[00:00] <mrglinux> a absorbing things and problem in my ubuntu 7.10  ..my volume partion doesnt appear and change to sda ...   also log out windows doesnt show and hang system ..also my flash memory doesn mount automaticly ..but when i run this command i sudo /etc/init.d/dhcdbd restart  after that  "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" my probelm solved ... what is my probelm?
[00:00] <anteaya__> ccharles`: any idea how i fix it?
[00:00] <il3dsm> Hello, do any of you know any java-related IRC channels?
[00:00] <mrglinux> anyone read?
[00:01] <ccharles`> anteaya__: not sure what's wrong. here's what you should see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59759/
[00:01] <ccharles`> anteaya__: you could try reinstalling zip and unzip...
[00:01] <mrglinux> ???
[00:01] <mrglinux> ask again?
[00:01] <anteaya__> ccharles`: how?
[00:02] <ccharles`> anteaya__: um... command-line, KDE or Gnome?
[00:02] <tux97> how do u isntall ndiswrapper?
[00:02] <amenado> il3dsm-> on undernet there are the nicer #java folks
[00:02] <myusername> what irc client do you guys recommend i use in gnome?
[00:02] <DIL> matt444, you would have to know the header and footer of the file you are hiding
[00:02] <anteaya__> ccharles`: command line is my preference and i also have Gnome
[00:02] <matt444> DIL: header and footer?
[00:03] <coax> 443
[00:03] <mrglinux> a absorbing things and problem in my ubuntu 7.10  ..my volume partion doesnt appear and change to sda ...   also log out windows doesnt show and hang system ..also my flash memory doesn mount automaticly ..but when i run this command i sudo /etc/init.d/dhcdbd restart  after that  "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" my probelm solved ... what is my probelm?
[00:03] <DIL> matt444, yea every file has a header and footer ie jpg is ffd8 and ffd9 respectively
[00:04] <soneil> how do I log / debug a (repeatable) kernel panic ?    so far all I have to go on is a photo of terminal noise  ("do_page_fault" and such, looks like kernel noise)
[00:04] <ccharles`> anteaya__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59760/
[00:04] <DIL> matt444, you would note the starting sector (using a hex editor) whetre ffd8 is located and then where ffd9 is loacted and extract it
[00:05] <anteaya__> ccharles`: will try
[00:05] <DIL> matt444, i think xxd would make you see a file in hex
[00:06] <Ashfire908> I enabled PPP compression in the peers file, how can i tell if the connection is actually compressed?
[00:07] <Moppa> Is it just me that can't download the ubunty
[00:07] <RGadelha> Have any program like Ventrilo Client for Linux ?
[00:07] <Moppa> u package of skype?
[00:07] <Moppa> typo :/
[00:08] <amenado> Ashfire908-> put it in debug mode during connection and see if the handshake says its compressing?
[00:08] <il3dsm> amenado: Thanks
[00:08] <ccharles`> RGadelha: it looks like Ventrillo (whatever it is) is available for Linux: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[00:09] <Ashfire908> amenado, i'll try that in a sec, i'm currently using the connection
[00:09] <amenado> il3dsm okay good luck
[00:09] <kee> thanks amenado... My problem was the strangest thing... I could not understand why I'm able to talk to you on vmware guest machine hosted of a machine that would not get out to the internet anylonger.
[00:10] <anteaya__> ccharles`: http://pastie.caboo.se/166199
[00:10] <RGadelha> ccharles`, but in this page don't have anyone client for Linux, just server
[00:10] <amenado> kee its possible, vmnet uses a different gateway?
[00:11] <ccharles`> RGadelha: ah, my bad. I looked at the about page, and I don't know of any equivalent for Linux, but I'm not a gamer.
[00:11] <kee> amenado it uses the same gateway
[00:11] <mustafa> has anyone installed VMWARE on ubuntu and tried to get into the windows side of the world??
[00:11] <RGadelha> ccharles`,  :P
[00:11] <kee> amenado The gateway on my ubuntu host just dropped after I rebooted for some reason.
[00:11] <amenado> kee to verify it, you have to dig under /proc
[00:12] <ccharles`> anteaya__: it looks like another update process (Synaptic, Adept, apt-get, etc.) is running somewhere.
[00:12] <kee> amenado dig under /proc? I
[00:12] <amenado> kee-> paste all the same question i asked earlier
[00:12] <anteaya__> ccharles`: sorry i had synaptic open i will try again
[00:12] <kee> I'm a newbie... sorry about the extra line
[00:12] <scone> My ethernet card isn't being recongized correctly. Uses nVidia controller, but I believe it is a pheonix chipset
[00:12] <mustafa> rumor has it that VMware may slow down ur computer
[00:13] <amenado> scone-> nVidia for ethernet? those are normally video chips..are you sure?
[00:13] <DIL> mustafa, i think there are vmworlds  with windows os from the vm site
[00:13] <The_Dr> "illegal instruction (core dumped)" when tryin to start openarena on a PPC, any hints as to whats going wrong?
[00:14] <scone> Yes, nvidia network controller, Amenado
[00:14] <anteaya__> ccharles`: is downloading which will take some time -- dial up
[00:14] <kee> Have a good day all.  Thanks again
[00:14] <DIL> mustafa, just download it
[00:14] <soneil> amenado, nvidia's nforce chipset is gaining ground on motherboards
[00:15] <mustafa> i wish NVIDIA WILL GO OPEN SOURCE
[00:15] <amenado> soneil-> is it really? sad if they cant make it work though
[00:15] <scone> Thing is ubuntu keeps incrementing my eth0 everytime I restart. I'm on eth12 right now.
[00:15] <ghettowhiteboy> i'm on a p133 32mb ram and 2gb hdd(1gb free) is there any way i can fit ubuntu on here?
[00:15] <scone> It changes my mac address everytime too
[00:15] <soneil> amenado, really sad.   having a non-free chipset is kind of painful
[00:16] <DIL> mustafa, i would use the source files from vmware website
[00:16] <amenado> scone-> can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file and ifconfig; and route -n  in pastebin please
[00:16] <scone> sure
[00:17] <Carbonflux> mustafa, depending on what happens with amd/ati nvidia might be "forced" to go open source
[00:18] <Carbonflux> the next year will be interesting
[00:18] <scone> amenado, I'm using wifi right now so the route table won't be acurate for my ethernet
[00:18] <RickKnight> still need help with Gutsy upgrade. Boot after upgrade drops to busybox shell. No HDs created. Help
[00:19] <amenado> scone-> oh okay.. also kind of curious what you have in your /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/net/
[00:19] <scone> sure
[00:20] <anteaya__> ccharles`: thanks for help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59764/  i was able to zip and unzip but still can't get the file I want, I don't understand, but i am done for the night, thank you
[00:20] <ccharles`> anteaya__: np. good luck :-)
[00:20] <amenado> RickKnight-> did you have to reboot after the upgrade?
[00:21] <RickKnight> No. The upgrade was OK, but no reboot prompt.
[00:21] <RickKnight> I rebooted a day later.
[00:21] <amenado> RickKnight-> what do you mean no reboot prompt? you have to initiate the reboot yes?
[00:21] <mustafa> can anyone tellme how i can switch out of this UBUNTU server?
[00:21] <mustafa> lol
[00:22] <amenado> RickKnight-> can you boot into recovery mode?
[00:22] <Rprp> Does someone know how i can get ustream.tv working? When i do 'Broadcast now' Firefox crashes. :(
[00:22] <Linux|CodeRed> hu
[00:22] <mustafa> i want to get into QUAKE NET
[00:22] <ghostlines> because ubuntu's iptables allows all trafic by default, i shouldn't have to setup any rules to run a vpn server right?
[00:22] <Linux|CodeRed> mustafa: ./server irc.quakenet.org
[00:22] <scone> amenado - http://pastebin.com/d26717889
[00:23] <RickKnight> I upgraded at terminal. When the upgrade was done it said upgrade successfull and left me at the prompt. No reboot. No recovery boot either.
[00:23] <amenado> ghostlines-> try..and let us know
[00:23] <RickKnight> I can boot to a prior kernel.
[00:23] <Stroganoff> will startup notifications ever be widely implemented in ubuntu?
[00:23] <amenado> RickKnight-> can you paste your  uname -r  and what are the contents of your /boot ?
[00:24] <mustafa> ok thanks
[00:24] <RickKnight> Let me reboot that machine.
[00:24] <hanophix33> can someone help me block photoshop from access the inet
[00:24] <amenado> scone i hope you are not making me guess what else is remaining on those files i asked for? if you have a sensitive passwd..just xxxx over it, but i cant make sense of cut-off info
[00:25] <nikrud> hanophix33: don't ask for help pirating software here, please
[00:25] <scone> amenado only one I cut off was the ifconfig, i'll output all of it
[00:25] <soneil> how can I find the cause of kernel panics?   I can't find any cores, or anything logged
[00:25] <RickKnight> amenado, I can see from the busybox shell that /dev/disk/ is not being created for my HDs.
[00:26] <hanophix33> nikrud: not pirated
[00:26] <amenado> scone for one, why do you have it at eth9 on your interfaces file?
[00:26] <nikrud> hanophix33: isn't that how adobe checks licensing?
[00:26] <hanophix33> nikrud:  no connection needed
[00:26] <amenado> RickKnight-> umm am more interested of what happened to your /boot directory contents and the running kernel version
[00:27] <scone> amenado, everytime I restart and ubuntu increments my eth up one. The only work around I found was to change it in the interfaces everytime i restart
[00:27] <mcquaid> !grub
[00:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:27] <hanophix33> nikrud:  my version is not pirated, that is not the point here, anyways
[00:27] <RickKnight> amenado, my /boot contains init images and kenels, also grub
[00:27] <nikrud> hanophix33: probably have better luck in a windows channel then
[00:27] <hanophix33> nikrud:  in wine
[00:27] <amenado> RickKnight-> i wanted to verify if they are same as you would if you type uname -r, dont let me guess please
[00:27] <scone> Amenado > updated the pastebin http://pastebin.com/m1c2146d
[00:28] <amenado> scone-> go ahead and start with eth0
[00:28] <akan01n> hi, im new to ubuntu, im running ubuntu with my tx1127 (tx1000) series, everything is set perfect im just browsing internet with firefox, after a period of time everything stops to work, like no internet and touchscreen is very very slow, anyone know what can be? something running after a period of time, some service
[00:29] <RickKnight> amenado, I can't see /boot from busybox.
[00:29] <amenado> scone things dont add up.. you have ath0 and also eth0?  explain the network layout you have, what interfaces, what is connected to what
[00:29] <RickKnight> I haven't tried uname -r from busybox. I will now, just give it a minute.
[00:29] <amenado> RickKnight-> so you are not able to boot at all? not even in recovery mode?
[00:30] <RickKnight> amenado, No, No boot except to the busybox shell.
[00:30] <mcquaid> how do i determine which drive the mbr was written to?
[00:30] <scone> amenado > right now I am connected via wireless using madwifi drivers. I believe that's where the ath0 comes from but i'm not positive.
[00:30] <amenado> akan01n-> do you have ipv6 running too? maybe the resolution of ip address is taking so long, it stalls your pc
[00:30] <RickKnight> amenado, I can still boot my prior Feisty kernel.
[00:31] <hanophix33> Is there a GIMP channel?
[00:31] <scone> amenado > Ethernet wise I plug straight into my modem, nothing else on the network.
[00:31] <nikrud> hanophix33: irc.gnome.org, #gimp
[00:31] <amenado> RickKnight-> you dont get a menu to select which kernel to boot from or recovery mode at boot?
[00:31] <hanophix33> gracias
[00:31] <akan01n> amenado: yes..
[00:31] <amenado> RickKnight-> then you may have to boot from the old kernel, and lets look at what has been installed in your /boot and menu.lst entries
[00:32] <Jester> Does anyone have an idea why it would be possible to move windows between screen using xinerama, but _not_ the mouse pointer.. it doesn't make any sense. I'm using the latest xorg server, nvidia drivers, and not using twinview (plain old xinerama). If anyone cares to take a look: http://rafb.net/p/sUxqq893.html
[00:32] <amenado> scone-> yeah i think atheros uses madwifi..
[00:32] <scone> amenado > yeah it does
[00:32] <SpookyET> Banshee, Rhythmbox, or Sonata?
[00:32] <akan01n> amenado: dmesg shows, eth1: no IPv6 routers present, eth1 is the wifi
[00:32] <amenado> akan01n-> then you can disable your ipv6 and stick with ipv4 for now
[00:32] <RickKnight> amenado, Yes, I do get the Grub menu. I cannot boot the Gutsy kernel, normal or recovery. I can boot previous kernel
[00:32] <akan01n> amenado: how do i do that?
[00:32] <amenado> RickKnight-> then you may have to boot from the old kernel, and lets look at what has been installed in your /boot and menu.lst entries
[00:33] <ghettowhiteboy> i'm on a p133 32mb ram and 2gb hdd(1gb free) is there any way i can fit ubuntu on here?
[00:33] <RickKnight> amenado, Ok, I'm rebooting now.
[00:33] <amenado> akan01n-> turn them off in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[00:34] <jdh6403> hmmm
[00:35] <amenado> ghettowhiteboy-> try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[00:35] <s2a> wats the kernel version of Ubuntu 7.10 64-bit? (I want the 14.4 kbps linuxant hsf modem driver for it)
[00:35] <amenado> ghettowhiteboy-> i honestly dont think you can do much with it...but you can try and see how far you can go with it
[00:36] <Starnestommy> s2a: the version I have on mine is 2.6.22-14
[00:37] <ccharles`> s2a: run "uname -r"
[00:37] <amenado> scone-> you have modified the interfaces file yet to start from eth0 ?
[00:38] <s2a> Starnestommy, ccharles`, k, thx
[00:38] <RickKnight> amenado, I've rebooted and I'm looking at /boot. Gutsy installed initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic an initrd-2.6.22-14-geberic.bak
[00:38] <|ramon|> Hi folks, is there any generator for sources.list? I have been using Ubuntu 7.1, but I've faced some troubles to use aptitude.
[00:39] <scone> Amenado > What do you mean?
[00:39] <MilitantPotato> Anyone else get a chat invite from some kid named tribal?
[00:39] <amenado> RickKnight-> okay, is that all? how about in /boot/grub anything it installed there?  and what is your uname -r results now?
[00:39] <RickKnight> amenado, also config-2.6.22-14-generic, abi-2.6.22-14-generic, System.map-2.6.22-14-generic.
[00:40] <amenado> scone  start with eth0 and not eth9 on the /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:40] <RickKnight> and vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:40] <amenado> RickKnight-> i recognize those, they are same with my 7.10
[00:40] <scone> amenado > am I right to that auto eth0 should come before the iface line?
[00:40] <RickKnight> uname -r  now is 2.6.20-generic
[00:41] <RickKnight> oops make that 2.6.20-16-generic
[00:41] <NForc3r> hey guys my sound isnt working after i tried to install my audio driver. help?
[00:41] <amenado> RickKnight-> also rename the initrd*.bak  to just  initrd....generic  basically take out the .bak
[00:41] <NForc3r> how do i return my audio driver to its original
[00:41] <RickKnight> amenado, nothing new in /grub except that menu.lst was modified
[00:41] <|ramon|> Hi folks, is there any generator for sources.list? I have been using Ubuntu 7.1, but I've faced some troubles to use aptitude.
[00:42] <NForc3r> ??
[00:42] <amenado> RickKnight-> i expected that, menu.lst will be modified.. can you paste it in pastebin?
[00:42] <amenado> !info source.list
[00:42] <ubotu> Package source.list does not exist in gutsy
[00:43] <amenado> |ramon|-> there is, i just dont know the link to it, can you try to google for it?
[00:43] <puller> java is not workign on addrive.com for me? any ideas?
[00:43] <RickKnight> amenado, I have initrd...-generic initrd...-generic.bak. do you want me to overwrite one?
[00:43] <RudyValencia> How much RAM (minimum) should a computer have in order to use an Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD?
[00:43] <Rprp> Does someone know any program that can 'record' my desktop and send it to ustream.tv?
[00:43] <scone> amenado may I open a Private chat with you?
[00:44] <RickKnight> amenado, can I paste from a different PC?
[00:44] <damaltor> hello everybody, im just setting up a small web server. could anyone help my by tiping a few ip numbers into his browser to try if it works? query please. thank you very much.
[00:44] <amenado> RickKnight-> no need, maybe just rename the .bak to something else
[00:44] <RudyValencia> Never mind, found my answer.
[00:44] <amenado> RickKnight-> sure..but we need to see the new menu.lst modified during the upgrade
[00:44] <|ramon|> amenado: the link is http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ but it doesn't load!
[00:44] <_polto_> hello all
[00:45] <damaltor> !query
[00:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about query - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:45] <RickKnight> amenado, How can I paste from the other PC. Pastebin? How do I do that?
[00:45] <damaltor> wasnt there something that queries arent possible here? or was that earlier?
[00:45] <amenado> |ramon|-> it just say it can not be found... google for some more please
[00:46] <mustafa> 128MGS of ram is enough
[00:46] <mustafa> for running the UBUNTU LIVE CD
[00:46] <scone> amenado http://pastebin.com/d454dc3b6
[00:46] <mustafa> if you want you can use the light version of UBUNTU CALLED XUBUNTU
[00:46] <Pelo> damaltor, maybe the bot was down, it's back up now
[00:46] <akan01n> amenado: ok, ipv6 off, let see if the problem is gone
[00:46] <_polto_> could somebody help me to understand tg3 drivers? i have a 4 port card and would like to use the 4ports as separated eth cards or bind VLANs to individual ports, is where a way to do so pls?
[00:46] <amenado> RickKnight-> well you either have to copy the contents of your menu.lst file one line at a time or copy and paste?
[00:46] <rohit> which beryl thing do I download? on http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php, there are a lot of links
[00:46] <damaltor> !query
[00:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about query - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:46] <Ein2015b> im having problems getting ntpdate to work (i'd rather setup ntpd to work correctly)... keeps saying NTP socket is in use... when i run netstat -lnup as root i see that ntpd is currently running... but i init.d doesnt find the service... will somebody please walk me through fixing this to get the time/date working correctly?  thanks!
[00:46] <amenado> akan01n-> good luck
[00:47] <RickKnight> amenado, I can copy and paste. Let me log on from the other PC.
[00:47] <mustafa> beryl sucks
[00:47] <damaltor> Pelo: could you help me with my server? just try 3 adresses, nothing more... ;)
[00:47] <mustafa> try compiz fusion
[00:47] <rohit> uh...ok
[00:47] <Pelo> damaltor, I know nothing about servers, you'll have to be more precise about your question for me to even try and guess
[00:47] <hanophix33> My video card makes weird lines when i close and open windows
[00:48] <hanophix33> anyway to fix this
[00:48] <mustafa> what video card do you have?
[00:48] <amenado> scone kill that /var/run/dhcdbd.pid  and restart again
[00:48] <hanophix33> mustafa:  how do i find out?
[00:48] <scone> amenado > restart network right?
[00:48] <damaltor> Pelo: could you try to visit www.meinkleinetestdomain.com for me?
[00:48] <amenado> scone yes
[00:48] <Ein2015b> can somebody here help me fix my ntpd problem via CLI?
[00:48] <scone> amenado > kill by just typing kill and that address?
[00:49] <mustafa> go to system on ur UBUNTU and click on administrattiv tab
[00:49] <Pelo> damaltor, opening now , give it a minute
[00:49] <damaltor> Pelo: thx
[00:49] <mustafa> then you will find a graphics and video
[00:49] <mustafa> click on that
[00:49] <amenado> scone  kill -15 `cat /var/run/dhcdbd.pid`
[00:49] <Pelo> damaltor, can'T find server
[00:49] <mustafa> its called screens and graphics
[00:49] <mustafa> then it will promt ur password and then you enter it in and go
[00:49] <mustafa> it will tell you the type of driver that is running on ur ubuntu
[00:50] <hanophix33> its a ATI
[00:50] <hanophix33> Radeon
[00:50] <damaltor> Pelo: ok thanks. could you try 84.184.226.100?
[00:50] <mustafa> yea ATI is not really well programmed with ubuntu
[00:50] <hischild> there was a command to search inside all files in a given directory ... it was something along the lines of  << find . -type f | grep *searchstring* >> ... but what am i missing?
[00:50] <Freetekdiver> RULES
[00:50] <Rick_Knight> amenado,  Here's the new section of menu.lst added by Gutsy upgrade...
[00:50] <Pelo> damaltor,  Diese IP-Adresse wird mehrfach genutzt. Um die gew�nschte Website zu erreichen, geben Sie ihre Domain anstelle der IP-Adresse in der Adresszeile des Browsers ein.
[00:50] <mustafa> my brothers laptop runs SAVAGe SG3
[00:50] <Rick_Knight> ## ## End Default Options ##
[00:50] <Rick_Knight> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[00:50] <Rick_Knight> root            (hd1,4)
[00:50] <hanophix33> Mustafa:  any fixes though.....it gets really pixelized
[00:50] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> paste the whole thing in pastebin not here
[00:50] <damaltor> Pelo: ok thanks. that was all. :)
[00:50] <hischild> Rick_Knight, don't paste in here
[00:51] <amenado> !paste | Rick_Knight
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=cb18ce85-3710-4259-9abb-ce8a0ca67e13 ro quiet splash
[00:51] <RoAkSoAx> !pastebin |bRick_Knight
[00:51] <mustafa> which version of ubunt are you running?
[00:51] <ubotu> Rick_Knight: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> quiet
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> root            (hd1,4)
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=cb18ce85-3710-4259-9abb-ce8a0ca67e13 ro single
[00:51] <Rick_Knight> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:51] <FloodBot1> Rick_Knight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <ubotu> bplease see above
[00:51] <hischild> !pastebin | Rick_Knight
[00:51] <RoAkSoAx> !pastebin | Rick_Knight
[00:51] <scone> amenado > I got the same output, do i kill /var/run/dhcdbd.pid or /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid
[00:51] <hischild> that was uhm ... 5 times pastebin ? :P
[00:51] <mustafa> we should wait for the next release of ubuntu coming up next month
[00:51] <amenado> scone try to kill em both
[00:51] <amenado> scone wait,
[00:51] <tav0> excuse me
[00:51] <tav0> i need some help with my wireless card
[00:51] <scone> waiting
[00:52] <tav0> it doesn't work
[00:52] <amenado> scone  dhcdbd is for which? i dont think thats for dhclient
[00:52] <tav0> well i think it does
[00:52] <archangelpetro> has anybody here installed ogre32?
[00:52] <archangelpetro> 3d?
[00:52] <mustafa> are you running your pixelation on high res?
[00:52] <puller> can i get help with java, its not workign in firefox...
[00:52] <tav0> but ip adress and things like that
[00:52] <scone> amenado, I just killed that because it's the one you said haha
[00:52] <tav0> are empty
[00:52] <tav0> ust showing ox
[00:52] <tav0> 0
[00:52] <tav0> xD
[00:52] <hanophix33> mustafa:  is that geared to me?
[00:52] <amenado> scone oh well, you can restart it I guess
[00:53] <mustafa> yes
[00:53] <mustafa> one good thing about ubuntu
[00:53] <amenado> scone you are running a dhcp server?
[00:53] <mustafa> is you can do whatever you want to it
[00:53] <Rick_Knight> amenado, Here's the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59765/
[00:53] <mustafa> but regarding your issue with hardware
[00:53] <hanophix33> mustafa:   yes> 1024x768 is the highest i can get by default
[00:53] <scone> amenado, no
[00:53] <amenado> scone okay
[00:54] <mcquaid> there must be a way.  trying to figure out which drive grub wrote the mbr to ?
[00:54] <mustafa> then lets wait for the next release
[00:54] <mcquaid> how does one show drive info that indicates which drive currently has the mbr?
[00:54] <mustafa> maybe ur problem may get sollved :)
[00:54] <hanophix33> mustafa:  it just looks crappy.....
[00:54] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> and that does not show up on the menu when you boot? the new entries?
[00:54] <mustafa> are you able to run Compiz fusion?
[00:54] <hanophix33> is Wine going to get any better?
[00:55] <hanophix33> mustafa:  im running windows effects
[00:55] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> i really dislike it when you try to suppress info, can you paste the whole menu.lst so i can make head or tails of it?
[00:55] <hanophix33> mustafa:  desktop effects rather
[00:55] <Rick_Knight> amenado, yes the new entries do show up and when I select them I boot to the busybox shell.
[00:55] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> you can always write xxxx if you are using password
[00:56] <hanophix33> mustafa:  you are probably right on the weak graphics card,  its a IBM thnkpad for business not high graphics
[00:56] <mustafa> yea my bro has a IBM THINKPAD
[00:56] <mustafa> and its sad though
[00:56] <mustafa> cuz we cant run compiz fusion
[00:57] <mustafa> but his ubuntu still looks ok
[00:57] <Rprp> Does someone know any program that can 'record' my desktop and send it to ustream.tv?
[00:57] <mustafa> but not as sexy as mine
[00:57] <Rick_Knight> amenado, Not trying to supress anything, just trying to be breif. I'll paste the whole thing.
[00:57] <hischild_> Rick_Knight, USE PASTEBIN
[00:57]  * Pelo haz ad cheezburger 
[00:57] <Pelo> sorry couldn'T resist
[00:57] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> thanks..its better to see everything...also while at it, paste the contents of  /boot/grub/device.map
[00:57] <mustafa> i will admit i cant live without compiz fusion
[00:57] <_polto_> could somebody help me to understand tg3 drivers? i have a 4 port card and would like to use the 4ports as separated eth cards or bind VLANs to individual ports, is where a way to do so pls?
[00:57] <Invisionfree> Linux "ifconfig" = Windows "ipconfig" right?
[00:58] <hischild_> amenado, tell him to use pastebin please ... or pastebinit
[00:58] <amenado> Invisionfree-> yes
[00:58] <Invisionfree> amenado
[00:58] <hanophix33> mustafa:  i have mine on the least amount of effects because they get very bogged down......just to spice up the environment a bit
[00:58] <amenado> hischild-> he has been told already
[00:58] <Invisionfree>           inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0 <- From that, what is the Default Gateway
[00:58] <hanophix33> anyone know much about laptopmode
[00:58] <mustafa> INTEL..is really good with ubuntu
[00:58] <NForc3r> hey guys my sound isnt working after i tried to install my audio driver. help?
[00:58] <mustafa> because theyre drivers are all open source
[00:58] <amenado> Invisionfree-> its not specified from that
[00:58] <ccharles`> Invisionfree: ipconfig is not exactly like ifconfig
[00:59] <mustafa> so there is a good kernell written for it
[00:59] <amenado> Invisionfree-> type  route -n
[00:59] <mustafa> im hoping that NVIDIA will go OPEN source too
[00:59] <mustafa> it will make everyones life so much happy
[00:59] <puller> can i please get help with java on ubuntu?
[00:59] <amenado> scone where are we with that interfaces file?
[00:59] <Rick_Knight> amenado, here they are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59766/ & http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59767/
[00:59] <amenado> puller ask away..be clear and specific of your questions
[01:00] <Invisionfree> amenado, something...
[01:00] <Invisionfree> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 ath0
[01:00] <Invisionfree> Is what I get (Line 1 of 3)
[01:00] <puller> amenado: i am trying to use www.adrive.com and i con't use the uploader because its java, but i def have java installed....
[01:00] <amenado> Invisionfree-> no G  means no gateway
[01:01] <Invisionfree> amenado, The only one with a gateway: 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ath0
[01:01]  * Pelo needs to figure out how to play a kvcd.iso mounted with loop in a video player
[01:02] <amenado> Invision hard to read that, can you paste in pastebin the whole thing?
[01:02] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> are you sure you have hd1,4  has /boot/  and all those kernel and initrd files?
[01:02] <Invisionfree> amenado, I'm just gonna do it from my dads XP comp
[01:02] <beargins> hey im trying to install intel drivers for the x3100 but i keep getting this error:
[01:03] <beargins> ./configure: line 20486: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(XINERAMA, xineramaproto)'
[01:03] <amenado> Invisionfree-> please do, having it in one file and easy for everyone to read
[01:03] <beargins> and i have no clue what that means lol
[01:03] <Scunizi> puller, on reading the FAQ for adrive.. it looks like it needs active X.. if that's true.. it won't work in linux
[01:03] <Rick_Knight> amenado, Yes, I do have 2 eide drives and several older kernels.
[01:03] <amenado> puller what exactly is the issue? you can not visit that site?
[01:04] <beargins> somoene gimme a holler if you can help, thx
[01:04] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> what am saying is are you sure hd1,4 has the /boot that is referred on that menu.lst?
[01:04] <Invisionfree> amenado, This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5721/
[01:05] <Scunizi> puller, it also doesn't allow for FTP. you have to use a browser.
[01:05] <Rick_Knight> amenado, Unless the install changed something, yes hd1,4 is the boot device, /dev/hdb5
[01:05] <puller> amenado: the site works, but when i go to the uploader it doesnt load...
[01:06] <Rick_Knight> amenado, I pasted the contents of boot here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59769/
[01:06] <amenado> Invisionfree-> why line22? is line 18,19,20 in one same line?
[01:06] <_polto_> could somebody help me to understand tg3 drivers? i have a 4 port card and would like to use the 4ports as separated eth cards or bind VLANs to individual ports, is where a way to do so pls?
[01:06] <Scunizi> amenado, I looked at the FAQ for puller and the site might need activeX
[01:06] <Decepticon> is it possible for me to install on 128mb of ram ?
[01:06] <puller> Scunizi: the java uploader isnt working, any ideas on how i can get it to work
[01:06] <amenado> Scunizi-> thanks for covering for me..not sure what that site requires
[01:07] <amenado> puller i dont know what that site requires to xfer
[01:07] <Scunizi> puller, if the site needs active x as well as java.. well.. no go.. active x is windows only.
[01:07] <Rick_Knight> amenado, I can boot my prior kernel, the third and 4th entries, and they are on hd1,4
[01:07] <puller> brb
[01:08] <CorruptTerrorist> right... i was told to ask here by the peeps in #php ... i keep getting an error... http://deception.ath.cx/ i think it's a permissions problem
[01:08] <akan01n> to work with web dev, which package is the best? just the normal thing, apache+php+mysql, i have o apt-get install each one? apache php .... ?
[01:08] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> i find it odd that initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.X have different sizes
[01:09] <Rick_Knight> amenado, As far as I can tell, udev or whatever is responsible for creating devices isn't creating the HDs for the new kernel. The init image isn';t making the drives I guess.
[01:09] <CorruptTerrorist> !lamp | akan01n
[01:09] <ubotu> akan01n: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:09] <Invisionfree> amenado, No.
[01:09] <beargins> ./configure: line 20486: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(XINERAMA, xineramaproto) anyone know how to fix this?
[01:09] <hunkydory> phpmyadmin package contains everything people usually need
[01:09] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> paste what you got in /dev/dis  now
[01:09] <AwayCross> akan01n: You can probably use tasksel
[01:10] <akan01n> thanks
[01:10] <amenado> Invisionfree-> no what?  i have several questions..
[01:10] <Rick_Knight> amenado, It is odd, but the 2 prior init images are that way also.
[01:10] <ogre> was wonderinf if anyone could tell me how to add all things from a repo. do i have to do them individually?
 Invisionfree-> why line22? is line 18,19,20 in one same line?
[01:10] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> paste what you got in /dev/disk  now
[01:10] <Rick_Knight> amenado, I don't have /dev/dis
[01:10] <beargins> nvm
[01:10] <beargins> ill figure it out
[01:10] <amenado> Invisionfree-> those are two questions you answered with no
[01:11] <beargins> thx ubuntuheads
[01:11] <beargins> u all suck
[01:11] <beargins> jk :)
[01:11] <FloodBot1> beargins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <Invisionfree> No to is line 18-20 one line
[01:11] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> /dev/disk
[01:11] <beargins> shuttup
[01:11] <zocky> hi
[01:11] <beargins> your sentence was longer than mine Bothead
[01:11] <zocky> is there a way to change the screen resolution from the command line?
[01:11] <Rick_Knight> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59771/
[01:12] <amenado> Invisionfree-> its hard to tell, can you make sure they are commendted  out, line 18,19,20 and what about line 22?
[01:12] <nikrud> !attitude | beargins (the right people aren't always here for every question)
[01:12] <ubotu> beargins (the right people aren't always here for every question): The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:12] <Rick_Knight> amenado, /dev/disk does not get created when I boot Gutsy.
[01:12] <beargins> it was a joke
[01:12] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> i see..umm let me think
[01:12] <beargins> nikrud
[01:12] <beargins> it was a joke...
[01:12] <nikrud> beargins: bad taste joke ;)
[01:12] <beargins> just a joke buddy
[01:13] <beargins> sorry
[01:13] <beargins> ill watch it from here on out ^_^
[01:13] <mustafa> hello has anyone installed ELISA??
[01:13] <mustafa> please tellme about it
[01:13] <Invisionfree> ELISA?
[01:13] <mustafa> once i get my HARDY HERON
[01:13] <mustafa> its simmiliar to a mac ozx front show
[01:14] <_zed> unetbootin failed when i tried installing hardy
[01:14] <_zed> i was sad :(
[01:14] <nikrud> beargins: and just in case you didn't realize it, it was a bot that told you about flooding, they are hard to insult. People that know the intel drivers come thru here regularly, don't give up. Your error message is good info for when they do.
[01:14] <java> /who
[01:14] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> if you are sure  hd1,4 is where you have the new updated kernel vmlinuz and initrd, you can   grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sdb5
[01:14] <amenado> Rick_Knight-> be back in a few.. have to do something
[01:14] <Pelo> _zed, ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:14] <Scunizi> mustafa, you might be better off with VLC.. it's more mature..
[01:14] <mustafa> i know
[01:14] <mustafa> but ELISA is a media center
[01:15] <mustafa> thats similiar to front show in MACOSX
[01:15] <beargins> i know man, thats why i called him a Bothead lol, yea it would be nice for the archives if the question got answered, but oh well, ill figure it out
[01:15] <RequinB8> !patience
[01:15] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:15] <mustafa> i try my best to assimlate my ubuntu to a mac osx lol
[01:16] <beargins> its all good brotha :)
[01:16] <beargins> or sister
[01:16] <beargins> lol
[01:16] <beargins> no worries
[01:16] <mustafa> screw mac leopard when you can use ubuntu
[01:16] <beargins> yea
[01:16] <beargins> tell em mustafa
[01:16] <Scunizi> mustafa, looks like they might have a deb for ubuntu.
[01:16] <mustafa> and ubuntu will look simiilar to mac osx lepoard
[01:16] <RequinB8> beargins - please, one line, keep it support, do you have a question?
[01:16] <mustafa> they do
[01:16] <mustafa> but its still not worked out yet
[01:16] <Rick_Knight> amenado, do you mean grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdb5
[01:17] <mustafa> thast why im asking if anyone has been having problems with it or has installed it
[01:17] <nikrud> RequinB8: he does, he's been asking (and asking with good info, too :)
[01:17] <beargins> oh we cant just talk here?
[01:17] <Invisionfree> How do I start SSH-server
[01:17] <nikrud> beargins: #ubuntu-offtopic is the talk channel
[01:17] <Pelo> beargins, it kind of interfeers with the support
[01:17] <mustafa> i run VLC
[01:17] <beargins> alrighty boss...
[01:17] <mustafa> and infact i love it too
[01:18] <mustafa> MPLAYER is also really good on my GNOME desktop
[01:18] <RequinB8> !offtopic | beargins, for non-support
[01:18] <ubotu> beargins, for non-support: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:18] <Scunizi> mustafa, ah ok.. well.. I haven't used it.. looks interesting though
[01:18] <mustafa> yeap
[01:18] <ccharles`> Invisionfree: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd start
[01:18] <racarter> has anyone here installed ubuntu 7.10 on parallels on mac?
[01:18] <ogre> anyone tell me how to list packages on a specific repo? or preferrably how to add all the packages from said repo
[01:18] <racarter> it doesn't seem to work for me
[01:19] <Invisionfree> ccharles`, invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/sshd not found. What do I need to install?
[01:19] <Invisionfree> !sshd
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <ccharles`> Invisionfree: oh, sorry it may be openssh-server or something.
[01:19] <ccharles`> hang on.
[01:19] <Pelo> ogre, when using synaptic, you can sort by sources ,  check the buttons on the bottom left
[01:19] <nikrud> Invisionfree: its' ssh , not sshd you want to start
[01:19] <Rprp> Does someone know any program that can 'record' my desktop and send it to ustream.tv?
[01:19] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, maybe openssh-server
[01:19] <ogre> Pelo,  cool, i havent used synaptic in ages but seems like a good plan
[01:20] <Pelo> Rprp, "recordmydesktop" for the first part , the other part you'll have to figure out
[01:22] <Invisionfree> It says OK, but ps -C ssh doesnt find anything
[01:22]  * Pelo managed to convert bin/cue to iso, to mount the iso , but he can't play it , it's a kvcd and xine won't see it , even if it is mounted to /media/cdrom0
[01:22] <ccharles`> Invisionfree: nikrud is right, it's ssh
[01:22] <nikrud> Invisionfree: the process is called sshd
[01:22] <Cyr4x> how to play games in wine on full screen?
[01:23] <Pelo> Cyr4x, ask in #winehq
[01:23] <Cyr4x> i can run them only in desktop window now
[01:23] <adrian_2002ca> any help on gutsy persistance?
[01:23] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, persistance of what ?
[01:23] <adrian_2002ca> live cd persistance
[01:24] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, hmmm
[01:24] <ianoshorty> can anyone help me - i was attmempting to setup dual screens, not only can i not get it to work but im now stuck in low graphics mode with no idea how to get out :S
[01:24] <Invisionfree> Can anyone ssh to 12.203.90.214
[01:24] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, would custom live cd be of any help ?
[01:25] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, do u know if it works now? naw, i mean not custom, but just persistant usb or hard drive
[01:25] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, port 22 is default and connection refused.. router? is port forwarding setup?
[01:25] <Invisionfree> Scunizi, I'm working on that, thanks for test :P
[01:25] <VoiDeT> is there a requirement on ubuntuforums.org before you can create a topic? I never got an activation e-mail, but i can log in....but i cant post
[01:25] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, np
[01:26] <nikrud> ianoshorty: you can get back to the default setup with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , it'll make a backup of what you have
[01:26] <Scunizi> VoiDeT, not really.. once you're logged in you should be able to post.
[01:26] <mitch_> hey does anyone know why dhcp won't work on my ath0
[01:26] <ianoshorty> nikrud, thanks il give it a try
[01:26] <Invisionfree> Scunizi, once again?
[01:26] <Scunizi> k
[01:26] <VoiDeT> Scunizi: thats what i thought.
[01:27] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, I you can possibly edit fstab and add a line to mount your usb to /home , would that help ?
[01:27] <VoiDeT> but then i get: voidet, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
[01:27] <VoiDeT> :(
[01:27] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, connection refused.. I'm just doing ssh <IP>.. if that's the right way.
[01:27] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, I havent tought of that thanx
[01:28] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, you might set it up for a different port.. some ISP's might block 22
[01:28] <ianoshorty> nikrud, im still in low graphics mode - any more ideas? all i did was change me xorg.conf file
[01:28] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, doing a port scan on your IP now.
[01:28] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, but what I had in mind would have let you make a customized live cd with the apps you want and with the appropriate fstab line already in there so it would boot with it everytime, I just can't find it ,  I recommend googleing for   ubuntu custom livecd
[01:29] <nikrud> ianoshorty: you logged out and back in?
[01:29] <ianoshorty> no just cntr shift backspace
[01:29] <ianoshorty> il log out and back it
[01:29] <nikrud> ianoshorty: same thing, that's fine
[01:29] <Scunizi> Invisionfree, no open ports so far.. I've gotta take a break. bbl
[01:30] <bluefoxx> hey, anyone know weather this>http://www.positiveesolutions.com/store/baby-arena-bays-scsi-raid-solution-p-824757.html will work in ubuntu in RAID5?
[01:30] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, although my question was more along the lines of did they get persistance fixed in gutsy as seen here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:30] <ianoshorty> nikrud, so no point restarting then?
[01:30] <nikrud> ianoshorty: put the output of    lspci | grep -i vga  ,   /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and /var/log/Xorg.0.log   on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:30] <cirilo> greetings! is there a way to open .pub files (microsoft publisher) ??
[01:30] <RickKnight> amenado, I ran grub-install /dev/hdb5 ( had to drop --root-directory=) but that made no difference
[01:30] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, ic,  no idea then
[01:30] <ianoshorty> nikrud, kk sec
[01:30] <nikrud> ianoshorty: nope, ctl-alt-backspace restarts X
[01:30] <Housefly7k> hi guys, is it possible to be connected both to ethernet and wireless at the same time?
[01:31] <Housefly7k> trying to access an extra router and change setting but would like to browse through wireless
[01:31] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, thanks anyway, that seems like a cool option with the custom
[01:31] <amenado> RickKnight-> why did you drop the --root-directory? thats part of the telling it to install the grub in the right place
[01:31] <RickKnight> amenado, Uname -r on Gutsy kernel give 2.6.22-14-generic.
[01:32] <amenado> RickKnight-> thats what i expected it to by once you are in gutsy
[01:32] <Stroganoff> is there no more "low memory mode" in hardy when installing on 64 mb ram?
[01:32] <beargins> i shall return ty guys :)
[01:32] <RickKnight> amenado, I dropped that because it gave a location of /boot/boot and couldn't find stage 2.
[01:32] <Stroganoff> my installation stalls at "generating locales", 75%
[01:32] <bluefoxx>  i keep trying to mount it but it tells me theres a problem...does raid even work in ubuntu?
[01:32] <Pelo> Stroganoff, for hardy stuff ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <Stroganoff> sry
[01:32] <Pelo> Stroganoff, never
[01:32] <ChoboMog> Could someone please help me with setting up the SCIM panel/window for Japanese and Simplified Chinese?
[01:32] <Fryguy--> bluefoxx: raid works fine in ubuntu
[01:32] <ChoboMog> So far, I've setup the System>Administration>Language Support by checking off (installing)the two languages plus English, and also checking the box for inputting complex characters.
[01:33] <ChoboMog> I also have the SCIM logo (a small keyboard) showing up in the tray.  However, no options appear to switch to another input type, and when right-clicking on the logo only a menu with "SCIM Setup" "Reload Configuration" etc appear.
[01:33] <amenado> RickKnight-> what exactly do you have on your /dev/sdb5 ? /boot/boot? then yah remove one /boot  and make sure the vmlinuz and initrd is in /boot not in /boot/boot
[01:33] <ChoboMog> In previous versions of Ubuntu, there was either a floating bar or a bar within the tray which had all of these language options, very similar to the language Bar in Windows. I just can't get that to show up
[01:33] <norty> how do i send a message to another user connected to the same computer running ubuntu 7.10 ?
[01:33] <Fryguy--> norty: wall works
[01:33] <jetscreamer> or talk
[01:33] <norty> whats the command?
[01:33] <RickKnight> amenado, still not in Gutsy. Busybox. I can see another message I missed before. "run program: 'sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit.
[01:33] <bluefoxx> Fryguy--: do i need to do anything to make http://www.positiveesolutions.com/store/baby-arena-bays-scsi-raid-solution-p-824757.html work? its a external 68 pin running 3x 6.4 gig drives in raid5
[01:34] <jetscreamer> 'duh
[01:34] <amenado> RickKnight-> then you also have to check that /dev/sdb5 had the /boot/grub/stageX  files
[01:34] <Fryguy--> bluefoxx: probably not
[01:34] <Pelo> ChoboMog, that's a pannel app now,  rightclick the pannel,  select add to panel,  see towards the bottom of the list
[01:34] <Leeuw> I have problem loading synaptic after gparted actions; says it can't load packetlist.   tells me to do something, I do it, don't work.   Now what ?  Need it to fix things !
[01:34] <amenado> RickKnight-> what did you modify since you pasted stuff?
[01:34] <RickKnight> amenado, my drive is /dev/hdb, not /dev/sdb.
[01:34] <Pelo> Leeuw, what does it tell you to do ?
[01:35] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: it's external, right? did you use the RAID tools to build the RAID and format it and everything?
[01:35] <Leeuw> lemme check
[01:35] <RickKnight> amenado, my only modification was running grub install.
[01:35] <bluefoxx> i hotpluged it into my sys using "sudo scsiadd -a 02" and then im trying to do "sudo mount /dev/sdc /home/bluefoxx/baby/" to mount it
[01:35] <richard__> i'm using firefox to learn to code smarty and i keep seeing the code for symbols, stuff like "&lt;" instead of "<" how do I see the "<" ?
[01:35] <amenado> RickKnight-> on 7.10 it renames everything to /dev/sd   i dont know why
[01:35] <vedat> hi
[01:35] <Ace2016_> Hi all
[01:35] <Ace2016_> How do i do the thing which shows when someone was last seen here?
[01:35] <ianoshorty> nikrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59772/ is the paste
[01:35] <CorruptTerrorist> ok who signed up on my site?
[01:35] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: yes, it is indeed external, i used the built in stuff to config it and it formatted itself
[01:35] <nikrud> ianoshorty: looking
[01:35] <zocky> how do I check which graphics driver is currently running?
[01:35] <amenado> RickKnight-> well you remove the --root-directory option, so it did not install in the correct place
[01:35] <Fryguy--> richard__: code correctly and it will show up correctly
[01:36] <RickKnight> amenaod, OK, I'm rebooting now.
[01:36] <richard__> Fryguy--: its not me coding!
[01:36] <Pelo> Ace2016_,  !seen nick  but that only works if someone has a bot with that script running
[01:36] <zocky> i have fglrx installed, but I think it's not loading correctly
[01:36] <richard__> Fryguy--: im looking at examples
[01:36] <realadxm> is it ok to ask beginner questions here ?
[01:36] <Pelo> realadxm, we prefer those, they are easy
[01:36] <Ace2016_> !seen Ace2016
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ace2016 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <CorruptTerrorist> !seen Hello
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <RickKnight> amenado, so I need --rot-directory=/
[01:36] <Leeuw> sorry, mistake: synaptic sez: E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[01:36] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: do you have another system that you can test with to make sure the RAID is configured correctly?
[01:36] <Leeuw> E: Fout tijdens verwerken van onboard (UsePackage2)
[01:36] <Leeuw> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:36] <Leeuw> E: De pakketlijst of statusbestand kon niet worden ingelezen.
[01:36] <Leeuw> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:36] <Leeuw> , install/remove sez: controleer de toegangsrechten en correctheid van het bestand  '/etc/apt/sources.list' en herlaad de pakketinformatie met 'sudo apt-get update' en 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[01:36] <FloodBot1> Leeuw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <nikrud> ianoshorty: ok, now system->admin->restricted manager , enable the ati restricted driver and reboot
[01:36] <amenado> RickKnight-> try it..
[01:36] <jetscreamer> zocky: glxinfo or fglrxinfo in an xterm
[01:36] <Leeuw> sorry for dutch ;-)
[01:36] <Pelo> Ace2016_, so noon has a seen script,  you're out of luck
[01:36] <Leeuw> sorry !
[01:37] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: there shouldn't be much that you have to do to get it working, aside from setting up the RAID and filesystem.
[01:37] <zocky> jetscreamer, that crashes
[01:37] <ianoshorty> nikrud, thanks, brb
[01:37] <RickKnight> amenado, OK, but still booting.......
[01:37] <ChoboMog> Pelo-> Do you know the name of the Panel App?  I've tried Keyboard Indicator and Character Palette...neither seem to be it, and no others seem to be related to SCIM or languages
[01:37] <jetscreamer> zocky: then you're right, your driver installation is fuxored
[01:37] <zocky> jetscreamer, fglrxinfo says Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[01:37] <FJSS> Every time I boot up my computer and the desktop loads I get the message "Enter password for default keyring to unlock". I enter my root password and everything works fine. How do I stop it from asking me every time I turn on my computer??
[01:37] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: no...itruns on firmwarez and i only have one adaptor that has 68 pin...and its on my main computer[i use a 4 gig scsi for docs]
[01:37] <CorruptTerrorist> who has the ip 165.91.100.14
[01:37] <Ketsuban> Could anyone point me in the right direction to set my system up for compiling C to run on a 68k? I'm looking to develop for the Megadrive.
[01:37] <realadxm> i'm currently using windows xp but i'd like to make the switch to ubuntu, my only concern is i have alot of microsoft office files, are they compatible with openoffice or another equivalent and would people still using ms office be able to open my files from openoffice ?
[01:37] <Pelo> Leeuw, try this in the terminal,    sudo apt-get update , hope it fixes any repos issues but I think you might have screwed up synaptic
[01:37] <jetscreamer> zocky: all i know i prever nvidia
[01:37] <ronandi> everytime I start ubuntu, it says that it cant find my vid card and is running in low graphics mode. when ubuntu starts, its in 800*600, and I have to change it. How can I fix?
[01:37] <Ace2016_> !seen MasterAslan
[01:38] <Fryguy--> realadxm: openoffice is quite good at being compatible with other office suties
[01:38] <jetscreamer> fer
[01:38] <ronandi> ive got an Nvidia 8800gts btw
[01:38] <Pelo> ChoboMog,  I was tinking of the keyboard indicator , maybe it's an extra little app you need to install,  do a search in synaptic for related keywords
[01:38] <Odd-rationale> Fryguy--: you mean *the* other office suite
[01:38] <nikrud> ronandi: as i understand it, you have to install the driver from the nvidia site to use the 8xxx series
[01:38] <mitch__> anyone know why my card won't get a ip anymore using dhclient? I use madwifi?
[01:38] <bluefoxx> actually...fdisk -l claims all my sata/scsi disks dont have a valid parition table...even though my 80 gig sata and 4 gig scsi all work perfectly fine
[01:39] <Fryguy--> Odd-rationale: yah, sure whatever.  not really a meaningful contribution to the question, but sure
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> Fryguy--: jk
[01:39] <RickKnight> amenado, I've booted to Feisty. I ran grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sdb5. I get /dev/sdb5 not found.
[01:39] <Pelo> Leeuw, actualy you might want to try and reinstall synaptic,    sudo apt-get remove synaptic --purge ,  after that  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:39] <ronandi> nikrud: where can I find that driver?
[01:39] <realadxm> thanks Fryguy--
[01:39] <nikrud> ronaldo: nvidia.com
[01:39] <Voelund> Is there any good FTP Servers i can download and run on my Normal ubuntu gutsy client?
[01:39] <nikrud> !ftpd | Voelund
[01:39] <ubotu> Voelund: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[01:39] <Fryguy--> Voelund: proftpd is a de facto ftpd choice
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> Voelund: filezilla is one
[01:39] <Leeuw> -Pelo I tried what you said, doesn't work
[01:39] <amenado> RickKnight-> Feisty maybe naming it still as /dev/hdb5  its the 7.10 that uses /dev/sdbX
[01:40] <Voelund> Okay, thanks everyone!
[01:40] <RickKnight> amenado, grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/hdb5 runs.
[01:40] <Pelo> Leeuw, did you see my second instruction ?
[01:40] <Fryguy--> amenado: hdx is ide, sdx is sata/scsi
[01:40] <Leeuw> -pelo I will try that, thanks !
[01:40] <amenado> Fryguy---> nope  try it on 7.10 and all are name sdyX
[01:40] <nikrud> amenado: many disk/controller systems use sdX , but mine still use hdX
[01:40] <Leeuw> pelo yes pelo, I did, I will try !
[01:40] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: I haven't used that particular product, but the RAID should be essentially invisible to Ubuntu. It should show up as one drive. As long as the SCSI card works, you should be able to access it.
[01:41] <Fryguy--> amenado: that's not true
[01:41] <mitch__> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:41] <Leeuw> I can't seem to get highlights, soory ! --- explain ?
[01:41] <ianoshorty> nikrud, thanks a lot mate, that sorted it - i have spent AGES trying to get dual screen to work with this, any ideas?
[01:41] <amenado> Fryguy---> possibly, as noted some uses different naming..
[01:41] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: it does show up as one drive, a 12 gig volume...do i have to format it myself in gparted?
[01:41] <s2a> is it possible to run a command promp thing of xp in ubuntu 7.10 thru wine?
[01:41] <nikrud> ianoshorty: supposedly running amdcccle  gives control over that, but I don't have dual monitors
[01:41] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone familiar with jailkit?
[01:42] <Fryguy--> s2a: probably, also take a look at just virtualizing an entire windows xp session using something like virtualbox
[01:42] <Invisionfree> vm > s2a
[01:42] <Invisionfree> Oh
[01:42] <ianoshorty> nikrud, is that a package?
[01:42] <Pelo> s2a, try asking in #winehq
[01:42] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: yes, you'll have to format it. after using the RAID tools to build the RAID you basically get an unpartitioned, unformatted disk.
[01:42] <nikrud> ianoshorty: you should be able to run it from a terminal
[01:42] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: waht do you think of the product? doesnt look to bad huh? and besides that, i now have a use for all my old EDO RAM
[01:42] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: you'll have to partition it and format the partitions.
[01:42] <NForc3r> I have a problem with my sound can someone help me
[01:42] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: ah, that would help i suppose
[01:42] <Leeuw> -pelo tried to purge synaptic, didn't go, sez something with  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:42] <ianoshorty> nikrud, cheers, il give that a go, feels like ive tried everything else
[01:42] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: not until you ask a question
[01:42] <s2a> Fryguy--, Invisionfree, ill try vmware cuz i had problems with sharing files
[01:42] <Pelo> Leeuw, close synaptic first
[01:42] <mustafa> HAS ANYONE HERE
[01:43] <RickKnight> amenado, looks like grub installed OK. Anything I should check before I boot?
[01:43] <Leeuw> aha !
[01:43] <Fryguy--> s2a: i would highly recommend using virtualbox instead of vmware
[01:43] <Pelo> mustafa,  we can read smallcase
[01:43] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: yeah, it looks alright. I'm not familiar with the brand, but for $200 it seems good.
[01:43] <Invisionfree> Fryguy--, I would highly recommend you grow a brain.
[01:43] <amenado> RickKnight-> nothing i can think off of hand
[01:43] <mustafa> opps
[01:43] <NForc3r> i tried to install the audio driver for my audio card (it already worked by default) and now i dont get any sound. how do i revert back to my original sound driver. or fix the current sound driver
[01:43] <ChoboMog> Pelo-> Yeah, they keyboard indicator seems to be for changing layouts between US/English, European/English, etc layouts rather than input methods
[01:43] <mitch__> hello
[01:43] <Fryguy--> Invisionfree: lol, that was unwarranted.  Any particular reason why you are provoking me for no reason?
[01:43] <mitch__> any ideas on my wireless problem
[01:43] <nikrud> hahahah Invisionfree Fryguy-- 's been here and helpful for ages
[01:43] <Invisionfree> VMware is fine, Fryguy-- <.<
[01:44] <Invisionfree> Thats why Fryguy-- :P
[01:44] <ianoshorty> nikrud, nah all i get is an error : Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:44] <Fryguy--> Invisionfree: i never said it wasn't fine, i said I would recommend using virtualbox instead
[01:44] <Invisionfree> Why?
[01:44] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: i paid 20+ a 256 ram stick[second hand] all i need to do is get a proper external cable, instead of the ancient internal one im using XD
[01:44] <ChoboMog> Pelo->  I just checked Synaptic Packages (and add/remove programs for good measure)....most of the SCIM options were installed, but I added the few which werent.  Even after doing that and reloading my SCIM config, it doesn't appear to have changed
[01:44] <Fryguy--> Invisionfree: vmware is a fine product, but for a standard single user desktop application, virtualbox offers a much more comprehensive feature set for people who are only playing around with virtualization.
[01:44] <nikrud> ianoshorty: do you have the driver from ati downloaded? I've never had use of it, so any issues with it I don't know
[01:44] <nikrud> ianoshorty: amdcccle issues, that is
[01:45] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: cool, I hope it works for you.
[01:45] <NForc3r> ??
[01:45] <Pelo> ChoboMog,  in the scim gui applet is there not an option to display someting on the desktop ? if you get my meaning ?
[01:45] <Fryguy--> Invisionfree: notably host extensions for popular operating systems, an easier to use configuration interface that tends to just work out of the box (this is subjective, I know), and also the additional integration features such as coherence mode (as parallels calls it)
[01:45] <Leeuw> pelo tried purge and reinstall, no go; problem with mergelist ?   I pasted errors from install unbder leeuw in past.org
[01:45] <ianoshorty> nikrud, im using the restricted driver that came with gutsy (as far as im aware)
[01:46] <Invisionfree> Well, VMware worked fine for me :S
[01:46] <ianoshorty> nikrud, doesnt surprise me, i have had no luck with dual screen support at all, id of thought itd be one of the easiest things in the world to setup as well
[01:46] <Pelo> Leeuw, did you mess around with your sources.list file ?
[01:46] <Fryguy--> Invisionfree: I've used vmware (and use it at work at my job), parallels, qemu, and virtualbox, and have a good amount of experience with all four
[01:46] <nikrud> NForc3r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-$(uname -r) and reboot
[01:47] <nikrud> ianoshorty: ati dual screen is something I see many people struggle with
[01:47] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: just tried to format it, failed. if i could find pastbin i would pastbin details <<
[01:47] <NForc3r> nikrud: ok do i just paste that right into terminal?
[01:47] <NForc3r> or do i have to change some stuff there
[01:47] <Odd-rationale> NForc3r: not the "and reboot" part
[01:47] <nikrud> NForc3r: yes. Should work (cross your fingers, I don't wanna hear how you installed your driver :)
[01:47] <Leeuw> Pelo, no did not, but I enlarged partition with gparted, ever since problem.   Checked souces list for rights and existence, is there and owned by root ...   Didn't check contents, don't know how it works or what it does
[01:47] <backtracker> hi
[01:47] <NForc3r> thanx
[01:48] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: did you create a partition first, with e.g. parted or gparted or qtparted?
[01:48] <backtracker> I have a folder, and it's permissions are drwx------
[01:48] <ChoboMog>  Pelo->  Yes, In the SCIM Setup, in the Panel>GTK tab there are options like that.  I've selected "Show: Always" under Toolbar and selected "show tray icon" and "stick windows" under Mics
[01:48] <backtracker> so I want to change them to
[01:48] <Leeuw> Pelo, ' eversince I did I have problem'  I meant
[01:48] <backtracker> drwxr-xr-x
[01:48] <ianoshorty> nikrud, just my luck ;) :P How do they expect people to give linux a go when support for such a basic thing is virtually non existant - i cant understand it1
[01:48] <Fryguy--> backtracker: use the 'chmod' command to do that (read the manpage)
[01:48] <backtracker> how should I do it with chmod
[01:48] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: i use gparted...im to lazy to use mkfs.ext* properly XP
[01:48] <Fryguy--> backtracker: everything you need is in chmod's manpage
[01:48] <nikrud> backtracker:  chmod a+xr dir
[01:48] <ianoshorty> does anyone else have any idea how to get dual screen on an ati x1950 pro going?
[01:48] <ChoboMog> Pelo -> They were already selected from when I tried to get this working on my own
[01:48] <mitch__> How can I remove madwifi modules so i can reinstall them?
[01:49] <rybotsky> how do i install icons in a .zip file
[01:49] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59777/
[01:49] <Leeuw> Pelo, ' add/remove programs' said something about checking sources list too, that's why I checked.
[01:49] <amenado> RickKnight-> booting went okay?
[01:49] <Pelo> Leeuw, I don'T know then, that 's all I have,  , does add/remove work ? can you also use apt ?
[01:49] <nikrud> ryanakca: unzip it into ~/.icons (create the dir if needed, and I'm assuming it's a gnome icon pack)
[01:49] <backtracker> nikrud: but why the 'a'?
[01:49] <thirdeye730> hello, kind of a beginner question... how can I copy a file from my desktop into /usr/lib/usplash when it says I do not have permission. Where can I type my root password in to gain permission to copy it??
[01:49] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: did you create a partition first?
[01:50] <Fryguy--> backtracker: it stands for "all" (as in user, group, other, do all 3 at once)
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> !sudo | thirdeye730
[01:50] <ubotu> thirdeye730: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:50] <nikrud> backtracker: that stands for all , you could have done    +rw   also
[01:50] <Fryguy--> backtracker: read the manpage
[01:50] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: it allready showed up as ext3. should i reset the disklable?
[01:50] <RickKnight> amenado, no. Booting didn't go better, just the same as before. I have some more info from busy box i'm pasting.
[01:50] <Pelo> ChoboMog,  is it possible that SCIM is just not "started" yet, as in you would have to start a relevant app for it to "launch" and start the panel icon and such ?
[01:50] <backtracker> Fryguy--: nikrud : thanks
[01:50] <Leeuw> Pelo, can't use add/remove either, sez also things with apt you suggested; nothing works; And I don't understand apt to try other stuff; maybe I should study APt ?
[01:51] <nikrud> !permissions | backtracker (good reading, gives you an appetizer for the man page)
[01:51] <ubotu> backtracker (good reading, gives you an appetizer for the man page): An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[01:51] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: 'partitions' and 'filesystems' are different things.
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> thirdeye730: e.g. "sudo cp ~/Desktop/file /usr/lib/usplash
[01:51] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: ext3 is a filesystem.
[01:51] <mad_max02> how can I stop pidgin stealing window focus on new msg ???
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> "
[01:51] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: so how do i parition it?
[01:51] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: honestly, I'm not super confident giving detailed instructions here without knowing *exactly* what's going on.
[01:51] <Pelo> Leeuw, I recommend you clean install ubuntu,   back up your /home folder or better yet put it on a seperate partition
[01:52] <hischild> i apologize, i got dropped out ... did anyone answer the question i posted before?
[01:52] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: it's too easy to screw things up. basically, you'll use gparted to create a partition and then some tool (maybe gparted does this too, I'm not sure) to format it as ext3.
[01:52] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: ah. ifound the problem. no disklable, and gparted buggered it up and showed it as ext3. i restarted gparted this time
[01:52]  * Pelo doesn'T know how to recover from a broken "apt" , it's the only thing that realy bugs him 
[01:52] <jtslade> Anyone has experience with getting Option GlobeTrotter GT Max Express 7.2 working in gutsy? =)
[01:52] <Leeuw> Pelo, that's what I thought too, but hoped waw simpler solution...   Am already downloading new CD, have made millions of installs, so no prob...   Thanx anywayz a lot !
[01:52] <nikrud> Leeuw:   do sudo apt-get -f install , and put the complete output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:53] <rybotsky> does anyone know how to install icons
[01:53] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: so what disklable should i give it?
[01:53] <Leeuw> -nikrud will do !
[01:54] <nikrud> Pelo: fixing apt is nearly always screwing around with files in /var/lib/dpkg/info , and most times just exiting the scripts before they execute. Simple bash stuff, nearly always
[01:54] <hischild> nikrud, to make things easier ... you can also let them pipe it into pastebinit and then let em come back with the link ...
[01:54] <rybotsky> help  does anyone know how to install an icon pack that's in a .zip file extension
[01:54] <nikrud> hischild: not if they don't have pastebinit and apt doesn't work :)
[01:55] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: I haven't used gparted in a while... is that like a partition type?
[01:55] <Ketsuban> Repeating because it's long fallen off the top of the screen by now: Could anyone point me in the right direction to set my system up for compiling C to run on a 68k? I'm looking to develop for the Megadrive.
[01:55] <Leeuw> nikrud  did the paste !
[01:55] <hischild> nikrud, oh yeah ... good point there ...
[01:55] <nikrud> Leeuw: what's the link?
[01:55] <Fryguy--> rybotsky: just go to install a new theme and point the tool at the zip file
[01:55] <Pelo> nikrud, i'll get around to looking into that someday thanks for the leads
[01:55] <RickKnight> amenado, This is what I get. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5722/
[01:55] <Leeuw> nikrud oops, how do I find out ?
[01:55] <ChoboMog> Pelo-> It is possible that there is a command to start the bar, possibly in console, but I would have no idea what it is and I haven't seen it in any forum posts/help docs.  I've tried using any number of programs with text input (Text editor, OO.org Writer, FireFox & X-Chat) and the bar never appears.  Also, even when using these programs, trying to switch inputs with the default hotkeys still doesn't work
[01:56] <Leeuw> nikrud, this it? :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59778/
[01:56] <Pelo> ChoboMog, let me try someting , hold on
[01:56] <nikrud> Leeuw: after you hit the paste button, you got a url in the location bar, like that :)
[01:56] <ChoboMog> Pelo-> OK =)
[01:56] <thirdeye730> Odd-Rationale: thank you! much appreciated :)
[01:56] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: it wants it before it lets me set a filesystem...i am trying to find it on wikipedia now[wiki is godXD]
[01:56] <amenado> RickKnight-> can you remove the uuid entry in the menu.lst? so it doesnt go looking for such specific uuid?
[01:56] <Leeuw> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59778/
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> thirdeye730: np
[01:57] <Pelo> ChoboMog, man scim doesn'T seem to have anyting about it , unless it's scim -f
[01:57] <ccharles`> Ketsuban: I'm no expert, but try this: http://darkdust.net/writings/megadrive/crosscompiler
[01:57] <nikrud> Leeuw: run     LANG="C" sudo apt-get -f install   , that'll get me a message in english :)
[01:57] <RickKnight> amenado, I've tried that. Put /dev/hdb5 in. I didn't try /dev/sdb5.
[01:57] <Leeuw> nikrud, will do !
[01:57] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: it sounds like a partition type. normally you want to use 'linux', which I *think* is #82.
[01:58] <RickKnight> amenado, /dev/hdb5 didn't make any difference.
[01:58] <amenado> RickKnight-> try it, i assume those UUID was created by feisty kernel and may be invalid with gutsy
[01:58]  * nikrud hopes this is an easy one, he needs to go buy an extension cord so he can have light until the electricians come
[01:58] <Pelo> ChoboMog,  nwm what I jus said
[01:58] <Pelo> nikrud, candles not good enough for you ?
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> any alternative to Evince??  it's using all my processing power
[01:58] <rybotsky> Fryguy--    how do i install a new theme
[01:58] <amenado> RickKnight-> show me your entry in menu.lst after removing those UUID
[01:58] <Leeuw> nikrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59779/
[01:59] <nikrud> Pelo: I need my halogen light for my ancient eyes
[01:59] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, evince is the pdf reader right ?  ther is a adobe reader for linux on the adobe site
[01:59] <Fryguy--> rybotsky: easiest way is probably to right click on your dekstop, change background, click on first tab, and then click on install
[01:59] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: hehe, it gives me "MSDOS, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, s390, sun, and loop"
[01:59] <kindofabuzz> hmm i guess i'll try the adobe
[01:59] <RickKnight> amenado, I'm booting to Feisty now. I'll paste my changes.
[01:59] <kindofabuzz> why is evince eating up processing power though? i don't even have a pdf open anymore
[02:00] <rybotsky> Fryguy--  it dosn't pick up the zip file
[02:00] <lilyth> anyone know why my usb webcam isnt getting detected when I plug it in? it used to.
[02:00] <Fryguy--> rybotsky: it should
[02:00] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: I see it now in the screenshots on the GParted site. I'm not sure... I'd go with the default which appears to be msdos.
[02:00] <nikrud> Leeuw: ok, now    less   /var/lib/dpkg/status  . Once it opens, type  /Package: onboard , it should find that line. I need to see the Status line following
[02:00] <ccharles`> bluefoxx: it's a brand new RAID, right? so there's no data that you can lose? if msdos doesn't work, just try again with another option :)
[02:00] <amenado> RickKnight-> also remove the quiet and splash  so while booting you can see what it is doing ..
[02:01] <rybotsky> Fryguy-- what do i do if it dosn't
[02:01] <Fryguy--> rybotsky: google
[02:01] <rybotsky> k
[02:01] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: oh! XD. i need to read before i assume lol "A disklabel is a piece of data stored at a place known on the disk that indicates whear each parition begins and how many sectors it occupies. you may need a disklable if you want to create paritions on this disk". LOL
[02:02] <bluefoxx> ccharles`: making a msdos lable now...
[02:02] <user01> can someone help me get ntfs-3g to work?
[02:02] <Pelo> user01, what is the issue ?
[02:03] <user01> Pelo, well the first thing . . . if i try to mount it it says i dont have permissions as user
[02:03] <bob42> hey guys, I installed a debian package (pommed1.16) on my ubuntu (using a .deb file), but each time I use synaptic package manager, it say its a broken package, I can fix it (using "fix broken package" from gui) but as soon as I install another package it remove my pommed1.16 .deb package, how can I fix that ?
[02:03] <nikrud> !google
[02:03] <Pelo> user01, justinstall ntfs-config , then run it from the system tools menu, it should make a new entry in your fstab file
[02:03] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[02:03] <user01> Pelo, ok thanks
[02:03] <jetscreamer> user01: go in #debian-bots and msg dpkg ntfs-3g and rwvfat
[02:03] <Fryguy--> bob42: use things for your distributions
[02:03] <Fryguy--> user01: users can't mount things, you need to mount as root
[02:04] <Leeuw> nikrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59780/
[02:05] <bob42> Fryguy: Hmm I'd like to but the package isn't available yet, plus if I try to install it from source, it bother me with dependencies (that are alreday installed but too old)
[02:05] <Fryguy--> bob42: then you are out of luck.  Either compile from source correctly, or use a package for your distribution.  Mixing and matching packages from other distributions is asking for trouble
[02:05] <RickKnight> amenado, I' pasted the top 2 sections of menu.lst at http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/59871/
[02:06] <nikrud> Leeuw: bad instructions on my part.  type  /Package: onboard   and hit enter, that should take you to  Package: onboard  <newline> Status: installed ok installed  <--- this is probably not what you see, and is the error
[02:06] <amenado> RickKnight-> says not available at the moment
[02:07] <amenado> rather could not be found
[02:07] <Leeuw> sez: pattern not found, hit return...   what you thought ?
[02:07] <bluefoxx> O.o, a 1in20000 friend of mine made this himself[he asked me to share it]>http://damon.zapto.org/hosting/ and http://damon.zapto.org/forum/
[02:07] <RickKnight> amenado, Oops, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59781/
[02:08] <Leeuw> nikrud, sez: pattern not found, instead of what you said it should be...   that's it ?
[02:08] <nikrud> Leeuw: no, it's probably a typo.  start over with   less /var/lib/dpkg/status , and type   /onboard   <enter>  Keep hitting / <enter> until you get to the Package: onboard
[02:08] <casey_> hello.
[02:08] <Pelo> !hi | casey_
[02:08] <ubotu> casey_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:09] <RickKnight> amenado, did you get it this time? If it looks OK, I'll reboot.
[02:09] <nikrud> Leeuw: strike this. Lets try another way
[02:09] <casey_> I am having a problem with the Add/Remove programs in Ubuntu 7.10
[02:09] <Ketsuban> Okay, compiling the crosscompiler didn't work.
[02:09] <Pelo> casey_, what is the problem ?
[02:09] <Leeuw> nikrud. OK
[02:09] <casey_> when I start it up it says: Failed to check for installed and available applications
[02:09] <amenado> RickKnight-> are you booted off feisty now? can you try to get into grub  and type  find /boot/grub/menu.lst   and tell me what partitions it gives you
[02:09] <nikrud> Leeuw:  run   gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status , and search for onboard in that. Probably much easier ;)
[02:10] <casey_> I tried running the commands it suggested to fix broken packages and dependincies, but nothing has worked.
[02:10] <RickKnight> amenado, I'm in Feisty. How do mean " get into grub".
[02:10] <amenado> RickKnight-> sudo  grub
[02:10] <RickKnight> amenado, nevermind
[02:10] <int_main> RickKnight: there's a song about it in The Lion King
[02:10] <NForc3r> hey guys.... er that thing u told me to do to fix my sound.. reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaallly screwed me over
[02:10] <Pelo> casey_, hmm,  try using synaptic instead, see if you have anyproblems with that , menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[02:11] <casey_> no problems at allwith that.
[02:11] <nikrud> NForc3r: reinstalling alsa? how?
[02:11] <NForc3r> 1. it didnt fix my sound issue - 2. now my option to load vista from the boot menu is gone
[02:11] <Leeuw> nikrud, gets error: can't open /var/lib/dpkg/status and some other stuff in Dutch
[02:11] <casey_> I tried using it to fix broken dependincies as well, and had it reload all of the package information
[02:11] <Pelo> casey_, hmm, did add/remove use to work before and started acting up recently or is this a new installation ?
[02:11] <RickKnight> amenado, it gives (hd1,4)
[02:11] <casey_> yeah, just now
[02:11] <casey_> I haven't used it in a couple ofdays
[02:11] <RickKnight> init_main, Huh?
[02:12] <casey_> and just went to run it and started getting this error message.
[02:12] <amenado> RickKnight-> thats it? it does not see any others?
[02:12] <NForc3r> nikrud: sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-$(uname -r) <- U sure that was right?
[02:12] <nikrud> Leeuw: you must have a typo there somewhere, it's the same file you were looking at with less
[02:12] <Pelo> casey_, try doing a search in the forum for the error msg , that might turn up someting,   www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:12] <Smegzo1> My desktop keeps freezing.  I want to force fsck.  What do I type in console to force it at next boot?
[02:12] <jetscreamer> casey_: so what about apt-get -f install
[02:12] <RickKnight> amenado, no, that's all it shows.
[02:12] <Leeuw> nikrud, will try again
[02:12] <jetscreamer> Smegzo1: touch /forcefsck or shutdown -Fr now
[02:12] <casey_> jetscreamer: tried that
[02:12]  * Pelo is batting a big fat 0 tonight 
[02:12] <nikrud> NForc3r: yes. But, for some reason update-grub altered your menu.list during the reinstall. What partition is your windows on?
[02:12] <FJSS> Can anyone tell me how to open up my firefox profile from vista in ubuntu? FYI i'm dual booting
[02:12] <Smegzo1> i tried the latter and it didn't run fsck
[02:13] <jetscreamer> casey_: go into #debian-bots and /msg dpkg fix-unmet
[02:13] <amenado> RickKnight-> thats odd, i would think it should also show your older hd0,1
[02:13] <ShakQ> how can i sync the ClearCalendar screenlet with google calendar?
[02:13] <casey_> jetscreamer: Ijust ran the command again and get this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:13] <NForc3r> nikrud: not sure :(.. i installed windows first with some space left free and told the ubuntu installer to install itself in the reamining free space
[02:13] <jetscreamer> you need to add sudo
[02:13] <casey_> nm
[02:13] <Ketsuban> Once more: Could anyone point me in the right direction to set my system up for compiling C to run on a 68k? I'm looking to develop for the Megadrive.
[02:14] <NForc3r> that has always worked for me
[02:14] <amenado> RickKnight-> do you also notice that your older feisty uses  /vmlinuz  and the newer uses /boot/vmlinuz  ?
[02:14] <condor> anyone know the actual chipset ubuntu uses for the marvell  88e1121
[02:14] <casey_> I still had synaptic running.
[02:14] <Pelo> casey_, you can only run one package manager at a time, close add/remvoe or synaptic
[02:14] <RickKnight> amenado, I have only one menu.lst on mounted drives.
[02:14] <Leeuw> nikrud, nooope, no typo ... :-)>
[02:14] <techone> 68k emulator
[02:14] <NForc3r> nikrud: and now in the sound preferences there is no option to select any sound device
[02:14] <nikrud> NForc3r:   sudo fdisk -l , the first ntfs is probably it
[02:15] <amenado> RickKnight-> am not referrring to menu.lst  am referring to its contents where the older feisty uses /vmlinuz and the newer uses /boot/vmlinuz
[02:15] <alexander_> hello
[02:15] <Ketsuban> techone: I already have a Megadrive emulator, but if I don't have a compiler I can't write code to run on it. =P
[02:15] <nikrud> NForc3r: hm. I had wierd stuff happen with alsa myself in the past.
[02:15] <Leeuw> nikrud, in terminal it sez also:  Could not load gedit state file:, can't find keyfile
[02:15] <rxndx78> hello alexander_
[02:15] <Pelo> !hi | alexander_
[02:15] <ubotu> alexander_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:15] <NForc3r> sda2
[02:15] <nikrud> Leeuw: you have kinda got serious issues there
[02:15] <_wintermute_> anyone know the actual chipset ubuntu uses for the marvell  88e1121
[02:15] <nikrud> NForc3r: what's on sda1?
[02:15] <Leeuw> nikrud, sorry, mean: keyfile doesn't start with group.. (translation)
[02:15] <alexander_> I'm coming with a few questions (I hope it's not all bots who answered :)
[02:15] <Jenson-> Good day all! =)
[02:15] <jetscreamer> go into #debian-bots and /msg dpkg alsa checklist
[02:16] <rxndx78> alexander_ just type your question ;)
[02:16] <NForc3r> nikrud: /dev/sda1               1        1215     9759456   83  Linux
[02:16] <nikrud> Leeuw: a sec
[02:16] <Leeuw> nikrud, yeah, more stuf broken, right ?
[02:16] <RickKnight> amenado, I hadn't noticed that, but the Feisty that boots is in the 3rd and 4th stanzas of the file, and they use /boot/vmlinuz.
[02:16] <user01> hmmm for some reason i unistalled epiphany and now it just reinstalled it without my asking . . . how do i reset the default web browser for x-chat?
[02:16] <Pelo> alexander_,  we'll try and do our best but if the bot has the answer that's who you'll get
[02:16] <Leeuw> nikrud, maybe clean install would be easier ?
[02:16] <robersonfox> hi people, the date of my gpg key expires, how i activate this again?
[02:16] <alexander_> it seems to be a touchy topic - the ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP
[02:16] <Leeuw> nikrud, but how do I keep my settingz ...
[02:16] <jetscreamer> user01: man update-alternatives or just make yourself a new thingy in xchat to start whatever you want
[02:16] <ccharles`> robersonfox: you need to create a brand new key, I think.
[02:16] <_wintermute_> anyone know the actual chipset ubuntu uses for the marvell  88e1121
[02:17]  * Pelo thinks that alexander_ is going to get an automated answer
[02:17] <casey_> tired msging the debian-bots and did what it said, but itstill isn't working
[02:17] <nikrud> NForc3r: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59783/ , add that windows boot stanza to the end of /boot/grub/menu.list , after #END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC
[02:17] <RickKnight> amenado, the entries at the bottom are pretty old and I don't use them. Should probably do some clean up when things are working again.
[02:17] <jetscreamer> settings advanced url handlers, user01
[02:17] <andycore> Anybody here have any experience with installing gutsy on a santa rosa macbook pro? I can't quite seem to get ANYTHING working following the wiki, bar the wireless
[02:17] <nikrud> Leeuw: if you don't have a lot of time invested in this install, yes
[02:17] <mnk0> hey sup
[02:17] <Pelo> alexander_, try the restricted driver first , that those don'T work for you there is always the binairy driver
[02:17] <Leeuw> nikrud, as I said earlier, it happened after enlarging / with Gparted; at boot also filesystem problems that couldn' t solve...
[02:17] <jetscreamer> NForc3r: or before the begin debian automagic
[02:17] <mnk0> anyone know how i could go about disable my 2nd monitor when i want to run an app ?
[02:17] <_wintermute_> andycore, it should install with no problem
[02:17] <ShakQ> how can i sync the ClearCalendar screenlet with google calendar?
[02:17] <amenado> RickKnight-> do you have /dev/sdb5 mounted ?
[02:17] <jetscreamer> unplug it?
[02:17] <mnk0> automatically without going throu the nvidia-settings
[02:17] <alexander_> Pelo, is there a special procedure to accessing those?
[02:18] <Leeuw> nikrud, not really very, very much, but still would be pity... could live with it though...
[02:18] <amenado> RickKnight-> can you do an ls -la  on that mountpoint where you have mounted /dev/sdb5  and paste it please
[02:18] <nikrud> Leeuw: eeeww. gparted. I don't trust that myself, it ruined an install for me also once.
[02:18] <RickKnight> amenado, Yes. It's mounted as / for Feisty.
[02:18] <Pelo> alexander_,  the restricted drivers , if any are avaialbe for your card should be lisetd in  menu > system > admin > restricted drivers
[02:18] <alexander_> anyway, neither the xorg driver nor the ati closed source one seems to work
[02:18] <andycore> _wintermute_: Well it's installed fine, and I've got the wireless running, but I'mm following the wiki on how to get things like audio working when they don't, along with the keyboard controls, but following them to the letter nothing seems to work
[02:18] <alexander_> Pelo, it is not available there
[02:18] <Leeuw> nikrud, oh dear...   is there a better bet in live-partition-cd world ?
[02:18] <NForc3r> yep
[02:18] <nikrud> !clone | Leeuw if you do this, and backup your home, you can get back to where you are very quickly
[02:18] <ubotu> Leeuw if you do this, and backup your home, you can get back to where you are very quickly: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[02:19] <NForc3r> now what to do about my sound issue?
[02:19] <_wintermute_> oh well you have to if i remember correctly blaclist some audio drivers
[02:19] <nikrud> Leeuw: I don't live partition, I backup data and then rework my partitions. I'm old fashioned in that way
[02:19] <alexander_> I've tried several different methods, like the driver from the repo and the one from the website
[02:19] <Leeuw> nikrud, I don't care so much about packages, more settings of all programz and desktop
[02:19] <casey_> ok, well so far nothing has worked..
[02:19] <NForc3r> wintermute: it was working when i installed linux
[02:19] <Pelo> alexander_,  you can always use the vesa driver in the mean time but that's the limit of what I can tell you on the subject, you could always try and do  a forum search for the model, see if anyting comes up , www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:19] <_wintermute_> but i think mine isntalled the correct ones
[02:19] <nikrud> NForc3r: not sure anymore, reinstalling alsa is the 'canonical' fix
[02:19] <Leeuw> nikrud, maybe that's wiser...
[02:19] <casey_> for some reason sources.list is not behaving..
[02:19] <RickKnight> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59784/
[02:20] <alexander_> Pelo, I have many times
[02:20] <casey_> is there a way of maybe blowing it away and replacing it?
[02:20] <alexander_> there are several guides there but none seem to do it
[02:20] <nikrud> Leeuw: if you backup your home, your settings will be preserved. be sure to get all the files/dirs that start with a period
[02:20] <Leeuw> nikrud, i TOOK THE CHANCE ' CAUSE NO REAL IMPORTANT DATA ON DISC.
[02:20] <Pelo> alexander_, I'm sorry I can'T help anymore
[02:20] <Leeuw> sorry for capslock !
[02:20] <_wintermute_> andycore,  is it using also btw?
[02:20] <_wintermute_> ALSA*
[02:20] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:21] <andycore> _wintermute_: I followed the instructions on upgrading ALSA
[02:21] <_wintermute_> hmm
[02:21] <_wintermute_> something must be wrong in the cfg
[02:21] <amenado> RickKnight-> and that mountpoint/boot  ?  am just trying to track down and match..
[02:21] <Leeuw> nikrud, OK, thankz !   Will do.   CD almost downloaded, hope cd-burner still works... ;-)
[02:21] <NForc3r> nikrud, i installed the realtek driver from source. it failed the first time because it was missing some files. i got them and tried again and it told me it was successful. after reboot i had no sound.
[02:22] <Leeuw> nikrud, for the record, can you tell me aprox what the problem could be (without solution) ?
[02:22] <alexander_> is there a video card help channel perhaps?
[02:22] <Leeuw> nikrud, or problemz..
[02:22] <andycore> _wintermute_: I'm just going to do a whole format and re-try, seeing as I had to fight to get it to install in the first place.
[02:22] <RickKnight> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59785/
[02:22] <Leeuw> nikrud, yoou'll say Gparted.. prob... ;-)
[02:23] <nikrud> NForc3r: you can compiling and installing alsa from source, and then the realtec from source. Those should match, but alsa is a real pain in the butt
[02:23] <NForc3r> nikrud. is alsa a audio driver?
[02:23] <amenado> RickKnight-> and once more  mountpoint/boot/grub  please
[02:23] <Fryguy--> alsa is not an audio driver
[02:23] <robersonfox> ccharles`: but this dont work correctly, the ID Will be different, right?
[02:23] <vinboy> is EncFS suitable for encrypting 200GB worth of large video files?
[02:23] <nikrud> Leeuw: for every time I hear someone say it failed, I hear at least a hundred that say it worked. I just don't trust resizing partitions and getting everything right yet.
[02:24] <nikrud> NForc3r: it's the sound framework that drivers work within
[02:24] <ccharles`> robersonfox: yes, the ID will be different. The expired key is garbage now. anybody who wants the new key will have to download it and sign it again.
[02:24] <NForc3r> k ill get the realtek driver off the website again and try again
[02:24] <RickKnight> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59786/
[02:24] <nikrud> NForc3r: compiling kernel related stuff is not for the faint of heart.
[02:25] <Leeuw> nikrud, OK, gparted it iz...   thanx for yer help, can rest assured; at least tried...
[02:25] <ccharles`> robersonfox: if the old key is still good for a few days you can sign your new key with your old one to help the trust network.
[02:25] <NForc3r> nikrud. um... then what should i do? i cant reinstall...?
[02:25] <nikrud> Leeuw: I'm off to buy an extension cord and outlet strip, my apartment is dark :)
[02:25] <ccharles`> robersonfox: as far as I know, there is no way to "extend" a PGP (GnuPG) key.
[02:25] <nikrud> NForc3r: why did you install the driver from the web in the first place?
[02:26] <NForc3r> because the ubuntu driver didnt seam to support 5.1 suround sound
[02:26] <Leeuw> nikrud, try candles, get atnosphere !   bye & thanx !
[02:26]  * alexander_ is wondering what is a good place to ask for video card help
[02:26] <Werenerd> hey all, I am back from replacing the hard drive. However now when I try and move a folder of media, all it copies is the parent folder and not the subfolders and files
[02:26] <Gopher> what's the easiest way to set up a folder linked with SSH to another comp's folder?
[02:26] <robersonfox> ccharles`: hummm, thanks
[02:27] <x0rg62> hi
[02:27] <amenado> RickKnight-> just for comparison  mine is 7218344 2008-02-29 15:48 initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:27] <ccharles`> Gopher: sshfs works well. it uses FUSE.
[02:27] <Gopher> ccharles`, and that should be installed on both comps?
[02:27] <int_main> alexander_: is it about fglrx?
[02:27] <nikrud> NForc3r: Every time I had sound problems, I've reinstalled the kernel (to get the sound driver modules back to default) and had it work. And surround sound is something that's not easy to set up. If the driver supports it, there's some manual config that's necessary.
[02:27] <Fryguy--> sshfs works pretty well.  I use nfs if it's available
[02:27] <Fryguy--> Gopher: no, sshfs uses fuse to emulate sftp sessions as a filesystem
[02:28] <ccharles`> Gopher: sshd is enough on the server hosting the share. on the machine mounting the share you'll need FUSE and sshfs.
[02:28] <Fryguy--> so you just install it wherever you want to mount ssh as a filesystem, nothing extra is required on the server side
[02:28] <alexander_> int_main, yes it is
[02:28] <nikrud> NForc3r: sadly, the only person that truly understands sound doesn't have the time to come here as much as he used to.
[02:28] <RickKnight> amenado, that's not off by much.
[02:28] <NForc3r> nikrud. i see.. so i cant get my sound working unless i reainstal
[02:28] <Gopher> ccharles`, what package is FUSE in?
[02:28] <Fryguy--> just install ssfs
[02:28] <Gopher> k
[02:28] <NForc3r> reinstall*
[02:28] <int_main> alexander_: what is the video card, and what exactly is the error?
[02:29] <alexander_> its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
[02:29] <alexander_> no drivers seem to work for it
[02:29] <jetscreamer> sshfs?
[02:29] <amenado> RickKnight-> you have those 3  initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic  can you try to save the .generic to something like .generic.orig and move the .bak to .generic?
[02:29] <nikrud> NForc3r: probably that is the fastest way. Backup /home/<you> (the entire directory) and use the clone techique below. You'll get back to where you are (minus sound issues) quickly
[02:29] <nikrud> !clone | NForc3r
[02:29] <ubotu> NForc3r: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[02:29] <alexander_> I get no direct rendering
[02:29] <RickKnight> amenado, Sure.
[02:29] <ccharles`> Gopher: it may be installed by default on recent builds... I can't remember. do you have a fuse group already? (grep fuse /etc/group)
[02:29] <alexander_> I've tried the xorg driver and the one supplied by ati
[02:30] <Gopher> yeah
[02:30] <amenado> RickKnight-> then reboot, lets see if it makes a difference, btw, why 3 was created?
[02:30] <Gopher> it returns a list of names
[02:30] <Gopher> so i'd guess so
[02:30] <Werdna> Hey. I'm using iptables to run a transparent proxy with squid (iptables command # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[02:30] <Werdna> )
[02:30] <alexander_> errors differ, sometimes a core dump during installation, sometimes x wouldn't start, etc.
[02:30] <ccharles`> Gopher: then you should be OK on the FUSE end. you'll want to add yourself to the fuse group and then log out and then back in.
[02:30] <alexander_> int_main, any ideas?
[02:30] <Gopher> k
[02:31] <amenado> Werdna-> and what happens?
[02:31] <Werdna> and it's not working properly - when I browse froma  computer with that box set as default gateway (verified with traceroute), I get nothing in the squid logs to indicate that web requests are being put through the squid proxy.
[02:31] <RickKnight> amenado, I'm rebooting
[02:31] <Fryguy--> Gopher: also, if you just need this sometimes and not always, nautilus fully supports sftp through it's gui as well, just do ssh://blah@blah.com in the location bar of nautilus
[02:31] <amenado> Werdna-> is eth0 the internal interface?
[02:31] <int_main> alexander_: so what are you using, vesa?
[02:31] <millllmannnn> is there a way to disable the root user once it has been enabled?
[02:31] <smehmood> does the Server Edition Install CD also have a Live distro?
[02:31] <amenado> RickKnight-> okay, let me know how it goes
[02:32] <Werdna> amenado: Yes, but the requests are coming to an alias of that interface (eth0:0)
[02:32] <Gopher> thanks Fryguy-- i'm looking to mount it though
[02:32] <MrJoey> Should a bootable USB be formatted like a hard drive or like a CD drive?
[02:32] <Madman6510> No @ smehwood
[02:32] <smehmood> Madman6510: thanks.
[02:32] <ccharles`> Fryguy--: good point. I assumed since Gopher asked for a "folder linked with ssh" that we needed a mount.
[02:32] <amenado> Werdna-> umm eth0 and eth0:0 are two diff interfaces in the eyes of iptables?
[02:33] <Fryguy--> ccharles`: so did i, but mentioning nautilus's built in integration with pretty much every feasible method of transporting files from one machine to another seemed to be worthwhile to mention
[02:33] <seanh> Hey -- can anyone help me getting Ubuntu to boot on a mac, in particular getting the open firmware settings right?
[02:33] <Gopher> sorry, ahah, just did the log in/out cycle
[02:33] <ccharles`> Fryguy--: certainly worthwhile.
[02:34] <cocox> hi, do i need to activate some or service or something in orther to mount a share from a nfs server?? im on a ubuntu gutsy box
[02:34] <int_main> alexander_: are you there?
[02:34] <ccharles`> Gopher: now you'll need to create a mountpoint (directory) for the folder. I usually use ~/mnt/foo/, but you can pretty much put it anywhere.
[02:35] <Fryguy--> cocox: seriously?  google "ubuntu nfs" and click the first result
[02:35] <alexander_> int_main, I am yes
[02:35] <amenado> cocox-> on server side assuming its ubuntu  /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart ?
[02:35] <ccharles`> Gopher: then do 'sshfs server:path mountpoint'.
[02:35] <Gopher> i think i've got it
[02:35] <alexander_> int_main, the fglrx driver is loaded but gives no direct rendering
[02:35] <int_main> alexander_: you have to use the fglrx driver.... but your card is so old, that the support for it is no longer in the fglrx driver
[02:35] <Gopher> sshfs place:folder localmountpoint
[02:35] <Gopher> right?
[02:35] <amenado> cocox and also maybe the portmap
[02:35] <ccharles`> Gopher: yes
[02:35] <Ketsuban> Again: Could anyone point me in the right direction to set my system up for compiling C to run on a 68k? I'm looking to develop for the Megadrive.
[02:36] <alexander_> int_main, I know, though I've read that the 8.28.8 still supports it
[02:36] <Fryguy--> amenado: none of those things are necessary to mount nfs shares, which is what he asked about
[02:36] <Gopher> int main..what an awesome nick...haha
[02:36] <ccharles`> Ketsuban: did you look at the link I pasted earlier?
[02:36] <cocox> amenado, Fryguy- my bad wrong question!! check again -- do i need to activate some or service or something in my linux client orther to mount a share from a nfs server?? im on a ubuntu gutsy box
[02:36] <amenado> Fryguy---> nope? you dont need to activate those in the server side(sharing side?)
[02:36] <Ketsuban> ccharles`: Yes. It didn't work because binutils failed to make.
[02:36] <jasonb2007> hi
[02:36] <Werdna> amenado: Sorry about that. Well, adding eth0:0 doesn't work
[02:36] <int_main> alexander_: this discussion seems to outline basically what you would have to do: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-578445.html
[02:37] <Fryguy--> amenado: you do, but he asked about mounting an existing share
[02:37] <Werdna> I get this error: Warning: weird character in interface `eth0:0' (No aliases, :, ! or *).
[02:37] <ccharles`> Ketsuban: ah, just checking. I'm not a 68000 person, but cross-compiling in general can be a little hairy.
[02:37] <amenado> Fryguy---> i read his question wrong..and he just clarified it
[02:37] <RickKnight> amenado, No difference. Boots to Busy Box.
[02:37] <v3ctor> Werdna: try not using the '-p tcp' option
[02:37] <Mephisto> hello, i want to install ubuntu (using the minimal CD install) and it doesn't seem to detect my network. the networking happens over usb though, any ideas on where to start to get it to work?
[02:37] <Fryguy--> cocox: like i said, google "ubuntu nfs" and click on the first result
[02:38] <amenado> RickKnight-> as you have remove quiet and splash,  do you distinguish anything before it goes to busybox?
[02:38] <alexander_> int_main, thanks, reading it
[02:38] <cocox> Fryguy-- just shut up if you dont know
[02:38] <Werdna> v3ctor: without -p tcp, I get this: iptables v1.3.6: Unknown arg `--dport'
[02:38] <int_main> alexander_: also, the script that the guy mentions is in a post by Kano here: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4400
[02:38] <Werdna> v3ctor: as obviously "port" has no concept unless you're using TCP/UDP
[02:38] <Fryguy--> cocox: considering the machine on on has it's /home directory remotely mounted over nfs, i'm going to go with i _DO_ know
[02:38] <alexander_> int_main, I've run that script
[02:38] <Fryguy--> now click the link, read, fix your problem in less than 5 minutes, and have a nice day
[02:39] <jasonb2007> i have a large file and want to use dd command to write the file to my vmware disc and i tried using fuse and sshfs to access the file across the network but the transfer rate is terrible slow only 2.4 meg a second and its a 6gig file anyone know a better way?
[02:39] <RickKnight> amenado, Yes, it detects my USB mass storage drive and a few other USB related commands.
[02:39] <int_main> alexander_: oh, that doesn't sound good....
[02:39] <Anza> the "check disk memory" setting, how long is it supposed to run?
[02:39] <alexander_> int_main, the driver installs fine but still no dri, and running fglrxinfo shows a MESA device
[02:39] <tuntun> Hi. I've been trying tiddlywiki but I don't really like it. all I want is a single self-saving html/javascript page with a big textarea to type into. Is there any barebones code for doing that?
[02:39] <cocox> Fryguy-- right loser... if you dont wanna help just shut up and let others do
[02:39] <Anza> I mean
[02:40] <Anza> a friend recently installed linux, then after all set up, turned off pc for the night, next day when he turned it on, it was a black screen and at top said "please wait. loading" or something similar, so he waited then after 25 mins he reset, then the same thing happened, so he put back in the unbuntu cd and ran the "check disk memory" function and it has been running for 120 hours, can anyone help?
[02:40] <Fryguy--> cocox: i'm sure there's plenty of people in this channel who will vouch for my contributions to the channel
[02:40] <amenado> RickKnight-> same thing right if you boot to recovery ?  since the entry in menu.lst is pretty much the same...
[02:40] <int_main> alexander_; so you mean, it works for gnome, but no acceleration?
[02:40] <alexander_> int_main, that's right
[02:40] <jasonb2007> !ssh
[02:40] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:40] <cocox> Fryguy-- good for you!
[02:40] <RickKnight> amenado, Yes, same for recovery
[02:40] <bughunter2> FPS of glxgears is way lower in GNOME than in KDE (say 4000 points lower), what is going on here?
[02:40] <bughunter2> (direct rendering is enabled)
[02:41] <ccharles`> Anza: the memtest boot option on the livecd?
[02:41] <alexander_> int_main, neither 3d (which I think is to be expected), nor 2d, and the display refresh rate is limited
[02:41] <con-man> what does: "err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x2dc893b0 "rtl.c: RTL_RWLOCK.rtlCS" wait timed out in thread 002b, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec)" mean?  I get it when Im running my game with Wine.
[02:41] <con-man> the game freezes
[02:41] <con-man> and I have to reload
[02:41] <Fryguy--> cocox: so what exactly is the problem?  you got linked to a step by step walkthrough of everything you need to know about nfs from the perspective of ubuntu except for performance tuning, yet we seem to be having a meaningless conversation and I'm not really sure why.
[02:41] <con-man> happens once or twice an hour
[02:41] <NForc3r> when will people start using setup apps on linux for installing stuff insted of source?
[02:42] <Anza> yes ccharles
[02:42] <amenado> RickKnight-> for kicks  what is the contents of that  /dev/sdb5/boot/grub/device.map ?
[02:42] <Madman6510> They already do.
[02:42] <NForc3r> i mean they can give the source code aswell..... but why not include a installer with it
[02:42] <con-man> NForc3r: source is better imo
[02:42] <ccharles`> Anza: I could be wrong, but I think it keeps looping until you stop it manually.
[02:42] <v3ctor> NForc3r: when there is only one distro left
[02:42] <alexander_> int_main, perhaps there are some old config files or something else lying around that is getting in the way, I don't know - can you recommend any way to do a clean install to check for this
[02:42] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: a large portion of "the point" of linux is the fact that it is open source and those sources are available.  ./configure && make && make install is about as easy a setup as you are going to get.  What else could you need?
[02:42] <NForc3r> v3ctor, good point
[02:42] <cocox> Fryguy-- look loser just stop... use our tijme trying to help someone instead bothering
[02:42] <RickKnight> amenado, One more difference. Instaed of saying "Alert! /dev/disk/by-id/xxx it says /dev/sdb5 does not exist.
[02:42] <con-man> NForc3r: when you have a dozen distros of linux who wants to make an installer for  each one
[02:43] <RickKnight> amenado, let me reboot again.
[02:43] <NForc3r> Fryguy, A "Next" button
[02:43] <Anza> does it will repair the errors it finds?
[02:43] <int_main> alexander: the easiest way, if you really want the acceleration, seems to be, just use Ubuntu Edgy 6.10, which have the 8.28 fglrx integrated and working
[02:43] <Madman6510> Doesn't a .deb package kind of count as an installer?
[02:43] <Fryguy--> cocox: if you've been paying attention, you'll notice that I am helping other people, and participating in multiple conversations at once.  unlike you, who is making absolutely 0 contribution to the channel
[02:43] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: a next for what? it's 1 step
[02:43] <Fryguy--> in most cases
[02:43] <amenado> RickKnight-> we may have to go back and use  /dev/hdb5 ?  we try everything til it works..hehe
[02:43] <RichW> Fryguy--: Dont be so big headed.
[02:43] <ccharles`> Anza: memtest tests your physical RAM for defects. It's only used to test for bad RAM. Bad RAM cannot be fixed in software, it needs to be replace id errors are found.
[02:44] <NForc3r> con-man, cant they have a universal installer format?
[02:44] <ccharles`> Anza: but it does *not* look at anything else, including your hard drive or Ubuntu installation
[02:44] <frost0> anyone know how to reinstall update manager?
[02:44] <nikrud> please, everyone stop with the one upmanship.
[02:44] <NForc3r> oh no because every distro is built diferently
[02:44] <Fryguy--> RichW: i'm not, i'm just sitting here answering questions and participating in conversations, with the 1 exception being this weird thing with cocox
[02:44] <v3ctor> NForc3r: thats the beauty of freedom ;)
[02:44] <eegore> how does one open a samba share in console
[02:44] <mnk0> anyone got Descent working?
[02:44] <bughunter2> NForc3r: it's possible but it is hard, read about "dependency hell" ;)
[02:45] <bughunter2> eegore: by mounting it
[02:45] <Fryguy--> eegore: use 'smbmount'
[02:45] <crew3> hey is a anyone here familiar with Ocatave/Matlab
[02:45] <NForc3r> ah well... i guess compiling is good enough
[02:45] <Anza> well, if it wont load, what do you suggest??
[02:45] <crew3> I need to k now how to find the max of a Cell
[02:45] <fenerli> crew3: yes, both octave and matlab
[02:45] <cocox> Fryguy--, good for you again... congrats for being so useful!
[02:45] <bughunter2> NForc3r: actually it isn't, installation should be easier for most users
[02:45] <NForc3r> its just everyone i know doesnt like linux because of the Necessary terminal interaction
[02:46] <alexander_> int_main, any serious drawbacks to that compared to 7.10?
[02:46] <cookiemonster077> I need help enabling restricted drivers for nvidia card in ubuntu ultimate
[02:46] <nikrud> cocox: please drop it, Fryguy-- please don't respond to provocation
[02:46] <cocox> Fryguy-- stop talking me and do whetever you do
[02:46] <Madman6510> With most linux distros you almost never need to use the terminal if you don't want to.
[02:46] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: plenty of distributions (such as ubuntu) distribute binary packages for their system.  There's only a few linuxes that rely on compiling from source.  *BSD also largely supports a packing system as well as a source compilation system.  There's plenty of options
[02:46] <v3ctor> NForc3r: linux is not for everybody
[02:46] <bughunter2> Madman6510: depends on the user and what they want
[02:46] <RickKnight> amenado, I like " we try everything till it works". Hope I can stick around that long...
[02:46] <ccharles`> Anza: there are lots of things that could cause a system not to boot. what error message are you getting? kernel panic or something?
[02:46] <crew3> I've tried max(0,R{1,:})
[02:46] <NForc3r> v3ctor, i know. but it should be for everybody
[02:47] <crew3> but I get an error
[02:47] <Madman6510> That's true, but for simple use, you usually don't need the terminal
[02:47] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: why?
[02:47] <bughunter2> NForc3r: agreed, amen
[02:47] <amenado> RickKnight-> i have to eat dinner soon..hehe
[02:47] <Fryguy--> NForc3r: it's not possible to build an operating system that does everything well
[02:47] <Gopher> NForc3r, it is
[02:47] <NForc3r> how do i make sure ALSA is shutdown?
[02:47] <Anza> nothing at all
[02:47] <cocox> nikrud ya dun know why he still talk to me.. probably doesn't has anyone else who pay attention to him
[02:47] <Gopher> it's like, everyone has a chance to get good grades in school, but not everyone does
[02:47] <Gopher> because some people are lazy
[02:47] <int_main> alexander_: well, everything will be older... how old is the laptop, out of curiosity?
[02:47] <bughunter2> NForc3r: modprobe -r the modules
[02:47] <Anza> is a black screen like DOS
[02:47] <Gopher> then again like linux, some people dont like terminal interaction because they're scared of messing something up
[02:47] <NForc3r> bughunter2, what?
[02:47] <fenerli> the terminal is usually just for shortcuts to things you can do in the gui anyway
[02:47] <Fryguy--> since some things that are best in some situations conflict with things that are best in other situations.  You make your sacrifices and use the system.  If you don't like the compromises you have to make, you use a different system
[02:47] <bughunter2> NForc3r: ye heard me!
[02:47] <Anza> and says in grey letters "please wait     loading ......."
[02:48] <nikrud> cocox: I haven't seen him respond to like your last 2 provocations
[02:48] <bughunter2> NForc3r: unload the ALSA modules, that's all, ALSA doesn't "shutdown"
[02:48] <Anza> then nothing happens
[02:48] <int_main> alexander_: also, Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy will continue to get updates and support until next month, April 2008...
[02:48] <amenado> RickKnight-> for kicks  what is the contents of that  /dev/sdb5/boot/grub/device.map ? <-- anything?
[02:48] <fenerli> unless you do complex server admin or other crap
[02:48] <alexander_> int_main, probably old enough to match :) 3 years
[02:48] <NForc3r> bughunter2, whats the terminal command?
[02:48] <Anza> and does the same for the cd "start function" too
[02:48] <bronzejr> Can anyone lead me to an up-to-date guide on how to install drivers for ATI mobility radeon hd 2300 on a fresh ubuntu install?
[02:48] <crew3> my cell is a colomn array and it contains arrays
[02:48] <bughunter2> NForc3r: just told you, `modprobe -r INSERT_MODULENAME_HERE`
[02:48] <alexander_> int_main, and you're saying the driver works there without a problem?
[02:48] <NForc3r> bughunter2, Oh
[02:48] <RickKnight> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59787/
[02:48] <un_dave> can anyone help me setup my vnc to gdm connection? i'm using ubuntu server with fluxbox
[02:48] <bughunter2> NForc3r: snd-pcm-oss for example, or snd-hda-intel
[02:48] <ccharles`> Anza: the livecd "start or install ubuntu" option does the same thing?
[02:48] <NForc3r> bughunter2, k thnx
[02:49] <jasonb2007> i have a large file and want to use dd command to write the file to my vmware disc and i tried using fuse and sshfs to access the file across the network but the transfer rate is terrible slow only 2.4 meg a second and its a 6gig file anyone know a better way?
[02:49] <fenerli> un_dave: specific problem?
[02:49] <Anza> yes!
[02:49] <un_dave> fenerli: vncserver doesnt seem to be running on the server
[02:49] <NForc3r> what does it mean if it says "FATAL: Module ALSA not found."  does that mean it isnt running?
[02:49] <ccharles`> Anza: that's strange... probably a hardware problem :-(
[02:49] <bughunter2> NForc3r: there is no module 'ALSA'
[02:49] <bughunter2> NForc3r: what the hell are you trying to do actually?
[02:49] <un_dave> fenerli: i do ps -A | grep vnc on the system, and get nothing
[02:50] <amenado> RickKnight-> it looks good, i cant think of anything that puts it in busybox....check for the messages before this point, maybe something you can gleam at
[02:50] <Anza> should i try the "livecd" update option?
[02:50] <fenerli> un_dave: you obviously checked to make sure it is running right?
[02:50] <int_main> alexander_: well, I think I used it with a radeon mobility x1300.. no problems.. and the included fglrx is version 8.28, which in theory is exactly the one your card needs...
[02:50] <zack> hi this may sound strange, but i just recently upgraded to 7.10.. Im running server addition i installed ubuntu-desktop and a few other things.. I would like to remove everything i installed and go back to the basic server.. how can i do this easly ?
[02:50] <alexander_> int_main, I see; it
[02:50] <NForc3r> bughunter2, im installing my audio driver and its telling me to make sure the alsa driver is turned off
[02:50] <un_dave> fenerli: how do i make it start every time it boots?
[02:50] <fenerli> un_dave: any router/firewalling? if so, have you forwarded and allowed port 5900 or whatever port chosen?
[02:50] <bughunter2> NForc3r: okay, what card?
[02:50] <alexander_> int_main, it's still odd that this one doesn't work
[02:50] <Madman6510> zack: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <crew3> fenerli: I've tried max(0,R{1,:})
[02:51] <NForc3r> bughunter2, some onboard realtek card
[02:51] <bughunter2> NForc3r: which onboard realtek?
[02:51] <bughunter2> NForc3r: run `lspci`
[02:51] <amenado> RickKnight-> dinner time for me...laters..
[02:51] <fenerli> crew3: http://www.mathworks.fr/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/164570
[02:51] <NForc3r> kk
[02:51] <un_dave> fenerli: shouldnt be any of that, it's all internal network. but i think the issue is more that there's no vnc processes started
[02:51] <RickKnight> amenado, Mywife is calling I gotta go.
[02:51] <Anza> thanks <ccharles`>
[02:51] <int_main> alexander_: you mean, odd that 8.28 does not work in gutsy 7.10?
[02:51] <Anza> : )
[02:51] <alexander_> int_main, right
[02:52] <fenerli> crew3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189555
[02:52] <frost0> anyone here at all have the default gutsy sources.list?
[02:52] <alexander_> int_main, it seemed that the Kano script worked for quite a few people, though I'm not sure what Ubuntu version they used
[02:52] <charlie-jayne> does any one in here have a Dell Inspiron 6400?
[02:52] <fenerli> crew3: sorry, disregard last message
[02:52] <fenerli> un_dave: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189555
[02:52] <ccharles`> Anza: NP. honestly, I'm pretty new here. I'm not sure what the normal recommendation is at this point, and I wouldn't want to get too far into troubleshooting hardware since that's not the topic here.
[02:53] <un_dave> fenerli: ok, reading, thanks
[02:53] <fenerli> frost0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20506
[02:53] <int_main> alexander_: it could be that the version of the x server in ubuntu 7.10 is too new for that driver, so if you wanted to use fglrx 8.28, you'd also have to downgrade the x.org version, and then that would require other things to be downgraded, in a really ugly mess of dependencies
[02:53] <icesword> !key
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Anza> ok
[02:53] <bughunter2> why does glxgears under GNOME give me ~5500 FPS and glxgears in KDE ~10.000 FPS ? if anyone can point me in the right direction to solving this i'd be glad
[02:53] <CorruptTerrorist> halp! each time i put my computer into suspend, it just turns itself off!!
[02:53] <crew3> fenerli: not quite what I was looking for it'sa
[02:53] <frost0> fenerli, that's hoary...not gutsy right?
[02:53] <int_main> bughunter2: clearly, KDE sucks :)
[02:53] <fenerli> change hoary to gutsy
[02:53] <bughunter2> int_main: ? under KDE it's faster
[02:53] <NForc3r> bughunter2, doesnt say. keep in mind this is because i have massive issues after i tried installing this driver once. when ubuntu was freshly installed sound worked 100% OK. then i 'tried' to install this and no more sound. under sound in preferences there is no sound device and lspci doesnt reveal anything.
[02:54] <crew3> fenerli: it's a cell but it contains more vectors, I want to know the max out of all of them in the cell
[02:54] <bughunter2> NForc3r: lspci should reveal what your sound card is
[02:54] <bughunter2> !alsa
[02:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:55] <fenerli> frost0: more complete default source list specific to gutsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705323
[02:55] <ccharles`> Anza: I will say this much, though. The "Ultimate Boot CD" is a *great* tool for this kind of thing. Google it. I can't help you with using it here, though.
[02:55] <bughunter2> int_main: clearly, KDE rocks :)
[02:55] <int_main> bughunter2: how is 10 fps faster than 5500?
[02:55] <charlie-jayne> does anyone know how get the wifi card working in a Dell Inspiron 6400?
[02:55] <bughunter2> 10000 !
[02:55] <bughunter2> not 10
[02:55] <alexander_> int_main, actually the specific error that fglrxinfo gives is this
[02:55] <fenerli> charlie-jayne: on gutsy?
[02:55] <alexander_> int_main, Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:55] <zack> my friend installed over 100 apps in synaptic i would like to know an easy way of removing them.
[02:55] <charlie-jayne> fenerli: yes
[02:55] <bughunter2> int_main: the decimal symbol in US is a dot, right?
[02:56] <need_destructi0n> someone knows why my ketboard dont do >>> n~a up in the letter a
[02:56] <NForc3r> bughunter2, here it is
[02:56] <bronzejr> Can anyone lead me to an up-to-date guide on how to install drivers for ATI mobility radeon hd 2300 on a fresh ubuntu install?
[02:56] <bughunter2> so anyway, glxgears under GNOME is much slower, i don't know what's going on and would like some help :)
[02:56] <need_destructi0n> someone knows why my keyboard dont do >>> n~a up in the letter a
[02:56] <int_main> bughunter2: ah, you are not from North America then
[02:56] <fenerli> charlie-jayne: i remember manually setting up /etc/network/interfaces ... on hardy, iwl3945 is ready to use and there are no problems
[02:56] <NForc3r> bughunter2, its a "Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI E"
[02:56] <bughunter2> int_main: i'm from Netherlands
[02:56] <need_destructi0n> dot do the "~" up the letter "a"
[02:56] <bughunter2> NForc3r: that's your damned Network Integrated Card
[02:56] <alexander_> bronzejr, are you getting a specific problem?
[02:57] <bughunter2> if i'm right
[02:57] <NForc3r> bughunter2, right...... i knew that XD
[02:57] <bughunter2> NForc3r: so, what does that have to do with your sound card?
[02:57] <bronzejr> alexander_ - yes, the lack of Xgl
[02:57] <bughunter2> NForc3r: being a smartass?
[02:57] <int_main> alexander_: yeah, but that might be a symptom rather thatn a root cause... i.e., the error is no direct rendering... bu there is no direct rendering because it is an imcompatible verison of X, or something
[02:57] <un_dave> fenerli: i dont seem to have a file here /etc/init.d/vncserver
[02:57] <NForc3r> bughunter2, it said realtek.. i just assumed
[02:57] <Werdna> So I've made progress with iptables. Setting packets to go into the regular eth0 interface rather than the alias, and setting the same iptables command (# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128) makes the internet just plain not work on a computer with that box as the default gateway. I'm expecting it to be sent through squid (which is listening on ::::3128), but there's nothing in the squid logs. ...
[02:57] <andycore> I just did a fresh install, and the gnome settings daemon won't start, giving me the error "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-0SKKUXZDc7: Connection refused"
[02:57] <Werdna> ... Any ideas on how I can figure out what's going wrong?
[02:57] <charlie-jayne> fenerli: i'm a nubie, I don't understand
[02:57] <alexander_> bronzejr, one option is the drivers on the ATI website
[02:57] <bughunter2> NForc3r: so why do you even post it here if you know it's your NIC >_<
[02:57] <crew3> fenerli: say R={[1,1]=0 1 0,[1,2}
[02:58] <NForc3r> bughunter2, lol i didnt Know it was!!! i was repairing my ego
[02:58] <bronzejr> alexander_ - I can't really find them there. I go to linux -> x86 -> mobility radeon -> but there's no hd 2300
[02:58] <bughunter2> NForc3r: now we're getting to the root of the problem </drphil_mode_off>
[02:58] <bughunter2> :)
[02:58] <bughunter2> lol
[02:58] <NForc3r> lol haha
[02:59] <frost0> thx all for your help.
[02:59] <crew3> fenerli: say R={[1,1]=0 1 0,[1,2]=0 0.25 0} I need the output var=[0 1 0]
[02:59] <need_destructi0n> i spent more time tryto think why dont work here lol and i thinking in windows it works lol yes yes stable but but but lose to many time inthis :x
[02:59] <TURBO_BANANA> i am trying ot start GUI on a lastest server release but it gives me that the monitor range is out of friquency what should i do anyone knows?
[02:59] <int_main> bughunter2: well, KDE is ugly. All possible themes. They're all ugly. So the card works faster to make up for the ugliness
[02:59] <bughunter2> NForc3r: i need to repair my ego too, NIC == Network Interface Card instead of "Integrated"
[02:59] <bughunter2> int_main: not true
[02:59] <NForc3r> bughunter2, On the installer it says 2 cards found this -> " Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Fa"
[02:59] <bughunter2> int_main: my KDE is very tight
[02:59] <un_dave> hey all, i'm attempting to start vncserver at startup...
[02:59] <zack> my friend installed over 100 apps in synaptic i would like to know an easy way of removing them.
[02:59] <NForc3r> bughunter2, and some legacy card
[03:00] <un_dave> but i dont seem to have a vnc file in my /etc/init.d/ folder
[03:00] <bughunter2> NForc3r: then go for it :)
[03:00] <calc> zack: if you know when he installed them you can check the timestamps in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[03:00] <int_main> bughunter2: but how can a theme deal with the clutter of excessive toolbars and icons? functional, yes, but all those buttons and side panels make a clutter that a theme cannot remove
[03:00] <calc> zack: then uninstall the packages installed during that timeframe
[03:00] <alexander_> int_main, can you point to any resources on downgrading to Edgy off the top of  your head? or does it need to be a clean reinstall
[03:00] <bughunter2> int_main: i agree KDE is messy
[03:00] <bughunter2> but the themes aren't ugly
[03:01] <bronzejr> NForc3r - a semiconductor is a material that may achieve certain features, such as conduction electricity only one way. A good example of a semiconductor is silisium
[03:01] <calc> zack: thats assuming you don't know what packages he installed already
[03:01] <bughunter2> int_main: i agree all the side panels suck too
[03:01] <bughunter2> i hate vertical text
[03:01] <calc> zack: once you know what he installed it is fairly easy to tell the package manager to uninstall them
[03:01] <CorruptTerrorist> is it possible to set up an incoming/outgoing mail server on ubuntu?
[03:01] <bronzejr> conducting*
[03:01] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: yes
[03:01] <int_main> alexander_: ah, I think you should do a clean install of Edgy... who knows what random errors would happen from going backwards...
[03:01] <zack> calc,  theres just to many to know what he install, id like to do a fresh install but without the cd
[03:02] <bughunter2> !dovecot
[03:02] <ubotu> IMAP and POP are protocols for fetching email. The officially-supported server in Ubuntu is Dovecot (packages "dovecot-imapd" for IMAP, and "dovecot-pop3d" for POP) - See also !MailServer for information on the SMTP protocol
[03:02] <bfrog> they're cleaning a lot of the random crap up with kde 4
[03:02] <bfrog> hopefully it'll be more functional when 4.2 comes around, the time I'll give it a serious consideration
[03:02] <calc> zack: ah then if you know the when it is easy to find out the package names by looking in that dir i listed earlier
[03:02] <bughunter2> bfrog: 4.1 will be okay :)
[03:02] <alexander_> int_main, ok thanks, I'll play around some more and then eventually probably follow your advice
[03:02] <NForc3r> bughunter2, is this it "Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller"
[03:02] <bfrog> yeah, but will ktorrent, kmail, etc all be there?
[03:02] <bughunter2> NForc3r: snd-hda-intel
[03:02] <bfrog> I think I'm gonna be waiting til 4.2 for most of the apps
[03:02] <CorruptTerrorist> bughunter2, that tells me nothing... i have a dyndns domain and i want to be able to receive emails from it and also send emails via my isp
[03:03] <calc> zack: eg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    941 2008-03-14 23:27 xserver-xorg-video-intel.list
[03:03] <jonathan_> I might switch to KDE at 4.1 release
[03:03] <jonathan_> I haven't used KDE in years
[03:03] <NForc3r> bughunter2, what does that mean?
[03:03] <calc> zack: you can tell i installed xserver-xorg-video-intel package at 23:27 on 2008-03-14
[03:03] <bughunter2> NForc3r: it's the module you should `modprobe -r`
[03:03] <zack> ok
[03:03] <NForc3r> ah
[03:03] <un_dave> could someone explain to me how to install vncserver as a service? i've installed vnc4server, but it doesnt seem to run on startup.
[03:03] <zack> i think i got it thanks
[03:03] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: you asked me for incoming/outgoing mail server, so i answered
[03:03] <tretle> could someone help me with this problem I have, running gutsy and I cant install, uninstall with the package manager or .deb files
[03:03] <tretle> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-gnonlin_0.10.9-1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libx11-dev' is missing final newline
[03:03] <tretle> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-gnonlin_0.10.9-1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libx11-dev' is missing final newline
[03:03] <int_main> alexander_: OK, good luck! We should have known to get nvidia cards.... at lesat the newest ati cards will have an open source driver, "radeonhd", soon...
[03:04] <CorruptTerrorist> bughunter2, and what would dovecot do?
[03:04] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: use the SMTP server of your ISP and setup your own incoming mail server, easy
[03:04] <NForc3r> bughunter2, i typed in that modprobe line and pressed enter and nothing happend. just went onto a new line
[03:04] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: RTFM - read the fine manual
[03:04] <tretle> libx11-dev seems to be the same error for all of it
[03:04] <bronzejr> tretle - the reason is that libx11-dev is missing final newline
[03:04] <bughunter2> NForc3r: NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS
[03:04] <bughunter2> :D
[03:04] <bughunter2> NForc3r: always remember that
[03:04] <NForc3r> kewl :D
[03:04] <bughunter2> NForc3r: if in doubt, type `echo $?` to see the error code
[03:04] <bughunter2> NForc3r: an error code of 0 == success, by default
[03:04] <tretle> bronzejr : what do I do?
[03:05] <alexander_> int_main, yeah, for me it was more of a price issue - didn't really dwell on the type of card much (nor did I think about installing linux much then)
[03:05] <bronzejr> tretle - I would try to update/reinstall the component.
[03:05] <CorruptTerrorist> what it doesn't tell me about dovecot is... can it be used to receive email?
[03:05] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: first use google, then ask here
[03:05] <bughunter2> please
[03:05] <OrionFyre> anyone who can point me in the direction of a tutorial on configuring a wireless connection in a windowless enviroment? :)
[03:05] <tretle> bronzejr, I cant install or uninstall anything because of it
[03:05] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: mail is received through an e-mail client, not through a server
[03:06] <bughunter2> indirectly a server receives too, of course
[03:06] <CorruptTerrorist> bughunter2, not true... for the client to read mail... it must connect to the server which has received the mail
[03:06] <bronzejr> tretle - then I can't help you. I'm pretty new myself :(
[03:07] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: yeah, that's why i said 'indirectly a server receives too, of course'
[03:07] <SpookyET> Wow, Banshee 1.0 Alpha is fast as hell. Much faster than Rhythmbox.
[03:07] <alexander_> is there a way to save a list of the packages currently installed so that this can be duplicated later (as when downgrading to Edgy)?
[03:08] <lsmobrian> Orion: any encryption?
[03:08] <OrionFyre> lsmobrian no, open network
[03:08] <bughunter2> alexander_: dpkg -l afaik
[03:08] <nikrud> !clone | alexander_
[03:08] <ubotu> alexander_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[03:09] <bughunter2> nice feature
[03:09] <alexander_> nikrud, thanks
[03:09] <alexander_> !automate
[03:09] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[03:09] <int_main> OrionFyre: I have no personal experience with this, but take a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476655
[03:09] <alexander_> !cloning
[03:09] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[03:09] <NForc3r> how good is mono? i program with C#.net and vb.net on windows... how similar is it?
[03:09] <lsmobrian> Orion: look at the manpage for iwconfig  "man iwconfig"
[03:09] <bughunter2> NForc3r: just try it ;)
[03:10] <nikrud> !msgthebot > alexander_  (see pm)
[03:10] <bughunter2> don't be too afraid
[03:10] <OrionFyre> i did lsmobrian but it didn't help. I get to receiving packets but i cannot ping the router or any site
[03:10] <NForc3r> downloading it now.. while i wait i just felt i should ask
[03:11] <bughunter2> NForc3r: i see
[03:11] <alexander_> nikrud, neat, thanks
[03:11] <alexander_> nikrud, any idea if the cloning method works across releases (e.g. 7.10 >> 6.10)
[03:12] <nikrud> alexander_: yes
[03:12] <deuryte> hey guys-gals,  can some one give me the scripts for enabling dvd to play, i think they started with wget ???
[03:12] <CorruptTerrorist> bughunter2, have you used dovecot?
[03:12] <NForc3r> i really hope the world moves onto using linux.. from what i can see people are begining to migrate to it.. wine is progressing nicely. quite a bit runs on it
[03:12] <bughunter2> CorruptTerrorist: yes but i'm going to bed now ;)
[03:13] <ccharles`> deuryte: I just use VLC from the repos. Nothing else needed :-).
[03:13] <deuryte> ccharles`: yes, but to play store bought dvd, it takes 3 certain scripts to enable it
[03:14] <OrionFyre> concerning my problem I'm installing arch linux on my laptop and here is the post i made over there. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=45508
[03:14] <int_main> !dvd | deuryte
[03:14] <ubotu> deuryte: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:14] <ccharles`> deuryte: really? I watch commercial (region 1) movies all the time. Maybe I did something that I can't remember...
[03:14] <ylon> installing ubuntu gutsy on xenserver and it is hanging at the install onset, anyone have any experience installing unbutu with xen in the domU?
[03:14] <billenium_> I receive an error when trying to install an nvidia driver... It is "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing". How do i do so?
[03:14] <deuryte> ubotu:thanks, you guys do good work here......
[03:16] <nikrud> Billenium: log out of the desktop, hit ctl-alt-f2 , log in, type  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop, do your nvidia stuff, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start , ctl-alt-f7 if needed
[03:17] <lbakalinsky> I'm using a Sony Laptop and currently running Hardy. Anyways, I can't figure out how to get my laptop to dim when my power cord is pulled out. It only dims when I start my laptop without a power cord, and then I can't maximize the brightness, only decrease it. Any ideas what I should start looking at. Becasue I don't want to have to manually dim my screen.
[03:18] <nikrud> lbakalinsky: ask on #ubuntu+1 for hardy, they're more up on it
[03:18] <citra_cutez_> candi4
[03:18] <NForc3r> how do i get ubuntu to automount my hda2 partition
[03:19] <nikrud> !ntfs3g | NForc3r
[03:19] <ubotu> NForc3r: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:19] <citra_cutez_> candi4
[03:19] <NForc3r> cant linux already write to ntfs?
[03:20] <nikrud> NForc3r: yes, but that page tells you how to set up to mount your partitions automatically.
[03:20] <Mephisto> i want to install ubuntu (using the minimal CD install) and it doesn't seem to detect my network. the networking happens over usb though, any ideas on where to start to get it to work?
[03:20] <nikrud> NForc3r: heck, that page is ancient.
[03:20] <lsmobrian> Orion:  u might be able to add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:21] <NForc3r> i dont see how to mount it there...?
[03:21] <NForc3r> ill be back in a sec hold on
[03:21] <lsmobrian> Orion:  just set up network static and add a line "wireless-essid CUDE"
[03:23] <lsmobrian> Orion: this site looks pretty helpful with wireless commands http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm
[03:27] <billenium_> How do i stop the X server so i can install my graphics card driver?
[03:28] <int_main> Billenium: log out of the desktop, hit ctl-alt-f2 , log in, type  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop, do your nvidia stuff, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start , ctl-alt-f7 if needed
[03:28] <j__> What's the command to apt upgrade? sudo ...??
[03:28] <billenium_> ty
[03:28] <Fryguy--> j__: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:31] <MagoonD> i need help with unraring files that are xxx01.rar to xxx49.rar how do I do it they came with a .sfv file
[03:31] <nikrud> int_main: heh. I just saw you stole my line :)
[03:31] <Fryguy--> MagoonD: unrar x xxx01.rar
[03:32] <Devyll> how can I install mod_rewrite for apache2 ? I can't finde it with aptitude search
[03:32] <Fryguy--> should find all of the other ones and "do the right thing"
[03:32] <MagoonD> Fryguy--, ok let me try that
[03:32] <Eegras> Is there any way to install Ubuntu without booting from the CD?  My CD drive is very slow.
[03:32] <int_main> nikrud: I just saved you from retyping it. It was a good line, very choice.
[03:33] <brent113> sure, install from a usb
[03:33] <icesword> !install | Eegras
[03:33] <ubotu> Eegras: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:33] <Fryguy--> Eegras: you need to boot from SOMETHING, cd is probably the easies to boot from, and then just do a network install or whatever
[03:33] <Starnestommy> Devyll: I think it may be included by default with the apache2 package
[03:33] <Black_Magic> Are there any guides and GUI's For using Sprint Broadband Cards in ubuntu?
[03:33] <MagoonD> Fryguy--, that didnt work the file name has a space in it
[03:34] <Fryguy--> MagoonD: so the escape the filename (or just let bash tab-complete it for you)
[03:34] <Devyll> Starnestommy and what is the name of the module ? I don't have mod_rewrite or something similar in avalable modules directory
[03:34] <Fryguy--> i'd imagine mod_rewrite is available by default
[03:34] <MagoonD> Fryguy--, so if i press tab it will complete the name?
[03:34] <Fryguy--> Devyll: have you even tried to see if it is available?
[03:34] <Fryguy--> MagoonD: yes
[03:34] <Starnestommy> Devyll: it's just rewrite.  The .load file is /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load
[03:35] <nikrud> Devyll: you should already have it, it's placed in /etc/apache2/mods-available by apache2.2-common
[03:35] <myusername> whats the best gnome irc?
[03:35] <j__> Quick question The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[03:35] <Starnestommy> myusername: xchat or xchat-gnome
[03:35] <Fryguy--> myusername: the best irc client is irssi
[03:35] <Devyll> Yes . error log file says invalid command 'rewriteengine'
[03:35] <nikrud> Devyll: sudo a2enmod rewrite should enable it
[03:35] <brent113> j__ you're having trouble with vbox?
[03:35] <alexander_> int_main, a quick question re the ATI problem
[03:35] <myusername> i have got xchat-gnome
[03:35] <j__> brent113 yeap
[03:35] <Fryguy--> j__: you need to add your user to the vboxusers group, and then log back in
[03:35] <MagoonD> Fryguy--, that worked thanks
[03:36] <j__> Fryguy how.?
[03:36] <alexander_> int_main, is 3D support available in the 8.28 diver that comes with edgy
[03:36] <int_main> j__: click system>>administration>>users-and-groups, then "manage groups" and go to "vboxusers" and then add yourself
[03:36] <Fryguy--> j__: the easiest way is through administration | users and groups
[03:36] <Fryguy--> or just etc the /etc/group file
[03:37] <Fryguy--> err, edit
[03:37] <nikrud> j__: a good tool is adduser <username> <group>
[03:37] <int_main> alexander_: must be, here's a review of the 3d performance: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=532&num=3
[03:38] <alexander_> int_main, thanks
[03:38] <ConstyXIV> if you're running several apps that run on some sort of VM (Mono, in this case), does each app open it's own VM, or do they all share the VM?
[03:38] <Johnson> hi all, i have an ssh question, if im sshing to a network and i want to open a file on gvim on my computer if the host doesnt have gvim how would I do that
[03:39] <myusername> stupid question how do you guys make the slash bar stand straight?
[03:39] <Fryguy--> Johnson: vim supports opening remote files via netrw, or mount the remote filesystem using something like fuse-sshfs
[03:39] <Starnestommy> myusername: which slash bar?
[03:39] <nikrud> myusername: on my us keyboard, its shift backslash, above the enter key
[03:39] <int_main> myusername: viagra
[03:40] <myusername> ok cool thanks nikrud
[03:40]  * nikrud pretends to o4o int_main 
[03:40] <Scunizi> ConstyXIV, vm requires an operating system of some  sort.. that is you can run winxp  in a vm and programs within that vm in windows.. mostly apps in a vm run only within the vm not individual windows.
[03:40] <brent113> So i have an ubuntu swap question: my system manager says using 0 out of 0, but the ram is completely used and the system is lagging.  What's the problem?
[03:40] <myusername> swappines
[03:40] <Starnestommy> Johnson: if it's a vm like java or mono, i think each program uses a separate VM
[03:40] <nikrud> brent113: you don't have any swap
[03:41] <brent113> right, how do I add it
[03:41] <Fryguy--> brent113: is all of your ram actually being used or do you just think it is?
[03:41] <myusername> partion editor
[03:41] <ConstyXIV> Scunizi: wrong sort of VM.  I mean VM, like interpreted languages, as in C#, java, etc.
[03:41] <nikrud> brent113: did you create a swap partition when you installed?
[03:41] <Johnson> i think im gonna mount the file system
[03:41] <CindyP> My PC running Ubuntu won't boot to logon screen after last updates installed.  I am reliant on the desktop.  How to start to troubleshoot? Can you point me to a Community guide or somewhere to start?
[03:41] <xtc> anyone onubuntu server
[03:41] <xtc> ?
[03:41] <Fryguy--> xtc: ask a real question
[03:41] <Scunizi> ConstyXIV, ah..ok.. well I tried. not sure about your situation.. I'm not a programmer..
[03:42] <brent113> nikrud: ahh, I think I know the problem, I moved a couple partitions around and might have renamed it.
[03:42] <int_main> CindyP: what version of ubuntu was it?
[03:42] <nikrud> brent113: that'll do it
[03:42] <CindyP> 7.10
[03:42] <brent113> nikrud: so I have a swap, but it changed from sda5 to sda2, how do I update ubuntu
[03:42] <lsmobrian> CindyP: what happens when u boot... does it goto a login prompt that is text?
[03:42] <Fryguy--> brent113: just edit /etc/fstab file
[03:42] <nikrud> brent113: in /etc/fstab , change the partition that swap is expected on.  blkid in a terminal will tell you the uuid of your partitions
[03:43] <brent113> thanks, one more question, what's your opinion on tmpfs filsystems
[03:43] <Fryguy--> brent113: it's a filesystem, for temporary files, what more do you want to know?
[03:43] <CindyP> no - just blank screen.  I can catch the bootup with esc at GRUB then boot into recovery mode and just see a root text prompt in front of me
[03:43] <myusername> cindyp did you try startx ?
[03:44] <nikrud> CindyP: at that root prompt, try running   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver xorg, that should get you back to a default X setup
[03:44] <_Grifter_> hi, can encrypted DVD's be played in Ubuntu? And if yes then what needs to be done to get it to work?
[03:44] <nikrud> CindyP: that was xserver-xorg , missed the dash
[03:44] <brent113> fryguy: well mine was originally defaulted to /tmp, but firefox has trouble when creating large temp files in that directory.  Should I just get rid of it or is there a noticable benfit
[03:44] <rybotsky> hey can anyone help me archive a file into tar.gz format
[03:44] <nikrud> !dvd | _Grifter_
[03:44] <ubotu> _Grifter_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:44] <rybotsky> what program do i use?
[03:44] <Fryguy--> rybotsky: 'tar'
[03:44] <icesword> you use command
[03:44] <icesword> haha
[03:44] <CindyP> nikrud - should I try startx first?
[03:44] <Devyll> thanks guys
[03:45] <Fryguy--> brent113: i haven't had any problems like that
[03:45] <nikrud> CindyP: you can, but I doubt it would work
[03:45] <int_main> nikrud: what irc client do you use?
[03:45] <myusername> Grifter use automatix
[03:45] <Scunizi> rybotsky, right mouse click and choose archive then it will ask what type
[03:45] <nikrud> int_main: xchat
[03:45] <Fryguy--> myusername: automatix is an AWFUL recommendation
[03:45] <nikrud> no retro terminal apps for me
[03:45] <_Grifter_> thanks nikrud :)
[03:45] <myusername> why is that?
[03:45] <int_main> nikrud: how do you make it hide your hostname in /whois :)
[03:45] <nikrud> !automatix | myusername
[03:45] <ubotu> myusername: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[03:46] <Fryguy--> myusername: it has been deprecated for a long time now by standard repositories + medibuntu, and there are widespread reports of it hosing peoples entire systems
[03:46] <Fryguy--> int_main: that is a feature of freenode, not his irc client
[03:46] <nikrud> int_main: you mean the pdpc stuff?
[03:46] <CindyP> OK - Nikrud will give it a go
[03:47] <nikrud> int_main: you can get a mask, ask about it in #freenode
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> myusername: have you tried to upgrade yet w/ automatix?
[03:47] <int_main> nikrud, Fryguy--: ok thanks
[03:47] <gdaizishe> Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??
[03:48] <myusername> IndyGunFreak: no i uninstall it immediately after using
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> myusername: lol, thats even sillier
[03:48] <Scunizi> gdaizishe, gad no.. earlier 60's
[03:48] <gdaizishe> My pants just went on a wild rampage through a Long Island Bowling Alley!!
[03:49] <jimmio> Hello all, anyone know of a good video editing program? I'm looking for something close to what I've seen done with Adobe After Effects
[03:49] <myusername> Indygunfreak: why is that i like having my ubuntu clean
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> myusername: well, installing automatix is no way tokeep ubuntu clean... its been discussed here lots of times
[03:49] <Scunizi> jimmio, lives is coming along nicely.. check it out on www.getdeb.net
[03:49] <myusername> im new here
[03:50] <Scunizi> myusername, if you use automatix and then want to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu you'll probably end up with a non-usable system.. stay away from it..
[03:50] <nikrud> myusername: automatix filled a need once (poorly) but what functionality it has left is being added to ubuntu proper
[03:50] <ubuntu-007> hi
[03:51] <myusername> o well thats really fun </insert sarcasm />
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> nikrud: exactly
[03:51] <ubuntu-007> i am trying to install from a cd but some files are corrupt. how can i tell the installer to get any non-available file from net or remote ubuntu server
[03:52] <myusername> thanks guys i wont use it next time
[03:52] <nikrud> ubuntu-007: you'd have to reburn the cd after checking the md5sum of your iso download. No other option, unless you try for the minimal cd. See pm's
[03:52] <nikrud> !minimal > ubuntu-007
[03:52] <song> Hello All
[03:53] <nikrud> !md5 > ubuntu-007
[03:53] <ubuntu-007> thanks nikrud
[03:54] <Fryguy--> I'd highly recommend installing an operating system from stable media heh
[03:54] <xtc> on ubuntu server, if you install it with everything default, what services will it install ?
[03:54] <ishegdaiz> I am a traffic light, and Alan Ginsberg kidnapped my laundry in 1927!
[03:54] <brent113> so whoever was helping me with my swap problem, I've decided to use a swap file, but [sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/2Gb.swap bs=1G count=2] gives "memory exhausted" error.  what's going on here
[03:54] <Fryguy--> brent113: why are you doing that?
[03:55] <Fryguy--> just make a partition, mkswap it, then swapon it, then add it to fstab
[03:55] <ubuntu-007> nikrud: one more question, i have like 16gb dskspc. Is it ok to go with 200mb for /boot, 8gb for /, 2gb for swap and 5gb+ for /var. thanks
[03:55] <brent113> fryguy, why shouldn't i?
[03:55] <myusername> brent113 just use a partition editor
[03:55] <Fryguy--> brent113: zeroing a swap partition is pointless
[03:55] <brent113> myusername: I can't becuase I don't want to shift all my partitions left
[03:55] <Fryguy--> (btw, the problem is probably you using a 1G blocksize instead of something sane)
[03:55] <Scunizi> ubuntu-007, 1gig max for swap
[03:55] <brent113> I read use n to 2*n your ram for swap, and I have 2 gigs of ram
[03:55] <brent113> so I think 2 gigs is reasonable
[03:55] <Foxamemnon> Hello.  I'm looking for some help getting my desktop system to suspend/hibernate.  I'm running the latest 8.04 alpha.  Is this the right place to ask about that?
[03:56] <nikrud> ubuntu-007: sure, that would work well. You don't need a separate boot unless you're using lvm or maybe raid though. 2xram up to 2gb , is fair
[03:56] <Fryguy--> 2*ram for swap is a long, outdated recommendation
[03:56] <brent113> so what should I use, 1 gig?
[03:56] <Fryguy--> that made sense back when 128-256mb of ram was a lot
[03:56] <nikrud> useful to ensure enough ram for suspend
[03:56] <Fryguy--> 1 gig is probably more than plenty
[03:56] <Scunizi> brent113, waste of space.. swap is hardly used.. 1gig is enough
[03:56] <brent113> by the way, I use this machine to run vms, more ram is good
[03:56] <nikrud> erm, disk space for hibernate, that is
[03:56] <Fryguy--> ram is good, swap is useless
[03:57] <ubuntu-007> nikrud: thanks.
[03:57] <brent113> i am talking to you now from windows in vbox, I need the swap
[03:57] <CindyP> nikrud: nothing seems to be happening. I entered at root@Calanthe"~# prompt the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure pcritical xserver-xorg
[03:57] <myusername> hey guys whats the best gtk torrent app?
[03:57] <brent113> fryguy: so anyways, why do I get a memory exhausted error
[03:57] <nikrud> CindyP: ok, now type exit. If all went well, you should get the login screen. If you had to boot to some other os to talk, just reboot and try normal
[03:57] <Fryguy--> brent113: probably because you are using a very large block size and the linux kernel isn't going to give a userland application that much memory
[03:58] <billenium_> !compiz
[03:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:58] <brent113> gryguy: so how do I make it work? even 1gb fails
[03:58] <ubuntu-007> nikrud: is it possible chosen name of the box may conflict with installation ?
[03:58] <tarelerulz> Have any of you used mkvmerg's gui ? I just want to add some chapter and it is not very clear at all how to do that
[03:58] <Fryguy--> brent113: you were using 1gb before, use a much smaller block size
[03:58] <CindyP> nikrud: Luckily I have another pc in the room for this chat.  exit didn't do anything either - it doesn't seem like the commands are "taking"
[03:59] <brent113> fryguy: so 512 Mb works, but I wanted more, any way to do that?
[03:59] <Fryguy--> ...
[03:59] <Fryguy--> brent113: do you know what dd is and how it works?
[03:59] <nikrud> CindyP: when you ran   dpkg-reconfigure  -pcritical xserver-xorg , did it say something about saving the original?
[04:00] <brent113> from what I know it allocates space for a file
[04:00] <CindyP> nikrud: no didn't say anything - just a new line and nothing else
[04:00] <Fryguy--> brent113: use a smaller blocksize
[04:00] <nikrud> CindyP: with a new prompt, right?
[04:00] <radhios> hi, how can i install screenlets on gutsy, what repo i need?
[04:00] <CindyP> nikrud - no no new prompt either
[04:00] <myusername> whats the best gnome torrent app?
[04:01] <Fryguy--> myusername: if you insist on using a gui, deluge is probably the best bet
[04:01] <Scunizi> !torrent | myusername
[04:01] <ubotu> myusername: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[04:01] <nikrud> CindyP: ctl-alt-f2 , what do you see?
[04:01] <myusername> cool thanks guys
[04:01] <CindyP> nikrud - flashing cursor in top left corner of screen
[04:01] <brent113> fryguy: OHHHH i see what you did there.  2*1G != 2048 * 1M, thanks!
[04:01] <alexander_> if downgrading from 7.10 to 6.10, what are the most significant differences in usability I'm likely to run into? I'm new to linux and the long time spent fixing problems is the biggest drawback for me
[04:01] <nikrud> CindyP: clt-alt-f1, back to the first screen?
[04:02] <CindyP> nikrud - yes
[04:02] <nikrud> CindyP: try ctl-c , do you get a prompt?
[04:02] <CindyP> nikrud - no
[04:02] <Scunizi> alexander_, why would you want to downgrade? the next  version comes out next month then you can upgrade
[04:03] <nikrud> CindyP: ok, something bad happened. Reboot is necessary
[04:03] <alexander_> Scunizi, a driver issue with ATI Radeon Mobility 9000; I was told Edgy has the right driver already installed
[04:03] <CindyP> nikrud - let me try rebooting - should I choose recovery mode again when I interrupt GRUB?
[04:03] <alexander_> Scunizi, it's an old video card
[04:04] <int_main> alexander_: there are some scrfeenshots here, for starters: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%206.10
[04:04] <nikrud> CindyP: try the normal. If you get to something about rc.local , but no command prompt hit ctl-alt-f2
[04:04] <Fryguy--> speaking of next month, i'm looking forward to JACK
[04:04] <fragged> Mhm, how would I set up two instances of xorg, so I hit ctrl+alt+F(Something) to switch to different instances?
[04:04] <nikrud> I don't know JACK ;p
[04:05] <Fryguy--> err wait, it's not JACK, oh man what is the name of the new sound subsystem
[04:05] <Fryguy--> puresound?
[04:05] <nikrud> pulseaudio I think
[04:05] <Scunizi> alexander_, I'm not up on ati drivers but someone here should be able to help with that card.. the next version should have better recognition  of it as well.
[04:05] <Fryguy--> yah that's it, lol what a brainfart there :(
[04:05] <nikrud> supposed to integrate nicely with jack so you're mostly right anyway
[04:05] <BobSlob> i just installed hardy... but now i'm having problems getting packages... getting 404 errors, any ideas?
[04:05] <int_main> Scunizi: sorry, but that's wrong. ATI purposefully removed support for his card in the newer versions
[04:06] <Fryguy--> nikrud: my issue is i use digital out from my soundcard, which has some issues sometimes
[04:06] <nikrud> BobSlob: ask on #ubuntu+1 they handle hardy for now
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> BobSlob: yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:06] <BobSlob> oh, my bad =P
[04:06] <Scunizi> int_main, can you help him get it going on gutsy?  that's why I stick with nvidia
[04:06] <Fryguy--> it's beta for a reason :)
[04:06] <alexander_> Scunizi, yes int_main was very helpful, but it seems that things are at a dead end
[04:06] <int_main> Scunizi: I already tried.. :(
[04:07] <nikrud> beta is on the 20th, or scheduled (no hardy discussions except Ima gonna try that one)
[04:07] <Scunizi> alexander_, nvidia cards come pretty cheap these days.. you don't need the latest and greatest.. the 6000 series works great
[04:08] <CindyP> nikrud:  tried the normal reboot - when i got to the point where it looks like it had hung I hit ctrl-alt-f2 and now am looking at a very chunky display that says ubuntu 7.10 Calanthe tty2 then on next line Calanthe login:   It is all in very course resolution
[04:08] <BobSlob> okay, another question... using mythbuntu (gutsy based) i'm getting "display server has shut down 6 times in 90 seconds" when trying to boot the cd... any ideas there?
[04:08] <int_main> alexander_: you can see the release notes here: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/610  and you can see the versions of the programs here: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[04:08] <alexander_> int_main, I have already, thanks
[04:08] <nikrud> CindyP: yeah, thats a working console. Very old school. Log in there, you'll see a familar prompt. Run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg there
[04:09] <E3PL> is anyone here vaguely familiar with linux mint?
[04:09] <ubuntu-007> ubuntu 7.10 supports nVidia 6800 or I will need to download drivers ?
[04:09] <calc> E3PL: just that i saw it mentioned as the name of a distro
[04:09] <nikrud> ubuntu-007: it's supported
[04:09] <fragged> E3PL, I'm sure #linuxmint or whatever there IRC room is called would be.
[04:09] <Scunizi> E3PL, I like their splash screen. nice.. beyond that nope
[04:09] <pdb_> has anyone here tried using the lmsensors in gdesklets?
[04:10] <alexander_> int_main, I'm wondering more in terms of  usability; now that I installed linux a few weeks ago after a few years since my last attempt, I've found the automated software installation to be a great improvement
[04:10] <ubuntu-007> nikrud: great
[04:10] <alexander_> int_main, it's things like this that I'm wondering about - is my productivity likely to drop in moving to 6.10
[04:11] <int_main> alexander_: ubuntu 6.10 uses the same software installing system. also, the ubuntu 6.10 cd is a live cd, so, apart from using the vesa driver on the live cd, you can test the general usability...
[04:11] <CindyP> nikrud - I entered my userid then password then it gives me a message about Ubuntu comes with no warranty etc. etc. but uses up the whole screen and can't get command prompt.   Is there a keystroke to scroll down or clear the screen and get a command prompt?
[04:11] <E3PL> there are only 3 people in #linuxmint, all i need is someone that has at least installed it
[04:11] <alexander_> int_main, good point, and in fact it's already downloading
[04:11] <ubuntu-007> nikrud: seems like the iso img is corrupt or whatever. Can i download 8.04 and burn the img Using Live Cd ?
[04:11] <E3PL> a thousand people in here, i know at least one of you has installed ubuntus younger brother...
[04:11] <nikrud> CindyP: you should get a command prompt, the usual  user@host $ . If you don't see that, there's something seriously wrong with your system, and over my head.
[04:11] <Scunizi> E3PL, perhaps just pose your question.. what  you really want answered..
[04:12] <nikrud> ubuntu-007: you could, but you'd need to mount a drive to download the cd to. I'm not familiar with how the live cd works, I never use it
[04:12] <alexander_> int_main, you mean that the vesa driver has to be used or cannot be  used on the live cd?
[04:12] <CindyP> nikrud - uugh - I've got my 7.10 CDs sitting next to me - could I try to boot from CD?  This all worked a while back - should I reinstall?
[04:13] <nick_> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on a new laptop with Windows (dual-boot) but when I choose the linux kernel in GRUB it just goes to a black screen.
[04:13] <fragged> E3PL, google is your friend
[04:13] <E3PL> im trying to install ubuntu mint from a dvd but when i boot from it i get an error and my only option is to restart to get the same error, it says mint cannot read the boot disk, is mint unable to be installed from a DVD even though its properly written, IE: i can install ubuntu or run any other bootable iso?
[04:13] <nick_> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:13] <fragged> E3PL, stick to a distro that treats you like an idiot if you cannot figure that out
[04:13] <Scunizi> E3PL, could be or it could be a bad burn
[04:13] <nikrud> CindyP: maybe. If you have a lot of time invested in this system you might want to ask again for help from smarter people. Saturday nights (my time, anyway) are pretty hit or miss on help, though
[04:13] <int_main> alexander_: my impression is, I've always use the vesa driver on the live cds... because they want you to reset to install the fglrx driver, and on a live cd, that accomplishes nothing
[04:14] <CindyP> Nikrud - OK thanks - here i am sunday afternoon in Australia so bright eyed and awake.  THanks for your help
[04:14] <E3PL> fragged, just because you can read binary or whatever else you get your kicks from doesnt give you the right to seek people who need help (by being here) and make an ass out of yourself
[04:14] <E3PL> im not impressed
[04:15] <BobSlob> anyone get an error trying to boot the live cd about the display server shutting down 6 times in 90 seconds?
[04:15] <fragged> E3PL, your sitting here assuming other people dont have better things to do than answer your stupid questions. (some) of us have lives and do not give a flying fuck if some idiot cannot figure out the most simplest of problems, nor use google =)
[04:15] <E3PL> i was thinking it might be a bad download Scunizi (since i burned it at 4x) but i dont want to make 5 copies of it and then find out linux mint doesnt like dvd's
[04:16] <Saint`Diamond> Hey, I was wondering. I love ubuntu, but I also love Vista. Is it possible to put both on the same machine without having to format my Vista. It's on a same HD.
[04:16] <Scunizi> E3PL, will the DL fit on a cd? if so try that.
[04:16] <stdin> !language | fragged
[04:16] <ubotu> fragged: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:16] <Fryguy--> Saint`Diamond: yes, ubuntu will set up dualboot for you by default when you install it if vista is already installed
[04:16] <alexander_> int_main, I see; would you say 6,10 has any stability issues (relative to 7.10)?
[04:16] <E3PL> i dont have cd's available Scunizi
[04:16] <int_main> Saint`Diamond: ZOMG! YOU LOVE VISTA!! IMPOSSIBLE
[04:16] <nikrud> !google | fragged
[04:16] <ubotu> fragged: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[04:16] <fragged> int_main, go back to digg
[04:17] <Saint`Diamond> I do windows programming with VB and C++. And I want to expand to ubuntu.
[04:17] <nikrud> fragged: cool it down
[04:17] <LinuxMonkey> !derivatives | E3PL
[04:17] <ubotu> E3PL: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[04:17] <int_main> alexander_: it was so long ago, but I really don't remeber don't remember any troubles
[04:17] <rewati> hi i have just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i am not gettin any sound on my speaker but i can get sound from headphone
[04:17] <int_main> fragged: hehe OK
[04:17] <Scunizi> E3PL, and there's the rub.. sorry I dont have an answer to your question..  mint looks nice but I haven't tried it.
[04:17] <Fryguy--> rewati: take a look at the volume control?
[04:18] <rewati> ok
[04:18] <Saint`Diamond> Will ubuntu do the dual boot without comprimising my vista install. Does it have the ability to pick a spot on the HD without picking sectors at the beginning?
[04:18] <Scunizi> E3PL, what's the draw for you using mint?
[04:18] <Saint`Diamond> Or do I have to use Gparted or whatnot?
[04:18] <bfrog> can I install gnome and kde both without mucking up my menu's ?
[04:18] <rewati> fryguy i did that its workin fine master is full
[04:18] <Fryguy--> Saint`Diamond: ubuntu will do it for you automatically (back up your data just to be sure though)
[04:18] <Scunizi> bfrog, yes
[04:18] <Fryguy--> rewati: what about the other volumes? waveout and such?
[04:18] <bfrog> how??
[04:19] <LinuxMonkey> Saint`Diamond: it installs the boot loader in the MBR, but as long as you have vista installed before hand Ive never seen any issues
[04:19] <codejunky1> Saint DiMOND: PARTIOTION WITH CARE
[04:19] <LinuxMonkey> that too.lol
[04:19] <int_main> fragged: ZOMG! Ron Paul uses Ubuntu to youtube on Kevin Rose's atheism. WTF
[04:19] <Saint`Diamond> Hmmm.
[04:19] <rewati> fryguy i don have wave out there i can just see master pcm and front
[04:19] <nikrud> int_main: he's gone, let him troll elsewhere
[04:19] <xtc> ubuntu is sooo bloated :(
[04:20] <Fryguy--> xtc: yes it is
[04:20] <tux97> hi bobslob did u get ur sound to work?
[04:20] <xtc> it's nice for desktop, it's great actually
[04:20] <int_main> nikrud: ok, I took too long crafting my stereotypes... :(
[04:20] <Fryguy--> xtc: I just switched my server from ubuntu to something else recently
[04:20] <bfrog> maybe its just me being a guy, but this is a semi-funny library name... liboobs
[04:20] <Scunizi> xtc, use ubutnu minimal and install  what you want
[04:20] <alexander_> int_main, btw just came across a post confirming suggestion to install edgy
[04:20] <xtc> but damn it's heavy ><.
[04:20] <Fryguy--> rewati: probably take a look at preferences
[04:21] <Waffle> how do i do a batch conversion of images (like 100 bmp images to 100 jpg images)
[04:21] <Fryguy--> Waffle: imagemagick
[04:21] <codejunky1> xtc: i dont think it is better than fedora
[04:21] <xtc> one question, i just downloaded 7.10, installed it, and upgrade & updated it.... now it takes quite a long time o Load the kernel...  it looks like its looking for a hanged booting process so it can take over.
[04:21] <rewati> fryguy in prefrences also there is no wave out
[04:21] <xtc> codejunky1:  never tried edora
[04:21] <Fryguy--> rewati: so play around with the settings then
[04:22] <Scunizi> Waffle try Mapivi
[04:22] <xtc> :/
[04:22] <bfrog> yum is so slow
[04:22] <Fryguy--> codejunky1: fedora is also designed as a desktop operating system, not a server
[04:22] <codejunky1> i agree
[04:22] <spork969> Fryguy, that was just an example. I really have to convert a bunch of .JPG's to .jpg's
[04:22] <Fryguy--> so just rename?
[04:22] <int_main> alexander_: I should get going. Good luck with Edgy, though. I guess you could have 2 partitions, and keep 7.10 on one, and try out 6.10 on the other...
[04:22] <codejunky1> Fryguy:what i ment was fedora is bloated whne compared to Ubuntu
[04:23] <rewati> fryguy like what???
[04:23] <spork969> Fryguy, yeah, but theres about 100 of them
[04:23] <alexander_> int_main, thanks for your help, yeah I'll consider that as well
[04:23] <Fryguy--> rewati: i don't know, i don't have your hardware, your laptop, or your configuration, you'll have to either play around and figure it out yourself, or google, or hope somebody in here has the exact same hardware you have
[04:23] <Fryguy--> spork969: basic bash scripting can do that for you in 1 line or so
[04:24] <codejunky1> rewati: you removed your head phones an tested?
[04:24] <Fryguy--> codejunky1: yah, I know, i'm just mentioning it because we are talking about server configurations as opposed to desktop configurations
[04:24] <Fryguy--> a more applicable comparison would be to rhel or centos
[04:24] <spork969> fryguy, im a noob, i dont even know what bash _IS_
[04:24] <rewati> codyes i did thatejunkyl
[04:24] <codejunky1> Fryguy : me toot
[04:25] <rewati> codjunkyl yes i did that
[04:25] <Fryguy--> spork969: well now seems like a good time to learn
[04:25] <spork969> fryguy, yes it does
[04:25] <codejunky1> rewathi you checked the sound settings in Desktop> Preferences menu
[04:25] <Saint`Diamond> Well I can always just use VirtualBox to run Ubuntu, but it does'nt give it the support to use it's graphical features such as compiz fusion or let it use linux's beautiful wireless tech.
[04:26] <Fryguy--> spork969: for i in *.JPG; do mv $i ${i%%.JPG}.jpg; done
[04:26] <dpt> Hi
[04:26] <sdads> I have set up QEMU and I am running Windows XP in it. How can I have internet access? I have a 2wire at&t router that has a passkey to be able to connect.
[04:26] <dpt> i just reinstalled ubuntu
[04:26] <dpt> but I have a weird problem, I don't get to run X using startx from console as a normal user
[04:26] <dpt> I can only run startx as root
[04:27] <Scunizi> dpt, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:27] <tux97> i was wondering can u edit a startup file for this os to put a command so it can start my wifi when the puter is turned on?
[04:27] <Fryguy--> sdads: just do a simulated NAT network card (see qemu documentation), or use a better virtualization system (virtualbox)
[04:27] <sdads> Fryguy: virtualbox = free = better?
[04:27] <bluewraith> tux97, are you using ndiswrapper?
[04:27] <Fryguy--> sdads: yes
[04:27] <Gopher> here's a question, i have a TV on s-video connection, and i'm trying to extend my screen onto the TV so that I can watch DVDs on it
[04:27] <tux97> yes
[04:27] <Saint`Diamond> I am using Innotek's virtualbox.
[04:27] <sdads> Fryguy: then Ill try =o
[04:27] <dpt> i egt this error:  (xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)googled it but did not found a way to solve it, so i had to come here)
[04:28] <Saint`Diamond> But it seems to favor the win OS's
[04:28] <sdads> Fryguy: any good website for info?
[04:28] <bluewraith> tux97, do you have to modprobe ndiswrapper each time you boot?
[04:28] <dpt> I don't want to run GDM, i don't want to start any login manager
[04:28] <tux97> yes
[04:28] <Fryguy--> sdads: google virtualbox, first result will probably be interesting
[04:28] <dpt> it should work withouth GDM, shouldn't it?
[04:28] <bluewraith> tux97, ok.. just a sec
[04:28] <sdads> Fryguy: lol I have already some pages just would like to know if you had one good
[04:28] <tux97> thank you bluewraith now i get help lol
[04:29] <Scunizi> dpt, startx does the same thing.. the way I mentioned is the correct way of starting gui
[04:29] <spork969> fryguy, "mv: missing destination file operand '.jpg'"
[04:29] <Fryguy--> dpt: you'll probably have to jump through a lot of hoops for that to work, enable user level access to the graphics hardware and stuff
[04:29] <ubuntu-007> when is 8.04 expected to release ? is it worth to wait for version or may i go with 7.10
[04:29] <Ohm> ubuntu-007: during next month
[04:29] <Fryguy--> ubuntu-007: april 27th i think is the date, and ubuntu has always supported full inplace system upgrades, so just install now and upgrade later
[04:29] <Falstius> ubuntu-007: you could use install the beta, or upgrade when 8 comes out.
[04:29] <Fryguy--> spork969: then you probably didn't type it right
[04:30] <LinuxMonkey> !hardy | ubuntu-007
[04:30] <ubotu> ubuntu-007: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:30] <spork969> fryguy: copy and paste
[04:30] <ubuntu-007> thanks Ohm , Fryguy-- , Falstius
[04:30] <bluewraith> tux97, on the commandline type "sudo nano /etc/init.d/boot.local" and enter your password, then at the end of the file type "modprobe ndiswrapper" then hit ctrl-x and save changes. reboot, and it should work
[04:30] <dpt> Szunici, what you told starts the login manager
[04:30] <Ohm> spork969: put " characters around your file path+name
[04:30] <Fryguy--> spork969: i JUST ran the command and it worked fine, so try again
[04:30] <dpt> I want to be able to run startxfce4 automatically to increase boot time
[04:31] <Scunizi> dpt, yes.. and the gui.. startx does the same thing if you're in a different tty..
[04:31] <dpt> that's why GDM is not run on startup
[04:31] <Fryguy--> dpt: well you need to log in eventually
[04:31] <dpt> yeah, I have an autologin app
[04:31] <dpt> the app logs me in into tty1
[04:31] <ubuntu-007> can i force eject the cd rom from cd drive during live session ?
[04:31] <dpt> then my .bashrc launches startx
[04:31] <Fryguy--> implementing a system to bypass logging in is going to require a significant amount of effort, especially in an integrated distribution such as ubuntu
[04:32] <Scunizi> dpt, which is not tty7 which is where the gui  lives
[04:32] <dpt> now, if i can't run startx from console beause it laucnhes the error y told you before
[04:32] <tux97> bluewraith nothing in the file yet is it only suppose to be for this only command?
[04:32] <spork969> fryguy, what EXACTLY did you run?
[04:32] <LinuxMonkey> ubuntu-007: no cause its running off the cd/memory
[04:32] <dpt> i know, but if i run startx in a normal linux event in tty1 it'll start on tty7
[04:32] <Fryguy--> for i in *.JPG; do mv $i ${i%%.JPG}.jpg; done
[04:32] <dpt> i don't have to log in in tty7 for it to start
[04:32] <bluewraith> tux97, hrm.... hang on a sec then. lemme see if i can remember where i put it on mine.
[04:32] <zcat[1]_> Fryguy--: rename s/JPG/jpg/ *.JPG
[04:33] <tux97> ok well i created one like that
[04:33] <tux97> was i suppose to lol
[04:33] <dpt> "XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"" Any explanation of why this msg is generated?
[04:34] <Fryguy--> dpt: i told you before, it's because users don't have access to video devices, you'll need to change permissions for your video devices so that your user can access them (gdm is run as root)
[04:34] <x-ip> there is a known problem with nvidia legacy drivers at ubuntu hardy heron? it seems that in a 32 bit installation, when the machine plays a video, the system freezes
[04:34] <Fryguy--> x-ip: #ubuntu+1 for hardy issues
[04:34] <LinuxMonkey> !hardy | x-ip
[04:34] <ubotu> x-ip: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:34] <Fryguy--> zcat[1]_: neat, didn'tn know about that, thank you
[04:34] <spork969> zcat[1]_:
[04:34] <x-ip> ok, thanks all :)
[04:35] <LinuxMonkey> gee Fryguy--  ur too fast.lol
[04:35] <zcat[1]_> Hmm.. am I still logged in elsewhere?
[04:35] <Fryguy--> LinuxMonkey: ?
[04:35] <bluewraith> tux97, ah... now i remember. the file is "/etc/modules" sorry about that. you should see fuse, lp, and sbp2 in there as well. key in "ndiswrapper" to the end of that file and save, and it will work
[04:35] <bluewraith> tux97, the boot.local was for suse... :/
[04:35] <LinuxMonkey> Fryguy--: lool told him about +1 channel before I did.lol
[04:35] <Fryguy--> LinuxMonkey: oh
[04:35] <zcat[1]> yes I am .. KTHXBYE
[04:35] <xtc> what's that root uuid that shows up as a boot option for the kernel on the grub menu ?
[04:35] <dpt> ok, now i understand, UI'll see if i can manage with the permissions. Thanks once again. Good night.
[04:36] <Fryguy--> LinuxMonkey: i wish I was fast and actually knew something, I feel like such a noob in this channel :(
[04:36] <dpt> Cya
[04:36] <tux97> bluewraith what do i need to edit?
[04:36] <witepa> Hi, I am trying to install Xubuntu 7.10 onto a PowerBook G3 that has a broken CD Drive... I figure the best way to do this is through target disk mode. However, when I launch from the boot cd, the PowerBook's hard drive does not show up (Target Disk Mode essentially makes the target computer act like an external firewire drive). What should I do to make this work?
[04:36] <nikrud> bluewraith: /etc/modules is right for ndiswrapper, but /etc/rc.local is the rough equiv for that boot.local
[04:36] <crash\handler> kubuntu user here---why i cant hear any sound while playing youtube video,but all other apps(amarok,mplayer) are okay?how to fix this,please.
[04:36] <LinuxMonkey> Fryguy--: Dont feel bad, I just started using Ubuntu again after being FORCED to use windows at work
[04:36] <sdads> Fryguy: Great Ive seen virtualbox has a GPL version but has some features not included ;/
[04:36] <bluewraith> nikrud, ah, thanks
[04:37] <bluewraith> tux97, "sudo nano /etc/modules" and add ndiswrapper to the end of the file
[04:37] <sdads> Fryguy: im trying to figure out how to make a wireless connection now
[04:37] <Fryguy--> sdads: yes, and i'm sure it's nothing that you are missing, and the gpl featureset is already significantly more/better than qemu, and it's MUCH faster than qemu in every way
[04:37] <nikrud> xtc: that is a unique identifier for the partition. You can see all the uuid's by running  blkid  in a terminal
[04:37] <smehmood> if my box doesn't appear to be able to boot from a CD, what are my options?
[04:37] <Fryguy--> smehmood: if your computer was made within the last 10 years, then it will boot from a CD, unless you have some very exotic hardware
[04:38] <Fryguy--> smehmood: you could always make a boot floppy if you wanted to I guess
[04:38] <crash\handler> kubuntu user here---why i cant hear any sound while playing youtube video,but all other apps(amarok,mplayer) are okay?how to fix this,please.
[04:38] <spork969> zcat[1]_: "Substitution replacement not terminated at (eval 1) line 1"
[04:38] <bluewraith> tux97, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=537132  thats where i got that information from
[04:38] <smehmood> Fryguy--: the BIOS has an option for it, and I've set it to be the first device to boot from
[04:38] <smehmood> Fryguy--: and yet, with a Ubuntu server edition CD in it, it doesn't boot.
[04:38] <zcat[1]> spork969: check the manpage... I might have screwed up the regex
[04:39] <Fryguy--> crash\handler: flash uses a different sound setup than pretty much everything else in ubuntu, assuming you are running in firefox, take a look at the alsa-oss wrapper for flash.  i don't have specific details, but googling should give you the answer in the first few hits
[04:39] <Ivory_Tusk> Hey.
[04:39] <tux97> ok ty bluewraith how do i delete the first file?
[04:39] <Fryguy--> smehmood: did you burn the image correctly?
[04:39] <crash\handler> ok thanks!
[04:39] <nikrud> smehmood: when you look at the cd in windows, is it a bunch of files and directories, or only one file?
[04:39] <bluewraith> tux97, did you save a copy of it?
[04:39] <tux97> the first file we made yes i put it in there as well
[04:39] <smehmood> Fryguy--: nikrud: I had a friend burn it for me....  i don't know. probably something to check
[04:40] <xtc> nikrud: does it have something to do with the kernel taking a bit too long to boot... there's a message about init trying to resume from some path....
[04:40] <Fryguy--> smehmood: you need to make sure you "burn image to disc" you don't want to "burn a data cd"
[04:40] <looksie> anyone know how to get progress of boot while Desktop 7.1 starts up?
[04:40] <nikrud> xtc: that's a check to see if there's a hibernate image that needs to be loaded
[04:40] <spork969> zcat[1]_, fryguy--: i can't get it to work
[04:40] <smehmood> Fryguy--: I know, thanks. I've installed many a linux distros, my friend.. perhaps not, we'll see.
[04:40] <bluewraith> tux97, "cd etc" and then "sudo rm -i boot.local" should do the trick
[04:40] <ubuntu-007> ok thanks
[04:40] <ubuntu-007> laterz
[04:41] <spork969> zcat[1]_: manpage? regex?
[04:41] <Fryguy--> spork969: no idea, both of these tools should work fine.
[04:41] <smehmood> Fryguy--: yeah, I've just got the iso here, sorry to waste your time with that.
[04:41] <xtc> nikrud:  is that removable?
[04:41] <bluewraith> tux97, "cd etc/init.d", sorry
[04:41] <Ivory_Tusk> I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless router.
[04:41] <nikrud> xtc: no, it's part of the kernel boot up.
[04:41] <spork969> fryguy--: this: "mv $i ${i%%.JPG}.jpg" is exactly word for word what i ran
[04:41] <Fryguy--> spork969: nobody told you to run that
[04:42] <zcat[1]> spork969: this was about the rename thing right?
[04:42] <xtc> ok
[04:42] <Fryguy-->  for i in *.JPG; do mv $i ${i%%.JPG}.jpg; done
[04:42] <tux97> rmi command not found
[04:42] <Fryguy--> ^^ is far different from what you just typed
[04:42] <spork969> fryguy--, you did
[04:42] <spork969> zcat[1]: yeah
[04:43] <xtc> another thing... i'm having problems stting up, frame buffer, i've tried a bunch of things, but i always enf up with a black screen... i was on slackware a few hours ago and it set it up normally, what could be wrong ?
[04:43] <tux97> bluewraith ty
[04:43] <tux97> brb
[04:43] <nikrud> xtc: framebuffer sucks in ubuntu, I gave up
[04:43] <zcat[1]> spork969: rename s/JPG/jpg/ *.JPG   -- I just tested it with some junk files, it definately should work.. if you type -exactly- what I said..
[04:43] <Fryguy--> spork969: ?? i did what?
[04:44] <Fryguy--> mine works as well.  This really seems like pebkac to me
[04:44] <zcat[1]> ID-ten-T
[04:44] <xtc> pfff
[04:44] <spork969> fryguy: i didnt realize you meant to type the whole thing
[04:44] <Fryguy--> !!
[04:44] <nikrud> xtc: my feelings exactly
[04:44] <Fryguy--> are you kidding me?!
[04:44] <zcat[1]> spork969: my way is easier :)
[04:44] <spork969> *facepalm*
[04:45] <Fryguy--> "yes, let's just ignore half of what this person tells me to type, complain it doesn't work, and not even consider for a moment that he meant to type what he actually said to type"  GENIUS
[04:45] <zcat[1]> there's also the ${i/JPG/jpg} variant
[04:45] <xtc> nikrud:  last try... good thing there's sshd
[04:45]  * Fryguy-- calms down.....
[04:45] <xtc> and i can work from another station
[04:45] <tux97> bluewraith thank you so much
[04:45]  * nikrud is glad to see that Fryguy-- is not gonna fry his head
[04:45] <crshman> hi all, i have a drive that is partitioned for a linux sw raid, however when i attempt to add it to my array it reboots the system....and i have no idea why
[04:46] <spork969> fryguy--, thank you so much
[04:46] <spork969> zcat[1], thank you so much
[04:46] <bluewraith> tux97, not a problem. it was fairly fresh in my memory, as i had to do the same thing to get this laptop running earlier today. (only mine was a lil more difficult, as I was building up from server without a wired connection)
[04:46] <My_nics_ghosted> how do I un ghost my nick?
[04:47] <tux97> oh i see sorry
[04:47] <tux97> well ty i got to go
[04:47] <Fryguy--> My_nics_ghosted: /msg nickserv ghost <yournickhere> <yourpasswordhere>
[04:47] <bluewraith> tux97, no need to be sorry. I like breaking things and fixing them. heheh   see ya
[04:47] <My_nics_ghosted> Fryguy--, thanks
[04:47] <nikrud> Scunizi: , we hardly knew ye
[04:49] <Fryguy--> i realize it's not the right channel, but the channel is pretty dead right now.  Does anybody have any good howto level documentation on implementing rsync as an incremental backup solution from 1 drive to another?  I been googling around and I've seen a few projects, was curious if anybody in here had a recommendation
[04:50] <ATATURKIYE> Türkiye laiktir, laik kalacak !
[04:50] <nikrud> !tr | ATATURKIYE
[04:50] <ubotu> ATATURKIYE: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[04:50] <afabian> Fryguy--: rsync has a good manual page.   It sounds like what you're proposing is a straight-forward, basic use.
[04:50] <looksie> anyone have any issues with laptops not waking from sleep in 7.1
[04:50] <zcat[1]> 00 03 * * * root rsync /home /media/backupdrive
[04:50] <Fryguy--> afabian: yah.  I've been through the manpage, I'm looking for some more howto level documentation on doing things with rsync though
[04:51] <zcat[1]> seems easy enough :)
[04:51] <PovAddict> Fryguy--: google? xD
[04:51] <un_dave> can someone explain to me how to setup vnc to gdm login ?
[04:51] <zcat[1]> aptitude search backup -- there are some packages that might be better designed for it anyhow
[04:51] <Fryguy--> wtf guys, I mentioned all of this in my concise paragraph.  I'm looking for howto level documentation, not manpage reference.  And i've already googled and found information and projects, I am looking to see if anyone had any specific recommendations
[04:52] <un_dave> i've followed the forum guides, but it seems that vnc server isnt running
[04:52] <zcat[1]> Fryguy--: specifically, see if that's the best too for the job first?
[04:52] <zcat[1]> *tool
[04:52] <crshman> is there a linux SW raid channel?
[04:53] <Fryguy--> mdadm is pretty straightforward to use, what is the problem?
[04:54] <xtc> wtf no distro for my old computer!!!
[04:54] <crshman> i have a drive that is partitioned for a linux sw raid, however when i attempt to add it to my array it reboots the system....and i have no idea why
[04:54] <bluewraith> xtc, how old a computer? tried DSL or Puppy yet?
[04:54] <xtc> nikrud:  got it ^^
[04:54] <zcat[1]> about the only helpful advice I can offer, if you're doing a fresh install, zero the first few blocks of both drives and boot the installer again, pre-existing raid partitons confuse the hell out of the installer kernel.
[04:54] <Fryguy--> crshman: any logs?
[04:55] <nikrud> xtc: framebuffer? What video card?
[04:55] <xtc> bluewraith:  it's a pentium mmx 233 i'm using as printer server... this should be ok
[04:55] <xtc> nikrud:  no idea man, some intel chip i suppose
[04:55] <rabidweezle_> any quake buffs around? looking for anyone that compiled quakeforge or quake2forge in ubuntu feisty
[04:55] <nikrud> xtc: ah. I was hoping you'd found some ati magic
[04:55] <xtc> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pmojav/specs.htm < this are the specs of my computer series
[04:56] <ar0nic> nikrud
[04:56] <ar0nic> what card?
[04:56] <nikrud> ar0nic: x200
[04:56] <Ohm> Anybody think they could handle a really strange/complex problem I've been having?
[04:57] <nikrud> !ask | Ohm
[04:57] <ubotu> Ohm: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:57] <Dr_willis_> Ohm,  do you really expect an answer to that? :) ask the question and see..
[04:57] <Ohm> oh
[04:57] <Ohm> sorry
[04:57] <Dr_willis_> heh heh...
[04:57] <Ohm> http://owner.rnachoctb.org/error.txt
[04:57] <zcat[1]> resistance is futile!
[04:57] <Dr_willis_> summarize it a little bit?
[04:57] <Ohm> I've explained the error in that text file
[04:57] <PovAddict> zcat[1]: if less than an ohm, yes
[04:57] <Ohm> Dr_willis_: almost all grapical apps die with segfaults
[04:57] <ar0nic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#head-792c267f08a2bf078f9ec923b65d0ac07d48a6b7
[04:57] <ar0nic> this is one thread for ati
[04:58] <Ohm> It started happening after I got VLC updates through the update manager thing.
[04:58] <nikrud> ar0nic: ah, I meant the framebuffer console. My X is fine. But thanks anyway
[04:58] <Ohm> But I am not sure wether those are to blame.
[04:59] <ar0nic> framebuffer console should be left to default
[04:59] <Dr_willis_> Ohm,  it sounds like some part of hardware took that time to go boom. I would test the system with some live cd's to see if  it seems to work good. and run mentest for a while.
[04:59] <Fryguy--> almost certainly not hardware related
[04:59] <Dr_willis_> Ohm,  a vlc update should not be affecting that  big a varity of stuff..
[04:59] <nikrud> ar0nic: never! I want tux on my console ;)
[04:59] <Ohm> Dr_willis_: I've booted into windows and used the computer for extended periods of time with no problems
[04:59] <Ohm> so the hw should not be the problem
[04:59] <Dr_willis_> Ohm,  ive seen in the past where windows is not a good test  of that.
[04:59] <Fryguy--> sounds to me like a messed up compiz config.  I would turn off compiz completely and see what happens
[04:59] <Ohm> Dr_willis_: k
[05:00] <Ohm> Can I just run memtest or do I need to boot into the memtest OS thing?
[05:00] <Dr_willis_> Ohm,  iuve had systems with bad ram run windows.. but linux dident like it.  memtest  for a while to add to the troubleshooting list, and testing with a live cd.
[05:00] <Dr_willis_> boot to memtest, let it run a while.
[05:00] <zcat[1]> overnight is good
[05:00] <Ohm> I will, and then I'll append that to the info.
[05:00] <Dr_willis_> If nothing else its one thing youve 'checked'  and can add to your purtty error repport.
[05:00] <Ohm> Now I've got to be heading to bed, though. Just got home from working at a student pub, and it's 6 am
[05:01] <Ohm> Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.
[05:01] <Dr_willis_> running those apps from a terminal and looking for any error messages will helop also.
[05:01] <torshido> how can I get the exact memory footprint for and Apache server, to tune it accordingly with the MaxClients parameter?
[05:01] <torshido> how can I know the *exact* memory size for an httpd process, I just don't think ps is exact, because of shared libs and stuff...
[05:01] <torshido> the guys at #apache say I should ask my #distro guys hehe
[05:02] <Ohm> Dr_willis_: check:
[05:02] <Ohm> http://owner.rnachoctb.org/totlog.txt
[05:02] <Ohm> most apps give errors similar to that one
[05:02] <Ohm> but when googling for it, it seems it's actually just a warning
[05:04] <Ohm> well, thanks again, Dr_willis_. I'll check back in tomorrow (~12h from now)
[05:05] <Cam5552347111> hey. can we have some help getting ubuntu to work on a vista machine
[05:05] <Fryguy--> Cam5552347111: ask a real question
[05:06] <Cam5552347111> hey. can we have some help getting ubuntu to work on a vista machine?
[05:06] <xtc> yes you can, what you need?
[05:06] <ubuntufreak> what help
[05:06] <Fryguy--> ... lol
[05:06] <Cam5552347111> well
[05:06] <Cam5552347111> do we need to burn the iso, or unzip the files and then burn to disc
[05:06] <finer_recliner> burn the iso
[05:06] <xtc> you have to burn the iso
[05:06] <Cam5552347111> ok
[05:07] <ubuntufreak> burn it
[05:07] <zcat[1]> !iso
[05:07] <Cam5552347111> and then boot from bios or in windows?
[05:07] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:07] <Flannel> Cam5552347111: burn the ISO file as an ISO (there isn't an "iso" file on the disk, it's the contents of the ISO)
[05:07] <finer_recliner> then boot from it
[05:07] <Cam5552347111> ok
[05:07] <Cam5552347111> brb!
[05:07] <zcat[1]> hmm.. !iso isn't all that helpful about how to burn one
[05:07] <Ivory_Tusk> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to connect to my router.
[05:07] <Ivory_Tusk> Any help?
[05:08] <Cam5552347111> can i use roxio or nero to burn the cd?
[05:08] <Fryguy--> Cam5552347111: yes
[05:08] <bullgard4> What is Ubuntu's preferred download manager?
[05:08] <Cam5552347111> ok
[05:08] <Fryguy--> bullgard4: ?
[05:08] <Cam5552347111> im booting from cd
[05:08] <ubuntufreak> k3b or braseri
[05:08] <bullgard4> Fryguy--: ??
[05:08] <nikrud> Cam5552347111: be sure to burn it as an image, not a data cd
[05:08] <Cam5552347111> as an image?
[05:08] <zcat[1]> Ivory_Tusk: 'connect' how? Normally you just plug it in and it goes
[05:09] <Ivory_Tusk> It's wireless.
[05:09] <Cam5552347111> how do we burn it as an image pls
[05:09] <zcat[1]> Ahhh.. ok. Pain.
[05:09] <nikrud> Cam5552347111: a bootable image, yes. Not as a data disk. Don't know the nero interface, but there's a difference
[05:09] <Cam5552347111> ok
[05:09] <Fryguy--> Cam5552347111: just use whatever software you normally use, and select "burn an image"
[05:09] <Ivory_Tusk> Zcat: It has been a pain.
[05:09] <Cam5552347111> ill use that cd as a coaster
[05:09] <ubuntufreak> as a bootable CD
[05:09] <Cam5552347111> and burn a new one
[05:10] <ubuntufreak> burn as a bootaqble CD
[05:10] <Cam5552347111> nikrud    can it be a dvd?
[05:10] <Fryguy--> yes
[05:10] <ubuntufreak> or bootable dvd
[05:10] <Cam5552347111> hurrah
[05:10] <zcat[1]> !wifi | Ivory_Tusk You been through all this stuff?
[05:10] <ubotu> Ivory_Tusk You been through all this stuff?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <Cam5552347111> ok
[05:11] <zcat[1]> 'bootable' is irrelevant.. the ISO defines that..
[05:11] <zcat[1]> If there's even an option for 'bootable' or not, you're probably already doing the wrong thing
[05:11] <ubuntufreak> i was mentioning the opetion on Nero
[05:12] <zcat[1]> ubuntufreak: Yes... the option of making a bootable data disk with a great big ISO file on it..
[05:12] <Ivory_Tusk> Zcat, I haven't been through all of that. Thanks.
[05:14] <BarrytheBullBoyB> ohhaiguyz will powerISO work to burn an iso file such as ubuntu?
[05:15] <BarrytheBullBoyB> i think i need an image file
[05:15] <BarrytheBullBoyB> i need halp!
[05:15] <xtc> lol ubuntu server is awesomly slow damn
[05:15] <Dr_willis_> use a mirror?
[05:15] <xtc> *server version of ubuntu
[05:15] <Flannel> xtc: what do you mean slow?
[05:16] <BarrytheBullBoyB> will powerISO work to burn an iso file such as ubuntu?
[05:16] <xtc> as in, cups taking a whole lot of time on processing a test page
[05:16] <xtc> on a sloooow computer
[05:16] <Dr_willis_> BarrytheBullBoyB,  it should.  or use 'isorecorder' or 'burnatonce' under windows.
[05:17] <Fryguy--> xtc: yah ubuntu server is pretty slow.  I switched my server to something else
[05:18] <Madman6510> #quit
[05:18] <xtc> Fryguy--:  what are you using....
[05:19] <Fryguy--> xtc: freebsd
[05:19] <xtc> i've been trying to work with slack but i get this really strange error related to pstoraster filter when trying to print cups test page
[05:20] <xtc> hm...
[05:21] <rashind> Hey, any Azureus users around?  The latest gnome language pack update seems to have make azureus decide to use an alternative alphabet in a lot of contexts (certain column headers, pop-up titles, button text, etc)... I can't readily identify the alphabet that's being used, though.  Not greek, arabic, or cyrillic.
[05:22] <rashind> I haven't hit another program having the problem, though, and Azureus was fine before the language pack update
[05:22] <Fryguy--> xtc: base debian install works pretty well as a server too.  I'm really liking freebsd though
[05:23] <smehmood> hey guys, if I'm configering a web server but im not currently connected to the interent, will it be easy to go back later and have it autoconfigure?
[05:23] <smehmood> or should I just connect it to the interent for the whole install
[05:23] <Fryguy--> smehmood: you shouldnt' need an internet connection to configure a web server..
[05:24] <frootloop> help installing video drivers
[05:24] <rashind> smehmood, if you can competently uncomment some lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, you should be fine
[05:24] <smehmood> by configuring I meant installing ubuntu
[05:24] <smehmood> rashind: I can, thanks, heh
[05:24] <rashind> frootloop, what's your video card
[05:24] <Fryguy--> smehmood: so now i'm confused
[05:24] <frootloop> ait radeon 9250+
[05:24] <Fryguy--> you are installing ubuntu a web server?
[05:25] <Fryguy--> that's what you just said/meant.  ....
[05:25] <rashind> frootloop, I recommend alberto milone's Envy script.  It's not official ubuntu-supported, but I've used it with great success with nVidia cards, and he's recently added ATi installation support.
[05:26] <Shoopuf_> Who made all those cool Ubuntu screensavers, and are there Windows XP versions of them? The Ubuntu screensavers rock!
[05:26] <smehmood> Fryguy--: yes, im installing ubuntu server edition, and I just got to the autoconfigure network portion
[05:26] <xtc> aarrggggg, i can't make cups work as it should!!
[05:27] <smehmood> Fryguy--: I was just wondering if it was worth it to lug the box downstairs where I have an ethernet cable and connection to have it autoconfigure, or is it easy enough to do that after the rest of the install is complete
[05:27] <Fryguy--> smehmood: you can configure it later, just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:27] <rashind> frootloop, just search google for milone envy and read on his page until you find the download link for the script...  be mindful, though.  There are some ways to go wrong.  Just make sure to follow the program's instructions, and remember it's warning about uninstalling the drivers before a kernel update.
[05:28] <Flannel> !envy | rashind, frootloop
[05:28] <ubotu> rashind, frootloop: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:28] <rashind> ubotu and Flannel, I already told him it's not officially supported, so what's the problem?
[05:29] <bullgard4> [Gnome] There is a symbol (icon) when downloading a file from the Internet. It is a blue rectangle with a wide white arrow which points from the center down. What program is associated with this symbol?
[05:29]  * Fryguy-- has never seen this symbol
[05:30] <robersonfox> i got drink some bear, bye my friends
[05:30] <Rat409> bullgard4: try top or ps aux when iy happens
[05:30] <Rat409> it
[05:30] <sbingner> has anybody got WoW working well in Xgl? -- it works GREAT if I change it to display directly to display :0 -- but then it overwrites everything else and I can't see anything but WoW
[05:30] <bullgard4> Rat409: What do you mean by 'iy'?
[05:31] <Fryguy--> iy = it misspelled
[05:31] <onefunk> hi having problems with synaptic
[05:31] <rashind> Okay, so nobody's having alphabet troubles in azureus with the new gnome language pack update?
[05:31] <Fryguy--> rashind: i didn't think anybody used azureus anymore
[05:31] <rashind> onefunk, what sort of problems?
[05:32] <onefunk> rashind, it won't even load. do you want me to send you the error?
[05:32] <Cam5552457111> ok i found a program to write to the disc as an image called burnatonce, but it says current project does not match loaded media
[05:32] <rashind> Fryguy-- I have been using Azureus for a couple of years and haven't run into a reason to switch... though, if it insists on using the wrong alphabet, that might be reason enough... but, right now I'm blaming the gnome language pack update for that.
[05:33] <rashind> onefunk, sure, I'll have a look.  I'm not too bright, though.  :'P
[05:34] <Fryguy--> Cam5552457111: if you can't manage to burn a cd, you should reconsider trying to learn and use a new operating system
[05:34] <Cam5552457111> i can burn a cd
[05:34] <Cam5552457111> its a new program im using to do it
[05:34] <zcat[1]> Cam5552457111: Nero should be able to do it.. I KNOW nero can do it.
[05:34] <Fryguy--> Cam5552457111: so then use an old program to do it.  it's a trivial task and you are asking an awful lot of questions about it
[05:34] <Rave1_> Cam555.............. those burners will not burn DVD
[05:34] <Cam5552457111> i assume i want a bootable image, not non bootable?
[05:35] <Cam5552457111> ok ty
[05:35] <Cam5552457111> what about poweriso
[05:35] <zcat[1]> Cam5552457111: NO NO NO!!! If you even have the option of bootable/nonbootable then you are already on the wrong track!!!
[05:35] <Cam5552457111> well what program should i use
[05:35] <zcat[1]> Cam5552457111: somewhere up the top, file menu I think, there's an option BURN ISO to disk
[05:36] <onefunk> rashind, actually first part is in french. but it says that type "deb" is unknown on the list of sources. here is the rest: E: The list of sources could not be read.
[05:36] <onefunk> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[05:36] <onefunk> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:36] <zcat[1]> Nero, but don't put the ISO into a data disk.. close all that cap
[05:36] <Cam5552457111> ok
[05:36] <Flannel> onefunk: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <Flannel> !paste | onefunk
[05:36] <ubotu> onefunk: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:36] <Saied> how can i connect to a vpn? i used kvpnc but it did not work
[05:36] <Rave1_> Cam555... power ISO will burn DVD image
[05:36] <Cam5552457111> ok
[05:37] <Cam5552457111> it says in the bottom left, "Non-bootable image"
[05:37] <Cam5552457111> i fear that is wrong
[05:37] <zcat[1]> Rave1_: NERO will burn an iso to disk.. he already knows nero, how about we stick with just one program?
[05:37] <Dr_willis_> i like 'burn at once' ya just click on the .iso and away it goes
[05:38] <zcat[1]> Dr_willis_: I like gnome, I just right slick and choose 'burn to disk'
[05:38] <zcat[1]> *right-click
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  if he was in gnome.. he wouldent be messign with nero. :) heh..
[05:38] <jack-desktop> whats the gtk --replace command?
[05:38] <zcat[1]> gnome / nautilus.. I don't even know what does it, it just happens!
[05:38] <Rave1_> for some reson he is trying to use DVD
[05:38] <jack-desktop> like gtk-decorator --replace?
[05:38] <Cam5552457111> Out of CD's
[05:38] <Dr_willis_> Nero --> recorder --> burn image
[05:38] <Cam5552457111> ok ty
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> i will burn the iso image to dvd with nero!
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> hurrah
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> i love you thanks for help
[05:39] <zcat[1]> Dr_willis_: it will still work if it's a CD image to a DVD, right? I know linux will do them without even blinking
[05:39] <Shoopuf_> Cam5552457111: What OS are you using, I can suggest a much better data-disc burning program for XP. :P
[05:39] <Dr_willis_> Cam5552457111,  you dont burn a cd image to a dvd disk...
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> vista on desktop, xp on laptop
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> ok
[05:39] <onefunk> Flannel: i entered /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal and both user and root have access denied
[05:39] <Cam5552457111> well i only have dvds and that makes me sad
[05:39] <Dr_willis_> 'burn at once' is a decent free small iso burner app for windows xp/vista
[05:39] <Shoopuf_> Cam5552457111: I highly suggest using http://cdburnerxp.se/ ...It's free and roxx.
[05:40] <xtc> oh my god, ubuntu is unlivable at this speed
[05:40] <Dr_willis_> Theres a dozen others.. :)
[05:40] <Cam5552457111> but only nero works with dvd?
[05:40] <Flannel> onefunk: you need to open it up in a text editor. alt-f2, then "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:40] <Fryguy--> wheee these new cursors are pretty
[05:40] <Cam5552457111> im clickinh "Burn Image to Disc" in 14 seconds
[05:40] <Cam5552457111> 9 seconds
[05:41] <Cam5552457111> 3 seconds
[05:41] <UncleChevitz> Hey, newbalicious GNU usr here, recovering M$ usr, is a srvr distro different than a desk-top distro in any other way except that srvrs have minimal pckgs and (probably?) *AMPP icluded in their initial pckg set??
[05:41] <Cam5552457111> you guys/gals are awesome thanks for your help, you deserve hearts of valor
[05:41] <Shoopuf_> Cam5552457111: The link I gave you works with DVD, ISOs, CDs... It is awesome, I use it for all my CD burning needs. Also it is very simple and has a nice pretty interface.
[05:42] <Cam5552457111> thanks
[05:42] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: wow, learn to type complete words. and to answer your question, the only differences between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop are the initial set of packages that are installed
[05:42] <Flannel> UncleChevitz: no.  All Ubuntu flavors are identical except the intial packages installed.  And you can switch between them at will.
[05:43] <UncleChevitz> frggn addctd 2 code completion
[05:44] <Fryguy--> code completion works for an extremely small CFG, not the english language (and is typically a sign of a bad programmer in the first place, one who has been exposed to visual studio for far too long)
[05:44] <dreamor> Hey guys.  I'm having a problem installing 7.10 64-Bit on my new system.  I'm guessing it's the Radeon 3870 throwing it off as it stops doing anything after trying to start X.  Anyone heard of this issue and know a work around?
[05:44] <onefunk> Flannel, here's the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59791/
[05:45] <nikrud> Flannel: ouch :)
[05:45] <nikrud> Flannel: erm, completion error ;)
[05:46] <Flannel> onefunk: alright, you've got one line in there that's the problem.  Close that editor window, then alt-f2 "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then delete the entire last line, with getautomatix in it.  Save, and you'll be working fine again.
[05:47] <luke403> hey guys i need some help with samba and networking
[05:47] <Fryguy--> can't help you until you ask a question
[05:47] <UncleChevitz> nglsh kc prtty mch b Usd wthwt vwls
[05:47] <UncleChevitz> errr...kn
[05:47] <Black_Magic> Well Can someone help we with not having internet when im connected "supposubly" i cannot connect to anything or browse basically so i did a dmesg while supposably connected and i think at the bottom is my problem can anyone tell me how to put that into retrospect? my dmesg is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59792/
[05:47] <luke403> okay well i got far enough to make my ubuntu drive show up as a network drive but now it wont let me write to it
[05:48] <UncleChevitz> I only know what MSVS is from reading about it
[05:48] <felice> Anyone knows why my Firefox 2.0.0.12 stopped rendering graphics properly as they all look pretty crappy now?
[05:49] <luke403> that is on windows
[05:49] <bullgard4> felice: Please describe exactly how the graphics look now in order that someone can suggest a troubleshoot.
[05:49] <smehmood> felice: perhaps specifying what is 'crappy' about them will help people figure out what's wrong?
[05:50] <Fryguy--> luke403: make sure you are flagging it as read-write and not just readonly
[05:50] <luke403> it is all set to read and write
[05:50] <onefunk> Flannel, thank you so much.
[05:51] <Flannel> onefunk: no problem
[05:51] <felice> buullgard4: if you take a look at Distrowatch.com you'll see all distribution logos looking pretty squared. Obviously this applyes to all websites making large use of png / gif  / jpg graphics. NOTE: opera does not have this problem...
[05:52] <smehmood> felice: the first thing to do whenever firefox does something weird is to disable all your extensions
[05:52] <smehmood> and see if the problem still persists
[05:53] <ogre> hey guys, I installed enlightenment earlier today and switched back to gnome. now nm-applet isnt working. I get this error ** (nm-applet:6432): WARNING **: <WARN>  nma_dbus_init(): could not acquire its service.  dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.24" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file'
[05:53] <felice> alright, then. That I'll do on they fly
[05:54] <UncleChevitz> Oh, fryguy, flannel, forgot 2 thnk, totally answred my question
[05:55] <ogre> anybody know how to fix it?
[05:55] <Cam5552457111> I think the abacus is better than vista
[06:02] <luke403> Fryguy--:, they are all set to read and write
[06:02] <tomcatt> sup
[06:03] <Fryguy--> luke403: and do guests have read/write, or are you logging in as a user
[06:03] <tomcatt> is anyone running zfs under ubuntu yet?
[06:03] <Fryguy--> tomcatt: i'd imagine very few are, since the project is very new and still pretty unstable
[06:03] <Fryguy--> and it's feasibility isn't going to be that good since it runs in userland
[06:04] <tomcatt> Fryguy:  okay.  unstable?  nnaaa, i can wait.
[06:04] <luke403> i am logging on as the same username that i have in ubuntu but in my drive properties in ubuntu all the premmisions are set to read only but i cant change them
[06:05] <Fryguy--> then you don't have it set as read-write
[06:05] <luke403> it wont let me though
[06:05] <michael__> hello
[06:05] <oni> hi all
[06:06] <michael__> does anyone know how to moun a ide drive. (ive only mounted a sata drive)
[06:06] <michael__> not sure what /dev the ide would be
[06:06] <Fryguy--> michael__: hda hdb hdc or hdd depending on where it is plugged in
[06:06] <michael__> hmm
[06:06] <michael__> none is coming up
[06:07] <Frogzoo> michael__: /dev/sd# again
[06:07] <oni> how do i install a tar.gz?
[06:07] <Fryguy--> oni: that's a very vague question
[06:07] <Fryguy--> be more specific
[06:07] <oni> firefox
[06:07] <Fryguy--> why
[06:07] <Frogzoo> oni: you uncompress it with 'tar zxf blah.tgz' then read the README or INSTALL
[06:07] <Fryguy--> firefox is installed by default
[06:07] <michael__> yeah i have heaps of sda# and sdb# but i thought they would be sata drives
[06:08] <Frogzoo> michael__: they're ide also, since 2.6.19 or so
[06:08] <Lagg> my IDE drives show up as sdX
[06:08] <michael__> ahh cool.
[06:08] <michael__> so is there any way of knowing which one is for the hard drive in question?
[06:08] <michael__> seeings i have 3 hard drives and couple of partions
[06:09] <Lagg> that was a head scratcher when that change happened.
[06:09] <luke403> Fryguy--:, it wont let me set any more premissions on in my drive properties
[06:09] <Fryguy--> luke403: it's on the server, not in windows...
[06:09] <luke403> i know
[06:09] <Fryguy--> go re-read whatever tutorial you used to install samba again
[06:10] <Lagg> Probably going to want to look at your fstab
[06:10] <Lagg> that will tell you what get mounted by default
[06:10] <luke403> when i go to properties of my harddrive in ubuntu it wont allow me to change any of me premissions
[06:11] <shirish> hi all, does anybody how can I compare contents of two directories on the console to see which files are different
[06:11] <shirish> is it possible?
[06:11] <luke403> it is set to read only for all users
[06:11] <zcat[1]> shirish: diff
[06:11] <Fryguy--> luke403: it has nothing to do with the permissions of the hard drive, it has to do with the permissions in samba
[06:11] <Fryguy--> shirish: any diff tool is going to be able to do that, pick one (meld, vimdiff, diff, etc)
[06:12] <shirish> zcat[1]: how do I use diff?
[06:12] <Fryguy--> manpage
[06:12] <Lagg> man diff
[06:12] <Lagg> or man diff | more
[06:12] <shirish> Lagg: I did that, I find it confusing
[06:12] <zcat[1]> Fryguy--: I wrote a dedupe script.. takes an md5 of all the files in a directory, sorts it, then deletes all but the first file if there are identical copies
[06:12] <Lagg> yeah I've never heard of it before
[06:12] <Lagg> I was just pulling that answer from general knowledge
[06:13] <Wamphyri> does anyone use sli in ubuntu?
[06:13] <zcat[1]> shirish: typically diff file1 file2
[06:13] <zcat[1]> shirish: man diff will tell you more
[06:14] <shirish> zcat[1]: mine is little different I have two directories, one directory has 40 files while the other reports 45, I want to find which 5 files are missing
[06:14] <smehmood> shirish: type diff dir1 dir2
[06:14] <shirish> zcat[1]: already tried that, it doesn't have usage examples which would make it easy for me.
[06:14] <zcat[1]> ls dir1/ dir1.txt ; ls dir2/ dir2.txt ; diff dir1.txt dir2.txt
[06:14] <shirish> zcat[1]: doesn't show any differences
[06:14] <smehmood> shirish: or, just diff dir1 dir2 will tell you which files are unique to that directory
[06:15] <zcat[1]> ls dir1/ > dir1.txt ; ls dir2/ > dir2.txt ; diff dir1.txt dir2.txt
[06:15] <zcat[1]> sorry, got it wrong the first time
[06:15] <Wamphyri> ok does anyone run 8600GT w/ ubuntu?
[06:16] <zcat[1]> smehmood: that works? Hmm.. I thought it only compared two files :)
[06:16] <jose__> hello
[06:17] <zethero1> why is it that gparted cannot delete and create NTFS partitions?
[06:17] <jose__> anyone speak sspanish??
[06:17] <shirish> zcat[1]: thought the same here.
[06:17] <Frogzoo> !es | jose
[06:17] <ubotu> jose: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:17] <zcat[1]> zethero1: it can't?
[06:17] <jose> gracias
[06:17] <zethero1> zcat[1]: not for me anyhow....
[06:17] <smehmood> zcat[1]: well I looked at the manpage and turns out it does directories too, heh
[06:18] <zcat[1]> zethero1: Probably best to leave windows to deal with it's own filesystem anyhow :)
[06:18] <zethero1> zcat[1]: I am using the partition editor in Ubuntu Gutsy
[06:18] <shirish> guys now I want to .bzip2 a directory, anybody knows how?
[06:18] <zcat[1]> shirish: tar cjf foo.tbz foo/
[06:18] <dutch> hey, what command (or program) rescans hard disks, and regenerates your grub configuration Ubuntu-default-style?
[06:18] <zethero1> zcat[1]: ummm... I am working on an external USB drive and I want to remove the NTFS partitions
[06:19] <zcat[1]> zethero1: try fdisk, it can do it..
[06:19] <shirish> also its a file transfer so what would be better, a .bzip2 compressed file or a .gzip compressed file?
[06:19] <zcat[1]> I'm really sure the installer thingy can do it though..
[06:19] <gdaizishe> I call it a "SARDINE ON WHEAT"!
[06:19] <zcat[1]> shirish: bzip will be smaller, usually
[06:19] <smehmood> I seem to have a problem: im installing ubuntu server edition, and when it asked me for what software to install I meant to select LAMP Samba and OpenSSH, but I hit enter instead of space, so it went ahead and installed something, im not sure what. it then told me install was completed, so I chose Go Back, and re did the select software step this time correctly
[06:20] <smehmood> now it is asking me to put in the install disc into /cdrom/
[06:20] <smehmood> but I already have it in there
[06:20] <smehmood> and it gives me no other option other than continue
[06:20] <Wamphyri> smehmood remount the drive
[06:20] <xtc> any of you think a pentium mmx 233 is just too old for handling network printing ?
[06:20] <smehmood> how can I remount the drive when im running the install?
[06:20] <shirish> smehmood: I think there is a #ubuntu-server channel specifically for issues like that.
[06:21] <Wamphyri> smehmood press alt-f2
[06:21] <shirish> zcat[1]: what about corruption, which of the two is less likely to have corruption
[06:21] <smehmood> oh nice
[06:21] <shirish> zcat[1]: I mean between gzip & bzip2
[06:21] <zcat[1]> shirish: neither. md5sum the file at this end, md5sum it again at the other end..
[06:22] <dutch> hey all :) anyone know what command (or program) rescans hard disks, and regenerates your grub configuration Ubuntu-default-style?
[06:22] <shirish> true
[06:22] <zethero1> how can I get gparted to create ntfs partitions?
[06:22] <daizisheng> I call it a "SARDINE ON WHEAT"!
[06:23] <Lagg> xtc:  it would run ok , but may not run ubuntu very well (maybe look towards Slackware)
[06:23] <Wamphyri> lynx sucks for trying to view the forums lol
[06:23] <zcat[1]> !uuid | dutch
[06:23] <ubotu> dutch: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:23] <Dr_willis_> dutch,  ive NEVER found that app. :) the isntaller does it.. but i cant seem to find out whats actually doing it.
[06:23] <zcat[1]> dutch: other than that you have to paste then into grub or fstab by hand
[06:23] <dutch> Dr_willis_: hmmmmm, i seem to remember using something that di exactly that on an older installation, just cant remember ;-)
[06:23] <Dr_willis_> sounds like somthing to put on the ubuntu-brainstorm web site
[06:24] <zcat[1]> Dr_willis_: you could script something in bash in about five minutes..
[06:24] <Dr_willis_> dutch,  update-grub just rereads the menu.lst i wonder if  theres some dpkg-reconfigure grub that can do it..
[06:24] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  proberly 5 hrs for me. :)
[06:24] <zcat[1]> dpkg-reconfigure grub might do it
[06:24] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  but i niormally do it by hand heh.,
[06:24] <dutch> yeah maybe
[06:25] <zcat[1]> I often clone ubuntu installs (I get two or three machines to refurb, set one up nice with updates and restricted-extras, then clone it
[06:25] <shirish> zcat[1]: doing tar cjf foo.tbz foo/ gives the extension of the file .tbz not bzip2. The extension should be .bzip2
[06:25] <zcat[1]> and I was thinking about writing a script to do it automatically
[06:26] <zcat[1]> shirish: correct. It's a tar.bzip2 file.. .tbz is the usual extension
[06:27] <shirish> zcat[1]: The guy to whom I'm sending it to has windows, I know 7-zip has the ability to uncompress .tbz files correct?
[06:27] <Dr_willis_> 7zip can do most archives
[06:27] <zcat[1]> shirish: winzip should recognise that, it's very, very common.
[06:27] <shirish> zcat[1]: or would somebody recommend something different
[06:27] <Dr_willis_> You could just use zips
[06:27] <shirish> there is an application called zips ?
[06:27] <zcat[1]> Dr_willis_: tbz is smaller, and winzip handles it afaik
[06:28] <Dr_willis_> theres the zip command. :)
[06:28] <Dr_willis_> !info zip
[06:28] <ubotu> zip (source: zip): Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32-1 (gutsy), package size 103 kB, installed size 248 kB
[06:28] <Dr_willis_> spendig more time figureing out how to archive the stuff.. the it will take to send it. ? :)
[06:29] <zcat[1]> Dr_willis_: It's archived now, in a format 7-zip will have no trouble with
[06:29] <Dr_willis_> thers 7zip for linux also. :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis_> !info 7zip
[06:29] <ubotu> Package 7zip does not exist in gutsy
[06:29] <Dr_willis_> ack!
[06:30] <Dr_willis_> !7zip
[06:30] <zcat[1]> shirish: the file you have now, .tbz, should be fine.. I'm fairly sure 7-zip handles that
[06:30] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:31] <zcat[1]> Just checked the 7zip page... abosultely totally supports tbz files
[06:31] <shirish> Dr_willis_: zcat[1]: thanx :)
[06:31] <norty> Question: I'm trying to simulate the pipe command in ubuntu with a c program, I can't seem to find me error, can someone help me find it? here is the code http://rafb.net/p/CxTF7p25.html
[06:32] <jrib> norty: ##c is a better place to ask for C programming help
[06:33] <zcat[1]> and for .net coders, #c# ?
[06:33] <norty> ive asked there but no one seems to be alive, thought i might as well ask here since it has to do with linux/ubuntu.. couldn't hurt and im desperate.. ive been trying to fix this for days
[06:34] <jrib> zcat[1]: meh, maybe ##mono
[06:34] <neeto> Is there a way that I can make my mouse always stick in the middle? (I am trying to play an FPS with wine, but as soon as my mouse hits the edge of my screen, I can't look any further in that direction)
[06:34] <zcat[1]> I thought mono was a disease.. perhaps it is.
[06:34] <jrib> zcat[1]: or ##csharp apparently
[06:34] <neeto> Or better yet, make wine force dxgrab on a game?
[06:37] <Trubadurix> hiihhi
[06:37] <Wamphyri> wow
[06:37] <Wamphyri> first shot and i got the 8600GT's installed
[06:37] <Wamphyri> brb
[06:38] <Trubadurix> hey any know what "Evolution Alarm Notifier" is, and do i need it to start up on boot?
[06:39] <smehmood> Evolution is GNOME's email program
[06:40] <rxndx78> having some issues with the fonts in applications that are being ran with Wine... Any ideas?
[06:40] <smehmood> and calender program
[06:40] <smehmood> Trubadurix: so, if you don't use Evolution (which if you didn't see before, is GNOMES email/calender/PIM program) you don't need it at startup
[06:40] <zcat[1]> Trubadurix: do you use the appointment feature in evolution?
[06:41] <Trubadurix> no i have gmail
[06:41] <Trubadurix> ok i turn it off then :)
[06:41] <zcat[1]> Trubadurix: you don't need it then
[06:41] <Trubadurix> thx
[06:42] <shirish> hi all, I'm looking at the md5sum page on wikipedia
[06:42] <shirish> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[06:42] <shirish> it says here one can put the put the md5sum in a file let's say somefile.md5
[06:43] <rxndx78> I've noticed that the issue with the fonts is only happening in Firefox and Veoh under Wine...
[06:43] <rxndx78> they are barely readable
[06:43] <shirish> now the md5sum should it be just the alphanumeric string which is generated when one is using that command or the string+ filename ?
[06:43] <zcat[1]> shirish: in linux md5sum foo.tbz  > checksum.md5 -- in windows I don't know.. not worth the bother usually, just transfer the file and as long as the whole thing goes through it's 99.999% likely to be fine
[06:44] <zcat[1]> shirish: it's just a big long number.. if you get the same number at both ends it's -exactly- the same file
[06:44] <joe7d6>  any recommendation for pci or usb wifi device? is pci more compatible than usb under linux? i have a linksys wusb54gc which does not work...
[06:44] <Jafet> If you're using Windows, it's probably not worth caring about anyway.
[06:45] <shirish> zcat[1]: I just want to know what's stored in an .md5 file just the number or number+filename in some .csv way or something?
[06:45] <zcat[1]> there's probably a million utilitues you can download for windows to do it.. most of them packaged with some spyware :)
[06:45] <Yuji> Hi guys, i was installing all the java packages when now suddenly it says "unmet dependencies, run apt-get -f install" on any apt-get I do. what should I do?
[06:45] <jrib> !md5sum | shirish
[06:45] <zcat[1]> shirish: just the number in plain text
[06:45] <ubotu> shirish: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[06:45] <Jafet> As for me, I'm trying unsuccessfully to coexist with the nvidia-glx-* drivers.
[06:45] <smehmood> so during my server its stuck at 83% - Installing the kernel - retrieving and installing linux-server. Last time this happened I pressed enter and it moved along, but then I messed up the instal later on so now im redoing it. I just want to know if I should wait or does pressing Enter do something?
[06:46] <zcat[1]> smehmood: just wait, there's some parts of the install where it pauses for a while, that's quite normal
[06:49] <tux97> can someone help me about my network cause i can not access my other computers
[06:49] <Yuji> anything I do in apt-get tells me to try "-f" because sun-java6 has unmet dependencies
[06:52] <stephen_> hello i need help connecting my vbox with vista on it to connect to the internet and my network
[06:53] <stephen_> ????
[06:54] <kee> No audio on via vt8233/A/8235/8237   I've checked the switches to confirm that external audio was unchecked. Any help???  Ubuntu 7.10
[06:54]  * tarkus takes a HUGE POOP all over the kitchen and smothers it in a sandwich. ooh yeaaa gonna munch on THAT you little HORSEY!!!!!
[06:54] <Tixer> I have two network cards, one is eth0 and the other one is a wifi card. How can I control which one a program uses?
[06:55] <joseluis> Hi,  I can't receive any email on evolution from gmail
[06:55] <Jafet> Installing nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new causes the system to suddenly stall after a short while and chew the hard disk. Is this normal?
[06:55] <Adlai> I'm running ion3, and I'd like to run just one application under metacity, while I'm running ion3 for everything else, in the same session
[06:56] <joseluis> is it a problem with evolution 2.12.1?
[06:56] <Adlai> someone told me there was an easy way to do this, but I haven't found documentation for it
[06:56] <Adlai> anyone know of something like this?
[06:57] <joseluis> hello there
[06:58] <rabidweezle> what's the dpkg command to reconfigure xorg (graphics and keyboard and somesuch)
[06:59] <benguin> rabidweezle, its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <rabidweezle> ty :)
[07:00] <Doris-Biene> moin
[07:01] <benguin> anyone here used openoffice impress with videos embedded in a slide?
[07:01] <joseluis> does somebody had a problem with evolution with the pop.gmail.com?
[07:02] <gregbrady> Using the default setup for squid, does it automatically cache webpages?
[07:02] <chattan> anyone upgrade to 8.04?
[07:03] <shirish> zcat[1]: you still around buddy?
[07:03] <Jafet> chattan, read topic.
[07:03] <zcat[1]> no
[07:03] <shirish> :)
[07:03] <shirish> ok here's the thing
[07:04] <shirish> I have a file let's say picnic.tgz
[07:04] <shirish> sorry picnic.tbz
[07:04] <Myxb> how do i preserve file attributes when copying? cp -p does not do that: file filestamps are not preserved.
[07:04] <shirish> now I do md5sum picnic.tbz
[07:04] <shirish> it gives me some string which is the md5sum of that picnic.tbz
[07:05] <damo22> Myxb: try rsync
[07:05] <shirish> now I copy or create a file called picnic.md5 & in that I store the string which was given before.
[07:05] <Myxb> damo22: i'll do that but does cp work or is it broken?
[07:05] <shirish> now when I try to use this command md5sum -c picnic.md5 it doesn't work
[07:05] <Ee_2251> wow! just got a new gfx card and compiz looks great
[07:06] <damo22> Myxb: i dont know
[07:06] <shirish> it says md5sum: picnic.md5: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found
[07:06] <shirish> anybody has any idea how can I fix that?
[07:07] <dbmoodb> ... is there any reason for my sh to have changed /usr/bin/sh1 or /usr/binmd5 .... rkhunter ....
[07:07] <Myxb> damo22: i'll try and if it works will just add an alias. thanks
[07:07] <damo22> Myxb: you might want to read the man pages for rsync switches
[07:07] <rokirakat> go
[07:07] <Jafet> md5sum picnic.tgz > picnic.md5 ?
[07:08] <shirish> ok lemme try that.
[07:08] <Jafet> Isn't that _the_ way to "store" the md5 data into the checksum file.
[07:08] <Myxb> damo22: exactly what i do now
[07:08] <rokirakat> i am a new use for Ubuntu
[07:08] <Trubadurix> hey i have some more questions. in the session there is also "Tracker, User folders update, Visual" do i need them? i dont realy know what they do.
[07:09] <adrian_2002ca> dudes, how do i change the default pdf viewer application?
[07:09] <adrian_2002ca> to xpdf
[07:09] <onefunk> hi there. i'm getting an error message when i try to change my desktop themes and such. it says: cannot start "gnome-settings-daemon". any tips?
[07:10] <shirish> Jafet: I think u're right, I got it the wrong way.
[07:10] <stefano> i just realise that half of the questions here are things that are going to be fixed in 8.04
[07:10] <stefano> so nice to see
[07:10] <adrian_2002ca> onefunk, u tryin to change the theme or visual stile?
[07:11] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, i think if you just select xpdf in the "open with..." dialog
[07:11] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, if you have such a dialog, i'm not sure what's it called
[07:11] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, but that should do it i guess
[07:11] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, i know, but i dont wanna do that for every pdf
[07:11] <soulc> yo
[07:11] <adrian_2002ca> (im on live ...does that make a dif)?
[07:12] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, so you want to open just one pdf with xpdf?
[07:13] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, no for many...im jhust doin schoolwork...and i hav to dl every pdf to desktop to open it
[07:14] <adrian_2002ca> i wanna dblclick and get xpdf instead of document viewr since its soooooo slow
[07:14] <benguin> hi people... anyone here used openoffice impress with videos embedded in a slide?
 ... dblclick ... soooooo slow
[07:14] <benguin> I can't seem to embed a video in a slide and make it loop
[07:15] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, if you want to do it directly from the browser, you can select "open with" in the download dialog, i don't know where the xpdf executable lies, but you can find that out by opening a terminal window and type "whereis xpdf"
[07:15] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, oh isee
[07:15] <adrian_2002ca> Jafet, what?
[07:15] <adrian_2002ca> stefano,m thanks
[07:16] <adrian_2002ca> terminal bound to windows key....oh the irony
[07:16] <onefunk> adrian_2002ca, any. both. i'm in ubuntu studio and i just reinstalled my invidia graphics card drivers so it's probably that. but what do i do now. i am kinda new at this.
[07:16] <gregbrady> Using the default setup for squid, does it automatically cache webpages?
[07:16] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, i think if you select xpdf in the dialog that you get by right-clicking the file and selecting "open with another application" (could be named differently, i have a l9ed version), this should make it open it with xpdf by default
[07:17] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, o cool
[07:17] <Myxb> damo22: hm.. rsync -t <src> <des> still does not work. the files i copy still get the current timestamp instead of original one.
[07:17] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, try and tell me if it works, i'm not really sure since i'm not on 7.10 right now
[07:17] <damo22> Myxb: sorry mate not sure
[07:17] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, kk
[07:18] <stefano> Myxb, the timestamp comes directly from the filesystem, if you move files onto a different filesystem there is no way to preserve it.
[07:20] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, nope...i got it in open with menu...but its still defaulted as...guess....document viewer
[07:20] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, why don't you just open xpdf and open up the files from the open file menu inside xpdf?
[07:20] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, fair enough lol
[07:20] <Myxb> stefano: i know. but i copy file from one dir to another inside the same fs. i only have one disk: ext3
[07:20] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, possibly you can even open files from a URL instead of a file within xpdf
[07:21] <Behnam> Hello
[07:21] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, although i was jus tryin to see that linux is versatile
[07:21] <Behnam> Does anyone know a Nvidia flash read/write utilty for Linux ? :(
[07:21] <stefano> Myxb, the file gets touched, whenever you touch a file it changes the timestamp.
[07:22] <zcat[1]> !info mumble
[07:22] <ubotu> Package mumble does not exist in gutsy
[07:22] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, well your question kind of bugs me right now, because in the new version of ubuntu (which is to come out next month), it is so terrebly easy to do exactly what you want to do
[07:22] <stefano> :>
[07:22] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, the trick with locating works for firefox so im happy
[07:22] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, oh then I cant wait for the new version
[07:22] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, whats the new codename
[07:22] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, great! i'm glad youre enjoying ubuntu :-)
[07:23] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, i havent used windows in 5 dsyd :D
[07:23] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, the codename is Hardy Heron 8.04 (with 8 being 2008 and 04 being april)
[07:23] <adrian_2002ca> *days
[07:23] <Myxb> stefano: i see. ok so how do i cp a file so that at least its time is preserved? there are options -p, --preserve that seem should do it(?)
[07:23] <shirish> thanx everybody
[07:23] <stefano> adrian_2002ca, if you have some questions about the next version join #ubuntu+1 and we can talk about it there
[07:23] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, will it be even sweeter than gutsy?>does it have good persistance
[07:23] <adrian_2002ca> stefano, okdokie
[07:24] <stefano> Mythor_, i don't think that its possible to preserve the timestamp without any hardcore hacking
[07:24] <stefano> oh sry
[07:24] <gregbrady> nobody else online now using squid proxy server?
[07:24] <stefano> Myxb,  i don't think that its possible to preserve the timestamp without any hardcore hacking
[07:24] <J-_> How can I give permissions to my external hard drive? I want to change it back to how it was a while ago. I had to sudo a command to put something on it, or gksu nautilus and navigate to it and add whatever...
[07:25] <soulc> yo my eye candy stopped working any suggestions where to start?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> with slightly clearer info on when/how/what you did befor it stopped :)
[07:25] <Dr_willis> I would also check to make sure you booted the proper kernel, not the 386 one by mistake
[07:26] <soulc> well see that is the problem
[07:26] <Hamled> is there a simple way to start a command in the background and have it automatically re-run that command when it stops?
[07:26] <soulc> it was working and I moved the mouse to deactivate the screensaver and boom not there
[07:26] <Myxb> stefano: i actually can it using krusader (just example), but not in terminal and not in mc. seemed not right to me.
[07:26] <demonotaku> wow for a alpha build there was alot of updates on the first day lol
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Hamled:  what sort of command?
[07:27] <soulc> i'll ask later thanks
[07:27] <Hamled> running an application (python)
[07:28] <J-_> What command should I use to chante permissions on my external hard drive so that I can only read files as normal user, and use sudo to rend anything on the external drive?
[07:28] <|thunder> hardy when ?
[07:28] <stefano> Myxb, oh i see, sorry i have no further ideas then :-)
[07:28] <Dr_willis> J-_:  what filesystem is on the external drive?
[07:29] <gregbrady> Wow, this dansguardian thing really does work!!!
[07:29] <J-_> Dr_willis: ext3
[07:29] <oboy03> i have 2 laptops wid wifi, can I make them work as if they are on lan?
[07:29] <oboy03> what is dansgaurdian?
[07:29] <gregbrady> oboy03, it is web filtering
[07:29]  * demonotaku taps his foot as the 397 some updates for the latest alpha
[07:31] <zcat[1]> anyone know where there might be a 64bit package for mumnle?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> J-_:  i normally chown a directory on drives like that so the user has full access to that directory but not the rest of the drive
[07:32] <Dr_willis> J-_:   you could chmod the files/dirs to let users only read them. if you wanted.
[07:32] <J-_> Dr_willis: Well, I liked it how I had it before. I just forget what the command was, and how I did it
[07:32] <Dr_willis> J-_:  chown them to root, and then chmod them where the world has read access...
[07:44] <salomon_> Hello
[07:45] <co_rieUrrrrrrr> oi
[07:45] <salomon_> Does anybody know what the command is for the "Lock Workstation" in gnome?
[07:48] <nkk> hi every one
[07:49] <nkk> can anyone help me..?
[07:49] <pajamian> !ask _ nkk
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask _ nkk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <gauravdott> My music isn't playing properly the sound is crippy whether its .oo format or .mp3 format even if i have installed required codecs can anyone help
[07:49] <pajamian> !ask | nkk
[07:49] <ubotu> nkk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:50] <nkk> It says that Bittorrent is installed...but i can't find it.....can someone tell me where it is?
[07:50] <nkk> i'm using 7.10 gutsy btw
[07:51] <Dr_willis> !torrent | nkk
[07:51] <ubotu> nkk: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[07:51] <gauravdott> mine is 7.04
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nkk:  the command is 'bittorrent' i thought.
[07:52] <salomon_> >	Does anybody know what the command is for the "Lock Workstation" in gnome?
[07:52] <nkk> that means i've to use it from terminal?
[07:52] <gauravdott> hellooooooo plz help
[07:52] <Dr_willis> nkk:  try double clicking on a .torrent file
[07:52] <Dr_willis> nkk:  i tend to use other torrent clients, then the default one.
[07:53] <salomon_> @nkk: Yes, or install another client, such as KTorrentGibbon, or uTorrent and use it in wine
[07:53] <nkk> alright. thanx
[07:53] <nkk> i've used utorrent
[07:53] <nkk> i think i'll download that one
[07:53] <pajamian> nkk: the standard bittorrent package is a terminal package, yes.  If you want the gui version install bittorrent-gui or one of the other many packages just mentioned by ubotu
[07:53] <Dr_willis> utorrent is a windows app.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> it can work with wine
[07:53] <Trubadurix> gauravdott: maby its something in alsamixer ?
[07:53] <salomon_> @Dr_willis: Yes, it works perfectly with wine. I'm using it now :)
[07:54] <gregbrady> Anyone using squid out there?
[07:54] <Jafet> !nvidia
[07:54] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <fourvees> why not try azuereus
[07:54] <pajamian> why use a windows program when there's lots of native linux ones to do the task?
[07:54] <fourvees> java client
[07:54] <Dr_willis> salomon_:  untill they break somthing in the next update.. :) its been on/off with it for a while.. but  not tried it lately
[07:54] <gauravdott> i have tried every player available
[07:55] <pajamian> !sound | gauravdott
[07:55] <ubotu> gauravdott: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:55] <Jafet> pajamian, because µTorrent is a very good example of software done the right way.
[07:55] <Jafet> Even if it's for Windows.
[07:55] <salomon_> @Dr_willis: On the download page of uTorrent: "For Wine, Windows 95 (Winsock2), 98/ME, NT/2000, XP, 2003, and Vista." So i think they'll make it compitable with every release
[07:56] <Dr_willis> salomon_:  of course with wine.. theres always 'issues' :)   sucks when ya update wine and then it breaks a game,,, or visaversa..
[07:56] <Dr_willis> I will stick with ktorrent...
[07:56] <Jafet> Hrm, BinaryDriverHowto isn't updated for 7.10, it seems.
[07:57] <pajamian> Jafet: I'm all for using wine with windows programs when there is no alternative, but there are indeed lots of Linux torrent apps so even though utorrent may be very good I fail to see why it's really needed for Linux.  That said, I'm not opposed to helping someone install it with wine if they really want it.
[07:58] <iri_2223> Is it unheard of on Gutsy for shutdown and restart to fail? As in you actually choose to do either of these options and you get a blank screen in lieu of the action itself.
[07:58] <Arenlor> Hello, I'm looking for a good screen reader (I'm using Gutsy), I just need it to be able to read web pages to check for accessability
[08:00] <pajamian> Arenlor: I don't know of any screen readers (I'm sure they're out there, I just never had need for them), but I've found that if a web page displays well in a terminal-based browser such as elinks you can generally count on it to work well with screen readers.
[08:01] <iri_2223> So um is it unheard of then? My installation is only a day old.
[08:01] <Dr_willis> iri_2223:  could be a kernel/apci/power saving issue.
[08:01] <Jafet> iri_2223: The solution in this case might be Reinstall It And Pray Unscientifically That It Goes Away.
[08:06] <juggaloreborn> hi all
[08:06] <juggaloreborn> can someone help me out really quick with grub
[08:06] <Dr_willis> depends on the issue. :)
[08:06] <juggaloreborn> i want to make it wait 15 seconds before it autoloads ubuntu
[08:07] <SliMM> hello
[08:07] <juggaloreborn> im dualbooting windows and ubuntu
[08:08] <SliMM> how can i create a script to mount iso images (and umount them) just as CDs and memory sticks are mounted?
[08:08] <famicom> lo room
[08:08] <famicom> SliMM read up on bash scripting
[08:08] <juggaloreborn> im just trying to figure out how to  get into it
[08:08] <SliMM> i.e. how can i make it appear in "computer///"
[08:08] <SliMM> ?
[08:08] <famicom> not something specifically related to ubuntu
[08:08] <juggaloreborn> i know with lilo it was lilo config
[08:08] <famicom> you need to check out bash and nautilus
[08:08] <famicom> now, right now i got a desktop install livecd
[08:09] <famicom> is there any switch for the installer that i can pass so that i can do a minimal install, rather than a fullblown deskto
[08:09] <famicom> p
[08:09] <Trubadurix> juggaloreborn: /boot/grub/menu.lst then change timeout
[08:09] <SliMM> famicom: yes, but to make it appear in "computer:///" i think is related to ubuntu
[08:10] <famicom> SliMM no, that's related to nautilus and perhaps udev
[08:10] <juggaloreborn> thanks
[08:10] <Trubadurix> juggaloreborn: you can also install "startupmanager" if u wanna have a graphical program to control such thing
[08:10] <chemical> Hello room
[08:10] <famicom> If you don't know what these things are, then you need to get familiar with those before you can write a script such as the one you just described
[08:11] <famicom> furthermore, if you google around, i bet you can find something very similar to what you are aiming for
[08:11] <Kopfgeldjaeger> how can i print the tables in openoffice calc again? i mean, the lines around the cells...
[08:11] <chemical> Is there anyone who has been using gFTP succefully?
[08:12] <chemical> or any relative program
[08:12] <neeto> How can I send a my mouse to a certain coordinate?
[08:13] <chemical> this is a geeky q
[08:13] <juggaloreborn> naw i dont mind the cli
[08:13] <juggaloreborn> but it just told me permision denied
[08:13] <juggaloreborn> i tried sudo ing it, but it told me no suck command
[08:14] <Trubadurix> u have ubuntu with gnome?
[08:14] <juggaloreborn> yeps
[08:14] <gyaresu_> Someone decided that mpd would be compiled without m4a capabilities (amongst others) to keep it out of 'restricted' or whatever. Anyone got a good link to ubuntu package names for dependencies?
[08:14] <Trubadurix> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:15] <juggaloreborn> aww gediat
[08:15] <juggaloreborn> *gedit
[08:15] <Ziroda1> Is it possible to stream music over a VPN connection using DAAP?
[08:15] <juggaloreborn> forgot that part
[08:15] <juggaloreborn> thanks
[08:15] <Trubadurix> np :)
[08:16] <Jafet> gksudo gedit
[08:16] <Jafet> !gksudo
[08:16] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[08:17] <Speora> Errr.
[08:17] <Speora> Anyone in?
[08:17] <Jafet> No, we're just 1159 bots.
[08:17] <Jafet> !ubotu
[08:17] <sethX_> :)
[08:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:18] <Speora> LoL, it's nice to know that bots are so willingly to help.
[08:18] <Speora> haa.
[08:18] <Speora> !ubotu
[08:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:18] <Speora> I wonder why is everyone quiet anyway.
[08:19] <legend2440> !anything
[08:19] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> !love
[08:19] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[08:19] <Speora> I just wanna ask, I had Ubuntu Edgy installed on my laptop along with XP dual boot.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> it is 4 am in the usa :)
[08:19] <Speora> Now I wanna completely remove the Edgy and install the latest version of Ubuntu.
[08:19] <Speora> How should I go about it?
[08:19] <Speora> Hehe.
[08:19] <Speora> Okay, well, it's 4 pm in Malaysia here, hehe
[08:19] <Dr_willis> you dont want to keep anything from the edgy install?
[08:20] <gyaresu_> !offtopic | Speora That's why.
[08:20] <ubotu> Speora That's why.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:20] <Saint`Diamond> Question: Some reason, my installation of ubuntu's root pass is messed up. Am I screwed and have to reinstall? Or is there some way to reset the root pass.
[08:20] <Dr_willis> if not.. use fdisk to delete the existing linux install.. boot the linux install cd, have it install to the now unallocated space
[08:20] <Speora> Nah, don't wanna keep anything, wanna do a clean reinstall.
[08:21] <Dr_willis> fdisk, to delete, then reinstall.
[08:21] <Speora> fdisk, fdisk where? I'm pretty much a newb here.
[08:21] <Speora> Hehe.
[08:21] <Saint`Diamond> gparted for the win.
[08:21] <fourvees> remove the edgy partition
[08:22] <Speora> Okay, how about the MBR, if I remove the partition, when I boot up me laptop, will it still shows like 7 options there?
[08:22] <Speora> Hehe.
[08:22] <LimCore> how to report bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ page?
[08:22] <Speora> 1 being windows, 6 being different versions of Ubuntu with different kernel?
[08:22] <fourvees> take a copy of your menu.lst
[08:22] <fourvees> if it is grub
[08:22] <Speora> Yeah, it's GRUB.
[08:22] <Speora> Hehe.
[08:22] <Speora> Mm hrmm..
[08:22] <nkk> in Synaptic Package Manager..whenever i select some package to install..it pops up the message that list of application is not available..
[08:23] <Dr_willis> Speora:  when you reinstall linux.. it will redo the grub menus
[08:23] <nkk> why does this happen?..i can't install the any codecs due to this
[08:23] <Dr_willis> Speora:  if you want JUST windows.. then you will need to reinstall the windows boot loader.
[08:23] <Dr_willis> nkk:  do a 'update, and upgrade' and try again?
[08:24] <Speora> Ah, I want Ubuntu again, hehe, cool. Okay, thanks, that's pretty much it, thanks Dr_willis.
[08:24] <Speora> I'm just a little worried if it'll screwed up the MBR, the bootloader kind of thing hehe.
[08:24] <frold> anyone that know a alternative to TVuplayer for linux?
[08:24] <fourvees> there is nothing to worry about it
[08:24] <Jafet> It's pretty difficult to screw up hardware from inside software.
[08:25] <fourvees> grub can always be reinstalled later
[08:25] <fourvees> even if u screw
[08:25] <Saint`Diamond> Question: Some reason, my installation of ubuntu's root pass is messed up. Am I screwed and have to reinstall? Or is there some way to reset the root pass. ^repost^
[08:25] <Speora> The Win XP can still be bootable eh?
[08:26] <fourvees> yes unless if you don affect C: partition
[08:26] <fourvees> make sure how u have installed grub
[08:27] <SliMM> how do i make a custom script appear in the context menu of nautilus for certain filetypes?
[08:28] <Speora> Okie dokie, thanks forsaken_.
[08:28] <Speora> Okie dokie, thanks fourvees.
[08:28] <Speora> LoL.
[08:28] <fourvees> welcome speora
[08:29] <neeto> So I am trying to play Tribes Vengeance with wine, and for some reason, it doesn't try to do dxgrab, even though I have it enabled, is there a way to FORCE it, so that my mouse will stop moving but still send input to ONLY the game
[08:29] <legend2440> Saint`Diamond: why not just use sudo instead of having a root password?
[08:29] <Saint`Diamond> Does'nt sudo require a pass?
[08:30] <Dim252> Привет
[08:30] <legend2440> Saint`Diamond: yes its your user password that you use to login. Forgot it?
[08:31] <Saint`Diamond> LoL thanx got it.
[08:31] <Saint`Diamond> sudo passwd root
[08:31] <bluecake> Dim252, what?
[08:32] <Dim252> i find russians
[08:33] <Saint`Diamond> Needed root for virtualbox guest editions.
[08:33] <zuhaib|laptop> Hello
[08:34] <Chris|> anyone know a tweak or a howto to install virtual componets to virtualbox, i really want to get a game to work under it for xp :/
[08:34] <Saint`Diamond> I know virtualbox pretty good.
[08:35] <Saint`Diamond> Is XP the guest?
[08:35] <Toshio> What's the easiest way to open up a port but only have it accessible from a remote location defined by way of dynamic DNS (someoneitrust.dyndns.org)?
[08:35] <Chris|> yep
[08:35] <Dim252> what installing wireless from broadcom chip (notebook DELL 1501)
[08:35] <crash\handler> lightweight browser recommendation?:-----
[08:35] <Chris|> i want to get civilizations 4 to work under it
[08:35] <crash\handler> web*browser
[08:35] <Chris|> crash\handler links2 or dillo
[08:35] <Saint`Diamond> Well with the guest editions you are limited. Depends on how much ram/video you dedicate to the machine.
[08:35] <Chris|> links2 with -g option is super fast
[08:35] <Arelis> How do i hide the menu bar in applications?
[08:35] <Chris|> i put the video ram all the way up Saint`Diamond
[08:35] <Chris|> still nothing
[08:35] <Saint`Diamond> You normally have to have a really good amount of ram. Like 4G+
[08:35] <crash\handler> tq!
[08:36] <Chris|> Saint`Diamond, i have 4gb of ram, lol
[08:36] <Saint`Diamond> Hmmm.
[08:36] <zuhaib|laptop> I have a weird issue where if I dont use Compiz all my grapic inputs are slow.  example, just trying to type a URL in Firefox the text will lag behind by almost 10 sec
[08:36] <Chris|> well 3.5gb on the host machine
[08:36] <Saint`Diamond> I dunno, I know with virtualbox, you have to have an elite vid card to get the guest to be able to play games or run another virtualbox.
[08:37] <zuhaib|laptop> if i set appearance --> Normal everything is fine
[08:37] <Chris|> but civilizations says "failed to initialize renderer - check direcX version and graphics settings"
[08:37] <zuhaib|laptop> but if use "None" everything is just super slow
[08:37] <Saint`Diamond> Virtualbox's drivers do not have acceleration of 3d support.
[08:37] <Chris|> :/
[08:37] <Chris|> yeah that sucks :/
[08:37] <Saint`Diamond> In your guest, goto RUN dxdiag and look at the video section.
[08:37] <Chris|> it would be neat if you could virtually build your own virtual comp..
[08:38] <Dim252>  :(
[08:38] <legend2440> Arelis: if you are talking about the gnome panels just right click on panel select properties and select hide
[08:38] <TrustNoOne> does gutsy support all the latest hardware such as nvidia geforce 8800 GT card and sli? with dolby digital 5.1
[08:38] <Saint`Diamond> I have Vista, with ubuntu as guest.
[08:39] <CVD-PR> hello
[08:39] <Chris|> hrm
[08:39] <Chris|> hold on a sec
[08:39] <tuxist> hi
[08:39] <TrustNoOne> hi
[08:39] <tuxist> i have problem with samba + ldap
[08:39] <Chris|> hrm
[08:40] <TrustNoOne> !ask | tuxist
[08:40] <ubotu> tuxist: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:40] <Arelis> legend2440: No. For example, the menubar in Pidgin.
[08:40] <tuxist> auth over libnss for linux clients is running
[08:40] <Chris|> Saint`Diamond do you know if vmware have 3d support?
[08:40] <tuxist> i cant't login in windows
[08:40] <tuxist> domain is running
[08:40] <Chris|> if not, i'l just wine it
[08:40] <Chris|> i've got it to work under wine before with a few bugs..
[08:41] <Saint`Diamond> Chris|:I do not think vmware is any better.
[08:41] <tuxist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59799/
[08:41] <Saint`Diamond> Two words Chris.
[08:41] <St0n3-C0l> how to heavily compress a folder?
[08:41] <Saint`Diamond> Transgaming Cedega.
[08:41] <St0n3-C0l> It's a 4gb folder
[08:41] <Saint`Diamond> Or Crossover Office
[08:41] <St0n3-C0l> how to make it 2gb or 2.5gb?
[08:41] <gyaresu_> What's the name of the debian package building tool? (I've got svn of mpd & can't remember it's name)
[08:41] <Chris|> lol
[08:41] <Chris|> hrm i suppose i could try to compile cedega
[08:41] <St0n3-C0l> in the form of archiving
[08:41] <Saint`Diamond> Wine is bullsh$t
[08:41] <Chris|> indeed
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> Can't get anything to work under it right.
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> Cedega has given me good results.
[08:42] <Chris|> well i suppose i'll try cedega, thanks Saint`Diamond for the help
[08:42] <Chris|> Saint`Diamond is it hard to compile cedega?
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> No prob.
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> Cedega does all the work for you.
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> You'll need WineX.
[08:42] <St0n3-C0l> someone?
[08:42] <Saint`Diamond> Not free, but it does'nt take a trip to your local bittorent to find it.
[08:43] <St0n3-C0l> I want to archive a folder which is of 4gb, how to compress it ?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> St0n3-C0l:  - depends on whats in the data.
[08:43] <Chris|> yeah, compiling it is free i've heard, but the non free version is a binary i think
[08:43] <Chris|> lol Saint`Diamond, yeah
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !archive
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <Saint`Diamond> Do it the ARGGHHH way.
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !archiver
[08:43] <Saint`Diamond> LoL.
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archiver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <Chris|> i suppose i could torrent
[08:43]  * Chris| whistles
[08:43]  * Saint`Diamond is the bittorent King. Muh territory there.
[08:44] <Dr_willis> given how cheap cedega is.. its  best to support it.
[08:44] <Saint`Diamond> Well yeah, -if- you pay for it. You'll have some benefits.
[08:44] <Saint`Diamond> I mean, I thought everything about linux is supposed to be free.
[08:44] <Saint`Diamond> All they did was take wine a step further.
[08:44] <St0n3-C0l> Dr_willis: It consists of 143 wmv files :)
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> each file 30-40 mbs
[08:45] <TrustNoOne> Saint`Diamond, not everything... yellow dog for ps3 is not free
[08:45] <Dr_willis> St0n3-C0l:  odds are you are not goig to get much if any compression on video files.
[08:45] <Dr_willis> St0n3-C0l:  'rar' Might give you some compression.
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> Dr_willis: I want to move all of them into .rar
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> yup
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> thats what i want
[08:45] <Toshio> What's the easiest way to open up a port but only have it accessible from a remote location defined by way of dynamic DNS (someoneitrust.dyndns.org)?
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> i want to transfer it
[08:45] <Saint`Diamond> When I wanna pay 200 bucks. I'll get vista, where I know everything works. I play with linux because I like the options.
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> into it
[08:45] <FloodBot1> St0n3-C0l: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <Dr_willis> St0n3-C0l:  but dont expect them to get 1/2 the size
[08:46] <Dr_willis> !rar | St0n3-C0l
[08:46] <ubotu> St0n3-C0l: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:46] <St0n3-C0l> Even if it gets 3gb, it would be perfect
[08:47] <TrustNoOne> does ubuntu support hybrid drives
[08:47] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  they are finially out?
[08:47] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[08:47] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, of course
[08:47] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  i thought they appeared as normal drives to the OS.
[08:47] <Saint`Diamond> Did MSN shut down for everyone?
[08:47] <St0n3-C0l> not really?
[08:47] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  define 'hybrid' drive. :) we may be thinking of 2 different things
[08:48] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, no, because i know xp does not support but vista does support hybrid drives
[08:48] <abhay> hi
[08:48] <tsukasa> Hey guys. I need the name of a program to merge files split into multiple pieces
[08:48] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, hybrid as part flash
[08:48] <Saint`Diamond> Vista for the win!
[08:48]  * Saint`Diamond lmao.
[08:48] <tsukasa> command line preferable
[08:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ebuntu anyone?
[08:48] <legend2440> !vista
[08:48] <ubotu> vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[08:48] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  I may be thinking of the one that was part hd, part RAM. not 'flash' :) ive not seen any flash-hybrid drives yet..
[08:48] <Saint`Diamond> LoL.
[08:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> fuk vista
[08:48] <St0n3-C0l> tsukasa: I've once upon a time got the command 'cat file1 file2 > finalfile'
[08:48] <St0n3-C0l> :d
[08:49] <St0n3-C0l> When i asked for such thing :p
[08:49] <tuxist> i got problem with ldap + samba ldap + libnss have no problems with linux logins it's only with samba logins in /var/log/auth.log get this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59799/ my smb conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59800/
[08:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !ebuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <tsukasa> St0n3-C0l, yes that works so well with 30 part files
[08:49] <Saint`Diamond> I love Vista. I think Vista makes an awesome foundation. I do everything on it, and it refuses to mess up and when it does, it tells me and fixes it's self. Without my interaction.
[08:49] <St0n3-C0l> So why u asking then ? :p
[08:49] <St0n3-C0l> How many parts are there then :D
[08:49] <tsukasa> St0n3-C0l, especially when you run out of command line space
[08:49] <tsukasa> alot
[08:49] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: i second that. cat FTW
[08:50] <St0n3-C0l> FTW?
[08:50] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, notebook hybrid drives released in early 2007, differ from normal hdd in that it employs a large buffer of non-volatile flash memory to cache data during normal use
[08:50] <leo_rockw> St0n3-C0l: for the win
[08:50] <St0n3-C0l> Oh :d thanks
[08:50] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !e17
[08:50] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:50] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, was asking if ubuntu supports that, because i know xp doesnt, and vista does
[08:50] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: make a bash script
[08:50] <scd_hu> hi all
[08:50] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  heck these things are getting so slow to come out.. i imagne we will be using just flash hard drives  befor they get common.
[08:50] <thinze> Hello
[08:51] <terminal> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:51] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  im curious as to what vista actually does with them.    never did see any real info on that on the articals ive seen about the devices
[08:51] <leo_rockw> Q: what app can I use to monitor bandwith use per process, application or pid?
[08:51] <thinze> how can i change the default Python version in Ubuntu 7.1 from 2.5 back to (installed) Python2.4 ?
[08:51]  * Saint`Diamond MSN refuses to connect v.v
[08:51] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, WIKI: "the platters of the hard drive are at rest almost all of the time, instead of constantly spinning as they are in current hard drives. This offers numerous benefits, chief among them speed,[1] decreased power consumption, improved reliability, and a faster boot process."
[08:51] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Saint`Diamond, #windows
[08:51] <terminal> how to resize d ext 3 partition
[08:51] <scd_hu> is anybody can help me about bind config?
[08:51] <leo_rockw> thinze: i believe you have to change the path and that would solve it. not really sure how to go about it
[08:52] <GCtoday> I am trying to install irssi, I type the command to install in the gnome terminal (I think it is); 'sudo aptitude install irssi irssi-scripts screen openssh-servers'.  Then I am asked for a password and when I try to type it nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  sounds almost like the OS should just be seeing the device as a normal drive.. the hd is smart enough to cache/write/power down as needed.
[08:52] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, so if vista supports hybrid drives, that is what it would do
[08:52] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: nothing
[08:52] <Saint`Diamond> I'm for both systems. I'm using them -both- right now at the same time. Become omnipotent.
[08:52] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: you don't get feedback when you type in your password
[08:52] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, well i kno the drive does not work properly or have support/drivers in xp
[08:52] <GCtoday> Why is the system refusing to take my password then?
[08:52] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: btw, you're installing more than irssi there
[08:52] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  bummer.
[08:52] <zcat[1]> Saint`Diamond: we don't care if you're impotent.. windows is still OT here..
[08:52] <GCtoday> Oh no...:(
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> LoL.
[08:53] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: use your user password
[08:53] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yup, i was gonna get a new alienware notebook, with a hybrid drive, and just wondering if gutsy supported it so i can throw that on there as a dual boot
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> Dude, apples and oranges man.
[08:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Saint`Diamond, msn is not supported in this channel
[08:53] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: remember that linux is case sensitive (and you need to be sudoer)
[08:53] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  egads.. You got more $$ for a laptop then I do. :)
[08:53] <GCtoday> It doesn't go in no matte what I do.
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> I was'nt asking for MSN help. lol.
[08:53] <legend2440> tsukasa: have you tried cat *.wmv > final.wmv    for example?
[08:53] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, not really, i would just pay monthly probably
[08:53] <GCtoday> My password is all numbers
[08:53] <terminal> gctoday, first u do apt-cache search irssi
[08:53] <zcat[1]> Saint`Diamond: it seems to me you're just trolling. Did you have an ubuntu question?
[08:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !help | Saint`Diamond
[08:54] <ubotu> Saint`Diamond: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:54] <terminal> how to resize d ext 3 partition
[08:54] <Saint`Diamond> Dudes, I'm just chatting. I'm not dissing ubuntu. Geeze.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  I go the "cheap' route and get a new low end laptop every year. :)  its amazing what you can get in a linux laptop for under $400
[08:54] <Saint`Diamond> I use ubuntu.
[08:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !offtopic | Saint`Diamond
[08:54] <ubotu> Saint`Diamond: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:54] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: are you the only user of that comp?
[08:54] <tsukasa> legend2440, the first one is named differently then the rest. im trying to get unrar to work as the are *.partxx.rar but unrar swears its not a rar archive
[08:54] <tsukasa> legend2440, even though winrar will do it
[08:54] <leo_rockw> Q: what app can I use to monitor bandwith usage per process?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  reading this wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive - seems like vista supports it  witht he 'readydrive'  feature.. which from what i hear.. is a rather useless feature. :)
[08:55] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, im more about it look sexy than performing as well, but im also all about the power, and im debating between a hot lg notebook and alienware. dell has some awesome power in their high end xps but they look like junk
[08:55] <GCtoday> Yes I am the only user
[08:55] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: what rar did you install? maybe the free one doesn't work (?) there's rar free and non free
[08:55] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: then your regular password has to work
[08:55] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yeah i know vista supports it, i wanted to know if ubuntu did :p
[08:55] <tsukasa> leo_rockw, i tried the one off the site and apt-get unrar
[08:56] <tsukasa> leo_rockw, both say its not a rar archive
[08:56] <skanarchy> hi all
[08:56] <GCtoday> It is all numbers and it doesn't at all, I have tried rebooting and all sorts of silly stuff.
[08:56] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:    The whole readyboost/readydrive thing is total bull from what ive read. You can get the same effect with just using a usb thumbdrive..
[08:56] <tsukasa> Dr_willis, thats not true, if you have <1gb of ram readyboost helps
[08:57] <tuxist> what is this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59801/
[08:57] <Dr_willis> tsukasa:  if you have <1 gb of ram and using vista = You need to be spending more $$ on ram.. Not a high end HD. :)
[08:57] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, it is not the same as readyboost, which is boosting your ram with flash drives, basically a hybrid drive is going to conserve power, increase speed and the platters wont have to spin constantly to write data, not to mention its non-volatile
[08:57] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: if you apt-get install unrar you get the nonfree version. idk then...
[08:57] <zcat[1]> If you have <1G of ram, you can even boot vista far enough to detect a thumbdrive?
[08:57] <GCtoday> Is there a website I can go to that will help me with this?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  spend your $$ how ya want. I doubt if its worth the extra cost.
[08:57] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: well, i really don't know what to tell you. your user password should be working
[08:58] <tuxist> i think thats the problem
[08:58] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne: id rather have  a larger hd, then one with flash stuff in it. :) or more real ram
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, jusr buy 4-8gb of ram and be done with it
[08:58] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: does "sudo echo moo" do anything?
[08:58] <leo_rockw> what app can I use to monitor bandwith use per process, application or pid?
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, readyboost doesnt help north of 2gb
[08:58] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, again a hybrid drive has nothing to do with readyboost or your ram, it has to do with increasing the speed/power of your hdd
[08:58] <tuxist> how can i disable otp
[08:58] <GCtoday> Can I change my user password at all?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  the wiki sort of says otherwise.
[08:58] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, notebooks dont support past 3-4 gb
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, well 4gb then
[08:59] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyDrive#ReadyDrive
[08:59] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, increasing ram will not increase hard drive performance ;)
[08:59] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, raid0?
[08:59] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, ssd
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive (i am not worried about ready drive, i will not be using it at all)
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, no raid
[09:00] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne,that drive sounds like a gimmick tbh
[09:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm. that is an interesting read on the state of  the hybrid drives...  I betting in a year.. they will be a thing of the past.
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, lol gimmick?
[09:01] <zcat[1]> it would make more sense to just put a bigger ram cache on the damn thing.. why use flash if it's not actually supposed to survive being powered off anyhow?
[09:01] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, well its either hybrid drive or 7200rpm for a notebook, and moving your notebook is a good way to snap the head off the platter when its going at 7200rpm
[09:01] <GCtoday> Also, if that command does more than just install irc, what is the command to just install irssi?
[09:01] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: do any commands work with sudo?
[09:01] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: sudo apt-get install irssi
[09:01] <zcat[1]> from what I'm reading it sounds like a half-baked idea.
[09:01] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  if you are worried about that.. go with those new SolidState Drives. :)
[09:01] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: with the command you pasted you're telling it to install screen too (which might not be a bad idea either lol)
[09:01] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, those are too slow IMO
[09:01] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne Dr_willis or go with a MBP which has the shutoff sensor
[09:02] <tsukasa> and put whatever OS you want on it
[09:02] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, 5400rpm hybrid will be almost lik 7200rpm hdd
[09:02] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  they are new tech. reviews and newsive been reading say they will get much fster soon.
[09:02] <Pupeno> I'm buying two hard disks for making backups, so I'm buying a Western Digital and a Segate, both 500MB, does it makes sense? I'll buy the enclosures separately.
[09:02] <GCtoday> Nope same result the computer won't accept the password again.
[09:02] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: and ssh or smth like that (i don't remember)
[09:02] <zcat[1]> BTW; I installed the prefetch package in ubuntu ..  it makes a big difference, OOo opens in less than a second, it used to take two or three
[09:02] <fourvees> !search *
[09:02] <ubotu> Found: logs-#ubuntuforums, tvout, hdbug, picard, ubunto, winkey, overshare, meta, scope, buntudot
[09:02] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  Im not seeing  anywhere that states Hybrid drives with flash are that much faster.  UNlike those ram-hybrid drives..
[09:02] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, thats the same thing with all technology, if i wait a year of course ill get much better stuff for the same price, but that will be the case always
[09:02] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: try changing your password with the "passwd" command
[09:03]  * Dr_willis reads some more.
[09:03] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, "This offers numerous benefits, chief among them speed,[1] decreased power consumption, improved reliability, and a faster boot process."
[09:03] <terminal> how to transform d free space of ntfs partition to ext3 partition
[09:03] <leo_rockw> hey guys, does anybody know of an app that will show me how my bandwith is being used?
[09:03] <leo_rockw> terminal: qtparted or gparted
[09:03] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  its faster to boot - is not the same as overall preformance
[09:03] <TommyBoy> I have a question,... I installed Ubuntu Gutsy on my Fujitsu-Siemens laptop and my Fn keys don't work
[09:04] <GCtoday> Nope it is asking for my password again and am unable tou input it...
[09:04] <joe_> Hello all.  I'm having a problem with Ubuntu start up.  I see the splash screen and after that goes away I hear the login sound, but nothing is on the screen
[09:04] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  thats vista and its caching files on the ram part. once its booted. its not using the ram stuff - from what i read.
[09:04] <TommyBoy> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[09:04] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, if its faster to boot, you might as well be saying its read is faster
[09:04] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: when you type in the password you won't see anything, just type it in and press enter
[09:04] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  it wont give you faster load times in your 20gb+ doom6 levels.
[09:04] <GCtoday> Okay
[09:04] <Dr_willis> but the pc will boot 10 sec! faster
[09:04] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yes but it still offers non-volatile storage as well as the platters arent constantly spinning
[09:04] <terminal> leo_rockw; gparted is a software
[09:04] <leo_rockw> terminal: it is
[09:05] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, again my options are hybrid or 7200rpm drive, so im getting hybrid (because thats my only option atm for the custom build notebook) and if its not going to work in ubuntu, i might go with lg instead
[09:05] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, if you get a MBP and drop it while the platters are spinning it will shut off the hard drive to avoid corruption
[09:05] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, never have i dropped a laptop
[09:05] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  but from how i read it. vista is using that storage just for the boot files.     go for it! write a review/wiki page on the topic
[09:05] <terminal> leo_rockw; gparted i can install it frm add or ramove programm
[09:06] <tsukasa> why the f does winrar see this as a rar file but unrar does not
[09:06] <tsukasa> argh
[09:06] <leo_rockw> terminal: yessir
[09:06] <ubuntu-007> hi
[09:06] <Dr_willis> tsukasa:  wine winrar.exe
[09:06] <joe_> Anyone here good with xserver?
[09:06] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: you could always use wine
[09:06] <terminal> leo_rockw; u r frm
[09:06] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: yeah, Dr_willis types faster than i do :-P
[09:06] <tsukasa> yes.. but... why T_T
[09:06] <ubuntu-007> i have installed and updated ubuntu 7.04 but i don't see any option to upgrade it to 7.10
[09:07] <Arenlor> can anyone help me with the issue I'm having here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713359
[09:07] <leo_rockw> terminal: what?
[09:07] <GCtoday> I have typed in 'sudo passwrd' it is saying 'sudo: passwrd: command not found'.
[09:07] <NicDumZ> Unable to retrieve http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb  Connection to fr.archive.ubuntu.com: 80 (194.2.0.36) impossible. - connect (111 Forbidden)
[09:07] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: it's passwd
[09:07] <GCtoday> Oh
[09:07] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, if you install winrar for linux from their site, archive manager should just recognize rar files and be able to compress/decompress them
[09:07] <zcat[1]> I would not recomend setting a password on he root login
[09:07] <pandora--> what's the best (safest) way to upgrade from feisty to gusty?
[09:07] <GCtoday> Okay got it
[09:08] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: actually, it's sudo passwd username
[09:08] <Starnestommy> where username is your user's name
[09:08] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], it is only recommended not to set root pwd only to avoid using that account correct?
[09:08] <joe_> pandora: wipe your hard drive and install from a cd, with a spare pc available for problems
[09:09] <krz> hi
[09:09] <krz> i need to run photoshop, msword on linux. i dont like gimp or openoffice. how can i do this?
[09:09] <Starnestommy> krz: you could try wine
[09:09] <TrustNoOne> krz, use wine, msword 2003 works great on it (not later versions however) and photoshop works too
[09:09] <zcat[1]> crossover office, perhaps..
[09:09] <fourvees> crossover
[09:10] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> krz, #winehq
[09:10] <leo_rockw> krz: sudo like gimp and openoffice
[09:10] <pandora--> joe_: seriously? there's no way to upgrade?
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> krz, check winehq for a review of compatible MS programs with wine to see how well it works, in my experience, msword 2003 works great and so does some versions of photoshop
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> !wine | krz
[09:10] <ubotu> krz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:10] <zcat[1]> if you're running more windowsprograms than free ones, this is a big hint that you probably should just stay running windows
[09:10] <krz> dont you have to pay for wine?
[09:10] <Starnestommy> krz: no
[09:10] <leo_rockw> krz: negative
[09:10] <ubuntu-007> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade not working for 7.04. any suggestions
[09:10] <krz> neat
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> !AppDB | krz
[09:10] <ubotu> krz: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:10] <zeel> r
[09:10] <Jafet> Usually. Especially if you get it from shops, and especially if it's old.
[09:10] <krz> anyone heard of http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation ?
[09:10] <Arenlor> pandorra-- http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:11] <joe_> pandora-- well you said best
[09:11] <pandora--> thx
[09:11] <leo_rockw> Arenlor: http://xkcd.com/290/ segfaults are awful and unpredictable
[09:11] <Kirrika> Is there a known issue with azureus crashing immediately after startup?
[09:11] <leo_rockw> Kirrika: i heard of that before, checking launchpad might be a good idea
[09:11] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, what versin of azureus
[09:12] <GCtoday> I have clearly stuffed up. New and old password too similar, new password too simple, Authentication token manipulation error, password unchanged. Sorry guys.
[09:12] <terminal> leo_rockw; how i do
[09:12] <simion314> hi, i ru a program called MonodDevelop with the command "make run" and i want to amke a script that will start this program, i am using this command but is not correct /home/simi/mono/MD/monodevelop/make run, the shell belives that make is a directory, can anyone help?
[09:12] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> krz, if u want to run windows apps that much, i really suggest u to just run windows
[09:12] <leo_rockw> terminal: install gparted... google gparted :-D
[09:13] <TrustNoOne> krz, yeah, wine does not run all windows apps that great, just some apps, which is why u check HQ for it, if u NEED certain apps to run, use windows
[09:13] <Kirrika> It appears to be 2.5
[09:13] <terminal> leo_rockw; i install it
[09:13] <fourvees> simion314 try putting a . (dot) in front of it and try
[09:13] <leo_rockw> terminal: don't forget to back up all critical info from the ntfs partition
[09:13] <Kirrika> I installed it from the repo, but it was working fine until a couple of days ago
[09:14] <leo_rockw> does anybody know of an application that will show me how my bandwith is being used?
[09:14] <terminal> leo_rockw;kkkkkkkkkkk
[09:15] <fourvees> hi kirrika which version of java are u using
[09:15] <krz> which is more popular distro unbuntu or pclinuxos?
[09:15] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  ntop can log and give out all sorts of info.. but it depeneds on your needs. :)
[09:15] <fourvees> is it gcj or sun jvm
[09:15] <Dr_willis> krz:  i think ubuntu.
[09:15] <zcat[1]> really frustrates me when people 'switch' to linux and then complain that their windows office, windows paintshop, windows games, etc... are too hard to get going!
[09:15] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, for that versin of azureus i just make sure i have latest java and icedtea and then i download vuze tarball, extract to usr/share and run the script to start it up, i made shortcuts to that script for start menu
[09:15] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: just trying to find out which application is uploading a lot of stuff and making my connection really slow
[09:16] <krz> zcat[1] thats what im worried about
[09:16] <Toshio> leo, try bwm
[09:16] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, if that doesnt work you can probably ask azureus team for help since they support linux, also try earlier version that is in synaptic for azureus which is 2.4
[09:16] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  Hmm..  You got other users? or just yoruself?
[09:16] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: just me
[09:16] <leo_rockw> Toshio: thank you Toshio, will do
[09:16] <nordland-iv> Yo, does anyone know how to make all of Xchat transparent?
[09:17] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  you got more apps uploading then you can keep track of? heh..
[09:17] <TrustNoOne> krz, if that is what you are worried about either A.) do not switch to linux or B.) dual boot linux and windows so you can use both
[09:17] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: no, that's the thing, i should only have 1 app __really__ uploading
[09:17] <krz> TrustNoOne what the point of using both?
[09:17] <zcat[1]> krz: Linux doesn't run windows programs particularly well.. It's rather an achievement that it can run them at all... if you want to run windows programs painlessly we'd prefer you just stick with windows thanks.. it will save you and us a lot of frustration
[09:17] <terminal> leo_rockw; i format a partition 5 gb frm ntfs to ext 3
[09:17] <nordland-iv> lol
[09:18] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i limited ktorrent to see if that helped, but i keep sending a lot, so i'm a lil worried, lol
[09:18] <leo_rockw> terminal: yeah, you might want to look for a manual for gparted in your language
[09:18] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  i normally throttle down ktorrent to 5-10k/s
[09:18] <Toshio> krz, have a look at ReactOS if you need Windows compatibility _and_ free OS at the same time
[09:18] <nordland-iv> Yo
[09:18] <nordland-iv> You 1337 fuckers
[09:18] <TrustNoOne> krz, because you can not get all windows programs that you might need, to work on linux properly, its not meant for linux. if that is the case, either do not use linux, or you can use both
[09:18] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i limited it to 3k/s
[09:19] <leo_rockw> !ohmy | nordland-iv
[09:19] <ubotu> nordland-iv: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:19] <kevin_> does anyone here dual-boot with windows, use ntfs-3g and upon running chkdsk in windows, get a message about deleting indexes from a file 25?
[09:19] <nordland-iv> any of you have a completely transparent xchat?
[09:19] <terminal> leo_rockw; i want to add this prtition in my previous ext 3 partition how i do this
[09:19] <TrustNoOne> krz, so when you boot up if you need to work on photoshop go to windows, or if you wanna play around go on linux... but if thats too much trouble, probably good idea to just stick with windows if you need msword and photoshop and other windows apps working properly
[09:19] <Saint`Diamond> Just install windows and run virtualbox for linux.
[09:19] <leo_rockw> terminal: not sure, sorry
[09:19] <ubuntu-007> how can i watch catv on ubuntu
[09:19] <zcat[1]> nordland-iv: completely transparent? how do you read it?
[09:20] <nordland-iv> dude guys, OpenOffice owns MSword anyways
[09:20] <TrustNoOne> krz, because ur only other choice is to use linux alternatives like gimp instead of photoshop and openoffice instead of msword
[09:20] <leo_rockw> Toshio: bmw shows the total up and down, not what i was looking for but thank you.
[09:20] <ubuntu-007> is there any player for it.
[09:20] <luke403> do any of you guys know anything about samba?
[09:20] <Saint`Diamond> Gimp's pretty good. Corel for the win!
[09:20] <leo_rockw> or krita and koffice ;-)
[09:20] <Dr_willis> Gimp saves me $$$ - gimp for the win.
[09:20] <leo_rockw> !samba | luke403
[09:20] <ubotu> luke403: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[09:20] <TrustNoOne> ya im not a fan of photo edit software, its confusing
[09:21] <fourvees> krz, have u used the alternativies
[09:21] <zcat[1]> I've always done everything in Gimp.. I tried to use photoshop once and ended up installing gimp 'cos I couldn't be bothered learning the differences
[09:21] <TrustNoOne> fourvees, i believe krz said earlier that he didnt like the alternatives
[09:21] <TrustNoOne> fourvees, at least for openoffice i think
[09:21] <krz> fourvees yea, gimp crashes a lot, and i dont trust openoffice format to msword all that well
[09:21] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: that's usually why people coming from photoshop don't want to learn the gimp, the differences
[09:21] <holli> hi folks
[09:21] <nordland-iv> Anyone here experienced with "Blender" ???
[09:22] <zcat[1]> so I guess gimp is different from photoshop, and probably just as hard going the other way
[09:22] <leo_rockw> krz: LOL
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: i do
[09:22] <GCtoday> Okay I used the install command 'E: Couldn't find package irssi'.
[09:22] <nordland-iv> how do you Pm?
[09:22] <luke403> i have a nother problem in ubuntu, it wont let me edit my config file because i dont have permissions and also i cant change any drive premissions for some reason.  i have admin privliges
[09:22] <nordland-iv> I'm new to XChat
[09:22] <GCtoday> It is on my desktop now
[09:22] <nordland-iv> and pretty new to Ubuntu itself
[09:22] <Starnestommy> nordland-iv: /msg user message
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: /msg nickname message
[09:22] <nordland-iv> gotcha, thanks guys
[09:22] <Jafet> Would libgl1-mesa-glx replace nvidia-glx?
[09:22] <zcat[1]> I go to photoshop presentations and then come home and figure out how to do exactly the same thing in gimp :)
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: you need a registered username, tho
[09:23] <fiksi> tes
[09:23] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: do you have the universe repository enabled in System > Administration > Software Sources?
[09:23] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], that means you have lots of free time
[09:23] <leo_rockw> krz: you can't say you trust .doc better than odf
[09:23] <zcat[1]> too much free time :)
[09:23] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], not all of us are so fortunate
[09:23] <holli> quck question: i've just run " apt-get install gcc-4.0" which worked, hoewever there still is no "cc" command. what am i missing?
[09:24] <zcat[1]> TrustNoOne: presumably it took you some time to learn photoshop..
[09:24] <sugoruyo> hi folks, can someone help me with some fstab questions?
[09:24] <krz> leo_rockw no i mean if im working on a resume on openoffice and have to save it as .doc to send to employers, i dont want them recieving some dosument that has the format all messed up
[09:24] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], no, because i didnt learn gimp or photoshop, i learned paint and thats about it, thats how simple i am
[09:24] <GCtoday> I have a whole bunch of tabs on that window.
[09:24] <Toshio> !ask | suroguyo
[09:24] <ubotu> suroguyo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:24] <fourvees> i will export it as a pdf and send te\hem
[09:25] <Jafet> holli, make a symlink from cc to gcc?
[09:25] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], u should check youtube for thi funny video series called "you suck at photoshop" this guy teaches photoshop in a hilarious way
[09:25] <ubuntu-007> !ask | ubuntu-007
[09:26] <TrustNoOne> !ask | ubuntu-007
[09:26] <ubotu> ubuntu-007: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:26] <TrustNoOne> lol
[09:26] <ubuntu-007> ;p
[09:26] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: check under "Ubuntu Software" for "Community-maintained Open Source software"
[09:26] <GCtoday> Okay crossed
[09:26] <holli> Jafet: as far as i can tell there is no cc command and no gcc
[09:26] <Toshio> Q: What's the easiest way to open up a port but only have it accessible from a remote location defined by way of dynamic DNS (someoneitrust.dyndns.org)?
[09:27] <Jafet> holli, then it seems that you haven't installed gcc.
[09:27] <SliMM> does anyone have a usb voip phone
[09:27] <SliMM> ?
[09:27] <zcat[1]> !b-e | holli
[09:27] <ubotu> holli: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:27] <TrustNoOne> 0.o
[09:28]  * holli wines
[09:28] <holli> i cannot compile if i have no compiler
[09:28] <Y-Town> anyone able to tell me how to redo x server with KDE?  I did a system update and once complete my nvidia created a problem
[09:28] <Jafet> Why not just apt-get install gcc
[09:28] <zcat[1]> holli: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <Starnestommy> holli: is build-essential installed?
[09:28] <Toshio> holli, do a "which gcc"
[09:29] <zcat[1]> Ummm.. if cc and gcc don't work... probably not installed?
[09:29] <holli> yay
[09:29] <holli> build-essential
[09:29] <holli> thank you
[09:29] <holli> but why was that no dependeny for the the gcc-4 package?
[09:30] <zcat[1]> b-e has gcc and lots of standard headers and stuff.. you might also need -dev packages if your program links to other libraries
[09:30]  * leo_rockw wonders why build-essential doesn't come bundled in a default ubuntu install
[09:30] <Y-Town> anyone know how to rebuild x server using KDE?
[09:30] <holli> all i want is getting CPAN to install XS modules
[09:30] <sugoruyo> i'm running 7.10 and i just had a HFS+ formatted ext. hdd crash on me (well the usb on the case anyway) so i stuck in my pc to read my files off it. I open h/w info and it says that disk is /dev/sdb, my windows hdd is /dev/sda and my linux hdd is /dev/sdc. Now that's all good except fstab seems to disagree. in fstab my windows partitions are referred to correctly but the linux stuff is referred to as being in /dev/sdb. If I try to mount my
[09:30] <sugoruyo> mac formatted partitions manually it works as /dev/sdb so wtf?! is going on?
[09:30] <Jafet> Bleh, I'm installing nvidia-glx-new again to see if the system stalls again.
[09:31] <zcat[1]> leo_rockw: because we don't expect most users to build from source.. otherwise they'd go run gentoo ..
[09:31] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: yeah, but it's not a considerably heavy package, it could be there by default
[09:31] <LimCore> hello
[09:31] <LimCore> anyone have evolution program here?
[09:32] <zcat[1]> leo_rockw: but then there'd be less room for mono :)
[09:32] <LimCore> anyone uses evolution?
[09:32] <ubuntu-007> LimCore: i do
[09:32] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: ¬¬ are you friends with de icaza? lol
[09:32] <zcat[1]> damn monkeys..
[09:32] <krz> so what do you guys think? i only need the following programs to run on linux and i can switch: msoffice, photoshop, illustrator
[09:32] <krz> you think wine will support these well enough?
[09:32] <leo_rockw> krz: are you going to pay for all those licenses?
[09:33] <zcat[1]> I removed fspot, tomboy and everything with 'mono' in the name off this desktop... filthy MSFT technology :)
[09:33] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: lol, good job
[09:33] <Jafet> zcat[1], why use Ubuntu then.
[09:33] <Seveas> zcat[1], mono is novell technology
[09:33] <zcat[1]> Yeah, I probably should just use debian
[09:33] <zcat[1]> it's an implimentation of .net which is utterly msft
[09:34] <Jafet> Debian is based off Red Hat as well.
[09:34] <zcat[1]> otoh I use smb ... but msft didn't actually invent that :)
[09:34] <Jafet> You want a One True Unix, go for a BSD.
[09:34] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: and they get a lot of lawsuits :-P
[09:34] <flowOver> i didn't think debian was based off redhat
[09:34] <flowOver> shocking
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Jafet: or ututo, my country's distro
[09:34] <Seveas> flowOver, it isn't
[09:34] <zcat[1]> I've run FreeBSD for a year or so.. I prefer linux
[09:34] <flowOver> thought so
[09:34] <Seveas> jafet's talking nonsense :)
[09:35] <leo_rockw> ututo is 100% free
[09:35] <Seveas> zcat[1], debian has mono/tomboy/fspot/banshee too :)
[09:35] <krz> leo_rockw well, not really ;)
[09:35] <leo_rockw> krz: then you're better off using OO.o and the gimp
[09:35] <Jafet> Seveas, er wait, I got something wrong somewhere then.
[09:36] <wizo> hey, what can i use to open images?
[09:36] <zcat[1]> wizo: eog
[09:36] <zcat[1]> or gimp if you want to edit them
[09:36] <Seveas> eog, f-spot, gimp, gthumb, display, firefox
[09:36] <wizo> ahh, cause right now i've gotta double click using the graphical interface
[09:36] <leo_rockw> wizo: gwenview
[09:36] <wizo> so i was wondering what program is opening it
[09:36] <gamerdude> anyone know why all the links to download ubuntu alpha 6 are dead? and anyone know of a place to get it?
[09:36] <Seveas> mirage
[09:36] <GCtoday> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate.  Before that. Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, had been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[09:37] <flowOver> just last week i thought it was hilarious seeing distro's built on ubuntu thats built on debian.  that would've been disappointingly hilarious if debian were based off redhat
[09:37] <zcat[1]> wizo: I think that's eog (eye of gnome)
[09:37] <GCtoday> That doesn't sound terribly good
[09:37] <Jafet> Must've been thinking about Fedora.
[09:37] <Seveas> gamerdude, wait a few days and get the beta
[09:37] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: apt-cache search irssi
[09:37] <wizo> zcat[1]: ah ok, thanks
[09:37] <terminal> leo_rockw; how i mount a partition frm gparted
[09:37] <Seveas> GCtoday, sounds like a broken sources.list
[09:37] <flowOver> i'm not a totally naive nub, but a nub none the less
[09:37] <Slart> gamerdude: ask in #ubuntu+1 .. that's the place to ask about hardy stuff
[09:37] <flowOver> i almost got caught
[09:37] <leo_rockw> terminal: you don't mount it, if you use gparted on a mounted partition you destroy it
[09:37] <gamerdude> thanks slart and seveas
[09:38] <legend2440> wizo: right click image file>properties>open with
[09:38] <Slart> terminal: you can right click on a partion in gparted and mount it.. but you might have to create an entry in fstab first.. not sure though
[09:38] <nordland-iv> how do you register!?
[09:38] <Slart> !register
[09:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:39] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entery
[09:39] <leo_rockw> Slart: you don't mount partitions to work on them w/ gparted. that's why the livecd is so useful for that stuff
[09:39] <flowOver> The new gnome i was reading has compositing without compiz.  How can I install it?
[09:40] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry i fstab
[09:40] <Seveas> flowOver, upgrade to hardy and read the gnome 2.22 relase notes to find out how to enable it
[09:40] <fourvees> gedit /etc/fstab
[09:40] <Slart> leo_rockw: who said anything about working on them in gparted.. he asked how to mount a partition in gparted..or did I miss some part of the conversation?
[09:40] <Slart> !fstab
[09:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:40] <Seveas> flowOver, but beware that hardy is still alpha
[09:40] <Seveas> !hardy | flowOver
[09:40] <ubotu> flowOver: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:41] <leo_rockw> Slart: he's trying to convert the free space of an ntfs partition into ext3
[09:41] <holli> how do i find out which ubuntu i'm currently running?
[09:41] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry i fstab
[09:41] <Slart> leo_rockw: ahh.. my bad.. just checked my log... you're right.. I'll go sit in the corner... without dessert.. =)
[09:42] <Dr_willis> lsb_release -a holli
[09:42] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry in  fstab
[09:42] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry in  fstab
[09:42] <flowOver> i think i'll just totally reinstall to hardy then.  i don't trust an upgrade on this install with all the wild command line mods i've done to this trying to get it stable.
[09:42] <leo_rockw> Slart: and pray to st. iGNUcius!
[09:42] <GCtoday> irssi-plugin-icq - ICQ plugin for irssi, Irssi-plugin-silc - SILCplugin for irssi, irssi-scripts - Collection of scripts for irssi, irssi-text - irssi dumby transition package, libconfig-auto-perl - magical file config parser, pidgin-plugin-pack - 30 useful plugins for pidgin, silc - terminal based SILC client.
[09:42] <Slart> seriously, terminal.. do you really thing repeating yourself every 5 secs will get you help faster..
[09:43] <zcat[1]> flowOver: I usually end up doing that .. pretty easy if you have a seperate /home and know all the programs you want installed afterwards
[09:43] <holli> thanks. 6.06. now, is there an easy way to upgrade a running system to something newer?
[09:43] <bazhang> !fstab
[09:43] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:43] <bazhang> see above terminal
[09:43] <holli> a remote server, btw
[09:43] <terminal> slart ;sryyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:44] <zcat[1]> zZzZ (10:45pm)
[09:44] <luke40341> can you guys help me with samba. i got it installed and swat is up and running.  When i try to put a file on the network drive (the ubuntu drive) it wont let me i can however read it
[09:44] <fourvees> hi luke make sure you have given enough permisions
[09:45] <GCtoday> Oh and I missed ekg - console Gadu Gadu client for Unix systems
[09:45] <GCtoday> Sorry about that.
[09:45] <luke40341> fourvees in swat i read only set to NO.
[09:45] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i closed ktorrent and my readings are normal, perhaps ktorrent wasn't limiting correctly (?)
[09:45] <Dr_willis> luke403:  you did give the linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[09:45] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: thanks for your help :-D
[09:46] <fourvees> what is the entry that is present in /etv/samba/sm.conf
[09:46] <flowOver> zcat[1] - i've intended to reinstall since the beginning.   this time i think i will setup a seperate /home.  thats a great idea!
[09:46] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  Possibly It may of kept older connections open.
[09:46] <bazhang> terminal: did you read that link?
[09:46] <luke40341> no
[09:46] <nicolinux> #generation-linux.fr
[09:46] <leo_rockw> nicolinux: spamspamspam! (i <3 python)
[09:46] <luke40341> will that let me write from windows?
[09:46] <terminal> bazhang; ya
[09:46] <fourvees> yes luke it will
[09:47] <luke40341> okay
[09:47] <luke40341> i will try it
[09:47] <krz> leo_rockw lets say i have the trial licenses for those software, can i run them on wine?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> luke40341:  i always just share the users home dirs. and give them samba passwords.
[09:47] <leo_rockw> krz: that's a maybe
[09:48] <leo_rockw> krz: check winehq... but the best way to tell is to actually try it
[09:48] <flowOver> krz:  you can't run the cracked exe on wine.  they have to be properly authenticated
[09:48] <TitraxX> hi
[09:48] <krz> flowOver damn
[09:48] <flowOver> so if you have a serial that authenticates, yes you can
[09:48] <krz> oh
[09:48] <moah> hello alltogether
[09:49] <flowOver> i just run cs3 in a vm
[09:49] <luke40341> Dr_willis are you saying in samba make users for all the people that will be connecting to the server
[09:49] <leo_rockw> flowOver: and you're proud of that!? lol
[09:49] <moah> has anyone here encountered a problem with ubuntu cds not booting on a somewhat older computer, while other distributions (and windows) do boot without a problem?
[09:50] <krz> flowOver ive only got one gig on my laptop, is that enough to run a vm?
[09:50] <GCtoday> What do I do next?
[09:50] <flowOver> who said i'm proud?  its just easier to run in a vm
[09:50] <fourvees> hi luke in /etc/samba/smbusers file there will be mapping between unix and windows name
[09:50] <leo_rockw> moah: define problem
[09:50] <flowOver> krz- possibly.  it'd hit the system good but i think it'd be done.  i only have 2
[09:50] <wookienz> hi guys,i think my harddrive may have some physical errors... what linux command can i sue to check it and mark them as bad?
[09:50] <luke40341> okay
[09:51] <moah> leo_rockw: ubuntu cd does not boot, other cds boot.
[09:51] <flowOver> i give xp 512
[09:51] <leo_rockw> wookienz: fsck (but not when the partition is mounted)
[09:51] <krz> wookienz its not worth sueing anyone for physical errors in linux
[09:51] <Arelis> which is the best virtualization program?
[09:51] <flowOver> moah - did you check the image for integrity before burning it?
[09:51] <wookienz> krz: ?
[09:51] <leo_rockw> moah: define "does not boot" do you get a menu at all?
[09:52] <wookienz> leo_rockw: if it is the main HDD any other way i can check it?
[09:52] <moah> leo_rockw: it is a somewhat older computer (4-5 years), so could it be that modern ubuntu cds use something this old computer does not support any more?
[09:52] <fourvees> arelies it depends, virtualbox, xen ...
[09:52] <leo_rockw> wookienz: livecd
[09:52] <wookienz> ahh
[09:52] <moah> leo_rockw: no, the computer simply ignores the CD and proceeds to boot the installed system.
[09:52] <leo_rockw> moah: could be, but you should at least be getting the menu
[09:52] <YAKSKLMM> slmm
[09:52] <leo_rockw> moah: ooo, ok, that's why i was asking
[09:53] <YAKSKLMM> okey
[09:53] <leo_rockw> moah: woah, that's weird... i'd do an image integrity check like flowOver suggested
[09:53] <moah> leo_rockw: yes, it does not even reckognize cd as bootable, i suppose.
[09:54] <leo_rockw> moah: did you try it on any other comp?
[09:54] <legend2440> GCtoday: youstill trying to install irssi?
[09:54] <flowOver> krz: HAH!
[09:54] <moah> leo_rockw: i didnt do any integrity checks yet, but this behaviour repeated with several ubuntu releases in the last past year.
[09:54] <lieve> hi, I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G wireless adapter to work. I've installed the Windows driver in ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l says that the device is present
[09:54] <lieve> lspci finds the device and everything
[09:54] <lieve> but it doesn't show up in ifconfig, the only interfaces I can find in ifcnfig are eth0 and lo
[09:55] <flowOver> moah: it may just be corruption from connection you have with the server
[09:55] <lieve> any ideas?
[09:55] <leo_rockw> moah: you may want to report a bug then
[09:55] <flowOver> check the md5 sums on the bins and use the torrent download
[09:56] <moah> flowOver: I'll do the file checks before i report a bug, but i dont think i messed up the download several times just with ubuntu.
[09:56] <moah> ok, thanks.
[09:56] <moah> I hoed that this kind of bug maybe already was known.
[09:56] <flowOver> and the cd not booting is not an issue with ubuntu
[09:56] <GCtoday> I'll stop by again later, thanks for all your help thus far.
[09:56] <leo_rockw> moah: you could check launchpad
[09:57] <moah> flowOver: it is an issue with ubuntu, since other distros (and windwos) boot, but ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu do not.
[09:57] <flowOver> if it only proceeds to your system instead of recognizing the disc, it's your system.  their isn't many different ways to set up a disc to boot
[09:57] <Seveas> lieve, ifconfig -a
[09:58] <flowOver> either that or the image is off
[09:58] <flowOver> or you're burning it wrong
[09:58] <moah> flowOver: yet, but even if its my system (i thought it is maybe to old or such things) the problem occurs only with ubuntu as of now.
[09:58] <thedefender> anyone have any experience with xrandr and the open source ATI driver with dual heads
[09:59] <leo_rockw> moah: did you ever try a canonical live cd?
[09:59] <moah> flowOver: no, i burned several other distros the same way, and there were no probs.
[09:59] <rinaldi_> lieve: have you activated the module? do "depmod -a" if there is no errors, do "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[09:59] <moah> leo_rockw: yes, the normal ubuntu release iso.
[09:59] <leo_rockw> moah: i mean shipit cds
[09:59] <moah> um, no, not yet.
[10:00] <fiksi> halo. does easyubuntu works the same way as automatix?
[10:00] <moah> but thanks anyway. I think I'll first do the md5 check and then report a bug.
[10:01] <hyw> hi
[10:01] <flowOver> what's with landscape?  i guess canonical really does just have one perogative.
[10:01] <hyw> Can I install 7.04 then update to 7.10?
[10:02] <Seveas> fiksi, yes, they both destroy your system
[10:02] <fiksi> ??
[10:02] <legend2440> fiksi:  pretty muc the same but easyubintu is no longer maintained  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[10:03] <fiksi> owh
[10:03] <Seveas> fiksi, they have both destroyed lots of systems, better not use them
[10:03] <Seveas> it's not at all needed
[10:03] <fiksi> so i better un installed them, seveas?
[10:03] <Seveas> yes
[10:03] <Seveas> and if you have used automatix, you should not count on any support :)
[10:03] <fiksi> ok
[10:04] <fiksi> yeah
[10:04] <fiksi> i think something wrong with those things
[10:05] <fiksi> if i uninstalled automatix, what happen to my other application which i have installed through automatix?
[10:05] <Seveas> fiksi, ugh, so you used it....
[10:05] <Seveas> fiksi, they won't be removed but there's a non-trivial chance that automatix broke other parts of your system
[10:05] <Seveas> it's notorious for that
[10:05] <thedefender> anyone have any experience with xrandr and the open source ATI driver with dual heads
[10:06] <leo_rockw> isn't the automatix team working along w/ ubuntu now?
[10:06] <fiksi> seveas, which system?my application-automatix-installed?
[10:06] <thedefender> would like to use grandr but it doesn't seem to work
[10:06] <Seveas> fiksi, other parts of ubuntu
[10:07] <Seveas> leo_rockw, depends on what you call working :)
[10:07] <fiksi> so, i better not to uninstalled automatix?neither use it?
[10:07] <legend2440> Seveas: i have a question about envy. i have ati radeon 9600 and i have never had success installing proprietary drivers manually. but envy has always succeeded. so why is it not recommended?
[10:07] <mafia> is there room for hackers ?
[10:07] <leo_rockw> Seveas: idk, that's why i'm asking, something i read recently in the blogospehre
[10:07] <Seveas> fiksi, better uninstall it
[10:07] <Seveas> legend2440, because it also tends to break random things
[10:07] <Seveas> !worksforme | legend2440
[10:07] <ubotu> legend2440: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:07] <leo_rockw> mafia: lemme check... no, we're booked till late september
[10:08] <Seveas> !automatix | fiksi
[10:08] <ubotu> fiksi: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:08] <mafia> ty :)
[10:08] <flowOver> what's ubuntu studio all about?  I didn't see before when i downloaded gutsy.  it's in the list for hardy though.
[10:08] <mafia> and also no for spammers ?
[10:08] <leo_rockw> mafia: you may stay for the cake, tho
[10:08] <Seveas> mafia, spammers will be shot on sight
[10:08] <leo_rockw> mafia: if by spam you mean "monty python"
[10:08] <Seveas> !ubuntustudio | flowOver
[10:08] <ubotu> flowOver: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[10:09] <flowOver> oo neat :)  sealed deal
[10:09] <mafia> i mean spam bank logins like bank of america wells wachovia lol
[10:09] <thedefender> flowover: the Realtime kernel is key for the audio part of studio
[10:09] <icesword> !compiz
[10:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:10] <mafia> حد بيتكلم عربى
[10:10] <leo_rockw> mafia: oh yeah, we shoot those on sight... where's that snipper thingy now...?
[10:10] <david_J> My internet is wireless(not my choice)
[10:10] <Seveas> mafia, english please.
[10:10] <mafia> ok sorry
[10:10] <Seveas> !ot | mafia
[10:10] <ubotu> mafia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:10] <fiksi> seveas, is there anything i can do to prevent my other part broken when i uninstaled automatix?
[10:10] <flowOver> oh! the theme is full of way more awesome
[10:11] <david_J> I want to use scp to copy files between 2 laptops, but I want to use a wired network via crossover
[10:11] <krz> flowOver what if its not about running the cracked exe on wine, but replacing some files (cracked dll's) in the installation dir. will that run?
[10:11] <leo_rockw> mafia: if you have a question or are willing to help, then you're welcomed here, if not, go away.
[10:11] <Seveas> fiksi, uninstalling the thing won't break more things
[10:11] <mafia> ok man
[10:11] <icesword> !info compiz
[10:11] <ubotu> compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:11] <david_J> Can I have the two coinside?
[10:11] <Seveas> leo_rockw, not so harsh!
[10:11] <tocmo0nlord> i was going to ask a question
[10:11] <fiksi> ok
[10:11] <fiksi> thank you
[10:11] <tocmo0nlord> but i totaly forgot
[10:11] <david_J> Will I have to tell ssh what ip address to listen to?
[10:11] <leo_rockw> krz: asking help to crack a win app is not a good idea
[10:11] <flowOver> krz: nope.  i didn't realize the crack was dll's.  i just assumed they were exe's.  dll's are executed libraries though so you're sol.  buy software.  don't pirate ;)
[10:11] <mafia> i have question my cam open only at even days
[10:11] <Seveas> david_J, only with manual configuration, not eith the current network manager
[10:12] <mafia> how can i make it work all days
[10:12] <icesword> hello
[10:12] <flowOver> i do believe adobe gives out trial licences though
[10:12] <icesword> guys
[10:12] <leo_rockw> Seveas: well, he's clearly just here to mess around
[10:12] <icesword> how do i install compiz,sudo apt-get install compiz?
[10:12] <Seveas> leo_rockw, yeah
[10:12] <david_J> I have both cards set up different ips
[10:12] <david_J> I can ping between the computers
[10:12] <david_J> but scp just hangs
[10:12] <david_J> I can access the outside internet
[10:12] <thedefender> flowOver: if themes is your thing try installing sudo apt-get install gnome-art usplash startupmanager
[10:13] <Seveas> icesword, on hardy it's installed by default, on gutsy that command should do it
[10:13] <leo_rockw> flowOver: and the ubuntu calendar ;-)
[10:13] <icesword> Seveas:k,thx
[10:13] <thedefender> flowOver: comes with a boat load of cool stuff
[10:14] <icesword> !info emerald
[10:14] <ubotu> emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 198 kB, installed size 956 kB
[10:14] <thedefender> flowOVer: plus you will need starupmanager to help you in grub cause the Realtime kernel of studio
[10:14] <flowOver> btdt :)  i was just stoked that the default theme is way cooler
[10:15] <thedefender> I hate ATI......just gotta say it
[10:15] <flowOver> the only default part of this computer left is the filemenu icon and it flashes that skin beige between login and desktop.
[10:15] <leo_rockw> thedefender: AMD is taking care of it, don't worry
[10:15] <david_J> DOH! it was my firewall
[10:15] <david_J> It is transfering much quicker now
[10:15] <david_J> :)!
[10:15] <leo_rockw> david_J: haha, congrats
[10:16] <tocmo0nlord> why is ubuntu so kick ass ?
[10:16] <david_J> IPTABLES annoys me lol
[10:16] <thedefender> leo_rockw: I've been screwing around with that damn FGLRX every month. I am tired of it, so now I'm trying to figure Xrandr and the open source ATI driver
[10:16] <daizisheng> I always liked FLAG DAY!!
[10:16] <thedefender> tocmoOnlord: cause it allows you to stick it to the MAN for FREE
[10:16] <leo_rockw> thedefender: unfortunately the open source driver doesn't work for me at all
[10:17] <leo_rockw> thedefender: AMD released the specs, so luckily a new open source driver will come out soon
[10:17] <bazhang> daizisheng: nice; do you have a support question?
[10:17] <daizisheng> It's the RINSE CYCLE!!  They've ALL IGNORED the RINSE CYCLE!!
[10:17] <flowOver> is the hardy studio up to alpha 6?
[10:17] <bazhang> !ot | daizisheng
[10:17] <daizisheng> I will establish the first SHOPPING MALL in NUTLEY, New Jersey...
[10:17] <ubotu> daizisheng: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <daizisheng> Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??
[10:17] <tocmo0nlord> thedefender whoa hey there hold on, im not sticking it to any man
[10:17] <mmcji> having problem, i am getting sound coming out of my laptop speakers when i have headphones plugged in
[10:17] <bazhang> daizisheng: please stop
[10:17] <daizisheng> Now I'm telling MISS PIGGY about MONEY MARKET FUNDS!
[10:17] <mmcji> i am using a dell inspiron 1520
[10:17] <bazhang> !ops | daizisheng
[10:17] <daizisheng> I'm a GENIUS!  I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN SONTAG!!
[10:17] <ubotu> daizisheng: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[10:17] <daizisheng> Someone in DAYTON, Ohio is selling USED CARPETS to a SERBO-CROATIAN!!
 theres already a shopping mall in nuttley
[10:18] <daizisheng> I'm a GENIUS!  I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN SONTAG!!
 or is that clifton ?
[10:18] <icesword> ...
[10:18] <mmcji> any suggestions?
[10:18] <tocmo0nlord> butt sex!
[10:19] <Seveas> tweet tweet
[10:19] <prince_jammys> :)
[10:19] <bazhang> cuckoo
[10:19] <prince_jammys> strange goings on here
[10:19] <thedefender> leo_rockw: i've got resolution problems, it can't seem to tell how to configure both my heads, even if they do get FGLRX up and running bug free, I still don't know how I will enable the module for the RT kernel
[10:20] <mmcji> and am running xubuntu 7.10
[10:20] <Seveas> prince_jammys, must be the phase of the moon
[10:20] <BaD_CrC> is there a chan dedicated to "server" and "jeos" releases?
[10:20] <prince_jammys> #ubuntu-server
[10:20] <Seveas> BaD_CrC, there's #ubuntu-server
[10:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server and #jeos perhaps?
[10:20] <Seveas> and I think there's a #jeos as well
[10:20] <Seveas> could be #ubuntu-jeos
[10:21] <BaD_CrC> not #u-jeos
[10:21] <bazhang> no #jeos it seems
[10:21] <thedefender> does anyone know if XGL still has the annoying problem of suddenly crashing then restarting X
[10:21] <bazhang> thedefender: using compiz?
[10:21]  * laypeople 双手抱拳，作了个揖道：各位内行哈髅阿！
[10:21] <thedefender> bazhang: yes
[10:21] <thedefender> bazhang:  of course
[10:21] <Seveas> !ch | laypeople
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <BaD_CrC> well, what i was wondering is, is it possible to setup the restricted manager in CLI mode to use wireless drivers?
[10:22] <Seveas> !cn | laypeople
[10:22] <ubotu> laypeople: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:22] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion can sort you thedefender
[10:22] <thedefender> bazhang:  its not a compiz-fusion problem, its a fglrx and XGL problem
[10:22] <BaD_CrC> i want to setup a media extender box, but i don't want X or anything bloated installed.
[10:23] <bazhang> thedefender: well they know the most about xgl; it is sparsely populated here at the moment so you can wait for answer in either place; perhaps put a mesage up there and then post here every so often
[10:23] <thedefender> Bad_Crc: what do you mean by media extender, if you mean a media server there are plenty of ways to do that with mythTV, and there are several linux distros which are made to be just that
[10:24] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: avoiding mythtv
[10:24] <thedefender> bazhang: i guess your an Nvidia user huh
[10:24] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: i'm thinking more along the lines of web based with apache
[10:25] <bazhang> thedefender: aye
[10:25] <Seveas> BaD_CrC, you only need mpd and/or icecast :)
[10:25] <icesword> bazhang:to install compiz ,command is sudo apt-get install compiz,right?
[10:25] <BaD_CrC> Seveas: not for WAN consumption. :)
[10:25] <thedefender> Bad_CrC: and all you want is to be able to? store media, stream it to other pc's? or what
[10:25] <bazhang> icesword: for gutsy? then it is sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:26] <icesword> bazhang:yes,gutsy,thank you,
[10:26] <bazhang> icesword: mei wenti ;]
[10:26] <lesshaste> I am trying to upgrade to ubuntu-docs 7.10.5 and it has just stopped on "Setting up ubuntu-docs" with more or less 100% cpu usage going
[10:26] <lesshaste> top says scrollkeeper-up is running
[10:26] <lesshaste> what should I do?
[10:27] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: yeah, just a light file server, samba for windows access, apache for my crazy php goodness, mysql or postgresql for the database backend.
[10:27] <thedefender> i'm thinking about giving up and just running ubuntu's outdated (yet stable) FGLRX and then XGL. I had the least graphics problems with that setup but got plagued by random and unprovoked crashes
[10:27] <kleth> lesshaste: I got the same prob yesterday. But I just gave it some time, and it did finish after a while
[10:27] <lesshaste> kleth: oh ok.. is there a reported bug for this do you know?
[10:27] <thedefender> everything looked beautiful though
[10:28] <lesshaste> thedefender: what's the problem?
[10:28] <kleth> lesshaste, no idea, but don't think so. It works, it just take quite a time
[10:28] <lesshaste> kleth: that seems a little buggy and also I notice there is no "cancel" button at this point
[10:28] <kleth> lesshaste, true, I guess it could be fixed
[10:29] <kleth> lesshaste, but I dont know if there a bugreport on it
[10:29] <lesshaste> kleth: ok thanks
[10:29] <BaD_CrC> well, i guess i could do a net install of debian with nothing selected except LAMP stuffs...
[10:30] <thedefender> lesshaste: well I wanted to run the open source ATI since its used by default, plus it automatically works in the RT-kernel. I'm running dual heads on a ATI 9800 Pro (R350) and I am having trouble getting Xrandr to work correctly. Also notice some OpenGL issues with screensavers, but compiz runs great.
[10:30] <sap> Hi, I've made a static ip for the computer under an account which has root priviliges . However, the network settings cannot be accessed from other user accounts and the ip remains dynamic on those accounts. How can I make the changes global i.e. set the ip static for all those other accounts also?
[10:30] <kleth> lesshaste, np, just let it do the work, catch a cup of coffee or something, then it will suddenly  finish
[10:30] <lesshaste> thedefender: ah ok.. I use fglrx and it seems to work perfectly.. so gar
[10:30] <lesshaste> far
[10:30] <lesshaste> kleth: :)
[10:30] <lesshaste> thedefender: have you reported a bug?
[10:30] <thedefender> lesshaste: what card, are you running dual heads, and compiz
[10:31] <lesshaste> thedefender: not dual head.. it radeon express 200
[10:32] <thedefender> lesshaste: and the latest FGLRX straight from ATI or the one from Ubuntu Restricted Repos
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: exactly
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: that one
[10:32]  * leo_rockw is going to sleep. good night/day for everyone
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: but I only upgraded to gutsy last week so I may not be the best person to talk to about this
[10:32] <thedefender> lesshaste: there were two choices there
[10:32] <kleth> leo_rockw, gn8
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: the latter
[10:32] <thedefender> aye
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: one choice, two alternatives :)
[10:33] <thedefender> my faith in ATI was never as shaken until I started using linux
[10:33] <lesshaste> thedefender: this is unfortunate..it's always been ok for me
[10:33] <wookienz> hi, i have mounted a 500gb share from a NAS box sitting on the network. Anytime i try and explre the share from the icon on the ubuntu desktop it times out and nothing is shown.. it basically locks up the computer for a minute or so until it errors. Any ideas why this would happen. A 50gb share off the same NAS shows up fine. It there a size restriction on mounting shares?
[10:34] <lesshaste> thedefender: remember compiz and beryl have been quite buggy themselves
[10:34] <nordland-iv> Hey, does anyone use Wifi-Radar?
[10:34] <stefan_> hi
[10:34] <lesshaste> nordland-iv: I did but I prefer nm-applet
[10:34] <thedefender> lesshaste: but apparently people having not only gotten the open source to work with dual heads but they have gotten compiz to work with it as well
[10:35] <legend2440> does anyone know the terminal command that writes list of all installed packages to a text file?
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: oh...looks like you need to be on a suitable forum
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: don't forget to report any bugs you find
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: that's very important
[10:35] <bazhang> legend2440: installed by dpkg?
[10:35] <stefan_> due to fan-problems while running 2.6.22 i want to downgrad to kernel 2.6.20*. is there a way to do that via apt? i have backports in apt, but i cant find the kernel.. HELP
[10:35] <legend2440> bazhang: yes
[10:35] <thedefender> stefan: weird problem
[10:36] <lesshaste> stefan_: fan problems? Is this a hardware fault or something in the kernel?
[10:36] <Seveas> legend2440, dpkg --get-selections
[10:36] <sureshot> hey all it has been a long time since i used ubuntu what is the build- what command
[10:36] <thedefender> stefan: how about you just keep the box open
[10:36] <lesshaste> stefan_: I ask as going up may be better than down
[10:36] <bazhang> legend2440: you could cat dpkg -l to a text file I suppose
[10:36] <sureshot> and syntax
[10:36] <proairgun> join #ubuntu-fr
[10:36] <legend2440> Seveas: yes thats it could'nt remember ty
[10:36] <bazhang> sureshot: for compiling? the package name?
[10:37] <stefan_> lesshaste: kernel problems. the how do i upgrade?
[10:37] <lesshaste> stefan_: ok.. you want to upgrade to the hardy heron kernel maybe
[10:37] <stefan_> how?
[10:37] <thedefender> !hardy heron
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <sureshot> bazhang i guess i need the compilers and such installed
[10:37] <thedefender> !hardy
[10:37] <lesshaste> stefan_: take a look in this forum post http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4465243
[10:38] <lesshaste> stefan_: also.. is there a bug report for this problem?
[10:38] <lesshaste> stefan_: start on page 1 of the post :)
[10:38] <thedefender> anyone gotten grandr to work?
[10:39] <bazhang> sureshot: build-essential then
[10:39] <stefan_> lesshaste: that are 56 pages
[10:39] <lesshaste> stefan_: go to page 1
[10:39] <lesshaste> stefan_: http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=9ab89bbe83d1b7bb442812403cfb647f&t=646755
[10:39] <sureshot> i put an s a the end duh
[10:40] <lesshaste> Note to everyone, if you have a problem and you have researched it and it is almost definitely a bug, PLEASE report it somewhere other than here
[10:40] <Jafet> Why does nvidia-glx-new suggest nvidia-settings but nvidia-settings conflicts with nvidia-glx-new?
[10:40] <nikitis> In /etc/fstab how would I enter in an entry for this normal commandline mount.  "$ sudo mount /home/niki/Music /home/niki/Games/Music" ?
[10:40] <nikitis> err i mean "$ sudo mount --bind /home/niki/Music /home/niki/Games/Music" ?
[10:40] <cookedegg> can someone tell me how to start a process (gnome-do in this case) so that it runs in the session background, not through an open terminal.  PS - this would replicate the call made by the gnome-do menu item
[10:40] <legend2440> Seveas: now once i get a text file with list of all installed packages is there any way to use that file when i do clean install of heron (when it comes out) to tell synaptic to install these same packages?
[10:40] <geirha> susscorfa: it used to be with an s at the end, but they changed it in some release :)
[10:40] <lesshaste> can we add bug reporting to the topic?
[10:40] <bazhang> !bugs
[10:40] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:41] <Seveas> legend2440, dpkg --set-selections < file_with_selections_here.txt && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[10:41] <lesshaste> bazhang: :)
[10:41] <bazhang> ;]
[10:41] <lesshaste> stefan_: does that look ok?
[10:41] <Seveas> geirha, nonsense
[10:41] <legend2440> Seveas: great ty
[10:42] <AdvoWork> hi there. is there any way to check DNS is working properly on my ubuntu server?
[10:42] <icesword> how i can install emerald?is it sudo apt-get install emerald
[10:42] <icesword> bazhang:
[10:42] <Seveas> AdvoWork, dig @ip.of.server some.domain.name.that.should.work
[10:42] <bazhang> icesword: aye
[10:42] <icesword> okiookokokokok
[10:42] <Seveas> icesword, your keyboard seems broken :)
[10:44] <icesword> hehehe]
[10:45] <jms1989_xp> What would be a good video capture card for linux. Ideally, it should support video4linux.
[10:45] <afancy>  Hi, when i install a software on Ubuntu, I met the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:45] <afancy> what is the matter?
[10:45] <Exaltia> does someone know how i can launch krfb as soon as the computer start ?
[10:45] <bazhang> afancy: this is gutsy?
[10:45] <afancy> yes
[10:46] <stefano> !topic
[10:46] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:46] <stefano> sry fc
[10:46] <AdvoWork> if ive got some emails that arent sending properly, which log would I look in to see the issue? im looking in zimbra.log and mail.log yet see nothing
[10:46] <troms> hei
[10:46] <bazhang> jms1989_xp: you might try the hardware channel for that
[10:46] <Seveas> afancy, we'll need the complete output, pastebin it
[10:46] <afancy> cannot find the library: librt.so.1 and libc.so.6
[10:46] <troms> er d
[10:46] <Aeonoris> When I try to run games like epsxe or gltron, it opens a black window for a few seconds, and then crashes.  The terminal just says "Aborted (core dumped)", without any other errors beforehand
[10:47] <bazhang> troms: support question in there? ;]
[10:47] <fiksi> seveas, everytime i use terminal and synaptic to download n install application, my firefox doesn't work. is it normal?
[10:48] <afancy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:48] <Seveas> fiksi, no
[10:48] <afancy> hi, the error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:48] <Exaltia> !remote control
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote control - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <thedefender> !pastebin
[10:48] <fiksi> seveas, any solution?
[10:48] <thedefender> !paste
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:48] <fiksi> or any website i can read?
[10:48] <afancy> can anyone help me on this problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:49] <Seveas> afancy, you're installing unsupported proprietary software via a .bin file. We don't support that at all
[10:49] <chuy_max> !seen arreis
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen arreis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <afancy> what do u mean?
[10:49] <thedefender> hey seveas code you look at an error that i just got?
[10:49] <jms1989_xp> Where is the hardware channel?
[10:49] <bazhang> chuy_max: you can /msg ubotu if you want someone to chat with
[10:49] <thedefender> could*
[10:49] <Starnestommy> jms1989_xp: ##hardware
[10:49] <Seveas> afancy, it means you're out of luck
[10:49] <bazhang> ##hardware
[10:49] <afancy> i jsut want to know which library i should install
[10:50] <afancy> which library includes libc.so.6??
[10:50] <Seveas> afancy, whatever you try to install simply doesn't work on ubuntu
[10:50] <chuy_max> bazhang, I'm trying to find when was the last time arreis was connected, do you know what's the command?
[10:50] <bazhang> chuy_max: not sure sorry
[10:50] <fiksi> seveas, is there anything i could do to make my firefox keep browsing while i download n install application?
[10:50] <Seveas> afancy, and given that it's closed source we cannot and do not want to support it
[10:51] <Starnestommy> chuy_max: /msg seenserv seen arreis
[10:51] <msingh> is there a place to put a script to do stuff when the network is detected down?
[10:51] <chuy_max> afancy, are you downloading java?
[10:52] <Trubadurix> hi can i get ubuntu studio in synaptic so i dont have to dowload a iso file?
[10:52] <wookienz> hi, i have mounted a 500gb share from a NAS box sitting on the network. Anytime i try and explre the share from the icon on the ubuntu desktop it times out and nothing is shown.. it basically locks up the computer for a minute or so until it errors. Any ideas why this would happen. A 50gb share off the same NAS shows up fine. It there a size restriction on mounting shares?
[10:52] <Seveas> Trubadurix, yes
[10:52] <chuy_max> thanks Starnestommy :D
[10:52] <Seveas> !ubuntu studio | Trubadurix
[10:52] <ubotu> Trubadurix: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[10:52] <thedefender> Seveas: hey could you look at an error I got and see if there is some obvious answer of why it isn't working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59809/
[10:52] <Trubadurix> seveas: but wich package shoul i chose there is many
[10:53] <atlef> !Istanbul
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Seveas> Trubadurix, ubuntustudio-desktop
[10:53] <Trubadurix> ok thx
[10:53] <thedefender> trubadurix:  don't install desktop
[10:53] <Trubadurix> ?
[10:53] <rausb0> !info istanbul | atlef
[10:53] <ubotu> atlef: istanbul (source: istanbul): Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (gutsy), package size 70 kB, installed size 608 kB
[10:54] <Exaltia> !faq
[10:54] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:54] <thedefender> trubadurix:  don't install there is some bug with the studio desktop and gnome
[10:54] <Trubadurix> what about ubuntustudio-audio ?
[10:54] <thedefender> trubadurix:  install the audio, video and graphics, don't install theme splash desktop, but sounds is fine
[10:55] <Trubadurix> ok will do
[10:55] <npster> why I got grub 18 error when I eject the cd? I use Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
[10:55] <wers> what app can you recommend for managing pictures?
[10:55] <wers> i have picasa and f-spot installed
[10:55] <thedefender> trubadurix: yes audio is fine but if you want to take full advantage of the real time effects processing you will need to install the Realtime kernel, and most likely the restricted drivers kernel headers
[10:56] <npster> why I got grub 18 error when I eject the cd? I use Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
[10:57] <thedefender> trubadurix:  also i install the starup manager for ubuntu so that i can tell it would to but into first (and add a little color to grub) easily
[10:57] <legend2440> wers: http://ceitl.zanestate.edu/blog/archives/2005/11/photo-organizing-in-linux/
[10:57] <thedefender> trubadurix: You use the Realtime kernel for audio but if your doing something like Blender then you want to be in generic
[10:57] <Trubadurix> ehm does this change some look in ubuntu?
[10:57] <Seveas> yes
[10:58] <wolfric> hey i've got this wierd error where its telling me my usb drive is read only... cant copy anything over to it... anyone know how to fix it?
[10:58] <wers>  one is running on mono while the other is on wine. oh man. haha
[10:58] <wolfric> it said access denied when i tried dragging so i used terminal to sudo mkdir just to check and it said it was read only..
[10:58] <Trubadurix> is it like a media center?
[10:58] <thedefender> trubadurix: its useless, and actually crashes the metacity with the studio theme
[10:58] <gary4gar> how do i control CPU fan speed? I could turn up my fan speeds before doing something intensive, and turn them down before i went to sleep so my room was quieter
[10:58] <thedefender> studio is for Audio and Visual Production
[10:59] <npster> !grub18
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub18 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <thedefender> musicians, graphic artist, film makers
[10:59] <pookey> hi all - I need to do a remote install for someone - does the server install disk have a method to start up ssh, set  a root password, and have the installer run remotely over an ssh sessoin?
[10:59] <bazhang> npster: what cd? that grub error is often when the cylinder value exceeds that allowable by the bios..
[10:59] <lesshaste> stefan_: does that look ok?
[10:59] <Trubadurix> thedefender: whats this with realtime kernel can i do without?
[10:59] <stefan_> lesshaste: still installing
[10:59] <Starnestommy> npster: check #18 on http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage2-errors
[10:59] <lesshaste> stefan_: ah ok :)
[11:00] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Uh, a quick google search suggests there might be a little switch somewhere on the USB stick?
[11:00] <wolfric> nope
[11:00] <lesshaste> are there any tricks for extending battery life in ubuntu other than powertop?
[11:00] <lesshaste> I ask as it seems much less than in windoze
[11:00] <wolfric> its an external usb hard drive which works fine on windows
[11:00] <bazhang> wolfric: what are the permissions on the stick
[11:01] <thedefender> trubadurix: yes you can, and you will still be able to use the effects and JACK but without it there will be a slight delay in the processed sound. And if your a guitarist or a singer, a 70 Millisecond delay is a bit bothersome
[11:01] <winkman> anyone using campcaster?
[11:01] <wolfric> on ubuntu? i dont know how do i check? on the usb? by default anyone can do anything to it
[11:01] <thedefender> trubadurix:  what video card do you use and what driver?
[11:02] <winkman> exit
[11:02] <npster> I need help with grub 18 error, anyone?
[11:02] <Trubadurix> thedefender: ati radeon x600  fglrx driver
[11:03] <wolfric> bazhang: i think its saying root and everyone else can -access files- is tehre any way to change that?
[11:03] <bazhang> npster: did you check the link Starnestommy gave you?
[11:03] <gary4gar> how do i control CPU fan speed? I could turn up my fan speeds before doing something intensive, and turn them down before i went to sleep so my room was quieter
[11:03] <thedefender> ouch, FGLRX current or the one from Ubuntu?
[11:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview wolfric this may help with permission issues
[11:04] <wolfric> ty
[11:04] <lesshaste> are there any tricks for extending battery life in ubuntu other than powertop?
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: hm.. seems to work fine now.. at least the fan doesnt run at120% any more.. the problem was, that if it once ran on high speed, it wouldnt slow down, even if the temp was low
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: im testing now
[11:04] <lesshaste> stefan_: hooray! I would like a pizza with anchovies please :)
[11:04] <Trubadurix> thedefender ehmm
[11:04] <thedefender> trubadurix: is it the FGLRX from ATI's site or is it the restricted repo driver
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: hrhr
[11:05] <thedefender> trubadurix: did you install driver or did ubuntu
[11:05] <Trubadurix> thedefender: good question ^^  i think i install with terminal in 6.04 and upg dist
[11:06] <stefan_> lesshaste: works. fna slowed down again. thanks
[11:06] <lesshaste> fna?
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[11:06] <stefan_> fan
[11:06] <bazhang> hi!
[11:06] <lesshaste> aha
[11:06] <lesshaste> stefan_: so all good?
[11:06] <stefan_> yap
[11:06] <Trubadurix> thedefender: its not from ati site
[11:06] <lesshaste> stefan_: you could report the problem and the fix maybe on the forum?
[11:07] <stefan_> lesshaste: there is a bugreport already
[11:07] <lesshaste> stefan_: oh.. report it there then :) what's the url?
[11:07] <thedefender> trubadurix: do you run composite with it, the only reason i ask is because there is a slight problem with the RT Kernel and the latest ATI driver, the module doesn't load in the RT Kernel
[11:07] <MasterAslan> how do I change what a command calls.  I need to change sensors to call /usr/bin/sensors instead of /usr/local/bin/sensors
[11:08] <Trubadurix> thedefender: what u mean with if i run composite with it?
[11:08] <fiksi> exit
[11:08] <stefan_> lesshaste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/110391
[11:08] <thedefender> trubadurix: so you wouldn't have DRI in RT. but if its from ubuntus restricted Repository then you can run XGL and still have it run fine
[11:08] <Seveas> MasterAslan, move /usr/local/bin/sensors out of the way :)
[11:08] <thedefender> trubadurix: like compiz or beryl
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: looks like you will make their day :)
[11:09] <thedefender> trubadurix: so I guess your a guitarist
[11:09] <MyNameIs> MasterAslan, an alias in you're .bashrc will handle that
[11:09] <stefan_> lesshaste: by posteing the workaround or what?
[11:09] <npster> bazhang: What link? I'm using gutsy gibbon live cd, I already install the CD, and everytime I restart my PC(without the CD) It shows Grub 18 error.
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: yes
[11:09] <Trubadurix> thedefender: i had that couble of time in 6.10 but can i check it?
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: it's really helpful to see how someone fixed a problem
[11:10] <Trubadurix> thedefender: well no i just want to try make some music on a pc :)
[11:10] <Aeonoris> When I try to run a 3d game, a black window appears for a few seconds then dissapears, after which the terminal says "Aborted (core dumped)" without any errors before it.
[11:10] <stefan_> lesshaste: i dont know if that bug is for ubuntu 7.10 (2.6.20 is in older ubuntus?)
[11:10] <stefan_> bugreport
[11:11] <npster> bazhang: What link? I'm using gutsy gibbon live cd, I already install the CD, and everytime I restart my PC(without the CD) It shows Grub 18 error.
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: Same here with kernel:
[11:11] <lesshaste> Linux pukeko 2.6.22-14-386 #1 Sun Oct 14 22:36:54 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: in the bug report
[11:11] <legend2440> npster: http://www.saynotomilk.com/archives/5
[11:11] <Starnestommy> npster: what partitions do you have on your hard disk?
[11:11] <thedefender> trubadurix: the audio package in ubuntu-studio is great for that, hydrogen drum machine, and a bunch of recording apps. Best thing is JACK (Jackless Audio Connection Kit) Allows you to mix and match the outputs and inputs of the software and the physical connections on your pc
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: "The same problem in thinkpad x61, kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux version is Ubuntu 7.10 , the cpu fan speed never slow down"
[11:12] <npster> I use full disk space, Starnestommy
[11:12] <UBIKING> i have ubuntu 7.10
[11:12] <Exaltia> !X export
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x export - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <DuperMan> yo
[11:12] <Exaltia> !export
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about export - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <stefan_> lesshaste: ok ill try to register
[11:12] <thedefender> trubadurix: its almost like having a multitrack recording system but, virtual
[11:12] <lesshaste> stefan_: thanks
[11:12] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > Exaltia
[11:12] <Trubadurix> thedefender: so if i install adio only it dont install realtime kernel?
[11:12] <thedefender> no
[11:13] <Trubadurix> ok thx i will do that then :)
[11:13] <Exaltia> okay jpatrick  :)
[11:13] <DuperMan> anybody can help with installing on umpc?
[11:13] <DuperMan> pwetty pwease:)
[11:13] <pookey> hi all - I need to do a remote install for someone - does the server install disk have a method to start up ssh, set  a root password, and have the installer run remotely over an ssh sessoin?
[11:13] <thedefender> Trubadurix: you actually have to go into synaptic and install the kernel, and I would also install the RT kerenl headers and the RT kernel restricted drives package
[11:14] <rausb0> pookey: no. you will need to boot a live cd with sshd on it and install with debootstrap.
[11:14] <wolfric> bazhang: tried going into media and doing sudo chmod 777 disk but that did nothing.. im a bit stuck here....
[11:14] <npster> Starnestommy: it doesn't help.
[11:14] <pookey> rausb0: ok, thanks!
[11:15] <thedefender> Duperman: they actually have a ubuntu version made for tablets and mobile devices like that
[11:15] <Starnestommy> npster: I'm not sure what's causing the problem
[11:15] <wxx> SE5J6SE54K6SE56
[11:16] <cvasilak> hi there, can anyone recommend a good screencasting software?
[11:16] <wxx> WSSSSSSS
[11:16] <pepe_> istanbul
[11:16] <wers> what code do i enter to purge an app?
[11:16] <kandinski> I have this external hard disk that my fresh gutsy install does not recognise; is there any way I can make the system "see" the disk by hand?
[11:16] <wxx> I'M ITALY
[11:16] <rausb0> wers: sudo apt-get remove --purge pkgname
[11:16] <pepe_> screencast -> istanbul
[11:16] <Starnestommy> wers: what do you mean by "purge"
[11:16] <kandinski> wers: sudo aptitude remove <appname>
[11:16] <wers> thanks rausb0
[11:17] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Dunno if anyone asked already, but what does just "mount" in the terminal say about the drive? rw?
[11:17] <kandinski> "purge" means delete the cached download fo the .deb package too
[11:17] <thedefender> Duperman:  just check this out http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[11:17] <Seveas> kandinski, no
[11:17] <pepe_> NOPE: purge means remove config files
[11:17] <kandinski> Seveas, ah, sorry
[11:17] <icesword> hello
[11:17] <pepe_> for cleaning the cache: apt-get clean
[11:17] <kandinski> pepe_: thanks
[11:17] <wolfric> aeonoris: sorry im new to linux where do you mean i can see that?
[11:17] <rausb0> kandinski: no, the downloaded .debs are deleted with apt-get clean
[11:18] <icesword> !purge
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <icesword> !info purge
[11:18] <ubotu> Package purge does not exist in gutsy
[11:18] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Open up a terminal and type "mount"
[11:18] <wolfric> /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[11:19] <wolfric> does that say anything or do you need another line?
[11:19] <Aeonoris> wolfric:  Then I think I don't have any more ideas, sorry :S
[11:20] <legend2440> npster: is this a laptop your trying to install on? what kind?
[11:20] <icesword> wolfric:what is wrong
[11:20] <wolfric> cant change permissions on my usb external hard drive ntfs formated
[11:20] <icesword> hmm,you need root priveliges
[11:20] <wolfric> cant write files to it... if i try chmod change it it says changing disk (read only file system) and then just doesnt work
[11:20] <wolfric> im using root to change it
[11:21] <skurakai> hi. can someone help me with webcam A4Tech PK-130MG? EasyCam doesnt work and French have manual in french :)
[11:21] <wolfric> or sudo rather to change it
[11:21] <icesword> wolfric:ntfs-3g already running
[11:21] <Bo^Dick> is there a smart way of making iso files from cd's?
[11:21] <wolfric> icesword: you're talking to a noob here with linux sorry bud what does that mean
[11:23] <Aeonoris> Bo^Dick, if I'm not mistaken, there's something in the menu when you right-click on a cd, that says "copy disk", or something?  I think?
[11:23] <wolfric> icesword: ive tried to sudo mkdir on the disk and it just says read only filesystem
[11:23] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
[11:23] <kekZpriester> on a newly installed ubuntu, java and flash plugins (sun-jvm, flash-nonfree) for firefox use OSS for sound output, which blocks alsa on the sound device. how do i make these plugins use alsa instead?
[11:24] <thedefender> well as usually, I didn't get jack squatary from ubuntu support irc. and now im off on a reboot to get this stupid xrandr to work. good luck and your problems and happy solution hunting
[11:24] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: that would imply that the iso format is a totally raw format
[11:24] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: raw?
[11:24] <crimsun> kekZpriester: flashplugin-nonfree (as of several releases ago) uses ALSA by default, actually.
[11:24] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: raw data
[11:25] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: binary that is
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: what kind of cd is that?
[11:25] <kekZpriester> crimsun, okay, then the problem is caused by java, i think
[11:25] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: audio cd
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: you cannot make images of audio cds
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: you can only read the audio tracks
[11:26] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: cdparanoia
[11:26] <DuperMan> wtf rausb
[11:26] <DuperMan> sure you can make images of anyshit... depends on image type
[11:26] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: so the iso format only applies to cds with a filesystem on them?
[11:27] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: yes. audio cds have no filesystem.
[11:27] <DuperMan> oh, iso format. yeah, just an archive....
[11:27] <Aeonoris> When I try to run a 3d game, a black window appears for a few seconds then dissapears, after which the terminal says "Aborted (core dumped)" without any errors before it.  If I run supertux (which I think is 2d), my compy freezes.
[11:28] <rausb0> DuperMan: iso is the only standardized image type. audio images are application (mostly windows) specific
[11:28] <Bo^Dick> i wanna clone a simple audio cd
[11:28] <wookienz> when you specify a type option during a mount command... are you specifying how you would like to mount it or the type of filesystem you ARE mounting...
[11:29] <Iggle-Piggle> mythstream is broke since i upgraded to 0.21 is this easily fixed?
[11:29] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: as long as it doesn't have copy protection, use k3b or brasero or cdparanoia and wodim
[11:29] <cherva> where is the directory containing the text files with the shortcuts in the Applications menu ?
[11:30] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: thanks
[11:30] <cherva> withe the shortcuts of the apps in the Applications menu *
[11:30] <cherva> with**
[11:31] <bazhang> Iggle-Piggle: for #ubuntu-mythtv ? they have a channel for that you know
[11:31] <icesword> am
[11:32] <icesword> hmm.i am still online,it is ok
[11:32] <legend2440> cherva: /usr/share/applications
[11:32] <cherva> legend2440: thanks
[11:33] <legend2440> cherva: yw
[11:34] <DuperMan> where do i go for embedded system installs etc?
[11:34] <frold> what is the best spam protection for evolution? Spamassasin isnt you userfriendly - there must be a userfriendly alternative....
[11:35] <LimCore> hello
[11:35] <LimCore> anyone have openoffice?
[11:35] <nagyv> hello! I just tried to prevu firefox 3 to help backporters, but I get a "Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies". For others it seems working fine. Is there some "obvious" way to satisfy dependencies in prevu?
[11:35] <nagyv> LimCore: yes, almost everyone here :)
[11:36] <frold> Openoffice come along with 7.10
[11:36] <rausb0> DuperMan: is the embedded platform a non-x86 compatible arch?
[11:36] <bentob0x> anybody knows why my audio switch from one soundcard to the other (I have two) without telling me what's going on?
[11:36] <DuperMan> well, got an arm machine
[11:36] <LimCore> nagyv: amd64?
[11:36] <DuperMan> and a c-m7 umpc
[11:36] <DuperMan> @rausb
[11:37] <bentob0x> every time I reboot, feels that the sound is going through another soundcard
[11:37] <nagyv> LimCore: nope
[11:37] <LimCore> because I need someone to help me verify bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[11:37] <rausb0> DuperMan: ubuntu only supports x86 and x86-64
[11:37] <DuperMan> well the via is x86 compatible
[11:37] <DuperMan> @rausb just need a touch of help getting the onboard wlan workind
[11:37] <rausb0> DuperMan: arm is not via
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: and arm is not x86 compatible
[11:38] <DuperMan> rausb0: true, the arm is in a different machine
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: you didn't say that
[11:38] <DuperMan> rausb0: said before i got two machines, forgot to nick highlight
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: hmpf
[11:39] <rausb0> DuperMan: okay, which wlan card is it?
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: my bad. am noob here
[11:39] <IdleOne> prolly sis191
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: rtk8187b
[11:39] <dan> hi all: i have a "small" problem with the asus eee (4GB HDD), ubuntu installed without problems, however the internet connection is not detected. Please help me specifically, the net is full of infor mation, that i cannot use.
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: problem seems to be card not set to wake on lan or somesuch
[11:39] <LimCore> can anyone please verify bug because I need someone to help me verify bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[11:39] <rausb0> DuperMan: rtl8187b is not supported yet. only rtl8187
[11:40] <vu> hi everybody!
[11:40] <Aeonoris> Does anyone know how to fix an "Aborted (core dumped)" error when it doesn't say any other errors but that?
[11:40] <rausb0> DuperMan: wireless with wake on lan?!
[11:40] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks man. sorry for bashing before on the audio iso image thing.
[11:40] <DuperMan> rausb0: seemed dumb to me too, but that was the only solution or approximation of one google produced
[11:41] <vu> szerezi valaki a sóskát?
[11:41] <wolfric> is there any reason for "unmount" to not be found as a command? ubuntu just wont recognize it
[11:41] <Aeonoris> umount
[11:41] <Aeonoris> It's wierd.
[11:41] <wolfric> lol ty
[11:41] <legend2440> wolfric: its umount
[11:42] <n2diy> I just got 10 SD flash drives, I could label 8 of them, but 2 won't initialize. Is there a way to initialize them, or are they DOA?
[11:42] <nagyv> !hu | vu
[11:42] <ubotu> vu: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[11:42] <DuperMan> rausb0: any idea how one can help with the 8187b driver?
[11:42] <rausb0> DuperMan: maybe rtl8187b will be supported in kernel 2.6.25, i don't know. for now the rtl8187 module only supports rtl8187 (without the b).
[11:42] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks. i wanna ubuntu my umpc bad:D
[11:43] <nagyv> DuperMan: might be hardy has it, and you can try backporting
[11:43] <DuperMan> nagyv: tried hardy, no go
[11:43] <rausb0> nagyv: i don't think so
[11:43] <Nuxis> hey I'm trying to make alsa work on a acer laptop with card hda intel. I compiled the latest alsa with the right ./configure options etc.. but still no sound. Alsa dmesg | grep snd --> nothing
[11:43] <Nuxis> anyone an idea?
[11:43] <bazhang> dan: have you checked the eeepc channel or wiki for that?
[11:43] <DuperMan> rausb: ndis found installed driver. still didn't work
[11:43] <samir> Salut
[11:44] <IdleOne> !fr | samiam
[11:44] <ubotu> samiam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <rausb0> DuperMan: i don't use closed source drivers at all. so no experience with ndiswrapper here.
[11:44] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks man
[11:45] <DuperMan> all: anybody with good ndiswrapper experience/understanding?
[11:45] <nagyv> I just tried to prevu firefox 3 to help backporters, but I get a "Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies". For others it seems working fine. Is there some "obvious" way to satisfy dependencies in prevu?
[11:45] <neeto> Is there a way that I can send mouse input to only one process?
[11:45] <LollinopiL> holà holà! who know the name of a program that could remove the useless files and folders ?
[11:45] <archangelpetro> LollinopiL, it depends what you 'define' as useless files and folders
[11:45] <dan> buzhang: not yet, thanks for the info, didn't knew about it.. goin' there 2
[11:46] <Nuxis> anyone ?
[11:46] <legend2440> LollinopiL: fslint
[11:46] <archangelpetro> Nuxis, have you set the volume settings?
[11:46] <LollinopiL> archangel well, i mean the files like what remain from an uninstallation etc etc
[11:46] <thetux> hello
[11:46] <Nuxis> archangelpetro: yup there all not muted and highest volume
[11:46] <archangelpetro> LollinopiL,  i think 'rm' does pretty well :D
[11:47] <archangelpetro> Nuxis, im afraid that's all i can suggest.. i'm not very well versed in 'the art of bringing da' funk' on alsa
[11:47] <archangelpetro> in short, i suck :)
[11:47] <Nuxis> kk
[11:47] <bazhang> dan: #eeepc and www.eeeuser.com ;]
[11:47] <thetux> anyone know how to make glx work on a FSC with via onboard video card?
[11:47] <LollinopiL> legend do u use it ? must i do a backup before using it ?
[11:47] <archangelpetro> ok
[11:48] <archangelpetro> any of you with an NVIDIA card, i'm trying to install Ogre3d.. and i get the following error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL.... can any of you suggest a resolution? (or a package)
[11:48] <Nuxis> btw I was following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:48] <thetux> anyone know how to make beryl/compiz work on a FSC with via onboard video card?
[11:49] <DuperMan> thetux: you really better don't:)
[11:50] <Silex> hi, if I have a bouncer that I want to automatically start when my box starts
[11:50] <Silex> should I put that in /etc/rc.d or /etc/init.d ?
[11:50] <Aeonoris> Does anyone know how to fix an "Aborted (core dumped)" error when it doesn't say any other errors but that?  Because it occurred when I installed a new graphic driver suggests it's a graphical error, but it always seems to be right after it tries to load the sound.
[11:52] <thetux> :((
[11:53] <legend2440> LollinopiL: yes i use it but you must be careful. backup is always a good idea. deborphan in synaptic is good for getting rid of files no longer in use by other programs
[11:53] <marowit_> Hi. How do i make a system wide command that executes shutdown when battery is on critical level?
[11:55] <JC_Denton_> I have a java process running which I'm unable to kill using top (ran sudo top)
[11:56] <StLemur> Hi, I'm running Gutsy with Gnome. I have a USB external HDD /dev/sda1 which is not automounted on startup. When I try to delete files from it in a nautilus window I get the message "Error "Not on the same file system" while deleting <filename>" but when I delete files in a terminal using rm there's no problem.
[11:57] <m3gach33zy> hey ubuntu guys i need some help with my laptop... when i try to open a partitioned part of my hard drive i get an error saying i cant mount the volume what do i do?
[11:57] <geirha> JC_Denton_: try with kill -9 <pid>
[11:58] <Silex> hi, if I have a bouncer that I want to automatically start when my box starts, should I put that in /etc/rc.d or /etc/init.d ? can't find any decent tutorial on the ubuntu help pages
[11:59] <geirha> Silex: /etc/rc.local is run last during boot, and is meant for running custom scripts
[11:59] <JC_Denton_> geirha thanks. what's the difference between 15 and 9 (and I don't mean 6)
[11:59] <marowit_> StLemur, I think that's because rm doesn't try to put the file in trash
[12:00] <Silex> geirha: thank you
[12:00] <geirha> Silex: if it needs to be run in a certain order, putting it in /etc/init.d would be the thing to do, and then set which runlevels it should run with update-rc.d
[12:00] <legend2440> LollinopiL: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[12:00] <StLemur> marowit_: ah, OK. So do I need to create a .Trash on /mnt/sda1? How do I do that?
[12:01] <LollinopiL> yeah thx!
[12:01] <Silex> geirha: also if I want the /etc/init.d/foo stop|start|restart scheme I guess
[12:01] <Silex> geirha: thanks for clearing it up
[12:01] <Nuxis> someone else ?
[12:02] <StLemur> marowit_: I just looked. There is a .Trrash-<my username>...
[12:02] <StLemur> er, .Trash-<my username>
[12:02] <geirha> JC_Denton_: -15 is the kind version of kill, it allows the application time to shut down itself. -9 is the brutal version which just ... kills it
[12:03] <Silex> -9 makes no prisoners
[12:03] <Silex> :)
[12:03] <Pirate_Hunter> hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware, basically to check if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:05] <Pirate_Hunter>  hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware, basically to check if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:06] <JC_Denton_> thanks geirha
[12:06] <tony_> i use ultimate edition ubuntu it has hardinfo on it that does what your lookin for
[12:07] <JC_Denton_> Is there a gnome plugin allowing you to extract archives from the nautilus file, right click menu?
[12:07] <geirha> Pirate_Hunter: if there is, I've never heard of it, and I doubt such an application exists. Escpecially on the hardware part, since a lot of hardware lacks documentation of how they work
[12:07] <geirha> JC_Denton_: there should be one installed by default
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_, you should just be able to dble click and have it open the archive manager
[12:08] <marowit_> StLemur, i don't thinks thats the case (manually creating trash), I'm affraid i cant' help much more, but if you can live without trash you can use Shift+delete to bypass it.
[12:08] <mah_> j\ #linuxac
[12:08] <cherva> I'm building a program to keep an eye on my mail server ( who is sending mails) I can see when someone is sending a mail and the reciver with "watch tail mail.log" ,but how can I the message body ?
[12:08] <StLemur> marowit_: ah, OK, thanks
[12:09] <mah_> j/ #linuxac
[12:09] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow: "extract to this location" would be speedier..
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> mah_,   /join #linuxac
[12:09] <mah_> j/ #linuxac
[12:09] <gustav_> ubuntu
[12:10] <Pirate_Hunter> geirha: i wouldve thought something like the windows version of system utilities would exist but ill try asking one more time
[12:10] <Pirate_Hunter> geirha: third time is always a charm
[12:11] <Pirate_Hunter> hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware (i.e. like system utilities available on windows), i need to basically to  if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, one explanation might be that since Ubuntu is not as buggy as windows we dont really need one
[12:13] <geirha> JC_Denton_: Sure you don't have an option like that, I have an "Extract here" ...
[12:13] <neeto> How does one launch firefox from the command line to immediately open up a specified website?
[12:13] <geirha> neeto: firefox http://...
[12:13] <neeto> geirha: thanks
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> geirha, there is an extract here .. yes
[12:14] <foo8ar> hi  all, where could i get some helpful hints abount installing gutsy on a g4 macmini?
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[12:14] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:15] <archangelpetro> poor ppcers
[12:15] <manguy> hi, i'm going to try installing ubuntu on my intel mac with boot camp.  are there any potential problems i might run into?
[12:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm yeah i ve been thinking about that, the reason is that ive been having probs with my system, im wondering if it is ubuntu or the actual hardware either way both suggestions are weird since i have never had these problem
[12:15] <Varitech>  irc://irc.Fansub-IRC.org/kyuuden-fansub
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, What problems
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Varitech, Please dont
[12:16] <howefield> yeah manguy, you'll end up not using mac os ;)
[12:16] <manguy> howefield:  :P
[12:17] <lordleemo> Pirate_Hunter: system administration system monitor  is that what you want   or sudo gnome-system-monitor
[12:17] <n2diy> I just got 10 SD flash drives, I could label 8 of them, but 2 won't initialize. Is there a way to initialize them, or are they DOA?
[12:17] <stefano> n2diy, are they all the same?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, HAve you tried to force mount them.. those two may be used and locked down
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: 1st, hd seems to be grinding lately, when starting ubuntu or sometimes when ubuntu is idle, twice i had hd failure where it spat soem gibberish on me and ubuntu modules failed also grub sometimes doesnt come on and i have to restart again last ubutnu seems to be getting sluggish on certain occasions... its really upsetting
[12:17] <n2diy> stefano: say, they all came in a lot.
[12:18] <hans_> goeden middag
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, see fsck.. but that sounds like a drive about to fail...
[12:18] <dj2008> www.stroganov-shop.ru
[12:18] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, no I haven't, how would I do that?
[12:18] <stefano> !nl | hans_
[12:18] <ubotu> hans_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, one sec
[12:18] <stefano> :-)
[12:18] <Pirate_Hunter> has anyone actually manage to get flash working on opera 9.2, if so please explain how?
[12:19] <hans_> nog nederlanders hier
[12:19] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, What is weird is they work in my camera, but Ubuntu won't play with them.
[12:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: will probably have to do that one i find the install cd for my ubuntu otherwise do it from recovery which i have yet to experience with
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, http://forum.notebookreview.com/archive/index.php/t-211958.html           see the last entry
[12:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: right now one of my hd is off even knowing it is connected to the system arrrrhhhh just want to strangle someone
[12:20] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, taking a look.
[12:20] <noober> how to set up samba server?
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> !samba
[12:21] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, You may also have a marginal power supply cauing a problem like that.  A marginal power supply seems to kill hard drives
[12:21] <olejorgenb> what is the proper way of setting the gtk-theme if I'm not running gnome
[12:21] <olejorgenb> ?
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: hmm ok but what is that exactly if i knew i could verify if that is so
[12:21] <olejorgenb> I tried making a .gtkrc-2.0, but it didn't work
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, There are sites online where you tell it your hardware and it tells you how big your power supply should be.
[12:23] <anton55> what are you useing instead of gnome find a theme manager for what your using
[12:23] <olejorgenb> I'm using ion
[12:23] <icesword> !compiz
[12:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:23] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: thanx ill google for marginal power supply and see if it gives anything decent
[12:23] <stefano> what is ion?
[12:23] <olejorgenb> a window manager
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, we could go into propper cooloing and all of that.. but . we are drifting into offtopic.. that is about all the help I can give in that direction
[12:23] <stefano> sry i'll jfgi
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, power supply wattage calculator
[12:24] <olejorgenb> i just want a file where I can write which theme gtk should use
[12:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: np your help has been appreciated thank you very much
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> any time
[12:24] <stefano> ion is a window manager for people who love a tidy desktop it seems
[12:24] <stefano> :>
[12:24] <olejorgenb> stefano: hehe, yes
[12:24] <foo8ar> ubuntu boots ok on the mac but i get normal bash prompt. how could i bootstrap the X instalation program or do an console based default installation?
[12:25] <olejorgenb> When I run gnome-theme-manager it changes the theme, but it's not permanent
[12:25] <stefano> foo8ar, you could defenetely do the latter
[12:26] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, mount doesn't see the cards, so I don't know what device to force?
[12:28] <mahill> can anyone here help me with a synaptics touchpad issue?
[12:29] <stefano> mahill, what's your spesific issue?
[12:30] <mahill> well, I have an allocated area of my touchpad to act as the v scroll, but for some reason, ubuntu ALSO wants to use about 1/4 of my regular touching area as v scroll
[12:30] <stefano> phew
[12:30] <mahill> ?
[12:30] <stefano> sorry no idea about that, you can turn off vscroll if that would help
[12:30] <stefano> and issue a thread in the forums about it
[12:31] <mahill> yeah, but if I turn off v scroll, it turns it off completely
[12:31] <mahill> yeah, I found a thread on the forums with like...2 posts.  Nothing resolved
[12:31] <stefano> :\
[12:31] <thedefender> anyone use xrandr?
[12:31] <Psylion> hello guys
[12:31] <mahill> well, 3 posts now
[12:32] <Psylion> could someone help me ?
[12:32] <stefano> thedefender, xrandr doesnt work for me, it crashes everytime i click somewhere
[12:32] <thedefender> psylion: you have to ask for help first?
[12:32] <mahill> what's your issue Psylion?
[12:32] <Psylion> :)
[12:32] <stefano> hello
[12:32] <Psylion> well i have mixxx
[12:32] <Psylion> 1.5.0
[12:32] <Psylion> and i want to put the new version :) but im noob on linux
[12:32] <stefano> Psylion, please try to keep questions in one line so that it's easier to read them
[12:33] <thedefender> stefano: well it works for me but when ubuntu boots my secondary screen is operating at a rate 85 when it needs to be 60
[12:33] <thedefender> i know how to change it to 60 but how to i make it be 60 at startup
[12:33] <Psylion> a friend of me have been and help me put my hercules dj console work , but i want to install new version of mixxx
[12:33] <thedefender> tired of having to do it each time
[12:33] <Psylion> its in tar.gz and i dont know what to do sory guys
[12:34] <stefano> Psylion, what kind of files does it have in it?
[12:34] <stefano> Psylion, if there is a configure file and make a automake or make file, it is a source code package which you have to compile
[12:34] <Psylion> can u help me with that stefano ?
[12:35] <geirha> !compile | Psylion
[12:35] <ubotu> Psylion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[12:35] <wookienz> when you specify a type option during a mount command... are you specifying how you would like to mount it or the type of filesystem you ARE mounting...
[12:35] <stefano> Psylion, this should help you
[12:35] <stefano> good luck :-)
[12:35] <stefano> btw mixxx is a fun program
[12:36] <Psylion> thx :)
[12:37] <wookienz> im trying to umount a share but it says that the deivce is busy...any thoughts on how i can force it to unmount or find out why it is busy?
[12:37] <Eric_Jardas> hello
[12:37] <gnobody> hi
[12:37] <Dr_willis> wookienz:   I think 'lsof /dev/DEVICE' will show some info.
[12:37] <Eric_Jardas> can anyone tell me where can I download awn key gpg key from ?
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg doesn't exist :(
[12:38] <Dr_willis> wookienz:  but if its a samba share, you may have a program thats just accessed it then crashed. or somthing.
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> would anyone using it send it to me ?
[12:38] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, you normally get the pgp key from the owner
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, that is the gpg key that I should use...thats what their wiki says
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !gpg
[12:39] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[12:39] <SupaFly> anyone here managed to compile battle for wesnoth v1.4 on gutsy successfully?
[12:39] <Eric_Jardas> Jack_Shade, so ?
[12:39] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, oh i see, wel that depends highly on the creator and is not a generic issue
[12:39] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, just happens to be a dead link i suppose
[12:39] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  heh - thats on my todo list.
[12:40] <Eric_Jardas> I know...I'm asking if anyone who is using awn would send the gpg file to me :)
[12:40] <SupaFly> Dr_willis i always get stuck where the configure moans about sdl mixer not supporting ogg, but i know for a fact it does :S
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !awm
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Psycoshot>  Hey, I have a usb flash drive, when I plug it in, I get asked what I want to do. I click open in new window but no windows opens. Nothing is in /media
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !find awm
[12:40] <ubotu> Found: drawmap, nawm
[12:40] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, google doesnt have the key in their cache either
[12:40] <SupaFly> !awn
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, nope :(
[12:41] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  not tried it yet. I always turn the sound down anyway. :)   so i may compile it it no sound..
[12:41] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, did you try this key: http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/F4ECF181.gpg ?
[12:41] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, nope..gonna try now
[12:41] <Radar> When trying to run glxgears I get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:41] <Radar> What is wrong?
[12:41] <stefano> i bet it'll work
[12:41] <SupaFly> Dr_willis how did you go about compiling it with no sound? just ./configure -no sound like that?
[12:42] <Radar> I have the line to load glx in my xorg.conf file.
[12:42] <gnobody> hey guys, whats the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  i havent tried yet. :)
[12:42] <Radar> gnobody: irssi
[12:42] <Dr_willis> !best | gnobody
[12:42] <ubotu> gnobody: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:42] <SupaFly> !goingtobloodykillsomebodyinasec
[12:42] <stefano> Calm down :O
[12:42] <stefano> everythings under contro
[12:42] <stefano> l
[12:42] <dvoid> where do i change kwallet password?
[12:43] <Radar> it's saying failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so, even though that file already exists.
[12:43] <stefano> Radar,  does it have the right rights? (e.g. are you allowed to read it?)
[12:43] <dogfishguzzler> Can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu isn't seeing my usb external hd?
[12:43] <Radar> stefano: yeah I can read it
[12:44] <dogfishguzzler> here is my output from syslog when I plug it in. http://pastebin.com/m505caf47
[12:46] <icesword> f
[12:46] <icesword> *
[12:46] <icesword> *
[12:46] <icesword> k
[12:46] <pau> hi i can't burn a cd, i think that it's because cdrecord haven't permissions, do you know how to change it?
[12:47] <gvsa123> should i go for samba or a client-server?
[12:47] <jpatrick> !enter | icesword
[12:47] <ubotu> icesword: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:47]  * Radar <3's irssi's ability to easily ignore joins, parts and quits.
[12:48] <stefano> gvsa123, samba is bad (bad as in evil)
[12:48] <Radar> brb
[12:48] <icesword> jpatrick;do not mask me,
[12:48] <stefano> gvsa123, your best option is ntp if you have it available on both system
[12:48] <stefano> ss
[12:48] <stefano> -s
[12:48] <dogfishguzzler> Anyone willing to trouble shoot usb external hd?
[12:48] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, did you try another usb port?
[12:49] <aspire_> hello
[12:49] <aspire_> is there any one here that can help me with setting up mu DHCP?
[12:49] <gvsa123> stefano: ntp?
[12:49] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: I thried them all. I get this in syslog when I plug it in. http://pastebin.com/m505caf47
[12:49] <stefano> aspire_, do you mean a dhcp server or a client?
[12:49] <pau> hi i can't burn a cd, i think that it's because cdrecord haven't permissions, do you know how to change it?
[12:49] <stefano> !ntp | gvsa123
[12:49] <ubotu> gvsa123: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[12:49] <icesword> !burn
[12:49] <stefano> oh sorry
[12:49] <stefano> lol
[12:49] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:49] <Radar> Alrighty, the error I'm getting is: http://pastie.caboo.se/166333
[12:49] <Radar> !glx
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <jtravnick> anyone running into update for ubuntu-docs just stoping?
[12:50] <icesword> jpatrick;do not mask me,
[12:50] <stefano> !nfs | gvsa123
[12:50] <ubotu> gvsa123: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:50] <Gecko> Hey there. I don't get it... Ubuntu doesn't detect any other operating systems during install even though I have another ubuntu installation as well as a ms windows... Any hints?
[12:50] <aspire_> hello
[12:50] <aspire_> stefano: I am supposed to be assigned an IP from my modem
[12:50] <aspire_> but get this message
[12:50] <aspire_> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[12:50] <aspire_> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[12:51] <gnobody> is there a way to have the text on my desktop icons display beside the icon, rather than under the icon
[12:51] <dogfishguzzler> aspire: For some reason mine does that too but if I do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart it works.
[12:51] <icesword> linux is stupid to detect linux os before
[12:51] <hele> Any good replacer for win software like cpu-z ? i want see etc memory frequency and divider
[12:51] <stefano> aspire_, it seems there is an issue with your router/gateway, since those devices are very different i don't think i can help you with this, try to tinker with your router to see if theres anything configured the wrong way
[12:52] <icesword> hele:less /proc/cpuinfo
[12:52] <icesword> hele:less /proc/meminfo
[12:52] <Radar> aspire_: make sure it's on the same subnet and so on as your router.
[12:52] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, what kernel are you using? (you can find out by typing uname -a into a terminal
[12:52] <Radar> I know it should find it automatically, but see if you can ping it in the first place.
[12:52] <gvsa123> stefano: i'll check it out... ever since i started using linux, i've used samba to connect my xp and ubuntu because of the shared folders that's accessible both ways (when i get the config right)...
[12:52] <icesword> less /proc/version,that is it
[12:53] <tla> Hi.  Is this the best place to ask about wireless on ubuntu (gutsy) or is there a dedicated channel?
[12:53] <stefano> gvsa123, nfs does not work with windows
[12:53] <dogfishguzzler> 2.6.20.15 generic
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Still no free NFS client stuff for windows?
[12:53] <stefano> gvsa123, file sharing issues with windows machines are fairly common - i just assume it doesnt work :-)
[12:53] <icesword> g
[12:53] <Radar> tla: ask away?
[12:53] <icesword> o
[12:53] <icesword> o
[12:53] <icesword> d
[12:53] <icesword> b
[12:53] <icesword> y
[12:53] <FloodBot1> icesword: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <icesword> e
[12:54] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Sorry I didn;t include your nick on that post you may have missed it 2.6.20.15 generic is my kernel
[12:54] <hele> icesword: Good, but not telling anything about frequency
[12:54] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, try to adress the people youre replying to by typing their name at the beginning of your message, you can autocomplete names with the tab key. otherwise messages get lost easily
[12:54] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, allrighty :>
[12:55] <icesword> hele:IMPOSSIBLE! less /proc/cpuinfo
[12:55] <icesword> !cpuinfo
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpuinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <icesword> :(
[12:56] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, your hard drive may not get enough power. does it have an external power supply and if so is it plugged in?
[12:56] <icesword> hele:you got it?
[12:56] <hele> iceword: Telling only outer frequency for core. Not a ward for inner  frequency or fsb
[12:56] <icesword> i am sorry
[12:56] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: No external power supply
[12:56] <stefano> hele, your bios should give you some info on that
[12:56] <gvsa123> stefano: i've always managed to make samba work
[12:57] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, i just read something on a german forum about a guy having the same issue, he later found out that the hard disk didnt get nough power
[12:57] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Can this be fixed?
[12:57] <aspire_> stefano: not currently using a router
[12:57] <aspire_> directly connected to my modem
[12:57] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6
[12:58] <aspire_> Radar: not actually using a router, using a modem
[12:58] <stefano> aspire_, if you don't use a router then whom should you get the ip adress from?
[12:58] <hele> sfefano: I now, but trying to find some program for linux so there is no need to windows if you are overclocking
[12:58] <gvsa123> stefano: the thing is that i don't have a router / home network... i only connect them to synchronize my files (sorta like backing up to my linux) and basic file transfer... but since i did  a clean install of gutsy, i was wondering whether it was better for me to try out a different way of connected xp and ubuntu
[12:58] <Radar> I am getting an error with glx failing to load: The error I'm getting is: http://pastie.caboo.se/166333, anyone?
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> can anybody help me with some ALSA asoundrc scripting?
[12:58] <Ax-Ax> How do I type ³?
[12:58] <stefano> gvsa123, when using both windows and linux youre sort of forced to use samba
[12:58] <aspire_> stefano: the modem used to assign it to me
[12:59] <aspire_> that is the ISP actually
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX,  /join #Alsa
[12:59] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Thanks for your help.
[12:59] <aspire_> stefano: why does my modem not do that?
[12:59] <Ace2016> !seen Ace2016
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ace2016 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <gvsa123> stefano: so that's the way to go eh... what about ftp?
[13:00] <stefano> aspire_, no idea, sorry. did you do what comcast always tells you to do in an annoying fashion? ("Did you reset the moden?"
[13:00] <qwertymn> hi
[13:00] <Da_Putzler> hi guys, I just done a manual install of Sun Java 1.6.0_05 and it all works fine, but I cannot tell Ubuntu to use that as default Java as it doesnt appear on the list
[13:00] <Da_Putzler> any ideas ?
[13:00] <tla> ok, I have a Belkin 802.11 preN card.  I have installed ndiswrapper and loaded the driver module.  iwconfig & friends sees the card OK.  Problem is that I am not getting an IP address assigned from the wireless router.  Another windoze system is getting an IP so I dont think it is a router issue.  On Ubuntu I get a 169.254.6.195 IP - not sure where that comes from?  Help on how to debug it...
[13:00] <tla> ...appreciated.  See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59814/
[13:00] <Psycoshot> "Some Linux operating system even can auto-mount the USB drives, especially if you’re using Gnome and KDE." T.T WHY!?!?!
[13:00] <stefano> gvsa123, ftp is not very secure (neither is samba), if you want to use something different, you can use scp (which is file transfer over ssh)
[13:01] <stefano> Psycoshot, old document :-)
[13:01] <gvsa123> stefano: security isn't really an issue as far my setup is concerned... i connect them via crossover cables...
[13:02] <salge> hello erbody. can somebody tell me which file to modify to specify to X which video driver to use (i am currently root on recovery command line)
[13:02] <stefano> gvsa123, samba is sadly the easiest way to do it
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> salge, /etc/X22/xorg.conf
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> X11
[13:02] <gvsa123> stefano: tried to use openssh on linux and a client on xp, but the transfer is too slow... iguess because of the encryption along the way
[13:02] <erUSUL> salge: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[13:02] <stefano> salge, be careful
[13:02] <aspire_> stefano: are you trying to make a point?
[13:03] <netdur> it is safe to do "apt-get update" on hardy now?
[13:03] <gvsa123> stefano: hmmm.... i guess i'm stuck with my old way of doing it then.... <apt-get installs samba>
[13:03] <salge> erUSUL, let me try, stefano, what's up?
[13:03] <sdf2> When I install ubuntu, does it wipe out my home directory?
[13:03] <stefano> aspire_, about what?
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> salge, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   if you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max rex.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[13:04] <stefano> salge, i just mean it is really easy to mess things up badly when modifying the xorg.conf, nothing more
[13:04] <tekteen> sdf2: yes
[13:04] <sdf2> damnit
[13:04] <salge> o ok
[13:05] <salge> erUSUL, this looks like a nifty tool, it even made a backup for me, thanks!
[13:05] <tla> Radar: any ideas?
[13:05] <tekteen> sdf2: unless you have it on a separate partition
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sdf2, That is why we recommend /home on a second partition
[13:05] <bluecake> anyone using bitvise?
[13:06] <DIL> backing up is a fundamental thing to do before you make changes $0.02
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sdf2, use livecd and copy /home to a usb or another partition
[13:06] <Radar> tla: nup
[13:06] <Ax-Ax> How do I type ³?
[13:07] <sdf2> argh, I don't have any spare partitions
[13:08] <DIL> Ax-Ax: probably special character in open office - what application
[13:09] <IsotropicSpin> hey, how do i connect to my Internet server with remote desktop?
[13:09] <heogen> hi somebody know how can to connect my pc to tv
[13:09] <Ax-Ax> DIL: xchat
[13:09] <sdf2> Plus my home directory is 27 gigs
[13:09] <tekteen> sdf2: is it on a separate partition?
[13:09] <sdf2> no
[13:10] <heogen> how to step i should to fallow for connect my pc to tv?
[13:10] <tekteen> you need to find a place to put it. sorry
[13:10] <IsotropicSpin> heogen, do you have a TV card? if not then you can't do it
[13:10] <heogen> yeah
[13:10] <Fallenou> hi, where are the "hardware testing" report sent to in the launchpad web site ?
[13:10] <bluecake> which run level should i execute rdesktop? i don't want to start gnome at all.
[13:10] <heogen> Isotropicspin yeah
[13:10] <Fallenou> i wanna see the result of my report
[13:11] <IsotropicSpin> heogen, ok then just checking , i have no idea , does anyone else know?
[13:11] <jrib> heogen: tell the room the type of card you have
[13:11] <heogen> IsotropicSpin ok
[13:11] <heogen> Jrib how you doing?  ok let me looking for my card name
[13:12] <IsotropicSpin> DOES anyone know how I could connect to my internet server (also running Ubuntu 7.1) using remote desktop?
[13:12] <jrib> heogen: I'm good, you?
[13:12] <heogen> Jrib im fine man
[13:12] <cute> j
[13:12] <cute> hai.. ikutan dong...
[13:12] <Da_Putzler> has anyone installed Sun Java 1.6.0_05 and got it working as default Java on their System and in Firefox ???
[13:13] <jrib> Da_Putzler: why do you not want to use the version in the repositories?
[13:14] <Da_Putzler> usually I would, but I like keeping my system up-to-date, and the repo's are too slow for this
[13:14] <jrib> Da_Putzler: what is the reason for being "up-to-date"?
[13:14] <jabalsad> Hi, I used to have a boot loader that gave me the option to choose between Ubuntu and XP upon startup. I formatted the XP partition and installed Vista, but now there is no bootloader anymore :( How do I get it back?
[13:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> 6.0.05 is really not at many different than 6.0.04
[13:15] <Da_Putzler> bug fixes, java crashing on certain apps...  I have Opera using the latest without a problem, it;s just Firefox that's being a pain
[13:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Da_Putzler, Fine line between up to date. and safe tested programs
[13:16] <Ace2016> Whats the command to start gnome's network manager?
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub | jabalsad
[13:16] <ubotu> jabalsad: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:16] <jabalsad> ta
[13:16] <jrib> Da_Putzler: realize that at least all of the security fixes are (supposed to be) taken care of with updates from the repos
[13:16] <casper72> hello
[13:16] <casper72> !list
[13:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:16] <Da_Putzler> I take it once the latest version of Java has been tested, it'll appear in the repo's ??
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace2016, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start    ?
[13:18] <Ace2016> start gdm? why?
[13:18] <heogen> Jrib I dont remember how i see my card of the tv in my laptop
[13:19] <davedorm> yo yo yo
[13:19] <gvsa123> what does chmod a+x mean again?
[13:19] <heogen> jrib what command can i use for?
[13:19] <jrib> heogen: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Da_Putzler, I assume the focus is on the release in just a couple weeks and not on testing a minor jave update (since most people are not effected)  after that I am sure it will get put into Gutsyrepos.. But if you want up to date you will probably move to Hardy which would have it anyhow
[13:19] <heogen> jrib thank you
[13:19] <jrib> gvsa123: adds +x (execute) permissions for all (user, group, and others)
[13:19] <IsotropicSpin> Does anyone know how to UnRar something?!?! do i need the package Unrar-free?
[13:19] <davedorm> I am not a n00b but i made a stupid n00b mistake... I have forgotten my root password for an Ubuntu Server 7.10 I installed last night
[13:20] <jrib> !unrar > IsotropicSpin (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:20] <Ace2016> jrib: but what is the a for? all?
[13:20] <davedorm> I changed it and FORGOT it
[13:20] <jrib> Ace2016: yes
[13:20] <Ace2016> thanks
[13:20] <davedorm> is there any way short of reinstalling to get in?
[13:20] <Ace2016> davedorm: reinstall it
[13:20] <jrib> !root | davedorm
[13:20] <ubotu> davedorm: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:20] <gvsa123> jrib: what if you only want specific people to have that permission?
[13:20] <jrib> davedorm: there is no root password
[13:20] <Da_Putzler> I tried updating to Hardy, but after downloading all the new repo's it failed to install giving an error...
[13:20] <davedorm> yes there is
[13:20] <davedorm> I made one
[13:20] <Ace2016> sudo passwd root, and change it? is that possible?
[13:20] <davedorm> <- not a n00b
[13:20] <jrib> !enter | davedorm
[13:20] <ubotu> davedorm: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> davedorm, You cant recover ti.. you can only change it (physical access to the box etc)
[13:20] <davedorm> no, there is no sudoer group set up
[13:21] <Ace2016> lol
[13:21] <davedorm> Jack_Sparrow: fair enough
[13:21] <davedorm> I am sitting right in front of it
[13:21] <Ace2016> livecd modify configs to add sudoers?
[13:21] <jrib> davedorm: reboot, edit the grub line and append "init=/bin/sh" or boot a live cd and chroot to your installation
[13:21] <davedorm> Ace2016: it wasa server install, not a livecd
[13:21] <Ace2016> well download and boot a live cd
[13:21] <davedorm> jrib: cool.. stand by
[13:21] <Ace2016> doesn't sound worth it though
[13:21] <DOOM_NX> when i change the .asoundrc are the changes applied immediately?
[13:22] <Ace2016> no
[13:22] <gvsa123> i get this 17 Mar 05:17:58 ntpdate[7460]: no server suitable for synchronization found when doing sudo ntpdate -u ntp.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <minimec> Da_Putzler: Do you have enough free diskspace?
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> what do i have to do?
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> restart X?
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX, I would think that would require restarting x
[13:22] <Ace2016> DOOM_NX: logout and login for changes to take effec
[13:22] <Ace2016> t
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> thank u
[13:23] <heogen> Jrib my laptop has  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[13:23] <Ace2016> might need a reboot though
[13:23] <Fallenou> hi, where are the "hardware testing" report sent to in the launchpad web site ? i wanna see my own report :o
[13:23] <jrib> heogen: no idea about those cards
[13:23] <Da_Putzler> oh yeah... got a 30gb filesystem
[13:23] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to install needed restricted drivers from the command line? Thanks!
[13:23] <Da_Putzler> no idea why it didnt upgrade... might try it again, but scared it'll do the same thing
[13:23] <heogen> jrib for example in windows i connect my pc to tv
[13:24] <heogen> jrib in ubuntu can i to connect with a key or a normal step in the system?
[13:25] <jrib> heogen: for nvidia cards you must edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or use the nvidia-settings tool, that's all I know about it
[13:25] <heogen> jrib or is different the connection depend of the card
[13:26] <DOOM_NX> changes in .asoundrc don't seem to have effect
[13:26] <heogen> jrib ok thank you
[13:27] <omar> How can I view the source code for Ubuntu?
[13:28] <jrib> !source > omar (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:29] <vatzec> hey there lads, I have a server which I administrate via SSH but the pain is that it's connected via wireless so connection drops occur from time to time, I'm trying to make it perform a check every 5 mins, I've already posted a thread at the Ubuntu forums, but it seems that any topic older than 10 mins with no replies is forgotten (the amount of messages posted it overwhelming), here's the thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725364
[13:29] <Kynlem> Is there a way to assign a background to a particular desktop in Gnome?
[13:29] <jrib> Kynlem: if you use compiz-fusion, it's an option for the cube.  If you don't, check out "wallpapoz" (google it)
[13:30] <VentusIgnis> How can I reset my video driver back to vesa?  I installed the wrong driver and now the GUI is useless.
[13:30] <jrib> !xconfig > VentusIgnis (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:30] <jrib> VentusIgnis: what driver are you trying to install by the way?
[13:31] <freeman163> is there a way to burn a large  iso ile to multiple dvd's?
[13:32] <minimec> VentusIgnis: <ctrl>alt><F1> --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you a 'console-configuration-wizard'.
[13:32] <davedorm> yeah
[13:32] <vatzec> freeman163: I believe that you have to split the files into multiple dirs and then burn 'em
[13:32] <davedorm> that did not work as planned
[13:32] <patrickStarFish> is osp.ir good?
[13:32] <freeman163> hmm, ok.
[13:32] <ibbuntu> I couldn't boot the gutsy live CD yesterday, so I downloaded Hardy Alpha 6. This still wouldn't boot, so I used the boot options - noapic acpi=off and it booted, but the screen has scrolling blocks of horizontal lines all over it. The computer has a unichrome graphics driver. What should I do next?
[13:32] <davedorm> ok, so I booted to a livecd
[13:32] <vatzec> I might be wrong though
[13:32] <jrib> davedorm: keep what you say on one line please
[13:33] <davedorm> but it does not see the installation
[13:33] <VentusIgnis> thanks
[13:33] <jrib> davedorm: you need to mount the partition your installation is on.  Was the device your partition is on not listed in 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[13:33] <patrickStarFish> what's the alternative for sourceForge? for open source project hosting
[13:34] <davedorm> lemme look... please stand by
[13:34] <jrib> patrickStarFish: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:34] <patrickStarFish> sorry
[13:34] <patrickStarFish> jrib, any channel for me?
[13:34] <jrib> patrickStarFish: #ubuntu-offtopic is a channel, you are welcomed there
[13:35] <[manas]> need help whit grub!!
[13:35] <giovanni> buon giorno atutti
[13:35] <jrib> !it | giovanni
[13:35] <ubotu> giovanni: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:35] <patrickStarFish> jrib, ohh thanx
[13:36] <[manas]> !grub
[13:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:38] <davedorm> jrib:  ok, I think I have it, I tried mounting the drive, and running chroot, but it still did not seem to work right... wonder what I am doing wrong?
[13:39] <jrib> davedorm: pastebin exactly what you type and the output
[13:39] <davedorm> I can't
[13:39] <davedorm> it's on a KVM
[13:39] <davedorm> can't paste from the other box
[13:40] <jrib> davedorm: retype it, it should only be a few lines
[13:40] <Sybux> hi all
[13:40] <davedorm> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 (I made the dir first)
[13:40] <notoothilmak> hi everyone
[13:40] <davedorm> then sudo chroot /media/sda1
[13:41] <davedorm> and it looked like it worked but nothing changed
[13:41] <Sybux> I'm getting issue with duplex mode of my ethernet card. Can some help me to force it to full
[13:41] <robboplus> dear folks
[13:41] <jrib> davedorm: now run 'sudo passwd root'
[13:41] <robboplus> is there a way to omit a connection limit of 1000 in ubuntu?
[13:42] <robboplus> it seems to be 1000 or 1024
[13:42] <robboplus> ulimit says unlimited though
[13:42] <crdlb> robboplus: there is no limit
[13:42] <crdlb> err
[13:42] <davedorm> ok, did that, rebooting back into my installation, stand by for results
[13:42] <crdlb> robboplus: nm, I misread your question :)
[13:42] <robboplus> crdlb ok :)
[13:43] <jrib> davedorm: yeah, I guess the "sudo" wasn't needed there since you were root
[13:43] <Ashex> !vmware > me
[13:44] <Sybux> !duplex > me
[13:44] <jrib> !msgthebot | Ashex, Sybux
[13:44] <ubotu> Ashex, Sybux: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:44] <minimec> Sybux: That could be difficult. I had such kind of problems years ago with old ISA cards. There was only a DOS-tool to configure these cards. I had to boot a basic DOS with a floppy disk.
[13:44] <n2diy> I bought 10 SD cards, 8 of them work in my camera, and I can read/copy them to my Dapper box. The other 2 work in the camera, but Dapper says they aren't initialized? They are all Sandisk 32m cards.
[13:44] <davedorm> very cool, I am in
[13:44] <davedorm> thanks, gents
[13:45] <Sybux> minimec: it's seems that the problem is link to ubuntu as I can see in the dmesg log
[13:45] <jetscreamer> initialized is where you write a signature to the partition or disk, iirc
[13:45] <minimec> Sybux: Can you 'pastebin' us your dmesg output?
[13:45] <IsotropicSpin> Does it usually take years to extract a multithreaded .rar using archive manager?
[13:45] <jetscreamer> see what fdisk can do for you
[13:46] <jetscreamer> if anything
[13:46] <IsotropicSpin> is there a faster program?
[13:46] <jrib> IsotropicSpin: it does not usually take years, but it can be a few minutes depending on the file
[13:46] <Sybux> minimec : you can have a look here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59815/
[13:48] <cannon> i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[13:49] <LollinopiL> uòòòòòò
[13:49] <LollinopiL> ubuntu is great
[13:49] <minimec> Sybux: I can't really help you but I see that the 'tulip-driver' had some bugs the last years...
[13:50] <cannon> can ya help me pls minimec?
[13:50] <GuiPoli> guys, I'm running ubuntu from live CD, and every time I want to run it, I have to reinstall a few programs I use.
[13:50] <GuiPoli> a couple of days ago I read something about installing them into a pen-drive, so I could run it even using live CD.
[13:50] <GuiPoli> what happens is that I can't remember where I read that. do you have any info about it?
[13:50] <jrib> !enter | GuiPoli
[13:50] <ubotu> GuiPoli: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:50] <jrib> !install > guipoli (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:50] <minimec> cannon: help with what?
[13:50] <cannon> i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[13:50] <jrib> GuiPoli: if there is nothing there, google "pen drive linux"
[13:50] <Sybux> minimec : ok you think (at a good sence) that the best choice I got it to change my ethernet card. I will have a look at my garage !
[13:52] <minimec> Sybux: That would be the easiest thing...
[13:52] <R3belS> When go out ubuntu 8.04 ?
[13:53] <GuiPoli> jrib, I tried google, with no success
[13:53] <Dedeee> whats the name of the panel app that show battery status, network status and so on?
[13:53] <R3belS> When go out Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[13:53] <R3belS> ??
[13:53] <GuiPoli> and I don't want to install linux in my pendrive, I want to store my programs and settings on it
[13:53] <Dedeee> april 17th isnt it?
[13:53] <DIL> 4=april 8=2008
[13:54] <R3belS> the 4 april 2008
[13:54] <R3belS> go out the new ubuntu ?
[13:54] <minimec> cannon: Found your question. Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base' in a terminal
[13:55] <cannon> ta
[13:55] <cannon> what next?
[13:56] <cannon> ya think i need a reboot minimec?
[13:58] <minimec> cannon: No reboot normally
[13:58] <cannon> in that case it;s still not working
[13:59] <minimec> cannon: After you configured alsa open gstreamer-properties and try to play around in the audio section.
[13:59] <cannon> k
[13:59] <jetscreamer> [07.59.24] <dpkg> from memory, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the 'audio' group (log out and log again in) 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss  8) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root?
[13:59] <heogen> Hi I cant to connect my laptop to tv how can do it? my card is ProSavage8 KM266/KL266
[13:59] <cannon> not installed, lol
[14:00] <filc> I'm not able to play  DVDs in ubuntu.... can anybody help me please?
[14:00] <jetscreamer> apt-get install xine-ui &&b xine-check
[14:00] <jetscreamer> for dvd goodness
[14:00] <hani_555> j\ linuxac
[14:00] <jetscreamer> err
[14:00] <jetscreamer> apt-get install xine-ui && xine-check
[14:00] <jetscreamer> - the b
[14:01] <tekteen> !dvd|filc
[14:01] <ubotu> filc: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:01] <tekteen> filc: I suggest you use the medibuntu repo
[14:01] <tekteen> !medibuntu > flic
[14:02] <IsotropicSpin> does anyone know why I can't open .iso images?
[14:02] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: what do you mean "open"? Do you want to mount it? burn it?
[14:02] <IsotropicSpin> Either! It won't open to burn or to mount using archive manager
[14:03] <Swany1234> i'm having a nightmare trying to configure my x600 ati card to duel display to my lcd monitor, and tv
[14:03] <Swany1234> can anyone help me?
[14:03] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen i get the message CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[14:03] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen i can't mount or burn
[14:03] <giovanni> ciao a tutti
[14:03] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: you can still burn it
[14:04] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen how?
[14:04] <seedingsandy> hello
[14:04] <hani_555> \j linuxAC
[14:04] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: open a terminal and type sudo aptitude install cdrecord
[14:04] <sandy> i need some help with xchat
[14:04] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: then run cdrecord <ISO FILE>
[14:05] <jetscreamer> try running file on your .iso and see what's inside of it
[14:05] <filc> ubotu: Thanks & to everyone else
[14:05] <jetscreamer> what type it is
[14:05] <sandy> im trying to join a channel in another irc but i just cant seem to put the keyword in the right place
[14:05] <tekteen> ubotu is a bot
[14:05] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[14:05] <tekteen> filc: ^
[14:05] <ricanelite> when i try to a paritial update of ubuntu im getting a error message saying it cannot find automatix respo
[14:06] <jetscreamer> sandy: first you join the network, /server irc.whatever.org then you /join #something
[14:06] <jetscreamer> in that /server's new windows
[14:06] <sandy> yeah but for the channel where does the keyword go?
[14:06] <jetscreamer> you would type /join #whatever in the new windows /server make
[14:07] <DIL> same place where you are typing will work
[14:07] <jetscreamer> window...
[14:07] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen.......... thanks alot!
[14:07] <jetscreamer> no it won't work in 'this' place
[14:07] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: np
[14:07] <ricanelite> how do i edit my respo on gedit?
[14:07] <jetscreamer> respo? ok
[14:07] <tekteen> !repo | ricanelite
[14:07] <ubotu> ricanelite: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[14:07] <DIL>  /join #mysql
[14:07] <jetscreamer> /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:08] <Swany1234> i'm having trouble configuring my ati x600 to duel display on my lcd monitor and tv can someone help me?
[14:08] <demonfoxkiller> how do you run a command as a super user?
[14:08] <jetscreamer> put sudo in front
[14:08] <tekteen> demonfoxkiller: then type in your password
[14:08] <jetscreamer> or edit sudoers....
[14:08] <demonfoxkiller> thanks
[14:08] <DIL>  /join #mysql connect to mysql irc
[14:08] <BobSlob> Swany1234: cant do it via the ati control panel?
[14:08] <cannon> i can't play music because I get "Mixer cannot be found" ... how can I fix it?
[14:09] <minimec> Swany1234: I guess you work with the restricted driver for your x600. Try to use the Configuration GUI of your 'fglrx' driver
[14:09] <jimmygoon> Where do I edit the gtk to shrink the height of my menu items?
[14:09] <Swany1234> BobSlob mimimec: i've tried the configuration but it wont let me configure the tv out
[14:10] <BobSlob> Swany1234: i'm still a newb... but all i did was plug both in =P
[14:10] <BobSlob> used envy to install the drivers
[14:10] <minimec> cannon: Do you still have the same problem? No success with gstreamer-properties?
[14:10] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen the CD i just burnt now says "Invalid mount volumne" when I try to insert it in the drive
[14:10] <cannon> nup
[14:11] <Swany1234> i did but envy doesn't fix it
[14:11] <cannon> i get errors with that app minimec
[14:11] <minimec> cannon: What errors?
[14:11] <cannon> when i load it through terminal it tells me about 10 plugins are missing
[14:11] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: what does file <ISO FILE> say
[14:11] <cannon> then if I click test in the app I also get an error
[14:11] <cannon> could not open resource for writing
[14:12] <crimsun> cannon: download http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh and run it in a terminal
[14:12] <cannon> k
[14:12] <minimec> cannon: Are you using a standard ubuntu install?
[14:12] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: run file <ISO FILE> in the terminal
[14:12] <cannon> kubuntu 7.10
[14:12] <Fireball> what should I use for a server - 6.06 LTS, or newest 7.10 (but not LTS) ?
[14:12] <tekteen> Fireball: depends on what you want
[14:13] <Fireball> what LTS does *not* give to me?
[14:13] <tekteen> Fireball: I would suggest waiting for Hardy which is LTS
[14:13] <minimec> cannon: Ahh ;) I cannot help you with kubuntu. Gstreamer is the gnome sound server. I think you can use it in kde too. You have to find a KDE-user ...
[14:13] <Fireball> will I be able to somehow seemlessly upgrade to Hardy from Dapper?
[14:13] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen whats the command I enter before the file name to do that?
[14:14] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: file
[14:14] <cannon> k, thanks for helping though
[14:14] <cannon> i've been asking in #kubuntu but nobody is responding to me
[14:14] <minimec> cannon: Can you do 'lspci | grep -i audio' in a console and 'pastebin' the result?
[14:14] <cannon> i can type it here
[14:14] <cannon> it's only one line :)
[14:14] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen response was "data"
[14:14] <minimec> cannon: Just do it ;)
[14:15] <Rprp> Does someone know how i can stream my 'desktop' to ustream.tv? (Something like WebCamMax (Windowze >.>)
[14:15] <legend2440> cannon:  http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/
[14:15] <cannon> 00:0f.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[14:16] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen: still getting problem when I insert cd "Invalid Mount Volumne"
[14:16] <Fireball> thanks, I think I found all answers to my questions
[14:16] <cannon> did ya see it minimec?
[14:16] <minimec> cannon: nope ...
[14:16] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: in the terminal type mkdir /mnt/tmp
[14:17] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: then type sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/tmp
[14:17] <crimsun> cannon: did you run the script?
[14:18] <Pirate_Hunter> i need some advice, my sdb1 doesnt get picked up by bios most of the times but i can still use it in ubuntu (only when it decides to show), is there a way for me to fix this as i think it also forces the hd to grind and overheat?
[14:18] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: also what is this iso?
[14:18] <cannon> what script crimsun?
[14:19] <cannon> 00:0f.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2) @ minimec
[14:19] <crimsun> cannon: in the URL I gave you
[14:19] <archman> how to resize icons?
[14:19] <cannon> oops, must have missed it
[14:19] <archman> on desktop
[14:19] <minimec> cannon: OK. legend2440 posted you a link... have a look at that http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/
[14:20] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: are you there?
[14:21] <jimmygoon> Is there a reason ubuntu devs don't choose to set a smaller menu item height in the gtk+ settings... It's really annoying and combined with the abundance of "Preferences" leads to my menu being off the screen :(
[14:21] <Pirate_Hunter> i need some advice, my sdb1 doesnt get picked up by bios most of the times but i can still use it in ubuntu (only when it decides to show), is there a way for me to fix this as i think it also forces the hd to grind and overheat?
[14:22] <anton55> change your screen resolution
[14:22] <jimmygoon> Pirate_Hunter, you need to replace that HD asap. back up your data
[14:22] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen
[14:22] <echo_mirage> How to prevent that a desktop-theme overrides all font-colors and background-colors in OpenOffice?
[14:22] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen yes
[14:22] <Jakoo> can someone tell me how to set correctly the sources code?
[14:22] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen sorry fat fingers..... eventually got "You must specify the filesystem type"
[14:22] <jimmygoon> Jakoo, what?
[14:23] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: where did you get this iso?
[14:23] <Jakoo> the bow to set the updates sources
[14:23] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen .... internet
[14:23] <Jakoo> box*
[14:23] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: WHAT IS IT?
[14:23] <tekteen> what website?
[14:23] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen.... multiple Rar's
[14:23] <tekteen> ?
[14:23] <legend2440> cannon:  go to system>administration>users and groups and under properties for your user name make sure user priveleges the use audio devices box is checked
[14:24] <Jakoo> sofatwares sources
[14:24] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: give me a link to the site you got it from
[14:24] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen..... an application I use alot have a license for in my workplace, but not at home, and want to have a copy of it at home.
[14:24] <cannon> brb, reboot time
[14:24] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen.... i am using it outside a license. do you care?
[14:24] <tekteen> nope
[14:25] <minimec> Jakoo: We do nor understand what you are talking about.. I guess you speak about the software repos. do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or open the preferences in synaptic
[14:25] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: this is an iso?
[14:25] <quaal> how do i get ubuntu to forget the last cd that was in the drive.
[14:25] <Jakoo> i just would like top know how to set correctly the softwares source
[14:25] <Jakoo> know
[14:25] <minimec> Jakoo: We do nor understand what you are talking about.. I guess you speak about the software repos. do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or open the preferences in synaptic
[14:26] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen sent private messagre
[14:26] <dgjones> !sources | Jakoo
[14:26] <ubotu> Jakoo: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[14:26] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: I did not get a private message
[14:26] <Jakoo> rces updatesi mean the box where you tick the softwares sources updates
[14:26] <quaal> how do i get ubuntu to forget the last cd that was in the drive. it continues to think that the cd that was in the drive 2 days ago is still there. it will not let me burn discs because of this
[14:26] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: are you registered
[14:26] <tekteen> ?
[14:27] <tekteen> !register|IsotropicSpin
[14:27] <ubotu> IsotropicSpin: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[14:27] <Jakoo> how top get properly the updates
[14:27] <IsotropicSpin> tekten send text
[14:28] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[14:28] <minimec> !repos > Jakoo
[14:29] <Jakoo> thank you
[14:29] <minimec> Jakoo: np
[14:29] <anton55> try unmounting and remounting cdrom
[14:29] <tekteen> IsotropicSpin: you need to register
[14:29] <archangelpetro> anyone know the package that includes the OIS namespace (for ogred3d)???
[14:29] <IsotropicSpin> tekteen will do now
[14:31] <MAXDDARK> anyone has experience with bugzilla ?
[14:31] <kris_ph> anybody here where can I locate favicon in webmin?
[14:31] <kris_ph> *knows...
[14:33] <riba1> internet slowed down ..used to be faster in firefox and opera
[14:33] <riba1> cache is oanly about 5o mb on both
[14:33] <Bad_boy> HI guys, I have a problem. My automatic updates ain't working, always failure to install. I used to package manager too, it is saying failure to install
[14:34] <waylandbill> how does one erase a cd-rw?
[14:34] <riba1> waylandbill: open the cd and delete the files I think
[14:34] <unenough> how do i find out the license of a package?
[14:35] <anton55> what cd burning tool are you using
[14:35] <waylandbill> anton55: nautilus?
[14:36] <minimec> Bad_boy: 'sudo apt-get update' -> 'sudo apt-get upgrade' in a terminal. If apt-get fails, it probably gives you a solution also... Let's see.
[14:36] <InspectorCluseau> does ubuntu have k3b?
[14:36] <anton55> try right clicking the icon if it on desktop or use like k3b or gnomebaker cd creating tool
[14:37] <waylandbill> InspectorCluseau: no. kubuntu has k3b.
[14:37] <kris_ph> ows.. I can't really find the favicon
[14:37] <InspectorCluseau> oh...yeah....
[14:37] <Bad_boy> minimec: thanks : here the result Reading package lists... Done
[14:37] <Bad_boy> Building dependency tree
[14:37] <Bad_boy> Reading state information... Done
[14:37] <Bad_boy> The following packages will be upgraded:
[14:37] <Bad_boy>   language-pack-en language-pack-gnome-en
[14:37] <Bad_boy> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:37] <FloodBot1> Bad_boy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <Bad_boy> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:37] <anton55> k3b can be installed on ubuntu via sym pak man
[14:37] <kristopher> I need to back up my system that has some pretty large files on it.  Is there any program that will split 2 Gig files into easily burnable 700mb files?
[14:38] <kristopher> or anything thatĺl fit on a cd for that matter.
[14:38] <waylandbill> anton55: sure it can, but I can't imagine ubuntu doesn't have a means without needing additional software.
[14:39] <minimec> Bad_boy: Looks that you have a running apt-get or synaptic process... Kill that process or restart your machine.
[14:40] <Bad_boy> minimec: shall restart see you in a sec
[14:40] <minimec> Bad_boy: ok
[14:40] <kristopher> Sorta like the way rar splits it into 8mb chunks
[14:41] <robertchahine> is there matlab for ubuntu?
[14:41] <_zed> is anyone else having problems with the deskbar-applet on gutsy
[14:41] <quaal> how do i get ubuntu to forget the last cd that was in the drive. it continues to think that the cd that was in the drive 2 days ago is still there. it will not let me burn discs because of this
[14:42] <kristopher> quall did you umount it properly? if so, swearing normally helps
[14:42] <_zed> the deskbar-applet keeps crashing on me, and I can't compile a newer version because it asks for dependencies i know i have.
[14:42] <mitch_> Hey I'm running a mbp and useing madwifi for my wireless card (airport extrerem a/b/g) and i can see wireless networks but for the life of me I can not get an ip. Some help would be great!
[14:44] <riba1> mitch: sometimes u have to specify the SSID, channel and make
[14:44] <sixpence> What command can I run to see what flavor of Ubnuntu is running on the machine I am currently on?
[14:44] <riba1> sure suthentication is not set worng in the default
[14:45] <brobostigon> sixpence: lsb_release
[14:45] <tekteen> sixpence: uname -a
[14:45] <Bad_boy> minimec: got this result : dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 22910 package `gthumb':
[14:45] <Bad_boy>  `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[14:45] <Bad_boy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:45] <dkd903> mitch_ laptop make n model?
[14:45] <brobostigon> tekteen: uname will only show the kernel version, not the ubuntu version
[14:45] <mitch_> macbook pro
[14:45] <waylandbill> I guess "cdrecord blank=all" would do it.
[14:45] <tekteen> brobostigon: ok
[14:46] <riba1> brobostigon: then he can match the kernel to the distro v :)
[14:46] <brobostigon> riba1: lsb_release will do that.
[14:46] <tekteen> I just look in sources.list
[14:46] <riba1> ok, disabled all ipv6 to see if my internet is a little faster
[14:47] <riba1> remember that it used to fly
[14:47] <minimec> Bad_boy: Oups... There is a problem with the gthumb package. Are you on 'gutsy' or 'hardy'?
[14:47] <minimec> !pastebin > Bad_boy
[14:47] <Bad_boy> minimec: GUTSY 64
[14:47] <mitch_> dkd903 do you have any ideas
[14:47] <riba1> thing I don't get is that sidux has ipv6 enabled and it's faster
[14:48] <riba1> I mean, internet is
[14:48] <dagnachew> hi all
[14:48] <dagnachew>  I have file1.mkv file2.mkv file3.mkv .... and I want to join them to have just one file.mkv how can I do it ?
[14:48] <Bad_boy> minimec: !pastebin, what's this
[14:49] <anton55> copy and paste 2 and 3 into 1?
[14:49] <brobostigon> !pastebin | Bad_boy
[14:49] <ubotu> Bad_boy: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:49] <dkd903> mitch_: sorry man, no ideas about macbook, i mean i hv worked on a macbook before but never tried a linux distro on it
[14:49] <tekteen> dagnachew: I think the program mkvmerge does that
[14:49] <tekteen> dagnachew: it comes with a gui too!
[14:49] <minimec> Bad_boy: pastebin allows you to paste command results or so without pasting evrythung in the chat #channel. Not evryone wants to read your 'apt-get problems ;)
[14:49] <Bad_boy> sorry chaps, i did not know about pastebin
[14:50] <robertchahine> does anybody have matlab working on ubuntu?
[14:50] <mitch_> what would you do if it was another kind of laptop
[14:50] <dagnachew> tekteen, mmg right
[14:50] <dagnachew> ?
[14:50] <mitch_> dhclient gives me something about sleeping
[14:50] <tekteen> dagnachew: mmg?
[14:50] <tekteen> dagnachew: what does that mean
[14:50] <minimec> Bad_boy: Did oyu try to uninstall gthumb gefore
[14:50] <dagnachew> the gui
[14:51] <brobostigon> mitch_: i have guutsy on my ibook g3, its powerpc, i believe the macbook is x86, so i could maybe help, but they r eboth very different.
[14:51] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install mkvtoolnix-gui
[14:51] <waylandbill> I guess it was just my fault. When you go to write anything new to the disc, it asks if you want to erase the disc. :-)
[14:51] <Grab> how can i know what is my crontab version ?
[14:52] <Bad_boy> minimec: did not, how do I install Gthumb again, I am a newbie
[14:52] <minimec> Bad_boy: I found something for you... Do 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update' in a terminal ... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10265
[14:53] <robertchahine> what is difference between octave and matlab?
[14:53] <robertchahine> what is difference between octave and matlab?
[14:53] <jrib> robertchahine: they are different programs.  For one, octave is open source
[14:53] <darksky0> I wish I knew :P
[14:53] <ltcabral> hey ppl... what do i need to change the theme of panel bars, gtk, emerald or what? i changed just the rest but cant change the panels
[14:54] <tekteen> robertchahine: octave is made to be the open source matlab
[14:54] <robertchahine> aha
[14:54] <yeahbuddy> I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now ubuntu doesn't show my 250 IDE drive that is plugged in as secondary master.  Any ideas?
[14:54] <jrib> robertchahine: http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/FAQ.html#MATLAB-compatibility
[14:54] <robertchahine> but is it fully similar to matlab?
[14:54] <Bad_boy> minimec:  smashing it work, now sudo apt-get upgrade work. cheers bud, and thanks for the pastebin
[14:54] <robertchahine> thank you jrib
 what type of wireless card is in yours
[14:54] <minimec> Bad_boy: np
[14:54] <robertchahine> but what matlab can do that octave can't?
[14:55] <robertchahine> but what matlab can do that octave can't?
[14:55] <quaal> how do i get ubuntu to forget the last cd that was in the drive. it continues to think that the cd that was in the drive 2 days ago is still there. it will not let me burn discs because of this
[14:56] <robertchahine> put again the cd in the drive
[14:56] <robertchahine> and unmounit sfaely or right click eject
[14:56] <archangelpetro> has anyone here successfully set up OGRE3d?
[14:57] <anton55> put that cd back in and unmount cdrom with it in maybe that'll help or reboot computer
[14:58] <anton55> you prob need to mount the 250 drive yeahbuddy
[14:59] <yeahbuddy> anton55: i have tried that.. the drive doesn't show up under hardware information
[14:59] <mitch_> brobostigon, do you use madwifi
[14:59] <anton55> does it show up in places/computer
[14:59] <brobostigon> mitch_: no
[15:00] <mitch_> Hey I'm running a mbp and useing madwifi for my wireless card (airport extrerem a/b/g) and i can see wireless networks but for the life of me I can not get an ip. Some help would be great!
[15:00] <yeahbuddy> but i can boot with the live cd of 7.04 and can mount the drive although it is device /dev/sdb1 intead of hdc1
[15:00] <yeahbuddy> anton55: no
[15:00] <SYNTAX> hello guiys
[15:00] <brobostigon> mitch_: mines a zd1211rw
[15:00] <SYNTAX> has anyone here tried out ELISA?
[15:00] <anton55> what is the drive formated as
[15:00] <yeahbuddy> ext3
[15:01] <minimec> SYNTAX: Well I had a look on it. Guess it is still 'apha' stage.
[15:01] <mitch_> brobostigon, how do you get wireless working?
[15:01] <minimec> SYNTAX: Looks promising
[15:01] <SYNTAX> it does
[15:01] <anton55> does it show up on nautilus in the /media folder or mnt folder
[15:01] <SYNTAX> have u installed it ?
[15:01] <SYNTAX> is it stable?
[15:01] <al_animator> asl?
[15:02] <brobostigon> mitch_: i put the network settings into /etc/network/interfaces, and then disables network mamager, then restarted /etc/init.d/network restart.
[15:02] <al_animator> do any girl wanna ONS weekend?
[15:02] <minimec> SYNTAX: deb http://elisa.fluendo.com/packages gutsy main
[15:02] <frold> SYNTAX: aint ELISA something you do in a lab.?
[15:02] <yeahbuddy> anton55: nope
[15:02] <SYNTAX> lol
[15:02] <SYNTAX> no its a media stage program for UBUNTU similiar to what is front end show in LEOPARD OSX
[15:03] <SYNTAX> im just waiting for it to get better..so then we all can enjoyr from it
[15:03] <anton55> did you try using gpart to see if it shows in there
[15:03] <yeahbuddy> anton55: the computer also has a sata pci card in it but the drive connected to it works fine.. i thought about putting it as primary slave
[15:03] <yeahbuddy> anton55: no
[15:03] <brobostigon> anton55: dont you mean gparted
[15:04] <anton55> yes i mean gparted sorry was just using gpart for short lol
[15:04] <yeahbuddy> anton55: it doesn't show with fdisk k-l
[15:04] <yeahbuddy> *fdisk -l
[15:04] <minimec> SYNTAX: I am just playing around with elisa right now. They are making fast progresses.
[15:04] <frold> I see SYNTAX I normal know ELISA as: Enzyme-Linked ImmunoSorbent Assay
[15:04] <SYNTAX> lol
[15:05] <SYNTAX> yes that is something for a medical lab
[15:05] <frold> right :D
[15:05] <SYNTAX> has it froze up on u lately?
[15:05] <minimec> SYNTAX: nope...
[15:05] <frold> whois SYNTAX
[15:05] <SYNTAX> have u ever heard of SYNTAX error?
[15:06] <yeahbuddy> anton55: i'm going to try it as primary slave.. brb
[15:07] <S4ud1-Linux> j #linuxac
[15:07] <quaal> i already have done that.
[15:08] <quaal> unmounted the cd
[15:08] <bazhang> quaal: what cd is it
[15:08] <quaal> and right click-ejected it
[15:08] <quaal> bazhang, rosetta stone
[15:08] <quaal> this shit is miserable
[15:08] <bazhang> quaal: and what program are you using to burn?
[15:09] <mitch_> anyone?
[15:09] <threeseas> need to change the root partition (also flaged as boot) but need to get space from an extended partition to do so. two partitions (logical drives?) are in the extended partition. I want to use the last to backup to. is this possible, or does changing the size of the extended partition screw up all its internal partition?
[15:09] <quaal> bazhang, trying to use the gnome burning utility
[15:09] <quaal> whatever its called
[15:09] <quaal> but its not just burning i cant do
[15:09] <quaal> cant look at any cd
[15:09] <bazhang> quaal: brasero? gnomebaker? which one
[15:09] <quaal> unless i put the rosetta cd in
[15:09] <SYNTAX> has snyone found a way to save the GRUB loader for ubuntu while reformatting windows??
[15:09] <quaal> bazhang, rightclick the image and write to disc
[15:10] <quaal> not sure what its called
[15:10] <bazhang> quaal: you have any others installed?
[15:10] <quaal> i have k3b
[15:10] <sk> !svn
[15:10] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[15:10] <SYNTAX> its annoying how windows installation CD actually overwrites the linux GRUB loader
[15:11] <bazhang> quaal: try loading k3b from the command line and post any errors you to pastebin
[15:11] <anton55> gotta put in windows then put ubuntu in windoes don't let ya keep anything but winblows
[15:11] <LjL> !language | quaal
[15:11] <ubotu> quaal: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:11] <LjL> !enter | quaal
[15:11] <ubotu> quaal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:11] <SYNTAX> yeap thas true
[15:11] <quaal> get over it
[15:11] <bazhang> SYNTAX: well that is why we advise to install xp first; there is a link to help with that if you wish
[15:11] <SYNTAX> its annoywing when you have to reformatt windows
[15:12] <Bad_boy> Guys, I have an external 2.5 drive nTFS with all mp3 on it, how can I read that usb external drive with ubuntu
[15:12] <SYNTAX> then you will loose the GRUB loader with linux already being there
[15:12] <jrib> !ntfs > Bad_boy (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:12] <SYNTAX> if you reformat ur windes soy good by to UBUNTU
[15:12] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: just plug it in, and it should automount.
[15:12] <SYNTAX> if you reformat your windows say good bye to UBUNTU
[15:12] <bazhang> SYNTAX: you want the link?
[15:12] <SYNTAX> yes please
[15:13] <ross`> excuse me, what packages do i need to "hack" wireless networks (WEP) (im not using this to hurt or comprimise any system)
[15:13] <jpatrick> ross`: nmap?
[15:13] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows SYNTAX
[15:13] <ross`> O.O
[15:13] <ross`> are you joking?
[15:13] <dako> I have a external harddrive that has a hidden trash folder, can I somehow link to it to empty trash or do I need to just empty it then empty regular trash?
[15:13] <ross`> nmap hacks wireless?
[15:13] <ross`> i had no idea
[15:13] <ross`> jpatrick: i thought nmap scanned for open ports on an ip..
[15:14] <jpatrick> ross`: to find ports ;)
[15:14] <quaal> bazhang, yea k3b seems to be working
[15:14] <quaal> so i'm pretty sure its a gnome failure
[15:14] <quaal> the cd's also show up in terminal
[15:14] <bazhang> quaal: ah okay then use that for now; have you checked launchpad for bugs related to rosetta stone and the situation you are facing?
[15:14] <ross`> jpatrick: im not trying to find open ports
[15:14] <quaal> oh, nope
[15:14] <quaal> it failed
[15:14] <jpatrick> ross`: no idea then
[15:14] <ross`> im trying to hack wireless
[15:15] <quaal> fatal error at startup device or resource busy
[15:15] <bazhang> ross`: we dont support that here
[15:15] <quaal> i really hate gnome
[15:15] <quaal> and nautilus
[15:15] <minimec> quaal: Thunar could be your friend ;)
[15:15] <kalleskaviar> ross`, tried kismet ?
[15:15] <yeahbuddy> anton55: i plugged it as primary slave and it gets seen however it is /dev/sdb   that just doesn't make any sense
[15:15] <bazhang> quaal: that is a shame; if you want help that is one thing--otherwise join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <KenSentMe> I want to do download a complete directory with command line ftp, but when i do get dirname i get Not a regular file. What am i doing wrong?
[15:15] <quaal> minimec, yea
[15:16] <ross`> kalleskaviar: what is kismet
[15:16] <quaal> been thinking about it
[15:16] <quaal> gnome/nautilus are such miserable failures
[15:16] <anton55> thats cause the 1st drive is /dev/sba
[15:16] <jimmygoon> Can someone please please please help me figure out how to reduce the height of my menu items :( this is very frustrating
[15:16] <quaal> i have to reboot so often because of them
[15:16] <kalleskaviar>  Kismet is a 802.11b wireless network sniffer.  It is capable of sniffing
[15:16] <kalleskaviar>  using almost any supported wireless card using the Airo, HostAP, Wlan-NG,
[15:16] <kalleskaviar>  and Orinoco (with a kernel patch) drivers
[15:16] <akumar__> anyone know how i can copy an 8gb disc?
[15:16] <minimec> quaal: I use thunar in a e17 environment and in gnome ...
[15:16] <akumar__> i have one dtive
[15:16] <quaal> this is the first time i'd have to actually reboot my server because of it though
[15:16] <kalleskaviar> Ehh sorry. that was supposed to be on one line.
[15:16] <ross`> kalleskaviar: um ok..?
[15:17] <ross`> how does it work
[15:17] <theunixgeek> How do I add a virtual hard drive in VMware server?
[15:17] <yeahbuddy> anton55: so gusty doesn't use /dev/hda for ide devices?
[15:17] <ross`> and can it crack weps fast?
[15:17] <akumar__> **drive
[15:17] <tbwnoob> how do i add the newest version of wine to my edubuntu
[15:17] <anton55> no it use sba sbb sbc
[15:17] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: ubuntu did not see it. So I am going thru mounting partition
[15:17] <danbhfive> tbwnoob: go to the wine website
[15:18] <tbwnoob> i thought i could type a command
[15:18] <tbwnoob> in console
[15:18] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: sorry, i forgot the problem??i fell asleep. i had a very bad night.
[15:18] <tbwnoob> i meant terminal
[15:18] <tbwnoob> is there a command i can just type
[15:18] <tbwnoob> and it will update
[15:19] <vatzec> well, wait
[15:19] <vatzec> [16:18] [freenode] Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
[15:19] <yeahbuddy> anton55: ok...  it still refuses to work hooked to my secondary controller though... i guess i'll just live with it
[15:19] <vatzec> [16:18] [freenode] DCC SEND from bleepdong [0.0.0.0 port 0]: LOLOLOL_RUINED_BY_R4L_ROROROROROROR [0B bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu
[15:19] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: the external hard drive NTFS with mp3 :)
[15:19] <LjL> vatzec: don't repeat that
[15:19] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[15:19] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[15:19] <vatzec> yeah
[15:19] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: does it not automount when you plug it in??
[15:19] <vatzec> oh, so he was kicked/banned?
[15:19] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: no it does
[15:19] <danbhfive> tbwnoob: do you know how to update your software in general?
[15:20] <anton55> if it's showing up then al you need is to monut it
[15:20] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: what does dmesg, lsusb, and df -h, say when its plugged in??
[15:20] <tbwnoob> sudo apt-get install wine
[15:20] <tbwnoob> maybe that
[15:20] <danbhfive> tbwnoob: that installs wine
[15:20] <minimec> Bad_boy: are the libntfs-3g12 and ...16 installed?
[15:21] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: don't have a clue, I am a newbie
[15:21] <Bad_boy> minimec:  don't know
[15:21] <tbwnoob> okay
[15:21] <tbwnoob> without dling it?
[15:21] <tbwnoob> i was told that would do it without dling it
[15:21] <Exaltia> I still search for something like krfb but working as soon as X start, for controling the current X session, not a new one
[15:22] <minimec> Bad_boy: 'sudo apt-get install libntfs-3g12 libntfs-3g16'
[15:22] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: run dmesg, then, lsusb, and then df -h,  and then pastebin the results,run those after you have plugged it in.
[15:22] <olejorgenb> what is the proper way of setting the gtk-theme if I'm not running gnome?
[15:22]  * encryptz is surprised that the dcc exploit is still an issue these days
[15:22] <danbhfive> tbwnoob: well, that would be incorrect.  apt-get downloads things if it needs to
[15:22] <Toshio> Q: Can anyone recommend a webcam that A) is very well supported in Linux and B) can be attached to the LCD display of a laptop?
[15:22] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: run those in terminal
[15:22] <olejorgenb> When I run gnome-theme-manager it changes the theme, but it's not permanent
[15:22] <tbwnoob> ok
[15:22] <minimec> Bad_boy: 'sudo apt-get install libntfs-3g12 libntfs-3g16 mtfs-3g'
[15:23] <bazhang> Toshio: you should really check out the webcam link
[15:23] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras Toshio
[15:23] <tbwnoob> should i install all of my updates
[15:23] <Toshio> ok, I'm on it
[15:23] <simion314> hi, i installed awn and it workrd fine, after reboot when i try to open it the properties window appears but not the awn itself, i tried to reinstall but is the same, maybe i did  something?
[15:23] <tbwnoob> i have 188
[15:24] <danbhfive> tbwnoob: in general, yes
[15:24] <tbwnoob> okay
[15:26] <IRC-Ubuntusiano> alguien tiene el rt73?
[15:26] <IRC-Ubuntusiano> en gipsy gibbon
[15:26] <LjL> !es | IRC-Ubuntusiano
[15:26] <ubotu> IRC-Ubuntusiano: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:27] <IRC-Ubuntusiano> ok
[15:28] <n2diy> I bought 10 SD cards, 8 of them work in my camera, and I can read/copy them to my Dapper box. The other 2 work in the camera, but Dapper says they aren't initialized? They are all Sandisk 32m cards.
[15:28] <amenado> n2diy-> 32m as in 32 megs?
[15:28] <tbwnoob> my cpmputer just shut down in the middle up updates last night
[15:28] <tbwnoob> i wastnt there
[15:28] <tbwnoob> i was eating dinner i came back
[15:28] <n2diy> amenado: yes
[15:28] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59823/
[15:28] <tbwnoob> and it was shut down
[15:29] <tbwnoob> is there some hibernate or turn off controll
[15:29] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, I'd like to sync my Nokia 6610 cellphone with Evolution, I googled all nite long, I tried a good part of the mornig, but no luck, I did not succeed
[15:29] <Bad_boy> minimec: Couldn't find package libntfs-3g16
[15:30] <amenado> tbwnoob-> noacpi  acpi=off  during boot
[15:30] <soulc> so I moved my mouse to deactivate the screen-saver and when the desktop refreshed no eyecandy........
[15:30] <tbwnoob> how do i do that during boot
[15:30] <tbwnoob> when glob is loading
[15:30] <minimec> Bad_boy: 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g' That should do it probably.
[15:31] <azuki> hi all
[15:31] <tbwnoob> should i use my ati card in edubunto?
[15:32] <azuki> I am trying to work in MilkyTracker... yet, linux doesn't let milkeytracker override the ALT-F4 and f5 buttons.. is there a way to let it do that?
[15:32] <azuki> or is there another FT2 clone for linux?
[15:33] <Bad_boy> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59824/
[15:33] <Bad_boy> minimec: it was installed i think
[15:34] <minimec> Bad_boy: yes.
[15:34] <brobostigon> mad_max02: i have read your paste, and no hint of your usb hdd connected, so no idea.
[15:34] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: thanks anyway
[15:34] <minimec> Bad_boy: Well I guess I can't help you further with ntfs because I don't have any ntfs partitions.
[15:35] <Bad_boy> minimec: Thanks a lot chaps for trying
[15:35] <KenSentMe> I want to do download a complete directory with command line ftp, but when i do get dirname i get Not a regular file. What am i doing wrong?
[15:36] <minimec> Bad_boy: np
[15:36] <soulc> so no love huh?
[15:36] <Arelis> Will anybody help me? Weird things are happening to my Ubuntu computer, text that turns grey, weird colors, other problems with text, and things are dead slow. What's happening?
[15:37] <DOOM_NX> how do i set mplayer to play 6channel audio?
[15:37] <Arelis> Rebooting didn't fix it
[15:38] <soulc> would like to get awn and desktop enhancements working again
[15:38] <azuki> arelis: you could try disconnecting all USB devices and rebooting... that onetime helped me with a slowdown
[15:39] <azuki> Arelis: if you have any connected ofcourse :)
[15:40] <dako> I have a external harddrive that has a hidden trash folder, can I somehow link to it to empty trash or do I need to just empty it then empty regular trash?
[15:41] <Ace2016> Hi all
[15:41] <Ace2016> how do you find out in which post you got thanked on the ubuntu forums?
[15:42] <Arelis> azuki: here is a screenshot http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1340/200803161640021440x900sfk4.png
[15:43] <slipttees> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1035/ubuntugamesfutureca9.jpg
[15:45] <gmalato> Hello
[15:46] <gmalato> does anyone know how to put the wheel to work on a synaptics touchpad?
[15:47] <morenita> hola salut hi.
[15:47] <troubled> launchpad is the right place to file bugs?
[15:47] <morenita> soy claudia
[15:47] <amenado> gmalato-> in the xorg.conf file, i dont know which line though
[15:48] <morenita> cntos años teneis?????
[15:48] <minimec> gmalato: Take a look at that... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad Very good explanations...
[15:49] <gmalato> amenado: Hi! Yes, I was playing around that file and figured out how to stop the finger srolling but... could not get the wheel to scroll
[15:49] <ConstyXIV> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[15:49] <tbwnoob> how do increase the partion on my hd my drive is saying its running out of room
[15:50] <gmalato> amenado: I'll check that link out, thanks!
[15:50] <Toshio> Q: Can anyone recommend a good URL snooper for FireFox in Ubuntu?
[15:50] <Briareos1> will the suspend disk/ram issues (especially with thinkpad t61) be resolved in hardy?
[15:50] <pisecx> Mar 16 18:50:31 zubuntu kernel: [  214.900000] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (raw set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
[15:50] <pisecx> Mar 16 18:50:31 zubuntu kernel: [  214.900000] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
[15:50] <pisecx> Mar 16 18:50:31 zubuntu kernel: [  214.912000] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (raw set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
[15:50] <pisecx> Mar 16 18:50:31 zubuntu kernel: [  214.912000] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
[15:50] <FloodBot1> pisecx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <pisecx> I see this every one second in the log
[15:51] <core_> is there a way to run Terminal commands and have them return to you via php script?
[15:51] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: I connected the drive to a back USB port, it found it, but it can not mount it though.
[15:51] <pisecx> did not found anything in google, except one, and this did not help
[15:51] <BuntuBear> core_: yes
[15:51] <core_> BuntuBear, how?
[15:51] <LjL> core_: should ask in ##php i guess, but try system() and passthru()
[15:51] <azuki> where can I change the alt-f4 link command?
[15:51] <BuntuBear> $retval = system('cli command here')
[15:52] <brobostigon> Bad_boy: look in dmesg for the dev name of the drive, and try to mount it manuelly.
[15:52] <akumar__> how do i burn a 8gb iso do a disc
[15:52] <Bad_boy> brob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59826/
[15:52] <tbwnoob> with a dvd?
[15:52] <azuki> oops.. sorry.. got it :).. how dumb was i :)
[15:52] <akumar__> when i try right clicking and hit write to disc i get There was an error writing to the disc
[15:52] <akumar__> tbwnoob, yea..
[15:52] <Bad_boy> brobostigon: i do not how to mount manually
[15:53] <tbwnoob> is there a way to resize my parttion after setup
[15:53] <stefano> does anyone have an idea about how well the wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse work with ubuntu?
[15:53] <manuel_> I have problems with an ASUS PB2 Deluxe motherboard and its wifi integrated card. Can anyone help?
[15:53] <Toshio> Q: Can anyone recommend a good URL snooper for FireFox in Ubuntu?
[15:53] <stefano> or how well bluetooth keyboards and mice work in general?
[15:54] <tbwnoob> how do i resize my parttion
[15:54] <akumar__> tbwnoob, nah i dont think so.... but anyone know how to do what im tryign to do
[15:54] <akumar__> burn an 8gb image
[15:54] <plux> stefano: they work very well
[15:54] <tbwnoob> how many gb is the dvd
[15:54] <faileas> !fixapt
[15:54] <bazhang> akumar__: what iso
[15:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:54] <tbwnoob> you might have to burn on and make the second bootable
[15:54] <LjL> !aptfix
[15:54] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:54] <SYNTAX> try using magic iso
[15:54] <stefano> plux, please assure me a second time before i spent so much money :-)
[15:54] <Stormx2> Hiya. I have a public/private key pair. I'm ensured my public key is set up on a remote server I want to ssh to. However I can't seem to get my local machine to ask for my passphrase for my key rather than the remote account's password when I try to ssh. I'm sure there's something I need to do to tie the host in with my key, but I don't know what...
[15:54] <SYNTAX> and mount the iso file
[15:54] <faileas> thanks
[15:54] <Exaltia> tbwnoob, 4,7Gb for the standart one
[15:55] <Exaltia> almost the doubel for dual layer
[15:55] <akumar__> its a 8gb dl disc....
[15:55] <grizlo42> hi, i was trying to set up an apache server
[15:55] <SYNTAX> you can also use a external hardrive that will act as a iso
[15:55] <minimec> Bad_boy: Easy and somehow 'dirty' way to mount your harddisk... 'sudo mount -a' (mount all)
[15:55] <grizlo42> and i can view it from my network
[15:55] <patogen> Is there some good way to add multiple workspaces from a screenshot to one picture?
[15:55] <SYNTAX> so you can load your 8gb
[15:55] <SYNTAX> as an iso file
[15:55] <grizlo42> but i don´t know if it works on others
[15:55] <akumar__> wait how
[15:55] <akumar__> i just made an image
[15:55] <akumar__> from the disc
[15:55] <patogen> Like workspace 1 and 2 screenshot in 1024x768 to a 2048x768 image?
[15:55] <SYNTAX> yes
[15:55] <akumar__> put i my empty disc
[15:55] <brobostigon> mad_max02: theres to partitons on it, sdb1 and sdb5 , look up the mount docs on help.ubuntu.com,
[15:55] <FloodBot1> akumar__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <Stormx2> grizlo42: You mean see if it is visible from the internet?
[15:55] <SYNTAX> use MAGIC ISO
[15:55] <akumar__> now what...
[15:56] <grizlo42> stormx2: yeah
[15:56] <SYNTAX> if you have a 8gig or higher hardvie
[15:56] <bazhang> akumar__: where did you get the iso from
[15:56] <akumar__> where cna i get magic iso from....
[15:56] <Stormx2> grim76, you don't know if it is, or you know it's not?
[15:56] <SYNTAX> mount it into it using the magic iso
[15:56] <akumar__> bazhang, my dvd that i wanted to copy
[15:56] <SYNTAX> it will reformat that drive
[15:56] <SYNTAX> as if it were that iso file
[15:56] <Typhox> Which is my standard-Display in "--display=x"?
[15:56] <Kate_mins> hello, i am trying to install some software for ubuntu from the terminal but i get an error msg : "No package 'glib-2.0' not found" ? what should i do ?(i am new to ubuntu-terminal)
[15:56] <SYNTAX> thas how my friend did it in MAC OSX
[15:57] <manuel_> tbwnoob, try gnu parted. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/index.shtml
[15:57] <Stormx2> Kate_mins, what software are you trying to install?
[15:57] <stefano> Typhox, i think it's 0
[15:57] <grizlo42> i don´t know if it is, and if it isn´t what do i need to do to make it accessable
[15:57] <ConstyXIV> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[15:57] <Typhox> aha, thx
[15:57] <AHA> np
[15:57] <AHA> :p
[15:57] <Stormx2> ConstyXIV, aptitude has a proper interface.
[15:57] <tbwnoob> thanks man
[15:57] <tbwnoob> and what drive should i make bigger
[15:57] <manuel_> akumar__, what are you trying to do?
[15:57] <tbwnoob> which partition
[15:57] <SYNTAX> apt-get is tellling the terminal to find that program
[15:58] <Kate_mins> Stormx2: NATools (tools for sentense/text alignment)
[15:58] <stefano> ConstyXIV, some people think aptitude is better, however if you decide to use one or the other, stick with it, because if you mix them things can get messy
[15:58] <akumar__> manic12,  copy a dvd that is 8gb to a blank dvd
[15:58] <Kate_mins> Stormx2: how i can fix this problem ?
[15:58] <akumar__> i made an image of the old dvd
[15:58] <akumar__> and doesnt work when i try to burn it to disc
[15:58] <minimec> ConstyXIV: aptitude is the newer software and should replace apt-get. I think aptitude is default in Debian now.
[15:58] <SYNTAX> unless you have blu ray disk
[15:58] <SYNTAX> good luck
[15:58] <akumar__> nah its a 8gb dual layer dvd
[15:59] <ConstyXIV> SYNTAX, or dual layer dvds
[15:59] <akumar__> why the hell do i need blu gay
[15:59] <minimec> ConstyXIV: Aptitude handels dependencies better than apt-get
[15:59] <Stormx2> Kate_mins: how are you installing the software?
[15:59] <SYNTAX> lol ..it is blu gay
[15:59] <Kate_mins> ./configure
[15:59] <bazhang> ConstyXIV: apt-get is the superior one
[15:59] <Stormx2> grizlo42: So give someone the IP address and ask them to see if it works o.O
[15:59] <Kate_mins> Stormx2: ./configure
[15:59] <Stormx2> Kate_mins: You mean, you downloaded the source code and you're compiling, yeah?
[16:00] <LjL> !language | akumar__
[16:00] <ubotu> akumar__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:00] <tbwnoob> what version of programs should i use foe ubuntu
[16:00] <tbwnoob> sig
[16:00] <minimec> bazhang: I do not agree with you. Aptitude is meant to be the new power tool.
[16:00] <LjL> tbwnoob: the versions that are in the repositories :)
[16:00] <tbwnoob> bz2
[16:00] <tbwnoob> yea
[16:00] <LjL> !best | minimec, bazhang
[16:00] <ubotu> minimec, bazhang: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[16:00] <bazhang> minimec: hmm that would be where? link?
[16:00] <Stormx2> Kate_mins: Do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:01] <Stormx2> Kate_mins: Then try running the ./configure script again
[16:01] <bazhang> oops sorry for the ot LjL
[16:01] <LjL> bazhang: (aptitude is recommended by Debian)
[16:01] <Stormx2> aptitude is recommended, methinks. At least it has been in debian for a long while because it remembers which packages use what, and things installed as dependancies.
[16:02] <LjL> Stormx2: yeah well the only thing is that the Ubuntu version of APT has that built-in
[16:02] <LjL> (see "apt-get autoremove")
[16:02] <JC_Denton_> trying to run monodevelop but it keeps reporting: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for MonoDevelop.Core.Gui.Services
[16:02] <minimec> bazhang: http://blog.thedebianuser.org/?p=199
[16:02] <KenSentMe> I want to do download a complete directory with command line ftp, but when i do get dirname i get Not a regular file. What am i doing wrong?
[16:02] <Stormx2> LjL, the plot thickens :)
[16:02] <SYNTAX> is anyone here now using hardy heron?
[16:02] <manuel_> i have undefined symbols in dmesg relating to my wifi card, but it was working before ubuntu 7.10
[16:02] <Stormx2> KenSentMe: FTP only allows downloading of files.
[16:02] <SYNTAX> im still waitig for it to release in  april
[16:02] <ConstyXIV> SYNTAX, /join #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <vektori> Try lftp.
[16:03] <qwertymn> JC_Denton_, maybe you need register some fonts
[16:03] <LjL> KenSentMe, FTP does not have a native command to download an entire directory. you must download file by file. try using wget to that purpose.
[16:03] <qwertymn> i think mono needs that
[16:03] <AquaFox|Laptop> Mono doesn't need your charity.
[16:03] <pisecx> can anybody help me? google don't know about this problem. I see one message every one second in the log.
[16:03] <arnath> hi, i plug in a USB flash drive, and for some reason it mounts with 700 as rights, and though it is owned by me, i can not write to it?
[16:03] <pisecx> Mar 16 19:03:03 zubuntu kernel: [  966.732000] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (raw set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0).
[16:03] <pisecx> Mar 16 19:03:03 zubuntu kernel: [  966.732000] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known.
[16:03] <JC_Denton_> qwertymn: would you appreciate the entire error message?
[16:03] <qwertymn> put it on pastebin.ca
[16:04] <qwertymn> and put the link here
[16:05] <belracu>  is it possible to use Gimp from a shell script similar to Imagemagic tools
[16:05] <BadRobot> do you have stuff on it? arnath
[16:05] <JC_Denton_> qwertymn: http://pastebin.org/23941
[16:06] <LjL> belracu: yes. see "gimp --help", specifically the "-i", "-b", and "--batch-interpreter" options
[16:06] <arnath> BadRobot: there's 1 pdf on it, which i didn't put on it
[16:06] <BadRobot> i use to have this problem with my,it was a cheap USB flash disk,always had some problems with it.
[16:06] <LjL> belracu: more detailed information probably in #gimp-users on the irc.gimp.org network
[16:06] <acalbaza> any way to get an updated version of firefox 3 (grand paradisio) using synaptic?
[16:06] <BadRobot> maybe you should to format it
[16:06] <LjL> belracu: or ##gimp here
[16:06] <arnath> BadRobot: could try that
[16:07] <BadRobot> no,there is no FF3 on synaptic
[16:07] <BadRobot> format as FAT16
[16:07] <qwertymn> JC_Denton_, oops, sorry, i was talking in the wrong channel, i thought this was running mono in wine
[16:07] <tuulk> now xorg reconfigure no longer lets people configre device and display is there an alternative ncurses command line gui for this_? xrandr seldomly gets things right with some people. the need to configure xorg is big.
[16:07] <Toshio> Q: Can anyone recommend a good URL snooper for FireFox in Ubuntu?
[16:07] <arnath> BadRobot: stranger still: i couldn't copy into it from X, but if i do it via command line, it's no problem
[16:07] <BadRobot> the only way to install FF3 is manually
[16:07] <acalbaza> BadRobot : synaptic -> search firefox -> firefox-3.0... 3.0~alpha8....
[16:07] <JC_Denton_> qwertymn: oh ok. curious, why run mono in wine when there is a linux implementation?
[16:07] <qwertymn> sorry to bother , maybe someone else can help
[16:08] <LjL> Toshio, none is included in the Ubuntu repositories, try asking in #firefox or well just browsing the extensions site ;)
[16:08] <BadRobot> oh yep ,sorry there is but not updatd version alcabza
[16:08] <qwertymn> JC_Denton_, there seem to be reasons for that, i don't know, but people try it
[16:08] <jtraub> acalbaza, i guess you need to download it from mozilla's site
[16:08] <BadRobot> the beta ones maybe you need to isntall manually
[16:08] <samiam> samiam
[16:08] <samiam> oops
[16:09] <JC_Denton_> qwertymn: perhaps to run their .net apps..
[16:09] <BadRobot> has someone tried the Ubuntu Wubi?
[16:09] <faileas> BadRobot: yup
[16:09] <BadRobot> is it any good?
[16:09] <BadRobot> Is it fast as a normal install?
[16:09] <faileas> BadRobot: i'd say it is, as long as you shut down properly
[16:09] <faileas> hmm
[16:09] <faileas> almost
[16:10] <tbwnoob> should i change my dev folder to more space if im having trouble saving downloads
[16:10] <BadRobot> so,anyone excited about Hardy?
[16:10] <bazhang> !hardy | BadRobot
[16:10] <Ohm> not really
[16:10] <ubotu> BadRobot: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:10] <tbwnoob> dev/sda
[16:12] <azuki> when you press ALT-F3 the deskbar applet starts, how can I turn this off?.. it doesnt turn up in "keyboard shortcuts"
[16:12] <tbwnoob> ?
[16:12] <thelonecabbage> off topic, but does anyone know how the heck these video sites like Hulu can detect what country your coming from?  I'm proxying through US server!
[16:13] <tbwnoob> what is nautalus
[16:13] <minimec> tbwnoob: Don't touch the /dev folder. This is a system folder...
[16:13] <Matic`Makovec> Remind me again...where can you turn of pcspkr module? There is an option somewhere as far as I remember, right? (I can't remember how I turned it off by default and friend is asking me how to do it)
[16:13] <tbwnoob> is it importtant
[16:13] <tbwnoob> okay
[16:13] <tbwnoob> so what folder do i change the parttion on
[16:14] <tbwnoob> for more saving space
[16:15] <tbwnoob> ?
[16:15] <ross`__> hey, im trying to use my modem but it needs a port
[16:15] <ross`__> i don't know what to use as a port
[16:15] <minimec> tbwnoob: All your hardware will be connected and announced to your system via the /dev (device) folder. Example: /dev/video0 could be your webcam or your tv card. If you have both you would have /dev/video0 and /dev/video1.
[16:15] <ross`__> for dial up
[16:16] <tbwnoob> yea
[16:16] <ross`__> what port do i use for dial up
[16:16] <ross`__> it wants the port # for ubuntu
[16:17] <ivanhg> hi, how can my usb mouse start automatically if it doesn't do it now
[16:17] <ivanhg> now it works just when rebooted
[16:17] <minimec> tbwnoob: the /dev folder is part of the '/' filesystem and probably the '/' partition in your system. Downloads normally go in your /home directory (do you have a separate /home partition?)
[16:20] <skillz> i am looking for a laptop in the region of no more than £700 and i would like it to be as light as possible.. i have looked at the XPS m1330 and the Samsung Q70 that was on offer.. it needs to have a dedicated graphics card.. does anyone recomend one?
[16:22] <Ace2016> as light as possible huh? dedicated graphics based systems tend to be high performance systems so they're usually heavy
[16:22] <ronandi> what Aim-protocol supported client do you guys use? Im trying to find a good one
[16:22] <skillz> not realy, the Q70 and M1330 weigh in at about 2.3kg max
[16:22] <skillz> q70 is jsut under 2kg
[16:22] <shadowhywind> hay all having a bit of a problem. My logitech mouse back/forward buttons arn't working anymore and xev doesn't see an event for them either any ideas?
[16:23] <Kyro_> shadowhywind, maybe try unplugging and replugging them in, if theyre usb it might help
[16:23] <Ace2016> mine is 3.5kg
[16:23] <Kyro_> maybe try different ports
[16:23] <skillz> WOAH!!
[16:23] <skillz> Ace: no way
[16:23] <skillz> lol
[16:23] <skillz> i need to be able to carry it
[16:24] <Ace2016> its not heavy, is 3.5kg heavy for a laptop?
[16:24] <minimec> shadowhywind: What mouse do you have? maybe try imwheel. Can you pastbin your xorg.conf entry for the mouse. Probably you need to configure the mouse using the evdev driver in xorg.conf
[16:24] <Ace2016> i just wanted a higher screen res, 1440x900
[16:24] <foxiness> hi on the boot it take too long to read
[16:24] <Ace2016> that samsung is tiny, really tiny
[16:24] <Ace2016> foxiness: read what?
[16:25] <foxiness> Ace2016: form harddisk its slow and alot of message
[16:25] <tbwnoob> lease help
[16:25] <tbwnoob> my fan isnt turning on
[16:25] <tbwnoob> on my motherboard
[16:25] <Ace2016> what fan?
[16:26] <tbwnoob> for ther cpu
[16:26] <Ace2016> is it the same in windows?
[16:26] <tbwnoob> no
[16:26] <shoeunited> hey there, is there a specific channel for submitting possible solutions to Hardy bugs?
[16:26] <Ace2016> tbwnoob: are you in windows now?
[16:26] <tbwnoob> no
[16:26] <shadowhywind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59828/
[16:26] <tbwnoob> im in ubuntu
[16:26] <Ace2016> well i suggest you get back to windows before that thing fries, are you sure the cpu fan is not working?
[16:26] <bastid_raZor> shoeunited; launchpad.net is where to submit and help with bugs
[16:26] <tbwnoob> yea
[16:26] <tbwnoob> ight peace
[16:26] <foxiness> hi on the boot it take too long to read from the harddisk "not normal"
[16:27] <shadowhywind> Mouse0 has been what i have been using for nearly a year, without any issues
[16:27] <anteaya> someone had volunteered to help me mount my ntfs  with my windows files so that i can get those files while in linux.  If I do this are there any security issues to my windows files?
[16:27] <shoeunited> Alright, thank you bastid_raZor.  Launchpad is just a little daunting for me that's all. lol
[16:27] <foxiness> on the boot it take too long to read from the harddisk "not normal",and also after that when i load ff for exp
[16:28] <spydon> can anyone try to connect to this ftp? ftp://spydon.is-a-geek.net
[16:28] <spydon> and tell me if it works...
[16:28] <Paavo> Are there .deb packages available of any newer nvidia binary drivers than the ones in gutsy restricted repo?
[16:28] <Ace2016> spydon: nope
[16:28] <minimec> shadowhywind: You use the 'mouse' driver ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59829/
[16:28] <grizlo42> spydon: anonymously?
[16:28] <Ace2016> errors out
[16:29] <spydon> damn...
[16:29] <bazhang> shoeunited: yes #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> anteaya, There has never been an issue reading files off ntfs..  Security issue.. what kind?
[16:29] <grizlo42> spydon: anon didn´t work
[16:29] <Ace2016> skillz: so why are you going with a system with such a tiny screen
[16:29] <NB2000> kind of worked.  But not really.
[16:29] <kalleskaviar> spydon/lukas, sems to work
[16:29] <spydon> it is anon only but I cant see where the pb is >_<
[16:29] <anteaya> Jack_Sparrow: i am concerned about viruses getting into windows files through ubuntu
[16:29] <mneptok> anteaya: Windows *is* a virus ;)
[16:30] <minimec> shadowhywind: As you see you have to use the evdev dirver for the logitech mouses to have the buttons working...
[16:30] <shadowhywind> minimec let me change that and restart x, brb
[16:30] <anteaya> mneptok: no arguement there
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> anteaya, Your question is hard to answer.. but the short version is no. that wont be a problem
[16:30] <Ace2016> skillz: you're in the uk right?
[16:30] <spydon> kalleskaviar, did you see the folders and the stuff?
[16:30] <Ace2016> skillz: why such a small screen?
[16:30] <skillz> Ace2016: yep
[16:31] <skillz> i want to be able to carry it arround
[16:31] <skillz> i want a portable, but decent laptop
[16:31] <spydon> eeePc ;)
[16:31] <anteaya> Jack_Sparrow: I'm grateful, if you can't trust a pirate...
[16:31] <kalleskaviar> spydon, yeah it said välkommen to spydon/lukas something something
[16:31] <ronandi> what is a good instant msging prog for linux
[16:31] <Ace2016> don't get it from pc world, they're kind of useless middle men, tried to sell me a cover plan which is really no use
[16:31] <skillz> eeePC is 2 small!
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> anteaya, If you download a windows program that has a virus and pass that file over to the ntfs partition . you would have a problem.  But a linux virus.. no
[16:31] <ivanhg> hi, I need to restart my computer in order for my iPod and usb mouse to start working when I plug them in, any ideas how I can prevent that?
[16:31] <skillz> Ace: i hate PC world, usualy go to john lewis to buy my pcs
[16:31] <skillz> 2 year gurantuee
[16:31] <bastid_raZor> ronandi; pidgin
[16:31] <spydon> kalleskaviar, how weird that it works for you but not for the others...
[16:32] <Ace2016> john lewis sells pcs?
[16:32] <anteaya> Jack_Sparrow: yes, that was my concern. thank you
[16:32] <skillz> Ace: yeh... they have an electronic department sells TVs and PCs
[16:32] <skillz> top floor
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> anteaya, Welcome to ubuntu..
[16:32] <skillz> London branch
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[16:32] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:32] <skillz> were i am
[16:32] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[16:32] <minimec> ivanhg: You can probably define a udev rule for the iPod -> search for 'iPod udev ubuntu'
[16:32] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[16:33] <tbwnoob> i have a backup fan on it
[16:33] <skillz> so any idea of a laptop then?
[16:33] <kalleskaviar> spydon, yeah well, i don't know what to say. maybe you're passive and you're passive or some such.
[16:33] <viller> I am installing kubuntu and it's taking hours. WTF? I went away for a second, is there a software selection or something because it seems to be taking a lot of time because it's installing a lot of soft
[16:33] <kalleskaviar> spydon, err i mean't they and you
[16:33] <Ace2016> tbwnoob: is the backup fan on the heatsink?
[16:33] <tbwnoob> so what could be causeing my fan to stop when i get to the login screen
[16:33] <Ace2016> oh
[16:33] <CraigGB> oh god avast just um tried to destroy my hiberfil.sys(hibernaton)  file from vista in ubuntu
[16:33] <Ace2016> it could be cpufreq or something doing power management, trying to save power
[16:34] <ivanhg> minimec: thanks, does the same work for the usb mouse?
[16:34] <Ace2016> tbwnoob: what cpu is it?
[16:34] <bazhang> CraigGB: this is #ubuntu you know
[16:34] <NB2000> What must I apt-get to have mouse activated in terminal?  Server install...
[16:34] <Seveas> CraigGB, looks like you want help in ##windows
[16:34] <CraigGB> i know i meant advast in ubuntu
[16:34] <minimec> ivanhg: You don't need that for the mouse, as the mouse is probably always plugged when you boot...
[16:34] <shadowhywind> yah that didn't work
[16:34] <bazhang> CraigGB: avast in ubuntu? not needed
[16:35] <CraigGB> is there anyway to stop it avast in ubuntu i mean sorry
[16:35] <CraigGB> yeah i have a vista partion so i dont want to to cross
[16:35] <lonran> hi everybody
[16:35] <ivanhg> minimec: its a laptop so its not always plugged
[16:35] <lonran> what can i use to play a .m4v file?
[16:35] <minimec> ivanhg: ok, but still I don't think that you need that for the mouse...
[16:35] <peneG> âñåì ïðèâåò
[16:35] <LjL> !ru
[16:35] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:36] <ivanhg> minimec: ok, thanks for the info:)
[16:36] <Ace2016> [16:34] <-- tbwnoob has left this server (Remote closed the connection).             hm... i wonder what happened there
[16:36] <bazhang> CraigGB: avast installed from where? perhaps check on their forums
[16:36] <minimec> shadowhywind: no success with evdev? You have to configure it right, that's all. The two configurations in my pastebin should do for your Logimouse.
[16:37] <NB2000> What must I apt-get to have mouse activated in terminal?  Server install... Any ideas?
[16:37] <shadowhywind> minimec and thats the thing, I have tried simillar configs like yours and the one that i had was working, up to like yesterday
[16:38] <Ohm> Hey guys, I need some very serious help. It's a big problem, so I described it in the following .txt file:
[16:38] <prince_jammys> !info gpm | NB2000
[16:38] <ubotu> nb2000: gpm (source: gpm): General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-25 (gutsy), package size 372 kB, installed size 708 kB
[16:38] <Ohm> http://owner.rnachoctb.org/error.txt
[16:38] <Tigerplug> whats happening?
[16:38] <NB2000> Thanks.  Will try...
[16:38] <Ohm> To sum it up: Around 90% of GUI apps segfault on startup
[16:39] <minimec> shadowhywind: All I can say to you is that I only work with Logitech devices for years and they are all working properly. There is a software called imwheel (in the repos) that allows you to configure the buttons for any software you want.
[16:39] <peneG> gpltw
[16:39] <bazhang> Tigerplug: do you have a support question?
[16:39] <urlwolf> hi
[16:39] <peneG> ïèçäåñ
[16:39] <urlwolf> I'm contemplating moving away from windows for good (to ubuntu)
[16:39] <NB2000> Oh yeah.  Mouse works great. thanks.
[16:39] <Tigerplug> bazhang well I was hoping to help out anyway that I can
[16:39] <prince_jammys> NB2000: cool
[16:39] <urlwolf> but there's one thing that I need: an autocompleter
[16:39] <Ohm> urlwolf: autocompleter for.. what?
[16:39] <NB2000> prince_jammys will that auto-start at boot?
[16:40] <prince_jammys> urlwolf: autocompleter of what?
[16:40] <Tigerplug> is that ok bazhang
[16:40] <urlwolf> I write a lot and the ability to do tab completion on any window is key to me
[16:40] <prince_jammys> NB2000: don't know, never tried it
[16:40] <urlwolf> I use intellicomplete:
[16:40] <bazhang> Tigerplug: haha dont ask me; I just lurk here ;]
[16:40] <Tigerplug> lol cool
[16:40] <urlwolf> www.flashpeak.com/icomp
[16:40] <urlwolf> is there anything similar for linux>
[16:40] <urlwolf> ?
[16:40] <Ohm> urlwolf: I'd never thought of the idea of having something global to the OS like that. Cool idea.
[16:40] <shoeunited> Thank you Bazhang
[16:41] <urlwolf> There was a GPL version of this called letMeType
[16:41] <urlwolf> for win
[16:41] <foxiness> what is the tool to test smart info about harddisk?
[16:41] <minimec> shadowhywind: Try 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices' to see what device your mouse has ...
[16:41] <urlwolf> the author stopped development because he moved to linux
[16:41] <bazhang> no worries shoeunited ;]
[16:41] <prince_jammys> urlwolf: you mean it autocompletes dictionary words as you type?
[16:41] <foxiness> not found on add/remove
[16:41] <urlwolf> I wonder if he developed something like it for linux
[16:41] <bastid_raZor> urlwolf; if you use a terminal in linux tab completion already exists
[16:41] <urlwolf> yes and it also learns words you use and accurately predicts them
[16:41] <urlwolf> of course.
[16:42] <urlwolf> but I want that on ANY window
[16:42] <urlwolf> plus tab completion in terminal is just for commands and dir/files
[16:42] <shadowhywind> minimec i have two Logitech USB Receivers listed
[16:42] <urlwolf> not for any word
[16:43] <minimec> shadowhywind: Do you have one of these logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combos?
[16:43] <minimec> shadowhywind: Like the s510?
[16:43] <urlwolf> My guess is that it intercepts the keyboard and completes from there. Maybe it's window-manager dependent if such a thing exists
[16:43] <shadowhywind> minimec: yes I do actraully, I am not using the keyboard though
[16:43] <CraigGB> um is their anywhere four causul ubuntu chat?
[16:43] <CraigGB> for
[16:43] <bazhang> CraigGB: #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[16:44] <CraigGB> thanks
[16:44] <minimec> shadowhywind: Wait a moment ...
[16:44] <Mklcst> hi guys
[16:44] <Ohm> urlwolf: Probably distro-specific, but shouldn't need to be WM specific
[16:44] <Mklcst> i need help with r software
[16:44] <Ohm> all it has to do is intercept keyboard input and fake keyboard output
[16:44] <urlwolf> right
[16:44] <ddmdllt> hello everybody
[16:44] <urlwolf> but there's such a thing?
[16:44] <urlwolf> if not, someone should code one
[16:45] <Ohm> urlwolf: not that I've heard of, sorry
[16:45] <ddmdllt> does someone knows a way to force firefox to use ipv4 just for a website?
[16:45] <bazhang> !brainstorm | urlwolf
[16:45] <ubotu> urlwolf: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[16:45] <ddmdllt> (I can't just enter the ipv4 address, the server hosts multiple sites)
[16:45] <tbwnoob> hye guys
[16:45] <tbwnoob> im back
[16:46] <tbwnoob> my fan is on
[16:46] <tbwnoob> but i dont know nwhat i did to get it
[16:46] <tbwnoob> there
[16:46] <tbwnoob> an error came up
[16:46] <tbwnoob>  dpkg --configure -a
[16:46] <tbwnoob> it told me to do that command
[16:46] <tbwnoob> does anyone know what that does
[16:46] <tbwnoob>  dpkg --configure -a
[16:46] <FloodBot3> tbwnoob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <bazhang> tbwnoob: then do the command ;]
[16:47] <tbwnoob> i did
[16:47] <tbwnoob> but i dont know if that fixed the fan not turning on
[16:47] <bazhang> is it on now tbwnoob?
[16:47] <Ohm> tbwnoob: man dpkg and then read
[16:48] <qwerty121> Anyone having any success in installing and running Adobe Air in Ubuntu?
[16:48] <tbwnoob> nope thats not my fan problem
[16:48] <tbwnoob> but im going to install the rest of my updates
[16:48] <tbwnoob> and see if that helps
[16:48] <bazhang> tbwnoob: could be hardware then
[16:49] <minimec> shadowhywind: my Logitech s510 configuration http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59834/
[16:50] <minimec> shadowhywind: see also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82844&page=2 I worked on that combo ... ;)
[16:51] <shadowhywind> minimec trying that lastest pastebin, brb
[16:51] <tekstacy> What do I use to make a dvd from a .avi file?
[16:51] <steel_lady> hi, can somebody tell me what is dom-x? I downloaded some movie and it says I need it
[16:52] <xq> tekstacy: Donwload Devede
[16:52] <tekstacy> xq, thanks, I'll check it out
[16:52] <jason__> I use gnash player with firefox browser plug in because every time i have tried non free flash firefox crashes gnash is cool put cannot play flash 9
[16:53] <shadowhywind> minimec: that last pastebin, still nothing
[16:53] <xq> tekstacy: It's great. It slices, it dices it...err. It will do everything you need and even burn it after it converts to DVD format. :-)
[16:53] <bazhang> steel_lady: downloaded a movie? from where?
[16:53] <sheepmas> Hi everyone. Please let me know if there's a better forum for this (I'm new here), otherwise: Can anyone recommend a good symbolic math package in ubuntu? Is there anything similar to mathematica/maple in ubuntu?
[16:53] <lvkasi> hellp
[16:54] <jrib> sheepmas: maxima
[16:54] <xq> sheepmas: apt-get install maxima wxmaxima
[16:54] <xq> sheepmas: Or Mathomatic -- Either one.
[16:54] <tekstacy> cool. found it in the repo, installing now
[16:54] <xq> tekstacy: Have fun. It's great.
[16:55] <xq> sheepmas: You can still use Maple or or Mathematica...
[16:55] <tekstacy> Thanks alot. Off to play
[16:56] <minimec> shadowhywind: follow the link I gave you. I worked hard on that s510 combo and I was able to get it work.
[16:56] <yowshi> anyone know how to shut down a stuck flash object?
[16:56] <minimec> shadowhywind: By the way ... I am typing with it right now ....
[16:57] <shadowhywind> minimec i believe that it should work. But like i said, everything that should be working isn't. It was working up to yesterday and then poof it doesn't
[16:57] <sheepmas> Cool. Cheers xq, jrib. I have a copy of maple at work, but don't have a license for use at home, so I'm looking for a open source alternative. Any idea how maxima / mathomatic compare to maple/mathematica? Maxima looks good on the face of it
[16:58] <xq> sheepmas: They are excellent :)
[16:59] <minimec> shadowhywind: Oh ... So you had one of 'these' days... ;) I hate them too. lol
[16:59] <tbwnoob> can you set your ubuntu to run more than one setup at once?
[16:59] <xq> sheepmas: I use it all of the time.
[16:59] <shadowhywind> minimec yup
[16:59] <yowshi> anyone know how to shut down a stuck flash object?
[16:59] <yowshi> i have a flash thingy tat didnt close with firefox and now i have a giant blank square in the middle of my screen
[16:59] <Fryguy--> yowshi: you'll have to be somewhat more specific.  As an vague answer to your equally vague question, ps + kill will do what you want
[17:00] <jrib> tbwnoob: what do you mean by "setup"?
[17:00] <sheepmas> xq: great. Thanks!
[17:00] <jrib> yowshi: are you on amd64?
[17:00] <yowshi> it's the size of a window for a flash game i was playing to i am guessing it is from that
[17:00] <yowshi> yes
[17:00] <SLXViper> yowshi: xkill
[17:01] <SLXViper> start xkill and klick on this window
[17:01] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ xkill
[17:01] <yowshi> Select the window whose client you wish to kill with button 1....
[17:01] <jrib> yowshi: ps -ef | grep npviewer    then kill the process
[17:01] <yowshi> ummm i dont know what to do there
[17:01] <jrib> yowshi: if xkill doesn't work
[17:01] <amenado> yowshi  try  xrefresh
[17:01] <tbwnoob> like do updates
[17:01] <reverseblade> my wireless card becomed insvisible suddenly. Can anyone help ?
[17:01] <tbwnoob> and install some other drivers at once
[17:01] <SLXViper> yowshi: try alt+tab to get that flash window on top
[17:01] <tbwnoob> like install two things at once
[17:01] <SLXViper> then klick on it
[17:02] <minimec> reverseblade: Do you have a wireless button on your hardware? Check that first... ;)
[17:02] <amenado> yowshi  xrefresh  refreshes X display
[17:02] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: no
[17:02] <reverseblade> minimec, yes but it is working
[17:02] <yowshi> ummm i cant the window is right where the aklt tab thing is so i cant tell which window i am selecting
[17:02] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: there's a lock in place that only allows you to install one thing for a reason
[17:02] <yowshi> xrefresh didnt work
[17:02] <Gizmo_The_Great> trying to kill a process using 'sudo kill 1234' but the process still running when re-execute 'ps -A'. What am I doing wrong?
[17:02] <SLXViper> hum
[17:02] <Fryguy--> Gizmo_The_Great: try kill -9
[17:03] <yowshi> the grep mthing did thiough
[17:03] <yowshi> thanks
[17:03] <Gizmo_The_Great> Fryguy--, what's the -9?
[17:03] <minimec> reverseblade: ok. My mother ince called me with that problem ... ;)
[17:03] <Fryguy--> Gizmo_The_Great: it's a different signal that means "really blow up"
[17:03] <yowshi> the grep and kill thing worked thanks jrib
[17:03] <minimec> reverseblade: what does iwconfig tell you?
[17:03] <SLXViper> sudo kill -9 1234 terminates the process at once.
[17:03] <tbwnoob> is there a souloution or is that the way it runs
[17:03] <Gizmo_The_Great> Fryguy--, thanks. that has worked :-)
[17:04] <reverseblade> minimec, it can't find the hardware
[17:04] <reverseblade> says no wireless extensions
[17:04] <yowshi> man if i had only kown that command. i get this flash problem pretty frequently
[17:04] <Fryguy--> Gizmo_The_Great: kill is somewhat misnamed, as it allows you to send any signal to an application, not just sigkill (there are dozens of other signals available), -9 just happens to flag a different signal.  Check out the manpage for more details
[17:04] <vargran> hi everyone
[17:05] <bazhang> tbwnoob that is the way it is
[17:05] <vargran> I'm trying to install 7.10 on my asus x50v, but it says it can't find cdrom. what am i doing wrong?
[17:05] <minimec> reverseblade: not good. When did the problem occur? After an update or so? I guess the device was working before...
[17:05] <zelrikriando> vargran: make sure your CD is working :)
[17:05] <vargran> zelrikriando: it works
[17:05] <vargran> under win
[17:05] <vargran> I've burned cd image using it
[17:06] <zelrikriando> vargran: is it really a CD image?
[17:06] <vargran> zelrikriando: and how do you think i've booted?
[17:06] <Fryguy--> vargran: what exactly is the problem?  what is this "it" that is saying cannot find cdrom?
[17:06] <zelrikriando> vargran: so the live CD booted?
[17:07] <vargran> yes
[17:07] <vargran> alternative boot cd. install shell says it can't mount cd :(
[17:07] <vargran> one sec
[17:07] <vargran> will send ya part of syslog
[17:07] <Fryguy--> any particular reason why you aren't just using the livecd?
[17:07] <amenado> what trick one can do to print a web page in let say default font 12 size while when viewed in  a browser it could be 18 ?  old people need to view the screen bigger :P
[17:07] <vargran> I got ATI video card
[17:08] <Fryguy--> vargran: so?
[17:08] <zelrikriando> so?
[17:08] <mexicanbanana> What is a virtual world that doesn't suck ass where there is some chance of making a living? Second Life, WoW and Entropia Universe are all out of the question. I want to experience like a simulated young USA. How can there not be something like this out there?
[17:08] <vargran> simple live cd can't start X :(
[17:08] <jrib> !offtopic | mexicanbanana
[17:08] <ubotu> mexicanbanana: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:08] <bazhang> mexicanbanana: not here please; this is #ubuntu support
[17:08] <SpookyET> I'm installing KDE to see what the fuss is about. It won the linuxquestions poll.
[17:08] <core_> where does ubuntu store the config for my wireless, there is 3 files i belive one is channel the other is rate and the last is bssid?
[17:08] <Fryguy--> vargran: it certainly can.  Try using the second option on the boot menu if you are having problems.  I've booted the livecd on plenty of ati cards
[17:09] <brobostigon> core_: /etc/network/interfaces
[17:09] <amenado> core_-> /etc/network/interfaces
[17:09] <Fryguy--> SpookyET: have fun with that
[17:09] <core_> brobostigon, amenado thanks
[17:09] <vargran> Fryguy--: it wount solve the problem: cdrom-detect: CD-ROM mount failed: device=/dev/scd0
[17:09] <zelrikriando> I know my next computer will not have ATI in it
[17:09] <zelrikriando> :D
[17:09] <Fryguy--> vargran: are you using a SATA cdrom drive? or scsi?
[17:10] <vargran> sata
[17:10] <Fryguy--> vargran: try disabling ahci
[17:10] <vargran> at least I think so
[17:10] <core_> brobostigon, amenado those files arn't there interfaces is a file itself but doesn't store the channel, rate and bssid
[17:10] <vargran> ok, will try it now
[17:10] <SpookyET> Fryguy--: you say it sucks?
[17:10] <Fryguy--> SpookyET: no
[17:10] <amenado> core_-> you can store it in there, the exact syntax i do not know off hand
[17:10] <core_> thank you
[17:10] <brobostigon> core_: on mine the wireless settings are in that file.
[17:11] <Fryguy--> SpookyET: I don't really like it, mostly because I grew up learning linux on minimal desktops (and gnome sometimes), so I'm more used to those than kde, and they do what I want
[17:11] <amenado> core_-> if you want the transient settings, you have to dig it up from /proc  or maybe /sys
[17:11] <Fryguy--> btw using /etc/network/interfaces will usually screw with nm-applet, especially in the case of wireless
[17:11] <Thrash100> will a deb made with alien on 7.10 work on 7.04?
[17:12] <Fryguy--> Thrash100: try it and see
[17:12] <bazhang> haha
[17:12] <chatuu> hey
[17:12] <brobostigon> Fryguy--: i dont use network manager
[17:12] <chatuu> i need help
[17:12] <chatuu> anyone can help ?
[17:12] <Fryguy--> chatuu: not until you ask your question
[17:12] <bazhang> if you ask chatuu
[17:12] <core_> amenado, brobostigon before i had to reinstall ubuntu the 2nd time there were 3 files that was actually called rate, bssid and channel that i would edit. any idea?
[17:12] <Gizmo_The_Great> Trying to setup Skype. Have installed it and registered OK. Have headphones with Mic. Trying to configure. When I select the recording device, there's a list of 10 or so items. Only one works and that is rather patchy, crackly, and not very loud when I do the call test. Any thoughts why?
[17:12] <vargran> erm how do I disable ahci during boot?
[17:13] <Fryguy--> vargran: probably in your bios somewhere
[17:13] <brobostigon> core_: as i said /etc/network/interfaces does what you describe
[17:13] <core_> amenado, brobostigon i am trying to automatically set the information im trying to use by using iwconfig eth1 bssid 00:00:00:00:00:00 it returns that the mode is not supported
[17:13] <amenado> core_-> on ubuntu? not sure where that is, but as i suggested earlier, you can dig through /proc or /sys to find those transient files
[17:13] <vargran> Fryguy--: is it possible to disable it using kernel parameter or sort of?
[17:13] <Fryguy--> vargran: no idea.  I'm basically guessing
[17:14] <SliMM> hello
[17:14] <Fryguy--> core_: are you sure eth1 is your wireless card?
[17:14] <SliMM> how can i make a script to turn off compiz if it is running and to turn it on if not?
[17:14] <core_> yes
[17:15] <vargran> my bios doesn't have any options on ahci
[17:15] <vargran> :(
[17:15] <bazhang> SliMM: have you thought this fully through? would that be a recursive loop?
[17:15] <Fryguy--> SliMM: why do you want to do that?
[17:15] <minimec> Gizmo_The_Great: I have that problem with my logitech webcam sphere with integrated audio... I think in my case it is dirver related...
[17:15] <SliMM> bazhang: it's just a switch an "if" that is run only once
[17:16] <SliMM> Fryguy--: because i need to turn it off to play 3d games well
[17:16] <orudie> bazhang: there ?
[17:16] <bazhang> SliMM: alt f2 compiz --replace; about as easy as you can get imo
[17:16] <core_> Fryguy--, this is what i get, i type in iwconfig eth1 essid 00:c0:49:ff:66:b0 and it returns "iwconfig: unknown command "00:c0:49:ff:66:b0"
[17:16] <SliMM> bazhang: that's for turning it on
[17:16] <Fryguy--> SliMM: so why do you care about switching it? you disable it when you want to play, and then re-enable it when you are done
[17:17] <bazhang> SliMM: alt f2 metacity --replace
[17:17] <thesurvivorman> or you could make another user that doesn't have compiz running and switch
[17:17] <Fryguy--> core_: then obviously you are typing the command wrong.  Read the manpage
[17:17] <bazhang> core that is not the bssid
[17:17] <amenado> core_-> if you have to set a network parameter, you have to sudo,  just to look at setting sometimes you dont have to be root
[17:17] <orudie> bazhang: my putty session froze while i was in screen, after reconnecting i try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59836/, dont konw how to get back to this attached screen
[17:18] <meoblast001> hello... i have an ipod shuffle on /dev/sdb1 and i need to know what i should do to the fstab so it will mount it giving all permission to my non-root user... how would i do this?
[17:18] <SliMM> Fryguy--: because i can't add an icon on the desktop to disable or enable it (in one word to switch it) unless i write a script
[17:18] <Fryguy--> orudie: try screen -R -D
[17:18] <orudie> Fryguy--: capital ?
[17:18] <bazhang> meoblast001: likely the issue is the libgpod and not that
[17:18] <Fryguy--> SliMM: so then write the oneline scripts that kill and start a process
[17:18] <raidium> looking for a guru to help me with some install probs on evga 680i, 8800gts x2. getting blank screen with live cd and various problems using alt cd (suse works fine)
[17:18] <Fryguy--> orudie: yes
[17:18] <compu73rg33k> is there a way to turn off workspace scrolling/
[17:19] <Fryguy--> compu73rg33k: yes, assuming you are using a stock install, just find the pager icon on your gnome-panel, right click it and go to preferences
[17:19] <orudie> Fryguy-- helped thanx
[17:19] <SliMM> Fryguy--: exactly; so, what are those scripts?
[17:19] <russ> hello can anybody help me figure out how to stop a screensaver from running? I have kde desktop and the screensaver that runs seems to be unrelated to it. I can't find any place to change its settings, and it crashes my session when certain other programs are running.
[17:19] <amenado> how do i tell firefox to print default to  font size 12 while in viewing its font size 18?  anyone good at lpr command options?   :)
[17:20] <Fryguy--> SliMM: uh #!/bin/bash compiz;     and #!/bin/bash killall metacity --replace;   will probably work...
[17:20] <amenado> my default firefox print is  lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER_
[17:20] <meoblast001> bazhang: it mounts properly and shows up in rhythmbox when i mount it with Gparted but it mounts it as root
[17:20] <Fryguy--> SliMM: this isn't really the right channel to be asking basic questions about scripting
[17:20] <SliMM> ok, sorry
[17:20] <thesurvivorman> i use gnome but the screensaver option might be under power management, or something like that
[17:20] <bazhang> meoblast001: are you logging in as root? what happened with that?
[17:20] <naag> hello :-)
[17:21] <compu73rg33k> Fryguy--, in the preferences I can only determine the rows and columsn of the number of workspaces
[17:21] <meoblast001> bazhang: im logged in as a non-root user but i mounted it with gparted to make it easy
[17:21] <compu73rg33k> no option to turn off scrolling?
[17:21] <Fryguy--> compu73rg33k: so set it to 1 and 1...
[17:21] <bazhang> meoblast001: ah well that would be the problem then
[17:21] <stefano> is there some sort of good data recovery software for windows? (sorry to ask here, it's for a friend)
[17:21] <naag> i just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 which broke my reiserfs /home partition on LVM
[17:21] <naag> anyone seen something like this?
[17:21] <core_> Fryguy--, i read it and i should be typing iwconfig eth1 ap 00:00:00:00:00 now i get "Set failed on device eth1 ; operation not supported??"
[17:21] <minimec> amenado: I would set default size back to 12 and use <ctrl>+ for the font size.
[17:21] <Fryguy--> naag: #ubuntu+1, don't use beta software.  restore your backup, etc.
[17:22] <meoblast001> bazhang: so what should i do to the fstab so it mounts it as user braden
[17:22] <compu73rg33k> but i want the ones I have I just odn't want hte ability to scroll through them with my mouse
[17:22] <amenado> minimec am looking for setting it in about:config  so i can just default to print at that small size, while viewing in large font size
[17:22] <naag> fryguy: i have a backup and restored most of the data, but still. an upgrade really shouldn't fry your reiserfs volume
[17:22] <Fryguy--> core_: go read a basic introduction to setting up wireless, as you seem to be just typing in random commands at this point.  I don't have wireless on this machine and have no way to help you, and ubuntu REALLY wants you to use nm-applet as opposed to doing it manually
[17:22] <Fryguy--> naag: it's beta, it can do whatever it wants
[17:23] <meoblast001> bazhang: this is what i have "/dev/sdb1       /media/disk   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"
[17:23] <minimec> amenado: why not... if there is a about:config option ...
[17:23] <naag> fryguy: wouldnt this indicate some sort of bug?
[17:23] <Fryguy--> naag: make sure you go and report the bug so the ubuntu people can take a look at it and possibly address the issue
[17:23] <naag> fryguy: alright
[17:24] <amenado> minimec thats what am seeking..need some expertise, so many options that i glanced through nothing I caught yet thats 12 cpi..
[17:24] <bazhang> meoblast001: no idea how to do undo the root/gparted issue; I just mount it normally, never using gparted--sorry not to be of any help here
[17:24] <vargran> seems that ubuntu isn't ready for asus laptops :(
[17:25] <meoblast001> bazhang: tell me how to mount it normally without it being owned 100% by root
[17:25] <compu73rg33k> Fryguy--, is there a way to just turn off the mouse scrolling navigation?
[17:25] <Fryguy--> meoblast001: just review mount parameters, man mount will give you details
[17:25] <compu73rg33k> I hotkey'd my navigation so I dont' need tos croll w/ the mouse
[17:25] <meoblast001> k
[17:25] <Fryguy--> compu73rg33k: what mouse scrolling navigation.  compiz doesn't enable that by default
[17:25] <marcin> witam:)
[17:26] <compu73rg33k> yeah it does :\
[17:26] <amenado> minimec i wonder if thats a filter on cups or has to be set on the browser...
[17:26] <Fryguy--> are you talking about mouse wheel or what?
[17:26] <compu73rg33k> http://www.linux.com/feature/120112?theme=print 6th paragraph search for the word "scrolling"
[17:26] <russ> how can I find the process that starts my screensaver and kill it?
[17:26] <compu73rg33k> don't have any specific window in focus and scroll your mouse, it scrolls through the workspaces
[17:27] <minimec> amenado: I don't know, but as I said before, I handle font size with <ctrl>+/- and I have no problem with printing.
[17:27] <Fryguy--> compu73rg33k: if you are talking about mouse wheel, then just go into compiz settings manager and change it (install compizconfig-settings-manager first)
[17:27] <bazhang> vargran: tell that to my eeepc ;]
[17:27] <amenado> its been a while back since orielly published that book on printing...got to find that book again or an update
[17:27] <compu73rg33k> Fryguy--, ah okay thanks
[17:27] <vargran> bazhang: eeepc is another type of device, it's a SUBnotebook, not a laptop
[17:27] <Fryguy--> vargran: lol
[17:28] <Fryguy--> vargran: i've personally installed linux on variuos asus laptops without issue
[17:28] <vargran> Fryguy--: look at the specification
[17:28] <bazhang> vargran: asus laptops handle ubuntu fine
[17:28] <amenado> minimec-> what do you do? you have a setting at lowest rez at 12 fonts and lets say 20 fonts and you cycle through them til you hit the right size?
[17:28] <vargran> Fryguy--: and on mine it doesn't installs
[17:28] <vargran> Fryguy--: ideas?
[17:29] <Fryguy--> vargran: i gave you my ideas.  I'm sure if there actually is a problem installing on the laptop then google has an answer for you.  This is ubuntu support not "omg, let's hope to find somebody with my exact hardware configuration so they can handhold me through an install"
[17:29] <amenado> vargran-> sell your asus laptop on ebay so i may be it in-expensively :P
[17:29] <minimec> amenado: Firefox has a zoom function <ctrl>+/- Just try it in your browser window...
[17:29] <vargran> amenado: ggyf
[17:30] <croSmiley> hi all
[17:30] <bazhang> ?
[17:30] <amenado> vargran dittoo whatever that is..hehehe
[17:30] <vargran> Fryguy--: I'm a user, which requires linux, I don't want to debug a half of kernel or build my own sys
[17:30] <elm1> hey people :D, so im having a little problem with my net, there seems to be a slight lag inbetween my select time and my actual browsing time, ive got a 8mb connection, and i jus wonder y its happening, could it b something having to do with my DNS, any help wud be greatly appreciated, thanks
[17:30] <vargran> so if ubuntu doesn't work in any way, that means: fuck it! :) bye everyone
[17:30] <minimec> core_: I redd about your iwconfig thing. What exactly is your problem?
[17:31] <JJones> Hello
[17:31] <bazhang> !ohmy
[17:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:31] <ross`> how do i find out what interface my wireless card is?
[17:31] <elm1> hey people :D, so im having a little problem with my net, there seems to be a slight lag inbetween my select time and my actual browsing time, ive got a 8mb connection, and i jus wonder y its happening, could it b something having to do with my DNS, any help wud be greatly appreciated, thanks
[17:31] <croSmiley> is there any application that can close other programs if they are inactive for some time: this is the thread => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725624
[17:31] <amenado> minmec i know, i use ctrl+/- but am asking you if you are printing at small fonts, you just cycle to the lowest rez that suits you and then print?
[17:31] <radomircho> I need some help ...it's about installing something...I just don know what's happening...can anybody help me???
[17:31] <bazhang> ross`: ifconfig iwconfig
[17:31] <stefano> elm1, sounds like an issue with your DNS servers
[17:31] <JJones> Hello I know you guys are busy but I had a quick question, is their an applicated some what like limewire for ubuntu?
[17:31] <radomircho> I need some help ...it's about installing something...I just don know what's happening...can anybody help me???
[17:31] <JJones> applications*
[17:32] <croSmiley> is there ubuntu programming channel?
[17:32] <bazhang> radomircho: please describe your problem clearly
[17:32] <elm1> i figured bcuz it never used to happen, it used to jus zip along, u kno hhow i can i doh kno reset them?
[17:32] <jpatrick> croSmiley: #ubuntu-motu
[17:32] <croSmiley> thx
[17:32] <stefano> elm1, open your network preferences and put in some dns servers of which you know that they work, you can find out what those are by calling your ISP or possibly looking at their website / googling
[17:32] <erUSUL> !ask | radomircho
[17:32] <ubotu> radomircho: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:33] <JJones> Are their any applications like limewire for Ubuntu?
[17:33] <ompaul> !frostwire | JJones
[17:33] <ubotu> JJones: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[17:33] <bazhang> frostwire gtk-gnutella JJones
[17:33] <JJones> Thanks
[17:33] <radomircho> bazhang: I type    sudo apt-get install build-essential and it says that it's missing...once (some months ago) i did it and it all went fine...now i reinstalled ubuntu and it's just not working...the same thing is happening when i try install amsn
[17:33] <radomircho> what should i do???
[17:33] <radomircho> Please
[17:33] <amenado> elm1 is the other end as fast as yours? maybe the other end has to catch up huh? or yeah you're resolving to an ipv6 as your first priority?
[17:33] <JJones> Does it use the same network (so i will get the same lists of music ect. ) ?
[17:34] <radomircho> and i'm sorry if my English is not good enough
[17:34] <erUSUL> radomircho: you will have to give us more details if you want an answer
[17:34] <marcin> witam
[17:34] <bazhang> radomircho: what exact error message does it give please
[17:34] <radomircho> just a second to check
[17:34] <marcin> są tu polacy??
[17:34] <bazhang> JJones: no idea and offtopic here
[17:34] <marcin> :)
[17:34] <marcin> hehe
[17:34] <jin> !mp3
[17:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu-pl marcin
[17:35] <JJones> k
[17:35] <marcin> :)
[17:35] <radomircho> wait.....it's working now...i've tried it so many times....it didn't but now it is
[17:35] <marcin> ok
[17:35] <radomircho> Thanks anyway
[17:35] <radomircho> :)
[17:35] <minimec> radomircho: bazhang I guess you should have a look in your /etc/apt/sources.list ... de/activate cd source and universe multiverse ...
[17:36] <radomircho> thanks bazhang
[17:36] <bazhang> minimec: my sources are fine thanks ;] and with apt-get no less
[17:36] <minimec> bazhang: my advice was for radomircho ;)
[17:37] <bazhang> minimec: just a joke ;]
[17:37] <ar0nic> are internet explorer bookmarks importable into ubuntu?
[17:37] <jin> hi
[17:37] <Stroganoff> is it save to disable atd?
[17:37] <elm1> stefano: no joy there, can i, like say the default that u start with in ubuntu?
[17:38] <russ> any ideas how to find and stop a pesky screensaver?
[17:38] <jin> when connecting to my home wireless network, Uuntu does not ask me to remember password. Any way to set it manually?
[17:38] <stefano> elm1, normally you put the adress of your router / gateway there
[17:38] <Toznoshio> ar0nic, first import those bookmarks into firefox in Windows
[17:38] <stefano> elm1, i can give you mine but they're in germany so theyre going to be slow for you
[17:38] <ar0nic> AH
[17:38] <ar0nic> ok
[17:38] <ar0nic> then just copy
[17:38] <bazhang> russ just disable the screensavers for now--you mean you sleep sometimes? ;]
[17:39] <foxiness> i found i have "high load cycles for hard disks" problem ,how i know if my laptop now hang or crash with laptop mode enable?
[17:39] <ar0nic> i knew the way firefox and ie dealt with their bookmarks were a little different
[17:39] <minimec> ar0nic: Import them to firefox in windows and copy them afterwords to linux. I guess that should work.
[17:39] <tbwnoob_> whats up
[17:39] <russ> bazhang the funny thing is I can't even find the screensaver that is running. the kde screensaver dialog just seems to not work
[17:40] <tbwnoob> nothing much
[17:40] <wxPython> hello
[17:40] <wxPython> anything new on hardy?
[17:40] <bazhang> russ did you hit apply?
[17:40] <russ> bazhang so if i could just identify the pid and kill it ...
[17:40] <bazhang> !hardy | wxPython
[17:40] <ubotu> wxPython: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:40] <wxPython> you're so itchy
[17:41] <bazhang> true but offtopic wxPython ;]
[17:41] <russ> bazhang possibly no! I hit OK, so let me see if that does it.
[17:41] <backtracker> hi
[17:41] <backtracker> if I want to run Ares
[17:41] <backtracker> at my box
[17:41] <backtracker> then I need Wine? but how-to?
[17:42] <backtracker> I've already installed Wine
[17:42] <dgjones> !enter | backtracker
[17:42] <wxPython> please answer me one simple yet confusing question to me...
[17:42] <ubotu> backtracker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:42] <scjp_> is there any software to blur the images
[17:42] <bazhang> backtracker: have you checked #winehq or the appdb?
[17:42] <wxPython> what does out-of-the-box mean?
[17:42] <backtracker> bazhang:
[17:42] <backtracker> bazhang: thanks
[17:42] <bazhang> scjp gimp
[17:42] <backtracker> scjp_: gimp
[17:42] <bazhang> wxPython: no config needed
[17:43] <tbwnoob> does anyone know why my fans would stop working on the login screen?
[17:44] <wxPython> http://wubi-installer.org/
[17:44] <kavik> revolving doors?
[17:45] <ynni> what's the name of the bin for wicd? or how do I find out?
[17:45] <MirrorImage> I messed up my resolution badly and I do not know how to fix it : /
[17:45] <wxPython> http://wubi-installer.org/
[17:45] <wxPython> http://wubi-installer.org/
[17:45] <Fryguy--> MirrorImage: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:45] <Tyczek> I've got problem with team speak... I have hda intel card with no hardware mixing... and only TS can works... other applications are muted
[17:46] <Tyczek> or Ts is muted when other application is on (f.e quodlibet)
[17:46] <Flannel> ynni: what package is wicd?
 MirrorImage: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf < Like I know how to do that, I'm not the most proficient at linux
[17:46] <ynni> Flannel, I guess "wicd" :D But I'll look it up
[17:47] <Fryguy--> MirrorImage: just go to /etc/X11 and look at all of the xorg.confs that are there.  Whenever you make a change in the gui it makes a backup of your settings
[17:47] <ynni> yep, it's called "wicd"
[17:47] <Flannel> Tyczek: You might check the forums (ubuntuforums.org) they have lots of teamspeak information
[17:47] <Alyx|lappy> hey via the command line how do i set up my network connection to go through a proxy?
[17:47] <Flannel> ynni: Which version of ubuntu is this?
[17:47] <scjp_> I mean i am talking about there are alot of images with eyes or faces blurred, is there any software to bring it back to orignal pictures
[17:47] <unicum> how do i find out to which directory aptitude installed the java stuff?
[17:47] <Tixer__> I have two network cards, one is eth0 and the other one is a wifi card. How can I control which one a program uses?
[17:47] <Ja1> does anyone know anything about samba?
[17:47] <scjp_> backtracker, I mean i am talking about there are alot of images with eyes or faces blurred, is there any software to bring it back to orignal pictures
[17:48] <bazhang> ja1 likely that would be a 'yes'
[17:48] <meoblast001> how do you change the UID that a device will be mounted under in the fstab?
[17:48] <Tyczek> Flannel, ok
[17:48] <Tixer__> scjp_: Photoshop.
[17:48] <Tixer__> scjp_: GIMP is also good.
[17:48] <Alyx|lappy> hey via the command line how do i set up my network connection to go through a proxy?
[17:48] <MirrorImage> Fryguy--, this probably sounds really stupid but how do I go about gettign there?
[17:48] <kavik> What irc does ubuntu come with?
[17:48] <Fryguy--> MirrorImage: well where are you now?
[17:48] <kavik> also, i was running live cd ubuntu 7.10 and i couldn't connect to my wireless
[17:49] <dadada> i saw aurora borealis just now
[17:49] <MirrorImage> Well right now I'm on my live CD
[17:49] <kavik> i typed in the correct name and passphrase but nothing...
[17:49] <Fryguy--> kavik: there are dozens of irc clients available to install
[17:49] <Flannel> kavik: pidgin (which doesn't count), xchat, irssi are both good
[17:49] <Ja1> bazhang okay well i have set up a server and I can't write to the drive form windows and all of my premissions are set to read and write
[17:49] <minimec> Alyx|lappy: Don't hang me on that, but I guess this would be a iptables rule...
[17:49] <kavik> fryguy; flannel; what about the ubuntu wireless?
[17:50] <Fryguy--> kavik: no idea
[17:50] <Fryguy--> i've used wireless in linux for a grand total of 5 minutes
[17:50] <meoblast001> how do you change the UID that a device will be mounted under in the fstab?
[17:50] <tbwnoob> my computer is sayiong its unable Xauthorization file.
[17:50] <Fryguy--> meoblast001: why do you want to change the uuid of a device
[17:50] <tbwnoob> to run that file
[17:51] <tbwnoob> why cant i run my Xauthorization file?
[17:51] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: /dev/sda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0
[17:51] <meoblast001> Fryguy--: cuz it mounts it as root and i need to use it as a normal user
[17:51] <prince_jammys> not the uuid, the uid
[17:51] <kavik> fryguy did you have to manually type in the ssid or whatever?
[17:51] <Fryguy--> meoblast001: so just add uid=whatever to the options on the fstab line
[17:51] <tbwnoob> my Xauthorization file isnt working please help
[17:51] <Fryguy--> kavik: on the linux setup i was using, and for the purposes I was using it for, I did
[17:52] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: just delete the one that is there and restart X
[17:52] <minimec> Alyx|lappy: Do you speak german?
[17:52] <bazhang> kavik: wireless in the command line? here is a great guide--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[17:52] <tbwnoob> how to i get to it
[17:52] <tbwnoob> to dleeate it
[17:52] <meoblast001> Fryguy--: what would be my uid if i was the first user on the system?
[17:52] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: it's in your home directory
[17:52] <Fryguy--> meoblast001: probably 1000
[17:52] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: likely 1000. type : echo $UID
[17:52] <tbwnoob> ok
[17:52] <Fryguy--> meoblast001: type "id" to check
[17:52] <Ja1> With samba I set up a server.  It shows up in windows and all as a network drive how ever i cant write to it. i think it may be a problem with my users and passwords on samba.  all of my permissions are set to read and write
[17:53] <meoblast001> its 1000
[17:53] <minimec> Would be something like that... iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[17:53] <Ja1> btw i am using SWAT
[17:53] <minimec> Alyx|lappy: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[17:53] <Fryguy--> Ja1: editing smb.conf manually will probably be faster and easier
[17:53] <tbwnoob> i dont see my Xauthorization file in my home directory
[17:53] <patogen> How do I find out which colors I can use with grub's menu.lst?
[17:54] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: it's a hidden file (use ls -a)
[17:54] <smehmood> hey, I have a permissions question: I have two users on my system. one for me (smehmood) and user that will be shared amongst a few people all working on a project together (pmunc). I wanted to store the project files in pmunc
[17:54] <smehmood> home directory, but if I do I don't have access to it (my account)
[17:54] <Ja1> it wont let me edit it it says i dont have premissions to use save to that folder and
[17:54] <meoblast001> Fryguy--: uh oh.... mount: can't find /media/disk in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:54] <smehmood> I know I can change permissions for each file and all that, but how do I make it so by default, new directories have certain permissions?
[17:54] <Fryguy--> smehmood: change the group of the target directory, and then add yourself to that group
[17:54] <DOOM_NX> noob question: in terminal, what command moves u one directory up?
[17:54] <tbwnoob> okay thanks
[17:55] <tbwnoob> terminal
[17:55] <tbwnoob> i dont use terminal when im looking at directorys
[17:55] <murlidhar> oops there is NO jigdo file for hardy heron . Any news when will they release a jigdo file for it.
[17:55] <tbwnoob> prolly .
[17:55] <tbwnoob> .
[17:55] <tbwnoob> i would say
[17:55] <tbwnoob> or /
[17:55] <Fryguy--> smehmood: change your umask in the .rc file for whatever shell you are using
[17:55] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: can you paste the fstab line here
[17:55] <DOOM_NX> cd moves u to home
[17:55] <DOOM_NX> let me try .
[17:56] <bazhang> murlidhar: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:56] <Fryguy--> DOOM_NX: cd ..
[17:56] <Ja1> Fryguy--: it wont let me edit it it says i dont have premissions to use save to that folder and
[17:56] <thesurvivorman> cd ..
[17:56] <Fryguy--> Ja1: so then become root and edit it
[17:56] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: /dev/sdb1       /media/disk   /mnt/windows    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0
[17:56] <murlidhar> bazhang, oh i forgot, thanks
[17:56] <Ja1> how do i edit when i am not in x
[17:56] <kavik> bazhang hey it's bazhang! lol
[17:56] <DOOM_NX> Fryguy--, u're right... i was using "cd.."
[17:56] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: what i pasted was just an example. get rid of /mnt/windows
[17:56] <Fryguy--> use a command line text editor such as emacs or vim or nano or pico or do it hardcore with cat or whatever you want
[17:56] <tbwnoob> how do you reply with there name beside it
[17:56] <kavik> bazhang, i couldn't connect to my wireless.. i typed in the right name for it and pass but it never worked.
[17:57] <kavik> tbwnoob, huh?
[17:57] <Ja1> i am happy with swat
[17:57] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: k lol i was wondering about that
[17:57] <Titan> hi buntu nubs I just switched from fedora and I am having problems updating anything ... http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5895/omgtv7.png
[17:57] <Ja1> i will just keep that
[17:57] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: you type in their name lol
[17:57] <bazhang> kavik: using the gui or the cli?
[17:57] <tbwnoob> ohh
[17:57] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: it's ntfs that you're mounting, correct?
[17:57] <kavik> bazhang, i think the gui.... whatever's on the downloadable .iso
[17:57] <kavik> bazhang for ubuntu 7.10
[17:57] <Fryguy--> tbwnoob: and make plenty of use of tab-complete
[17:57] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: no its vfat
[17:57] <bazhang> kavik they both are
[17:58] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: so what do i have to change to what
[17:58] <Ja1>      =-O
[17:58] <kavik> bazhang.. well.. i guess i'm in a pickle...
[17:58] <kavik> bazhang, gui = general user interface, correct?
[17:58] <tbwnoob> lol
[17:58] <bazhang> kavik: did you read that link?
[17:58] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: /dev/sdb1       /media/disk      vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007     0       0
[17:58] <Ja1> graphical user interface
[17:58] <Titan> anyone seen my screenshot? why isn't my nix kernel being updated properly :(
[17:58] <legend2440> tbwnoob: type first few letters of nickname and press Tab key to autocomplete name
[17:58] <kavik> bazhang not yet, i'm hopping back and forth from #windows and #ubuntu
[17:59] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all. is there a way i can run my windows installation in vmware?
[17:59] <minimec> Titan: Try with a sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update
[17:59] <tapas> ok, i have a hardy beta cd here to rescue my system ;)
[17:59] <elm1> stefano: thanks man
[17:59] <kavik> oops
[17:59] <tapas> i need to somehow get cryptsetup ;)
[17:59] <Titan> minimec tyvm ill give that a try
[17:59] <kavik> bazhang did you send me anything? i accidentally closed out
[17:59] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: you can change the umask, depending on the permissions you want
[17:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 kavik
[17:59] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: good news and bad news
[18:00] <Fryguy--> CorruptTerrorist: sure, i'd recommend checking out virtualbox first though, it's much better for the consumer desktop market than vmware is imo
[18:00] <tapas> ah just neded to update sources
[18:00] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: but you have to replace ntfs with vfat
[18:00] <Ja1> can someone help me with samba user and premissions
[18:00] <hyw> hi
[18:00] <CorruptTerrorist> how about the other way around Fryguy-- ?
[18:00] <CorruptTerrorist> run my ubuntu in windows
[18:00] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: when i run sudo mount /dev/sdb1 it mounts it as my non-root user..... but when i first plug the device in, it promps me that i do not have permission to mount it
[18:00] <Fryguy--> Ja1: there are tons of resources on the internet for administering a samba installation, go view those resources.  This isn't a samba help channel
[18:00] <Fryguy--> CorruptTerrorist: what?
[18:01] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: ah, it's an external drive
[18:01] <elm1> ive BEEN having a problem with my USB, it works whenever it feels like, when i plug something in, either a flash drive or lone of my externals, sometimes it picks up, other times its like there arent any USB ports on my machine, lsusb, returns nttn in these  cases, blkid returns nothing 2, any thoughts?
[18:01] <Dex-Freudii> anybody using hereon alpha 6?
[18:01] <LjL> !hardy > Dex-Freudii    (Dex-Freudii, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:01] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: its an ipod shuffle
[18:01] <Fryguy--> Dex-Freudii: wrong channel, join #ubuntu+1 for next release information
[18:01] <Dex-Freudii> oki
[18:01] <CorruptTerrorist> Fryguy--, can i run my ubuntu installation via windows?
[18:01] <kavik> bazhang, thanks i'll try that.
[18:02] <Fryguy--> CorruptTerrorist: inside a virtual machine? sure
[18:02] <Ja1> n someone help me with samba user and premissions
[18:02] <elm1> ive BEEN having a problem with my USB, it works whenever it feels like, when i plug something in, either a flash drive or lone of my externals, sometimes it picks up, other times its like there arent any USB ports on my machine, lsusb, returns nttn in these  cases, blkid returns nothing 2, any thoughts?
[18:02] <Fryguy--> Ja1: this isn't a samba support channel, either look up the hundreds of resources on google, or try a more samba central channel
[18:02] <hyw> Can anyone help? trying to install ubuntu, just loaded the cd and got the list start install check cd for defects I chose start then weird colors started appearing and blue red green vertical lines any idea what this means?
[18:02] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: and im starting to get pissed that everytime i do something to it on rhythmbox, it changes but then comes back  to what it orriginally had when i reopen rhythmbox
[18:02] <Titan> what's faster for a server fedora or buntu
[18:02] <Fryguy--> elm1: stop repeating huge paragraphs, if somebody knows the answer they will answer you
[18:02] <LjL> Titan: won't make a difference.
[18:02] <minimec> Titan: Debian ;)
[18:02] <Fryguy--> Titan: they are both pretty awful for server use in my opinion
[18:03] <Titan> yeah but i don't like the looks of centos
[18:03] <LjL> !ot
[18:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:03] <Titan> I've used debain its very stable
[18:03] <Fryguy--> hyw: try selecting the safe graphics mode option
[18:03] <Fryguy--> Titan: there are plenty of other distributions available.  I personally run freebsd on my servers at home
[18:04] <kavik> bazhang, think you can solve this? when i put the live cd in my other computer (with a blank hdd to install to) the live cd worked at the beginning, however after about 2 minutes it seemed like it was running with the processor speed of a.. well.. something not good. it lagged for 1-2 minutes between anything. i couldn't move the mouse, then it would lagg for 1-2 minutes then the mouse would move. so it was impossible to install ubuntu onto 
[18:04] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: i'm looking up exactly how it's done with an ipod
[18:04] <hyw> Fryguy--: ok I'll try that, thanks
[18:04] <Fryguy--> kavik: you are running it off of a CD, what type of performance are you expecting?
[18:04] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: i keep getting permission denied stuff
[18:04] <meoblast001> im mounting to my home folder
[18:05] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: try changing the umask to 000
[18:05] <kavik> fryguy, well if i put the cd in my friend's laptop and run it, it runs just fine. not too far from perfect
[18:05] <meoblast001> k
[18:05] <bazhang> kavik: sounds like a bad burn of that iso; perhaps burn a lower speed and check the md5 to make sure the iso is not corrupt
[18:05] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: i remember d oing that when i had a sansa
[18:05] <kavik> bazhang, well the cd it was running off of i ordered from ubuntu
[18:05] <bazhang> kavik: what system specs, ram cpu etc
[18:05] <kavik> bazhang, but perhaps i will try again, with another cd that i just made
[18:05] <Nitroray> Hello all, i have this question: I have Ubuntu installed on drive D: and Windows XP on drive C:, now i re-installed XP on drive C: but it also removed the Boot-Loader, Someone knows a command so i can install the bootloader again?? Thanks :D
[18:05] <pokethesmot> ..has there been any remedy to integral nvidia chips on 64bit machines that address having no visable mouse pointer?
[18:06] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: check this out, there's an fstab sample and a guide: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[18:06] <SliMM> my computer doesn't resume from hibernating
[18:06] <elm1> any1, the usb issue??, anyone??, ill repost the question, any1??
[18:06] <Flannel> !grub | Nitroray
[18:06] <ubotu> Nitroray: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:06] <Flannel> Nitroray: first link
[18:06] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows Nitroray
[18:06] <bazhang> oops
[18:06] <Fryguy--> Nitroray: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[18:06] <minimec> Nitroray: There is a software called supergrub.
[18:06] <Nitroray> Flannel: I heard that Lilo is better..
[18:06] <SliMM> meoblast001: also, consider rockbox
[18:06] <kavik> bazhang, i don't remember right off the top but i remember at minimum 512MB, dual core? used to be an old windows xp computer that my friend gave me. he primarily used it for WoW
[18:07] <Nitroray> Flannel: Sorry it was Grub :$
[18:07] <meoblast001> permissions denied
[18:07] <meoblast001> yay
[18:07] <meoblast001> can you rockbox a fourth generation shuffle?
[18:07] <Nitroray> Fryguy--:  Thank you very much
[18:07] <bazhang> kavik: well that low amount of ram would be a possible cause of slow boot up
[18:07] <ompaul> elm1, I point the finger at your hardware, please plug your device into a different socket
[18:07] <LjL> http://www.letsallexplaintonitroray.it/precisely/about/getting/grub/on/the/mbr/again/after/windows/has/been/a/bad/bot.html
[18:07] <Fryguy--> Nitroray: btw, google next time :)
[18:07] <MakotoTheKnight> Here's a strange problem:  After about 25-30 minutes of running, my laptop will hard lock.  Temperatures were at about 55-57C when this happened, and it's gone a lot higher before. Anyone got any tips?
[18:07] <bazhang> LjL: haha
[18:07] <kavik> ljl bad link
[18:07] <Nitroray> Fryguy--:  Im running from Live CD now, not handy to google ;)
[18:07] <LjL> kavik: really?
[18:07] <elm1> ompaul: no go there, it doesnt discriminate where hardware is concerned
[18:07] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: check that link, it should help
[18:08] <kavik> ljl i accidentally clicked it and it said page not found
[18:08] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: k
[18:08] <LjL> kavik: must be a bad link then yes
[18:08] <Fryguy--> Nitroray: why not?
[18:08] <elm1> it cud b anything, it either works or doesnt work, its not a specific hardware problem
[18:08] <pokethesmot> ..has there been any remedy to integral nvidia chips on 64bit machines that address having no visable mouse pointer?
[18:08] <dma315> Hey, my friend is working on installing Xubuntu on a Powerbook G3 and he is wondering how to boot the Live CD from an external USB CD drive. Can anybody help?
[18:08] <kavik> ljl lol just givin you heads up
[18:08] <ompaul> elm1, then your hardware has an issue - hald only creates a device when something wants it - lsusb might be more useful to you but frankly moving the device around is the best way I have found nothing else is useful
[18:08] <xq> dma315: Does his BIOS support it?
[18:09] <tux97> hi i can't seem to browse my network any ideas or help?
[18:09] <xq> tux97: What is your "network" -- Windows? ;-)
[18:09] <Fryguy--> tux97: that's awfully vague
[18:09] <xq> Fryguy--: hehe
[18:09] <tux97> xq its on ubuntu
[18:09] <MM2> how stable is Hardy Heron A6?
[18:09] <dma315> xq: when I boot up the computer, it recognizes the drive and CD inside but boots to open firmware screen
[18:09] <Fryguy--> MM2: wrong channel
[18:09] <xq> tux97: WiFi, same router, all wired...all computers on the same router? What is your setup?
[18:09] <LjL> MM2: not very, anyway ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <Nitroray> grub> root (hd0,0)
[18:09] <Nitroray> grub> setup (hd0)
[18:09] <Nitroray> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[18:09] <ompaul> tux97, and from where do you want to browse it?
[18:09] <Fryguy--> MM2: join #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[18:10] <MM2> ty
[18:10] <tux97> on my laptop wifi
[18:10] <lastelement0> hi all im running diablo II in windowed mode and whenever i click out of the window the game minimizes and when i maximize it again, the keyboard doesn't function
[18:10] <ompaul> tux97, operating system of that laptop
[18:10] <elm1> ompaul: hm, arite i hear u, im runnin gutsy on a hp pavilion notebook
[18:10] <tux97> ubuntu as well
[18:10] <pokethesmot> ..has there been any remedy to integral nvidia chips on 64bit machines that address having no visable mouse pointer?
[18:10] <xq> tux97: Where are you trying to browse it from? Are both PCs on the same router and connected currently (check the router...).
[18:10] <rinaldi_> Hi I changed the login screen earlier as I don't really like the mythbuntu one that installed over my default one a while ago. Now when I turn my computer on it can take up to 5-10 mins to get to the login screen. This happens with both my comps
[18:10] <tux97> everythings fine
[18:10] <ompaul> tux97, so when you say browser can you be more precise?
[18:10] <tux97> expect this ubuntu laptop
[18:10] <pokethesmot> ..has there been any remedy to integral nvidia chips on 64bit machines that address having no visable mouse pointer?
[18:11] <DOOM_NX> guys
[18:11] <tux97> ok when i click on my netweork it times out
[18:11] <xq> tux97: Then the networking is not setup properly on the Ubuntu Laptop. But where are you trying to browse from (again)?
[18:11] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: it says i can create and delete files but not read and write them
[18:11] <Nitroray> LjL: grub> root (hd0,0)
[18:11] <Nitroray> grub> setup (hd0)
[18:11] <Nitroray> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[18:11] <DOOM_NX> in terminal, how do i play dvd directory (VIDEO_TS) that's stored in the hard drive with mplayer?
[18:11] <ompaul> !nickspam > Wanderer
[18:11] <tux97> places then network
[18:11] <Fryguy--> pokethesmot: there are no issues that i'm aware of with what you are talking about.  Care to be a bit more specific, or link to the bugtracker to refer to the 'bug' you are talking about? and if not, post the bug to bugtracker so it can be taken care of if it is actually a bug
[18:11] <Fryguy--> DOOM_NX: wrong channel
[18:12] <DOOM_NX> lol ok
[18:12] <pokethesmot> Fryguy-- sure
[18:12] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: and ipods need to edit this one file constantly when adding or deleteing songs
[18:12] <DOOM_NX> what's the right one?
[18:12] <LjL> Nitroray, it's possibly not (hd0,0) then in your case
[18:12] <Fryguy--> #google, or #mplayer
[18:12] <Nitroray> LjL: What to do now ?
[18:12] <xq> tux97: Is the network configured right (just like the other computers, mainly)?
[18:12] <elm1> Nitoray : find root (hd0,
[18:12] <amenado> Nitroray-> before you issue  root (hd0,0)   try to  find /boot/grub/menu.lst  and lets see if it tells you anything
[18:12] <anton53> find this to fix grub  or lost grubs supergrubdisk_0.9677.iso
[18:12] <xq> tux97: Do the other PCs see the laptop and able to browse it?
[18:12] <lastelement0> hi all im running diablo II in windowed mode and whenever i click out of the window the game minimizes and when i maximize it again, the keyboard doesn't function
[18:12] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> how to set the requires for checkinstall?
[18:13] <branstrom> Can testdisk run on a disk image?
[18:13] <Fryguy--> lastelement0: wrong channel, join wine's channel and ask about it there
[18:13] <LjL> Nitroray: well try « find /boot/grub/stage1 »
[18:13] <xq> tux97: Perhaps the other PCs are not configured correctly to allow the laptop to browse them remotely (permissions)? There could be a few factors at play. I would check all of this out.
[18:13] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: what's the output of:  ls -ld  /media/disk    (or whatever the mount point is)
[18:13] <tux97> well i installed ndiswrapper for my wifi driver and probally that has something to do with it i guess
[18:13] <LjL> branstrom: don't see why not
[18:13] <lastelement0> Fryguy--: i did but no one is active in there
[18:13] <tux97> my laptop works fine with vista
[18:13] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> when i run checkinstall the requires listed is not right but i couldn't change it
[18:13] <branstrom> LjL: do you know how I make it act on an image, maybe? I can't see how
[18:13] <Fryguy--> lastelement0: so you just started joining other channels and asking offtopic questions there?
[18:13] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: dr-xr-x--- 3 braden braden 4096 1969-12-31 19:00 /media/disk
[18:14] <lastelement0> Fryguy--: its not offtopic if it is an issue running something in UBUNTU
[18:14] <Nitroray> amenado: cannot find: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:14] <tux97> it just has to be my wifi
[18:14] <Fryguy--> lastelement0: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:14] <PMantis> I want to create a DEB package of 3-4 files, but all the howto's talk about tarred up source code, compiling, etc. Where's a *simple* howto for my needs?
[18:14] <xq> tux97: I doubt it hehe
[18:14] <xq> tux97: Not if WiFi is working
[18:14] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: what is the output of:  grep media/disk /etc/fstab
[18:14] <amenado> Nitroray-> what about those other  find  xxxx  that others suggested? you get any feedback?
[18:14] <lastelement0> Fryguy--: would you like to enlighten me with the issue instead of being condescending?
[18:14] <Fryguy--> PMantis: what do you want to create a .deb file for
[18:14] <LjL> branstrom: uhm you're right it's kind of stubborn about using a real disk
[18:15] <xq> tux97: Double check the networking configuration and permissions on the other PCs
[18:15] <tux97> well it works fine with wifi on vista but not on here
[18:15] <branstrom> LjL: yeah... :/
[18:15] <Fryguy--> lastelement0: your issue is with wine, not ubuntu
[18:15] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: nothing
[18:15] <Nitroray> amenado: What do you mean?
[18:15] <xq> tux97: Perhaps plug it in via ethernet and see if it is still an issue?
[18:15] <tux97> everything is fine xq
[18:15] <LjL> branstrom: could try loopmounting perhaps
[18:15] <amenado> Nitroray-> others have suggested find xxx  where xxxx is something  scroll back up..
[18:15] <tux97> ok i was going to do that if it works then its the wifi
[18:15] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: i'm stuck.  it's mounted on /media/disk, right?
[18:15] <xq> tux97: Correct ;-)
[18:16] <meoblast001> i think
[18:16] <LjL> branstrom: that's if it looks at which drives are mounted... but then again it shouldn't do that
[18:16] <branstrom> LjL: to trick it into believing it's a real disk? How do I do that?
[18:16] <lastelement0> fryguy--: well im sure im not the only one is this chat that uses wine so this seems like a logical place to go if the wine room has no one active
[18:16] <meoblast001> wth
[18:16] <meoblast001> it remounted it to /media/1
[18:16] <anton53> tux97: also make sure you have shares orshared files setup on other computers
[18:16] <PMantis> Fryguy--: To distribute a handful of scripts to my clients' servers with the ability to update them with apt when I update the scripts.
[18:16] <Nitroray> LjL: You have suggested to find: /boot/grub/stage1 but its not find-able
[18:16] <LjL> !mountiso > branstrom    (branstrom, see the private message from Ubotu)   like this, but to be honest i doubt it would work
[18:16] <rinaldi_> Hi I changed the login screen earlier as I don't really like the mythbuntu one that installed over my default one a while ago. Now when I turn my computer on it can take up to 5-10 mins to load the login screen. Just sits there with a spinning loading pointer. This happens with both my comps I've tried.
[18:16] <prince_jammys> !ipod
[18:16] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:16] <Fryguy--> lastelement0: you probably are one of the only people in this channel that use wine, and you are almost certainly the only person in this channel who runs diablo in wine AND has this issue.  Go ask your question in a more appropriate location. thank you.
[18:16] <xq> LjL: Doubt that will work
[18:16] <branstrom> LjL: hm :/ Thanks anyways...
[18:17] <bazhang> lastelement0: you should check the appdb really
[18:17] <PMantis> Fryguy--: I hate having to scp the scripts to each server when I update them, and have to remember which one I udated, etc.
[18:17] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: so for the ls-ld /media/1 it returned "drwx------ 4 braden root 4096 2008-03-16 14:11 /media/1"
[18:17] <WildChild7> will ubuntu automatically recognize RAM if I put it in my computer ?
[18:17] <Fryguy--> WildChild7: yes
[18:17] <amenado> Nitroray-> that indicates those required files are not in the area where they normally should be,  so youmay have to re-install or find them on your hd and put them there
[18:17] <WildChild7> Fryguy--: kewl
[18:17] <LjL> branstrom, xq: then again, even uglier, you could try hardlinking your image into /dev/hdsomething - since when dumping the testdisk binary, i see there are hardcoded references to /dev/hd*
[18:17] <MakotoTheKnight> Here's a strange problem:  After about 25-30 minutes of running, my laptop will hard lock.  Temperatures were at about 55-57C when this happened, and it's gone a lot higher before. Anyone got any tips?
[18:18] <Nitroray> amenado:  Is there a command in terminal so i ca re-install grub ?
[18:18] <myusername> does anybody know when dreamlinux 3 is supposed to be out? there currently still in rc3
[18:18] <lastelement0> bazhang: its not an issue with the game not running. it runs its a matter of running in windowed mode then clicking out of screen
[18:18] <Fryguy--> Nitroray: i already linked you to information about how to do that
[18:18] <branstrom> PMantis: you could use Git to distribute scripts or whatever, like that, it's very smooth
[18:18] <Nitroray> Fryguy--: Yes, but it gave an eroor
[18:18] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: i don't know. initially i thought you were just mounting a normal drive. i don't know what the story is with ipods. i didn't think you'd have to configure anything
[18:18] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lastelement0, wine is not supported in this channel
[18:19] <amenado> Nitroray-> yes   grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sdaX   assuming /dev/sdaX is where your vmlinuz and initrd-img are
[18:19] <branstrom> LjL: thanks - I'll try that in a while...
[18:19] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: well i just need the device to have permission to write to files now, it can already create and delete them
[18:19] <Fryguy--> Nitroray: so then fix the error. the tutorial is right, you just have a different hardware setup than it is expecting.  asking somebody else to help you reinstall grub isn't going to get you a different answer, you'll have to figure out how grub is expecting to address your hard drive (since you apparently have more than one)
[18:19] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lastelement0, ur problem is either with wine or the game, and neither or them are supported here
[18:19] <bazhang> lastelement0: well the #winehq is expert at that; you can hang around here and hope that someone else has the precise issue if you wish
[18:19] <LjL> !info gpart | branstrom, or you could investigate this alternative
[18:19] <ubotu> branstrom, or you could investigate this alternative: gpart (source: gpart): Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (gutsy), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[18:19] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: creating a deleting is writing.
[18:19] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: if you can create and delete, you can write
[18:20] <LjL> Nitroray: do you know what your disk is usually called, like /dev/hda?
[18:20] <PMantis> branstrom: Thanks, but I think I'd rather use a system that's already there, looking for updates: apt
[18:20] <branstrom> LjL: wow, thanks... I had thought testdisk was my only hope
[18:20] <Fireball> how do I install resolvconf on an ubuntu 6 LTS ?
[18:20] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: i just created a file a while ago, but it complains it cant change some funky iTunes control file
[18:20] <lastelement0> bazhang: hang around for no one to answer...been there done that
[18:20] <Fireball> "apt-get install resolvconf" says  "Package resolvconf has no isntallation candidate"
[18:20] <amenado> Fryguy---> i know you meant well, sometimes in the frantic search of clarifications users do get confused, a lil more guiding i think would help..like how to determine the name of their partitions..you know what i meant..
[18:20] <branstrom> PMantis: with Git you can easily keep track of differences too
[18:21] <Fryguy--> Fireball: resolv.conf is a file located in /etc that contains dns information, what exactly are you talking about
[18:21] <brobostigon> Fireball: resolv.conf is a file in /etc
[18:21] <Fireball> it seems to not be installed in an ubuntu 6 lts default install
[18:21] <bazhang> lastelement0: well no real other suggestions; I dont use wine or diablo so that is my best sorry not help out
[18:21] <Fryguy--> Fireball: it is
[18:21] <Flannel> Fireball: no e.  resolvconf
[18:21] <branstrom> I've been toying with the idea myself, that's why I suggested it, but you're free to use apt if you want
[18:21] <brobostigon> Fireball: /etc/resolv.conf
[18:22] <Flannel> Fireball: oh.  You did that.  You need to enable universe.
[18:22] <branstrom> you have free will and all that :)
[18:22] <PMantis> branstrom: But it's another tool I'd have to run to check for updates on each server I'm maintaining for clients. If I use a deb package, then the updates for my script would show up automatically in the apt updates lists that I'm already reporting on.
[18:22] <unstable> I have two printer jobs I accidentally sent to the wrong printer, and I can't get these documents again.
[18:23] <Fireball> hm, yes
[18:23] <Fireball> /etc/resolv.conf exists, but is empty
[18:23] <branstrom> Yeah and if you don't need to keep track of possible local differences, if they're all just the same all the time, then that's probably the way to go...
[18:23] <unstable> they're in my print queue, since this printer isn't on the network, how can I redirect these jobs somewhere else?
[18:23] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: i think i got it to work!!!!!
[18:23] <Fireball> anyway, my problem is that DNS is not working, but server itself is pingable, remotely-accessible, etc
[18:23] <Fryguy--> Fireball: then configuring your network failed, just put 1 or 2 dns servers in there, 1 per line
[18:23] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: cool.
[18:23] <PMantis> branstrom: Although it may come in handy for another project in the future.
[18:24] <Fireball> Fryguy-- - will try, thank you
[18:24] <Fryguy--> man i have spent way too much time in here over the past day or so :(  i really should go and get some meaningful work done :(
[18:24] <constrictor> how do i get tracker to index thunderbird mail? the option is greyed out in indexing preferences
[18:25] <Fireball> Fryguy-- - fantastic, works
[18:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ls
[18:25] <meoblast001> prince_jammys: i had /media/iPod in the fstab but i didnt have a folder /media/iPod on my filesystemm
[18:25] <Fryguy--> i've always wondered why it's resolv.conf and not resolve.conf
[18:25] <prince_jammys> meoblast001: ah
[18:26] <Doonz> YAY ME!!!
[18:26]  * Doonz is a linux noobie
[18:26] <Doonz> got a quick question can someone recomend me a program to print cd labels with?
[18:26] <Fireball> thanks
[18:27] <rsk> Doonz: firefox gimp etc etc
[18:28] <brobostigon> rsk: how is firefox ment to print cd labels??
[18:28] <rsk> brobostigon: ctrl+p :)?
[18:28] <Doonz> yeah kinda confused
[18:28] <legend2440> Doonz: glabels in synaptic is pretty good
[18:28] <Doonz> thank you
[18:29] <nagyv> hi! could someone help me to set up my microphone? I have a webcam with a built-in mic that is connected on USB, plus I have a "normal" microphone input where I can plug in a classic headset. The volume controller recognises both of them, but I don't know how to make one of them default, and seemingly besides Skype nothing sees my webcam-mic, and in general I was unable to record any sound with them. (I've tried voxforge and the sound re
[18:29] <obsethryl> to whom it may concern: CTCPing all the time is rude
[18:29] <nixnoob> anyone know if nvidia fixed the hdmi audio problem in their latest driver?
[18:30] <nagyv> And the mute icons are different for the two mics. Both have the usual muth the speaker icon, but only the webcam has a microphone icon as well.
[18:30] <jin> I have some fonts , ,ttf files, how do I install them?
[18:30] <prince_jammys> !fonts | jin
[18:30] <ubotu> jin: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[18:30] <branstrom> jin: copy to ~/.fonts/
[18:31] <sFEARs> !clone
[18:31] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[18:31] <bitosh> omfg
[18:32] <brobostigon> bitosh: what does omfg mean??
[18:32] <prince_jammys> oh my f---- god
[18:32] <bitosh> it means oh my fuckin god
[18:32] <brobostigon> ok
[18:32] <anton53> lol
[18:32] <bazhang> !ohmy
[18:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:33] <Doonz> wow ubuntu sure has come along way
[18:33] <bitosh> %)
[18:33] <jpatrick> !lol
[18:33] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[18:35] <BulgTech> hello
[18:35] <menllyos> anyone know of a program that can be used to securely wipe a hdd ?
[18:36] <BulgTech> I'm trying to configure a bcom wireless card under edgy 6.10
[18:36] <legend2440> menllyos: wipe
[18:36] <BulgTech> I've installed ndiswrapper and the card is running
[18:36] <bitosh> Pgpwipe
[18:36] <bitosh> gpgwipe?
[18:36] <BulgTech> but there is no automatic network search, it seems like I need to do it all manually using iwlist, iwconfig, etc.
[18:36] <Flannel> menllyos: shred (its already installed)
[18:37] <menllyos> ok thanks for the suggestions
[18:37] <TimeFX> I ve been trying for the last two days to get Ubuntu to work with my VPN connection to the internet, I normally use it on Windows XP by having an initial connection which is to my ISPs network and I have to input a static IP, netmask, and gateway and then I setup a VPN connection over PPTP to the VPN server but I cant get any of the VPN clients to work in Ubuntu if I use NetworkManager to setup the initial IP for the basic connection to the ISP, what am I 
[18:37] <gtt> how do i enable X11 forwarding to be default so I can just type 'ssh username@place'
[18:38] <shea|up> well that's what i get from switching my actiontec to a linksys. :|
[18:38] <shea|up> good thing that happened
[18:38] <Sinnerman> how do i get ntfs support for parted/gparted? i want it to be able to create a ntfs filesystem on one of my devices.
[18:38] <brobostigon> gtt: so you would notmall type, ssh -X "IP"
[18:39] <Sinnerman> if i remember correctly, the gparted on the livecd has that support, but when installed on a hard disk, does not.
[18:39] <gtt> brobostigon: yeah, i have to use the -X now, but i was wanting to make -X "default".. is there a way to do that, and if so, how?
[18:39] <erUSUL> Sinnerman: probably you need to install ntfsprogs
[18:39] <brobostigon> gtt: i dont think that possible, you will still hve to, ssh -X IP
[18:39] <moop> anyone happen to be an expert at running steam/source with wine?
[18:39] <billeniu1> hey
[18:40] <soldats> gtt: if you only use ssh with x forwarding you can make an alias in basrc so everytime you type ssh it actually does ssh -X
[18:40] <billeniu1> How do i change the splash screen?
[18:40] <erUSUL> !splash
[18:40] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[18:40] <gtt> soldats: hey, thanks, there's at least one solution I hadn't considered.
[18:40] <billeniu1> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[18:40] <Fryguy--> Sinnerman: gparted is for creating partitions, not filesystems
[18:40] <aredhel> gtt, edit ~/.ssh/config
[18:41] <BulgTech> I'm trying to get a wireless connection running in 6.10, but scanning doesn't seem to work
[18:41] <Sinnerman> Fryguy--: fair enough, but it does offer a frontend for such, doesnt it?
[18:41] <Sinnerman> erUSUL: yeah i think that was it, thanks.
[18:41] <erUSUL> Sinnerman: no problem
[18:41] <Fryguy--> Sinnerman: I dunno, i only use tools for what they are designed to do
[18:42] <gtt> aredhel: i saw some options in there, but when i uncommented them, it didn't seem to help.. since that's for the client, i shouldn't have to reload anything, right?
[18:42] <jay__> i have a toshiba satellite with ubuntu 7.10 i cant get a wireless connection setup
[18:42] <soldats> the options in the ssh config are for the forwarding of X not to make it do what you want gtt
[18:43] <billy___> hello
[18:43] <gtt> ok.. so what do i put in ssh config to enable X11 forwarding as default?
[18:43] <gtt> or got a link to the manual?
[18:43] <soldats> gtt: id suggest making an alias in .bashrc for ssh to be ssh -X, and in the config file you should uncomment the X11Forewarding yes
[18:43] <brobostigon> gtt: man ssh
[18:44] <aredhel> gtt,  you need to set ForwardX11 and ForwardX11Trusted, I think, read "man ssh_config"
[18:44] <ps3> hi
[18:44] <ps3> how can i disable preload in kubuntu ?
[18:44] <billy___> im running ubuntu 7.10 64bit from a livecd. I need to install the firmware for bcm4311, i used ndiswrapper but when i do dmesg in terminal i get a bunch of errors saying that the bcm43xx_microcode5.fw file is missing
[18:44] <billy___> what do i do?
[18:45] <Quicksilva> can someone tell me how to check in terminal what my current monitor refresh rate is
[18:45] <gtt> aredhel: editing ssh config helped the way i wanted it to
[18:45] <gtt> thanks :)
[18:45] <billy___> anyone?
[18:46] <jin> Can you hide the System tab on the top of teh screen?
[18:46] <soldats> Quicksilva: is it a desktop
[18:46] <Quicksilva> soldats, yes
[18:46] <gtt> i'd forgot to change "no" to "yes" after uncommenting the line.
[18:47] <jin> any one knows what file manager this guy is using? http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/74553-1.jpg
[18:47] <soldats> Quicksilva: do you have some buttons on the monitor to adjust screen size and what not. if so most times theres a button to show the options for your onitor which shows you the refresh rates
[18:47] <billeniu1> How do i open gnome splash screen manager?
[18:47] <moop> When I right click on Steam.exe and hit "Run with Windows Emulator" I get an error saying "Steam.exe (main exception): Cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): Failed to open file".
[18:47] <Quicksilva> ahhh yeah soldats showing 75hz on there :P
[18:48] <soldats> cool
[18:48] <moop> How might I go about getting around this/fixing this?
[18:48] <Quicksilva> easier than i though, cheers for help :)
[18:48] <soldats> :)
[18:48] <billy___> can anyone help me with making my bcm4311 work?
[18:48] <Black_Magic> Anyone know how to get a Sprint Mobile Broadband Card to work in Ubuntu??
[18:50] <gtt> billy___: which distro? feisty and higher you should just be able to use the restricted drivers
[18:50] <BulgTech> can someone recommend a wireless network switching gui for edgy 6.10
[18:50] <ge> hey, how do i find out which version of ubuntu i am using?
[18:50] <billy___> gtt: i cant find the fwcutter file i need
[18:50] <StevenX> Hello all. I have a HP Pavilion Laptop dv6780se. I tried the livecd of Unix to see if I would run into any problems, and I can't seem to get the sound to work. Is this due to the fact that I'm using a liveCD? Will this be fixed if I install to HDD. Here is the link to the laptop's specs. I don't see what kind of sound card it uses. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01296383&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=3647006&dlc=en
[18:50] <billy___> or whatever
[18:50] <T0paz> ge, System->About Ubuntu?
[18:50] <Flare183> billy___: you mean for the a broadcom wireless card?
[18:51] <ge> T0paz: i mainly use the shell, not very fond with gnome. is there a shell command?
[18:51] <billy___> flare:yea...
[18:51] <Flare183> billy___: one sec I'll give you the link fo rit
[18:51] <Flare183> for it*
[18:51] <billy___> flare: stupid bcm.. ive been tryin to get this to work for more than a month..
[18:52] <erUSUL> !broadcom | billy___
[18:52] <ubotu> billy___: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[18:52] <Flare183> billy___: yeah I know i had the same problem
[18:52] <ge> T0paz: the system->about ubuntu thing started some application called "yelp", it says "welcome to ubuntu" and stuff, but not which version im using.
[18:52] <billy___> erUSUL: ive read that thing millions of times.. no help
[18:52] <billy___> Flare: did you ever get it to work?
[18:52] <Flare183> yes
[18:52] <billy___> Flare: what did you use?
[18:53] <billy___> flare: u runnin 64bit?
[18:53] <Flare183> billy___: http://www.mediafire.com/?dwwjnmo2w2t
[18:53] <T0paz> ge, hmm, /etc/debian_version is probably informative, but i'm not sure what translates to what
[18:53] <Flare183> billy___: no 32-bit
[18:53] <billy___> flare: i think there's issues with 64 bit
[18:53] <Flare183> billy___: but you can still get it work if you have 64-bit
[18:53] <Flare183> billy___: i don't know
[18:53] <ge> T0paz: hmm.. it says "testing/unstable".
[18:53] <billy___> flare: yeah, i hope so.. i had it working for a while but then it stopped working out of nowhere..
[18:54] <T0paz> mine says lenny/sid, and i'm running hardy alpha, heh
[18:54] <Flare183> billy___: yeah I understand
[18:54] <crashhandler> how to automount ntfs partition on startup?i run xubuntu,
[18:54] <jin> Krusader
[18:54] <jin> how do you change the default ubuntu icon of the application menu on the top of the screen?
[18:55] <ge> jin: i thing "right-click" and then choose a symbol.
[18:55] <Cpudan80> no that icon is a pain to change
[18:55] <Cpudan80> it's not simple
[18:56] <jin> Cpudan80: do you know how?
[18:56] <ge> T0paz: `cat /etc/lsb-release` seems to be it!
[18:56] <T0paz> aha
[18:56] <jin> I know it is some file I have to replace, but dunno what file
[18:56] <T0paz> ah yes
[18:56] <nagyv> !ppa
[18:56] <ubotu> With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[18:56] <Lagg> IIRC you have to find a file an replace it with the image you want.
[18:56] <Cpudan80> jin: Yeah it's some file you have to replace in /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome I think
[18:57] <ge> jin: right clicking the symbol does not bring up a dialog?
[18:57] <jin> ge, yea, but no option for changing the icon
[18:57] <shadowhywind> minimec: you still around?
[18:58] <minimec> shadowhywind: yep
[18:58] <ge> jin: which ubuntu version?
[18:58] <jin> found it. it is /usr/share/icons/Human/24x24/places/distributor-logo.png
[18:58] <jin> 7.10
[18:58] <Lagg> that sounds about like it
[18:58] <aredhel> gtt, A Final word about ForwardX11, it does more or less let who ever has root on the remote box, have full control of your local computer, so it's better to enable it on a per host basis.
[18:58] <shadowhywind> minimec: I pulled out a copy of feisty that i have installed on a removeable hdd. My mouse works... hehe
[18:59] <StevenX> can anyone help me with my q?
[18:59] <minimec> shadowhywind: ok ;) Have a look at that imwheel software. Very nice...
[18:59] <shadowhywind> know of any good config sites, to help configure imwheel?
[18:59] <mikebot> Slart: Hey, are you here?
[19:00] <Leetbumble> whats the issue StevenX?
[19:00] <Lagg> I think it's sound with the LiveCD
[19:00] <Thutti> Hello, I need some help; My Internal Speakers are not muted when headphones or external speakers are plugged in. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[19:01] <StevenX> Leetbumble: I have a HP Pavilion Laptop dv6780se. I tried the livecd of Unix to see if I would run into any problems, and I can't seem to get the sound to work. Is this due to the fact that I'm using a liveCD? Will this be fixed if I install to HDD. Here is the link to the laptop's specs. I don't see what kind of sound card it uses. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01296383&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=3647006&dlc=e
[19:01] <shadowhywind> Thutti: hp laptop?
[19:01] <StevenX> lagg: yes, you are correct
[19:01] <minimec> shadowhywind: It is quiet easy.. Set a general rool for the buttons at the end! of the file. Then configure the different application. Sound apps normally use the same shortcuts...
[19:01] <StevenX> I want to install ubuntu on the HDD, but I'd like to make sure that my sound works in ubuntu before I do that.
[19:01] <Thutti> shadowhywind:No, a MSI VR201
[19:02] <mikebot> Does anyone here know anything about LaTeX?
[19:02] <shadowhywind> StevenX: I have an hp6000 and the sound works fine
[19:02] <nikrud> StevenX: in apps->accessories->terminal, type  lsci. That will list some hardware, one of which is your sound chip. What is it?
[19:02] <Thutti> shadowhywind:It is a common problem for that laptop.
[19:02] <bazhang> lspci
[19:03] <shadowhywind> Thutti it was a while a go, but the recent alsa versions have been great
[19:03] <nikrud> StevenX: yeah, lspci a typo (thanks bazhang )
[19:03] <minimec> shadowhywind: I configured my mouse with mouse focus... scroll on a multimedia = volume +/-; tilt on multimedia next/before ...
[19:03] <bazhang> haha
[19:03] <crashhandler> how to automount my ntfs partition on startup?i run xubuntu.
[19:03] <shadowhywind> minimec: imwheel seems like it only configures the mouse wheel, will it do the side buttons as well?
[19:04] <minimec> shadowhywind: yes it will...
[19:04] <Lagg> crashhandler:  10000ft answer, you'll want to look at editing your fstab.
[19:04] <Thutti> shadowhywind:I have a fresh installed ubuntu, and I have Alsa. But I like to know what the newest version is.
[19:05] <shadowhywind> Thutti looks like it is 1.0.16
[19:05] <legend2440> crashhandler: http://blog.csmonkey.com/2007/04/auto-mount-ntfsfat23-in-ubuntu.html
[19:06] <minimec> shadowhywind: I have a 'back button on the left side which I use for 'new window'(general) 'new tab (on firefox) amd minimise in multidemia apps
[19:07] <dvoid> my system sems to be random locking when i click, i think it has something to do with io, interrupts  i have tried noapic nolapic  etc it does not help, still locks sometimes
[19:07] <shadowhywind> minimec i don't think imwheel is going to fix my issue, since xev isn't reconginzeing that a button was pressed
[19:07] <dvoid> anybody got any more ideas what i can try?
[19:07] <shadowhywind> dvoid does it seam to happen after letting the comp idle for a few minus
[19:07] <shadowhywind> mins
[19:08] <dvoid> shadowhywind, hum dont know actualy   its hard to see any pattern
[19:08] <minimec> shadowhywind: again... switch to the evdev driver. You will love it!
[19:08] <shadowhywind> minimec i did switch to the evdev and xev didn't see it
[19:08] <dvoid> shadowhywind, it does not hapen very often, last time i had 5h uptime and then i clicked on a link in opera and the system totaly frozed
[19:09] <shadowhywind> dvoid try irqfixup and see if that helps. That seamed to fix some of my lockups
[19:09] <roma> привет
[19:09] <dvoid> shadowhywind, hum what does that do?
[19:09] <Thutti> shadowhywind: It is HDA intel (Alsa mixer) when I go to the option "about" it says:gnome-volume-control 2.20.1
[19:09] <shadowhywind> dvoid to tell you the truth I don't even know
[19:09] <minimec> shadowhywind: there is a problem with your xorg.conf search for 'logitech evdev'. There is a lot of information available. It is easy...
[19:09] <dvoid> :D
[19:09] <roma> ой мля... есь кто по русски бачит?
[19:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ru roma
[19:10] <StevenX> I want to install ubuntu on the HDD, but I'd like to make sure that my sound works in ubuntu before I do that.
[19:10] <robertchahine> hi everybdoy
[19:10] <roma> спс
[19:10] <StevenX> I want to install ubuntu on the HDD, but I'd like to make sure that my sound works in ubuntu before I do that.
[19:10] <bazhang> prego ;]
[19:10] <robertchahine> i installed firefox 3 beta 4
[19:10] <[B00]> then run the live cd
[19:10] <shadowhywind> StevenX you could allways upgrade your alsa and see if that helps
[19:10] <robertchahine> but don't know how to install java plugins
[19:10] <skillz> StevenX: run the live CD of ubuntu
[19:10] <skillz> before installing
[19:10] <crunchbang> Hey all -- thinking of doing a Feisty-to-Gutsy upgrade. Was wondering if there's a way to download all the necessary packages now, but just keep them for installation later
[19:10] <skillz> that way u will make sure everything works fine
[19:10] <robertchahine> and i've installed sun java6 from the add/remove
[19:11] <nagyv> StevenX: you can try with the live CD first
[19:11] <thiemster> does 8.04 alpha 6 crash a lot?
[19:11] <skillz> crunchbang: use sudo apt-get
[19:11] <legend2440> crunchbang: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[19:12] <dvoid> shadowhywind, When an interrupt is not handled search all handlers for it. Intended to get systems with badly broken firmware running.
[19:12] <xq> thiemster: depends on the apps. you are using and your P.C. -- can't answer that without knowing exact setup or your P.C. -- Personally, I would wait until beta. Definitely do not run on a production system ;-)
[19:12] <nagyv> thiemster: this week there was a day when the whole system broke down, it's not recommended for production use!
[19:12] <thiemster> xq: my ram is 256MB
[19:12] <crunchbang> skillz -- hmmm... will sudo apt-get do a dist upgrade? Not an apt expert sorry
[19:12] <thiemster> nagyv: it's just for home use
[19:12] <bazhang> thiemster: #ubuntu+1 can tell you
[19:13] <thiemster> bazhang: thx, i'll look there
[19:13] <dvoid> ...brb
[19:13] <skillz> cunchbang: nor am i... i was just guessing...
[19:13] <Bryan_Sierra> Is there a way to clear up diskspace?
[19:13] <Bryan_Sierra> Is there a way to clear up disk space automatically?
[19:13] <Bryan_Sierra> is what I should ask I suppose.
[19:14] <SliMM> hello
[19:14] <nikrud> Bryan_Sierra: sudo apt-cache clean will remove the cache of downloaded and installed packages, will free a few hundred megs
[19:14] <Methlogic> can anyone help me with a problem im having when i install... i partitioned my disk and rebooted i got to the install screen hit ok then it goes to CMD prompt and says everything is ok... then my screen turns green and fades slowly....
[19:14] <SliMM> i have a little trouble running xampp with ubuntu
[19:14] <nagyv> thiemster: you can always try it out, I would suggest you to leave gutsy as well, and put it on a separate partition. This way you can always "fall back" if you need so. This might need to reorganise a bit your home dir (like symlink it from one install to the other, etc)
[19:14] <nikrud> !lamp | SliMM
[19:14] <ubotu> SliMM: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:14] <Trubadurix> hi i need a css code of changing color in searcs bars etc like googles and the button u pres any know how to write? i need it for my firefox userChrome.css
[19:15] <Bryan_Sierra> nikrud, clean doesn't appear to be an option.
[19:15] <nagyv> crunchbang: yes, apt can do a dist upgrade, but there are more user friendly ways to make it
[19:15] <nikrud> Bryan_Sierra:   sudo apt-cache clean
[19:15] <brobostigon> Bryan_Sierra: sudo apt-get clean, is also an option
[19:15] <SliMM> nikrud: i have already installed xampp as it was shown in that wiki page, but i don't have permission to view my files
[19:16] <crunchbang> nagyv -- like apt on cd? I want to download everything for the upgrade but not install it yet
[19:16] <nikrud> Bryan_Sierra: doh, I am brain dead this morning, see brobostigon above for the right syntax
[19:16] <SliMM> nikrud: actually i used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410
[19:16] <Bryan_Sierra> nikrud, E: Invalid operation clean
[19:16] <zybil> hello does anyone have experiences with cable internet and linux?
[19:16] <brobostigon> Bryan_Sierra: sudo apt-get clean
[19:16] <minimec> crunchbang: There is a option in synaptic that allows you only to download the packages.
[19:17] <nikrud> SliMM: permission as in how? via the web browser, or in the filesystem
[19:17] <Bryan_Sierra> brobostigon, didn't do anything.
[19:17] <bazhang> zybil: what is the precise question please
[19:17] <SliMM> nikrud: web browser
[19:17] <nikrud> Bryan_Sierra: yeah, like said earlier I was brain dead
[19:17] <Bryan_Sierra> nikrud, ah mmk.
[19:17] <zybil> i am in romania and there I have a contract with the ISP named UPC
[19:17] <dvoid> Shadowpillar, thing is, i had no problems in my old fedora installation , with a custom kernel. problem is i dont know what settings i used
[19:17] <CaBlGuY> !avisplit
[19:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avisplit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:17] <Methlogic> Can someone PM me i need help with install??
[19:17] <nikrud> SliMM: I don't know much at all about xammp, I use the lamp stack that comes with ubuntu. That I could help with
[19:17] <zybil> i use the cable connect the modem to it and to the modem via ethernet cable my laptop
[19:17] <Econael> which prog do I need to rip a CD into mp3s on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[19:18] <Seveas> SliMM, you should not use xampp on ubuntu
[19:18] <erUSUL> Econael: Sound juicer comes installed
[19:18] <Econael> erUSUL: it can't record into mp3
[19:18] <zybil> i can ping the modem, i can access the modem via http://192.168.100.1
[19:18] <bazhang> zybil use a browser to connect to the router and configure it from there
[19:18] <zybil> it says Cable Modem Status - Not Synchronized
[19:18] <zybil> what does it mean?
[19:18] <nagyv> zybil: if I am not mistaken than you have ASDL, and it's an ASDL modem, is it right? (in Hungary this is what UPC offers)
[19:19] <erUSUL> Econael: if you install the gstreamer multiverse ugly plus liblame or lame you can
[19:19] <erUSUL> Econael: i personally use grip + lame
[19:19] <crunchbang> minimec -- the 'Generate package download script'? I see, but I don't know how to do a dist-upgrade with synaptic. I think I have to edit my repositories file
[19:19] <SliMM> nikrud: is there an easy way to get a [private] (i have a router) web server up and runnig?
[19:19] <zybil> its a modem that uses a thick cable which also is connected to television
[19:19] <zybil> so is it ADSL or Cable? I think its cable ??
[19:19] <bazhang> cable
[19:20] <Econael> erUSUL: looks good, thanks
[19:20] <nikrud> SliMM: see the link I gave above, but   sudo tasksel install lamp-server  is the simple step necessary
[19:20] <zybil> bazhang: how do i configure it so that it will be able to syncronize right??
[19:20] <bazhang> zybil open firefox and type in 192.168.1.1 this will bring up the router interface and the config screen
[19:20] <nagyv> zybil:
[19:20] <Econael> erUSUL: one last question: does anyone pay you to be here and help people?
[19:20] <bazhang> Econael: haha
[19:20] <nagyv> zybil: might be that someone in Romania has the same problem already solved. Do you have a local IRC for ubuntu?
[19:20] <Econael> bazhang: ^^ yeah, thought so
[19:21] <minimec> crunchbang: basic way... (if have done that with debian often) Set your sources to gutsy and start the update with synaptic (before you have to choose the download only option somewhere in the preferences).
[19:21] <nagyv> !ro | zybil
[19:21] <Econael> bazhang: is it a hobby or what?
[19:21] <ubotu> zybil: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[19:21] <zybil> bazhang: yes I did this. but i dont know the user and pass. before me another person that used win had this contract. maybe it's still kind of a default user and pass?? what was it again??
[19:21] <bazhang> Econael: offtopic; but obsession ;]
[19:21] <commander-ape> hey there, my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is empty. where do i get the standard files for my ubuntu 7.10
[19:21] <Econael> bazhang: helpful obsession ^^
[19:21] <nikrud> bazhang: is soon to be known as bazgang
[19:21] <bazhang> zybil: try root and no pass, then admin and admin
[19:22] <Bryan_Sierra> what is the command to open up a GUI window in root?
[19:22] <bazhang> nikrud haha
[19:22] <zybil> ubotu: multumesc, dar acum vorbesc numai putsin romanesde invet de la 3 septemane :/
[19:22] <zybil> haha a bot
[19:22] <veco> hellp needed - external HDD not in lsusb, syslog shows device not accepting address 12, error -71
[19:22] <bazhang> zybil what router name and make
[19:22] <legend2440> crunchbang: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[19:22] <soldats> Bryan_Sierra: gksu <appname>
[19:22] <witepa> Alright, so I need some help here. I am trying to install Xubuntu 7.10 onto a PowerBook G3 with a broken internal CD/DVD drive. I have gotten my hands on an external USB CD drive, and it is recognized by the mac's bios. However, when I try to boot from it, I am taken to the mac's Open Firmware screen. What command should I use to make this work?
[19:22] <nikrud> Bryan_Sierra: usually   gksudo <command>
[19:22] <crunchbang> minimec -- ah, just looking at the feisty-to-gutsy upgrade instructions on the ubuntu site, you can do the upgrade from a gutsy alternate CD, that'll do the job for me
[19:23] <veco> hope nikrud has new ideas since yesterday
[19:23] <minimec> crunchbang: ok
[19:23] <crunchbang> thanks all
[19:23] <nikrud> crunchbang: remember you will still need net access; if you have any apps installed over the net you'll probably need to update them as well (dependencies will probably require it)
[19:23] <Bryan_Sierra> no no, I mean a GUI File Viewer.
[19:23] <tracker`> :DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[19:24] <tracker`> lol
[19:24] <nikrud> veco: nope, no new answers on that one
[19:24] <tracker`> powned
[19:24] <Trubadurix> ¹
[19:24] <kloeri> tracker`: don't do that
[19:24] <veco> what is error -71?
[19:24] <soldats> Bryan_Sierra: gksu nautilus     ?
[19:24] <veco> where may i find error -71 explanation?
[19:25]  * Trubadurix i am crazy
[19:25] <Bryan_Sierra> soldats, yes. Thank you.
[19:25] <Ace2016> Did youtube just go down?
[19:25] <JonathanLahav> no
[19:25] <rsk> Ace2016: that would never happen..
[19:25] <Pici> !traffic
[19:26] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[19:26] <zybil> bazhang: its a webstar (scientific atlanta) VoIP cable modem
[19:26] <Ace2016> LjL: whats going on?
[19:26] <Squawk> veco, did you check outpout in dmesg? Just a suggestion, I have ot leave now, but just an idea
[19:26] <veco> LjL is real busy
[19:26] <Trubadurix> whats the difriend of gksudo nautilus /  and  gksudo nautilus --no-desktop /   ?
[19:26] <rsk> youtube is 5% of internet's traffic
[19:26] <Pici> !exploit
[19:26] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[19:26] <Ace2016> what happened?
[19:26] <Slart> !exploit
[19:26] <LjL> read above
[19:26] <veco> quick guide to dmesg it pls
[19:26] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[19:26] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[19:26] <SliMM> nikrud: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[19:26] <Squawk> veco, just try sudo dmesg, and have a look at the last bit of output after plugging in the router. But I really have to go
[19:26] <veco> ok squawk
[19:27] <Toznoshio> Q; What is the best way to stream an mp3 file to multiple people?
[19:27] <Christina18> Hello! In HTML, how do you link to a specified page in a .pdf document ?
[19:27] <zybil> bazhang: its a webstar (scientific atlanta) VoIP cable modem - that enough?
[19:27] <Seveas> Toznoshio, icecast
[19:27] <ccharles`> Toznoshio: you can set up an icecast server, I think.
[19:27] <veco> Squawk: same error -71 in dmesg
[19:27] <bazhang> zybil: well I am heading away now; you can check for the default for that or just do a reset on the router to the default which would likely be root and no pass for login and then admin and admin for the router itself
[19:27] <Toznoshio> Ok, I'll give icecast a try
[19:28] <Ace2016> so LjL what was that all about?
[19:28] <dimas__> i saved some picture in my old ubuntu version and for some reason i lost the pictures in the computer but now i can open the folders from the cd cause is an old version of ubuntu....what should i do?
[19:28] <jpatrick> Ace2016: /join #ubuntu-read-topic
[19:29] <dimas__>  i saved some picture in my old ubuntu version and for some reason i lost the pictures in the computer but now i can't open the folders from the cd cause is an old version of ubuntu....what should i do?
[19:29] <JonathanLahav> sometimes the message "too many open files" prevents me from seeing my music files, and that after playing some and copying a few others. What can be the cause of it and how can I release it when it happens without logging out? Thank you very much. If someone knows please let me know.
[19:29] <dimas__> i cant open
[19:29] <russ> bazhang you may remember me asking about killing my screensaver. No luck. Seems to have a mind of its own, but there must be a process that is running that starts it, if i could find it i could kill it
[19:29] <LjL> !exploit > ace2016    (ace2016, see the private message from Ubotu)
[19:30] <Ace2016> om
[19:30] <Ace2016> omg
[19:30] <Fallenou> !exploit > Fallenou
[19:30] <soldats> russ: what was your problem
[19:30] <BaD-AcerLaptop> heh :)
[19:30] <Trashlord> I'm trying to install the package build-essential, so I can install packages from source. it tells me there are unmet dependencies (libc6), I have that package also installed. I'm trying to get libc-dev, and it says it depends on a package OLDER than the one I'm trying to install, and therefore won't install.
[19:31] <russ> soldats somehow I have a screensaver running that i cannot control. i would like to kill it permanently
[19:31] <Seveas> Trashlord, are you installing manually downloaded packages or have you messed with /etc/apt/sources.list?
[19:31] <nikrud> Trashlord: did you install stuff from a 3d party repository?
[19:31] <Trashlord> no
[19:31] <Trashlord> nothing
[19:31] <soldats> russ: PM me
[19:31] <Trashlord> all I did was download the alsa drivers
[19:31] <zybil> thanks bazhang I'll try this at home see you
[19:31] <Trashlord> the sources, of course, bzip2 files
[19:31] <Seveas> Trashlord, pastebin your sources.list and the command you ran and its output
[19:31] <CaBlGuY> anyone know what package to use for spliting video files?
[19:32] <Trashlord> so I was on my way to the installation, then I remembered I needed to get build-essential
[19:32] <ccharles`> CaBlGuY: I use ffmpeg, but it's command-line. Not sure of a GUI package.
[19:32] <Trashlord> k, sec
[19:32] <erUSUL> !info avidemux | CaBlGuY
[19:32] <ihmSelbst> hi, how can i see how many cores does have my cpu?
[19:33] <ubotu> cablguy: avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[19:33] <CaBlGuY> ccharles`,  that would be fine as long as it is able to split any video type...  such as MPeg and DIVX, etc..
[19:33] <ccharles`> ihmSelbst: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:33] <ihmSelbst> thx
[19:33] <ccharles`> CaBlGuY: it does most formats. I've had very few problems with it.
[19:33] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm   thanks erUSUL .. I'll look into that
[19:33] <JonathanLahav> sometimes the message "too many open files" prevents me from seeing my music files, and that after playing some and copying a few others. What can be the cause of it and how can I release it when it happens without logging out? Thank you very much. If someone knows please let me know.
[19:33] <ccharles`> CaBlGuY: best thing to do is install it and read the manpages.
[19:33] <mitan> Hey All, I have an ubuntu system fully partitioned.  I was to install windows on the PC now, is there a way to do it without reinstalling from scratch?
[19:33] <CaBlGuY> thanks ccharles`
[19:34] <Seveas> mitan, install windows, then follow the instructions ubotu will send you in a sec
[19:34] <JonathanLahav> You have to install ubuntu on windows...
[19:34] <Seveas> !grub > mitan
[19:34] <Ash908> where is the nfsd config file located
[19:34] <Trashlord> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/d4bd59789
[19:34] <Seveas> Ash908, /etc/exports
[19:34] <russ> soldats sorry not sure how
[19:35] <mitan> Seveas: Where do I install Windows though?  The drive is fully being used by Ubuntu
[19:35] <Trashlord> mitan: partition it
[19:36] <Trashlord> calculate how much is half of the entire drive's size
[19:36] <Trashlord> and create a partition according to that
[19:36] <Seveas> mitan, security and other updates are missing from there, enable them in the software sources tool
[19:36] <mitan> Trashlord: well currently my ubuntu system had the root partition, the boot, and the swap fully using the drives space
[19:37] <mitan> Trashlord: any way to repartition root without messing up my system?
[19:37] <Trashlord> well, another thing is though
[19:37] <mitan> I got everything running the way I like it
[19:37] <mitan> :-)
[19:37] <eshear_> hey - i think i'm running out of file descriptors...but i can't understand why. the result of cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr: 15008   0       65535
[19:37] <nagyv> mitan: first of all make a backup copy. I would recommend to use partimage
[19:37] <ccharles`> mitan: you'll need to shrink your root filesystem, then the partition. it's a little tricky. you might be better off buying a second drive for Windows if you're worried about it.
[19:37] <Trashlord> if you first install ubuntu, and then windows
[19:37] <Trashlord> you will encounter problems booting
[19:37] <nagyv> mitan: then user qtparted or its Gnome equivalent
[19:37] <Trashlord> because the windows boot loader doesn't recognize linux
[19:38] <eshear_> ah, nevermind - http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_fs_file_nr.html
[19:38] <Trashlord> Seveas: any idea what's causing my problem?
[19:38] <mitan> yeah, the boot loader is no problem
[19:38] <mitan> I can even use windows bootloader using a dd command.. I remember doing that once
[19:38] <terminal> i down load an exe file in ubuntu how i copy it into windows partition
[19:38] <Seveas> Trashlord, something's keeping files open, first guess is the media player
[19:38] <Trashlord> I'm not running a media player
[19:38] <mitan> i just don't know how to repartition linux root without mucking up my system
[19:38] <Trashlord> I only tried to get build essential, so I can build ALSA, which I need to play media in the first place
[19:38] <nagyv> mitan: backup, then use gparted
[19:39] <mitan> played starcraft today and really missed it :-)
[19:39] <nagyv> try PlayOnLinux.com :)
[19:39] <mitan> hmmm
[19:39] <Seveas> Trashlord, sorry, mixing 2 problems
[19:39] <nagyv> it enchances wine
[19:39] <mitan> if that works I am set
[19:39] <Trashlord> ah, alright
[19:39] <terminal> i down load an exe file in ubuntu how i copy it into windows partition
[19:39] <ihmSelbst> how many ram can ubuntu handle?
[19:39] <JonathanLahav> Seveas, did you answer -my- question and not trashlord's?
[19:40] <Seveas> Trashlord, security and other updates are missing from your sources.list, enable them in the software sources tool
[19:40] <nagyv> terminal: do you see your partition in nautilus?
[19:40] <JonathanLahav> about "too many open files?
[19:40] <Trubadurix> mitan: have u seen the video of the starcraft2?
[19:40] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, yes :)
[19:40] <mitan> Trubadurix: yeah, looks SICK
[19:40] <Seveas> was scrolling back to find whose question that was ;)
[19:40] <terminal> nagyv: no
[19:40] <Trubadurix> mitan: yeah pretty cool ;)
[19:40] <mitan> actually, I just met someone who's into all the strategy gaming and I got reason to play
[19:40] <JonathanLahav> it happens with vlc, mplayer, rythmbox, everything
[19:41] <terminal> nagyv: how i see it
[19:41] <mitan> Trubadurix: I can't wait.  Any idea when its out
[19:41] <mitan> ?
[19:41] <nagyv> are you sure that it's there? if you were simply clicking while installing ubuntu, then it is using yourwhole hard drive
[19:41] <Trubadurix> no sry i dont know
[19:41] <nagyv> terminal: open nautilus (this is the file manager), and on the left column you will see all your drives
[19:41] <JonathanLahav> so it's not likely the player
[19:41] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, then something else on your machine is keeping files open
[19:42] <nagyv> !ntfs
[19:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[19:42] <Vlet> Anyone have any experience setting up pptpd? Is it possible to have the internal and external addresses the same?
[19:42] <nagyv> !ntfs > terminal
[19:42] <JonathanLahav> how can I check which process keeps hundreds of files open without me knowing it?
[19:42] <Trashlord> oh
[19:42] <Trashlord> I didn't update everything, so that's the problem then?
[19:43] <terminal> nagyv: then
[19:43] <Slart> JonathanLahav: lsof might help you
[19:43] <terminal> nagyv: how i open nautils
[19:43] <veco> how might i find out the -71 error description?
[19:43] <nagyv> terminal: click on the places menu and choose the first option :)
[19:44] <Slart> veco: error -71.. in what application? os?
[19:44] <minimec> how about writing nautilus...
[19:44] <terminal> nagyv: then
[19:44] <sFEARs> any help with kernels in here. booting into 2.6.22-14-generic works fine but when booting into 2.6.2-14-rt it's gets stuck. I'm not quite sure where to start
[19:44] <JonathanLahav> Slart: What is this lsof? I got lost in it's output.
[19:44] <Ashfire908> can i "burn" a livecd iso to a usb drive? (with the normal ubuntu 7.10 livecd iso i have, i don't have a good connection to download iso files)
[19:44] <veco> os
[19:45] <Slart> JonathanLahav: it lists open files.. together with process name etc etc.. you could use grep and perhaps sort to make some sense out of it..
[19:45] <veco> Slart: in dmesg it says error -71 when i plug my usb drive
[19:45] <sFEARs> Ashfire908, that will work if you have a usb compatible bios that can read & boot from usb drives
[19:45] <nagyv> terminal: do you see your windows partition?
[19:45] <terminal> nagyv: ya
[19:45] <Slart> veco: just error -71.. nothing else?
[19:45] <Lilacor> ls of = "list open files"
[19:46] <JonathanLahav> nice. ls = list. o = open. f = files.
[19:46] <JonathanLahav> :)
[19:46] <JonathanLahav> just figured it out
[19:46] <nagyv> terminal: can you simply copy the files over there?
[19:46] <Ashfire908> sFEARs, i do. how to i "burn" it? (i don't want to lose the current partitions and data so i don't want to simply write over everything)
[19:46] <veco> Slart: new high speed usb device connected, cannot open port check USB cable, and then error -71
[19:47] <sFEARs> hold on Ashfire908
[19:47] <core_> how does ubuntu know my wireless car is named eth1?
[19:47] <mitan> hmm, I loaded up gparted.. the options to resize or change anything are all greyed out
[19:47] <terminal> nagyv: after i cp i havnt get d opt of paste
[19:47] <veco> Slart: the USB cable is fine, the drive works fine with windblows
[19:47] <mitan> do I need to boot via another device then try?
[19:47] <legend2440> JonathanLahav: do you have system monitor on your panel?
[19:47] <Lilacor> core_: that's probably how the kernel saw the card.
[19:47] <core_> Lilacor, i know there is a way to change it, which file is it that I need to edit?
[19:47] <nagyv> terminal: repeat please, I couldn't understand you
[19:48] <Lilacor> core_: beats me.
[19:48] <nagyv> terminal: "d opt of paste" ?
[19:48] <Slart> veco: no need for the name calling.. it's called windows
[19:48] <ccharles`> mitan: probably, if you're trying to resize your root paritition. there's a gparted livecd available at their site.
[19:48] <Lilacor> core_: why do you find it necessary to edit what your card says?
[19:48] <mitan> ccharles`: I am sure I can use the ubuntu boot cd as well
[19:48] <mitan> ?
[19:48] <veco> Slart: i have unmounted it in XP properly, sorry for the name calling i simply hate booting in XP that's all
[19:48] <Slart> veco: can you copy/paste the exact error message, please?
[19:48] <core_> because this particular program i use doesn't allow me to change the interface its looking for
[19:48] <JonathanLahav> Slart: how many open files shoud I have? hundreds? thousands?
[19:48] <core_> Lilacor, it wants wifi0 and ubuntu recognized mine as eth1
[19:48] <terminal> nagyv: when i right click in windows partition i havnt got d option of paste
[19:49] <ccharles`> mitan: *shrug* if it has gparted or qtparted on it you should be able to.
[19:49] <nagyv> mitan: to resize a partition it should be unmounted
[19:49] <sFEARs> Ashfire908, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316093
[19:49] <nagyv> ok, might be you don't have write permissions
[19:49] <Slart> JonathanLahav: I have no idea.. I have lots and lots.. how do you count'em?
[19:49] <Lilacor> core_: what program might this be?
[19:49] <core_> Lilacor, not to sound rude but does it matter?
[19:49] <mitan> Alright sweet guys.  Now where did that Windows CD go... hmmmmmm
[19:49] <mitan> :-)
[19:49] <nagyv> terminal: are you using gutsy?
[19:49] <ccharles`> Slart: "ls | wc -l" will show you how many files are in a directory
[19:50] <terminal> nagyv: ya
[19:50] <Lilacor> core_: yes it does matter since the developers might have something to say about it.
[19:50] <JonathanLahav> Slart: lsof > output; gedit; document statistics -> number of lines :)
[19:50] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, try this as root to see which process has most files:
[19:50] <Seveas>  cd /proc ; for pid in $(ls | grep '^[[:digit:]]\+$'); do if [ -e /proc/$pid ] ; then echo -n "Proc $pid "; readlink /proc/$pid/exe || echo ""; echo "    $(ls /proc/$pid/fd | wc -w) files"; fi; done
[19:50] <sFEARs> Ashfire908, your going to have to partition something, you don't necessarily need to erase everything, but you need an ext3 partition to install linux on
[19:50] <core_> Lilacor, i have already searched, it is not supported. Its called IPWRAW
[19:50] <veco> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59844/
[19:50] <Slart> ccharles`: sweet.. I always forget about wc.. thanks
[19:50] <nagyv> terminal: are you sure you copied the file? do you get the paste option elsewhere?
[19:50] <ccharles`> Slart: no problem.
[19:50] <nagyv> you might open two nautilus windows and try to drag&drop
[19:51] <nagyv> terminal: ^^
[19:51] <jars> lc
[19:51] <terminal> nagyv: ya in home folder
[19:51] <Ashfire908> sFEARs, this appears not to be for livecds
[19:52] <nagyv> terminal: what about drag&drop? do you get an error message or it worked?
[19:52] <Jafet> What's the EOF keystrokes for gnome-terminal and shouldn't this be documented somewhere?
[19:52] <Slart> veco: I googled the error message.. some people seem to think it's because some piece of hardware doesn't follow the USB-standard properly.. seems like windows is more forgiving when it comes to this.
[19:52] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722615
[19:52] <Christina18> Hello! In HTML, how do you link to a specified page in a .pdf document ?
[19:52] <KalEl> control D?
[19:52] <terminal> nagyv: i dont get u
[19:52] <rsk> Christina18: ask in #html or something
[19:52] <KalEl> <a href="file.pdf">file.pdf</a>?
[19:53] <Jafet> KalEl, okay, thanks.
[19:53] <sFEARs> Ashfire908 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/livecdpersistence
[19:53] <JonathanLahav> Seveas: can you copy and paste the script? I just disabled the smileys...
[19:53] <veco> Slart: i googled it i hate to bother here... it's the second external drive 2.5 inch that is usb ppowered that refuses to work on ubuntu. I tryed it on gutsy, hardy and feisty
[19:53] <Seveas>  cd /proc ; for pid in $(ls | grep '^[[:digit:]]\+$'); do if [ -e /proc/$pid ] ; then echo -n "Proc $pid "; readlink /proc/$pid/exe || echo ""; echo "    $(ls /proc/$pid/fd | wc -w) files"; fi; done
[19:53] <JonathanLahav> :thanks
[19:53] <Christina18> rsk: i tried
[19:53] <tsrchristopher> '
[19:53] <nagyv> open 2 nautilus windows, one in the folder you want to copy from, and the other in the folder you want to copy to. Then grab the file with your mouse, and drop it in the other windows.
[19:53] <KalEl> oh you asked for a specific page in .pdf... sorry i do not know then
[19:53] <nagyv> terminal: ^^
[19:53] <Jafet> Christina18, I doubt the PDF formats and protocols go into that.
[19:53] <Slart> veco: some other posts seem to point to some kind of error in the usb modules in linux/ubuntu.. I haven't found anyone with a good solution to the problem
[19:53] <terminal> nagyv: i dont get u
[19:53] <rsk> Christina18: ok try in #windows or something then, not here it's offtopic
[19:53] <Jafet> Christina18, whatever you were trying to solve with that, try a different solution.
[19:54] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: http://www.criticalsecurity.net/index.php?showtopic=24361
[19:54] <nagyv> Christina18: you can convert the pdf to html, and link to it then
[19:54] <Slart> veco: no difference if you boot with the drive connected?
[19:54] <veco> Slart: no bypass? no 'hard way' to mount it?
[19:54] <Jafet> Converting PDF to HTML is rarely ideal.
[19:54] <terminal> nagyv: r u getting m
[19:54] <nagyv> Jafet: do you have a better idea?
[19:54] <Christina18> nagvy: ok, will consider that!
[19:54] <KalEl> you can always say "page 15 of <a href="file.pdf">file.pdf</a>"
[19:54] <nagyv> terminal: yes, you want to copy a file :)
[19:54] <ar0nic> !resolution
[19:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:54] <veco> Slart: no difference, i tryed it all... connect - boot, boot - connect, dmesg it, syslog it, lsusb lshw lspci do not see it
[19:55] <Jafet> Yes. Ask Christina18 what linking to a page of a PDF document is supposed to solve.
[19:55] <tsrchristopher> Lilacor, thank you i think the second links should owkr.
[19:55] <tsrchristopher> *work
[19:55] <Slart> veco: I haven't seen any solutions in the google results..
[19:55] <nagyv> terminal: open 2 nautilus windows, one in the folder you want to copy from, and the other in the folder you want to copy to. Then grab the file with your mouse, and drop it in the other windows.
[19:55] <terminal> nagyv: tell n how i did
[19:55] <veco> Slart: tryed to eject it on XP and then connect-boot, no difference
[19:55] <Slart> veco: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6
[19:55] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: next time, please just answer the question - it makes helping you a lot easier.
[19:56] <veco> Slart: thanks, i googled it for two days as well found many problems, but no solution, have hoped might hard-run it
[19:56] <danand> Seveas - shouldn't that be wc -l in $(ls /proc/$pid/fd | wc -w) files?? or am i missing something??
[19:56] <Christina18> Jafet: what linking to a page of a PDF document is supposed to solve? I have a menu in html for fast and easy access to a specified topic in a 100 page-pdf doc
[19:56] <nagyv> terminal: I didn't get this one
[19:56] <Seveas> danand, it shouldn't really make a difference in this specific case :)
[19:56] <tsrchristopher> Lilacor, do you happen to know what file Ubuntu or any distro of linux actually stores the name of the interface?
[19:56] <terminal> nagyv: still prob
[19:56] <Jafet> Christina18, that's better. Now why are you linking into a PDF document?
[19:57] <nagyv> terminal: ok, then let's move to the command line, just to see an error message :)
[19:57] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: no I do not.
[19:57] <nagyv> terminal: open a terminal window
[19:57] <Jafet> Christina18, short answer, you can't do that. Long question, what are you trying to accomplish with that.
[19:57] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: I would assume it to be /etc/network/interfaces
[19:57] <veco> Slart: that gave me an idea, i'll try an external power suply for it, it may help
[19:57] <Lilacor> tsrchristopher: but I am not sure.
[19:57] <warlink> Hello guys.. could some1 please be so kind and help me with the network manager.. its not working..
[19:57] <terminal> nagyv: k
[19:57] <terminal> nagyv: then
[19:57] <nagyv> terminal: do you know Midnight commander or basic dos commands?
[19:57] <veco> Slart: i simply hate the fact XP runs it fine
[19:57]  * Jafet wonders if you could link into tex instead
[19:58] <terminal> nagyv: not all
[19:58] <Jafet> Or dvi.
[19:58] <reportingsjr> Does anyone know of a decent streaming radio client for 7.10?
[19:58] <danand> Seveas - yeah - my mistake... :) just playing with that command a bit and messed up what it was supposed to do. Nice neat script/command though :)
[19:58] <Christina18> Jafet: instead of re-writing the whole document in html
[19:58] <nagyv> terminal: ok, do you know norton commander or total commander?
[19:58] <reportingsjr> Rythmbox sucks -.-
[19:58] <Seveas> danand, heavy plumbing is my specialty :)
[19:58] <terminal> nagyv: no
[19:58] <Seveas> reportingsjr, do mind the language please
[19:58] <Seveas> reportingsjr, try beep-media-player or mplayer
[19:58] <reportingsjr> Seveas, I can't say "sucks"?
[19:59] <nagyv> terminal: it gets harder :) then you will try to do it with midnight commander, it's a file manager for the terminal window.
[19:59] <reportingsjr> Seveas, thank you
[19:59] <Jafet> Christina18, you're working around my question very cleverly.
[19:59] <nagyv> terminal: type sudo apt-get install mc
[19:59] <Seveas> reportingsjr, correct, say it again and you'll be out of here
[19:59] <reportingsjr> Seveas, That seems a bit ridiculous
[19:59] <reportingsjr> Seveas, Really ridiculous
[19:59] <Seveas> !guidelines > reportingsjr
[19:59] <Christina18> Jafet: ?
[19:59] <terminal> nagyv: such type of command i know
[20:00] <reportingsjr> Seveas, you... gave me an answer?
[20:00] <zoidberg_> hey guys what is the wine channel?
[20:00] <nagyv> Christina18: try to convert it to html, then check it if it's fine for you or not. If not, then we can still find a better solution. But probably this is the easiest.
[20:00] <Seveas> reportingsjr, I made ubotu send you something :)
[20:00] <Seveas> zoidberg_, I'd guess #wine
[20:00] <reportingsjr> Seveas, Yes, it said answers are not always available.
[20:00] <acu>  got a lot of trouble making wireless Broadcom minipci express card on a AMD64 laptop - I am thinking to buy a different wireless card - which manufacturer is most open source oriented ?
[20:00] <Seveas> reportingsjr, and it gave you a link to something you should read
[20:00] <nagyv> terminal: once mc is installed, run it :)
[20:00] <Christina18> nagyv: i will, am trying to convert right now
[20:01] <mik1> hey guys i have question. i am trying to edit a config file for a program.  it wont let me edit it because i dont have the correct permissions but i dont wat to have to logon in as root on the command line because graphical is alot easier.  i was just wondering if there was a way i could edit this stuff without loging in a root?
[20:01] <reportingsjr> Seveas, I know
[20:01] <JonathanLahav> Seveas: great script. I must learn it. now I have to reproduce the problem...
[20:01] <terminal> nagyv: kkkkkkk
[20:01] <Lilacor> acu: intel's cards work pretty freakin' well
[20:01] <skillz> mik1: use chmod
[20:01] <nagyv> terminal: what the k is k for?
[20:01] <skillz> mik1: check man chmod for more info
[20:01] <jin> hi, any one has Firefox 3 beta 4 on ubuntu 7.10? how do you install it?
[20:01] <bense> is it possible to stack usb hubs?
[20:01] <veco> Slart: for future notice, it works when i booted with hardy, but not in gutsy
[20:01] <terminal> nagyv:are yaar okkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:01] <wxPython> chmod +x
[20:01] <Seveas> mik1, gksudo your_editor_here the_filename_here
[20:01] <acu> Lilacor: thanks
[20:01] <Seveas> mik1, so for instance: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcpd.conf
[20:01] <wxPython> chmod +x somefile.py
[20:01] <nagyv> now start mc with the command mc
[20:02] <Lilacor> acu: you're welcome
[20:02] <nagyv> terminal: ^^^
[20:02] <wxPython> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[20:02] <mik1> and then it will let me edit it?
[20:02] <skillz> yes
[20:02] <mik1> okay thanks a bunch
[20:02] <nagyv> terminal: then open the source folder in one side, change with tab to the other side, open the destination folder there
[20:02] <nagyv> terminal: and click F5 to copy
[20:02] <Seveas> mik1, either that or complian that you typed your password wrong ;)
[20:02] <Avatar_> Hi! I have got a softraid (5) over 6 drives.Now I have changed the motherboard and forgot the order in which the SATA cables were plugged in. Is there another possibility to figure that out?
[20:03] <reportingsjr> Seveas, I still don't see why a word like that would be frowned upon, worse words I can see, but not that. Reminds me of Nazi's, but it's not my channel I guess. *shrug*
[20:03] <^NighT^WalkeR^> what is a wine file?
[20:03] <Seveas> ^NighT^WalkeR^, something with alcohol made from grapes? :)
[20:03] <Jafet> And Google exerts yet another step towards world dominion.
[20:03] <Jafet> Christina18, http://forums.devshed.com/html-programming-1/how-to-make-an-anchor-in-pdf-and-link-to-333232.html
[20:04] <sFEARs> what's the key combination for a force unmount of all drives.. it's shift+ctrl+ins+u & shift+ctrl+ins+d or something like that??
[20:04] <^NighT^WalkeR^> hope it's merlot then
[20:04] <^NighT^WalkeR^> no seriously...
[20:04] <ompaul> !wine | ^NighT^WalkeR^ (read that)
[20:04] <ubotu> ^NighT^WalkeR^ (read that): WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:05] <ruby> jaøøa
[20:05] <tribalih> good evening might anyone give me a helping hand with this weird problem: http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotoyp1.png ? the caption is waaaay to big
[20:05] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ah... actually knew... it was just hidden somewhere in the back of my head
[20:05] <Jafet> Christina, you still have to reformat your PDFs, but I expect you can automate that.
[20:06] <nagyv> sFEARs: it's called shut down :) I think, there is no such shortcut by default
[20:06] <TaRDy> !appdb | tardy
[20:06] <Christina18> Jafet: thanks for the link. Seems I must have control of the pdf doc
[20:06] <sFEARs> no.. i've seen it before.. it's a way to unmount if everything is locked up
[20:06] <rubyscube> C
[20:07] <rubyscube> C
[20:07] <rubyscube> oopps
[20:07] <rubyscube> sorry
[20:07] <tribalih> -.-
[20:07] <Jafet> Ugh, md5 requires two EOFs??
[20:07] <Jafet> And on this other string, it requires three!!
[20:07] <veco> Slart: thank you, you have been helpful. Cheers!
[20:07] <SliMM> i cannot set permissions for folders on an ipod
[20:07] <tribalih> has anyone ever seen something like this: http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotoyp1.png ? I'm kinda desperate
[20:07] <SliMM> why's that?
[20:08] <tribalih> SliMM you're not allowed to change the permissions?
[20:08] <Jafet> SliMM, how did you fail?
[20:08] <Seveas> SliMM, probably because the filesystem on the ipod doesn't support permissions
[20:08] <ccharles`> SliMM: probably because the filesystem on the iPod doesn't support Unix-style permissions. it may be FAT or something.
[20:08] <SliMM> it is fat
[20:08] <Jafet> And why would you want to set permissions on an iPod anyway...
[20:08] <Seveas> SliMM, well there you go :)
[20:09] <Christina18> Jafet: the pdf wasn't created by me...
[20:09] <Seveas> ccharles`, and me gave the answer :)
[20:09] <MagoonD> how do I list out my dns address as well, ifconfig only lists my ip and subnet in windows command prompt i can type ipconfig /all to get my dns as well
[20:09] <Jafet> Christina18, but if you have access to the documents, you can just copy them and run them through a pagination filter.
[20:09] <SchneeSchwarz> tribalih: go to System / Einstellungen / Erscheinungsbild / Schriftarten an adjust the size of "Schrift in Fenstertiteln"
[20:09] <tribalih> MagoonD, it's in /etc/resolv
[20:09] <Seveas> MagoonD, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:09] <tyson_> Hi
[20:09] <tribalih> thanks SchneeSchwarz
[20:10] <Jafet> If they change though, syncing might be an issue...
[20:10] <SliMM> because i want to create a symbolic link to a folder on my ipod, so i can do all my web-related work there and have it with me all the time
[20:10] <terminal> nagyv:after installation where i get it
[20:10] <Christina18> Jafet: what is a pagination filter? is there a free tool for it?
[20:10] <MagoonD> Seveas, tribalih thx that worked
[20:10] <shadowhywind> minimec: guess what!
[20:10] <nagyv> terminal: just type mc in the terminal window
[20:10] <tribalih> your welcome MagoonD
[20:10] <nagyv> terminal: then open the source folder in one side, change with tab to the other side, open the destination folder there
[20:10] <nagyv> terminal: and click F5 to copy
[20:10] <minimec> shadowhywind: So you did it ;) What's your feeling about it? lol
[20:11] <Jafet> Christina, no idea. If Murphy shows up today, expect to write, or have written for you, a whole program to do it.
[20:11] <shadowhywind> minimec: actraully i didn't use imwheel. I reinstalled xbindkeys, and somehow that must have fixed what was wrong
[20:11] <tyson_> Hi all, i am a rookie wid Gutsy Gibbon and im tryin 2 install k3b but i can not, any help ?
[20:12] <tribalih> SchneeSchwarz it is set to Sans 10, that should be that big :s
[20:12] <tribalih> is it because of my widescreen notebook?
[20:12] <Slart> Christina18, Jafet check out "pr"
[20:12] <Slart> !info pr
[20:12] <ubotu> Package pr does not exist in gutsy
[20:12] <minimec> shadowhywind: as far that xev sees the button action of your back/next buttons you will be able to use imwheel.
[20:12] <sFEARs> tyson_ at a command prompt type "sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get install k3b"
[20:12] <SliMM> well, how can i work with that folder so all the files in it could be accessible somewhere under my web root?
[20:12] <tyson_> sFEARS: thak u
[20:13] <sFEARs> welcome
[20:13] <Christina18> Slart: what is "pr" ?
[20:13] <Slart> qman pr
[20:13] <SchneeSchwarz> tribalih: I doubt it. I do have a notebook with a 1680x1050 screen myself but the title font is more .... hm ... sensible ;-)
[20:13] <Slart> bah.. wrong window
[20:13] <tribalih> SchneeSchwarz, if I restart my xserver a few times it gets normal
[20:13] <TaRDy> do you think wine would support Visual Studio 2008 pro?
[20:13] <tribalih> TaRDy, I doupt that
[20:13] <Slart> Christina18: it converts text to postscript, I think.. it does pagination etc.. ie acts as a pagination filter
[20:13] <TaRDy> (i read the appdb but it was not listed under there
[20:14] <SchneeSchwarz> tribalih: strange, something wrong with desktop effects (compiz) maybe?
[20:14] <tribalih> SchneeSchwarz thanks good idea.. I'm going to turn it off
[20:14] <Christina18> Slart: for what do I use that? There is a pdf document online which is the pdf doc I need to hyperlink to
[20:14] <zod_> how to play age of empire 2 in Ubuntu trough wine???
[20:15] <Jafet> Slart, in the context of automatically adding an anchor to each page?
[20:15] <nagyv> zod_: try playonlinux.com ja
[20:15] <tribalih> SchneeSchwarz awesome.. that did the trick!
[20:15] <crdlb> tribalih: yes, that's a bug in compiz's gtk-window-decorator
[20:15] <Slart> Christina18: oh.. I don't think it can do that... I don't think there is anything that can do that..
[20:15] <crdlb> should be fixed in hardy
[20:16] <terminal> nagyv:my file that is to copy is on desktop how i locate it in mc
[20:16] <tribalih> :) thank you guys
[20:16] <BizMan> hey i just installed an extra 500gb sata harddrive
[20:16] <ar0nic> guys ive manually added a few more resolutions into the xorg,conf then restarted X however i still only have th 3 resolutions in the system, preferences, resolution screen
[20:16] <BizMan> what do i need to do now to get it showing?
[20:16] <Christina18> Slart: so no need for pr then ?
[20:16] <BizMan> do i need to format it to fat32?
[20:16] <Jafet> Slart, that's fairly straightforward though.
[20:16] <BizMan> and then mount it?
[20:16] <SchneeSchwarz> tristil: you're welcome.
[20:16] <ccharles`> terminal: you can do things like "cd ~" in mc
[20:16] <nagyv> terminal: go to /home/yourusername/Desktop
[20:16] <tristil> SchneeSchwarz, not me.
[20:17] <zod_> how to config age of empire 2 trough Wine? please help me
[20:17] <jin> I have no flash in firefox3 :(
[20:17] <nagyv> terminal: Desktop might have a localised name if you use ubuntu on non-english
[20:17] <SchneeSchwarz> tristil: I know, sorry. Wrong autocompletion :-(
[20:17] <tristil> :)
[20:17] <niklas> I would like to see videos from a site. But I get a message saying I must have Windows Media Player. What should I install to be able to see videos on the site http://www.tv4.se/1.283438?videoId=1.344233&renderingdepartment=2.3949 ?
[20:17] <nagyv> zod_: playonlinux is a wine helper, might be it can help you!
[20:17] <brobostigon> zod_: wine setup.exe, wine ageofempires.exe
[20:18] <zod_> im quite an noob at Linux yet did install it for 4 days ago comand line please?
[20:19] <Ax-Ax> zod_, open a terminal
[20:19] <BizMan> anyone?
[20:19] <JonathanLahav> niklas: you need the browser plugin of totem.
[20:19] <zod_> terminal open and so? Ax-Ax?
[20:20] <saulus> hello, while upgrading tzdata I get the Error  post-installation script failed with error 2. When editing the script post-install (set -eux) I get /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: 19: DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND: parameter not set. What shall I do?
[20:20] <Jafet> Christina18, if you are a coder or know one, you could employ a PDF library like CPAN's cam-pdf to do is for you.
[20:20] <Ax-Ax> the field in the terminal is the cammand line
[20:20] <Jafet> Not a very exciting solution, but it should work.
[20:20] <danand> Bizman - do you want to share that new drive between windows and ubuntu?
[20:21] <saulus> anyone has similar problems with TZDATA?
[20:21] <dvoid> :( still locks
[20:22] <BizMan> just linux
[20:22] <saulus> I really need to fix this, otherwise aptitude doesnt work properly. I cant install/remove/change my software
[20:22] <BizMan> no windows
[20:22] <Jafet> Bizman, gparted?
[20:22] <BizMan> i have it installed
[20:22] <BizMan> and i formatted it ext3
[20:22] <Jafet> Hmm.
[20:22] <BizMan> but it says now that i have 7.5gb out of 480 in use
[20:22] <BizMan> how is tha tpossible?
[20:22] <BizMan> i ahvent done anything else
[20:22] <Jafet> Well have you opened to filesystem to check what is iside?
[20:22] <minimec> niklas: I wasn't able to watch a movie from that site, even with the totem plugin... Maybe the player-plugin does it...
[20:23] <saulus> isnt anyone able to help me?
[20:23] <tyson_> tyson@MASTERCLASS:~$ sudo apt-get update k3b
[20:23] <tyson_> E: The update command takes no arguments
[20:23] <tyson_> tyson@MASTERCLASS:~$ sudo apt-get install k3b
[20:23] <tyson_> Reading package lists... Done
[20:23] <tyson_> Building dependency tree
[20:23] <tyson_> Reading state information... Done
[20:23] <FloodBot1> tyson_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <tyson_> Package k3b is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:23] <minimec> niklas: mplayer-plugin...
[20:23] <ArthurArchnix> Totem wont' play this dvd... I've installed DVD codecs from medibuntu. Ubuntu-restritcted extras.
[20:23] <ArthurArchnix> How to debug?
[20:23] <niklas> minerale, tried mplayer-plugin. Maybe I should remove totem plugin first?
[20:24] <saulus> HELP. While upgrading tzdata I get the Error  post-installation script failed with error 2. When editing the script post-install (set -eux) I get /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: 19: DEBIAN_HAS_FRONTEND: parameter not set. What shall I do?
[20:24] <astro76> ArthurArchnix: I would first try VLC, it'll support the dvd menus too whereas totem doesn't yet
[20:24] <Paarth> I'm having trouble logging in to my box. i'm at the well.... welcome screen I guess you would call it, and everything is typed in correctly, but it won't go in to my account. the screen turns black and then just comes back to the welcome screen. this happens even if I change the setting (I've tried fluxbox, kde, MVM, failsafe....) I tried using console login, removed /tmp/.X0-lock and did...
[20:24] <Paarth> ...startx but I got errors and the server refused to start. could somebody help?
[20:25] <ArthurArchnix> astro76: Yeah... I was able to play it in VLC. Totem doesn't even support menus?
[20:25] <danand> Bizman - thats the lost+found folder. This is the amount of space reserved for the super user in case of problems with that drive - ie if the drive gets full the super user still has some space left for important system files. You can shrink the ammount of space reserved for the super user though ...  give one tick and i'll have a look for the command
[20:25] <ar0nic> guys ive manually added a few more resolutions into the xorg,conf then restarted X however i still only have th 3 resolutions in the system, preferences, resolution screen
[20:25] <astro76> ArthurArchnix: nope, believe it or not ;)
[20:25] <ArthurArchnix> astro76: Well, they are a pretty new feature. :P
[20:25] <ompaul> !paste | tyson_  (do this for text more than two lines)
[20:26] <ubotu> tyson_  (do this for text more than two lines): pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:26] <lemmy> hi, after an update to hardy 6 I'm stuck with a broken network-manager. for some reason it's not connecting to a network although it shows up in the nm-applet
[20:26] <astro76> lemmy: #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[20:26] <JonathanLahav> ar0nic, I had a similar problem, and the cause was the screen driver. It used plug n play instead of the right driver. I changed it and relogged.
[20:26] <lemmy> astro76: thx
[20:27] <PMantis> Does anyone have a *simple* .deb packaging guide? I need to package a bash shell script - so no need for make, ./configure, etc. Google, Ubuntu Wiki, etc = no success yet.
[20:27] <zod_> can some one please help me? im new to Linux (ubuntu 7.10) and dont want to go back to microsoft all i want to have help with now is to config my age of empire 2 in Wine
[20:27] <ArthurArchnix> Well, it more than just menus I think, because if I open any VOB on the disc I get can't play errors, or else it plays but its just a silent black screen.
[20:27] <ar0nic> JonathanLahav
[20:27] <Flannel> PMantis: #ubuntu-motu would be your best chance of having tha answered
[20:27] <ar0nic> what vid carwd?
[20:27] <PMantis> motu?
[20:27] <PMantis> hmm
[20:28] <Paarth> anybody have any idaes on what to do?
[20:28] <danand> BizMan - see the man page of mke2fs. the option you want is -m. ie sudo mke2fs -m 5 /path_to_disk ... the "5" there is the percentage of space reserved for the superuser ie on 100Gb drive that would equate to 5Gb reserved
[20:28] <astro76> zod_: you might try #winehq
[20:29] <Ace2016> !seen MasterAslan
[20:30] <StefanW> Hey again
[20:30] <Ace2016> Hi
[20:30] <StefanW> I need some basic help concerning refresh rates
[20:30] <danand> BizMan - Read the man page and make sure the drive is unmounted first though :)
[20:30] <BizMan> ok thanks
[20:31] <StefanW> say I know my monitor can do 75 Hz at 1280 x 800, would this 75 Hz be the horizontal or the vertical refresh rate?
[20:32] <ccharles`> StefanW: I *think* that's the vertical refresh rate.
[20:32] <JonathanLahav> ar0nic: not video card! screen driver
[20:32] <JonathanLahav> my video card is ati
[20:32] <JonathanLahav> old one
[20:32] <Flannel> StefanW: its vertical.  The lines scan horizontally across the screen.
[20:32] <StefanW> thanks :)
[20:33] <StefanW> would you guys also happen to know what the value gnome displays is?
[20:33] <ArthurArchnix> Strange. I wonder if regionset would be the problem. How do I check the disc region and my current region?
[20:33] <tyson_> sFEARS: u dere ?
[20:33] <sFEARs> yup
[20:34] <tyson_> sFEARS: tried wot u said bt says it's nt available... any oda sugestions ?
[20:34] <chazco> Hi... Gusty has tried to update on two of my computers, and frozen at "Configuring ubuntu-docs"... any ideas?
[20:34] <JonathanLahav> yes
[20:34] <JonathanLahav> it did not froze! it took about ten minutes!!
[20:35] <ar0nic> chazco
[20:35] <ar0nic> servers are slow i think
[20:35] <ar0nic> it took about 10 minutes on my end
[20:35] <chazco> Its downloaded, just configuring...
[20:35] <JonathanLahav> it's not the download
[20:35] <chazco> No network activity
[20:35] <JonathanLahav> the configuration takes about ten minutes...
[20:35] <StefanW> same here chazco, the download is quick but the actual configuring is taing a long time :)
[20:35] <ar0nic> it took a while on my end
[20:35] <chazco> I killed the process on my desktop, i've left my laptop for now
[20:35] <ar0nic> i walked away
[20:35] <chazco> Hmm, weird...
[20:35] <chazco> Anyone know what its actually doing?
[20:35] <St0n3-C0l> Hmm...does anyone will let me know, what's the best method in Winrar app for reducing the file-size to maximum. "Best" or "Fastest" ?
[20:36] <StefanW> "best"
[20:36] <chazco> Hmm... it just finished
[20:36] <chazco> My desktop was sat for ages compared to this
[20:36] <JonathanLahav> chazco: probably updating many little things in many places?
[20:36] <iareyez> kivirc2 is the better irc client for me... =D
[20:36] <sFEARs> tyson_ system/administration/synaptic package manager... settings/repositories/ubuntu software... & make sure the (main) + (universe) repositories are enabled & try again
[20:36] <StefanW> fastest features the lowest compression, best gives the highest compression
[20:36] <faruk_> good evening
[20:36] <xb3rt> how do i set my display to 32 bit on ubuntu gutsy
[20:36] <St0n3-C0l> StefanW: You sure? Cos it's a 4gb file and while I did with Fastest. the .rar file was very less but with best on 6% it crossed 200+ mb
[20:37] <StefanW> 24 bit = 24 bit
[20:37] <tyson_> sFEARs: il try, thanx alot
[20:37] <StefanW> 32 = 24, sorry. lol
[20:37] <JonathanLahav> you mean 24 = 32?
[20:37] <St0n3-C0l> stefanW: hmm..
[20:37] <JonathanLahav> 24linux  = 32 windows.
[20:37] <St0n3-C0l> So a 4gb file will be how many gbs ?
[20:37] <St0n3-C0l> any idea?
[20:38] <StefanW> god knows, depends on what type of file it is
[20:38] <St0n3-C0l> it's movies
[20:38] <St0n3-C0l> .wmv format
[20:38] <rsk> gbs = ?
[20:38] <St0n3-C0l> I am on windows atm. cos of it
[20:38] <St0n3-C0l> rsk: gigabits
[20:38] <St0n3-C0l> :D
[20:38] <rsk> chek wikipedia
[20:38] <StefanW> "best" should give you the highest ammount of compression
[20:39] <St0n3-C0l> hmm
[20:39] <StefanW> and will take the longest :)
[20:39] <St0n3-C0l> oki thnx
[20:39] <St0n3-C0l> lol yeah
[20:39] <St0n3-C0l> it does
[20:39] <differentreality> hi :)  does anyone know with which program I can generate multiple graphs on the same image ?
[20:39] <StefanW> the difference between normal / best may not be much by the way :)
[20:39] <chazco> Anyone using the new Truecrypt 5.1 on Gusty? Does it still stall when performing large write operations?
[20:39] <danand> differentreality - gnuplot?
[20:39] <St0n3-C0l> StefanW: If I do the fastest one? and access the files from that .rar will the quality of movies be compromised?
[20:39] <differentreality> let me try it
[20:40] <StefanW> no, winrar merely compresses files.. it does not affect the actual file
[20:40] <JFactor> I loaded Frets on Fire, I click on it and immeadiately the screen goes black there is a cursor then the game crashes. I am using an Nvidia 6150 card on a AMD64 can anyone help me fix this problem?
[20:40] <StefanW> every bit of data will still be there, but in a compressed state
[20:40] <StefanW> acessing the files will mean you have to extract the rar file though
[20:40] <St0n3-C0l> Yup
[20:40] <differentreality> danand, mmm maybe with graphic interface ?
[20:41] <JonathanLahav> which irc client are u using? (i'm on pidgin, am I missing something?)
[20:41] <lilg111111> how do you mount an external hard drive
[20:42] <n9nu> anyone around for a network related ?
[20:42] <StefanW> using a commandline tool, lmfao... X-Chat is a nice one :)
[20:42] <n9nu> mount /dev/xxx /mnt/yyy
[20:42] <StefanW> n9nu: what is the problem
[20:42] <n9nu> ok
[20:42] <St0n3-C0l> stefanw: I'll download a new version of winrar eh
[20:42] <differentreality> is there maybe some way for me to see the packages that I installed through last week ?
[20:42] <warlink> I could really need some1 who know something about networks aswell..
[20:42] <JFactor> I loaded Frets on Fire, I click on it and immediately the screen goes black there is a cursor then the game crashes. I am using an Nvidia 6150 card on a AMD64 can anyone help me fix this problem?
[20:43] <Seveas> differentreality, /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:43] <danand> differentreality - :) gnuplot's not exactly the most user friendly program, i agree.... but if you stick with it a while it's actually v good. That aside, i think there is another package with gui ... wait one and i'll try and remember its name...
[20:43] <Seveas> !repeat | JFactor
[20:43] <ubotu> JFactor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:43] <JFactor> sorry
[20:43] <StefanW> JFactor: in a terminal, do "glxinfo | grep render" and post the output
[20:43] <differentreality> :)
[20:43] <n9nu> I have a DS3 here at home for the WISP and I have a single ethernet cable coming into my room....that cable goes to this linux box (147.71.147.194) and I have another static IP I want to use with another machine next to this one
[20:43] <cirilo> or http://ubuntuforums.org
[20:43] <n9nu> that ip ends in .195
[20:44] <JFactor> StefanW: Where do I post it?
[20:44] <n9nu> can i run the incoming cable into a HUB and then run both machines with the two IP's from that
[20:44] <StefanW> JFactor: on the forums with your problem.. or pastebin (paste.ubuntu.org)
[20:44] <n9nu> I have this machine working off the hub now
[20:44] <n9nu> but when I try the other machine with the .195 address it will not work.
[20:45] <StefanW> n9nu: ugh, hang on... let me get a decent irc client :)
[20:46] <JFactor> StefanW: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59850/
[20:46] <danand> !info dx | differentreality
[20:46] <ubotu> differentreality: dx (source: dx): OpenDX (IBM Visualization Data Explorer) - main package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.4.0-3 (gutsy), package size 4070 kB, installed size 12708 kB
[20:46] <differentreality> mmm i found gnumeric :) this is the one i had installed but couldnt remember its name
[20:46] <differentreality> hmm let me check this one too :))
[20:46] <n9nu> {}------->Hub[20:46] <JonathanLahav> Seveas are you here?
[20:46] <fung> is it normal to have some python process running which has /etc/passwd opened?
[20:46] <differentreality> i'll be dealing with graphs a lot :)
[20:46] <differentreality> thank you both so much
[20:47] <danand> differentreality - np
[20:47] <differentreality> oh, and one more thing... could I add gnumeric under applications cause it wasnt added automatically... dont know why :/
[20:47] <geirha> fung: that's probably the user switcher applet
[20:48] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, for values of 'here' I am here
[20:48] <fung> geirha: sudo ?
[20:48] <tyson_> Wots d best DVD/CD burner software available for Gutsy gibbon ?
[20:49] <JFactor> StefanW: I really dont know what this is telling me
[20:49] <rsk> Tyczek: k3b
[20:49] <geirha> fung: the applet at the top panel that allows you to switch user
[20:49] <fung> hrm
[20:49] <warlink> any1 know how to get the network manager to work when it ca't find any network devices..?
[20:49] <Tyczek> rsk, huh?
[20:49] <danand> differentreality - system -> preferences -> Main Menu .... find gnumeric and check its tickbox
[20:49] <Polarina> tyson_: There's no such thing as "best" or "better", it's a matter of preference and it varies between persons.
[20:49] <Lyricaldogg> rsk : mst b gud bt i can not install it
[20:49] <rsk> ups.
[20:49] <rsk> Lyricaldogg: why not?
[20:49] <ar0nic> !raalink
[20:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raalink - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <ar0nic> !ralink
[20:50] <Lyricaldogg> rsk: i can not even download it ... lol
[20:50] <rsk> Lyricaldogg: not even via synaptic ?
[20:50] <helpmeplease> I've just mounted my old fat32 drive and deleted some files to make space and they ahve gone but I haven't freed up the space?  looks like the drive is owned by root having inspected further.  how do I free up the space now? the files are gone?!!
[20:50] <Lyricaldogg> nop
[20:50] <Lyricaldogg> lol
[20:50] <rsk> Lyricaldogg: no error or anything?
[20:50] <fung> helpmeplease: did you use the command line or were you in a GUI file manager?
[20:50] <Lyricaldogg> rsk : sudo apt-get install k3b ----- nothing##
[20:50] <helpmeplease> nautilus
[20:50] <Lyricaldogg> rek : check private
[20:51] <stroyan> n9nu:  You diagram looks like one PC connected to another rather than both connected to a hub.
[20:51] <fung> empty your recycle bin
[20:51] <Z_God> when I plug in a usb flash disk, I can mount it as a user, but not write to it as that user
[20:51] <Z_God> what did I do wrong?
[20:51] <n9nu> [inet}------>[gig.hub][20:51] <helpmeplease> the trash is empty
[20:51] <n9nu> yeah i know
[20:51] <helpmeplease> ?!
[20:51] <n9nu> the [20:51] <n9nu> s
[20:51] <differentreality> danand, ok got it tnx :)
[20:51] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a way to printscreen and paste it directly to word without having to save it first as an image?
[20:51] <n9nu> from the hub out to two PC's
[20:51] <fung> that should have done it, try using du -h to check and see if there are differences between what nautilus is reporting
[20:51] <ar0nic> any network guru's around?
[20:51] <fung> they may have not updated
[20:51] <^u^> helpmeplease, in a terminal type  ls -a /root/.Trash
[20:51] <helpmeplease> fung: the trash is empty.... it was 18GB of files and it says I only have 2.1gb free
[20:51] <harm> Hey i have a rather large music libary (7100songs) and now i want to clean that beast up..
[20:52] <stroyan> n9nu:  Did you set the static IP in the same way on both PCs?  Can one ping the other?
[20:52] <harm> Hey i have a rather large music libary (7100songs) and now i want to clean that beast up.. Whats a good software to edit IDE3 Tags and find album art?
[20:52] <ccharles`> ar0nic: just ask your specific question, please
[20:52] <fung> nautilus may just not be updating
[20:52] <helpmeplease> fung: ls: /root/.Trash: No such file or directory
[20:52] <n9nu> no....I have two static IP's I can use for these...one for each box..
[20:52] <n9nu> i can get local yes
[20:52] <dgjones> harm, don't know about album art, but easytag is good for editing the mp3 tags
[20:52] <n9nu> i mean i can ping the other box
[20:53] <fung> helpmeplease: run it on the whole partition and see if the grand total matches your expectations
[20:53] <danand> harm - editing IDE3 tags can be done with easytag
[20:53] <ar0nic> with my linksys wireless nic plugged up everything becomes extremely buggy, x restarts will lag, programs wont open
[20:53] <n9nu> i was wondering if i need a dedicated route or gateway
[20:53] <ar0nic> the computer also will not boot or shutdown properly with the wireless nic plugged in.
[20:53] <helpmeplease> fung: yeah it does
[20:53] <n9nu> the gateway is 208.71.147.193 and mask is 255.255.255.240
[20:53] <helpmeplease> fung: how do I empty that?
[20:53] <fung> meaning the drive is still full?
[20:54] <ar0nic> on a hardboot it will freeze on stopping wpa_supplicant interfaces
[20:54] <helpmeplease> fung: yeah the drive has those files in .Trash
[20:54] <fung> not sure
[20:54] <fung> maybe something still has it open
[20:54] <BuckWild> is there something wrong with the repositories?
[20:55] <BuckWild> anyone else getting really slow d/l speeds from them?
[20:55] <stroyan> n9nu:  I would be suspicious that the hub is really more complicated and preventing access to the 208.71.147.195 address.  Are you sure you have a simple hub there?
[20:55] <BuckWild> I thought it was my router but then I pinged google and it looks fine
[20:55] <ar0nic> man this chan is moving along super fast
[20:55] <brobostigon> BuckWild: iam getiing 200kbps +
[20:55] <ptn107> BuckWild: yeah i am in both gutsy and hardy
[20:55] <StefanW> just got 1300 Kbyte off the repos
[20:55] <BuckWild> hmm
[20:55] <BuckWild> maybe it is my router then
[20:55] <BuckWild> or comcast
[20:55] <BuckWild> heh
[20:55] <BuckWild> thanks
[20:55] <n9nu> oops..its a switch
[20:55] <n9nu> no router in this one
[20:55] <helpmeplease> fung: just selected and deleted. it worked
[20:55] <n9nu> Linksys DGS-xxx
[20:55] <helpmeplease> fung: cheers
[20:56] <ar0nic> on a hardboot it will freeze on stopping wpa_supplicant interfaces <---what does this error mean
[20:56] <n9nu> I know i can connect the incoming cable to the router and then go to bot machines
[20:56] <n9nu> but i wanted to use both IP;s
[20:56] <ar0nic> if the wireless nic card is plugged on boot it freezes at "Starting common unix printing system : cupsd
[20:56] <n9nu> if i can....if not, no biggie
[20:56] <ar0nic> and it sits.
[20:56] <Gopher> v
[20:57] <hackeron> hey, can anyone recommend a sip or aix client for Linux that has echo cancellation that works with a speakerphone (speakers and desktop microphone)?
[20:57] <rahduke> Hey can someone help me out?
[20:58] <lebear> yei
[20:58] <cristian_> hello
[20:58] <rahduke> anyone know anything about resetting the samba .conf file?
[20:59] <Lyricaldogg> rsk : did u get it ?
[20:59] <Seveas> rahduke, you want to reset it to the defaults completely, not retaining a bit of the current one?
[20:59] <rahduke> yes
[20:59] <rahduke> i messed this file up beyond repair
[21:00] <cristian_> i have one question
[21:00] <n9nu>  /etc/init.d/smb restart
[21:00] <minimec> rahduke: You want a clean samba.conf? Backup the old one and delete it afterwards. then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[21:00] <rahduke> i've done that
[21:00] <rahduke> oh wait
[21:00] <rahduke> k let me try that
[21:01] <Seveas> rahduke, rm /etc/samba/smb.conf && apt-get install --reinstall --force-confmiss samba
[21:01] <ghfreak51> hey
[21:01] <ghfreak51> is jacksparrow here
[21:01] <pal> hi! just a newbie here....I would like to run a python application, I have the python interpreter, but how do I run something?
[21:02] <Seveas> pal, python filename.py
[21:02] <pal> thanks!
[21:02] <Gopher> i have a problem with seeing my ubuntu box's shared folders on other computers on the network
[21:02] <Gopher> i have them shared, visible, in the right workgroup and whatnot
[21:03] <Matic`Makovec> What's the package for managing compiz named again?
[21:03] <cristian_> ii have a problem with my tv tuner :(
[21:03] <dgjones> !ccsm | Matic`Makovec
[21:03] <ubotu> Matic`Makovec: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:03] <tomtommy> when does new version Ubuntu come out?
[21:03] <ar0nic> !linksys
[21:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linksys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:03] <ar0nic> !wireless
[21:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:03] <tomtommy> !new version
[21:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about new version - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:03] <pal> anyway to do that through Gnome seveas?
[21:03] <Matic`Makovec> Thank you, dgjones
[21:04] <tomtommy> when does Ubuntu version 8.0 come out?
[21:04] <Seveas> pal, open a gnome-terminal and do this ;)
[21:04] <rahduke> oh man I made a big mistake
[21:04] <Seveas> tomtommy, it's 8.04 and it's scheduled for late april
[21:04] <Seveas> !hardy | tomtommy
[21:04] <ubotu> tomtommy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:04] <pal> okay
[21:04] <rahduke> i just accidentally deleted my smb.conf file
[21:04] <stroyan> n9nu:  Can you configure the first system as 208.71.147.195 and the non-working system as 208.71.147.194 and see that which works through the hub?  That would confirm that the problem is with an address or with one system's configuration.
[21:04] <tomtommy> Seveas, ok
[21:04] <Stargazer> I need a better screen recorder than istanbul and xvidcap, any suggestions ?
[21:04] <rahduke> and its not in the trash
[21:04] <hackeron> anyone managed to get speakers and a microphone working in Linux? - Ekiga gives me terrible echo - is there anything that works better?
[21:04] <n9nu> sure
[21:04] <tomtommy> Hardy Heroin?
[21:05] <rahduke> cant reset samba anymore
[21:05] <n9nu> lemme set this box to .195
[21:05] <tomtommy> why are they calling the new version Ubuntu Heroin?
[21:05] <Squawk_> Heron
[21:05] <minimec> rahduke: You find it in the .trash folder of /root
[21:05] <tomtommy> rahduke, can u undelete delted files?
[21:05] <differentreality> does anyone know maybe how i could add multiple graphs under same axis using openoffice calc ?
[21:05] <Seveas> tomtommy, Heron, not Heroin, it's an animal
[21:05] <rahduke> hmm let me see
[21:05] <tomtommy> minimec, what is the trash has been emptied? can we get the files back?
[21:06] <rahduke> no its not in the /root trash
[21:06] <minimec> tomtommy: nope.
[21:06] <tomtommy> Seveas, so the new version Ubuntu is an animal? :)
[21:06] <Seveas> tomtommy, all versions are
[21:06] <rahduke> man i really screwed the pooch
[21:06] <tomtommy> minimec, no way at all to get a file back that has been emptied from trashcan?
[21:06] <Seveas> rahduke, language please
[21:06] <rahduke> sorry
[21:06] <Squawk_> !releases > Squawk
[21:06] <tomtommy> rahduke, LOL
[21:07] <crashhandler> how to run synaptic from xfce?i can see any...i run xubuntu
[21:07] <crashhandler> cant*
[21:07] <tomtommy> rahduke, I think the FBI can get your file back. give them a call ;)
[21:07] <rahduke> hahaha
[21:07] <Squawk> !releases > Squawk
[21:07] <vlt> Hello. I ran memtest from the Ubuntu GRUB menu. memtest recognizes the 64 MB of RAM, but when the test runs I get errors only. More than 1.5 million now that it passed 55% of all tests. All errors are located between 127.0 and 127.4 MB (on a 64 MB machine). Any idea what's wrong here?
[21:07] <rahduke> is there anything i can do?
[21:07] <minimec> tomtommy: I am not able to tell you exactly, if it is possible, but I can tell you that it is definitly not easy
[21:07] <tomtommy> rahduke, I just lrarned myself that apparetly once our files are deleted, only the FBI can undelete them (Maybe)
[21:08] <popey> Stargazer: recordmydesktop ?
[21:08] <tomtommy> minimec, thats amazing
[21:08] <Stargazer> Ty popey
[21:08] <Squawk> !names | tomtommy
[21:08] <ubotu> tomtommy: Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[21:08] <tomtommy> Squawk, are you named after an eagle?
[21:08] <rahduke> if i reinstall samba will that work?
[21:09] <Squawk> tomtommy, offtopic, but actually I have a parrot as an avatar on certain forums
[21:09] <Gopher> i have trouble seeing samba's shared folders on the network
[21:09] <N9N> ok
[21:09] <jin> hi, what is the utility called to allow users to mount devices??
[21:09] <tomtommy> Squawk, :)
[21:09] <rahduke> it did work
[21:09] <tomtommy> rahduke, cool :)
[21:09] <N9N> [22:03] [Whois] n9nu is n=n9nu@208.71.147.194 (Tim D)
[21:09] <N9N> I am 194 now
[21:09] <stroyan> N9N:  Well, It looks like it is the particular system config and not the IP.
[21:09] <N9N> opos you wanted 195
[21:10] <Squawk> jin, utility? you can add the option "user" to /etc/fstab to allow users to mount devices/partitions
[21:10] <vlt> jin: Maybe pmount
[21:10] <jin> vlt: thanks, that's what I need. forgot the name
[21:10] <N9N> lemme change that
[21:11] <stroyan> N9N:  N9N is .195 and n9nu is .194
[21:11] <cristian_> pls is someone to help me? i have a tv tuner dtv 2000 h leadtek and i can't make working
[21:11] <N9N> ois] N9N is n=n9nu@208.71.147.195 (Tim D)
[21:11] <N9N> there we go
[21:11] <threeseas> help - can I resize an extended partition, shrinking it into the space of one logical partition without damaging the content of a second logical partition in the same extended partition?
[21:12] <ddelony> Does anyone have the Dells with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[21:12] <N9NU-195> other machine set to .194
[21:12] <pwuertz> ddelony: yes
[21:12] <N9NU-195> same mask/gateway
[21:12] <ddelony> pwuertz: How are they?
[21:13] <jin> $ pmount /dev/hda1  /home/jin/H/
[21:13] <jin> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[21:13] <stroyan> N9NU-195:  The problem is following one machine then instead of one of the IPs.
[21:13] <jin> what does that mean?
[21:13] <pwuertz> ddelony: i got an inspiron 1525.... its great...
[21:13] <Seveas> jin, don't use pmount
[21:13] <N9NU-195> ok...
[21:13] <WildChild7> How can I burn with ubuntu ?  I am on feisty
[21:13] <pwuertz> ddelony: +webcam, +bluetooth out of the box
[21:13] <N9NU-195> i can run a cable to the cisco network in the other room then
[21:13] <RickKnight> amenado, Are you here today?
[21:14] <N9NU-195> and bypass my local setup here
[21:14] <ddelony> pwuertz: Did you get the Dell-branded monitor?
[21:14] <Lyricaldogg> quit
[21:14] <threeseas> cristian: try "tv tuner dtv 2000 h leadtek linux" as a search on google
[21:14] <minimec> WildChild7: For data: nautilus... for evrything brasero
[21:14] <n9nu__> thank you for the try
[21:15] <klass> ciao
[21:15] <threeseas> oh well they left
[21:15] <WildChild7> I mean I know how can I burn with embeded bur:/// but where is an option to chooce writing speed and everything ?
[21:15] <WildChild7> bur=burn
[21:15] <mikebot> Am I allowed to ask a question about LaTeX in here?... it's LaTeX in ubuntu... heh.
[21:15] <Brutality> hey
[21:16] <pwuertz> WildChild7: you could wait for hardy heron.. it comes with a more sophisticated burning tool
[21:16] <pwuertz> mikebot: if its ubuntu specific ^^
[21:16] <mikebot> pwuertz: =\ OK...
[21:16] <minimec> WildChild7: Don't hang me on that, but my burner seems to butn in burning-proof mode by default. So burning quality is no problem.
[21:16] <WildChild7> pwuertz: that's brilliant idea... Anyone else ?
[21:16] <ccharles`> WildChild7: you can install Brasero (GTK) or K3B (Qt). both of them are pretty good.
[21:16] <ddelony> K3b is pretty good, even if it's a KDE app.
[21:16] <WildChild7> ccharles`: tanx
[21:17] <klass> ce' qualche italiano in linea?
[21:17] <klass> grazie
[21:17] <Seveas> !it | klass
[21:17] <ubotu> klass: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:17] <Brutality> sorry for my noobiness but this is my first linux use ever.. where do i start when i wanna see what progs i can down for ubuntu?
[21:17] <Seveas> Brutality, applications --> add/remove
[21:17] <Brutality> will it have a list?
[21:17] <Seveas> yes
[21:18] <Brutality> ok thx
[21:18] <klass> ho problemi con amule
[21:18] <klass> chi sa' aiutarmi!
[21:18] <Ace2016> he he, bosd in windows xp
[21:18] <brobostigon> Brutality: try synaptic as well
[21:18] <Seveas> !it | klass
[21:18] <ubotu> klass: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:18] <rahduke> Thanks for the help, I'm close to fixing my problem
[21:18] <Ace2016> in virtualbox
[21:18] <Brutality> whats that
[21:18] <zod_> is the new 8.04 any good to install on realise or wait some days before install?
[21:18] <pros977> ifconfig
[21:18] <brobostigon> Brutality: synaptic downloads and install progs for you
[21:19] <pros977> sorry wrong window
[21:19] <Seveas> !hardy | zod_
[21:19] <ubotu> zod_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:19] <rahduke> 1 more questions if someone can help, I messed up Mplayer pretty badly now I can't re-install it, there are alot of dependency issues
[21:19] <rahduke> can anyone help me out
[21:19] <Brutality> also, is it easy to get itunes running for my iphone
[21:19] <danand> Brutality - System -> Admin -> Synaptics Package Manager
[21:19] <Brutality> ok thx a lot
[21:19] <jin> Seveas: how do u alow user mount via fstab then?
[21:19] <joe_> hey
[21:19] <tutul> hello
[21:19] <joe_> anyone here?
[21:20] <Seveas> jin, removable drives should be automounted
[21:20] <joe_> oh
[21:20] <jin> Seveas: they are internal drives
[21:20] <Parsec300> Hi, is it normal for Ubuntu to crash completely during fast-user-switch? With an ATi Radeon Xpress 1100 card in an Acer 5100 laptop?
[21:20] <brobostigon> joe_: there re 1307 peple here.
[21:20] <Seveas> jin, why usermounts then?
[21:20] <danand> jin - add "users" to the option list
[21:20] <Seveas> (btw, option 'user' or 'users', depending on your needs, should do what you want)
[21:20] <spydon> Parsec300, shouldnt be...
[21:21] <Brutality> do i need to install any hardware drivers like in windows?
[21:21] <brobostigon> Brutality: what for??
[21:21] <jpatrick> !yay | jmesquita
[21:21] <ubotu> jmesquita: Glad you made it! :-)
[21:21] <Seveas> Brutality, possibly, if you have an ati or nvidia video card go to system -> admin -> restricted drivers
[21:21] <jin> /dev/hda1       /home/jin/E     defaults,users 0 0
[21:21] <jin> still get permission error
[21:21] <Seveas> jin, windows drive?
[21:21] <Brutality> ok thx for the help guys
[21:21] <jmesquita> ubotu | jpatrick: Thank you
[21:21] <jin> Seveas: yea
[21:21] <thehumanerror> I just installed smartmontools
[21:22] <Parsec300> spydon, any chance you know where to look for the problem?
[21:22] <Seveas> !windowsdrives | jin
[21:22] <ubotu> jin: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:22] <ccharles`> jin: I think it's 'user' not 'users'
[21:22] <thehumanerror> sorry, I just installed smartmontools and it suggest a package to get the program "mail"
[21:22] <thehumanerror> and it's installed exim
[21:22] <thehumanerror> do I need to make sure exim isn't externally accessible?
[21:22] <spydon> Parsec300, see if it crashes when you do the same on the live cd maybe...
[21:22] <thehumanerror> I just installed the mailx package
[21:23] <Seveas> thehumanerror, you rather do not want exim to be externally visible :)
[21:23] <thehumanerror> no I surely do not
[21:23] <rahduke> Can anyone help me out with Mplayer, I un-installed it because i was having some issues. Now when i try to re-install there are tons of dependency issues.
[21:23] <rahduke> specifically with libc6
[21:24] <thehumanerror> I don't really want it at all, but it it's necessary for smartmontools to warn me about disc problems then so be it
[21:24] <jin> that worked :-)
[21:24] <Seveas> rahduke, sounds like a messed up sources.list to me
[21:24] <jin> very helpful guys
[21:24] <rahduke> thats what synaptic keeps telling me
[21:24] <bsdnewb07> hi guys ive issued a shutdown -r now and it says The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[21:24] <Seveas> rahduke, pastebin your sources.list
[21:24] <bsdnewb07> but it wont reboot
[21:24] <danand> jin - :)
[21:24] <rahduke> but i can't seem to straighten it out, I've added every source i could find
[21:24] <rahduke> pastebin?
[21:24] <Seveas> !pastebin | rahduke
[21:25] <ubotu> rahduke: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:25] <Seveas> rahduke, and adding lots of sources often messes it up pretty bad
[21:25] <Rossi> ciao
[21:25] <Rossi> !list
[21:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:25] <Rossi> !list
[21:25] <Rossi> ciao
[21:25] <Rossi> !list
[21:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:26] <rahduke> thanks
[21:26] <zod_> where to go to get my wine 0.9.46 updated to 0.9.57?
[21:27] <jrib> zod_: winehq provides a repository
[21:27] <jrib> !wine > zod_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:27] <brobostigon> zod_: see if there is a .deb on wine's website??
[21:27] <thehumanerror> so, Exim is installed but it's safe?
[21:27] <zod_> ah tnx all
[21:27] <jin> problem. mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[21:27] <rahduke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59857/  Pastebin of my sources
[21:27] <Parsec300> spydon, that's a good way to check indeed. Just in case I'll also create two new user accounts, see if switching between those does the same if the CD works fine. On the other hand, as long as I have the ATi driver turned off (or Compiz...at not sure which one would be responsible) it works fine.
[21:28] <Seveas> jin, ntfs-3g
[21:28] <spydon> Parsec300, ah I see
[21:28] <spydon> Parsec300, I g2g now, bb
[21:29] <zod_> tnx for help all ;)
[21:29] <zod_> nn
[21:29] <rahduke> i think my source list is a total mess as well
[21:30] <Seveas> rahduke, it's beyond mess
[21:30] <Seveas> you probably broke your system already with it
[21:30] <Seveas> rahduke, NEVER, repeat, NEVER use debian sources on ubuntu and vice versa
[21:30] <jin> Seveas: I have that installed :\
[21:31] <rahduke> jesus
[21:31] <rahduke> please help
[21:31] <Seveas> rahduke, reinstall.
[21:31] <Jezz> hi
[21:31] <rahduke> reinstall what?
[21:31] <bsdnewb07> guys when i do shutdown -r now the server says its rebooting but it dosent and ssh stays open
[21:31] <jin> Seveas: what is teh module name for ntfs-3g?
[21:31] <bsdnewb07> why would that happen
[21:31] <Jezz> how do i install a .tar.gz package?
[21:31] <Traveler3> Hey guys. I've got a laptop running vista with a usb -> ethernet converter going out to my laptop running linux. I'd like to share the internet connection with my achlinux box, but it's not picking up on the connection (ehternet lights aren't lighting up). This method works if I replace the linux box with a mac or windows (or xbox)
[21:31] <Seveas> rahduke, your system
[21:31] <rahduke> really?
[21:31] <Seveas> rahduke, you probably broke too much for proper recovert
[21:31] <brobostigon> !compile | Jezz
[21:31] <ubotu> Jezz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[21:32] <kane77> my samba shares are not showing on windows box, why could that be?
[21:32] <Seveas> jin, you need to use ntfs-3g in /etc/fstab, not ntfs-fuse
[21:32] <Jezz> eh im new to linux
[21:32] <rahduke> i don't wanna lose all the stuff I have... I've got the theme just right, got all the programs I want
[21:32] <Jezz> what is compiling?
[21:32] <Jezz> i have vmware tools .tar.gz package
[21:32] <brobostigon> Jezz: just read that link, it will explain
[21:32] <rahduke> and i especially don't want to format my HD
[21:32] <Jezz> ok
[21:32] <Seveas> Jezz, then don't install .tar.gz packages, that's for experienced users
[21:32] <Jezz> well thats what vmware tools is
[21:32] <Seveas> vmware-tools can be found in the repositories
[21:32] <Jezz> oh
[21:32] <jin> Seveas: worked :-)
[21:32] <benbread> hey i'm running kubuntu 7.10 (AMD64) - when installing some programs (flightgear) it messed with my libc6 install and installed some strange version - in the process apt removed several things "no longer needed" in particular my graphics card xorg driver :| is there a way i can revert back to my old libc6 version? :S thanks for any help anyone can give
[21:33] <Seveas> !vmware | jezz
[21:33] <ubotu> jezz: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[21:33] <tokam> any critics to www.frogged.de ?
[21:33] <tokam> A link to my page would be vry nice. ;-)
[21:33] <jin> Seveas: any player similar to iTunes? I love the way iTunes sort my music files automatically.
[21:33] <Seveas> jin rhythmbox, banshee, amarok
[21:34] <DaRe_DeViL> hi people im very new to ubuntu
[21:34] <jin> DaRe_DeViL: so am I :P
[21:34] <Jezz> whats the desktop directory
[21:34] <DRebellion> Jezz, ~/Desktop
[21:34] <DaRe_DeViL> im trying to discover even irc
[21:34] <Jezz> ok
[21:34] <DaRe_DeViL> very very hard stuff
[21:34] <rahduke> whats the easiest way for me to reinstall ubuntu, without losing my downloads, and hopefully without losing some of my programs
[21:34] <benbread> tokam: any chance you can tone down the green? ;)
[21:35] <xoqa> if i install kde-games but don't like a certain one that comes with it, can i remove that one game without removing the kde-games library? and how could this be accomplished if so?
[21:35] <DRebellion> rahduke, copy your downloads to a cd or flash drive. get the debs for your programs out of the cache and keep those aswell to install on the new system.
[21:35] <TaRDy> amarok doesn't play WMA files, does anybody know of a good converter for that?
[21:35] <Seveas> xoqa, no
[21:35] <Jezz> bash: ./vmware-install.pl: No such file or directory
[21:35] <Jezz> srry ima noob
[21:35] <DaRe_DeViL> how can i disconnect from this server
[21:35] <mad_max02> is there any need for check ext3 formated disk for fragmentation ????
[21:36] <Jezz> but is ./ the directory
[21:36] <xoqa> Seveas: ty
[21:36] <Seveas> DaRe_DeViL, /disconnect
[21:36] <kane77> TaRDy, afaik amarok plays wma
[21:36] <thehumanerror> I have converted WMA before
[21:36] <DRebellion> Jezz, ./ refers to the current working directory (use the cd commmand to hcange it)
[21:36] <brobostigon> mad_max02: no
[21:36] <thehumanerror> I used... some uglyish GNOME app to do it
[21:36] <emeng> Is anyone familiar with how to disable DirectoryIndex in Apache for a specified directory (that is, under a specified directory, I only want directory contents to be listed, even if there is an index.htm*)
[21:36] <Jezz> eh ok
[21:36] <thehumanerror> I converted to FLAC to avoid the possibility of degrading the sound quality any more
[21:37] <rahduke> wow i really don't wanna do that, everything seems to work OK, I just cant re-install Mplayer. Is this really nessecary?
[21:37] <thehumanerror> the application is called SoundConverter
[21:37] <kane77> TaRDy, but you can always use soundconverter to convert to some free format.. (flac, ogg)
[21:37] <mad_max02> brobostigon, because hdd shows a bit slower operations
[21:37] <TaRDy> thank you kane77
[21:37] <thehumanerror> the package is called soundconverter
[21:37] <brobostigon> mad_max02: ext3 doesnt fragment in any way,
[21:37] <emeng> mad_max02:  there are no defragmentation tools for ext3, as far as I know
[21:38] <thehumanerror> defrag: tar up everything to another disc and drop it back again
[21:38] <DRebellion> Jezz, for example. when you open your terminal, you are in ~/ (which is shorthand for /home/username). you can use the command   cd ~/Desktop   to change your current directory to the Desktop directory.
[21:38] <thehumanerror> in fact, I think cp will copy the files in directory order and that will also defragment a filesystem
[21:38] <ctothej> what are the 'web' repositories for in sources.list?
[21:38] <thehumanerror> but you shouldn't have to do that, as they say, although I've never seen any evidence for or against
[21:38] <ctothej> i'm not used to seeing that... i thought there was just main universe and multiverse
[21:39] <thehumanerror> Jezz: you can also do "cp ~"
[21:39] <thehumanerror> without the slash
[21:39] <jin> ctothej: those are servers on the inetrnet where you get files form when you install software via pat-get
[21:39] <Jezz> pff i really cant get vmware tools to install
[21:39] <jin> apt-get*
[21:39] <Jezz> how can i see the drive letter of the dvd rom?
[21:39] <Frailmage> Hi, I am wondering if any one can help me with this. I am trying to find a simple server hosting software for Linux, I had originally tried Apache, but that went right over my head with the Linux version (I was originally trying to do it with Vista but that lead to frustration so I switched over to Ubuntu, as so I am very very new to using any Linux based OS)
[21:39] <Jezz> coz it only says CD/DVD rom
[21:39] <ctothej> jin: right... but what does the 'web' entry signify, i have never seen that before. what kind of software is in the web repo?
[21:39] <jin> Jezz: there is no drive letter in Ubuntu. they have names
[21:40] <Jezz> oh
[21:40] <DRebellion> Jezz, there is no such thing as drive letters in linux.
[21:40] <brobostigon> Jezz: if its mounted, df -h will show it
[21:40] <Jezz> ok
[21:40] <ccharles`> Jezz: vmware tools is something that you install inside a vm, not on the host machine. are you trying to install on the host machine, or a vm?
[21:40] <Jezz> in a vm -.-
[21:40] <jin> Jezz:  just pop a disc in the drive and see ;)
[21:40] <Jezz> lol im not that stupid
[21:40] <Jezz> but its the first time i use linux so
[21:40] <Pirate_Hunter> jin: well sdd/sdb/sdc can be seen as drive letters at least thats how i see them
[21:41] <Jezz> but i cant change the screen resolution, so i think i need vmware tools for that?
[21:41] <minimec> Jezz: If you only one drive, then it is always /dev/cdrom. Otherwise /dev/cdrom0 ... cdrom1
[21:41] <Jezz> aha
[21:41] <ccharles`> jezz, you should be able to use 'standard' resolutions (e.g. 800x600, 1024x768 etc.) without vmware-tools
[21:41] <Jezz> i cant
[21:41] <Frailmage> Can any one help me with my server problem?
[21:42] <Jezz> it asks keep reso or previous, when i click keep nothing happens
[21:42] <DRebellion> !ask | Frailmage
[21:42] <ubotu> Frailmage: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:42] <Jezz> in live cd it worked but i installed it to the drive and now nothing happens
[21:42] <ccharles`> Jezz: that's strange. what error do you get trying to install vmware-tools?
[21:42] <danj> hELLO
[21:43] <Jezz> eh, its more that i dont know how to install it lol
[21:43] <Frailmage> Sorry about that, then I asked befor but got no reply. But I am trying to find a very simple server hosting software for Ubuntu, as I am new at using any Linux based OS
[21:43] <Jezz> its the first time i touch linux :o
[21:43] <jpatrick> !apache | Frailmage
[21:43] <ubotu> Frailmage: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:43] <Sjimmie> Frailmage: server hosting software? What do you mean by that?
[21:43] <NB2000> Frailmage Apache is the choice of most.  What kind of issues were you having with apache?
[21:43] <Sjimmie> maybe he wants a mailserver :)
[21:44] <ccharles`> Jezz: the basic procedure is this: (1) in vmware, choose 'install vmware-tools' (2) navigate to cdrom mount, probably /media/cdrom (3) install deb file you find there, i.e. sudo dpkg -i vmware-tools*.deb
[21:44] <jpatrick> Sjimmie: "server hosting"
[21:44] <danj> Any CUPS-guru got some time to help me share my printer over the net (cant get it work :( ) ????????????????????????????
[21:44] <Frailmage> I want a server to host FTP, but I tried apache with windows (got a head ache and decided to give Ubuntu a try) and with linux setting it up even with an FAQ went far over my head.
[21:44] <miguel__> alguien de aqui tiene la xbox360?
[21:44] <Seveas> Frailmage, apache isn't ftp
[21:44] <jpatrick> !ftpd | Frailmage
[21:44] <ubotu> Frailmage: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[21:44] <Flannel> !es | miguel__
[21:44] <ubotu> miguel__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:44] <ccharles`> Frailmage: apache is a Web server, not FTP
[21:44] <ccharles`> Frailmage: try vsftpd
[21:45] <NB2000> Frailmage:  Quite different animals.
[21:45] <Frailmage> Sorry new at servers also, I want a server to host a site where I can receive my files from any where, and store other bits of data to retreive.
[21:45] <DaRe_DeViL> when i type whois to see my own nick i see a word tufffy.. how can i cahnge this word
[21:45] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: vsftpd is the easiest-to-configure ftp server that i've ever tried
[21:45] <Jezz> it looks pretty good, better than windows imo
[21:45] <Frailmage> Okay thanks
[21:45] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: change your ident in your client
[21:46] <NB2000> Frailmage:  I would suggest a lamp server install and add vsftpd.
[21:46] <Jezz> hope it gets easier over time coz i find it more frustrating than windows :O
[21:46] <DaRe_DeViL> patrick but how
[21:46] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: which client de you use?
[21:46] <Flannel> Frailmage: is it just you personally who will be connecting?
[21:46] <DaRe_DeViL> im using x-chat gnome
[21:47] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: hmm, I use irssi, sorry, don't know
[21:47] <Frailmage> Yes but I am going to be connecting from several different computers (along with different operating systems)
[21:47] <DaRe_DeViL> so we cant do that here by irc commands?
[21:47] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: ftp is the best way to go then...
[21:47] <DaRe_DeViL> and do u advice ur client jpatrick?
[21:47] <Frailmage> Okay then, thank you.
[21:47] <NB2000> And its cross platform. :)
[21:47] <ccharles`> Frailmage: be aware that FTP is completely unencrypted--it sends the user name and password in cleartext over the network.
[21:47] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: i'd use vsftpd for the server, and filezilla for any windows clients
[21:47] <Flannel> Frailmage: You might prefer SCP, which is sort of like FTP, but uses SSH instead.  There's literally no configuration needed serverside, and you can connect through a variety of programs.  Filezilla on windows, etc.
[21:48] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: I use /set username whatIWant
[21:48] <nick__> Hey, I'm trying to install KDE4 and I keep getting this error message from apt-get "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
[21:48] <nick__> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:48] <DaRe_DeViL> i see..ok thanks for help patrick
[21:48] <ccharles`> Frailmage: Flannel's suggestion to use SCP is better from a security standpoint, as well.
[21:48] <stevendemorez> I'm having an issue concerning my webcam and the program puredata
[21:48] <patoz> \list
[21:48] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: flannel brings up a good point, although vsftpd is fairly simple to configure to use ssl for encrypted transfers
[21:49] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: but nowhere near as easy as scp
[21:49] <Frailmage> It is not security I am worried about at the moment, it is just some music files, and various bits of info I need in a hurry.
[21:49] <stevendemorez> my webcam is v4l2 and I have eeexubuntu installed but I see no info concerning v4l2 listed in my programs yet any v4l2 compatible program picks up my webcam without an issue
[21:49] <Frailmage> mDemocritus: what does SCP stand for?
[21:49] <Seveas> Frailmage, Secure CoPy
[21:49] <sageb1> :o lotsa ppl
[21:50] <sageb1> but, who is actually "there"?
[21:50] <bsdnewb07> in ubuntu how can i list free space on a partition
[21:50] <jpatrick> sageb1: welcome to Hell, erm, I mean #ubuntu
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> lol
[21:50] <ccharles`> sageb1: lots of us :-)
[21:50] <jpatrick> see there's the Devil
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> i couldnt type even whois command
[21:50] <b_ecca> qtparted
[21:50] <ccharles`> sageb1: do you have a question?
[21:50] <Frailmage> Is there any share ware I can use for FTP hosting?
[21:50] <Frailmage> free ware*
[21:50] <DaRe_DeViL> i typed /nickserv whois dare_devil n nothing appears
[21:50] <Flannel> bsdnewb07: there's lots of ways.  You can look in the disk properties, `df -h`, many more.
[21:51] <jpatrick> DaRe_DeViL: /whois $nick
[21:51] <DaRe_DeViL> ty bro
[21:51] <Seveas> Frailmage, ubuntu has only free software
[21:51] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: vsftpd is free and open source
[21:51] <sageb1> no no, hell is any room where no one speaks because everyone is too busy, "doing things in rl"
[21:51] <ccharles`> Frailmage: on linux, most things are 'freeware' (as well as open source). all options presented so far (vsftpd, scp using openssh) are free.
[21:51] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: filezilla is also free
[21:51] <Frailmage> Okay, sorry I am very knew to the whole Linux idea.
[21:51] <fghfghfghh> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/evil
[21:52] <fghfghfghh> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/evil
[21:52] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: heh no problem we were all newbies once
[21:52] <sageb1> frailmage, did you use "apt-cache search ftp |grep "server"" to check and see if it is in the repositories
[21:52] <Seveas> mDemocritus, Flannel was born brilliant ;)
[21:52] <mDemocritus> hah
[21:53] <Frailmage> no not yet I will now though
[21:53] <sageb1> there is ftpd and ftpd-ssl
[21:53] <DaRe_DeViL> will try another irc programs guess
[21:53] <rahduke> what video codecs should i download for ubuntu?
[21:53] <DaRe_DeViL> ty patrick
[21:53] <jrib> !restricted > rahduke (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:53] <sageb1> rahduke, the nonfree codecs?
[21:54] <Seveas> rahduke, w32codecs from medibuntu (one of the 4 I pasted to you) and lots of things with gstreamer in the name :)
[21:54] <mDemocritus> Frailmage: sageb1's suggestion is good to find package names, but check out the packages that you find on google before just installing them
[21:54] <kane77> what do you think is better, virtualbox or qemu?
[21:54] <Seveas> kvm
[21:54] <jin> kane77: try both and see which one you like most?
[21:54] <ccharles`> kane77: I use KVM with qemu, which is going to be the 'official' Ubuntu virtualization product.
[21:55] <Frailmage> Okay now I am a bit confused. When you say find package names what exactly do you mean? I thought that sage's comment ment to search for the install file with the cmd promt (sorry know that is not the right name but can't remeber the linux version of it)
[21:55] <Squawk> Frailmage, id suggest having a look at proftpd, very simple to configure for a basic server, infinitely configurable once you know what you are doing
[21:55] <ccharles`> kane77: VirtualBox is supposed to be *very* easy to use, though.
[21:55] <Frailmage> okay
[21:55] <cripps>  I'm running ubuntu gutsy, and having issues with an intel ipw3945 wireless card. It was working ootb, but when I put a WEP password on the A.P. it automagically stopped working, and now kwifimanager doesn't even see a wireless interface. Has anybody run into this problem before?
[21:55] <Squawk> Frailmage, and it is the command prompt ;)
[21:55] <sageb1> there is also pure-ftpd, but wu-ftpd has gained popularity and dominance
[21:55] <kane77> ccharles`, and it's opensource too, right?
[21:55] <chewd> hi guys... im trying to edit my smb.conf  but it wont let me... how to i open text editor with root privs?
[21:56] <kane77> chewd, sudo vim file
[21:56] <jin> ff3 beta 4 has the same icons as ff2 on Linux but on Win, it has another icon set :\
[21:56] <Squawk> chewd, "sudo gedit smb.conf"
[21:56] <sageb1> one wonders if an ipw3945 has wep
[21:56] <chewd> sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf ??
[21:56] <Flannel> chewd: gksu gedit /etc/whatever/whatever
[21:56] <ccharles`> kane77: VirtualBox? um, sorta. there is an open source version (which is shipped with Ubuntu) and a closed-source commercial version with some extra bells and whistles.
[21:56] <Seveas> chewd, gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:56] <kane77> chewd, replace vim with any editor you like, and file with file you want to edit...
[21:56] <kane77> ccharles`, hmm.. okay I will try both...
[21:57] <JonathanLahav> I found a bug (?) in launchpad
[21:57] <mDemocritus> Frailmage, Squawk, ProFTPd is really good once you get it running, but it can be overwhelming to someone without much experience... i've experienced that before
[21:57] <chewd> lemme run this past you real quick
[21:57] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, then file a bug :)
[21:57] <Seveas> JonathanLahav, http://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[21:57] <chewd> ive been fighting with ubuntu to get it to see my windows network... i had netbeui causing probs
[21:57] <ronandi> anyone know a good java ide that has gobby features, but can compile too?
[21:57] <kane77> I only want to try different linux flavors without the possibility of messing up my partitions (last time I formated ubuntu partition)
[21:57] <chewd> so today i finally went through & removed netbios/netbeui from all the machines on my network
[21:57] <ccharles`> ronandi: eclipse is *huge*, but it's very good.
[21:57] <sageb1> To use WEP you must enable the crypto library support
[21:57] <chewd> took some doing
[21:57] <sageb1> (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)
[21:58] <chewd> but now ive gotta undo all the stuff i did to try to get ubuntu to play with netbios
[21:58] <chewd> i think i gotta turn off wins support in smb.conf
[21:58] <chewd> does that sound reasonable?
[21:58] <chewd> all this network stuff is a bit over my head
[21:58] <ronandi> ccharles: yeah, im using eclipse europa right now, but I dont think there is any gobby-like functionality that you can install for it
[21:59] <sageb1> re ipw3945 wireless .. is crypto library support and arc4 algorithm turned on?
[21:59] <endo> how can I get rid of this?
[21:59] <endo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry  restri/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:59] <chewd> i shouldnt need wins support now that im not running netbios
[21:59] <chewd> right?
[21:59] <ccharles`> ronandi: oh, sorry, I missed that bit. gobby is the group-edit-over-the-web text editor, right?
[21:59] <JonathanLahav> if the package text box is NOT empty and you choose "don't know" about the package, when you try to send the report you get the message "there is 1 error." and NOTHING is highlighted. Took me a while to find the solution in irc archives...
[21:59] <sageb1> endo: sudo apt-get update ?
[21:59] <kane77> chewd, I'm just solving samba problems.. I had it running but it doesn't show anymore
[21:59] <ronandi> ccharles: yeah it is, know any others?
[22:00] <chewd> well im giving it a go... bbia reboot
[22:00] <endo> sageb1: thats what gives me the error
[22:00] <sageb1> ok where's the user with the ipw3945 question?
[22:00] <ccharles`> ronandi: nope, sorry. my best suggestion is to use CVS/Subversion/Git for code coordination between people, but of course that isn't real-time.
[22:01] <Stroganoff> i reported an bug during installation. is there anything apart from syslog i could provide?
[22:01] <sageb1> endo: mmm grep the sources.list for gutsy-backports
[22:01] <ronandi> ccharles`: ive got no idea what CVS/Subversion...blahblahblah is. Is that like Dreamweaver's check-in, check-out functionality?
[22:01] <endo> sageb1: how do I go about doing that?
[22:01] <ccharles`> ronandi: heh. I have no idea what Dreamweaver's functionality is :-).
[22:02] <ccharles`> ronandi: CVS/Subversion/Git are all revision control systems. basically they track who changed what when in source code.
[22:02] <hischild> ronaldo, ccharles` Dreamweaver checking and subversion's checkin are basically the same theory.
[22:02] <sageb1> it looks like the "restri/binary-i386/Packages" is the problem. wouldn't it be "Restricted"?
[22:02] <ronandi> hischild: thanks for the clarification
[22:02] <ccharles`> hischild: thanks.
[22:02] <pakmei> hischild: dreamweaver doesnt do revisions
[22:03] <ronandi> pakmei: you mean, it doesnt track who changed what?
[22:03] <hischild> pakmei, i'm not talking about revisions, i'm talking about the checkin/checkout and locking of files
[22:03] <sageb1> endo, in command line: "grep restri $(locate sources.list|grep apt)"
[22:04] <sageb1> assuming that "restri" is incorrect
[22:04] <jin> whe playing a movie and going full screen, the movie stops for a second or two and then continu. why's that?
[22:04] <ronandi> yeah, I love gobby's group-editing, but hate how it has no compile within it. Eclipse's compile function is awesome
[22:04] <endo> sageb1: WOW, where do you learn commands like that?
[22:04] <sageb1> jin: memory and pushing content through agp 64Mb window
[22:05] <Seamus> So whats going on with Upstart, is it still running everything in sysv comatibility mode?
[22:05] <sageb1> endo, trial and error over 15 yrs
[22:05] <Seveas> Seamus, almost
[22:05] <endo> sageb1: if only linux was easier to use...its coming
[22:05] <silent_> if I were to mount one directory on another in fstab, what would I list as the fs type?
[22:05] <ccharles`> endo: if you want to learn shell stuff like what sageb1 is using, google the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide.
[22:06] <Seamus> Seveas: is there a configuration guide for it?
[22:06] <barslow> Hi, Can someone help me with Samba Network sharing?
[22:06] <endo> ccharles`: thank you for the reference. I will :)
[22:06] <jin> vlc works better :-)
[22:06] <silent_> barslow: maybe
[22:06] <Seveas> Seamus, upstart.ubuntu.com :)
[22:06] <sageb1> i nvr use video at fullscreen cos u r just blitting from 320*200 to you max res
[22:06] <Seamus> as far as adding new services, stopping new ones
[22:06] <Seveas> !u | sageb1
[22:06] <ubotu> sageb1: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:06] <barslow> Well I've been using SMB sharing to stream media to my xbox via XBMC
[22:07] <barslow> recently I've lost the ability to stream video out of RAR packages
[22:07] <Frailmage> Well I am back, I am trying proftpd, and have just ran the configure shell script(?) and am now confused. I tried reading the install read me that came with it. and the first step it self went completely over my head.
[22:07] <Seamus> Seveas: does upstart explain the startup performance increase in hardy?
[22:07] <sageb1> ok, you want me to be more RP
[22:07] <Seveas> Seamus, no
[22:07] <barslow> without extracting the contents I can no longer view videos that are in RAR packages
[22:07] <silent_> barslow: rar is a compression type, that is client-side
[22:07] <barslow> it seems so
[22:08] <ronandi> is there a way to open up a program in terminal, and allow the program to continue to run, even if you close the terminal that launched it?
[22:08] <silent_> barslow: why would you have media in rars?
[22:08] <sageb1> endo, the advanced bash scripting guide is also found via apt-cache search i.e. apt-cache search bash
[22:08] <ccharles`> ronandi: 'command &'
[22:08] <barslow> I'm not sure what happen it maybe in my smb.conf file, just looking for some help
[22:08] <ronandi> no
[22:08] <Seamus> Seveas: oh, maybe that's just me?
[22:08] <ronandi> that doesnt do it
[22:08] <barslow> alot of the video i download is in rar packages
[22:08] <Seveas> ronandi, if it's interactive, look at screen
[22:08] <barslow> from newsgroups BT etc etc
[22:09] <Seveas> barslow, we don't support piracy
[22:09] <silent_> barslow: I can guarantee you that the problem will disappear if you just extract the rar files. rar isn't really meant for long-term storage. To stream and extract the data is a waste of processing power
[22:09] <barslow> well TV shows are a grey area i think
[22:09] <silent_> barslow: extract your media into whatever encoded format then play it
[22:09] <Seveas> barslow, no they're not.
[22:10] <silent_> Seveas: he never said anything about intellectual property
[22:10] <sageb1> barslow, only if recorded on betamax from a tv using rabbit ears
[22:10] <barslow> well its just easier to leave them in rar packages, It's worked fine in the past
[22:10] <silent_> barslow: thanks for admitting to piracy, we didn't need to know what you're storing
[22:10] <JonathanLahav> goodnight
[22:10] <ronandi> Seveas: huh? ccharles`: & returns control to terminal, but if you exit, the "children" close
[22:10] <Blaise> Hi, I'm trying to play my guitar through my PC, but I can't hear anything through the speakers, although I can successfully use Sound Recorder
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: I run that command and i get variousion of this: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list:deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted
[22:10] <Blaise> Is there a way I can 'monitor' the output?
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: like this: /etc/apt/sources.list.save:# deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[22:10] <silent_> barslow: how is it easier to leave them in rar packages?
[22:10] <endo> sageb1: links
[22:11] <ccharles`> ronandi: for a graphical program, if you do 'command &' and then 'exit' in the terminal, the child should still run.
[22:11] <sageb1> the second one might be the problem at their end, endo
[22:11] <Stroganoff> whats the command to list all running processes
[22:11] <Stroganoff> (not top)
[22:11] <Starnestommy> Stroganoff: ps aux
[22:11] <Stroganoff> thx
[22:11] <Seveas> Stroganoff, ps f -e
[22:11] <endo> sageb1: how do I go about fixing it?
[22:11] <Seveas> Stroganoff, 'man ps' for more interesting flags :)
[22:12] <brobostigon> barslow: when you run, whatever is in the .rar, it has to extract whatever it is before it plays it anyway.
[22:12] <ccharles`> ronandi: Seveas was talking about a program called screen that lets you run console apps, disconnect from them, close the terminal,  and then reconnect later from a new terminal.
[22:12] <barslow> its easier because i don't need to extract anything i can just leave them in the format i downloaded them in
[22:12] <barslow> thats fine i'll just extract stuff from now on
[22:12] <sageb1> endo: replace ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[22:12] <endo> sageb1:  I edit this in the sources.list ?
[22:12] <silent_> barslow: until you can't view them because your streamer stopped handling that format because no one in their right mind would want to decode a stream multiple times
[22:12] <zod_> how to open an Zip file and unpack it in Ubuntu? what program do i need?
[22:13] <Flannel> endo: yes
[22:13] <Seveas> zod_, doubleclick on it :)
[22:13] <brobostigon> zod_: file-roller
[22:13] <sageb1> endo, do u use Synaptic to add or edit repository information?
[22:13] <silent_> zod_: I'd probably just right click on the file
[22:13] <sageb1> endo, synaptic would be easier for you, i think
[22:13] <barslow> next question: I use Mplayer to view videos, and it takes quite a long time to load... when it finally does it gives me this error before the video starts (Error: Could Not Open Required Direct Show Codec WMVdmod.dll)
[22:14] <sageb1> barslow, did u add the nonfree video codecs?
[22:14] <hackeron> I'm experiencing terrible echo with ekiga - when using skype there is no echo. I have a desktop microphone and using speakers - any ideas how to get such a setup to work (i.e. not using a headset)?
[22:14] <barslow> yes
[22:14] <sageb1> WMV is a w32codec
[22:14] <ronandi> ccharles`: well. if you do: "gedit&", and close terminal, gedit closes. If you do the same with gaim, and exit, the buddylist gui stays there, but all its contents disappear and you are dc-ed
[22:14] <silent_> barslow: Mplayer should look for the codecs for you
[22:14] <barslow> it doesn't unfortuantely
[22:14] <ronandi> idk, I can just use alt f2 anyway
[22:15] <silent_> barslow: have you tried using VLC? I use it now... it eliminates worrying over codecs
[22:15] <barslow> i love vlc player
[22:15] <ronandi> but, what the best audio player out there for linux? on windows I was using foobar2000, and winamp
[22:15] <sageb1> hackeron, adjust microphone volume?
[22:15] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all. is there a way i can run my ubuntu installation in vmware?
[22:15] <barslow> but it has problems with WMVHD content
[22:15] <mDemocritus> ronandi: amarok is awesome
[22:15] <barslow> doesn't play them correctly
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: lol, yeah, I've tried that
[22:16] <ccharles`> ronandi: that's really weird, because using & should work.
[22:16] <brobostigon> ronandi: audacious is my favorite
[22:16] <silent_> barslow: mplayer is better? That's surprising
[22:16] <e345> hello
[22:16] <mDemocritus> ronandi: xmms is pretty good too, basically a clone of winamp
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: either it's so quiet the person on the other end can't hear it, or there's terrible echo
[22:16] <sageb1> hackeron, mmm replace speakers with earbud headphones?
[22:16] <barslow> yea mplayer plays them fine
[22:16] <hackeron> sageb1: has to be speakerphone
[22:16] <barslow> except for that error
[22:16] <silent_> ronandi: there are a few choices... the most popular are Rhythmbox, Amarok, and XMMS
[22:16] <ronandi> hmm, ill try amarok, can you skin it easily?
[22:17] <e345> i'm trying to get VLC installed on my system, just installed Ubuntu earlier today and i'm getting dependency errors
[22:17] <sageb1> hackeron, then feedback or echo is a given
[22:17] <mDemocritus> ronandi: i believe so, haven't played with it that way though
[22:17] <brobostigon> ronandi: and audacious, its newer than xmms
[22:17] <ronandi> kk
[22:17] <Andril> can some one help with my fresh rates? keeps going to 50mhz using the restricted drivers for nvidia
[22:17] <hackeron> sageb1: well, is there anything with the echo cancellation quality of skype that works with asterisk?
[22:17] <silent_> ronandi: rhythmbox is a lot like itunes, if you're familiar with it. I find it very intuitive and simple. Amarok is a bit jumbled for my taste, but perhaps I'm just not used to it
[22:17] <mDemocritus> ronandi: amarok is kde based, but it should work fine in gnome
[22:17] <ronandi> k
[22:17] <sageb1> hackeron, IDK.
[22:18] <Blaise> Is there a way to make Rythmbox have smaller text?
[22:18] <Blaise> I find it takes too much space
[22:18] <hackeron> sageb1: huh?
[22:18] <brobostigon> ronandi: if you like winamp, use audacious, and xmms,
[22:18] <ronandi> oh yeah! I tried changing my session to KDE, and when it started up, evverything was SUPER TINY, and I could read anything
[22:18] <silent_> barslow: if it's working, even if there is an error, don't worry about it
[22:18] <barslow> well it takes forever for mplayer to launch
[22:18] <sageb1> hackeron, you are asking a question that is beyond my skillset. Asterix is part of PBX telephony
[22:18] <barslow> its kind of annoying
[22:19] <mad_max02> damn HDbits banned azureus 2.5.0.4
[22:19] <mDemocritus> ronandi: don't start a session with kde, just use gnome... kde apps usually run fine in gnome
[22:19] <mad_max02> I'm gonna use deluge from now on
[22:19] <silent_> ronandi: oh my god are you one of those computer newbies who uses like 800x600 on a 20" monitor cause it "makes the icons bigger" ?
[22:19] <mDemocritus> silent_ hahahahahaha
[22:19] <zod_> i got this an error occurred while loading the archive when i try to unpack an Zip file in archive manager, any other program i can use to unpack Zip Files?
[22:20] <silent_> mDemocritus: you know what I'm talking about ;P
[22:20] <mDemocritus> silent_: of course... i work tech support for graphics cards :D
[22:20] <silent_> ahaha
[22:20] <silent_> I bet you hear that a lot
[22:20] <sageb1> i tried azureus for about a couple hours until i realized that i'd have to dmz my computer to get it to work. but i realized linux isn't secure enough to handle over 100 knocks on the ports to justify that
[22:21] <bobbyd> hi
[22:21] <sageb1> dmz = "enable DMZ option on certain routers"
[22:21] <Frailmage> Okay so I just downloaded proftpd, and now I am once again over my head with this, I am used to the 1 click installs of Windows. Would someone be able to help me with this?
[22:21] <ronandi> silent_: no... not at all... Im one of those pplz who built there own comp and has an 8800(I only mention b/c of the lack of support). I've always used my native res: 1680x1050
[22:21] <mad_max02> sageb1, yeah but I didnt have to dmz in order to get it working
[22:21] <mDemocritus> sageb1: ktorrent is my favorite client.... it's a bit unstable in gnome, but it's sleek and works with upnp... there's a plugin for it
[22:21] <mad_max02> sageb1, just opened 2 ports
[22:21] <zod_> any one know`about an program for unpacking Zip and Rar Files? please tell, something like winrar for Ubuntu??
[22:21] <mad_max02> why would you people need upnp ???
[22:22] <mDemocritus> ronandi: i think he was kidding you
[22:22] <brobostigon> zod_: file-roller
[22:22] <erUSUL> zod_: file-roller ; peazip
[22:22] <sageb1> bittornado works for me
[22:22] <mad_max02> isnt it easier just to open 2 ports and use thosw ?
[22:22] <mad_max02> hm
[22:22] <mDemocritus> mad_max02: newbies lol
[22:22] <mad_max02> funny thing is that deluge crashed 2 time in 1 hour already
[22:22] <ronandi> silent_: lol...
[22:22] <sageb1> mod max, i opened those two ports. never got it to work regardless
[22:22] <mad_max02> I need to find another torrent client then
[22:22] <silent_> ronandi: hehe, alright, you'll probably want to change the appearance settings then... have you tried kde 4? or just 3?
[22:22] <mad_max02> sageb1, then u didnt do something correct
[22:23] <zod_> yea i know that im an newbies Mad_max02, dont make fun of me for that, i want to learn about Linux, and im new ;)
[22:23] <Brutality> could anyone explain to me what to do if I wanna get iTunes to work? Really need it for my iphone..
[22:23] <mad_max02> sageb1, coz I got my azureus to work like a charm
[22:23] <mDemocritus> zod_ he's messing with you
[22:23] <sageb1> mad mox, never had a problem with bit tornado
[22:23] <mad_max02> zod_,  ???? dude who even talked about you ?
[22:23] <silent_> zod_: unrar, unrar-free
[22:23] <brobostigon> !wine | Brutality
[22:23] <ubotu> Brutality: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:23] <mad_max02> lol just read lines dude
[22:23] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:23] <silent_> everything else is handled by default
[22:23] <zod_> sorry did see in the chat, something about newbies ;) and im one of them ;)
[22:24] <Brutality> thank you brobostigon
[22:24] <mad_max02> zod_, well I didnt talk about you fo sho
[22:24] <silent_> ronandi: oh! you can also run foobar2000 in wine if you really want... but I find rhythmbox far superior to fb
[22:24] <zod_> sorry my bad then mad_max02
[22:24] <mDemocritus> zod_: whatever torrent client you use, there's settings for the ports it uses
[22:24] <sageb1> zod_, um basically you install rar and the other file compression apps
[22:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[22:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:25] <mDemocritus> zod_: sorry man... i got all confused :D
[22:25] <henri1> anyone here familiar with mencoder and x264 ? i keep getting a "FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver"
[22:25] <zod_> its ok tnx for tip anyway ;)
[22:25] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:25] <sageb1> henri, is that video driver codec installed?
[22:25] <Tu13es> hm, I'd like to run my system headless and just use ssh -X to get GUI access, is that feasible?
[22:26] <ronandi> silent_: lol, im not sure which kde I was using... probably the latest... and I cant change my appearance settings, because the text is so small thats its completely illegible. Unless someone can give me some terminal commands to change them
[22:26] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: yep
[22:26] <henri1> sageb1, I thought so, how to check ?
[22:26] <Tu13es> the only thing I'm not sure of is, say, how to log in with ssh -X, do things like start up apps, then log out and log back in later and have them still running
[22:26] <tmcfulton> can someone help?
[22:27] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: that gets a bit more difficult
[22:27] <Tu13es> that's what I thought :-\
[22:27] <zod_> How to install the rar and other file compression apps ?
[22:27] <Polarina> ronandi: Are you running the Nvidia binary blob?
[22:27] <sageb1> henri, "locate w32codec"
[22:27] <tmcfulton> can someone help?
[22:27] <brobostigon> zod_: synaptic
[22:27] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:27] <silent_> ronandi: no, unfortunately I don't have much experience with that... however you can change your default x mode to use a lower resolution temporarily to change the fonts
[22:27] <sageb1> zod_, man apt-get
[22:27] <ArthurArchnix> sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:28] <silent_> ronandi: in xorg.conf
[22:28] <sageb1> "apt-cach search" will find your compression apps
[22:28] <Brutality> brobostigon:  when I get this Wine under control, do I just download iTunes like I would in windows or am I wrong?
[22:28] <sageb1> eg zip, lzh, rar, arc
[22:28] <hischild> I have an atheros 5007EG wireless card. I had to compile a specific madwifi version for it to get it working, and it stopped working. The modules are not being loaded and when attempting to do so, i get unknown symbol and disagrees about version warnings.
[22:28] <silent_> Brutality: you wouldnt download ituns
[22:28] <ConstyXIV> is there a way to find out if your ISP does ipv6?
[22:28] <tmcfulton> Could somebody help me, please?
[22:28] <Brutality> What do I do then
[22:28] <silent_> Brutality: why are you downloading itunes
[22:29] <henri1> sageb1, does return anything... I should add that I could make a successfull encode from rm to mpeg using the lavc codecs
[22:29] <Tu13es> mDemocritus: any thoughts?
[22:29] <ronandi> Polarina: I have no clue what that is. I used envy, and its fine now. The res of my login screen is like 800*600, but as soon as I login, it goes to the native 1680*1050 (we talking about gnome)
[22:29] <brobostigon> Brutality: down load the normal setup, and run"wine setup.exe"
[22:29] <Ace2016> !tell
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <Polarina> ConstyXIV: Call technical support.
[22:29] <xeer> hi everyone. my arch is x86_64 using v7.10. I have firefox v2.0.x with the nspluginwrapper for adobe flash player 9. I could be at a website that has a flash object on it, it would work fine and then randomly disappear leaving only a grey box. seems the npviewer.bin program crashes. I have to restart firefox to get flash to work again. is this a known issue? is there a way to solve this?
[22:29] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: /me shrugs
[22:29] <mad_max02> DAMN
[22:29] <mad_max02> deluge got removed
[22:29] <mDemocritus> Tu13es: sorry man, i've got nothin
[22:29] <ConstyXIV> Brutality: use rhythmbox (installed), or banshee
[22:29] <mad_max02> any other ideas on torrent clients for gnome ???
[22:29] <Ace2016> Is there a way to pass a message to another irc user when they login???
[22:29] <Brutality> Is it the same as iTunes ConstyXIV ?
[22:29] <ConstyXIV> mad_max02: get transmission
[22:29] <ArthurArchnix> mad_max02: google deluge-torrent and get the latest deb for ubuntu
[22:29] <silent_> Brutality: ConstyXIV is right, use rhythmbox, it is a linux-based itunes clone
[22:30] <ConstyXIV> Brutality: very close.  you have rhythmbox installed
[22:30] <Brutality> Ok, thank you very much
[22:30] <zod_> How to install the rar and other file compression apps ? unrar is good?
[22:30] <Brutality> I will get to it right away
[22:30] <ArthurArchnix> mad_max02: I'm using it now. It rocks.
[22:30] <tmcfulton> When I start Ubuntu, the window server won't start, and it tells me that get-edid is not installed, I probably  need the proper driver, help please?
[22:30] <Brutality> It's good to keep Wine installed right?
[22:30] <silent_> Brutality: for certain things
[22:30] <silent_> can't hurt
[22:30] <Brutality> Ok great
[22:30] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: unrar unrar's your rar files. If that is good, then it is good.
[22:30] <brobostigon> Brutality: you will not be able to use the itunes store with that,as its not itunes.
[22:30] <Brutality> I dont use the store anyway :D
[22:30] <sageb1> zod, "sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:30] <silent_> buying music?
[22:30] <sageb1> "
[22:30] <Brutality> Its just so i can get my music and movies on my iphone
[22:30] <silent_> ...oops...
[22:31] <zod_> how to unzip my zipfiles then? :)
[22:31] <Brutality> Haha
[22:31] <mDemocritus> zod_ what's the error you get when you try extracting one of those archives?
[22:31] <tmcfulton> The window server tells me that get-edid isn't installed, what do i do?
[22:31] <Brutality> Darn, ya got me ;)
[22:31] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:31] <fung> unzip?
[22:31] <Polarina> Brutality: It doesn't harm anyone; other than limiting your current storage capacity.
[22:31] <xeer> hi everyone. my arch is x86_64 using v7.10. I have firefox v2.0.x with the nspluginwrapper for adobe flash player 9. I could be at a website that has a flash object on it, it would work fine and then randomly disappear leaving only a grey box. seems the npviewer.bin program crashes. I have to restart firefox to get flash to work again. is this a known issue? is there a way to solve this?
[22:31] <Brutality> ok
[22:31] <Brutality> Great support in here, really appreciate it
[22:31] <brobostigon> Brutality: install wine, then run wine setup.exe.
[22:31] <silent_> Polarina: disk space is cheap
[22:31] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: Gutsy can unzip files already. Nothing more to do. Right-click and choose extract.
[22:31] <tmcfulton> If somebody answers your questions, it's good
[22:31] <silent_> ArthurArchnix: we've been telling him that for ages, he doesnt get it
[22:32] <erUSUL> xeer: i have seen flash crashes but not that much that it becomes a problem for me
[22:32] <Brutality> when I run it, it gives me a black screen until i right click
[22:32] <ArthurArchnix> silent_: Good to know.
[22:32] <ronandi> what do you use to get widgets in gnome?
[22:32] <hischild> I have an atheros 5007EG wireless card. I had to compile a specific madwifi version for it to get it working, and it stopped working. The modules are not being loaded and when attempting to do so, i get unknown symbol and disagrees about version warnings.
[22:32] <sageb1> tmcfulton, what was the program that failed?
[22:32] <zod_>  an error occurred while trying to open the archive
[22:32] <tmcfulton> The window server
[22:32] <silent_> ronandi: there are a couple options, you can use gdesklets
[22:32] <tmcfulton> I have no window server running
[22:32] <mDemocritus> ronandi: right click on the panel, add app or something like that
[22:32] <xeer> erUSUL: seems it likes to crash when I have more then one flash object on the page. sometimes it works, other times it disappears.
[22:32] <silent_> ronandi: and there was another, but I can't remember it, it's not included in the repositories
[22:32] <sageb1> tmcfulton, samba or X11?
[22:33] <tmcfulton> err...
[22:33] <xeer> myspace is a flash killer, they always have like 3 objects on the page at once
[22:33] <ronandi> ok thanks
[22:33] <hackeron> sageb1: just tried x-lite - no echo at all, but doesn't run on linux - GRRRR :'(
[22:33] <tmcfulton> X11, I believe
[22:33] <sageb1> tmcfulton, you mean, you get no GUI
[22:33] <tmcfulton> yeah, no GUI
[22:33] <silent_> ronandi: do you mean adding things to your taskbar?
[22:33] <zod_> and that is what i got when trying to unzip my zip files:  an error occurred while trying to open the archive" any one know of an program that will unzip my zipfiles?
[22:33] <hackeron> anyone here had speakerphone voip on Linux with no echo? - care to share how you did it?
[22:33] <sageb1> zod, unzip
[22:33] <nikrud> zod_: install   unzip    and try unzipping it with that (in a terminal).  You might get a more useful error message
[22:34] <mDemocritus> zod_ did you try right clicking on the archive itself, choose extract?
[22:34] <one_matthias> ho how can i change screen resolution on the screen saver for ati graphics card ...
[22:34] <Brutality> When I plug in my iphone it doesnt show in the rhythmbox program?
[22:34] <xeer> I actually managed to get the error messages from the nsplugin wrapper
[22:34] <ronandi> silent_: both on to desktop, and taskbar. I oced my computer, so some temp meters would be good
[22:34] <silent_> ronandi: http://linux4world.blogspot.com/2007/10/top-8-widget-engines-for-linux-platform.html
[22:34] <magnetron> hackeron: move the mic away from the speaker
[22:34] <hackeron> magnetron: makes it worse
[22:34] <Pupeno> Hello.
[22:34] <zod_> yea did try right click dont got that extract to choose there
[22:34] <hackeron> magnetron: unless I move it too far away for it to be practical
[22:34] <xphox> sup
[22:34] <silent_> ronandi: a combination of gnome panel apps and some sort of widgets/desklets app will do the trick
[22:35] <magnetron> hackeron: then move the speaker away from the mic
[22:35] <mDemocritus> zod_ try nikrud's suggestion
[22:35] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I changed my graphics card
[22:35] <silent_> ronandi: play around with things, that's the great thing about linux, there's lots of choice
[22:35] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, how do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:35] <Pupeno> How can I mesure the speed of my Ubuntu to compare it when it is running directly on metal and on virtualization? any benchmark?
[22:35] <Brutality> What do I do to make the rhythmbox detect my iphone?
[22:35] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I most likely need a driver
[22:35] <zod_> what the command to give in terminal for install that unzip program?
[22:35] <sageb1> tmcfulton, ohhhhh. yes. your new card is nvidia?
[22:35] <silent_> Brutality: buy a mac
[22:35] <erUSUL> xeer: well all i can offer is my experience it is not as bad as yours so i dunno
[22:35] <tmcfulton> No
[22:35] <hackeron> magnetron: I get no echo with skype or x-lite on the same machine, it's a software issue - I need a sip client with better echo cancellation
[22:35] <tmcfulton> It's integrated with the motherboard
[22:35] <nikrud> zod_:   sudo apt-get install unzip
[22:35] <xeer> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: passing an unknown instance
[22:35] <DieseL`nix> lo
[22:35] <Brutality> Hm so I cant use this to migrate music and moveis to my ipod & iphone?
[22:36] <magnetron> hackeron: what client are you using?
[22:36]  * chris0 passes an instance
[22:36] <xeer> googling that error produces no help what so ever. seems im the only one
[22:36] <tmcfulton> sageb1: It's integrated with the motherboard
[22:36] <sageb1> tmcfulton, let me see: you replaced motherboard?
[22:36] <brobostigon> Brutality: i have my doubts you will get an answer, very few peple will have tied that.
[22:36] <tmcfulton> No
[22:36] <zod_> what the command to give in terminal for install that unzip program? please?
[22:36] <Brutality> Oh ok
[22:36] <DieseL`nix> having a problem installing screenlets on gutsy... can't find any working repos, debs or source to compile?
[22:36] <Pupeno> Brutality: have you tried Amarok, just to see if some free software is capable of doing what you want.
[22:36] <hackeron> magnetron: ekiga, linphone, kiax and kphone - terrible echo in those 4
[22:36] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I used to use a real card, but it didn't work very well
[22:36] <Wolf23> somebody help me plz!!
[22:36] <Brutality> I will try right away Pupeno
[22:36] <silent_> Brutality: no idea, if there is it's probably beta/alpha software... if you buy apple products you have to expect apple to monopolize their technologies
[22:36] <ArthurArchnix> zod_ what is your zip file called and where is it located?
[22:37] <billy___> when i try to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter package the package installer gives me this error :    Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libc6    what do i do?
[22:37] <Brutality> yeah but I switched from windows to ubuntu because i saw somewhere that it is indeed possible
[22:37] <nikrud> zod_:   sudo apt-get install unzip   . You might want to try using xchat for your irc, it highlights lines with your name in them. Less likely to miss a message
[22:37] <erUSUL> !anybody | Wolf23
[22:37] <ubotu> Wolf23: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:37] <sageb1> tmcfulton, do you know your motherboard specs? maker, model number
[22:37] <silent_> Brutality: then you should go back to where you saw it was possible and find out how
[22:37] <Brutality> Yeah if only I remembered hehe :D
[22:37] <sageb1> e.g. "asus f2b"
[22:37] <billy___> anybody?
[22:37] <Brutality> I think it was with Wine tho
[22:37] <zathras_laptop> how can i correct a package that failed and now apt-get reports that the source file is missing
[22:37] <Wolf23> erUSUL:  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover the file?>
[22:38] <brobostigon> Brutality: a prog that works with a normal ipod is gtkpod, but if its works with iphone, no idea.
[22:38] <silent_> Brutality: http://www.google.ca/search?q=iphone+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[22:38] <Brutality> Wow, thanks for the support
[22:38] <DieseL`nix> hello? anyone here got screenlets working on gutsy?
[22:38] <Brutality> Amarok it is! :)
[22:38] <KelebekSohbet958> Selamlar..
[22:38] <gnychis> whats the best way to install acroread? I don't want to use evince
[22:38] <magnetron> hackeron: the phenomenom you are encountering is called "feedback" and is caused by the sound from your speaker being picked up the mic. if you try using a head set, you'll notice the difference. what you could do is lowering the mic volume level. that would reduce the effect.
[22:38] <chris0> DieseL`nix: my experience is that they are extremely flaky...
[22:38] <silent_> Brutality: "Amarok and gtkpod can wirelessly sync music with iPod Touch and iPhone, including adding, editing and playing songs and playlists."
[22:39] <towlie> i plugged in my hfs+ formatted usb external hard drive into my ubuntu box and it mounts it but it says its read only. doesnt linux support hfs+ read/write ?
[22:39] <KelebekSohbet958> Bye..
[22:39] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | gnychis
[22:39] <ubotu> gnychis: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:39] <ArthurArchnix> Brutality: Just tuning in, in case you haven't seen this page, for your reference... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone  my apologies if it's been covered.
[22:39] <hackeron> magnetron: I know what I'm experiencing, what I want to experience is echo/feedback cancellation :)
[22:39] <mDemocritus> gnychis: that question makes me shudder
[22:39] <silent_> Brutality: Google - It's just a click away
[22:39] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)
[22:39] <Brutality> Amazing support, thanks guys
[22:39] <sageb1> towlie, perhaps
[22:39] <silent_> sageb1: you're a towel
[22:39] <magnetron> hackeron: so did you try reducing the mic level?
[22:39] <Brutality> True silent_, sorry
[22:39] <hackeron> magnetron: yes
[22:39] <mDemocritus> gnychis: try a couple other pdf viewers, check synaptic for pdf readers
[22:40] <gnychis> mDemocritus: if evince had a snapshot tool like acroread, it would be great... but instead i have to keep taking screen shots and cropping
[22:40] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:40] <zod_> my zip file is called "Crossover.Pro.6.2.0.1.painejake.zip" and is Locaded in my home folder ArhurArchnix
[22:40] <DieseL`nix> chris0,  i've used them before and they were ok, just cant find any repos or debs, or even source to bloody install from
[22:40] <silent_> Brutality: np, it just gets really crowded in here when people ask questions that are already on the wiki/forums
[22:40] <hackeron> magnetron: to far lower levels that skype and x-lite get no echo/feedback whatever you want to call it
[22:40] <mDemocritus> gnychis: aha... i'll bet there's a dozen FLOSS pdf readers, one or two probably has that function
[22:40] <CoasterMaster> What's a good (SIMPLE) video editing program?
[22:40] <DieseL`nix> just out of interest, what alternatives are there to screenlets, other than gdesklets... ?
[22:40] <Wolf23> Helpers!!  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover this file please
[22:40] <mDemocritus> gnychis: i don't know of any off the top of my head
[22:40] <gnychis> mDemocritus: no problem, thanks
[22:40] <Brutality> Yeah I understand
[22:41] <Madman6510> Can someone tell me how to make it so I can have two different wallpapers on two different virtual desktops?
[22:41] <sageb1> user trying to get linux to read hpfs : please look at url: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO-4.html
[22:41] <kantor> hi, I've install ed ubuntu 7.10. How can I use my, or how can I make my ATA hard drive to be seen like a SCSI device (instead of hda to be sda) ?
[22:41] <mDemocritus> CoasterMaster: have you tried kino?
[22:41] <silent_> kantor: I don't know that you can... why?
[22:41] <mDemocritus> CoasterMaster: just a suggestion... i have no clue how simple it is
[22:41] <Wolf23> wb bruenig
[22:41] <brobostigon> Madman6510: i use enlightenment, and it does that.
[22:42] <sageb1> specifically: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO.html#toc4.5
[22:42] <zod_> Tnx all the Zip works great now ;)
[22:42] <Madman6510> brobostigon: would it just be sudo apt-get install enlightenment to install it?
[22:42] <silent_> zod_: you got it goin finally?
[22:42] <silent_> zod_: good stuff
[22:42] <mDemocritus> zod_: glad to hear it
[22:42] <kantor> in fedora my hda is sda because uses the sg dtiver
[22:42] <hischild> what's the main difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[22:42] <brobostigon> Madman6510: yep
[22:42] <kantor> silent_, in fedora my hda is sda because uses the sg dtiver
[22:42] <CoasterMaster> mDemocritus, i'll check it out
[22:42] <silent_> kantor: I have a feeling you're in the wrong place
[22:42] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: open a terminal and cut and paste the following command: cd ~/ && ls | grep zip
[22:42] <Madman6510> brobostigon: ok, I'll try that
[22:42] <zod_> yea thanks all, i dont know what i do with out all ure help ;=)
[22:43] <mDemocritus> kantor: yea fedora is strange like that
[22:43] <sageb1> hischild: man aptitude  then man apt-get
[22:43] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:43] <mDemocritus> kantor: that's why we use ubuntu :P
[22:43] <sageb1> towlie, which hpfs?
[22:43] <brobostigon> Madman6510: enlightenment is a whole DE, so you have to change to it in your login screen
[22:43] <sageb1> os/2 hpfs?
[22:43] <towlie> sageb1,  hfs+
[22:43] <nikrud> hischild: not a lot anymore. aptitude has better search functions, and a nice ncurses interface
[22:43] <Wolf23> any of the felpers plz  thanx, but on ktorrent i have delete the torrent with the data file, so how could i recover this file
[22:43] <Madman6510> brobostigon: ok
[22:43] <magnetron> hackeron: first of all, I did not write Ekiga so start complaining to me. if you want skype, just install it. and if you're looking for a SIP client with echo cancellation, use Ekiga. so you need to reduce the feedback in your setup.
[22:44] <one_matthias> anyone now hot to set screen sice in screen saver
[22:44] <towlie> sageb1,  no mac os x
[22:44] <silent_> Wolf23: if you re-load the torrent most torrent programs will run hash checks on already downloaded content
[22:44] <hischild> sageb1, i was just looking for a quick answer instead of searching ... it just popped into my mind and i started wondering ..
[22:44] <one_matthias> sorry , anyone knows hot to sett resolution when screen saver turn on ...
[22:44] <gnychis> ubotu: the only problem i'm having with acroread and medibuntu is acroread: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[22:44] <hischild> nikrud, right ... so i can just stick with apt
[22:45] <Wolf23> silent_:  torrent i dont have it save from the tracker site but just open it
[22:45] <nikrud> hischild: I used to use aptitude exclusively, but have switched to apt-get based on advice from a canonical support guy (except for the searching)
[22:45] <one_matthias> i get the wrong screen resolution when the screen saver kicks in ...
[22:45] <zod_> how do i install this file here "cedega-engine-6.0.5-local-update.i386.cpkg"?
[22:45] <silent_> Wolf23: re-download the torrent, or if you can't, find a new source
[22:45] <silent_> and delete the old content downloaded
[22:45] <gnychis> brobostigon: the only problem i'm having with acroread and medibuntu is acroread: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[22:45] <chimp_in_basemen> .accessirc.net
[22:45] <sageb1> hfs apps in ubuntu linux: "apt-cache search mac|grep hfs
[22:45] <chimp_in_basemen> bah hahaha
[22:45] <sageb1> "
[22:45] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: Aptitude was created to cover up for problems with apt, problems that have been resolved for about two years now. AFAIK that's the only reason aptitude exists.
[22:46] <Wolf23> silent_:  the torrent is not on the website so i have to upload it another time
[22:46] <brobostigon> gnychis: no idea,sorry
[22:46] <magnetron> hackeron: here are som things you could do to reduce the feedback: 1.make sure the mic isn't pointing towards any of the speakers. 2. adjust the mic amp levels. 3. try disabling the mic preamp.
[22:46] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, may i ask what problems they were if you know by chance?
[22:46] <silent_> Seveas: I'm guessing that link is... not nice?
[22:46] <brobostigon> gnychis: i am half asleep, no  concentrating
[22:46] <hischild> nikrud, and may i ask you why he gave you the advice to switch?
[22:46] <Seveas> silent_, spam
[22:46] <Wolf23> silent_:  the video file aso delete when i hit on delete torrent with all data
[22:47] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: the source of all my present, past and future knowledge...http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[22:47] <silent_> ah
[22:47] <magnetron> zod_: we do not provide cedega support. the fellows in the #cedega channel do, though
[22:47] <mDemocritus> gnychis: looks like you need to upgrade libpango... you might have to compile the source yourself
[22:47] <hackeron> magnetron: 1: done 2: done 3: done -- still terrible echo
[22:47] <silent_> doesn't cedega have paid support
[22:47] <hackeron> magnetron: have you personally managed to get a speakerphone setup working?
[22:47] <nikrud> hischild: based on 'a strong recommendation' from the ubuntu uber-geeks to recommend apt-get ;) I think it now has some functionality that aptitude doesn't expose yet.
[22:47] <Seveas> silent_, they have, but that won't give you support on illegal downloads ;)
[22:47] <silent_> Wolf23: ohh... yea, you're never getting that data back
[22:47] <magnetron> hackeron: did you get the same result with skype in ubuntu?
[22:48] <hackeron> magnetron: no, skype is flawless
[22:48] <sageb1> user with hfs+ question: hfsplus - tools to access HFS+ formatted volumes -- ubuntu has this app for hfs+
[22:48] <gnychis> mDemocritus: :\ then medibuntu is not doing its job :P
[22:48] <Wolf23> silent_:  looool so, there is no way?
[22:48] <magnetron> hackeron: so you have a "flawless" voip client. be happy.
[22:48] <silent_> Wolf23: yea, its gone
[22:48] <Wolf23> :(
[22:48] <Wolf23> bad
[22:48] <hackeron> magnetron: I don't, it's not a voip client, it's a skype client :) -- I need a voip (a.k.a sip or iax) client
[22:49] <sageb1> gnychis, think ofit as your motherboard needs its special version of libpango
[22:49] <silent_> that happens every now and then... people come in saying they "rm ____" and need the file back
[22:49] <silent_> "wheres the recycle bin??"
[22:49] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, that doc makes me think it would be better to use aptitude ...
[22:49] <Wolf23> silent_:  ok dont worry about this thing, can u tell me if voice chat from websites support on linux?
[22:49] <chris0> real quick question here. If you have a mouse in a USB port, hoe do you determine what it's called in /dev? It's not /dev/input/mice (my eraser mouse) or /dev/psaux (my touchpad)...
[22:49] <Seveas> silent_, we should hack rm to move to the recycle bin :)
[22:49] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, then again, i'm going to assume this was that problem you said that was fixed?
[22:49] <silent_> Seveas: totally could
[22:49] <billy___> hello guys, i need some help with gettin my broadcom card connected. can anyone help me out with this?
[22:49] <towlie> does anyone know if  theres read write support for hfs+ formatted drives in linux
[22:49] <silent_> Seveas: move to ~/.Trash
[22:49] <sageb1> wolf23, was this an important file?
[22:49] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: No... the doc explains why people used to recommend aptitude. Those reasons no longer exist.
[22:49] <DieseL`nix> how do you uninstall a .deb?
[22:50] <Seveas> !broadcom | billy___
[22:50] <ubotu> billy___: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[22:50] <magnetron> hackeron: the clients are good, but you really should compare the results you have now to what you would get with a headset.
[22:50] <Wolf23> sageb1:  yes :(
[22:50] <Seveas> DieseL`nix, dpkg -r packagename
[22:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, aah i see ..
[22:50] <erUSUL> DieseL`nix: dpkg -r packagename
[22:50] <hackeron> magnetron: I need a speakerphone, headset works fine, that doesn't help me
[22:50] <nikrud> Seveas: don't mess with the unix commands, pls :)
[22:50] <tmcfulton> Could somebody find the package containing the command or program "get-edid"
[22:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, because ... apt-get does have autoremove now ... which does the same correct?
[22:50] <Seveas> nikrud, never ;)
[22:50] <tmcfulton> I can't because X isn't working
[22:50] <bruenig> !find get-edid
[22:50] <ubotu> No packages matching 'get-edid' could be found
[22:50] <billy___> seveas: ive read that millions of times.. no helo
[22:50] <billy___> help**
[22:51] <sageb1> billy___, simple solution: if this is a wireless question, the answer is broadcom hasn't freed them to open source i.e. switch to another maker
[22:51] <silent_> Wolf23: voice chat from websites... I suppose it would depend on the format. if it's a stream usually there is the option to download a .pls to use in a media player or some sort of plugin for firefox
[22:51] <tmcfulton> Hmm
[22:51] <hackeron> magnetron: have you personally managed to get a working speakerphone on Linux without skype?
[22:51] <tmcfulton> X server tells me that it can't find get-edid
[22:51] <Seveas> billy___, then you'll need to explain your problem in more deail
[22:51] <Seveas> detail*
[22:51] <billy___> sageb1: im using a dell 1501.. theres no possible way i could switch the wireless card
[22:51] <sageb1> billy, however, if you wish to try to get broadcom to work, have you tried ubuntuforums?
[22:51] <bruenig> tmcfulton: that doesn't mean get-edid is a program
[22:51] <tmcfulton> or a command
[22:51] <Wolf23> silent_:  Firefox Cannot Accept The Active x Plugins
[22:51] <Wolf23> Please use Microsoft internet Explorer or MSN explorer To Enter The Site
[22:51] <billy___> seveas: ive tried bcm43xx-fwcutter and ndiswrapper, neither worked
[22:51] <bruenig> tmcfulton: program command, same thing
[22:52] <sageb1> oh, the dell 1501 broadcom centrino
[22:52] <Seveas> billy___, pastebin the output of lspci
[22:52] <Seveas> !pastebin | billy___
[22:52] <ubotu> billy___: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:52] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: Correct. here's another article you may be interested in... http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/
[22:52] <silent_> Wolf23: hmm, I don't know much about active X in linux... but if it has anything to do with windows it's typically a negative result
[22:52] <bruenig> a command is an invocation of a particular program usually involving that programs name: thus firefox is both a program and a command
[22:52] <billy___> seveas: what file format can i use in ubuntu thats compatible with windows notepad? my ubuntu comp has no internet access whatsoever
[22:52] <tmcfulton> Well, can you help me get X server working?
[22:53] <Seveas> billy___, ah -- can't you hook it up with a wire for now, would make this a zillion times easier
[22:53] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, thanks ... reading
[22:53] <silent_> Wolf23: just did a quick google search, apparently people are recommending running IE, probably IE 6 in wine
[22:53] <billy___> seveas: LAN doesn't work either
[22:53] <rp3__> my icon for update manager notifications has dissapeard any idea how to get it back?
[22:53] <silent_> Wolf23: not sure, try it yourself
[22:53] <Seveas> billy___, if not, do this: lspci > foo.txt
[22:53] <Wolf23> bruenig:  so is there a way to work voice chat on linux?
[22:53] <Seveas> and copy over foo.txt, open it in wordpad (not notepad) on windows
[22:54] <sageb1> tmcfulton, i missed your reply to my question about motherboard manufacturer name and model number
[22:54] <tmcfulton> It's a Dell
[22:54] <tmcfulton> I don't know the model number
[22:54] <silent_> dude, you got a dell
[22:54] <billy___> seveas: where is the foo.txt file at?
[22:54] <billy___> dell sucks
[22:54] <Seveas> billy___, in your homedir probably
[22:54] <Wolf23> silent_:  thanx . but i dont know
[22:54] <Seveas> and watch your language please
[22:55] <silent_> Wolf23: read up on wine
[22:55] <sageb1> billy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459684
[22:55] <silent_> Wolf23: http://www.winehq.org/
[22:55] <tmcfulton> Dimension 5150 is all I can tell you
[22:55] <Seveas> tmcfulton, sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[22:55] <silent_> tmcfulton: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go through it carefully?
[22:55] <Wolf23> silent_: can u help me
[22:56] <tmcfulton> sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[22:56] <tmcfulton> oops
[22:56] <tmcfulton> no I didn't
[22:56] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, ok now i'm getting a little bit confused ... IMO apt has all the same functionality and has always served me well ... Aptitude seems to have some features that apt-get doesn't have ... does it have a downside?
[22:56] <silent_> Wolf23: unfortunately not, a lot of learning to use linux is individual, crack a beer and browse the net
[22:56] <sageb1> tmcfulton: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" gives info about motherboard and cpu
[22:56] <billy___> seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59870/
[22:57] <Seveas> billy___, hmm, never seen *that* broadcom before....
[22:57] <DrIP> hi all
[22:57] <DrIP> i need a bit of help
[22:57] <billy___> seveas: what do i do?
[22:57] <silent_> Wolf23: if you want to install wine to play around with it then in terminal enter "sudo apt-get install wine"
[22:57] <hischild> on a little sidenote ... ndiswrapper has a huge range compared to madwifi when using an atheros 5007EG
[22:57] <Brutality> If I go to terminal and type iphone-mount, it says 'cannot touch, permission denied
[22:57] <sageb1> tmcfulton: sudo dmidecode    - gives motherboard info
[22:57] <Brutality> What do i do :|
[22:57] <Wolf23> silent_:  i have it install
[22:58] <billy___> !ask|DrIP
[22:58] <ubotu> DrIP: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:58] <Seveas> billy___, hope for someone else in here to be able to help you :)
[22:58] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I'm not aware of any specific downsides.
[22:58] <silent_> Wolf23: past that it's up to you to figure out how to use it... it's fairly straightforward
[22:58] <DrIP> i need my linksys wmp11v4 working with ndiswrapper
[22:58] <hischild> Brutality, precede it with sudo =)
[22:58] <billy___> seveas: lol okay, thanks
[22:58] <magnetron> hackeron: you could try these Sip softwares: kphone, twinkle, linphone and wengophone . you could install them with applications > add/remove
[22:58] <hackeron> magnetron: I have tried all those :(
[22:58] <Brutality> Can you say that again in words I understand? :$ I'm like really new into this
[22:58] <Wolf23> silent_:  see pv
[22:58] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, so basically, aptitude seems superior .... nikrud however was suggested by some linux guru's to use apt-get ... i'm trying to figure out why
[22:58] <Seveas> billy___, it would seriously help if you can get the wired net working
[22:58] <silent_> what's that linux ventrilo/teamspeak open source equivalent? I can't remember it's name
[22:58] <sageb1> mainly bios information and model and manufacturer
[22:59] <silent_> yack...
[22:59] <silent_> no
[22:59] <hischild> Brutality, sure. Instead of just typing  " iphone-mount " you have to type " sudo iphone-mount " as it's an operation that requires root privileges
[22:59] <DrIP> i have no internet other than my wireless and i /need/ it to work
[22:59] <Brutality> ok thanks let me try
[22:59] <hischild> silent_, you mean mumble?
[22:59] <silent_> mumble, that's the one
[23:00] <magnetron> silent_: teamspeak.
[23:00] <sageb1> brutality, "precede it with sudo" means "sudo [command variables...]" as in "sudo netstat -atunp"
[23:00] <sageb1> oh andthe password is the one for your user account
[23:00] <ArthurArchnix> hischild:  "Once you start using aptitude it is best to continue using it rather than alternative methods of installing packages; otherwise you lose the advantage of aptitude keeping track of which packages you have deliberately installed." That's a quote from the debian user manual... it also says that aptitude is the preferred method.
[23:01] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: "aptitude is now the preferred text front end for APT, the Advanced Package Tool." http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch-package.en.html#s-apt-install
[23:01] <Brutality> Ok now it tells me I should add myself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again
[23:01] <joe_> Hello, I dont know if anyone can help me, but I have a wireless lynksys g pci adapter, and for somereason I can get it to connect to my network at all.
[23:01] <magnetron> silent_: there's a teamspeak client in the ubuntu repositories.
[23:01] <Seveas> Brutality, sudo gpasswd -a your_username_here fuse
[23:01] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I think I'm going to switch over now. The problem is going to be not accidentally apt-get updating :)
[23:01] <Brutality> sweet, thanks
[23:01] <Seveas> Brutality, and then logout + login
[23:01] <DrIP> any help? when i try to make ndiswrapper it phails miserably
[23:01] <Brutality> with terminal ?
[23:02] <joe_> can anyone help me?
[23:02] <Seveas> Brutality, yes
[23:02] <Brutality> Thanks, sec
[23:02] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, alright .... ubuntu is about a month old on my laptop now, i've installed a lot of packages ... would it still be preferably to use aptitude? or will i get some trouble with it?
[23:02] <Seveas> !wifi | joe_, here are some tips 'n tricks
[23:02] <ubotu> joe_, here are some tips 'n tricks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:02] <joe_> thx
[23:02] <Wolf23> silent_:  is it works?
[23:02] <e345> how do you change file association defaults?
[23:02] <mDemocritus> joe_ the first step would be to find out what chipset the card has
[23:03] <Seveas> e345, rightclick on a file, look through the context menu
[23:03] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: My guess is that you'll have no problems switching, but that the benefits of using aptitude will only be applied to anything you install from this point forward. Otherwise, you shouldn't notice a different. That is, however, AFAIK
[23:03] <nikrud> e345: right click a file of the type you want to change, and select properties at the bottom. Change it in the open with tab
[23:03] <hischild> DrIP, can you be more specific? what does it do? what commands did you run?
[23:03] <cable> how in the world do you burn a dvd movie with linux?
[23:03] <cable> i can't find anything that works
[23:04] <snypzz> need a program to watch DVD's
[23:04] <nikrud> !dvd | snypzz
[23:04] <ubotu> snypzz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:04] <tsrchristopher> this makefile installed a module to my kernel how do i remove it?
[23:04] <e345> nikrud: i did that, trying to switch from Movie Player to VLC and its not sticking?
[23:05] <magnetron> hackeron: do you run your own asterisk server?
[23:05] <Brutality> Hmm, still gives me this after closing and re opening: Unable to write to /media/ipod.  Please adjust permissions and try agai
[23:05] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, because currently i'm leaning towards aptitude ... i've heard a lot of good stories about it ... (and i'm laggin like hell for some wierd reason, but that's a sidenote) ...
[23:05] <bill1> seveas: i connect the wire to my ubuntu comp so im on the net on it, what can i do now?
[23:05] <nikrud> e345: be sure to move the radio button
[23:05] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, so ... aptitude it would appear to be from now
[23:05] <e345> i did.
[23:05] <Seveas> bill1, cool, try system -> administration -> restricted drivers
[23:05] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: I've been using apt always, but after going over it all with you I think I'm going to switch too.
[23:06] <snypzz> thanks
[23:06] <sageb1> adding user account to a group: "sudo nano -w /etc/group" and edit the group by adding user account name to it i.e. after last colon in line with a space after that colon, or after the previous user account preceded by a comma separator eg fuse:x:139:username1,username2
[23:06] <bill1> seveas: it said the bcm43xx is not in use or somethin like that
[23:06] <sageb1> note 139 may not be the UID for fuse
[23:06] <Seveas> sageb1, EWWWWW
[23:06] <sageb1> GUID
[23:06] <Brutality> Hmm, still gives me this after closing and re opening: Unable to write to /media/ipod.  Please adjust permissions and try agai
[23:07] <Seveas> sageb1, always use 'adduser user group' or 'gpasswd -a user group'
[23:07] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, yes. The only tool i understood properly so far was apt for it ... and i was satisfied with apt-cache, apt-file and the others ...
[23:07] <hischild> sageb1, why not just use sudo adduser user group?
[23:07] <sageb1> hey i cant find an addgroup app
[23:07] <sageb1> that works better
[23:07] <ArthurArchnix> hischild: It will be really good for me because I install a lot of deb's manually, like deluge-torrent, exaile, phatch, skype. Previously apt would download dependencies and leave them forever if I removed the programs. Aptitude however will remember that those dependencies were downloaded with skype and remove them when I remove skype.
[23:07] <bill1> kind of off topic: anyone know how i can make a DIY ethernet router? lol
[23:08] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, that sounds pretty good
[23:08] <sageb1> bill1, wired or wireless?
[23:08] <mDemocritus> bill1: a couple network cards and ipcop
[23:08] <Seveas> bill1, get an iptables introduction, 'iptables quick reference' from o'reilly is ok
[23:08] <bill1> sageb1: wired
[23:08] <sageb1> bill1, proprietary or linux? >:)
[23:08] <Brutality> Is there like anyone here, who've gotten to the point where he can add music/movies to his ipod/iphone, please come pm with me, I feel like a dumb guy right now.
[23:08] <magnetron> hackeron: which codecs do you use? i recently learned that the speex codec has good echo cancellation. ekiga and linphone supports speex, but it needs to be supported on the server side too.
[23:09] <tmcfulton> Well, I've managed to get X working, but now I have poor rendering speeds
[23:09] <sageb1> bill1, floppy?
[23:09] <bill1> sageb1: floppy?
[23:09] <magnetron> hackeron: see if you can enable speex support in the asterisk box
[23:09] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, yush, i'll switch to aptitude :-) sounds great
[23:09] <aghachi> eopard
[23:09] <bill1> seveas: i installed everything through the restricted drivers manager, now what? what can i do to see if everythings working right?
[23:09] <ronandi> anyone know how to get CS via Steam running?
[23:10] <captine> hi all.  anyone using a good blogging application for offline typing?  using blogspot and dont seem to have a nice graphical editor?\
[23:10] <Seveas> bill1, in the terminal, run this command: sudo iwlist scan
[23:10] <nikrud> Brutality: http://gtkpod.org , I compiled recent versions of that and libgpod for my 3dgen nano
[23:10] <bill1> nseveas: no scan results
[23:10] <Brutality> nikrud:  easier then Amarok?
[23:11] <tmcfulton> sageb1: I have X working, but I have horrible rendering speeds
[23:11] <nikrud> Brutality: the amarok in ubuntu doesn't support later versions of ipods, hardy will have the support
[23:11] <sageb1> bill1, there is a floppy linux router with firewall and also a cdrom version
[23:11] <Brutality> ok
[23:11] <sageb1> tmcfulton, ok, this is a dell laptop?
[23:11] <tmcfulton> desktop
[23:11] <sageb1> wait, scratch. you took out a video card
[23:12] <bill1> sageb1: haha you mean sneakernet?
[23:12] <sageb1> bill1, noooo that's when you add files using a floppy
[23:12] <billy1> do i gotta restart after installing with the restricted drivers manager?
[23:13] <Seveas> billy1, possibly
[23:13] <visof> i want know partitions of my hard disk from ubnutu ?
[23:13]  * nikrud still sneakernets vital stuff
[23:13] <sageb1> if it says to
[23:14] <billy1> seveas: actually now that i think about it ya cuz the comp has to load the firmware into the wireless card.. aight thanks brb
[23:14] <visof> is it fdisk to do this?
[23:14] <erUSUL> visof: better use gparted
[23:14] <nikrud> visof: yes,   sudo fdisk -l
[23:14] <erUSUL> !gparted | visof
[23:14] <ubotu> visof: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[23:14] <sageb1> linux router project is what i suspect openwrt is based on: http://pigtail.net/LRP/
[23:15] <nikrud> visof: that fdisk -l is about the only fdisk command you should use, though
[23:15] <tmcfulton> sageb1: perhaps I should do a more careful configuration of xserver-xorg?
[23:16] <aks_> hello
[23:16] <aks_> I'm trying to get my laptop to run at higher refresh rates than 60hz
[23:17] <aks_> I've been editing the xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to be working
[23:17] <Falstius> aks_: with an LCD?
[23:17] <aks_> Falstius: yes
[23:17] <sageb1> tmcfulton, your X11 is doing what to your monitor screen?
[23:18] <sageb1> aks_, which video chipset/card?
[23:18] <tmcfulton> Rendering at a speed of 10 fps and giving me display delays sometimes when more than one motion is happening on screen
[23:19] <aks_> sageb1: ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 IGP
[23:19] <aks_> sageb1: acc. to HP specifications, the max should be 70hz
[23:19] <sageb1> aks_, mmmm ati. now that's a tough one.
[23:20] <aks_> sageb1: I've found, I just downgraded to 6.10 for the proper driver
[23:20] <sageb1> tmcfulton, it'd be nice to get the motherboard bio version
[23:20] <Falstius> aks_:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#Liquid_crystal_displays
[23:21] <sageb1> aks_, and you still have problems?
[23:21] <aks_> sageb1: not with the driver, that's fine - both 2d and 3d accel are working, which was impossible to get in 7.10
[23:22] <tmcfulton> BIOS?
[23:22] <sageb1> aks_, yes, and ati is going to delay that for 7.10 and beyond
[23:22] <sageb1> mainly cos microsoft asked for help for vista problems with ati cards
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: hmm
[23:24] <sageb1> tmcfulton, yes if i knew what version of bios that dell motherboard is, i can use it to figure out the motherboard model number and find out about the video
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: thanks for the link
[23:24] <aks_> Falstius: I suppose the constant headache I've had since I began with linux two weeks ago is not because of the refresh rate after all :)
[23:25] <Lam> i have a USB mouse that worked initially with 7.04, but when i did a 'apt-get upgrade' a few months ago, my mouse stopped working
[23:25] <styrman> is there an application that can download streams ? i'm watching this one hour tutorial in movie player but it plays it as stream.. and i can't go back or forward :P
[23:25] <kbrooks> i want to password protect a program. when it starts, i'd like a prompt for a password. is there a program that makes this easy?
[23:25] <sageb1> aks_, no that comes from sitting in one spot without timely breaks
[23:26] <sageb1> i mean, at least zen meditators sometimes circumabulate
[23:26] <tmcfulton> sageb1: Bios Revision A02
[23:26] <sageb1> A02?
[23:26] <sageb1> is that a GLX?
[23:27] <tmcfulton> GLX?
[23:27] <ronandi> how do you get steam?
[23:27] <tmcfulton> What is GLX?
[23:28] <billy1> hello can anyone help me configure my bcm card? i installed the drivers via the restricted drivers manager, but the wireless still won't connect. what do i do now?
[23:28] <kbrooks> ronaldo:
[23:28] <kbrooks> !steam
[23:28] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[23:28] <bianconeri4ever> hello I am using ubuntu 7.10 and i need some help with the garbled fonts on wine
[23:28] <lostxion> hello was wondering if anyone could tell me how to fix a problem that says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:28] <lostxion> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:28] <lostxion> "
[23:28] <sageb1> tmcfulton, sorry. optiplex gx series
[23:29] <erUSUL> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter | billy1
[23:29] <ubotu> billy1: bcm43xx-fwcutter (source: bcm43xx-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[23:29] <soundray> lostxion: have you tried to do what it says?
[23:29] <ronandi> kbrooks: yeah, but for linux/
[23:29] <ronandi> *?
[23:29] <kbrooks> lostxion, type dpkg --configure -a
[23:29] <tmcfulton> I have a Dell motherboard
[23:29] <lostxion> in the terminal???
[23:29] <soundray> lostxion: yes, with sudo
[23:29] <lostxion> very new to linux
[23:29] <lostxion> thanks ill try
[23:29] <kbrooks> ronandi,would we link to steam if it didnt work on linux?
[23:30] <billy1> erUSUL: i already did that
[23:30] <sageb1> it could even be a dell dimension 2350
[23:30] <mDemocritus> i'm having issues with a supposedly usb mass storage class device not persisting in /dev... the dmesg logs show detection and assignment to /dev/sdb 1 and 2, but when i try to mount it, cat it, or fdisk it, /dev/sdb doesn't exist... it assumes write through for drive caching, i have a feeling that has something to do with it... any ideas?
[23:30] <kbrooks> ronandi, there's a way to run steam on linux, with wine
[23:31] <tmcfulton> sageb1: My motherboard is a Dell DM051
[23:31] <kbrooks> !wine | ronandi
[23:31] <ubotu> ronandi: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:31] <billy1> is there any command i can use to see if the drivers and firmware are loaded correctly?
[23:31] <aks_> sageb1: yes, it's as if blood drains from your head
[23:31] <sageb1> tmcfulton thanks
[23:31] <killown> how I do to change main menu icon from gnome panel?
[23:32] <SNuxoll> killown: it's part of your icon theme
[23:32] <billy1> is there any way to check if the drivers and firmware for my bcm are loaded correctly
[23:33] <sageb1> tmcfulton, and the monitor is LCD?
[23:33]  * N3bunel is away: Over and Out ...
[23:34] <sageb1> a dell  dm051 uses the i945 chipset
[23:35] <choudesh> quiet channel tonight
[23:35] <tmcfulton> Yes
[23:35] <tmcfulton> Dell E196FP
[23:36] <soundray> mDemocritus: have you tried anything else? Like ls on the devices?
[23:37] <mDemocritus> ls /dev/sd* only shows my internal drive
[23:37] <e345> i need assistance getting video to play on my external VGA port from my laptop
[23:38] <soundray> mDemocritus: is there anything else in the logs?
[23:38] <nitromaster> exit
[23:38] <soundray> mDemocritus: if the devices are created at first and then removed, there should be something reported in dmesg
[23:38] <marlon__> could anyone possible give me a hand? my laptop ubuntu has stopped booting :(
[23:38] <mDemocritus> soundray: i've checked messages, syslog, they don't show anything... dmesg is the only thing that shows anything, but no errors
[23:40] <e345> anyone know how to get an eternal VGA port to work in Ubuntu?
[23:40] <soundray> mDemocritus: have you got other mass storage devices, and do they work?
[23:41] <sageb1> tmcfulton: this fix might work: http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.12.30/intel-945-video-hint/
[23:41] <chickenFuego> e345, yes, for an ati card on laptop..
[23:41] <Ezra> marlon__ what error message-------error 15?
[23:41] <sageb1> if you aren't squeamish about using nano from bash
[23:41] <mDemocritus> soundray: yep, external hdd with ntfs and fat partitions works fine
[23:41] <dataangel> hmmm
[23:42] <soundray> mDemocritus: and have you tested the strangely behaving one with another distribution or OS?
[23:42] <mDemocritus> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59875/ here's the relevent dmesg output
[23:42] <dataangel> i am trying to convert a dvd to a .mp4 file for my sony walkman video player ???? any sugguestions
[23:42] <sageb1> marlon, can you boot up the liveCD?
[23:42] <dataangel> i have dvdrip
[23:42] <dataangel> but it does not do .mp4 files
[23:42] <marlon__> sageb1 yes i can
[23:42] <mDemocritus> soundray: yep... ubuntu dapper ppc on an old ibook, and knoppix on the same machine that i want it to work with
[23:42] <marlon__> ah im sorry, im being dragged away
[23:42] <dataangel> its supposed to like i-pod video files
[23:43] <marlon__> i'll be abck in about 20 mins
[23:43] <mDemocritus> soundray: same thing
[23:43] <dataangel> oh yeah i installed automatix
[23:43] <marlon__> it started by reading my hard drive a really lot, and slowing down my comp to the point where i had to hard reset it
[23:43] <dataangel> 2 that is
[23:43] <soundray> mDemocritus: "Buffer I/O error on device sdb" sounds like an error message to me...
[23:43] <marlon__> and now it wont boot anymore, after acpi services the screen goes blank, and the hard drive light stays on solid :(
[23:43] <mDemocritus> soundray: that's after i pull the usb cable
[23:43] <skrimpy> can anyone help me figure out why there is no user list displaying in xchat?
[23:43] <marlon__> anwyay, back in 20, appreciate any ideas you guys might have then!
[23:45] <dataangel> i am going to try to get it to play a divx5 file, i dont expect to get anywhere though
[23:45] <mDemocritus> soundray: not that it matters, but the machine i want to get this to work with is running ubuntu studio, and the device is a Zoom HD16 multitrack recorder
[23:45] <rsp> anton090: :)
[23:45] <anton090> tja
[23:46] <mDemocritus> soundray: and it SAYS it's mass storage class compatible
[23:46] <skrimpy> running on Feisty and have XChat (not xchat-gnome) and my user list is missing completely
[23:46] <tux97> hello i'm having trouble connecting to my network on this laptop  every other computer is fine what can i do?
[23:46] <sageb1> dataangel: have u tried handbrake: http://handbrake.fr/
[23:46] <mirrorcolor> how to mount a new partition so ordinary users can write permission to it?
[23:47] <dataangel> not yet, i shall have a look though
[23:47] <mDemocritus> soundray: you know if there's any way for dmesg to be more verbose? or if there's any other usb diagnostics i can use? i tried lsusb, but it gave me the same info that dmesg did
[23:47] <soundray> mDemocritus: from the dmesg messages it appears that it is, but if the devices vanish without a trace...
[23:48] <billy1> what can i do to check if all my broadcom drivers are running?
[23:48] <ethand_> billy:  run lspci in a terminal
[23:48] <mDemocritus> soundray: that's why i'm so confused
[23:48] <soundray> mDemocritus: I know you've tried syslog, but I always do a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and observe what is logged while I plug a problem device
[23:48] <billy1> ethand_: what do i look for?
[23:49] <ethand_> lspci | grep broadcom
[23:49] <billy1> ethand_: will you look at a paste of it for me?
[23:49] <soundray> ethand_: that won't tell anything about the drivers and firmware
[23:49] <mDemocritus> soundray: yeah... syslog didn't show anything at all... it was odd
[23:49] <ethand_> if its working it will show there. thats what it sound like he wanted to check....?
[23:50] <soundray> ethand_: billy1 said "drivers" not "hardware"
[23:50] <J-a-k-e> hello all does anyone know why sound in ubuntu just doesn't sound as good as sound in windows for me
[23:50] <billy1> drivers and firmware
[23:51] <mDemocritus> soundray: i'll give that a shot when i'm at the machine... is there any way to tail -f the dmesg log?
[23:51] <billy1> i want to check which drivers and firmare are loaded and what is not
[23:51] <ethand_> if firmware is working it will be in pci. if drivers not working, you dont have network
[23:51] <soundray> mDemocritus: tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[23:51] <billy1> ethand: im trying to get my bcm4311 working.. right now im connected thru the wire
[23:51] <mDemocritus> soundray: wow i can't believe i missed that lol
[23:52] <ethand_> billyl - gutsy?
[23:52] <billy1> ethand yep
[23:52] <billy1> where do i go for compiz help?
[23:52] <sageb1> dataangel, the fix is to convert dvd to mpg and use ffmpeg to convert to mp4
[23:52] <soundray> billy1: to see what drivers are loaded, use lsmod. Firmware-related messages should be in /var/log/syslog. I can't tell you what to look for specifically in a broadcom device
[23:53] <sageb1> something like in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DVD_to_MP4
[23:53] <mDemocritus> soundray: but that'll give me the same info... can i increase the verbosity of the dmesg log?
[23:53] <ethand_> have you looked under 'restricted driver manager' ?  because gutsy has firmware support for broadcom now but it defaults to restricted drivers..you can enable it first
[23:53] <beargins> hello
[23:53] <mDemocritus> soundray: or is there a log for hald?
[23:53] <billy1> ethand_: thats how i enabled the drivers, but for some reason my wireless still isnt working
[23:53] <Reng> is there a program that allows you to password your folder??
[23:53] <soundray> mDemocritus: I don't know
[23:54] <mDemocritus> soundray: rats... any other ideas?
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: eventually i'll get a windows machine over there to test it with, but i was really hoping to avoid that... if it works on windows but not linux i'm outta luck
[23:55] <soundray> mDemocritus: ask the manufacturer?
[23:55] <mirrorcolor> how to mount a new partition so ordinary users can have write permission to it?
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: hah the moment i mention linux they'll laugh and hang up lol
[23:55] <sageb1> billy1, you have tried suggestions like firmware method or ndiswrapper method?
[23:55] <ygorabreu_br_spa> billy1:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:55] <mDemocritus> soundray: of course, i suppose i could try....
[23:55] <billy1> sageb1: yes, and i have looked at that d*** wifi docs page sooooooo many times
[23:55] <ethand_> billyl:  i got my bcom working with ndiswrapper -yes
[23:56] <billy1> ethand: ndiswrapper never worked for me
[23:56] <billy1> ethand: can you direct me to the page that told you how to do it?
[23:56] <sageb1> billy1, i had a client who basically ordered a non broadcom pcmcia card and solved his problem
[23:57] <sageb1> which threw out a weeks worth of help
[23:57] <ygorabreu_br_spa> i could only be able to get my broadcom working by usin' wifidocs+ndiswrapper
[23:57] <stevendemorez> is there such a thing as a v4l2 library to download?
[23:57] <soundray> mDemocritus: manufacturers of niche stuff such as media are usually more flexible than the ones who produce for the broad mass market
[23:57] <tmcfulton> sageb1: no, it didn't work
[23:57] <sageb1> tmcfulton, hm
[23:58] <billyguitarhero> anyways after my comp rudely disconnected me
[23:58] <soundray> mDemocritus: I bet they are aware of Ubuntu Studio as well
[23:58] <ygorabreu_br_spa> billy1:u know the specifications of ur device? by lspci?
[23:58] <ethand_> billyl - yes - give me a moment to find
[23:58] <mDemocritus> soundray: good god i hope so... the hd16 is so effing cool, it'd be so much better if i could pull wavs straight off it
[23:59] <soundray> mDemocritus: well, I hope you find a way
[23:59] <asker> hi someone knows how i can change a pdf document title? not the file name!!!
[23:59] <billyguitarhero> ygorabreu_br_spa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59876/