[00:00] <lovre> when i logon, kwin is loaded first, and then compiz starts with --replace. Is there a way to make compiz default window manager, so kwin wouldnt even start....?
[00:03] <Dragnslcr> lovre- yes, but last time I tried it, it didn't work very well. I remember there being a couple bugs with it
[00:05] <Biggles> how do you hide files?
[00:07] <Biggles> anyone?
[00:08] <lovre> Biggles: put an . in front of its name
[00:08] <Biggles> ohh
[00:08] <Biggles> tu
[00:08] <lovre> file.txt -> .file.txt
[00:08] <lovre> np
[00:08] <Biggles> ty*
[00:08] <Biggles> lol
[00:08] <lovre> :p0
[00:09] <lovre> Dragnslcr: can you tell me how, so i can try? Its anoyying me how the process of unloading kwin and loading compiz allways kicks the icons out of the kicker... They just float around the desktop.. and i have to restart X numerous times for a normal load to happen
[00:10] <synteth> anyone can give me some instruction in how to install a kde theme
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> lovre- I think it's an environment variable
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> lovre- something like this might work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511389
[00:15] <lovre> Dragnslcr: thank you very much, i will take a look...
[00:16] <pat5star> my home folder is getting full and i've just added an external hard drive, is there a way I can append extra space from the external drive to my ~ dirs, or do I need to move /home completely over to the external now? does this even make sense? lol
[00:17] <lovre> why dont you just use the space as is? Why the need to make it part of home? You can store your data on it just the same...
[00:18] <pat5star> i have 5 diff users, everyone has there stuff in their ~ dirs...how do I 'cocatenate' it with the new available space...sry I'm having trouble trying to explain what I'm thinkin
[00:19] <lovre> pat5star: its clear what you are thinking... not sure how to do it. Here's what im thinking. Make a folder inside your home dir, something like ~/extraSpace
[00:19] <lovre> then mount that folder to your disc
[00:20] <pat5star> like would I have to create 5 new home dir on the external drive and sym link to it from their existing ~ dirs?
[00:20] <lovre> so when you save something in ~/extraSpace, it would be stored on your external disk, and still be accessible from within the home folde
[00:20] <lovre> r
[00:20] <jhutchins> Anybody around who knows routing?
[00:22] <pat5star> lovre: ok I see. so I've already permanetly mounted the new drive to /external. I guess adding 5 new user folders in /external chown'd appropirately, and symlinked to from the original home folders as ~/extraspace is the best way to go
[00:23] <lovre> pat5star: i would go with that. But, you may want to ask around some more, im not the expert....
[00:24] <pat5star> I was just trying to make it seamless so that users wouldn't see the diff. I suppose it won't happen but for args sake, let's say I have 10gb space left, and user A wants to upload a 15gb file...he won't be able to fit it in his ~ but will instead have to use ~/extraspace/*
[00:25] <pat5star> sry, to clarify, I meant if there was only 10gb space available on the internal hard drive, the external is 500gb so much more space available there
[00:26] <pat5star> I'm also thinking about just moving /home right out to the external completely, but this is my first time using one of them and I'm not sure if speed diff is going to be a big impact or not
[00:26] <pat5star> it's connected via usb2, if that helps
[00:28] <pat5star> brb
[00:32] <lovre> pat5star: not sure if its a good idea to move home dir to external disc. It is external, and you are due to unplug it some time... then youll be with no home dir.. And the speed is decresed, and i bet it would make a difference
[00:34] <ilya> hi all
[00:34] <ilya> I have a question
[00:35] <ilya> how can I shape the bandwidth which I forwarding by iptables thruout nat ???
[00:42] <tekstacy> When I try to look at my Samba shares, I get the error "timeout on server".  What could be wrong?
[00:42] <NickPresta> Does anyone else have their time and date set automatically by Public Time Server (pool.ntp.org)? My time occasionally jumps around (sometimes a year ahead/back, sometimes an hour ahead/back, etc). I'm trying to narrow it down to a PTS issue or a system issue.
[00:43] <tekstacy> NickPresta, no, but I could change it and let you know
[00:43] <gamma9mu> tekstacy: is your firewall configured to pass the traffic?
[00:44] <IppatsuMan> NickPresta: I use europe.pool.ntp.org and I didn't notice any odd behaviour in at least 6 months.
[00:44] <tekstacy> no. Will I have to open a port just for the timeserver?
[00:44] <NickPresta> tekstacy, well, it happens infrequently (perhaps once every couple weeks) so I don't know if changing it for now would help much (Plus I wouldn't want to distort your time :P).
[00:45] <gamma9mu> for samba, i mean
[00:45] <jeremy_> hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux
[00:45] <NickPresta> IppatsuMan, hmm. I hardly ever turn off my machine so I haven't tested (yet) to see if the time changes after a reboot. I might do that later. For now, I think I'm just going to manually keep time. Every time this happens I think I lost an hour on my deadlines or something lol
[00:46] <tekstacy> :)    AHHH, I see, I was thinking of NickPresta's question and looked at gamma9mu's answer....  duh
[00:46] <tekstacy> gamma9mu,  That explains it. I forgot about that
[00:47] <tekstacy> What port does Samba use?
[00:47] <gamma9mu> glad to help
[00:47] <gamma9mu> ahhh... 1 second
[00:47] <pat5star> lovre: ya I agree...I have the same concerns...I'm going to have to think this through a little more...thx
[00:47] <tekstacy> NickPresta, I was going to change it, but I noticed I already use pool.ntp.org
[00:48] <tekstacy> Haven't seen any erratic time
[00:49] <gamma9mu> tekstacy: 445 tcp + udp, i think
[00:50] <tekstacy> gamma9mu, thanks
[00:50] <gamma9mu> no problem
[00:51] <gamma9mu> tekstacy: also tcp/udp 135-139  according to the web
[00:52] <gamma9mu> those are netbios according to services, though
[00:55] <tekstacy> S**T, I opened all those, and the server still times out
[00:55] <d3jake> if I have two Hard drives, one with XP on it, and one with Kubuntu, with seperate bootloaders, is there a way to set up Grub to give me a boot menu screen?
[00:56] <gamma9mu> did you open them on the server
[00:56] <gamma9mu> ?
[00:56] <tekstacy> Um, no. the router. :(
[00:57] <Dr_willis> d3jake,   You just install grub on whatever hd your are booting the systemn from.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  your setup is rather common. :) at least in my house.
[00:58] <d3jake> Dr_wills: So, set Xp HDD for master, Linux for slave? or the other way around?
[00:58] <tekstacy> Linux is master.                    Just because.....
[00:58] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  if you want a grub menu, you install to whatever drive is the one tye system is booting from
[00:58] <Dr_willis> the slave/master stuff dosent matter
[00:58] <synteth> can anyone tell me
[00:58] <synteth> how to install a icon pack?
[00:59] <Dr_willis> slave/master is for the location on the ide cable :)
[00:59] <d3jake> I was told that Windows might freak out if it isn't the master drive
[00:59] <Dr_willis> i alwyas ise cable select now a days for that setting.
[00:59] <d3jake> ?
[00:59] <d3jake> or..?
[00:59] <tzanger> good evening
[00:59] <d3jake> ello
[00:59] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  possibially. Linux can work fine on the slave drive.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> But now a days most pc's can boot either drive fine.
[00:59] <tzanger> I'm trying to install 7.10 on an older gigabyte board; there's an sis chipset sata controller on here with the drives behind it, but the installer's not detecting the drives... any idea what the driver would be called/ there's no 'sis' in the list it provides
[01:00] <d3jake> okay, here's the trouble, if I can only setup Grub in Linux, then how can I set the XP disc to master, and still boot to Linux to set it up without a bootloader?
[01:00] <Dr_willis>  on a 'new' system i would put windows on master hd. install windows..  install linux on the 2nd hd.
[01:00] <synteth> can anyone tell me how to change my icons?
[01:00] <Dr_willis> when you install linux - it should see the windows install and create a grub entry for windows. If not you can manually make one.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> You have this setting master/slave all confused. The Location on the IDE cable defines which disk is master and which is slave.
[01:01] <jeremy_> hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux
[01:01] <d3jake> Dr_wills, I think I know how that works, maybe not, but could we move to PMs? This is getting a bit messy for me to read.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> For the 'safest' install., install linux on the 2nd hd. and put the grub loader/mbr on the 2nd hd also. and set th bios to default to booting the 2nd hd first.. that way if you remove the hd later.. windows will be untouched. BUT that may not be doable from the installer.
[01:02] <intelikey> "The Location on the IDE cable defines which disk is master and which is slave."  ???
[01:03] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  as far as i know the one farthest  on the end is normally the master. the next one is the slave.
[01:03] <d3jake> That's with Cable select
[01:04] <d3jake> on many HDDs you use a jumper
[01:04] <Dr_willis> I alwyas use cable select now a days.. on the jumpers
[01:04] <d3jake> ahh,k
[01:04]  * intelikey thought the drive had jumpers that would define that, and if set to auto then the id number on the controler cards on the drives were used
[01:04] <Dr_willis> Even then. with CS.  i think the one on the farthese gets set to master, the other stes set to slave.
[01:04] <tekstacy> Some cables don't understand "cable select"
[01:05] <Dr_willis> The good old days. :)
[01:05] <d3jake> Dr_willis So, hopefully XP will not freak out if it is set to Slave?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  it MIGHT.. it mughgt not..
[01:05] <tekstacy> I had xp on a "slave" ide, worked fine
[01:05] <d3jake> eheh...
[01:06] <d3jake> did you install it when it was slave?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  just moving the allready installed hd of xp form master to slave.. MAY freak out windows
[01:06] <d3jake> that's my problem
[01:06] <zaza> !wikipedia Richard Matthew Stallman
[01:06] <d3jake> I'm not sure how badly it would freak out
[01:06] <Dr_willis> moving it around. will change the drive letters and freak out windows most likely
[01:06] <intelikey> M$ wont know where the disk is if you tell grub to reorder the drives.
[01:06] <Dr_willis> This is why i said keep windows as the master disk. and  linux as the slave disk
[01:07] <d3jake> therefore I need it Master, while my Linux HDD is slave, but I still need to boot into Linux to run the Grub instaler thingie
[01:07] <SpookyET> hi
[01:07] <d3jake> ello
[01:07] <Jucato> zaza: the channel bot is not for doing Google or Wikipedia searches
[01:07] <Dr_willis> d3jake,   You are making this into a bigger problem then it is.. i have my system set up exactly like that.. Grub just gets installed to the master hd in my case.
[01:07] <intelikey> i.e.   map        map             (hd0) (hd1)
[01:07] <intelikey>         map             (hd1) (hd0)
[01:08] <Dr_willis>  I dont need to mess wth much of anything. the installer knows to make a grub entry for linux, that boots it from the 2nd hd.
[01:08] <intelikey> then windows will think it's still on hda
[01:08] <Dr_willis> if you really MUST have windows on the slave , then you will proberly need to remap it like intelikey  said.
[01:08] <derdui_> has anybody an idea, if kdemod runs under kubuntu?
[01:08] <rootsnatch> i doubt it
[01:09] <rootsnatch> why do you want to run kdemod on kubuntu?
[01:09] <d3jake> okay, then, can I run the installer without the other Disc hooked up, and just tell it "Oh by the way, hda will be a Windows disk, and hdb a Linux?
[01:09] <SpookyET> I don't get why kde4 are reinventing compiz-fusion. Not only that I get less than half the frame rate and artifacts all over the place, the effects are crappy.
[01:09] <Regital> i have this problem with amarok
[01:09] <tekstacy> I moved my xp drive to the slave position and put a new drive as master (for size reasons), then installed linux on the master. Works fine
[01:09] <d3jake> good
[01:09] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  with out the other disk hooked  up - you will need to manually configure grugb.,  best to keep the other disk hooked up.
[01:09] <Regital> the window covers the covers the whole screen basically
[01:10] <Regital> and theres no ´minimize´ button
[01:10] <Regital> anyone know whats going on?
[01:10] <d3jake> Okay, so if it works properly, I'll hook up my XP disk as slave and restart... Thanks for the help so far!!
[01:10] <intelikey> d3jake grub is "pretty" flexable  and linux is extreemely flexable   and windows is.... windows.
[01:11] <d3jake> hehe
[01:11] <Jucato> Regital: Amarok might be running full screen.there are no maximize or close buttons either right?
[01:11] <Regital> Jucato, yeah... how do i disable the full screen?
[01:12] <Regital> ánd theres no ´file´ or ´edit´ or any of those
[01:12] <Jucato> press Alt+F3, from the menu that pops up, Advanced -> Fullscreen
[01:12] <Regital> no wait my bad
[01:12] <Regital> ok thanks
[01:12] <Regital> Jucato, nothing pops up
[01:12] <tekstacy> d3jake, just remember, with Windows, failure is not an option.
[01:13] <tekstacy> failure comes pre-installed
[01:13] <Regital> lool
[01:13] <Jucato> Regital: after pressing Alt+F3?
[01:13] <Regital> Jucato, yeah... i think it might pop up behind the window
[01:13] <Jucato> hm.. no...
[01:14] <Jucato> are you using something like Compiz?
[01:14] <Regital> yes i am
[01:14] <Regital> compiz fusionm
[01:14] <Regital> fusion*
[01:14] <Regital> on kubuntu 7.10
[01:14] <jeremy_> hello i need some advice as to why the ipod icon for my 3rd gen nano won't mount/show up on my desktop. i am using kubuntu 7.10 wtih libgpod 6.0 and amarok 1.4.8.. i know that there is no problem with amarok, so it has to be the ipod. if either the os/software/music player is the problem, which one is it and is there an alternative that works better with amarok/linux
[01:15] <Jucato> Regital: that could be the problem. things work differently in compiz-fusion. please try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:15] <Regital> ok
[01:16] <tekstacy> jeremy_, if nobody can help you here, you could try asing in #ubuntu.  type /join #ubuntu
[01:16] <tekstacy> um, or I guess you COULD click the highlighted stuff if you're lazy....
[01:17] <Jucato> jeremy_: won't show up on the desktop, but is it detected? does a popup appear when you insert it?
[01:17] <jeremy_> no
[01:17] <Jucato> !ipod
[01:17] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[01:17] <jeremy_> it says the file is loading but it never finishes
[01:18] <d3jake> Dr_willis: Alright, I have the other drive hooked up, though I can't see any of the files on it... Do you know of a walkthrough for getting Grub working properly, or do you have the time\want to walk me through it yourself?
[01:19] <intelikey> Dr_willis ok seems that it is as you said one connector is master and one slave on cables that support CSEL and mobo's that have pin 28 gounded.   other wise if two disks are set to CSEL and either the cable or the mobo do not support that then the controlers "fight" over the master possition,  and that can have verying results.
[01:21] <intelikey> CSEL is by no means new.  it's as old as IDE.   and i have yet to see an ide hdd that doesn't have jumpers.
[01:21] <d3jake> CSEL = ?
[01:21] <intelikey> cable select
[01:21] <d3jake> ah,k
[01:21] <intelikey> marked CSEL on the drive itself
[01:22] <tekstacy> intelikey, I have one in my desktop w/ no jumpers
[01:22] <intelikey> tekstacy you have an IDE disk in your lappy ?
[01:22] <tekstacy> no, sata. But I have a laptop ide in my desktop
[01:23] <intelikey> sorry   i don't know why i read laptop there.
[01:23] <shadowhywind> Strange problem, my caps,num,scroll lock light doesn't work anymore. Any one have any ideas?
[01:23]  * intelikey needs glasses
[01:24] <intelikey> ledcontrol shadowhywind
[01:25] <shadowhywind> intelikey: any reasons on why it would just stop working
[01:26] <intelikey> shadowhywind i suspect that some peace of code told them too        tleds - blinks keyboard LEDs for TX and RX network packets
[01:26] <tekstacy> intelikey, thx.  That looks like a neat toy
[01:26] <intelikey> tekstacy i thought that the second looked better  ^
[01:26] <shadowhywind> oh
[01:27] <shadowhywind> any advice on how to use ledcontrol
[01:27] <rootsnatch> i have never used it before
[01:27] <intelikey> never used it yet myself.   but i bet the manpage will help
[01:28] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  this is why i said to have both drives hooked up during the install. :)  You will now have to manually edit the menu.lst for a proper entry to boot the windows drive. There  is an examplke entry in the file for windows on the FIRST hard drive. (master) but you decided to not do that..
[01:28] <shadowhywind> a random rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that should control some mouse stuff wouldn't make the led's stop working right?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> d3jake, as for ;seeing files' on the drive. the thing MUST be mounted somewher. or linux will not see it at all.
[01:28] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  that has nothing to do with grub :)
[01:29] <mithraic> So I'm back where I'd started: running 'xrandr -o left' freezes my system.
[01:29] <tekstacy> crap, gtg.    Thanks for the help everyone
[01:29] <mithraic> Whoops, wrong channel.
[01:30] <d3jake> I know, I was just commenting about it... It saved me a bit of headache (previous bad experiance of having to reinstall XP, wiping out Grub, and having to reinstall Linux to get it back due to my limited Linux\Grub knowlage).
[01:30] <intelikey> konqueror media:///
[01:31] <intelikey> !grub > d3jake
[01:31] <intelikey> maybe that page will help
[01:31] <d3jake> neat, thanks
[01:31] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  that entry is for windows on the first hd.  - it may need tweaking.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  some mb's have a bios feature that lets you pick what hd to boot  - quickly :)  you could boot the other hd that way also.
[01:32] <d3jake> true
[01:32] <Dr_willis> I can hit F11 for a fast 'boot what disk' menu on thix box.
[01:32] <d3jake> though a menu would be quicker than diving into the BIOS, though an option certainly
[01:33] <Dr_willis> d3jake,  i do have a menu :)
[01:33] <d3jake> O.o
[01:33] <Dr_willis> and i use it at times. heh..
[01:33] <Dr_willis> nice feature of the bios
[01:33] <d3jake> neat...
[01:33]  * intelikey just sets up a list of possable disks to boot in his boot loader on each disk....  can bounce from MBR/boot loader to MBR/boot loader all day if i want.
[01:35] <intelikey> grub example.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d29b61310
[01:36] <SpookyET> my applications.menu has gone missing. how do you recreate it
[01:36] <d3jake> Thanks for all the help, a friend of mine was right when he sais that Ubuntu has alot of help with it (or Kubuntu in my case.)
[01:37] <intelikey> examples of multiple windows boots from grub   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d31e69267
[01:37] <lancerocke> Hi all
[01:38] <intelikey> note that in that last example both windows installs think they are on primary master drive.
[01:38] <mefisto__> has anyone used qink (displays printer ink levels) successfully?
[01:38] <lancerocke> Anybody have any idea why when I set my panel to 24px high on KDE it doesnt really set itself at 24, leaving the KDE logo higher than 24 px and rendering the bar weird looking?
[01:39] <intelikey> qink   just sounds wrong somehow...
[01:39] <d3jake> I think I'm ready to edit my menu.lst, but I'm looking up the kernel. entry...
[01:39] <SpookyET> How do you recreate '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu'
[01:40] <mefisto__> intelikey: there's another called kink, I think that's worse
[01:40] <intelikey> SpookyET maybe sudo update-menus
[01:40] <intelikey> mefisto__ look about the same to me...   ;/
[01:40] <SpookyET> intelikey: no such command
[01:41] <intelikey> tab complete it
[01:41] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$dell.~] update-menus
[01:41] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$dell.~]
[01:41] <intelikey> works here.
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[01:42] <intelikey> back later maybe.
[01:43] <lancerocke> Anybody have any idea why when I set my panel to 24px high on KDE*4* it doesn't really set itself at 24, leaving the KDE logo higher than 24 px and rendering the bar weird looking?
[01:49] <leo_rockw> greetings and salutations
[01:49] <ehc> I am trying to use spanish accents with alt and my numpad but nothing it isn't working. Can I enable this somehow?
[01:49] <leo_rockw> ehc: try alt gr and the letter (ie. alt gr + a = á)
[01:50] <ehc> leo_rockw,  gr?
[01:50] <leo_rockw> ehc: i believe that's how it's called in spanish keyboards. it's the right alt
[01:50] <leo_rockw> ehc: if you have your keyboard set up as us intl or smth like that, it is going to work (that's how i set mine up)
[01:51] <ehc> leo_rockw, mine isn't setup as spanish or international
[01:51] <leo_rockw> ehc: do you have a US keyboard?
[01:51] <leo_rockw> ehc: if so, set it up as US intl in order to use the tildes
[01:51] <ehc> leo_rockw, yeah US
[01:51] <ehc> leo_rockw, okay
[01:51] <ehc> that makes sense
[01:51] <paarth> hello, I was adding some applets to the Panel and now my applications don't have the icons in the taskbar (like pidgen and Amarok). I put the skim panel applet on there but it hasn't been working. could someone tell me how to make them appear again?
[01:52] <leo_rockw> ehc: then ' and " will be deadkeys
[01:52] <leo_rockw> ehc: you'll have to put a space after pressing those.
[01:54] <paarth> test
[02:00] <vladanian> Hey guys, I'm using ubuntu w/ gnome, and I want to control the font in kde apps. Kcontrol does the trick for kde3 apps, but I can't figure out how to control the font for kde4 apps -- any pointers?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> How do I display visualizations in full screen in Amarok ( ProjectM ) ?
[02:02] <leo_rockw> vladanian: ./usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings
[02:03] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: right click on it
[02:03] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, Thanks
[02:03] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: np
[02:04] <vladanian> leo_rockw: There is no option for fonts in there
[02:05] <leo_rockw> vladanian: try looking a lil harder, i know you can
[02:06] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, When I do that It just scales the visuals to fit the screen rather than doing them at full rez
[02:06] <d3jake> crud
[02:07] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: yeah... you asked how to put them in full screen.
[02:07] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: idk how to change the resolution. i don't even know if that's possible.
[02:07] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, But for instance, if the window with the visuals was 10 pixels by 10 pixels then in full screen I will get 100 HUGE pixels of visualization :)
[02:08] <Jordan_U> leo_rockw, There has to be a way around that huge limitation :)
[02:08] <vladanian> leo_rockw: there are two items under look and feel: Appearance and Notifications. Within appearance, the only thing available to customize is icons
[02:08] <d3jake> hehe
[02:09] <leo_rockw> Jordan_U: i don't use visualizations that much.
[02:10] <leo_rockw> vladanian: my kde is in spanish, otherwise i'll give you the captions of the buttons
[02:11] <d3jake> With this bit from my menu.lst from my grub directory, does the first number mean the drive, and the second partition number?(hd0,0)
[02:11] <rootsnatch> yep
[02:11] <d3jake> yay!
[02:11] <d3jake> I is smart...
[02:12] <d3jake> Kinda makes me feel good when I can crawl into a file like that and edit it, instead of M$ controling the boot with Windohs...
[02:15] <intelikey> d3jake welsome to the FOSS ideology/mind set
[02:15] <d3jake> FOSS? I should know that acronym
[02:15] <d3jake> ...
[02:16] <intelikey> Free Open Source Software
[02:16] <d3jake> ahh,k
[02:16] <leo_rockw> d3jake: you control the OS instead of the OS controlling you
[02:17] <d3jake> I'm trying to find the proper menu.lst entry for booting XP..
[02:17] <d3jake> very true
[02:17] <Stoffer> I don't suppose there's any way of making the subtitles in kaffeine larger is there?
[02:17] <d3jake> I'd hate to edit my menu/lst and mess up the whole thing
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> d3jake: there is an example int he menu.lst... just replace the partition numbres
[02:18] <d3jake> It can't be that simple....
[02:18] <d3jake> or..?
[02:18] <intelikey> d3jake   sudo update-grub   "might" add the entry for you ?
[02:18] <leo_rockw> Stoffer: i think you can from the xine preferences
[02:18] <d3jake> one way to find out
[02:18] <intelikey> d3jake and yes it can be that simple.
[02:18] <Stoffer> leo_rockw, ah, yes, I had a suspicion that kaffiene was a frontend of xine...
[02:19] <leo_rockw> Stoffer: you can access the preferences from kaffeine itself
[02:19] <Stoffer> leo_rockw, hmm... I didn't see anything about sub size in the kaffiene settings
[02:20] <leo_rockw> Stoffer: go to preferences > xine engine parameters (or smth like that , my kde is not in english)
[02:20] <d3jake> Doesn't look like that made the new entry, I'll just copy the example entry and edit it
[02:21] <Stoffer> leo_rockw, found it, thanks
[02:22] <d3jake> Arg, gotta find a way to let Kate edit the menu.lst, where do I stick a sudo....
[02:23] <d3jake> its sad when I can figure things out after I ask how to do them...
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> d3jake: "kdesudo kate file
[02:24] <intelikey> d3jake only thing that messes up most peoples head is that grub numbers hdds 0-* not 1-*    or as the linux standard is a-*   and partitions are a sub set of the number   i.e.  /dev/hda1  would look like this in grub (hd0,0)   while /dev/hdb5 might be (hd1,1)        oh and for the permissions issue use  kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:24] <d3jake> hmm.. I opened a console and typed sudo kate, and that worked
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo
[02:24] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[02:24] <jessica> hi
[02:25] <d3jake> ello
[02:25] <cable5> how in the world do i burn a dvd movie with linux?
[02:26] <cable5> nothing ive seen does it right
[02:26] <jessica> use the burning software that comes with kubuntu
[02:26] <intelikey> k3b
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[02:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:26] <cable5> k3b doesn't transcode movies
[02:27] <jessica> playing DVD's you can use something like vlc
[02:27] <jessica> burning can be very tempromental
[02:28] <intelikey> you can use vlc in the console to watch movies...     err i can.
[02:28] <d3jake> Edited my menu.lst, rebooting to see if it'll work...
[02:28] <jessica> i know i have just finished watching a movie using vlx
[02:28] <jessica> *vlc
[02:28] <cable5> but what do i burn a movie with?
[02:28] <cable5> as in .avi?
[02:28] <cable5> nothing here transcodes
[02:28] <intelikey> jessica svgalibs ?
[02:28] <jessica> do you have the file on your hard drive or are you copying it
[02:29] <cable5> file my drive
[02:29] <intelikey> that sentance no verb
[02:30] <jessica> i wouldnt have any idea i have never tried
[02:30] <intelikey> !transcode
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <jessica> carnt you just use K3D
[02:31] <intelikey> B
[02:33] <leo_rockw> cable5: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:33] <cable5> leo_rockw, get an .avi movie to transcode and burn
[02:33] <intelikey> avi file to playable dvd
[02:34] <cable5> i just tried tovid, but it messed up the aspect
[02:34] <leo_rockw> can't avidemux do that?
[02:34] <intelikey> !info avidemux
[02:34] <ubotu> avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[02:34] <leo_rockw> you may need to use a dvd authoring program
[02:35] <leo_rockw> like qdvdauthor (which i believe is just a frontend anyway)
[02:35] <cable5> all the ones ive been trying are really lame
[02:35] <cable5> ive tried qdvdauthor
[02:35] <cable5> it didn't transcode correctly
[02:35] <jessica> dose anyone know if hardy is very stable yet
[02:36] <jessica> i tryed it about a week ago but had to go back to gutsy as nothing worked with it but there was a lot of updates i hird
[02:36] <leo_rockw> hardy won't even be lts when it is finally released... ¬¬
[02:36] <mefisto__> cable5: have you tried DeVeDe?
[02:36] <cable5> yes, just now
[02:36] <cable5> its a hard drive hog
[02:36] <intelikey> jessica "very stable" and ubuntu in one sentance ???      you're not thinking debian by any chance ?
[02:36] <leo_rockw> intelikey: lol
[02:36] <cable5> wants me to have 10 gigs free, just so i can transcode one movie
[02:37] <leo_rockw> cable5: so?
[02:37] <mefisto__> cable5: there's also mandvd
[02:37] <cable5> leo_rockw, im on a 40 gig HD, heh
[02:37] <cable5> i don't have that kind of space to spare
[02:38] <leo_rockw> cable5: dvd transcoding just takes up a lot of space
[02:38] <cable5> mefisto__, i dont think ive tried mandvd
[02:38] <jessica> i think its the 24th of april hardys stable release isnt it
[02:38] <leo_rockw> jessica: yes. and 16 the RC i think.
[02:38] <mefisto__> cable5: if you don't have the disk space, you may as well give up now
[02:38] <cable5> mefisto__, 10 gigs is outrageous
[02:38] <intelikey> jessica that's the schedule   but it's not chisseled in stone
[02:39] <cable5> when i use nero in windows it transcodes on the fly and burns off the resulting dvd disk structure
[02:39] <leo_rockw> cable5: a dvd is 4.38gb and you need more room for tmps
[02:39] <cable5> using ZERO space
[02:39] <jessica> yes i know, i just want some of the fetures hardy offers
[02:39] <intelikey> jessica ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <leo_rockw> d3jake: did it work?
[02:39] <d3jake> Didn't quite work, good news is that I could still boot to my Linux install
[02:39] <intelikey> they'll know more than most of us.
[02:40] <mefisto__> cable5: but where is the "resulting dvd disk structure" stored? on hard disk, right?
[02:40] <d3jake> I selected the XP entry, and it just put up "Starting...." and stayed there
[02:40] <d3jake> maybe I should leave it hang longer
[02:40] <cable5> mefisto__, the disk structure doesn't really need to be stored anywhere, just created
[02:40] <cable5> the mpeg-4 files are all that reallly need storage, and they're like 800 megs at most
[02:41] <intelikey> d3jake you could pastebin the output of    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device* ;sudo fdisk -l
[02:41] <leo_rockw> cable5: 800mb? lol
[02:41] <mefisto__> cable5: ???? a disk structure that is stored in memory?
[02:41] <leo_rockw> cable5: a dvd is 4.38gb
[02:41] <cable5> i know these things
[02:41] <cable5> im saying its done on the fly
[02:41] <d3jake> sure
[02:42] <jessica> is there a way to get a graphical grub boot loader on kubuntu
[02:42] <cable5> mandvd seems nice
[02:42] <cable5> testing that
[02:42] <intelikey> jessica you can set a background pic.
[02:43] <intelikey> !grub | jessica on one of these pages there is a howto
[02:43] <ubotu> jessica on one of these pages there is a howto: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:43] <d3jake> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59888/
[02:43] <jessica> thanks
[02:44] <intelikey> cable5 did you look at kino ?
[02:46] <intelikey> ok d3jake you need to add the device   see line 151 of your pastebin  only one drive listed in the /boot/grub/device* file      and you will probably want to remap the drive in the menu.lst with the "map" keyword as i posted earler.
[02:46] <d3jake> okay, lemme see...
[02:47] <d3jake> if you posted it before I rejoined, I don't have that logged...
[02:48] <intelikey> i'll repost it.  but first lets edit the device.map file     kdesudo kate /boot/grub/devic*      add the line        (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[02:48] <d3jake> Thanks!
[02:48] <michael> Good Evening every body
[02:48] <michael> Can any body tell me
[02:49] <leo_rockw> good evening michael
[02:49] <michael> Wich version of Oracle is butter to install in Ubuntu
[02:49] <mefisto__> cable5: if you have free space on a windows partition, you could use that as temp disk space for whichever program you are using
[02:49] <michael> leo_rockw: is nice to meet you
[02:49] <d3jake> Saved.
[02:49] <michael> I am new using ubuntu
[02:49] <michael> And i like it very much
[02:49] <intelikey> d3jake next in the file menu.lst      at line 147  add the following two lines
[02:49] <intelikey>         map             (hd0) (hd1)
[02:49] <intelikey>         map             (hd1) (hd0)
[02:49] <leo_rockw> michael: nice meeting you too. unfortunately i don't use databases.
[02:50] <cable5> mefisto__, i did away with my windows partition, heh
[02:50]  * cable5 is now SINGLE booting
[02:50] <michael> leo_rockw: Could you tell me who can help me with that please??
[02:50] <leo_rockw> michael: either here or in #ubuntu
[02:50] <mefisto__> cable5: and you still don't have 10gb to spare on a 40gb disk?
[02:50] <intelikey> d3jake between the   root            (hd1,0)     and the     makeactive
[02:51] <d3jake> Okay
[02:51] <leo_rockw> mefisto__: i don't have 1gb to spare on a 90gb partition... :-P
[02:51] <d3jake> Okay, saved
[02:51] <norv> leo_rockw: I've heard someone say that BDB was better than oracle. But I think they have different purposes
[02:51] <michael> The only thing i need to uninstall windows xp from my pc is install oracle, in ubuntu
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> !oracle
[02:52] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[02:52] <michael> leo_rockw: thank a lot
[02:52] <d3jake> Should it work now?
[02:52] <michael> thank you ubotu
[02:52] <intelikey> d3jake also to keep "update-grub" from removing that entry   move the line " ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST "    to just above   " title           Windows XP Professional"
[02:53] <intelikey> then it "should" work    yes d3jake
[02:53] <d3jake> Okay, saved and Thanks!
[02:53] <d3jake> I'l try it out now
[02:53] <intelikey> hey root
[02:54] <michael> thanks I think that will work
[02:54] <nosrednaekim>  /whois root | hack-kit
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> ^)^
[02:54] <linuxguymarshall> After I upgrade to KDE 4 how to I get rid of all the KDE 3.x programs?
[02:54] <michael> I will read a little so i can find the solution to my problem
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> linuxguymarshall: you may want to keep them around,some kde3 programs do not yet have a kde4 alternative
[02:56] <linuxguymarshall> But things like Konquerer
[02:56] <linuxguymarshall> They just stick around and annoy me
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> ah.... well, you can uninstall them if you like
[02:56] <norv> you'll find that the apps don't really take much space, it's the deps
[02:57] <norv> so uninstall konqueror 3 and free maybe.. a few megs?
[02:57] <linuxguymarshall> I don't care about space. It's really just a tiny nucience to keep them in my menu
[02:57] <BluesKaj> I have a cli command that starts my Tivo server application pyTivo. i'd like it to autostart without having to use the cli ,like a server should ..any suggestions
[02:57] <leo_rockw> BluesKaj: add it to init.d
[02:58] <norv> linuxguymarshall: remove the menu items, that's fast and easy
[02:58]  * leo_rockw will be afk
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: rc,d
[02:59] <BluesKaj> leo_rockw, you make it seem so easy , i'm sure the'e more to it than just adding a cli command in init.d
[02:59] <linuxguymarshall> Yeah, I couldn't find any options to remove them. Sorry i'm new to KDE
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> rc.d
[02:59] <norv> linuxguymarshall: right click K menu->Menu Editor
[02:59] <linuxguymarshall> Thanks
[03:00] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, pls explain in bit more detail  :)
[03:01] <michael> Bodys can any body help step by step to install oracle database 9i or 10g not Express Edition in Ubuntu??
[03:01] <michael> Bodys can any body help me step by step to install oracle database 9i or 10g not Express Edition in Ubuntu??
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat
[03:02] <michael> Daisuke:
[03:02] <michael> I need to install Oracle Database 9i or 10g in Ubuntu
[03:02] <norv> michael: is there a reason you need that specific version?
[03:03] <michael> yes because with those version I am working in the University
[03:03] <michael> but if you can installed other version
[03:03] <intelikey> hmmm d3jake not back yet....   that could be good and that could be bad... ;/
[03:03] <norv> michael: meh, perhaps I should avoid computer science field, then
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: man /etc/rc.local
[03:03] <michael> in wich i can work with Sqlplus without problem is ok to
[03:04] <michael> in wich i can work with Sqlplus without problem is ok too
[03:04] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, thx
[03:05] <michael> norv why you say that??
[03:06] <norv> michael: well, I thought all I'd need from a db was what libdb and mysql/postgresql did
[03:06] <d3jake> well....
[03:06] <d3jake> it worked, kinda
[03:07]  * intelikey hides
[03:07] <d3jake> hehe
[03:07] <norv> michael: it says sqlplus is equivalent to mysql, psql, etc.. not sure if those alternate solutions would work
[03:07] <intelikey> d3jake can you define "kinda" ?
[03:07] <michael> sorry but not
[03:07] <d3jake> It will boot into Windows without WIndohs caring that its a slave, but
[03:07] <d3jake> (I'm getting there :p)
[03:07] <michael> because i need to practice in PL/Sql
[03:08] <michael> I mean I need Oracle
[03:08] <michael> I have been looking in google
[03:08] <michael> for several weeks
[03:08] <michael> and nothing anything help me
[03:08] <michael> I mean nothing help me
[03:08] <d3jake> But my hardware acted a bit funky (POST not getting to the HDD detection phase, so I reset it, and when I got to Grub I let it time out to the default(kubuntu) but when it started, before getting to the loading screen, it gave me some errors, which were:
[03:08] <norv> michael: heh, I pretty much put no logic in database. I see what you need though
[03:09] <michael> norv I am sorry what did you say???
[03:09] <d3jake> [   89.736406] CPU 0:Machine Check exception 4 Bank4:b20000079f0f
[03:09] <michael> I didnt understand what you say
[03:09] <d3jake> [90.134176]TSC 2e3589424c
[03:09] <norv> michael: PL/SQL is a procedural extension to sql. Procedural, as in it's like embedding a whole programming language
[03:10] <d3jake> [90.134273] Kernal Panic- not syncing: Machine check
[03:10] <michael> So??
[03:10] <d3jake> so I shut down, unplugged the second HDD (XP Disk), and here I am
[03:11] <d3jake> does that help at all intelikey?
[03:11] <intelikey> no
[03:11] <norv> michael: so? you are asking for a proprietary extension, which it's likely /nobody/ will ever provide
[03:11] <d3jake> figures...
[03:11] <intelikey> well i understand what you are saying   but i don't see a reason for it...
[03:11] <mgif573> Anyone can help me to play FOX on Demand in Ubuntu
[03:11] <michael> You mean is that goes againts the laws???
[03:11] <d3jake> Neither do it, it seems that its a bit tempermental for some reason.
[03:12] <intelikey> d3jake that's a ram error
[03:12] <michael> You mean that goes againts the laws???
[03:12] <d3jake> O.o
[03:12] <norv> michael: meaning it's unlikely someone would have...
[03:12] <mgif573> I have instaled ies4Linux and wine
[03:12] <michael> Ok then what do you recommend me??
[03:12] <michael> what should I do??
[03:13] <norv> michael: run in emulation. YAY, database in emulation, what fun. but it'll work
[03:13] <michael> norv Do you speak Spanish??
[03:14] <d3jake> Alright, enough fun for tonight. Thanks alot for the help Intelikey, and hopefully I won't need your help again (if you know what I mean...)
[03:14] <norv> michael: un poco. go to #kubuntu-es
[03:14] <michael> ok
[03:15] <mgif573> yo tambien
[03:15] <mgif573> :P
[03:16] <michael> mgif573: Hablas español???
[03:16] <mgif573> asi es
[03:17] <intelikey> d3jake save that error message for #kernel    they might know something that would help you.
[03:17] <michael> Necesito ayuda para instalar oracle 9i o 10g en ubuntu me pudieras ayudar??
[03:17] <mgif573> Pues, soy newbie
[03:17] <mgif573> en que te atoraste?
[03:18] <michael> Pues que no quiero una version express que es la que explican alli
[03:18] <michael> sino quiero 9i o 10g
[03:18] <d3jake> Ah, okay, thanks
[03:18] <intelikey> d3jake i'm seeing several things about that on google.com/linux     but nothing decisive
[03:18] <d3jake> so it could still be any number of things?
[03:19] <mgif573> oh entonces quieres poder conectar a una DB usando Linux o quieres hacer un Server?
[03:19] <NickPresta> !es | mgif573
[03:19] <ubotu> mgif573: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:19] <michael> quiero hacer un server
[03:19] <intelikey> d3jake but it's definitely kernel + hardware   related   and thus probably better question for   #kernel   than  #kubuntu
[03:19] <michael> quiero sencillamente instalar la base de datos en ubuntu
[03:19] <michael> y luego
[03:20] <intelikey> d3jake sorry i can't do more there.
[03:20] <michael> estudiar en la misma maquina conectandome con un cliente
[03:20] <Ch1ppy> hey, I was having some troubles with kopete and so I want to try to remove all my kopete configuration and start again with a clean plate, but I can't seem to find where the config is... I've tried removing ~/.kopete and ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete* with no luck... can anyone tell me where the other configuration is
[03:20] <Ch1ppy> ?
[03:21] <michael> ch1ppy what was the problem you had??
[03:21] <mgif573> michael
[03:21] <michael> si??
[03:21] <mgif573> checa esta pagina http://www.pythian.com/blogs/549/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-linux-704
[03:21] <michael> yo uso ubuntu kubuntu 7.10 Gubsy Gibson
[03:21] <intelikey> d3jake "<d3jake> so it could still be any number of things?"   yeah.    but it is a kernel issue.    possably hardware failing and possably just a bug,   i can't really narrow the field there.
[03:21] <michael> digo
[03:22] <michael> ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibson
[03:22] <mgif573> pues es casi lo mismo
[03:22] <michael> amd 64
[03:22] <Ch1ppy> michael: several problems with msn, such as it not recognizing when I had added an MSN contact - they just wouldn't show up when I restarted kopete after adding them, but the contact was there when I used other programs
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !english
[03:22] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !it
[03:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:22] <BluesKaj> !pt
[03:22] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[03:22] <BluesKaj> that should cover it
[03:22] <mgif573> pues he usado manuales de otras versiones en ubuntu 7.10
[03:23] <intelikey> well i need to went.    good luck with it d3jake.
[03:23] <BluesKaj> guess not
[03:23] <mgif573> http://www.pythian.com/blogs/654/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon
[03:23] <d3jake> cya
[03:23] <mgif573> ahi esta para la 7.10
[03:23] <michael> Ch1ppy you should enter to Application/add or remove programs them
[03:23] <Jsn0327> using network manager, how to disconnect from a wireless network once you are connected?
[03:23] <michael> put Kopete and mark it to remove it
[03:24] <michael> that's all
[03:24] <michael> ok gracias
[03:24] <BluesKaj> sacktime , nite folks
[03:24] <Ch1ppy> michael: that will not remove the configuration... I wish to remove all the personal configuration and start again, as if it was the first time I had run kopete
[03:25] <michael> Ch1ppy then I dont know, try looking in google
[03:25] <Ch1ppy> nevermind, found it after a lot of locate'ing
[03:26] <cable5> !mandvd
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mandvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <michael> mgif513 gracias, pero la version que necesito expecificamente es 10g
[03:26] <michael> o 9i
[03:27] <michael> ya que 11g me obligaria a instalar un servidor de aplicaciones
[03:27] <michael> y todo eso
[03:27] <michael> y no quiero hacerlo, solo instalar la base de datos y un cliente y listo
[03:27] <michael> no instalar base de datos, cliente y servidor de aplicaciones entiendes??
[03:28] <matt1728> !ipod
[03:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:31] <matt1728> anyone know how to mount an ipod?
[03:35] <foibles> join #ubuntu
[03:36] <Jsn0327> does anyone know how to disconnect from a wireless network in network manager?
[03:36] <kgoetz> michael: this is an english channel.
[03:37] <kgoetz> matt1728: depending on which generation it may or may not mount propperly
[03:37]  * kgoetz isnt familar with them though
[03:38] <matt1728> ahh i got to mount but cant transfer
[03:38] <matt1728> i guess windows will be needed yet still
[03:39] <phaedru1> matt1728: if you have a windows formatted ipod (VFAT ystem ), you should be able to mount it easily over USB and should be aboe to use amarok / gtkpod
[03:41] <matt1728> amarok doesnt seem to want
[03:41] <matt1728> to transfer
[03:41] <matt1728> i will try gtkpod
[03:41] <kgoetz> apple change the protocol at whim, so if its a new one your version of kubuntu may not support it yet
[03:42] <phaedru1> Check out this linux journal article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[03:44] <Jsn0327> is there a version of WICD for gusty?
[03:49] <mgif573> #ubuntu-es
[03:55] <sgrover> Trying to play a DVD in my puter.  Getting "The source  can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data
[03:55] <Tonren> I have a TON of photos of events in different subfolders of one top folder, and I want to be able to project a slideshow of all of them.  What's a slideshow image viewer that can take images recursively in a directory hierarchy?
[03:56] <sgrover> I have libdvdcss installed and am a member of the video group... and I can open the disk and browse the files... any suggestions?
[03:56] <sgrover> btw, using Kaffeine with xine
[03:56] <sgrover> Tonren: you can do that with the screen saver...
[03:57] <Tonren> sgrover: Hmm, that's kind of a weird solution.  It'd be really nice if there was an app where I could configure delay times and zoom options and stuff.
[03:58] <sgrover> Tonren: I've never had to do that so haven't looked at it.  But I do something similar with my desktop and screensaver....
[03:58] <Tonren> I'll look into the screensaver thing; I'm still going to look for an app, though
[03:58] <sgrover> Sounds like what you are after is a presentation file... but auto add your files.
[03:59] <Tonren> sgrover: It seems like there ought to be a program out there that just looks in subdirectories.  It isn't that complicated...
[03:59] <Jsn0327> how do you add an app to startup in kbuntu?  it says to goto System > Preferences > Sessions but i can't find it.
[03:59] <sgrover> Tonren: agreed - I'm sure there is something available.
[04:00] <Tonren> Jsn0327: Do you know how to use the command line?
[04:00] <Jsn0327> yeah
[04:00] <Tonren> Jsn0327: Open a terminal, type "cd .kde/Autostart", then type "ln -s [thing-you-want-to-start]"
[04:00] <Jsn0327> cool thanks
[04:01] <Tonren> So, if you wanted to auto-start firefox, for example, you could type "which firefox" to see that it is /usr/bin/firefox, and you'd type "ln -s /usr/bin/firefox" once you're in ~/.kde/Autostart .
[04:01] <Tonren> Jsn0327: np
[04:03] <matt1728> gtk!pod
[04:03] <matt1728> !gtkpod
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <nick_> matt1728:  so how are you
[04:04] <matt1728> good how about you
[04:04] <nick_> im good
[04:05] <nick_> i just not want to sleep
[04:05] <matt1728> lol
[04:05] <prince_jammys> !info gtkpod
[04:05] <nick_> and all my msn list is away :(
[04:05] <ubotu> gtkpod (source: gtkpod): manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[04:05] <matt1728> lol
[04:05] <matt1728> brb have to walk the dog
[04:05] <nick_> loll i just done that :P
[04:05] <nick_> later then
[04:07] <nick_> can i have kde 4 on my 7.10 ?
[04:09] <kgoetz> !kde4
[04:09] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:10] <nick_> thnaks
[04:11] <kgoetz> np
[04:12] <matt1728> does anyone know how to add mp3 and m4a support to gtkpod?>
[04:14] <nick_> nah
[04:14] <nick_> sorry dude
[04:15] <nick_> after add the apt get kde4 i have to do what ?
[04:18] <jarn> Is there a way to check where my various partitions are mounted?
[04:19] <kgoetz> jarn: 'mount'
[04:19] <jarn> kgoetz: Hah, cool, thanks. I've used mount plenty of times to... mount things... but didn't know it could do that!
[04:20] <kgoetz> jarn: hehe :) np
[04:21] <jarn> Okay, I just hooked up a new external hard drive that I bought that came pre-formatted as ntfs. Obviously, I don't like that. When I try to format it to ext3, however, gparted tells me it's in use. When I type moutn, it's not listed as being mounted.
[04:25] <mefisto__> nick_: your question doesn't make sense. have you installed kde4-core ?
[04:26] <matt1728> is there a force quit command in linux?
[04:27] <mefisto__> matt1728: sudo killall program-name
[04:27] <matt1728> thanks
[04:27] <mefisto__> matt1728: or alt-esc, then search the list for the prog
[04:28] <matt1728> killall worked fine
[04:28] <matt1728> thanks
[04:28] <azzco> Does anyone know how to use espeak with ktts?
[04:28] <foibles> does anyone here know how i can install unreal tournament GOTY edition?
[04:29] <foibles> under linux
[04:29] <azzco> foibles: I do ;)
[04:29] <azzco> foibles: I use wine for it right now though
[04:29] <foibles> im a-searchin' and searchin for the answer
[04:29] <foibles> azzco, i don't want to use wine
[04:29] <azzco> foibles: what have you done so far then?
[04:29] <foibles> azzco, downloaded several scripts that don't run
[04:29] <foibles> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament
[04:29] <foibles> tried that
[04:29] <foibles> didn't work
[04:30] <azzco> One sec and I'll read a bit on it
[04:30] <azzco> You didn't get the install dialog to open?
[04:30] <azzco> Do you have the gtk libs installed?
[04:31] <azzco> What happens when you "./unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run"?
[04:32] <foibles> azzco, a couple of errors
[04:32] <foibles> "directory not found" blah blah
[04:32] <azzco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:32] <azzco> Paste the erros there and give me the link ;)
[04:33] <mefisto__> if I install kde4 alongside gutsy kde3, will kde3 default apps, etc remain untouched?
[04:34] <azzco> mefisto__:  As I experienced it the default kde3 apps still remained installed but the kde4 apps was used in KDE3.5... might have been just me (Installed kubuntu from the kde4 livecd)
[04:34] <foibles> azzco, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59898/
[04:35] <azzco> foibles: write "chmod +x unreal" then press tab for autocompletition, you ca also try the command "ls" to see if the file actually is there
[04:37] <azzco> mefisto__: I think that you might get better answers in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:37] <mefisto__> azzco: still waiting on a response there
[04:38] <azzco> Ahh okay mefisto__, just wanted to make sure you knew about that channel
[04:38] <vikku> can i play wmv files in mplayer ?
[04:39] <azzco> foibles: How's it going now? if you're not sure the download went okay try "wget http://www.liflg.org/?what=dl&catid=6&gameid=51&filename=unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run" instead
[04:43] <mefisto__> vikku: if you have the right codecs, and the wmv is not encoded with DRM, yes
[04:46] <foibles> azzco, that helps
[04:46] <azzco> foibles: downloading now?
[04:46] <foibles> yeah
[04:46] <azzco> Did you try the chmod and ./ steps yet?
[04:51] <foibles> azzco, i ain't understanding
[04:52] <azzco> foibles: type "chmod +x unr" then press tab, if you get the full filename just press enter ;)
[04:58] <azzco> foibles: Don't be afraid to ask for help, how's it going BTW?
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> azzco, i've found it actually works better using the multilanguage installer.  and i hope he realizes that sound is going to be a royal pain
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> as the game will ONLY use OSS
[05:00] <foibles> azzco, i give up
[05:00] <foibles> i don't exactly know what it does
[05:00] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: aoss wrapper
[05:00] <foibles> what does the script even do?
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> azzco, if only it were that simple
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> foibles, it installs the game.
[05:00] <azzco> foibles: The script is for installing ;)
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> you do need original cds, of course
[05:00] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: It was that simple for me, except that I had problems with my specific soundcard, that's why I'm using wine ATM
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> azzco, usually, using the aoss wrapper, if nothing else is using the sound subsystem, it's no problem
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> well, apparently something was *always* using ity
[05:01] <azzco> foibles: How far did you get?
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> so i would have to log out and log in, launching UT before any other apps
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> just to get sound
[05:02] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: Eeew, never had that problem myself, I have a realtek thingy built in sound, it made the sound sound very weird
[05:03] <foibles> Daisuke_Ido, azzco what do i do once the script is done
[05:03] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: Highpitch, low quality (I mean like under 2k Hz)
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> azzco, eww as well :\
[05:03] <azzco> foibles: try to type ut in a konsole
[05:03] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: Indeed... only reason I use wine -_-
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine it works just as well under wine
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> probably more reliably
[05:04] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: Works great under wine... actually alot of things are better, except for the graphics speed
[05:04] <azzco> More features working, les likeky that you encounter weird texture bugs, etc etc
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> actually, that would probably be an improvement
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> it ran far too fast natively
[05:05] <azzco> Yeah I remeber that it did that a few times for me.
[05:06] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: Still have it installed?
[05:06] <foibles> azzco, doesn't seem to do it
[05:06] <foibles> so i dl the script, then just play with the cd in the drive?
[05:06] <azzco> foibles: Do you get any erros thrown back at you?
[05:06] <foibles> azzco, says command not found
[05:07] <azzco> foibles: the script install the game from the CD to the HD, you should be able to run ut by typing ut in the console after installation.
[05:07] <azzco> Okay =s Then the install was probably not successfull
[05:07] <foibles> azzco, ah, then i just wasn't doing it right
[05:17] <voss749> Hey guys I love the new kde 4
[05:18] <voss749> Anyone awake?
[05:31] <ForgeAus> hey still getting QInputContext: no input method context available issues
[05:31] <ForgeAus> even when I installed SKIM, that input method thingy
[05:32] <ForgeAus> assuming its part of whats missing from AndLinux how do I go about tracking it down/disabling it?
[05:32] <foibles> azzco, i give up
[05:32] <foibles> just going wine
[05:32] <ForgeAus> foibles?
[05:33] <ForgeAus> what u giving up on?
[05:33] <foibles> installing unreal tournament under linux
[05:33] <foibles> using a script
[05:33] <ForgeAus> oh IC
[05:33] <ForgeAus> I doubt I'd be any help there
[05:33] <ForgeAus> hmm I have unreal tourney somewhere...
[05:33] <ForgeAus> shoulda sold the damn thing ages ago :)
[05:35] <Evolution2> hey guys, I have ext3drives installed in windows but recently when I try to access my kubuntu partition windows tells me that it wants to format the drive
[05:36] <Evolution2> any ideas
[05:36] <foibles> Evolution2, windows can't read anything but ntfs and fat32
[05:37] <Evolution2> foibles: but it used to work. that's my question
[05:37] <foibles> Evolution2, i dont know otherwise
[05:38] <foibles> i know its possible for windows to read ext3, but its a pain to setup
[05:38] <Evolution2> foibles: if I format like it says, would it completely wipe out my partition?
[05:38] <foibles> yes
[05:39] <dueperdue> hi
[05:39] <Evolution2> ah ok
[05:40] <Evolution2> k thanks
[05:43] <tuxwulf> Anybody any ideas how to catch CPU temperature in a script?
[05:45] <simula> system gaurd snags that value... maybe that is a starting point for finding a lead
[06:04] <ForgeAus> Evolution2 you need an IFS
[06:05] <ForgeAus> damn he's gone
[06:09] <simula> could someone point me to a command line tutorial on how to format/mount a second sata drive?
[06:09] <simula> i'm a newbie and i want to learn the command line way to go about it :)
[06:10] <raevin> simula: tried searching google?
[06:10] <simula> the stuff i have found doesn't seem to be working for me :/
[06:10] <simula> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/10926
[06:10] <raevin> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/65690-second-sata-drive-unable-mount.html
[06:11] <simula> thanks raevin
[06:11] <raevin> search: "linux how to mount a sata drive"
[06:11] <raevin> no problemo
[06:14] <raevin-SLEEPING> anyone have any good c++ tutorials for linux?  i got a windows background in it, but want to start from the ground-up again, since i know the two are different
[06:15] <simula> have you played with mingw on windows?
[06:16] <raevin-SLEEPING> i've touched it...but i didn't do much with it
[06:16] <simula> what kind of stuff are you thinking of making... command line stuff... or gui stuff?
[06:17] <raevin-SLEEPING> in the end, gui...but, i want to do some command line stuff first
[06:18] <bmac2> I cannot get kubuntu to install on a dual processor machine, dell poweredge, and from all the docs and references online it has something to do with dual processors
[06:19] <bmac2> and reading stuff at the same time, a known bug
[06:19] <bmac2> gives a squashfs error on any version
[06:19] <bmac2> anyone know a workaround to get kubuntu on this server?
[06:19] <bmac2> tried the standard noapic apci=off
[06:30] <calcmandan> anyone having issues loading distrowatch.com with konqueror?
[06:30] <calcmandan> i can load it with netscape and firefox though.
[06:40] <pat5star> hi all, was just setting up some cron jobs and realized that if an error occurs, the system will use the MAILTO variable to email me about it...but I can't find where it goes...or if it's even being sent. Does kubuntu have an internal email system setup automatically or do I have to do something?
[06:41] <pat5star> calcmandan: I just tried with konqueror, no problems here
[06:42] <pat5star> bmac2: wish I had my notes here but I don't...I had the same server and same problem about a year ago. I remember I had to compile my own kernel to get it working
[06:43] <bmac2> pat5star, but I can't even install
[06:43] <calcmandan> pat5star: thank you
[06:43] <bmac2> I can install debian, slackware, freebsd
[06:43] <pat5star> calcmandan: yw
[06:43] <bmac2> anything except an ubuntu based distro
[06:43] <bmac2> live cd hoses
[06:43] <bmac2> live dvd hoses
[06:44] <bmac2> alt dvd and cd hoses
[06:44] <bmac2> tried ubuntu, kubuntu both desktop and server
[06:44] <bmac2> there is mention of this error being known
[06:44] <bmac2> and a fix for it
[06:44] <pat5star> bmac2: I'm looking for my notes, may take a few mins but I remember I wasted a couple of days on it...but once I got it working it was awesome...I'll see if I can find it
[06:44] <bmac2> fix is mentioned all over the internet
[06:44] <bmac2> but not the fix
[06:44] <bmac2> k
[06:44] <bmac2> thanks
[06:44] <bmac2> I am running kubuntu on like 5 machines
[06:45] <bmac2> just this server is being a pain in the ass
[06:45] <pat5star> bmac2: oh that just reminded me...I used debian, not kubuntu...may not work for you anyways
[06:45] <bmac2> dang
[06:45] <bmac2> there has to be a work around
[06:45] <bmac2> I just can't find what it is
[06:45] <bmac2> lol
[06:46] <pat5star> bmac2: but I'm like you now, 5 machines here with kubuntu now, I used to be diehard debian fan but kubuntu is just easier now :)
[06:46] <pat5star> and before I get bashed, I know kubuntu is a derivative :P
[06:46] <bmac2> it is a derivative
[06:46] <bmac2> but still different
[06:46] <bmac2> distro
[06:47] <bmac2> just like a lot of debian deviants over the years
[06:47] <bmac2> all the way from ubuntu, to knoppix, all the way back ot storm linux
[06:48] <pat5star> bmac2: yep I hear you...but I used to be strictly debian. After trying kubuntu for the first time, I found it similar to debian in the ways I wanted, but much easier to install and detect hardware, it just took the pain part out of debian...never looked back since :)
[06:50] <pat5star> back to my little question...nobody knows what (or if anything) happens to default system email in a fresh kubuntu install?
[06:50] <bmac2> do a ps aux
[06:50] <bmac2>  with a pipeline   | more
[06:50] <bmac2> on it
[06:50] <bmac2> and see if there is a mail mta installed
[06:50] <bmac2> I don't think there is by default
[06:50] <bmac2> debian  always put exim on by default
[06:50] <bmac2> but
[06:51] <bmac2> you had to configure it or it was broke
[06:51] <pat5star> bmac2: i don't have any smtp server running, nor want one...just wondering if system (error) emails got sent some other method by default...it doesn't appear that it does
[06:51] <bmac2> no
[06:51] <bmac2> but there has to be a way to tell it where the mail server is
[06:51] <bmac2> or it wouldn't make any sense to even have that
[06:51] <bmac2> I just have no idea where it would be
[06:52] <pat5star> then I guess the only way you find errors from things like a screwed up cron job would be in the logs then, eh?
[06:52] <bmac2> or
[06:52] <bmac2> have the email set up somehow
[06:52] <bmac2> or tell the cron to send a message to another local machine
[06:53] <pat5star> see why I'm wondering this is because I have another system that does run my smtp server, and if I have any problems it emails my ~ account, where I have fetchmail set up to send it to my primary email address adn I'm notified right away
[06:54] <pat5star> bmac2: ok, I'll look and see if I can alter the MAILTO variable to use my other server...thx for that idea
[06:54] <bmac2> np
[06:54] <bmac2> there has to be a way to fix that
[06:54] <calcmandan> i figured out why distrowatch wasn't loading
[06:54] <bmac2> I know people who do it thatway
[06:54] <calcmandan> i had browser id shut off.
[06:54] <bmac2> just never asked them
[06:54] <bmac2> lol calcmandan
[06:54] <calcmandan> once i re-enabled it, it loaded.
[06:54] <bmac2> sounds like something I would do
[06:54] <bmac2> don't you just hate that?
[06:54] <bmac2> working hard, doing your thing
[06:54] <calcmandan> *nod*
[06:55] <pat5star> bmac2: gl with your problem, I didn't bother looking for my notes because I remember now it was debian I installed on my poweredge, so I doubt it will be any help to you
[06:55] <bmac2> and forgot something you did earlier
[06:55] <calcmandan> i prefer to use konq.  firefox is bloated.
[06:55] <bmac2> the more I use opera
[06:55] <bmac2> the more I lik eit
[06:56] <calcmandan> it's fast at loading from what i've seen.
[06:56] <pat5star> bmac2: agrees, lol! that's why I try and write everything down I do nowadays...I've done so many things in the past that I never wrote about, only to find like a year later I need to do it again and have no idea how I did it the first time
[06:56] <bmac2> HEY
[06:56] <bmac2> no
[06:56] <bmac2> w
[06:56] <bmac2> leave our senility out of this
[06:57] <bmac2> it ain't MY fault I am getting old
[06:57] <bmac2> and forgetful
[06:57] <pat5star> calcmandan: I'm beginning to agree...I used to be a huge firefox fan but lately I'm get discouraged with it...but I'm not a big fan of konqueror or opera either...so I'm still stuck with firefox
[06:57] <calcmandan> pat5star: yeah i was using teh mozilla suite back in the day. read about firefox .9.
[06:57] <calcmandan> i downloaded it and was hooked
[06:58] <calcmandan> then, slowly as they added more and more features, it got so slow at loading.
[06:58] <calcmandan> and little bugs where i can't use the hotkeys to open or close tabs...
[06:58] <calcmandan> on youtube, especially.
[06:58] <calcmandan> i like konqueror.  i got used to its hotkeys when i worked at apple.
[06:58] <pat5star> calcmandan: me too, remember messing around with netscape 4.7 to start because I refused to use IE, and unless I'm wrong, mozilla is built on the original netscape code
[06:58] <calcmandan> their browser is almost identical to konq.  so it wasn't hard for me.
[06:59] <calcmandan> yes.  they split the project because the suite was too bloaty.
[06:59] <calcmandan> firefox was lightning fast.
[06:59] <calcmandan> WAS
[07:00] <calcmandan> it matters to me.  only running an athlon 1500+ with 1gb of ram.
[07:00] <calcmandan> kubuntu 6.06.2 lts.
[07:00] <pat5star> calcmandan: ya it was awesome back then. funny you bring this up because I just read on /. the other day that netscape is finally officially dead. It's too bad in a way, because I remember when v6 came out it was pretty good
[07:00] <calcmandan> yeah
[07:00] <calcmandan> when i read that post, i downloaded the last version of netscape for memory.
[07:01] <calcmandan> i used netscape back in the day.
[07:01] <calcmandan> in the mid 90s
[07:01] <calcmandan> i still run mozilla.
[07:01] <calcmandan> for fun. it's basically firefox
[07:01] <pat5star> calcmandan: lol, good idea...vintage software...might be worth something someday when you are the only person with  a copy of it left lol
[07:01] <calcmandan> lol
[07:02] <calcmandan> opera is fast!
[07:03] <pat5star> calcmandan: ya I have it installed...I don't know how to explain it but I just don't like using it. It is fast, all the plugins work for it fine, but I still prefer firefox at this point even tho I'm now having plugin problems and it is definitely slower
[07:03] <calcmandan> pat5star: i always made a point at having a copy of netscape on my machine.
[07:04] <calcmandan> pat5star: yeah. i generally have such loyalties to certain software. but i have gotten a bit picky about performance on aging hardware.
[07:05] <pat5star> calcmandan: me too, now the only diff is when I work on any friends/family computers I install firefox if they don't have it. I tell them I refuse to help them unless they let me install it, then I usually get them to make it their default :)
[07:05] <calcmandan> pat5star: i'd be on a newer version of kubuntu, but i can't seem to get wlan working on newer versions on the live discs. so i'm sticking with what i have. works fine.
[07:05] <calcmandan> pat5star: yeah, i have converted many friends to firefox.
[07:06] <pat5star> calcmandan: I hear you on that....I only upgraded to gutsy 2 weeks ago because it took me awhile to wlan working too, but now that it is I really like it. I also have kde4 installed but not my default yet, still using kde3...
[07:07] <calcmandan> pat5star: yeah, i'm really excited about kde4. saw the keynote during the install party.
[07:07] <calcmandan> pat5star: i'm a big big big fan of kde.  the newer look and improvements have brought kde a long long way.
[07:07] <pat5star> Looking forward to heron tho, because kde4 looks good and seems to be much faster. I'm not sure if I'm in the majority here or not, but I really like little things like dolphin for the file manager, and the new layour of the kmenu
[07:09] <pat5star> calcmandan: I know it's said every year, but I really think it's going to come true now with kde4. This will be the year of linux for the desktop :)
[07:09] <pat5star> especially with the eye candy like compiz, which works really well too
[07:09] <calcmandan> pat5star: well, we'll see. the EEE is now going to be available in xp. and i have a suspicion that it will slowly push linux out.
[07:10] <pat5star> calcmandan: what is EEE>
[07:10] <pat5star> ?
[07:10] <calcmandan> pat5star: asus eee
[07:10] <calcmandan> eee.asus.com
[07:10] <calcmandan> micro laptop with linux preinstalled.
[07:10] <calcmandan> sold 350k or so of them the last 6 months.
[07:12] <pat5star> calcmandan: just looked it up on wikipedia...that's cool, surprised I didn't hear about that before. Sounds similar to gOS which was just featured in this months linux journal too. With all these diff things coming out, it can only be good for all us linux geeks :)
[07:12] <calcmandan> i'm shocked, frankly.
[07:12] <calcmandan> if you read /., i'm shocked.
[07:13] <calcmandan> yes, it's only good for us.
[07:13] <calcmandan> though we'll survive just fine as underdogs.
[07:13] <calcmandan> m$ can keep the rootkits and virus writers on their sights.
[07:13] <pat5star> calcmandan: I read it every other day...that's why I can't believe I missed that...although I'm bad for only reading articles if the headline or first few sentences catch my attention, othewise I skip it
[07:14] <calcmandan> pat5star: oh i'm the same way.
[07:15] <pat5star> calcmandan: agreed! I'm finding I'm getting busier tho without advertising whatsoever from people and small businesses just sick to death of windows and willing to try linux now. I set up servers for the businesses with debian and kubuntu for personal computers, and have not had one unhappy customer yet...
[07:16] <pat5star> calcmandan: The trick I've found is that if they need windows for some kind of crucial software that only runs on it and won't work with wine, I dual boot windows and kubuntu for them...and the install cd's have made that so incredibly easy to do now too :)
[07:17] <jarn> I'm trying to format a new external hard drive as ext3, but the sizes are screwed up. It's a 500gb harddrive (meaning it's actually 465 ;)), and it shows up as 465, but it apparently thinks 30 gb are in use, telling me free space is 435 - and this is just AFTER I formatted it. I checked and there's nothing in it.
[07:17] <bmac2> pat5star, make sure you try virtualbox
[07:17] <bmac2> it blows wine away
[07:17] <calcmandan> i have friends who complain that kde/gnome looks so much like windows. i tell them that it's easier for those transitioning to linux from windows to get the gist.
[07:17] <pat5star> bmac2: I've been unsuccessful getting that working properly yet...it's on my todo list tho!
[07:17] <bmac2> that way they never leave linux, just open a window with xp in it, or whatever version you need
[07:18] <bmac2> we are running all kinds of crap in it
[07:18] <bmac2> I can run xp or vista both
[07:18] <bmac2> inside of it
[07:19] <pat5star> bmac2: ya I definitely have to get that working right. It hasn't been a big thing for me tho because at home I have my entire family (even my kids) diehard linux fans, so they don't want or need linux
[07:19] <calcmandan> bmac2: does it install xp in a virtualbox session?
[07:19] <bmac2> yep
[07:19] <calcmandan> hmmm.
[07:19] <bmac2> I am runing xp right now inside of it
[07:20] <pat5star> oops, I meant they don't want or need WINDOWS, big typo there lol
[07:20] <bmac2> so I can run some software we run for the project I work on
[07:20] <bmac2> lol
[07:20] <calcmandan> well, we're talking about a virtualized environment.
[07:20] <bmac2> we know what you meant, not what you said
[07:20] <pat5star> bmac2: lol
[07:20] <bmac2> but calcmandan this one works nice
[07:20] <bmac2> most of them I think suck
[07:20] <bmac2> I HATE vmware
[07:20] <bmac2> with a freaking passion
[07:20] <bmac2> always have
[07:20] <bmac2> always will
[07:20] <calcmandan> i haven't had any luck with vmware.
[07:20] <bmac2> virtualbox WORKS
[07:20] <calcmandan> always some issue with my kernel.
[07:21] <calcmandan> unfortunately, virtualbox isn't in the repo list.
[07:21] <bmac2> repo list?
[07:21] <pat5star> bmac2: virtualware is diff than vmware? I thought they were the same...I've only tried to get vmware working and was unable too, although I didn't put a lot of effort into it
[07:21] <bmac2> what is a repo list?
[07:21] <jussi01> !virtualbox
[07:21] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[07:21] <calcmandan> apt-cache search
[07:21] <bmac2> virtualbox
[07:21] <bmac2> that is it
[07:21] <bmac2> that's the ticket
[07:21] <bmac2> NOT virtualware
[07:22] <jussi01> !enter | bmac2
[07:22] <bmac2> or vm ware
[07:22] <ubotu> bmac2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:22] <pat5star> bmac2: wow, I'll check that out tonight then
[07:22] <bmac2> do try it
[07:22] <pat5star> brb, going to check it now actually
[07:23] <bmac2> we have a program that was originally written in Visual C++ and .net and stuff
[07:23] <bmac2> when the software was run on windows, before Pluto gave the code to opensource
[07:23] <jussi01> !away > dhq_sleeping
[07:24] <bmac2> we are in the middle of re-writing it, but we have to have ti to build new screens, so we end up running it inside of virtualbox.  It installs beautifully, does the XP udates, everything
[07:24] <dhq_sleeping> jussi01: what happ
[07:25] <vlt> Hello. What is the easiest way to let pop up a small kde notification window from a bash script? Any dcop magic?
[07:26] <calcmandan> found the virtualbox apt repo.
[07:26] <calcmandan> downloading it now.
[07:26] <calcmandan> yeehaw
[07:26] <calcmandan> we shall see how this baby runs.
[07:27] <calcmandan> too bad.  ihave no xp discs
[07:27] <calcmandan> i do, however, have 7.10
[07:27] <bmac2> it will run win98, even win3.11, vista
[07:27] <bmac2> any version you have laying around
[07:27] <pat5star> I'm downloading it too right now
[07:28] <pat5star> I have vista installed on the computer I'm using right now, will see how this works
[07:31] <calcmandan> i have absolutely zero m$ software on my machines.
[07:31] <calcmandan> all gnu
[07:31] <calcmandan> Actually, I'm quite proud of that.
[07:34] <jussi01> dhq_sleeping: did you get the pm from the bot?
[07:39] <pat5star> calcmandan: actually that is cool, I hate having to still have ms products around but I do for work. anyways, I have it all installed but have to log out and back in to try it out...I'll be back in a few mins
[07:39] <pat5star> bmac2: thx for telling me about this, brb
[07:41] <calcmandan> g'night yall
[07:54] <vlt> I solved my problem using kdialog (if anyone is interested ...)
[07:58] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[07:58] <doktoreas> how can i Install kubuntu on a xfce installation? is enough kubuntu-desktop?
[08:00] <jussi01> doktoreas: yes, just install that and it will pull everything you should need
[08:00] <doktoreas> and after that I can issue a aptitude remove xfce-desktop?
[08:00] <jussi01> !purekde | doktoreas
[08:00] <ubotu> doktoreas: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[08:00] <doktoreas> thx
[08:01] <jussi01> doktoreas: s/!Gnome/Xfce
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the command to unzip a file?
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean its in a .zip
[08:13] <jussi01> Admiral_Chicago: i think ark can handle them, or do you need the commandline?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> How do I get full rez full screen visuals in Amarok ( using ProjectM )?
[08:43] <caca> hai
[08:47] <noisekiller> Anybody there? *knock knock*
[08:48] <jussi01> noisekiller: yep
[08:50] <doktoreas> hello
[08:50] <noisekiller> jissi01: Know anything about Remotedesktop Client (T.Sauter)? Anyway to switch (minimize) during remoting?
[08:50] <doktoreas> I have just installed kubuntu over my gnome installation
[08:50] <doktoreas> now i am running the apt remove from purekde, but it want take out xorg
[08:50] <noisekiller> jussi01: Or can recommend any better remote desktop from Kubuntu to Win-machines.?
[08:50] <doktoreas> is it normal?
[08:51] <jussi01> noisekiller: i usually us krdc
[08:51] <jussi01> doktoreas: weird, not that i know of
[08:51] <jussi01> doktoreas: did you use aptitude orapt get?
[08:54] <noisekiller> jussi01: Didnt get that workin. Stuck at 'Authenticating' .. Think it tries VNC instead of RDP for my host.
[08:54] <thumper> is there a simple fix for getting kopete to work on gutsy (up to date AFAIK)
[08:57] <jpatrick> thumper: the bug which made it crash on launch was fixed in -updates
[08:57] <thumper> jpatrick: it doesn't crash, just takes 100% cpu and is non-responsive
[08:58] <jpatrick> thumper: apt-get install --reinstall kopete?
[08:59] <noisekiller> jussi01: Never mind ... found out I need to type rdp:// with krdc. I'll try it out.. Thanks! :)
[09:00] <jpatrick> thumper: if not, install kdenetwork-dbg and pastebin the output
[09:01] <dedi> how can i start a app on a specific desktop?
[09:04] <thumper> jpatrick: reinstall didn't fix it
[09:04] <thumper> jpatrick: installing kdenetwork-dbg now
[09:04] <jpatrick> thumper: best check what the debug says
[09:08] <needhelp> anyone knows how to create a gpt partition through gpart?
[09:08] <jpatrick> thumper: not sure, but you may have to restart KDE to make it find the -dbg libraries
[09:10] <thumper> jpatrick: hmm, that's not going to happen right now, too much to do
[09:10] <jpatrick> thumper: well let's just run: gdb kopete and hope for the best
[09:17] <jpatrick> thumper: did you have any plugins enabled?
[09:18] <thumper> jpatrick: yes I think so
[09:18] <thumper> but I'm trying to get some work done right now, kopete will have to way
[09:18] <thumper> s/way/wait/
[09:18] <jpatrick> thumper: ah, then they're probably mucking something up
[09:19] <jpatrick> well, have fun working on Launchpad!
[09:21]  * noisekiller <3 kubuntu
[09:21] <jpatrick> noisekiller: welcome to the club
[09:23] <noisekiller> jpatrick: It takes some skill to get used to it ... but when you're there - you love it. My Knetworkmanager went bad and allowed only WEP with manual configuration... edited /etc/network/interfaces and now it works fine. :)
[09:23] <jpatrick> noisekiller: I've never liked NetworkManager and always edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:25] <noisekiller> jpatrick: As a newbie thats hard.. thank god we've got google. 8-) Can you recommend any sweet web editor (like Frontpage etc)
[09:29] <jpatrick> noisekiller: hmm
[09:30] <jpatrick> !nvm
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <jpatrick> noisekiller: nop, sorry
[09:30] <jpatrick> noisekiller: personally I use vim <3
[09:30] <noisekiller> vim? :) Sounds great.
[09:31] <jpatrick> !info vim-full
[09:31] <ubotu> vim-full (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 943 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[09:32] <noisekiller> jpatrick: Something tells me its almost as good as notepad was in Vista. ;)
[09:41] <jpatrick> noisekiller: vim just rocks when you get used to it
[09:44] <appelza> noisekiller: you are horribly mistaken :P
[09:44] <blue-frog> hi, what's the equivalent of gnome language selector in kde please?
[09:44] <appelza> unless you meant a WYSIWYG html editor
[09:45] <jpatrick> blue-frog: it's in System Settings -> Regional and Language
[09:47] <blue-frog> jpatrick: hum, that thing didn't seem to do a lot. absolutely no i18n packages have been downloaded/installed. is that normal?
[09:48] <jpatrick> blue-frog: install: language-pack-kde-fr
[09:48] <blue-frog> jpatrick but sorry just seeing I am in the wrong channel. using kde4. ty
[09:48] <jpatrick> blue-frog: then: kde-l10n-fr
[09:49] <blue-frog> jpatrick: oh ok you mean ther's no automated way to select the language as in gnome. you have to do it manually. ok no problem. I know how to do. rty
[09:50] <jpatrick> blue-frog: for KDE 4 that is
[09:53] <noisekiller> jpatrick & appelza: I'll give it a try ... guess it not wysiwyg but neither is notepad.
[09:54] <appelza> frontpage is afaik, and you asked for something like frontpage
[09:55] <jpatrick> noisekiller: here's my personal configuration is you want to give it a try: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59909/
[09:56] <jpatrick> noisekiller: install vim-full and save that as .vimrc in your /home
[09:58] <doktoreas> anyone with kmail and imap gmail?
[09:59] <jpatrick> noisekiller: and of course the vim tutor will get you started: http://www.cs.umu.se/~janl/vimtutor.txt
[10:01] <noisekiller> jpatrick: Thanks, but it feels like i need something more GUIer right now. :)
[10:01] <jpatrick> noisekiller: Kate?
[10:01] <noisekiller> jpatrick: Don't know her..
[10:02] <jpatrick> noisekiller: "she" is in K-Menu -> Utilities
[10:02] <kgoetz> *grin*
[10:02] <kgoetz> thats a classic quote
[10:02] <noisekiller> :)
[10:02] <jpatrick> kgoetz: what are you hiding there for? :)
[10:03] <pat5star> noisekiller: just started watching the chat here, not sure if you already been told, buy have you checked out bluefish or screem?
[10:03] <noisekiller> jpatrick: Ok.. thats enough for me while coding. But if i'd like something with ftp aso..
[10:03] <jpatrick> noisekiller: ftp daemon?
[10:03] <pat5star> noisekiller: they are wysiwyg html editors
[10:04] <noisekiller> pat5star: all tips are welcome... afaik, bluefish, screem .. i'll take a look around. thanks
[10:04] <kgoetz> jpatrick: i dropped in here for some reason (which i forget), and i havent rconnected yet :)
[10:04] <jpatrick> !ftpd | noisekiller (maybe this)
[10:04] <ubotu> noisekiller (maybe this): FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:04] <jpatrick> kgoetz: nice to see you again anyway
[10:05] <noisekiller> Now we're talkin... :)
[10:06] <alromaithi> could any1 tel lme how to use the nvidia restricted latest drivers? i want to use it and enable it as default   please
[10:06] <kgoetz> jpatrick: ditto.
[10:07] <alromaithi> btw gnome is easy in some parts and KDE also  , however KDE is getting complex and complicated with every new options :S i hope they put an option called KDE Theme packages where you get a readied theme  FULL packages which comes for  example Apple mac theme when you throw it in that manager and enablke your system become an apple . similar to other themes get it?
[10:15] <alromaithi> please help me enable and use restricted driverts
[10:15] <alromaithi> with ubuntu gnome i just go to administrations and enable it , this is complicated!!!
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[10:15] <alromaithi> i had this problem since i used Kubuntu
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> alromaithi, what problem?
[10:16] <alromaithi> i want to use Nvidia restircted drivers
[10:16] <alromaithi> the latest drivers
[10:17] <alromaithi> i want to enable it aswell , downloading it will not enable it , this system doesnt have a brain
[10:17] <kgoetz> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> then enable then in synaptic or whatever you use (or edit /etc/apt/sources.list to enable them)
[10:17] <alromaithi>  how tos are  for the terminal konsole stuff
[10:18] <alromaithi> kde does t he clicks no need for terminal to do th is
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> alromaithi, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <whatever>
[10:19] <alromaithi> ActionParsnip: this will install it but not enable it
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> alromaithi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia you been there?
[10:20] <alromaithi> yes ActionParsnip
[10:21] <alromaithi> i dont see restricted driver opt ions maybe its deleted?
[10:21] <pat5star> alromaithi: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:22] <alromaithi> :S
[10:22] <alromaithi> no
[10:22] <alromaithi> why is it not in by default what hth ehell
[10:22] <pat5star> alromaithi: :)   do that, then it will be in your system administration panel
[10:22] <alromaithi> thanks
[10:22] <pat5star> alromaithi: yw
[10:23] <alromaithi> pat5star: may i ask , will kubuntu 8.04 have compiz in by default?
[10:23] <pat5star> alromaithi: that's my understanding that it will
[10:24] <alromaithi> im using beta i dont see compiz :S
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> alromaithi, no bad thing :)
[10:25] <alromaithi> i want this system to destroy Windows and MAC!
[10:25] <alromaithi> big TIME
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> alromaithi, it already does :) :)
[10:29] <reel_> Hi, How do I get the list of installed packages and the size each occupies in my system ? ( tried dpkg --get-selections for list but no size field )
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> reel_, try dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n
[10:30]  * ActionParsnip google nicely
[10:30] <jussi01> nice work ActionParsnip
[10:31] <reel_> ActionParsnip, That was nice.  Thanks!
[10:33] <doktoreas> is there a way in kmail to get only subject for imap?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> reel_, np dude
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> reel_, google is a good tool :)
[10:36] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone recommend a linux game similar to MechCommander?
[10:37] <yao_ziyuan> or the BattleTech series
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan, does it not run via wine?
[10:38] <yao_ziyuan> ...
[10:38] <yao_ziyuan> ActionParsnip: i have played through it
[10:38] <yao_ziyuan> ActionParsnip: i want something new
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> oic
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Microsoft mechwarrior
[10:38] <yao_ziyuan> i wish there be a game emulating the Future Combat Systems
[10:38] <yao_ziyuan> or the UAVs
[10:39] <yao_ziyuan> or Age of Empires
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> I'm not much of a gamer, sorry
[10:39] <yao_ziyuan> FreeCiv, right?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan, get settlers :D
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan, freeciv is cool
[10:39] <jussi01> !games
[10:39] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:39] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: I like tremulous  a lot
[10:39] <jussi01> !info tremulous | yao_ziyuan
[10:39] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: tremulous (source: tremulous): Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[10:40] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[10:40] <ubuntu> hey
[10:40] <yao_ziyuan> i'll give it a try
[10:40] <jpatrick> !hi | ubuntu
[10:40] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:40] <ubuntu> :D
[10:41] <ubuntu> tnx
[10:41] <ubuntu> i'm having a problem wen installing kubuntu
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, wassup?
[10:41] <ubuntu> my pc gets freezed wen it tries to load the VGAs
[10:42] <ubuntu> My pc has an onboard VGA and an AGP VGA card
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, do you get the live desktop
[10:42] <ubuntu> no
[10:42] <jpatrick> ubuntu: have you tried the "Safe graphics mode"?
[10:42] <ubuntu> yeah i tries safe graphics....but didn'yt work
[10:42] <ubuntu> it just shows a kernel panic error
[10:43] <ubuntu> why is that?
[10:43] <ubuntu> but my knoppix 3.4 worked on my pc really well
[10:44] <ubuntu> i think it must be a prob. with the kernel or initrd
[10:44] <jpatrick> ubuntu: did you check the md5sum?
[10:44] <ubuntu> yes
[10:45] <ubuntu> btw
[10:45] <ubuntu> i removed my AGP VGA and then started my PC
[10:45] <ubuntu> it works fine
[10:45] <jpatrick> hmm, curious
[10:45] <jussi01> that is weird
[10:46] <ubuntu> Here goes my PC specs:
[10:46] <ubuntu> CPU: Intel Core  2 Duo 2.0
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, try installing and updating without agp then install it after, change your bios to use the onboard as primary display
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> intel core duo with an AGP slot
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !!!
[10:47] <ubuntu> will it affct the config of Kubuntu
[10:47] <ubuntu> ???
[10:48] <ubuntu> my pc has a 2GB of RAM
[10:48] <jussi01> ubuntu: you sure it isnt a pcie???
[10:48] <ubuntu> nope
[10:48] <ubuntu> motherbrd is asrock
[10:48] <ubuntu> it's AGP 8x
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> asrock...explains it all
[10:49] <ubuntu> excuse me..i didn't get it??
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> asrock make weird boards like core2 duo socket with agp
[10:50] <ubuntu> yeah
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> or 939 / 754 socket boards but you can use one or the other
[10:51] <ubuntu> but knoppix is running on PC and it takes my primary VGA as the AGP card...(i think it's a prob with the kernel])
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, try turning some stuff off in your bios
[10:53] <ubuntu> i tried my best on configuring the bios
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, did you disable everything you could?
[10:55] <ubuntu> yeah
[10:55] <ubuntu> 100% sure abt wat i didi
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, how far can you boot on the kubuntu cd?
[10:58] <ubuntu> when i click on "Start or install Kubuntu", it shows a loading screen with a progress bar which is running to and fro
[10:58] <ubuntu> then
[10:58] <ubuntu> the
[10:58] <ubuntu> progress bar fills about 50%
[10:58] <ubuntu> then it get's stucked
[10:59] <ubuntu> sorry for my english
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, we get you
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, hmm
[10:59] <ubuntu> i tried running the verbose even
[11:00] <ubuntu> it happens wen it tries to load the drivers for the AGP card,...then it shows a paragraph of alphanumeric characters
[11:00] <ubuntu> then "kernel panic"
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, got latest bios?
[11:01] <ubuntu> yep
[11:01] <ubuntu> i updated it recently
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, ok i found something that may help
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213793
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, basically it says kill the process to do with what is being installed
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, it might make the install continue
[11:03] <p-f> dell 640m => incredibly annoying high pitched noise when the cpu is idle. I have tried adding apm=idle-threshold=100 and idle=halt to my kernel parameters but to no avail. Has anyone encountered/solved this problem?
[11:03] <ubuntu> ok...checking
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> p-f, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168178.html
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> p-f, might give some clues
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> p-f, apparently its singing capacitors which sounds cool
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> p-f, let us know if you score !
[11:07] <p-f> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give them a try
[11:07] <ubuntu> Hey ActionParsnip, the thread link u sent me is dealt wen installing ubuntu..right? my case is not that.M
[11:07] <p-f> and buy something other than a dell next time :)
[11:08] <cannon> hey all
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> p-f, oh definately
[11:08] <cannon> is there a utility that can extract lots of folders at once?
[11:08]  * ActionParsnip hits his Lat D420
[11:08] <cannon> like extract now in windows?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> cannon, you could use cli
[11:08] <cannon> thanks, i'll check it out :)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tar -zxvfR <somefile>
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> cannon, you'll have to see if tar allows -R
[11:09] <ubuntu> Hey action, the problem still stands unsolved
[11:10] <cannon> i was hoping for a gui app :P
[11:10] <ubuntu> the thread link u sent me is not related to me
[11:11] <ubuntu> it is dealt wen installing ubuntu...(i mean the thrd)...but my pc doesn't even boot
[11:11] <ubuntu> actually doesn't start the kde or xserver
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, if you drop to CLI try killing the process related to installing the agp stuff and it might continue. This seems to be the hung process. killing it willallow the next process to start
[11:11] <ubuntu> xfce or watever
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu, if you can get to the gui to click installthen it applies to you
[11:12] <ubuntu> i cannot get the gui even
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> cannon, the only way I know would be to use CLI as the gui is more for standard tasks
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> cannon, you could even use find :)
[11:13] <ubuntu> are there any arguements to be passed wen starting kubuntu?
[11:13] <cannon> hmmm, cli is an app ... i've looked in the package manager
[11:13] <cannon> didn;t see it
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> cannon, find /home/cannon/folder/with/stuff/in -name *.gz | exec tar -zxvf {} /;
[11:13] <jussi01> !cli | cannon
[11:13] <ubotu> cannon: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, would that work ^
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, ?
[11:14] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: hrmmm, _should_...
[11:14] <jussi01> didnt look too close :)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> cannon, if you do it a lot you could even put it in a bash script but replace the location with a "." without the quotes
[11:17] <cannon> it's for unrar'ing tv eps ... they often come in their own directory which is a pain
[11:17] <cannon> like 24 directories a season! lol
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> cannon, yeah i'd use the find command
[11:18] <ubuntu> i hate kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> cannon, obv the command is unrar {} (or whatever a good option set is)
[11:18] <cannon> k, i'll look into it
[11:18] <cannon> i love kubuntu! :D
[11:19] <noisekiller> now what... winrar? ah..  you already talkin about it?
[11:20] <cannon> yeah
[11:20] <noisekiller> cannon: how did you do? :)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> cannon, me too :)
[11:21] <cannon> http://www.softspecialist.com/ExtractNow-245/ExtractNow.htm
[11:21] <cannon> i found this
[11:21] <cannon> extract now works on linux too :P
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> cannon, although I fear its popularity will bring rise to virus'
[11:21] <cannon> awesome app :P
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> cannon, smooth
[11:21] <cannon> yup
[11:21] <cannon> am too new to terminal to rely on it all the time :P
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> cannon, its what i use most except running web browsers/text editors etc
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> cannon, try sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> cannon, ;)
[11:24] <cannon> hmmm
[11:24] <cannon> looks like it wasn;t linux afterall ... damn it! lol
[11:25] <cannon> how will an upgrade help me ActionParsnip?
[11:25] <cannon> and I think I am already upgraded :P
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> cannon, it cleans your cache, gets the latest updates and installany necessary. no need for synaptic / adept
[11:25] <cannon> i don;t mind synaptic
[11:25] <cannon> i find it handy to search for packages
[11:25] <cannon> that I don't know the exact name of
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> cannon, true enough. I just google for my needs and get a name
[11:27] <cannon> heh
[11:28] <cannon> go find me a gui then :P
[11:28] <p-f> ActionParsnip: echo "2" > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate almost gets rid of the idle noise. The problems are: i) it's not actually gone, it's just much higher pitched ii) waste of battery
[11:29] <Odd> =p
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> cannon, gui for what?
[11:29] <cannon> extracting multiple directories of rar files
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> cannon, I have no idea. I cant find much with google. Have a look see what you can find
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cannon, I'd suggest CLI as it will give you what you need. Its not htat hard either
[11:31] <Liminal> hi
[11:31] <cannon> is there a tut somewhere for it ActionParsnip?
[11:31] <Liminal> I need the help from someone who can speak swedish
[11:31] <jussi01> Ok, !se
[11:31] <jussi01> !se
[11:31] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:31] <Liminal> jusii01 can you help me?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> cannon, i'd check out find
[11:32] <cannon> !find
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> cannon, also check out exec with it
[11:32] <cannon> hmmm, maybe I could use wine!
[11:32] <cannon> and still use some ms apps
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> cannon, could work :)
[11:32] <jussi01> Liminal: no, join #kubuntu-se :)
[11:34] <Liminal> its okay jussi01
[11:34] <Liminal> im sorted now
[11:34] <Liminal> thank god
[11:34] <jussi01> Liminal: great:)
[11:35] <Liminal> isnt it?>
[11:35] <Liminal> :)
[11:36] <foka_> Hi!  Does anyone know what command KDE 3 uses to turn off the computer in Kubuntu Feisty?  Thanks!  :-)
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> "shutdown -r now"
[11:37] <jpatrick> -h I think
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> or maybe just shutdown now.....-r probabl reboots
[11:37] <noisekiller> liminal: /j kubuntu-se ?
[11:37] <foka_> My computer hangs when I tries to use KDE 3 to shutdown my computer.  However, when I do a "shutdown -h now" in Konsole, it powers off successfully.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> foka_, turn off = sudo shutdown -h now
[11:38] <Jarlaxle> hi all
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> hey J
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> foka_, got all the latest updates?
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> hey Jarlaxle
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> hi Jarlaxle
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Jarlaxle
[11:38] <ubotu> Jarlaxle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> wow...i'm good this morning,only took me two trys to hit the tab button ;)
[11:38] <foka_> ActionParsnip, Hmm.... good idea!  Let me try that too.  :-)
[11:39] <foka_> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> foka_, np
[11:40] <Liminal> now im boned again.
[11:41] <cannon> boned?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> yeah i was confused too
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !boned
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boned - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <cannon> lol
[11:41] <jpatrick> !lolops
[11:41] <ubotu> Teh lolops r in ur chanelz, wotchin u mizbehav
[11:41] <cannon> heh
[11:42] <nosrednaekim> hah
[11:52] <cannon> ActionParsnip: i need your help :P
[11:52] <cannon> can ya show me the terminal way of extracting everything pls?
[11:52] <cannon> it's taking forever with ark
[11:53] <cannon> !extract
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extract - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <cannon> !rar
[11:54] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:56] <Jarlaxle> !info 7-zip
[11:56] <ubotu> Package 7-zip does not exist in gutsy
[11:56] <Liminal> 7zip is a free program for accessing them anyway
[12:13] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas on why my caps/num/scroll lock led's wont work anymore?
[12:14] <cannon> !wine
[12:14] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:14] <cannon> !appdb
[12:14] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:15] <Jarlaxle> !info codeblocks
[12:15] <ubotu> Package codeblocks does not exist in gutsy
[12:20] <cannon> hmmm?
[12:29] <Liminal> so does anyone mind if i ask probably the most annoying question any linux user can be asked?
[12:29] <kgoetz> yes, i mind
[12:30] <Liminal> fair enough
[12:31] <Liminal> im downloading simply mephis at the moment
[12:32] <Liminal> I tried kubuntu but the live cd didnt seem to be liked by any of my boxes
[12:34] <neville_> What do you mean didn't like them?
[12:36] <Liminal> didnt boot
[12:36] <neville_> Tried safe video?
[12:36] <neville_> Or was it something more severe?
[12:39] <Liminal> safe video?
[12:43] <neville_> It should be the second option in the list
[12:49] <ru\> gug
[12:49] <ru\> GuS
[12:49] <jpatrick> !hi | ru\
[12:49] <ubotu> ru\: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:49] <ru\> kill toms river computers
[12:49] <ru\> shutdown
[12:49] <jpatrick> hmm?
[12:51] <Liminal> hi
[12:51] <Liminal> where was the swedish channel again?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !se | LimCore
[12:51] <ubotu> LimCore: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !se | Liminal
[12:51] <ubotu> Liminal: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:52] <Liminal> cheers
[13:07] <baudthief> Anyone know of a simple web proxy I can install on a shell account I have?
[13:08] <baudthief> need to order something off a site that uses coolcart.net, for some reason I cant access coolcart from Sydney, Australia "(
[13:13] <neville_> baudthief Coolcart.net Shopping Cart Service?
[13:13] <neville_> I'm in Sydney, Australia, and I was just able to get to it fine
[13:15] <baudthief> neville_: you on optusnet cable?
[13:15] <baudthief> you're unwired!
[13:15] <neville_> No, Unwired
[13:15] <neville_> D: D: D:
[13:15] <baudthief> haha, I dunno man it's weird, it doesnt even resolve for me, been down for the past week
[13:15] <baudthief> works fine through vodafone GPRS etc
[13:16] <neville_> Optus must be slowly, but surely, turning into an AOL :P
[13:16] <baudthief> agreed lol
[13:17] <baudthief> trying out privoxy now
[13:17] <cannon> hi all
[13:17] <neville_> hi cannon
[13:17] <cannon> hows you?
[13:18] <neville_> Good thanks, how are you?
[13:19] <cannon> not too shabby
[13:19] <cannon> am still trying to find out how to customize the theme of my desktop and windows though
[13:19] <neville_> Have you had a look in Kcontrol?
[13:20] <cannon> kcontrol?
[13:20] <neville_> Press Alt+F2
[13:20] <neville_> Then type in kcontrol
[13:20] <neville_> And press enter
[13:20] <cannon> cool
[13:20] <cannon> ima have a look now :)
[13:22] <cannon> where can I get new themes for that app?
[13:22] <neville_> http://www.kde-look.org/
[13:23] <flipstar> !themes | look here :)
[13:23] <ubotu> look here :): Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[13:23] <cannon> which part of it though? :P
[13:23] <neville_> Well, pick the part that corresponds to which part you want to change in Kcontrol :P
[13:24] <tzd> hi everyone. i'm not sure what i've changed but recently my browser refuses to fully load some websites. It loads the title for the web page and then it stops. I have to "manually" fully load it by clicking the load button 3 times. Anyone please?
[13:39]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee
[13:42] <Daisuke_Ido> morning genii
[13:43] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps you have some idea why on earth the ubuntu devs thought it would be a good idea to make wubi officially supported
[13:44] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Morning :) As to the question, not a clue
[13:49] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: That fellow in #ubuntu the one with the wubi issue?
[13:50] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, we were talking about it in there a little while ago
[13:50] <genii> Ah, OK
[13:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and how there's no incentive to switch away from windows, since the wubi-installed OS is entirely dependent upon windows for its very existence.
[13:52] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: I look at it like "try before you buy" idea, not to run it always like that but test it out, etc
[13:52] <synteth> hey, anyone knows why i dont have sound on my kubuntu 7.10?
[13:52] <trpr> Daisuke: is it dependent on windows? from what i read here, it sounds like its just an installer. a way to quickly get windows users into linux
[13:53] <Daisuke_Ido> trpr, that creates the linux install as a disk image file on the windows partition
[13:53] <Daisuke_Ido> without windows, that disk image no longer exists
[13:53] <trpr> Daisuke_Ido: oh. i see. so its really no different than lin4win an all the older windows based installers
[13:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i see genii's point though, a little more robust than a livecd as you can have persistent settings, at least
[13:54] <Daisuke_Ido> trpr, everyone mentions lin4win, i just think of BeOS when i think of that type of installer :D
[13:55] <trpr> i don't think its such a bad situation. so its a temporary setup. hopefully after users get accustomed to being in linux they will reinstall something else
[13:55] <synteth> what do i have to install do get sound working on computer
[13:55] <Daisuke_Ido> !sound | synteth
[13:55] <ubotu> synteth: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:56] <Daisuke_Ido> trpr, i see mostly a downside, unless there's a way to evolve(?) that embedded disk image into a real install.  few people want to try out an OS and get it set up the way they like, just to have to redo it all when they decide to commit to it
[13:57] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, the upside is the try before you buy thing
[13:57] <genii> Since the installt here is a lop mounted image, you could conceivably get it how you like then just mount and cp it over from a livec
[13:57] <genii> *livecd
[13:58] <genii> and other typos...
[13:58] <Jucato> "Can I move my virtual disk file to a dedicated partition? You can use LVPM to transfer your install. A guide and support forum for LVPM is available here."
[13:58] <trpr> exactly what i was thinking. just move the image.. or delete windows and preserve the fs. not the ideal solution of course
[13:58] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's why i said unless... guess i should have read, huh? :)
[13:59]  * Jucato only read the FAQ now
[13:59] <Jucato> http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[13:59]  * Jucato never even dared to take a peek at Wubi... thought it sort of virtualized *buntu... guess not
[13:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i still call bad idea if only because of the support nightmare
[14:00] <Jucato> that depends I guess. as far as the the Ubuntu system is concerned, it thinks/behaves like it's on a real partition (according to the docs)
[14:01] <Jucato> oh well. not my personal concern :P
[14:04] <linuxguymarshall> How do I access my restricted drivers in KDE?
[14:05] <tzd> hi everyone. i'm not sure what i've changed but recently my browser refuses to fully load some websites. It loads the title for the web page and then it stops. I have to "manually" fully load it by clicking the load button 3 times. Anyone please?
[14:05] <linuxguymarshall> What website are you having problems with?
[14:06] <Dorwin6> hi guys, can anyone show me how to install vmware or virtual box on my machine so that I can install Windows XP in them?
[14:06] <Jucato> !virtualbox
[14:06] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[14:06] <tzd> linuxguymarshall: a few completely different ones... they usually work after a while. I think it has to do with some settings in "services" that i've changed recently
[14:06] <flipstar> Dorwin6: http://www.easyvmx.com/
[14:06] <Jucato> !vmware | Dorwin6
[14:06] <ubotu> Dorwin6: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[14:06] <linuxguymarshall> Dorwin6, go to your K Menu, select add/remove and select VMWare it should be there
[14:07] <Jucato> (see also the virtuablbox wiki page)
[14:08] <linuxguymarshall> tzd:What browser are you using and what services?
[14:08] <baudthief> is there any way to make linux look in ~/sbin as well as /sbin ?
[14:08] <Dorwin6> thank you guys  I will have a look at all of them
[14:08] <baudthief> sorry wrong window lol
[14:09] <linuxguymarshall> How to I get to my restricted drivers when it is not appearing on my taskbar?
[14:09] <Jarlaxle> !windows
[14:09] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[14:09] <Jarlaxle> o.O
[14:09] <flipstar> linuxguymarshall: just type restricted-manager
[14:10] <linuxguymarshall> K
[14:10] <matt1728> anyone know how to burn dvd with linux
[14:10] <flipstar> use k3b for e.g
[14:10] <Jucato> linuxguymarshall: K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager?
[14:10] <matt1728> you can rip with K3B?
[14:10] <linuxguymarshall> jucato:I don't have an advance tab
[14:10] <genii> linuxguymarshall: As flipstar suggests, alt-f2   then: restricted-manager
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:11] <Jucato> linuxguymarshall: hm? are you sure you're in System Settings? (and on Gutsy)
[14:11] <flipstar> hi BluesKaj
[14:11] <tzd> linuxguymarshall: im using Firefox, v.2.x. I've changed a few startup services to speed up my computer. I'm not quite sure about which services I've changed though :/ Is there a setting for "default" service values ? For instance, I've got "networking" and "avahi-daemon" set to stopped... that's the 2 i can think of that could do something like this?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> hi flipstar
[14:12] <linuxguymarshall> Jucanto: I did the  restricted-manager command and I recived an error
[14:13] <flipstar> linuxguymarshall: what kind of error ?
[14:13] <linuxguymarshall> tzd: Try enabling everything and see if that helps
[14:13] <linuxguymarshall> tzd:Then use process of elimination to fix it
[14:13] <tzd> linuxguymarshall: will do. Do i need to reboot to activate the services?
[14:14] <flipstar> tzd: if konqueror works well just try reinstall ff
[14:14] <tzd> flipstar: i'll try that as well. Thanks!
[14:14] <linuxguymarshall> tzd:Yeah, try out a different browser
[14:14] <tzd> linuxguymarshall: cool, thanks! :)
[14:18] <linuxguymarshall> When I upgrade to KDE 4 should I install the "kde4" package or the "kde4-core" package?
[14:19] <Jucato> linuxguymarshall: instructions are over at #kubuntu-kde4
[14:19] <tzd> flipstar , linuxguymarshall: just tried with konqueror and it works great. tried with the website (http://packages.ubuntu.com/). When trying in FF it loads the title and stops. It's like it stops loading when there's a small loading time... does that make any sense?
[14:19] <linuxguymarshall> jucato:thanks
[14:20] <flipstar> tzd: did you changed some ff settings in about:config ?
[14:21] <AShrEd> how can I change my current resolution by editing a file?
[14:22] <flipstar> change xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[14:22] <AShrEd> already done
[14:22] <flipstar> oh wait..
[14:22] <flipstar> it doesnt change your current res
[14:22] <BluesKaj> got my pyTivo server working on this pc, but it recognizes mpg only..I have an ISO file movie on the HDD but my CLI chops are lacking in the mount area ...done some searching, but none of the suggestions are working for me . The ISO file is in my /home/user/ folder , the command seems to be,' mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/cdrom ' . I tried changing cdrom to dev/hda2 or just hda2 , but no dice :(
[14:22] <AShrEd> yes
[14:22] <AShrEd> it doesn0t
[14:22] <AShrEd> *doesn't
[14:23] <AShrEd> I edited xorg to support a new resolution
[14:23] <flipstar> you need to restart X for that..or use an application
[14:23] <AShrEd> I can't access kubuntu
[14:23] <AShrEd> that's why I must edit a file
[14:23] <tzd> flipstar: no i haven't. Think I've found it though... I recently installed adblock and tried disabling it.. it seems like it works now. I'll be back if problem persists ;) Thanks for your help!
[14:24] <AShrEd> last time I changed my resolution, restarted X and then blank screen
[14:24] <AShrEd> if I delete new resolution's line on xorg will the system boot?
[14:25] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you might have to use sudo before..mount -o loop <iso> <mountpoint> is correct for standart iso
[14:26] <linuxguymarshall> What is the proper way to install NVIDIA Drivers on Kubuntu?
[14:26] <flipstar> !nvidia
[14:27] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:27] <linuxguymarshall> ubotu:Thank you
[14:27] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[14:28] <synteth> i've read the website that could help me about my sound problem, i've done the things, but still's the same. do you know what to do?
[14:29] <flipstar> the sound test doesnt work ?
[14:30] <synteth> work
[14:30] <synteth> but nothing more
[14:30] <flipstar> so the application you use might try the wrong device
[14:31] <synteth> ok
[14:31] <synteth> now i have the sound
[14:31] <synteth> but
[14:31] <synteth> it's really low
[14:32] <jpatrick> synteth: checked kmix?
[14:33] <synteth> ok
[14:33] <synteth> done
[14:33] <synteth> xD
[14:34] <synteth> i didnt know it's "front"
[14:35] <synteth> thank you
[14:35] <cannon> is there a way to show widgets like in vista sidebar?
[14:35] <cannon> hey synteth
[14:35] <cannon> !sidebar
[14:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sidebar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <cannon> !widgets
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <tekstacy> How do
[14:49] <tekstacy> grrr
[14:49] <jpatrick> tekstacy: say: "grrr"
[14:50] <neville_> Grrr - -
[14:50] <tekstacy> How do I give my users access to read and write to a folder, but not delete existing files.
[14:51]  * tekstacy is having a cixelsid tryping day....
[14:51] <jpatrick> tekstacy: make a common group for them and: chown you:commonGroup and chmod 775 folder
[14:52] <tekstacy> ok. cool. I thought  it involved chmod, but what does the 775 mean?
[14:52] <jpatrick> tekstacy: read, write for users and groups
[14:52] <joseph> tekstacy: it's the octal representation of what jpatrick said
[14:53] <jpatrick> everyone else can just view
[14:54] <tekstacy> Will they be able to delete?  It's ok for them to edit, but giving them delete power scares me
[14:54] <jpatrick> tekstacy: yeah...
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:58] <cannon> hi
[14:58] <tekstacy> ActionParsnip, hey
[15:00] <tekstacy> grrr, back to the boring drudgery of work.   Thanks for the help guys.
[15:00] <tekstacy> part
[15:00] <tekstacy> damn I really suck today
[15:04] <Regital> how many OS´s can i install on my comp?
[15:04] <Hirvinen> Many.
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> Regital: alot!
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> probably almost unlimited
[15:05] <Regital> kk... just making sure
[15:08] <SQLDarkly> under kcontrol I am setting up Samba. However, everytime I create a new Samba user from the Unix users on the right hand side of the config screen. After I add one and click ok it never adds it
[15:11] <acbchoi> exit
[15:19] <vikku_> ]#ubuntu
[15:20] <vikku_> #ubuntu
[15:22] <marjan_> dudes i have bittorrent but i cant found it do i need bittornado to d/l???
[15:23] <SQLDarkly> Any torrent file requires a torrent downloader yes
[15:23] <marjan_> k
[15:26] <marjan_> how do i unset away on konverstation
[15:26] <jpatrick> marjan_: it's in the first menu..
[15:26] <marjan_> ha
[15:26] <marjan_> ?
[15:27] <marjan_> i cant found it
[15:29] <genii> /back
[15:29] <marjan_> 10x
[15:29] <marjan_> you are genii
[15:29] <marjan_> :)
[15:30] <genii> marjan_: Sometimes simpler to type in than look for menus
[15:30] <marjan_> lol
[15:30] <marjan_> indeed
[15:30] <marjan_> thank u very a lot
[15:31] <flipstar> where can i get libalsa-dev from ?
[15:34] <ritalin-school> hai
[15:34] <ritalin-school> im looking for a kde 4 based easy to use and setup OS
[15:34] <ritalin-school> would you say kubuntu fits that? :D
[15:37] <aaroncampbell> Well, it seems that I messed up my user account.  I wanted to add a group to it (avg), but ran this command: sudo usermod -G avg aaroncampbell
[15:37] <aaroncampbell> It seems that rather than add a new group, it removed all my old ones and replaced them with avg. Now I don't have sudo permissions.
[15:37] <aaroncampbell> Is there any way to find out what groups I was part of before?  Or is there a way to see what groups I started as a part of?
[15:37] <aaroncampbell> I honestly don't know how I'm going to get sudo access back, but I need to
[15:37] <ritalin-school> also does kde 4 come with kubuntu?
[15:38] <hydrogen> !kde4
[15:38] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:38] <ritalin-school> danke
[15:39] <flipstar> aaroncampbell: you need to add yourself in the sudoers file
[15:40] <cannon> hi, how is everybody?
[15:40] <cannon> hey flipstar
[15:40] <flipstar> hi cannon
[15:41] <aaroncampbell> flipstar: where is that?  And how?
[15:41] <flipstar> in /etc it is..try man sudoers
[15:42] <cannon> is there anything you don't know flipstar? :P
[15:42] <flipstar> sure
[15:42] <cannon> ;)
[15:44] <cannon> quick question for ya flipstar
[15:44] <cannon> not sure if it's my kde desktop or compiz
[15:44] <cannon> but when I click on another window it doesn't put it to front
[15:44] <cannon> only if I click the window handle
[15:44] <ritalin-school> what is the default file system in kubuntu?
[15:44] <de4dsnake> hello, ive configured a dark colour scheme on my kde, but when i hover the mouse coursor over some buttons of non-kde apps, the yellow help text box appears with white font (unreadable). How can i change that font colour or text box colour?
[15:44] <cannon> ext3 i think
[15:45] <ritalin-school> what file system do you guys use?
[15:45] <cannon> i use ext3
[15:45] <cannon> but it's not windows compatible
[15:45] <ritalin-school> is it the best for desktop usuage?
[15:45] <de4dsnake> it is, i can read ext3 on windows
[15:45] <ritalin-school> no window here
[15:45] <de4dsnake> using an extra driver
[15:45] <cannon> ah, ok
[15:45] <ritalin-school> thats what im trying to get rid of
[15:46] <aaroncampbell> flipstar: how can I modify that file if I don't have sudo access?
[15:46] <aaroncampbell> I can't seem to su root ...
[15:48] <cannon> why not just open a root shell?
[15:49] <genii> cannon: Because it will ask for user (sudo rights) passwd
[15:49] <kristjan_> !ipv6
[15:49] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:49] <ritalin-school> im gonna go with XFS
[15:49] <cannon> and ya don't have the password?
[15:49] <hydrogen> aaroncampbell: you are pretty much out of luck
[15:49] <hydrogen> aaroncampbell: you need to boot off a livecd
[15:49] <hydrogen> chroot in
[15:49] <hydrogen> and fix it
[15:50] <hydrogen> or maybe boot into single user runlevel
[15:50] <hydrogen> can't recall if that requires the password or not
[15:50] <aaroncampbell> hydrogen: I can probably do it with a live CD ...the real question is...why can't I log in as root?  It's almost like it doesn't exist, or like it set a bogus password on it
[15:50] <genii> aaroncampbell: I would recommend to boot to recovery, add yourself back in to normal groups including adm by editing /etc/group
[15:50] <hydrogen> aaroncampbell: ubuntu does not set a root passwored
[15:50] <genii> aaroncampbell: root login is disabled by default
[15:51] <hydrogen> because they feel its more secure
[15:51] <hydrogen> even though, as you can see, it causes its own troubles
[15:51] <aaroncampbell> well, it might be...until you are working too late and you type a command wrong ;(
[15:51] <ritalin-school> anyway to issue kubuntu specific commands when making file systems?
[15:51] <aaroncampbell> genii: What are the "normal" groups?
[15:51] <hydrogen> In the future aaroncampbell, gpasswd -a user group is a bit more friendly
[15:51] <genii> aaroncampbell: For future reference, use the usermod command with -a when adding into a group.eg: sudo usermod -G -a newgroup myname
[15:52] <genii> aaroncampbell: Wait a minute I'll pastebin the content of mine for reference
[15:52] <aaroncampbell> genii: I know...I should have, and it was my own fault.
[15:52] <hydrogen> hydrogen@Yes:~/kde/src/amarok/src$ groups
[15:52] <hydrogen> hydrogen adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin vboxusers
[15:52] <aaroncampbell> thanks a ton genii
[15:52] <hydrogen> you may not need all of those
[15:53] <flipstar> aaroncampbell: recovery mode would probably work
[15:54] <genii> aaroncampbell: my sudo user is just called "user", here is a dump of /etc/group with a grep for user http://pastebin.ca/946251
[15:54] <cannon> how do I make windows come to the front by not having to click it's handle?
[15:54] <flipstar> cannon: theres a plugin for that in ccsm
[15:54] <cannon> which one?
[15:54] <flipstar> easy visibility
[15:55] <cannon> i don't see it
[15:55] <flipstar> filter for visibility
[15:55] <flipstar> err visible
[15:56] <cannon> only one showing for that is opacify
[15:56] <flipstar> this makes windows visible by hover mouse over them..
[15:56] <warren_> hi
[15:57] <aaroncampbell> Thanks guys.  I have used live CDs before, but what is "recovery mode"  is it a specific option on the live CD?  Or is it something I can do without the CD?
[15:57] <flipstar> aaroncampbell: no,its a option in grub
[15:57] <flipstar> yes, you can this without the cd
[15:58] <aaroncampbell> Ok, thanks a ton flipstar and genii, and wish me luck ;)
[16:13] <Tann> How would I go about setting up my default sound card?
[16:14] <Tann> er, setting a default sound card
[16:16] <cannon> ack, K3b won't burn my files
[16:16] <cannon> i keep getting an error
[16:17] <genii> Tann: What is the result of command: lspci | grep Audio                <- note uppercase A in Audio
[16:21] <aaroncampbell> Thanks genii and flipstar ...I added myself back to the groups I needed via recovery mode and everything seems to be working great again
[16:21] <genii> Tann: If you have only one card there should be only one result of this command. If you have multiple results (more than 1 sound device) you can set the default one by: sudo asoundconf set-default-card <put name here>
[16:22] <genii> aaroncampbell: Good :)
[16:25] <Tann> genii: what part of the result is the name? http://pastebin.com/d2694e8b6
[16:28] <genii> Tann: To find the name to use, use: asoundconf list
[16:28] <tekstacy> Where can I find the log of who has logged in to my box
[16:29] <genii> tekstacy: in /var/log/auth.log   and it's archives
[16:29] <tekstacy> Or find out who is currently logged on for that matter?
[16:29] <tekstacy> genii, thanks
[16:29] <genii> tekstacy: w to see show's currently on
[16:31] <tekstacy> awsome.
[16:31] <genii> tekstacy: np
[16:31] <amerigo> ##windows
[16:31] <genii> tekstacy: For samba users, use  smbstatus
[16:32] <mosab> How can I activate Compiz on my KDE desktop? it's running on the Gnome session so hardware should be fine
[16:34] <matt1728> does anyone know the commands to install java?
[16:34] <mosab> matt1728: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[16:34] <tekstacy> genii, is there something better then Kate to view the logs?
[16:34] <matt1728> thanks
[16:35] <mosab> matt1728: you might wanna install sun-java6-plugin too
[16:35] <matt1728> kk any other plugins?
[16:35] <mosab> matt1728: nah, that's the plugin for your browser
[16:36] <genii> tekstacy: Usually I'm at command-line so using:  more /var/log/auth.log             or less . Sometimes just to see end of log using: tail /var/log/auth.log
[16:37] <flipstar> mosab: you might use taif -f /var/log/auth.log for further monitoring of logins
[16:38] <mosab> flipstar: I think you are talking to someone else
[16:38] <flipstar> oh..sry
[16:38] <mosab> flipstar: no problem
[16:38] <mosab> flipstar: could you tell me how to enable compiz in kubuntu though?
[16:38] <tekstacy> genii, awsome. You answered a few more questions I didn't even know I had till I looked in that folder
[16:39] <tekstacy> :)
[16:39] <flipstar> mosab: sure..if it is installed just type compiz --replace &&emerald --replace
[16:39] <flipstar> where emerald is the window decorator
[16:41] <mosab> flipstar: sweet:D had to install emerald for the decoration to work
[16:41] <mosab> now where do i configure compiz?
[16:42] <flipstar> in ccsm ..like it is on gnome
[16:44] <mosab> flipstar: found it. I know i am asking quite a bit, but how do i increase the cube sides here? in Gnome I just had to increase the virtual desktops
[16:44] <tekstacy> off to work....  Thanks guys.
[16:44] <cannon> !compiz | tekstacy
[16:44] <ubotu> tekstacy: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:44] <flipstar> same here..in ccsm>general>desktop size
[16:44] <cannon> good read, also shows to how make it load at startup
[16:45] <cannon> so as not to need to have your terminal running
[16:45] <cannon> ... to keep it open
[16:45] <flipstar> really..damn i had to write my own script for that once..
[16:45] <mosab> flipstar: oh that's different:) in gnome I used to do it from the desktop switcher applet
[16:46] <flipstar> compiz isn integrated in kde ..
[16:46] <tekstacy> Compiz looks cool, but I didn't see it helping me get anything acomplished faster
[16:46] <mosab> flipstar: yeah but KDE4 already has a nice deal of compiz stuff integrated, so I'm looking forward to 4.1
[16:47] <mosab> tekstacy: neither did it help me, but it has convinced a dozen people to install Linux already. I call that a gain
[16:47] <flipstar> the vista vs ubuntu vids on youtube are funny :)
[16:48] <mosab> flipstar: they forget to mention that one of my "converts" is running his compiz on 256MB ram:) I want to see vista doing *that*
[16:48] <tekstacy> Hey, I agree.  People switched to Vista because Aero looks cool, and aero really sucks, sucks hard
[16:49] <pure_x01> hello..   I have a Nokia n800 linux PDA and a Nokia E51 that i use togeather to get HSDPA surfing speeds to the PDA. It works perfect over bluetooth and i want to do the same with my Dell X1 ..  I have used linux for 10 years but i have never hooked up a phone over bluetooth. I have read something about using DUN but it seems a little bit old..  And i am not sure if PAN is eanbled on the E51 (atleast not documented)
[16:49] <mosab> tekstacy: nah come on:D the annoying "cancel or allow" faded, and the progress bar had a light glow which nobody would notice... didn't suck that bad
[16:50] <flipstar> pure_x01: kubuntu supports bluetooth if this is you question
[16:50] <pure_x01> flipstar: yes but how do i do use my phone as a proxy/modem so that i can do some mobile surfing
[16:51] <tekstacy> :)    Vista sucks, think:  "Two Computers, One Cup"
[16:51] <mosab> tekstacy: urgh, don't remind me!
[16:52] <tekstacy> :)
[16:52] <mosab> tekstacy: do you know where I can find that vid though? I wanna how a couple of friends react
[16:52] <tekstacy> Doesn't Vista have a problem with Samba?   Or did they fix that?
[16:53] <flipstar> pure_x01: did you tried setting the bluetooth device in knetworkmanager ?
[16:53] <genii> tekstacy: It's NTLM v2 on Vista by default but can be set to old auth way
[16:53] <tekstacy> mosab,  google, click video, should be near the top
[16:54] <tekstacy> genii, thanks.
[16:55] <genii> How to set Vista to use NTLM v1 by default: http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/codemonkeybusiness/viewblogpost.htm?p=339270746
[16:55] <pure_x01> flipstar: i did not know that it was possible .. will look in to that thanx
[16:57] <tekstacy> genii, looks simple enough.     Will I have any other headaches if I let a Vista box on my all-kubuntu lan?
[16:58] <tekstacy> crap,   er,  "mostly" kubuntu,   forgot grandma's silly xp box
[17:02] <tekstacy> grrr, back to work.  Thanks for the help guys.
[17:02] <tekstacy>  /p
[17:02] <tekstacy> :(
[17:02] <alexander_> que es esto
[17:03] <alexander_> no entiendo soy nuevo en kubuntu
[17:04] <lufthanza> any other suggestions for killing a runaway process?
[17:04] <Daisuke-Laptop> !es | alexander_
[17:04] <ubotu> alexander_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:06] <vbialoux> comment va votre bash ?
[17:06] <hydrogen> !fr | vbialoux
[17:06] <ubotu> vbialoux: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:07] <vbialoux> hey how do you do
[17:07] <Tann> does anyone know how to change xine's default sound device
[17:08] <Tann> hello
[17:08] <vbialoux> stop earing music !
[17:10] <dvoid> nice memory allocation in gdebi-kde ;)
[17:10] <dvoid> allocated like 1gb ram to install a 20mb deb package \o/
[17:17] <Tann> does anyone know how to change xine's default sound device
[17:17] <cannon> lol dvoid
[17:18]  * Daisuke-Laptop slaps enlightenment with a brick
[17:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> broken packages for the win!
[17:18] <cannon> ftl more like it! lol
[17:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> fixed
[17:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> turned out there was a file that was in two different packages
[17:23] <benpicco_> hi, can I get konqueror to use /media/$mountpoint/ instead of media:/sdc1/?
[17:24] <dvoid> cannon, its a known problem to, strange noone has fixed it
[17:24] <dvoid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/153943
[17:30] <DexterF> hi
[17:31] <DexterF> how come I have to firefox twice each time? first time I get startup notification, but the program wont come up.
[17:32] <MilitantPotato> DexterF: any chance it's loading?
[17:33] <DexterF> MilitantPotato: not that long. I checked back on ps, too
[17:33] <DexterF> simply gone
[17:33] <MilitantPotato> DexterF: try running it from konsole, see if it loads the first time
[17:33] <dvoid> DexterF, i have noticed the same thing, are u using "run" or something?  it usualy works first time if i use the "firefox icon ";)
[17:33] <DexterF> dvoid: I actually do run it from "run"
[17:34] <DexterF> use it so seldom I didn't bother putting it in the taskbar
[17:34] <MilitantPotato> ah, I've had that happen too
[17:34] <MilitantPotato> I wound up just binding it to a F key
[17:40] <AQ_LIVE> hi does anyone know how to change the SU rights?
[17:41] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: you mean sudo rights, right?
[17:41] <AQ_LIVE> yes
[17:41] <AQ_LIVE> :)
[17:41] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: sudo visudo
[17:41] <trappist> man sudoers for syntax
[17:47] <AQ_LIVE> how do I change the grub menu default boot? and how do I edit the software source list?
[17:48] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/apt/sources.list respectively
[17:50] <AQ_LIVE> it says no write permissions
[17:50] <AQ_LIVE> how do I change that
[17:50] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: both have to be edited as root, so use sudo
[17:52] <AQ_LIVE> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/x-troff-man"
[17:52] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: what editor are you using, and which file are you trying to edit.
[17:52] <Chamuco> Hi I installed dapper and one of my old file drives is a fat32 it is mounted but I am unable to write only read and can't change properties even as root using gksudo nautilus, how can I change the properties
[17:53] <Chamuco> is it in fstab and if so what do I write?
[17:53] <AQ_LIVE> I'm using terminal and I'm trying to edit the boot list
[17:53] <romunov> i'm having problems with installing kubuntu (and ubuntu) on a machine. the logo screen comes up and that's about as far as i can get. has anyone every experienced something similar?
[17:53] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: using what editor...
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> romunov: did you try booting safe graphics mode?
[17:53] <AQ_LIVE> so I need vi to edit it?
[17:53] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: no, but that's what I'd use
[17:53] <romunov> yes, but it doesn't get far
[17:54] <flipstar> AQ_LIVE: yes vi or nano or..whatever
[17:54] <romunov> the computer is at school, and i don't have access to it right now
[17:54] <romunov> perhaps i have written the error down here somewhere...
[17:54] <romunov> just a sec
[17:54] <romunov> if i wait long enough (and press ctrl+F1), it drops to "console"
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> romunov: ok..... so what graphics card do you have?
[17:56] <AQ_LIVE> does it come standard with kubuntu?
[17:56] <AQ_LIVE> I can't find it
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> AQ_LIVE: its vim
[17:57] <romunov> i don't have comp specs with me
[17:57] <trappist> !diskmounter | Chamuco
[17:57] <romunov> it's a fairly new comp
[17:57] <ubotu> Chamuco: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[17:57] <romunov> i don't hav ethe error message here with me
[17:57] <hdevalence_> I'm having an issue with my laserject 1020.. when i stfw, i found a fix where you build your own foo2zjs driver, but that's for old ubuntus it seems; apparently after 7.04 the driver works fine, and adept says my foo2zjs driver is good for a 1020, but when I try to add printer with the KDE wizard, the 1020 option isn't there
[17:57] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: vi?
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> romunov: well, I'd reccomend using Gutsy (7.10) if you can get your hands on a CD...
[17:58] <romunov> but it goes something along the lines that linux is unable to find hda1
[17:58] <romunov> i've downloaded the latest cd from the site
[17:58] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: actually some goofy minimalist version of vi ships with it.  the first thing I usually do on a new install is sudo apt-get install vim
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> romunov: so this is after it has been installed?
[18:00] <Regital> hey
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> hey Regital
[18:00] <romunov> nosrednaekim: that's right. the system runs well off liveCD
[18:00] <Regital> i have samsung T10, how do i get amarok to recognise the device?
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> romunov: ah... ok, does this computer have two hard drives in it?
[18:01] <Jarlaxle> o.O
[18:01] <Jarlaxle> O.o
[18:01] <AQ_LIVE> so I just type the same in vi?
[18:02] <romunov> nosrednaekim: no, but it is sata
[18:02] <romunov> i've read somewhere that this might be the problem
[18:02] <AQ_LIVE> sudo edit /boot/grub/menu1.st
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> romunov: can you boot into failsafe mode?
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> AQ_LIVE: "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[18:02] <romunov> nosrednaekim: no, i can't. i do get dropped into shell after a few minutes of waiting. but the number of commands is limited
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> romunov: so its a busybox shell?
[18:04] <trappist> AQ_LIVE: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst - but maybe use nano if you're not comfortable with vim
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> romunov: yeah...it may have something to do with it being a sata drive, but I don't have any experience with that.
[18:08] <cannon> i need help ... I have lost access to one of my sda's
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> cannon: ok..
[18:09] <AQ_LIVE> when I try either sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.1st there's nothing to change
[18:09] <romunov> nosrednaekim: thanks
[18:09] <AQ_LIVE> why is that
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> AQ_LIVE: not a "one" its a "L"
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> a small L
[18:10] <AQ_LIVE> lol damn thanks man
[18:10] <cannon> if I click on Storage Media it doesn't show any of my drives at all
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> cannon: run, from the command line "mount" and see if its listed there
[18:11] <cannon> k
[18:11] <cannon> command line = terminal?
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> ya
[18:11] <cannon> !pastebin
[18:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:13] <cannon> http://pastebin.com/m25b497ae is the result nosrednaekim
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> How do I change this: title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> root            (hd0,4)
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=8a323b8b-ede8-46fc-ac69-f3bda989e1e6 ro quiet splash
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> quiet
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> root            (hd0,4)
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=8a323b8b-ede8-46fc-ac69-f3bda989e1e6 ro single
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[18:13] <Signil> can't play a .vob..vlc and kaffein,mplayer cant play it .. type "Netscape VLC Multimedia Plugin"
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> title           Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> root            (hd0,4)
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> kernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin
[18:13] <cannon> ugh, pastebin it! lol
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[18:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> quiet
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> # ones.
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> title           Other operating systems:
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[18:13] <AQ_LIVE> root
[18:13] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[18:13] <jpatrick> !paste | AQ_LIVE
[18:13] <ubotu> AQ_LIVE: please see above
[18:14] <cannon> did ya get my link nosrednaekim?
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> cannon: yeah.. I did
[18:14] <jpatrick> AQ_LIVE: please use the pastebin in the future, thank you
[18:14] <cannon> sda is my kubuntu install ... I seem to have lost sda3
[18:15] <Signil> can't play a .vob..vlc and kaffein,mplayer cant play it .. type "Netscape VLC Multimedia Plugin"
[18:15] <jpatrick> AQ_LIVE: thank you :)
[18:15] <AQ_LIVE> sorry
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> cannon: ok, go to system settings->advanced->discs and partitions
[18:15] <AQ_LIVE> but do you know the answer to my question
[18:15] <cannon> hmm whre is that?
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> cannon: in systemsettings
[18:16] <cannon> ta, found it
[18:17] <cannon> it appears to be no longer mounted
[18:17] <AQ_LIVE> n=aqlive@linuxkungfu.org
[18:17] <cannon> could you remind me how to mount it pls?
[18:18] <bmac2> I still haven't found a solution for my squashfs error when trying to install on my dual xeon server
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> cannon: go into admin mode and then enable it
[18:18] <bmac2> anyone know the fix or the workaround to get the livecd to boot or install on a machine that gives a squashfs error?
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> bmac2: that would be a problem with the LiveCD
[18:19] <cannon> should I enable at startup nosrednaekim?
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> cannon: if you want
[18:19] <bmac2> nosrednaekim, no, I find lots of reference to it being a known bug, and it doesn't matter which cd I use, ubuntu, kubuntu
[18:20] <bmac2> nosrednaekim, and I find lots of references to the "fix" online but no where can I find out how to fix it.  It seems a unique problem with some dual processor machines.
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> bmac2: interesting.
[18:20] <bmac2> I have spent 3 days reading the internet
[18:20] <bmac2> lots of talk of the bug
[18:20] <cannon> nosrednaekim: when I navigate to Storage Media it doesn't show any of my drives ... still saying loading directory 0%
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> cannon: try "mount" again
[18:20] <cannon> k
[18:21] <flipstar> bmac2: does it get recognized during livecd session ?
[18:21] <bmac2> I can't boot livecd
[18:21] <bmac2> I can't get that far
[18:21] <bmac2> it bombs during bootup
[18:21] <bmac2> I can install freebsd, slackware, etc
[18:21] <bmac2> on the same machine fine
[18:22] <bmac2> I have checked the cds
[18:22] <flipstar> i've never heard of sqashfs..is it official supported by linux ?
[18:22] <bmac2> used the cds to install on another machine, fine
[18:22] <bmac2> it is used in the boot process of the livecd
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: its the filesystems for liveCD's
[18:23] <cannon> ./dev/sda3 on /media/sda3 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) ... thats what am getting now nosrednaekim
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> thats good.
[18:23] <bmac2> I am just driving myself up a tree with this.  THIS is insane, can't install onto a perfectly good dell server
[18:23] <cannon> ok, i have access to it now
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> just navigate to "/media/sda3" in konqueror
[18:23] <cannon> if I reboot will it allow me to access storage media again?
[18:24] <flipstar> bmac2: you might boot a debian based cd and install via debootstrap
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> storage media is just the media:/ kioslave
[18:25] <AQ_LIVE> can anyone help med becomming a registred user here
[18:25] <AQ_LIVE> I can t figure out the web page help thing
[18:25] <bmac2> AQ_LIVE, type  /msg nickserv register *password*
[18:25] <AQ_LIVE> where should I type it
[18:26] <bmac2> replace the password and the stars with what you want
[18:26] <bmac2> in any window
[18:26] <bmac2> doesn't matter
[18:26] <bmac2> then every time you log in, it will say this name is owned, please log in, or something.  Then you type /msg nickserv *password* to log in
[18:27] <bmac2> AQ_LIVE, did that work?
[18:30] <przemek_> !pl
[18:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[18:52] <Makuseru> do i need to convert a .daa to an .iso to mount it? or will kubuntu mount a .daa?
[18:54] <RogueJediX> Makuseru: I'm not 100% sure, but I think you have to convert it with PowerISO or UltraISO, I forget which one
[18:54] <genii> PowerISO
[18:55] <Makuseru> is there a linux port for poweriso?
[18:55] <genii> Yes. Also perhaps look at AcetoneISO
[18:56] <lg188_> hey _ always i use a program it popups : error , application/octet-stream ir somthing ...
[18:57] <lg188_> or*
[18:57] <lg188_> also when start-up
[18:58] <lg188_> ..any body home ???
[18:59] <genii> Makuseru: Perhaps look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html#more-213
[18:59] <Makuseru> alright, thanks
[19:02] <Aw0L> is there a way to make the administrator prompts actually prompt for a root password, after setting a root password?
[19:03] <Aw0L> like for accessing adept for instance?
[19:04] <genii> lg188_: Try deleting ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/application/octet-stream.desktop
[19:06] <stefan__> hey.. id like to help to translate k/ubunto to german.. where can i start?
[19:09] <ImLiz> Hey all, why can't konqueror connect to hotmail or msn?
[19:10] <hagabaka> do other browsers connect? can you ping?
[19:10] <ImLiz> yes I have firefox and it connects, konqueror connect to yahoo's classic look, but not hotmail
[19:11] <ImLiz> dont know how to ping
[19:13] <ImLiz> any1 know why not or if there's some sort of upgrade?
[19:13] <genii> Aw0L: Look at section of manpage for sudoers which deals with rootpw
[19:14] <Aw0L> gene_, thanks
[19:15] <Fujisan> hello, how can i open saved session in Konsole?
[19:16] <Signil> why cant i play this .vob when i can play others :(
[19:16] <Fujisan> i was first
[19:16] <Fujisan> smiley emo
[19:17] <Fujisan> you need to use the vobplayer
[19:17] <Fujisan> Signil:
[19:17] <jthomas> Hello!  Will 32bit *debs run on a 64bit Kubuntu install?
[19:17] <Fujisan> if you multiple it by 2 yes
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: you will need to use getlibs
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: and if there is a 64bit deb available.. use that
[19:18] <jthomas> how does one use getlibs?  just install it?
[19:19] <Signil> hmmm
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: I'm not sure... there is a nice forum thread on it
[19:19] <jthomas> I'll dig for that then, thanks!
[19:19] <Fujisan> dig out
[19:19] <Fujisan> bye
[19:20] <matt__> does anyone know why nsgviewer plugin is crashing
[19:20] <Fujisan> its cuz you need to virusscan more often
[19:21] <Fujisan> oh
[19:21] <matt1728> what's a good virrus program for linux?
[19:21] <Fujisan> sorry i mean bugscan
[19:21] <jpatrick> !virus | matt1728
[19:21] <ubotu> matt1728: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:21] <matt1728> oh how do i do that ?
[19:21] <Fujisan> jpatrick:  happy patty day
[19:21] <Fujisan> happy bd
[19:21] <Fujisan> :o
[19:21] <jpatrick> Fujisan: thanks
[19:23] <flipstar> you have birthday..? cool gratulations!
[19:24] <stefan__> doah. linux NEEDS virusprotection! if a process i taken over by an attacker/virus this app most likely will run in userspace. and Where is all importand data that can be stolen? in userspcae!
[19:24] <stefan__> -d+t
[19:24] <matt1728> is there a linux virus software/
[19:25] <flipstar> there are no linux viruses in the wild
[19:25] <matt1728> ahh
[19:25] <flipstar> virus scanner on unix are for windows viruses
[19:25] <matt1728> how do i do a bug scan?
[19:27] <lg188_> genii: thnx sorry for late response
[19:27] <stefan__> matt1728: there are some tools that scan for rootkits locally like chkrootkit/rkhunter
[19:28] <stefan__> matt1728: if you want to scan for remote vulns then use nessus
[19:28] <matt1728> as a command?
[19:29] <stefan__> apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit
[19:29] <stefan__> to install
[19:29] <stefan__> then rkhunter -c
[19:29] <stefan__> and chkrootkit
[19:29] <stefan__> nessus isnt that trivial
[19:29] <stefan__> google for it
[19:30] <matt1728> thanks
[19:30] <stefan__> np
[19:31] <matt1728> so this looks for viruses and bugs
[19:31] <stefan__> no
[19:31] <stefan__> it looks for installed rootkits (like windows trojans.. not really but alike)
[19:32] <matt1728> k cool thanks
[19:32] <matt1728> one more: do you know how to fix nsgviewer plugin crashing?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> How does one delete the contents of an isomount folder that's no longer needed ?
[19:33] <matt1728> tried right click?
[19:35] <tyler> how do i auto submit a crash report?
[19:35] <tyler> without just pasting crash file?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> the move to trash gives this error , "Could not rename file /home/user/isomount "
[19:35] <matt1728> open the folder as root maybe
[19:35] <flipstar> tyler: apport does this
[19:35] <tyler> flipstar: thnx
[19:39] <tyler> in konsole is there a easy way for highlighted tex t o be copied? i don't like how i have to right click and copy every time
[19:39] <Aw0L> is there a way to change the "system settings" back to the standard KDE Control Center layout?
[19:40] <matt1728> tyler:dont think so
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> Aw0L: just run "kcontrol"
[19:40] <Aw0L> tyler, shift+insert?
[19:40] <matt1728> thats copy
[19:40] <matt1728> paste i mean
[19:40] <kernco> tyler:Highlight it, then middle click where you want to paste?
[19:40] <Aw0L> nosrednaekim, thanks - I didn't realize it was a different program
[19:41] <tyler> matt1728: dang
[19:41] <tyler> Aw0L: thats paste
[19:41] <tyler> kernco: highlighting it doesn't copy it
[19:41] <kernco> darn
[19:41] <tyler> woah. middle click works but shift-insert doesn't
[19:41] <tyler> thats odd
[19:42] <kernco> That's a pretty traditional UNIX behavior, konsole should think about supporting it
[19:42] <matt1728> shift insert is paste
[19:42] <tyler> yeah
[19:42] <Aw0L> whoops, sorry :(
[19:42] <BluesKaj> ctrl + v
[19:42] <tyler> matt1728: shift insert doesn't work unless you manually select copy.
[19:43] <matt1728> yea
[19:43] <matt1728> no it works if you paste from someplace else
[19:43] <tyler> matt1728: but middle button works if you highlight
[19:43] <matt1728> i dont have a middle buton
[19:43] <matt1728> lol
[19:43] <matt1728> laptop
[19:43] <tyler> matt1728: left and right together function the same
[19:43] <matt1728> ahh
[19:44] <matt1728> oh nice
[19:44] <matt1728> thanks
[19:44] <matt1728> never knew that
[19:45] <matt1728> is there a better browser than firefox/
[19:45] <tyler> depends on what your quantification of better is
[19:45] <matt1728> well faster i guess but in general opinion
[19:46] <matt1728> is konqueror better than firefox?
[19:46] <kernco> sometimes
[19:46] <Fujisan> no
[19:47] <tyler> i like opera. it seems a bit quicker
[19:47] <tin> it can be faster on some pages, it's does a few ACID3 tests more than firefox2 iirc
[19:47] <tyler> firefox is good because most sites are designed around it and will look slightly off if not viewed in it
[19:47] <Fujisan> safari for windows on wine is even quicker than konquerer
[19:47] <matt1728> ahh
[19:48] <tyler> konqueror does not display a lot of pages correctly. well how they designer imagined them to display anyway
[19:48] <stefan__> yay browserwar :)
[19:48] <matt1728> yea for me flashplayer doesnt work in it
[19:48] <tin> i like konq's speed, but i also like the firefox extensions i use
[19:48] <matt1728> its installed but videos dont load
[19:48] <kernco> The release with 4.1 is going to be a lot better
[19:48] <tyler> stefan__: not rreally a war, we are providing the pros and cons of different browsers, thus promoting diversity ;)
[19:48] <kernco> Since it's using webkit
[19:49] <matt1728> ;p;
[19:49] <tyler> I like webkit better than KHTML
[19:49] <matt1728> !webkit
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <tyler> i'm goingto have to try safari under wine
[19:49] <stefan__> i hate that firefox on linux ist much slower (try mtv or any.. colorful.. flashy, javascripty.. sites)
[19:49] <kernco> I think safari uses webkit, so konqueror should behave similar in terms of how it displays websites
[19:50] <tin> stefan__: they're getting a LOT faster in ff3
[19:50] <Fujisan> why do we still use application with all the features of one application being restricted to 1 application why is computing not os ubiquitous
[19:50] <tyler> firefox on linux has trouble with a lot of userend javscript stuff, on slower machines any way
[19:50] <stefan__> tin: really?
[19:50] <tin> gmail and comcast's tv guide are much nicer in ff3
[19:50] <Fujisan> gecko rendering engine versus webkit
[19:50] <matt1728> what's ff3?
[19:50] <flipstar> ff3 is very nice but still uses a lot of ram&cpu amount
[19:50] <flipstar> firefox 3
[19:50] <tyler> matt1728: firefox 3
[19:51] <matt1728> ahh
[19:51] <tin> although take note, if you try ff3, make sure you flush the cache and stuff when you change, i got tons of crashes otherwise
[19:51] <Fujisan> flip flap 3
[19:51] <tyler> i like Dillo ;)
[19:51] <matt1728> is it beta still?
[19:51] <tin> yes
[19:51] <root> HOLA
[19:51] <root> GHYU
[19:51] <tyler> root: you shouldn't irc as root
[19:52] <tin> flipstar: ram usage has gone down a bit, and although cpu usage it about that same, it's much faster
[19:52] <root> FR5HGGY
[19:52] <flipstar> tin: when downloading cpu usage is very high here..
[19:53] <Fujisan> i really hate web2.0 it makes octa core cpus a necessity
[19:53] <Fujisan> all this flash and web2.0 crap
[19:54] <Fujisan> whatever happend to normal text websites
[19:54] <flipstar> web2.0 lol thats bullshit
[19:54] <BluesKaj> jst for your info , there's no option to delete the isomount contents incuding root , so far
[19:54] <lascar> which packages do I have to install to get mp4 and aac support in amarok?
[19:54] <flipstar> lascar: try kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:54] <Fujisan> lascar: windows xp
[19:55] <flipstar> oO
[19:55] <lascar> fujisan: what?
[19:55] <Fujisan> joke :)
[19:55] <lascar> figured.  'Twas vague.
[19:55] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you did unmounted the iso and now cant delete the mount directory ?
[19:56]  * Signil is away: BedTime
[19:56] <lascar> flipstar: I don't see mp4 support in the list of packages to be installed
[19:56] <jussio1> !away > Signil
[19:56] <BluesKaj> flipstar, yes , i tried it mounted and unmounted
[19:56] <cannon_> hey guys
[19:56] <cannon_> is there an alternative to k3d?
[19:57] <matt1728> just install libxine1-ffmpeg its mp3 and m4a
[19:57] <cannon_> k3b sorry
[19:57] <Signil> noisy! :/
[19:57] <benpicco_> lascar: you mean mp3, don't you? mp4 is video
[19:57] <benpicco_> cannon_: there is brasaero
[19:57] <lascar> sorry
[19:57] <lascar> m4a
[19:58] <cannon_> i mean a burner sorry
[19:58] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you maybe have to delete that emtpy mountpoint with sudo
[19:58] <lascar> !aac
[19:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:58] <flipstar> m4a is mpeg afair
[19:58] <BluesKaj> flipstar empty mountpoint? , it's not empty
[19:58] <flipstar> you said you did unmounted..?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> ok flipstar , I had to umount it 2wice , but it worked , thx
[20:04] <cannon_> anybody used nautilus-cd-burner?
[20:04] <benpicco_> cannon_: tried brasaero yet?
[20:05] <cannon_> i'll look
[20:05] <benpicco_> btw.: it´s spelled brasero ;-)
[20:05] <cannon_> i can't find it in package manager
[20:06] <cannon_> i tried to load k3b but it's not opening for some reason
[20:06] <flipstar> cannon_: try launching from konsole to see whats happening
[20:06] <benpicco_> if you start it from terminal, what output does it give?
[20:06] <cannon_> k
[20:07] <cannon_> no response in terminal
[20:08] <cannon_> brb, rebooting
[20:09] <flipstar> anyone ever get audacious 1.5.0 working ?
[20:12] <cannon> still won't load up
[20:12] <cannon> i need another burner as it won't load :(
[20:13] <benpicco_> cannon: do you get any error messages when you start k3b from terminal?
[20:13] <cannon> nup
[20:14] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ K3b
[20:14] <cannon> bash: K3b: command not found
[20:14] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ k3b
[20:14] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$
[20:14] <benpicco_> that´s strange
[20:14] <cannon> the icon bounces on the mouse cursor
[20:14] <cannon> and it shows an egg timer in the task panel
[20:15] <cannon> but then disapears
[20:15] <cannon> maybe removing and reinstalling might help
[20:15] <benpicco_> yes, this has nothing to say, happens whenever you start anything
[20:15] <benpicco_> you should give it a try
[20:17] <cannon> trying again
[20:17] <cannon> still the same
[20:17] <cannon> so i need another app
[20:18] <benpicco_> and other kde apps work?
[20:18] <genii> cannon: Try removing ~/.kde/share/config/k3brc
[20:19] <genii> It will re-create when you run the app again
[20:19]  * hubhub is away: Parti pour l'instant.
[20:28] <Biggles> hey how come when i install a theme in DeKorator or w/e it doesnt show up on the themes list? like a little box flashes like it was installing and then its like nothing happened...
[20:34] <niceday> good evening. could you give me the name of a good video-podcast programme for KDE, please ? Like gPodder for Gnome. Thank you
[20:36] <benpicco_> why don't you just use on gPodder?
[20:36] <^u^> !podcast | niceday
[20:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:38] <niceday> benpicco_: I prefer KDE. I'll use gPodder if there won't be any for KDE.
[20:39] <benpicco_> I don't really know what gPodder does, but all video editing apps coming in my mind were gtk ones
[20:40] <genii> !info kitty
[20:40] <flipstar> have a nice day.. im out
[20:40] <ubotu> kitty (source: kitty): a Qt/KDE based RSS podcast and video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 251 kB, installed size 652 kB
[20:40] <genii> !info gpodder
[20:40] <niceday> benpicco_: it's no editing software. It's like RSS with multimedia (video) content
[20:40] <ubotu> gpodder (source: gpodder): A GTK+ Media aggregator and Podcast catcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-1 (gutsy), package size 150 kB, installed size 916 kB
[20:41] <martijn81> isn't /dev/sda the full disk including the mbr?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: yes
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> oh wait.... hrm... maybe not
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> I don't know if dd'ing a drive copys the mbr
[20:41] <genii> Yes, it does
[20:42] <genii> If you dd /dev/sda  it will copy the mbr plus all subpartition information
[20:42] <vlt> Hello. I installed compiz-kde on Kubuntu 7.10. Whenever I run `compiz --replace` I get a messsage "kde window decorator has crashed". Any idea how to solve this?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> vlt: install emerald
[20:43] <vlt> nosrednaekim: thank you
[20:44] <martijn81> no
[20:44] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: IT DOES
[20:44] <martijn81> oops
[20:44] <MoZarD> msg ns register mozard k12345 k123456
[20:44] <Biggles> how do i fix my scroller bar in firefox?
[20:44] <Biggles> its like glitchy
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> heh..... choose a new password :)
[20:44] <martijn81> i want to compile kde4 in sidux, is this a good guide for it? http://tuxtraining.com/2008/03/14/how-to-install-a-kde4-package-from-source/
[20:44] <genii> MoZarD: I'd recommend a new password, quickly
[20:45] <MoZarD> why?
[20:45] <MoZarD> :d
[20:45] <MoZarD> :D
[20:45] <genii> MoZarD: Because: [16:44:33:435] <MoZarD> msg ns register mozard k12345 k123456
[20:45] <Biggles> oh and how do i update to kde 3.9? I think im on 3.8...
[20:45] <vlt> MoZarD: Don't worry, we saw this only as "********" ...
[20:45] <vlt> ;)
[20:46] <jpatrick> MoZarD: /msg NickServ help set password
[20:46] <MoZarD> what is the type of this irc system
[20:46] <Biggles> ugh
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> Biggles: don't upgrade to 3.5.9..... only bugs there
[20:47] <jpatrick> MoZarD: best ask in #freenode
[20:47] <genii> MoZarD: ircd-dancer
[20:47] <jpatrick> genii: http://freenode.net/hyperion.shtml
[20:47] <genii> Ah, yes
[20:48] <genii> jpatrick: I looked at the wrong line in my Ubuntu IRC tab
[20:48] <benpicco_> vlt: http://bash.org/?244321
[20:48] <jpatrick> genii: :)
[20:51] <cannon> hey guys
[20:51] <cannon> how do I enable dual monitor?
[20:51] <vlt> benpicco_: Yes, I already knew that. Still *roflmao*
[20:53] <cannon> how do I enable dual monitor?
[20:53] <chad_> hai
[20:53] <chad_> me having issues
[20:54] <chad_> i was upgrade a fresh install and it had errors and said i needed to upgrade the distrubtuion
[20:54] <chad_> some gui popped up but wouldnt run due to adept already running
[20:54] <chad_> what was the guis name so i can launch it again?
[20:55] <benpicco_> chad_: better try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal ;)
[20:55] <chad_> k
[20:55] <benpicco_> chad_: it´s faster than opening the gui, clicking the buttons, etc...
[20:55] <benpicco_> and it needs far less ram
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't need to dist-upgrade yet, hardy is still in alpha, and a bad idea for most people at this point
[20:56] <benpicco_> dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to hardy
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> if you do choose to go to hardy, #ubuntu+1 is the support channel
[21:02] <shiv> I need to make a bootable iso of my system with the /home folder in it. Which one of these commands should I use? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[21:04] <Briareos_> can i configure applications to initally load in a specific workspace in gnome?
[21:06] <alirio> hey i need some help with kopete
[21:06] <Briareos_> which kind of? :)
[21:07] <alirio> i need send messages but when i m in invisible status
[21:08] <Briareos_> and it does not work?
[21:08] <alirio> or receive it messages when other people sent it me but i was not connect
[21:08] <uni4dfx> i don't think kopete can really do that
[21:08] <uni4dfx> try amsn
[21:09] <alirio> but somebody said me that there is a plugin
[21:09] <alirio> to do it
[21:09] <alirio> somebody knows?
[21:10] <uni4dfx> dunno about that, kopete doesn't have that many plugins
[21:10] <alirio_> it means that it doesnt possible
[21:11] <uni4dfx> why kopete anyway... try pidgin
[21:11] <alirio_> becouse i dont like gaim
[21:11] <ubuntu> hey
[21:11] <ubuntu> my os is goosed
[21:11] <uni4dfx> how exactly
[21:11] <ubuntu> it loads up with a terminal instead of the desktop
[21:12] <uni4dfx> are there any error messages
[21:12] <alirio_> i tried with emesene but it dont let sent files or share it
[21:12] <ubuntu> loads! lol
[21:12] <alirio_> send
[21:12] <ubuntu> but I don't remember em
[21:12] <ubuntu> are they stored somewhere?
[21:12] <uni4dfx> dmesg i think
[21:13] <uni4dfx> but maybe your Xserver is goosed and it won't boot... so be sure to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:13] <Stoffer> I just installed the kde theme manager, but I can't get into administrator mode to actually change the theme.  I hit the button and all I get is a big red box across the window.
[21:14] <Stoffer> any ideas?
[21:14] <uni4dfx> yea
[21:14] <uni4dfx> do it with kcontrol
[21:14] <ubuntu> !paste
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[21:15] <ubuntu> could you have a quick look for me pls: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59968/
[21:15] <uni4dfx> looks clean
[21:15] <ubuntu> what else could it be?
[21:15] <uni4dfx> it's probably the xserver
[21:16] <ubuntu> k
[21:16] <uni4dfx> look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:16] <Briareos_> can i configure applications to initally load in a specific workspace in gnome?
[21:16] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, is the theme manager there the same as the kdm theme manager?  It doesn't seem to have the same themes installed
[21:17] <uni4dfx> lemme check
[21:18] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59969/
[21:18] <uni4dfx> there's the login manager
[21:18] <ubuntu> so that file looks ok then?
[21:18] <Aw0L> anyone remember off hand where to install new kdm themes?
[21:19] <ubuntu> how do I access the login manager?
[21:19] <uni4dfx> not you :)
[21:19] <Briareos_> is there any pdf preview plugin for evolution?
[21:19] <uni4dfx> the xorg log looks fine too
[21:19] <uni4dfx> what happens if you press ctrl+alt+f7
[21:19] <ubuntu> so what do you suggest uni4dfx?
[21:20] <Cannon> hadn;t realised my name :P
[21:20] <Sonak> good eve, does anyone here know how to delete the grab boot manager easyly?
[21:23] <SQLDarkly> I have just installed Kubuntu....I edited my eth0 @ the CLI /etc/network/interfaces and changed from dhcp to static
[21:23] <SQLDarkly> no the device is not active even if i go back to dhcp
[21:24] <SQLDarkly> any thoughts on how to correct this
[21:24] <SQLDarkly> So far I still like the CLI better and am not used to this KDE environment. DO I have to use the kcontrol to configure network interfaces?
[21:25] <_stijn_> mhz
[21:25] <uni4dfx> try knetworkmanager
[21:25] <_stijn_> somebody knows how to build a kernel?
[21:26] <uni4dfx> btw. SQLDarkly... have you thought of..you know, setting /etc/network/interfaces back the way it was before?
[21:26] <SQLDarkly> uni4dfx.... I dont get anything when I run knetworkmanager.  Doesn't kcontrol do the same thing
[21:27] <uni4dfx> kcontrol is like a windows control panel... lots of apps at one place
[21:27] <SQLDarkly> heh I shouldnt have to. I have modified MANY linux boxes' eth cards. Unless KDE handles crap different it should work
[21:27] <uni4dfx> yea KDE might handle crap differently
[21:28] <SQLDarkly> well I cannot remember how the base install has it. heh
[21:28] <SQLDarkly> are you familiar with the interfaces file?
[21:28] <uni4dfx> i can tell u that
[21:28] <SQLDarkly> well that would be great
[21:28] <uni4dfx> the default is just 4 lines
[21:28] <uni4dfx> auto ln
[21:28] <uni4dfx> interface lo inet loopback
[21:28] <uni4dfx> address 127.0.0.1
[21:28] <uni4dfx> netmask 255.0.0.0
[21:29] <uni4dfx> oops i screwed up the 1st one:
[21:29] <uni4dfx> auto lo
[21:29] <SQLDarkly> figured
[21:29] <SQLDarkly> im not a complete novice which is why im irritated at the moment
[21:29] <SQLDarkly> KDE seems to be beating me :)
[21:29] <uni4dfx> KDE is a whole new world ;D
[21:30] <shiv> I unmounted my ntfs partition how do i remount it?
[21:30] <SQLDarkly> I see. Its not just a nice friendly CLI.
[21:30] <uni4dfx> sudo mount /path/to/mountpoint
[21:30] <SQLDarkly> I am trying to get my entire office off of windows and on KDE
[21:30] <SQLDarkly> will be 415 seats
[21:30] <uni4dfx> wow sweet
[21:30] <uni4dfx> using Kubuntu i assume?
[21:30] <SQLDarkly> yes
[21:31] <uni4dfx> my choice too
[21:31] <Aw0L> why is it that if I restart the network interface, kubuntu won't pull an IP from the dhcp server?  it only seems to work at boot
[21:31] <Y-Town> SQLDarkly: me too, but only 6 computers  :o)
[21:31] <SQLDarkly> I figure if my entire center is *nix the office will glow some sort of angelic gold
[21:31] <uni4dfx> Aw0L: sudo dhclient
[21:32] <Aw0L> uni4dfx, but it should automatically pull that down when you restart the interfaces right? /etc/init.d/networking...?
[21:32] <SQLDarkly> ok this is weird I went ahead and further modified the interfaces file.
[21:32] <SQLDarkly> I have full net access now but the eth0 reads as down in XWindows
[21:32] <SQLDarkly> last thing I need is a bunch of people bothering IT cause thier Icon is wrong lol.
[21:32] <uni4dfx> Aw0L: i think so, but i'm not sure
[21:33] <SQLDarkly> If I find a solution ill be sure to post it
[21:33] <uni4dfx> what icon
[21:33] <uni4dfx> knetworkmanager?
[21:33] <Aw0L> flaky
[21:33] <Aw0L> uni4dfx, thanks
[21:33] <SQLDarkly> the RJ45 connector at the lower right hand corner
[21:34] <SQLDarkly> when opened it reads the connection as down
[21:34] <SQLDarkly> yet ......its up :|
[21:34] <uni4dfx> you can just hide the icon :D
[21:34] <uni4dfx> rightclick on the system tray --> Configure System Tray
[21:35] <SQLDarkly> Yeah I know but isnt that a horrible hacked solution. Forgive me but I MUST be clean. Doesnt matter if its my car my body my code or my boxes. Everything must be clean and commented
[21:35] <uni4dfx> yea i know
[21:35] <uni4dfx> lemme google a bit
[21:35] <suskin> cafte
[21:36] <uni4dfx> oh and just to be clear... you did install all the updates and you're using gutsy, right?
[21:36] <SQLDarkly> No to the updates yes to gutsy
[21:36] <uni4dfx> install the updates
[21:36] <SQLDarkly> I updated only what was needed
[21:37] <uni4dfx> there are lots of kde fixes
[21:37] <SQLDarkly> hmmmm safe update ill run perhaps.
[21:37] <SQLDarkly> Full update didnt like to complete last time
[21:37] <suskin> poradte niekto ako nainstalovat zo suboru tar.bz
[21:38] <uni4dfx> some repo was probably unreachable... happens sometimes
[21:38] <uni4dfx> i usually try again later
[21:38] <SQLDarkly> on full upgrade?
[21:38] <uni4dfx> what do you mean by full upgrade
[21:38] <uni4dfx> i don't mean upgrading to hardy
[21:38] <SQLDarkly> One is a safe option
[21:38] <uni4dfx> just updating the packages
[21:38] <dvoid> my system seems stable now, seems like the evil nvidia driver was the cause if the random crashes, switch to the nvidia-glx-new package and had no crash since
[21:39] <uni4dfx> dvoid, good call... nvidia-glx-new solved lots of things for me too
[21:39] <ubuntu> could somebody help me pls
[21:39] <SQLDarkly> running the Adept upgrade now maybe it will fix it i will certainly let you know
[21:39] <dvoid> uni4dfx, :)
[21:39] <uni4dfx> yea do that
[21:39] <ubuntu> i have an error loading my os ... @No Resume Image@
[21:39] <uni4dfx> that's not an error
[21:40] <SQLDarkly> lol
[21:40] <uni4dfx> it means there's nothing to resume
[21:40] <uni4dfx> it's there for hybernation i think
[21:40] <uni4dfx> or when you use suspend or sth
[21:40] <uni4dfx> it loads the entire system state into an image
[21:40] <uni4dfx> and loads it the next time you boot
[21:40] <SQLDarkly> opps wrong room :) not laughing at you ubuntu i promise
[21:40] <hellhound> what is the command to run memtest86?
[21:41] <uni4dfx> no command... reboot and select memtest in grub
[21:41] <Y-Town> hellhound: its on the cd
[21:41] <uni4dfx> or that
[21:41] <ubuntu> so how do I fix it uni4dfx?
[21:41] <uni4dfx> there's nothing to fix
[21:41] <uni4dfx> just ignore it
[21:42] <ubuntu> but it loads to terminal
[21:42] <hellhound> Y-Town: how would i run it from the cd?
[21:42] <ubuntu> how do I get the gui to load up?
[21:42] <uni4dfx> what happens
[21:42] <uni4dfx> if you type sudo gdm
[21:42] <Cannon> let me chekc
[21:42] <Y-Town> hellhound: put the cd in drive and reboot.... you will see it in the choices
[21:42] <Cannon> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo gdm
[21:42] <Cannon> sudo: gdm: command not found
[21:43] <hellhound> Y-Town: ah ok thank you
[21:43] <Cannon> i'll try that memory test thing
[21:43] <uni4dfx> umm
[21:43] <Cannon> how long should it take uni4dfx?
[21:43] <uni4dfx> cannon
[21:43] <Cannon> yes?
[21:43] <uni4dfx> it means you didn't install the correct system
[21:44] <uni4dfx> did you install the server edition?
[21:44] <Cannon> gutsy gibbon
[21:44] <uni4dfx> probably the server edition yeah
[21:44] <uni4dfx> it doesn't have a GUI
[21:44] <Cannon> nooooooooo
[21:44] <Cannon> lol
[21:44] <Cannon> i have been using it for a few days now
[21:44] <Cannon> i rebooted after trying to configer dual monitor support
[21:44] <Cannon> nividia-settings
[21:45] <uni4dfx> type startx then
[21:45] <Cannon> k
[21:45] <uni4dfx> (without then)
[21:45] <Cannon> lol ;)
[21:45] <uni4dfx> had to be sure :P
[21:45] <Cannon> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.9937
[21:45] <Cannon> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[21:45] <uni4dfx> now we're getting somewhere
[21:46] <Cannon> oh good :)
[21:46] <uni4dfx> try doing
[21:47] <uni4dfx> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[21:47] <Cannon> what user ... console only?
[21:47] <uni4dfx> select anybody
[21:48] <Cannon> k
[21:48] <Cannon> nice value for x serveR?
[21:48] <uni4dfx> try default
[21:48] <Cannon> done
[21:48] <Cannon> now a reboot?
[21:48] <uni4dfx> well try startx now
[21:49] <uni4dfx> or reboot
[21:49] <Cannon> k
[21:49] <Cannon> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.10075
[21:49] <Cannon> Fatal server error:
[21:49] <Cannon> Server is already active for display 0
[21:49] <Cannon>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[21:49] <Cannon>         and start again.
[21:49] <Cannon> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[21:49] <uni4dfx> just reboot
[21:49] <Cannon> k
[21:49] <uni4dfx> brb
[21:49] <Cannon> me too :)
[21:49] <Y-Town> Is there any good reason to have a windows partition if all my computers run linux and use vm ware for any needed windows apps?
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> Y-Town: not unless you need games,nope
[21:51] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: I dont think so... When I redo my entire network this Friday I was just wondering if it would be needed at all
[21:56] <Makuseru> where is xorg located
[21:57] <uni4dfx> what part of it
[21:57] <Makuseru> xorg.config
[21:58] <Makuseru> its been so long since ive had to do anything with it i forgot what folder its in
[21:58] <uni4dfx> ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:58] <ubuntu> back
[21:58] <ubuntu> still no luck
[21:58] <Makuseru> thanks
[21:58] <uni4dfx> startx still says the same thing?
[21:59] <Cannon> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/ubuntu/.serverauth.10009
[21:59] <Cannon> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[21:59] <Cannon> xinit:  Server error.
[21:59] <Cannon> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[21:59] <Cannon> it seams so
[21:59] <uni4dfx> what exactly did you do?
[21:59] <Cannon> just a reboot
[21:59] <Cannon> before it went
[21:59] <uni4dfx> no i mean to get this problem
[21:59] <Cannon> i was trying to configure nvidia-settings
[22:00] <uni4dfx> how
[22:00] <Cannon> to enable dual screen support
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[22:00] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:00] <slow-motion> hi
[22:00] <uni4dfx> can you show me your xorg.conf
[22:01] <Cannon> sure
[22:01] <Cannon> how do I get to it?
[22:01] <Cannon> !paste
[22:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:02] <uni4dfx> it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:02] <alex-weej> what is the default web browser in kubuntu?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> konqueror
[22:03] <Cannon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59974/
[22:03] <alex-weej> default window manager?
[22:04] <uni4dfx> K is for KDE ... usually :P
[22:04] <Cannon> did ya get it uni4dfx?
[22:04] <uni4dfx> Yea
[22:04] <uni4dfx> looks very clean
[22:04] <Cannon> so what can I do?
[22:04] <Cannon> do I need to re-install everything?
[22:05] <uni4dfx> not yet
[22:05] <uni4dfx> so typing sudo gdm doesn't do anything
[22:05] <uni4dfx> ?
[22:05] <uni4dfx> oh wait
[22:05] <uni4dfx> you're using kubuntu?
[22:05] <uni4dfx> XD
[22:06] <Cannon> sudo: gdm: command not found
[22:06] <Cannon> yep
[22:06] <uni4dfx> got me confused cuz your name was ubuntu
[22:06] <Cannon> lol
[22:06] <uni4dfx> then sudo kdm
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> uhh, you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"?
[22:06] <Cannon> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo kdm
[22:06] <Cannon> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[22:06] <Cannon> i get nothing
[22:06] <uni4dfx> ctrl+alt+f7
[22:06] <uni4dfx> ?
[22:06] <dirk_> hallo
[22:07] <Cannon> nothing
[22:07] <dirk_> ?
[22:07] <uni4dfx> odd
[22:07] <uni4dfx> you can try what nosrednaekim said, but i'm not sure it will be any different
[22:10] <uni4dfx> still here?
[22:12] <ritalin> y0, kubuntu rocks
[22:12] <ritalin> but I needs teh flash plugin, whats it called the adobe one?
[22:12] <Jucato> uni4dfx: actually you can't run kdm with plain "sudo kdm" only
[22:12] <uni4dfx> yea you can
[22:12] <uni4dfx> i do it all the time
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> ritalin: flashplugin-nonfree
[22:13] <uni4dfx> usually when it's not running tho
[22:13] <venik> why do some programs simply DISAPPEAR from my menus, and apparently, from my system?  An example is Basket-- it simply evaporates!
[22:13] <cannon> still not booting
[22:13] <venik> I have to reinstall it frequencly
[22:13] <uni4dfx> i can't believe your xorg log is clean
[22:14] <ritalin> danke
[22:14] <pat5star> anyone tell me if there is a bind # on this server, or where I could ask some basic questions about running a local dns server in a small office home network?
[22:14] <cannon> any other ideas uni4dfx?
[22:15] <uni4dfx> have you tried the kdm restart command
[22:15] <cannon> yep
[22:15] <uni4dfx> nothing?
[22:15] <uni4dfx> just nothing or errors?
[22:15] <cannon> got a terminal and didn't know how to get out of it
[22:15] <cannon> so I reset
[22:16] <uni4dfx> ctrl+c usually does the trick
[22:16] <venik> the same is for my USB external drive... it disappeared from my STORAGE folder
[22:16] <cannon> whats the command ... I'll try again
[22:16] <uni4dfx> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:16] <cannon> how long should it take uni4dfx?
[22:16] <uni4dfx> should be instant
[22:16] <Stoffer> for some reason kdm has no effect on my system.  I did manage to get into it by typing 'sudo kcontrol'.  Would sudoing it make changes to a different user or something, not the one i'm currently in?   any ideas?
[22:18] <uni4dfx> Stoffer... and why did you have to run kcontrol with sudo?
[22:18] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, because otherwise I can't get "administrator mode" working with kdm
[22:18] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, if I run it with sudo kdm lets me change themes
[22:18] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, but it doesn't work
[22:19] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, basically i'm trying to get my system looking good w/out having to go back to compiz.  kdm seems like my best shot
[22:19] <Stoffer> nothing else seems to work well
[22:19] <Stoffer> well...not like  kdm's working at all...
[22:19] <uni4dfx> you didn't by any chance install kdm from ubuntu?
[22:19] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, I think I just installed it through the synaptic package manager
[22:20] <uni4dfx> yeah
[22:20] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, since adept doens't do much
[22:20] <uni4dfx> but, you already had kdm if you installed kubuntu
[22:20] <Stoffer> uni4dfx,  I didn't see it until I "installed" it today though
[22:20] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, I didn't have the option in my system appearance settings
[22:21] <uni4dfx> you mean kdm theme manager
[22:21] <uni4dfx> not kdm
[22:21] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, oh...didn't realize there was a difference
[22:21] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, I don't know what I installed then
[22:22] <intelikey> cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:22] <uni4dfx> so if you go to kcontrol
[22:22] <Stoffer> but I guess to be more specific, the kdm theme manager isn't doing anything
[22:22] <uni4dfx> hmm
[22:22] <intelikey> if you want to know what you did install that is
[22:22] <uni4dfx> did you update everything
[22:22] <uni4dfx> cuz i remember there was a bug
[22:23] <uni4dfx> that made kdm theme manager's changes uneffective
[22:23] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, well, I have the latest versions according to synaptic
[22:23] <cannon> still nothing
[22:23] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, and they're ubuntu versions
[22:23] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, both kdm and kdm theme manager
[22:24] <uni4dfx> you have kubuntu or ubuntu?
[22:24] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, kubuntu
[22:24] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, well, I installed ubuntu then switched to kde. so I dunno
[22:24] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, I used to run gnome
[22:24] <uni4dfx> so you originally had ubuntu
[22:24] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, yes
[22:25] <uni4dfx> i did that last year
[22:25] <uni4dfx> and ran into so many problems
[22:25] <uni4dfx> i just reinstalled everything with kubuntu
[22:25] <shiv> I unmounted the sda1(ntfs) from the desktop for making remastersys. How do I remount it back on the desktop and make it mount everytime I boot?
[22:25] <Stoffer> uni4dfx,  you mean format and start from scratch?
[22:25] <cannon> anything else I can do before I re-install uni4dfx?
[22:25] <pierre_> hello guys. when reducing the screen resolution (system settings), kubuntu is not affecting the changes - the same resolution is kept !! any idea ?
[22:26] <uni4dfx> i dunno cannon, i think i'm out of ideas
[22:26] <cannon> k
[22:26] <uni4dfx> see if anyone else has some, or try googling
[22:26] <Dr_willis> pierre_,  totally restart the X server, with alt-ctrl-baclspace
[22:26] <uni4dfx> Stoffer yes i mean from scratch
[22:26] <uni4dfx> but it won't be that bad
[22:26] <uni4dfx> cuz you'll have KDE out of the box
[22:26] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, lame.... well at least I have all my stuff on a seperate partition
[22:27] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, is there an easy way to do it?  Is there a kubuntu livecd that'll do most of the work for me?
[22:27] <uni4dfx> of course
[22:27] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, maybe this is also why kde4 basically won't run at all on my system
[22:27] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, it's all messed up
[22:28] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, which is why i'm still with 3
[22:28] <uni4dfx> if you want KDE, go for kubuntu
[22:28] <uni4dfx> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[22:28] <uni4dfx> but i suggest you wait til 8.10 is released
[22:28] <uni4dfx> sorry, i mean 8.04
[22:28] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, when's that?
[22:28] <uni4dfx> april
[22:28] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, ok, thanks for the tip
[22:29]  * intelikey still likes the package selection of "kde" rather than "kubuntu-desktop"
[22:31] <shiv> I unmounted the sda1(ntfs) from the desktop for making remastersys. How do I remount it back on the desktop and make it mount everytime I boot?
[22:31] <intelikey> !ntfs
[22:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[22:33] <azzco> Has anyone gotten kopete ktts 1.3 to work under ubuntu? I downloaded the sources, compiled and installed but I can't find it in kopete plugins
[22:39] <matt1728> does any one use dvdshrink in wine? im having problems with it
[22:40] <azzco> matt1728: #winehq ?
[22:40] <azzco> matt1728: without the ? on the end ;)
[22:41] <matt1728> thanks
[22:41] <matt1728> is there a dvdshrink for windows
[22:41] <intelikey> ?
[22:41] <matt1728> linuxa*
[22:41] <matt1728> dvd shrink for linux
[22:42] <uni4dfx> DVD Shrink - DVD Ripping and Backup
[22:42] <uni4dfx> Latest OFFICIAL Version - 3.2.0.15
[22:42] <uni4dfx> Operating System Support - Windows 9x/2000/XP
[22:42] <intelikey> ubotu find dvd
[22:42] <ubotu> Found: dvd+rw-tools, radvd, dvd95, dvdauthor, dvdbackup (and 20 others)
[22:42] <matt1728> but is there a dvdshrinking software for linux?
[22:43] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> there is
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> k9copy
[22:44] <IppatsuMan> matt1728: you could try k9copy or dvd::rip
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> ubotu info k9copy
[22:44] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i recommend k9 because it's far less trouble than dvd::rip (i personally use both)
[22:45] <matt1728> does shrink?
[22:45] <matt1728> do they shrink?
[22:45] <Daisuke_Ido> k9copy will do the 9 to 5 conversion yes
[22:45] <matt1728> ahh
[22:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's actually easier than dvdshrink, i think
[22:46] <Stoffer> uni4dfx, hey, would there be any drawbacks in installing kubutnu now and then just upgrading when the new version comes out?
[22:46] <RogueJediX> Why won't my QT apps like Speedcrunch adapt to my KDE theme? They're all blocky and ugly.
[22:47] <matt1728> k ill check it out
[22:47] <uni4dfx> Stoffer, it may go wrong yes
[22:47] <Stoffer> oh
[22:47] <Stoffer> ok
[22:47] <Daisuke_Ido> walking across the street may go wrong
[22:47] <Stoffer> i guess i'll have to wait then
[22:47] <uni4dfx> yea good point
[22:47] <uni4dfx> but upgrading *ubuntu has gone wrong every time for me
[22:48] <uni4dfx> i usually cross the street alive
[22:48] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no reason not to install, the upgrade process has improved with every release so far, which means a far less chance of problems now than there were upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04
[22:48] <intelikey> anyone that uses *buntu and isn't willing to {upgrade...oops...reloade} should use the LTS
[22:49] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey, horrible example of irony: the release they're upgrading to IS the lts
[22:49] <intelikey> i didn't say upgrade to LTS    i said use    "implies install it"
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hence why i said horrible example
[22:50]  * intelikey fails to see the irony     so doesn't see why it's an example of irony...
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> come to think of it, neither do i :\
[22:52] <intelikey> perhaps you failed to propperly translate the "{upgrade...oops...reloade}"     that means to do that every -6 months  you know.
[22:53] <intelikey> and if one is not willing to do that every six months   they should use the   LTS    or debian.
[22:54] <intelikey> that does not imply that you will have to reload   just that you should be willing to
[22:55]  * intelikey also points out that his rant was "nube based"  not "13eti57 based"
[22:56] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey, i think that's what i missed
[22:56] <Daisuke_Ido> my apologies
[22:56] <intelikey> no worries.
[23:20] <ahmos> hi,how i can make a network between two computers
[23:21] <Agrajag`> ahmos: do they have network cards?
[23:21] <ahmos> yes lan cards
[23:21] <Agrajag`> do you have a switch or a hub?
[23:22] <ahmos> let's say no
[23:22] <Agrajag`> crossover cable?
[23:22] <ahmos> yes
[23:22] <Agrajag`> plugged between the two?
[23:22] <ahmos> aha :)
[23:23] <Agrajag`> both computers using kubuntu?
[23:23] <ahmos> let's say kubuntu and windows
[23:23] <Agrajag`> k
[23:23] <Agrajag`> so basically you just want to get IPs for them?
[23:24] <ahmos> i guess!! :D
[23:24] <ahmos> and to share folders between them
[23:26] <Agrajag`> do you have samba installed?
[23:26] <ahmos> when i click network folders icon i can see samba shares
[23:28] <ahmos> only samba-common
[23:29] <ahmos> i'm not registered
[23:57] <asobi> what's a good transcoding program? i want to change m4a to mp3
[23:58] <matt1728> any good movies out there that i should download?
[23:59] <matt1728> #waffles