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lovrewhen i logon, kwin is loaded first, and then compiz starts with --replace. Is there a way to make compiz default window manager, so kwin wouldnt even start....?00:00
Dragnslcrlovre- yes, but last time I tried it, it didn't work very well. I remember there being a couple bugs with it00:03
Biggleshow do you hide files?00:05
Bigglesanyone?00:07
lovreBiggles: put an . in front of its name00:08
Bigglesohh00:08
Bigglestu00:08
lovrefile.txt -> .file.txt00:08
lovrenp00:08
Bigglesty*00:08
Biggleslol00:08
lovre:p000:08
lovreDragnslcr: can you tell me how, so i can try? Its anoyying me how the process of unloading kwin and loading compiz allways kicks the icons out of the kicker... They just float around the desktop.. and i have to restart X numerous times for a normal load to happen00:09
syntethanyone can give me some instruction in how to install a kde theme00:10
Dragnslcrlovre- I think it's an environment variable00:10
Dragnslcrlovre- something like this might work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51138900:12
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lovreDragnslcr: thank you very much, i will take a look...00:15
pat5starmy home folder is getting full and i've just added an external hard drive, is there a way I can append extra space from the external drive to my ~ dirs, or do I need to move /home completely over to the external now? does this even make sense? lol00:16
lovrewhy dont you just use the space as is? Why the need to make it part of home? You can store your data on it just the same...00:17
pat5stari have 5 diff users, everyone has there stuff in their ~ dirs...how do I 'cocatenate' it with the new available space...sry I'm having trouble trying to explain what I'm thinkin00:18
lovrepat5star: its clear what you are thinking... not sure how to do it. Here's what im thinking. Make a folder inside your home dir, something like ~/extraSpace00:19
lovrethen mount that folder to your disc00:19
pat5starlike would I have to create 5 new home dir on the external drive and sym link to it from their existing ~ dirs?00:20
lovreso when you save something in ~/extraSpace, it would be stored on your external disk, and still be accessible from within the home folde00:20
lovrer00:20
jhutchinsAnybody around who knows routing?00:20
pat5starlovre: ok I see. so I've already permanetly mounted the new drive to /external. I guess adding 5 new user folders in /external chown'd appropirately, and symlinked to from the original home folders as ~/extraspace is the best way to go00:22
lovrepat5star: i would go with that. But, you may want to ask around some more, im not the expert....00:23
pat5starI was just trying to make it seamless so that users wouldn't see the diff. I suppose it won't happen but for args sake, let's say I have 10gb space left, and user A wants to upload a 15gb file...he won't be able to fit it in his ~ but will instead have to use ~/extraspace/*00:24
pat5starsry, to clarify, I meant if there was only 10gb space available on the internal hard drive, the external is 500gb so much more space available there00:25
pat5starI'm also thinking about just moving /home right out to the external completely, but this is my first time using one of them and I'm not sure if speed diff is going to be a big impact or not00:26
pat5starit's connected via usb2, if that helps00:26
pat5starbrb00:28
lovrepat5star: not sure if its a good idea to move home dir to external disc. It is external, and you are due to unplug it some time... then youll be with no home dir.. And the speed is decresed, and i bet it would make a difference00:32
ilyahi all00:34
ilyaI have a question00:34
ilyahow can I shape the bandwidth which I forwarding by iptables thruout nat ???00:35
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tekstacyWhen I try to look at my Samba shares, I get the error "timeout on server".  What could be wrong?00:42
NickPrestaDoes anyone else have their time and date set automatically by Public Time Server (pool.ntp.org)? My time occasionally jumps around (sometimes a year ahead/back, sometimes an hour ahead/back, etc). I'm trying to narrow it down to a PTS issue or a system issue.00:42
tekstacyNickPresta, no, but I could change it and let you know00:43
gamma9mutekstacy: is your firewall configured to pass the traffic?00:43
IppatsuManNickPresta: I use europe.pool.ntp.org and I didn't notice any odd behaviour in at least 6 months.00:44
tekstacyno. Will I have to open a port just for the timeserver?00:44
NickPrestatekstacy, well, it happens infrequently (perhaps once every couple weeks) so I don't know if changing it for now would help much (Plus I wouldn't want to distort your time :P).00:44
gamma9mufor samba, i mean00:45
jeremy_hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux00:45
NickPrestaIppatsuMan, hmm. I hardly ever turn off my machine so I haven't tested (yet) to see if the time changes after a reboot. I might do that later. For now, I think I'm just going to manually keep time. Every time this happens I think I lost an hour on my deadlines or something lol00:45
tekstacy:)    AHHH, I see, I was thinking of NickPresta's question and looked at gamma9mu's answer....  duh00:46
tekstacygamma9mu,  That explains it. I forgot about that00:46
tekstacyWhat port does Samba use?00:47
gamma9muglad to help00:47
gamma9muahhh... 1 second00:47
pat5starlovre: ya I agree...I have the same concerns...I'm going to have to think this through a little more...thx00:47
tekstacyNickPresta, I was going to change it, but I noticed I already use pool.ntp.org00:47
tekstacyHaven't seen any erratic time00:48
gamma9mutekstacy: 445 tcp + udp, i think00:49
tekstacygamma9mu, thanks00:50
gamma9muno problem00:50
gamma9mutekstacy: also tcp/udp 135-139  according to the web00:51
gamma9muthose are netbios according to services, though00:52
tekstacyS**T, I opened all those, and the server still times out00:55
d3jakeif I have two Hard drives, one with XP on it, and one with Kubuntu, with seperate bootloaders, is there a way to set up Grub to give me a boot menu screen?00:55
gamma9mudid you open them on the server00:56
gamma9mu?00:56
tekstacyUm, no. the router. :(00:56
Dr_willisd3jake,   You just install grub on whatever hd your are booting the systemn from.00:57
Dr_willisd3jake,  your setup is rather common. :) at least in my house.00:57
d3jakeDr_wills: So, set Xp HDD for master, Linux for slave? or the other way around?00:58
tekstacyLinux is master.                    Just because.....00:58
Dr_willisd3jake,  if you want a grub menu, you install to whatever drive is the one tye system is booting from00:58
Dr_willisthe slave/master stuff dosent matter00:58
syntethcan anyone tell me00:58
syntethhow to install a icon pack?00:58
Dr_willisslave/master is for the location on the ide cable :)00:59
d3jakeI was told that Windows might freak out if it isn't the master drive00:59
Dr_willisi alwyas ise cable select now a days for that setting.00:59
d3jake?00:59
d3jakeor..?00:59
tzangergood evening00:59
d3jakeello00:59
Dr_willisd3jake,  possibially. Linux can work fine on the slave drive.00:59
Dr_willisBut now a days most pc's can boot either drive fine.00:59
tzangerI'm trying to install 7.10 on an older gigabyte board; there's an sis chipset sata controller on here with the drives behind it, but the installer's not detecting the drives... any idea what the driver would be called/ there's no 'sis' in the list it provides00:59
d3jakeokay, here's the trouble, if I can only setup Grub in Linux, then how can I set the XP disc to master, and still boot to Linux to set it up without a bootloader?01:00
Dr_willis on a 'new' system i would put windows on master hd. install windows..  install linux on the 2nd hd.01:00
syntethcan anyone tell me how to change my icons?01:00
Dr_williswhen you install linux - it should see the windows install and create a grub entry for windows. If not you can manually make one.01:00
Dr_willisYou have this setting master/slave all confused. The Location on the IDE cable defines which disk is master and which is slave.01:01
jeremy_hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux01:01
d3jakeDr_wills, I think I know how that works, maybe not, but could we move to PMs? This is getting a bit messy for me to read.01:01
Dr_willisFor the 'safest' install., install linux on the 2nd hd. and put the grub loader/mbr on the 2nd hd also. and set th bios to default to booting the 2nd hd first.. that way if you remove the hd later.. windows will be untouched. BUT that may not be doable from the installer.01:02
intelikey"The Location on the IDE cable defines which disk is master and which is slave."  ???01:02
Dr_willisintelikey,  as far as i know the one farthest  on the end is normally the master. the next one is the slave.01:03
d3jakeThat's with Cable select01:03
d3jakeon many HDDs you use a jumper01:04
Dr_willisI alwyas use cable select now a days.. on the jumpers01:04
d3jakeahh,k01:04
* intelikey thought the drive had jumpers that would define that, and if set to auto then the id number on the controler cards on the drives were used01:04
Dr_willisEven then. with CS.  i think the one on the farthese gets set to master, the other stes set to slave.01:04
tekstacySome cables don't understand "cable select"01:04
Dr_willisThe good old days. :)01:05
d3jakeDr_willis So, hopefully XP will not freak out if it is set to Slave?01:05
Dr_willisd3jake,  it MIGHT.. it mughgt not..01:05
tekstacyI had xp on a "slave" ide, worked fine01:05
d3jakeeheh...01:05
d3jakedid you install it when it was slave?01:06
Dr_willisd3jake,  just moving the allready installed hd of xp form master to slave.. MAY freak out windows01:06
d3jakethat's my problem01:06
zaza!wikipedia Richard Matthew Stallman01:06
d3jakeI'm not sure how badly it would freak out01:06
Dr_willismoving it around. will change the drive letters and freak out windows most likely01:06
intelikeyM$ wont know where the disk is if you tell grub to reorder the drives.01:06
Dr_willisThis is why i said keep windows as the master disk. and  linux as the slave disk01:06
d3jaketherefore I need it Master, while my Linux HDD is slave, but I still need to boot into Linux to run the Grub instaler thingie01:07
SpookyEThi01:07
d3jakeello01:07
Jucatozaza: the channel bot is not for doing Google or Wikipedia searches01:07
Dr_willisd3jake,   You are making this into a bigger problem then it is.. i have my system set up exactly like that.. Grub just gets installed to the master hd in my case.01:07
intelikeyi.e.   map        map             (hd0) (hd1)01:07
intelikey        map             (hd1) (hd0)01:07
Dr_willis I dont need to mess wth much of anything. the installer knows to make a grub entry for linux, that boots it from the 2nd hd.01:08
intelikeythen windows will think it's still on hda01:08
Dr_willisif you really MUST have windows on the slave , then you will proberly need to remap it like intelikey  said.01:08
derdui_has anybody an idea, if kdemod runs under kubuntu?01:08
rootsnatchi doubt it01:08
rootsnatchwhy do you want to run kdemod on kubuntu?01:09
d3jakeokay, then, can I run the installer without the other Disc hooked up, and just tell it "Oh by the way, hda will be a Windows disk, and hdb a Linux?01:09
SpookyETI don't get why kde4 are reinventing compiz-fusion. Not only that I get less than half the frame rate and artifacts all over the place, the effects are crappy.01:09
Regitali have this problem with amarok01:09
tekstacyI moved my xp drive to the slave position and put a new drive as master (for size reasons), then installed linux on the master. Works fine01:09
d3jakegood01:09
Dr_willisd3jake,  with out the other disk hooked  up - you will need to manually configure grugb.,  best to keep the other disk hooked up.01:09
Regitalthe window covers the covers the whole screen basically01:09
Regitaland theres no ´minimize´ button01:10
Regitalanyone know whats going on?01:10
d3jakeOkay, so if it works properly, I'll hook up my XP disk as slave and restart... Thanks for the help so far!!01:10
intelikeyd3jake grub is "pretty" flexable  and linux is extreemely flexable   and windows is.... windows.01:10
d3jakehehe01:11
JucatoRegital: Amarok might be running full screen.there are no maximize or close buttons either right?01:11
RegitalJucato, yeah... how do i disable the full screen?01:11
Regitalánd theres no ´file´ or ´edit´ or any of those01:12
Jucatopress Alt+F3, from the menu that pops up, Advanced -> Fullscreen01:12
Regitalno wait my bad01:12
Regitalok thanks01:12
RegitalJucato, nothing pops up01:12
tekstacyd3jake, just remember, with Windows, failure is not an option.01:12
tekstacyfailure comes pre-installed01:13
Regitallool01:13
JucatoRegital: after pressing Alt+F3?01:13
RegitalJucato, yeah... i think it might pop up behind the window01:13
Jucatohm.. no...01:13
Jucatoare you using something like Compiz?01:14
Regitalyes i am01:14
Regitalcompiz fusionm01:14
Regitalfusion*01:14
Regitalon kubuntu 7.1001:14
jeremy_hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux01:14
JucatoRegital: that could be the problem. things work differently in compiz-fusion. please try asking in #compiz-fusion01:15
Regitalok01:15
tekstacyjeremy_, if nobody can help you here, you could try asing in #ubuntu.  type /join #ubuntu01:16
tekstacyum, or I guess you COULD click the highlighted stuff if you're lazy....01:16
Jucatojeremy_: won't show up on the desktop, but is it detected? does a popup appear when you insert it?01:17
jeremy_no01:17
Jucato!ipod01:17
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod01:17
jeremy_it says the file is loading but it never finishes01:17
d3jakeDr_willis: Alright, I have the other drive hooked up, though I can't see any of the files on it... Do you know of a walkthrough for getting Grub working properly, or do you have the time\want to walk me through it yourself?01:18
intelikeyDr_willis ok seems that it is as you said one connector is master and one slave on cables that support CSEL and mobo's that have pin 28 gounded.   other wise if two disks are set to CSEL and either the cable or the mobo do not support that then the controlers "fight" over the master possition,  and that can have verying results.01:19
intelikeyCSEL is by no means new.  it's as old as IDE.   and i have yet to see an ide hdd that doesn't have jumpers.01:21
d3jakeCSEL = ?01:21
intelikeycable select01:21
d3jakeah,k01:21
intelikeymarked CSEL on the drive itself01:21
tekstacyintelikey, I have one in my desktop w/ no jumpers01:22
intelikeytekstacy you have an IDE disk in your lappy ?01:22
tekstacyno, sata. But I have a laptop ide in my desktop01:22
intelikeysorry   i don't know why i read laptop there.01:23
shadowhywindStrange problem, my caps,num,scroll lock light doesn't work anymore. Any one have any ideas?01:23
* intelikey needs glasses01:23
intelikeyledcontrol shadowhywind01:24
shadowhywindintelikey: any reasons on why it would just stop working01:25
intelikeyshadowhywind i suspect that some peace of code told them too        tleds - blinks keyboard LEDs for TX and RX network packets01:26
tekstacyintelikey, thx.  That looks like a neat toy01:26
intelikeytekstacy i thought that the second looked better  ^01:26
shadowhywindoh01:26
shadowhywindany advice on how to use ledcontrol01:27
rootsnatchi have never used it before01:27
intelikeynever used it yet myself.   but i bet the manpage will help01:27
Dr_willisd3jake,  this is why i said to have both drives hooked up during the install. :)  You will now have to manually edit the menu.lst for a proper entry to boot the windows drive. There  is an examplke entry in the file for windows on the FIRST hard drive. (master) but you decided to not do that..01:28
shadowhywinda random rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that should control some mouse stuff wouldn't make the led's stop working right?01:28
Dr_willisd3jake, as for ;seeing files' on the drive. the thing MUST be mounted somewher. or linux will not see it at all.01:28
Dr_willisd3jake,  that has nothing to do with grub :)01:28
mithraicSo I'm back where I'd started: running 'xrandr -o left' freezes my system.01:29
tekstacycrap, gtg.    Thanks for the help everyone01:29
mithraicWhoops, wrong channel.01:29
d3jakeI know, I was just commenting about it... It saved me a bit of headache (previous bad experiance of having to reinstall XP, wiping out Grub, and having to reinstall Linux to get it back due to my limited Linux\Grub knowlage).01:30
intelikeykonqueror media:///01:30
intelikey!grub > d3jake01:31
intelikeymaybe that page will help01:31
d3jakeneat, thanks01:31
Dr_willisd3jake,  that entry is for windows on the first hd.  - it may need tweaking.01:31
Dr_willisd3jake,  some mb's have a bios feature that lets you pick what hd to boot  - quickly :)  you could boot the other hd that way also.01:32
d3jaketrue01:32
Dr_willisI can hit F11 for a fast 'boot what disk' menu on thix box.01:32
d3jakethough a menu would be quicker than diving into the BIOS, though an option certainly01:32
Dr_willisd3jake,  i do have a menu :)01:33
d3jakeO.o01:33
Dr_willisand i use it at times. heh..01:33
Dr_willisnice feature of the bios01:33
d3jakeneat...01:33
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* intelikey just sets up a list of possable disks to boot in his boot loader on each disk.... can bounce from MBR/boot loader to MBR/boot loader all day if i want.01:33
intelikeygrub example.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d29b6131001:35
SpookyETmy applications.menu has gone missing. how do you recreate it01:36
d3jakeThanks for all the help, a friend of mine was right when he sais that Ubuntu has alot of help with it (or Kubuntu in my case.)01:36
intelikeyexamples of multiple windows boots from grub   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31e6926701:37
lancerockeHi all01:37
intelikeynote that in that last example both windows installs think they are on primary master drive.01:38
mefisto__has anyone used qink (displays printer ink levels) successfully?01:38
lancerockeAnybody have any idea why when I set my panel to 24px high on KDE it doesnt really set itself at 24, leaving the KDE logo higher than 24 px and rendering the bar weird looking?01:38
intelikeyqink   just sounds wrong somehow...01:39
d3jakeI think I'm ready to edit my menu.lst, but I'm looking up the kernel. entry...01:39
SpookyETHow do you recreate '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu'01:39
mefisto__intelikey: there's another called kink, I think that's worse01:40
intelikeySpookyET maybe sudo update-menus01:40
intelikeymefisto__ look about the same to me...   ;/01:40
SpookyETintelikey: no such command01:40
intelikeytab complete it01:41
intelikeytty2 [greg$dell.~] update-menus01:41
intelikeytty2 [greg$dell.~]01:41
intelikeyworks here.01:41
intelikey</shrugs>01:41
intelikeyback later maybe.01:42
lancerockeAnybody have any idea why when I set my panel to 24px high on KDE*4* it doesn't really set itself at 24, leaving the KDE logo higher than 24 px and rendering the bar weird looking?01:43
leo_rockwgreetings and salutations01:49
ehcI am trying to use spanish accents with alt and my numpad but nothing it isn't working. Can I enable this somehow?01:49
leo_rockwehc: try alt gr and the letter (ie. alt gr + a = á)01:49
ehcleo_rockw,  gr?01:50
leo_rockwehc: i believe that's how it's called in spanish keyboards. it's the right alt01:50
leo_rockwehc: if you have your keyboard set up as us intl or smth like that, it is going to work (that's how i set mine up)01:50
ehcleo_rockw, mine isn't setup as spanish or international01:51
leo_rockwehc: do you have a US keyboard?01:51
leo_rockwehc: if so, set it up as US intl in order to use the tildes01:51
ehcleo_rockw, yeah US01:51
ehcleo_rockw, okay01:51
ehcthat makes sense01:51
paarthhello, I was adding some applets to the Panel and now my applications don't have the icons in the taskbar (like pidgen and Amarok). I put the skim panel applet on there but it hasn't been working. could someone tell me how to make them appear again?01:51
leo_rockwehc: then ' and " will be deadkeys01:52
leo_rockwehc: you'll have to put a space after pressing those.01:52
paarthtest01:54
vladanianHey guys, I'm using ubuntu w/ gnome, and I want to control the font in kde apps. Kcontrol does the trick for kde3 apps, but I can't figure out how to control the font for kde4 apps -- any pointers?02:00
Jordan_UHow do I display visualizations in full screen in Amarok ( ProjectM ) ?02:01
leo_rockwvladanian: ./usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings02:02
leo_rockwJordan_U: right click on it02:03
Jordan_Uleo_rockw, Thanks02:03
leo_rockwJordan_U: np02:03
vladanianleo_rockw: There is no option for fonts in there02:04
leo_rockwvladanian: try looking a lil harder, i know you can02:05
Jordan_Uleo_rockw, When I do that It just scales the visuals to fit the screen rather than doing them at full rez02:06
d3jakecrud02:06
leo_rockwJordan_U: yeah... you asked how to put them in full screen.02:07
leo_rockwJordan_U: idk how to change the resolution. i don't even know if that's possible.02:07
Jordan_Uleo_rockw, But for instance, if the window with the visuals was 10 pixels by 10 pixels then in full screen I will get 100 HUGE pixels of visualization :)02:07
Jordan_Uleo_rockw, There has to be a way around that huge limitation :)02:08
vladanianleo_rockw: there are two items under look and feel: Appearance and Notifications. Within appearance, the only thing available to customize is icons02:08
d3jakehehe02:08
leo_rockwJordan_U: i don't use visualizations that much.02:09
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leo_rockwvladanian: my kde is in spanish, otherwise i'll give you the captions of the buttons02:10
d3jakeWith this bit from my menu.lst from my grub directory, does the first number mean the drive, and the second partition number?(hd0,0)02:11
rootsnatchyep02:11
d3jakeyay!02:11
d3jakeI is smart...02:11
d3jakeKinda makes me feel good when I can crawl into a file like that and edit it, instead of M$ controling the boot with Windohs...02:12
intelikeyd3jake welsome to the FOSS ideology/mind set02:15
d3jakeFOSS? I should know that acronym02:15
d3jake...02:15
intelikeyFree Open Source Software02:16
d3jakeahh,k02:16
leo_rockwd3jake: you control the OS instead of the OS controlling you02:16
d3jakeI'm trying to find the proper menu.lst entry for booting XP..02:17
d3jakevery true02:17
StofferI don't suppose there's any way of making the subtitles in kaffeine larger is there?02:17
d3jakeI'd hate to edit my menu/lst and mess up the whole thing02:17
nosrednaekimd3jake: there is an example int he menu.lst... just replace the partition numbres02:17
d3jakeIt can't be that simple....02:18
d3jakeor..?02:18
intelikeyd3jake   sudo update-grub   "might" add the entry for you ?02:18
leo_rockwStoffer: i think you can from the xine preferences02:18
d3jakeone way to find out02:18
intelikeyd3jake and yes it can be that simple.02:18
Stofferleo_rockw, ah, yes, I had a suspicion that kaffiene was a frontend of xine...02:18
leo_rockwStoffer: you can access the preferences from kaffeine itself02:19
Stofferleo_rockw, hmm... I didn't see anything about sub size in the kaffiene settings02:19
leo_rockwStoffer: go to preferences > xine engine parameters (or smth like that , my kde is not in english)02:20
d3jakeDoesn't look like that made the new entry, I'll just copy the example entry and edit it02:20
Stofferleo_rockw, found it, thanks02:21
d3jakeArg, gotta find a way to let Kate edit the menu.lst, where do I stick a sudo....02:22
d3jakeits sad when I can figure things out after I ask how to do them...02:23
nosrednaekimd3jake: "kdesudo kate file02:23
intelikeyd3jake only thing that messes up most peoples head is that grub numbers hdds 0-* not 1-*    or as the linux standard is a-*   and partitions are a sub set of the number   i.e.  /dev/hda1  would look like this in grub (hd0,0)   while /dev/hdb5 might be (hd1,1)        oh and for the permissions issue use  kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst02:24
d3jakehmm.. I opened a console and typed sudo kate, and that worked02:24
nosrednaekim!kdesudo02:24
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:24
jessicahi02:24
d3jakeello02:25
cable5how in the world do i burn a dvd movie with linux?02:25
cable5nothing ive seen does it right02:26
jessicause the burning software that comes with kubuntu02:26
intelikeyk3b02:26
nosrednaekim!dvd02:26
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:26
cable5k3b doesn't transcode movies02:26
jessicaplaying DVD's you can use something like vlc02:27
jessicaburning can be very tempromental02:27
intelikeyyou can use vlc in the console to watch movies...     err i can.02:28
d3jakeEdited my menu.lst, rebooting to see if it'll work...02:28
jessicai know i have just finished watching a movie using vlx02:28
jessica*vlc02:28
cable5but what do i burn a movie with?02:28
cable5as in .avi?02:28
cable5nothing here transcodes02:28
intelikeyjessica svgalibs ?02:28
jessicado you have the file on your hard drive or are you copying it02:28
cable5file my drive02:29
intelikeythat sentance no verb02:29
jessicai wouldnt have any idea i have never tried02:30
intelikey!transcode02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:30
jessicacarnt you just use K3D02:31
intelikeyB02:31
leo_rockwcable5: what are you trying to accomplish?02:33
cable5leo_rockw, get an .avi movie to transcode and burn02:33
intelikeyavi file to playable dvd02:33
cable5i just tried tovid, but it messed up the aspect02:34
leo_rockwcan't avidemux do that?02:34
intelikey!info avidemux02:34
ubotuavidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB02:34
leo_rockwyou may need to use a dvd authoring program02:34
leo_rockwlike qdvdauthor (which i believe is just a frontend anyway)02:35
cable5all the ones ive been trying are really lame02:35
cable5ive tried qdvdauthor02:35
cable5it didn't transcode correctly02:35
jessicadose anyone know if hardy is very stable yet02:35
jessicai tryed it about a week ago but had to go back to gutsy as nothing worked with it but there was a lot of updates i hird02:36
leo_rockwhardy won't even be lts when it is finally released... ¬¬02:36
mefisto__cable5: have you tried DeVeDe?02:36
cable5yes, just now02:36
cable5its a hard drive hog02:36
intelikeyjessica "very stable" and ubuntu in one sentance ???      you're not thinking debian by any chance ?02:36
leo_rockwintelikey: lol02:36
cable5wants me to have 10 gigs free, just so i can transcode one movie02:36
leo_rockwcable5: so?02:37
mefisto__cable5: there's also mandvd02:37
cable5leo_rockw, im on a 40 gig HD, heh02:37
cable5i don't have that kind of space to spare02:37
leo_rockwcable5: dvd transcoding just takes up a lot of space02:38
cable5mefisto__, i dont think ive tried mandvd02:38
jessicai think its the 24th of april hardys stable release isnt it02:38
leo_rockwjessica: yes. and 16 the RC i think.02:38
mefisto__cable5: if you don't have the disk space, you may as well give up now02:38
cable5mefisto__, 10 gigs is outrageous02:38
intelikeyjessica that's the schedule   but it's not chisseled in stone02:38
cable5when i use nero in windows it transcodes on the fly and burns off the resulting dvd disk structure02:39
leo_rockwcable5: a dvd is 4.38gb and you need more room for tmps02:39
cable5using ZERO space02:39
jessicayes i know, i just want some of the fetures hardy offers02:39
intelikeyjessica ask in #ubuntu+102:39
leo_rockwd3jake: did it work?02:39
d3jakeDidn't quite work, good news is that I could still boot to my Linux install02:39
intelikeythey'll know more than most of us.02:39
mefisto__cable5: but where is the "resulting dvd disk structure" stored? on hard disk, right?02:40
d3jakeI selected the XP entry, and it just put up "Starting...." and stayed there02:40
d3jakemaybe I should leave it hang longer02:40
cable5mefisto__, the disk structure doesn't really need to be stored anywhere, just created02:40
cable5the mpeg-4 files are all that reallly need storage, and they're like 800 megs at most02:40
intelikeyd3jake you could pastebin the output of    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device* ;sudo fdisk -l02:41
leo_rockwcable5: 800mb? lol02:41
mefisto__cable5: ???? a disk structure that is stored in memory?02:41
leo_rockwcable5: a dvd is 4.38gb02:41
cable5i know these things02:41
cable5im saying its done on the fly02:41
d3jakesure02:41
jessicais there a way to get a graphical grub boot loader on kubuntu02:42
cable5mandvd seems nice02:42
cable5testing that02:42
intelikeyjessica you can set a background pic.02:42
intelikey!grub | jessica on one of these pages there is a howto02:43
ubotujessica on one of these pages there is a howto: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:43
d3jakeintelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59888/02:43
jessicathanks02:43
intelikeycable5 did you look at kino ?02:44
intelikeyok d3jake you need to add the device   see line 151 of your pastebin  only one drive listed in the /boot/grub/device* file      and you will probably want to remap the drive in the menu.lst with the "map" keyword as i posted earler.02:46
d3jakeokay, lemme see...02:46
d3jakeif you posted it before I rejoined, I don't have that logged...02:47
intelikeyi'll repost it.  but first lets edit the device.map file     kdesudo kate /boot/grub/devic*      add the line        (hd1)   /dev/hdb02:48
d3jakeThanks!02:48
michaelGood Evening every body02:48
michaelCan any body tell me02:48
leo_rockwgood evening michael02:49
michaelWich version of Oracle is butter to install in Ubuntu02:49
mefisto__cable5: if you have free space on a windows partition, you could use that as temp disk space for whichever program you are using02:49
michaelleo_rockw: is nice to meet you02:49
d3jakeSaved.02:49
michaelI am new using ubuntu02:49
michaelAnd i like it very much02:49
intelikeyd3jake next in the file menu.lst      at line 147  add the following two lines02:49
intelikey        map             (hd0) (hd1)02:49
intelikey        map             (hd1) (hd0)02:49
leo_rockwmichael: nice meeting you too. unfortunately i don't use databases.02:49
cable5mefisto__, i did away with my windows partition, heh02:50
* cable5 is now SINGLE booting02:50
michaelleo_rockw: Could you tell me who can help me with that please??02:50
leo_rockwmichael: either here or in #ubuntu02:50
mefisto__cable5: and you still don't have 10gb to spare on a 40gb disk?02:50
intelikeyd3jake between the   root            (hd1,0)     and the     makeactive02:50
d3jakeOkay02:51
leo_rockwmefisto__: i don't have 1gb to spare on a 90gb partition... :-P02:51
d3jakeOkay, saved02:51
norvleo_rockw: I've heard someone say that BDB was better than oracle. But I think they have different purposes02:51
michaelThe only thing i need to uninstall windows xp from my pc is install oracle, in ubuntu02:51
nosrednaekim!oracle02:52
ubotuIf you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html02:52
michaelleo_rockw: thank a lot02:52
d3jakeShould it work now?02:52
michaelthank you ubotu02:52
intelikeyd3jake also to keep "update-grub" from removing that entry   move the line " ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST "    to just above   " title           Windows XP Professional"02:52
intelikeythen it "should" work    yes d3jake02:53
d3jakeOkay, saved and Thanks!02:53
d3jakeI'l try it out now02:53
intelikeyhey root02:53
michaelthanks I think that will work02:54
nosrednaekim /whois root | hack-kit02:54
nosrednaekim^)^02:54
linuxguymarshallAfter I upgrade to KDE 4 how to I get rid of all the KDE 3.x programs?02:54
michaelI will read a little so i can find the solution to my problem02:54
nosrednaekimlinuxguymarshall: you may want to keep them around,some kde3 programs do not yet have a kde4 alternative02:55
linuxguymarshallBut things like Konquerer02:56
linuxguymarshallThey just stick around and annoy me02:56
nosrednaekimah.... well, you can uninstall them if you like02:56
norvyou'll find that the apps don't really take much space, it's the deps02:56
norvso uninstall konqueror 3 and free maybe.. a few megs?02:57
linuxguymarshallI don't care about space. It's really just a tiny nucience to keep them in my menu02:57
BluesKajI have a cli command that starts my Tivo server application pyTivo. i'd like it to autostart without having to use the cli ,like a server should ..any suggestions02:57
leo_rockwBluesKaj: add it to init.d02:57
norvlinuxguymarshall: remove the menu items, that's fast and easy02:58
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: rc,d02:58
BluesKajleo_rockw, you make it seem so easy , i'm sure the'e more to it than just adding a cli command in init.d02:59
linuxguymarshallYeah, I couldn't find any options to remove them. Sorry i'm new to KDE02:59
nosrednaekimrc.d02:59
norvlinuxguymarshall: right click K menu->Menu Editor02:59
linuxguymarshallThanks02:59
BluesKajnosrednaekim, pls explain in bit more detail  :)03:00
michaelBodys can any body help step by step to install oracle database 9i or 10g not Express Edition in Ubuntu??03:01
michaelBodys can any body help me step by step to install oracle database 9i or 10g not Express Edition in Ubuntu??03:01
Daisuke_Ido!repeat03:01
michaelDaisuke:03:02
michaelI need to install Oracle Database 9i or 10g in Ubuntu03:02
norvmichael: is there a reason you need that specific version?03:02
michaelyes because with those version I am working in the University03:03
michaelbut if you can installed other version03:03
intelikeyhmmm d3jake not back yet....   that could be good and that could be bad... ;/03:03
norvmichael: meh, perhaps I should avoid computer science field, then03:03
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: man /etc/rc.local03:03
michaelin wich i can work with Sqlplus without problem is ok to03:03
michaelin wich i can work with Sqlplus without problem is ok too03:04
BluesKajnosrednaekim, thx03:04
michaelnorv why you say that??03:05
norvmichael: well, I thought all I'd need from a db was what libdb and mysql/postgresql did03:06
d3jakewell....03:06
d3jakeit worked, kinda03:06
* intelikey hides03:07
d3jakehehe03:07
norvmichael: it says sqlplus is equivalent to mysql, psql, etc.. not sure if those alternate solutions would work03:07
intelikeyd3jake can you define "kinda" ?03:07
michaelsorry but not03:07
d3jakeIt will boot into Windows without WIndohs caring that its a slave, but03:07
d3jake(I'm getting there :p)03:07
michaelbecause i need to practice in PL/Sql03:07
michaelI mean I need Oracle03:08
michaelI have been looking in google03:08
michaelfor several weeks03:08
michaeland nothing anything help me03:08
michaelI mean nothing help me03:08
d3jakeBut my hardware acted a bit funky (POST not getting to the HDD detection phase, so I reset it, and when I got to Grub I let it time out to the default(kubuntu) but when it started, before getting to the loading screen, it gave me some errors, which were:03:08
norvmichael: heh, I pretty much put no logic in database. I see what you need though03:08
michaelnorv I am sorry what did you say???03:09
d3jake[   89.736406] CPU 0:Machine Check exception 4 Bank4:b20000079f0f03:09
michaelI didnt understand what you say03:09
d3jake[90.134176]TSC 2e3589424c03:09
norvmichael: PL/SQL is a procedural extension to sql. Procedural, as in it's like embedding a whole programming language03:09
d3jake[90.134273] Kernal Panic- not syncing: Machine check03:10
michaelSo??03:10
d3jakeso I shut down, unplugged the second HDD (XP Disk), and here I am03:10
d3jakedoes that help at all intelikey?03:11
intelikeyno03:11
norvmichael: so? you are asking for a proprietary extension, which it's likely /nobody/ will ever provide03:11
d3jakefigures...03:11
intelikeywell i understand what you are saying   but i don't see a reason for it...03:11
mgif573Anyone can help me to play FOX on Demand in Ubuntu03:11
michaelYou mean is that goes againts the laws???03:11
d3jakeNeither do it, it seems that its a bit tempermental for some reason.03:11
intelikeyd3jake that's a ram error03:12
michaelYou mean that goes againts the laws???03:12
d3jakeO.o03:12
norvmichael: meaning it's unlikely someone would have...03:12
mgif573I have instaled ies4Linux and wine03:12
michaelOk then what do you recommend me??03:12
michaelwhat should I do??03:12
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norvmichael: run in emulation. YAY, database in emulation, what fun. but it'll work03:13
michaelnorv Do you speak Spanish??03:13
d3jakeAlright, enough fun for tonight. Thanks alot for the help Intelikey, and hopefully I won't need your help again (if you know what I mean...)03:14
norvmichael: un poco. go to #kubuntu-es03:14
michaelok03:14
mgif573yo tambien03:15
mgif573:P03:15
michaelmgif573: Hablas español???03:16
mgif573asi es03:16
intelikeyd3jake save that error message for #kernel    they might know something that would help you.03:17
michaelNecesito ayuda para instalar oracle 9i o 10g en ubuntu me pudieras ayudar??03:17
mgif573Pues, soy newbie03:17
mgif573en que te atoraste?03:17
michaelPues que no quiero una version express que es la que explican alli03:18
michaelsino quiero 9i o 10g03:18
d3jakeAh, okay, thanks03:18
intelikeyd3jake i'm seeing several things about that on google.com/linux     but nothing decisive03:18
d3jakeso it could still be any number of things?03:18
mgif573oh entonces quieres poder conectar a una DB usando Linux o quieres hacer un Server?03:19
NickPresta!es | mgif57303:19
ubotumgif573: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:19
michaelquiero hacer un server03:19
intelikeyd3jake but it's definitely kernel + hardware   related   and thus probably better question for   #kernel   than  #kubuntu03:19
michaelquiero sencillamente instalar la base de datos en ubuntu03:19
michaely luego03:19
intelikeyd3jake sorry i can't do more there.03:20
michaelestudiar en la misma maquina conectandome con un cliente03:20
Ch1ppyhey, I was having some troubles with kopete and so I want to try to remove all my kopete configuration and start again with a clean plate, but I can't seem to find where the config is... I've tried removing ~/.kopete and ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete* with no luck... can anyone tell me where the other configuration is03:20
Ch1ppy?03:20
michaelch1ppy what was the problem you had??03:21
mgif573michael03:21
michaelsi??03:21
mgif573checa esta pagina http://www.pythian.com/blogs/549/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-linux-70403:21
michaelyo uso ubuntu kubuntu 7.10 Gubsy Gibson03:21
intelikeyd3jake "<d3jake> so it could still be any number of things?"   yeah.    but it is a kernel issue.    possably hardware failing and possably just a bug,   i can't really narrow the field there.03:21
michaeldigo03:21
michaelubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibson03:22
mgif573pues es casi lo mismo03:22
michaelamd 6403:22
Ch1ppymichael: several problems with msn, such as it not recognizing when I had added an MSN contact - they just wouldn't show up when I restarted kopete after adding them, but the contact was there when I used other programs03:22
BluesKaj!english03:22
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat03:22
BluesKaj!es03:22
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:22
BluesKaj!it03:22
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:22
BluesKaj!pt03:22
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.03:22
BluesKajthat should cover it03:22
mgif573pues he usado manuales de otras versiones en ubuntu 7.1003:22
intelikeywell i need to went.    good luck with it d3jake.03:23
BluesKajguess not03:23
mgif573http://www.pythian.com/blogs/654/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon03:23
d3jakecya03:23
mgif573ahi esta para la 7.1003:23
michaelCh1ppy you should enter to Application/add or remove programs them03:23
Jsn0327using network manager, how to disconnect from a wireless network once you are connected?03:23
michaelput Kopete and mark it to remove it03:23
michaelthat's all03:24
michaelok gracias03:24
BluesKajsacktime , nite folks03:24
Ch1ppymichael: that will not remove the configuration... I wish to remove all the personal configuration and start again, as if it was the first time I had run kopete03:24
michaelCh1ppy then I dont know, try looking in google03:25
Ch1ppynevermind, found it after a lot of locate'ing03:25
cable5!mandvd03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mandvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:26
michaelmgif513 gracias, pero la version que necesito expecificamente es 10g03:26
michaelo 9i03:26
michaelya que 11g me obligaria a instalar un servidor de aplicaciones03:27
michaely todo eso03:27
michaely no quiero hacerlo, solo instalar la base de datos y un cliente y listo03:27
michaelno instalar base de datos, cliente y servidor de aplicaciones entiendes??03:27
matt1728!ipod03:28
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod03:28
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matt1728anyone know how to mount an ipod?03:31
foiblesjoin #ubuntu03:35
Jsn0327does anyone know how to disconnect from a wireless network in network manager?03:36
kgoetzmichael: this is an english channel.03:36
kgoetzmatt1728: depending on which generation it may or may not mount propperly03:37
* kgoetz isnt familar with them though03:37
matt1728ahh i got to mount but cant transfer03:38
matt1728i guess windows will be needed yet still03:38
phaedru1matt1728: if you have a windows formatted ipod (VFAT ystem ), you should be able to mount it easily over USB and should be aboe to use amarok / gtkpod03:39
matt1728amarok doesnt seem to want03:41
matt1728to transfer03:41
matt1728i will try gtkpod03:41
kgoetzapple change the protocol at whim, so if its a new one your version of kubuntu may not support it yet03:41
phaedru1Check out this linux journal article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/926603:42
Jsn0327is there a version of WICD for gusty?03:44
mgif573#ubuntu-es03:49
sgroverTrying to play a DVD in my puter.  Getting "The source  can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data03:55
TonrenI have a TON of photos of events in different subfolders of one top folder, and I want to be able to project a slideshow of all of them.  What's a slideshow image viewer that can take images recursively in a directory hierarchy?03:55
sgroverI have libdvdcss installed and am a member of the video group... and I can open the disk and browse the files... any suggestions?03:56
sgroverbtw, using Kaffeine with xine03:56
sgroverTonren: you can do that with the screen saver...03:56
Tonrensgrover: Hmm, that's kind of a weird solution.  It'd be really nice if there was an app where I could configure delay times and zoom options and stuff.03:57
sgroverTonren: I've never had to do that so haven't looked at it.  But I do something similar with my desktop and screensaver....03:58
TonrenI'll look into the screensaver thing; I'm still going to look for an app, though03:58
sgroverSounds like what you are after is a presentation file... but auto add your files.03:58
Tonrensgrover: It seems like there ought to be a program out there that just looks in subdirectories.  It isn't that complicated...03:59
Jsn0327how do you add an app to startup in kbuntu?  it says to goto System > Preferences > Sessions but i can't find it.03:59
sgroverTonren: agreed - I'm sure there is something available.03:59
TonrenJsn0327: Do you know how to use the command line?04:00
Jsn0327yeah04:00
TonrenJsn0327: Open a terminal, type "cd .kde/Autostart", then type "ln -s [thing-you-want-to-start]"04:00
Jsn0327cool thanks04:00
TonrenSo, if you wanted to auto-start firefox, for example, you could type "which firefox" to see that it is /usr/bin/firefox, and you'd type "ln -s /usr/bin/firefox" once you're in ~/.kde/Autostart .04:01
TonrenJsn0327: np04:01
matt1728gtk!pod04:03
matt1728!gtkpod04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:03
nick_matt1728:  so how are you04:04
matt1728good how about you04:04
nick_im good04:04
nick_i just not want to sleep04:05
matt1728lol04:05
prince_jammys!info gtkpod04:05
nick_and all my msn list is away :(04:05
ubotugtkpod (source: gtkpod): manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB04:05
matt1728lol04:05
matt1728brb have to walk the dog04:05
nick_loll i just done that :P04:05
nick_later then04:05
nick_can i have kde 4 on my 7.10 ?04:07
kgoetz!kde404:09
ubotuKDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:09
nick_thnaks04:10
kgoetznp04:11
matt1728does anyone know how to add mp3 and m4a support to gtkpod?>04:12
nick_nah04:14
nick_sorry dude04:14
nick_after add the apt get kde4 i have to do what ?04:15
jarnIs there a way to check where my various partitions are mounted?04:18
kgoetzjarn: 'mount'04:19
jarnkgoetz: Hah, cool, thanks. I've used mount plenty of times to... mount things... but didn't know it could do that!04:19
kgoetzjarn: hehe :) np04:20
jarnOkay, I just hooked up a new external hard drive that I bought that came pre-formatted as ntfs. Obviously, I don't like that. When I try to format it to ext3, however, gparted tells me it's in use. When I type moutn, it's not listed as being mounted.04:21
mefisto__nick_: your question doesn't make sense. have you installed kde4-core ?04:25
matt1728is there a force quit command in linux?04:26
mefisto__matt1728: sudo killall program-name04:27
matt1728thanks04:27
mefisto__matt1728: or alt-esc, then search the list for the prog04:27
matt1728killall worked fine04:28
matt1728thanks04:28
azzcoDoes anyone know how to use espeak with ktts?04:28
foiblesdoes anyone here know how i can install unreal tournament GOTY edition?04:28
foiblesunder linux04:29
azzcofoibles: I do ;)04:29
azzcofoibles: I use wine for it right now though04:29
foiblesim a-searchin' and searchin for the answer04:29
foiblesazzco, i don't want to use wine04:29
azzcofoibles: what have you done so far then?04:29
foiblesazzco, downloaded several scripts that don't run04:29
foibleshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament04:29
foiblestried that04:29
foiblesdidn't work04:29
azzcoOne sec and I'll read a bit on it04:30
azzcoYou didn't get the install dialog to open?04:30
azzcoDo you have the gtk libs installed?04:30
azzcoWhat happens when you "./unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run"?04:31
foiblesazzco, a couple of errors04:32
foibles"directory not found" blah blah04:32
azzcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:32
azzcoPaste the erros there and give me the link ;)04:32
mefisto__if I install kde4 alongside gutsy kde3, will kde3 default apps, etc remain untouched?04:33
azzcomefisto__:  As I experienced it the default kde3 apps still remained installed but the kde4 apps was used in KDE3.5... might have been just me (Installed kubuntu from the kde4 livecd)04:34
foiblesazzco, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59898/04:34
azzcofoibles: write "chmod +x unreal" then press tab for autocompletition, you ca also try the command "ls" to see if the file actually is there04:35
azzcomefisto__: I think that you might get better answers in #kubuntu-kde404:37
mefisto__azzco: still waiting on a response there04:37
azzcoAhh okay mefisto__, just wanted to make sure you knew about that channel04:38
vikkucan i play wmv files in mplayer ?04:38
azzcofoibles: How's it going now? if you're not sure the download went okay try "wget http://www.liflg.org/?what=dl&catid=6&gameid=51&filename=unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run" instead04:39
mefisto__vikku: if you have the right codecs, and the wmv is not encoded with DRM, yes04:43
foiblesazzco, that helps04:46
azzcofoibles: downloading now?04:46
foiblesyeah04:46
azzcoDid you try the chmod and ./ steps yet?04:46
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foiblesazzco, i ain't understanding04:51
azzcofoibles: type "chmod +x unr" then press tab, if you get the full filename just press enter ;)04:52
azzcofoibles: Don't be afraid to ask for help, how's it going BTW?04:58
Daisuke_Idoazzco, i've found it actually works better using the multilanguage installer.  and i hope he realizes that sound is going to be a royal pain04:59
Daisuke_Idoas the game will ONLY use OSS04:59
foiblesazzco, i give up05:00
foiblesi don't exactly know what it does05:00
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: aoss wrapper05:00
foibleswhat does the script even do?05:00
Daisuke_Idoazzco, if only it were that simple05:00
Daisuke_Idofoibles, it installs the game.05:00
azzcofoibles: The script is for installing ;)05:00
Daisuke_Idoyou do need original cds, of course05:00
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: It was that simple for me, except that I had problems with my specific soundcard, that's why I'm using wine ATM05:00
Daisuke_Idoazzco, usually, using the aoss wrapper, if nothing else is using the sound subsystem, it's no problem05:01
Daisuke_Idowell, apparently something was *always* using ity05:01
azzcofoibles: How far did you get?05:01
Daisuke_Idoso i would have to log out and log in, launching UT before any other apps05:01
Daisuke_Idojust to get sound05:01
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: Eeew, never had that problem myself, I have a realtek thingy built in sound, it made the sound sound very weird05:02
foiblesDaisuke_Ido, azzco what do i do once the script is done05:03
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: Highpitch, low quality (I mean like under 2k Hz)05:03
Daisuke_Idoazzco, eww as well :\05:03
azzcofoibles: try to type ut in a konsole05:03
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: Indeed... only reason I use wine -_-05:03
Daisuke_Idoi would imagine it works just as well under wine05:03
Daisuke_Idoprobably more reliably05:03
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: Works great under wine... actually alot of things are better, except for the graphics speed05:04
azzcoMore features working, les likeky that you encounter weird texture bugs, etc etc05:04
Daisuke_Idoactually, that would probably be an improvement05:05
Daisuke_Idoit ran far too fast natively05:05
azzcoYeah I remeber that it did that a few times for me.05:05
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: Still have it installed?05:06
foiblesazzco, doesn't seem to do it05:06
foiblesso i dl the script, then just play with the cd in the drive?05:06
azzcofoibles: Do you get any erros thrown back at you?05:06
foiblesazzco, says command not found05:06
azzcofoibles: the script install the game from the CD to the HD, you should be able to run ut by typing ut in the console after installation.05:07
azzcoOkay =s Then the install was probably not successfull05:07
foiblesazzco, ah, then i just wasn't doing it right05:07
voss749Hey guys I love the new kde 405:17
voss749Anyone awake?05:18
ForgeAushey still getting QInputContext: no input method context available issues05:31
ForgeAuseven when I installed SKIM, that input method thingy05:31
ForgeAusassuming its part of whats missing from AndLinux how do I go about tracking it down/disabling it?05:32
foiblesazzco, i give up05:32
foiblesjust going wine05:32
ForgeAusfoibles?05:32
ForgeAuswhat u giving up on?05:33
foiblesinstalling unreal tournament under linux05:33
foiblesusing a script05:33
ForgeAusoh IC05:33
ForgeAusI doubt I'd be any help there05:33
ForgeAushmm I have unreal tourney somewhere...05:33
ForgeAusshoulda sold the damn thing ages ago :)05:33
Evolution2hey guys, I have ext3drives installed in windows but recently when I try to access my kubuntu partition windows tells me that it wants to format the drive05:35
Evolution2any ideas05:36
foiblesEvolution2, windows can't read anything but ntfs and fat3205:36
Evolution2foibles: but it used to work. that's my question05:37
foiblesEvolution2, i dont know otherwise05:37
foiblesi know its possible for windows to read ext3, but its a pain to setup05:38
Evolution2foibles: if I format like it says, would it completely wipe out my partition?05:38
foiblesyes05:38
dueperduehi05:39
Evolution2ah ok05:39
Evolution2k thanks05:40
tuxwulfAnybody any ideas how to catch CPU temperature in a script?05:43
simulasystem gaurd snags that value... maybe that is a starting point for finding a lead05:45
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ForgeAusEvolution2 you need an IFS06:04
ForgeAusdamn he's gone06:05
simulacould someone point me to a command line tutorial on how to format/mount a second sata drive?06:09
simulai'm a newbie and i want to learn the command line way to go about it :)06:09
raevinsimula: tried searching google?06:10
simulathe stuff i have found doesn't seem to be working for me :/06:10
simulahttp://www.debianhelp.org/node/1092606:10
raevinhttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/65690-second-sata-drive-unable-mount.html06:10
simulathanks raevin06:11
raevinsearch: "linux how to mount a sata drive"06:11
raevinno problemo06:11
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raevin-SLEEPINGanyone have any good c++ tutorials for linux?  i got a windows background in it, but want to start from the ground-up again, since i know the two are different06:14
simulahave you played with mingw on windows?06:15
raevin-SLEEPINGi've touched it...but i didn't do much with it06:16
simulawhat kind of stuff are you thinking of making... command line stuff... or gui stuff?06:16
raevin-SLEEPINGin the end, gui...but, i want to do some command line stuff first06:17
bmac2I cannot get kubuntu to install on a dual processor machine, dell poweredge, and from all the docs and references online it has something to do with dual processors06:18
bmac2and reading stuff at the same time, a known bug06:19
bmac2gives a squashfs error on any version06:19
bmac2anyone know a workaround to get kubuntu on this server?06:19
bmac2tried the standard noapic apci=off06:19
calcmandananyone having issues loading distrowatch.com with konqueror?06:30
calcmandani can load it with netscape and firefox though.06:30
pat5starhi all, was just setting up some cron jobs and realized that if an error occurs, the system will use the MAILTO variable to email me about it...but I can't find where it goes...or if it's even being sent. Does kubuntu have an internal email system setup automatically or do I have to do something?06:40
pat5starcalcmandan: I just tried with konqueror, no problems here06:41
pat5starbmac2: wish I had my notes here but I don't...I had the same server and same problem about a year ago. I remember I had to compile my own kernel to get it working06:42
bmac2pat5star, but I can't even install06:43
calcmandanpat5star: thank you06:43
bmac2I can install debian, slackware, freebsd06:43
pat5starcalcmandan: yw06:43
bmac2anything except an ubuntu based distro06:43
bmac2live cd hoses06:43
bmac2live dvd hoses06:43
bmac2alt dvd and cd hoses06:44
bmac2tried ubuntu, kubuntu both desktop and server06:44
bmac2there is mention of this error being known06:44
bmac2and a fix for it06:44
pat5starbmac2: I'm looking for my notes, may take a few mins but I remember I wasted a couple of days on it...but once I got it working it was awesome...I'll see if I can find it06:44
bmac2fix is mentioned all over the internet06:44
bmac2but not the fix06:44
bmac2k06:44
bmac2thanks06:44
bmac2I am running kubuntu on like 5 machines06:44
bmac2just this server is being a pain in the ass06:45
pat5starbmac2: oh that just reminded me...I used debian, not kubuntu...may not work for you anyways06:45
bmac2dang06:45
bmac2there has to be a work around06:45
bmac2I just can't find what it is06:45
bmac2lol06:45
pat5starbmac2: but I'm like you now, 5 machines here with kubuntu now, I used to be diehard debian fan but kubuntu is just easier now :)06:46
pat5starand before I get bashed, I know kubuntu is a derivative :P06:46
bmac2it is a derivative06:46
bmac2but still different06:46
bmac2distro06:46
bmac2just like a lot of debian deviants over the years06:47
bmac2all the way from ubuntu, to knoppix, all the way back ot storm linux06:47
pat5starbmac2: yep I hear you...but I used to be strictly debian. After trying kubuntu for the first time, I found it similar to debian in the ways I wanted, but much easier to install and detect hardware, it just took the pain part out of debian...never looked back since :)06:48
pat5starback to my little question...nobody knows what (or if anything) happens to default system email in a fresh kubuntu install?06:50
bmac2do a ps aux06:50
bmac2 with a pipeline   | more06:50
bmac2on it06:50
bmac2and see if there is a mail mta installed06:50
bmac2I don't think there is by default06:50
bmac2debian  always put exim on by default06:50
bmac2but06:50
bmac2you had to configure it or it was broke06:51
pat5starbmac2: i don't have any smtp server running, nor want one...just wondering if system (error) emails got sent some other method by default...it doesn't appear that it does06:51
bmac2no06:51
bmac2but there has to be a way to tell it where the mail server is06:51
bmac2or it wouldn't make any sense to even have that06:51
bmac2I just have no idea where it would be06:51
pat5starthen I guess the only way you find errors from things like a screwed up cron job would be in the logs then, eh?06:52
bmac2or06:52
bmac2have the email set up somehow06:52
bmac2or tell the cron to send a message to another local machine06:52
pat5starsee why I'm wondering this is because I have another system that does run my smtp server, and if I have any problems it emails my ~ account, where I have fetchmail set up to send it to my primary email address adn I'm notified right away06:53
pat5starbmac2: ok, I'll look and see if I can alter the MAILTO variable to use my other server...thx for that idea06:54
bmac2np06:54
bmac2there has to be a way to fix that06:54
calcmandani figured out why distrowatch wasn't loading06:54
bmac2I know people who do it thatway06:54
calcmandani had browser id shut off.06:54
bmac2just never asked them06:54
bmac2lol calcmandan06:54
calcmandanonce i re-enabled it, it loaded.06:54
bmac2sounds like something I would do06:54
bmac2don't you just hate that?06:54
bmac2working hard, doing your thing06:54
calcmandan*nod*06:54
pat5starbmac2: gl with your problem, I didn't bother looking for my notes because I remember now it was debian I installed on my poweredge, so I doubt it will be any help to you06:55
bmac2and forgot something you did earlier06:55
calcmandani prefer to use konq.  firefox is bloated.06:55
bmac2the more I use opera06:55
bmac2the more I lik eit06:55
calcmandanit's fast at loading from what i've seen.06:56
pat5starbmac2: agrees, lol! that's why I try and write everything down I do nowadays...I've done so many things in the past that I never wrote about, only to find like a year later I need to do it again and have no idea how I did it the first time06:56
bmac2HEY06:56
bmac2no06:56
bmac2w06:56
bmac2leave our senility out of this06:56
bmac2it ain't MY fault I am getting old06:57
bmac2and forgetful06:57
pat5starcalcmandan: I'm beginning to agree...I used to be a huge firefox fan but lately I'm get discouraged with it...but I'm not a big fan of konqueror or opera either...so I'm still stuck with firefox06:57
calcmandanpat5star: yeah i was using teh mozilla suite back in the day. read about firefox .9.06:57
calcmandani downloaded it and was hooked06:57
calcmandanthen, slowly as they added more and more features, it got so slow at loading.06:58
calcmandanand little bugs where i can't use the hotkeys to open or close tabs...06:58
calcmandanon youtube, especially.06:58
calcmandani like konqueror.  i got used to its hotkeys when i worked at apple.06:58
pat5starcalcmandan: me too, remember messing around with netscape 4.7 to start because I refused to use IE, and unless I'm wrong, mozilla is built on the original netscape code06:58
calcmandantheir browser is almost identical to konq.  so it wasn't hard for me.06:58
calcmandanyes.  they split the project because the suite was too bloaty.06:59
calcmandanfirefox was lightning fast.06:59
calcmandanWAS06:59
calcmandanit matters to me.  only running an athlon 1500+ with 1gb of ram.07:00
calcmandankubuntu 6.06.2 lts.07:00
pat5starcalcmandan: ya it was awesome back then. funny you bring this up because I just read on /. the other day that netscape is finally officially dead. It's too bad in a way, because I remember when v6 came out it was pretty good07:00
calcmandanyeah07:00
calcmandanwhen i read that post, i downloaded the last version of netscape for memory.07:00
calcmandani used netscape back in the day.07:01
calcmandanin the mid 90s07:01
calcmandani still run mozilla.07:01
calcmandanfor fun. it's basically firefox07:01
pat5starcalcmandan: lol, good idea...vintage software...might be worth something someday when you are the only person with  a copy of it left lol07:01
calcmandanlol07:01
calcmandanopera is fast!07:02
pat5starcalcmandan: ya I have it installed...I don't know how to explain it but I just don't like using it. It is fast, all the plugins work for it fine, but I still prefer firefox at this point even tho I'm now having plugin problems and it is definitely slower07:03
calcmandanpat5star: i always made a point at having a copy of netscape on my machine.07:03
calcmandanpat5star: yeah. i generally have such loyalties to certain software. but i have gotten a bit picky about performance on aging hardware.07:04
pat5starcalcmandan: me too, now the only diff is when I work on any friends/family computers I install firefox if they don't have it. I tell them I refuse to help them unless they let me install it, then I usually get them to make it their default :)07:05
calcmandanpat5star: i'd be on a newer version of kubuntu, but i can't seem to get wlan working on newer versions on the live discs. so i'm sticking with what i have. works fine.07:05
calcmandanpat5star: yeah, i have converted many friends to firefox.07:05
pat5starcalcmandan: I hear you on that....I only upgraded to gutsy 2 weeks ago because it took me awhile to wlan working too, but now that it is I really like it. I also have kde4 installed but not my default yet, still using kde3...07:06
calcmandanpat5star: yeah, i'm really excited about kde4. saw the keynote during the install party.07:07
calcmandanpat5star: i'm a big big big fan of kde.  the newer look and improvements have brought kde a long long way.07:07
pat5starLooking forward to heron tho, because kde4 looks good and seems to be much faster. I'm not sure if I'm in the majority here or not, but I really like little things like dolphin for the file manager, and the new layour of the kmenu07:07
pat5starcalcmandan: I know it's said every year, but I really think it's going to come true now with kde4. This will be the year of linux for the desktop :)07:09
pat5starespecially with the eye candy like compiz, which works really well too07:09
calcmandanpat5star: well, we'll see. the EEE is now going to be available in xp. and i have a suspicion that it will slowly push linux out.07:09
pat5starcalcmandan: what is EEE>07:10
pat5star?07:10
calcmandanpat5star: asus eee07:10
calcmandaneee.asus.com07:10
calcmandanmicro laptop with linux preinstalled.07:10
calcmandansold 350k or so of them the last 6 months.07:10
pat5starcalcmandan: just looked it up on wikipedia...that's cool, surprised I didn't hear about that before. Sounds similar to gOS which was just featured in this months linux journal too. With all these diff things coming out, it can only be good for all us linux geeks :)07:12
calcmandani'm shocked, frankly.07:12
calcmandanif you read /., i'm shocked.07:12
calcmandanyes, it's only good for us.07:13
calcmandanthough we'll survive just fine as underdogs.07:13
calcmandanm$ can keep the rootkits and virus writers on their sights.07:13
pat5starcalcmandan: I read it every other day...that's why I can't believe I missed that...although I'm bad for only reading articles if the headline or first few sentences catch my attention, othewise I skip it07:13
calcmandanpat5star: oh i'm the same way.07:14
pat5starcalcmandan: agreed! I'm finding I'm getting busier tho without advertising whatsoever from people and small businesses just sick to death of windows and willing to try linux now. I set up servers for the businesses with debian and kubuntu for personal computers, and have not had one unhappy customer yet...07:15
pat5starcalcmandan: The trick I've found is that if they need windows for some kind of crucial software that only runs on it and won't work with wine, I dual boot windows and kubuntu for them...and the install cd's have made that so incredibly easy to do now too :)07:16
jarnI'm trying to format a new external hard drive as ext3, but the sizes are screwed up. It's a 500gb harddrive (meaning it's actually 465 ;)), and it shows up as 465, but it apparently thinks 30 gb are in use, telling me free space is 435 - and this is just AFTER I formatted it. I checked and there's nothing in it.07:17
bmac2pat5star, make sure you try virtualbox07:17
bmac2it blows wine away07:17
calcmandani have friends who complain that kde/gnome looks so much like windows. i tell them that it's easier for those transitioning to linux from windows to get the gist.07:17
pat5starbmac2: I've been unsuccessful getting that working properly yet...it's on my todo list tho!07:17
bmac2that way they never leave linux, just open a window with xp in it, or whatever version you need07:17
bmac2we are running all kinds of crap in it07:18
bmac2I can run xp or vista both07:18
bmac2inside of it07:18
pat5starbmac2: ya I definitely have to get that working right. It hasn't been a big thing for me tho because at home I have my entire family (even my kids) diehard linux fans, so they don't want or need linux07:19
calcmandanbmac2: does it install xp in a virtualbox session?07:19
bmac2yep07:19
calcmandanhmmm.07:19
bmac2I am runing xp right now inside of it07:19
pat5staroops, I meant they don't want or need WINDOWS, big typo there lol07:20
bmac2so I can run some software we run for the project I work on07:20
bmac2lol07:20
calcmandanwell, we're talking about a virtualized environment.07:20
bmac2we know what you meant, not what you said07:20
pat5starbmac2: lol07:20
bmac2but calcmandan this one works nice07:20
bmac2most of them I think suck07:20
bmac2I HATE vmware07:20
bmac2with a freaking passion07:20
bmac2always have07:20
bmac2always will07:20
calcmandani haven't had any luck with vmware.07:20
bmac2virtualbox WORKS07:20
calcmandanalways some issue with my kernel.07:20
calcmandanunfortunately, virtualbox isn't in the repo list.07:21
bmac2repo list?07:21
pat5starbmac2: virtualware is diff than vmware? I thought they were the same...I've only tried to get vmware working and was unable too, although I didn't put a lot of effort into it07:21
bmac2what is a repo list?07:21
jussi01!virtualbox07:21
ubotuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox07:21
calcmandanapt-cache search07:21
bmac2virtualbox07:21
bmac2that is it07:21
bmac2that's the ticket07:21
bmac2NOT virtualware07:21
jussi01!enter | bmac207:22
bmac2or vm ware07:22
ubotubmac2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:22
pat5starbmac2: wow, I'll check that out tonight then07:22
bmac2do try it07:22
pat5starbrb, going to check it now actually07:22
bmac2we have a program that was originally written in Visual C++ and .net and stuff07:23
bmac2when the software was run on windows, before Pluto gave the code to opensource07:23
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jussi01!away > dhq_sleeping07:23
bmac2we are in the middle of re-writing it, but we have to have ti to build new screens, so we end up running it inside of virtualbox.  It installs beautifully, does the XP udates, everything07:24
dhq_sleepingjussi01: what happ07:24
vltHello. What is the easiest way to let pop up a small kde notification window from a bash script? Any dcop magic?07:25
calcmandanfound the virtualbox apt repo.07:26
calcmandandownloading it now.07:26
calcmandanyeehaw07:26
calcmandanwe shall see how this baby runs.07:26
calcmandantoo bad.  ihave no xp discs07:27
calcmandani do, however, have 7.1007:27
bmac2it will run win98, even win3.11, vista07:27
bmac2any version you have laying around07:27
pat5starI'm downloading it too right now07:27
pat5starI have vista installed on the computer I'm using right now, will see how this works07:28
calcmandani have absolutely zero m$ software on my machines.07:31
calcmandanall gnu07:31
calcmandanActually, I'm quite proud of that.07:31
jussi01dhq_sleeping: did you get the pm from the bot?07:34
pat5starcalcmandan: actually that is cool, I hate having to still have ms products around but I do for work. anyways, I have it all installed but have to log out and back in to try it out...I'll be back in a few mins07:39
pat5starbmac2: thx for telling me about this, brb07:39
calcmandang'night yall07:41
vltI solved my problem using kdialog (if anyone is interested ...)07:54
doktoreashello everybody07:58
doktoreashow can i Install kubuntu on a xfce installation? is enough kubuntu-desktop?07:58
jussi01doktoreas: yes, just install that and it will pull everything you should need08:00
doktoreasand after that I can issue a aptitude remove xfce-desktop?08:00
jussi01!purekde | doktoreas08:00
ubotudoktoreas: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »08:00
doktoreasthx08:00
jussi01doktoreas: s/!Gnome/Xfce08:01
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Admiral_Chicagowhat is the command to unzip a file?08:11
Admiral_Chicagoi mean its in a .zip08:11
jussi01Admiral_Chicago: i think ark can handle them, or do you need the commandline?08:13
Jordan_UHow do I get full rez full screen visuals in Amarok ( using ProjectM )?08:34
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cacahai08:43
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noisekillerAnybody there? *knock knock*08:47
jussi01noisekiller: yep08:48
doktoreashello08:50
noisekillerjissi01: Know anything about Remotedesktop Client (T.Sauter)? Anyway to switch (minimize) during remoting?08:50
doktoreasI have just installed kubuntu over my gnome installation08:50
doktoreasnow i am running the apt remove from purekde, but it want take out xorg08:50
noisekillerjussi01: Or can recommend any better remote desktop from Kubuntu to Win-machines.?08:50
doktoreasis it normal?08:50
jussi01noisekiller: i usually us krdc08:51
jussi01doktoreas: weird, not that i know of08:51
jussi01doktoreas: did you use aptitude orapt get?08:51
noisekillerjussi01: Didnt get that workin. Stuck at 'Authenticating' .. Think it tries VNC instead of RDP for my host.08:54
thumperis there a simple fix for getting kopete to work on gutsy (up to date AFAIK)08:54
jpatrickthumper: the bug which made it crash on launch was fixed in -updates08:57
thumperjpatrick: it doesn't crash, just takes 100% cpu and is non-responsive08:57
jpatrickthumper: apt-get install --reinstall kopete?08:58
noisekillerjussi01: Never mind ... found out I need to type rdp:// with krdc. I'll try it out.. Thanks! :)08:59
jpatrickthumper: if not, install kdenetwork-dbg and pastebin the output09:00
dedihow can i start a app on a specific desktop?09:01
thumperjpatrick: reinstall didn't fix it09:04
thumperjpatrick: installing kdenetwork-dbg now09:04
jpatrickthumper: best check what the debug says09:04
needhelpanyone knows how to create a gpt partition through gpart?09:08
jpatrickthumper: not sure, but you may have to restart KDE to make it find the -dbg libraries09:08
thumperjpatrick: hmm, that's not going to happen right now, too much to do09:10
jpatrickthumper: well let's just run: gdb kopete and hope for the best09:10
jpatrickthumper: did you have any plugins enabled?09:17
thumperjpatrick: yes I think so09:18
thumperbut I'm trying to get some work done right now, kopete will have to way09:18
thumpers/way/wait/09:18
jpatrickthumper: ah, then they're probably mucking something up09:18
jpatrickwell, have fun working on Launchpad!09:19
* noisekiller <3 kubuntu09:21
jpatricknoisekiller: welcome to the club09:21
noisekillerjpatrick: It takes some skill to get used to it ... but when you're there - you love it. My Knetworkmanager went bad and allowed only WEP with manual configuration... edited /etc/network/interfaces and now it works fine. :)09:23
jpatricknoisekiller: I've never liked NetworkManager and always edit /etc/network/interfaces09:23
noisekillerjpatrick: As a newbie thats hard.. thank god we've got google. 8-) Can you recommend any sweet web editor (like Frontpage etc)09:25
jpatricknoisekiller: hmm09:29
jpatrick!nvm09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:30
jpatricknoisekiller: nop, sorry09:30
jpatricknoisekiller: personally I use vim <309:30
noisekillervim? :) Sounds great.09:30
jpatrick!info vim-full09:31
ubotuvim-full (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 943 kB, installed size 1892 kB09:31
noisekillerjpatrick: Something tells me its almost as good as notepad was in Vista. ;)09:32
jpatricknoisekiller: vim just rocks when you get used to it09:41
appelzanoisekiller: you are horribly mistaken :P09:44
blue-froghi, what's the equivalent of gnome language selector in kde please?09:44
appelzaunless you meant a WYSIWYG html editor09:44
jpatrickblue-frog: it's in System Settings -> Regional and Language09:45
blue-frogjpatrick: hum, that thing didn't seem to do a lot. absolutely no i18n packages have been downloaded/installed. is that normal?09:47
jpatrickblue-frog: install: language-pack-kde-fr09:48
blue-frogjpatrick but sorry just seeing I am in the wrong channel. using kde4. ty09:48
jpatrickblue-frog: then: kde-l10n-fr09:48
blue-frogjpatrick: oh ok you mean ther's no automated way to select the language as in gnome. you have to do it manually. ok no problem. I know how to do. rty09:49
jpatrickblue-frog: for KDE 4 that is09:50
noisekillerjpatrick & appelza: I'll give it a try ... guess it not wysiwyg but neither is notepad.09:53
appelzafrontpage is afaik, and you asked for something like frontpage09:54
jpatricknoisekiller: here's my personal configuration is you want to give it a try: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59909/09:55
jpatricknoisekiller: install vim-full and save that as .vimrc in your /home09:56
doktoreasanyone with kmail and imap gmail?09:58
jpatricknoisekiller: and of course the vim tutor will get you started: http://www.cs.umu.se/~janl/vimtutor.txt09:59
noisekillerjpatrick: Thanks, but it feels like i need something more GUIer right now. :)10:01
jpatricknoisekiller: Kate?10:01
noisekillerjpatrick: Don't know her..10:01
jpatricknoisekiller: "she" is in K-Menu -> Utilities10:02
kgoetz*grin*10:02
kgoetzthats a classic quote10:02
noisekiller:)10:02
jpatrickkgoetz: what are you hiding there for? :)10:02
pat5starnoisekiller: just started watching the chat here, not sure if you already been told, buy have you checked out bluefish or screem?10:03
noisekillerjpatrick: Ok.. thats enough for me while coding. But if i'd like something with ftp aso..10:03
jpatricknoisekiller: ftp daemon?10:03
pat5starnoisekiller: they are wysiwyg html editors10:03
noisekillerpat5star: all tips are welcome... afaik, bluefish, screem .. i'll take a look around. thanks10:04
kgoetzjpatrick: i dropped in here for some reason (which i forget), and i havent rconnected yet :)10:04
jpatrick!ftpd | noisekiller (maybe this)10:04
ubotunoisekiller (maybe this): FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP10:04
jpatrickkgoetz: nice to see you again anyway10:04
noisekillerNow we're talkin... :)10:05
alromaithicould any1 tel lme how to use the nvidia restricted latest drivers? i want to use it and enable it as default   please10:06
kgoetzjpatrick: ditto.10:06
alromaithibtw gnome is easy in some parts and KDE also  , however KDE is getting complex and complicated with every new options :S i hope they put an option called KDE Theme packages where you get a readied theme  FULL packages which comes for  example Apple mac theme when you throw it in that manager and enablke your system become an apple . similar to other themes get it?10:07
alromaithiplease help me enable and use restricted driverts10:15
alromaithiwith ubuntu gnome i just go to administrations and enable it , this is complicated!!!10:15
ActionParsniplo all10:15
alromaithii had this problem since i used Kubuntu10:15
ActionParsnipalromaithi, what problem?10:16
alromaithii want to use Nvidia restircted drivers10:16
alromaithithe latest drivers10:16
alromaithii want to enable it aswell , downloading it will not enable it , this system doesnt have a brain10:17
kgoetz!nvidia10:17
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:17
ActionParsnipthen enable then in synaptic or whatever you use (or edit /etc/apt/sources.list to enable them)10:17
alromaithi how tos are  for the terminal konsole stuff10:17
alromaithikde does t he clicks no need for terminal to do th is10:18
ActionParsnipalromaithi, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <whatever>10:18
alromaithiActionParsnip: this will install it but not enable it10:19
ActionParsnipalromaithi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia you been there?10:19
alromaithiyes ActionParsnip10:20
alromaithii dont see restricted driver opt ions maybe its deleted?10:21
pat5staralromaithi: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?10:21
alromaithi:S10:22
alromaithino10:22
alromaithiwhy is it not in by default what hth ehell10:22
pat5staralromaithi: :)   do that, then it will be in your system administration panel10:22
alromaithithanks10:22
pat5staralromaithi: yw10:22
alromaithipat5star: may i ask , will kubuntu 8.04 have compiz in by default?10:23
pat5staralromaithi: that's my understanding that it will10:23
alromaithiim using beta i dont see compiz :S10:24
ActionParsnipalromaithi, no bad thing :)10:24
alromaithii want this system to destroy Windows and MAC!10:25
alromaithibig TIME10:25
ActionParsnipalromaithi, it already does :) :)10:25
reel_Hi, How do I get the list of installed packages and the size each occupies in my system ? ( tried dpkg --get-selections for list but no size field )10:29
ActionParsnipreel_, try dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n10:30
* ActionParsnip google nicely10:30
jussi01nice work ActionParsnip10:30
reel_ActionParsnip, That was nice.  Thanks!10:31
doktoreasis there a way in kmail to get only subject for imap?10:33
ActionParsnipreel_, np dude10:36
ActionParsnipreel_, google is a good tool :)10:36
yao_ziyuancan anyone recommend a linux game similar to MechCommander?10:36
yao_ziyuanor the BattleTech series10:37
ActionParsnipyao_ziyuan, does it not run via wine?10:37
yao_ziyuan...10:38
yao_ziyuanActionParsnip: i have played through it10:38
yao_ziyuanActionParsnip: i want something new10:38
ActionParsnipoic10:38
ActionParsnipMicrosoft mechwarrior10:38
yao_ziyuani wish there be a game emulating the Future Combat Systems10:38
yao_ziyuanor the UAVs10:38
yao_ziyuanor Age of Empires10:39
ActionParsnipI'm not much of a gamer, sorry10:39
yao_ziyuanFreeCiv, right?10:39
ActionParsnipyao_ziyuan, get settlers :D10:39
ActionParsnipyao_ziyuan, freeciv is cool10:39
jussi01!games10:39
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php10:39
jussi01yao_ziyuan: I like tremulous  a lot10:39
jussi01!info tremulous | yao_ziyuan10:39
ubotuyao_ziyuan: tremulous (source: tremulous): Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB10:39
yao_ziyuanok10:40
ubuntuhey10:40
yao_ziyuani'll give it a try10:40
jpatrick!hi | ubuntu10:40
ubotuubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:40
ubuntu:D10:40
ubuntutnx10:41
ubuntui'm having a problem wen installing kubuntu10:41
ActionParsnipubuntu, wassup?10:41
ubuntumy pc gets freezed wen it tries to load the VGAs10:41
ubuntuMy pc has an onboard VGA and an AGP VGA card10:42
ActionParsnipubuntu, do you get the live desktop10:42
ubuntuno10:42
jpatrickubuntu: have you tried the "Safe graphics mode"?10:42
ubuntuyeah i tries safe graphics....but didn'yt work10:42
ubuntuit just shows a kernel panic error10:42
ubuntuwhy is that?10:43
ubuntubut my knoppix 3.4 worked on my pc really well10:43
ubuntui think it must be a prob. with the kernel or initrd10:44
jpatrickubuntu: did you check the md5sum?10:44
ubuntuyes10:44
ubuntubtw10:45
ubuntui removed my AGP VGA and then started my PC10:45
ubuntuit works fine10:45
jpatrickhmm, curious10:45
jussi01that is weird10:45
ubuntuHere goes my PC specs:10:46
ubuntuCPU: Intel Core  2 Duo 2.010:46
ActionParsnipubuntu, try installing and updating without agp then install it after, change your bios to use the onboard as primary display10:46
ActionParsnipintel core duo with an AGP slot10:47
ActionParsnip!!!10:47
ubuntuwill it affct the config of Kubuntu10:47
ubuntu???10:47
ubuntumy pc has a 2GB of RAM10:48
jussi01ubuntu: you sure it isnt a pcie???10:48
ubuntunope10:48
ubuntumotherbrd is asrock10:48
ubuntuit's AGP 8x10:48
ActionParsnipasrock...explains it all10:49
ubuntuexcuse me..i didn't get it??10:49
ActionParsnipasrock make weird boards like core2 duo socket with agp10:50
ubuntuyeah10:50
ActionParsnipor 939 / 754 socket boards but you can use one or the other10:50
ubuntubut knoppix is running on PC and it takes my primary VGA as the AGP card...(i think it's a prob with the kernel])10:51
ActionParsnipubuntu, try turning some stuff off in your bios10:52
ubuntui tried my best on configuring the bios10:53
ActionParsnipubuntu, did you disable everything you could?10:55
ubuntuyeah10:55
ubuntu100% sure abt wat i didi10:55
ActionParsnipubuntu, how far can you boot on the kubuntu cd?10:57
ubuntuwhen i click on "Start or install Kubuntu", it shows a loading screen with a progress bar which is running to and fro10:58
ubuntuthen10:58
ubuntuthe10:58
ubuntuprogress bar fills about 50%10:58
ubuntuthen it get's stucked10:58
ubuntusorry for my english10:59
ActionParsnipubuntu, we get you10:59
ActionParsnipubuntu, hmm10:59
ubuntui tried running the verbose even10:59
ubuntuit happens wen it tries to load the drivers for the AGP card,...then it shows a paragraph of alphanumeric characters11:00
ubuntuthen "kernel panic"11:00
ActionParsnipubuntu, got latest bios?11:00
ubuntuyep11:01
ubuntui updated it recently11:01
ActionParsnipubuntu, ok i found something that may help11:02
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21379311:02
ActionParsnipubuntu, basically it says kill the process to do with what is being installed11:02
ActionParsnipubuntu, it might make the install continue11:03
p-fdell 640m => incredibly annoying high pitched noise when the cpu is idle. I have tried adding apm=idle-threshold=100 and idle=halt to my kernel parameters but to no avail. Has anyone encountered/solved this problem?11:03
ubuntuok...checking11:03
ActionParsnipp-f, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168178.html11:04
ActionParsnipp-f, might give some clues11:05
ActionParsnipp-f, apparently its singing capacitors which sounds cool11:05
ActionParsnipp-f, let us know if you score !11:07
p-fActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give them a try11:07
ubuntuHey ActionParsnip, the thread link u sent me is dealt wen installing ubuntu..right? my case is not that.M11:07
p-fand buy something other than a dell next time :)11:07
cannonhey all11:08
ActionParsnipp-f, oh definately11:08
cannonis there a utility that can extract lots of folders at once?11:08
* ActionParsnip hits his Lat D42011:08
cannonlike extract now in windows?11:08
ActionParsnipcannon, you could use cli11:08
cannonthanks, i'll check it out :)11:08
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ActionParsniptar -zxvfR <somefile>11:09
ActionParsnipcannon, you'll have to see if tar allows -R11:09
ubuntuHey action, the problem still stands unsolved11:09
cannoni was hoping for a gui app :P11:10
ubuntuthe thread link u sent me is not related to me11:10
ubuntuit is dealt wen installing ubuntu...(i mean the thrd)...but my pc doesn't even boot11:11
ubuntuactually doesn't start the kde or xserver11:11
ActionParsnipubuntu, if you drop to CLI try killing the process related to installing the agp stuff and it might continue. This seems to be the hung process. killing it willallow the next process to start11:11
ubuntuxfce or watever11:11
ActionParsnipubuntu, if you can get to the gui to click installthen it applies to you11:12
ubuntui cannot get the gui even11:12
ActionParsnipcannon, the only way I know would be to use CLI as the gui is more for standard tasks11:12
ActionParsnipcannon, you could even use find :)11:12
ubuntuare there any arguements to be passed wen starting kubuntu?11:13
cannonhmmm, cli is an app ... i've looked in the package manager11:13
cannondidn;t see it11:13
ActionParsnipcannon, find /home/cannon/folder/with/stuff/in -name *.gz | exec tar -zxvf {} /;11:13
jussi01!cli | cannon11:13
ubotucannon: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal11:13
ActionParsnipjussi01, would that work ^11:13
ActionParsnipjussi01, ?11:13
jussi01ActionParsnip: hrmmm, _should_...11:14
jussi01didnt look too close :)11:14
ActionParsnipcannon, if you do it a lot you could even put it in a bash script but replace the location with a "." without the quotes11:16
cannonit's for unrar'ing tv eps ... they often come in their own directory which is a pain11:17
cannonlike 24 directories a season! lol11:17
ActionParsnipcannon, yeah i'd use the find command11:17
ubuntui hate kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:18
ActionParsnipcannon, obv the command is unrar {} (or whatever a good option set is)11:18
cannonk, i'll look into it11:18
cannoni love kubuntu! :D11:18
noisekillernow what... winrar? ah..  you already talkin about it?11:19
cannonyeah11:20
noisekillercannon: how did you do? :)11:20
ActionParsnipcannon, me too :)11:20
cannonhttp://www.softspecialist.com/ExtractNow-245/ExtractNow.htm11:21
cannoni found this11:21
cannonextract now works on linux too :P11:21
ActionParsnipcannon, although I fear its popularity will bring rise to virus'11:21
cannonawesome app :P11:21
ActionParsnipcannon, smooth11:21
cannonyup11:21
cannonam too new to terminal to rely on it all the time :P11:21
ActionParsnipcannon, its what i use most except running web browsers/text editors etc11:22
ActionParsnipcannon, try sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade11:22
ActionParsnipcannon, ;)11:23
cannonhmmm11:24
cannonlooks like it wasn;t linux afterall ... damn it! lol11:24
cannonhow will an upgrade help me ActionParsnip?11:25
cannonand I think I am already upgraded :P11:25
ActionParsnipcannon, it cleans your cache, gets the latest updates and installany necessary. no need for synaptic / adept11:25
cannoni don;t mind synaptic11:25
cannoni find it handy to search for packages11:25
cannonthat I don't know the exact name of11:25
ActionParsnipcannon, true enough. I just google for my needs and get a name11:26
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cannonheh11:27
cannongo find me a gui then :P11:28
p-fActionParsnip: echo "2" > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate almost gets rid of the idle noise. The problems are: i) it's not actually gone, it's just much higher pitched ii) waste of battery11:28
Odd=p11:29
ActionParsnipcannon, gui for what?11:29
cannonextracting multiple directories of rar files11:29
ActionParsnipcannon, I have no idea. I cant find much with google. Have a look see what you can find11:29
ActionParsnipcannon, I'd suggest CLI as it will give you what you need. Its not htat hard either11:30
Liminalhi11:31
cannonis there a tut somewhere for it ActionParsnip?11:31
LiminalI need the help from someone who can speak swedish11:31
jussi01Ok, !se11:31
jussi01!se11:31
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se11:31
Liminaljusii01 can you help me?11:31
ActionParsnipcannon, i'd check out find11:31
cannon!find11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:32
ActionParsnipcannon, also check out exec with it11:32
cannonhmmm, maybe I could use wine!11:32
cannonand still use some ms apps11:32
ActionParsnipcannon, could work :)11:32
jussi01Liminal: no, join #kubuntu-se :)11:32
Liminalits okay jussi0111:34
Liminalim sorted now11:34
Liminalthank god11:34
jussi01Liminal: great:)11:34
Liminalisnt it?>11:35
Liminal:)11:35
foka_Hi!  Does anyone know what command KDE 3 uses to turn off the computer in Kubuntu Feisty?  Thanks!  :-)11:36
nosrednaekim"shutdown -r now"11:36
jpatrick-h I think11:37
nosrednaekimor maybe just shutdown now.....-r probabl reboots11:37
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noisekillerliminal: /j kubuntu-se ?11:37
foka_My computer hangs when I tries to use KDE 3 to shutdown my computer.  However, when I do a "shutdown -h now" in Konsole, it powers off successfully.11:37
ActionParsnipfoka_, turn off = sudo shutdown -h now11:37
Jarlaxlehi all11:38
nosrednaekimhey J11:38
ActionParsnipfoka_, got all the latest updates?11:38
nosrednaekimhey Jarlaxle11:38
ActionParsniphi Jarlaxle11:38
ActionParsnip!hi | Jarlaxle11:38
ubotuJarlaxle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:38
nosrednaekimwow...i'm good this morning,only took me two trys to hit the tab button ;)11:38
foka_ActionParsnip, Hmm.... good idea!  Let me try that too.  :-)11:38
foka_ActionParsnip, Thanks!11:39
ActionParsnipfoka_, np11:39
Liminalnow im boned again.11:40
cannonboned?11:41
ActionParsnipyeah i was confused too11:41
ActionParsnip!boned11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boned - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:41
cannonlol11:41
jpatrick!lolops11:41
ubotuTeh lolops r in ur chanelz, wotchin u mizbehav11:41
cannonheh11:41
nosrednaekimhah11:42
cannonActionParsnip: i need your help :P11:52
cannoncan ya show me the terminal way of extracting everything pls?11:52
cannonit's taking forever with ark11:52
cannon!extract11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about extract - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:53
cannon!rar11:54
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free11:54
Jarlaxle!info 7-zip11:56
ubotuPackage 7-zip does not exist in gutsy11:56
Liminal7zip is a free program for accessing them anyway11:56
shadowhywindanyone have any ideas on why my caps/num/scroll lock led's wont work anymore?12:13
cannon!wine12:14
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.12:14
cannon!appdb12:14
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org12:14
Jarlaxle!info codeblocks12:15
ubotuPackage codeblocks does not exist in gutsy12:15
cannonhmmm?12:20
Liminalso does anyone mind if i ask probably the most annoying question any linux user can be asked?12:29
kgoetzyes, i mind12:29
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Liminalfair enough12:30
Liminalim downloading simply mephis at the moment12:31
LiminalI tried kubuntu but the live cd didnt seem to be liked by any of my boxes12:32
neville_What do you mean didn't like them?12:34
Liminaldidnt boot12:36
neville_Tried safe video?12:36
neville_Or was it something more severe?12:36
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Liminalsafe video?12:39
neville_It should be the second option in the list12:43
ru\gug12:49
ru\GuS12:49
jpatrick!hi | ru\12:49
uboturu\: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:49
ru\kill toms river computers12:49
ru\shutdown12:49
jpatrickhmm?12:49
Liminalhi12:51
Liminalwhere was the swedish channel again?12:51
ActionParsnip!se | LimCore12:51
ubotuLimCore: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se12:51
ActionParsnip!se | Liminal12:51
ubotuLiminal: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se12:51
Liminalcheers12:52
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baudthiefAnyone know of a simple web proxy I can install on a shell account I have?13:07
baudthiefneed to order something off a site that uses coolcart.net, for some reason I cant access coolcart from Sydney, Australia "(13:08
neville_baudthief Coolcart.net Shopping Cart Service?13:13
neville_I'm in Sydney, Australia, and I was just able to get to it fine13:13
baudthiefneville_: you on optusnet cable?13:15
baudthiefyou're unwired!13:15
neville_No, Unwired13:15
neville_D: D: D:13:15
baudthiefhaha, I dunno man it's weird, it doesnt even resolve for me, been down for the past week13:15
baudthiefworks fine through vodafone GPRS etc13:15
neville_Optus must be slowly, but surely, turning into an AOL :P13:16
baudthiefagreed lol13:16
baudthieftrying out privoxy now13:17
cannonhi all13:17
neville_hi cannon13:17
cannonhows you?13:17
neville_Good thanks, how are you?13:18
cannonnot too shabby13:19
cannonam still trying to find out how to customize the theme of my desktop and windows though13:19
neville_Have you had a look in Kcontrol?13:19
cannonkcontrol?13:20
neville_Press Alt+F213:20
neville_Then type in kcontrol13:20
neville_And press enter13:20
cannoncool13:20
cannonima have a look now :)13:20
cannonwhere can I get new themes for that app?13:22
neville_http://www.kde-look.org/13:22
flipstar!themes | look here :)13:23
ubotulook here :): Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:23
cannonwhich part of it though? :P13:23
neville_Well, pick the part that corresponds to which part you want to change in Kcontrol :P13:23
tzdhi everyone. i'm not sure what i've changed but recently my browser refuses to fully load some websites. It loads the title for the web page and then it stops. I have to "manually" fully load it by clicking the load button 3 times. Anyone please?13:24
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* genii puts on a new pot of coffee13:39
Daisuke_Idomorning genii13:42
Daisuke_Idoperhaps you have some idea why on earth the ubuntu devs thought it would be a good idea to make wubi officially supported13:43
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geniiDaisuke_Ido: Morning :) As to the question, not a clue13:44
geniiDaisuke_Ido: That fellow in #ubuntu the one with the wubi issue?13:49
Daisuke_Idonah, we were talking about it in there a little while ago13:50
geniiAh, OK13:50
Daisuke_Idoand how there's no incentive to switch away from windows, since the wubi-installed OS is entirely dependent upon windows for its very existence.13:51
geniiDaisuke_Ido: I look at it like "try before you buy" idea, not to run it always like that but test it out, etc13:52
syntethhey, anyone knows why i dont have sound on my kubuntu 7.10?13:52
trprDaisuke: is it dependent on windows? from what i read here, it sounds like its just an installer. a way to quickly get windows users into linux13:52
Daisuke_Idotrpr, that creates the linux install as a disk image file on the windows partition13:53
Daisuke_Idowithout windows, that disk image no longer exists13:53
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trprDaisuke_Ido: oh. i see. so its really no different than lin4win an all the older windows based installers13:53
Daisuke_Idoi see genii's point though, a little more robust than a livecd as you can have persistent settings, at least13:53
Daisuke_Idotrpr, everyone mentions lin4win, i just think of BeOS when i think of that type of installer :D13:54
trpri don't think its such a bad situation. so its a temporary setup. hopefully after users get accustomed to being in linux they will reinstall something else13:55
syntethwhat do i have to install do get sound working on computer13:55
Daisuke_Ido!sound | synteth13:55
ubotusynteth: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:55
Daisuke_Idotrpr, i see mostly a downside, unless there's a way to evolve(?) that embedded disk image into a real install.  few people want to try out an OS and get it set up the way they like, just to have to redo it all when they decide to commit to it13:56
Daisuke_Idoyeah, the upside is the try before you buy thing13:57
geniiSince the installt here is a lop mounted image, you could conceivably get it how you like then just mount and cp it over from a livec13:57
genii*livecd13:57
geniiand other typos...13:58
Jucato"Can I move my virtual disk file to a dedicated partition? You can use LVPM to transfer your install. A guide and support forum for LVPM is available here."13:58
trprexactly what i was thinking. just move the image.. or delete windows and preserve the fs. not the ideal solution of course13:58
Daisuke_Idoand that's why i said unless... guess i should have read, huh? :)13:58
* Jucato only read the FAQ now13:59
Jucatohttp://wubi-installer.org/faq.php13:59
* Jucato never even dared to take a peek at Wubi... thought it sort of virtualized *buntu... guess not13:59
Daisuke_Idoi still call bad idea if only because of the support nightmare13:59
Jucatothat depends I guess. as far as the the Ubuntu system is concerned, it thinks/behaves like it's on a real partition (according to the docs)14:00
Jucatooh well. not my personal concern :P14:01
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linuxguymarshallHow do I access my restricted drivers in KDE?14:04
tzdhi everyone. i'm not sure what i've changed but recently my browser refuses to fully load some websites. It loads the title for the web page and then it stops. I have to "manually" fully load it by clicking the load button 3 times. Anyone please?14:05
linuxguymarshallWhat website are you having problems with?14:05
Dorwin6hi guys, can anyone show me how to install vmware or virtual box on my machine so that I can install Windows XP in them?14:06
Jucato!virtualbox14:06
ubotuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox14:06
tzdlinuxguymarshall: a few completely different ones... they usually work after a while. I think it has to do with some settings in "services" that i've changed recently14:06
flipstarDorwin6: http://www.easyvmx.com/14:06
Jucato!vmware | Dorwin614:06
ubotuDorwin6: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers14:06
linuxguymarshallDorwin6, go to your K Menu, select add/remove and select VMWare it should be there14:06
Jucato(see also the virtuablbox wiki page)14:07
linuxguymarshalltzd:What browser are you using and what services?14:08
baudthiefis there any way to make linux look in ~/sbin as well as /sbin ?14:08
Dorwin6thank you guys  I will have a look at all of them14:08
baudthiefsorry wrong window lol14:08
linuxguymarshallHow to I get to my restricted drivers when it is not appearing on my taskbar?14:09
Jarlaxle!windows14:09
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents14:09
Jarlaxleo.O14:09
flipstarlinuxguymarshall: just type restricted-manager14:09
linuxguymarshallK14:10
matt1728anyone know how to burn dvd with linux14:10
flipstaruse k3b for e.g14:10
Jucatolinuxguymarshall: K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager?14:10
matt1728you can rip with K3B?14:10
linuxguymarshalljucato:I don't have an advance tab14:10
geniilinuxguymarshall: As flipstar suggests, alt-f2   then: restricted-manager14:10
BluesKajHowdy all :)14:11
Jucatolinuxguymarshall: hm? are you sure you're in System Settings? (and on Gutsy)14:11
flipstarhi BluesKaj14:11
tzdlinuxguymarshall: im using Firefox, v.2.x. I've changed a few startup services to speed up my computer. I'm not quite sure about which services I've changed though :/ Is there a setting for "default" service values ? For instance, I've got "networking" and "avahi-daemon" set to stopped... that's the 2 i can think of that could do something like this?14:11
BluesKajhi flipstar14:11
linuxguymarshallJucanto: I did the  restricted-manager command and I recived an error14:12
flipstarlinuxguymarshall: what kind of error ?14:13
linuxguymarshalltzd: Try enabling everything and see if that helps14:13
linuxguymarshalltzd:Then use process of elimination to fix it14:13
tzdlinuxguymarshall: will do. Do i need to reboot to activate the services?14:13
flipstartzd: if konqueror works well just try reinstall ff14:14
tzdflipstar: i'll try that as well. Thanks!14:14
linuxguymarshalltzd:Yeah, try out a different browser14:14
tzdlinuxguymarshall: cool, thanks! :)14:14
linuxguymarshallWhen I upgrade to KDE 4 should I install the "kde4" package or the "kde4-core" package?14:18
Jucatolinuxguymarshall: instructions are over at #kubuntu-kde414:19
tzdflipstar , linuxguymarshall: just tried with konqueror and it works great. tried with the website (http://packages.ubuntu.com/). When trying in FF it loads the title and stops. It's like it stops loading when there's a small loading time... does that make any sense?14:19
linuxguymarshalljucato:thanks14:19
flipstartzd: did you changed some ff settings in about:config ?14:20
AShrEdhow can I change my current resolution by editing a file?14:21
flipstarchange xorg.conf in /etc/X1114:22
AShrEdalready done14:22
flipstaroh wait..14:22
flipstarit doesnt change your current res14:22
BluesKajgot my pyTivo server working on this pc, but it recognizes mpg only..I have an ISO file movie on the HDD but my CLI chops are lacking in the mount area ...done some searching, but none of the suggestions are working for me . The ISO file is in my /home/user/ folder , the command seems to be,' mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/cdrom ' . I tried changing cdrom to dev/hda2 or just hda2 , but no dice :(14:22
AShrEdyes14:22
AShrEdit doesn0t14:22
AShrEd*doesn't14:22
AShrEdI edited xorg to support a new resolution14:23
flipstaryou need to restart X for that..or use an application14:23
AShrEdI can't access kubuntu14:23
AShrEdthat's why I must edit a file14:23
tzdflipstar: no i haven't. Think I've found it though... I recently installed adblock and tried disabling it.. it seems like it works now. I'll be back if problem persists ;) Thanks for your help!14:23
AShrEdlast time I changed my resolution, restarted X and then blank screen14:24
AShrEdif I delete new resolution's line on xorg will the system boot?14:24
flipstarBluesKaj: you might have to use sudo before..mount -o loop <iso> <mountpoint> is correct for standart iso14:25
linuxguymarshallWhat is the proper way to install NVIDIA Drivers on Kubuntu?14:26
flipstar!nvidia14:26
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:27
linuxguymarshallubotu:Thank you14:27
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)14:27
syntethi've read the website that could help me about my sound problem, i've done the things, but still's the same. do you know what to do?14:28
flipstarthe sound test doesnt work ?14:29
syntethwork14:30
syntethbut nothing more14:30
flipstarso the application you use might try the wrong device14:30
syntethok14:31
syntethnow i have the sound14:31
syntethbut14:31
syntethit's really low14:31
jpatricksynteth: checked kmix?14:32
syntethok14:33
syntethdone14:33
syntethxD14:33
syntethi didnt know it's "front"14:34
synteththank you14:35
cannonis there a way to show widgets like in vista sidebar?14:35
cannonhey synteth14:35
cannon!sidebar14:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sidebar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:35
cannon!widgets14:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:36
tekstacyHow do14:49
tekstacygrrr14:49
jpatricktekstacy: say: "grrr"14:49
neville_Grrr - -14:50
tekstacyHow do I give my users access to read and write to a folder, but not delete existing files.14:50
* tekstacy is having a cixelsid tryping day....14:51
jpatricktekstacy: make a common group for them and: chown you:commonGroup and chmod 775 folder14:51
tekstacyok. cool. I thought  it involved chmod, but what does the 775 mean?14:52
jpatricktekstacy: read, write for users and groups14:52
josephtekstacy: it's the octal representation of what jpatrick said14:52
jpatrickeveryone else can just view14:53
tekstacyWill they be able to delete?  It's ok for them to edit, but giving them delete power scares me14:54
jpatricktekstacy: yeah...14:54
ActionParsniphey all14:57
cannonhi14:58
tekstacyActionParsnip, hey14:58
tekstacygrrr, back to the boring drudgery of work.   Thanks for the help guys.15:00
tekstacypart15:00
tekstacydamn I really suck today15:00
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Regitalhow many OS´s can i install on my comp?15:04
HirvinenMany.15:04
nosrednaekimRegital: alot!15:05
nosrednaekimprobably almost unlimited15:05
Regitalkk... just making sure15:05
SQLDarklyunder kcontrol I am setting up Samba. However, everytime I create a new Samba user from the Unix users on the right hand side of the config screen. After I add one and click ok it never adds it15:08
acbchoiexit15:11
vikku_]#ubuntu15:19
vikku_#ubuntu15:20
marjan_dudes i have bittorrent but i cant found it do i need bittornado to d/l???15:22
SQLDarklyAny torrent file requires a torrent downloader yes15:23
marjan_k15:23
marjan_how do i unset away on konverstation15:26
jpatrickmarjan_: it's in the first menu..15:26
marjan_ha15:26
marjan_?15:26
marjan_i cant found it15:27
genii/back15:29
marjan_10x15:29
marjan_you are genii15:29
marjan_:)15:29
geniimarjan_: Sometimes simpler to type in than look for menus15:30
marjan_lol15:30
marjan_indeed15:30
marjan_thank u very a lot15:30
flipstarwhere can i get libalsa-dev from ?15:31
ritalin-schoolhai15:34
ritalin-schoolim looking for a kde 4 based easy to use and setup OS15:34
ritalin-schoolwould you say kubuntu fits that? :D15:34
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aaroncampbellWell, it seems that I messed up my user account.  I wanted to add a group to it (avg), but ran this command: sudo usermod -G avg aaroncampbell15:37
aaroncampbellIt seems that rather than add a new group, it removed all my old ones and replaced them with avg. Now I don't have sudo permissions.15:37
aaroncampbellIs there any way to find out what groups I was part of before?  Or is there a way to see what groups I started as a part of?15:37
aaroncampbellI honestly don't know how I'm going to get sudo access back, but I need to15:37
ritalin-schoolalso does kde 4 come with kubuntu?15:37
hydrogen!kde415:38
ubotuKDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:38
ritalin-schooldanke15:38
flipstaraaroncampbell: you need to add yourself in the sudoers file15:39
cannonhi, how is everybody?15:40
cannonhey flipstar15:40
flipstarhi cannon15:40
aaroncampbellflipstar: where is that?  And how?15:41
flipstarin /etc it is..try man sudoers15:41
cannonis there anything you don't know flipstar? :P15:42
flipstarsure15:42
cannon;)15:42
cannonquick question for ya flipstar15:44
cannonnot sure if it's my kde desktop or compiz15:44
cannonbut when I click on another window it doesn't put it to front15:44
cannononly if I click the window handle15:44
ritalin-schoolwhat is the default file system in kubuntu?15:44
de4dsnakehello, ive configured a dark colour scheme on my kde, but when i hover the mouse coursor over some buttons of non-kde apps, the yellow help text box appears with white font (unreadable). How can i change that font colour or text box colour?15:44
cannonext3 i think15:44
ritalin-schoolwhat file system do you guys use?15:45
cannoni use ext315:45
cannonbut it's not windows compatible15:45
ritalin-schoolis it the best for desktop usuage?15:45
de4dsnakeit is, i can read ext3 on windows15:45
ritalin-schoolno window here15:45
de4dsnakeusing an extra driver15:45
cannonah, ok15:45
ritalin-schoolthats what im trying to get rid of15:45
aaroncampbellflipstar: how can I modify that file if I don't have sudo access?15:46
aaroncampbellI can't seem to su root ...15:46
cannonwhy not just open a root shell?15:48
geniicannon: Because it will ask for user (sudo rights) passwd15:49
kristjan_!ipv615:49
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv415:49
ritalin-schoolim gonna go with XFS15:49
cannonand ya don't have the password?15:49
hydrogenaaroncampbell: you are pretty much out of luck15:49
hydrogenaaroncampbell: you need to boot off a livecd15:49
hydrogenchroot in15:49
hydrogenand fix it15:49
hydrogenor maybe boot into single user runlevel15:50
hydrogencan't recall if that requires the password or not15:50
aaroncampbellhydrogen: I can probably do it with a live CD ...the real question is...why can't I log in as root?  It's almost like it doesn't exist, or like it set a bogus password on it15:50
geniiaaroncampbell: I would recommend to boot to recovery, add yourself back in to normal groups including adm by editing /etc/group15:50
hydrogenaaroncampbell: ubuntu does not set a root passwored15:50
geniiaaroncampbell: root login is disabled by default15:50
hydrogenbecause they feel its more secure15:51
hydrogeneven though, as you can see, it causes its own troubles15:51
aaroncampbellwell, it might be...until you are working too late and you type a command wrong ;(15:51
ritalin-schoolanyway to issue kubuntu specific commands when making file systems?15:51
aaroncampbellgenii: What are the "normal" groups?15:51
hydrogenIn the future aaroncampbell, gpasswd -a user group is a bit more friendly15:51
geniiaaroncampbell: For future reference, use the usermod command with -a when adding into a group.eg: sudo usermod -G -a newgroup myname15:51
geniiaaroncampbell: Wait a minute I'll pastebin the content of mine for reference15:52
aaroncampbellgenii: I know...I should have, and it was my own fault.15:52
hydrogenhydrogen@Yes:~/kde/src/amarok/src$ groups15:52
hydrogenhydrogen adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin vboxusers15:52
aaroncampbellthanks a ton genii15:52
hydrogenyou may not need all of those15:52
flipstaraaroncampbell: recovery mode would probably work15:53
geniiaaroncampbell: my sudo user is just called "user", here is a dump of /etc/group with a grep for user http://pastebin.ca/94625115:54
cannonhow do I make windows come to the front by not having to click it's handle?15:54
flipstarcannon: theres a plugin for that in ccsm15:54
cannonwhich one?15:54
flipstareasy visibility15:54
cannoni don't see it15:55
flipstarfilter for visibility15:55
flipstarerr visible15:55
cannononly one showing for that is opacify15:56
flipstarthis makes windows visible by hover mouse over them..15:56
warren_hi15:56
aaroncampbellThanks guys.  I have used live CDs before, but what is "recovery mode"  is it a specific option on the live CD?  Or is it something I can do without the CD?15:57
flipstaraaroncampbell: no,its a option in grub15:57
flipstaryes, you can this without the cd15:57
aaroncampbellOk, thanks a ton flipstar and genii, and wish me luck ;)15:58
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TannHow would I go about setting up my default sound card?16:13
Tanner, setting a default sound card16:14
cannonack, K3b won't burn my files16:16
cannoni keep getting an error16:16
geniiTann: What is the result of command: lspci | grep Audio                <- note uppercase A in Audio16:17
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aaroncampbellThanks genii and flipstar ...I added myself back to the groups I needed via recovery mode and everything seems to be working great again16:21
geniiTann: If you have only one card there should be only one result of this command. If you have multiple results (more than 1 sound device) you can set the default one by: sudo asoundconf set-default-card <put name here>16:21
geniiaaroncampbell: Good :)16:22
Tanngenii: what part of the result is the name? http://pastebin.com/d2694e8b616:25
geniiTann: To find the name to use, use: asoundconf list16:28
tekstacyWhere can I find the log of who has logged in to my box16:28
geniitekstacy: in /var/log/auth.log   and it's archives16:29
tekstacyOr find out who is currently logged on for that matter?16:29
tekstacygenii, thanks16:29
geniitekstacy: w to see show's currently on16:29
tekstacyawsome.16:31
geniitekstacy: np16:31
amerigo##windows16:31
geniitekstacy: For samba users, use  smbstatus16:31
mosabHow can I activate Compiz on my KDE desktop? it's running on the Gnome session so hardware should be fine16:32
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matt1728does anyone know the commands to install java?16:34
mosabmatt1728: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre16:34
tekstacygenii, is there something better then Kate to view the logs?16:34
matt1728thanks16:34
mosabmatt1728: you might wanna install sun-java6-plugin too16:35
matt1728kk any other plugins?16:35
mosabmatt1728: nah, that's the plugin for your browser16:35
geniitekstacy: Usually I'm at command-line so using:  more /var/log/auth.log             or less . Sometimes just to see end of log using: tail /var/log/auth.log16:36
flipstarmosab: you might use taif -f /var/log/auth.log for further monitoring of logins16:37
mosabflipstar: I think you are talking to someone else16:38
flipstaroh..sry16:38
mosabflipstar: no problem16:38
mosabflipstar: could you tell me how to enable compiz in kubuntu though?16:38
tekstacygenii, awsome. You answered a few more questions I didn't even know I had till I looked in that folder16:38
tekstacy:)16:39
flipstarmosab: sure..if it is installed just type compiz --replace &&emerald --replace16:39
flipstarwhere emerald is the window decorator16:39
mosabflipstar: sweet:D had to install emerald for the decoration to work16:41
mosabnow where do i configure compiz?16:41
flipstarin ccsm ..like it is on gnome16:42
mosabflipstar: found it. I know i am asking quite a bit, but how do i increase the cube sides here? in Gnome I just had to increase the virtual desktops16:44
tekstacyoff to work....  Thanks guys.16:44
cannon!compiz | tekstacy16:44
ubotutekstacy: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion16:44
flipstarsame here..in ccsm>general>desktop size16:44
cannongood read, also shows to how make it load at startup16:44
cannonso as not to need to have your terminal running16:45
cannon... to keep it open16:45
flipstarreally..damn i had to write my own script for that once..16:45
mosabflipstar: oh that's different:) in gnome I used to do it from the desktop switcher applet16:45
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flipstarcompiz isn integrated in kde ..16:46
tekstacyCompiz looks cool, but I didn't see it helping me get anything acomplished faster16:46
mosabflipstar: yeah but KDE4 already has a nice deal of compiz stuff integrated, so I'm looking forward to 4.116:46
mosabtekstacy: neither did it help me, but it has convinced a dozen people to install Linux already. I call that a gain16:47
flipstarthe vista vs ubuntu vids on youtube are funny :)16:47
mosabflipstar: they forget to mention that one of my "converts" is running his compiz on 256MB ram:) I want to see vista doing *that*16:48
tekstacyHey, I agree.  People switched to Vista because Aero looks cool, and aero really sucks, sucks hard16:48
pure_x01hello..   I have a Nokia n800 linux PDA and a Nokia E51 that i use togeather to get HSDPA surfing speeds to the PDA. It works perfect over bluetooth and i want to do the same with my Dell X1 ..  I have used linux for 10 years but i have never hooked up a phone over bluetooth. I have read something about using DUN but it seems a little bit old..  And i am not sure if PAN is eanbled on the E51 (atleast not documented)16:49
mosabtekstacy: nah come on:D the annoying "cancel or allow" faded, and the progress bar had a light glow which nobody would notice... didn't suck that bad16:49
flipstarpure_x01: kubuntu supports bluetooth if this is you question16:50
pure_x01flipstar: yes but how do i do use my phone as a proxy/modem so that i can do some mobile surfing16:50
tekstacy:)    Vista sucks, think:  "Two Computers, One Cup"16:51
mosabtekstacy: urgh, don't remind me!16:51
tekstacy:)16:52
mosabtekstacy: do you know where I can find that vid though? I wanna how a couple of friends react16:52
tekstacyDoesn't Vista have a problem with Samba?   Or did they fix that?16:52
flipstarpure_x01: did you tried setting the bluetooth device in knetworkmanager ?16:53
geniitekstacy: It's NTLM v2 on Vista by default but can be set to old auth way16:53
tekstacymosab,  google, click video, should be near the top16:53
tekstacygenii, thanks.16:54
geniiHow to set Vista to use NTLM v1 by default: http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/codemonkeybusiness/viewblogpost.htm?p=33927074616:55
pure_x01flipstar: i did not know that it was possible .. will look in to that thanx16:55
tekstacygenii, looks simple enough.     Will I have any other headaches if I let a Vista box on my all-kubuntu lan?16:57
tekstacycrap,   er,  "mostly" kubuntu,   forgot grandma's silly xp box16:58
tekstacygrrr, back to work.  Thanks for the help guys.17:02
tekstacy /p17:02
tekstacy:(17:02
alexander_que es esto17:02
alexander_no entiendo soy nuevo en kubuntu17:03
lufthanzaany other suggestions for killing a runaway process?17:04
Daisuke-Laptop!es | alexander_17:04
ubotualexander_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:04
vbialouxcomment va votre bash ?17:06
hydrogen!fr | vbialoux17:06
ubotuvbialoux: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:06
vbialouxhey how do you do17:07
Tanndoes anyone know how to change xine's default sound device17:07
Tannhello17:08
vbialouxstop earing music !17:08
dvoidnice memory allocation in gdebi-kde ;)17:10
dvoidallocated like 1gb ram to install a 20mb deb package \o/17:10
Tanndoes anyone know how to change xine's default sound device17:17
cannonlol dvoid17:17
* Daisuke-Laptop slaps enlightenment with a brick17:18
Daisuke-Laptopbroken packages for the win!17:18
cannonftl more like it! lol17:18
Daisuke-Laptopfixed17:19
Daisuke-Laptopturned out there was a file that was in two different packages17:19
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benpicco_hi, can I get konqueror to use /media/$mountpoint/ instead of media:/sdc1/?17:23
dvoidcannon, its a known problem to, strange noone has fixed it17:24
dvoidhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/15394317:24
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DexterFhi17:30
DexterFhow come I have to firefox twice each time? first time I get startup notification, but the program wont come up.17:31
MilitantPotatoDexterF: any chance it's loading?17:32
DexterFMilitantPotato: not that long. I checked back on ps, too17:33
DexterFsimply gone17:33
MilitantPotatoDexterF: try running it from konsole, see if it loads the first time17:33
dvoidDexterF, i have noticed the same thing, are u using "run" or something?  it usualy works first time if i use the "firefox icon ";)17:33
DexterFdvoid: I actually do run it from "run"17:33
DexterFuse it so seldom I didn't bother putting it in the taskbar17:34
MilitantPotatoah, I've had that happen too17:34
MilitantPotatoI wound up just binding it to a F key17:34
AQ_LIVEhi does anyone know how to change the SU rights?17:40
trappistAQ_LIVE: you mean sudo rights, right?17:41
AQ_LIVEyes17:41
AQ_LIVE:)17:41
trappistAQ_LIVE: sudo visudo17:41
trappistman sudoers for syntax17:41
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AQ_LIVEhow do I change the grub menu default boot? and how do I edit the software source list?17:47
trappistAQ_LIVE: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/apt/sources.list respectively17:48
AQ_LIVEit says no write permissions17:50
AQ_LIVEhow do I change that17:50
trappistAQ_LIVE: both have to be edited as root, so use sudo17:50
AQ_LIVEError: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/x-troff-man"17:52
trappistAQ_LIVE: what editor are you using, and which file are you trying to edit.17:52
ChamucoHi I installed dapper and one of my old file drives is a fat32 it is mounted but I am unable to write only read and can't change properties even as root using gksudo nautilus, how can I change the properties17:52
Chamucois it in fstab and if so what do I write?17:53
AQ_LIVEI'm using terminal and I'm trying to edit the boot list17:53
romunovi'm having problems with installing kubuntu (and ubuntu) on a machine. the logo screen comes up and that's about as far as i can get. has anyone every experienced something similar?17:53
trappistAQ_LIVE: using what editor...17:53
nosrednaekimromunov: did you try booting safe graphics mode?17:53
AQ_LIVEso I need vi to edit it?17:53
trappistAQ_LIVE: no, but that's what I'd use17:53
romunovyes, but it doesn't get far17:53
flipstarAQ_LIVE: yes vi or nano or..whatever17:54
romunovthe computer is at school, and i don't have access to it right now17:54
romunovperhaps i have written the error down here somewhere...17:54
romunovjust a sec17:54
romunovif i wait long enough (and press ctrl+F1), it drops to "console"17:54
nosrednaekimromunov: ok..... so what graphics card do you have?17:55
AQ_LIVEdoes it come standard with kubuntu?17:56
AQ_LIVEI can't find it17:56
nosrednaekimAQ_LIVE: its vim17:56
romunovi don't have comp specs with me17:57
trappist!diskmounter | Chamuco17:57
romunovit's a fairly new comp17:57
ubotuChamuco: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE17:57
romunovi don't hav ethe error message here with me17:57
hdevalence_I'm having an issue with my laserject 1020.. when i stfw, i found a fix where you build your own foo2zjs driver, but that's for old ubuntus it seems; apparently after 7.04 the driver works fine, and adept says my foo2zjs driver is good for a 1020, but when I try to add printer with the KDE wizard, the 1020 option isn't there17:57
trappistAQ_LIVE: vi?17:57
nosrednaekimromunov: well, I'd reccomend using Gutsy (7.10) if you can get your hands on a CD...17:58
romunovbut it goes something along the lines that linux is unable to find hda117:58
romunovi've downloaded the latest cd from the site17:58
trappistAQ_LIVE: actually some goofy minimalist version of vi ships with it.  the first thing I usually do on a new install is sudo apt-get install vim17:58
nosrednaekimromunov: so this is after it has been installed?17:58
Regitalhey18:00
nosrednaekimhey Regital18:00
romunovnosrednaekim: that's right. the system runs well off liveCD18:00
Regitali have samsung T10, how do i get amarok to recognise the device?18:00
nosrednaekimromunov: ah... ok, does this computer have two hard drives in it?18:00
Jarlaxleo.O18:01
JarlaxleO.o18:01
AQ_LIVEso I just type the same in vi?18:01
romunovnosrednaekim: no, but it is sata18:02
romunovi've read somewhere that this might be the problem18:02
AQ_LIVEsudo edit /boot/grub/menu1.st18:02
nosrednaekimromunov: can you boot into failsafe mode?18:02
nosrednaekimAQ_LIVE: "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"18:02
romunovnosrednaekim: no, i can't. i do get dropped into shell after a few minutes of waiting. but the number of commands is limited18:02
nosrednaekimromunov: so its a busybox shell?18:03
trappistAQ_LIVE: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst - but maybe use nano if you're not comfortable with vim18:04
nosrednaekimromunov: yeah...it may have something to do with it being a sata drive, but I don't have any experience with that.18:05
cannoni need help ... I have lost access to one of my sda's18:08
nosrednaekimcannon: ok..18:09
AQ_LIVEwhen I try either sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.1st there's nothing to change18:09
romunovnosrednaekim: thanks18:09
AQ_LIVEwhy is that18:09
nosrednaekimAQ_LIVE: not a "one" its a "L"18:09
nosrednaekima small L18:10
AQ_LIVElol damn thanks man18:10
cannonif I click on Storage Media it doesn't show any of my drives at all18:10
nosrednaekimcannon: run, from the command line "mount" and see if its listed there18:11
cannonk18:11
cannoncommand line = terminal?18:11
nosrednaekimya18:11
cannon!pastebin18:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:11
cannonhttp://pastebin.com/m25b497ae is the result nosrednaekim18:13
AQ_LIVEHow do I change this: title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic18:13
AQ_LIVEroot            (hd0,4)18:13
AQ_LIVEkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=8a323b8b-ede8-46fc-ac69-f3bda989e1e6 ro quiet splash18:13
AQ_LIVEinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic18:13
AQ_LIVEquiet18:13
AQ_LIVEtitle           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)18:13
AQ_LIVEroot            (hd0,4)18:13
AQ_LIVEkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=8a323b8b-ede8-46fc-ac69-f3bda989e1e6 ro single18:13
AQ_LIVEinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic18:13
Signilcan't play a .vob..vlc and kaffein,mplayer cant play it .. type "Netscape VLC Multimedia Plugin"18:13
AQ_LIVEtitle           Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+18:13
AQ_LIVEroot            (hd0,4)18:13
AQ_LIVEkernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin18:13
cannonugh, pastebin it! lol18:13
nosrednaekim!pastebin18:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:13
AQ_LIVEquiet18:13
AQ_LIVE### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST18:13
AQ_LIVE# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian18:13
AQ_LIVE# ones.18:13
AQ_LIVEtitle           Other operating systems:18:13
nosrednaekim!ops18:13
AQ_LIVEroot18:13
ubotuHelp! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!18:13
jpatrick!paste | AQ_LIVE18:13
ubotuAQ_LIVE: please see above18:13
cannondid ya get my link nosrednaekim?18:14
nosrednaekimcannon: yeah.. I did18:14
jpatrickAQ_LIVE: please use the pastebin in the future, thank you18:14
cannonsda is my kubuntu install ... I seem to have lost sda318:14
Signilcan't play a .vob..vlc and kaffein,mplayer cant play it .. type "Netscape VLC Multimedia Plugin"18:15
jpatrickAQ_LIVE: thank you :)18:15
AQ_LIVEsorry18:15
nosrednaekimcannon: ok, go to system settings->advanced->discs and partitions18:15
AQ_LIVEbut do you know the answer to my question18:15
cannonhmm whre is that?18:15
nosrednaekimcannon: in systemsettings18:16
cannonta, found it18:16
cannonit appears to be no longer mounted18:17
AQ_LIVEn=aqlive@linuxkungfu.org18:17
cannoncould you remind me how to mount it pls?18:17
bmac2I still haven't found a solution for my squashfs error when trying to install on my dual xeon server18:18
nosrednaekimcannon: go into admin mode and then enable it18:18
bmac2anyone know the fix or the workaround to get the livecd to boot or install on a machine that gives a squashfs error?18:18
nosrednaekimbmac2: that would be a problem with the LiveCD18:18
cannonshould I enable at startup nosrednaekim?18:19
nosrednaekimcannon: if you want18:19
bmac2nosrednaekim, no, I find lots of reference to it being a known bug, and it doesn't matter which cd I use, ubuntu, kubuntu18:19
bmac2nosrednaekim, and I find lots of references to the "fix" online but no where can I find out how to fix it.  It seems a unique problem with some dual processor machines.18:20
nosrednaekimbmac2: interesting.18:20
bmac2I have spent 3 days reading the internet18:20
bmac2lots of talk of the bug18:20
cannonnosrednaekim: when I navigate to Storage Media it doesn't show any of my drives ... still saying loading directory 0%18:20
nosrednaekimcannon: try "mount" again18:20
cannonk18:20
flipstarbmac2: does it get recognized during livecd session ?18:21
bmac2I can't boot livecd18:21
bmac2I can't get that far18:21
bmac2it bombs during bootup18:21
bmac2I can install freebsd, slackware, etc18:21
bmac2on the same machine fine18:21
bmac2I have checked the cds18:22
flipstari've never heard of sqashfs..is it official supported by linux ?18:22
bmac2used the cds to install on another machine, fine18:22
bmac2it is used in the boot process of the livecd18:22
nosrednaekimflipstar: its the filesystems for liveCD's18:22
cannon./dev/sda3 on /media/sda3 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) ... thats what am getting now nosrednaekim18:23
nosrednaekimthats good.18:23
bmac2I am just driving myself up a tree with this.  THIS is insane, can't install onto a perfectly good dell server18:23
cannonok, i have access to it now18:23
nosrednaekimjust navigate to "/media/sda3" in konqueror18:23
cannonif I reboot will it allow me to access storage media again?18:23
flipstarbmac2: you might boot a debian based cd and install via debootstrap18:24
nosrednaekimstorage media is just the media:/ kioslave18:24
AQ_LIVEcan anyone help med becomming a registred user here18:25
AQ_LIVEI can t figure out the web page help thing18:25
bmac2AQ_LIVE, type  /msg nickserv register *password*18:25
AQ_LIVEwhere should I type it18:25
bmac2replace the password and the stars with what you want18:26
bmac2in any window18:26
bmac2doesn't matter18:26
bmac2then every time you log in, it will say this name is owned, please log in, or something.  Then you type /msg nickserv *password* to log in18:26
bmac2AQ_LIVE, did that work?18:27
przemek_!pl18:30
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl18:30
Makuserudo i need to convert a .daa to an .iso to mount it? or will kubuntu mount a .daa?18:52
RogueJediXMakuseru: I'm not 100% sure, but I think you have to convert it with PowerISO or UltraISO, I forget which one18:54
geniiPowerISO18:54
Makuseruis there a linux port for poweriso?18:55
geniiYes. Also perhaps look at AcetoneISO18:55
lg188_hey _ always i use a program it popups : error , application/octet-stream ir somthing ...18:56
lg188_or*18:57
lg188_also when start-up18:57
lg188_..any body home ???18:58
geniiMakuseru: Perhaps look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html#more-21318:59
Makuserualright, thanks18:59
Aw0Lis there a way to make the administrator prompts actually prompt for a root password, after setting a root password?19:02
Aw0Llike for accessing adept for instance?19:03
geniilg188_: Try deleting ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/application/octet-stream.desktop19:04
stefan__hey.. id like to help to translate k/ubunto to german.. where can i start?19:06
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ImLizHey all, why can't konqueror connect to hotmail or msn?19:09
hagabakado other browsers connect? can you ping?19:10
ImLizyes I have firefox and it connects, konqueror connect to yahoo's classic look, but not hotmail19:10
ImLizdont know how to ping19:11
ImLizany1 know why not or if there's some sort of upgrade?19:13
geniiAw0L: Look at section of manpage for sudoers which deals with rootpw19:13
Aw0Lgene_, thanks19:14
Fujisanhello, how can i open saved session in Konsole?19:15
Signilwhy cant i play this .vob when i can play others :(19:16
Fujisani was first19:16
Fujisansmiley emo19:16
Fujisanyou need to use the vobplayer19:17
FujisanSignil:19:17
jthomasHello!  Will 32bit *debs run on a 64bit Kubuntu install?19:17
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Fujisanif you multiple it by 2 yes19:17
nosrednaekimjthomas: you will need to use getlibs19:18
nosrednaekimjthomas: and if there is a 64bit deb available.. use that19:18
jthomashow does one use getlibs?  just install it?19:18
Signilhmmm19:19
nosrednaekimjthomas: I'm not sure... there is a nice forum thread on it19:19
jthomasI'll dig for that then, thanks!19:19
Fujisandig out19:19
Fujisanbye19:19
matt__does anyone know why nsgviewer plugin is crashing19:20
Fujisanits cuz you need to virusscan more often19:20
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Fujisanoh19:21
matt1728what's a good virrus program for linux?19:21
Fujisansorry i mean bugscan19:21
jpatrick!virus | matt172819:21
ubotumatt1728: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2119:21
matt1728oh how do i do that ?19:21
Fujisanjpatrick:  happy patty day19:21
Fujisanhappy bd19:21
Fujisan:o19:21
jpatrickFujisan: thanks19:21
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flipstaryou have birthday..? cool gratulations!19:23
stefan__doah. linux NEEDS virusprotection! if a process i taken over by an attacker/virus this app most likely will run in userspace. and Where is all importand data that can be stolen? in userspcae!19:24
stefan__-d+t19:24
matt1728is there a linux virus software/19:24
flipstarthere are no linux viruses in the wild19:25
matt1728ahh19:25
flipstarvirus scanner on unix are for windows viruses19:25
matt1728how do i do a bug scan?19:25
lg188_genii: thnx sorry for late response19:27
stefan__matt1728: there are some tools that scan for rootkits locally like chkrootkit/rkhunter19:27
stefan__matt1728: if you want to scan for remote vulns then use nessus19:28
matt1728as a command?19:28
stefan__apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit19:29
stefan__to install19:29
stefan__then rkhunter -c19:29
stefan__and chkrootkit19:29
stefan__nessus isnt that trivial19:29
stefan__google for it19:29
matt1728thanks19:30
stefan__np19:30
matt1728so this looks for viruses and bugs19:31
stefan__no19:31
stefan__it looks for installed rootkits (like windows trojans.. not really but alike)19:31
matt1728k cool thanks19:32
matt1728one more: do you know how to fix nsgviewer plugin crashing?19:32
BluesKajHow does one delete the contents of an isomount folder that's no longer needed ?19:33
matt1728tried right click?19:33
tylerhow do i auto submit a crash report?19:35
tylerwithout just pasting crash file?19:35
BluesKajthe move to trash gives this error , "Could not rename file /home/user/isomount "19:35
matt1728open the folder as root maybe19:35
flipstartyler: apport does this19:35
tylerflipstar: thnx19:35
tylerin konsole is there a easy way for highlighted tex t o be copied? i don't like how i have to right click and copy every time19:39
Aw0Lis there a way to change the "system settings" back to the standard KDE Control Center layout?19:39
matt1728tyler:dont think so19:40
nosrednaekimAw0L: just run "kcontrol"19:40
Aw0Ltyler, shift+insert?19:40
matt1728thats copy19:40
matt1728paste i mean19:40
kerncotyler:Highlight it, then middle click where you want to paste?19:40
Aw0Lnosrednaekim, thanks - I didn't realize it was a different program19:40
tylermatt1728: dang19:41
tylerAw0L: thats paste19:41
tylerkernco: highlighting it doesn't copy it19:41
kerncodarn19:41
tylerwoah. middle click works but shift-insert doesn't19:41
tylerthats odd19:41
kerncoThat's a pretty traditional UNIX behavior, konsole should think about supporting it19:42
matt1728shift insert is paste19:42
tyleryeah19:42
Aw0Lwhoops, sorry :(19:42
BluesKajctrl + v19:42
tylermatt1728: shift insert doesn't work unless you manually select copy.19:42
matt1728yea19:43
matt1728no it works if you paste from someplace else19:43
tylermatt1728: but middle button works if you highlight19:43
matt1728i dont have a middle buton19:43
matt1728lol19:43
matt1728laptop19:43
tylermatt1728: left and right together function the same19:43
matt1728ahh19:43
matt1728oh nice19:44
matt1728thanks19:44
matt1728never knew that19:44
matt1728is there a better browser than firefox/19:45
tylerdepends on what your quantification of better is19:45
matt1728well faster i guess but in general opinion19:45
matt1728is konqueror better than firefox?19:46
kerncosometimes19:46
Fujisanno19:46
tyleri like opera. it seems a bit quicker19:47
tinit can be faster on some pages, it's does a few ACID3 tests more than firefox2 iirc19:47
tylerfirefox is good because most sites are designed around it and will look slightly off if not viewed in it19:47
Fujisansafari for windows on wine is even quicker than konquerer19:47
matt1728ahh19:47
tylerkonqueror does not display a lot of pages correctly. well how they designer imagined them to display anyway19:48
stefan__yay browserwar :)19:48
matt1728yea for me flashplayer doesnt work in it19:48
tini like konq's speed, but i also like the firefox extensions i use19:48
matt1728its installed but videos dont load19:48
kerncoThe release with 4.1 is going to be a lot better19:48
tylerstefan__: not rreally a war, we are providing the pros and cons of different browsers, thus promoting diversity ;)19:48
kerncoSince it's using webkit19:48
matt1728;p;19:49
tylerI like webkit better than KHTML19:49
matt1728!webkit19:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:49
tyleri'm goingto have to try safari under wine19:49
stefan__i hate that firefox on linux ist much slower (try mtv or any.. colorful.. flashy, javascripty.. sites)19:49
kerncoI think safari uses webkit, so konqueror should behave similar in terms of how it displays websites19:49
tinstefan__: they're getting a LOT faster in ff319:50
Fujisanwhy do we still use application with all the features of one application being restricted to 1 application why is computing not os ubiquitous19:50
tylerfirefox on linux has trouble with a lot of userend javscript stuff, on slower machines any way19:50
stefan__tin: really?19:50
tingmail and comcast's tv guide are much nicer in ff319:50
Fujisangecko rendering engine versus webkit19:50
matt1728what's ff3?19:50
flipstarff3 is very nice but still uses a lot of ram&cpu amount19:50
flipstarfirefox 319:50
tylermatt1728: firefox 319:50
matt1728ahh19:51
tinalthough take note, if you try ff3, make sure you flush the cache and stuff when you change, i got tons of crashes otherwise19:51
Fujisanflip flap 319:51
tyleri like Dillo ;)19:51
matt1728is it beta still?19:51
tinyes19:51
rootHOLA19:51
rootGHYU19:51
tylerroot: you shouldn't irc as root19:51
tinflipstar: ram usage has gone down a bit, and although cpu usage it about that same, it's much faster19:52
rootFR5HGGY19:52
flipstartin: when downloading cpu usage is very high here..19:52
Fujisani really hate web2.0 it makes octa core cpus a necessity19:53
Fujisanall this flash and web2.0 crap19:53
Fujisanwhatever happend to normal text websites19:54
flipstarweb2.0 lol thats bullshit19:54
BluesKajjst for your info , there's no option to delete the isomount contents incuding root , so far19:54
lascarwhich packages do I have to install to get mp4 and aac support in amarok?19:54
flipstarlascar: try kubuntu-restricted-extras19:54
Fujisanlascar: windows xp19:54
flipstaroO19:55
lascarfujisan: what?19:55
Fujisanjoke :)19:55
lascarfigured.  'Twas vague.19:55
flipstarBluesKaj: you did unmounted the iso and now cant delete the mount directory ?19:55
* Signil is away: BedTime19:56
lascarflipstar: I don't see mp4 support in the list of packages to be installed19:56
jussio1!away > Signil19:56
BluesKajflipstar, yes , i tried it mounted and unmounted19:56
cannon_hey guys19:56
cannon_is there an alternative to k3d?19:56
matt1728just install libxine1-ffmpeg its mp3 and m4a19:57
cannon_k3b sorry19:57
Signilnoisy! :/19:57
benpicco_lascar: you mean mp3, don't you? mp4 is video19:57
benpicco_cannon_: there is brasaero19:57
lascarsorry19:57
lascarm4a19:57
cannon_i mean a burner sorry19:58
flipstarBluesKaj: you maybe have to delete that emtpy mountpoint with sudo19:58
lascar!aac19:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:58
flipstarm4a is mpeg afair19:58
BluesKajflipstar empty mountpoint? , it's not empty19:58
flipstaryou said you did unmounted..?19:58
BluesKajok flipstar , I had to umount it 2wice , but it worked , thx20:01
cannon_anybody used nautilus-cd-burner?20:04
benpicco_cannon_: tried brasaero yet?20:04
cannon_i'll look20:05
benpicco_btw.: it´s spelled brasero ;-)20:05
cannon_i can't find it in package manager20:05
cannon_i tried to load k3b but it's not opening for some reason20:06
flipstarcannon_: try launching from konsole to see whats happening20:06
benpicco_if you start it from terminal, what output does it give?20:06
cannon_k20:06
cannon_no response in terminal20:07
cannon_brb, rebooting20:08
flipstaranyone ever get audacious 1.5.0 working ?20:09
cannonstill won't load up20:12
cannoni need another burner as it won't load :(20:12
benpicco_cannon: do you get any error messages when you start k3b from terminal?20:13
cannonnup20:13
cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ K3b20:14
cannonbash: K3b: command not found20:14
cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ k3b20:14
cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$20:14
benpicco_that´s strange20:14
cannonthe icon bounces on the mouse cursor20:14
cannonand it shows an egg timer in the task panel20:14
cannonbut then disapears20:15
cannonmaybe removing and reinstalling might help20:15
benpicco_yes, this has nothing to say, happens whenever you start anything20:15
benpicco_you should give it a try20:15
cannontrying again20:17
cannonstill the same20:17
cannonso i need another app20:17
benpicco_and other kde apps work?20:18
geniicannon: Try removing ~/.kde/share/config/k3brc20:18
geniiIt will re-create when you run the app again20:19
* hubhub is away: Parti pour l'instant.20:19
Biggleshey how come when i install a theme in DeKorator or w/e it doesnt show up on the themes list? like a little box flashes like it was installing and then its like nothing happened...20:28
nicedaygood evening. could you give me the name of a good video-podcast programme for KDE, please ? Like gPodder for Gnome. Thank you20:34
benpicco_why don't you just use on gPodder?20:36
^u^!podcast | niceday20:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:36
nicedaybenpicco_: I prefer KDE. I'll use gPodder if there won't be any for KDE.20:38
benpicco_I don't really know what gPodder does, but all video editing apps coming in my mind were gtk ones20:39
genii!info kitty20:40
flipstarhave a nice day.. im out20:40
ubotukitty (source: kitty): a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 251 kB, installed size 652 kB20:40
genii!info gpodder20:40
nicedaybenpicco_: it's no editing software. It's like RSS with multimedia (video) content20:40
ubotugpodder (source: gpodder): A GTK+ Media aggregator and Podcast catcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-1 (gutsy), package size 150 kB, installed size 916 kB20:40
martijn81isn't /dev/sda the full disk including the mbr?20:41
nosrednaekimmartijn81: yes20:41
nosrednaekimoh wait.... hrm... maybe not20:41
nosrednaekimI don't know if dd'ing a drive copys the mbr20:41
geniiYes, it does20:41
geniiIf you dd /dev/sda  it will copy the mbr plus all subpartition information20:42
vltHello. I installed compiz-kde on Kubuntu 7.10. Whenever I run `compiz --replace` I get a messsage "kde window decorator has crashed". Any idea how to solve this?20:42
nosrednaekimvlt: install emerald20:43
vltnosrednaekim: thank you20:43
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martijn81no20:44
martijn81nosrednaekim: IT DOES20:44
martijn81oops20:44
MoZarDmsg ns register mozard k12345 k12345620:44
Biggleshow do i fix my scroller bar in firefox?20:44
Bigglesits like glitchy20:44
nosrednaekimheh..... choose a new password :)20:44
martijn81i want to compile kde4 in sidux, is this a good guide for it? http://tuxtraining.com/2008/03/14/how-to-install-a-kde4-package-from-source/20:44
geniiMoZarD: I'd recommend a new password, quickly20:44
MoZarDwhy?20:45
MoZarD:d20:45
MoZarD:D20:45
geniiMoZarD: Because: [16:44:33:435] <MoZarD> msg ns register mozard k12345 k12345620:45
Bigglesoh and how do i update to kde 3.9? I think im on 3.8...20:45
vltMoZarD: Don't worry, we saw this only as "********" ...20:45
vlt;)20:45
jpatrickMoZarD: /msg NickServ help set password20:46
MoZarDwhat is the type of this irc system20:46
Bigglesugh20:46
nosrednaekimBiggles: don't upgrade to 3.5.9..... only bugs there20:46
jpatrickMoZarD: best ask in #freenode20:47
geniiMoZarD: ircd-dancer20:47
jpatrickgenii: http://freenode.net/hyperion.shtml20:47
geniiAh, yes20:47
geniijpatrick: I looked at the wrong line in my Ubuntu IRC tab20:48
benpicco_vlt: http://bash.org/?24432120:48
jpatrickgenii: :)20:48
cannonhey guys20:51
cannonhow do I enable dual monitor?20:51
vltbenpicco_: Yes, I already knew that. Still *roflmao*20:51
cannonhow do I enable dual monitor?20:53
chad_hai20:53
chad_me having issues20:53
chad_i was upgrade a fresh install and it had errors and said i needed to upgrade the distrubtuion20:54
chad_some gui popped up but wouldnt run due to adept already running20:54
chad_what was the guis name so i can launch it again?20:54
benpicco_chad_: better try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal ;)20:55
chad_k20:55
benpicco_chad_: it´s faster than opening the gui, clicking the buttons, etc...20:55
benpicco_and it needs far less ram20:55
Daisuke_Idoyou don't need to dist-upgrade yet, hardy is still in alpha, and a bad idea for most people at this point20:56
benpicco_dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to hardy20:56
Daisuke_Idoif you do choose to go to hardy, #ubuntu+1 is the support channel20:56
shivI need to make a bootable iso of my system with the /home folder in it. Which one of these commands should I use? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html21:02
Briareos_can i configure applications to initally load in a specific workspace in gnome?21:04
aliriohey i need some help with kopete21:06
Briareos_which kind of? :)21:06
alirioi need send messages but when i m in invisible status21:07
Briareos_and it does not work?21:08
alirioor receive it messages when other people sent it me but i was not connect21:08
uni4dfxi don't think kopete can really do that21:08
uni4dfxtry amsn21:08
aliriobut somebody said me that there is a plugin21:09
alirioto do it21:09
aliriosomebody knows?21:09
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uni4dfxdunno about that, kopete doesn't have that many plugins21:10
alirio_it means that it doesnt possible21:10
uni4dfxwhy kopete anyway... try pidgin21:11
alirio_becouse i dont like gaim21:11
ubuntuhey21:11
ubuntumy os is goosed21:11
uni4dfxhow exactly21:11
ubuntuit loads up with a terminal instead of the desktop21:11
uni4dfxare there any error messages21:12
alirio_i tried with emesene but it dont let sent files or share it21:12
ubuntuloads! lol21:12
alirio_send21:12
ubuntubut I don't remember em21:12
ubuntuare they stored somewhere?21:12
uni4dfxdmesg i think21:12
uni4dfxbut maybe your Xserver is goosed and it won't boot... so be sure to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:13
StofferI just installed the kde theme manager, but I can't get into administrator mode to actually change the theme.  I hit the button and all I get is a big red box across the window.21:13
Stofferany ideas?21:14
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uni4dfxyea21:14
uni4dfxdo it with kcontrol21:14
ubuntu!paste21:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:14
ubuntucould you have a quick look for me pls: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59968/21:15
uni4dfxlooks clean21:15
ubuntuwhat else could it be?21:15
uni4dfxit's probably the xserver21:15
ubuntuk21:16
uni4dfxlook into /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:16
Briareos_can i configure applications to initally load in a specific workspace in gnome?21:16
Stofferuni4dfx, is the theme manager there the same as the kdm theme manager?  It doesn't seem to have the same themes installed21:16
uni4dfxlemme check21:17
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59969/21:18
uni4dfxthere's the login manager21:18
ubuntuso that file looks ok then?21:18
Aw0Lanyone remember off hand where to install new kdm themes?21:18
ubuntuhow do I access the login manager?21:19
uni4dfxnot you :)21:19
Briareos_is there any pdf preview plugin for evolution?21:19
uni4dfxthe xorg log looks fine too21:19
uni4dfxwhat happens if you press ctrl+alt+f721:19
ubuntuso what do you suggest uni4dfx?21:19
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Cannonhadn;t realised my name :P21:20
Sonakgood eve, does anyone here know how to delete the grab boot manager easyly?21:20
SQLDarklyI have just installed Kubuntu....I edited my eth0 @ the CLI /etc/network/interfaces and changed from dhcp to static21:23
SQLDarklyno the device is not active even if i go back to dhcp21:23
SQLDarklyany thoughts on how to correct this21:24
SQLDarklySo far I still like the CLI better and am not used to this KDE environment. DO I have to use the kcontrol to configure network interfaces?21:24
_stijn_mhz21:25
uni4dfxtry knetworkmanager21:25
_stijn_somebody knows how to build a kernel?21:25
uni4dfxbtw. SQLDarkly... have you thought of..you know, setting /etc/network/interfaces back the way it was before?21:26
SQLDarklyuni4dfx.... I dont get anything when I run knetworkmanager.  Doesn't kcontrol do the same thing21:26
uni4dfxkcontrol is like a windows control panel... lots of apps at one place21:27
SQLDarklyheh I shouldnt have to. I have modified MANY linux boxes' eth cards. Unless KDE handles crap different it should work21:27
uni4dfxyea KDE might handle crap differently21:27
SQLDarklywell I cannot remember how the base install has it. heh21:28
SQLDarklyare you familiar with the interfaces file?21:28
uni4dfxi can tell u that21:28
SQLDarklywell that would be great21:28
uni4dfxthe default is just 4 lines21:28
uni4dfxauto ln21:28
uni4dfxinterface lo inet loopback21:28
uni4dfxaddress 127.0.0.121:28
uni4dfxnetmask 255.0.0.021:28
uni4dfxoops i screwed up the 1st one:21:29
uni4dfxauto lo21:29
SQLDarklyfigured21:29
SQLDarklyim not a complete novice which is why im irritated at the moment21:29
SQLDarklyKDE seems to be beating me :)21:29
uni4dfxKDE is a whole new world ;D21:29
shivI unmounted my ntfs partition how do i remount it?21:30
SQLDarklyI see. Its not just a nice friendly CLI.21:30
uni4dfxsudo mount /path/to/mountpoint21:30
SQLDarklyI am trying to get my entire office off of windows and on KDE21:30
SQLDarklywill be 415 seats21:30
uni4dfxwow sweet21:30
uni4dfxusing Kubuntu i assume?21:30
SQLDarklyyes21:30
uni4dfxmy choice too21:31
Aw0Lwhy is it that if I restart the network interface, kubuntu won't pull an IP from the dhcp server?  it only seems to work at boot21:31
Y-TownSQLDarkly: me too, but only 6 computers  :o)21:31
SQLDarklyI figure if my entire center is *nix the office will glow some sort of angelic gold21:31
uni4dfxAw0L: sudo dhclient21:31
Aw0Luni4dfx, but it should automatically pull that down when you restart the interfaces right? /etc/init.d/networking...?21:32
SQLDarklyok this is weird I went ahead and further modified the interfaces file.21:32
SQLDarklyI have full net access now but the eth0 reads as down in XWindows21:32
SQLDarklylast thing I need is a bunch of people bothering IT cause thier Icon is wrong lol.21:32
uni4dfxAw0L: i think so, but i'm not sure21:32
SQLDarklyIf I find a solution ill be sure to post it21:33
uni4dfxwhat icon21:33
uni4dfxknetworkmanager?21:33
Aw0Lflaky21:33
Aw0Luni4dfx, thanks21:33
SQLDarklythe RJ45 connector at the lower right hand corner21:33
SQLDarklywhen opened it reads the connection as down21:34
SQLDarklyyet ......its up :|21:34
uni4dfxyou can just hide the icon :D21:34
uni4dfxrightclick on the system tray --> Configure System Tray21:34
SQLDarklyYeah I know but isnt that a horrible hacked solution. Forgive me but I MUST be clean. Doesnt matter if its my car my body my code or my boxes. Everything must be clean and commented21:35
uni4dfxyea i know21:35
uni4dfxlemme google a bit21:35
suskincafte21:35
uni4dfxoh and just to be clear... you did install all the updates and you're using gutsy, right?21:36
SQLDarklyNo to the updates yes to gutsy21:36
uni4dfxinstall the updates21:36
SQLDarklyI updated only what was needed21:36
uni4dfxthere are lots of kde fixes21:37
SQLDarklyhmmmm safe update ill run perhaps.21:37
SQLDarklyFull update didnt like to complete last time21:37
suskinporadte niekto ako nainstalovat zo suboru tar.bz21:37
uni4dfxsome repo was probably unreachable... happens sometimes21:38
uni4dfxi usually try again later21:38
SQLDarklyon full upgrade?21:38
uni4dfxwhat do you mean by full upgrade21:38
uni4dfxi don't mean upgrading to hardy21:38
SQLDarklyOne is a safe option21:38
uni4dfxjust updating the packages21:38
dvoidmy system seems stable now, seems like the evil nvidia driver was the cause if the random crashes, switch to the nvidia-glx-new package and had no crash since21:38
uni4dfxdvoid, good call... nvidia-glx-new solved lots of things for me too21:39
ubuntucould somebody help me pls21:39
SQLDarklyrunning the Adept upgrade now maybe it will fix it i will certainly let you know21:39
dvoiduni4dfx, :)21:39
uni4dfxyea do that21:39
ubuntui have an error loading my os ... @No Resume Image@21:39
uni4dfxthat's not an error21:39
SQLDarklylol21:40
uni4dfxit means there's nothing to resume21:40
uni4dfxit's there for hybernation i think21:40
uni4dfxor when you use suspend or sth21:40
uni4dfxit loads the entire system state into an image21:40
uni4dfxand loads it the next time you boot21:40
SQLDarklyopps wrong room :) not laughing at you ubuntu i promise21:40
hellhoundwhat is the command to run memtest86?21:40
uni4dfxno command... reboot and select memtest in grub21:41
Y-Townhellhound: its on the cd21:41
uni4dfxor that21:41
ubuntuso how do I fix it uni4dfx?21:41
uni4dfxthere's nothing to fix21:41
uni4dfxjust ignore it21:41
ubuntubut it loads to terminal21:42
hellhoundY-Town: how would i run it from the cd?21:42
ubuntuhow do I get the gui to load up?21:42
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uni4dfxwhat happens21:42
uni4dfxif you type sudo gdm21:42
Cannonlet me chekc21:42
Y-Townhellhound: put the cd in drive and reboot.... you will see it in the choices21:42
Cannonubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo gdm21:42
Cannonsudo: gdm: command not found21:42
hellhoundY-Town: ah ok thank you21:43
Cannoni'll try that memory test thing21:43
uni4dfxumm21:43
Cannonhow long should it take uni4dfx?21:43
uni4dfxcannon21:43
Cannonyes?21:43
uni4dfxit means you didn't install the correct system21:43
uni4dfxdid you install the server edition?21:44
Cannongutsy gibbon21:44
uni4dfxprobably the server edition yeah21:44
uni4dfxit doesn't have a GUI21:44
Cannonnooooooooo21:44
Cannonlol21:44
Cannoni have been using it for a few days now21:44
Cannoni rebooted after trying to configer dual monitor support21:44
Cannonnividia-settings21:44
uni4dfxtype startx then21:45
Cannonk21:45
uni4dfx(without then)21:45
Cannonlol ;)21:45
uni4dfxhad to be sure :P21:45
Cannonxauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.993721:45
CannonX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.21:45
uni4dfxnow we're getting somewhere21:45
Cannonoh good :)21:46
uni4dfxtry doing21:46
uni4dfxsudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common21:47
Cannonwhat user ... console only?21:47
uni4dfxselect anybody21:47
Cannonk21:48
Cannonnice value for x serveR?21:48
uni4dfxtry default21:48
Cannondone21:48
Cannonnow a reboot?21:48
uni4dfxwell try startx now21:48
uni4dfxor reboot21:49
Cannonk21:49
Cannonxauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.1007521:49
CannonFatal server error:21:49
CannonServer is already active for display 021:49
Cannon        If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock21:49
Cannon        and start again.21:49
CannonCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console21:49
uni4dfxjust reboot21:49
Cannonk21:49
uni4dfxbrb21:49
Cannonme too :)21:49
Y-TownIs there any good reason to have a windows partition if all my computers run linux and use vm ware for any needed windows apps?21:49
nosrednaekimY-Town: not unless you need games,nope21:50
Y-Townnosrednaekim: I dont think so... When I redo my entire network this Friday I was just wondering if it would be needed at all21:51
Makuseruwhere is xorg located21:56
uni4dfxwhat part of it21:57
Makuseruxorg.config21:57
Makuseruits been so long since ive had to do anything with it i forgot what folder its in21:58
uni4dfx... /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:58
ubuntuback21:58
ubuntustill no luck21:58
Makuseruthanks21:58
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uni4dfxstartx still says the same thing?21:58
Cannonxauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.1000921:59
CannonX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.21:59
Cannonxinit:  Server error.21:59
CannonCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console21:59
Cannonit seams so21:59
uni4dfxwhat exactly did you do?21:59
Cannonjust a reboot21:59
Cannonbefore it went21:59
uni4dfxno i mean to get this problem21:59
Cannoni was trying to configure nvidia-settings21:59
uni4dfxhow22:00
Cannonto enable dual screen support22:00
nosrednaekim!dualhead22:00
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama22:00
slow-motionhi22:00
uni4dfxcan you show me your xorg.conf22:00
Cannonsure22:01
Cannonhow do I get to it?22:01
Cannon!paste22:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:01
uni4dfxit's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:02
alex-weejwhat is the default web browser in kubuntu?22:02
nosrednaekimkonqueror22:03
Cannonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59974/22:03
alex-weejdefault window manager?22:03
uni4dfxK is for KDE ... usually :P22:04
Cannondid ya get it uni4dfx?22:04
uni4dfxYea22:04
uni4dfxlooks very clean22:04
Cannonso what can I do?22:04
Cannondo I need to re-install everything?22:04
uni4dfxnot yet22:05
uni4dfxso typing sudo gdm doesn't do anything22:05
uni4dfx?22:05
uni4dfxoh wait22:05
uni4dfxyou're using kubuntu?22:05
uni4dfxXD22:05
Cannonsudo: gdm: command not found22:06
Cannonyep22:06
uni4dfxgot me confused cuz your name was ubuntu22:06
Cannonlol22:06
uni4dfxthen sudo kdm22:06
nosrednaekimuhh, you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"?22:06
Cannonubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo kdm22:06
Cannonubuntu@ubuntu:~$22:06
Cannoni get nothing22:06
uni4dfxctrl+alt+f722:06
uni4dfx?22:06
dirk_hallo22:06
Cannonnothing22:07
dirk_?22:07
uni4dfxodd22:07
uni4dfxyou can try what nosrednaekim said, but i'm not sure it will be any different22:07
uni4dfxstill here?22:10
ritaliny0, kubuntu rocks22:12
ritalinbut I needs teh flash plugin, whats it called the adobe one?22:12
Jucatouni4dfx: actually you can't run kdm with plain "sudo kdm" only22:12
uni4dfxyea you can22:12
uni4dfxi do it all the time22:12
nosrednaekimritalin: flashplugin-nonfree22:13
uni4dfxusually when it's not running tho22:13
venikwhy do some programs simply DISAPPEAR from my menus, and apparently, from my system?  An example is Basket-- it simply evaporates!22:13
cannonstill not booting22:13
venikI have to reinstall it frequencly22:13
uni4dfxi can't believe your xorg log is clean22:13
ritalindanke22:14
pat5staranyone tell me if there is a bind # on this server, or where I could ask some basic questions about running a local dns server in a small office home network?22:14
cannonany other ideas uni4dfx?22:14
uni4dfxhave you tried the kdm restart command22:15
cannonyep22:15
uni4dfxnothing?22:15
uni4dfxjust nothing or errors?22:15
cannongot a terminal and didn't know how to get out of it22:15
cannonso I reset22:15
uni4dfxctrl+c usually does the trick22:16
venikthe same is for my USB external drive... it disappeared from my STORAGE folder22:16
cannonwhats the command ... I'll try again22:16
uni4dfxsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart22:16
cannonhow long should it take uni4dfx?22:16
uni4dfxshould be instant22:16
Stofferfor some reason kdm has no effect on my system.  I did manage to get into it by typing 'sudo kcontrol'.  Would sudoing it make changes to a different user or something, not the one i'm currently in?   any ideas?22:16
uni4dfxStoffer... and why did you have to run kcontrol with sudo?22:18
Stofferuni4dfx, because otherwise I can't get "administrator mode" working with kdm22:18
Stofferuni4dfx, if I run it with sudo kdm lets me change themes22:18
Stofferuni4dfx, but it doesn't work22:18
Stofferuni4dfx, basically i'm trying to get my system looking good w/out having to go back to compiz.  kdm seems like my best shot22:19
Stoffernothing else seems to work well22:19
Stofferwell...not like  kdm's working at all...22:19
uni4dfxyou didn't by any chance install kdm from ubuntu?22:19
Stofferuni4dfx, I think I just installed it through the synaptic package manager22:19
uni4dfxyeah22:20
Stofferuni4dfx, since adept doens't do much22:20
uni4dfxbut, you already had kdm if you installed kubuntu22:20
Stofferuni4dfx,  I didn't see it until I "installed" it today though22:20
Stofferuni4dfx, I didn't have the option in my system appearance settings22:20
uni4dfxyou mean kdm theme manager22:21
uni4dfxnot kdm22:21
Stofferuni4dfx, oh...didn't realize there was a difference22:21
Stofferuni4dfx, I don't know what I installed then22:21
intelikeycat /var/log/dpkg.log22:22
uni4dfxso if you go to kcontrol22:22
Stofferbut I guess to be more specific, the kdm theme manager isn't doing anything22:22
uni4dfxhmm22:22
intelikeyif you want to know what you did install that is22:22
uni4dfxdid you update everything22:22
uni4dfxcuz i remember there was a bug22:22
uni4dfxthat made kdm theme manager's changes uneffective22:23
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Stofferuni4dfx, well, I have the latest versions according to synaptic22:23
cannonstill nothing22:23
Stofferuni4dfx, and they're ubuntu versions22:23
Stofferuni4dfx, both kdm and kdm theme manager22:23
uni4dfxyou have kubuntu or ubuntu?22:24
Stofferuni4dfx, kubuntu22:24
Stofferuni4dfx, well, I installed ubuntu then switched to kde. so I dunno22:24
Stofferuni4dfx, I used to run gnome22:24
uni4dfxso you originally had ubuntu22:24
Stofferuni4dfx, yes22:24
uni4dfxi did that last year22:25
uni4dfxand ran into so many problems22:25
uni4dfxi just reinstalled everything with kubuntu22:25
shivI unmounted the sda1(ntfs) from the desktop for making remastersys. How do I remount it back on the desktop and make it mount everytime I boot?22:25
Stofferuni4dfx,  you mean format and start from scratch?22:25
cannonanything else I can do before I re-install uni4dfx?22:25
pierre_hello guys. when reducing the screen resolution (system settings), kubuntu is not affecting the changes - the same resolution is kept !! any idea ?22:25
uni4dfxi dunno cannon, i think i'm out of ideas22:26
cannonk22:26
uni4dfxsee if anyone else has some, or try googling22:26
Dr_willispierre_,  totally restart the X server, with alt-ctrl-baclspace22:26
uni4dfxStoffer yes i mean from scratch22:26
uni4dfxbut it won't be that bad22:26
uni4dfxcuz you'll have KDE out of the box22:26
Stofferuni4dfx, lame.... well at least I have all my stuff on a seperate partition22:26
Stofferuni4dfx, is there an easy way to do it?  Is there a kubuntu livecd that'll do most of the work for me?22:27
uni4dfxof course22:27
Stofferuni4dfx, maybe this is also why kde4 basically won't run at all on my system22:27
Stofferuni4dfx, it's all messed up22:27
Stofferuni4dfx, which is why i'm still with 322:28
uni4dfxif you want KDE, go for kubuntu22:28
uni4dfxhttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php22:28
uni4dfxbut i suggest you wait til 8.10 is released22:28
uni4dfxsorry, i mean 8.0422:28
Stofferuni4dfx, when's that?22:28
uni4dfxapril22:28
Stofferuni4dfx, ok, thanks for the tip22:28
* intelikey still likes the package selection of "kde" rather than "kubuntu-desktop"22:29
shivI unmounted the sda1(ntfs) from the desktop for making remastersys. How do I remount it back on the desktop and make it mount everytime I boot?22:31
intelikey!ntfs22:31
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE22:31
azzcoHas anyone gotten kopete ktts 1.3 to work under ubuntu? I downloaded the sources, compiled and installed but I can't find it in kopete plugins22:33
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matt1728does any one use dvdshrink in wine? im having problems with it22:39
azzcomatt1728: #winehq ?22:40
azzcomatt1728: without the ? on the end ;)22:40
matt1728thanks22:41
matt1728is there a dvdshrink for windows22:41
intelikey?22:41
matt1728linuxa*22:41
matt1728dvd shrink for linux22:41
uni4dfxDVD Shrink - DVD Ripping and Backup22:42
uni4dfxLatest OFFICIAL Version - 3.2.0.1522:42
uni4dfxOperating System Support - Windows 9x/2000/XP22:42
intelikeyubotu find dvd22:42
ubotuFound: dvd+rw-tools, radvd, dvd95, dvdauthor, dvdbackup (and 20 others)22:42
matt1728but is there a dvdshrinking software for linux?22:42
Daisuke_Idono22:43
Daisuke_Idothere is22:44
Daisuke_Idok9copy22:44
IppatsuManmatt1728: you could try k9copy or dvd::rip22:44
Daisuke_Idoubotu info k9copy22:44
ubotuk9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB22:44
Daisuke_Idoi recommend k9 because it's far less trouble than dvd::rip (i personally use both)22:44
matt1728does shrink?22:45
matt1728do they shrink?22:45
Daisuke_Idok9copy will do the 9 to 5 conversion yes22:45
matt1728ahh22:45
Daisuke_Idoand it's actually easier than dvdshrink, i think22:45
Stofferuni4dfx, hey, would there be any drawbacks in installing kubutnu now and then just upgrading when the new version comes out?22:46
RogueJediXWhy won't my QT apps like Speedcrunch adapt to my KDE theme? They're all blocky and ugly.22:46
matt1728k ill check it out22:47
uni4dfxStoffer, it may go wrong yes22:47
Stofferoh22:47
Stofferok22:47
Daisuke_Idowalking across the street may go wrong22:47
Stofferi guess i'll have to wait then22:47
uni4dfxyea good point22:47
uni4dfxbut upgrading *ubuntu has gone wrong every time for me22:47
uni4dfxi usually cross the street alive22:48
Daisuke_Idothere's no reason not to install, the upgrade process has improved with every release so far, which means a far less chance of problems now than there were upgrading from 6.10 to 7.0422:48
intelikeyanyone that uses *buntu and isn't willing to {upgrade...oops...reloade} should use the LTS22:48
Daisuke_Idointelikey, horrible example of irony: the release they're upgrading to IS the lts22:49
intelikeyi didn't say upgrade to LTS    i said use    "implies install it"22:49
Daisuke_Idohence why i said horrible example22:50
* intelikey fails to see the irony so doesn't see why it's an example of irony...22:50
Daisuke_Idocome to think of it, neither do i :\22:52
intelikeyperhaps you failed to propperly translate the "{upgrade...oops...reloade}"     that means to do that every -6 months  you know.22:52
intelikeyand if one is not willing to do that every six months   they should use the   LTS    or debian.22:53
intelikeythat does not imply that you will have to reload   just that you should be willing to22:54
* intelikey also points out that his rant was "nube based" not "13eti57 based"22:55
Daisuke_Idointelikey, i think that's what i missed22:56
Daisuke_Idomy apologies22:56
intelikeyno worries.22:56
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ahmoshi,how i can make a network between two computers23:20
Agrajag`ahmos: do they have network cards?23:21
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ahmosyes lan cards23:21
Agrajag`do you have a switch or a hub?23:21
ahmoslet's say no23:22
Agrajag`crossover cable?23:22
ahmosyes23:22
Agrajag`plugged between the two?23:22
ahmosaha :)23:22
Agrajag`both computers using kubuntu?23:23
ahmoslet's say kubuntu and windows23:23
Agrajag`k23:23
Agrajag`so basically you just want to get IPs for them?23:23
ahmosi guess!! :D23:24
ahmosand to share folders between them23:24
Agrajag`do you have samba installed?23:26
ahmoswhen i click network folders icon i can see samba shares23:26
ahmosonly samba-common23:28
ahmosi'm not registered23:29
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asobiwhat's a good transcoding program? i want to change m4a to mp323:57
matt1728any good movies out there that i should download?23:58
matt1728#waffles23:59

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