[00:00] <superm1_> well dont change it in mcc -
[00:00] <superm1_> that will change the driver too
[00:00] <superm1_> but there is only one conf file to include
[00:00] <rhpot1991> ya
[00:00] <superm1_> for mceusb to be a possible rmoet
[00:00] <rhpot1991> thats what I did
[00:00] <rhpot1991> let me reboot and make sure its not loading the old by accident even though I reloaded and restarted lirc
[00:10] <rhpot1991> superm1_: I know what lircd command is run, how do I run that not as a daemon?
[00:10] <superm1_> lircd --help
[00:10] <superm1_> i dont know off hand
[00:11] <rhpot1991> ok, it goes ready, and nothing else
[00:12] <rhpot1991> bad lirc hardware config?
[00:12] <superm1_> well that's normal
[00:12] <superm1_> you know
[00:12] <superm1_> you can always irrecord a remote
[00:12] <superm1_> and call it a day
[00:58] <jed> I am having trouble downloading 8.04alpha4 is anyone else having this trouble?
[01:01] <tgm4883> jed, what is the trouble
[01:02] <jed> When i click on the link to download the I386 iso or the md5sum it goes to a blank page without any link to a file or any download starting
[01:03] <jed> the link goes to this page: http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso
[01:03] <tgm4883> where do you live?
[01:04] <tgm4883> also, try refreshing that page?
[01:04] <tgm4883> and what browser do you use
[01:07] <tgm4883> jed, still there?
[01:08] <linnix> yeah sorry about that i had some wireless trouble but i am back now
[01:10] <tgm4883> linnix = jed?
[01:11] <tgm4883> where do you live? what browser do you use?  and have you tried refreshing the page?
[01:11] <linnix> yes sorry mirc closed on me but didn't kill the jed session so linnix is my alt name
[01:12] <tgm4883> ok
[01:12] <tgm4883> those above questions are for you
[01:12] <linnix> United states - Colorado, i was using firefox (i will try ie and safri in a second) and i did try a refresh
[01:12] <tgm4883> hmm, interesting
[01:13] <tgm4883> do you have javascript enabled?
[01:13] <linnix> yeah i sure do
[01:14] <linnix> I see a javascrip error with IE let me copy it down for you, just a moment
[01:15] <linnix> Line 7, char: 1, Error: Object Expected, Code: 0 URL http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso
[01:17] <linnix> error in firefox is: urchinTracker is not defined http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso
[01:17] <linnix> I am not sure if this helps or not
[01:17] <tgm4883> I will pass that along to the guy who wrote the script
[01:18] <tgm4883> you are looking for the alt i386 iso?
[01:20] <tgm4883> linnix, might I be able to help you with this
[01:20] <tgm4883> http://mirror.foxmediasystems.com/mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-desktop-i386.iso
[01:21] <linnix> yes i am but i tried all of the links and none of them worked (8.04a i386 desktop/alt or amd desktop/alt nor did the md5 sums)
[01:21] <linnix> thanks
[01:21] <tgm4883> afaik, there is a problem with the alt disks, and they need to be pulled
[01:40] <superm1_> tgm4883, yeah they do need to be pulled.  i dont know why they are broke yet
[01:40] <superm1_> but they are
[01:40] <tgm4883> k
[01:43] <tgm4883> pulled
[01:48] <linnix> is there a direct link that i can use?
[01:48] <superm1_> linnix, what version of FF are you running?
[01:48] <superm1_> and are you using adblock plus?
[01:48] <superm1_> or noscript
[01:48] <superm1_> or anything similar?
[01:51] <tgm4883> linnix, i gave you a direct link
[01:52] <linnix> FF 2.0.0.1
[01:53] <linnix> and no popup blocker were used
[01:53] <linnix> where is the direct link?
[01:54] <superm1_> well that's rather odd that you were getting that
[01:54] <superm1_> my suspicion would be that higher up something is filtering our click tracking
[01:54] <superm1_> http://mirror.foxmediasystems.com/mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-desktop-i386.iso
[01:54] <superm1_> thats the URL tgm4883 gave you
[01:55] <asmythe> what is the best card for mythtv
[01:57] <linnix> asmythe, i have had a lot of luck with my hauppauge pvr350
[02:01] <tritium> asmythe: for HD, I like my DViCo Fusion, and the HDHomeRun (external)
[02:15] <asmythe> I want to add another tuner to my mythtv box same quality as my tv wonder pro
[02:24] <superm1_> asmythe, the hauppauge pvr series cards are the way to go then i say
[02:24] <superm1_> pvr 150,250,350, 500
[03:38] <asmythe> thanks I will look for 1 of those
[03:45] <sslashes> i'm so dumbfounded: i cannot - regardless of what i do - install mythbuntu 8.04 a4. the desktop version won't let me select any items on the bootmenu - it doesn't respond to any keyboard input - i tried the ubuntu 8.04 a6 desktop cd, and that worked fined - additionally, the ubuntu alternative cd doesn't exhibit this issue - any ideas?
[03:46] <sslashes> by "ubuntu alternative" cd, i mean both the ubuntu and mythbuntu alternative cds
[03:46] <sslashes> so this issue is *only* with the mythbuntu desktop cd
[03:47] <superm1_> sslashes, usb keyboard?
[03:49] <sslashes> superm1_: usb, ps2, and usb using a usb to ps2 converted =)
[03:49] <superm1_> hm interesting
[03:50] <sslashes> i cannot think of any reason why that would occur...
[03:51] <superm1_> if [$user = "sslashes" ]; then act_bad(); else act_normal() fi
[03:51] <superm1_> :)
[03:51] <sslashes> hehe
[03:56] <superm1_> sslashes, fwiw, i found the bug on the alt disks
[03:56] <superm1_> it should be resolved with tonight's build
[03:57] <superm1_> as long as i got these changes in in time
[03:57] <superm1_> which i think i di
[03:57] <superm1_> did
[03:57] <superm1_> i'll verify once the build finishes (at ~1:30 cst)
[03:58] <rhpot1991> superm1_: does a user created with mythbuntu automagically get added to the mythtv group?
[03:58] <superm1_> rhpot1991, only in the desktop installer
[03:58] <superm1_> not the alternate
[03:58] <rhpot1991> ok good, lets see if thats the problem
[03:58] <sslashes> superm1_: great, i'm bitting at the bit to get this alpha installed =)
[03:58] <superm1_> rhpot1991, how'd you install?
[03:58] <rhpot1991> latest alpha desktop cd
[03:59] <rhpot1991> !pastebin
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:00] <rhpot1991> superm1_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59894/
[04:00] <rhpot1991> made mythtv own that even
[04:00] <rhpot1991> drwxr-xr-x are the perms on it, should work
[04:00] <superm1_> how are you starting mythbackend?
[04:01] <rhpot1991> init.d
[04:01] <superm1_> okay
[04:01] <superm1_> can you do ls -alh on / then?
[04:01] <rhpot1991> frontend is run as john, which doesn't seem to have perms to write to that
[04:01] <superm1_> let me just see what it says on it
[04:01] <superm1_> and then ls -alh on /mythtv too
[04:02] <superm1_> see now if you stuck with the default directories odds are this wouldn'ta happened.... ;)
[04:02] <rhpot1991> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59896/
[04:02] <rhpot1991> heh
[04:02] <rhpot1991> I like my /mythtv scheme
[04:02] <rhpot1991> actually I'll go check against those
[04:03] <superm1_> hm well those look sane
[04:03] <rhpot1991> different perms
[04:03] <superm1_> probably rwxrwxr-x
[04:03] <rhpot1991> drwxrwsr-x
[04:03] <rhpot1991> know what that is in digits off the top of your head?
[04:04] <superm1_> i'm not sure what the sticky bit does on it?
[04:04] <superm1_> it shouldn't matter
[04:04] <sslashes> superm1_: where are the daily builds available?
[04:05] <superm1_> sslashes, cdimages.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <superm1_> only alternates are built daily
[04:05] <superm1_> the desktop cds are much more preferable to use though, because they do a lot of magic during install that cant be done on the alternate yet
[04:06] <superm1_> rhpot1991, but i mean if you ignore sticky bit, it should just be 775 should it not?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> I got the sticky bit on, still no go
[04:07] <rhpot1991> my user can do things in there now
[04:07] <superm1_> your user doesnt need to do things in there
[04:07] <superm1_> its only the 'mythtv' user
[04:07] <superm1_> you can try this
[04:07] <superm1_> sudo su mythtv
[04:07] <superm1_> and become the user
[04:07] <superm1_> and see what he can and can't do
[04:07] <rhpot1991> he can touch files
[04:08] <superm1_> is that log current then?
[04:08] <rhpot1991> no, but its still doing the same, so its current enough
[04:08] <rhpot1991> let me verify my fstab isn't funky
[04:09] <rhpot1991> and this kids, is why you don't touch working hardware...
[04:12] <superm1_> i do it all the time
[04:12] <superm1_> i'm just careful
[04:12] <rhpot1991> well the problem is I went all new hardware, and I'm used to configuring the old stuff
[04:18] <superm1_> so are you amd64 this time installed?
[04:18] <rhpot1991> yep
[04:18] <rhpot1991> I have an idea of what it might be, checking now
[04:19] <superm1_> something silly i hope
[04:19] <rhpot1991> ah darn, looks like nx doesn't work here
[04:19] <rhpot1991> it is silly
[04:19] <rhpot1991> complained about something gnome related
[04:19] <rhpot1991> thats a shame
[04:19] <superm1_> that's what is was?
[04:20] <rhpot1991> no, thats nx not working
[04:21] <superm1_> oh
[04:21] <superm1_> so what was it then?'
[04:22] <rhpot1991> I don't know if I should tell you
[04:22] <rhpot1991> I have to have some pride after all :)
[04:22] <superm1_> oh come on
[04:23] <superm1_> what was it
[04:23] <rhpot1991> I did /mythtv/drive1/ in my file system, and /mythtv/disk1/ in the mythtv-setup
[04:23] <superm1_> haha
[04:23] <superm1_> yeah so you did
[04:23] <rhpot1991> btw this display works good on here
[04:23] <rhpot1991> lcdproc
[04:24] <superm1_> easy to make work?
[04:24] <rhpot1991> installed lcdproc and went to the config and told it to use the imon driver
[04:24] <rhpot1991> then turned it on in mythtv
[04:24] <superm1_> want to add a page to mcc to prettify that?
[04:24] <superm1_> or is it worth it?
[04:24] <rhpot1991> not sure its that hard to do that it requires something on MCC
[04:25] <rhpot1991> if I ever get lirc working I was planning on doing a wiki page on the fusion
[04:25] <rhpot1991> easy enough to just toss it in there
[04:25] <rhpot1991> I have to be doing something stupid, cause I don't seem to see any talk about lirc problems and I'm sure there are lots of people using the fusion
[04:27] <rhpot1991> thats semi annoying, power button on this remote turns my xbox on
[04:27] <superm1_> haha
[04:27] <superm1_> that's really annoying
[04:27] <superm1_> electrical tape to the rescue
[04:27] <superm1_> again
[04:28] <rhpot1991> seriously
[04:28] <superm1_> do you use it for anything else?
[04:28] <superm1_> i mean that you need the ir
[04:28] <rhpot1991> the 360?
[04:28] <superm1_> the mceusb remote + 360
[04:29] <rhpot1991> mceremote is just for the mythbox for now
[04:29] <rhpot1991> 360 is just for games
[04:29] <superm1_> yeah then electrical tape on the 360
[04:29] <rhpot1991> if irrecord can see button presses then the remote should be compatable with the receiver right?
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> you can disable the remote on the 360
[04:31] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: I'll just do that then
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> although for some reason mine was still turning on for some reason
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> so try disabling it first
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> and if that doesn't work, then get some white tape
[04:31] <rhpot1991> anyone know a command line cpu temp sensor?
[04:32] <superm1_> sensors
[04:32] <superm1_> you may need to run sensors-detect first though
[04:32] <superm1_> and hit yes to everything, cept at the end you need to type yes
[04:34] <tgm4883_laptop> lmsensors
[04:34] <rhpot1991> Core1 Temp:  +24.0Â°C
[04:34] <rhpot1991> suppose thats good enogh
[04:35] <rhpot1991> I had a hard time getting the fan on, so I am kinda worried about the heat
[04:35] <rhpot1991> though one core is hotter than the other
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, getting the fan on?
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> oh you mean mounted
[04:35] <rhpot1991> heatsink
[04:35] <rhpot1991> not fan, just the whole sink
[04:35] <rhpot1991> was contemplating redoing it, but I was tired so I didn't
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> when i mounted mine on my C2D, i thought it was broke cause when i turned the system on it didn't move
[04:36] <superm1_> good enough, that's pretty good
[04:36] <rhpot1991> my buddy did that, and it apparently has some strange plug on the bottom
[04:36] <rhpot1991> that he missed
[04:36] <superm1_> supermario's CPU temp is 35.5 C
[04:36] <rhpot1991> spam warning
[04:36] <rhpot1991> Core0 Temp:  +17.0Â°C
[04:36] <rhpot1991> Core0 Temp:   +6.0Â°C
[04:36] <rhpot1991> Core1 Temp:  +24.0Â°C
[04:36] <rhpot1991> Core1 Temp:   +9.0Â°C
[04:37] <superm1_> out but my core temp is 12 C
[04:37] <superm1_> the CPU fan temp is 35
[04:37] <rhpot1991> hmmm, mine is only saying core temps
[04:37] <superm1_> yeah you need to run sensors-detecft
[04:37] <superm1_> to get the other sensors added
[04:37] <rhpot1991> I did
[04:37] <superm1_> and at the end it lists some modules
[04:37] <superm1_> modprobe those
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> mine actually only spins up when it needs cooled
[04:39] <rhpot1991> Sys Temp:    +28.0Â°C CPU Temp:    +25.0Â°C
[04:39] <superm1_> that's how my old P4 was too
[04:39] <rhpot1991> superm1_: you should look at this fan for your microatx
[04:39] <superm1_> not my pentium d though :(
[04:39] <superm1_> rhpot1991, i got a thermaltake 15 dollar deally
[04:39] <superm1_> it works fine
[04:40] <rhpot1991> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185046&Tpk=Scythe%2bNinja%2bmini
[04:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm using my stock heatsink and it doesn't get to hot
[04:40] <rhpot1991> well hold on to that for when you upgrade
[04:40] <superm1_> god that looks excessive
[04:40]  * rhpot1991 had a heck of a time finding a fan for the antec fusion
[04:40] <superm1_> wouldn't fit in my microatx i fear
[04:41] <superm1_> very little room by the power supply and CPU
[04:41] <superm1_> they are like neck to neck
[04:41] <rhpot1991> ah
[04:41] <rhpot1991> need a new case then too :)
[04:41] <superm1_> no not at all
[04:41] <rhpot1991> may I suggest an antec fusion
[04:41] <superm1_> let me go get camera and show
[04:41] <superm1_> brb
[04:41] <rhpot1991> then you can fix lirc and tell me how
[04:42] <tgm4883> bah, i think i screwed up encoding this file
[04:43] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: what are you encoding for?
[04:43] <rhpot1991> is that no password bug still in MCC apparently?
[04:44] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, was thinking about encoding all my dvd rips into xvid or h264
[04:44] <tgm4883> so i can play them back on my 360
[04:44] <tgm4883> but i'm getting some horizontal tearing
[04:44] <rhpot1991> don't you do iso?
[04:44] <rhpot1991> or didn't you
[04:44] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, the 360 doesn't play iso
[04:45] <rhpot1991> ya I know
[04:45] <rhpot1991> really need it to play them?>
[04:46] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, didn't you see the wiki about the VFD and knob on the Fusion?
[04:46] <tgm4883> If i'm going to use the 360 as a frontend, then yess
[04:46] <rhpot1991> you should transcode on the fly, that would be slick
[04:46] <superm1_> http://picasaweb.google.com/superm1/MythTVFrontend/photo#5178567331313266578
[04:46] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: the one on wiki.mythtv?
[04:46] <rhpot1991> superm1_: ouch, that would not fit at all
[04:46] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, yea
[04:47] <tgm4883> eh, transcoding on the fly may be a waste of some good processing power
[04:47] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: how so
[04:47] <rhpot1991> you planning on watching them that many times each?
[04:47] <tgm4883> i could put that processor to better uses
[04:48] <superm1_> rhpot1991, yeah that case is really really tight, but it makes it look nice at least
[04:48] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: that only tells you how to do the wheel though, I am trying to just get the remote working right now
[04:49] <foxbuntu> oh didn't know it had a remote
[04:49] <rhpot1991> ya it has a built in IR sensor
[04:50] <rhpot1991> imon of some sort, that is supposed to be compatable with mce remotes
[04:50] <rhpot1991> what desktop manager does mythbuntu use by default?
[04:50] <foxbuntu> imon or mce?
[04:50] <foxbuntu> xfce4
[04:50] <rhpot1991> its an imon sensor according to what I have read
[04:51] <rhpot1991> I tried the mce ones hoping, no go, imon ones aren't being very helpful either
[04:54] <superm1_> woah the new gphoto library is rather nice
[04:54] <superm1_> my camera operates in PTP mode normally
[04:54] <superm1_> but this obfuscates that
[04:54] <superm1_> and makes it look like its acting in USB mode
[04:55] <superm1_> rhpot1991, refresh that web album
[04:55] <superm1_> you can see the front view of it
[04:56] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, you tried an hal-device query to find the ir receiver and find out whaqt it shows up as?
[04:56] <rhpot1991> nice
[04:56] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: I looked at it via lsusb
[04:57] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, hal-device provides more details
[04:57] <rhpot1991> SoundGraph Inc. iMON PAD Remote Controller
[05:01] <rhpot1991> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59900/
[05:01] <rhpot1991> I wonder if its bad that the first has lirc_imon as the driver and the 2nd has usb
[05:02] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, I have an idea
[05:02] <rhpot1991> lets hear it
[05:04] <foxbuntu_laptop> sudo cp /usr/share/lirc/remotes/imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[05:04] <foxbuntu_laptop> sudo mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[05:05] <rhpot1991> is there anything I should import from my old db other than my recording schedule if I am not bringing any recordings with me?
[05:05] <foxbuntu_laptop> then restart lirc and mythfrontend
[05:05] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu_laptop: give me a second
[05:05] <foxbuntu_laptop> k
[05:05] <rhpot1991> gonna need to disable the mce usb
[05:05] <foxbuntu_laptop> k
[05:06] <rhpot1991> you want me to do that with the imon enabled right?
[05:06] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, what do you mean enabled?
[05:06] <rhpot1991> selected via MCC
[05:06] <foxbuntu_laptop> ignore MCC
[05:06] <foxbuntu_laptop> close it
[05:06] <rhpot1991> actually imon is already loaded
[05:07] <foxbuntu_laptop> oh also...
[05:07] <foxbuntu_laptop> sudo depmod imon_pad
[05:08] <foxbuntu_laptop> er
[05:08] <foxbuntu_laptop> modprobe i mean
[05:08] <rhpot1991> s/imon_pad/lirc_imon
[05:09] <foxbuntu_laptop> lol
[05:09] <foxbuntu_laptop> yea
[05:09]  * foxbuntu_laptop is getting tired
[05:09] <rhpot1991> irw isn't gonna like this, its a mce remote not the imon pad :(
[05:10] <foxbuntu_laptop> well you might need to do some crazy stuff to make it all work
[05:10] <rhpot1991> ya
[05:10] <foxbuntu_laptop> did you enable the lirc_imon in the hardware.conf
[05:10] <rhpot1991> I can cat /dev/lirc0 and see crap
[05:10] <rhpot1991> it was before, now its mce (thats what I was talking about disabling before)
[05:11] <sslashes> superm1_: the desktop cd bootmenu acts normally on my setup with mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2, alpha 3 exhibits the same problem as the latest alpha (an unresponsive bootmenu)
[05:12] <superm1_> sslashes, that's really bzr
[05:15] <sslashes> heh, yeah - idk ho to explain it
[05:16] <sslashes> *how
[05:16] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, so if you have the lirc_imon enabled in the hardware.conf and load it with depmod/modprobe and then use the MCE lircd.conf
[05:17] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, don't try to do it with MCC
[05:17] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu_laptop: I tried that with no luck
[05:17] <rhpot1991> coulda messed something up though
[05:18] <rhpot1991> let me try it agian
[05:28] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu_laptop: did that, I don't see a thing with irw then
[05:28] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, right...but irw doesn't do anything for my MCE either
[05:28] <rhpot1991> does it matter that hardware.conf still has this REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad"
[05:28] <foxbuntu_laptop> try it on the frontend
[05:28] <rhpot1991> ah
[05:28] <rhpot1991> whats the easiest way to restart the frontend, I'm use to killing gdm on my old box
[05:28] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, yes it matters
[05:29] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, clear that out so it uses the default config
[05:29] <foxbuntu_laptop> which if you copied the MCE file over it should be your MCE remote
[05:30] <rhpot1991> ya I did that then reran the lircgenerator
[05:30] <foxbuntu_laptop> k
[05:30] <foxbuntu_laptop> so make REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad" to REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF=""
[05:30] <rhpot1991> yep
[05:30] <foxbuntu_laptop> and you restarted lirc after that?
[05:31] <rhpot1991> yep, just rebooted the box actually
[05:31] <foxbuntu_laptop> k
[05:31] <rhpot1991> cause I don't have a keyboard hooked up to restart the frontend
[05:31] <foxbuntu_laptop> oh
[05:31] <foxbuntu_laptop> well ssh
[05:31] <rhpot1991> wasn't sure how to spawn it there
[05:31] <foxbuntu_laptop> you using vnc?
[05:31] <rhpot1991> like I said, I used to restart gdm, but I don't have that now
[05:31] <rhpot1991> ssh
[05:31] <rhpot1991> and nx
[05:31] <foxbuntu_laptop> oh
[05:32] <rhpot1991> though nx with xfce4 sucks
[05:32] <rhpot1991> so I might have to go back to vnc
[05:32] <rhpot1991> no go on the frontend
[05:32] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, gdm should still be there
[05:32] <superm1_> hm anyone ever notice that in xfce none of the screensavers show up in the list?
[05:32] <rhpot1991> I did get stuff in irw with this remote and the dongle that belongs with it
[05:32] <superm1_> this is rather odd
[05:32] <foxbuntu_laptop> xfce is just over the top of gdm
[05:33] <superm1_> but they do when x forwarding...
[05:33] <superm1_> wtf?
[05:36] <foxbuntu_laptop> rhpot1991, any remote functionality?
[05:37] <rhpot1991> none in mythtv
[05:37] <rhpot1991> bastard still turns my xbox on though :P
[05:37] <foxbuntu_laptop> lol
[05:37] <foxbuntu_laptop> yeah that drove me nutz while I had my 360
[05:38] <superm1_> interesting... it's the XDG_CONFIG_DIRS env variable making it not work right
[05:43] <superm1_> i think i know how to fix it
[05:43] <superm1_> stupid xdg stuff
[05:43] <superm1_> wonder why no one ever complained about it?
[05:43] <foxbuntu_laptop> brb
[05:43] <superm1_> does no one use screensavers these days?
[05:43] <rhpot1991> not I
[05:43] <rhpot1991> also I prefer gnome
[05:43] <rhpot1991> so I will complain after I use this for a while
[05:44] <foxbuntu_laptop> superm1_, I use screen blanking
[05:44] <foxbuntu_laptop> :)
[05:45] <superm1_> lazy
[05:45] <rhpot1991> whats up with this database access denied mythweb stuff when you setup a username now?
[05:45] <rhpot1991> also the installer username and password didn't work on my install, left it wide open
[05:48] <superm1_> rhpot1991, talk to laga
[05:48] <superm1_> make sure he gets that stuff resolved
[05:48] <superm1_> on both ends
[05:48] <superm1_> see why don't people report these things :)
[05:48] <rhpot1991> I saw a report somewhere
[05:48] <rhpot1991> though I could be making it up
[05:49] <superm1_> rhpot1991, btw i got your firewire tester included in this next upcoming build
[05:49] <rhpot1991> I saw that
[05:50] <rhpot1991> any bright ideas on the port/node problem?
[05:50] <superm1_> for mythprime?
[05:50] <rhpot1991> ya
[05:50] <superm1_> yeah - it just needs some short source changes to let those be arguments
[05:50] <superm1_> i didnt go through and "do" that yet, but it doesnt look like it should be very involved
[05:51] <rhpot1991> hmmmm, thats not good
[05:52] <superm1_> why?
[05:52] <rhpot1991> no not that, mythweb still opened up
[05:54] <MUS4SHIII> hi all
[05:55] <superm1_> okay fixed that screensaver bug
[05:55] <superm1_> still can't believe no one caught that
[05:55] <rhpot1991> screensavers are a thing of the past
[05:55] <MUS4SHIII> I'm having some lirc trouble, can anyone help?
[05:56] <rhpot1991> depends on the troubles
[05:56] <rhpot1991> ask away
[05:56]  * foxbuntu_laptop wants to stab lirc tonight
[05:56]  * rhpot1991 does as well
[05:56]  * tgm4883_laptop stabs rhpot1991 instead
[05:56] <MUS4SHIII> I have it up and running, irw spits out codes, it works in mythtv, but I can't seem to add buttons to the lircrc. as soon as I add even one button, the config stops working
[05:56]  * superm1_ prohibits all stabbing
[05:56] <rhpot1991> you missed me, but got this poor tree instead
[05:56]  * foxbuntu_laptop stabs RNDIS devices instead
[05:57] <rhpot1991> MUS4SHIII: where are you adding buttons?
[05:57] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, how are you adding those lines?
[05:57] <superm1_> by a windows editor by chance?
[05:57] <tgm4883_laptop> MUS4SHIII, are you restarting the frontend after you restart lirc?
[05:57] <MUS4SHIII> /etc/.lircrc and /home/user/.mythtv/lircrc
[05:57] <MUS4SHIII> yes i'm restarting the front end
[05:58] <rhpot1991> restarting lirc?
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII> begin
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     remote = mceusb
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     prog = mythtv
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     button = Back
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     config = Esc
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     repeat = 0
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII>     delay = 0
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII> end
[05:58] <superm1_> !pastebin | MUS4SHIII
[05:58] <ubotu> MUS4SHIII: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:58] <rhpot1991> !pastebin |MUS4SHIII
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII> ok, sorry
[05:58] <tgm4883_laptop> !flood | rhpot1991 superm1_
[05:58] <MUS4SHIII> new to IRC
[05:58] <ubotu> rhpot1991 superm1_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:58] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, so what are you using to edit the files?
[05:59] <MUS4SHIII> text editor
[05:59] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: did you ever work out that mythweb database access denied problem?
[05:59] <MUS4SHIII> gedit
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, no
[05:59] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, okay so then that wouldn't be the cause
[05:59] <tgm4883_laptop> haven't really looked into it that much
[05:59] <MUS4SHIII> what wouldn't be the cause? gedit?
[06:00] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, gedit won't munge up line endings
[06:00] <superm1_> that's what my worry was
[06:00] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, have you tried ircat?
[06:00] <superm1_> it will help you debug yoru file
[06:00] <MUS4SHIII> ircat? ok
[06:01] <KillerKiwi2005> I have a web cam that works on a standard gutsy PC, on my mythbuntu box /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are already in use.. the webcam does not seem to show up
[06:01] <KillerKiwi2005> any ideas?
[06:02] <superm1_> what app are you trying to use with it?
[06:02] <KillerKiwi2005> skype2..
[06:02] <KillerKiwi2005> works with the laptop fine.. plu and play
[06:03] <KillerKiwi2005> tried cheese as well... reports no webcam
[06:03] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, well so skype doesn't show devices above video0 and video1 then?
[06:03] <superm1_> does a video2 device get made?
[06:03] <KillerKiwi2005> no
[06:03] <superm1_> well do you get hotplug events in dmesg when it's plugged in?
[06:03] <superm1_> or what happens
[06:04] <KillerKiwi2005> yes.. usb event
[06:04] <superm1_> and the module gets loaded?
[06:04] <KillerKiwi2005> [1938185.201201] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[06:04] <superm1_> supported by what, uvcvideo?
[06:05] <KillerKiwi2005> hmmm not sure.... its a logitech
[06:05] <superm1_> most cameras are
[06:05] <superm1_> can you plug it into your laptop
[06:05] <superm1_> and see what module gets loaded?
[06:05] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah just a sec
[06:06] <KillerKiwi2005> dmesg output?
[06:07] <superm1_> well either that or lsmod to see what changes
[06:07] <superm1_> !pastebin though
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin though - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <superm1_> !pastebin
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:07] <superm1_> that is
[06:07] <KillerKiwi2005> its only 3 lines
[06:07] <KillerKiwi2005> [  881.740000] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[06:07] <KillerKiwi2005> [  881.932000] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[06:07] <KillerKiwi2005> [  882.060000] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[06:07] <superm1_> lsmod | grep video
[06:07] <superm1_> then
[06:08] <KillerKiwi2005> videodev               29312  2 gspca
[06:08] <KillerKiwi2005> v4l2_common            18432  1 videodev
[06:08] <KillerKiwi2005> v4l1_compat            15364  1 videodev
[06:08] <KillerKiwi2005> video                  18060  0
[06:08] <superm1_> so gspca probably?
[06:08] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah theres nothing else on here
[06:08] <superm1_> so go back to the mythbuntu box
[06:08] <superm1_> and see if that gets loaded
[06:10] <MUS4SHIII> Ok, I did the ircat and came up with this " in /home/mus4shiii/.lircrc:1 ignored .lircrc: bad file format, /home/mus4shiii/.lircrc:2
[06:10] <KillerKiwi2005> http://rafb.net/p/tLoxQN23.html
[06:10] <KillerKiwi2005> no... it doesnt
[06:10] <MUS4SHIII> when I let mythbuntu do the config ircat never finishes, but the mythbuntu config always works.
[06:11] <KillerKiwi2005> got ivtv,saa7134 only
[06:12]  * foxbuntu_laptop stabs M$ violently for product validation downloads
[06:12] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, are you running hardy on your lpatop?
[06:12] <KillerKiwi2005> no gutsy
[06:12] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, ircat isn't supposed to "finish"
[06:12] <MUS4SHIII> ah
[06:12] <superm1_> it's supposed to let you press buttons
[06:12] <superm1_> and see stuff happen
[06:12] <superm1_> so MUS4SHIII look at line 2 then
[06:12] <superm1_> and see what's up
[06:12] <superm1_> check for trailing spaces
[06:13] <superm1_> or tabs when there should be spaces
[06:13] <superm1_> etc
[06:13] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, hm.
[06:13] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, well as an experiment, try to stop myth
[06:13] <superm1_> and unload ivtv
[06:13] <superm1_> and friends
[06:13] <superm1_> then plug it back in
[06:13] <superm1_> and see what happens
[06:13] <KillerKiwi2005> ... clash maybe... should modprobe gspca work?
[06:13] <superm1_> well not necessarily
[06:14] <superm1_> not on devices that detect on hotplug usually
[06:14] <KillerKiwi2005> i get FATAL: Module gspca not found.
[06:15] <KillerKiwi2005> i can modprobe on the laptop....
[06:16] <KillerKiwi2005> missing package?
[06:16] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, okay well that's probably the cause..
[06:16] <superm1_> so go on the laptop
[06:16] <KillerKiwi2005> lol...
[06:16] <superm1_> and find where that module lives
[06:16] <superm1_> somewhere in /lib/modules/
[06:16] <superm1_> etc
[06:16] <superm1_> is the mythbuntu box running hardy?
[06:16] <KillerKiwi2005> no
[06:17] <superm1_> okay
[06:17] <superm1_> well make sure that you have the linux-ubuntu-modules package installed
[06:17] <KillerKiwi2005> no hardy yet.. im being strong and resisting to at least an rc
[06:17] <superm1_> that's usually where such things are
[06:17] <superm1_> that's where it is on hardy at least...
[06:17] <KillerKiwi2005> how do you do a search for files in packages...
[06:18] <superm1_> apt-file search file
[06:18] <superm1_> after you do apt-file update
[06:18] <superm1_> supermario@mlimonciello:/lib/modules/2.6.24-12-generic$ find ./ -name gspca*ko
[06:18] <superm1_> ./ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko
[06:18] <KillerKiwi2005> ok im trying that...
[06:18] <superm1_> that's where it is for me
[06:18] <KillerKiwi2005> linux-ubuntu-modules
[06:18] <KillerKiwi2005> wierd
[06:20] <KillerKiwi2005> thats installed....
[06:20] <KillerKiwi2005> there is an upgrade on it... ill try that
[06:27] <MUS4SHIII> ok, I think I found the problem. Apparently gedit was saving the files in DOS format. I opened the file with nano and added a #Note to force a save on exit. The save says I need to press menu+d to get rid of the DOS format. My menu key just keeps bringing up a context menu. Now this is just getting silly :)
[06:29] <superm1_> okay so it was my original suspicion then !
[06:29] <superm1_> i'm surprised gedit was doing that to you
[06:29] <KillerKiwi2005> stupid budget mythbuntu machine with only 2 usb ports....
[06:30] <MUS4SHIII> looks like your were right, you're the man. Can I change that in the gedit properties somewhere?
[06:30] <superm1_> MUS4SHIII, i'm not sure.  I stay away from gedit
[06:30] <superm1_> i use geany personally
[06:34] <MUS4SHIII> ok, i've got geany installed and up. is there somewhere that tells me the file format in geany?
[06:35] <MUS4SHIII> nvm, think i found it.
[06:35] <MUS4SHIII> way more complete editor than gedit
[06:35] <superm1_> oh yeah
[06:36] <superm1_> after you play with the settings a bit, you'll see a lot of really cool features in it
[06:36] <superm1_> and its actually more lightweight than gedit
[06:37] <MUS4SHIII> still a bit confused on ircat. I push buttons on the remote but nothing happens, even with the known good file.
[06:38] <KillerKiwi2005> i always do a cat /dev/lirc0 first
[06:38] <superm1_> well as long as it doesnt spit out errors when loading the file don't worry i say
[06:38] <KillerKiwi2005> make sure im getting raw input
[06:38] <superm1_> irw tests lircd.conf for errors, and ircat tests lircrc for errors, and /cat /dev/lirc0 tests the module for errors :)
[06:39] <KillerKiwi2005> mythbuntu should have a wizard for all those
[06:39] <superm1_> well we don't have much in terms of a debugging suite, but that is a good idea for intrepid
[06:39] <KillerKiwi2005> or just driver error/ lirc error/ lircd error detected
[06:40] <superm1_> something with shiny buttons to test all those possibilities
[06:40] <MUS4SHIII> sounds good. While I"m here, got any ideas about speeding up response time in X. I just setup three monitors today with 2 nVidia cards. 2 LCDs are on Twinview and one 32" CRT TV is running a separate X session. Since I did it, things just aren't quite as snappy.
[06:40] <superm1_> and a green bulb when it works and a red skull and cross bones when it doesnt
[06:40] <KillerKiwi2005> 1 window... press buttons.... then do some fancy code to elimate them 1 by 1
[06:41] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, sounds like you are volunteering to write said application? :)
[06:41] <KillerKiwi2005> lol... i did a bit of python to pipe in /dev/lirc0 so i can see if I've got raw input
[06:42] <KillerKiwi2005> gnome-lirc-properies look intresting too
[06:42] <superm1_> yeah but i'm not confident that's making it into hardy
[06:42] <superm1_> we'll see
[06:42] <superm1_> its going in the right direction though
[06:42] <superm1_> that's for sure
[06:42] <MUS4SHIII> OMFG it worked. I can't believe it was something so stupid as format. I've been messing with this for a couple of hours. New configs work great. Thank you very much.
[06:43] <MUS4SHIII> Geany rules
[06:43] <MUS4SHIII> bye all. best of luck
[06:43] <KillerKiwi2005> i upgraded no module stil....
[06:44] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, okay well so then might want to use apt-file on the gutsy box
[06:44] <superm1_> and find what package is providing the module
[06:45] <superm1_> once you do, come back over and install it
[06:46] <KillerKiwi2005> its at /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko
[06:47] <KillerKiwi2005> on the myth box
[06:47] <KillerKiwi2005> but modprobe still fails... will i need a restart?
[06:47] <superm1_> depmod -a
[06:48] <superm1_> as sudo depmod -a that is
[06:48] <KillerKiwi2005> laptop is generic kernel... mytbox is 386... make adif?
[06:48] <superm1_> wait the mythbox is running a 386 kernel?
[06:48] <superm1_> yes it does
[06:48] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[06:48] <superm1_> switch to the generic kernel
[06:49] <KillerKiwi2005> i just though of that....
[06:49] <superm1_> how did that happen I wonder though?
[06:49] <superm1_> you're not the first to report that issue...
[06:49] <KillerKiwi2005> ... it used to be an edgy box?
[06:49] <superm1_> well different circumstances then
[06:49] <superm1_> nvm
[06:49] <KillerKiwi2005> sudo modprobe gspcav
[06:49] <KillerKiwi2005> worked!!
[06:51] <KillerKiwi2005> no etra /dev/viedo devices though.....
[06:52] <KillerKiwi2005> ill switch to generic kernel
[06:53] <KillerKiwi2005> lets hope this dosnt do bad things to my setup....
[06:53] <superm1_> if anything it should do "good" things
[06:53] <KillerKiwi2005> will it become dfault in grub by default?
[06:54] <superm1_> i'm not sure if it will become "default"
[06:54] <superm1_> but once you remove the 386 kernel it will
[06:54] <KillerKiwi2005> ok
[06:54] <KillerKiwi2005> whats the differance these days between 386 and generic?
[06:54] <superm1_> sslashes, it looks like the new disk is done...
[06:55] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, optimization
[06:55] <superm1_> sslashes, and it appears to work for me
[06:55] <superm1_> sslashes, it doesnt bale out mounting ext3 anymore
[07:07] <KillerKiwi2005> ahh.. is nvida going to have a cow.....
[07:08] <superm1_> install linux-restricted-modules
[07:08] <superm1_> for generic too
[07:09] <KillerKiwi2005> .... this could be intresting ....
[07:11] <superm1_> y?
[07:13] <KillerKiwi2005> rebooting....
[07:15] <KillerKiwi2005> x fail DAM IT
[07:16] <KillerKiwi2005> i shouda left it alone....
[07:17] <superm1_> well why is x failing now?
[07:17] <superm1_> lrm should be available on both
[07:17] <KillerKiwi2005> ... wait it cam up after x failsafe...
[07:18] <KillerKiwi2005> an i have a /dev/video2 :)
[07:18] <KillerKiwi2005> cheers superm1_ you were great help
[07:18] <superm1_> np
[07:18] <KillerKiwi2005> lol cheese is capturing capture card
[07:19] <KillerKiwi2005> uh oh its /dev/video1
[07:19] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[07:19] <KillerKiwi2005> i can fix that
[07:20] <superm1_> in /etc/modules, you can explicitly list the order to have them loaded
[07:20] <superm1_> to make sure its always the same
[07:21] <KillerKiwi2005> the module order?
[07:22] <superm1_> yeah
[07:22] <superm1_> explicitly list them there
[07:29] <KillerKiwi2005> superm1_: how can i tell what the correct order is now....
[07:30] <superm1_> KillerKiwi2005, well so your ivtv
[07:30] <superm1_> it provides video0 and video1 right?
[07:31] <superm1_> that's how you want it to always be?
[07:31] <KillerKiwi2005> yes
[07:31] <superm1_> then put ivtv in /etc/modules
[07:31] <superm1_> and then the module for this camera right after that
[07:31] <superm1_> on the next line
[07:31] <KillerKiwi2005> ok
[07:31] <KillerKiwi2005> what about saa7134 ?
[07:32] <KillerKiwi2005> ill put that second
[07:33] <KillerKiwi2005> where are the mythbackend logs?
[07:34] <superm1_> /var/log/mythtv
[07:40] <KillerKiwi2005> got it....
[07:44] <KillerKiwi2005> 2008-03-17 20:43:39.911 Reschedule requested for id -1.
[07:44] <KillerKiwi2005> Unable to open lockfile!
[07:44] <KillerKiwi2005> Be sure that '/media/drived/video' exists and that both
[07:45] <KillerKiwi2005> hmmm
[07:45] <superm1_> permissions probably
[07:45] <superm1_> i've gotta get to bed though
[07:45] <superm1_> have a good $TIMEOFDAY :)
[07:45] <KillerKiwi2005> i did a chod o+rw /media/drived
[07:45] <KillerKiwi2005> chmod
[07:46] <superm1_> chmod 775 the directory
[07:46] <superm1_> and chown it to mythtv:mythtv
[07:46] <KillerKiwi2005> hmm its the files there readonly
[08:32] <MUS4SHIII> Hi everyone. I'm doing a MythTV install and having some trouble with my tuner cards. I'm getting the error "mythtv failed to open card" when I try to scan for channels in the backend setup. I also saw "no device tree for cardid". In the frontend it was saying that all the tuners were in use. Here is the pastebin of my ivtv grep if that helps. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59904/
[08:36] <MUS4SHIII> Wow, this is frustrating. I really don't want to go back to MCE 2005. I'm finally trying to go all Linux, but I need TV to work. Any help would be appreciated.
[08:39] <MUS4SHIII> Everyone go to be already?
[09:53] <KillerKiwi2005> is there a way to auto create udev rules to give my dvices meaningful names instead of /dev/video0 etc
[09:55] <KillerKiwi2005> not to be picky but the keep switching...
[10:37] <directhex|work> KillerKiwi2005, yes, there is
[10:37] <KillerKiwi2005> how? besides working it all out by hand?
[10:44] <directhex|work> are all your cards of the same type, i.e. they use the same kernel module?
[10:46] <directhex|work> if not, then simply put drivers into /etc/modules in the order you want them. if so, read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Device_Filenames_and_udev
[15:28] <weiser> Mythvideo, how does it work, I have seprated frontend and backend, but does it play the files centralzed from the backend or local at the frontend?
[15:28] <Jediah> Anybody have any tips for troubleshooting wireless on 8.04a4
[15:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> weiser: mythvideo files are read from the frontend in that instance
[15:29] <directhex|work> weiser, it plays files which are accessible on frontends, from a "central" location
[15:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> so store them there, or store them on the backend and share them out to the frontend
[15:30] <Jediah> weiser, i had to share the folder from my backend to get them all to work
[15:30] <directhex|work> i.e. if they're in /media/myvideos on the backend, and you add them to mythvideo with that location, all frontends must also use /media/myvideos
[15:32] <weiser> oki, I will set up a share for it, thanks for all the answer
[15:35] <[_Snarf_]> 2008-03-17 11:34:27.524 Unable to initialize plugin 'mythvideo'.
[15:35] <[_Snarf_]> How exactly do I initialize mythvideo?
[15:37] <directhex|work> got any actual error output?
[15:40] <TehSnarf> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5776/
[15:41] <directhex|work> what are the version number of your mythvideo and libmyth\* packages?
[15:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: have you by chance upgraded from 0.20.2 to 0.21 recently?
[15:42] <TehSnarf> not that I'm aware of
[15:42] <TehSnarf> I thought I started out at .21
[15:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> dpkg -l |grep myth
[15:42] <directhex|work> rhpot1991, dpkg -l myth\* | grep ^ii
[15:43] <TehSnarf> ii  libmyth-0.20                       0.20.2-0ubuntu10.1        Common library code for MythTV and add-on mo
[15:43] <TehSnarf> ii  libmyth-0.21-0                     0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1    Common library code for MythTV and add-on mo
[15:43] <TehSnarf> ii  mythvideo                          0.20.2-0ubuntu2           A generic video player frontend module for M
[15:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> directhex|work: whats grep ^ii do?
[15:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: sudo apt-get install mythvideo
[15:44] <directhex|work> TehSnarf, spot the problem
[15:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> it will ask to remove mythdvd, which is ok, its in mythvideo now
[15:44] <TehSnarf> makes sense
[15:46] <TehSnarf> guess that's what I get for using the mythbuntu-control-centre
[15:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: actually its apt being protective and not removing things unless you give it the ok
[15:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> generally a good thing
[15:48] <weiser> Just to get it rigth, Mythvideo stores the "links" to the files in the central DB? But the files must be accessible local front the frontend?
[15:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[15:50] <TehSnarf> fantastic
[17:01] <Koffa> anyone experiencing constant hangs while watching livetv with 0.21?
[17:07] <jduggan_> newp
[17:07] <Koffa> NVP: prebuffering pause (abt 10 times), WriteAudio: buffer underrun (once), NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. (until you exit the channel, picture and sound halts here)... tried googling those, all I get is some problems with a version from svn back in 2006 ...
[17:07] <Koffa> also some talk about nvidia-glx-legacy, but doesn't apply here
[17:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: is your cpu usage maxing out or something?
[17:39] <Koffa> nope
[17:39] <TehSnarf> Is nuvexport already built in to mythtranscode in .21?
[17:40] <Koffa> haven't looked at top/uptime at the time of timeouts, but it's totally responsive
[17:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: I don't believe so
[17:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: backend and frontend on the same box?
[17:40] <TehSnarf> alright, so I'm in the clear with setting up my own jobs then... I'm just making sure that I'm not being redudant
[17:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> and you are using the correct video drivers?
[17:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: it appears to be in apt in hardy
[17:42] <TehSnarf> yeah, I installed it with apt in 7.10, I just wasn't sure it was something built in to myth already... like I didn't want myth to do it, then me to come in on top of that and manually do it
[17:42] <Koffa> rhpot1991_laptop: yes... gutsy with mythtv-stuff from backports
[17:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: you are using nvidia or fglrx drivers though, and not a generic set?
[17:50] <Koffa> 'Installation of the fglrx-kernel-src source failed.' when I tried module-assistant... some naming-error somewhere
[17:51] <Koffa> since it seems to be in -source, not -src :)
[17:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> restricted manager
[17:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> restricted driver manager
[17:54] <Koffa> shows NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) as 'In use'
[17:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> why are you trying to install fglrx on your nvidia card then?
[17:55] <javatexan> hey...ubuntu wont install at 800x600 either, is that a bug, or a setting that I am missing.  The dialogs for installation go off the screen and I can't get to them.
[17:55] <Koffa> also (unrelated?) channel change takes some 3-4 seconds since the upgrade... used to be 1-2
[17:57] <Koffa> rhpot1991_laptop: I was thinking about testing it with another card too since some forum posts suggested it might be nvidia-specific problem...
[17:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> ah ok
[17:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> might want to check your xorg.conf and make sure that its using the nvidia drivers and you didn't throw ati stuff in there in the process of that
[18:01] <Koffa> it says nvidia... glxinfo says direct rendering: yes and all seems peachy except for mythtv :)
[18:07] <Koffa> the commercials have always lost the last second or so (sound is lost, image flickers once or twice), but it has never hanged before 0.21
[18:49] <TehSnarf> Anyone have a link or something that I can read on how to convert from .21 to .22 svn?
[18:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> .22 will be in the weelky trunk builds for hardy at some point
[18:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> why do you want to do that though?
[19:16] <tgm4883_laptop> TehSnarf, do you run 8.10?
[19:38] <iulius> Does anyone know whether mythbuntu runs the mythfilldatabase periodically by default? I didn't see it in the cron* directories.
[19:38] <iulius> The installation is a frontend and backend
[19:48] <Koffa> wonder what's the difference between 0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1 and 0.21.0-0ubuntu3 :)
[19:49] <Koffa> should I go to hardy already...
[19:49] <Koffa> iulius: I didn't find it anywhere, added it myself
[19:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> !pastebin
[19:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59957/
[19:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> it runs it daily, but I can't find where for the life of me
[19:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> mythfilldatabase that is
[19:51] <Koffa> rhpot1991_laptop: thx
[19:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: np
[19:53] <Koffa> dunno if that helps though :)
[19:53] <iulius> Cool, thanks
[19:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: depends on what you are looking to do with the system I guess
[19:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> for instance weekly fixes build will be hardy only
[19:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> the same with the 0.22 trunk whenever that happens
[19:55] <Koffa> well I'm looking to get livetv working again (:
[19:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> have you searched the forums and mythtv users mailing list?
[19:58] <TehSnarf> For some reason my covers for videos in mythweb aren't showing up... the link is correct, anywhere else I should check?
[19:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> check the perms on the directory
[19:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> are they actually being created and so on
[19:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think your frontend user runs that script, not mythtv
[19:59] <TehSnarf> hrmm
[20:00] <TehSnarf> it's pointed to /media/Storage/videos/covers, which is an NTFS drive
[20:00] <Koffa> rhpot1991_laptop: only found some old postings from '06 and newer ones regarding legacy nvidia-drivers
[20:04] <TehSnarf> should it be video_cover or video_covers?
[20:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: go check in the setup menu, you can define it there
[20:06] <TehSnarf> groovy, thansk
[20:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> to check that it works go into that dir with the user who runs your frontend and try to make a file
[20:12] <Koffa> dpkg-reconfigure killed backend while recording <3
[20:12] <Koffa> *nuke*
[20:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> reconfiguring what?
[20:14] <Koffa> all myth stuff, one forum posting suggested even desperate measures like that :)
[20:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> well, nothing real bad can come from that, but of course it is going to reconfigure your backend
[20:18] <Koffa> not real bad?-D
[20:20] <TehSnarf> Strange...
[20:20] <TehSnarf> wonder why it's not taking...
[20:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> might lose some settings and all, what you are doing is reconfiguring them from scratch
[20:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think your mysql stuff remains
[20:21] <Koffa> well killing the backend without asking was quite bda
[20:21] <Koffa> bad
[20:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: did you try making a file by hand, and double check that the directories match?
[20:21] <TehSnarf> yep
[20:21] <TehSnarf> even sudo -u mythtv touch /media/Storage/videos/covers/test
[20:21] <TehSnarf> worked fine
[20:21] <rhpot1991_laptop> Koffa: not really, reconfiguring isn't exactly an every day task
[20:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: check /var/log/mythtv/mythtvfrontend.log
[20:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> mine was throwing errors in there when it wasn't working
[20:27] <KillerKiwi2005> superm1: thats for the help yesterday
[20:34] <TehSnarf> hmm
[20:34] <TehSnarf> looks like it's a mythweb issue
[20:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: check the symlink for mythweb, make sure it points to your directory
[20:35] <rhpot1991_laptop>  /var/www/mythweb/data/covers IIRC
[20:39] <TehSnarf> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2008-03-17 16:36 video -> /var/lib/mythtv/videos/
[20:39] <TehSnarf> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2008-03-17 16:37 video_covers -> /media/Storage/videos/covers/
[20:41] <TehSnarf> I think it just needs a hug
[20:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> is that working?
[20:42] <TehSnarf> nope, mythweb still popping up with "missing cover"
[20:42] <TehSnarf> I'm not too worried about it right now, though
[20:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: try to cd with the symlink and see if it works
[20:44] <TehSnarf> yep
[20:45] <TehSnarf> There's probably something I'm missing that's really obvious
[20:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> I can think of a few shots in the dark
[20:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> clear out your browser cache, restart apache, verify the files are readable by mythweb
[20:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think wwwdata will try to access them
[20:46] <TehSnarf> yeah, www-data
[20:47] <TehSnarf> probably something to do with mythvideo scripts somewhere not firing like they should
[20:47] <TehSnarf> because if I put in the IMDB info and hit the IMDB to grab everything automagically, it doesn't seem to do anything
[20:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> are you grabbing them via mythweb?
[20:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> or with your frontend?
[20:48] <TehSnarf> attempting mythweb
[20:48] <TehSnarf> frontend doesn't seem too pleased either
[20:48] <Nikas> Yo! What's wrong when "Remote" in MythWeb tells me "XXXXX is not responding."?
[20:56] <TehSnarf> weird... frontend won't allow me to put in the IMDB#
[20:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> iulius: I might be wrong about that mythfilldatabase, you might need to activate it in your setup menu, been a while since I did a new install :)
[21:01] <iulius> Thanks, I'll take a look
[21:05] <jepeltw> good afternoon all, I just apt-get dist-upgraded MythBuntu and got updated to 0.21, but the backend now refuses to start, pausing for a bit then saying "Illegal instruction (core dumped)"
[21:43] <Sartschent> hi
[21:44] <Sartschent> my mythbuntu crashes when I try to use Vesa drivers. :(
[21:46] <Sartschent> mythbuntu ver 7.10 and gpu is a old ati rage 128
[21:49] <asmythe> will mythweb stream my videos to a remote location?
[21:50] <rhpot1991> recordings yes, videos no
[21:51] <asmythe> recordings "what I record off television"
[21:56] <asmythe> transcode failed with status:247
[22:22] <pdragon> my LiveTV just stopped working. was working fine yesterday and haven't done anything different. getting this in the frontend log
[22:23] <pdragon> http://pastebin.com/dd6a67c3
[22:24] <pdragon> gives a different missing file name every time i try. any ideas?
[22:33] <foxbuntu> pdragon, have you tried restarting the BE?
[22:38] <pdragon> restarting now
[22:41] <pdragon> nope. same thing
[22:42] <directhex> is this a remote frontend?
[22:42] <pdragon> no, front and back on same system
[22:42] <pdragon> haven't run any remote frontends for quite a while
[22:42] <pdragon> not since i've upgraded to .21
[22:42] <directhex> anything shown in the backend log when you switch to livetv?
[22:44] <Nikas> check the permissions for you recordings-folder
[22:44] <pdragon> http://pastebin.com/d700336e3
[22:45] <pdragon> i turned off the glx module in xorg.conf last week to try and fix another LiveTV problem I'd been having. Hasn't been working perfectly, but it was working
[22:45] <pdragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725428
[22:45] <directhex> pdragon, so ivtv isn't working
[22:45] <pdragon> posted that but got no responses
[22:46] <directhex> which would explain the lack of recording files to watch
[22:51] <pdragon> any idea why
[22:53] <lime4x4> any ideas why  avi file will play perfect on my pc running hardy but when transfered to my mthtv box the audio is off?
[22:57] <foxbuntu> lime4x4, could be a number of issues, the player, the file endocing, the bit rate of the encoding, the deinterlacer module you are using if any, the video display method (OpenGL, XvMC)...
[23:01] <pdragon> ok. rebooting fixed it. this is the second time since upgrading that I've had to reboot because LiveTV keeps causing failures
[23:01] <lime4x4> i tried totem,vlc,myplayer and xine on hardy and they all play the file just fine. Anyone know what the default player in mythtv is for avi?
[23:02] <pdragon> mplayer i believe
[23:03] <pdragon> Utilities Setup -> Setup -> Media Settings -> Videos Settings -> Player Settings
[23:03] <pdragon> There's also a File Types section where you can give a specific command. Default for AVI is your default mediaplayer defined in Player Settings
[23:04] <lime4x4> ok thanks i'll have to look into that some more then
[23:04] <pdragon> try just playing the file from the command line with mplayer and see what output it gives
[23:05] <lime4x4> ok
[23:05] <pdragon> if you have a windows machine, there's a program called GSpot I like to use. Tells all video/audio codecs that a file uses
[23:05] <lime4x4> no windows here...lol
[23:07] <lime4x4> i'm sure thou there is a linux app out there
[23:08] <pdragon> yeah, mplayer may even be able to do it
[23:08] <pdragon> i just haven't looked into it much since i found GSpot and have a windows machine for my gamer to use it on :)
[23:15] <pdragon> *sigh* was hoping i wouldn't have to reload my machine when 8.04 came out. really looking that way now, though
[23:15] <pdragon> LiveTV still isn't working right when things start and stop recording in the background
[23:40] <Alowishus> I have a Feisty system running 0.20.2 from the official updates... are things going to go well if I just wholesale dist-upgrade to Gutsy and let it pull in 0.21 in the process?
[23:40] <Alowishus> this is a single machine, backend + frontend
[23:45] <pdragon> no telling really. i did an upgrade to .21 in gutsy and having livetv issues now
[23:45] <Alowishus> ok so there may just be latent 0.21 issues anyhow then
[23:49] <Alowishus> I'm just trying to figure out how well supported Feisty -> Gutsy is, or whether it'd be better to just backup MySQL and my recordings and install from a fresh Mythbuntu CD
[23:49] <directhex> pdragon, ivtv dying should not be related to the 0.21 change - it's a kernel issue
[23:49] <directhex> Alowishus, feisty -> gutsy ought to work. usual recommendations apply - take backups if you care, etc
[23:50] <Alowishus> directhex: hehe ok... well I'll take the backups and try the dist-upgrade... if it all goes to crap, then I can still do the fresh install :)