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* P3L|C4N0 slds03:30
popeywhat's the ubotu thing that tells you how to compile stuff from source?09:29
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html09:29
popeyaha! !compile09:30
jussi01popey: you can use !search <keyword> to assist with that :)10:06
popeycool, ta10:06
persiaHi.  There's been a recent unbanning of a previously banned person on #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu.  My prior understanding was that a ban was retained until removed by either the banning operator or another operator, or an issue was raised as part of dispute resolution.13:56
persiaCould someone please confirm my understanding, or point me to documentation that might help better educate me?13:57
encryptzso the ban has been released?14:02
persiaApparently, but the operator removing the ban indicated they had done so under pressure, and I'm not sure if that is ideal.14:02
encryptzgenerally, the one who does the ban releases the ban14:03
PriceChildpersia: could you tell me which ban so I can find logs on the bantracker?14:03
persiaFurther, the ban was in support of a MOTU Council decision for somebody to not participate.  While it is properly up to the IRC Operators whether to ban or not, rather than MOTU Council, I have an interest in the ban.14:03
persiaPriceChild: unaffiliated/Kmox14:04
persiaErr.  unaffiliated/Kmos14:04
PriceChildOne moment.14:04
persia(Actually, I don't understand IRC very well, it may have only been a removal of voice rather than a channel block)14:05
PriceChildj #ubuntu-motu14:08
HobbseePriceChild: you need a pastebin?14:09
PriceChildI hate typos.14:09
PriceChildNo I've found it all I think.14:10
HobbseePriceChild: http://pastebin.ca/95030914:10
PriceChildpersia: I'm not sure what you're asking for. An operator of #ubuntu-motu chose to remove the ban?14:11
HobbseePriceChild: because the MC did not deem that it should be banned, and various people complained.14:12
HobbseePriceChild: what the MC really needs to do is to issue a statement requesting a ban, in which channels, and what type of ban (ban or quiet), to the irc & motu ML's, imo14:13
persiaPriceChild: I'm mostly trying to understand the rules.  I thought any operator could institute or remove a ban, and was allowed to do so as long as it didn't get raised for dispute resolution.  That doesn't match what Hobbsee said, which confuses me.14:13
Hobbseepersia: oh, they can.14:13
PriceChildpersia: people on the access list are free to ban/unban etc. etc. as they wish. It is up for the channel contact/owners to put their own policy and ask their ops to follow.14:13
persiaThe official MC position is that MC doesn't have jurisdiction over IRC, but appreciates support for decisions (like Kmos not participating) from the IRC Operators.14:14
Hobbseepersia: but, the MC, etc didn't agree with that, and i got mass emails telling me i was wrong.14:14
persiaPriceChild: Thanks for the confirmation.14:14
Hobbseepersia: hence, i don't plan to act again until the MC actually gives a hard request on !irc requesting a ban, so then i can point anyone who decides to cause problems about it to the MC.14:14
persiaHobbsee: Speaking for the MC, we agree.  I'll get another op to reinstate the ban if you don't want your name on the list.14:14
persiaAny volunteers?14:15
Hobbseepersia: i want that written, publically, in !irc14:15
* Hobbsee is happy to reban, but...14:15
Hobbseei dont' want more mass emails about how it should'nt have been done14:15
Hobbseeand if i get them, i'll forward them straight to you guys, and it won't be my problem, as i've followed the requests of the MC.14:16
persiaRight.  I'll have to get that reviewed, but this isn't the forum.14:16
persiaPriceChild: Thanks again for the confirmation.14:16
persiaHobbsee: Thanks for the ban.  I'll let you kow.14:16
PipHow can I reach ubuntu channels as a tor user and without registered14:33
Hobbseeyou can't.14:34
PipI'm trying your advice14:35
jpatrick!tor-gpg | this ought to do it14:35
ubotuthis ought to do it: You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked.  How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode.14:35
PipI see14:37
encryptztor is slick. i just wish it wasn't so laggy14:37
ubotuTOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg15:27
encryptzi see tha factoid has been updated to something more accurate and less biased. ツ15:27
TheDeadAngel666_r1_: plop15:43
ubotuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe17:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:08
naliothjordan ?17:16
erUSULnalioth: yes; i was trying to figure out the jordan channel17:25
erUSULnalioth: it does not exist; isn't it?17:25
naliotherUSUL: it is registered17:27
erUSULnalioth: well nevermind it was just someone asking on #ubuntu17:29
emgentIt's possible to join ubot in #ubuntu-hardened ?19:20
Tm_Temgent: hmm, try #ubuntu-bots and/or #ubuntu-ops ?19:32
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