| kickino | hello | 07:34 |
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| kickino | I've got a question because of "Ordering". There is conference for child in the end of April. And we would like to share some of the Edununtu CDs at our stall there. But I don't know if we can get some CDs in the short of time. :( | 09:00 |
| kickino | Somebody there who can help me in this point? | 09:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | did someone ping? i notice a highlight on this channel | 09:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kickino, if you request a custom shipit order, and give them the details of why you want them and how soon, they may be able to help you | 09:11 |
| kickino | Okay, I'll have a try. | 09:12 |
| kickino | But is it possible to get some CDs of my "local Ubuntu/Edubuntu"-group in the near? How can I figure out where the "next group" is? Maybe they can help me, too, and have got some CDs also? | 09:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm not sure i follow your question | 09:15 |
| highvoltage | kickino: usually a loco team is a national team. where are you from? | 09:45 |
| highvoltage | kickino: you should certainly be able to get into contact with your loco team and ask them to order some extra discs for you | 09:45 |
| kickino | Germany | 09:50 |
| kickino | highvoltage: Where can I find some information about my nationalteam? | 09:50 |
| ogra | kickino, just hang around here, juliux will likely show up during the day, he's deeply involved with the german LOCO and the ubuntu e.V. | 09:51 |
| kickino | ah. Nice, I'll wait for him. :-) | 09:52 |
| ogra | where in germany do you sit ? | 09:52 |
| highvoltage | kickino: there's also a german loco channel, which is quite large, at #ubuntu-de | 09:52 |
| kickino | ogra: Middle of Germany. Thueringia :) | 09:55 |
| kickino | highvoltage: oh. heh. I tried #edubuntu-de and this is quite small :) | 09:55 |
| * ogra waves from hesse | 10:02 | |
| kickino | ogra: hehe :) | 10:06 |
| juliux | RichEd, ping | 11:43 |
| RichEd | hi juliux | 11:44 |
| juliux | RichEd, do you know if there are some edubuntu 7.10 cds left? | 11:44 |
| highvoltage | yay, tomorrow is a public holiday \o/ \o/ \o/ | 11:45 |
| * highvoltage didn't know | 11:45 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :D | 11:46 |
| juliux | highvoltage, lol | 11:48 |
| juliux | highvoltage, in germany monday is also a public holiday;) | 11:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | one day at a time :) | 11:49 |
| highvoltage | juliux: here too! | 11:49 |
| laga | highvoltage: i didn't know either, so i gotta buy some food | 11:49 |
| highvoltage | but I knew that. so the added bonus of tomorrow just compounded the goodness of it ^_^ | 11:49 |
| RichEd | juliux: yes ... how many do you need ? | 11:54 |
| RichEd | you can mail marilize@canonical.com | 11:54 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: you didn't know it was easter friday ? | 11:55 |
| RichEd | and monday is off as well | 11:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | \o/ :) | 11:55 |
| * laga wonders about saturday | 11:55 | |
| ogra | RichEd, did you come around to test a cmpc install yet ? | 11:55 |
| RichEd | not sure if it's because of that whole nailing that guy to a tree, or lobbying from the chocolate cartels | 11:56 |
| RichEd | ogra: on the today list i'm afraid | 11:56 |
| ogra | oki | 11:56 |
| RichEd | last few days have not been productive | 11:56 |
| johnny | virtualbox users ? anybody using the e1000 driver? | 11:56 |
| ogra | highvoltage tested already a bit :) | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: nope, been too busy to pay attention! | 11:56 |
| * RichEd wonders how highvoltage missed the gazillion easter egg displays while he has been shopping | 11:57 | |
| highvoltage | RichEd: it's been a while since I went to any kind of shop :) | 11:57 |
| ogra | shops are overrated | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: and I use privoxy to filter out ads on the Internet | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: and google to filter out my spam | 11:58 |
| RichEd | ogra: i went in good faith to get a second 2GB USB yesterday ... and the traffic choas put a spanner in the works | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: and I mentally block out other people in the office when it sounds like they're talking about boring stuff. | 11:58 |
| ogra | ah | 11:58 |
| * RichEd wonders if i can do a USB to USB copy ? classmate to notebook ? | 11:58 | |
| ogra | RichEd, you can install to external devices, not sure i told you ... so you dont need to wipe the existing install | 11:59 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: are you going away for the weekend. maybe we should have coffee some time. maybe some time during next week too. | 11:59 |
| RichEd | ogra: ^ can i do USB-USB ? i.e. boot with new image on the USB stick and do the copy from classmate to notebook using a straight USB to USB cable ? | 12:00 |
| ogra | after you installed, yes | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: wouldn't it be easy to back up his current install to an installer disk using squashfs? haven't thought it through... but it could be a nice backup mechanism, don't you think? | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: usb to usb? how would that be done? | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | (between two notebooks) | 12:01 |
| ogra | well, you need two external devices for that | 12:01 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: not sure it can be done ... was spec-u-lating | 12:01 |
| highvoltage | ok, I thought RichEd meant directly from classmate to notebook | 12:01 |
| ogra | you boot from one, then dd the internal one to the spare external one | 12:01 |
| * ogra wonders why RichEd has *anything* on that crufty gutsy install thats worth keeping at all | 12:02 | |
| ogra | acrually i think /home was separate on the gutsy image already, should suffice to save the files from there | 12:03 |
| highvoltage | ogra: maybe he's sentimental? :) | 12:03 |
| RichEd | i had limited storage and backup space ... and not enough free time for clear headspace to juggle | 12:05 |
| RichEd | will move to the 8.04 beta | 12:05 |
| ogra | according to highvoltage even the za translations work fine :) | 12:06 |
| highvoltage | za-english, at least! | 12:06 |
| ogra | yeah | 12:06 |
| ogra | we dont ship any others :) | 12:06 |
| highvoltage | which I think is just english-uk with a few extra words :) | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | but yes, it works. | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | really!? wow, I didn't realise that. | 12:07 |
| ogra | (its in there only by accident actually, because its part of teh -en langpack) | 12:07 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: it works ! bevok ! | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: heh | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: it's actually spelt with an "f", but I think it's better that you spell it wrong, we don't want to learn the channel any nasty words :) | 12:08 |
| RichEd | ogra: did you see the /msg ? or are you on the small screen ? | 12:08 |
| ogra | i am on the small screen since 6 weeks (and didnt touch any other in that time), i see your message though | 12:10 |
| ogra | you dont see mine ? | 12:10 |
| ogra | i thought i registered | 12:10 |
| ogra | RichEd, see me now ? | 12:11 |
| neopsyche_ | wifi card need to setup as AP.. anyone? | 13:02 |
| juliux | whole sentence? | 13:03 |
| laga | heh, how ironic. | 13:04 |
| highvoltage | neopsyche_: I think I've seen howto's for that on the wiki | 13:04 |
| highvoltage | can't remember where though. | 13:04 |
| juliux | laga, yes | 13:05 |
| juliux | neopsyche_, http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org/LinuxAccessPoint | 13:05 |
| neopsyche_ | juliux, thanks | 13:21 |
| dtrask | morning all! (at least it's morning here) | 13:37 |
| stgraber | hi dtrask | 13:37 |
| * dtrask is offering FREE snow to anyone who wants it....we have plenty here | 13:38 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the new edubuntu artwork is fairly :o | 13:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dtrask, a few days i'd have taken some | 13:38 |
| stgraber | dtrask: no thanks, I already have enough here :) | 13:39 |
| dtrask | Kamping_Kaiser: We'll be skiing into August here in Maine ;-) | 13:39 |
| dtrask | little worried about flooding though....hope we can just "melt" without the assistance of rain ;-) | 13:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dtrask, :o | 13:41 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser finds the whole snow thing quiet novel | 13:42 | |
| dtrask | You'll like this....I'm sitting in my classroom...typing on my System76 laptop (Darter 2) which comes preloaded with Ubuntu while watching my students use a Smartboard attached to Edubuntu as well as using their Edubuntu thin-clients...they are 1st graders 6 year olds working on changing fonts and stuff in OpenOffice....pretty cool | 13:45 |
| * laga is afraid that those 1st graders at openoffice than him | 13:46 | |
| * laga adds "are better". | 13:50 | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser notices the hardware tool available in applications -> system tools doesnt seem to offer a way to make a launchpad account. (i also think it shouldnt be in applications, but thats just me) | 13:51 | |
| Nubae | hey, has anyone tried out the elonex laptop with edubuntu? | 13:58 |
| Nubae | http://www.elonexone.co.uk/ | 13:58 |
| Nubae | looks like a really nice thin terminal option for kids, at the price its selling it (99 pounds) seems even better than the eee pc or classmate | 13:59 |
| Nubae | but maybe its not powerful enough | 14:00 |
| Nubae | It has a LNX Code 8 mobile 300mhz processor and 128 meg ram | 14:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | ah, the brick | 14:03 |
| * ogra_cmpc wouldnt want one | 14:03 | |
| Nubae | the brick? :-) | 14:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | it looks like a brick with all the electronics in the lid instead of the base | 14:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | websites nicely broken | 14:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ogra_cmpc, its an odd look for sure | 14:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | and given the specs i think it doesnt behave much differently to a brick | 14:04 |
| Nubae | I've currently been tasked with setting up the servers for Open learning exchange Nepal, for their pilot projects, I'm looking at all the alternatives to the OLPC XO | 14:04 |
| Nubae | Ubuntu seems keen on using classmates, any particular reason? | 14:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | the olpc (even i dont like the HWS at all) will be heaps better that this thing | 14:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | it wouldnt even make a nice thin client | 14:05 |
| Nubae | yeah OLE nepal has 200 of them, but for older kids I'm not convinced its the best choice | 14:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | get a classmate or eeepc | 14:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Nubae, i'm with you there | 14:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | all those things have micro keyboards :( | 14:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | micro keyboards rule | 14:06 |
| Nubae | there is also the ECS G10 coming out | 14:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | you get used to it pretty fast | 14:06 |
| Nubae | 10 inch screen and 8 hour battery life | 14:06 |
| * ogra_cmpc at least | 14:07 | |
| Nubae | the field is transforming so quick not sure what to focus on... but for now its the XO laptop cause of the durability and mesh neworking | 14:07 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser hates small keyboards | 14:07 | |
| * ogra_cmpc did as well until he got his first classmate | 14:08 | |
| ogra_cmpc | today my prob is rather that i feel lost on my normal one | 14:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | you have to move your hands so much | 14:08 |
| Nubae | so ogra, how does it compare to an XO? | 14:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | classmate | 14:08 |
| Nubae | yeah | 14:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | way beyond | 14:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i have an xo, and i've used classmates. just cant like it when i spend so much time on real keyboards | 14:08 |
| stgraber | ogra_cmpc: you also do less typing mistake than with the cmpc :) | 14:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | like i always like to say: classmate == cut down laptop, OLPC == pimped mobilephone | 14:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | stgraber, yeah, i just often hit the caps key | 14:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | thats a bit badly placed | 14:09 |
| Nubae | k, so its really about speed? | 14:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | and i'm missing my right shift | 14:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | Nubae, its abut usage ... OLPC will still need a year or so to even get a handfull usable apps running ... and even then they will be sluggish | 14:10 |
| Nubae | I now have to convince them to drop Fedora on the server and not build a gui from scratch a la ebox | 14:11 |
| Nubae | yeah so, u think classmate is best option at the moment for older kids? | 14:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | eeepc is the best opiton imho ... that will change with the next gen classmate which is already in the works though | 14:12 |
| Nubae | eeepc is more expensive though isn't it? | 14:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | no idea what the eee costs atm | 14:13 |
| Nubae | the new one looks very nice eeepc 900 | 14:13 |
| Nubae | but read the cost would be 499 dollars | 14:13 |
| Nubae | which seems high | 14:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | classmate was supposed to go out for 200 something | 14:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | but what i've seen so far was rather near 400 | 14:14 |
| Nubae | can one use ip6 instead of dhcp with pxe to hand out images? | 14:17 |
| dtrask | ogra_cmpc: at that price where's the advantage of the cmpc over the eeepc? | 14:18 |
| ogra_cmpc | dtrask, no idea, i'm not intel | 14:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | oh, btw | 14:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | dtrask, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/images/hardy/ | 14:19 |
| Nubae | so each server they want running at the schools (ole nepal this is) should run moodle, dansguardian, dhcp for the mesh networks and squid. My first thought was to install webmin, but maybe ebox would be better | 14:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | ebox is quite cool | 14:21 |
| Nubae | just that later on down the line has to be really easy to maintain by local nepali sysadmins/teachers | 14:21 |
| Nubae | I've taken a look at ebox, can one take out features relatively easily? | 14:21 |
| ogra_cmpc | ask in #ubuntu-server they maintain ebox | 14:22 |
| Nubae | oh, cool, will do | 14:22 |
| dtrask | ogra_cmpc: Thanks....I'll give it a shot later | 14:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | good | 14:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | note that it will wipe the device (and it might need a reinstall, i'm still fiddling wiht the best partition setup) | 14:23 |
| Nubae | its a good excuse for them to move from Fedora too ;-) I really want them to use debian or Ubuntu, but they're using fedora on the latops so don't know how easy it will be to convince them | 14:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | but its reasonably faster than gutsy wqas | 14:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | Nubae, just give them some ubuntu CDs and let them experience the difference | 14:24 |
| * dtrask steps away to teach spreadsheets to 3rd graders on Edubuntu thin-clients ;-) will check my screen as often as I can | 14:24 | |
| ogra_cmpc | :) | 14:24 |
| Nubae | do you know anyone using wireless thin clients? | 14:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | thats not possible | 14:26 |
| Nubae | not at all? | 14:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | WLAn has nothing like PXE | 14:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | you can build something that boots from a local flash disk or so ... but netbooting wont work | 14:27 |
| stgraber | you would need a kernel and initrd installed on the client (flash memory ?) and then some kind of update script checking kernel's version with the one on the server at every boot | 14:27 |
| stgraber | + add the wireless tools to the initrd | 14:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 14:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | including essid and key | 14:28 |
| dtrask | somehow you need to boot the device (even minimally) to load the wireless...right? I think some are doing something they call wireless thin clients, but they are not TRULY thin...they have something like flash memory to at least get the wireless up | 14:28 |
| stgraber | I started working on some kind of wireless thin clients a while back but haven't had time to get something working | 14:28 |
| Nubae | sounds interesting, certainly an alernative to running every client 'fat' | 14:28 |
| stgraber | I basically just did the kernel+initrd version checker | 14:28 |
| dtrask | koolu has some | 14:28 |
| dtrask | koolu.com I think | 14:28 |
| Nubae | and after that, software installation, home access, application usage happens remote? | 14:29 |
| stgraber | my idea was to get rid of the DHCP+PXE and just emulate it, so every boot the initrd checks the version of kernel and initrd on the server (using tftp-client) if they match it boots the same way a standard thin client would, otherwise it updates the local kernel+initrd and reboot | 14:29 |
| ogra_cmpc | cool | 14:30 |
| stgraber | once you have a way to boot the initrd with wifi support and with the same kernel version as the server, you can just boot as any other thin client | 14:30 |
| stgraber | the main problem then is the wireless network itself | 14:30 |
| stgraber | you'd need something of really fast or a lot of AP to have thin clients on wireless | 14:30 |
| Nubae | or mesh networking | 14:31 |
| Nubae | on olpc all the laptops run in adhoc mode, even when turned off | 14:31 |
| stgraber | something that can give all clients 1MB/s (watching youtube) would be good but the APs I have at school can only gives like 2-3MB/s for all clients ... | 14:32 |
| Nubae | bit individual connections are low bandwidth (11mb I believe) | 14:32 |
| stgraber | Nubae: yes, I tried one of those, not sure of how fast the network can be though | 14:32 |
| Nubae | well since the bandiwdth is shared across the mesh its probably faster than using individual APs | 14:33 |
| Nubae | interesting stuff for sure | 14:33 |
| memolibre | buenos dias | 15:09 |
| memolibre | como puedo adquirir una invitación en el canal de edubuntu-es | 15:09 |
| memolibre | hello | 15:16 |
| memolibre | as I can acquire an invitation in the channel of edubuntu-is | 15:17 |
| joebake1 | If you Ubuntu doesn't fix pulseaudio so that voip clients can work in 8.04 there will be mass defections from Ubuntu and it's derivatives. Please send the message on. | 16:41 |
| joebake1 | I think all that's necessary is to upgrade to the latest gstreamer. | 16:41 |
| neopsyche_ | is there any way i can check who banned me on ubuntu? | 16:49 |
| laga | joebake1: filing a bug report in launchpad and/or giving out the bug id in your message might be better.. | 18:37 |
| highvoltage | neopsyche_: yes, you can as on #ubuntu-ops | 19:27 |
| dasKreech | RichEd: ping :) | 19:50 |
| RichEd | dasKreech: pong | 19:57 |
| RichEd | not officially here ... family time ... can chat for a min | 19:58 |
| dasKreech | RichEd: I was asking if annma was invited to UDS ? | 19:58 |
| RichEd | i'll check with ogra_cmpc ... he mentioned today that there was a free spot he thought should go to her | 19:59 |
| ogra_cmpc | RichEd, well, anna isnt really dev ... she should go under edu | 19:59 |
| ogra_cmpc | thats actually wy i mentioned it :) | 19:59 |
| ogra_cmpc | anyway, nobody in the office anymore and its unlikely that someone is tehre over easter | 20:00 |
| ogra_cmpc | so we cant discuss it anyway atm | 20:00 |
| RichEd | i'll have to run it past my boss then ... ogra_cmpc you mentioned a dev cancellation in the same discussion, i thought that was the subs plan | 20:00 |
| ogra_cmpc | right, we have one dev less | 20:00 |
| RichEd | well i'm ducking out of here ... ogra_cmpc picked up a 2nd 2GB USB on the way out this evening | 20:01 |
| ogra_cmpc | RichEd, seen your mail ? | 20:01 |
| RichEd | so i'll be trying to back-up the old image and get the new one on | 20:01 |
| RichEd | glanced at it ... lemme check | 20:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | wrt classmate ... i9mages etc | 20:02 |
| dasKreech | RichEd, ogra_cmpc: So .. maybe? :-) | 20:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | dasKreech, thats not in our hands, we only can suggest ... its already pretty late ... | 20:04 |
| dasKreech | ok | 20:04 |
| dasKreech | so speed would be key? | 20:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | so i fear to say maybe | 20:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, speed still means we can only forward it to people in the office ... its easter | 20:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | there wont be anyone before tuesday i assume | 20:06 |
| * dasKreech *looks over at the calendar* | 20:06 | |
| zamba | when chosing the standalone workstation installation.. how does this method interact with a server in the network? the thin client installation is of course fully dependant on it, but how does the standalone installation interact? i'm thinking package updates and shared user databases and file systems | 20:23 |
| zamba | and is it possible to create a mixed and seamless network consisting of a single server and both thin clients and standalone workstations? | 20:23 |
| dasKreech | Edubuntu is now a addon Cd to Ubuntu? | 20:23 |
| zamba | it's its own distro | 20:24 |
| zamba | i believe | 20:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | that changed in hardy | 20:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | the standalone workstation install is as the name says for a standalone workstation :) | 20:27 |
| RichEd | dasKreech: the best way to describe it is that it is an educational environment which is installed on top of an ubuntu system | 20:27 |
| RichEd | workstation or server | 20:27 |
| dasKreech | How about a Kubuntu System? | 20:27 |
| RichEd | could be if you bend it a bit | 20:28 |
| RichEd | ubuntu is the base | 20:28 |
| ogra_cmpc | works as well, but you need a network connection, the cd is built against the ubuntu CD so it needs some libraries kubuntu doesnt have | 20:28 |
| dasKreech | ah ok that should be fine | 20:28 |
| dasKreech | is there still a edubuntu-desktop-kde ? | 20:28 |
| ogra_cmpc | it just wont work non networked which we guarantee for ubuntu based systems | 20:29 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: so if you want a workstation that still should be able to interact with the server, then how? :) | 20:29 |
| ogra_cmpc | zamba, no, its a standalone sytem i.e. for a home desktop .. | 20:29 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: so the only customization for educational environments with a quite a few networked computers is the thin client solution? | 20:30 |
| ogra_cmpc | you can indeed set up everything as you like but its not different from an ubuntu desktop install apart from artwork and application selection | 20:30 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: yeah, but i was more looking for the out-of-the-box solution :) | 20:30 |
| zamba | with ldap database, samba and/or nfs and the like | 20:31 |
| ogra_cmpc | with hardy edubuntu was integrated into ubuntu completely, the ressources we have for such stuff are now bound in the server team for things like LDAP samba etc | 20:32 |
| ogra_cmpc | so the apps get maintained whener the biggest expertise is | 20:32 |
| ogra_cmpc | *where | 20:33 |
| zamba | ok | 20:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | i think they provide a ssamba out of the box install ... | 20:33 |
| zamba | how does this relate to debianedu? | 20:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | not sure about the ldap and directory server stuff | 20:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | that might be not there yet | 20:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | most of the new ltsp was developed hand in hand by me, one upstream dev and one of the debian edu devs | 20:34 |
| ogra_cmpc | we're working closely together inb that area ... | 20:35 |
| zamba | ah, cool | 20:35 |
| ogra_cmpc | wrt desktop and server implementations we do different things | 20:35 |
| zamba | debianedu is using kde and edubuntu gnome, right? | 20:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 20:36 |
| zamba | going to test the thin client stuff now, see how it works | 20:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | enjoy | 20:36 |
| zamba | i basically just need a fresh install of edubuntu and a laptop sitting on the same network as the machine, right? | 20:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 20:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | make sure the server has two NICs | 20:37 |
| zamba | do i need to do any configuration, or is this plug and play? | 20:37 |
| zamba | yeah, going to put in a second now | 20:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | that gives you the full fun of 100% out of the box ... | 20:37 |
| zamba | after the installation is done | 20:37 |
| dasKreech | There is a Debian EDU? :) | 20:37 |
| zamba | indeed :) | 20:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | with one NIC you need to adjust either the NIC IP or the shipped dhcpd.conf | 20:38 |
| dasKreech | with KDE? | 20:38 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: yeah, i know how to accomplish that, so that should be no problem :) | 20:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | dasKreech, yup | 20:38 |
| dasKreech | so you guys don't source from them? | 20:38 |
| zamba | dasKreech: yeah | 20:38 |
| zamba | kde sucks | 20:38 |
| zamba | we hate kde | 20:38 |
| zamba | :) | 20:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | zamba, well, its a lot extra work you could have saved by putting it in befor installing :) but well | 20:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | (you need to update teh sshkeys and update the image after adding the NIC and a new IP) | 20:39 |
| dasKreech | zamba: I recall you were taking out all the kde apps from edubuntu | 20:42 |
| zamba | dasKreech: hm? | 20:44 |
| * dasKreech sees your hm? and raises you a uh? | 20:45 | |
| zamba | i was taking out all the kde apps from edubuntu? :) | 20:48 |
| zamba | you can blame me for doing a lot of things, but removing all the kde apps from edubuntu wasn't really my doing :) | 20:51 |
| dasKreech | zamba: not you personally :) | 20:52 |
| zamba | if you by "you" mean "debianEDU", i'm not a part of that team :) | 20:52 |
| dasKreech | zamba: No Edubuntu was removing all the KDE apps from the Edubuntu distro | 20:55 |
| zamba | god damn typical | 21:14 |
| zamba | basically the only thing i installed edubuntu for was to try the thin client stuff | 21:14 |
| zamba | and what fails after 30 minutes of installation? | 21:14 |
| zamba | oh yeah: "build ltsp chroot" | 21:14 |
| zamba | so not very out of the box | 21:17 |
| zamba | lol, this is fucked up | 21:19 |
| zamba | the latest installation image doesn't work | 21:19 |
| zamba | /etc/network/interfaces looks stupid | 21:19 |
| dasKreech | !ohmy | 21:20 |
| ubotu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 21:20 |
| zamba | sorry about that :) | 21:20 |
| zamba | and where is the "educational software" that makes this an edcational distro? i can't see any changes from the usual ubuntu installation | 21:21 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: how is this supposed to work? i see no startup scripts in /etc/init.d | 21:27 |
| zamba | i'm issuing ltsp-build-client manually now, after getting the system booted | 21:27 |
| zamba | and it's retrieving and validating a lot of software | 21:28 |
| zamba | ogra_cmpc: please let me know when you're back | 21:45 |
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