=== TheDeadAngel666 is now known as TheJokeMan000 === TheJokeMan000 is now known as TheDeadAngel666 [03:30] * P3L|C4N0 slds [09:29] what's the ubotu thing that tells you how to compile stuff from source? [09:29] !source [09:29] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [09:30] hmm [09:30] aha! !compile [10:06] popey: you can use !search to assist with that :) [10:06] cool, ta [10:07] :) [13:56] Hi. There's been a recent unbanning of a previously banned person on #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu. My prior understanding was that a ban was retained until removed by either the banning operator or another operator, or an issue was raised as part of dispute resolution. [13:57] Could someone please confirm my understanding, or point me to documentation that might help better educate me? [14:02] so the ban has been released? [14:02] Apparently, but the operator removing the ban indicated they had done so under pressure, and I'm not sure if that is ideal. [14:03] generally, the one who does the ban releases the ban [14:03] persia: could you tell me which ban so I can find logs on the bantracker? [14:03] Further, the ban was in support of a MOTU Council decision for somebody to not participate. While it is properly up to the IRC Operators whether to ban or not, rather than MOTU Council, I have an interest in the ban. [14:04] PriceChild: unaffiliated/Kmox [14:04] ahhh [14:04] Err. unaffiliated/Kmos [14:04] One moment. [14:05] (Actually, I don't understand IRC very well, it may have only been a removal of voice rather than a channel block) [14:08] j #ubuntu-motu [14:09] PriceChild: you need a pastebin? [14:09] I hate typos. [14:10] No I've found it all I think. [14:10] PriceChild: http://pastebin.ca/950309 [14:11] persia: I'm not sure what you're asking for. An operator of #ubuntu-motu chose to remove the ban? [14:12] PriceChild: because the MC did not deem that it should be banned, and various people complained. [14:13] PriceChild: what the MC really needs to do is to issue a statement requesting a ban, in which channels, and what type of ban (ban or quiet), to the irc & motu ML's, imo [14:13] PriceChild: I'm mostly trying to understand the rules. I thought any operator could institute or remove a ban, and was allowed to do so as long as it didn't get raised for dispute resolution. That doesn't match what Hobbsee said, which confuses me. [14:13] persia: oh, they can. [14:13] persia: people on the access list are free to ban/unban etc. etc. as they wish. It is up for the channel contact/owners to put their own policy and ask their ops to follow. [14:14] The official MC position is that MC doesn't have jurisdiction over IRC, but appreciates support for decisions (like Kmos not participating) from the IRC Operators. [14:14] persia: but, the MC, etc didn't agree with that, and i got mass emails telling me i was wrong. [14:14] PriceChild: Thanks for the confirmation. [14:14] persia: hence, i don't plan to act again until the MC actually gives a hard request on !irc requesting a ban, so then i can point anyone who decides to cause problems about it to the MC. [14:14] Hobbsee: Speaking for the MC, we agree. I'll get another op to reinstate the ban if you don't want your name on the list. [14:15] Any volunteers? [14:15] persia: i want that written, publically, in !irc [14:15] * Hobbsee is happy to reban, but... [14:15] i dont' want more mass emails about how it should'nt have been done [14:16] and if i get them, i'll forward them straight to you guys, and it won't be my problem, as i've followed the requests of the MC. [14:16] Right. I'll have to get that reviewed, but this isn't the forum. [14:16] PriceChild: Thanks again for the confirmation. [14:16] Hobbsee: Thanks for the ban. I'll let you kow. [14:16] cool [14:33] How can I reach ubuntu channels as a tor user and without registered [14:34] you can't. [14:35] :D [14:35] I'm trying your advice [14:35] !tor-gpg | this ought to do it [14:35] this ought to do it: You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [14:37] I see [14:37] tor is slick. i just wish it wasn't so laggy [15:02] good [15:27] !tor [15:27] TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg [15:27] i see tha factoid has been updated to something more accurate and less biased. ツ [15:43] <_r1_> hi [15:43] _r1_: plop [15:43] <_r1_> oO [17:08] !ar [17:08] La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [17:08] !jo [17:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about jo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [17:15] jo? [17:16] jordan ? [17:25] nalioth: yes; i was trying to figure out the jordan channel [17:25] nalioth: it does not exist; isn't it? [17:27] erUSUL: it is registered [17:29] nalioth: well nevermind it was just someone asking on #ubuntu [19:20] hello [19:20] It's possible to join ubot in #ubuntu-hardened ? [19:32] emgent: hmm, try #ubuntu-bots and/or #ubuntu-ops ? === dantalizing is now known as benny_lava === TheDeadAngel666 is now known as UnknowMan === UnknowMan is now known as TheDeadAngel666