[00:00] it says db has new schema than expected when i start the frontend [00:00] newer?? [00:00] i did an update at one point so i think my db backup was alpha 3 [00:00] oh [00:00] umm not sure how to deal with that [00:00] can you just update to 0.21 now? [00:01] i assume if i do an update now...i'll shoot straight from alpha 2 to alpha 4 [00:01] what version of the frontend are you running? [00:01] ed3120: you are thinking of it the wrong way [00:01] they contained trunk builds of 0.21 [00:01] the default in 8.04 alpha 2 [00:01] if you upgrade now, you get the final build of 0.21 [00:01] as far as mythtv goes [00:01] no reason not to upgrade [00:01] but will it be able to pull in the older db? [00:02] yes, db gets updated automatically [00:02] it's just going backward that's a problem :) [00:02] ok, i'll go for it [00:02] by the way ...you guys are great....i really appreciate it [00:02] well make sure you make a backup first [00:02] but ya, they should upgrade automagically [00:03] my mythbuntu was running great...but there is a flaw in mcc that when you update your mythweb password, it blanks it out [00:03] (yes, i filed a bug report) [00:04] ed3120: well that version is old, unless you upgraded it via apt [00:04] anyway, my mythweb was passwordless for a few days and someone on the internet found it and when into the config and destroyed my settings [00:05] and deleted all my recordings [00:05] luckily i have the backup db [00:05] lol [00:05] why did u open it to the net? [00:06] whats the point of mythweb if not to open it up to the net? [00:06] mythweb was open so i can schedule recordings - doesn't everyone use that? [00:06] lol vpn? ssh tunnel [00:06] etc [00:06] and to watch tv on your lunch break [00:06] yeah [00:06] its fine assuming you set a password....which i did, but MCC ate it for some reason [00:06] but i got a vpn [00:06] and ssh [00:06] so i can tunnel port 80 to my server [00:06] lol [00:06] newb mistake [00:07] you wont do it again [00:07] ed3120: run http on a differnt port help [00:07] I run mine open to the interweb, but not on 80 [00:08] i know, but the key here is that the password was erased automatically...i wouldn't call it my mistake...but it's alpha software so i can't complain :) [00:18] I found another problem: didnt install mysql-server and mythtv-database. I thougt mythbuntu-desktop includes these. So now I installed everything and configuerd it. looks quiet well. Now when I want to start mythtv I get this error:"TV Error: Failed to get recording show list" whats my problem? [00:25] hello [00:26] what in path of recording video in mythtv? [00:26] huh? [00:27] /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ [00:28] thats the default, you can set it to anywhere you want in the setup menu [00:28] very very thanks my friend! [00:28] in setup menu? [00:29] in mythtv-setup [00:29] please guide me?(i'm newbie in mythtv!) [00:33] how to changing path of record in mythtv-setup?which section? [00:33] mkargar: I think its under general [00:33] can't check cause my backend is recording [00:35] it's under storage groups in .21 isn't it [00:37] you'd know that better than I would, I haven't used them yet [00:42] i checking general section and storage group!all path was wrong! [00:46] anybody here? === tritium is now known as [NM]tritium === [NM]tritium is now known as tritium[NM] [02:31] any1 ever used a jetway MiniQ Twin + his Remote with ubuntu / linux ? === gcleric is now known as gcleric[NM] === Wckt2 is now known as WcktKlwn === nico_ is now known as camelreef [07:17] good morning from Scotland [07:18] superm1, ? [07:21] hey camelreef a little late. i'm headed to bed :) [07:21] ah [07:21] just a quicky [07:22] sure [07:22] you take care of the ipod-convenience [07:22] do you own an iPod Touch ? [07:22] yup [07:23] I'm looking for one good experience with Linux to find an excuse to buy one [07:23] well once it's jailbroken it's great [07:23] i'd never buy one and keep factory firmware [07:23] including videos ? [07:23] yeah i had videos working [07:23] with gtkpod-aac [07:23] jailbreak is a given [07:23] oko, enough for me [07:23] you just need to transcode to the proper format [07:23] thanks [07:23] and good night [07:23] well one sec [07:23] ok [07:23] minor warning, that transcoding can be finicky [07:24] I've read that [07:24] so you need to use atomicparsley [07:24] ok [07:24] and mythexport [07:24] to do myth transcodes [07:24] you can use handbrake for general stuff [07:24] i used handbrake with mine [07:24] for transcoding a dvd [07:24] ok [07:24] rhpot wrote the stuff for mythexport though [07:24] thanks [07:25] so if you've got trouble, both of us are here :) [07:25] excellent, 32 GB, here I come [07:25] hehe [07:25] (plus I have a $100 gift card) [07:25] have fun with it [07:25] i notice i barely use mine for "music and video" [07:25] i installed last.fm on it [07:25] and use it when walking the dog close enough to the appt and web browsing [07:26] I have normal IPods (nanos), the ability to extend and wi-fi are tempting [07:26] my friends tell me i'm the most connected person they know [07:26] and this is part of it [07:26] no surprise [07:26] I tend to be the same [07:27] when i took a cruise for a week, it was honestly really hard to not be able to check mail inbetween waiting for food [07:27] or similar [07:27] :) [07:30] yup [07:30] I'm always lugging the big laptop [07:30] even on vacation, to my wife's horror [07:32] I have my own hosted mail server so I can have mail freedom and universal access [07:32] ah both a blessing and a curse then [07:33] a bit, yeah [07:33] Touch does IMAP/SSL, huh ? [07:33] and SMTP/TLS ? [07:34] never really looked much into it. it does my gmail w/ imap [07:35] so that makes me happy nough [07:35] I have about 16 cores and 25 GB of RAM spread over the house, and a few TB computing-wise [07:35] strangely enough, I want to keep my cell phone simple [07:35] I don;t want a PDA/phone [07:36] I don;t like to use phones too much either [07:36] ah well then you're not as connected as me then [07:36] i'll probably end up with a crackberry later this year when my phone contract with this current phone is up [07:36] I like to keep a minimal space of disconnection [07:37] that's one thing you will never see me with, a crackberry [07:37] i've resisted it too, but only to have an internet plan on my crappy phone [07:37] that is really slow [07:37] and painful to use [07:37] any1 know the Jetway MiniQ Twin Barebone system, espectly the IR Device ... [07:37] the "sent using my blackberry" in the sig is usually a sign that the message will be rubbish, probably written fromthe toilet in a hurry [07:38] well in any which case though, i'm gonna hit the sack [07:38] night camelreef [07:38] sorry hitme666 not familiar [07:38] I have internet on my phone, Opera installed on it, rarely use it [07:39] sometimes for Google maps, or with the latop using bluetooth in a bind [07:39] night Mario [07:39] hitme666, nope, nt familiar [07:44] any1 know the Jetway MiniQ Twin Barebone system, espectly the IR Device ...seems the ir device there is "special" :( .. 10 pins from ir controler to the MB ... the only events i can catsh are event1 (for media buttons) witch is same to keyboard and mouse 2 (for trackball) with is same as normal mouse :( [07:44] sorry for the repeat at start :/ [11:48] how do I setup the channels? e.g. entering the channel name and so on? [11:48] I don't find it in the install guide [11:50] run mythtv-setup. run all five steps IN ORDER. the channel editor is one of the steps [11:51] Is there an option to preview the channel so I can have a look at the channel logo? [11:51] from mythtv-setup? no [11:51] sorry [11:52] and how am I supposed to find out? [11:53] hrm... [11:53] mythweb allows for some editing of channel data, you could run the frontend and have mythweb's channel editor open on another machine [12:27] <[_Snarf_]> Alright, I'm having some trouble setting up transcoding.. I just installed 7.10 and upgraded to .21... where do I go to configure transcoding at? [14:16] I'm patching the lirc source as described in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus but I have several lirc packages install (using mythbuntu). Do I need to remove all of them before I make install? [14:17] Seems like there are a few dependencies I would lose as well if I erased the lirc package [14:19] did you try it as-is? [14:19] Not yet [14:19] Wanted to be cautious before I borked my install [14:23] generally, avoid make install. if you want to replace packages, modify the packages [14:23] apt-get build-dep lirc && apt-get source lirc && cd lirc* && patch -p0 < /path/to/patch.diff && dpkg-build-package -us -uc -rfakeroot [14:24] you really should edit debian/changelog and bump the version number too [14:28] Thanks - I'll give that a try [14:29] iulius, are you on hardy or gutsy? [14:29] Gutsy [14:29] there is another method available now that is even easier than that... [14:29] okay [14:29] it's worth a shot at least :) [14:30] grab lirc-modules-source from hardy [14:30] <[_Snarf_]> Where do I go to set up transcoding? For some reason, if I attempt to transcode a video I've recorded via the mythweb, it comes back with "Autodetect (exit status 255, job status was "Errored")" [14:31] and patch /usr/src/lirc-VER [14:31] in that folder === [_Snarf_] is now known as TehSnarf [14:33] superm1, looks like a crap patch to me - think it'll break regular remote wonder support :/ [14:33] directhex|work, well this is a local patch :) [14:34] for local people! [16:14] whoa [16:14] 0.21 had some performance tweaks too? [16:15] one channel fullscreen, one PIP and one watched live via another computer -- the load is insignificant... 0.20 only supported one channel at a time and caused bigger load [16:20] Koffa: nice. I know that frontend can use much less memory depending on theme and resolution [16:21] I like the UI-changes too (mostly... didn't like the new default(?) '6 round images' navigation though) [16:21] but eg. mythweb seems better [16:22] how can I force scan = progressive for good for all channels? [16:22] all other video scans flicker a lot [16:57] is the PIP-size configurable? [16:57] didn't find it [17:11] is anyone else getting slow script errors in firefox with the new mythweb? [17:12] or, not errors. just the popup box asking if you want them to continue [17:13] pdragon: I do sometimes [17:14] I think normally when I have a lot of tabs opened [17:16] them? [17:16] javascript? [17:17] ya [17:17] it asks you if you want to stop the script [17:17] pdragon: I have noticed if I tell it to stop the script it seems to finish whatever it was supposed to be doing [17:18] it still works with lynx, right?-) [17:18] scheduling etc [17:19] not sure [17:35] the killer-app for htpc was remote usability [17:37] seems to work with Links... [17:37] <3 [17:47] 2008-03-14 19:46:38.078 Received a remote 'Clear Cache' request [17:47] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [18:07] sorry, had to step ot [18:07] out [18:07] yeah, if i tell it to continue it works fine. [18:08] just wondering what might be causing it. looked up some stuff about it and they said it's something in firefox that tries to stop scripts stuck in a loop [18:11] I just downloaded the mythbuntu 7.10 release and when I boot it up I get a command prompt beginning with (intitramfs). Is this normal? How do I install it? [18:21] Where can I find some settings for decent transcoding profiles? [18:27] Ok since I couldn't get mythbuntu to boot I checked md5 and the hashes are different because of that I was going to try the torrent download instead of a direct download but the torrent link says torrent not found. Any have some suggestions? [18:36] how long should it take to fill the program guide? [18:37] upgrade nuked it and now I'm missing even some data not more than 20 minutes from now === nico_ is now known as camelreef [18:38] good evening from scotland [18:39] is there someone atm with xmltv knowledge? [18:39] evening tgm4883 [18:39] hi [18:40] morning [18:41] I must be an idiot, as I have trouble wrapping my mind around XMLTV and MythTV when thousands are doing it [18:42] * tgm4883_laptop_ doesn't use xmltv [18:42] bah [18:42] I have my dvb-s card created [18:43] I created a new video source and set the channels I am receiving [18:43] I have attached the video source to the capture device [18:43] and now I fail to understand mythfilldatabase --manual [18:44] how do I match my tuned channels to the XMLTV channels? [18:53] hmm.. my transcoding started working on upgrade :D [18:53] that's nice... I was running out of space already :} [19:04] oh nice. finally reading through all .21 options. that option to turn off livetv recording after a set idle time will be nice o.o [19:04] accidentally left that running a few times and filled the drive [19:10] Anyone have any suggestions as to some transcoding settings? for like, high/medium/low? Right now they're all set to the same thing and I've no idea where to even begin adjusting the levels to [19:10] not myself. don't do much transcoding [19:10] pits [19:17] uuh... that flash-player should be nice -- with N800 :} [19:18] anyone tried livetv on some sort of ramdisk? [19:18] so.. i have this problem. i mount some stuff from my server with nfs. With every boot of both my frontends i get "Waiting for /var/lib/mythtv/recordings" for like one minute and then "Failed". The stuff mounts as it should. Why [19:18] that wait time.. [19:18] ddr2 seems to be free nowadays, some 3G ramdisk should be nice... [19:18] mount -a = instant.. no wait [19:29] hmm.. 4GB movie is now 5.5GB and 83% done [19:30] Can i delete "OLDHOSTNAME" in the settings-table? [19:30] so I'll take back my 'it works' :) [19:44] koffa: u still around [19:44] yeah [19:45] so [19:45] I am trying to setup a video share properly. I have a masterbackend and slavefrontend [19:46] I have all videos on a hardisk and that mounts to the var lib mythtv videos directory on the backend. [19:46] i can see the videos on the backend in that folder. [19:46] I exported videos directory on the backend [19:46] and setup the hosts file for slavefrontend [19:47] I then setup a mount point on the slavefrontend to pull over nfs the videos into /var/lib/mythtv/videos on the slave [19:47] i cant see the videos on the slave in videomanager [19:47] guys, my tv_grab_fr does not automatically match channel ids, I have to do a mythfilldatabase --manual - I am a bit stumped there... [19:48] sorry but I have a combined front/back, nuttin fancy :) [19:48] oh ok [19:48] just wondering if I could use my N800 as a telly :) [19:48] you can [19:48] google it [19:49] without transcoding everything... more on-the-fly [19:49] oh i dont know about that [19:51] well, first semi-successful transcode -- 3.8G -> 6.3G [19:51] needs some tweaking :) [19:57] it's not lacking much... [19:57] sound is fine, image smth like 5fps :) [19:57] n800... [19:59] good evening directhex [19:59] helo [19:59] I'm looking for xmltv knowledge, do you have any? [19:59] not really. i use eit [20:00] I use it too on DVB-T, but its sub-par on dvb-S [20:24] I've just done a apt-get dist-upgrade and the backend is throwing the following when it starts: Duplicate column name 'oldrecduplicate' [20:24] Is this is known problem? I can't find a reference on the site. [20:34] my system is hanging at every shutdown or reboot: "Running local boot scripts"... [20:34] It's happened before with previous installs... is there a fix?? [20:39] I can 'RSEIUB' out of it--but what a huge PIA! [20:48] Sometimes the screen goes to black with just a horizontal cursor blinking in the extreme upper-left corner of the screen... (it's doing that now..) [20:51] do you have any CIFS filesystems mounted? [21:52] I'm back... [21:52] sup [21:52] Hey, dude.... [21:52] I'm having a shutdown/restart problemo.... [21:53] It locks up! [21:53] Any way to fix that...? [21:53] how are you shutting down? [21:53] I have to RSEIUB out of it...every time. Pain-in-the-azz [21:54] The usual way?? Exit out of front end... either click on the exit icon and select 'restart' or shutdown... sometimes open a command-line... What's the RIGHT way?? [21:54] 'sudo shutdown -r now' if I'm using the command line... [21:55] ok. have you tried halt? [21:55] 'halt'? [21:55] you mean 'sudo shutdown -h now'?? [21:57] i guess i'm not sure what you mean by 'halt'.... [22:01] ok...this is me on the myth box... [22:03] surlyjake: where'd ya go, bud...? [22:06] here for 5 more minutes [22:06] halt is a meaner way to shut the machine down [22:06] try it [22:07] just type 'halt' into a command line...? [22:07] sudo halt -r [22:08] ideally, i'd like to 'fix' whatever the problem is... What could be happening to make it freeze like that? (It's done it on previous myth installs, too...) [22:08] let me try that now.... [22:09] Nope. freezes at the same place.... [22:10] "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [22:11] have you taken a look at whats in there? [22:12] no...(not sure i'd know what to make of it anyway!) [22:12] but i'll look (rebooting now..) [22:13] lol. you might want to post those to the pastebin and have someone take a peek at them. [22:13] i GTG. sry peace [22:16] ok, THIS seems rather mysterious: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5702/ [22:17] wtf? [22:20] anyone else at home...? [22:28] wilberfan, looks fine to me [22:29] what could be causing my freeze-up? [22:29] lots of things [22:29] It's just started doing it in the last day or so... (rats) [22:30] what happens if you just log out? [22:30] does that work ok? [22:30] let me go check (it's hung again...) [22:31] [whistles the 'rebooting' tune...] [22:32] it seems to be doing everything else ok: boots fine, records fine, plays back fine... [22:33] although there's another problem that started about the same time: any icons that would ordinarily be displayed in the system tray--are now showing up in little tiny separate windows at the upper left corner of the screen...! [22:33] (don't know if that's related or not....) [22:33] 7.10 or 8.04? [22:34] gutsy (7.10) [22:34] OK...logout seems to work OK.... [22:34] try to shutdown from there [22:34] from the logout screen, you mean...? [22:35] no, i assume thats been locking up [22:35] try to shutdown from the log in screen [22:37] sorry...that's what i meant... the LOGIN screen.... I tried both 'restart' and 'shutdown' from the login screen....and I just ended up back at the login screen... [22:37] strange [22:37] the screen flashes...i get an NVIDIA logo..then the login screen shows up... [22:38] try this [22:38] ctrl-alt-f1 [22:38] log in at the command line [22:38] try shuting down from there [22:38] just sudo shutdown -h now [22:39] back in a little bit, have to do some paid work [22:41] it's not recognizing any keyboard strokes!! [22:42] (although it DID recognize my REISUB...) [22:44] but i couldn't enter any characters at the login: prompt! [22:46] hello room. [22:46] if i am picking out hardware.. should i avoid onboard video? [22:47] ie, nvida 7 onboard [22:49] it's a little quiet in here...but stick around...someone will show up eventually! [22:53] ok :) [23:14] tgm4883_laptop_: Dude. I fingered-out what the problem was...! (with my freeze-on-shutdown situation) [23:15] tgm4883_laptop_: (you'll never guess in a bazillion years...) [23:15] hi. can anyone help me with Nvidia Geforce2 MX 400 and tv-out on mythbuntu? [23:23] way to go and wait a whole 4 minutes atariman [23:23] wilberfan, bugs in the power supply? [23:23] voodoo? [23:23] ahave, i used a nvidia 6 series onboard for a long time with my HD [23:23] it worked great [23:24] only reason i switched is because I have to use a dvi-hdmi adapter now [23:24] tgm4883_laptop_: No, the problem was: [23:24] and a vga-dvi-dvi-hdmi wasn't working [23:24] [drumroll" [23:24] ONE EXTRA QUOTE-SYMBOL IN MY MOBLOCK.CONF FILE!! [23:24] wow [23:24] how did that get in there? [23:25] that will now be my first diagnostic question [23:25] always [23:25] tgm4883_laptop_: oh, that was ME that did that! MY question is--how could ONE character in ONE .conf file mess things up so bad like that!! [23:25] yikers....! [23:25] you would be amazed what one extra character can do [23:26] somehow i thought *nix was "smarter" than that.... [23:26] well it is, but you have to remember that all computer are dumb [23:26] they are just really really really fast [23:26] what about my OTHER problemo: All my systray icons showing up as SEPARATE windows in the upper-left corner of my screen?? [23:27] thats very strange [23:27] Like the network thingie...and my mobloquer...and even UPDATES.... [23:27] not really sure why they show up in different windows [23:27] can we get a screenshot? [23:27] as a matter of fact....! [23:27] (let me find it...) [23:29] me too [23:29] http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/wilberfan/systray_prob.png [23:29] tgm4883_laptop_, what do you think about this hardware setup? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8417086&WishListTitle=IBM%2DMediaPc [23:30] the mobloquer icon is the weirdest by far: it sits right on TOP of the little Ubuntu icon (at the extreme left of the panel) and makes it transparent! [23:30] (you can see the wallpaper 'underneath'...) [23:30] And if you start up the myth frontend...there's a little square that appears in that same position while you're watching your recording or video... [23:32] strange [23:32] is this xfce? [23:32] ahave, what do you plan to do with it? [23:32] tgm4883_laptop_: no...gnome.... [23:32] HD mediapc box [23:32] hope to run mythtv on it [23:32] HD? [23:33] outputing to a 46" HDTV [23:33] wilberfan, very odd. Have you asked over in #ubuntu [23:33] not yet; i did post something in the forum last night... [23:34] k [23:34] i've never seen that before [23:34] ahave, hi def? [23:34] tgm4883_laptop_yes. sorry, hi def [23:34] looks alright [23:35] although if building a machine today, i might go amd [23:35] just cause of the price difference [23:35] tgm4883_laptop_ It will need to be able to decode bluray/HD content from dvd or harddrive [23:35] wilberfan, is that a dell ubuntu machine? [23:35] or just the background [23:35] is it overkill for my needs? [23:36] tgm4883_laptop_: gotcha! no...it's just wallpaper I made to help me remember which of my two boxes I'm lookin' at! :) [23:36] ahave, no, although if you do plan on decoding bluray, you will moost likely need a better video card [23:36]