[01:49] <Ahmuck> hi.  i want to rip my cd to disk.  what program should i use.  does xubuntu have one by default?
[01:50] <j1mc> hi Ahmuck you can use "sound juicer."
[01:50] <j1mc> it's not installed by default, but is easy to install.
[01:58] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:13] <pc-illiterate> to tech404 and j1mc, thanks for your help guys
[02:13] <pc-illiterate>  if i missed someone...sorry and thanks :D
[02:14] <tech404> your welcome...this is a community of good people... as long as you try to figure it out on your own first people will help
[02:14] <j1mc> pc-illiterate: i remember helping you, but don't remember how i helped... you're still welcome, though.  :)
[02:14] <pc-illiterate> it was tech who finally did but, you tried
[02:14] <tech404> if you really want to get into it you could try finding a local ubuntu group
[02:14] <j1mc> :)
[02:14] <pc-illiterate> do you happen to run a gforce card ?
[02:15] <pc-illiterate> my bios is set-up for pci....it just doesnt like it
[02:15] <tech404> yes i do
[02:15] <tech404> but mines a 8800gt
[02:15] <tech404> 2 of them actually
[02:16] <tech404> what options did it show there?
[02:16] <pc-illiterate> well it tells me to disable all opengl but im lost there and thats where i get stuck and dont want to read further til i figure it out
[02:16] <tech404> usually it says something like on board only, both, and video card only
[02:16] <pc-illiterate> i dl the driver already
[02:16] <tech404> in bios
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> oh in the bios ?
[02:17] <tech404> yes
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> pci and agp..i have it set for pci...always has been
[02:17] <tech404> are you sure your card is pci?
[02:17] <tech404> what was its name again
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> lmao...yes i am
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> mx440se
[02:17] <tech404> that is a old card
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> yes it is
[02:18] <pc-illiterate> works great though
[02:18] <pc-illiterate> only a 200watt ps so im limited
[02:18] <tech404> yeah those emachine ps are tiny
[02:19] <pc-illiterate> i doubt its 200 even. i think they say its a 150 or 175
[02:19] <tech404> but i think you could tep up to a low power current day card if you wanted to
[02:19] <tech404> step*
[02:19] <tech404> and you have 2 hd's as well
[02:19] <tech404> ohh well
[02:19] <pc-illiterate> limited on funds right now. im just going to build a new 1
[02:20] <pc-illiterate> or find a cheap 1 i can hop up
[02:21] <tech404> well i always say build but i will say system 76 makes a good machine if you just want to buy the whole thing
[02:22] <pc-illiterate> ive never built 1 but it cant be too hard
[02:22] <tech404> anyways... when i type in your card name the results say agp... you seem to know what you are talking about but if I was you I would double check that
[02:22] <pc-illiterate> i dont have an agp slot
[02:23] <Turno> my machine is having trouble pulling an ip from my router... it did this before and I don't remember how i solved it... its using the 'tulip' driver... anyone have any idea?
[02:24] <tech404> k
[02:25] <Turno> ... my router shows it in its dhcp clients table though.... but ifconfig never gets an ip
[02:29] <tech404> have your tried 'sudo ifup -a'
[02:30] <Turno> i've tried ifconfig eth0 up/down
[02:30] <Turno> any reboots
[02:30] <Turno> many
[02:30] <Turno> even when i specify an ip address, it isn't reachable
[02:31] <Turno> its my old ass network card, i'm sure
[02:31] <tech404> what does it say about eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:31] <Turno> after it gets it once, it sticks
[02:32] <Turno> hmmm
[02:32] <Turno> auto lo
[02:32] <Turno> iface lo inet loopback
[02:32] <Turno> thats the only lines not commented out
[02:32] <tech404> well there is your problem
[02:33] <Turno> even though ifconfig shows an eth0?
[02:33] <Turno> if i run that without any arguments
[02:33] <Turno> it shows packest received, not many sent
[02:33] <Turno> i may need to set the linkspeed
[02:34] <Turno> sudo ethtool eth0 says
[02:34] <Turno> settings for eth0
[02:34] <Turno> no data available
[02:34] <Turno> hm
[02:35] <Thingus> Do we have a newer version of Audacious for Feisty?
[02:35] <Thingus> The one in the repos is kinda oldish.
[02:35] <Turno> something is apparently seriously wrong with my adapter, even though it was working before i restored this backup... and it was working when the backup was made
[02:37] <Turno> lspci reports its an ADMtek nc100
[02:38] <tech404> is it a laptop?
[02:39] <Turno> desktop
[02:39] <Turno> i found a thread on ubuntuforums
[02:39] <Turno> i'm reading that now
[02:39] <Turno> it has worked before
[02:39] <tech404> can I suggest that you use a manual ip
[02:39] <Turno> it worked earlier today, but xfce wasn't loading, so i restored a backup from 1/20
[02:39] <Turno> i'll try that again
[02:39] <Turno> but it doesn't seem to affect it
[02:41] <pc-illiterate> ok im going to try to figure this out. you guys have a good time
[03:57] <Stryk> Hi, could someone help me with the process of installing Xubuntu?
[06:27] <pc-illiterate> anyone alive in here ?
[06:30] <The-Kernel> yes
[06:30] <pc-illiterate> oh thank god
[06:30] <The-Kernel> What can i do for you good sir.....or ma'am
[06:31] <pc-illiterate> im a guy but not a sir yet ;)
[06:31] <pc-illiterate> i want to install my nvidia card and its an older 1. im having more problems than i can handle
[06:31] <pc-illiterate> im totally new to linux and im lost
[06:32] <The-Kernel> OK, so, what nVidia is it?
[06:32] <The-Kernel> newer or older then 5200?
[06:32] <pc-illiterate> gf4 440mx
[06:32] <The-Kernel> yikes
[06:32] <The-Kernel> sorry dude
[06:32] <pc-illiterate> lol i know
[06:32] <The-Kernel> Linux support for that is pretty much minimal
[06:33] <pc-illiterate> ive tried reading the pages at ubuntu help and im feeling like a 1 year old
[06:33] <The-Kernel> same as with Windows, if you notices on like half of the game today, it shows "Geforce 4 series not supported"
[06:33] <The-Kernel> Dude, its not you
[06:33] <The-Kernel> its the card
[06:33] <pc-illiterate> well nvidia has a driver
[06:33] <pc-illiterate>  i dl it already. i just dont know what to do now
[06:34] <The-Kernel> They so, but it doesn't really work anymore
[06:34] <The-Kernel> OK
[06:34] <pc-illiterate> crap
[06:34] <The-Kernel> so is it a .sh or a .bin?
[06:34] <pc-illiterate> i guess a sh
[06:34] <The-Kernel> if its .sh they type this in on the command line in the dir that the file is
[06:35] <The-Kernel> sudo nvidiafilenamehere.sh
[06:35] <The-Kernel> or
[06:35] <The-Kernel> sudo ./nvidiafilenamehere.sh
[06:35] <pc-illiterate> it says sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.05-pkg1.run
[06:35] <The-Kernel> try this, sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.05-pkg1.run
[06:36] <The-Kernel> in the dir that the file is in
[06:36] <The-Kernel> pc-illiterate, before we install that, run this command and see if it makes the card work
[06:36] <pc-illiterate> now even dumber...how do i enter the command line ?
[06:36] <The-Kernel> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:36] <The-Kernel> oh
[06:36] <The-Kernel> um
[06:36] <pc-illiterate> lol
[06:37] <The-Kernel> Menu -> Accessories -> Terminal
[06:37] <pc-illiterate> ok... that leaves my desltop. how do i get back to it ?
[06:37] <The-Kernel> what?
[06:37] <The-Kernel> leaves your desktop?!
[06:38] <The-Kernel> try this key combo
[06:38] <pc-illiterate> the terminal makes me leave my desktop. i dont know how to get back to it
[06:38] <The-Kernel> ctrl+alt+F7
[06:38] <pc-illiterate> to get back ?
[06:38] <The-Kernel> did that do it?
[06:38] <The-Kernel> yeah
[06:38] <pc-illiterate> i dont know. im on the 1 and only pc here
[06:39] <pc-illiterate> ok...lemme try. be patient. im a pure noob
[06:39] <The-Kernel> do you have a command line right now?
[06:39] <pc-illiterate> no
[06:39] <The-Kernel> What do you have?
[06:40] <pc-illiterate> my desktop. ?
[06:40] <The-Kernel> haha
[06:40] <The-Kernel> ok um, what screen do you see?
[06:40] <pc-illiterate> seriously dude, i was a windows point n clicker
[06:40] <pc-illiterate> xfce
[06:40] <The-Kernel> Seriously dude, you're doing much better then most
[06:41] <The-Kernel> ok
[06:41] <The-Kernel> so, hit this key combo: alt+F2
[06:41] <The-Kernel> a run box should pop up
[06:41] <The-Kernel> does it?
[06:41] <pc-illiterate> yes
[06:42] <The-Kernel> type in bash, and check the "Run In Terminal" box
[06:42] <The-Kernel> then hit "Run"
[06:42] <The-Kernel> oops
[06:42] <The-Kernel> somethings not right....
[06:42] <The-Kernel> is there a bug I don't know about?
[06:43] <pc-illiterate> lol. you didnt say to hit enter
[06:43] <The-Kernel> haha, hey what happened?
[06:43] <pc-illiterate> hey. im laughin anyway
[06:44] <pc-illiterate> ok...bash and clicked
[06:44] <The-Kernel> its a sad thing that you're connected to a router
[06:44] <pc-illiterate> why you wanna help ?
[06:44] <The-Kernel> so do you have the terminal open now?
[06:44] <pc-illiterate> i can be walked thru this. im not real bad with windows
[06:44] <pc-illiterate> yep
[06:44] <The-Kernel> awesome
[06:45] <The-Kernel> type in:
[06:45] <The-Kernel> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:45] <pc-illiterate> no bash right ?
[06:45]  * Stryk needs help installing Xubuntu please.
[06:45] <The-Kernel> right
[06:45] <The-Kernel> Stryk OK
[06:46] <The-Kernel> lol
[06:46] <The-Kernel> somethings not right....
[06:46] <Stryk> I seem to be getting this: http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07444/01-11-07_1531.jpg
[06:46] <Stryk> But I don't know if that's a problem, or what to do next.
[06:46] <Stryk> [This is my first attempt at using Linux.]
[06:47] <pc-illiterate> well that sucked
[06:47] <The-Kernel> pc-illiterate, we'll stay away from the command line
[06:47] <pc-illiterate> i just hit run after the apt-get
[06:47] <The-Kernel> try opening synaptic
[06:48] <pc-illiterate> ok
[06:48] <pc-illiterate> its open. package manager...........
[06:48] <The-Kernel> tell me if that comes up
[06:48] <The-Kernel> nice...
[06:50] <The-Kernel> Stryk did you receive any errors when installing Xubuntu?
[06:50] <Stryk> Uh, I originally received: Buffer I/O error on device fd0
[06:51] <Stryk> But then I think I pressed alt ctrl f4 and it went to looking like: http://xs221.xs.to/xs221/07444/01-11-07_1531.jpg
[06:51] <Stryk> busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7)"
[06:51] <The-Kernel> weird, OK
[06:51] <The-Kernel> I'm in CLI, I can't see images :P
[06:51] <Stryk> Oh. :P
[06:51] <The-Kernel> pc-illiterate did it open?
[06:52] <pc-illiterate> yep
[06:52] <The-Kernel> ok
[06:52] <The-Kernel> search for nvidia-glx and install it
[06:54] <The-Kernel> Stryk so when you're install it, it freezes or something? Or is this AFTER you installed it?
[06:54] <pc-illiterate> i see a glx...glx-dev...glx-leg....glx-leg-dev....glx-new....glx-new-dev
[06:55] <The-Kernel> glx and glx-dec
[06:55] <The-Kernel> glx-dev
[06:55] <The-Kernel> install those two
[06:55] <Stryk> (02:54:30) <The-Kernel> Stryk so when you're install it, it freezes or something? Or is this AFTER you installed it? << I haven't installed it. It's weird. Would you have the time to walk me through it from the beginning? (I can wait if you don't currently.)
[06:55] <The-Kernel> Stryk, sure
[06:56] <The-Kernel> so put the CD in, boot into installation(if its live CD or Alternate thats fine)
[06:56] <Stryk> Let's say I burned the iso onto a bootable DVD, would that work?
[06:56] <The-Kernel> yup
[06:56] <The-Kernel> DVD, CD, same difference
[06:57] <Stryk> Okay, I'm going to be using alternate because the laptop I'm trying to install it on is pretty old.
[06:58] <The-Kernel> Great, I liked Alt anyways
[06:58] <Stryk> Inserted the DVD, restarting laptop.
[06:58] <pc-illiterate> i used the alt today....i loved it. only took an hour to install :))
[06:59] <Stryk> I've been trying to install this thing all day. :P
[07:00] <pc-illiterate> it took me all day yesterday and today to find out xubuntu didnt like my vid card
[07:00] <Stryk> Hmm. I expect that'll happen to me too if I'm able to install this.
[07:00] <Stryk> Huh, my laptop booted from the hard drive.
[07:00] <The-Kernel> pc-illiterate, Stryk, what are your systems specs?
[07:01] <pc-illiterate> well it turns out it wasnt supported in this release
[07:01] <pc-illiterate> 1ghz celeron 256 ram
[07:01] <Stryk> Dell Latitude CPx running Windows XP, Pentium III, 498 MHz, and 128 MB of ram.
[07:02] <The-Kernel> both should work
[07:02] <The-Kernel> but not from the Live cd install
[07:02] <pc-illiterate> nope. not enough ram
[07:02] <pc-illiterate> webpage lies
[07:02] <Stryk> Hmm, doh.
[07:02] <Stryk> Well, it did say 192 to install, right?
[07:02] <Stryk> Or maybe I'm remember it wrong.
[07:02] <pc-illiterate> yep...it needs over 300
[07:03] <The-Kernel> Xubuntu will install on that
[07:03]  * Stryk bangs head into desk.
[07:03] <pc-illiterate> alt cd says 36 if i remember right
[07:04] <The-Kernel> 368 for live cd
[07:04] <The-Kernel> something like 96 for Alt
[07:04] <Stryk> So 128 mb is enough?
[07:04] <Stryk> (for alt)
[07:04] <The-Kernel> yes
[07:04] <The-Kernel> I've install Xubuntu on a 64 mb system
[07:05] <Stryk> Wow.
[07:05] <The-Kernel> and recently
[07:05] <pc-illiterate> everytime im doing something...now i got this girl wanting to show me her boobs lol
[07:05] <The-Kernel> haha
[07:05] <The-Kernel> pc-illiterate, for statements like that, lets move it to xubuntu-offtopic
[07:05] <Stryk> Heh. :P
[07:06] <The-Kernel> this is supposed to be a "family friendly" channel
[07:06] <pc-illiterate> thats why i said it decently but sorry
[07:06] <Stryk> BIOS says that my laptop is supposed to try to boot from CD/DVD first, but it isn't.
[07:06] <The-Kernel> "boobs" technically is an unacceptable word...pfft.
[07:07] <Stryk> I'd show you pictures, but you can't view them. :P
[07:07] <The-Kernel> Stryk I can now
[07:07] <pc-illiterate> i guess i would use the word chest ?
[07:07] <Stryk> Ah. Okay, I'll imageshack some pictures of what files are in the alt dvd.
[07:07] <The-Kernel> Stryk find the key combo that makes the boot menu come up, its something like "Esc, Del, F1, or F2:"
[07:08] <The-Kernel> maybe ctrl even
[07:08] <Stryk> I think mine's F2.
[07:08] <The-Kernel> Stryk, try to make the smaller(in byte size that is)
[07:08] <Stryk> ?
[07:08] <The-Kernel> the images
[07:08] <Stryk> Oh okay. Any particular format preference?
[07:08] <The-Kernel> your last one was 300k, it takes a while to download on dial uo
[07:08] <The-Kernel> .png
[07:09] <pc-illiterate> lol. dial up ?
[07:09] <The-Kernel> or low quality jpeg
[07:09] <Stryk> Sure. The other one I got from a website lol.
[07:10] <The-Kernel> Yeah its funny, I work at an ISP, but I'm still stuck with dialup
[07:10] <pc-illiterate> ok kernel...says to restart... and lol.
[07:11] <The-Kernel> restart X
[07:11] <The-Kernel> not your computer
[07:11] <The-Kernel> ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:11] <pc-illiterate> so i can shut down. install my card and boot. correct ?
[07:11] <The-Kernel> your card isn't installed?!
[07:11] <pc-illiterate> it says system restart
[07:11] <pc-illiterate> nope. monitor wouldnt start with card installed
[07:12] <pc-illiterate> im on on-board
[07:12] <The-Kernel> Yeah, go ahead and do that, make sure you disable the current card in there right now. Or you'll have some problems
[07:12] <The-Kernel> diable the onboard from the BIOS
[07:12] <pc-illiterate> disable ? my bios are set for pci video
[07:12] <The-Kernel> OK
[07:12] <Stryk> (03:10:36) <The-Kernel> Yeah its funny, I work at an ISP, but I'm still stuck with dialup << Oh the irony. Ever thought about switching to cable or DSL?
[07:13] <pc-illiterate> ok...bios has agp and pci options only
[07:13] <The-Kernel> Go ahead and do that.
[07:13] <Stryk> I remember dialup. Never... again...
[07:13] <The-Kernel> Stryk, I'm 120,000 feet from the closest CO
[07:13] <pc-illiterate> yea....toss dial up. if i have to go back to dial up, im net-less
[07:13] <Stryk> Oh.
[07:13]  * Stryk is unsure what CO is.
[07:13] <The-Kernel> I'm in a Canyon, which doesn't give me a view of the sky for sat
[07:14] <The-Kernel> CO is where the internet comes from
[07:14] <Stryk> I see.
[07:14] <The-Kernel> you need to be within 18,000 feet
[07:14] <The-Kernel> and cable is even shorter
[07:14] <Stryk> http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6607/xubuntuw15.png
[07:14] <Stryk> Ah.
[07:14] <Stryk> That's unfortunate.
[07:14] <The-Kernel> Don't worry, I'm moving
[07:14] <Stryk> File not found!?
[07:14] <The-Kernel> to where I'll have 10 meg
[07:15] <pc-illiterate> man kernel. i got a gun you can borrow. not as clean as a rope but ....
[07:15] <Stryk> Lol.
[07:15] <The-Kernel> dude!
[07:15] <pc-illiterate> ok...i shall retun
[07:15] <The-Kernel> I multiplexed 4 phone lines each running 40k dialup
[07:15] <The-Kernel> 40k * 4 = 160k internet connection!
[07:16]  * Stryk stares blankly.
[07:16] <The-Kernel> haha
[07:16] <The-Kernel> you probably have something around 6 meg
[07:17] <The-Kernel> don't you...
[07:17] <Stryk> Frankly, I don't even remember my internet speed anymore.
[07:21] <Stryk> Yeah, close enough to six mb.
[07:21] <Stryk> http://www.speedtest.net/result/245719083.png
[07:22] <Stryk> http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9625/xubuntutt1.png << There, that's what my alt dvd looks like.
[07:24] <The-Kernel> lloks fine
[07:25] <Stryk> Won't boot on startup for some reason from the CD/DVD, even though bios is set to do so first before going to the HD.
[07:25] <Stryk> I think it might be pausing momentarily on a black screen before booting Windows XP (as normal), but that might just be my imagination.
[07:31] <The-Kernel> Stryk did you run a checksum on the ISO
[07:31] <The-Kernel> ?
[07:33]  * Stryk blanks out again.
[07:34]  * Stryk runs to Wikipedia.
[07:36] <Stryk> So... *blush* how do I run a checksum on the iso?
[07:40] <The-Kernel> in windows, no idea
[07:44] <Stryk> Running checksum now.
[08:03] <slafko> hello...
[08:04] <slafko> I'm using english as default language, but I need croatian locale setting (date) in thunderbird
[08:04] <slafko> how to manage that?
[08:08] <Stryk> Hi.
[12:55] <ArmyMan007> hello? can anyone help me out here?
[12:56] <Odd-rationale> !ask | ArmyMan007
[12:56] <ArmyMan007> hi. I need some help with my wireless card/antana see
[12:56] <ArmyMan007> hi. I need some help with my wireless card/antana
[12:57] <ArmyMan007> on Xubuntu
[12:57] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Wireless is not my expertise. What chipset?
[12:57] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> meaning?
[12:58] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: What brand/type of wireless card you got?
[12:59] <ArmyMan007> I don't know. can the Xubuntu tell me?
[12:59] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Try: lspci | grep Network
[13:00] <ArmyMan007> you just type lspci and look under the grep network?
[13:00] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Try typing the whole command: lspci | grep Network
[13:01] <ArmyMan007> what do you type on the middle part?
[13:01] <Odd-rationale> You mean this | ?
[13:01] <ArmyMan007> yes
[13:01] <ArmyMan007> how to you type it?
[13:02] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Horizontal bar. Shift forward slash
[13:02] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Or just copy and paste from here...
[13:02] <Odd-rationale> *vertical. sorry :(
[13:02] <ArmyMan007> i can't copy and paste... it dosn't have internet... I'll just find it...
[13:03] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: On most keybaords, it is above the enter key...
[13:04] <Odd-rationale> !test
[13:04] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> nothing comes up, but i've typed the lspci command
[13:04] <ArmyMan007> !test
[13:04] <ArmyMan007>  !test
[13:04] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> will that work too?
[13:04] <Odd-rationale> hmm. what is wrong with ubotu today...
[13:04] <Odd-rationale> no !test is something else.
[13:05] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: OK. just type in lspci and look for the "network" line
[13:06] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I know i've got ethernet
[13:06] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> allow me to tell you what's this all about
[13:06] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> it seems that the Xubuntu detects the network, but won't let me connect it until I type the network key
[13:07] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I know what is the network key, but I don't know where to type it at
[13:07] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> do you happen to know where do I type it?
[13:07] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Do you have a network applet in the system tray. (top right)?
[13:08] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I've got a network symbol
[13:08] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> (top right)
[13:08] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Can you click it? does it look like bars?
[13:08] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I can acssase the network manager if that's what you're asking...
[13:09] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: That is different. There should be something in the top right called a network applet. find it?
[13:10] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I don't think I do...
[13:11] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> There is "manual network configuration" on the top right...
[13:11] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: That is it.
[13:11] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> That's what I ment... T__T
[13:11] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> OK. what's next?
[13:12] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Try this. Click it and go to manual configuration.
[13:12] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> And?
[13:12] <Odd-rationale> Do you have a "wireless connection" settings?
[13:12] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> No. I have "wired connection"
[13:13] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> No "wireless connection
[13:13] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> No "wireless connection" at all..
[13:13] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale ->
[13:13] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Open a terminal a try: iwconfig
[13:14] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: How many devices come up?
[13:14] <ArmyMan007> "no wireless extantions"
[13:14] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> "no wireless extantions"
[13:14] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> :-(
[13:14] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: how many devices? 2? 3?
[13:15] <Odd-rationale> e.g. I have lo, eth0, and eth1
[13:16] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> 2 devices: lo and eth0
[13:16] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> both saying "no wireless extantions""
[13:16] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: and you do have a wireless card plugged in. Right/
[13:16] <Odd-rationale> ?
[13:17] <ArmyMan007> yes. It has an antana sticking out of the computer...
[13:17] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: OK. lets try to find what wireless card you got. Try the "lspci | grep Network" command again.
[13:18] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> the command was invalid last time i've typed it...
[13:18] <Odd-rationale> e.g. I get: 03:05.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
[13:19] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> The command won't show a thing...
[13:19] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: OK. Just pastebin the entire output of lspci
[13:19] <ArmyMan007> I can't paste... I'm using another computer (it has XP)
[13:19] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: oh. sorry.
[13:20] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I'll just look up and type it
[13:20] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Does lspci spits out any info?
[13:21] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> yes. which info you want me to type you?
[13:21] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Does any any line have the word "Network controller" in it?
[13:22] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> I've got "ethernet controller" and "comunication controller", no "network controller"
[13:23] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Hmm. looks like your computer is not detecting your wireless card. Are you sure it is on?
[13:23] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> pretty sure. how can I verify that it is?
[13:24] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Does it have a light?
[13:25] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> No. Then again, this OLD computer dosn't even have a led... The win98 found it and it worked
[13:27] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: I'm running out of ideas here... Try going to Applications -> administration -> Retricted drivers. anything in there?
[13:29] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> Won't even go in. Gives me a message that there is nothing restriced that needs to be configured...
[13:29]  * ArmyMan007 slaps ArmyMan007 around a bit with a large trout
[13:29]  * ArmyMan007 slaps Odd-rationale around a bit with a large trout
[13:30] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: OK. Try the ubuntuforums.org for tier 2 support :)
[13:30] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> Your'e out of options?
[13:31] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Be sure to describe your situtaion as detailed as possible. Let them know that you hvae no Network controller interface in the lspci options and that iwconfig does not show your wireless device.
[13:31] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Yes. That is all I can do. Sorry :(
[13:31] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: Good luck!
[13:32] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> Well then, I guess I should go to the forums... Thanks a bunch though... :D
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> ArmyMan007: np. got to head off to school now.... :'(
[13:34] <ArmyMan007> Odd-rationale -> Enjoy! :P
[15:36] <ev> Hi all
[15:38] <Sir_Remoz> hola!
[15:44] <TheSheep> halo!
[16:36] <Sir_Remoz> :þ
[16:58] <exe> hi guys i have kubuntu and i search for the xubuntu reference?
[16:59] <vidd> 6huh?
[16:59] <exe> ?
[16:59] <exe> german channel?
[17:00] <vidd> this is ubuntu on xfce (like kubuntu is on KDE)
[17:00] <exe> i know
[17:01] <vidd> ok...then what is your question?
[17:01] <exe> but i want the refernce for xubuntu
[17:01] <vidd> you want to install xubuntu?
[17:01] <exe> no
[17:01] <vidd> or the web site?
[17:01] <zoredache> if you are asking how to install onto of kubuntu then 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[17:02] <zoredache> or please tell us what you mean by 'reference'
[17:10] <xivulon> hi
[17:11] <xivulon> can someone please provide me with the SVG for the logo to be used in umenu/wubi
[17:25] <zoredache> xivulon: I don't know what you are talking about, but did you try and look for the source package related to those things?
[17:26] <xivulon> which one?
[17:39] <TheSheep> xivulon: you want the xubuntu logo?
[17:39] <TheSheep> xivulon: or the icon based on it?
[18:01] <paolo_> first time for me...
[18:02] <Haden> How do I disable mouse scroll flipping through my desktops?
[18:07] <TheSheep> Haden: settings->window manager tweaks
[18:07] <TheSheep> Haden: the workspaces tab
[18:09] <Haden> TheSheep: fantastic.  That's really annoying on a touchpad ^.^ ty
[18:10] <TheSheep> Haden: you might want to disable the touchpad while typing
[18:10] <TheSheep> Haden: there is a daemon for that
[18:13] <Haden> TheSheep: I'll keep that in mind, although it hasn't been an issue thus far
[19:03] <ere4si> !info dillo
[19:03] <ubotu> dillo (source: dillo): Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 354 kB, installed size 956 kB
[19:04] <ere4si> hmmm - 0.8.6 was released in 2/06...
[19:05] <TheSheep> it's not continued, I'm afraid
[19:05] <TheSheep> ere4si: you can take a look at midori if you want some actively developed lightweight web browser
[19:06] <ere4si> but the last version isn't the one in the repos TheSheep  is what I was looking at
[19:06] <TheSheep> ah
[19:07] <ere4si> from 06
[19:07] <vidd> so package it and submit it for approval!
[19:08] <vidd> =]
[19:38] <zoredache> so where DO you submit packages you create?
[19:39] <vidd> to the MOTU
[19:39] <TheSheep> ask at ubuntu-motu maybe
[19:41] <xivulon> TheSheep, need the logo and the icon, but I can generate an icon from an svg
[19:43] <TheSheep> xivulon: the logo is available from wikipedia entry about xubuntu, the icon is on the wiki, in the artwork for.. edgy, I think
[19:44] <xivulon> TheSheep: ok that's the logo I am already using, so nothing to change
[19:47] <xivulon> TheSheep shall I use the more flashy logo here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Proposed/AllImages
[19:47] <TheSheep> xivulon: there is an icon I made (based on the ubuntu icon): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Feisty?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=xubuntu-logo.svg
[19:48] <TheSheep> but not sure how useful it is
[19:48] <TheSheep> xivulon: jmak is the "art director" for xubuntu, maybe you should contact him
[19:49] <xivulon> where would I normally find him?
[19:49] <xivulon> TheSheep do you know how to generate proper windows .ico files from svg
[19:49] <TheSheep> xivulon: I think he's rarely on irc
[19:50] <xivulon> I believe those use different layers for different resolutions/color depth
[19:50] <TheSheep> xivulon: yes, you would generate several renderings and then merge them together somehow into an ico file, ImageMagick can probably do it
[19:50] <xivulon> I mean I know I can use save as in gimp but that will create a single layer .ico
[20:02] <xivulon> TheSheep do you know of any script to do that?
[20:08] <TheSheep> xivulon: no
[20:17] <xivulon> TheSheep thanks anyway
[21:26] <Seeeb> what will happen when i uninstall all the xfce-stuff over synaptic while using the xfce environment? (i want to update the xfce to 4.4.2)
[21:27] <TheSheep> Seeeb: nothing
[21:27] <TheSheep> Seeeb: some things will stop working
[21:27] <TheSheep> Seeeb: but the programs that rae running will still be running
[21:27] <Seeeb> but how can it still run when i deinstalled it OR how can it be deinstlaled while its still running? :D
[21:28] <TheSheep> Seeeb: they are loaded into memory
[21:28] <Seeeb> ah
[21:28] <Seeeb> but if i'd restart, i couldnt startx right ?
[21:28] <TheSheep> you could, but then nothing will come up
[21:28] <Seeeb> oki
[21:28] <Seeeb> big thx 2 u [-:
[21:28] <TheSheep> so it is a little risky
[21:29] <TheSheep> things that require starting new programs, like alt+f2 will stop working too
[21:30] <Seeeb> hm
[21:31] <Seeeb> but do u think that i'd still be able to run the installer of the xfce ?
[21:31] <Seeeb> .run file
[21:36] <TheSheep> if you have a terminal open before that
[21:36] <TheSheep> to run it from
[21:36] <Seeeb> haha ok :)
[21:37] <Seeeb> this is a very important advice i think
[22:05] <jdk1976> hi all. anybody know why opening a terminal in xubuntu would crash graphics?
[22:05] <jdk1976> sorry, that's xfce xubuntu
[22:10] <zoredache> Assuming you have an nvidia graphic card... There is a known bug
[22:11] <jdk1976> this is an onboard intel 1810
[22:11] <jdk1976> i810
[22:12] <zoredache> see bug 91849
[22:12] <jdk1976> when I try to open a terminal thescreen goes to this colorfull striated array
[22:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91849 in xorg-server "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91849
[22:12] <jdk1976> muchos gracias
[22:14] <zoredache> there are a few other bugs also realted to starting xfce4-terminal resulting in a crash.  Some of them have suggested fixes/tweaks that can improve things.
[22:20] <Ein2015> can somebody help me setup vncserver via SSH on a server running xubuntu?
[22:21] <zoredache> Ein2015: sudo apt-get install x11vnc then
[22:21] <Ein2015> if i already installed vncserver, is that necessary?
[22:21] <zoredache> do you want to see your console?
[22:21] <zoredache> or do you just want to see another x11 instance
[22:23] <zoredache> anyway, the method I use is with x11vnc
[22:23] <Ein2015> i need to be able to interact with the x11 instance that shows up on the monitor of the server (which right now is a very crappy CRT TV and so it's impossible to read small txt on the damn thing, hence why i'm setting up VNC)
[22:24] <zoredache> so install x11vnc, and then us a command like this to start your tunnel forward a port, then have x11vnc start and connect to your current console
[22:24] <zoredache> ssh -L9999:localhost:5900 -t username@host sudo x11vnc -localhost -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loopssh -L9999:localhost:5900 -t username@host sudo x11vnc -localhost -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop
[22:24] <zoredache> ack... sorry one more time, but corrected ssh -L9999:localhost:5900 -t username@host sudo x11vnc -localhost -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop
[22:25] <zoredache> then on the client you simply vnc to localhost:9999
[22:26] <Ein2015> O.o
[22:26] <Ein2015> now that's way different than i'm used to
[22:27] <Ein2015> where's the "easy-to-setup, edit a configuration file or two, and then connect to the IP:1 using a vncviewer" type of solution?
[22:27] <Ein2015> :\
[22:27] <Ein2015> because i sure as hell wont remember that long string when i want to connect each time.
[22:27] <zoredache> Ein2015: It wouldn't supprise me... I have been accused of doing things weird frequently.  But is the way I know to make it work
[22:27] <Ein2015> hehe
[22:27] <zoredache> Ein2015: well after the first time, you write a script and just run the script
[22:29] <Ein2015> i shall try this... http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html
[22:29] <zoredache> so really I have a script called ssh-vnc.sh that basically has that line, but replaces username@host with $1.  Then I just do ssh-vnc user@host
[22:29] <Ein2015> yeah i havent had the time to do much shell scripting :(
[22:31] <zoredache> Ein2015: did you read the comments on that page
[22:31] <zoredache> It doesn't connect you to the 'desktop session'
[22:31] <zoredache> Read The second comment by Warren
[22:32] <Ein2015> hrm
[23:33] <x9x> are there any parameter that I can use (in the livecd menu) to start xubuntu with less memory? (like don't load any backgroundimage, screensaver or update-manager or something?)
[23:34] <x9x> I have 128MB memory (or little less since the graphic card is stealing 16Mb or so)... are there anything I can do to make Xubuntu livecd start?
[23:46] <x9x> the only other alternative is to change the xubuntu-cd with UCK to make it load less things or? (so it can start correctly with 112MB memory)
[23:47] <zoredache> x9x: you are probably out of luck... I doubt there is any way to make a livecd with a full gui do anything useful in 128MB of ram these days.
[23:48] <zoredache> are you trying to install xubuntu, or just play around with the livecd... If you are trying to install then you would have better luck with the alternate cd
[23:49] <x9x> hmm.. I guess xorg, and xfce itself (even with as little things as possible loaded more than the menu) eats lots of memory....
[23:50] <zoredache> a livecd by itself with a cli-only system eats lots of memory
[23:50] <zoredache> you have to have ram-disks that eat up tons of the memory because most programs don't like running on read-only media
[23:51] <x9x> well... first thing is too boot with the livecd so I can dump the content on the harddisk to a usb memory, (after that I thought of installing xbuntu somehow, perhaps in textmode?)
[23:52] <zoredache> huh?
[23:52] <x9x> later when it is installed, then there would be be a swap-partiton so it would at least work..
[23:52] <zoredache> oh, I see... well you don't really need to boot to the livecd to backup your data... doing the backup from a command line will be more difficult
[23:53] <x9x> aha ok it is the xubuntu-livecds ramdisk-somthing that eats up the system?
[23:53] <x9x> *the memory
[23:54] <zoredache> it is a combination of everything... the ramddisk + the applications
[23:54] <x9x> ok
[23:54] <zoredache> if you are needing to make a backup you might try working with something like dsl
[23:56] <x9x> how do I copy all files from the harddisk (it is an old win98-installation) to my usb-memory from the command line?  is is just  cp -r /somethingsomething/cpartition/ /somethingsomething/usbdisk ?
[23:57] <zoredache> that looks like a command that could work, yes
[23:58] <x9x> I have been able to get to xubuntu commandline (after some 45 minutes or so when I gived up on getting more than the mousepointer) with ctrl-alt-f1, so I guess I can run commandline-thing from there
[23:59] <zoredache> from the alternate installer you can go into 'rescue' mode.  That should allow you to mount and copy your files
[23:59] <x9x> ok