[00:00] don't know, don't know the package name, just noticed it while installing 8.04 , and tought waaw this is great, exactly what a lot of people might need. [00:00] and now it's gone :p [00:00] jimmygoon: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none? [00:00] savvas: thanks let me try the reboot [00:00] TimothyP: i had it yesterday [00:00] It's a good way to manage services on other hosts :) or at least to get to them [00:00] TimothyP: package name? Why? [00:01] i'll check again tho [00:01] TimothyP: not using a GUI? [00:01] i'll search it in add/remove [00:01] ethana2 yes, but it's gone from the UI, and I don't know what it was called (except for the menu list) [00:01] I'll have a look as well [00:01] ohhhh [00:02] it's not that it's a hard app to write yourself, but still, would be nice if it was included [00:02] TimothyP: so you're saying in Places -> network, you don't see ssh servers? [00:02] it's there [00:02] Avahi Zeroconf browser? [00:02] Avahi Zeroconf Browser [00:02] Service discover user interface for avahi [00:02] omg, they fixed places > network!!! [00:02] just noticed it :P [00:02] savvas: they did that a while ago [00:02] oh, heh [00:03] I installed hardy to get my dvb working, but still not working, oh well [00:03] gahh, doesn't do fonts:/// [00:04] hmm ethana2 that's not the tool I meant [00:04] doh :( [00:04] oh [00:04] the tool I had upon default install was really good, under the category Internet [00:04] and then you got a list of SSH services, and you could connect to them right away [00:05] the only problem was that you could not specify your own credentials [00:05] anyway I'm off to bed, I'll check it out tommorow, thank you for your time [00:05] TimothyP: try vinagre [00:07] maccam94, right, it looses affect after rebooting [00:09] DanaG: vinagre is VNC afaik [00:09] jimmygoon: weird [00:09] savvas: no luck back at a command promt [00:09] its been awhile since updates for hardy [00:10] how do I go back to vesa or have ubuntu redetect the whole thing? [00:10] alex_mayorga, dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg [00:10] alex_mayorga, sudo of course [00:10] alex_mayorga: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [00:10] dpkg, not dpk :P [00:11] wtf? my taskbar is showing stuff from all 4 sides of my cube. [00:11] I have it set to show only 1 side. [00:11] it never asked me what video driver to use :( [00:11] alex_mayorga: which nvidia card do you have? [00:12] geforce 440 go [00:12] maccam94: i tried to help him didn't work installing nvidia-glx [00:12] alex_mayorga: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:13] he needs the legacy driver [00:13] nono [00:13] I wish I didn't have to have userful installed [00:13] scroll down until you find Driver "nvidia" or Driver "vesa" [00:13] uh.. [00:13] wth where is nautilus soring trash now???? [00:13] savvas: no [00:13] maccam94: no he doesn't [00:13] I don't even know where it /keeps/ my xorg configuration file [00:13] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/146706 [00:13] Launchpad bug 146706 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "[Hardy alpha 6] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go " [High,Triaged] [00:13] maccam94: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html [00:13] GeForce4 440 Go 0x0174 [00:14] yup [00:14] legacy [00:14] .. [00:14] Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases. The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs: [00:14] 1.0-96xx driver ? [00:14] $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx [00:14] nvidia-glx: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1:96.43.05+2.6.24.11-12.31 [00:15] $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-legacy [00:15] nvidia-glx-legacy: Installed: (none) Candidate: 71.86.04+2.6.24.11-12.31 [00:15] ok? :P [00:15] bah, ubuntu has a different naming scheme [00:15] * maccam94 forgot [00:15] the legacy is the 1.0-71xx driver [00:16] alex_mayorga: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:16] savvas: the xserver.conf doesn-t even have a Driver line, what gives? [00:16] alex_mayorga: ok give me a sec [00:16] maccam94 no I'm saying they removed 2 tools from the menu Applications/Internet, called Avahi SSH Server Browser and Avahi VNC Server Brower, two great tools .... nowhere to be found after the update :) anyway really got to go now [00:16] ah [00:16] gotcha [00:16] alex_mayorga: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/945227 -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:16] seriously. :( Where did ~/.trash go? [00:17] alex_mayorga: be SURE you copy the number well [00:17] alex_mayorga: no, /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:17] not xserver.conf [00:17] we confused the poort guy [00:17] :p [00:17] *poor [00:18] hey, can anyone help me with getting compiz to work with the radeon driver. Ubuntu blacklists it for some reason but I know it works [00:18] alex_mayorga: also, use capital "o" for -O, i mean copy it EXACTLY as you see it :) [00:20] savvas, let me give that a try [00:21] alex_mayorga: after it's done, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [00:21] Well I found the biggest hardy bug yet... I can't customize my screensaver options! [00:21] * jimmygoon ducks [00:21] hope that paste wouldn-t have an ugly payload, kidding [00:22] alex_mayorga: just be sure you typed it well [00:22] every dot is important :p [00:23] well nap time, i'm out [00:23] later guys [00:23] and girls [00:23] :) [00:23] alex_mayorga: once you do that let me know how you turn out [00:28] maccam94: well I guess I'm back where I started, a rainbow of flashing colors on my screen [00:28] oooh pretty [00:29] makes me a bit dizzy after a while, but is pretty [00:29] is the power of ubuntu unleashed I guess :) [00:29] alex_mayorga: ok, get back to the command line, and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" [00:30] alex_mayorga: then run "sudo dexconf" [00:30] done [00:31] savvas: thanks anyway [00:31] now "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" [00:32] alex_mayorga: once it's open, hit ctrl + w and search for nvidia [00:32] not found [00:33] alex_mayorga: ctrl + w [00:33] Section "Device" [00:33] exactly that, including quotes [00:34] and look about two lines down, to the driver line [00:34] maccam94: there's the oddity, theres no Driver line [00:35] I don't have a driver line either... [00:35] ok [00:35] only Identifier "Configured Video Device" [00:35] that's it [00:35] alex_mayorga: for kicks, close the xorg.conf [00:35] alex_mayorga: sudo rmmod nvidia [00:35] let me revert to a week old copy and see if I get video back [00:35] sudo modprobe nvidia [00:35] alex_mayorga: h/o [00:35] er hold on [00:36] OK [00:36] alex_mayorga: xorg.7.3 is special [00:36] I'll do as you tell me [00:36] it can supposedly run purely on autodetection [00:36] so [00:36] close the xorg.conf [00:36] sudo rmmod nvidia [00:36] ohhhhhhh [00:36] wait [00:36] i got it [00:36] ?? [00:36] i think i do anyway [00:37] the nvidia driver won't modprobe if it's not in xorg.conf [00:37] OK, first thing first, should I reinstall legacy here? [00:37] no [00:37] you've got nvidia-glx installed already, correct? [00:38] not nvidia-glx-legacy [00:38] wait the pizza guy is here [00:39] ok [00:39] alex_mayorga: for when you get back [00:39] sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:39] sudo nvidia-xconfig [00:40] then try restarting gdm [00:40] i g2g now too [00:40] sorry [00:41] Can No one Help me get internet Working in Ubuntu? Ive resorted to reinstalling windows and using it and ive grown to HATE Windows...so can someone help Card is Atheros AR5006EG [00:41] Can No one Help me get internet Working in Ubuntu? Ive resorted to reinstalling windows and using it and ive grown to HATE Windows...so can someone help Card is Atheros AR5006EG [00:41] hi [00:42] Hi [00:43] Black_Magic: From one BM to another; have you tried the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834 ? [00:44] :P [00:44] Well it says i am connected [00:44] But i cannot Browser or Ping any IP [00:44] Operation not Permitted even if i do with root privs [00:45] Anybody know anything more about wired network refusing to connect? I tried the "alias net-pf-10 off" -fix that was suggested here, but that didn't work... [00:47] Balaams_Miracle: I dont use WPA [00:47] It's at times like this that i would wish i knew anything about wireless. But alas, i've no experience with it. [00:47] Black_Magic: ... erm. you're not using that windows driver wrapper are you? [00:47] Black_Magic: What kind of security do you use then? [00:48] No im not [00:48] WEP [00:48] Madwifi [00:49] it says its connected but i cannot browse ping any ip or use any Internet Dependant Application [00:49] Black_Magic: you on a network with mac filtering perhaps? [00:49] No [00:49] if i switch to Windows [00:49] Or Backtrack [00:49] i can connect to the same exact AP [00:49] in the same exact spot [00:50] and acctually browse ping and use interner programs [00:50] or even a Ubuntu Live CD [00:51] ... ubuntu live CD works?? [00:52] Yea.. [00:52] By Default i just need to select an AP [00:52] this has only been happning for 2months [00:52] sudo iwconfig essid "YOUR_WIRELESS_NETWORK_NAME" [00:52] it originally worked till some weird thing [00:52] i tried that [00:52] same thing either that or it wont even connect [00:52] i have my dmesg right here [00:53] Black_Magic: Are you on 32 or 64bit architecture? [00:53] 32 [00:54] Good, have you seen this topic yet? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723435 [00:54] mines Atheros 5006EG [00:55] Black_Magic: And in what way are they different? Apart from that one digit of course. [00:55] 5007EG is a newer card [00:56] and lesser supported [00:56] Did you read the madwifi bit in that topic? [00:57] Yea [00:57] i dont have that card and my card was working earlier in my Ubuntu Installs life [00:57] if you visit madwifi sites [00:57] Atheros AR5006EG is in the supported list [00:58] Here is my Dmesg its verry interneting at the bottom.. [00:58] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59880/ [00:58] Thats when im supposably Connected to an AP [00:59] And windows reconizes it as 5006EG too [01:00] * DanaG wonders why ATHeros is called MADwifi. [01:00] It's not MADtheros. [01:00] And it's not ATHwifi. [01:00] Either way, it makes no sense. [01:00] "ath0: no IPv6 routers present" Maybe disable ipv6 and try again? [01:00] the module isn't called mad-anything, either; it's ath_hal. [01:01] nice i remeber that.. [01:01] i did disable it with [01:01] about:config [01:01] and then found the inet.ip6 thing [01:01] and disabled [01:02] Okay, so you've disableds it in FF, but not system-wide. [01:02] :/... [01:03] Commands so i can write them down in a notepad then reboot to Ubuntu [01:04] Here's the topic on how to disable ipv6 system-wide (oh, the forum is such a great, non-volatile resource of info!) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798 [01:04] i know that much ive been working on this for a couple months.. [01:04] here was what i meant for you to see [01:05] [ 601.271691] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready [01:05] #[ 611.457966] ath0: no IPv6 routers present [01:05] [ 715.618341] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready [01:05] "ath0: no IPv6 routers present" Maybe disable ipv6 and try again? [01:05] the # is not to look at like your a terminal :P [01:06] i know that part [01:06] i meant the ath0 link not ready [01:06] ath0 link becomes ready [01:06] i was wondering if that eant card was halfway on or disabled..? [01:07] Black_Magic: You wanted commands to write down so that you can disable ipv6 system-wide. I gave you the topic where you can find those commands. [01:07] in gnome in 8.04, where do you set the default player to open when an ipod is connected? It seems to have changed places since 7.10 [01:07] my wifi doesn't work anymore since the -12 distro upgrade. anybody have ideas? [01:07] i have a wpa network. it gets associated, but i don't get an ip. i suspect wpa-supplicant and the new wireless settings editor [01:08] i see that i have it [01:08] MP3 playback is not going well, how to solve it? =P [01:08] Black_Magic: Also, what happens in those dmesg lines is analogue to "hey, someone's knocking at my door", "I don't recognize the guy, so i won't open the door". [01:09] oh i see [01:09] Like when i watch my router connecting packets in wireshark i see [01:09] Who is Tell [01:10] It's choppy [01:10] I've never used Wireshark, but i guess that might be similar [01:11] Its a Local Packet Sniffer [01:11] Ever heard of Ethereal? [01:11] its interesting to watch the packets that appear when trying to connect [01:11] Wireshark is Ethereal. [01:11] Lunks: I get the same thing with portaudio enabled. [01:11] Black_Magic: I know what WS is, i've just never used it [01:11] Oh i also noticed when i cannot connect the Wicd or Network-Manager for wicd it doesnt have the lights on the computers comming on and off [01:11] :-) [01:12] if they do i can browse and things [01:12] Balaams_Miracle: what's portaudio? =P [01:12] with network manager [01:12] Let me extend my problem [01:12] it just stays still... [01:12] It's only when I do something on the computer. [01:12] Like, maximize firefox. [01:12] Lunks: ... or pulseaudio... i keep forgetting (the names are so similar) [01:13] Balaams_Miracle: how to disable it? =P [01:15] whats pulse audio.. [01:16] Lunks: In System => Preferences => Sound (i'm using the Dutch language pack, so it could be sound preferences, or audio preferences, something like that). Anyway, there you should be able to change your sound server. [01:17] Black_Magic: Pulseaudio is the default sound server in Hardy Heron [01:17] ok [01:17] pulse [01:17] I chose ALSA instead [01:17] why? [01:17] oh [01:17] same way [01:17] (and you're using alsa still) [01:17] i didnt notice because after Upgrading i still had sound.. [01:17] just had to change PCM to Digital [01:18] what is PCM Anyways? [01:18] Pulse Code Modulation [01:18] Got choppy MP3 when maximizing firefox, for example. [01:19] not running a weird kernel or messed with the nice levels of the pulseaudio processes did you? [01:19] if not, report a bug [01:19] and PCM Does... [01:19] Sorry guys, got to go. I mean now. Sorry for cutting this short, but i am urgently needed elsewhere. [01:19] PCM is Wav audio, basically. [01:19] Raw and uncompressed. [01:19] Black_Magic, iirc, it's the dac on the card [01:20] got choppy, still [01:20] :/ [01:20] Your sound card handles PCM audio. [01:20] i get no sound when PCM is Selected [01:20] I have a Digital card so i only get sound when Digital is Selected [01:20] Your MP3's need to be decoded to PCM before they can be played. [01:21] also it seems like i have an OSS and Alsa Card [01:21] Hmm? [01:21] What card is it? [01:21] alsa and oss are the kernel drivers; pulse/esd is what lets you play more than one sound at a time [01:22] Actually, you can already do that with dmix. [01:22] DanaG: Yup, another sound server :) [01:22] PulseAudio really shines at stuff with networked audio devices, and multiple audio devices. [01:22] You can do all sorts of nifty stuff with it. [01:22] and handling apps that don't handle their own sound very well [01:23] However, the "restore streams to card on hotplug (in, not out)" feature doesn't work for my Audigy2. [01:23] (i.e., you can set the volume independantly for each app that uses it) [01:24] Err... [01:25] *scratches head* [01:25] wish linux commands worked on windows :/ [01:25] ... except for pidgin, because the streams disappear too quick.y [01:25] quickly. [01:25] :p [01:25] Hmm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715530&page=7 [01:25] I posted a few of my themes there. [01:28] lol i guess Loging in as Root Doesnt work in Hardy :/ [01:28] well it does but all it shows is a background.. [01:29] * Black_Magic Says sorry for all the questions and chattings but everysince Ubuntu ive been [01:29] * Black_Magic Hooked on Linux [01:40] How is audacity going to be dealt with in Hardy with pulseaudio enabled by default? === jordan_ is now known as Jordan_U [01:45] okay guys, something really weird happened and this is the second time this has happened, all the borders to my windows have suddenly disappeared and I cannot move, minimize any windows, any clue on what's going on here? [01:45] well, your window manager crashed [01:45] ah [01:46] ctrl+alt+backspace is the only way to fix that? [01:46] this seems to be happening 1-2 times a week :/ [01:46] no, you can start metacity using alt+f2 [01:46] not working [01:47] are you using normal/advanced effects? [01:47] advanced [01:47] choose none [01:47] (disable compiz) [01:47] where do I do this? [01:47] hey crimsun... can you help me fix my wifi? you seemed to have a fix the other day [01:48] niocholas_jones, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Desktop Effects [01:48] danage: for which WiFi chipset? [01:48] atheros 5212 [01:48] danage: no. [01:48] it is broken since the -12 parial upgrade [01:48] hrm [01:48] do you know what is causing the problem? [01:49] seemed like that worked crimsun [01:49] danage: I only know about ssb+b43, which I'm currently debugging. [01:49] why did this work? [01:49] danage, 'Broken' in what way, have you tried anything other than network-manager? [01:49] seems like a crazy bug [01:49] Jordan_U: kinda. i know it's associated. iwconfig tells me [01:49] it doesnt get ip address [01:49] dhclient works on eth0 though [01:49] niocholas_jones, Because compiz is still somewhat buggy and without desktop effects enabled you aren't using compiz [01:49] SO i am suspecting wpa_supplicant something [01:50] Jordan_U, interesting [01:50] i use wpa2-psk networ [01:50] so, what is compiz exactly? [01:50] niocholas_jones: gives 3d effects to your x.org [01:51] danage: why would wpa-supplicant be at fault? dhclient doesn't know about WPA2 at all. You have to use iwpriv or wpa-supplicant for that. [01:51] niocholas_jones, It's like Vista's aero on steriods :) [01:51] interesting [01:51] yea [01:51] hrm [01:51] i know, but i can a) associate and b) dhcp works fine on eth0... thus it should be somewhere inbetween, and that would be encryption, correct? [01:52] niocholas_jones, This is a video of an older version of Compiz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w [01:52] so...how could I map ctrl+alt+11 to switch to none and control+alt+12 to go to Advanced effects [01:52] danage: association would require manual iwpriv or use of wpa-supplicant. [01:52] because I know this will happen again, and I like my advanced effects :) [01:52] but that quick fix won't bother me once a week [01:53] really? i thought wpa always associates with ap, just doesnt transmit if key is incorrect [01:54] is there a command I could run in order to switch everything to "none effect mode" ? [01:54] if I could do that, then I could mape ctl+alt+f11 to the script [01:54] niocholas_jones, metacity --replace [01:54] cool [01:54] and how would I bring it back to advanced ? [01:54] crimsun: look ath this http://www.pastebin.ca/945607 [01:54] niocholas_jones, I am guessing "compiz --replace" would do it [01:55] interesting [01:55] is that only for wep? [01:55] let's give it a shot! :) [01:55] crimsun: the same when i do wpakeys [01:56] ---> no keys!!! [01:56] well [01:56] Jordan_U, that somewhat worked :P [01:56] it can't find my theme when I do compiz --replace [01:56] but it goes back into advanced mode [01:56] niocholas_jones, Does it give an error? [01:56] Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Outcrop": Failed to find a valid file for theme Outcrop [01:56] /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format [01:57] danage: no, it's not only for WEP [01:57] danage: e.g., my keys appear correctly [01:58] Jordan_U, any clue ? [01:59] niocholas_jones, No, I don't use compiz ( ATI card :( ) [01:59] it seems like a bug in network manager [01:59] it doesnt store keys [01:59] yup, it asks me for key now every time [01:59] when i reconnect through network manager [01:59] in the network manager editor, it shows no saved keys [02:00] crazy [02:00] i deleted the key in keyring now [02:00] and it stays gone [02:00] hello? [02:00] argh [02:00] network manager disconnected me [02:00] danage, We could see what you were saying :) [02:00] well, here is the deal: network manager doesnt store keys [02:00] ah [02:01] danage, I was just about to respond when you quit :) [02:02] Man, my laptop's sound sucks. I get a small, quiet hiss on every keypress :( [02:02] s/sound/shielding/ [02:04] Right. Sound hardware design, then. :P [02:06] hrm [02:06] I am searching around on forums and I still can't seem to find the answer [02:08]