[01:39] <psyke83> hi kwwii, still awake?
[01:41] <psyke83> kwwii, I guess you're not, but if you read this later, I've made a few more modifications to the theme (darker menu background and fixed an Evolution bug), here's v0.14: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=63182&d=1205977145
[04:56] <DanaG> Hmm, I still like the Aurora appearance, with orange coloration.
[06:42] <mgunes> kwwii, ping
[06:53] <mgunes> does ubuntu-artwork still install Human Murrine by default or was it switched to Clearlooks?
[09:27] <kwwii> mgunes: it should now only install ubuntulooks again :-)
[11:32] <mgunes> kwwii, why exactly?
[15:59] <psyke83> kwwii, hey, I updated Human-Murrine-Mod to make the menu background darker, and fixed an Evolution bug. It's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=63182&d=1205977145
[16:00] <psyke83> kwwii, selected items in Evolution was inconsistent, see this screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=63149&d=1205960750
[16:01] <psyke83> it's fixed with the update, and I didn't find any regressions
[16:11] <_MMA_> psyke83: Since you seem to like to hack on gtkrc. You wanna play with the Ubuntu Studio one? I'm sure there's an issue or 2.
[16:12] <psyke83> _MMA_, I'll take a look, but are there specific issues you're aware of?
[16:12] <kwwii> psyke83: killer, thanks
[16:14] <_MMA_> psyke83: Mostly some text issues with some apps. Might just come down to them not using GTK correctly.
[16:15] <psyke83> _MMA_, do you want it to be compatible with the Color Picker?
[16:15] <_MMA_> http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Misc/UbuntuStudio-Hardy.tar.gz
[16:16] <_MMA_> Sure. If you know how to add it.
[16:18] <_MMA_> psyke83: After Hardy I had planned on also updating the theme to the newer Murrine layout. It's gonna take some work. It has to keep the same look.
[16:18] <psyke83> what do you mean by "new" Murrine layout?
[16:21] <_MMA_> Well Im still hard defining all the colors.
[16:22] <_MMA_> there's all that @ stuff at the top now and such.
[16:22] <_MMA_> Where it defined a shade of one color and such.
[16:22] <_MMA_> *defines
[16:25] <psyke83> _MMA_, I'm going to re-base your theme from Human-Murrine(-Mod), and modify the colours and tweak other settings (e.g. menu stripe), and we'll see how it works
[16:25] <psyke83> that will make it Color Picker compatible
[16:26] <psyke83> I noticed the Fast User Switching applet doesn't look right with your theme
[16:38] <_MMA_> psyke83: You have to be careful with that. I have settings that aren't in Human-Murrine that are very necessary.
[16:39] <psyke83> _MMA_, I'm checking it thoroughly, don't worry
[16:39] <_MMA_> k
[16:40] <psyke83> it's already 85% identical, I just need to apply your specific tweaks
[16:41] <_MMA_> I originally made Human-Murrine for Ken. :P
[16:45] <psyke83> :)
[16:45] <psyke83> my modification was based off Human-Clearlooks, though
[16:56] <kwwii> _MMA_ rocks!
[16:59] <_MMA_> kwwii: Your socks right off. ;)
[17:02] <kwwii> I could hear a lead riff playing in my mind when I said that (so it was like _MMA_ rocks! Deedeleedeedeleedee)
[17:02] <kwwii> :p
[17:02] <_MMA_> \m/
[17:03] <_MMA_> kwwii: Got my passport today. Should be all set for Prague.
[17:11] <kwwii> _MMA_: excellent :-)
[17:23] <psyke83> _MMA_, nearly done, but I'm reluctant to emulate something in your theme
[17:25] <psyke83> _MMA_, look at the ghosted buttons: http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/UbuntuStudio2.png
[17:26] <psyke83> do you not think this is better than having a dark backgroun with white text (your theme)?
[17:26] <psyke83> my way seems more subtle and less prominent
[17:27] <_MMA_> This is why I mentioned to be careful. I believe there is a fix in my theme for that. Here's a TWF screenshot. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialHardy?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=theme.png
[17:28] <psyke83> _MMA_, so you prefer it your way?
[17:29] <psyke83> I'm referring to button2, togglebutton2, checkbutton3,4 and radiobutton3,4
[17:30] <_MMA_> Well, if you're finished what you're doing, send it to me and I'll look over it. See what the guys think.
[17:30] <_MMA_> Use it for a couple of days.
[17:30] <psyke83> _MMA_, gimme a few more minutes, I didn't fix the radiobuttons or import the panel settings
[17:30] <_MMA_> k
[17:30] <psyke83> did you notice anything else wrong from my twf screenshot?
[17:32] <_MMA_> Buttons are more round in your shot.
[17:33] <psyke83> I still have some minor changes to make, including the menu text colour
[17:33] <psyke83> I'll reduce the roundness
[17:34] <_MMA_> sure
[17:43] <_MMA_> psyke83: Your highlight ratio also looks to be slightly higher.
[18:25] <psyke83> _MMA_, it's ready, just packing it for you now
[18:27] <_MMA_> k
[18:29] <psyke83> _MMA_, http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/UbuntuStudio-Mod_v0.1.tar.gz
[18:29] <_MMA_> got it.
[18:29] <psyke83> I only modified gtkrc and index.theme, and the panels refer to the /usr/share.. blah location, so it needs to be installed globally as usual
[18:30] <psyke83> ah, the tooltips are yellow, but you can fix that yourself (defined at the top of the gtkrc)
[18:31] <psyke83> and you need to find a nicer colour for the special nautilus widgets (open the trash folder to see)
[18:32] <psyke83> _MMA_, when you modify the theme, don't insert absolute color values, instead try to use the "mix" or "shade" functions based off the reference colours
[18:33] <_MMA_> If it gets me the color I want, sure.
[18:37] <psyke83> kwwii, are you bothered with Human-Clearlooks any more, by the way?
[19:15] <kwwii> psyke83: not too much, no
[19:15] <psyke83> ok
[19:27] <psyke83> kwwii, I'm creating Human-Mod now, it's easier than I imagined to make it almost exactly the same
[19:27] <psyke83> I'll show you some results later to give you an idea
[20:28] <kwwii> psyke83: cool
[20:34] <psyke83> kwwii, a tiny bugfix to make GtkCombo menu items use black text: http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/Human-Murrine-Mod_v0.15.tar.gz
[20:34] <psyke83> kwwii, and Human-Mod (seems identical, except is not Color Picker compatible): http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/Human-Mod_v0.1.tar.gz
[20:35] <psyke83> *not=now
[21:12] <kwwii> psyke83: killer, I'll look into that
[21:23] <psyke83> _MMA_, were there any problems with the UbuntuStudio mod?
[21:31] <_MMA_> psyke83: Sorry man. I have alot going on here today and plan on going through it tomorrow.
[21:32] <psyke83> not a prob
[23:00] <kwwii> psyke83: your human mod is really close
[23:00] <kwwii> the one thing that I miss is a bit of saturation on the active overlay part
[23:00] <kwwii> lol