| greg-g | IDEA: add an extra button/link on bug reports that members of the Bug Control team can see that does the search that LP does when submitting a new report, the list of similar bugs. (only for Bug Control to curb the resources requirement) | 02:17 |
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| derelicked | moo | 02:44 |
| techno_freak | :) | 03:22 |
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| iwkse | hi all, I was searching for a duplicate of a bug i'm experiencing but i could not find. In few words, livecd can't boot and give the (initramfs) prompt when is used a usb-cdrom device. The problem seems to be due to initramfs which mount too fastly the new root before the cdrom is probed. It's a known bug? | 09:25 |
| hggdh | anyone noticed the number of g_slice_alloc SIGSEGV we have been having? | 09:28 |
| techno_freak | iwkse, feel free to report the bug, if you do not find a duplicate :) | 09:30 |
| iwkse | techno_freak: :) i'm saying so cause i told it to my friend and he said..ah it's a known bug....i wondered how much is known:) | 09:31 |
| techno_freak | iwkse, have you checked the forums? | 09:31 |
| iwkse | techno_freak: i surfed a on launchpad | 09:32 |
| iwkse | techno_freak: but forums, no.. | 09:32 |
| techno_freak | iwkse, still feel free to report a bug, it will help us to know what went wrong :) | 09:33 |
| iwkse | techno_freak: oki :) | 09:33 |
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| Iulian | Hey | 12:43 |
| pedro_ | hello | 12:43 |
| Iulian | Hiya pedro_ | 12:44 |
| thekorn | hey Iulian, pedro_ | 12:45 |
| pedro_ | hello thekorn | 12:48 |
| Iulian | Hi thekorn | 12:49 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 14:51 |
| jpatrick | bddebian: Moo. | 14:52 |
| bddebian | jpatrick: :-) | 14:58 |
| bdmurray | hello bug hunters | 15:48 |
| james_w | hi bdmurray | 15:50 |
| bdmurray | james_w: hey, you mentioned some samba upgrade bug / debconf question right? | 15:50 |
| james_w | bdmurray: yeah, slangasek looked at it and it is kind of intentional behaviour. | 15:51 |
| james_w | or rather unaviodable unwanted behaviour. | 15:51 |
| bdmurray | okay, I personally saw it this weekend and saved some logs | 15:51 |
| james_w | it should only happen in hardy->hardy upgrades, not dapper-> or gutsy-> so it's fine for release | 15:51 |
| james_w | bdmurray: you didn't happen to look at the diff in the gtk window did you? | 15:52 |
| bdmurray | Yes, I believe I looked at it. | 15:53 |
| james_w | did it look ok to you? | 15:53 |
| james_w | I wish I had had a proper look at it, rather than just deciding it was unreadable and carrying on | 15:53 |
| bdmurray | It seemed okay yes | 15:56 |
| qense | hello | 15:56 |
| bdmurray | hello! | 15:56 |
| james_w | bdmurray: ok, thanks for looking, I'll keep my eye out in future | 15:57 |
| james_w | or maybe I could try and provoke it. | 15:57 |
| * james_w finds my pointy stick | 15:57 | |
| bdmurray | james_w: I captured the 2 config files during the process if you want them | 15:57 |
| james_w | bdmurray: I should just be able to do it by editing the file, thanks. | 15:58 |
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| james_w | thekorn: another cool looking tool, thanks :) | 17:04 |
| thekorn | james_w, hehe | 17:05 |
| bdmurray | mvo: hello there | 17:07 |
| mvo | hey bdmurray | 17:10 |
| Iulian | james_w: Indeed :) | 17:11 |
| bdmurray | mvo: we are going to be looking at update-manager again for tomorrow's hug day. Is there anything new / special we should be aware of? | 17:16 |
| mvo | not that I know of right now | 17:16 |
| mvo | log files are still the most imporant bit required | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | mvo: I also ran across bug 182350 the other day and wasn't clear on the design decision there. | 17:19 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182350 in update-manager "no longer reports installed and available versions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182350 | 17:19 |
| nxvl | hi | 17:28 |
| nxvl | how do i get privilegies to edit the bugs priority? | 17:28 |
| bdmurray | nxvl: you need to be a member of the ubuntu-bugcontrol team to edit bug priority | 17:28 |
| nxvl | bdmurray: so i just need to "join this team" and wait for one admin to accept it, or do i need to send some extra documentation? | 17:30 |
| bdmurray | nxvl: there is some more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl | 17:31 |
| nxvl | bdmurray: ok, i have appied and i have al de requirements | 17:33 |
| nxvl | i will now searh for 5 bug reports i have triage and i will send you by PM | 17:33 |
| nxvl | is that correct? | 17:34 |
| bdmurray | nxvl: yes, an e-mail to me with those bugs would be great | 17:35 |
| nxvl | ok, looking for them now | 17:37 |
| nxvl | bdmurray: fixed bugs doesn't count, doesn't it? | 17:38 |
| bdmurray | nxvl: We are looking for bugs that you have triaged / worked with reporters on, so the bugs can absolutely be fixed. | 17:39 |
| bdmurray | Additionally, since as a member of the bug control team you will be able to assign importance it is good to know what importance you would give the bug reports. | 17:39 |
| mvo | bdmurray: bug 182350 was a design desision | 17:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182350 in update-manager "no longer reports installed and available versions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182350 | 17:51 |
| bdmurray | mvo: Okay, I was wondering where it was duplicated. | 17:52 |
| qense | are there hal developers on? I think they might find bug 203094 interesting | 18:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 203094 in libsmbios "hal cannot set brighness on Dell notebook computers if a BIOS password is set" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203094 | 18:42 |
| qense | (btw, maybe there should be a function added to this channel that you can poke a group) | 18:43 |
| andrea-bs | qense: please try on #ubuntu-dev ;) | 18:49 |
| james_w | #ubuntu-devel | 18:51 |
| andrea-bs | james_w: #ubuntu-dev redirects to -devel ;) | 18:54 |
| james_w | ah, thanks, never knew that, might save some characters. | 18:55 |
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| andrea-bs | :D | 18:56 |
| Nightrose | bdmurray: thx for approving me :) | 19:37 |
| bdmurray | Nightrose: no problem! | 19:37 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: Do you have an idea of how much work it would be to make another html bug listing page parsable? | 19:39 |
| bdmurray | Nightrose: I saw you were having an issue with the Gutsy version of python-launchpad-bugs is that right? | 19:40 |
| Nightrose | jep | 19:40 |
| bdmurray | Did you look at the upstream version i.e. pull it from bzr? | 19:41 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, it depends on how well structured the page is, | 19:42 |
| Nightrose | nope - I just tried the packaged one | 19:42 |
| thekorn | but parsing pages with xpath is easy | 19:42 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: it's pages like https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/gcc-bugzilla | 19:42 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: I forget did you make a gutsy ppa version of python-launchpad-bugs? | 19:44 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, yes 0.2.28 for gutsy is in PPA | 19:46 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, parsing of these bugtracker pages should be easy, | 19:47 |
| thekorn | when we find a way to handle the different status/importance values of the different trackers | 19:48 |
| bdmurray | I'm really just interested in getting the ubuntu bug numbers out of pages like than and then looking for upstream tasks | 19:49 |
| bdmurray | The url I posted is a list of ubuntu bugs with http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/ showing up in the comments | 19:49 |
| bdmurray | As I understand it | 19:50 |
| Nightrose | thekorn: which ppa? and would you reccomend me to use it? the packaged version in gutsy doesn't work for me | 19:50 |
| thekorn | Nightrose, https://edge.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/+archive | 19:50 |
| bdmurray | Nightrose: we need to do release a new version of python-launchpad-bugs for Gutsy. I'm sorry about that. | 19:50 |
| Nightrose | thekorn: thx :) | 19:51 |
| thekorn | Nightrose, I tested it for gutsy like two weeks ago | 19:51 |
| Nightrose | bdmurray: no prob | 19:51 |
| Nightrose | ok | 19:51 |
| bdmurray | If you go from that list to bug 172326 you'll see that it doesn't have an upstream watch. | 19:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 172326 in gcc-4.1 "Reproducable SIGSEGV (char ************* etc.)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172326 | 19:51 |
| bdmurray | But it should because in the last comment someone says they opened a bug but it just isn't linked to. | 19:52 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, right | 19:52 |
| thekorn | will work on parsing this buglist soon | 19:53 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, after finishing a first patch to fix bug 200457 | 19:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200457 in python-launchpad-bugs "URLBugListFilter missing milestones" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200457 | 19:54 |
| Nightrose | thekorn, bdmurray: still getting some warnings about API not being stable but it seems to work better now - will play around a little with it - thx | 20:07 |
| bdmurray | Nightrose: that is expected. Please let us know if you have any questions. | 20:07 |
| Nightrose | will do :) | 20:07 |
| nxvl | bdmurray: i have send you an e-mail one second ago | 20:30 |
| bdmurray | nxvl: I've received two of them | 20:33 |
| nxvl | mm | 20:33 |
| nxvl | strange | 20:33 |
| nxvl | :S | 20:33 |
| nxvl | but you received it, so it's fine | 20:33 |
| bdmurray | Indeed! | 20:33 |
| danage | hi! my 0.6.6 network manager in hardy does not save my wpa2 key | 20:41 |
| danage | network manager editor remains empty, key manager too | 20:42 |
| danage | gconf shows an entry for the network | 20:42 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, added a patch to 203312 | 21:09 |
| thekorn | bug 203312 | 21:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 203312 in python-launchpad-bugs "add ability to parse bugtracker overviews" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203312 | 21:09 |
| thekorn | I hope this works... | 21:09 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: Awesome! I'll test it today. | 21:14 |
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| owh | Hiya, where do I find the buildd logs to see what the output was of a particular package being built? | 22:13 |
| james_w | owh: the launchpad overview page for the package links to it | 22:18 |
| owh | Tah | 22:19 |
| owh | Hiya, I'm following the recipe at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff to create a debdiff. Thus far the way I've done this is to create a .orig directory, fix the bug, update the changelog appropriately and generate a diff -ruN between the .orig and the new directory. I'm doing this in a temporary alpha-6 hardy VM and setting it up as a build machine seems a lot of wasted effort. It needs a build environment, | 22:48 |
| pochu | owh: you got cutted: "It needs a build environment, | 22:51 |
| pochu | " | 22:51 |
| owh | ...needs a build environment, gpg keys, dev scripts to name a few. Is there a better way? | 22:52 |
| james_w | to create a debdiff you don't need to be on hardy. | 22:53 |
| owh | james_w: Well the package I'm fixing is in hardy. | 22:53 |
| james_w | you do to test it properly, but for a lot of things a chroot suffices for that (pbuilder) | 22:53 |
| james_w | owh: you can download it to gutsy or wherever if you like. | 22:53 |
| owh | So, I need to test it, make sure it builds, make sure that the debdiff I'm supplying will build, ultimately it's heading for a FFE. | 22:54 |
| james_w | if it's not a GUI app then you can do all of that in a chroot. If it is you only need to test it in a VM | 22:55 |
| james_w | you don't need a GPG key either. | 22:55 |
| owh | It's not a GUI. How do I stop debbuild failing with a GPG key error? | 22:56 |
| james_w | it should still have built the package. | 22:57 |
| pochu | "-us -uc" | 22:57 |
| james_w | but as pochu says that will stop it from trying to sign. | 22:58 |
| pochu | (unsign source unsign changes) | 22:58 |
| * owh has a go with those instructions. | 22:58 | |
| owh | Now isn't that interesting. After all that, I get the same result :) | 23:03 |
| owh | Excellent :) | 23:03 |
| owh | Should I update the recipe to add pochu's comment about the GPG key error? | 23:04 |
| pochu | feel free to add a note or a comment | 23:05 |
| owh | Hmm, just on the wording. I was thinking "If you're not signing this, then use...", but that's not really what's happening and I didn't think you'd want to encourage not signing stuff. Any suggestions on a better wording? | 23:09 |
| pochu | "If you don't have a GPG key, or if you aren't uploading the package by yourself to Ubuntu..." | 23:13 |
| pochu | perhaps note that only ubuntu devs can upload, so it's useless to sign it otherwise | 23:14 |
| james_w | pochu: I think the latter is probably true of most people reading the guide isn't it? | 23:14 |
| pochu | right | 23:14 |
| james_w | does REVU require signed uploads? | 23:14 |
| pochu | yes | 23:14 |
| pochu | and you need to be on ~ubuntu-universe-contributors | 23:14 |
| james_w | so it's more likely that someone less experienced will need to sign the package because of that. | 23:15 |
| pochu | well since you're making a debdiff in that recipe, it doesn't matter whether you sign the package or not | 23:16 |
| james_w | pochu: that's true. | 23:16 |
| james_w | anyway I'm done for the day. | 23:17 |
| pochu | so perhaps directly adding "-us -uc" and explaining what they do and why we add them | 23:17 |
| pochu | good night james_w | 23:17 |
| owh | At present here's what I have: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff | 23:17 |
| james_w | pochu: I think that's a good idea. With the note saying "If you want to upload the source package created at that stage use debsign to sign it" | 23:17 |
| owh | The recipe doesn't create a package, it creates a debdiff. | 23:18 |
| james_w | owh: I think pochu's last suggestion is the best, would you like to do that? | 23:18 |
| james_w | owh: it creates a source package from which to make the debdiff, that's what that stage is doing. | 23:18 |
| owh | So, then the opening statement of the recipe is wrong. | 23:18 |
| owh | It says that you need a key. | 23:18 |
| owh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff | 23:19 |
| james_w | owh: I don't see that. | 23:19 |
| owh | The two URLs are different. | 23:19 |
| owh | The last URL includes the first URL. | 23:20 |
| james_w | ah, sorry | 23:20 |
| owh | That is, the recipe includes the howto. | 23:20 |
| james_w | owh: yeah, you should change that too. | 23:20 |
| james_w | I must go, sorry. | 23:20 |
| james_w | night all | 23:20 |
| owh | Cheers james_w and thanks. | 23:20 |
| owh | I'm not sure that it's good policy to change the tone and nature of a document just like that. I mean the original author must have had a reason to put the GPG key information into the page. | 23:22 |
| pochu | he could be wrong | 23:23 |
| owh | At present I've put in the smallest change I can think of: or if you're creating an unsigned package: debuild -S -us -uc | 23:24 |
| pochu | we can ask him tomorrow though, he's dholbach on irc | 23:24 |
| pochu | but I think changing it it's fine | 23:24 |
| owh | pochu: So, you're advocating changing two pages? | 23:27 |
| pochu | owh: yes | 23:34 |
| pochu | owh: why not? the change is correct, isn't it? | 23:35 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: hi | 23:35 |
| bdmurray | seb128: hello | 23:35 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: do you have documentation advising users to copy their lsb informations to new bugs? could you change that to tell them to just copy the distribution information? | 23:35 |
| bdmurray | seb128: where would you recommend them getting it from? | 23:36 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: we get an increasing number of desktop bugs where people copy 6 lines at the start of every bug where we need 1 word | 23:36 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: well, just change the information to tell them to copy the distribution name and not the whole thing? | 23:37 |
| owh | pochu: As I understand it yes, but that doesn't mean I'm correct. | 23:37 |
| bdmurray | seb128: if you go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug-advanced you can see them below the description box | 23:38 |
| owh | pochu: I'd feel more comfortable discussing it with Daniel first. | 23:38 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: right, they just run the command and copy the log to the bug | 23:38 |
| pochu | owh: as you want. he'll likely be around in ~7 or 8 hours | 23:39 |
| pochu | owh: it's a wiki anyway, so reverting a change is trivial ;) | 23:39 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: that's a detail but it makes the bugs slightly harder to read | 23:39 |
| owh | pochu: I'll still be awake :) | 23:39 |
| owh | pochu: Just because you can, doesn't mean you should :) | 23:39 |
| pochu | seb128, bdmurray: perhaps the output of "lsb_release -rc" ? | 23:40 |
| bdmurray | seb128: I understand your point but adding in a head or a grep might make it more error prone | 23:40 |
| pochu | bdmurray: no need for that ^ :) | 23:40 |
| seb128 | bdmurray: what pochu wrote | 23:40 |
| bdmurray | Do you know if that works in all the releases we support? | 23:41 |
| pochu | (there's more options, but I think those are the more sensible ones) | 23:41 |
| seb128 | that should | 23:41 |
| seb128 | might be worth asking on #ubuntu-devel to be sure though | 23:41 |
| bdmurray | I'll fire up a vm and check | 23:41 |
| bdmurray | That sounds like a great idea though, thanks! | 23:42 |
| owh | bdmurray: It works on 8.04 server and 7.10 workstation. | 23:42 |
| * owh just checked. | 23:43 | |
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