[00:00] <ed3120> it says db has new schema than expected when i start the frontend
[00:00] <Alowishus> newer??
[00:00] <ed3120> i did an update at one point so i think my db backup was alpha 3
[00:00] <Alowishus> oh
[00:00] <Alowishus> umm not sure how to deal with that
[00:00] <Alowishus> can you just update to 0.21 now?
[00:01] <ed3120> i assume if i do an update now...i'll shoot straight from alpha 2 to alpha 4
[00:01] <rhpot1991> what version of the frontend are you running?
[00:01] <rhpot1991> ed3120: you are thinking of it the wrong way
[00:01] <rhpot1991> they contained trunk builds of 0.21
[00:01] <ed3120> the default in 8.04 alpha 2
[00:01] <rhpot1991> if you upgrade now, you get the final build of 0.21
[00:01] <rhpot1991> as far as mythtv goes
[00:01] <rhpot1991> no reason not to upgrade
[00:01] <ed3120> but will it be able to pull in the older db?
[00:02] <Alowishus> yes, db gets updated automatically
[00:02] <Alowishus> it's just going backward that's a problem :)
[00:02] <ed3120> ok, i'll go for it
[00:02] <ed3120> by the way ...you guys are great....i really appreciate it
[00:02] <rhpot1991> well make sure you make a backup first
[00:02] <rhpot1991> but ya, they should upgrade automagically
[00:03] <ed3120> my mythbuntu was running great...but there is a flaw in mcc that when you update your mythweb password, it blanks it out
[00:03] <ed3120> (yes, i filed a bug report)
[00:04] <rhpot1991> ed3120: well that version is old, unless you upgraded it via apt
[00:04] <ed3120> anyway, my mythweb was passwordless for a few days and someone on the internet found it and when into the config and destroyed my settings
[00:05] <ed3120> and deleted all my recordings
[00:05] <ed3120> luckily i have the backup db
[00:05] <a1fa> lol
[00:05] <a1fa> why did u open it to the net?
[00:06] <rhpot1991> whats the point of mythweb if not to open it up to the net?
[00:06] <ed3120> mythweb was open so i can schedule recordings - doesn't everyone use that?
[00:06] <a1fa> lol  vpn? ssh tunnel
[00:06] <a1fa> etc
[00:06] <rhpot1991> and to watch tv on your lunch break
[00:06] <a1fa> yeah
[00:06] <ed3120> its fine assuming you set a password....which i did, but MCC ate it for some reason
[00:06] <a1fa> but i got a vpn
[00:06] <a1fa> and ssh
[00:06] <a1fa> so i can tunnel port 80 to my server
[00:06] <a1fa> lol
[00:06] <a1fa> newb mistake
[00:07] <a1fa> you wont do it again
[00:07] <rhpot1991> ed3120: run http on a differnt port help
[00:07] <rhpot1991> I run mine open to the interweb, but not on 80
[00:08] <ed3120> i know, but the key here is that the password was erased automatically...i wouldn't call it my mistake...but it's alpha software so i can't complain :)
[00:18] <copyofjohan> I found another problem: didnt install mysql-server and mythtv-database. I thougt mythbuntu-desktop includes these. So now I installed everything and configuerd it. looks quiet well. Now when I want to start mythtv I get this error:"TV Error: Failed to get recording show list" whats my problem?
[00:25] <mkargar> hello
[00:26] <mkargar> what in path of recording video in mythtv?
[00:26] <tgm4883_laptop> huh?
[00:27] <tgm4883_laptop> /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/
[00:28] <rhpot1991> thats the default, you can set it to anywhere you want in the setup menu
[00:28] <mkargar> very very thanks my friend!
[00:28] <mkargar> in setup menu?
[00:29] <tgm4883_laptop> in mythtv-setup
[00:29] <mkargar> please guide me?(i'm newbie in mythtv!)
[00:33] <mkargar> how to changing path of record in mythtv-setup?which section?
[00:33] <rhpot1991> mkargar: I think its under general
[00:33] <rhpot1991> can't check cause my backend is recording
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> it's under storage groups in .21 isn't it
[00:37] <rhpot1991> you'd know that better than I would, I haven't used them yet
[00:42] <mkargar> i checking general section and storage group!all path was wrong!
[00:46] <mkargar> anybody here?
[02:31] <hitme666> any1 ever used a jetway MiniQ Twin + his Remote with ubuntu / linux ?
[07:17] <camelreef> good morning from Scotland
[07:18] <camelreef> superm1, ?
[07:21] <superm1> hey camelreef a little late.  i'm headed to bed :)
[07:21] <camelreef> ah
[07:21] <camelreef> just a quicky
[07:22] <superm1> sure
[07:22] <camelreef> you take care of the ipod-convenience
[07:22] <camelreef> do you own an iPod Touch ?
[07:22] <superm1> yup
[07:23] <camelreef> I'm looking for one good experience with Linux to find an excuse to buy one
[07:23] <superm1> well once it's jailbroken it's great
[07:23] <superm1> i'd never buy one and keep factory firmware
[07:23] <camelreef> including videos ?
[07:23] <superm1> yeah i had videos working
[07:23] <superm1> with gtkpod-aac
[07:23] <camelreef> jailbreak is a given
[07:23] <camelreef> oko, enough for me
[07:23] <superm1> you just need to transcode to the proper format
[07:23] <camelreef> thanks
[07:23] <camelreef> and good night
[07:23] <superm1> well one sec
[07:23] <camelreef> ok
[07:23] <superm1> minor warning, that transcoding can be finicky
[07:24] <camelreef> I've read that
[07:24] <superm1> so you need to use atomicparsley
[07:24] <camelreef> ok
[07:24] <superm1> and mythexport
[07:24] <superm1> to do myth transcodes
[07:24] <superm1> you can use handbrake for general stuff
[07:24] <superm1> i used handbrake with mine
[07:24] <superm1> for transcoding a dvd
[07:24] <camelreef> ok
[07:24] <superm1> rhpot wrote the stuff for mythexport though
[07:24] <camelreef> thanks
[07:25] <superm1> so if you've got trouble, both of us are here :)
[07:25] <camelreef> excellent, 32 GB, here I come
[07:25] <superm1> hehe
[07:25] <camelreef> (plus I have a $100 gift card)
[07:25] <superm1> have fun with it
[07:25] <superm1> i notice i barely use mine for "music and video"
[07:25] <superm1> i installed last.fm on it
[07:25] <superm1> and use it when walking the dog close enough to the appt and web browsing
[07:26] <camelreef> I have normal IPods (nanos), the ability to extend and wi-fi are tempting
[07:26] <superm1> my friends tell me i'm the most connected person they know
[07:26] <superm1> and this is part of it
[07:26] <camelreef> no surprise
[07:26] <camelreef> I tend to be the same
[07:27] <superm1> when i took a cruise for a week, it was honestly really hard to not be able to check mail inbetween waiting for food
[07:27] <superm1> or similar
[07:27] <superm1> :)
[07:30] <camelreef> yup
[07:30] <camelreef> I'm always lugging the big laptop
[07:30] <camelreef> even on vacation, to my wife's horror
[07:32] <camelreef> I have my own hosted mail server so I can have mail freedom and universal access
[07:32] <superm1> ah both a blessing and a curse then
[07:33] <camelreef> a bit, yeah
[07:33] <camelreef> Touch does IMAP/SSL, huh ?
[07:33] <camelreef> and SMTP/TLS ?
[07:34] <superm1> never really looked much into it.  it does my gmail w/ imap
[07:35] <superm1> so that makes me happy nough
[07:35] <camelreef> I have about 16 cores and 25 GB of RAM spread over the house, and a few TB computing-wise
[07:35] <camelreef> strangely enough, I want to keep my cell phone simple
[07:35] <camelreef> I don;t want a PDA/phone
[07:36] <camelreef> I don;t like to use phones too much either
[07:36] <superm1> ah well then you're not as connected as me then
[07:36] <superm1> i'll probably end up with a crackberry later this year when my phone contract with this current phone is up
[07:36] <camelreef> I like to keep a minimal space of disconnection
[07:37] <camelreef> that's one thing you will never see me with, a crackberry
[07:37] <superm1> i've resisted it too, but only to have an internet plan on my crappy phone
[07:37] <superm1> that is really slow
[07:37] <superm1> and painful to use
[07:37] <hitme666> any1 know the Jetway MiniQ Twin Barebone system, espectly the IR Device ...
[07:37] <camelreef> the "sent using my blackberry" in the sig is usually a sign that the message will be rubbish, probably written fromthe toilet in a hurry
[07:38] <superm1> well in any which case though, i'm gonna hit the sack
[07:38] <superm1> night camelreef
[07:38] <superm1> sorry hitme666 not familiar
[07:38] <camelreef> I have internet on my phone, Opera installed on it, rarely use it
[07:39] <camelreef> sometimes for Google maps, or with the latop using bluetooth in a bind
[07:39] <camelreef> night Mario
[07:39] <camelreef> hitme666, nope, nt familiar
[07:44] <hitme666> any1 know the Jetway MiniQ Twin Barebone system, espectly the IR Device ...seems the ir device there is "special" :( .. 10 pins from ir controler to the MB ... the only events i can catsh are event1 (for media buttons) witch is same to keyboard and mouse 2 (for trackball) with is same as normal mouse :(
[07:44] <hitme666> sorry for the repeat at start :/
[11:48] <sonium> how do I setup the channels? e.g. entering the channel name and so on?
[11:48] <sonium> I don't find it in the install guide
[11:50] <directhex|work> run mythtv-setup. run all five steps IN ORDER. the channel editor is one of the steps
[11:51] <sonium> Is there an option to preview the channel so I can have a look at the channel logo?
[11:51] <directhex|work> from mythtv-setup? no
[11:51] <directhex|work> sorry
[11:52] <sonium> and how am I supposed to find out?
[11:53] <sonium> hrm...
[11:53] <directhex|work> mythweb allows for some editing of channel data, you could run the frontend and have mythweb's channel editor open on another machine
[12:27] <[_Snarf_]> Alright, I'm having some trouble setting up transcoding.. I just installed 7.10 and upgraded to .21... where do I go to configure transcoding at?
[14:16] <iulius> I'm patching the lirc source as described in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus but I have several lirc packages install (using mythbuntu). Do I need to remove all of them before I make install?
[14:17] <iulius> Seems like there are a few dependencies I would lose as well if I erased the lirc package
[14:19] <directhex|work> did you try it as-is?
[14:19] <iulius> Not yet
[14:19] <iulius> Wanted to be cautious before I borked my install
[14:23] <directhex|work> generally, avoid make install. if you want to replace packages, modify the packages
[14:23] <directhex|work> apt-get build-dep lirc && apt-get source lirc  && cd lirc* && patch -p0 < /path/to/patch.diff && dpkg-build-package -us -uc -rfakeroot
[14:24] <directhex|work> you really should edit debian/changelog and bump the version number too
[14:28] <iulius> Thanks - I'll give that a try
[14:29] <superm1> iulius, are you on hardy or gutsy?
[14:29] <iulius> Gutsy
[14:29] <superm1> there is another method available now that is even easier than that...
[14:29] <superm1> okay
[14:29] <superm1> it's worth a shot at least :)
[14:30] <superm1> grab lirc-modules-source from hardy
[14:30] <[_Snarf_]> Where do I go to set up transcoding? For some reason, if I attempt to transcode a video I've recorded via the mythweb, it comes back with "Autodetect (exit status 255, job status was "Errored")"
[14:31] <superm1> and patch /usr/src/lirc-VER
[14:31] <superm1> in that folder
[14:33] <directhex|work> superm1, looks like a crap patch to me - think it'll break regular remote wonder support :/
[14:33] <superm1> directhex|work, well this is a local patch :)
[14:34] <directhex|work> for local people!
[16:14] <Koffa> whoa
[16:14] <Koffa> 0.21 had some performance tweaks too?
[16:15] <Koffa> one channel fullscreen, one PIP and one watched live via another computer -- the load is insignificant... 0.20 only supported one channel at a time and caused bigger load
[16:20] <frank_> Koffa: nice. I know that frontend can use much less memory depending on theme and resolution
[16:21] <Koffa> I like the UI-changes too (mostly... didn't like the new default(?) '6 round images' navigation though)
[16:21] <Koffa> but eg. mythweb seems better
[16:22] <Koffa> how can I force scan = progressive for good for all channels?
[16:22] <Koffa> all other video scans flicker a lot
[16:57] <Koffa> is the PIP-size configurable?
[16:57] <Koffa> didn't find it
[17:11] <pdragon> is anyone else getting slow script errors in firefox with the new mythweb?
[17:12] <pdragon> or, not errors. just the popup box asking if you want them to continue
[17:13] <rhpot1991> pdragon: I do sometimes
[17:14] <rhpot1991> I think normally when I have a lot of tabs opened
[17:16] <Koffa> them?
[17:16] <Koffa> javascript?
[17:17] <rhpot1991> ya
[17:17] <rhpot1991> it asks you if you want to stop the script
[17:17] <rhpot1991> pdragon: I have noticed if I tell it to stop the script it seems to finish whatever it was supposed to be doing
[17:18] <Koffa> it still works with lynx, right?-)
[17:18] <Koffa> scheduling etc
[17:19] <rhpot1991> not sure
[17:35] <Koffa> the killer-app for htpc was remote usability
[17:37] <Koffa> seems to work with Links...
[17:37] <Koffa> <3
[17:47] <Koffa> 2008-03-14 19:46:38.078 Received a remote 'Clear Cache' request
[17:47] <Koffa> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:07] <pdragon> sorry, had to step ot
[18:07] <pdragon> out
[18:07] <pdragon> yeah, if i tell it to continue it works fine.
[18:08] <pdragon> just wondering what might be causing it. looked up some stuff about it and they said it's something in firefox that tries to stop scripts stuck in a loop
[18:11] <alanbshepard70> I just downloaded the mythbuntu 7.10 release and when I boot it up I get a command prompt beginning with (intitramfs). Is this normal? How do I install it?
[18:21] <TehSnarf> Where can I find some settings for decent transcoding profiles?
[18:27] <alanbshepard70> Ok since I couldn't get mythbuntu to boot I checked md5 and the hashes are different because of that I was going to try the torrent download instead of a direct download but the torrent link says torrent not found. Any have some suggestions?
[18:36] <Koffa> how long should it take to fill the program guide?
[18:37] <Koffa> upgrade nuked it and now I'm missing even some data not more than 20 minutes from now
[18:38] <camelreef> good evening from scotland
[18:39] <camelreef> is there someone atm with xmltv knowledge?
[18:39] <camelreef> evening tgm4883
[18:39] <tgm4883_laptop_> hi
[18:40] <tgm4883_laptop_> morning
[18:41] <camelreef> I must be an idiot, as I have trouble wrapping my mind around XMLTV and MythTV when thousands are doing it
[18:42]  * tgm4883_laptop_ doesn't use xmltv
[18:42] <tgm4883_laptop_> bah
[18:42] <camelreef> I have my dvb-s card created
[18:43] <camelreef> I created a new video source and set the channels I am receiving
[18:43] <camelreef> I have attached the video source to the capture device
[18:43] <camelreef> and now I fail to understand mythfilldatabase --manual
[18:44] <camelreef> how do I match my tuned channels to the XMLTV channels?
[18:53] <Koffa> hmm.. my transcoding started working on upgrade :D
[18:53] <Koffa> that's nice... I was running out of space already :}
[19:04] <pdragon> oh nice. finally reading through all .21 options. that option to turn off livetv recording after a set idle time will be nice o.o
[19:04] <pdragon> accidentally left that running a few times and filled the drive
[19:10] <TehSnarf> Anyone have any suggestions as to some transcoding settings? for like, high/medium/low? Right now they're all set to the same thing and I've no idea where to even begin adjusting the levels to
[19:10] <pdragon> not myself. don't do much transcoding
[19:10] <TehSnarf> pits
[19:17] <Koffa> uuh... that flash-player should be nice -- with N800 :}
[19:18] <Koffa> anyone tried livetv on some sort of ramdisk?
[19:18] <Nikas> so.. i have this problem. i mount some stuff from my server with nfs. With every boot of both my frontends i get "Waiting for /var/lib/mythtv/recordings" for like one minute and then "Failed". The stuff mounts as it should. Why
[19:18] <Nikas> that wait time..
[19:18] <Koffa> ddr2 seems to be free nowadays, some 3G ramdisk should be nice...
[19:18] <Nikas> mount -a = instant.. no wait
[19:29] <Koffa> hmm.. 4GB movie is now 5.5GB and 83% done
[19:30] <Nikas> Can i delete "OLDHOSTNAME" in the settings-table?
[19:30] <Koffa> so I'll take back my 'it works' :)
[19:44] <alexvd_> koffa: u still around
[19:44] <Koffa> yeah
[19:45] <alexvd_> so
[19:45] <alexvd_> I am trying to setup a video share properly. I have a masterbackend and slavefrontend
[19:46] <alexvd_> I have all videos on a hardisk and that mounts to the var lib mythtv videos directory on the backend.
[19:46] <alexvd_> i can see the videos on the backend in that folder.
[19:46] <alexvd_> I exported videos directory on the backend
[19:46] <alexvd_> and setup the hosts file for slavefrontend
[19:47] <alexvd_> I then setup a mount point on the slavefrontend to pull over nfs the videos into /var/lib/mythtv/videos on the slave
[19:47] <alexvd_> i cant see the videos on the slave in videomanager
[19:47] <camelreef> guys, my tv_grab_fr does not automatically match channel ids, I have to do a mythfilldatabase --manual - I am a bit stumped there...
[19:48] <Koffa> sorry but I have a combined front/back, nuttin fancy :)
[19:48] <alexvd_> oh ok
[19:48] <Koffa> just wondering if I could use my N800 as a telly :)
[19:48] <alexvd_> you can
[19:48] <alexvd_> google it
[19:49] <Koffa> without transcoding everything... more on-the-fly
[19:49] <alexvd_> oh i dont know about that
[19:51] <Koffa> well, first semi-successful transcode -- 3.8G -> 6.3G
[19:51] <Koffa> needs some tweaking :)
[19:57] <Koffa> it's not lacking much...
[19:57] <Koffa> sound is fine, image smth like 5fps :)
[19:57] <Koffa> n800...
[19:59] <camelreef> good evening directhex
[19:59] <directhex> helo
[19:59] <camelreef> I'm looking for xmltv knowledge, do you have any?
[19:59] <directhex> not really. i use eit
[20:00] <camelreef> I use it too on DVB-T, but its sub-par on dvb-S
[20:24] <Dorward> I've just done a apt-get dist-upgrade and the backend is throwing the following when it starts: Duplicate column name 'oldrecduplicate'
[20:24] <Dorward> Is this is known problem? I can't find a reference on the site.
[20:34] <wilberfan> my system is hanging at every shutdown or reboot:  "Running local boot scripts"...
[20:34] <wilberfan> It's happened before with previous installs...   is there a fix??
[20:39] <wilberfan> I can 'RSEIUB' out of it--but what a huge PIA!
[20:48] <wilberfan> Sometimes the screen goes to black with just a horizontal cursor blinking in the extreme upper-left corner of the screen... (it's doing that now..)
[20:51] <directhex> do you have any CIFS filesystems mounted?
[21:52] <wilberfan> I'm back...
[21:52] <surlyjake> sup
[21:52] <wilberfan> Hey, dude....
[21:52] <wilberfan> I'm having a shutdown/restart problemo....
[21:53] <wilberfan> It locks up!
[21:53] <wilberfan> Any way to fix that...?
[21:53] <surlyjake> how are you shutting down?
[21:53] <wilberfan> I have to RSEIUB out of it...every time.  Pain-in-the-azz
[21:54] <wilberfan> The usual way??  Exit out of front end...  either click on the exit icon and select 'restart' or shutdown...  sometimes open a command-line...   What's the RIGHT way??
[21:54] <wilberfan> 'sudo shutdown -r now' if I'm using the command line...
[21:55] <surlyjake> ok. have you tried halt?
[21:55] <wilberfan> 'halt'?
[21:55] <wilberfan> you mean 'sudo shutdown -h now'??
[21:57] <wilberfan> i guess i'm not sure what you mean by 'halt'....
[22:01] <wilberfan_> ok...this is me on the myth box...
[22:03] <wilberfan> surlyjake: where'd ya go, bud...?
[22:06] <surlyjake> here for 5 more minutes
[22:06] <surlyjake> halt is a meaner way to shut the machine down
[22:06] <surlyjake> try it
[22:07] <wilberfan_> just type 'halt' into a command line...?
[22:07] <surlyjake> sudo halt -r
[22:08] <wilberfan_> ideally, i'd like to 'fix' whatever the problem is...   What could be happening to make it freeze like that?  (It's done it on previous myth installs, too...)
[22:08] <wilberfan_> let me try that now....
[22:09] <wilberfan> Nope.  freezes at the same place....
[22:10] <wilberfan> "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[22:11] <surlyjake> have you taken a look at whats in there?
[22:12] <wilberfan> no...(not sure i'd know what to make of it anyway!)
[22:12] <wilberfan> but i'll look (rebooting now..)
[22:13] <surlyjake> lol. you might want to post those to the pastebin and have someone take a peek at them.
[22:13] <surlyjake> i GTG. sry peace
[22:16] <wilberfan_> ok, THIS seems rather mysterious:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5702/
[22:17] <wilberfan_> wtf?
[22:20] <wilberfan> anyone else at home...?
[22:28] <tgm4883_laptop_> wilberfan, looks fine to me
[22:29] <wilberfan> what could be causing my freeze-up?
[22:29] <tgm4883_laptop_> lots of things
[22:29] <wilberfan> It's just started doing it in the last day or so...   (rats)
[22:30] <tgm4883_laptop_> what happens if you just log out?
[22:30] <tgm4883_laptop_> does that work ok?
[22:30] <wilberfan> let me go check (it's hung again...)
[22:31] <wilberfan> [whistles the 'rebooting' tune...]
[22:32] <wilberfan> it seems to be doing everything else ok:  boots fine, records fine, plays back fine...
[22:33] <wilberfan> although there's another problem that started about the same time:  any icons that would ordinarily be displayed in the system tray--are now showing up in little tiny separate windows at the upper left corner of the screen...!
[22:33] <wilberfan> (don't know if that's related or not....)
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop_> 7.10 or 8.04?
[22:34] <wilberfan> gutsy (7.10)
[22:34] <wilberfan> OK...logout seems to work OK....
[22:34] <tgm4883_laptop_> try to shutdown from there
[22:34] <wilberfan> from the logout screen, you mean...?
[22:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> no, i assume thats been locking up
[22:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> try to shutdown from the log in screen
[22:37] <wilberfan> sorry...that's what i meant... the LOGIN screen....  I tried both 'restart' and 'shutdown' from the login screen....and I just ended up back at the login screen...
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop_> strange
[22:37] <wilberfan> the screen flashes...i get an NVIDIA logo..then the login screen shows up...
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop_> try this
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop_> ctrl-alt-f1
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop_> log in at the command line
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop_> try shuting down from there
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop_> just sudo shutdown -h now
[22:39] <tgm4883_laptop_> back in a little bit, have to do some paid work
[22:41] <wilberfan> it's not recognizing any keyboard strokes!!
[22:42] <wilberfan> (although it DID recognize my REISUB...)
[22:44] <wilberfan> but i couldn't enter any characters at the login:  prompt!
[22:46] <ahave> hello room.
[22:46] <ahave> if i am picking out hardware.. should i avoid onboard video?
[22:47] <ahave> ie, nvida 7 onboard
[22:49] <wilberfan> it's a little quiet in here...but stick around...someone will show up eventually!
[22:53] <ahave> ok :)
[23:14] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: Dude.  I fingered-out what the problem was...!  (with my freeze-on-shutdown situation)
[23:15] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: (you'll never guess in a bazillion years...)
[23:15] <atariman> hi. can anyone help me with Nvidia Geforce2 MX 400 and tv-out on mythbuntu?
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop_> way to go and wait a whole 4 minutes atariman
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop_> wilberfan, bugs in the power supply?
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop_> voodoo?
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop_> ahave, i used a nvidia 6 series onboard for a long time with my HD
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop_> it worked great
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop_> only reason i switched is because I have to use a dvi-hdmi adapter now
[23:24] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: No, the problem was:
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop_> and a vga-dvi-dvi-hdmi wasn't working
[23:24] <wilberfan> [drumroll"
[23:24] <wilberfan> ONE EXTRA QUOTE-SYMBOL IN MY MOBLOCK.CONF FILE!!
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop_> wow
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop_> how did that get in there?
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop_> that will now be my first diagnostic question
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop_> always
[23:25] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: oh, that was ME that did that!   MY question is--how could ONE character in ONE .conf file mess things up so bad like that!!
[23:25] <wilberfan> yikers....!
[23:25] <tgm4883_laptop_> you would be amazed what one extra character can do
[23:26] <wilberfan> somehow i thought *nix was "smarter" than that....
[23:26] <tgm4883_laptop_> well it is, but you have to remember that all computer are dumb
[23:26] <tgm4883_laptop_> they are just really really really fast
[23:26] <wilberfan> what about my OTHER problemo:   All my systray icons showing up as SEPARATE windows in the upper-left corner of my screen??
[23:27] <tgm4883_laptop_> thats very strange
[23:27] <wilberfan> Like the network thingie...and my mobloquer...and even UPDATES....
[23:27] <tgm4883_laptop_> not really sure why they show up in different windows
[23:27] <tgm4883_laptop_> can we get a screenshot?
[23:27] <wilberfan> as a matter of fact....!
[23:27] <wilberfan> (let me find it...)
[23:29] <tgm4883_laptop_> me too
[23:29] <wilberfan> http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/wilberfan/systray_prob.png
[23:29] <ahave> tgm4883_laptop_, what do you think about this hardware setup? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8417086&WishListTitle=IBM%2DMediaPc
[23:30] <wilberfan> the mobloquer icon is the weirdest by far:  it sits right on TOP of the little Ubuntu icon (at the extreme left of the panel) and makes it transparent!
[23:30] <wilberfan> (you can see the wallpaper 'underneath'...)
[23:30] <wilberfan> And if you start up the myth frontend...there's a little square that appears in that same position while you're watching your recording or video...
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop_> strange
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop_> is this xfce?
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop_> ahave, what do you plan to do with it?
[23:32] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: no...gnome....
[23:32] <ahave> HD mediapc box
[23:32] <ahave> hope to run mythtv on it
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop_> HD?
[23:33] <ahave> outputing to a 46" HDTV
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop_> wilberfan, very odd.  Have you asked over in #ubuntu
[23:33] <wilberfan> not yet; i did post something in the forum last night...
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop_> k
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop_> i've never seen that before
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop_> ahave, hi def?
[23:34] <ahave> tgm4883_laptop_yes. sorry, hi def
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop_> looks alright
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> although if building a machine today, i might go amd
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> just cause of the price difference
[23:35] <ahave> tgm4883_laptop_ It will need to be able to decode bluray/HD content from dvd or harddrive
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> wilberfan, is that a dell ubuntu machine?
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop_> or just the background
[23:35] <ahave> is it overkill for my needs?
[23:36] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_:  gotcha!   no...it's just wallpaper I made to help me remember which of my two boxes I'm lookin' at!  :)
[23:36] <tgm4883_laptop_> ahave, no, although if you do plan on decoding bluray, you will moost likely need a better video card
[23:36] <ahave> like how high?
[23:37] <tgm4883_laptop_> i really don't know as I have never done it myself
[23:37] <tgm4883_laptop_> directhex|bsp, directhex|work ping
[23:43] <pat__> is there anyone know in mythvideo, how to stretch the folder.jpg to fill up the yellow folder
[23:56] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop_: thanks for your help earlier, dude...
[23:56] <wilberfan> even though i kinda fingered it out on my own... (but i think you nudged me in the right direction...)