[01:01] <ere4si> thunar is just hanging - it can't open any folder at all
[01:13] <TheSheep> ere4si: tried to strace it?
[01:15] <ere4si> TheSheep: I have nfs mounts from a file server and the server wasn't on - turned the server on and thunar works - thnx anyway
[01:15] <TheSheep> ere4si: I think you can set the timeouts for nfs somewhere
[01:16] <ere4si> TheSheep: that will be handy :)
[01:16] <TheSheep> ere4si: but I can't find it now :(
[01:17] <ere4si> TheSheep: google will solve it - thnx :)
[01:20] <ere4si> TheSheep: from this site - http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-nfs-mount.html - timeo=14 is needed in fstab
[01:21] <ere4si> hmmm - I already have that in fstab...
[01:38] <ere4si> TheSheep: just needed "soft" in the fstab entry :)
[02:52] <joeyjojo> hello everyone
[02:52] <joeyjojo> is there a way to update the menu panel when new non-repository apps are installed
[02:53] <joeyjojo> like a menu updater?
[02:53] <RedHeron> Not sure what you mean.
[02:53] <RedHeron> Skype isn't in the repository, and that went into the menu just fine for me (as an example).
[02:55] <joeyjojo> i am talking about apps that don't do that automatically and are NOT from the repositories or deb packages
[02:57] <joeyjojo> some of the apps such as games are way to old for network play for example so I have to grab the installer and patch em from scratch
[02:57] <joeyjojo> the stuff in the repos is like years old
[02:58] <joeyjojo> is there a way to add them to that pull down thingie - whatever its called in xfce
[02:58] <joeyjojo> in the games section?
[03:00] <RedHeron> I think there's a menu editor, but I can't seem to find it... I'm kind of a xubuntu noob myself.
[03:01] <RedHeron> Ah, it's under "settings"
[03:01] <joeyjojo> Settings >> Menu Editor is for the log out thing only it seems and the docs are not really that helpful
[03:03] <joeyjojo> anyone?
[03:06] <RedHeron> Sorry, don't know.
[03:15] <diginux> greetings, quick question, why does xubuntu have rsyncd installed and running by default?
[03:17] <RedHeron> I just installed, hold on and I'll check.
[03:17] <RedHeron> Nope.
[03:17] <RedHeron> ps -aux doesn't show rsyncd
[03:19] <diginux> hmmm, i had a fresh install too
[03:19] <diginux> root@heisenberg:~# update-rc.d -f rsyncd remove Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/rsyncd ...
[03:19] <diginux> root@heisenberg:~# /etc/init.d/rsync stop * Stopping rsync daemon rsync                                           [ OK ]
[03:19] <RedHeron> Oh, that just means "yes, it's stopped"
[03:19] <diginux> i just did a fresh ubuntu install as well on my other computer, same thing, it had the startup script in /etc/rc2.d/
[03:20] <RedHeron> Hrmmm...
[03:20] <RedHeron> What does ps -aux say?
[03:20] <diginux> well it is shutoff now, i didnt check ps -aux before i did /etc/init.d/rsyncd stop
[03:21] <RedHeron> Do another stop on it, see what it says
[03:21] <diginux> hmm yeah, it just keeps saying the same thing
[03:22] <diginux> but. am i right in thinking if it is in /etc/rc2.d/ that means it was set to start automatically?
[03:22] <diginux> hmm
[03:22] <diginux> maybe im wrong in this thinking..
[03:22] <diginux> root@heisenberg:/etc/rc2.d# ls S20rsync
[03:22] <diginux> S20rsync
[03:23] <RedHeron> Is that a symbolic link?
[03:24] <diginux> root@heisenberg:/etc/rc2.d# ls -lh S20rsync
[03:24] <diginux> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2008-03-07 16:44 S20rsync -> ../init.d/rsync
[03:25] <diginux> check this out..
[03:25] <diginux> root@heisenberg:/etc/rc2.d# /etc/init.d/rsync start
[03:25] <diginux> root@heisenberg:/etc/rc2.d# ps aux | grep rsync
[03:25] <diginux> root      7852  0.0  0.0   2972   748 pts/2    R+   22:25   0:00 grep rsync
[03:25] <diginux> root@heisenberg:/etc/rc2.d#
[03:25] <diginux> so i guess its there but doesnt start
[03:25] <diginux> must just not start if there is no config maybe or something
[03:25] <diginux> so i guess it wasnt running by default, just confused me why it was in there to begin with
[03:26] <RedHeron> Might be there so that the permissions are correct when it's installed?
[03:27] <diginux> i guess that is possible
[03:27] <diginux> hard to say
[03:27] <RedHeron> Yeah, not being behind the distribution, difficult.
[03:28] <diginux> thanks for the help
[03:28] <RedHeron> np
[03:28] <RedHeron> On of the aspects of Ubuntu. :-)
[03:28] <RedHeron> One*
[03:29] <RedHeron> In your "home" directory, look in the "Examples" folder and watch the ogg video of Nelson Mandela. :-)
[03:29] <RedHeron> It's why I went to Ubuntu in the first place.
[03:31] <diginux> haha
[03:31] <diginux> weird
[03:32] <RedHeron> Weird?
[03:32] <diginux> not used to distros having videos :)
[03:32] <RedHeron> Hehehe.... it's so that we can do our own viral marketing.
[03:33]  * RedHeron plans to get Ubuntu running on one of his servers and then proudly displaying the logo.
[03:33] <RedHeron> As "powered by" with the Apache and Ubuntu logos.
[04:48] <Ultraputz> hey is there a way to get the xubuntu install cd out of the sources so you can net-install packages?
[04:48] <Ultraputz> i'm trying to get build-essential onto an old laptop and the cd rom has decided to die.
[04:49] <ere4si> synaptic has a checkbox to download packages only
[04:51] <ere4si> open /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the cd
[04:51] <Ultraputz> still says "please insert the disk labeled: xubuntu 7.10 gutsy ... "
[04:51] <Ultraputz> excellent
[05:02]  * RedHeron would like to see a distro with X, KDE, Gnome, etc., all on one distro and all available for login and working.
[05:09] <gaurdro> how stable is selecting the gutsy-proposed option for what updates to install?
[05:10] <ere4si> gaurdro: where do you get that option?
[05:12] <gaurdro> synaptic->settings->repositories->updates.   it's also called pre-released updates.
[05:13]  * RedHeron is away: Busy for a bit... away!
[05:15] <ere4si> I asked because gutsy has been released for 5 months now - and I don't have that option
[05:16] <gaurdro> hmm.  that's odd.
[05:19] <gaurdro> do you have any other repositories installed?
[05:20] <ere4si> yep - universe & multiverse
[05:20] <gaurdro> I mean,  like medibuntu or apt.last.fm ?
[05:23] <ere4si> nope
[07:06] <Ultraputz> ok, next. two wifi monitors have appeared in the sysem tray. any ideas?
[11:46] <benpicco> If I cancel moving of several files, the transered files will keep their new place and will be removed in the old place where not yet moved files remain untouched, right?
[11:47] <ere4si> yep
[11:54] <pulseezar> hello everyone, I have a graphics problem on my laptop and was hoping there would be someone around to give me a hand?
[11:54] <Dougal> I've downloaded a .Bin file which is supposed to be the 'installer' for the linux/x86 release of Realplayer. What should I be doing with the file? Total linux newb. Till now I've only downloaded things I can find in the Synaptic Package Manager
[11:55] <Dougal> I've only *installed* things. Sorry.
[11:56] <pulseezar> not sure that there's anyone around here mate, might be better to try #ubuntu
[11:57] <Dougal> Thanks for the advice.
[12:11] <RedHeron> Simple solution: don't use RealPlayer... it's actually (seriously) considered malware. :D
[14:31] <ant0n> Hi
[14:32] <ant0n> My X did just "krasch" and Im running in low-graphich mode, how to do now? I've downloaded the driver via the terminal but I can't figuer out how to start using that one. Any tips ?
[14:35] <RandomDestructn> nice. xfdesktop is using 2 gigs of ram.
[14:35] <RandomDestructn> perhaps thats a bit much
[14:36] <RandomDestructn> another 2 gigs for xfce-menu-plugin
[14:36] <RandomDestructn> lol
[14:41] <diginux> whoever makes the ubuntu installer, I think it should have some kind of note or something that says hyperthreading is disabled by default.. took me a while to figure out why my system seemed boggy compared to gentoo
[15:00] <maxamillion> diginux: it shouldn't be disabled by default
[15:01] <maxamillion> diginux: with the upstart boot process and the generic kernel, the module to support it should be loaded automatically
[15:02] <diginux> maxamillion: i had to do this in order to get it to work: http://www.livingubuntu.com/?p=44#comment-943
[15:03] <diginux> maxamillion: you sure it is supposed to be enabled by default?
[15:03] <maxamillion> huh .... must have been a flaw since i last ran ubuntu on a HT enabled processor
[15:03] <maxamillion> yeah, it used to work "out of the box"
[15:03] <diginux> maxamillion: http://www.livingubuntu.com/?p=70
[15:03] <diginux> weird
[15:08] <maxamillion> hmmm... maybe it wasn't ubuntu (i use a lot of different distros all the time, so i could just be mistaken)
[15:21] <ant0n> Is it possible to change the panel to mac-theme without compiz?
[15:30] <gotisch> hey in Ubuntu there is system->administration->login window / security: Deny TCP connections to Xserver . Whats that counterpart in xubuntu?
[15:30] <maxamillion> ant0n: not sure, you could poke around xfce-look.org ... there may be a theme
[15:34] <ant0n> maxamillion: Ok, thanks for that one :)
[15:34] <maxamillion> ant0n: np, there's lots of fun stuff on that site
[15:34] <gotisch> ah
[15:34] <gotisch> sduo gdmsetup :)
[15:34] <maxamillion> gotisch: i'm not too familiar with how gnome does things like that so i don't know what would be comparable .....
[15:34] <ant0n> I see, but unfortunality I can't use copmiz :(
[15:34] <maxamillion> ohhhh
[15:35] <maxamillion> gdm ... nvm, i just didn't understand
[15:35] <maxamillion> ant0n: you don't need compiz
[15:35] <ant0n> Compiz is cool :P
[15:35] <maxamillion> ant0n: there is plenty of non-compiz stuff on that site
[15:35] <gotisch> do i need to restart after that or something?
[15:35] <ant0n> Ah, okej, I'll look around a bit ;)
[15:39] <ant0n> I'll try some new icons, I hope I succes to install it =P
[15:41] <ant0n> How do I install the new icons, there was no "how to" included in the download and I'm not that good in english, if someone would try to explain to me it would be great :)
[15:48] <cyberix> zoredache: trying to get tray icon of gnunet-gtk to work
[15:48] <maxamillion> ant0n: some of the icon packages are in the repositories and you can just install them with the package manager of your choice, otherwise you just unpack them into /usr/share/icons/
[15:49] <ant0n> Ah, okej :) Thanks ;)
[15:51] <maxamillion> np :)
[15:52] <ant0n> But there is one prblm, I cant move a file to that dir, it just goes back when I tryes to put the map there.
[15:56] <maxamillion> ant0n: are you doing it with sudo or as root?
[15:56] <maxamillion> you don't automagically have permissions to those files
[15:56] <ant0n> No, can i choose the option root?
[15:57] <ant0n> I can't choos root/sudo I think, or I dont know how =P
[15:57] <maxamillion> there is a level of understanding about the system that you need to understand before we continue this conversation
[15:58] <maxamillion> errr ... you need to grasp*
[15:58] <ant0n> Yeah, I think so to, I'm  learning n00b.
[16:02] <maxamillion> that's good, everyone has to start somewhere BUT at the same time, for me to start to explain things to you, i would simply be re-typing things that many people before me have taken time to carefully publish prestine documentation in order to distribute knowledge
[16:02] <Binky> Hello
[16:02] <maxamillion> hi
[16:02] <Binky> can anyone help me, i'm trying ot set up duel monitors
[16:04] <maxamillion> ant0n: here is some good xfce4 general documentation, but you might want to look into some of the material here ---> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_Unix/Linux as well
[16:04] <maxamillion> ant0n: sorry, didn't paste the link for the xfce docs ---> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml
[16:04] <maxamillion> Binky: what graphics card?
[16:04] <Binky> geforce 7800
[16:04] <Binky> i downloaded the nvidea driver
[16:05] <ant0n> Maxamillion: Yes, i understand that to, I'll use google and see if I find something (I know there is a lot of good stuffs on google) :)
[16:05] <Binky> that got the duel screen working, but the desktop is now massive, no matter what resolution, i can move mouse around revealing what is off screen
[16:06] <maxamillion> ant0n: yes, google is a wonderful resource and you can even have google filter its searches for linux-only topics by going to www.google.com/linux
[16:06] <Binky> haha awesome i'm bookmarking that
[16:06] <ant0n> That's something new 4 me, nice function =)
[16:07] <maxamillion> Binky: ohhh ok, i've seen that before ... you might need to edit or re-do your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:07] <maxamillion> you probably just need to either add or edit some metamodes
[16:08] <Binky> ah ok, i've been trying to use the front end ubuntu stuff, but i've ended up with xorg.conf 1-7 xorg.conf failsafe 1-7 and some with the date after it as well
[16:08] <maxamillion> Binky: ahhh, ok ... well what graphics card do you have?
[16:09] <Binky> it's a real mess, and i can't seem to access route to delete anyone of them, sorry i'm totally new ubuntu
[16:09] <Binky> geforce 7800 gtx
[16:09] <Binky> how do i get root to delete some of these conf's? i tried su command, but my normal password not working and i've not set any others
[16:10] <maxamillion> Binky: sudo su -
[16:10] <maxamillion> Binky: then use your password
[16:13] <Binky> ah ok great got it
[16:14] <Binky> i'm in the xorg.conf i scrolled down to the hansol (my brand) monitor
[16:14] <Binky> and there's alot of lines of info giving different screen sizes and alot of numbers
[16:25] <Binky> maxamillion: would it have anything to do with the fact my xorg.conf is missing a screen section, i've got monitor but not a screen section, or is that normal for a duel view display?
[16:26] <Viaken> I'm having a bit of a problem with Xubuntu on this laptop. The battery monitor xfce plugin is ...flaky. gnome-power-manager isn't handling it any better, so when it's on battery power, I get no warning when it's about to die.
[16:26] <maxamillion> Binky: you might want to do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' in the command line and then use the nvidia-settings application to configure your dual monitors
[16:27] <Viaken> acpi -V displays correct info
[16:27] <maxamillion> Viaken: make sure the acpi support is being enabled in kernel level at boot, check your grub's menu.lst to make sure its not passing a 'noacpi' parameter
[16:29] <Binky> cool thanks
[16:31] <maxamillion> Binky: anytime :)
[16:34] <Viaken> maxamillion: ACPI is being enabled.
[17:01] <dezrik> why can't i install firefox 3.0?
[17:12] <zoredache_> dezrik: that is a good question, why can't you install firefox 3?  Perhaps you can tell us how you are trying to install it, or what error you are getting?
[17:13] <dezrik> Well I trying to find it in synaptic but i can';t find it
[17:13] <zoredache> if you are still using gutsy, it wouldn't bee in there since the selection of packages for gutsy was frozen back in October
[17:13] <test-3R> how do i check my version of xubuntu easily? is there commandline i can use?
[17:14] <test-3R> er OH
[17:14] <test-3R> "whoru"
[17:14] <dezrik> uname -a
[17:14] <zoredache> test-3R: lsb_release -a
[17:14] <test-3R> yeah UNAME is giving me the name i gave it which is BS name :)
[17:15] <MasterScript> hi
[17:15] <test-3R> "no LSB available" then it tells me im already running 7.04
[17:15] <MasterScript> how to connect to wirellss?
[17:15] <test-3R> i think i leave it. this has intel video . laptop.
[17:15] <test-3R> OLD hp
[17:15] <zoredache> !wifi | MasterScript
[17:15] <test-3R> ;)
[17:16] <ubotu> MasterScript: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:16] <MasterScript> thanks
[17:17] <test-3R> ive been testing with all sorts of stuff lately. i got Slax to work from USB stick, and it runs a ton. WINE apps. Pidgeon.
[17:17] <test-3R> its pretty kewl. i setup ubuntu on gForce2 box,too, and it has full CompizFusion running
[17:18] <gaurdro|away> has anyone turned on the gutsy-proposed updates option?
[17:18] <MasterScript> how to ssh to my ubntu?
[17:19] <test-3R> I have not, and i don't have much to test that on. most of my boxes are low version linux because they are too old to run newest with Fusion integrated
[17:19] <zoredache> install the ssh server if you haven't allready (sudo apt-get install openssh-server) figure out the ip address, then connect
[17:19] <test-3R> i rly hope they figure out how to enable Hardware Accell on ALL cards for Fusion to run
[17:19] <zoredache> if your computer is behind a nat then you might have to setup portforwarding on the nat-device
[17:20] <test-3R> hey so i was trying to use SSH to connect to an SSH FTP the other day?
[17:20] <diginux> test-3R: use sftp
[17:20] <test-3R> couldnt get it to go from cmnd line. mighta! but it was full near the end trys. i ned to re-try
[17:20] <test-3R> yeah i think i tried that from cmndline
[17:21] <test-3R> normal ftp with GFTP is great
[17:21] <test-3R> there is option in there for your 'ssh' program
[17:21] <test-3R> Do i just put SSH into that box? or does that need more specific pointer in that?
[17:21] <test-3R> er
[17:21] <test-3R> i have openssh - so would i just put the name of that paket inh that box then?
[17:22] <zoredache> test-3R: gftp worked perfectly fine for me
[17:22] <test-3R> oh yeah it works great for normal FTPs. tested.
[17:22] <test-3R> :)
[17:22] <test-3R> but this special one is SSH/TT???  ftp
[17:22] <zoredache> I never use normal ftp... I am saying it is fine for sftp
[17:23] <test-3R> !!!!. OK, so in the setup for gftp, whn it asks for my secure SSH file pointer, in the box in the setup, if I type "sftp" into that box will THAT work?
[17:23] <zoredache> all you should have to do is select ssh from the connect drop down and it will work
[17:24] <test-3R> huh! OK i'll try.
[17:24] <test-3R> ty :)
[17:25] <test-3R> Hey theres some rly good knowledge/training on the NEWS right now
[17:25] <zoredache> obviously the host you are trying to connect to must have an ssh server installed already, and it must be allowed through any firewalls between you
[17:25] <test-3R> if u know what im saying u should chek it out
[17:25] <test-3R> zoredache > yeah, naturally. Yeah I think his setup is fine its guys from IRC
[17:26] <test-3R> there are others that connect into his system from the chat - so it Must b setup ok
[17:27] <test-3R> this box is charging. ima show this laptop to a perspective employer soon
[17:28] <test-3R> (he wants me to network his new office, then actionscript insanity)
[17:29] <test-3R> i rly hope it goes thru! & I hope I'm able to use *BUNTU to help it work. then I can credit u guys & it will be kewl.
[17:29] <test-3R> :D
[17:29] <MasterScript> cannot detect a wirelless connect device
[17:29] <MasterScript> how to add it?
[17:31] <gaurdro> it can't find a network or it can't find a wireless card?
[17:32] <MasterScript> wreless not in listed
[17:32] <MasterScript> just have 2 connection
[17:32] <MasterScript> Wired & Moden only
[17:32] <test-3R> MasterScript & gaurdro >   zoredache tried to show you the help - here -
[17:32] <test-3R> !wifi
[17:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:33] <MasterScript> i am read it
[17:33] <test-3R> see- if you use the ! then what you need it will tell you link. its nifty
[17:33] <test-3R> oh
[17:33] <dezrik> where is Source.list?
[17:33] <test-3R> mmmmmm - what version are you on? I am on slightly old Xubuntu
[17:33] <zoredache> dezrik: /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:33] <dezrik> Thank you
[17:34] <MasterScript> no wireless extension
[17:34] <MasterScript> lol
[17:34] <test-3R> did you have your wireless card plugged in?
[17:34] <test-3R> when u ran the install CD?
[17:35] <zoredache> MasterScript: have you tried searching google with a search string like 'linux wireless {your device model}'
[17:35] <zoredache> so like 'linux wireless dlink 522tx' or whatever?
[17:35] <test-3R> zore > yes that's where I began, I believe. Then I found out I can use MADWIFI drivers
[17:36] <dezrik> Why do i always get -> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? Y
[17:37] <zoredache> dezrik: a maintainer of a repisotory has the ability to use GPG to cryptographically sign all the files in a repository so that you know that they are all real and haven't been corrupted
[17:37] <zoredache> dezrik: but some repository maintainers haven't set that up
[17:38]  * test-3R learns everytime he comes in here, LOL
[17:38] <zoredache> you might also need to import a gpg public key for the repository you have added into your apt-keychain
[17:39] <zoredache> dezrik: if you trust the repositories in your list, you can probably just answer 'y' yes and ignore the message
[17:40] <dezrik> Thats what ive been doing, i only have the ubuntu reps and mediabuntu reps
[17:40] <test-3R> zore >> without the GPG key - will the system still verify, by, say, MD5?
[17:40] <dezrik> i got firefox 3.0b4 installed. WOW its fast
[17:40] <test-3R> zore > or will the system simply install the pak even if it came across corrupt
[17:40] <gaurdro> how stable is the gutsy-proposed update option?  I don't care if functionality changes (IE new version) but I don't want a broken install.
[17:41] <test-3R> !update
[17:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:41] <zoredache> dezrik: for importing the mediaubuntu the key use: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[17:42] <dezrik> ty
[17:42] <dezrik> the only complaint i have about xubuntu is nm-applet
[17:43] <gaurdro> test-3R,  I"m not looking to upgrade the version of my install...
[17:43] <test-3R> oh you are asking about the Upper Right icon?
[17:43] <test-3R> the update from Tray? RUn update that is in tray
[17:44] <test-3R> but
[17:44] <test-3R> thats in Ubuntu
[17:44] <test-3R> I don't know what it will do to Xubuntu
[17:44] <test-3R> honestly - in the past many versions
[17:45] <gaurdro> I"m talking about synaptic->settings->repositories->updates->gutsy proposed.
[17:45] <test-3R> oh, snap. Um, they're prob alpha? maybe beta? itll prob break something. You prob know this.
[17:45] <test-3R> :D
[17:47] <gaurdro> yea prolly,  but i want to find someone who knows for sure, because in my experience, it's really hard to break ubuntu without manually messing with something.
[17:49] <test-3R> you've never used PyPar2, have you?
[17:49] <test-3R> or other buggy, weird, user made apps to do things, that I, find nessecary?
[17:50] <test-3R> it all dpends on whats in it and whats its trying to do ultimately
[17:50] <gaurdro> I have used a few, but they weren't from the repositories.  thus manually editting.
[17:50] <test-3R> chek the pak descripts ? may B u want some and not Others?
[17:54] <test-3R> ive rly had mixed mixed results trying to CONFIG MAKE MAKEINSTALL on buntu, but i havent tried in a while
[17:54] <test-3R> sometimes it takes - other times its prob some weird DEP thats blocking it
[17:54] <test-3R> but what YOu';re talking about is pre-compiled, i believe, yes?
[17:59] <test-3R> HEY I got a good-n for you guys
[17:59] <test-3R> I got this hakt version of CDRECORD for doing very specific disks
[18:00] <test-3R> they are XA disks. a 600k sector in front, and several tracks after
[18:00] <test-3R> they must be precise
[18:00] <test-3R> DO you think the version of CDRECORD patched to NOT have a 2-sector-default-offset will work in BUNTU? or not?
[18:01] <test-3R> and what if I already have cdrecord installed? should I just Conf-Make-MIns the new one? WIll that just patch up where the files are sitting normally? or will that break it all?  :)
[18:07] <test-3R> I think I have to try it in older Ubuntu too probably
[18:07] <test-3R> the new ubuntu seems to have a power calibration issue with Both of my USB burners
[18:08] <test-3R> if i wasnt so chickensh*t id try it on this laptop but it is my 1-n-only  :)
[18:18] <test-3R> GAH ! I have meeting in 1.5 hrs, now! I hav to tune this box's Example Work!!!!
[18:18] <test-3R> time to sync with my new projects
[18:18] <test-3R> ez all kr3w
[18:18] <test-3R> :)
[18:45] <ant0n> Hi
[18:46] <ant0n> How to install a new theme in xubuntu? xfce
[18:54] <tuvook> !theme | ant)n
[18:54] <ubotu> ant)n: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:54] <tuvook> !theme | ant0n
[18:54] <ubotu> ant0n: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:24] <Askarii> I would need some help for adding new themes/icons
[19:25] <Askarii> I know i have to send them in usr/share/themes or usr/share/icons
[19:25] <Askarii> but its set to READ ONLY
[19:25] <Askarii> and i don't know how to change that :(
[19:25] <zoredache> as a regular user you can't write there.  You could get super-upser privileges with sudo
[19:26] <Askarii> even if i gave myself all rights?
[19:27] <hyakuhei> hrmm, I think I did something a bit stoopid.... I only had a gutsy server disc so I installed that and updated and then installed xubuntu-desktop. I had to change some linux-image stuff to get wifi working but I don't think I'm using an SMP kernel... I have a core2duo but /proc/cpuinfo is only showing 1 cpu...
[19:27] <hyakuhei> Is there anything I should have to install or typically do to migrate from *server* to xubuntu-desktop ?
[19:28] <zoredache> hyakuhei: what do you get from uname -r
[19:28] <Askarii> zoredache.... whats should I do exactly?
[19:29] <Stroganoff> Askarii: open terminal.
[19:29] <Askarii> i tried with terminal aswell :S
[19:29] <Askarii> but ok
[19:29] <zoredache> Askarii: I don't know...  If you want write access in those folders you will need to either change permissions (which will probably break things) or get root privileges with sudo...
[19:29] <Askarii> what is sudo?
[19:29] <zoredache> !sudo | Askarii
[19:30] <ubotu> Askarii: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:30] <Askarii> thx
[19:31] <Stroganoff> Askarii, also this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
[19:33] <Stroganoff> hyakuhei, you should use the alternate cd with cmdline install mode.
[19:42] <hyakuhei> Stroganoff, that wasn't and isn't an option right now
[19:42] <Stroganoff> i know :(
[19:42] <Stroganoff> i'm trying to find precise docs about the server iso
[19:42] <Stroganoff> can't even find the download right now
[19:43] <hyakuhei> zoredache, 2.6.22-14-386
[19:43] <hyakuhei> heh, irony
[19:43] <Stroganoff> there should be a MANIFEST file on the iso
[19:48] <leche> ls
[19:48] <leche> ups, sry xD
[19:50] <zoredache> hyakuhei: that kernel is for 386 cpu which are not multicore
[19:50] <hyakuhei> ok zoredache which should I be running ?
[19:50] <zoredache> hyakuhei: try doing an 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic'
[19:51] <hyakuhei> been there already, breaks wifi :'(
[19:51] <zoredache> actually try 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic'
[20:01] <zoredache> ls
[20:08] <TheSheep> zoredache: ls: Command not found
[20:09] <zoredache> OH NOES!  So that is what rm -rf does... :(
[20:09] <TheSheep> yes kids, be careful with that .*, it also matches ..
[20:11] <zoredache> Do you know if there is a way to hide an application from the 'alt-tab', but still have it visible and show up in the task lists and all?
[20:12] <TheSheep> zoredache: yes, there is the 'skip pager' hint
[20:13] <TheSheep> no, wait, that will hide it form the workspace preview
[20:13] <TheSheep> from
[20:13] <TheSheep> zoredache: the freedesktop.org standard lists all the hints
[20:13] <zoredache> skip_tasklist maybe...
[20:13] <TheSheep> zoredache: the stanrad is called XD-something-MP
[20:14] <TheSheep> XDCMP?
[20:14] <TheSheep> ICCCM :D
[20:14] <TheSheep> I knew my memories are uncanny
[20:19] <zoredache> TheSheep: yeah, skip_tasklist seems to be what I want... now my terminal with irssi is invisible... I should be able to avoid it much easier
[20:20] <TheSheep> zoredache: explring devislpie, eh?
[20:20] <TheSheep> zoredache: fine occasin to learn lisp :)
[20:22] <zoredache> I have been using it for a couple months.  Hopefully I'll be able to avoid typing 'ls' in the channel every other week now
[20:29] <TheSheep> zoredache: yeah, you will be typing (ls (x (cv xxx)))
[20:53] <adac> any idea what is wrong with the soud applet in the panel? when I try to add it i can't see it in the panel
[20:53] <adac> *sound
[20:54] <TheSheep> adac: yeah, it crashes for me too
[20:54] <adac> TheSheep: is there a solution for that? do you have 64 bit version?
[20:55] <TheSheep> adac: I have 32 bit system, but 64 bit cpu
[20:56] <TheSheep> looks like Bug #90261
[20:56] <adac> TheSheep: oh i see. I can remember the last time i installed xubuntu i had the same issues...this was a 32 bit version. But this weas some time actually a long tiime ago
[20:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 90261 in xfce4-mixer "Volume Control plugin can't be added to xfce4-panel" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90261
[20:56] <adac> still same problem it seems
[20:58] <adac> yes this is exactly what happens
[20:58] <adac> still not solved? that is strange
[20:59] <TheSheep> adac: I found out a workaround
[20:59] <adac> would say sound is something essential
[20:59] <adac> ;)
[20:59] <TheSheep> adac: remove the aumix keyboard bindings form keyboard settings
[20:59] <adac> yea? tell me
[21:00] <TheSheep> madness
[21:00] <adac> hehehe