[00:01] <Regital> matt1728: illegal downloads are not allowed on this channel
[00:01] <Regital> but correct me if im wrong
[00:02] <matt1728> i meant rent =D
[00:02] <matt1728> either way
[00:02] <matt1728> any good movies out there?
[00:02] <eldaria> !wacom-tools
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom-tools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <willis_> matt1728,  go look for the old movies that are not legally in the public domain. :)
[00:03] <willis_> oops i mean NOW legally .. :)
[00:03] <matt1728> lol
[00:04] <Seldaek> hello, I have a problem on an Acer laptop.. any time I do standby or hibernate, it "crashes" on wakeup. i.e. it starts (the cpu fan at least) and then the screen remains blank.. any idea what can I do to avoid having to restart it every time I want to close/move it ? it's really painful to work in these conditions :/
[00:04] <willis_> Seldaek,  Hibernate/Suspend can be such a pain. Even under windows - I disable that stuff.
[00:04] <matt1728> change the close laptop setting to do nothing
[00:05] <matt1728> or set it to sleep
[00:05] <willis_> Yep./ You dont hage to have closing the lid do that stuff.. I just set mine to  enable the screen blanker.
[00:05] <Seldaek> willis_: well.. it can, but with a laptop it's a must have for me.. and it works fine under windows (xp that is.. vista had troubles with standby but not hibernate.. go figure)
[00:05] <Seldaek> well that's fine if you just move it around the house or have it on the power plug
[00:05] <Seldaek> but if I put it in its case and go into the train.. it gets very hot in the case :)
[00:06] <Seldaek> if I leave it running I mean
[00:06] <Seldaek> + it uses the battery so it's not really good..
[00:07] <asobi> what's a good transcoding program? i want to change m4a to mp3
[00:07] <Seldaek> so is there a chance to make it work or should I just forget it and go back to winxp ? :/
[00:07] <matt1728> dont go back to xp
[00:07] <matt1728> lol
[00:07] <willis_> They use so many different terms  for hibernate and suspened and so forth  i dont even knwo what each os is refering to ..
[00:08] <Seldaek> well without hibernation on my laptop there is no choice.. I can't use it if I can't hibernate (or standy)
[00:08] <willis_> Seldaek,  that stuff depends a lot on the kernel. then you got specific drivers that can be causing issues.
[00:08] <matt1728> hibernate is for everything
[00:08] <matt1728> windows and linux both have it
[00:08] <matt1728> linux has suspend aswell
[00:08] <Seldaek> windows has standby/suspend also
[00:09] <willis_> you might want to try the beta release of ubuntu  and see if the newer drivers//kernel works better.
[00:09] <Seldaek> standby just shuts it down but keeps the ram powered to be able to resume
[00:09] <willis_> or check the forums.
[00:09] <Seldaek> hibernate stores the ram on the disk and then shuts down everything for good
[00:09] <root> HOLA
[00:09] <matt1728> oh that's what that means
[00:09] <matt1728> yea
[00:09] <willis_> for a long time some drivers like the sound card, or video cards would crash on resume.
[00:09] <Seldaek> which is better for longer power down periods as it doesn't use the battery at all
[00:09] <willis_> my laptop boots so fast. It dosent benifit me. :)
[00:10] <Seldaek> well it's not about boot time.. it's restarting all my apps and so on
[00:10] <willis_> plus i got a cruddy ati video.
[00:10] <Seldaek> that pisses me off :)
[00:10] <willis_> ive learned to NOT trust suspend/hibernate under windows.. so i dont leave apps open.
[00:10] <willis_> But you go do what you want. :)
[00:10] <Seldaek> is there a way to update to 8.04 from 7.10 without reinstalling ? (i.e. update from the network somehow)
[00:11] <willis_> !upgrade
[00:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:11] <eldaria> !info wacom-tools
[00:11] <ubotu> wacom-tools (source: wacom-tools): utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.7.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 51 kB, installed size 192 kB
[00:11] <Seldaek> well seriously I've ran this thing on xp for a year and hibernate has never failed me once
[00:11] <willis_> check #ubuntu+1 for latest hardy news.
[00:11] <willis_> Seldaek,  ive had Xp fail on me the same day... :)
[00:11] <Seldaek> but I know it's random
[00:11] <Seldaek> on some computers it fails a lot
[00:11] <eldaria> !info wacom-tools Hardy
[00:11] <willis_> Theres a lot of "what if's" with hibernate/suspend.
[00:11] <ubotu> wacom-tools (source: wacom-tools): utilities for Wacom tablet devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.9.3-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 148 kB, installed size 552 kB
[00:11] <Seldaek> my desktop can't standby without crashing for example
[00:12] <willis_> the whole setup is a bit of a disaster with different pc makers.
[00:12] <willis_> and different hardware/drivers..
[00:12] <Seldaek> aye.. I know:)
[00:12] <Seldaek> but the fact is it works under xp with that particular piece of hardware.. so if I have no choice I'll use it
[00:12] <fuhreal> Anyone know where the xine-smb package went too?
[00:13] <willis_> !info xine-smb
[00:13] <ubotu> Package xine-smb does not exist in gutsy
[00:13] <willis_> what does xine-smb do?
[00:13] <Kira> Galera.
[00:13] <Kira> Sou novo no KDe, sou acostumado com XFCE e Gnome.
[00:13] <Seldaek> willis_: anyway let me have a look at that upgrade page.. it doesn't seem to talk about 7.10 to 8.04 but I guess it's similar as other upgrades?
[00:13] <Kira> Algue pode me dar algumas dicas?
[00:13] <Kira> Hey people.
[00:13] <fuhreal> Someone was able to get amarok to play mp3's via smb with that installed
[00:13] <willis_> Seldaek,  try out the various live cd's see if you can find a disrto that handles it.. good luck.  I alwyas do clean reinstalls. never upgrades.
[00:13] <Kira> i'm new in KDE Dektop
[00:13] <Kira> someone could give me some tips?
[00:14] <willis_> Hit F1 - read the kde docs?  :)
[00:14] <fuhreal> i could probably use vlc ... without issue.. but i like amarok
[00:14] <IppatsuMan> !anyone | Kira
[00:14] <ubotu> Kira: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:14] <Seldaek> willis_: well I don't have many CD-Rs available sadly :p
[00:15] <Kira> Does anyone could give some tips?
[00:15] <matt1728> seldak: you can use live usb
[00:15] <willis_> Kira,  how about 'be more specific' ?
[00:15] <Kira> Look dude, i'm don't speak English very well ...
[00:15] <willis_> !es
[00:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:15] <Kira> willis_: like, some tips. aplikations.
[00:15] <willis_> !fr
[00:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:15] <Seldaek> matt1728: ah indeed.. that would be better thanks for the tip.. hopefully my usb stick still works
[00:15] <Kira> willis_: how can i cuztumize KDE desktop.
[00:16] <Kira> something like that.
[00:16] <matt1728> np
[00:16] <willis_> Kira,   fire up the add/remove programs thing and see what all you can install..  explore kde, read the kde docs, to learnhow to set your themes.
[00:16] <Kira> O.K
[00:16] <willis_> Thers a lot of themes in the package manager not installed by default.. explore, learn, enjoy.
[00:16] <IppatsuMan> !themes | Kira
[00:16] <ubotu> Kira: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[00:16] <willis_> messing with themes - is not going to learn you much about the OS however. :)
[00:17] <Kira> Sorry if i'm doing such stupid question, but i usually uses Gnome or XFCE. I don't know a shit about KDe.
[00:17] <Kira> Sorry man.
[00:17] <Kira> :D
[00:17] <Kira> All those link you pass me i already know.
[00:17] <Kira> But thanks.
[00:18] <willis_> If you know how to use gnome and xfce., theres not a lot to learn about kde..
[00:18] <Kira> I'm not a "new" user of linux sistem.
[00:18] <Kira> willis_: don't?
[00:18] <willis_> ya click here, there ,whever.. and use it.. :)
[00:18] <willis_> whats so hard about it.. its rather straight forward.
[00:18] <Kira> willis_: i'm a little bit confuesed. the organization in here is kinda different.
[00:18] <willis_> THEN ya got the kde4 stuff.. thats a bit different.
[00:18] <willis_> 'explore' :)
[00:18] <Kira> willis_: i'm using KDE 3.5
[00:19] <Kira> But i think i can explore this graphic a little more.
[00:19] <willis_> the more i use GNOME,, the more i realize kde is much better...
[00:20] <willis_> for my needs.
[00:20] <willis_> :)
[00:20] <Kira> willis_: there's justa little thing that i don't liked in KDe. KDE is a little "heavy", do you knows what i mean?
[00:20] <Seldaek> willis_: how so ?
[00:20] <Tann> Hello Everyone
[00:20] <intelikey> doc did you get kicked out of the profession ?
[00:21] <willis_> intelikey,  Dr_willis  is on the laptop in the basement :)
[00:21] <intelikey> i see
[00:21] <willis_> Kira,  i dont find kde Heavy at all.
[00:21] <intelikey> Kira heavy    ?      how    where ?
[00:21] <willis_> I find gnome 'crippled' in many ways.
[00:21] <Kira> willis_: here in japan people use MAc at most.
[00:21] <willis_> I find Mac's so crippled its scary.
[00:21] <willis_> :)
[00:21] <Kira> I don't see almost nobody with a Linux desktop .
[00:21] <Kira> hauhauhua
[00:21] <willis_> The problem with focusing on  'user friendly' is that often it becomes 'IDIOT friendly"
[00:22] <Seldaek> linux desktops are rare pretty much everywhere, but that's no excuse to use a mac :p
[00:22] <Kira> Oe windows ...
[00:22] <Kira> :p
[00:22] <intelikey> Kira what do you find "heavy" about kde ?
[00:22] <Kira> window$.
[00:22] <willis_> I have 4 linux machines .
[00:22] <Kira> or*
[00:22] <willis_> :)
[00:22] <Tann> How would I bridge two network connections so that i can use the internet from one connection on the other connection.
[00:22] <willis_> and several guys at work are using it as well.. actually at work  thers several servers on linux.
[00:22] <Kira> I have only one. but my HD is partitioned.
[00:22] <Kira> A heve a Debian Lenny.
[00:22] <willis_> I cant think of ONE person i know that has a mac.
[00:22] <Kira> An Arch Linux.
[00:23] <Kira> And an OpenSUSE.
[00:23] <Kira> willis_: where do you live?
[00:23] <Kira> USA?
[00:23] <intelikey> Tann look for bridge-utils   in the package manager and install.
[00:23] <Aw0L> is there a compiz-fusion icon in the repositories?
[00:23] <Tann> k
[00:23] <Aw0L> the tray icon
[00:23] <Seldaek> willis_: I know one.. no two.. one of them had troubles formatting a disk and he is a student in design/web stuff so.. computer knowledge should be expected, a bit
[00:24] <Kira> Sorry guys am i talking much wrong?
[00:24] <Kira> Or my english it's good?
[00:24] <intelikey> Tann errr you do want to bridge the networks ?   not just use one as a gateway for the other ?
[00:25] <Seldaek> Kira: I wouldn't say good but err, understandable for sure :)
[00:25] <Kira> Seldaek: thnks
[00:27] <Kira> This channel is an American Channel?
[00:28] <ubuntu> Hey all. Im absolutely brand new to this... any suggestions...
[00:28] <Tann> intelikey: I want to use my wireless connection as a gateway to other computers connected to mine by ethernet
[00:28] <Kira> ubuntu: can you explain better?
[00:28] <intelikey> Tann then you don't need to "bridge" them.  you only need to setup a ...
[00:28] <ubuntu> How can i change my user name?
[00:28] <matt1728> (/nick)
[00:29] <Kira> change your user name?
[00:29] <intelikey> let me think of the name.
[00:29] <Tann> k
[00:29] <matt1728> type /nick and then usename
[00:29] <ubuntu> cyfer /nick
[00:29] <Kira> i guess if you go a adduser  you can do something like it.
[00:29] <matt1728> first /nick
[00:29] <Kira> But change the name you chose during the instalatio ...
[00:29] <cyfer> see
[00:30] <ubuntu> how can i change my nickname?
[00:30] <Kira> in irc?
[00:31] <Kira> (/nick)
[00:31] <matt1728> then register it
[00:31] <Kira> I guess.
[00:31] <Kira> o.Õ
[00:31] <matt1728>  type /nick <name>
[00:31] <Kira> O.K
[00:31] <cyfer> hello
[00:31] <matt1728> yea
[00:31] <cyfer> How can i registermy new nickname?
[00:31] <matt1728> !nick
[00:31] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[00:32] <Kira> !Kira
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kira - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <matt1728> ! calls the bot
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calls the bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <Kira> hahauhau
[00:32] <intelikey> Tann sorry i went blank on you.    set up a NAT
[00:33] <matt1728> lol
[00:33] <Kira> Somebody in here watches Anime?
[00:33] <Kira> :D
[00:33] <Tann> intelikey: k
[00:34] <intelikey> Tann set the default gateway as the ip of the internet connection and enable ipv4_forwarding      nothing to it.    and plenty of documentation on the web for it.
[00:34] <IppatsuMan> !ot | Kira
[00:34] <ubotu> Kira: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:34] <Tann> intelikey: thanks
[00:34] <Kira> O.K
[00:34] <cyfer> How do I register my nickname. Sorry I keep repeating the question, but this is my very first time.
[00:35] <matt1728> !nick
[00:35] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[00:35] <matt1728> go to that site
[00:35] <matt1728> it'll show you the commands
[00:35] <matt1728> step by step
[00:35] <Dark-Alien-Core> hello guys i look for a programm that me shows the ip from a pc to them i send a file?
[00:35] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help        <<< cyfer
[00:35] <cyfer> Cheers matt1728...
[00:35] <Dark-Alien-Core> can you help me
[00:35] <matt1728> haha
[00:35] <matt1728> with?
[00:36] <willis_> Dark-Alien-Core,  that dident make much sence.
[00:36] <Kira> abduced!
[00:36] <matt1728> haha
[00:36] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes but i want to see all ips there are connectet to me
[00:36] <intelikey> willis_ doctor him is will not to engrish
[00:37] <IppatsuMan> Dark-Alien-Core: sudo netstat -nap --ip
[00:37] <willis_> No Smorking! :)
[00:37] <intelikey> sorry.
[00:37] <Dark-Alien-Core> thx but gives a programm that show me this
[00:38] <intelikey> Dark-Alien-Core iftop
[00:38] <cyfer> Matt1728. I get the list that should tell me how to register, but im still unsure how to?
[00:38] <Dark-Alien-Core> iftop?
[00:39] <Kira> some on here uses OpenSUSE?
[00:39] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register        <<< cyfer
[00:39] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help help        <<< cyfer
[00:40] <matt1728> yea what intelikey said
[00:40] <intelikey> lol  :)))
[00:40] <IppatsuMan> Dark-Alien-Core: there's already a program that shows ip directly connected to your machine... and it's called netstat. If you need a program with a GUI that does the same thing I'm afraid that there is none, at least in the official repositories.
[00:40] <matt1728> does anyone use k9copy?
[00:40] <matt1728> i need help with it
[00:40] <willis_> ntop shows a lot of info. In a fancy web browser interface.
[00:41] <intelikey> yeah ntop too.
[00:41] <cyfer> Register abracadabra
[00:41] <cyfer> and the magic word still is absolutely USELESS
[00:41] <intelikey> not here.
[00:41] <matt1728> lol
[00:42] <willis_> magic word?
[00:42] <Dark-Alien-Core> ok
[00:42] <matt1728> just type in /msg nickserv register
[00:42] <willis_>  - /msg nickserv register  is too complex?
[00:42] <willis_> :)
[00:42] <coreymon77> i know
[00:42] <coreymon77> i was the hardest thing in the world for me to type that when i first registered my nick
[00:42] <intelikey> cyfer what you wanted was                                                                                                                                                                                                                              /msg nickserv register abracadabra
[00:43] <coreymon77> cyfer: that is, /msg nickserv register [your password]
[00:43] <intelikey> but don't use abracadabra as a password now.  some smart guy will own you just for being newbish
[00:43] <willis_> in xchat you can set it to auto-identify with nikserv also
[00:43] <willis_> use a good password like.. 'password'
[00:43] <willis_> :)
[00:43] <coreymon77> willis_: you can do that in practically any irc client
[00:43] <cyfer> BUGGA. Best think of a new passsword HA HA HA....
[00:43] <geju> can someone answer a stupid question for me?
[00:44] <tikka> yes
[00:44] <willis_> coreymon77,  people seem to always overlook it in xchat.
[00:44] <intelikey> really ?
[00:44] <willis_> geju,  we just did. :)
[00:44] <Dark-Alien-Core> ok i have send a file to a friend so is this now udp?
[00:44] <geju> installing the nvidia drivers in kde...is the same as gnome?
[00:44] <coreymon77> geju: depends how stupid :P
[00:44] <intelikey> willis_ hehhe
[00:44] <tikka> geju: i suspect so, asd its x-org specific
[00:44] <tikka> is*
[00:44] <willis_> geju,  restricted-manager tool. same tool. kubuntu has its own kde specific vvariant.
[00:44] <willis_> or you could instgall/use the gnome one.
[00:44] <Dark-Alien-Core> ??
[00:45] <willis_> 'now udp' ? what you mean by udp?
[00:45] <Dark-Alien-Core> so i make a sceenshot one moment
[00:46] <cyfer> REGISTER A
[00:46] <coreymon77> cyfer: the point is to not do that into the channel
[00:47] <matt1728> lol
[00:48] <matt1728> just message youself and do it
[00:48] <matt1728> !dvd burning
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd burning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:48] <matt1728> !dvd rip
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd rip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:48] <intelikey> hmmm i have 2357 symlinks in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[00:48] <matt1728> !ripping
[00:48] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[00:48] <matt1728> !dvd copy
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd copy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <matt1728> !dvd burning
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd burning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <Dark-Alien-Core> so this is the link
[00:49] <Dark-Alien-Core> http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7476/pandith7.jpg
[00:49] <coreymon77> !botabuse | matt1728
[00:49] <ubotu> matt1728: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[00:49] <Dark-Alien-Core> can you tell me what are pidgin me shows his ip
[00:49] <matt1728> sorry
[00:49] <cyfer> erm
[00:49] <matt1728> pidgin?
[00:49] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes i have send a file to my kumpel and its a test
[00:49] <coreymon77> matt1728: previously known as gaim
[00:50] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes
[00:50] <matt1728> that's for aim
[00:50] <matt1728> and other things
[00:50] <matt1728> yepp
[00:50] <Dark-Alien-Core> how is the ip to there i send the file in pidgin
[00:50] <cyfer> matt1728. how come im getting the message (cyfer) is already registered, but im still getting it shown??
[00:51] <coreymon77> cyfer: apparently either you or someone else already registered that nick
[00:51] <Dark-Alien-Core> ?
[00:51] <matt1728> did you seta password?
[00:52] <dvoid> where do i change kwallet password?
[00:52] <coreymon77> matt1728: the nick is already registered
[00:52] <coreymon77> matt1728: i checked with nickserv
[00:52] <Dark-Alien-Core> my friend says to me you dont get my ip,so i wanted to show him
[00:53] <coreymon77> matt1728: however, it hasnt been used for over a year, so he could probably get it dropped
[00:53] <intelikey> /msg nickserv identify <password>
[00:53] <matt1728> yea
[00:54] <intelikey> does /whois work in gaim  ?
[00:54] <Dark-Alien-Core> hm i dont know
[00:54] <coreymon77> intelikey: cyfer seems to be a new user, the nick has been registered with nickserv for over 2 years, i doubt it was him who registered it
[00:54] <coreymon77> intelikey: try it
[00:54] <matt1728> pidgin?
[00:55] <IppatsuMan> dvoid: left click on kwallet -> right click on the wallet whose password you want to change -> click on "change password..."
[00:55] <Dark-Alien-Core> he says i have vista and you linux noob never get my ip so lets look *G
[00:55] <coreymon77> Dark-Alien-Core: lol
[00:55] <coreymon77> Dark-Alien-Core: thats a hoot
[00:55] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes i habe send him a file via pidgin
 intelikey: cyfer seems to be a new user, the nick has been registered <<<   yes saw that but lagging about 2 minutes...
[00:56] <willis_> I thought the instant messanger type tools kept each otehrs ips hidden  normally. they connect to the main server, then to the other guy.
[00:56] <willis_> Only way to get his ip would be for him to tell you.
 intelikey: try it << i don't have gaim  was asking if <Dark-Alien-Core> might use it.
[00:56] <dvoid> IppatsuMan, oooh  never tried to left click on it ;)
[00:56] <Dark-Alien-Core> under windows i had qip and when i send a file he shows me the ip
[00:57] <Odd-rationale> dvoid: Open kdewallet, select the wallet you want to change the password, then go to File --> Change Password
[00:57] <willis_> sounds like qip could be considered a security issue to me then. :)
[00:57] <Dark-Alien-Core> hm
[00:57] <willis_> or it was doing somthing odd with the  IM network.  but i dont do IM..
[00:58] <willis_> I perfer IRC>
[00:58] <Dark-Alien-Core> so what port sends pidign
[00:58] <willis_> If you really want his ip.. ask him to tell you his ip.
[00:58] <willis_> Pidgin is a MULTI-IM client.
 sounds like qip could be considered a security issue to me then. :) <<< or a hackers tool
[00:58] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes but he says haha looser to me
[00:58] <coreymon77> willis_: his friend is using vista and told him "you linux n00b will never be able to figure out my ip since im on vista
[00:58] <coreymon77> "
[00:59] <Dark-Alien-Core> qip is a great messenger
[00:59] <googleboy> hi.. i am new to linux but i am trying to ""Create a file at "~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable"""  in order to disable XGL but i cant find the /.config directory
[00:59] <cyfer> hello
[01:00] <Dark-Alien-Core> yes i have the ip thx guys
[01:00] <prince_jammys> googleboy: you looked in your home directory? it's a hidden file
[01:01] <Dark-Alien-Core> so i can tell my friend his ip haha he is shocked :)
[01:01] <googleboy> how do i get to it so i can create the file
[01:01] <intelikey> googleboy   mkdir -p ~/.config/xserver-xgl/
[01:02] <willis_> coreymon77,  then i would have to ask.. what does this have to do with Kubuntu Support. :)
[01:02] <prince_jammys> googleboy: set your browser show hidden files and directories, and see if it's there. or do ls -a ~
[01:02] <coreymon77> willis_: it doesnt :P
[01:02] <intelikey> googleboy kate ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable
[01:02] <willis_> coreymon77,  heh.. That settles it then.
[01:03] <googleboy> its .config
[01:03] <willis_> ~ is shortcut/term for the users home dir.. ~ = /home/YOURUSERNAME
[01:03] <intelikey>    mkdir -p ~/.config/xserver-xgl/
[01:04] <cyfer> erm im a little lost here can somebody help me please?
[01:05] <cyfer> do u need to put these arrows in when registering??
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[01:05] <googleboy> cool
[01:05] <coreymon77> cyfer: you dont
[01:05] <prince_jammys> cyfer: no
 ~ is shortcut/term for the users home dir.. ~ = /home/YOURUSERNAME  <<< = $HOME
[01:05] <coreymon77> cyfer: <> means, insert info here
[01:06] <cyfer> so what is the correct command to register a name and password??
[01:06] <prince_jammys> !register
[01:06] <coreymon77> cyfer: <password> means, placeholder for your password
[01:06] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[01:06] <coreymon77> cyfer: the <nickname> is a placeholder
[01:06] <coreymon77> cyfer: in that place, you put whatever you want your nickname to be
[01:06] <googleboy> the other thing i was trying to do was was uninstall the search daemon
[01:06] <prince_jammys> strigi?
[01:06] <googleboy> strigi
[01:07] <googleboy> yeah... read that it would speed up system
[01:07] <prince_jammys> you don't have to uninstall, you can just disable it
[01:07] <googleboy> where? cause im trying to make my startup as fast as possible...
[01:08] <coreymon77> sypher: do you want to register the nickname cyfer?
[01:08] <matt1728> ubotu find dvd rip
[01:08] <ubotu> Found: dvd+rw-tools, radvd, dvd95, dvdauthor, dvdbackup (and 20 others)
[01:08] <fuhreal> anyone know how to get the xine extra plugins installed? for some reason its grey'd out in the adept installer
[01:09] <skana> hello
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> I can't figure out strigi. I type something into the search and click search, but nothing happens.
[01:09] <intelikey> search daemon ???     someone tell me that kde didn't do that !
[01:09] <skana> how canu talk to staff?
[01:09] <googleboy> intelikey ---- yeap...
[01:10] <googleboy> or at least it says in the forums
[01:10] <prince_jammys> yes, i have it disabled
[01:10] <intelikey> skana about ?
[01:10] <googleboy> i uninstalled the aplet in apt but i want to 86 the daemon too
[01:11] <coreymon77> syefa: do you want the nickname cyfer?
[01:11] <googleboy> where do i disable?
[01:12] <prince_jammys> googleboy: i don't remember.  look in "services" and "system services" in systemsettings
[01:13] <coreymon77> sparkz: make up your mind
[01:14] <sparkz> HA HA HA. Im flippinuseless
[01:14] <sparkz> Right ive got my name sorted.
[01:14] <coreymon77> sparkz: is this the one you want
[01:15] <intelikey> what is this crap ?   ntop startup - waiting for user response!
[01:15] <intelikey> Please enter the password for the admin user:
[01:15] <sparkz> whats the correct command to register a password?
[01:15] <coreymon77> sparkz: is this the nickname you want?
[01:16] <sparkz> Definately
[01:16] <coreymon77> okay
[01:16] <intelikey> msg nickserv register something_for_a_passowrd
[01:16] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register something_for_a_passowrd
[01:17] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register your_own_passowrd
[01:17] <prince_jammys> :)
[01:17] <coreymon77> intelikey: give it a sec, the nick needs to be dropped
[01:17] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register not_my_passowrd
[01:17] <sparkz> Why the  blood y hell does it tell ya you can have this nickname and the tell ya its taken
[01:17] <sparkz> PUDDLED
[01:17] <coreymon77> sparkz: type this, /msg RichiH and tell him to drop it
[01:18] <coreymon77> sparkz: tell that guy to drop the nick registration for you, then you can register it
[01:18] <intelikey> /msg RichiH please drop my nickname
[01:18] <Jsn0327> Can someone please tell me how to take a component out of autostart using the commandline?
[01:19] <intelikey> Jsn0327 rm ~/.kde/Autostart/whatever
[01:20] <intelikey> Jsn0327 unless you are refering to system startup processes      sudo update-rc.d blah blah blah
[01:20] <Jsn0327> thank you
[01:21] <intelikey> Dr_willis you use ntop ?
[01:21] <googleboy> anyone had any success installing kde4 on x86_64 system?
[01:21] <intelikey> willis_ ?
[01:22] <johnny53> i really need some help, im trying to install kubuntu from a live cd on an old laptop with no ethernet port, all i have is a linksys wpc54g v.3 wireless card and kubuntu is trying to use the wrong driver for it
[01:23] <Jsn0327> what are the extensions of bash scripts and where are they usually located at in kbuntu?
[01:24] <Jsn0327> johnny53:  is kubuntu already installed?
[01:24] <Jsn0327> !ndiswrapper
[01:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:24] <Jsn0327> check out that link
[01:24] <intelikey> Jsn0327 extensions ?        located anywhere in the path
[01:25] <johnny53> no, right now there is no os on the computer
[01:25] <intelikey> Jsn0327 what do you mean "what are the extensions of bash scripts" ?
[01:25] <Jsn0327> extension, like .exe, .txt, .bat, .py
[01:25] <intelikey> no
[01:25] <intelikey> you are barking up the wrong tree
[01:25] <Jsn0327> i'm trying to create a bash script
[01:26] <johnny53> the thing is i cant download ndiswrapper or anything like that because i have no internet connection plus im just running from a live cd
[01:26] <intelikey> this is not windows
[01:26] <intelikey> Jsn0327 to do ?
[01:27] <Jsn0327> to load a tray icon on boot but wait 30 seconds before doing it
[01:27] <Jsn0327> its for wicd
[01:28] <Jsn0327> johnny53: ya got me there.  The only thing that i can think of is to use another computer with an internet connection, download the deb for ndiswrapper as well as the known working wireless driver for windows, and burn them to a cd for use after you get kubuntu installed
[01:28] <Jsn0327> is it not installing?
[01:28] <intelikey> Jsn0327 echo '#!/bin/sh\n\nsleep 30\nwicd' > ~/.kde/Autostart/my_new_script
[01:28] <intelikey> Jsn0327 chmod 755 ~/.kde/Autostart/my_new_script
[01:28] <fuhreal> anyone know why xine extra plugins is greyed out in the adept installer?
[01:29] <johnny53> but its a live cd so i cant install kubuntu without an internet connection
[01:29] <intelikey> Jsn0327 ^^    or do you mean for it to run from upstart as root user ?
[01:29] <coreymon77> johnny53: and why cant you?
[01:29] <Jsn0327> no that should do it
[01:29] <Jsn0327> is changing the mode to 755 the same as changing it to +x?
[01:30] <intelikey> not exactly  but close enough.
[01:30] <johnny53> cause i thought it needed an internet connection to download packages and stuff
[01:30] <intelikey> mode 755 == rwxr-xr-x
[01:30] <Jsn0327> johnny53:  a live cd does not require an internet connection.  It is meant for use without installing, but does give you the option once you have the OS up and running
[01:30] <Jsn0327> intelikey: thanks alot
[01:31] <coreymon77> johnny53: the packages are all on the cd, thats the point
[01:31] <Dr_willis> of course the live cd can be a bit limited for some tasks
[01:32] <intelikey> Jsn0327 unix/linux octal permissions are   three binary digits per {owner,group,other}   first digit read second write third execute    so   111 = 7
[01:32] <johnny53> ok, sweet... but does anyone know why when its installing, the installer will freeze up and then shut off after the first step where it asks me what language i want to use
[01:32] <intelikey> 755 = 111,101,101
[01:32] <intelikey> or 755 == rwxr-xr-x
[01:33] <avelino> tem algum brazuca no canal?
[01:33] <prince_jammys> !br | avelino
[01:33] <ubotu> avelino: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:34] <avelino> tks
[01:34] <avelino> #ubuntu-br
[01:34] <Aloha> kdesktop_lock keeps crashing. anyone might know why?
[01:34] <Aloha> it crashes and then restarts and crashes later in the day
[01:34] <prince_jammys>  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:34] <johnny53> ok, thx guys
[01:37] <Agent_bob> i should probably point out that there is a forth group of perms  the {suid,sgid,sticky} bits.    most files and dirs are 0***    so you don't mess with the first octet     i.e     chmod 0755 blah          but the first octet is normally ignored on files you write or dirs you create.        you can look at   ls -lnhd /tmp   for an example of sticky   and   ls -hnl /usr/bin/passwd    for a suid bit.
[01:39] <Agent_bob>  /tmp is 1777   and passwd is 4755
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[01:40] <Agent_bob> well i go now.
[01:40] <Agent_bob> gooday fellas    and a better one tomarrow
[01:41] <matt1728> !dvd back up
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd back up - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <Dr_willis> !info k9copy
[01:42] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[01:43] <fuhreal> What do i need to stream media files from my windows box to my kubuntu laptop?
[01:50] <fuhreal> is irc.ubuntu.net really irc.freenode.net ?
[01:51] <hydrogen> yes
[01:51] <kgoetz> irc.ubuntu.com
[01:52] <Dr_willis> fuhreal,  vlc can do that.
[01:52] <fuhreal> Dr_willis: trying it but it wants to copy the file before playing
[01:54] <Dr_willis> fuhreal,  how are you accessing the file?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> vlc can stream. and stream to a web browser..
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Of you could just access the file over a mounted samba share..
[01:55] <Dr_willis> which may be a lot easier
[01:55] <fuhreal> Dr_willis: I'm trying to stream after browsing with smb
[01:55] <Dr_willis> fuhreal,  thats the catch.. the kde smb browser is 'browsing' not mounting the samba share.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Use a tool like the fusesmb, or other ways to actually Mount the share to a local dir.
[01:56] <Aloha> sshfs is awesome
[01:56] <Dr_willis> vlc on the other box.. can STREAM to the  local box.. but thats an annoyance.
[01:56] <fuhreal> !fusesmb
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Dr_willis> sshfs is darn handy also in such a case.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> !info smbfuse
[01:56] <ubotu> Package smbfuse does not exist in gutsy
[01:56] <Dr_willis> !info fusesmb
[01:56] <ubotu> fusesmb (source: fusesmb): filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[01:56] <Aloha> just got to remember to add users to fuser group
[01:56] <Dr_willis> google for the 'fusesmb wiki ubuntu' page.. it details fusesmb
[01:56] <fuhreal> interesting
[01:57] <fuhreal> ty Dr_willis
[01:57] <Dr_willis> sshfs is usefull also
[01:57] <Seldaek> Dr_willis: 4mins away from 8.04 upgrade, we'll see if it helps:)
[01:57] <fuhreal> swhats sshfs ?
[01:57] <Aloha> fuhreal: it mounts remote ssh filesystem on your system
[01:58] <Aloha> fuhreal: like user@remote.host:/blah becomes /mount/blah
[01:58] <fuhreal> ahhh
[01:58] <fuhreal> i c
[02:02] <Dr_willis> it pays to RTFM on the fuse tools.. that wiki page has some good info also.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> once ye learn how to use one. the others are similer. :)
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Work time for me. Byeee
[02:06] <googleboy> is this really bad??? ----->   Unable to save bookmarks in /home/googleboy/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[02:07] <Aloha> googleboy: do you have any hard drive space left?
[02:07] <norv> googleboy: type df in a konsole and check how much disk is left
[02:08] <Aloha> googleboy: df -h is easier to read IMO
[02:08] <googleboy> nothing with more than 8% used
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> googleboy: run "sudo rm /home/googleboy/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml".... it comes from running dolphin with sudo
[02:09] <googleboy> i have an ntfs partition thats getting full and that i cant mount now for some reason
[02:09] <googleboy> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[02:09] <googleboy> /dev/hda3             39484148   2705484  34772952   8% /
[02:09] <googleboy> varrun                  707884       144    707740   1% /var/run
[02:09] <googleboy> varlock                 707884         0    707884   0% /var/lock
[02:09] <googleboy> udev                    707884        64    707820   1% /dev
[02:09] <googleboy> devshm                  707884         0    707884   0% /dev/shm
[02:09] <googleboy> lrm                     707884     38324    669560   6% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[02:11] <prince_jammys> use kdesudo for GUI apps
[02:12] <googleboy> thanx nosrednaekim
[02:12] <googleboy> why cant i login as root?
[02:12] <googleboy> i tried to activate it but no luck
[02:13] <prince_jammys> if you created a root password, you should be able to (not recommended, btw)
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> googleboy, if you must use d3lphin as root, use kdesu instead of sudo
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> !root
[02:14] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:16] <googleboy> oh....
[02:16] <norv> I've had to reboot several times into recovery mode due to sudo refusing to accept my password
[02:16] <norv> something about the timestamp being too far in the future
[02:25] <prince_jammys> norv: check this whole thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505&page=2
[02:31] <matt1728> is there an app that can rip video TS folders of off DVDs?
[02:33] <googleboy> is there a way to get a lot of codecs at once??? (cant view most of my movies that i downloaded)
[02:38] <kevinlc77> hello
[02:38] <googleboy> is there a way to get a lot of codecs at once??? (cant view most of my movies that i downloaded)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> googleboy: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:39] <kevinlc77> very new here. tryinig to get second monitor to work
[02:40] <kevinlc77> yo
[02:40] <googleboy> nosrednaekim --- just type that command?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> googleboy: no, install that package
[02:40] <kevinlc77> where to type commands in ? at at the start run command line?
[02:42] <kevinlc77> he-llo...
[02:42] <kevinlc77> i can see Konversation is of no help
[02:42] <kevinlc77> hi
[02:42] <kevinlc77> anyone????????????????????????????????????????
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> kevinlc77: in the terminal... or konsole
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> !terminal
[02:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:43] <kevinlc77> ah thanks
[02:47] <larrydag> anyone having issues with kmail transfer protocol?  i can't seem to get any accounts to send mail besides my default
[02:49] <googleboy> nosrednaekim
[02:49] <googleboy> nosrednaekim:   i cant find that package in adept manager
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> googleboy: are you using kubuntu gutsy, 7.10?
[02:50] <googleboy> yep
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> you may need to enable the restricted repository adept->manage repositories and enable restricted
[02:55] <jgarayua> hola
[02:56] <jgarayua> alguien habla espanol?
[02:57] <googleboy> thanx again guys
[02:57] <fuhreal> Anyone here familiar with knetworkmanager?
[03:01] <fuhreal> does ubuntu use wpa_supplicant?
[03:03] <fuhreal> test...
[03:32] <maduser> how do I make my video driver faster?
[03:44] <jarn> When I plug in external drives, none of them automount.
[03:45] <maduser> do they mount at all?
[03:46] <jarn> Yeah.
[03:46] <jarn> They just don't automount.
[03:46] <jarn> Or, one of them mounts... one doesn't mount at all... hrm...
[03:47] <maduser> the one that doesn't is it nfts
[03:47] <maduser> ?
[03:47] <jarn> No.
[03:47] <jarn> It's ext3.
[03:47] <jarn> Both are.
[03:47] <maduser> what kind of drives are they
[03:47] <Seldaek> hm how do I exit KDE/X?
[03:48] <jarn> The one that doesn't automount but I can manually mount is a 160gb Western Digital.
[03:48] <maduser> to the terminal?
[03:49] <jarn> The other one doesn't even show up in Dolphin under media, and it's a 500gb Segate.
[03:49] <jarn> Seagate.
[03:49] <maduser> try lsusb
[03:49] <maduser> jarn
[03:49] <jarn> It shows up under lsusb.
[03:50] <jarn> But how can I mount it?
[03:50] <maduser> are you sure there ext3?
[03:50] <jarn> Yes.
[03:50] <jarn> I just formatted it that way.
[03:50] <jarn> Using gparted.
[03:50] <maduser> did you try an install an os on them?
[03:50] <jarn> The other one, the 160gb one, has been ext3 for a long time.
[03:50] <jarn> And no, I did not try to install an os on them.
[03:51] <maduser> do you have a windows computer?
[03:51] <jarn> Yes.
[03:51] <jarn> I dual boot.
[03:51] <maduser> well you could format the Seagate to NFTS then run a program to mount NFTS
[03:51] <jarn> I'd rather format it as ext3.
[03:51] <maduser> are you good with the terminal?
[03:52] <jarn> The ext3 drivers for Windows are, from what I hear, much more stable than the ntfs drivers for Linux.
[03:52]  * jarn shrugs.
[03:52] <jarn> I can usually do what needs to be done.
[03:52] <maduser> try formating it ext3 under winodows if you can do that
[03:52] <jarn> I don't think I can.
[03:53] <jarn> I think I'll see if it will run in Windows.
[03:53] <jarn> Then I know if it's a problem with the drive or Linux.
[03:53] <maduser> i know the ntfs will work
[03:53] <jarn> Since I just formatted it, it may be a problem with the drive - the format failing or something.
[03:53] <maduser> then you will need a script to mount it
[03:53] <jarn> I'm going to keep it as ext3. Thanks, though. I'd rather have to manually mount it than worry about drivers that, from everything I hear, are mildly unstable.
[03:54] <maduser> I mean the one that does not apper at all
[03:54] <jarn> Ah.
[03:54] <jarn> Well, I'll go see if it works in Windows.
[03:54] <jarn> Then I know if it's a problem with the drive or a problem with something in my Linux installation.
[04:05] <fuhreal> !info wcid
[04:05] <ubotu> Package wcid does not exist in gutsy
[04:05] <fuhreal> !info wicd
[04:05] <ubotu> Package wicd does not exist in gutsy
[04:18] <fuhreal_> if I were to search for a new theme ... at kde-look.org. ... should I be looking nder Theme-Manager or just KDE 3.2-3.5 ?
[04:25] <jarn> How do I check what device a drive is?
[04:27] <fuhreal_> how do i check how much ram my system has ?
[04:27] <maduser> in windows though the admin tools
[04:28] <hellhound> I just install kubuntu on a third desktop (two others are successfully installed) and for some reason on this computer kubuntu is extremely slow.. it has 1 gig of ram on a xeon 2ghz processor
[04:28] <kgoetz> fuhreal_: 'free'
[04:30] <fuhreal_> kgoetz: cool thanks
[04:31] <fuhreal_> kgoetz: now if i can just find a nice simple dark theme
[04:31] <hellhound> does anyone know of anything I can check??? the computer is slow for everything including mouse movements
[04:31] <fuhreal_> hellhound: top
[04:31] <jarn> How do I check what device a drive is?
[04:33] <hellhound> fuhreal_: what do i look for in top?
[04:33] <fuhreal_> hellhound: thats like windows task manager if you know about windows
[04:34] <fuhreal_> hellhound: whatever is on the "top" is eating your cpu
[04:34] <hellhound> fuhreal_: i do not see anything out of the ordinary that is different from my desktops
[04:34] <fuhreal_> hellhound: you can kill process by typing kill <pid> .. where pid is show in top ....
[04:34] <jarn> I have two external drives that won't mount. When I try to mount them it says they're already mounted, but they're not.
[04:34] <fuhreal_> hellhound: then i dunno sorry
[04:34] <hellhound> fuhreal_: there is no real process to kill.. it is just running slow for anything
[04:35] <fuhreal_> hellhound: could it be your video?
[04:35] <fuhreal_> hellhound: not really running slow just drawing slow?
[04:36] <hellhound> fuhreal_: hummm that is interesting how would I tell?  when i type in the console, move the mouse, select an application, boot or restart it is all incrediably slow
[04:36] <hellhound> fuhreal_: at first i thought my RAM was going out but memtest could not find anything wrong
[04:46] <jarn> I have two external drives that, when I try to mount them from the command line, I'm told they're already mounted. However, when I try to unmount them, I'm told they're not mounted.
[04:48] <Scott__> Hey guys
[04:48] <Scott__> I just did a fresh install, when I open adept to update
[04:49] <Scott__> there are 161 packages, downloads em all, gets to 60 percent installed and crashes
[04:49] <Scott__> confirmed on reinstall twice
[04:49] <Scott__> don't know where to go, if I reboot right now it wont boot up
[04:49] <Scott__> omg
[04:49] <Scott__> Pat :)
[04:50] <pat5star> hey scott, is that the scott I'm thinking it is? :)
[04:50] <Scott__> it is :)
[04:50] <pat5star> Scott__: how you doing bud?
[04:50] <Scott__> Not to bad :)
[04:50] <Scott__> Ran into some stupid kubuntu bug
[04:50] <kgoetz> Scott__: running out of disc?
[04:50] <Scott__> disc?
[04:51] <Scott__> no
[04:51] <Scott__> :)
[04:51] <kgoetz> disk?
[04:51] <pat5star> Scott__: what's going on?
[04:51] <kgoetz> :p
[04:51] <pat5star> Scott__: what bug
[04:51] <kgoetz> Scott__: are you chatting from that system, or can you start the install again?
[04:51] <Scott__> pat5star: Fresh install off livecd
[04:51] <Scott__> kgoetz: I have it running in a VM
[04:51] <Scott__> if I restart the VM the system will not boot up
[04:52] <Scott__> This is the 3rd time attempted before I jumped on IRC :)
[04:52] <pat5star> Scott__: wish I could help, I've only started messing around with vm the last few days, got it installed but can't get mine working right either
[04:52] <pat5star> Scott__: trying to get to the point that I don't have dual boot anymore :)
[04:52] <Scott__> ah
[04:53] <Scott__> where u at?
[04:53] <pat5star> Scott__: home
[04:53] <Scott__> P.?
[04:53] <pat5star> Scott__: yep
[04:53] <Scott__> How often u on the road now a days?
[04:54] <pat5star> Scott__: not...been off road since November...got some stupid medical stuff going on, probably be off for a couple more months yet
[04:54] <Scott__> should come out to a lug meeting :)
[04:54] <pat5star> Scott__: actually just contacted J the other day via email to find out about the lug meetings, going to start going again...you still going?
[04:54] <Scott__> yupp
[04:54] <kgoetz> Scott__: if you go until it crashes, you can press F4 and see the debug console
[04:55] <Scott__> go until adept crashes you mean:
[04:55] <Scott__> ?
[04:55] <pat5star> Scott__: cool, I definitely will...can you send me an email reminding when and where the next one is...I'll buy coffee!
[04:55] <Scott__> nice :0
[04:55] <Scott__> drop me a line, cant write stuff down
[04:55] <kgoetz> Scott__: ah, your doing a graphical upgrade?
[04:55] <Scott__> fresh 7.10 install off the cd
[04:56] <Scott__> reboot launch adept
[04:56] <Scott__> and pick complete upgrade
[04:56] <Scott__> downloads 161 packages, starts installing
[04:56] <Scott__> crashes at 60 percent
[04:56] <pat5star> Scott__: ok I will, I'll be back and forth to this channel but leave it running, I'm doing some programming here right now on nothing important, but just to keep myself busy
[04:57] <kgoetz> not sure how to debug adept sorry
[04:57] <pat5star> Scott__: don't use adept, use term and just apt-get dist-upgrade, that way if any packages need confirmation or some kind of input it's less likely to break
[04:59] <pat5star> Scott__: and if sudo apt-get dist-upgrade won't start, do ps aux | grep adept, find all running pids for adept, kill them, then do the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again, that should do it for you
[04:59] <Scott__> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a ' to correct the problem
[04:59] <Scott__> notifier is the only thing running
[05:00] <pat5star> Scott__: or that was the other error I figured you'd get...sudo dpkg --configure -a  should fix it then
[05:00] <Scott__> libqt3-mt
[05:01] <Scott__> :)
[05:01] <pat5star> Scott__: $10 says it's one stupid package that wants to change a config file but is trying to ask your permission on how to handle it, and adept crashed/freaked out when that happened :)
[05:01] <Scott__> This is for my presentation for Thursday I botched bad
[05:01] <Scott__> J gave me 2 hours to make a presentation cause he couldn't come
[05:01] <Scott__> I had to install a linux desktop in the same timeframe
[05:01] <pat5star> Scott__: lol, is it this Thursday for the next meeting?
[05:02] <Scott__> I still firmly believe linux was meant as a console os :)
[05:02] <Scott__> nope last thursday ;)
[05:02] <Scott__> But if you are up for coffee or whatever with me and Trevor drop me a line at that e-mail with your cell or I will reply with mine or whatever
[05:03] <pat5star> Scott__: damn, wish I had made it...I disagree about the console thing now tho...I've got 5 comps here running kubuntu and my family (kids too) are all big linux fans now...nobody wants to use windows here...never thought I'd see the day they quit crying for windows :)
[05:03] <Scott__> lol I switched to Macs ;)
[05:04] <pat5star> Scott__: I still haven't tried Mac yet...I'm scared too...everyone I know that tries one become insanely obsessed with them!
[05:04] <Scott__> Me to :)
[05:04] <Scott__> PC tech for over 15 years
[05:04] <Scott__> I now own over 8 thousand in mac equipment :)
[05:04] <pat5star> Scott__: Ya coffee sounds good some night, maybe within the next couple of days...can I still use your website email address?
[05:05] <Scott__> should be able to
[05:05] <Scott__> I don't check it that much, faster to use the one I gave ya
[05:06] <pat5star> Scott__: lol, I'd love to check out your setups some day then. We got a lot to talk about soon then. Anyways, I'm going to get back to work here but leave this open and check in every 10 mins or so...talk to you in a bit
[05:06] <Scott__> Sure I might be gone myself in about 15
[05:06] <Scott__> drop me a line :)
[05:06] <pat5star> Scott__: I'll look and see if I still have the other address, I'm sure I do but if not, I'll figure out how to track you down :P
[05:06] <pat5star> Scott__: I will, good to hear from you again bud :)
[05:06] <Scott__> you too
[05:07] <Scott__> check your messages
[05:07] <pat5star> Scott__: k
[05:09] <Thurin1> How can I get to the K control center? - Not the abridged one that Kubuntu uses.. the full one.. ? :|
[05:10] <Jucato> Thurin1: press Alt+F2, enter "kcontrol"
[05:11] <Thurin1> Jucato: Ok.. why did Kubuntu decide to cripple it?
[05:11] <Thurin1> Menu wise
[05:11] <Jucato> long story
[05:11] <Jucato> in the end. KDE 4 uses the same interface (but with more modules)
[05:11] <Thurin1> I bet, and an annoying one.. for intermediate users I would think
[05:12] <Jucato> intermediate/power users would have no trouble setting up the system and using kcontrol :)
[05:12] <Thurin1> I usually use Gnome.. but decided to give Kubuntu a try after a system got trashed..
[05:12] <Thurin1> Jucato: I never use KDE ;)
[05:12] <Jucato> intermediate/power *KDE* users would have no trouble setting up the system and using kcontrol :) <--- edited
[05:12] <Thurin1> My system for some reason tends to crash constantly under it
[05:13] <Thurin1> Well.. KDE, my system is ok heh
[05:13] <Jucato> :)
[05:14] <Thurin1> Could you try to help me reproduce something?
[05:14] <Jucato> not right now. sorry
[05:14] <Thurin1> open Kcontrol > peripherals and "display monitor"
[05:14] <Thurin1> Anyone else here?
[05:14] <Thurin1> If so.. please tell me - do you end up at a default Konqueror screen with no display options?
[05:15] <Jucato> konqueror screen?
[05:15] <Jucato> hm... you installed kubuntu/kde on top of ubuntu?
[05:15] <Thurin1> Yeah "Welcome to Konqueror" yada with some system information
[05:15] <Thurin1> Jucato: Nope pure install, new, 7.10
[05:15] <Jucato> ah
[05:16] <Thurin1> System settings (Kubuntu default) monitor and display works but doesn't actually change refresh rates...
[05:16] <Thurin1> Perhaps I will do a dpkg-reconfigure of xorg
[05:17] <Thurin1> An orphaned control module
[05:17] <Thurin1> wtf...
[05:17] <Thurin1> The only thing I installed was Mplayer from source
[05:17] <Thurin1> strange
[05:40] <cyferactive> hey
[05:43] <cyferactive> hello
[05:44] <cyferactive> is there anybody out-there???
[05:48] <cyferactive> helllllllllooooooo
[05:53] <cyferactive> its mine
[05:54] <cyferactive> its me
[05:57] <cyferactive> can u see me?
[05:57] <cyferactive> what time is it?
[06:01] <cyferactive> is there anybody out-there???
[06:09] <Cannon> morning all
[06:09] <Cannon> !dual monitor
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <Kr|ptiX> hi im still haven problem tryn to non ecrypted routers when tryn to connect i get to 28% then it doesnt work ican connect to my wpa but  when goin to my friends  house i cant  connect to his router witch doesnt have an encryption code
[06:40] <cannon> morning all
[06:40] <cannon> does anybody have experience setting up dual monitor support?
[06:41] <ere4si> what's the vid card cannon ?
[06:41] <cannon> nvidia
[06:41] <cannon> i've done a fresh install and enabled the restricted driver
[06:42] <ere4si> nvidia...?
[06:42] <cannon> and opened nvidia x server settings
[06:42] <ere4si> which?
[06:42] <cannon> last time I tried last night my os wouldn't boot the gui
[06:42] <cannon> 8800 ere4si
[06:42] <cannon> the sexy one :P
[06:43] <ere4si> that might be too new just yet from what I've read - one min
[06:43] <cannon> k
[06:43] <cannon> lol, i've had it over a year :P
[06:44] <ere4si> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html - cannon
[06:45] <EightiesK> hey
[06:45] <cannon> ta
[06:48] <cannon> whats an alternative to gedit
[06:48] <EightiesK> kate
[06:48] <cannon> k
[06:49] <cannon> so sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf would work?
[06:49] <ere4si> y
[06:49] <cannon> ta
[06:49] <ere4si> :)
[06:49] <cannon> am a noob :)
[06:49] <cannon> very new to linux
[06:49] <cannon> and had to reinstall yesterday because I broke it trying to configure my monitors
[06:49] <ere4si> everyone was once :)
[06:50] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:50] <cannon> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:50] <cannon> Error: "/tmp/kde-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:50] <cannon> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:50] <cannon> is that an issue or can I ignore it?
[06:50] <ere4si> did the file open?
[06:51] <jussi01> cannon: ignore it :)
[06:51] <jussi01> cannon: also never use sudo with graphic apps
[06:51] <jussi01> !kdesudo | cannon
[06:51] <ubotu> cannon: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[07:03] <Cannon> looks like am not gonna get dual monitor support
[07:04] <Cannon> by just installing nvidia-settings my gui won't load
[07:05] <jussi01> !dualhead | Cannon, have you seen this?
[07:05] <ubotu> Cannon, have you seen this?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:07] <Cannon> do you use it jussi01?
[07:07] <jussi01> Cannon: I do, but with ati
[07:08] <Cannon> k
[07:08] <Cannon> you use chromium?
[07:09] <jussi01> chromium??
[07:10] <Cannon> XFree86 supports different types of MultiHead, see using multiple monitors with XFree86.
[07:10] <Cannon> Example implementation of distributed MultiHead is DMX and something similar but then with 3d/openGL graphics is Chromium
[07:10] <Cannon> don't ya need the one with 3d capability?
[07:11] <haf> hello, I can#t update my Kubuntu 7.10, I have to use a proxy server to connect to the internet, it is set correctly in the system settings, surfing with Konqueror and IRC for instance are working but adept and apt-get both hang at the first package list file
[07:11] <jussi01> !apt-proxy
[07:11] <ubotu> apt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[07:11] <jussi01> hmmm
[07:12] <haf> I don#t think apt-proxy is what I need - in the past it worked with Ubuntu Gnome flavour and the global proxy settings
[07:13] <Cannon> brb
[07:13] <jussi01> haf: see this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386524
[07:15] <haf> apt-get works with the environment variable, weird though that the proxy server set in the system settings is not used by all applications
[07:16] <haf> thanks, not the best solution, but updating works this way
[07:16] <jussi01> haf: yeah, it is weird.
[07:16] <jussi01> great :)
[07:18] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  i am haveing ssome major problems intslling kde4
[07:18] <jussi01> !ask | arkygeek
[07:18] <ubotu> arkygeek: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:18] <arkygeek> $ uname -r  ==  2.6.22-14-generic
[07:19] <arkygeek> jussi01: heh - give me a chance ;-) :P
[07:19] <jussi01> :P
[07:19] <arkygeek> what is happening is i am getting broken packages.
[07:19] <arkygeek> specifically, they are:
[07:19] <jussi01> arkygeek: ok, do you have any extra repos?
[07:20] <arkygeek> http://rafb.net/p/heC0xP22.html
[07:20] <jussi01> arkygeek: ahh, just read more carefully, kde4. you will need to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[07:22] <arkygeek> my sources.list is here: http://rafb.net/p/0NOt1J44.html
[07:22] <arkygeek> jussi01: ahhhh ok, sorry
[07:29] <noisekiller> jussi01: What do I type to get init.d/networks to restart befor logon?
[07:29] <jussi01> noisekiller: Im not sure
[07:30] <vestige> hi all
[07:31] <vestige> I wanna know where could I find the souce code of libusb-dev ?
[07:31] <vestige> I need to cross-compile to arm-architecture
[07:32] <noisekiller> jussi01: Yea you do .. But you're not in the mood..;)
[07:33] <Tm_T> noisekiller: awww
[07:33] <vignesh> im using kde 3.5.8 ... how do i change the default program which opens my php files..?? it opens with gphpedit now.. i wanna change blufish editor ..
[07:33] <jussi01> vestige: packages.ubuntu.co
[07:34] <cannon> hey, does anybody know this theme? >>> http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm9AmrZl.html
[07:34] <jussi01> vignesh: right click the file, click properties, click the spanner
[07:35] <jussi01> vestige: that should be .com on the end
[07:35] <vignesh> jussi01, thanks.. i got it..
[07:35] <vestige> I look through the url
[07:36] <vestige> there's only libs and doc in the package
[07:36] <vestige> where's the source .c .h files?
[07:36] <jussi01> vestige: did you download the tar or the deb?
[07:36] <cyferactive> heyall
[07:36] <cyferactive> are there any brits here?
[07:37] <vestige> I've downloaded the .deb package
[07:37] <jussi01> !uk
[07:37] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[07:37] <jussi01> vestige: no, you need the tar
[07:37] <cyferactive> cool
[07:37] <jussi01> vestige: the deb is a precompiled package for ubuntu
[07:37] <vestige> So I need to download the tar package?
[07:38] <vignesh> vestige, yes
[07:38] <cyferactive> How can i use my nickname in the other irc sources. ie aim etc?
[07:38] <vignesh> !uk
[07:38] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[07:38] <origami> how do I change KDE default encoding?
[07:38] <jussi01> !locales | origami
[07:39] <ubotu> origami: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:39] <origami> thanks
[07:40] <cyferactive> can anyone tell me how to use my existing nickname in ubuntu IRC???
[07:42] <jussi01> cyferactive: /nick newnick
[07:43] <cyferactive> what does that mean?
[07:44] <cyferactive> what does /nick newnick mean??
[07:44] <]vignesh[> cyferactive, type that in ur normal chat box.. /nick newnickname
[07:44] <khelll> how to generate a public key
[07:44] <cyferactive> where is the chat box?
[07:44] <]vignesh[> cyferactive, where u type now..
[07:45] <cyferactive> what does it do?
[07:45] <]vignesh[> cyferactive, changes ur nickname to newnickname in the current IRC
[07:46] <cyferactive> so i need to enter a new irc source and enter /nick new nickname???
[07:47] <]vignesh[> no.. jus type it where u r typin these chat msgs..
[07:48] <cyferactive> but how will that let me use my name in another chat source???
[07:52] <cyferactive> what would happen if i wrote /nick newnickname. like viges, told me too??
[07:54] <spencer> lo
[07:54] <cannon> hi
[07:54] <spencer> how are you?
[07:55] <cannon> not too shabby, you?
[07:55] <cyferactive> spencer. can u help me with something?
[07:55] <spencer> doin good... what cyfer?
[07:56] <cyferactive> How can i use my existing nickname in diffrent chat sources eg ubuntu IRC. Im a brand newbie???
[07:57] <spencer> not sure, I am a noob as well, just got kubuntu, and noticed my normal ubuntu had new programs, this irc was one of em
[07:57] <spencer> sry i can't be of more assistance
[07:57] <cyferactive> ya must of installe kubuntu-desktop somehow...
[07:58] <cyferactive> no probs..
[07:58] <cannon> one of the things I like about this place is peeps arn't afraid to admint to being noob :P
[07:58] <Jucato> what do you mean by "chat sources"? you can use your nick in the #ubuntu channel.
[07:59] <Jucato> this (#kubuntu) and #ubuntu are called IRC "channels" or "rooms"
[07:59] <cyferactive> but it doesnt seem to work.
[07:59] <Jucato> how doesn't it seem to work? and what is your existing nickname?
[07:59] <spencer> ya, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, just wasn't expecting these programs
[08:00] <cyferactive> I get aload of brown text
[08:00] <Jucato> what do they say? (hint: we can't read what's going on your computer :D)
[08:00] <cyferactive> spencer you can doo the same with xubuntu-desktop and get all xubuntu's packasges aswell
[08:01] <cyferactive> (error) unknown command
[08:01] <Jucato> cyferactive: what are you typing?
[08:01] <spencer> ehh, not really looking for xubuntu, but thanks
[08:01] <Jucato> /nick nickname
[08:01] <cyferactive> anythin. eg hello
[08:02] <Jucato> cyferactive: there is no /hello command
[08:02] <Jucato> you have to type /nick nickname
[08:02] <Jucato> substitute nickname with the name that you want
[08:03] <Jucato> the command is /nick and you give it a nickname you want to change to
[08:03] <cyferactive> what exactly is ubuntu IRC for then. when u say command?
[08:03] <spencer> it is the server
[08:03] <spencer> we are in a channel of server
[08:03] <Jucato> IRC means Internet Relay Chat, more commonly known as "chat"... this is a "chatroom".
[08:03] <cyferactive> so not a chat room. apologies for my complete ignornace.
[08:04] <spencer> ehh, i didn't know at first, just figured out about a minute ago
[08:04] <Jucato> "Ubuntu IRC" is the server where Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc) chatrooms are located
[08:04] <cyferactive> this might as well be chinese
[08:04] <cyferactive> oh o.k. so what is
[08:04] <Jucato> ok so let's start from the very *very* beginning. what do you want to do?
[08:05] <jussi01> cyferactive: there is an IRC tutorial here: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[08:05] <cyferactive> jucato. thanx for your help. I just would like to know what is the diffrence betwee ubuntu IRC and #kubuntu....
[08:06] <cyferactive> thanx jussi01. just the job.
[08:06] <jussi01> :)
[08:06] <Jucato> cyferactive: "Ubuntu IRC" is the server... #kubuntu is a channel/room for Kubuntu that is on the Ubuntu IRC server
[08:06] <Jucato> cyferactive: think of "Ubuntu IRC" as a house, and #kubuntu, as well as #ubuntu, #xubuntu, and others are rooms inside that house
[08:07] <jussi01> cyferactive: you know yahoo chat? ubuntu irc is like yahoo, and #kubuntu is like one of the rooms you can go in
[08:07] <Jucato> so #kubuntu is the room for Kubuntu. #ubuntu is the room for Ubuntu
[08:07] <cyferactive> I have just seen the daylight. jucato, has just opened the curtains. LOL. thanx mate...
[08:09] <Jucato> the things a bowl of yakisoba and a tall glass of Sprite can do :)
[08:09]  * Jucato now turns off the bulb on top of cyferactive's head
[08:10] <cyferactive> O.K so  I need to register a diffrent user name for say the yahoo chat source. theres no way i can export my existing user name to yahho chat IRC?
[08:10] <cyferactive> ha ha. well you cant blame me for trying...
[08:11] <Jucato> no. yahoo chat and IRC are two very different things.
[08:11] <jussi01> !register | cyferactive
[08:11] <ubotu> cyferactive: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[08:11] <Jucato> there is no relation between them except in concept
[08:12] <crazyhead> i read that, still not sure on registration
[08:13] <Jucato> crazyhead: please refrain from changing nicks too often
[08:14] <Jucato> crazyhead: what aren't you sure about registration?
[08:14] <gysel> hello
[08:14] <cyferactive> I want to keep the same nickname for consistency reasons. but in the help docs theres not much info about how to use your existing nickname in all chat sources..
[08:15] <crazyhead> hmm
[08:15] <crazyhead> Im not sure how to register
[08:16] <Jucato> cyferactive: what do you mean by "chat sources"? you keep on using that term and I have no idea what you're trying to say
[08:17] <wildbill410> crazyhead: read this http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[08:18] <cyferactive> sorry you know  do u know when u first open KOPETE. u get a choice of diffrent places to use as an IRC eg yahoo, msn pidgin, etc, etc,
[08:19] <Jucato> Kopete calls them "Accounts". ok here's the thing. Kopete is what you call a "multi-protocol" program. it can do Yahoo, MSN, IRC, etc.
[08:19] <cyferactive> sorry again jucato. i've not been using IRC for my  full first hour yet
[08:19] <Jucato> it's ok. just a few clarifications are in order
[08:19] <Jucato> again using the house analogy :P
[08:21] <Jucato> IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is like a neighborhood of servers. Ubuntu IRC (an IRC server) is one house in the neighborhood. Now, Yahoo, MSN, AIM, ICQ, and others are different neighborhoods. Each neighborhood have different rules, including rules on what nick you can or must use
[08:22] <Jucato> in most cases, like Yahoo and MSN, you can't change your nickname freely. you have to use your account name as your nickname
[08:22] <cyferactive> got ya...
[08:22] <Jucato> in IRC, you can use any nick as long as no one else owns them and they are appropriate for the house/server (no lewd nicks)
[08:23] <cyferactive> o.k i understand.
[08:23] <Jucato> so it's not always possible to keep the same nick across accounts (your "chat sources"). that depends on the type of account
[08:24] <cyferactive> i must admit the initial sighning in to the diffrent accounts, are not the simplest of procedures
[08:25] <cyferactive> But thank you. you have clarified some fundamentle poimts...
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[08:25] <Jucato> glad I could help.
[08:26] <Jucato> me, I keep IM (Instant Messaging, the type of communication that Yahoo, MSN, AIM,etc. do) and IRC different. I use Kopete for IM, and Konversation for IRC
[08:26] <cannon> !compiz
[08:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:27] <cyferactive> is there a way to save this text?
[08:28] <wildbill410> copy and paste into a text file.
[08:28] <cyferactive> good point... wow i need some sleeeeeeep
[08:28] <cyferactive> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:30] <cyferactive> jucato why does quite alot of text show up when i hover over my name in the panel on the right. but other names only show the persons nickname???
[08:31] <Jucato> cyferactive: can't answer that one. I'm not using Kopete for IRC
[08:31] <jussi01> !tab | cyferactive
[08:31] <ubotu> cyferactive: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:33]  * emilsedgh uses kopete for irc and is really happy with it
[08:37] <cyferactive> Im leaving now. So i would like to thank you all for your help. Especialy <jucato> Bye...
[08:38] <Jucato> emilsedgh: I guess you don't use IRC logs that much :)
[08:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: hm, sometimes i search through them (yeah, thats really slow), but nothing else
[08:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: is there any full-log available from this channel?
[08:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: take a look at this: http://tinyurl.com/yvm8pk
[08:40] <emilsedgh> Jucato: having such thing would be cool
[08:40] <Jucato> yeah. coz if you tried to do more from Kopete's logs, I think you'll be less happy :)
[08:40] <Jucato> I think there are logs
[08:40] <Jucato> irc stats too. just don't know where they are
[08:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: that thing is really cool, take a look.that program could create such stats from logs
[08:41] <emilsedgh> hm
[08:41] <Jucato> *buntu has something similar
[08:42] <Jucato> at least there was.. dunno right now anymore
[08:55] <arkygeek> hi
[08:55] <arkygeek> jussi01: hi again
[08:55] <arkygeek> jussi01: i have a problem... purging the gnome stuff has left me unable to connect to my wpa wifi
[08:56] <arkygeek> wpa-supplicant is installed, but I cannot seem to get any option for wpa in knetworkmanager
[09:05] <cannon> anybody tried the snow globe plugin for compiz?
[10:23] <jesus> .
[10:25] <cannon> what are the msn messengers for linux?
[10:25] <cannon> i forgot
[10:26] <cannon> amsn crashed on me last time
[10:32] <cannon> i just heard a funny joke ... whats so good about 22 year old girls ... wood is never wasted
[11:01] <mauro> Hi, I cannot configure demuxer to use xine. Anybody could help me?
[11:06] <mauro> Anybody have a good link to configure kaffeine or kmpalyer or xine?
[11:09] <clau30> mauro: what do you need to configure?
[11:10] <mauro> well I install kubuntu
[11:10] <mauro> and want to see some avi files
[11:10] <mauro> when I execute xine
[11:11] <mauro> it say that need demuxer plugin
[11:11] <arkygeek> hi.  where do i go totalk about hardy?
[11:12] <clau30> mauro: hmm.. make sure you have all the decoders installed
[11:12] <Jucato> arkygeek: #ubuntu+1
[11:12] <arkygeek> Jucato: thx dude.
[11:14] <mauro> arkygeek: well I had installed libxine-extracodecs
[11:15] <mauro> arkygeek: I read that have demuxer
[11:15] <mauro> arkygeek: but I have not luck
[11:16] <arkygeek> mauro: you talking to someone else?
[11:16] <clau30> mauro: have you tried other players, like mplayer?
[11:16] <mauro> arkygeek: Oops sorry
[11:17] <arkygeek> mauro: ;-)
[11:17] <mauro> :D
[11:17] <mauro> clau30: yes I test mplayer
[11:17] <Jarlaxle> hi all
[11:18] <mauro> clau30:  maybe i need reboot :(
[11:18] <mauro> clau30: like windows :D
[11:18] <clau30> mauro: I don't thinkr reboot would help
[11:18] <clau30> mauro: I hate windows ;)
[11:19] <Jarlaxle> Can anyone help me? After compiz removing all windows shown without borders and caption. What should I do? o.O
[11:20] <clau30> restart kde?
[11:20] <mauro> ok
[11:20] <Jarlaxle> don't work :)
[11:21] <mauro> clau30: ok i will do it
[11:21] <clau30> mauro: I didn't ment you
[11:21] <spiroo> Is it possible to upgrade to Hardy in Gutsy without LiveCD?
[11:23] <ShishKabab> Hello! Could someone please help me with a package management problem?
[11:23] <clau30> spiroo: yes, through adept..
[11:23] <clau30> ShishKabab: ask
[11:23] <spiroo> clau30: How?
[11:24] <ShishKabab> Ok... I used aptitude :) I'm a webdeveloper and suddenly libapache2-mod-php5 was gone....
[11:25] <ShishKabab> After that I tried to just remove apache and PHP
[11:25] <clau30> asobi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589102
[11:25] <clau30> asobi: google is your friend :)
[11:25] <clau30> asobi: so, update-manager -d
[11:25] <clau30> i guess
[11:25] <ShishKabab> Ok :) I'll try
[11:25] <clau30> not you ShishKabab
[11:26] <ShishKabab> O :)
[11:26] <spiroo> I am spiroo btw ;)
[11:26] <ShishKabab> spiroo: So I tried to remove Apache and PHP
[11:26] <Fujisan> hello
[11:26] <Fujisan> nalioth
[11:26] <Fujisan> D:
[11:27] <spiroo> lol everyone is mix each other up :P
[11:27] <Fujisan> children play in the park they dont i am alone in the dark even tho time and time again i see your face smiling inside i am so happy that you love me
[11:27] <ShishKabab> siroo: By issueing "sudo aptitude purge apache2 php5 php5-gd php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5"
[11:27] <Jucato> Fujisan: hmm?
[11:28] <ShishKabab> spiroo: When I did that subversion was suddenly gone!
[11:28] <Fujisan> life is lovely when you are near me tell me u will stay make smile life is just a game so they say we may now enjoy share the dreams feel the magic when i hold you cries me tears of joy touch the sky
[11:28] <Fujisan> :(
[11:28] <Fujisan> sorry i need help
[11:28] <ShishKabab> spiroo: And it gets weirder
[11:28] <Fujisan> for konsole
[11:28] <Jucato> stop spamming then
[11:29] <Fujisan> Jucato when i am in Konsole trying to use a search function in mp3blaster the notification bell blocks me from typing
[11:29] <Fujisan> i dont know what is causing it
[11:29] <Fujisan> its the notification of Konsole
[11:29] <Fujisan> i have no clue
[11:29] <spiroo> ShishKabab: Do not talk with me, I do not know
[11:29] <Fujisan> what it might be
[11:30] <ShishKabab> Then I try "sudo aptitude install apache2 php5 php5-gd php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5" and it wants to delete my whole KDE4 installation!
[11:30] <ShishKabab> spiroo: Sorry :)
[11:30] <spiroo> No problem
[11:30] <Jucato> Fujisan: it's the other way around. the notification bell sounds when you're trying to type where you're not supposed to or not allowed to, or if you entered wrong characters.
[11:30] <Jucato> but I'm not familiar with mp3blaster or how it works
[11:31] <ShishKabab> I ahem.... I should talk to clau30 :)
[11:31] <Fujisan> man mp3blaster said i should type "/" and then search whenever i do it i see the search and when i type the notification bell starts
[11:31] <Fujisan> any useful info please Jucato
[11:31] <Fujisan> its something with Konsole
[11:31] <Fujisan> not the app
[11:31] <Fujisan> dont give me that treatment
[11:31] <Fujisan> :(
[11:32] <Mad_Celt> it's definetly not konsole)
[11:32] <ShishKabab> clau30: Sorry for mixing up everyone... You still with me?
[11:32]  * willis_ wakes up
[11:33] <dergringo> Hey. Will we get that tool on Kubuntu too? http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/display-config-1
[11:33] <Jarlaxle> Hmm, a resolve my problem: metacity --replace
[11:33] <Jarlaxle> thanks to all
[11:34] <Fujisan> wow great help
[11:34] <Fujisan> :(
[11:34] <Jucato> !patience | Fujisan
[11:35] <ubotu> Fujisan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:35] <AQ_LIVE> If I get a lot of errors when I try to get programs like Emesene (MSN clone) could it then be my Kubuntu installation that is somhow curupted?
[11:35] <Jucato> AQ_LIVE: depends on how you're trying to get the program and what the errors are
[11:35] <AQ_LIVE> I get errors about that it cn't run without something else
[11:36] <AQ_LIVE> I know that's not a problem because the program is platform independent
[11:36] <Fujisan> ubotu have you ever seen the movie pay it forward the volunteers get the freedom to help others and they come here to pay it forward but i am not being paid by help which blames something which isnt at fault
[11:36] <spiroo> Wondering, I know there is no support for Hardy just wonder. I wondering the wubi package for Windows. After I installed it, the OS does not appear when I boot. Maybe I did forgot to update grub :P Well I wondering, is it not possible to install it on a free partition or overwrite another GNU/Linux dist.
[11:36] <Fujisan> lol
[11:36] <spiroo> After I installed Hardy inside Wubi I mean ,)
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <spiroo> ubuntu+1? Not kubuntu?
[11:38] <AQ_LIVE> what is the URL for this cahnnel
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: nope..... at that stage it pretty much all the same
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> and there are kubuntu users too
[11:38] <Jucato> Fujisan: do you even have any files on the main mp3blaster screen? did you select files first and added them to the list in the main screen?
[11:39] <spiroo> Ah okey, well I give it a try. Thanks nosrednaekim
[11:39] <Jucato> AQ_LIVE: can you please use pastebin to show what the exact errors are?
[11:40] <AQ_LIVE> I'm not at my computer right now but I will do wehn I get there
[11:41] <Jucato> Fujisan: Search "/" doesn't work when there is no list of files in screen. so Konsole beeps, because it doesn't work. it's not Konsole, it's mp3blaster
[11:42] <Fujisan> i see Search and then i try to type and it dissappears
 Fujisan: do you even have any files on the main mp3blaster screen? did you select files first and added them to the list in the main screen? <---- You're supposed to load a list of files first or go to a directory where there are files. *THEN* Search will work
[11:42] <Fujisan> yep i have a list
[11:43] <Fujisan> cuz i will see search and sometimes i get one letter through
[11:43] <Fujisan> and then it dissappears really fast
[11:44] <Fujisan> so thats why i thought its Konsole
[11:44] <Fujisan> something with keybindings perhaps
[11:44] <Jucato> │START SEARCH Starts search mode: In this mode, the scrollbar in the main window will jump to the first song it finds starting with the characters that you enter after starting file search. File search ends when you don't type any characters for a few seconds, or when enter is pressed. Please note that this search is case-sensitive
[11:44] <Fujisan> yeah i have read all that
[11:44] <Fujisan> my version must be bugged
[11:47] <Jucato> unless you're pressing Ctrl, Alt, Shift or Win keys while typing, then it can't be keybindings
[11:48] <mauro> clau30: well I reinit kde but i haven luck with demux plugin,
[11:48] <mauro> clau30: thanks a lot for your help
[11:49] <mauro> clau30: i go for cafe, cheers!
[12:25] <cannon> hey all
[12:26] <ere4si> on twin monitors cannon ?
[12:26] <cannon> lol, no
[12:26] <cannon> i give up on that
[12:26] <cannon> i found that just installing the nvidia-settings package goosed my os
[12:26] <cannon> even restoring the xorg.conf didn't help
[12:28] <cannon> whats that instant messaging app for all platforms: msn, gmail, yahoo, etc?
[12:28] <cannon> penguin or something like that?
[12:28] <ere4si> cannon, time for  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the recovery kernel then
[12:28] <Jucato> Kopete (KDE) or Pidgin (GTK/GNOME)
[12:28] <ere4si> pidgin?
[12:28] <cannon> thats the one :P
[12:28] <cannon> kopete never worked for me
[12:28] <cannon> even out of the box
[12:28] <cannon> or the installation cd
[12:28] <cannon> always crashed
[12:29] <Jucato> with MSN?
[12:30] <Jucato> there's a bug with Kopete crashing when using MSN. it's fixed in an update. so of course the installer and an out of the box install won't have this update yet
[12:31] <cannon> well even after upgrading I still got the error
[12:34] <cannon> hmmm, i installed the pidgin client and it's not showing in my k menu
[12:35] <Jucato> K Menu -> Internet -> ?
[12:35] <Jucato> press Alt+F2, run "kbuildsycoca" and check again
[12:36]  * jussi01 hides from Jucatos @
[12:36] <Jucato> :P
[12:36] <Jucato> I forgot sorry
[12:36] <jussi01> hehe
[12:38] <cannon> hey jussi01
[12:38] <jussi01> hi cannon
[12:38] <StyleSheeep> blök
[12:38] <cannon> thats handy
[12:38] <cannon> kbuildsycoca
[12:39] <cannon> how do you remember all this stuff? lol
[12:39] <ForsakenSoul> hi can someone help me a bit with samba i have a little problem
[12:40] <jussi01> !ask | ForsakenSoul
[12:40] <ubotu> ForsakenSoul: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:40] <Jucato> cannon: force of habit :)
[12:41] <Jucato> having run that command a couple of times, and telling people to run that a couple more times, it becomes natural :)
[12:41] <JasonWard> Hi. I have a C program which uses SDL.h but says that it can't find it. yet I have SDL installed. whats up?
[12:42] <ForsakenSoul> :D ok ... i've shared all the contents from my pc i need .... made them browsable, public read-only ... made the security level to share .. When I try to access it maps the drives i've shared but can't enter them it says there is no folder found
[12:42] <Riddell> ** beta candidates testers needed, kubuntu 20080318.1 up
[12:42] <ForsakenSoul> any idea what setting might be wrong
[12:43] <cannon> !screenlets
[12:43] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[12:43] <Jucato> JasonWard: you need libsdl1.2-dev
[12:44] <JasonWard> thanks
[12:44] <flipstar> Riddell: for installation or live cd  test ?
[12:44] <flipstar> oh okay..wait there are just a alternate installer
[12:44] <Jucato> JasonWard: hint: if you're compiling something and it complains about missing headers, look for a related package with a -dev in the name
[12:44] <Jucato> bah...
[12:44]  * jussi01 hugs Jucato 
[12:44] <Riddell> flipstar: everything!
[12:45] <Riddell> flipstar: daily/ has the alternates, daily-live/ has the desktops
[12:45] <flipstar> cool, i will check up the desktop then :)
[12:46] <ForsakenSoul> some help please :  i've shared all the contents from my pc i need .... made them browsable, public read-only ... made the security level to share .. When I try to access it maps the drives i've shared but can't enter them it says there is no folder found
[12:53] <cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ deb http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu gutsy screenlets
[12:53] <cannon> bash: deb: command not found
[12:53] <cannon> whats the kde version of deb pls?
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> erm
[12:53] <flipstar> you have to add this into sources.list i guess
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> that's not a command
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> you have to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <cannon> how?
[12:54] <flipstar> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list then copy&paste
[12:55] <flipstar> or just use adept_manager
[12:56] <cannon> how do I do with adept?
[12:57] <cannon> i think I have found it
[12:58] <cannon> http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/screenlets/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:58] <ForsakenSoul>  some help please :  i've shared all the contents from my pc i need .... made them browsable, public read-only ... made the security level to share .. When I try to access it maps the drives i've shared but can't enter them it says there is no folder found
[12:59] <cannon> flipstar: W: GPG error: http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3C33E735F854AFD7 ... any ideas
[13:00] <flipstar> you probably didnt add the gpg key to yours
[13:00] <flipstar> if there is one..
[13:00] <flipstar> if not just ignore
[13:02] <cannon> it never asked for one
[13:03] <flipstar> there should be a command on the website
[13:03] <cannon> http://compiz.org/Desktop_Screenlets
[13:03] <cannon> thats what am trying to install
[13:03] <JasonWard> Hi. rm removes a file completely. how do I remove a file and have it placed in the recyle bin?
[13:04] <JasonWard> what is the linux equivalent of the windows .bat file?
[13:04] <flipstar> cannon: search for something like wget -q <whatever>.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[13:04] <flipstar> JasonWard: an shell script.. .sh
[13:05] <cannon> flipstar: wget http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu/hendrikkaju.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update <<< i get an error ... shoud it go in terminal or package manager (repositories)
[13:05] <flipstar> JasonWard: you can move to Trash with mv
[13:05] <flipstar> cannon: terminal
[13:05] <cannon> !paste
[13:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:06] <flipstar> JasonWard: that would be the commandline way..right click delete also works
[13:06] <flipstar> cannon: just look at the topic :)
[13:06] <flipstar> brb booting daily live
[13:07] <cannon> lol, i did look but am getting errors
[13:07] <cannon> flipstar: http://pastebin.com/m7a61925e
[13:07] <cannon> clear
[13:07] <cannon> oops
[13:08] <JasonWard> I tried,   mv jason.txt Trash
[13:09] <ere4si> cannon, I think their server is down
[13:09] <JasonWard> it just makes a new file called Trash
[13:09] <cannon> ah, ok
[13:10] <drarem> what's the best way to reinstall kde4
[13:10] <ShishKabab> JasonWard: The trashcan is located at ~/.local/share/Thrash/files/
[13:10] <ere4si> drarem, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:11] <drarem> ty
[13:12] <ShishKabab> JasonWard: But when you move it there, you can't restore it. You can only move it back.
[13:13] <ShishKabab> Could someone please help me with a package management problem?
[13:15] <ShishKabab> JasonWard: Can you find it?
[13:18] <JasonWard> ShishKabab:  one sec
[13:19] <JasonWard> ShishKabab: no I can't
[13:20] <Jucato> JasonWard: the command line is not aware of Trash cans, which are a desktop (GUI) feature. so rm really and irreversible (in most cases) deletes a file. you can try mv (moving) the file to the location that ShishKabab gave
[13:20] <JasonWard> Jucato: I tried that but my Desktop trashcan cant find it
[13:21] <Jucato> JasonWard: where did you move the file?
[13:21] <JasonWard> ~/.local/share/Thrash/files/
[13:21] <JasonWard> ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[13:22] <Jucato> right... I think there needs to be another entry in ~/.local/share/Trash/info/
[13:22] <Jucato> so that might not work after all
[13:23] <ShishKabab> JasonWard: I was mistaken. You can't do that.
[13:23] <JasonWard> so how do I?
[13:23] <ShishKabab> Via the GUI
[13:24] <Jucato> basically, once you rm something, it's lost
[13:24] <Jucato> (depending on the filesystem though... I think ext2 has/had an undelete feature...)
[13:25] <flipstar_daily_l> the file itself still exists but the information about the file is lost
[13:25] <JasonWard> ShishKabab: I know the GUI method. its coz I want to remove all *.o files in a directory but I suppose I will have to just mv the somewhere else
[13:26] <ForsakenSoul>  some help please :  i've shared all the contents from my pc i need .... made them browsable, public read-only ... made the security level to share .. When I try to access it maps the drives i've shared but can't enter them it says there is no folder found
[13:26] <flipstar_daily_l> JasonWard: you can also filter fo .o in konqueror using the search
[13:26]  * Jucato nods
[13:27] <Jucato> JasonWard: in the upper right corner of konqueror in file management mode (where the google search bar is locate), you can type .o
[13:28] <Jucato> (I think there's something similar in Dolphin)
[13:28] <ShishKabab> Jucato: How do you do stuff like "Jucato nods". I'm new to IRC :)
[13:28] <neville_>  /me actions here
[13:28] <Jucato> /me action
[13:29] <ForsakenSoul> isnt it with \
[13:29] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[13:29] <ForsakenSoul> \me happy
[13:29] <neville_> haha
[13:29] <neville_> :P
[13:29] <Jucato> does it work? :)
[13:29] <ShishKabab> \me is amazed
[13:29] <ShishKabab> Huh?
[13:29] <Jucato> ShishKabab: / not \
[13:29] <ForsakenSoul> nope :D
[13:29] <ShishKabab> Aha
[13:29]  * ShishKabab is amazed
[13:29]  * Jucato thinks someone wasn't reading carefully :)
[13:29] <ForsakenSoul> jucato forgot a bit of my old days in the irc :D
[13:29] <ShishKabab> Aha! Thnx!
[13:30]  * Colonel_Panic type like caveman
[13:30]  * Colonel_Panic not know good grammar skills
[13:30] <ShishKabab> Hey.... Does anyone here use PHP for development?
[13:31] <JasonWard> ah yes. thats a good idea. newbie mistake
[13:31] <JasonWard> thanks a lot
[13:32] <ShishKabab> Because today libapache2-mod-php5 deinstalled itself for the second time
[13:33] <jpatrick> Beta CDs up for testing: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[13:33] <ShishKabab> Anyone know what might have caused this
[13:34] <ShishKabab> jpatcrick: Will Kubuntu 8.04 have PulseAudio?
[13:35] <Jucato> not unless PulseAudio integrates with KDE I guess
[13:35] <Jucato> (or the other way around)
[13:35] <ShishKabab> Mmm... That sucks, I was really looking forward to that
[13:36] <ShishKabab> And is there any KDE equivallant?
[13:36] <zimon> arts
[13:37] <ShishKabab> Ok... It has all those features of PulseAudio?
[13:37] <flipstar_daily_l> jpatrick: is there a difference between beta cd and 20080318.1 (the daily) ?
[13:38] <jpatrick> flipstar_daily_l: samen
[13:38] <jpatrick> same*
[13:38] <jpatrick> flipstar_daily_l: please tell us how it wen in #kubuntu-testers :)
[13:40] <zimon> ShishKabab: probably not .. but you can use pulseaudio with kde if you really want to.
[13:42] <ShishKabab> zimon: Ok... The main thing is that I'm getting a dolby surround set and I would like Skype to use the front boxes while my music plays in the background. I was told that PulseAudio could do that
[13:42] <Jucato> ShishKabab: KDE 3 has/had aRts. but KDE 4 uses Phonon, where you can use any supported backend (xine, gstreamer, etc)
[13:43] <sobersabre> hi.
[13:43] <ShishKabab> zimon: Nice
[13:43] <sobersabre> is the place to ask questions about the CD images of Hardy Heron are in here or in #kubuntu+1 ?
[13:44] <zimon> ShishKabab: well ... i can't tell you whether that works and how to set it up. see http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup for kde + pulse
[13:45] <ShishKabab> zimon: Ok... Thnx
[13:48] <flipstar_daily_l> sobersabre: #ubuntu+1
[13:48] <jpatrick> flipstar_daily_l: he tried there
[13:49] <jpatrick> sobersabre: #kubuntu-devel
[13:56]  * Tw|sT coughs
[14:11] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[14:12] <jussio1> hi
[14:12] <leo_rockw> i have question regarding kcron. i want to perform a task every X minutes but apparently kcron only allows me to set up a fixed time. is there a way to accomplish what i want?
[14:16] <flipstar_daily_l> kcrons maximum is about every 5 minutes
[14:17] <leo_rockw> flipstar_daily_l: i want to set it to 30 min but i can't figure out how to do it.
[14:18] <jussio1> leo_rockw: just set it to every hour, 0 and 30 min
[14:18] <jussio1> use the set all button
[14:19] <leo_rockw> jussio1: i feel like a [censored by the CoC] now... lol
[14:19] <leo_rockw> jussio1: thanks for your help.
[14:19] <jussio1> no probs :)
[14:19] <Jucato> lol @ [censored by the CoC]
[14:21] <lovre> hi all
[14:21] <lovre> is there a way i can monitor my cpu and gpu temperature in kubuntu?
[14:21] <flipstar_daily_l> gkrellm can do this
[14:22] <flipstar_daily_l> using nvclock
[14:30] <cannon> does anybody know why my firefox keeps freezing?
[14:31] <leo_rockw> cannon: are you watching flash content when that happens?
[14:32] <cannon> possibly
[14:32] <cannon> manutd.com is the site
[14:32] <cannon> also youtube vids don't load at all
[14:32] <cannon> they did on my previous installation
[14:33] <ere4si> cannon: installed the shockwave flash plugin?
[14:33] <cannon> i haven't installed the one that ff provile as I dunno how to
[14:33] <cannon> but I have installed the ones in the package manager i think
[14:34] <leo_rockw> cannon: i don't see any flash content on that page... (i'm using konq, btw)
[14:34] <leo_rockw> cannon: something else might be causing the freeze.
[14:34] <wesley> !adeptfix
[14:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:37] <cannon> ugh, pc froze .. i missed the last 2 comments
[14:38] <clau30> [15:37] <-- cannon hat den Server verlassen (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
[14:38] <clau30> [15:37] --> cannon hat den Kanal betreten (n=cannon@87-194-247-182.bethere.co.uk).
[14:38] <clau30> cannon: so nothing happened :D
[14:39] <cannon> no someting about my broswer freezing when I view flash
[14:39] <clau30> darn flash under linux
[14:39] <ere4si> cannon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7 - try the shockwave plugin first
[14:39] <toti_> Any C++ developer here?
[14:40] <leo_rockw> cannon: that site you told us about didn't have flash
[14:41] <Jucato> toti_: ##c++ would have some
[14:43] <toti_> I got some problems with Sockets. By using listen() I'm always getting the value 0. That would mean there is a incoming connection. But there isn't
[14:43] <cannon> hey ere4si ... i have dl'd to desktop and opened in archive
[14:44] <cannon> it has an .installer and a .so
[14:44] <cannon> whats the .so for?
[14:44] <cannon> i have no idea how to run this
[14:46] <Jucato> .so == Linux form of Windows DLL's... (iirc)
[14:46] <Jucato> a.k.a. libraries
[14:46] <cannon> k
[14:46] <cannon> so how do I install it?
[14:46] <cannon> or run it
[14:46] <Jucato> umm. you don't?
[14:46] <ere4si> cannon: when I've used that it installed and I only had to restart firefox - what os are you on
[14:46] <cannon> kubuntu
[14:46] <Fujisan> can anyone help me please i am looking for a text based webbrowser for preferably to run in Konsole
[14:47] <neville_> Fujisan Lynx?
[14:47] <ere4si> cannon: kubuntu 64 or 32 , gutsy or feisty
[14:47] <cannon> 32 gutsy
[14:47] <Fujisan> neville how do i spell Lynx properly to install via apt-get ?
[14:47] <Jucato> Fujisan: links2, lynx, elinks, w3m. take your pic
[14:47] <ere4si> hmmm
[14:47] <Fujisan> which one do you recommend Jucato?
[14:47] <ere4si> cannon: which plugin?
[14:48] <Jucato> hm... I can't recall which one I liked best.. links2 I think
[14:48] <cannon> plugin?
[14:48] <cannon> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash top one
[14:48] <Fujisan> are they all obtainable via apt-get Jucato?
[14:48] <Fujisan> ok ty
[14:49] <ere4si> cannon: from - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[14:49] <leo_rockw> Fujisan: lynx and links2 are both good
[14:49] <Jucato> Fujisan: yes. you can always use "apt-cache search <search word/term>" to check
[14:49] <Fujisan> ok ty
[14:50] <cannon> Adobe Flash Player
[14:50] <cannon> By Adobe
[14:52] <ere4si> cannon: are you on firefox three
[14:52] <cannon> 20.0.012
[14:52] <cannon> oops, make that 2.0.0.12
[14:56] <ere4si> same here cannon  - that plugin was an automated install for me...
[14:56] <clau30> cannon: the latest flash is unstable afaik
[14:57] <clau30> do a downgrade ;)
[14:57] <ere4si> clau30: it is shockwave flash he's after atm
[14:58] <clau30> oh :)
[14:59] <lovre> what are normal temperatures for CPU (core2duo E6420) and GPU (nVidia 7900GS) ?
[15:00] <flipstar_daily_l> active or passive gpu ?
[15:00] <ere4si> 40 - 70
[15:00] <lovre> active
[15:00] <flipstar_daily_l> then around 60 i would say..not sure at all
[15:00] <lovre> my CPU is at 47°C, and my gpu is at 61°C, at minimum load.. just irc running...
[15:00] <flipstar_daily_l> cpu around 50
[15:00] <flipstar_daily_l> yep thats okay
[15:01] <lovre> ok thank you..
[15:04] <lovre> a short one.... is there a way to completely remove border from konsole?
[15:05] <kristina> hi, does anybody know what's up with wengophone? I can't purchase new wengos and the forums are full of porn...
[15:06] <Jucato> kristina: um.. try their support channel/forums/mailing list
[15:07] <clau30> kristina: which site?
[15:07] <lovre> here is the look of my current console: http://i26.tinypic.com/34tesmb.png   as you can see, there is still a border, tho ive removed everything i could. Is there any way to remove that few pixels of border? So its just a dark background.... ?
[15:07] <kristina> wengophone.com , help redirects to http://forum.wengophone.com/
[15:07] <kristina> ah, I finally found a contact mail
[15:08] <clau30> kristina: try also http://www.openwengo.org/
[15:08] <Jucato> lovre: afaik, no
[15:09] <lovre> Jucato: :( that's shame.. Is there any other terminal software i can use in kubuntu, other than konsole?
[15:10] <kristina> clau30: tnx, but wengo credits are sold only on wengophone.com right?
[15:10] <Jucato> lovre: what exactly are you looking for?
[15:11] <Jucato> lovre: btw, you can try asking in #kde for confirmation, but afaik, it's not possible to remove that last small border. you can try changing the widget Style though (from Plastik or Polyester to something else)
[15:11] <lovre> Jucato: i would like to remove any border from the konsole. Maybe i could install some other terminal software that could have this feature.. And i still want it to be able to do everything konsole is doing.
[15:11] <lovre> Jucato: ok, thank you for answering
[15:11] <Jucato> lovre: um.. why do you want to remove the border in the first place?
[15:11] <Jucato> have you tried Yakuake?
[15:11] <lovre> Jucato: no, what is that
[15:11] <Jucato> !info yakuake
[15:11] <clau30> kristina: sorry, don't know that..
[15:11] <ubotu> yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[15:12] <kristina> is there any alternative besides skype to make pc to phone calls on linux?
[15:12] <Jucato> lovre: it basically uses Konsole, but gives this "rolling down" effect, which makes it available on all virtual desktop
[15:12] <ShishKabab> I can tell you: Yakuake rocks!!!!
[15:13] <clau30> it does rock, but afaik you can't remove the borders
[15:13] <lovre> Jucato: can you help me clarify something. Terminal on its own is not a shell? Its just an interface to shell? Am im right, or am i mistaken?
[15:13] <Jucato> lovre: simply install it, then press F12 to see for yourself
[15:13] <cannon> can the opera browser be used on linux?
[15:13] <Jucato> cannon: yes
[15:13] <clau30> cannon: yes
[15:13] <clau30> :)
[15:13] <cannon> heh, cool
[15:13] <cannon> i don't see it in the package manager
[15:13] <lovre> Jucato: why F12? nothing happens..
[15:14] <Jucato> lovre: technically Konsole is a "terminal emulator". a "Terminal" is originally some hardware with a monitor and a keyboard. a "shell" is a program that interprets your commands and runs it the appropriate programs.
[15:14] <Jucato> think of the "shell" as your command line equivalent of a GUI desktop
[15:14] <Jucato> lovre: is Yakuake installed?
[15:14] <clau30> lovre: for borderlessyness, look here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/CenterShell?content=75997
[15:14] <Jucato> lovre: oops. install yakuake, run it, then press F12
[15:15] <lovre> Jucato: so it doesnt matter what terminal i use, it matters what shell i use. If i change my terminal software, all commands are the same, because i use for example bash shell. Is this correct?
[15:15] <Jucato> right.. he will have to install Eterm (Enlightenment's terminal)
[15:15] <Jucato> lovre: correct
[15:15] <Jucato> lovre: but some terminal emulators offer features that others don't
[15:16] <Jucato> commands are the same, features might be different
[15:16] <cannon> could somebody remind me how to refresh the k menu pls?
[15:16] <lovre> Jucato: i just wanted to be sure im not loosing anything important if i change konsole to something else
[15:16] <lovre> Jucato: i see. Thank you for your time, you have been very helpfull...
[15:16] <Jucato> cannon: kbuildsycoca
[15:16] <cannon> ta
[15:17] <Jucato> lovre: no you won't. specially if you use Yakuake, since it basically uses an "embedded" Konsole
[15:17] <lovre> Jucato: thx :D
[15:18] <Jucato> lovre: yakuake has this advantage over a borderless, always present terminal in the background: you can hide it when you don't need it and roll it down when you do. it has tabs just like a regular konsole. and it's available on all virtual desktops
[15:18] <clau30> lovre: also, it's very cool! :)
[15:18] <Jucato> heh :)
[15:18] <lovre> Jucato: when it hides, and then i restore it, its not a new session, is it?
[15:19] <Jucato> of course not :)
[15:19] <Jucato> it's the same session
[15:19] <Jucato> unless you manually exit that session (Ctrl+D or "exit")
[15:19] <lovre> Jucato: this seems veeeeery nice!
[15:20] <Jucato> lovre: you can set it to autohide if you lose focus from Yakuake (change to another window or click on the desktop)
[15:20] <Jucato> otherwise it stays visible unless you manually toggle it to roll up
[15:22] <lovre> Jucato: it seems its autohiding by default...
[15:22] <Jucato> ah ok
[15:22] <lovre> :)
[15:22] <lovre> Jucato: thanx again, g2g, see you
[15:22] <Jucato> bye
[15:23] <lovre> exit
[15:23] <francism> Eclipse has been crashing immediately after starting for about a week. java is sun version 6. otherwise i've been using it with the aptana plugin in Kubuntu 7.10 without any issues for the past 4 months at least. If anybody has an idea where to look for the culprit, I'd appreciate it. Could it be an xorg problem?
[15:27] <albaihaqi> test
[15:28] <nblracer> need some help, Im using Kubuntu hardy with KDE 4
[15:28] <nblracer> it is a dual boot system, btw
[15:29] <Jucato> nblracer: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[15:29] <flipstar> hardy >> #ubuntu+1
[15:29] <nblracer> but in dolphin, when i click on my ntfs volume....
[15:29] <nblracer> ok
[15:35] <Fujisan> How can i open a saved session profile?
[15:37] <Fujisan> in Konsole
[15:40] <giovani> Fujisan: in "Settings"->"Configure Konsole..." and then under the "Session" tab?
[15:44] <Fujisan> ok ty
[15:53] <intelikey> wherefore is usb no more working correctly when i updated my kernel ?   (dapper LTS)
[15:54] <Fujisan> incompatible
[15:54] <intelikey> more like BUG you mean ?
[15:54] <Fujisan> upgrade to windowxp immediatly
[15:54] <Fujisan> lol sorry
[15:55] <intelikey> "to windowxp" != upgrade
[15:56] <intelikey> lsusb doesn't see disk   but i can mount sda manually    ???
[15:57] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d20dd1db4
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> HAL problem maybe?
[15:59] <intelikey> i don't use hal   so no that's not it.
[15:59] <intelikey> only change was the kernel update.   still works if i boot the older kernel
[16:02] <SQLDarkly> How can I serve two subnets with Samba?
[16:14] <genii> SQLDarkly: There's an smb.conf example here http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch04_06.html
[16:14] <cannon> hey nosrednaekim m8
[16:16]  * cannon spanks nosrednaekim
[16:18] <nosrednaekim> hey cannon
[16:26] <cannon> could you help me install adobe flash pls nosrednaekim
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> cannon: sure... its quite simple
[16:27] <cannon> ta
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[16:27] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.2 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> cannon: run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[16:28] <cannon> ta
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> did that?
[16:29] <cannon> will i need to restart my opera browser?
[16:29] <cannon> or reboot?
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> oh..opera...don't know how it works with that...
[16:29] <cannon> well firefox kept freezing on me earlier
[16:30] <ShishKabab> Yeah... It works with Opera (at least for me)
[16:30] <cannon> not for me
[16:30] <cannon> unless I need a reboot
[16:30] <IppatsuMan> cannon: the latest flash plug in doesn't work with opera 9.20, you need 9.50b at least. I don't know if it works with 9.26, though.
[16:30] <ShishKabab> Yeah, you need to restart Opera
[16:31] <cannon> i already tried to restart opera
[16:31] <ShishKabab> Aha
[16:31] <cannon> let me check my verison
[16:32] <cannon> http://youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w ... i just get a light grey box where the video usually goes
[16:32] <ShishKabab> Mmm...
[16:32] <cannon> Version
[16:32] <cannon> 9.26
[16:32] <cannon> Build
[16:33] <cannon> 698
[16:33] <cannon> Platform
[16:33] <jpatrick> !enter | cannon
[16:33] <ubotu> cannon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:33] <cannon> Linux
[16:33] <cannon> System
[16:33] <cannon> i686, 2.6.22-14-generic
[16:33] <cannon> Qt library
[16:33] <cannon> 3.3.7
[16:33] <cannon> Java
[16:33] <cannon> Java Runtime Environment installed
[16:33] <cannon> oops, sorry
[16:33] <cannon> lol, thats why i already said oops ;)
[16:33] <ShishKabab> Try to go to Preferences > Advanced > Content and click on Plugin-options
[16:34] <ShishKabab> Do you see Shockwave Flash in there?
[16:34] <cannon> yep
[16:35] <cannon> 2 firefox ones and the nonfree one
[16:35] <ShishKabab> Hmmm.... I only see one in there. Maybe that's the problem.
[16:35] <cannon> enable plugins is also checked
[16:36] <cannon> i should remove the firefox ones?
[16:36] <ShishKabab> But sorry: Dinner is ready here :)
[16:36] <cannon> k
[16:36] <ShishKabab> Cya later
[16:36] <cannon> k
[16:39] <cannon> ugh, still a grey box
[16:40] <cannon> hmm, ff is now working with flash ... very strange! lol
[16:40] <flipstar> try with opera 9.50 Beta 1 .. works great here
[16:41] <cannon> i will if firefox fails me again
[16:42] <cannon> is opera your fav browser?
[16:42] <flipstar> i use firefox 3 mainly
[16:42] <flipstar> but opera is still faster
[16:42] <cannon> i like firefox because of all the add-ins
[16:42] <cannon> especially foxmarks :)
[16:43] <HamishTPB> Riddell: are you around Jonathon?
[16:43] <cannon> then i load all the addins that I have put in my favs ... works great :)
[16:43] <Riddell> hi HamishTPB
[16:43] <HamishTPB> hi matey
[16:43] <HamishTPB> been offline for a while - moved house :)
[16:43] <HamishTPB> just back
[16:43] <HamishTPB> and then my main PC died!
[16:43] <HamishTPB> so
[16:44] <HamishTPB> installed Kubuntu 7.10 from CD then did all latest updates
[16:44] <HamishTPB> reading your blog today I was tempted to try the dist upgrade tool out for Hardy
[16:44] <cannon> hey flipstar if I installed the nvidia-settings package but didn't configure it would it mess with my system?
[16:44] <HamishTPB> it seemed to be going fine but then I got an error installing libc6
[16:45] <HamishTPB> when I click on "Report Bug" it tries to start konqueror but nothing happens
[16:45] <HamishTPB> libc6 sounds serious and important so I thought I should check what to do before it all goes horribly wrong
[16:45] <trixon> Hi, isnt krandr part of kubuntu? How can I get it to be?
[16:45] <flipstar> cannon: nvidia-settings is part of the nvidia driver.. you dont need to install it seperatly
[16:45] <Riddell> HamishTPB: I don't suppose it said what the error was?
[16:45] <HamishTPB> yes
[16:45] <HamishTPB> hang on
[16:46] <HamishTPB> subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), core dumped
[16:46] <cannon> hmmmm
[16:46] <HamishTPB> it says upgrade will continue but libc6 might not be working - sounds fatal to me
[16:46] <cannon> maybe thats why it was not loading the gui last time ... as I was installing the extra one too
[16:48] <cannon> wish me luck :/
[16:48] <cannon> am very nervous about this! lol
[16:48] <HamishTPB> good luck :)
[16:49] <cannon> my main concern ... i used the recovery cd to try and get help yesterday and nobody could figure it out :/
[16:50] <HamishTPB> Riddell: once I close that error box I get a cascade of others because of dependency problems, I seem to have to choice but too see it through now
[16:50] <cannon> do i click save to x configuration file or is that automatic?
[16:50] <basy_> which ICQ client have no problem with sending files?
[16:51] <cannon> konversation works ok for me
[16:51] <Riddell> HamishTPB: please report what you can to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+filebug
[16:51] <Riddell> HamishTPB: including the logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ if you can
[16:51] <HamishTPB> will try - so long as things still run :)
[16:51] <HamishTPB> Riddell: ok mate will look for that too
[16:51] <Riddell> HamishTPB: and let me know the bug number
[16:51] <wraith> Ok... how do I fix it when all my desktop icons, wallpaper, etc go missing?  I keep getting url invalid messages and can't right click on the desktop to change the settings
[16:51] <HamishTPB> Riddell: will do
[16:54] <jussio1> wraith: kde3 or 4?
[16:54] <wraith> 3... 4 won't even come up anymore.
[16:54] <wraith> gives me an error as soon as I sign in and can't backtrace it.
[16:54] <jussio1> wraith: hrm, ive not seen tha behaviour on 3
[16:54] <jussio1> whats the error?
[16:55] <wraith> for 4?
[16:55] <wraith> something to do with SIGSERV...
[16:55] <jussio1> the error on sign in?
[16:56] <wraith> oh... for kde3 it's just a bunch of invalid url messages, then icons don't populate on desktop...
[16:56] <HamishTPB> Riddell: the error might be something I did - checking
[16:56] <wraith> try going into dolphin and going to media and it says invalid url... try clicking on home, invalid url...
[16:57] <basy_> I need to be able to send and recive file through ICQ, But can't do that with Kopete... Which ICQ klient can send file? plz
[16:57] <wraith> think it's got something to do with my kde config file, but not sure how to rebuild it... should I try creating another user and see what that does?
[16:57] <HamishTPB> Riddell: I think I changed the hostname and forgot to restart the system - the first thing the console says is something about non-local host and a socket error
[16:58] <HamishTPB> I changed it back for now but I am not sure if that was just causing a problem when it tried to launch konqeror
[16:58] <flipstar> basy_: kopete can send asaik but you might try pidgin instead
[16:58] <cannon> flipstar: according to the seetings the 2nd monitor is enabled ... but it's not getting any signal
[16:59] <basy_> flipstar: kopete can send only on KDE 4, i am on 3... :( i'll try pidgin thanks
[16:59] <flipstar> cannon: hm it is wired correctly ? you might also try in #nvidia
[17:00] <cannon> defo wired correctly
[17:00] <SQLDarkly> everytime i add a samba user via kcontrol it doesnt save it when I leave the screen and come back. Yes I am running KControl as root
[17:01] <max_> I wanna see the ethernet load, where is the tool in Kubuntu?
[17:01] <basy_> SQLDarkly: try to run it as you with sudo
[17:02] <SQLDarkly> basy on the CLI?
[17:02] <flipstar> max_ vnstat for e.g.
[17:03] <Odd-rationale> max_: Open knotworkmanager and go to the statistics tab
[17:03] <max_> where is knotworkmanager? in ->system->  ??
[17:04] <SQLDarkly> max_ its the RJ45 Icon in teh lower right hand corner
[17:04] <Odd-rationale> *Internet --> Knetworkmanager
[17:06] <SQLDarkly> Anyone know how to specify Samba to serve two subnets? like 192.168.0.1 and 100.111.100.1
[17:07] <genii> SQLDarkly: I already answered that one for you earlier.
[17:07] <genii> SQLDarkly: EG: There's an smb.conf example here http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch04_06.html
[17:08] <SQLDarkly> genii Thanks I appreciate it.
[17:09] <genii> SQLDarkly: No problem
[17:09] <dori> anyone know what's wrong with automount in gutsy?
[17:09] <Odd-rationale> dori: ntfs?
[17:10] <dori> Odd-rationale: no cdrom, usb drives, etc
[17:10] <inetlevel> hello
[17:10] <inetlevel> I am inneed of help with Inet levels?
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> dori: dunno,then
[17:11] <inetlevel> how do i go about getting support here?
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> !ask | inetlevel
[17:12] <ubotu> inetlevel: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:12] <inetlevel> !ask | inetlevel
[17:13] <inetlevel> !ask | how do i make it so that my ubuntu boots into a console and not to gnome's login
[17:13] <ubotu> how do i make it so that my ubuntu boots into a console and not to gnome's login: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:13] <inetlevel> how do i make it so that my ubuntu boots into a console and not to gnome's login
[17:14] <genii> inetlevel: Remove package gdm
[17:14] <flipstar> inetlevel: for ubuntu support try #ubuntu this here is the kubuntu channel
[17:14] <inetlevel> k fuck irc help
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> inetlevel: ctrl+alt+f1 is not good enough gor youZ
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> ?
[17:14] <inetlevel> ttyl
[17:14] <genii> !language | inetlevel
[17:14] <ubotu> inetlevel: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:15] <inetlevel> oh you guys are such panzies
[17:15] <inetlevel> be human
[17:15] <inetlevel> christ
[17:15] <Tann> how would i make several commands that require root privilages to run on startup?
[17:15] <genii> Obviously a frustrated individual
[17:15] <flipstar> !boot | Tann
[17:15] <Tann> yeah, or anger issues maybe?
[17:15] <ubotu> Tann: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[17:16] <genii> Tann: rc.local
[17:17] <Tann> genii where is it located?
[17:17] <flipstar> in /etc so /etc/rc.local
[17:17] <Tann> k. thanks
[17:17] <genii> Tann: It's a file in /etc called rc.local     You can add the names of scripts you have into it and call them from there, or write a script into the body
[17:18] <flipstar> if you decide to put the name of it there then the script has to be in an known path
[17:57] <cannon> hi all
[17:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[17:57] <jussio1> heya cannon
[17:58] <cannon> any atlantis fans here?
[17:58] <cannon> dl'ing s4 :D
[18:00] <BluesKaj> atlantis ?
[18:00] <cannon> yep
[18:00] <cannon> 'tis great
[18:00] <BluesKaj> the question mark means pls expalin
[18:00] <cannon> stargate atlantis
[18:00] <cannon> tv series
[18:00] <BluesKaj> oh
[18:01] <leo_rockw> sg-1!
[18:01] <cannon> i prefer it to sg1
[18:01] <leo_rockw> i never watched atlantis
[18:01] <cannon> it's awesome!
[18:02] <cannon> go get s1 ;)
[18:02] <cannon> more humour, more excitement
[18:02] <leo_rockw> i'm still in season 6 of sg-1... they haven't found atlantis yet
[18:02] <cannon> heh
[18:04]  * BluesKaj is too old and jaded to watch that stuff ... the novelty is gone :P
[18:06] <ubunturos> which config file is read by kdm to setup a resolution for the login screen?
[18:06] <cannon> nonsense!
[18:06] <cannon> go try it
[18:06] <flipstar> ubunturos: xorg.conf
[18:06] <jussio1> ubunturos: xorg.conf
[18:06] <BluesKaj> cannon, already did ..sorry :(
[18:06] <ubunturos> flipstar: any particular line?
[18:06] <flipstar> the first resolution there
[18:07] <cannon> you didn't like it BluesKaj?
[18:07] <ubunturos> flipstar: any particular section? (if you can point me out)
[18:07] <flipstar> theres a good howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:08] <flipstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42 might be better
[18:08] <flipstar>         SubSection "Display" it says
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Those scince fiction themes wear thin on me . Don't get me wrong I'm just not interested anymore... to each his own
[18:08] <ubunturos> flipstar: thanks.
[18:09] <flipstar> np
[18:09] <cannon> yeah
[18:12] <cannon> i like how you can drag a maximized window to restore it ... is it a compiz thing or kubuntu?
[18:13] <leo_rockw> cannon: compiz
[18:13]  * cannon turns on the rain :)
[18:13] <leo_rockw> cannon: the fire, the fire!
[18:13] <cannon> fire?
[18:13]  * leo_rockw doesn't like compiz...
[18:13] <leo_rockw> cannon: there's a fire plugin
[18:14] <leo_rockw> cannon: you paint with fire
[18:14] <cannon> how come ya don't like it?
[18:14] <cannon> yeah, interesting for just a few mins :P
[18:14] <afiestas> someone with nvidia 6400/6800 Go can paste the glxgears output please?
[18:14] <leo_rockw> cannon: yeah... it's only cool to make the lusers drool over your desktop. otherwise, completely useless...
[18:15] <cannon> i find it useful
[18:15] <leo_rockw> cannon: in which way?
[18:15] <cannon> expo is useful
[18:15] <cannon> i have that locked into top left of screen
[18:15] <leo_rockw> cannon: which one is that?
[18:15] <cannon> shows all four in a strip
[18:15]  * jussio1 wonders if cannonand leo_rockw would like to join #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:16] <cannon> and the other one I really like is putting all the windows on the same screen but zoomed out
[18:16] <cannon> lol, i'd stop if peeps where asking for help jussi :P
[18:16] <leo_rockw> cannon: try komposé. and yeah, jussio1 is right
[18:16] <cannon> but I can leave if ya wish
[18:17] <jussio1> cannon: you are most welcome to stay, just try to keep this for support, and chat in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:17] <cannon> k
[18:20] <Lopin> !compiz-fusion
[18:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:43] <suskin> cafte poradte mi pls...wobby plugin
[18:45] <genii> !sk
[18:45] <ubotu> Žiadame slovenských používateľov aby v kanáli #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a česky sa dohovoríte v #ubuntu-cz.
[18:48] <ShishKabab> Hello! Could someone please help me with a package management problem?
[18:49] <tuomass> go ahead
[18:49] <ShishKabab> I'm a webdeveloper and one day I woke up and suddenly libapache2-mod-php5 was deinstalled....
[18:49] <ShishKabab> I tried to install it and restart Apache but PHP still wouldn't work correctly
[18:49] <ShishKabab> After that I tried to just remove Apache and PHP
[18:49] <ShishKabab> By issueing "sudo aptitude purge apache2 php5 php5-gd php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5"
[18:49] <ShishKabab> When I did that subversion was suddenly deinstalled!
[18:49] <ShishKabab> Then I try "sudo aptitude install apache2 php5 php5-gd php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5" and it wants to delete my whole KDE4 installation
[18:50] <trappist> ShishKabab: kde4 does still throw a wrench into dependencies, last I checked
[18:50] <nosredna_ekim> ShishKabab: don't use aptitude... it remembers things that you may prefer not to be remembered
[18:51] <trappist> ShishKabab: but like nosredna_ekim says, use apt-get instead of aptitude
[18:52] <ShishKabab> nosredna_ekim: Some people recommend apt-get and some aptitude... It's almost like the Gnome vs KDE thing :S
[18:52] <nosredna_ekim> well, use aptitude with gnome and apt-get with kde ;) ..... just kiddin ;)
[18:52] <ShishKabab> :)
[18:53] <trappist> ShishKabab: they're good for different things.  if I know in advance that I want to go ahead and install any recommended packages, I use aptitude.  if I know exactly what packages I want to install, I use apt-get.
[18:53] <ShishKabab> Ok....
[18:54] <ShishKabab> I'll now try to use apt-get
[18:55] <trappist> ShishKabab: or you could just assume this is god's way of telling you to switch to ruby
[18:55] <trappist> because clearly, if god wanted you writing php this wouldna happened
[18:55] <cannon> is there a kde app that lets me play movies but also has a file manager, like with winrar?
[18:56] <ShishKabab> trappist: Hehe.... Our company has built a whole PHP framework. It wouldn't be so easy to switch :)
[18:56] <trappist> cannon: woah, you want a media-player-slash-file-manager-slash-archive-tool?
[18:56] <cannon> nah, lol
[18:56] <cannon> i meant to say winamp :P
[18:56] <cannon> not winrar
[18:56] <trappist> oh :)
[18:57] <cannon> know of any?
[18:58] <trappist> cannon: I'm a little sheepish about recommending it, but I think pornview might be what you're looking for
[18:58] <nosredna_ekim> XMMS2 is pretty close to winamp I have heard
[18:58] <Firebird> there's a 2? :)
[18:58] <ShishKabab> trappist: But I'll look at Ruby sometime in the future. I hear many positive things about it
[18:59] <trappist> ShishKabab: I made the leap a few years ago, and I'll never look back
[18:59] <trappist> ShishKabab: this was after writing *several* php frameworks
[18:59] <cannon> lol, pornview?
[18:59] <leo_rockw> ShishKabab: i'm translating python + django docs right now, you may want to take a look into that.
[18:59] <ShishKabab> trappist: django?
[19:00] <trappist> cannon: apt-cache show pornview
[19:00] <trappist> ShishKabab: no, rails
[19:00] <ShishKabab> trappist: Yeah, I've heard of it... But what is djago?
[19:01] <icewaterman> hm, i have a problem with 32bit applications and dri
[19:01] <icewaterman> on amd64
[19:01] <leo_rockw> ShishKabab: django is a web framework
[19:01] <trappist> ShishKabab: python's answer to rails, if I hear correctly
[19:01] <pnukeid> heloo ther
[19:02] <icewaterman> it seems that even though that was unnecessary before i have to set the variable LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib32/dri before running 32bit apps
[19:02] <icewaterman> otherwise i will not get 3d acceleration
[19:02] <cannon> i'll try em both ... thanks :)
[19:02] <leo_rockw> ShishKabab: the django community is really cool.
[19:02] <icewaterman> this is a regression, it was unnecessray before, any idea what package i have to reinstall in order for this to work automatically without manual intervention?
[19:03] <pnukeid> i've installed kubuntu dual boot with xp, after install i can't get my xp, it say write disk error, when i chosse from grub ?
[19:03] <pnukeid> anyone know about this ?
[19:03] <pnukeid> but kubuntu work fine
[19:03] <trappist> icewaterman: you could just set that environment variable globally in, say, /etc/profile
[19:03] <ShishKabab> trappist: Ok... But I'll first look into Ruby.
[19:04] <ShishKabab> trappist: I was told that this is very good book http://poignantguide.net/ruby/
[19:05] <trappist> ShishKabab: one of many good books, if you can handle why's style :)
[19:05] <hunteke> question: where do the devs hangout?
[19:06] <trappist> hunteke: #kubuntu-devel, I think... maybe it's -dev
[19:06] <hunteke> trappist: thanks
[19:06] <ShishKabab> trappist: I really don't know. What's so special about his style?
[19:06] <jpatrick> trappist: -devel :)
[19:06] <hunteke> trappist: -devel .  thanks
[19:06] <hunteke> hehe yep
[19:07] <jpatrick> y'all welcome to join us if you want!
[19:07] <trappist> ShishKabab: you'll see :)  if you ask me, it's fun and makes it easier to read.  some people find it distracting or even annoying.
[19:08] <ren_> Any1 have anything to say about y the updates after a fresh install make kubuntu crash and give a file 15 not found on restart?
[19:10] <ShishKabab> trappist: Ok! So I'll keep this one in my bookmarks
[19:10] <trappist> ShishKabab: bookmark this one too, by the same guy: http://tryruby.hobix.com/
[19:10] <sqt4help_> hi
[19:11] <sqt4help_> can someonehelp me with qt4?
[19:11] <sqt4help_> or tell me where to get some help?
[19:11] <maroo> hello, is there a tool to browse the itunes store (for podcasts and free non-drm downloads etc)?
[19:12] <ShishKabab> trappist: That looks like a realy nico one
[19:13] <sqt4help_> does someone programm in qt4
[19:13] <sqt4help_> ?
[19:14] <ren_> anyone ever have probs with updates for kubuntu?
[19:14] <zimon> sqt4help_: some years ago ..
[19:14] <sqt4help_> oh
[19:14] <sqt4help_> qt0.1
[19:14] <sqt4help_> ?
[19:14] <sqt4help_> ;)
[19:14] <zimon> sqt4help_: no, qt4
[19:14] <ShishKabab> sqt4help_: Me!
[19:15] <ShishKabab> sqt4help_: I really like the Qt framework
[19:16] <sqt4help_> i have a small problem, i think you can solve it ;)
[19:16] <sqt4help_> it simple does not find the qcoreapplication header
[19:16] <sqt4help_> although ist on the harddrive in /usr/
[19:17] <sqt4help_> usr include qt4 qt
[19:17] <sqt4help_> so i think i have to set the PATHS or somethink like that
[19:17] <sqt4help_> cause i cant compile the sample application
[19:17] <ShishKabab> What's the exact include statement?
[19:18] <ShishKabab> Ok...
[19:18] <ShishKabab> I really wouldn't know... I just worked for me....
[19:20] <sqt4help_> it is so funny
[19:20] <sqt4help_> now it works
[19:20] <sqt4help_> could it be: QTDIR=/usr/include/qt4/Qt
[19:20] <sqt4help_> that this was the solution?
[19:20] <zimon> yes
[19:20] <ShishKabab> sqt4help_: Probably :)
[19:20] <sqt4help_> oke,
[19:20] <sqt4help_> (: thanks,
[19:20] <sqt4help_> now i can compile ;)
[19:23] <icewaterman> trappist: cant
[19:23] <safak> hi how can remove the `amsn `programme?
[19:23] <icewaterman> problem is: or lets say i can but then i will have no 3d acceleration with 64bit applications
[19:23] <sqt4help_> now i'm trying my first qt4 application ;)
[19:24] <icewaterman> but this worked before just fine, i do not know why the hell it doesnt work now
[19:24] <icewaterman> or only works with a workarround
[19:25] <sqt4help_> hmm...
[19:25] <sqt4help_> no i cant compile it :
[19:25] <sqt4help_> it says:
[19:25] <sqt4help_> QApplication: No such file or directory
[19:25] <sqt4help_> the statement is: #include <QApplication>
[19:25] <BluesKaj> sqt4help_, install 'build-essential'
[19:26] <safak> can somebody help me :( i want to remove `amsn `program but i cant,how can i remove it
[19:26] <sqt4help_> is already installed,
[19:26] <flipstar> safak: there should be an option in kmenu for that
[19:26] <sqt4help_> the file is on the disk
[19:27] <sqt4help_> ./usr/include/qt4/Qt/qapplication.h
[19:27] <sqt4help_> ./usr/include/qt4/QtGui/qapplication.h
[19:27] <safak> thanks
[19:27] <sqt4help_> i think my path is wrong
[19:27] <sqt4help_> tried this QTDIR=/usr/include/qt4/Qt already
[19:28] <sqt4help_> i could compile the basic qt4 template
[19:28] <sqt4help_> but not when i add the header QApplication
[19:28] <BluesKaj> !libqt4
[19:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !libqt4-core
[19:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt4-core - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <flipstar> try with info before ..
[19:29] <sqt4help_> both are installed
[19:30] <sqt4help_> @blueskaj
[19:30] <sqt4help_> i found the problem
[19:30] <sqt4help_> i have to to it this way:
[19:30]  * membrive saluda
[19:30] <jpatrick> membrive: #kubuntu-es ;-)
[19:31] <sqt4help_> #include <QtGui/QApplication>
[19:31] <sqt4help_> instead of #include <QApplication>
[19:31] <sqt4help_> then its okay,
[19:31] <sqt4help_> but why?
[19:31] <sqt4help_> i dont want to write alway QtGui
[19:31] <sqt4help_> or is it beacause the .pro file is configured as a terminal app
[19:31] <sqt4help_> ?
[19:32] <sqt4help_> or something like that
[19:32] <nosredna_ekim> sqt4help_: you may want to try another channel, like #qt...
[19:33] <sqt4help_> ok
[19:33] <sqt4help_> how can i change channel?
[19:33] <flipstar>  /join <channel>
[19:33] <sqt4help_> thanks
[19:35] <halo> hi there
[19:36] <jussio1> hi
[19:36] <khaije1> is there a mgmt gui for software a/o hardware raid on linux ?
[19:37] <khaije1> me ducks
[19:37]  * khaije1 types more carefully from now on
[19:37] <halo> all busy in pvt conversations?
[19:39] <jussio1> !ask | halo
[19:39] <ubotu> halo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:40] <flipstar> khaije1: not that i know..but im using dmraid and dont have to set up anything usally
[19:41] <khaije1> flipstar: dmraid is for sw raid, no?
[19:41] <halo> ok thxs
[19:41] <flipstar> software raid or fakeraid..yep
[19:41] <khaije1> flipstar: what level do you use?
[19:41] <flipstar> raid 0
[19:42] <Alfh> anybody has any ideea how to make sudo work without prompting for password ?
[19:42] <khaije1> oh thats the risky one :-P
[19:42] <flipstar> yep :P
[19:42] <khaije1> what motivated you to pick that one?
[19:42]  * khaije1 is trying to build something bulletproof
[19:42] <Alfh> i dont want it again and again
[19:43] <Riddell> ** beta testers: all new kubuntu-kde4 20080318.2 is up for testing
[19:43] <pinepain> Alfh, add your user to sudoers list
[19:43] <flipstar> Alfh: you can edit the suders file so you only have to enter once in a session
[19:44] <flipstar> khaije1: first i wanted all my hard drive space..secondly its faster .. for every important data i still have a backup on a third drive
[19:44] <Alfh> flipstar,  which file
[19:44] <Alfh> pinepain, which file
[19:45] <flipstar>  /etc/sudors see man sudoers
[19:45] <pinepain> Alfh, /etc/sudoers
[19:45] <pinepain> Alfh, man sudoers =)
[19:46] <kgx> hey. how can i find out which distro i am using?
[19:46] <kgx> (through the console)
[19:46] <nosredna_ekim> lsb_release -a
[19:46] <pinepain> kgx, cat /proc/version_signature
[19:46] <pinepain> kgx, cat /proc/version
[19:46] <pinepain> kgx, uname -a
[19:47] <kgx> pinepain: thanks
[19:47] <flipstar> pinepain: doesnt work.only shows kernel version
[19:47] <pinepain> flipstar, which one
[19:47] <flipstar> both
[19:47] <pinepain> flipstar, #cat /proc/version_signature
[19:48] <pinepain> flipstar, Ubuntu 2.6.22-14.52-generic
[19:48] <pinepain> so i use ubuntu =)
[19:48] <kgx> on mine its cat /proc/version
[19:48] <flipstar> yes..wheres the distro name ?
[19:48] <kgx> which shows red hat
[19:48] <flipstar> better use cat /etc/*release
[19:48] <pinepain> ubuntu is distro, isnt'it
[19:49] <pinepain> flipstar, it will not work on all *nix
[19:49] <flipstar> sure it is..
[19:49] <nosredna_ekim> uhhh,.... use "lsb_release -a" which will tell you everything
[19:49] <flipstar> but there all dont tell you of k/e/x/ubuntu version anyway
[19:50] <pinepain> flipstar, and so what =)
[19:50] <pinepain> flipstar, DE is not distro
[19:50] <flipstar> hm?
[19:51] <mohamed_> anyone know a good database gui for JDBC ?
[19:54] <pinepain> mohamed_, what do u mean "gui"
[19:55] <mohamed_> pinepain, graphical
[19:55] <wesley> hello al laptop with a
[19:55] <wesley> Intel Celeron M - 530
[19:55] <wesley>   Kloksnelheid:   1730 MHz
[19:55] <wesley> would it run fast under kubuntu
[19:56] <flipstar> as fast as is can i guess
[19:56] <pinepain> mohamed_, i dont understand, u need some gui for administrational purposes or else
[19:56] <mohamed_> pinepain,  yes
[19:57] <wesley> its got 2 gb memory and a Intel Celeron M 1.86 ghz and 2 gb memory and intel grafic
[20:00] <mohamed_> pinepain,  to perform query also, currently there is one i will try it if it work
[20:00] <pinepain> mohamed_, sry i know only web interfaces and only on php (phpmyadmin, etc)
[20:01] <pinepain> mohamed_, oh! there is some pluggins for eclipse
[20:01] <mohamed_> pinepain, i find this ... http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=screenshots
[20:02] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Whenever I move my cursor far enough off of the screen it goes into the next desktop.  How do I turn this feature off?
[20:02] <raymond> qqun parle français
[20:02] <raymond> bonsoir
[20:03] <raymond> ok
[20:03] <raymond> salut
[20:10] <Ertain> So... Does anyone know how to stop the cursor from going to the next desktop as you're moving it off screen?
[20:10] <Kaevik> so typical setup would be / /swap and /home ?
[20:10] <flipstar> Ertain: are you talking about compiz or have dual monitors ?
[20:11] <ranjan> hi connected to internet via GPRS but konqueror not working
[20:11] <ranjan> help anyone
[20:11] <ranjan> please
[20:11] <Ertain> No, whenever I move my cursor far enough to the left, right, top or bottom, it goes to the next virtual desktop.
[20:11] <pinepain> hi
[20:11] <pinepain> Ertain, look in kde settings =)
[20:12] <flipstar> never heard of that ..
[20:12] <Ertain> Can do, pinepain.
[20:12]  * Ertain looks in KDE settings.
[20:13] <flipstar> Kaevik: yes..
[20:13] <flipstar> where /swap is a small partition
[20:16] <Ertain> Can't find any mention of moving the cursor to the next desktop in KDE settings, pinepain.
[20:17] <Kaevik> k I see exampples that use /usr but  I cna store everything in /home right?
[20:17] <Kaevik> -p
[20:17] <flipstar> Ertain: how did you set this feature ?
[20:17] <flipstar> Kaevik: /usr is stored in / ..
[20:17] <Ertain> I didn't set it.  When I upgraded to Gutsy it magically appeared.
[20:18] <flipstar> Ertain: never heard of that..as workaround you could limit virtual desktops to one
[20:18] <Kaevik> oh
[20:18] <pinepain> Ertain, r u shure u jump on _next_ desctop? maybe u have wrong settings on ur current (it is bigger than screen resolution? i have some troubles on old xfree86 on mandrake)
[20:19] <flipstar> pinepain: please use you instead of 'u' thanks :)
[20:19] <Kaevik> so / should be about what size?
[20:19] <flipstar> at least 5gig i would say
[20:19] <Ertain> I think my desktops are the same size as my resolution.
[20:21] <ren_>  Any1 have anything to say about y the updates after a fresh install make kubuntu crash and give a file 15 not found on restart?
[20:23] <flipstar> M4y83 83C0|253 50M37H1n6 15 84|}Ly fUCK3|} Up w17H 6|2U8
[20:23] <pinepain> Ertain, i find it =)
[20:23] <jpatrick> flipstar: ...
[20:23] <flipstar> next time i'll use ironic tags
[20:24] <pinepain> kde menu -> system settings -> desctop -> multiply desctops
[20:24] <pinepain> Ertain, kde menu -> system settings -> desctop -> multiply desctops
[20:24] <pinepain> Ertain, than look for chekbox "Mouse wheel..."
[20:25] <Ertain> Nothing is under Mouse wheel, and turning that off doesn't work.
[20:27] <ranjan> hi anyone please tell me how to makekonqueror connect to internet
[20:27] <ranjan> see IRC working properly
[20:27] <ren_> where do I go for package update help?
[20:27] <ranjan> but browser shows connection error
[20:27] <pinepain> Ertain, sry, i have no idea how to fix it =(
[20:28] <ranjan> thx
[20:29] <flipstar> ranjan: do other browsers work? you maybe did set an proxy or something
[20:29] <Kaevik> so / 5gb /swap 512mb /hom rest?
[20:29] <flipstar> i would use twice ram for swap..but thats okay
[20:30] <Kaevik> / is used for boot and settings?
[20:31] <flipstar> yes..some user settings also in /home
[20:31] <nosredna_ekim> ran
[20:32] <nosredna_ekim> ranjan: systemsettings->advanced->service manager_>stop the network status daemon
[20:38] <Tom47> for some reaso gdm is being kicked off as a final step when i login ... any ideas on why and how to stop this?
[20:39] <flipstar> probably a glx issue since ubuntu loads compiz at startup but ubuntu in > #ubuntu
[20:39] <nosredna_ekim> Tom47: does kdm start?
[20:40] <Tom47> nosredna_ekim: yes kdm starts and everything looks ok and suddenly gdm kicks in
[20:40] <nosredna_ekim> wait... kdm starts.... then gdm stops it and starts itself?
[20:41] <flipstar> sounds funny
[20:41] <Tom47> gdm seems to be running on top of kdm .... when i close, gdm stops then kdm stops
[20:41] <genii> Tom47: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm                and then choose one or the other as default login manager
[20:43] <Tom47> genii sreremed to work then final line says "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed."
[20:43] <genii> Tom47: That should be fine
[20:43] <Tom47> genii sreremed=seemed
[20:43] <Tom47> ok
[20:44] <Tom47> ok will reboot and see whatt happens
[20:45] <ranjan> amarok can't play mp3
[20:45] <ranjan> can any one tell me how to make it work
[20:45] <RSC-232> ranjan: yes it can
[20:45] <matt1728> yees
[20:46] <ranjan> installed ubuntu today only
[20:46] <matt1728> install libxine1-ffmpeg
[20:46] <ranjan> fighting with it
[20:46] <RSC-232> install lame
[20:46] <nosredna_ekim> ranjan: run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[20:46] <matt1728> libxine1-ffmpeg
[20:47] <ranjan> Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras is the message that i get
[20:48] <Kaevik> ext3?
[20:48] <flipstar> ext3 is cool
[20:48] <jpatrick> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | ranjan
[20:48] <ubotu> ranjan: kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[20:49] <flipstar> ranjan: seems like you need to enable multiverse source first
[20:49] <Tom47> genii still with the same problewm ... i watched the shutdow message s alittle more closely ... first it closes gdm then tries to close kdm which it cannot at that stage find yet kdm starts and is then replaced on boot up as a final step
[20:50] <flipstar> Tom47: you run that reconfigure thing ?
[20:50] <Tom47> flipstar yes
[20:51] <flipstar> and choosed kdm/gdm as primary..?
[20:51] <flipstar> wired
[20:51] <Tom47> flpstar kdm yes
[20:51] <Tom47> flipstar sorry
[20:53] <flipstar> you still could disable the gdm service in systemsettings->advanced->service manager
[20:53] <Tom47> its as if its remembering a final step in booting up .... the prev sessions in kdm are started by kdm and when all thats done bingo into gdm
[20:54] <Tom47> flipstar the funny thing is its only the desktop itself that appears to be gdm, the panel is the kubuntu panel
[20:54] <flipstar> i dont think its recommend anyway to have gnome&kde ..
[20:54] <flipstar> Tom47: when logged into gnome ?
[20:56] <Tom47> flipstar its weird stuff .... it boots into kdm and then just the desktop space itself becomes gdm yet the kdm panel is still there
[20:57] <flipstar> very strange..i agree
[21:00] <flipstar> btw i still cant play 1080i .. and 720p not smooth .. any tips ?
[21:06] <pierreth> hello, in which package is the file site-lisp/lisp?
[21:07] <flipstar> try "apt-file search <packet>
[21:07] <flipstar> "
[21:14] <pierreth> flipstar: I was not able to find
[21:26] <Erickj92> what is the command to untar somthing in terminal?
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> Erickj92: man tar
[21:28] <Erickj92> Odd-retinonale, i thought it was different?
[21:28] <Erickj92> plus, i cant get the man tar to work
[21:29] <flipstar> if man tar doesnt work tar isnt installed
[21:29] <Erickj92> flipstar, ive untarred thigns befor
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> Erickj92: just do "man tar" in terminal
[21:30] <Erickj92> ok
[21:30] <lovre> does any1 have this: Lighting Animated (Skydome)  - its on kde-look but i cant download because site bandwidth is exceeded, so nothing before next month...
[21:31] <_Angelus_> guys
[21:31] <_Angelus_> i installed windows xp on a non-primary hard disc
[21:31] <_Angelus_> and has kubuntu on the primary hard disc
[21:31] <_Angelus_> grub won't boot it
[21:32] <_Angelus_> i read i must use the map command on the net but i cant understand how it works :s
[21:32] <matt1728> doesnt windows need to be on primary to boot?
[21:32] <_Angelus_> yes
[21:33] <_Angelus_> thats why i must use the "map" command in grub to do a "virtual switch"
[21:33] <matt1728> lol
[21:33] <matt1728> ahh
[21:33] <_Angelus_> but i cant understand the documentation thats why i need someone to explain me :s
[21:33] <matt1728> you can edid the grub file
[21:33] <matt1728> and just add xp maybe
[21:33] <_Angelus_> O_o
[21:33] <_Angelus_> what the hell are you saying :o
[21:33] <_Angelus_> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[21:33] <Jarlaxle> hi all
[21:33] <Jarlaxle> ^^
[21:34] <matt1728> does grub see it on the boot?
[21:35] <_Angelus_> grub doesnt do things by itself
[21:35] <_Angelus_> you must tell grub what to see
[21:35] <matt1728> i know but you might just able to add the windows
[21:35] <matt1728> by editing the menu.lst file
[21:36] <Kaevik> hmm anyone know why my ystem would shutdown durring kubuntu install? it did it at the partioniong fase and durring the install fase.
[21:36] <Kaevik> it seems to wait several minutes then poof.
[21:37] <Kaevik> like maybe 15~20 minutes
[21:37] <flipstar> wired..how do you install ?
[21:37] <flipstar> did you checked the cd for errors ?
[21:39] <Kaevik> live cd
[21:39] <Kaevik> doing just / and /swap
[21:39] <sourcemaker> is there a stock charting software available?
[21:40] <matt1728> rss feed?
[21:41] <flipstar> Kaevik: did you checked the cd for errors ?
[21:44] <Kaevik> it was verfified and ejected.
[21:44] <flipstar> hm
[21:44] <flipstar> shouldnt crash at all
[21:45] <flipstar> nosrednaekim: we have here a livecd installer that crashes during install..
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> on what step?
[21:46] <flipstar> first partioning then installation, right Kaevik ?
[21:46] <Kaevik> yes
[21:47] <Kaevik> now I just used the guided partion option.
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> Kaevik: it crashes on both>
[21:47] <Kaevik> yes
[21:47] <Kaevik> it shutdown on the part were I was choosing the partitoons
[21:47] <Kaevik> seems fine then it just shuts off
[21:48] <zeEez> Hey I'm getting an error when trying to install kde4base (http://pastebin.com/m748fade6) Any hints ?
[21:50] <flipstar> zeEez: you trying to install kde4 ? (btw kde4 in #kubuntu-kde4 )
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> Kaevik: no error?
[21:50] <Kaevik> its at 61%
[21:50] <zeEez> flipstar: yep :)
[21:50] <Kaevik> 62%
[21:50] <Kaevik> and still going
[21:51] <flipstar> zeEez: did you removed all kde4 packages before ?
[21:51] <zeEez> no how would i do that ?
[21:51] <Kaevik> I'm installing 7.10 kubuntu
[21:51] <Kaevik> shutdown ><
[21:52] <ScorpKing> Kaevik: do you have an alternate install cd?
[21:52] <Kaevik> this is anoying...
[21:52] <Kaevik> well I have a ton of old cds
[21:53] <Kaevik> or I could just reburn this cd
[21:53] <flipstar> alternate installer might be a better choise ..
[21:53] <ScorpKing> try the alternate cd
[21:55] <Kaevik> I have a ubuntu live cd from Jan 2005 ><
[21:55] <Kaevik> also the install cd
[21:55] <ScorpKing> that's a bit outdated
[21:55] <Kaevik> yea..
[21:55] <flipstar> yes a little bit..
[21:57] <zeEez> flipstar: figured it out :) Damn i should read stuff before doing stuff :)
[21:57] <flipstar> makes sense
[21:58] <Kaevik> I'm gonna put if off till later ><
[22:01] <asobi> what's a msft paint equivalent for kde?
[22:01] <pwned> gnome/
[22:01] <pwned> gimp*
[22:02] <Kaevik> isn;t tgat a bit more advanced thats like photoshop alternative
[22:02] <pwned> yea but you can paint in it aswell
[22:02] <asobi> i don't need to paint
[22:03] <asobi> just crop pictures and the like
[22:03] <FWK_> hi
[22:03] <FWK_> anybody know the gnome app planner?
[22:05] <ScorpKing> !info krita
[22:05] <ubotu> krita (source: koffice): a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 3060 kB, installed size 9476 kB
[22:05] <jpatrick> !info krita-plugins
[22:05] <ubotu> Package krita-plugins does not exist in gutsy
[22:05] <jpatrick> !info krita-plugins hardy
[22:05] <ubotu> krita-plugins (source: krita-plugins): plugins for Krita, of the KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 246 kB, installed size 868 kB
[22:06] <jpatrick> ScorpKing: one of my packages ^^ ;-)
[22:06]  * jpatrick is certain he backported it
[22:07] <ScorpKing> jpatrick: i didn't know. thanks for all the time you spend getting it to everyone :)
[22:08] <dave11> does linux skype  use encryption like the windows client?
[22:08] <jpatrick> ScorpKing: you're most welcome
[22:08] <jpatrick> and damn there's a new upstream release...
[22:08] <jpatrick> "This release brings a dither filter." - ah well
[22:09] <ScorpKing> jpatrick: time to get to work then ;)
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> dave11: yes
[22:09] <jpatrick> ScorpKing: too late for Hardy, we're in feature freeze
[22:09] <dave11> nosrednaekim: thanks
[22:10] <ScorpKing> oh well..
[22:10] <dave11> nosrednaekim: i dont see a padlock on the calls is why i ask
[22:11] <jpatrick> ScorpKing: it's just one extra plugin ;-) (trusting upstream that is)
[22:11] <ScorpKing> jpatrick: i'm pretty happy compiling stuff when i need it :)
[22:12] <asobi> how do i save as jpg in openoffice draw?
[22:15] <mathew> can somebody tell me how to mount a ntfs partion i keep getting mal ... blah errors
[22:17] <ScorpKing> mathew: that mal sound bekend ;) why do you use ntfs?
[22:18] <mathew> can somebody tell me how to mount a ntfs partion i keep getting  hal stoage fused
[22:18] <mathew> i use nfs i multi boot
[22:18] <mathew> windows n linux
[22:18] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[22:18] <ScorpKing> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/<disk> /media/<mountpoint>
[22:19] <mathew> yeah thats it lol
[22:19] <mathew> i forgot the command
[22:19] <ScorpKing> :) np
[22:19] <ScorpKing> !ntfs-3g | mathew
[22:19] <ubotu> mathew: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:19] <ScorpKing> !ntfs > mathew
[22:20] <ScorpKing> that should help
[22:20] <SilentDis> hello :)
[22:20]  * SilentDis can't play WoW, might as well come and help out here :)
[22:21] <ScorpKing> SilentDis: sudo apt-get install kdegames :P
[22:22] <lovre>  i get an error "Access denied" when i try to empty trash bin. How do i empty it, with sudo or something...?
[22:22] <SilentDis> ScorpKing: eh, i'm trying to use amarok to wrangle a 90gb mp3 collection.  that'll occupy me for a while lol
[22:23] <SilentDis> lovre: your user trash bin?
[22:23] <ScorpKing> SilentDis: i still have to sort mine. good luck
[22:23] <Regital> hmm... how do i know when to run something as su root and when not?
[22:23] <SilentDis> lovre: sounds like *something* managed to get it's permissions changed in that folder.
[22:24] <SilentDis> Regital: always run as user.  if that doesn't work, then try as root, but only if it *should* need root.  IE, installing something for example.
[22:24] <lovre> SilentDis: maybe a file in a folder i deleted was created by root?
[22:24] <lovre> SilentDis: any idea how i delete it?
[22:24] <SilentDis> Regital: root means you know exactly what you are doing every step of the way.  if in doubt, skip it.
[22:24] <Regital> SilentDis, gotcha. thanks
[22:25] <SilentDis> lovre: check in ~/.Trash/.  that's where stuff is held.  you can safely delete stuff in there, either with rm or sudo rm or whatever :)
[22:26] <SilentDis> ScorpKing: the big problem i have is with my various artists CDs... some have the artist set as 'various artist' and the title has the artist/title.  annoying :P
[22:26] <lovre> SilentDis: i dont have that folder. I have ~/.local/share/Trash
[22:26] <cyberix> Could someone who is running KDE4 run this demo http://cs.helsinki.fi/u/twruottu/notif/ and take a screen shot for me?
[22:26] <lovre> SilentDis: is that it
[22:27] <SilentDis> lovre: what version are you running?
[22:27] <ScorpKing> SilentDis: there is a program for that. ide3tag i think
[22:27] <mathew> scropking my ntfs config tool wont open
[22:27] <lovre> SilentDis: gutsy
[22:28] <SilentDis> lovre: 7.06, right (can never remember the code names, sorry)
[22:28] <lovre> SilentDis: no, 7.10
[22:28] <SilentDis> lovre: kde or gnome?
[22:28] <lovre> SilentDis: kde
[22:28] <ScorpKing> mathew: i use the command line for everything
[22:29] <asobi> tagging in amarok could use work
[22:29] <lovre> SilentDis: seems i have deleted a file i created with PHP and didnt chown it, so its user is "nobody". Perhaps that is the reason it wont delete.. Is it safe to purge that folder?
[22:29] <SilentDis> lovre: i'd say ~/.local/share/Trash/files is where you need to be
[22:30] <lovre> SilentDis: what about info folder, do i delete everything from it? it contains information about files in files folder
[22:30] <Kaevik> the disk didn't get verified
[22:30] <Kaevik> it appearently ejects the disk then  loads it up again.
[22:31] <Kaevik> now I verified it.
[22:31] <SilentDis> lovre: i'd say the items in both are safe to delete, but the folders themselves should probably remain intact, as i have no idea what wonky-ness would result from them missing, or if they'd just rebuild :)
[22:32] <lovre> SilentDis: hmm. i deleted files manually, but now, i dont get empty trash when i click my trash bin. ... something is messed up. Maybe it will fix itself after a reboot. Thank you :D
[22:33] <SilentDis> lovre: if anything, just restart x (ctrl-alt-backspace).  re-logging in should take care of it
[22:33] <lovre> ill try that
[22:33] <lovre> brb
[22:36] <lovre> SilentDis: seems to be ok now. But theres another problem. The disk freeing seems to not have been reported to system somehow. When i go to dolphin it says i have same amount of free space i had before deleting trash.
[22:37] <lovre> SilentDis: there was 8Gb of trash
[22:37] <SilentDis> lovre: sounds like you just need to force an update.  drop to a term and type `sudo updatedb` :)
[22:37] <TimS> lovre: what is the output from df?
[22:38] <lovre> TimS: it has not changed...
[22:38] <SilentDis> lovre: either way, it'll update in a bit, the space is there :)
[22:38] <TimS> df hasn't changed either? Interesting.
[22:38] <lovre> :s
[22:39] <lovre> where did it go.. i did updatedb, but nothing changed
[22:39] <asobi> what's a good transcoding program? i like to change m4a to mp3
[22:39] <TimS> Sure the trash is empty?
[22:39] <SilentDis> lovre: df -h reports the same issue?
[22:39] <lovre> yep
[22:39] <lovre> SilentDis: yep
[22:40] <TimS> asobi: ffmpeg
[22:40] <lovre> SilentDis: what did i mess up ffs :S
[22:40] <kaminix> Anyone know how to turn on page enumeration in OpenOffice or KWord (pref. KWord)? I'd also like it to not count the first two pages.
[22:40] <asobi> can i grab that from repo?
[22:40] <TimS> lovre: I would try a full reboot as not just x
[22:40] <TimS> Yeah
[22:40] <asobi> thanks
[22:40] <lovre> SilentDis: do i delete files with rem? i would like to purge it with sudo again..
[22:41] <SilentDis> lovre: nothing from what i can tell... but there might be some trash sitting in roots trash, depending on what you deleted and how.
[22:41] <TimS> asobi: Its a CLI program though
[22:41] <lovre> SilentDis: sudo rem ....../Trash/*    -> is that ok?
[22:41] <TimS> try soundKonverter for GUI
[22:41] <asobi> um, what does that mean?
[22:41] <TimS> Command Line Interface
[22:41] <asobi> ah
[22:41] <TimS> !info soundKonverter
[22:41] <ubotu> soundkonverter (source: soundkonverter): KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1888 kB
[22:41] <TimS> That should do the trick.
[22:42] <asobi> thanks
[22:43] <SilentDis> lovre: i'd say check what is inside ~/.Trash/, ~/.local/share/Trash/, and /root/.Trash/, and /root/.local/share/Trash/
[22:44] <asobi> hmm
[22:44] <asobi> soundkonverter doesn't support m4a
[22:45] <lovre> SilentDis: you are right. Its all in /root/.local/share/Trash. 8.8Gb
[22:45] <lovre> SilentDis: how is this, i mean i didnt even know about this hdd space "leakage"... it doesnt delete when i empty the trash. How im i supposed to get rid of trash..
[22:45] <TimS> asobi: It does for me
[22:46] <TimS> asobi: Its listed as an output, so It should work for an input, but you may need ffmpeg, mencoder and some other codecs
[22:47] <TimS> It should work if you have the right codec installed
[22:48] <TimS> asobi: soundKonverter reccomends you have flac, ffmpeg, cdparanoia and vorbis-tools installed
[22:48] <TimS> I would get them if they aren't installed
[22:48] <TimS> And lame and mplayer actually
[22:48] <asobi> @_@
[22:49] <TimS> ffmpeg is probably the main one to install
[22:49] <TimS> !ffmpeg
[22:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:49] <TimS> !info ffmpeg
[22:49] <ubotu> ffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 184 kB, installed size 652 kB
[22:50] <TimS> I think that is the package you need for m4a :P
[22:50] <lovre> freed up 8.8 Gb of space...
[22:50] <asobi> is there something else i can use? i rather not install all this stuff
[22:50] <lovre> too bad i have to do it manually
[22:50] <TimS> asobi: Just get ffmpeg
[22:50] <dennis> hi all
[22:51] <TimS> that is the mpeg codec, that should allow you to use and convert m4a
[22:51] <dennis> can u help me pls?
[22:51] <dave11> !ask
[22:51] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:51] <TimS> If you install that it should allow sdoundKonverter to work with m4a
[22:51] <asobi> so far, my only outputs are ogg and wav...
[22:52] <dennis> i want to install the seamonkey browser but i dont know how
[22:52] <TimS> asobi: Thats because mp3 and m4a and all the other mpeg file formats are in ffmpeg :P
[22:52] <dave11> !seamonkey
[22:52] <ubotu> Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011
[22:52] <asobi> k
[22:53] <dennis> thx *read it know*
[22:53] <asobi> that will install the player as well?
[22:53] <dave11> np
[22:54] <asobi> adept has i have ffmpeg library installed already
[22:54] <TimS> Interesting
[22:55] <TimS> In that case, I am thoughly confused :P
[22:55] <TimS> !codecs | asobi
[22:55] <ubotu> asobi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:55] <asobi> codec, utility, video postprocessing, mpeg related plugins all installed
[22:55] <TimS> Codecs are so difficult in ubuntu, we need a codec manager like the driver manager
[22:56] <dennis> i cant create a folder on my root hard drive can u help me ? im the only man that uses this pc
[22:56] <TimS> You need to do it as sudo
[22:56] <dennis> how?
[22:57] <TimS> sudo mkdir /<name-of-folder> on the command line I believe, but I am not sure it is reccomended to make one.
[22:57] <TimS> Not sure why not to be honest :P
[22:57] <ere4si> sudo mkdir /path/to/dir - e.g. sudo mkdir /media/storage
[22:58] <dennis> u use kubuntu too ?
[22:58] <wesley> 128 MB shared Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100  does this work good with kde4 desktop effects ?
[22:58] <TimS> yes dennis
[22:58] <asobi> which folder is the ffmpeg codec found?
[22:59] <dennis> i wanted to install ubuntu but there was a bklack screen during the installazion so i had to abort
[22:59] <flipstar> wesley: not really i assume
[22:59] <TimS> /usr/bin/ffmpeg would be the exctabule
[23:00] <ScorpKing> dennis: select "safe graphics mode" when the cd boot
[23:00] <wesley> intel graphics are good i readed ojn internet
[23:00] <TimS> Not quite wesley
[23:01] <wesley> ow
[23:01] <Airforce5555> http://www.tribalwars.net/1086076.html fun game
[23:01] <dennis> i have to go :( but ill be right there 2moro
[23:01] <Airforce5555> and if you get 500 points i get free premium points
[23:02] <asobi> tim, what does it say under settings -> environment for your soundkonverter?
[23:03] <TimS> /usr/bin   /usr/local/bin   /home/tim/bin  /home/tim/.kde/share/apps/sound...
[23:03] <asobi> what abour programs found?
[23:04] <TimS> For the programs its /usr/bin and cdda2wav, cdparanoia, faac, ffmpeg, flac, lame, metaflac, ,player, oggdec oggenc
[23:04] <asobi> yea
[23:04] <asobi> some reason, ffmpeg is under the not found list
[23:04] <asobi> i guess having the ffmpeg codec is not the same as having the program
[23:05] <lovre> when im in dolphin, i press F4, and it opens up a konsole positioned in that directory. Can i do same with yakuake?
[23:06] <TimS> asobi: is gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg installed in your package manager?
[23:07] <TimS> heh, If you search ffmpeg in Adept for me, I have every one of the seven or eight programs installed :P
[23:07] <TimS> ten even :P
[23:07] <asobi> no
[23:09] <asobi> what does that plugin do?
[23:10] <TimS> gstreamer is a codec for playing ffmpeg I think
[23:11] <TimS> asobi: All I can rember is that when a format didn't work for me, I installed the gstreamer plugin that corresponds with it, and it tended to work :P
[23:11] <asobi> worth a shot
[23:11] <TimS> I would say so yeah
[23:12] <dave11> i personally installed every codec avalable
[23:12] <TimS> But my method of fixing a problem is installing every package that looks like it could help :p
[23:12] <TimS> dave11: Me too :P
[23:12] <dave11> lol
[23:12] <asobi> ...
[23:12] <asobi> i think too much codecs is harmful?
[23:12] <pjv> hi where can i get some nice mac os x icons for kde
[23:12] <asobi> won't they conflict?
[23:13] <dave11> hasnt slowed me down
[23:13] <TimS> asobi: I have had no problems yet :P
[23:13] <asobi> @_@
[23:13] <dave11> lol
[23:13] <TimS> pjv: kde-look.org
[23:13] <TimS> Adept tells you if there is a conflict usualy
[23:13] <dave11> its called the overkill install
[23:13] <dave11> :-)\
[23:14] <pjv> oh ok ty
[23:14] <asobi> nope
[23:14] <asobi> that didn't work
[23:14] <TimS> Ah :(
[23:14] <TimS> !codecs
[23:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:14] <TimS> Read through thoes pages, thats what I have done before.
[23:16] <moparisthebest> how can i change the keyboard layout for the whole computer?
[23:17] <moparisthebest> not just KDE
[23:17] <asobi> fixed it
[23:17] <asobi> installed ffmpeg
[23:17] <asobi> the player
[23:17] <TimS> Ah
[23:17] <dave11> there ya go
[23:17] <TimS> what package was that?
[23:17] <asobi> ffmpeg
[23:17] <TimS> Oh, I thought you had that :P
[23:17] <Kaevik> I left the laptop  with the live cd running the desktop environment and it didn't shutdown...
[23:17] <asobi> i had the codecs
[23:17] <asobi> not the player
[23:18] <dave11> aahhh
[23:18] <TimS> Oh
[23:18] <asobi> codec, utility, video postprocessing, mpeg related plugins all installed
[23:18] <asobi> notice i didn't include player =P
[23:18] <TimS> haha
[23:18] <asobi> so gstream was a waste
[23:19] <TimS> Oh well, it is a reccomended plugin anyway
[23:19] <Erickj92> does the GPL state that i have to distribute source code? or is it an option
[23:19] <TimS> codec*
[23:19] <TimS> Erickj92: I think so yes
[23:19] <Erickj92> TimS, is that a yes to having to distribute it, or a yes to it being an option?
[23:20] <Kr|ptiX> hi im still haven problem tryn to non ecrypted routers when tryn to connect i get to 28% then it doesnt work ican connect to my wpa but  when goin to my friends  house i cant  connect to his router witch doesnt have an encryption code
[23:20] <asobi> um
[23:20] <asobi> actually
[23:20] <flipstar> Erickj92: you have to distribure the source at least if someone ask for it
[23:20] <Erickj92> i see
[23:20] <asobi> it will only output ogg even though i chose mp3 from drop down list
[23:21] <TimS> weird
[23:21] <TimS> Well, I need my sleeps
[23:21] <TimS> G'nightr
[23:21] <asobi> night
[23:23] <wesley> is it true that linux comsumes more power ?
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> wesley- than not turning your computer on, yes
[23:30] <wesley> sp my accu will be fast empty ?
[23:33] <ritalin> whats the command to launch google earth?
[23:34] <flipstar> googleearth
[23:34] <ritalin> damn didnt install
[23:34] <ritalin> whatpackage do i need?
[23:34] <ritalin> i installed googleearth-package
[23:35] <flipstar> then run make-googleearth-package now
[23:35] <flipstar> this will create a .deb
[23:35] <ritalin> good looking out homey
[23:38] <moparisthebest> what startup script is responsible for setting the keyboard layout?
[23:40] <ritalin> works nicely!
[23:54] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[23:54] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[23:55] <cuznt> !botsnack
[23:55] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[23:59] <matt1728> !apt
[23:59] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[23:59] <matt1728> !yum
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:59] <dave11> !ubotu
[23:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots