[00:07] mpt, we did a #canonical brainstorm [00:15] ah yes, i now remember that i was going to write another script for launchpad. [00:16] after last release. [00:16] pity i never actually did it [00:27] mpt, were you going to give me feedback? [00:27] mpt, also, should I say something about how to disable your own project? [00:38] kiko, why would you be interested in disabling a project on the *project registration page*? [00:38] mpt, yeah, never mind my nonsense questions. :) [00:39] kiko, I was going to have a go at condensing the text [00:39] mpt, if you take off my friendly edge I will have a hissy fit!! [00:39] If it's short, I think it won't be necessary to put it on a separate page [00:40] mpt, I'm pretty sure it's not going to go on the same page as the form. [00:45] Launchpad has too many pages already [00:45] mpt, I'm not going to mess with projects/+new, seriously [00:45] if you want to help, help me improve the text on that page [00:48] kiko: if a user disables a project they own, what happens to my branches that were categorised under that project? [00:49] jamesh, they disappear too. [00:49] so I lose my code? [00:49] jamesh, I think we should forbid projects from being disabled if they hold branches, tbh [00:49] we could have a way of flagging a project as abandoned -- there's a bug filed === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson === boomer` is now known as boomer === lamont` is now known as lamont === gryc_ is now known as gryc [06:13] hi all. is there somewhere to look for a description of using tags? or would it be project specific (and i'll have to go look in ubuntus docs) [06:25] i found some pages in ubuntu's wiki, so i'll assume its per project [06:27] kgoetz: Yeah, tags mean whatever a product wants them to mean. :) [06:27] :) [08:06] morning === carlos_ is now known as carlos === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [10:38] Fujitsu, thanks. doh! :) [10:39] kiko: What'd I do? [10:39] Fujitsu, point out to me that cprov's bug was a dupe ;) [10:40] kiko: Ah, I like to keep things tidy :) [10:50] Fujitsu, you do indeed! so when does uni start? [10:50] Does bug #157342 want a Soyuz task reopened, then, or is Gavin's task the same thing? [10:50] Launchpad bug 157342 in launchpad "PPA-created SourcePackageNames appear to exist in Ubuntu too" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157342 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap) [10:50] kiko: Last week. [10:56] New bug: #201547 in soyuz "Source package web pages should not traverse to never-published sources (dup-of: 157342)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201547 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk [11:01] thumper: cue my whinging, as requested. [11:02] Hobbsee: Haha. [11:02] thumper: or was i meant to check staging, not edge/ [11:03] Fujitsu, it's the soyuz task on that bug, right [11:03] dead on staging too. [11:03] kiko: Which is Invalid. [11:03] Or was a few minutes ago. [11:03] so, cue the whinging. [11:03] fixed :) [11:03] Danke. [11:04] * Hobbsee wonders why one has to go thru a queue to get onto the mailing list beta team, then another one to actually get a mailing list [11:04] is there 8any8 team that is on that team, taht 8doesn't8 want a mailing list/ [11:05] Hobbsee: X restart time. Yay! [11:05] Fujitsu: yep. once i read the interesting bits of backscroll [11:05] Fujitsu: i'm surprised - i havent' seen this in a while - like, a week. [11:05] I saw it this morning for the first time in a while :( [11:05] * Hobbsee wonders if it was the compiz update or something. [11:05] iirc that's what i last updated [11:06] New bug: #201749 in rosetta "Impossible to mark as needing review strings already transalted or with suggestions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201749 [11:07] hrm. [11:08] now, how do i delete a whole bunch of emails, with no shift key/ [11:09] Ctrl+Alt+Backspace :P [11:09] auto-repeat, I guess [11:16] Fujitsu: doesn't work. idiot. [11:16] Fujitsu: you 8really8 ought to know that. [11:16] Fujitsu: you only had the bug this morning... [11:16] ;0 [11:16] I have DontZap anyway. [11:17] don'tzap/ [11:17] * Hobbsee doesn't know what that is [11:19] * Hobbsee finally goes off to restart x. [11:21] !!! [11:21] there we are. all is good [11:23] I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a very bad thing. === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === salgado-brb is now known as salgado === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell [13:21] New bug: #201782 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Record "email sent"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201782 [13:21] New bug: #201783 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Allow project owners to specify that a product uses an Email Address bug tracker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201783 === cpro1 is now known as cprov [13:33] cprov: Anyway, now that that's fixed... [13:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5654/ [13:34] I presume that the give-back didn't clear the build log, nor the finishing time, when it should have? === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [13:36] Fujitsu: let me check === FreeNode is now known as herb [13:37] Fujitsu: it seems to me that someone has aborted your job manually [13:38] cprov: They may well have, given the circumstances. === salgado is now known as salgado-brb [13:50] New bug: #201792 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Only allow bug contact to forward upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201792 [13:55] New bug: #201793 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Prefilled email" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201793 === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [15:55] hi, lp just sent me a mail stating that a member wants to join a team, however with a mail pointing to edge. should I report a bug? [15:58] hi there. I've just got a nice spam message from bug 200676, could somebody please look at it? thanks [15:58] Launchpad bug 200676 in gnome-system-tools "Swatch Internet Time" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200676 === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:12] When building a package in a PPA, will it look for build-depends in the PPA first? [16:17] cody-somerville, yes. [16:23] The problem with the chroot where it fails to download the Packages.gz from my PPA is a known issue, right? [16:23] it means it's not published your new archive yet [16:24] I activated my PPA eons ago. [16:24] hmm [16:25] bigjools, This is my first upload though [16:25] cody-somerville: The first time you build something for a given distribution in your ppa, it'll probably fail. [16:25] * cody-somerville nods. [16:25] ah ok [16:25] Thats what I thought [16:25] cody-somerville: YEah. Find the build record, click retry build, and you're all set. [16:25] what he said [16:26] cody-somerville: Yes, there's a bug open about it. [16:26] :) [16:26] hi [16:27] I have a short question: Is it possible to stop a service while installing a package? So I'm packaging an app and if this app is installed it needs to stop another service. [16:28] Can I execute /etc/init.d/whatever stop within the postinst-scripts? [16:28] I tried it but it seems not work... [16:28] kiko: got a sec to look at this spam? It even has an image o.O https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/200676/comments/4 [16:28] Launchpad bug 200676 in gnome-system-tools "Swatch Internet Time" [Wishlist,Invalid] [16:30] New bug: #201853 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS recorded executing remote command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201853 [16:38] pochu, gross. :-( === jordi_ is now known as jordi [16:39] pochu, I'm chatting with herb to get it cleaned up. thanks. [16:40] kiko: thanks for looking into it [16:40] I'll let you know if I see it again [16:40] New bug: #201856 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS recorded ssh'ing into bazaar.launchpad.net" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201856 === pochu is now known as dxdx === dxdx is now known as pochu [16:43] :/ [16:45] My build failed because it couldn't find the package haddock but I see it exists just fine === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [17:56] New bug: #201874 in malone "Need ability to apply tag to a collection of bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201874 === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:01] ### launchpad meeting in #launchpad-meeting ### [18:01] be there or be^2 === gmb_ is now known as gmb [18:41] New bug: #201892 in meta-lp-deps "New dependency `devscripts`" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201892 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-dinner [18:55] kiko@anthem:~$ HEAD http://feeds.launchpad.net/~matthew.revell/latest-bugs.atom [18:55] 200 OK [18:55] Cache-Control: max-age=3600 [18:55] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:55:34 GMT [18:55] Via: 1.0 arsenic.canonical.com:3128 (squid/2.6.STABLE16), 1.0 feeds.launchpad.net, 1.0 cache.async.com.br:3128 (squid/2.6.STABLE14) [18:56] neat [18:56] * kiko high-5s herb [19:07] kiko, Can you create the xubuntu-devel team for me please? [19:07] kiko, It is currently locked due to an upload. [19:29] carlos, hey, could you check jockey for template correctness, etc? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/jockey/+pots/jockey/pl/+translate [19:30] I have a feeling I've asked about that before, but it's still not using any translations === Rinchen changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ || Next meeting (all welcome): Thu 20 March 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [19:30] next mtg date [19:32] New bug: #201918 in rosetta ""Overview for translation" page isn't useful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201918 === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [19:44] cody-somerville, sorry, can you clarify? [19:58] are requests for kubuntu is reality free ? [20:00] dgdfgd: yes, Canonical will send you Kubuntu CDs for free. [20:01] yeah ;] [20:03] TomaszD: you told me about the jokey vs jockey problem, I did the fix, but you will need to wait until Sunday - Monday to see the fix rolled out as a new language pack [20:04] carlos, ok cool :] [20:07] how come the 1st email has not been parsed in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 ? [20:08] kiko, The team was auto-created because of an upload [20:08] cody-somerville, okay so far. what would you like me to do? :) [20:08] kiko, Could you create/activate the team? [20:08] cody-somerville, you can: https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Exubuntu-devel/+claimteam [20:09] kiko, I've tried that. [20:09] and? [20:09] kiko, And I was unable to create the team myself :) [20:10] why not? [20:10] kiko, The e-mail never arrived. I imagine it got caught up in the filter since whatever e-mail it was sent from is not a member of the xubuntu-devel mailing list [20:11] same here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [20:12] cody-somerville, I can't really help you unless you can receive email at that address [20:12] cody-somerville, xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com is where we're emailing [20:12] cody-somerville, check with the mailing list admins? [20:12] kiko, https://edge.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+members [20:13] kiko, The ml admin is no longer involved in Xubuntu [20:13] let's fix that! [20:13] :) [20:14] cody-somerville, who's the admin for that list? [20:15] mrpouit at gmail.com, knightlust at ubuntu.com [20:16] so they are both MIA, cody-somerville? [20:16] kiko, I dunno who knightlust@ubuntu.com is [20:17] mrpouit said he is no longer involved in Xubuntu because of political disputes [20:17] However, I'm hoping he'll return at a later date [20:19] cody-somerville, https://edge.launchpad.net/~knightlust [20:19] kiko, I have no idea who that is === andrea-bs is now known as BeeBot === BeeBot is now known as andrea-bs [20:25] cody-somerville, so, nobody administers that list? gar [20:25] cody-somerville, do you want to? [20:25] kiko, Alright. [20:25] cody-somerville, let me file an RT [20:26] cody-somerville, remind me of your email address? [20:26] cody-somerville@ubuntu.com [20:26] :) [20:28] cody-somerville, hang on. can you ask on #canonical-sysadmin first? [20:28] Sure [20:32] cody-somerville, and if you can't get it fixed there, just email rt@ubuntu.com [20:32] kiko, They asked me to mail rt [20:32] cool [20:33] cody-somerville, once that's done, we can either enable that team, or merge it with ~xubuntu-team -- you decide [20:33] kiko, Well, if you see my message to ubuntu-devel [20:33] I was thinking of creating the new team to avoid bug mail for core-devs [20:35] cody-somerville, well, package maintainership doesn't actually cause you to receive bugmail. [20:35] kiko, We have subscribed xubuntu-team to several packages [20:37] cody-somerville, ah, and you don't want that bugmail to go to xubuntu-devel [20:37] gotcha. [20:37] Right [20:37] Because I plan to make ubuntu-core-dev a member [20:37] so that we can have the seeds for Xubuntu owned by that team [20:37] and still allow the core-devs access [20:38] And naturally they don't all want xubuntu bugmail :) [20:48] cody-somerville, gotcha. well, as soon as your RT ticket is sorted ping me (or ask a Question) and I'll help you out [20:48] kiko, thanks [21:15] anybody have any experience with Qt project translations? [21:16] I've got an upstream that has .ts files and would like to use Launchpad for translations [21:24] LaserJock, wow, .ts. can you convert those to gettext? [21:24] I think so [21:24] just found translation-toolkit in the repos [21:25] going to try that out [21:25] translate-toolkit rather [21:27] ok, so I can make a .po out of it [21:27] how do I go from a .po to a .pot? [21:28] LaserJock, there are gettext tools, I'm sure [21:33] carlos: re our email exchange, would it be easier for me to upload the po files via the rosetta interface? that should perform a merge, right? [21:33] carlos: is it possible for me to get permissions for that? [21:34] LaserJock: I wonder if you can just rename em... I thought they are the same formal... maybe do a search for some basic info on the web [21:34] format* [21:34] mdke: we found a bug that would make that upload useless [21:35] mdke: so I need a fix rolled out first [21:35] mdke: hmm, that might work yeah [21:35] carlos: ah, ok. [21:35] LaserJock: carlos will know :) [21:35] carlos: can a project just rename a .po to .pot and upload that to Rosetta? [21:35] LaserJock: a .pot file is a .po file without translations [21:35] right [21:36] but will it choke if there's translations there? [21:36] or should I strip them out [21:36] hmm, I think it may work, but don't expect to work always, given that is not a documented or planned feature... [21:37] you can just delete the translations in something like poedit [21:38] (I think) [21:41] New bug: #201953 in launchpad "csv export of the project group +milestone page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201953 [21:41] carlos, could you check https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/upstart/+imports ? :] [21:43] TomaszD: what do you want me to check? [21:43] there are two files that failed to be imported [21:44] usually, because the translation was already imported [21:44] carlos, yes but rosetta shows the bar as "Newly translated in Launchpad " [21:44] when last edited time is 2007-08-12 [21:45] the bar should be green if the translation was uploaded successfully yes? [21:45] as it indicates "Translation unchanged since last synchronized " [21:45] so apparently it hasn't been synchronized since it was made [21:45] TomaszD: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/200499 [21:45] Launchpad bug 200499 in rosetta "Imported translation from upstream not correctly importing all strings" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Carlos Perelló Marín (carlos) [21:46] oh damn firefox got broken [21:48] carlos: since you're here. I'm asking for an upload of gnome-user-docs and I would like the Ubuntu hardy package to be translateable through rosetta. currently they are blocked, can you unblock them so the pot/po files in the next upload get added? [21:48] mdke: are you going to handle manual package updates? [21:48] carlos: yes [21:49] ok [21:49] carlos: the idea is to enable translation quite late like this, so all the upstream translation gets used [21:49] both templates? [21:49] but there is one quite important ubuntu-specific string [21:49] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gnome-user-docs/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot [21:50] carlos: yes please, although probably there should be a third template too? [21:50] I think the pot files are created at build time [21:51] mdke: not right now [21:51] I can only see two [21:51] i'll try and build and see [21:51] anyway, those are the two important ones [21:52] mdke: I just unblock those, but please, ping me once the right package is uploaded so we can approve them [21:52] carlos: will do [21:52] should be tomorrow, dholbach is a machine with that stuff [21:53] mdke: I will not be around next week, so ask danilo or jtv to do it if it's not ready tomorrow [21:53] sure thing, thanks for the help [21:53] np [21:53] time to sleep... [21:53] good night! === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [21:53] good plan [21:54] ;-) [22:00] New bug: #201963 in launchpad "OpenID identity URL should be shown privately on a users person page" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201963 [23:46] New bug: #201991 in launchpad "Page with stable URL that shows what I have to do for this milestone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201991 [23:46] New bug: #201992 in launchpad "Ubuntu release manager lacks access to freeze the archive" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201992 [23:56] New bug: #201998 in launchpad-bazaar "Typo in merge request review page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201998