[00:00] <Jim_Morrison> night guys
[00:00] <praWned_> nn
[00:00] <derdui_> how can i mount a printerfilter?
[00:00] <derdui_> in cups
[00:00] <Jucato> jacob: nothing shows up when you go to Help -> Amarok Handbook?
[00:02] <mixed> if I went to isntall kde4 what is the package in synaptic that I'm supposed to install?
[00:02] <praWned_> kde4-core
[00:02] <praWned_> iirc
[00:02] <derdui_> i wouldnt do that....
[00:03] <praWned_> bad?
[00:03] <praWned_> that's what i did...
[00:03] <derdui_> like i have heard, it is not fit enough for general using
[00:03] <praWned_> yeah. i found it very slow
[00:04] <dick-richardson> I have no sound in flash after installing oss
[00:04] <praWned_> generally dissapointed with the menu bar. much prefer kde 3's
[00:04] <mixed> prawned, all I see is kde4base and synpatic tells me it's fot development only
[00:04] <praWned_> what version of kubuntu are you running
[00:04] <dick-richardson> me? gutsy
[00:04] <praWned_> hm
[00:05] <praWned_> works for me. but i downloaded the iso and reinstalled yesterday so...
[00:05] <praWned_> you're missing some repos
[00:05] <mixed> praWned, im using gutsy gibbon
[00:06] <praWned_> have a look to see if you can find out the repos for it
[00:06] <praWned_> should be on kde site :)
[00:06] <derdui_> there are a cupple of kde4 pakages in synaptics.....
[00:06] <praWned_> hang on
[00:08] <praWned_> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php
[00:09] <mixed> praWned, thanks!!!!
[00:13] <praWned_> :)
[00:13] <praWned_> np
[00:13] <praWned_> hope it runs nicer for you than me
[00:14] <mixed> praWned, why is it that kde4-core doesnt show up in synaptic?? :-(
[00:14] <praWned_> didn't really like it much. some cool bits. but i generally prefer my kde 3.5 with compiz-fusion. its running so sweet :)
[00:14] <dick-richardson> any ideas on no sound in flash, but everything else works?
[00:14] <praWned_> you have added the repos yes?
[00:14] <mixed> malforrmed line in repo
[00:15] <praWned_> is that what it says when u try add it?
[00:15] <mixed> how do I add this to the repo: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy"
[00:15] <mixed> praWned, no, i tried to get a new list in synaptic
[00:16] <praWned_> open synaptic. go Settings > Repositories : Click New
[00:17] <praWned_> in the url box put : http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu
[00:17] <BluesKaj> mixed, copy and paste it to your sources list , save , then do a sudo apt-get update.
[00:17] <praWned_> or do it like tht. i think he is solely using gui tho
[00:17] <praWned_> in distribution box: gutsy
[00:17] <zPliskiN> hey is there a way to remove passwords for a user.
[00:17] <praWned_> section(s): main
[00:17] <zPliskiN> so the user doesnt need a password to login
[00:18] <BluesKaj> mixed, alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:18] <praWned_> click ok. then hit the reload button
[00:18] <mixed> Blueskaj, ok then what should I type?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> zPliskiN,  you can set kdm to autologin a user,
[00:18] <BluesKaj> what you posted above
[00:19] <zPliskiN> how do you do that ?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> and there may bee a setting in the kdm config file to allow several users to login with no password
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Check the kdm config tool.
[00:19] <zPliskiN> alright
[00:19] <mixed> BluesKaj, I added this line and it makes synaptic cry: "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy"
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> not all gdm./kdm options have 'settings' in the gdm/kdm config tools. :) some times ya just gotta edit the  configs.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> But autologin - is in the gui config tools i recall
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !find kdm,
[00:20] <ubotu> No packages matching 'kdm,' could be found
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !find kdm
[00:20] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> mixed: you forgot the rest of the line
[00:20] <BluesKaj> mixed , did you see my posat about, alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:21] <BluesKaj> err post
[00:21] <mixed> BluesKaj, yes
[00:21] <praWned_> ur missing the "main" part on that line
[00:22] <mixed> BluesKaj, problem is I dont know what else goes after that
[00:23] <mixed> BluesKaj, I think i have "main" mising at the end  :-( im still a kubuntu noob
[00:23] <praWned_> that's whats missing
[00:23] <praWned_> mixed: do you have your sources.list file open?
[00:25] <mixed> praWned, no, I already fixed it and did the update
[00:25]  * Daisuke_Ido gives mixed a thumbs up
[00:26] <mixed> BluesKaj, now I can see kde4-core as an option!  Im going to install this puppy :-)
[00:26] <praWned_> mixed: yay :) hope it works better for you than I
[00:26] <mixed> Daisuke_Ido, thank you
[00:27] <mixed> praWned, I already tried KDE4 and I hated it!  But I hate more this updated version of KDE and using gnome is not an option
[00:27] <BluesKaj> mixed , heh I wish you luck ...good to see you're resourceful  :0
[00:28] <Daisuke_Ido> well you also have the option of xfce or fluxbox (if you're REALLY minimalistic)
[00:28] <mixed> Daisuke_ido, xfce is too boring, specially since I have a fast processor
[00:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[00:29] <praWned_> brb
[00:29] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, tried out enlightenment?
[00:29] <Daisuke_Ido> especially DR17
[00:31] <mixed> nope,  dont have time for that, id rather stick to KDE
[00:31] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough
[00:32] <Daisuke_Ido> just thought i'd point out a few alternatives
[00:32] <mixed> ok I just finished installing KDE4, lets take it for a test spin!  BRB
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> I wonder how well Enlight. works as a kwin replacement,
[00:32] <Daisuke_Ido> probably not too well
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> I notifced that when i installed openbox - it added a kde-openbox and a gnome-openbox session to KDM.
[00:33] <Exilant> anyone has an encrypted home that gets mounted at kdm login?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Normally home would get mounted at boot time. if its onitsd own partition/filesystem
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> a user could use fuse i guess and have their own encrypted directory/folder.
[00:34] <majestic> yeah...you should encrypt the entire disk...not only home
[00:35] <Exilant> it now gets decrypted right at the start of the boot process
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> kdm and gdm can read files from the users /home/USERNAME dir.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> so having it get mounted/uncrypted after the user actually logs in may be a little  tough.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> what if the user just 'ssh' in?
[00:36] <Exilant> majestic: i know, but i realized too late that for example the locate/updatedb is bad
[00:37] <Exilant> well, it's my laptop, so it's really a single-user box
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> its really NOT a 'single user' :)  since the system needs to remain flexiable where it can handle other users also.
[00:39] <Dr_Willis>  it just only has one user. Heh.
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> You could rewrite the various kdm session scripts to do whatever you wanted i guess.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> it all depends on how paranoid you want to be, and how much work you want to do.
[00:42] <Exilant> don't want to do much work
[00:42] <Exilant> :)
[00:43] <Exilant> yes, a kdm script would probably be the right thing
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> a whole lot of work for very little gain also I think.
[00:44] <Exilant> I'm dreaming of a masked system, one encrypted home, one fake home, and depending on the password one gets mounted
[00:45] <Exilant> dunno if that would fool the people at the customs
[00:46] <mixed> OK KDE4 works on my distro, anyone knows how to change the menu 3.5 style??
[00:47] <Exilant> mixed: afaik not easily possible
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> sure it is
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> plasma
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> meh
[01:02] <intercek> en español
[01:02] <intercek> cnales
[01:02] <stdin> !es
[01:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> if i remember right, there are two different menu widgets
[01:03] <matt__> i am wanting to convert a mp3 file to a m4a file, how can i do this?
[01:05] <stdin> try soundkonverter
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> note: this is generally not a good idea
[01:05] <matt__> stdin: i've actually been using it, but it "fails" on certain files.
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> you *will* lose quality
[01:06] <matt__> Daisuke_Ido: talking to me/uss?
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you converting for?  ipod?
[01:06] <matt__> the reason i am doing this: mp3 "audiobook" needs to be "m4b" (m4a renamed to m4b).
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't get it, but okay :)
[01:07] <matt__> its going to be 32 kbps, quality will be fine for audiobook...
[01:07] <matt__> Daisuke_Ido: all i need to do is convert it to a m4a file, (i believe this is the same as mp4, but not sure).
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, yeah, you're alright there...  not sure why soundkonvertor won't do it
[01:07] <jose> hi can some body give me the place in spanish?
[01:07] <matt__> Daisuke_Ido: it does some of the mp3's, but not all. it "hangs" at 100%, and never actually saves the files.
[01:08] <stdin> you can always try using ffmpeg/mencoder manually, but it's not for the faint hearted
[01:08] <stdin> !es | jose
[01:08] <matt__> stdin: been thinking of it.
[01:08] <ubotu> jose: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:08] <jose> thanks
[01:09] <tkesler> has any one recently installed kubuntu7.10 image and tried to run the upgrades and lose the whole system and have to re-install?
[01:09] <george__> yeap mate
[01:09] <george__> that hapened to me
[01:09] <matt__> Daisuke_Ido: stdin could the fact that I am "combining" about 8 mp3's to one using cat > file possibly be the reason it is failing?
[01:10] <stdin> I'd think so, I don't think you can just "cat" several mp3's together
[01:10] <george__> tkesler: yes that happened to me twice now
[01:10] <tkesler> i know
[01:10] <stdin> the 1st would play but the others would probably fail
[01:10] <george__> is there a solution around this?
[01:10] <matt__> stdin: it's worked for many of them that i am doing, surprisingly enough.
[01:10] <george__> i am kind of new to linux
[01:11] <tkesler> i am too
[01:11] <stdin> matt__: you could convert them all to raw (not wav) then cat them all together and encode the result I guess
[01:11] <george__> nice :P
[01:11] <george__> i am trying to do this again through konsole this time
[01:11] <matt__> stdin: http://www.mehtanirav.com/2007/07/28/tip-combining-multiple-mp3-files-into-one/
[01:11] <george__> just to see where it goes
[01:12] <compilerwriter> !mount | compilerwriter
[01:12] <derdui_> does anybody know about eyeOS? whats that*lool*
[01:13] <stdin> matt__: that would depend on the robustness of the player/decoder, each mp3 has a header in it, some players/decoders will ignore them and some will error out
[01:14] <matt__> stdin: but what is weird, is i've been catting many mp3s, and soundkonver has done more than half, i'd say, but there are a few it doesn't do. i don't think it has anything to do with bitrate, size, or length either.
[01:14] <tkesler> george_--> did it give you an error "commiting changes"?
[01:14] <stdin> matt__: it could do, I'm no expert on the mp3 format so I can't say for sure either way
[01:15] <george__> hm... i wouldn't know.. coz i left the pc on during the night to do this update and in the morning
[01:15] <stdin> I'd still go for the converting to raw first
[01:15] <george__> it had stuck at some point
[01:15] <matt__> stdin: me neither. but if i first converted to a wav, do you think that may make it work?
[01:15] <stdin> matt__: not wav, but raw (wav has a small header too)
[01:15] <george__> so i had to close the updater and that was it
[01:15] <tkesler> i rebooted and it said file not found
[01:16] <matt__> stdin: i don't understand what you mean by headers, but how would i do the raw conversoin?
[01:16] <tkesler> I don't know if it was in the boot loader or OS
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe not bitrate, size, or length, but sampling rate?
[01:17] <george__> we don't have the same problem then mate, the first time i tried to update it stuck on running local scripts
[01:17] <matt__> Daisuke_Ido: that is where i know nothing of :(
[01:17] <stdin> matt__: something like this "mpg123 -s *.mp3 > bigfile", raw is the same "format" as wav but it just doesn't have a header saying "Hi, I'm a wav file"
[01:17] <tkesler> dang:(
[01:18] <stdin> !nickspam > c_taylor
[01:18] <george__> so i am trying konsole now, so if any error appears i can track it down..
[01:19] <matt__> stdin: not sure i understand, what does mpg123, that the command?
[01:19] <tkesler> what's the apt cmd for update is it 'apt-get update'?
[01:19] <eeeeek> for a fresh install, using manual install. 15gb primary partition mounted as /, 500 mb logical mounted as /boot,200 gb logical mounted as /home, 1 gb primary mounted as swap. is this all ok ?
[01:19] <LjL> tkesler: yes, but that only downloads the *list* of new packages
[01:19] <LjL> tkesler: if you actually want to upgrade your system, that's apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <stdin> matt__: mpg123 is a command like mp3 player/decoder, the -s option tells it to send the output to stdout (the console) instead of the audio device, then "> bigfile" tells the shell to send the output to the file "bigfile"
[01:20] <george__> that's what i am now doing apt-get dist upgrade
[01:20] <tkesler> is there a new dist??   I thought 7.10 was the latest
[01:20] <matt__> stdin: alright, after trying this command, it keeps complaining of a lot of illegal mpeg headers...
[01:20] <matt__> stdin: so this is probably caused from the mp3 tags after each other, right?
[01:21] <george__> i have 7.10 Kubuntu but after the innitial boot it says that a new dist is availabl
[01:21] <matt__> stdin: makes since now, this particular ebook was orignally a lot of small 2mb files...
[01:21] <matt__> stdin: so esentially, i suppose the large file .mp3 contains 200 headers or so.
[01:22] <stdin> matt__: makes sense
[01:22] <matt__> stdin: but still makes me wonder why some of the others were working even though they had 2-8 "headers".
[01:22] <matt__> Note: Illegal Audio-MPEG-Header 0x43443454 at offset 0x72e89b5.
[01:22] <matt__> Note: Trying to resync...
[01:22] <matt__> Note: Skipped 236 bytes in input.
[01:22] <matt__> Note: Illegal Audio-MPEG-Header 0x00004344 at offset 0x74da931.
[01:22] <matt__> Note: Trying to resync...
[01:22] <matt__> stdin: so what is it doing with the headers?
[01:23] <stdin> probably trying to ignore them and carry on
[01:23] <matt__> stdin: think it'll work?
[01:24] <stdin> matt__: maybe, you'll have to play it to find out
[01:24] <matt__> stdin: so this file, it has no extension or header, but it IS a wav file, correct?
[01:28] <tkesler> i'm trying the 'dist-upgrade' option...I hope it doesn't crash this time
[01:28] <tkesler> -_-
[01:29] <tkesler> ^_-
[01:31] <stdin> matt__: yeah
[01:34] <stdin> stupid wifi...
[01:35] <eeeeek> root = primary partion
[01:35] <eeeeek> /boot = logical partition
[01:35] <eeeeek> /home = logical partion
[01:35] <eeeeek> swap = primary
[01:35] <eeeeek> is this correct ?
[01:36] <kgoetz> eeeeek:
[01:36] <kgoetz> no
[01:37] <kgoetz> eeeeek: boot=primary, root=primary ideally, otheres can be logical
[01:37] <kgoetz> or make all 4 primary and do the job properly
[01:37] <kgoetz> afk
[01:37] <stdin> it doesn't really matter, grub doesn't care
[01:39] <eeeeek> I have a ntfs partition as primary so no more then 4 primary partitions
[01:40] <Arwen> help - how do I reverse a patch (applied using GNU patch of course)?
[01:41] <eeeeek> I'll give this a go
[01:41] <eeeeek> /boot = primary
[01:42] <eeeeek> and the rest logical
[01:44] <eeeeek> or better yet, does anyone know of a good howto on manual partitions, i have read a couple but they seem to have conflicting views
[01:44] <compilerwriter> Does anyone know if there is a way to get kmail to simply delete an email without first sending to the trash can to be deleted later the second time in a selective fashion?
[01:45] <stdin> Arwen: patch -R < patch
[01:46] <Arwen> stdin, can I still use that if the patch I want to reverse failed to apply?
[01:48] <stdin> Arwen: if it failed to apply then the original file would be left alone, you'd probably see .orig and .reg files too
[01:48] <Arwen> stdin, what if only some hunks of the patch failed?
[01:49] <stdin> it should still do that
[01:49] <Arwen> hmm
[01:59] <Exilant> *sigh* whoever had the stupid idea to use xml for config files
[01:59] <mixed> how do I enable compiz???
[02:00] <kgoetz> Exilant: it seems to be a spreading idea
[02:00] <stdin> !compiz | mixed
[02:00] <ubotu> mixed: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:01] <mixed> stdin, thank you
[02:01] <david_> HELP! i have an extra sound card that ubuntu didnt install by itself....its a creative live board and im not sure how to install it......HELP!
[02:02] <Exilant> kgoetz: well, i really don't know. In principle, all those different config formats are bad, but they just are a lot more read- and editable by humans (and machines)
[02:06] <kgoetz> david_: perhaps give more detail and less panic.
[02:06] <kgoetz> Exilant: i dont think different forms are particularly bad. its only a problem when the format isnt obvious (in which case the format is broken)
[02:08] <oren> anyone know why i get sound with mp3 but not video?
[02:10] <oren> anyone know why i get sound with mp3 but not video?
[02:10] <Exilant> oren: maybe the codecs aren't there?
[02:11] <david_> kgoetz, im not sure what package i have to install for it....it says  Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 when i do lspci
[02:11] <oren> it was working but then i tried something to turn on spdif and now no good, mp3 is good
[02:12] <Exilant> are you using the same program for both?
[02:14] <kgoetz> david_: are you sure it didnt install it, or has it not configured it?
[02:14] <kgoetz> david_: also, are you running *ubuntu* or *kubuntu*?
[02:14] <david_> ubuntu..
[02:16] <kgoetz> dav	then ask #ubuntu
[02:17] <kub_> I BIG GREETINGS FROM UKRAINE
[02:18] <Agent_bob> small howdy from over here.
[02:20] <Frederick> folks anyone had succes running netbeans in AMD64?
[02:30] <Frederick> folks how can I have libmawt installed on my machine?
[02:33] <oren> anyone know why i get sound with mp3 but not video?
[02:33] <oren> it was working but then i tried something to turn on spdif and now no good, mp3 is good
[02:33] <Agent_bob> !info libmawt
[02:33] <ubotu> Package libmawt does not exist in gutsy
[02:33] <Agent_bob> !find libmawt
[02:33] <ubotu> No packages matching 'libmawt' could be found
[02:34] <Agent_bob> Frederick get the source code and build it.
[02:34] <clay_> test
[02:34] <Agent_bob> clay_
[02:34] <clay_> thanks bob.
[02:34] <Agent_bob> np
[02:35] <xtknight> how do i set the clock from 24-HOUR mode to 12-HOUR mode
[02:35] <Frederick> Agent_bob: too much work to install netbeans :p
[02:36] <clay_> netbeans=easy.
[02:36] <Agent_bob> Frederick i agree.
[02:36] <Frederick> clay_: ubuntu is with the packages messed up somehow netbeans is broken on amd64
[02:36] <Agent_bob> xtknight languages section of the system settings
[02:36] <Frederick> I was trying some work arounds
[02:37] <clay_> ok. gotcha.
[02:37] <xtknight> Agent_bob, entering hh:mm:ss instead of HH:MM:SS doesn't work
[02:37] <Frederick> I will do the ultimate work around and use vista :p
[02:38] <xtknight> Agent_bob, hh:mm:ss is not interpreted in the example, it shows as just "hh:mm:ss".  yet "HH:MM:SS" is replaced properly with the 24-hour format.
[02:38] <Agent_bob> xtknight oh ?   you applied the change ?
[02:38] <xtknight> Agent_bob, ya i tried
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> xtknight- right-click the clock and go to Date & Time Format
[02:38] <Agent_bob> but isn't there supposed to be a P in there xtknight ?
[02:38] <xtknight> entering HH shows 22. which is correct.  the example is updated.  if I type "hh:mm:ss", i see exactly "hh:mm:ss" in the example
[02:38] <xtknight> oh, i dont know, is here?
[02:39] <xtknight> Dragnslcr, yup this is where i am
[02:40] <xtknight> something seems awfully fishy.  i have a US locale yet i have A4, metric, and "Monday" as start of week
[02:41]  * Agent_bob stopped using kde when they changed the defaults to display the first day of the week as monday.
[02:41] <xtknight> i dunno im just giving kde a test run
[02:41]  * kgoetz wonders what day you start on
[02:41] <xtknight> sunday
[02:41] <Agent_bob> sunday
[02:42] <xtknight> oh, "pH:MM:SS AMPM" is proper.
[02:42] <xtknight> odd
[02:42] <Agent_bob> what has always been the first day of the week
[02:42] <xtknight> ok it works, i think
[02:42] <kgoetz> right....
[02:42] <xtknight> why is A4 the default for US English?
[02:42] <xtknight> when there's a US Letter option
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[02:42] <clay_> monday is first day of week because God rested on the 7th, the sabboth.
[02:43] <Agent_bob> and why is metric default for US ?
[02:43] <xtknight> ya lol
[02:43] <kgoetz> might be a bug
[02:43] <xtknight> i was thinking it had something to do with me installing kubuntu-desktop after regular Ubuntu
[02:44] <xtknight> instead of Kubuntu
[02:44] <xtknight> but if everyone's the same i'll report it
[02:45]  * kgoetz wishes he could get a4 to be his default without pain
[02:46] <clay_> i juste installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, too.  worked fine after I fixed the font rendering.
[02:46] <Frederick> anyone managed to run netbeans 6 in AMD64? I have it broken with the following bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/192761
[02:48] <clay_> Fred. try running VM with graphics switches off (command line switches)??
[02:48] <xtknight> im trying kde cuz gnome doesn't allow multiple-desktop backgrounds and they havent fixed the file->save dialog bugs (filename retained thru navigation)
[02:48] <xtknight> seems more solid i dunno
[02:48] <Frederick> clay_: cant, I need to to netbeans
[02:49] <Yuji_> anyone reccomend a gnome version of kontact?  or should I Just grab kontact
[02:49] <Agent_bob> Yuji_ evolution ?
[02:49] <ObsidianX> hey folks, what files do kbluetooth need full control over for it to work properly?
[02:50] <Yuji_> Agent_bob I thought it was just email -- I'll give it a try!
[02:50] <Agent_bob> idk
[02:51] <clay_> fred: it 'seems' like there may be a way to get the classpath for the actual netbeans app altered, but not sure how.
[02:51] <clay_> I do it with Eclipse all the time. you can start eclipse by issuing the VM command.
[02:52] <Frederick> clay_: which command would it be?
[02:52] <Agent_bob> i installed server-ubuntu + gnome + kde + fluxbox + blackbox + twm + xfce4 + icewm + windowmaker + ....  i can't even remember what all is on that system...
[02:52] <clay_> sorry Fred, that was cryptic.  I just meant launch eclipse with java.exe. -- from batch file (windows)
[02:52] <Agent_bob> and i still only use the console !
[02:53] <clay_> maybe google: "modify netbeans classpath".
[02:53] <yuri_> Hello ppl!
[02:54] <Frederick> clay_: to do it I need netbeans to run :p
[02:54] <yuri_> hey some one can give me a hand?, i need to config the keyboard :S
[02:54] <clay_> I'm saying modify the startup "OF" netbeans.  I know what you're saying.
[02:54] <clay_> NetBeans IS a java app, I believe.
[02:54] <storbeck> I believe you can configure the keyboard by using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <yuri_> k
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> what's with installing any kde4 apps with hardy? can't install anything because of deps on v3.97 of kde.
[02:58] <clay_> Fred: http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqStartupParameters
[02:58] <clay_> bye Fred.  It's been real nice.
[02:58] <Agent_bob> storbeck i could be wrong. but i doubt that that is what he was looking for.   and  1. it will have to be done as root  2. the changes only affect newly started xserver   3. kde may override those changes.
[02:59] <storbeck> Well yes, I figured he would use sudo. ctrl + alt + bksp will restart the server, and KDE won't override the changes.
[02:59] <Agent_bob> it can.
[02:59] <storbeck> How would KDE override it?
[03:00] <storbeck> That's generally the whole point in the xserver-xorg, but okay.
[03:04] <aaron__> are there any musicians here?
[03:05] <ctw> Hi! Is this the right channel to ask about issues with the current kubuntu hardy alpha version?
[03:05] <compilerwriter> !compiz
[03:05] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:06] <storbeck> ctw, if it's hardy specific #ubuntu+1
[03:06] <ctw> storbeck: thanks!
[03:06] <storbeck> np
[03:07] <ctw> storbeck: I was looking for kubuntu+1, but that didn't exist ... should have known to look for ubuntu+1 :)
[03:07] <storbeck> :)
[03:08] <fuhreal> Anyone know how to get eTerm in the package list ?
[03:09] <eddy> hi... someone know about a c++ develop channel
[03:09] <storbeck> fuhreal, It is, sudo apt-get install Eterm
[03:09] <Agent_bob> !info eterm
[03:09] <ubotu> eterm (source: eterm): Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.0debian1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[03:10] <fuhreal> storbeck:  thats it ?
[03:10] <storbeck> Yes, Eterm (note the capital E)
[03:10] <Agent_bob> !info Eterm
[03:10] <fuhreal> storbeck: wow, i thought maybe i had to change sources since its not in apt-get list
[03:10] <ubotu> eterm (source: eterm): Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.0debian1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[03:10] <kcin> how do you turn off the sounds when you maximize windows and such?
[03:11] <Agent_bob> ubotu doesn't recognize caps.
[03:11] <storbeck> Nope, it should be in the default repos
[03:11] <fuhreal> Yes lloks like no capitol E just eterm
[03:12] <fuhreal> i guess same thing for nmap ?
[03:12] <storbeck> Hm, weird.
[03:12] <storbeck> Yes nmap is in the repos too
[03:12] <fuhreal> sweet
[03:12] <fuhreal> i'm liking ubuntu
[03:12] <fuhreal> Good if you don't have alot of time to mess around finding deps
[03:12] <fuhreal> and fixing broken code lol
[03:12] <storbeck> Heh yeah
[03:13] <aaron__> ubuntu is really cool
[03:13] <storbeck> It's ok :P
[03:13] <fuhreal> But is seems like usiing that apt-get install method doesn't give me a menu option to eterm now ...
[03:13] <Agent_bob> fuhreal if you are not using adept or synaptic    you can still search for avalable packages with apt      apt-cache search any_string_here
[03:13] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: cool ....
[03:14] <aaron__> I am just learning to code and I like this ubuntu
[03:14] <fuhreal> now how do i get it to the menu without adding it manually ? lol
[03:14] <storbeck> Usually they do add themselves
[03:15] <Agent_bob> fuhreal may need the debian menu     package name is "menu"     i'm not sure.
[03:15] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: is that something to regen the menus ?
[03:15] <Agent_bob> some things only show up in the debian menu
[03:15] <Agent_bob> fuhreal no it's an extention of your kmenu
[03:16] <Agent_bob> adds a whole new section
[03:16]  * dthacker waves
[03:17]  * Agent_bob personally doesn't know why "menu" is not installed by default.
[03:17] <Agent_bob> dt ^
[03:18] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: oddly menu is already the newest version
[03:18] <fuhreal> is what i get when trying to install menu
[03:18] <Agent_bob> but iirc   you can right click "kmenu" and configure it to show all programs...
[03:19] <Agent_bob> fuhreal hmmmm    what version of kubuntu ?
[03:19] <fuhreal> Not sure .... how can I tell ?
[03:19] <fuhreal> k
[03:19] <fuhreal> kernel v 2.6.22-14
[03:19] <Agent_bob> terminal   lsb-release
[03:19] <Agent_bob> terminal   lsb-release -a
[03:20] <fuhreal> bash: lsb-release: command not found
[03:20] <storbeck> lsb_release -a
[03:20] <Agent_bob> yeah underscore.
[03:20] <fuhreal> ahh .... ok 7.1 gutsy
[03:21] <Agent_bob> fuhreal well try configuring kmenu   to show all
[03:22]  * Agent_bob give these answers based on two year old knowledge stored in volitile ram...
[03:23] <Agent_bob> so there may be cliches in the instructions from time to time.
[03:23] <chiefwigms> hey guys - anyway to get kubuntu to have desktop spanning (have windows between desktops) like ubuntu?
[03:24] <fuhreal> if i try to edit the menu .. debian is in the list to edit, but doesn't show up in the menu ... odd
[03:24] <storbeck> !compiz | chiefwigms
[03:24] <ubotu> chiefwigms: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:25] <Agent_bob> !dualhead
[03:25] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:26] <fuhreal> !kmenu
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <chiefwigms> nice
[03:28] <chiefwigms> thanks storbeck !
[03:29] <Agent_bob> i have one console that ^L doesn't clear...
[03:29] <Agent_bob> and five that it does.
[03:30] <fuhreal> Anyone know what protocol amarok needs to stream mp3's from a windows box via smb ?
[03:30] <Agent_bob> err actually 4 that it does.  only 5 active consoles atm
[03:33] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2ef569da
[03:34] <Agent_bob> tty3 ^L doesn't clear.    odd.
[03:40] <ambroise> hello
[03:40] <Agent_bob> shalom
[03:48] <cmorgan> arg, just did a dist-upgrade on hardy and i'm seeing all kinds of not cool malloc assertion botched errors when trying to log in or chroot into that partition
[03:49] <cmorgan> any ideas what might be up or how to fix it?
[03:50] <cmorgan> it looks like bash isn't in sync with libc
[03:51] <Agent_bob> !hardy
[03:51] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:52] <cmorgan> Agent_bob: thanks man
[03:52] <Agent_bob> cmorgan welcome.
[03:52] <sub_> hi all
[03:53] <Agent_bob> sub_
[03:53] <sub_> can anyone tell me how to put KDE on my M/c and remove genome completely
[03:53] <Agent_bob> !purekde
[03:53] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[03:55] <sub_> thanks but this will let some Gnome packages to be there .. can i completely  switch over
[03:56] <Agent_bob> «<< >>»
[03:56] <Agent_bob> you can.  are you sure you want to ?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get --purge -y remove $Q ;done ;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    <<<< that can be ran as root, it's slow but will remove all non-essential packages then reinstall all kubuntu packages.     don't run it if you don't understand it.
[04:02] <Agent_bob> also be advised that if you have broken packages   that may fail and leave you needing to fix dpkg before you can do anything if so use#   apt-get install -f       and/or    dpkg --configure -a
[04:04] <Agent_bob> and don't blame the ubuntu team for your broken system   :)
[04:04] <Agent_bob> or actually do   but not in here.    :)))
[04:05]  * Agent_bob goes to hide.
[04:07]  * Agent_bob hides his hide o.O
[04:09]  * Agent_bob hides his hide before he gets hided !       "dictionary!"
[04:24] <sandro_> hi everyone
[04:24] <sandro_> im having trouble with the speaker on my laptopp
[04:24] <sandro_> if i plug in headphones, sound still goes through the speakers as well
[04:25] <sandro_> is anyone here??
[04:34] <Doctor_Nick> what's the equivalent of the hosts file on windows in ubuntu?
[04:34] <Doctor_Nick> is it /etc/hosts?
[04:35] <kgoetz> if i understand your question correctly yes
[04:36] <Doctor_Nick> i want to redirect certain requests for domains to another ip
[04:36] <kgoetz>  /etc/hosts
[04:52] <ForgeAus> only 5 packages left too
[05:03]  * maduser sigh
[05:03] <maduser> until?
[05:07] <sandro_>  im having trouble with the speaker on my laptop
[05:07] <sandro_>  if i plug in headphones, sound still goes through the speakers as well
[05:09] <asobi> anyone familiar with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/120811 ?
[05:15] <dueperdue> hi
[05:15] <dueperdue> I have install a pachet whit adept menager, for using my KDE efects
[05:16] <dueperdue> but now I wont do disinstall hem
[05:16] <dueperdue> and i don't rimember hes name....
[05:16] <dueperdue> some help?
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !it
[05:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:19] <sandro_> hi can anyone help me w/ my speakers
[05:20] <sandro_> id appreciate any assistance
[05:20] <dueperdue> hi
[05:20] <dueperdue> [06:15] <dueperdue> I have install a pachet whit adept menager, for using my KDE efects
[05:20] <dueperdue> [06:16] <dueperdue> but now I wont do disinstall hem
[05:20] <dueperdue> [06:16] <dueperdue> and i don't rimember hes name....
[05:20] <dueperdue> [06:16] <dueperdue> some help?
[05:40] <ctw> hi!
[05:41] <ctw> this is a (hopefully) simple question: if I'm booted with a live CD, how can I find out which dev my HD is?
[05:41] <ctw> there are a lot of hdXX and sdXX devices
[05:41] <ctw> but I don't know which one my HD is
[05:43] <alastaire> will i get a head ache trying to properly install compiz fusion on kubuntu with ATI drivers?
[05:56] <MDCore> ctw: I'm not 100% sure but try checking /media . are the drives mounted there?
[06:13] <ctw> MDCore: I booted with damn small linux and it didn't mount the drives
[06:13] <ctw> MDCore: /media doesn't even exist
[06:13] <MDCore> ctw: that's coz it's DSL. This is #kubuntu??
[06:13] <ctw> MDCore: I'm actually booting from a USB stick ... I'm posting here because I'm doing this to fix a Kubuntu installation
[06:13] <MDCore> ctw: ah. Well what happened to your kubuntu install?
[06:13] <ctw> MDCore: it was easier & faster to make a USB stick from DSL
[06:14] <ctw> MDCore: I'm running Hardy and the last update hosed the system
[06:14] <ctw> MDCore: that's what I get for living on the bleeding edge, I guess :(
[06:14] <MDCore> ctw: :(
[06:14] <kgoetz> ctw: do you know what kernel DSL uses?
[06:15] <MDCore> ctw: Well I'm still on gutsy so I'm afraid I can't help you. check out #ubuntu+1 and maybe #dsl (??)
[06:17] <qtc36> I cannot load the gcc cross compilers for ARM.  If I add the sources from emdebian, I get dependency conflicts on the gcc tools.  Is there a Ubuntu source for cross compilers?
[06:17] <alandd> I cannot load the gcc cross compilers for ARM.  If I add the sources from emdebian, I get dependency conflicts on the gcc tools.  Is there a Ubuntu source for cross compilers?
[06:18]  * alandd oops, double message.
[06:18] <kgoetz> alandd: you could recompile all the emdebian tools i guess.
[06:20] <alandd> kgoetz: Yea...
[06:20]  * alandd groans only because he wants a quick apt-get fix
[06:21] <kgoetz> alandd: are you sure the tools you need arnt in ubuntus universe?
[06:22] <ctw> MDCore: thanks!
[06:23] <MDCore> ctw: no problem... not trying to chase you away btw just directing traffic ;)
[06:25] <yuri_> Hello!! and good night for everyone!
[06:25] <yuri_> Yawnnn! a long day :S
[06:26] <yuri_> hey some one know about some good online rpg game?
[06:26] <ctw> MDCore: of course! I didn't even think to look for a DSL channel because I consider myself a Kubuntu user ... :)
[06:26] <MDCore> ctw: :)
[06:27] <ctw> MDCore: unfortunately the DSL channel is damn small in terms of users :)
[06:28] <kgoetz> ctw: what kernel version is dsl?
[06:28] <ctw> kgoetz: 2.4
[06:28] <kgoetz> ew.
[06:28] <kgoetz> ctw: run 'fdisk -l', which will list your partitions
[06:29] <ctw> kgoetz: I only got it b/c it was fast to download and put on usb
[06:29] <ctw> kgoetz: thanks
[06:30] <kgoetz> ctw: you'll probably have 2 or 3 partitions. 1 is root, 2 is (probably) swap
[06:31] <alandd> kgoetz: No.  I'll go looking some more.
[06:31] <ctw> kgoetz: yeah, I also made a separate /home partition
[06:33] <kgoetz> ctw: cool. well the one your after is root, and you probably just need to mount it on /mnt
[06:36] <ctw> kgoetz: arghh fdisk -l only lists the USB stick from which I booted
[06:36] <ctw> :(
[06:37] <kgoetz> ctw: hm. try `fdisk -l /dev/hda`
[06:37] <yuri_> hello!, im with some problem, can some one tell me how i can make my webcam work on Kubuntu?
[06:39] <yuri_> ?
[06:39] <basy> hi, im looking for good audio cration application for kubuntu, where can i found list?
[06:39] <yuri_> adept?
[06:39] <kgoetz> basy: look at audacity
[06:41] <basy> i need somethig profi with lot of plugins
[06:41] <yuri_> how i can install my cam to kubuntus?
[06:42] <ctw> kgoetz: no dice ... I guess jfs is just not supported by dsl :
[06:42] <kgoetz> ctw: thats probably a valid asumption
[06:42] <kgoetz> as its a 2.4 kernel
[06:45] <ctw> kgoetz: I'll give slax a try ...
[06:45] <vikku_> can some one help me wlak through build process after downloadig a tar
[06:46] <kgoetz> ctw: or get a kubuntu cd :P
[06:47] <vikku_> #ubuntu
[06:48] <ctw> kgoetz: that's the next step when I'm in my office with a faster internet connection :)
[06:53] <ctw> kgoetz: sweet, slax does the trick ... it's really nice (not quite ubuntu, but great for USB)
[06:53] <kgoetz> ctw: cool
[06:58] <gothman> Çäðàâñòâóéòå. ìîæåòå ïîìî÷ü ñ íàñòðîéêîé ïðèíòåðà?
[08:32] <eeli> hey guys. How can I burn a dvd when I am on live cd? It does not allow me to remove the live disc, so I could put in empty dvd
[08:35] <eeli> anyone?
[08:36] <llutz> eeli: you can't i guess, because ubuntu-live-CDs don't have a "toram" or "fromhd" option
[08:39] <eeli> damn :/
[08:39] <eeli> thanks anyway
[08:40] <twosouls82> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[08:42] <llutz> twosouls82: too late and too fiddly. Other live-cd just need a parameter like "toram" and that's it (if RAM is big enough) or at least have a "fromiso" option
[08:43] <twosouls82> they had that too if I am right, I recall I did it once
[08:44] <twosouls82> llutz: depending on your needs (and you materials) you could install ubbie on a usbdisk and use that as a livecd so you have a spare cdrom drive
[08:45] <llutz> twosouls82: you're right, but it wasn't me missing that feature :)
[08:45] <twosouls82> so right.
[08:46] <twosouls82> he's gone (good morning ts82)
[08:49] <erik__> Hey.. I'm having a problem where KDE4 goes black when I log on. It happened before, but started working again after an update. Now it has happened again, and I'm back in KDE3 to ask this question. Has anyone experienced this problem? I use a Dell and have run 'envy' to get things going
[08:49] <Jucato> erik__: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[08:50] <erik__> Jucato: okay, thx
[09:23] <emilsedgh> any idea why i cant connect using my modem?kppp's output is: Couldn't find interface ppp0: No such device
[09:29] <llutz> emilsedgh: ppp0 as modem-device?
[09:30] <emilsedgh> llutz: no, modem device is /dev/modem
[09:30] <emilsedgh> it dials
[09:30] <emilsedgh> when tries to authenticate, the 'loggin' section, it just stops
[09:30] <emilsedgh> and the funny part is that from 50 tries of connection, it works once
[09:30] <emilsedgh> i mean the problem is random
[09:30] <llutz> emilsedgh: ouch
[09:31] <Jucato> !dialup
[09:31] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[09:31] <llutz> emilsedgh: have you tried wvdial to dtermine if it is a kppp or cennection-problem?
[09:31] <llutz> co
[09:32] <emilsedgh> im searching widely through internet
[09:32] <emilsedgh> and its not for kppp i think
[09:49] <amerigo> hi buddy
[09:49] <amerigo> i need your help to try my webcam in Kubuntu
[09:50] <amerigo> with kopete
[09:50] <amerigo> i have just tried the webcam
[09:51] <amerigo> it works fine on kopete
[09:51] <amerigo> but i can't share immage with my contact
[09:52] <amerigo> someone can HELP ME!!!!
[09:52] <amerigo> ???
[09:54] <ere4si> !webcam
[09:54] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:58] <amerigo> ere4si: thank you for help... but i need a volounter to try my web
[09:59] <amerigo> !webcam
[09:59] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:59] <amerigo> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:59] <amerigo> I've understud
[10:00] <amerigo> underplaced
[10:01] <ere4si> amerigo, what are you trying to do?
[10:15] <amerigo> ere4si: Still Here?
[10:15] <ere4si> k
[10:15] <amerigo> I'd like to try my webcam with someoneelse
[10:15] <[ex]p|0s10n> привет пендосы!
[10:15] <amerigo> to see anoter face with kopete
[10:15] <Jucato> !ru | [ex]p|0s10n
[10:15] <ubotu> [ex]p|0s10n: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> amerigo, you should be able to run an app to see yourself
[10:16] <amerigo> yes
[10:16] <Jucato> amerigo: you might be able to find someone in #kopete to help you
[10:16] <ere4si> and I don't have a webcom - sorry amerigo
[10:16] <ere4si> *webcam
[10:17] <amerigo> thank you boys
[10:24] <ere4si> men to you pls amerigo hehe
[10:25] <bentob0x> I'm trying to find files that start with 200 like "2006_02_28 - birthday list.txt", how can I do this with grep?
[10:26] <llutz> bentob0x: why grep? use ls or find
[10:26] <ere4si> I would do   locate 200*
[10:27] <bentob0x> can you use regular expressions for ls or find?
[10:27] <ere4si> or   locate /home/me/200*
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x, find / -name "200*"
[10:30] <bentob0x> that works, thx guys
[10:30] <amerigo> !webcam
[10:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:30] <amerigo> !kopete
[10:30] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[10:30] <amerigo> !try kopete
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about try kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <amerigo> !kopetetest
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopetetest - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <amerigo> !kopete test
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <jussi01> !botabuse | amerigo
[10:31] <ubotu> amerigo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:31] <amerigo> ok
[10:31] <amerigo> sorry
[10:41] <amigo> Hi ppl! I have remote account. I can connect via ssh. Server allow sftp connection. I can see my home dir in konqueror (ssh:/). I can't mount sshfs.
[10:41] <amigo> I use sshfs user@server: ~/mount_point -p port
[10:42] <llutz> amigo: afaik you need to be member of group "fuse"
[10:42] <amigo> llutz: yes I'm member of group fuse
[10:43] <amigo> ls -l /dev/fuse tell me owner fuse group. it's right.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> amigo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103860&page=4 may help
[10:47] <ProbeDot> i need to connect to it via internet, i have 50 xp stations connected to a 2003 server using roaming profiles (desktop,my documents,registery,etc are stored on the server), the internet gateway is the centos server, so i have a local network with local ip's and the internet network with the internet ip,
[10:47] <ProbeDot>  the problem is that i need a laptop using a internet conection to connect to the local area network via internet, i need all windows networking features available, somehow, that laptop must endup connected to the lan with a lan ip, i need to connect a laptop in austria to a local area network in france
[10:47] <ProbeDot> so that the laptop access al network resources of the lan in france, i want the laptop to act as a workstation in the lan, both laptop and lan have internet access, lan has one public ip, laptop same
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot, VPN
[10:49] <ProbeDot> ActionParsnip i don't want to move the entire existing lan to vpn, that will take weeks
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot, you run a vpn on the centos box to allow remote access. The whole LAN will not be converted to VPN
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot, the VPN functionality will only be connectable from the WAN side
[10:50] <ProbeDot> ActionParsnip ic.
[10:50] <mika__> hi
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot, the VPN pc will then get an internal IP
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> hi mika__
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot_, thats how I do my job. I VPN to USA from UK and maintain servers
[10:51] <mika__> I installed KDE4 on gutsy ... I managed to login once ... but now it crashes each time I try to login
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> mika__, does it do it with any other accounts?
[10:52] <mika__> bummer ... the only reason I installed kubuntu was KDE4 .. hehe
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> mika__, its not fully implemented yet
[10:52] <mika__> Action .. oh ok ...
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> mika__, you are runing both kde3.5 and kde4
[10:52] <mika__> Action .. whan other accounts you're refering to ?
[10:52] <mika__> Action .. yes, I am on KDE 3.5 now
[10:52] <cpk1> !webmin
[10:52] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> mika__, if another username logs in to a kde4 session is it ok?
[10:53] <cpk1> !ebox
[10:53] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[10:53] <mika__> Action .. let me create one more user and try
[10:54] <jimat> !qmake
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot_, any better?
[10:55] <ProbeDot_> ActionParsnip sory. got disconnected
[10:55] <ProbeDot_> what were you saying
[10:56] <ProbeDot_> i never used vpn before. need guidance
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot_, did you create a new user and log in as it?
[10:56] <jussi01> !vpn
[10:56] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:56] <cpk1> my question is though, does ebox do shorewall config?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> oh sorry, im mixing you with mika__
[10:56] <mika__> Action .. I created another user and it worked again
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> mika__, ok so its fairly stable with the fresh user??
[10:57] <ProbeDot_> ActionParsnip i use centos
[10:57] <mika__> Action ... it doesnt crash imediately
[10:57] <mika__> Action .. let me go in KDE4 and come here from there
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> mika__, you got full updates??
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot_, I'd research into setting up a vpn then using the vpn factoid above
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ProbeDot_, its a big subject but very powerful
[11:00] <ProbeDot_> ActionParsnip thanks !
[11:01] <ProbeDot_> ActionParsnip pm?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> sure
[11:13] <hell_> hi there. is there anybody russian?
[11:15] <_linuxAS_> Hi, hola
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !ru | hell_
[11:23] <ubotu> hell_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hey _linuxAS_
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !hi | _linuxAS_
[11:24] <ubotu> _linuxAS_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:31] <rysiek|pl> !es | _linuxAS_
[11:31] <ubotu> _linuxAS_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:31] <rysiek|pl> _linuxAS_: thought you might wanna know ;)
[12:05] <amerigo> Hello buddies
[12:05] <amerigo>  I need a msn account to test in chat my web-cam
[12:06] <amerigo> there is anyones
[12:06] <amerigo> ??
[12:06] <VsmCH> If you want I can give you mine
[12:06] <amerigo> ok,
[12:07] <amerigo> i'm using kopete...
[12:07] <VsmCH> hum
[12:08] <VsmCH> I have some problems with irc
[12:08] <VsmCH> it blocked my personal message
[12:08] <amerigo> it seems to work, but when I send webcam nothing appens
[12:08] <VsmCH> Hum
[12:08] <VsmCH> We can try it
[12:08] <VsmCH> give me your account
[12:08] <amerigo> ok
[12:08] <amerigo> its my sister account
[12:09] <amerigo> a moment
[12:09] <jussi01> VsmCH: you are not registered/identified
[12:09] <amerigo> amour87@hotmail.it
[12:09] <jussi01> !register | VsmCH
[12:09] <ubotu> VsmCH: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:10] <amerigo> ready?
[12:10] <jussi01> amerigo: I wouldnt do that, all of the logs of these channels are published
[12:10] <VsmCH> yes amerigo
[12:10] <amerigo> ok np
[12:11] <amerigo> VsmCH: you have to contact me...
[12:11] <VsmCH> I see you offline
[12:12] <amerigo> offline?
[12:12] <VsmCH> yes
[12:13] <VsmCH> Sorry , I need to go
[12:13] <VsmCH> bb
[12:13] <amerigo> try now
[12:14] <VsmCH> no change
[12:14] <VsmCH> sry .
[12:14] <amerigo> ok
[12:18] <out_> tadam....
[12:20] <amerigo> jussi01: are you a boot?
[12:21] <Jucato> he isn't
[12:21] <Jucato> (unless he was transformed into footware)
[12:27]  * emilsedgh is wondering if Jucato is a bot
[12:27] <emilsedgh> :P
[12:27] <Jucato> you were saying?
[12:27] <Jucato> >:)
[12:27]  * emilsedgh closes his mouth
[12:27] <emilsedgh> :P
[12:30] <drbobb> hey, recently sometimes when i use adept-updater to install upgrades, it kills my xserver.. has anyone else dealt with that?
[12:31] <drbobb> i'm using nvidia's proprietary driver, in case it matters
[12:36] <Probedot_> is there a way to download virus definition files for nod32 v2.7 ?
[12:36] <Riddell> Remember folks: amarok hug triage day https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080313/KDE
[12:37] <yao_ziyua1> sometimes the pc speaker "beeps",
[12:37] <yao_ziyua1> what does that mean?
[12:40] <mariooo> Ciao amici di #kubuntu !!
[12:42] <niko_> hi to all
[12:42] <niko_> italian chan?
[12:42] <Jucato> !it | niko_
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> !it
[12:42] <ubotu> niko_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:43] <niko_> tnx
[12:45] <yazan> hi
[12:45] <Odd-rationale> !hi | yazan
[12:45] <ubotu> yazan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:48] <amigo> hey! when I mount sshfs under bash shell, I have error "Warning: no access to tty (Bad file descriptor).". If I change my shell to zsh. I have success mount sshfs. any idea?
[12:52] <niko_> hi
[12:52] <niko_> my audio cardo doesn't work....
[12:53] <niko_> someone can help me?
[12:53] <jussi01> niko_: which audio card?
[12:53] <niko_> uhm...
[12:53] <niko_> i dunno...
[12:53] <niko_> eheheh
[12:53] <niko_> lspci?
[12:54] <jussi01> yes please
[12:54] <niko_> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[12:54] <mika__> hi jussi .. from finland ?
[12:55] <jussi01> niko_: hrmmm, not sure if that is one of the intel variants
[12:55] <jussi01> hiya mika__ sort of...
[12:55] <jussi01> mika__: ask me in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:55] <mika__> jussi ... :)
[12:55] <mika__> jussi okay
[12:56] <router> ima li ot Bulgaria
[12:56] <jussi01> niko_: have a look at the intelhda issues, Im not sure if its relevant to your card, but maybe.
[12:56] <jussi01> !intelhda | niko_
[12:56] <ubotu> niko_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:57] <niko_> it's not an intel
[12:57] <jussi01> niko_: I know, but IIRC the nvidial ones had intel chipsets in them
[12:57] <niko_> okiz
[12:57] <jussi01> !away > rysiek|pl
[12:58] <jussi01> niko_: I could be wrong, so I suggest you ask that nice guy mr. google about it
[12:58] <niko_> uhm....
[12:58] <router> 7.10 and Nvidia 7050 - driver?
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> jussi01: argh, sorry about that, forgot I was on #kubuntu too...
[12:58] <amerigo> !it
[12:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <jussi01> !ati | router
[12:58] <ubotu> router: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:58]  * rysiek|pl slaps himself
[13:00] <router> thanx
[13:00] <jussi01> :)
[13:13] <lorenzo_> ciao
[13:23] <fat-head> i am having trouble accessing my existing installation of kubuntu, using the livecd i get " hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999 " what does that meaaan and how do i fix it ?
[13:24] <fat-head> anyone?
[13:27] <bolunga> hola
[13:28] <bolunga> hay alguien?
[13:28] <Jucato> !es
[13:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:28] <bolunga> ok ubotu
[13:30] <kaxi> what does "import dbus" do? in devicemanager.py (kde-hal-devce-manager) i get and error  "ImportError: No module named dbus"
[13:35]  * genii sips a coffee
[13:39]  * Jucato sips a T
[13:42] <genii> Jucato: Quiet in here
[13:43] <Jucato> you'll have your chance :)
[13:43]  * Jucato says "chance" with a British accent
[13:46] <genii> heh
[13:46] <genii> work is needing me here right now , afk
[13:57] <niko_> audio problem solved!
[13:58] <niko_> i've installed linux-backports-modules
[13:58] <niko_> and now ALSA module work perfectly
[14:00] <lovre> hi all
[14:00] <lovre> how do i check memory consumption for a specific program?
[14:01] <sivaji> lovre use "top"
[14:02] <lovre> what collumn is phisical memory cons. ? RES, SHR?
[14:02] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: RES is the closest to physical memory used.
[14:03] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: Although it's not that simple ;)
[14:03] <lovre> can you please explain?
[14:03] <lovre> why not
[14:03] <lovre> is it hard to detect or...?
[14:03] <Skaman> hi guys, there's a way to fix the kubuntu install through the cd?i even can't login in shell mode after the latest hardy install...
[14:04] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: It's just pretty complex - hang on, I'll try to find a link...
[14:04] <lovre> ok, thank you SSJ_GZ
[14:05] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: Here's some info: http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html
[14:06] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: The article doesn't mention swap usage, though, which is another factor that complicates matters.
[14:06] <lovre> is swap usage anything like the windows ?
[14:06] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: is it normal if my swap usage is @ 0%?
[14:06] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: Yes, that's fine.
[14:07] <lovre> i have 2Gb RAM
[14:07] <lovre> ok
[14:10] <Skaman> there's a way to fix the kubuntu install through the cd?i even can't login in shell mode after the latest hardy install...
[14:10] <LadyNikon> !hardy
[14:10] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:11] <LadyNikon> Skaman: see above
[14:11] <jlt> Hello I am facing a problem with kdesktop since upgrading to 3.5.9:  Instead of showing files in ~/Desktop the desktop displays the files in /.
[14:12] <lovre> i have another question. When i call man for a command, i enter the subroutine or something, and i can exit with q. Is there a way to get the contents of man in stdout?
[14:12] <LadyNikon> you mean a string that forwards it to another file besides man?
[14:13] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: man <prog> | cat
[14:14] <genii> jlt: Are you running as root?
[14:14] <jlt> no
[14:14] <jlt> genii: no
[14:14] <genii> jlt: OK. Did you have a separate /home partition previously?
[14:15] <jlt> genii: I did and I still do.
[14:16] <genii> jlt: Did the partition names change after upgrade, or else the fstab modified so that / is mounted as /home now?
[14:17] <genii> Or possibly another / from a different linux install, etc etc
[14:17] <jlt> genii: Not sure about the partition names.  But everything is still mounted in the same place as before.
[14:18] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: thank you. I thought i tried that, but it seems i didnt :D thank very much
[14:18] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: np :)
[14:18] <genii> jlt: Looks like perhaps this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/175982
[14:19] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: another question. The command "top" also goes into a program something like man. But i cant get it as a string with cat
[14:19] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: top | cat ->doesnt work
[14:19] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: it still just runs top
[14:20] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: is there a way to get a current state of top and send it to stdout
[14:20] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: top -bn1
[14:22] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: thanx again :D :D youve helped me alot :D
[14:22] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: Hehe - you're welcome :)
[14:24] <jlt> genii: will try what's described there. thanks
[14:27] <genii> jlt: Hope it helps.
[14:27] <jlt> genii: Yes it did.  Thanks a lot.
[14:27] <genii> jlt: You're welcome
[14:35] <_Angelus_> i bought an adapter to connect my laptop's hard drive to my pc, but the pc putted it as primary , i switched it to slave but the switch is a bit big  and the adapter dosen't fit too well with it , so there's a risk of the hard drive getting dis connected,
[14:35] <_Angelus_> now would be there loss of speed if i installed linux on the laptop's hard drive as primary ?
[14:40] <MrJoey> Is there a way to list available SSH servers on a network?
[14:41] <trappist> MrJoey: you'd use nmap for that
[14:41] <fat-head> i cant use ubuntu i get a xorg.conf error
[14:41] <fat-head> how do i reset xorg.conf
[14:41] <fat-head> ?
[14:41] <trappist> fat-head: sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg
[14:41] <trappist> fat-head: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:41] <trappist> sorry typo
[14:41] <fat-head> thnx
[14:48] <Probedot_> i need to configure apache to allow access to http:\\url.com\dummy\download , But to block access ,to http:\\url.com\dummy on port 80,can you do it?
[14:48] <Probedot_>  (i do need access to dummy on 443, i have a site where the root folder is a login to a console i need blocked,but a subfolder of that folder is open to clients to access files from,  I dont want people to access the console but still have access to the downloads, with Virt hosts,is that how i set up ports? like if i want it to work via 443,do i use *:443
 how do i reset xorg.conf ==> You can also delete xorg.conf and let X rebuild it.  Sometimes that works better than the dpkg way
[14:53] <ForsakenSoul> hello
[14:54] <ForsakenSoul> where can i configure the sources list in kubuntu
[14:54] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: adept -> manage repositories
[14:55] <ForsakenSoul> and just for the info.. does anyone here use kde 4 ?
[14:56] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: I don't. I'll wait at least till 4.1
[14:56] <ForsakenSoul> is it still buggy?
[14:57] <ForsakenSoul> frank_ I fell I'm gonna sound very very stupid but is there a program like add/remove programs like in ubuntu ?
[14:57] <ForsakenSoul> feel*
[14:57] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: well it's still missing features that 3.5 has.
[14:58] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: yes. open k-menu and it's right there ;-)
[14:58] <ForsakenSoul> oh :D really ... this did sound very stupid :D
[14:59] <ForsakenSoul> don't mind me
[14:59] <MrJoey> KDE 4.0 doesn't seem complete
[14:59] <MrJoey> hopefully KDE 4.1 will be more on par with KDE 3.5.8
 where can i configure the sources list in kubuntu ==> You can edit it manually at /etc/apt/sources.lst too if you like.
[15:01] <Probedot_> i need to configure apache to allow access to http:\\url.com\dummy\download , But to block access ,to http:\\url.com\dummy on port 80,can you do it?
[15:01] <Probedot_>  (i do need access to dummy on 443, i have a site where the root folder is a login to a console i need blocked,but a subfolder of that folder is open to clients to access files from,  I dont want people to access the console but still have access to the downloads, with Virt hosts,is that how i set up ports? like if i want it to work via 443,do i use *:443
[15:01] <ForsakenSoul> mrjoey yeah i know about that one .. but i'm not usually in a big hurry to configure things manually unless it's the only way to do it
[15:01] <Jucato> There's an "Edit Software Sources" button too (but if you're going to use that, use Adept Manager instead...)
[15:02] <Jucato> (because once you're finished editing the sources in Add/Remove Programs, it won't reload/refresh, so as if nothing happened)
[15:02] <frank_> Jucato: hmmm... add/remove programs should really update after you edit the sources
[15:03] <Jucato> frank_: should vs. doesn't
[15:03]  * Jucato tried to fix it. failed
[15:08] <ForsakenSoul> frank_ what Internet browser do you use ?
[15:08] <mika__> kubuntu 64 bit flash no sound ?
[15:11] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: Firefox mostly
[15:17] <ForsakenSoul> frank_ ... I'll have to bug you again
[15:18] <ForsakenSoul> is there a alsa micer in kde or is it only for gnome
[15:18] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[15:18] <frank_> ForsakenSoul: in kde it's called kmix. it's in the multimedia menu
[15:19] <ForsakenSoul> frank_ yeah found it but usually the PCM worked
[15:19] <ForsakenSoul> now it has no difference how high ot low it is
[15:19] <Agent_bob> depends on the source whether it's pcm or not
[15:21] <ForsakenSoul> agent_bob well ... the source are some mp3 files played in xmms
[15:22] <Agent_bob> so check the output of xmms   if it's using alsa/arts  or something else.    maybe you player is not channeling through pcm
[15:22] <ForsakenSoul> the output plugin is alsa and it's pcm
[15:23] <Agent_bob> then run kdesudo alsamixer and check the adjustment of pcm
[15:23] <ForsakenSoul> Agent_bob my bad ... forgot i have to restart the xmms
[15:23] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[15:23] <Agent_bob> ah hit on the first pass.     tov
[15:24] <frank_> Agent_bob: does tov stand for something?
[15:24] <Agent_bob> ummm   good
[15:25] <Agent_bob> translates to "good"
[15:25] <frank_> Agent_bob: i don't get it
[15:25] <Agent_bob> that's ok.
[15:28] <ForsakenSoul> agent_bob how do i change the icon of a file on the desktop
[15:28] <Agent_bob> ForsakenSoul right click it.    properties  ?
[15:28] <frank_> Agent_bob: can't pm right now.. so thanks!
[15:28] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[15:32] <ForsakenSoul> yeah found it ... Agent_bob sorry about the stupid question i'm just new to KDE and it's kinda confusing if you have never used it
[15:32] <ForsakenSoul> i have only used gnowe till now
[15:33]  * dthacker-work waves
[15:35] <fuhreal> Can someone tell me how to ensure i have my workgroup name set correctly?
[15:36] <ForsakenSoul> brb to reboot :D
[15:36]  * genii hands out more coffees
[15:37]  * cuznt grabs a cup.... danks
 *** nutritious AND delicious! -MrPalmer
[15:37]  * bomber shines genii's shoes repeating thank you thank you
[15:37] <genii> fuhreal: does command: testparm             report any errors in your smb.conf   settings?
[15:38] <genii> cuznt: bitte :)
[15:38] <genii> bomber: They're sneakers but thanks for the thought
[15:38] <bomber> thats just a technicality
[15:39] <fuhreal> genii: yah lock ERROR: lock directory /var/run/samba does not existERROR: pid directory /var/run/samba does not exist
[15:43] <fuhreal> genii: any ideas ?
[15:45] <fuhreal> Where is smb.conf ?
[15:45] <genii> fuhreal: OK that's one's not a biggie, just the logging. You can fix by: sudo mkdir /var/run/samba            and it should be able to log now. But thats unrelated to the other issue
[15:45] <genii> fuhreal: In /etc/samba
[15:45] <genii> file-locking not logging rather
[15:46] <fuhreal> hrmm ....
[15:46] <fuhreal> funny thing is.... it worked last night ...
[15:46] <root> español
[15:47] <genii> fuhreal: Does the workgroup name have spaces or other characters not normally used like ~!@  or so on?
[15:48] <fuhreal> genii: nope.... well it shouldn't .. unless something has re written my config from install here ....
[15:48] <fuhreal> genii: how can i check m yworkgroup name ?
[15:49] <root> pàra chat en español
[15:49] <genii> fuhreal: cat /etc/samba/smb.conf|grep workgroup   is a fast way to tell from the conf file
[15:49] <IppatsuMan> !es | root
[15:49] <ubotu> root: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:50] <rudd-o__> genii: faster: grep workgroup /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:50] <rudd-o__> no pipes
[15:51] <genii> rudd-o__: I know, my syntax is inelegant :) But it works
[15:52] <Jucato> also inefficient :P
[15:52] <Jucato> (2 commands vs 1 :P)
[15:52]  * genii fends off the critics
[15:52] <genii> Jucato: I know, i get crap about it all the time LOL
[15:55] <fuhreal> genii: when smb is edited do i need to restart samba
[15:55] <fuhreal> ?
[15:55] <Agent_bob> echo `cat blah | grep foo | cat`     if you just like using extra (do nothing) filters   :)
[15:55] <genii> fuhreal: Yes
[15:56] <rudd-o__> hahaaha
[15:56] <rudd-o__> fuhreal: you can reload it
[15:57] <rudd-o__> sighup
[15:57] <fuhreal> genii: its not in /etc/init.d ....
[15:57] <genii> fuhreal: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[15:57] <rudd-o__> but it's easier to just restart
[15:57] <fuhreal> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not fo
[15:58] <genii> fuhreal: Hmm. And you say samba was working last night?
[15:59] <fuhreal> genii: yup
[15:59] <genii> fuhreal: Is this on a client machine, or the samba server which we are working?
[15:59] <fuhreal> genii: client .. trying to connect to a windoze box
[15:59] <Agent_bob> is smb need to access winos ?
[16:00] <genii> fuhreal: OK, so the sm.conf file is pretty much moot there then. Clients only use smbclient
[16:00] <genii> *smb.conf
[16:01] <genii> fuhreal: In file browser put url like:    smb://x.x.x.x                     where x.x.x.x  is replaced by the IP of your Windows computer
[16:02] <fuhreal> genii: i wish i could find the bar in dolphin that i could type in ....
[16:02] <fuhreal> lol
[16:02] <fuhreal> darnit
[16:03] <jussi01> fuhreal: click the little thing on the top left (looks like an empty battery)
[16:03] <fuhreal> jussi01: nice .. thanks
[16:04] <jussi01> :)
[16:04]  * jussi01 uses konq
[16:04] <matthew__> When (roughly) does hardy come out?
[16:04] <fuhreal> genii: ok i can get the with SMB:// but unfortnately can't browse via dolphin gui by clicking network
[16:04] <jussi01> matthew__: april
[16:04] <fuhreal> not a big deal though
[16:04] <jussi01> matthew__: hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 though :)
[16:05] <fuhreal> All this to burn some mac images for a chick with big boobies awe man.. :/
[16:07] <youni> hello
[16:07] <jussi01> hi
[16:08] <fuhreal> 2nd networking issue :) anyone know what protocol amarok needs to play mp3's sitting on a windoze box ?
[16:08] <fuhreal> i.e. stream em '
[16:08] <jussi01> fuhreal: just mount the share in fstab
[16:08] <jussi01> samba is fine
[16:08] <fuhreal> jussi01: but i don't want it mounting all the time
[16:09] <flipstar> fstab means automount
[16:09] <fuhreal> flipstar: but if i put it in fstab, won't it always try to mount on boot?
[16:09] <flipstar> yes..but doesnt matter if it failes
[16:09] <jussi01> fuhreal: yeah, but if its not there it wont mount
[16:09] <Agent_bob> fuhreal unless you specify 'noauto'
[16:10] <fuhreal> jussi01: when i try to just use samba amarok complains about the plugin for the network is not suitable
[16:10] <rudd-o__> you can put in the mount options the word noauto and then it won't be booted
[16:10] <fuhreal> but it works fine with rythmbox .. i just like amarok better
[16:10] <jussi01> fuhreal: you need it mounted via fstab
[16:10] <fuhreal> really ....
[16:10] <rudd-o__> and you can put "noauto,user" also there and it will let regular users mount it as well
[16:12] <Agent_bob> rudd-o__ you prefer 'user' over 'users' ?
[16:14] <fuhreal> so ..... any idea why ryhtmbox doesn't require the fstab declaration but amarok does?
[16:15] <Agent_bob> fuhreal cause amarok is weaker and requires more support ???      </hides>
[16:15] <fuhreal> ps... DMG2ISO is a great app
[16:16] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: lol ...... but its so perty
[16:17] <Agent_bob> "beauty is a curse"
[16:17] <coreymon77> ???
[16:17] <coreymon77> thats a little random
[16:17] <fuhreal> coreymon77: u just got here thats why
[16:18] <niko_> someone can help me in configuring my atheros wifi chipset?
[16:18] <coreymon77> i guess so
[16:18] <coreymon77> niko_: sure
[16:18] <niko_> tnx
[16:18] <coreymon77> niko_: simple
[16:18] <coreymon77> niko_: whats the actual card btw?
[16:18] <niko_> i've tried madwifi
[16:18] <niko_> ar5006eg
[16:19] <coreymon77> fuhreal:
[16:19] <coreymon77> fuhreal: sorry about thyat
[16:19] <coreymon77> niko_: company?
[16:19] <niko_> atheros...
[16:19] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 yeah it's also OT i think you should ban Agent_bob  .... oh wait i'm Agent_bob,    never mind.
[16:19] <coreymon77> oh, okay
[16:20] <Agent_bob> :)
[16:20] <coreymon77> wow, this is a first, an atheros card that doesnt work out  of the box
[16:20] <niko_> uhm....
[16:21] <niko_> corey... i'm going crazy
[16:21] <genii> back (work emergency)
[16:21] <niko_> but i need my atheros chipset
[16:21] <coreymon77> niko_: no problem
[16:21] <coreymon77> niko_: we will get it working, dont worry
[16:21] <Agent_bob> wb genii
[16:21] <flipstar> niko_: did you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[16:21] <coreymon77> niko_: so, you tried the madwifi instructions?
[16:22] <niko_> the link of flipstar?
[16:22] <genii> fuhreal: Likely the Windows box is getting a different IP each time and the cache tries the old IP. Or also broadcast address is not set on one or both boxes for announcing to work
[16:22] <genii> Agent_bob: Thanks
[16:22] <niko_> yes but don't work...
[16:23] <coreymon77> niko_: well, have you looked at flipstars link? and what are you using, feisty edgy, gutsy
[16:23] <niko_> now i've removed the package installed by adept
[16:23] <fuhreal> genii: nope .. its starick ....
[16:23] <niko_> gutsy
[16:23] <fuhreal> *static
[16:23] <niko_> yes but don't work
[16:23] <fuhreal> can ubuntu burn dmg files ?
[16:23] <fuhreal> direcly ... without converting to iso first?
[16:24] <coreymon77> niko_: you should get the madwifi tools package, its better than nothing
[16:24] <niko_> uhm
[16:24] <niko_> but not work
[16:24] <coreymon77> but
[16:24] <coreymon77> lets just see something
[16:24] <niko_> okiz
[16:24] <coreymon77> niko_: do you mind doing something for me
[16:25] <niko_> sure
[16:25] <coreymon77> niko_: type iwconfig into a console window
[16:25] <niko_> done
[16:25] <coreymon77> niko_: and paste the output on pastebin
[16:25] <niko_> 1pastebin
[16:25] <niko_> !pastebin
[16:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:25] <kcin>  how do i make a script run on startup
[16:25] <sebbar> hi, once I have remotely logged into a computer through ssh, how do I execute a program on it? the program is on my pc
[16:26] <niko_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59492/
[16:26] <flipstar> fuhreal: you might try to mount it and then burn ..
[16:26] <coreymon77> okay then
[16:27] <flipstar> fuhreal: see http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm for that
[16:27] <Agent_bob> sebbar type the name of the "program" ?
[16:27] <niko_> how i remove the driver installed?
[16:27] <coreymon77> niko_: install the madwifi-tools package and use that to install your driver
[16:27] <coreymon77> you need the driver
[16:27] <jussi01> !autostart | kcin
[16:27] <ubotu> kcin: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[16:28] <niko_> corey
[16:28] <niko_> step by step please
[16:28] <niko_> first i installmad wifi tools
[16:28] <coreymon77> sorry
[16:28] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get install madwifi-tools
[16:29] <niko_> done
[16:29] <coreymon77> now im not too sure if that is a graphical package or not, but
[16:30] <fuhreal> flipstar: any idea what -o loop command is for mount?
[16:30] <coreymon77> look in your kmenu and see if you can find madwifi tools anywhere in it
[16:30] <coreymon77> or anything related to madwifi
[16:30] <Agent_bob> fuhreal man mount       actually   man man
[16:31] <niko_> nothing
[16:31] <niko_> onlyt a new command
[16:31] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: uh huh
[16:31] <niko_> madwifi-unload
[16:31] <sebas891> hey folks, I'm trying to install kubuntu on a fancy laptop. I'm trying to boot with noapic nolapic no luck.
[16:31] <sebas891> any idea?
[16:32] <sebbar> Agent_bob: mmh I type ./program and get command not found, as I'd expect... remember that program is on my pc
[16:32] <matthew__> what is ubuntu 7.10 called again?  I am trying to file a bug report and it wants to know the project name..
[16:32] <flipstar> gutsy
[16:32] <flipstar> gibbon
[16:33] <coreymon77> niko_: im sorry, im not all to familiar with the usage of that package and im away from my linux box at the moment
[16:33] <Agent_bob> fuhreal almost all linux commands can be inspected/invesitgated with the "man" command     there are exceptions of course,   bash builtins  use  help command     and a few commands don't have any manual page   most of them have info pages though.    info blah
[16:33] <frank_> matthew__: the project name in launchpad is just ubuntu
[16:33] <niko_> where i can go to receive this help?
[16:33] <niko_> please....
[16:33] <coreymon77> niko_: however, try madwifi-tools --help in console
[16:34] <coreymon77> see if that gives you anything
[16:34] <matthew__> frank_: It replied with: There is no project named 'ubuntu' registered in Launchpad
[16:35] <niko_> no
[16:35] <matthew__> what a stupid bug tracker
[16:35] <niko_> nothing
[16:35] <coreymon77> niko_: can you find wlan tools anywhere
[16:35] <frank_> matthew__: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[16:35] <feelz> xdcc list
[16:36] <coreymon77> niko_: sorry, i have to go
[16:36] <coreymon77> niko_: i need to get back to class now
[16:36] <niko_> i'm going crazy!
[16:36] <niko_> okey
[16:36] <niko_> see u soon!
[16:36] <fuhreal> Agent_bob: thanks, i'm aware of the man command, just short on time right now.. thanks though
[16:36] <matthew__> frank_: thanks!
[16:38] <Agent_bob> fuhreal welcome    and less does searchs    man mount     /loop
[16:39] <Agent_bob> i wasn't trying ot be "mean" or "shnuty"  about it.
[16:41] <malro> hey
[16:41] <flipstar> any good alternatives for firefox ?
[16:41] <malro> whats the website to set up kubuntu?
[16:42] <SlimeyPete> flipstar: Opera, if you don't mind non-OSS stuff
[16:42] <jussi01> !browsers | flipstar
[16:42] <ubotu> flipstar: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[16:42] <malro> whats the website for seting up compz-fusion
[16:42] <niko_> atheros driver
[16:42] <niko_> who can help me?
[16:42] <Agent_bob> elinks   :)        but that's probably not what you mean flipstar      some like konqueror     some epiphny  or what ever it's called.
[16:43] <malro> whats the website for seting up compz-fusion?
[16:43] <jussi01> !compiz | malro
[16:43] <ubotu> malro: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:43] <Agent_bob> dillo is light weight  if you like small
[16:43] <flipstar> i will try opera, thanks :)
[16:43] <malro> thanx
[16:44]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about all the KDE4-Compiz questions
[16:45] <Agent_bob> flipstar might i sujest   apt-cache search web browser
[16:46] <flipstar> Agent_bob: 298 lines output from that ..
[16:46] <Agent_bob> so filter it.    apt-cache search web browser | grep -i "web browser"
[16:47] <flipstar> great :)
[16:48] <malro> whats the website for seting up compz-fusion
[16:48] <malro> i forgot
[16:48] <malro> :s
[16:48] <flipstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:48] <malro> thankx
[16:49] <frank_> genii: kwin will get compositing
[16:50] <Arwen> frank_, technically, it already has it. Just not a very good implementation.
[16:51] <frank_> msg ubotu alsa
[16:53] <exe> hello guys i search for the xubuntu quells?
[16:54] <genii> frank_: I'm just not looking forward to all of it
[16:54] <exe> can you help me?
[16:54] <frank_> exe: what's a quell?
[16:54] <Agent_bob> !find quells
[16:54] <ubotu> No packages matching 'quells' could be found
[16:55] <exe> sry quellen
[16:55] <Agent_bob> !find quellen
[16:55] <ubotu> No packages matching 'quellen' could be found
[16:55] <exe> no package i search for the link
[16:55] <genii> quellen french for "where is it?"  ?
[16:56] <jussi01> is quellen a theme?
[16:56] <exe> no reference i mean
[16:56] <Agent_bob> /join #xubuntu    for the help channel     http://ubuntu.com   for the utl
[16:56] <exe> i have kubuntu
[16:57] <Agent_bob> utl ???   url
[16:57] <exe> jey
[16:57] <exe> yes
[16:57] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop     to fetch all the related packages.
[16:58] <Agent_bob> oh and one more thing.
[16:58] <Agent_bob> !fr
[16:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:59] <lumm> !find mediatomb
[16:59] <ubotu> No packages matching 'mediatomb' could be found
[17:00] <Agent_bob> !games
[17:00] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:01] <genii> It's not a game, a streaming media server (UPNP)
[17:02] <genii> lumm: http://mediatomb.cc/pages/download#debian_ubuntu
[17:03] <mkargar_> hello all frinend!
[17:03] <genii> lumm: It's not in Ubuntu yet because still in Debian Unstable
[17:04] <lumm> it is
[17:04] <lumm> atleast 0.10
[17:04] <lumm> 0.11 not
[17:04] <genii> lumm: In Hardy but not < Hardy
[17:04] <lumm> mh i had it in gutsy.
[17:04] <lumm> anyway just wanted to tryout the bot
[17:04] <lumm> :D
[17:05] <Agent_bob> that page states "MediaTomb made it into Debian and Ubuntu recently and is currently in Debian unstable (with 0.11.0),"    however i suspect that genii is correct
[17:06] <nick_> whos mediatomb
[17:06] <Agent_bob> http://mediatomb.cc/pages/download#debian_ubuntu
[17:07] <jussi01> !info mediatomb hardy
[17:07] <ubotu> mediatomb (source: mediatomb): UPnP MediaServer (main package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.0.dfsg1-2 (hardy), package size 16 kB, installed size 96 kB
[17:07] <jussi01> :)
[17:07] <mkargar_> i instlled Kubuntu 7.10 64 bit on my system!since of selected Kubuntu in Grub page,kubuntu not showing ''splash scree'' and my monitor turning off an showing error:Video mod not supported!this problem is only since of install!
[17:07] <genii> There ya go
[17:07] <mkargar_> SplashBoot!!!
[17:08] <nick_> wait
[17:08] <nick_> why does adept updater want me to remove kaffeine-xine?
[17:08] <mkargar_> not splash screen!Splash Boot!
[17:08] <Agent_bob> they really should NOT announce that things have "made it into"  when it's still in pre-release !
[17:08] <nick_> i thought gstreamer sucked and was full of aids
[17:08] <jpatrick> nick_: new realease had a change
[17:08] <Doctor_Nick> jpatrick: how so?
[17:08] <jpatrick> Doctor_Nick: dunno, but I had the same change here
[17:09] <Doctor_Nick> hows video work on yours?
[17:09] <Doctor_Nick> does xvideo still work?
[17:09] <jpatrick> Doctor_Nick: I personally use codeine, don't really like kaffeine
[17:10] <Doctor_Nick> well i mean
[17:10] <Doctor_Nick> are you using gstreamer with codeine?
[17:10] <jpatrick> Doctor_Nick: "aptitude changelog kaffeine" doesn't show much info...
[17:10] <jpatrick> Doctor_Nick: no, xine for all
[17:10] <Doctor_Nick> mmm.
[17:10] <frank_> Doctor_Nick: maybe your repo is inconsistent right now. amarok-xine shouldn't have to be removed
[17:11] <Doctor_Nick> i know
[17:11] <Doctor_Nick> amarok-xine is getting updated
[17:11] <Doctor_Nick> kaffeine-xine is getting removed
[17:11] <frank_> Doctor_Nick: kaffeine-xine*
[17:11] <Doctor_Nick> yeah
[17:11] <jussi01> Doctor_Nick: hardy or gutsy?
[17:11] <Doctor_Nick> gutsy
[17:12] <jussi01> weird...
[17:12] <Doctor_Nick> i just dont want it to break my shit :/
[17:12] <jussi01> !ohmy
[17:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:12] <Agent_bob> busted fecal     oh my!
[17:12] <Doctor_Nick> i wish ubuntu had a roll back feature like windows does whenever an update goes kakky-wompus
[17:12] <frank_> Doctor_Nick: just don't upgrade right now. maybe this will resolve itself
[17:12] <Doctor_Nick> frank_: good idear
[17:12] <fuhreal> Would i need Wine to run a windows .exe ?
[17:13] <fuhreal> i.e. a keygen
[17:13] <jussi01> fuhreal: yes
[17:13] <jussi01> !o4o | fuhreal
[17:13] <ubotu> fuhreal: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[17:13] <Doctor_Nick> maybe it's a legal keygen
[17:13] <jpatrick> !piracy | jussi01 (;))
[17:13] <ubotu> jussi01 (;)): piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:13] <Agent_bob> fuhreal yes you would need wine to run an m$ .exe
[17:14] <Pici> ...
[17:14] <fuhreal> is wine located in the adept installer?
[17:14] <jpatrick> Pici: yo!
[17:14] <Agent_bob> !info wine
[17:14] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[17:14] <Agent_bob> !wine
[17:14] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:15] <Agent_bob> !AppDB
[17:15] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[17:16] <flipstar> legal keygen ? oO
[17:16] <fuhreal> flipstar: of course
[17:16] <jussi01> moving right along
[17:16]  * fuhreal screams as he bit his toung
[17:16]  * fuhreal can't spell 
[17:17] <fuhreal> So if I use apt-get to install wine.... it "should" show up in kmenu no ?
[17:17] <flipstar> in kmenu is only wine stuff..not wine itself
[17:17] <frank_> fuhreal: just click the the .exe after wine is installed
[17:17] <Agent_bob> the o4o infonode is imprecise.  most of those topics are expressly forbiden on the freenode network not just this channel.    which makes me seriously consider not spending any more time on freenode than required.
[17:18] <Agent_bob> wine /path/to/file.exe
[17:18] <feelz> !list
[17:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:19] <mkargar_> i instlled Kubuntu 7.10 64 bit on my system!since of selected Kubuntu in Grub page,kubuntu not showing ''splash Boot'' and my monitor turning off an showing error:Video mod not supported!this problem is only since of install!
[17:20] <jussi01> mkargar_: what happens when you leave it?
[17:20]  * Agent_bob thinks irc.freenode.net   should rename to irc.restrictednode.net
[17:20] <jussi01> does it finally boot?
[17:20] <jussi01> Agent_bob: this is really not the place for that...
[17:20] <Agent_bob> i know.  that's the point.   but i;m on my way out anyway.
[17:21] <Agent_bob> shalom jussi01 genii and anyone i missed.
[17:21] <mkargar_> when i selected Kubuntu 7.10,spplash boot not showing and my monitor turning off!!
[17:21] <fuhreal> sweet
[17:21] <fuhreal> wine worked perfect
[17:21] <fuhreal> thanks all for your help!
[17:21] <jussi01> mkargar_: yes, if you leave it for a few mins, what happens?
[17:21] <genii> Agent_bob: Laters :)
[17:21] <jussi01> fuhreal: great :)
[17:21] <fuhreal> bbl :)
[17:22] <mkargar_> my monitor masseging erro:Video mode not supporting!
[17:22] <mkargar_> my monitor masseging erro:Video mode not supported!
[17:22] <jussi01> mkargar_: try booting in recovery mode
[17:23] <jussi01> (selectable from grub)
[17:23] <mkargar_> i tested recovery mode!but,My problem not sloved!
[17:23] <mkargar_> not Solved!
[17:23] <flipstar> byebye
[17:24] <jussi01> mkargar_: did revery mode boot ?
[17:25] <jussi01> recovery*
[17:25] <mkargar_> jussis01:i test it!problem not solved!
[17:25] <jussi01> mkargar_: ok, so it did not boot then?
[17:26] <le_> hi girl
[17:26] <mkargar_> No not!my system booting & not problem!
[17:28] <mkargar_> another problem is since of enabling Graphic DriverNvidia 6800 GT)
[17:30] <mkargar_> in the boot,all script fonts is Large!!!
[17:32] <ScorpKing> mkargar_: using !!! all the time does not get you faster help !!!
[17:33] <mkargar_> excusme dear friend!
[17:34] <Arwen> damn, compiz's group/tab windows plugin is meaningless. :)
[17:34]  * ScorpKing doesn't use compiz.. too much problems to keep drivers working
[17:35] <Arwen> eh, I had driver problems until I stopped using fglrx
[17:35] <Arwen> works fine now
[17:36] <ScorpKing> Arwen: what is fglrx?
[17:36] <Arwen> proprietary ATI driver
[17:36] <Arwen> it sucks (tm)
[17:36] <jpatrick> !fglrx
[17:36] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:37] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[17:47] <ar0nic> hey guys ive got a bit of a question about getting all codecs and such up to date
[17:48] <ar0nic> ive installed  a few last nite but in mplayer vlc and kaffiene im getting no video and sound only
[17:50] <ar0nic> awesome so i guess this is a channel of idlers....?
[17:50] <cdmwd> Im here
[17:50] <cdmwd> I actually am doing hw
[17:50] <jussi01> !codecs | ar0nic
[17:50] <ubotu> ar0nic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:50] <ar0nic> yeah im a noob, ive been googling my ass off bro
[17:50] <otaku-san> well I was getting on to check up on any news
[17:50] <cdmwd> I was going to ask some questions though
[17:51] <ar0nic> ive already downloaded the restricted formats
[17:51] <ar0nic> that middle link looks interesting
[17:51] <cdmwd> http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy
[17:51] <jussi01> ar0nic: let me guess, running compiz with intel graphics?
[17:51] <cdmwd> check there if it solves anything
[17:52] <cdmwd> I had a compiz problem too that seems to be a reported bug
[17:52] <ar0nic> no jussi
[17:53] <ar0nic> hp p4 lappy with ati graphics
[17:53] <ar0nic> how would i go about removing all codecs ive previously installed and then re applying them
[17:54] <jussi01> ar0nic: running compiz at all?
[17:56] <ar0nic> compiz?
[17:56] <ar0nic> these are the ones i installed last nite
[17:56] <ar0nic> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[17:56] <jussi01> ar0nic: that just adds the medibuntu repo
[17:57] <ar0nic> this one as well sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[17:57] <jussi01> ar0nic: exactly what type of files are you trying to play?
[17:57] <ar0nic> all my media room my win box
[17:58] <ar0nic> divx xvid avi mpeg so on so forth
[17:58] <ar0nic> on not room***
[18:00] <ar0nic> im still trying to get used to using cli commands and package managers
[18:00] <ar0nic> this is a fun OS to troubleshoot but a bit of its whacky
[18:01] <otaku-san> ar0nic: are you new to Ubuntu..and even the kernel Linux?
[18:01] <ubuntu> wenas
[18:01] <otaku-san> just curious..that came out rude
[18:02] <ar0nic> for instance it tol me repeatvely i didnt have samba nfs installed to network but i went to my network folders and there it was samba and it showed all my other networked pc's
[18:02] <ar0nic> no otaku-san im total noob
[18:02] <ar0nic> but ive been reading like crazy
[18:02] <ar0nic> trying to figure things out
[18:02] <jussi01> ar0nic: you have a good attitude. :)
[18:02] <otaku-san> I agree
[18:02]  * jussi01 is happy to see that
[18:03] <otaku-san> okay...I'm trying to drudge up some old info I had on this problem of yours ar0nic
[18:03] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu!
[18:03] <ar0nic> thanks guys
[18:03] <otaku-san> somewhere deep in my box I have everything you need...
[18:04] <ar0nic> problem is, lets say i find a good faq on my issue so ill do the cli commmand as oppose to the package manager
[18:04]  * genii refrains from commenting
[18:04] <ar0nic> but when the problem doesnt fix should i undo everything ive added
[18:04] <DaSkreech> genii: How's that Koffee ?
[18:04] <ar0nic> then its prolly good you are genii
[18:05]  * genii hands DaSkreech a freshly brewed Tim Horton's coffee
[18:05] <ar0nic> id prefer to use vlc player
[18:06] <otaku-san> it normally is a good idea to keep what you install...just in case you have dependencies later
[18:06] <ar0nic> as its what i use on my win box and i like the program...so i hit up there site and follow all  instructions...but still ive got  sound and no video
[18:06] <otaku-san> keep vlc
[18:06] <otaku-san> ah..late there
[18:07] <ar0nic> ive got mplayer source on here..i just grabbed it and didnt use any type of package manager or cli command
[18:07] <zimon> i've got a problem with hal, think. usb-drives are mounted automatically, but cds / dvds aren't .... after reboot, i need to modprobe ide-cd and restart hal to make it work exactly once
[18:07] <ar0nic> just grabbed the source...so in a sense i cant even run the program with out using some tyype of shell commands?
[18:07] <genii> zimon: Perhaps add ide-cd to /etc/modules
[18:08] <otaku-san> ya...I'm a total noob on this stuff..but you have to invoke the source somehow ar0nic
[18:08] <otaku-san> you can't just have it sitting there..it has to be compiled
[18:08] <ar0nic> thats what i thought
[18:08] <otaku-san> where cli comes in
[18:08] <otaku-san> or konsole..as I'm apt to call it
[18:09] <ar0nic> but i thought i could just open the file with the mplayer executable and i would work heh
[18:09] <ar0nic> i didnt see any compiling info on the mplayer page
[18:09] <DaSkreech> !info vlc
[18:09] <ubotu> vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[18:09] <zimon> genii: what for? i don't need the module if i want to mount cds manually. also, it does work only once .. afterwards the desktop icon of the formerly mounted cd doesn't even disappear
[18:09] <DaSkreech> !info mplayer
[18:09] <ubotu> mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[18:10] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: Any reason you can't use the ones provided?
[18:10] <otaku-san> ar0nic: hold on..executable?  Send me the page you got the file from
[18:10] <ar0nic> DaSkreech:  I CAN USE kaffiene and vlc but no video
[18:10] <ar0nic> i wont play divx
[18:10] <ar0nic> it**
[18:10] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: You did an apt-get install vlc?
[18:10] <DaSkreech> !codecs
[18:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:10] <ar0nic> yes for vlc
[18:11] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: read ^^^
[18:11] <otaku-san> he got that on already
[18:11] <ar0nic> have followed all instructions on the restricted formats
[18:11] <ar0nic> and compilled
[18:11] <ar0nic> does it hurt to do it twice?
[18:11] <DaSkreech> woah what did you compile?
[18:11] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: so you added multiverse?
[18:11] <genii> zimon: Adding it to there would make it load every boot instead of needing to modprobe it etc etc. But if even doing that only makes it work once anyways then maybe no use. Are you ejecting the cd in software or just at the drive?
[18:12] <zimon> genii: tried both, no difference
[18:12] <ar0nic> multiverse?
[18:13] <DaSkreech> !multiverse
[18:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:13] <otaku-san> hey, is firefox just a mem hog on Kubuntu...or is it my slow ass box?
[18:13] <genii> zimon: is it in /etc/fstab noauto ?
[18:13] <ar0nic> i chose all restriced repositories and such
[18:13] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: it's a memory hog anywhere
[18:13] <ar0nic> im using adept
[18:13] <genii> (as option for the dev the cd is)
[18:13] <zimon> genii: yes
[18:13] <ar0nic> firefox is trash
[18:13] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: so all checkboxes are checked
[18:14] <ar0nic> yeah i can download from anywhere
[18:14] <ar0nic> from any repositories that it
[18:14] <ar0nic> is*
[18:14] <DaSkreech> and you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[18:14] <DaSkreech> after reloading
[18:14] <genii> zimon: Have you tried with auto  instead?
[18:14] <ar0nic> kubuntu or ubuntu
[18:15] <zimon> genii: no .. do have to restart some service after changing the fstab?
[18:15] <DaSkreech> kubuntu I think
[18:15] <ar0nic> i keep getting links to the the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:15] <ar0nic> and have done that
[18:15] <genii> zimon: No service restart needed there
[18:15] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: are you running Kubuntu ?
[18:15] <ar0nic> yes
[18:15] <genii> zimon: Just try loading physically a cd in
[18:15] <ar0nic> gutsy
[18:15] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:16] <zimon> genii: nothing happens
[18:16] <genii> zimon: OK
[18:16] <ar0nic> you think thats whats f'n me up
[18:16] <ar0nic> ?
[18:18] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: no idea but it's agood guess
[18:18] <ar0nic> hmm
[18:18] <ar0nic> i enjoy having to trouble shoot and what not
[18:18] <ar0nic> my first voyeur with kubuntu was trying to load it onto my external usb hd on my main box
[18:18] <ar0nic> after failing i decided my laptop with broken screen would do nicely
[18:19] <ar0nic> (i have to hook it up to a moniter and what not)
[18:19] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: :-)
[18:20] <ar0nic> still no video
[18:27] <peabody> I'm trying out kubuntu for the first time since Fiesty, which didn't support my disk arrays..
[18:28] <Arwen> ugh, compiz makes my CPU idle at 17% usage
[18:30] <peabody> now I've got a problem with Hardy
[18:30] <peabody> I'm using a Logitech MX 500 bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[18:31] <peabody> and when I start Kubuntu, when it gets to the login screen, I need to unplug my USB bluetooth dongle, then reconnect my mouse and keyboard to get them to work
[18:31] <peabody> *MX 5000
[18:31] <otaku-san> Arwen: haha...don't complain ;P  My boxen can hover at that idling with just a few programs (like text editors)
[18:31] <otaku-san> my processor is pretty old
[18:31] <peabody> I'm not sure if it is resetting and restarting the bluetooth device every boot, but it's pretty much a show stopper
[18:32] <peabody> where could I find if there's a fix for something like this?
[18:33] <DaSkreech> ar0nic: tried apt-get install mplayer?
[18:33] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[18:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:36] <exe_> hi ich brauch aḿal schnel hilfe ich hab ne nvdia karte weiß nich welche,und möchte gerne compiz starten,was für ne glx soll ich verwenden normal glx oder legacy?karte is schon älter
[18:37] <otaku-san> has anyone tried to hack the music from iTunes on their windows partition and make it play on their Linux partition
[18:38] <daiana> #kubuntu-es
[18:39] <IppatsuMan> !de | exe_
[18:39] <ubotu> exe_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:39] <trappist> es?
[18:40] <DaSkreech> can I up the number of desktops in compiz
[18:40] <trappist> DaSkreech: yes, horizontal virtual size in general settings
[18:42] <trappist> I wonder why I have 25 dbus-daemon processes running
[18:42] <Freku> because 24 was not enough ?
[18:43] <trappist> I see now that 23 of them have been running for at least 3 months... killall seems to have fixed it, standing by for side effects
[18:45] <ar0nic> i ust tried a divx install and no dice there either
[18:47] <DaSkreech> trappist: this is ccsm?
[18:47] <trappist> DaSkreech: yeah
[18:51] <DaSkreech> trappist: impressing my students :)
[18:51] <trappist> heh
[18:58] <otaku-san> hey, ar0nic where did you get your repo list?
[19:08] <chassou> bousoir
[19:08] <chassou> bonsoir*
[19:08] <chassou> quelqu'un est francais?
[19:09] <chassou> j'ai besoin d'aide :s
[19:09] <lolowride> moi
[19:09] <lolowride> :p
[19:09] <genii> !fr | chassou
[19:09] <ubotu> chassou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:09] <lolowride> -> kubunru-fr
[19:09] <chassou> hun comment qu'on fait :p
[19:10] <chassou> trouvé :x
[19:12] <genii> chassou: On peut poser ici une question si elle est en anglais. Dans d'autres cas des visiteurs sont dirigés vers le canal qui est pour la langue qu'ils parlent.
[19:12]  * genii loves babelfish
[19:13] <genii> wait that came out wrong
[19:13]  * genii sips his coffee
[19:17] <otaku-san> I bet you do love it
[19:17] <otaku-san> haha but really...it is pretty useful
[19:18] <genii> otaku-san: Yes, sometimes comes in handy when foreign visitors are ignoring messages from the bot
[19:19] <otaku-san> haha true.  It comes out a bit wrong in some cases...like wrong person..or wrong order of words.  But, for the most part it is understandable
[19:20]  * rix-merka ära omas mullis
[19:29] <El1> Hey guys anyone have some experience with wine? I've already got it up and running but my keyboard isn't working
[19:29]  * genii can't find an easy to use Estonian translator
[19:29] <Dragonath> how do I mount a b5t file?
[19:30]  * Dragonath is an easy to use estonian translator :P
[19:32] <flipstar> whats a b5t..?
[19:33] <Dragonath> a weird image file
[19:33] <Dragonath> google tells me it's blindwrite 5
[19:33] <Dragonath> however that's about all that google tells me about mounting it
[19:34] <flipstar> mount -o loop doesnt work ?
[19:34] <Dragonath> it wants a fs type
[19:34] <ScorpKing> Dragonath: man mount and see if it's supported
[19:35] <flipstar> try hfs or so
[19:35] <flipstar> or autodetect or how it is called..>man mount
[19:36] <Dragonath> I don't find it in man mount
[19:36] <Dragonath> hfs doesn't work
[19:36] <frank_> Dragonath: http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/viewpage.php?page_id=1  AcetoneIso supports .b5i it must be related to that
[19:36] <Dragonath> hmm how do I autodetect?
[19:38] <Dragonath> well they do come in pairs - a b5t and a b5i file
[19:38] <Dragonath> but I don't see how this helps me
[19:38] <Dragonath> google told me daemon tools also has a b5t plugin
[19:39] <flipstar> mount probably wont work with this proprietry formats
[19:39] <Dragonath> however I really don't think running DT through wine with this plugin would help me :)
[19:39] <frank_> Dragonath: install acetoneiso (basically does the function od daemon tools)
[19:39] <Dragonath> hmm
[19:39] <Dragonath> might be worth a shot
[19:39] <Dragonath> thanks, I'll try it
[19:44] <genii> !info b5i2iso
[19:44] <ubotu> b5i2iso (source: b5i2iso): BlindWrite image to ISO image file converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 56 kB
[19:47] <Dragonath> ahh now you tell me :)
[19:47] <genii> Dragonath: I just found it :)
[19:48] <Dragonath> btw, when I purge something from adept, what does it do different than just removal?
[19:49] <frank_> Dragonath: deletes configuration files
[19:49] <frank_> Dragonath: it does a apt-get remove --purge
[19:50] <Dragonath> ok
[19:50] <Dragonath> I figured that myself, but somehow when i do purges they still leave some stuff behind
[19:50] <Dragonath> is there any way to remove packages that aren't being used/needed by anything?
[19:52] <flipstar> apt-get autoremove..
[19:53] <flipstar> purgin only deletes config files in /etc/ not in homedir
[19:53] <Dragonath> ahh
[19:53] <Dragonath> this explains everything
[19:53] <Dragonath> thanks
[19:56] <TERE> hola
[19:58] <TERE> hhh
[19:58] <drkns> hello
[19:58] <TERE> hello drkns
[19:58] <flipstar> hi drkns, hi TERE
[19:59] <drkns> i am using gwenview and when i select use external tool and select gimp it cannot find gimp
[19:59] <TERE> spanish
[19:59] <frank_> !es | TERE
[19:59] <ubotu> TERE: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:59] <drkns> i have gimp and works
[20:00] <drkns> mostprobably it does not have the right command
[20:00] <drkns> what it has as a command gimp-remote -n %F
[20:01] <flipstar> gimp-remote %F yes
[20:01] <flipstar> without the -n here
[20:02] <genii> gimp-remote is for an already-running gimp
[20:02] <flipstar> it started gimp here
[20:03] <flipstar> and in konsole it also works
[20:03] <flipstar> drkns: just try without the -n
[20:03] <flipstar> here it says Unknown option -n
[20:03] <genii> Ah, the man page at their site explains it will open an instance if none exists
[20:04] <milian> does anybody know where I can disable the hibernation and suspend buttons in the kde3 shutdown menu? there should be a file somewhere for this...
[20:04] <genii> That page http://www.gimp.org/man/gimp-remote.html
[20:05] <drkns> thank you very much flipstar
[20:05] <drkns> solved the problem
[20:12] <ForsakenSoul> hi i just want to ask has anyone tryed kxdocker ?
[20:13] <raylu> i have
[20:13] <raylu> a little quirky, but it works once you have it set up
[20:13] <ForsakenSoul> raylu is it easy to set up
[20:13] <raylu> i decided in the end that i don't need a dock
[20:13] <raylu> i use katapult instead :D
[20:13] <raylu> no, it's actually a bit of a pain
[20:13] <raylu> but is that really an issue for you?
[20:13] <ForsakenSoul> well ... not really
[20:13] <ForsakenSoul> :d
[20:14] <raylu> good :D
[20:14] <ForsakenSoul> i'm kinda newbie but i manage to set things up
[20:14] <Dragonath> hmm there is a suspend button on the shutdown menu? how come I never see one? :)
[20:14] <ForsakenSoul> after the 3 or 4 trial :D
[20:15] <flipstar> Dragonath: clock logout first :)
[20:15] <flipstar> err click
[20:15] <ForsakenSoul> raylu ... i should download the source file right :D
[20:15] <Dragonath> I did
[20:16] <raylu> ForsakenSoul, i don't remember. if it's not in the repositories, yes
[20:16] <Dragonath> I only have log out, hibernate, restart and turn off
[20:16] <flipstar> isnt it hibernate ?
[20:16] <ForsakenSoul> yeah there is no repository .. no binary for kubuntu
[20:16] <raylu> er
[20:16] <raylu> what binaries do they have?
[20:16] <Dragonath> well hibernate kills the power to the pc
[20:16] <raylu> you'll never see binary "for kubuntu"
[20:16] <Dragonath> I'm more interested in it staying powered
[20:17] <Dragonath> but to consume less power
[20:17] <flipstar> type laptop-mode start
[20:17] <ForsakenSoul> raylu mybad
[20:17] <ForsakenSoul> didn't see the debian binary
[20:17] <Dragonath> will it actually have any effect as I have a desktop pc? :)
[20:18] <flipstar> guess yes..never tried
[20:18] <Dragonath> heh there is no such command
[20:19] <flipstar>  /etc/init.d/laptop-mode start maybe
[20:20] <Dragonath> google tells me it's part of a toolkit
[20:20] <flipstar> or install laptop-mode-tools
[20:20] <flipstar> then try again :)
[20:21] <Dragonath> turns out suspending isn't so good when your hard drive is active
[20:21] <ForsakenSoul> raylu sorry for bugging you again .. i've installed the deb binary but can't find it anywere in the k menu
[20:21] <flipstar> correct
[20:21] <ForsakenSoul> should i search for the files manualy ?
[20:22] <raylu> ForsakenSoul, i don't remember it appearing either
[20:22] <raylu> i just ran the "kxdocker" command
[20:22] <ForsakenSoul> could not run
[20:22] <ForsakenSoul> just my luck
[20:22] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[20:24] <_Angelus_> guys
[20:24] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: list the files in the deb file and see where it would be installed
[20:24] <_Angelus_> can someone tell me how to recover data from a formated partition?
[20:24] <ForsakenSoul> just what i was thinking of doing
[20:24] <_Angelus_> the filesystem on it is ext3
[20:24] <flipstar> you formated it and want to recover ?
[20:25] <_Angelus_> long story
[20:25] <genii> _Angelus_: What was the filesystem before?
[20:25] <ScorpKing> _Angelus_: try this - http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html
[20:25] <_Angelus_> i want to recover some pictures
[20:25] <_Angelus_> before it was NTFS
[20:26] <genii> _Angelus_: Not much hope I'm afraid. You may want to send it to a data recovery lab if the pictures are super important
[20:27] <_Angelus_> genii: on reiserfs i used to do "reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S /dev/xxx"
[20:27] <_Angelus_> aint there something similar for ext3? :/
[20:27] <ScorpKing> _Angelus_: you could try debugfs as well
[20:28] <genii> ScorpKing: That will only work if he had ext on it before but he did not
[20:28] <ScorpKing> ah right
[20:29] <genii> _Angelus_: If you formatted an ext3 partition with ntfs you would also have an equally difficult time retrieving files from the previous filesystem.
[20:29] <_Angelus_> no
[20:29]  * ScorpKing tries to remember the program he used to recover pictures as much as three OS's installs/formats back..
[20:29] <_Angelus_> i formated an ntfs partition with ext3 genii
[20:30] <ScorpKing> _Angelus_: stay here. i'm just going to see if i can find the program i used last time
[20:30] <_Angelus_> ScorpKing: no no relax dude
[20:30] <_Angelus_> i re-formated the partition with reiserfs
[20:30] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing any idea what dtd dicer-toaster daemon is
[20:30] <flipstar> you can use foremost or photorec to data carve
[20:30] <_Angelus_> and im running reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S /dev/hdb1
[20:30] <_Angelus_> :p
[20:31] <ScorpKing> _Angelus_: found it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk - have fun ;)
[20:32] <ScorpKing> it takes a looong time to get photos but it's pretty good
[20:33]  * genii tries to understand how integrity checking a reiser filesystem will assist in recovering something on an ntfs filesystem which was then formatted over with ext3
[20:34] <ScorpKing> genii: yeah it beats me too ;)
[20:35] <ScorpKing> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Data_Recovery_Examples - testdisk
[20:35] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing have you tried kxdocker ?
[20:35] <ScorpKing> If the partition has been reformated to another filesystem
[20:35] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: nope
[20:35] <ForsakenSoul> ok ...
[20:35] <ForsakenSoul> just want to ask you if you know what Don't forget to tell your system to start the dtd dicer-toaster daemon first, or KXDocker 0.21 won't work
[20:35] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: kooldock and ksmoothdock
[20:36] <ForsakenSoul> should mean :D
[20:36] <ScorpKing> hehe. it should be in some of the docs
[20:36] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing where can i find those 2 docks ?
[20:37] <ScorpKing> !info kooldock
[20:37] <ubotu> kooldock (source: kooldock): Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[20:37] <ScorpKing> !info ksmoothdock
[20:37] <ubotu> Package ksmoothdock does not exist in gutsy
[20:37] <ScorpKing> ksmoothdock needs to be compiled
[20:38] <Dekans> I have a question about performances of gtk apps on kde
[20:38] <Dekans> It seems that firefox takes much more memory on kde
[20:39] <Dekans> I suppose that the quantity shown includes the gtk libraries loaded
[20:39] <Arwen> Dekans, yes, it does
[20:39] <Arwen> it works the same way for QT on GNOME
[20:39] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing some help how do i star up kooldock
[20:40] <ScorpKing> press alt+f2 and type kooldock
[20:40] <flipstar> but better use a version from the website..the package in the repository is quit old
[20:41]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[20:46] <chuck_> hello
[20:47] <dueperdue> hi
[20:48] <dueperdue> i have install xgl-server
[20:48] <dueperdue> for active
[20:48] <dueperdue> KDE effect
[20:48] <dueperdue> but when
[20:48] <dueperdue> I dissinstall him
[20:48] <dueperdue> the effect didn't go away
[20:49] <flipstar> did you restarted X ?
[20:49] <dueperdue> yes, i have restard Kubuntu..
[20:50] <dueperdue> What is "X"?
[20:50] <flipstar> the X-server
[20:50] <dueperdue> haw i did that?
[20:51] <flipstar> with ctrl+alt+backspace but you already did with restarting the pc
[20:52] <dueperdue> I have restar the pc, but the effect don't go away
[20:53] <flipstar> im pretty sure you can disable them somewhere in menu/systemsettings
[20:57] <basy> Hi, sometimes my KDE restarts, wihout i want that action, last time i change song in amarok and kde jumps to login screen..., or during instaltion with adept it jump to login screen, it happends randomly... any ideas plz?
[20:57] <ForsakenSoul> where is the session manager where i define which programs to start with the operating sistem
[20:57] <flipstar> !autostart
[20:57] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[20:58] <ScorpKing> genii: btw, i just managed to delete an recover files with ext3rminator. usage: sudo ext3rminator -d /dev/loop0 -m test2.txt -r tmp/
[20:58] <ScorpKing> and*
[20:58] <flipstar> basy: does X restart when you type glxinfo | grep direct ? you might want to save unsaved data before
[20:58] <trappist> that is one awesome name for an app
[21:00] <ScorpKing> trappist: ext3rminator?
[21:01] <ScorpKing> it's an awesome app as well ;)
[21:01] <trappist> ScorpKing: yeah
[21:03] <ForsakenSoul> flipstar where is the .kde folder ?
[21:04] <flipstar> in $HOME , hidden
[21:04] <ForsakenSoul> found it
[21:04] <flipstar> ~/.kde/ also should work :=)
[21:05] <ForsakenSoul> ther is no files there
[21:05] <flipstar> in autostart ?
[21:05] <ForsakenSoul> yeah
[21:05] <flipstar> in autostart only user applications..
[21:06] <flipstar> do you search for services ?
[21:06] <ForsakenSoul> no i'm looking for a way to make my kooldock to start with the system
[21:06] <ForsakenSoul> to load in the when the system starts
[21:06] <flipstar> so copy kooldock to autostart ..
[21:06] <flipstar> a symlink to kooldock
[21:06] <flipstar> not the binary itself
[21:07] <ForsakenSoul> a symlink ok
[21:10] <ForsakenSoul> flipstar i'm sure you are anoyed by now from my stupid questions ... but i can't find the file which starts kooldock
[21:10] <flipstar> type which kooldock
[21:10] <flipstar> then ln -s ^ $HOME/Autostart
[21:11] <trappist> you mean, ln -s $(which kooldock) ~/.kde/Autostart/
[21:12] <ScorpKing> or echo "/usr/bin/kooldock" > ~/.kde/Autostart/kooldoch.sh
[21:12] <flipstar> ForsakenSoul: listen to the pro's :)
[21:12] <trappist> with no shebang?
[21:12] <ScorpKing> haha flipstar :P
[21:13] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing don't you mean echo "/usr/bin/kooldock" > ~/.kde/Autostart/kooldock.sh
[21:13] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[21:14] <ForsakenSoul> ScorpKing does the K menu in the dock work fo you ?
[21:14] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: ah yes but it won't make a difference ;) i like the fixed spelling more
[21:15] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: perfectly
[21:15] <ForsakenSoul> wow ...
[21:16] <ForsakenSoul> is my pc aways the most screwed one
[21:16] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[21:16] <ForsakenSoul> doesn't work for my any other confs to work
[21:16] <ScorpKing> unless you click it once and then remove the mouse ;) you have to click it again to hide the menu
[21:17] <ForsakenSoul> the menu doens't even show up
[21:17] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: your pc will get better as you use linux for longer
[21:17] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: you have to enable that in the settings
[21:17] <ForsakenSoul> i've enabled k menu in the setting
[21:17] <ScorpKing> ah. weird..
[21:17] <ForsakenSoul> i have the icon but nothing happens when i click on it
[21:18] <ForsakenSoul> btw i've been useing linux since december
[21:18] <ForsakenSoul> but mostly ubuntu and some opengeu
[21:18]  * ScorpKing tells ForsakenSoul's box to behave..
[21:18] <ForsakenSoul> tried opensuse .. but it's not to my liking
[21:19] <ForsakenSoul> well ScorpKing no matter i'll make a custom panel in the left end of my pc to house my K meny :D
[21:19] <ForsakenSoul> K menu*
[21:19] <ScorpKing> ForsakenSoul: or you can just assign a shortcut key combination to it ;)
[21:19] <ForsakenSoul> by the way none of the icons work ... probably have to reinstall the whole thing
[21:21] <Weasel[DK]> Which file controls the loading of plasma apps  at login ?
[21:30] <flipstar> Weasel[DK]: you mean kde4 ?
[21:31] <Fleck> hey i need kernel module ipw3945
[21:31] <Fleck> but it's missing
[21:32] <flipstar> you have linux-restricted-modules installed ?
[21:32] <Fleck> yep
[21:33] <Fleck> linux-restricted-modules is already the newest version.
[21:33] <flipstar> so sudo modprobe ipw3945 doesnt work ?
[21:33] <Fleck> nope
[21:33] <Weasel[DK]> flipstar, yes
[21:33] <flipstar> Fleck: no error ?
[21:33] <Fleck> FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found.
[21:33] <Weasel[DK]> maybe i shold go there
[21:33] <flipstar> right :) #kubuntu-kde4
[21:34] <Weasel[DK]> oh, did't know that one existed... thanks
[21:35] <flipstar> Fleck: what says ls -la /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945
[21:35] <tony_> anyone know how to close the kde4 panel while using kooldock?
[21:35] <fincan> any1 has raid setup with ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:35] <flipstar> yep
[21:36] <Fleck> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 205 2007-04-13 21:33 /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945
[21:36] <flipstar> fincan: i used debootstrap since the installer didnt recognized it
[21:37] <flipstar> Fleck: which kernel you running ?
[21:37] <flipstar> tony #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 related things
[21:37] <Fleck> Linux janis-laptop 2.6.22-14-386 #1 Tue Feb 12 07:12:19 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:38] <flipstar> why not running the general kernel ?
[21:40] <flipstar> Fleck: else you could try downloading the source of the driver and installing
[21:41] <Fleck> i'm running general
[21:41] <Fleck> stock
[21:53] <DJ-KING> where is the linux source build directory?
[21:54] <trappist> DJ-KING: there's not one
[21:54] <DJ-KING> trappist: please elaborate
[21:54] <_Angelus_> guys is it posible to install an ntfs filesystem from linux ?
[21:55] <agresor> yes it is.
[21:55] <flipstar>  /usr/src/ ?
[21:56] <_Angelus_> agresor: how?
[21:56] <flipstar> _Angelus_: you are able to mount ntfs from linux if you mean that
[21:56] <_Angelus_> no
[21:56] <_Angelus_> i want to format a partition with the ntfs file system :p
[21:56] <flipstar> oh
[21:57] <koruldia> youhou me revoilà
[21:57] <flipstar> !fr
[21:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:00] <Fleck> flipstar any suggestions? :(
[22:01] <flipstar> else you could try downloading the source of the driver and installing
[22:02] <flipstar> Fleck: usally restricted manager should recognize it
[22:05] <DaSkreech> ftony
[22:06] <derdui_> Hi does anybody know, how to install the german edition of ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu?
[22:07] <flipstar> just select your language after installation
[22:08] <Fleck> flipstar ok it's there, selected but - not in use warning msg is displayed
[22:08] <lodi> install the ubuntu and esired ubuntu lsnguage packs
[22:08] <flipstar> Fleck: then enable it ...
[22:08] <Fleck> how/
[22:08] <Fleck> ?
[22:08] <flipstar> oh wait it already is checked ?
[22:08] <Fleck> yes
[22:10] <Fleck> i deselected it, and selected again
[22:10] <Fleck> will see
[22:11] <Fleck> ok that didn't help
[22:13] <Fleck> flipstar ? :)
[22:14] <flipstar> yes..?
[22:15] <Fleck> any suggestions flipstar ?
[22:15] <flipstar> nothing i didnt already mentioned
[22:16] <Kr|ptiX> !kopete
[22:16] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[22:16] <flipstar> pidgin rocks
[22:16] <Kr|ptiX> any1 kno why i cant connect to non encrypted connections?
[22:16] <Kr|ptiX> !pidgin
[22:16] <tysine> what would cause me to be able to use the internet, but not able to ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[22:16] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[22:17] <Shadow_mil> pidgin > *
[22:17] <flipstar> Kr|ptiX: check settings..
[22:17] <flipstar> tysine: disabled lo ?
[22:17] <Shadow_mil> tysine: a firewall
[22:17] <Kr|ptiX> !Pidgin
[22:17] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[22:17] <Kr|ptiX> flipstar: settings of wat
[22:17] <flipstar> of kopete..
[22:18] <tysine> lo ? forgive me, im a newb
[22:18] <flipstar> Kr|ptiX: in crypt plugin maybe
[22:18] <Shadow_mil> loopback
[22:18] <Shadow_mil> type ifconfig
[22:18] <Shadow_mil> you should have a interface called lo
[22:18] <tysine> Shadow_mil: im not sure if its a firewall issue
[22:18] <tysine> i see, well i dont :)
[22:18] <flipstar> tysine: type that command about in a konsole
[22:19] <tysine> i guess this is something wrong in my interfaces file?
[22:19] <flipstar> *above
[22:19] <Kr|ptiX> flipstar:idk wat ur talkn bout i was talkn bout connectioning to wireless internet that has no encryption key
[22:19] <Shadow_mil> tysine: type: sudo ifup lo
[22:19] <flipstar> Kr|ptiX: though you talking about kopete,sry
[22:20] <hydrogen> !english | Kr|ptiX
[22:20] <ubotu> Kr|ptiX: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:20] <tysine> cant find interfaces file
[22:20] <Kr|ptiX> lol hydrogen
[22:21] <flipstar> tysine: you get this error when typing ifup lo ?
[22:21] <tysine> flipstar: yes
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> Would it be advisable to install a command line system, add the kde4 repo, then install kde4-core? (kubuntu-kde4 has very low traffic.)
[22:21] <Kr|ptiX> okay i have a  bcm43xx working i can connect to my wpa2 but when tryn to connect to my friends none encrypted router mean he  has no wep key or anything i fail obtaining a ip address
[22:22] <Shadow_mil> tysine: your in trouble
[22:22] <tysine> lovely, how reassuring :)
[22:22] <tysine> i can connect to internet with ethernet, but wifi wont connect
[22:22] <tysine> ...thats another issue i had
[22:23] <tysine> ...but not being able to reach 127.0.0.1 is a bigger issue for me
[22:23] <flipstar> since when you have this error ? what did you do..?
[22:23]  * tysine points to his left and right, 'he did it, not me!'
[22:23] <flipstar> Odd-rationale: you trying to get a kde4 only system ?
[22:23] <tysine> seriously, i dont recall making any change to cause this
[22:24] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: Basically. Or i guess I could wait for hardy...
[22:24] <Shadow_mil> tysine: pastebin the results of ifconfig
[22:25] <tysine> the only thing that changed since it last worked reliably was that i moved from usa to australia, and i am using a differnet router. when i couldnt connect to the router here, i was messing with my interfaces file, and well... i have a few versions of it renamed, but could never get wifi to connect
[22:25] <Shadow_mil> tysine: I am willing to bet your wireless interface has been deleted as well
[22:25] <tysine> ok
[22:25] <Fleck> flipstar current kernel source
[22:26] <tysine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59535/
[22:26] <flipstar> Fleck: im confused..whats about current kernel source ?
[22:26] <Fleck> how to install
[22:27] <Shadow_mil> Fleck: sudo apt-get kernel-headers-version, or something I think
[22:27] <Level15> Hi. when upgrading with aptitude, i get this msg:
[22:27] <Level15> The following packages have been automatically kept back:
[22:27] <Level15>   kdegraphics-kde4
[22:27] <Level15> why does that happen?
[22:27] <Fleck> Shadow_mil i have headers allready
[22:28] <Shadow_mil> tysine: you say your on a land-line?
[22:28] <Shadow_mil> (to your router)
[22:28] <tysine> right now, yes
[22:28] <tysine> eth0
[22:29] <Shadow_mil> tysine: ok you have eth1 which should be your wireless
[22:29] <Fleck> !kernel source
[22:29] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[22:29] <Shadow_mil> it looks like its not connected though
[22:29] <tysine> no, it doesnt want to connect to the router
[22:30] <tysine> knetworkmanager sits there at 28% 'initializing device' forever
[22:30] <tysine> ...eth0 works straight away
[22:31] <Shadow_mil> whoops
[22:31] <Shadow_mil> ok tysine, what program are you using to connect to your router wirelessly (or trying to connect)
[22:32] <tysine> knetworkmanager
[22:32] <Shadow_mil> try installing and using wlassistant
[22:32] <Shadow_mil> I have had problems with knetworkmanager aswell
[22:33] <tysine> ok, ill give that a go
[22:35] <tysine> failed to connect to the router
[22:36] <Shadow_mil> pastebin the results of iwconfig
[22:37] <Fleck> flipstar can't compile module ;(
[22:37] <Fleck> errors and warnings
[22:37] <Fleck> ehh
[22:37] <flipstar> pastebin it ..
[22:38] <tysine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59537/
[22:41] <Shadow_mil> whats the EESID of your network?
[22:42] <tysine> LAN
[22:42] <tysine> creative, huh
[22:43] <asobi> if i am updating amarok, should i close it?
[22:43] <Shadow_mil> tysine: try:   sudo iwconfig eth1 eesid "LAN"
[22:44] <flipstar> asobi: at least you need to restart it to apply the update
[22:44] <Shadow_mil> asobi: no, but like flipstar said, you will need to restart it after the update
[22:45] <asobi> thanks
[22:45] <Shadow_mil> tysine: did that do / say anything?
[22:45] <dcmdcm> Konqueror, browsing SMB shares.  I need to enter user password that's validated by domain server.  Does anyone know the syntax for that?  (I know the information, I just need to know how to enter it!)
[22:47] <tysine> i used the command sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "LAN", and nothing was echoed
[22:47] <Shadow_mil> type iwconfig
[22:47] <Shadow_mil> and see if anything is different
[22:47] <tysine> Shadow_mil:  it is now
[22:48] <tysine> three rows of 0 packets
[22:48] <Shadow_mil> does eth1 have a IP now?
[22:48] <tysine> ...and: tcpdump: pcap_loop: recvfrom: Network is down
[22:49] <tysine> iwconfig is the same
[22:49] <tysine> wifi isnt connected to anything, just landline
[22:49] <Shadow_mil> are you able to connect wirelesses to this router with another PC?
[22:50] <tysine> yes
[22:50] <dariocoll> hi, can i ask you something?
[22:50] <Shadow_mil> ok type:
[22:50] <Shadow_mil> tysine: try:   sudo iwconfig eth1 eesid on
[22:51] <Shadow_mil> then try to use wlassistant to connect
[22:51] <dariocoll> can i ask you a simple question please?
[22:51] <tysine> failed
[22:52] <Shadow_mil> does iwconfig say anything different?
[22:52] <Shadow_mil> dariocoll: don't ask to ask, just ask
[22:52] <tysine> the only change is with this line...
[22:52] <tysine> x excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:72455   Missed beacon:0
[22:52] <tysine> the value there (72455) keeps rising
[22:53] <tysine> thats the tx line
[22:53] <dariocoll> Shadow_mil: ok thanks, my question is: i have installed winxp and kubuntu, and i need to reinstall xp, if i do it, winxp will "eat" the grub? or i will conserve the dual boot?
[22:54] <hola> dariocoll: probably it will clear grub...but ou can backup i
[22:54] <Shadow_mil> dariocoll: winxp will install its own bootloader over grub or any other bootloader you might have, nor can you change this
[22:54] <hydrogen> however, if you boot back onto the kubuntu livecd
[22:54] <hydrogen> you can reinstall grub
[22:55] <dariocoll> how i can reinstall it?
[22:55] <JTBlaze> I'm done with Micro$oft windoze.
[22:55] <dariocoll> i don't want to loose my kubuntu, i have installed compiz and was it dificult for me :p
[22:55] <Shadow_mil> dariocoll: simple answer:   Just turn that xp partition into extra storage :P
[22:55] <JTBlaze> Not going to use it ever ever ever again.
[22:56] <dariocoll> Shadow_mil: i only have 1 hd :S
[22:56] <flipstar> JTBlaze: welcome to Linux :=)
[22:56] <hydrogen> !fixgrub
[22:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:56] <Shadow_mil> dariocoll: ok
[22:56] <JTBlaze> Thanks, Flipstar.
[22:56] <JTBlaze> Dariocoll, I suggest you to partition your HD.
[22:56] <dariocoll> i have it partitioned
[22:56] <Shadow_mil> JTBlaze: he has
[22:57] <tysine> i concur partitioning is good
[22:57] <dariocoll> ( sorry for my bad english please )
[22:57] <JTBlaze> I see...
[22:57] <JTBlaze> Well, turn one partition into NTFS.
[22:57] <JTBlaze> Then install microsoft Windoze over it.
[22:57] <Shadow_mil> tysine: something has turned your network interface into fubar
[22:58] <tysine> yes
[22:58] <JTBlaze> Make sure you move all data from one partition to another..
[22:58] <JTBlaze> To avoid data loss.
[22:58] <tysine> i have a hunch its something to do with interfaces
[22:58] <JTBlaze> Then format into NTFS.
[22:58] <tysine> ...but being a newb, im not sure
[22:58] <JTBlaze> Once formatted and changed into NTFS, install windoze.
[22:59] <JTBlaze> Yes, there's a problem, once Windoze is installed, GRUB is substituted by Window's MBR then Ubuntu is to be installed afterwards
[23:00] <JTBlaze> I suggest you to install Windows first, then install Kubuntu.
[23:00] <hola> JTBlaze: he can do a floppy with grub
[23:00] <JTBlaze> Didn't know that.
[23:00] <hola> JTBlaze: or usb stick
[23:00] <JTBlaze> Ok, OK.
[23:01] <Shadow_mil> tysine: Well you have two main problems:   A. Lo interface is gone... "somehow"    B. Eth1 interface is fubar (or something is wrong with your router / connection)
[23:01] <hola> JTBlaze: last thing..he could use virtual box or someting like that
[23:01] <tysine> agreed
[23:01] <Shadow_mil> tysine: not sure how much help I can be.   Been forever since I have worked with networking
[23:02] <tysine> i actually have a 3rd problem, a more serious one.... im new to linux and cant fix the first 2
[23:02] <Shadow_mil> lol
[23:02] <Shadow_mil> you can fix them
[23:02] <tysine> well, i do appreciate the time you took to help
[23:02]  * Shadow_mil hands tysine google and man
[23:02] <tysine> :)
[23:03] <dariocoll> hola: hablas español?
[23:03] <hola> dariocoll: no
[23:03] <flipstar> stupid question..but did you tried to reinstall ?
[23:03] <JTBlaze> My problem is, my DSL just sucks a major one while using Ubuntu. Firefox, Pidgin, etc give me a hard time trying to connect.
[23:03] <flipstar> dariocoll: yes
[23:03] <flipstar> !es
[23:03] <JTBlaze> But with Kubuntu, it works just fine.
[23:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:03] <dariocoll> hola: ok, sorry :p
[23:03] <dariocoll> yes i know, i know that channel
[23:04] <dariocoll> but there are few people there
[23:04] <dariocoll> not like here
[23:04] <hola> dariocoll: lear english
[23:04] <JTBlaze> Linux doesn't have too much spanish support...
[23:04] <dariocoll> yes, i can speak english
[23:04] <dariocoll> but not at all :p
[23:04] <hola> dariocoll: speak so...
[23:04] <JTBlaze> Everyone prefer windoze XP... Copied... lol
[23:05] <hola> dariocoll: i would like to lear it
[23:05] <dariocoll> to learn what?
[23:05] <dariocoll> spanish?
[23:05] <hola> dariocoll: oh no
[23:05] <hola> english
[23:05] <Jsn> does anyone know how to find out the mac address of my wireless card?  It is currently configured as eth1
[23:05] <dariocoll> but you know speak english.. or so so?
[23:06] <hola> dariocoll: i dont know english
[23:06] <flipstar> Jsn: ifconfig .. ?
[23:06] <hola> dariocoll: i have to learn
[23:06] <dariocoll> just like me...:p
[23:06] <JTBlaze> Just click on the Eth icon on the taskbar, then when the Knetwork manager appears,. move to "addresses" tab.
[23:07] <hola> dariocoll: :)
[23:07] <JTBlaze> the second one, "Hardware" address is most likely, the MAC address
[23:07] <Jsn> flipstar:  that did it. thanks alot!
[23:07] <JTBlaze> You welcome.
[23:08] <JTBlaze> Hola, yo tambien hablo español.
[23:08] <JTBlaze> Y alemán.
[23:08] <JTBlaze> Y Japonés...
[23:09] <dariocoll> who knows how can i get into the list of dispositives?
[23:09] <hola> JTBlaze: are you an expert to configure a webcam
[23:09] <hola> dariocoll: what do you means
[23:09] <JTBlaze> Para usarla en Kopete?
[23:09] <Kr|ptiX> any1 kno how to burn audio cds  in k3b im gettn a error cannot read file an its a mp3
[23:09] <hola> dariocoll: amsn
[23:10] <dariocoll> i mean to get in the Device Manager
[23:10] <Jsn> My wireless card doesn't show up in the system tray, only my wired ethernet adapter.  how do you get it to appear so that you can select a wireless network?
[23:10] <dariocoll> or something like that in k..
[23:10] <JTBlaze> Hola: Download and install Jasper libraries, then try using it.
[23:10] <flipstar> !wireless | Jsn
[23:10] <ubotu> Jsn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:10] <Vermux> how much space kubuntu partition needs, and how much the swap partition ( I have 512MB RAM) ??
[23:10] <hola> JTBlaze: whatis jasper
[23:11] <flipstar> Vermux: i would recommend about 5gig for root partition and 1gig for swap
[23:11] <storbeck> hola, http://www.ece.uvic.ca/~mdadams/jasper/
[23:12] <JTBlaze>  JasPer is a collection of software (i.e., a library and application programs) for the coding and manipulation of images. This software can handle image data in a variety of formats. One such format supported by JasPer is the JPEG-2000 format defined in ISO/IEC 15444-1:2000.
[23:13] <Vermux> the latest version is 7.04?
[23:13] <mixed> I just installed compiz, anyone knows why I have 4 desktops on the taskbar when I only have 2 configured???
[23:13] <Vermux> fiesty?
[23:13] <dariocoll> Jsn: i have kubuntu installed with 1Gb of swap (512mb ram) it's the recomended size, and for the partition..with 10gb its ok, but i have 35gb
[23:13] <hola> JTBlaze: tnk but the problem is that kubuntu does not recognize the cam
[23:13] <dariocoll> Vermux: sorry, that was for vermux
[23:13] <flipstar> Vermux: latest stable is 7.10, gutsy
[23:14] <flipstar> mixed: did you already started compiz ?
[23:15] <Vermux> is it the same if I'll install the 7.04 and then upgrade, or install directly 7.10?
[23:15] <flipstar> yes
[23:16] <Vermux> no stability issiues?
[23:18] <Shadow_mil> when is KDE4 going to be released with kubuntu?
[23:18] <flipstar> with hardy on 8.04
[23:19] <mixed> flipstar, compiz is up and running in my distro, I configured the # of deskstops to 1, Im   seeing 2 in the taskbar
[23:19] <dariocoll> c u guys
[23:19] <Vermux> okkk then
[23:19] <Vermux> so Im installing 7.04 and then will upgrade to 7.1
[23:20] <sebastianbf> hello everyone
[23:20] <Ahriman> nabend hab ne frage kann mir da wer weiterhelfen? ich such ein prog zum mitschneiden von songs aus live streams
[23:20] <sebastianbf> please i need some help
[23:20] <sebastianbf> i cant compile in kubuntu
[23:20] <sebastianbf> and i cant install build-essentials
[23:21] <sebastianbf> it says package not found
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> buil-essential
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> build-essential
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> no 's'
[23:21] <storbeck> apt-get supports tab completion.
[23:21] <sebastianbf> ohhhhhhhhh
[23:21] <sandro_> hi everyone
[23:22] <SlimeyPete> hi, sandro_.
[23:22] <sandro_> im wondering if anyone can explain why if i plug in headphones to my laptop the sound still goes out the main speakers
[23:22] <sebastianbf> thenak slimeypete
[23:22] <sebastianbf> thanks
[23:23] <sebastianbf> oh oh   i need more help
[23:23] <flipstar> sandro_: you might set that in kmix
[23:23] <sebastianbf> im getting an error messange when i ./configure
[23:23] <sebastianbf> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[23:23] <sebastianbf> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[23:23] <sebastianbf> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[23:23] <sandro_> hi flipstar im sorry im relatively new @ kubuntu and linux
[23:24] <tysine> hello, could someone with ethernet eth0 and wifi eth1 please pastebin their interfaces file?
[23:24] <flipstar> sandro_: hi, in taskbar is a speaker symbol..there you can set that
[23:25] <storbeck> tysine, Which interface file are you talking about?
[23:25] <sandro_> ok i see
[23:25] <storbeck> /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:25] <Vermux> the root partition is a primary partition?
[23:26] <flipstar> tysine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59543/
[23:26] <sandro_> hey  flipstar how do i do that?
[23:26] <sandro_> im in kmix settings
[23:27] <sandro_> but i dont see any options
[23:27] <Vermux> the root, swap and home partitions are primary partitions?
[23:28] <flipstar> sandro_: left click on the symbol, then select Mixer
[23:28] <sandro_> yes
[23:29] <sandro_> ive done that i mean
[23:29] <sandro_> i dont see any options that would control if sound goes out only through headphpones
[23:30] <storbeck> sandro, mute front and use PCM
[23:31] <sandro_> storebeck what is PCM? im sorry for being such a newb everyone
[23:32] <storbeck> pcm should be an option in your kmix
[23:33] <storbeck> sandro_, http://www.thecsn.org/headphones.jpg
[23:36] <kkerwin> Hi. I am trying to get KDE 4.0.2's native compositing to work, but am having no luck. My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/madfa361
[23:36] <flipstar> join #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 related things
[23:36] <kkerwin> flipstar: Thank you.
[23:37] <phoenixz> When I start katapult with run program, it takes like 2 minutes to start so I started it from a shell and I get literally thousands of "Ignored double item" messages.. Is this a bug (I suppose so) or if not, how can I fix this?
[23:38] <sandro_> thank you!
[23:39] <storbeck> np
[23:39] <SlimeyPete> phoenixz: might be best to ask in #katapult
[23:39] <SlimeyPete> assuming there is such a channel (seems likely)
[23:39] <tysine> storbeck: yes
[23:40] <tysine> flipstar:  does that interfaces file refer to both your ethernet and wifi adapter?
[23:40] <flipstar> no i dont have wifi
[23:41] <phoenixz> SlimeyPete> heheh.. didn't realized they would have their own channel.. thanks!
[23:41] <SlimeyPete> no problem :)
[23:41] <tysine> do i need t reboot when making changes to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:42] <flipstar> no, just restarting network
[23:42] <flipstar> sudo ifdown -a;sudo ifup -a
[23:43] <storbeck> tysine, Sorry, I don't have that file
[23:43] <Shadow_mil> tysine: hows it going?
[23:44] <tysine> well, i can ping localhost now. i created the file /etc/network/interfaces, and added a line for lo
[23:45] <tysine> next is getting eth1 going
[23:45] <Shadowmil|hentia> tysine: good job.   Best way to learn :P
[23:45] <theunixgeek> Where can I download pdftops and pstopdf from source? Previous versions preferred.
[23:45] <tysine> amen
[23:46] <flipstar> !wifi |you might take a look at this
[23:46] <ubotu> you might take a look at this: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:48] <storbeck> theunixgeek, Search google for xpdf
[23:48] <theunixgeek> storbeck: why? :)
[23:48] <storbeck> Because pdftops is included in xpdf
[23:48] <theunixgeek> storbeck: thanks :)
[23:48] <storbeck> np
[23:49] <xz> hi can someone explain me how to install a tg.tz file_
[23:49] <xz> ?
[23:49] <flipstar> untar,then compile
[23:49] <flipstar> if its a source code
[23:49] <Jsn> i am trying to add wpa to kbuntu by following the guide.  When i go to the internet menu and try to start knetworkmanager, nothing comes up. any ideas/
[23:49] <Jsn> ?
[23:49] <tekteen> !compile | xz
[23:49] <ubotu> xz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:50] <storbeck> tg.tz ?
[23:50] <tekteen> Jsn: wpa is in kubuntu gutsy
[23:50] <Jsn> hmm
[23:50] <theunixgeek> xz: open up terminal
[23:50] <theunixgeek> xz: use cd to go to the directory the file is in
[23:50] <storbeck> I've never seen a tg.tz
[23:50] <Jsn> it doesn't seem to be an option on my wireless card settings
[23:50] <storbeck> Are you sure it's not tar.gz or .tgz ?
[23:50] <tekteen> Jsn: in the knetworkmanager
[23:50] <theunixgeek> storbeck: he probably means "tar.gz"
[23:51] <Jsn> you mean knetworkmanager?
[23:51] <tekteen> Jsn: yep
[23:51] <Jsn> when i try to open it up, nothing happens
[23:52] <tekteen> Jsn: it should ask you what the password is
[23:52] <tekteen> !wpa > me
[23:52] <Jsn> it doesn't
[23:53] <Jsn> the internet menu goes away, as if i've selected to open it, and i get my desktop.
[23:54] <tekteen> Jsn: right click on the knetmanager and then click Connect to Other Wireless Network
[23:54] <jatz> hey problem w/ Kubuntu 6.10 (old I know)
[23:54] <jatz> when I booted after installing it worked fine
[23:55] <xz> i dont really understand
[23:55] <Jsn> i don't have that option when i right click on it from the internet menu.  i only have add item to desktop, main panel, edit item and input into run dialog
[23:55] <lovre> i have a movie im watching with kaffeine. The sound is very very silent, even tho the volume is at max. This is just with this video. Is there a way i can boost audio even more?
[23:55] <jatz> but after booting again the top of the screen was pink and black, it was frozen and then the monitor shut off
[23:55] <tekteen> xz: why are you installing it?
[23:55] <jatz> Freqeunce HV Overscan or somethin
[23:55] <tekteen> xz: what is it
[23:55] <xz> cuz is firefox
[23:56] <xz> and i prefer it than konqueror
[23:56] <tekteen> xz: why not install it from ubuntu
[23:56] <tekteen> it is easy
[23:56] <xz> cuz i have kubuntu
[23:56] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install firefox
[23:56] <tekteen> xz: run that in the konsole ^
[23:56] <xz> now i remember
[23:56] <xz> thanks
[23:57] <storbeck> np
[23:57] <xz> its sais that is not on the sistem
[23:58] <derdui_> !kpakage
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpakage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <storbeck> xz, Did you allow the network repos?
[23:58] <xz> i dont know
[23:58] <xz> whats that_
[23:59] <xz> i really prefer ubuntu
[23:59] <xz> i now how to use it
[23:59] <xz> im not confortable with kubuntu
[23:59] <xz> i think im gonna get back
[23:59] <storbeck> edit your /etc/apt/sources.list