=== mboman_ is now known as mboman === bspencer_ is now known as bspencer [09:13] good morning === cpro1 is now known as cprov [10:55] davidm: i read in backlog that you will work a bit on po2xpi over weekend? [10:56] davidm: would be great it have it on monday, because the launchpad export side is ready and we want to start a more or large scale test before they cherry-pick it to production [13:31] asac, I'm going to have a look at it. See if I can get something working [13:32] great [13:32] asac, have you tested the mid-browser with the jave plugin? [13:32] jave? java you mean? [13:33] which java plugin is of concern here? [13:33] (we have about 4 in the archive iirc) [13:34] icedtea [13:35] Yea Java sorry typo [13:35] Unless there is one you know to work correctly. [13:37] davidm: works here [13:37] any special usecases/applets you are worried about? [13:39] Just heard about a possible issue from Intel, so I thought I'd ask if you knew of any issues before I start tracking this down. [13:39] Nothing to get excited about yet. :-) [13:39] except that its currently not installed automatically if you install the plugin package it works well here. [13:40] it isn't installed by default because we thought we'd go for xulrunner 1.9. its a bit of tedious though. apparently we cannot use xulrunner-1.9 so we basically have two options now: [13:40] special xulrunner 1.9 for mobile [13:40] or providing the complete sdk out of the midbrowser build [13:41] we should file a beta milestone bug about icedtea not getting installed so this will be fixed next week [13:41] which would you recommend, because we do have to have this working very soon [13:41] yes i know [13:41] i think we should try to get midbrowser provide the sdk [13:42] i will vouch for the code duplication we get here (which was a blocker for moving this to main imo) [13:44] OK, what are the correct next steps? [13:45] i currently getting latest midbroser from git [13:45] and see if the sdk builds fine [13:46] asac, thanks [13:47] will let you know in an hour or so [13:48] davidm: which mobile core applications do currently use a gecko rendering engine? [13:48] the home screen, right? anything else? [13:49] the home screen, yes, the rest, lets ask Mithrandir [13:51] just the home screen and midbrowser, I think. [14:06] Perhaps liferea as well [14:07] Yeah, liferea is pulled by ubuntu-mobile and uses xulrunner [14:07] asac: ^ [14:08] ok [14:08] if the sdk provided by midbrowser we should be able to use that quite easily [14:08] the -dev package has to conflict the xul one of course to achieve this [14:10] asac: I didn't understand why we can't use xulrunner for midbrowser/icedtea? [14:11] i didn't say that we can't use xulrunner for building icedtea [14:11] problem is that intel is patching xulrunner to get quick fixes for features they need [14:12] i have no strong argument against that given the pressure on this [14:12] anyway ... we cannot use those patches and build firefox on top of it [14:12] asac: Could we merge their patches? [14:12] (trademark issues) [14:12] asac: Otherwise, we could push xulrunner in the ppa [14:12] lool: the patches are far tooo hacky [14:12] lool: maintenance is too hard. [14:12] we don't even have patches ... its all just in the main dev tree [14:12] Well that's not ok [14:13] i tried to hold them back from doing that [14:13] but whatever i said, two weeks later they appear to get pressure from inside intel and just do it [14:13] just blind guessing. [14:13] I see [14:13] imo its ok to use midbrowser as an sdk [14:14] as long as we get to the point where the patches against midbrowser xulrunner are good enough to be included in the real xulrunner [14:15] but i just don't have the time to redo the fixes in a proper fashion [14:15] s/fixes/hacks/ [14:27] lool: you use midbrowser 0.3 from ppa right? [14:27] lool: is the reload toolbar icon smaller than the others [14:28] or is that a regression in latest git? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:20] lool: davidm: ok, looks like the sdk is properly build - except for the .pc files, which we would need to integrated into the browser/installer directory (if we want to do htis upstream) ... or just ship them from debian/ [15:20] so without testing it appears to be an option [15:50] FYI: Skye 2.0 with video chat released today. === matt_c_ is now known as matt_c [16:59] asac: Could you /c [17:02] lool: ? [17:02] i am about to leave [17:07] who should I assign bluetooth sponsorings bugs to? [18:20] hi guys [18:20] I'm facing a strange noise here in my macbook [18:20] it's kind a beep which certainly _doesn't_ comes from the speaker [18:21] everty time I put a cd in its drive the noise disappears [18:22] so I saw in apple forum that whenever some components will be turned off is normal to hear some noise [18:22] unfortunately I'm hearing it all the time (when no cd in is the drive) [18:23] so I remembered that I recently gutsy updated the kernel version [18:24] so, it could be possible that ubuntu is doing something to turn some components off all the time that can be causing that crap noise? === asac_ is now known as asac [20:15] vignatti: This forum is mainly for a special flavor of Ubuntu for mobile internet devices, like the Samsung Q1 Ultra. You should ask on #ubuntu to see if someone there knows the answer, as you are probably running the desktop edition, not something designed for tablets and small systems. [20:37] GrueMaster: okay. Thank you man. [21:55] anyone working on updating bluez-* packages? I can take up bluez-gnome. [22:21] _ === rustyl is now known as rustyl_ [22:21] ls