[03:38] <daSKreech> hi hunger_t
[04:24] <daSKreech> pong *
[04:24] <daSKreech> anyone awake?
[04:25] <CheGuevara> .
[04:26] <gribelu> so no
[04:28] <daSKreech> Alpha 1 will have packages?
[04:29] <CheGuevara> alpha 1 of what
[04:29] <daSKreech> 4.1
[04:29] <CheGuevara> hope so
[04:29] <CheGuevara> don't feel like compiling
[10:09] <Arby> Riddell: I know it's sunday but just for reference kde3 iso 20080315 is still completely dead
[10:09]  * Arby gone
[10:19]  * awen_ just found the problem with brightness in kde-guidance-powermanager :D ... I need to leave now, but just to say "no need for anyone else to debug that also", i'll be back with some patches tonight
[10:20]  * Arby back
[10:20] <Arby> Riddell: kde4 iso 20080316 has the same problem as well now
[10:21] <Arby> this is all in virtualbox VMs so I'll check with real CDs later just in case
[13:34] <jpatrick> oh hi Mamarok :)
[13:35] <Mamarok> hi jpatrick :)
[13:35] <Mamarok> jpatrick: you might be of help too
[13:35] <jpatrick> Mamarok: I think he's out for today, so you'll have to wait :)
[13:35] <jpatrick> Mamarok: what's up?
[13:36] <Mamarok> sinc the libc-problem a few days ago, have the isos of kubuntu been corrected?
[13:36] <jpatrick> yes, they're built daily
[13:36] <Mamarok> ok, thanks, so I can use them :)
[13:37] <Mamarok> I only escaped the problem by a day, upgraded yesterday
[13:37] <jpatrick> phew
[13:38] <Mamarok> yep, that was close
[13:38] <Mamarok> and I wanted to do it a week ago but had an event here in Switzerland so I kept Gutsy for a few days more :)
[14:59] <cheguevara_> ping apachelogger
[15:37] <apachelogger> cheguevara_: pong
[15:38] <cheguevara_> hey apachelogger
[15:38] <cheguevara_> one sec
[15:39] <cheguevara_> finding bug no
[15:40] <cheguevara_> here we go
[15:40] <cheguevara_> apachelogger, bug #202444
[15:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 202444 in oxygencursors "oxygen-cursor-theme doesn't install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202444
[15:41] <apachelogger> cheguevara_: you are very welcome to provide a debdiff ;-)
[15:42] <cheguevara_> meh lol
[15:42] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: yes, he is lazy
[15:42] <jpatrick> ;-)
[15:42] <cheguevara_> its just one line :P
[15:42] <apachelogger> cheguevara_: +1 changelog entry
[15:43] <cheguevara_> true
[15:43] <cheguevara_> more karma for me i guess
[15:45] <cheguevara_> just reinstalled kubuntu and my gpg keys are missing *sigh*
[15:45] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: .... krap
[15:46] <cheguevara_> and i of course don't remember the gpg key id
[15:46] <cheguevara_> ah launchpad should
[15:47] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: you kept backups of course?
[15:47] <cheguevara_> nop
[15:47] <jpatrick> ...
[15:48] <cheguevara_> does that mean i need to get a new key?
[15:48] <jpatrick> yeah, pretty much
[15:48] <cheguevara_> all this because i wanted to try networkmanager 0.7 so much...
[15:50] <Artimus> cheguevara_: What's so special about a new version of networkmanager?
[15:50] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: check ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg
[15:51] <cheguevara_> Artimus, nothing really, just wanted to try it
[15:52] <cheguevara_> jpatrick, i wiped the partition so doubt there will be anything there
[15:52] <cheguevara_> am generating a new one now anyway
[15:52] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: always keep /home on an partition :(
[15:53] <cheguevara_> yeah
[15:53] <cheguevara_>  before i wiped i moved everythign i needed to my windows partition, but forgot taht
[15:53]  * jpatrick hgus CheGuevara 
[15:53] <jpatrick> you poor thing
[15:54] <CheGuevara> heh my own fault anyway
[15:54] <CheGuevara> this addiction of mine of always wanted the latest and greatest don't end good lol
[15:54] <CheGuevara> like atm i am craving to compile kde 4.1 lol
[15:56] <jpatrick> worst I had with gpg was when kgpg crash and did something like rm -rf .gnupg
[15:56] <jpatrick> crashed*
[15:56] <CheGuevara> ouch
[15:56] <Nightrose> hmmm /me backs up her key again :P
[16:04] <CheGuevara> firegpg dont' work with ff3
[16:04] <CheGuevara> great
[16:29] <nixternal> hola!
[16:29] <jpatrick> hola nixternal
[16:30] <CheGuevara> hey nixternal
[16:30] <nixternal> howdy
[16:31] <CheGuevara> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12695925/oxygencursors_0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2.debdiff
[16:31] <CheGuevara> here we go
[16:33] <CheGuevara> *pokes apachelogger*
[16:34] <CheGuevara> or whoever else feels like uploading
[16:37]  * apachelogger points at jpatrick
[16:39] <CheGuevara> god you are lazy :P
[16:39] <nixternal> got an ffe for it?
[16:39] <nixternal> if we upload it now, we won't see it until after the freeze
[16:40] <apachelogger> nixternal: it's a fix
[16:40] <CheGuevara> yeah
[16:40] <nixternal> then upload it
[16:40] <nixternal> I have been running my own package for those
[16:40] <CheGuevara> who? :P
[16:41] <nixternal> since nobody seems to be updating them in svn or git or whatever
[16:41]  * apachelogger points at jpatrick
[16:43] <CheGuevara> aww he ran away :P
[16:44] <smarter> Could someone please upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde4-style-bespin -0ubuntu2? It's a bugfix
[16:44]  * apachelogger points at jpatrick
[16:45] <CheGuevara> lol
[16:45]  * nixternal points at jpatrick 
[16:45] <nixternal> screw it, if apachelogger is going to point, then so am I ;p
[16:45] <smarter> poor jpatrick :P
[16:45]  * nixternal goes back to reading horrid emails
[16:46] <smarter> oh, scim just popped up again
[16:46] <CheGuevara> can't we point at Riddell :P
[16:47] <CheGuevara> scim is in my kde 4 tray
[16:47] <CheGuevara> with its ugly gnome icons
[16:47] <smarter> mine doesn't even have a systray
[16:47] <smarter> just a toolbar
[16:47] <smarter> and an ugly gtk style
[16:53] <jpatrick> pingage of doom
[16:53] <jpatrick> luckly I use away_hilight_notice.pl
[16:57] <CheGuevara> can you upload then :P
[16:58] <jpatrick> what do you think I'm doing...
[16:58] <CheGuevara> never know lol
[16:58] <CheGuevara> thanks
[16:59] <jpatrick> had to install cdbs, dput, debhelper
[16:59] <CheGuevara> have you just reinstalled as well?
[16:59] <jpatrick> yeah, formated last week
[17:00] <CheGuevara> ah
[17:00] <CheGuevara> btw kubuntu-kde4-meta is missing a depend on openoffice.org-kde, which makes ooo have no icons :P
[17:00] <CheGuevara> should i do a debdiff for that?
[17:01] <jpatrick> yeah
[17:02] <CheGuevara> on it
[17:09] <jpatrick> smarter: "dput ubuntu kde4-style-bespin_0.1\~svn080206-0ubuntu2_source.changes"
[17:09] <smarter> jpatrick: I can do that?
[17:09] <jpatrick> smarter: I just did it
[17:10] <smarter> ah ;)
[17:10] <smarter> thanks
[17:10]  * jpatrick moves in on CheGuevara's oxygen debdiff
[17:11] <CheGuevara> :P
[17:12] <jpatrick> what kinda of package has on depends?
[17:13] <jpatrick> s/on/no
[17:13] <jpatrick> "0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2" - evil..
[17:14] <smarter> jpatrick: my package naming scheme was better :P http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=oxygen-cursor-theme
[17:15] <CheGuevara> it does now :P
[17:15] <CheGuevara> hmmm
[17:15] <CheGuevara> do we want just the icons
[17:15] <CheGuevara> or the whole -kde package
[17:16] <CheGuevara> makes openoffice.org have kde 3 dialogs
[17:16] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: oxygen-cursor-theme-extra depends on xcursor-themes, what about oxygen-cursor-theme ?
[17:17] <CheGuevara> oh feck
[17:17] <jpatrick> should I just copy&paste?
[17:18] <smarter> doesn't it just works with ${shlibs:Depends} ?
[17:18] <CheGuevara> jpatrick, yes please
[17:18] <jpatrick> smarter: no binaries in a cursor them
[17:18] <CheGuevara> doubt it, because the dependency is due to update-alternatives
[17:18] <jpatrick> -e*
[17:18] <CheGuevara> not because of the package
[17:21] <CheGuevara> i think i'll leave the kubuntu-kde4-meta for Riddel, since there are cd space issue, etc to think about
[17:23]  * jpatrick wonders where his uploads went
[17:24] <CheGuevara> lol
[17:25] <CheGuevara> bug #198220
[17:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198220 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "[hardy] No logout possible in KDE4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198220
[17:25] <CheGuevara> thats a weird one
[17:25] <jpatrick> "- Removed Depends, since there are no dependencies for cursor packages"
[17:25] <jpatrick> !jdong | apachelogger
[17:25] <ubotu> apachelogger: <Hobbsee> jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[17:25] <CheGuevara> lol
[17:26] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxygencursors
[17:26] <jpatrick> "hardy  frozen  universe  release"
[17:27] <CheGuevara> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000403.html
[17:27] <apachelogger> jpatrick: IIRC there onyl was shlibs
[17:28] <CheGuevara> jpatrick, so your upload in in a queue ?
[17:28] <apachelogger> which wouldn't catch up postinst stuff anyway
[17:28] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: yeah...
[17:29] <CheGuevara> aww thought it would be a soft freeze as well :P
[17:29]  * jpatrick .endUploads()
[17:30] <jpatrick> before I get lynched
[17:30] <CheGuevara> i wanna fix something else now :P
[18:52] <awen_> does anybody know how kde-guidance-powermanager picks up the events? ... i'm looking at the brightness issue, but it looks like it only picks up the down events but not the up events
[18:53] <smarter_> dcop
[18:54] <awen_> smarter_: do you know in which file to look, or where?
[18:54] <smarter_> no, grep iface in the code, you may find it
[18:54] <smarter_> or just dcop
[18:56] <awen_> smarter_: thanks
[19:06] <blueyed> Any ideas/progress on bug 185131?
[19:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131
[19:06] <awen_> i've found the bindings... but who is responsible for calling power manager (using dcop) with the events when a button is pressed?
[19:15] <jpatrick> awen_: hal?
[19:18] <awen_> jpatrick: sounds reasonable... (but not a small one to dig into for that)
[19:19] <jpatrick> awen_: I once did sudo /etc/init.d/hal stop and powermanager just stopped
[19:19] <awen_> jpatrick: :)
[19:20] <jpatrick> awen_: do you mean the key binding?
[19:21] <smarter_> awen_: dcop is not used in kde4
[19:21] <smarter_> it's dbus
[19:21] <awen_> smarter_: i'm using kde3 right now
[19:21]  * jpatrick pokes smarter_'s _
[19:22] <smarter_> awen_: the bug you're pointing at concerns kde4
[19:22] <smarter_> "[20:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131"
[19:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131
[19:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed]
[19:22] <jpatrick> smarter: that was blueyed
[19:22] <awen_> jpatrick: thanks ;)
[19:22] <smarter> oh yes
[19:23] <awen_> jpatrick: the problem is, that i press the button; the events get picked up by acpid (i can see it in the log)... but guidance-power-manager doesn't pick it up
[19:23] <smarter> I was confused 'cause Konversation use the same color for their nicks ;)
[19:23] <jpatrick> awen_: hmm, I wish I knew more about coding..
[19:23] <jpatrick> awen_: maybe asking sebas might help, I believe I helped write powermanager
[19:24] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: You believe that you helped?
[19:24] <jpatrick> him*
[19:24] <jpatrick> he*
[19:24] <awen_> i can check that the integration with dcop works (executing the event from kdcop works) ... but i have no idea who translates the acpi event into a dcop event
[19:24]  * smarter looks at the code
[19:25] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: :p
[19:26] <awen_> jpatrick: okay... let's see if sebas has a good idea
[19:26] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: :) what? I was laughing like crazy
[19:30] <smarter> awen_: I don't think guidance-power-manager is used when you press a button
[19:30] <smarter> acpid does his own things
[19:31] <awen_> smarter: it shows me a nice pop-up :) ... so it does something
[19:39] <awen_> yeah, kde-guidance-powermanagers part of the brightness changing works now... now it is just the events behaving incorrectly
[19:39] <DaSkreech> can anyone give me a handle on if KDE 4.1 alpha packages are planned?
[19:40] <DaSkreech> I know they are traditioanlly provided but they come out about the same time as Hardy
[19:40] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: Debian is getting them soon
[19:40] <DaSkreech> 4.1 packages are planned on Debian?
[19:40] <DaSkreech> Hmm cool
[19:41]  * jpatrick loves hanging out in #debian-qt-kde
[19:41] <DaSkreech> They have a #debian-kde and a #debian-qt-kde ?
[19:41] <DaSkreech> are they planning a gtk fork of KDE ?
[19:41] <jpatrick> -kde is for support
[19:42] <nareshov> heh
[19:42] <DaSkreech> ah and the -dev[e][l] moniker is overused I guess
[19:42] <DaSkreech> or maybe they have a thing against ruby and python KDE apps :)
[19:43] <nareshov> ruby/python KDE apps are in qt-bindings of ruby/python anyway
[19:46]  * DaSkreech prods nixternal with a Buju "inspiration roll"
[20:09] <awen_> Riddell: I have a fix for the brightness problem you pointed out (sadly we have a hal/dcop error also, but the kde-guidance part is fixed)... do you have a bug report for it, i should attach it to?
[20:10] <smarter> mmh, why is there a powermanage.py and powermanage.py.new in the guidance source?
[20:12] <awen_> smarter: because it is a +svn type package, and the devs were in the process of rewriting the file?
[20:13] <awen_> Riddell: in any case I've uploaded it to http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu6.debdiff
[20:14] <awen_> smarter: if you press brightness down or brightness up, does a popup appear near the panel (on kde3)... and does it do it both up and down or only in one of the cases?
[20:15] <awen_> or if anybody else can verify ^^^
[20:15] <smarter> if I use the brightness key nothing appears but it works
[20:16] <smarter> if I use dcop it doesn't work and a pop-up appears with "Brightness: 0%"
[20:16] <awen_> smarter: it's the second part i fixed... (brightness *% getting stucked)
[20:17] <awen_> there is some strange things regarding those brightness events
[20:18] <awen_> smarter: the debdiff above should make the popup work (when you use dcop)
[20:21]  * smarter tests...
[20:26] <jpatrick> hey claydoh
[20:28] <claydoh> hi jpatrick
[20:29] <claydoh> another week done , only 57 hours this week :)
[20:36] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: ping
[20:36] <jpatrick> oh no, forget it
[22:00]  * awen_ gives up ... can't find out who is responsible for connecting the acpi-events and kde-guidance-powermanager
[22:01] <CheGuevara> jpatrick, you called?
[22:02] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: nothing, I misread something
[22:02] <CheGuevara> oh kk
[22:11] <CheGuevara> jpatrick, is #debian-qt-kde private or smthing
[22:11] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: it's on OFTC
[22:12] <CheGuevara> oh right
[22:12] <jpatrick> CheGuevara: /connect irc.oftc.org
[22:12] <jpatrick> .net*
[22:13] <CheGuevara> thx
[23:53] <awen_> does anyone know when Lure normally is around?
[23:54]  * awen_ found what handles the key-events for brightness... kubuntu-patch made by Lure in KMilo
[23:58] <ScottK2> awen_: He's in Europe (France IIRC).