[02:17] <staind9383> after the upgrade to .21, do i have to reconfigure my capture cards?
[02:17] <staind9383> or card
[02:33] <staind9383> so i was using firewire for cable capture...  it was card 2
[02:33] <staind9383> after the update, i had to set up the firewire card again in the backend setup and now this new firewire is card 3
[02:33] <staind9383> and it does not work
[02:33] <staind9383> :-/
[03:04] <jamesd> has anyone tried to do a fresh install with the latest mythtv .21 parts... using an nvidia card, and closed source drives.. i can't get my upgraded system to play 1080i channels
[03:13] <staind9383> anyone know how to get channel icon downloads working in .21?
[03:14] <staind9383> the option is greyed out for me
[04:31] <tritium> Well, havign just gone through http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=295, I can confirm that mythtv isn't populating my program listings properly from the schedules direct data.
[04:31] <tritium> s/havign/having
[05:42] <sshirley> OMG!!!!
[05:42] <sshirley> I just upgraded from 0.20 to 0.21 and my system is all messed up!
[05:44] <superm1> sshirley, hardy?
[05:44] <superm1> i hope its not bug 201673
[05:44] <superm1> i just got hit by it myself...
[05:44] <superm1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/201673
[05:44] <superm1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722886
[05:48] <sshirley> No. Less severe than that.
[05:48] <sshirley> MythVideo won't work and LiveTV plus recordings playback is choppy
[05:48] <sshirley> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/322620?search_string=ZN18ConfigurationGroup6byNameE7QString;#322620
[05:49] <rhpot1991> sshirley: dpkg -l |grep myth
[05:49] <rhpot1991> make sure mythvideo is the same version as everything else, if not sudo apt-get install mythvideo to force it to upgrade
[05:50] <rhpot1991> what cpu does your box have?
[05:51] <sshirley> I have a dual-core AMD64
[05:51] <superm1> sshirley, well make sure on the versions
[05:52] <superm1> that's the most common problem
[05:53] <sshirley> Hmmmmm....MythVideo is 0.20.2, MythDVD is 0.20.2 (I know it's going away anyways), mythstream is 0.18. I also have libmyth 0.20.0 AND 0.21.0
[05:53] <sshirley> Plus some themes are different versions
[05:53] <superm1> okay well install mythvideo
[05:53] <superm1> it will remove mythdvd (it's integrated in mythvideo now)
[05:53] <sshirley> When I undated, I couldn't click the checkbox for MythVideo for whatever reason
[05:54] <sshirley> What about having 2 libmyth versions?
[05:54] <sshirley> updated
[05:54] <superm1> it's because it didn't want to lte you remove mythdvd probably
[05:54] <superm1> but it didn't know better:)
[05:54] <rhpot1991> superm1: should put a sticky about that somewhere, people seeing this problem a lot
[05:54] <superm1> the 2 libmyth versions won't do anythign but waste space
[05:54] <rhpot1991> want me to do a forum post about it?
[05:54] <sshirley> Ok, so from the command-line?
[05:55] <superm1> i think there is a forum post about it
[05:55] <sshirley> rhpot1991: Please do
[05:55] <rhpot1991> ok
[05:55] <rhpot1991> just sticky it or something for the time being
[05:55]  * rhpot1991 doesn't check the forums enough
[05:55] <sshirley> I also heard something about unchecking the nightly build backport repository
[05:56] <sshirley> ok, so from the command-line, how would i update mythvideo?
[05:56] <rhpot1991> sudo apt-get install mythvideo
[05:56] <superm1> sshirley, yes do uncheck the weekly build repo.  you don't need it anymore
[05:56] <sshirley> also from the command-line how do i check which repositories i have?
[05:58] <javatexan> are you guys doing current dev against 7.10 or 8.04?
[05:58] <rhpot1991> 8.04
[05:58] <superm1> sshirley, you'd edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <javatexan> ubuntu?
[05:59] <sshirley> yes
[05:59] <rhpot1991> javatexan: I don't understand what your asking
[05:59] <sshirley> deb cdrom:[Mythbuntu 7.10 - amd64 (071021)]/ gutsy main restricted universe
[05:59] <sshirley> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy universe multiverse main restricted
[05:59] <sshirley> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:59] <sshirley> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[05:59] <sshirley> No nightly builds, right?
[06:00] <sshirley> or weekly build repo, i mean
[06:00] <superm1> !pastebin | sshirley
[06:00] <ubotu> sshirley: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:00] <superm1> please use that in the future
[06:00] <superm1> but no you dont have any weekly stuff there
[06:00] <sshirley> Ok, sorry
[06:00] <javatexan> i am sorry bad question
[06:01] <javatexan> trying to get a dev vm setup and dont want to be behind...sorry
[06:01] <sshirley> Cool!
[06:02] <sshirley> I haven't said 'yes' yet, but by install mythvideo, it will remove mythdvd and upgrade mythvideo. Also by typing 'apt-get autoremove', it will remove libmyth-0.20 and mkisofs
[06:03] <sshirley> Don't I need mkisofs though?
[06:03] <superm1> sshirley, you shouldn't
[06:03] <superm1> and that's fine that you let it do that
[06:04] <superm1> thats what has to happen for mythvideo to work
[06:05] <rhpot1991> javatexan: you can do either mythbuntu or ubuntu, doesn't really matter
[06:05] <sshirley> I won't need mkisofs for MythArchive?
[06:05] <superm1> unless you are making ISOs, no
[06:05] <javatexan> rhpot1991: okay...
[06:06] <sshirley> right.....true
[06:06] <javatexan> rhpot1991: which do you prefer for your work
[06:06] <rhpot1991> javatexan: for example I do mythbuntu in my dev vm but ubuntu as my actual OS's and test everything all around
[06:06] <sshirley> But now that it has gotten rid of libmyth-0.20 I can reinstall mkisofs if i want to
[06:07] <rhpot1991> javatexan: doesn't really matter, mythbuntu is built on ubuntu
[06:07] <javatexan> rhpot1991: cool...once you have ubuntu installed, you then install the control center and then the SVN or do you install just the SVN
[06:08] <sshirley> Does mythtv (or mythbuntu) take advantage of multi-core processors?
[06:08] <rhpot1991> sshirley: 0.21 is supposed to
[06:08] <javatexan> i guess the db stuff will be easier installing mythtv all at once.....eh?
[06:08] <rhpot1991> I couldn't tell you where the settings are
[06:08] <sshirley> Excellent!!!! So I should see some form of performance increase.
[06:09] <sshirley> Also the memory footprint has gone down, eh?
[06:09] <rhpot1991> javatexan: I have just been running with the latest weekly trunk builds, but my stuff isn't really integrated into mythtv at this point
[06:09] <sshirley> rhpot1991: Believe me, I'll look for it!
[06:09] <sshirley> Ok....I'm going to reboot my mythbox and take a look. brb!
[06:25] <sshirley> Ok....MythVideo works now. Thanks!
[06:25] <sshirley> But LiveTV and recordings playback is still choppy
[06:26] <rhpot1991> sshirley: try playing around with the playback profiles
[06:26] <rhpot1991> they are new in 0.21 and your old settings are modified by them
[06:26] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles
[06:27] <sshirley> Yeah....I saw those. You mean like 'CPU+', 'CPU++', 'Normal', etc.?
[06:27] <rhpot1991> yep, they added a few more on release as well
[06:27] <rhpot1991> I'm running cpu+ with xvmc forced for HD
[06:27] <sshirley> Nice
[06:27] <rhpot1991> cause I have a weak box now
[06:28] <rhpot1991> I'd think you should be fine with out modifying it, but I'm not entirely sure
[06:28] <sshirley> I just have SD for right now but a good CPU (2.1Ghz dual-core AMD64)
[06:28] <rhpot1991> maybe you have generic graphics drivers somehow?
[06:28] <sshirley> I tried normal as well but that didn't work (so I have only tried CPU+ and Normal)
[06:29] <sshirley> No....I recently installed drivers but they are using Mesa somehow and not OpenGL. I still haven't got that fixed. But it worked under 0.20.2
[06:29] <rhpot1991> sounds like its defaulting to the generic drivers
[06:29] <rhpot1991> check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:30] <rhpot1991> would tell you if something was going wrong in there
[06:32] <sshirley> I have: (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[06:32] <sshirley>         compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
[06:32] <sshirley>         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
[06:32] <sshirley> (==) AIGLX enabled
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) Loading extension GLX
[06:32] <sshirley> Oooops
[06:32] <sshirley> But also:
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
[06:32] <sshirley> (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
[06:32] <sshirley>         compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.45.5
[06:32] <sshirley>         Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[06:33] <sshirley> glx is Mesa?
[06:33] <superm1> fglrx eh?.  make sure you have xorg-driver-fglrx installed then
[06:36] <sshirley> How can I check that?
[06:36] <sshirley> Aaack! When going through that log file I see:
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 7.1.0.0
[06:36] <sshirley> (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc0000000 FBMappedSize: 0x10000000
[06:36] <rhpot1991> sshirley: pastebin that stuff
[06:36] <sshirley> (==) fglrx(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x10000000)
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): FBMM initialized for area (0,0)-(640,8191)
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): FBMM auto alloc for area (0,0)-(640,480) (front color buffer - assumption)
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): Largest offscreen area available: 640 x 7711
[06:36] <sshirley> (==) fglrx(0): Backing store disabled
[06:36] <sshirley> (WW) fglrx(0): Textured Video not supported without DRI enabled.
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): GLESX enableFlags = 10
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
[06:36] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled
[06:37] <sshirley> (II) fglrx(0): Finished Initialize PPLIB!
[06:37] <sshirley> (==) fglrx(0): Silken mouse enabled
[06:37] <sshirley> (==) fglrx(0): Using hardware cursor
[06:37] <sshirley> sshirley@viihde:~$
[06:37] <sshirley> Sorry about that....I am not in Linux right now
[06:37] <sshirley> Oh
[06:37] <sshirley> Ok
[06:37] <rhpot1991> rule of thumb is if its longer than 3 lines put it in pastebin
[06:37] <sshirley> What kind of formatting
[06:37] <sshirley> syntax
[06:37] <rhpot1991> people start to get angry if its spammy
[06:38] <rhpot1991> bash, or leave it empty
[06:38] <rhpot1991> doesn't really matter
[06:38] <sshirley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59448/
[06:38] <superm1> sshirley, well it looks like you are missing the fglrx kernel module
[06:38] <superm1> make sure that gets loaded
[06:39] <sshirley> superm1: With THAT kinda stuff I'm kinda n00b. How can I do that?
[06:39] <superm1> sshirley, well unless you installed it some weird way, it should have been handled for you
[06:39] <superm1> how did you install it?
[06:42] <sshirley> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.3_Driver_Manually
[06:43] <sshirley> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[06:44] <rhpot1991> any reason why you didn't use the restricted driver manager?
[06:45] <sshirley> Because the restricted manager didn't have the latest version of the ati drivers for this new card
[06:45] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[06:45] <sshirley> ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
[06:46] <sshirley> But I think it's on actually. Hmmm. I might need to investigate that.
[06:46] <sshirley> I mean I believe the restricted manager is on
[06:47] <sshirley> I wonder if that would be in Ubuntu 8.10
[06:47] <hugolp> I upgraded to .21 yesterday, and I have two isues
[06:47] <hugolp> while watching live tv the osd flickers
[06:47] <hugolp> thats in both my computers
[06:48] <hugolp> and also alt+tab does weird things while Mythtv is on (either using Qt and opengl) (Im using Compiz)
[06:48] <sshirley> Ok, rhpo1991....I gotta go to bed. Thanks for all your help!
[06:48] <rhpot1991> np sshirley
[06:48] <rhpot1991> hugolp: flickers like when it fades away?
[06:49] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  its more like its not solid
[06:50] <hugolp> like its on and off really quick
[06:50] <hugolp> you dont see the on and off but feel theres flickering
[06:50] <hugolp> dont know if flicker is the righ word in english
[06:51] <hugolp> the osd is fine while using mythvideo
[06:51] <hugolp> and in the first seconds of watching livetv when the screen is black waiting for image, but as soon as image comes in, the osd flearkers
[06:51] <hugolp> flickers
[06:51] <hugolp> but only in live tv
[06:53] <rhpot1991> hugolp: only osd things I know of is the osd fade checkbox under the playback profiles
[06:53] <rhpot1991> you can try that, but it doesn't sound like your problem, it will studder when it goes to fade away
[06:55] <hugolp> no
[06:55] <hugolp> it sounds more like a bug
[06:55] <rhpot1991> check the mailing list?
[06:55] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  what improvements has .21 besides mythweb streaming?
[06:55] <rhpot1991> hugolp: a lot
[06:55] <hugolp> cause I am thinking I might go back to .20
[06:55] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  like?
[06:56] <rhpot1991> looking to see if I can find you a list
[06:56] <rhpot1991> storage groups is a big one
[06:56] <rhpot1991> upnp
[06:56] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.21
[06:59] <hugolp> multirec is good
[07:00] <rhpot1991> I'd say to post in the forums and on the mailing lists
[07:00] <rhpot1991> and see if anyone has an answer, start filing bug reports if not
[07:01] <hugolp> rhpot1991:  mythbuntu or mythtv directly?
[07:04] <rhpot1991> for what the bugs?
[07:05] <rhpot1991> hugolp: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support
[07:05] <rhpot1991> links for the forums and mailing lists there
[07:10] <javatexan> lol...still installing...
[07:12] <hugolp> thanks rhpot1991
[07:12] <rhpot1991> np hugolp
[07:37]  * tritium wonders why mythtv-doc is about to be uninstalled, not by his choice
[08:10] <javatexan> okay...where is the source...I did the latest weeklybuild, but I cant find the mythtv source
[08:13] <javatexan> oh well...gotta go to bed for tonight....goodnight
[13:40] <MythbuntuGuest18> Nikas
[15:36] <Beanos> hello.. just installed mythtv on my ubuntu system and need some help, anyone game?
[15:36] <surlyjake> dish
[15:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> !ask | Beanos
[15:37] <ubotu> Beanos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:37] <Beanos> roger.. I think I have't set up my mysql properly or something\when I run mythtv-setup it says can't read data base?\
[15:37] <Beanos> as I said, I just installed
[15:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> Beanos: maybe you set the mysql root password and are using that instead of the mythtv one?
[15:38] <Beanos> haven't done anything radical, just tried to run the setup program. Running kubuntu 7.10
[15:38] <Beanos> no when installing it asked about setting a root pw for mysql, I left it blank
[15:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> ok, good
[15:39] <Beanos> do I need to initialize the db or something?
[15:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> are you sure you have the correct password for your mythtv mysql user then?
[15:39] <Beanos> not a clue how do I  check?
[15:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> well first tell me this, what version of mythtv?
[15:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> dpkg -l mythtv-backend
[15:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> will tell you that
[15:40] <Beanos> standby
[15:41] <npurciful_> superm1:  you here man?
[15:41] <Beanos> is there a paste bin here? or just cut and paste to screen?
[15:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> !pastebin | Beanos
[15:41] <ubotu> Beanos: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:42] <Beanos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59486/
[15:43] <Beanos> thanks rhpot1991_laptop
[15:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> Beanos: in that version I believe there is an /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file
[15:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> check that
[15:43] <Beanos> ok on it standby in /etc?
[15:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> /etc/mythtv
[15:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> should contain your mysql user and password
[15:45] <Beanos> rhpot1991_laptop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59487/
[15:45] <Beanos> so make sure its in the setup and I should be on my way?
[15:45] <Beanos> excellent
[15:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[15:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> also might not want to pastebin your passwords :P
[15:48] <Beanos> true, however.. the machine is standalone, if I get hacked oh well
[15:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> Beanos: see if you can modify that pastebin to remove the password, just incase
[15:48] <Beanos> lol
[15:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> heh, ok
[15:49] <Beanos> It has happened, but on a web app
[15:59] <Beanos> and it works.. Just need to load the drivers for my carfds and I should be up and running
[16:02] <Beanos> any clue where to get the drivers for PVR-500 cards to run under ubuntu?
[16:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> Beanos: should work out of the box
[16:03] <Beanos> hmm well wen I run the setup it dosn't see the video device
[16:03] <Beanos> do I need to create the devices?
[16:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> shouldn't need to
[16:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> try to sudo modprobe ivtv
[16:03] <Beanos> ok
[16:04] <Beanos> nad
[16:04] <Beanos> nada
[16:04] <Beanos> something she is missing?
[16:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> errored or ran without saying anything?
[16:04] <Beanos> ran without saying anything
[16:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats a good thing
[16:04] <Beanos> try to run setup again?
[16:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> try the setup again
[16:04] <Beanos> roger
[16:07] <hugolp> rhpot1991_laptop:  I checked the forums yesterday and didnt find anything about ficklering in the osd, where should I report the bug?
[16:07] <Beanos> ok when I designate the capture device, it says failed to probe and no option to add like video0 or anything like that
[16:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> hugolp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[16:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> hugolp: did you post in the forum?
[16:08] <hugolp> rhpot1991_laptop:  no
[16:08] <hugolp> should I?
[16:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> hugolp: I'd do that first
[16:08] <hugolp> I was lazy cause the registering thing :-P
[16:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> might be a simple fix that someone in there could tell you
[16:10] <Beanos> I even tried to type /dev/video0 into the line, no joy
[16:10] <Beanos> I am missing smehting obviously
[16:11] <directhex|work> do you have a /dev/video0 and /dev/video1?
[16:11] <Beanos> ok in the /dev directory no video
[16:11] <Beanos> 1 2 or otherwise
[16:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> dmesg |grep ivtv
[16:12] <directhex|work> hm. and you modprobed ivtv? strange. pastebin the contents of "dmesg"
[16:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> and pastebin it
[16:12] <Beanos> ok
[16:14] <Beanos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59490/
[16:14] <Beanos> ok that is odd
[16:14] <Beanos> I have no firmware directory
[16:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> is your system up to date?
[16:15] <Beanos> I just installed the software (total install kubuntu 7.10 right before I installed myth
[16:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:15] <Beanos> seems the firmware on the capture card is the problem
[16:16] <directhex|work> odd, that file is 262144 bytes for me
[16:16] <Beanos> new version of myth?
[16:16] <directhex|work> it's in /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)
[16:16] <rhpot1991_laptop> directhex|work: I suspect that his box is out of date, if he just installed and didn't upgrade anything off of the cd
[16:17] <directhex|work> it's not part of myth, it's in the linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r) package
[16:18] <Beanos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59491/
[16:18] <Beanos> well how is ythat for updated?
[16:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> mine is 262144 as well
[16:18] <Beanos> I didn't install myth until I had already updated it all
[16:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> maybe its a kubuntu issue?
[16:18] <directhex|work> kubuntu has the same kernel as ubuntu
[16:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats what I thought
[16:19] <Beanos> hmm I have nothing in my /lib/firmwatre directory
[16:20] <Beanos> I am guessing I need something in there?
[16:20] <frank_> Beanos: do you have the linux-ubuntu-modules package installed?
[16:20] <directhex|work> Beanos, so install the linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r) package
[16:20] <Beanos> Unknown if I have them installed
[16:20] <rhpot1991_laptop> try to install then
[16:20] <Beanos> apt-get install ???
[16:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> what directhex|work said
[16:21] <directhex|work> actually, what kernel are you running? (uname -r)
[16:21] <directhex|work> you should really have the package already, courtesy of the linux-generic or linux-rt or whatever metapackage
[16:22] <directhex|work> whatever "uname -r" ends with, install "linux-foo", e.g. "linux-generic"
[16:22] <directhex|work> then try it again
[16:22] <Beanos> 2.6.22-14-generic
[16:26] <Beanos> well they are not installed
[16:26] <Beanos> when I look I get this
[16:26] <Beanos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59493/
[16:26] <Beanos> so off to find the meta-package
[16:28] <directhex|work> didn't i tell you to install linux-generic, like, 4 minutes ago?
[16:29] <Beanos> directhex|work I have it installed, just not the modules
[16:30] <directhex|work> Beanos, "dpkg -l linux-generic | grep ^ii" shows it's installed?
[16:32] <Beanos> directhex|work dpkg  shows its not installed installing now
[16:41] <Beanos> well its installed, I suppose I need to reboot damn it. be back in a bit
[16:44] <tyce_> anyone else realize that mythweb no longer posts the full url?  so now after selecting a recording, you can't hit the back button and have to it go right back to the day and time you scheduling for?
[17:25] <[_Snarf_]> What does the permissions/owner of the "video storage directory" need to be? For someone reason, my live tv isn't working anymore
[17:38] <[_Snarf_]> Getting the error: 2008-03-13 13:30:09.343 SG(Default) Error: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/var/lib/mythtv/', but this directory is not writeable.
[17:39] <frank_> [_Snarf_]: it should be mythtv:mythtv
[17:39] <frank_> and writeable
[17:40] <[_Snarf_]> hrmm
[17:42] <[_Snarf_]> that's the pits
[17:43] <frank_> [_Snarf_]: what do you have right now?
[17:43] <[_Snarf_]> it's mythtv:mythtv
[17:44] <[_Snarf_]> but for some reason my live tv isn't working, so I'm going to have to do some deeper digging
[17:45] <frank_> [_Snarf_]: ls -l /var/lib/mythtv
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwsrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 music
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwxrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 pictures
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwsrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-03-12 14:26 recordings
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> drwxrwxrwx 2 776 mythtv 4096 2008-02-26 01:09 videos
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> why did that change to 4096
[17:47] <[_Snarf_]> stupid computer.. work WITH me, not against me
[17:48] <frank_> [_Snarf_]: did you play with the group?
[17:48] <[_Snarf_]> chown instead of chmod..
[17:48] <frank_> sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /var/lib/mythtv
[17:51] <[_Snarf_]> how would I go about completely removing mythtv and config files.. I think I want to start fresh with the svn copy
[17:53] <frank_> [_Snarf_]: with synaptic search for mythtv, and select 'completely remove'
[17:54] <[_Snarf_]> that dump directories and such?
[17:55] <frank_> I think so. you can check after you remove
[18:13] <Koffa> js-download -page for isos o,O
[18:34] <foxbuntu___> TehSnarf, you can do the followng to clear it out: sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv
[20:49] <camelreef> good evening from Scotland
[20:50] <JThundley> hello gentlemen
[20:50] <JThundley> all your alcohol are belong to scotland
[20:50] <a1fa_> all your mom belong to me
[20:51] <camelreef> hmmm
[20:52] <camelreef> I can see that I hype of the .21 release passed
[20:52] <a1fa_> 0.21 is nice
[20:52] <a1fa_> i've used svn
[20:52] <camelreef> it is
[20:52] <a1fa_> =)
[22:22] <copyofjohan> hi, i tried mythbuntu on hardy. Installed Hardy command-line system. Installed mythbuntu-desktop and mythtv-backend. now my problem: My HDD-access-led is blinking all the time. After stoping mythtv-backend this behavior disappears. IS that a bug?.
[22:23] <directhex> what kind of tv card are you using?
[22:23] <copyofjohan> hauppauge wintv pci
[22:24] <directhex> framegrabber?
[22:25] <copyofjohan> I dont know, I just installed like I said and did nothing else.
[22:25] <copyofjohan> how can I test?
[22:25] <directhex> analog card? dirt cheap?
[22:26] <copyofjohan> yeah sounds like my tvcard...
[22:27] <copyofjohan> not to forget: about 5 years old
[22:28] <directhex> hm. shouldn't be related then. the problem is definitely with the backend and not the frontend?
[22:28] <frank23> somebody the other day was complaining about a big memory leak.... could be swap filling up?
[22:29] <copyofjohan> no, swap is empty.
[22:30] <frank23> copyofjohan: is the backend running now?
[22:30] <copyofjohan> yes
[22:31] <tgm4883_laptop> upnp?
[22:31] <hugolp> hi, when I change the go to settings -> aspect and re-render the them, then alt+tab starts doing very weird things (I am using copmiz)
[22:31] <hugolp> anyone having similar problem?
[22:32] <copyofjohan> directhex: Yes I think its the backend. When executing: "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop" the blinkin stops.
[22:32] <directhex> tgm4883_laptop, not sure why the disk could be active for that though
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, sec, i thought i remembered seeing a bug about that
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop> or maybe that was just a memory leak too
[22:34] <rico42955> ok ask about sasc here?
[22:34] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[22:34] <directhex> no
[22:34] <directhex> nor anywhere mythtv related. sasc is actively hated by all mythtv developers
[22:35] <tgm4883_laptop> you can ask about it in #rico42955, although i'm not sure you will get much of an answer
[22:35] <rico42955> i understand, so its not something needed to get mythtv working?
[22:35] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[22:36] <tgm4883_laptop> you can run mythtv without it
[22:36] <copyofjohan> I think I found the Problem: mythtv cant connect to MYSQL-Server and is retrying all the time.
[22:36] <rico42955> oh
[22:36] <directhex> it's needed to gain illegal access to stolen satellite signals, that's about it
[22:37] <rico42955> ah i thought it might help me get mythtv working
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> rico42955, is there a problem with your setup?
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> first^^
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> and second
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> why if you thought it would help get your mythtv setup working would you ask "ok ask about sasc here?"
[22:38] <rico42955> i've installed it but don't have any short cuts to start it
[22:40] <rico42955> from what i've been reading about it, yes i know it's nature, i was wondering if a part of it was needed to get a signal from my card
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> what card?
[22:40] <rico42955> twinhan 102g
[22:42] <directhex> can't find any such card on twinhan.com
[22:44] <rico42955> yeah i've noticed that, that's what the box says
[22:44] <directhex> also can't find any such identifier on http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TwinHan
[22:49] <rico42955> its about 3 yrs old wondering if its the 1020 it does have the desc. of DST-03T
[22:52] <directhex> do you have a /dev/dvb/adapter0 folder?
[22:53] <rico42955> uh yes
[22:53] <directhex> okay, the tv card is already working then, in theory
[22:54] <directhex> so set it up in mythtv-setup
[22:56] <ahave> hello room. could someone advise me on hardware recomendations (on what to avoid) for an upcoming mythtv project?
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> avoid ati
[22:56] <ahave> my last custom linux box (car pc) i ended up getting not so nice hardware
[22:56] <rico42955> i have tried, it sees the card
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> ahave, what do you plan on doing with it
[22:57] <ahave> tgm4883, HD video play back mostly
[22:57] <ahave> off network of blueray dvd
[22:58] <ahave> tgm4883, cable cards and such might be added at a later date. but for now it will just be a movie media box
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC anything dual core should be able to handle that
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> grab an nvidia 7 or 8 and you should be good to go
[22:59] <tgm4883_laptop> it's been awhile since i built a machine
[22:59] <directhex> rico42955, run through mythtv-setup. complete ALL STEPS, IN ORDER.
[23:00] <directhex> rico42955, make sure you set up the diseqc settings correctly (i.e. tell it you have no diseqc switch if you have no diseqc switch)
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> rico42955, what do you have hooked up to your card?
[23:00] <directhex> i don't know the specifics on diseqc config
[23:00] <ahave> tgm4883_laptop, what about motherboards? anychip sets better than others?
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> err
[23:00] <directhex> ahave, intel's best. nvidia next
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> i want to say i've heard bad tings about via chipsets
[23:00] <directhex> ahave, beyond that, whatever - there's much suck
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> follow what directhex said
[23:01] <directhex> tgm4883, their modern chipsets are fine. it's the athlon era they sucked
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[23:01] <rico42955> I have the card cabled to an old primestar dish
[23:02] <ahave> not to start an intel vs amd war.. but for video codec ... what is a better choice?
[23:02]  * tgm4883_laptop prefers his C2D
[23:10] <rhpot1991> c2d tests better, but is it worth 2x as much is the question
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> dont listen to rhpot1991, he is a hippy
[23:12] <rhpot1991> with a pretty new amd x2 5000+
[23:12] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[23:12] <directhex> depends on what your minmum requirements are
[23:12] <tgm4883_laptop> beats my 3800+
[23:13] <ahave> blueray playbac
[23:13] <directhex> to do european hd, for example, will take at least a 1.8ghz core 2 duo - or about 2.4ghz of amd
[23:13] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: newegg had 6400+'s on sale for a great price, I wanted one
[23:13] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm also sure that amd has caught up by now, but it's really nice that on my C2D the fan barely runs
[23:13] <rhpot1991> but it needs 2x the cooling power and finding a cpu cooler for the antec fusion is a pain already
[23:13] <directhex> blu-ray will need a decent cpu
[23:13] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, see, thats why you need a cooler cpu
[23:13] <rhpot1991> also worth nothing I have some amd and intc stock, and intc is destroying it
[23:13] <tgm4883_laptop> like mine, it has a racing stripe and a fin
[23:14] <tgm4883_laptop> I should really run some sort of benchmark on mine, see how they compare
[23:14] <tgm4883_laptop> rather than how it feels
[23:14] <directhex> tgm4883_laptop, depends on the app. 25% faster on intel in most cases
[23:15] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[23:16] <rhpot1991> directhex there are certain apps the amd cpu's are better at though
[23:16] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, while thats true, it would be nice to know which of my 2 systems are better.  Heck, i dont even know if the two processors are in the same class
[23:16] <directhex> rhpot1991, sure. 99% ram-bound apps, such as modelsim
[23:16] <rhpot1991> and there is always that price difference
[23:17] <directhex> on paper, intel is twice as fast per clock than amd (and only 50% faster for phenom). in practice, that difference is less
[23:17] <rhpot1991> it was $100+ for me to take a step back in the power and get a c2d instead, plus not as nice of a board
[23:35] <ed3120> hello
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask | ed3120
[23:35] <ubotu> ed3120: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:37] <ed3120> I just did a reinstall of 8.04A2 and I want to import my db.  When I perform     sudo mysql -u mythtv -p 'drop database mythconverg'   (the first step of importing the database) I get ERROR 1049 (42000) after entering the correct password
[23:38] <ed3120> a google search says it's a privilege issue, but I'm running it as sudo?
[23:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ed3120, get a newer alpha
[23:38] <tgm4883_laptop> the current one is alpha 4
[23:39] <tgm4883_laptop> secondly
[23:39] <tgm4883_laptop> your problem is the -p, and the sudo
[23:39] <tgm4883_laptop> first question
[23:39] <tgm4883_laptop> did you make a password for the root mysql user?
[23:40] <ed3120> no i did not ...this is a fresh install.
[23:40] <directhex> then don't use -p
[23:40] <directhex> or -u mythtv, infact
[23:40] <ed3120> should i still use sudo?
[23:40] <directhex> just use "sudo mysql"
[23:40] <tgm4883_laptop> and probably not sudo
[23:41] <ed3120> hmmm
[23:41] <ed3120> i tried: mysql 'drop database mythconverg'
[23:42] <ed3120> i tried: mysql -u mythtv 'drop database mythconverg'
[23:42] <ed3120> sudo mysql -u mythtv 'drop database mythconverg'
[23:42] <directhex> so every combo except the one i suggested!
[23:42] <ed3120> sudo mysql 'drop database mythconverg'
[23:42] <Alowishus> no need for sudo since Linux permissions don't play into the equation
[23:42] <directhex> Alowishus, sue they do. uid0 gets full passwordless root access to mysql on ubuntu systems
[23:43] <ed3120> directhex - you mean just go in with "sudo mysql" and run commands from there?
[23:43] <tgm4883_laptop> ed3120, is this db from a .20 install?
[23:43] <Alowishus> mysql -umythtv 'drop database mythconverg'
[23:43] <Alowishus> umm oh wait, -uroot probably
[23:43] <Alowishus> directhex: but you can lie and do 'mysql -uroot' too, no?
[23:44] <directhex> Alowishus, try it.
[23:44] <ed3120> ok.... "mysql -uroot 'drop database mythconverg'" gave me something
[23:44] <ed3120> error 1049 (42000)
[23:45] <ed3120> "mysql -umythtv 'drop database mythconverg'" didn't work
[23:45] <directhex> ed3120, do me a favour and do "show databases"
[23:45] <Alowishus> directhex: yeah, has nothing to do with acutal Unix user id
[23:45] <Alowishus> directhex: mysql -uroot gives me full passwordless root access
[23:45] <Alowishus> directhex: even when run from my standard user account
[23:46] <directhex> how deliciously secure
[23:46] <Alowishus> directhex: hehe it's definitely not, but that's just how MySQL works... out of the box, the root user account is passwordless... msot distros will set up a big WARNING telling you to set one, and I think Ubuntu generally does that with debconf
[23:46] <ed3120> mysql> show databases;
[23:47] <ed3120> just returns:
[23:47] <ed3120> Database
[23:47] <ed3120> information_schmema
[23:47] <Alowishus> ed3120: you could always bypass the drop crap and just do 'mysqladmin -uroot drop mythconverg'
[23:47] <directhex> ed3120, guess why you can't drop mythconverg then
[23:47] <Alowishus> err bypass the mysql command line client I mean
[23:48] <ed3120> i'm guessing because it isn't there?
[23:48] <directhex> ed3120, you guess correctly. that was always the problem. that's what error 1049 is
[23:49] <ed3120> so now i'm trying: "mysql -umythtv 'create database mythconverg'"
[23:49] <ed3120> error again
[23:50] <Alowishus> mythtv user probably can't create databases
[23:50] <ed3120> i'm just trying to follow the db restore at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty
[23:50] <Alowishus> try "mysql -uroot 'create database mythconverg'"
[23:51] <ed3120> error 1049 (42000): unknown database 'create database mythconverg'
[23:51] <Alowishus> ah
[23:51] <Alowishus> that makes sense
[23:51] <Alowishus> the mysql command line expects you to give it a db name before operatinons
[23:51] <Alowishus> try
[23:52] <Alowishus> mysql -uroot mysql 'create database mythconverg'
[23:52] <Alowishus> alternately
[23:52] <Alowishus> mysqladmin -uroot create mythconverg
[23:53] <ed3120> first line just showed the mysql help
[23:53] <ed3120> i guess there was an error
[23:53] <ed3120> second line returned: mysqladmin: CREATE DATABASE failed; error: 'Can't create database 'mythconverg'; database exists'
[23:54] <Alowishus> ok
[23:54] <Alowishus> so it never got dropped
[23:54] <Alowishus> mysqladmin -uroot drop mythconverg
[23:54] <Alowishus> let me know what that says
[23:54] <ed3120> it's asking me if i want to do it
[23:54] <ed3120> i'll answer yes
[23:54] <Alowishus> assuming you have a backup, yes :)
[23:55] <ed3120> ok, i assume now "mysqladmin -uroot create mythconverg"
[23:55] <ed3120> it took that line
[23:56] <Alowishus> yep now you have a clean database
[23:56] <ed3120> now i want to pull in my mythconverg.sql.gz backup file
[23:56] <Alowishus> zcat /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz | mysql -uroot mythconverg
[23:58] <ed3120> it took it without errors
[23:59] <ed3120> i'm restarting the backend now
[23:59] <Alowishus> you should be done then
[23:59] <Alowishus> cool
[23:59] <ed3120> crap one issue