[00:00] <clsk> Is it possible to convert an ubuntu system to kubuntu without having to reinstall? Could I just install the KDE packages or something like that?
[00:03] <BluesKaj> clsk, yes , install kubuntu-desktop , you can keep the gnome dssktop if you wish , just choose which desktop you want at the login page menu
[00:05] <atomicpotato> clsk, install kubuntu-desktop
[00:05] <atomicpotato> you can then start removing whatever GNOME packages you feel like as well
[00:06] <edgar_> holA
[00:07] <prince_jammys> !purekde | clsk
[00:07] <ubotu> clsk: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[00:14] <BluesKaj> been trying to install pyTivo but it's not launching for some reason , apt doesn't recognize it and katapult just opens the folder
[00:20] <RickKnight> still need help with Gutsy upgrade. Boot after upgrade drops to busybox shell. No HDs created. Help
[00:28] <Level15> Hi. Any ideas why my laptop's volume is lower on linux than on win?
[01:02] <emo> hi
[01:02] <adz21c> hi
[01:20] <xfgvxfg> hola que tal
[01:21] <achu> hola quetal
[01:22] <achu> primera ves que chat con linux
[01:24] <aib> how do I disable blinking items in the panel?
[01:25] <aib> i've decided that doing things because they annoy me is counterproductive
[01:26] <adz21c> blinking items?
[01:27] <myrtille> Good evening :)
[01:27] <myrtille> i'm looking for a commandoline based program, that resolves ips, but i can't seem to find one
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> myrtille: ping?
[01:28] <myrtille> well yes and no :p
[01:28] <myrtille> i don't want to ping, just to resolve the ip
[01:28] <myrtille> but ping would do the trick
[01:28] <myrtille> i could have thought of this myself :D
[01:29] <intelikey> whois
[01:29] <intelikey> err no that's going the other dirrection.   sorry
[01:30] <wesley> hi where can i put in kde4 kopete themes it says can not find place to store thmes
[01:30] <Jsn0327> how do you find out which version of KDE u have?
[01:30] <intelikey> myrtille host ?
[01:30] <intelikey> Jsn0327 help about
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> myrtille- nslookup or dig
[01:32] <Jsn0327> how do i upgrade to kde4?  i currently have 3.5.8
[01:32] <myrtille> thx :)
[01:32] <intelikey> !kde4
[01:32] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:34] <raffay> hi people
[01:34] <raffay> anybody here?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> yep
[01:34] <raffay> :)
[01:34] <raffay> hi there
[01:35] <raffay> can anybody help me with Ktorrent?
[01:35] <Jsn0327> alright, it did it again, earlier my mouse pointer turned into a circle with a diagional line threw it and i had a small icon of a notebook with a pencil, now I just clicked on KTorrent which is minimized in the bottom bar and now I have the same circle as my mouse cursor only this time I have the icon for KTorrent (very small) instead of the book and pencil.  what is the deal with this?  I can't click on anything while the mouse cursor is
[01:35] <Jsn0327> like this
[01:36] <raffay> i cant download anything w/ ktorrent
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: deja vu
[01:36] <raffay> anybody help?
[01:36] <Jsn0327> Well obviously it's eather a feature or a bug in KDE. does anyone else have this problem?
[01:37] <bugs> Can someone help me configure a printer.. I am using a desktop with gutsy.. I have a savin CLP27 DN PCL6
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: I have NEVER seen that
[01:37] <raffay> i need help w/ ktorrent
[01:37] <raffay> :(
[01:38] <raffay> 0 nodes
[01:38] <cezar> hello
[01:38] <raffay> hi cezar
[01:40] <bugs> I cannot find the printer listed in the control panel
[01:41] <raffay> it seems nobody will help me
[01:41] <raffay> :(
[01:42] <Jsn0327> wierd. as soon as i did ctrl+esc and killed ktorrent, my mouse pointer came back
[01:42] <atomicpotato> god damn, Konversation sucks. Where's my scripting support?
[01:42] <raffay> hey jsn, can u help me?
[01:42] <Jsn0327> whats your prob
[01:43] <raffay> im using ktorrent
[01:43] <raffay> and it won download anything
[01:43] <raffay> 0 nodes
[01:43] <raffay> i dont use any firewalls
[01:43] <raffay> whats the problem then?
[01:43] <Jsn0327> hmm
[01:43] <bugs> what is a device " URI "
[01:43] <Frederick> folks how can I make a ghost of my system:
[01:43] <Frederick> ?
[01:44] <Jsn0327> ubuntu comes with a built in firewall
[01:44] <raffay> really?
[01:44] <Jsn0327> !iptables
[01:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:44] <raffay> so what should i do?
[01:45] <Jsn0327> take a look at that
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: may have to do with launch feedback
[01:45] <Jsn0327> what is launch feedback?
[01:46] <raffay> how do u run iptables?
[01:47] <wesley> how do i start a root browser
[01:49] <raffay> well ...i havent been smarter after all
[01:50] <Jsn0327> raffay: read the link that it posted.  it is all commandline
[01:50] <raffay> yeah i saw that
[01:50] <raffay> ive just run it in konsole
[01:51] <raffay> but i think im too newbie for this
[01:51] <raffay> :(
[01:51] <wesley> how do i open a root file browser within kde4 ?
[01:53] <Jsn0327> raffay: i'm new to.  do a google search and see if there is a gui for iptables
[01:53] <raffay> ok
[01:54] <raffay> ill try
[01:54] <raffay> but last week i could download everything w/ ktorrent
[01:54] <raffay> this week i cant...
[01:54] <raffay> i dont understand...
[01:59] <wesley> hello can some tell how to start a root dolphin
[02:00] <raffay> torrent experts needed :)
[02:06] <oren> how can i get sound to work on videos on firefox?
[02:07] <Frederick> folks where gvim and kvim deleted from ubuntu?
[02:08] <oren> anyone know how to get sound working?
[02:09] <praWned> thats quite a general question man.
[02:09] <praWned> can you be more specific please?
[02:09] <praWned> sound for the whole system? for a program?
[02:10] <bky> i just had a power failure while using firefox, and now all my firefox settings/passwords/bookmarks are gone
[02:10] <bky> it's not the profile problem, so far as I can tell. "firefox -profilemanager" shows only 1 profile, and it is empty
[02:10] <praWned> :(
[02:11] <oren> sound just on browsers
[02:11] <raffay> prawned, can u help me w/ Ktorrent?
[02:11] <raffay> or anybody?
[02:11] <bky> i mainly care about my passwords, does anyone know where firefox keeps them?
[02:11] <praWned> i can try. whats t he problem?
[02:11] <raffay> it wont download anything
[02:11] <raffay> ive got 0 nodes
[02:12] <raffay> DHT logging in...
[02:12] <robersonfox> hi, the date of my gpg key expires, how i activate this?
[02:12] <raffay> and thats it
[02:12] <Jsn0327> i added the deb line to sources.list for kde4 but when i apt-get kde4-core  it can't find it!?  am i not looking for the right package?
[02:12] <praWned> raffay: how old is the torrent. and how many seeds/leech does the tracker say it has?
[02:12] <raffay> it has 400 seeds
[02:12] <raffay> its not old
[02:12] <praWned> oren: any sound? or is it specific to a site?
[02:13] <praWned> private tracker site or public?
[02:13] <raffay> hmmmm
[02:13] <oren> i tired youtube
[02:13] <raffay> i think public
[02:13] <oren> let me check break
[02:13] <raffay> i found it on ISOHUNT
[02:13] <praWned> ok...check if they tell you to use a specific port
[02:13] <robersonfox> hi people, my gpg key expires, how i activate this again?
[02:14] <praWned> some tracker sites do to help avoid users having their traffic "managed" by their ISP. by not using the default port
[02:14] <praWned> try using a port over 50000
[02:14] <oren> yeah its all sites video
[02:14] <praWned> oren: hmm. the video shows though right?
[02:14] <oren> yeah
[02:15] <praWned> oren: are you using ALSA or OSS?
[02:15] <oren> autodetect?
[02:15] <praWned> try setting it to ALSA
[02:16] <praWned> another program on the system might be hogging the sound drivers
[02:16] <praWned> thats not a problem with ALSA afaik. but i have a limited knowledge of that kinda stuff
[02:16] <praWned> when you've changed it. close the browser and reopen it
[02:16] <raffay> port, udp tracker port and udp tracker for DHT
[02:16] <raffay> :(
[02:17] <oren> tried it, no good
[02:17] <praWned> just port
[02:17] <raffay> ok
[02:17] <raffay> ill try
[02:17] <praWned> oren: hm. do any other torrents work?
[02:17] <praWned> raffay: goodluck!
[02:17] <raffay> thx
[02:18] <oren> torrents?
[02:18] <oren> im trying to get sound to work in browsers
[02:18] <praWned> sorry. wrong way around
[02:18]  * praWned tired
[02:19] <praWned> yeah try setting your sound to alsa
[02:19] <praWned> see if it fixes the prob
[02:19] <oren> in the browser?
[02:19] <praWned> otherwise id ask someone else. my sound has always worked :-/
[02:19] <oren> the system is set to alsa
[02:19] <praWned> no in your general system settings
[02:19] <praWned> ah
[02:19] <raffay> is it possible that my ISP is blocking the torrents?
[02:20] <praWned> possible, but more likely that theyre limiting the speed for traffic on the default torrent port numbers
[02:20] <praWned> and giving the traffic low priority on the network
[02:21] <raffay> so what can i do?
[02:21] <praWned> raffay: do any other torrents work?
[02:21] <raffay> anything?
[02:21] <raffay> NO
[02:21] <raffay> i tried them all
[02:21] <noobusmaximus> raffay do you have comcast
[02:21] <raffay> from utorrent to
[02:21] <raffay> azureus
[02:21] <raffay> 0 nodes everywhere
[02:21] <raffay> :(
[02:21] <praWned> are you at uni or on some sort of campus connection
[02:21] <raffay> no...
[02:21] <raffay> im at home
[02:21] <praWned> have your own router
[02:21] <praWned> k
[02:21] <raffay> no
[02:22] <raffay> i use wireless net
[02:22] <Jsn0327> !kde4
[02:22] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:22] <praWned> wireless straight to your ISP?
[02:22] <raffay> yeah
[02:22] <praWned> ok
[02:22] <raffay> thats it
[02:22] <praWned> um. possible theyre blocking it
[02:22] <praWned> you have a software firewall installed?
[02:22] <raffay> :(
[02:22] <praWned> or any kind of firewall?
[02:22] <raffay> no
[02:22] <raffay> no firewall
[02:22] <praWned> hm
[02:22] <raffay> last week i installed
[02:22] <praWned> give them a call
[02:22] <raffay> kubuntu
[02:22] <raffay> and now
[02:22] <raffay> im runnung kubuntu
[02:22] <raffay> its clean
[02:22] <praWned> ok
[02:22] <raffay> no firewalls
[02:22] <raffay> i guess
[02:23] <praWned> um. yeah give them a call
[02:23] <praWned> if they say they arent blocking it though you then know its something on your end
[02:23] <praWned> you have torrents working on any other OS?
[02:23] <raffay> i tried it in XP
[02:23] <raffay> no success
[02:23] <raffay> at all...
[02:23] <praWned> no dice?
[02:23] <noobusmaximus> if its comcast theyre gonna say theyre not but they are
[02:23] <praWned> hmm
[02:23] <praWned> yeah it sounds like the ports blocked
[02:23] <raffay> last week it worked
[02:24] <raffay> in ubuntu
[02:24] <raffay> 120 nodes
[02:24] <praWned> isnt it illegal for them to do sh*t like that?
[02:24] <raffay> well...
[02:24] <noobusmaximus> yes but they dont care
[02:24] <raffay> in serbia what is legal? :D
[02:24] <raffay> lol
[02:24] <praWned> what happened to net neutrality
[02:24] <praWned> ah
[02:24] <raffay> :D
[02:24] <noobusmaximus> and yes its either low priority , traffic shaping and throttlin BitTorrent
[02:24] <noobusmaximus> throttling*
[02:25] <raffay> it makes me furious
[02:25] <praWned> my ISP tease me. they give me a 20mbit connection but say that if i download any more than 3GB between 4pm and 9pm then i get capped to 5mbit on a crummy, contented line!
[02:25] <noobusmaximus> comcast?
[02:25] <praWned> change isp
[02:25] <praWned> no
[02:25] <eduncan01> I'm on comcast and can download bit torrents. . .
[02:25] <raffay> if i changed IP
[02:25] <noobusmaximus> i advise getting Verizon FioS
[02:25] <raffay> it wont let me login
[02:25] <noobusmaximus> (select areas only)
[02:25] <praWned> raffay do you have a long history of large bittorrent usage?
[02:26] <raffay> no
[02:26] <raffay> not really
[02:26] <praWned> during your time as a comcast user
[02:26] <raffay> i used to use utorrent
[02:26] <raffay> but it wont work now
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> i currently have comcast and when i run wire shark i get red flagged packets from comcast reseting my connection
[02:26] <raffay> the good old days...
[02:26] <praWned> noobusmaximus: encrypt!
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> and cant block
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> yep
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> doesnt work
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> or
[02:26] <noobusmaximus> i didnt do it right
[02:27] <praWned> get on usenet and get yoself some 256bit SSL
[02:27] <noobusmaximus> haha good idea
[02:27] <praWned> www.giganews.com
[02:27] <noobusmaximus> but ive called comcast about it and the swear that theyre not throttling
[02:27] <noobusmaximus> they*
[02:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> !piracy
[02:27] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[02:27] <noobusmaximus> oooooooooo
[02:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> comcast *is* throttling, they're being taken to court over it.
[02:28] <Ch1ppy> hi, I have opera set as my default browser, but whenever I open a link from another application (say, akregator) the link is opened in a tab that is already opened to something else, so I lose a page... is there any way to get links to open in a new tab in opera?
[02:28] <praWned> the use of usenet isnt questionably legal
[02:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> but yes, they say they aren't.
[02:28] <noobusmaximus> ya i seen the law suit
[02:28] <Pici> !ot
[02:28] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:28] <praWned> fair ;)
[02:29] <raffay> no i have 36 nodes
[02:29] <raffay> thats more than nothing
[02:29] <raffay> lol
[02:29] <noobusmaximus> i need to find an unrestricted IRC chat
[02:29] <jmbkeyes> lj
[02:29] <praWned> make your own ;)
[02:29] <noobusmaximus> ya i try but no success
[02:29] <noobusmaximus> VB2008
[02:30] <noobusmaximus> VS2008*
[02:30] <praWned> Visual Studio?
[02:30] <noobusmaximus> yes
[02:31] <praWned> what you wana use that for? :P
[02:31] <noobusmaximus> haha
[02:31] <noobusmaximus> any other suggestions?
[02:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> erm...  eclipse?
[02:33] <praWned> kdevelop
[02:33] <noobusmaximus> you guys have any creations?
[02:33] <noobusmaximus> i'll check those
[02:33] <noobusmaximus> usable on Ubuntu?
[02:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> both are, yes
[02:33] <noobusmaximus> great
[02:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> both are in the repos
[02:33] <praWned> oh nothing impressive. im still learning c++.
[02:34] <noobusmaximus> yes me too
[02:34] <myrtille> @Ch1ppy i'm not usually using opera, but if you open your preferences, click on "advanced" and select the "tabs" part. There's the option "reuse current tab" you can deselct. maybe that'll do the trick
[02:34] <Ch1ppy> myrtille: alas, that doesn't seem to do anything.  Thanks though ^^
[02:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> for c++, you're probably going to want to look into kdevelop
[02:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> i know eclipse supports it, but i don't know how *well*
[02:35] <Regital> hmh... is there a way to delete a whole bunch of files at the same time in konsole
[02:35] <Regital> cause i have to delete about 200 files in konsole but i dont feel like typing 200 lines
[02:35] <praWned> are they all the same filetype?
[02:35] <Regital> umm
[02:36] <Regital> some of them are
[02:36] <Ch1ppy> myrtille: aha, got it.  Needed to add the -newpage option
[02:36] <praWned> are all the files you want to delete in the same folder?
[02:36] <Daisuke-Laptop> rm *.somextension works well
[02:36] <praWned> or just rm * if the above is true
[02:36] <myrtille> i'll stop looking then ;)
[02:36] <praWned> or *.*
[02:36] <gtt> i need to know how to mount a fish:// into the fs at startup?
[02:36] <Regital> praWned, yeah
[02:37] <praWned> well so long as there are no files in that folder you wanna keep - rm *
[02:37] <gtt> ah... mount ssh
[02:37] <gtt> via sshfs
[02:38] <Regital> well im removing compiz fusion completely so i dont think there should be any files i wanna keep
[02:38] <praWned> did you install it from a repository?
[02:38] <praWned> using apt
[02:38] <Regital> praWned yes
[02:39] <raffay> ive got 1 leecher
[02:39] <raffay> is it OK?
[02:39] <praWned> sudo apt-get remove compiz-core compiz-plugis
[02:39] <raffay> 37 nodes...
[02:39] <raffay> :S
[02:39] <praWned> its better than none ^^
[02:39] <raffay> thx :D
[02:39] <praWned> Regital: sudo apt-get remove compiz-core compiz-plugis
[02:39] <raffay> 37 nodes... thats not enoug i guess
[02:39] <MrJoey> Should a bootable USB be formatted like a hard drive or like a CD drive?
[02:40] <praWned> sometimes tracker sites report the incorrect amount of peers
[02:40] <raffay> snubbed choked
[02:40] <raffay> what are these???
[02:40] <oren> how do force close a program?
[02:40] <oren> laike end task in windows
[02:41] <praWned> raffay: sounds like a network issue and/or the other peer
[02:41] <Regital> praWned, it says theres nothing there, but i know there is because ¨locate compiz |more¨ gives me a list of a whole bunch of lines
[02:41] <praWned> rejecting your connection or failing to respond to the request. could be to do with traffic throttling by your ISP
[02:41] <Regital> a list of a whole bunch of files*
[02:42] <oren> how do force close a program?
[02:42] <raffay> i leecher... good 4 nothing
[02:42] <oren> like end task in windows
[02:42] <raffay> 1 leecher.. :S
[02:42] <raffay> nothings coming
[02:42] <myrtille> @oren kill [PID] or killall [name]
[02:43] <oren> i have to do it in konsole?
[02:43] <praWned> Regital: apt-get says that theres nothing there?
[02:43] <myrtille> probably not. :p It's the only way I know ;)
[02:43] <praWned> Regital: you running KDE?
[02:44] <myrtille> @owen you've tried strg+c and alt+F4
[02:45] <praWned> sudo apt-get remove compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:45] <praWned> @ Regital
[02:46] <oren> also sound doesnt work on any video file? i am playing mp3s
[02:46] <oren> linux ftl
[02:46] <praWned> oren: perseverence, patience and research 4tw
[02:46] <oren> 10000 stupid problems and to think people complain about windows
[02:47] <oren> one min soun works one min it doesnt
[02:47] <oren> then this prob hangs up
[02:47] <oren> then it doesnt
[02:47] <praWned> oren: chill out. people here provide support for free on their own time. respect that
[02:47] <oren> everything is so iffy
[02:47] <Regital> praWned, im removing them manualluy
[02:47] <Regital> from the folders
[02:47] <praWned> oren: linux is free
[02:48] <oren> i guess you get what you pay for
[02:48] <Regital> id rather have something for free with small problems, than pay ~$200 for something with major problems
[02:49] <praWned> oren: you dont pay for linux and you get a hell of alot
[02:51] <Regital> oren, you get ¨end task¨ with ctrl + esc
[02:51] <oren> ok that worked
[02:51] <oren> thanks
[02:52] <MrJoey> "10000 stupid problems and to think people complain about windows" ==> The vast majority of these problems can be corrected with simple commands, whereas Windows problems often involve downloading shareware and/or giving up.
[02:52] <Regital> yup
[02:52] <basy> hi when i play film in kaffeine i can hear audio but video is broken, a can see only pink boxes... VLC the same...
[02:52] <oren> i had sound working and now it doesnt work with any video files, xine opens then freezes
[02:52] <praWned> or paying a further 200 bucks to someone else for them to sort the problem instead
[02:52] <oren> i tired reseting audo
[02:53] <Regital> oren, have you tried other audio software that are in the menu?
[02:53] <oren> vlc plays video but no audio
[02:53] <Regital> like kaffeine?
[02:53] <oren> kaffenine doesnt even load it just keeps trying to load
[02:53] <praWned> oren: this is a fresh install yea?
[02:54] <oren> yeah
[02:54] <oren> fiesty fawn
[02:54] <Regital> thats the older one
[02:54] <Regital> wait
[02:54] <praWned> okay. i suggest upgrading to gutsy gibbon for a start
[02:55] <praWned> unless you purposefuly chose to stay on fawn
[02:55] <praWned> for some other reason
[02:55] <oren> how do i upgrade?
[02:56] <basy> oren: try "ps aux | grep kaffeine" and then killall kaffeine and try again sometimes
[02:56] <basy> helps
[02:57] <oren> oren@oren-desktop:~$ killall kaffeine
[02:57] <oren> kaffeine: no process killed
[02:58] <basy> sometimes some prcess of kaffeine stays and after i cannot run any more film, so i have to kill them all
[02:58] <seksu> my ftp won't work. using guardog. how do i change outgoing port?
[02:59] <basy> but today i can see only pink screen of all videos that i p\play in kaffeine or vlc .... Any ideas? How to reinstall codecs?
[02:59] <asobi> my ftp won't work. using guardog. how do i change outgoing port?
[03:00] <asobi> using filezilla
[03:00] <naught101> asobi: try using konqueror
[03:01] <asobi> ?
[03:14] <cesar_> hola
[03:14] <cesar_> alguien que use kubuntui
[03:14] <cesar_> i have problem with my kubuntu
[03:16] <Biggles> how do you install domino?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | cesar_
[03:17] <ubotu> cesar_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:26] <Arwen> ugh, it's been an entire year without a new FFMPEG package
[03:26] <Arwen> this sucks
[03:26] <cesar_> hi
[03:27] <cesar_> hello
[03:27] <cesar_> hola
[03:28] <pedro_> quien esta\
[03:28] <NickPresta> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:28] <cesar_> si
[03:29] <cesar_> hola pedro
[03:29] <cesar_> hola ubotu
[03:29] <Biggles> how do you install domino?
[03:29] <ubuntu> does anyone have prior knowledge about nimblex??
[03:29] <Biggles> anybody knwo how?
[03:30] <ubuntu> I want to know how to edit the boot parameters for nimblex
[03:30] <ubuntu> can anyone help me??
[03:32] <littlebigmon> biggles, what does domino do??
[03:33] <Biggles> domino... i need it to install this theme apparently
[03:33] <Biggles> its for wigets or w/e :S lol
[03:34] <littlebigmon> so where are you at in the installation process??
[03:35] <Biggles> no where
[03:35] <littlebigmon> well first start by downloading and unpacking it
[03:35] <Biggles> apparently I have to extractr it and then do ./configure which does nothing
[03:36] <littlebigmon> once you extract it, find the file that is titled configure
[03:36] <littlebigmon> or look for a terminal file
[03:36] <littlebigmon> you are somewhat familiar with terminal right??
[03:37] <Biggles> ya
[03:38] <littlebigmon> ok well find the terminal file drag the file into the terminal window and press the paste
[03:38] <littlebigmon> that should get you pretty much the whole way there
[03:38] <littlebigmon> the only problem I've come across is the desktop icon
[03:39] <Biggles> oh lol
[03:39] <Biggles> like 4 hours later and finally i get help
[03:39] <Biggles> thanks a bunch :)
[03:40] <Biggles> oh i get this checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:40] <Biggles> does that mean anything?
[03:40] <stdin> !xlibs
[03:40] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following package: xorg-dev
[03:41] <littlebigmon> well then
[03:41] <stdin> if you're compiling a KDE (3) app/plugin/theme you'll want "kde-devel"
[03:41] <littlebigmon> lol
[03:41] <littlebigmon> do you guys know how to edit boot parameters??
[03:41] <stdin> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <littlebigmon> so, go into the midnight commander and do it right
[03:42] <littlebigmon> or just put it like that in terminal??
[03:42] <stdin> use kate if you want "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.list"
[03:43] <klobster> lol midnight commander.  I can't believe that hack of a program is still around
[03:44] <ata2> hello everybody, i just installed OSX as side-kick to OSX on my iMac. I want to access my HFS+ partitions (at least) in read only from kubuntu but I am having some troubles in having those partitions automounted by changing /etc/fstab. Can you take a look at this paste: http://rafb.net/p/GQAUtU26.html and tell me what you think I am doing wrong?
[03:45] <littlebigmon> yeah I'm trying to edit the boot parameters on nimblex which still uses it
[03:45] <stdin> ata2: try with "hfsplus" instead of "hfs"
[03:46] <Biggles> hmm...
[03:47] <Biggles> my downloads go up and then they stop and then they go up again :S
[03:47] <stdin> ata2: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions too
[03:47] <ata2> stdin: wow, taht worked :)
[03:47] <Biggles> like +100KB/s for a couple seconds and the it hits like 2B/s
[03:47] <ata2> stdin: do you have any pointed on kubuntu+iMac setup?
[03:48] <ata2> stdin: my screen is a bit screwed up... it's a 16:9 and the image is stretched
[03:48] <ata2> also the graphic card is not installed
[03:48] <stdin> ata2: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ but I don't own a mac so can't vouch for it
[03:50] <Biggles> i have an imac... I'm debating wether or not to get rid of windows and place Kubuntu or Gentoo on it instead :S
[03:51] <ata2> stdin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelMacSupport?highlight=%28Mac%29%7C%28Intel%29
[03:51] <ata2> thanks :)
[03:57] <littlebigmon> hey I'm sorry what was the boot parameter command??
[03:57] <Biggles> is there anything i can do to make kubuntu run a little faster?
[03:58] <Biggles> like eliminate some things or somethin?
[03:58] <littlebigmon> you can install it to the hdd if you haven't already done so
[03:58] <Biggles> its nstalled
[03:59] <littlebigmon> I have no idea then lol
[03:59] <littlebigmon> sorry
[03:59] <kalorin_> install proper video drivers/
[03:59] <kalorin_> if they're not already installed
[03:59] <kalorin_> that'll certainly slow things down
[03:59] <Biggles> i just dont have much ram and this computer isnt really worth upgrading
[03:59] <littlebigmon> ahh
[03:59] <littlebigmon> does anyone know the boot parameter sequence??
[04:00] <littlebigmon> sorry command
[04:00] <Biggles> how do i know if i have proper ones?
[04:00] <kalorin_> well
[04:00] <kalorin_> type dmesg in a command prompt and read
[04:00] <kalorin_> and see that it detects a video card and loads a driver that makes sense to load for that card
[04:01] <Biggles> ok
[04:02] <littlebigmon> kalorin do you know the boot parameters sequence
[04:03] <littlebigmon> command*
[04:03] <kalorin_> command?
[04:03] <kalorin_> I'm not sure what you mean exactly parameters sequence?
[04:03] <kalorin_> you mean like what arguments that ti should be booted with?
[04:04] <kalorin_> ## ## End Default Options ##
[04:04] <kalorin_> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[04:04] <kalorin_> root            (hd0,0)
[04:04] <kalorin_> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=e7809260-f222-4b6f-acdf-a6fa301fc8a5 ro quiet splash
[04:04] <kalorin_> initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[04:04] <kalorin_> quiet
[04:04] <kalorin_> like that?
[04:04] <stdin> !paste | kalorin_
[04:04] <ubotu> kalorin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:05] <kalorin_> midnight and 5 lines of text gets me directed to the paste bin
[04:05] <kalorin_> this channel is kind of dumb
[04:05] <stdin> kalorin_: erm, tough
[04:05] <kalorin_> not really
[04:05] <stdin> it's midnight where you are, but not for everyone
[04:05] <kalorin_> I don't need to be here helping people
[04:05] <littlebigmon> actually how to edit the boot parameters
[04:06] <stdin> and these are the channel rules, so
[04:06] <stdin> tough
[04:06] <ata2> stdin: mhh, something is weird.. i have 2 partitions, both hfs+
[04:06] <kalorin_> have fun with your channel and your not helping people but crying about a few lines of pasted text
[04:06] <ata2> stdin: I gave them exactly the same entry in fstab
[04:06] <littlebigmon> wait kalorin
[04:06] <littlebigmon> ok guess not
[04:07] <littlebigmon> does anyone know how to edit the boot parameters
[04:07] <ata2> stdin: look here: http://rafb.net/p/fKtn0030.html
[04:07] <Jsn0327> I followed the tutorial to setup the samba shares server on both my laptop and desktop.  It says to map the drive using \\ubuntumachine\username  in a windows, how do you do this on another kubuntu machine?
[04:07] <stdin> littlebigmon: 'system setting > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems' should help
[04:07] <ata2> stdin: this is wieird...
[04:08] <stdin> ata2: what does "sudo fdisk -l" show?
[04:08] <ata2> stdin: this http://rafb.net/p/BypU0C73.html
[04:09] <ata2> the first partition is mounted without problems
[04:09] <ata2> it's the second that is behaving weirdly
[04:09] <ata2> stdin: wonder what "Linux" means... a bit generic
[04:10] <stdin> ata2: it's just general, it doesn't guarantee a particular format/filesystem
[04:11] <littlebigmon> the one that someone had given me was something like edit /grub/........
[04:11] <ata2> stdin: what do you think about that error though?
[04:11] <littlebigmon> i can't quite remember the rest
[04:11] <stdin> "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.list"
[04:12] <stdin> ata2: what does "sudo file -s /dev/sda3" show then?
[04:13] <ata2> stdin: gives /dev/sda3: data
[04:13] <littlebigmon> stdin: since you seem very knowledgeable in linux
[04:13] <littlebigmon> can you help me edit the boot parameters on nimblex
[04:13] <klobster> stdin: long time no see!
[04:13] <stdin> ata2: doesn't look like it's formatted then, maybe raw data
[04:14] <stdin> littlebigmon: what is nimblex?
[04:14] <ata2> stdin: mhh, i see
[04:14] <Jsn0327> when I try to add a network folder for samba shares I get the error "KDEInt could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/knetattach' "  does anyone know how to fix this error?
[04:14] <stdin> ata2: "*it's not formatted" rather
[04:14] <littlebigmon> it's a linux system
[04:14] <stdin> littlebigmon: distro?
[04:14] <littlebigmon> i'm guessing so
[04:14] <stdin> Jsn0327: yeah, it's a bug
[04:14] <ata2> stdin: but even the one that mounts give the same output to file
[04:15] <Jsn0327> can it be fixed?
[04:15] <stdin> Jsn0327: needs to be fixed upstream (by KDE)
[04:15] <stdin> ata2: not sure, I've never used HFS
[04:16] <stdin> littlebigmon: what do you need to edit it to?
[04:16] <ata2> ok thanks for the suggestion anyway
[04:16] <Jsn0327> so you can not map a samba share?
[04:16] <ata2> i never wrote data to the sda3
[04:16] <littlebigmon> it want to make it so that I can edit the system without installing the whole system
[04:16] <ata2> but leopard should have formatted it
[04:16] <ata2> ill see :)
[04:16] <praWned> mmmm leopard
[04:16] <littlebigmon> I want to run if off of a USB device which I already have but I want it to run like a full installed linux
[04:17] <stdin> littlebigmon: so just install the distro to the usb disk
[04:17] <littlebigmon> i already did
[04:17] <stdin> so what's the problem then?
[04:17] <klobster> I think he means s/installing/booting/
[04:18] <littlebigmon> I just want to make it run fully because right now it runs like a liveCD and configurations aren't being saved
[04:18] <littlebigmon> like if I download a new program when I reboot it's no longer there
[04:18] <Dr_willis_> Ubuntun/Kubuntu  - has some unofficial things to do to make them install properly  to a usb device.
[04:18] <Dr_willis_> then theres the persistant live cd tweaks.
[04:19] <Dr_willis_> pendrivelinux web site has some of the info.
[04:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[04:19] <stdin> Dr_willis_: he's on about "nimblex", apparently another distro
[04:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> then...  NMP?
[04:19] <ata2> stdin: thanks a lot byebye
[04:19] <Dr_willis_> for a linux thats easy to get on a pendrive. the lateset release of SLAX was amazing easy.
[04:19] <stdin> ata2: bye
[04:20] <littlebigmon> I'm talking about nimblex, you can find it on nimblex.net
[04:20] <littlebigmon> bye ata2
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> littlebigmon,  and you can find info on that at the pendrivelinux.com site also I imagine
[04:20] <Jsn0327> Does anyone know if there is another way to map a network drive in kbuntu?
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> I tested out  the livecd of nimblx the otehr day..   for about an hr. :)
[04:20] <littlebigmon> don't get me wrong I love the system
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> Jsn0327,  what kind of 'network drive' are you talking about?
[04:21] <littlebigmon> I just want to be able to save my configurations and stuff
[04:21] <Jsn0327> like a samba share
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> littlebigmon,  theres persistant home type setups. then theres the whole system installed to a usb device you boot as a normal isntall setups.
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> littlebigmon,  you can easially mount samba shares to anyplace you want.
[04:22] <Dr_willis_> littlebigmon,  or use the fusesmb tool to make a 'Network' directory that shows the whole network.
[04:22] <littlebigmon> Dr willis I'm not trying to do the samba shares
[04:23] <Jsn0327> when i try to add a network folder i get the error
[04:23] <Jsn0327> when I try to add a network folder for samba shares I get the error "KDEInt could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/knetattach' "  does anyone know how to fix this error?
[04:23] <Jsn0327> they say its a bug
[04:23] <Jsn0327> so how do you add the folder?
[04:24] <cuznt> mkdir folder's name
[04:24] <cuznt> oh duh
[04:24] <littlebigmon> so does anyone think they can help with the boot parameters for nimblex
[04:25] <cuznt> !info knetattach
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> oops : heh
[04:25] <ubotu> Package knetattach does not exist in gutsy
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> Jsn0327,  mount them with the fstab, or other tools.  KDE dosent mount the shares. it sort of browses them as needed
[04:26] <Jsn0327> i just installed fusesmb but i don't see it in the apps list.  is it a terminal app only?
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> Jsn0327,  google for fusesmb wiki ubuntu, and read/follow the wiki page.
[04:26] <Jsn0327> ok
[04:27] <Dr_willis_> nimblix seems to have a usb drive installer.
[04:27] <Dr_willis_> http://www.nimblex.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=85&Itemid=42
[04:27] <littlebigmon> it does and I have it on the usb but it only runs just like a live CD install
[04:28] <littlebigmon> it doesn't save the configurations you edit
[04:28] <littlebigmon> like if I add a program and reboot the computer the program will no longer be there
[04:30] <littlebigmon> changes=/dev/device ---> allows you to use a partition formatted with a Linux file system (e.g. ext3) to store all the changes you made in NimbleX. This way you can use NimbleX a lot like a conventional Linux that's installed on the HDD. If you don't want to bother creating a Linux partition you can also used a file that can be found on the CD in a zip archive. Just unpack this file in the root of one of your partitions and use
[04:30] <littlebigmon> the parameter like this: changes=nimblex.data Actually this parameter is used by default on the CD but I wanted to explain what it does. I guess you just have to unpack the file in the root of one of your partitions that's not formatted as an NTFS file system.
[04:30] <littlebigmon> that's what I wanted to do
[04:31] <littlebigmon> mine just didn't do it
[04:32] <littlebigmon> see what I mean now??
[04:33] <littlebigmon> sorry I got logged off by mistake
[04:34] <littlebigmon> anyone??
[04:35] <Dr_willis_> I  would sya check the nimblx forums/docs/guides.. Im letting it generate a live cd for me now. :)
[04:38] <sentralpas> hello
[04:38] <Dr_willis_> looks like one copies the files from the cd to a hard drive, and use the from=/nimblex option.
[04:39] <sentralpas> *** hello
[04:39] <Dr_willis_> Howdy
[04:39] <sentralpas> *** fine
[04:40] <garym> hello
[04:41] <sentralpas> *** apakah ada yg bisa bantu saya
[04:42] <littlebigmon> thx dr willis I think I have solved my predicaments thank you very much
[04:43] <Daisuke-Laptop> !en | sentralpas
[04:43] <ubotu> sentralpas: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:43] <Daisuke-Laptop> i can usually figure out what language it is...  :\
[04:44] <littlebigmon> show off lol
[04:45] <Biggles> ugh lol this has to be the worst alptop design ever
[04:46] <Biggles> they put a vent on the bottom so when you have it on your lap it gets blocked and then it causes all of the fans to pick up and it turns into a blowdrier
[04:47] <Dr_willis_> Laptops are supposed to go on your lap?
[04:48] <Dr_willis_> That leads to toasty.. err...  .. i wont go there..
[04:48] <Dr_willis_> 'my laptop gives me a warm feeling'
[04:51] <Jucato> fried eggs.. sunny side up
[04:51] <Daisuke-Laptop> more like hard boiled :\
[04:51] <Jucato> :D
[04:51]  * Dr_willis_ recalls some hardware site with a video of them cooking a quail egg on a Very Hot CPU...
[04:52] <Dr_willis_> ages ago when  heat mattered. :) and people worried about it.
[04:52] <Dr_willis_> Now a days its all about FPS and EYECANDY!
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> so...  the P4?
[04:52] <cuznt> fps?
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> frames per second
[04:53] <cuznt> oh  ah duh
[04:53] <Jucato> (foot per shoe)
[04:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> i would certainly hope that that number isn't increasing rapidly, walking would become very difficult, very quick.
[04:54] <cuznt> faedriss peels shrimp
[04:55] <Dr_willis_> Frags per Second. :)
[04:58] <matt1727> is there a program that can play MP3 and M4A at the same time?? except audacious
[04:59] <w0nderbread> hi @ all
[05:00] <w0nderbread> anybody ever got an ati x1550 working with 3d accel. ? ive been working on it for 6 hours now :/
[05:01] <w0nderbread> allways getting black screen -.-
[05:02] <cuznt> what is the last thing you did?
[05:02] <cuznt> did you try to reconfigure the driver?
[05:02] <w0nderbread> sorry im an ati noob, only had nvidia sofar :/
[05:02] <w0nderbread> i tried with envy
[05:02] <w0nderbread> tried with apt-get
[05:03] <cuznt> no...
[05:03] <cuznt> restart
[05:03] <Dr_willis_> ati can be very much a gamble.
[05:03] <cuznt> when it starts to countdown to grub
[05:03] <cuznt> hit escape
[05:03] <cuznt> then choose recover
[05:03] <cuznt> recovery
[05:03] <w0nderbread> k hangon XD its not actually my computer (long distance girlfriend on the phone, rofl)
[05:04] <w0nderbread> k shes in recovery XD
[05:04] <cuznt> yer girlfrined
[05:04] <cuznt> yer in trubble misster
[05:04] <w0nderbread> XD
[05:04] <cuznt> xd?
[05:05] <w0nderbread> its a smiley :P
[05:05] <Biggles> how do i open domino?
[05:05] <cuznt> in the terminal or command prompt type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[05:05] <cuznt> that might help it auto
[05:06] <w0nderbread> k
[05:07] <Biggles> kcmshell style is supposed to open it but it only brings up the regular configure-kde control module
[05:09] <matt1728> how do i unmount a CD drive using root... it wont let me eject
[05:10] <MrJoey> matt1728> Type 'mount' to see which one it is (usually /dev/scd1 or so)
[05:10] <MrJoey> then umount /dev/scd1
[05:10] <MrJoey> If it says "Device or resource busy", close any shells that are open to that directory
[05:10] <MrJoey> that may involve leaving root telling the child shell to exit out
[05:11] <MrJoey> Once you've gotten umount to work without error messages, you can type eject /dev/scd1 to manually eject
[05:11] <matt1728> lol cool thanks
[05:11] <matt1728> is it "umount" or unmount?
[05:12] <MrJoey> umount
[05:12] <MrJoey> no 'n'
[05:12] <MrJoey> You should see no message on success
[05:13] <matt1728> got it thanks
[05:14] <matt1728> does anyone know of a program that plays back MP3 and M4a?
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> I made an alias called 'spit' that unmounts the cd, then uses the eject command to ejexct it. :)
[05:14] <MrJoey> matt1728> mplayer works great
[05:15] <matt1728> ahh does it have libraries or playlists?
[05:15] <MrJoey> To decode mp3 and m4a, you need technically patent-infringing though popular software to do it
[05:15] <MrJoey> mplayer is a straight command-line program
[05:15] <MrJoey> Others, such as amarok and totem, may have plugins for mp3/m4a
[05:16] <matt1728> amarok is xine and i was having trouble with it
[05:16] <MrJoey> but I personally think `mplayer *' is an adequate substitute for a playlist :)
[05:16] <w0nderbread> cuznt, still black screen :/
[05:16] <matt1728> im using appolo with wine
[05:17] <matt1728> MrJoey>so how would i play a song using mplayer
[05:17] <MrJoey> mplayer song.m4a
[05:17] <MrJoey> Then navigate with the arrows, raise/lower volume with * and /, pause with space
[05:18] <matt1728> do i have to be in the songs directory?
[05:18] <MrJoey> yes
[05:18] <MrJoey> Just launch it like you would launch a text editor
[05:18] <MrJoey> but you need to install it if you haven't :)
[05:19] <matt1728> im doing it right now
[05:19] <MrJoey> Although I'm playing m4a and mp3 in amaroK just fine
[05:19] <w0nderbread> amarok ftw ^^
[05:19] <matt1728> ahh please tell how =D
[05:20] <MrJoey> Probably because of amarok-xine
[05:20] <MrJoey> and libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:20] <matt1728> i have the xine engine in it
[05:20] <MrJoey> Try installing libxine1-ffmpeg so it can use ffmpeg
[05:20] <MrJoey> which is what mplayer also uses for mp3 :)
[05:20] <Jsn0327> does anyone have any experience with samba shares?
[05:20] <MrJoey> accessing or hosting?
[05:21] <Jsn0327> both
[05:21] <MrJoey> sorry, not really
[05:21] <Jsn0327> i setup the samba server and fuses i don't know how to add the shares
[05:22] <MrJoey> lol, I got this at an installation:
[05:22] <MrJoey> Recommended packages:
[05:22] <MrJoey>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad
[05:22] <matt1728> holy fuck it works
[05:22] <MrJoey> nice
[05:22] <stdin> !language | matt1728
[05:22] <ubotu> matt1728: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:22] <robersonfox> yeap
[05:22] <matt1728> thanks alot
[05:22] <robersonfox> i whant a bear
[05:22] <matt1728> now more windows programs
[05:22] <MrJoey> no problem
[05:23] <Saied> how can i connect to a vpn? i used kvpnc but it did not work
[05:23] <robersonfox> now
[05:23] <MrJoey> That's the goal :)
[05:24] <Jsn0327> !samba
[05:24] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:25] <matt1728> one more: can amarok update my ipod?
[05:25] <MrJoey> I don't think it can automatically, but Banshee might be able to
[05:26] <arunkale> hello all
[05:26] <MrJoey> Though an iPod can be accessed like a pen drive, so maybe you can just stick the files in there manually if you don't want to install Banshee
[05:26] <matt1728> yea but i dont think ill be able to play them if i just put them in
[05:26] <Jsn0327> !CFIS
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <matt1728> i did that before and they just disappear
[05:27] <MrJoey> oh
[05:27] <MrJoey> Maybe they have to be converted to m4a first?
[05:27] <MrJoey> Though that doesn't seem to make sense
[05:27] <Jsn0327> !cifs
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <matt1728> yea cause itunes updates mp3 and all that
[05:29] <robersonfox> i going drink some bear
[05:29] <robersonfox> bye my friends
[05:32] <matt1728> any recomandations on usefull applications?
[05:49] <bfrog> apt is good... but yeah, it still has its flaws :-/
[05:50] <Dr_willis_> everything has its flaws
[05:50] <Dr_willis_> ;)
[05:50] <arunkale> matt1728: i'd heard of this one app called gtkpod.. why don't you try searching on google
[05:51] <arunkale> hi Dr_willis_
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> Howdy
[05:53] <Jsn0327> I created a directory named Network and mounted my samba share to the directory, but when i try to cd to the directory it says permission denied
[05:53] <Jsn0327> i tried to change the owner of the directory to my username but it said that the device or resource is busy
[05:54] <matt1728> what is samba?
[05:55] <arunkale> !samba
[05:55] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:55] <Jsn0327> any ideas?
[05:56] <Biggles> how doi install a jar?
[05:56] <matt1728> what are you trying to do with samba
[05:56] <Jsn0327> I am trying to share my drives across 2 kunbutu computers
[05:57] <Jsn0327> but it is being a pain in the a$$!
[05:57] <Biggles> anyone?
[05:57] <Jsn0327> i can ping both boxes so i know that they are able to see each other
[05:57] <arunkale> Biggles: double click on it?
[05:57] <Jsn0327> i just don't see why linux has to be soo complicated about it
[05:57] <Biggles> it extracts
[05:57] <arunkale> have you checked out the right click menu?
[05:58] <arunkale> matt1728: http://howtoforge.com/linux_gtkpod_ipod
[05:58] <Biggles> nothing unless im supposed to open it with java
[05:58] <Jsn0327> i don't see why linux has to be soo complicated when it comes to sharing folders
[05:59] <matt1728> arunakle:thanks but im can i just log into to windows to manage it
[06:01] <Dr_willis_> Linux dosent 'share folders' samba is doing the shareing. :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis_> and  i find samba rather straight forwared. :)  the    The stuff samba is doing  has a lot of complexities. but simple shares are simple.
[06:01] <bfrog> Jsn0327: its not, use nfs
[06:02] <Dr_willis_> from a  Jubuntu to a Kubuntu box. (or any 2 linux box's) nfs will be faster
[06:02] <bfrog> and way simpler
[06:02] <Dr_willis_> I normally set up samba to share the users Homes dirs anyway..    the 2 linux box's can access each other that way also.
[06:02] <Dr_willis_> and the various fuse tools like fusesmb, or sshfs (fuse ssh) make  sharing also rather easy.
[06:03] <bfrog> I'm a nfs fan. fewest hassles, I edit a single text file on each computer, add 1line to each, done
[06:03]  * Dr_willis_ will admit he took the time and read the 'using samba book' thats in the samba-doc package.
[06:04] <bfrog> Dr_willis_: last I checked samba has its own userdb that maps to the system users
[06:04] <Dr_willis_> Was there ever a free nfs add on for windows xp/vista?  I havent looked for that in ages.
[06:04] <bfrog> annoys me
[06:04] <Dr_willis_> bfrog,  it can. :) I just setup users samba passwords, and so forth for my 2 users.
[06:04] <Dr_willis_> that keeps the kids off the samba shares.
[06:05] <Jsn0327> !nfs
[06:05] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:05] <Dr_willis_> I imagine samba can do things ive never even dreamed of. heh..  by the time i was to chapter 5 or so of that using samba book.  i could do all i needed.
[06:05] <charlie-jayne> Hello :)  Does someone in here have some to help me out a bit with Kubuntu Hardy?  I just installed it and my first herdale is getting tab completion to work
[06:06] <Dr_willis_> tab completion in the bash shell you mean?
[06:06] <bfrog> Dr_willis_: well you can setup a full nt 4 style domain if you want. and have pam authenticate to it.
[06:06] <bfrog> but its a real headache
[06:06] <charlie-jayne> Dr_willis_: in a terminal
[06:06] <charlie-jayne> ?
[06:06] <Dr_willis_> bfrog,  yep. that was proverly in the later chapters.. that i dident need to read. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis_> charlie-jayne,  terminal runs a shell. :)
[06:06] <bfrog> i used it as a print server at a previous job
[06:07] <Dr_willis_> bash name completion is a feature of the bash shell.
[06:07] <bfrog> the win2k box they had would crash daily from the enormous number of print jobs
[06:07] <Dr_willis_> charlie-jayne,  you may want to check #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <bfrog> samba ran on a box with a p2 300mhz and 256mb ram with the same load no problemo
[06:07] <Dr_willis_> charlie-jayne,  the feature is working here for me on my hardy box running kde.
[06:07] <bfrog> like 150 ppl printing huge jobs all day long
[06:08] <charlie-jayne> Dr_willis_: it's working now
[06:08] <charlie-jayne> I did echo $SHELL
[06:09] <charlie-jayne> Dr_willis_: actually, it's not working
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> i dident see how an echo command would 'fix' anything
[06:10] <charlie-jayne> it did and then I opened a new shell and then it did't
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> it works in one shell window but not the others?
[06:11] <Dr_willis_> try
[06:11] <Dr_willis_>  . /etc/bash_completion
[06:11] <charlie-jayne> okay
[06:12] <charlie-jayne> Dr_willis_: I get . /etc/bash_completion.d/
[06:12] <Dr_willis_> its amazing how complex some disrtos have bash completion setup
[06:12] <Dr_willis_> see if it works now..   i guess. :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis_> cd /e<tab>
[06:13] <Dr_willis_> actually that should work without any fancy stuff.
[06:14] <charlie-jayne> root@neat:~# cd /e<tab>
[06:14] <charlie-jayne> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[06:14] <charlie-jayne> root@neat:~#
[06:14] <Dr_willis_> You did HIT the TAB key? not entering <tab>
[06:15] <charlie-jayne> root@neat:/etc#
[06:15] <charlie-jayne> now what?
[06:15] <Dr_willis_> tab copletion is working...
[06:15] <Dr_willis_> how are you expecting it to work anyway?
[06:15] <Dr_willis_> that may be the issue.
[06:16] <Dr_willis_> cd /media <tab> <tab> shows all the /media dirs.,. for example..
[06:16] <Dr_willis_> thers more complex things it can do. but this is the basics of it.
[06:16] <charlie-jayne> er, stuff like sudo apt-get install ...
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> I do not think the tabcompletion package completes on packages....  or at least ive not noticed that.. lets try
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> actually it DOES...
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install syn<tab><tab>
[06:18] <Dr_willis_> shows me 21 packatge names..
[06:18] <charlie-jayne> I get nothing
[06:19] <Dr_willis_> if using Hardy, ask in #ubuntu+1, im testing this on Gusty box.
[06:19] <charlie-jayne> ooh
[06:20] <sundar_nagarajan> Dr_Willis: Do you have /etc/apt/sources.list setup correctly. It looks like TAb completion is indeed happening
[06:20] <Dr_willis_> Its possible theres  some extra bash completion packages to add all the features
[06:20] <charlie-jayne> thanks heaps Dr_willis_ :)
[06:20] <charlie-jayne> Dr_willis_: you rock!
[06:20] <Dr_willis_> sundar_nagarajan,  im assuming its correct. :) it works.
[06:20] <sundar_nagarajan> sorry - addressed to the wrong person :-(
[06:20] <Dr_willis_> heh heh. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis_> ive noticed gutsy is breaking up a lot of things into smaller packages and so forth. Its pobbible they got a tab completion lite/full
[06:22] <sundar_nagarajan> I'm just firing up gutsy under virtualbox. I run feisty still :-(
[06:22] <Dr_willis_> I got gutsy on this box..but using vista at the moment. :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis_> ssh'd to the other gutsy machines also.
[06:22] <Dr_willis_> and testing out mandriva on the laptop
[06:27] <sundar_nagarajan> I just tried on gutsy. By default /etc/bash.nashrc has the lines relating to bash_completion commented out (as in past releases). Once enabled, the apt-get install does completion perfectly - asked me whether I wanted to display all 2900+ possibilities
[06:28] <stdin> by default those lines are in ~/.bashrc so users can disable bash_completion if they want
[06:44] <user5> hi there
[06:44] <user5> some news ?
[06:46] <cannon> !compiz
[06:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:47] <Jsn0327> i'm getting this error
[06:48] <Jsn0327> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jason" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:48] <Jsn0327> how do i change it?
[06:49] <stdin> don't run GUI apps with sudo
[06:49] <stdin> use kdesu
[06:50] <Jsn0327> ok
[06:50] <Jsn0327> whats the difference?
[06:50] <stdin> !kdesu
[06:50] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[06:54] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[06:54] <cannon> hi
[06:54] <user5> ubotu: very cool you explication
[06:54] <cannon> explication?
[06:54] <cannon> is that a word? :P
[06:55] <user5> sorry I call from italy
[06:55] <user5> lol
[06:58] <Jsn0327> i still get the error owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0  can i use the change owner command for that?
[07:00] <user5> hi
[07:00] <stdin> Jsn0327: no, it should/needs/has to be owned by you (not root)
[07:01] <gamma9mu> use the -R switch on chown if the contents are also owned by 0
[07:02] <stdin> gamma9mu: none of it is owned by root, that's what the message says
[07:04] <josh__> is there a replacement command for gksudo for kde?  ( I think gksudo is Gnome... am I correct?)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> kdesu
[07:04] <stdin> kdesu or kdesudo
[07:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:04] <josh__> thanks very much
[07:04] <ForgeAus> erm replacement isn't the word I'd use but yeah
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Testing out some other disrtos.. and the 'no sudo' on some of them.. really cofuses things.. heh
[07:05] <ForgeAus> yeah DrWillis I find it weird in my Interix Gentoo overlay without a sudo
[07:05] <Dr_willis> testing out the mandriva live cd now on the laptop and a spre desktop box.
[07:05] <Dr_willis> It just seems WRONG that i am always having a spare terminal with  a root shell, laying around
[07:06] <gamma9mu> stdin: right, my fault
[07:06] <ForgeAus> lol DrWillis, I had a Mandriva LiveCD and it didn't even work on half the pc's I tried it on
[07:07] <ForgeAus> sofar everything I've put feisty in works out of the box
[07:07] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus:  oh? this one hs been decent on  the 2 machien ive tried.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I sort of like the metisse thing.. but its still a bit odd/unuseable in ways.
[07:07] <ForgeAus> yeah well having an ATI video card doesn't help with the metisse thing
[07:07] <Jsn0327> !beryl
[07:07] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[07:07] <Dr_willis> it ran sort of - on my x200m ati based laptop
[07:07] <Jsn0327> !compiz
[07:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:07] <Dr_willis> barely. :)
[07:07] <ForgeAus> made it unusably slow
[07:08] <Dr_willis> But i cant even get that thing to run compiz at all.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> I like the zoom feature.  :)
[07:08] <ForgeAus> :) I didn't get to try zooming
[07:09] <ForgeAus> KDE3+ compiz and/or KDE4 without it is comfortable and makes me happy
[07:09] <Dr_willis> now i have a mixed lan of 2 ubuntu box's and 2 mandriva machines.  - Noticing little dofferances and oddities every so often.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> Like right now. under the network:/// on the ubuntu box in gnome.. IM seeing a  'remote access on laptop' and a 'sftp transfer on laptop'  icons. for ONE of the mandriva machines..
[07:10] <Dr_willis> aha! the other mandriva machine just showed up there... heh
[07:10] <Dr_willis> Is that one of the zeroconf features?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> powering up the other ubuntu box to see if it shows up also.
[07:14] <Colonel_Panic> is there a log somewhere that will show all deleted files and directories?
[07:14] <Colonel_Panic> my eggdrop bot directory seems to be missing for some reason
[07:14] <Dr_willis> not really Colonel_Panic
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> it's weird
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> my computer lost power momentairly
[07:15] <Dr_willis> cound be the thing did a fsck and moved the dir to the lost+found
[07:15] <Colonel_Panic> I just rebooted and now my eggdrop bot directory seems to be gone
[07:16] <Jsn0327> !GNOME
[07:16] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:16] <Jsn0327> !gnoppix
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnoppix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu isent Knoppix. :)
[07:18] <Colonel_Panic> hmmm nothing in the lost & found
[07:18] <josh__> how would I go about setting vlc as default dvd player?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> use the configure konwueror -> fileextensions/types -> and whatever dvd is in there.. perhaps
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I think theres an autoplay setting also. that may be the proper place.
[07:20] <Colonel_Panic> if the eggdrop directory got deleted while the bot was runing, wouldn't it have thrown some kind of error message?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I rarely play actual dvd's
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Colonel_Panic:  depends on how well the bot is written i guess. :)
[07:21] <josh__> Dr_willis: Thanks... im following a script to enable proper video and sound playbacks which was written for Gnome, so i knew it would be different
[07:21] <Colonel_Panic> it's just a regular eggdrop bot
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> damn, this sucks
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> I don't really want to have to reconfigure the whole thing with all the scripts and everything
[07:23] <Dr_willis> do a updatedb, and use locate to search for the files..  it maybe they got tossedin the trashcan, or some how moved
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> two words: make backups!
[07:23] <Dr_willis> check in lost+found also
[07:23] <Dr_willis> could be the bot got -haxxored- but we have no proof of that.
[07:23] <Colonel_Panic> I seriously doubt that
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> Daisuke: yeah yeah yeah fat lot of good that does me now
[07:24] <Jsn0327> !vmware
[07:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> I don't understand where the directory could have gone to
[07:25] <Jsn0327> is there a good virtual machine for gusty?
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> how can I do a complete search of the root dir?
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> find?
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Jsn0327, vmware server or virtualbox
[07:26] <Colonel_Panic> find -name, righht?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Colonel_Panic:  find, or update the locate database and use locate
[07:26] <Dr_willis> ----------->   do a updatedb, and use locate to search for the files..  it maybe they got tossedin the trashcan, or some how moved
[07:27] <Jsn0327> is vmware player a virtual box?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> virtualbox is one virtual machine/program, vmware is another company/program
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I use both at times. :)
[07:28] <Jsn0327> lol
[07:28] <Dr_willis> I mainly use them to test out live cd  isos
[07:28] <Jsn0327> yeah thats what i'm getting it for
[07:29] <Dr_willis> ive had better luck with vmware on most of the live cd's ive tested
[07:29] <juan> hola
[07:29] <Dr_willis> virtualbox seems tobe getting better however
[07:29] <Jsn0327> is vmware free for linux?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> there are free versions of both utliies
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[07:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:30] <juan> alguien me puedo ayudar con los repositorios de kubuntu 64
[07:30] <Dr_willis> !virtualbox
[07:30] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[07:30] <juan> ??
[07:30] <Dr_willis> !es | juan
[07:30] <ubotu> juan: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:30] <juan> alguien me puede ayudar con los repositorios de kubuntu 64?
[07:30] <juan> alguien me puede ayudar con los repositorios de kubuntu 64?
[07:30] <juan> hola
[07:31] <Jsn0327> so there isn't a vmware compatible with gusty?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Jsn0327, i just told you, vmware server.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> I have vmware in gutsy.
[07:32] <Jsn0327> oh ok
[07:34] <josh__> Dr_willis: thanks for your help  :o)
[07:37] <Jsn0327> has anyone created a windows xp live cd iso for use in a virtualbox?
[07:38] <DreadKnight> windows xp live cd? xD
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> xp live...  ?
[07:38] <DreadKnight> hahahaha
[07:39] <DreadKnight> that made my day :>
[07:39] <Jsn0327> yeah it's easy to do with bartPE but i don't know about making an iso that the virtual box will run
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a virtual machine, why do you even need a live cd for that?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> there are xp live cd's - but well.. they are not legal :)
[07:41] <Jsn0327> because i can strip all of the BS out of it and make it a 100 meg live cd instead of a 1 gig virtual box and still have the apps that i need
[07:41] <Dr_willis> They work  quite well actually.
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> two words: persistent settings
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Jsn0327:  if you want a small windows install for vmware, you may want to try win95, but it depends on the apps you are using.
[07:42] <Dr_willis> there are xp 'cruft removal' tools out  to minimize your xp install.
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> smurfslover, your smurfing connection is smurfed.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !ohmy
[07:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:43] <smurfslover> i know
[07:43] <smurfslover> i was copyin some config files for kvirc from my main distro to kubuntu
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, you actually understood that.  i bow before you, god of all that is smurftacular
[07:44] <smurfslover> lol
[07:44] <smurfslover> i course i speak smurfs
[07:45] <smurfslover> i've been smurfing smurfs for smurfs
[07:45] <smurfslover> so i got really smurf in speaking smurf
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't believe you just said that O_O
[07:45] <smurfslover> :-p
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> watch your smurfing mouth!
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and now...
[07:45] <stdin> do I really need to say this is offtopic, or is that redundant
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !ot | Daisuke_Ido smurfslover
[07:45] <ubotu> Daisuke_Ido smurfslover: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin, was in the process
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> but it was really too good to pass up
[07:46] <Dr_willis> dont make me bring out some old smurf jokes...
[07:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:46] <smurfslover> i'm trying to get the side buttons of my mx1000 working with edgy
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, people are still using edgy?
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you know that EOLs in like...  a month
[07:47] <Dr_willis> smurfslover:  i found some gentoo wiki pages - that often have that topic covered in detail. Not looked recently, there may be some more speciifc ubuntu pages out now.
[07:47] <smurfslover> edgy is the latest stable i believe
[07:47] <smurfslover> i found some howto' but none work for edgy
[07:47]  * Dr_willis goes back to Achy Amoeba
[07:47] <Dr_willis> i wouldent think the release would matter that much.
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> this is the problem with codenames
[07:48] <smurfslover> problem is if i follow the howto x won't start anymore
[07:48] <smurfslover> and they require to have my mouse connected by usb
[07:48] <Dr_willis> How is that mouse connected anyway?
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, there have been some pretty substantial changes in the xserver since edgy, haven't there?
[07:48] <smurfslover> ps2
[07:49] <Dr_willis> you are not using a ps2-usb dongle thing are you?
[07:49] <smurfslover> so for the mx3100 keyboard
[07:49] <smurfslover> yes
[07:49] <Dr_willis> egads...
[07:49] <smurfslover> but when i connect the keyboard by usb i can't get keytouch to work
[07:49] <Dr_willis> :) that may disable the extra buttons... not sure on that..
[07:49] <Dr_willis> You dont have any spare usb ports at all?
[07:50] <smurfslover> yes i have but i can't use the extra buttons on the keyboard when it's connected by usb
[07:50] <Dr_willis> smurfslover:  hmm.. you are saying the extra buttons on the mouse, conflct with the extra buttons on the keyboard?
[07:50] <smurfslover> not really
[07:50]  * Dr_willis is lost then.
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:51] <smurfslover> but for the extra buttons on the mouse i need to connect it by usb
[07:51] <smurfslover> but in order to get keytouch working for the extra keys on the keyboard it has to be connected by ps2
[07:51] <smurfslover> in pclinuxos all works out-of-the-box but they're using imwheel for the mouse buttons
[07:52] <smurfslover> not evdev
[07:53] <smurfslover> so i'm getting confused now
[07:53] <smurfslover> think i will have to do without the side buttons on my mouse for now
[07:53] <smurfslover> have to look for some extra docu
[07:54] <smurfslover> i'll be back later with it, maybe i can make a howto afterwards :)
[07:54] <smurfslover> cu and thx for helping
[08:00] <dueperdue> hi
[08:01] <dueperdue> there is OperaTor for kubuntu?
[08:05] <Jsn0327> !ndiswrapper
[08:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:15] <Respatix> anyone know what a good program in kde to handle remerging rar files for movie files?  I tried using ark and it choked
[08:16] <Dr_willis> merging? why do you need to merge rar files?
[08:17] <Dr_willis> unrar whatever.r00     will look for 01 and 02 and so forth when it extracts them
[08:17] <Dr_willis> oops.  unrar e whatever.r00
[08:21] <keeper> I'm having a problem similar to this, http://www.xvpj.net/?p=46
[08:22] <LimCore> how to report bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ page?
[08:24] <keeper> also, it seems as though a few other people have had the same problem
[08:24] <sMonk> Hello, I can't seem to access my System Settings --> User Management, it just tells me that "The modual User management could not be loaded"
[08:25] <Respatix> Dr_willis: no i mean i have a folder with 50 rar files r0, r01 etc that need to be one avi file.  I could not extract with ark.   what can i use?
[08:26] <sMonk> I should tell you that I'm running KDE 3.5.8 on Kubuntu 7.10
[08:27] <gamma9mu> unrar (in multiverse) or unrar-free (in universe)
[08:28] <Respatix> gamma9mu: so i type "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[08:29] <keeper> it seems as if the problem is caused by kernel updates
[08:29] <JanMalte> where can i set where my emails should be stored?
[08:31] <Respatix> gamma9mu: ok installed it lets try it
[08:31] <gamma9mu> Respatix: yeah
[08:31] <sMonk> any one have any ideas?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  they should be a avi?  they are missnamed? or does the split rar contain the parts of a .avi file?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  if they are missnamed  you can cat them together.
[08:32] <toyo|desk> hey guys
[08:32] <Dr_willis> file whatever.r00   ----------> to see wht the files actully are
[08:33] <toyo|desk> I just installed the latest ATI drivers off their site and when I play full screen games now the lower half of my screen turns white
[08:33] <toyo|desk> dose anyone know about this or how to fix it
[08:35] <Respatix> Dr_willis: yes the part of a file
[08:35] <Respatix> avi file
[08:35] <Respatix> i think its working now
[08:35] <Respatix> that i downloaded unrar
[08:35] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  someone really messed them up eh?
[08:36] <Respatix> no this is how they always are.  i use winrar when im doing it in windows
[08:36] <Respatix> just that ark cant handle them w/o unrar
[08:37] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  somthings totally messed then.
[08:37] <JanMalte> where can i set where my emails should be stored?
[08:37] <Respatix> 50 rar peices combine to 1 avi
[08:37] <Dr_willis> I get videos that are in whatever.r00 and r01 and so forth and i just do a 'unrar e whatever.r00' on linux and it extracts them fine
[08:37] <gamma9mu> Respatix:  problem solved, then?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> i NEVER needed to cat them together first.
[08:37] <Respatix> yes
[08:38] <gamma9mu> awesome.  that's my first successful help for someone else!
[08:38] <Dr_willis> but 'file' would show them as being a rar archive.
[08:38] <Respatix> no you misunderstood or i miscommunicated more likely
[08:38] <Dr_willis> ark does need the rar/unrar package installed also. :) but i never use ark
[08:38] <Respatix> i wasnt using right terminology
[08:38] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[08:38] <ubotu> unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[08:38] <Dr_willis> unp whateverarchiveitis.whatever
[08:38] <Dr_willis> and it gets it right most of the time. :)
[08:39] <gamma9mu> Dr_willis: i think the problem was Ark not being able to handle RARs, but when unrar was installed it works
[08:39]  * Dr_willis poopoos on ark. 
[08:39] <Dr_willis> the shell is the power!
[08:39] <Respatix> not following drwillis
[08:39] <Respatix> what do you use
[08:39] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  you dont need to use ark at all..
[08:39] <Dr_willis> as i said. I use the unrar command, or the 'unp' command.
[08:40] <Respatix> ok step by step whats my other option
[08:40] <gamma9mu> tar -xvf is my friend
[08:40] <Dr_willis> for the 8th time...
[08:40] <Dr_willis> unrar e whatever.r00
[08:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:40] <Dr_willis> if you have unrar installed.
[08:40] <Respatix> sorry im slow
[08:40] <Dr_willis> thats all ark is doing i imagine..  its just a front end to the otehr tool
[08:41] <Respatix> my terminaleese is a bit week
[08:41] <Dr_willis> i get 'series' that each ep. is in its own dir. and each dir has its own set of 30+ rar.r00 files.. so i have to cd to each dir and unrar it..
[08:41] <Dr_willis> i wrote a script to do it all.
[08:41] <Respatix> nice
[08:41]  * Dr_willis leaves that as a homework assignment.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:43] <Respatix> that wont be happening till i attend linux school for another year.  didnt you know im still in linux kindergarten and we dont get homework yet :)
[08:43] <sMonk> Hello, I need some help, I can't access my User Management in KDE 3.5.8 on my Gutsy system. I goto system settings --> user manage ment, and it gives me an error "the module user management could not be loaded
[08:43] <Dr_willis> Get some books.. start reading. :)
[08:43] <gamma9mu> sMonk: is kuser installed?
[08:44] <Respatix> What book would you suggest. I do like to read.
[08:44] <sMonk> I used it a few weeks ago, I'd hope it was
[08:44] <gamma9mu> check?
[08:44] <sMonk> sorry how?
[08:44] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  depends on what you want to learn. :) thers tons of books out there...
[08:44] <Dr_willis> Respatix:   'using bash' by Orealy is a must get .. some time.
[08:44] <gamma9mu> which kuser
[08:44] <FSHero> Hello Everyone, I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 amd64, and am trying to get the scanner of my Epson Stylus DX7400 to work.
[08:45] <FSHero> How do I get it working with the epkowa backend, as I've heard the suggestion to be?
[08:45] <gamma9mu> sorry, type `which kuser`
[08:45] <sMonk> in what?
[08:45] <Respatix> Dr_willis: and in laymans terms in a nutshell what would i being using bash for?
[08:45] <gamma9mu> in a console.  use konsole or xterm
[08:46] <FSHero> I tried the instructions on post #9 of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631781&highlight=Stylus+DX7400
[08:46] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  how else ya going to extract 100000 tv epsoides from 10000 directories.. with one command. :)
[08:46] <sMonk> "/usr/bin/kuser
[08:47] <gamma9mu> hmmm...
[08:47] <Dr_willis> Respatix:  some tasks are just much esaier in the shell.
[08:47] <Respatix> so using bash is how to write scripts to do what you described that would be handy
[08:48] <gamma9mu> sMonk: sorry  type `which userconfig`
[08:48] <keeper> does anyone know if a bug has been reported for the update manager saying there is a new release, when running 7.10 ?
[08:48] <sMonk> "/usr/bin/userconfig
[08:48] <Respatix> as it is a pain to individually extract each movie.  it would be nice if it was all done automatically
[08:49] <sMonk> see I'm trying to get USB to work in VirtualBox, so I can update my GPS. They say I should add myself to "usbfs" user group
[08:51] <gamma9mu> let me check into this for a few minutes.  in the meantime, a quick fix is `kdesudo userconfig`
[08:52] <SPiRiTCoRE> Hi!
[08:52] <SPiRiTCoRE> I have a question
[08:53] <sMonk> ok, there is no USBFS user group
[08:53] <gamma9mu> 1 second...
[08:55] <SPiRiTCoRE> ?
[08:56] <gamma9mu> ok, as for the module problem try reinstalling the kde-guidance package
[08:56] <gamma9mu> i'm looking into the groups
[08:57] <alex_kubuntu> jh
[08:57] <alex_kubuntu> есть ктото рускоязычный
[08:58] <gamma9mu> sMonk: i'm not very familiar with virtualbox, but your VM is allowed access to the hardware, right?
[08:59] <mithraic> I realize this is the hardest kind of problem to diagnose, but what should my steps be if selecting "left on top" screen rotation locks up my system?
[08:59] <mithraic> This is via the "Monitor & Display" control panel in System Settings.
[09:00] <sMonk> should be
[09:02] <gamma9mu> are you in the group plugdev?
[09:02] <gamma9mu> i think that's equivalent
[09:03] <sMonk> yes
[09:04] <sMonk> I'll leave it for now.. it's 5am here, and I need some sleep to think
[09:04] <jpatrick> !ru | alex_kubuntu
[09:04] <ubotu> alex_kubuntu: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:04] <sMonk> it's not that important
[09:05] <gamma9mu> alright.  good luck.  i just grabbed virtualbox an hour ago.  maybe i can help a bit later
[09:05] <gamma9mu> good night
[09:05] <sMonk> i'll check in later. night
[09:10] <SPiRiTCoRE> ?
[09:13] <SPiRiTCoRE> some one
[09:13] <keeper> here's the bug for the new distibution problem, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/154771
[09:18] <SPiRiTCoRE> i need help
[09:18] <nKs`FrosT> me too
[09:19] <keeper> what's the problem ?
[09:19] <mithraic> Okay, so xrandr --orientation left locks up.
[09:22] <SPiRiTCoRE> i have win xp and i want to run kubuntu with virtualbox is it possible?
[09:26] <Y-Town> I did a system update and once completed my X quit working because of and issue with nvidia.  Can someone tell me how to redo x windows?
[09:35] <Dr_willis> reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[09:36] <Dr_willis> woule be the first step.
[09:36] <mithraic> I've inherited a random box -- it has an ATI card, but I don't know which. Is there a simple tool that can tell me?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> mithraic:  lspci
[09:37] <mithraic> Lovely, thanks.
[09:44] <Y-Town> Dr_willis: thanks.. I didnt see your post I was working on it
[09:46] <lachlan> hello im using Kword can somebody please tell me how to turn over mode off i just turnt it on by accident
[09:47] <Dr_willis> overmode?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> overstrike/insert?  Hit the Insert key. :)
[09:48] <lachlan> ahh thanks you saved my essay
[09:48] <Dr_willis> no one ever knows what the Insert key actually does... :)
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Notice the cursor change from a line to a block?
[09:52] <Y-Town> Dr_willis: It appears the system update I did also took out my sound.  Do you know how to rebuild the sound?
[10:07] <cannon> whats a nice looking media player for ubuntu?
[10:09] <jussi01> cannon: define nicelooking
[10:09] <jussi01> cannon: mplayer has some nice skins
[10:09]  * jussi01 likes it
[10:10] <cannon> can i dcc you a screenie of it pls jussi01?
[10:10] <jussi01> cannon: imagebin.ca
[10:10] <jussi01> :)
[10:12] <cannon> k
[10:12] <cannon> woot, i don't have to register to upload a pic! :P
[10:13] <cannon> http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm9AmrZl.html
[10:13] <cannon> there ya go jussi01
[10:14] <cannon> i like the look of it
[10:14] <cannon> and it clearly shows genre, artist, album, etc
[10:14] <cannon> thats what i'm used to with winamp
[10:15] <jussi01> cannon: do you not like amarok?
[10:15] <cannon> nup
[10:15] <dot> Hi, the update icon apeared on the menu on a fresh install, so i started updating it, except that around halfway through it froze up so i had to restart. Then i kept getting an error 15 message in grub, so i renamed the image in grub to the image on the computer, but now it says there is nothing to update
[10:16] <cannon> hey dot
[10:16] <cannon> i know a good solution
[10:16] <cannon> when ya first install
[10:16] <cannon> change your package manager from adept to Synaptic
[10:17] <cannon> i have found that Synaptic doesn't fail at all
[10:17] <cannon> and it prompts you if there are any issues
[10:17] <jussi01> cannon: also, that player there is banshee i think
[10:17] <dot> Thanks, but that's hardly a solution
[10:17] <cannon> woot, thanks
[10:17] <cannon> i'll check it out
[10:17] <jussi01> or maybe no... hmm
[10:17] <jussi01> hang on
[10:17] <cannon> k
[10:18] <sureshot> i installed the g++ compiler what directory did it go to
[10:19] <sureshot> well the make file anyway
[10:19] <dot> also when i tried running adept it said there was another program running and if i wanted it to solve the problem, which always just resulted in the program crashing if i said yes
[10:19] <jussi01> sureshot: it should be in your path, meaning you can call it from anywhere
[10:20] <jussi01> sureshot: exactly what are you attempting?
[10:20] <sureshot> ok thanks
[10:20] <jussi01> !compile | sureshot
[10:20] <ubotu> sureshot: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:20] <dot> so i ran dpkg-configure -a and now that problem seems to have gone away, though there still isn't anything to be updated
[10:20] <jussi01> cannon: it might be rhtymbox
[10:20] <sureshot> ok thanks
[10:21] <jussi01> sureshot: I would recmoned install the package build-essential
[10:21] <sureshot> thanks i will do that
[10:22] <cannon> hmm, how do you spell it jussi01? lol
[10:22] <jussi01> rhythmbox sorry
[10:22] <jussi01> :P
[10:22] <cannon> lol
[10:24] <cannon> not the one but much better than amarok
[10:24] <jussi01> cannon: Im am an idiot...lol
[10:24] <jussi01> !players
[10:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[10:24] <jussi01> that one is quod libet
[10:24] <jussi01> as the title says lol
[10:24] <identityowl> Can anybosy tell me why my apt-get install is not working at all
[10:24] <identityowl> ?
[10:24] <cannon> lol, who told you you was an idiot?
[10:25] <cannon> is it locked identityowl?
[10:25] <identityowl> what do you mean by locked?
[10:25] <cannon> maybe you already have a package manager open?
[10:25] <jussi01> identityowl: please pastebin your error
[10:25] <identityowl> no ive closed it and i also cant install the armork mp3 plug in
[10:26] <cannon> hmmmm?
[10:26] <jussi01> identityowl: do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:26] <jussi01> then pastebin whatever it gives you
[10:26] <jussi01> !paste
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:27] <jpatrick> !aptfix | identityowl
[10:27] <ubotu> identityowl: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:28] <jussi01> identityowl: seems its working correctly
[10:28] <jussi01> identityowl: have yo tried mp3's in amarok now?
[10:29] <identityowl> trying now
[10:29] <identityowl> it still says in need to install the pulg in
[10:30] <identityowl> OMG its working now
[10:30] <identityowl> thank you very much
[10:30] <cannon> lol
[10:30] <cannon> can't live without music :P
[10:30] <identityowl> yep yep
[10:30] <jussi01> :D
[10:32] <identityowl> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.                ........hu?
[10:33] <jussi01> identityowl: which version of kubuntu are you running?
[10:33] <identityowl> 7.10
[10:33] <jussi01> identityowl: in terminal, please do: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:37] <jussi01> identityowl: do you have extra repos enabled? backports, proposed etc?
[10:37] <identityowl> ...um
[10:38] <jussi01> identityowl: go to system -> adept, then adept menu, and manage repositories
[10:38] <mithraic> Hmm, trying to set up the ATI drivers following these instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[10:39] <mithraic> But when I go to the Restricted Drivers Manager, I don't have any ATI accelerated graphics driver option.
[10:39] <identityowl> k there
[10:39] <jussi01> mithraic: which ati card
[10:39] <mithraic> 9200 series
[10:39] <jussi01> identityowl: are all the boxes checked?
[10:39] <jussi01> mithraic: you dont need those drivers
[10:40] <identityowl> in "kubuntu Software"?
[10:40] <jussi01> identityowl: yes
[10:40] <mithraic> I was just hoping that using the new drivers might let me rotate the screen without locking up the system...
[10:40] <identityowl> no just the second one it
[10:40] <jussi01> mithraic: the 9200 uses the open source drivers
[10:40] <identityowl> is*
[10:40] <jussi01> mithraic: I have a 9250, I should know :D
[10:40] <mithraic> ok, thanks jussi01.
[10:40] <jonathan_> gjkd
[10:41] <jonathan_> qu'est ce que c'est que ce truc ?
[10:41] <jussi01> identityowl: now look at the third party tab
[10:41] <jussi01> !fr | jonathan_
[10:41] <ubotu> jonathan_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:41] <jonathan_> ?
[10:41] <identityowl> k just the first one is checked
[10:41] <jussi01> jonathan_: only english in here
[10:41] <jussi01> identityowl: yeah, what is that one?
[10:41] <mithraic> And you can do an xrandr -o left?
[10:41] <jonathan_> is there a french one
[10:42] <jonathan_> ?
[10:42] <jussi01> jonathan_: #kubuntu-fr
[10:42] <jussi01> jonathan_: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[10:42] <jonathan_> ok thanks
[10:43] <identityowl> cdrom;[Kubuntu 7.10_Gutsy Gibbon_-Release i386 (20031016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
[10:45] <identityowl> ?
[10:46] <mithraic> Can my 9200 support xgl with composite enabled (for compiz?)
[10:49] <jussi01> mithraic: yes
[10:49] <jussi01> mithraic: no
[10:49] <jussi01> hang on, it doesnt need xgl
[10:49]  * jussi01 is reading badly
[10:50] <jussi01> mithraic: it works fine with compiz
[10:50] <identityowl> cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10_Gutsy Gibbon_-Release i386 (20031016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted                          it the first one in my list and the only one checked jussi01
[10:50] <identityowl> is*
[11:02] <niko_> hi all
[11:05] <jpatrick> hi niko_
[11:16] <jussi01> identityowl: hi
[11:16] <jussi01> sorry, was making an omelatte
[11:17] <identityowl> k
[11:17] <jussi01> identityowl: /away
[11:17] <jussi01> grrr
[11:17] <jussi01> sorry
[11:17] <identityowl> ?
[11:17] <identityowl> ah
[11:18] <identityowl> its ok
[11:18] <jussi01> identityowl: ok, so when you update it breaks?
[11:19] <identityowl> i when to update my armorok to install the mp3 plugin and it starts but then stops saying...
[11:19] <identityowl> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[11:19] <jpatrick> identityowl: apt-get install -f
[11:20]  * jussi01 is trying to eat breakfast, so lets jpatrick have tis one
[11:20] <identityowl> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:21] <jpatrick> jussi01: damn you, /me hardly got any breakfast
[11:21] <jussi01> jpatrick: I made too much for me, you are welcome to drop by :P
[11:22] <jpatrick> I'll remember that jussi01
[11:26] <jussi01> someone remind me of a sample command to mount an iso?
[11:26] <jpatrick> mount -f iso .iso /place
[11:27] <jpatrick> mount -t iso9660
[11:27] <jussi01> jpatrick: what is -f ?
[11:27] <jpatrick> jussi01: should be -t
[11:28] <jussi01> aye
[11:28] <jussi01> jpatrick: do I need root for mounting?
[11:29]  * jussi01 's brain doesnt work anymore
[11:29] <jpatrick> jussi01: if you don't have access to mount point
[11:29] <jpatrick> jussi01: too much omlette
[11:29] <jussi01> jpatrick: lol, true
[11:35] <LimCore> anyone have openoffice?
[11:35] <jussi01> LimCore: pretty much everyone...
[11:36] <jussi01> !anyone | LimCore
[11:36] <ubotu> LimCore: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:36] <LimCore> ok, and nyone have also amd64 ? and prefferably nvidia card
[11:37] <LimCore> because I need someone to help me verify bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[11:37] <jussi01> bug 190680
[11:38] <jussi01> hrmm
[11:38] <flipstar> !bug 190680
[11:38] <jussi01> !test
[11:38] <ubotu> Failed.
[11:39] <LimCore> !help bug
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help bug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <jussi01> LimCore: wait a moment please
[11:39] <LimCore> ok
[11:40] <ubuntu> i need help :'(
[11:40] <jussi01> !ask | ubuntu
[11:40] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:40] <amigo> Hi ppl! How to make shared directory for local users?
[11:40] <ubuntu> am running off the disc because it said that no image was found?
[11:40] <ubuntu> i really hope I don't have to re-install again
[11:40] <jussi01> ubuntu: what did you do just before this happened?
[11:40] <flipstar> grub said this ?
[11:40] <ubuntu> just a reboot
[11:41] <ubuntu> i had issues with music playing but no audio
[11:41] <ubuntu> so I was hoping a reboot would help
[11:41] <jussi01> ubuntu: try a grub reinstall:
[11:41] <jussi01> !grub
[11:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:42] <jpatrick> bug #1
[11:42] <flipstar> LimCore: you might try to change the theme
[11:43] <flipstar> bug #1 is great :)
[11:43] <jussi01> LimCore: I would agree with flipstar
[11:43] <LimCore> flipstar: I just did
[11:43]  * LimCore adds note
[11:43] <jussi01> LimCore: you using compiz?
[11:44] <LimCore> jussi01: no
[11:44] <LimCore> jussi01: you test on amd64 with nvidia?
[11:44] <LimCore> perhaps its nvidia problem
[11:44] <jussi01> LimCore: no, I dont have amd64
[11:46] <ubuntu> hey jussi01
[11:46] <ubuntu> am getting errors
[11:47] <flipstar> errors..
[11:47] <ubuntu> am getting no such file or directory after typing ... find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:48] <jussi01> ubuntu: are you in the grub console?
[11:49] <ubuntu> oops, i think I dropped out of it
[11:49] <dani_> Ciao
[11:50] <jussi01> !it | dani_
[11:50] <ubotu> dani_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:50] <dani_> ooppsss !!!! ciao
[11:51] <manuel__> a
[11:53] <ubuntu> hey jussi01 ... <tab> = hit the Tab key : This will return your root partition, something like root (hd0,1). Hit the <Enter> key and continue. <<< that just gives me a list of commands
[11:53] <ubuntu> not the location of root
[11:53] <ubuntu> oh wait
[11:54] <flipstar> on which disc and partition is you root ?
[11:54] <ubuntu> my sata
[11:55] <flipstar> so the first disc ? and which partition ?
[11:55] <ubuntu> find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:55] <ubuntu> i typed that
[11:55] <ubuntu> and just got 2) on the next line
[11:57] <flipstar> you can copy all stage files to /boot/grub on your disc
[11:57] <ubuntu> lol, i have no idea where that sghould be though
[11:57] <flipstar> isnt this described in the tutorial ?
[11:58] <ubuntu> i do recall it being installed on sda3
[11:58] <ubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:58] <ubuntu> am typing what it suggests in the tut
[11:58] <ubuntu> but not getting anywhere
[11:59] <ubuntu> grub> setup (hd0)
[11:59] <ubuntu>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
[11:59] <ubuntu>  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
[11:59] <ubuntu> grub> 15: File not found
[12:00] <ubuntu> thats the error am getting
[12:00] <flipstar> maybe your disc need to be mounted to access files on it
[12:01] <ubuntu> how?
[12:01] <flipstar> systemsetting->advanced>disc
[12:10] <jim> Hey every1 just wondering when i try and excecute a *.exe program it attempts to run it but all the words are in computer language ! what am i doing wrong ?
[12:10] <jim> this is through wine
[12:13] <matisse> hello
[12:14] <jim> hello
[12:14] <matisse> The ubuntu-docs update froze. What should I do ?
[12:14] <jim> i am waiting patiently hoping someone will help :)
[12:14] <matisse> well, waiting helped...
[12:14] <matisse> now it's ready.
[12:14] <matisse> thats confusing...
[12:15] <jim> hmm
[12:15] <jim> mabie no one is here
[12:15] <flipstar> jim: did you open the .exe with wine or a text editor ?
[12:15] <jpatrick> !weekend > jim (:()
[12:15] <jim> its almost 1130 every1 might be going to sleep
[12:15] <flipstar> try right click open with wine
[12:15] <jim> Hey
[12:16] <jim> Umm Wine opens it automaticly
[12:16] <jim> for example the insallation box comes up and instead if it saying install its in computer lingo
[12:17] <flipstar> like 01010000100 ?
[12:17] <jim> no not like that
[12:18] <jim> funnny letters and squiggles
[12:18] <flipstar> but other .exe's are working ?
[12:18] <jim> no
[12:18] <jim> never
[12:19] <flipstar> just try a newer wine version from winehq..maybe it helps
[12:19] <jim> umm ok
[12:19] <jim> is there  a way to automaticly update it  ?
[12:24] <flithm> hey everyone... anyone know how to get kde4 to show thumbnails / previews for pdf files?
[12:24] <flipstar> try in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:25] <flithm> flipstar: thanks
[12:33] <Psycoshot> Hey, I have a usb flah drive, when I plug it in, I get asked what I want to do. I click open in new window but no windows opens. Nothing is in /media
[12:37] <Psycoshot> !usb
[12:37] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:37] <Psycoshot> !flashdrive
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Psycoshot> Holy shit. I can install ubuntu ON a flshdrive....
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Psycoshot:  yes, Pendrivelinux.com has some extra info also.
[12:41] <Psycoshot> Thanks
[12:41] <Dr_willis> I dident say it was EASY :) heh heh
[12:41] <Dr_willis> and thers lots of little things that can go wrong.
[12:41] <Psycoshot> Dr_willis: But right now I'm focusing more on getting the USB recognized XD
[12:42] <Psycoshot> lol Ok.
[12:42] <Dr_willis> You can always just mount the thing manually
[12:42] <Psycoshot> How would I go about doing that
[12:43] <cannon> hi all
[12:44] <Psycoshot> Dr_willis: nvm found a page
[12:45] <Dr_willis> mount command with the proper optuons :)
[12:46] <cuznt> sounds very sexual
[12:46] <Dr_willis> THe auto mounting stuff is great.. untill it breaks
[12:46] <Psycoshot> XD
[12:46] <Dr_willis> Then its back to the old ways.. :)
[12:47] <Psycoshot> :P
[12:47] <Psycoshot> Poor noobie me. XD
[12:47] <Dr_willis> How to mouunt filesystems, and the use of fstab, and so forth. are good skills to have.
[12:47] <jim> and me
[12:47] <Psycoshot> I've noticed.
[12:47] <Dr_willis> 'Skills to have to rescue systems, and fix things;
[12:48] <Dr_willis> :) Mounting filesystems manually is in the top 10.
[12:48] <Psycoshot> Nice.
[12:48] <Psycoshot> haha
[12:48] <Psycoshot> Also, I've had problems trying to get fiesty.
[12:48] <Psycoshot> From adapt, Full upgrade>
[12:49] <Psycoshot> Ill run it again and see what the error message is.
[12:49] <flipstar> is there a way to run a second kdm instance? for choosing another x session
[12:51] <hele> Any good replacer for win software like cpu-z ? i want see etc memory frequency and divider.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> flipstar:  there is.. I just donr rember how. :)
[12:52] <flipstar> ¦ /
[12:52] <Dr_willis> flipstar:  you can have more then 1 X server going on other consoles. alt-ctrl-f8 and so forth..
[12:52] <Dr_willis> sudo X :2  or somthing like that...
[12:52] <Dr_willis> google for spawning a 2nd X session..
[12:52] <flipstar> yes..but im trying to run x not as root..
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Root is needed to run kdm, I do belive.   since its a service
[12:53] <llutz> startx -- :1
[12:54] <Dr_willis> that may work. :)
[12:54] <flipstar> startx=X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting
[12:54] <flipstar> Dr_willis: yes..sure but i thougt kdm may not start X as root
[12:55] <Dr_willis> kdm spawns the X for the user i guess. :)
[12:55] <Psycoshot> the problem to manual monting is I need to know the directory of the device :S
[12:55] <Dr_willis> ages ag i had 3 x sessions strting at every boot :) i forget why..
[12:55] <Dr_willis> Psycoshot:  you mean the device name? try 'dmesg'
[12:55] <flipstar> Psycoshot: try with sudo fdisk -l
[12:56] <Psycoshot> wait lol WHen my computer recognizes my usb drive, it's called patriot (after the brand lol)
[12:56] <llutz> flipstar: "startx -- :1" in a tty, not inside running X-session
[12:57] <Dr_willis> Psycoshot:  the auto mouting stuff often mounts based on the drive label.
[12:57] <Dr_willis> llutz:  Oh yea          :) good point
[12:57] <flipstar> llutz: oh..make sence
[12:57] <Psycoshot> ok
[12:57] <llutz> works perfect here
[13:01] <Psycoshot> "Some Linux operating system even can auto-mount the USB drives, especially if you’re using Gnome and KDE." WHY?!?! T.T
[13:02] <tekteen> Psycoshot: is that a question?
[13:03] <Psycoshot> No. I just can't get my usb DETECTED xd'
[13:03] <Psycoshot> caps*
[13:04] <cannon> hey
[13:04] <Psycoshot> What do I add for a final new line in etc/fstab
[13:04] <cannon> i appear to have lost my restricted driver thingie
[13:04] <Psycoshot> after /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB auto noauto,owner,kuzu 0 0
[13:04] <cannon> how do I install it?
[13:17] <tekteen> cannon: you still here?
[13:18] <ubuntu> i am new
[13:18] <tekteen> Hi new
[13:18] <tekteen> :-)
[13:19] <ubuntu> hi
[13:19] <ubuntu> my name is andres
[13:19] <ubuntu> and you
[13:20] <tekteen> tekteen :-)
[13:22] <ubuntu> you are linux user??
[13:22] <tekteen> yes
[13:23] <tekteen> I have been using linux since I was 8 :-D
[13:23] <ubuntu> ok
[13:23] <ubuntu> i am using linux ubuntu
[13:23] <brenman> Hallo, spricht jemand deutsch?
[13:24] <tekteen> !de
[13:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:24] <brenman> Danke
[13:25] <tekteen> ubuntu: most people just call it ubuntu
[13:26] <synteth> hi
[13:26] <synteth> my windows just got bugged
[13:26] <tekteen> hi
[13:26] <synteth> it doesnt show me the minimize, close or maximize
[13:27] <synteth> hello can you help me?
[13:27] <tekteen> are you using hardy? kde4?
[13:27] <tekteen> or kde3 gutsy
[13:28] <synteth> i'm using gutsy
[13:28] <tekteen> ok
[13:28] <synteth> i've installed linux two days ago
[13:28] <synteth> and sometimes shows me that bug
[13:28] <tekteen> synteth: if you restart does it go away
[13:29] <synteth> yes
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:29] <tekteen> BluesKaj: Howdy
[13:29] <synteth> but
[13:29] <synteth> i want to correct it
[13:30] <dueperdue> hi
[13:30] <synteth> not restart it everytime it happens
[13:30] <tekteen> BluesKaj: you know anything about a bug when you minimize, close, or maximize a window
[13:30] <dueperdue> I have a problem
[13:30] <synteth> you cannot see the bar
[13:30] <tekteen> BluesKaj: synteth is having the problem
[13:30] <tekteen> !ask|dueperdue
[13:30] <ubotu> dueperdue: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:31] <dueperdue> ok
[13:32] <synteth> can someone help me?
[13:32] <Mamarok> Riddell: ping
[13:32] <dueperdue> with kubuntu I didn't now why but I can't hear the sounds of my films/video
[13:32] <tekteen> !sound
[13:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:34] <Stew2> Hey, I just got kubuntu alternate daily installed.
[13:34] <jpatrick> !weekend > Mamarok
[13:34] <dueperdue> ok, now i'm look to this page...
[13:35] <Stew2> i have a lenovo 3000n200. When I use the RDP client installed, its sending the wrong keystrokes to my XP desktop.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> synteth, just arrived so i understand the nature of the prob
[13:35] <BluesKaj> err i don't understand rather
[13:35] <Stew2> Otherwise, the keyboard layout german, is correct.
[13:36] <dueperdue> I have do, thancks ubotu
[13:36] <Stew2> is there a way to tell the rdp client what keyboard strokes to send to the server )question)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> looking to install pyTivo on my linux partition (already working on windows), but command :/path/to/python pyTivo.py, has me stumped :P
[13:38] <Psycoshot> OH shit guys
[13:38] <Psycoshot> cant explain,
[13:38] <Psycoshot> But konqueror is gone
[13:38] <Psycoshot> and now it opens cervisia
[13:38] <synteth> Hi, i have another question, i've run compiz --replace
[13:38] <Psycoshot> what can I do?
[13:39] <Psycoshot> emerald --replace   is the other command to run
[13:39] <flipstar> did you uninstalled? then reinstall!
[13:39] <synteth> Hi, i have another question, i've run compiz --replace, and now everytime linux starts he starts with it, how to change this?
[13:39] <Psycoshot> I didn't ununstall
[13:39] <Psycoshot> its just gone
[13:39] <Psycoshot> I tried to get fiesty
[13:39] <flipstar> so it just dissapered ? oO
[13:39] <SLXViper> is the konquerer-binary still there?
[13:39] <Psycoshot> and it got to 100% but couldn't commit changes
[13:39] <Psycoshot> and now its gone
[13:40] <Psycoshot> SLXViper: how do I check
[13:40] <flipstar> you just upgraded from edgy ?
[13:40] <Psycoshot> It didn't fwork though
[13:40] <SLXViper> Psycoshot: whereis konqueror afair
[13:41] <Psycoshot> nvm I got it to install in Synaptic
[13:41] <synteth> Hi, i have another question, i've run compiz --replace, and now everytime linux starts he starts with it, how to change this?
[13:41] <Psycoshot> Shit dones t work
[13:41] <ForgeAus> ugh synaptic :(
[13:41] <Psycoshot> stfu :P
[13:41] <ForgeAus> synth use a differetn wm --replace ???
[13:42] <ForgeAus> wait is compiz a wm?
[13:42] <Psycoshot> What is another file manager I can use temporarily?
[13:42] <flipstar> im getting "Server is already active on display 0" when running startx :1, startx :2 or startx :3 ..any hints ?
[13:43] <Stew2> where is the package manager on kubuntu
[13:43] <SLXViper> Psycoshot: do you already have Dolphin?
[13:43] <Psycoshot> nope
[13:43] <Stew2> why are all the uninstalled packages greyed out in Add Remove programs_
[13:43] <SLXViper> shit.
[13:43] <Stew2> man this is terrible.
[13:44] <Psycoshot> i can get dolpinh...
[13:44] <SLXViper> Psycoshot: what about a shell?
[13:44] <cannon> i need help again, lol
[13:44] <SLXViper> konsole and bash should work nearly always
[13:44] <Psycoshot> Well I want to back up all my files onto another HD and im reinstalling feisty
[13:45] <cannon> i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found"
[13:45] <SLXViper> just file-by-file without any other things done, Psycoshot?
[13:45] <Psycoshot> I dont have enough time, I have to leave in 10 minutes
[13:45] <Psycoshot> ??
[13:45] <Psycoshot> Yeah
[13:45] <SLXViper> then you could just use cp
[13:45] <Psycoshot> I need to put it on a network computer (smb)
[13:45] <Psycoshot> cp?
[13:45] <Psycoshot> oh
[13:45] <Psycoshot> right
[13:46] <Psycoshot> Yeah
[13:46] <SLXViper> cp -r
[13:46] <Psycoshot> but how do i copy it to an smb folder?
[13:46] <synteth> ForgeAus i'nt understand your question
[13:47] <cannon> i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[13:47] <Psycoshot> heh i like dolphin its nice
[13:49] <ForgeAus> I still prefer konqi and/or krusader
[14:00] <seaman> anybody here?
[14:01] <IppatsuMan> !anybody
[14:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:07] <cannon> hey IppatsuMan, can you help me pls ... i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[14:09] <dueperdue> can somwwane tell me a zip/rar aplication?
[14:09] <LjL> !zip
[14:09] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[14:09] <SlimeyPete> !rar
[14:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[14:09] <cannon> hey IppatsuMan, can you help me pls ... i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[14:09] <cannon> anybody?!?!? lol
[14:10] <tekteen> dueperdue: I like xarchive
[14:18] <wilman> anyone an answer for this problem : This SWF file is known is known to trigger bugs in swfdec decoder. Playback is cancelled
[14:19] <dueperdue> ok, thancks tekteen
[14:30] <shadowhywind> hay all, having an odd issue. My back/forward buttons on my mouse, suddenly just stopped working yesterday. Any ideas?
[14:31] <SLXViper> hmm, xorg.config
[14:31] <shadowhywind> I have looked in there, but haven't found anything of interest yet.. But i haven't tried one thing yet.. one sec
[14:32] <romunov> weird, can't install konqueror
[14:32] <synteth> Hi, I'm here for hours trying to put my modem into monitoring mode
[14:32] <SLXViper> did you change anything? xorg.conf/Keyboard|Mouse-settings/monitor/...?
[14:33] <synteth> Hi, I'm here for hours trying to put my modem into monitoring mode,can someone tell me?
[14:33] <SLXViper> did you change anything? xorg.conf/Keyboard|Mouse-settings/monitor/...?
[14:33] <shadowhywind> ok, so i just restored my xorg config fback to what i had 3 months ago *just to be on the safe side*
[14:33] <shadowhywind> and nothing. even xev isn't recongizeing the key press
[14:34] <SLXViper> hum...
[14:35] <shadowhywind> the only other thing that i did that i could think that would have had an effect was trying to get my wii remote to work
[14:35] <dueperdue> somewane can tell me a software equal at notepad in windows?
[14:35] <shadowhywind> Let me purge those programs and see what happens
[14:35] <jeremy_> is this the right channel to help me get my ipod to work on kubuntu
[14:35] <shadowhywind> kedit, kate, editplus works under wine
[14:36] <shadowhywind> jeremy_ yes, someone may know the answer
[14:36] <romunov> i get this error: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.
[14:36] <romunov> any ideas what might have caused this? i haven't touched the resource.list at all
[14:37] <jeremy_> it was working fine yesterday but today it hangs when it tries to mount
[14:37] <synteth> Hi, I'm here for hours trying to put my modem into monitoring mode,can someone tell me?
[14:39] <jeremy_> i have an ipod nano 3rd gen in kubuntu 7.10 , libgpod 6.0, and amarok 1.4.8.
[14:39] <llutz> synteth: use kppp chatfunction or minicom to send commands to your modem
[14:39] <romunov> weird, there's no konqueror in the apt installed menu
[14:40] <shadowhywind> konqueror i think is in some kde package *not sure though*
[14:41] <romunov> yes, i had it, but i uninstalled it
[14:42] <romunov> i need it briefly, though
[14:43] <llutz> !info konqueror
[14:43] <ubotu> konqueror (source: kdebase): KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 2002 kB, installed size 5340 kB
[14:43] <jeremy_> ipod was working fine yesterday but today it hangs when it tries to mount
[14:43] <jeremy_> i have an ipod nano 3rd gen in kubuntu 7.10 , libgpod 6.0, and amarok 1.4.8.
[14:48] <shadowhywind> so purge+ reboot still nothing..
[14:59] <romunov> funny, slovenia disappeared from sources list
[15:00] <kubuntu_> can someone help me with kde4?
[15:00] <emilsedgh> !kde4 | vhozard
[15:00] <ubotu> vhozard: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:00] <vhozard> how can i move the kmenu button?
[15:02] <vhozard> real quick: howto move the kmenu button in the taskbar?
[15:09] <cannon> hey guys, how do you format a hdd in linux?
[15:10] <cheguevara_> gparted
[15:10] <jpatrick> cheguevara_: o/
[15:10] <SLXViper> qtparted for the gui people.
[15:10] <flipstar> qtparted on kubuntu
[15:10] <cannon> ta
[15:11] <cheguevara_> meh i hate recommending something thats been dead upstream for like 2 years :P
[15:12] <cannon> ugh!
[15:12] <cheguevara_> oh actually its not anymore, never mind :P
[15:14] <icanhasadmin> fdisk, mkswap, mkfs... all your friend.
[15:15] <cannon> how do I unmount a partition?
[15:15] <cannon> like sda3
[15:15] <shadowhywind> umount /dev/sda3
[15:15] <flipstar> sudo umount <mountpoint>
[15:15] <icanhasadmin> ...
[15:16] <flipstar> or right click unmount in /media
[15:16] <cannon> oh no!
[15:16] <cannon> permission denied to mount again
[15:16] <shadowhywind> Ok so i have ran out of ideas why my back/forward buttons no longer are recongizied, anyone have any ideas?
[15:16] <cannon> lol
[15:16] <cannon> <<< linux noob! :D
[15:16] <icanhasadmin> sudo..
[15:17] <cannon> mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:17] <flipstar> shadowhywind: which mouse are you using and what did you changed ?
[15:18] <cannon> sudo mount /dev/sda3 <<< is that the right command?
[15:18] <flipstar> cannon: sudo mount /dev/sda3 <mountpoint>
[15:18] <cannon> what does mount point mean?
[15:18] <flipstar> a directory where you want to mount
[15:18] <shadowhywind> its a logitech *not sure model, lets say mx1000*. They only thing that i can think of that would have affected this, was i tried to get my wii remote to connect and use it as a mouse
[15:18] <cannon> hmmmm?
[15:18] <cannon> just root of it
[15:18] <cannon> so sudo mount /dev/sda3 /
[15:18] <cannon> ?
[15:19] <shadowhywind> But i have since, restored my xorg back 3 months, and purged all the packages that i installed yesterday
[15:19] <icanhasadmin> or /media/sda3
[15:19] <cannon> k
[15:19] <flipstar> cannon: you have to create that directory before like "sudo mkdir /media/newmountpoint; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/newmountpoint
[15:19] <flipstar> "
[15:20] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[15:20] <cannon> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[15:20] <cannon> huh? lol
[15:20] <cannon> could you give me example syntax pls?
[15:20] <cannon> am not familiar yet with this mountpoint stuff
[15:20] <flipstar> this is no linux drive..?
[15:20] <icanhasadmin> uh, use -t maybe?
[15:21] <icanhasadmin> yeah, what filesystem is it formatted in? fat32? ext3? ntfs?
[15:21] <flipstar> shadowhywind: you lucky, there is a tool for logitech mices..
[15:21] <shadowhywind> really?
[15:21] <cannon> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda3': File exists ??? :'(
[15:21] <cannon> this is driving me nuts!
[15:21] <flipstar> shadowhywind: yepp >lomoco
[15:21] <dueperdue> somewane can tell me a programm for convert .avi in divx?
[15:22] <shadowhywind> thanks, will look into that quickly, still kind of odd that it just stoped working suddenly
[15:22] <cannon> sorry icanhasadmin ext3
[15:22] <shaka> #Oslo
[15:22] <icanhasadmin> try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[15:22] <cannon> k
[15:23] <flipstar> shadowhywind: maybe some update overwrote your config.. or something else was changed
[15:23] <cannon> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[15:23] <cannon>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[15:23] <cannon>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[15:23] <cannon>        dmesg | tail  or so
[15:23] <flipstar> cannon: you sure /dev/sda3 is correct ?
[15:24] <cannon> well ealier it said it already existed
[15:24] <icanhasadmin> true, it said the folder was there
[15:24] <icanhasadmin> cannon: did you unplug the usb drive? :P
[15:25] <cannon> it's not usb
[15:25] <cannon> it's sata
[15:25] <cannon> i really don't wanna not have access to almost 500gb
[15:25] <icanhasadmin> hm, i'm pretty nub myself.. wouldn't that show as hda?
[15:25] <flipstar> nope
[15:25] <cannon> no as it's sata
[15:25] <icanhasadmin> ic
[15:25] <cannon> ide's are hda
[15:25] <icanhasadmin> gotcha
[15:26] <cannon> let me show you what I have
[15:26] <icanhasadmin> would mount -l help us at all flipstar? :P
[15:27] <cannon> partition 3 has a "mount point of /media/sda3" and "type of ext3" and "device of /dev/sda3"
[15:27] <cannon> and is currenly showing as disabled in disk and filesystems manager
[15:27] <valeriyk> anyone know why my pinnacle pctv pro won't output any sound?
[15:27] <valeriyk> i get audio fine
[15:28] <flipstar> cannon: you might want to run fsck to see if something wrong with the drive itself
[15:28] <cannon> k
[15:28] <flipstar> >sudo fsck /dev/sda3
[15:30] <cannon> this is driving me nuts
[15:30] <valeriyk> http://pastebin.com/m323fce4b
[15:30] <cannon> ooooooooooooh
[15:30] <valeriyk> that's the relevent dmesg
[15:30] <valeriyk> output
[15:30] <cannon> now i think we are getting somewhere
[15:31] <cannon> ack
[15:31] <dorkface> Hi all, I was wondering if it was possible to run two different programs at the same time, from the CLI.  IE.  Open a firefox window going to google.com and an opera window going to yahoo.com at the same time
[15:31] <cannon> ima re-install and hope I can format from the install cd
[15:32] <cannon> hey flipstar, you couldn't connect to me reomotely could ya?
[15:32] <flipstar> i dont want to responsible for breaking anything :P
[15:33] <cannon> please? lol
[15:33] <slow-motion> hi
[15:34] <cannon> noooooooooooooooOOO! :(
[15:35] <valeriyk> dorkface: try using & at the end of the command
[15:35] <valeriyk> dorkface: IE, firefox &
[15:35] <valeriyk> opera &
[15:35] <valeriyk> works with any program from the cli, & means to free the terminal after its started
[15:36] <dorkface> sweet, thanks
[15:36] <flipstar> brb
[15:36] <valeriyk> np
[15:36] <valeriyk> http://pastebin.com/m323fce4b
[15:36] <valeriyk> that's my dmesg for my tv tuner, anyone know why I don't have sound?
[15:37] <valeriyk> i dont ave it plugged into the back with the short cord, but it's plugged into my mobo sound input
[15:37] <cedric_> does anyone else that me have problem to join the repository for gusty
[15:38] <siofwolves> i can install java ok as java app's run ok. firefox keeps asking me in install java though if for example i wish to play runescape. is there something else i should be doing?
[15:38] <icanhasadmin> don't use firefox
[15:39] <Dragnslcr> siofwolves- check /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[15:39] <Dragnslcr> See if there's a Java plugin in there
[15:40] <siofwolves> Dragnslcr, ok. thx.
[15:40] <icanhasadmin> siofwolves: just connected to runscape in firefox.. it seems to work ok here
[15:41] <synteth> Hi, I'm here for hours trying to put my modem into monitoring mode,can someone tell me?
[15:41]  * cheguevara_ waves at siofwolves 
[15:41] <cheguevara_> siofwolves, u might remember me as eremini :P
[15:42] <llutz> synteth: use kppp chatfunction or minicom to send commands to your modem
[15:42] <synteth> how's that?
[15:42] <siofwolves> icanhasadmin, firefox keeps promting me to install the plugin, which is the jre.
[15:42] <siofwolves> hi cheguevara_
[15:44] <ubuntu> hiya
[15:44] <synteth> llutz i've installed minicom
[15:44] <synteth> and now'
[15:44] <siofwolves> Dragnslcr, no java plugin in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[15:45] <llutz> synteth: "man minicom"
[15:45] <synteth> thank you very much =)
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> siofwolves- that would be the problem then
[15:46] <llutz> synteth: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=Howto&pagename=Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/modem-minicom.html
[15:46] <siofwolves> Dragnslcr, how do i install the plugin?
[15:46] <pushax> can someone suggest a good picture editor?
[15:47] <pushax> siofwolves: have you tried Adept?
[15:47] <siofwolves> pushax, yep, i've installed java through adept
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> siofwolves- I think it should install the plugin automatically if you have Firefox installed when you install Java
[15:48] <pushax> siofwolves: I come inlate tot he convo...  no probs
[15:48] <synteth> llutz thanks
[15:48] <siofwolves> huh
[15:48] <pushax> can someone suggest a good picture editor?
[15:48] <Arwen> pushax, GIMP
[15:49] <przemek_> !pl
[15:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[15:49] <Dragnslcr> siofwolves- check if you have sun-java6-plugin installed
[15:49] <siofwolves> ok, i'm going to remove all traces of java and try reinstalling
[15:49] <SingingTweety> pushax: take some time and learn gimp
[15:49] <pushax> Arwen: thansk.  I forgot that name.  I was confusion it with gwenview whish only displays
[15:49] <Artimus> Should I have to add a resume= option to Grub to make hibernation work?  I've always had the option in there (by  habit).  Should it pick up the swap device by itself?
[15:49] <pushax> pls overlook typos...
[15:50] <pushax> SingingTweety: will do thanks.
[15:50] <JasonWard> Hi I need help with speedCrunch. I want my input to be done in hex, changing output is straightforward but input?
[15:51] <Dragnslcr> JasonWard- hex numbers are just prefixed with 0x
[15:55] <pushax> JasonWard: Kcalc allows hex input if that's what you're talking about?
[15:55] <ign0ramus> Hello all.  Easy question - what's a quick and easy way to set pop-up reminders in Kubuntu, similar to how MS Outlook does?  Difficulty: I'm not running any email clients...
[15:55] <JasonWard> ok thanks guys.I should have thought of 0x myself xD
[15:55] <flipstar> ign0ramus: check knotes
[15:56] <ign0ramus> flipstar: checking.  thx
[15:57] <SingingTweety> pushax: another program worth learning is xara xtreme btw
[15:57] <pushax> SingingTweety: will check that out!
[15:58] <ign0ramus> flipstar: it doesn't actually "pop up" to remind me at the proper time, does it?  How do i set reminders, and what about recurrence?
[15:58] <ign0ramus> flipstar:
[15:58] <ign0ramus> flipstar: it seems like it just leaves a "sticky note" on the desktop... is that accurate?
[15:59] <flipstar> oh ähm seems like the wrong proggy..see kontact instead
[15:59] <ign0ramus> flipstar: ok - checking now.  thx for your help
[16:00] <valeriyk> http://pastebin.com/m323fce4b
[16:00] <valeriyk> anyone know why i'm not getting any audio from my tv tuner?
[16:00] <ign0ramus> flipstar: sweet - this looks like what i was looking for.  thanks man.
[16:01] <HailandKill> I've edited /etc/fstab so that it mounts a file system from a server using nfs. The system is mounted if I run mount -a but never at boot.. any idea why?
[16:01] <valeriyk> do I need the bridge in the back, or should I get sound with the wire from the tv tuner to the motherboard
[16:20] <cannon> hey all
[16:21] <cannon> when installing kubuntu i formated my spare partition but now I can't access it ... i get the following error when trying to mount in Dolphin "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" ... any ideas?
[16:21] <flipstar> try with sudo
[16:22] <cannon> whats the command again?
[16:22] <flipstar> you also could run dolphin as root>kdesu dolphin
[16:22] <Stilo> hi! I've done an update of my kde (3.5.8 -> 3.5.9) Now i see all my folders on the desktop!? What happens?
[16:23] <cannon> SWEEEEEEEEEET! lol
[16:23] <cannon> it's working now
[16:23] <JasonWard> how do I change my file manager from Dolphin to Konquerer in KDE?
[16:23] <flipstar> !dolphin
[16:23] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:24] <cannon> whats the lost and found folder for?
[16:25] <Stilo> !de
[16:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:25] <cannon> imo dolphin is much better than konqueror
[16:26] <flipstar> imo konqueror is much better than dolphin
[16:26] <JasonWard> why? konquerer is neater. if you want to I'd like you to convince me to not change
[16:26] <JasonWard> please
[16:28] <cannon> heh
[16:28] <cannon> i've been using it for only 24 hours
[16:28] <cannon> so just my first impressions m8
[16:29] <shadowhywind> you know i hated dolphin up to the point where i reliazed i cout edit the toolbar *add the up and reload arrows* and have loved it ever since
[16:30] <cannon> time to install compiz :)
[16:31] <siofwolves> Dragnslcr, pushax, i fixed the java problem with "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"
[16:31] <siofwolves> thanks for your help :)
[16:31] <pushax> siofwolves: no.  good to hear
[16:32] <pushax> siofwolves: np.  good to hear
[16:33] <JasonWard> *add the up and reload arrows*? what do you mean?
[16:34] <cannon> hmmm
[16:35] <cannon> i now have access to my 500gb sata
[16:35] <JasonWard> shadowhywind, *add the up and reload arrows*?
[16:35] <cannon> but how do I get apps to auto write to it?
[16:35] <cannon> like with azureus
[16:35] <shadowhywind> to go up one directory
[16:36] <JasonWard> there is only a back and forward button
[16:37] <flipstar-1> cannon: you have to set this in azureus
[16:37] <cannon> yeah but it won't let me acess it
[16:37] <flipstar-1> btw there are better clients then azureus..
[16:38] <flipstar-1> cannon: then enable the permissions ..
[16:38] <cannon> i have a shortcut to the drive on my desktop
[16:38] <flipstar-1> right click >properties>permissions
[16:38] <cannon> can I do it through that like you could in winwoes?
[16:38] <jussi01> flipstar-1: what happened to flipstar?
[16:38] <flipstar-1> flipstar is on tty9
[16:38] <shadowhywind> JasonWard I know, thats i disliked it at first, But you can add it if you want
[16:39] <jussi01> !ghost > flipstar-1
[16:40] <JasonWard> oh i c.
[16:40] <jussi01> !u
[16:40] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:40] <JasonWard> how do I make my text appear red like that?
[16:40] <flipstar-1> its a highlight
[16:40] <jussi01> JasonWard: where?
[16:41] <jussi01> JasonWard: whenever someone says your name, it will be red
[16:41] <JasonWard> do I have to type these obscure names or is there a shortcut?
[16:41] <jussi01> !tab | JasonWard
[16:41] <ubotu> JasonWard: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:41] <flipstar-1> jussi01: seems my client has autorejoin :)
[16:42] <jussi01> flipstar-1: be quick :P
[16:42] <JasonWard> awesome thanks
[16:42] <jussi01> :)
[16:42] <cannon> hey flipstar-1
[16:42] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[16:43] <cannon> when i browse for it should it show in filesystem tab?
[16:43] <cannon> under places?
[16:43] <cannon> hey jussi01
[16:43] <flipstar-1> yes..depend on where you mounted it
[16:43] <tekstacy> What would I use to make a dvd from an .avi file?
[16:43] <cannon> well when i click on that it doesn't show any of the sata's
[16:44] <cannon> it shows: cdroms, disk, floppy, and hda, no sda
[16:45] <cannon> hmmm, i've checked the device manager
[16:45] <cannon> and it has no Mount Point
[16:45] <cannon> but dolphin allows me to browse it
[16:46] <cannon> flipstar?
[16:46] <cannon> * flipstar-1
[16:47] <flipstar-1> maybe you should mount it if it isnt
[16:47] <cannon> could you gimmie example syntax pls
[16:48] <jussi01> !mount
[16:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[16:49] <cannon> would this work: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3?
[16:49] <cannon> ack, i got mount point doesn't exist
[16:49] <flipstar-1> create /media/sda3 first
[16:50] <flipstar-1> sudo mkdir /media/sda3
[16:52] <cannon> thanks, it created
[16:52] <cannon> i have another question though
[16:52] <cannon> how can I allow az to create directories in there
[16:52] <cannon> or allow any user
[16:54] <flipstar-1> right click>properties>permissions
[16:56] <subspider> hi can anyone tell me how to run teamspeak server
[16:56] <subspider> ??
[16:56] <subspider> i want to creat one
[16:57] <subspider> i have alrreay installed
[16:57] <cannon> lol, thats not ubuntu related
[16:57] <subspider> ok so where do i go
[16:57] <flipstar> !teamspeak
[16:57] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[16:57] <subspider> cause is it is installed i just can't run it
[16:58] <flipstar> its proprietry software
[17:10] <superlatino> buenas  buenas
[17:11] <superlatino> ups
[17:17] <Jsn> After rebooting my desktop, the bootup is getting stuck on  Starting Kernal Log Daemon....  does anyone know how i can fix this?
[17:18] <floogy> Hi, I'm a german ubuntuuser, eith this Problem:
[17:18] <floogy> quanta: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : no contact to klauncher
[17:18] <llutz> !de | floogy
[17:18] <ubotu> floogy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:19] <floogy> llutz thank you, but I already tried #ubuntu-de
[17:20] <flipstar> floogy: this here is the kubuntu channel, ubuntu support in #ubuntu
[17:20] <floogy> I guess the audience I could find here is a little bigger than there.
[17:20] <flipstar> strange argument
[17:21] <floogy> klauncher is a kde program I guess
[17:21] <Jsn> After rebooting my desktop, the bootup is getting stuck on  Starting Kernal Log Daemon....  does anyone know how i can fix this?
[17:22] <floogy> flipstar #kubuntu > #kubuntu-de
[17:23] <floogy> Sorry, it seems that this is the right message I receive ;-) "quanta: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher"
 Did you already have a look into /var/log/daemon.log?
[17:24] <Jsn> no not yet
[17:24] <emilsedgh> floogy: i think your kded is dead
[17:24] <emilsedgh> floogy: try to run kded
[17:25] <floogy>  kded? I never heard about that daemon, hm, thanks. I'll have a look into it.
[17:25] <Jsn> also, does anyone know if there is a way to configure grub to load a usb keyboard so that you can select which os you want to boot to?
 enable usb - keyboard in bios settings
[17:26] <emilsedgh> floogy: dont forget to tell me if it works
[17:27] <floogy> Jsn, please have a look in your BIOS for "USB-Legacy-Support" or "USB-Keyboard-Support"
[17:27] <Jsn> it is enabled but it still doesn't enable until windows or kubuntu loads
[17:27] <Jsn> i figured that grub could load it as well
[17:28] <floogy> emilsedgh I'll give it a try, and'll tell you later how it'll go
[17:28] <daw> Jsn: seems that your bios doesnt support such keyboard
[17:29] <daw> becouse had the same situation until I've enabled USB-keys in my bios
[17:29] <Jsn> in my daemon.log file it states that it is trying to connect to LDAP server and that it can't contact, then it say that it's killed by TERM signal, then SIGTERM, quitting
[17:30] <Jsn> how do i disable the LDAP server?
[17:31] <pulaski> Hello, I run kubuntu 7.10 desktop and I'm working through a couple of python tutorials.  In doing this I've had to use python gasp (Graphical API For Stundents of Python).  I used apt-get to grab the python-gasp package but a lot of the functions I'm supposed to incorporate in the tutorial's scripts are not available after I import the gasp module or environment.  Python won't let me do a dir(gasp) to view the gasp contents.
[17:31] <pulaski> Can anyone suggest any docs that would help identify current gasp functions or other useful info?
[17:31] <floogy> emilsedgh I'm sorry to tell, that kded and Enter didn't suffice...
[17:32] <flipstar> pulaski: try #python if it exists
[17:32] <pulaski> ok thanks
[17:32] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi all
[17:32] <emilsedgh> floogy: hm, then i have no idea... :)
[17:33] <floogy> That's a pitty, but thank you anyway ;-)
[17:34] <noaXess_kubuntu> my power manager want run.. it show following error if i run it from console: http://pastebin.com/m743f176b
[17:34] <noaXess_kubuntu> i'm on a laptop with 7.10
[17:35] <noaXess_kubuntu> !power
[17:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:36] <noaXess_kubuntu> !laptop
[17:36] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[17:38] <floogy> emilsedgh I tried it again: kded --new-startup
[17:38] <floogy> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[17:38] <floogy> KDE Daemon (kded) already running.
[17:38] <emilsedgh> hm
[17:38] <emilsedgh> there should be a problem with DCOP
[17:39] <floogy> Yes, I think so, too
[17:39]  * cannon turns the rain one :P
[17:39] <cannon> i love that desktop effect
[17:39] <noaXess_kubuntu> what is the command line tool to dimm the display brightness?
[17:41] <cannon> !themes
[17:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:42] <cannon> !g15
[17:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:42] <floogy> emilsedgh .xsession-errors: WARNING: Waiting for already running klauncher to exit.
[17:43] <emilsedgh> floogy: i had this error, but restarting kde fixed it
[17:43] <cannon> how do I control default programs?
[17:43] <ForgeAus> Linux isn't UNIX-certified is it?
[17:43] <floogy> emilsedgh .xsession-errors: WARNING: Another instance of klauncher is already running!
[17:43] <floogy> kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
[17:43] <cannon> so I can change firefox to the default for all apps?
[17:44] <emilsedgh> cannon: theres an option for it in system settings
[17:44] <emilsedgh> cannon: i think in advanced tab
[17:44] <cannon> i didn't see it
[17:44] <floogy> But that's only temorary: http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg43248.html
[17:46] <synteth> hi, i've installed flash player 9, but i still cant see any youtube movies.
[17:46] <cannon> install firefox synteth ... if ya like that browser it comes auto
[17:47] <Tm_T> synteth: how did you install flash, also, what browser?
[17:47] <synteth> i've tried to install it
[17:47] <synteth> but still cant see it in my kstart internet menu
[17:47] <synteth> i'm using konqueror
[17:47] <synteth> i've scan for plugins
[17:47] <synteth> and installed from adobe website
[17:48] <synteth> i cant see the firefox icon
[17:48] <Tm_T> synteth: don't install that way
[17:48] <Tm_T> !flash | synteth
[17:48] <ubotu> synteth: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:48] <floogy> emilsedgh I got it:
[17:48] <cannon> you could install it with the packahe manager
[17:49] <emilsedgh> ..?
[17:49] <synteth> i did
[17:49] <cannon> thats what I do as i've not figured out manual installs yet :P
[17:49] <floogy> emilsedgh  kdeinit_shutdown && dcopserver_shutdown && kdeinit && quanta
[17:49] <synteth> i install it
[17:49] <synteth> but still cant see a thing
[17:49] <synteth> :s
[17:49] <cannon> should show in your internet menu
[17:49] <synteth> but it doesnt
[17:49] <emilsedgh> ah
[17:49] <synteth> :s
[17:49] <cannon> yeah
[17:50] <floogy> emilsedgh I'll make a smal shellscript
[17:50] <emilsedgh> floogy: so you restarted kdeinit and dcopserver, because kdeinit will start them i think
[17:50] <cannon> synteth: try loading it from terminal and see what ya get
[17:50] <cannon> >firefox
[17:50] <floogy> yes, that's a workaround
[17:50] <Jsn> how do you register a machine on the network in kbuntu?  It seems like my laptop is joined to the network but my desktop is not?
[17:51] <cannon> loading up for ya synteth?
[17:51] <synteth> it's installing again
[17:51] <synteth> unpacking
[17:51] <cannon> k
[17:51] <synteth> ok
[17:51] <synteth> now it shows
[17:51] <synteth> in my internet thing
[17:51] <cannon> sweet :)
[17:51] <synteth> xD
[17:51] <synteth> thanks
[17:52] <cannon> np
[17:52] <cannon> glad I could help
[17:52] <synteth> i'm sorta noob
[17:52] <cannon> especially as am prolly more noob than you
[17:52] <cannon> <<< linux user for about 24 hours :D
[17:52] <synteth> lol
[17:52] <synteth> linux user for about 48 hours
[17:52] <cannon> wanna learn together synteth? lol
[17:52] <synteth> we could
[17:52] <cannon> add me as an im contact
[17:52] <gamerchick02> cannon; congrats on joining the linux movement :)
[17:52] <cannon> heh, thanks gamerchick02
[17:53] <cannon> i LOVE the community
[17:53] <synteth> cannon how to do that?
[17:53] <synteth> xD
[17:53] <cannon> everyone is so willing to help
[17:53] <gamerchick02> synteth; congrats too
[17:53] <gamerchick02> i hope you both feel welcome
[17:53] <synteth> thank you =)
[17:53] <cannon> msn messenger, gmail, skype, etc
[17:53] <gamerchick02> :)
[17:53] <synteth> oh
[17:53] <cannon> IM not i'm ;)
[17:53] <gamerchick02> the community is one of the reasons i've stuck with K/Ubuntu
[17:53] <gamerchick02> (i alternate between gnome and kde)
[17:54] <cannon> that reminds me ... i need to install pidgin :P
[17:54] <synteth> i only have kubuntu
[17:54] <synteth> but i think i might have done a bad chose
[17:54] <synteth> because
[17:54] <cannon> why would ya wanna alternate?
[17:54] <boggystudios> when I change the background picture of the panel I notice a grey line at the top of it.  How do I get rid of that line?
[17:54] <gamerchick02> i switched to kubuntu yesterday... i was getting tired of gnome
[17:54] <synteth> i've installed 7.10 gutsy
[17:54] <gamerchick02> :)  cool
[17:54] <synteth> and i should install the 8.04
[17:55] <gamerchick02> i'll upgrade when it comes out
[17:55] <cannon> am stuck with what i have for now
[17:55] <gamerchick02> boggystudios: i'm looking into your problem
[17:55] <synteth> but w'll stick to kde 3.5.9
[17:55] <cannon> as I have run out of dvd's :P
[17:55] <synteth> right?
[17:55] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: this is on 6.06 by the way
[17:56] <gamerchick02> oooh... i'm on Gutsy... i'm afraid my help might not actually "help" you
[17:56] <gamerchick02> lemme look something up
[17:56] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: shouldn't be too different, I don't think kde changed all that much till 4.0
[17:57] <Jsn> gamerchick02: what was wrong with gnome?
[17:57] <cannon> added ya synteth
[17:58] <synteth> cannon receive it
[17:58] <synteth> :p
[17:58] <cannon> how come?
[17:58] <cannon> lol, thought ya said cannot
[17:58] <gamerchick02> nothing's wrong with gnome, i just wanted a change :)
[17:58] <Lupshit> Hi
[17:58] <cannon> whats the big difference between the 2 gamerchick02?
[17:59] <cannon> hiya Lupshit
[17:59] <gamerchick02> between gnome and kde?  the way it looks and some of the programs that come with it
[17:59] <Lupshit> Only english people here T__T i'm french and i need a little help
[17:59] <cannon> which is best supported?
[17:59] <gamerchick02> but anything you run in gnome can be run in kde
[17:59] <gamerchick02> and vice versa
[17:59] <jpatrick> !fr | Lupshit
[17:59] <ubotu> Lupshit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:59] <cannon> yeah
[17:59] <gamerchick02> cannon: both are well supported
[18:00] <Lupshit> Thanks :)
[18:00] <cannon> woah!
[18:00] <cannon> that french channel has great support
[18:00] <Lupshit> You might help me
[18:00] <cannon> 200+ users!
[18:00] <gamerchick02> not used to having choice, eh?
[18:00] <cannon> heh
[18:00] <cannon> am used to winwoes!
[18:00] <Lupshit> :o
[18:00] <gamerchick02> true
[18:00] <Lupshit> Okay
[18:00] <Lupshit> Thank you
[18:00] <Lupshit> =)
[18:00] <Lupshit> Bye
[18:00] <Lupshit> have a nice day
[18:00] <jpatrick> you too!
[18:01] <cannon> you too Lupshit
[18:01] <cannon> and gl
[18:01] <Lupshit> Thanks
[18:01] <gamerchick02> boggystudios: do you have the appearance set at elegant?
[18:01] <boggystudios> yes
[18:02] <floogy> bye
[18:02] <gamerchick02> you've got a gray line at the top of it?  screenshot?  i'm just trying to determine if it's different from mine
[18:03] <cannon> oooh, that reminds me ... how do I go about installing themes?
[18:03] <gamerchick02> i've got a gray "line" too, but it's not super-noticable
[18:03] <gamerchick02> themes for kde?  i'd try www.kde-look.org
[18:03] <cannon> but how do I install em?
[18:04] <cannon> i have a few that came with the os in emerald manager
[18:04] <cannon> but I dunno how to "apply" em
[18:04] <gamerchick02> icon themes? or kde themes?
[18:04] <cannon> dektop themes
[18:04] <cannon> so kde I assume
[18:04] <mithraic> So I guess my ATI 9200 is just too damn slow to run xgl? i.e. when I enable xgl, window drags takes many seconds.
[18:04] <cannon> but I don't wanna lose compiz fusion
[18:04] <gamerchick02> heh... i really haven't figured that bit out
[18:04] <gamerchick02> *sheepish grin*
[18:04] <mithraic> Or maybe it's because I haven't enabled the right things in xorg.conf?
[18:04] <cannon> am told you don't need xgl
[18:05] <gamerchick02> how do you have compiz running?  i've had issues with it under kde?
[18:05] <cannon> hey mithraic
[18:05] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ compiz --replace
[18:05] <cannon> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[18:05] <cannon> works perfectly for me
[18:05] <mithraic> Hi cannon.
[18:06] <cannon> though I do have a very nice gpu :P
[18:06] <cannon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:06] <cannon> start a fresh with that guide mithraic
[18:07] <cannon> i have found that doing it via the terminal is much more effiecient
[18:07] <mithraic> thx
[18:07] <cannon> np
[18:07] <gamerchick02> cannon: terminal usually is more efficient :)
[18:07] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: how should I get the pic to you?
[18:07] <cannon> http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion <<< the best tut for setting up the amazing effects too! ;)
[18:08] <radomircho> I need some help...if anyone can help me, just write it to me, please
[18:08] <cannon> more efficient for me as I don't always know what packages to keep and to leave :P
[18:08] <gamerchick02> boggystudios: do you have a flickr or photobucket account?  i'd just upload it there and then shoot me the link
[18:08] <Lupshit> Thank you people
[18:08] <Lupshit> I found what i needed
[18:08] <Lupshit> =)
[18:08] <Lupshit> Good bye
[18:09] <cannon> cya
[18:09] <radomircho> I've installed a 64bits version of kubuntu 7.10 and i tried to install some plugins for the mozilla firefox...but it says it's not working with 64bits editions...what can i do...can anyone help me?
[18:09] <mithraic> cannon: When I run compiz --replace, I get this output:
[18:10] <mithraic> http://pastebin.org/23966
[18:10] <cannon> your getting a few not presetns there
[18:10] <mithraic> yeah, and it seems it gives up.
[18:11] <cannon> yeah, it's trying to load metacity
[18:11] <cannon> you installed your drivers for your gpu?
[18:11] <mithraic> Let me just get this clear: should the ATI driver figure out everything it needs to about my card, or do I need to set up xorg.conf to enable specific features?
[18:11] <cannon> go here
[18:11] <cannon> k, system settings, advanced
[18:11] <mithraic> Well, it's running the open-source ATI, which is recommended for the 9200.
[18:11] <cannon> then 4th on the top ... mine disappeared
[18:11] <mithraic> Yeah, no restricted drivers.
[18:12] <cannon> should show in restricted drivers if it "IS" installed
[18:12] <mithraic> Right; it is not, and apparently isn't recommended for 9200 cards and below.
[18:14] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: http://mdcarr.890m.com/taskbar.png
[18:14] <cannon> hmmm, not sure if ytou should try it ... your call :P
[18:14] <cannon> how old is your gpu?
[18:14] <gamerchick02> ah... so it's a transparency thing
[18:14] <cannon> i would try it my self :P
[18:15] <gamerchick02> boggystudios, i see your issue
[18:15] <gamerchick02> you're using the tranparency effect for the taskbar, right?
[18:15] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: well, not exactly.  I couldn't get transparency to work so I just had a gradient into black instead of transparent, but either way the line remains.
[18:15] <gamerchick02> ah
[18:16] <gamerchick02> try to set the "appearance" to "for transparency" and the "panel background" to "enable transparency"
[18:16] <gamerchick02> couldn't get it to work?
[18:18] <cannon> back :)
[18:18] <cannon> i lost my window handles!
[18:18] <gamerchick02> not good
[18:18] <cannon> lol
[18:18] <cannon> i just logged out and in agfain :)
[18:18] <boggystudios> gamerchick02: that makes the entire transparent, which would make the background show through, and the appearance setting sets the taskbar items to where they are black with a white border so that they can be visible no matter what your background is
[18:18] <cannon> only took a min
[18:18] <boggystudios> *entire panel transparent
[18:18] <gamerchick02> ok
[18:19] <gamerchick02> have you trawled the forums to see if anyone else has this issue?
[18:19] <gamerchick02> (sometimes they do, sometimes not)
[18:19] <boggystudios> that being said if I do set the panel background to transparent then the line goes away at the cost of my awesome gradient
[18:20] <gamerchick02> ah, yes...
[18:20] <boggystudios> but no, I was checking here to see if anyone had a quick fix first
[18:20] <gamerchick02> do you have compiz enabled? (that might be causing some issue)
[18:20] <boggystudios> compiz, nah. this is just plain old kde
[18:21] <gamerchick02> k... i'd suggest to hop on over to the forumns and give a their search a spin... make sure you put dapper in the search string... i'm sorry i'm not of more help
[18:23] <boggystudios> well it wasn't really all that important.  I was just getting tired of looking at the same old thing.  Maybe I will try again when 8.04 comes out.
[18:23] <gamerchick02> good idea... i'm looking forward to the new release
[18:23] <gamerchick02> is everyone else?
[18:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> if they get it right, most definitely
[18:26] <gamerchick02> cool
[18:27] <gamerchick02> i always look forward to the next release... although i have been waiting til a few days after release to upgrade :)
[18:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'll update the laptop when it goes beta 2 or so
[18:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> desktop only when it's final
[18:27] <cannon> lol @ fedora code >>> yum install compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-extras
[18:27] <Daisuke-Laptop> and my fiancee's desktop when it goes final
[18:27] <cannon> yummy! :D
[18:27] <gamerchick02> :)
[18:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> cannon: Yellowdog Update Manager = YUM
[18:28] <kubuntu_> can someone help me with kde4?
[18:28] <gamerchick02> Daisuke-Laptop: what laptop are you running it on?  my gateway doesn't like it
[18:28] <cannon> ah
[18:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> kubuntu_: #kubuntu-kde4
[18:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> gamerchick02: dell 1420n
[18:28] <gamerchick02> ah
[18:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> inspiron
[18:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> which has never seen windows, i'm proud to say
[18:29] <vhozard> its a quick question: how can i move my kmenu butto?
[18:29] <gamerchick02> vhozard: right click on it, go up to move, and move it wherever you want it :)
[18:29] <gamerchick02> as long as you haven't locked the taskbar, you're good
[18:29] <gamerchick02> or panel, i mean
[18:29] <vhozard> gamerchick02 i know, but thats kde 3.xxx and i use kde4
[18:30] <gamerchick02> oh... then, in that case... i can't help you (not running kde4)
[18:30] <gamerchick02> sorry...
[18:30] <vhozard> thanks anyway
[18:31] <mithraic> Yay I finally got the proprietary ATI driver to install.
[18:31] <mithraic> I'm going to shoot whoever replaced bash with dash for /bin/sh.
[18:31] <gamerchick02> mithraic: cool
[18:31] <mithraic> It breaks every shell script I've tried to run since upgrading.
[18:31] <jpatrick> mithraic: that was ages ago
[18:31] <llutz> mithraic: this will happen to many distros in future :(
[18:31] <jpatrick> mithraic: and you should #!/bin/bash anyway
[18:32] <mithraic> Well, that just shows how dependent people were on bash.
[18:32] <mithraic> I do -- but -- case in point -- ATI's driver installer doesn't.
[18:32] <mithraic> Nor do half of the scripts written by my colleagues :)
[18:33] <jpatrick> mithraic: " every shell script" ?
[18:33] <mithraic> Every one written not by me :)
[18:33] <mithraic> i.e. the various and fragile pieces of our development system, which is nightmarish.
[18:34] <vhozard> someone with a XXODD laptop?
[18:34] <jpatrick> mithraic: try: sed s/sh/bash ? :)
[18:34] <mithraic> perl -i.bak, usually.
[18:42] <Jsn0327> is KNetwork manager the same as network manager in gusty?
[18:45] <zimon> Jsn0327: no .. it's just the gui for networkmanager
[18:48] <Jsn0327> well i am having a problem with it on my dell laptop.  The driver is installed correctly, the wifi light blinks 50 miles an hour and i can scan with it and connected through wireless assistant but when i right click on the KNetwork Manager icon and goto connection information, it says that there is no device
[18:55] <Servettas> show can i install kde thema?
[18:55] <Servettas> how can i install kde thema?
[19:01] <Servettas> can anyone help me pls how can i install kde thema?
[19:01] <rootking> I was installing the xubuntu desktop on kubuntu 6.10 and got the error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY" how do i fix this problem im a linux newbie BTW?
[19:01] <cannon> !kbfx
[19:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:01] <cannon> awww
[19:03] <ebi_> nabend
[19:03] <LinuxNewbie_> I was installing the xubuntu desktop on kubuntu 6.10 and got the error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY" how do i fix this problem im a linux newbie BTW?
[19:09] <Servettas> can anyone help me pls how can i install kde thema?
[19:11] <jpatrick> !theme
[19:11] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:11] <jpatrick> !changethemes
[19:11] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[19:11] <jpatrick> Servettas: ^
[19:12] <Servettas> jpatrick, thanks
[19:13] <LinuxNewbie_> I was installing the xubuntu desktop on kubuntu 6.10 and got the error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY" how do i fix this problem im a linux newbie BTW?
[19:19] <Methlogic> i install... i partitioned my disk and rebooted i got to the install screen hit ok then it goes to CMD prompt and says everything is ok... then my screen turns green and fades slowly....
[19:19] <Methlogic> anyoe help me?
[19:26] <cannon> who knows what app this is? >>> http://blogage.de/files/1129/thumbnail?transparent-gtk-murrine2.png
[19:29] <Jsn0327> how do you make a script executable?
[19:29] <kenneth> chmod +x script
[19:30] <Jsn0327> thanks
[19:35] <martijn81> how can i control my mothers imac from my kubuntu machine?
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> vnc?
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> !vnc
[19:36] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> or ssh, if macos supports it by default
[19:38] <LinuxNewbie_> I was installing the xubuntu desktop on kubuntu 6.10 and got the error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY" how do i fix this problem im a linux newbie But not new to computers..
[19:40] <airex> hello, people!
[19:41] <phoku2> !dlisp
[19:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dlisp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:41] <phoku2> meh.
[19:42] <martijn81> SlimeyPete: is there a GUI for vnc?
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> martijn81: actually check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop
[19:44] <SlimeyPete> I dunno if there's a "Terminal Sever Client" in kubuntu though
[19:47] <martijn81> SlimeyPete: the part "Accessing the Mac From Ubuntu" is based on gnome :(
[19:50] <SlimeyPete> martijn81: try just running xtightvncviewer without agruments, it may pop up a GUI
[19:50] <SlimeyPete> I know tightvnc does have a GUI under Windows
[19:54] <ShadowKnight> hi all.
[19:55] <ShadowKnight> Does anyone here know anything about linux antiviruses?
[19:55] <swatto> dont really need to bother with them ive been told shadowknight
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> !virus
[19:55] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:58] <swatto> how long does a user stay in root when they have opened system settings or something like that?
[19:58] <swatto> or if doing a sudo command
[19:58] <ShadowKnight> okay, thanks for the link, but where can i get the software you mentioned? The more people praise something as indestructible, the more wary I am...
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> ShadowKnight: you just need a good firewall
[19:59] <Dragnslcr> swatto- I believe sudo credentials are cached for 10 or 15 minutes
[20:00] <ShadowKnight> I have one, but short of disconnecting the network cable, there's no way I can ensure that nothing's piggybacking on the authorized traffic.
[20:00] <pauljw> ShadowKnight, it's true that linux doesn't really need an a/v package, but it's good citizenship that if you exchange emails with people who use windows, you should protect them from infection.
[20:00] <swatto> can you change the cache time Dragnslcr
[20:01] <ShadowKnight> alright, thank you all for the advice.
[20:01] <ShadowKnight> cya.
[20:02] <Dragnslcr> swatto- yes, not sure how though. I'm looking through the man page
[20:02] <Dragnslcr> "a timestamp is updated and the user may then use sudo without a password
[20:02] <Dragnslcr>        for a short period of time (15 minutes unless overridden in sudoers)"
[20:02] <^Jsn^> is there any way to setup manual ip configuration in network manager for a wireless profile with WPA?
[20:04] <Dragnslcr> swatto- the option is timestamp_timeout
[20:05] <swatto> ok thankyou :)
[20:06] <Dragnslcr> swatto- Defaults timestamp_timeout=N
[20:06] <Dragnslcr> I think
[20:06] <tekteen> ^Jsn^: it is hard
[20:06] <Dragnslcr> Or so the sudoers man page seems to tell me
[20:06] <tekteen> ^Jsn^: it is another bug in the knetworkmanager
[20:07] <^Jsn^> damnit
[20:10] <gargoyle76> I'm trying to change my monitor settings.  I can't seem to get anything to work
[20:10] <gargoyle76> laptop res. 1200x800
[20:10] <tekteen> !X
[20:10] <^Jsn^> tekteen: is there another app that can do it?
[20:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:10] <tekteen> ^Jsn^: I do not know of any
[20:11] <gargoyle76> ok...i'll try
[20:11] <tekteen> ^Jsn^: unfortunately how I would do it falls under "works for me"
[20:11] <tekteen> and is hard to explain
[20:13] <cannon> hi all
[20:13] <tekteen> hi
[20:17] <BizMan> hey everyone i just installed an extra sata 500gb internal hd
[20:17] <BizMan> how do i get linux to notice it?
[20:17] <BizMan> do i format it to fat32? then mount it?
[20:18] <BizMan> any help would be appreciated it
[20:20] <BizMan> anyone?
[20:20] <^u^> BizMan, will it be a linux only disk or used with windows as well?
[20:20] <cannon> ext3 would be better
[20:20] <BizMan> linux only, samba share
[20:20] <BizMan> i will no thave windows installed
[20:20] <cannon> winwoes FTL!
[20:20] <^u^> BizMan, then ext3 is best as cannon says :)
[20:21] <BizMan> ok thats what i did
[20:21] <BizMan> but
[20:21] <BizMan> it now says that i have 8gb or so in use?
[20:21] <BizMan> from what
[20:21] <BizMan> i havent done anything to it yet
[20:22] <^u^> BizMan, what says you have 8G in use?
[20:22] <BizMan> gparted
[20:23] <BizMan> its a 500gb hd, brand new but it says size about 465gb
[20:23] <BizMan> 7.5 gb in use
[20:23] <^u^> BizMan, does gparted say the disk is 492G instead of 500?
[20:23] <BizMan> 465.76 instead of 500
[20:23] <BizMan> why is that?
[20:24] <cannon> The Spinx menu looks (depending on the skin) like the picture below [nookie, please insert a picture here].
[20:24] <cannon> lol
[20:24] <cannon> nookie didn;'t get the message!
[20:24] <^u^> BizMan, marketing - it is 500G with 1G as 1000 bytes - but 1G is 1024 bytes
[20:24] <BizMan> bastards
[20:24] <BizMan> ^u^, but anyways how is 7.5 in use?
[20:24] <^u^> BizMan, hehe :)
[20:25] <BizMan> all i did was format it
[20:25] <BizMan> to ext3
[20:25] <^u^> BizMan, no idea - use gparted to remove/delete that
[20:25] <BizMan> delete the partition?
[20:25] <BizMan> theres only the ext3 one
[20:26] <milian> someone I know has problems with mounting usb devices via GUI. manual mounting in the cli works fine but he wants to use GUI. this would be a HAL problem, right?
[20:26] <^u^> BizMan, it might be the partition table but it seems large for that - can you see any data on there?
[20:26] <milian> dmesg and everything looks fine - I dunno where he should look for errors
[20:26] <BizMan> i havent even mounted it yet
[20:26] <BizMan> hows the best way to go about that
[20:26] <^u^> BizMan, in konsole do   df -h
[20:26] <BizMan> in terms of adding it to fstab
[20:27] <BizMan> give me a minute, im reformatting it again
[20:28] <tux_> hmmm
[20:29] <BizMan> damn samething after the format
[20:29] <BizMan> hold on let me try what u suggested
[20:29] <BizMan> ^u^, it doesnt show in the list
[20:30] <^u^> BizMan, might have to mount it first
[20:30] <BizMan> the new hd is called sdb1
[20:30] <BizMan> ok how do we do that
[20:32] <^u^> BizMan, in konsole type   sudo mkdir /media/"Something"    then     sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/"Something   where Something is what you want it mounted as
[20:32] <Paarth> I'm having trouble logging in to my box. i'm at the well.... welcome screen I guess you would call it, and everything is typed in correctly, but it won't go in to my account. the screen turns black and then just comes back to the welcome screen. this happens even if I change the setting (I've tried fluxbox, kde, MVM, failsafe....) I tried using console login, removed /tmp/.X0-lock and did...
[20:32] <Paarth> ...startx but I got errors and the server refused to start. could somebody help?
[20:33] <BizMan> what are these things typically called?
[20:34] <^u^> BizMan, storage  movies whatever - call it Ralph :)
[20:34] <tux_> does anyone know anything about bluetooth?
[20:34] <BizMan> /dev/sdb1             459G  199M  435G   1% /media/Storage
[20:35] <BizMan> pl
[20:35] <BizMan> ok
[20:35] <BizMan> thats what it shows with df -h
[20:35] <Shadow_mil2> AH
[20:36] <BizMan> Now it shows only 435tb available out of the 459?
[20:36] <BizMan> does that make sense?
[20:36] <Paarth> anybody have any ideas on what to do?
[20:36] <tux_> tells me you have a TON of h/d space
[20:37] <^u^> BizMan, never had a 500G disk but I wouldn't be happy with it
[20:38] <BizMan> but whats using the 199mb of space
[20:39] <BizMan> and how do i get the drive to show in my storage media tab?
[20:39] <^u^> BizMan, that would be the file table stuff
[20:39] <^u^> BizMan, to mount it with fstab open fstab with sudo
[20:40] <BizMan> opened
[20:40] <^u^> Bizman add the line - /dev/sdb1	/media/Storage  ext3  defaults  0		2
[20:41] <BizMan> then mount -a?
[20:41] <^u^> BizMan, yep
[20:41] <BizMan> this is what i get after that command
[20:42] <BizMan> sudo mount -a
[20:42] <BizMan> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[20:42] <guztavoelias_> holas
[20:42] <^u^> BizMan, in sudo fstab go to the end of the last line and hit enter then save the file
[20:42] <guztavoelias_> sever spanish?
[20:42] <^u^> !es
[20:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:43] <guztavoelias_> ty
[20:43] <guztavoelias_> thank
[20:43] <^u^> denada
[20:43] <BizMan> ok done
[20:43] <BizMan> but it still doesnt show in the storage media location in dolphin
[20:43] <^u^> BizMan, then   mount -a
[20:43] <tux_> does anyone know how to get kbluetooth to stop letting my mouse and keyboard disconnect after inactivity?
[20:43] <BizMan> did that, do i need to reboot?
[20:43] <tux_> kinda makes it hard when if I go afk for 15min I have to reboot my comp lol
[20:43] <^u^> BizMan, I would normally reboot
[20:44] <BizMan> ok ill be back
[20:44] <BizMan> thanks for your helpo
[20:44] <^u^> k
[20:44] <^u^> !bluetooyh > tux_
[20:44] <martijn81> SlimeyPete: that worked out fine!
[20:44] <matt1728> !tux
[20:44] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[20:45] <^u^> oops
[20:45] <martijn81> thanks man
[20:45] <tux_> heh.. tux.. my little penguin buddy.. I carry him with me everywhere
[20:46] <ubuntu> after installing kubuntu.. i can customize my kernel, correct?
[20:47] <ubuntu> no problems...
[20:47] <ubuntu> i'll take that as a yes :)
[20:47] <^u^> of course you can :)
[20:47] <tux_> spin the cube
[20:50]  * cannon spins his cube!
[20:51]  * martijn81 wants composite effects in kwin soon
[20:52] <matt1728> !kwin
[20:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:52] <RSC-232> hi. xorg.conf has the resolutions but display settings only shows 640x480
[20:52] <cannon> whats kwin?
[20:52] <cannon> a compiz alternative?
[20:52] <_eFFe_> beryl
[20:53] <milian> cannon: kwin is the default KDE window manager
[20:54] <cannon> i gave myself an electric shocker earlier
[20:54] <milian> and martijn81: use KDE4 with the kwin-composite
[20:54] <milian> works like a charm
[20:54] <cannon> it hurt my arm for about 3 hours ... you think it was bad for me? lol
[20:55] <cannon> how do I change emerald themes?
[20:59] <martijn81> milian: the kubuntu alpha kde4 is not that good to be honest
[21:00] <milian> compile kde4 yourself :P
[21:00] <milian> I'm gone bye
[21:00] <martijn81> yeah, but how....
[21:00] <martijn81> is there a guide for that?
[21:01] <martijn81> i am off, have a good one all
[21:04] <RSC-232> i fixed the resolution problem i had to select my moniter in display settings but now its blurry
[21:14] <dennister> hey ppl...am having a bit of trouble loading a livecd of gutsy on this p4 I'm testing
[21:15] <dennister> tried a number of special boot parameters, like 'live vga=771 noapic no laspic" and while i can clearly see boot process, it just stops & hangs...any ideas?
[21:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> no lapic, not laspic
[21:16] <dennister> sorry, did use 'no lapic as a boot parameter
[21:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> had the same issue, and *just* using noapic and nolapic worked
[21:16] <dennister> hmmm...can try that, although i should probably state that i'm using a simple pci video card, and have disabled the agp slot in bios
[21:17] <Daisuke-Laptop> if you're getting video at all, you should be okay there
[21:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> pci cards work okay enough (media box in the living room can attest to that, wee geforce 2)
[21:18] <dennister> anyone have any other suggestions i can try when i go downstairs and test Daisuke-Laptop's idea?
[21:19] <RickKnight> Help! Feisty/Gutsy upgrade went OK, but unable to boot after. I get this error...http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/59856/ Can someone help me sort this?
[21:19] <dennister> i also get this message with livecd: "strange...dazed and confused, I will try to continue"
[21:20] <dennister> guess gutsy and the cd have a sense of humor
[21:20] <x_link> Hi!
[21:20] <x_link> Does anybody here use Ktorrent?
[21:20] <dennister> i use ktorrent daily
[21:21] <x_link> dennister: Okey, does it work good for you now?
[21:21] <x_link> It has been really strange for me this last couple of days or this last week.
[21:21] <dennister> but it crashes daily, too ...lol...usually it does fine...i just start it up again
[21:21] <x_link> It shuts down by itself etc.
[21:21] <x_link> dennister: Yeah, for me as well!
[21:21] <x_link> dennister: Why is that?
[21:21] <dennister> yep...it's been doing that for months...unfortunately, i don't know why
[21:22] <dennister> i keep hoping a bug fix will correct it, but not yet
[21:22] <x_link> dennister: Okey, really strange.
[21:22] <x_link> Cause it has only been like this for a week maybe for me.
[21:22] <x_link> Not more than 2 weeks anyway.
[21:23] <dennister> ok, well, like i said, it's been months for me, even back when i was still on feisty
[21:23] <dennister> oh well, gonna go downstairs and see if the simpler boot options will work
[21:23] <matt1728> what is nspluginviewer? anyone had it crash before
[21:36] <nick_> hey i need help
[21:36] <matt1728> with?
[21:36] <nick_> with java x64 how to install it
[21:36] <nick_> on x86_64
[21:37] <matt1728> try this
[21:37] <matt1728>  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[21:37] <nick_> ok
[21:38] <nick_> not pack existe for this aplication
[21:39] <matt1728> open adept manager and search for java
[21:39] <nick_> ok
[21:39] <matt1728> probably the easiest way
[21:40] <nick_> let me try
[21:40] <synteth> hi, i'm willing to install a theme from kde, i've tried to run the file theme but nothing happens
[21:40] <xtknight> is there any way to upgrade to kde 4.x?
[21:41] <xtknight> a repository for gutsy?
[21:41] <nick_> download de beta
[21:41] <nick_> the *
[21:41] <NickPresta> xtknight, there are instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php
[21:41] <xtknight> NickPresta, ahh thanks
[21:44] <synteth> can someone help me?
[21:44] <nick_> matt1728: i think its going to work
[21:46] <dennister> ok, booting with the livecd and a simple 'live noapic no lapic' didn't help...the message I got was the by-now-familiar "are you using a strange powersaving feature? dazed and confused,I will try to continue" and during the verbose booting (nosplash) without the livecd, i get a message that it can't do cpu scaling
[21:47] <dennister> this is actually a p4 cpu, complete with 1G of rambus memory
[21:49] <nick_> matt1728: hey i have another question for you
[21:50] <matt1728> yea?
[21:50] <nick_> i have a logitech g5 and when i use it about like 5 min its going of and i can't use it
[21:51] <nick_> i have to use my wireless mouse ps/2
[21:51] <dennister> oh well, this was for testing the board, ram & stuff anyway...don't want to try the alternatecd because i want to get a larger hdd b4 i set up this server
[21:51] <matt1728> is it usb?
[21:51] <dennister> ttyl folks
[21:51] <matt1728> might the driver
[21:51] <nick_> ya
[21:51] <nick_> maybe
[21:52] <matt1728> i use a laptop but never had a mouse problam
[21:52] <matt1728> try reinstalling the driver
[21:52] <nick_> how :S
[21:53] <matt1728> adept manager search for logitech it should show up if not then i have no idea
[21:53] <matt1728> lol
[21:53] <nick_> hahaha ok thanks
[21:54] <matt1728> np
[21:54] <matt1728> did yooou get java to work?
[21:55] <matt1728> how do i register the IRC nick
[21:55] <matt1728> ?
[21:55] <matt1728> !nick
[21:55] <nick_> yes
[21:55] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[21:55] <clsk> is there a way to get GTK applications not to look so... ugly? as in maybe use the KDE theme or something like that?
[21:56] <anon32> clsk, that should be the default, actually
[21:56] <anon32> it doesn't quite work though
[21:56] <clsk> ah
[21:56] <clsk> hopefully it'll get fixed with the beta version then
[21:57] <nick_> hey matt1728
[21:57] <matt1728> hey
[21:57] <nick_> limewire not work .deb
[21:57] <nick_> my bad
[21:57] <nick_> im not to hot now lol
[21:57] <matt1728> lol
[21:58] <matt1728> it wont let me gegister
[21:58] <matt1728> register*
[22:00] <derdui_> Hi, does anybody know, why i cant create a new partition with gparted, the partitions are locked..... but iam root
[22:00] <synteth> i need some help installing a kdm theme
[22:01] <synteth> i need some help installing a kdm theme, i dont even know how it works
[22:01] <jpatrick> !changetheme | synteth
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <jpatrick> !changethemes | synteth
[22:01] <ubotu> synteth: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[22:02] <synteth> thank you very much
[22:03] <matt1728> !chess
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chess - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <matt1728> !fics
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > matt1728 (see pm)
[22:06] <tikka> can someone help me with apt-get.. its being a real pain. unmet deps, dpkg: error processing ... trying to overwrite .. etc
[22:07] <soulrider> does anyone ahve any tips on how to secure ssh ?
[22:07] <jpatrick> soulrider: it is secure :-/
[22:07] <soulrider> tikka: what problems are you having ?
[22:07] <jpatrick> !aptfix | tikka
[22:08] <ubotu> tikka: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:08] <sgrover> tikka: did you do an update/upgrade first?
[22:08] <Dragnslcr> soulrider- yeah, don't give anyone your password
[22:08] <tikka> im not sure where the problem came from, i mostly use apt-get however have lately let adept_updater do some things.. since then I noticed I am unable to do any package management
[22:09] <sgrover> soulrider: ssh is very well documented online... I remember seeing a few articles on locking it down...
[22:09] <sgrover> I'll see if I can track any down.
[22:09] <tikka> i just ran the command listed by the bot, should i attept apt-get update next or ?
[22:10] <tikka> attempt*
[22:10] <sgrover> tikka: I would
[22:10] <tikka> okeys
[22:10] <sgrover> doing an update is harmless.  If that doesn't work, then you have other problems.
[22:11] <tikka> i see
[22:11] <tikka> okeys, update was fine
[22:11] <sgrover> If that *does* work, that might take care of the dependancy issues...
[22:11] <tikka> ahh i see
[22:11] <tikka> okeys hope so
[22:11] <sgrover> k, now do an upgrade
[22:11] <sgrover> soulrider: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8759
[22:11] <tux__> anyone know how to make my windows machine see one of my hd's?
[22:12] <matt1728> as a dual boot?
[22:12] <sgrover> soulrider: a google search for "securing ssh" had a lot of responses... :)  (I'll have to remember to check them out myself too.. :) )
[22:12] <tikka> The upgrade failed: http://pastebin.ca/945403 (deps not installed (relating to e17))
[22:12] <sgrover> tux__: make the drive a FAT partition.  Or share the drive with Samba (windows shares).
[22:12] <tux__> no no
[22:12] <tux__> on my network
[22:13] <tux__> I've got a windows machine on the other side of the house..
[22:13] <matt1728> oh
[22:13] <matt1728> samba?
[22:13] <tux__> I can grab the stuff of of that computer.. but it can't see me
[22:13] <tikka> tux__ i use windows file and print sharing, to share my external usb hdd over the lan, to my linux laptop. I used smb4k gui tool to found it.
[22:14] <matt1728> i dont think windows can open ext3
[22:14] <tikka> tux__: as he said, samba probably is the key here :). you need a service of sorts on your linux side
[22:14] <tux__> lol actually I'm trying to share my usb hd lol
[22:14] <matt1728> cause i have a dual boot
[22:14] <matt1728> and windows cant read the linux HD
[22:14] <matt1728> but linux can read it fine
[22:14] <tikka> install ext2fs driver
[22:14] <sgrover> tikka: check your sources.list file to make sure you have the default entries set.  It would look like you have or have had a repository listed that isn't compatible... maybe... :)
[22:14] <tikka> interesting, thanks i will take a look
[22:14] <tux__> that's weird matt.. cause linux reads all my hd's fine.. even the windows partition lol
[22:14] <sgrover> matt1728: in your case you need either a FAT partition, or the ext2fs driver....
[22:15] <matt1728> it does fore me too.. im just saying that windows wont read anything but its own
[22:15] <sgrover> tux__: access over the network is file sharing.  Samba is what you want in this case.
[22:15] <tikka> if i remove repos, for example e17 which i do not wish to use any more anyway.. will it cause apt to be incapble of remove?
[22:15] <tux__> cool beans
[22:15] <sgrover> tikka: try doing apt-get remove enlightenment then....  (I thinkthat's the package name)
[22:16] <sgrover> tux__: there's a ton of guides out there - in your case, look for the very simple ones - just a plain "share" server.
[22:16] <tikka> sgrover: i am greeted with unmet deps, telling me to apt-get -f install to force it.. but i tried that earlier to no avail
[22:17] <sgrover> tux__: Samba can do a whole lot more, and can be a little awkward to get going right (specially if you've never done it before)
[22:17] <tikka> tux__: as sgrover said.. it can be awkward.. years ago i had my samba open to the world unprotected for 16 days before i realised.. thankfully I am not so stupid these days
[22:17] <sgrover> tikka: just a guess here, but try apt-get purge enlightenment  - that should remove anything having to do with enlightenment from your server...
[22:17] <tux__> so I'm gonna have to set the sharing properties up before the winblows machine is gonna see it
[22:17] <myrtille> !german
[22:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:18] <sgrover> tux__: the box you are trying to share... is it a server or a workstation?
[22:18] <tikka> sgrover: eek i tried, but it is still being stubborn. Same messages regarding deps.
[22:18] <tux__> just my desktop, so a workstation
[22:18] <sgrover> tikka: it was worth a shot.. :)
[22:18] <tikka> yeah agreed :)
[22:19] <sgrover> tux__: ok, in that case, it might be even easier...  is it Kubuntu?  If so, then KDE has a sharing option that take care of the samba parts for you... one sec, I'll track down the details
[22:19] <tux__> yeah it's Kubuntu
[22:21] <sgrover> tikka: you've tried "apt-get -f install" ?  Or "apt-get upgrade --fix-missing"?
[22:22] <sourcemaker> I am unable to install the current syke version... how can I find the reasion for crash?
[22:22] <sourcemaker> the last message is: unable to overwrite image : /usr/share/icons/skype.png
[22:23] <Biggles> how do you install a window decoration theme?
[22:23] <tekteen> !theme
[22:23] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:23] <MidMark> sourcemaker: uninstall the previous version might help
[22:23] <tekteen> !changethemes
[22:23] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[22:23] <MidMark> seems you have an incompatible version
[22:23] <sourcemaker> MidMark: you tried... does not help
[22:24] <MidMark> sourcemaker: where did you downloaded skype?
[22:24] <MidMark> and which version?
[22:25] <sourcemaker> MidMark: problem solved... :-)
[22:26] <sourcemaker> MidMark: there is a depedency packages... with occured the problem.... uninstall and reinstall solved the problem
[22:26] <MidMark> mmm ok
[22:27] <sgrover> tux__: go to System Settings, then "Sharing" under the Network & connectivity section.  Then File Sharing.  In there you can set up file sharing.
[22:27] <sgrover> tux__: you'll probably need to install samba first though - apt-get install samba
[22:27] <tux__> on my kubuntu or on the windows box
[22:27] <Biggles> that didnt really help...
[22:27] <tux__> I already have samba
[22:27] <sgrover> tux__: on kubuntu
[22:27] <tux__> ok
[22:28] <sgrover> tux__: then after you set up that File Sharing bit, you *should* be able to right-click/properties on the directory you want shared, then go to the sharing tab and enable it.  At that point, windows *should* be able to see the share
[22:28] <tux__> smb and nfs servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed
[22:29] <sgrover> tux__: then you don't have samba installed - you have the smbclient tools installed.
[22:29] <sgrover> you need the samba server.
[22:29] <tux__> ah gotcha
[22:30] <tux__> hmmm.. my adept shows I have samba
[22:30] <tux__> nm don't have all the dependencies
[22:31] <sourcemaker> will there a next update for kde 3.5.9 available?
[22:31] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: .9 is available, what do you mean?
[22:32] <sourcemaker> jpatrick:  3.5.10 or 3.6?
[22:32] <tux__> well that was cute.. suddenly logged me out
[22:32] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: I don't think there will be, but I'm not sure
[22:32] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: ok
[22:33] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: so I have to wait... until kde4 is stable for productive use :-)
[22:33] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: most of the focus now is KDE 4
[22:35] <matt1728> kde 4 is like vista
[22:35] <tux__> so kde4 is like o/s8 lol
[22:36] <sgrover> KDE 4.0.x is a first release of a rather significant departure from the "traditional" desktop interface.  I'm holding out for 4.1, things should stabilize by then.. :)
[22:37] <sgrover> (4.1 is scheduled for April I think....)
[22:37] <matt1728> oh nice
[22:37] <matt1728> when is going to boarded with kubuntu?
[22:40] <tux__> alrighty.. I have all the samba stuff installed
[22:41] <MidMark> sgrover: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
[22:41] <MidMark> 4.1 is for end of july
[22:42] <MidMark> april -> alpha1
[22:42] <aaroncampbell> Well, it seems that I messed up my user account.  I wanted to add a group to it (avg), but ran this command: sudo usermod -G avg aaroncampbell
[22:42] <Biggles> i dont understand.. to add in a window decoration you have to do ./configure, make and sudo make install correct?
[22:42] <aaroncampbell> It seems that rather than add a new group, it removed all my old ones and replaced them with avg. Now I don't have sudo permissions.
[22:43] <tux__> kubuntu almost makes me miss my old redhat lol I feel like such a newb relearning all this
[22:43] <aaroncampbell> Is there any way to find out what groups I was part of before?  Or is there a way to see what groups I started as a part of?
[22:44] <Biggles> anyone?
[22:46] <synteth> i would like to install a kde theme, but i dont know how to install zip files
[22:46] <synteth> i would like to install a kde theme, but i dont know how to install zip files, can someone help me!
[22:47] <tux__> alright.. well my windows machine can see me on "workgroup computers" now.. but it wants a user name and pw lol
[22:48] <matt1728> lol
[22:48] <matt1728> use ur linux account?
[22:49] <tux__> nope.. that's not it lol
[22:51] <matt1728> is there a dvdshrink type app for linux?
[22:53] <sgrover> tux__: at the command prompt on your *buntu box, do "smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME"
[22:54] <sgrover> Then use that name/pass as the credentials for Windows.
[22:54] <sgrover> (er, when windows prompts you)
[22:54] <sgrover> - oh, it might be smbpasswd2 now....
[22:54] <tikka> [22:21] <sgrover> tikka: you've tried "apt-get -f install" ?  Or "apt-get upgrade --fix-missing"?
[22:55] <tux__> well I know my password for my user name
[22:55] <tikka> failed too :(
[22:55] <tux__> I have to put it in anytime I use adept to isntall something
[22:59] <Biggles> i dont understand.. to add in a window decoration you have to do ./configure, make and sudo make install correct?
[22:59] <sgrover> tux__: the password being asked for is NOT your linux password - it's the password set up with the smbpasswd command. (which *could* be the same, but doesn't have to be)
[22:59] <arrrghhh> so is there any way to login to a machine remotely?  there's directions on how to set it up with gdm... but i'm using kubunut.
[23:00] <sgrover> Biggles: the .configure/make/make install is typical when you are compiling something from source.  It *could* be a window decoration, or something else.
[23:00] <tux__> sgrover: I'm assuming it's not because it's not working with that pw
[23:01] <Biggles> ok well i do that for my wd and it doesnt show up in my wd settings
[23:02] <Biggles> do i have to uninstall the custom one already installed or something?
[23:03] <Biggles> this is gettin me mad
[23:03] <sgrover> tux__: in system setup again - under the file sharing bit.  click on the "add" button.  Then select your directory, and check the "Share with Samba" checkbox.  Then click the "More Samba Options" button.
[23:04] <sgrover> tux__: THEN switch to the Users tab.  Add a user.  If you see nothing listed there, then you need to do the smbpasswd command to add a Samba user.
[23:05] <arrrghhh> so there's no way to login remotely to my computer using kubuntu?  i have to use regular ubuntu?
[23:09] <synteth> i would like to install a kde theme, but i dont know how to install zip files, can someone help me!
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- login how? Just a shell, or do you want to control the primary display?
[23:10] <arrrghhh> synteth, what are you installing zip files for?  just get kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[23:10] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, i can ssh in, but i would like to login so my roomie can watch movies, tv shows, etc.  i'd also like to add some stuff on knotes.
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> synteth- I'm not sure I would trust a KDE theme that's in a .zip file
[23:11] <mlsoft> arrrghhh: use VNC for this.
[23:11] <derdui_> Hi does anybody know, wich hexcode i should use? its a boot partition http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/114545/
[23:11] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- so you want the primary display, or a new graphical login?
[23:11] <synteth> Xairon-Compiz_Blacklight.tar.gz
[23:11] <arrrghhh> mlsoft, i use x11vnc, and it can't find DISPLAY.  or an X server.
[23:11] <mlsoft> i use it too, but just setup by hand
[23:11] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, well i'd prefer the primary display, that's what x11vnc has always done for me.
[23:12] <sgrover> synteth: if you have a "zip" file of the theme, you don't "install" it per se.  Normally the theme files are a .tar.gz file.  Open kcontrol, then go to Appearance & Themes - then Theme Manager.  Click the "Install new theme" button.  Point it at your compressed file.
[23:12] <Dragnslcr> x11vnc works fine for me
[23:12] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- how are you starting x11vnc?
[23:12] <mlsoft> i start x11vnc in the script in Setup of the kdm manager
[23:13] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, uh... i ssh in and run "x11vnc".  it tries to find a display and fails.  want a pastebin?
[23:13] <mlsoft> not with ssh, it wont work
[23:13] <Dragnslcr> arrrghhh- if you want the primary display, you have to specify -display :0
[23:13] <arrrghhh> mlsoft, what do i have to do then?
[23:13] <mlsoft> must be started at boot in the kdm script
[23:13] <mlsoft> wait, i check for the exact script...
[23:14] <Dragnslcr> mlsoft- x11vnc works fine from a normal shell
[23:14] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, still doesn't work.  it automatically tries display :0 but can't find it.
[23:14] <Dragnslcr> I'm not sure offhand if you have to start it from the login that you want to export
[23:14] <root> ffffffffffffffff
[23:14] <root> lllllllllllll
[23:14] <arrrghhh> i've never had a problem with it until the machine is at the login screen.  if i'm already logged in, no problem.
[23:14] <root> hlollll
[23:15] <sgrover> Dragnslcr: if you are su'd to root, that's common.
[23:15] <synteth> sgrover i've done that, and when i install new theme, i can't point to a zip file
[23:15] <Dragnslcr> Here's the command I use in an Autostart script
[23:15] <root> mmmmmmmmmmmbvnvnghngffh
[23:15] <Dragnslcr> x11vnc -display :0 -bg -forever -rfbauth /home/me/.vnc/passwd -ssl /path/to/cert
[23:15] <root> iiiiii
[23:16] <synteth> lo
[23:16] <trasgo> we
[23:16] <mlsoft> this is the script /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup
[23:17] <mlsoft> this is the line to add at end: /usr/bin/x11vnc -passwdfile /root/.x11vnc/passwd -xwarppointer -cursorpos -shared -forever -bg -display :0
[23:17] <mlsoft> and you create the file passwd, with clear passwd inside, but restricted to read by root only
[23:18] <arrrghhh> that's chmod to 700 right?
[23:18] <mlsoft> yes
[23:18] <arrrghhh> k i'll try that thanks.
[23:18] <Dragnslcr> Ugh, why
[23:18] <mlsoft> and the directory /root/.x11vnc too
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> Never store passwords in plain text
[23:19] <mlsoft> this the way the soft works
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> No, that's the way you've chosen
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> x11vnc can use a normal vncpasswd file
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> It's the -rfbauth option
[23:20] <mlsoft> then when made as directed before, when you start the machine, the x11vnc is started as soon kdm is running
[23:20] <mlsoft> and it expose the display :0
[23:20] <dunkel> jemand da der deutsch und mir eventuell helfen kann? *g
[23:20] <mlsoft> with this read by root only passwd file
[23:21] <mlsoft> yes, you are right.
[23:21] <arrrghhh> mlsoft, can you explain the other options?  like xwarppointer, cursorpos, shared.  i get forever.  -bg?  no background?  thanks.
[23:21] <mlsoft> but for first trial, the plain method is cleaner to test connection, you can always strenghten the passwd later when all works
[23:22] <mlsoft> the man page will explain it better than i can, but it is the tuning i use for my purpose.
[23:22] <arrrghhh> crap
[23:23] <arrrghhh> well i don't have x11vnc on this machine.  are there man pages online?  like where i don't have to install anything?
[23:23] <mlsoft> i manage all my clients with this method , even those who are thosand of miles away, with almost full speed interaction
[23:23] <aaroncampbell> Well, it seems that I messed up my user account.  I wanted to add a group to it (avg), but ran this command: sudo usermod -G avg aaroncampbell
[23:23] <aaroncampbell> It seems that rather than add a new group, it removed all my old ones and replaced them with avg. Now I don't have sudo permissions.
[23:23] <aaroncampbell> Is there any way to find out what groups I was part of before?  Or is there a way to see what groups I started as a part of?
[23:24] <fliegenderfrosch> i have a strange problem: when i use the volume keys on my thinkpad, it says "it seems that kmix is not running" and opens kmix. the volume is changed, but inside kmix nothing changes. anyone an idea?
[23:24] <aaroncampbell> I honestly don't know how I'm going to get sudo access back, but I need to
[23:24] <mlsoft> just do apt-get install x11vnc
[23:24] <arrrghhh> mlsoft, can't.  doin distro upgrade.  can't get a lock.
[23:25] <mlsoft> maybe on the x11vnc site ( found with google)
[23:25] <arrrghhh> this internet at this hotel is painfully slow too.  alright i'll try that.
[23:25] <arrrghhh> i just don't think i need all those switches
[23:25] <mlsoft> just check them in the man page, and you'll decide ...
[23:26] <mlsoft> some of those are for support purpose, and others are for speed purpose
[23:26] <mlsoft> and the -forever is important to be able to reconnect later
[23:27] <arrrghhh> yea, -forever is the only one that makes sense to me lol
[23:27] <mlsoft> the background of the remote is really slowing the response time
[23:27] <mlsoft> you can experience almost instantaneous results if no background
[23:28] <arrrghhh> oh no... ok so i changed my root password with "passwd".  now i'm tryin to change it back, and it says it's too short... i don't get why it let me create it in the first place if it was too short
[23:28] <mlsoft> reducing colors to 16 bits or 8 bits instead of 24, is really speeding the results
[23:29] <mlsoft> then support of online friends or remote access to your box, is really easy and fast.
[23:30] <arrrghhh> is there any way around that?  i don't get it.  i usually use a root password that's 5 characters.  it says it's too short.
[23:31] <RSC-232> im using nvidia 169.12 on a Nvidia 8500GT pci express. DVI is hooked up to a 19" LCD samsung syncmaster 930b.. anything past 640x480 is blurry
[23:35] <mlsoft> i usually have to confirm 3 times to set a password too short...
[23:38] <mlsoft> RSC-232: Maybe too high resolution, or too low...
[23:39] <RSC-232> nope native resolution
[23:39] <mlsoft> which one, >1024x768 ??
[23:46] <octox2_> will pulseadio be the default in kubuntu aslo, like it is going to be in ubuntu?
[23:47] <BluesKaj_> I need to extract ISO video image files to mpeg2 to view them on my Tivo. Kiso won't work , any suggestions ?
[23:48] <Dragnslcr> octox2_- I don't think that's specific to KDE, so I would guess that Kubuntu would follow Ubuntu. I'm just guessing though
[23:51] <octox2_> Dragnslcr: yea, i was wondering because the way sound is sent to alsa in gnome is a little different than in KDE i read, but not sure
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> Could be
[23:52] <Dragnslcr> I didn't even know about the change, I'm just guessing that the sound system is something that would be the same in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[23:53] <octox2_> Ive got it working in Deb and suse, kind of, but I cant figure out how to get it to output on both pcs at the same time, and if they work it all out and it is in the next realease of k or ubuntu, i might move back with yall again lol
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> octox2_- you could probably download the latest Hardy alpha LiveCD and see what sound system is running
[23:58] <lovre> is there a way to change the default window manager in kde?