=== arnl is now known as Aranel === vore is now known as erov === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 [03:38] hi hunger_t === _czessi is now known as Czessi [04:24] pong * [04:24] anyone awake? [04:25] . [04:26] so no [04:28] Alpha 1 will have packages? [04:29] alpha 1 of what [04:29] 4.1 [04:29] hope so [04:29] don't feel like compiling === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:09] Riddell: I know it's sunday but just for reference kde3 iso 20080315 is still completely dead [10:09] * Arby gone [10:19] * awen_ just found the problem with brightness in kde-guidance-powermanager :D ... I need to leave now, but just to say "no need for anyone else to debug that also", i'll be back with some patches tonight [10:20] * Arby back [10:20] Riddell: kde4 iso 20080316 has the same problem as well now [10:21] this is all in virtualbox VMs so I'll check with real CDs later just in case === uga_ is now known as uga [13:34] oh hi Mamarok :) [13:35] hi jpatrick :) [13:35] jpatrick: you might be of help too [13:35] Mamarok: I think he's out for today, so you'll have to wait :) [13:35] Mamarok: what's up? [13:36] sinc the libc-problem a few days ago, have the isos of kubuntu been corrected? [13:36] yes, they're built daily [13:36] ok, thanks, so I can use them :) [13:37] I only escaped the problem by a day, upgraded yesterday [13:37] phew [13:38] yep, that was close [13:38] and I wanted to do it a week ago but had an event here in Switzerland so I kept Gutsy for a few days more :) === Igorot_ is now known as Igorot [14:59] ping apachelogger [15:37] cheguevara_: pong [15:38] hey apachelogger [15:38] one sec [15:39] finding bug no [15:40] here we go [15:40] apachelogger, bug #202444 [15:40] Launchpad bug 202444 in oxygencursors "oxygen-cursor-theme doesn't install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202444 [15:41] cheguevara_: you are very welcome to provide a debdiff ;-) [15:42] meh lol [15:42] cheguevara_: yes, he is lazy [15:42] ;-) [15:42] its just one line :P [15:42] cheguevara_: +1 changelog entry [15:43] true [15:43] more karma for me i guess [15:45] just reinstalled kubuntu and my gpg keys are missing *sigh* [15:45] cheguevara_: .... krap [15:46] and i of course don't remember the gpg key id [15:46] ah launchpad should [15:47] cheguevara_: you kept backups of course? [15:47] nop [15:47] ... [15:48] does that mean i need to get a new key? [15:48] yeah, pretty much [15:48] all this because i wanted to try networkmanager 0.7 so much... [15:50] cheguevara_: What's so special about a new version of networkmanager? [15:50] cheguevara_: check ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg [15:51] Artimus, nothing really, just wanted to try it [15:52] jpatrick, i wiped the partition so doubt there will be anything there [15:52] am generating a new one now anyway [15:52] cheguevara_: always keep /home on an partition :( [15:53] yeah [15:53] before i wiped i moved everythign i needed to my windows partition, but forgot taht === cheguevara_ is now known as CheGuevara [15:53] * jpatrick hgus CheGuevara [15:53] you poor thing [15:54] heh my own fault anyway [15:54] this addiction of mine of always wanted the latest and greatest don't end good lol [15:54] like atm i am craving to compile kde 4.1 lol [15:56] worst I had with gpg was when kgpg crash and did something like rm -rf .gnupg [15:56] crashed* [15:56] ouch [15:56] hmmm /me backs up her key again :P [16:04] firegpg dont' work with ff3 [16:04] great [16:29] hola! [16:29] hola nixternal [16:30] hey nixternal [16:30] howdy [16:31] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12695925/oxygencursors_0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2.debdiff [16:31] here we go [16:33] *pokes apachelogger* [16:34] or whoever else feels like uploading [16:37] * apachelogger points at jpatrick [16:39] god you are lazy :P [16:39] got an ffe for it? [16:39] if we upload it now, we won't see it until after the freeze [16:40] nixternal: it's a fix [16:40] yeah [16:40] then upload it [16:40] I have been running my own package for those [16:40] who? :P [16:41] since nobody seems to be updating them in svn or git or whatever [16:41] * apachelogger points at jpatrick [16:43] aww he ran away :P [16:44] Could someone please upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde4-style-bespin -0ubuntu2? It's a bugfix [16:44] * apachelogger points at jpatrick [16:45] lol [16:45] * nixternal points at jpatrick [16:45] screw it, if apachelogger is going to point, then so am I ;p [16:45] poor jpatrick :P [16:45] * nixternal goes back to reading horrid emails [16:46] oh, scim just popped up again [16:46] can't we point at Riddell :P [16:47] scim is in my kde 4 tray [16:47] with its ugly gnome icons [16:47] mine doesn't even have a systray [16:47] just a toolbar [16:47] and an ugly gtk style [16:53] pingage of doom [16:53] luckly I use away_hilight_notice.pl [16:57] can you upload then :P [16:58] what do you think I'm doing... [16:58] never know lol [16:58] thanks [16:59] had to install cdbs, dput, debhelper [16:59] have you just reinstalled as well? [16:59] yeah, formated last week [17:00] ah [17:00] btw kubuntu-kde4-meta is missing a depend on openoffice.org-kde, which makes ooo have no icons :P [17:00] should i do a debdiff for that? [17:01] yeah [17:02] on it [17:09] smarter: "dput ubuntu kde4-style-bespin_0.1\~svn080206-0ubuntu2_source.changes" [17:09] jpatrick: I can do that? [17:09] smarter: I just did it [17:10] ah ;) [17:10] thanks [17:10] * jpatrick moves in on CheGuevara's oxygen debdiff [17:11] :P [17:12] what kinda of package has on depends? [17:13] s/on/no [17:13] "0.0.2008-01-27-a7b68163e7c8ccc1376-2ubuntu2" - evil.. [17:14] jpatrick: my package naming scheme was better :P http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=oxygen-cursor-theme [17:15] it does now :P [17:15] hmmm [17:15] do we want just the icons [17:15] or the whole -kde package [17:16] makes openoffice.org have kde 3 dialogs [17:16] CheGuevara: oxygen-cursor-theme-extra depends on xcursor-themes, what about oxygen-cursor-theme ? [17:17] oh feck [17:17] should I just copy&paste? [17:18] doesn't it just works with ${shlibs:Depends} ? [17:18] jpatrick, yes please [17:18] smarter: no binaries in a cursor them [17:18] doubt it, because the dependency is due to update-alternatives [17:18] -e* [17:18] not because of the package [17:21] i think i'll leave the kubuntu-kde4-meta for Riddel, since there are cd space issue, etc to think about [17:23] * jpatrick wonders where his uploads went [17:24] lol [17:25] bug #198220 [17:25] Launchpad bug 198220 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "[hardy] No logout possible in KDE4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198220 [17:25] thats a weird one [17:25] "- Removed Depends, since there are no dependencies for cursor packages" [17:25] !jdong | apachelogger [17:25] apachelogger: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [17:25] lol [17:26] CheGuevara: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxygencursors [17:26] "hardy frozen universe release" [17:27] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000403.html [17:27] jpatrick: IIRC there onyl was shlibs [17:28] jpatrick, so your upload in in a queue ? [17:28] which wouldn't catch up postinst stuff anyway [17:28] CheGuevara: yeah... [17:29] aww thought it would be a soft freeze as well :P [17:29] * jpatrick .endUploads() [17:30] before I get lynched [17:30] i wanna fix something else now :P === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [18:52] does anybody know how kde-guidance-powermanager picks up the events? ... i'm looking at the brightness issue, but it looks like it only picks up the down events but not the up events [18:53] dcop [18:54] smarter_: do you know in which file to look, or where? [18:54] no, grep iface in the code, you may find it [18:54] or just dcop [18:56] smarter_: thanks [19:06] Any ideas/progress on bug 185131? [19:06] Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131 [19:06] i've found the bindings... but who is responsible for calling power manager (using dcop) with the events when a button is pressed? [19:15] awen_: hal? [19:18] jpatrick: sounds reasonable... (but not a small one to dig into for that) [19:19] awen_: I once did sudo /etc/init.d/hal stop and powermanager just stopped [19:19] jpatrick: :) [19:20] awen_: do you mean the key binding? [19:21] awen_: dcop is not used in kde4 [19:21] it's dbus [19:21] smarter_: i'm using kde3 right now [19:21] * jpatrick pokes smarter_'s _ [19:22] awen_: the bug you're pointing at concerns kde4 [19:22] "[20:06] Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131" [19:22] Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185131 === smarter_ is now known as smarter [19:22] Launchpad bug 185131 in kde4libs "[GUTSY KDE4] Suspend and hibernate don't work" [High,Confirmed] [19:22] smarter: that was blueyed [19:22] jpatrick: thanks ;) [19:22] oh yes [19:23] jpatrick: the problem is, that i press the button; the events get picked up by acpid (i can see it in the log)... but guidance-power-manager doesn't pick it up [19:23] I was confused 'cause Konversation use the same color for their nicks ;) [19:23] awen_: hmm, I wish I knew more about coding.. [19:23] awen_: maybe asking sebas might help, I believe I helped write powermanager [19:24] jpatrick: You believe that you helped? [19:24] him* [19:24] he* [19:24] i can check that the integration with dcop works (executing the event from kdcop works) ... but i have no idea who translates the acpi event into a dcop event [19:24] * smarter looks at the code [19:25] DaSkreech: :p [19:26] jpatrick: okay... let's see if sebas has a good idea [19:26] jpatrick: :) what? I was laughing like crazy [19:30] awen_: I don't think guidance-power-manager is used when you press a button [19:30] acpid does his own things [19:31] smarter: it shows me a nice pop-up :) ... so it does something [19:39] yeah, kde-guidance-powermanagers part of the brightness changing works now... now it is just the events behaving incorrectly [19:39] can anyone give me a handle on if KDE 4.1 alpha packages are planned? [19:40] I know they are traditioanlly provided but they come out about the same time as Hardy [19:40] DaSkreech: Debian is getting them soon [19:40] 4.1 packages are planned on Debian? [19:40] Hmm cool [19:41] * jpatrick loves hanging out in #debian-qt-kde [19:41] They have a #debian-kde and a #debian-qt-kde ? [19:41] are they planning a gtk fork of KDE ? [19:41] -kde is for support [19:42] heh [19:42] ah and the -dev[e][l] moniker is overused I guess [19:42] or maybe they have a thing against ruby and python KDE apps :) [19:43] ruby/python KDE apps are in qt-bindings of ruby/python anyway [19:46] * DaSkreech prods nixternal with a Buju "inspiration roll" [20:09] Riddell: I have a fix for the brightness problem you pointed out (sadly we have a hal/dcop error also, but the kde-guidance part is fixed)... do you have a bug report for it, i should attach it to? [20:10] mmh, why is there a powermanage.py and powermanage.py.new in the guidance source? [20:12] smarter: because it is a +svn type package, and the devs were in the process of rewriting the file? [20:13] Riddell: in any case I've uploaded it to http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu6.debdiff [20:14] smarter: if you press brightness down or brightness up, does a popup appear near the panel (on kde3)... and does it do it both up and down or only in one of the cases? [20:15] or if anybody else can verify ^^^ [20:15] if I use the brightness key nothing appears but it works [20:16] if I use dcop it doesn't work and a pop-up appears with "Brightness: 0%" [20:16] smarter: it's the second part i fixed... (brightness *% getting stucked) [20:17] there is some strange things regarding those brightness events [20:18] smarter: the debdiff above should make the popup work (when you use dcop) [20:21] * smarter tests... === emonkey is now known as jihii === jihii is now known as emonke === emonke is now known as emonkey [20:26] hey claydoh [20:28] hi jpatrick [20:29] another week done , only 57 hours this week :) [20:36] CheGuevara: ping [20:36] oh no, forget it [22:00] * awen_ gives up ... can't find out who is responsible for connecting the acpi-events and kde-guidance-powermanager [22:01] jpatrick, you called? [22:02] CheGuevara: nothing, I misread something [22:02] oh kk [22:11] jpatrick, is #debian-qt-kde private or smthing [22:11] CheGuevara: it's on OFTC [22:12] oh right [22:12] CheGuevara: /connect irc.oftc.org [22:12] .net* [22:13] thx === pgquiles is now known as pgquiles|moving [23:53] does anyone know when Lure normally is around? [23:54] * awen_ found what handles the key-events for brightness... kubuntu-patch made by Lure in KMilo [23:58] awen_: He's in Europe (France IIRC).