[09:13] <dholbach> good morning
[10:55] <asac> davidm: i read in backlog that you will work a bit on po2xpi over weekend?
[10:56] <asac> davidm: would be great it have it on monday, because the launchpad export side is ready and we want to start a more or large scale test before they cherry-pick it to production
[13:31] <davidm> asac, I'm going to have a look at it. See if I can get something working
[13:32] <asac> great
[13:32] <davidm> asac, have you tested the mid-browser with the jave plugin?
[13:32] <asac> jave? java you mean?
[13:33] <asac> which java plugin is of concern here?
[13:33] <asac> (we have about 4 in the archive iirc)
[13:34] <davidm> icedtea
[13:35] <davidm> Yea Java sorry typo
[13:35] <davidm> Unless there is one you know to work correctly.
[13:37] <asac> davidm: works here
[13:37] <asac> any special usecases/applets you are worried about?
[13:39] <davidm> Just heard about a possible issue from Intel, so I thought I'd ask if you knew of any issues before I start tracking this down.
[13:39] <davidm> Nothing to get excited about yet. :-)
[13:39] <asac> except that its currently not installed automatically if you install the plugin package it works well here.
[13:40] <asac> it isn't installed by default because we thought we'd go for xulrunner 1.9. its a bit of tedious though. apparently we cannot use xulrunner-1.9 so we basically have two options now:
[13:40] <asac> special xulrunner 1.9 for mobile
[13:40] <asac> or providing the complete sdk out of the midbrowser build
[13:41] <asac> we should file a beta milestone bug about icedtea not getting installed so this will be fixed next week
[13:41] <davidm> which would you recommend, because we do have to have this working very soon
[13:41] <asac> yes i know
[13:41] <asac> i think we should try to get midbrowser provide the sdk
[13:42] <asac> i will vouch for the code duplication we get here (which was a blocker for moving this to main imo)
[13:44] <davidm> OK, what are the correct next steps?
[13:45] <asac> i currently getting latest midbroser from git
[13:45] <asac> and see if the sdk builds fine
[13:46] <davidm> asac, thanks
[13:47] <asac> will let you know in an hour or so
[13:48] <asac> davidm: which mobile core applications do currently use a gecko rendering engine?
[13:48] <asac> the home screen, right? anything else?
[13:49] <davidm> the home screen, yes, the rest, lets ask Mithrandir 
[13:51] <Mithrandir> just the home screen and midbrowser, I think.
[14:06] <lool> Perhaps liferea as well
[14:07] <lool> Yeah, liferea is pulled by ubuntu-mobile and uses xulrunner
[14:07] <lool> asac: ^
[14:08] <asac> ok
[14:08] <asac> if the sdk provided by midbrowser we should be able to use that quite easily
[14:08] <asac> the -dev package has to conflict the xul one of course to achieve this
[14:10] <lool> asac: I didn't understand why we can't use xulrunner for midbrowser/icedtea?
[14:11] <asac> i didn't say that we can't use xulrunner for building icedtea
[14:11] <asac> problem is that intel is patching xulrunner to get quick fixes for features they need
[14:12] <asac> i have no strong argument against that given the pressure on this
[14:12] <asac> anyway ... we cannot use those patches and build firefox on top of it
[14:12] <lool> asac: Could we merge their patches?
[14:12] <asac> (trademark issues)
[14:12] <lool> asac: Otherwise, we could push xulrunner in the ppa
[14:12] <asac> lool: the patches are far tooo hacky
[14:12] <asac> lool: maintenance is too hard.
[14:12] <asac> we don't even have patches ... its all just in the main dev tree
[14:12] <lool> Well that's not ok
[14:13] <asac> i tried to hold them back from doing that
[14:13] <asac> but whatever i said, two weeks later they appear to get pressure from inside intel and just do it
[14:13] <asac> just blind guessing. 
[14:13] <lool> I see
[14:13] <asac> imo its ok to use midbrowser as an sdk
[14:14] <asac> as long as we get to the point where the patches against midbrowser xulrunner are good enough to be included in the real xulrunner
[14:15] <asac> but i just don't have the time to redo the fixes in a proper fashion
[14:15] <asac> s/fixes/hacks/
[14:27] <asac> lool: you use midbrowser 0.3 from ppa right?
[14:27] <asac> lool: is the reload toolbar icon smaller than the others
[14:28] <asac> or is that a regression in latest git?
[15:20] <asac> lool: davidm: ok, looks like the sdk is properly build - except for the .pc files, which we would need to integrated into the browser/installer directory (if we want to do htis upstream) ... or just ship them from debian/
[15:20] <asac> so without testing it appears to be an option
[15:50] <GrueMaster> FYI:  Skye 2.0 with video chat released today.  
[16:59] <lool> asac: Could you /c
[17:02] <asac> lool: ?
[17:02] <asac> i am about to leave
[17:07] <dholbach> who should I assign bluetooth sponsorings bugs to?
[18:20] <vignatti> hi guys
[18:20] <vignatti> I'm facing a strange noise here in my macbook
[18:20] <vignatti> it's kind a beep which certainly _doesn't_ comes from the speaker
[18:21] <vignatti> everty time I put a cd in its drive the noise disappears
[18:22] <vignatti> so I saw in apple forum that whenever some components will be turned off is normal to hear some noise
[18:22] <vignatti> unfortunately I'm hearing it all the time (when no cd in is the drive)
[18:23] <vignatti> so I remembered that I recently gutsy updated the kernel version
[18:24] <vignatti> so, it could be possible that ubuntu is doing something to turn some components off all the time that can be causing that crap noise?
[20:15] <GrueMaster> vignatti:  This forum is mainly for a special flavor of Ubuntu for mobile internet devices, like the Samsung Q1 Ultra.  You should ask on #ubuntu to see if someone there knows the answer, as you are probably running the desktop edition, not something designed for tablets and small systems.
[20:37] <vignatti> GrueMaster: okay. Thank you man.
[21:55] <slytherin> anyone working on updating bluez-* packages? I can take up bluez-gnome.
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