[00:00] well dont change it in mcc - [00:00] that will change the driver too [00:00] but there is only one conf file to include [00:00] ya [00:00] for mceusb to be a possible rmoet [00:00] thats what I did [00:00] let me reboot and make sure its not loading the old by accident even though I reloaded and restarted lirc [00:10] superm1_: I know what lircd command is run, how do I run that not as a daemon? [00:10] lircd --help [00:10] i dont know off hand [00:11] ok, it goes ready, and nothing else [00:12] bad lirc hardware config? [00:12] well that's normal [00:12] you know [00:12] you can always irrecord a remote [00:12] and call it a day [00:58] I am having trouble downloading 8.04alpha4 is anyone else having this trouble? [01:01] jed, what is the trouble [01:02] When i click on the link to download the I386 iso or the md5sum it goes to a blank page without any link to a file or any download starting [01:03] the link goes to this page: http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso [01:03] where do you live? [01:04] also, try refreshing that page? [01:04] and what browser do you use [01:07] jed, still there? [01:08] yeah sorry about that i had some wireless trouble but i am back now [01:10] linnix = jed? [01:11] where do you live? what browser do you use? and have you tried refreshing the page? [01:11] yes sorry mirc closed on me but didn't kill the jed session so linnix is my alt name [01:12] ok [01:12] those above questions are for you [01:12] United states - Colorado, i was using firefox (i will try ie and safri in a second) and i did try a refresh [01:12] hmm, interesting [01:13] do you have javascript enabled? [01:13] yeah i sure do [01:14] I see a javascrip error with IE let me copy it down for you, just a moment [01:15] Line 7, char: 1, Error: Object Expected, Code: 0 URL http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso [01:17] error in firefox is: urchinTracker is not defined http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-alternate-i386.iso [01:17] I am not sure if this helps or not [01:17] I will pass that along to the guy who wrote the script [01:18] you are looking for the alt i386 iso? [01:20] linnix, might I be able to help you with this [01:20] http://mirror.foxmediasystems.com/mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-desktop-i386.iso [01:21] yes i am but i tried all of the links and none of them worked (8.04a i386 desktop/alt or amd desktop/alt nor did the md5 sums) [01:21] thanks [01:21] afaik, there is a problem with the alt disks, and they need to be pulled [01:40] tgm4883, yeah they do need to be pulled. i dont know why they are broke yet [01:40] but they are [01:40] k [01:43] pulled [01:48] is there a direct link that i can use? [01:48] linnix, what version of FF are you running? [01:48] and are you using adblock plus? [01:48] or noscript [01:48] or anything similar? [01:51] linnix, i gave you a direct link [01:52] FF 2.0.0.1 [01:53] and no popup blocker were used [01:53] where is the direct link? [01:54] well that's rather odd that you were getting that [01:54] my suspicion would be that higher up something is filtering our click tracking [01:54] http://mirror.foxmediasystems.com/mythbuntu-8.04-alpha4-desktop-i386.iso [01:54] thats the URL tgm4883 gave you [01:55] what is the best card for mythtv [01:57] asmythe, i have had a lot of luck with my hauppauge pvr350 [02:01] asmythe: for HD, I like my DViCo Fusion, and the HDHomeRun (external) [02:15] I want to add another tuner to my mythtv box same quality as my tv wonder pro [02:24] asmythe, the hauppauge pvr series cards are the way to go then i say [02:24] pvr 150,250,350, 500 [03:38] thanks I will look for 1 of those [03:45] i'm so dumbfounded: i cannot - regardless of what i do - install mythbuntu 8.04 a4. the desktop version won't let me select any items on the bootmenu - it doesn't respond to any keyboard input - i tried the ubuntu 8.04 a6 desktop cd, and that worked fined - additionally, the ubuntu alternative cd doesn't exhibit this issue - any ideas? [03:46] by "ubuntu alternative" cd, i mean both the ubuntu and mythbuntu alternative cds [03:46] so this issue is *only* with the mythbuntu desktop cd [03:47] sslashes, usb keyboard? [03:49] superm1_: usb, ps2, and usb using a usb to ps2 converted =) [03:49] hm interesting [03:50] i cannot think of any reason why that would occur... [03:51] if [$user = "sslashes" ]; then act_bad(); else act_normal() fi [03:51] :) [03:51] hehe [03:56] sslashes, fwiw, i found the bug on the alt disks [03:56] it should be resolved with tonight's build [03:57] as long as i got these changes in in time [03:57] which i think i di [03:57] did [03:57] i'll verify once the build finishes (at ~1:30 cst) [03:58] superm1_: does a user created with mythbuntu automagically get added to the mythtv group? [03:58] rhpot1991, only in the desktop installer [03:58] not the alternate [03:58] ok good, lets see if thats the problem [03:58] superm1_: great, i'm bitting at the bit to get this alpha installed =) [03:58] rhpot1991, how'd you install? [03:58] latest alpha desktop cd [03:59] !pastebin [03:59] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [04:00] superm1_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59894/ [04:00] made mythtv own that even [04:00] drwxr-xr-x are the perms on it, should work [04:00] how are you starting mythbackend? [04:01] init.d [04:01] okay [04:01] can you do ls -alh on / then? [04:01] frontend is run as john, which doesn't seem to have perms to write to that [04:01] let me just see what it says on it [04:01] and then ls -alh on /mythtv too [04:02] see now if you stuck with the default directories odds are this wouldn'ta happened.... ;) [04:02] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59896/ [04:02] heh [04:02] I like my /mythtv scheme [04:02] actually I'll go check against those [04:03] hm well those look sane [04:03] different perms [04:03] probably rwxrwxr-x [04:03] drwxrwsr-x [04:03] know what that is in digits off the top of your head? [04:04] i'm not sure what the sticky bit does on it? [04:04] it shouldn't matter [04:04] superm1_: where are the daily builds available? [04:05] sslashes, cdimages.ubuntu.com [04:05] only alternates are built daily [04:05] the desktop cds are much more preferable to use though, because they do a lot of magic during install that cant be done on the alternate yet [04:06] rhpot1991, but i mean if you ignore sticky bit, it should just be 775 should it not? [04:06] I got the sticky bit on, still no go [04:07] my user can do things in there now [04:07] your user doesnt need to do things in there [04:07] its only the 'mythtv' user [04:07] you can try this [04:07] sudo su mythtv [04:07] and become the user [04:07] and see what he can and can't do [04:07] he can touch files [04:08] is that log current then? [04:08] no, but its still doing the same, so its current enough [04:08] let me verify my fstab isn't funky [04:09] and this kids, is why you don't touch working hardware... [04:12] i do it all the time [04:12] i'm just careful [04:12] well the problem is I went all new hardware, and I'm used to configuring the old stuff [04:18] so are you amd64 this time installed? [04:18] yep [04:18] I have an idea of what it might be, checking now [04:19] something silly i hope [04:19] ah darn, looks like nx doesn't work here [04:19] it is silly [04:19] complained about something gnome related [04:19] thats a shame [04:19] that's what is was? [04:20] no, thats nx not working [04:21] oh [04:21] so what was it then?' [04:22] I don't know if I should tell you [04:22] I have to have some pride after all :) [04:22] oh come on [04:23] what was it [04:23] I did /mythtv/drive1/ in my file system, and /mythtv/disk1/ in the mythtv-setup [04:23] haha [04:23] yeah so you did [04:23] btw this display works good on here [04:23] lcdproc [04:24] easy to make work? [04:24] installed lcdproc and went to the config and told it to use the imon driver [04:24] then turned it on in mythtv [04:24] want to add a page to mcc to prettify that? [04:24] or is it worth it? [04:24] not sure its that hard to do that it requires something on MCC [04:25] if I ever get lirc working I was planning on doing a wiki page on the fusion [04:25] easy enough to just toss it in there [04:25] I have to be doing something stupid, cause I don't seem to see any talk about lirc problems and I'm sure there are lots of people using the fusion [04:27] thats semi annoying, power button on this remote turns my xbox on [04:27] haha [04:27] that's really annoying [04:27] electrical tape to the rescue [04:27] again [04:28] seriously [04:28] do you use it for anything else? [04:28] i mean that you need the ir [04:28] the 360? [04:28] the mceusb remote + 360 [04:29] mceremote is just for the mythbox for now [04:29] 360 is just for games [04:29] yeah then electrical tape on the 360 [04:29] if irrecord can see button presses then the remote should be compatable with the receiver right? [04:30] you can disable the remote on the 360 [04:31] tgm4883_laptop: I'll just do that then [04:31] although for some reason mine was still turning on for some reason [04:31] so try disabling it first [04:31] and if that doesn't work, then get some white tape [04:31] anyone know a command line cpu temp sensor? [04:32] sensors [04:32] you may need to run sensors-detect first though [04:32] and hit yes to everything, cept at the end you need to type yes [04:34] lmsensors [04:34] Core1 Temp: +24.0Â°C [04:34] suppose thats good enogh [04:35] I had a hard time getting the fan on, so I am kinda worried about the heat [04:35] though one core is hotter than the other [04:35] rhpot1991, getting the fan on? [04:35] oh you mean mounted [04:35] heatsink [04:35] not fan, just the whole sink [04:35] was contemplating redoing it, but I was tired so I didn't [04:36] when i mounted mine on my C2D, i thought it was broke cause when i turned the system on it didn't move [04:36] good enough, that's pretty good [04:36] my buddy did that, and it apparently has some strange plug on the bottom [04:36] that he missed [04:36] supermario's CPU temp is 35.5 C [04:36] spam warning [04:36] Core0 Temp: +17.0Â°C [04:36] Core0 Temp: +6.0Â°C [04:36] Core1 Temp: +24.0Â°C [04:36] Core1 Temp: +9.0Â°C [04:37] out but my core temp is 12 C [04:37] the CPU fan temp is 35 [04:37] hmmm, mine is only saying core temps [04:37] yeah you need to run sensors-detecft [04:37] to get the other sensors added [04:37] I did [04:37] and at the end it lists some modules [04:37] modprobe those [04:38] mine actually only spins up when it needs cooled [04:39] Sys Temp: +28.0Â°C CPU Temp: +25.0Â°C [04:39] that's how my old P4 was too [04:39] superm1_: you should look at this fan for your microatx [04:39] not my pentium d though :( [04:39] rhpot1991, i got a thermaltake 15 dollar deally [04:39] it works fine [04:40] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185046&Tpk=Scythe%2bNinja%2bmini [04:40] i'm using my stock heatsink and it doesn't get to hot [04:40] well hold on to that for when you upgrade [04:40] god that looks excessive [04:40] * rhpot1991 had a heck of a time finding a fan for the antec fusion [04:40] wouldn't fit in my microatx i fear [04:41] very little room by the power supply and CPU [04:41] they are like neck to neck [04:41] ah [04:41] need a new case then too :) [04:41] no not at all [04:41] may I suggest an antec fusion [04:41] let me go get camera and show [04:41] brb [04:41] then you can fix lirc and tell me how [04:42] bah, i think i screwed up encoding this file [04:43] tgm4883: what are you encoding for? [04:43] is that no password bug still in MCC apparently? [04:44] rhpot1991, was thinking about encoding all my dvd rips into xvid or h264 [04:44] so i can play them back on my 360 [04:44] but i'm getting some horizontal tearing [04:44] don't you do iso? [04:44] or didn't you [04:44] rhpot1991, the 360 doesn't play iso [04:45] ya I know [04:45] really need it to play them?> [04:46] rhpot1991, didn't you see the wiki about the VFD and knob on the Fusion? [04:46] If i'm going to use the 360 as a frontend, then yess [04:46] you should transcode on the fly, that would be slick [04:46] http://picasaweb.google.com/superm1/MythTVFrontend/photo#5178567331313266578 [04:46] foxbuntu: the one on wiki.mythtv? [04:46] superm1_: ouch, that would not fit at all [04:46] rhpot1991, yea [04:47] eh, transcoding on the fly may be a waste of some good processing power [04:47] tgm4883: how so [04:47] you planning on watching them that many times each? [04:47] i could put that processor to better uses [04:48] rhpot1991, yeah that case is really really tight, but it makes it look nice at least [04:48] foxbuntu: that only tells you how to do the wheel though, I am trying to just get the remote working right now [04:49] oh didn't know it had a remote [04:49] ya it has a built in IR sensor [04:50] imon of some sort, that is supposed to be compatable with mce remotes [04:50] what desktop manager does mythbuntu use by default? [04:50] imon or mce? [04:50] xfce4 [04:50] its an imon sensor according to what I have read [04:51] I tried the mce ones hoping, no go, imon ones aren't being very helpful either [04:54] woah the new gphoto library is rather nice [04:54] my camera operates in PTP mode normally [04:54] but this obfuscates that [04:54] and makes it look like its acting in USB mode [04:55] rhpot1991, refresh that web album [04:55] you can see the front view of it [04:56] rhpot1991, you tried an hal-device query to find the ir receiver and find out whaqt it shows up as? [04:56] nice [04:56] foxbuntu: I looked at it via lsusb [04:57] rhpot1991, hal-device provides more details [04:57] SoundGraph Inc. iMON PAD Remote Controller [05:01] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59900/ [05:01] I wonder if its bad that the first has lirc_imon as the driver and the 2nd has usb [05:02] rhpot1991, I have an idea [05:02] lets hear it [05:04] sudo cp /usr/share/lirc/remotes/imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad /etc/lirc/lircd.conf [05:04] sudo mythbuntu-lircrc-generator [05:05] is there anything I should import from my old db other than my recording schedule if I am not bringing any recordings with me? [05:05] then restart lirc and mythfrontend [05:05] foxbuntu_laptop: give me a second [05:05] k [05:05] gonna need to disable the mce usb [05:05] k [05:06] you want me to do that with the imon enabled right? [05:06] rhpot1991, what do you mean enabled? [05:06] selected via MCC [05:06] ignore MCC [05:06] close it [05:06] actually imon is already loaded [05:07] oh also... [05:07] sudo depmod imon_pad [05:08] er [05:08] modprobe i mean [05:08] s/imon_pad/lirc_imon [05:09] lol [05:09] yea [05:09] * foxbuntu_laptop is getting tired [05:09] irw isn't gonna like this, its a mce remote not the imon pad :( [05:10] well you might need to do some crazy stuff to make it all work [05:10] ya [05:10] did you enable the lirc_imon in the hardware.conf [05:10] I can cat /dev/lirc0 and see crap [05:10] it was before, now its mce (thats what I was talking about disabling before) [05:11] superm1_: the desktop cd bootmenu acts normally on my setup with mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2, alpha 3 exhibits the same problem as the latest alpha (an unresponsive bootmenu) [05:12] sslashes, that's really bzr [05:15] heh, yeah - idk ho to explain it [05:16] *how [05:16] rhpot1991, so if you have the lirc_imon enabled in the hardware.conf and load it with depmod/modprobe and then use the MCE lircd.conf [05:17] rhpot1991, don't try to do it with MCC [05:17] foxbuntu_laptop: I tried that with no luck [05:17] coulda messed something up though [05:18] let me try it agian [05:28] foxbuntu_laptop: did that, I don't see a thing with irw then [05:28] rhpot1991, right...but irw doesn't do anything for my MCE either [05:28] does it matter that hardware.conf still has this REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad" [05:28] try it on the frontend [05:28] ah [05:28] whats the easiest way to restart the frontend, I'm use to killing gdm on my old box [05:28] rhpot1991, yes it matters [05:29] rhpot1991, clear that out so it uses the default config [05:29] which if you copied the MCE file over it should be your MCE remote [05:30] ya I did that then reran the lircgenerator [05:30] k [05:30] so make REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad" to REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="" [05:30] yep [05:30] and you restarted lirc after that? [05:31] yep, just rebooted the box actually [05:31] k [05:31] cause I don't have a keyboard hooked up to restart the frontend [05:31] oh [05:31] well ssh [05:31] wasn't sure how to spawn it there [05:31] you using vnc? [05:31] like I said, I used to restart gdm, but I don't have that now [05:31] ssh [05:31] and nx [05:31] oh [05:32] though nx with xfce4 sucks [05:32] so I might have to go back to vnc [05:32] no go on the frontend [05:32] rhpot1991, gdm should still be there [05:32] hm anyone ever notice that in xfce none of the screensavers show up in the list? [05:32] I did get stuff in irw with this remote and the dongle that belongs with it [05:32] this is rather odd [05:32] xfce is just over the top of gdm [05:33] but they do when x forwarding... [05:33] wtf? [05:36] rhpot1991, any remote functionality? [05:37] none in mythtv [05:37] bastard still turns my xbox on though :P [05:37] lol [05:37] yeah that drove me nutz while I had my 360 [05:38] interesting... it's the XDG_CONFIG_DIRS env variable making it not work right [05:43] i think i know how to fix it [05:43] stupid xdg stuff [05:43] wonder why no one ever complained about it? [05:43] brb [05:43] does no one use screensavers these days? [05:43] not I [05:43] also I prefer gnome [05:43] so I will complain after I use this for a while [05:44] superm1_, I use screen blanking [05:44] :) [05:45] lazy [05:45] whats up with this database access denied mythweb stuff when you setup a username now? [05:45] also the installer username and password didn't work on my install, left it wide open [05:48] rhpot1991, talk to laga [05:48] make sure he gets that stuff resolved [05:48] on both ends [05:48] see why don't people report these things :) [05:48] I saw a report somewhere [05:48] though I could be making it up [05:49] rhpot1991, btw i got your firewire tester included in this next upcoming build [05:49] I saw that [05:50] any bright ideas on the port/node problem? [05:50] for mythprime? [05:50] ya [05:50] yeah - it just needs some short source changes to let those be arguments [05:50] i didnt go through and "do" that yet, but it doesnt look like it should be very involved === Wckt2 is now known as WcktKlwn [05:51] hmmmm, thats not good [05:52] why? [05:52] no not that, mythweb still opened up [05:54] hi all [05:55] okay fixed that screensaver bug [05:55] still can't believe no one caught that [05:55] screensavers are a thing of the past [05:55] I'm having some lirc trouble, can anyone help? [05:56] depends on the troubles [05:56] ask away [05:56] * foxbuntu_laptop wants to stab lirc tonight [05:56] * rhpot1991 does as well [05:56] * tgm4883_laptop stabs rhpot1991 instead [05:56] I have it up and running, irw spits out codes, it works in mythtv, but I can't seem to add buttons to the lircrc. as soon as I add even one button, the config stops working [05:56] * superm1_ prohibits all stabbing [05:56]