/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/19/#launchpad-meeting.txt

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flacostedo we have a chair?14:00
danilosnobody volunteered so far14:01
sinzuido we have anyone who knows how to play with the bot14:01
gmbIsn't statik chairing?14:01
gmbOr was that last week?14:02
intellectronicagmb: statik apologised that he can't chair today14:02
sinzuistatik: has a conflicting appointment14:02
gmbAny volunteers?14:02
intellectronicai propose gmb ;)14:03
* gmb saw that coming14:03
gmb#startmeeting14:03
MootBotMeeting started at 15:03. The chair is gmb.14:03
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]14:03
gmbRight.14:03
gmbWelcome, folks, to the AMEU reviewer meeting.14:04
gmbOur agenda for today is...14:04
* gmb hunts14:04
gmb * Roll call14:04
gmb * Next meeting14:04
gmb * Action items14:04
gmb * Queue status14:04
gmb * Mentoring update14:04
gmb * Review process14:04
gmbSo.14:04
gmb[TOPIC] Roll call14:04
MootBotNew Topic:  Roll call14:04
danilosme14:04
sinzuime14:04
bacme14:04
intellectronicame14:04
gmbflacoste: You?14:05
jt2me14:05
salgadome14:05
allenapme14:05
flacosteme14:05
gmbOkay. Feel free to drag other reviewers in if you see them :)14:05
gmb[TOPIC] Next meeting14:06
kikome14:06
MootBotNew Topic:  Next meeting14:06
* kiko yays for MootBot 14:06
gmbSame time same place?14:06
gmb[AGREED] Next meeting 2008-03-26 14:00 UTC14:06
MootBotAGREED received:  Next meeting 2008-03-26 14:00 UTC14:06
gmbAnyone know they won't be able to make the next meeting?14:06
gmbI think I'm going to miss it actually.14:07
BjornTme14:07
gmbRight, so I won't be here next week.14:07
gmbBut barry will be back, so at least we'll have a chairman :)14:08
gmbSo, moving on14:08
gmb[TOPIC] Action items14:08
MootBotNew Topic:  Action items14:08
gmb* gmb to hack review-submit to enforce 800 line limit.14:08
* gmb FAIL14:08
gmb... and we'll leave that on the list14:09
gmb * schwuk to work with mwhudson to get instructions for running loggerhead onto the    wiki14:09
gmbschwuk: Around?14:09
schwukgmb: yes - forgot the meeting had moved14:09
schwukgmb: https://launchpad.canonical.com/RunningLoggerhead14:09
gmbschwuk: You have an action item re: loggerhead. What's the status of that?14:09
gmbAh, cool!14:10
bigjoolsme, sorry, late14:10
gmbschwuk gets a coconut.14:10
schwukw00t!14:10
gmb[TOPIOC14:10
gmb*sigh*14:10
gmb[TOPIC]14:10
MootBotNew Topic:14:10
gmb[TOPIC] Queue status14:10
MootBotNew Topic:  Queue status14:10
gmbCan you tell it's my first time, folks?14:10
gmbThe queue looks relatively clean. There are a couple of branches that have been there for a while but they belong to jamesh and jml...14:11
Rinchenmootbot virgin? :-)14:11
gmbChairman virgin, never mind MootBot.14:11
Rinchenaye aye14:11
gmbDoes anyone know the status of those branches?14:12
gmb[ACTION] gmb to contact jamesh and jml about the status of their overdue branches14:12
MootBotACTION received:  gmb to contact jamesh and jml about the status of their overdue branches14:12
intellectronicaone branch left on the queue which i'm reviewing and will finish after the meeting14:12
gmbintellectronica: Cool.14:12
gmbI think that things have been moving pretty smoothly queue wise14:13
gmbPQM's been struggling to keep up :)14:13
gmbSo, shooting onwards towards apotheosis...14:13
danilosmaybe an idea for new meeting topic? 'PQM status' :)14:13
gmbdanilos: Only if you want to hear me moan about getting rejected all the time :)14:13
danilos:)14:14
gmb[TOPIC] Mentoring update14:14
MootBotNew Topic:  Mentoring update14:14
gmbAny mentors / mentees got anything to say at this point?14:14
sinzuischwuk: I think you should take an on-call slot14:14
sinzuischwuk: you will have to when you graduate anyway14:15
schwukI was just going to say that I think I need to pick up more branches14:15
gmbRight.14:15
gmbsinzui, schwuk: In my experience, sharing an on-call slot works well.14:15
sinzuiIt's hard to get branches if you not on-call14:15
bacallenap probably a good idea for you too.  how are your tuesdays?14:16
allenapbac, Tuesdays are fine, so sign me up.14:16
bigjoolsI was going to try and join gmb for on-call but Soyuz has been freakishly busy this cycle :(14:16
bacit's a wiki -- sign yourself up!14:16
gmb[AGREED] allenap to take Tuesday on-call review slot with bac14:16
MootBotAGREED received:  allenap to take Tuesday on-call review slot with bac14:16
gmbbigjools: I was going to say that, but I saw your status on Monday and thought I'd give you some peace.14:17
gmbbigjools: Are you going to be busy this monday coming?14:17
schwukSharing the slot won't work for the next couple of weeks - Public holiday this Friday and planned leave next Friday. I'll see about taking another day next week.14:17
bigjoolsgmb: hopefully not, it's easter14:17
schwukgmb: Bank Holiday on Monday14:17
gmbHah.14:17
gmbSpot the ignorant heathen.14:18
schwukgmb: I'd have forgiven you if you weren't, you know, *British*.14:18
* gmb fails again14:18
gmbOh well.14:18
gmbSo, schwuk, you'll look at doing on-call some time next week, then.14:18
schwukgmb: yes - I'll update the rota.14:19
gmbbigjools: Do you want to do the same?14:19
bigjoolsI'll try and volunteer for on-call ad-hoc when Soyuz is calmer!14:19
gmb[AGREED] schwuk to look into doing an on-call day next week14:19
MootBotAGREED received:  schwuk to look into doing an on-call day next week14:19
gmb[AGREED] bigjools to insert himself in the on-call rota when Soyuz calms down14:20
kikobigjools, why don't you do half-days?14:20
MootBotAGREED received:  bigjools to insert himself in the on-call rota when Soyuz calms down14:20
danilosbigjools: that's going to be... never :)14:20
kikootherwise this "soyuz calms down" thing never happens14:20
bigjoolskiko: on-call is usually half a day anyway I thought14:20
kikoso..14:20
bigjoolsnext cycle will bne much easier14:20
kikosay yes14:20
kikodoubt that!14:20
bigjoolsare you not telling me something? :)14:20
bigjoolsok, I will join gmb a week Monday14:21
kikoyes, that you have a natural talent for underestimating! :)14:21
gmbbigjools: I'm off then. But barry'll be back14:21
bigjoolsgood point, I'll join barry then14:21
gmb[AGREED] bigjools to do on-call reviews on Mondays from 2008-03-3114:22
MootBotAGREED received:  bigjools to do on-call reviews on Mondays from 2008-03-3114:22
gmbAnyone got anything to add on this topic?14:22
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gmb[TOPIC] Review process14:22
MootBotNew Topic:  Review process14:22
gmbDoes anyone have any comments about the review process? Any ideas about how it could be made more efficient?14:23
gmbWell, we'll assume that we're doing it right for the time being, then :)14:23
gmbOkay, that covers it for today's super-short meeting14:24
bigjoolsone point I'd like to make14:24
gmbHurrah!14:24
bigjoolsto see if anyone agrees14:24
bigjoolssince the PQM queue is so big, is it worth merging multiple branches to speed things up?14:24
bigjoolsmultiple ones that are your own, I mean14:24
gmbbigjools: That screws up the changelog, though, and makes more work for mrevell and Rinchen.14:25
bigjoolswhat about if it's two [!log] jobs?14:25
schwukbigjools: I've seen intellectronica and cprov do that before14:25
Rinchen !logs are fine to merge together14:25
intellectronicabigjools: how confident are you that they will all pass? also, it's nice to have the entries in the changelog14:25
bigjoolsI try and do it too, with [!log] stuff14:25
sinzuiI think it should be considered and done when it does not mess with the review or the changelog14:25
intellectronicaschwuk: only for very trivial branches14:25
bigjoolsit's down to your discretion, but for really simple [!log] stuff it makes a lot of sense to me14:26
schwukintellectronica: but you have done it :)14:26
gmbFor simple, [!log] stuff, yes, I'd agree it's probably okay.14:26
cprovschwuk: as long as it doesn't mess your commit message, I'd say.14:26
RinchenSo, !logs are ok to merge but if you end up merging two regular items, please consider either updating the PQM subject to reflect both OR, sending mrevell a note with the RF number and the two commit msgs14:26
intellectronicaschwuk: i can't deny that, no :)14:26
gmbRinchen: Do you want to mail the lp@ list about this matter to clarify things?14:27
Rinchengmb, I'd be happy to. I'll do that now.14:27
gmbSince the queue was he-awge over the weekend.14:27
* bigjools is just looking for a way to help with the increased test run time and bigger PQM queues14:27
gmb[ACTION] Rinchen to mail the list about merging [!log] reviews.14:27
MootBotACTION received:  Rinchen to mail the list about merging [!log] reviews.14:27
gmbOkay.14:28
bigjoolscoolio, thanks14:28
gmbDoes anyone have any other business they'd like to bring up?14:28
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gmb#endmeeting14:28
MootBotMeeting finished at 15:29.14:28
gmbThanks folks!14:28
bacthanks graham14:28
bigjoolsthanks gmb14:28
intellectronicathanks gmb, excellent chairing, if i may14:29
gmbHeh, thanks.14:29
schwukthanks gmb14:30
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