| gicmo | anybody here? | 00:27 |
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| jgamio | hi | 03:31 |
| nxvl | is there any way to tell a .desktop file to use gkdu or kdesu depending on if it is KDE or GNOME? | 05:31 |
| nxvl | or do i just need to install 2 .desktop files? | 05:31 |
| dholbach | good morning | 05:49 |
| nxvl | dholbach: guten nacht! | 05:51 |
| dholbach | hi nxvl - hehe :) | 05:52 |
| lool | nxvl: su-to-rootN | 07:16 |
| lool | s/N/? | 07:16 |
| slomo_ | seb128: the youtube plugin works fine here for me... do you get the same failure? | 08:30 |
| seb128 | slomo_: did you try on hardy or debian? | 08:31 |
| seb128 | slomo_: searching for videos work correctly, ie ubuntu lists lot of those | 08:31 |
| seb128 | but playing doesn't work | 08:31 |
| seb128 | trying to play "Ubuntu @ the Library" for example | 08:32 |
| seb128 | "0:00:28.448213545 11128 0x80a2490 ERROR totem /build/buildd/totem-2.22.0/src/backend/bacon-video-widget-gst-0.10.c:330:bvw_error_msg: uri = http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=nWIrxuF5NSo&t=OEgsToPDskJBHaSvPvJkOqOMX83tFaJT | 08:33 |
| seb128 | ** Message: Error: Could not open resource for reading. | 08:33 |
| seb128 | gstgnomevfssrc.c(841): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /play/source: | 08:33 |
| seb128 | Could not open vfs file "http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=nWIrxuF5NSo&t=OEgsToPDskJBHaSvPvJkOqOMX83tFaJT" for reading: Generic error (2) | 08:33 |
| slomo_ | seb128: that was on debian, i don't think there's any important difference with the used packages... hm, let me try that one :) | 08:33 |
| seb128 | " | 08:33 |
| slomo_ | yes, that one fails for me too | 08:33 |
| seb128 | I've been trying a lot of different one in the ubuntu query and most don't play due to similar errors | 08:33 |
| slomo_ | seb128: search for "badger", the first result plays for me | 08:34 |
| seb128 | slomo_: is that the eeePC gutsy one? | 08:35 |
| seb128 | same error, that seems to be random | 08:35 |
| seb128 | I get some videos to play sometime | 08:36 |
| slomo_ | no, the badger song :) www.badgerbadgerbadger.com | 08:36 |
| seb128 | trying to play the badger song one | 08:36 |
| seb128 | "** Message: Error: Element doesn't implement handling of this stream. Please file a bug. | 08:36 |
| seb128 | gstffmpegdemux.c(1372): gst_ffmpegdemux_sink_activate_push (): /play/decodebin13/ffdemux_flv1: | 08:36 |
| seb128 | failed to activate sinkpad in pull mode, push mode not implemented yet" | 08:36 |
| slomo_ | hm | 08:36 |
| seb128 | but I might not have gstreamer-plugins-bad installed | 08:36 |
| seb128 | let me check | 08:36 |
| slomo_ | yes, that's missing definitely | 08:36 |
| slomo_ | you need the flv demuxer from -bad | 08:37 |
| seb128 | shouldn't the easy codec thing be triggered? | 08:37 |
| slomo_ | no, gst-ffmpeg can demux flv too... just not in push mode (i.e. http) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | ok, it works now | 08:38 |
| seb128 | slomo_: alright, so the thing just doesn't like the ubuntu videos for some reason | 08:38 |
| seb128 | doesn't like the one from a debian query neither | 08:40 |
| slomo_ | yay, i'm playing ubuntu @ the library now | 08:40 |
| slomo_ | seems to be something broken in gnomevfs, with soup it works | 08:41 |
| seb128 | what did you change? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | ah | 08:41 |
| slomo_ | we should talk with gicmo ;) | 08:41 |
| seb128 | I doubt he's still interested in gnomevfs ;-) | 08:42 |
| slomo_ | last time i had a similar bug he listened to me... and now we can seek over http without bigger problems | 08:42 |
| slomo_ | btw, for some reason when using gnomevfs one gets a "forbidden" when trying to download the video itself, all redirects before work fine | 08:42 |
| lool | slomo_: Missing referrer? cookie? | 08:44 |
| slomo_ | then soup would miss it too... well, let's ask wireshark :) | 08:44 |
| slomo_ | seb128: do you keep track of http://live.gnome.org/GioPort and get patches for gio ports in ubuntu? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | slomo_: no | 08:48 |
| seb128 | slomo_: we stick to what GNOME do, they usually get things to svn | 08:48 |
| slomo_ | hm, maybe found the bug... | 08:49 |
| slomo_ | most notable difference between soup and gnomevfs is, that gnomevfs sends keepalive http requests and includes "Range: 0-" in the header... apart from that they do the same. so i guess the range makes youtube unhappy and it should work fine with gnomevfs 2.21.90 or something | 08:52 |
| slomo_ | seb128: if you still have that version around (without the http seeking patch) could you test? :) | 08:52 |
| seb128 | slomo_: ok, trying | 08:54 |
| lool | slomo_: Not sure, but I would guess the particular range "Range: 0-" can be ommitted, no? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | slomo_: that makes it work correctly | 09:01 |
| slomo_ | seb128: thanks, would you mind filing a bug upstream? i've to leave now for an hour or something... i could do it afterwards though | 09:01 |
| slomo_ | lool: iirc gnomevfs uses this to determine if it can seek later or not | 09:01 |
| seb128 | slomo_: I'll let you do it, there is no hurry and you know what to write there ;-) | 09:02 |
| lool | slomo_: Aha | 09:02 |
| slomo_ | lool: but then... if that Range stuff failed it should fallback to a request without Range... maybe the "forbidden" confuses it here | 09:02 |
| slomo_ | lool: or that all redirects before happily accepted the range | 09:02 |
| slomo_ | whatever, bbl :) | 09:03 |
| lool | slomo_: Right | 09:04 |
| DktrKranz | Has someone familiar with mono seen something similar to debian 470328 ? | 09:33 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 470328 in beagle "beagle: FTBFS: GConfThreadHelper.cs(30,7): error CS0246: The type or namespace name `GLib' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/470328 | 09:33 |
| slomo_ | DktrKranz: nope | 09:33 |
| DktrKranz | slomo_, there's a fix in gnome 514252 but it seems incomplete. | 09:35 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 514252 in General "beagle evolution backend doesn't build" [Trivial,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514252 | 09:35 |
| slomo_ | DktrKranz: why incomplete? | 09:37 |
| DktrKranz | it keeps FTBFS | 09:37 |
| slomo_ | did you regenerate or patch configure too (not only configure.in)? | 09:37 |
| DktrKranz | well, probably it's because of my very poor mono knowledge | 09:37 |
| DktrKranz | both | 09:38 |
| slomo_ | and when getting a svn checkout it fails too? | 09:38 |
| DktrKranz | didn't tried, let's see | 09:38 |
| DktrKranz | oh, wait a sec... | 09:40 |
| DktrKranz | http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/beagle/trunk/beagle/configure.in?r1=4470&r2=4469&pathrev=4470 | 09:40 |
| DktrKranz | is backslash required? | 09:40 |
| DktrKranz | glib-sharp-2.0 >= $GTK_SHARP_REQUIRED \ | 09:40 |
| slomo_ | yes | 09:43 |
| DktrKranz | so, I missed it | 09:44 |
| slomo_ | :) | 09:45 |
| slomo_ | seb128: btw, don't sync glib 2.16.1-2 from debian :) it breaks network-manager in a way that doesn't make much sense | 09:45 |
| seb128 | slomo_: ok, thanks, I was no planned to do soon due to freeze but good to know ;-) | 09:46 |
| huats | moring everyone | 09:48 |
| seb128 | hey huats | 09:50 |
| huats | hello seb128 | 09:51 |
| huats | how are you ? | 09:51 |
| seb128 | good, thanks | 09:52 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:52 |
| huats | good too | 09:52 |
| huats | :) | 09:52 |
| huats | not very available to work on desktop stuff for a few days since I am quite working on the new ubuntu-fr website | 09:53 |
| huats | but I try to find some little time :) | 09:53 |
| seb128 | cool | 09:55 |
| huats | seb128: you might be able to tell me : do you have any idea why gnome-commander has been sync for powerpc and not for i386 ? | 09:59 |
| huats | or amd64 ? | 09:59 |
| huats | where can I find such information ? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | huats: we sync sources, not binaries | 09:59 |
| seb128 | so your question is why it didn't build on those | 10:00 |
| huats | yeah that was my question ... | 10:00 |
| seb128 | huats: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-commander/ has informations | 10:00 |
| seb128 | hardy i386 Failed to build | 10:00 |
| huats | I guess there is a FTBFS somewherre :) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | installability issue | 10:00 |
| seb128 | ask some buildd admin to give it a retry | 10:00 |
| huats | ok | 10:01 |
| DktrKranz | slomo_, backslash was the key :) | 10:02 |
| huats | seb128: you were right, the rebuild of the sources fixes the pb... | 10:25 |
| huats | :) | 10:25 |
| huats | thanks | 10:25 |
| seb128 | huats: you are welcome | 10:25 |
| === Hobbsee is now known as Spiky | ||
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| _MMA_ | Can we turn off "Show Weather/Temp" in Hardys Clock prefs? Because a location is not set by default, it adds a large amount of space on the left of the applet in the panel. | 17:02 |
| _MMA_ | Turn off by default that is. | 17:03 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: no | 17:09 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: that is a bug and it should be fixed rather | 17:09 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: vuntz knows about the issue | 17:09 |
| _MMA_ | It being on by default or no location set? | 17:10 |
| seb128 | adding space when no location is configured | 17:10 |
| _MMA_ | I see. Will it make Hardy? | 17:10 |
| _MMA_ | The fix? | 17:10 |
| Amaranth | crap now i can't get rid of it | 17:10 |
| Amaranth | i added my own location and it added the temp but it doesn't do the forecast so it's no use to me | 17:11 |
| Amaranth | and now it won't go away :P | 17:11 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: depends on whether if somebody work on a patch for the issue | 17:11 |
| Amaranth | ah, unchecked the boxes | 17:11 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: If the "fix" won't make Hardy, and it can be set in gconf (unchecking the options) I would think that would be a fine solution for now. | 17:12 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: we have space on this panel, I don't think it's that an important issue | 17:14 |
| seb128 | I would prefer having the feature working out of the box when adding a location | 17:15 |
| seb128 | and we go no complain so far | 17:15 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. I'll just turn it off for Ubuntu Studio till there's a proper patch. | 17:16 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: And nobody is gonna complain 'till it's released. Classic situation. And if you won't listen to people like me, we'll continue to put out product with quirks like this. | 17:19 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: oh, that's not true, subscribe one week to the desktop bugs if you want to see if nobody complains about issues ;-) | 17:22 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: Pales in comparison to after a release. And sure, "nobody" should have been "most people". | 17:24 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: still don't agree with you, but let's not discuss on that | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: But this will quickly go into how we work and what I feel the shortcomings of our system are. Not really something to get into here. | 17:25 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: "how we work" being? | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: In Prague. :) | 17:25 |
| seb128 | _MMA_: you don't like having somebody in charge of packages and controlling changes we apply or not? | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | Some things are better in person. | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | I'll just leave it at that for now. :) We _really_ don't wanna get into it here. :) | 17:26 |
| seb128 | well, I'm not sure if I should take it as a personnal criticism, but as you want | 17:27 |
| seb128 | there is no perfect answer to most changes | 17:27 |
| _MMA_ | seb128: Sure, but others might and text just isn't best for some chats. | 17:27 |
| seb128 | that's like having tracker enabled or not, or deskbar installed | 17:27 |
| seb128 | you can't make everybody happy and you need to decide on something | 17:27 |
| lmanul | seb128: ping? | 17:33 |
| seb128 | lmanul: hi | 17:34 |
| lmanul | seb128: Hi ! | 17:34 |
| lmanul | Any news for mentors? Should I subscribe to something if I want to help out? | 17:34 |
| seb128 | no idea | 17:35 |
| lmanul | seb128: Okay, I saw the list of organizations was out, but I guess if you don't know it mustn't be time yet :) | 17:35 |
| lmanul | seb128: Thanks anyway | 17:35 |
| seb128 | I've been busy updating GNOME to 2.22 etc and didn't read those discussions | 17:35 |
| seb128 | you are welcome | 17:35 |
| seb128 | try asking dholbach tomorrow | 17:36 |
| seb128 | he might know better | 17:36 |
| mvo | no seb128? | 18:52 |
| mvo | does anyone here particullarly cares about evo-data-server? | 19:03 |
| Keybuk | in what kind of sense? | 19:05 |
| mvo | fixing a file overwrite problem, but I'm happy to do it, I had hoped that seb128 would be around | 19:10 |
| Keybuk | it's a bit late ;) | 19:11 |
| mvo | yeah, good point :) | 19:11 |
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| Keybuk | vuntz: why is it that sometimes, when I click the Window Selector applet, it gives me the applications from all of my viewports | 19:27 |
| Keybuk | but then sometimes it only gives me from my current viewport | 19:27 |
| vuntz | Keybuk: the window selector always lists all windows | 23:50 |
| vuntz | if it doesn't, then, there's a bug | 23:50 |
| vuntz | maybe it happens when all your apps are in the current workspace? | 23:50 |
| vuntz | could also be some viewport weirdness | 23:51 |
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