[00:33] Heya gang [00:34] * ajmitch hides [00:35] hey bddebian [00:35] * ScottK2 sees ajmitch and wonders what he's hiding. [00:35] heya bddebian. [00:35] Hi protonchris, ScottK2 [00:36] * bddebian shines a light on ajmitch [00:36] bmk789: sorry, I upgraded to Hardy and my 3G modem didn't work anymore :/ [00:38] Ubuntu: upgrade and simplify your life. [00:38] bmk789: if you haven't discovered how to uuencode the file yet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/BinaryFilesInDiff (dunno why I wrote all that if I could have explained the same to you with two lines, but well... :P) [00:39] * RainCT wonders why 3G works out of the box in Hardy where network-admin theoretically has no support for it but doesn't work anymore on Hardy where it has support for GPRS/UTMS devices :P [00:40] thanks RainCT [00:57] good night all === _czessi_ is now known as Czessi === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [01:44] RAOF: refers to gnome-do, actually === bmk789 is now known as you_guys === you_guys is now known as bmk789 [02:09] Hobbsee: Ah. Ok. [02:09] What part seemed to be wrong? [02:10] RAOF: i dont' know if it's because i was using an old version, but... [02:10] oh, hang on. [02:11] RAOF: would be nice if gnome-do --help worked. [02:11] RAOF: and the tab completion in zsh for it [02:13] Heh. [02:13] Yes, it would. This is kinda being worked upon (moving to the ndesk getopt library will bring it in for free). [02:19] ah goody [02:19] RAOF: it wouldnt' keep working [02:19] RAOF: so, how do i launch the lp plugin? [02:21] tab launchpad nautilus bug search [02:21] For example [02:22] In what way "wouldn't keep working"? [02:22] I've not had it crash on me. [02:23] i haven't been able to reproduce the "wouldn't keep working" - seems i needed to restart X or something [02:23] i get "no results for nautilus" [02:24] Hm. My do-enabled computer is not netted at the moment. [02:24] Let me see... [02:29] RAOF: I wonder if Do plugins have to register themselves, and if so, if there is a way to see which ones have done so [02:30] Hobbsee: So, I go: space -> lau(nchpad) (This brings up the launchpad icon in the first pane, selected text in the second pane, and project page in the third pane) [02:30] Then nautilus, to make that the search item, then bug se(arch) to select "ubuntu bug search" [02:31] it sounds like a useful tool [02:31] StevenK: It does. ~/.xsession-errors should include a list of all the plugins it loads. [02:32] Or, of course, the terminal you run it from. [02:32] yummy [02:33] yeah, that's working [02:33] forogt i had a few lp bookmarks already [02:33] Right. It'll pick those up, too :) [02:34] (But now prioritise the launchpad plugin, if you use it a lot) [02:34] yup === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [03:27] keescook: thanks for the acpi-support upload (and thanks to blueyed, though he's run away) [03:46] Adri2000: There are people in #ubuntu+1 whining about python-wxgtk2.8 being broken. [04:47] is there anything I can do with bug #172300 so that it doesn't get overlooked for hardy? [04:48] I've got an sbuild/LVM question. To use mk-sbuild-lv do I need to have a volume group with unallocated space? [04:49] oops, meant that for ubuntu-devel [04:49] my guess is that I do, but before I go resizing stuff I'd like to make sure [04:54] LaserJock: Yes, yes you do. [04:56] RAOF: is resizing safe to do with LVM? I'm guessing so [04:56] LaserJock: First you need to resize the filesystem itself [04:56] oh dang [04:56] forgot about that [04:57] LaserJock: If you're using ext3, that's okay, reiser I've got no clue, and XFS can't be shrunk [04:57] I've got all ext3 [04:57] Then reboot into single-user, unmount the partition you want to shrink and run resize2fs [04:58] I can't do it logged in now? [04:58] just unmount the partition [04:58] Depends where it's mounted [04:59] Like /usr you'd to be in single-user, but /media/junk is fine now [04:59] nothing special, I have a /data partition [04:59] Ah. Then umount it, fsck it, and resize2fs it [04:59] reiser can also be shrunk, if you feel the need. [04:59] I'd prefer reiser to not be used. :-P [05:00] XFS on laptops! [05:00] * StevenK isn't playing *that* game [05:01] ext4 on laptops? :) [05:01] XFS really *really* doesn't like sudden power disruptions [05:01] Such is my 3rd party understanding, yes. [05:02] I will use XFS on server if I need online resizing, but only if it has a UPS [05:02] I don't know why though. I thought journals were meant to magically make gold nuggets out of incomplete transacitons. [05:03] ok, so with have 3 different release I want to have like 15GB of free LVM? [05:03] Give or take, that sounds about right. [05:04] "XFS practices a type of journaling called "metadata journaling." This means only the inodes are journaled, not the actual data. This will preserve the integrity of the file system, but does not preserve the integrity of the data." [05:04] "As noted, the actual data tends to be considered rather boring and unimportant in file system design." -- I note that Ted T'so disagrees with that statement. [05:05] do I need <# of chroots> or <# of chroots>+1 ? [05:05] # chorrts +? 1 [05:05] Lag FTW! [05:05] s/W/L/ [05:05] well. like if I want to support 3 release, do I need room for 3 or 4? [05:05] 8 [05:05] StevenK: Um... who thinks the actual data is boring & unimportant in FS design? [05:05] LaserJock: 4 [05:06] You need room for 3 releases, plus room for the snapshot, so 4 [05:06] RAOF: SGI [05:06] that's what I thought [05:06] Designers of XFS. Right. [05:06] Yup. [05:06] Fun, huh? [05:06] That seems an odd statement for a FS designer to make publically. [05:06] Well, it wasn't made by SGI, but more by conjecture [05:07] I just noticed a SGI as the comeback kid the other day when doing stock market analyst reports [05:08] RAOF: That was taken from a blog entry explaining XFS, so isn't taken from SGI. [05:08] * StevenK sighs. [05:08] Right. [05:08] * StevenK wishes CDBS was slightly more transparent than a house brick. [05:09] heh [05:09] RAOF: That sigh wasn't directed at you, rather CDBS [05:09] Niether was my "right" directed at your sigh :) [05:10] That bit I figured. :-) [05:10] k, mk-sbuild-lv has: # Allocate the "golden" chroot LV [05:10] sudo lvcreate -n "$CHROOT_LV" -L 5G "$VG" [05:10] And? [05:11] why do I need 5GB? [05:11] aren't chroots normally like 500MB or so? [05:11] LaserJock: Because the builds are done in a chroot that is limited to that size. Try building, say X in a 500Mb chroot [05:12] ahhh, that makes sense of course [05:12] I was still thinking of it using / but that's silly [05:12] And if it's using /, you're doing it wrong [05:12] :-) [05:13] * StevenK should clean up the seven chroots he has [05:14] once schroot 1.1.6 is in the archive (intrepid), I'll be re-arranging mk-sbuild-lv to use a common build area [05:15] it's not presently possible to do it and retain one's sanity [05:15] Yay kees! [05:15] the reason for the (wasteful) sizes of both the chroot LVs and the snapshots (4G) is to account for very large builds (kdebase) [05:15] as it turns out, 5G isn't enough for OOo [05:15] heya StevenK :) [05:16] * StevenK remembers discussing this at UDS and AllHands [05:16] in the new arrangement, the chroot will only need enough space to grow for build-deps [05:16] and I use a common 15G build filesystem [05:16] keescook: Don't make me hit you with a spec. :-) [05:16] hehe [05:17] the common build area also addresses the surprising speed concerns that soren demonstrated [05:17] Speed concerns? [05:17] (writing to a snapshot is about 4-8% slower than writing to a native filesystem) [05:17] And just as long as schroot can be backported, I'll be happy. [05:17] Oh. Didn't know that one. [05:17] backported? to hardy? sure, just grab the Debian 1.1.6 and slap it in place [05:18] Oh, so the Debian release already does it? [05:18] that's what I'm using current on Hardy. Well "does it" meaning "allows arbitrary mounts" yes [05:19] the horror of a custom script I wrote to do it -- that's not published, but I can put it up as a demo somewhere... one sec [05:19] Haha [05:21] I am to lazy to futz around with chroots nowadays, I have virtual ubuntus and kubuntus running everywhere [05:21] would 4G handle most builds? [05:21] Probably most [05:22] sbuild helpfully tells you in the build log how much space something took [05:22] LaserJock: I only had to push it there to handle kdebase. everything else is tiny by comparison. :) [05:22] * StevenK plays the OOo card [05:23] I guess I could always make bigger ones if I need to [05:23] And they can resized thanks to the magic of LVM [05:23] Er, can be [05:23] I just don't have a ton of diskspace for stuff I'm not using [05:24] * StevenK has 124Gb in VFree (from vgs output) [05:24] I hate you ;p [05:24] Hah [05:24] * RAOF wants some of StevenK's HDD [05:24] It's only 250Gb SATA [05:25] what I really need is to blow away the Vista partition :-) [05:25] Most of my large stuff is on the 800Gb LVM in my fileserver [05:25] it's taking 114GB [05:28] keescook: Does this "horror of a custom script" replace or augment mk-sbuild-lv? [05:28] StevenK: what does VFree give, unallocated space? [05:29] Yeah, unallocated space in the VG [05:29] StevenK: it augments schroot. Here's a write-up: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kees/schroot/README [05:30] StevenK: I'm uncertain how to modify mk-sbuild-lv to support it -- I'll worry about that in intrepid [05:30] keescook: I'm interested in this also, as as of Monday, I've joined the amd64 crowd, with some disk space to go with it, so dynamic chroots in terms of size sounds great. [05:31] TheMuso: cool, yeah. I've dropped all my schroots down to 500M now. What a fantastic savings in space. :):) [05:31] s/now/each now/ [05:31] Heh [05:32] Having one chroot for the 6 build environments I build in has to a good thing. [05:32] keescook: But how big an lv do you ahve for expansion? [05:32] * StevenK is happy to wait, given the unallocated space he has to burn [05:33] I have a 15G build lv -- which is used by any running sbuild [05:33] ooo thats really sweet! [05:33] But what about concurrent sbuilds? [05:33] it's safe for concurrent builds [05:33] Ok cool. [05:34] as long as they don't need more than 15G combined. :) [05:34] we'll see what happens the next time I have to do a security update of kdebase [05:35] (I wonder if 500M is actually enough -- the default debootstrap partition is already 358M) [05:35] keescook: You might play the "Here Riddel, *you* deal with it" game? :-) [05:35] Er, Riddell [05:36] VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree [05:36] systemvg 2 24 1 wz--n- 694.82G 19.82G [05:36] I could really use to clean up [05:36] Way cool [05:38] SOunds good, will keep it in mind once I get this new box fully in commition. [05:40] alright, sweet. makin' my first sbuild chroot [05:41] If it breaks, keescook is over -> there [05:41] * StevenK grins [05:42] do you guys use LV snapshots to play around in to like for test installs? [05:42] I use LV snapshots to test installation and such like [05:42] that's wasn't a particularly great sentence [05:42] my mother would cry [05:43] Hah === twanj__ is now known as twanj [05:44] so it seems Ubuntu isn't a Summer of Code organization this year [05:46] LaserJock: Yeah I use lv snapshot chroots for package installation/testing. Very handy as you don't have to worry about cleaning up. [05:46] Even if you break it badly. [05:46] yeah, I occasionally use pbuilder --login for that [05:46] but generally just have some chroots hanging around [05:47] if I can us shcroot snapshots for that instead then I can ditch the chroots and save some space I think [05:47] LaserJock: I use schroots for install and other testing when it's easier than testing in a kvm [05:48] ah, I don't quite have the luxury of kvm [05:51] StevenK: I've added another horror-show commandline to the README for doing a bulk shrink of the "golden" LVs [05:51] Heh [05:52] "keescook, the Stephen King of CLI" [05:52] haha [05:52] hm 19G free is now 56G free. nice [05:53] err.. that's not right [05:53] LaserJock: I find user testing is better if you are actually running as a user. [05:53] as it allows you to test non-root stuff. [05:54] yeah [06:01] keescook: Your horror-show script also makes assumptions ;-) [06:01] hmm, so does sbuild use an apt-cache? [06:02] LaserJock: For what? [06:02] keescook: You can get the VG name if you use lvs -v [06:02] well, for caching build deps [06:02] StevenK: ah, good call [06:03] StevenK: mos tpeople just refuse to build OOo [06:03] okay, 72G up from 19G. I'm happy now [06:03] Heh [06:04] Hobbsee: i think it's the computers that do the refusing of OOo :) [06:04] I think artigas and sejong just plain refuse to try. [06:04] haha [06:04] keescook: only if the users are stupid enough to let them even try... [06:05] :) [06:05] s/stupid/crazy/ perhaps [06:05] "That package *again*? That one gives me a CPUache!" [06:05] Hobbsee: last time I tried it, my snapshot ran out of space, which confused the ext3 layer so badly I had an unkillable "mv" using 100% CPU [06:05] I'm really ... afraid of OOo now [06:06] Haha [06:06] haha [06:06] anyway, it's past my bed time. StevenK, let me know how the common-build partition hack works out. *wave* [06:07] dear update manager, please stop stealing my focus! [06:07] keescook: If I can be convinced to try it. [06:07] and again. [06:08] Heh [06:10] * Hobbsee wonders why the default option for gnome-do is to open a .odt file in a terminal... [06:10] it certainly has it's oddities [06:12] it's really useful though :) [06:12] From the sounds of it, more useful than Katapult [06:12] yeah, it's got a few more plugins now [06:13] can't decide whcih theme i prefer, either :) [06:13] It also seems Do will deal with mutliple options being returned better, and now learns [06:13] yes [06:13] Super+space won't work on my laptop, though [06:13] I'm too used to QuickSilver I guess [06:14] LaserJock: That's because you're an Apple fanboi [06:14] I expect to be able to wait a sec and retry if I don't get what I want [06:14] StevenK: not a fanboi I don't think. I don't even run Leopard ;-) [06:15] StevenK: you can change it [06:15] Hobbsee: I assumed I could === zachy is now known as zakame [06:29] here all this time I thought Gnome Do was the perfect Quicksilver ripoff^Wknockoff [06:32] anyone who could help me understand how NFS works, it just aint workign for me, chuckles [06:33] MrGray: this is the furthest thing from a support channel you will find around here, unless of course it has to do with packaging [06:33] ah sorry didnt know it was meant for that onlym my bad, have a nice day, yawns, smiles. [06:34] Ubuntu Masters Of The sUpport [06:34] MrGray has a funny way of emoting, squints [06:34] hahaha [06:34] * nixternal winkies [06:35] although, in some countries that could mean something totally illegal to do in public [06:43] Good morning [06:51] good morning === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [06:51] morning dholbach! [06:52] hi warp10 [06:56] right. replied to emgent's motu application. [07:22] Hobbsee, Hi! [07:22] hey cool [07:23] Whats sup [07:24] Hobbsee, should a MOTU should know programming ? [07:24] cool: not required but it helps [07:25] what Amaranth [07:25] said [07:26] Which languages are most widely used? [07:26] POSIX shell; makefile; python; C [07:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/FAQ#head-1459f4f9811bc9dde6cae1af4c36c954ba1cad39 :-) [07:27] dholbach, Thank a lot [07:27] * cool checks [07:28] having some detective skills? [07:28] do i need to spy my Girlfriend? [07:28] :P [07:28] no, but investigate why stuff stopped building/working/etc :) [07:28] ohk [07:41] Sebastian, it would look better like this "ChanServ removes channel operator status from Sebastian" [07:42] cool: It would be better if ChanServ wouldn't op me in the first place :) [07:42] Sebastian, for that reduce you level in ACL [07:42] your* [07:44] * cool checks ACL [07:45] Sebastian, can't find your name in Channels Access List :S [07:46] Weird. [07:46] oh damn, did a staffer *still* not do that? [07:48] Hobbsee, only you could add new ops, rest have level 10 [07:48] sladen: ping [07:48] cool: i know. [07:50] cool: unfortunately, i'm not the channel contact, and the staffers don't seem to actually be on irc [07:51] yeah i see, sladen is the channel contact [07:51] but he has just level 10 ? [07:52] apparently so [08:10] ScottK2: arghhh. I guess it's bug #203526 ? [08:10] Adri2000: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: HTTP Error 404: Not Found [08:10] ubotu: part === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:58] bug 203526 [08:58] :/ dang ubotu [08:59] Launchpad bug 203526 in wxwidgets2.8 "python-wxgtk2.8 uninstallable due to post-installation script error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203526 === fta_ is now known as fta [09:03] Does anyone here use ppaput? I see that the script was moved into a module, but what happened to the command line tool? [09:04] soren: it is not shipped in the binary package any more [09:05] bug 194634 is referenced in the changelog [09:05] Launchpad bug 194634 in ubuntu-dev-tools "ppaput incorectly asserts it's part of the MOTU sponsorship process in the code and in the man page" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194634 [09:05] That doesn't really answer my question :) [09:07] *shrug* It's not like doing it manually is really difficult. [09:39] <\sh> oh dear god...I need to upgrade ftecc too for nexuiz :( [10:01] siretart: hey, any news for ffmpeg? :) [10:10] slomo_: well, sort of. have you seen the recent messages on pkg-multimedia? [10:10] siretart: nope, have a link or shall i search? :) [10:11] looking [10:12] slomo_: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/, look in both february and march [10:12] siretart: thanks :) [10:13] debian bug #471136 is perhaps the best status update [10:13] Debian bug 471136 in ffmpeg "Please package upstream snapshot 20080206" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/471136 [10:14] Do I need to log a bug for moving a package form multiverse to universe or do I just need to bug archive admins? [10:16] siretart: would be really nice to have that in lenny ;) [10:16] slomo_: well, any help is welcome! [10:18] slomo_: Do you think I should bug developers again on #gstreamer about VCD support? [10:19] slytherin: oh, definitely... tim has forgotten about the cdxa stuff it seems === gaurish is now known as cool === festor is now known as festor_ === festor_ is now known as festor === festor is now known as festor_ === festor_ is now known as festor === doko_ is now known as doko [11:28] \sh: I also have problems with this flash crap ;) though not with a headset === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:48] heya [12:11] can anyone tell me what is exactly difference between icedtea and openjdk? [12:13] <_ruben> bah .. pdebuild is messing with me :/ [12:13] <_ruben> (read: cant get it to work) [12:14] slytherin: you mean the Ubuntu packages by those names, or the projects themselves? [12:14] jdong: ubuntu packages [12:15] slytherin: openjdk-6 is an implementation of released/"stable" Java 6 while icedtea-java7 is an implementation of upcoming Java 7 [12:15] slytherin: i.e. one's more or less stable, the other's an alpha/VCS snapshot of an indevelopment language stack [12:16] slytherin: hence why it's probably not the best idea to use the latter when the former is available :) [12:18] jdong: Java6 is not Free AFAIK. So I don't think openjdk packages contain Java 6. [12:18] slytherin: http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk6/ [12:18] whats the correct syntax for closing a bug via changelong? === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:19] jussi01: LP: #xxxxxx [12:19] jussi01: LP: 123456 [12:19] oops forgot # [12:19] no brackets? [12:19] brackets aren't required [12:19] jussi01: optional [12:19] jussi01: brackets are not necessary [12:19] ok, thanks :) [12:19] jussi01: you should use vi. [12:20] jussi01: only the LP: #123456 is globbed for. Brackets can be placed as you please. [12:20] jussi01: make sure the final .changes/.dsc you generate has the Launchpad-Bugs-Closed: header [12:20] or whatever it's called [12:21] slytherin: from what I understand, openjdk-6 is essentially the OpenJDK 6 (half-free) sources bootstrapped with IcedTea's build strategy [12:21] jdong: Thanks for that link. I didn't know it existed. :-) So now openjdk packages are my best bet. It gives me latest, Free, stable java. :-D [12:21] slytherin: indeed. I'm very happy for its existence :) === ogra_cmpc_ is now known as ogra_cmpc [12:21] doko: poke; what do you think about shoving openjdk-6 into gutsy-backports so that Gutsy users have access to it too? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:22] can I poke someone to have a look at bug 201480 ? [12:22] Launchpad bug 201480 in alsa-tools "Icon has no transparency/white background. " [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201480 [12:22] jdong: I don't mind that much, but please wait for the next upload before backporting [12:23] doko: certainly. Do you think it'll directly backport with no source changes, or is there some voodoo magic? :) [12:24] hmm, I think you have to turn off lzma compression, or replace it with bzip2 compression [12:26] doko: There are at least two packages which build-depend on icedtea/openjdk but are in multiverse. rest of the dependencies are in main. Do you think I should file bugs or just poke some archive admin? [12:26] slytherin: s/main/universe/ ? [12:27] doko: no, s/multiverse/universe [12:28] doko: I know you're a busy guy, but would you be willing to shove some version of openjdk-6 that you like into gutsy-backports? It would save me the uncertainty of making those changes myself and the hassle/delay of finding a core-dev sponsor to do it :) [12:29] jdong: I need to upload this week to hardy, then you could backport. [12:29] uh.. why is "Screen and Graphics" in Applications -> Others in Hardy? [12:30] RainCT: +1, in fact it was supposed to be not in menu. Looks like someone changed .desktop in wrong way [12:31] slytherin: why shouldn't it be in the menu? o_O [12:32] RainCT: The new 'Screen Resolution' tool replaces it. In fact that was the changelog entry for displayconfig-gtk [12:32] ah I see [12:33] slytherin: shouldn't displayconfig-gtk be just uninstalled then? (but keep the menu entry for the case someone wants to install and use it?) [12:34] RainCT: I haven't used it. So I am not sure if there is anything in displayconfig-gtk that is not in screen resolution tool. So I can't comment. :-) [12:34] you can choose the driver, for ex. [12:35] RainCT: have you filed the bug for this? I will add my comments to it. :-) [12:36] RainCT: Of course selecting a driver is not something you want average user to do. :-) [12:37] a bug is already there [12:40] btw, is it a known issue that admin -> networking still asks for the password (with gksudo)? [12:43] RainCT: for display or for editing? [12:44] slytherin: for display [12:45] RainCT: problem with your setup then. It doesn't ask for password here and other 2 machines. :-) [12:45] slytherin: and I *can't* edit it running it from the menu; the "unlock" button is disabled as it's already running as root, but all edit options continue locked [12:45] starting it from the terminal (without gksudo) I can unlock it and it works correctly (beside don't working with my UMTS modem, which worked in Gutsy :P) [12:46] RainCT: never seen those symptoms [12:48] strange.. the .desktop file is calling network-admin without gksudo === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:53] someone here? [12:53] !justask [12:53] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [12:54] Hey, Hey, I do know the answer. It's "Yes", isn't it? [12:55] persia: you need a break form MOTU work. :-P [12:55] * persia is trying to stop having a break currently, and expects the equinox to be assistive [12:55] so, i have an idea for a programm and i'd like to discuss it. the idea is to make something that could be called easyshare or similar, should be - from a users perspective - a little form in which you can select a folder, and then click a button "share" to share that folder. (user gets asked for a password if he wants one, but thats system independent). the program would continously see of others on the network have made easyhshares and dis [12:55] play them in the network neighbourhood. i think it should be possible with avahi, what do you thin? [12:55] persia, hard times to have a break :) [12:56] DktrKranz: Exactly :( [12:56] now ubuntuwire's back, so we need to hurry! [12:56] stefano_: yes, something like that is wanted, but it is preferred that it be possible to share files with a default Windows install with it. [12:56] * Fujitsu apologises for not working out how to get it back earlier. [12:56] DktrKranz: Rather, we have the list of things we haven't done in larger flashing lights :) [12:57] Fujitsu, thanks for bring it back in time! :) [12:57] stefano_: http://code.google.com/p/giver/ <- how does that look compared to your idea? [12:57] james_w, woulnt it be possible if you stick to the bonjour protocol? (windows user would have to install bonjour) - but that would rid them of all the hassle with samba [12:57] persia, now we have our tools back in action, so we can announce more "fix-it" days focused on some activities [12:57] If it wasn't for some routing errors a couple of months back, I wouldn't have been able to revive it. [12:58] stefano_: yes, but that's not default windows install. [12:58] james_w, seems like a very nice project [12:58] Fujitsu: In that case, are they really "errors"? [12:58] persia: They stopped various people from accessing it for some hours, so yes. [12:59] Ah. Comprehension dawns [12:59] james_w, i just had to use samba and though "couldnt it be easier", i guess not... samba is, from a usability standpoint (!) - not ideal at all [12:59] good morning people [13:00] persia: They resulted in imbrandon giving me the console password to poke further, which turns out to be the same as that needed for the VM management software. [13:00] Best password management practices for the win! === Nightrose_ is now known as Nightrose [13:01] I think they're probably looking at the same auth DB. [13:03] DktrKranz: u-u-s day :P [13:03] \o/ [13:03] yep! [13:03] I'm doing some [13:04] \o/ \o/ \o/ [13:04] * Fujitsu adds a link to the rebuild results. [13:04] To the people who brought back qa.ubuntuwire.com. A big Thanks. :-D [13:04] and with my shiny new debomatic, process is quicker :) [13:06] stupid question, how can I disable emerald? :P [13:08] RainCT: aptitude purge emerald ? [13:10] RainCT: I remember there was a applet when I used beryl that let me choose between different window managers. Not sure if it is still present [13:14] hellboy195, beagle fixed in sid too [13:14] just too late to sync from it :) [13:15] DktrKranz: damn it ^^.But I'm impressed. with no C# knowledge fixed it. Thouch it's only in configure [13:15]