[02:24] <walter> Can I retrieve any useful bug info from an un-bootable partition trashed during upgrade?
[02:24] <walter> Last night my amd_64 hardy tried to install 300+ updates (guess I'd been slacking) and when I went to check progress it was hung (mouse movement on black screen but nothing else). Now it won't boot but I can access the partition from Live CD to recover my home dir. Is there anything that would be useful for a bug before I whack the partition?
[02:28] <RAOF> walter: Sounds like you've been hit by the "libc breaks everything" bug.  Support in #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:30] <walter> Thanks, figured I wasn't the first. I'll try over there. Just wanted to make sure it was known :-).
[02:30] <RAOF> walter: In fact, the /topic for #ubuntu+1 contians a link to how to fix :)
[02:31] <walter> Even better :-) Gotta be better than starting from scratch. Thanks again!
[03:31] <techno_freak> hola!
[05:12] <techno_freak> what should i do with a bug on gaim in Feisty? :s Ask him up upgrade to Gutsy and check Pidgin?
[08:01] <hggdh> morning all
[08:02] <hggdh> anybody having problems with GDM on last set of updates to Hardy?
[11:23] <heno> pedro_: could you look at bug 201466 when you have a chance? just see if there is more info I could supply
[11:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201466 in gdm "gdm_slave_xioerror_handler error in ubuntu hardy heron Alpha 6" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201466
[11:24] <pedro_> heno: looking
[11:24] <pedro_> mmm that's the same error i had a couple of weeks ago
[11:25] <heno> pedro_: it happens here every 2-3 days for the past weekish
[11:26] <pedro_> yeah intel card right?
[11:27] <heno> pedro_: yes. I guess I should add lspci
[11:27] <pedro_> mm yeah, I've reported it a month ago or so, I've solved it by changing the AccelMethod in xorg.conf
[11:27] <pedro_> for being able to work at least
[11:28] <pedro_> Option          "AccelMethod"   "XAA"
[11:28] <pedro_> that workaround works for me
[11:28] <pedro_> it's reported as a xorg issue, let me grab the number
[11:29] <heno> thanks
[11:29] <pedro_> sourcercito: congrats!
[11:29] <heno> This happens with all desktop effects turned off though, FYI
[11:29] <sourcercito> pedro_, thanks
[11:29] <sourcercito> about what?
[11:29] <pedro_> heno: yep same happens to me
[11:30] <heno> ok
[11:30] <pedro_> haha sourcercito about your score on the hug day, did you look at the page?
[11:30] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080313
[11:31] <sourcercito> woohoo, no, i just open my little eyes, and turn on the computer, not the browser yet though ;)
[11:31] <pedro_> bug 140554
[11:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140554 in xorg "X crashes on RV370 with firefox + gnash visiting certain urls (no desktop effects)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140554
[11:31] <pedro_> they're requesting logs about the crash
[11:32] <pedro_> sadly it doesn't show me any decent trace about it :-(
[11:32] <pedro_> so can't update the bug, but it's still happening
[11:33] <heno> mine is not related to gnash though
[11:34] <heno> what gnome bits are affected when you drag an image from the desktop to Gimp?
[11:34] <pedro_> mine either, when i just do some random things with a web browser it crashed the X session
[11:34] <heno> because that seemed to trigger it
[11:35] <heno> pedro_: did you get returned to GDM?
[11:35] <heno> I just get a blank screen
[11:35] <pedro_> noup i have to turn off the computer
[11:35] <pedro_> yeah same thing
[11:35] <heno> ok, same thing
[11:36] <pedro_> even if i log in trough ssh and kill gdm and X
[11:36] <pedro_> i can't get gdm running  again
[11:36] <hggdh> pedro_: running latest kernel?
[11:36] <pedro_> hggdh: you did it!
[11:36] <hggdh> :-)
[11:37] <pedro_> hggdh: no, we're just talking about a gdm+xorg intel related crasher
[11:37] <hggdh> pedro_: mine is a ATI
[11:37] <Iulian> Hey
[11:37] <hggdh> got a series of oops in the driver
[11:37] <pedro_> hello Iulian
[11:37] <pedro_> ju ju
[11:37] <hggdh> hello Iulian
[11:38] <hggdh> bad mojo
[11:38] <Iulian> Hiya pedro_, hggdh
[11:38] <pedro_> well latest kernel doesn't work with my wireless card
[11:38]  * pedro_ kicks atheros
[11:38] <pedro_> hello seb128!
[11:39] <sourcercito> wooohooo
[11:39] <seb128> hey pedro_
[11:39] <Iulian> Woahh
[11:39] <Iulian> Hi there seb128
[11:39] <sourcercito> since about 5 kernels ago, i can't boot, because of my wireless card driver ;D
[11:39]  * sourcercito waves
[11:39] <pedro_> it hangs or what?
[11:39] <seb128> hi Iulian
[11:40] <hggdh> hum. I just booted into 2.6.24-12.22... I do not understand. I *do* have X now
[11:40] <pedro_> yay greasemonkey is broken with latest firefox
[11:40] <pedro_> time to switch to epiphany
[11:41] <hggdh> :-) did it a loong time ago ;-)
[11:41] <pedro_> yeah me too, i'm an epiphany user, but it wasn't working too well for me so yeah firefox for a couple of weeks
[11:42] <sourcercito> pedro_, just hangs in my machine, a hard freeze without info ;)
[11:42] <sourcercito> damn b43legacy
[11:42] <hggdh> mine would simply hard-reset into a new boot
[11:42] <pedro_> and i learn to hate the "location bar"
[11:42] <pedro_> what a intrusive thing
[11:44] <heno> pedro_: under which section of xorg.conf did you add Option  "AccelMethod"   "XAA"? ServerLayout?
[11:44] <pedro_> heno: under the Device section
[11:45] <heno> ok, cool
[11:47] <hggdh> pedro_: insteresting -- all I did was put back a saved version of xorg.conf (and, of course, I forgot to save the original one). Now I can boot nicely with X/GDM (but right now configured to use KDM-KDE4)
[11:47] <pedro_> hahaha!
[11:47] <pedro_> nice nice
[11:48] <hggdh> also, while I was having the issue, I could get to X by replacing the manager from GDM to KDM-KDE4...
[11:48] <hggdh> using GDM I would be the hard-resets
[11:49] <pedro_> anything interesting on the gdm logs?
[11:51] <hggdh> no, not that I can see... most of the time I would get a hard reset; once I got a loop on fglrx causing oops in kernel mode
[11:52] <hggdh> no, there *are* strange thingies in the GDM log
[11:54] <hggdh> libhal.c 3483 : Error unsubscribing to signals, error=Connection is closed
[11:54] <hggdh> process 10723: arguments to dbus_connection_get_dispatch_status() were incorrect, assertion "connection != NULL" failed in file dbus-connection.c line 4081.
[11:54] <hggdh> This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
[11:54] <hggdh> xinit:  connection to X server lost.
[11:55] <hggdh> this is the last boot with GDM. I then rebooted in recovery mode, and dpkg-reconfigured  to use kdm-kde4
[11:55] <hggdh> I think this is the one that I kept getting oops on fglrx
[12:27] <hggdh> yay... we are starting to get bugs on fglrx...
[13:02] <secretlondon> my system keeps freezing but sys req doesn't seem to work.
[13:03] <secretlondon> I'm not sure submitting a bug with no info is particularly helpful..
[13:04] <mok0> How do you make use of the crash_report that is attached to some bugs?
[13:19] <bddebian> Boo
[13:22] <secretlondon> hi
[13:24] <bddebian> Hello secretlondon
[13:29] <elmargol> don't we have xpcom in hardy?
[14:00] <hggdh> mok0: usually you will have a series of attachments (not one single crash report). If you have one single crash report attached, this is probably not useful...
[14:01] <hggdh> mok0: what you usually look for are the stacktraces, and the dependencies
[15:49] <Gnine> still having issues fetching updates from us.archives.ubuntu.com on broken hardy
[16:02] <afflux> is there a way to quickly mark a set of bugs (and their duplicates) as a duplicate of a different one?
[16:02] <afflux> and don't tell me "tabs" ;)
[16:02] <bdmurray> afflux: using python-launchpad-bugs it is fairly trivial
[16:03] <afflux> bdmurray: oh, didn't you post something to the ML or the wiki or something?
[16:04] <bdmurray> I wrote something up about it using the e-mail interface too
[16:05] <afflux> ah, okay. I'll check the python module
[16:05] <bdmurray> That was more for marking as a duplicate than changing duplicates
[16:06] <bdmurray> afflux: I could show you an example script if you are interested
[16:07] <afflux> bdmurray: I just found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/Bug, I'll read it first ;)
[16:07] <bdmurray> hmm, I think you could write something smarter than what I have too
[16:09] <bdmurray> I'd be interested to see what you come up with as we've added an examples directory to the bzr branch of python-launchpad-bugs and I think a script like this would be a good example
[16:11] <afflux> alright
[16:29] <telexicon> How is the 'm' key only responding half of the time within an xnest instance not a bug?
[16:30] <james_w> telexicon: what is the bug number?
[16:30] <telexicon> james_w, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/201729
[16:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201729 in gdm "Pressing 'm' key only works half of the time." [Low,Invalid]
[16:33] <afflux> bdmurray: can I change the duplicate status just by changing the duplicate_of attribute of a Bug object and commiting afterwards?
[16:34] <bdmurray> afflux: I think you want set_duplicate, I'm double checking now
[16:34] <james_w> telexicon: you may have got the wrong package, I'm not sure though. I do think it is probably a bug though.
[16:35] <telexicon> james_w, gdmflexiserver is part of the gdm package i thought
[16:35] <bdmurray> telexicon: your bug could use some additional information like the release that you noticed it on and the package version
[16:36] <telexicon> bdmurray, ok thats fair, i wasnt sure what information to add, so i can do that
[16:36] <thekorn> afflux, b.duplicate_of = 123456; b.commit()
[16:36] <afflux> thekorn: right, thank you
[16:36] <bdmurray> How did you submit the bug?  I thought there were instructions for adding that information.
[16:37] <telexicon> bdmurray, it just asked for a title and description
[16:38] <telexicon> bdmurray, i just went to the ubuntu page in launchpad and clicked, 'report a bug'
[16:38] <bdmurray> Below the description box there should be some instructions about things to include.
[16:39] <telexicon> ok ill fix it
[16:40] <afflux> Bug = Connector.ConnectBug(); Bug.authentication="cookies.txt"; print Bug(197712).duplicates --- this returnes an empty set for me, while bug 197712 has four duplicates. What am I doing wrong?
[16:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197712 in screenlets "ACPIBatteryScreenlet.py crashed with OSError in __create_tempfile()" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197712
[16:40] <afflux> haha
[16:40] <afflux> I'm not reloading the page in firefox, that's wrong :)
[16:43] <bdmurray> telexicon: it'd be interesting to know that happens if you just run Xnest or Xephyr too
[16:43] <bdmurray> depending on which you have installed.
[16:48] <bdmurray> afflux: so it worked then?
[16:49] <afflux> bdmurray: I think I've a quite good solution for recursivly finding all the duplicates, I'll still need re-mark them
[16:50] <bdmurray> You may have though of this already but the order of operations be important, first do all the duplicates and the master if necessary.
[16:51] <afflux> bdmurray: http://pastebin.ca/942576
[16:52] <afflux> the start_list is taken from bughelper
[16:53] <afflux> bdmurray: this is what I get: http://pastebin.ca/942578
[16:55] <afflux> Is it save to change the dups in that order, or should I start from the "last level"?
[16:57] <bdmurray> What I was trying to say was if you have bugs 5 4 3 and they are dups of 2 but you want them to be dups of 1.  You have to change 5 4 3 and then 2.  You can't make 2 a dup of a bug when it has duplicates.
[16:57] <afflux> ah, okay
[17:26] <afflux> bdmurray: I've used http://pastebin.ca/942615, and it worked quite well. If you like it, feel free to use it as an example
[17:26] <afflux> coffee time!
[17:27] <bdmurray> Great!  I'm curious about the start_list when you get back.
[17:41] <afflux> bdmurray: back
[17:42] <afflux> the start_list was a set of bugs I extracted manually from bughelper -d --cookie=cookies.txt -A -T screenlets '__create_tempfile()' "propably dup of bug 160266" -p screenlets
[17:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 160266 in screenlets "Files in /tmp not user-specific" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160266
[17:45] <bdmurray> afflux: Is it still an issue?
[17:45] <afflux> bdmurray: you mean 160266? According to the list of duplicates, yes
[17:47] <bdmurray> I pulled the latest version it crashed with from one of the duplicates and put it in the description
[17:48] <bdmurray> I think writing and submitting a clue file for this might be useful since we could still get crash reports about it.
[17:48] <afflux> that would be another "first time work" from me today :)
[17:49] <bdmurray> cool!
[17:49] <afflux> bdmurray: does bughelper use regex?
[17:49] <secretlondon> yay!
[17:50] <afflux> hey secretlondon
[17:51] <bdmurray> afflux: Do you mean can you use regex in clue files or something else?
[17:51] <afflux> in clue files
[17:52] <bdmurray> You can use "and" and "or"s in clue files
[17:53] <bdmurray> the linux-meta clue file has some decent examples
[17:53] <afflux> okay, thanks
[17:55] <thekorn> afflux, you can use regex in cluefiles, .bughelper/packages/bughelper.info has an example
[17:56] <bdmurray> thekorn: great
[17:56] <bdmurray> One thing I was thinking about was having 'bugxml -v' run before someone commits
[17:56] <thekorn> big note to self: This needs to be DOCUMENTED!
[17:58] <bdmurray> Are the accessible fields documented anywhere besides bug 109533?
[17:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109533 in bughelper "search in given field has to be fixed and generalized" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109533
[18:00] <thekorn> bdmurray, you should be able to access every attribute of an bug object
[18:00] <thekorn> though i'm not sure, have not looked at bughelper for ages
[18:01]  * secretlondon has never used it
[18:01] <bdmurray> I haven't looked it at much myself either, but I've working a little more on clue files recently.
[18:12] <afflux> bdmurray, thekorn: is there a way to enable attachment searching in the clue files?
[18:13] <bdmurray> afflux: you do that just by using -A it'll then search the bug's attachments for your clue
[18:13] <thekorn> afflux, yes you can search in the text of attachement, i think
[18:13] <afflux> ah, right. I've a clue file now which works when -A is used
[18:13] <thekorn> searching for filenames is also possible but difficult
[18:14] <afflux> oh, phone
[18:25] <bdmurray> thekorn: I updated the debian/changelog in python-launchpad-bugs.  I've recently heard about debcommit which might make changelog and commit messages easier but I haven't played with it yet.
[18:27] <afflux> bdmurray: do you think that it would be more useful to add a bugpattern for screenlets to ~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns than adding a cluefile to bughelper-data?
[18:27] <thekorn> bdmurray, thanks. sorry, updating the changelog is one thing I always forget
[18:27] <bdmurray> I'm under the impression that debcommit should help
[18:28] <thekorn> right
[18:34] <bdmurray> afflux: probably, I haven't yet used the bugpatterns.  Thinking about it I think bugpatterns are useful for future bug reports and bughelper is useful for existing bug reports.
[18:34] <afflux> okay
[18:34] <afflux> I uploaded the bughelper clue
[18:34] <bdmurray> So a carefully crafted pattern seems best in this case.
[18:40] <secretlondon> bah the 5 a day applet doesn't work with epiphany
[18:50] <bdmurray> afflux: I made the screenlet clue a little more verbose and added a don't list so bug 160266 doesn't show up.
[18:51] <afflux> bdmurray: ah, right, thanks!
[18:52] <bdmurray> I like have the clickable link to the bug in the clue also
[18:52] <bdmurray> but that might just be me
[18:55] <thekorn> secretlondon, it should work
[18:55] <thekorn> I tested it recently
[18:56] <secretlondon> thekorn: you can't drag tabs, or so it seems
[18:56] <thekorn> secretlondon, right, you have to drag the favicon in the address-field
[18:56] <secretlondon> I'm installing epiphany-extensions to see if that helps
[18:57] <secretlondon> thekorn: ah, thanks! I'll try that
[18:57] <secretlondon> i'm seeing if firefox is the cause of my system freezes by running epiphany. sys req doesn't work so at a bit of a loss
[18:58] <askand> Where do I report gutsybugs?
[18:58] <secretlondon> launchpad
[18:58] <secretlondon> thekorn: it worked :)
[18:59] <thekorn> \o/
[19:29] <bdmurray> thekorn: do you think we should make a Hardy+1 branch that we can both commit too?
[19:29] <bdmurray> or rather all bughelper-devs
[19:35] <thekorn> bdmurray, yes, sure
[19:36]  * afflux hits 5-a-day-stats
[19:36] <afflux> something is wrong with my log file again
[19:41] <thekorn> yuhu! Karma calculation in LP rockz, I added a few branches to bugreports and earned 12000 Karma points, that's much better than getting some 10 points for closing a bug ;)
[19:42] <afflux> huh
[19:42] <afflux> I registered a project lately
[19:43] <afflux> oh, earned ~3000
[19:44] <secretlondon> bah I need to learn bzr and become a karma magnet ;)
[19:45] <afflux> hehe
[19:46] <thekorn> heh
[19:50] <bdmurray> calc: have you seen bug 202250 yet?
[19:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 202250 in openoffice.org "splash and about dialog reports version 2.3 where as it is 2.4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202250
[19:53] <crimsun> hmm.
[19:53] <crimsun> we're missing a few critical changesets for drivers/ssb/ that's hosing b43 users on open APs
[19:55] <secretlondon> :(
[19:55] <crimsun> (this is 197959)
[19:56] <secretlondon> bug #197957
[19:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197957 in alsa-plugins "Include a libasound2-plugins-extra package for a52, jack, maemo" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197957
[19:56] <secretlondon> bug #197959
[19:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197959 in linux "[Hardy]Recent kernel update to 2.6.24-11 breaks b43 (with bcm4312)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197959
[19:59] <thekorn> bdmurray, I'm developing a hugday-applet for gnome (like the 5-a-day-applet) to automatically mark the bugs one worked on,
[19:59] <thekorn> bdmurray, can I upload it to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/
[19:59] <thekorn> or should i create a new project
[19:59] <calc> bdmurray: gar not yet i merged one of those already today
[20:00] <calc> bdmurray: er duplicated i meant
[20:00]  * calc wishes people would stop filing duplicate bugs
[20:01] <bdmurray> calc: ah the master is bug 199193?
[20:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199193 in openoffice.org "[Ubuntu] [hardy] openoffice splash shows incorrect version in hardy alpha 5/6" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199193
[20:03] <bdmurray> thekorn: ubuntu-bugcontrol is a team right?  so I'd think it would need to be a new project.
[20:05] <bdmurray> But have it "registered" by the bugcontrol team
[20:05] <thekorn> bdmurray, ah ok, lets try
[20:12] <calc> bdmurray: yea
[20:12] <calc> bdmurray: it will be fixed in the next upload, i have the correct splashes now from Ken
[20:12] <thekorn> bdmurray, I will create a new/independed project, because I dont want to spam people in bugcontrol with bug-reports etc.
[20:13] <calc> bdmurray: i'm likely to do an upload by end of next week, i am still going through OOo bugs doing triage
[20:13] <calc> bdmurray: done ~ 550 bugs so far
[20:15] <bdmurray> thekorn: if you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ you'll see this qa-regression-testing project
[20:16] <bdmurray> thekorn: the master branch of that is registered to the bugcontrol team but we get no mail about that project
[20:17] <bdmurray> because on the project page ubuntu-bugcontrol is not listed a Bug contact
[20:17] <thekorn> bdmurray, ah, ok, so I will create a new project and link my main brnach with -bugcontrol
[20:18] <bdmurray> Right, that way anybody in bug control can commit changes to your code
[20:29] <calc> is there a way to test if my insert key is working, some x command line tool or something?
[20:29] <calc> i can't replicate a bug on my laptop (i386) but can on my desktop (amd64) and can't tell if my laptop insert key is working
[20:32] <crimsun> calc: e.g., xev?
[20:33] <calc> crimsun: thanks :)
[20:34] <calc> crimsun: are you running hardy on i386?
[20:34] <crimsun> yes
[20:34] <calc> it appears my insert key works
[20:34] <calc> crimsun: can you see if hitting insert in ooo writer changes it from insert mode to overwrite mode
[20:34] <calc> in the bottom center it normally says "INSRT" for me
[20:35] <calc> it changes to something like overwrite on amd64 but doesn't for i386 (for me) when i hit the insert key
[20:35] <crimsun> works fine here.
[20:36] <calc> hmm, maybe i need to reboot !?
[20:36] <calc> very weird
[20:36] <calc> xev showed the insert key was working afaict
[22:17]  * secretlondon expects that her 5 a day doesn't include submitting bugs ;)
[22:18] <bdmurray> It actually subtracts from your 5.
[22:18] <secretlondon> thought so - bah!
[22:53] <secretlondon> I've finished submitting bugs so I can try and make up my tally now..
[23:04] <ogasawara> tjaalton: can you confirm if bug 197929 is still an issue for you after the latest updates?
[23:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197929
[23:15] <secretlondon> where do we file bugs on Ubuntu UME Midbowser?
[23:20] <greg-g> heh, I search google for Ubuntu UME midbowser and I get the bug you are probably talking about, and that is it
[23:22] <bdmurray> secretlondon: probably the midbrowser package
[23:22] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midbrowser/+bugs
[23:22] <secretlondon> bdmurray: thanks