[00:05] does anyone know how to get download channel icons in .21? the button for that is greyed out for me in my mythtv settings [00:44] where's the new option to set the LiveTV idle timer in .21? [00:50] hrm... seems there's no option for it on the gui [01:00] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/322750?do=post_view_threaded#322750 [01:00] for anyone else curious [01:31] Hello [02:38] !ask | Perium [02:38] Perium: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [02:47] tgm4883_laptop_: you there? [02:51] no [02:51] damn [02:51] 0.21 is working great, I love the greedy deinterlace filter [02:51] http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/13574 any idea where that base.xml is? [02:52] When I hit enter on "Watch Video" nothing happends. [02:53] grout: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722756 [02:53] is it possible to use the greedy de-interlace filter during a mythtranscode to a .NUV I've been trying to guess the custom filtername for it, greedyhdeint didn't seem to work [02:53] pdragon, are you using .21? [02:53] yes [02:54] thats already in there [02:54] or are you making a theme? [02:54] no, i just don't see a clock [02:54] what theme are you using? [02:55] blootube [02:55] default mythbuntu one [02:55] pdragon: Thanks a lot [02:55] np. i had the same problem [02:57] pdragon, that may be why [02:57] i'd have to check it on my system [02:57] it wasn't added to the default theme? [03:00] yep, it's there [03:00] right on the bottom [03:00] what type of tv do you have? [03:00] hmm... ok. now something else weird is happening. when i'm watching tv and a recording starts or stops, the frontend freezes [03:02] http://pastebin.com/m14e0bfeb [03:02] that's my frontend log [03:04] tgm4883_laptop_, oops, sorry I was just seeing who was here, no questions to ask [03:05] tgm4883_laptop_: I've got a 32" tube tv [03:05] pdragon, use the screen setup wizard [03:05] everything else in the frontend looks fine. and there's a lot of free space on the bottom [03:05] sounds like an overscan issue [03:06] sec [03:09] hmm... just realized my laptop that i have the frontend on still has the old version [03:09] regular ubuntu doesn't see there's any update for it [03:12] do you have backports on? [03:12] cause .21 should be in backports [03:12] ahh no i don't. didn't realize mythbuntu had that turned on [03:12] any ideas on the freezing frontend? [03:13] sorry, no [03:13] k. making a post in forums before logging a bug [03:18] alright... something is really wrong. program guide says things are recording. upcoming recordings on mythweb does too. but the tuner isn't reporting that it's in use and i see nothing in my recorded shows [03:20] just restarting the stupid thing. brb [03:25] amazing. that fixed it. lost the last show i recorded and the first 20 minutes of this one, though [03:27] arg, I can't get any custom filters to work during a transcode, shouldn't I be able to put in "bobdeint" as the Custom Filter to at least get some deinterlacing? [03:28] I'm trying 'invert' to see if thats working [03:29] What are the release plans for mythbuntu 8.04? [03:29] 7.10 was released same day as ubuntu [03:29] i think they're doing the same [03:29] nope, invert isn't working either [03:29] pdragon: was it the same day? [03:30] i believe so [03:30] same or next [03:30] pdragon: okay, that's encouraging. This transition to 0.21 packages has left my system in a little less than desirable state. I'm looking forward to a complete reinstall. [03:31] invert works fine as a custom filter for regular playback but not in the transcode settings [03:31] it's on the frontpage of the mythbuntu website [03:31] yeah, there's been some bumps for me too. gotten them fixed for the most part so far tho [03:31] pdragon: thanks. [03:32] pdragon: I do for the most part too, except for a lot of NO DATA in my Channel Listings. [03:32] And I've checked the raw XML from Schedules Direct -- it's good. [03:32] By the way, this is fantastic: http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/index.htm [03:32] I already have a DB2, or I might build myself one. [03:33] hmm... i dunno. mine is working ok [03:39] part of me wants to reinstall from scratch, too. but i've got it all set up and working how i like. would be a lot of work :/ [03:41] pdragon: I understand. [03:49] will try the upgrade a week or so after release. if it doesn't work well afterwards, i may reload [03:52] I've had troubles with Comcast, and reconfigured my tuners several times. It's minor, but annoying to me, that my tuners are now numbered Encoders 10 through 13. [04:12] hmm... i see the Screen Setup Wizards option on my one remote frontend, but don't see it on my main backend/frontend combo system [04:41] pdragon, on gutsy? [04:41] if you're on gutsy there is a bug related to it :) [05:00] It's quite strange that a subset of my local HD channels are showing NO DATA in the channel listings. [05:05] yes, gutsy [05:05] the remote front end is gusty, too, but it's an ubuntu desktop with the frontend installed [05:17] pdragon, yeah [05:17] so here's wh [05:17] y [05:17] MCC diverts that xml file [05:17] the hardy version is updated for it [05:17] but gutsy isnt [05:20] hmm.. ok [05:22] i just changed my theme to mythcenter instead of the default. the time shows up ok in that one now, so don't have to adjust the screen [05:26] time for bed. finally got my netflix account set up and going to test the livetvtimeout option tonight [05:39] Help. I'm trying to add a capture card during myth setup, and I'm stuck in an endless loop of Capture Cards <> Capture Card Setup. All I can do is (New Capture Card), (Delete all..), (Delete all again...) or choose the card I just added. How do I get out of this section and save my new card? Thanks [05:40] Every time I choose Finish in the Capture Card Setup screen, it loads the Capture Card screen allowing me to add/delete/choose my new card [05:42] homercycles: you hit Esc? [05:52] Ah, Esc. Thanks. There should be a button down the bottom to exit that section, but anyway, I know now. [08:00] good morning from Scotland [08:01] I'm looking for XMLTV setup help [08:01] here is my issue: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2008-March/215332.html [09:12] I need some help, when I try to watch tv with mythtv the screen changes and then goes back to the menu imediatly. I though my capture card wasn't installed properly so to test I downloaded tvtime and it works fine. How can I make it work for mythtv? any ideas? [09:14] I also have problems with dvds, when I try to play a dvd my screen goes black and the computer freezes. If I try to rip a non protected dvd made from tv shows mythtv says can't connect to dvd daemon, something has gone seriously wrong. Any ideas on that one? [09:18] does mythtv-setup log somewhere? [09:19] it offers to create /var/lib/mythtv/livetv/ -directory, but fails without any visible errors [09:21] it's silent even when started from terminal o,O [09:55] media library -> watch videos *click [09:55] * -> nothing happens [10:20] is that after the update? [10:20] I had the same problem [10:20] myth-dvd has been superseeded by myth video [10:21] so you nee to go to package manager [10:21] uninstall myth-dvd and install myth-video [10:21] worked for me? [10:26] umm [10:26] I thought I got rid of all .20 stuff already [10:27] no mythdvd here [10:28] hmm.. restarting frontend fixed it... probably forgot to do that earlier [10:28] thx for the tip though [10:29] funny that nothing was logged [13:40] heres an odd problem running hardy mythbuntu as long as i have the wired ethernet connected my wireless works [14:44] you can't test backend-capabilities with the live-cd?-o [14:46] dunno if there are any developers around but it seems to ignore layout selected at boot [14:46] works in X but not in vt's === myth-newb is now known as Iggle-Piggle [14:59] hello everyone [15:01] can anyone point me to some instructions on configuring mythbuntu with XMLTV? It all seems to have changed since last time :-S [15:23] Oh, it seems channels.dat is feeling empty inside again LOL. [15:29] hello room [15:29] is there a hardware list that i can cross refrence for compatibility? [15:30] i would like to know if the onboard graphics in the GA-MA78GM-S2H are linux friendly [15:33] ahave_, what brand is the chipset? [15:34] amd [15:34] junk [15:34] :( [15:34] should i stick with nvidia or intel? [15:34] officially, ati does not support mythtv. unofficially, they're right [15:35] i.e. http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=26907 [15:35] well do you have any suggestions for good htpc MB? i am looking for blu decoding and would prefer intigrated graphics to keep noise down [15:37] to play blu-ray will require a decent cpu. graphics, anything goes [15:41] I was trying to go AMD to save some cash, but if I went intel.. how does this setup look? https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8417086&WishListTitle=IBM%2DMediaPc [15:42] christ on a bike, what do you need a $200 graphics card for? [15:43] i thought you wanted onboard graphics [15:43] i was told i need to go big for bluray/HD playback [15:43] well that setup did not have onboard [15:44] you were lied to, unless the person in question was specifixally talking about windows [15:44] well they actually said the graphics card was not enough.. [15:44] lol [15:45] they're drowning in bullshit, then [15:45] hmm [15:45] glub glub glub [15:45] glaaaarg gasp splutter [15:46] but if i went with a mythtv/xp dualboot.. i would need such a graphics card, right? just for XP? [15:46] if you wanted to play games at high resolution, sure [15:47] for playing video, you can rely on the CPU, or GPU-based acceleration. there's no GPU-based accleration for HD formats under linux, so you need a decent CPU. if the CPU is good enough under linux, it's good enough for windows [15:49] so i just need a fast CPU and a MB with onboard hdmi/DVI [15:49] correct [15:50] with nvidia [15:50] *chipset [15:51] nvidia or intel are fine [15:51] do you know the diffrence between nForce and gForce [15:52] I would like to go AMD just for the cost, so nvidia is my only choice [16:14] can someone explainto me how a mythtv backend works? [16:15] it is possible to put all cable cards on the backend and stream the video via cat5/6 network? [16:15] ahave_, cable cards? [16:15] err, tv tuner [16:15] afaik, cable cards don't work [16:15] tuners though [16:15] yes, you can do that [16:15] in fact [16:15] most people do [16:16] what type of processing power do the backends to to have? [16:16] If it's just SD content, you can even use wireless [16:16] Depends on what you want it to do [16:16] and what type of tuners you have [16:17] lets say stream HD content.. bluray .iso for example [16:17] just a backend, no frontend? [16:17] frontend would be there also [16:17] well the frontend would take most of the power, serving iso's is easy [16:17] it's just transfering content [16:18] true, all the decoding would be done on the front [16:18] yes [16:18] what about using the tv tuner cards? what if i had 2 SD and maybe one HD [16:18] thats why on backend only machines with hardware encoder cards you can go with low system specs [16:18] watching 1, other 2 recording [16:19] well if you had 2 SD tuners and an HD tuner on a backend only, you could get away with probably something around 1ghz [16:19] gah [16:19] still missing program data [16:19] again, it's the playback that requires lots of power [16:20] ok [16:20] get something like a pvr-500 (or 2 pvr-150) and a HD encoder card like the pcHDTV 550 and your set [16:21] what about HD storage.. do i need some raptor-esk hard drive to ensure no hiccups when recording off tv tuner cards? [16:21] no, pata is fine, sata is better [16:22] I did 1 HD recordings and 1 HD playback concurrent on a pata drive just fine [16:22] hmm [16:23] any need for cat6 networking? [16:23] for HD? [16:23] or 10/100 fast enough [16:23] anyone using ssd? [16:23] yea, HD [16:23] 10/100 is fast enough [16:23] would it be worth buying a 10/100/1000 just in case? [16:24] a router that is [16:24] no, and i will tell you why [16:24] IIRC, gigabit routers are rather expensive [16:24] alot more than gigabit switches [16:25] and since you wont need it for your internet (unless you have really fast) [16:25] true [16:25] i could just got with a gigabit switch [16:27] yep [16:27] thats what i did [16:27] one last Q, CPU wattage.. for a HTPC trying to be quite, how much is too much? will 65W be too much to cool quietly? [16:27] well it would also depends on your cooling fan/heatsink [16:28] well i am still looking for a nice case.. wanting one with dual 120mm fans [16:28] and lets say i get the best heatsink in can fit in the case [16:28] 65w should be fine [16:29] probably even with stock [16:29] 125W overkill? too much? [16:29] although if you really wanted quite, you would stick the backend in the basement or something and just have a frontend by itself === ahave_ is now known as ahave [16:30] oh, sorry.. the CPU i am talking about would be for the frontend [16:30] 8.04? [16:31] what do you mean by 8.04? [16:31] what are you going to install on it? Gutsy or hardy? [16:32] cause if it's hardy, and there are no tuners on your frontend, you should forego the Hard drive too and netboot [16:32] oh oh, idk yet to be honest.. mostlikely the latest and greatest, so hardy [16:32] hmm [16:33] well i can do that in the future, but for now the plan is to build the front end... adding HDs for storage as need, then once I am maxed i will offload all but one HD to the backend and install tv tuners and such [16:34] but I could at that point do a net boot as you suggest.. any performance drop? [16:34] * tgm4883_laptop shrugs [16:34] you would want to talk with laga about all that [16:35] why is that? [16:37] laga is in charge of implementing all of that [16:37] i haven't used it yet [16:39] ah [16:39] well it will be awhile before i get to that point [16:43] do you know if the LG bluray/HD dvd is mythtv compat? [16:43] well the better question is linux compatible [16:44] i found this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD [16:44] but i am still reluctant to get it [16:46] * tgm4883_laptop wouldn't get it [16:46] i like the ability to play HD dvd though [16:47] cheap! http://dvd.listings.ebay.com/_DVD-HD-DVD-Blu-ray_HD-DVD_W0QQa15961Z50605QQalistZa15961QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQcurcatZtrueQQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQgcsZ1077QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300QQpfidZ1210QQpfmodeZ2QQsabfmtsZ1QQsacatZ617QQsocmdZListingItemListQQsofocusZbs [16:48] well you could pick up just the hd-dvd drive for cheap [16:49] could throw a little money at it so even if it didn't work you wouldn't be out much [16:49] if you can still find the the xbox 360 hddvd drive is $50 new [16:49] and IIRC, it is just a regular drive inside [16:50] hmm, true. never thought about it like that [16:51] http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C12&from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=xbox+360+hddvd&sacat=49220%26catref%3DC6&fts=2&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1 [16:56] are you using a bluray dvd player? or do you know of any that are plug and play under linux? [16:57] nope [16:57] * tgm4883 isn't buying into this "nextgen" crap [16:57] heh [16:57] * tgm4883 hates over used buzzwords [16:58] do you have any HD content then? just over the air/cable? [16:58] especially when everyone is like, ohh, next gen. and i'm like sweet i'll buy one, and they hand it to me and i'm like "what the fsck is this? An optical disk? I thought this was next gen. Call me when it's on a freaking flash drive" [16:59] I use to have OTA/Cable via firewire HD, but then i moved [16:59] no i have to have directv :( [16:59] so no HD until hauppauge releases their card [17:00] i agree that flash will be the 'next gen' for media [17:00] either that or just download. but american ISPs will need to get on the ball before that happens [17:00] seriously, i can buy a 4 gb drive for like 20 bucks the size of my fingernail [17:00] true [17:01] do you download any HD content? [17:01] d/l? from where? [17:02] i havent been in the market to do so, so I am clueless about how obtainable bluray .iso are [17:02] oh [17:02] no, no piracy here [17:02] how can i activate auto mount of the windows partitions? [17:03] i get SD of HD content though, via HD boxes hooked up to my pvr-500 [17:03] so i still get pretty good looking content [17:03] in dvd quality [17:04] adac2, gutsy or hardy? [17:04] tgm4883_laptop: gutsy (mythbuntu) [17:04] i'm assuming it's NTFS? [17:05] tgm4883_laptop: I just wonder...normally it should do the fstab entries on installation time [17:05] tgm4883_laptop: yea that could be [17:05] adac2, right, but i don't think it does that for ntfs [17:05] should be something like this in the /etc/fstab [17:05] /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults 0 0 [17:05] tgm4883_laptop: thx! [17:06] wait [17:06] it might be ntfs-3g [17:06] i think it's actually [17:06] /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 [17:07] tgm4883_laptop: ok [17:07] i try both [17:07] try 3g first [17:07] as that i believe is how it's done new [17:07] now [17:08] tgm4883_laptop: do you know the command line command for mounting it on the shell? [17:08] err [17:08] somethign like [17:09] mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb5 /windows -o force [17:09] tgm4883_laptop: well it seems to work with a siple mount [17:09] * tgm4883 is googling for this info [17:09] so no ntfs [17:36] anybody kno how to set up firewire after latest updates, i cant set a port/node in the add new capture device now [17:37] the options just not there [17:38] using 7.10, just did the normal updates from teh update manager, alot of myth stuff updated [17:40] hmm.. I cannot enter the music section on mythtv [17:40] anymore [17:40] what is wrong? [18:04] adac2, make sure you updated the plugin [18:07] is mythbuntu.org down right now, or is it just me? [18:09] zoinks. That's not good... [18:09] tgm4883, Daviey ^ [18:09] are we being dugg or /.'ed? [18:10] gar so it is? [18:10] is there a torrent for the latest beta? [18:10] let me get you a functional URL [18:10] magicrobotmonkey, http://cdimages.mythbuntu.org/ [18:10] you can grab them from there for now [18:10] thx [18:11] exactly what i was looking for [18:11] oh is alpha4 the latest? [18:16] yeah [18:16] well it appears the site is "working" just taking forever [18:16] hopefully tgm4883 or Daviey can ssh in and see what's up. [18:18] lets see. according to analytics, nothing out of the ordinary on web traffic [18:18] most of it being google and direct still [18:28] hmm [18:28] still slow?! [18:31] magicrobotmonkey: should be running better now [18:37] yea it just went through [18:37] what happened? [18:41] magicrobotmonkey: apache had a locked process it seems [19:35] guys [19:36] i updated via the update mananger and now all my themes and OSD themes arent selectable [19:37] not sure whats going on [19:55] Hi, new Ubuntu user here, I'm having problems setting up Mythbuntu 7.10 for use with my D-Link DWL-520 rev. E wifi card. I've read that the hostap drivers are junk for it, so I've went ahead and blacklisted them so I no longer see the card in networking. I then installed ndiswrapper and successfully got it to install the proper INF driver, and while it says that the driver is installed and... [19:55] ...the hardware is present, the wifi won't show up in the Networking pane. Could anyone please help me? [20:00] ugh, themes fixed [20:00] but now both live and recorded video is crapping out [20:00] they start to play, then the video freezes in ~1 sec [20:00] and the audio keeps on going [20:15] apt-get says mythvideo is up-to-date [20:15] whats going on [21:12] Cackette-Laptop, did you reboot after the update? [21:13] anybody kno how to add GUID to the myth backend setup for firewire? [21:15] i have no choices under GUID [21:15] and cant choose port/node anymore after update [21:15] i kno what the GUID is but dont kno how to add it [21:44] Today's glitch: My Program Guide is freezing up after "one click" with the remote. In other words, I can move ONE grid square and it just stops..... [21:45] Hauppauge PVR-350... [21:45] Gutsy 7.10... 32-bit... [21:46] Seemed fine until a couple of days ago... [21:47] wilberfan, what painter are you using (OpenGL or QT?), which theme are you using? Is playback of recordings ok? [21:48] Hmmm... Not sure how to answer that first one... It's running under Gutsy Gnome. The theme is the 'new' orange-y one... Playback and recordings seem OK.... [21:49] wilberfan, go to setup in the frontend [21:49] ok... [21:50] Util/Setup > Setup > Apperance [21:50] What is "Paint Engine" set to? [21:50] brb (it's in the next room...) [21:51] "Qt" [21:52] Switch it to OpenGL [21:52] k... brb... [21:52] wilberfan, whats the name of the theme its at the top of that same page [21:52] Is that all it might need?? [21:53] "G.A.N.T." [21:53] ok... [21:53] well try it again now [21:53] k... [21:54] :-) [21:55] awesome, dude! [21:55] how does the 'theme' and 'painter' affect what was happening...? [21:55] And I wonder why Qt would work for awhile--then not? [22:30] testing... [22:41] question: i installed & configured mythbuntu desktop frontend on top of an existing ubuntu install. backend is remote. control-center confirms that I can talk to the remote db, but when i start the frontend, i get no ui. startup from the command line, and I get a QServerSocket error. Output is here: http://pastebin.com/m30a22fb6 [22:41] suggestions anyone? [23:10] might try the forums. that's what i'm doing since it's quiet here [23:49] dantalizing: is http running on the host?