[00:00] <Dr_willis> The latest vice releases however  - do have some nicer gui/features - that you may want to just compile from source anyway.
[00:03] <flake> I tried but had a couple of errors with the make
[00:03] <flake> i'll try again
[00:06] <dillizar> helo
[00:07] <dillizar> any one online
[00:07] <tekteen> hi
[00:07] <dillizar> yo
[00:07] <dillizar> can u help me
[00:07] <tekteen> sure
[00:07] <tekteen> !ask
[00:07] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:08] <dillizar> i dunno how to use this client
[00:08] <tekteen> which one?
[00:08] <dillizar> konversacoin
[00:08] <tekteen> ok
[00:08] <tekteen> what help do you need
[00:09] <dillizar> i wann go to undernet
[00:09] <dillizar> :)
[00:09] <tekteen> what is that?
[00:09] <dillizar> server
[00:09] <tekteen> ok
[00:09] <dillizar> how
[00:09] <tekteen> ok
[00:09] <Jucato> dillizar: File -> Quick Connect or add an Undernet entry to the Server List
[00:10] <dillizar> what
[00:10] <tekteen> click F7
[00:10] <Jucato> Konversation does not have a list of servers to choose from. you  have to manually enter the server yourself
[00:10] <Jucato> File menu
[00:10] <tekteen> dillizar: click F7
[00:10] <dillizar> error it said
[00:10] <tekteen> type in the server and a nickname
[00:11] <asobi> if you don't know how to get to undernet, it's probably best you don't...
[00:11] <dillizar> lol
[00:11] <dillizar> when i was useing mirc u can pick the servers
[00:12] <Jucato> yes. but Konversation is not mIRC
[00:12] <asobi> try typing /server irc.undernet.net
[00:12] <dillizar> thakz
[00:13] <asobi> undernet was pretty shady last i visited
[00:13] <dillizar> :/
[00:13] <dillizar> k
[00:13] <dillizar> :)
[00:13] <Y-Town> dillizar: You dont like us?
[00:14] <dillizar> lol
[00:14] <dillizar> dunno
[00:14] <czester_> hello
[00:14] <dillizar> maybe
[00:14] <dillizar> lol
[00:14] <dillizar> i do
[00:14] <dillizar> :)
[00:14] <dale> can anyone tell me if 2.6 kernel dropped support for PCI video cards.
[00:15] <Level15> dale: not likely
[00:16] <dillizar> so
[00:16] <dillizar> lets chat
[00:16] <dillizar> :)
[00:16] <dillizar> `sup
[00:16] <stdin> !ot
[00:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:17] <cesteves> hello ppl
[00:18] <robersonfox> hey guys, the question is: Java or C#, in yours opnions, what's the best?
[00:18] <cesteves> c#, i think
[00:18] <stdin> ...
[00:18] <stdin> !ot > robersonfox
[00:18] <Jucato> !offtopic | robersonfox
[00:18] <ubotu> robersonfox: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:19] <fuhreal> !kbuildsyscoca
[00:19] <ubotu> If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[00:19] <cesteves> anyone from portugal??
[00:19] <Shadow_mil> stdin....
[00:19] <stdin> Shadow_mil: yes?
[00:19] <Shadow_mil> I love you, is stdout away from home?
[00:20] <cesteves> BENFICA, the best of the world
[00:20] <robersonfox> BRAZILLLL
[00:20] <robersonfox> cesteves:
[00:20] <cesteves> yes?
[00:20] <stdin> next person that says anything offtopic leaves
 If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache  <---that didn't work
[00:20] <cesteves> what is the topic??
[00:20] <stdin> !topic
[00:20] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[00:21] <asobi> it has to be kubuntu related
[00:21] <cesteves> !topic
[00:21] <robersonfox> !topic
[00:21] <cesteves> sorry for my inocence
[00:21] <basy> Hi, If I want more fonts in gimp, all i need to do is instal more ttf- ... packages or i have to do something more?
[00:22] <tekteen> !fonts
[00:22] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[00:22] <cesteves> what is the command to see the topic?? The complete string please
[00:22] <tekteen> /topic
[00:22] <robersonfox> hey friends, i leave yours now, thanks, i going to #java channel
[00:22] <asobi> i have clamav installed, when i run freshclam, i get ---> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[00:22] <asobi> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).
[00:22] <tekteen> asobi: run with sudo
[00:23] <asobi> ^^
[00:23] <asobi> thanks
[00:23] <tekteen> np
[00:23] <asobi> how can i tell when it's done?
[00:23] <tekteen> you will see the line that you typed the command on
[00:24] <asobi> uh uh spoke too fast
[00:24] <tekteen> like "stephen@slap:~$"
[00:24] <tekteen> ok
[00:24] <fuhreal> Anyone know how to make eterm the default terminal instead of konsole?
[00:25] <stdin> fuhreal: system settings > default applications
[00:25] <Level15> fuhreal: kcontrol
[00:25] <Level15> stdin: yeah, that also
[00:25] <asobi> http://pastebin.com/m557f6d45
[00:25] <fuhreal> ty
[00:25] <tekteen> asobi: and... what do you want?
[00:25] <asobi> to update clamav
[00:26] <tekteen> it just did
[00:26] <tekteen> try again and pastebin that (to make sure)
[00:26] <asobi> WARNING: Clamd was NOT notified: Can't connect to clamd through /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
[00:26] <asobi>  <----??
[00:26] <tekteen> that does not matter
[00:26] <asobi> oh
[00:27] <flake> my compile if vice is complaining about missing X11/Xaw/Cardinals.h file and X11/Xaw in general
[00:27] <fuhreal> awesome irssi in borderless eterm :) love it
[00:27] <asobi> http://pastebin.com/m7918f842
[00:27] <tekteen> asobi: freshclam's messages used to freak me out :-)
[00:27] <fuhreal> now i gotta configure irssi ... sigh .. . nix takes so long to config
[00:28] <tekteen> it did york
[00:28] <tekteen> work*
[00:28] <asobi> then why does it say outdated @_@
[00:28] <asobi> very confusing
[00:28] <tekteen> outdated program
[00:28] <asobi> oh
[00:28] <tekteen> not virus files
[00:28] <asobi> maybe i should use another virus scan?
[00:28] <tekteen> note the DON'T PANIC!
[00:29] <tekteen> asobi: no
[00:29] <fuhreal> I wonder why knetworkmanager won't work but wireless assitant does ... .:|
[00:29] <tekteen> asobi: it is fine even though it is not the newest version
[00:29] <asobi> is there a gui for it?
[00:29] <tekteen> yes
[00:29] <tekteen> klamav :-)
[00:29] <asobi> should get that then
[00:30] <asobi> thanks for the help
[00:30] <tekteen> klamav will download and install the newest clamav. Although I suggest you disable that
[00:30] <tekteen> keep the one ubuntu gives you :-)
[00:31] <asobi> well i just got clamav two days ago
[00:31] <tekteen> so...?
[00:31] <asobi> so i have the newest clamav?
[00:31] <tekteen> asobi: nope
[00:31] <asobi> oh
[00:31] <asobi> how do i disable that in lamav then?
[00:32] <tekteen> when it asks tell it not to update clamav (but yes to update the database)
[00:33] <dillizar> yoyoyoyoyy
[00:33] <asobi> oh
[00:33] <dillizar> dudes
[00:33] <asobi> after i install
[00:33] <tekteen> asobi: nm
[00:33] <dillizar> any good msn messanger??
[00:33] <tekteen> if it is to confusing let it do what it wants :-)
[00:33] <asobi> ...?
[00:33] <tekteen> dillizar: I hear amsn is good
[00:33] <tekteen> dillizar: or pidgin or kopete
[00:34] <dillizar> what bout
[00:34] <dillizar> gaim
[00:34] <dillizar> :/
[00:34] <asobi> pidgin = gaim
[00:34] <tekteen> dillizar: pidgin is the newer version of gaim
[00:34] <tekteen> aol got mad about the AIM part
[00:34] <stdin> kopete is pre-installed
[00:34] <dillizar> i have it sucks
[00:34] <dillizar> meebo its better
[00:35] <tekteen> pidgin is much better then gaim
[00:35] <stdin> use which ever you feel is best
[00:35] <asobi> aol got mad over what?
[00:35] <tekteen> g-aim
[00:35] <asobi> for?
[00:35] <dillizar> but i wanna use the camera and shit
[00:35] <tekteen> aim = aol instant messager
[00:35] <stdin> !ot | I'm getting tired of doing this
[00:35] <ubotu> I'm getting tired of doing this: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:35] <stdin> dillizar: watch the language in here
[00:36] <dillizar> sorry
[00:36] <Level15> dillizar: kopete has camera support, haven't tested it
[00:37] <dillizar> no
[00:37] <dillizar> lets d/l
[00:37] <dillizar> whait
[00:37] <stdin> the enter key is not punctuation
[00:42] <chx> hi., i am trying to get a bluetooth headset working. honestly, googling just confused me , really. Seems there are two ways, the more modern is ALSA bluetooth (not sco) but I get Connection fail and i do not know how to pair to the device.
[00:44] <stdin> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[00:44] <chx> For Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) most of the instuctions below are obsolete
[00:45] <chx> so... that page does not really help.
[00:47] <stdin> if you read it, you'll see the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[00:51] <dillizar> kopete rulllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[00:51] <dillizar> now
[00:51] <dillizar> how do ya change my pic
[00:51] <Shadow_mil> pidgin > kopete
[00:51] <Dr_willis> im using xchat. :)
[00:51]  * Shadow_mil ducks
[00:52] <^u^> I second xchat
[00:53] <chx> stdin: sudo modprobe -r snd_bt_sco helped.
[00:53] <chx> stdin: confusion it was.
[00:59] <dillizar> yo how to put a pic on kooete
[01:01] <dillizar> yo how to put a pic on kopete
[01:05] <dillizar> yo how to put a pic on kopete
[01:15] <artur_> dillizar:  in the Menu Configuration-Configure-Id- and the...the tab photo
[01:16] <dillizar> i know
[01:18] <dillizar> dudes
[01:18] <dillizar> i have remove my lower bar on my ubuntu
[01:18] <Shadow_mil> points dillizar to #ubuntu
[01:19] <artur_> Hi folks, i have a kubuntu live cd, that i always used in other computer that i have. Today, i mean, now, i tried to run the live cd, i tried Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu, and after choosing Start or Instal..., the following screen is showed:
[01:19] <artur_> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash
[01:19] <artur_> Enter 'help'for a list of built-in commands.
[01:19] <artur_> (initramfs)_
[01:20] <artur_> (initramfs)_   means a command line where i can type the command help, or others.
[01:20] <artur_> as with kubuntu, the same thing happend with ubuntu and xubuntu.
[01:34] <Arwen> is there a character map in KDE?
[01:46] <Airforce5555> so yeah....the creator of the weather channel is, or is thinking about, sueing al gore for global warming fraud
[02:02] <adrock358> Hey guys.  What's up?
[02:06] <ubuntu> icq.de
[02:07] <Stoffer> I installed a newer version of pidgin over an existing version, and the command "pidgin" still runs the old version.  How do I change it?
[02:20] <isa268[FAN]> hello i keep hitting some key combination that kicks me back to the log in screen and i cant figgure it out.  anyone got a clue what combination it is?
[02:22] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarts the X server, effectively closing down KDE and restarting to the login screen
[02:24] <red_tear> can i set a other directory to be my home directory?
[02:24] <isa268[FAN]> humm... cause it happens more when i'm holding shift (to capitalize something) then backspace to undo a typeing error.  (which happens alot)   maybe i hit ctrl alt in the process is there a way to disable that its really annoying
[02:24] <hydrogen> red_tear: yes, man usermod
[02:24] <red_tear> thx hydrogen
[02:25] <Jucato> isa268[FAN]: there is that shortcut too. ctrl+alt+backspace isn't really "log out", as it really kills the X server. (so it's a dirty restart so to speak)
[02:25] <hydrogen> and by dirty he means, its similar to starting windows, taking off your computers case cover, and slamming the motherboard with a ball-peen hammer
[02:26] <Jucato> hydrogen: although ctrl+alt+backspace guarantees you'll still have a working computer :)
[02:27] <isa268[FAN]> well i just tested it :) its shift+backspace
[02:27] <hydrogen> its shift+backspace with compiz
[02:27] <hydrogen> because compiz is shift+stupid
[02:27] <hydrogen> or xgl
[02:27] <hydrogen> actualyl
[02:27] <hydrogen> not compiz
[02:27] <Arwen> Jucato, not true
[02:28] <isa268[FAN]> yes im running compiz
[02:28] <Arwen> it won't work if you kernel paniced
[02:29] <stdin> Arwen: but you won't have a shattered mobo
[02:29] <Arwen> heh
[02:30]  * Jucato wonders why restarting X would affect the kernel...
[02:30] <Arwen> Jucato, bad drm drivers
[02:30] <Arwen> and if you kernel paniced *before*
[02:31] <stdin> if your kernel panicked before then no key-combo will matter
[02:32] <isa268[FAN]> all right thanks guys i'll just try not holding shift while backspacing in the future
[02:36] <matt__> can i install yum in kubuntu?
[02:37] <Jucato> O.o
[02:37] <stdin> why would you want to?
[02:37] <isa268[FAN]> y would you want to? isnt adept or synaptic better
[02:38] <Jucato> (it has nothing to do with Adept or Synaptic though. at least not directly)
[02:38] <Arwen> matt__, you could. But it wouldn't be Kubuntu any more.
[02:38] <stdin> 'y' is not a word in the English language, and I should know, I'm English
[02:38] <matt__> im used yo yum
[02:38] <matt__> how to use apt-get?
[02:38] <stdin> !apt
[02:38] <isa268[FAN]> i thought yum was redhats packet manager
[02:38] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:42] <matt__> can kubuntu install rpms?
[02:42] <Jucato> yes, but not recommended. rpms are not debs (and vice versa) for a reason
[02:42] <stdin> not directly
[02:42] <Red_Tear> ok can anybody tell me which files exactly i need to get my old wallet and firefox settings? becouse i now changed the home directory to the one i was using befor the reinstall and got my wallet and firefox settings (like saved passwords) but now got some problems i got before the reinstall of kubuntu again...^^
[02:42] <Jucato> !rpm | matt__
[02:42] <ubotu> matt__: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:43] <matt__> ahh
[02:43] <matt__> so how would i install java
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:44] <matt__> wow ubuntu is much harder than fedora
[02:47] <stdin> Red_Tear: for firefox: ~/.mozilla/firefox for for wallet you can either copy the kwallet files from ~/.kde/share/apps and ~/.kde/share/config manually or just copy all of ~/.kde
[02:48] <matt__> is vlc player supported on kubuntu?
[02:49] <stdin> yes, it's in universe
[02:49] <Jucato> matt__: why would it be harder?
[02:49] <matt__> umm i guess im just used to it
[02:50] <Jucato> that's the issue. not the distro.
[02:50] <matt__> how do i install repositories?
[02:50] <Jucato> how would you install something in fedora? do the same in Kubuntu, just substitute the tools
[02:50] <Jucato> you don't need to. Java and VLC are in the default repositories already
[02:50] <matt__> yea.
[02:51] <Jucato> install the package "Kubuntu Restricted Extras" to get Java, Flash, codec for MP3, AVI, etc. (no WMV/WMA and encrypted DVD's though).
[02:51] <stdin> use adept, search for vlc and install the package or use apt-get and do "sudo apt-get install vlc" (yes, it's *that* easy)
[02:52] <Jucato> it's the same if you used PIRUT or yum (without having to add a repository to get it)
[02:52] <matt__> i have to type sudo everytime?
[02:52] <matt__> i cant just write apt-get install
[02:52] <stdin> !sudo
[02:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[02:52] <stdin> you're installing as root, you need sudo
[02:53] <matt__> what about "su"
[02:53] <matt__> and then password
[02:53] <stdin> there is no root password
[02:53] <stdin> use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[02:53] <Jucato> you can use "sudo -i" to login to a sudo shell
[02:53]  * stdin wins
[02:53] <stdin> and it's nearly 3am :)
[02:53] <Jucato> please see the link above to learn more about sudo
[02:53] <marjan> how can i dcc with konversation
[02:53]  * Jucato doesn't really care who wins...
[02:54] <Jucato> marjan: right-click on the nick -> Send File?
[02:54] <Jucato> stdin: sleep
[02:54]  * stdin takes that as "yes stdin, you win" ;)
[02:54] <Jucato> no, it's "I don't really care who wins" :)
[02:54] <root> hola
[02:54] <root> q tal
[02:55] <hydrogen> I win
[02:55] <hydrogen> so hush
[02:55] <matt__> root@matt-laptop:/home/matt# sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:55] <matt__> Reading package lists... Done
[02:55] <matt__> Building dependency tree
[02:55] <matt__> Reading state information... Done
[02:55] <matt__> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[02:55] <matt__> i get this every time
[02:55] <matt__> and what ever i put in that happens
[02:55] <Jucato> stdin: so exercise your victory and help matt__ :P
[02:55]  * Jucato leaves...
[02:56] <stdin> matt__: what version of kubuntu do you have
[02:56] <matt__> umm the latest one
[02:56] <stdin> and why are you using sudo when you are root? ;)
[02:57] <matt__> either way i receive the same message
[02:57] <stdin> matt__: open adept up, go to Adept -> Manager Repositories and check all the boxes, then click "Fetch Updates"
[02:57] <stdin> then you can either install VLC via adept or use apt-get (after closing Adept)
[02:58] <matt__> all the boxes on top right? like maintainer etc?
[02:58] <stdin> no, when you're in Adept go to the Adept menu and click on Manage Repositories
[02:59] <stdin> then you'll get another window with some tabs
[03:00] <matt__> kk
[03:00] <matt__> should i leave it as main server?
[03:00] <stdin> you should select them all (the "sources" one is optional)
[03:00] <stdin> you can choose a local server if you want, or the main one
[03:00] <matt__> thanks alot
[03:01] <matt__> im updating them right now
[03:01] <stdin> np :)
[03:02] <matt__> so everysoftware is oon those repos?
[03:02] <matt__> wow it works
[03:02] <zefyr> anyone know of a way to install kubuntu from a usb stick <im having trouble w my CDwriter>
[03:02] <matt__> thanks guys
[03:03] <stdin> not every thing that everyone has ever written, but a lot of packages
[03:03] <stdin> !install | zefyr
[03:03] <ubotu> zefyr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:03] <zefyr> thanks
[03:04] <matt__> what's zefyr?
[03:04] <stdin> matt__: another user in here
[03:04] <basy> what can i use for editing CSS in kubuntu?
[03:04] <hydrogen> kate
[03:05] <Arwen> basy, vim
[03:08] <matt__> does anyone know of a good fics client besides JIN?
[03:10] <matt__> add ch
[03:11] <matt__> is there a fics channel?
[03:13] <stdin> don't think so
[03:14] <rootsnatch> I am having a problem with deleting items on samba shares
[03:19] <naccis> whos got the patience to help a newb
[03:20] <rootsnatch> naccis: me
[03:20] <naccis> cool
[03:21] <naccis> anyway im trying to install a program from a tarbal i have no idea what im doing
[03:21] <rootsnatch> ok
[03:21] <rootsnatch> install as in compile?
[03:22] <naccis> well i just downloaded all the parts of beryl
[03:22] <rootsnatch> why are you using beryl?
[03:22] <naccis> is there something better?
[03:22] <rootsnatch> yes let me look up the how to for it
[03:22] <rootsnatch> one second
[03:22] <Jucato> beryl is practically dead. it has merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion
[03:22] <rootsnatch> compiz fusion is what you want
[03:23] <Jucato> !compiz | naccis
[03:23] <ubotu> naccis: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:23] <naccis> wow sweet ill check that thanks
[03:23] <rootsnatch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601310
[03:23] <rootsnatch> I used that as well and that worked brilliantly
[03:24] <rootsnatch> what graphics card do you have?
[03:24] <MrJoey> If I'm not mistaken:  beryl was a fork of compiz that proved to be more powerful than the latter.  Then, beryl was merged back into compiz, and community-supported plugins were deemed "compiz-fusion".
[03:24] <rootsnatch> ya i think it was something like that
[03:25] <naccis> intel 945
[03:25] <naccis> laptop
[03:26] <rootsnatch> that should work
[03:26] <rootsnatch> I think
[03:26] <rootsnatch> it might be a tad slow
[03:26] <naccis> hey while i got ya here any thoughts why warcraft crashes my system periodically?
[03:26] <Jucato> MrJoey: beryl forked from compiz. the two re-merged forming compiz-fusion. beryl plugins have become part of compiz-extras
[03:27] <rootsnatch> warcraft as in WoW? I have no idea re you using the opengl stuff?
[03:27] <naccis> yeah...
[03:27] <naccis> thats ok
[03:27] <naccis> ill figure that one out
[03:27] <MrJoey> I thought compiz-fusion was some plugins and compiz was part of the merge too.
[03:28] <naccis> but do you guys know of any working joystiick to mouse progs
[03:28] <MrJoey> So are you saying 'compiz-fusion' contains a different executable for compiz than 'compiz' does?
[03:28] <rootsnatch> i think it has different extensions for it
[03:28] <naccis> sorry so many questions but ive been struggleing all day
[03:28] <rootsnatch> but pretty much yes
[03:29] <Jucato> compiz-fusion is the name of the project afaik
[03:29] <MrJoey> I think I did have to install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra to get more plugins like enhanced zoom
[03:29] <naccis> Thanks for the info guys
[03:29] <rootsnatch> what is your guys' favorite compiz plugin?
[03:29] <Jucato> ah wait, it was beryl and compiz-extras that was merged. so beryl is in compiz-extras.. anyway...
[03:30] <Jucato> discussion for #compiz-fusion not here ;)
[03:31] <MrJoey> Okay, so compiz and beryl merged to become Red Hat, and the squirrel jumped over the Novell to fly the eskimo kernel.  I think I got it now :)
[03:45] <jerbear> is there a way to get information about the display (number of monitors, screen size, etc) from the command line or dcop?
[03:47] <kadam> jerbear: I can't specifically help you, but xrandr may be a good search term...
[03:48] <jerbear> yeh, i'm familiar with xrandr. i was hoping to find a way with dcop so i could use it in python
[03:48] <kadam> ahh, sorry...
[03:48] <jerbear> kadam: np, i appreciate the help :)
[03:54] <matt__> help
[03:54] <maduser> with?
[03:54] <matt__> trying to type the help command
[03:54] <maduser> --help?
[03:55] <matt__> do i put in commands here?
[03:55] <maduser> for the bot?
[03:55] <maduser> or your own scripts?
[03:55] <matt__> no idea
[03:55] <maduser> !help
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[03:55] <matt__> never mind
[03:55] <matt__> what does "!" do?
[03:55] <matt__> !help
[03:56] <Hirvinen> !bot > matt__
[03:56] <maduser> it calls the bot
[03:56] <matt__> ahh
[03:56] <matt__> cool thanks
[03:56] <matt__> was IRC always free?
[03:57] <Hirvinen> What do you mean by free?
[03:57] <matt__> that we dont have to pay for it
[03:57] <matt__> or is that only on linux?
[03:58] <maduser> its all over
[03:58] <matt__> what's all over?
[03:58] <Hirvinen> I've never heard of anybody offering irc as a paid service.
[03:58] <matt__> ahh
[03:58] <matt__> well maybe it something else im thinking off
[04:00] <kuatous> hey is anyone having issues with the the 7.10 cd not loading the security debs
[04:02] <kuatous> anyone at all
[04:03] <matt__> is there a chess channel?
[04:03] <matt__> !bot
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[04:06] <kuatous> elp please
[04:06] <Hirvinen> matt__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=freenode
[04:07] <Hirvinen> !ask | kuatous
[04:07] <ubotu> kuatous: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:08] <kuatous> i am having issues with my kubuntu CD it won't load the security debs
[04:09] <Hirvinen> Please be more specific?
[04:09] <matt__> #hack
[04:10] <matt__> take care people
[04:11] <kuatous> it says that it cant load when it gets to the point of loading it in the OS loading prossess and then says it will document and that i should look up the issue
[04:18] <kuatous> ok no luck so um the to gutsy update gets half way through literally and then it stops closes adept, it won't open again and crashes the OS permanently to the point of having to reload it
[04:24] <kevin__> !ghost
[04:24] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[04:28] <kuatous> guess that means no one knows
[04:28] <maduser> what?
[04:31] <kuatous> uh when i update gutsy through adept it gets about 50% and then adept dissapears and when i try to open again it doesn't respond and when i restart i get an error that say a piece of the OS is missing and it won't load up
[04:34] <klobster> hey when did apt-get acquire "tab" autocomplete for uninstalled packages?
[04:36] <kuatous> dunno
[04:39] <kuatous> whoohoo Yay help
[04:40] <maduser> adpet error?
[04:40] <kuatous> yeup that crashes my OS
[04:41] <maduser> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:46] <kuatous> does nothin
[04:48] <maduser> do you know what to do with it?
[04:51] <arrrghhh> hey all.  i need help on a few fronts... first, can i login to a machine remotely with x11vnc?  i see instructions on how to set it up with gdm, but nothing for kdm.  second, and *maybe* easier... audio doesn't seem to work on this laptop, but kmix has the proper mixer and i can change the volume but no effect...
[04:53] <BluesKaj> arrrghhh, check 'alsamixer' in the konsole
[04:57] <arrrghhh> BluesKaj, what should i check?  looks fine to me.
[05:01] <BluesKaj> no mutes on the master, pcm & line
[05:01] <BluesKaj> M=mute
[05:03] <arrrghhh> no M's.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> arrrghhh,  open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply
[05:10] <BluesKaj> it's late here ...bedtime ....nite all
[05:38] <cheeby> hi.  is there a way to configure kdm4?
[05:38] <cheeby> it's all grayed out.
[05:39] <cheeby> I'd like to be able to change the background and logo.
[05:48] <sigma_1234> is flash working again?
[06:11] <oren> Can anyone help me with my sound problem
[06:12] <nite613> I currently run Gutsy w/ KDE, OSS kernel modules, and running artsd. Can I easily switch that setup to alsa?
[06:12] <nite613> ahhh sound
[06:12] <nite613> !alsa
[06:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:12] <oren> ive so close to going back to windows, linux is a terrible experience
[06:12] <oren> it sounds all sped up
[06:13] <oren> when i reboot its fine but if i acidently run vlc prob it gets all fucked up
[06:13] <oren> and with video files no sound at all
[06:13] <oren> wtf
[06:14] <oren> can anyone help?
[06:15] <khussein> Hey guys. How do I make kubuntu to detect my video card and install the right driver?
[06:20] <Red_Tear> hi
[06:32] <clsk> If I install the alpha version will I be able to upgrade to the beta and then to the final release without having to reinstall?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> clsk, with a lot of luck and a little patience, probably
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> that's more a question for #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <clsk> I'll try there
[06:35] <clsk> thanks
[06:47] <BoeBoe> anybody alive?
[06:57] <sentralpas> tes
[06:58] <nishant> hello
[06:58] <nishant> i ran the update
[06:58] <sentralpas> hello juga
[06:58] <sentralpas> hello juga
[06:59] <nishant> i have kubuntu 7.10, i ran updates but after reboot its giving me error 15: file not found
[07:00] <nishant> after that i changed the grub from hd(1,0) to hd(0,0) but then its showing me error 17: cannot mount selected partition
[07:01] <nishant> please help me what to do
[07:01] <nishant> its my development machine my entire code is in this machine
[07:02] <nishant> it will be a huge loss for me if it will not start
[07:06] <nishant> can somebody help me figure out what will be the problem
[07:07] <keeper> nishant, I'm not sure what can be done about the error 17/15 but if worst comes to worst you could boot the livecd and copy all your data off
[07:08] <keeper> also, changing the bios boot order might help though
[07:09] <keeper> i
[07:09] <keeper> 've had had error 15/17 before and changing the boot order of the hdd's gets rid of it
[07:10] <nishant> can u tell me exactly how you did it
[07:11] <keeper> when booting up, going into bios settings, then in boot priority, changing the order that my hdd's boot
[07:11] <nishant> i already have HDD my first bootup preference
[07:12] <nishant> is there any thing else i have to do
[07:12] <keeper> though each bios is usually pretty different, try reading your motherboard manual if you have any problems
[07:12] <keeper> ohh, so you only have one hdd ?
[07:12] <nishant> ya
[07:13] <nishant> and its detecting it, as its showing me os] selection menu
[07:13] <nishant> but after that its showing me error 15
[07:14] <keeper> http://www.xvpj.net/?p=46
[07:19] <keeper> sorry, http://www.xvpj.net/?p=46 was a link to someone with a similar sounding problem, and how they fixed it
[07:19] <nishant> its same link as above
[07:21] <keeper> yeah, just explaining what it was, as the URL doesn't give much info on it
[07:22] <nishant> ok thanks
[07:23] <nishant> will let u knw as i m trying to fix it with live cd
[07:24] <keeper> oki, good luck
[07:28] <keeper> I'm still having problems booting kubuntu, or even booting the livecd, after the kubuntu loading splash screen the screen will go black for a few seconds, then switch to a black screen with thick grey horizontal lines across screen with a cursor at the top left of the screen
[07:29] <nishant> u may need to edit x.org
[07:29] <nishant> manually
[07:29] <keeper> Ctrl F1 will bring up a terminal fine, but any commands entered will be unresponsive and will only show if i switch to a different terminal then switch back
[07:30] <keeper> someone said it might be to do with frame buffer, but adding the "nofb" setting under kernal in grub doesn't do anything
[07:34] <tysine> hello, i am having some serious issues with knetmanager. is there an expert in the house?
[07:43] <nishant> thanks we r now done with our problem
[07:43] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[07:49] <MacKulkin> anybody knows how to make a streaming server on linux using ipcam ?
[07:49] <Respatix> can anyone give the line i type into terminal to download and install azureus?
[07:50] <Respatix> MacKulkin: the only i know would be to us linuxmce.  sorry if im not supposed to say that in here
[07:51] <MacKulkin> Respatix linuxmce?
[07:51] <Respatix> linuxmce.org
[07:51] <Respatix> wiki.linuxmce.com
[07:52] <Respatix> check it out linux media center addition is made for among other things security and ip cameras
[07:53] <MacKulkin> kk
[07:53] <MacKulkin> thx
[07:53] <MacKulkin> !
[07:54] <Respatix> MacKulkin: heres the video demo i think http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829
[07:58] <Fujisan> Respatix
[07:58] <Fujisan> are you kidding
[07:58] <Fujisan> whats so special about linux MCE
[07:58] <MacKulkin> i have 6.06LTS and am trying to install webmin i used the command wget but when am trying to dpkg it, it is giving me the following needed libauthen-pam-perl libmd5-perl  but when i am trying to apt-get them its giving me no installation  candidate
[07:58] <Fujisan> this brit acts as if it's a holodeck lmao
[08:00] <Fujisan> Respatix why does it need to know what room you are in?
[08:00] <Fujisan> i don't get it?
[08:00] <Respatix> fujisan: it doesnt need to know
[08:00] <Fujisan> why is that option built in
[08:00] <Fujisan> i mean
[08:00] <Respatix> its just an extra feuture
[08:01] <Respatix> so it can pull up just your media
[08:01] <Respatix> as opposed to anther user in the house
[08:02] <Respatix> you can set up security to inform you on your cell if someone not auth goes into a certain room
[08:02] <Fujisan> i prefer media portal
[08:02] <Respatix> user can be identified by their bluetooth cell phone that they are carrying
[08:03] <Respatix> there are a lot of great programs and platforms. i'll have to check out media portal
[08:03] <Fujisan> its an opensource MCE for xp
[08:03] <Fujisan> lol
[08:04] <Respatix> The thing that i think differentiates linuxmce is that it is whole home automation
[08:05] <Respatix> it can control lighting, securtity, media, heating , ac, sprinklers, almost anything
[08:05] <Fujisan> yeah if you have the shit for that
[08:05] <Fujisan> most people dont have all that stuff though
[08:05] <Fujisan> anbd beverly hill people arent likely to use linux
[08:05] <Respatix> commercial install that can do the same thing cost tens of thousands of dollars
[08:05] <Fujisan> MCE
[08:05] <Fujisan> lol
[08:05] <Respatix> no its not very expensive
[08:06] <Fujisan> it is to have all that lighting and security and sprinkler and heating systems
[08:06] <Respatix> you can use existing computer hardware
[08:06] <Fujisan> i have non of all that
[08:06] <Fujisan> i have wireless router thats it
[08:06] <Respatix> and then buy devices that you want to connect
[08:06] <Fujisan> and a cellphone
[08:06] <Fujisan> lol
[08:07] <Respatix> i picked up 4 lighting modules at compusa on 90% off clearance
[08:07] <Fujisan> if i would get a automatic lighting system i would get one with motion detector so it will just put on the light when it detects motion
[08:07] <Respatix> thats an idea
[08:08] <Respatix> but you can set up senarios so lights dim when start watching movie or light turn on at sunset
[08:09] <Fujisan> philips r&d and others are working on ambient intelligence http://www.research.philips.com/technologies/syst_softw/ami/background.html
[08:10] <Fujisan> but we are far from that
[08:10] <Fujisan> i occupy one room at a time and its easier to do it manual
[08:11] <Fujisan> i live alone so i have no use for automatic lighting
[08:11] <Respatix> i understand
[08:11] <Respatix> its not for everyone
[08:12] <Respatix> its what ive chose to work on
[08:12] <Respatix> i like it
[08:13] <Fujisan> and i have a Wii for browsing the web in my living room
[08:13] <Ukonpoika> Umm. #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:13] <Fujisan> and a eee pc from Asus
[08:13] <Respatix> i like that it automatically downloads flikr photos and has them transitioning behind the menus when no other media is playing.  so always fullscreen media on my 52" lcd
[08:13] <Fujisan> to have all my multimedia everywhere in the house
[08:14] <Respatix> yep i needed a solution to have media accessible in all rooms
[08:14] <Ukonpoika> Fujisan, Respatix: #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:15] <Respatix> Ukonpoika: sorry
[08:15] <ForgeAus> agh eeepc! no thanx
[08:15] <ForgeAus> I do like ASUS tho
[08:15] <Fujisan> who has all that shit in their house Respatix
[08:15] <Fujisan> lol
[08:16] <Fujisan> i can control my neighbors devices via blue tooth lol
[08:16] <Fujisan> linux mce cant do that D:
[08:17] <ForgeAus> Fujisan sounds dangerous
[08:17] <ForgeAus> remotely controlling devices can be a big security problem
[08:17] <Fujisan> yeah
[08:17] <Fujisan> exactly
[08:18] <Respatix> Fujisan: a lot of people can now
[08:19] <Fujisan> i know
[08:19] <Fujisan> my blue tooth headset has 30 meters reach
[08:19] <Fujisan> i have a pc zapper for media center
[08:21] <Fujisan> i wasnt aware of the fact that some people have fully automated homes
[08:22] <Fujisan> i still live in the stone age :(
[08:23] <keeper> ForgeAus, was it you who suggested turning off frame buffer to solve display problem yesterday ?
[08:23] <Fujisan>  אחד
[08:23] <ForgeAus> I hightly doubt it
[08:23] <ForgeAus> I barely even know what a framebuffer is!
[08:24] <keeper> oki, sorry bout that then ^.^
[08:24] <ForgeAus> I was, however making suggestions (unless someone got their lines crossed it was unlikely I was talking to you keeper, that being said we have chatted before)
[08:24] <Respatix> Fujisan: i wasnt aware either, and im not even close to there, i just want lighting control in the living and the bedroom, ya know to impress my friends :)
[08:25] <ForgeAus> why what happened?
[08:25] <Fujisan> yeah i saw a guy on paltalk he was showing of his new tv its on an hydrolic electronic arm that comes from under the bed pretty high tech he paid 10k usd for it
[08:25] <Respatix> this guy up in calgary has everything on automation though
[08:26] <Respatix> yipes 10k
[08:26] <Fujisan> yeah but it looked really cool
[08:26] <vzduch> *omfg*
[08:26] <Fujisan> huge tv
[08:26] <Kano> Riddell: why is the standard kubuntu always broken - at least the bootlogo. nothing could be selected
[08:26] <keeper> Respatix, again, #kubuntu-offtopic would be the place to talk
[08:26] <Kano> Riddell: the daily snapshots i mean...
[08:27] <Respatix> fujisan, do you want to go over to #kubuntu-offtopic or are we done?
[08:27] <ForgeAus> hmm I must have got dissed
[08:27] <ForgeAus> as I was saying keeper, what happened?
[08:27] <klobster> so anyone working with gutsy/zoneminder/phillips snc900?  I am having issue...
[08:28] <keeper> I might just repost what i asked above ?
[08:28] <Fujisan> i think IRC should have a bot that acts as a buffer so when i send something offtopic i end in #kubuntu-offtopic automagically and if i say something on topic of kubuntu i will be directed to #kubuntu
[08:28] <Fujisan> i mean can't you code that keeper
[08:28] <klobster> keeper: I should go to offtopic?
[08:28] <Fujisan> you seem knowledgeable enough
[08:29] <keeper> I'm still having problems booting kubuntu, or even booting the livecd, after the kubuntu loading splash screen the screen will go black for a few seconds, then switch to a black screen with thick grey horizontal lines across screen with a cursor at the top left of the screen
[08:29] <Fujisan> black screens are offtopic also keeper
[08:29] <Fujisan> go to #blackscreens
[08:29] <Kano> maybe remove the splash option
[08:29] <ForgeAus> Fujisan? seriously?
[08:30] <ForgeAus> sounds like an X-server misconfiguration to me
[08:30] <Fujisan> start X keeper
[08:30] <klobster> keeper: boot to the rescue kernel, log in run startx, and return with the stdout
[08:30] <keeper> startx doesn't work
[08:30] <ForgeAus> theres always that xserver-xorg reconfigure dpkg line that I never quite remember
[08:31] <Kano> keeper: also you can select vesa fallback mode when you use the live cd
[08:31] <klobster> keeper: how does it "not work"
[08:31] <Fujisan> do what klobster said keeper
[08:31] <Respatix> forgeaus: i have a kubuntu ? i just installed azureus on kubuntu and was doing the setup and azureus disappeared.  Everytime i try to open it again it starts loading and then disappears.  any ideas?
[08:31] <keeper> yeah the dpkg-reconfigure doesn't work either
[08:31] <vzduch> Respatix: use KTorrent ;)
[08:31] <ForgeAus> Respatix perhaps it would be easier to find out whats going on if you run it from konsole
[08:31] <klobster> keeper: entirely different issues.  Once again: how does it NOT work?
[08:32] <klobster> Respatix: check systray?
[08:32] <Respatix> vzduch: i was using ktorrent just an hour ago and for some reason it was just too slow
[08:32] <keeper> I can boot up kubuntu and write all the error msgs down if that will help
[08:33] <ForgeAus> argh I hate torrentz :(
[08:33] <Respatix> klobster: im kind of a linux noob.  how do i check systray
[08:33] <Fujisan> so does the RIAA fophillips
[08:33] <klobster> keeper: i would appreciate that (I believe that was my first suggestion).
[08:33] <Fujisan> ForgeAus*
[08:33] <ForgeAus> Respatix the system tray is an area of your taskbar (in KDE its called kicker)
[08:34] <Fujisan> may i ask a kubuntu question...
[08:34] <klobster> Respatix: see the clock?  any small icons, or "pictures" there? (not trying to be rude, but not sure how n00b you are)
[08:34] <klobster> !ask
[08:34] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:34] <ForgeAus> some icons like the yellow box of adept to show theres updates, a clipboard called klicker and a speaker are common icons for the system tray
[08:34] <Fujisan> Ok here i go.,... on topic... kubuntu.....i need an alarm clock for kubuntu the builtin alarmclock isnt working for me
[08:35] <Fujisan> i have no audio
[08:35] <klobster> Fujisan: what do you need, a light based alarm?
[08:35] <Respatix> klobster: np simple step by step is better than way complex over the head.   but yep im familiar w that area and the little frog is not there
[08:35] <ForgeAus> perhaps you should get someone to assist you with audio, I've never had sound in Kubuntu personally, (not that I need/want it)
[08:35] <Fujisan> no an alarm clock to wake up in  the morning
[08:36] <keeper> sorry, i think i misunderstood the question, when in rescue mode,then startx, i will get the same blank screen
[08:36] <Fujisan> my external alarm clock broke
[08:36] <Fujisan> after a decade
[08:36] <klobster> Respatix: I don't think it is a frog in linux, anyone else confirm?
[08:36] <Fujisan> so for the interval i need to use my pc
[08:36] <klobster> Fujisan: so you DO have sound on your PC?
[08:36] <ziggggggy> hey klobster!
[08:36] <Fujisan> yes
[08:37] <klobster> ziggggggy: hey hey!
[08:37] <Respatix> klobster: all i have in systray is klipper, audio , and kopoteeee
[08:37] <Fujisan> whats the command to start the builtin alarm clock via Konsole?
[08:39] <klobster> Respatix: try kmenu, run and type in ps
[08:39] <klobster> Fujisan: cron?
[08:39] <klobster> keeper: any luck?
[08:39] <Respatix> ForgeAus: ok i ran azureus in konsole and can the errors
[08:40] <Respatix> doesnt help me fix it though
[08:40] <keeper> klobster: luck with what ?
[08:41] <klobster> keeper: when you run startx it goes to a black screen and stays there?
[08:42] <keeper> no, it stays black for a few seconds, then the screen turns black with thick horizontal grey lines across the screen, with a cursor in the top left of the screen
[08:43] <NoiseK> Anyone leet at configuring ssh tunnels?
[08:44] <jack> ;
[08:45] <klobster> keeper: ctrl -c or ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-- dont change the state?
[08:46] <klobster> Fujisan: alarms are in adept, goto kmenu, system adept manager, and search on alarm.  else put a command to play a file at X time in cron.
[08:46] <keeper> I can't check atm, I'm dual booting windows on the same computer
[08:47] <klobster> keeper: there is little i can do without the error msgs.
[08:48] <keeper> yeah, sorry for making it so difficult, I'll see if i can borrow someones computer, brb
[08:48] <Fujisan> how do i use superkaramba i installed a widget but i dont know how to run it?
[08:50] <klobster> Respatix: did you run ps?
[08:52] <Seldaek> hello, I just installed and it kind of ruined my windows partition.. well it's still there but I can't boot on it, because it's a goddamn laptop with a factory "recovery partition" and I think grub thought that was my windows one
[08:52] <Seldaek> so is there an easy way to tell it to add another partition as a "windows boot" ?
[08:53] <sanitarium> hi all
[08:53] <sanitarium> any1 tried kde4
[08:54] <sanitarium> help plz
[08:55] <sanitarium> any1 tried kde4
[08:55] <Respatix> what command do i use in terminal to uninstall a program like azureus
[08:55] <CheGuevara> sanitarium, yeah what about it
[08:55] <sanitarium> apt-get remove azureus
[08:55] <Respatix> thanks
[08:55] <sanitarium> is it stable
[08:55] <sanitarium> u r welcome
[08:55] <Respatix> no
[08:56] <Respatix> azureus isnt stable
[08:56] <Respatix> but that not what you were asking was it
[08:56] <sanitarium> i mean kde4
[08:56] <CheGuevara> lol
[08:56] <CheGuevara> stable enough for me
[08:56] <CheGuevara> use it as my only DE
[08:57] <sanitarium> do i have to remove kde 3.5.8
[08:57] <CheGuevara> nah
[08:57] <CheGuevara> u can have both
[08:57] <keeper__> ok i'm on a different computer now
[08:57] <sanitarium> but the interface is better then kde3
[08:58] <keeper__> I'm rebooting the computer atm, boot into recovery mode and startx ?
[08:58] <sanitarium> is there any difference in apps
[08:59] <luisd> hi
[08:59] <sanitarium> hi
[08:59] <luisd> where are you from?
[08:59] <Respatix> how do you turn on dht in ktorrent?
[09:00] <sanitarium> enable dht networks
[09:00] <Respatix> what menu is that in i cant seem to find it
[09:00] <klobster> keeper__: yeah
[09:01] <keeper__> startx seems to have worked, though one of two screens still has the grey screen problem, while the other has gone as it should have
[09:01]  * keeper__ face palm
[09:01] <sanitarium> in settings
[09:01] <sanitarium> u ll find general options
[09:01] <keeper__> i think it was because i have two screens, and the second screen was turned off
[09:02] <klobster> Dual screens?  should have mentioned that first.  how did you set up dual screen to begin with?
[09:02] <keeper__> i didn't, it's a fresh install
[09:02] <sanitarium> did u found it
[09:03] <keeper__> well technically it wasn't dual screens as the second screen has been off through the install and when trying to boot
[09:03] <klobster> gotcha.  can you log in on one of the screens?
[09:04] <keeper__> yeah everything seems to be fine, though only on one screen
[09:05] <sanitarium> i have problems starting compiz fusion on kubuntu
[09:05] <sanitarium> it wont start
[09:06] <klobster> keeper__: sounds like the problem was you had the wrong screen turned on?  let's log in and see if we can't set up the other screen.
[09:06] <sanitarium> does any1 know wats maybe the cause
[09:06] <Respatix> why doesnt the prefrences menu in ktorrent have a scroll bar.  I cant get down to see the bottom section of the menu as it goes below the bottom of my screen?
[09:06] <klobster> Fujisan: are you fixed?
[09:07] <keeper__> yeah seems like it was *sigh*, how embarrasing lol
[09:07] <klobster> keeper__: it happens : )
[09:07] <klobster> Respatix: did you find azeurous in ps?
[09:08] <keeper__> thanks, much appreciated , i think i can get the rest set up from here
[09:08] <klobster> Respatix: doh! I think I meant kpm, not ps, sorry!
[09:08] <klobster> keeper__:  cool.  Good luck!
[09:09] <sanitarium> how to setup itunes
[09:10] <Respatix> klobster: no i ran azureus from terminal and it is crashing on startup
[09:10] <klobster> sanitarium: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[09:10] <Respatix> An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[09:10] <Respatix> SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00000000, pid=25975, tid=3084999568
[09:11] <Respatix> Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.6.0_03-b05 mixed mode, sharing)
[09:12] <Respatix> roblematic frame: C  0x00000000
[09:14] <sanitarium> compiz fusion woooooooooooooooooooont start and i dont know why
[09:14] <ForgeAus> keeper I'm glad your problem is fixed :)
[09:14] <sanitarium> thnx klobster
[09:14] <ForgeAus> wait he's gone?
[09:14] <MikeyLDS> hey guys
[09:14] <MikeyLDS> am new to linux and kubuntu and would like some help :P
[09:15] <ForgeAus> Mikey just ask your question
[09:15] <sanitarium> guys plz
[09:15] <MikeyLDS> i saw a guide on how to install compiz fusion earlier on the ubuntu website but can no longer find it :(
[09:15] <ForgeAus> !compiz
[09:15] <MikeyLDS> it was a guide using terminal
[09:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:15] <sanitarium> i have it already installed
[09:15] <ForgeAus> (theres a #compiz-fusion channel too
[09:16] <MikeyLDS> woot, chears man, bookmarked :)
[09:16] <MikeyLDS> yes, thanks :)
[09:16] <sanitarium> but every time i try to enable it nothing happens
[09:16] <MikeyLDS> i bet loads of peeps ask the same questions over and over :P
[09:16] <ForgeAus> sanitarium first steps first
[09:16] <MikeyLDS> you trued this ... compiz --replace
[09:16] <ForgeAus> for mikey getting it is the first step
[09:16] <Seldaek> dammit, how do I add a font ? =)
[09:16] <ForgeAus> for you.. I don't quite know
[09:17] <ForgeAus> does compiz replace kwin?
[09:17] <klobster> sanitarium: what'd i do?
[09:17] <sanitarium> i already did the replace command
[09:17] <sanitarium> by the way
[09:17] <sanitarium> am using kde
[09:19] <MikeyLDS> is there a way to copy and paste into terminal?
[09:20] <klobster> MikeyLDS: highlight, middleclick
[09:20] <MikeyLDS> hmm, ta :)
[09:20] <MikeyLDS> hadn't thought of that :D
[09:20] <sanitarium> yes
[09:20] <sanitarium> control v
[09:20] <Ayabara> when I start a kubuntu and compiz, all the stuff that should have been in the taskbar comes up as windows in the taskbar. known problem?
[09:20] <klobster> MikeyLDS: unless you are switching screens (ctrl-alt-fX), then you are screwed
[09:24] <MikeyLDS> xgl not present ... any ideas?
[09:29] <ForgeAus> Mikey what video card do you have?
[09:29] <ForgeAus> and sanituarium if your still here try #compiz-fusion they're more likely to be able to help you than I can
[09:32] <Ayabara> what's a kbfxtheme?
[09:33] <ForgeAus> kbfx is an alternate kmenu
[09:33] <Dekans> it's 'skinnable'
[09:33] <ForgeAus> if you have KDE4 I doubt it applies (it may do I'm not sure)... if you have KDE3.x you can get a program kbfs thats yes skinnable
[09:35] <Ayabara> ah. I have kde3.x and I'm trying to install my first theme. after installing a .ktheme, where should I be able to find it and activate it?
[09:36] <Dekans> kbfx is a kicker applet
[09:36] <ForgeAus> um you change it in the config for kbfx
[09:36] <ForgeAus> Dekans that makes sense I forgot about that
[09:37] <ForgeAus> ok ayabara, rightclick your kicker and add an applet to the panel
[09:37] <ForgeAus> kbfx should be there
[09:37] <Dekans> ForgeAus: it wa sconfusing for me when i tried it :p
[09:37] <ForgeAus> hehe Dekans I remember I didn't want it for some reason thats probably why, baghira is very similar
[09:37] <ForgeAus> (although there more to baghira theme than just the menu applet)
[09:38] <Ayabara> ForgeAus: actually I don't need the kbfx theme then. just wondere what it was. I downloaded the stuff from here http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/kollide?content=75295, and have no idea how to install them all :-)
[09:39] <Ayabara> And not I lost the will to install it. Anyone got a good theme to recommend?
[09:40] <MikeyLDS> ForgeAus: mind if I pm ya?
[09:40] <MikeyLDS> in answer to your question before
[09:40] <MikeyLDS> nvidia 8800
[09:41] <ForgeAus> actually kollide looks kewl only that I don't like so much black
[09:41] <ForgeAus> wait mikey before you do
[09:41] <ForgeAus> !nvidia
[09:41] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:41] <ForgeAus> (also if your not registered then pm's don't work on freenode
[09:41] <ForgeAus> but other than that feel free)
[09:42] <MikeyLDS> is there a restricted driver manager in kubunu?
[09:42] <MikeyLDS> i haven't been able to find it so far
[09:42] <Dekans> yes
[09:42] <ForgeAus> a restricted driver manager?
[09:42] <Dekans> hardware drivers manager
[09:42] <MikeyLDS> System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu .
[09:42] <Dekans> in K > System
[09:42] <MikeyLDS> thats for ubuntu
[09:42] <MikeyLDS> for for my nooblike Q's
[09:43] <MikeyLDS> and VERY new to linux lol
[09:43] <ForgeAus> hhe Mikey I'm not all that un-n00b as you might expect
[09:43] <MikeyLDS> what is the k equivalent?
[09:44] <MikeyLDS> i'd install ubuntu instead of kubuntu but I have run otu of dvd's :/
[09:44] <Dekans> K is the 'main' menu
[09:44] <ForgeAus> if you have ubuntu you can morph it into kubuntu easily enough
[09:44] <ForgeAus> just apt-get the kubuntu-desktop package
[09:44] <Dekans> the equivalent on 'start' menu in windows
[09:44] <MikeyLDS> lol, i know that bit
[09:44] <ForgeAus> (and if you want remove the gnome stuff as per
[09:44] <ForgeAus> !puregnome
[09:44] <ubotu> If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[09:44] <ForgeAus> wait
[09:45] <MikeyLDS> oooh
[09:45] <ForgeAus> !purekde
[09:45] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[09:45] <MikeyLDS> that would be handy
[09:45] <MikeyLDS> as all the guides are for gnome
[09:45] <ForgeAus> actually most of the guides work for both systems
[09:45] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: just look to system-settings, restricted drivers is there
[09:45] <ForgeAus> since the underlying OS is the same
[09:45] <MikeyLDS> lol, yet I can't find that requisition manager thing
[09:45] <prince_jammys> don't dump kde because of restricted drivers, kde has it also
[09:46] <MikeyLDS> prince_jammys: i priomise it's not! lol
[09:46] <Seldaek> any idea where I can get updated packages for php5 ? (i.e. php5.2.5 packages)
[09:46] <MikeyLDS> same menu as adept manager?
[09:46] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: look in "advanced"
[09:46] <Seldaek> I'd rather not compile from source I'm in a bit of a hurry
[09:47] <Seldaek> is there an "unstable" repo where I can get the latest stuff for ubuntu ?
[09:47] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: type "restricted" in the box at the top of system-settings, and then move to the tab "advanced" and it will be highlighted
[09:47] <prince_jammys> try doing that in gnome :)
[09:47]  * MikeyLDS bangs his head on his desk
[09:47] <MikeyLDS> wtf am i missing here
[09:47] <prince_jammys> is it not there?
[09:47] <MikeyLDS> lol, jo
[09:47] <MikeyLDS> no
[09:48] <prince_jammys> mmm
[09:48] <prince_jammys> maybe you have to install something. i show it in mine
[09:48] <MikeyLDS> can't i just install it via terminal or adept?
[09:48] <prince_jammys> this is restricted drivers for your video?
[09:49] <MikeyLDS> whats the package name?
[09:49] <prince_jammys> !restricted
[09:49] <MikeyLDS> i know I have the nvidia stuff installed
[09:49] <prince_jammys> where's the bot?
[09:49] <MikeyLDS> lol
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <MikeyLDS> i scared it off! :P
[09:50] <prince_jammys> !binary
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <MikeyLDS> hmmm
[09:50] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: is it for a video card?
[09:51] <MikeyLDS> according to adept I have linux restricted modules 2.6.~~~~ installed
[09:51] <MikeyLDS> nvidia 8800
[09:51] <prince_jammys> did you look in the guides?
[09:51] <MikeyLDS> lol, yep
[09:51] <prince_jammys> (restricted stuff can be annoying in both gnome and kde, btw)
[09:51] <MikeyLDS> i may be missing xgl
[09:51] <prince_jammys> you're not allowed to leave kde because of this :)
[09:52] <MikeyLDS> lol
[09:52] <MikeyLDS> why do peeps love and hate kde/gnome?
[09:52] <prince_jammys> because we're crazy
[09:52] <MikeyLDS> well I can believe that :P
[09:52] <prince_jammys> i assume you did ...
[09:52] <prince_jammys> !nvidia
[09:52] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <MikeyLDS> LOL
[09:54] <MikeyLDS> The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Restricted Driver Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu .
[09:54] <MikeyLDS> still trying to find restricted drivers
[09:55] <prince_jammys> !info restricted-manager-kde
[09:55] <ubotu> restricted-manager-kde (source: restricted-manager): manage non-free hardware drivers - KDE frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 288 kB
[09:55] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: install that^
[09:56] <MikeyLDS> it already is :/
[09:56] <MikeyLDS> am in adept at the mo
[09:56] <MikeyLDS> but I still don;t see it in the k menu
[09:56] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: try running it from terminal:  restricted-manager-kde
[09:56] <MikeyLDS> k >>> system >>> whats next?
[09:56] <MikeyLDS> k
[09:57] <MikeyLDS> WOOT!
[09:57] <MikeyLDS> am in!
[09:57] <Tobban__85> tjena jag har lite problem med mitt trådlösa nätverkskort jag kör kubuntu och har ett broadcom 43xx family kort som jag inte får att fungera
[09:57] <prince_jammys> maybe something is wrong with your systemsettings app, and it's not showing up
[09:57] <prince_jammys> iceland? sweden?
[09:57] <prince_jammys> denmark?
[09:57] <prince_jammys> qu'est-ce que c'est?
[09:58] <CheGuevara> sweden is the right answer :P
[09:58] <prince_jammys> !sv
[09:58] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:58] <MikeyLDS> brb :)
[09:58] <prince_jammys> ok
[09:59] <MikeyLDS> no i on't
[09:59] <MikeyLDS> ima swtich back to winwoes :P
[09:59] <MikeyLDS> JK! ;)
[10:04] <MikeyLDS> ima back with compiz fusion working :)
[10:08] <MikeyLDS> next step ... themes :)
[10:08] <noisekiller> Need to twek my dmesg ... anyone anyhow?
[10:08] <prince_jammys> MikeyLDS: very good
[10:09] <MikeyLDS> yep :)
[10:09] <MikeyLDS> thanks for your help m8
[10:09] <prince_jammys> no problem sir
[10:09] <harmental> hey guys...how can i launch the power management gui manually?
[10:10] <harmental> by manually i mean "shell"
[10:10] <MikeyLDS> !emerald
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <MikeyLDS> awww
[10:10]  * noisekiller boots in 2656 seconds ..
[10:11] <MikeyLDS> thats a lot of seconds! lol
[10:11] <llutz> harmental:  /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager
[10:11] <harmental> llutz: thx
[10:11] <noisekiller> Mikey > Yepp... takes ages.. :-/ cant figure out whats wrong.
[10:11] <MikeyLDS> hmmm
[10:12] <MikeyLDS> where should I store my personal files?
[10:12] <MikeyLDS> like downloads, games, etc?
[10:12] <noisekiller> [ 2655.860000] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex
[10:12] <prince_jammys> noisekiller: do you get a splash screen when you start up or do you get a black screen?
[10:12] <noisekiller> Jammys > no screen...
[10:12] <noisekiller> read about that when you say... humm, turn it of?
[10:13] <prince_jammys> noisekiller: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[10:13] <prince_jammys> that link has helped many
[10:13] <prince_jammys> laptop?
[10:13] <noisekiller> Laptop yes.. but splash -
[10:13] <prince_jammys> you show the symptoms, check the link
[10:14] <noisekiller> is that 'loading' or 'applications' etc..? Thanks anyhow. :)
[10:15] <tysine> are there any knetworkmanager gurus here?
[10:15] <MikeyLDS> whats a good place for finding themes?
[10:15] <MikeyLDS> emerald I assume are the ones I need
[10:15] <prince_jammys> !themes
[10:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:16] <prince_jammys> kde-look is a good one
[10:16] <MikeyLDS> ta
[10:16] <tysine> i am having a lot of trouble getting my wifi adapter working with knetworkmanager
[10:19] <ForgeAus> actually it was aquamarine for KDE themes in Beryl dunno what it is for Fusion
[10:19] <ForgeAus> btw congratz on the compiz-fusion Mikey :)
[10:24] <noisekiller> prince_jammys >> YOU'RE 1337!! ;) Thanx man!
[10:24] <prince_jammys> you're welcome
[10:25] <noisekiller> LOOOOOOOOL... booted in 31 seconds.. thats like 90 times faster than before. :-D
[10:25] <jpatrick> !lol > noisekiller (;))
[10:25] <prince_jammys> heh
[10:26] <prince_jammys> !tell prince_jammys about heh
[10:26] <noisekiller> Hah ok - cant use those words here... got it. Anyhow. Thanks again.
[10:26] <prince_jammys> i think he was kidding
[10:27] <jpatrick> noisekiller: just kidding :)
[10:27]  * noisekiller is feeling lucky. Time for compiz installation. Had a great guide that i lost.. black background, anyone knows?
[10:27] <noisekiller> jpatrick > copy that :)
[10:28] <noisekiller> !compiz
[10:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:28] <noisekiller> ?
[10:30] <noisekiller> Another question ... my konsole cursor/marker is 5-6 steps to the right of what im typing... Anyone knows why and how to correct that?
[10:32] <ForgeAus> noisekiller? sounds strange I wouldn't have a clue personally .. sorry
[10:33] <ForgeAus> I guess it could be something to do with termcap/terminfo, software corruption or konsole configuration, but I really don't know
[10:33] <noisekiller> ForgeAus > its really wierd.. specially when i try and  select parts of the log.. Doesnt mark what its copying..
[10:34] <ForgeAus> well if thers an offset take it into account and mark the offset instead
[10:34] <ForgeAus> its not as good as a solution but it should at least work
[10:36] <noisekiller> 'take it into account and mark the offset' ? Sorry but i didnt understand that part.
[10:36] <joodle> noisekiller: heh, that's a strange problem
[10:36] <joodle> no idea how to solve it though
[10:37] <MikeyLDS> how do I "apply" a new theme in emerald manager?
[10:40] <alpaco> hi
[10:40] <alpaco> i've broken my swap
[10:41] <alpaco> i edited fstab but when ubuntu is booting it can't mount the swap partition
[10:42] <llutz> alpaco: "blkid" tells you UUID of the partition, just edit fstab again and set it to the right UUID
[10:42] <alpaco> let me paste the fstab here
[10:42] <MikeyLDS> hey llutz, how do I apply themes in emerald?
[10:42] <MikeyLDS> i so see any option at all for applying the changes
[10:43] <llutz> MikeyLDS: i don't use that useless stuff
[10:43] <MikeyLDS> lol, what do you use instead?
[10:43] <alpaco> my fstab: http://p3m.org/pef/558
[10:43] <llutz> MikeyLDS: plain windowmanager (kwin or fluxbox)
[10:44] <alpaco> my swap partition is hda8
[10:44] <ambra> ciao
[10:44] <ambra> qualcuno qui parla italiano?
[10:45] <prince_jammys> !it | ambra
[10:45] <ubotu> ambra: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:45] <ambra> grazie solo che non so come si fa ad andare in un altro canale
[10:45] <llutz> alpaco: enter the UUID given from "blkid /dev/hda8" in your fstab-file
[10:45] <ambra> è la prima volta che uso questa chat
[10:45] <alpaco> llutz: thx
[10:46] <prince_jammys> ambra: /join #ubuntu-it
[10:47] <noisekiller> That went well... :-|
[10:57] <MikeyLDS> what is the "<super>" key in kubuntu?
[10:58] <MikeyLDS> like Shift+Super+C
[10:58] <prince_jammys> the "windows" key
[10:58] <MikeyLDS> not working for me
[10:58] <prince_jammys> the one between ctrl and alt
[10:59] <MikeyLDS> im trying to take that fire off my screen :P
[10:59] <prince_jammys> yes, configuring the (hundreds) of compiz options is kind of a pain
[10:59] <MikeyLDS> lol
[10:59] <MikeyLDS> hmmm
[11:00] <MikeyLDS> i just get a beep when i press the windows key
[11:00] <sandhya> Can I get an opinion on this laptop w.r.t. Kubuntu compatibility? http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/precn_m4300?c=in&cs=inbsd1&l=en&s=bsd
[11:00] <prince_jammys> enable imploding window wobbly preview: ctrl+alt+a+c+esc+super
[11:00] <MikeyLDS> lol
[11:01] <MikeyLDS> you serious?
[11:01] <prince_jammys> no
[11:01] <prince_jammys> but it's not far from reality
[11:01] <MikeyLDS> so how do i stop super key from just beeping?
[11:02] <prince_jammys> i have absolutely no idea
[11:02] <prince_jammys> !hardware : sandhya: check if this is useful
[11:02] <alpaco> have i edited fstab correctly? http://p3m.org/pef/559
[11:02] <sandhya> !hardware
[11:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[11:03] <alpaco> ubuntu still can't mount the swap
[11:03] <prince_jammys> sandhya: dell is ubuntu-friendly
[11:03] <alpaco> i have to manually swapon
[11:03] <sandhya> prince_jammys: thanks
[11:03] <prince_jammys> sandhya: Mr. Dell runs ubuntu in his home comp
[11:04] <llutz> alpaco: try "sudo swapon -a"
[11:05] <alpaco> llutz: but next time i reboot my machine, swap will be unavailable again
[11:05] <llutz> why?
[11:05] <MikeyLDS> my cube only has 2 sides :/
[11:05] <alpaco> i issue this: "sudo swapon /dev/hda8"
[11:05] <llutz> alpaco: try "sudo swapon -a"
[11:05] <alpaco> swap gets mounted
[11:05] <alpaco> llutz: ok
[11:10] <alpaco> llutz: i had to manually swapon after rebooting
[11:10] <llutz> alpaco: paste output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "blkid" please into pastebin
[11:10] <alpaco> llutz: my fstab: http://p3m.org/pef/559
[11:11] <llutz> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <alpaco> llutz sudo fdisk -l : http://p3m.org/pef/560
[11:12] <llutz> alpaco: it isn't hda8: /dev/hda6            2326        2432      859414+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:13] <alpaco> llutz: but i have formatted hda8 as swap
[11:13] <alpaco> gparted displays hda8 as swap
[11:13] <llutz> alpaco: then you have to change partition-type too
[11:14] <alpaco> llutz: how?
[11:15] <alpaco> gparted is showing both hda6 and hda8 as swap
[11:15] <llutz> sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[11:16] <alpaco> llutz:  $cfdisk /dev/hda : FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[11:16] <llutz> sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[11:16] <alpaco> FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[11:18] <alpaco> llutz: what type should i select
[11:18] <llutz> 82
[11:18] <alpaco> 82?
[11:18] <alpaco> llutz: thanks
[11:21] <MikeyLDS> how can I get my super key to work?
[11:26] <Sybux> Hi all
[11:27] <cannon> hi
[11:27] <cannon> !compiz
[11:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:28] <Sybux> I'm getting crazy with my X server configuration. I've just installed kubu and I've activited the nvidia propritatry drivers. And now my Xserver start but I've a very nice black screen. How I can correct this ?
[11:30] <jpatrick> Sybux: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:31] <Sybux> jpatrick : thx it'w working. What's the parameter -phigh I didn't know it
[11:31] <jpatrick> Sybux: set's it's proity to high to fix it
[11:43] <sanitarium> compiz fusion wont start on kde help plz
[11:44] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[11:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:44] <Dr_willis> follow that guide yet? check the troubleshooting part?
[11:46] <sanitarium> can i install plasma on kde 3.5.8
[11:47] <sanitarium> is there other channels for konversation
[11:48] <jpatrick> sanitarium: #konversation ?
[11:48] <sanitarium> i mean servers
[11:48] <jpatrick> oh, there loads of irc servers out there
[11:48] <Dragnslcr> I think all of KDE's official channels are on Freenode
[11:48] <sanitarium> how can i get them
[11:51] <jpatrick> sanitarium: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/networks/servers/
[11:51] <sanitarium> another problem
[11:52] <sanitarium> each time i try to launch kopete and trying to connect to msn i crashes,any idea how to fix it
[11:52] <sanitarium> thnx
[11:52] <noaXess> !backup
[11:52] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:52] <jpatrick> sanitarium: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:53] <jpatrick> sanitarium: there was a bug in Kopete that was fixed later on
[11:55] <sanitarium> do i have to remove it and installed it again
[11:55] <jpatrick> no
[11:56] <jpatrick> just upgrade
[11:56] <sanitarium> jpatrick the url taht u gave me doesnt work
[11:56] <sanitarium> ok
[11:57] <jpatrick> sanitarium: works here, hmm
[11:57] <sanitarium> An error occurred while loading http://www.irchelp.org:
[11:57] <sanitarium> Timeout on server
[11:57] <sanitarium>  Connection was to www.irchelp.org at port 80
[11:59] <jpatrick> well, it's what you get if you put "IRC servers" into google
[12:01] <Karti> anyone know what the KWord command line command is?
[12:01] <jpatrick> Karti: 'kword'
[12:02] <Karti> :) that easy....cheers
[12:25] <synteth> hey,can someone help me please?
[12:28] <sanitarium> how to add irc servers and networks
[12:29] <smurfslover> sanitarium: depends on which client you use
[12:29] <Dr_willis> xchat  has a double of 100 by default. :) not sure about the others.
[12:31] <synteth> when i start kopete a few minutes after trying to log onto the msn, the KDE  crash handler appears, with a message: "the application kopete (kopete) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"
[12:31] <synteth> oh by the way i've installed gutsy yesterday
[12:31] <SSJ_GZ> synteth: Make sure all packages are up to date.
[12:31] <synteth> how to do that?
[12:32] <synteth> by terminal
[12:33] <sanitarium> konversation
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. theres should be a flashing icon somewhere onthe panel notifing you of updates/upgrades
[12:33] <Dr_willis> or 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:34] <sanitarium> this is a bug in kopete and here the solution http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[12:36] <sanitarium> just download fixed.deb
[12:36] <sanitarium> and install it
[12:37] <synteth> ohh ok
[12:37] <synteth> thanks
[12:38] <sanitarium> no prob
[12:39] <sanitarium> is there another irc client then konversation
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> Sure, but what's wrong with Konversation?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Theres dozens of irc clients
[12:40] <Dr_willis> i use xchat mainly
[12:40] <sanitarium> i cant see the channels in a network
[12:40] <sanitarium> or a server
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  what channels? normally one does a /list to get a list of channels
[12:41] <Dr_willis> you can always do /server whatever.server.you.want
[12:41] <sanitarium> how to get all the list??
[12:41] <sanitarium> of channels
[12:41] <Dr_willis> - /list command to list channels
[12:41] <Dr_willis> which can number in the THOUSANDS
[12:42] <Dr_willis> konversation poped up a list of servers when i ran it here.. i rarely use konversation.
[12:46] <lovre> is there a way to make my screen saver do the compiz cube spin slowly all the time?
[12:46] <lovre> quasy screen saver :D
[12:50] <yao_ziyuan> i want to restore the taskbar's default transparency value
[12:50] <yao_ziyuan> what is it?
[12:57] <amerigo_> !wondows
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wondows - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <amerigo_> !windows
[12:58] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[13:14] <dvoid_> hello
[13:14] <amerigo_> !links
[13:14] <ubotu> Do NOT post links to Gutsy ISO files before an official release announcement is made.  These files are not the final release and will cause confusion.  Doing so will get you removed from the channel.
[13:15] <dvoid_> im using twinview with nvidia drivers, and kde got my display order wrong, where do i change primary display?
[13:15] <amerigo_> !link
[13:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:15] <dvoid_> the display config thingy only shows one display
[13:16] <amerigo_> Hello everybody
[13:17] <amerigo_> how can I get the list of cannel?
[13:17] <alpaco> amerigo_: what is a cannel?
[13:18] <amerigo_> ohh sorry .... channel
[13:19] <alpaco> what irc client are you using?
[13:19] <amerigo_> konversation
[13:19] <ere4si> !list
[13:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:19] <amerigo_> simply??
[13:19] <amerigo_> !list
[13:20] <Dr_willis> dvoid_:  what i did was drag the panels over to the other monitor.
[13:20] <amerigo_> ummm.... it seems won't work
[13:20] <dvoid_> yea, but new windows and such still pop up on wrong screen
[13:20] <Dr_willis> dvoid_:  there is a nvidia config tool also. But im not sure if it can change them. around . i THINK the improved drivers/tools in hardy can do it however.
[13:21] <Dr_willis> dvoid_:   I switched my monitor cables befor. :)
[13:21] <Dr_willis> I dont have a dual monitor setup to test rightnow
[13:21] <dvoid_> usualy you can set the primary display in kde display configuration, but i kubuntu it only shows one screen
[13:29] <Dr_willis> Ive had to use the nvidia config tools to propelry setup twinview.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> been testing out feisty last week. an i noticed that area had improved also.. better tools, and better detection.
[13:33] <ccarr013> hi there
[13:33] <ccarr013> can anyone help me?
[13:33] <ccarr013> I started to use kubuntu
[13:33] <Dr_willis> Howdy.
[13:33] <ccarr013> I followed the troubleshooting guide for Wi-Fi
[13:33] <ccarr013> But
[13:33] <cheeby> hi.  how can I configure kdm-kde4 ?  I'd like to change the background and maybe the logo.
[13:33] <ccarr013> I can't still start using it
[13:33] <p_masho> keep getting this message when trying to launch a file from Dolphin >> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate'
[13:34] <p_masho> See it as a bug in a few places. But no solution yet. Any ideas ?
[13:34] <ccarr013> My PC don't even recognize the wifi card
[13:34] <ccarr013> but it did before
[13:35] <ccarr013> my procedure was...
[13:35] <ccarr013> add the wifi card to black list and install NDISWRAPPER windows driver
[13:35] <ccarr013> now I have removed the NDISWRAPPER windows driver and removed the wifi card from the blacklist
[13:36] <ccarr013> and the wifi card is not recognized
[13:36] <ccarr013> any solution?
[13:36] <ccarr013> does anyone read what I'm writting?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> I hear ya..
[13:37] <alpaco> ccarr013: yes
[13:37] <Dr_willis> but i dont use wireelss...
[13:37] <ccarr013> I need it
[13:37] <Dr_willis> and i dont use kde4 either for p_maho
[13:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:37] <ccarr013> for mobile using
[13:38] <zimon> ccarr013: why did you install ndiswrapper and use the windows drivers?
[13:38] <ccarr013> with some commands the wifi card exists
[13:38] <ccarr013> because the BCM4311 driver don't work with the default linux driver
[13:38] <zimon> ccarr013: and the windows-driver worked?
[13:38] <ccarr013> my problem is that the wlan0 device don't exists
[13:39] <ccarr013> nop
[13:39] <ccarr013> it didn't
[13:39] <cheeby> ccarr013: is that a broadcom card?
[13:39] <ccarr013> yerap
[13:39] <ccarr013> yeap
[13:39] <cheeby> I finally gave up and just bought a different card, not worth the hassle
[13:39] <ccarr013> before that, the default driver recognized the wifi card but it didn't work
[13:39] <cheeby> I was able to sell the card to a windows user.
[13:40] <ccarr013> yeah
[13:40] <ccarr013> but some people use this card...
[13:40] <ccarr013> and it's integrated
[13:40] <cheeby> I know,  it should work.  I imagine it depends on what your time is worth.
[13:40] <ccarr013> yeah
[13:41] <cheeby> I installed a linksys card and it started working before I configured it,
[13:41] <ccarr013> but it was recognized before
[13:41] <ccarr013> xD
[13:41] <alpaco> ccarr013: try http://ubuntuforums.org as well
[13:41] <Dr_willis> befor what...
[13:41] <Dr_willis> befor you upgraded?
[13:41] <ccarr013> I tried
[13:41] <cheeby> alpaco: for the broadcom card?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> befor you dident do anything? it just suddently stopped? ect..
[13:41] <ccarr013> before I install the windows driver with NDISWRAPPER
[13:41] <alpaco> ccarr013: yeah, ask your question there too
[13:42] <ccarr013> I might do it and ask
[13:42] <ccarr013> I already don't have hair lol
[13:42] <cheeby> alpaco: the bcm is no longer an issue since I've replaced it with one that works.
[13:42] <cheeby> I was wondering how to configure the kdm in kde4.
[13:42] <ccarr013> yeah
[13:43] <alpaco> cheeby: hmm
[13:43] <cheeby> optoins are all grayed ot.
[13:43] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[13:43] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:43] <cheeby> s/ot/out/
[13:43] <ccarr013> but there is a warranty that I can't blow :P
[13:43] <cheeby> yeah, I'm there.
[13:43] <alpaco> cheeby: but it seems it's integrated into his machine, so he can't sell it
[13:44] <ccarr013> yeap
[13:44] <ccarr013> integrated
[13:44] <cheeby> ah.  it's integrated.
[13:44] <cheeby> my mistake.  thought it was pci.
[13:44] <ccarr013> nop
[13:44] <ccarr013> :(
[13:44] <Dr_willis> ig ya got a spare pci slot.. get a different card. :)
[13:45] <ccarr013> I thought that... but my warranty is enabled
[13:45] <alpaco> ubuntu's usenet newsgroup is worth a try for getting support too
[13:46] <alpaco> most gurus hang out in the usenet group
[13:46] <ccarr013> yeah
[13:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. My PC warrenty was still valid even if i installed new stuff...
[13:46] <Dr_willis> i made sure of that befor i left the store.
[13:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:46] <ccarr013> hehe
[13:46] <ccarr013> xD
[13:46] <Dr_willis> Like the warrenty is worth  the paper its written on.
[13:46] <ccarr013> no papers in here ;)
[13:47] <zimon> ccarr013: what's that got to do with warranty? you can always add hardware
[13:47] <ccarr013> sellers here are a little complicated :P
[13:47] <zimon> ccarr013: where's here?
[13:47] <ccarr013> in my country
[13:47] <ccarr013> Chile
[13:48] <ccarr013> I could get the PC to the seller and the seller will install the new hardware for a modic price
[13:48] <ccarr013> modic = expensive
[13:49] <zimon> i see ...
[13:49] <ccarr013> may be there's a solution smaller
[13:49] <ccarr013> I'll change my question now so I can try another way
[13:49] <ccarr013> how can I add a wlan0 device?
[13:49] <zimon> ccarr013: get a usb wlan device ... on the other hand, i don't know if there's any with a proper chipset
[13:49] <Dr_willis> when the proper modules/drivers get loaded the wanl0 device will appear
[13:50] <ccarr013> ok... thanx zimon :D
[13:50] <ccarr013> is there a way to take out a device and reinstall it?
[13:50] <ccarr013> I mean in the OS
[13:51] <zimon> ccarr013: normally, just reload the kernel module. which is bc43 for you
[13:51] <krzysiek> register <lalus>
[13:51] <ccarr013> aha..... jakemate xD
[13:51] <ccarr013> and reloading the kernel? :P
[13:52] <zimon> ccarr013: no ..
[13:52] <ccarr013> :s
[13:52] <ccarr013> may be buying a gun will solve my problems xD
[13:52] <zimon> ccarr013: sorry .. it's called b43 .. is that loaded?
[13:52] <ccarr013> mmm
[13:52] <ccarr013> where do I see that?
[13:53] <zimon> ccarr013: lsmod |grep b43
[13:53] <ccarr013> b43                   149532  0
[13:53] <ccarr013> ssb                    36612  1 b43
[13:53] <ccarr013> pcmcia                 41388  2 b43,ssb
[13:53] <ccarr013> mac80211              219892  1 b43
[13:53] <ccarr013> led_class               5380  1 b43
[13:53] <ccarr013> pcmcia_core            40980  2 b43,pcmcia
[13:55] <ccarr013> it is loaded i think
[13:57] <zimon> ccarr013: right .. so try to see whether it detected your device or shows some errors .. dmesg |grep b43
[13:57] <ccarr013> nothing on screen
[13:59] <amerigo_> no sound from amaroK in stream .... some ideas?
[14:00] <zimon> ccarr013: does lspci find your wlan device?
[14:00] <ccarr013> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[14:02] <ccarr013> recognized
[14:02] <amerigo_> no sound from amaroK in stream .... some ideas?
[14:03] <ccarr013> try using kaffein
[14:04] <ccarr013> kaffeine
[14:04] <amerigo_> but other sound play...
[14:05] <ccarr013> I can stream with AmaroK
[14:05] <ccarr013> using .asx
[14:05] <ccarr013> http://www.pulsradio.com/pls/pulstrance-wmp.asx
[14:06] <amerigo_> the strange think is that the misic seems to runs
[14:07] <amerigo_> title appears on the screen
[14:07] <ccarr013> mmm
[14:07] <amerigo_> i've look in audio setting ...
[14:07] <amerigo_> but it's all opened
[14:08] <ccarr013> It should work
[14:09] <ccarr013> and reinstalling it?
[14:09] <amerigo_> i've to try
[14:09] <ccarr013> yeah
[14:09] <ccarr013> sudo apt-get install amarok
[14:09] <cannon> hi all
[14:09] <NIghtFire> Hi
[14:09] <ccarr013> hi
[14:10] <NIghtFire> I am looking for a way to get Gutsy to play Commercially produced dvds ?
[14:11] <jpatrick> !dvd | NIghtFire
[14:11] <ubotu> NIghtFire: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:13] <cannon> hey guys
[14:13] <cannon> is there an MS Money proggie for linux?
[14:13] <cannon> * alternative
[14:16] <ccarr013> :p
[14:16] <ccarr013> no idea xD
[14:16] <cannon> looks like ima need some Wine then :P
[14:16] <ccarr013> hehe
[14:16] <icewaterman> running xvinfo with v4l (xorg module) enabled crashes Xorg)
[14:17] <ccarr013> what about x-Wine?... is it better?
[14:17] <cannon> no idea
[14:17] <ccarr013> I'll try
[14:17] <cannon> i only started using linux today :)
[14:17] <ccarr013> any news I'll give it to you :D
[14:17] <cannon> ta
[14:23] <dvoid_> found a solution to the problem
[14:24] <ccarr013> I don't to mine
[14:24] <ccarr013> :s
[14:25] <dvoid_> strange that kubuntu kind of removed the primary display config thing from kcontrol
[14:25] <dvoid_> i had to change the primary display in nvidia drivers instead..really anoying
[14:25] <fox> para chat español
[14:25] <ccarr013> a question
[14:25] <ccarr013> chat español
[14:26] <ccarr013> que pasa con el chat español?
[14:26] <ccarr013> :P
[14:26] <jpatrick> !es | ccarr013, fox
[14:26] <ubotu> ccarr013, fox: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:26] <ccarr013> thanx
[14:26] <ccarr013> Reinstalling my linux will add more options in the GRUB list?
[14:26] <cannon> hey, i need help :/
[14:26] <cannon> as always :P
[14:27] <cannon> my menu bar to my windows have disapeared
[14:27] <ccarr013> windows? xp
[14:27] <ccarr013> xp = dead smiley
[14:28] <ccarr013> I'll trying reinstalling Linux
[14:28] <ccarr013> I'll come back fore some comunity
[14:28] <ccarr013> thanx a lot people
[14:28] <ccarr013> you're really gurus
[14:28] <ccarr013> :D
[14:29] <ccarr013> see ya
[14:35] <freemanda> anyone know what the error "initramfs ata failed to set transfer mode" means during a fresh install of 7.10 means
[14:37] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:40] <jpatrick> hi BluesKaj
[14:41] <noisekiller> How to enable desktop effect
[14:41] <BluesKaj> hey jpatrick , what's new ?
[14:41] <jpatrick> not much
[14:42] <Cannon> does azurues work with linux?
[14:42] <freemanda> any ideas???
[14:43] <KR-data> Cannon, yes
[14:43] <KR-data> Cannon, if I remember correctly it's also in the package manager
[14:49] <Cannon> hey, is there an extension manager?
[14:49] <freemanda> the problem occurs during install and it never gets tot the desktop
[14:49] <Cannon> like default programs?
[14:50] <jussi01> Cannon: right click the file type, the properties
[14:50] <noisekiller> Anyone please - enable desktop effects. Is that a button, selection, installation or just a rumor?
[14:50] <jussi01> yoou can set it there
[14:51] <jussi01> !compiz | noisekiller
[14:51] <ubotu> noisekiller: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:51] <jussi01> noisekiller: Thats gnome that button :)
[14:51] <KR-data> freemanda, I didn't see the question, I entered after you asked it
[14:52] <freemanda> yeah, i am having install problems on a amd64 bit version
[14:52] <noisekiller> jussi01: I've got compiz but it wont start.. Got the ccsm workin but yea.. wth
[14:52] <jussi01> Cannon: also, on azureus, in kde, many people prefer ktorrent
[14:53] <jussi01> noisekiller: gfx card please?
[14:53] <freemanda> initramfs ata failed to set xfer mode
[14:54] <Cannon> hmmm
[14:54] <noisekiller> jussi01 > ATI R300 with restricted driver .
[14:55] <Cannon> i can see how linux appeals to peeps
[14:55] <Cannon> just getting some things working is an enjoyable challenge
[14:55] <siofwolves> hi. i'm gettting "kinit : no resume image, doing normal boot..." upon boot, only a terminal login is available. any idea's?
[14:56]  * noisekiller looks at his buddy computer that left.. doh
[14:57] <freemanda> KR-data: did u get that?
[14:57] <jussi01> noisekiller: Id pop into #compiz-fusion and ask there, there are experts there
[14:57] <noisekiller> Ok.. The activity there is quite low right now.. Thanks anyway. :)
[14:57] <jussi01> Cannon: for a lot of people, thigs do "just work"
[14:57] <Cannon> heh
[14:58] <Cannon> i can't find my azureus proggie
[14:58] <Cannon> so I can link torrents to it
[14:58] <jussi01> Cannon: Seriously, give ktorrent a try
[14:59] <Cannon> i kept loading torrents stalled
[14:59] <jussi01> Cannon: programs executables are usually found in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[14:59] <Cannon> even when nothing else was active
[14:59] <Cannon> ta
[14:59]  * jussi01 is going, bye
[15:00] <Cannon> cya
[15:02] <freemanda> KR-data u still there??
[15:04] <KR-data> freemanda, sorry, I'll look, I was at the bathroom
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Cannon, not listed in the k-menu under internet ?
[15:05] <vignesh> where do i get the sourcecode for kalzium?
[15:05] <KR-data> freemanda, I'm not sure what to do about that, sorry
[15:06] <freemanda> i even tried loading the 32 bit version and got the same errors
[15:06] <Cannon> nup BluesKaj
[15:08] <isa268[FAN]> hello where can i go for help with compiz
[15:09] <sudobash> what version of ubuntu?
[15:09] <martijn81> #compiz-fusion
[15:09] <_stijn_> :D just wanted to say that to martijn81
[15:09] <ccarr013> hi again
[15:10] <ccarr013> I re-installed kubuntu on my PC
[15:10] <ccarr013> and now I have a new question :P
[15:11] <ccarr013> the firmware for the wifi broadcom 43xx fwcutter bla bla bla ask me for a firmware ubication
[15:11] <ccarr013> wich can be a CD-ROM or an URL
[15:11] <ccarr013> and the URL is http://xeve.de/down/wl_apsta.o
[15:11] <ccarr013> is that URL right?
[15:12] <ccarr013> :s
[15:13] <ccarr013> no answer?
[15:14] <yao_ziyuan> ideally, i want skim to run by default for any locale
[15:14] <ccarr013> so I must accept that URL
[15:14] <yao_ziyuan> but disable its keybindings until the user uses his mouse to choose a CJK language from skim's popup menu
[15:14] <yao_ziyuan> sorry, wrong channel
[15:15] <ccarr013> lol
[15:15] <Cannon> heh
[15:15] <Cannon> how do I find my minimized ktorrent?
[15:15] <ccarr013> can anyone help my question? ;)
[15:15] <ccarr013> xD
[15:15] <sudobash> alt-tab maybe?
[15:15] <Cannon> lol
[15:15] <Cannon> it's not on the tast bar
[15:15] <ccarr013> sudobash
[15:15] <ccarr013> any idea?
[15:16] <sudobash> let me read your text
[15:16] <ccarr013> ok
[15:16] <Cannon> is there a system tray like in xp?
[15:17] <ccarr013> yeah
[15:17] <sudobash> why dont you try it any see and then do an iwconfig
[15:17] <ccarr013> ok
[15:17] <sudobash> and if that doesnt work and you cant find any other alternative there is always ndiswrapper
[15:17] <ccarr013> now the wi-fi button turned on
[15:18] <ccarr013> wireless is eth1
[15:18] <amerigo> #windows
[15:19] <ccarr013> sooo????
[15:20] <ccarr013> iwconfig is working
[15:20] <sudobash> what does it say
[15:21] <sudobash> you need to scan for a network
[15:21] <ccarr013> can I paste the text here?
[15:21] <vignesh> im having kubuntu 7.10 and im running kde 3.6.5.. how do i upgrade to kde 4.2 ??
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !paste
[15:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:22] <ccarr013> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59678/ there's the reading
[15:23] <ccarr013> wich one is the command for scanning networks?
[15:24] <amerigo> ##windows
[15:24] <vignesh> im having kubuntu 7.10 and im running kde 3.6.5.. how do i upgrade to kde 4.2 ??
[15:25] <Jucato> amerigo: can you please stop doing that
[15:25] <amerigo> i don't know what I doing..
[15:25] <sudobash> yes please
[15:25] <sudobash> then you dont belong on IRC
[15:26] <sudobash> plainly said
[15:26] <amerigo> why so?
[15:26] <Jucato> vignesh: #1. You don't "upgrade" to KDE 4, you install it side by side with KDE 3.5.9. #2. the latest stable KDE 4 version is KDE 4.0.2. #3, please go to #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE4 instructions. thanks
[15:26] <amerigo> I'm try to enter in windows channel
[15:26] <sudobash> syntax: /join #channel
[15:26] <Jucato> amerigo: the command is: /j ##windows
[15:27] <amerigo> thank you dears
[15:27] <amerigo> but now you are just doing spammmmmm
[15:31] <ccarr013> my wifi don't scan wireless networks
[15:32] <vignesh> Jucato, ty
[15:33] <ccarr013> my wifi don't scan networks
[15:37] <ccarr013> the output for the command "$sudo iwlist eth1 scan" is "No scan results"
[15:37] <ccarr013> any idea?
[15:37] <ccarr013> wireless network is on and working in my home
[15:37] <sudobash> do you have a router?
[15:37] <sudobash> ok
[15:37] <ccarr013> yeap
[15:37] <sudobash> umm make sure you a broadcasting an SSID
[15:37] <ccarr013> I'm doing it
[15:37] <ccarr013> I can see it in another computer
[15:38] <sudobash> hmm
[15:38] <Willizar> how can i set my quit msg on konversation
[15:38] <sudobash> you have a no broken antenna right?
[15:38] <ccarr013> nop
[15:38] <ccarr013> is a new netgear router
[15:38] <sudobash> i mean on the client
[15:38] <ccarr013> and I'm at 2 feet next
[15:38] <ccarr013> nop
[15:38] <sudobash> lol
[15:39] <sudobash> use a different scan client
[15:39] <ccarr013> everything is new
[15:39] <sudobash> look through synaptic
[15:39] <ccarr013> mmm
[15:39] <Willizar> how can i set my quit msg on konversation
[15:39] <ccarr013> great idea
[15:39] <ccarr013> thanx dude
[15:39] <ccarr013> I'll tell you how is it going
[15:39] <sudobash> what did iwconfig come back with?
[15:40] <ccarr013> this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59678/ there's the readin
[15:40] <ccarr013> g
[15:41] <Football-head> can anyone help me i want to uninstall a game but i cant. here how i installed it : http://pastebin.com/d7e54276d
[15:42] <Football-head> anyone ?
[15:44] <sudobash> it has been a while since i have used wifi and linux ccarr013 but i think there is a way to manually set an SSID in iwconfig
[15:44] <sudobash> football one sec
[15:44] <ccarr013> yeah sudobash
[15:45] <ccarr013> but no conection is established
[15:47] <Football-head> i nead help uninstalling a game or informaion on what went wrong here the output of the installation and i want to knwo if i can uninstall http://pastebin.com/d7e54276d
[15:48] <||arifaX> sudobash: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <your SSID> key <yourkey> works fine here
[15:49] <ccarr013> if I download kernel 2.6.20 will it work on my kubuntu?
[15:50] <ccarr013> or will it crash?
[15:51] <marjan> is there a skype to download
[15:51] <ccarr013> use automatix
[15:51] <Jucato> !skype
[15:51] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[15:52] <ccarr013> will my kubuntu crash if I download kernel 2.6.20?
[15:53] <ccarr013> sudobash?
[15:55] <ccarr013> will my kubuntu crash if I install kernel 2.6.20?
[15:56] <pushax> ccarr013: if it does theny ou simply pick another in grub
[15:57] <pushax> ccarr013: other words grub links to previous kernel builds.
[15:59] <pushax> ccarr013: make sure you update everything for the kernel.  like libs first then apps, then kernel.  do a Adept fetch and see what you need.  then select and install the stages I jsut said.  Libs first.
[15:59] <preacher> hi everyone
[15:59] <pushax> hi
[15:59] <preacher> anyone know if there is an applet for the panel for accessing kaddressbook
[16:00] <preacher> i thought there used to be one but don't see it now
[16:00] <pushax> nope.
[16:02] <Jucato> preacher: take a search at kde-apps.org
[16:02] <Jucato> I think there's one there
[16:03] <preacher> thanks i'll try that
[16:03] <ubuntu> !pl
[16:03] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[16:05] <preacher> i found it repo's - "kicker-contantsmenu"
[16:05] <preacher> "contacts"
[16:06] <cuznt> hi kubuntu gutsy here, i have a master slave hd set up. have formatted the slave and now i can not see it in the storage media any longer.
[16:07] <cuznt> do i need to tell my pc to find it and look @ it?
[16:07]  * cuznt used qparted
[16:07] <cuznt> to format
[16:11] <fuhreal> Hey all wussup :)
[16:11] <zimon> cuznt: ide or sata drive?
[16:12] <cuznt> ide
[16:12] <zimon> cuznt: can you paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb?
[16:13] <cuznt> got nothing
[16:13] <cuznt> bewofthe@bewofthe:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb [sudo] password for bewofthe: bewofthe@bewofthe:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb bewofthe@bewofthe:~$
[16:14] <flipstar> err try with cat before
[16:14] <flipstar> fdisk is a file
[16:14] <flipstar> err wait
[16:14] <flipstar> the switch was wrong
[16:14] <flipstar> sudo fdisk /dev/hdb -l
[16:14] <mjponce> fdisk is a file
[16:14] <flipstar> no
[16:15] <flipstar> ..
[16:15] <flipstar> a command, sry
[16:15] <mjponce> its a cmd
[16:15] <cuznt> still......... nothing
[16:15] <zimon> cuznt: maybe you need /dev/sdb ... it's all libata now ..
[16:15] <flipstar> just readed fstab
[16:15] <mjponce> i want a harddisk
[16:16] <mjponce> a external one
[16:16] <mjponce> using usb
[16:16] <cuznt> so sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l ?
[16:16] <zimon> cuznt: yes
[16:16] <zimon> cuznt: no ... fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[16:16] <cuznt> riiiiiiiiiight'
[16:16] <mjponce> i want use ext2 or ext3
[16:17] <mjponce> that is my project 4 today =)
[16:17] <cuznt> Disk /dev/sdb: 15.0 GB, 15020457984 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1826 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000c2488    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System  /dev/sdb1   *           1        1735    13936356   83  Linux
[16:17] <RickKnight> Need help with gutsy upgrade. After reboot I get busy box shell and message saying my doesn't exist.
[16:17] <cuznt> it s a little one
[16:18] <mjponce> 120 GB
[16:18] <mjponce> that all i want
[16:18] <mjponce> not much money requiered =)
[16:18]  * cuznt has a 500g with no power because it burnt out
[16:18] <cuznt> finds it is common too
[16:19] <flipstar> cuznt: did you already mounted the partition after formatting ?
[16:19] <zimon> cuznt: alright. now what do mean by you can't find it in the storage media?
[16:19] <cuznt> i made it actice
[16:19] <cuznt> does qparted allow you to mount it>
[16:19] <cuznt> ?
[16:20] <cuznt> or do i go sudo mount /dev/sdb ?
[16:20] <zimon> cuznt: i don't know if qparted can mount drives ... don't think so. if you want to mount it on startup, add it to /etc/fstab
[16:20] <cuznt> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:20] <cuznt> i tried it anyway
[16:20] <ubuntu> hello
[16:21] <flipstar> cuznt: you need to add a mount directory to mount /dev/sdb
[16:21] <cuznt> o gotcha
[16:21] <zimon> cuznt: you have to specify a mountpoint if it's not in /etc/fstab ... like mount /dev/sdb /media/disk
[16:23] <cuznt> no etc/fstab
[16:23] <zimon> cuznt: /etc/fstab
[16:23] <cuznt> i found it
[16:23] <cuznt> sorry
[16:24] <cuznt> *reads   /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[16:25] <fuhreal> Where are the kde themes installed ? I would like to put the new themes i download in the same place as the original ones
[16:25] <cuznt> can i just delete the no in front of noauto?
[16:26] <zimon> cuznt: why do you want to change the entry for the cdrom?
[16:26] <cuznt> no sry again sdb is not listed
[16:26] <cuznt> excuse
[16:26] <zimon> cuznt: of course not .. you have to add a line for it
[16:26] <cuznt> i do not see sdb at all listed
[16:26] <cuznt> ahhhhhh
[16:27] <cuznt> is slow and brutish
[16:28] <dvoid> hello agian
[16:28] <dvoid> agian
[16:28] <dvoid> again :D
[16:28] <dvoid> where is the grub config file?
[16:29] <dvoid> in my old system there was a /etc/grub.conf or something
[16:29] <zimon>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:29] <dvoid> i cant find that here
[16:29] <dvoid> oh ok
[16:34] <CorporateMusk> Hi all, I'm trying to set up my machine so I can test my php files locally, running 7.10.  I
[16:35] <CorporateMusk> I've installed apache and php, but when I view my test files, the php code isn't proccessed
[16:35] <amerigo_> what sould i use to install acrobar reader in rpm?
[16:35] <dvoid> hello again
[16:35] <CorporateMusk> what did I miss?
[16:35] <dvoid> added noapic to my kernel command line, i've had problems with apic before, i think/hope thats the problem
[16:40] <amerigo_> somebody can help me?
[16:40] <amerigo_> what sould i use to install acrobar reader .rpm?
[16:40] <jpatrick> !alien | amerigo_
[16:40] <ubotu> amerigo_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[16:41] <amerigo_> sintax in alien?
[16:41] <rene> yesterday I installed kubuntu with kde4 everything seems very good but in my office menu I just have the word processor
[16:41] <amerigo_> from konsole
[16:41] <Jucato> rene: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[16:41] <rene> and the rest of open office ¿
[16:42] <amerigo_> so if its right alien from konsole to APT
[16:44] <lolo> can you hear me???
[16:44] <jpatrick> lolo: no
[16:44] <jpatrick> lolo: but I can read you
[16:44] <lolo> cool
[16:45] <lolo> are you french???
[16:45] <jpatrick> !fr | lolo
[16:45] <ubotu> lolo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:45] <lolo> euhhhh
[16:45] <lolo> ok
[16:46] <lolo> je sais pas comment j'ai fait pour arriver ici
[16:46] <jpatrick> amerigo_: do: "alien filename.rpm" in the console
[16:46] <jpatrick> lolo: /join #kubuntu-fr
[16:46] <Biggles> um how do i search for folders or stuff?
[16:47] <Biggles> i forget the command :D
[16:47] <jpatrick> Biggles: locate thing
[16:47] <Biggles> ty :)
[16:48] <jpatrick> Biggles: as in: "locate .mp3"
[16:49] <Jucato> (although locate's index needs to be updated once in a while... actually it does that automatically.. but not soon enough... unlike more "modern" index/search engines)
[16:50] <jpatrick> Jucato: /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[16:51] <Jucato> jpatrick: like I said, automatically, "but not soon enough"
[16:51] <marjan> how can i slap ppl :)
[16:51] <Jucato> it's not real time updating
[16:52] <lowridah> hi
[16:52] <marjan> hi
[16:52] <lowridah> someone knows why installing with gdebi-kde still doesn't work in gutsy?
[16:52] <Jucato> it doesn't?
[16:53] <lowridah> nope
[16:53] <Jucato> how doesn't it work?
[16:53] <lowridah> it crashes silently
[16:53] <lowridah> like in oktober :s
[16:53] <CorporateMusk> I've installed apache2 and php, but it doesn't seem to be working right.  Apache2 is working fine, but none of my php is being proccessed.  Any ideas?
[16:53] <lowridah> very annoying
[16:54] <lowridah> i still prefer to install debs graphically even if i know cli enough
[16:54] <Jucato> hm... have you checked the bug reports in launchpad.net? maybe you could get more info from there
[16:54] <lowridah> i heard it works again on hardy
[16:54] <lowridah> but can someone confirm?
[16:54] <lowridah> i could test hardy :)
[16:55] <flipstar> worked everytime i used gdebi ..
[16:55] <flipstar> also on hardy
[16:56] <lowridah> no it doesn't work atm on gutsy
[16:57] <lowridah> gdebi works maybe
[16:57] <lowridah> but gdebi-kde (kde version) doesn't work
[16:58] <lowridah> hope it will work for april :)
[16:58] <Biggles> u guys have any basic tips to speed up kubuntu?
[16:58] <lowridah`afk> kubuntu is fast :D
[16:58] <lowridah`afk> compared to ubuntu
[16:58] <sourcemaker> how good is KDE 4.0.2?
[16:58] <lowridah`afk> better :)
[16:59] <lowridah`afk> finally panel reiszing
[16:59] <emilsedgh> sourcemaker: Usable, but not as good as 3.5 ( personal idea... )
[16:59] <sourcemaker> lowridah`afk: better than kde 3.5.9?
[16:59] <Biggles> ll i only have 450MBs of ram apparently so its kinda slow...
[16:59] <rene> for me seems faster than 3.5.9
[16:59] <Biggles> WAY faster then windows
[16:59] <lowridah`afk> not for me
[16:59] <Biggles> like i mean HUGE difference :P
[16:59] <lowridah`afk> it lacks a lot of features
[17:00] <sourcemaker> lowridah`afk: can I use both... kde 3 and kde 4, without getting problems?
[17:00] <lowridah`afk> yes
[17:00] <rene> yes
[17:00] <lowridah`afk> there will be 2 diffrent config directories
[17:00] <fuhreal> Could someone recommend another file browser besides dolphine ?
[17:00] <rene> just a mix of application but nothing bad
[17:00] <sourcemaker> cool...
[17:01] <dvoid_> hum still locks up :(
[17:01] <Xk2c> fuhreal: konqueror
[17:01] <Biggles> firefox?
[17:01] <lowridah`afk> doesn't someone find that he plastik window border in kde4 is bigger than in kde 3.5.X ?
[17:02] <rene> it was but in kde 4.02 is normal size
[17:02] <fuhreal> Xk2c: konqueror seems to load web pages ...
[17:02] <Xk2c> fuhreal: also, yes
[17:02] <flipstar> for me kde4 desktop isnt really god
[17:02] <flipstar> kde4 apps pretty awesome
[17:03] <Xk2c> fuhreal: enter /home in the urlbar in konqi
[17:03] <flipstar> err good not god
[17:04] <Biggles> lol kubuntu is sooo much easier to set up on a PS3 then gentoo... I'm just gonna lay that out there
[17:05] <fuhreal> Xk2c: hrmm...... thanks.. .any others?
[17:05] <sourcemaker> are there tools for financial management like stocks?
[17:06] <Xk2c> fuhreal: mc
[17:06] <user5> hello
[17:06] <flipstar> kmymoney maybe
[17:06] <lowridah`afk> rene : ok
[17:06] <lowridah`afk> :)
[17:07] <user5> wath's up tehre?
[17:07] <user5> hello
[17:08] <mulder> I have just installed Kubuntu 7.10 and I can't use adept now. I have this when I do a sudo ap-get update "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:08] <Biggles> then run that :P
[17:08] <Biggles> in terminal
[17:08] <mulder> I did but it doesn't do anything
[17:08] <Biggles> my adept constantly crashes and that fixes it
[17:08] <fuhreal> Xk2c: midnight commander
[17:09] <Xk2c> fuhreal: yes
[17:09] <fuhreal> Xk2c: i'll try t
[17:09] <mulder> I get this: equested operation requires superuser privilege
[17:09] <mulder> requested
[17:10] <flipstar> then use sudo before
[17:11] <flipstar> !sudo | mulder
[17:11] <ubotu> mulder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[17:11] <mulder> Yes sorry I forgot that
[17:11] <mulder> Silly me
[17:11] <Biggles> there ya go :)
[17:11] <flipstar> nvm
[17:11] <Biggles> now that reminds me...
[17:11] <Biggles> how do you set the root password?
[17:12] <flipstar> you realllllly should not do that
[17:12] <jpatrick> !root | Biggles
[17:12] <ubotu> Biggles: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:12] <mulder> Thank you people
[17:12] <jpatrick> !noroot | Biggles
[17:12] <ubotu> Biggles: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[17:12] <Biggles> ok sorry, ive been screwing around with gentoo a lot
[17:13] <flipstar> there is no user:"root" in ubuntu
[17:13] <flipstar> at least no real one
[17:13] <Biggles> I've lost hope for that one...
[17:13] <flipstar> just use sudo or see sudeors file
[17:14] <fuhreal> Xk2c: do i need to manually add the Kmenu option
[17:14] <fuhreal> Xk2c: to launch mc ?
[17:15] <flipstar> mc is a commandline app afaik
[17:15] <jpatrick> fuhreal: use kmenuedit
[17:16] <Xk2c> fuhreal: open konsole and type mc
[17:17] <fuhreal> theres no way to autogen the menu?
[17:18] <flipstar> graphical apps do that normally by they own
[17:19] <flipstar> but this is not really complicated :)
[17:19] <fuhreal> Xk2c: found krusader ..... looks like i found my file managet
[17:19] <fuhreal> *manager
[17:19] <fuhreal> flipstar: yes.. just annoying
[17:19] <Xk2c> fuhreal: ok
[17:20] <Xk2c> fuhreal: didn't know about krusader
[17:20] <noisekiller> anyone > why is my konsole cursor not where im typing?
[17:20] <Xk2c> noisekiller: it gets hidden
[17:20] <Xk2c> noisekiller: just use it and it will reappear
[17:20] <noisekiller> Xk2c > no it has an offset and is 5-6 chars in front of my letters.
[17:21] <Xk2c> noisekiller: ahh sorry
[17:22] <flipstar> noisekiller: try up and down arrows maybe it will fix that
[17:22] <Xk2c> noisekiller: i did understand the *mouse*cursor
[17:22] <Xk2c> sorry
[17:22] <noisekiller> Xk2c: heh ok... n/p
[17:22] <noisekiller> flipstar: arrows up/down shows history. :)
[17:23] <flipstar> i know
[17:23] <noisekiller> can i reinstall konsole?
[17:23] <flipstar> noisekiller: which konsole version u using?
[17:23] <flipstar> konsole-kde4 ?
[17:23] <noisekiller> Eh .. yea, in KDE 3.x. Doh. What do I do?
[17:23] <flipstar> this occur every time you type ?
[17:24] <noisekiller> flipstar: Its always that way with some gfx lag sometimes.
[17:24] <noisekiller> flipstar: Konsole 2.0 for KDE 4.0.2 but Im using KDE 3.x
[17:24] <flipstar> for me just from time to time..pressing up&down fixes that for me..
[17:24] <fuhreal> almost done setting up this desktop
[17:24] <fuhreal> errr... laptop / desktop
[17:25] <fuhreal> time to pull kde apps that are not neede
[17:25] <fuhreal> *needed
[17:25] <flipstar> fuhreal: for me those :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59706/
[17:27] <cannon> hey all
[17:27] <cannon> does Kaffine play xvids by default?
[17:27] <cannon> or do I need a codec pack from somewhere?
[17:28] <noisekiller> Can I uninstall KDE 4 somehow?
[17:28] <flipstar> cannon: libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:29] <Jsn0327> what is a popular full featured firewall for ubuntu?
[17:29] <flipstar> no need for that ..
[17:29] <jpatrick> !info ufw hardy
[17:29] <jpatrick> !firewall
[17:29] <ubotu> ufw (source: ufw): program for managing a netfilter firewall. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16 (hardy), package size 21 kB, installed size 204 kB
[17:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[17:30] <cannon> libxine1-ffmpeg <<< something i need to install?
[17:30] <flipstar> correc
[17:30] <flipstar> t
[17:30] <cannon> how?
[17:30] <flipstar> using adept_manager ..
[17:30] <cannon> and how on earth do you remember all this stuff? :P
[17:30] <flipstar> or sudo apt get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:30] <Jsn0327> thanks jpatrick
[17:30] <jpatrick> Jsn0327: you're welcome
[17:30] <jussi01> cannon: actually, kubuntu-restricted-extras is probably better
[17:31] <Jsn0327> how do you change the default webbrowser?  Everytime I open a hyperlink, it opens in konqueror, but i have firefox installed
[17:31] <jpatrick> Jsn0327: System Settings -> Default Apps
[17:32] <jussi01> Jsn0327: system settings -> default apps
[17:32] <jussi01> hehe
[17:32] <noisekiller> jsn0327
[17:32] <Jsn0327> thx
[17:32] <noisekiller> doh
[17:32] <cannon> lol, i just uninstalled konqueror :P
[17:32] <cannon> am surprised ubuntu doesn't come with it as standard
[17:32] <fuhreal> flipstar: how did u get that output ?
[17:33] <jussi01> cannon: what as standard?
[17:33] <flipstar> fuhreal: what ouput ?
[17:33] <cannon> ff
[17:33] <cannon> firefox
[17:33] <fuhreal> flipstar: all the apps u have installed
[17:33] <jussi01> cannon: ubuntu does iirc
[17:33] <niall_> yeah, it does
[17:34] <cannon> i'm talking about firefox browser
[17:34] <cannon> brb, need a reboot
[17:34] <niall_> tehre's a firefox something else? D:
[17:34] <flipstar> fuhreal: these are the apps i uninstalled :) i just made a list of unneded software installed by default somewhen
 cannon: ubuntu does iirc <<< lol, i didn;'t think so
[17:35] <fuhreal> flipstar:  ahhhh ..
[17:35] <flipstar> these apps are also installed with kubuntu-desktop ..
[17:36] <fuhreal> flipstar: yes .... i will need to remove many things that i won't be using
[17:36] <Respatix> Where at in the Konversation settings menu can i change for web links to pull up firefox instead of Konqueror?
[17:36] <fuhreal> flipstar:  but honestly, this Kbuntu is the best OS i've installed ever!!!..... 1 hour everyhting is up wihtout having to search for drivers and such
[17:36] <fuhreal> Respatix: change the default web browser in systemsetting -> default apps
[17:37] <flipstar> Respatix: in Konversation >configure>behavier>general>own webbrowser
[17:39] <klobster> Respatix: your still here tweaking your system?
[17:39] <Respatix> fuhreal: thanks
[17:39] <Respatix> flipstar: thank you also
[17:39] <Respatix> klobster: yes
[17:41] <Respatix> i finally figureed out how to access the bottom of my ktorrent preferences screen.  Im 720p so the bottom of the menu was off of bottom of screen and for some reason no scoll bars in menus
[17:42] <Respatix> middle mouse button or scoll wheel push and grab edge of screen to move up
[17:43] <the_necrocide> anyone here that dist-upgraded to hardy?
[17:43] <fuhreal> Now if i could just figure out how to get irssi to hide my net mask
[17:45] <Jsn0327> what is used to run .ram files?
[17:45] <flipstar> helix-player maybe
[17:45] <klobster> Respatix: well, glad your having fun! : P
[17:45] <Jsn0327> it's an installtion file
[17:45] <Jsn0327> installation
[17:45] <Jsn0327> i mean .rpm
[17:45] <flipstar> oh
[17:46] <flipstar> i would recommend to transform to deb with alien
[17:46] <Arwen> Jsn0327, you install RPMs with the "rpm" tool
[17:46] <Arwen> but on Debian-based distros like Ubuntu, you should use "alien" to convert them
[17:46] <Jsn0327> hmm
[17:47] <Jsn0327> is alien installed by default with kubuntu 7.10?
[17:47] <flipstar> guess not
[17:48] <fuhreal> whats alien?
[17:48] <flipstar> !info alien
[17:48] <ubotu> alien (source: alien): install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[17:49] <flipstar> lien allows you to convert LSB, Red Hat, Stampede and Slackware Packages into Debian packages, which can be installed with dpkg
[17:49] <fuhreal> interesting ...
[17:50] <fuhreal> dammit .. no ac outlet laptop dieing
[17:50] <fuhreal> peace !!!!
[17:50] <kde4> Hallo
[17:51] <jpatrick> !de | kde4
[17:51] <ubotu> kde4: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:52] <cuznt> ok going to change the fstab
[17:52] <cuznt>  <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[17:52] <cuznt> so for file system i would use my /dev/sdb
[17:53] <cuznt> how do i find my mount point?
[17:53] <flipstar> you have to create one i guess
[17:53] <flipstar> whereever you want it to be mounted
[17:53] <flipstar> probably in /media/something/
[17:53] <cuznt> even though it is as a slave?
[17:54] <Jsn0327> jpatrick: is ufw preinstalled in kbuntu gusty?  I tried to use apt-get but it couldn't find anything
[17:54] <flipstar> its a hardy app
[17:54] <jpatrick> Jsn0327: it's in hardy only
[17:54] <Jsn0327> so i need to install hardy?
[17:55] <flipstar> lol just install firestarter/guarddog
[17:55] <flipstar> or use iptables to specify rules
[17:55] <Jsn0327> well by what he said, i assumed that ufw was a hardy app that configured the built in firewall of kbuntu?
[17:55] <noisekiller> where do i turn IPv6 off? quick and easy?
[17:56] <jussi01> !ipv6
[17:56] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[17:56] <jussi01> noisekiller: ^
[17:56] <mjponce> i need some time 4 fun
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> That's still a problem?
[17:56] <Xk2c> noisekiller: in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[17:57] <mjponce> kde4 is great, but i have not much time 4 fun =(
[17:57] <noisekiller> Xk2c: Thanx
[17:58] <noisekiller> How do you know all this? :)
[17:58] <jussi01> noisekiller: experience...
[17:59] <Xk2c> noisekiller: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/109218/
[17:59] <mjponce> i have some troubles with time: i forget to sleep. =(
[17:59] <jussi01> mjponce: if you just want to chact, please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:59] <noisekiller> Experience ftw ... Cant even get my wifi back to WPA after switching to WEP.
[18:00] <mjponce> thanks jussi01
[18:00] <jussi01> :)
[18:00] <mjponce> =)
[18:01] <Jsn0327> is there a good "limewire" like app for ubuntu?
[18:01] <noisekiller> So when I couldnt go from WEP to WPA i lost it all and went unencrypted... Best way to configure WiFi or Eth?
[18:02] <klobster> frostwire
[18:02] <noisekiller> klobster: for me?
[18:02] <noisekiller> No sorry
[18:03] <Jsn0327> klobster: is that a good one?
[18:05] <craig> um just wondering if anyone knows of a list of the most useful and important repositorys cause i sort of deleted mine in a accident invoving kde4
[18:05] <jhutchins_wk> !repos
[18:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:06] <CraigGB> okay thanks so much :)
[18:07] <flipstar> Jsn0327: there are a linux client of limewire
[18:10] <Jsn0327> really
[18:10] <Jsn0327> is there a ubuntu version of skype?
[18:12] <flipstar> !skype
[18:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[18:13] <epimeth> good day, all!
[18:19] <FSHero> Hi all: I just bought an Epson Stylus DX7400 printer, and am trying to install it in Kubuntu 7.10 amd64
[18:20] <FSHero> I am using the Add Printer Wizard, but my printer is not listed (only goes as high as Stylus DX 4800)
[18:20] <FSHero> Will the drivers from their website work?
[18:20] <flipstar> yep
[18:21] <the_necrocide> is there a dummy package for openoffice?
[18:21] <flipstar> you dont need to install them just point to the ppd file
[18:21] <rene> Epson has good drivers
[18:22] <FSHero> ok thanks: I shall try!
[18:22] <epimeth> the_necrocide: a dummy package?
[18:22] <Respatix> flipstar: do know where i change settings in coversation to not show people joining or leaving channel?
[18:23] <the_necrocide> to install the whole thing in konsole
[18:23] <Jsn0327> why does linux LAN options have a field for "broadcast ip"  is that so that if someone tries to look up your ip they will get a faulse one?
[18:23] <flipstar> Respatix: nope..i also searched for it once..
[18:23] <Respatix> oh, but is that an option on some irc clients?
[18:23] <flipstar> the_necrocide: you can use prefixes like *
[18:24] <epimeth> Respatix: "Settings -> Configure Notifications"
[18:24] <the_necrocide> cheers!
[18:24] <Respatix> or is it something you would set w your nick and the servers
[18:24] <FSHero> Ok - there's no *buntu for the Epson drivers: shall I just use Debian drivers?
[18:24] <epimeth> the_necrocide: same package you would install otherwise...
[18:24] <epimeth> the_necrocide: I'm confused as to what, exactly, you want to know?
[18:24] <the_necrocide> my openoffice was completely busted up
[18:25] <the_necrocide> so I purged it
[18:25] <the_necrocide> and i want to do a clean reinstall
[18:25] <epimeth> Jsn0327: the "broadcast ip" is the ip used to send and receive packets sent to everyone on the subnet
[18:25] <epimeth> Jsn0327: its a general networking thing, not linux specific
[18:25] <epimeth> Jsn0327: is you do ipconfig /all in your windows box, you'll see it as well :-)
[18:26] <epimeth> Respatix: you saw it?
[18:26] <epimeth> the_necrocide: sudo apt-get install openoffice
[18:26] <epimeth> the_necrocide: that should do it....
[18:26] <Jsn0327> oh ok
[18:27] <the_necrocide> there is no package
[18:27] <the_necrocide> just found out its openoffice-common
[18:27] <the_necrocide> but you need to install writer/impress... seperately
[18:27] <Respatix> epimeth: i see the menu, but i see how you can get it not to show for instance that stefan just joined this channel?
[18:27] <FSHero> For Epson Stylus DX7400, there's no DEB package -- shall I just download the RPM?
[18:28] <Respatix> epimeth: but i dont see...
[18:28] <flipstar> FSHero: download the source..
[18:28] <flipstar> then point the wizard to the ppd file in the source
[18:29] <epimeth> Respatix: oh... sorry... I thought you could disable them there... hmmm.. .let me see if I can find it.
[18:29] <Respatix> epimeth: thanks
[18:29] <epimeth> the_necrocide: sorry... sudo apt-get install openoffice.orf
[18:29] <epimeth> the_necrocide: sorry... sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[18:30] <FSHero> flipstar: okay, this sounds scary...! but I'll try.
[18:30] <flipstar> it aint..
[18:30] <the_necrocide> epimeth: cheers!
[18:31] <epimeth> Respatix: settings->configure conversation->behavior->chat window->hide Join/Part/Nick events
[18:31] <epimeth> that should do the trick
[18:31] <epimeth> the_necrocide: nw
[18:34] <FSHero> ok, I've got the "pipslite" source tar and extracted it to my ~, so do I run "./configure" then "make" then "make install"?
[18:35] <flipstar> nope..
[18:35] <flipstar> just open the wizard..
[18:35] <flipstar> then click on add drivers and point to the ppd file in the source..
[18:35] <FSHero> You mean the KDE printer wizard?
[18:35] <flipstar> yep
[18:35] <FSHero> ok, I'm on it
[18:36] <flipstar> >add driver
[18:36] <Biggles> whats a cool app lol
[18:36] <Biggles> im bored
[18:37] <flipstar> compiz or kooldock or gkrellm are cool :)
[18:37] <FSHero> flipstar: sorry about this, I'm really n00b at doing stuff like this...
[18:37] <zimon> Biggles: fortune
[18:37] <FSHero> flipstar: do I go to "Add local printer" on the first screen of the wizard?
[18:37] <flipstar> jes..just like you did before
[18:38] <flipstar> but when the printer list comes click on add drivers
[18:38] <FSHero> flipstar: There's no "add drivers", but there is an "Other..." button; do I click that?
[18:38] <p-f> I am trying to load urxvt with transparency using the fairly basic "-tr -tint red -sh 40" option. I have set my wallpaper with "Esetroot $thefile", have I forgotten something?
[18:39] <flipstar> FSHero: yes
[18:39] <Jsn0327> is there a better LAN manager than knetworkmanager?  it doesn't even bring up the assigned ip address
[18:39] <flipstar> FSHero: then point to the ppd file in the source/ppd dir
[18:39] <flipstar> thats all
[18:41] <FSHero> flipstar: ok, I there's a pipslite-1.0.3/ppd/eklite.ppd file (no source folder, but there is an src folder)
[18:41] <FSHero> flipstar: is that the one?
[18:41] <flipstar> yes
[18:41] <flipstar> there is only one
[18:41] <flipstar> pipslite-1.0.3 is the 'source' dir i meant
[18:42] <epimeth> Jsn0327: whats so bad about KNetworkManager (except for its lack of support for configuring vpns)?
[18:42] <FSHero> flipstar: aha. thx
[18:42] <flipstar> now you have your printer in the list
[18:43] <Biggles> can wine run games?
[18:43] <flipstar> yes it can
[18:43] <Biggles> :)
[18:44] <FSHero> flipstar: yes, it the printer on the list was "LITE", so I clicked Next...
[18:44] <Biggles> ugh wtf im downloading this stuff sooooo slow :S
[18:44] <epimeth> Biggles: "sort of", I believe, is the official answer to that question....
[18:44] <Biggles> I don't know why it's so bad :S
[18:44] <flipstar> Biggles: ask you isp for an T3
[18:44] <FSHero> flipstar:... and then I clicked "print test page" but nothing happened
[18:44] <epimeth> Biggles: "It depends on which game you want to install" is the best I can come up with
[18:44] <FSHero> flipstar: are you sure I don't have to compile the drivers?
[18:44] <Jsn0327> when i right click on it and goto options/show connection information  it says no active device
[18:45] <Biggles> ok
[18:45] <flipstar> FSHero: guess yes..you now have selected you printer ?
[18:45] <flipstar> at least for me it worked
[18:46] <Biggles> flipstar: I have I guess standard cable... All of my other computers are fairly fast except this one :S
[18:46] <Biggles> it's like a turtle
[18:46] <flipstar> Biggles: maybe something wrong with your setting? see http://speedguide.net:8080/
[18:47] <Jsn0327> what is the command to disable the root acct?
[18:48] <FSHero> flipstar: to compile the drivers, is it "./configure", "make", "make install"? (No sudo or anything)
[18:48] <jpatrick> FSHero: sudo make install
[18:48] <Dragnslcr> Jsn0327- you can't, nor would you want to
[18:49] <FSHero> jpatrick: thx
[18:49] <flipstar> sudo for the installation..>sudo make install to make it access for everyone
[18:49] <FSHero> ok, I shall try compiling the drivers
[18:49] <Lucidiot> Alright.  I'm gonna do it.  I'm switching to kubuntu :/
[18:50] <FSHero> Ok, I got this error: "configure: error: *** 'cups-config' missing, please install CUPS or fix your $PATH ***"
[18:50] <Jsn0327> yes you can and yes i want to.  i've read articles that say to disable it because you can use sudo for most all root commands. and every wonna be hacker tries to brute force your boot account
[18:51] <nii> can anyone show me i can get help on xbox
[18:51] <FSHero> flipstar: I'm pretty sure I have CUPS: because I was using an HP Deskjet 950C prior to this
[18:51] <FSHero> flipstar: Also, are you sure the RPM package won't work?
[18:51] <Lucidiot> 6.5 hours left!!  woohoo!
[18:51] <Lucidiot> md5sums better match.... or else
[18:52] <Lucidiot> -.-
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <Dragnslcr> Jsn0327- did you set a root password?
[18:52] <flipstar> FSHero: cups-config is in libcupsys2-dev
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <nii>  can anyone show me i can get help on xbox or if you can help me?
[18:52] <Jsn0327> no not yet
[18:52] <FSHero> flipstar: ok thx i'm installing it now
[18:53] <stdin> !repeat | nii
[18:53] <jpatrick> !repeat | nii
[18:53] <ubotu> nii: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:53] <Lucidiot> nii, that would probably mean "no"
[18:53] <Jsn0327> can you use scratchbox for unbuntu or is there another app to compile source for ubuntu
[18:53] <Lucidiot> nii: RTFM
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> Jsn0327- logging in as root is disabled by default in Ubuntu, so if you didn't set a password, you don't have to do anything
[18:53] <Bong> hallo
[18:53] <Jsn0327> cool thanks
[18:54] <FSHero> flipstar: ok, no errors upon ./configure now!
[18:54] <FSHero> flipstar: so Ishall do sudo make
[18:54] <flipstar> no..
[18:54] <flipstar> without sudo
[18:54] <FSHero> flipstar: btw, thanks for helping. I'm quite desperate now!!!
[18:54] <Bong> it is her a german chanel
[18:54] <FSHero> flipstar: ok
[18:54] <flipstar> Bong: #kubuntu-de
[18:54] <jpatrick> !de | Bong
[18:54] <ubotu> Bong: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:54] <Lucidiot> what's the big difference between gutsy and dapper?
[18:55] <Jsn0327> can you use scratchbox for unbuntu or is there another app to compile source for ubuntu
[18:55] <Bong> ah ok thanks
[18:56] <Lucidiot> um... gcc, Jsn0327?  lol
[18:56] <FSHero> flipstar: ok, I got some errors upon "make"... I put it in the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59715/
[18:56] <Dragnslcr> Jsn0327- your own code, or a source .tar.gz that you downloaded?
[18:57] <Dragnslcr> Jsn0327- source code you download from somewhere should have installation instructions with it (usually just configure/make/make install)
[18:58] <FSHero> flipstar: I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, but I think it should work because I have gcc 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2), and the Epson website said gcc 3.4 or later
[19:00] <Jsn0327> it's source that i downloaded
[19:00] <Jsn0327> i figured that i had to compile it with the ubuntu kernal so that it would work with kernal
[19:00] <Jsn0327> in maemo you have to use scratchbox
[19:04] <Biggles> ugh is there a better archiver then ark?
[19:04] <FSHero> flipstar: I'll try again another time, because I have to go :(
[19:04] <FSHero> flipstar: thanks again for the help
[19:04] <flipstar> file-roller
[19:05] <Jsn0327> does anyone use amule?
[19:05] <flipstar> yep
[19:06] <Jsn0327> what is the working server list url?  the default one does not work
[19:07] <epimeth> Biggles: "better", "easier"?
[19:07] <flipstar> try google emule server list
[19:07] <epimeth> Biggles: "better", "more options"?
[19:08] <epimeth> Biggles: which "better" do you mean?
[19:08] <Biggles> one that works properly ;)
[19:08] <epimeth> Biggles: ark works just fine for me.... whats the problem?
[19:08] <Biggles> more options wouldn't hurt
[19:09] <epimeth> Biggles: then you pretty much have to go with cli...
[19:09] <Biggles> cant extract this, cant open that
[19:09] <flipstar> i prefer winrar over wine..
[19:09] <flipstar> for packing
[19:09] <epimeth> Biggles: oh... wait... what archives are you trying to open?
[19:09] <Biggles> ohh i never thought of that
[19:10] <epimeth> Biggles: you might need to get a plugin?
[19:10] <flipstar> for unpacking password protected files you might get the latest version from website or use file-roller ..
[19:11] <Biggles> well the one that isnt opening is a .zip and i fixed the one that wouldnt extract
[19:11] <Biggles> im installing file-roller right now
[19:11] <Biggles> this adept manager is really useful :)
[19:12] <Biggles> they should have something like that for mac
[19:12] <Biggles> an app where you can download and upgrade a bunch of freewear apps
[19:15] <grandi> but then they would use free software and Steve Jobs would starve to death
[19:15] <Biggles> im pretty sure he can live off of phones and mp3 players :P
[19:16] <flipstar> iphone make about 40% of there money
[19:16] <Biggles> and the computers cost enough already
[19:16] <flipstar> err ipod
[19:16] <Biggles> like my iMac was almost $2000
[19:16] <booker_> i need help getting the SAMBA server to work in Kubuntu - if anyone can help, please let me know
[19:18] <Biggles> I think it was worth it... i really like it, and its quiet so i can leave it on all night and not be bothered...
[19:18] <Biggles> I wanna build my own computer now :)
[19:19] <booker_> if anybody can help, please PM me
[19:26] <Jsn0327> how do you force close a program?  like alt+ctrl+del in windows?
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+esc
[19:27] <Jsn0327> thanks
[19:29] <farhat> hey there!
[19:30] <epimeth> hi :-)
[19:33] <Biggles> umm how do i add in a new icon set in configure? like which file am i supposed to install?
[19:34] <nosrednaekim> Biggles: should be just a .tgz
[19:34] <nosrednaekim> !icons
[19:34] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> !themes
[19:35] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:36] <Biggles> i keep trying to add in archives but it keeps erroring saying that it isnt a valid theme archive
[19:38] <Biggles> is it because they end in .tar.gz anFilesd .zip?
[19:38] <Jsn0327> i'm trying to setup java runtime in terminal.  how do you click the OK at the bottom of the page?
[19:39] <Jsn0327> nevermind i figured it out
[19:39] <flipstar> tab
[19:44] <Jsn0327> man i don't know what the hell is up with amule but everytime that i input the ipfilter update url and press update, it gets to 2megs on the download and the program closes!?
[19:45] <Biggles> ahh i don't know whats wrong :S
[19:46] <fuhreal> Anyone know a prog for keeping like a journal?
[19:47] <flipstar> Jsn0327: which version are you using ?
[19:48] <flipstar> you could also add one server manually and trough this get other servers
[19:49] <Jsn0327> 2.1.3
[19:50] <Jsn0327> i don't have a problem with the servers.  the problem that i am having is with the ipfilter url
[19:51] <Biggles> is there like a kubuntu theme channel?
[19:51] <frida> que es esto
[19:51] <frida> hola
[19:52] <vhozard> anyone with a XXODD laptop?
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> Biggles: no
[19:52] <gary4gar> how to upgrade from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4 on Gutsy, Gnome+KDE
[19:53] <vhozard> sudo apt-get install kde4-core
[19:53] <flipstar> on gutsy you need to add repos
[19:53] <gary4gar> vhozard, will this upgrade or make a new install?
[19:53] <gary4gar> flatface, which are?
[19:54] <vhozard> gary4gar first add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
[19:54] <gary4gar> i have the Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10
[19:54] <vhozard> gary4gar i know but add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:54] <gary4gar> and installed kde in it
[19:54] <gary4gar> vhozard, k
[19:55] <frida> alguien habla españoll
[19:55] <flipstar> gary4gar: you probably want to keep you currently kde 3.5
[19:55] <gary4gar> flipstar, kde4 too buggy?
[19:56] <vhozard> i am using KDE4 right now and i can say that you can use it good
[19:56] <ubuntu> hi
[19:56] <vhozard> but 3.5.9 is more stable
[19:56] <flipstar> frida: #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es
[19:56] <ubuntu> do you know how long it will take a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda knowing that sda is a 250gb sata2 hard disk
[19:57] <flipstar> ubuntu use sudo fdisk to determine
[19:57] <gary4gar> vhozard, for stable things i use Gnome, i want to try out the latest KDE4
[19:58] <vhozard> gary4gar then you can install kde4
[19:58] <gary4gar> but i hope it will not spoil my current setup
[19:58] <gary4gar> and i don't have to install Ubuntu again
[19:58] <gary4gar> will it mess up with my current install?
[19:58] <vhozard> gary4gar no
[19:59] <flipstar> probably not, you can select kde4 or kde3 from kdm login manager
[19:59] <gary4gar> vhozard, Thanks a Ton!
[19:59] <astan> anyone know a solution for this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-596077.html ?
[19:59] <vhozard> gary4gar no problemo
[19:59]  * gary4gar proceeds with install of kde4
[19:59] <gary4gar> flipstar, can't i just upgrade my current install, i just want it to mess with my gnome install
[20:00] <vhozard> anyone with a XXODD laptop?
[20:00] <flipstar> you might ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:01] <gary4gar> flipstar, why a new channel for kde4?
[20:02] <flipstar> this channel is kde4 dedicated
[20:02] <jpatrick> gary4gar: to help out KDE 4 users better
[20:03] <gary4gar> its too many channels
[20:03] <gary4gar> it would confuse users
[20:03] <gary4gar> where to go for what
[20:03] <jpatrick> gary4gar: plan is to close it after hardy release
[20:04] <gary4gar> good then
[20:05] <jpatrick> when KDE4 is officically in Kubuntu
[20:05] <gary4gar> when on earth is that going to happen?
[20:05] <gary4gar> isn't this one
[20:05] <gary4gar> www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php
[20:07] <jpatrick> 3~/win 14
[20:08] <jpatrick> gary4gar: as in part of default install
[20:08] <gary4gar> oh
[20:08] <gary4gar> jpatrick, tentive date is 24 april?
[20:08] <jpatrick> !hardy
[20:08] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:08] <jpatrick> gary4gar: not sure exact date..
[20:09] <gary4gar> jpatrick, but its not gonna be a LTS :(
[20:09] <jpatrick> gary4gar: please read http://alioth.debian.org/~jpatrick-guest/minutes/2007/12/kubuntu-meeting-20071222.pdf
[20:09] <martijn81> why are 1080 HD movies shocking on my pc?
[20:10]  * gary4gar download & starts reading jpatrick report
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: cause they are HUGE?
[20:11] <Biggles> i dont get it i cant install these icons :S
[20:11] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: true, true, but my pc is rather new
[20:12] <flipstar> martijn81: which player are you using ?
[20:12] <gary4gar> jpatrick, who is incharge of shipit?
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: and even my crappy computer can play 720 easily
[20:12] <martijn81> flipstar: kmplayer with mplayer engine (seems the best for HD 720p movies)
[20:12] <jpatrick> gary4gar: Canonical
[20:12] <Biggles> every time I try to add them to thr apperience menu I alyways get this is not a valid theme archive
[20:13] <Biggles> what is a valid theme archive?
[20:13] <marina> How can I install realvideos codecs for mplayer?
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> Biggles: link to the theme you are trying to install?
[20:13] <gary4gar> jpatrick, i have a suggestion for them, whats the best place to post it?
[20:13] <flipstar> nosrednaekim: did you installed some special codecs or something ?
[20:13] <jpatrick> gary4gar: no clue :-/
[20:13] <Biggles> 1 sec,
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: nope... but the are 1080 in mpeg4, recoded off the air
[20:13] <gary4gar> jpatrick, :S
[20:14] <martijn81> lemme try with vlc
[20:14] <flipstar> hm 1080p and 1080i always stuck here..
[20:14] <jpatrick> gary4gar: what suggestion is it?
[20:14] <flipstar> martijn81: for me just mplayer is the best
[20:14] <martijn81> yeah, for me too
[20:15] <flipstar> try one without kmplayer..only mplayer..
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> kaffeine works for me
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> and mythfrontend
[20:16] <Biggles> ugh my internet is f'ed today
[20:18] <martijn81> flipstar: mplayer itself only gives me fatal error
[20:18] <gary4gar> jpatrick, 1) Shipit should ship LTS only releases. 2) There is be option of selecting between alternate install DISC, as once we install Ubuntu, we can't upgrade though live CD. 3) Try & make system more tough, like adding a text box for "why you want Ubuntu, Can't download it off the Internet"
[20:18] <gary4gar> I Vote for second one the most
[20:18] <jpatrick> gary4gar: there will be no shipit release
[20:19] <jpatrick> gary4gar: _Canonical_ has decided not to
[20:19] <gary4gar> jpatrick, what, please say again
[20:19] <jpatrick> gary4gar: please /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <Jsn0327> I'm having a problem with my desktop
[20:19] <gary4gar> jpatrick, i am in :)
[20:20] <Jsn0327> for some reason my wife was watching a video in firefox and now my mouse curser is a small circle with a line threw it like a cancel symbol and there's a floating little book with a pensil and i can't click on anything
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: whats the problem?
[20:20] <Jsn0327> wha tis this?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> I suppose a screenshot would be rather hard?
[20:21] <Jsn0327> whats your email?
[20:22] <jpatrick> Jsn0327: imageshack.us
[20:22] <Jsn0327> ok
[20:22] <Jsn0327> whats the hotkey to minimize all windows?
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> isn't one afaik
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> (by default)
[20:23] <Jsn0327> what about to display the desktop
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> there is that button on the panel, but you can't click it I suppose
[20:24] <Jsn0327> nevermind for some reason when i opened another window in firefox i got my curser back
[20:24] <Jsn0327> wiredest thing i've ever seen
[20:24] <Jsn0327> wierd*
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> wierd
[20:26] <Tyler> helo
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> hey Tyler
[20:26] <jpatrick> !hi | Tyler
[20:26] <ubotu> Tyler: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:26]  * jpatrick booos at nosrednaekim 
[20:26] <Tyler> it is my first time here
[20:26] <jpatrick> Tyler: welcome!
[20:26] <Tyler> thank
[20:27]  * nosrednaekim prods the bot to boo back at jpatrick
[20:27] <Tyler> iam french a speak a bad english...
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> !fr | there is a french channel
[20:27] <mimmo> ciao
[20:27] <ubotu> there is a french channel: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:27] <mimmo> !list
[20:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:27] <jpatrick> mimmo: those don't work here
[20:27] <jpatrick> !it | mimmo
[20:27] <ubotu> mimmo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:28] <Tyler> thank for the french channel bye everyone!
[20:29] <Tyler> there is nobody on the french channel...
[20:29] <Tyler> tho
[20:29] <jpatrick> Tyler: yes there is
[20:29] <jpatrick> Tyler: type: "/join #kubuntu-fr" or "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[20:30] <niko_> hi all
[20:30] <Tyler> nobody who speak there are all deads!
[20:30] <niko_> i've configured my wifi atheros chiposet with mad wifi
[20:30] <jpatrick> !weekend | Tyler
[20:30] <ubotu> Tyler: It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> niko_: ok.... I am familiar with that
[20:32] <Tyler> ha it is a channel to answer to questions? I thought it is juste chat channel for fun what it is realy?
[20:32] <jpatrick> Tyler: chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:34] <Tyler> goodnight to all !
[20:37]  * pascalFR__ is away: Parti pour l'instant.
[20:37] <ita> hi there
[20:38] <ita> is the file QWebView present on kubuntu ?
[20:38] <niko_> nosrednaekim:
[20:38] <niko_> sorry
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> ita: that is, IIRC, a qt4.4 class
[20:38] <niko_> ok
[20:38] <niko_> my trouble
[20:39] <ita> nosrednaekim: someone is telling me it does not exist (only qwebview.h is present)
[20:39] <niko_> my cardo works, but now discover only a wlan connection, not the mine
[20:39] <nite613> !esd
[20:39] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[20:39] <nite613> !alsa
[20:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> niko_: it seens other connections, but not your's?
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> *sees
[20:40] <niko_> the yeap
[20:40] <nii> i need help on my amarook it cnat play mp3
[20:40] <nite613> I have an app that only works well with esd. Arts and esd sometimes seem to battle for the sound though, is there a way to go back to esd?
[20:41] <nii>  i need help on my amarook it cnat play mp3
[20:41] <nii>  i need help on my amarook it cnat play mp3
[20:41] <nite613> nii: See the alsa comment above. If you're running the stock kernerl and arts is running, then amarok should just work
[20:41] <nii>  i need help on my amarook it cnat play mp3
[20:41] <nite613> would you mind not spamming the channel?
[20:41] <nii> ok
[20:42] <nii> sorry
[20:42] <roland> hello all
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> nite613: yeah,.... I think you can kill ars
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> *arts
[20:42] <roland> anyone faced an error where it asks to check if DCOPSERVER  program is running ?
[20:42] <nite613> nosrednaekim: I can, but then all of my kde stuff doesn't make noises anymore.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> !mp3| nii
[20:42] <ubotu> nii: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:42] <niko_> nosrednaekim:
[20:43] <nite613> nosrednaekim: Do you know if I can tell my kde apps to talk to esd instead and just ditch arts until I no longer need this legacy app?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> niko_: I see, run, on the command line "iwlist ath0 scan"
[20:44] <niko_> ok
[20:44] <niko_> now no scan result
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> nite613: I think if you go into systemsettings->sound and multimediayou can tell kde to release control of the sound system after arts is idle for a certain amount of time.... set that ammount to "immdiately" or 0
[20:47] <niko_> no scan do a report....
[20:47] <nite613> nosrednaekim: Thanks I'll try that.
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> niko_: interesting... is ath0 "up"?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> niko_: i.e., shown with a "ifconfig"
[20:50] <nite613> nosrednaekim: One last question. If I want to start esd after arts, where should I put it? I tried running it from .kde/Autostart and esd would startup but my esd-dependent application would hang on sound init
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> is esd a service?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> like, is it in /etc/init.d?
[20:50] <atomicpotato> enlightened sound DAEMON
[20:50] <atomicpotato> so yeah
[20:51] <nite613> no, no init script
[20:51] <nite613> unless it's names something funny...
[20:51] <atomicpotato> it's part of GNOME iirc
[20:51] <atomicpotato> it's also deprecated now iirc
[20:51] <roland_> anyone faced an error where it asks to check if DCOPSERVER  program is running ?
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> roland_: yes.....
[20:51] <nite613> I do  esd & ./myapp   and it works great, but when auto started with my session something goes wrong
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> what is the exact error?
[20:51] <nite613> atomicpotato: definitely deprecated, but I have a legacy app
[20:52] <niko_> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59740/
[20:55] <d3jake> Alright, I managed to uninstall my video drivers when looking in the package manager for my video card (7600GT) When I rebooted I was given a console with no trace of a GUI in sight. I tried to install the NVIDIA driver package I had downloaded easiler, but upon typing "lsmod | grep nvidia"  I get no response.
[20:55] <d3jake> Who's the lucky person to help me fix it :p
[20:55] <d3jake> I tried to just do a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new but it says that the package doesn't exist
[20:55] <atomicpotato> try "modprobe nvidia"
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> niko_: probably a dumb question, but is your laptop wireless switch on?
[20:56] <atomicpotato> d3jake, apt-get update probably
[20:56] <niko_> yeap
[20:56] <d3jake> "ERROR running instal command for NIVIDA"
[20:56] <niko_> i tried turning off
[20:56] <niko_> and again on
[20:56] <d3jake> neat name BTW
[20:56] <nosrednaekim> d3jake: ok, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg".... that should give you the GUI again when you reboot
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> niko_: what laptop is it?
[20:57] <niko_> acer aspire 5520g
[20:57] <d3jake> Ah, good.. Thanks
[20:57] <niko_> with an ar5007eg
[20:58] <niko_> but lspci listed it like an AR5006EG
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> I think the two are fairly similar
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> googling the laptopnow
[20:59] <niko_> -.o
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> niko_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584890
[21:01] <niko_> so the problem maybe tha acer_acpi module?
[21:02] <niko_> but i have madwifi driver
[21:02] <niko_> i don't want the ndiswrapper....
[21:02] <d3jake> Thanks for the help!
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> niko_: you may have to use ndiswrapper.... I also have an atheros that is very finicky with the madwifi, so I jst use ndiswrapper
[21:03] <hkcera> Hey!
[21:03] <hkcera> I've got a question
[21:03] <niko_> but with ndis wrapper
[21:04] <niko_> can u use it in monitor mode and ofr snirfing?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> niko_: don't think so
[21:05] <hkcera> How can I install php5 in kubuntu?
[21:06] <hydrogen> !php
[21:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:06] <niko_> but io need to monitorg my network security
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> niko_: then fight with madwifi, but I garuntee you it won'tbe fun
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> niko_: acer_acpi might be a good place to start though
[21:07] <niko_> even if i had madwifi installed?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> havete go
[21:10] <niko_> waz?
[21:13] <janmalte> how do i know which version of swiftweasel is the right one for me?
[21:14] <niko_> it tells me
[21:14] <agent-orange> hello everyone, anyone know any programs to grab my contacts off of my sidekick 3?
[21:14] <niko_> that the acer-acpi isn't installable
[21:14] <niko_> o.O
[21:14] <niko_> i'm going crazy!
[21:16] <niko_> okiz
[21:16] <niko_> i only wrong repo eheheh
[21:18] <foibles> http://lifehacker.com/367714/run-windows-apps-seamlessly-inside-linux
[21:18] <foibles> has anyone seen this?
[21:18] <foibles> it looks intriguing
[21:23] <martijn81> foibles: i have the newest kubuntu kde4 running like that
[21:24] <helcaraxe> ello
[21:24] <helcaraxe> I'll follow the first answer
[21:25] <helcaraxe> is it worth converting from Vista to Kubuntu :P?
[21:25] <Dragnslcr> No
[21:25] <martijn81> helcaraxe: make that from XP to Kubuntu, Vista is out of the question
[21:32] <helcaraxe> :O lol Dragnsclr
[21:32] <helcaraxe> was expecting a different answer :P
[21:33] <Dragnslcr> If he was expecting a certain answer, why did he bother asking?
[21:34] <foibles> martijn81, is it any good?
[21:35] <martijn81> foibles: it works for me, dunno, i haven' t really use Vmware
[21:35] <martijn81> *used
[21:35] <foibles> what programs have you used it for
[21:36] <martijn81> only for kde distro's
[21:51] <Biggles> where do i place fonts for themes?
[21:52] <warren_> in .fonts maybe
[21:52] <warren_> ~/.fonts
[21:54] <Biggles> oh lol
[21:55] <Biggles> didnt see that folder
[21:57] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Whenever I pop in a DVD+RW disc, with some data on it, my computer says it either can't mount it or it's blank.  Any ideas?
[22:03] <Daller> Nogen danske brugere her?
[22:03] <jpatrick> !dk | Daller
[22:03] <ubotu> Daller: For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[22:04] <Daller> Jeg forsøger bare at få fat i danske kubuntu brugere...
[22:04] <Daller> Any danish kubuntu users here?
[22:04] <Ertain> Nein, nyet, nanka, however you want to say "no". :-(
[22:05] <Daller> Ertain> How do you know that?
[22:06] <Ertain> Sadly, I don't. :-'(
[22:07] <Daller> Anyway, reason is that I'm the webmaster of www.kubuntu.dk - And I would like to gather some people to make the site a "spread-the-word" site, instead of being a news-page only.
[22:07] <bfrog> is there a way to remove all of kubuntu-desktop and install ubuntu-desktop instead?
[22:07] <bfrog> and vice versa?
[22:08] <bfrog> like really easily
[22:08] <Daller> Well, it's not done easily, nor thoroughly... A clean-install is way better!
[22:08] <Daller> IMO, that is!
[22:08] <bfrog> I thought apt was supposed to be awesome
[22:09] <bfrog> you can't remove meta packages completely?
[22:09] <Daller> 2s
[22:11] <Daller> Maybe this will get you some of the way... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FromUbuntuToKubuntu
[22:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> a clean install?
[22:12] <bfrog> wow, thats retarded
[22:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> you have got to be kidding.
[22:12] <bfrog> so it really doesn't remove meta packages
[22:12] <bfrog> like... the right way
[22:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> hint: use aptitude
[22:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> it handles dependencies better
[22:12] <atomicpotato> bfrog, it can remove *automatically installed* packages
[22:13] <atomicpotato> but if the package was always installed, it can't auto-remove it
[22:13] <bfrog> ok, but when I say "remove my meta package"
[22:13] <bfrog> I really mean
[22:13] <atomicpotato> basically, it works by creating a list of what was installed when you installed X
[22:13] <bfrog> remove all the packages that the meta package installed
[22:13] <bfrog> not just that entry
[22:13] <Daisuke-Laptop> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop.
[22:13] <atomicpotato> doesn't work unless the metapackage was manually installed
[22:13] <bfrog> which it wasn't, because I used the CD
[22:13] <Daisuke-Laptop> bfrog: do you have a reasonably powerful pc?
[22:14] <bfrog> most definitely
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> are you *really* hurting for hard drive space?
[22:14] <bfrog> thats not the issue
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> then there's absolutely zero point worrying about it
[22:14] <bfrog> the menu's get ridiculously messy
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> so edit them down.
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> or remove individual apps that you don't use
[22:14] <bfrog> so what your saying is... I should do all the work
[22:14] <bfrog> instead of the package manager
[22:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> god forbid!
[22:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm saying you can use the package manager to remove apps you don't need, removing them from the menu.
[22:16] <bfrog> wow, apt fails
[22:17]  * Daisuke-Laptop shrugs
[22:17] <bfrog> pacman doesn't do stupidity like that
[22:17] <Daisuke-Laptop> if you're too lazy to learn to use it effectively, i don't feel sorry for you.  it doesn't read minds.
[22:17] <bfrog> uh no, it should just remove all packages associated with the meta package, I don't see whats so wrong with that
[22:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> what if other apps depend on things in there
[22:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> especially in the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop metapackages
[22:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> and i already told you how to do that
[22:18] <atomicpotato> bfrog, seeing as ubuntu-desktop depends on EVERYTHING you have
[22:19] <atomicpotato> I don't think you want that auto-removed
[22:19] <bfrog> well, thats useless then, so no one has a quick command to swap completely the desktops
[22:19] <bfrog> I see that as a failure
[22:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> i don't say this often
[22:20] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with something in KDE? My menues have rounded corners and I want to UNround them. Where exactly do I do that? I've been in every system setting and im not sure where to do it.
[22:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> but good riddance.
[22:20] <atomicpotato> lancerocke, ah, that took me a while to find too
[22:21] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: where is it bro?
[22:21] <atomicpotato> appearance -> kcontrol -> window decoration -> crystal must be selected -> general -> round corners
[22:21] <atomicpotato> well, actually, kcontrol -> appearance -> [...] but
[22:21]  * atomicpotato always hated round edges too :-)
[22:22] <lancerocke> k brb
[22:22] <ForsakenSoul> can someone help me with kooldock controls ... i'm trying to add a shortcut to the Desktop Icon
[22:22] <Biggles> how do i install this?  :  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal?content=13969
[22:22] <ForsakenSoul> Desktop access i ment
[22:23] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: i dont have crystal
[22:23] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: im using domino
[22:23] <atomicpotato> oh, then domino has to support it
[22:23] <atomicpotato> it's up to the decoration engine
[22:23] <Biggles> i need to install crystal :)
[22:23] <atomicpotato> Biggles, it should be installed by default
[22:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> you know that crystal is installed by default, right?
[22:24] <atomicpotato> kwin-style-crystal iirc
[22:24] <Biggles> nope :P
[22:24] <lancerocke> i guess ill tey to install crytal
[22:24] <lancerocke> brb
[22:24] <lancerocke> thanks
[22:24]  * Daisuke-Laptop facepalms
[22:25] <ForsakenSoul> how can i set in kooldock an icon that would represent Desktop Access
[22:29] <lancerocke> this here says CMAKE... http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal?content=75140 . Im in the CMAKElist.txt and I dont understand what I'm reading here
[22:31] <lancerocke> Anyone?
[22:31] <foibles> is it possible to install unreal tournament goty in linux?
[22:31] <foibles> without using wine
[22:31] <foibles> ive heard of linux binaries
[22:32] <atomicpotato> lancerocke, download it, install kde-dev, untar it, cd, make, make install
[22:32] <atomicpotato> then perhaps symlink a bit to get the right install location
[22:32] <Ax-Ax> What is the easiest way to recode FLACs to constant bitrate instead of varying?
[22:32] <atomicpotato> Ax-Ax, flac -d file.flac
[22:32] <atomicpotato> then you get CBR WAV
[22:33] <Ax-Ax> ?
[22:33] <atomicpotato> what?
[22:33] <atomicpotato> flac is a command, -d is decode, file.flac is the file you want to make CBR
[22:33] <atomicpotato> you'll end up with a "file.wav" that's a CBR WAV
[22:33] <Ax-Ax> i understood
[22:33] <Ax-Ax> but
[22:34] <Ax-Ax> isn't there cbr flac?
[22:34] <atomicpotato> no...
[22:34] <Ax-Ax> okay
[22:34] <atomicpotato> because FLAC is lossless and therefore can not do any kind of rate control
[22:36] <Ax-Ax> and it's the same bitrate as wav at max?
[22:36] <atomicpotato> yes
[22:36] <Ax-Ax> that makes sense
[22:36] <Daisuke-Laptop> foibles: it is possible and it's not that difficult
[22:36] <Daisuke-Laptop> though you will be using the terminal
[22:36] <naught101> hrrm... knetwork manager is telling me I have no devices, however I just ran dhclient, and I'm now on the 'net on eth0
[22:37] <naught101> anyone know how to fix knetworkmanager?
[22:37] <Daisuke-Laptop> define "fix"
[22:38] <naught101> Daisuke-Laptop: temporary fix, this session, get it to register my network ports
[22:38] <naught101> (wifi and ethernet
[22:38] <atomicpotato> amarok visualizations... what kind of stupid idea is a visualization that doesn't actually embed in the player?
[22:38] <Daisuke-Laptop> atomicpotato: the same kind of visualizations that have been used for years in winamp.
[22:38] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: danny@danny-desktop:~/Desktop/crystal-2.0.1$ make
[22:38] <lancerocke> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[22:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> lancerocke: kcontrol > appearance > window decorations
[22:39] <root> buenasç
[22:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> crystal is the default.
[22:39] <atomicpotato> lancerocke, oh yeah, ./configure too
[22:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> has been for almost two years
[22:39] <atomicpotato> Daisuke-Laptop, well, no reason he can't build his own
[22:39] <atomicpotato> it'll be a few versions more recent too
[22:39] <lancerocke> Daisuke-Laptop: I dont have crystal
[22:39] <Daisuke-Laptop> lancerocke: are you using kubuntu?
[22:40] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: danny@danny-desktop:~/Desktop/crystal-2.0.1$ ./configure
[22:40] <lancerocke> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[22:40] <lancerocke> danny@danny-desktop:~/Desktop/crystal-2.0.1$
[22:40] <forsakensoul> how can i set a bootsplash ?
[22:40] <lancerocke> Daisuke-Laptop: Yes
[22:40] <atomicpotato> oh, dunno then
[22:40] <Daisuke-Laptop> lancerocke: then you have crystal, it isn't an optional package.
[22:40] <atomicpotato> Daisuke-Laptop, actually it is. You can uninstall it.
[22:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> you can uninstall it, so why not just reinstall it from the repos?
[22:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> rather than futzing around with trying to compile it
[22:41] <atomicpotato> well, 2.0.1 looks pretty new
[22:41] <atomicpotato> maybe it's exciting or something
[22:42] <atomicpotato> hmm, amarok visualizations really hurt my compiz framerate
[22:42] <Daisuke-Laptop> alrighty then
[22:42] <Daisuke-Laptop> good luck
[22:42] <lancerocke> Daisuke-Laptop: If I could show you a screenshot I would, but Crytal is not there. system settings>style
[22:42] <atomicpotato> oh, Crystal 2.x is broken by the way
[22:42] <lancerocke> crystal is not there
[22:42] <atomicpotato> no psuedo-transparency
[22:43] <atomicpotato> lancerocke, uh, not under style
[22:43] <lancerocke> oooooooooooooooo
[22:43] <lancerocke> got it
[22:43] <lancerocke> oops
[22:43] <atomicpotato> under "window decoration" :-P{
[22:43] <lancerocke> atomicpotato: so how do i unround the corners again?
[22:44] <lancerocke> go tit
[22:44] <atomicpotato> lol
[22:44]  * atomicpotato hates those silly round corners. They don't even look round.
[22:44] <lancerocke> brb
[22:44]  * Daisuke-Laptop refacepalms
[22:45] <atomicpotato> hmm?
[22:47] <Daisuke-Laptop> atomicpotato: that it was there all along
[22:47] <forsakensoul> can someone tell me how can i set a bootsplash
[22:47] <Daisuke-Laptop> !usplash | forsakensoul
[22:47] <ubotu> forsakensoul: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[22:52] <Biggles> how exactly do you install domino?
[22:54] <^u^> !domino
[22:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:55] <^u^> !info domino
[22:55] <ubotu> Package domino does not exist in gutsy
[23:11] <dedi> anyone knows a good backup software?
[23:12] <^u^> !mondo
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mondo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:13] <^u^> !mindi
[23:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mindi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:13] <Daisuke_Ido> !keep
[23:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <^u^> !ifo mondo
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifo mondo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <^u^> !info mondo
[23:15] <ubotu> mondo (source: mondo): powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.22-1 (gutsy), package size 404 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[23:16] <^u^> !info mindi
[23:16] <ubotu> mindi (source: mindi): creates boot/root disks based on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.22-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 153 kB, installed size 744 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 ia64)
[23:27] <Ax-Ax> How do i disable the ntp server?
[23:27] <Ax-Ax> /etc/init.d/ntp
[23:35] <janmalte> will the crontable of a user be executed even if he isn't logged in?
[23:35] <ambroise> jlkjkkl
[23:36] <kgoetz> janmalte: yes
[23:36] <janmalte> thx
[23:46] <Y-Town> is there a way to reset the bottom menu in kde back to default?  I kinda oopsed and doesnt work real well now  :o)
[23:53] <dthacker> Y-Town: you may want to look at this thread...http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/kubuntu-how-do-i-restore-the-k-menu-546218/