/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/16/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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daSKreechhi hunger_t03:38
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daSKreechpong *04:24
daSKreechanyone awake?04:24
CheGuevara.04:25
gribeluso no04:26
daSKreechAlpha 1 will have packages?04:28
CheGuevaraalpha 1 of what04:29
daSKreech4.104:29
CheGuevarahope so04:29
CheGuevaradon't feel like compiling04:29
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ArbyRiddell: I know it's sunday but just for reference kde3 iso 20080315 is still completely dead10:09
* Arby gone10:09
* awen_ just found the problem with brightness in kde-guidance-powermanager :D ... I need to leave now, but just to say "no need for anyone else to debug that also", i'll be back with some patches tonight10:19
* Arby back10:20
ArbyRiddell: kde4 iso 20080316 has the same problem as well now10:20
Arbythis is all in virtualbox VMs so I'll check with real CDs later just in case10:21
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jpatrickoh hi Mamarok :)13:34
Mamarokhi jpatrick :)13:35
Mamarokjpatrick: you might be of help too13:35
jpatrickMamarok: I think he's out for today, so you'll have to wait :)13:35
jpatrickMamarok: what's up?13:35
Mamaroksinc the libc-problem a few days ago, have the isos of kubuntu been corrected?13:36
jpatrickyes, they're built daily13:36
Mamarokok, thanks, so I can use them :)13:36
MamarokI only escaped the problem by a day, upgraded yesterday13:37
jpatrickphew13:37
Mamarokyep, that was close13:38
Mamarokand I wanted to do it a week ago but had an event here in Switzerland so I kept Gutsy for a few days more :)13:38
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cheguevara_ping apachelogger14:59
apacheloggercheguevara_: pong15:37
cheguevara_hey apachelogger15:38
cheguevara_one sec15:38
cheguevara_finding bug no15:39
cheguevara_here we go15:40
cheguevara_apachelogger, bug #20244415:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 202444 in oxygencursors "oxygen-cursor-theme doesn't install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20244415:40
apacheloggercheguevara_: you are very welcome to provide a debdiff ;-)15:41
cheguevara_meh lol15:42
jpatrickcheguevara_: yes, he is lazy15:42
jpatrick;-)15:42
cheguevara_its just one line :P15:42
apacheloggercheguevara_: +1 changelog entry15:42
cheguevara_true15:43
cheguevara_more karma for me i guess15:43
cheguevara_just reinstalled kubuntu and my gpg keys are missing *sigh*15:45
jpatrickcheguevara_: .... krap15:45
cheguevara_and i of course don't remember the gpg key id15:46
cheguevara_ah launchpad should15:46
jpatrickcheguevara_: you kept backups of course?15:47
cheguevara_nop15:47
jpatrick...15:47
cheguevara_does that mean i need to get a new key?15:48
jpatrickyeah, pretty much15:48
cheguevara_all this because i wanted to try networkmanager 0.7 so much...15:48
Artimuscheguevara_: What's so special about a new version of networkmanager?15:50
jpatrickcheguevara_: check ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg15:50
cheguevara_Artimus, nothing really, just wanted to try it15:51
cheguevara_jpatrick, i wiped the partition so doubt there will be anything there15:52
cheguevara_am generating a new one now anyway15:52
jpatrickcheguevara_: always keep /home on an partition :(15:52
cheguevara_yeah15:53
cheguevara_ before i wiped i moved everythign i needed to my windows partition, but forgot taht15:53
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* jpatrick hgus CheGuevara 15:53
jpatrickyou poor thing15:53
CheGuevaraheh my own fault anyway15:54
CheGuevarathis addiction of mine of always wanted the latest and greatest don't end good lol15:54
CheGuevaralike atm i am craving to compile kde 4.1 lol15:54
jpatrickworst I had with gpg was when kgpg crash and did something like rm -rf .gnupg15:56
jpatrickcrashed*15:56
CheGuevaraouch15:56
Nightrosehmmm /me backs up her key again :P15:56
CheGuevarafiregpg dont' work with ff316:04
CheGuevaragreat16:04
nixternalhola!16:29
jpatrickhola nixternal16:29
CheGuevarahey nixternal16:30
nixternalhowdy16:30
CheGuevarahttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/12695925/oxygencursors_0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2.debdiff16:31
CheGuevarahere we go16:31
CheGuevara*pokes apachelogger*16:33
CheGuevaraor whoever else feels like uploading16:34
* apachelogger points at jpatrick16:37
CheGuevaragod you are lazy :P16:39
nixternalgot an ffe for it?16:39
nixternalif we upload it now, we won't see it until after the freeze16:39
apacheloggernixternal: it's a fix16:40
CheGuevarayeah16:40
nixternalthen upload it16:40
nixternalI have been running my own package for those16:40
CheGuevarawho? :P16:40
nixternalsince nobody seems to be updating them in svn or git or whatever16:41
* apachelogger points at jpatrick16:41
CheGuevaraaww he ran away :P16:43
smarterCould someone please upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde4-style-bespin -0ubuntu2? It's a bugfix16:44
* apachelogger points at jpatrick16:44
CheGuevaralol16:45
* nixternal points at jpatrick 16:45
nixternalscrew it, if apachelogger is going to point, then so am I ;p16:45
smarterpoor jpatrick :P16:45
* nixternal goes back to reading horrid emails16:45
smarteroh, scim just popped up again16:46
CheGuevaracan't we point at Riddell :P16:46
CheGuevarascim is in my kde 4 tray16:47
CheGuevarawith its ugly gnome icons16:47
smartermine doesn't even have a systray16:47
smarterjust a toolbar16:47
smarterand an ugly gtk style16:47
jpatrickpingage of doom16:53
jpatrickluckly I use away_hilight_notice.pl16:53
CheGuevaracan you upload then :P16:57
jpatrickwhat do you think I'm doing...16:58
CheGuevaranever know lol16:58
CheGuevarathanks16:58
jpatrickhad to install cdbs, dput, debhelper16:59
CheGuevarahave you just reinstalled as well?16:59
jpatrickyeah, formated last week16:59
CheGuevaraah17:00
CheGuevarabtw kubuntu-kde4-meta is missing a depend on openoffice.org-kde, which makes ooo have no icons :P17:00
CheGuevarashould i do a debdiff for that?17:00
jpatrickyeah17:01
CheGuevaraon it17:02
jpatricksmarter: "dput ubuntu kde4-style-bespin_0.1\~svn080206-0ubuntu2_source.changes"17:09
smarterjpatrick: I can do that?17:09
jpatricksmarter: I just did it17:09
smarterah ;)17:10
smarterthanks17:10
* jpatrick moves in on CheGuevara's oxygen debdiff17:10
CheGuevara:P17:11
jpatrickwhat kinda of package has on depends?17:12
jpatricks/on/no17:13
jpatrick"0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2" - evil..17:13
smarterjpatrick: my package naming scheme was better :P http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=oxygen-cursor-theme17:14
CheGuevarait does now :P17:15
CheGuevarahmmm17:15
CheGuevarado we want just the icons17:15
CheGuevaraor the whole -kde package17:15
CheGuevaramakes openoffice.org have kde 3 dialogs17:16
jpatrickCheGuevara: oxygen-cursor-theme-extra depends on xcursor-themes, what about oxygen-cursor-theme ?17:16
CheGuevaraoh feck17:17
jpatrickshould I just copy&paste?17:17
smarterdoesn't it just works with ${shlibs:Depends} ?17:18
CheGuevarajpatrick, yes please17:18
jpatricksmarter: no binaries in a cursor them17:18
CheGuevaradoubt it, because the dependency is due to update-alternatives17:18
jpatrick-e*17:18
CheGuevaranot because of the package17:18
CheGuevarai think i'll leave the kubuntu-kde4-meta for Riddel, since there are cd space issue, etc to think about17:21
* jpatrick wonders where his uploads went17:23
CheGuevaralol17:24
CheGuevarabug #19822017:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198220 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "[hardy] No logout possible in KDE4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19822017:25
CheGuevarathats a weird one17:25
jpatrick"- Removed Depends, since there are no dependencies for cursor packages"17:25
jpatrick!jdong | apachelogger17:25
ubotuapachelogger: <Hobbsee> jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!17:25
CheGuevaralol17:25
jpatrickCheGuevara: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxygencursors17:26
jpatrick"hardy  frozen  universe  release"17:26
CheGuevarahttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000403.html17:27
apacheloggerjpatrick: IIRC there onyl was shlibs17:27
CheGuevarajpatrick, so your upload in in a queue ?17:28
apacheloggerwhich wouldn't catch up postinst stuff anyway17:28
jpatrickCheGuevara: yeah...17:28
CheGuevaraaww thought it would be a soft freeze as well :P17:29
* jpatrick .endUploads()17:29
jpatrickbefore I get lynched17:30
CheGuevarai wanna fix something else now :P17:30
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awen_does anybody know how kde-guidance-powermanager picks up the events? ... i'm looking at the brightness issue, but it looks like it only picks up the down events but not the up events18:52
smarter_dcop18:53
awen_smarter_: do you know in which file to look, or where?18:54
smarter_no, grep iface in the code, you may find it18:54
smarter_or just dcop18:54
awen_smarter_: thanks18:56
blueyedAny ideas/progress on bug 185131?19:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18513119:06
awen_i've found the bindings... but who is responsible for calling power manager (using dcop) with the events when a button is pressed?19:06
jpatrickawen_: hal?19:15
awen_jpatrick: sounds reasonable... (but not a small one to dig into for that)19:18
jpatrickawen_: I once did sudo /etc/init.d/hal stop and powermanager just stopped19:19
awen_jpatrick: :)19:19
jpatrickawen_: do you mean the key binding?19:20
smarter_awen_: dcop is not used in kde419:21
smarter_it's dbus19:21
awen_smarter_: i'm using kde3 right now19:21
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smarter_awen_: the bug you're pointing at concerns kde419:22
smarter_"[20:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131"19:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18513119:22
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed]19:22
jpatricksmarter: that was blueyed19:22
awen_jpatrick: thanks ;)19:22
smarteroh yes19:22
awen_jpatrick: the problem is, that i press the button; the events get picked up by acpid (i can see it in the log)... but guidance-power-manager doesn't pick it up19:23
smarterI was confused 'cause Konversation use the same color for their nicks ;)19:23
jpatrickawen_: hmm, I wish I knew more about coding..19:23
jpatrickawen_: maybe asking sebas might help, I believe I helped write powermanager19:23
DaSkreechjpatrick: You believe that you helped?19:24
jpatrickhim*19:24
jpatrickhe*19:24
awen_i can check that the integration with dcop works (executing the event from kdcop works) ... but i have no idea who translates the acpi event into a dcop event19:24
* smarter looks at the code19:24
jpatrickDaSkreech: :p19:25
awen_jpatrick: okay... let's see if sebas has a good idea19:26
DaSkreechjpatrick: :) what? I was laughing like crazy19:26
smarterawen_: I don't think guidance-power-manager is used when you press a button19:30
smarteracpid does his own things19:30
awen_smarter: it shows me a nice pop-up :) ... so it does something19:31
awen_yeah, kde-guidance-powermanagers part of the brightness changing works now... now it is just the events behaving incorrectly19:39
DaSkreechcan anyone give me a handle on if KDE 4.1 alpha packages are planned?19:39
DaSkreechI know they are traditioanlly provided but they come out about the same time as Hardy19:40
jpatrickDaSkreech: Debian is getting them soon19:40
DaSkreech4.1 packages are planned on Debian?19:40
DaSkreechHmm cool19:40
* jpatrick loves hanging out in #debian-qt-kde19:41
DaSkreechThey have a #debian-kde and a #debian-qt-kde ?19:41
DaSkreechare they planning a gtk fork of KDE ?19:41
jpatrick-kde is for support19:41
nareshovheh19:42
DaSkreechah and the -dev[e][l] moniker is overused I guess19:42
DaSkreechor maybe they have a thing against ruby and python KDE apps :)19:42
nareshovruby/python KDE apps are in qt-bindings of ruby/python anyway19:43
* DaSkreech prods nixternal with a Buju "inspiration roll"19:46
awen_Riddell: I have a fix for the brightness problem you pointed out (sadly we have a hal/dcop error also, but the kde-guidance part is fixed)... do you have a bug report for it, i should attach it to?20:09
smartermmh, why is there a powermanage.py and powermanage.py.new in the guidance source?20:10
awen_smarter: because it is a +svn type package, and the devs were in the process of rewriting the file?20:12
awen_Riddell: in any case I've uploaded it to http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu6.debdiff20:13
awen_smarter: if you press brightness down or brightness up, does a popup appear near the panel (on kde3)... and does it do it both up and down or only in one of the cases?20:14
awen_or if anybody else can verify ^^^20:15
smarterif I use the brightness key nothing appears but it works20:15
smarterif I use dcop it doesn't work and a pop-up appears with "Brightness: 0%"20:16
awen_smarter: it's the second part i fixed... (brightness *% getting stucked)20:16
awen_there is some strange things regarding those brightness events20:17
awen_smarter: the debdiff above should make the popup work (when you use dcop)20:18
* smarter tests...20:21
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jpatrickhey claydoh20:26
claydohhi jpatrick20:28
claydohanother week done , only 57 hours this week :)20:29
jpatrickCheGuevara: ping20:36
jpatrickoh no, forget it20:36
* awen_ gives up ... can't find out who is responsible for connecting the acpi-events and kde-guidance-powermanager22:00
CheGuevarajpatrick, you called?22:01
jpatrickCheGuevara: nothing, I misread something22:02
CheGuevaraoh kk22:02
CheGuevarajpatrick, is #debian-qt-kde private or smthing22:11
jpatrickCheGuevara: it's on OFTC22:11
CheGuevaraoh right22:12
jpatrickCheGuevara: /connect irc.oftc.org22:12
jpatrick.net*22:12
CheGuevarathx22:13
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awen_does anyone know when Lure normally is around?23:53
* awen_ found what handles the key-events for brightness... kubuntu-patch made by Lure in KMilo23:54
ScottK2awen_: He's in Europe (France IIRC).23:58

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