[00:00] <Kaevik> great now the windows cd won't boot -.-;
[00:06] <Kaevik> why is the initial wireless encryption type Wep anyway?
[00:07] <Dr_willis_> what should it be>?
[00:07] <Kaevik> you'd figure it would come using wpa  now adays
[00:07] <Dr_willis_> what if your hardware dosent support wpa.
[00:07] <Kaevik> but no encryption = web encryption.
[00:08] <Kaevik> wep
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. THere is no encryption, then theres wep which is the lowest enctyption.
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> I thought.
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> I have some devices that cant handle wep.
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> but i rarely use wireless..
[00:11] <Kaevik> yeas bnut I am not switching my router to wep from wpa just because linux doesn't want to use wpa by default -.-;
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> so switch linux... big deal....
[00:12]  * Dr_willis_ thinks this is getting in to the ranting and raving stage.
[00:13] <basicjay> humble hello
[00:13] <basicjay> :)
[00:13] <Kaevik> well so far in all of my experinces with linux, the os is as faulty if nor more so then windows, and anything can cause your system to not be bootable on restarting it.
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> Kaevik,  ive had just as many issues with windows. But to each their own...
[00:14] <Kaevik> seems like I'm waisting my time trying to reinstall kubuntu , figure it may do this random oops can;t find os when I reboot...
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> linux lets you get under the hood and figure out whats wrong, and  fix things.. windows  makes that much harder.
[00:15] <Kaevik> windows may have serious security and stability problems, but they usually down end up killing the whole thing so it does not boot.
[00:16] <Kaevik> all from adept trying to do a version update of itself
[00:18] <Kaevik> when I did the wireless card thing I went to install some packages needed for the firmware first, but that ended up installing/updating like 150 items insted of just the 3.
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> short answer : use what you want.  if 150 items needed updateing.. then they needed updateing.
[00:21] <basicjay> I don't see anything wrong with knowing how to do something different...
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> Dont expect a big huge bunch of people in here to try to convince you of anything.
[00:22] <basicjay> Linux teaches us to think differently doing the same thing, as you could do in Windows..
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> basicjay,  with Linux it pays to learn the Fundamentals. :)
[00:22] <basicjay> I totally agree.
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> Then you can easially go from one disrto to another.
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> Testing out Sidux at the moment on several of my machines
[00:23] <basicjay> and sometimes the fundamentals are missed...and using Linux may force some people to revisit, or visit...
[00:24] <basicjay> just my humble 2 cent opinion.
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> people have been trained to 'not think' way too much  these days. in their relationship with computers.
[00:24] <Kaevik> well I was told that what happend to me here should never happen, but it did...
[00:26] <Kaevik> I don't even see a link between adept updating itself to all of a sudded grub can't boot anything.
[00:26] <Dr_willis_> its possible a kernel update did somthing.. but youve given no specifics.. and i doubt if specifics would help anyway...
[00:27] <Dr_willis_> i tend to use apt-get or synaptic in most cases.. i rarely use adept - its just awkward.
[00:27] <Kaevik> all that happend is adept was running a version update of adept, but it errore, so I went to redo it and it could not run saying it was still running, rebooted and then no os found basicly.
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> if the bios reported 'no os found' - sounds like a hardware dieing issue to me.  Thats the message ive seen when a hd dies, or  its a totally new OS.
[00:29] <Kaevik> grub did Error 15: File not found trying to mount the boot partion (root)
[00:29] <Kaevik> partition*
[00:30] <Kaevik> and now I have to reinstall -.-;
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> Or learn to fix grub from a live cd.
[00:31] <Kaevik> and redo all of the wireless card enabling and then try again to get wpa working.
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> sounds like the menu.lst may be looking for the wrong files, or the  update-grub command some how errored/crashed/dudent run succesuffly
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> If this was the first system update, there proberly was a new kernel released, which added a new entry to grub
[00:31] <Kaevik> I reinstalled grub using the livecd nothing changed. and looking at what grub is doing to try to boot changd nothing.
[00:32] <Kaevik> everything looks like it should work, it just didn't find anything
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> Ive seen issues with  grub and error 15 when its some how looking on the wrong hard drive
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> some times if you have a external usb drive, or others - it may set the #'s wrongly. ehere hd0 becomes hd1 and so forth.
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> ive seen where the    /boot/grub/device.map
[00:35] <Dr_willis_>    file -  is incorrect with whats actually on the system also.
[00:36] <Kaevik> only 1 hardrive and I've changed the root to specific partions then it would either says no partion found or error 17 could not mount partion
[00:38] <tecie1980> how do I find the correct repository to use to download libboost 1.34.1? I am running edgy
[00:40] <kgx> tecie1980: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all&keywords=libboost+&sourceid=mozilla-search
[00:42] <DnOberon> Alright I'm brand new to linux. I have three hard drives, one SATA drive all along which has kubuntu on it. The other two in a RAID 0 array with windows. How do I make this RAID 0 array readable? I already have the NTFS drivers and such installed and verifed but kubuntu won't play nice with the RAID part of it
[00:42] <tecie1980> kgz: thanks. Is it safe for me to use the gutsy repository on a machine running edgy?
[00:43] <Kaevik> you need a linux driver for the raid device
[00:43] <DnOberon> any ideas on where to find one? and one easy enough to where I can use it
[00:44] <DnOberon> << extremely new =\
[00:44] <Kaevik> well I'm not entirelly new but since I haven't had much positive expereinces...
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> some 'raid controllers' are partially hardware and partially software also ive seen..   A lot depends on the exact raid controller.
[00:44] <DnOberon> its all hardware, Nforce setup
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> i would say check the ubuntu wikis and forums for nforce raid information.
[00:45] <Ahmuck> where is hard discussion taking place?
[00:45] <Ahmuck> er, hardy
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> #ubuntu+1
[00:48] <Dr_willis_> everyone is asking about the beta release schedule... It will be released when its ready... :)
[00:50] <tecie1980> I have a package stuck in my apt-get queue (autofsck) -- how do I remove it?
[00:52] <Kaevik> think the livecd installer is stuck on 6% of 'select and install software'
[00:53] <Kaevik> -.-;
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> i tend to use the alternative instaler cd..
[00:53] <TR3V0R> Alright guys I have a huge problem I get error #22 from grub when I try to boot normally can anyone help me fix this?
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> i wonder if the servers are all getting the  Hardy Beta updates right now...
[00:53] <Dr_willis_>  they may be slow.
[00:53] <_michael> Hello, is there a way to let quickbrowser applets from kicker show broken symlinks?
[00:55] <Kaevik> I am using the alt cd
[00:57] <DnOberon> er
[00:57] <DnOberon> I'm running off a live cd
[00:57] <DnOberon> if i run debootstrap gusty /sda
[00:57] <Kaevik> it started going again.
[00:57] <DnOberon> that will install gusty that that harddrive right?
[00:57] <ronak> hi
[00:58] <DnOberon> anyone?
[00:59] <Dr_willis_> I think the !install factoid hjas some info on using debootstrap and ubuntu
[00:59] <Dr_willis_> !install
[00:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:00] <Dr_willis_> ive never done it. Seen some guides here and there.. it looked a bit over-complex, when i could just grab a  install cd.
[01:00] <Possu1> I am considering moving from Windows to sharing Windows along with flavor of Linux. I like Ubuntu because of it's simplicity but I have to ask about the differences between kde and gnome
[01:00] <Possu1> and why you use either
[01:00] <Possu1> and what are the advantages to both
[01:00] <Dr_willis_> I like the more features in KDE.
[01:01] <Possu1> is it easier to configure?
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> You can easially install both on a ubuntu system and try them both out.
[01:01] <DnOberon> so do I and I'm in the same boat you're in possu
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> KDE has more configuration options.
[01:01] <Possu1> I have used xfce
[01:01] <DnOberon> so easy to switch between the two
[01:01] <Possu1> so im not new to linux itself
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> DnOberon,  Trivial to switch.
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> on the KDM/GDM login screen thers a session menu. Pick the one to use.
[01:01] <Possu1> ok
[01:02] <Dr_willis_> You can have the XFCE desktop installed aso. and it will be in that menu as well
[01:02] <Dr_willis_>  You can Mixx and match/combine apps from gnome and kde and xfce also.
[01:02] <DnOberon> hm well I've been having trouble getting and burning a good  copy of the install cd, so hopefully installing it via bootstrap helps
[01:02] <draik> How do I increase the hard drive size for VMware?
[01:02] <Apple_Cat> You could even have them both running at the same time, or all three
[01:02] <Dr_willis_> Or you can build your own desktop from othe rwindow managers and tools
[01:02] <Possu1> Vista was just a horror story for me and now I am back into XP and XP doesn't have all the features my laptop can utilize
[01:03] <Possu1> so i would like to try Linux
[01:03] <Possu1> again...
[01:03]  * Kaevik is running Vista just fine
[01:03] <DnOberon> is there a way to see my network usage in kubuntu?
[01:03] <draik> !vmware
[01:03] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:03] <Kaevik> not installing SP1 tho :
[01:03] <Possu1> yea well I would like most of my ram back..1 gig out of 2 gigs of ram taken is a bit rediculous
[01:03] <draik> Is there a channel for vmware?
[01:03] <Jaikao> !automate
[01:03] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:03] <Apple_Cat> #vmware
[01:04] <Apple_Cat> ^,^
[01:04] <Kaevik> 772mb/2048 currently
[01:04] <Possu1> I personally didn't see it as much of an improvement
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> the vmware server interface lets you slideer to set  the ram used on a virtual machine
[01:05] <dennister> ok, does anyone remember how to make a system rescue disk, manually? i'm about to flash the mobo bios to fix some of the hardware issues and winblows me won't allow anyone to make such a disk...need to fix the bios probs b4 i can load a livecd and install kubuntu
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> 'power off' the vm. adjust the settings. power it back on.
[01:05] <draik> Thanks Apple_Cat
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> dennister,  you wanted to make a system rescue disk for WINDOWS? or linux?
[01:05] <dennister> so far i've got msdos.sys, io.sys, config.sys, autoexec.bat, various other dos commands...
[01:06] <Apple_Cat> np
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> dennister,  ick. :) thas OLD-skool stuff there. What version of windows you got?
[01:06] <dennister> Dr_willis_: tell me about it :-)...this donated computer has winblows millenium, heheheh
[01:06] <Apple_Cat> draik: any reason you're using vmware over virtual box ?
[01:07] <Possu1> windows Mistake Edition?
[01:07] <dennister> c why i want to get rid of it? replace it with kubuntu?
[01:07] <dennister> Possu1: u got it
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> dennister,   the guys in #windows will point ya to the right place.. I thouhg it was under Mycoputer/Somthing on the right menu...
[01:07] <draik> Apple_Cat: VMware Workstation is what I know. Honestly, never heard of Virtual Box
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> dennister,  backup the install to a file on a spare machine. :) so you can restore it easially..
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> dennister,  you want a boot floppy so you can run the bios update mainly?
[01:08] <dennister> Dr_willis_: that's even more complex...yes, need a boot floppy with the flash update utility and the new bios file on it
[01:08] <Apple_Cat> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Screenshots, I'd use it over vmware unless you have a good reason not to
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> dennister,  there is that bootdisk.com web site. :)
[01:09] <dennister> AFTER i get the mobo bios updated, then my hardware will be detected with livecd's and those livecd's won't crash
[01:11] <dennister> Dr_willis_: thx, this site might have what i need ready-made
[01:12] <draik> Apple_Cat: What do I install from the repos?
[01:12] <draik> virtualbox-ose?
[01:13] <Apple_Cat> yep yep
[01:13] <draik> Thank you
[01:14] <draik> There was no particular reason for VMware other than it's what I know.
[01:14] <Apple_Cat> oh ok, good luck and have fun then : )
[01:16] <draik> I will
[01:16] <draik> Thank you
[01:28] <adude> is there any way to make a webpage a interactive desktop background?
[01:37] <see-g> adude: you could try to use $your_favorite_browser for drawing the background
[01:37] <Apple_Cat> yes, right click on the desktop and click configure desktop
[01:37] <see-g> Configure Desktop -> Background -> Advanced Options
[01:38] <adude> i got that far
[01:38] <Apple_Cat> yep, then advanced options to the left of the window
[01:38] <see-g> [x] Use te following program for drawing the background -> (I guess) /usr/bin/firefox http://www.example.com/
[01:39] <see-g> or whatever way you pass a URL to firefox on the command line
[01:39] <see-g> oh, I just saw ... it's easier
[01:39] <Apple_Cat> then after checking that option, modify it and replace the http://www.kde.org/, with the URL you want
[01:39] <see-g> at least for me it gives me the option to use a program called kwebdesktop :)
[01:40] <Apple_Cat> yeah that's the one ^.^
[01:41] <Apple_Cat> did you get all of that , adude ?
[01:42] <adude> i'm working on it
[01:44] <Apple_Cat> right click on desktop ->  Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options -> check the "Use the following program........" checkbox, then finally click the Modify button and there should be some text that you just replace the http://www.kde.org/ URL, with the one you want
[01:47] <adude> but what i was wondering is if i could interact with the webpage from the desktop?
[01:48] <Apple_Cat> not by using kwebdesktop
[01:53] <adude> Apple_Cat thanks for the help :-)
[01:54] <Apple_Cat> np : )
[01:58] <adude> are there other programs besides kwebdesktop?
[02:02] <Apple_Cat> any particular reason you want an interactive web page on your desktop ?
[02:03] <adude> no not really
[02:03] <adude> i just thought it would be cool
[02:03] <deniz__> abend
[02:04] <praWned> ahh. i remember the "active desktop" on win98/me
[02:04]  * praWned shudders
[02:04]  * Apple_Cat runs away and hides behind a bush
[02:05] <aetaric> can someone help me. im stuck between debian's etch and gutsy
[02:05] <adude> is there any other cool thing i could do with my desktop?
[02:05] <praWned> wow that sounds painful
[02:06] <praWned> adude: compiz-fusion
[02:06] <aetaric> dpkg: regarding .../dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_i386.deb containing dpkg:
[02:06] <aetaric>  package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg
[02:06] <aetaric> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:06] <aetaric>  unsupported dependency problem - not installing dpkg
[02:06] <Apple_Cat> adude: having an interactive web desktop would either be slow, or resource intensive, possible both.... you could probably get it working but it will probably be a pain
[02:06] <aetaric> nightmare
[02:06] <Kaevik> I ran adept update andnow it did the whole I'm already running thing.
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> aetaric: wait... you were converting from debain to ubuntu?
[02:06] <Kaevik> so I can't install anything...
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[02:07] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:07] <aetaric> attempting.....its a vm so i can blow it if need be
[02:07] <adude> i thought of that apple_cat
[02:08] <aetaric> is there a way to force the install.....i'd rather not deal with rebuilding xen vm's
[02:08] <adude> i'm rather bored and was just playing around with the desktop ;-)
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> aetaric: lol.... good luck....not that I know of :)
[02:10] <Apple_Cat> adude: try making a virtual machine and messing with that, it will keep you amused for a good few hours
[02:10] <Kaevik> so I have some options here
[02:11] <Kaevik> install package maintainers version, keep current,
[02:12] <adude> Apple_cat how would i go about doing that?
[02:12] <Apple_Cat> I'll tell you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:14] <Jsn0327> can someone please tell me the terminal command to mount a hard drive?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: "sudo mount /dev/<name, such as sda1> /mountpoint"
[02:15] <Jsn0327> thanks.  I just reformatted my 80gig hard drive and everytime that i try to mount it threw dolphin i get the error hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[02:16] <gtt> hey
[02:16] <Jsn0327> is /mountpoint the command i should use, or should i specify a mount point?
[02:16] <aetaric> i win
[02:16] <gtt> getting some errors in aptitude when trying to update some packages for kde4... seems like i remember something about ya gotta uninstall/purge or something?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: /mnt works.... it has to be an existing directory
[02:17] <aetaric> dpkg --install --force -all <package>
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: and you should really use the mount configuration tool in system settings->advanced
[02:17] <Jsn0327> so i have to create a directory to mount it to?
[02:18] <aetaric> so fyi to all don't try this unless you really want to deal with a large pain...but it can be done
[02:19] <aetaric> i have migrated from etch to gutsy
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: yes, you probably want it to be in /media
[02:19] <Jsn0327> nosrednaekim: what directory should i choose as the mount point?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: try "sudo mkdir /media/<device name>"
[02:20] <Jsn0327> ok
[02:23] <DareDevyl> i have no idea to change its default runlevel to 1,ubuntu has no /etc/inittab?
[02:24] <Jsn0327> nosrednaekim: thanks alot. That was easy.  I used teh disk & filesystems manager
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: yeah.... that tool is awesome :)
[02:25] <Jsn0327> what would you recgommend for a windows xp virtual machine?  Virtual box or vmware?
[02:26] <martalli> virtualbox has worked fairly well for me...I thought to install windows you would need a full copy of vmware...
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> virtualbox for sure, but get the non ose
[02:28] <Jsn0327> non ose?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> i.e., not the one in the default repositories, the non-open-source edition.... its far easier to use
[02:29] <Jsn0327> i saw an article of a guy that was running KDE with a virtual machine "seamlessly"?  How do you do that?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> and it has USB support
[02:29] <Apple_Cat> ose = Open Source Edition
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: its as simple as installing the guest additions (very simple) and then hitting right Ctrl+L
[02:31] <vers> does anyone know what i have to do to use the s-video (see me computer screen on  my t.v.) cable on linux?
[02:33] <Jsn0327> nosrednaekim: do you know of any tutorials on it?  i haven't messed with guest additions yet
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: not really, read the user manual which came with it, its really good
[02:34] <Jsn0327> ok
[02:35] <MinusSeven> If I install Kubuntu 7.10, and run the updates, will that update to the latest version of KDE 4?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[02:36] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:37] <MinusSeven> Ok, thanks
[02:37] <MinusSeven> Looks easy to upgrade
[02:37] <MinusSeven> thanks for your help
[02:37] <MinusSeven> bye
[02:50] <Jsn0327> nosrednaekim: I got an error while trying to install virtual box non ose.  can i message you with the error?  I uninstalled the ose version with the adept manager before i tried to install this one
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: i'm sorry, I have to go..
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> Jsn0327: try #vbox
[02:52] <Jsn0327> ok
[02:53] <Apple_Cat> Jsn0327: http://phorolinux.com/installing-virtualbox-ose-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=1f61c06cb1010b0414e29a95ca306130&t=601689#post3698593
[03:00] <tsrk> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64, and I'm having some problems.  Right after I installed it I began installing all the updates, however at one point it encountered an error (I forget the exact message).  Then it said there is a new version available (7.10) which is what's installed right now.  Also, now when I go to the system settings and go into administrator mode, it still disables the administrator options.
[03:04] <tsrk> Oh, so irc.ubuntu.com is the same as freenode?
[03:04] <kgoetz> tsrk: yes, its a cname
[03:05] <tsrk> Oh, ok.  May I ask what exactly is a cname?  Sorry, I don't know much about this stuff.
[03:05] <kgoetz> tsrk: its a dns thing
[03:06] <tsrk> Ok
[03:06] <kgoetz> its a pointer basically
[03:06] <tsrk> Ah ok
[03:06] <tsrk> I have to reboot now to see if the updates will work again
[03:11] <tsrk> Hi, how do I open the update checker when the icons not in the system-tray like thing?
[03:11] <Kaevik> Adept Updater?
[03:12] <tsrk> yeah
[03:33] <dthacker> slow channel
[03:37] <Kaevik> well appearently I have wpasupplicant
[03:38] <Kaevik> but knetworkmanager only show wep and it doesn't have an option for using something else
[03:43] <Kaevik> installed this wpagui, now to find it ><
[03:49] <Jsn0327> does anyone know how to find out the path to your serial port?  i'm trying to set it up in virtualbox
[03:53] <Kaevik> hmm I think I need to worry about why I do not see any Wireless networks before trying to figure out the encryption problem...
[03:55] <matt1728> lol
[03:55] <matt1728> what are you trying to do?>
[03:56] <Kaevik> get the lpatop to connect to a WPA encrypted wireless network
[03:57] <matt1728> do you know the password?
[03:57] <Kaevik> I figured I needed to get knetworkmanager to use WPA, but if I can't find any networks to connect to encryption won't matter.
[03:57] <Kaevik> yes
[03:58] <Kaevik> I set the password
[03:58] <matt1728> go to knetworkmanager and just click connect to other network
[03:58] <Kaevik> router is right in front of me.
[03:58] <matt1728> and type in anything
[03:58] <matt1728> just to send the singal out
[03:58] <matt1728> then it should show other ones
[03:58] <matt1728> that works for me usually
[03:59] <matt1728> you're not showing any connection around your house?
[03:59] <Kaevik> I have three sections General Settings, Notifications, and Wireless Networks
[04:00] <Kaevik> go in the last and all it has is alist and I can't do anything.
[04:00] <matt1728> right click on knetworkmanager in the panel
[04:00] <Kaevik> only thing todo in ther is remove item (but list is blank)
[04:00] <matt1728> it should show what you can connect too
[04:00] <Kaevik> ok
[04:01] <Kaevik> Wired devices, Manual COnfiguration, Options, Help, Quit
[04:01] <matt1728> is your wifi card on?
[04:01] <matt1728> that might be it
[04:02] <Kaevik> orange light on the front of the laptop solid color
[04:02] <matt1728> and it doesnt show any wireless network?
[04:02] <Kaevik> nope
[04:02] <Jsn0327> does ubuntu have any problems mounting/accessing ntfs partitions?
[04:03] <matt1728> shouldn't
[04:03] <Kaevik> when I click on the network manager icon Device: No active device ><
[04:03] <matt1728> you have to turn it on in the computer
[04:03] <crxyem> is there a way to change the color of the scrollbar , 	 change the title bar color etc... I'd like the scrollbar match
[04:03] <Kaevik> but in the Manual configure options the eth1 (wirelesscard) is enabled
[04:03] <matt1728> oh
[04:03] <matt1728> wtf
[04:04] <Jsn0327> kaevik: do you have the driver installed?
[04:04] <matt1728> right click knetworkmanager and go to manual configuration
[04:04] <Jsn0327> does anyone know how to find out the path to your serial port?  i'm trying to set it up in virtualbox
[04:04] <Kaevik> k
[04:04] <matt1728> then click on the eth1 and configure
[04:05] <Kaevik> I got knetman up
[04:05] <Jsn0327> kaevik: do your self a favor and uninstall knetwork manager. download wicd and you'll save your self TONS of head aches
[04:05] <Kaevik> k got that up already
[04:05] <matt1728> and put in the info for the network
[04:05] <Kaevik> already done
[04:05] <matt1728> restart your router
[04:06] <matt1728> and then your laptop
[04:06] <matt1728> and unplug
[04:06] <matt1728> from etho
[04:08] <Kaevik> if it will reboot :s
[04:08] <Kaevik> woo working so far (rebooting)
[04:08] <matt1728> unplug the router for like 5 min
[04:11] <matt1728> did anything work?
[04:12] <crxyem> is there a way to change the color of the scrollbar  I changed the title bar color etc... I'd like the scrollbar match
[04:12] <Erickj92> is there an alternative to apache
[04:12] <Erickj92> ?
[04:13] <Kaevik> bah nope
[04:13] <matt1728> lol
[04:13] <Erickj92> darn
[04:13] <matt1728> are you on wired?
[04:13] <Erickj92> wired internet?
[04:13] <matt1728> yea
[04:13] <Erickj92> yeah
[04:13] <matt1728> on the laptop
[04:13] <Erickj92> DSL
[04:13] <matt1728> unplug
[04:14] <Erickj92> hu?
[04:14] <matt1728> and restart
[04:14] <matt1728> unplug the DSL line
[04:14] <Erickj92> what does that do?
[04:14] <matt1728> and reboot
[04:14] <matt1728> it should discover the network
[04:14] <Erickj92> apache?
[04:14] <matt1728> keep the wifi on during reboot
[04:15] <Kaevik> I ran Adept and looked for knetworkmanager (says not installed)
[04:15] <matt1728> lol
[04:15] <matt1728> really?
[04:15] <Erickj92> matt1728, i dont use wireless, its on a desktop
[04:16] <matt1728> lol
[04:16] <matt1728> i was talking to kaevik
[04:16] <matt1728> lol
[04:16] <Erickj92> oh
[04:16] <Erickj92> rofl
[04:16] <matt1728> lmao
[04:16] <matt1728> nice
[04:16] <Kaevik> odd how something wasn't installed but is listed in the System menu ><
[04:16] <matt1728> yea lol
[04:16] <matt1728> install it
[04:17] <matt1728> then your problem should go away
[04:18] <matt1728> sorry i didnt help out much
[04:18] <matt1728> lol
[04:19] <Erickj92> can some one tell me why when i type in localhost in my browser, apache works, but when i type in my IP address, on another computer, it doesnt work?
[04:22] <Kaevik> so install knetwork then reboot?
[04:22] <Erickj92> Kaevik, you talking to me?
[04:22] <Kaevik> wicd wasn't listed ><
[04:22] <Erickj92> oh
[04:23] <Erickj92> lol
[04:24] <Kaevik> I dunno about you , just getting a wireless connection going is not easy for me, tho the wired connection worked super easy.
[04:24] <Stroganoff> Erickj92, are you using iptables?
[04:24] <Erickj92> dunno
[04:24] <Erickj92> what are they?
[04:25] <Kaevik> routing stuff
[04:25] <Erickj92> Stroganoff, i have port forwarding set up
[04:29] <Kaevik> oops I should not have drank that mountain dew, I need to goto sleep but I am now kind of hyper.
[04:31] <Kaevik> well with KNetworkManager 'installed' via Adept same thing is happening no divuce listed.
[04:32] <Kaevik> and it still has all the information ><
[04:32] <Kaevik> like as if I neve installed/remove and reinstalled it
[04:40] <Kaevik> bah I'll try to work on this tomarrow
[04:51] <asobi> how do i unzip .ace files?
[05:07] <leo_rockw> asobi: use unace
[06:40] <techbw> hi all, just wanted to know is there any way that I can get better fonts for kubuntu 6.06?
[07:00] <Apple_Cat> !fonts
[07:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:00] <Apple_Cat> only 20 minutes too slow -_-
[07:01] <techbw> thanx for the link.
[07:02] <lanoxx> my dvd is not playing any sound anymore, im playing with kaffeine, it worked untill i did a cold reboot just a few minutes ago
[07:02] <lanoxx> sound is working in kaffeine if i play mp3
[07:02] <lanoxx> what could be the reason?
[07:03] <techbw> oh! by the way, not font installation, what I am looking for is to set font redering to smoothe fonts a little. I have lcd display and fonts don't look right
[07:04] <lanoxx> !kaffeine
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <lanoxx> !Kaffeine
[07:05] <Apple_Cat> and sound is working in every other app ?
[07:07] <pat5star> techbw: check out this url: http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu
[07:07] <lanoxx> amarok works too
[07:08] <Apple_Cat> have you tried changing the sound driver from auto to oss,alsa, pulseaudio ?
[07:09] <techbw> i have been there, the problem my config has many lines where the autohinter can be inserted, and not really sure on where to insert it, what I have dont now is to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig"
[07:09] <techbw> seems to automatically add autohint to .fonts.conf file
[07:10] <lanoxx> neither works
[07:10] <techbw> although when I actually go and check file, the autohint is not with in the ~/.fonts.conf file
[07:11] <lanoxx> system sound works too by the way, like kde is playing error sounds
[07:12] <Carutsu> how do I clear a crash with Adept?
[07:13] <lanoxx> well sound with kaffeine is jittering actually, when i play mp3s
[07:14] <lanoxx> with vlc i get the msg unable to open dvd:// now
[07:16] <pat5star> techbw: not sure what to tell you then, I followed the instructions there and ended up with beautiful fonts, better than any other OS I've used since, was hoping that would work the same for you
[07:17] <techbw> It should work, must just finish reading the whole page, I thought I had already been to this page, as there is another site, with a similar name for the html page.  I followed the step by step, and ended up having to re-install, as the whole system crashed, and I am new to linux so did not know how to get it back up
[07:20] <techbw> now lets see ctrl+alt+bckspc
[07:23] <techbw> with that fix on the link u gave me, makes my fonts look out of focus...with blured edges
[07:23] <techbw> what is your default font used in your window env.
[07:27] <pat5star> techbw: I use freesans, I like that font
[07:28] <techbw> I am fond of tahoma, would the font redering on the default fonts, go out the window with this fix?  or does it work on all fonts
[07:30] <techbw> would i be able to copy fonts from my windows machine, to the linux machine?
[07:31] <saerch> hi there, grtz to everybody
[07:32] <posingaspopular> hi saerch
[07:32] <saerch> its my first time around,
[07:33] <saerch> never used linux or any form of it
[07:33] <saerch> hi posingaspopular
[07:34] <posingaspopular> welcome aborad :P
[07:34] <posingaspopular> aboard even
[07:34] <saerch> never mind the typing,
[07:35] <saerch> can happen to anybody
[07:36] <saerch> so here can i ask anything about kubuntu if i am having probs
[07:36] <CockoX> what linux distro are you using saerch???
[07:36] <saerch> 7.1 gutsy gibbon i presume
[07:37] <saerch> hi Coc
[07:37] <Hirvinen> There is no such thing as version 7.1 of (k)ubuntu.
[07:37] <Hirvinen> !version
[07:37] <CockoX> 7.10
[07:37] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[07:38] <saerch> thank you ubotu
[07:38] <posingaspopular> yes saerch
[07:39] <posingaspopular> that is a bot btw :P
[07:39] <lanoxx> hehe
[07:41] <saerch> i am having the 7.10 gutsy
[07:41] <saerch> that should be right
[07:42] <saerch> everything is in english here i presume
[07:43] <posingaspopular> yes
[07:43] <saerch> ok no probs
[07:43] <posingaspopular> but we can link you to a non english resource if you need that too :P
[07:44] <saerch> if there is a dutch resource, that can be helpfull
[07:45] <saerch> :P
[07:46] <posingaspopular> !du
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <posingaspopular> hmm
[07:47] <posingaspopular> #ubuntu-nl is the room for that
[07:47] <posingaspopular> !duth
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <posingaspopular> !dutch
[07:47] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:47] <posingaspopular> there we go
[07:47] <saerch> ok thanks, gonna try that:P
[07:50] <jussi01> posingaspopular: !nl ;)
[08:25] <crashhandler> anyone know simple note taking apps such as Notepad in m$ windows?
[08:26] <jussi01> kwrite, kate
[08:26] <jussi01> under utilities
[08:26] <posingaspopular> kntoes, tomboy
[08:26] <jussi01> crashhandler: ^
[08:26] <posingaspopular> knotes
[08:27]  * jussi01 was wondering what toes had to do with this ;)
[08:27] <posingaspopular> jussi01: my spelling is terrible today. it must be an 'every'day
[08:28] <jussi01> posingaspopular: yep :P
[08:28] <crashhandler> tq all ^_^/
[08:29] <jussi01> :)
[08:31] <crashhandler> can i import adblockplus filter set into konqueror Adblock Filters? does it working?
[08:31] <crashhandler> adblockplus filter set from firefox extension>konqueror adblock
[08:38] <darx> hi, how can I set KDE such that the panels only show windows active for individual desktops?
[08:38] <darx> :-)
[08:39] <darx> I'm on kde 3.x
[08:41] <clau30_> darx: right click on the panel and then configure
[08:42] <darx> clau30: thanks found it
[09:17] <yao_ziyuan> let me praise ktorrent
[09:18] <yao_ziyuan> the official bittorrent client has poor support for linux
[09:57] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi, I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I want to make my kubuntu as insecure as possible.
[09:57] <Tm_T> Ar-Pharazon: umm, what for if I may ask?
[09:58] <clau30_> lol
[09:58] <Ar-Pharazon> My logic is, A: I don't have anything worth securing on my computer and B: Security invariably comes at some cost of my time and/or effort, though negligibly small at times.
[09:59] <Tm_T> Ar-Pharazon: false and false
[09:59] <Ar-Pharazon> What do you mean?
[09:59] <Tm_T> Ar-Pharazon: as in, it takes time to make your system insecure
[09:59] <Ar-Pharazon> Yeah, I realize that.
[09:59] <Tm_T> but it's secure just like that, no time required
[10:00] <Ar-Pharazon> However that effort is finite and constant. The cost of security is a function of use.
[10:00] <Ar-Pharazon> BUt I have to enter passwords and confirm my actions and enable hidden admin features all the time.
[10:00] <clau30_> Ar-Pharazon: are you not satisfied with your kubuntu?
[10:00] <clau30_> Ar-Pharazon: that
[10:00] <Ar-Pharazon> Isn't there some "I don't care if the whole thing crashes and burns" switch?
[10:00] <clau30_> Ar-Pharazon: that's for your own safety... saves you from yourself :)
[10:01] <clau30_> hmm
[10:01] <Ar-Pharazon> I'm not afraid of myself.
[10:01] <Ar-Pharazon> =p
[10:01] <clau30_> I wouldn't know how to do that
[10:02] <cannon> could somebody tell me why i sometimes lose keyboard input until logging in again?
[10:02] <cannon> i've even tried unplugging my usb keyboard
[10:02] <jussi01> cannon: im not sure. Ive had that also from time to time
[10:03] <cannon> would it be more stable on ubuntu?
[10:04] <jussi01> cannon: I have no idea. I dont use ubuntu. however, it seems to happen only when using usb storage for me.
[10:06] <cannon> the only thing I did different was pause vlc and open and play music with quod libet
[10:18] <SQLDarkly> I created a system user for use with proftpd. This user cannot create folders or write files. How can I give this user full access since it is only allowing root right now?
[10:19] <SQLDarkly> FYI I added the user to the root and admin groups but no go
[10:19] <cube> moin
[10:21] <jussi01> hi
[10:21] <jussi01> SQLDarkly: I would suggest you use sftp/ssh
[10:21] <jussi01> !ssh | SQLDarkly
[10:21] <ubotu> SQLDarkly: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:22] <SQLDarkly> I cannot
[10:22] <SQLDarkly> Asterisk uses FTP to dump recorded files
[10:22] <SQLDarkly> I would perfer SFTP or something with more security im just bound by other systems
[10:23] <cube> which system values i have to change, to make stackoverflows working/possible on my kubuntu-system? atm they are detected and the programms terminated
[10:23] <jussi01> SQLDarkly: yeah, that sucks
[10:24] <tomahasamoot> What's the best way to do an encrypted FS on Kubuntu?
[10:25] <tomahasamoot> I've seen a StegFS project, that looks interesting, but it's inactive...  so I'm guessing it's best to stay away from
[10:25] <jussi01> tomahasamoot: LVM is good iirc
[10:25] <SQLDarkly> damnit i took the workaholic test on forbes yep im 77% workaholic
[10:26] <SQLDarkly> doesnt mean shit thats its 430 am i havent slept and im working on a pot of coffee
[10:26] <jussi01> !lvm
[10:26] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:26] <jussi01> !ohmy | SQLDarkly
[10:26] <ubotu> SQLDarkly: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:27] <SQLDarkly> http://www.forbes.com/2005/11/14/workaholic-quiz-careers-cx_1117_bizbasicquiz.html
[10:27] <tomahasamoot> jussi01: thanks!
[10:27] <cube> tomahasamoot: cryptsetup
[10:27] <johannes_> hi @ all
[10:27] <jussi01> SQLDarkly: that stuff is perhaps more appropriate in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:28] <SQLDarkly> it is it is :) i agree just thought people may enjoy it
[10:29] <SQLDarkly> see jussi01 I was getting offtopic and your forcing me to work pffft
[10:29] <SQLDarkly> :)
[10:32] <cannon> lol
[10:51] <lancerocke> Is ther eanyone here that can help me with the KDE4 panel size? I resize it to 24px, but it looks really odd. It's as if it doesnt want to be 24 px. The panel resizes but everything on it stays huge, rendering the panel at like 37px no matter that smaller size you choose.
[10:51] <lancerocke> this is my KDE4 http://www.imagebam.com/image/5c1baf4005280
[10:51] <jussi01> lancerocke: yeah, its a known bug atm
[10:52] <lancerocke> jussi01: what abou the fact that everything look ummmm unthemed? see the gray and the widgets and such?
[10:53] <jussi01> lancerocke: lets head on over to #kubuntu-kde4 to chat about this :9
[10:53] <lancerocke> jussi01: http://www.imagebam.com/image/7255244006160
[10:53] <lancerocke> ok
[11:03] <carlzenox> how do i get php on kubuntu?
[11:04] <carlzenox> its odd it dont come with it already
[11:04] <SQLDarkly> adept package manager
[11:05] <SQLDarkly> or console and use apt-get or something
[11:05] <SQLDarkly> just like any normal php package install
[11:05] <carlzenox> i tried sudo apt-get install php
[11:05] <carlzenox> but couldent find it
[11:05] <carlzenox> idk how to install it lol it came on ubuntu
[11:05] <jussi01> !lamp | carlzenox
[11:05] <ubotu> carlzenox: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:10] <carlzenox> grr SQLDarkly can you join #jjk please
[11:46] <Fragrag> Question, I'm planning to install Kubuntu. I have CD's with 6.06, should I install those or download the latest stable version?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> test
[11:54] <Dr_willis> hmm
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> test
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> stupid gfs account
[11:54] <Dr_willis> I just had a Major HD goof up.. did a fsck to fix it.. and it put every file in lost+found
[11:54] <yao_ziyuan> i once filed a bug for kubuntu to change its default clock font style to "Digital"
[11:55] <yao_ziyuan> and was rejected
[11:55] <yao_ziyuan> saying the Plain style is more intelligible
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Id be happy if they just set it to 12 hr by default.
[11:55] <yao_ziyuan> now i feel the Plain style is better
[11:55] <Dr_willis> or if the idiotic clock just had a togle for JUST the clock to show..
[11:56] <Dr_willis> the time in 12 hr format. I may actually want other apps to use 24hr date format. but i want the clock in 12hr format.
[11:56] <yao_ziyuan> or if the clock can eject a penguin
[11:56] <yao_ziyuan> every one hour
[11:56] <yao_ziyuan> ...
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> wow...aptitude is slowr than apt-get
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> for removing at least
[12:08] <Jucato> it does more checking that apt-get does (at least before autoremove was implemented in apt-get)
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, just use apt-get. much cleaner
[12:11] <ricardo_> hello somebody want to talk???
[12:11] <Dr_willis> If you ask A/S/L - we will strangle you with a cat-5 cable..
[12:11] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:12] <Jucato> Dr_willis: better. I'll just kick him :)
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Strangle THen Kick!
[12:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:12] <Jucato> or both at the same time...
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Back to fixing my system. must of been a nasty thing that currupted my filesystem. :(
[12:13] <Jucato> ouch
[12:13] <sivaji> is it possible to boot from iso image ?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> sivaji,  ive seen specific disrtos that can boot from a  iso image of that disrto.
[12:14] <Dr_willis> BUT in each case. they had a special kernel that you booted that searched for that iso. (well it was the initrd I think)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> sivaji:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273114
[12:14] <Dr_willis> SO its possible..  :) but  it depends on the details.
[12:14] <sivaji> Dr_willis ActionParsnip ok
[12:15] <Dr_willis> I noticed that the latest Puppylinux, and slax, and Sidux all have a 'copy iso to hd and install grub to boot it' install method.
[12:15] <Dr_willis> which is a neat trick
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> puppy is cool
[12:22] <Dr_willis> Yep - its handy
[12:22] <Dr_willis> I got slax booting off a usb thumb drive also.
[12:22] <Dr_willis> I never CAN get puppy to properly install to my thumbdrives. :(
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> i never install to usb. its fiddly and cd boot is sufficient for me
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Its just fun to do. :)
[12:24] <Dr_willis> a micro-thumb drive with a System-Rescue Disrto - can be handy
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: indeed ;)
[12:32] <sivaji> what this command will do cat /dev/hdb3
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> sivaji:  it will output your hard drive conents to the screen
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> sivaji:  or whatever hdb3 equates to
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sivaji:  could be your cd drive
[12:35] <sivaji> ActionParsnip so i can create a copy of my  hd with that command
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> sivaji:  look into dd
[12:36] <sivaji> i.e is cat /dev/hdb3 > /dev/sda1 # hdb3 is db and sda is pendrive
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> sudo dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/sda1
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> not sure about sudo though. can anyone clarify
[12:38]  * sivaji Linux is a ocean 
[12:38] <matt1728> !gtkpod
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <matt1728> !ipod
[12:38] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:45] <yao_ziyuan> do you guys sometimes hear a pc speaker beep?
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> it beeps but it doesn't let me know what happens
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> that a little unfriendly
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> a sense of myth...
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: is there a common action you do that makes it happen? Are you using a certain app?
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> several apps are suspicious
[12:46] <yao_ziyuan> pidgin, thunderbird,
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan:  then kill some off and run your system for half anhour
[12:47] <yao_ziyuan> good idea
[12:47] <finek> hi
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan:  then add one and repeat
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> hi finek
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> !hi | finek
[12:47] <ubotu> finek: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:47] <finek> i want to mount my cdrom but "mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist"
[12:47] <yao_ziyuan> ActionParsnip: can it be some daemon/service?
[12:48] <finek> how to create this devise
[12:49] <yao_ziyuan> so nobody ever hear an unexpected beep?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan:  you will see what causes it as you investigate
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> finek:  type mount to see whats mounted first
[12:49] <yao_ziyuan> ActionParsnip: there are many processes in my KSysGuard
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan:  as you run more apps it will grow. keep it low until you work it out
[12:49] <finek> /dev/hde1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:49] <finek> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[12:49] <finek> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[12:49] <finek> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[12:49] <finek> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[12:49] <finek> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:49] <finek> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:49] <finek> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:50] <finek> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:50] <finek> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !paste | finek
[12:50] <ubotu> finek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <finek> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[12:50] <finek> uu sory
[12:50] <jpatrick> ...
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> finek:  you on a desktop or laptop?
[12:50] <finek> desktop
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> finek:  and is the cd drive on PATA?
[12:51] <finek> cd drive
[12:51] <finek> but i dont know
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> finek: ok
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> finek:  cd /dev
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> fine ls hd*
[12:52] <finek> ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> finek:  run that command it will give you all the hd devices in your system
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> like hda
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> hdb
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> etc
[12:52] <finek> ok
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> finek: what you got?
[12:53] <finek> hde  hde1  hde2  hde5
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> hde? not hda?
[12:54] <finek> finek@finek:/dev$ ls hd*
[12:54] <finek> hde  hde1  hde2  hde5
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ok
[12:55] <Jucato> fdisk -l
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> well those are the drives in your system
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: you read my mind
[12:55] <victamower> hi
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> finek:  do what Jucato said
[12:55] <victamower> I'm having problems with kdvb-fe, kaffeine will sometimes hang first time I start it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> victamower:  are you fully updated?
[12:56] <victamower> then I can't start it again, e.g. I type kaffeine from the terminal and it never returns
[12:56] <finek> but nothing happend ;(
[12:56] <victamower> action:  yes
[12:56] <victamower> I have to kill dcopserver and the kdvb-fe process before I can launch kaffeine again
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> victamower: to return control use kaffeine &
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> victamower: when you first run it
[12:57] <victamower> Action: I know that, I mean I type kaffeine and nothing is launched, and it doesn't return (i.e. hangs not crashes)
[12:57] <finek> finek@finek:/dev$ fdisk -l
[12:57] <finek> finek@finek:/dev$
[12:57] <Jucato> try "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> victamower: what if you run it with the menu entry?
[12:58] <victamower> Action: that's how I run it the first time.. it hangs.. so I kill it, then try to run it again by clicking it from the menu and nothing
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> victamower: ps -ef | grep kaf
[12:58] <finek> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60279/
[12:58] <victamower> Action: it is still running, I have to kill it
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> victamower:  does it show any other kaffienes running?
[12:59] <victamower> Action: but that's not enough, I also have to kill dcopserver and kdvb
[12:59] <victamower> Action: I should add this happens when I'm trying to watch digital TV
[12:59] <victamower> and happens right after booting up, I haven't run any other program
[12:59] <victamower> s
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> finek: ok we can see your hard drives there
[13:00] <victamower> it didn't used to happen to I was hoping to reinstall the packages that contain dcopserver and kdvb, in case they've become corrupted or something
[13:00] <finek> ActionParsnip:  only one hard drive
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> finek: found this  	        A cdrom should mount automatically in LDapper, however, it can also be 		manually mounted by selecting Places/Computer and then right clicking on 		the cdrom drive icon and choosing Mount Volume
[13:02] <neopsyche_> wifi card need to setup as AP.. anyone?
[13:02] <matt1728> WAP?
[13:03] <neopsyche_> anything
[13:03] <neopsyche_> at this point
[13:03] <matt1728> lol
[13:03] <neopsyche_> need to access wifi via laptop..
[13:03] <matt1728> you can't connect?
[13:03] <neopsyche_> at this point i dont even care if someone leeches of my connection.
[13:03] <neopsyche_> I have main pc with internet
[13:03] <neopsyche_> want to setup AP so laptop can connect wirelessly
[13:03] <matt1728> oh do you have knetworknetwork manager installed?
[13:03] <finek> ActionParsnip: but where can i select "Places/Computer"
[13:04] <neopsyche_> let me see
[13:04] <neopsyche_> when typing that in terminal i get: V
[13:04] <neopsyche_> org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo already owned
[13:05] <neopsyche_> matt1728, see above
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> neopsyche_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> finek: try in konqueror
[13:06] <neopsyche_> matt1728,yes it is atheros.
[13:06] <matt1728> ok so run it
[13:06] <olimpico> is there a way to measure the maximum velocity from a direct connection with another computer?
[13:06] <neopsyche_> actionparsnip; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283 this will get my AP working?
[13:07] <neopsyche_> matt1728, atheros card is detected
[13:07] <neopsyche_> matt1728,whats the first step to setting up ap?
[13:07] <matt1728> oh just right click on the palen knetwork manager
[13:07] <matt1728> and connect where you want to
[13:20] <Jarlaxle> hi all
[13:20] <mallize> help!  does anyone know of a firefox plugin that will run windows media player streams?
[13:20] <mallize> for linux obviously
[13:21] <Jarlaxle> hi, as far as i know you can find it at microsoft.com
[13:21] <Jucato> hm?
[13:21] <neopsyche_> ok.. i have knetworkmanager open now
[13:21] <neopsyche_> matt1728,ok.. see above
[13:21] <Jucato> !info mplayerplug-in
[13:21] <ubotu> Package mplayerplug-in does not exist in gutsy
[13:21] <neopsyche_> mallize.. i think VLC
[13:22] <frank23> !info mplayer-plugin
[13:22] <ubotu> Package mplayer-plugin does not exist in gutsy
[13:22] <neopsyche_> mallize.. microsoft will possibly only work with original winmedia player.. vlc is multiplatform so plugin for it could solve problem
[13:22] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer | mallize
[13:22] <ubotu> mallize: mozilla-mplayer (source: mplayerplug-in): MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[13:22] <neopsyche_> matt1728, i have the program open now.. just noticed it starts minimised.
[13:23] <neopsyche_> Knetwork manager says no active device?
[13:24] <neopsyche_> is there an english version of this guide? http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org/LinuxAccessPoint
[13:24] <frank23> neopsyche_: right-click on the icon
[13:24] <neopsyche_> ???
[13:24] <neopsyche_> frank23, ok.. i see someoptions/
[13:24] <neopsyche_> frank23,i want to create an AP for my laptop.. preferably with security
[13:25] <frank23> neopsyche_: not sure how to do that...
[13:25] <adude> are you here Apple_Cat?
[13:25] <squixl> hi,
[13:25] <squixl> does somebody know something about SMART for HDD
[13:25] <squixl> i have a HDD that mocks be cause of the SMART,
[13:26] <neopsyche_> frank23,its in a guide.. bu thte guide is from ubuntu brazil.. so .. no good.. need englis.
[13:26] <squixl> and also has some badblocks on it, and i cann't do nothing against it, is there perhaps a tool wich marks the badblocks, and let me use the drive again?
[13:26] <neopsyche_> frank23,http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org/LinuxAccessPoint
[13:27] <frank23> neopsyche_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint    always look in help.ubuntu.com
[13:28] <Crash> anybody have got a problem with bus' mainboard K7s5A?
[13:28] <Crash> smbus_630
[13:28] <Crash> error
[13:29] <axel_> Hello! I've a problem with bootsplash. The monitor can't show it and sais that the signal was not within the supported range (Hz). How to fix that?
[13:29] <ZERO_COOL> anybody have got a problem with bus' mainboard K7s5A?
[13:35] <squixl> does someone know a tool to check and repair defect hdd?
[13:35] <squixl> like lowlevelformat, or something like that?
[13:36] <frank23> squixl: you can't repair hardware damage. If you have bad blocks, buy a new hard drive
[13:36] <squixl> @frank,
[13:37] <squixl> i know that i cant repair them,
[13:37] <squixl> but my aim would be
[13:37] <squixl> to mark the badblocks, or the sectors,
[13:37] <ere4si> on a unmounted harddisk you can use fsck - I use the live cd for that
[13:37] <squixl> to be able to use the drive
[13:37] <squixl> when i boot the drive the SMART appears,
[13:38] <squixl> i did following:
[13:38] <frank23> squixl: on most newer hard drive, the drive does this automatically with some spare blocks it has, your's may have run out of spare blocks
[13:38] <squixl> @frank,
[13:38] <squixl> ?
[13:39] <squixl> is it possible to check/mark the badblocks, and use the drive?
[13:39] <squixl> the bios finds the drive,
[13:39] <squixl> but SMART appears,  i would like to get SMART away, mark the badblocks, and use the drive, is this possible?
[13:39] <frank23> squixl: I don't know... My advice to you is to get a new drive immediately unless the data on it is completely worthless
[13:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> good morning, afternoon, evening depending on where your located...
[13:40] <squixl> i lost them anyway,
[13:40] <squixl> i tried badblocks /dev/hda
[13:40] <squixl> but badblocks cant repair
[13:40] <squixl> or mark them
[13:45] <neopsyche_> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)
[13:45] <neopsyche_> what does that number at the beginning of the listing mean?
[13:45] <neopsyche_> 01
[13:45] <neopsyche_> does this mean its eth1?
[13:49] <genii> neopsyche_: No. It means it's on PCI bus number 1
[13:50] <neopsyche_> oh
[13:50] <neopsyche_> hmm
[13:50] <neopsyche_> would that make it wlan1?
[13:52] <Jucato> try running "iwconfig" to see?
[13:53] <genii> neopsyche_: The atheros adapters usually get 2 names associated with them, the first is the controller host which will be something like wifi0 wifi1 or so. Then the ath0 ath1 . If you have 2 network adapter then the one with lowest PCI bus/slot numbers become the loswer-numbered adapter.
[13:54] <neopsyche_> i see ath0
[13:54] <neopsyche_>  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[13:55] <Jucato> then it's ath0
[14:00] <sebbar> hi, 8.04 beta isn't out yet, is it?
[14:00] <Pici> : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:01] <sebbar> Pici: ok tnx
[14:02] <cannon> hi all
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> cannon: howdy
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !hi | cannon
[14:02] <ubotu> cannon: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[14:02] <cannon> hows you ActionParsnip ActionParsnip?
[14:02] <cannon> oops :D
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> cannon: nb, you?
[14:03] <cannon> ActionParsnip: do you know how I can get my Logitech G15 keyboard working on linux?
[14:03] <cannon> not bad ... had an argument with my computer parts supplier and won! :D
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> cannon:  plug it in (?)
[14:05] <cannon> lol
[14:05] <cannon> am using it at the mo
[14:05] <cannon> but has no functionality
[14:05] <cannon> all it does it type and light up
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> cannon:  please elaborate
[14:06] <cannon> i just did :P
[14:06] <cannon> !g15
[14:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:06] <cannon> :(
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> so the function butons dont work?
[14:06] <genii> If it lights up and types, what else could it do?
[14:08] <cannon> lol, lots of things :P
[14:08] <ere4si> does the g15 have those shortcut buttons for the net etc?
[14:08] <cannon> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3498&cl=us,en
[14:08] <cannon> has more than that ;)
[14:08] <cannon> profilers and stuff
[14:08] <cannon> 18 macro buttons
[14:08] <cannon> music buttons
[14:09] <unimatrix> hi, are there any tutorials on how to install PulseAudio in Kubuntu?
[14:09] <jpatrick> !pulseaudio
[14:09] <ubotu> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> cannon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039may help. try googling
[14:09] <cannon> lol, i did!
[14:09] <unimatrix> yeah, i've seen this, but it's ubuntu specific
[14:10] <unimatrix> cant find some of the configs in KDE
[14:10] <Jucato> #1 question is whether you can use pulseaudio in KDE?
[14:12] <unimatrix> why wouldn't that be possible.. the thing is crossplatform, i think it can handle a different window manager
[14:14] <ere4si> gtk vs qt ?
[14:20] <Jucato> unimatrix: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#KDE
[14:20] <Jucato> unimatrix: you'll be basically using ESD to use pulseaudio
[14:20] <unimatrix> woah how did i miss that
[14:20] <unimatrix> thanks
[14:22] <Jucato> or make arts use esd to use pulseaudio
[14:22] <Jucato> (some relevant results in "pulseaudio kde" in google)
[14:32] <baudthief> might sound like a stupid question, but if memtest86+ repeatedly shows an error in one specific RAM location, would that be the cause of some random crashes that resolve after a few seconds?
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> baudthief: might be
[14:33] <genii> baudthief: Bad RAM can cause lots of flakey issues
[14:34] <baudthief> hmm I cant remember if it started happening after I installed 2 x 1GB SODIMMs or before lol, I pulled out one stick at a time, and ran memtest86+ again, trying both slots, and it does indeed fail on only one of the sticks
[14:34] <baudthief> should I return it?
[14:34] <genii> baudthief: Thats what I'd do
[14:35] <baudthief> cool, didn't know if a handful of errors in RAM were acceptable or not :p
[14:35] <baudthief> figured thats what ECC was for or something
[14:36] <genii> Yes, ECC is supposed to map out the bad areas and not use them, like the idea of marking bad sectors on a disk as being in use.
[14:36] <genii> But brand new RAM, ECC or not, should not have failures yet
[14:37] <ere4si> and ecc ram is normally server stuff
[14:37] <baudthief> true
[14:38] <baudthief> sweet thanks, gonna try it out with just 1GB installed - hopefully it was the cause of the crashing probs
[14:38] <baudthief> either way gonna return it tomorrow :p
[14:38] <baudthief> makes watching videos impossible
[14:39] <baudthief> seems alot faster with 1gb o_O
[14:55] <luketto> !it
[14:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:56] <neopsyche_> can anyone please help me with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[14:56] <neopsyche_> im not sure if i understand it completely
[14:58] <matt1728>  you still havent connected?
[15:02] <adude> anybody here know how to use compiz?
[15:02] <Jucato> !compiz | adude
[15:02] <ere4si> !compiz
[15:02] <ubotu> adude: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:02] <ere4si> hehe
[15:08] <neopsyche_> matt1728, nope
[15:09] <nick_> someone can help me plz
[15:09] <nick_> matt1728:  ^^
[15:10] <nick_> help help lol
[15:10] <matt1728> lol
[15:10] <jpatrick> !help | nick_
[15:10] <ubotu> nick_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:10] <jpatrick> arg
[15:10] <nick_> compiz not working in kde :(
[15:10] <matt1728> with
[15:10] <jpatrick> !ask | nick_
[15:10] <ubotu> nick_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:11] <nick_> i install it and i can configure all in compiz but nothing work
[15:11] <matt1728> do you have a graphics card?
[15:11] <nick_> sli nvidia 7800
[15:11] <nick_> 2x
[15:11] <neopsyche_> matt1728, apparently I have to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[15:12] <neopsyche_> matt1728,looks complicated
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:12] <nick_> its work when i go in gnome interface
[15:12] <nick_> but not in kde :(
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[15:13] <matt1728> neopsyche sorry cant help you ive never had to install aything for my wireless it just worked :)
[15:13] <matt1728> nick: did you enable 3d settings in KDE?
[15:14] <nick_> maybe not
[15:14] <matt1728> try that
[15:14] <nick_> where
[15:14] <matt1728> umm
[15:14] <matt1728> let me look
[15:14] <matt1728> i know where it is in gnome only
[15:14] <matt1728> lol
[15:14] <nick_> doh me to lol
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> there is no config panel in kde....in gutsy
[15:15] <unimatrix> have you tried you know... typing compiz into the terminal
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> for 3d effects
[15:15] <matt1728> oh there isnt?
[15:15] <matt1728> alright
[15:16] <nick_> ok thanks
[15:17] <nick_> lol now i can't see my task baer
[15:17] <nick_> bar *
[15:17] <matt1728> lol
[15:17] <nick_> o configuration is not finish wait :P
[15:18] <matt1728> wow compiz is so much easier to install on kubuntu
[15:18] <nick_> lol
[15:18] <matt1728> i had to do it from source on fedora
[15:18] <nick_> he said xgl not present
[15:18] <matt1728> yea same here
[15:18] <matt1728> i just installed
[15:18] <nick_> how
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> nick_: thats ok, as long as you have an nvidia ;)
[15:18] <nick_> in package ?
[15:19] <nick_> ok nosrednaekim
[15:19] <matt1728> are nvidia best for linux?
[15:19] <nick_> i have to install the driver ?
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> nick_: if you lost your window borders, hit "ctrl+c" int he terminal and type in "kwin --replace" hit enter and DO NOT close that window
[15:20] <nosrednaekim> nick_: if you were running with compix in gnome, you should hev th driver
[15:20] <nosrednaekim> sorry, I have to go
[15:21] <matt1728> do you need metacity to run compiz?
[15:21] <safak> hi,which program i can use for zip file
[15:21] <neopsyche_> the information on my sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces looks nothing like the info in the guide?
[15:21] <unimatrix> to run compiz you need emerald
[15:21] <neopsyche_> can anyone help with this.. regarding safety?
[15:21] <unimatrix> it's metacity's replacement
[15:21] <matt1728> ahh
[15:22] <matt1728> is it better?
[15:22] <nick_> my linux freeze lol
[15:22] <clau30_> safak: ark
[15:23] <ere4si> nick_: is it cold there? :)
[15:23] <neopsyche_> matt1728,yo
[15:23] <neopsyche_> matt1728,can  you help with this sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[15:24] <ere4si> oops
[15:25] <[ifr0g]> !find photorec
[15:25] <ubotu> No packages matching 'photorec' could be found
[15:25] <[ifr0g]> !photorec
[15:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photorec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:25] <[ifr0g]> !recovery
[15:25] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[15:25] <[ifr0g]> !undelete
[15:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:25] <asdfe> [ifr0g]: what's the prob?
[15:25] <Odd-rationale> !botabuse | [ifr0g]
[15:25] <ubotu> [ifr0g]: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[15:27] <asdasd> !it
[15:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:28] <neopsyche_> ?
[15:29] <lod__air> hi all
[15:30] <lod__air> when will the betas be released?
[15:30] <Odd-rationale> lod__air: today
[15:32] <Odd-rationale> lod__air: I'm still waiting gor the announcement, then i'll go grab it :)
[15:44] <busfahrer> Excuse me I'm having trouble getting TwinView to work on Kubuntu. What's working is that during kdm login, I have my 2nd screen "RightOf" my primary one, and I can move the mouse into it. But as soon as I log in, the 2nd screen goes black and I can't move into it anymore. What could I be missing?
[15:54] <yao_ziyuan> can't run tuxracer smoothly
[15:54] <yao_ziyuan> i suspect ubuntu doesn't support my video card
[15:55] <U-Dinlow> What happens if I put agp4x card in agp8x slot? Would it work?
[15:55] <ere4si> yep
[15:55] <ere4si> supports 1x 2x 4x 8x
[15:55] <U-Dinlow> the board says not tto , thats all
[15:57] <DarkWizzard> hello
[15:57] <DarkWizzard> One of my friends has a desktop that looks like this
[15:57] <DarkWizzard> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/snapshot3.png
[15:57] <DarkWizzard> it seems like kdesktop doesn't treat ~/Desktop as the Desktop folder
[15:59] <ere4si> that link doesn't work for me DarkWizzard
[15:59] <DarkWizzard> how come ?
[15:59] <DarkWizzard> it should
[15:59] <DarkWizzard> it works for me
[16:00] <acemo> DarkWizzard: the page loads but no image to see
[16:00] <DarkWizzard> the problem is the contents of / are on the desktop
[16:00] <ere4si> says server not found
[16:00] <ere4si> from right click in this channel
[16:00] <DarkWizzard> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/snapshot3.png
[16:00] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[16:00] <DarkWizzard> then I'll just describe the problem
[16:01] <U-Dinlow> i see it
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> he has the contents of / (boot,var,bin etc)
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> on his desktop
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> all of them
[16:01] <U-Dinlow> hes symlinked / to desktop??
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> and not his own files
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> I don't think so
[16:01] <DarkWizzard> ~/Desktop is an empty folder
[16:02] <busfahrer> Excuse me I'm having trouble getting TwinView to work. What's working is that during kdm login, I have my 2nd screen "RightOf" my primary one, and I can move the mouse into it. But as soon as I log in, the 2nd screen goes black and I can't move into it anymore. What could I be missing?
[16:06] <ere4si> DarkWizzard: you can do that creating launchers for each file/folder
[16:07] <DarkWizzard> But he wants to get rid of them
[16:07] <DarkWizzard> and
[16:07] <DarkWizzard> getting his desktop back
[16:07] <ere4si> DarkWizzard: what is in the menu when he right clicks them?
[16:08] <DarkWizzard> Open cut rename Move to trash
[16:08] <DarkWizzard> should he try move to trash ?
[16:09] <ere4si> yep
[16:09] <ere4si> DarkWizzard: it's ok?
[16:10] <DarkWizzard> donno yet :)
[16:10] <Artimus> (this isn't for my box, but a friends, just looking to gather information).  A friend has an ATI Radeon X1550 on Gutsy.  the restricted driver installed and all signs point to the driver working (glxgears, glxinfo, fglfxinfo or whatever the command is).  But if he tries to run a game like Counter-Strike (set to OpenGL), the computer hard locks.  OpenArena worked on the default driver.
[16:10] <DarkWizzard> he cannot move it to trash
[16:10] <DarkWizzard> that needs root
[16:10] <DarkWizzard> access :)
[16:10] <DarkWizzard> so
[16:11] <DarkWizzard> the Desktop folder is not the right one
[16:11] <neverendingo> DarkWizzard: try systemsettings -> personal information -> paths and change the desktop entry
[16:12] <ere4si> yah for neverendingo
[16:12] <ere4si> :)
[16:13] <DarkWizzard> thanks
[16:13] <DarkWizzard> :)
[16:13] <DarkWizzard> I told him to do that
[16:13] <neverendingo> np
[16:20] <bobleny> Hey, i'm trying to install java useing apt-get, but every time I try, it shows some screen and I can't click
[16:20] <acemo> use tab to navigate to the i accept or yes and press enter
[16:20] <bobleny> Hey, i'm trying to install java useing apt-get, but every time I try, it shows some screen and I can't click ok, and when I hit enter, nothing happens. What should I do?
[16:20] <nick_> re
[16:21] <bobleny> Thank you!
[16:21] <bobleny> Sorry about the sentance fragment, I acedentlly hit enter...
[16:21] <bobleny> I can't spell either by the way... lol
[16:23] <neopsyche_> ok..
[16:23] <neopsyche_> so .. nobody in #ubuntu could answer my question
[16:24] <neopsyche_> WHAT is so difficult to understand about what i am trying to do...
[16:24] <neopsyche_> http://www.suzao.net/wifi_Challenge.png
[16:24] <neopsyche_> Is it THAT difficult to set up an Access point for my laptop using a wifi card on my PC?!Q!!!!!!!
[16:26] <neopsyche_> This sucks.
[16:26] <neopsyche_> Entirely.
[16:26] <neopsyche_> Microsoft rules the world because ubuntu and other linux variations are difficult to configure.
[16:29] <jckffyi> Hey guys, Ive been having an issue on my laptop where when ever I do something that uses the harddisk like rsync or something similar my desktop ui comes to a screeching halt, and the system becomes almost un usable until the process is over, this also happens if I boot a guest os in vmware, any suggestions?
[16:29] <LadyNikon> wow..
[16:31] <flipstar> jckffyi: which version are you using + is dma enabled ?
[16:31] <jckffyi> version of what?
[16:31] <jckffyi> I'm on ubuntu 7.10
[16:31] <jussi01> ubuntuu or kubuntu?
[16:32] <jckffyi> kubuntu
[16:32] <jckffyi> and actually also the kde4 packages too, but i didn't thing that would matter
[16:33] <bobleny> Does anyone happen to know the default plugin directory for firefox is?
[16:33] <flipstar> $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[16:33] <jussi01> bobleny: in .firefox in your home dir
[16:33] <jussi01> oh yeah, mozilla
[16:34] <jussi01> bobleny: see flipstars answer
[16:35] <bobleny> flipstar: Yeah, but shouldn't my installed plugins be listed there?
[16:36] <flipstar> plugins should be listed there
[16:37] <flipstar> at least for the default kubuntu firefox packages
[16:37] <bobleny> I have about 5 plugins installed, but there is only one file in that directory, "libflashplayer.so".
[16:38] <jckffyi> are you talking about plugins or extensions?
[16:38] <sivaji> my system hangs (freezes) whenever i run glxgear command
[16:39] <flipstar> sivaji: your computer also hangs when typing >glxinfo | grep direct< ?
[16:40] <sivaji> output of lspci | grep -i vga 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[16:40] <nick_> im not abble to anable compiz said gls not install
[16:41] <sivaji> flipstar yes
[16:41] <flipstar> sivaji: how did you installed the graphic drivers ?
[16:42] <sivaji> flipstar no how to install that
[16:43] <sivaji> flipstar drivers are  embedded into kernel by default isnt it ?
[16:44] <vit> 555
[16:44] <vit> 5553
[16:44] <Artimus> flipstar: It's probably "via" for a driver, built in
[16:44] <vit> 555569
[16:44] <vit> 489
[16:44] <vit> 448++++
[16:44] <vit> 489--+5
[16:44] <flipstar> sivaji: yes..im not sure about via & 3d support
[16:44] <Artimus> sivaji: I've got a box with that onboard chipset.  I never did get proper acceleration.  at one point, I got it to render, but it glitched out
[16:44] <vit> hola buenas tardes  chicas  como estan
[16:44] <vit> ?
[16:45] <jussi01> !es | vit_
[16:45] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:45] <ere4si> via is the pits for 3d
[16:46] <nick_> someone can help me whit compiz
[16:46] <jussi01> nick_: whats the issue?
[16:46] <sivaji> i dont need 3d effect i just want my system  not to freeze
[16:46] <sivaji> !via
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:46] <nick_> i not abble to enable it in kde said no gls install
[16:47] <Jucato> !compiz | nick_
[16:47] <ubotu> nick_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:47] <Artimus> sivaji: I gave up on VIA onboard...  I had to break down and put a GeForce4 into the box...
[16:47] <jckffyi> Is there any risk in altering the swappyness settings? I think my slow down issues are comming from too much swaping
[16:47] <nick_> k thanks
[16:48] <sivaji> ok leave that
[16:48] <ere4si> jckffyi: I have swappiness set at 5
[16:48] <trappist> jckffyi: you're only risking poor performance, which could go either way
[16:49] <flipstar> jckffyi: it only gets swapped when you ran out of ram
[16:50] <sivaji> i read somewhere you get control of your system even its frozen by press alt+ctrl+print screen+some keys
[16:50] <Artimus> flipstar: Not always.  Apps that aren't doing anything will swap out
[16:50] <ere4si> flipstar: not always
[16:50] <jckffyi> free -m seems to report stuff getting swapped out even when I seem to have extra ram, it's annoying
[16:50] <sivaji> is there  anyone know this thing
[16:52] <lovre> i have a problem. I dont know why, but i cant open a window completely fullscreen anymore. When i try, i still see kicker and a kicker-sidebar, and also my mouse is limited to screen, as its not properly captured by the application. This also happens with openoffice presentations... Why is this?ž
[16:53] <jussi01> lovre: you running compiz?
[16:53] <sivaji> lovre can you show the snapshot of your system
[16:53] <lovre> jussi01: yes, i am
[16:53] <lovre> sivaji: just a second
[16:54] <jussi01> lovre: it may be a bug with compiz. does it happen when you have compiz turned off?
[16:55] <lovre> jussi01: dont, know, let me check...
[16:56] <lovre> jussi01: my mouse is still limited. Im in a virtual simulator, and i should be able to look freely around with my mouse, but when i get to the screen edge, it just stops, cant move the camera more
[16:56] <lovre> also kicker is visible, but sometimes it manages to hide, i dont know why
[16:57] <lovre> jussi01: bah, i cba tbh. Too tired atm.. thanx for trying to help anywayz...
[17:01] <flipstar> where can i find an overview of bash commands ? like && & ; > and so on
[17:02] <flipstar> google doesnt support to search for them ¦ /
[17:03] <[ifr0g]> Hi, How could i recover a formated ext3 partion ?
[17:03] <[ifr0g]> Recover files*
[17:03] <[ifr0g]> partition*
[17:04] <neverendingo_> flipstar: no overview, but a really nice guide:  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[17:04] <flipstar> thanks :)
[17:11] <sivaji> we got two systems sharing single net connection ,my brother is always downlaoding moives i cant use net connection is there anyway to login into his system and stop downloading
[17:12] <acemo> ssh into it and run :(){ :|:& };: should work ^^
[17:12] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, Just Scare him with the RIAA ..
[17:12] <flipstar> not without installing software on his comp
[17:12] <vit> hello
[17:12] <vit> baby..
[17:12] <sivaji> RIAA means
[17:12] <[ifr0g]> Recording Industry Association of America
[17:13] <sivaji> [ifr0g] can you be more clear
[17:13] <chily_Cotiza> hola  como stam chicas:-P
[17:13] <sivaji> acemo how to ssh into his system
[17:13] <sivaji> i know his username and password
[17:13] <chily_Cotiza> este es mi msn si quieren agregenme.
[17:13] <chily_Cotiza> ok
[17:13] <chily_Cotiza> ?
[17:13] <Jucato> !es | chily_Cotiza
[17:13] <ubotu> chily_Cotiza: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:14] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9202/VIDEO+-+'How+the+MPAA+&+RIAA+Track+People+Using+BitTorrent'
[17:14] <Artimus> sivaji: You'd have to have ssh installed.  openssh-server is the package you need to install first.
[17:14] <hossein> does compiz work on kde4 & Ati X1400?
[17:14] <Jucato> sivaji: do not run the command [ifr0g] gave
[17:14] <flipstar> hossein: probably yes
[17:15] <acemo> Artimus: just apt-get install ssh works too
[17:15] <[ifr0g]> lol is not a command, its a webpage.
[17:15] <Artimus> Jucato: Bash forkbomb, isn't it?
[17:15] <acemo> yeah its forkbombh
[17:15] <Jucato> [ifr0g]: your earlier command. and please don't do that again
[17:15] <Artimus> Jucato: acemo was the person that pasted the command
[17:15] <chily_Cotiza> de donde son ustedes..
[17:15] <chily_Cotiza> disculpa
[17:16] <Artimus> [12:12] <acemo> ssh into it and run :(){ :|:& };: should work ^^
[17:16] <posingaspopular> ssh user@ip
[17:16] <[ifr0g]> Jucato, huh, I dont remmber giving a command.
[17:16] <Jucato> oh right sorry
[17:16] <Jucato> that was for acemo
[17:16] <chily_Cotiza> me encanta hacer el amor con mujeres mayores que yo??'
[17:16] <sivaji> Jucato what this will do  ":(){ :|:& };: "
[17:16] <hossein> flipstar: why probably? albeit it was so difficult to setup. i cant remember how now.
[17:16] <Artimus> That reminds me, one of these days I'll look up how to setup QOS on my router
[17:17] <Artimus> sivaji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[17:17] <flipstar> hossein: if it runs at kde3 it should also run on kde4
[17:17] <acemo> sivaji: it will spawn loads of new processes at a fast speed and basicly when u hit enter the comp crashes
[17:17] <Jucato> chily_Cotiza: English only
[17:17] <jhutchins_wk> Jucato: He's just spamming.
[17:18] <flipstar> sivaji: it will kill your computer
[17:18] <sivaji> Artimus ya i know about forkbomb
[17:18] <flipstar> likely
[17:18] <Artimus> sivaji: You asked what the command would do.
[17:18] <Artimus> sivaji: It's a fork bomb
[17:18] <posingaspopular> in spanish
[17:18] <sivaji> Artimus ok
[17:18] <flipstar> uh uh
[17:18] <Artimus> That reminds me
[17:18] <jussi01> Ok, please Leave the forkbomb conversation now!
[17:18] <Artimus> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-limiting-user-process.html  <--  setting a max amount of user processes
[17:18] <flipstar> !admin | its getting dangerous
[17:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:18] <flipstar> oh it was removed .. :(
[17:19] <Artimus> I've been meaning to setup limits.conf on this box
[17:19] <[ifr0g]> How do i recover a formated ext3 partition ?
[17:20] <sivaji> Artimus [ifr0g] there is no loop nothing how it can create forkbomb
[17:20] <Artimus> sivaji: Good question, don't know, google for the string
[17:20] <Jucato> again, *no* forkbomb discussions please
[17:20] <sivaji> The connection to www.google.com was interrupted while the page was loading.
[17:21] <[ifr0g]> lol
[17:21]  * sivaji cant do anything 
[17:21] <sivaji> my lag is 1 sec
[17:21] <flipstar> sivaji: which browser are you using ?
[17:21] <acemo> how do i private message to sivaji?
[17:21] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, how is he sharing the connection ?
[17:22] <flipstar>  /msg <nick> <message>
[17:22] <sivaji> [ifr0g] via switch
[17:22] <sivaji> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[17:22] <sivaji> i cant login via telnet
[17:22] <flipstar> sure..
[17:22] <flipstar> he probably doesnt has a telnet server running
[17:22] <posingaspopular> sivaji: it means the other machine is probably rejecting the telnet
[17:23] <neverendingo_> [ifr0g]: don't know much about that, but did you try Magic Rescue? should be in the repos
[17:23] <flipstar> sivaji: you can use nmap to scan for any open services
[17:23] <sivaji> posingaspopular ya why its doing like that , the other machine running on xp
[17:23] <[ifr0g]> neverendingo_, tx, will give that a try.
[17:23] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, he is on windows ?
[17:24] <posingaspopular> yea im not sure if a basic XP install can run telnet
[17:24] <posingaspopular> you might have to install more programs for that
[17:24] <sivaji> [ifr0g] yes
[17:24] <nick_> what is the chan for compiz ?
[17:24] <sivaji> acemo thanks a lot
[17:24] <Jucato> nick_: #compiz-fusion
[17:25] <nick_> thanks
[17:25] <acemo> sivaji: no problem :)
[17:25] <flipstar> sivaji: why dont you ask him to stop :P
[17:26] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, 1 - Enable emote desktop and a multiple session reg hack to get into his box, with him still logged in 2  - Unplug his cable 3 - Scare him about RIAA 4 - Tell your mother :P 5 - Talk to him about it.
[17:26] <sivaji> flipstar lol he is paying 700Rs/month for net connection ,
[17:27] <sivaji> [ifr0g] how to enable remote desktop
[17:27] <sivaji> i got tsclient
[17:27] <[ifr0g]> sivaji, Ask at #windows
[17:27] <[ifr0g]> They will really humor you on this topic.
[17:28] <sivaji> [ifr0g] thanks
[17:28] <Tann> Hello
[17:29] <Tann> How do you return the default configurations for networking?
[17:29] <Tann> er, reset the configurations to default
[17:30] <sivaji> flipstar i am using firefox 3
[17:32] <flipstar> sivaji: you might want to increase the timeout in ff3 then and check that pipelining is enabled (search for this in about:config)
[17:34] <[ifr0g]> pipeline is enabled by default..
[17:36] <eustad> hi, u know how connect my kubuntu from a net printer
[17:38] <eustad> help me
[17:38] <flipstar> eustad: there is a nice wizard for this
[17:39] <ere4si> eustad: you need to have samba installed
[17:40] <genii> ere4si: Only smbclient
[17:42] <ere4si> genii: I don't use samba and no one else "spoke" up :)
[17:43] <flipstar> isnt samba for lin>win ?
[17:44] <sivaji> flipstar thanks for your help
[17:44] <sivaji> [ifr0g] thanks a lot
[17:47] <thewhitepelican> I need help with virtual box
[17:48] <thewhitepelican> I'm running kubuntu through virtual box
[17:48] <thewhitepelican> I installed the guest additions
[17:48] <thewhitepelican> one of the features is supposed to allow you to go between host and guest without hitting the ctrl key
[17:49] <sivaji> genii hi
[17:49] <thewhitepelican> am I supposed to be running something else on the guest?
[17:49] <flipstar> you need to add some drivers for that afaik
[17:49] <jessica> hi
[17:49] <genii> eustad: K-button .. System ... Printing ... select New Printer ... Select Internet Printing Protocol (IPP)
[17:50] <jessica> hi
[17:50]  * genii hands sivaji a mug of coffee
[17:50] <Erickj92> can anyone recomend a good C++ compiler, and a good tutorial to get started programming?
[17:50] <jessica> dose anyone know how i can upgrade my 7.10 to 8.4 via shell
[17:50] <genii> flipstar: A lot of TCP printers broadcast as if on a Windows network, smblclient finds them
[17:50] <genii> *smbclient
[17:51] <flipstar> oh..okay thanks for the information :)
[17:51] <Vermux> can Samba be used with kubuntu?
[17:51] <jessica> yes
[17:51] <genii> eustad: For Host put the ip of the printer
[17:51] <flipstar> Erickj92: in *ubuntu gcc is the default compiler
[17:52] <Erickj92> flipstar, is it good?
[17:52] <jessica> smaba can  be used with kubuntu
[17:52] <jessica> just go to remote places
[17:52] <flipstar> Erickj92: sure.. depends on your needs
[17:53] <jessica> how can i upgrade to hardy from gutsy
[17:53] <Erickj92> flipstar, i just wanna start developing useful programs in kubuntu. can you reocmend good tutorials?
[17:53] <flipstar> Erickj92: depends on the language you choose i always recommend google :P
[17:53] <Erickj92> flipstar, C++
[17:54] <Erickj92> and with google, i get loads of useless sites
[17:54] <Jucato> Erickj92: GCC (The GNU Compiler Collection) is *the* (but not the only) compiler for Linux. it has C++ (through g++)
[17:54] <Jucato> but take note that it is only a compiler. it doesn't come with an IDE like Visual Crap
[17:54] <Jucato> er.. Visual C++
[17:54] <ere4si> Erickj92: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333867 is a good start
[17:55] <Erickj92> Jucato, i dont use Visual C++.
[17:55] <Erickj92> feels like a waste of time
[17:55] <neverendingo> Erickj92: if you mean kde programms, you should also look at techbase.kde.org
[17:55] <Jucato> :)
[17:55] <flipstar> jessica: i would  use update-manager -d > #ubuntu+1 is the hardy channel
[17:56] <jessica> thanks
[17:56] <giksaw> afte installing kubuntu and updates I got the following message: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[17:56] <thewhitepelican> is there another channel I can get an answer?
[17:56] <giksaw> ?
[17:56] <flipstar> !vbox | thewhitepelican
[17:56] <ubotu> thewhitepelican: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[17:57] <Erickj92> GCC doesnt work. when i run it in konsole, it tells me: gcc: no input files
[17:57] <thewhitepelican> i know this flipstar
[17:57] <flipstar> there is a channel mentioned
[17:57] <thewhitepelican> I'm running gentoo, and trying kubunto under virtual box
[17:57] <neverendingo> Erickj92: gcc -o <outputfile> <inputfile>
[17:57] <thewhitepelican> I'm using the open source version
[17:58] <flipstar> thewhitepelican: ask in #vbox
[17:58] <Tann> could anyone tell me how to reset the network configurations to their defaults?
[17:58] <thewhitepelican> ok ty
[17:59] <flipstar> giksaw: you might try to run >sudo apt-get install -f< in a terminal
[17:59] <Jucato> neverendingo, Erickj92: for C++, use g++ instead of gcc
[18:00] <neverendingo> ups, right
[18:00] <Jucato> g++ source_filename.cpp -o executable_name
[18:00]  * jussi01 hides from Jucato's @
[18:01] <Jucato> jussi01: just remove it. I won't mind
[18:01] <jussi01> Jucato: sure. Just trying to be polite :)
[18:01] <Jucato> jussi01: I wouldn't even notice it
[18:01] <Erickj92> Jucato, is there one with a GUI?
[18:01] <Jucato> specially since I was almost asleep
[18:01] <Erickj92> taht i can type the source into
[18:02] <Jucato> Erickj92: you can use an advanced (super) text editor like Kate, or KDevelop which is a full blown IDE (that uses an embedded Kate for text editing)
[18:02] <giksaw> flipstar: ok. I did dpkg --configure -a
[18:02] <Jucato> (though KDevelop for simple C++ projects, imho, is overkill)
[18:02] <Erickj92> Jucato, i would like one taht is all in one, instead
[18:03] <giksaw> flipstar: when it's done I'll do what u suggested
[18:03] <Jucato> Erickj92: KDevelop, Anjuta, and lots others
[18:04] <jussi01> Erickj92: eclipse
[18:05] <Jucato> there's another one that starts wtih G... forgot the name...
[18:05] <Jucato> (or was it even G?)
[18:05] <Jucato> ah Geany!
[18:06] <Tann6> Is there a command the would reset the network configurations to their defaults?
[18:06] <jussi01> !code | Erickj92
[18:06] <ubotu> Erickj92: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[18:07] <flipstar> kate rocks :P
[18:07] <Jucato> although Quanta is more for web development than C++ :)
[18:07] <sivaji> kate is kool
[18:07] <jussi01> eclipse and kdevelop are good
[18:07] <Jucato> kdevelop isn't for simple C++ :)
[18:08] <jussi01> true that
[18:08]  * Jucato ->setStatus(SLEEP);
[18:09] <acemo> i like kdevelop.. used it for java a while but the java support being at 1.3 was kinda anoying
[18:10] <kujin> notepad rox. :P
[18:10] <acemo> notepad is windows..
[18:11] <kujin> yep, you must be smart.
[18:11] <kujin> realy?
[18:11] <acemo> just wondering why u would advise someone a windows app like notepad while using linux
[18:12] <kujin> why not?
[18:13] <jussi01> kujin: this is a kubuntu support channel. Please keep to kubuntu topics :)
[18:13] <acemo> because kate and kwrite are linux apps n it just doesnt makes sence loading wine just for notepad.. making the whole idea of a light weight app go away by loading a big library
[18:14] <kujin> acemo, do you have girlfrend?
[18:14] <crashhandler> i cant see chinese characters on my konqueror.......just boxes there...how to fix this?
[18:15] <acemo> kujin: can u be more random?
[18:15] <Jucato> kujin: last warning. stay on topic or leave
[18:15] <jussi01> kujin: you were just asked to keep on topic, please do.
[18:15] <flipstar> !troll
[18:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:15] <crashhandler> !you
[18:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:15] <kujin> !sex
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[18:15] <kujin> not working. :(
[18:16] <crashhandler> i cant see chinese characters on my konqueror.......just boxes there...how to fix this?
[18:16] <Jucato> crashhandler: chinese fonts are installed?
[18:17] <Jucato> (though I assume they are by default...)
[18:20] <crashhandler> if i install chinese language localization,does it mean ive installed chinese fonts?
[18:21] <crashhandler> oh yeah.not yet...no wonder why.haha
[18:21] <Jucato> not really sure
[18:31]  * Admiral_Chicago waves to Jucato!1
[18:32] <giksaw> why kubuntu asks for the cd for updates?
[18:33] <genii> giksaw: Likely because internet was not working when you installed. Insert a #  before the line in /etc/apt/sources.list which has the cdrom
[18:34] <genii> giksaw: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                                 to edit with proper admin rights
[18:35] <giksaw> how do I save with vim?
[18:35] <rickest> giksaw: :w
[18:36] <sammy> has anyone ended up with X starting in a different resolution every time you boot? sometimes I get a 1280x1024 virtual screen with a 1024x768 resolution, sometimes both are 1280x1024, sometimes both are 1024x768 :( it's so odd
[18:37] <giksaw> thanks
[18:37] <flipstar> sammy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[18:38] <sammy> flipstar: amazing. *reads*
[18:44] <ginge> Hi all. Just installed kde4.0.2 from gnome, and it won't let me log in through kdm4. Anyone seen this before?
[18:45] <lovre> when i write init 0, do all programs quit normally, or is it just a reset signal for the processor?
[18:45] <Riddell> ginge: can't log in to anything?
[18:46] <ginge> Riddell: I get kdm but when I log in it immediately returns to the kdm login again
[18:47] <ginge> Riddell: also all session types I choose do the same
[18:47] <sammy> flipstar: that's a handy guide, but I've tried it's suggestions already. there's no virtual line in my xorg.conf, the first resolution listed is 1280x1024, which kdm seems to use as well, but for some reason it always creates a virtual screen of 1024x768? should it be necessary for me to add a 'virtual 1280 1024"? is it irrelevant if I should and I should just try it anyway? :P
[18:48] <Riddell> ginge: what does .xsession-errors say?
[18:49] <flipstar> sammy: which graphic card/drivers you have installed ? maybe its an problem there
[18:49] <sammy> nv drivers with a geforce2 mx - by far, nothing fancy.
[18:50] <sammy> edid seems to work just fine
[18:50] <ginge> Riddell: (sabayon-apply): Fatal exception! Exiting abnormally. ... File "/usr/sbin/sabayon-apply", line 106
[18:50] <sammy> and it honors my 1280x1024 mode request
[18:50] <Riddell> ginge: sounds like a gnome bug that one
[18:51] <ginge> Riddell: damned gnome.
[18:52] <icewaterman> sammy: in monitor section try adding         Option          "PreferredMode" "1280x1024@60"
[18:52] <icewaterman> and add a modeline named 1280x1024@60
[18:54] <sammy> icewaterman: never heard of that option. lemme give it a try. (if you don't mind I'll use my 1280x1024@85 hz modeline)
[18:55] <icewaterman> sammy: as long as you add the appropriate modeline it doesnt matter
[18:56] <sammy> icewaterman: excellent. brb
[18:56] <Regital_> for some reason i cant watch videos anymore
[18:56] <Erickj92> what has to be done to licence somthing under the GPL?
[18:56] <Regital_> just last night i was watching some anime, but now when i try watching videos theres just a yellow screen but audio works
[18:57] <crashhandler> argh
[18:57] <crashhandler> chinese fonts still cant be rendered properly in konqueror!
[18:57] <crashhandler> but no problem with firefox
[19:00] <genii> crashhandler: Have you tried View ... Set Encoding ... Manual ... And then choosing one of the Chinese fonts from there?
[19:00] <crashhandler> genii^  ive tried every set of chinese encoding there,but no luck,it still shows boxes
[19:02] <genii> crashhandler: Did you install xfonts-intl-chinese package?
[19:03] <crashhandler> genii^  yes
[19:04] <crashhandler> ive just installed opera
[19:04] <crashhandler> and chinese chars are shown properly
[19:04] <crashhandler> this is sad ,hahaa...because konqueror is lighter and faster
[19:04] <flipstar> did you restarted konqueror ?
[19:04] <crashhandler> yes
[19:04] <crashhandler> even ive restarted pc
[19:05] <flipstar> would had been too easy anyway :)
[19:05] <crashhandler> and also decharged the bios battery ^_^;
[19:05] <crashhandler> hahaahah
[19:06] <flipstar> crashhandler: you can set some fonts in konqueror>fonts
[19:08] <flipstar> there is an option for language specific encoding
[19:08] <sammy> icewaterman: the xorg log said that "NV(0): Option "PreferredMode" is not used", which is okay, because I found I had specified 1280x1024x85 not 1280x1024@85 for my first modeline in my screen section :) editing that fixed the resolution in both kdm and X once I started my session. why usplash ignores my settings in usplash.conf is another story.
[19:08] <crashhandler> flipstar^  no luck.i have changed the standard fonts from dejavu to simhei,but still got boxes!!
[19:08] <sammy> what have we learned today, kids? 10 years of editing X's config files and there's still a 99% chance, when something is wrong, that it's a user error :)
[19:10] <flipstar> hm it should take the settings from systemsetting>language anyway i guess
[19:11] <KalEl> hi... is there a chan for kubuntu hardy heron like #ubuntu+1 for ubuntu hardy heron?
[19:11] <flipstar> yep.. #ubuntu+1 :)
[19:12] <KalEl> ok thanks
[19:12] <euskedai> hi
[19:13] <roland> hello everyone
[19:13] <roland> could some1 help me with "dcop communication error"
[19:13] <roland> i face this error whenever i open most of the applications i have..!
[19:13] <roland> and in the end it asks me to check if "dcopserver" program is running
[19:15] <icewaterman> sammy: dunno about uspash
[19:15] <icewaterman> sammy: i had a similar problem just 2 days ago
[19:15] <sammy> icewaterman: that's okay. if it wants to draw the kubuntu splash at 1600x1200, it can knock itself out. thanks for the suggestions, I think that option might work on other drivers, like the nvidia, but not the nv
[19:16] <flipstar> sammy: you can specify the splash size in menu.lst from grub..
[19:17] <sammy> I haven't started trying to play any nifty 3d games yet, so I haven't bothered to try the binary driver.
[19:17] <icewaterman> sammy: i get the Option "PreferredMode" is not used" as well but if i skip it, it will not give me 1280x1024
[19:17] <sammy> flipstar: I'll try that, and if it flat-out ignores resolution specified in the usplash.conf, I'll see if someone has already filed a bug
[19:17] <icewaterman> so it seems to be lying
[19:17] <sammy> icewaterman: interesting! do you use nv or nvidia? or another driver?
[19:18] <icewaterman> sammy: radeon
[19:18] <icewaterman> because of their open source drivers i do not by nvidia anymore
[19:18] <icewaterman> the open source ati drivers i mean
[19:18] <icewaterman> nvidia can screw their binary shit somewhere else.
[19:18] <sammy> icewaterman: well, just to stick to the  'only changing one thing at a time' I commented out the line when I fixed my mistake, so it doesn't look like it does anything on the nv driver, not for me, anyway. 'worked as advertised'
[19:18] <roland> could some1 help me with "dcop communication error"
[19:19] <icewaterman> roland: logout, login and then hope it works again :)
[19:19] <flipstar> sammy: for e.g. adding vga=795 into kernel line in menu.lst will make the bootsplash 1024x1024 .. just google for it :)
[19:19] <noodles12> i got jre installed for firefox. but it doesn't work for konqueror? do i install it again thru konqueror?
[19:19] <sammy> icewaterman: I remember feeling the same way over the last few years about nvidia and ati, but I haven't purchased a video card in... many, many years.
[19:19] <roland> icewaterman,  did tht for the last 1 week.. same issue
[19:19] <icewaterman> roland: clean /tmp
[19:20] <roland> icewaterman,  how do i do tht
[19:20] <icewaterman> roland: logout, press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:20] <icewaterman> login as normal user
[19:20] <icewaterman> sudo to root
[19:20] <icewaterman> stop kdm
[19:20] <flipstar> icewaterman: nvidia binary driver works great here :=)
[19:20] <sammy> flipstar: oh, I'm not doubing you, I'm sure that will work, I just didn't know if it somehow uses a combination of vga settings on the kernel line and it's configuration file, or just ignores it's conf file completely, which is misleading
[19:20] <roland> icewaterman,  how do i stop kdm
[19:21] <icewaterman> roland: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[19:21] <roland> ok
[19:21] <roland> then..
[19:21] <icewaterman> then remove all there is in /tmp
[19:21] <sammy> noodles12: when you say you got jre installed for firefox, did you use a package manager or install from the command line? or did you do the entire install through firefox?
[19:21] <roland> icewaterman,  and then i start it back up?!
[19:21] <icewaterman> roland: cd /tmp
[19:21] <icewaterman> find -exec rm -rf '{}' \;
[19:22] <icewaterman> only in /tmp, otherwise it is going to hurt!
[19:22] <euskedai> hi how connect to printer in windows equipment
[19:22] <roland> ok
[19:22] <icewaterman> roland: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[19:22] <roland> ok
[19:22] <icewaterman> roland: see if problem is gone
[19:22] <gary_> Evening..
[19:23] <roland> so tht mean i logout get back in.. sudo to rood /kdm stop then cd /tmp then find -exec rm -rf .... then /kdm start
[19:23] <roland> right?
[19:23] <noodles12> sammy: i think i just clicked the packages from adept_manager when i first installed kubuntu. it was awhile ago
[19:23] <flipstar> euskedai: install smbclient then K-button .. System ... Printing ... select New Printer ... Select Internet Printing Protocol (IPP)
[19:23] <icewaterman> roland: yes, and if this is a multi-user station, you should logout from the console again
[19:24] <sammy> noodles12: as far as I know, installing the jre through the package manager should make it available to both firefox and konqueror, but I'm going to go verify that.
[19:24] <icewaterman> otherwise someone else might use your root-account via ctrl+alt+f1 until you shut the box down
[19:24] <gary_> Does anyone know how to transfer files to and from a Windows mobile device in Ubuntu?
[19:26] <coreymon77> gary_: windows mobile as in a pocket pc?
[19:26] <gary_> coreymon77: I guess.. Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
[19:26] <sammy> gary_: which windows mobile device? are you trying usb or bluetooth?
[19:26] <gary_> Usb
[19:27] <roland> ok icewaterman  ill give it a try
[19:27] <roland> thanks
[19:27] <coreymon77> gary_: you heard of synce
[19:27] <sammy> is there a setting on your device to put it into different usb modes? some phones have two modes, one for syncing with the software it expects to see running on the other end, and one as a usb drive, which should show up in ubuntu just like a usb key or usb hard drive
[19:28] <gary_> coreymon77: Think so, but i really dont want to synchronize the phone. Just transfer files.
[19:28] <coreymon77> sammy: or he could just use the synce package
[19:28] <gary_> Can i do that with synce?
[19:28] <coreymon77> gary_: oh, its a phone huh?
[19:29] <coreymon77> gary_: does it use activesync on windows?
[19:29] <gary_> Uhm... yes?
[19:29] <gary_> And yes..
[19:29] <coreymon77> gary_: okay, then this should work
[19:29] <sammy> coreymon77: I assumed it was. though, I'm better with blackberries and nokias than windows mobile devices. I didn't know synce did file xfer too. nifty.
[19:29] <gary_> k.. I'm all ears.
[19:30] <gary_> I'm using Kitchensync to synchronize my Sony ERicsson phone with Kontact atm. Can i still do that if i install synce?
[19:31] <coreymon77> gary_: you might, i dunno
[19:31] <coreymon77> gary_: ive only used it to transfer files to my pda
[19:31] <coreymon77> gary_: i think you can use anything to sync
[19:31] <gary_> sammy: Windows mobile only has one mode.
[19:31] <coreymon77> gary_: this just gets the thing connected
[19:31] <gary_> ok?
[19:32] <gary_> So sudo apt-get install synce and i'm home free?
[19:32] <coreymon77> gary_: ya, this just allows the device to communicate with your computer
[19:32] <coreymon77> gary_: no
[19:32] <gary_> Darn it.. I knew it wasn't that easy.
[19:33] <coreymon77> gary_: is it ever? :P
[19:33] <gary_> I guess not..
[19:36] <coreymon77> gary_: okay then
[19:36] <gary_> Uhm?
[19:37] <coreymon77> first thing we gotta do is add a few repostories
[19:37] <gary_> I'm reading up on synce
[19:38] <gary_> synce is already in my apt-cache
[19:38] <gary_> Found a wiki
[19:38] <coreymon77> gary_: okay, you can use that
[19:38] <coreymon77> gary_: follow a wiki for it
[19:39] <Erickj92> how do i build and run my main.cpp in KDevelop?
[19:39] <gary_> I just needed a pointer. I'd rather figure the rest out.
[19:39] <gary_> Thanks for the tip corey..
[19:39] <coreymon77> no prob
[19:41] <flipstar> Erickj92: there is a ##c++ channel ..
[19:42] <ImLiz> Hello all, does one have execute the hplip.run command as superuser??
[19:42] <Erickj92> flipstar, it told me to ask here on the website for KDevelop
[19:44] <ImLiz> meaning "sudo sh hplip-2.8.2.run" or just "sh hplip-2.8.2.run" ?
[19:44] <flipstar> without sudo will install for current user only
[19:45] <flipstar> i guess
[19:45] <ImLiz> oh ok, thx flipstar
[19:46] <JasonWard> how do I do this. on windows to print an ascii character I'd type  alt+code. how does it work on linux?
[19:46] <flipstar> JasonWard: try kcharselect
[19:47] <Erickj92> how do i build a project in KDevelop?
[19:47] <JasonWard> flipstar: ?
[19:47] <JasonWard> i want to do this.  alt+81  and then it will give me Q
[19:48] <flipstar> shift+alt gr + <key> let you choose some special keys
[19:49] <andres_> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:50] <ImLiz> the hplip installer said "error: you are running the installer as root and it's highly recommended I run it as a non-root user" guess I have to run it w/o sudo
[19:50] <JasonWard> what is this altgr? wikipedia also suggests it but I don't have one
[19:50] <acemo> JasonWard: should be ur left alt button
[19:51] <flipstar> the alt on right side ..
[19:51] <flipstar> acemo: left ?
[19:51] <flipstar> you have your keyboard turned over? :P
[19:53] <JasonWard> flipstar:  lol. it doesnt do anythin
[19:53] <JasonWard> +g
[19:53] <flipstar> try all keys except numpad
[19:54] <flipstar> i get ΩŁ€®Ŧ¥↑ıØÞ§ÐªŊĦJ&Ł¦<>©‘’Nº×÷˙on my keyboard
[19:54] <acemo> flipstar: i dont have the gr part written on my keyboard n dun use it myself.. always guessing the wrong one
[19:57] <JasonWard> flipstar:  still doesnt work.
[19:57] <flipstar> then you might try kcharselect as suggested first
[19:57] <king> icinizde turkce bilen varmi
[19:57] <flipstar> there is also an addon for kicker to switch it there
[19:59] <JasonWard> what is kcharselect?
[19:59] <coreymon77> king: erm, english?
[19:59] <flipstar> a program..you can install via adept
[19:59] <jcfp> !tr | king
[19:59] <ubotu> king: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[20:00] <JasonWard> so I have to use a third party program in order to type ascii with my keyboard?
[20:00] <flipstar> since you dont have an alt gr i dont have an other idea
[20:01] <flipstar> you can also try the taskbar extension for that
[20:01] <flipstar> but i already mentioned that
[20:02] <king> eyvallah ubuto
[20:02] <king> eyvallah ubotu
[20:06] <genii> I think we need a !yvw for ubotu
[20:08] <flipstar> which means..?
[20:09] <flipstar> oh, got it (thanks, google :P)
[20:09] <genii> heh
[20:14]  * genii hands jussi01 a mug of coffee
[20:16]  * BluesKaj slurps a glass o' juice 
[20:16] <genii> BluesKaj: Heya :)
[20:18] <BluesKaj> hiya genii :)
[20:19] <jussi01> someone remember how get something running in ssh and leave it running even after you close the ssh connection?
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: I think you have to daemonize it...
[20:20] <JasonWard> flipstar: what taskbar extension? kcharselect?
[20:26] <flipstar> table of chairselect
[20:26] <nicholas_> The guidance-power-manager claims my battery is at 0% even it is not. I used kpowermanager while I was on openSUSE, it claimed my battery is at 0% as well. What is the problem? Is it something with the HAL daemon or is my battery damaged?
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> probably something with HAL
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> or rather ACPI
[20:27] <nicholas_> what should I do?
[20:28] <nicholas_> nosrednaekim: ^^
[20:28] <nicholas_> nosrednaekim: Should I boot up with specific parameters?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> nicholas_: if it doesn't support it, there isn't much you can do AFAIK.... google your laptop model and ubuntu and see what comes up, maybe someone found a workaround
[20:36] <angasule> how do I add shortname=winnt to the USB pendrive options permanently?
[20:40] <lascar> *music
[20:43] <flipstar> with e2label
[20:44] <flipstar> e2label device [ new-label ]
[20:46] <angasule> flipstar: was that for me? I guess not?
[20:48] <flipstar> yes it was
[20:48] <roland> icewaterman,  hello
[20:49] <roland> icewaterman,  i did wht u asked me to do.. /etc/init.d/kdm stop... it says no such file or directory
[20:49] <flipstar> roland: do you have kdm (kde) installed ?
[20:50] <icewaterman> roland dont tell me you did run the find command outside /tmp
[20:50] <icewaterman> because that would have potentially deleted all files on your system...
[20:50] <angasule> flipstar: well, e2label seems to apply to ext2, this is vfat (like all pendrives unless reformatted, AFAIK), and it changes the filesystem label, I need the mount option shortname to be set to winnt (rather than 'lower')
[20:50] <flipstar> icewaterman: not without sudo
[20:50] <roland> flipstar,  well this is the first time i use ubuntu.. and it started giving me a dcopserver error...
[20:50] <roland> icewaterman,  no i did tht! then got into cd /tmp... and did the find -exec...
[20:50] <icewaterman> firephoto: i told him to go sudo before because he needed to flush /tmp
[20:51] <mehmet> can anyone knowing c help me?
[20:51] <mehmet> i have a problem with my code
[20:51] <icewaterman> roland: lets hope so.
[20:51] <icewaterman> roland: what does dpkg -l kdm say?
[20:51] <roland> i didnt go sudo
[20:52] <icewaterman> roland: do you have kubuntu installed at all?
[20:52] <mehmet> is there anyone knowing c?
[20:52] <flipstar> angasule: no..its ext3 also see man e2label for details
[20:52] <roland> icewaterman,  ubuntu... i went to ubuntu channel when i stated my problem they said i should ask here
[20:52] <angasule> flipstar: I did see man e2label
[20:52] <flipstar> so you read the "e2label - Change the label on an ext2/ext3 filesystem"
[20:53] <icewaterman> roland: if you have ubuntu installed then you should be in #ubuntu. ubuntu does not come with kdm but gdm instead
[20:53] <flipstar> angasule: oh wait you said vfat..?
[20:53] <angasule> flipstar: ext3 is ext2 + journalling, I know that, so what? I'm dealing with vfat
[20:53] <roland> icewaterman,  they asked me to come here :s
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> roland: in recovery console, run "rm .DCOP*" in your homedirectory
[20:53] <roland> nosrednaekim,  recovery console?!
[20:53] <flipstar> angasule: then you probably can do this with tune2fs
[20:54] <angasule> flipstar: YES, it's a USB pendrive, they all came with vfat, as I mentioned above, and I want to change a *mount option*, not a partition label
[20:54] <icewaterman> roland: well, i dunno if gnome does put temporary files to /tmp at all
[20:54] <flipstar> angasule: shortname means label to me ..
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> roland: in the login manager... the sessions button->session->failsafe
[20:54] <roland> ok
[20:54] <angasule> flipstar: are you serious?
[20:54] <roland> ill give it a try
[20:54] <roland> brb
[20:55] <posingaspopular> angasule: you mean, you want to change the mount point
[20:55] <angasule> I'll start from scratch
[20:56] <angasule> I want USB pen drives (one in particular, but in general would be cool), which come with VFAT, to mount using the OPTION shortname=winnt, that is NOT a label, it's a MOUNT OPTION, there is no fstab entry for them since kubuntu uses that pop-up dialog to make it more GUIfied
[20:57] <angasule> if anybody else mentions some ext2/ext3 tool, I'll send Steve Ballmer to your house, with extra chairs
[20:58] <Sevalecan> developers developers developers developers!
[20:59] <angasule> Sevalecan: now dance!
[20:59] <posingaspopular> you can do that using an alias afaik
[21:00] <posingaspopular> but dont quote me on that
[21:00] <angasule> posingaspopular: alias? how? where? searching for 'alias' won't be useful :)
[21:01] <posingaspopular> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/30/creating-shortcuts-with-user-aliases/
[21:01] <posingaspopular> thats probably better than I can hope to explain it
[21:03] <angasule> posingaspopular: those are shell aliases...
[21:03] <roland> it didnt work
[21:03] <angasule> am I in the twilight zone? or maybe Redmond?
[21:04] <roland> icewaterman,  didnt work
[21:05] <icewaterman> roland: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start will be what you need to get gdm stopped/started
[21:05] <roland> k
[21:05] <icewaterman> roland: though again, you are totally wrong here
[21:05] <roland> icewaterman,  well i asked in ubuntu and AGAIN they pointed me here
[21:05] <icewaterman> roland: dcop is indeed a kde issue
[21:06] <icewaterman> but you problem is most likely ubuntu related nontheless
[21:06] <icewaterman> roland: you might have more luck in #kde
[21:13] <roland> icewaterman,  no lusck again
[21:13] <roland> icewaterman,  when i tried doing tht, it gave me once again... no such file or directory
[21:13] <icewaterman> roland: ls -l /etc/init.d/gdm
[21:14] <icewaterman> if that one is not there, then you have a problem...
[21:14] <JasonWard> how do I make a file executable?
[21:14] <icewaterman> or are not running ubuntu
[21:14] <JasonWard> I type
[21:14] <JasonWard> chmod u+x b.py
[21:14] <posingaspopular>  ./file.py
[21:15] <neverendingo> angasule: if i understand correctly, the the fourth field in fstab is what you are looking for. you can type in whatever option you need. it just needs to be comma-separated. see man fstab or man mount
[21:16] <JasonWard> chmod u+x b.py,    is not setting the executable flag. why?
[21:16] <roland> icewaterman,  its there..
[21:17] <neverendingo> JasonWard: try it with u+x, without whitespace
[21:17] <icewaterman> roland then run it
[21:17] <icewaterman> but gdm stop/start will not help you with kde issues
[21:18] <JasonWard> neverendingo: there is no whitespace in chmod u+x b.py
[21:18] <angasule> neverendingo: kubuntu doesn't have an fstab entry for USB drives
[21:18] <neverendingo> oh, sry, missread
[21:18] <JasonWard> ok
[21:18] <angasule> anyway, someone else already gave me an answer in another channel, which doesn't look very kubuntuish, but at least it should work
[21:23] <JasonWard>  chmod u+x b.py,    is not setting the executable flag. why?
[21:30] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm running Kubuntu on a HP Pavilion dv2000.  After install the hotkeys were working just fine, but now it seems that they have stopped working... Can anyone help me out?
[21:41] <JasonWard> is the irc for python. #Python  or #python
[21:42] <kamesh> Hi all, I have both Windows vista (occupying around 140 GB) and Kubuntu (around 10 GB) on my haddisk. 1) I would like to increase my kubuntu linux partition to something like 20 GB. 2) I would also like to have some extra 10 GB to test various linux based distro. Can any let me know how I can go about doing this without harming my windows partition.
[21:43] <JasonWard> Hi. why does it tell me that I need to be identified to join #Python ?
[21:43] <DFlame> I'd say use the GParted live CD to resize the partitions but I'm sor sure if it will resize a vista partiton
[21:44] <unix_infidel> JasonWard: because it just makes sense that you should register your nick if you're going to be active on freenode.
[21:44] <unix_infidel> it takes literally 2 seconds.
[21:46] <JasonWard> ah ok
[21:46] <kamesh> DFlame @ Thanks a lot for the suggestion. I will take a look at it.
[21:46] <JasonWard> how do I register?
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> !register | JasonWard
[21:47] <ubotu> JasonWard: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[21:47] <JasonWard>  !register | JasonWard
[21:49] <Nyad> ubotu: a
[21:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:49] <Nyad> how do I open a private with ubotu?
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Nyad: /msg ubotu Hello!
[21:53] <vit> hola
[21:54] <vit> hello
[21:55] <vit> heloo erica
[21:57] <Nyad> !register | JasonWard
[21:57] <ubotu> JasonWard: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[21:59] <Neo5967> !seen gabona
[21:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen gabona - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <georgeb> what's the latest method to test kde4 on gutsy ? I just install kde4* from the regular gutsy repos; or should I add some kde4 specific repos ?
[22:12] <imagandi> when i start an mp3 the amarok wants to download a plugin for mp3 support when its done says to restart the amarok
[22:12] <imagandi> but there is no changes when i do that
[22:12] <imagandi> there is still no mp3 support
[22:13] <emilsedgh> !mp3 | imagandi
[22:13] <ubotu> imagandi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:14] <andycr> I'm trying to use kubuntu 8.04 (actually, Ubuntu 8.04 with kubuntu-kde4-desktop installed), and everything works but the desktop effects built into kwin are very choppy. The video drivers are set up perfectly.
[22:15] <emilsedgh> andycr: ask in #kubuntu-kde, but i think you have to change some options in you xorg config file
[22:15] <andycr> emilsedgh: thanks
[22:15] <andycr> channel's almost empty, but
[22:17] <imagandi> thanx
[22:18] <imagandi> but when i type  kubuntu-restricted-extras in the adept installer
[22:18] <imagandi> he find nothing
[22:22] <carlzenox> any one know php?
[22:22] <emilsedgh> carlzenox: its a little bit offtopic here, but i would be happy if i could help
[22:23] <carlzenox> k
[22:23] <carlzenox> umm with STDIN how can i use if with it?
[22:24] <carlzenox> emiilsedgh: goto #jjk please
[22:25] <euskedai> i can't use port 631!!!!!
[22:26] <lazarus> does ubuntu need anti virus?
[22:27] <motya> linux does not
[22:27] <andycr> lazarus: For itself? No.
[22:27] <motya> homestation doesnt need it
[22:28] <lazarus> i am a new user to ubuntu linux
[22:28] <andycr> If it's an email server or something, maybe, but only to detect viruses sent to Windows machines
[22:28] <andycr> Ah, welcome :) No, for a desktop machine there's no need, there aren't any real viruses
[22:28] <motya> non-root account is enough to be secure
[22:28] <lazarus> any tips
[22:29] <andycr> lazarus: Depends on what you're having trouble with
[22:29] <ERICA> lanegra_556j@hotmail.com
[22:30] <lazarus> no trouble just need an overview
[22:31] <lazarus> i installed KDE because it help me do things easy
[22:31] <harmental_> hey guys..is there any way to retrieve files deleted with krusader??? any hidden directory maybe?
[22:32] <Dragnslcr> lazarus- don't run executables that come from email or web sites that you don't completely trust, and you should be fine
[22:32] <motya> no, just dont run them with root
[22:32] <lazarus> i used to be / still am a windows user
[22:33] <lazarus> dualboot
[22:33] <motya> so what are you looking for?
[22:33] <motya> go to windows heh
[22:33] <andycr> motya: Why not be nice?
[22:33] <Dragnslcr> motya- it doesn't take root access to delete everything out of your home directory
[22:33] <motya> yeah :)
[22:33] <carlzenox> can i use C++ on kubuntu?
[22:34] <motya> wow
[22:34] <motya> this question rox!
[22:34] <motya> :D
[22:34] <lazarus> how do i coustomize ubuntu
[22:34] <Dragnslcr> carlzenox- sure, gcc/g++ works fine
[22:34] <motya> KDE written in C++
[22:34] <carlzenox> k
[22:34] <andycr> carlzenox: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:34] <Dragnslcr> !themes | lazarus
[22:34] <ubotu> lazarus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:34] <motya> wtf?
[22:35] <lazarus> i am consfused with how to install themes due to the terminal thing
[22:36] <Dragnslcr> !changethemes
[22:36] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[22:36] <andycr> lazarus: On Gnome themes are drag and drop. On KDE, they are a bit less forgiving.
[22:36] <andycr> Your best bet is to find .deb files of the themes you want
[22:36] <lazarus> i have gome/kde installed
[22:37] <andycr> lazarus: Yes, but gnome themes will only work on gnome, and you said you are using kde now
[22:38] <lazarus> where can i find .deb themes only
[22:38] <motya> nowhere
[22:38] <andycr> lazarus: I would search kde-look for deb
[22:38] <motya> its really dumb
[22:38] <motya> use kcontrol
[22:38] <andycr> motya: ?
[22:38] <lazarus> what is xubuntu
[22:38] <motya> there u can find "install new themes"
[22:38] <andycr> lazarus: Ubuntu with XFCE
[22:39] <motya> use downloaded tgz file from kde-look.org
[22:39] <motya> thats all
[22:39] <andycr> motya: They made a front end for compiling the theme engines?
[22:39] <motya> mope
[22:39] <motya> nope
[22:39] <motya> dunno really
[22:40] <andycr> motya: Ah, I assumed he meant widget themes, maybe he meant icon themes
[22:40] <lazarus> XFCE? sorry complete noob
[22:40] <motya> What?
[22:40] <carlzenox> so the g++ thing just save my files as .cpp?
[22:40] <andycr> lazarus: Don't worry about it, XFCE is mostly just for old computers
[22:41] <andycr> carlzenox: I think you're looking for an IDE. GCC is just a compiler - what turns your code into machine code.
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> carlzenox- if you're looking for a full IDE, KDevelop is pretty good
[22:41] <carlzenox> k
[22:42] <andycr> KDevelop is good, and Eclipse is, in my opinion, excellent
[22:42] <lazarus> how do i install beryl
[22:42] <dvoid> im having a problem with samba , i tried to share a directory, and when i try to browse it with konqueror it says "the file or folder smb://192.168.0.7/things does not exist." but i can see the share when browsning shares, but i cant browse the share itself. i have cheked for permissions etc and cant find anything wrong, any ideas?
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> You don't
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> Beryl has been merged back into Compiz
[22:42] <andycr> lazarus: Beryl is ancient, the new desktop effects program is compiz-fusion and is installed by default.
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> Not in Kubuntu it isn't
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> It's only installed by default in Ubuntu
[22:43] <lazarus> on KDE? aswell
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> Compiz doesn't always work perfectly with KDE
[22:43] <andycr> Dragnslcr: I thought he said he started with Ubuntu and installed KDE manually, maybe I misunderstood
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> Oh, maybe
[22:43] <Dragnslcr> I missed that part
[22:43] <lazarus> yes i did
[22:44] <andycr> lazarus: The system you're running right now - did you install Ubuntu with gnome then set KDE up, or did you install Kubuntu?
[22:44] <andycr> Ah
[22:44] <andycr> Ok, in that case
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> So yeah, Compiz is probably already installed
[22:44] <andycr> Yeah
[22:44] <andycr> There's a compatibility package
[22:44] <carlzenox> omg this is gona be gay
[22:44] <andycr> Which makes compiz work better with KDE
[22:44] <carlzenox> do i have to re learn C++ for linux?
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> carlzenox- huh?
[22:45] <andycr> carlzenox: We don't even know what program you used on your previous operating system
[22:45] <carlzenox> windows O.o
[22:45] <andycr> lazarus: Install "compiz-kde"
[22:45] <andycr> carlzenox: No, I mean the program you used to do C++ work
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> carlzenox- the language itself is the same on any operating system, only some functions may or may not be available
[22:45] <carlzenox> Dev-C++
[22:45] <lazarus> via terminal
[22:45] <andycr> lazarus: Either that or with synaptic
[22:46] <andycr> "sudo apt-get install compiz-kde" or synaptic->compiz-kde->install
[22:46] <andycr> carlzenox: The language is exactly the same
[22:46] <carlzenox> i dont thing int main() works
[22:47] <Dragnslcr> I don't know why it wouldn't
[22:47] <andycr> carlzenox: It does.
[22:47] <andycr> try
[22:47] <andycr> Adding "int main() { return 0; }" to a file
[22:47] <andycr> Then g++ (the file you saved) -o programname
[22:47] <andycr> then ./programname
[22:47] <andycr> Will get you the most basic setup possible
[22:48] <carlzenox>  undefined reference to `main'
[22:48] <we6jbo> hi
[22:48] <cannon> hi
[22:48] <andycr> carlzenox: Please paste your code at pastebin.ca
[22:48] <andycr> Then link us to it
[22:48] <andycr> It's probably a minor mistake
[22:48] <we6jbo> What package do I need to install a NIS client on this machine?
[22:49] <andycr> lazarus: After that completes you should be able to start compiz with "compiz --replace"
[22:49] <carlzenox> http://pastebin.ca/950942
[22:49] <andycr> Assuming your card is set up
[22:50] <andycr> carlzenox: The code is fine, can you explain how you're trying to compile it?
[22:50] <andycr> (IE what you're typing into the terminal to compile it)
[22:51] <carlzenox> in terminal g++ lol -o test
[22:51] <nick_> how to install xgl
[22:51] <andycr> and your c++ file is called "lol"? that's the right file?
[22:51] <carlzenox> ya :p
[22:52] <andycr> you may try adding .cpp to the end of the name both of the file and in the command
[22:52] <andycr> It may use that to determine the file type. I doubt it, but it's worth a try
[22:52] <lazarus> i think it messed up
[22:52] <andycr> lazarus: ?
[22:53] <andycr> carlzenox: Yes, I get an error when I don't use a file extension of .cpp, so try that
[22:53] <lazarus> now i have no x in theto close my apps with lol tio right corner
[22:53] <andycr> lazarus: Hmm. That could be one of two things.
[22:54] <lazarus> damn touch pad mouse
[22:54] <andycr> Can you move the windows if you hold down alt and drag over any part of them?
[22:54] <Daisuke_Ido> lazarus, compiz?
[22:54] <carlzenox> andycr: it makes the executable fiile but it wont open when i click it
[22:54] <Daisuke_Ido> emerald --replace
[22:55] <andycr> carlzenox: It's opening, but you can't see what it's doing because it's a console program
[22:55] <lazarus> nope
[22:55] <andycr> carlzenox: You need to go into the terminal you compiled it with (or one in the same folder) and type:
[22:55] <andycr> ./programname
[22:55] <andycr> (programname replaced with the name of your program)
[22:55] <andycr> that runs it
[22:56] <andycr> you should see the output in the terminal you use
[22:56] <carlzenox> you get 1 free rape token :D
[22:56] <andycr> carlzenox: What are you talking about?
[22:56] <carlzenox> in other words ty :p
[22:56] <andycr> whatever
[22:57] <carlzenox> :(
[22:57] <andycr> (Did they start advertising Linux in counter-strike?)
[22:58] <MinusSeven> Windows Vista's first Service Pack, makes it worse than before
[22:58] <MinusSeven> Microsoft is finished
[22:59] <andycr> MinusSeven: I doubt that. They have enough money to not be finished for years
[22:59] <MinusSeven> Why can't they produce quality?
[23:00] <andycr> MinusSeven: I don't normally engage in Microsoft-bashing, but I'm not sure why they are having so much trouble with Vista.
[23:00] <andycr> Something is very wrong with it.
[23:00] <Orfeous> hi!
[23:00] <Orfeous> are there any application like Dreamweaver in Windows? for ubuntu?
[23:00] <andycr> Orfeous: I would try NVU
[23:00] <andycr> It's not quite the same, but similar
[23:01] <andycr> Though the last time I used dreamweaver was around 10 years ago, so who knows if I remember it correctly
[23:01] <Orfeous> html editor
[23:01] <andycr> Ah, that's what I thought
[23:01] <andycr> Yeah, try Nvu
[23:01] <andycr> http://nvu.com/
[23:02] <andycr> I think its in repositories
[23:02] <andycr> Should be able to apt-get install nvu
[23:02] <lazarus> removing KDE
[23:03] <andycr> lazarus: ?
[23:03] <lazarus> messed up real bad
[23:03] <andycr> Ah
[23:04] <Orfeous> hmm..
[23:04] <lazarus> log into gonme(spelling)
[23:04] <Orfeous> seems like "kompozer" is the new package
[23:04] <Orfeous> and nvu is just an "transition"
[23:06] <LjL-Temp> !test
[23:06] <Orfeous> seems to be problems with configuring "python-wxgtk2.8" and "python-wxtools"
[23:06] <ubotu> Failed.
[23:07] <Orfeous> python-wxtools depends on python-wxgtk2.8
[23:07] <Orfeous> but havent been configured yet
[23:07] <Orfeous> what to do= :)
[23:07] <Erickj92> i get the error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:07] <Orfeous> pycentral: pycentral pkginstall: error byte-compiling files (398)
[23:07] <Orfeous> pycentral pkginstall: error byte-compiling files (398)
[23:07] <Erickj92> what is going on?
[23:10] <Erickj92> my KDE4 packages are borken.
[23:11] <motya> so woweegonnadu?
[23:11] <Erickj92> why are the KDE4 packages broken?
[23:11] <motya> dunno
[23:12] <Erickj92> please someone?
[23:15] <BluesKaj> Erickj92, KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:15] <Jucato> Erickj92: please try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:25] <ahmos> hi, can any body tell me why after installing some programmes i don't find an icon for it in the k menu and every time i must run it from terminal,and when i close trminal the programme is closed too?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:27] <Daisuke_Ido> first thing, one exclamation point is more than enough
[23:28] <ahmos> :D
[23:28] <Daisuke_Ido> second, what programs, and are you installing them through adept?
[23:29] <ahmos> alot,but for example xpenguins
[23:33] <ahmos> Daisuke_Ido: where r u?
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> you haven't answered the question -_-
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> are you installing from the repos?
[23:34] <ahmos> i have (alot,but for example xpenguins)
[23:34] <ahmos> yes
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> well, is there an "other" or "lost and found" in your kmenu?
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i ask because i've given up on kde until 4 stops being horrible :)
[23:35] <ahmos> no
[23:36] <Jucato> ahmos: press Alt+F2, and run "kbuildsycoca" then check the menu if some of those were added to the menu
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> hey, nice :)
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i actually didn't know about that
[23:36] <Jucato> 1. Some programs do not really get added to the menu (like command line stuff, maybe some games).
[23:37] <Jucato> 2. You might be able to find some apps that can be added to the menu by running "kappfinder" and checking those that you want to add automatically
[23:37] <Jucato> 3. Worst case scenario, you can add a menu entry for the app yourself, although if it's a command line app, that will be a bit useless
[23:38] <ahmos> aha.but kbuildsycoca didn't work
[23:39] <ahmos> i can't find kmail to in my k menu
[23:39] <ahmos> i must start it with terminal
[23:39] <Jucato> aah Kubuntu removed that because you can find KMail in Kontact
[23:40] <Jucato> you don't need to start it from the terminal. you can run it from Kontact, or press Alt+F2 and run it from there
[23:40] <ahmos> ah u r right :)
[23:41] <maroo> hello, is there a way to browse the itunes store (for podcasts/free non drm music etc) and/or access those phobos urls?
[23:42] <Netusurfer> Hello to everybody. Has anyone of you gotten to work the TV features of an ATI ALL IN WONDER 9600 card under ubuntu 7.10?
[23:43] <ahmos> ok thank's alot you all..for your time
[23:43] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: just wondering, why not stick to KDE 3.5.x until that day you're waiting for KDE 4?
[23:45] <root> can someone help. I can't install konqueror. It's becomes broken all the time.  the error is kio-wrapper something
[23:48] <root> what room is kde4
[23:48] <Dragnslcr> !kde4
[23:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:48] <root> thx
[23:48] <carlzenox> ddoes kubuntu play .mp3's ?
[23:48] <posingaspopular> yes
[23:48] <posingaspopular> yes carlzenox i should say
[23:48] <carlzenox> it wont
[23:48] <carlzenox> tho
[23:48] <motya> linux play everything
[23:49] <motya> *plays
[23:49] <Jucato> carlzenox: install libxine1-ffmpeg (MP3 and AVI codec)
[23:49] <carlzenox> it just goes through all the songs each song like 2 seconds with no output
[23:49] <posingaspopular> carlzenox: do you have the proper codecs installs
[23:49] <carlzenox> E: Couldn't find package libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:50] <motya> not bad
[23:50] <Jucato> then you don't have the codecs. can you try installing "kubuntu-restricted-extras"?
[23:51] <carlzenox> type "kubuntu-restricted-extras" in terminal?
[23:51] <Jucato> no, that's the name of the package