| j1mc | anyone around? | 03:11 |
|---|---|---|
| sommer | j1mc: yo | 03:11 |
| j1mc | hi sommer | 03:11 |
| j1mc | i'm putting the finishing touches on xubuntu docs. cody somerville was going to help me build them, but i think he's a little busy lately. | 03:11 |
| j1mc | i was hoping someone could help me. | 03:12 |
| sommer | uh, I *may* be able to | 03:12 |
| sommer | have you built a package before? | 03:12 |
| j1mc | nope. not one. | 03:13 |
| j1mc | :) | 03:13 |
| sommer | that's cool, it's really not that hard | 03:13 |
| sommer | best place to start is the packaging guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 03:14 |
| j1mc | i think i can ping mrpouit for help. cody said that he'd be willing to help me out (i just remembered) | 03:14 |
| sommer | cool, the getting started link will point you to which packages to install | 03:15 |
| sommer | I've never actually built the doc package, but if you have any specific questions just let me know | 03:16 |
| j1mc | thanks, sommer | 03:19 |
| j1mc | the server docs have really improved a lot for this release. i think it's great. | 03:19 |
| sommer | thanks, they were in need of a few updates :-) | 03:20 |
| j1mc | :) | 03:21 |
| sommer | also mdke can probably answer any package related questions, but he's probably not on at the moment | 03:22 |
| j1mc | sommer: do you have access to updating the ubuntu global.net file? the kernel version listed isn't correct. | 03:26 |
| j1mc | it says 2.6.22, and hardy uses 2.6.24 | 03:26 |
| sommer | I think you should be able to update it | 03:26 |
| j1mc | ok | 03:27 |
| sommer | I did ask mdke about it and he recommended to update all branches | 03:27 |
| sommer | and since I don't have them all checked out, he said he'd update it | 03:27 |
| sommer | if you have them checked out I'd say go ahead and update it | 03:27 |
| j1mc | i don't know about glibc, but i've checked the other ones. | 03:28 |
| sommer | heh, I'd imagine that glibc has been updated as well | 03:29 |
| j1mc | would it be under package libc6 (do an apt-cache show libc6) i show version 2.7 for glibc, based on that | 03:31 |
| sommer | ummm... I think so, but you might want to double check | 03:33 |
| j1mc | /lib/libc.so.6 (entering that command gave me the info) | 03:35 |
| sommer | ah, I guess I'm not 100% sure, is libc the same as glibc? isn't glib a gnome library? | 03:36 |
| sommer | I'd imagine it is | 03:37 |
| sommer | cause there isn't a glibc in dpkg -l | grep glib | 03:37 |
| j1mc | but wouldn't the "g" stand for gnu? | 03:37 |
| j1mc | gnu c library? | 03:37 |
| sommer | heheheh... yep, your right | 03:38 |
| sommer | I think I was thinking of gtk or something | 03:38 |
| j1mc | :) | 03:38 |
| j1mc | sommer: what did i just do?? | 03:55 |
| j1mc | all of the updates are there, but the history isn't correct now. | 03:56 |
| j1mc | crap | 03:56 |
| j1mc | mdke is going to kill me. | 03:56 |
| sommer | the history isn't correct? | 03:58 |
| sommer | which commit do you mean? | 04:00 |
| j1mc | check your email | 04:02 |
| sommer | how about 3656 | 04:02 |
| sommer | did you do a bzr push after a bzr merge? | 04:02 |
| nixternal | j1mc: my battery died | 04:03 |
| j1mc | ah, ok | 04:03 |
| j1mc | sommer: yes | 04:03 |
| j1mc | sommer: all of the docs are ok in terms of content, but the history is screwed up | 04:04 |
| sommer | it's not a big deal (I don't think) what happens is that a merge affects your local copy | 04:04 |
| nixternal | j1mc: it is right on LP and my local history | 04:04 |
| nixternal | the history matches just fine here | 04:04 |
| j1mc | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy | 04:05 |
| sommer | so when you then push it the repo the history goes along as well | 04:05 |
| sommer | I'm pretty sure it's just a bzr thing | 04:05 |
| sommer | heh... sort of a pun ;) | 04:05 |
| j1mc | sommer: yeah, but it still sucks. and why doesn't it happen to other people? | 04:06 |
| sommer | I've done a bzr bind on my check out, which makes it act pretty much the same as svn | 04:06 |
| sommer | when I do bzr commit it automatically goes to the repo | 04:06 |
| sommer | you can find the command to bind the repo at the bottom of the repository wiki page | 04:07 |
| sommer | I think it's just bzr bind bzr+ssh://path/to/repo, but you'll probably want to confirm that | 04:07 |
| j1mc | i found it... | 04:10 |
| j1mc | thanks. | 04:10 |
| j1mc | is there any way to fix this, though? | 04:10 |
| j1mc | i'm embarrassed. | 04:10 |
| sommer | don't be, others have done the same thing, and the content is the important thing anyway | 04:10 |
| j1mc | i guess this way it will make it look like i wrote all of the documentation for ubuntu, though. | 04:11 |
| j1mc | which is great. | 04:11 |
| j1mc | um... but i wish there were a way to fix it. obvs... you all have accurate local histories at this point. | 04:12 |
| j1mc | CRAP! i was trying to be helpful. | 04:12 |
| sommer | there probably is, but I'm far from a bzr expert | 04:12 |
| j1mc | i'll ask in bzr | 04:13 |
| j1mc | #bzr | 04:13 |
| nixternal | damn, the firefox start pages are a mess | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | :( | 04:22 |
| j1mc | kgoetz: :( | 04:22 |
| kgoetz | j1mc: i was watching your bzr question - i did the same thing to myself a while ago | 04:23 |
| j1mc | mdke: sommer nixternal http://pastebin.ca/948485 | 04:25 |
| sommer | j1mc: wow... we should turn on that options, heh | 04:27 |
| j1mc | yeah | 04:28 |
| sommer | I really wouldn't sweat it, ping mdke tomorrow and see what he wants to do | 04:28 |
| sommer | maybe send an email to the doc ml to expect a few messages, then do the proposed fix? | 04:29 |
| * kgoetz suspects now is a bad time to run bzr up | 04:29 | |
| kgoetz | s/up/merge | 04:29 |
| sommer | I updated, but then I'm also working in an update :-) | 04:29 |
| j1mc | yeah, a day before string freeze i screw up the history. | 04:30 |
| j1mc | trying to be helpful | 04:31 |
| * kgoetz passes j1mc the lamp of shame | 04:31 | |
| kgoetz | :P | 04:31 |
| * j1mc puts on lampshade | 04:31 | |
| sommer | no worries, the history shouldn't be affected by the freeze | 04:32 |
| sommer | at least I don't think it gets translated, heh | 04:32 |
| j1mc | entering the command "bzr log --show-ids > ~/Desktop/ids" does show everything correctly. | 04:35 |
| j1mc | (i sent the output to a file cos there's a lot of it) | 04:36 |
| j1mc | i sent matthew a note about it | 04:36 |
| j1mc | he probably won't be available for a while now cos he's flying over from england to kick my ass. | 04:37 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 04:37 |
| sommer | lol, just get in some good quick shots while he's jet lagged | 04:37 |
| nixternal | bzr commit --fixes lp:bug_num | 04:49 |
| nixternal | great flag right there...never knew about it until just now | 04:49 |
| nixternal | it will add a link in the description showing the new fix | 04:49 |
| j1mc | bzr bind... how about that one? | 04:49 |
| j1mc | that's the best one ever | 04:49 |
| nixternal | hell no | 04:49 |
| nixternal | bzr co | 04:49 |
| nixternal | that's all I do | 04:49 |
| j1mc | but you can't commit locally if you do a co | 04:50 |
| nixternal | don't need to | 04:50 |
| nixternal | all of my fixes go right into the repo for everyone | 04:50 |
| nixternal | when it comes to funky setups, I am not a bzr fan | 04:51 |
| nixternal | Mercurial and git are good for funky stuff like that ;p | 04:51 |
| kgoetz | hehe. when it comes to funky setups i still think patches are cool :P | 04:51 |
| nixternal | very true, I am with you there | 04:51 |
| nixternal | I like the bundles feature of mercurial | 04:52 |
| j1mc | i would be much happier right now if i had just done bzr diff > patch and emailed someone. | 04:52 |
| nixternal | lol | 04:52 |
| j1mc | F*CK | 04:52 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 04:52 |
| nixternal | and with bzr co, I don't have to worry about mucking up the history :p | 04:52 |
| j1mc | with bzr bind you don't have to worry about mucking up history either | 04:53 |
| nixternal | j1mc: did those fixes in pastebin work? | 04:53 |
| j1mc | i haven't tried. | 04:53 |
| j1mc | i don't want to send out 108 emails to the entire doc team from launchpad. | 04:53 |
| j1mc | not w/o people being aware of it | 04:53 |
| nixternal | j1mc: oh well, mdke and I did it from dapper -> feisty with translations | 04:54 |
| nixternal | we have like 6mb emails too :) | 04:54 |
| nixternal | s/have/had | 04:54 |
| nixternal | to bad there isn't such a thing like 'svn commit -m "SVN_SILENT: foo foo foo foo"' | 04:55 |
| nixternal | as long as the triggers are added | 04:55 |
| j1mc | right... | 04:55 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 04:55 |
| j1mc | do you think i should try the comment from lifeless? he's an old hand at bzr development, so i trust him. | 04:56 |
| nixternal | I would | 04:56 |
| nixternal | if it messes up, blame him :p | 04:56 |
| j1mc | kgoetz: what do you think? | 04:57 |
| kgoetz | j1mc: i rec'n you should try it out. | 04:58 |
| sommer | +1 from me, what's the worste that could happen :-) | 04:58 |
| kgoetz | j1mc: we all support your actions, until you send the emails :P | 04:59 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:59 |
| * j1mc goes to join #bzr again to ask another question | 05:01 | |
| * kgoetz watches | 05:01 | |
| * nixternal laughs | 05:01 | |
| j1mc | haha | 05:02 |
| sommer | hrmm... doc.u.c doesn't seem to be updated | 05:05 |
| j1mc | you need to make sure you refresh the page | 05:08 |
| j1mc | i've encountered that quite a bit | 05:08 |
| j1mc | we could all set our email notifications to "no emails" and then turn it back on. | 05:09 |
| j1mc | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy > edit subscription | 05:10 |
| j1mc | kgoetz: are you following in #bzr? any thoughts? | 05:14 |
| kgoetz | j1mc: let me read up (being tought perl by my boss atm... | 05:16 |
| kgoetz | i think you branch from the last commit befor yours. try it out, just stop following lifeless' steps where you commit back to LP :) | 05:18 |
| j1mc | kgoetz: or sommer ... could one of you do "bzr log --show-ids > ~/Desktop/ids" and pastebin the top of the output from that log? | 05:42 |
| kgoetz | sommer: is probably your best bet | 05:44 |
| kgoetz | as my repo is about a week old (when i last hacked on the docs) | 05:44 |
| j1mc | right... and he committed the last valid commit. | 05:44 |
| sommer | j1mc: the file is pretty big | 05:52 |
| j1mc | sommer: right... | 05:52 |
| j1mc | bzr log --show-ids > ~/Desktop/ids | 05:52 |
| sommer | want me to email it to you | 05:52 |
| j1mc | sure | 05:53 |
| j1mc | jwcampbell ate gmail.com | 05:53 |
| sommer | on the way | 05:54 |
| j1mc | thanks... | 05:55 |
| kgoetz | *grin* @ ate | 05:56 |
| j1mc | :) | 05:56 |
| sommer | np, bed time for me | 05:56 |
| sommer | later all | 05:56 |
| j1mc | ok... | 05:56 |
| j1mc | thanks!! | 05:56 |
| kgoetz | later mate | 05:56 |
| * kgoetz nurses his could-happen-but-just-on-edge-currently rsi | 05:57 | |
| j1mc | rsi? | 05:58 |
| kgoetz | repeditive strain injury | 05:58 |
| j1mc | :( | 05:58 |
| kgoetz | eg, typing | 05:58 |
| * kgoetz reads doco to try and avoid pain | 05:59 | |
| j1mc | i have the command ready, but i'm just apprehensive | 06:03 |
| j1mc | bzr branch -r revid:asommer70@gmail.com-20080318135647-hbbpj5bl819nu1oa trunk local; cd local; bzr merge -r revid:jwcampbell@gmail.com-20080315024243-bzrus01hxn3r6v9y ../trunk; bzr commit; bzr push --overwrite ../trunk | 06:03 |
| kgoetz | i understand your nervousness | 06:07 |
| kgoetz | want my advice? | 06:07 |
| j1mc | sure | 06:07 |
| kgoetz | run ` bzr commit; bzr push --overwrite ../trunk` as a second command | 06:07 |
| kgoetz | and check what has changed after the first bit runs | 06:07 |
| j1mc | my gut is to send the chat info to mdke and let him decide | 06:08 |
| j1mc | what do you think? | 06:08 |
| kgoetz | i think run the first bit, and if your not positive it'll do what you want, wait for mdke | 06:08 |
| j1mc | "the first bit" being... | 06:09 |
| kgoetz | 16:33 < j1mc> bzr branch -r revid:asommer70@gmail.com-20080318135647-hbbpj5bl819nu1oa trunk local; cd local; bzr merge -r revid:jwcampbell@gmail.com-20080315024243-bzrus01hxn3r6v9y ../trunk; | 06:09 |
| kgoetz | s/;$/$/ | 06:09 |
| kgoetz | eg. stopping before you commit back | 06:10 |
| j1mc | and then checking the log... | 06:10 |
| j1mc | good idea | 06:10 |
| kgoetz | :) | 06:11 |
| j1mc | hm, this may take a while | 06:14 |
| j1mc | it's going though | 06:15 |
| kgoetz | it may take a while yeah :) | 06:16 |
| * kgoetz wonders if theres been any updates to the [ed,k]ubuntu docs (if there hasnt, no need for me to pull again) | 06:16 | |
| nixternal | just firefox startpage updates | 06:26 |
| nixternal | probably make a few changes tomorrow if I have time | 06:27 |
| kgoetz | cutting it fine :) | 06:27 |
| nixternal | as fine as possible...tend to do that every release | 06:31 |
| j1mc | woot | 06:46 |
| j1mc | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy/changes | 06:46 |
| j1mc | i fixed it | 06:46 |
| kgoetz | :D | 06:48 |
| j1mc | kgoetz: are you getting a flood of emails? | 06:49 |
| kgoetz | j1mc: i'm not part of docteam | 06:49 |
| j1mc | ah, ok | 06:49 |
| kgoetz | i'm heading to dinner+ home | 06:50 |
| kgoetz | catch you later all | 06:50 |
| j1mc | later! | 06:52 |
| * j1mc goes to bed | 06:52 | |
| George | New bug: #203827 in ubuntu-doc "serverguide error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203827 | 07:00 |
| George | New bug: #203829 in ubuntu-doc "server guide error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203829 | 07:05 |
| cge | I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm rather confused by the MacBookPro page on the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro). Why does it have a bizarre warning at the beginning, before a bunch of random information about things like proprietary programs for theming vista? Is the warning at all valid, or is it just the result of some misinformed editor? | 07:49 |
| mdke | cge: that is seriously weird | 07:52 |
| cge | mdke: There seems to be a group of one or two editors very strongly responding to any attempts to remove some of the stuff. | 07:52 |
| cge | I can't figure out how to get information on the launchpad users behind the usernames, so I have no idea who they are. | 07:53 |
| mdke | yeah | 07:54 |
| mdke | there are clearly parts of the page that are inappropriate | 07:54 |
| mdke | also, the whole page should be moved to help.ubuntu.com | 07:54 |
| cge | I was wondering why it was on wiki.ubuntu, yes. | 07:54 |
| mdke | I'll move it now, it will provide an opportunity to remove the vista stuff | 07:55 |
| cge | thank you | 07:55 |
| mdke | cge: moved. I've deleted the sections dealing with Windows and OSX - I will try and contact the author to discuss | 08:04 |
| cge | Very good - thank you. I'll also try to update it if I have time in the next few days. | 08:05 |
| sommer | mdke: I don't think doc.u.c has been updated for a while... at least the latest serverguide changes aren't showing up :-) | 13:15 |
| === jonasbjo1k is now known as jonasbjork | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #204030 in ubuntu-docs (main) "package ubuntu-docs 7.10.5 failed to install/upgrade: fork falhou" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204030 | 20:05 |
| l3on | Hi... I'm walking into wiki and find this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KennethBaafour | 20:12 |
| l3on | Nothing strange by a quick look... but look at attachfiles ;) | 20:13 |
| l3on | Here is the right place to comunicate it? | 20:13 |
| l3on | mdke: are you there? | 20:17 |
| cge | Now we're going to have a revert war on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro it seems. I had hoped that sort of thing was limited to Wikipedia... | 21:34 |
| seisen | somebody delete before? | 21:37 |
| cge | A user keeps adding a bunch of stuff about Vista themes, games, and whatnot, and keeps adding it back in whenever anyone removes it, even if it's mdke doing the removal... | 21:38 |
| mdke | l3on: what's up? | 22:18 |
| l3on | mdke: files attached to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KennethBaafour were full of spam... | 22:21 |
| l3on | linked to porn site & co... | 22:21 |
| l3on | I deleted them... | 22:21 |
| mdke | l3on: thanks for doing that. You can also report the username responsible in #launchpad and ask for the account to be deactivated | 22:22 |
| l3on | mdke: controll before ;) | 22:22 |
| mdke | l3on: sorry? | 22:23 |
| l3on | nothing mdke, I've read that you'll contact them... I've read wrong :P | 22:25 |
| mdke | :) | 22:25 |
| l3on | ;) | 22:26 |
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