[02:17] after the upgrade to .21, do i have to reconfigure my capture cards? [02:17] or card [02:33] so i was using firewire for cable capture... it was card 2 [02:33] after the update, i had to set up the firewire card again in the backend setup and now this new firewire is card 3 [02:33] and it does not work [02:33] :-/ [03:04] has anyone tried to do a fresh install with the latest mythtv .21 parts... using an nvidia card, and closed source drives.. i can't get my upgraded system to play 1080i channels [03:13] anyone know how to get channel icon downloads working in .21? [03:14] the option is greyed out for me [04:31] Well, havign just gone through http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=295, I can confirm that mythtv isn't populating my program listings properly from the schedules direct data. [04:31] s/havign/having [05:42] OMG!!!! [05:42] I just upgraded from 0.20 to 0.21 and my system is all messed up! [05:44] sshirley, hardy? [05:44] i hope its not bug 201673 [05:44] i just got hit by it myself... [05:44] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/201673 [05:44] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722886 [05:48] No. Less severe than that. [05:48] MythVideo won't work and LiveTV plus recordings playback is choppy [05:48] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/322620?search_string=ZN18ConfigurationGroup6byNameE7QString;#322620 [05:49] sshirley: dpkg -l |grep myth [05:49] make sure mythvideo is the same version as everything else, if not sudo apt-get install mythvideo to force it to upgrade [05:50] what cpu does your box have? [05:51] I have a dual-core AMD64 [05:51] sshirley, well make sure on the versions [05:52] that's the most common problem [05:53] Hmmmmm....MythVideo is 0.20.2, MythDVD is 0.20.2 (I know it's going away anyways), mythstream is 0.18. I also have libmyth 0.20.0 AND 0.21.0 [05:53] Plus some themes are different versions [05:53] okay well install mythvideo [05:53] it will remove mythdvd (it's integrated in mythvideo now) [05:53] When I undated, I couldn't click the checkbox for MythVideo for whatever reason [05:54] What about having 2 libmyth versions? [05:54] updated [05:54] it's because it didn't want to lte you remove mythdvd probably [05:54] but it didn't know better:) [05:54] superm1: should put a sticky about that somewhere, people seeing this problem a lot [05:54] the 2 libmyth versions won't do anythign but waste space [05:54] want me to do a forum post about it? [05:54] Ok, so from the command-line? [05:55] i think there is a forum post about it [05:55] rhpot1991: Please do [05:55] ok [05:55] just sticky it or something for the time being [05:55] * rhpot1991 doesn't check the forums enough [05:55] I also heard something about unchecking the nightly build backport repository [05:56] ok, so from the command-line, how would i update mythvideo? [05:56] sudo apt-get install mythvideo [05:56] sshirley, yes do uncheck the weekly build repo. you don't need it anymore [05:56] also from the command-line how do i check which repositories i have? [05:58] are you guys doing current dev against 7.10 or 8.04? [05:58] 8.04 [05:58] sshirley, you'd edit /etc/apt/sources.list [05:58] ubuntu? [05:59] yes [05:59] javatexan: I don't understand what your asking [05:59] deb cdrom:[Mythbuntu 7.10 - amd64 (071021)]/ gutsy main restricted universe [05:59] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy universe multiverse main restricted [05:59] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse [05:59] deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free [05:59] No nightly builds, right? [06:00] or weekly build repo, i mean [06:00] !pastebin | sshirley [06:00] sshirley: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [06:00] please use that in the future [06:00] but no you dont have any weekly stuff there [06:00] Ok, sorry [06:00] i am sorry bad question [06:01] trying to get a dev vm setup and dont want to be behind...sorry [06:01] Cool! [06:02] I haven't said 'yes' yet, but by install mythvideo, it will remove mythdvd and upgrade mythvideo. Also by typing 'apt-get autoremove', it will remove libmyth-0.20 and mkisofs [06:03] Don't I need mkisofs though? [06:03] sshirley, you shouldn't [06:03] and that's fine that you let it do that [06:04] thats what has to happen for mythvideo to work [06:05] javatexan: you can do either mythbuntu or ubuntu, doesn't really matter [06:05] I won't need mkisofs for MythArchive? [06:05] unless you are making ISOs, no [06:05] rhpot1991: okay... [06:06] right.....true [06:06] rhpot1991: which do you prefer for your work [06:06] javatexan: for example I do mythbuntu in my dev vm but ubuntu as my actual OS's and test everything all around [06:06] But now that it has gotten rid of libmyth-0.20 I can reinstall mkisofs if i want to [06:07] javatexan: doesn't really matter, mythbuntu is built on ubuntu [06:07] rhpot1991: cool...once you have ubuntu installed, you then install the control center and then the SVN or do you install just the SVN [06:08] Does mythtv (or mythbuntu) take advantage of multi-core processors? [06:08] sshirley: 0.21 is supposed to [06:08] i guess the db stuff will be easier installing mythtv all at once.....eh? [06:08] I couldn't tell you where the settings are [06:08] Excellent!!!! So I should see some form of performance increase. [06:09] Also the memory footprint has gone down, eh? [06:09] javatexan: I have just been running with the latest weekly trunk builds, but my stuff isn't really integrated into mythtv at this point [06:09] rhpot1991: Believe me, I'll look for it! [06:09] Ok....I'm going to reboot my mythbox and take a look. brb! [06:25] Ok....MythVideo works now. Thanks! [06:25] But LiveTV and recordings playback is still choppy [06:26] sshirley: try playing around with the playback profiles [06:26] they are new in 0.21 and your old settings are modified by them [06:26] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles [06:27] Yeah....I saw those. You mean like 'CPU+', 'CPU++', 'Normal', etc.? [06:27] yep, they added a few more on release as well [06:27] I'm running cpu+ with xvmc forced for HD [06:27] Nice [06:27] cause I have a weak box now [06:28] I'd think you should be fine with out modifying it, but I'm not entirely sure [06:28] I just have SD for right now but a good CPU (2.1Ghz dual-core AMD64) [06:28] maybe you have generic graphics drivers somehow? [06:28] I tried normal as well but that didn't work (so I have only tried CPU+ and Normal) [06:29] No....I recently installed drivers but they are using Mesa somehow and not OpenGL. I still haven't got that fixed. But it worked under 0.20.2 [06:29] sounds like its defaulting to the generic drivers [06:29] check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [06:30] would tell you if something was going wrong in there [06:32] I have: (II) LoadModule: "glx" [06:32] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so [06:32] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [06:32] compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 [06:32] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 [06:32] (==) AIGLX enabled [06:32] (II) Loading extension GLX [06:32] Oooops [06:32] But also: [06:32] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" [06:32] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so [06:32] (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." [06:32] compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.5 [06:32] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [06:33] glx is Mesa? [06:33] fglrx eh?. make sure you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed then [06:36] How can I check that? [06:36] Aaack! When going through that log file I see: [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0 [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 7.1.0.0 [06:36] (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized. [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available * [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* * [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc0000000 FBMappedSize: 0x10000000 [06:36] sshirley: pastebin that stuff [06:36] (==) fglrx(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x10000000) [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): FBMM initialized for area (0,0)-(640,8191) [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): FBMM auto alloc for area (0,0)-(640,480) (front color buffer - assumption) [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): Largest offscreen area available: 640 x 7711 [06:36] (==) fglrx(0): Backing store disabled [06:36] (WW) fglrx(0): Textured Video not supported without DRI enabled. [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): GLESX enableFlags = 10 [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled [06:36] (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled [06:37] (II) fglrx(0): Finished Initialize PPLIB! [06:37] (==) fglrx(0): Silken mouse enabled [06:37] (==) fglrx(0): Using hardware cursor [06:37] sshirley@viihde:~$ [06:37] Sorry about that....I am not in Linux right now [06:37] Oh [06:37] Ok [06:37] rule of thumb is if its longer than 3 lines put it in pastebin [06:37] What kind of formatting [06:37] syntax [06:37] people start to get angry if its spammy [06:38] bash, or leave it empty [06:38] doesn't really matter [06:38] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59448/ [06:38] sshirley, well it looks like you are missing the fglrx kernel module [06:38] make sure that gets loaded [06:39] superm1: With THAT kinda stuff I'm kinda n00b. How can I do that? [06:39] sshirley, well unless you installed it some weird way, it should have been handled for you [06:39] how did you install it? [06:42] http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.3_Driver_Manually [06:43] xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version. [06:44] any reason why you didn't use the restricted driver manager? [06:45] Because the restricted manager didn't have the latest version of the ati drivers for this new card [06:45] ah ok [06:45] ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro [06:46] But I think it's on actually. Hmmm. I might need to investigate that. [06:46] I mean I believe the restricted manager is on [06:47] I wonder if that would be in Ubuntu 8.10 [06:47] I upgraded to .21 yesterday, and I have two isues [06:47] while watching live tv the osd flickers [06:47] thats in both my computers [06:48] and also alt+tab does weird things while Mythtv is on (either using Qt and opengl) (Im using Compiz) [06:48] Ok, rhpo1991....I gotta go to bed. Thanks for all your help! [06:48] np sshirley [06:48] hugolp: flickers like when it fades away? [06:49] rhpot1991: its more like its not solid [06:50] like its on and off really quick [06:50] you dont see the on and off but feel theres flickering [06:50] dont know if flicker is the righ word in english [06:51] the osd is fine while using mythvideo [06:51] and in the first seconds of watching livetv when the screen is black waiting for image, but as soon as image comes in, the osd flearkers [06:51] flickers [06:51] but only in live tv [06:53] hugolp: only osd things I know of is the osd fade checkbox under the playback profiles [06:53] you can try that, but it doesn't sound like your problem, it will studder when it goes to fade away [06:55] no [06:55] it sounds more like a bug [06:55] check the mailing list? [06:55] rhpot1991: what improvements has .21 besides mythweb streaming? [06:55] hugolp: a lot [06:55] cause I am thinking I might go back to .20 [06:55] rhpot1991: like? [06:56] looking to see if I can find you a list [06:56] storage groups is a big one [06:56] upnp [06:56] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.21 [06:59] multirec is good [07:00] I'd say to post in the forums and on the mailing lists [07:00] and see if anyone has an answer, start filing bug reports if not [07:01] rhpot1991: mythbuntu or mythtv directly? [07:04] for what the bugs? [07:05] hugolp: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support [07:05] links for the forums and mailing lists there [07:10] lol...still installing... [07:12] thanks rhpot1991 [07:12] np hugolp [07:37] * tritium wonders why mythtv-doc is about to be uninstalled, not by his choice [08:10] okay...where is the source...I did the latest weeklybuild, but I cant find the mythtv source [08:13] oh well...gotta go to bed for tonight....goodnight [13:40] Nikas === Nikas2 is now known as Nikas [15:36] hello.. just installed mythtv on my ubuntu system and need some help, anyone game? [15:36] dish [15:37] !ask | Beanos [15:37] Beanos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [15:37] roger.. I think I have't set up my mysql properly or something\when I run mythtv-setup it says can't read data base?\ [15:37] as I said, I just installed [15:38] Beanos: maybe you set the mysql root password and are using that instead of the mythtv one? [15:38] haven't done anything radical, just tried to run the setup program. Running kubuntu 7.10 [15:38] no when installing it asked about setting a root pw for mysql, I left it blank [15:38] ok, good [15:39] do I need to initialize the db or something? [15:39] are you sure you have the correct password for your mythtv mysql user then? [15:39] not a clue how do I check? [15:40] well first tell me this, what version of mythtv? [15:40] dpkg -l mythtv-backend [15:40] will tell you that [15:40] standby [15:41] superm1: you here man? [15:41] is there a paste bin here? or just cut and paste to screen? [15:41] !pastebin | Beanos [15:41] Beanos: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [15:42] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59486/ [15:43] thanks rhpot1991_laptop [15:43] Beanos: in that version I believe there is an /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file [15:43] check that [15:43] ok on it standby in /etc? [15:43] /etc/mythtv [15:44] should contain your mysql user and password [15:45] rhpot1991_laptop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59487/ [15:45] so make sure its in the setup and I should be on my way? [15:45] excellent [15:46] yep [15:46] also might not want to pastebin your passwords :P [15:48] true, however.. the machine is standalone, if I get hacked oh well [15:48] Beanos: see if you can modify that pastebin to remove the password, just incase [15:48] lol [15:48] heh, ok [15:49] It has happened, but on a web app === npurciful_ is now known as npurciful [15:59] and it works.. Just need to load the drivers for my carfds and I should be up and running [16:02] any clue where to get the drivers for PVR-500 cards to run under ubuntu? [16:02] Beanos: should work out of the box [16:03] hmm well wen I run the setup it dosn't see the video device [16:03] do I need to create the devices? [16:03] shouldn't need to [16:03] try to sudo modprobe ivtv [16:03] ok [16:04] nad [16:04] nada [16:04] something she is missing? [16:04] errored or ran without saying anything? [16:04] ran without saying anything [16:04] thats a good thing [16:04] try to run setup again? [16:04] try the setup again [16:04] roger [16:07] rhpot1991_laptop: I checked the forums yesterday and didnt find anything about ficklering in the osd, where should I report the bug? [16:07] ok when I designate the capture device, it says failed to probe and no option to add like video0 or anything like that [16:07] hugolp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu [16:08] hugolp: did you post in the forum? [16:08] rhpot1991_laptop: no [16:08] should I? [16:08] hugolp: I'd do that first [16:08] I was lazy cause the registering thing :-P [16:09] might be a simple fix that someone in there could tell you [16:10] I even tried to type /dev/video0 into the line, no joy [16:10] I am missing smehting obviously [16:11] do you have a /dev/video0 and /dev/video1? [16:11] ok in the /dev directory no video [16:11] 1 2 or otherwise [16:12] dmesg |grep ivtv [16:12] hm. and you modprobed ivtv? strange. pastebin the contents of "dmesg" [16:12] and pastebin it [16:12] ok [16:14] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59490/ [16:14] ok that is odd [16:14] I have no firmware directory [16:14] is your system up to date? [16:15] I just installed the software (total install kubuntu 7.10 right before I installed myth [16:15] sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade [16:15] seems the firmware on the capture card is the problem [16:16] odd, that file is 262144 bytes for me [16:16] new version of myth? [16:16] it's in /lib/firmware/$(uname -r) [16:16] directhex|work: I suspect that his box is out of date, if he just installed and didn't upgrade anything off of the cd [16:17] it's not part of myth, it's in the linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r) package [16:18] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59491/ [16:18] well how is ythat for updated? [16:18] mine is 262144 as well [16:18] I didn't install myth until I had already updated it all [16:18] maybe its a kubuntu issue? [16:18] kubuntu has the same kernel as ubuntu [16:19] thats what I thought [16:19] hmm I have nothing in my /lib/firmwatre directory [16:20] I am guessing I need something in there? [16:20] Beanos: do you have the linux-ubuntu-modules package installed? [16:20] Beanos, so install the linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r) package [16:20] Unknown if I have them installed [16:20] try to install then [16:20] apt-get install ??? [16:21] what directhex|work said [16:21] actually, what kernel are you running? (uname -r) [16:21] you should really have the package already, courtesy of the linux-generic or linux-rt or whatever metapackage [16:22] whatever "uname -r" ends with, install "linux-foo", e.g. "linux-generic" [16:22] then try it again [16:22] 2.6.22-14-generic [16:26] well they are not installed [16:26] when I look I get this [16:26] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59493/ [16:26] so off to find the meta-package [16:28] didn't i tell you to install linux-generic, like, 4 minutes ago? [16:29] directhex|work I have it installed, just not the modules [16:30] Beanos, "dpkg -l linux-generic | grep ^ii" shows it's installed? [16:32] directhex|work dpkg shows its not installed installing now [16:41] well its installed, I suppose I need to reboot damn it. be back in a bit [16:44] anyone else realize that mythweb no longer posts the full url? so now after selecting a recording, you can't hit the back button and have to it go right back to the day and time you scheduling for? [17:25] <[_Snarf_]> What does the permissions/owner of the "video storage directory" need to be? For someone reason, my live tv isn't working anymore [17:38] <[_Snarf_]> Getting the error: 2008-03-13 13:30:09.343 SG(Default) Error: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/var/lib/mythtv/', but this directory is not writeable. [17:39] [_Snarf_]: it should be mythtv:mythtv [17:39] and writeable [17:40] <[_Snarf_]> hrmm [17:42] <[_Snarf_]> that's the pits [17:43] [_Snarf_]: what do you have right now? [17:43] <[_Snarf_]> it's mythtv:mythtv [17:44] <[_Snarf_]> but for some reason my live tv isn't working, so I'm going to have to do some deeper digging [17:45] [_Snarf_]: ls -l /var/lib/mythtv [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwsrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 music [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwxrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 pictures [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwsrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-03-12 14:26 recordings [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwxrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 videos [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> why did that change to 4096 [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> stupid computer.. work WITH me, not against me [17:48] [_Snarf_]: did you play with the group? [17:48] <[_Snarf_]> chown instead of chmod.. [17:48] sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /var/lib/mythtv [17:51] <[_Snarf_]> how would I go about completely removing mythtv and config files.. I think I want to start fresh with the svn copy [17:53] [_Snarf_]: with synaptic search for mythtv, and select 'completely remove' [17:54] <[_Snarf_]> that dump directories and such? [17:55] I think so. you can check after you remove === [_Snarf_] is now known as TehSnarf [18:13] js-download -page for isos o,O === Nikas2 is now known as Nikas [18:34] TehSnarf, you can do the followng to clear it out: sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv === foxbuntu___ is now known as foxbuntu_laptop === nico_ is now known as camelreef [20:49] good evening from Scotland [20:50] hello gentlemen [20:50] all your alcohol are belong to scotland [20:50] all your mom belong to me [20:51] hmmm [20:52] I can see that I hype of the .21 release passed [20:52] 0.21 is nice [20:52] i've used svn [20:52] it is [20:52] =) [22:22] hi, i tried mythbuntu on hardy. Installed Hardy command-line system. Installed mythbuntu-desktop and mythtv-backend. now my problem: My HDD-access-led is blinking all the time. After stoping mythtv-backend this behavior disappears. IS that a bug?. [22:23] what kind of tv card are you using? [22:23] hauppauge wintv pci [22:24] framegrabber? [22:25] I dont know, I just installed like I said and did nothing else. [22:25] how can I test? [22:25] analog card? dirt cheap? [22:26] yeah sounds like my tvcard... [22:27] not to forget: about 5 years old [22:28] hm. shouldn't be related then. the problem is definitely with the backend and not the frontend? [22:28] somebody the other day was complaining about a big memory leak.... could be swap filling up? [22:29] no, swap is empty. [22:30] copyofjohan: is the backend running now? [22:30] yes [22:31] upnp? [22:31] hi, when I change the go to settings -> aspect and re-render the them, then alt+tab starts doing very weird things (I am using copmiz) [22:31] anyone having similar problem? [22:32] directhex: Yes I think its the backend. When executing: "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop" the blinkin stops. [22:32] tgm4883_laptop, not sure why the disk could be active for that though [22:33] directhex, sec, i thought i remembered seeing a bug about that [22:33] or maybe that was just a memory leak too [22:34] ok ask about sasc here? [22:34] no [22:34] no [22:34] nor anywhere mythtv related. sasc is actively hated by all mythtv developers [22:35] you can ask about it in #rico42955, although i'm not sure you will get much of an answer [22:35] i understand, so its not something needed to get mythtv working? [22:35] no [22:36] you can run mythtv without it [22:36] I think I found the Problem: mythtv cant connect to MYSQL-Server and is retrying all the time. [22:36] oh [22:36] it's needed to gain illegal access to stolen satellite signals, that's about it [22:37] ah i thought it might help me get mythtv working [22:37] ? [22:37] rico42955, is there a problem with your setup? [22:37] first^^ [22:37] and second [22:38] why if you thought it would help get your mythtv setup working would you ask "ok ask about sasc here?" [22:38] i've installed it but don't have any short cuts to start it [22:40] from what i've been reading about it, yes i know it's nature, i was wondering if a part of it was needed to get a signal from my card [22:40] what card? [22:40]