| X3N | quick question: are there more packages for 32bit than 64bit ? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| Fujitsu | X3N: Not by any significant margin. | 00:05 |
| X3N | :) | 00:05 |
| X3N | thanks | 00:05 |
| X3N | Daviey, ^ | 00:05 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 00:10 |
| * Fujitsu is reminded of Dust Puppy. | 00:11 | |
| blueyed | what's the bash equivalent of realname to get the full path of a file? | 00:13 |
| blueyed | 2. there is no /etc/X11/xorg.d or similar, is there? For packages to add conf settings. | 00:14 |
| LaserJock | do we have anybody running MOTU School? | 00:15 |
| james_w | LaserJock: hi | 00:17 |
| LaserJock | james_w: ah, I wondered if it was you | 00:17 |
| LaserJock | I was gonna dig through emails | 00:17 |
| james_w | LaserJock: what are you after? | 00:18 |
| LaserJock | james_w: you wanna be MOTU School Coordinator? | 00:18 |
| james_w | I'm a but stuck for what to do this month. | 00:18 |
| james_w | LaserJock: what does that mean? | 00:18 |
| LaserJock | the person to contact for ideas and who sets up the sessions | 00:18 |
| LaserJock | basically what you've been doing | 00:19 |
| james_w | I thought I already was :) | 00:19 |
| LaserJock | well, more official like | 00:19 |
| LaserJock | I'm making a list, checking it twice | 00:19 |
| LaserJock | seeing who's been naughty or nice | 00:19 |
| james_w | I know it's been far from official, and I've only been doing it for a couple of months so no-one knows if I'm serious and whether I plan to stick around. | 00:20 |
| james_w | I've definitely been somewhere between naughty and nice, so do I get on your list? | 00:20 |
| LaserJock | yep | 00:20 |
| james_w | great, I'd be happy to be listed. | 00:20 |
| cody-somerville | Do I make this list? :) | 00:21 |
| LaserJock | you might, ya never know | 00:21 |
| james_w | and if anyone wants to help me with this month's that would be great ;-) | 00:21 |
| james_w | what's the most critical thing for release at this point? | 00:22 |
| james_w | getting patches in? fixing FTBFS? | 00:22 |
| cody-somerville | I notice there are a ton of merges on merges.ubuntu.com for universe | 00:23 |
| cody-somerville | Where the ubuntu delta is just a rebuild | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | FTBFS is pretty big I think | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | making sure anything we're in the middle of gets done | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | like the gfortran transition going on right now | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | cody-somerville: those are better handled in Intrepid I think | 00:24 |
| * Fujitsu notes that an archive rebuild will finish in less than an hour. | 00:24 | |
| cody-somerville | LaserJock, but the debian stuff usually has good stuff | 00:24 |
| LaserJock | cody-somerville: I thought you were saying the ubuntu delta was just a rebuild | 00:24 |
| james_w | I'd be happy to run a FTBFS session, only I don't even know where the FTBFS list is :) | 00:25 |
| LaserJock | you mean that there's new stuff we should be syncing? | 00:25 |
| james_w | cody-somerville: you don't mean a -build1? | 00:25 |
| cody-somerville | james_w, Yes, I do | 00:25 |
| cody-somerville | LaserJock, The ubuntu delta is just a rebuild | 00:25 |
| Fujitsu | Why did the archive have to freeze right before we do a lot of uploads for the gfortran transition? | 00:25 |
| james_w | cody-somerville: ah, ok. Does that need a session, it's just a sync isn't it? | 00:26 |
| cody-somerville | Right | 00:26 |
| cody-somerville | I filed several sync requests today | 00:26 |
| cody-somerville | But there are still more that should be synced | 00:26 |
| LaserJock | is MoM still running? | 00:26 |
| cody-somerville | I think so, yes. | 00:26 |
| james_w | LaserJock: last I looked, yes | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | that's where the "RC bugs fixed in Debian but not in Ubuntu" list is good | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | we need to be able to prioritize which stuff to grab | 00:27 |
| james_w | that's a list worth looking at. | 00:27 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 00:27 | |
| cody-somerville | but qa.ubuntuwire.com is down :( | 00:27 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, cody-somerville: I don't believe that was ever being updated for Hardy, anyway. | 00:29 |
| cody-somerville | Fujitsu, It had good enough regardless | 00:30 |
| james_w | so it's the list of out of date packages in Ubuntu where the debian uploads since the last included version fixed an RC bug? | 00:31 |
| Fujitsu | Indeed. We really need to track down imbrandon. | 00:31 |
| Fujitsu | james_w: That's correct. | 00:32 |
| sistpoty | nixternal: please ping an archive admin, once the new package has been uploaded (bug #196123) | 00:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196123 in ubuntu "[FFe] keurocalc port to kde4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196123 | 00:32 |
| Fujitsu | Unfortunately, it relies on someone rsyncing from the BTS, which means it needs a DD. | 00:32 |
| james_w | is the SOAP or ldap interface not good enough? Or is the problem DOSing the BTS? | 00:32 |
| Fujitsu | I believe it needs to check every bug, so it'd be a fairly effective DoS. | 00:33 |
| LaserJock | superm1: ping | 00:34 |
| james_w | fair enough. | 00:34 |
| LaserJock | I think ajmitch actually downloaded a local copy of bts or something to do it | 00:34 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: That's right. | 00:35 |
| james_w | LaserJock: have you approached any of the other DDs to do it? | 00:36 |
| LaserJock | no | 00:37 |
| sistpoty | maybe lucas would have some idea/some script? | 00:37 |
| LaserJock | we've just kinda been throwing it around today | 00:37 |
| james_w | hi sistpoty | 00:39 |
| sistpoty | hi james_w | 00:39 |
| nexu | nn | 00:46 |
| * sistpoty is off to bed... gn8 | 01:04 | |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | hiya bddebian | 01:06 |
| nixternal | boo | 01:06 |
| bddebian | Hi LaserJock, nixternal | 01:07 |
| nixternal | wasabi homeskillet | 01:07 |
| bddebian | Heh, not much. You folks? | 01:07 |
| nixternal | dput'in' crack into the repos :) | 01:09 |
| bddebian | heh, that's always good :) | 01:09 |
| nixternal | I uploaded one of your patches the other day, and I can't remember which one it was now | 01:10 |
| nixternal | yesterday actually | 01:10 |
| bddebian | My patches? I don't patch anything.. :-) | 01:10 |
| nixternal | it was a super old patch, like 2006 old | 01:10 |
| bddebian | It's just so funny to see the stark differences between the Ubuntu IRC channels and the Debian ones. :-) | 01:12 |
| ScottK2 | bddebian: Yeah. They're required to care about their users, but we're free to ignore them. | 01:13 |
| bddebian | Uhm, that would be the anti-thesis of my experiences :-) | 01:13 |
| ScottK2 | It's in the Debian social contract, so it must be true? | 01:14 |
| nixternal | hehe | 01:16 |
| bddebian | I'm not dissing Debian as a distro, it's just funny. Almost any time of day in almost any Ubuntu channel, I can solicite a hello. In the Debian channels, it's dead air.. :-) | 01:20 |
| nixternal | bddebian: hang out in the debian-qt-kde chan, it is hardly ever dead air | 01:24 |
| * nixternal kicks ajmitch in the shin | 01:24 | |
| * porthose wave to all | 01:25 | |
| bddebian | Hello porthose | 01:25 |
| porthose | what will be the name of the next release, after hardy? | 01:35 |
| cody-somerville | Intrepid | 01:35 |
| porthose | sound cool, I like :) | 01:36 |
| porthose | thx | 01:36 |
| jdong | NO. BAD FIREFOX-3.0 PACKAGING. *SMACK*. | 01:37 |
| jdong | the world's out to get me. Everytime I turn around, the world tries to symlink firefox-3.0 to firefox and mess up my backports :) | 01:38 |
| jdong | I broke Breaks: :) | 01:38 |
| jdong | do I get a trophy for that? | 01:38 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 01:39 |
| RAOF | It should've been Intrepid _Iguana_. Iguanas are awesome, more so than cool mountain goats. | 01:44 |
| ScottK2 | +1 | 01:45 |
| emgent | heya people | 01:48 |
| RAOF | Howdie emgent. | 01:48 |
| emgent | how die? | 01:50 |
| superm1 | hi LaserJock | 01:50 |
| superm1 | what's up? | 01:50 |
| RAOF | emgent: I could spell it "howdy", if you like :) | 01:50 |
| emgent | i dont understand howdy :P | 01:54 |
| RAOF | It's "hello", but distorted through years of separation from reality. | 01:59 |
| ScottK2 | It's derived from How do you do? | 02:00 |
| RAOF | Yup | 02:00 |
| emgent | RAOF: lol ok :P | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: like much of the english language? :-) | 02:01 |
| RAOF | LaserJock: Heh. We're just talking a crazy mixture of Old Norse, German, and French :) | 02:02 |
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| jscinoz | i'm making a downloader package that uses zenity to display progress, i was instructed to use ssft instead as it could use alternate methods if an xserver was not present, i have the output of wget mangled around to display % and download speed, however i cant get ssft_progress_bar to take this output, heres a paste of the script so far http://pastebin.com/m8f444a9 what am i doing wrong? | 02:15 |
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| jscinoz | I'm making a downloader package that uses ssft to display progress, i'm using wget to download a file and using sed to mangle it into "0% \n Downloading at $downloadspeed" ssft is updating the speed but not hte bar from the percentage, what am i doign wrong | 03:45 |
| jscinoz | this is so strange | 04:52 |
| jscinoz | it gives a lintian error "bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy" how is gutsy a bad distribution? | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | jscinoz: which release are you on/ | 04:54 |
| jscinoz | as in what release am i building on? | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | ye | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | s | 04:54 |
| jscinoz | gutsy | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | strange | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | it would usually be because the system displaying that is feisty or below | 04:55 |
| jscinoz | >_< | 04:57 |
| jscinoz | changlog line: urbanterror-data (4.1~getdeb0) gutsy; urgency=low | 04:57 |
| jscinoz | and yes it's supposed to be native :P | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | i'd say because it doesn't have ubuntu1 at the end. it's ignorable, anyway | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | ...and why are you packaging for getdeb/' | 04:59 |
| jscinoz | i missed the freeze for hardy, so i'm packaging for debian so it'll get pulled downstream for ibex, and while i wait for a sponsor i may as well put in on getdeb so at least some people can get it | 05:00 |
| emgent | heya people | 05:02 |
| jscinoz | rawr | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | has anybody tried dist-upgrading from like Gutsy to Debian testing/unstable? | 05:19 |
| emgent | some motu up ? | 06:11 |
| emgent | Hobbsee: ping :) | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around. | 06:12 |
| emgent | heheh it's true | 06:13 |
| emgent | bug #202422 | 06:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202422 in smarty "CVE-2008-1066 smarty allows attackers to call arbitrary PHP functions via templates" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202422 | 06:13 |
| emgent | please open task and upload for hardy | 06:13 |
| emgent | s/task/tasks/ | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | Isn't that how smarty works? | 06:14 |
| emgent | Fujitsu: it'snt critical bug, smarty work but it's vulnerable | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | emgent: the sponsorship queue was overrated? | 06:17 |
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| emgent | Hobbsee: i prefer used IRC for security sponsor in hardy, because the rest of upload are by security team. | 06:18 |
| emgent | argh my english sux | 06:19 |
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| nixternal | fooey | 06:42 |
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| emgent | ls | 07:58 |
| emgent | ups, worng window | 07:59 |
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| Iulian | G'morning. | 08:40 |
| Iulian | DktrKranz: Thanks for uploading nxtvepg. | 10:06 |
| Iulian | Hello btw :) | 10:06 |
| vik_3278 | Hello, I have a quick question on naming conventions for back-ports. | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: ^ | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | vik_3278: would help if you say your question | 10:13 |
| vik_3278 | I'm trying to backport libestools1.2_1.2.96~beta from Hardy to Gutsy | 10:13 |
| DktrKranz | Iulian, hey. Thank *you* | 10:13 |
| vik_3278 | Hobbsee: yeah I already posted on jdong's thread, but I thought I'd do a little bit of digging myself :) | 10:14 |
| vik_3278 | sorry the package is called libestools1.2_1.2.96~beta-2 | 10:14 |
| vik_3278 | if I'm not mistaken, I should name it something like libestools1.2_1.2.96~beta-2~7.10backport1 | 10:15 |
| vik_3278 | or atleast that's what jdong's prevu utility does | 10:15 |
| vik_3278 | but apt doesn't seem to like the 2 ~'s in the name | 10:16 |
| DktrKranz | hellboy195, ! | 10:16 |
| vik_3278 | So my question is, what is the correct way to name this package? | 10:16 |
| jpatrick | vik_3278: ~gutsy1 | 10:17 |
| hellboy195 | DktrKranz: sry? | 10:17 |
| vik_3278 | drop the ~beta-2 all together? | 10:17 |
| DktrKranz | hellboy195, hi :P | 10:17 |
| hellboy195 | xD xD xD | 10:17 |
| hellboy195 | DktrKranz: good morning | 10:17 |
| hellboy195 | persia: around? | 10:18 |
| hellboy195 | Damn. We are in betafreeze and they now release audacious 1.5 -.- | 10:22 |
| vik_3278 | jpatrick: Ok since it's going to be a local package, I can name it simply ~gutsy1, but does that mean that any packages with "~something" already is potentially not backportable without breaking the name? | 10:24 |
| jpatrick | vik_3278: I don't see why apt wouldn't like two "~"s in the version, we use it all the time for KDE4 packages | 10:25 |
| vik_3278 | jpatrick:hmm is that right? My problem might be elsewhere then... | 10:26 |
| jpatrick | vik_3278: all KDE4 packages are ~gutsy1~ppa1 when backported | 10:26 |
| vik_3278 | jpatrick: Interesting. So it should work huh... | 10:27 |
| vik_3278 | jpatrick:actually the problem is when I try to install a backported version of festival which depends on this. | 10:28 |
| afflux | betafreeze affects only main, is that correct? | 10:29 |
| vik_3278 | jpatrick: apt-get install tells me "festival: Depends: libestools1.2 (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2) but 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1 is to be installed" despite the debian/control file saying "libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1)" | 10:29 |
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| Hobbsee | vik_3278: you need to fix the festival, then | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | vik_3278: ~ means "less than" | 10:37 |
| vik_3278 | Hobbsee: That's what I thought I did: debian/control | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | Build-Depends: [...] libestools1.2-dev (>= 1:1.2.96~beta-2~7.10prevu1) [...] | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | [...] | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | Package: festival | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | [...] | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} [...] | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | oops sorry about that ^^; | 10:40 |
| vik_3278 | AHA! found it!!!! | 10:44 |
| vik_3278 | silly me! | 10:44 |
| vik_3278 | shlibs:Depends | 10:44 |
| vik_3278 | got it. Thank you guys! I hadn't edited debian/shlibs.local with the ~7.10prevu1 added in. | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 10:51 |
| afflux | betafreeze affects only main, is that correct? | 11:15 |
| persia | afflux: It's hard freeze for main, soft freeze for universe. Be careful what you upload. | 11:16 |
| afflux | I can't upload anyway | 11:16 |
| persia | afflux: In that case, be careful what you request to be uploaded :) | 11:16 |
| afflux | I added two bugs to the universe sponsoring queue, that's why I'm asking ;) | 11:16 |
| afflux | It's bug 195462 and bug 139877, both are not important to get them in before beta release | 11:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 195462 in pymsn "telepathy-butterfly crashed with NameError in _on_blob_received()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195462 | 11:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139877 in emerald "emerald crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_gc_new_with_values()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139877 | 11:17 |
| afflux | Just for the record ;) | 11:17 |
| RainCT | hey | 12:00 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: heya | 12:03 |
| Iulian | Hi RainCT | 12:09 |
| cody-somerville | ScottK, I've updated bug 197650 | 12:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197650 in gdesklets "gdesklets in hardy unusable due to an unhandled error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197650 | 12:40 |
| yen | hi guys, need little help to upload my package to REVU using dput | 13:28 |
| yen | i have my launchpad account, signed Key upload, etc | 13:29 |
| yen | the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU look very difficult in the DPUT part | 13:29 |
| yen | I have the .deb of my package, how to upload now? | 13:29 |
| RainCT | yen: you've to upload the .changes file with dget (and doing this it will also upload the .dsc, the .diff.gz and the .orig.tar.gz) | 13:30 |
| Nightrose | yen: dput revu package_version_source.changes is the important part | 13:31 |
| Nightrose | so go to the folder whith the *.changes file | 13:31 |
| RainCT | yen: but first, have you joined the universe contributors team and if so, when have you joined it (or if you added the key to LP later, when was that)? | 13:31 |
| yen | i joined and added the key around 10min ago | 13:34 |
| yen | i read u may need to reload the keyring or something | 13:34 |
| RainCT | yen: okay, so REVU won't have it yet (the last keyring re-sync was yesterday). Give me the link to your LP profile and I'll add your key | 13:35 |
| yen | here, https://launchpad.net/~capiscuas/, thks a lot | 13:35 |
| RainCT | yen: ok, done | 13:39 |
| RainCT | yen: you can dput the .changes file now | 13:40 |
| yen | superb | 13:40 |
| * RainCT would like to know wheter others think the patch proposed in bug #201509 is sane or not | 13:51 | |
| RainCT | (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gweled/+bug/201509) | 13:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201509 in gweled "Get rid of .gweled file and follow fd.o specifications" [Undecided,In progress] | 13:51 |
| RainCT | deleting the .gweled file is necessary for the patch on bug #90499 to work, but I'm not sure if that's OK | 13:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90499 in gweled "gweled plays annoying sound which can't be switched off" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90499 | 13:53 |
| yen | RainCT: i've finished uploading using dput | 14:27 |
| yen | subdownloader_1.2.9-ubuntu1.dsc: done. | 14:27 |
| yen | subdownloader_1.2.9-ubuntu1.tar.gz: done. | 14:27 |
| yen | subdownloader_1.2.9-ubuntu1_source.changes: done. | 14:27 |
| yen | what will happen now to see the .deb in the repositories? | 14:28 |
| Hobbsee | yen: where did you upload to? | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | oh, revu | 14:32 |
| RainCT | Hobbsee: REVU | 14:32 |
| RainCT | yen: ok, the uploads is now at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=subdownloader | 14:32 |
| RainCT | yen: but we are in Feature Freeze right now, so it probably won't get much attention | 14:33 |
| RainCT | yen: new packages aren't accepted into Ubuntu (Hardy) anymore, unless there's a really good reason for that, so you'll have to wait until the repositories for Intrepid are created | 14:34 |
| kgoetz | intrepid? | 14:35 |
| tsmithe | the next release: intrepid ibex | 14:35 |
| hellboy195 | hardy +1 | 14:35 |
| kgoetz | ah... i hadnt heard the new name yet | 14:36 |
| RainCT | yen: (ie, just after Hardy's release). once Intrepid development started people will look at it (if they don't, ask here on Mondays -Monday = REVU Day-) and if you get 2 advocated (2 MOTUs state that they are happy with it) it will be uploaded to Intrepid | 14:36 |
| jpatrick | !ibex | kgoetz | 14:41 |
| ubotu | kgoetz: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | 14:41 |
| yen | RainCT, pitty I cannot get into Hardy repos, my GOOD reason could be that the program has 700.000 downloads, is that enought? | 14:53 |
| RainCT | yen: I don't know... You can try filling a Feature Freeze Exception, but I don't think "a lot of downloads" is a good reason | 14:57 |
| RainCT | ScottK? | 14:57 |
| RainCT | yen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 14:57 |
| yen | thks | 14:57 |
| awen_ | anybody has any idea, what might cause this error while building? | 15:07 |
| awen_ | dh_md5sums -a | 15:07 |
| awen_ | md5sum: invalid option -- d | 15:07 |
| protonchris | Anyone in here interested at taking a look at a upgraded package and maybe sponsoring an upload? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glom/+bug/201385 | 15:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201385 in glom "Hardy: Please update glom to latest version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:36 |
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| RainCT | Is anyone here on Hardy using the latest emerald version (from the repos)? | 16:22 |
| jdong | people still use emerald? | 16:23 |
| * jdong hugs asac infinitely | 16:23 | |
| jdong | asac: firefox 3.0 beta4 has really made my day. and weekend. | 16:23 |
| * RainCT does, and he knows other people who use it to | 16:23 | |
| ScottK2 | jdong: jeromeg was on last night and asked me to to upload a pigdin backport. I'd like to get verification from you first that it's a good backport. | 16:24 |
| RainCT | jdong: what's new? | 16:24 |
| jdong | RainCT: speed. RAM usage. Beyond all belief. | 16:24 |
| jdong | RainCT: i was using LP last night, opened up all confirmed backports bugs in tabs, RAM usage slightly below 100MB | 16:25 |
| RainCT | jdong: from b3->b4, or with Firefox 3 in general? | 16:25 |
| jdong | ScottK2: yeah, I looked over his debdiff and it looked quite reasonable, and the amount of testing he's done well exceeds my expectations. +1 from me. | 16:25 |
| ScottK2 | OK. | 16:26 |
| jdong | RainCT: b3->b4 is like the ff2->b3 jump. all over again. | 16:26 |
| bmk789 | !seen | 16:26 |
| ubotu | The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead. | 16:26 |
| RainCT | great :) | 16:27 |
| bmk789 | FF3 b4 doesnt work here :\ | 16:27 |
| bmk789 | but im on hardy | 16:28 |
| jdong | bmk789: aww :(. Up to date? | 16:28 |
| bmk789 | ya, i think its some library that needs updated, im using swiftweasel 3 b3 for the time being, about to try SW b4 | 16:29 |
| fta | what's wrong with b4 ? | 16:30 |
| bmk789 | of course i try it now and it works | 16:30 |
| hellboy195 | LucidFox: beagle? ^^ | 16:31 |
| bmk789 | and it is VERY fast | 16:32 |
| fta | most people complaining about that had a mix of xul1.9 b4 and ff3 b3 | 16:32 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: Is there any reason not to make rosegarden build-dep libfftw3-dev | fftw3-dev so source backports aren't needed in the future? | 16:33 |
| jdong | ScottK2: that sounds like a better idea | 16:33 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: I'll go ahead and do this one, but please fix it in Hardy so we don't need to next time. | 16:34 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: Would you do me a favor and look at what would be needed for a WINE backport. | 16:34 |
| jdong | ScottK2: well do you think it's okay to put transisional build deps like that into Hardy? | 16:34 |
| ScottK2 | I don't see a downside risk. Do you? Maybe ask a few others. | 16:35 |
| jdong | ScottK2: I don't see any risk, I'm just not sure if anyone will cry and whine about build-dep bloat to support backports packages | 16:38 |
| jdong | ScottK2: I don't mind doing it, just there's something about uploading to Hardy to fix a -backports problem... doesn't sound right | 16:38 |
| jdong | ScottK2: and yes, I will look into a WINE backport | 16:38 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: rosegarden FTBFS in my pbuilder for Gutsy due to no libjack-dev | 16:44 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: IIRC, you've done some work on Audacious. Assuming that's correct, I'd be interested in your opinion of Bug 202518? | 16:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202518 in audacious "[FFe] Merge audacious 1.5.0-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202518 | 16:46 |
| protonchris | Previously, I have done FFEs for upgrading packages to upstream releases that just fix bugs. I found a package where the version is over 2 years old. So an upgrade would most likely include new features. What are the chances of a FFE being granted? | 16:47 |
| ScottK2 | protonchris: It really depends a lot on the package. | 16:49 |
| ScottK2 | protonchris: If you're interested in the package, I'd suggest do the FFe and see. | 16:49 |
| protonchris | ok. Here is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/galculator/+bug/201909 | 16:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201909 in galculator "please upgrade to new upstream release (1.3.1)" [Wishlist,New] | 16:49 |
| ScottK2 | protonchris: Knowing if the new version fixed Bug 126841 would also be relevant. | 16:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 126841 in galculator "galculator: constants don't work, decimals get cropped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126841 | 16:51 |
| protonchris | ScottK2: thanks. | 16:53 |
| jdong | libjack-dev | 0.103.0-6ubuntu1 | gutsy/universe | amd64, i386, powerpc | 16:56 |
| jdong | ScottK2: ^^ :-/. And I haven't done any work on Audacious so I don't have any useful comments for that | 16:57 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: OK. Thanks. | 16:57 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: Looks like rosegarden was some kind of subtle pbuilder problem. When I use --debug on the pbuilder it finds libjack-dev. | 17:47 |
| ScottK2 | Still plenty to do on Bug #199014 if anyone needs work ... | 17:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199014 in emesene "python-xml removal: please drop/replace (build) dependencies" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199014 | 17:49 |
| RainCT | seems like something is wrong with emerald 0.7.2 or a dependency is missing/not high enough.. | 17:51 |
| jdong | ScottK2: wine builds fine from hardy without source changes... now excuse me as I use this as a reason to play starcraft for 4 hours | 18:30 |
| jdong | because.... you know... WINE regressions don't immediately show up.... ;-) | 18:30 |
| hellboy195 | jdong: xD hf | 18:30 |
| ScottK2 | jdong: You going to file the backports bug and ask the archive then? | 18:31 |
| jdong | ScottK2: yeah, I'll do so | 18:32 |
| * jdong jumps up and down... Firefox after 24hrs still only uses 65.9MB RAM!!! | 18:33 | |
| RainCT | jdong: wow, true. 59MB here.. b3 used around 150 | 18:48 |
| jdong | RainCT: yeah, the difference is quite amazing | 18:48 |
| RainCT | :D | 18:48 |
| jdong | RainCT: try using alt-1,2,3 to switch between tabs. Often times it's instantenous, at most 0.5s delay | 18:48 |
| jdong | that's a first for me | 18:49 |
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| RainCT | awesome! | 18:50 |
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| * bmk789_ needs a mentor | 19:23 | |
| ScottK2 | jdong: rosegarden uploaded | 19:27 |
| jdong | ScottK2: yup just saw the e-mail; thanks :) | 19:27 |
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| * ScottK2 scribbles some notes about remembering to turn universe back on in his pbuilder after he turns it off... | 19:29 | |
| RainCT | Hi bmk789_ | 19:35 |
| RainCT | bmk789_: why do you think that you need one? | 19:35 |
| bmk789_ | id really like to get into packaging and patching and stuff so i could contribute to development | 19:36 |
| bmk789_ | ive read the wiki pages and stuff but think having a mentor to explain the process would make it understandable | 19:37 |
| bmk789_ | RainCT: ^ | 19:44 |
| RainCT | bmk789_: okay, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring then | 19:45 |
| bmk789_ | RainCT: thanks | 19:46 |
| RainCT | or rather https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Contributor | 19:46 |
| RainCT | you're welcome :) | 19:46 |
| ScottK2 | bmk789_: Alternatively you can dive in, get to work, and ask questions as you have them. | 19:55 |
| bmk789_ | I'll probably read up some more and do that | 20:00 |
| enarxe0 | nxvl: hi | 20:03 |
| enarxe0 | effie_jayx: hi | 20:03 |
| Rotund | Any chance of getting a new community package into hardy still? | 20:11 |
| hellboy195 | Rotund: hardly. Is it *very* important` | 20:11 |
| hellboy195 | ? | 20:11 |
| Rotund | Updating OpenAL... the one there is awful | 20:12 |
| Rotund | hardly used by anything actually. | 20:12 |
| hellboy195 | Rotund: you can try but I don't think it will get into hardy | 20:13 |
| siretart | Rotund: openal is hardy used by anything? huh? | 20:13 |
| rexbron | Rotund: It is unlikely that a library update will occur this late in the cycle (espically before a beta freeze) unless is fixes a critical bug | 20:13 |
| siretart | Rotund: there are quite some packages using openal. I'm not even sure we should switch to openal soft for lenny | 20:14 |
| rexbron | That would require a rebuild of all packages that depend on it | 20:14 |
| Rotund | that was the suggestion | 20:14 |
| Rotund | (going to openal soft) | 20:14 |
| Rotund | Perhaps I'll just set up a PPA w/ it. | 20:15 |
| Rotund | siretart, is there already a PPA for OpenAL Soft | 20:16 |
| siretart | Rotund: oh, there is? where? | 20:17 |
| siretart | Rotund: perhaps you could reupload all reverse deps there? | 20:17 |
| ScottK2 | nxvl: I uploaded tinyerp-server after some additional changes. Once it's published, please have a look and see if you have questions about the changes. | 20:19 |
| Rotund | siretart, I was asking if there WAS one. You sounded like you knew what I was talking about and had looked into it. | 20:19 |
| Rotund | siretart, I'll just make a new one. | 20:19 |
| enarxe0 | nxvl: estas? | 20:20 |
| siretart | Rotund: oh, no. not that I knew of. | 20:20 |
| siretart | Rotund: I just happen to know the issue with openal soft because I did the last uploads of it to debian | 20:21 |
| siretart | AFAIUI, openal soft drops some optional extensions that the openal si provided. | 20:21 |
| siretart | so I'd expect to break on games like scorched3d, etc. | 20:22 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: I think there is a bug in wx2.6's debian/rules. the target which creates debian/control from debian/control.in doesn't work. that's probably why you/mok0 only modified debian/control and didn't realize there was a control.in | 20:22 |
| Rotund | I'll check, but they claim it's just the Loki ones. | 20:23 |
| Rotund | siretart, All the Loki games included their own OpenAL anyways. | 20:23 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: You want to fix it up. Also it needs the python versions set to 2.4- in debian control (mok has a patch for that in the xml removal bug) | 20:25 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: oh, and you uploaded wx2.8 also. I had a patch for bug #193340 to apply to it | 20:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 193340 in wxwidgets2.8 "Filezilla goes inactive if not interacted with" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193340 | 20:26 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: I wish you'd said something. | 20:27 |
| ScottK2 | I'll ask to have it rejected and we can do it again. | 20:27 |
| ScottK2 | Actually we don't need it rejected, it'll just get over-written. | 20:28 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: make a debdiff to mok0's version and attach it to your bug. | 20:28 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: still it'd be good to have it rejected, as I'd like some testing of the patch for #193340, it'll probably not be ready to upload right now | 20:29 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: around? | 20:30 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: It won't hurt if it's uploaded. We can do another one later. | 20:30 |
| ScottK2 | No rush. | 20:30 |
| RainCT | hellboy195: yeh | 20:30 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: thx for looking at my stuff. for ckermit I'm not sure if a merge is now worth it ,.. | 20:31 |
| RainCT | hellboy195: bug number please | 20:32 |
| siretart | Rotund: that's nice and dandy for loki, but we *do* ship software that uses the system openal | 20:32 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: I'd like not to have to do another upload to fix the previous. so being sure the patch (that I honestly don't understand) fixes the issue and doesn't cause any regression is a good idea imho | 20:32 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: bug #201088 | 20:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201088 in ckermit "Please sync ckermit 211-10 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201088 | 20:32 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: The upload I did is just for python-xml removal. Are you saying there's a problem with that? | 20:33 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: except for that one you also only modified debian/control, no. but to not waste buildd time, it'd be better to have only one upload for python-xml and my patch | 20:34 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: Are talking 2.8 or 2.6? | 20:34 |
| Adri2000 | s/except for/except if for/ | 20:34 |
| Adri2000 | 2.8 | 20:34 |
| ScottK2 | OK. | 20:34 |
| RainCT | hellboy195: true, I don't think those changes are necessary for Hardy | 20:35 |
| Rotund | siretart, I know, but I'd doubt ANY uses the crappy Loki extensions (they really were bad) | 20:35 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: so can I ask to reject this one? and I'll include the python-xml fix in my upload | 20:36 |
| ScottK2 | I asked. | 20:36 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: Setting to "Invalid" ? | 20:36 |
| ScottK2 | No need for you to. | 20:36 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: ok | 20:36 |
| RainCT | hellboy195: yes | 20:36 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: k, thx | 20:37 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: I'll also fix wx2.6 | 20:37 |
| ScottK2 | K | 20:40 |
| Adri2000 | ScottK2: in the bug report you say to build-dep on python (>= 2.4). does XS-Python-Version: >= 2.4 actually do that? or are both needed? | 20:44 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: Both can't hurt. XB-Python-Version should be sufficient for the binary since any 2.4 will do. | 20:47 |
| ScottK2 | I don't actually remember what that will do for the build-deps. | 20:47 |
| ScottK2 | It might be interesting to set XS-Python-Version: >= 2.6 on a package and see if it builds | 20:47 |
| nixternal | Tranquilizers 1, neice & nephew 0 | 20:48 |
| ScottK2 | Shouldn't that be Tranquilizers 2 then? | 20:49 |
| nixternal | true | 20:49 |
| nixternal | cuz I didn't share the same dart on them | 20:49 |
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| Adri2000 | ScottK2: it builds in my pbuilder with XS-Python-Version: >= 2.6. so I guess adding a versioned build-dep is better | 20:53 |
| ScottK2 | Yes. | 20:54 |
| ScottK2 | Adri2000: It's rejected | 21:00 |
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| Adri2000 | ok | 21:01 |
| thenewme91 | Hi all, I was wondering if somebody could possibly take a moment of their time and look at the patch I've attached to bug 196861? | 21:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196861 in prism "desktop icons created by prism don't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196861 | 21:06 |
| fta | thenewme91, i packaged prism initially | 21:08 |
| fta | what's wrong with the lauchers ? | 21:10 |
| fta | they work here | 21:10 |
| fta | oh, i see. | 21:11 |
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| fta | thenewme91, I'll fix it with a few other bugs in my todo list | 21:17 |
| thenewme91 | okay, thanks | 21:19 |
| fta | np, i wanted to package prism 0.9 but i'm stuck with icon licenses now that the webapps are no longer redistributed by mozilla. | 21:23 |
| fta | so until I find a solution, i'll stick with this 0.8 svn snapshot | 21:24 |
| Rotund | k | 21:29 |
| nxvl | ScottK2: ok, thnx, i will take a look | 22:07 |
| slicer | I have a postinst script which needs to reload the dbus configuration. I currently do this as "invoke-rc.d --quiet dbus reload". However, if dbus is not present, this fails with exit code 100, which breaks the script (it's 'set -e'). What's the recommended way to query if dbus is installed? Just [ -f /etc/init.d/dbus ] ? | 22:46 |
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| ScottK2 | slicer: What happens then if dbus is installed, but not running? | 22:50 |
| slicer | ScottK2: That works fine, the dbus init script handles 'reload' in the right way. | 22:51 |
| ScottK2 | OK | 22:51 |
| slicer | ScottK2: The problem comes when it's not installed at all. | 22:51 |
| slicer | I see there's now a bug report for this as well: bug 202672 | 22:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202672 in mumble "installing mumble-server requires dbus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202672 | 22:52 |
| ScottK2 | That's a pretty amazing coincidence that coming in right while you were working on it. | 22:56 |
| slicer | ScottK2: No, they were talking to me on IRC :) | 22:56 |
| ScottK2 | Can you confirm what they guy says in the bug about it still working without dbus. | 22:56 |
| ScottK2 | OK. That makes more sense | 22:56 |
| slicer | It works, it will just have reduced functionality. | 22:58 |
| ScottK2 | [ -f /etc/init.d/dbus ] isn't the most reliable way to tell you if it's installed, but it is a good way to tell you if the init is present (which is what you really want to know). | 22:58 |
| slicer | Kind of like xmms without mp3 and ogg support. | 22:58 |
| slicer | ScottK2: Ok, I'll try that then and have the user test it. | 22:59 |
| emgent | heya | 23:05 |
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| emgent | heya | 23:57 |
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