[00:02] nixternal: I think beta release notes should include the highlights for the whole cycle [00:02] oh wow [00:02] OK [00:02] nixternal: which would be just a copy and paste of the best of the alpha notes [00:05] anyone else been throwing away a lot of cds lately that don't install? [00:07] the new cds install [00:10] seele: I have a printerconfig GUI dialog screen here that you might want to look at for GUI design (which I am admittedly horrible at) [00:10] seele: is a screenshot best, or a .ui ? [00:10] screenshot [00:10] thx [00:10] ok [00:10] evening [00:11] jjesse: you can install from the hard drive [00:12] dasKreech: really? how does that work? [00:12] !iso [00:12] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [00:12] wait that wasn't it :) [00:12] !install [00:12] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [00:12] Riddell: KDE 4, KDE 3, Desktop Effects, Amarok, Wubi, Encryption, NTFS Support -- anything else big you would like included? [00:12] jjesse: bottom URL [00:12] seele: seele at kde.org ? [00:12] celeste@kde.org [00:13] nixternal: printerconfig? [00:13] hey, where is my @kde.org :p [00:13] ScottK: no fixes for p-m anyway... the in-hardware check doesn't make sense due to some shortcommings in HAL reading the brightness state (eg. it can only read the last value set by software) [00:13] hrmm bot still references dapper on that second one [00:13] nixternal: You have a vista.gov ;-P [00:13] seele: ok, I have to go, i'll send you the SS right now though [00:14] jjesse: me? [00:14] dasKreech: under !install it references DapperReleaseNotes/.Ubiquity/KnownIssues [00:15] !install [00:15] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [00:15] jjesse: that's not the last URL [00:15] i know that but still needs to be updated :) [00:15] ScottK: if you have some other bugs , or other missing/planned fixes, I should have a look at, please tell [00:15] brb rebooting to install hardy [00:17] later guys... [00:19] !no, install is Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [00:19] I'll remember that nixternal [00:19] !install [00:19] install is Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [00:19] wtfork [00:19] !no install is Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [00:20] nixternal: Huh what's the difference ? [00:22] I try to find a release date for hardy, but can't find a roadmap :-( [00:22] oh wait, sorry :-) [00:23] found it [00:23] Search for schedule [00:23] April 24th :-( [00:23] there goes my schedule [00:25] awen_: Will do. I probably won't look at it much before Saturday. I'm mostly thrilled fixing apport didn't result in an avalanch of new crashes being reported. [00:26] ScottK: the quiet weeks where apport crashes wasn't coming in gave you the time to fix all the bugs ;) [00:26] nixternal: kaffeine codec install maybe, bulletproof X [00:26] Hopefully the people that went to the trouble to report crashes manually gave us reasonable coverage. [00:26] nixternal: Don't forget the displayconfig note I gave you. [00:27] nixternal: Nice pointing out the still open bugs [00:27] well, it seems with Beta we are just going over the major things in Hardy [00:30] Riddell: do the DVD codecs work with Kaffeine yet? [00:34] nixternal: yes, but xine itself is broken for dvds [00:34] dasKreech: we would do backports same as we currently do for gutsy [00:34] wonderful :) [00:36] (infact we might do more than that, we'll discuss at UDS) [00:38] backport to dapper >_< [00:39] Riddell: what part of printing is nosredna_ekim working on? [00:39] I'm not sure what to make of this screenshot he sent me [00:40] seele: I think he's been doing bits on the new printer configutation tool [00:42] hmm [00:48] jjesse: hardied? [00:49] dasKreech: yes kde4 hardied [00:49] miss things like an irc client [00:50] irssi :) [00:50] so i had to install konverstation [00:50] never got used to irsii [00:50] dasKreech: KDE is a *desktop* environment ;P === Czessi is now known as Czessi_ [00:52] seele, jjesse: kopete [00:53] dasKreech: didn't know kopete did it [00:53] Riddell: is the printer configuration tool planned to be completed really soon? because it's in the hardy beta and pretty much not operational [00:53] that's cool [00:53] need to change the book on that i'm sure :( [00:54] seele: no, it'll have to be disabled for this release, I just haven't had enough time to work on it unfortunately [00:54] Riddell: will we use the kde3 tool then? or is it broken? [00:55] seele: kde 3 tool works just not in all situations, and we have the new applet which does the auto-configure stuff and that solves the main problems [00:56] so yes we'll use the kde 3 tool and the new applet [00:56] what is the new applet? is there a package i can download? [00:57] dasKreech: kopete misses irc support on the current kde4 live-cd [00:57] seele: system-config-printer-kde-applet in the system-config-printer-kde package [00:57] seele: same package as the new config tool [00:57] awen_: >_< [00:57] dasKreech: am i stupid and not seeing irc in kopete? [00:57] seele: you should already have it running, if you plug in a new printer it should pop up, also if you print something === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [00:58] jjesse: apparently it's not there [00:58] dangi i thought i saw it once? [00:59] jjesse: irc in kopete is missing in kde4 atm... there is already a bug-report against the knetwork-kde4 source [00:59] Riddell: yeah, i saw the kprint thing (or whatever it is called) but i only have a network printer and the wizard in Applications:System doesn't work [00:59] at least I found the bug report yesterday [01:00] seele: right, network printing is still the problem. if ipp printer sharing is on it should just work, or you can struggle with the kde 3 setup tool, or you can just system-config-printer-gnome [01:00] interesting the default home page in firefox when i installed is the firefox welcome page on my gnome hardy its wleocme to ubuntu [01:01] Riddell: ah, figures the part i need is broken :) [01:04] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu <-- Riddell [01:05] nixternal: looks great [01:05] groovy, I am going to take the screenshots now [01:05] nixternal: I have screenshots of the upgrade process [01:06] either attach them to the wiki or upload them so I can grab and edit..that would rock [01:07] nixternal: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/upgrade/ [01:07] thanks! [01:07] nixternal: can be put at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades [01:07] ok, I will work on that in a bit as well [01:07] will need some cropping of course [01:08] nixternal: "Kubuntu with KDE 3" -> "Kubuntu" it's the definitive version [01:08] "Kubuntu with KDE 4" -> Kubuntu KDE 4 Remix [01:08] Riddell: if we settle the kde4 version of gtk-qt-engine on the kde3 version, should we keep the changelog and document all changes? [01:08] apachelogger: they should be separate packages for now surely [01:08] yeah [01:08] well [01:09] nixternal: KDE 4 won't be in shipit, exact method to be decided but just say "CDs available for groups who need it..." [01:09] that sentence was wrong [01:09] Riddell: if we use the kde3 version as base for te kde4 packaging [01:09] * apachelogger should go to bed :S [01:09] apachelogger: scrap the changelog in that case, no point duplicating it [01:10] nixternal: Info: can point to the relevant dot.kde.org article, or KDE release pages [01:10] ok [01:11] * Riddell snoozes [01:20] ScottK: can you link me to that page about your changes again? I am going to write up a little something about them in the release notes [01:26] ScottK: never mind, I grep'd my logs for it [01:31] nixternal: I've still got it if you want it. I just need to fire up my laptop. [01:33] nixternal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59981/ [01:57] bug 105899 has patches upstream from a few months ago [01:57] Launchpad bug 105899 in knetworkmanager "KNetworkManager Should Support "Key Type" Selection under WPA Enterprise" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105899 [02:03] hrmm, I take that drive encryption on install isn't available on a Desktop CD? [02:03] also, jjesse was right, you can't install with the latest Desktop CD...has an issue with partition sizes [02:10] Riddell: kdepim-kde4 is still in the archives, this should be removed ASAP as it has broken dependencies and is old and ... [02:10] was requested a month or so back and never heard much about it [02:13] Maybe there's an archive admin that cares enough about Kubuntu to do it .... [02:18] blueyed: I was wrong there, is some issue with the po files I can't find a proper solution for, I will have a look at it tomorrow ... you can find the current package at http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/gtk-qt-engine-kde4/ [02:19] nixternal: You got what you need on release notes, right? === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [03:20] How the heck to I navigate in kde3 with just a keyboard (machine in question is mouseless)? [03:23] ctrl+esc == kmenu [03:23] alt+space == katapult ;p [03:23] alt+f2 == krunner :p [03:24] or you can actually go into system settings, and setup the arrow keys for mouse control [03:24] oh my, Riddell gave me 12 images for the updater..that's insane [03:25] ScottK2: just like allways :) ... katapult is your friend; and konqueror is one of the greatest browsers to use keyboard only [03:26] ctrl + esc got me ksysguard. [03:27] alt + space worked. [03:29] ScottK2: kmenu = alt+f1 ? [03:40] I got what I needed with katapult. Thanks. [03:41] * ScottK2 will try ctrl + esc again. I guess if that continues to bring up ksysguard it's a bug. [03:43] ScottK: ctrl+esc has always brougt ksysguar for me (since at least feisty) [03:43] OK. Then I don't know what nixternal was smoking. [03:43] Thanks. [03:43] ScottK: some windows weed ;) [03:44] or maybe he uses the windows scheme in shortcuts (could very well have ctrl+esc as default) [03:46] * awen_ goes offline === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 [04:46] Riddell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades -- complete - added a 2nd page (HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu) with a full graphical version of the installation process. [05:15] kdm-kde3 is still default for kubuntu-kde4, right? [06:07] nixternal: just reading the HardyUpgrades page, a few comments if you're interested [06:07] the first section says you can only upgrade to Hardy from 7.10 [06:08] then next section describes how to upgrade from Dapper [06:08] could be confusing [06:10] more importantly the instructions for LTS to LTS upgrades are confusing [06:10] if I go adept-manager > manage repositories [06:11] I see the sources.list [06:11] the dapper-proposed repository doesn't appear in that list for me to enable it [06:12] and there is nothing to tell me what it's address should be [06:12] I tried running kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" but that doesn't work [06:12] maybe it's just me and I've forgotten how to do stuff in dapper [06:13] but thought I should mention it [06:13] feel free to ping to discuss further [06:13] I'll be at work but I'll try to help [06:13] [06:15] Arby: I am only concerned with the Kubuntu instructions...the rest is for Ubuntu..honestly we should have our own page anyways [06:17] so will the LTS instructions for dapper be different [06:17] or is dapper to hardy not supported for kubuntu [06:17] Kubuntu isn't LTS, so anything dealing with LTS doesn't concern us at this point [06:18] I can see people with kubuntu dapper boxes being unhappy about that [06:18] for Kubuntu, you can only go from Gutsy -> Hardy [06:18] but that discussion has been had [06:19] well, they can be angry at Canonical..it wasn't our choice [06:19] I quite agree [06:19] I'm not arguing with you [06:19] oh I know [06:19] to anyone with upload rights: patch for bug #201825 up [06:19] Launchpad bug 201825 in kdenetwork-kde4 "wrong dependencies in kdenetwork-dev-kde4" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201825 [06:19] watching some funny youtube videos :p [06:20] * nixternal wishes he had upload rights [06:22] stdin: test building it now and will then upload [06:22] thanks for the patch! [06:23] nixternal: wasn't a big fix, one word really ;) [06:23] 2 [06:23] though I fixed another little bug too [06:24] kde -> kde4, kdenetwork -> kdenetwork-kde4, ooh and Binary -> source [06:24] so 3 :p [06:24] well, I've been itching to do something recently :) [06:25] hehe [06:30] nixternal: so the recommended upgrade path for Dapper is via Edgy/Feisty/Gutsy? [06:31] starting from EdgyUpgrades? [06:44] that I couldn't tell ya [06:51] could kdenetwork-kde4 take any longer to build? [07:06] oh well, work time now [07:22] nixternal: I hope is built by now [07:28] ya, uploading it now [07:29] everything seemed to install fine [07:29] morning :) [07:29] mornin' Nightrose [07:29] good, I'll send it to the PPA :) [07:32] Successfully uploaded packages. [07:32] and on that note, I can go to sleep now :) [07:32] g'nite [07:32] ;-) nini nixternal [07:52] hrm, did anyone else have the link in the email from lp about the new kde4 list not work? [08:04] hobbsee ping === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:10] jussi01: jep - it is a not really sane tld ;-) - you can sign up on the LP page [08:10] Nightrose: ahh, thnaks [08:10] ;-) [08:10] yw [08:15] Hobbsee: did you tell the launchpad guys about the broken link yet? [08:16] (in the mail about the mailinglist) [08:16] Nightrose: yes [08:16] ok cool [08:17] Hi Hobbsee [08:17] heya [08:18] * Hobbsee is only semi-here [08:18] Finally I'm in Sydney. [08:18] Hobbsee, only one minute please. [08:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: we should enable shadowed text for the windeco. I forgot to mention it earlier. [08:21] <_StefanS_> bbl [08:23] mornin [09:09] hi there [09:26] hey Tonio_ [09:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: we should enable shadowed text for the windeco. I forgot to mention it earlier, can we do it now? [09:37] _StefanS_: sure [09:37] _StefanS_: I would like to change the buttons [09:37] _StefanS_: make the "hover" more visible [09:37] _StefanS_: that requires to change the images right ? [10:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep thats right [10:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: Although I'm not sure if you need the original inkscape file to make it look any good. I can send them to you [10:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I was going to look at it, but you know time flies [10:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I sent you the original svg now, its the one postfixed with 2 [10:14] <_StefanS_> bbl === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [11:50] Hobbsee, have a minute now? [11:52] morning [11:55] It looks like the kdebase in the Kubuntu bzr is pretty ancient. I'm preparing an upload (to apply cjwatson's man page fix). I think it would make sense to remove the vcs headers from debian/control at the same time? [11:56] Good morning jjesse. [11:56] hello ScottK [11:57] ScottK: I'd keep them, we'll use bzr when there the tools are more integrated [11:58] Riddell: OK. Will do. [12:09] seele: comment #17 is by far the best comment on your blog :) [12:14] Riddell: Opinions on the patches in Bug #19767 (looks like Debian made this change almost two years ago) and Bug #176114 [12:14] Launchpad bug 19767 in kdebase "Kde help search fails too quietly if htdig is not installed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19767 [12:14] Launchpad bug 176114 in kdebase "[Konqueror 3.5.8] Ad Block Plus doesn't work after list upgrade" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176114 [12:20] ScottK2: htdig is in universe, we can't add it [12:21] ScottK2: second one looks fine if it works [12:22] Riddell: htdig patch is already in kdebase, just points to the wrong place. I know we can't add it ad depends, but we can at least fix the path. [12:22] ad/as [12:23] ScottK: ah, I see the second patch, go for it then [12:23] Thanks [12:40] oh I remember #176114 [12:41] Unfortunately my patch didn't work and I've no idea why === smarter_ is now known as smarter [12:43] Jucato: lol [12:44] :D [12:44] evening Jucato [12:44] good morning jjesse! [12:44] * Jucato stretches his legs [12:44] yay!!!! [12:44] :D [12:44] yay [12:45] yay [12:45] (what are we yay'ing about?) [12:45] Jucato: he didnt use my name... [12:45] life? [12:45] :D [12:45] lol [12:45] yeah 2nd time :) [12:45] he's getting better at it [12:45] what's even more strange is that " if (line.lower().compare("[adblock]") == 0)" right before should be enough to avoid the bug [12:47] * jpatrick watches yao_ziyuan in #k [12:47] this guy is so funny :P [12:48] * jussi01 sighs at him [12:49] still complaining about asians characters support? [12:49] no [12:50] system beeps appartently [12:50] smarter: So that means I shouldn't worry about applying that patch? [12:50] ScottK: you should worry about finding a proper patch :P [12:50] smarter: I'm assembling available ones right now. I guess I won't count that one. [12:51] I may try to make a patch that work this weekend if I get enough time and motivation ;) [12:51] nixternal: one more upgrade image if you could, for upgrading from an alternate CD rather than the internet http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/cd1.png === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:52] smarter: If get one that works, please let me know. [12:52] sure [12:53] I may even be done test building kdebase by this weekend ... [13:00] seele: did you have anything to add to KubuntuDefaultSettings ? [13:02] mmh, is there a fix for the "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" when you try to mount an ntfs partition in Kubuntu other than upgrading to Hardy? [13:05] smarter: only if you apply patches to kdebase from hardy [13:05] Riddell: click instead of hover on kickoff, but i didnt ask because i know they wont go for it [13:08] they're also talking about reordering the tabs depending on the dock location of kickoff, which i think is stupid but whatever [13:10] * Jucato would love it if the tabs were movable/arrangeable... [13:10] sure, under user control [13:10] but not reordering them by default [13:10] * Jucato nods [13:12] hmm.. orange mango juice is good in theory, but so thick it's like youre drinking puree or something [13:12] hahahah! :) [13:13] that comes in powder form here... so you can control how diluted you want it to bee [13:16] peach apple juice is good too. the peach makes it a little thicker, but not as thick as the mango [13:18] hm.. never had peach apple... [13:18] * Jucato wonders if he can find one somewhere === \sh_away is now known as \sh [13:58] why doesn't vnc work in hardy anymore? [14:17] Riddell: I am ready for an upgrade test. Which is the best way to do that? [14:18] neversfelde|mobi: upgrading from 7.10? [14:18] Riddell: yes [14:19] neversfelde|mobi: see if you can follow these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu [14:19] * Riddell decides on random oxygen artwork for beta http://kubuntu.org/index2.php [14:20] hey.. those are my glasses! [14:21] Riddell: ok, will do [14:22] seele: hahah! :) === nelli is now known as onlinelli [14:22] seele: you should take more care of them, then [14:23] haha [14:25] or make sure they stay out of Riddell's reach :) [14:28] Hi everyone, I'm trying to do the upgrade from gutsy to hardy - but I'm stuck at installing the linux-headers... can anyone please give me a hint on troubleshooting? [14:28] nixternal: is the compiz configurator not on the kde4 CD? [14:28] onlinelli: #ubuntu+1 [14:29] ok, thanks for pointing out [14:30] nixternal: also, in the feedback section under support, that should be "#ubuntu+1" I think... [14:36] omg, I so don't feel like filing a FFe for gtk-qt-engine-kde4 -.- [14:37] apachelogger: main or universe? [14:37] universe [14:37] ScottK: can you co-approve it over irc please? [14:38] apachelogger: Go for it. Please mark it down in a bug at least with the changelog. Please make an upload that works. [14:39] ScottK2: k, thanks :) [14:41] <\sh> Riddell: bug #55973 ... do you think it's ok to mark it "won't fix"? ,-) it's from 2006 :( [14:41] Launchpad bug 55973 in arts "Patch for crash with message "can't create MCOP directory"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55973 [14:42] \sh: I'm compiling a new kdebase right now that has a patch sent in 2006. I wouldn't assume just based on age. [14:43] \sh: yes [14:43] <\sh> ScottK2: I wonder why mpg321 is mentioned now [14:43] Dunno. I didn't look at the bug, I just don't think age based assumptions area good plan. [14:43] seele: did you have time to look at that interface? I'd really like to know what you think of it before I spend any more time working on it :) [14:44] <\sh> ScottK2: I was more thinking about "artsd is evil and we should forget about it" [14:44] But keep in mind I work on systems in my day job where we never ever mark a bug closed unless we can trace to a fix, so I may be biased. [14:44] Fair enough. I think I also transposed won'tfix and invalid when I read it the first time. [14:44] nosrednaekim: i did.. although it was hard to understand just one screen [14:45] nosrednaekim: are you modeling it after an existing wizard or app? [14:45] seele: a bit, system-config-printer (the gtk one) [14:46] <\sh> ScottK2: I think it's ok for this special bug, which is no.1 on my list, to know a good and easy workaround...so let us set it to "Won't fix" with a comment to the workaround [14:46] it has a pop up windows for queues, I have an embedded listview [14:47] ok.. i'll have to look at that again, i forget what all it does [14:48] seele: when the "PSC1210" in the list view is selected, the "URI" automatically gets updated [14:48] \sh: Fair enough [14:49] <\sh> ScottK2: ok..I'll deal with it when I'm home... [15:17] apachelogger: slap me when you're awaken, son === vorian is now known as help [15:31] I think vorian needs help === help is now known as vorian [15:31] duh [15:31] that was silly [15:32] now you've lost your cloak [15:33] :( [15:33] stupid keepnick [15:33] * jpatrick hugs vorian [15:33] mornin' [15:33] howdy howdy [15:34] can you believe Chicago is under yet another winter weather advisory? [15:34] wth, where is the spring already [15:34] yes, this winter sucks [15:34] nixternal: send some over, it's getting to hot here [15:34] we are like 4' over our norm this year [15:34] * nixternal chucks a snowball at jpatrick [15:35] where is that darn global warming they keep promising? [15:35] i blame global warming [15:35] doh! [15:35] * Jucato blames nixternal (as always) [15:35] actually, tonight we are supposed to get wet and heavy snow..so that might be an iceball when I am done with it :p [15:35] :) [15:35] vorian: hahahaha, my old man said the same thing [15:35] :) [15:36] our yard is a sloppy mess from the previous melts plus the tremendous amount of rain we had [15:36] yay we are only supposed to get 1 to 2 inches of snow [15:36] not fair, cloudless sun here [15:36] bah, 6 inches here [15:36] sky* [15:36] haha [15:36] cloudless sun [15:36] Riddell: I fixed up your image and the Kubuntu upgrade page [15:38] beta update from gutsy went fine [15:38] jeroen-: over the internet? [15:39] nixternal: nice job on the release notes for beta [15:39] jeroen-: i386? [15:39] Riddell: yes [15:39] Riddell: yes [15:39] jeroen-: excellent, many thanks [15:39] same as always [15:39] 2 minor things :-( [15:39] 1: after a while during the process clicking the mouse had no effect any more [15:39] had to use the keyboard [15:40] but can be a local issue [15:40] that's very strange [15:40] 2: sudo on the command line doesn't work anymore after booting, it gives: sudo: unable to resolve host k-uptown [15:40] latter one is my hostname [15:41] jeroen-: what does `hostname` report your host as? [15:41] so if someone has a solution for #2, that would be fine [15:41] Riddell: k-uptown [15:42] Riddell: and also kdesu doesn't work [15:43] mmm I'm a afraid this is not a minor issue [15:43] Riddell: bug 32906 [15:43] Launchpad bug 32906 in sudo "sudo shouldn’t ABSOLUTELY NEED to look up the host it’s running on" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32906 [15:44] I've uploaded a gwenview to ppa: Fix crash with wrong EXIF info: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159522 [15:44] KDE bug 159522 in general "gwenview craches on images with incorrect exif info" [Normal,New] [15:44] should I add a bug report or is reminding after freeze enough? [15:44] fortunaly I have set my root password (if I remember) [15:45] jeroen-: it seems either k-uptown is missing from either /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname (probably hosts since hostname returns your hostname) [15:45] alleeHol: poke me tomorrow to upload is fine [15:46] Riddell: k, thx [15:46] and it seems the only workaround at this time is to boot from a livecd to fix it [15:46] * nixternal wonders if there is a forums post with a true work around [15:46] and it doesn't seem to attack everybody [15:51] <\sh> nixternal: elaborate please? what is missing from /etc/host{s,name}? [15:52] nixternal: k-uptown is indeed not in my host file [15:52] nixternal: but or I didnt set a root password or I forgot [15:53] <\sh> now I get it ;) [15:53] and now!? [15:53] <\sh> jeroen-: rescue system...or init=/bin/bash or whatever it needs to get root shell ;) [15:53] \sh: yes that was where I was afraid of [15:54] I will be back [15:55] nixternal: I love the first comment in that bug, "…yeah, sudo, it’s all very clever until someone loses an eye!" [15:56] Riddell: hmm, are you as my "mentor" with evand with my summer project, migration assistant (windows) or do we have someone else who are more close with this issue? [15:57] Tm_T: yes, me and evand [15:58] Riddell: roger, can you send me an email saying "I am the mentor of this project", some proof is asked [15:58] jussi.kekkonen at gmail yadda [15:58] I got one from evand already [15:59] Riddell: 50/50 changes to get the job (I'll do this anyway though) [15:59] as in I'm already in final round [16:03] * apachelogger slaps Tm_T [16:04] apachelogger: arr, were you looking for kde3->kde4 migration solutions? [16:04] Tm_T: I guess so [16:05] roger, I'll be looking for that too I believe [16:05] not now but during summer if not earlier [16:06]