[03:08] does anyone find the 2.6.24-12 kernel slower than the 2.6.24-11 ? === __onestone is now known as onestone === joerlend__ is now known as XiXaQ === fta is now known as fta_ === fta_ is now known as fta === joerlend_ is now known as XiXaQ [17:03] anyone alive? [19:44] buenas [19:44] hi === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [22:30] any ideas how I should integrate apple-like multitouch into X? [23:00] tannewt: already done [23:12] Amaranth: you mean MPX? [23:12] yes [23:13] Amaranth: it seems overly complex for what I'd like to do [23:13] that's kind of the point :) [23:13] Amaranth: I dont need to worry about multiple points and multiple focii [23:13] it can do everything, it's up to the app creator (or library creator) to define what to do [23:15] Amaranth: right, I'd rather integrate into normal X though so it works with everything now [23:15] err, it already does? [23:16] that was a key thing in the design [23:16] and if you're not worried about multiple points then you're not doing multitouch [23:16] Amaranth: doesn't it require a different version of X? [23:16] no [23:16] it just requires one that hasn't been released yet [23:16] Amaranth: right, I'm doing apple's version of multitouch [23:17] Amaranth: when is it slated for release? [23:17] apple doesn't have their own version of multitouch... [23:17] they have some gestures defined [23:17] MPX probably won't be in a public Xorg release until the end of the year [23:18] right, gestures dependent on multiple points, 1-11 supported [23:18] you just said you didn't need multiple points [23:18] but it's up to an application or library to define these gestures, X doesn't do policy [23:20] Amaranth: right, I was thinking of writing a daemon/driver to do the gesture stuff and pass those events onto X [23:20] that'll never be accepted in Xorg [23:21] Amaranth: doesn't need to be [23:21] Amaranth: it can be separate [23:21] good luck then [23:21] Amaranth: is there a way for a desktop daemon to send X events? [23:21] You can't just make up new events [23:22] Amaranth: what about ones already defined? [23:22] there are none already defined that fit what you're trying to do [23:22] but you can use XTest to fake events [23:23] well, I'm saying I'll run code which understands the gesture stuff and sends events like right clicks and scrolls [23:23] then you have to modify applications to know to do multitouch things with those [23:24] but at that point it doesn't matter if it was a usb mouse or a gesture === calc_ is now known as calc