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PiciCan someone unmute ubotu in -bugs00:15
PiciAnd -devel00:15
Picier, -motu00:15
PriceChildi can do motu00:16
PriceChildif ic an find it00:16
mneptokhttp://carmina.ytmnd.com00:23
mneptok(allow it to load, then refresh from cache for audio/video sync)00:23
ubotuIn ubotu, angusb said: :: Hi angusb is away right now00:31
crdlbfyi, I just kicked AstroDanule from #compiz-fusion and he came back with some not-so-nice language02:59
LjLwill keep in mind03:00
ubotuAmaranth called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()03:11
jdongAmaranth: I edited the thread title to use more caps and stuff ;-)03:17
Amaranthcool03:17
tritiumJack_Sparrow: you're too slow ;)03:27
Jack_Sparrow:)03:27
Jack_SparrowI had already typed tyler and had to edit while you got him03:29
tritiumsorry :)03:30
Jack_Sparrowtritium, Are you in offtopic.. polishpaul  was not happy about no-root03:34
tritiumJack_Sparrow: no, I'm not.  Want me to join?03:35
Jack_Sparrowplease check on it..03:35
tritiumLooks like he's gone.03:35
Jack_Sparrownp..03:35
tritiumI'll try to watch03:36
Amaranthjdong: how do i link a forum thread to a bug report?03:48
Amaranthor do people just post that bold crap manually?03:48
jdongAmaranth: apparently if you hit reply there hsould be a textbox near the bottom for you to supply that03:49
tritiumJack_Sparrow: now I remember why I don't regularly stay in #ubuntu-offtopic...03:49
Amaranthjdong: not for me, i guess03:50
jdong:(03:50
Jack_Sparrow:)03:52
nickrudcan't imagine what anyone could find objectionable about offtopic 03:56
tritiumnickrud: good, you can watch the channel then ;)03:57
* nickrud is not an op there (and that is _NOT_ a hint)03:57
tritiumheh03:58
* tritium parts #ubuntu-offtopic (I can't stand it anymore!)04:44
* PriceChild looks in04:49
tritiumblind: who is your friend?05:09
blindnick is Damon, possibly Tramd.. want me to get his mask?05:10
tritiumokay05:10
tritium@btlogin05:10
tritiumWhat's going on with the bantracker?05:11
tritiumblind: no need, I found it in the logs05:13
blindoh, good.05:13
tritiumblind: and if he has no idea why he's banned, he's a fool05:13
blindoh god.05:13
PriceChildtritium: ubotu's been down lately. All should be well now however.05:15
tritiumPriceChild: thanks, there it is.05:15
blindtritium: sorry, he said 'dunno'05:15
blindand then after i came here he announced why05:15
blindthanks, though :P05:16
tritiumblind: he knows why05:16
blindyeah, he certainly does.05:17
blindjust a misunderstanding on my part.05:17
tritiumblind: see http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/13/%23ubuntu.html, look around 04:13.  You'll see what he said.05:18
tritiumblind: anything else?05:22
blindno.05:27
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, SNuxoll said: !freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org07:36
Myrtti!freenas07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freenas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:36
Myrttihmmm07:36
Myrtti@login07:36
ubotuOK07:36
Myrtti!freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org07:37
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, Myrtti said: !freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org07:37
Myrttiokies07:37
Myrttihad to try though07:37
* Myrtti cuts down irc usage08:31
ubotuArthurArchnix called the ops in #ubuntu (waltterilepisto)10:12
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (waltterilepisto)10:12
=== mc44_ is now known as mc44
ubotuIn #ubuntu-uk, DonaldShimoda said: ubotu, my idea is installa the 64 bits version on the SAME machine and reinstalalte ALL the packages i actually have12:47
jussi01!bot > DonaldShimoda12:47
Seeker`where is .ar?12:51
PriceChildSeeker`: argentina?12:51
jussi01aregentina...12:51
jussi01yes12:51
PriceChildPeople in that libc6 breakage thread on the forums don't even know what alphas are, complaining ubuntu shouldn't call pre-release versions alpha.12:52
* Seeker` facedesked when he read that12:52
jussi01what???? LOL, thats the funniest thing of the day for me...12:53
PriceChildhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_hardy_libc6_is_broken/ - WTF?! Who thought that was a good idea? :/12:57
PriceChild'Quick, lets get it to front page of digg so all the hardy alpha testers will see it before they upgrade12:57
PriceChild(Submitted *after* the file was made un-downloadable)12:58
HobbseePriceChild: uh, hwat?12:58
PriceChildHobbsee: hmm?12:58
Hobbsee[23:52] <PriceChild> People in that libc6 breakage thread on the forums don't even know what alphas are, complaining ubuntu shouldn't call pre-release versions alpha.12:58
* Seeker` wonders why we get agrentinians asking for support in -uk12:59
jussi01hehe12:59
HobbseePriceChild: what are they suggesting they get called?12:59
PriceChildHobbsee: I'm not sure, but something how there should be one alpha, right before the beta, right at the end.12:59
HobbseePriceChild: donotuse's, or something?  the release notes already tell you not to use them on production systems!12:59
PriceChild(and only one)12:59
PriceChild(and shouldn't break)13:00
jussi01you should need a lp account to get the alphas...13:00
Seeker`i think they are complaining because previous released had "herd" or "tribe", which *definately* weren't alphas </sarcasm>13:01
Picijussi01: you must not see all the me-too spam on LP lately13:02
PriceChildyeah that's another variation i've seen Seeker` 13:02
Seeker`And now ubuntu has suddenly decided to use "alpha" instead of "<insert group noun here>"13:02
mc44"I disagree in that Ubuntu (and Linux) has been in development for too many years for a "re-install" type bug to be introduced"13:02
* mc44 giggles13:02
* PriceChild is in a bad mood13:02
Seeker`PriceChild: because of the digg /stupidity thing?13:02
* jussi01 hands PriceChild a blue pill13:03
Picinoooo13:04
PriceChildno no, unrelated13:04
PriceChildsilly to get in a bad mood because of things on the intarwebs13:04
* Hobbsee watches one of the guy's spit the dummy over testing13:04
PriceChildsilly to get in a bad mood13:04
Hobbseejussi01: they're too easy to get13:05
Seeker`PriceChild: Ah, I hope whatever has gotten you in a bad mood stops soon :)13:05
HobbseePriceChild: just lock the thread.13:05
PriceChildHobbsee: wanna post a closing statement?13:06
HobbseePriceChild: not overly.  just lock it anyway, and say it's been fixed.13:06
Hobbseecjwatson has some stuff about how to fix it, too13:06
PriceChildits been fixed?13:06
PriceChildhehe look at the warning at the top of http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30513:07
PiciSo they say, but not pushed to the repos yet (or built?)13:07
PiciHobbsee: I asked cjwatson to ping me or another op to put his workaround into the #ubuntu+1 topic13:07
Hobbseei'm not sure if he's finished it yet13:08
Hobbseethe bad one got locked13:08
Hobbseethe new one hasn't built yet13:08
PiciNo, I know he hasnt finished it yet :)13:08
PiciI didnt check the build status, just saw the note on the bug#13:08
PriceChildclosed it... will make my fishfinger sandwiches then post something13:09
Seeker`PriceChild: eww, fish fingers are 'orrible13:09
TheSheepfish have no fingers, they must be artifical or something...13:11
HobbseePici: it's kinda hard to build if the current glibc is broken...13:11
PriceChildHobbsee: the buildds pick up the libc6 update?13:14
PriceChild*picked13:14
HobbseePriceChild: likely.13:15
Hobbseewait13:17
Hobbseehttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=glibc&build_state=all13:17
Hobbseemost are done.13:17
Hobbseejust implement fist-over-IP protocol.13:22
Piciif only13:22
Hobbseeor a new css theme, or something.13:24
Seeker`its worrying how much people require a long trip on the clue train13:24
Seeker`s/much/many13:24
Picisigh13:25
PiciMaybe we should put more caps in !hardy13:25
Seeker`!hardy13:26
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu13:26
Seeker`hmm13:27
Seeker`colours are the answer :D13:27
PiciWe need <marquee><blink> tags13:27
Seeker`and a <spork_in_face>13:28
TheSheepW H I T E S P A C E13:28
TheSheep:D13:28
PriceChildDouble spacing.13:28
Seeker`figlet / toilet13:28
PriceChild(as in between lines, not letters)13:28
PriceChildfiglet!13:28
TheSheep* W * H * I * T * E * S * P * A * C * E *13:28
Picibanner13:28
Seeker`hmm, uni time13:30
Hobbseeyay, figlet!13:31
Pici/echo -o banner hardy is alpha13:31
Seeker`even better, cowsay13:32
* PriceChild resists13:33
HobbseeSeeker`: you can pipe cowsay into figlet.  or the other way around.13:34
Hobbseethis is the kind of thing you learn while at UDS.13:34
PriceChild:D13:34
Picihmm... cowsay `banner $text`13:35
PriceChildgrrr east-coast mainline trains are down... adding 2 hours  to journeys because of 'high wind'13:36
PriceChild'high wind' breaking the lines... this is England!13:36
PriceChildat least it'll all be back for when i go13:37
Seeker`PriceChild: where are you headed?13:40
PriceChildhome home13:41
PriceChildfor a few days at least13:41
Seeker`where is home home?13:42
PriceChildnear birmingham13:42
Seeker`where are you now?13:42
PriceChildyorkshire13:42
Seeker`fair enogh13:42
PriceChildsatisfied? :P13:42
Seeker`right, time to go, or i'll miss my lecture13:42
PriceChildhave fun13:43
Seeker`PriceChild: It'll do for now :P13:43
Seeker`I'm sure I wont :P13:43
Seeker`I've got tai chi tonight though :D13:43
* Seeker` -> gone13:43
Picilibc6 may be fixed and uploaded now, but I gotta run to a meeting, perhaps someone else can fix the topic in #u+1, thanks.14:03
LjLso much for "naah hardy is ok, yeah sure it may break not really"14:10
Seeker`libc 2.7.9 is safe?14:23
Seveas-ubuntu1 isn't14:35
Seeker`hmm14:37
jussi01so -ubuntu2 is?15:19
Piciyes15:19
PiciI just updated the topic in u+1 as well15:19
* Seeker` waits for the gb mirror to update15:19
jussi01se mirror is updated :)15:20
Seeker`Seveas: What are you rewriting ubotu with?15:23
SeveasSeeker`, the blood of 10000 internet trolls15:24
Seeker`Seveas: Is is baseed on an existing bot?15:24
Seveasno15:24
Seeker`ah15:26
Picihm, new peak in ubuntu-devel, probably people looking for fixes on the libc6 error15:33
LjLaside from repeating like parrots that hardy will break, i don't see what more we can do15:35
SeveasPoLjLy wants a cracker :)15:38
Seeker`heh15:39
jussi01meh, my update doesnt even work :(15:42
PiciCan someone unmute  %*!*@ubuntu/bot/ubotu in -bugs?15:46
LjLyes15:47
* nickrud hands polly a cracker15:47
nealmcbthe server team asked me to get an ubotu factoid for "servergui" - here's my proposal:15:48
nealmcbservergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.15:48
Seveasservergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.15:48
Seveas!servergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.15:49
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas15:49
nealmcb:-)15:49
PiciSeveas: Looks just like in #ubuntu-ops-monitor and #ubuntu-irc  15:49
LjLand #xubuntu, removed15:53
Picibod_: How can we help you this morning?15:54
bod_afternoon here ;~) im fine, just seeing how many ops have a 'p' in their name15:55
bod_915:55
Picibod_: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list    will give you a list of all #ubuntu ops15:55
bod_omg, theres a command for everything,. can i grep for 'p' aswell?15:56
Seveasbod_, this channel is for operator issues, if you have no such issues, please leave15:57
bod_sorry15:57
naliothbod_: if there's nothing we can help you with, /topic15:57
* bod_ runs away15:57
jussi01Hmmm, what is the status of the bot? is factoid editing safe? is it business as usual?16:25
Pici!ding16:26
ubotudong16:26
jussi01Pici: it works fine, but I remember Seve.as rant about people adding factoids last time, and I dont really want to have that again16:27
Picijussi01: I dont see why we couldnt add them...16:28
PiciYou could, like, ask him though.16:28
jussi01Seveas: ping!16:28
Seveasjussi01, !pang16:30
jussi01Seveas: see my question a few lines back?16:31
jussi01Seveas: could you please answer that? 16:31
Seveasjussi01, the rant wasn't about editing factoids16:32
Seveasthat's safe :)16:32
PiciAdding stupid factoids?16:32
Seveasthat's not safe16:33
jussi01Seveas: so I safely add an #ubuntustdio specific factoid then? 16:33
SeveasI will hunt you down and kill16:33
Seveasjussi01, I don't see why not 16:33
jussi01Seveas: thank you. just making sure. :)16:33
LjLSeveas: the rant must have been about people with privileges allegedly doing things they never did, huh?16:34
jpatrickafternoon all17:08
PiciHallo17:08
* jpatrick finally got a new free router from ISP17:08
jussi01hehe, its so funny when people join a channel and do !list :P17:19
* Mez reads back and sees bod_'s comments17:33
MezI want some of whatever hes on17:33
PiciIt was one of the most 'out of the blue' things I've seen on here.17:34
* jussi01 hands Mez the red pill17:34
MezIt may be blogged about17:34
Mezbought a smile to my life17:34
jpatrickwhat's so special about 'p'?17:35
MezI dont know :D17:35
Mezbut it was amusing17:35
Jack_SparrowI have a question..  SInce Badger repos are dead, can a user switch to dapper repos and apt-get dist-upgrade ?18:24
PiciJack_Sparrow: Prbably....18:25
Jack_SparrowI thought so..  should he change sources,  apt-get update  then dist-upgrade18:25
PiciI suggest a backup, but it should work18:26
naliothJack_Sparrow: sequential upgrades are the only supported method18:36
Jack_Sparrownalioth,  it is sequential18:36
Jack_Sparrowcomming from badger18:36
Pici5.10->6.0618:37
naliothiow, upgradring from badger to eft is not supported (and will probably fill the box with fail)18:37
naliothJack_Sparrow: yeah, i got your situation.  i'm just expounding for posterity18:37
Picithanks :)18:37
Jack_SparrowHE already failed it...  just wanted something to try18:37
jdongJack_Sparrow: he should be using a graphical upgrader and not dist-upgrade though for the best results18:38
Jack_Sparrowjdong, noted..  he already messed it up.  If we can get him to working Dapper I will be amazed18:40
ompaulmneptok, so at the end of the day I replaced the zyxel with a linksys20:30
ompaulI has internetz20:30
jpatrickompaul: yay!20:34
Mezyay for ingenious hackers20:34
jpatrickompaul: my old router had a fit too, got a new free one20:34
ompauljpatrick, I gotz routerz I will reinstall its blobbyness and see if that sorts it20:34
ompaul!staff | <ToBe> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos20:37
* ompaul growls20:37
ompaulbot free zone :)20:37
PriceChildWhat's happenned to ubotu?20:37
ompaulDave2, Gary, nalioth, vorian  hit me on joining #debian20:38
Dave2thanks20:40
Mezisnt vorian a normal user?20:41
ompaulMez, perhaps with staff memberships also 20:41
Dave2--- [vorian] (i=steve@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.vorian) : http://kubuntu.org20:42
* Dave2 nods20:42
Dave2though you missed PriceChild! *ahem*20:42
Mezompaul, what do you mean "hit" you ?20:42
Dave2it was an on-join spammer20:42
ompaulMez, well let us see what is the complaint - on-join spam and dave2 takes my fun away :'-(20:42
ompaulhehehe20:42
PriceChildyou tell em Dave2 :P20:43
ompaulPriceChild, get some cough mixture for that will ya20:43
ompaulany extras here?20:43
* ompaul looks around does not look like it20:43
ompaulMez, and your curiosity was a bit late they were klined about 8 minutes ago20:48
* ompaul takes out a baseball bat and points it at the offending router20:48
* Mez griins to himself20:48
* Mez is going to have a nice full hard drive tomorrow20:49
ompaulI figure these things don't like (A) baseball bats (B) requests to do funky stuffz20:49
ompaulblob bound numbskulls and we can't even help them when we are interested cos their sekret sauze is all hidden away20:50
ompaulfools20:50
ompaulwe can debug your kit and you won't let us20:50
ompaul(ok to tell the truth s/debug/embedded gnu/linux/)20:51
ompaularrrr20:51
* ompaul does it again20:51
ompaul(ok to tell the truth s/debug/embedded gnu\/linux/)20:51
ompaulSEJeff, how can we help you?22:57
ompaulPriceChild, any ideas on ^^23:02
ompaulI can't find any on the tracker23:02
SEJeffompaul, I'd never heard of this channel and am one of the ops in #ubuntu-hardened23:18
ompaulahh ha23:19
ompaul!cloak23:19
ubotuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks23:19
ompaulI strongly suggest you do that for the purpose of hiding where you are23:20
ompaulthere are idiots out there who think ddos is helpful23:20
ubotuIn ubotu, runemaste644 said: !orly is <reply> YA RLY23:21
LjL!b > runemaste644    (runemaste644, see the private message from Ubotu)23:21
SEJeffompaul, No worries, this office is protected by Prolexic23:22
SEJeffompaul, DDoS can't save them23:22
ompaulwell we would rather not encourage them ;-)23:23
=== ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici
Amaranthdang, i was gonna say "You don't exist"23:30
Pici:D23:30
ompaulAmaranth, look away and Pici will not be there - and when I type see you won't notice that either23:34

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