[00:00] <storbeck> You'll have to sudo
[00:00] <storbeck> And uncomment the internet repos
[00:00] <tekteen> xz: uncomment = get rid of #
[00:00] <xz> ok
[00:00] <xz> how can i do taht
[00:01] <tekteen> only infront of the commands
[00:01]  * storbeck sighs
[00:01] <tekteen> they start with deb
[00:01] <xz> dont think im stupid its just my first time with linux
[00:01] <tekteen> ok
[00:01] <tekteen> sorry
[00:01] <xz> lol its ok
[00:01] <storbeck> xz, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:02] <dako> Can someone help me with Kubuntu install question
[00:02] <xz> then..
[00:02] <tekteen> !ask|dako
[00:02] <ubotu> dako: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:02] <storbeck> Then do what I already told you
[00:03] <dako> OK. I installed 7.10 and am doing update, but it is now wanting to da a Distribution Update.Am I missing something?
[00:03] <xz> english its not my native language so can u be more specific
[00:03] <flipstar> how do you did the update ?
[00:03] <xz> _
[00:03] <dako> Adept
[00:03] <dako> I am hung at installing the upgrades
[00:03] <storbeck> xz, Uncomment (delete the #) from the lines that start with # deb
[00:04] <flipstar> adept_updater says there is a distribution update..?
[00:04] <dako> Yes
[00:04] <dako> It wants to update to version 7.10
[00:04] <tekteen> dako: I had that problem
[00:04] <tekteen> dako: just forget about it. It will go away
[00:04] <flipstar> didnt you said you just installed 7.10..?
[00:05] <dako> Yes.
[00:05] <xz> man thanks im gonna read more and im gonna try later
[00:05] <tekteen> dako: do sudo apt-get update and it should stop asking
[00:05] <dako> In the terminal window tekteen?
[00:05] <flipstar> yes
[00:05] <dako> OK
[00:07] <dako> Should I try and do this update still?
[00:08] <tekteen> dako: do not try to go to the next distribution
[00:08] <tekteen> just forget it says that
[00:09] <mixed> is it possible to    uninstall  KDE and then to install an earlier version of   KDE 3?
[00:09] <dako> Alright am doing the upgrade again
[00:10] <storbeck> mixed, Install the older version first, then uninstall
[00:10] <storbeck> You can have as many KDE versions installed as you want.
[00:11] <mixed> storbeck, how do i     install  the previous version of   KDE 3.5?
[00:12] <mixed> storbeck, i   mean how do i install the   version prior to     3.5? I  think the current one is 3.5
[00:12] <storbeck> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/
[00:13] <storbeck> Has everything from 3.0 to 4.0
[00:15] <Dorwin6> does anyone know what is the super button in kubuntu ?
[00:15] <storbeck> Super button refers to a Mac
[00:16] <Shadow_mil> Super button is the window's key
[00:16] <Dorwin6> ty
[00:18] <cuznt> i am using gutsy. when i play any file it sounds good. BUT if i record it, upon play back there is screeetchiness in the back ground...
[00:19] <cuznt> been here http://alsa.opensrc.org/
[00:19] <cuznt> maybe i am not getting "it"
[00:19] <tony_> i just installed a packaged. can someone tell me how i search for it from the command line?
[00:20] <storbeck> tony, What was the package named?
[00:20] <SlimeyPete> tony_: "search for it"? You want to know what command to run? Or you want to know where it put the files?
[00:20] <tony_> nvclock-gtk
[00:20] <tony_> SlimeyPete:  either
[00:20] <flipstar>  nvclock_gtk is the command name
[00:20] <Kr|ptiX> any1 know how to burn a audio cd in k3b
[00:20] <storbeck> tony, You can use tab completion.
[00:20] <tony_> flipstar:  didn't work
[00:21] <genii> cuznt: PErhaps experiment with what inputs are enabled in kmix
[00:21] <storbeck> Try typing nvclock and pressing tab
[00:21] <cuznt> i am
[00:21] <SlimeyPete> tony_: dpkg -L packagename | less               to see all the files.
[00:21] <tony_> it starts the command line version of nvclock
[00:21] <cuznt> i can turn everything off and still get capture.
[00:22] <cuznt> i have alsa/oss and aoss installed
[00:22] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: use new audio cd as a project
[00:22] <tony_> SlimeyPete:  thanks, that worked
[00:22] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: you may want to check plugins are all there
[00:22] <Kr|ptiX> when tryn to add a mp3 it wont work
[00:22] <SlimeyPete> tony_: no problem
[00:25] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: go to settings configure k3b and chack the plugins
[00:25] <Kazuharu> Hey guys, I just installed KDE4 on my Kubuntu 7.10 how do I activate it? as Im still using 3.5 :\
[00:25] <Jsn> does anyone else have a problem getting knetworkmanager to open?
[00:25] <Kr|ptiX> wat would i be lookn for
[00:26] <flipstar> Kazuharu: you can select it from kdm
[00:26] <kiefer> Cheers flip
[00:26] <kiefer> Omg noob question, How do i open kdm? -.- lol
[00:27] <flipstar> err kdm is the login manager
[00:27] <kiefer> Haha ohk
[00:27] <kiefer> Where abouts in the login messenger am i supposed to select kde4?
[00:27] <kiefer> manager* not messenger lmao
[00:27] <flipstar> logout then select kde4 under system i thing
[00:27] <cuznt> there is a little piece of looking paper
[00:27] <cuznt> click on that and choose kde4
[00:28] <Jsn> does anyone else have a problem getting knetworkmanager to open?
[00:28] <cuznt> there should be a few choices
[00:28] <kiefer> On the login screen? (~.-)
[00:28] <flipstar> yes
[00:28] <kiefer> Lol alright, thanks for the help guys :p
[00:28] <kiefer> keep up the good work ^,^
[00:28] <flipstar> hf with kde4
[00:28] <kiefer> i will :p
[00:28] <kiefer> bbs
[00:31] <flipstar> what stands S, Ss, S<, Sl and so on on ps ax for? column STATE
[00:31] <Kr|ptiX> does any1  kno how to fix libz.so.1 is needed by k3b-mp3-0.11.14-1.2.el4.rf.i386 error
[00:31] <Jsn> how do you uninstall something?
[00:31] <flipstar> use adept_manager
[00:32] <tekteen> Jsn: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[00:32] <Jsn> thanks
[00:32] <Jsn> does anyone have the link to that wifi docs page?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> !wifi
[00:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:33] <Jsn> thanks
[00:33] <genii> Kr|ptiX: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[00:34] <genii> Kr|ptiX: I get the feeling how you install things is to download some .deb file all the time, last time it was missing libs for the flash plugin.
[00:36] <Kr|ptiX> how  do i fix that error?
[00:37] <Kr|ptiX> so it doesnt do it again
[00:37] <genii> Kr|ptiX: If what you are trying to accomplish is to install mp3 support for k3b, the first thing I told you
[00:37] <genii> Kr|ptiX: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[00:37] <genii> ^
[00:38] <Kr|ptiX> i  did that but when i do sudo rpm -i <file> will it still give me that error?
[00:38] <Dr_willis> rpm ?
[00:38] <Kr|ptiX> i always get that error
[00:38] <Jsn> this is driving me crazy!  I uninstalled knetworkmanager, reinstalled it and it still will not open when selected
[00:38] <Dr_willis> What disrto you running?
[00:39] <Kr|ptiX> gusty
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  how are you using 'rpm' at all?
[00:39] <genii> dr_willis: [20:34:20] <genii> Kr|ptiX: I get the feeling how you install things is to download some .deb file all the time, last time it was missing libs for the flash plugin.
[00:39]  * Dr_willis is totally confused then. :)
[00:39] <genii> Dr_willis: He seems to refuse to use any kind of ubuntu/debian package manager
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Guess hes on his own then...
[00:40] <Dr_willis> if hes using rpm's instead of the .debs hes VERY much on his own.
[00:40] <kiefer> o_o @ KDE4
[00:40] <Kr|ptiX> so i should be using debs files not rpms
[00:40] <kiefer> Just upgraded, looks so damn coo XD
[00:41] <Kr|ptiX> i didnt kno im a  newb srry
[00:41] <flipstar> rpm is redhat or so
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  ubuntu uses the apt-get system, which uses debs. I got NO idea how you got the idea you should be using rpms.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> redhat/mandrake/so on are rpm based
[00:41] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Ubuntu uses .deb files and not .rpm files. Most things can be installed from a package manager like Adept or Synaptic in the graphical way, and with apt-get in the command line way
[00:41] <kiefer> Hey willis :p
[00:41] <Dr_willis> thats the 'core' differance in many of the disrtos..
[00:41] <Kr|ptiX> oh k
[00:42] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Use the Adept program to install most things. When you cannot find what you need there (rarely) then find a .deb package which is for the correct Ubuntu version
[00:43] <laz0r> hi, i am having problems installing the kde-devel package on gutsy, very similar to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101, maybe someone in here has any suggestions?
[00:43] <laz0r> because, i am pretty lost
[00:43] <tekteen>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[00:43] <Kr|ptiX> k genii maybe u can help me with another problem i have
[00:43] <tekteen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  you may want to download the free ubuntu books at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[00:44] <genii> Dr_willis: Nice call there
[00:44] <Dr_willis> and read  it  also.. of course.. :)
[00:44] <Kr|ptiX> genii: i can conenct to my wireless router witch uses wpa2 aes but when i try to connect to my friends router witch he doesnt use anytime oh encryption it wont let me
[00:44] <Kr|ptiX> anytype*
[00:48] <Kr|ptiX> any help with that problems
[00:49] <genii> !ping
[00:49] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[00:49] <genii> Had a momentary disconnect
[00:50] <oren> can someone help me?
[00:50] <oren> i try playing anaudio file and it sounds all speeded up like alvin in the chipmunks
[00:50] <oren> and video files have n sound
[00:50] <oren> no
[00:51] <oren> i shoul just switch back to xp
[00:51] <oren> please help
[00:52] <Jsn> alright, i have read this line 5 times and can not figure out what they are talking about.  does anyone know how to do this in the services manager
[00:52] <Jsn> Add knetworkmanager to the comma-separated list of applications to exclude from the session management (in the bottom of the window), and click Apply.
[00:52] <genii> Kr|ptiX: When you right-click on the knetwork icon in bottom right you should see a list of networks in range. If you don't see a list when you know there are some around, likely there is some entry for your usual connection in the file /etc/network/interfaces which makes knetworkmanager believe it is manually configured.
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> how you playing audio and video files?
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> oren: *
[00:52] <oren> i have a few programs
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> like?
[00:52] <oren> vlc mplayer
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> genii: yeah i see a list of networks
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> i click on hes an it wont connect
[00:53] <Shadow_mil> It sounds like you have codec problems
[00:53] <genii> Kr|ptiX: What percentage does it get to?
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> 28%
[00:54] <Shadow_mil> oren: what type of audio files you are playing?
[00:54] <Kr|ptiX> i think it fails to obtain  a ip
[00:54] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Yes, that looks about right. I suspect the issue is on his router
[00:54] <Jsn> anyone?
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> oren: what format?   I.E: mp3, wav
[00:55] <Kr|ptiX> hrmm never had this problem before on my old os
[00:55] <Kazuharu> I just installed kde4, and it was working till i reset kde, now whenever i log in, nothing appears but a crash handler saying that oxygen recieved signal SIGSEGV  :\
[00:55] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Perhaps he has static IPs set on the laptop he uses with it
[00:55] <raylu> omgomgomgkde4sweet
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> Kr|ptiX: try a program called wlassistance
[00:55] <raylu> *wlanassitant?
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> oren: you there?
[00:55] <raylu> *assistant
[00:56] <keeper> hi, i can't get kubuntu to boot on a fresh install, or on the livecd either, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure but it did not solve the problem
[00:56] <raylu> keeper, describe what happens more, please
[00:56] <keeper> it stalls right after the splash screen loader
[00:56] <Kazuharu> Any help?
[00:56] <Kr|ptiX> where can i get wlassistance
[00:56] <flipstar> Kazuharu: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[00:57] <Kazuharu> Ohk cheers flip
[00:57] <Shadow_mil> Kr|ptiX: it should be in your package manager, somewhere.   Not sure of the package's name
[00:58] <Frederick> folks is the java package broken for amd64?
[00:58] <Shadow_mil> Frederick: most likely
[00:58] <Shadow_mil> oren: you want help or not?
[00:58] <flipstar> his cpu probably is too fast
[00:58] <keeper> after it stalls after the loader the screen is usually black with thick horizontal grey lines,with a cursor at the top left
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: orens?
[00:59] <flipstar> yep
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: I doubt it
[00:59] <keeper> and changing from ^alt F1 and back will usually make some glitchy graphics, coloured ascii type glitches
[00:59] <Kr|ptiX> only things ive found is sometin called kwlan  an  rutilT wlan manager
[00:59] <flipstar> man dont you have humor :)
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: Im thinking a codec or sound driver issue
[01:00] <Shadow_mil> no, its not installed
[01:00] <Dr_willis> keeper,  thats often an issue with the framebuffer and various X drivers. I alwyas disable the framebuffer.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> the console framebuffer, and X  drivers some how fight at times. :(
[01:00] <genii> Kr|ptiX: K-menu->Add/Remove programs put here your usual passsword when asked... then put Wireless Assistant              in where it has Search:  then check it off and apply
[01:00] <keeper> so dpkg-reconfigure and disable frame buffer ?
[01:01] <keeper> or can i just disable it in xorg.conf ?
[01:02] <Kr|ptiX> k ty found it
[01:03] <Frederick> Shadow_mil: no java application seems to work here ive tried netbeans azureus and so on but no luck I got the error message in http://rafb.net/p/GjtZrU53.html
[01:04] <Shadow_mil> Frederick: I would just ues the 32-bit version, I have heard other people having problems with 64-Java
[01:04] <dariocoll> !grub
[01:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:05] <keeper> I'll have a go at disabling framebuffer, thanks for the help ^.^
[01:06] <Frederick> Shadow_mil: how do I do it?
[01:06] <Frederick> I mean Ive just instaleld java Ive not asked for a version
[01:07] <Shadow_mil> how did you install it?
[01:08] <Frederick> ive instaleld icedtea-java7
[01:08] <Frederick> I had java 6 also installed
[01:09] <storbeck> I have Java pre-installed thanks to the distro :D
[01:09] <Shadow_mil> I think Java6 is 32-bit
[01:09] <Frederick> and my java is the 32bit
[01:09] <Shadow_mil> I dunno, I hate java
[01:11] <Frederick> yep y java is the 32
[01:11] <Frederick> im building it from source now
[01:11] <Frederick> seing wut happens
[01:11]  * Frederick has a gentoo feeling
[01:16] <fignew> Frederick's feeling "optimized"
[01:16] <AMcBain> Okay, Just downloaded the driver for my wireless card from the Intel site (the linux edition :) so how do I get the OS to recognize it? I started off with the page on how use the NDIS wrapper so I've disabled the default driver already ...
[01:16] <fignew> AMcBain: you don't need to download the driver from Intel's site
[01:17] <AMcBain> uh, okay.
[01:17] <Frederick> fignew: upset is the right word
[01:17] <aaroncampbell> How exactly can I check what version of Kubuntu is installed on a system?
[01:17] <fignew> AMcBain: what does lspci | grep -i ethernet
[01:17] <fignew> say?
[01:17] <flipstar> aaroncampbell: cat /etc/*release
[01:17] <Jucato> !version | aaroncampbell
[01:17] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[01:18] <Frederick> how long does a java package takes to build in an amd athlon 64 3 ghz and 4 gb ram?
[01:18] <AMcBain> 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[01:18] <AMcBain> But I'm trying to fix the Wifi ...
[01:18] <AMcBain> I can do ethernet.
[01:18] <fignew> right... but the wireless should show up as ethernet
[01:18] <AMcBain> It doesn't.
[01:19] <fignew> do a straight-up lspci
[01:19] <markrian> Hello! How does gdm/kdm know a particular user's preferred session environment? I need to change it, and have to do it remotely via ssh. Any ideas?
[01:19] <AMcBain> But it does show up under lspci
[01:19] <fignew> what card is it?
[01:19] <AMcBain> 02:01.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
[01:19] <AMcBain> (I new it was a Intel Pro Set ...)
[01:20] <crxyem> markrian it would be in /home/user/.kde
[01:20] <crxyem> not sure about gdm
[01:21] <fignew> AMcBain: does lsmod | grep -i "ipw2200" say anything?
[01:22] <markrian> crxyem: any idea where in ~/.kde in particular?
[01:22] <AMcBain> yes two lines: ipw2200               149320  0 \n ieee80211              35656  1 ipw2200
[01:22] <fignew> AMcBain: ok
[01:22] <AMcBain> So I already have those necessary packages.
[01:23] <fignew> what network interfaces does "iwconfig" list?
[01:24] <AMcBain> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1720
[01:31] <fignew> sorry AMcBain I was in my roomate's room
[01:31] <fignew> anyways... the wireless card is installed
[01:32] <fignew> just a matter of telling it what to connect to
[01:32] <AMcBain> Well that may be, but the default driver doesn't let me see wireless networks ...
[01:33] <fignew> AMcBain: orly?
[01:33] <AMcBain> Unless there is some program I'm missing that shows the networks ...
[01:33] <fignew> is knetworkmanager installed?
[01:35] <AMcBain> Seems to be.
[01:35] <AMcBain> I'm using the ethernet with it right now.
[01:35] <fignew> ok
[01:35] <fignew> so when you click on it, no wireless networks show up?
[01:36] <AMcBain> The last tab is grayed out.
[01:36] <deuryte> can some one take a look at my software list and see what in need to do in order to get my dasktop effects enabled and running in kde gutsy ?
[01:36] <AMcBain> And I know there are several WiFi networks in this building even if they aren't worth connecting ...
[01:36] <fignew> AMcBain: what does the command "iwlist eth1 ap" say?
[01:37] <flipstar> deuryte: talking about compiz ?
[01:37] <deuryte> yes
[01:37] <AMcBain> eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[01:38] <fignew> hmmm
[01:38] <fignew> AMcBain: do ifconfig eth1 up
[01:38] <ar0nic> hey guys
[01:38] <fignew> AMcBain: then wait a few seconds... and try again :)
[01:38] <crxyem> I think I may have found a bug, Not 100% sure that this might be related to compiz,but  If I open firefox, thunderbird won't open and vise versa, they both seem to run "run-mozilla.sh" the file exits is /usr/lib/thunderbird and /usr/lib/firefox any ideas
[01:38] <ar0nic> got a good\\\\\\\\\\\\
[01:39] <ar0nic> whoops
[01:39] <keeper> back from trying to disable framebuffer, it didn't work ( though maybe i could have done something wrong )
[01:39] <flipstar> deuryte: install compiz,ccsm,emerald then..
[01:40] <flipstar> !compiz | deuryte
[01:40] <ubotu> deuryte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:40] <AMcBain> fignew: I tried, it said access denied, so I ran it with sudo ... and it seemed to have no effect.
[01:40] <ar0nic> hey guys having some issues with my video files, ive already made sure all packages and players are compiled and installed correctly and read thru the many threads and guides
[01:40] <fignew> right... sudo :P
[01:40] <ar0nic> in any player i have no vid
[01:40] <deuryte> flipstar: can i show you my list of what i already have installed??
[01:40] <fignew> AMcBain: that is strange though
[01:40] <ar0nic> the sound is fine just no vid
[01:41] <flipstar> ar0nic: you have codecs installed ?
[01:41] <ar0nic> w32 packages, medibuntu, divx as wekk
[01:41] <ar0nic> 'well*
[01:41] <flipstar> ffmpeg codec..?
[01:41] <ar0nic> any codec i could find that i didnt already have i downloaded
[01:41] <ar0nic> ffmpeg i do have.
[01:42] <ar0nic> its included in the w32 codecs  isnt it?
[01:42] <flipstar> nope
[01:42] <ar0nic> cant remember cause ive wowah'
[01:42] <flipstar> omg netsplit
[01:43] <ar0nic> is the person helping me still here
[01:43] <ar0nic> anyway ffmpeg is there
[01:43] <ar0nic> the only ones i havent installed yet are the mplayer essentials
[01:43] <flipstar> so no vid in vlc..?
[01:43] <ar0nic> kind of a noob and having problems doing it from the gui
[01:44] <ar0nic> no vid in vlc, mplayer, kaffiene\<--which sucks) xine
[01:44] <ar0nic> notta
[01:44] <ar0nic> they all do the same thing cept kaffiene which does nothing at all
[01:44] <AMcBain> heh, just like me! None of my programs will play DVDs ... (all xine related I think)
[01:45] <flipstar> btw what kind of video you try to play ?
[01:45] <ar0nic> avi
[01:45] <ar0nic> divx
[01:45] <flipstar> libxine1-ffmpeg you need then
[01:46] <ar0nic> where do i check to see all installed codecs
[01:47] <ar0nic> and also im having an issue using arc to extract the mplayer essecianels pack  because of sadmin privledge
[01:48] <ar0nic> what would be the cli command
[01:48] <flipstar> depends on archive format
[01:49] <ar0nic> tar.bz2
[01:49] <flipstar> then tar -xf <file>
[01:50] <ar0nic> its downloaded on the desktop and it has to be extracted to the codecs dir.
[01:50] <ar0nic> where can i find that program flipstar
[01:50] <ar0nic> ??
[01:51] <ar0nic> not program im sorry package
[01:51] <ar0nic> the lipxine1-ffmpeg
[01:51] <genii> .tar.bz2 requires: tar -xjf name                 if you want different extract dir,: tar -xjf name -C /other/place
[01:51] <flipstar> type in konsole sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:52] <ar0nic> already have it installed
[01:52] <ar0nic> i thought i did....
[01:53] <flipstar> maybe you installed too much codecs
[01:53] <ar0nic> flipstar thats what im thinking
[01:53] <ar0nic> what would be the minimum codecs i need and also what about removing the ones already on here?
[01:54] <ar0nic> do i delete those from the package manager?
[01:54] <flipstar> yep
[01:55] <ar0nic> what would be the bare package choice for you
[01:55] <ar0nic> i have a wide array of formats i watch...all from a windows box
[01:56] <linoss> anyone of a software application that records a phone conversation utilizing the internal modem on a PC?
[01:58] <wimpies> when I press the 'right' arrow key in xine my movie does not skip 7 seconds as it should but but returns to the kind of like the last keyframe.
[01:58] <ar0nic> dude there is a 1000 packages
[01:59] <flipstar> use filter function
[02:01] <ar0nic> the ones i have seem to be the ones i need
[02:01] <ar0nic> i have the ffmpeg codec library from medibuntu
[02:01] <ar0nic> and the win32 codec binaries
[02:03] <ForgeAus> um how do I make a user who can manage files with root-like priveleges
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> add the new user to the admin group
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> assuming you mean you want them to be able to use sudo
[02:04] <ForgeAus> you mean adm ?
[02:05] <ForgeAus> there is no admin group
[02:05] <ForgeAus> no I want them to be able to write to the place their home is mounted
[02:05] <ForgeAus> (note its not mounted under /home/<username>
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I put it in /mnt/and/ (which is on a different drive)
[02:06] <keeper> *sigh* i can't find anything on how to fix the problem I'm having
[02:07] <flipstar> in systemsettings>usermanagement>$username>edit>preveliges>administer the system maybe ?
[02:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there is an admin group. it's the sudoers group
[02:08] <keeper> is there a way to turn framebuffer off, other than running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:08] <flipstar> add it to blacklist ..
[02:08] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: where is their home, and why did you make it so they cant write to it?
[02:09] <ForgeAus> kogetz I didn't make it so they can't write to it
[02:09] <ForgeAus> but its on a mounted partition
[02:10] <kgoetz> where is it mounted from?
[02:10] <ForgeAus> um fstab I guess
[02:10] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: pastebin the output of `mount`
[02:10] <ForgeAus> its under /mnt/and/
[02:10] <kgoetz> also pastebin the output of `ls -lh /mnt` and `ls -lh /mnt/and/`
[02:13] <ForgeAus> http://www.pastebin.ca/941939
[02:13] <ForgeAus> (has both)
[02:14] <ForgeAus> its mounted as rw
[02:14] <ForgeAus> and root can write to it
[02:14] <ForgeAus> I just can't seem to make the user able to write to it
[02:15] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: you need to allow users to write to it (theres settings in the /etc/fstab to let you) - i'm heading out to grab lunch. back in ~15 perhaps
[02:16] <ForgeAus> ohh kay
[02:16] <ForgeAus> guess I'll just wait till you come back
[02:16] <keeper> this might help ForgeAus, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[02:18] <keeper> and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[02:19] <ForgeAus> the user option lets them mount and unmount according to the tuxfiles url but doesn't say if it lets them write to it
[02:20] <jor> hola alguien habla españolllllllll
[02:20] <jor> hellou
[02:20] <EDinNY> what is the name of the deb that gives you Acrobat reader?
[02:20] <jor> alguien habla español
[02:20] <jor> HELLOU
[02:20] <jor> ALGUIEN SPEAK SPANISH
[02:21] <jor> HOLAAAAAAAAAAA
[02:21] <jor> ALGUIEN HABLAESPAÑOLLLLLLLLLLLL
[02:22] <ForgeAus> ok restarting now with the user flag
[02:24] <keeper> this has some information on permissions, http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtontfs.html
[02:24] <kgoetz> !acrobat | EDinNY
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <kgoetz> bah.
[02:25] <ForgeAus> back.. that didn't work
[02:25] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: can you tell us the fstab line you have for that fileystem?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> 31 /mnt/and cofs user 0 0
[02:26] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: add 'defaults' next to user (defaults,user)
[02:27] <ForgeAus> ok unmounted it and remounted it
[02:27] <keeper> !search framebuffer
[02:27] <ubotu> Found: framebuffer, vgafb, fb
[02:28] <keeper> !framebuffer
[02:28] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[02:28] <ForgeAus> hmmm still error
[02:28] <ForgeAus> I get this:
[02:28] <ForgeAus> 2008/03/13 22:27:38 error mkdir failed on /mnt/and/winuser/.mldonkey: Permission
[02:28] <ForgeAus>  denied for directory /mnt/and/winuser/.mldonkey
[02:30] <keeper> so you added the user option in fstab ?
[02:30] <kgoetz> i wouldnt expect user to be required
[02:30] <kgoetz> i'm supprised 'defaults' doesnt do it though
[02:30]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[02:32] <keeper> you can set permissions with the mount cmd
[02:32] <ForgeAus> uh?
[02:34] <ForgeAus> hmm chown winuser:winuser winuser doesn't work
[02:34] <dalton2345> hello...i tried to install kubuntu but the cd check gave me 3 errors, anyone would know why?
[02:34] <ForgeAus> after an ls -l its still owned by root:root
[02:34] <ForgeAus> (even when root does the chown)
[02:34] <ForgeAus> is that because its ntfs?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> (well cofs)
[02:35] <genii> uid= gid=    etc
[02:35] <ccarr013> hi there
[02:35] <ccarr013> can anyone help me?
[02:35] <ccarr013> please
[02:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[02:36] <ccarr013> my kubuntu
[02:36] <keeper> do you remember what the errors were, dalton2345 ?
[02:36] <ccarr013> don't start wifi
[02:37] <dalton2345> it didnt say keeper
[02:37] <dalton2345> just said 3 errors and reboot
[02:37] <ccarr013> don't even recognize the wifi card
[02:37] <keeper> most likely it didn't download properly, or the cd is damaged , try downloading again and burn another cd, if possible
[02:38] <dalton2345> keeper...the weirdest thing....i used that cd for another install and went well
[02:39] <kgoetz> !wifi | ccarr013
[02:39] <ubotu> ccarr013: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <ccarr013> thanx so much
[02:39] <keeper> could be that the cd has been damaged since that install
[02:39] <kgoetz> np
[02:39] <billytwowilly> how do I make a directory readable/writeable recursively by everyone?
[02:40] <kgoetz> billytwowilly: chmod
[02:40] <billytwowilly> yah, chmod what though?
[02:40] <kgoetz> -R +o-rw or something
[02:40]  * kgoetz doesnt use letter notation
[02:41] <ar0nic> flipstar ever heard of automatix
[02:41] <ar0nic> or anyone for that matter
[02:41] <kgoetz> !automatix | ar0nic
[02:41] <ubotu> ar0nic: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[02:41] <ForgeAus> hehe use 777 for full permissions
[02:41] <kgoetz> just dont...
[02:41] <ForgeAus> ie sudo chmod 777 /path/to/directory
[02:42] <ar0nic> well its worth a shot
[02:42] <ar0nic> nothing else has worked
[02:42] <billytwowilly> yah, I know about 777, I don't know how to specify recursive so all stuff under dir get same permissions
[02:42] <kgoetz> billytwowilly: -R
[02:42] <^JSN> how do you join a workgroup on kubuntu?  I see an option for a domain but not for a work group
[02:42] <ar0nic> i cannot for anything to get my players to play video
[02:42] <ForgeAus> billy use chmod --help
[02:42] <ForgeAus> that should tell you :)
[02:43] <ForgeAus> (note: kgoetz was right about the -R according to what chmod --help told me
[02:43] <keeper> yeah chmod -R a+rw ./ should set read and write access for all, recursivley in the current directory
[02:43] <ForgeAus> that doesn't help me with my winuser problem
[02:43] <kgoetz> ar0nic: sure its a codec thing, not an xorg/driver thing?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> I can't seem to chmod and/or chown the user directory
[02:44] <ForgeAus> probably a filesystem thing
[02:44] <ForgeAus> (ie cofs/ntfs instead of ext3)
[02:44] <billytwowilly> thanks
[02:44] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: what is cofs?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> hmm maybe I can fix that
[02:44] <ForgeAus> cofs = colinux file system
[02:44] <kgoetz> oh.
[02:44] <keeper> do you have permissions to chmod and/or chown ?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> um root does
[02:45] <ForgeAus> and even root can't change it
[02:45] <ForgeAus> well the command goes through without error but doesn't make the actual change
[02:45] <ar0nic> well eveything else works kgoetz
[02:45] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what is 'everything else'?
[02:45] <ar0nic> it identifies all video hardware properly
[02:45] <ForgeAus> it still doesn't make sense tho because root user can write to it
[02:46] <ForgeAus> problem is I can't (or don't want to?) set root user's home to be /mnt/and lol
[02:46] <ForgeAus> looks like thats about the only way to do it
[02:47] <ForgeAus> ok trying something else
[02:47] <kgoetz> ar0nic: that doesnt really answer the question
[02:47] <kubuntu_> hello
[02:47] <kubuntu_> alguien q hable español?
[02:48] <kgoetz> kubuntu_: try #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <ar0nic> well whaat would you suggest
[02:48] <kgoetz> kubuntu_: try #kubuntu-es (oops)
[02:48] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what does 'everything else works' mean?
[02:49] <ForgeAus> bbl
[02:49] <ar0nic> the system identifies the hardware as what it is
[02:49] <ar0nic> there are no video errors etc
[02:50] <arrrghhh> can i use x11vnc to login to my machine remotely?  it says it cannot connect to any display manager, and i'm sure the computer is just sitting at the login screen waiting for someone to type the password in.
[02:50] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what is the video card? what are the drivers?
[02:50] <ar0nic> ati radeon
[02:50] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: does the other machine have xdmcp/vnc running?
[02:51] <ar0nic> havent installed any drivers as it recognized it during install and such
[02:51] <arrrghhh> kgoetz, the server?  it has x11vnc and ssh.... i'm not sure if xdmcp is running on it.
[02:51] <ar0nic> sorry im still a boot of a noob but ive been tyring to work this issue all day
[02:51] <ar0nic> ive read every codec tutorial there is heh
[02:52] <kgoetz> ar0nic: can you pastebin `grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf` , `lsb_release -a` and `lspci |grep VGA`
[02:52] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: and x11vnc is running on the srever, and listening on an external interface?
[02:53] <ForgeAus> anyone here use mldonkey?
[02:53] <arrrghhh> kgoetz, yes.  not sure what you mean by external interface, but if i was logged in i would be able to use it.  i was working on it, and i rebooted it.  now i can't vnc into it, but ssh/apache work.
[02:53] <ForgeAus> anyone know how to put my /.mldonkey in a place other than ~/ ?
[02:53] <ForgeAus> that way I dont need the winuser user
[02:53] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: odd. i dont know x11vnc at all, so i cant really help
[02:54] <ar0nic> kgoetz:
[02:54] <ar0nic>        Driver          "kbd"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "mouse"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "synaptics"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "ati"
[02:54] <arrrghhh> ar0nic, not in here
[02:54] <ForgeAus> I guess the mlnet command lets you somehow
[02:54] <arrrghhh> pastebin...
[02:54] <arrrghhh> and kgoetz... how would it work with regular vnc?
[02:54] <ForgeAus> heeh I don't get why 7 short lines is considered a flood but anyway...
[02:54] <kgoetz> !tell ar0nic about pastebin
[02:55] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: dont know. i only ever forward stuff over ssh
[02:55] <fignew> ForgeAus: because there's 301 people in this channel ;)
[02:55] <keeper> !pastebin | ar0nic
[02:55] <ubotu> ar0nic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:55] <kgoetz> keeper: i told him...
[02:55] <ar0nic> sorry guys
[02:55] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i've had people on irc get pissed about 2 lines.
[02:56] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh yes I've seen that too and I still can't fathom it
[02:56] <keeper> oops, sorry about that kgoetz
[02:56] <ForgeAus> fignew what does the amount of users matter?
[02:56] <fignew> because it can get busy as heck in here
[02:57] <ForgeAus> thats what scrollbars are for :)
[02:57] <fignew> and if someone has a question... and it scrolls off screen, a helper might not see it & be able to help :)
[02:57] <arrrghhh> meh people are picky.  especially when there's anonymonity involved.
[02:57] <kgoetz> #debian kicks when you paste > 5 lines, which i think is good
[02:57] <ar0nic> kgoetz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59556/
[02:58] <kgoetz> ar0nic: i would have thought with teh ati driver you could look at video - i might have to let someone else try and help you.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> so has anyone here used vnc to login to a machine remotely?  seems pretty simple, setting it up was a snap.
[02:59] <ar0nic> oh kgoetz
[02:59] <ar0nic> here
[02:59] <^JSN> Is there a way to join a workgroup in kbuntu networking?? The only option i can find is domain
[02:59] <ar0nic> for the last command
[02:59] <ar0nic> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:00] <kgoetz> ar0nic: oh, snap :D
[03:00] <kgoetz> ar0nic: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:01] <basy> Anybody know tool for utf8 character map translations for kubuntu? Something like for example when i paste [ž] i recive [&#382;] ....
[03:01] <yuri_> hi ppl!
[03:01] <kgoetz> ^JSN: what do you mean?
[03:01] <yuri_> i got a little problem can some one guide me to install cedega?
[03:01] <kgoetz> !cedega | yuri_
[03:01] <ubotu> yuri_: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:01] <arrrghhh> yuri_, that's a paid-for service.  they should help cuz you're PAYING them.
[03:01] <yuri_> k
[03:01] <yuri_> ty
[03:02] <^JSN> i mean with windows machines, for a small network you join a work group. for a large networks you join domains.  all i see in kbuntu is domain
[03:02] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, what are you trying to do, file sharing with windows machines?
[03:02] <kgoetz> ubotu: no, cedega is cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega or ask the irc channel #cedega
[03:03] <^JSN> yep
[03:03] <yuri_> how i can change directory in console?...
[03:03] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, then there's no reason to connect to a workgroup.
[03:03] <arrrghhh> yuri_, cd
[03:03] <arrrghhh> !bash | yuri_
[03:03] <ubotu> yuri_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:04] <^JSN> arrghh:  how do you do file shareing without being able to see the other computer on the LAN?
[03:05] <ForgeAus> JSN??? um I don't think thats a good idea
[03:06] <ForgeAus> but if your talkinga bout samba don't search by name use IP's instead
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, did you go to remote places?
[03:06] <^JSN> YES
[03:06] <^JSN> sorry for the caps
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, and there's no need to do that either.
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, when i went to my uncles house his computers just showed up in remote places... i dunno.
[03:07] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, you went to the "Samba Shares" icon right?
[03:08] <^JSN> no i did now though and your right, it is there
[03:09] <^JSN> what is the login authorization?  i tried the username and password of my desktop and it's not letting me in
[03:09] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, i have no idea, that's created on your windows box that's sharing it.
[03:10] <^JSN> well what would it be if you were trying to get onto another ubuntu box?
[03:11] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, i would assume the username/pass you use to login... if that's not working try creating another user on the windows box... my uncle had a dummy acct for that as i recall, but i could be wrong.
[03:12] <^JSN> ok thanks
[03:14] <jerbear> does anyone know of a good OSD program to use in scripts (other than xosd)?
[03:17] <arrrghhh> so there's instructions on how to "VNC Server with Login Screen via GDM" but nothing with KDM... wtf...
[03:20] <some_dud> about how much ram does kde use ?
[03:23] <arrrghhh> some_dud, uh... that really depends on what you're doing.  you can see how much it's using by going to kinfocenter and click memory.
[03:24] <some_dud> I have 83mbs of ram left, but it's using 64% for disk cache, so that's not to bad right ?
[03:25] <fignew> cache = good
[03:25] <spawn57> hi folks, I dunno why knetworkmanager isn't showing my wireless connection.  It shows it fine in my the network settings applet in control center though
[03:25] <some_dud> that's going to be over a gig of cache
[03:26] <fignew> some_dud: the more the better
[03:26] <fignew> cache is pretty much = free ram
[03:26] <fignew> if the kernel needs room for a program... it can erase the cache :)
[03:26] <some_dud> my firefox is just a little slow when I'm restoring it from the task bar
[03:27] <Jucato> nah, that's just firefox being naturally like that :)
[03:27] <some_dud> oh, well if that's the case ...
[03:27] <spawn57> hopefully ff3 fixes that soon
[03:27] <some_dud> still less ram usage than vista :P
[03:28] <Jucato> some_dud: Windows and Linux utilize RAM differently
[03:28] <Jucato> !ram
[03:28] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[03:28] <fignew> you could just use konqueror ;)
[03:28] <some_dud> is it faster ?
[03:28] <spawn57> yeah
[03:28] <spawn57> konqueror is blazing fast
[03:29] <Jucato> !kubuntu | manatatas
[03:29] <ubotu> manatatas: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:29] <Jucato> manatatas: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[03:30] <some_dud> doesn't konqueror use the geko engine /
[03:30] <Jucato> (hell no)
[03:31] <some_dud> I can't have cookies in konqueror for some reason
[03:32] <fignew> some_dud: sure you can :)
[03:32] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cookies or Tools -> HTML Settings -> Cookie (per page basis)
[03:32] <fignew> Jucato: exactly :)
[03:32] <some_dud> I'm getting an error
[03:33] <fignew> some_dud: it says?
[03:34] <some_dud> the error seems to be gone now, but it said something about the cookies manager not be found
[03:35] <erkel> turning frame buffer off in GRUB doesn't work either, anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong, or how to fix it
[03:36] <keeper> I can give more information about the problem, if anyone didn't see it the first time i asked
[03:37] <oren> i cant get sound to work on any video files?
[03:37] <oren> linux is such a pita
[03:37] <keeper> can problems be caused by having framebuffer on as well as having it turned off ?
[03:38] <some_dud> I was thinking of using gnome, but I seem to hate gnome most of the time
[03:39] <keeper> oren, is there no sound at all, or just no sound when playing video files ?
[03:39] <keeper> some_dud, #kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to talk
[03:40] <leo_rockw> greetings
[03:43] <arrrghhh> oren, is kmix running?
[03:44] <majestic> hello,,I was wondering if someone can point me to the direction creating a raid 1 within the installation wizard?
[03:45] <arrrghhh> actually sound has never worked on this laptop with kubuntu.  can someone help me?  kmix is running and i thought it was an issue with it not having an available mixer or whatever, but it seems to be working...  i have volume controls.
[03:46] <arrrghhh> and yes the volume is turned all the way up on both the laptop's manual control and kmix.
[03:48] <arrrghhh> anyone?  keeper?  lol
[03:48] <keeper> do you know if the drivers are installed ?
[03:49] <arrrghhh> i'm not even sure how to troubleshoot the problem.  keeper i have no idea, with every kubuntu installation i've done i never had to install any drivers for sound.
[03:49] <keeper> same laptop each time?
[03:49] <arrrghhh> it looks like they are.  keeper no, i've done a lot of installations of kubuntu.  well, a lot for me at least.  about 10 or so unique machines, and this is the only one i've had sound issues with.
[03:50] <majestic> hello,,I was wondering if someone can point me to the direction creating a raid 1 within the installation wizard?
[03:50] <keeper> can you paste the output from  lspci?
[03:51] <arrrghhh> good lord one sec.
[03:52] <arrrghhh> keeper, http://pastebin.com/d99a6650
[03:52] <arrrghhh> !raid
[03:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:52] <arrrghhh> majestic, good places to look.
[03:53] <babeck> Does anyone know how to change the transparency of the background of the kde 4 konsole?  I try to change it from Edit Current Profile, and regardless of what setting I put it to, it's still perfectly opaque.
[03:53] <leo_rockw> !kde4 | babeck
[03:53] <ubotu> babeck: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:54] <babeck> leo_rockw: thank you
[03:54] <leo_rockw> babeck: np
[03:54] <arrrghhh> "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/fs/inotify.c:172 set_dentry_child_flags()" - i noticed a lot of these errors in dmesg.  what do they mean?
[03:54] <leo_rockw> babeck: i only toyed w/ kde4, if i had the answer i would help you here :-P
[03:55] <babeck> leo_rockw: I wasn't certain how I felt about it until 4.0.1, but now I'm afraid there's no going back for me.
[03:56] <arrrghhh> i should check out 4.0.2.  is there a lot of improvement on the configuration side?
[03:56] <manatatas> are there any screeenshots of newest kde?
[03:56] <leo_rockw> babeck: i have everything tunned up on my 3.5.9... i'm not ready to leave yet lol
[03:57] <leo_rockw> manatatas: the looks of 4.0.2 and 4.0.0 are basically the same. it's just less buggy
[03:57] <babeck> arrrghhh: Honestly, the configuration has gotten better, it's no where near 3.5.
[03:57] <arrrghhh> keeper, did that help?
[03:57] <manatatas> leo_rockw: where can i see it?
[03:57] <leo_rockw> babeck: and there's no amarok 2 yet :-P
[03:57] <arrrghhh> !kde4 | manatatas
[03:57] <ubotu> manatatas: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:57] <leo_rockw> manatatas: i would say you have a good chance of finding screenshots in google
[03:57] <arrrghhh> there's screenshots there
[03:58] <babeck> leo_rockw: good point, but really how do you improve on perfection?
[03:58] <jerbear> anyone using hardy heron yet? how is it?
[03:58] <keeper> yeah, I'm just trying to work out what could be wrong
[03:58] <leo_rockw> babeck: give me my final release amarok 2! lol
[03:58] <arrrghhh> i think... lol
[03:58] <oscar> hi
[03:58] <Jucato> jerbear: #ubuntu+1 please (but it's still in alpha, almost beta)
[03:58] <arrrghhh> keeper, oh ok... yea i have no clue, i've never had to wrestle with sound on any kubuntu install.  i've had to wrestle with video, but never sound.
[03:59] <leo_rockw> hey oscar
[03:59] <babeck> leo_rockw: You see the latest screenshots?  It is starting to shape up pretty well.
[03:59] <leo_rockw> babeck: for amarok? i have it installed
[03:59] <babeck> leo_rockw: oh even better.  how are you liking it?
[04:00] <keeper> arrrghhh, is there any sound if you run the program as root ?
[04:00] <leo_rockw> babeck: i can up a screenshot if you want to see it
[04:00] <arrrghhh> keeper, "the" program?  kmix, or the program that is actually playing the sound?
[04:00] <leo_rockw> babeck: it's still very buggy (like, i would try to run it and it would crash)
[04:00] <babeck> that would be awesome
[04:01] <keeper> yeah ie. kdesu amarok
[04:01] <leo_rockw> babeck: like it happened right now lol: Amarok has crashed! We are terribly sorry about this :(But, all is not lost! Perhaps an upgrade is already available which fixes the problem. Please check your distribution's software repository.
[04:01] <arrrghhh> keeper, i did "sudo vlc" and dragged a video on to it.  no sound.
[04:02] <babeck> leo_rockw: I like the part about an upgrade being available. lol
[04:02] <babeck> leo_rockw: you build it from svn?
[04:02] <leo_rockw> babeck: no, kubuntu repos
[04:02] <leo_rockw> babeck: same way i installed kde4 and koffice 2
[04:03] <oscar> hi everybody, there is any command for check ir my xgl rendering is activated?
[04:04] <babeck> leo_rockw: Ah I think I may already have that.  Does it look like this: http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/605-Nearing-first-alpha,-and-lots-of-cool-new-stuff.html
[04:04] <Jucato> not sure about xgl, but in general, it's "glxinfo | grep render"
[04:04] <keeper> just as a side note arrrghhh, use kdesu for running GUI programs rather than sudo,
[04:04] <oscar> I cannot run compiz on my kubuntu Gutsy
[04:04] <oscar> ok Jucato thanks I'l try
[04:05] <arrrghhh> keeper, i also tried vlc (as root) with some plain audio stuff.  the progress bar moves, and if there's video it the video plays.  and sudo vlc worked... i dunno.
[04:05] <leo_rockw> babeck: yeah, but mine has a huge sign on top saying "don't report bugs. pre-alpha means: we know it's unstable"
[04:05] <leo_rockw> babeck: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5783/amarok1ur2.png
[04:05] <arrrghhh> keeper, kdesu vlc just gave me the gui admin password screen.
[04:06] <oscar> glxinfo | grep render returns direct rendering "yes"
[04:06] <oscar> but i cannot initialize compiz
[04:06] <leo_rockw> oscar: why do you need xgl?
[04:06] <StevenJ> Hello, is anyone here to answer questions about tripple boot?
[04:06] <leo_rockw> babeck: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8205/amarok2xs4.png
[04:07] <keeper> it seems there have been alot of problems with intel ICH6 soundcards, but i would have thought the problem would be solved by now as it has been around for awhile
[04:07] <oscar> I am trying to activate compiz
[04:07] <leo_rockw> oscar: what video card?
[04:07] <arrrghhh> jeez amarok has a long way to go before it's final...
[04:07] <leo_rockw> arrrghhh: yup, def
[04:07] <oscar> Intel 945
[04:08] <oscar> leo rockw: im trying the command compiz --replace
[04:08] <leo_rockw> oscar: oh, i was gonna say that both ati and nvidia provide aiglx
[04:08] <babeck> leo_rockw: that's what i've got, I've yet to fall in love with it  yet.
[04:08] <basy> Hi, I'm looking for text editor that can do this: i have 200 lines in file, each 20 chacters and i want to cut lines 101 to 200 and past them to end of lines 1 to 100, so result 100 lines each 40chars...
[04:08] <oscar> it returns checking for Xgl: not present
[04:08] <arrrghhh> keeper, well what's strange is when i set my sound system to ALSA it just continually has the "restarting the sound system" window up, and it goes to 100% and then starts over.  if i set it to "autodetect" it restarts the sound system no problem...
[04:08] <leo_rockw> basy: do a python script
[04:09] <StevenJ> I currently have a couple partions setup. 1ST Primary Partion is XP. 2ND Primary Partion is XP64. The next partion is an extended with 3 logical partions as root / swawp and /home directory. After installing Linux Mint (a build off kubuntu) the computer restarts but no grub was loaded. Any thoughts?
[04:09] <basy> leo_rockw: i have no experience :(
[04:09] <leo_rockw> basy: it's a good time to start learning :-D
[04:09] <oscar> I have ran compiz fusion using ubuntu
[04:09] <leo_rockw> basy: python is really not hard for people without programming experience
[04:09] <oscar> but now in KDE i can't activate it
[04:10] <basy> leo_rockw: how to start?
[04:10] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, have you tried supergrub?
[04:10] <StevenJ> arrrghhh, I keep reading about supergrub, but I downloaded and ran it and wasn't really to sure how it worked.
[04:10] <arrrghhh> linux mint is trash anyways... my that's just my opinion.
[04:11] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, it will attempt to fix grub...
[04:12] <StevenJ> arrrghhh, will it destroy my already functional boot.ini file on my windows partions? And/OR is there a way I can add Linux to my boot.ini on the windows machine?
[04:12] <oscar> leo rockw: i can see that i have activated indirect rendering and the composite extension
[04:12] <leo_rockw> basy: if you go to python.org there is a documentation link on the left
[04:12] <leo_rockw> basy: the guido von rossum manual is the most complete
[04:12] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, you HAVE TO use grub to load linux.  do you really think microshaft would want you using it's bootloader to boot linux?  at any rate, grub will let you choose all your windows installs just fine.
[04:13] <oscar> but, when konsole said: Starting kde-window-decorator...
[04:13] <arrrghhh> at least it always has for me.  make sure they are all listed when it goes to install it over the windows bootloader.
[04:13] <StevenJ> LOL, true.. But people have said that it can be done..
[04:13] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, it's possible, but grub does it for you.  at least it always has for me like i said.
[04:13] <kgoetz> StevenJ: it wont touch your boot.ini - you should be able to chainload the windows bootloader from grub
[04:13] <leo_rockw> basy: you could get dive into python: http://www.diveintopython.org/index.html
[04:13] <arrrghhh> keeper, any other troubleshooting ideas?  everything seems to be working, but there's simply no sound.
[04:14] <kgoetz> StevenJ: fwiw, your not allowed to use ntloader to boot other os's
[04:14] <oscar> "/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format"
[04:14] <StevenJ> kgoetz: "fwiw"?
[04:14] <arrrghhh> for what it's worth
[04:14] <StevenJ> Oh ok.
[04:15] <keeper> i found this which seemed to be someone else having a similar problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-628342.html
[04:15] <fox> para chat en español
[04:15] <Jucato> !es | fox
[04:15] <ubotu> fox: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:16] <oscar> nickname/ onavarrete
[04:16] <StevenJ> Last question is bout partions.. Is the way I set it up sounds correct to you? 1st Primary XP 2nd Primary XP64 3rd Extended with 3 Logical Partions inside of it that are in the order of EXT3 "/", Swap, EXT3 "/home"? Or do you recommend something else?
[04:16] <StevenJ> about*
[04:16] <babeck> Ok, here's how you get Konsole to have transparency in KDE4 (for anyone that cares).  If you have already opened konsole you must kill any instance of konsole you already have running (pkill konsole in one of the ttys) then alt+f2, enter konsole --enable-transparency.
[04:17]  * Jucato wonders why one needs to pkill in a tty to kill konsole
[04:18] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, sounds fine to me.
[04:19] <StevenJ> Alright, I think I'm gonna give supergrub another shot. Thanks alot for you help arrrghhh and kgoetz.
[04:19] <arrrghhh> np
[04:19] <kgoetz> np
[04:19] <arrrghhh> lol creepy
[04:20] <kgoetz> hehe'
[04:20] <StevenJ> LMAO..
[04:20] <leo_rockw> there was a 1 second delay...
[04:20] <leo_rockw> (at least on my end)
[04:20] <keeper> arrrghhh, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-intel8x0
[04:20] <arrrghhh> leo_rockw, bummer? :P
[04:21] <arrrghhh> the internet is soooooo freakin slow in this hotel that it appeared almost instantaneously on my end.
[04:21] <leo_rockw> arrrghhh: it just wasn't as creepy, haha
[04:21] <arrrghhh> meh
[04:21] <arrrghhh> i did a speed test?  i get 23 kilobytes per second downstream.  hooray just bearly above dialup.
[04:22] <leo_rockw> wait... dial-up was 5.6 for me
[04:22] <arrrghhh> yea.  i'm used to a 5 megabit connection.  this might as well be dialup.
[04:23] <leo_rockw> lol
[04:23] <maduser> 20 mbps
[04:23] <leo_rockw> well, not lol, i feel the pain
[04:24] <arrrghhh> 20 megs is freakin hard to get.  how much you pay for that?
[04:24] <arrrghhh> sorry i guess this is all off-topic huh lol
[04:25] <ForgeAus> kgoetz StevenJ: fwiw, your not allowed to use ntloader to boot other os's   ???
[04:25] <ForgeAus> I'm not so sure thats true
[04:25] <ForgeAus> why wouldn't you be allowed?
[04:25] <arrrghhh> i'm wondering if it's the wifi here.  i need to make myself a patch cable at work tomorrow.  and ForgeAus, microshaft doesn't want you to.  it's probably doable, but they don't want you to do it so they're gonna make it very difficult.
[04:26] <ForgeAus> the only reason i know of that ntloader can't boot linux is because it doesn't have a way to use a bootstring.... but you can use a bootsector image (like from using the dd command)
[04:26] <ForgeAus> what do you mean they don't want you to?
[04:26] <ForgeAus> what they wan't doesn't factor into it
[04:26] <arrrghhh> uhm... they don't want you to?  microsoft doesn't want you to?
[04:26] <arrrghhh> well if they wanted you to it would be easy... that's my point.
[04:27] <ForgeAus> who say's it isn't easy? just make a disk dump of the boot sector and refer to it in boot.ini
[04:27] <ForgeAus> and voila
[04:27] <ForgeAus> thats not so difficult is it?
[04:27] <kgoetz> your welcome to, but i dont see why your going to bother tbh
[04:27] <kgoetz> seems like a waste of time
[04:28] <arrrghhh> yea i'm with kgoetz on this one.
[04:28] <ForgeAus> kgoetz I guess it might be... I don' t know, depends on what you need it for
[04:28] <arrrghhh> i mean grub did it all for me.  why would i want to do more work just so i can use the microsoft boot loader?
[04:28] <ForgeAus> but I was just objecting to the whole "not allowed" thing
[04:29] <kgoetz> its not, but thats a seperate issue
[04:29] <ForgeAus> arrghhh what I don't understand is why you need 2 different boot loaders
[04:30] <ForgeAus> they're doing the same job just for different operating systems
[04:30] <keeper> !search partition
[04:30] <ubotu> Found: partitioning, ntfs, disks, fstab, uuid, partition, gparted, ntfs-3g, home, mount-#kubuntu
[04:31] <keeper> !tell keeper about partitioning
[04:31] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: you need two because one hasnt been updated since 1985 and only supports a small number of systems properly (microsofts), and one is contantly updated, and supports multiple os's
[04:32] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i use grub.... i don't need 2 bootloaders.
[04:32] <ForgeAus> kgoetz thats not entirely true Vista too has a bootloader, but yet still no support for boot strings
[04:32] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh how do you boot windows? (or isn't windows your other operating system?)
[04:33] <ForgeAus> generally one chains from grub to their windows boot loader...
[04:33] <ForgeAus> which means you are useing 2
[04:33] <arrrghhh> i don't really boot windoze but i select it from grub...
[04:34] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh fine select an os from grub as your primary boot loader but if you want to boot another operating system from there mostly you chain to the other one right?
[04:34] <ForgeAus> really you should only need one
[04:34] <arrrghhh> meh
[04:35] <ForgeAus> (apparently according to microsoft they put some effort into making Vista's boot loader generic)
[04:35] <ForgeAus> but even if thats the case there will probably be nowhere to support a boot string...
[04:35] <arrrghhh> i haven't booted windows in ages, i don't even have it on my main computer anymore just this laptop for games.
[04:36] <mika__> hi all
[04:38] <arrrghhh> hi mika__
[04:38] <mika__> arrrghhh ... hi I have problem with flash not having sound
[04:38] <arrrghhh> just adobe flash in web pages you mean?
[04:39] <mika__> arrrghhh ... nope, installed flash_plugin-non free with adept
[04:39] <mika__> (I'm on 64 bit system) so cant install from adobe website
[04:39] <arrrghhh> well that didn't answer my question exactly but OK.  so you use firefox?
[04:40] <mika__> ahh .. well youtube
[04:40] <arrrghhh> oh flash doesn't work with 64-bit.  i heard you have to run a 32-bit browser... sorry
[04:40] <arrrghhh> i switched back to 32-bit mainly due to the flash issue.  i can't believe adobe still has not released a 64-bit version... i figured adobe would be more on top of it.
[04:40] <mika__> I see
[04:41] <arrrghhh> ja... sorry.  run a 32-bit browser or go back to pure 32-bit.  i didn't notice a difference in performance at all.  until EVERYTHING is 64-bit, i don't think it really matters.
[04:41] <arrrghhh> reboot, brb.
[04:41] <mika__> ok
[04:47] <arrrghhh> still no sound
[04:47] <arrrghhh> and why does kubuntu save all my open programs by default?  i never asked it to do that, it just does.
[04:48] <ForgeAus> what do you mean by "save all your open programs by default" ?
[04:48] <ForgeAus> you mean session management?
[04:49] <arrrghhh> sure.  like i restart... which never works on this machine for some reason... and when i boot back in, it reinstates all the programs i had open when i went to restart it.
[04:51] <ForgeAus> yeah it stores your session information, normally does so because it tries to recover to the same state if you have a crash or something like that
[04:51] <arrrghhh> yea for whatever reason whenever i restart this machine it fills the progress bar and just sits there forever.  i just hold the power button until it turns off.  if i shut it down, it turns off just fine.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> try pressing the enter key instead of turning it off
[04:52] <arrrghhh> can i turn that off?  i want a fresh new session every time.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> um not sure, there probably is a way but I can't think where its set
[04:52] <arrrghhh> it doesn't do anything.  i tried enter, ctrl-alt-del, ctrl-c, ctrl-x.  nothing.
[04:53] <ForgeAus> probably in system-settings administration somewhere I guess
[04:53] <arrrghhh> does anyone know where the session management stuff is?  stupid gnome asks you.
[04:53] <ForgeAus> Jucato would know if he were paying attention, he's probaly asleep or something...
[04:54] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager
[04:54]  * Jucato yawns
[04:54] <ForgeAus> see :)
[04:54] <Jucato> I was about too until I got pinged
[04:54] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i found it.  oh and you did too lol
[04:54] <ForgeAus> thanx Jucato
[04:55] <arrrghhh> indeed, thank you.  now if i could only get sound working...
[04:55] <Jucato> arrrghhh: just a word of caution, once you start with a completely blank session, some apps that you might have thought were autostarted by default might not be running anymore
[04:55] <Jucato> (kmix, katapult, etc)
[04:55] <arrrghhh> Jucato, yea i ran into that problem before, i just put whatever i needed in autostart.  thanks for mentioning that tho.
[04:59] <psilocyde> Hi folks, Broke my Wireless somehow on my laptop. Can anyone tell me how to get my network setting to default I.e. similar to after A fresh install?
[04:59] <psilocyde> Im running 7.10
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: 2 things, was it being controlled by knetworkmanager originally
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and...  did you go to manual configuration at some point?
[05:01] <psilocyde> Daisuke yes
[05:01] <psilocyde> yes on you sec ?
[05:02] <psilocyde> so yes x2
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:03] <StevenJ> Yea no luck with supergrub. It couldn't even boot the partition.
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: and look for your wireless interface in there
[05:04] <Daisuke_Ido> iface wlan0 or ath0 or eth1 or ra0...  something like that
[05:04] <psilocyde> ok its on another install on this machine i would have to reboot
[05:04] <keeper> I'm not sure how to set up LVM partitions using the alternative cd - manual install, is there any related info or documentation on it ?
[05:04] <psilocyde> so what am i looking for? to see if its active? or...
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's in that file, remove it
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> that will give knetworkmanager control of the interface again
[05:05] <psilocyde> ah ok
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and it should be back to normal
[05:06] <psilocyde> ok so /etc/network/interfaces and remove the entry for my eth card
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> for your wireless
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> whatever that happens to be
[05:07] <psilocyde> ok yes, thank you. will give it a go
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> best of luck, see you in a few
[05:08] <psilocyde> its the intel 3495
[05:08] <psilocyde> if that matters
[05:08] <psilocyde> ok brb
[05:09] <mika__> quick question ... what is the kde version of gdebi, or is there any ?
[05:12] <leo_rockw> mika__: gdebi-kde
[05:12] <foibles> hi there
[05:12] <foibles> im having trouble playing HD video formats
[05:12] <leo_rockw> hey foibles
[05:13] <foibles> they render somewhat pixellated
[05:13] <foibles> leo_rockw, hello there
[05:13] <leo_rockw> i'll be afk for a while
[05:14] <mika__> ok thanks ... umm .. firefox flash still no sound (64 bit)
[05:14] <mika__> bummer
[05:16] <foibles> is there a codec for gutsy missing that doesn't allow for the correct playing of HD media?
[05:20] <some_dud> when I install the server versin, and then kde from the net, the codecs work, but off the dvd, nope
[05:21] <keeper> if you have all the codecs installed, it could be your video drivers
[05:22] <keeper> what video card do you have, and what drivers do you have installed ?
[05:22] <User249> I can't get X to start. I installed KDE 4 on my kubuntu machine to try by adding the launchpad repo. I used the same commands to uninstall as I used to install, but apparantly they were ambiguous and uninstalled parts of my KDE 3 as well.
[05:23] <StevenJ> Whats the difference between: kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso and kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[05:23] <User249> these packages were kdebase-bin, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime
[05:23] <User249> i've reinstalled them, and nothing in the X11 log file looks bad, so i'm not sure what's missing
[05:24] <keeper> alternative is just a text based installer, wheras the desktop is the livecd + GUI installer
[05:24] <User249> question: if you bork your KDE installation on Kubuntu, how can you revert it to default?
[05:24] <StevenJ> keeper, thank you very much.
[05:25] <awag22> User249: click on the unbork button
[05:25] <keeper> User249, with or without reinstalling ?
[05:25] <User249> without reinstalling
[05:25] <keeper> np StevenJ
[05:26] <keeper> what has gone wrong with your install, User249 ?
[05:27] <User249> i installed KDE 4 and then went to uninstall it. i didn't realize some of the package names were ambiguous, since the site said they would be separated
[05:27] <StevenJ> Any recommendation on a fast server to download it from keeper?
[05:27] <User249> i basically did this: apt-get install kdebase-bin kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 (followed by an install)
[05:27] <User249> (followed by a remove, sorry)
[05:28] <StevenJ> I was trying the USC Santa Barbra, no bueno. And the torrent is going like 6K.. not good either.
[05:28] <keeper> StevenJ, just try to find a mirror as close to you as possible, sometimes your isp will host the image also
[05:29] <StevenJ> I'm with RR... if you happen to know if they have it.. That would be cool. Yea I tried the Santa Barbra server and was only pulling 23K
[05:30] <StevenJ> I'm here in California.
[05:30] <User249> when I boot now it just takes me to a tty
[05:31] <StevenJ> Whats the difference between the CD and the DVD?
[05:31] <keeper> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[05:32] <StevenJ> 4Gbps sounds nice to me..
[05:34] <StevenJ> Ty
[05:35] <foibles> what can i use to format a partition i have as ntfs
[05:35] <foibles> gparted doesn't seem to want to do the job for me
[05:36] <StevenJ> What happened with Gparted?
[05:36] <foibles> it doesn't have it available as an option
[05:36] <foibles> "ntfs" is greyed out
[05:36] <foibles> ive got 11 perfectly good gigs that i need to keep windows readable
[05:36] <StevenJ> Do you have any other partions?
[05:36] <foibles> yeah
[05:37] <StevenJ> Are you trying to create a new ntfs partion from unallocated space? Or are you trying to delete the NTFS partition?
[05:38] <User249> well i found the problem
[05:38] <User249> kdm was no longer installed
[05:38] <foibles> it actually already was ntfs
[05:38] <foibles> as a windows partition
[05:38] <foibles> but i reformatted it to ext3
[05:38] <foibles> and i just want to put it back as ntfs
[05:38] <foibles> how would i delete it clean
[05:39] <StevenJ> You should be able to use Gparted to delete the partion. Then with the free unallocated space be able to create a new ntfs partion. Or just leave it blank and try to format it with a windows XP/Vista disk or 2000 if your still using that.
[05:39] <psilocyde> Daisuke_Ido: Awsome! thank you so much. Im Live and typing!
[05:40] <psilocyde> *awesome even,
[05:41] <psilocyde> thanks again
[05:41] <StevenJ> Did you try deleting the ext3 partion?
[05:41] <foibles> StevenJ, trying that out now
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome :D
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> congratulations, glad that worked for you
[05:44] <psilocyde> yes, im very happy. Now i need to figure out my sound problems
[05:44] <psilocyde> I get very low sound. alsa seems to be busted
[05:44] <psilocyde> or something
[05:45] <foibles> gparted just does it uncannilly fast
[05:45] <foibles> like delete, bam! done
[05:45] <StevenJ> Well its not done until you hit apply...
[05:45] <mika__> psilocyde .. tell me about it, I had my share of sound problems
[05:45] <foibles> leads me to believe it really didn't do anything
[05:45] <foibles> from livecd it always takes a while
[05:45] <psilocyde> ya,
[05:45] <StevenJ> Did you hit apply though?
[05:45] <foibles> StevenJ, yes
[05:46] <mika__> psilocyde ... got all working finally though ..
[05:46] <StevenJ> Did you got back and try to create your NTFS partion on the unallocated space left from deleting that ext3 partion? did it let you?
[05:46] <psilocyde> mika: nice
[05:46] <foibles> doing so right now
[05:46] <foibles> gah, i just had two red bulls
[05:46] <psilocyde> ive got an intel sound chip onboard
[05:46] <mika__> psilocyde .. what sort of sound problem do you have ?
[05:46] <foibles> i feel messed up
[05:46] <psilocyde> been a pain in the but
[05:47] <psilocyde> i get very low volume
[05:47] <StevenJ> Are you going to be loading XP or a Windows OS onto that partion you are creating.. Or is there already xp loaded and your trying to create a second ntfs partion?
[05:47] <psilocyde> alsa mixer is stuck on mute
[05:47] <foibles> its just going to be storage space
[05:48] <foibles> it was formerly my XP partition
[05:48] <mika__> psilocyde .. try recompiling latest alsa
[05:48] <foibles> but i don't need m$ anymore
[05:48] <foibles> and am making a full migration off dual boot
[05:48] <foibles> was having trouble getting fstab to recognize ext3, so im going back to ntfs
[05:49] <psilocyde> explain "recompile" please. Im a linux newb
[05:49] <psilocyde> or ill google
[05:49] <mika__> psilocyde .. let me see if I can get you a link
[05:50] <psilocyde> wonderful
[05:54] <foibles> StevenJ, yup its still greyed out
[05:54] <foibles> after deleting it
[05:54] <foibles> as is xfs
[05:54] <foibles> which would have been my next choice
[05:54] <StevenJ> The only other thing I can think of...
[05:54] <StevenJ> Is boot to XP..
[05:54] <StevenJ> and see if you can delete the partition using the Disk Manager..
[05:55] <StevenJ> And then formating it with NTFS
[05:55] <foibles> StevenJ, i think thats what i did for the other ntfs partition i made
[05:55] <foibles> but thats a real hassle
[05:55] <foibles> its so slow
[05:55] <StevenJ> or using a windows based 3rd party software such as Partion Magic or DriveCopyPro
[05:55] <StevenJ> Click "Quick Format"
[05:55] <StevenJ> then it will go faster..
[05:56] <foibles> perhaps
[05:57] <mika__> psilocyde .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:57] <mika__> psilocyde .. took a while to find that
[05:57] <StevenJ> Well sometimes the easier longer way is better then trying to figure out a new way that you don't even know if it will work.
[05:58] <psilocyde> ty so much, didnt seem long at all
[05:58] <StevenJ> Its wierd that Gparted didn't work for you the way you wanted to.. It usually works flawlessly for me. Did it even fully delete that ext3 partion even if it didn't let you format to a ntfs partion?
[05:58] <mika__> psilocyde .. I just recently installed kubuntu and 1st did not have sound at all
[05:58] <psilocyde> i have internet to distract me thanks to you :)
[05:59] <psilocyde> oh wait that was daiku. sorry daiku
[05:59] <StevenJ> You also want to check and see if there are any flags marked on it (if your still in gparted) sometimes there are flags marked that make it do certian things they may hinder what you really want to do with it.
[05:59] <mika__> psilocyde .. so esp that part which explains how to get & compile latest version of ALSA might work for you,
[05:59] <psilocyde> mika__ do you have the intel sound as well
[06:00] <mika__> psilocyde .. yes I have ...
[06:00] <psilocyde> ah cool
[06:00] <mika__> psilocyde .. I'm on 64bit gutsy
[06:01] <psilocyde> ah ok
[06:01] <StevenJ> mika__, out of curiousity, how does the 64 bit run compared to the 32 bit?
[06:01] <mika__> psilocyde .. if you're on 32bit should be easier to get flash working
[06:01] <psilocyde> oh good
[06:01] <StevenJ> Yea I don't believe flash even worked on 64bit XP the last time I was on it..
[06:01] <StevenJ> If that helps you any...
[06:02] <mika__> Stevenj .. honestly I cant tell much difference on performance
[06:02] <StevenJ> Ahh ok..
[06:02] <mika__> Stevenj .. however havent been running this for long ... just 2 days .. mostly trying to get sund working + flash
[06:03] <mika__> Stevenj .. anyways, I managed to get flash working ok .. even with firefox (youtube)
[06:03] <StevenJ> is it adobes flash or some 3rd party?
[06:04] <mika__> Stevenj .. installed flashplugin-non-free from ubuntu repos
[06:04] <StevenJ> ahh..
[06:04] <psilocyde> mika__ i need a bit of hand holding here
[06:05] <psilocyde> could you walk me through it?
[06:05] <mika__> psiloclyde .. you want to compile alsa right ?
[06:05] <psilocyde> yes
[06:06] <mika__> psiloclyde .. are you familiarb with konsole ?
[06:06] <psilocyde> im in there
[06:06] <mika__> psilocyde .. did you download the source files yet ?
[06:06] <psilocyde> i have dl'd the kernal headers from the first link
[06:07] <psilocyde> tools and headers
[06:08] <psilocyde> so now i need to know what files from the ftp
[06:08] <mika__> psilocyde .. and did you install build-essential and other needed (sudo aptitude install build-essential libncurses-dev gettext linux-headers-`uname -)
[06:08] <psilocyde> yes
[06:08] <ar0nic> guys ive got hell of an issue with my media codecs and such, ive installed all nessicary players and codecs
[06:08] <ar0nic> and still get sound and no video
[06:08] <mika__> ipsilocyde .. ok if you have done that ... get the source files from alsa site ...
[06:08] <mika__> psilocyde .. you can use wget also from konsole
[06:09] <ar0nic> i think i may of went package crazy but ive also noticed one more thing, when booting ubuntu for a split second it gives a very distorted screen then switches to the kubuntu loadscreen
[06:09] <psilocyde> theres where i need help. what packages from the alsa site
[06:09] <ar0nic> im going to try out envy although the system has my exact vid card recognized
[06:09] <psilocyde> there are many
[06:10] <mika__> psilocyde .. ok .. go to alsa website http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[06:10] <psilocyde> im sorry if im being thick
[06:10] <mika__> psilocyde .. on the top right you see latest versions ..
[06:11] <psilocyde> ok
[06:11] <mika__> psilocyde .. no problem :)
[06:11] <ar0nic> anyone anyone?
[06:12] <Ahmuck> kubuntu hardy channel?
[06:12] <ar0nic> is a distorted screen at bootup if only for a second an indication of bad drivers
[06:12] <mika__> psilocyde .. so you would need alsa-drive, alsa-lib and alsa-utils
[06:13] <mika__> psilocyde .. download those .. that hdaintel howto has pretty good instructions on how to compile them
[06:13] <psilocyde> ok done
[06:14] <mika__> psilocyde .. in konsole follow the instructions from howto site (first link I gave to you)
[06:14] <psilocyde> will do, working with that now thank you
[06:14] <mika__> psilocyde .. great
[06:17] <mika__> psilocyde ... I need to go for a while, good luck with fixing the sound problem
[06:18] <psilocyde> thanks again, take care
[06:18] <mika__> psilocyde .. nb
[06:20] <storbeck> Is sure is quiet on freenode tonight.
[06:20] <ar0nic> yes it is
[06:21] <ar0nic> how you feel about automatix storbeck
[06:21] <storbeck> What is it?
[06:21] <ar0nic> a media package  installer
[06:21] <ar0nic> im having issue with not being able to play any video
[06:21] <ar0nic> sound is a ok
[06:21] <psilocyde> can anyone help where mika__ left off?
[06:21] <ar0nic> video no good
[06:21] <storbeck> I've never used a package installer :P
[06:22] <ar0nic> <--noob
[06:22] <psilocyde> <-----me2
[06:22] <psilocyde> im recompiling the alsa drivers
[06:22] <ar0nic> but ive been all over the net for my issue
[06:22] <psilocyde> getting an error in alsa
[06:22] <ar0nic> and 3 different networks as well
[06:23] <storbeck> w00t for netsplit
[06:23] <ForgeAus> whats the difference between purging and removing packages?
[06:23] <ForgeAus> and how do you reinstall a package with apt-get ?
[06:24] <prince_jammys> purging deletes configuration files, removing doesn't
[06:24] <prince_jammys> so if you remove and then reinstall, your old settings will still be there
[06:24] <psilocyde> says bash: cd: alsa-driver*: No such file or directory
[06:24] <ar0nic> him
[06:24] <ar0nic> hmm*
[06:25] <prince_jammys> ForgeAus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[06:25] <ForgeAus> thanx prince :)
[06:32] <foibles> ok
[06:32] <foibles> whats wrong with this fstab line
[06:32] <foibles> UUID=4ABC7316BC72FBAF /media/hda1     ext3    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:33] <foibles> this is not good and proper for me
[06:33] <foibles> as /media/hda1 is only accessable as root
[06:34] <foibles> anyone?
[06:35] <prince_jammys> it mounts properly, other than the permissions?
[06:35] <foibles> prince_jammys, yes
[06:35] <foibles> ubuntu sees it
[06:36] <prince_jammys> maybe uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007     (if your uid is 1000)
[06:36] <foibles> prince_jammys, it is
[06:36] <foibles> how do i check again?
[06:36] <prince_jammys> echo $UID
[06:37] <foibles> yup
[06:37] <prince_jammys> that's what i use on my NTFS partition
[06:37] <foibles> prince_jammys, it was an ntfs
[06:37] <foibles> now its ext3
[06:37] <foibles> would anything change for that, really?
[06:38] <prince_jammys> i don't know
[06:38] <prince_jammys> you could try those options and remount
[06:38] <ar0nic> for some reason after installing envy drivers i rebooted and it took me straigh to the console...
[06:38] <ere4si> !envy
[06:38] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:38] <foibles> ar0nic, envy is a whack program
[06:39] <ar0nic> im havin an issue getting any videos to play]
[06:39] <ar0nic> sound is fine
[06:39] <ar0nic> everything else is not
[06:39] <ar0nic> and i notice some display when first booting ubuntu
[06:40] <ar0nic> display corruption
[06:40] <storbeck> This is taking longer to compile than a stage 1 gentoo install with all unsupported hardware
[06:40] <ar0nic> then it gives me the kubuntu logo then jumps over to a distorted screen then jumps back
[06:41] <ar0nic> and does this twice while loading
[06:41] <asobi> using nvidia?
[06:41] <ar0nic> ati
[06:41] <ar0nic> hey guys
[06:41] <ar0nic> im trying to load and im getting this message
[06:41] <ar0nic> no resume image, doing normal boot
[06:42] <ar0nic> then it takes me straight to my root login
[06:42] <ere4si> ar0nic, remove envy and use the resticted drivers manager then we can helop
[06:42] <ere4si> *help
[06:42] <ar0nic> ok but i cant get back into kubuntu
[06:42] <ar0nic> how do i load up the kde from console?
[06:42] <storbeck> ar0nic, login via text prompt and use startx
[06:43] <ar0nic> no screens found
[06:43] <ar0nic> i think i broke it with envy
[06:43] <ar0nic> fatal io error 104
[06:43] <ar0nic> no devices detected =|
[06:43] <storbeck> lol, good luck
[06:44] <ar0nic> try safe graphics mode
[06:44] <ar0nic> then remove envy
[06:44] <ar0nic> then hopefully ill be back in
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, you have fubar'd your system
[06:44] <ar0nic> fuck it im goin to format and reinstall
[06:44] <foibles> envy is horrid
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, sorry that happened to you
[06:44] <ar0nic> ok well put yourself in my situation for a second bro
[06:44] <ar0nic> tell me what you would do
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, ive been where you are
[06:45] <ar0nic> you want to use this as a basic web and media box
[06:45] <ar0nic> all of my movies music etc is on my windows box
[06:45] <foibles> i just moved my stuff to safe space, then reformatted/reinstalled
[06:45] <ar0nic> ive got samba taken care of and i can share files
[06:45] <ar0nic> but none of my files work with the usual codec package installs
[06:45] <ar0nic> sound will work no video
[06:45] <foibles> ar0nic, were you having problems getting video card drivers to work the old fashioned way?
[06:45] <ar0nic> this is with almost every player
[06:46] <foibles> is the box you're using relatively new?
[06:46] <foibles> using kubuntu gutsy?
[06:46] <ar0nic> no foibles in fact it identified my card in a command someone gave me
[06:46] <ar0nic> i wish i could remember it
[06:46] <ar0nic> but it read it out what it is word for word
[06:46] <ar0nic> p4
[06:46] <ar0nic> laptop
[06:46] <foibles> ar0nic, i always had an easier time getting my stuff to work with ubuntu, not kubuntu
[06:47] <foibles> and i installed the kubuntu-desktop packages after the fact
[06:47] <foibles> so you don't know the name of your video card?
[06:47] <ar0nic> no of course i do
[06:47] <ar0nic> raedon mobility 7500c
[06:47] <foibles> ar0nic, what is it
[06:47] <foibles> ati seems to have problems more often than not
[06:47] <ar0nic> but i used a command someone gave me and it out verbatim
[06:48] <foibles> ar0nic, try installing ubuntu rather than kubuntu
[06:48] <foibles> its easier to configure stuff
[06:48] <ar0nic> lspci |grep vga
[06:48] <ar0nic> heh im already midway thru a format
[06:48] <foibles> yep
[06:48] <ar0nic> under that it displayed the exact card in the pc
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> foibles: you didn't just recommend that he reformat to install ubuntu did you?
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <foibles> Daisuke_Ido, i said that once upon a time, thats what i did
[06:48] <ar0nic> so that would generally mean its got it configured properly
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all that's needed
[06:49] <ar0nic> Daisuke_Ido?
[06:49] <ere4si> ar0nic, you don't need to reinstall - boot into recovery console - type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa as the video driver - then reboot and remove envy
[06:49] <ar0nic> ive only had one issue
[06:49] <foibles> Daisuke_Ido, nay, he used envy and it fubar'd his system
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ere4si has the answer then
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> envy is evil.
[06:49] <foibles> it is
[06:50] <ar0nic> after i set vesa tho is it going to play my vids and stuff?
[06:50] <foibles> it messes up your system one way or another
[06:50] <foibles> ar0nic, yes
[06:50] <psilocyde> daisuku!
[06:50] <psilocyde> hi
[06:50] <psilocyde> lil help getting my sound card up and running?
[06:50] <psilocyde> i get low sound output
[06:50] <psilocyde> low volume that is
[06:51] <ar0nic> like i said guys i did a standard install and added all the packages you would need to play divx avi's and such but i would only get sound..
[06:51] <psilocyde> i have recompiled alsa
[06:51] <ere4si> ar0nic, after you remove envy we'll get the vid card set up right
[06:51] <psilocyde> with the latest version
[06:51] <ar0nic> k
[06:52] <ar0nic> wherre is recovery console...?
[06:52] <ar0nic> sorry =x
[06:52] <psilocyde> now when i do a cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec          i get a           cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory
[06:52] <ere4si> ar0nic, at the grub menu - the second option
[06:53] <ar0nic> so dont use the cd?
[06:53] <ere4si> no
[06:53] <ar0nic> got it
[06:53] <ar0nic> its loading
[06:54] <ere4si> k :)
[06:55] <ar0nic> auto detect?
[06:55] <ar0nic> or choose it my self?
[06:56] <ere4si> choose vesa ar0nic
[06:56] <foibles> ere4si, he has an ati video card
[06:56] <ere4si> and envy
[06:58] <ar0nic> default bus identifier?
[06:58] <ar0nic> ?
[06:58] <ar0nic> what about automatix i also installed that is that evil as well?
[06:58] <ar0nic> default bus identifer guys?
[06:58] <prince_jammys> yes, evil also
[06:58] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[06:58] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:59] <ar0nic> memory size should be blank as well i take it>?
[06:59] <ere4si> y
[07:01] <ar0nic> postinst warning overwriting possibly customized config. file back up /etc/x11.......
[07:01] <ar0nic> took me back to root
[07:02] <ar0nic> start x is loading it...
[07:02] <ar0nic> scanline heaven. lol it looks like shit
[07:02] <ar0nic> but im in
[07:03] <foibles> ar0nic, use the driver manager in kde console to load the proper video drivers for your card
[07:03] <foibles> or have you already tried that
[07:03] <ere4si> ar0nic, envy comes with a readme that tells how to uninstall it
[07:03] <ar0nic> havent....
[07:03] <ar0nic> ive booted back into  the kde
[07:08] <ar0nic> formatting.
[07:10] <ar0nic> apparently what im wanting to do is very easy and generally does it on its own and its not on my end...ive also went codec crazy so t hat couldnt help, apparently my vid card wasnt setup properly and then installed envy and nwo its fubard
[07:10] <ar0nic> after i redid the xorg.cfg the touchpad didnt work the vid was terrible
[07:11] <ar0nic> couldnt change resolution etc etc etc
[07:12] <ere4si> ar0nic, start again pal
[07:32] <sniper> де я? :)
[07:33] <ere4si> sniper, in english pls
[07:33] <imboscat> sniper: there is ubuntu channel for your language
[07:35] <sniper> i'm not english... i'm ukraine
[07:37] <ere4si> !sl
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <storbeck> !sld
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sld - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <storbeck> sniper, What language do you speak?
[07:44] <ere4si> !uk
[07:44] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[07:44] <ere4si> hehe
[07:45] <ar0nic> ere4si
[07:45] <ar0nic> you still around?
[07:45] <ere4si> k
[07:45] <ar0nic> fresh install
[07:45] <ar0nic> lets get the drivers goin
[07:46] <ere4si> ar0nic, find the driver manager
[07:46] <sniper> i speak ukrainian, russian
[07:46] <storbeck> !ru
[07:46] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:46] <ar0nic> throw me a bone bro lol
[07:47] <ere4si> I"m on my fluxbox atm
[07:47] <ar0nic> restricted drivers?
[07:47] <sniper> dyakyu!
[07:47] <storbeck> np
[07:47] <ere4si> ar0nic, what is the lappy brand and model - for a howto
[07:47] <storbeck> I think that says thanks anyway
[07:47] <ar0nic> fuck me havent had to find t hat out in ages
[07:47] <ar0nic>  lol
[07:48] <ere4si> ar0nic, watch the language buddy :)
[07:48] <storbeck> !ohmy | ar0nic
[07:48] <ubotu> ar0nic: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:48] <ar0nic> hp zt1000
[07:48] <ar0nic> sorry
[07:48] <ar0nic> sorry guys
[07:48] <ar0nic> quick on the ! you guys
[07:49] <ar0nic> ok well it says there are no propietary drivers in use under restricted drivers
[07:50] <ere4si> ar0nic, 7200 mobility right?
[07:51] <ar0nic> 7500
[07:51] <ar0nic> 7500c
[07:51] <ere4si> k brb
[07:57] <ere4si> ar0nic, this post on the forums - http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637569&postcount=9 - suggests that doing   sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosin ati for the vid driver and adding three lines to xorg.conf is all that is needed for compiz and a great display
[07:57] <storbeck> !tablet
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <ar0nic> ok what about a start for codecs and players
[07:58] <ar0nic> vlc id like to use
[07:59] <ar0nic> is visual effects why i cant watch videos?
[07:59] <ere4si> ar0nic, no - if you install vlc all codecs will be handled :)
[07:59] <storbeck> What file extension is the video?
[08:00] <ar0nic> avi divx mpeg
[08:00] <ar0nic> havent installed any other packages yet
[08:00] <storbeck> Did you install the restricted drivers?
[08:00] <ar0nic> ah yeh
[08:00] <ar0nic> forgot about those
[08:00] <ere4si> gotta go for a bit :)
[08:01] <ar0nic> what is it again apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-drivers
[08:01] <ar0nic> ?
[08:01] <storbeck> I believe so
[08:01] <storbeck> I don't use Ubuntu :]
[08:05] <ar0nic> whats the easieste way to edit the xorg.conf?
[08:05] <storbeck> With vim :]
[08:06] <storbeck> Or if you're looking to completely reconfigure it
[08:06] <storbeck> !xserver-xorg
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver-xorg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <storbeck> !xserver
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <ar0nic> i think ill get it
[08:07] <storbeck> !xconfig
[08:07] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:07] <storbeck> There we go :]
[08:07] <ar0nic> right now im seeing if a simple vlc install will play the file
[08:07] <ar0nic> i installed restricted manager
[08:07] <ar0nic> and vlc
[08:07] <storbeck> Ok
[08:09] <ar0nic> fail =|
[08:09] <ar0nic> no vid
[08:09] <storbeck> Try running it though a terminal and look for error messages.
[08:10] <ar0nic> k
[08:11] <ar0nic> heh i dunno the commands =x
[08:15] <blah> hi
[08:15] <blah> what do i do when my kde desktop stops working?
[08:15] <blah> what happened is that starting korganizer, kmail or kontact, as well as konversation is impossible, it uses ALL CPU and ALL MEMORY and never becomes usable
[08:19] <blah> i deleted korgacrc, but it doesn't help
[08:19] <blah> i do not want to delete the rest of the config data, it has too much value!
[08:19] <blah> hm, this place is dead
[08:19] <jojo_> hi there
[08:20] <jojo_> is kde 4 in hardy kubuntu has less bugs now
[08:25] <blah> jojo_: kde4 is still at least 6 months form being usable for daily work
[08:27] <noaXess> is there a tool to rotate the screen?
[08:27] <jojo_> thx blah
[08:28] <ar0nic> hey in console how would i change directorys like if i wanted to edit the xorg.conf file
[08:28] <ar0nic> im in root now.....
[08:29] <jojo_> can i used the kde4 in kubuntu hardy 64bit with less bugs or continue using it with less bus, is thqat right?
[08:30] <Elite> ar0nic: to change directories type: "cd <directory name>" without the quotes or the <>'s
[08:31] <ar0nic> is there a way to change that config in the gui?
[08:31] <ar0nic> !fixres
[08:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:35] <ere4si> ar0nic, type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <apparle> ere4si: Thanks man, you solved my problem of OSS and Kmix
[08:36] <apparle>  :)
[08:36] <yuri_> hi ppl
[08:37] <apparle> hi yuri_
[08:37] <ere4si> apparle, yah for you :)
[08:37] <yuri_> i got i little problem here, i had connect my phone sony ericsson w200 to my linux kubuntu, the first time had reconigse it , but now no, what can i do?
[08:37] <yuri_> :(
[08:39] <needhelp> hi to install kubuntu into my macbook (intel base) which version of kubuntu to use? the powerpc one?
[08:39] <yuri_> i got i little problem here, i had connect my phone sony ericsson w200 to my linux kubuntu, the first time had reconigse it , but now no, what can i do?
[08:40] <storbeck> w00t. Finally got conky configured how I want it
[08:41] <yuri_> can some one help me on that?
[08:41] <jojo_> hi, i just wanna know your feedback in kde4 install in kubuntu hardy 64 bit
[08:43] <yuri_> i think all are bussy but ty anyways :)
[08:43] <apparle> yuri_: I don't know anything about linux and mobiles
[08:43] <yuri_> i only need to know how to make it recognize =P
[08:43] <needhelp> how to check my version of kubuntu
[08:47] <RogueJediX> Anyone have a clue why my KDE style won't apply to QT apps?
[08:47] <ere4si> !version | needhelp
[08:47] <ubotu> needhelp: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[08:49] <apparle> yuri_: have you tried ubuntu forums?
[08:49] <yuri_> no
[08:49] <yuri_> im newbie
[08:49] <yuri_> got like 4 days
[08:50] <apparle> yuri_: http://ubuntuforums.org/ Go there and search if there is a similar thread.
[08:51] <yuri_> k ty!!
[08:52] <apparle> bye
[08:53] <senorpedro> hi folks
[08:53] <senorpedro> my alt-f2 quickstarter doesnt work, how can i make it work again?
[08:56] <magical> hi, as of 2 days ago my cd-rom drive tray opens every time I log into kde.. any ideas why this could be?
[09:00] <ere4si> magical, my first thought on that is a badly installed rootkit - install and run chkrootkit
[09:04] <magical> :<
[09:05] <magical> chkrootkit sees nothing
[09:05] <magical> err wait
[09:05] <magical> Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS:  6667)
[09:06] <magical> oh wait, mr google says that's nothing to worry about
[09:07] <pushax> isn't 6667 a eMule port?
[09:07] <storbeck> Isn't 6667 IRC
[09:07] <magical> yeah, it's IRC
[09:07] <magical> I don't use emule
[09:08] <magical> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/chkrootkit_portsentry/ < that page says those messages are fine though
[09:08] <magical> so I still dunno what's up with my cd tray D:
[09:08] <pushax> oh yeah IRC port
[09:08] <pushax> my mind is going.  I'm in love.
[09:09] <magical> lol
[09:09] <pushax> with kubuntu.  heheh
[09:14] <zzillezz> why is it that when i install xchat in kubuntu kde4 alpha 6, that it doesn't make a shortcut in the start panel ?
[09:20] <pushax> zzillezz: you should ask that in the kde4 channel of kubuntu
[09:20] <apparle> !kde4
[09:20] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:29] <martiini> anyone have samba working in kde4? windows network browsing is not enabled by default in kubuntu-kde4. Ive installed all samba packages but it stil doesnt work
[09:29] <pushax> !KDE4
[09:29] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:31] <martiini> does samba work in kubuntu?
[09:31] <jussi01> martiini: in 3.5.8 it does, yes
[09:31] <martiini> can you browse windows networks in kubuntu by default or does samaba need to be configured
[09:32] <martiini> howcome It wont find any windows shares in kubuntu-kde4 even with all samba packages installed
[09:33] <jussi01> martiini: please ask these questions in the correct place (#kubuntu-kde4)
[09:34] <pucko-> how can I tell kde4 to use $HOME/Desktop4 instead of Desktop?
[09:34] <pucko-> for some reason I got all my icons from my kde3 desktop on kde4 as well :/
[09:34] <jussi01> pucko-: #kubuntu-kde4
[09:34] <pucko-> oh ok.
[09:34] <jussi01> :)
[09:37] <noaXess> !backup
[09:37] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, thats because you are running both. Some apps still use kde3
[09:42] <pucko-> ActionParsnip, oh. I see.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, until all your apps use kde4 you will have both sets of libs
[09:44] <pucko-> I know, but I just don't want my icons from kde3 to show up on my kde4 desktop...
[09:44]  * jussi01 pokes ActionParsnip over to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, its a small bit of info, nothing earth shattering :D
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, head over to kde4 chan for that stuff
[09:45] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: if you were there, youd know he is too
[09:45] <jussi01> :)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> nar im only here and in ##windows
[09:50] <noaXess> is it possible with dd to see any progress statistic?.. normaly if dd is running, no stat will be given.. only when the process is ended
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, http://fosswire.com/2007/08/10/command-line-progress-bar-a-progress-bar-for-dd/
[09:54] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: aha :) okay.. thanks
[10:07] <karsten_> hi
[10:30] <cicero123> hello room
[10:33] <jpatrick> !hi | cicero123
[10:33] <ubotu> cicero123: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:36] <cicero123> hey jpatrick, thanx
[10:36] <cicero123> one month on kubuntu and counting
[10:37] <Jucato> congrats :)
[10:38] <cicero123> i tried to install kubuntu on my friends laptop, a dell with vista. i got a grub failure and now i need to use qparted to delete it and reactivate the ms partion. do i need to activate the vista partition or one of the others?
[10:38] <cicero123> thanks jucato
[10:43] <cicero123> anybody know how use qparted?
[10:44] <ForgeAus> yes
[10:44] <ForgeAus> cicero what do you need?
[10:45] <cicero123> i have a dell laptop running vista. i tried to load kubuntu on it last week but got a fatal grup error. i was told to use qparted to delete the linix partition but i cant get it to delete
[10:45] <ForgeAus> qtparted should be able to delete a partition as long as its not mounted
[10:46] <ForgeAus> do you have a live cd?
[10:46] <cicero123> yes i am running live cd on it now.
[10:46] <ForgeAus> ok what does qtparted show?
[10:46] <cicero123> i am typing thru my desktop
[10:46] <ForgeAus> (you can type thru the live cd :) it has konversation :)
[10:48] <cicero321> hello, i am now on the laptop. here is a screenshot
[10:48] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me how to restore a backup in shell
[10:49] <ForsakenSoul> hello ?
[10:51] <cicero321> hmm. i guess i cant paste a screen shot. sorry.
[10:51] <ForgeAus> hello :) I can't answer you forsakensoul because I don't know much about linux backups
[10:51] <ForgeAus> hehe cicero thats right well not in IRC anyway
[10:51] <ForgeAus> IRC is text only..
[10:51] <ForgeAus> (ascii art is about the closest you get to pictures aside from DCC's (file transfer)
[10:51] <jpatrick> imageshackus :)
[10:52] <jpatrick> .us*
[10:52] <ForgeAus> jpatrick is that like pastebin for pix?
[10:52] <ForgeAus> just out of curiousity what filetype is it Forsaken?
[10:53] <ForsakenSoul> jpatrick hey :D
[10:53] <cicero321> ForgeAus: k. i have a 80 gig hard drive with sda-1 deleted, and sda2 (the vista stuff) shrunk at 28 gigs
[10:54] <cicero321> when i try to delete the linux part it reads, " partition is mounted"
[10:57] <cicero321> if i am guessing correctly i need to unmount the penquins and delete them, and then expand the ms partition
[10:59] <cicero321> jpatrick: sorry i didnt mean to ignore you. i know enough about stuff to be dangerous but not well enough to not mess things up
[11:01] <user5>  hi
[11:01] <user5> ciao
[11:01] <user5> someone using xvidcap on kubuntu 804?
[11:01] <user5> I have some problem in configuration testing zero
[11:01] <user5> :(
[11:01] <user5> thank you
[11:02] <user5> I asked also in ubuntu+1
[11:02] <user5> without resultation
[11:04] <ForgeAus> yes cicero
[11:04] <ForgeAus> you need to unmount the partition
[11:05] <ForgeAus> (in a konsole window type: sudo umount /dev/<partition code>
[11:05] <ForgeAus> (generally partition code is something like hda1 or sda3 qtparted will tell you what its called)
[11:06] <ForgeAus> I don't know if qtparted will let you expand the partition size of an ntfs drive or not
[11:12] <cicero321> ForgeAus: sda5 ext 3?
[11:13] <ForgeAus> possibly
[11:13] <cicero321> sudo unmount /dev/sda5
[11:13] <ForgeAus> it makes sense linux would be on an ext3 type partition
[11:14] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:15] <cicero321> ForgeAus: command not found
[11:20] <ForgeAus> thats because you typed uNmount instead of umount
[11:20] <cicero321> k
[11:22] <cicero321> it zays not mounted, but it does show in qparted as active
[11:22] <cicero321> it will now let me delete it
[11:23] <cicero321> ForgeAus: delete the penguins?
[11:24] <cicero321> sda 5-8 are ext and two linux swap files
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> cicero123, if you just run mount with no options it will show what is mounted
[11:26] <ForgeAus> cicero careful which partition your removing
[11:26] <ForgeAus> (or partiions)
[11:26] <ForgeAus> any you do remove will delete ALL data on that partition
[11:26] <cicero321> 11 lines of mountedness
[11:27] <cicero321> yes the grup installer had a " catastrophic error"  and i was told that i needed to use qparted to delete it and rerun the install
[11:27] <cicero321> *grub
[11:28] <cicero321> i got a microkernel error 58000 or something and then a black screen with grup error 17
[11:28] <cicero321> *grub
[11:29] <cicero321> so i ran the live cd again and am using qparted to remove kubuntu and go back to how it was originally
[11:30] <cicero321> a dell vista laptop with media select and fat 32 swap partitions
[11:30] <cicero321> and then i want to try another live cd disk to repartion the laptop and put kubuntu on.
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> can someone help me
[11:31] <cicero321> i am so afraid of messing her laptop up. i didnt find out she hasnt done any backup to her laptop until i was already installing kubuntu
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> my net doesn't seem to work in text mdoe
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> mode
[11:33] <cicero321> ForgeAus: okay i deleted the partition
[11:33] <cicero321> i still have two linux swap files showing that it wont let me delete. are those for the live cd?
[11:33] <ForgeAus> no
[11:33] <ForgeAus> perhaps one is
[11:34] <ForgeAus> but I'd unmount all swaps if at all possible
[11:34] <ForgeAus> in fact umount -a I think is the command (you may or may not need to use sudo before the command depending on if you have privileges or not
[11:34] <ForgeAus> its best to keep just one swap partition
[11:36] <ForsakenSoul> can someone please help me .... i've curently messed up my system and i'm trying to install the desktop file again but in text mode my pc has no net
[11:37] <ForgeAus> forsaken that sonds bad
[11:37] <cicero321> ForgeAus: it says that they arent mounted, but i cant get them to delet
[11:37] <ForgeAus> you can use the live cd to reinstall but that will give you a "Fresh" kubuntu
[11:37] <ForgeAus> (ie you'll loose any settings/files you had)
[11:38] <ForgeAus> what does it say when you try to delete them?
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> ForgeAus any suggestions
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> how i can start the eth0 in the text mode
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> yeah i can reinstall but i've just installed it yesterday :D
[11:39] <cicero321> there is no option in qparted to delete.it is " greyed" out
[11:45] <de4snake> hello after messing around with my xorg.conf to solve a resolution problem, all my fonts appear bigger than they should. can ne1 please have a look at my xorg.conf?
[11:46] <pucko-> de4snake, have you specified the 100dpi fonts before the 75dpi ones?
[11:46] <de4snake> pucko-: where do i do that?
[11:47] <cicero123> ForgeAus: at this point i just want to get vista working on her computer. do ineed to set one of the ms partitions to active or  can i just reboot with an two swap files?
[11:48] <de4snake> heres my mess in xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59575/
[11:48] <sigma_1234> what syntax should i use when searching for files in konqueror?
[11:49] <Jucato> syntax?
[11:50] <sigma_1234> its some *. thing before the keyword. but i have forgotten it. if you dont use it it wont work
[11:50] <ForgeAus> cicero I'm having trouble with that you have 2 swap files
[11:51] <ForgeAus> first of all they're not files they're partitions if they're linux swap ones in qtparted
[11:51] <ForgeAus> second of all theres no need for more than one
[11:52] <icewaterman> is there a native tool to defragment fat32 on linux?
[11:52] <cicero321> when i set up the install the first time it was interrupted, and so i installed it a second time and made a mess
[11:53] <cicero321> ForgeAus: i am trying to undo the mess, and get vista running again, and hopefully retry.
[11:54] <pucko-> de4snake, i have no idea. looks ok to me.
[11:54] <de4snake> :(
[11:55] <cicero321> ForgeAus: i am not used to laptop mouse controlpads. i got frustrated and started tapping it, and in the process the install stopped in the middle.
[11:57] <cicero123> ForgeAus: so i restarted it and ended up with a mess
[11:58] <ForgeAus> cicero then why don't you use the vista setup and start clean with a single partition
[11:58] <kuser51> i dowloaded and install the compiz fusion, why can,t activate?
[11:58] <cicero123> because she didnt make a backup of her stuff
[11:58] <ForgeAus> vista has diskpart, it may not know what the partitions are (they'll show up as unknwon unless they're fat or ntfs)
[11:58] <cicero123> and she is going to be prety mad
[11:58] <kuser51> what i can do to run my compiz
[11:58] <ForgeAus> juyst remove all unknown partitions
[11:58] <cicero123> ic
[11:59] <kuser51> the csm is already...but i can't enabled or activate the compiz fusion
[11:59] <cicero123> k
[11:59] <kuser51> is any configuration start the new one....
[11:59] <cicero123> i am rebooting the laptop
[11:59] <ForgeAus> I still don't know how your going to grow and/or shrink the one you want vista on
[11:59] <cicero123> :(
[12:00] <ForgeAus> ask in #windows they might know
[12:00] <ForgeAus> (or you could download hirens boot cd theres lots of partitioning tools on that)
[12:00] <cicero123> hirens?
[12:00] <kuser51> please help me to resolve my problem
[12:00] <jussi01> kuser51: which gfx card?
[12:00] <kuser51> nvidia
[12:01] <jussi01> kuser51: have you followed the tutorial?
[12:01] <ForgeAus> yes do a search for it, (its kind of a win98 LiveCD with lotsa extra partitioning, diagnostics and so on tools)
[12:01] <jussi01> !compiz | kuser51
[12:01] <kuser51> of course not
[12:01] <ubotu> kuser51: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:01] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k. i will do that
[12:01] <kuser51> if video card can the effect
[12:02] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k. how do i get to the visa diskpart?
[12:02] <ForgeAus> its built into vista setup (if its anything like XP's)
[12:02] <kuser51> i mean the vdeo card configuration
[12:02] <jussi01> kuser51: go follow the tutorial, if you have any probs, ask here then
[12:03] <cicero123> ForgeAus:thank you for your help. i really appreciate it very much
[12:13] <cicero123> ForgeAus: i cant find it. i only goes into the dell bios, or into grub error 17
[12:15] <cicero123> ForgeAus: wow. it jest went inot a psa+ pre-boot system analysis...
[12:15] <ForgeAus> cicero? does vista have a recovery console option?
[12:15] <ForgeAus> (to boot into a recovery console?)
[12:16] <ForgeAus> if so run the command fixboot with it
[12:16] <ForgeAus> this is more in the realm of #windows than #Kubuntu
[12:17] <ForgeAus> I'm not all that vista-savvy really
[12:17] <cicero123> ForgeAus: it wont boot into anything but the hd (grub), cd player, nic card, or the system anylizer
[12:17] <ForgeAus> what did it used to do?
[12:17] <cicero123> ForgeAus: load into vista
[12:17] <ForgeAus> well boot into the CD drive with a Vista CD
[12:18] <ForgeAus> and see what options it gives you, I'd be looking for a recovery console and to use the command fixboot if at all possible
[12:18] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k
[12:18] <cicero123> i have to wait until the duo core processor gets done testing itself. :(
[12:18] <ForgeAus> ok
[12:19] <cicero123> reminds me of dual carbs on my dads old galaxy
[12:23] <martiini> an option to cascade all minimized windows MUST be added to kde4 panel
[12:30] <cicero123> ForgeAus: the boot disk wants to reinstall vista
[12:31]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[12:31] <ForgeAus> cicero ask in #windows
[12:31] <cicero123> k. thank you again for all your help.
[12:32] <cicero123> it is  past my bedtime. goodnight all.
[12:32] <cicero123> i will go to windows when i wake up.
[12:47] <pjoter> jiiiha
[12:47] <pjoter> hello
[12:47] <jussi01> hi
[12:48] <pjoter> running kubuntu finally
[12:48] <jussi01> :)
[12:48] <dthacker> yay!
[12:48] <pjoter> hey how to change tab in here?
[12:48] <pjoter> ctrl tab doesn't work. ctrl page up/down neither
[12:48] <dthacker> !keymaps
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymaps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <pjoter> cool tho
[12:48] <pjoter> !keymaps
[12:48] <pjoter> hold on
[12:48] <pjoter> i have to eat
[12:48] <jussi01> pjoter: alt + arrow iirc
[12:48] <pjoter> aah ok
[12:49] <pjoter> gr3eat thx!
[12:49] <pjoter> bbl
[12:49] <jussi01> !enter | pjoter
[12:49] <ubotu> pjoter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:52] <pushax> new skype release !
[12:58] <tracker> zdr
[12:58] <tracker> :)
[12:58] <tracker> kvo staa
[12:58] <jussi01> tracker: ??
[12:59] <tracker> exoooooooooo
[12:59] <tracker> from ?
[12:59] <jussi01> tracker: can we help you?
[13:01] <Combatjuan> So I have my apt-get upgrade process running in konsole but I want to restart my X server and there is still lots more time left on the upgrade.  Is there a way in *nix to change the location of a process in the tree so that it's no longer owned by konsole but say, by init?  Does what I asked even make sense?
[13:03] <roxx> hallo
[13:03] <jussi01> Combatjuan: understand what you mean, but i dont think so...
[13:03] <jussi01> hi roxx
[13:04] <Combatjuan> jussi01: Ok.  Thanks.
[13:04] <pjoter> hello again
[13:04] <roxx> why my console didnt find the beryl package?
[13:04] <pjoter> how to view the command list in here as /commands didn't work?
[13:05] <jpatrick> !beryl | roxx
[13:05] <ubotu> roxx: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:05] <jpatrick> pjoter: /help ?
[13:05] <pjoter> neither
[13:05] <jussi01> pjoter: it puts it in a different tab methinks
[13:05] <pjoter> oh hey you're right. thx!
[13:06] <jussi01> :)
[13:06] <roxx> so whats the new command?
[13:06] <roxx> thx
[13:06] <jussi01> pjoter: which client are you using?
[13:06] <jussi01> !compiz | roxx
[13:06] <ubotu> roxx: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:06] <pjoter> i just booted the kubuntu live cd. konverstation it says
[13:06] <jussi01> pjoter: yeah, the tabs are clickable in that also
[13:06] <roxx> ty!
[13:06] <jussi01> :)
[13:07] <pjoter> !enter | pjoter
[13:07] <pjoter> ^^
[13:07] <jussi01> pjoter: now you got a pm from the bot!
[13:07] <pjoter> yea i did hehe
[13:07] <jussi01> :)
[13:07] <pjoter> hey cool
[13:08] <pjoter> i could imagine totally switching to linux
[13:08] <pjoter> i have to think about the programs i need and whether there are suitable alternatives. but seems so right now
[13:08] <pjoter> as irc works ^^
[13:09] <pjoter> hey have you experiences with nmap, tcpdump on wireless network devices jussi01?
[13:09] <jussi01> pjoter: used, but not overly experienced, why?
[13:09] <pjoter> in windows my network device just crashes and i have to reboot. because of winpcap i guess. perhaps not so in linux.
[13:10] <jussi01> pjoter: which wireless card?
[13:10] <pjoter> prism something
[13:10] <pjoter> hold on
[13:10] <jussi01> pjoter: open konsole (under system) and type: lspci
[13:10] <pjoter> cool i wanted to ask what to type in the console right now ^^
[13:11] <jussi01> :)
[13:11] <pjoter> hey is there a "run" command?
[13:11] <jussi01> pjoter: what do you mean?
[13:11] <pjoter> like i press ctrl+r and a window appears to enter a command
[13:11] <pjoter> to open a console etc
[13:11] <jussi01> alt + f2
[13:11] <pjoter> great!
[13:11] <pjoter> k
[13:12] <pjoter> bash then?
[13:12] <pjoter> nothing appears
[13:12] <jussi01> also do alt +f2 then run katapault
[13:12] <jussi01> then you have the alt + space functionality
[13:12] <jussi01> !katapault
[13:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about katapault - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:12] <jussi01> hrm
[13:12] <jussi01> got to run
[13:12] <pjoter> great
[13:13] <jussi01> see you
[13:13] <pjoter> i just ran katapult
[13:13] <pjoter> ah ok cya
[13:13] <pjoter> thx
[13:14] <pjoter> hey how to open a console via alt+f2 ?
[13:14] <pjoter> i tried "bash" but didn't work
[13:15] <pucko-> pjoter, either xterm or konsole
[13:16] <pjoter> ah ok
[13:16] <pjoter> hey great in channel search functionality in here!
[13:16] <ctw> Hi! I'm getting an error message when I try to run apt-get update or apt-get (dist-)upgrade: It says Reading package lists ... Error! E: Problem parsing dependency Suggests, E: Error occured while processng debconf (NewVersion1), E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status, E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:16] <ctw>  Any idea what's wrong and how I can fix it?
[13:17] <pucko-> ctw, I would guess some other process has a lock on it...
[13:17] <jpatrick> ctw: apt-get install -f?
[13:18] <jpatrick> ctw: either that or...
[13:18] <jpatrick> !aptfix | ctw
[13:18] <ubotu> ctw: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:20] <ctw> jpatrick: cool, thanks ... will try this out right now
[13:22] <ctw> jpatrick: I get a dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 472 package debconf: field name `' must be followed by a colon
[13:22] <ctw> jpatrick: do I have to edid this file?
[13:23] <jpatrick> ctw: hmm, never seen that error before
[13:23] <pjoter> hey is installing new software on kubuntu intended to be done via the adept manager only ??
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: nop
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: you have the freedom to choose how to do it
[13:24] <pjoter> jpatrick: i want to install my mom kubuntu, is there anything she possibly needs?
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: most of the default apps ought to do it
[13:24] <pjoter> i mean in the packet manager
[13:25] <pjoter> ok so i won't have to bother about in-deep installing methods from scratch
[13:25] <pjoter> just download the appropriate packages
[13:25] <jpatrick> Don't think so.
[13:25] <pjoter> great
[13:25] <jpatrick> if you need anything, just ask here :)
[13:25] <pjoter> yea cool!
[13:26] <pjoter> what if the kubuntu install cd just hangs after the small X appeared ??
[13:26] <jpatrick> try booting into "Safe graphics mode"
[13:26] <pjoter> but after installation the real gfx mode will work?
[13:26] <jpatrick> yeah
[13:26] <pjoter> ok cool
[13:27] <pjoter> i will be back
[13:27] <jpatrick> the live cd is probably asking than more memory than availible
[13:27] <pjoter> ah ok
[13:27] <pjoter> how to show on which server i am right now from konversation ?
[13:28] <jpatrick> pjoter: try: /server
[13:28] <pjoter> ok
[13:29]  * jpatrick => lunch time
[13:29] <pjoter> if have the information now, it reconnected tho
[13:29] <pjoter> k cya
[13:31] <de4dsnake> hey i got a problem with the desktop applet for kde, "pager". It shows 8 desktops instead of 4 after reboot. I can fix  it by setting to 8 and then back to 4. but that lasts only until  next reboot.
[13:32] <de4dsnake> neone knows whats causing this?
[13:32] <pushax> de4dsnake: check you have the right permissions in your home dir
[13:33] <de4dsnake> pushax: ive got: drwxr-xr-x
[13:34] <de4dsnake> if thats what u meant
[13:35] <pushax> de4dsnake: #chown username:username ~/* -R
[13:36] <pushax> de4dsnake: replacing username with your user name... obviously...
[13:37] <de4dsnake> pushax: do i need to register a username?
[13:37] <pushax> de4dsnake: you may need sudo at the front of that
[13:37] <de4dsnake> oh
[13:37] <de4dsnake> nvm
[13:37] <pushax> de4dsnake: the username is your account name you login with to the session
[13:39] <de4dsnake> i get "invalid user"
[13:40] <de4dsnake> ah
[13:40] <de4dsnake> it works now
[13:40] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone here use kontact?  trying to send an sms message thru it, but not sure how to configure it.  maybe anyone have a useful how to website?
[13:40] <pushax> de4dsnake: type ...   sudo chown username:username ~/* -R    REPLACING USERNAME with your login account name for both username fields in that string
[13:41] <pushax> de4dsnake: np
[13:41] <de4dsnake> pushax: ok done, what now?
[13:41] <pjoter> hey how reliable is wine today - i often heard of it, will it run nearly all win-apps?
[13:41] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: i have had 0 luck with it, good luck.  lol
[13:41] <pjoter> oh
[13:41] <pushax> de4dsnake:  that should make your account directory your own, in case it lost privilege
[13:41] <pjoter> ok
[13:42] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: i have tried, office 2k3, warcraft3 adobe 8, and a few smaller apps, NOTHING worked.  was a pain... lol
[13:42] <pjoter> oh darn it
[13:42] <genii> pjoter: List of what works/sort of works/won't work http://appdb.winehq.org/
[13:43] <pushax> de4dsnake: now set up the number of desktops you want.   use #kcontrol ...  then setup the amount for root level using #kdesu kcontrol   ...  the '#' means type at bash prompt
[13:43] <pjoter> ah ok thx
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: well thats not entirely fair, they "work" i guess you could say.  office, tried follwoing what to do on the website just mentioned, didnt work for me.  same with arcraft3, ran for maybe 10seconds and crashed.  abobe.... hell.  o and rosetta stone, nope.  yah that websites "says" they work, keep that in mind
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> i used it to try all the apps i worked with, got all hyped up thinking they would work, and not one did
[13:44] <pjoter> damn
[13:44] <pjoter> ok
[13:44] <pjoter> that's a pity
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> i know
[13:45] <pjoter> is there an alternative?
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> i was SOOOOOOOOOO happy when i finally thought a solution had came
[13:45] <pjoter> argh
[13:45] <de4dsnake> pushax: the problem is not that it doesnt save the setting properly. after reboot, the number of desktops in the settings is correct. but despite that it shows the incorrect number of icons
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> but much to my dismay.... nothing worked
[13:45] <jpatrick> !wine > pjoter
[13:45] <pjoter> what's the difficulty in building wine?
[13:45] <mika__> hi there
[13:45] <jpatrick> !appdb > pjoter
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> its easy man
[13:45] <jpatrick> !hi | mika__
[13:45] <ubotu> mika__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> are you on kubuntu or ubuntu
[13:45] <pjoter> kubuntu
[13:45] <de4dsnake> pushax: btw im extecting 4 desktop icons for the 4 viewports of compiz
[13:46] <mika__> I cant get mic to work
[13:46] <mika__>  ... skype
[13:46] <zgmf-x20a> damn i havent been on kubuntu for maybe 5 months, but it should be available via adept
[13:46] <mika__> it was working yesterday
[13:46] <pjoter> i just tried the live cd heh
[13:46] <pushax> de4dsnake: have you tried to st it at 1 to see if the lowest value clears the rpoblems?  then try the highest value to see if you can force it to trip to base value
[13:46] <jpatrick> pjoter: see the private messages from ubotu
[13:46] <zgmf-x20a> make sure the repos are checked off though
[13:46] <pjoter> hey thx jpatrick yea
[13:47] <pushax> de4dsnake: ...have you tried to set... I meant
[13:47] <mika__> jpatrick .. hi, any ideas for making mic work again
[13:47] <pjoter> but they fib a little on appdb as zgmf-x20a told me
[13:47] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: you may have better luck, i think alot of the game issues where attributed to hardware
[13:47] <de4dsnake> pushax: 1 desktop in setting should make it to 4 icons. 2 desktop 8 icons as each desktop has got 4 viewports (4 sides of compiz cube)
[13:47] <jpatrick> mika__: check the settings in kmix
[13:48] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: however software should have worked, but ...... doesnt.... lol.  seems like one of those hit or miss linux type mysteries.... hahaha
[13:48] <pjoter> darn it to hell
[13:48] <zgmf-x20a> hahahahahaha
[13:48] <pjoter> lol
[13:49] <de4dsnake> pushax: so the setting should b at 1 desktop, but instead after reboot i get 8. Probably a bug or malconfiguration. When i set it to to and then back to one, it fixes itself.
[13:49] <mika__> jpatrick .. have done that .. looks ok to me .. although when comparing to kmix snapshot on skype page there is no button (i guess mute) on mic slider
[13:49] <pjoter> you mean it's technically not such a big thing building such an app-layer?
[13:49] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: well dont get your hopes up yet man, havent tried it in over a month due to my near brain hemoraging the first time trying it.... lol.  so maybe the newer updates may solve problems for apps your working with
[13:49] <pjoter> no i won't
[13:49] <pjoter> i like kubuntu already
[13:49] <jpatrick> mika__: make sure it's set to record
[13:49] <mika__> jpatrick ... what indicates that ?
[13:50] <jpatrick> mika__: the red button in "Input" in kmix
[13:50] <pushax> de4dsnake: I don't have compiz installed so I can't search for the config file.  mayeb you can search for contents that will hold the real value
[13:50] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: naw its simple as anything to install.  personally i gave up after trying all the things on appdb said to do, and many many reinstalls and reconfigures and i got squat, so i rely on the classic dual boot method
[13:50] <zgmf-x20a> unfortunately....
[13:51] <pjoter> mh ok
[13:51] <mika__> jpatrick ... I have 3 capture bars under input tab
[13:51] <zgmf-x20a> kinda hate how i have to rely on windoze for my gaming.... and things to just work when i need them too, but hey, cant change that
[13:51] <pjoter> wine emulates the whole windows API i guess? is this even possible ?
[13:51] <pushax> de4dsnake: is the most you can have 8? Maybe like you say, a bug is causing a difference of 1
[13:51] <pjoter> or always doomed to be an bricolage thing
[13:52] <de4dsnake> pushax: well if i set it to 3 ill have 8 instead of 12
[13:52] <pushax> hehhe
[13:52] <pushax> de4dsnake: wish ya luck.  try googling the prob?
[13:53] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: lol, well it is still in developement, it has ALOT of promise, and does emulate how windows works pretty well, but i dunno, personally my experience was bad, but some others it works, thus was my conclusion of hardware based discrepencies
[13:53] <de4dsnake> but as is said, if i go from 2 or 3 or more back to one it gets fixed
[13:53] <pjoter> ok i will check it out
[13:53] <pjoter> thx
[13:53] <pjoter> are there anti virus scanners for linux too?
[13:53] <pushax> de4dsnake: restart now that you pass that command before.  mayeb you did have a ownership issue on your files
[13:54] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: no problem man.  i say give it a run just so you can experience it see if it works, and if so, gold, if not, wait it out for the development to get on the issues
[13:54] <pjoter> yea
[13:54] <de4dsnake> pushax:  ok ill try, brb
[13:54] <pushax> de4dsnake: you could also try to purge the package in question and reinstall it, therefore new start values.
[13:54] <zgmf-x20a> anyways, so anyone a kontact user here?
[13:55] <LadyNikon> i used to be zgmf-x20a
[13:55] <LadyNikon> then i switched to using google calendar
[13:55] <pushax> de4dsnake: in Adept you can purge the installs.
[13:55] <LadyNikon> zgmf-x20a: whats the issue?
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> LadyNikon: cool, do you remeber how to get sms messaging up and running on it?
[13:55] <LadyNikon> ah.. never used that feature sorry.
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> i keep getting thise error:  There is no application set which could be executed. Please go to the settings dialog and configure one.
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> awwwwwwww
[13:56] <zgmf-x20a> ok ok, thanks though.  anyone else?
[13:56] <zgmf-x20a> i have been surfing the settings, but cant find what im supposed to configure!
[13:57] <jpatrick> !virus | pushax
[13:57] <ubotu> pushax: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[13:57] <jpatrick> pjoter: ^^ sorry
[13:57] <pjoter> hehe
[13:57] <pjoter> hey basically linux is the concrete, nail and screw metal alloy and raw glass etc from which the doors and windows and walls are build (KDE/GNOME) and the application programmer uses those already assembled things to build houses and huts right??
[13:57] <Death_Syn> Hi!
[13:58] <genii> I think the !virus factoid needs updating, there are over 800 viruses that are for linux
[13:58] <Death_Syn> Since I installed 4.0.2, my 3.5.9 desktops seem to have the / directory in them, I see all the directories under / on the desktop.  Googling hasn't been successful in finding a fix for this so far.  Anyone know how I can fix?
[13:58] <Death_Syn> running gutsy
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: linux is the kernal, GNU is everything that makes it work
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> i think
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[13:58] <pjoter> but that's too technical to imagine for me
[13:59] <de4dsnake> pushax: it didnt fix it
[13:59] <mika__> jpatrick .. remember were there some trick you renamed some alsa conf file and restarted alsa
[13:59] <jpatrick> !sound
[13:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:59] <de4dsnake> pushax: i try asking in compiz channel
[14:00] <pjoter> !virus | pjoter
[14:00] <pushax> de4dsnake: ok.  maybe you can purge the package in question.  other words use adept to 'purge' then delete the directory withthe settings in your home dir.  then reinstall.  therefore getting a clean install of that item
[14:00] <Signil> has any1 tried hotwire?
[14:00] <pushax> de4dsnake:  do that as last resort though.  Maybe there is a simple answer
[14:01] <mika__> my sound is working .. only microphone doesnt
[14:01] <pjoter> hey what is ubotu programmed in?
[14:01] <pushax> new skype version out today!
[14:02] <pushax> pjoter: assemly and 'c'
[14:02] <pjoter> assembly ?? ^^
[14:02] <pushax> pjoter: assembly and 'c'
[14:02] <pjoter> really
[14:02] <pjoter> why
[14:02] <pjoter> kinda hardcore
[14:02] <pjoter> !enter | pjoter
[14:03] <pushax> pjoter: that's the kernel, but it seems python, java, is popular.
[14:03] <Signil> has any1 tried hotwire?
[14:03] <pjoter> hey hold on i meant the bot! not ubuntu!
[14:03] <jpatrick> !msgthebot | pjoter
[14:03] <ubotu> pjoter: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:03] <pjoter> the uboto bot
[14:03] <pjoter> hehe
[14:04] <pushax> pjoter: the kernel up until recently was pure assembly, but they change it to C and small amount of asm.
[14:04] <jose> anyone speak spanish?
[14:04] <pjoter> mh kinda hardcore! but you're talking bout the linux kernel right? not the bot's kernel or something. i meant the ubotu-bot
[14:05] <pjoter> claro que si
[14:05] <mika__> ok got it working ... thanks for your help :)
[14:05] <pjoter> jose que passa
[14:05] <jpatrick> !es | jose
[14:05] <ubotu> jose: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:06] <jose> que bueno man,, soy un novato en kubuntu y me lo he intalado para probarlo,
[14:06] <pushax> pjoter: yeah my mistake.
[14:06] <jose> y no puedo ver paginas web
[14:06] <pjoter> np!
[14:06] <jose> mel konkeror no me funciona
[14:06] <pjoter> tienes que configurar tu network machina jose pero no se como se fa
[14:06] <jpatrick> jose: /join #kubuntu-es
[14:06] <pushax> pjoter: doesn't irc have a macro language?  maybe it's in that.
[14:06] <pjoter> yea
[14:07] <pjoter> mi espanol no es muy bien jose, visita kubuntu-es
[14:08] <pjoter> pushax perhaps! i would be interested
[14:08] <pjoter> is it a client side bot jpatrick or is it a whole little irc client itself?
[14:08] <Death_Syn> guh
[14:09] <Death_Syn> Since I installed kde 4.0.2 ppa packages on gutsy, my 3.5.9 desktops seem to have the / directory in them, I see all the directories under / on the desktop.  Googling hasn't been successful in finding a fix for this so far.  Anyone know how I can fix?
[14:09] <Death_Syn> a dude in #kde told me its a kubuntu problem, before I even mentioned kubuntu
[14:09] <Death_Syn> and sent me here :/
[14:10] <jpatrick> pjoter: it's a supybot
[14:10] <pjoter> aah i heard of those!
[14:11] <pjoter> i was in a bot channel once and remember the name
[14:11] <jpatrick> pjoter: http://supybot.com/
[14:11] <zgmf-x20a> ARGH nothng in the help files, or on the site.... lol.  its a mgical function apparently....  so anyone using kontact, seriously, there has to be someone who knows how to configure this function
[14:11] <pjoter> ok phyton then
[14:11] <pjoter> yea thx
[14:11] <Death_Syn> zgmf-x20a: which function?
[14:11] <jpatrick> pjoter: but let's take the offtopic discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:12] <pjoter> heh ok
[14:12] <zgmf-x20a> beside a contact when you input a number, it has SMS in brackets to send a message, but when looking into configure to configure it, i cant find options for it
[14:12] <pushax> What's the best WYSIWYG HTML editor on linux?
[14:12] <Death_Syn> zgmf-x20a: ooh
[14:12] <Death_Syn> let me try that
[14:13] <zgmf-x20a> it will ouptu this message :There is no application set which could be executed. Please go to the settings dialog and configure one.
[14:13] <Death_Syn> quanta maybe
[14:13] <pjoter> would you propose using an wysiwyg editor even if you know how to do it by hand pushax ?
[14:13] <pushax> pjoter: how did I know someone was going to say that.... or notepad
[14:13] <pjoter> hey hehe no i was really wondering
[14:14] <pjoter> i thought of all those big and expensive enterprise products out there like dreamweaver and there must be some point
[14:14] <pushax> pjoter: tools. man, tools.   If I do wood work I 'm not going to use a knife to plane... hhehhe..
[14:14] <pjoter> but then i wondered what they actually do
[14:14] <Death_Syn> zgmf-x20a: Settings / Configure Kontact / Contacts / General/ General/ Script-Hooks SMS Test:
[14:14] <Death_Syn> er Text
[14:14] <Death_Syn> now
[14:14] <Death_Syn> as to what program to put in there, I don't know
[14:14] <Death_Syn> but that's where to put it
[14:14] <pjoter> mh interesting ok. but dreamweaver e.g. is it already reliable in terms of proper code etc? it wasn't some time ago as i remember
[14:15] <pushax> pjoter: the worlds getting too complicated.  so it's easier to use an editor.  Least then you can see fast what's going on, even though you can type the whole lot in yourself.
[14:15] <zgmf-x20a> Death_Syn: ahhhhh yes yes, i was looking at that but i thought it was possibley for an automated script, like an intro to every sms text message sent
[14:16] <zgmf-x20a> so that is actually where to put the script, dang thats alitle troublesome
[14:16] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[14:16] <pjoter> mh the world really gets completed and complicated... i also thought that once
[14:16] <Death_Syn> zgmf-x20a: well, for Fax, mine at least includes a push to kdeprintfax, that looks like it would actually submit a fax
[14:16] <zgmf-x20a> Death_Syn: yes i have the same configuration up on mine
[14:16] <pjoter> hey that was interesting to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity ! last off topic post though ;)
[14:16] <pushax> cheers all
[14:17] <Death_Syn> reminds me, need to start pushing vcards from my winphone to my kontact
[14:17] <Death_Syn> i sorely miss my treo
[14:17] <Death_Syn> wish I could get my / directory off my desktop
[14:18] <Death_Syn> seems to be on every user's desktop on the system, too
[14:18] <Death_Syn> I'm afraid to install kde 4.0.2 on any more of my boxes until I can get rid of this
[14:18] <Death_Syn> because I still work in 3.5.x primarily :/
[14:20] <LetsGo67> Is there a way that, when I press a button on a joystick, it can emulate a keypress?
[14:26] <bex> hello
[14:26] <psilocyde> hi folks
[14:26] <psilocyde> i need help with my audio
[14:26] <psilocyde> low to no audio
[14:27] <psilocyde> i recompiled my alsa drivers
[14:28] <psilocyde> tha seemed to break things further as now i have no volume where as before i had just low volume
[14:36] <genii> !info jslaunch
[14:36] <ubotu> Package jslaunch does not exist in gutsy
[14:36] <genii> Hmm
[14:37] <fireb0x> !wifi
[14:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:37] <fireb0x> woops
[14:45] <psilocyde> hi folks, I need help with my audio.I did a fresh install of kubuntu gutsy and  was treated to verry low audio volume. I asked around and did some googling and i discovered it was a known bug with my on-board intel based sound hardware. I found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and stumbled through recompiling my alsa drivers and rebooted. still no sopund. Thats as far as my limited linux knowhowedness h
[14:45] <psilocyde> as gotten me.
[14:54] <zgmf-x20a> psilocyde: can you switch to alsa?
[14:55] <zgmf-x20a> psilocyde: you there man?
[14:55] <zgmf-x20a> omg i love dj finny.... if you are drum and bass fan get on digitally imported NOW. dope set!
[14:56] <zgmf-x20a> specifically this song kcks ass
[14:56] <genii> zgmf-x20a: He just recompiled alsa to support his HDA audio as per the link.
[14:56] <genii> psilocyde: Did you open kmix to make sure things were not muted, like the PCM input?
[14:57] <zgmf-x20a> genii: right right i saw that, but has he disabled the ability to go into the alsa options?  i had the same problem, went into alsa found the meter was set to lower 20% by default, uped it and boom, problem solved
[14:57] <zgmf-x20a> on both alsa and hda intel
[14:58] <zgmf-x20a> psilocyde: o right, kubuntu.  lol im on ubuntu at the moment.  yes, kmix, try that just like genii said
[15:01] <zgmf-x20a> psilocyde: by the by, toss on your favorite tune on amarok, and then tweak those settings, its the way things should be done.  ^_^
[15:01] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[15:35] <frinuxfr> salut
[15:36] <frinuxfr> je cherche à sauvegarder mes mails que je lis via Kontact (boite IMAP). Vous voyez comment faire ça ?
[15:36] <frinuxfr> sorry that's an english speaking channel
[15:37] <jpatrick> !fr | frinuxfr
[15:37] <ubotu> frinuxfr: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:37] <jpatrick> ...
[15:38] <frinuxfr> I'm trying to backup all my emails, that I read with Kontact, and that's an IMAP box. How could I do ?
[15:38] <mifauna_> hello
[15:39] <jerbear> is there a way to have the keyring not prompt me for my password everytime networkmanager connects?
[15:40] <chinamann> hi @ all
[15:41] <chinamann> anyone here to explain how to use KDE 4.0.2?
[15:42] <jussi01> chinamann: ask in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[15:42] <Jucato> !kde4 | chinamann
[15:42] <ubotu> chinamann: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:44] <fuhreal> Anyone know where the KDE theme manager can be found? I found all the styles under "System settings" but can't find anything saying "themes"
[15:44] <jpatrick> fuhreal: kde-look.org
[15:45] <fuhreal> jpatrick: Yes i found something there.... and its a theme ... so i right clicked the theme in dolpphin and installed it... now i can't find it
[15:45] <jerbear> is there a way to have the keyring not prompt me for my password everytime networkmanager connects? or maybe to have it use kwallet instead?
[15:46] <jpatrick> fuhreal: what tpye of theme is it?
[15:48] <fuhreal> jpatrick: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Thinking+about+blue?content=26392
[15:48] <Jucato> fuhreal: I'd recommend staying away from "KDE Theme Manager" mostly because it sucks...
[15:48] <emilsedgh> Jucato: it should be removed
[15:48] <fuhreal>  :|
[15:49] <Jucato> hm.. let me check what kind of theme this is
[15:49] <Jucato> emilsedgh: it's good for 2 things though
[15:49] <fuhreal> some of those beryl themes are nice ... but i take it i'd have to install beryl
[15:49] <Jucato> beryl or compiz-fusion. yet
[15:49] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i never found a usage for it
[15:49] <Jucato> emilsedgh: easy saving and restoring of already existing/installed themes
[15:49] <jerbear> why does vpn connections through network-manager not use kwallet?
[15:50] <emilsedgh> maybe
[15:50] <Jucato> so that you can save your favorite settings and then restore it after experimenting
[15:50] <Jucato> fuhreal: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Appearance & Themes -> THeme Manager
[15:50] <Jucato> !changethemes
[15:50] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[15:51] <Jucato> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#head-867d52dcd5e6d10e41e6e4fbcdb9b679303690c1 for what I mean about the KDE Theme (Manager)
[15:51] <fuhreal> sweet a control center
[15:51] <Jucato> emilsedgh: that's practically why it was removed from System Settings (KDE 3)
[15:52] <Jucato> hm... that will probably be a good project in the future
[15:52]  * Jucato thinks, rubbing chin
[15:52]  * jpatrick thinks he senses something coming up
[15:52] <emilsedgh> Jucato: lets hope that it will be improved, in KDE 4.5 probably :D
[15:53] <jerbear> why does vpn connections through network-manager not use kwallet?
[15:54] <jussi01> !repeat | jerbear
[15:54] <ubotu> jerbear: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:54] <Jucato> emilsedgh: well, a lot has to happen first on many different fronts before KDE's theme management can be as easy as GNOME's but still as powerful... (and one of them actually involves kde-look.org cleaning up its mislabelled themes)
[15:54] <emilsedgh> Jucato: well, i like the current things...i have exactly no problem with current
[15:54] <jerbear> does anyone use vpn connections?
[15:55] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you don't. you know what you're doing. but you probably have never or very rarely encountered user support questions about installing this or that theme from kde-look, only to find out that it's not in the right category, so that the instructions that would normally work don't
[15:56] <emilsedgh> Jucato: kde-look is just good for preview's
[15:56] <emilsedgh> Jucato: the best way is to widget styles from package manager and other things using a HotNewStuff
[15:56] <emilsedgh> to install
[15:56] <Jucato> um.. emilsedgh... you can't install widget styles through khotnewstuff... and not all styles are always available fro package managers
[15:57] <emilsedgh> Jucato: then i would change my distro ;)
[15:58] <emilsedgh> Jucato: but reall,y, KDE4 hasnt many 'look' things.just Oxygen widget style and windeco
[15:58] <emilsedgh> and icons
[15:58] <emilsedgh> others are too ugly
[15:59] <Jucato> emilsedgh: if that's your criteria. sure... you're not my intended audience
[15:59] <Jucato> :)
[15:59] <Jucato> you're a power user. you don't need a theme manager or any semblance of order :P
[15:59] <emilsedgh> Jucato: what i really want from a distro is packages, and good hardware support
[16:00] <Jucato> distro's job. not upstream. I'm more interested in that :P
[16:01] <emilsedgh> hehe
[16:01] <emilsedgh> kubuntu is good because modifications are given back to kde
[16:01] <Jucato> um... ok...
[16:01] <Jucato> afk for a while
[16:01] <emilsedgh> things are kcm modules, not stupid control panels
[16:01] <emilsedgh> have fun Jucato
[16:11] <psilocyde> need help with my intel I have no sound, and I can't seem to get alsa mixer to start up after recompile of the intel HD audio drivers and such. I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, 7.10. I ran some commands as suggested here and elsewhere and the results are in the following pastbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59591/
[16:14] <genii> psilocyde: Did you open kmix to make sure things were not muted, like the PCM input?
[16:15] <psilocyde> think so will try again
[16:15] <psilocyde> right, kmix shows no available mixer
[16:15] <psilocyde> mixer cannot be found
[16:18] <genii> psilocyde: Does the command: aplay -l                 show your card?
[16:18] <psilocyde> genni: No.
[16:18] <warren_> hi
[16:19] <warren_> someone knows if mandvd is still active?
[16:19] <psilocyde> did you look at the pastebin?
[16:20] <jerbear> i REALLY need some help with this one... vpn connections in network manager are not using kwallet or gnome keyring, but they are using some keyring.. what is is using?
[16:22] <Smos> I have a problem reading windows fat32 drive with kubuntu live. Partition seems active in qtparted, but when I open the drive I see no files.
[16:22] <genii> psilocyde: Please pastebin results of: lsmod
[16:23] <genii> psilocyde: Did you issue: depmod -a              after you did the alsa compiling?
[16:23] <niko_> hi
[16:23] <niko_> i can't type tha "at" symbol....
[16:23] <psilocyde> genni:i dont think so. im not certain
[16:26] <psilocyde> genni: pastebin of lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59592/
[16:26] <dueperdue> hi
[16:26] <genii> psilocyde: Reading
[16:29] <genii> psilocyde: The sound driver is not loaded. Try: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[16:29] <dueperdue> you help me? I need to run a scipt in perl from my desktop
[16:29] <dueperdue> how I do that?
[16:29] <dueperdue> the script's name is dxd.pl
[16:29] <psilocyde> will do
[16:30] <psilocyde> genni: FATAL: Module snd_hda_inte not found.
[16:31] <frank_> intel
[16:31] <niko_> hi all
[16:31] <niko_> someone can help me with atheros wifi chipset
[16:31] <niko_> ?
[16:31] <genii> psilocyde: as frank_ points out I think you missed the "l" at the end of intel
[16:32] <psilocyde> oh crud ok will try again
[16:33] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[16:33] <psilocyde> [sudo] password for psilocyde:
[16:33] <psilocyde> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[16:33] <jpatrick> !paste | psilocyde
[16:33] <ubotu> psilocyde: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:33] <psilocyde> oops sorry
[16:34] <safak> hoe can a play mp4 with  kaffeine?
[16:34] <psilocyde> that was too many characters?
[16:34] <genii> psilocyde: Too many lines :)
[16:34] <frank_> !restricted | safak
[16:34] <ubotu> safak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:35] <psilocyde> ok so pastebin that?
[16:35] <psilocyde> or did you get it?
[16:36] <genii> psilocyde: OK. It looks like somewhere along the way when you followed the instructions to recompile alsa, it failed and so now you should follow exactly the steps on the original help site once more.
[16:36] <genii> psilocyde: We got it, thats fine
[16:36] <psilocyde> ok ty, will do
[16:36] <genii> psilocyde: Make sure you have build-essential and kernel headers installed before trying to compile them
[16:37] <genii> psilocyde: Also don't use the old version listed there, use the newest. I'll find a link, 1 moment
[16:37] <genii> !intelhda > genii
[16:37] <psilocyde> ok is that in this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto  ?
[16:37] <genii> psilocyde: Yes.
[16:37] <psilocyde> ok
[16:40] <incorrect> are the kubuntu kde4 bins only rc 2?
[16:40] <genii> psilocyde: You can get the latest files (instead of the ones linked to in that tutorial) from http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download    same names as in the help link tho, just later
[16:40] <frank_> !kde4 | incorrect
[16:40] <ubotu> incorrect: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:41] <frank_> incorrect: there are newer kde4 releases in the ppa repository
[16:41] <lovre> hi all
[16:41] <incorrect> thanks
[16:42] <psilocyde> genni:  those are the drivers i used
[16:42] <lovre> i have a question. I have a nVidia 7900GS graphics card. I have two DVI connectors. Can i connect two monitors? Does kubuntu support that? Is it hard to configure?
[16:42] <Ax-Ax> I want my program's interfaces to be in english by deafault. I don't like the swedish retarded translations. How do I change that?
[16:42] <genii> psilocyde: After you think you are done, do not close the console. Instead, copy and paste it to another pastebin for examination.
[16:42] <psilocyde> ok
[16:43] <frank_> lovre: do you have the binary nvidia driver installed?
[16:43] <warren_> hi
[16:44] <warren_> someone knows a good KDE or QT program to convert easily an avi to a dvd structure (with reencoding)
[16:45] <frank_> warren_: you can use tovid for that. not sure if it's kde
[16:45] <frank_> !info tovid
[16:45] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[16:46] <warren_> i need a prog in gui
[16:47] <frank_> warren_: it is gui. but not in the repositories it seems...
[16:47] <genii> !info devede
[16:47] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[16:47] <lovre> frank_: yes i have
[16:48] <warren_> yeah but it's a gtk app
[16:48] <warren_> i would like to know if heres a kde app
[16:49] <Tw|sT> !info PMref
[16:49] <ubotu> Package pmref does not exist in gutsy
[16:49] <Ax-Ax> I want my program's interfaces to be in english by deafault. I don't like the swedish retarded translations. How do I change that? i tried /etc/default/locale but it didn't help
[16:49] <frank_> lovre: the easiest way to setup dual screen is to install the nvidia-settings package and use that
[16:49] <oxi_> hello is it allowed to speak german?
[16:49] <frank_> !de | oxi_
[16:49] <ubotu> oxi_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:49] <lovre> frank_: i have that installed
[16:49] <lovre> frank_: so it should not be a problem?
[16:49] <genii> oxi_: English is preferred.
[16:50] <Tw|sT> PMref would be a killer addition to the repos.  I wish the dood who made it would build a better setup for it though... but it's a great Cuseeme compatibile reflector, and it works with NAT.
[16:50] <oxi_> thanks
[16:50] <frank_> lovre: well it 'should' not. but you can backup your /etc/xorg/conf just in case
[16:50] <frank_> lovre: well it 'should' not. but you can backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf just in case
[16:50] <Tw|sT> I've been looking for a simple way to set it up as a service, but their service installer doesn't work correctly for me.
[16:51] <Tw|sT> Not to mention, the PMref service installer is only written for Win32 & Mac... which means I'll have to adapt it to linux.
[16:51] <Tw|sT> oooow.... bad form.  One should never use IRC as 'root'
[16:53] <astan> hey. can i install everything to an XFS partition, including the root file system and /boot?
[16:54] <frank_> astan: AFAIK that is not recommended but I'm not sure why....
[16:55] <astan> frank_: i'd like to do it to test something. i'm having an issue with my RAID controller, and a couple of people with the same problem have said that using XFS instead of EXT3 seemed to not trigger the problem.. probably due to different disk access patter.. i'd like to test if that's true for me too.
[16:56] <astan> but the installer supports installing to to XFS?
[16:56] <lovre> frank_: ok thank you..
[16:56] <genii> Tw|sT: Sometimes you see so many the last one is named root_______________
[16:56] <frank_> astan: I think it does. but I've never installed a system to xfs
[16:56] <frank_> lovre: it worked?
[16:56] <astan> frank_: hm. ok.
[16:58] <lovre> frank_: i didnt try it yet.. The monitor is VGA but the output is DVI, so i need an adapter....
[16:58] <frank_> lovre: ok
[16:58] <Daisuke_Ido> oh how i hate lexmark
[16:59] <Tw|sT> genii : I hear that...  Well... I hope learn eventually, and not the hard way.
[16:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i hate them with a passion previously reserved only for winmodems and counterstrike players.
[16:59] <Tw|sT> ^they^
[16:59] <Daisuke_Ido> so i managed to get my future in-laws switched over to linux, and they love it
[17:00] <Daisuke_Ido> but the teensy snag is a lexmark 2300 printer that they can now not use...  does lexmark deliberately make their hardware incredibly difficult to use?
[17:04] <rofe> hola frikies
[17:06] <jpatrick> !es | rofe
[17:06] <ubotu> rofe: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:16] <lali> hi, does anyone know if the live-cd is soppoused to know how to read ntfs?
[17:16] <llutz> lali: reading ntfs shouldn't be a problem
[17:17] <lali> llutz: i can't get it to work... and i dont remamber the error-message either =/
[17:18] <lali> i tried with four diffrent disks, too
[17:22] <lali> the volumes is visible, but the contents is missing =( maybe that will solve by it self when i install the os on disk...
[17:47] <ar0nic> hey guys is there a sticky for all cli commands
[17:47] <ar0nic> for ubuntu/debian
[17:48] <jpatrick> !cli | ar0nic
[17:48] <ubotu> ar0nic: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:48] <ar0nic> for instance if i wanted  to manually edit the xorg,conf
[17:48] <ar0nic> ?
[17:48] <jpatrick> ar0nic: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:49] <admin_> When I alt+tab I don't get the list of apps
[17:49] <admin_> how do I get that back?
[17:49] <ar0nic> cannot connect to x server
[17:50] <admin_> hi ar0nic
[17:52] <ar0nic> im fatal server server is already active for display 0 if this server is no longer running remove /tmp/.x0-lock
[17:52] <joe2370> Hi. I really hate Strigi and Dolphin.  I can't find where to change back to the KDE defaults.  Where should I look?  Thanks.
[17:53] <joe2370> Will simply uninstalling them solve the problem?
[17:54] <ar0nic> yes you could remove them from the package manager
[17:54] <jussi01> !dolphin | joe2370
[17:54] <ubotu> joe2370: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[17:54] <joe2370> jussi01: thanks
[17:55] <ar0nic> jussi01
[17:55] <ar0nic> remove /tmp/.x0-lock is the command its giving me
[17:55] <jussi01> :)
[17:55] <ar0nic> how do excute as remove is not an option
[17:55] <ar0nic> err command
[17:57] <jussi01> rm /tmp/.x0-lock
[17:58] <joe2370> jussi01: thanks again.
[18:00] <ar0nic> no such file or directory
[18:00] <ar0nic> this is startin to piss me off
[18:00] <ar0nic> im sure its user error but this out of control
[18:02] <genii> psilocyde: You still alive over there?
[18:04] <jussi01> ar0nic: whats the actual problem, I missed it...
[18:05] <ar0nic> jussi01 i dont even know now
[18:05] <ar0nic> ive been having issues with videos only playing sound
[18:05] <jussi01> ar0nic: what were you orginally trying to do when you ran into problems?
[18:06] <ar0nic> i installed all codec packages and have had not any luck
[18:06] <ar0nic> i then installed envy thinking it may help with gfx card drivers
[18:06] <ar0nic> it then messed upt he install so i formatted and did a fresh install
[18:07] <jussi01> ar0nic: dont play with envy...
[18:07] <ar0nic> im trying to edit my xorg.conf to add some lines in about my gfx card
[18:07] <jussi01> aroo_: which gfx card?
[18:07] <ar0nic> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637569&postcount=9
[18:07] <ar0nic> ati mobility radeon 7500c
[18:07] <ar0nic> but now im having issues having it boot into ubuntu it keeps going straight to console
[18:08] <ubuntu> hi there, i updated my kubuntu yesterday(after install). and now when i try to start it it says file missing(at boot time) or whatnot, and also my windows instalation is messed too(hal.dll missin), so great kubuntu screwed my pc... now anyone know how do i fix this?
[18:08] <jussi01> ar0nic: I assume you have followed the instructions in !ati ?
[18:08] <jussi01> ubuntu: gutsy or hardy?
[18:08] <ubuntu> gusty
[18:08] <ar0nic> no i havent
[18:09] <jussi01> !ati
[18:09] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:09] <ar0nic> cause when reconfig'ing x0rg every time i get to the color bit depth i get this error
[18:09] <jussi01> ar0nic: follow those instructions then let me know how things are
[18:09] <ubuntu> -also someho i cant acess my hd from this live dvd kubuntu im running o.O
[18:09] <ar0nic> xserver-xorg postinst warning overwriting possibly customised config file, bacli[ om /etc/x11/xorg....
[18:09] <jussi01> ar0nic: thats fine
[18:10] <jussi01> overite it
[18:10] <ar0nic> hwo to overwrite?
[18:10] <re-align> !pastebin | ar0nic
[18:10] <ubotu> ar0nic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:10] <ar0nic> why do i needpaste been?
[18:11] <ar0nic> err pastebin
[18:11] <re-align> To be used for posting long texts, such as eror messages, bits of source code, etc.
[18:11] <re-align> error*
[18:11] <ar0nic> yeah i got it
[18:12] <ar0nic> what is the easiest way to edit the xorg.conf
[18:12] <ar0nic> i cant change directorys or anything
[18:12] <ar0nic> im in root
[18:12] <sui> hi
[18:12] <re-align> You using the live CD/DVD?
[18:12] <ar0nic> no
[18:13] <ubuntu> so, anyone got the slightest clue on my case?
[18:13] <jussi01> ar0nic: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:13] <jussi01> !chroot | ubuntu
[18:13] <ubotu> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[18:13] <jussi01> hmmm
[18:13] <re-align> Are you using the command line?
[18:13] <jussi01> not quite what i had in mind
[18:13] <ar0nic> heh it didnt pull up the file
[18:14] <ar0nic> it pulled a "new file"
[18:14] <ar0nic> at t he top it says file:/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:14] <ar0nic> there is nothing in the screen
[18:14] <jussi01> ar0nic: did you make sure the bits in capital were correct?
[18:14] <oren> can someone please help me, im having tons of audio problems
[18:15] <jussi01> oren: audio card please
[18:15] <oren> in mp3 it sounds all speeded up
[18:15] <oren> chaintech av-710
[18:15] <ubuntu> so this is a 32bit vs 64 issue?(i am on 64 in the install)
[18:15] <ar0nic> lol it just told me to be resonable
[18:15] <ar0nic> lol
[18:15] <jussi01> ubuntu: no, you can chroot into your install to fix stuff thats all
[18:15] <oren> and with video it plays once when i reboot and after that if i play something else there is no sound
[18:15] <jussi01> ar0nic: hehe
[18:16] <ar0nic> im toatlly confuseed
[18:16] <jussi01> ar0nic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:16] <ar0nic> ^r to read file
[18:16] <ar0nic> doesnt work jussi
[18:16] <daSkreecH> My alt+tab no longer shows the program lise
[18:16] <daSkreecH> list
[18:16] <daSkreecH> .o0(Damn you compiz)
[18:16] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: What's the problem?
[18:16] <jussi01> daSkreecH: tried ctrl tab ?
[18:16] <ar0nic> it stops at the color depth bit and bitches about overwriting a custom xorg.conf
[18:17] <daSkreecH> jussi01: Huh?
[18:17] <jussi01> daSkreecH: try ctrl+tab
[18:17] <jussi01> daSkreecH: ubuntu's prob: hi there, i updated my kubuntu yesterday(after install). and now when i try to start it it says file missing(at boot time) or whatnot, and also my windows instalation is messed too(hal.dll missin), so great kubuntu screwed my pc... now anyone know how do i fix this?
[18:17] <jussi01> ar0nic: so say yes to the question
[18:17] <jussi01> ar0nic: you may need to hit <tab>
[18:18] <ar0nic> jussi im in gnu nano
[18:18] <jussi01> ar0nic: ctrl x to exit
[18:18] <ar0nic> cntrl R opens a screen
[18:18] <daSkreecH> jussi01: ctrl+tab switches tabs not apps
[18:18] <oren> can someone please help me, im having tons of audio problems
[18:18] <ar0nic> file to instert
[18:18] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: Hardy?
[18:18] <oren> in mp3 it sounds all speeded up
[18:18] <oren> and with video it plays once when i reboot and after that if i play something else there is no sound
[18:18] <ubuntu> gusty
[18:18] <ar0nic>  it would be xorg.conf right?
[18:19] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: sounds like a file system error. Run sudo fscks on the hard drive
[18:19] <ar0nic> jussi01 found a file browser
[18:19] <daSkreecH> jussi01: when I press Alt+tab it instantly jumps to an application
[18:20] <ubuntu> i dont know what ur talking about dask
[18:20] <ubuntu> or how to do it
[18:20] <ar0nic> ok jussi01 ive found two backups and my xorg.comf
[18:20] <ar0nic> should i delette the backups?
[18:20] <jussi01> ar0nic: no.
[18:21] <jussi01> ar0nic: just slow down for a moment.
[18:21] <ar0nic> im going to attempt to edit the xorg.conf for my vid card
[18:21] <jussi01> ar0nic: go to a normal command line.
[18:21] <ar0nic> did i shoot you that link
[18:21] <ar0nic> dude i just got to the screen to edit the xorg.conf
[18:21] <ar0nic> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637569&postcount=9
[18:22] <jussi01> ar0nic: you dont have an xorg atm. you need to get one, so run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:22] <ar0nic> i just seen that in the man
[18:22] <jussi01> ar0nic: that ill give you a brand new xorg
[18:22] <oren> why do mp3s sound all sped up?
[18:22] <jussi01> oren: which player are you playing them in?
[18:23] <ar0nic> k im at shell
[18:23] <jussi01> ar0nic: ok, run that command I just gave you
[18:23] <ar0nic> samn error
[18:23] <jussi01> ar0nic: press y then enter
[18:23] <ar0nic> complains about over writing a custom conf
[18:24] <ar0nic> it jumps back to root
[18:24] <ar0nic> doesnt give me an option
[18:24] <oren> jussi01: amarok?
[18:24] <jussi01> ar0nic: great. it doesnt complain, it warns
[18:24] <ar0nic> lol
[18:24] <oren> im using fiesty fawn too
[18:25] <jussi01> ar0nic: so now, restart, you should get a basic desktop
[18:25] <luklew_> hi all
[18:25] <ar0nic> well it gives postinst warning:
[18:25] <jussi01> !mp3 | oren please follow the guide here
[18:25] <ubotu> oren please follow the guide here: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:25] <jussi01> ar0nic: exactly what does it give?
[18:26] <ubuntu> ok im really not sure what im i suposed to do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[18:26] <ubuntu> and fscks doesnt exist
[18:26] <jussi01> ubuntu: nm that link for now
[18:26] <ubuntu> im using live dvd kubuntu 7.10 64bit
[18:26] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: ok give me the history what happened?
[18:26] <^u^> ubuntu, it is fsck
[18:27] <ubuntu> alright i installed kubuntu then updated it yesterday
[18:27] <luklew_> i use kubuntu 5 days,  kubuntu RLZ!!
[18:27] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: Ok
[18:27] <ubuntu> today it wont start, at boot time it says file missing
[18:27] <jussi01> luklew_: cool. can we help with anything?
[18:27] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab for me
[18:27] <ar0nic> ok jussi01 back in kde
[18:27] <daSkreecH> !paste | ubuntu
[18:27] <ubuntu> and windows says the same, maissing hal.dll
[18:27] <jussi01> ar0nic: great
[18:27] <krzysiek> hello everybody
[18:27] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:27] <ar0nic> ok can we work on the vid drivers
[18:27] <jussi01> !ati | ar0nic, now follow this
[18:27] <ubuntu> yeah i got that part
[18:27] <ubotu> ar0nic, now follow this: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:27] <luklew_> jassi01, sry, i don't speak good english ;/
[18:28] <ar0nic> it comes up with kde sudo terminal program someting about NO CLOSE
[18:28] <jussi01> !pl | luklew_
[18:28] <ubotu> luklew_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[18:28] <ubuntu> problem is
[18:28] <ar0nic> and my touchpad has locked up.
[18:28] <ubuntu> i cant accesss my hds
[18:28] <oren> i already have the restriced formats thing installed its something else
[18:28] <ar0nic> tochpad is not working now
[18:28] <jussi01> ar0nic: are you sure you are on gutsy?
[18:28] <krzysiek> I hame a little problem with rmvb. Can anybody help me??
[18:28] <ar0nic>   7.10
[18:28] <ar0nic> fresh install
[18:29] <ar0nic> my first install went fine, configured everything perfectly i could not get any video thru any player with all needed codecs
[18:29] <krzysiek> I have a little problem with rmvb. Can anybody help me??
[18:29] <ar0nic> so i tried removing all packages and using automatix
[18:29] <jussi01> ar0nic: on this install????
[18:29] <ar0nic> i then purged automatix and tried envy
[18:29] <ar0nic> then had to format
[18:29] <ar0nic> no
[18:30] <ar0nic> this is a clean install
[18:30] <jussi01> ok, dont use those scripts.
[18:30] <ar0nic> but messing with the xorg.conf has made my touchpad not work
[18:30] <jussi01> now, what exactly happened with that error it just gave you?
[18:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> automatix and envy?  both have been obsolete for at least a year :\
[18:31] <ubuntu> so i cant acess my /etc/fstab cause i cant acess my hd...
[18:31] <ar0nic> it hasnt gave me an error jussi01..when i booted up kubuntu it tried to acces the terminal program
[18:31] <jussi01> ar0nic: in order to help you, I need you to follow what I say, and report clearly to me the errors that it gives - if you do other things while im talking to you, it may mess up what I am attempting
[18:31] <ubuntu> and i also dont know how to fix my windows install...=/
[18:32] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: ok type mkdir drive
[18:32] <ubuntu> i think this is a boot issue btw
[18:32] <ar0nic> my touchpad doesnt work so i canceled the terminal program attempt
[18:32] <ar0nic> and now im in the gui with no working touchpad
[18:32] <jussi01> ar0nic: do you have mouse access at all?
[18:32] <ubuntu> mkdir drive returns nothing
[18:32] <ar0nic> unfornutely no.
[18:33] <ar0nic> my touch pad was working just fine
[18:33] <jussi01> ubuntu: when a unix/linux comand is successful it usually returns nothing
[18:33] <ubuntu> mkdir: cannot create directory `drive': File exists
[18:33] <ubuntu> -i tried again
[18:33] <ar0nic> then it wanted to load the terminal and it quit working...
[18:33] <ar0nic> should i go back to the terminal and reconfigure xorg.conf again for the mouse and keyboard ?
[18:34] <jussi01> ar0nic: please try restarting x for me, (ctrl+alt+backspace then ctrl+e)
[18:34] <ubuntu> everytime i try to acess the hds it says it refused uid 999
[18:34] <ubuntu> >.<
[18:34] <ar0nic> rebooted x
[18:35] <ubuntu> i tried acessing through sudo konqueror(dont know if this helps but...) and nothing either
[18:35] <ar0nic> ok when i reboot i immediantly get a kdesudo window
[18:35] <jussi01> ar0nic: put your password in
[18:35] <krzysiek> I have a little problem with rmvb. Can anybody help me??
[18:35] <ar0nic> it wants admin privledges  and t he command is konsole -session (series of #'s and letters) --noclose
[18:35] <ubuntu> seems that the only solution so far is reinstall... BUT, im still worried about my windows instalation, AND will the same thing happen again when i update it al over...
[18:36] <ar0nic> so load back into terminal?
[18:36] <ar0nic> it opened a shell konsole.. jussi01
[18:37] <jussi01> ar0nic: this is a very weird problem. do you now have mouse control?
[18:37] <ar0nic> no
[18:37] <psycose> i got a problem using shell read command in a Makefile as explain here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59608/ any tips ? thanks
[18:38] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: so the drive is mounted but you can't view the contents?
[18:38] <ubuntu> no its not mount, i can not mount it...
[18:38] <ar0nic> no mouse jussi01 it is weird
[18:38] <ubuntu> some suposed ownership problem
[18:39] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: do sudo fdisk -l    and see what device your drive is
[18:39] <ubuntu> refused iud 999
[18:39] <jussi01> ar0nic: ok, try reboot, and boot into recovery mode, then run the video fix option there
[18:39] <ar0nic> yeah thats the video fix what about my touchpad issue...
[18:39] <jussi01> oh, hang on, not sure if it has that on gutsy
[18:40] <ar0nic> !ati
[18:40] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:41] <ubuntu> it says unrecognized command
[18:41] <prince_jammys> for fdisk?
[18:41] <ubuntu> yeah
[18:42] <prince_jammys> sudo fdisk -l    gives that error
[18:42] <ubuntu> error 27
[18:43] <ubuntu> do you guys think if i reinstall it will fix everything, including my windows, missin hal.dll, problem?
[18:45] <prince_jammys> ubutu: are you in a grub shell?
[18:45] <ubuntu> no
[18:45] <ubuntu> holdon ill try it
[18:45] <prince_jammys> try what?
[18:45] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: can you open a new terminal and do: sudo fdisk -l
[18:46] <ubuntu> ok it ran
[18:46] <ubuntu> no retunr but thats positive i supose
[18:46] <ubuntu> my mistake
[18:46] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Could someone please recommend a firewall which enables me to control which applications can access the internet from which ones can't? (it must have this feature, I already heard of Firestarter and Guarddog, not those)
[18:46] <ubuntu> what kind of info do u guys want
[18:47] <prince_jammys> the /dev of your ubuntu partition
[18:47] <ubuntu> ---/dev/sda1               1        4863    39062016   83  Linux
[18:47] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: ok:  sudo mkdir /media/repair
[18:47] <ubuntu> ---/dev/sda2            4864       15440    84959752+  83  Linux
[18:47] <ubuntu> holdon
[18:48] <ubuntu> ---/dev/sda3           15441       15805     2931862+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[18:48] <ubuntu> --/dev/sda4   *       15806       19456    29326657+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:48] <ubuntu> thats what i got
[18:49] <ubuntu> ok did that and nothing
[18:49] <prince_jammys> that's fine
[18:50] <ubuntu> its weird
[18:50] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /media/repair
[18:50] <ubuntu> that report seems to say the boot is in sda4(win install) when it should be at sda1
[18:50] <prince_jammys> there's also two linux partitions
[18:50] <ubuntu> yes thats normal
[18:51] <ubuntu> one for linux install, other for files
[18:51] <prince_jammys> ok
[18:51] <ubuntu> my swap, and teh win install
[18:51] <prince_jammys> the files is /home ?
[18:51] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: you can't mount them?
[18:52] <ubuntu> no i cant mount them, its a freaking uid 999 problem, i dont knwo.... >.<
[18:52] <ubuntu> holdon trying the mount
[18:52] <ar0nic> in the xorg.conf reconfigure how do you go back a screen
[18:52] <ar0nic> ?
[18:53] <ubuntu> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/repair ok did this...
[18:53] <ubuntu> YES
[18:54] <ubuntu> now i can acess it
[18:54] <ar0nic> boom same f'n error
[18:54] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: this whole thing now: sudo mkdir /media/repair2 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/repair2
[18:54] <ubuntu> alright
[18:54] <ar0nic> axserver-xorgposinstall warning: overwriting possibly-customised config file; back in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[18:54] <ubuntu> done
[18:55] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: can you browse to them now?
[18:55] <ubuntu> yes, i could on teh first attempt
[18:55] <ubuntu> the smaller thing u gave me
[18:55] <ubuntu> now what?
[18:55] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: yeah but that only mounted one of your two partitions, now they're both mounted
[18:55] <ubuntu> no tey arent
[18:56] <ubuntu> only one is, but doesnt matter
[18:56] <ubuntu> i only need sda1
[18:56] <ar0nic> !xorg
[18:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:56] <ubuntu> its where the install is, sda2 has nothing
[18:57] <ubuntu> crap
[18:57] <ubuntu> problem
[18:57] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: what?
[18:57] <ubuntu> i can only see the folders, where as if i TRY to acess anything.... inside...
[18:57] <ubuntu> i get the same problem as before
[18:58] <ubuntu> oh nm
[18:58] <ubuntu> it complained but let me in
[18:58] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: paste the /etc/fstab file in the pastebin
[18:59] <ubuntu> there is nothing wrong on menu.lst
[18:59] <ubuntu> my knowledge ends there so...
[18:59] <ubuntu> any tips now that i can-suposedly-maybe acess the hd
[18:59] <prince_jammys> let's see  /media/repair/etc/fstab
[18:59] <ubuntu> permission denied
[19:00] <ar0nic> !restricted packages
[19:00] <ar0nic> !restricted
[19:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:01] <ubuntu> ok, so no sucess
[19:01] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: how did you try to view it?
[19:02] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: sudo cat /media/repair/etc/fstab
[19:02] <ubuntu> view what?
[19:02] <prince_jammys> fstab
[19:02] <ddurham> kwin has a memory leak in kubuntu hardy, right?
[19:02] <ubuntu> ok teh cat worked
[19:02] <ubuntu> holdon
[19:02] <prince_jammys> !paste
[19:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:02] <ddurham> I'm seeing it steadily creep up
[19:02] <thewhitepelican> does anyone know how to switch between the guest and the host in VirtualBox if the guest is kubuntu?
[19:03] <stdin> ddurham: hardy support/question only in #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59610/
[19:04] <ar0nic> how do you moveback a screen in the xorg config
[19:05] <ar0nic> fuckin  same error
[19:05] <jussi01> !ohmy
[19:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:06] <ubuntu> guys im ready to go for teh reinstall option if that will fix things... wno the problem is, will it?
[19:06] <ubuntu> wht will happen to my windows install, and wil it crash again once i reupdate?
[19:07] <ubuntu> i mean kubuntu crash again, btw
[19:08] <waqas> hi
[19:10] <ubuntu> i guess this silence means everyones feels just as lost as i do...
[19:11] <jussi01> ubuntu: just out of interest, did you try the recovery boot?
[19:12] <ubuntu> u mean press esc while its loading?
[19:12] <jussi01> ubuntu: no, when grub comes up, choose recovery, not the normal kernel
[19:13] <ubuntu> oh, yeah
[19:13] <ubuntu> same thing
[19:13] <ubuntu> file missing
[19:13] <ubuntu> =/
[19:13] <ubuntu> its really messed up
[19:14] <jussi01> ubuntu: did you have extra repos (ie. non-ubuntu) added?
[19:16] <ubuntu> no
[19:16] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: remount with -o umask=0022
[19:16] <ubuntu> not that i am aware of anyway, all i did was install, fix my sound-alsa driver dl- then, restart, reuse, blablah, then update, then it gave me a few crashes in teh update
[19:17] <ubuntu> things like it said it had just updated to 7.10.. did it go mad? and also it had a problem finishing it because somehting else was running updates.... lies! ...so, then i turned off
[19:17] <ubuntu> and ended up here
[19:18] <ubuntu> dark what exactly is it u want me to type there?
[19:18] <daSkreecH> ubuntu: what did you type to mount it?
[19:19] <ubuntu> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /media/repair
[19:19] <ubuntu> actually it was sda1
[19:19] <daSkreecH>  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /media/repair -o remount,umask=0022
[19:19] <ubuntu> mount: /media/repair not mounted already, or bad option
[19:24] <popikyardo> всем привет!
[19:24] <ubuntu> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656
[19:25] <ubuntu> i got error 15 i think
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> !ru
[19:25] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:32] <ubuntu> no more ideas eh...
[19:39] <ubuntu> i tried the solution shown there for problem 15
[19:39] <ubuntu> no use
[19:39] <ubuntu> errors
[19:40] <hokatichenci> So I've got this brand new system that I put kubuntu 7.10 on, I'm trying to get my monitor working, but the System Settings administration mode is completely broken
[19:41] <hokatichenci> Is this a known issue? Seems pretty major for the administration mode to completely break...
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> hokatichenci: is this not the primary (first created) user?
[19:44] <hokatichenci> no, it is the primary user, this is a fresh install
[19:44] <hokatichenci> Installed the system, apt-get update + upgrade, reboot = admin mode totally borked
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> hokatichenci: try tunning "kdesudo kcmserver displayconfig"
[19:45] <ar0nic> im becoming jaded on kubuntu
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> ar0nic: problems?
[19:47] <hokatichenci> nosrednaekim: lots of complaints while trying to run kdesudo
[19:47] <ubuntu> i can, now with the other fix
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> hokatichenci: pastebin them
[19:48] <ar0nic> i wish i wouldnt of fubared my first install, everything worked off the rip except my video playback issue
[19:48] <hokatichenci> kcmserver displayconfig was command not found
[19:49] <hokatichenci> kdesudo systemsettings was a lot of complaints
[19:49] <ubuntu> dang i must say kubuntu looks good but it crashes like crazy
[19:49] <ar0nic> yeah its very buggy it seams
[19:50] <ubuntu> ubuntu neve bugged on me
[19:50] <ubuntu> T.T
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> hokatichenci: sorry, "kdesudo kcmshell displayconfig"\
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> without the \
[19:55] <ar0nic> ugh i give up
[19:55] <ar0nic> the support channels the tutorials are all useless
[19:56] <ar0nic> it could very well be user error but this is rediculous
[19:56] <Pici> ar0nic: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu ?
[19:56] <ar0nic> yes.
[19:57] <hokatichenci> nosrednaekim: I think I've gotten around the problem
[19:57] <hokatichenci> I was able to do a sudo systemsettings and work my way around the retardation
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> sudo?
[19:59] <hokatichenci> yeah
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> use kdesudo.... sudo isn't meant for graphical apps
[20:00] <hokatichenci> Not sure why X has to be so complicated for this screen
[20:00] <hokatichenci> kdesudo of systemsettings was totally broken :)
[20:00] <hokatichenci> lots of dcop errors
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> unless of course kdesudo is broken
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> could you pastebin them?
[20:02] <hokatichenci> its graphical errors, nothing to the konsole
[20:02] <vinnie5> can someone please tell me what hd1,7 refers to?
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: it refers to your second hard disk, partition # 8
[20:03] <genii> vinnie5: Second hard drive BIOS sees, 8th partition
[20:03] <vinnie5> ahh... thank you
[20:03] <genii> nosrednaekim: heh
[20:04] <genii> vinnie5: Zero (0)  counts as first in both cases
[20:05] <vinnie5> im trying to fix menu.lst
[20:05] <hokatichenci> Bleh ubuntu is getting nowhere, I'm going to install fedora core
[20:05] <hokatichenci> thanks anyways guys
[20:06] <venik> how (where) do I check the speed and settings of my network card?
[20:06] <llutz> venik: ethtool
[20:08] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, sounds like that guy really put some effort into getting things working...
[20:09] <llutz> Daisuke_Ido: don't waste your time with those trolls
[20:09] <Daisuke_Ido> llutz: oh, i'm not.
[20:09] <ar0nic> Daisuke- im going to ubuntu
[20:10] <ar0nic> kubuntu is a problematic f**k
[20:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ar0nic: same base system.  what's going wrong now?
[20:10] <ar0nic> maybe its kde im not a fan of
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> couldn't even give me a pastebin... huh.
[20:10] <ar0nic> not sure
[20:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ar0nic: desktop environments are completely subjective, and lead to the most pointless flame wars ever
[20:11] <ar0nic> my first install was perfect, sans the video playback issue, i tried everything there was to do to get that problem working, i then moved on to vid drivers and installed envy on the advice of a zillion threads
[20:11] <Daisuke_Ido> the advice of a zillion threads that were how old?
[20:11] <ar0nic> 07
[20:11] <Daisuke_Ido> envy is neither recommended nor supported
[20:12] <ar0nic> any how, this fubard the install
[20:12] <Daisuke_Ido> no surprise, honestly
[20:12] <ar0nic> so i said f it ill format and reinstall, so i do so, and go back to trying to setup up the appropiate drivers for my vid card
[20:12] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a restricted driver manager for both kde and gnome that will set up the appropriate drivers for you
[20:12] <ar0nic> using the reconfigure xorg.conf
[20:13] <ar0nic> neither of them worked Daisuke_Ido
[20:13] <ar0nic> nothing worked
[20:13] <Daisuke_Ido> what's your card?
[20:13] <ar0nic> i purged all installed codecs and started fresh
[20:13] <Daisuke_Ido> codecs have nothing to do with video drivers.
[20:13] <ar0nic> first trying automatix which i found out many people do not enjoy
[20:14] <vinnie5> ok heres the deal. I installed kubuntu /root=hdb5, /swap=hdb6, /home=hdb7. I then installed pclinuxos /root=hdb8, /swap=hdb9, /home=hdb10. I then realized i may have screwd up on kubuntu so I reinstalled it. I deleted hdb5,6,7 which moved 8,9,10 back to positions 5,6,7. kubunto then created hdb3,4,8 so grub is now confused on finding pclinuxos. can someone please tell me how to fix menu.lst so it will boot correctly?
[20:14] <ar0nic> Daisuke_Ido i understand that but when you've installed all proper codecs and you still have no vid playback but perfect sound what do you do?
[20:14] <ar0nic> i moved on to the driver aspect
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: #1, you can keep the /home's and the swaps the same.
[20:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what proper codecs did you install?
[20:15] <vinnie5> ahh
[20:15] <ar0nic> started with medibuntu
[20:15] <ar0nic> w32 codecs
[20:15] <venik> what is the closest thing to the Device Manager of WINDOWS?
[20:15] <vinnie5> so.... i should just start from scrach again?
[20:15] <ar0nic> restricted drivers\modules as well
[20:15] <ar0nic> vlc player
[20:15] <ar0nic> m player
[20:15] <ar0nic> xine
[20:16] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, vlc wouldn't give playback?
[20:16] <ar0nic> no
[20:16] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't use external codecs
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: are you sure those partitions are now named 5,6,7? I didn't think partitions changed names
[20:16] <Daisuke_Ido> kind of a blue...liney output?
[20:16] <ar0nic> and the first thing i did after my format and reinstall was install only vlc
[20:16] <ar0nic> no
[20:16] <ar0nic> black screen
[20:16] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using compiz?
[20:16] <ar0nic> do not know what that is but it is defaulted as off i believe right?
[20:17] <vinnie5> let me double check
[20:17] <Daisuke_Ido> right
[20:17] <ar0nic> so it needs to stay off correct?
[20:17] <ar0nic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:17] <ar0nic> been readingthis
[20:18] <vinnie5> yes.. i am browsing hdb5 right now in kubunto, and i see the files for pslinuxos
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> venik: there really isn't on in Linux.
[20:18] <ar0nic> saw this as well
[20:18] <ar0nic> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637569&postcount=9
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> *one
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: ok
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> so there is empty space before hdb5?
[20:18] <ar0nic> gonna try using ubuntu then  if i miss the kde ill isntall
[20:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ar0nic: good luck
[20:19] <vinnie5> no hdb4 is my /root for kubuntu
[20:19] <ar0nic> like i said i dont understand why these issues are happening
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: ok.. do you have a hdb1,2,3 ?
[20:20] <vinnie5> not 1, or 2.
[20:20] <ar0nic> but my damn touchpad which was configured properly during the first install and after the second install intall i reconfigured the xorg.conf does not work
[20:20] <vinnie5> 3 is my swap for kubuntu
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> whats hdb3?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> coukd you do a "fdisk -l /dev/hdb" ?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> and pastebin what it puts out
[20:20] <vinnie5> i realize i made a mess of things
[20:21] <vinnie5> ill give it a go
[20:22] <vinnie5> it says conot open hdb
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> give it a sudo
[20:24] <vinnie5> im new... how do i do that? sorry
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> enter "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb"
[20:28] <vinnie5> ok... worked this time is it ok to paste all this to the chanel?
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[20:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:29] <vinnie5> what syntax do i use?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> doesn't matter
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> plain test is fine
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> *text
[20:31] <vinnie5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59615/plain/
[20:33] <vignesh> how do i install kubuntu with existing ubuntu?
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: nice
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> vignesh: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:34] <vignesh> nosrednaekim, is that all? if i do that will i get kde in sessions list while logging in??
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> yes
[20:35] <vignesh> nosrednaekim, ty
[20:35] <vinnie5> nosrednaekim: does it look screwy?
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: ok... I see now
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> looks fine
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: could you pastebin your menu.conf as well?
[20:36] <vinnie5> menu.conf or menu.lst?
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> uhhh... yeah..menu.lst
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[20:36] <vinnie5> k... sec
[20:36] <Psycoshot> Hey, how can I tell the temperature of my cpu?
[20:36] <Psycoshot> without going into bios
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[20:39] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:39] <lovre> what would be an alternative way of saying "content management"?
[20:39] <vinnie5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59617/plain/
[20:39] <Psycoshot> ty
[20:39] <vinnie5> i did edit this. it is probably screwed
[20:39] <Fat-head> i am having trouble with kmix, when i select a new master channel so i can use my creative xmod's knob it resets once i press ok
[20:40] <vinnie5> nosrednaekim: kubuntu, and windows boots fine
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: your PClinuxOS options have two different partition numbers
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> ok.. so you just want pclinuxOS to boot?
[20:43] <vinnie5> nosrednaekim: all 3
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> 3?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> oh.. right
[20:43] <vinnie5> well not at one, but yes i want pclinux to boot
[20:44] <chealer> hi. what is Kubuntu's default package manager?
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> chealer- Adept?
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> adept
[20:44] <chealer> Dragnslcr, nosrednaekim: thanks
[20:45] <vinnie5> nosrednaekim: can it be fixed?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: sure.... is your pclinuxOS /home on hdb7 or 8?
[20:45] <vinnie5> 7
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59618/
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> note the changes int eh PClinux os sections
[20:50] <StevenJ> I am trying to tripple boot with Kubuntu as the last install. It goes through the install and on the reboot (no linux) It doesn't install a grub, any thoughts?
[20:50] <retloc> I am using Samba to share files to Winblows. I have a SMB user and Unix user and a windows user all with same UN and Pass. IP ranges are correct in my smb.conf yet i cannot access these folders from other machines and from the local kubuntu machine when I click on the shared folder it says smb://server/folder doesnt exist
[20:51] <StevenJ> On the windows machine you need to turn off simple file sharing.
[20:52] <vinnie5> nosrednaekim: ill give it a go... brb
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> vinnie5: ok
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> StevenJ: what are the other two? XP and vista?
[20:52] <StevenJ> XP and XP64 bit
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok... is kubuntu on another disc
[20:53] <StevenJ> I have it setup like this: 1st PRIMARY Partion XP 2ND PRIMARY PARTITION XP64 and the linux is on a single extended partion with 3 logical partions for the / swap and /home
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:54] <StevenJ> Oh if it matters any... I do have a 3 drive raid controller.. Seperate from that drive running ntfs
[20:55] <StevenJ> Mandrvia absolutely wouldn't install at all it kept trying to access some partions on my raid parity. So I was trying out Linux Mint and now Kubuntu.
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> it may be installing grub to the wrong disc..try settting the BIOS to boot the other drives
[20:55] <jussi01> !raid
[20:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:55] <jussi01> that may help
[20:55] <jussi01> ?
[20:55] <Biggles> ahh i need some help...I forget how to fix this :S
[20:55] <Biggles> I was  in adept manager and it crashed on the install
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[20:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:56] <retloc> I am using Samba to share files to Winblows. I have a SMB user and Unix user and a windows user all with same UN and Pass. IP ranges are correct in my smb.conf yet i cannot access these folders from other machines and from the local kubuntu machine when I click on the shared folder it says smb://server/folder doesnt exist
[20:56] <StevenJ> I'll take a look at that Jussi01. I think ubuntu is smart and is leaving my raid parity alone though..
[20:58] <StevenJ> Basicly I have 4 hard drives. 1x150 and (raid 3x750)
[20:59] <Psycoshot> anyone use ksensors?
[20:59] <StevenJ> The 150 is for all my OS's and the raid is for my ntfs partion.. for data and everything else..
[20:59] <Psycoshot> !sensor
[20:59] <Psycoshot> !sensors
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> StevenJ: yeah.... Grub is probably not installing the correct place.
[20:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sensor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:59] <Psycoshot> :(
[20:59] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:01] <Vermux> how do I manuallt upgrade to kubuntu 7.10? I cant do that through adept_manager
[21:02] <StevenJ> norsrednaekim, what do you think might be happening then. Cause I check the partions where it should be installing the ubuntu to.. and there is linux folders and files..
[21:02] <StevenJ> Is there anyway to correct this during the install.
[21:03] <Psycoshot> how do I run lm-sensors.mkdev.sh in kernel
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> StevenJ: yes... on the last page, there is an option to chane the boot install device.
[21:04] <sw> hello, is there also german support channel?
[21:05] <Vermux> how do I set up root password?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> !root
[21:05] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:05] <daSkreecH> !root
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> !de
[21:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:05] <StevenJ> Oh probably on that Advanced tab nosrednaekim?
[21:06] <StevenJ> I tried playing with it once before didn't have any luck, I'll give it a couple more tries unless you have other ideas..
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> not really
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> check what drive its installing too, but be careful that you don't mess up your raid
[21:07] <Vermux> how do I manually upgrade to kubuntu 7.10? I cant do that through adept_manager
[21:08] <retloc> I am using Samba to share files to Winblows. I have a SMB user and Unix user and a windows user all with same UN and Pass. IP ranges are correct in my smb.conf yet i cannot access these folders from other machines and from the local kubuntu machine when I click on the shared folder it says smb://server/folder doesnt exist
[21:08] <Biggles> kk ty i think that worked :)
[21:08] <Biggles> now ummm, whats the latest kernel?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> in ubuntu 7.10?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> or in general?
[21:09] <Biggles> 7.10 i guess..
[21:10] <Malro> my file wont load on my computer
[21:10] <Malro> i thinks its corupted
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !info linux-image-generic
[21:10] <ubotu> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[21:11] <Kr|ptiX> im haven problem again  connecting to none encrypted router i can connect to my home router  witch is wpa2 but i can connect t o my friends router witch doesn have any encryption any1 kno how to solve this problem
[21:11] <Kr|ptiX> cant*
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: i'm assuming you use knetworkmanager... what is it failing on? does it see the netowrk?
[21:11] <Biggles> how do i set the root password? I guess that wasn't set :S
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> !root
[21:12] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:12] <Kr|ptiX> yeah it see the network but when tryn to conenct it wont obtain ip
[21:12] <Kr|ptiX> i got wlan assistant to but still wont work with it either
[21:13] <Malro> when i start my comuter it says error code 104 or summin
[21:13] <Malro> so i have to use disk
[21:13] <Malro> :/
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: try doing it from the command line with the following commands
[21:13] <retloc> I am using Samba to share files to Winblows. I have a SMB user and Unix user and a windows user all with same UN and Pass. IP ranges are correct in my smb.conf yet i cannot access these folders from other machines and from the local kubuntu machine when I click on the shared folder it says smb://server/folder doesnt exist
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: "sudo iwconfig <wireless device name, probably wlan0 or ath0> ESSID <the essid>"
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> then "sudo dhclient <the wireless device>"
[21:14] <Malro> has the  file corupted on my laptop?
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> Malro: what file?
[21:14] <matthew_> how can i change my default shell?
[21:14] <Malro> the kununtu program
[21:14] <Malro> the hole thong
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> Malro: what kubuntu program?
[21:15] <Malro> thing*
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu won't boot?
[21:15] <Kr|ptiX> mine is eth1
[21:15]  * hubhub is away: Parti pour l'instant.
[21:15] <Malro> no
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: ok
[21:15]  * hubhub is back.
[21:15] <Malro> so im on the sd
[21:15] <Malro> cd
[21:15] <Kr|ptiX> k ill try
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> probably an intel then
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[21:15] <Malro> intel?
[21:15] <Malro> wht u meen
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> Malro: what error does it give you a\when you try to boot it?
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> Malro: wasn't meant for you
[21:15] <llutz> matthew_: use "usermod -s >shell<"
[21:16] <Malro> 104 file can not be found or summin
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> thats not good enough.... I need the EXACT error mesaage
[21:16] <Malro> :/
[21:16] <Kr|ptiX> k now wat
[21:16] <Malro> nvm im installing again
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: ran those two? you should be connected
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> (and got no errors I presume)
[21:17] <matthew_> llutz: I tried, "usermod -s fish" but it says fish doesn't exist.. i noticed bash is in /bin/bash, while fish is in /usr/bin/bash  -- might that be the problem?
[21:18] <llutz> matthew_: fish isn't a shell
[21:18] <llutz> fish is a protocol
[21:18] <Malro> ok i think for sure it says:......
[21:18] <matthew_> llutz: fish is a shell.. and there is an ubuntu package for it, too
[21:18] <Malro> Error code 104
[21:18] <matthew_> I can type "fish" and i am in the fish shell
[21:18] <llutz> matthew_: args, sry my bad
[21:18] <Malro> file can not be found
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> Malro: ok.... does failsafe work?
[21:19] <matthew_> "usermod -s /usr/bin/fish" doesn't work either.. says it doesn't exist
[21:19] <Malro> failsafe?
[21:19] <Malro> whats dat?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> Malro: should be an option in grub
[21:19] <Malro> cd?
[21:19] <llutz> matthew_: "which fish" gives you /usr/bin/fish?
[21:19] <matthew_> llutz: correct
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> matthew_: system settings->users and groups->modify your user and set the default shell to whaever
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> Malro: no,when you boot off the disc, you should get a menu that allows you to select windows or linux.... if you don't, just hit "esc
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> a couple times after the bios quits
[21:20] <ar0nic> good luck guys
[21:20] <ar0nic> im off to hopefully not have the same errors in ubuntu
[21:20] <Malro> ??
[21:20] <Malro> oh
[21:21] <matthew_> nosrednaekim: great.. that worked.
[21:21] <Malro> when i turn on laptop
[21:21] <Malro> says kubuntu or windows
[21:21] <Malro> so i press windows
[21:21] <Malro> and says the error code
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> and kubuntu says the same thing?
[21:21] <Malro> i ment kubuntu sorry
[21:21] <matthew_> nosrednaekim: actually it didnt.. i closed out of konsole, went back in and i am still in bash
[21:21] <Malro> windows vista works foine
[21:22] <Malro> fine*
[21:22] <Biggles> ahh stupid crap
[21:22] <Biggles> keeps disconnecting :S
[21:22] <llutz> matthew_: does "konsole" invoke a login-shell?
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Malro: did you install vista after XP and kubuntu?
[21:23] <Malro> no
[21:23] <Malro> i had vista
[21:23] <BluesKaj> hey gents, I just installed a Tivo and the forums don't have any answers to my problem > I installed pyTivo as per the instructions here: http://pytivo.armooo.net/wiki/LinuxInstall, but this command doesn't work (/path/to/python pyTivo.py)..now what would this path be in kubuntu ?
[21:23] <Malro> den installed kubuntu
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: /usr/bin/python iirc
[21:23] <matthew_> llutz: konsole should start you in the user's default shell.. i cannot imagine that it wouldn't.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> ok nosrednaekim thx , will give it a shot
[21:24] <Malro> i started with vista
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> Malro: ok....
[21:24] <Malro> then installed kubuntu
[21:25] <matthew_> llutz: wow... konsole is coded to launch bash, regardless of the user default.. wow.. At least I know where to set this now.  But this is not right behavior.
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> Malro: i'm not seeing any grub error 104
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> you sure thats right?
[21:25] <Malro> doesnt matter anywhay
[21:25] <Malro> im installing it on my harddrive again
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> ok
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> make sure you do manual partitioning and tell it to overwirte your old installation
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> and back up everything
[21:26] <Malro> ?
[21:27] <Malro> nvm
[21:27] <retloc> I am using Samba to share files to Winblows. I have a SMB user and Unix user and a windows user all with same UN and Pass. IP ranges are correct in my smb.conf yet i cannot access these folders from other machines and from the local kubuntu machine when I click on the shared folder it says smb://server/folder doesnt exist
[21:27] <Malro> is there a way to deleate vista off my hard-drive?
[21:27] <retloc> a hammer?
[21:27] <Malro> or kubuntu
[21:27] <retloc> reformat your drive
[21:28] <Malro> how i do dat?
[21:28] <retloc> boot from your OS of choice CD
[21:28] <retloc> follow on screen instructions
[21:28] <Biggles> how do i enable wifi?
[21:29] <jussi01> !wifi | Biggles
[21:29] <ubotu> Biggles: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:29] <jussi01> Biggles: nice nick :)
[21:29] <WizCraker> have a kde enviro and can't seem to find the actual place to configure networking information. can someone point me into the correct direction please?
[21:29] <Biggles> lol ty :)
[21:29] <Malro> 90%
[21:29] <gxk> Is there any way to bootup with the kubuntu cd and then mount a iso file as the cdrom / system for the installation as the normal installer fails after paritioning
[21:30] <matthew_> Biggles: by default, i have a little icon on the lower right that looks like a usb memory stick.. right-clicking that gives you a menu to connect via whatever wireless networking there is.
[21:33] <Kr|ptiX> nosrednaekim: naw that didnt work
[21:33] <Malro> my dad is going to help me set up compz-fusion tmoz
[21:38] <malro> the error code is actuly 15
[21:39] <malro> it says error code 15: file not found
[21:40] <malro> what has happend?
[21:41] <jpatrick> malro: any context?
[21:45] <Ayabara> anyone running kubuntu hardy here?
[21:45] <Arwen> Ayabara, me
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> I am on one machine. :)
[21:46] <tekteen> Ayabara: go to #ubuntu+1 for hardy help
[21:46] <jpatrick> !hardy | Ayabara
[21:46] <Ayabara> Arwen: is it working well for you? I have Ubuntu working good on my XPS M1530, and I'm thinking about installing kubuntu-desktop. I can never decide between Gnome and Kde, so it's best to have both installed :-)
[21:46] <ubotu> Ayabara: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:46] <jpatrick> tekteen: beat me to it.. :)
[21:46] <tekteen> lol
[21:46] <Ayabara> tekteen: ok
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> IF you have to ask... dont use it. :)
[21:46] <Arwen> Ayabara, it's mostly functional. Not any more broken than Gutsy at least.
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> I always install kubutu and ubuntu desktops
[21:47] <Ayabara> good thing I only asked if someone else use it :-)
[21:47] <Arwen> although the latest kernel release causes auto-reboots whenever you try to use a console framebuffer
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> there were some major issues with hardy in the last 2 weeks or so.
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> Arwen:  heh - thats a new one.. I alwyas wonder how these issues like that  happen.
[21:47] <gxk> anyone who have any ideas of why the installer crashes at 25% and the cdrom stops reading
[21:48] <Arwen> yep... and nobody can ever confirm the problems I have
[21:48] <Arwen> so..
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> i always disable the framebuffer,
[21:48] <Arwen> I always use it
[21:48] <Arwen> I use it more than I use X...
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> I use the console a lot. :) i just dont use the framebuffer console.
[21:48] <vinny13> ok i need help
[21:48] <Arwen> yeah, I can't tolerate 640x480
[21:49] <Arwen> dunno about you
[21:49] <vinny13> I think my wireless is crossed with my ethernet or something...
[21:49] <kristjan_> Arwen: using nvidia drivers?
[21:49] <Arwen> generic vesafb
[21:49] <tekteen> vinny13: what goes wrong?
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> you are talking so someone that started on a Timex Sinclare.. I can handle 40 x 80 characters
[21:49] <Ayabara> do you experienced kde'ers prefer kaffeine for your video player, or is mplayer & vlc better choices?
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Ayabara:  depends on what i am watching
[21:49] <vinny13> well when i use iwconfig my wireless pops up as eth0 and it doesnt work
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> lately ive been using gmplayer mainly
[21:50] <Arwen> Ayabara, MPlayer. Nothing else.
[21:50] <Arwen> and not GMPlayer... oh my god worthless garbage..
[21:50] <tekteen> I like kaffiene and vlc
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> Arwen:  yadda yadda.. :)
[21:51] <kristjan_> Arwen: if you higher resolution, then some manual tweaking is required https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[21:51] <kristjan_> *if you want
[21:51] <Arwen> kristjan_, that's not it
[21:51] <tekteen> I use mplayer for information and as a tool
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> i got my laptop set up where it boots geexbox for fast video player.
[21:51] <Arwen> it KERNEL PANICS when I try to load vesafb and X at the same time
[21:51] <Ayabara> Arwen: it puzzles me a bit that the mplayer volume on my system is much lower than the volume of totem and vlc (with volume to max, of course). I have to set a digital gain to make it loud enough
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> I got a few videos that are using some funky codec i cant get going in ubuntu. :(
[21:52] <Arwen> Dr_Willis, MPlayer with DirectShow loading will probably work
[21:52] <vinny13> any ideas?
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Ayabara:  ive noticed that issue also..  geexbox uses mplayer, and it has a much higher volume, then mplayer under ubuntu.
[21:52] <vinny13> ugh lag?
[21:52] <tekteen> Ayabara: I use vlc when kaffiene is too low (volume)
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> brb
[21:52] <Arwen> I turn my speakers up when I have volume issues...
[21:53] <Vermux> oy, I clicked alt+F2 in the middle of version upgrade installation and I dont c that window anymore
[21:53] <tekteen> Arwen: I can't I have a laptop
[21:53] <Arwen> hah
[21:53]  * Ayabara also has a laptop
[21:54] <Ayabara> and turning up the volume is risky business, cause suddenly another app will make a sound that is _loud_
[21:54] <Arwen> Ayabara, disable that app then
[21:54] <Arwen> any app that makes noise is one that needs to die, imo
[21:54] <Ayabara> if I adjust with mplayer as a reference I mean
[21:55]  * tekteen adds kde4's konsole to the to die list
[21:55] <Arwen> although, one problem I do have with MPlayer is that it implements volume control by boosting system volume
[21:55] <Ayabara> Arwen: I have, but it still annoys me that mplayer is low. I know I'm not easy to please here :-)
[21:55] <Arwen> irritating because it doesn't change it back
[21:55] <basy> hi i have installed package gimp-help-cs on my Kubuntu, how can i see this manual? plz
[21:55] <tekteen> anyone know how to disable sound in kde4's konsole?
[21:55] <Arwen> I think the option you need to turn off is "audible bell"
[21:55] <Arwen> not sure where it would be though
[21:56] <tekteen> ok
[21:56] <tekteen> I can do it in kde3
[21:56] <Vermux> is it ruined?
[21:56] <Ayabara> one more question. do you use compiz-fusion with your Ubuntu? is it as simple as turning it on? last time I had to get some custom kicker and panel stuff.
[21:58] <kristjan_> Ayabara: in hady? in gutsy you have to download other desktop pager
[21:58] <Ayabara> kristjan_: in hardy I haven't tried yet. Installing kubuntu-desktop as we speak
[21:59] <Ayabara> kristjan_: it works better in hardy?
[22:00] <kristjan_> Ayabara: no idea :-)
[22:00] <kristjan_> only played around with kde4 cd
[22:00] <Ayabara> ok :)
[22:02] <Ayabara> The default for Hardy will be KDE 3.x, right?
[22:02] <SlimeyPete> so I hear
[22:02] <tekteen> I think there are 2 cd's for hardy
[22:04] <fuhreal> is there any way to force an update check?
[22:05] <basy> Hi, My kubuntu default languages in order are: sk, cz, en, All aplications are in [sk] but gimp is [en], there is no [sk] translation of gimp and i want it in [cz] language, plz help.
[22:05] <SlimeyPete> fuhreal: "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal is one way
[22:05] <SlimeyPete> you can also force it via Adept
[22:09] <re-align> Anyone know how to get the default Windows fonts into Kubuntu (i.e. is there a package on medibuntu)?
[22:09] <tekteen> !msfonts
[22:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[22:09] <urbi> hehe
[22:13] <fuhreal> Anyone know how i can figure out why the installer keeps dieing no matter what i try to install?
[22:13] <SlimeyPete> run it from a terminal
[22:14] <SlimeyPete> see if it spits out any error messages
[22:14] <SlimeyPete> also, try using apt-get, aptitude or synaptic instead and see if that makes a difference
[22:14] <zaquan> helo
[22:14] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[22:14] <zaquan> can i ask
[22:14] <SlimeyPete> !ask
[22:15] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:15] <SlimeyPete> :)
[22:15] <zaquan> how to yahoo messenger in kubuntu
[22:15] <SlimeyPete> oh
[22:15] <fuhreal> SlimeyPete: running apt-get from term has finished what the gui installed failed to do
[22:15] <SlimeyPete> zaquan: kopete and pidgin/gaim support yahoo
[22:15] <zaquan> im newbie here
[22:15] <zaquan> what is kopete
[22:15] <tekteen> zaquan: you can use either kopete or pidgin
[22:15] <tekteen> a program
[22:16] <zaquan> can u tell me how to do that
[22:16] <tekteen> K Menu > Internet > kopete
[22:16] <zaquan> do i have to download it
[22:16] <tekteen> no
[22:16] <tekteen> you know what the start menu is?
[22:16] <zaquan> ok i get it
[22:16] <zaquan> thanks
[22:16] <SlimeyPete> fuhreal: mmm, Adept's a bit buggy.
[22:17] <juancho> hola
[22:17] <tekteen> hi
[22:17] <juancho> whats up
[22:18] <fuhreal> Any way to force KDE to remake menu's ? i.e. I just installed eTerm and i wanna get it in the menu
[22:18] <_Angelus_> guyz
[22:18] <Arwen> fuhreal, dcop kicker kicker restart
[22:18] <_Angelus_> somebody would be gentle enough to help me plan a good partition table ?
[22:18] <_Angelus_> fuhreal: just run kbuildsyscoca
[22:18] <Arwen> _Angelus_, sure. What are you looking for?
[22:19] <tekteen> _Angelus_: how much space do you have?
[22:19] <_Angelus_> i have 2 hard discs , a laptop one connected with an adaptor (60GB) and a Maxtor one set as primary (80GB)
[22:19] <_Angelus_> people told me that the laptop one is slow
[22:20] <fuhreal> _Angelus_: whats kbuildsyscoca ?
[22:20] <Arwen> _Angelus_, it would probably be slower
[22:20] <_Angelus_> fuhreal: some program that will make your new icons apear in kmenu :p
[22:20] <fuhreal> !kbuildsyscoca
[22:20] <ubotu> If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[22:21] <_Angelus_> so what would be a good partition table ? :p
[22:21] <_Angelus_> i want most of the space for /home, since i store all big files and torrents there
[22:21] <Arwen> _Angelus_, well, I'd set your entire laptop disk as extra storage
[22:22] <Arwen> set maybe 10GB or so of the primary one for system
[22:22] <Arwen> and the rest as main storage
[22:22] <tekteen> _Angelus_: 10 GB .
[22:22] <tekteen> 10GB / 2GB swap
[22:24] <zaquan> could someone help me how to install flash player in kubuntu
[22:25] <Odd-rationale> zaquan: Have you tried the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[22:25] <zaquan> no
[22:26] <zaquan> i have no idea what is that
[22:26] <Y-Town> zaquan: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664242&highlight=adobe+flash+plug
[22:28] <zaquan> tq
[22:29] <vblanton> anyone know why konqueror (in latest KDE4 packages) defaults to loading websites with embedded text viewer
[22:29] <vblanton> ?
[22:30] <llutz> vblanton:better  ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:30] <vblanton> just did, thanks
[22:30] <Ayabara> I can't find a place to disable tapping on my touchpad in Kubuntu. Do I have to edit xorg.conf to do it?
[22:30] <vblanton> only now did I notice that there was a kubuntu-kde4 channel
[22:31] <olli> exit
[22:31] <olli> quit
[22:31] <olli> lo
[22:32] <vblanton> Ayabara: I would good for that, I remember seeing a nifty how to once by a kubuntu dev
[22:32] <vblanton> *google
[22:32] <eRqzor> everything about k3b features like make a list of files to write just swapping cd ton continue burning queue ?
[22:33] <zaquan> help i still cant install flash player
[22:34] <vblanton> eRqzor: can you please rephrase that in to something easier to understand?
[22:34] <vblanton> zaquan: what have you done?
[22:34] <Ayabara> vblanton: I think it's the maxtaptime option
[22:34] <jor> ola gente
[22:35] <jor> alguen que pueda ayudarme???
[22:35] <zaquan> ive download the flash player but i didnt know how to install it
[22:35] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone tell me how I can change my keyboard layout? thanks....
[22:35] <eRqzor> vblanton: excuse my english, but i'm looking for a feature in k3d to burn many .iso easily
[22:35] <thesaint4444> i go into regional and language settings but cant change anything....
[22:35] <Odd-rationale> thesaint4444: enter admin mode
[22:35] <jor> hellou
[22:35] <jor> alguen quehabla español
[22:35] <jor> spanish
[22:36] <thesaint4444> Odd-rationale: ok, thanks, how?
[22:36] <jor> HELLOU
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> !es | jor
[22:36] <SlimeyPete> !spanish
[22:36] <ubotu> jor: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:36] <zaquan> flash player install help please?
[22:36] <jor> SPEAK SPANISH ???
[22:36] <jor> HELLOU
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> thesaint4444: There is no Admin Mode button on the bottom?
[22:37] <Regital> where do i download video codecs, or how do i find them for kubuntu 7.10?
[22:37] <thesaint4444> Odd-rationale: not that I have seen....
[22:37] <Ayabara> !compiz
[22:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:37] <SlimeyPete> !codecs
[22:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:37] <Regital> SlimeyPete thanks
[22:37] <Odd-rationale> thesaint4444: Is everything greyed out in regional setting?
[22:38] <mkargar> helo all
[22:38] <vblanton> Regital: install the package that contains all media codecs in one shot:
[22:38] <thesaint4444> Odd-rationale: yes....
[22:38] <vblanton> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:38] <vblanton> MP3 playback and decoding, Java runtime environment, Flash plugin, DVD playback, and LAME (to create compressed audio files)
[22:39] <Odd-rationale> thesaint4444: well, i don't know then... :( sorry
[22:40] <Regital> vblanton, it says i have the most updated versions
[22:41] <Regital> hmmh
[22:44] <eRqzor> vblanton: excuse my english, but i'm looking for a feature in k3d to burn many *.iso easily (like a playlist of *.iso)
[22:46] <tekteen> eRqzor: you have an image?
[22:46] <eRqzor> tekteen: i have around 50 iso files to burn
[22:46] <tekteen> ok
[22:46] <thesaint4444> anyone know how I can change my keyboard layout?
[22:46] <mkargar> i installed kubuntu 7.10 64bit on my system.since of selected Kubuntu in grub page,my monitor turning off and Then Give error:''Video mode not Supported''!please help me!
[22:46] <fignew> eRqzor: just make a script
[22:46] <Dresken> Would the live CD work normally if I burn the image on a DVD instead of a CD or will it cause problems?
[22:46] <eRqzor> thesaint4444: k > system setting > regional language > keyboard layout :o
[22:46] <Daisuke-Ido> the more i learn about dcop, the more i wonder how i ever lived without it.
[22:47] <tekteen> eRqzor: is it the same cd to burn a thousand times?
[22:47] <eRqzor> Dresken: nop, be sure to burning as image
[22:47] <Dresken> Yeah I did burn the image on a DVD
[22:47] <eRqzor> tekteen: nop it would be too easy :D
[22:48] <thesaint4444> eRqzor: nope that doesnt work....
[22:49] <eRqzor> thesaint4444: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[22:49] <mkargar> Tacit,my monitor is Samsung LCD Monitor(SyncMaster 153v)
[22:50] <eRqzor> tekteen: the problem is twiced : its iso file to burn & its not the same
[22:51] <thesaint4444> eRqzor: ok, I added the locales... and then what? thanks.
[22:52] <eRqzor> thesaint4444: k > system setting > regional language > keyboard layout :o
[22:52] <thesaint4444> eRqzor: no, still doesn't work...
[22:53] <eRqzor> thesaint4444: restart kde :o after that i can't help you :D
[22:55] <thesaint4444> eRqzor: got it ....    'apt-get install --reinstall xkb-data' did the trick.. thanks.
[22:55] <eRqzor> thesaint4444: thanks for the trick :D
[22:57] <thesaint4444> eRqzor: no probs mate... thanks. -bye...
[23:01] <fuhreal> If i ran apt-get install eterm-themes .. where did they install too ?
[23:02] <llutz> fuhreal: "dpkg -L eterm-themes" will tell you
[23:02] <fuhreal> ahhh ty
[23:02] <fuhreal> dpkg List "appname"
[23:02] <fuhreal> cool
[23:20] <ryjek> guys, what do I write to fstab to mount a fat usb hdd ?
[23:21] <tekteen> !fstab
[23:21] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:23] <Biggles> hey how do i make something start on start-up?
[23:23] <tekteen> Biggles: when you login?
[23:23] <Biggles> ya
[23:24] <stdin> !autostart
[23:24] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[23:24] <Jucato> You can also leave the program running when you logout. it will be restarted when you log back in
[23:24] <ryjek> erm, question again, lost connection
[23:30] <asobi> anyone use the badongo joiner application?
[23:31] <Biggles> ok so how exactly do i do that? lol
[23:32] <Biggles> im new so i dont understand much :P
[23:32] <mkargar_> all friends!please help me!
[23:33] <Biggles> i wanna make kwifimanager start when I log in
[23:33] <tekteen> mkargar_: help with what
[23:33] <Jucato> [07:22] <Jucato> You can also leave the program running when you logout. it will be restarted when you log back in
[23:34] <mkargar_>  installed kubuntu 7.10 64bit on my system.since of selected Kubuntu in grub page,my monitor turning off and Then Give error:''Video mode not Supported''!please help me!
[23:34] <Biggles> OHHH ;)
[23:34] <Biggles> lol
[23:34] <mkargar_> Tacit,my monitor is Samsung LCD Monitor(SyncMaster 153v)
[23:35] <Biggles> how can I hide it? like I dont want it to show up in my toolbar but I dont wanna close it... like I want to minimize it to the lil icon in the system trey menu
[23:36] <asobi> click icon in tray
[23:36] <Jucato> if it has an icon in the system tray, when you close the window, it shouldn't exit/quit but just minimize to the tray
[23:36] <Jucato> or as asobi said, click on the icon in the tray
[23:36] <asobi> really?
[23:36] <asobi> when i do that with xchat, it quits
[23:37] <Jucato> (xchat isn't a KDE app...)
[23:37] <asobi> ah
[23:37] <mkargar_> tacit,since of selected kubuntu,Splasboot not work!
[23:39] <Regital> what should i do to play .ogg videos?
[23:40] <^u^> Regital, install vlc
[23:41] <aib> is anyone running KDE 4 on Kubuntu?
[23:41] <Regital> ^u^, is there a commant line for that? if so, could you give it to me?
[23:41] <^u^> !vlc
[23:41] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[23:42] <aib> I installed the packages but the packager didn't ship libQtDbus.so.4. rather, he linked against the one in /usr/lib (the kde4 packages are all in /usr/local/lib) and thus there is a missing symbol. the packager expected the users system to be identical
[23:42] <jon_> hey sup everybody
[23:43] <Jucato> aib: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[23:44] <^u^> !kde4 | Jucato
[23:44] <ubotu> Jucato: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:44] <Jucato> ^u^: hm?
[23:44] <Jucato> Regital: I think OGG should already be supported by default
[23:44] <aib> thanks
[23:45] <^u^> Jucato, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:45] <Jucato> ^u^: I'm not asking about KDE4.
[23:45] <^u^> apologies Jucato
[23:46] <Regital> Jucato, well it doesnt matter.. i think the file is corrupted. it doesnt work with vlc either
[23:46] <Regital> just yellow/pink background
[23:47] <Regital> sound works just fine tho
[23:48] <^u^> Regital, vlc plays ogg vid fine so maybe it is the file
[23:48] <Regital> yeah
[23:49] <Regital> but what are the odds of downloading 2 completely different videos and neither one works
[23:49] <^u^> not good
[23:49] <Regital> ?
[23:50] <Dr_willis> depends on where the videos are comming from
[23:51] <^u^> Regital, where's the file from - I'll give it a run
[23:52] <Regital> ehh... its a movie from piratebay...
[23:52] <Jucato> ahem...
[23:52] <Regital> ill delete it anyway
[23:53] <^u^> heheh
[23:53] <Regital> yeah =p
[23:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:57] <Dr_willis> ive seen movies lately that have some really... odd... codecs. :)
[23:58] <fuhreal> is there a default keystroke for CTRL+ALT+E ?
[23:58] <flake> what's a good c64 emulator, i have vice installed in synaptic but i cant find it or run it apparently
[23:58] <Dr_willis> flake:  check the package docs, you need to get the proper roms for it. that are not included by default.
[23:58] <Dr_willis> for legal reasons.
[23:58] <Dr_willis> Or rebuild vice from source for the latest version. Its a little old in the repos
[23:58] <flake> ah
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Yep - i was annoyed that other disrtos include the stuff for vice that ubuntu decided not to include.
[23:59] <Dr_willis> but they are taking the legal-safe-road.
[23:59] <flake> I can respect that
[23:59] <Dr_willis> So its hard to really blame ubuntu for being  parnoid. :)
[23:59] <Dr_willis> but i MUST play my wavy navy!