[00:00] great now the windows cd won't boot -.-; [00:06] why is the initial wireless encryption type Wep anyway? [00:07] what should it be>? [00:07] you'd figure it would come using wpa now adays [00:07] what if your hardware dosent support wpa. [00:07] but no encryption = web encryption. [00:08] wep [00:09] Hmm.. THere is no encryption, then theres wep which is the lowest enctyption. [00:09] I thought. [00:09] I have some devices that cant handle wep. [00:09] but i rarely use wireless.. [00:11] yeas bnut I am not switching my router to wep from wpa just because linux doesn't want to use wpa by default -.-; [00:12] so switch linux... big deal.... [00:12] * Dr_willis_ thinks this is getting in to the ranting and raving stage. [00:13] humble hello [00:13] :) [00:13] well so far in all of my experinces with linux, the os is as faulty if nor more so then windows, and anything can cause your system to not be bootable on restarting it. [00:14] Kaevik, ive had just as many issues with windows. But to each their own... [00:14] seems like I'm waisting my time trying to reinstall kubuntu , figure it may do this random oops can;t find os when I reboot... [00:15] linux lets you get under the hood and figure out whats wrong, and fix things.. windows makes that much harder. [00:15] windows may have serious security and stability problems, but they usually down end up killing the whole thing so it does not boot. [00:16] all from adept trying to do a version update of itself [00:18] when I did the wireless card thing I went to install some packages needed for the firmware first, but that ended up installing/updating like 150 items insted of just the 3. [00:21] short answer : use what you want. if 150 items needed updateing.. then they needed updateing. [00:21] I don't see anything wrong with knowing how to do something different... [00:22] Dont expect a big huge bunch of people in here to try to convince you of anything. [00:22] Linux teaches us to think differently doing the same thing, as you could do in Windows.. [00:22] basicjay, with Linux it pays to learn the Fundamentals. :) [00:22] I totally agree. [00:22] Then you can easially go from one disrto to another. [00:22] Testing out Sidux at the moment on several of my machines [00:23] and sometimes the fundamentals are missed...and using Linux may force some people to revisit, or visit... [00:24] just my humble 2 cent opinion. [00:24] people have been trained to 'not think' way too much these days. in their relationship with computers. [00:24] well I was told that what happend to me here should never happen, but it did... [00:26] I don't even see a link between adept updating itself to all of a sudded grub can't boot anything. [00:26] its possible a kernel update did somthing.. but youve given no specifics.. and i doubt if specifics would help anyway... [00:27] i tend to use apt-get or synaptic in most cases.. i rarely use adept - its just awkward. [00:27] all that happend is adept was running a version update of adept, but it errore, so I went to redo it and it could not run saying it was still running, rebooted and then no os found basicly. [00:29] if the bios reported 'no os found' - sounds like a hardware dieing issue to me. Thats the message ive seen when a hd dies, or its a totally new OS. [00:29] grub did Error 15: File not found trying to mount the boot partion (root) [00:29] partition* [00:30] and now I have to reinstall -.-; [00:30] Or learn to fix grub from a live cd. [00:31] and redo all of the wireless card enabling and then try again to get wpa working. [00:31] sounds like the menu.lst may be looking for the wrong files, or the update-grub command some how errored/crashed/dudent run succesuffly [00:31] If this was the first system update, there proberly was a new kernel released, which added a new entry to grub [00:31] I reinstalled grub using the livecd nothing changed. and looking at what grub is doing to try to boot changd nothing. [00:32] everything looks like it should work, it just didn't find anything [00:33] Ive seen issues with grub and error 15 when its some how looking on the wrong hard drive [00:33] some times if you have a external usb drive, or others - it may set the #'s wrongly. ehere hd0 becomes hd1 and so forth. [00:35] ive seen where the /boot/grub/device.map [00:35] file - is incorrect with whats actually on the system also. [00:36] only 1 hardrive and I've changed the root to specific partions then it would either says no partion found or error 17 could not mount partion [00:38] how do I find the correct repository to use to download libboost 1.34.1? I am running edgy [00:40] tecie1980: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all&keywords=libboost+&sourceid=mozilla-search [00:42] Alright I'm brand new to linux. I have three hard drives, one SATA drive all along which has kubuntu on it. The other two in a RAID 0 array with windows. How do I make this RAID 0 array readable? I already have the NTFS drivers and such installed and verifed but kubuntu won't play nice with the RAID part of it [00:42] kgz: thanks. Is it safe for me to use the gutsy repository on a machine running edgy? [00:43] you need a linux driver for the raid device [00:43] any ideas on where to find one? and one easy enough to where I can use it [00:44] << extremely new =\ [00:44] well I'm not entirelly new but since I haven't had much positive expereinces... [00:44] some 'raid controllers' are partially hardware and partially software also ive seen.. A lot depends on the exact raid controller. [00:44] its all hardware, Nforce setup [00:45] i would say check the ubuntu wikis and forums for nforce raid information. [00:45] where is hard discussion taking place? [00:45] er, hardy [00:46] #ubuntu+1 [00:48] everyone is asking about the beta release schedule... It will be released when its ready... :) [00:50] I have a package stuck in my apt-get queue (autofsck) -- how do I remove it? === Czessi is now known as Czessi_ [00:52] think the livecd installer is stuck on 6% of 'select and install software' [00:53] -.-; [00:53] i tend to use the alternative instaler cd.. [00:53] Alright guys I have a huge problem I get error #22 from grub when I try to boot normally can anyone help me fix this? [00:53] i wonder if the servers are all getting the Hardy Beta updates right now... [00:53] they may be slow. [00:53] <_michael> Hello, is there a way to let quickbrowser applets from kicker show broken symlinks? [00:55] I am using the alt cd [00:57] er [00:57] I'm running off a live cd [00:57] if i run debootstrap gusty /sda [00:57] it started going again. [00:57] that will install gusty that that harddrive right? [00:57] hi === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi === ronak is now known as ronak_1 [00:58] anyone? [00:59] I think the !install factoid hjas some info on using debootstrap and ubuntu [00:59] !install [00:59] Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [01:00] ive never done it. Seen some guides here and there.. it looked a bit over-complex, when i could just grab a install cd. [01:00] I am considering moving from Windows to sharing Windows along with flavor of Linux. I like Ubuntu because of it's simplicity but I have to ask about the differences between kde and gnome [01:00] and why you use either [01:00] and what are the advantages to both [01:00] I like the more features in KDE. [01:01] is it easier to configure? [01:01] You can easially install both on a ubuntu system and try them both out. [01:01] so do I and I'm in the same boat you're in possu [01:01] KDE has more configuration options. [01:01] I have used xfce [01:01] so easy to switch between the two [01:01] so im not new to linux itself [01:01] DnOberon, Trivial to switch. [01:01] on the KDM/GDM login screen thers a session menu. Pick the one to use. [01:01] ok [01:02] You can have the XFCE desktop installed aso. and it will be in that menu as well [01:02] You can Mixx and match/combine apps from gnome and kde and xfce also. [01:02] hm well I've been having trouble getting and burning a good copy of the install cd, so hopefully installing it via bootstrap helps [01:02] How do I increase the hard drive size for VMware? [01:02] You could even have them both running at the same time, or all three [01:02] Or you can build your own desktop from othe rwindow managers and tools [01:02] Vista was just a horror story for me and now I am back into XP and XP doesn't have all the features my laptop can utilize [01:03] so i would like to try Linux [01:03] again... [01:03] * Kaevik is running Vista just fine [01:03] is there a way to see my network usage in kubuntu? [01:03] !vmware [01:03] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers [01:03] not installing SP1 tho : [01:03] yea well I would like most of my ram back..1 gig out of 2 gigs of ram taken is a bit rediculous [01:03] Is there a channel for vmware? [01:03] !automate [01:03] Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning [01:03] #vmware [01:04] ^,^ [01:04] 772mb/2048 currently [01:04] I personally didn't see it as much of an improvement [01:04] the vmware server interface lets you slideer to set the ram used on a virtual machine [01:05] ok, does anyone remember how to make a system rescue disk, manually? i'm about to flash the mobo bios to fix some of the hardware issues and winblows me won't allow anyone to make such a disk...need to fix the bios probs b4 i can load a livecd and install kubuntu [01:05] 'power off' the vm. adjust the settings. power it back on. [01:05] Thanks Apple_Cat [01:05] dennister, you wanted to make a system rescue disk for WINDOWS? or linux? [01:05] so far i've got msdos.sys, io.sys, config.sys, autoexec.bat, various other dos commands... [01:06] np [01:06] dennister, ick. :) thas OLD-skool stuff there. What version of windows you got? [01:06] Dr_willis_: tell me about it :-)...this donated computer has winblows millenium, heheheh [01:06] draik: any reason you're using vmware over virtual box ? [01:07] windows Mistake Edition? [01:07] c why i want to get rid of it? replace it with kubuntu? [01:07] Possu1: u got it [01:07] dennister, the guys in #windows will point ya to the right place.. I thouhg it was under Mycoputer/Somthing on the right menu... [01:07] Apple_Cat: VMware Workstation is what I know. Honestly, never heard of Virtual Box [01:07] dennister, backup the install to a file on a spare machine. :) so you can restore it easially.. [01:08] dennister, you want a boot floppy so you can run the bios update mainly? [01:08] Dr_willis_: that's even more complex...yes, need a boot floppy with the flash update utility and the new bios file on it [01:08] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Screenshots, I'd use it over vmware unless you have a good reason not to [01:09] dennister, there is that bootdisk.com web site. :) [01:09] AFTER i get the mobo bios updated, then my hardware will be detected with livecd's and those livecd's won't crash [01:11] Dr_willis_: thx, this site might have what i need ready-made [01:12] Apple_Cat: What do I install from the repos? [01:12] virtualbox-ose? [01:13] yep yep [01:13] Thank you [01:14] There was no particular reason for VMware other than it's what I know. [01:14] oh ok, good luck and have fun then : ) [01:16] I will [01:16] Thank you === alan_ is now known as Alan_M [01:28] is there any way to make a webpage a interactive desktop background? [01:37] adude: you could try to use $your_favorite_browser for drawing the background [01:37] yes, right click on the desktop and click configure desktop [01:37] Configure Desktop -> Background -> Advanced Options [01:38] i got that far [01:38] yep, then advanced options to the left of the window [01:38] [x] Use te following program for drawing the background -> (I guess) /usr/bin/firefox http://www.example.com/ [01:39] or whatever way you pass a URL to firefox on the command line [01:39] oh, I just saw ... it's easier [01:39] then after checking that option, modify it and replace the http://www.kde.org/, with the URL you want [01:39] at least for me it gives me the option to use a program called kwebdesktop :) [01:40] yeah that's the one ^.^ [01:41] did you get all of that , adude ? [01:42] i'm working on it [01:44] right click on desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options -> check the "Use the following program........" checkbox, then finally click the Modify button and there should be some text that you just replace the http://www.kde.org/ URL, with the one you want [01:47] but what i was wondering is if i could interact with the webpage from the desktop? [01:48] not by using kwebdesktop [01:53] Apple_Cat thanks for the help :-) [01:54] np : ) [01:58] are there other programs besides kwebdesktop? [02:02] any particular reason you want an interactive web page on your desktop ? [02:03] no not really [02:03] i just thought it would be cool [02:03] abend [02:04] ahh. i remember the "active desktop" on win98/me [02:04] * praWned shudders [02:04] * Apple_Cat runs away and hides behind a bush [02:05] can someone help me. im stuck between debian's etch and gutsy [02:05] is there any other cool thing i could do with my desktop? [02:05] wow that sounds painful [02:06] adude: compiz-fusion [02:06] dpkg: regarding .../dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_i386.deb containing dpkg: [02:06] package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg [02:06] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_i386.deb (--unpack): [02:06] unsupported dependency problem - not installing dpkg [02:06] adude: having an interactive web desktop would either be slow, or resource intensive, possible both.... you could probably get it working but it will probably be a pain [02:06] nightmare [02:06] I ran adept update andnow it did the whole I'm already running thing. [02:06] aetaric: wait... you were converting from debain to ubuntu? [02:06] so I can't install anything... [02:07] !adeptfix [02:07] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [02:07] attempting.....its a vm so i can blow it if need be [02:07] i thought of that apple_cat [02:08] is there a way to force the install.....i'd rather not deal with rebuilding xen vm's [02:08] i'm rather bored and was just playing around with the desktop ;-) [02:08] aetaric: lol.... good luck....not that I know of :) === milian-laptop_ is now known as milian-laptop [02:10] adude: try making a virtual machine and messing with that, it will keep you amused for a good few hours [02:10] so I have some options here [02:11] install package maintainers version, keep current, [02:12] Apple_cat how would i go about doing that? [02:12] I'll tell you in #kubuntu-offtopic [02:14] can someone please tell me the terminal command to mount a hard drive? [02:14] Jsn0327: "sudo mount /dev/ /mountpoint" [02:15] thanks. I just reformatted my 80gig hard drive and everytime that i try to mount it threw dolphin i get the error hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 [02:16] hey [02:16] is /mountpoint the command i should use, or should i specify a mount point? [02:16] i win [02:16] getting some errors in aptitude when trying to update some packages for kde4... seems like i remember something about ya gotta uninstall/purge or something? [02:16] Jsn0327: /mnt works.... it has to be an existing directory [02:17] dpkg --install --force -all [02:17] Jsn0327: and you should really use the mount configuration tool in system settings->advanced [02:17] so i have to create a directory to mount it to? [02:18] so fyi to all don't try this unless you really want to deal with a large pain...but it can be done [02:19] i have migrated from etch to gutsy [02:19] Jsn0327: yes, you probably want it to be in /media [02:19] nosrednaekim: what directory should i choose as the mount point? [02:20] Jsn0327: try "sudo mkdir /media/" [02:20] ok === charley_ is now known as martalli [02:23] i have no idea to change its default runlevel to 1,ubuntu has no /etc/inittab? [02:24] nosrednaekim: thanks alot. That was easy. I used teh disk & filesystems manager [02:25] Jsn0327: yeah.... that tool is awesome :) [02:25] what would you recgommend for a windows xp virtual machine? Virtual box or vmware? [02:26] virtualbox has worked fairly well for me...I thought to install windows you would need a full copy of vmware... [02:28] virtualbox for sure, but get the non ose [02:28] non ose? [02:29] i.e., not the one in the default repositories, the non-open-source edition.... its far easier to use [02:29] i saw an article of a guy that was running KDE with a virtual machine "seamlessly"? How do you do that? [02:29] and it has USB support [02:29] ose = Open Source Edition [02:29] Jsn0327: its as simple as installing the guest additions (very simple) and then hitting right Ctrl+L [02:31] does anyone know what i have to do to use the s-video (see me computer screen on my t.v.) cable on linux? [02:33] nosrednaekim: do you know of any tutorials on it? i haven't messed with guest additions yet [02:33] Jsn0327: not really, read the user manual which came with it, its really good [02:34] ok [02:35] If I install Kubuntu 7.10, and run the updates, will that update to the latest version of KDE 4? === alan_ is now known as Alan_M [02:36] !kde4 [02:36] KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [02:37] Ok, thanks [02:37] Looks easy to upgrade [02:37] thanks for your help [02:37] bye [02:50] nosrednaekim: I got an error while trying to install virtual box non ose. can i message you with the error? I uninstalled the ose version with the adept manager before i tried to install this one [02:51] Jsn0327: i'm sorry, I have to go.. [02:52] Jsn0327: try #vbox [02:52] ok [02:53] Jsn0327: http://phorolinux.com/installing-virtualbox-ose-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=1f61c06cb1010b0414e29a95ca306130&t=601689#post3698593 [03:00] Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64, and I'm having some problems. Right after I installed it I began installing all the updates, however at one point it encountered an error (I forget the exact message). Then it said there is a new version available (7.10) which is what's installed right now. Also, now when I go to the system settings and go into administrator mode, it still disables the administrator options. [03:04] Oh, so irc.ubuntu.com is the same as freenode? [03:04] tsrk: yes, its a cname [03:05] Oh, ok. May I ask what exactly is a cname? Sorry, I don't know much about this stuff. [03:05] tsrk: its a dns thing [03:06] Ok [03:06] its a pointer basically [03:06] Ah ok [03:06] I have to reboot now to see if the updates will work again [03:11] Hi, how do I open the update checker when the icons not in the system-tray like thing? [03:11] Adept Updater? [03:12] yeah [03:33] slow channel [03:37] well appearently I have wpasupplicant [03:38] but knetworkmanager only show wep and it doesn't have an option for using something else [03:43] installed this wpagui, now to find it >< [03:49] does anyone know how to find out the path to your serial port? i'm trying to set it up in virtualbox [03:53] hmm I think I need to worry about why I do not see any Wireless networks before trying to figure out the encryption problem... [03:55] lol [03:55] what are you trying to do?> [03:56] get the lpatop to connect to a WPA encrypted wireless network [03:57] do you know the password? [03:57] I figured I needed to get knetworkmanager to use WPA, but if I can't find any networks to connect to encryption won't matter. [03:57] yes [03:58] I set the password [03:58] go to knetworkmanager and just click connect to other network [03:58] router is right in front of me. [03:58] and type in anything [03:58] just to send the singal out [03:58] then it should show other ones [03:58] that works for me usually [03:59] you're not showing any connection around your house? [03:59] I have three sections General Settings, Notifications, and Wireless Networks [04:00] go in the last and all it has is alist and I can't do anything. [04:00] right click on knetworkmanager in the panel [04:00] only thing todo in ther is remove item (but list is blank) [04:00] it should show what you can connect too [04:00] ok [04:01] Wired devices, Manual COnfiguration, Options, Help, Quit [04:01] is your wifi card on? [04:01] that might be it [04:02] orange light on the front of the laptop solid color [04:02] and it doesnt show any wireless network? [04:02] nope [04:02] does ubuntu have any problems mounting/accessing ntfs partitions? [04:03] shouldn't [04:03] when I click on the network manager icon Device: No active device >< [04:03] you have to turn it on in the computer [04:03] is there a way to change the color of the scrollbar , change the title bar color etc... I'd like the scrollbar match [04:03] but in the Manual configure options the eth1 (wirelesscard) is enabled [04:03] oh [04:03] wtf [04:04] kaevik: do you have the driver installed? [04:04] right click knetworkmanager and go to manual configuration [04:04] does anyone know how to find out the path to your serial port? i'm trying to set it up in virtualbox [04:04] k === giovani2 is now known as giovani [04:04] then click on the eth1 and configure [04:05] I got knetman up [04:05] kaevik: do your self a favor and uninstall knetwork manager. download wicd and you'll save your self TONS of head aches [04:05] k got that up already [04:05] and put in the info for the network [04:05] already done [04:05] restart your router [04:06] and then your laptop [04:06] and unplug [04:06] from etho [04:08] if it will reboot :s [04:08] woo working so far (rebooting) [04:08] unplug the router for like 5 min [04:11] did anything work? [04:12] is there a way to change the color of the scrollbar I changed the title bar color etc... I'd like the scrollbar match [04:12] is there an alternative to apache [04:12] ? [04:13] bah nope [04:13] lol [04:13] darn [04:13] are you on wired? [04:13] wired internet? [04:13] yea [04:13] yeah [04:13] on the laptop [04:13] DSL [04:13] unplug [04:14] hu? [04:14] and restart [04:14] unplug the DSL line [04:14] what does that do? [04:14] and reboot [04:14] it should discover the network [04:14] apache? [04:14] keep the wifi on during reboot [04:15] I ran Adept and looked for knetworkmanager (says not installed) [04:15] lol [04:15] really? [04:15] matt1728, i dont use wireless, its on a desktop [04:16] lol [04:16] i was talking to kaevik [04:16] lol [04:16] oh [04:16] rofl [04:16] lmao [04:16] nice [04:16] odd how something wasn't installed but is listed in the System menu >< [04:16] yea lol [04:16] install it [04:17] then your problem should go away [04:18] sorry i didnt help out much [04:18] lol [04:19] can some one tell me why when i type in localhost in my browser, apache works, but when i type in my IP address, on another computer, it doesnt work? [04:22] so install knetwork then reboot? [04:22] Kaevik, you talking to me? [04:22] wicd wasn't listed >< [04:22] oh [04:23] lol === alan_ is now known as Alan_M [04:24] I dunno about you , just getting a wireless connection going is not easy for me, tho the wired connection worked super easy. [04:24] Erickj92, are you using iptables? [04:24] dunno [04:24] what are they? [04:25] routing stuff [04:25] Stroganoff, i have port forwarding set up [04:29] oops I should not have drank that mountain dew, I need to goto sleep but I am now kind of hyper. [04:31] well with KNetworkManager 'installed' via Adept same thing is happening no divuce listed. [04:32] and it still has all the information >< [04:32] like as if I neve installed/remove and reinstalled it [04:40] bah I'll try to work on this tomarrow [04:51] how do i unzip .ace files? === janmalte__ is now known as JanMalte === Alan_M is now known as speeddemon8803 === speeddemon8803 is now known as Alan_M === Alan_M is now known as I_didnt_do_IT [05:07] asobi: use unace === leo_rockw is now known as leo_away === Agrajag` is now known as Agrajag === Kaevik` is now known as Kaevik === alan__ is now known as Alan_M === Ahmuck is now known as BunnyRevolution === stephen is now known as techbw [06:40] hi all, just wanted to know is there any way that I can get better fonts for kubuntu 6.06? [07:00] !fonts [07:00] Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer [07:00] only 20 minutes too slow -_- [07:01] thanx for the link. [07:02] my dvd is not playing any sound anymore, im playing with kaffeine, it worked untill i did a cold reboot just a few minutes ago [07:02] sound is working in kaffeine if i play mp3 [07:02] what could be the reason? [07:03] oh! by the way, not font installation, what I am looking for is to set font redering to smoothe fonts a little. I have lcd display and fonts don't look right [07:04] !kaffeine [07:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:04] !Kaffeine [07:05] and sound is working in every other app ? [07:07] techbw: check out this url: http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu [07:07] amarok works too [07:08] have you tried changing the sound driver from auto to oss,alsa, pulseaudio ? [07:09] i have been there, the problem my config has many lines where the autohinter can be inserted, and not really sure on where to insert it, what I have dont now is to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" [07:09] seems to automatically add autohint to .fonts.conf file [07:10] neither works [07:10] although when I actually go and check file, the autohint is not with in the ~/.fonts.conf file [07:11] system sound works too by the way, like kde is playing error sounds [07:12] how do I clear a crash with Adept? [07:13] well sound with kaffeine is jittering actually, when i play mp3s [07:14]