[00:15] mpt: if you haven't received the confirmation yet, then it isn't coming. [00:15] mpt: perhaps try registering the key again [00:42] * mpt wonders what should return [00:42] A table of the number of open bug reports in each distribution? :-) [00:42] A 404? [00:44] mpt: thta might be good, yeah [00:45] seems like bugs.lp just mirrors lp for that uRL [00:45] yeah [00:50] damn. why must it be thursday? [00:55] I wish it was Tuesday [00:56] yeah, tuesday would be nice. i'd settle for wednesday, too [00:56] Hobbsee, did matsubara (or anyone) tell you that the xmlrpc.lp.internal bug has been fixed? [00:57] oh, nm, poolie did [00:57] bug 199168 [00:57] Launchpad bug 199168 in launchpad "New mailing list notification has wrong subscription url" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199168 - Assigned to Maris Fogels (mars) [00:58] mpt: no, but thanks === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [01:05] kiko-zzz, if you're still awake, can you explain your comment in bug 203993? [01:05] Launchpad bug 203993 in malone "Link bugs in ubuntu packages to the actual project" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203993 [01:06] Are those packaging links incorrect? [01:06] mpt, that package was never published in breezy [01:06] ok, but I'm not sure what that has to do with the bug [01:07] The report doesn't mention breezy. [01:07] I think he commented on an old bug at the same time, questioning this [01:07] ah yes [01:07] I saw that [01:08] so we really need a separate bug report covering this issue [01:08] oh wow [01:08] so, i wonder if there's a way now to get bugmail sent to a different address than the contact address [01:09] * Hobbsee sighs [01:10] you have to confirm an email address first before you can remove it. why? [01:10] Hobbsee, no you don't [01:10] I removed an unconfirmed address yesterday [01:10] but the catch is [01:10] you can't do it by pressing Enter [01:10] mpt: where from? is this buypassing the 404? [01:10] You have to click "Remove" with a pointing device, or tab to the button [01:10] oh, there we are. an oops [01:10] evil evil bug [01:10] i did [01:10] mpt: you can probably click enter after selecting the right button. [01:11] OOPS-810EA8 for attempting to use the confirm link by email, after trying to remove an address [01:11] That might be true in Gecko [01:11] after bypassing the 404 that no one cares enough to fix. [01:11] Is it reported? [01:11] hitting enter on a non-submit form element either submits the first button or no buttons [01:11] can't remember which [01:12] mpt: months ago. [01:12] * Hobbsee scratches head. [01:13] jamesh, no buttons in IE and Netscape 4-and-earlier; first button in Mozilla and (iirc) Webkit [01:13] (I complained about the Mozilla behavior when it was implemented, because it crufted up URLs, but to no avail) [01:14] so, on one page, the list email is used as the contact address, yet it says "don't subscribe" on +editemails. then again, it appears that by that page, you could subscribe the lists.launchpad.net email to the lists.launchpad.net mailing list, as it's a confirmed address. [01:14] (they needed to fire "onclick" for the first submit button for IE compatibility, but didn't have the sophistication IE had to do that *without* adding the button to the URL) [01:14] * Hobbsee shakes head, and hopes it sorts itself out into something sensible in the next 6 months, and that the 404 gets fixed. [01:15] Hobbsee, sorry, I don't understand any of that [01:15] Is what you've just described part of the 404 issue, or is it a separate issue? [01:16] mpt: if you bypass the 404 (type in manually what it's supposed to be), it'll then let you subscribe to a team list with any of the approved contact addresses, which includes the newly-generated list address. [01:16] i guess it's correct in saying that none of the team addresses are currently subscribed to the team mailing list, though. [01:16] So you can't subscribe to a mailing list without hacking the URL? [01:17] That doesn't sound right [01:17] you can't remove email addresses from teams without hacking the URL. [01:17] (at all) [01:17] Teams have e-mail addresses?? [01:17] the same thing is implemented in 2 places. [01:17] yes, so it doesn't spam all members. [01:17] well, close to the same. [01:17] oh, right [01:18] Can you point me to the bug reports about this? [01:18] mpt: find a team that you're an admin of, play around with it, particularly the "change contact address" and "manage emails". [01:18] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/174453 [01:18] Launchpad bug 174453 in launchpad "Manage Addresses on a team page is a 404" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) [01:18] was the 404 [01:19] i haven't bothered filing the mailing list one, as i've only recently gotten the mailing list. [01:19] and really, seeing one of the contact bugs fixed first (particularly as it's a fairly prominent 404) would be nice, before wasting time reporting anymore. [01:19] well, please do [01:19] citing specific URLs and section headings [01:20] * mpt goes for lunch and hopes Launchpad is faster when he returns [01:21] OOPS-810EA10 is what you get when you try to subscribe a launchpad list to itself. [01:25] mpt: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/204100 [01:25] Launchpad bug 204100 in launchpad "It is possible to subscribe a mailing list to itself from +editemails" [Undecided,New] [01:31] New bug: #204098 in launchpad "Should display project activity status to users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204098 [01:36] New bug: #204100 in launchpad "It is possible to subscribe a mailing list to itself from +editemails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204100 [01:39] thanks [01:40] crap. why have i not done *any* uni work this morning? [02:30] Hobbsee: Because hanging around on IRC is much more rewarding. === superm1 is now known as Daviey_ === Daviey_ is now known as superm1 [03:05] New bug: #204117 in launchpad "Project page features packaging links without hinting that they're changeable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204117 [03:11] New bug: #204119 in launchpad "Non-existent distribution series source package shouldn't have upstream links" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204119 [03:36] New bug: #204121 in launchpad "Redundant (and Delete-less) "Upstream links" pages for a source package in every distribution series" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204121 [03:42] is there a way to clone a bug? [03:51] jetsaredim: Why? [03:52] if I was filing a couple bugs against the same component with similar details [04:04] I don't think there is, I'm afraid. [04:36] New bug: #172392 in launchpad-bazaar "interrupting a client waiting for a lock over bzr+ssh leaves process on server" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172392 === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:09] RAOF: yeah, well. [09:55] New bug: #204180 in blueprint "Incorrect functioning of Information request button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204180 [10:18] Is there a way I can send out a mass email to a team other than making a bug and subscribing them to it? [10:43] YokoZar: No. [10:44] (other than assigning a blueprint to them, but that's even worse) === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [12:09] So, timlinux, what was your question? [12:10] Hi. Can anyone help to explain the logic behind this? : Rejected: [12:10] libopenmodeller_0.5.3-pre2.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 0.5.3-pre2 <= openmodeller-0.5.2-1 [12:10] just the _ vs - ? [12:10] openmodeller is greater than 0.5.3. [12:11] ya I was uploading 0.5.3 and it was rejected [12:11] The previous version was libopenmodeller_openmodeller-0.5.2-1, wasn't it? [12:11] ya [12:11] Right, so that behaviour is correct. [12:11] dput timlinux-ppa libopenmodeller_0.5.3-pre2_source.changes [12:11] that's what I did [12:11] It's what you did earlier that is the problem. [12:12] is it because its _0.5.3 instead of 0-.5.3 ? [12:12] oh? [12:12] _ is just the separator between package name and version. [12:12] If you look on https://edge.launchpad.net/~timlinux/+archive, you'll see the current version of libopenmodeller is in deed openmodeller-0.5.2-1. I presume you intended 0.5.2-1. [12:13] s/in /in/ [12:13] yes [12:13] Im still not 'getting it' [12:13] Alphabetical characters are greater than digits. [12:14] I thought - created a separator [12:14] from the version no [12:15] - is a separator within the version number. === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:29] Fujitsu: what Id ideally like to do is put two versions of my package online - and have one tagged stable and one experimental [12:29] how do I go about doing that? [12:30] New bug: #204226 in shipit "typos in Kubuntu and Edubuntu shipit pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204226 [12:31] timlinux: Not easily. You'd really need a second PPA. [12:31] Or you could rename one of the packages. [12:31] Fujitsu: to be honest I didn't really understand you above but someone came to the door in the middle of it too which didn't help [12:31] hmm: https://launchpad.net/~openismus-team/+archive says gnome-lirc-properties - 0.2.5rc2-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [12:32] "If you look on https://edge.launchpad.net/~timlinux/+archive, you'll see the current version of libopenmodeller is in deed openmodeller-0.5.2-1. I presume you intended 0.5.2-1." [12:32] but http://ppa.launchpad.net/openismus-team/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages only lists 0.2.5.rc1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [12:32] that part I didn't understand [12:32] guess i am just inpatient? [12:33] ah, yes: the timestamps suggest that the pools is updated every 20 mins [12:33] (http://ppa.launchpad.net/openismus-team/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-lirc-properties/) [12:33] tbf: Every 20 minutes, correct. [12:33] timlinux: Your last successful upload of libopenmodeller had a very strange version number. [12:34] Fujitsu: how do you suggest to number? [12:34] I was intending 0.5.2 version [12:34] and package version 1 [12:34] timlinux: Why was there the openmodeller bit in there, though? [12:35] The versioning is otherwise not too bad. [12:35] oh [12:35] how do I get openmodeller to be separate from version no? [12:35] Don't put it in the changelog. [12:35] What did you want openmoddeler to be there for? [12:36] ah I see looking at the other packages in my ppa they don't have that repeated package name in the package no [12:36] Correct. [12:36] Fujitsu: I didnt (Im a packaging noob) [12:36] You'd be best of deleting it, waiting the requisite 24 or so hours, and being more careful with versioning in future. [12:36] Only in PPA can you delete things to revert versions. [12:37] * timlinux goes to look at the changelog to see what he did wrong [12:37] brb [12:38] Fujitsu: ok so if I understand this correctly, when I made the 0.5.2 package I must have done dch -v openmodeller-0.5.2-1 instead of dch -v 0.5.2-1 ? [12:39] timlinux: Or modified it in the changelog later, yes. [12:41] ok [12:41] and there is no problem with me creating two ppa's? [12:42] Unfortunately it is designed such that each user can only have one. [12:42] ah [12:42] I disagree with this strongly, but the Launchpad must have had their reasons. [12:42] The recommended solution is to create a team. [12:42] Which seems like an utter hack. [12:43] hehe [12:43] something else I'd like to know is if there is a way to get my packages into mainstream ubuntu repos [12:44] e.g. at the moment the QGIS package in ubuntu is quite old [12:44] I think that was on my merge list, actually. [12:44] But I never got around to it :( [12:45] Debian ignored a patch I sent them, which caused some problems, IIRC. [12:45] I was hoping to do like : upload to my PPA, wait a little to make sure there are no issues and then try to get it into mainstream ubuntu [12:45] ah [12:46] * timlinux is also wishing gdal 1.5 could make it into heron [12:46] Debian has 0.9.1. We'll get that fairly soon after Hardy is released. [12:46] Fujitsu: ok great [12:47] We're well past FeatureFreeze, so gdal is very, very unlikely to be upgraded. [12:47] * Fujitsu heads off to bed. [12:47] ah [12:48] Fujitsu: many thanks for your help [12:49] timlinux: No problem. === \sh is now known as \sh_away [13:23] Greetings - I am looking for a way to design and manage a testing process in Launchpad. I thought Blueprints were a good way to track project requirements, but I am not sure how to map that to a testcase that would then pass or fail resulting in a defect ticket. All of this would need to be tracked back to the requirement/blueprint. Is this possible? [13:24] cgregan, well, blueprints are in general larger pieces of work [13:24] cgregan, defect tickets sound more like bugs to me === \sh_away is now known as \sh [13:25] kiko: correct...bugs [13:26] cgregan, are you looking to store itemized requirements (i.e. requirement 1, etc)? [13:26] kiko: I will give you an example [13:27] kiko: Say I have a requirement for a mobile device to support JPEG encoding.....I enter that somewhere under the project name [13:27] kiko: then I write three test cases to exercise that requirement [13:28] kiko: one case fails, and I enter a bug. That bug would need to track back to the original requirement to ensure that all requirements were tested and passed at the end of the project. [13:28] cgregan, you can do all that with launchpad, sure [13:28] Excellent! [13:28] I'd probably model the requirement as a blueprint, have the test cases inside the document, and link bugs to the blueprint as they are filed. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:38] <\sh> hmm...is it somehow possible to filter bugs from other distros != ubuntu by default? (e.g. from related bugs on your personal bug lp page) [14:38] \sh: yes, but you have to use bugs.lp.net/ubuntu/ then use an advanced search. [14:38] that's been implemented since a few months after uds sevilla [14:38] is there any stats facility for PPA's? It would be really great to know how many people have downloaded packages from my PPA [14:39] timlinux: not currently. [14:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: well, I would like to set a default somehow..but I see, that this is not possible right now [14:39] \sh: bookmarks work well. [14:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: yeah. [15:33] Is there currently an issue with PPA's? I get this : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12762363/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.qgis_0.9.1-2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz when trying to upload my package === Rinchen` is now known as Rinchen [15:35] s/upload/build/ I suppose. [15:36] timlinux: retry the build, the primary ubuntu archive was being modified by the time your build was trying to access it. [15:36] timlinux: let me know if the problem persists. [15:56] New bug: #204310 in launchpad "bug comments are not numbered" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204310 === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [16:31] hi [16:32] how can i mark a bug as a duplicate of another bug? [16:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/165063 [16:32] Launchpad bug 165063 in kdebase "Logout crash in Kubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Kubuntu Team (kubuntu-team) [16:34] cprov: ok thanks [16:35] timlinux: np [16:45] cprov when I try to resubmit I get : [cpp] dput qgis-ppa qgis_0.9.1-2_source.changes Already uploaded to ppa.launchpad.net Doing nothing for qgis_0.9.1-2_source.changes [16:49] timlinux: you don't need to re-upload the source. You can simply retry the build. [16:49] timlinux: let me guide you, what's your ppa url ? [16:50] cprov: sorry Im a noob - now I deleted the source because I thought It was blocking [16:50] the rebuild [16:51] https://launchpad.net/~qgis [16:51] timlinux: uhm, it will require you to bumb the source version, in order to be faster ... [16:51] bumb?? [16:51] ah bump? [16:51] ok will do that [16:53] timlinux: shh, sorry, bump ... dumb fingers here :) [16:54] cprov: don't worry I got issued with the same kinda fingers :-) [16:55] timlinux: ping if the new source fails to build, okay ? [16:55] cprov: many thanks will do [16:56] I need to go out for a bit so will try a bit later [16:56] I added this channel to my gaim autojoin list [16:56] so Ill be back :-) === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [16:56] timlinux: sure, send a email to lp-users if I'm not here. [16:56] cprov: ok many thanks === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === \sh is now known as \sh_away [17:36] New bug: #204344 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS merging an already merged proposal branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204344 === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === lamont` is now known as lamont [18:00] ** Launchpad development meeting in #launchpad-meeting. ** [18:16] New bug: #204355 in malone "UnicodeDecodeError decoding email header" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204355 [18:16] New bug: #204356 in launchpad "Make it possible to pass an extra view_name argument to tales url formatter from within templates" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204356 [18:22] * tbf just realizes how the 20 minutes schedule is harmful for the build farm... [18:22] ...for minutes the build farm is idle... just to get hammered by new uploads every 20 minutes [18:23] maybe the interval should be reduced to avoid that large bulks of work... [18:23] ...and for convenience of the service's users? === Rinchen changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ || Next meeting (all welcome): Thu 27 March 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [18:46] mtg date change [19:01] hi all! as i understand default users of translation can only propose suggestion not approve it? [19:20] weird: why are there idle build hosts, when the matching build request queue is not empty? [19:23] tbf: non-virtual machine can't be used for PPAs [19:24] hi! [19:25] I heard of a new beta mailing list system in LP... [19:25] I was wondering if I could have access to it === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [21:45] New bug: #204424 in launchpad ""Working on" section shows the generic task of cojoined bug tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204424 === gryc_ is now known as gryc === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk