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pwnguinso i guess it's getting close to hug day09:41
james_wpwnguin: wrong, it is hug day! :-)09:42
* james_w hugs pwnguin 09:42
pwnguinwell, ive got this pet bug09:43
pwnguinI have a built-in card reader in my laptop. It's a TI model, it worked in edgy with the sdhci module, but in feisty and gutsy, it didn't work anymore, either with the sdhci drivers, or with the tifm drivers, even using the infamous "setpci hack" mentioned in bug #53923 and its duplicates to re-enable the sdhci drivers. In some feisty pre-release, it worked out-of-the-box on the live cd (I can still remember my "oooh" of wonder when seeing the sd 09:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 53923 in linux-source-2.6.20 "tifm: Texas Instruments Card reader not reading SD cards" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5392309:43
pwnguinerr fail09:43
pwnguini guess one's a dup of the other09:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137686 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[hardy] [gutsy] [regression] (regression from edgy to feisty and to gutsy) tifm_sd module not working and not producing any message in logs" [Low,Triaged]09:45
pwnguinit's quite a tangle of bugs, but essentially what im looking for is to get a kernel patch in09:47
pwnguinim not sure what needs to be done for that to happen09:48
persiapwnguin: Best path is to get it adopted upstream.  If that doesn't work, create a patch against the current Ubuntu git repo, and ask in #ubuntu-kernel.09:50
pwnguinive been trying to get ahold of people's attention upstream09:52
pwnguinit's like a one line patch =/09:53
pwnguini wonder if filling with kernel.org's bugzilla would be better than posting to a mailing list09:56
james_wpwnguin: I don't know which is preferred really.10:10
pwnguinwell im not running a kernel.org kernel10:12
pwnguinit seems rather unfair to file bugs against software they're potentially not writing10:13
pwnguinsomeone at mandriva wrote the patch and went to the sdhci mailing list a few months ago, but that conversation sorta died out10:17
james_wpwnguin: have you tried the patch on Ubuntu?10:19
pwnguinothers have already10:19
pwnguinit's so hard to build out a full kernel suite anymore10:19
james_wah, sorry, I missed that comment.10:19
pwnguinive yet to figure out how to build the restricted modules package10:20
pwnguinim not even sure its nessecary for me anymore, but i'd be nice to have 3d10:20
james_wpwnguin: do you have a pointer to the mailing list discussion?10:20
pwnguini have a url :P10:21
james_wso the information the developer asked for was never provided?10:23
pwnguinseems that way10:23
pwnguin[   27.591737] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver10:23
pwnguin[   27.591740] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman10:23
pwnguin[   28.794403] sdhci: SDHCI controller found at 0000:04:0b.3 [104c:803c] (rev 0)10:23
pwnguini always have the wierdest crap in my paste buffer10:23
james_wthe fix that was proposed is a little ugly, but I agree it would be good to have it working for you.10:23
pwnguini don't see what's so ugly about it, really10:24
james_wah, it's a shame that was never followed up on.10:24
pwnguinsure, it's potentially ignoring a larger issue10:24
james_woh, it was only 2 days ago.10:24
pwnguini guess this guy checks his mail weekly10:25
james_wthe problem with those fixes is that it would probably still break for someone somewhere with slower hardware or something, so it's probably not even a complete fix.10:25
pwnguini dont think so10:25
pwnguinin this case at least10:25
james_wpwnguin: could you put all of these links in to the bug report?10:25
pwnguinthe delay is specified in ms, which should be indepenent of CPU speed10:28
pwnguinreally, i think the bigger problem at this point would be making sure it doesn't break anyone else's readers10:34
pwnguinon the other hand, mine's been broke for over a year now. it can be someone else's turn i think ^_^10:37
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pedro_everybody ready for hug day? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2008032011:21
james_wthose bug graphs that dholbach posted look cool.11:24
james_whi pedro_11:25
pedro_hello james_w11:25
pedro_hey Iulian11:25
IulianHi pedro_, james_w11:30
james_whi Iulian11:32
pedro_Iulian: hug day!12:16
pedro_the bugs are waiting for you ;-)12:16
Iulianpedro_: I'm already squashing some of them :)12:23
affluxmorning :)12:42
IulianHello afflux.12:50
affluxhi Iulian12:51
jjessefor the 5-a-day how do you get associated w/ the team for counting in hte stats section on Daniel Holbach's stat page?12:53
affluxjjesse: you can join it on https://launchpad.net/~5-a-day12:55
jjesseafflux: i'm already a part of the team, but under the stats page there is a section for lo-co teams12:55
jjessei wanty to make sure i'm associated w/ the michigan group12:55
jjessedoes that happen automatically because i'm a member of the ubuntu-michigan team?12:55
pedro_better to ask to daniel i think12:56
affluxoh, right, that section is new to me12:56
affluxjjesse: there is a file in ~/.5-a-day-data called ".teams"12:57
jjesseafflux: cool i'll take a look at that12:57
thekornjjesse, echo <your LoCo Team's LP ID> > ~/.5-a-day-team13:04
jjessethekorn: cool thanks13:04
affluxokay,did my five bugs, I'm off again.. birthday today, gotta prepare for the party :)13:06
jjesseafflux: happy birthday13:06
affluxhave fun with the bugday :)13:06
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IulianHeya bddebian :)14:17
pedro_quick reminder today is the network manager hug day : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2008032014:40
pedro_feel free to grab any bug of the list and squash it14:40
pedro_and you can also commit your work to 5-A-Day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day and get on the list of the cool people14:41
txwikingerThanks pedro_ :)14:44
sourcercitoget your bugs while they're still hot ;)14:45
pedro_or sourcercito and Iulian will squash them all14:45
james_wwe should change the heading for the number of bugs in 5-a-day to be "cool points"14:47
james_whi qense14:54
qenseoh, happy hug day everyone!14:57
pedro_happy hug day to you too qense :-)14:57
* james_w hugs qense 14:57
IulianHHD, qense :)14:58
qensethx :), you too14:59
sourcercitohowdy qense15:00
qensewow, there are loads of bugs marked of the hug day list!15:16
qensesourcercito has been quite active ;)15:16
gunashekarwill the beta release be delayed15:16
gunashekarjust two people seem to be triaging15:16
qenseI'm triaging too :)15:17
qenseI'm jsut starting15:17
persiagunashekar: Appearances can be deceiving :)15:17
* sourcercito on caffeine15:17
gunashekargood qence15:17
gunashekari agree persia15:17
qenseand there are other types of bugs outside nwm15:17
gunashekaryes quite a lot of them15:18
IulianThere are only few bugs left. Go and squash/hug/eat! :)15:23
qenseI just discovered Tweeter Tools went mad at my blog!15:24
qenseit posted 10 times what I've done yesterday15:24
pedro_qense: are you on pulseofubuntu ?15:25
ArtimusIs there anything I would do with a bug that can "draw more attention to it"?  It's been as Status: New for almost a month.  The bug is easy to resolve (a package needs to be added as a dependency).  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/19588015:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 195880 in ubuntu-meta "ubuntu-standard doesn't depend on libpam-foreground" [Undecided,New]15:35
qenseIs network-manager an Ubuntu product?15:36
qenseor GNOME15:36
qenseor maybe freedesktop15:36
pedro_upstream is GNOME15:36
qenseArimus: you could ask here ;)15:36
qenseok, thx pedro_15:36
pedro_you're welcome15:36
Artimusqense: Fair enough15:36
qenseI'm looking at it in a few secs15:37
qensegoing to look*15:37
qenseit's a dependency problem in my eyes15:39
qenseI think it can be confirmed and get the tag unmentdeps15:39
ArtimusI was playing with KSystemlog.  "Let's see what's in auth.log.  That's ugly"15:40
qenseArtimus: are you the triager or reporter?15:47
qensewhere are the hugday-tools?15:47
Artimusqense: Triager, assuming I don't need any particular status to do that.15:48
Artimus"Jared" would be me on that report15:49
qenseI think you can set the bug to triaged and give it the tag unmetdeps15:49
ArtimusI'm really not familiar enough with PAM to know which package it should depend on15:49
ArtimusAnother user suggested libpam-runtime15:49
qensethe fact is that ubuntu-standard should install a package, if I've read the report good, but it doesn't15:49
ArtimusI really don't think ubuntu-standard is the right package...15:50
qensemaybe he means that foreground should depend on runtime15:50
qensethat is also an option15:50
qenseyou could ask about that in #ubuntu-devel15:50
qensethekorn: how do you mark a bug using hugday-tools? I forgot15:54
thekornqense, ./hugday close 12345 123434515:55
thekornfor the current hugday15:55
qenseI've got some kind of bug15:56
qensewhen you run hugday init for the second time you get this:15:57
qenseA config file already exists in '%s'.15:57
qenseI think %s should be replaced with something15:57
thekornyes, changing it now15:57
thekornqense, fix pushed, thanks for pointing this out16:03
qenseDoes bug 202605 contain enough information? If not, what's needed?16:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 202605 in network-manager-applet "Network Manager Applet Has Trouble With Static IP Address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20260516:14
qenseanyway, I've got to go, bye16:28
alfrediwhat can i do to help in reference to this possible bug?17:19
alfredSetting up mayavi (1.5-4) ...17:20
alfred/var/lib/dpkg/info/mayavi.postinst: 40: /usr/bin/python2.4: not found17:20
alfreddpkg: error processing mayavi (--configure):17:20
alfred subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12717:20
alfredErrors were encountered while processing:17:20
alfred mayavi17:20
james_walfred: have you reported it against mayavi?17:27
alfredits already reported17:32
alfredi guess.. im kind of new17:33
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james_wcould a bugsquad member please set the importance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git-core/+bug/196846 to something high please?18:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196846 in git-core "gitk requires wish8.5 but depends on tk8.4" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:05
james_wit's two binary packages where there programs won't start after installation, you have to edit the scripts to get them to work.18:06
erle-another critical bug may be: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/20433318:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204333 in linux-meta "[Hardy] [amd64] booting fails" [Undecided,New]18:07
IulianYou're welcome.18:11
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yuriyhappy hug day everyone!18:21
jjesse_hello yuriy18:21
stpereoh, hug day.. forgot about that :)18:22
* yuriy hugs jjesse_ 18:22
stpereI will try to help18:22
IulianHappy hug day, yuriy! ;-)18:25
yuriyjjesse_: could you add the lightgreen background when you edit the wiki?18:25
jjesse_sure sorry about that18:25
jjesse_do you want me to go back and edit it?18:25
yuriyjjesse_: nah, no big deal18:25
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mawxHi, I am rather new to triaging bugs so just to make sure...19:54
mawxI had a look at #15799319:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 157993 in network-manager "pppoe connection over NetworkManager 0.6 managed ethernet device doesn't work" [Unknown,Confirmed]19:54
mawxAnd the status says confirmed and below on a second line "Incomplete".19:55
mawxI feel both should be confirmed since all data has been added and there even is a workaround.19:55
mawxshall i just go ahead and change it?19:56
bdmurraymawx: the top line is for the upstream bug and bottom line is for the Ubuntu bug. Is it possible for them to have different statuses.19:57
mawxbdmurray: i don't see any reason why they should have. I think the necessary information is available it's quite obvious what  is causing the bug and it just needs to get fixed.19:59
bdmurrayIt looks to me like Alexander Sack, the maintainer for network-manager asked a question (in comment 7) and was trying to find out whether or not a solution helped.20:02
mawxbdmurray: weltall replied in the last comment.20:03
mawxI think i'll set it to confirmed. Hope noone bites my head of if that was wrong.20:04
jp_For some reason, I am not able to log into the Wiki. Could someone mark bug 196000 for me?20:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196000 in network-manager "failure modifying /etc/hosts on NM profile change" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19600020:04
bdmurraymawx: putting a comment as to why you confirmed it might be helpful for others then20:05
mawxbdmurray: i will. thanks.20:05
bdmurrayjp_: with what name?20:05
jp_bdmurray: josephpiche20:05
bdmurrayjp_: done - thanks for helping out!20:06
jp_bdmurray: sorry, but i think you misspelled it: josephpiche. thanks20:07
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yuriyany ideas what package bug 148192 should be against? seems to apply to all wifi configuration tools20:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 148192 in knetworkmanager "Spaces in ESSID Cause Wireless to Not Connect" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14819220:19
qensemaybe network-manager?20:20
qenseThe third block at the hugday page is completely green!20:21
qenseJust two to go at the second20:21
qenseAnd 8 at the first.20:22
yuriyqense: and then the 4th and 5th block :D20:22
qenseI don't see a 4th and 5th block yet. ;)20:22
yuriyqense: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080320/KDE knetworkmanager20:23
pedro_yuriy: my wireless essid contains an space and i can connect to it without problems20:23
pedro_logs logs20:23
bdmurraycould it be related to wpa?20:23
yuriypedro_: does iwconfig list it correctly too?20:23
pedro_without having logs it's difficult to know IMO20:24
pedro_time to eat, see you later20:26
josephpicheis bug 197912 expected behavior? I followed the steps and got the same result.20:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197912 in network-manager "Network Manager adds domain name where it shouldn't" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19791220:29
qensebut is it expected that the internet runs very slow?20:33
bdmurrayI don't think that is network-manager but rather the gnome-system-tools network configuration20:33
qenseso the user uses wrong settings20:34
qenseis this an incomplete or invalid bug?20:35
bdmurrayI think the package is wrong20:35
qensemaybe I confirmed the bug too fast20:36
qenseit's hard to decide about such bugs if they've got enough information since the reporter thinks he knows what's wrong and says it's an error, but maybe it is just expected behaviour20:36
bdmurrayI don't have nm-applet up in front of me but I don't think you can set hosts in it20:36
qensehe uses the gnome-system-tools to change the settings20:38
qenseI think network-admin20:38
bdmurrayIf that's the case the right package would be gnome-system-tools then20:38
greg-gnon-hugday-specific bug question:  bug 84931 is complaint about the unavailability of 16x16 icon sizes.  bug 149047 is requesting scalable icons for the same theme.  Since the later would effectively fix the prior, should the prior be marked a duplicate of the latter?  (sorry for that last phrase, it was just fun to type)20:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 84931 in human-icon-theme "Various icons don't have a 16x16 icon size" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8493120:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 149047 in human-icon-theme "Various icons don't have 48x48 nor scalable version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14904720:39
qenseI get the same thing he has(at least the thing becomes computername.domainname20:39
qenseinternet isn't very slow though20:40
* greg-g can wait for advice, no rush20:40
qenseI think I'll mark it invalid for network-manager at least20:41
qensebut is it a bug?20:41
qenseI mean, isn't it normal20:41
qensemaybe the slow internet has a different cause20:41
qenseI did find a bug though20:41
bdmurrayqense: you can change the package name instead for marking the network-manager task invalid20:42
qensewhen you remove the hostname again still redirects to computername.hostname20:42
qenseat least the bug is incomplete20:42
afiestasA fresh installation of kubuntu alpha6: knetworkmanager can't connect to my hidden wpa2 essid (with dhcp)20:44
bdmurraygreg-g: I'd keep the bug that Kenneth Wimer has commented on.20:47
qenseshouldn't bug 204200 be files against moonlight?20:50
ubotuBug 204200 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/204200 is private20:50
greg-gbdmurray: ok, thanks20:50
bdmurraygreg-g: he seems to mention not have all of the vector data in one of the comments too20:51
qensedoes apport replaces all usernames with 'username' by itself?20:52
greg-gbdmurray: yeah, it is mentioned.  i guess they are separate issues anyways.  the 16x16 icon set problem could be fixed before the "scalable for all" problem since the scalable will take much more work20:54
bdmurraygreg-g: that's true.  maybe adding a comment in the scalable referencing the 16x16 bug, so if the scalable one is resolved somebody would close the 16x16 one?20:55
greg-gsounds like a good idea20:57
greg-gbdmurray: thanks to me answer 'yes' to the question if i was still around, I ended up giving a little mini-howto in bug triaging that night :)20:59
bdmurraygreg-g: I hope that was okay.21:06
greg-gbdmurray: yes, of course, I would have said so if it wasn't.21:09
greg-gI was only able to give the person about 20 minutes since I had other things to do at that time, but it was fine.21:09
* greg-g is away21:10
bdmurrayIt looked like you two covered some good stuff in that time though.21:11
greg-gbdmurray: yeah, we got through much of the basics.  i unfortunately just wasn't the most comfortable triaging those bugs, just because I hadn't done it before.  but, in the end, all was good.21:38
bdmurraygreg-g: are there particular bugs you feel comfortable triaging?  I thought maybe we should make a bugsquad page of triager specialities.21:42
greg-gahh, good idea.21:43
greg-gdesktop applications in general really21:44
greg-gbecause i don't mind doing some of the upstream leg work (most times)21:45
bdmurrayI'm not sure the best way to organize a page like that though21:50
greg-g|| name || list of packages/areas of specialty || LP account link || ?22:01
bdmurraySo by name rather than by package?  I think that makes sense.22:03
greg-gyeah, otherwise there would be too much overlap/ambiguity22:03
bdmurrayright, I was thinking for a minute having includes from the debugging pages (after adding a triager name section) would be neat but what you've suggested sounds good22:05
bdmurrayplus with irc nicks22:05
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greg-gbdmurray: yes, in fact, irc nick in place of "name" probably, since some don't share their real name.22:19
bdmurraygreg-g: Sounds good. Would you mind starting it?22:19
greg-gbdmurray: sure, it won't be until later tonight22:21
jjessehows the hug day going22:34
bdmurrayjjesse: pretty well, almost 0 new network-manager bugs22:39
jjessebdmurray: that's awesome, i've done some for knetworkmanger as well22:40
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bdmurrayhmmm, still 7 new networkmanager bugs23:38
* calc is down to 181 msgs in bugmail23:52
calconly 10 days worth of bugmail is 500+ messages for me ;-)23:52
calcluckily i can delete anything that came from me, which helped a lot23:52
secretlondonyou can get that in a day if you are subscribed to a bug with lots of dupes -\like the kernel sound one..23:53
calcsecretlondon: fun23:58
secretlondonand they'll be the same comment "confirming in hardy" or something, as though we needed it23:58
bdmurrayI was somebody put this bug no longer requires confirmation in the description once and that makes a lot of sense to me23:59

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