[07:12] <isha> live cd created based on the ubuntu doc is not mounting the filesystem, why?
[09:18] <Le_Vert_> hello :)
[09:19] <Le_Vert_> I reported some monthes ago a bug that affected preseeded ubiquity installation
[09:19] <Le_Vert_> partitionning crashes
[09:19] <Le_Vert_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/182004
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 182004 in ubiquity "partitioner fails if partially preseeded due to seen flag madness" [Medium,In progress]
[09:19] <Le_Vert_> any progress on this ?
[11:07] <xivulon> cjwatson,evand, I am still trying to figure out how to remount vfat (#201750), would it be possible to turn on the workaround for beta?
[11:07] <xivulon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/201750/comments/1
[11:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201750 in wubi "Cannot remount loopfiles inside of vfat" [High,Confirmed]
[11:10] <xivulon> The situation is that ntfs cannot be remounted ro->rw, vfat can be remounted, and loopfiles in there can also be remounted in a simple setup (via blockdev), but that does not work on /
[11:11] <xivulon> The workaround above would spare me a few needless tickets
[13:03] <evand> xivulon: I'm weary of making any such change with the Beta due out in three days.
[13:15] <xivulon> My take is this: without that change all vfat users are cut out, and since we already have such an exception for ntfs, extending to other filesystem should not really bring in any surprises
[13:16] <xivulon> or to put it differently: for non wubi users nothing changes, for ntfs users nothing changes, for vfat users they will be able to run ubuntu via wubi as opposed of going through the installation and reboot into an unbootable system
[13:17] <xivulon> so I do not really see a downside in not having that in
[13:18] <evand> Ok, but it's not my call to make.  Beta freeze is a hard freeze and uploads are subject to approval by the release team.  So you'll need to file a freeze exception.
[13:18] <cjwatson> #ubuntu-release is the place to ask
[13:18] <xivulon> thanks will do
[14:46] <CIA-24> pkgsel: cjwatson * r102 ubuntu/ (63 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.17
[14:48] <cjwatson> ^- upload not needed until after beta
[15:54] <mario_limonciell> evand, will you be updating oem-config before the beta?  bug 198179 was marked fix committed, so could we see that added or no?
[15:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198179 in oem-config "oem-config timezone map is off" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198179
[15:56] <evand> mario_limonciell: I'll give it a shot.  Depends entirely on what the release team tells me.
[15:58] <mario_limonciell> alrighty
[15:58] <evand> I'll keep you posted though
[15:58] <mario_limonciell> and no news on noninteractive's package installer i take it?
[16:00] <evand> I've taken a break from it as there are a lot of other things that need my attention, but I'm going to take another look soon.
[16:00] <mario_limonciell> understandable.
[16:01] <mario_limonciell> i'll file a bug to track this so it doesn't get lost in the rush the next few weeks
[16:01] <evand> mario_limonciell: thanks, feel free to assign it to me
[16:01] <mario_limonciell> k
[16:26] <mario_limonciell> evand, is that new grub installer preseed option required in noninteractive now?  I didn't add it yet, but I just got a failed install with GrubInstaller failed with code 1 on a noninteractive
[16:27] <mario_limonciell> with a daily from 20080317
[16:27] <evand> it shouldn't be.  I'll take a look in a minute
[16:33] <mario_limonciell> evand, i'll get you a clean backtrace after lunch
[16:35] <xivulon> is that something that might affect wubi as well?
[17:26] <CIA-24> casper: cjwatson * r480 casper/ (bin/casper-snapshot debian/changelog): * Name generated snapshot images according to their type (LP: #202699).
[18:48] <mario_limonciell> evand, i looked closer at the error and it appears the partitioning scheme that grub-installer chose was different than normal (so our seed needs to be adjusted).  Is there a particular reason it would have changed?
[18:50] <evand> mario_limonciell: can you elaborate on what you mean by the partitioning scheme that grub-installer chose?
[18:54] <mario_limonciell> evand, well previously it created a primary partition for /, and then an extended partition with a logical child partition for swap
[18:54] <mario_limonciell> this time around it made an extended partition with two logical partitions
[18:54] <mario_limonciell> since we hardcode to (hd0,2) in our seed, this run through failed
[19:00] <evand> aiui, you can force a partition to be primary by using the $primary{ } keyword.  Perhaps cjwatson's relaxing of the requirement that the root partition be primary triggered the change for you.
[19:00] <evand> At least that's how I'm reading the changelog entry for partman-auto_73ubuntu4
[19:02] <mario_limonciell> where should that $primary{ } keyword be provided?
[19:02] <mario_limonciell> in the preseed against something?
[19:02] <evand> in your partitioning recipe
[19:03] <mario_limonciell> well currently we are just letting it select "Guided - use the largest continous free space" and "All files in one partition (recommended for new users)"
[19:04] <mario_limonciell> so where in there would that fit?
[19:12] <evand> you'd have to preseed partman-auto/expert_recipe instead and place it in there.  See section B.4.5 of the installation-guide.
[19:14] <mario_limonciell> well it'd probably just be easier in this case to switch it over to (hd0,4) instead rather than having to write our own recipe though.  this behavior shouldn't be changing again for this cycle should it?
[19:15] <evand> I have no plans to make any such changes to partman-auto for the rest of this cycle.  You'd have to check with cjwatson to find out if he does.
[19:16] <mario_limonciell> okay to get the installs going right now i'll just switch that.  cjwatson can you let me know your plans next time your about?
[19:22] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: I didn't expect it to break anyone :)
[19:23] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: it's a deliberate relaxation of partitioning rules which makes life a lot easier in some scenarios; I don't expect it to change back unless there's a major problem with it
[19:23] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: if you want to force the partition to be primary for whatever reason, then adding $primary{ } to your recipe is correct
[19:24] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: the default (no $primary{ }) is that if there is already a primary partition on the disk, the new partition will be logical; otherwise the installer will pick a partition from the list you provided (typically the first) and make it primary
[19:24] <cjwatson> i.e. assert(there exists at least one primary partition on each modified disk) is true after autopartitioning
[19:25] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: consider letting it use logical partitions if you can, though; primary partitions are subject to tighter constraints and it's better to use logical partitions where possible
[19:26] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: this is actually partly in response to Dell :-) the Dell laptop I got, and I understand a number of others, shipped with three primary partitions in the default Windows-only setup; this meant that Ubuntu was unable to offer auto-resizing
[19:27] <cjwatson> if you have any logical partitions, you can only have a maximum of three primary partitions on the disk
[19:30] <mario_limonciell> cjwatson, ah i understand.  Switching to logical partitions should be fine in this case.  I'll adjust our seed as necessary then.  Thanks
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config: evand * r433 oem-config/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config: * Port changes to zoommap.py from ubiquity:
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config:  - Use a black border around tzmap points to assist the visually
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config:  impaired.
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config:  - Flash the currently selected location on the tzmap so that it's easier
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config:  to spot.
[19:39] <CIA-24> oem-config:  - When clicking on the tzmap, if the closest match is already selected,
[20:09] <CIA-24> localechooser: cjwatson * r127 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.42ubuntu3
[22:22] <TheMuso> evand: We don't need pulseaudio running for only-ubiquity. I'm going to work out how we can safely disable it for that mode only, making sure its enabled for the desktop install.
[22:23] <mario_limonciell> TheMuso, how does it get started in only-ubiquity in the first place?
[22:23] <TheMuso> mario_limonciell: gnome-settings-daemon
[22:23] <TheMuso> mario_limonciell: As gnome-settings-daemon reads gconf settings and takes appropriate action.
[22:24] <mario_limonciell> so can't you set the gconf setting via ubiquity-dm before it spawns g-s-d then, and change it prior to reboot?
[22:24] <TheMuso> mario_limonciell: Thats what I was thinking, with the exception of not needing to do anything prior to reboot, as you would need to have it done in a ubiquity-hook script for it to be perminant.
[22:25] <mario_limonciell> TheMuso, ah yeah, good point
[22:25] <TheMuso> mario_limonciell: I'm going to test it here now, and if it works, I'll push to ubiquity bzr.
[22:25] <mario_limonciell> oh are you part of ~ubuntu-installer now?
[22:26] <TheMuso> Yes, so I can help out with a11y installer issues.
[22:26] <mario_limonciell> cool :)
[22:26] <TheMuso> Have been since January.
[22:39] <xivulon> Hi all
[22:39] <xivulon> ops
[22:39] <xivulon> wrong channel...