[00:15] <Pici> Can someone unmute ubotu in -bugs
[00:15] <Pici> And -devel
[00:15] <Pici> er, -motu
[00:16] <PriceChild> i can do motu
[00:16] <PriceChild> if ic an find it
[00:23] <mneptok> http://carmina.ytmnd.com
[00:23] <mneptok> (allow it to load, then refresh from cache for audio/video sync)
[00:31] <ubotu> In ubotu, angusb said: :: Hi angusb is away right now
[02:59] <crdlb> fyi, I just kicked AstroDanule from #compiz-fusion and he came back with some not-so-nice language
[03:00] <LjL> will keep in mind
[03:11] <ubotu> Amaranth called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()
[03:17] <jdong> Amaranth: I edited the thread title to use more caps and stuff ;-)
[03:17] <Amaranth> cool
[03:27] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: you're too slow ;)
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I had already typed tyler and had to edit while you got him
[03:30] <tritium> sorry :)
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, Are you in offtopic.. polishpaul  was not happy about no-root
[03:35] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: no, I'm not.  Want me to join?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> please check on it..
[03:35] <tritium> Looks like he's gone.
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np..
[03:36] <tritium> I'll try to watch
[03:48] <Amaranth> jdong: how do i link a forum thread to a bug report?
[03:48] <Amaranth> or do people just post that bold crap manually?
[03:49] <jdong> Amaranth: apparently if you hit reply there hsould be a textbox near the bottom for you to supply that
[03:49] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: now I remember why I don't regularly stay in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[03:50] <Amaranth> jdong: not for me, i guess
[03:50] <jdong> :(
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:56] <nickrud> can't imagine what anyone could find objectionable about offtopic 
[03:57] <tritium> nickrud: good, you can watch the channel then ;)
[03:57]  * nickrud is not an op there (and that is _NOT_ a hint)
[03:58] <tritium> heh
[04:44]  * tritium parts #ubuntu-offtopic (I can't stand it anymore!)
[04:49]  * PriceChild looks in
[05:09] <tritium> blind: who is your friend?
[05:10] <blind> nick is Damon, possibly Tramd.. want me to get his mask?
[05:10] <tritium> okay
[05:10] <tritium> @btlogin
[05:11] <tritium> What's going on with the bantracker?
[05:13] <tritium> blind: no need, I found it in the logs
[05:13] <blind> oh, good.
[05:13] <tritium> blind: and if he has no idea why he's banned, he's a fool
[05:13] <blind> oh god.
[05:15] <PriceChild> tritium: ubotu's been down lately. All should be well now however.
[05:15] <tritium> PriceChild: thanks, there it is.
[05:15] <blind> tritium: sorry, he said 'dunno'
[05:15] <blind> and then after i came here he announced why
[05:16] <blind> thanks, though :P
[05:16] <tritium> blind: he knows why
[05:17] <blind> yeah, he certainly does.
[05:17] <blind> just a misunderstanding on my part.
[05:18] <tritium> blind: see http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/13/%23ubuntu.html, look around 04:13.  You'll see what he said.
[05:22] <tritium> blind: anything else?
[05:27] <blind> no.
[07:36] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, SNuxoll said: !freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org
[07:36] <Myrtti> !freenas
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freenas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Myrtti> hmmm
[07:36] <Myrtti> @login
[07:36] <ubotu> OK
[07:37] <Myrtti> !freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org
[07:37] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Myrtti said: !freenas is a FreeBSD-based NAS (Network Attached Storage) server, and can serve your files via NFS, CIFS/SMB, AFP, FTP, and SCP/SFTP.  Learn more at http://freenas.org
[07:37] <Myrtti> okies
[07:37] <Myrtti> had to try though
[08:31]  * Myrtti cuts down irc usage
[10:12] <ubotu> ArthurArchnix called the ops in #ubuntu (waltterilepisto)
[10:12] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (waltterilepisto)
[12:47] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-uk, DonaldShimoda said: ubotu, my idea is installa the 64 bits version on the SAME machine and reinstalalte ALL the packages i actually have
[12:47] <jussi01> !bot > DonaldShimoda
[12:51] <Seeker`> where is .ar?
[12:51] <PriceChild> Seeker`: argentina?
[12:51] <jussi01> aregentina...
[12:51] <jussi01> yes
[12:52] <PriceChild> People in that libc6 breakage thread on the forums don't even know what alphas are, complaining ubuntu shouldn't call pre-release versions alpha.
[12:52]  * Seeker` facedesked when he read that
[12:53] <jussi01> what???? LOL, thats the funniest thing of the day for me...
[12:57] <PriceChild> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_hardy_libc6_is_broken/ - WTF?! Who thought that was a good idea? :/
[12:57] <PriceChild> 'Quick, lets get it to front page of digg so all the hardy alpha testers will see it before they upgrade
[12:58] <PriceChild> (Submitted *after* the file was made un-downloadable)
[12:58] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: uh, hwat?
[12:58] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: hmm?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> [23:52] <PriceChild> People in that libc6 breakage thread on the forums don't even know what alphas are, complaining ubuntu shouldn't call pre-release versions alpha.
[12:59]  * Seeker` wonders why we get agrentinians asking for support in -uk
[12:59] <jussi01> hehe
[12:59] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: what are they suggesting they get called?
[12:59] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: I'm not sure, but something how there should be one alpha, right before the beta, right at the end.
[12:59] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: donotuse's, or something?  the release notes already tell you not to use them on production systems!
[12:59] <PriceChild> (and only one)
[13:00] <PriceChild> (and shouldn't break)
[13:00] <jussi01> you should need a lp account to get the alphas...
[13:01] <Seeker`> i think they are complaining because previous released had "herd" or "tribe", which *definately* weren't alphas </sarcasm>
[13:02] <Pici> jussi01: you must not see all the me-too spam on LP lately
[13:02] <PriceChild> yeah that's another variation i've seen Seeker` 
[13:02] <Seeker`> And now ubuntu has suddenly decided to use "alpha" instead of "<insert group noun here>"
[13:02] <mc44> "I disagree in that Ubuntu (and Linux) has been in development for too many years for a "re-install" type bug to be introduced"
[13:02]  * mc44 giggles
[13:02]  * PriceChild is in a bad mood
[13:02] <Seeker`> PriceChild: because of the digg /stupidity thing?
[13:03]  * jussi01 hands PriceChild a blue pill
[13:04] <Pici> noooo
[13:04] <PriceChild> no no, unrelated
[13:04] <PriceChild> silly to get in a bad mood because of things on the intarwebs
[13:04]  * Hobbsee watches one of the guy's spit the dummy over testing
[13:04] <PriceChild> silly to get in a bad mood
[13:05] <Hobbsee> jussi01: they're too easy to get
[13:05] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Ah, I hope whatever has gotten you in a bad mood stops soon :)
[13:05] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: just lock the thread.
[13:06] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: wanna post a closing statement?
[13:06] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: not overly.  just lock it anyway, and say it's been fixed.
[13:06] <Hobbsee> cjwatson has some stuff about how to fix it, too
[13:06] <PriceChild> its been fixed?
[13:07] <PriceChild> hehe look at the warning at the top of http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=305
[13:07] <Pici> So they say, but not pushed to the repos yet (or built?)
[13:07] <Pici> Hobbsee: I asked cjwatson to ping me or another op to put his workaround into the #ubuntu+1 topic
[13:08] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure if he's finished it yet
[13:08] <Hobbsee> the bad one got locked
[13:08] <Hobbsee> the new one hasn't built yet
[13:08] <Pici> No, I know he hasnt finished it yet :)
[13:08] <Pici> I didnt check the build status, just saw the note on the bug#
[13:09] <PriceChild> closed it... will make my fishfinger sandwiches then post something
[13:09] <Seeker`> PriceChild: eww, fish fingers are 'orrible
[13:11] <TheSheep> fish have no fingers, they must be artifical or something...
[13:11] <Hobbsee> Pici: it's kinda hard to build if the current glibc is broken...
[13:14] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: the buildds pick up the libc6 update?
[13:14] <PriceChild> *picked
[13:15] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: likely.
[13:17] <Hobbsee> wait
[13:17] <Hobbsee> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=glibc&build_state=all
[13:17] <Hobbsee> most are done.
[13:22] <Hobbsee> just implement fist-over-IP protocol.
[13:22] <Pici> if only
[13:24] <Hobbsee> or a new css theme, or something.
[13:24] <Seeker`> its worrying how much people require a long trip on the clue train
[13:24] <Seeker`> s/much/many
[13:25] <Pici> sigh
[13:25] <Pici> Maybe we should put more caps in !hardy
[13:26] <Seeker`> !hardy
[13:26] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:27] <Seeker`> hmm
[13:27] <Seeker`> colours are the answer :D
[13:27] <Pici> We need <marquee><blink> tags
[13:28] <Seeker`> and a <spork_in_face>
[13:28] <TheSheep> W H I T E S P A C E
[13:28] <TheSheep> :D
[13:28] <PriceChild> Double spacing.
[13:28] <Seeker`> figlet / toilet
[13:28] <PriceChild> (as in between lines, not letters)
[13:28] <PriceChild> figlet!
[13:28] <TheSheep> * W * H * I * T * E * S * P * A * C * E *
[13:28] <Pici> banner
[13:30] <Seeker`> hmm, uni time
[13:31] <Hobbsee> yay, figlet!
[13:31] <Pici> /echo -o banner hardy is alpha
[13:32] <Seeker`> even better, cowsay
[13:33]  * PriceChild resists
[13:34] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: you can pipe cowsay into figlet.  or the other way around.
[13:34] <Hobbsee> this is the kind of thing you learn while at UDS.
[13:34] <PriceChild> :D
[13:35] <Pici> hmm... cowsay `banner $text`
[13:36] <PriceChild> grrr east-coast mainline trains are down... adding 2 hours  to journeys because of 'high wind'
[13:36] <PriceChild> 'high wind' breaking the lines... this is England!
[13:37] <PriceChild> at least it'll all be back for when i go
[13:40] <Seeker`> PriceChild: where are you headed?
[13:41] <PriceChild> home home
[13:41] <PriceChild> for a few days at least
[13:42] <Seeker`> where is home home?
[13:42] <PriceChild> near birmingham
[13:42] <Seeker`> where are you now?
[13:42] <PriceChild> yorkshire
[13:42] <Seeker`> fair enogh
[13:42] <PriceChild> satisfied? :P
[13:42] <Seeker`> right, time to go, or i'll miss my lecture
[13:43] <PriceChild> have fun
[13:43] <Seeker`> PriceChild: It'll do for now :P
[13:43] <Seeker`> I'm sure I wont :P
[13:43] <Seeker`> I've got tai chi tonight though :D
[13:43]  * Seeker` -> gone
[14:03] <Pici> libc6 may be fixed and uploaded now, but I gotta run to a meeting, perhaps someone else can fix the topic in #u+1, thanks.
[14:10] <LjL> so much for "naah hardy is ok, yeah sure it may break not really"
[14:23] <Seeker`> libc 2.7.9 is safe?
[14:35] <Seveas> -ubuntu1 isn't
[14:37] <Seeker`> hmm
[15:19] <jussi01> so -ubuntu2 is?
[15:19] <Pici> yes
[15:19] <Pici> I just updated the topic in u+1 as well
[15:19]  * Seeker` waits for the gb mirror to update
[15:20] <jussi01> se mirror is updated :)
[15:23] <Seeker`> Seveas: What are you rewriting ubotu with?
[15:24] <Seveas> Seeker`, the blood of 10000 internet trolls
[15:24] <Seeker`> Seveas: Is is baseed on an existing bot?
[15:24] <Seveas> no
[15:26] <Seeker`> ah
[15:33] <Pici> hm, new peak in ubuntu-devel, probably people looking for fixes on the libc6 error
[15:35] <LjL> aside from repeating like parrots that hardy will break, i don't see what more we can do
[15:38] <Seveas> PoLjLy wants a cracker :)
[15:39] <Seeker`> heh
[15:42] <jussi01> meh, my update doesnt even work :(
[15:46] <Pici> Can someone unmute  %*!*@ubuntu/bot/ubotu in -bugs?
[15:47] <LjL> yes
[15:47]  * nickrud hands polly a cracker
[15:48] <nealmcb> the server team asked me to get an ubotu factoid for "servergui" - here's my proposal:
[15:48] <nealmcb> servergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.
[15:48] <Seveas> servergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.
[15:49] <Seveas> !servergui is <reply> Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance.  !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options.
[15:49] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[15:49] <nealmcb> :-)
[15:49] <Pici> Seveas: Looks just like in #ubuntu-ops-monitor and #ubuntu-irc  
[15:53] <LjL> and #xubuntu, removed
[15:54] <Pici> bod_: How can we help you this morning?
[15:55] <bod_> afternoon here ;~) im fine, just seeing how many ops have a 'p' in their name
[15:55] <bod_> 9
[15:55] <Pici> bod_: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list    will give you a list of all #ubuntu ops
[15:56] <bod_> omg, theres a command for everything,. can i grep for 'p' aswell?
[15:57] <Seveas> bod_, this channel is for operator issues, if you have no such issues, please leave
[15:57] <bod_> sorry
[15:57] <nalioth> bod_: if there's nothing we can help you with, /topic
[15:57]  * bod_ runs away
[16:25] <jussi01> Hmmm, what is the status of the bot? is factoid editing safe? is it business as usual?
[16:26] <Pici> !ding
[16:26] <ubotu> dong
[16:27] <jussi01> Pici: it works fine, but I remember Seve.as rant about people adding factoids last time, and I dont really want to have that again
[16:28] <Pici> jussi01: I dont see why we couldnt add them...
[16:28] <Pici> You could, like, ask him though.
[16:28] <jussi01> Seveas: ping!
[16:30] <Seveas> jussi01, !pang
[16:31] <jussi01> Seveas: see my question a few lines back?
[16:31] <jussi01> Seveas: could you please answer that? 
[16:32] <Seveas> jussi01, the rant wasn't about editing factoids
[16:32] <Seveas> that's safe :)
[16:32] <Pici> Adding stupid factoids?
[16:33] <Seveas> that's not safe
[16:33] <jussi01> Seveas: so I safely add an #ubuntustdio specific factoid then? 
[16:33] <Seveas> I will hunt you down and kill
[16:33] <Seveas> jussi01, I don't see why not 
[16:33] <jussi01> Seveas: thank you. just making sure. :)
[16:34] <LjL> Seveas: the rant must have been about people with privileges allegedly doing things they never did, huh?
[17:08] <jpatrick> afternoon all
[17:08] <Pici> Hallo
[17:08]  * jpatrick finally got a new free router from ISP
[17:19] <jussi01> hehe, its so funny when people join a channel and do !list :P
[17:33]  * Mez reads back and sees bod_'s comments
[17:33] <Mez> I want some of whatever hes on
[17:34] <Pici> It was one of the most 'out of the blue' things I've seen on here.
[17:34]  * jussi01 hands Mez the red pill
[17:34] <Mez> It may be blogged about
[17:34] <Mez> bought a smile to my life
[17:35] <jpatrick> what's so special about 'p'?
[17:35] <Mez> I dont know :D
[17:35] <Mez> but it was amusing
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a question..  SInce Badger repos are dead, can a user switch to dapper repos and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:25] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Prbably....
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought so..  should he change sources,  apt-get update  then dist-upgrade
[18:26] <Pici> I suggest a backup, but it should work
[18:36] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: sequential upgrades are the only supported method
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> nalioth,  it is sequential
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> comming from badger
[18:37] <Pici> 5.10->6.06
[18:37] <nalioth> iow, upgradring from badger to eft is not supported (and will probably fill the box with fail)
[18:37] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i got your situation.  i'm just expounding for posterity
[18:37] <Pici> thanks :)
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> HE already failed it...  just wanted something to try
[18:38] <jdong> Jack_Sparrow: he should be using a graphical upgrader and not dist-upgrade though for the best results
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jdong, noted..  he already messed it up.  If we can get him to working Dapper I will be amazed
[20:30] <ompaul> mneptok, so at the end of the day I replaced the zyxel with a linksys
[20:30] <ompaul> I has internetz
[20:34] <jpatrick> ompaul: yay!
[20:34] <Mez> yay for ingenious hackers
[20:34] <jpatrick> ompaul: my old router had a fit too, got a new free one
[20:34] <ompaul> jpatrick, I gotz routerz I will reinstall its blobbyness and see if that sorts it
[20:37] <ompaul> !staff | <ToBe> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos
[20:37]  * ompaul growls
[20:37] <ompaul> bot free zone :)
[20:37] <PriceChild> What's happenned to ubotu?
[20:38] <ompaul> Dave2, Gary, nalioth, vorian  hit me on joining #debian
[20:40] <Dave2> thanks
[20:41] <Mez> isnt vorian a normal user?
[20:41] <ompaul> Mez, perhaps with staff memberships also 
[20:42] <Dave2> --- [vorian] (i=steve@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.vorian) : http://kubuntu.org
[20:42]  * Dave2 nods
[20:42] <Dave2> though you missed PriceChild! *ahem*
[20:42] <Mez> ompaul, what do you mean "hit" you ?
[20:42] <Dave2> it was an on-join spammer
[20:42] <ompaul> Mez, well let us see what is the complaint - on-join spam and dave2 takes my fun away :'-(
[20:42] <ompaul> hehehe
[20:43] <PriceChild> you tell em Dave2 :P
[20:43] <ompaul> PriceChild, get some cough mixture for that will ya
[20:43] <ompaul> any extras here?
[20:43]  * ompaul looks around does not look like it
[20:48] <ompaul> Mez, and your curiosity was a bit late they were klined about 8 minutes ago
[20:48]  * ompaul takes out a baseball bat and points it at the offending router
[20:48]  * Mez griins to himself
[20:49]  * Mez is going to have a nice full hard drive tomorrow
[20:49] <ompaul> I figure these things don't like (A) baseball bats (B) requests to do funky stuffz
[20:50] <ompaul> blob bound numbskulls and we can't even help them when we are interested cos their sekret sauze is all hidden away
[20:50] <ompaul> fools
[20:50] <ompaul> we can debug your kit and you won't let us
[20:51] <ompaul> (ok to tell the truth s/debug/embedded gnu/linux/)
[20:51] <ompaul> arrrr
[20:51]  * ompaul does it again
[20:51] <ompaul> (ok to tell the truth s/debug/embedded gnu\/linux/)
[22:57] <ompaul> SEJeff, how can we help you?
[23:02] <ompaul> PriceChild, any ideas on ^^
[23:02] <ompaul> I can't find any on the tracker
[23:18] <SEJeff> ompaul, I'd never heard of this channel and am one of the ops in #ubuntu-hardened
[23:19] <ompaul> ahh ha
[23:19] <ompaul> !cloak
[23:19] <ubotu> Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[23:20] <ompaul> I strongly suggest you do that for the purpose of hiding where you are
[23:20] <ompaul> there are idiots out there who think ddos is helpful
[23:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, runemaste644 said: !orly is <reply> YA RLY
[23:21] <LjL> !b > runemaste644    (runemaste644, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:22] <SEJeff> ompaul, No worries, this office is protected by Prolexic
[23:22] <SEJeff> ompaul, DDoS can't save them
[23:23] <ompaul> well we would rather not encourage them ;-)
[23:30] <Amaranth> dang, i was gonna say "You don't exist"
[23:30] <Pici> :D
[23:34] <ompaul> Amaranth, look away and Pici will not be there - and when I type see you won't notice that either