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BCMMI'm installing ubuntu server and went with default disk configuration. why are there three partition on the disk?00:20
timboysoren, i've got tls running on postfix but ssl isn't. aren't they pretty much the same thing? do you recommend ssl over tls?00:21
michalskihow do you run an OpenPGP keyserver....00:23
BCMMoops misunderstood fdisk00:25
timboyyeah it just looks like it at first00:26
ScottK2timboy: TLS is a newever version of SSL.00:34
timboyScottK, thx00:35
BCMMwhat should i do about "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"00:40
BCMMthe live cd can read it00:40
soneilany docs on tracking down a kernel panic?   I get nothing logged, and no cores, so all I've got to work with is a photo of the terminal noise00:40
BCMMi mean the install cd00:40
BCMMwere you in X or at a terminal?00:41
BCMMit you're at a terminal it should give you some info which could even tell you which driver did it00:41
soneilterminal .. linux-xen in hardy is messy enough that I can't get as far as raising X00:42
soneil(for me, atleast)00:42
BCMMhmmm, normally when you are a terminal and it panics, you get a page of cryptic information...00:42
soneilyeah, I have a photo of that page.  just nothing that makes good google-fodder00:43
soneilit doesn't help that I'm on a mac laptop, so I can't pause, scroll, etc00:44
BCMMah... nothing that would suggest which module caused it?00:46
BCMMcan't really help then...00:46
BCMMi've had panics which made it very clear that my wireless driver did it00:46
soneilnot a great source of debug, but what I did get is http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/2336356800_7013535f96.jpg?v=000:48
soneilwhich all looks like page/memory faults to me, but every test I've tried works out okay00:48
soneilright now, all I'm really looking for is a way to create better logs / dumps / cores of the situation.  I know working from a screengrab isn't exactly optimal00:50
soneilscrolling back .. which partitions were created?   I'm used to default creating root + swap00:53
BCMMoh i was wrong about my partitions00:57
BCMMhowever. now it won't boot00:57
BCMMi can use hte rescue feature of hte live cd to access the drive fine00:57
BCMMbut grub won't mount root00:57
BCMMoh nm it had them in the wrong order00:59
infinityAnyone have a recommendation for the most simple "just works" IMAP daemon that can read maildir?01:06
sommerinfinity: dovecot works great01:07
sommersome minor configuration required though01:07
michalskiso does anyone know how to run your own openpgp keyserver?01:07
timboywhat should I choose for authentication methods and why? i'm using tls and under authentication methods have plain-text selected should I change that?01:17
dthackermichalski: I have not done that, however this link looks promising.  You will most likely need to do a bit of research. www.jcacademy.nl/spottedByTHTI/_down/sthuy_article_pgpkeyserver.PDF -01:32
michalskithank you01:33
michalskiyay....its long01:36
dthackerThis is a quick attempt to get mrtg going.  I'm pasting the error message and two config files.  This is a gutsy install. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752/01:44
dthackerhmmm. it seems to be working.  just needed data I guess.01:48
BCMMi did sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, and it asked me for the CD02:18
BCMMhowever, i'm not at the machine02:18
BCMMis there a way to make it use the network for future package installation?02:18
ScottK2BCMM: Comment the CD out of the /etc/apt/sources.list02:19
BCMMScottK, thanks02:19
BCMMthat worked thanks02:20
RoAkSoAxhello, does anyone knows if there are any dependencies error in Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn mysql package?02:40
ScottK2RoAkSoAx: Feisty has been out long enought that if there were, there are probably bug reports.02:45
ScottK2If there aren't it's reasonably safe to assume there aren't02:45
RoAkSoAxScottK2: i see, im trying to install mysql and i get this error, it is on a VPS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59889/02:45
ScottK2That's not a dependency error, that's the postinst failing.02:49
ScottK2It's difficult to tell why.02:49
RoAkSoAxok thanks, i had to download the package manually for i386, because the package it downloaded was for all archs.03:00
ScottK2RoAkSoAx: What makes you think all doesn't include i38603:04
RoAkSoAxScottK2: i know all works for all archs but that package shows me the error during installation while the package for i386 arch does not.03:05
ScottK2What did the package management system provide you and what did you decide you should install instead?03:05
RoAkSoAxit provided me this one: mysql-server_5.0.38-0ubuntu1.2_all.deb03:05
RoAkSoAxi download this one: mysql-server-5.0_5.0.38-0ubuntu1.2_i386.deb03:06
ScottK2All the 'all' package does is depend on the latest arch specific package.  It shouldn't have made a difference.03:08
ScottK2If you've got the arch specific one installed now, then you've got what you need.03:09
RoAkSoAxScottK: well i used apt-get to install it and that is what happened, so i downloaded the other package manually and it installs03:09
ScottK2RoAkSoAx: OK.  That's odd.  All's well that ends well I guess.03:13
RoAkSoAxScottK2: i guess so, but well i've tried changing archive and the same thing03:17
RoAkSoAxseems to be aproblem with the pkg03:19
ScottK2RoAkSoAx: Would you please file a bug on that then.03:58
nxvlScottK2: the problem was his mysql.conf file04:00
nxvlScottK2: already fixed04:00
nxvlScottK2: postinst was faling on starting the service due a broken mysql.con04:02
nxvlconf*04:02
RoAkSoAxnxvl: know i have a similar problem with proftpd :S04:02
RoAkSoAxnxvl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59897/04:03
ScottK2nxvl: Thanks.04:04
nxvlScottK2: btw, now that there is no ubuntuwire, is there any other app showing the FTBFS bugs?04:09
ScottK2nxvl: I think they've got it running somewhere else.  Ask in #ubuntuwire04:11
nxvlScottK2: thnx04:17
DrIPhi is anyone active here?04:20
kgoetz!anyone04:20
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:20
DrIPlol ok...04:20
DrIPi need to make my ubuntu install into a wireless router...04:20
DrIPmy internet is my wireless, and i need to make my wired available to my other systems04:21
kgoetzDrIP: any guide to turning a system into a router/gateway is what your after04:22
DrIPok04:22
stiv2k_is there any reason why the mediawiki1.10 package puts files in /usr/lib/mediawiki1.10 and /usr/share/mediawiki1.10 and they are all like symlinked to eachother05:28
stiv2k_wtf is up with this?05:28
kgoetztheres probbaly a reason, but i dont know it.05:29
stiv2k_i have my own version of mediawiki installed without the package manager05:29
stiv2k_and all of those files are in ONE directory05:29
kgoetzbcause you installed from tarball05:29
stiv2k_right05:29
kgoetzdebian policy will requir certain files in certain places, which i expct is why theres a symlinkk farm05:30
stiv2k_im just saying, it seems to unreasonably complicate things05:30
kgoetzwould be nice if there was less symlinks, but files would have to be certain places for policy reasons05:30
stiv2k_i want to transfer my custom installation into the debian installation and im afraid of overwriting the symlinks and fucking things up05:30
kgoetzif yours is one dir, you shouldnt have a probem surely05:31
kgoetzbbs05:31
stiv2k_dont just leave me with that!05:31
kgoetzback05:34
kgoetzstiv2k_: whats up? :)05:34
Jeeves_root@unknown # time mkfile -v 10g testje.img07:50
Jeeves_real    0m17.416s07:50
_rubendamn :p07:50
sorenmkfile?07:50
Jeeves_soren: Solaris07:51
sorenAh.07:51
kgoetzJeeves_: root@unknown - deja vu07:53
Jeeves_kgoetz: :)07:53
Jeeves_That's another one!07:53
kgoetz:)07:54
Jeeves_Got it booted yet?07:54
kgoetzJeeves_: work T1k? or yours?07:54
Jeeves_Mine07:54
kgoetzno, i havent had time yet07:54
kgoetzi'll be back inn "a while" - i'mm catching up on some sleep. then i may catch up on my SC> skills :D07:55
sorenJeeves_: What exactly does mkfile do?07:56
Jeeves_soren: Not sure07:57
sorenJeeves_: Never mind, found a man page.07:57
Jeeves_soren: It's not the best way to test speed, I know that much07:57
sorenJeeves_: So you have a storage system that does 600MB/s?07:57
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Jeeves_soren: A Sun Fire X450008:03
Jeeves_48X 250GB SATA08:04
Jeeves_Using zfs08:04
Jeeves_I'm (or we, but it's my pet-project) going to run the Hardy release for .nl on one X4500 and two T1000's08:04
sorenI'm afraid I have yet to drink the ZFS cool-aid. Hence, I'm not going to subscribe to the belief that using zfs can somehow magically boost I/O performance by > 500% :)08:05
sorenEr... Sorry.08:06
soren*cough*08:06
soren48 258GB drives?08:06
sorenEr, 250GB drives.08:06
Jeeves_soren: Yes08:06
Jeeves_http://gallery.bit.nl/main.php?g2_itemId=2948208:06
* soren drools uncontrollably08:07
Jeeves_;)08:07
Jeeves_soren: sales@sun.com, you might even get a extra discount because canonical and sun are friends :)08:08
soren:(08:09
Jeeves_Hmm?08:10
Jeeves_It's not that expensive08:10
Jeeves_20.000 EUR or so08:10
sorenI think I'm going to have a hard time justifying that sort of expense. :)08:11
Jeeves_soren: Try and Buy :)08:12
Jeeves_You can try it for free, for 60-90 days08:12
Jeeves_And than, when you're done drooling, you send it back :)08:13
sorenHm... Tempting :)08:14
_rubenwonder if they'd accept it back when its covered with drool :p08:14
Jeeves__ruben: :)08:16
kgoetz_ruben: as long as its in the box they sent it in, should be ok ;)08:29
kgoetzonly 48 drives though? soft :P08:29
kgoetztry 128 ;) (running a properietary fs :( )08:31
Jeeves_kgoetz: In a 4U box08:31
Jeeves_48TB storage, in 4U...08:31
krautmoin08:31
kgoetzJeeves_: is that one of the 'drop in from the top' arangements?08:32
kgoetzkraut: hey08:32
krauthi kgoetz08:32
Jeeves_kgoetz: Hmm?08:34
kgoetzJeeves_: is it one of the boxes with hdds that drop in from the top?08:35
Jeeves_kgoetz: Yes08:35
kgoetzi love that idea :D08:35
Jeeves_:)08:36
kgoetz:)08:36
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auraxhas anyone tried running a binary made by installjammer on ubuntu 7.10-server ?11:12
auraxi run the binary file in shell and nothing happens.11:12
Jeeves_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html11:31
Jeeves_Hmmm11:31
henkjanbadluck, no sparc release for 8.04 :(11:33
kgoetz:O11:33
kgoetzthats quite a blow for anyone who wants to use ubuntu on stable hardware11:34
henkjanbadluck for Jeeves_ playing with his T1000's11:34
kgoetzbugger Jeeves_ , what about pschulz01 and me? :P11:34
Jeeves_kgoetz: Hmm?11:36
Jeeves_Ow, the release will run on gutsy :)11:36
Jeeves_Too bad though that Canonical and Sun will not support eachother in Hardy11:37
kgoetzseems a little silly - only 12 months support11:37
kgoetzand theres not another lts for 18-24 months11:37
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Jeeves_Indeed11:38
Jeeves_Anyways, luch11:38
Jeeves_+n11:38
kgoetzlater11:38
nijabaJeeves_: wait and see, we could announce stuff with sun on x86...11:38
kgoetzx86 sun != sun11:38
nijabaright11:38
kgoetzsigh. and my amd64 just crashed. *heh*.11:43
zulmorning11:48
faulkes-heh11:49
faulkes-morning zul11:49
kgoetzmorning11:50
kgoetzyay for internet time11:50
faulkes-nijaba: nice msg to -doc12:02
* faulkes- agrees12:02
nijabathanks12:03
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jester45im not sure if this is considered general but, i have a server with 2 connections to the internet (2 gateway dsl modems) and im wondering if there is a way to load balance them or route between them on a port basis (ie :80 goes to gateA :21 goes to gateB)16:02
Jeeves_jester45: man ip16:02
nealmcbnijaba: re: link to server guide from help.ubuntu: no - we must shroud the server edition in mystery so that only the "advanced" initiates will know the true secrets of its magic!16:04
nealmcb:-)16:04
nijaba:-)16:04
jester45i figured i would have to use that.. does it let me have fail over incase 1 line goes down or would i have to change the settings16:04
faulkes-neal: with ever increasingly complex rights of passage and secret irc handshakes right?16:06
nealmcbnijaba: what do you think about my idea of actually labeling all the server guides with version numbers?  seems to me that it would help with clarity for readers and documentation developers alike16:06
nealmcbfaulkes-: shh- this is an open channel - do not speak of these things here16:06
faulkes-neal: I believe it's a good idea, iirc Sommer is working on something like that16:06
faulkes-alot of the confusion I see on the forums stem from two places, 1. people using non-communit/official documentation, 2. people using outdated or different version documentation16:07
faulkes-"but I followed what www.xyz.com/randomguy said to do and now my system doesn't work!"16:08
faulkes-not saying all offsite stuff is bad, just think people need to look at ubuntu first, then offsite16:08
faulkes-a sort of, shall we say, indoctrination of sorts16:09
* faulkes- whistles innocently16:09
nealmcbeek - I just saw more concrete proposals to hide the development version of the server guide via a robots file: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/122297  That would hide good documentation for testers and developers.  I think a site guide would be better16:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122297 in ubuntu-doc "Server Guide draft has higher Google rank than released version" [Medium,Confirmed]16:11
nijabanealmcb: your proposal would make even more sense if we added a link/drop down menu to quickly jump to the other versions.16:14
nealmcbsee also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/192202 on version numbering16:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192202 in kubuntu-docs "copyright dates not being updated" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:14
nealmcbnijaba: yes!16:14
nealmcboften, the new additions to the server guide apply to older versions, so hiding it entirely seems counterproductive16:15
nijabanealmcb: sure, but until we had the DRAFT watermark, people were really being confused.16:17
nijabain addition to that, doc.x.com is usually the official doc, not help.x.com16:17
nealmcbnijaba: true - the DRAFT helps a lot, but links and version numbers would help also - like the packages site etc16:18
nijabanealmcb: could you draft a proposal for the version numbers and link that we could group to my request regarding the h.u.c landing page?16:19
nijabanealmcb: ask for comments about it on the server ml, then we'll forward to the doc ml once everybody agrees.16:20
nealmcbnijaba: if sommer or someone on the doc team can wrangle the files Dean notes at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/192202/comments/4 to do links, versions or site maps, I think it would be better received16:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192202 in kubuntu-docs "copyright dates not being updated" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:36
ivoksnealmcb: yes :)16:41
nijabanealmcb: sure....  do you know anyone good with good html/xsl knowledge that could propose a fix?16:46
nealmcbnijaba: I started looking at it, but am really hoping sommer knows how :-)17:21
nijabasommer: can you help?17:25
nxvljdstrand: you are taking a look at Bug #202706, didn't you?17:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 202706 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "MySQL 5.0.51: ORDER BY not working with GROUP BY" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20270617:25
jdstrandnxvl: I not only took a look at it, I fixed it :)17:25
nxvloh, so its already fixed!17:25
nxvlfine17:25
* nxvl looks for the patch17:26
jdstrandnxvl: I didn't attacha debdiff to the patch17:26
jdstrands/patch/bug/17:26
nxvljdstrand: yes i know, but thats why diff.gz exist :D17:26
jdstrandnxvl: but it is uploaded and needs to get accepted due to beta freeze17:26
nxvljdstrand: is there any way to look at it now?17:27
* jdstrand is checking17:27
jdstrandnxvl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=mysql-dfsg-5.0&start=2017:30
jdstrandnxvl: oh wait17:30
jdstrandnxvl: I think that is the old one17:30
jdstrandnxvl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=mysql-dfsg-5.017:31
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sommernijaba, nealmcb: sure I'm in, what's the question?17:42
zulnxvl: yep uploaded this morning17:43
zuljdstrand: was on the ball17:43
nijabasommer: we would like to propose a patch for the documentation template so that the version of the doc being looked at is always shown + provide a link to other versions of the doc available17:44
sommerfor the serverguide or all docs?17:44
nijabaserver guide is our main concern, but could benefit to all17:44
nijabasommer: nealmcb pointed to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/192202/comments/417:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192202 in kubuntu-docs "copyright dates not being updated" [Undecided,Fix committed]17:45
nijabathe comment list some of the template files17:45
sommerah, I'm with ya... I'll take a look17:45
* nijaba hugs sommer17:46
Raynanyone with experience setting up ircd-hybrid for client-ssl?18:01
sommernijaba, nealmcb: are you wanting the version numbers on a header at the top of the page, or something similar?18:16
sommerI guess I'm not clear on that part18:16
nijabasommer: yep + a menu that links to other versions18:17
sommerI see, looks like that will take some hackery, but it should be doable18:17
nealmcbsommer: yeah - that's what I was thinking of18:19
nealmcblabelling as "hardy draft" with links to other versions is probably the biggest help18:19
sommerso you're only talking about doc.u.c?18:20
sommerthen link that to the help.u.c versions?18:20
nealmcbthat is the immediate concern18:20
nealmcbbut I think versions on everything would be appropriate - people probably copy this stuff, etc18:21
sommerah... that shouldn't be too hard, but doesn't help.u.c aleardy have the version (in the tab at the top)?18:21
faulkes-sommer: it does but it's somewhat confusing in how it works18:32
faulkes-at least I've found it to be18:32
sommerokay, I'll work up some new htmls and do some testing18:34
sommeror try to :-)18:34
faulkes-don't worry18:35
nealmcbsommer: yeah - h.u.c has release info, but not any "last updated" or version info.  we may know that it is rarely updated, but most folks won't, and contributors won't know how to diff it against other versions etc18:41
N0s25hi, anyone here that can help with mailscanner installation?19:00
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faulkes-what about mailscanner?19:12
N0s25I have run apt-get install on mailscanner19:14
N0s25when I try start it, it's does nothing19:14
N0s25doesn'te ven give me an error19:14
N0s25root@phoebe:~# /etc/init.d/mailscanner start19:16
N0s25root@phoebe:~#19:16
stiv2k_should i be pointing my virtualhost's DocumentRoot to /var/lib/mediawiki1.10 or /usr/share/mediawiki1.1019:20
ScatterBrainAnyone running Dapper on a Dell Poweredge 600SC?19:21
faulkes-N0s25: what does "ps -ef | grep -i mail" show19:29
N0s25root@phoebe:~# ps -ef | grep -i mail19:30
N0s25root      3979  3922  0 21:29 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i mail19:30
faulkes-it should create a log, or otherwise tell the system what is happening19:31
faulkes-is there anything in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages or /var/log/mail.*19:31
N0s25syslog -  /USR/SBIN/CRON[3951]: (root) CMD ([ -f $LOCKFILE ] && exit 0; run_mailscanner=0; run_nice=0; if [ -f /etc/default/mailscanner ]; then . /etc/default/mailscanner; fi; [ $run_mailscanner = 0 ] && exit 0; [ -f /var/lock/subsys/MailScanner.off ] && exit 0; trap "rm -f $LOCKFILE" EXIT; touch $LOCKFILE; /usr/bin/nice -$run_nice /usr/sbin/check_mailscanner >/dev/null 2>&1; exit 0)19:33
N0s25Mar 17 21:15:58 phoebe -- MARK --19:33
N0s25Mar 17 21:17:02 phoebe /USR/SBIN/CRON[3977]: (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)19:33
N0s25but I have set runmailscanner = 119:33
dthacker-workWhat is the best way to find if a fix has been released for a specific CVE?19:43
dthacker-workMy Googling has been ineffective.19:44
keescookdthacker-work: currently, looking through http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker's "master" branch for an arbitrary CVE.20:14
keescookdthacker-work: if it's for a package in main, http://ubuntu.com/usn/ will list it if it's fixed20:14
dthacker-workkeescook: thank you20:14
keescookdthacker-work: I'm hoping to get a full report published that's easier to read/navigate20:14
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emily_by default, vim doesn't have highlighting turned on for me -- can someone let me know how to get that turned on?20:23
jdstrandemily_: :syntax on20:25
jdstrandemily_: add 'syntax on' to ~/.vimrc20:25
jdstrandemily_: you probably want 'vim' and not just 'vim-tiny' IIRC20:25
emily_jdstrand: yeah i tried that earlier, but it didn't work, it says I have the wrong version. how do I see if I have vim or vim-tiny?20:26
emily_jdstrand: I think it was syntax enable that I tried actually20:27
jdstranddpkg -l|grep vim20:27
jdstrandif it's not there as 'vim', then apt-get it.  can change the default with 'sudo update-alternatives --config editor'20:27
jdstrand(system wide default that is)20:28
emily_vim-common and vim-tiny showed up20:28
* jdstrand nods20:28
jdstrandapt-get install vim20:28
emily_thought I had done that. apparently i was using the default vim then?20:30
jdstrandyes20:30
emily_well that explains it :-) thanks!20:30
jdstrandnp20:32
emily_jdstrand: there's also a vim-full...that supports gui? is that like a x gui or an ncurses gui?20:33
jdstrandapt-cache show vim-gnome20:34
jdstrand(I don't use vim-full, but it points to vim-gnome)20:34
emily_ahh. got it..probably x then20:36
mathiazdendrobates: Have you looked at bug 196778 ?20:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196778 in likewise-open "Provide likewise-open-gui and likewise-open binaries rather than domainjoin-gui and domainjoin-cli" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19677820:36
mathiazdendrobates: wrt kde support20:36
dendrobatesmathiaz: I saw it, I will fix it with next upload.20:36
lucasvoI am running a dapper server. and I need a more up to date version of git, are there backports for git?20:38
mathiazlucasvo: there is a backport of git in dapper-backports: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/git-core20:39
lucasvomathiaz: cool, thanks!20:44
lucasvomathiaz: I've been fighting with my gitweb for days. it finally works.20:45
lucasvothanks a lot20:45
mathiazlucasvo: you're welcome :)20:45
mathiazlucasvo: but this is a community supported repository - just FYI20:46
lucasvomathiaz: yes. it is not my production server20:46
lucasvoand hopefully it will be in hardy when it'll come out.20:46
mathiazlucasvo: hardy has 1.5.4.3-1ubuntu120:47
mathiazsommer: do you know how the server guide is translated ?20:49
sommermathiaz: I think part of it is by LP and part by translaters20:56
mathiazsommer: I got an email from a french guy that is looking for ways to contribute to the Server Team.20:56
mathiazsommer: amongst the different task I though I could do is to translate the Server guide.20:56
mathiazsommer: I thought *he* could do20:56
mathiazsommer: I wondering if you had any pointers to help20:57
sommerumm... I haven't really been too involved with the translation part, but if you/he sends a message to the doc ml I'm sure someone knows21:00
sommerseems like there's a translation/translator site somewhere21:00
sommermathiaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFrenchTranslators?highlight=%28translat%2921:01
sommermaybe?21:01
Jeeves_kgoetz: I'm starting without you!21:02
mathiazsommer: kwel - I'll look into that. Thanks :)21:02
sommermathiaz: np21:02
N0s25hey gus.. what ap do I install so I can run mail "email" -s from root?21:30
N0s25guys21:30
N0s25hey guys.. what ap do I install so I can run mail "email" -s from root?21:32
LunksI've got a notebook I'd like to try on an LDAP enviroment21:32
LunksBut I've seen only 'ldap only' specifications21:33
LunksI don't want to be required to use LDAP, only when I want. Is it possible?21:33
owhN0s25: There is no such application. What are you trying to do?21:34
N0s25just from root.. type mail "emailaddress" -s test21:36
N0s25and send a test mail from root21:36
owhapt-get install mailx21:36
N0s25k21:36
N0s25thx21:36
Jeeves_Hmm21:38
Jeeves_The T1000's are connected to the wrong physiccal interface21:39
Jeeves_It seems that I cannot boot from the interface I connected them to21:39
owhJeeves_: Isn't that when you cut off the network cable, put on a splitter and solder it all back together?21:40
owhDon't laugh, I've seen it done - it didn't work, and they didn't blow anything up, but I shuddered :)21:40
Jeeves_owh: Eh, right. :)21:53
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ctgPiHow do I set up LVM on a hard drive with known bad sectors?22:04
owhBuy a new hard drive.22:09
owhBad sectors are the beginning of the end.22:09
ctgPiowh: I was half-hoping to use the disk for caching, so data loss wouldn't be a problem22:14
ctgPiowh: but if it's non-trivial, bah, I'll toss it22:14
owhctgPi: I do not know if it's trivial or not, but if you make it into an ext2 then it should just work. If you know which blocks are bad AFAIK you can tell it in advance. Not sure why you'd want to put LVM on it just for caching though.22:16
ctgPiowh: well, I wanted to skip over the neighborhood of bad blocks22:17
ctgPiowh: but I suppose I could instead lie to mke2fs and blacklist the whole interval22:18
owhYup22:18
ctgPiowh: with LVM I could pretend it was all a single contiguous block of space, that's why I asked22:18
ctgPiowh: thanks for the help :)22:19
owhctgPi: But if ext2 has bad blocks on the single partition, it's still a single partition, just some bad blocks in it.22:22
owhctgPi: As for the help, not sure I gave you any, but you're welcome :)22:23
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kinectionsis there an apt repo where i can get apache 1.x instead of apache 2 for 7.10?22:58
Kamping_KaiserJeeves_, :o23:04
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