[05:58] <tbwnoob> whats up
[05:58] <HedgeMage> hi tbwnoob
[05:58] <tbwnoob> i got eduububto and i cant get past the password
[05:59] <tbwnoob> v 7.1
[05:59] <tbwnoob> does anyone know how to login
[06:00] <tbwnoob> ?
[06:00] <HedgeMage> Well, you set the password when you installed it, didn't you?
[06:00] <tbwnoob> its live
[06:00] <tbwnoob> when i boot from cd
[06:01] <tbwnoob> it has a username and password
[06:01] <HedgeMage> ahh
[06:01] <tbwnoob> yea whats up with that
[06:01] <HedgeMage> I honestly don't know, I have not used the livecd
[06:02] <tbwnoob> how did you install it then
[06:05] <tbwnoob> well can somone help me with this password problem
[06:06] <tbwnoob> where are passwors stored on the cd
[06:07] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  they aren't stored in plaintext
[06:08] <tbwnoob> okay
[06:08] <tbwnoob> so is the any default passes
[06:09] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  did you try looking on ubuntu.org?
[06:09] <tbwnoob> yea
[06:09] <tbwnoob> they gave me this irc channel
[06:10] <HedgeMage> heh
[06:10] <HedgeMage> unfortunately, everyone seems to be sleeping
[06:10] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:10] <HedgeMage> hang on let me poke around
[06:10] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:11] <HedgeMage> I'll be slow, though, I am lecturing in drupal chat a bit
[06:12] <tbwnoob> ok
[06:17] <tbwnoob> sudo -i
[06:17] <tbwnoob> ?
[06:17] <tbwnoob> in the username
[06:17] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  you should have googled "edubuntu live cd password"
[06:18] <tbwnoob> i did
[06:18] <tbwnoob> i got sudo -i
[06:18] <HedgeMage> tbwnoob:  second result says username ubuntu password blank
[06:19] <tbwnoob> i tried that
[06:19] <HedgeMage> really?
[06:19] <HedgeMage> hrm...
[06:19] <HedgeMage> *sigh*
[06:19] <HedgeMage> edubuntu and blank password maybe?
[06:19] <HedgeMage> you'd think they'd make it autologin like the ubuntu one
[06:19] <tbwnoob> tried it
[06:20] <tbwnoob> didnt work
[06:20] <tbwnoob> sudo password root
[06:20] <tbwnoob> or sudo -i
[06:20] <tbwnoob> brb
[06:20] <HedgeMage> right but you can't use sudo unless you are logged in
[16:52] <Nubae> does anyone know if the XO one laptop per child could run as a thin terminal client?
[16:54] <highvoltage> Nubae: well, it runs linuxbios, so I guess it would support etherboot
[16:54] <highvoltage> Nubae: but why would you want to?
[16:56] <Nubae> well, for one because sugar is not really ready yet
[16:56] <Nubae> and 2 because distributing content is the main aim right now various programs
[16:57] <highvoltage> personally, I would rather use a classmate PC if you want to use it for a very mobile thin client
[16:57] <Nubae> I am looking at a volunteer position in Nepal, a pilot project with teh XO
[16:57] <highvoltage> it has nicer hardware.
[16:57] <highvoltage> aah.
[16:57] <Nubae> government already has 200 laptops
[16:57] <highvoltage> great!
[16:57] <Nubae> and I was thinking of how to apply my ltsp knowledge
[16:57] <Nubae> :-)
[16:58] <Nubae> the main problem they currently have is lack of content
[16:58] <Nubae> anyway, the XO lacks an rj45 network port so...
[16:59] <highvoltage> ouch, I didn't realise that.
[17:00] <Nubae> yeah relies entirely on mesh networking
[17:00] <highvoltage> do you plan to use any of the default system on the machines?
[17:01] <Nubae> well, at the moment the ui isn't ready, but the pilot project has started, they want me to concentrate on distributing content from servers
[17:01] <highvoltage> hmm, I thought you could perhaps put the LTSP system on the machines (on flash), and connect to the server via wireless, but LTSP over wi-fi is a bit too slow :-/
[17:01] <Nubae> ie, squid, content filtering, web based moodle like distribution
[17:02] <highvoltage> Nubae: how much ram does that olpc have again?
[17:02] <Nubae> well, maybe not if its all adhoc
[17:02] <Nubae> 256, quite a lot
[17:02] <highvoltage> Nubae: ogra_cmpc has a nice scaled down edubuntu image for the classmate pc, maybe that could be modified for the olpc
[17:02] <highvoltage> cmpc also has just below 256MB RAM.
[17:03] <Nubae> I have a small xubuntu image too, that works very fast
[17:03] <Nubae> but edubuntu has the contnet, that's what interests them right now
[17:03] <highvoltage> nice. Xubuntu works nicely in schools, but it has to be locked down. I ran Xubuntu in >200 schools too.
[17:04] <highvoltage> what content specifically?
[17:04] <Nubae> curriculum based stuff (science, geogrpahy, maths, english, etc.)
[17:05] <Nubae> gcompris alone puts the current XO content to shame
[17:05] <highvoltage> hmm, so why not just include gcompris in your xubuntu image?
[17:05] <Nubae> anyway, I have a meeting with them tomorrow and wanted to mention ltsp and its benefits
[17:06] <Nubae> that I've done, but not sure if teh XO can do it...
[17:07] <highvoltage> yeah
[17:07] <highvoltage> well I hope it goes well.
[17:08] <Nubae> yeah thanks, the XO is cool at least in spirit
[17:08] <highvoltage> yes, I think once the UI evolves to the point it is intended to be, and they do some slight hardware upgrades, then it would rock.
[17:09] <highvoltage> I think the current cpu is a bit too basic for big python apps and such. gnome-app-install crashes if you have universe enabled with only 256MB ram
[17:09] <highvoltage> so slightly more ram wouldn't hurt either.
[17:09] <Nubae> maybe low fat will work better due to wireless
[17:12]  * Nubae wonders if ltsp could distribute through a mesh
[17:14] <highvoltage> Nubae: hope this doesn't overshadow the sugar development: http://www.olpcnews.com/software/windows/xp_on_the_xo_in_60_days.html
[17:15] <Nubae> yeah, people aren't too happy about that
[17:15] <Nubae> in any case, the focus is on open source and open content, would be crazy to put XP on it
[17:16] <Nubae> not to mention power consumption
[17:20] <Nubae> anyway ubuntu has been ported to it too, as an image
[17:21] <Nubae> they say it runs more smoothly than sugar
[17:26] <Nubae> gah... http://radian.org/notebook/paradox-of-choice
[17:56] <highvoltage> RichEd, on a Sunday night!?
[19:08] <arkaniad> Hello
[19:09] <arkaniad> i found out something while installing Edubuntu 7.10
[19:09] <arkaniad> well, i had ubuntu 7.10 installed and at my house i have a router and a wireless usb adapter
[19:10] <arkaniad> in ubuntu 7.10 i was sure i config'd it right but it didnt work
[19:10] <arkaniad> now, i am running edubuntu, and it works and i set it up like on ubuntu
[19:11] <arkaniad> any conclusions?
[19:20] <Methlogic> can anyone help me? i install... i partitioned my disk and rebooted i got to the install screen hit ok then it goes to CMD prompt and says everything is ok... then my screen turns green and fades slowly....
[19:21] <Methlogic> anyone else have this problem?
[19:30] <lulemurfan> does ms virtaul pc like edubuntu? , coz it just keeps stopping when installing
[19:31] <johnny> lulemurfan, try virtualbox
[19:32] <lulemurfan> whats that?
[19:33]  * lulemurfan slaps lulemurfan with a Guppy Fish
[19:37] <johnny> guess :)
[19:37] <johnny> you're attempting to use virtualpc already, so you should have an idea :)
[19:37] <johnny> virtualbox is free to use, and seems to run linux well
[19:38] <lulemurfan> oh right
[19:38] <johnny> i have no idea why or why not virtual pc gives issues
[19:38] <johnny> since i've never seen it in real life
[19:38] <johnny> but virtualbox is supposed to work nicely in both windows and linux
[19:38] <lulemurfan> ok i'll try that
[19:38] <johnny> to run either mac or linux :)
[19:38] <johnny> and windows
[19:39] <johnny> sorry, got it backwards, it runs in mac/linux/windows to run either windows or linux
[19:39] <johnny> it can prolly run osx with hackery, but i don't know anything about it..
[19:39] <lulemurfan> all it want it to do is run linux on window
[19:40] <johnny> try virtualbox
[19:40] <johnny> :)
[23:36] <tbwnoob> hey guys
[23:36] <tbwnoob> does anyone know why my cpu fan would be shutting dow at startup and make my computer overheat
[23:38] <tbwnoob> ?
[23:52] <shawn__> okay
[23:52] <shawn__> i guess there was a small wire blocking my fan
[23:52] <shawn__> i unplugged it moved some wires and now it stays on'
[23:52] <shawn__> anyone here?
[23:59] <johnny> try #ubuntu
[23:59] <johnny> 99% of questions that apply to edubuntu also apply to ubuntu, since it is mostly the same , except the education apps