[00:00] <gmazk_> kitche: is there a IRC channel where I can report this failure?
[00:00] <dvoid_> whats is the equivalent to inittab in ubuntu?
[00:00] <hischild> yowshi, .... you have to use chown the sudo binary as root:root in rescue mode ...
[00:00] <yowshi> ok
[00:00] <yowshi> wil;l do unop__ sorry for delay was writing all that down
[00:00] <hischild> unop__, the sudo binary is no longer owned by root ... he has to reown it (ls WILL say it's owned by root)
[00:00] <wantE17style> is there a way to make a source who is sending a ping of death wait 24 hours??//?????????????????/
[00:00] <genii> exegesis: That's not an Ubuntu question, perhaps ask in ##windows for vista-relaed issues
[00:00] <wantE17style> my router doesn't seem to offer a timeout.........
[00:01] <yowshi> unop_ does this require a full reboot or will a change session into failsalfe terminal work?
[00:01] <hischild> wantE17style, you can drop the packages
[00:01] <exegesis> genii it has to be an Ubuntu question because I had no problems booting into Vista before, and if it's a Windows issue I might as well forget it since their help sucks
[00:01] <hischild> yowshi, you have to be root ... thus a reboot into rescue is needed
[00:01] <unop_> yowshi, you could drop down into runlevel 1 if thats what you mean
[00:01] <kitche> gmazk_: I wonder if it's a heat issue
[00:01] <unop_> hischild, the problem is that $(which sudo) is no longer setuid root - thats what we're trying to fix
[00:01] <yowshi> yeah at the login screen it allows me to change session into terminal and login as root
[00:01] <hansderagon> Greetings.  Is there an equivalent of consolehelper for Ubuntu?  I have a script that needs to become root after asking for the password to the user.
[00:01] <kitche> gmazk_: or it's draining the battery so fast that your laptop will shutdown
[00:01] <shiv> Are you pretty safe with Ubuntu for security, in terms of firewall? Or should I install Fwbuilder?
[00:02] <unop_> yowshi, that should work
[00:02] <wantE17style> how do I write the IPTABLE rules to drop packages? I think it is dropping ICMP pings already............I set that rule with firestarter
[00:02] <yowshi> cool bbs
[00:02] <dai1313> belkinhelp, acctually im pretty useless too, ask someone else
[00:02] <slide> How can I restore an old servers mysql installation? I have the entire old ubuntu filesystem and a fresh install and need to migrate the mysql server over. Any guide or anything?
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv, You dont need to add one
[00:02] <portamenteff> shv: i've had good luck with the native firewall in Ubuntu and other *nixes
[00:02] <hischild> unop_, i know, the problem in it, is that the sudo binary is no longer owned by root ... if he reboots into rescue mode he's auto set as root ... if he then chown's the sudo binary as root:root and does your chmod thing, he will have sudo access again
[00:02] <unop_> racemap,  --  date -s "$(cat date_file | tr -d '\n')"
[00:02] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: K
[00:03] <wantE17style> what is fwbuilder??????????
[00:03] <racemap> unop_:thanx so much
[00:03] <gmazk_> kitche: it may be. But different users of different notebook manufacturers are reporting the same issue since last week. So I'm suspecting about some update problem or something.
[00:04] <unop_> hischild, hmm, i dunno if i paid attention to his sudo's ownership -- let's see when he gets back
[00:04] <genii> exegesis: Any idea of what the last thing was that happened that might be relevent? updates,downloads,cold reboots, etc?
[00:04] <MUS4SHIII> Can anyone help me with mythtvfs in the fstab?
[00:05] <gmazk_> kitche: maybe some wrong ACPI table.
[00:05] <wantE17style> :( no knows how to help me? :'(
[00:05] <ConstyXIV> anyone have a link to the hardyheron background by chance?
[00:05] <yowshi> the ls -l $(which sudo) hasnt changed
[00:05] <hischild> unop_, if you ls -al the file it'll say it's owned by root ... yet chowning the file root:root actually fixes it (i've experienced it myself by a "slight" mistake)
[00:05] <exegesis> genii no because I don't usually boot into Vista, and I tried a couple months ago and that's when it happend
[00:05] <yowshi> i wonder incidentally if this has something to do with my home folder privs and my .d,rc file
[00:05] <unop_> yowshi, ok, let's see the output of that ls command anyway
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | wantE17style
[00:05] <ubotu> wantE17style: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:06] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ ls -l $(which sudo)
[00:06] <yowshi> -rwsr-xr-x 2 proxy root 106336 2007-06-15 08:54 /usr/bin/sudo
[00:06] <unop_> yowshi, ahh, seems hischild was right after all --    run this command (as root) -- chown root:root $(which sudo)
[00:06] <exegesis> j
[00:06] <hischild> unop_, somewhere it has a thread on the forums about it that helped me out on it
[00:07] <yowshi> ok bbs
[00:07] <unop_> hischild, thats strange, why did they change ownership of sudo like that -- pretty stupid imo
[00:07] <wantE17style> well, how about someone explaining if I need this 'fwbuilder'?????
[00:07] <hischild> unop_, they didn't ... he probably did a chown on the /usr/bin folder which contains the sudo binary
[00:08] <hischild> wantE17style, perhaps a little attitude change would help
[00:08] <genii> exegesis: I'm not sure if Windows still has the boot menu you can access by F8 key and select Safe Mode or so on, but perhaps worth trying before using some recovery strategy off the bootable cd like fixmbr or so on
[00:08] <jester7> anybody here have a dell inspiron 1525?
[00:08] <unop_> hischild, thats likely
[00:09] <hischild> unop_, made that mistake once myself
[00:09] <wantE17style> I'm not patient anymore - this vaunted linux is supposed to be able to withstand web attacks
[00:09] <exegesis> This is gonna sound dumb but I'm using XChat IRC and just deleted the Menu toolbar from appearing; how to I get it back?
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> wantE17style, if you understand firewall/iptables.. you know that you dont
[00:09] <yowshi> that di8dnt fix it
[00:09] <exegesis> genii I'll try that
[00:09] <yowshi> though now it says root root
[00:09] <wantE17style> I want to know why this flaw is crashing my server........
[00:09] <wantE17style> of course, I don't
[00:09] <hischild> wantE17style, take a look at a good look at iptables and look for a manpage.
[00:09] <wantE17style> if I did, then I could solve this problem
[00:09] <unop_> yowshi, what happens when you try and sudo now?
[00:09] <ConstyXIV> are there any gnome-based irc clients besides xchat and pidgin?
[00:09] <yowshi> oshi@ubuntu:~$ sudo pcmanfm
[00:09] <yowshi> sudo: must be setuid root
[00:10] <unop_> yowshi, damn -- output ls -l
[00:10] <hischild> unop_, .... let me check for that site again
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ConstyXIV, Konversation, kvirc etc
[00:10] <wantE17style> manpages are too arcane......
[00:10] <unop_> yowshi, what does ls -l output now?
[00:10] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ ls -l $(which sudo)
[00:10] <yowshi> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 106336 2007-06-15 08:54 /usr/bin/sudo
[00:10] <ConstyXIV> Jack_Sparrow: i said GNOME-based
[00:10] <yowshi> i am thinking i should unedit the sudoers file as well
[00:11] <yowshi> sinc ei did try and edit that ealier and never removed what i added
[00:11] <hischild> chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo and chwon root:root /usr/bin/sudo .... unop_ and yowshi  ... do those 2 commands and you'll be good
[00:11] <hischild> make that chown and not chwon
[00:11] <unop_> yowshi, hmm, setuid seems to reset -- let's give this one more try --  run this command (as root) -- chown root:root $(which sudo)l chmod 4755 $(which sudo)
[00:11] <wantE17style> I notice that near the time my router is forced to reset is when my server crashes
[00:11] <yowshi> l?
[00:12] <unop_> yowshi, no l :p
[00:12] <yowshi> just checking
[00:12] <unop_> yowshi, that should be a ;
[00:12] <yowshi> ah ok
[00:12] <yowshi> i see two command one line thing
[00:12] <hischild> unop_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[00:12] <yowshi> isnt the command seperater a : not an ;?
[00:12] <hischild> yowshi, no, it's a ;
[00:12] <yowshi> ok bbs
[00:13] <gigi> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> gigi, Hello, welcome to ubuntu
[00:13] <minimec> ConstyXIV: There is a special xchat-gnome version with a different layout. But ... irssi beats them all...
[00:14] <wantE17style> is it possible to deactivate ping for tcp/udp for linux?
[00:14] <unop_> Wanderer, ping uses icmp not tcp/udp
[00:15] <unop_> wantE17style, ^^^
[00:15] <wantE17style> ok, thanks
[00:15] <shawnharn> tritium?
[00:15] <wantE17style> I"m simply mystified why ubuntu is freezing :/
[00:15] <shawnharn> is tritium herte?
[00:16] <unop_> shawnharn, seems to be -- could be afk
[00:16] <yowshi> ok that didnt work and removing the entry i put in sudoers for my user has gotten me back to permission denied
[00:16] <hischild> unop_, you seen the link?
[00:17] <unop_> hischild, aye, pretty much what we recommended
[00:17] <shawnharn> hmm
[00:17] <shawnharn> okay
[00:17] <yowshi> wish i could just login here as root and run the commands as you guys give them to me
[00:17] <hischild> unop_, indeed
[00:17] <yowshi> without all this logging out crap
[00:17] <shawnharn> he was going to helo me today
[00:17] <unop_> yowshi, what error did you get prior to removing the sudoer entry?
[00:17] <shawnharn> help
[00:17] <MUS4SHIII> can anyone help me with mythtvfs fstab config?
[00:17] <hischild> yowshi, you can use irssi in the recovery mode and then do it :-)
[00:17] <yowshi> irssi?
[00:18] <Bob_Dole> Command line IRC client
[00:18] <unop_> yowshi, what does ls -l $(which sudo) read now?
[00:18] <Bob_Dole> I've not used it, because I'm one of those n00bs who prefers to not venture out of the GUI very often
[00:18] <yowshi> unop_ i didnt try i figured i would remove my editing first and then run the commands
[00:18] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ ls -l $(which sudo)
[00:18] <yowshi> -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 106336 2007-06-15 08:54 /usr/bin/sudo
[00:18] <yowshi> with the usr/bin/sudo bit in red
[00:19] <unop_> yowshi, ok, thats good -- now you need your group/user in sudoer to be able to sudo
[00:19] <unop_> sudoers*
[00:19] <hischild> unop_, you made him create a new group? or he still has his old details?
[00:19] <yowshi> but it was already in there a yoshi ALL=(ALL) ALL entry
[00:19] <unop_> yowshi, is it in now tho?
[00:19] <erle-> swapon: /dev/sda1: Invalid argument
[00:19] <erle-> what the fuck?
[00:19] <unop_> yowshi, it has to be in now
[00:19] <yowshi> no thats what i added
[00:20] <yowshi> and then just commented out
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> erle-, Watch the language please
[00:20]  * Pelo needs a new hobby
[00:20] <erle-> Jack_Sparrow, sorry
[00:20] <yowshi> ok bbs
[00:20] <unop_> yowshi, uncomment it
[00:20] <crossm0ve> I am trying to install 'dchroot' I get the error E: Couldn't find package dchroot
[00:20] <unop_> hischild, using his existing group membership
[00:21] <Pelo> crossm0ve, do it through synaptic, dchroot might not be the exact name of the package
[00:21] <minimec> Bob_Dole: irrsi is a monster (in good/bad terms). irrsi can do evrything and drive you mad at the same time. I   guess it's like being married ;)
[00:21] <crossm0ve> Pelo: How do I do it through synaptic?
[00:21] <Pelo> crossm0ve, you have a gui right ? gnome ?
[00:21] <hischild> unop_, then he should be able to sudo now
[00:21] <crossm0ve> Pelo: Yes
[00:21] <Pelo> crossm0ve, menu > systm> admin > synaptic package manager,  use the search feature
[00:22] <crossm0ve> Pelo: Thank iyou
[00:22] <crossm0ve> 8you
[00:22] <crossm0ve> *you
[00:22] <unop_> crossm0ve, sure you didnt make changes to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:22]  * Pelo thinks the quality of gratitude is dropping in this channel 
[00:22] <xjkx> i installed ubuntu on usb flashdriver. i created only one partition with 2gb. its not even close to that, but somehow it seems to have mounted it all separately, its saying /usr is full, what should i do ? I am using the persistent thing
[00:22] <shiv> Pelo: why
[00:23] <yowshi> that didnt work
[00:23] <yowshi> there is also this wierd little %admion entry in there that i commented out
[00:23] <unop_> yowshi, error message?
[00:23] <yowshi> permission denied
[00:23] <yowshi> %admin
[00:23] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ sudo pcmanfm
[00:23] <yowshi> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[00:24] <shiv> Pelo: ah, lol. cause I appreciate all the help :P
[00:24] <Pelo> xjkx, 2 gig isn'T much to run ubuntu ,  you might want to consider puppy linux for a flash drive
[00:24] <unop_> yowshi, uncomment admin -- it's needed :)
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, it should be plenty for persistent
[00:24] <demonspork> whenever I try to set my time in the menu, it changes, but after every reboot it changes to one hour ahead. I have the correct time zone selected and other OSs detect the hour correctly
[00:24] <yowshi> well the admin line wasnt in the how to you linked me to
[00:25] <Pelo> demonspork,  daylight savings time in your area ?
[00:25] <Anderson> My external hdd is mounting as RO how do I make it RW?
[00:25] <crossm0ve> unop_: I just booted the CD... so I don't think so
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, I have a couple of 256meg I use for persistent.  the persistent image on them is only 45 megs when fresh
[00:25] <unop_> yowshi, the howto was just to demonstrate how to add stuff to the sudoers file -- but you have ruled yourself out of being able to sudo by commenting out the admin group
[00:26] <ma5t3rw1tt> I have a question. In Windows, I am able to share my wireless internet connection through my ethernet . Are you able to share your internet connection here on Ubuntu?
[00:26] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  i'll beleive you , I know little about it
[00:26] <crossm0ve> I
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:26] <captmorgan> hello, I have some questions regarding putting /home on a new HDD I just got
[00:26] <Pelo> ma5t3rw1tt, yes,   I think you do it using firestarter or someting , check sharing internet in the forum
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, you may have been thinking iso2usb, and 2 gigs is not really enough for that
[00:26] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ sudo pcmanfm
[00:26] <yowshi> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[00:26] <yowshi> same problem
[00:26] <unop_> crossm0ve, ahh, you trying to install dchroot in a live CD session?
[00:27] <crossm0ve> unop_: Yes
[00:27] <ma5t3rw1tt> Pelo: Will do, thanks
[00:27] <unop_> yowshi, pastebin the contents of /etc/sudoers
[00:27] <Anderson> My external hdd is mounting as RO how do I make it RW?
[00:27] <crossm0ve> unop_: dchroot and debootstrap
[00:27] <PaulOgle591> I have a question about wubi
[00:27] <unop_> crossm0ve, you'll need to enable the universe repository
[00:27] <Pelo> captmorgan, just make a partition on that hdd,  , copy your current /home to it , edit fstab to reflect that your new hdd shold be mounted to /home and reboot
[00:27] <unop_> !universe
[00:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Anderson, let people know what type of partitions are on that external
[00:27] <yowshi> i cant view the file
[00:27] <Pelo> captmorgan,  you might want to use the live cd to delete the content of your old /home folder
[00:27] <Anderson> Jack_Sparrow, how do I find that?
[00:28] <Anderson> Jack_Sparrow,  mount?
[00:28] <fevel> hey
[00:28] <unop_> yowshi, errm, sorry -- make a copy of it (as root)
[00:28] <yowshi> alright
[00:28] <ido-> how can i resize my partition without reformatting ?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, you want sep partition for home right?
[00:28] <PaulOgle591> I have wubi installed and as I get in to kubuntu, after it gets past the kubuntu splash screen i am left with a blank screen
[00:28] <Anderson> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Anderson, sudo fdisk -l
[00:28] <Itaku> whats the command to go to a mounted filesystem off of live cd to use like passwd and that
[00:28] <Pelo> ido-, just use the live cd and use the gnome partiton editor in the admin menu
[00:28] <ogra> Pzu
[00:28] <Pelo> ido-, backup first
[00:28] <unop_> Itaku, chroot ?
[00:29] <dep> Itaku: chroot
[00:29] <Anderson> Jack_Sparrow, HPFS/NTFS
[00:29] <ido-> and if i done have a livecd handy ?
[00:29] <Itaku> yeah
[00:29] <Itaku> thanks
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, Here is a link with the basics  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:29] <amenado> Itaku-> have you mounted the FS yourself ?
[00:29] <fevel> im looking for a good torrent aplication for ubuntu, i need one that has good criptography, works with upnp and alternates ports whenever it starts, can anyone indicate me a good program?
[00:29] <Pelo> ido-,  you cannot rezise a working partiton, if the partiton is not the one you are working on it won'T be a problem
[00:29] <Itaku> yes
[00:29] <PaulOgle591> you wouldn't need crpytography for legit downloads ;)
[00:29] <Pelo> ido-,  you might also consider getting the gparted live cd
[00:29] <Itaku> and whats the apt-get package for like the core utiluties?
[00:29] <Cahone> I really like the idea of Linux but it is exhausting to say the least
[00:29] <amenado> !who | Itaku
[00:29] <ubotu> Itaku: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:29] <Fryguy--> fevel: dunno about upnp, but deluge will probably work, and of course azureus is available (I personally recommend rtorrent, but I think you might be looking for a gui)
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Anderson, I am preoccupied, I was only trying to help you form a better question so you would get the right answers..  look into ntfs-3g
[00:30]  * Pelo is getting too good at this, it's scary
[00:30] <chris062689> I love Ubuntu :)
[00:30] <Anderson> Jack_Sparrow, gotcha, thanks
[00:30] <MUS4SHIII> what is the best widget system out there? I want to pin certain things to the desktop so that I can hotkey to the desktop and see my widgets on my third monitor.
[00:30] <Itaku> whats the apt-get package for like the core utiluties?
[00:30] <ido-> Pelo: can i duplicate a working partition to a larger drive ?
[00:30] <Itaku> like rm
[00:30] <Pelo> chris062689, so do we all
[00:30] <fevel> Fryguy--,  yes ill like one that runs on a gui soh I dont need to keep a terminal open
[00:30] <Anderson> My external hdd is mounting as RO how do I make it RW? It is type HPFS/NTFS.
[00:30] <ido-> via dd or something ?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Anderson, Windows may have also locked it in which case you would be looking at ntfsfix
[00:30] <fevel> Fryguy--, thanks for the tips
[00:30] <Anderson> Jack_Sparrow, k
[00:30] <captmorgan> Pelo  & Jack_Sparrow - I am going with  fresh install of 7.10 and I currently have one 120gb (orig drive w/ ubuntu on it) and I just got a 500gb drive. I am wanting to move all my music and videos to the new HDD and do a fresh install of Ubuntu of the 120gb drive
[00:30] <Pelo> ido-,  you can always copy it , but you won'T be able to swtith to it "hot" I guess
[00:30] <unop_> Itaku, coreutils ?
[00:30] <Itaku> yeah...
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, so far so good
[00:31] <Cahone> I guess i have to buy practically a whole new system to get everything to work properly...or so it seems
[00:31] <lordleemo> fevel: ktorrent   azureus
[00:31] <Itaku> meh i got to reinstall
[00:31] <amenado> Anderson-> you did man mount? the man pages will give you some idea of how to do it right
[00:31] <Fryguy--> captmorgan: why do you need to reinstall?
[00:31] <Itaku> now i got my security breeched
[00:31] <Itaku> not an exploit
[00:31] <ido-> no need to switch hot, i can reboot for that, i just want to replace my drive with a larger one
[00:31] <ido-> how do i do that ?
[00:31] <demonspork> Pelo, it adjusted the error to daylight savings time when it happened
[00:31] <Cahone> What are the best components that work with Linux
[00:31] <Fryguy--> Cahone: way too vague a question
[00:31] <captmorgan> Jack_Sparrow so can I just copy my stuff to the 500 gb drive and install to the 120 drive?
[00:31] <fevel> lordleemo,  transmission doesnt alternate ports right?
[00:32] <unop_> Cahone, everything and nothing all at the same time . :)
[00:32] <yowshi> it's no good
[00:32] <lordleemo> fevel: never used it sorry
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, yep. you may need to give yourself permissions later, but that wont be a big deal
[00:32] <Pelo> captmorgan, I have two 80 gig drives as follows,  hdd1   10 gig / , 2 gig swap , 68 gig /home, hdd2   9 gig windows,  1 gig vfat , 60 gig download
[00:32] <yowshi> i have tried the cp command twice and the copied just wind up as protected as the original
[00:32] <PaulOgle591> i find that my nvidia card has pixel diahrea with liunx video drivers
[00:32] <Cahone> Fryguy--, well i got an MSI video card and AOE Flat screen and KDS CRT and it is a mess
[00:32] <bastid_raZor> fevel; it doesn't automatically switch ports but it can be done in a quick three clicks of the mouse
[00:32] <captmorgan> Fryguy-- I was messing with a customization of adding the File Menu View Tools bar to the bar on top and it got totally screwed up so I am just going to re-install\
[00:32] <PaulOgle591> thats the only component along with hd audio that has problems
[00:32]  * nikrud has never heard of a download file system
[00:32] <PaulOgle591> will they fix HD audio drivers?
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, no need for that...
[00:33] <_polto_> hi all
[00:33] <Fryguy--> ChaosMachine: shouldn't be
[00:33] <Fryguy--> err
[00:33] <Fryguy--> Cahone:
[00:33] <yowshi> i could login to gdm as root
[00:33] <zocky_> hi
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, we can fix it with one line
[00:33] <unop_> yowshi, ouch, cp would copy permissions too -- copy using cat --  cat /etc/sudoers >> /tmp/sudoers
[00:33] <Cahone> Fryguy--, yes?
[00:33] <Pelo> demonspork,  this is a fresh install ? do the upgrade there was a bug fix for the daylight thing, it might fix it
[00:33] <yowshi> ok
[00:33] <Fryguy--> captmorgan: there are very rare circumstances to reinstall an operating system, screwing with menus shouldn't be one of them :/
[00:33] <fevel> what do you guys have to say about deluge? has anybody used it?
[00:33] <zocky_> how do I make compiz start automatically without using system->preferences->appearance, since that doesn't seem to work with my driver setup?
[00:33] <Fryguy--> Cahone: sorry I mistyped.  your equipment is fine, linux is going to work with any monitor, and pretty much any video card
[00:33] <yowshi> bbs
[00:34] <nikrud> !resetpanels | captmorgan
[00:34] <Pelo> nikrud, not a download file system, more an explanation of the use of the partitons
[00:34] <ubotu> captmorgan: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[00:34] <bastid_raZor> fevel; deluge is similiar to transmission
[00:34] <ChaosMachine> Fryguy--, :)
[00:34] <Fryguy--> fevel: i've used it, it's fine.  I prefer rtorrent
[00:34] <captmorgan> Fryguy-- I have been without desktop effects for over 6 weeks after that
[00:34] <ido-> Pelo:  ?
[00:34] <orbisvicis> fevel, deluge nice, but not on windows ; (
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan, ctrl-alt F2     then    rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[00:34] <nikrud> Pelo: I know, just all the others were file systems. Was funny ;)
[00:34] <orbisvicis> depends what you are looking for
[00:34] <Fryguy--> captmorgan: so? fix it.  (desktop effects are a waste of cpu cycles btw)
[00:34] <TheMuso> PaulOgle591: You were wanting to ask about wubi?
[00:34] <Pelo> ido-, ???6
[00:34] <TheMuso> PaulOgle591: Have you received an anwer yet?
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ctrl-alt F7 to come back
[00:34] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to pin desklets to the desktop so they don't go away when I hotkey show desktop.
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan,   http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[00:35] <lordleemo> fevel: i just had a look at the sight looks like a good client maybe ill try it
[00:35] <fevel> orbisvicis, what do you mean windows? im looking for getting around those damn isp restrictions, they denie it
[00:35] <Cahone> Fryguy--, well I cant get the resolutions i want and cant use dual monitors and I cant use enhanced video modes that Ubuntu says it offers
[00:35] <Pelo> ido-, you would do better to clean installn an dthen copy the content of your /home to the new hdd
[00:36] <Fryguy--> Cahone: so configure your system correctly so that you can.  The problem isn't your hardware
[00:36] <orbisvicis> fevel, deluge does support torrent encryption if thats what you are asking ?
[00:36] <dep> MUS4SHIII: Not possible. If you want a more detailed description of why, ask, but it's related to their gtk implementation
[00:36] <orbisvicis> but so does azureus 2.5 for win
[00:36] <ido-> ugh.
[00:36] <ido-> too much time
[00:36] <_polto_> I am running a 64 bit ubuntu Gutsy on my desktop and i am trying to get Xilinx ISE work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XilinxISE#head-c95f0e4e1b1574f6f38d37ff4400188041b3e5c5 say (last lines) what ia32-libmotif3 package does not exist. On Feisty i already run Xilinx with all futures. the Gutsy 64 bit is looking for /usr/lib32/libXm.so.3 where can i find it ?
[00:36] <ido-> i can however mount my home elsewhere.
[00:36] <Cahone> Fryguy--, well i looked for the drivers everywhere and cant find them for any of the devices
[00:36] <ryzka> your name???????????????????????????????????????????????????
[00:36] <PaulOgle591> As i am still a windows user, what is the best c++ compiler that I can use, with a reasonable ide that still follows all of the gcc rules
[00:36] <Cahone> Fryguy--, I would love to know what im doing wrong
[00:37] <Fryguy--> Cahone: what devices are you having problems locating or configuring drivers for
[00:37] <Pelo> ido-, you can copy yor /home to the new hdd and change fstab to point to it
[00:37] <PaulOgle591> im looking into visual studio and am finding that makes its own rules
[00:37] <unop_> PaulOgle591, anjuta
[00:37]  * Pelo is getting a bit confused about ido- 's issue
[00:37] <PaulOgle591> how about devc++
[00:37] <bperry> PaulOgle591: monodevelop :-)
[00:37] <orbisvicis> PaulOgle591, vis studio free for students. or bloodshed dev-c++
[00:37] <yowshi> i couldnt figure out how to make it cat to a file i had made so i could find the bloody thing
[00:37] <MUS4SHIII> Thanks dep. Is there any way to get some kind of widget layer pinned? I miss my "Outlook on the desktop" from my MCE install.
[00:37]  * Fryguy-- is a software engineer
[00:37] <yowshi> but there are only 3 uncommented lines and i wrote em down
[00:37] <Fryguy--> what do you want to know about programming?
[00:37] <unop_> PaulOgle591, gcc (or rather g++) is the c++ compiler -- you can use any ide you like
[00:37] <PaulOgle591> i have vis stuio 2008
[00:38] <_polto_> any idea on how to install 32 bit version of libmotif3 on 64 bit Gutsy ?
[00:38] <theunixgeek> What's the difference between a delete_event and a destroy event in GTK?
[00:38] <PaulOgle591> one more question
[00:38]  * Pelo thiks Fryguy--  might be too good for this crowd, he should go to #debian and talk down to the ops there 
[00:38] <Cahone> Fryguy--, Graphics drivers for the MSI RX1600Pro-TD256E and AOC Flatscreen monitor and KDS CRT
[00:38] <PaulOgle591> does anyone know about Wubi?
[00:38] <orbisvicis> PaulOgle591, eclipse and netbeans have good ides. Vim has good syntax highlighting
[00:38] <PaulOgle591> and how to use Wubi?
[00:38] <theunixgeek> PaulOgle591: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu%29
[00:38] <orbisvicis> no
[00:38] <PaulOgle591> yes
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulOgle591, yes.. enough to stay away from it
[00:38] <PaulOgle591> but i am running into troubles
[00:38] <arvind_khadri> hi are there any GUI html editors,a one like frontpage
[00:38] <Pelo> PaulOgle591, as I understant it , wubi creates a  virtual ubuntu that runs inside windows
[00:39] <nikrud> PaulOgle591: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  for wubi forums
[00:39] <unop_> theunixgeek,  the former is a result of a user action -- the latter usually means the object is unreffed -- usually the result of code
[00:39] <dep> MUS4SHIII: Compiz's "Widget Layer" may be what you're looking for, it is a toggle-able widget display
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulOgle591, we dont support it in here
[00:39] <PaulOgle591> i understand that too
[00:39] <PaulOgle591> o
[00:39] <Cahone> Fryguy--, i have looked everywhere and tried to use other drivers offered in Ubuntu but i dont know which ones to choose
[00:39] <stwange> does anyone know of a text editor with a GUI that runs over SSH? ie. something like BlueFish or GEdit, but instead of X-Forwarding, it just synches the text up over the connection, not the graphics
[00:39] <Pelo> PaulOgle591,  sort of like if it was running on a vrtual macine
[00:39] <theunixgeek> unop_: thanks
[00:39] <PaulOgle591> any particular reason why you don't support it?
[00:39] <Pelo> PaulOgle591, we just deal with straight ubuntu here, it's more then we can handle usualy
[00:39] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, hi are there any GUI html editors,a one like frontpage
[00:39] <MUS4SHIII> thanks, I'll look into that. I've got Compiz working pretty well, so I'll see what's available in there.
[00:39] <PaulOgle591> ok
[00:40] <Fryguy--> Cahone: monitors don't have drivers.  As for the video card, that's a plain ati card, they get detected out of the box with 0 issues.  What is the specific problem you are having?
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulOgle591, That would drift into discussion, simply put.. it isnt a good way to install ubuntu
[00:40] <PaulOgle591> ok
[00:40] <unop_> arvind_khadri, there's ooweb part of open office
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, Last I heard.. it can be very dangerous
[00:40] <PaulOgle591> well thanks for your help
[00:40] <cogeno> Is anyone here familiar with systemimager?
[00:40] <arvind_khadri> unop_, thanks ,i dont have any knowlwdge of htm would i be able to create  a webpage
[00:40]  * Pelo thinks Jack_Sparrow should have used his quiet voice
[00:40] <Fryguy--> arvind_khadri: nvu, but please learn proper html it's not that hard
[00:40] <PaulOgle591> actually one more question
[00:40] <Anderson> I am trying to get RW to my external HDD, originally formatted in windows, type HPFS/NTFS. I ran ntfsfix and it gave back some errors. So I tried mounting and creating a folder. No luck. I tried running ntfsfix on the mounted device, and it says 'Refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sda1.' Can any explain what is not working for me?
[00:41] <PaulOgle591> is HD audio support planned for the next release?
[00:41] <PaulOgle591> i plan on moving my HP to linux
[00:41] <yowshi> unop_, http://pastebin.com/m36f39dde
[00:41] <dep> MUS4SHIII: Good luck, personally I just wish they'd code the show desktop button so that it didn't screw up things so badly. Meh.
[00:41] <Fryguy--> PaulOgle591: define "hd audio"
[00:41] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > Anderson check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:41] <yowshi> those are the three lines i wrote down
[00:41] <PaulOgle591> HD audio drivers
[00:41] <yowshi> the only three uncommented lines
[00:41] <Cahone> Fryguy--, I cant seem to pick an ati driver  (which i have tried) that will work.  for example i want to run in 1280 x 1024 and all i can get is 800 x 600 and no dual monitors either
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> :)   Jack must be tired.. yo are right
[00:41] <MatToufoutu> heya happy linuxians :)
[00:41] <unop_> arvind_khadri, ooweb is the openoffice counterpart to frontpage -- its a WYSIWYG editor
[00:41] <arvind_khadri> Fryguy--, :) am taking a chance on it,will surely learn
[00:41] <Fryguy--> PaulOgle591: what makes hd audio drivers different from normal audio drivers
[00:41] <yowshi> the rest is default stuff telling you what the file is
[00:41] <arvind_khadri> unop_, thanks a lot
[00:41] <captaingeek> anyone know how to make a gdm session that uses compiz as the windows manager
[00:41] <DJ_HaMsTa> i just installed ubuntu on an amd 64 machine, using ati radeon xpress 200 built in vid card, had to install under safe mode because normal mode would not display screen, now when i boot it wont display anything unless i enter recovery mode how can i fix this problem ?
[00:41] <orbisvicis> arvind_khadri, use kompozer, not nvu (which is no longer maintained .. ?)
[00:41] <captaingeek> ???
[00:41] <Anderson> Pelo, Oh, I see. So even though it is mounted as read write, I have to use my ntfs-3g program to mount it.
[00:41] <Fryguy--> Cahone: so then edit xorg.conf so that it does what you want
[00:42] <cogeno> Is anyone here familiar with systemimager?
[00:42] <arvind_khadri> orbisvicis, i use GNOME :)
[00:42] <cogeno> (Sorry for the repeat, but it got bumped up awfully fast)
[00:42] <Pelo> EVERYONE , as you can see the channel is quite busy tonight, please don'T use the enter key for puntucation and use the name of the person you are talking to in each line
[00:42] <Fryguy--> DJ_HaMsTa: edit your xorg.conf file, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver
[00:42]  * yowshi is in need of a smoke
[00:42] <PaulOgle591> I don't know exactly, I just know you have to fix settings in order to implement it.
[00:42] <Cahone> Fryguy--, ok well i dont know how to do that "per say"
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !intelhda
[00:42] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[00:42] <dep> captaingeek: gdm doesn't use a window manager at all
[00:42] <Fryguy--> Cahone: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:42] <MatToufoutu> does anyone knows a driver for a "hercules classic silver" webcam? i couldnt find any....
[00:42] <captmorgan> Hey guys I am back, I tried what the ubot suggested that I put into the terminal and that didnt work, I didnt realize what ctrl-alt-F2 would do and wasnt prepared so I didnt have the commands I needed to enter whn I got there and had to shut down
[00:42] <orbisvicis> arvind_khadri, we all make exception i guess. I feel its the only decent wysiwyg html editor ... so youll have to install kde deps
[00:43] <PaulOgle591> I know. But for the next release will the make it so you don't have to "fix" intel HDA
[00:43] <unop_> yowshi, you have the strangest problem i've seen in a long time
[00:43] <Fryguy--> Cahone: and xorg.conf is very well documented, has it's own manpage, 10s of thousands of google results, and I believe examples in /usr/share/doc
[00:43] <yowshi> i think this is related to my .dmrc problem
[00:43] <yowshi> it says my home folder aint owned exclusivly by me
[00:43] <Anderson> I ran ntfs-3g and I got back an error that mounting that device is not supported, with a list of windows fixes and ntfsfix options to correct it.
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulOgle591, Please understand, I am not trying to be rude.  We want to you use and enjoy ubuntu.  But in a virtual file inside widows... you wont get the full effect of how nice it is
[00:43] <unop_> yowshi, is this as a result of something you did, changing permissions, etc?
[00:43] <Anderson> I have already ran ntfsfix
[00:43] <arvind_khadri> orbisvicis, :) i would first try nuuv nd then maybe komposer
[00:43] <Fryguy--> PaulOgle591: what specific problems are you having with "hd audio" i have an "hd audio" card and it works just fine
[00:43] <yowshi> i was trying to change permissions around in wine
[00:43] <Pelo> Anderson, my mistake I didn'T read all the way throught,  unmount it ,  sudo umount /mountpoint ,  then remount it just as a regular ntfs drive   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mountpint ,  then run that thing again
[00:43] <yowshi> in the .wine folder
[00:44] <arvind_khadri> orbisvicis, am nt against KDE!!!!
[00:44] <yowshi> using pcmanfm
[00:44] <yowshi> err pc file manager
[00:44] <unop_> yowshi, is your username YOSHI (mind the caps) ?
[00:44] <Cahone> Fryguy--, ok i will try to learn about it
[00:44] <yowshi> yes it is
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulOgle591, It has more to do with hda implementations of the standard by different manufacturers.. but it will be better with each release
[00:44] <Anderson> Pelo, run ntfs-3g after already mounted?
[00:44] <captaingeek> does anyone know how to make a session that uses gnome/compiz and can be selected at the login screen under options > session?
[00:44] <PaulOgle591> ok
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Cahone: as for dual monitor support, be sure to enable xinerama and use a window manager that supports it (both compiz and metacity do0
[00:44] <Cahone> Fryguy--, it pulled up a blank document when i entered it in the terminal
[00:44] <unop_> yowshi, ok -- can you ouput this --  whoami; groups
[00:44] <yowshi> thing is even the root account cant use sudo
[00:44] <TXTad> oh, good...I see dual monitor talk
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Cahone: then you didn't enter it correctly
[00:45] <unop_> yowshi, ehh?
[00:45] <Pelo> Anderson,forget about ntfs-3g,  unmount the drive and remount it without write support
[00:45] <TXTad> any idea why I can't have compiz with Xinerama?
[00:45] <whitehat_> hello ppl
[00:45] <Fryguy--> Cahone: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:45] <yowshi> yoshi
[00:45] <yowshi> yoshi adm dialout cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[00:45] <Cahone> Fryguy--, thats what i thought
[00:45] <Pelo> afk
[00:45] <meheren> yowshi, root has no need of sude
[00:45] <whitehat_> if i was a mexican midget
[00:45] <meheren> *sudo lol
[00:45] <whitehat_> I would use windows
[00:45] <MatToufoutu> does anyone knows a driver for a "hercules classic silver" webcam? i couldnt find any....  (i appologize for repeating, but it's going so fast here!!)
[00:45] <whitehat_> yes......exactlent
[00:45] <PaulOgle591> what is the release date for Heron
[00:45] <Fryguy--> PaulOgle591: i think april 27 is the tentative date
[00:45] <meheren> yowshi, sudo is like a fake root account
[00:45] <yowshi> yes but it shouldnt get permission denied when you run sudo should it?
[00:45] <icesword> 4.26
[00:45] <Fryguy--> i'm sure it's on the wiki/all over the internet
[00:46] <unop_> yowshi, i seriously suspect by changing permissions you might have upset permissions on other system files
[00:46] <Anderson> Pelo,  I can't write to it, which is what I need.
[00:46] <jimbojw> easy question: i just installed memcached, and now it appears the user 'nobody' is firing it up during the boot process - i grepped through /etc for "memcached" and found references in rc0.d through rc6.d - what should I change in which file to make it not start up by default?
[00:46] <jimbojw> thanks in advance
[00:46] <yowshi> oh crapshot
[00:46] <unop_> yowshi, when you sudo as root what error message do you get?
[00:46] <yowshi> permission denied to sudoers
[00:46] <icesword> root
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, what about setting a new root user password ?
[00:47] <unop_> meheren, root needs sudo to be able to login as other users like with su
[00:47] <Pelo> Anderson, I thought you were having problems because the drive was corrupted or someting and you ran ntfsfix to fix it but it wouldn'T because it was read/write,  so you unmount,  run ntfsfix again , then remount it and use it
[00:47] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, ummm huh?
[00:47] <Fryguy--> unop_: uh, don't think so
[00:47] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know of a hotkey that lets me switch audio streams in mplayer during play? I have MythTV installed with the default player set as mPlayer. My Anime is mostly dual language audio tracks and I would like to switch with the remote.
[00:47] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: #mplayer
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, understand, it is something to be avoided... but in this particular case it might work
[00:47] <MUS4SHIII> thanx
[00:47] <meheren> unop_, yeah did'nt think of that but why would root ever need to be logged in as other users...
[00:47] <void^> MUS4SHIII: # for me
[00:47] <unop_> Fryguy--, when you are logged in as root -- how do you change to another user?
[00:48] <Pelo> Anderson, if i didn'T understand your problem just ignore me
[00:48] <Fryguy--> unop_: su <otherusersname>
[00:48] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, yeah i dojt know how to do that
[00:48] <meheren> su user
[00:48] <jimbojw> or, should I install "bum" as per the factoid to control my init scripts - or is there a widely used gui editor
[00:48] <yowshi> or wqhat to do with it once i have done that
[00:48] <void^> MUS4SHIII: doesn't work on the fly with ogm though
[00:48] <Anderson> Pelo, No you are on the right track, but ntfsfix returns errors and remounting does nothing.
[00:48] <unop_> Fryguy--, right, exactly what i mean -- sudo provides that alternative
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, one sec
[00:48] <Anderson> Pelo, Also, even after ntfsfix ntfs-3g gives errors.
[00:48] <Pelo> Anderson, run ntsf fix while the drive is unmounted
[00:48] <Fryguy--> unop_: sudo is a glorified shortcut to su -c, if you are already root, sudo does nothing
[00:48] <Anderson> Pelo, No change
[00:49] <MUS4SHIII> :( that's dissapointing
[00:49] <Super_Napalm> can anyone hear me I was on earlier trying to get my question answered but it was ignored, so either no-one knows or I don't have Xchat configured right...
[00:49] <Fryguy--> as root, sudo su [user] and su [user] will do exactly the same thing
[00:49] <yowshi> we can hear you
[00:49] <Super_Napalm> ah kk
[00:49] <MUS4SHIII> are there any other players that will?
[00:49] <Pelo> Anderson, can you read the drive if you mount it without ntfs-3g ?
[00:49]  * Dr_willis_ gives Super_Napalm  a cup of coffee
[00:49] <Super_Napalm> ^^ thx
[00:49] <unop_> Fryguy--, err, i dont agree sudo is a shortcut to su -c .. it's an entirely different executable providing better control of who can and cannot do things on the system
[00:49] <Anderson> Pelo, no, it won't even mount with ntfs-3g. If I mount it regularly I can read it though.
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, have you been following yowshi 's problem.  What about recovery mode, set a root password or reset it as the case may be...  would he then have the use of sudo again ..?
[00:50] <Fryguy--> unop_: it's a glorified shortcut to su -c
[00:50] <Anderson> Pelo, I am trying to back up my data on this computer so I can put a fresh install on.
[00:50] <Fryguy--> unop_: note the "glorified" part.  of course it's a different executable
[00:50] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, current solutions have revoleved around chmodding the sudo and sudoers file and editing the sudoers file
[00:50] <unop_> FrancoGG, i disagree -- really i do -- su -c has no interaction with /etc/sudoers (which is crucial in deciding which users and groups are given different levels of permissions)
[00:50] <Pelo> Anderson, uninstall ntfs-3g ( completely uninstall ) ,  delete the line from the fstab file,   reboot,  reintall ntfs-3g, try to remount the drive
[00:50] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, hold on , reading up
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, I saw that, and they have not seemed to work..
[00:51] <Super_Napalm> Okay, I got a problem starting up Half Life 2, everything downloaded and installed fine but when i try to launch it nothing happens, no intro video, menu or even an error message. Only thing it does do is change the resolution to 1024x768. Anyone know whats wrong?
[00:51] <Anderson> Pelo, Thanks I'll work that
[00:51] <yowshi> yep but nothing else has been suggested
[00:51] <Fryguy--> unop_: yes. i know this.  I didn't say sudo was a shortcut to su -c, i said it was a glorified shortcut to su -c.  it does the exact same thing with some additional security measures and other things that dont' really matter.  If you are already root, sudo does nothing.
[00:51] <arvind_khadri> unop_, where do i get ooweb
[00:51] <yowshi> i did try a gnome reset though
[00:51] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, can you summerize yowshi 's problem ? just the current status, I don'T need to know how he got there
[00:51] <yowshi> that was the very first suggestion
[00:51] <Fryguy--> Super_Napalm: wrong channel, try #wine
[00:52] <yowshi> i cant sudo
[00:52] <gligorhoria> hellow i have e tehnical question, i have an old pc and i want to change the timer interups frequency from 100 hz, to aroud 50 or 66. Are these values safe? And can i change this without recompiling the kernell? (it takes aboute 3 h and i run a server...)
[00:52] <Super_Napalm> ah kk
[00:52] <Super_Napalm> sorry for bothering :P
[00:52] <yowshi> i have permission denied to the sudoers file
[00:52] <Pelo> yowshi, are you sure your caplock is not enabled or something silly like that &?
[00:52] <yowshi> ls -l $(which sudo) spits out as being owned by root root
[00:52] <Fryguy--> yowshi: then you aren't root
[00:52] <cahone> Fryguy--, So what driver should i use for the RX1600Pro Card?  I know you said it is ATI but i tried the different ATI drivers in Ubuntu and they didnt work really
[00:52] <unop_> Fryguy--, you can control what sudo does in the context of root -- which is why /etc/sudoers needs an explicit entry for root
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, he lost the ability to use sudo password denied I believe
[00:52] <gligorhoria> sudo nano sudofilelist
[00:52] <arvind_khadri> Fryguy--, , where do i get ooweb
[00:52] <Fryguy--> arvind_khadri: >?
[00:52] <yowshi> you dont need to be root to use sudo
[00:52] <Bleckm> I'm having a problem when booting with the Ubuntu LiveCD, it's not going straight into Gnome, its bringing up a login prompt, any idea whats wrong?
[00:52] <Fryguy--> arvind_khadri: why are you asking me?
[00:52] <yowshi> it isnt even asking for a password just telling me permission denied
[00:53] <unop_> Fryguy--, and if thats the case, you can prevent root from using sudo too
[00:53] <anteaya> i am working through a tutorial and have looked at my user.log for the first time.  I have been using sudo to execute commands when necessary and if i am reading the .log file correctly it appears that when i use sudo to execute a command i don't drop back down to a regular user afterward.  I am i doing something wrong, or perhaps i am reading user.log incorrectly.
[00:53] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  I think nikrud  might be better able to solve that
[00:53] <Pelo> yowshi, is this your computer ?
[00:53] <yowshi> yes
[00:53] <unop_> arvind_khadri, as long as you have open office installed -- ooweb is available -- CTRL+F2 and type in ooweb
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud will be on after work
[00:53] <arvind_khadri> Fryguy--, oops sorry,ok where do i find nvu
[00:53] <yowshi> i can get into the root account so yes
[00:53] <Fryguy--> unop_: what does that do? nothing....  the ENTIRE PURPOSE of sudo is to elevate a users priviledge to root level for 1 command.  If you are already root, elevating roots priviledge to root does nothing
[00:53] <Pelo> yowshi, can you go into  menu > systm >admin > users ?
[00:53] <Fryguy--> arvind_khadri: www.google.com/?q=nvu
[00:53] <l3on> Hi all... someone know why this "while" is broken?
[00:54] <yowshi> probavly not
[00:54] <nikrud> yowshi: have you edited /etc/sudoers at any time?
[00:54] <Fryguy--> l3on: this is #ubuntu, not #programming or #shellscripting
[00:54] <Pelo> l3on, we need an actualyu question ?
[00:54] <yowshi> since it requires a sudo thing i did nikrud do that
[00:54] <jimbojw> can anyone help me understand the difference between /etc/rc#.d/K##blah and /etc/rc#.d/S##blah  - I'm happy to rtfm, just don't know what manpage to read or what to google for
[00:54] <yowshi> and no i cant get into users and groups from this account5
[00:54] <l3on> Fryguy--: ok :)
[00:54] <nikrud> yowshi: that wasn't a very clear statement. What sudo thing?
[00:54] <Lord_VaMpyro> when go out the 8.04 beta?
[00:54] <yowshi> i would need to logout and back in under the root account
[00:54] <arvind_khadri> unop_, thanks...ooweb aint available in GUI menu
[00:55] <Fryguy--> yowshi: as a user, obviously you can't edit a file owned by root.  That should be obvious
[00:55] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  S = started , K - killed. One is ran when a service starts, other ran when it shutdown.
[00:55] <nikrud> yowshi: no, if you have a root account, you can do   su root  in a terminal
[00:55] <Pelo> jimbojw, they are run levels,  the apps in each of those folders will load in turn
[00:55] <danand> gligorhoria - are you talking about the kernel rtc?
[00:55] <jimbojw> thanks Dr_willis
[00:55] <yowshi> ahha i did not know that
[00:55] <unop_> Fryguy--, err no .. sudo isnt always about elevating priviledges, you can use it to drop privilidges (or should i say, logging in as different users) too -- and if you prevent root from using sudo (like how yowshi has somehow done) sudo does something under root -- you get me?
[00:55] <jimbojw> thanks Pelo
[00:55] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  check out the various 'sysv' type docs for more info. the # is the Order they get started in.
[00:55] <nikrud> yowshi: so, what exactly did you do to /etc/sudoers?
[00:55] <Bleckm> Does the LiveCD have a default user/password that it auto logs into normally?
[00:55] <Pelo> jimbojw, there is actualy a read me text in eacch folder that explain a lot about those rc sthing
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, yes
[00:56] <Fryguy--> unop_: name one thing I would want to do as root that I can only do by using sudo first
[00:56] <yowshi> i added yoshi ALL=(ALL) ALL
[00:56] <Lord_VaMpyro> can i download the beta release of hardy heron?
[00:56] <gligorhoria> danand rtc = (real time clock)?
[00:56] <jimbojw> thanks Dr_willis_ / Pelo - how do I determine which of those is responsible for enacting the service I want to disable?
[00:56] <Fryguy--> Lord_VaMpyro: join #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <yowshi> which basically means i added my account
[00:56] <Pelo> Lord_VaMpyro, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <danand> gligorhoria - yes
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, I believe ubuntu is the user name
[00:56] <jimbojw> i'm guessing runlevel 2
[00:56] <Lord_VaMpyro> ok
[00:56] <nikrud> yowshi: hm.   did you use visudo to edit it?
[00:56] <jimbojw> thanks Pelo - i'll check out the readmes
[00:56] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  lots of reading ? :)
[00:56] <Pelo> jimbojw, you need to look into them an check the names of the fies
[00:56] <Bleckm> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, any idea what the password might be, or how change it?
[00:56] <yowshi> yes i did nikrud
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, you dont..
[00:56] <whaaa> hi guys. my windows have no toolbars/statusbar. how do i fix this?
[00:57] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  ssh = ssh, samba = the samba service. and so forth... :) i find the names rather straight forwared
[00:57] <unop_> Fryguy--, when you say "sudo first"? -- does that include things like "sudo cat /etc/sudoers" ?
[00:57] <Fryguy--> whaaa: run a window manager
[00:57] <nikrud> yowshi: do   sudo -i  as your regular user, and put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:57] <Pelo> whaaa, check in the display menu
[00:57] <Fryguy--> unop_: sure
[00:57] <Bleckm> Well, unfortunately I'm booting up the LiveCD, and it giving me a login prompt.
[00:57] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  most are links to the other actual startup scripts also. do a 'ls -l'
[00:57] <whaaa> i am running compiz
[00:57] <yowshi> this problem started when i was trying to fix some permission problems with my .wine folder using pc file manager
[00:57] <Pelo> whaaa, ask in #compiz
[00:57] <jimbojw> Dr_willis_ - yeah, i just need to turn one off - I've done this before, i just don't remember how, nor where I read about how to do that
[00:57] <unop_> Fryguy--, right, there's one example then :) -- you need to do that as root but sudo first
[00:57] <aldarsior> hello
[00:57] <whaaa> Pelo: thanks
[00:57] <yowshi> cant nikrud
[00:57] <Fryguy--> unop_: cating /etc/sudoers as root is going to be successful under any circumstance, you don't need to sudo to cat a file
[00:57] <Bleckm> I'm guess there is another problem, but I just used the CD to install it on the box I'm currently using.
[00:57] <aldarsior> Is there a bittorrent client for linux with remote http control?
[00:58] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i
[00:58] <yowshi> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[00:58] <jimbojw> don't know if I need to edit a symlink, or delete a file
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, ah.. ok.. it isnt seeing your video card correctly would be my guess...
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  thers varuous 'sysv' front end tools. you can use.
[00:58] <lordleemo> yowshi: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo write down on paper what you need  then boot into recovery mode
[00:58] <aldarsior> I'm worried about constantly running a vnc server
[00:58] <__infurnus__> does /etc/hosts.deny overwrite hosts.allow e.g. in hosts.allow sshd: ALL but in hosts.deny ALL: ALL
[00:58] <nikrud> yowshi: is that the only error line (I was looking for all the errors)
[00:58] <Fryguy--> aldarsior: there are several
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> jimbojw,  or theres some command line tools also.. or you can do it manually with the links
[00:58] <Pelo> jimbojw,  that,s waht the read me files explain
[00:58] <yowshi> yes it is nikrud
[00:58] <Bleckm> Oh thats weird, I could've sworn they are using the the same card, GeForce 7300.
[00:58] <gligorhoria> danand hmm i'm not sure, the only thing i can tell u thow that ther is a setting when compiling the kernell that configures how many times the procesor stop to reschedual the proceses and send out the data that it procesed, more like pframes per second
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> aldarsior,  ktorrent has a web interface plugin.
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, nvidia 8000 series?  64 bit maybe
[00:58] <nikrud> yowshi: what does   ls -l  /etc/sudoers  say?
[00:58] <unop_> Fryguy--, right .. ok, i see what you mean -- being logged on as root, why do you need sudo -- well, you might want to login as another user (in the way you use su)
[00:58] <Fryguy--> aldarsior: rtorrent works well for remote control (run it in gnu screen and reconnect via ssh), azureus has a web interface, i think deluge does.  Or you can remotely forward x applications using xpra
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> aldarsior,  rtorrent in a screen session is also doable. :)
[00:59] <dep> __infurnus__: deny overwrites allow, or in apache speak: ORDER allow, deny
[00:59] <jimbojw> thanks guys - i'll check out the readmes
[00:59] <Fryguy--> if i'm root, and I want to log in as another user, I use su, not sudo
[00:59] <aldarsior> Yeah
[00:59] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /etc/sudoers
[00:59] <yowshi> -r--r----- 1 root root 423 2008-03-19 20:25 /etc/sudoers
[00:59] <anteaya> i am looking at my user.log file for the first time and it seems to me that when i sudo, i am not dropping back down to regular user status but staying as root.  Is there a way to confirm this?
[00:59] <aldarsior> I had a little trouble with rtorrent in the past
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, try this  At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[00:59] <aldarsior> but that was a long time ago
[00:59] <__infurnus__> dep: not apache.../etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny which takes priority?
[00:59] <aldarsior> thanks a lot
[00:59] <nikrud> yowshi: next, what does  groups   say
[00:59] <Bleckm> Thanks, I'll try that.
[00:59] <yowshi> full command please
[00:59] <nikrud> yowshi:   groups
[00:59] <dep> __infurnus__: deny will take priority, sorry, I just was making a bad apache joke before
[01:00] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ groups
[01:00] <yowshi> yoshi adm dialout cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[01:00] <__infurnus__> dep: ahh lol thanks
[01:00] <yowshi> i tried to ls -l groups LOL
[01:00] <Pelo> anteaya, sudo stays enabled  for a few minutes so you don't hve to enter the passw for every single command during a long series
[01:00] <nikrud> !who | yowshi (when the channel scrolls fast, it helps)
[01:00] <ubotu> yowshi (when the channel scrolls fast, it helps): As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:00] <Fryguy--> aldarsior: probably pebkac, it runs wonderfully
[01:00] <anteaya> Pelo: thank you
[01:00] <anteaya> Pelo: can i execute a command to force a drop?
[01:01] <nikrud> yowshi:    have you edited    /etc/sudoers   and removed the line you added?
[01:01] <Pelo> anteaya, probably,  try man sudo , there should be options to let you do that in there
[01:01] <anteaya> Pelo: thank you
[01:01] <keithclark> I seem to be experiencing an extremely long bootup time on my laptop with Ubuntu 7.10.  Any ideas?
[01:01] <aldarsior> Fryguy--: No, I'm pretty sure it was missing some very basic feature
[01:01] <lufis> does hardy have an smp kernel or what?
[01:01] <Fryguy--> aldarsior: i haven't experienced that
[01:01] <aldarsior> of course, what's very basic to me could be obscure and unnecessary to somebody else
[01:01] <yowshi> yes i have nikrud
[01:01] <Pelo> keithclark, bios power saving features slowing your cpu and/or hdd ?
[01:01] <Fryguy--> lufis: wrong channel, join #ubuntu+1 (and yes it does)
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark, remove splash from the grub command line.. see if that helps
[01:02] <rdd> yeah xp boots faster than ubuntu on my toshiba laptop
[01:02] <meheren> rdd, ! wow
[01:02] <yowshi> nikrud, and it tells me the exact same thing. permission denied
[01:02] <yowshi> to sudoers
[01:02] <gligorhoria> Pelo not realy
[01:02] <nikrud> yowshi:   su  root ,  visudo /etc/sudoers
[01:02] <yowshi> nikrud, i just did that
[01:03] <Fryguy--> yowshi: then you are editing the file
[01:03] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow, I will modify.
[01:03] <Anderson> Pelo, no luck
[01:03] <Bleckm> Jack_Sparrow, it seems to be slowing down at a point and saying I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark, It seems to have helped some people
[01:03] <Bleckm> Anything to worry about?
[01:03] <nikrud> yowshi: and it said permission denied ??
[01:03] <Pelo> Anderson, hmm, are you sure
[01:03] <yowshi> and you dont need the /etc/sudoers bit and yes nikrud even after removing what i added it says permission denied
[01:03] <Bleckm> And now a lot of SQUASHFS errors.
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, it should hang there for two passes then go through
[01:03] <danand> gligorhoria - your talking about interupts right ? Got to say I'm no expert on this but i think were talking about the same thing :) try man rtc. you can control through the sysctl command ie sysctl dev/rtc/max-user-freq=1024 and view settings in /proc and /sys. Other than that i'm not too sure :) Hope that helps
[01:03] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow, I hope it works for me as well!  Thanks.
[01:03] <yowshi> nikrud, but i can edit from the root no problem
[01:03] <Pelo> Anderson, I mean are you sure you deleted the fstab line for your ntfs drive and made ntfs-config make a new one ?
[01:04] <Anderson> Pelo, Yea, I uninstalled, there wasn't even an entry in fstab for the dev rebooted and reinstalled. tried to mount and no luck
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark, good luck.. let me know if it works eh
[01:04] <nikrud> yowshi: please, I'm trying to check things ... , and thanks for answering the actual question :)
[01:04] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow, will do. (I just have to wait for it to boot first!!!)
[01:04] <Anderson> Pelo, tried ntfsfix again to no avail
[01:04] <yowshi> nikrud, no problem i am trying to answer as best i can
[01:04] <nikrud> yowshi: next ,  ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:04] <Pelo> Anderson, mignht not be listed asa a dev might be listed using the uuid ,  check the fstab again and try to look for a line with fuse in it
[01:05] <yowshi>  ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[01:05] <yowshi> -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 106336 2007-06-15 08:54 /usr/bin/sudo
[01:05] <yowshi>  nikrud
[01:05] <Pelo> Anderson, or a line with ntfs-3g
[01:06] <Anderson> Pelo, the dev doesn't show up at all, as fuse as /dev/sda1 or as ntfs-3g
[01:06] <Pelo> Anderson, please pastebin your fstab file so I cna have a look
[01:06] <Pelo> !pastebin > Anderson
[01:06] <gligorhoria> danand The ubuntu server kernel is set to a timer interrupt rate of 100 Hz (CONFIG_HZ=100, CONFIG_HZ_100=y), which means it accepts 100 interrupts per second. can i change this on the fly (without recompiling the kernell?)  is this it? ty for the first answer i will try that
[01:07] <nikrud> yowshi: I'm stumped at the moment. I'm gonna google a bit
[01:07] <gligorhoria> danand yes indea i think we were on the same subject :D
[01:07] <Bleckm> Jack_Sparrow, same thing happens, starts up Gnome, and gives me a login box, I'll try the other fix you recommended after removing quiet and splash now.
[01:08] <yowshi> i may have like unop say changed various file systems with one click when i was trying to much with my .wine folder nikrud
[01:08] <isleshocky77> If I have a program which is giving me a Segmentaion Fault, what's the best way to figure out what's going on?
[01:08] <slylock> hello guys i am having some problem here
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, one sec.. want to try something
[01:08] <yowshi> manewhile i need a smoke bbs
[01:08] <slylock> when i run
[01:08] <slylock> apt-get build-dep libqt4-core
[01:08] <Fryguy--> isleshocky77: learn to program and read crashdump/stacktrace
[01:08] <Pelo> slylock, please don't use the enter key for punctuation
[01:08] <nikrud> yowshi: could be. But, with sudo set suid, sudoers with the correct read permissions ....
[01:08] <Anderson> Pelo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60243/
[01:08] <isleshocky77> Fryguy--: I know how to program.  It's subversion which is doing it on commits
[01:08] <Pelo> Anderson, hold on
[01:08] <danand> gligorhoria - I'm not too sure... :D - try cat cat /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq ??
[01:09] <Fryguy--> isleshocky77: so look in /var/crash
[01:09] <Anderson> Pelo, k
[01:09] <dep> *grumble* the only problem with being named 'dep' is anytime anyone talks about build-dep it thinks they're talking to you
[01:09] <isleshocky77> Fryguy--: Thanks. Will do that now.
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults  not sure if you will need sudo.. in live..  try startx at the end of that..
[01:09] <aldarsior> Is there anything like Debian-testing for ubuntu?
[01:09] <Flannel> dep: write a more strict regexp?
[01:09] <Atma26> is this the right channel for basic questions?
[01:09] <Flannel> Atma26: yep
[01:09] <afabian> What about Johnny Depp?  or a bank deposit?  Or a depo shot.  Or the Home Depot.
[01:09] <Pelo> Anderson, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:09] <aldarsior> because while the current version of deluge appears to have a web interface, the version currently in ubuntu doesn't appear to
[01:09] <aldarsior> (or I can't find it)
[01:10] <Anderson> Pelo, K
[01:10] <Flannel> aldarsior: The dev version, or the stable version are your two choices
[01:10] <slylock>  apt-get build-dep libqt4-core
[01:10] <Bleckm> Sorry for a dumb question, but how do I drop to a terminal from the x login screen?
[01:10] <Pelo> slylock, waht is the issue ?
[01:10] <dep> Flannel: yeah, I should, grrr xchat =)
[01:10] <aldarsior> Flannel: is there a sample apt/sources.list file for the dev version?
[01:10] <slylock> Reading package lists... Done
[01:10] <slylock> Building dependency tree
[01:10] <slylock> Reading state information... Done
[01:10] <slylock> E: Unable to find a source package for qt4-x11
[01:10] <Atma26> i keep getting a "cannot eject volume error", but I have no discs in my disk drives or usb volumes attached, any ideas?
[01:10] <icesword> ctrl+alt+f1?
[01:10] <Fryguy--> Bleckm: ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6, or just run a terminal emulator in x (gnome-terminal for example)
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, not a dumb question at all.
[01:10] <Pelo> slylock,  then instal the dependency first
[01:11] <unop_> nikrud, i wonder if the permissions of any of sudo's libraries might have something to do with it (/usr/lib/*sudo*)
[01:11] <Anderson> Pelo, couldn't find it in APT, what section is it in?
[01:11] <Bleckm> Thanks.
[01:11] <Flannel> !hardy | aldarsior
[01:11] <ubotu> aldarsior: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, Has this same cd worked on another machine?
[01:11] <slylock> Pelo: i cant find the qt-x11
[01:11] <Pelo> Anderson, just type sudo apt-get install ntfs-config in a terminal
[01:11] <Bleckm> Yeah, the one I'm using now actually.
[01:11] <unop_> yowshi, what does this output?  ls -l /usr/lib/*sudo*
[01:11] <Pelo> slylock, did y ou check using synaptic ?
[01:11] <Flannel> slylock: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:11] <DrIP> hi all
[01:11] <DrIP>  i need to get my ubuntu server as a wireless gateway (where wireless has my internet and LAN has my other computers attached to the same router)
[01:11] <Anderson> Pelo, That's what I did. It said it couldn't find the package
[01:12] <Pelo> Anderson, do you ahve all the repositories enabled ?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Bleckm, I need to start dinner.. someone elase will have an answer for you .. after I eat I amy think of something
[01:12] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow, Woohoo!  From 3 minutes to 30 seconds.  Thanks!
[01:12] <Bleckm> And its worked on the machine I'm using it on before, but I installed another harddrive so, being that I'm more familiar with windows I did all the formatting with parition magic, and decided to clean out the ubuntu install and put a fresh one on the new harddrive.
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark, happy now
[01:12] <Anderson> I think so, hold on
[01:12] <Bleckm> Thanks for helping.
[01:12] <nikrud> unop_: I wouldn't expect it, since sudo is the parent (or whatever the tech term is)
[01:12] <slylock> Pelo: yea nothing there
[01:12] <isleshocky77> Fryguy--: There is not /var/crash
[01:12] <slylock> Pelo: it cant search anythign there
[01:12] <keithclark> Jack_Sparrow, I'm very happy.
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> keithclark, enjoy..  Im off to start dinner
[01:12] <Pelo> slylock, qt-x11-free
[01:12] <Flannel> Anderson: Is this feisty or gutsy?  You need universe enabled.
[01:13] <Anderson> Pelo, main restricted, universe multiverse,
[01:13] <tim3049> Hello...can anyone give me a shove in the right direction with Samba?
[01:13] <Anderson> Flannel, Edgy
[01:13] <yowshi> back nekrid
[01:13] <yowshi> needed a smoke
[01:13] <Fryguy--> isleshocky77: no idea then, that's where my crash dumps go
[01:13] <Flannel> Anderson: Ah!  Well, that'd be why.
[01:13] <Fryguy--> tim3049: #samba
[01:13] <Pelo> Anderson, back port,  3rd tab
[01:13] <Anderson> Flannel, hence the attempt to put a fresh install
[01:13] <Anderson> Pelo, gotcha
[01:13] <tim3049> Fryguy: thanks!
[01:13] <Flannel> Anderson: Sorry, I just got here
[01:14] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/*sudo*
[01:14] <yowshi> total 12
[01:14] <yowshi> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  787 2007-06-15 08:54 sudo_noexec.la
[01:14] <yowshi> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6448 2007-06-15 08:54 sudo_noexec.so
[01:14] <yowshi> nekrud unop_
[01:14] <FloodBot2> yowshi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <slylock> Pelo: letme try it
[01:14] <Pelo> Anderson, not sure it ' actualy available in edgy,  that,s quite a while back
[01:14] <Pelo> slylock, sudo apt-cache search packagename is your friend
[01:14] <Flannel> Pelo: it's not.  Feisty and Gutsy only.
[01:14] <cameodemon> anyone successfully used an ~/.xsession file with gutsy? its been a real pain
[01:15] <Anderson> Pelo, Yeah, I couldn't update while I was in Iraq. It's not in backport either
[01:15] <unop_> yowshi, ls -ld /root
[01:15] <Pelo> Flannel, we found the problem then,  he'll need to install his rw ntfs support the hardway
[01:15] <DrIP> anyone?
[01:15] <slylock> Pelo: its a bit confusing
[01:15] <slylock> Pelo: i was getting error related to glib and also x11
[01:15] <Pelo> Anderson, you'll need to install ntsf write capability the hardway
[01:15] <yowshi> drwxr-xr-x 44 root root 4096 2008-03-19 20:36 /root (unop_ nekrud)
[01:16] <yowshi> i added the () so as to not flood
[01:16] <Anderson> Pelo, I'm always up for a challenge.
[01:16] <Pelo> slylock,  apt-cache search glib
[01:16] <slylock> Pelo: but i cant find glib in the repo either
[01:16] <Pelo> Anderson, I don't know if I still ahve a link for hat , hold on
[01:16] <Anderson> Pelo, k
[01:16] <unop_> yowshi, so su works fine?
[01:16] <Pelo> Anderson, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[01:16] <yowshi> su works yes unop_
[01:16] <Flannel> Anderson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions  7.04 instructions
[01:16] <Flannel> Anderson: er, wait.  6.10, sorry.
[01:16] <yowshi> i actually have the root account in a second tab right now
[01:17] <Flannel> Anderson: Still on that page though.
[01:17] <Atma26> any ideas for mysterious "cannot eject volume" errors?
[01:17] <aldarsior> Flannel: thanks!
[01:17] <Flannel> Anderson: I suppose that'd actually be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[01:17] <slylock> Pelo: i found libglib1.2-dev
[01:17] <Pelo> slylock, anyreason you are not installing using synaptic ?
[01:17] <Pelo> slylock,  that would probabaly do
[01:17] <slylock> Pelo: i hope thats glib
[01:17] <kris_ph> what's the command to know the version of apache2 running?
[01:17] <unop_> yowshi, i really suspect that permissions upset on system files/dirs might be to blame .. I can't think of anything more
[01:18] <Anderson> Flannel, Pelo, alright I have some reading to do. Thanks for the help.
[01:18] <Flannel> kris_ph: apache2 -v
[01:18] <yowshi> unop_, how do i check and correct them though using the cli only
[01:18] <NMajik> How can I check why a port is open? I figure there should be a way using netstat but I don't know how
[01:18] <icesword> yowshi, nano /etc/sudoers,move to root all =all all,below it,add (username you want ) all =...,just like that root line
[01:18] <yowshi> unop_, i am preferential to guis since i typo so much
[01:18] <Fryguy--> NMajik: man netstat
[01:18] <Bleckm> I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 at the login prompt when Gnome starts on the liveCD and it says "Loading, please wait..."  Then repeats "User not known to the underlying authentication module" 11 times, and I can't type any commands.
[01:18] <Flannel> icesword, yowshi, DONT use nano.  ALWAYS use visudo
[01:19] <yowshi> icesword, huh
[01:19] <Pelo> Anderson, best of luck
[01:19] <icesword> Flannel, i cannot use vim
[01:19] <kris_ph>  Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) <<< is this the latest in the repo?
[01:19] <Fryguy--> Bleckm: what about ctrl-alt-f2
[01:19] <Flannel> icesword: visudo will use nano if that's your preferred editor.  But what are you trying to accomplish anyway?
[01:19] <yowshi> icesword, also i already tried adding my username it didnt work
[01:19] <Fryguy--> icesword: so learn it. it's not that hard.  I use it for 8+ hours a day
[01:19] <Bleckm> Took away the loading please wait, but has the errors repeat.
[01:19] <icesword> ok
[01:20] <Flannel> icesword: You're trying to add a user to be able to use sudo?
[01:20] <nikrud> unop_: yowshi I've been looking around with out any luck. I think you're on the right track unop_ but figuring out what ...
[01:20] <Flannel> kris_ph: In gutsy, yes.
[01:20] <NMajik> Fryguy--: That's all greek to me
[01:20] <unop_> yowshi, you'd need to compare permissions of each and every file against some sort of baseline -- let me think about this
[01:20] <Fryguy--> NMajik: that's unfortunate.  it looks like english to me
[01:21] <lilyth> why can I record from my line in with 'arecord' but not be able to get to my device with /dev/dsp or hw:0,0?
[01:21] <yowshi> unop_, each and EVERY file in noth my hard drives?
[01:21] <Fryguy--> NMajik: google + documentation is your friend.  this is #ubuntu not #ihaverandomproblemswithcoreunixcommandsandcantreaddocumentation
[01:21] <yowshi> both*
[01:21] <kris_ph> Flannel: running sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade apache2 once the latest stable version is already available in the repo, right?
[01:21] <adrian_2002ca> i was wondering if the ubuntu web page https://help.ubuntu.com/  is also open source
[01:21] <NMajik> Fryguy--: I've checked that channel; I'm the only one there, I expect there should be more people
[01:21] <digin4> where can i get ubuntu studio themes?
[01:21] <Fryguy--> kris_ph: assuming you updated your repo using apt-get update, yes
[01:22] <Bleckm> From googling it seems like the CD might be corrupt, I'll just burn another one.
[01:22] <unop_> yowshi, well, in every directory that matters atleast, yes -- let me see what i can script up
[01:22] <Pelo> digin4, try www.gnome-look.org
[01:22] <Flannel> kris_ph: Gutsy will *always* have 2.2.4.  It will still recieve bugfixes/security updates though.
[01:22] <Fryguy--> digin4: apt-cache search ubuntu studio
[01:22] <adrian_2002ca> (can i use the style to make my own web page?)???
[01:22] <Pelo> afk
[01:22] <Flannel> kris_ph: So, depending on what you mean by that question, maybe.
[01:22] <tim3049> Looks like everyone in #samba is looking for answers as well. I'm trying to figure out why when I run "sudu apt-get install samba" that I get the error "Package samba is not available..."
[01:22] <Fryguy--> digin4: will list you all of the icons, menu,s graphics, themes, etc that you want
[01:22] <yowshi> thank you unop_ and nekrud and everyone else who has tried to help
[01:22] <digin4> thank you :)
[01:23] <kris_ph> Flannel: I've seen in the official site that the latest version is 2.2.6....
[01:23] <Flannel> tim3049: pastebin your sources.list
[01:23] <Flannel> kris_ph: Thats correct.  Gutsy will never have 2.2.6
[01:23] <yowshi> last time i tell pcmanfm to apply permissions to every folder in wine
[01:23] <yowshi> .wine*
[01:23] <kris_ph> Flannel: for what reason?
[01:23] <tim3049> Flannel: Sorry, i'm not sure what that means. Is there a link that will help me through it?
[01:23] <Fryguy--> kris_ph: releases of ubuntu don't upgrade major revisions of software
[01:24] <Flannel> kris_ph: Because thats how Ubuntu does stuff.  Versions are frozen for the life of any Ubuntu version.  They *do* get updates though. bugfixes and security updats.
[01:24] <Flannel> !paste | tim3049
[01:24] <ubotu> tim3049: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:24] <CTho> does gutsy install any port scanners by default?
[01:24] <Flannel> tim3049: /etc/apt/sources.list, copy it to pastebin, and give us the URL
[01:24] <Fryguy--> CTho: if you count nc + shell script as a portscanner, then yes
[01:25] <CyberCod> is there a specific ubuntu brainstorm irc channel?
[01:25] <minimec> tim3049: Verify your /etc/apt/sources.list. de/activate #CD-Source,the ubuntu sources.
[01:25] <kris_ph> Flannel: uhuh. for that reason then.. though some of the web servers running in earlier version of apache...it is still secured in the since that patches made available for higher versions could still be installed in their old version.. right
[01:26] <icesword> CyberCod, #ubuntu-ops?
[01:26] <Flannel> kris_ph: correct.
[01:26] <whitehat_> hey, guys big problem, my laptop has this error when trying to play sound (it's ubuntus problem cause debian works fine) it says
[01:26] <Flannel> kris_ph: Just any new features released in 2.2.6 wouldn't be present.
[01:26] <Fryguy--> kris_ph: security updates are made, major revisions aren't upgraded. simple.
[01:26] <whitehat_> that Gstreamer is not found
[01:26] <Fryguy--> kris_ph: you realize like, 1/3 of the internet, is still using apache 1.x, right?
[01:26] <whitehat_> that means that 2/3 isn't :)
[01:27] <CyberCod> what would happen if I were to add ubuntu repositories to another debian linux OS?  Would it work? Could I install software?
[01:27] <whitehat_> i can do math hahahaha
[01:27] <Fryguy--> CyberCod: no
[01:27] <yowshi> Flannel why not include 2.2.6?
[01:27] <kris_ph> Flannel: yeah.. I noticed that.. I thought honestly that their web servers are not secured anymore since their apache version is not updated
[01:27] <PriceChild> CyberCod: things will break
[01:27] <brent113> Question: When I try to shut down in Gutsy, the first time I click the shutdown button in the top right it takes ~50 seconds to bring up the shutdown/restart/other options window.  If I cancel out and do it again though it behaves normally.  Anyone have an idea?
[01:27] <fevel> has anyone seen the iphone development kit?
[01:27] <Fryguy--> yowshi: because 2.2.4 is what was available when gutsy was available, and is what the rel-engs decided to go with
[01:27] <CyberCod> Its in Virtualbox...
[01:27] <whitehat_> yes
[01:27] <yowshi> ah
[01:27] <whitehat_> fevel,yes
[01:27] <PriceChild> CyberCod: things will break
[01:27] <minimec> CyberCod: Not a good idea. Imagine all the dependency problems...
[01:27] <Flannel> yowshi: With a stable version number for all software, you can make sure it plays well together
[01:27] <CyberCod> won't break anything too bad
[01:27] <Fryguy--> brent113: did you go through your session and disable things? namely the power management daemon?
[01:28] <yowshi> yeah i get it
[01:28] <CyberCod> wouldn't dependencies be IN the repos?
[01:28] <brent113> fryguy: I'll try that
[01:28] <yowshi> hardy might have 2.2.6 then?
[01:28] <Fryguy--> brent113: no DON'T try that, it's what causes that problem
[01:28] <Fryguy--> yowshi: maybe
[01:28] <brent113> oh
[01:28] <fevel> whitehat_, its really easy with that "what you see is what you get" framework
[01:28] <CyberCod> Well, I wanna respin Ubuntu
[01:28] <Fryguy--> yowshi: join #ubuntu+1 for hardy issues
[01:28] <kris_ph> I guess hardy will have 2.2.6... :)
[01:28] <Fryguy--> or just compile it from source yourself
[01:28] <CyberCod> and Dreamlinux has that nifty MkDistro tool
[01:28] <brent113> fryguy: well it is disabled, if it's that predictable
[01:28] <yowshi> fryguy i am not using hardy
[01:28] <fevel> I was wondering if theres something like that for coing in python
[01:29] <Fryguy--> brent113: if it's disabled, then enable it
[01:29] <snerfu> I was looking at the hardy heron release schedule on the wiki. It says the first beta release is supposed to be tomorrow but there is an exclamation point next to it, does that mean it will be delayed a bit?
[01:29] <whitehat_> no, it's only for winodws :(
[01:29] <CyberCod> so I was thinking, if you can't bring the tool to Ubuntu, can you bring Ubuntu to the tool?
[01:29] <fevel> like an ide I could get running on ubuntu
[01:29] <CTho> Fryguy--: if you can give me a command line to get it to scan (or a shell script that loops ports?) that would do
[01:29] <Fryguy--> snerfu: join #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[01:29] <Fryguy--> CTho: just install nmap
[01:29] <snerfu> Thanks Fryguy.
[01:29] <cahone> Fryguy--, Hey Fryguy i was able to edit the xorg.conf file to get a good 1024x768 Resolution for my one monitor.  Do you know how to use the System Appearance Preferences in Ubuntu and is that application simply modifying the xorg.conf file? or what?
[01:29] <ektobot_> What room is ubuntu UK?
[01:29] <minimec> CyberCod: Well... the problem sometimes is not only the package, but the version too. Imagine hardy repo on debian etch... Impossible.
[01:29] <CTho> Fryguy--: ok
[01:29] <brent113> fryguy: well, thanks.  do you know why it does that?
[01:29] <Flannel> !uk | ektobot_
[01:29] <ubotu> ektobot_: Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[01:29] <CyberCod> hmmm
[01:29] <whitehat_> nope fevel, where out of luck apple seems to like supporting microsoft
[01:29] <ektobot_> :P thanks bot
[01:30] <dm1> 1
[01:30] <joker> #surabaya
[01:30] <Fryguy--> brent113: not specifically, but the power daemon is what is responsible for figuring out the current and available power states of the machine
[01:30] <CyberCod> I was hopeful synaptic would be smart enough to resolve dependency issues if all the packages were present
[01:30] <whitehat_> hey guys this is driving me nuts what does XD mean?
[01:30] <brent113> ah, i found a site, thanks so much!!
[01:30] <whitehat_> oh it's a laughing face
[01:30] <whitehat_> nvm
[01:30] <Flannel> CyberCod: Only if their versioning scheme is compatable
[01:30] <cahone> Fryguy--, In the Appearance Preferences I am specifically trying to use the Visual Effects Options but they wont enable?
[01:30] <Fryguy--> cahone: yes it just modifies the xorg.conf file, and then makes a backup of it.  And provides a fancy gui wrapper around text editing that usually just gets in the way (in my opinion)
[01:30] <fevel> Xd is like a large smile with closed shut eyes
[01:30] <whitehat_> cahone, install the compiz manger
[01:31] <CyberCod> ah
[01:31] <CyberCod> :(
[01:31] <cogeno> Is anyone that is currently in here familiar with systemimager?
[01:31] <Fryguy--> cahone: enabling compiz on ati is outside the scope of this channel, google is good, #compiz-fusion, and I think #ubuntu-effects exists
[01:31] <jsoftw> Any suggestions on a decent visio like program? Dia sucks, no decent icons/images
[01:31] <fevel> whitehat_, I meant not coding for the iphone...I meant an ide that would run on ubuntu and code python using a lego like approach
[01:31] <cahone> OMG so Compiz is that complicated?
[01:31] <Fryguy--> jsoftw: i use dia
[01:31] <Fryguy--> cahone: yes
[01:32] <minimec> CyberCod: This goes far beyond package managment...
[01:32] <whitehat_> fevel, ah I wonder....
[01:32] <Fryguy--> cahone: desktop effects are a waste of cpu cycles anyway :(
[01:32] <fevel> lol
[01:32] <CyberCod> well, does anyone know a good tutorial on remastering Ubuntu
[01:32] <ryrys> jsoftw: i use Dia with icons packages :)
[01:32] <Fryguy--> (compositing is not, however)
[01:32] <CyberCod> ?
[01:32] <fevel> whitehat_, would be nice right?
[01:32] <cahone> So when do i just get to use my computer?  Does everything require that you work on your computer and not with it?
[01:32] <whitehat_> yep
[01:32] <cahone> sorry for the neg attitude lol
[01:32] <Fryguy--> cahone: not at all
[01:32] <NMajik> Fryguy--: I am completely stumped, will you help?
[01:32] <velius> hello, i have recompiled my kernel several times. I cant get my ethernet card to work. even though i chose the right drivers.
[01:32] <adude> how can i make a webpage as the background
[01:32] <Fryguy--> NMajik: ask a question, and I answer it
[01:33] <Fryguy--> NMajik: or direct you to the location of the answer
[01:33] <velius> should i compile ethernet driver as a module or built in?
[01:33] <fevel> whitehat_, python is easy to get logic going...If I could build a gui for the logic using building blocks would be nice
[01:33] <Fryguy--> velius: you almost certainly don't need to be compiling an ethernet driver
[01:33] <Atma26> anyone know how to get rid of a repeating "cannot eject volume" error?
[01:33] <velius> no fryguy
[01:33] <velius> i am recompiling the kernel
[01:33] <velius> i selected the right ethernet module but it isnt working
[01:33] <cahone> I really dont get it?  It seems as though the simplest of things is so complicated in Linux?
[01:33] <fevel> Atma26,  if you could restart gnome
[01:33] <Fryguy--> velius: well, since you pretty much use ethernet 100% of the time the machine is on, it should be compiled in
[01:34] <cahone> See i cant even speak strait anymore
[01:34] <velius> should i compile the ethernet driver as a module or build it into the kernel
[01:34] <matthob> Hi, anuone know why when I use Gpart, shows my HDD unallocated complete even when I have 3 partitions there?
[01:34] <Atma26> fevel: i tried that
[01:34] <velius> ok
[01:34] <velius> i will try that
[01:34] <Atma26> fevel: no effect
[01:34] <NMajik> Fryguy--: I used the command "sudo netstat -e -e -l -p > ~/tmp". Used grep to look in that file for the port shown, which I found. Instead of a PID/Program name though I just get a hyphen
[01:34] <cahone> Guess i just have a massive learning curve to join in on all the fun
[01:34] <velius> well thanks for the help im off to compile :)
[01:34] <velius> man i miss freebsd
[01:34] <Ububegin> Hi, where is nice site to get nice desktop themes and logins for ubuntu...
[01:35] <Fryguy--> NMajik: then it's something in the kernel using that port
[01:35] <Fryguy--> NMajik: (i think, not 100% sure, i'm like 90-95% sure)
[01:35] <bperry> Ububegin: gnome-art?
[01:35] <Fryguy--> Ububegin: gnome-look.org
[01:35] <bperry> art.gnome.org
[01:36] <Fryguy--> and bperry's suggestion, that i was in the middle of typing and got beat
[01:36] <NMajik> Fryguy--: But I can't use netstat to look further into what it's being used for?
[01:36] <Fryguy--> NMajik: not that i knwo of
[01:37] <NMajik> Fryguy--: Is it reasonably safe to assume it's not a security issue?
[01:37] <adude> how can you make a webpage as the desktop background?
[01:37] <matthob> Anyone know how to solve that Gparted shows UNALLOCATED all the HDD even when I have 3 partitions?
[01:37] <Fryguy--> NMajik: probably
[01:37] <cahone> Fryguy--, are things like compiz temorary patch programs (for lack of a better term) that i will have to implement and delete everytime i make a simple hardware exchange like installing a new video card?
[01:37] <CyberCod> I guess thats a "no".. :(
[01:37] <fevel> matthob,  did you choose the right HD
[01:37] <Fryguy--> cahone: no
[01:37] <Flannel> matthob: what does `sudo fdisk -l` (lower L) show?
[01:37] <Ububegin> Fryguy, bperry : looking at it now... :D
[01:37] <cahone> Fryguy--, so you use compiz with other cards too?
[01:38] <Fryguy--> cahone: yes
[01:38] <matthob> fevel, yes its the right hdd, the only one in fact.
[01:38] <byrd> I have a odd question: I have a CD here burnt and I want to find out if it's Alpha 4 or 5 of Ubuntu 8.04 - is there a way to do so?
[01:38] <bperry> byrd: md5sum it
[01:38] <Fryguy--> cahone: compiz interfaces with X, it doesn't do anything directly with your video card.  Assuming you have X11 configured correctly, then it works, regardless of what video card it actually is
[01:38] <matthob> Flannel, i need to reboot to see what does, What probably need to show ?
[01:38] <bperry> and compare it to the two md5sums canonical offers
[01:38] <whitehat_> snivel, only 59 ppl bought my program :(
[01:38] <cahone> Fryguy--, this is interesting so many hidden delights...i dont know how i would have ever guessed i needed compiz without someone like you to tell me?
[01:39] <byrd> bperry: can you check md5sum with a whole cd? or do you mean the isos?
[01:39] <Fryguy--> cahone: you don't need compiz
[01:39] <bperry> whichever
[01:39] <cahone> Fryguy--, ahh ic
[01:39] <byrd> aight, thanks
[01:39] <cahone> Fryguy--, then how do i get the visual effects to work?
[01:39] <Fryguy--> cahone: use compiz
[01:39] <Fryguy--> compiz IS the visual effects
[01:39] <cahone> Fryguy--, kk
[01:39] <slylock> Pelo: u there
[01:40] <Fryguy--> but you don't need compiz to get your computer to run (alluding to the point you made earlier about working on the computer, not with it)
[01:40] <Pelo> slylock, more or less , you'll be competing with torchwood for my attention , make it good
[01:40] <cahone> Fryguy--, i do like a level of cool computing experience and not simply a terminal screen when i use a computer
[01:41] <bperry> terminal is better :-)
[01:41] <Fryguy--> cahone: that's somewhat of a hyperbole, but ok (I actually prefer a screen full of terminals whenever possible)
[01:41] <cahone> LOL
[01:41] <bperry> Fryguy--: wtf? you know gnome-terminal has tabs right?
[01:41] <Fryguy--> the only noteworthy thin i do outside of terminals is web browser and video playback
[01:41] <matthob> Flannel, If any property, what should show the "fdisk -l". I just have one HDD and four or five NTFS partitions
[01:41] <slylock> Pelo: package glib-2.0 was not found in pkg-config perhaps you should add  the directory containing 'glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH evvirnoment variable
[01:42] <bperry> unless you use xterm
[01:42] <Fryguy--> bperry: yes, usually only have 1 open with multiple screen sessions split up
[01:42] <cowboy29> how do i compile a source code in ubuntu?
[01:42] <LadyNikon> !install
[01:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:42] <Pelo> slylock, libglib-2.0 and ibglib-2.0-dev
[01:42] <slylock> Pelo: it says the same for gthread
[01:42] <cahone> I build websites and use PHP CSS HTML and the rest of the crap too
[01:42] <LadyNikon> dang wrong one.
[01:42] <Pelo> slylock,  robabaly
[01:42] <Fryguy--> bperry: I dislike tabs because it hides an entire interface, and I have a large enough monitor that I can show several terminals at once, and i like to be able to read them all without hitting keys to change tabs
[01:42] <byrd> bperry: do you have an idea as to where the alpha 4/5 checksums? the pages http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/MD5SUMS are dead
[01:43] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: install the build-essential package and have at it
[01:43] <Pelo> slylock, doyou have a gui ? gnome ?
[01:43] <Flannel> matthob: it will list the partitions
[01:43] <cahone> I am a visual person and like working in graphics programs as well as programing
[01:43] <slylock> yea
[01:43] <slylock> Pelo: yea
[01:43] <cowboy29> i am very new to all this so please put this in lamen terms
[01:43] <MatToufoutu> quelqu'un a dejà utilisé freenet?
[01:43] <Flannel> !fr | MatToufoutu
[01:43] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: if you are new to this, then you shouldn't be compiling code
[01:43] <ubotu> MatToufoutu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:43] <Pelo> slylock, menu > stystem > admin > synaptic package manager,  always install the -dev related package of the dependency you need
[01:43] <MatToufoutu> ??
[01:44] <MatToufoutu> oups excuse
[01:44] <MatToufoutu> mistook channel
[01:44] <cahone> I dont think Deamweaver works in a Linux environment thought
[01:44] <cahone> though
[01:44] <Fryguy--> large guis like that just cause me to work more slowly
[01:44] <Pelo> slylock, what app are you trying to install again ? it's probably in synatpic as well , just do a search for it first,  synaptic will isntall all the required dependencies
[01:44] <bperry> byrd, do you have the isos on hand?
[01:44] <cowboy29> hehe well is all i am trying to compile is ftpd pro
[01:44] <matthob> Flannel, I guess shows no partitions, just the hdd without partitions or type ofs
[01:45] <byrd> bperry: yup
[01:45] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: there's plenty of ftp daemons available in ubuntu, there is no need (or good reason) to be compiling your own
[01:45] <cowboy29> well this is the one the forusm had instructions on how touse and setup but i went to install it like it said and it told me package could not be found
[01:45] <bperry> byrd:
[01:46] <slylock> Pelo: i am trying to compile the source code of qt
[01:46] <cowboy29> so i downloaded the package and have it untared just need to compile it so i can install it
[01:46] <Flannel> cowboy29: Which one?
[01:46] <icanhasadmin> Having difficultly starting fglrx/AIGLX on radeon xpress 200m. tried nearly everything.. willing to follow suggestions
[01:46] <bperry> on the disk and in the isos, there is a file called md5sum.txt
[01:46] <slylock> Pelo: i need the 4.3.2 not the older one
[01:46] <capitalidea> I have ntfs-3g but I cannot mount a larg (500GB) NTFS volume, I need help I have no idea how to proceed from here...
[01:46] <cowboy29> proftpd-1.3.1
[01:46] <slylock> Pelo: thats why i am compiling it
[01:46] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: install packages using ubuntu's package management sytem (synaptic) unless you have very good reason to do otherwise
[01:46] <bperry> byrd: compare the two md5sum.txt's to the one on the CD
[01:46] <bperry> that will tell you
[01:46] <Flannel> cowboy29: proftpd is in the repositories.  install the 'proftpd' package, and you're good to go.
[01:47] <slylock> Pelo: actually i had ubuntu  6.06 before and qt compiled fine on it but now i have 7.10 and i am having problems
[01:47] <Pelo> slylock, ok , well , you can still install the dependendies from synaptic, , like I said , always install the -dev packages , close synaptic before running make ,  and you might also need to compile some of the dependencies ifyou need more recent ones
[01:47] <nicodarious> hey all
[01:47] <byrd> bperry: i found the one on the cd, but which ones should i compare them to? the only other checksum file i could find was the alpha 6 one :x
[01:47] <cowboy29> wel i did the sudo apt-get install proftpd-1.3.1 and it is still telling me it can not find the package
[01:47] <nicodarious> just jumping in here.  I'm new to this channel but have a little knowledge on Ubuntu.
[01:48] <exegesis> I want to do a fresh install of Gutsy but don't want to lose my preferences etc.  How do I do that without using an external drive?
[01:48] <Pelo> slylock,  installing the current qt from synaptic, and then removing it , leaving thedependencies migth speed things up
[01:48] <Flannel> cowboy29: Because the package name is 'proftpd' without the version information.
[01:48] <bperry> byrd, heh, that will tell you also, if they don't match, you have alpha 5
[01:48] <Pelo> exegesis, just move your /home folder to a seperate partitons
[01:48] <Fryguy--> exegesis: back up your /home directory somewhere
[01:48] <bperry> ;-)
[01:48] <nicodarious> exegesis, what prefs do you want to keep?
[01:48] <slylock> Pelo: hmmmm how do i remove it then after installing it
[01:48] <unop_> yowshi, are you still here?
[01:49] <exegesis> nicodarious my firefox, amarok things.  I'm sure there's more but that's all that comes to mind
[01:49] <nicodarious> exegesis, you don't have to delete your home partition to do a fresh install of Gutsy, or any Linux for that manner
[01:49] <cowboy29> and i get this error when i try to use the synaptic
[01:49] <yowshi> i am back
[01:49] <capitalidea> I have ntfs-3g but I cannot mount a larg (500GB) NTFS volume, I need help I have no idea how to proceed from here...
[01:49] <yowshi> went for a smoke unop_
[01:49] <byrd> bperry: hah, fair enough.. i think i might as well download alpha 6 as i'm going to have to mass update whatever alpha i have anyway.. thanks for your time :)
[01:49] <Pelo> slylock, use synaptic,  search for qt,   which ever pacakge you end up installing ,  remove the same package with right ciick uninstall
[01:49] <exegesis> fryguy my last name's fry, why'd you choose that name?
[01:49] <Flannel> byrd: mount them and check timestamps
[01:49] <Fryguy--> exegesis: super mario brothers 2
[01:49] <clearzen> capitalidea: are you mounting it from the CLI?
[01:49] <nicodarious> exegesis, do a backup of your synaptic packages through synaptic and save it on your desktop.
[01:49] <capitalidea> from Nautilus
[01:49] <exegesis> fryguy oh, cuz people call me Fryguy from time to time, haha
[01:50] <cowboy29> error E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[01:50] <cowboy29> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[01:50] <cowboy29> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[01:50] <cowboy29> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:50] <cowboy29> W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%207.10%20%5fGutsy%20Gibbon%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20071016)_dists_gutsy_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:50] <FloodBot2> cowboy29: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <unop_> yowshi, cool -- i need a smoke now -- the script is almost finished, i need to test it out and generate a baseline of my system for you
[01:50] <cowboy29> W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%207.10%20%5fGutsy%20Gibbon%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20071016)_dists_gutsy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:50] <capitalidea> ARGH FLOOD! KILL IT!
[01:50] <icanhasadmin> flooding seriously unnecesary
[01:50] <unop_> what a cowboy? (literally)
[01:50] <capitalidea> pastebin mutherfooler
[01:50] <yowshi> thanks unop_ you and nekrud have been a life saver
[01:50] <grey_> irc://irc.delinked.us/chanchan
[01:50] <Flannel> !ops | grey_
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[01:50] <icanhasadmin> lol@ "don't use enter as puncuation"
[01:50] <nicodarious> exegesis, that will be your install fille for when you reinstall.  also, when reinstalling, just don't format your /home partition and relabel it as home.  that way, all your stuff on /home is safe and sound.
[01:51] <pushpop> Can someone help me with this question http://pastebin.ca/949810
[01:51] <Pelo> pushpop,  jsut summerize the question in here
[01:51] <zezu> i'm trying to get audio working on a notebook, i tried modprobe snd-intel8x0 and get errors :|
[01:51] <zezu> anyone know what might be the issue, i'm reading a ton of forums atm
[01:51] <exegesis> nicodarious I'm confused.  If I do a fresh install my /home won't necessarily be deleted?
[01:51] <capitalidea> zezu, paste the errors to a pastebin like pushpop did
[01:51] <Fryguy--> exegesis: it will, which is why i said to make a backup of it
[01:52] <exegesis> nicodarious I'm doing a fresh install because I want to delete Vista from my cpu, but also don't want to loose my preferences
[01:52] <nicodarious> exegesis, if you tell the installer NOT to format /home, then it won't touch it.
[01:52] <Fryguy--> nicodarious: the installer isn't able to do that if it's on the same partition (which it is by default)
[01:52] <Pelo> nicodarious, that only works if /home is on a different partitosn then /
[01:52] <zezu> capitalidea: will do
[01:52] <bj0ng0> hmm, could anyone recommend a commandline cpu,ram or something benchmark..? :)
[01:52] <nicodarious> exegesis, ahhh... didn't know it was on the same partition.
[01:53] <icanhasadmin> top?
[01:53] <yowshi> i've never really understood how to save a /home partition
[01:53]  * capitalidea wishes belgian beer wouldn't skunk before it reaches Texas
[01:53] <Pelo> yowshi, just create a new partition,  copy your /home to it , and make a line in fstab that the new partitson mojunts to /home
[01:53] <zezu> All operation not permitted errors for modprobe :: http://rafb.net/p/WQf49P65.html
[01:54] <capitalidea> yowshi, you make several partitions, you make a mount point for one of them /home
[01:54] <dep> bj0ng0: try top
[01:54] <Old_Soldier> yowshi, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[01:54] <Fryguy--> yowshi: tar cjf /tmp/Home.tar.bz2 /home
[01:54] <nicodarious> exegesis, then do this, copy everything from /home (primarily all your .hidden files, like firefox settings and all) onto a separate hard drive or partition.  then do a backup from synaptic of all your installed programs and save that somewhere safe, like where you put your /home stuff.  then you're all set to reinstall.
[01:54] <yowshi> yeah but i dont understand fstab editing
[01:54] <Old_Soldier> just copying will mess up your permissions
[01:54] <capitalidea> oic
[01:54] <Pelo> yowshi, you just ask here and we can give you a line to put in your fstab , we'll just have to ask you a couple of queisotns first
[01:55] <exegesis> nicodarious ok, thanks
[01:55] <cowboy29> i am getting a erro telling me it can not lock my adminstration direcotry
[01:55] <nicodarious> exegesis, then when you're reinstalled, have synaptic look for that file you saved and it will redownload and reinstall all your programs you had installed before.  move all the saved /home stuff back to your home and log in as your user.
[01:55] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: need to be root to install software
[01:55] <yowshi> heheh i mean i have a seperate /home partition but if i ever had to install fresh well i'm at a loss of how to save my data hehehehe
[01:55] <capitalidea> Anyone have any advice for troubleshooting an ntfs-3g problem? I can't mount a 500GB drive with one large NTFS volume, and I really really need to be able to
[01:55] <Pelo> gotta go , later folks
[01:55] <yowshi> cool Pelo
[01:55] <nicodarious> exegesis, lost connection?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> capitalidea,  mount it manually with sudo, look for error messages
[01:55] <bj0ng0> thanks ;D
[01:55] <clearzen> capitalidea: I assume you are trying to mount it in a terminal right
[01:55] <nicodarious> exegesis, did you get my last?
[01:56] <exegesis>  nicodarious actually my biggest concern I just realized is my music and documents.  How can I keep them on my cpu and not have to transfer them (there's a lot) to an external hd?
[01:56] <exegesis> nicodarious yeah, I did
[01:56] <capitalidea> clearzen: I was using nautilus actually. I'll try from the CLI though
[01:56] <cowboy29> i get that  message as root too
[01:56] <exegesis> nicodarious I can xfer the important stuff from /home and that won't take long, but the music will kill me
[01:56] <nicodarious> exegesis, if they are on your /home/exegesis/Documents/* folder, you HAVE to transfer them.
[01:56] <Fryguy--> cowboy29: then you have another window open that you are installing software in (your package manager is open or something)
[01:57] <nicodarious> exegesis, if you want to keept hem that is lol
[01:57] <zezu> i'm reading something about a bug w/ acpi, anyone know if this might be the case with my audio prob ?
[01:57] <Fryguy--> capitalidea: what is the filename of the device you are trying to mount?
[01:57] <exegesis> nicodarious oh, dang
[01:57] <nicodarious> exegesis, i'm afraid that the time will be the key here.  best thing to do is to COPY your /home/exegesis/* folder to a safe spot.
[01:58] <Fryguy--> zezu: probably not
[01:58]  * capitalidea is perplexed
[01:58] <nicodarious> exegesis, sorry there isn't any other way around it.  but when you reinstall do it this way:
[01:58] <clearzen> capitalidea: ?
[01:58] <capitalidea> There seems not to be any trouble doing it manually without any options.
[01:58] <captaingeek> anyone know how to delete a group?
[01:58] <nicodarious> exegesis set up a / partition, and then a /home partition.  this way you don't have to do this again
[01:58] <zezu> i'm hoping not too, i dont want to disable acpi or manually build a new kernel
[01:58] <cowboy29> more or less reboot and try again
[01:58] <Fryguy--> exegesis: why are you reinstalling?
[01:59]  * capitalidea looks suspiciously at nautilus
[01:59] <zezu> kernel isn't that bad, but more time than i'd like to spend atm
[01:59] <encryptz> captaingeek: man delgroup
[01:59] <Ouroborosity> i've hit a wall here
[01:59] <nicodarious> fryguy to get rid of Vista =-)
[01:59] <icanhasadmin> zezu: sorry i just steped in, are you getting ANY audio at all?
[01:59] <Fryguy--> ?
[01:59] <cahone> are there any movie or tv show websites you can watch on Ubuntu
[01:59] <capitalidea> captaingeek: be careful, some groups, many, are necessary
[01:59] <georgy_28> nicodarious, : groupdel
[01:59] <zezu> icanhasadmin: none
[01:59] <Ouroborosity> i've tried the livecd, alternate install, and even wubi
[01:59] <Ouroborosity> and ubuntu will not work
[01:59] <icanhasadmin> zezu: Toshiba laptop?
[01:59] <Fryguy--> nicodarious: how why not just get rid of vista then? there's no reason to reinstall ubuntu to get rid of vista
[01:59] <zezu> in sound settings autodetect and nothing else dont make a peep
[01:59] <exegesis> fryguy because I want to get Vista off
[01:59] <capitalidea> icanhasadmin: icanhascatmacros?
[01:59] <zezu> HP notebook, w/ ICH8
[01:59] <Fryguy--> err
[01:59] <Flannel> Ouroborosity: Have you verified the CDs? (Check for defects)
[01:59] <nicodarious> georgy_28  ???
[01:59] <Ouroborosity> yep
[01:59] <exegesis> nicodarious will it be obvious how to set up a / and a /home when I do a fresh install?
[01:59] <Ouroborosity> cd is perfect
[02:00] <Fryguy--> exegesis: there's no reason to reinstall ubuntu to get rid of vista.  just get rid of it...
[02:00] <Ouroborosity> even dl'd again and reburned
[02:00] <aetaric> is it safe to migrate from debian's etch to gutsy?
[02:00] <icanhasadmin> zezu: VERY unlikely it's an acpi error. you can pass a command to turn acpi off, then you'll know for sure. but very very unlikely. it's probably an alsa issue. I'm assuming you have alsa installed?
[02:00] <exegesis> fryguy how?  I've dl gparted and started messing around with that
[02:00] <Ouroborosity> it locks up in the middle of booting
[02:00] <exegesis> fryguy but I wasn't able to satisfactorily figure it out
[02:00] <Fryguy--> exegesis: well what do you mean "get rid of vista"
[02:00] <zezu> icanhasadmin: yes alsa is installed
[02:00] <zezu> icanhasadmin: i get an error w/ modprobe http://rafb.net/p/WQf49P65.html
[02:01] <nicodarious> exegesis, when you are reformattion, you can set two partitions up.  just make one (the first) as about 25 gigs (your / part), then your swap (about 1 to 2 gigs), then new partition for the rest.
[02:01] <Ouroborosity> for all the talk of ubuntu being the easiest to work with i'm getting fed up
[02:01] <cahone> Is there any entertainment websites that are compatible with Ubuntu...like itunes does not work with it?
[02:01] <exegesis> fryguy completely erase it from my hd
[02:01] <nicodarious> exegesis, after this, label the last one as /home
[02:01] <icanhasadmin> zezu: same output when you "sudo modprobe" ?
[02:01] <nicodarious> exegesis, when it asks to label them
[02:01] <exegesis> nicodarious what will the / partition do and be?
[02:01] <Fryguy--> exegesis: so then just remove the partition using gparted, and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst so it doesn't show up in your boot menu
[02:01] <captaingeek> how do i list users through the terminal?
[02:01] <nicodarious> exegesis, that is your / (root)
[02:01] <Fryguy--> captaingeek: cat /etc/passwd
[02:01] <exegesis> nicodarious ok
[02:01] <zezu> icanhasadmin: tbh I hadn't tried, used to being logged in as root in a LFS dist.
[02:02] <nicodarious> exegesis, that is where all your programs will be installed.
[02:02] <Ouroborosity> any suggestions on why even LiveCD won't boot?
[02:02] <capitalidea> Is there some way I can determine what trouble nautilus has in mounting this NTFS volume of mine? (Which otherwise mounts without issue from the CLI)
[02:02] <nicodarious> exegesis so make it about 20 to 25 gigs.  depending on how much you install.
[02:02] <aetaric> im now stuck between etch and gutsy
[02:02] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: bad cd?
[02:02] <Flannel> Ouroborosity: I'd be worried more on why the alternate CD doesn't boot.  Thats a safer bet.  Does it not boot, or not install completely?
[02:02] <Ouroborosity> nope
[02:02] <Ouroborosity> redl'd and burned it
[02:02] <exegesis> fryguy then how could I make a / partition and a /home partition by just deleting vista with gparted?  I want to do that b/c I hear it's beneficial
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> zezu: 100 percent positive you were logged in as root? doesn't seem that way in the pastebin, i could be wrong
[02:02] <Ouroborosity> repeatedly
[02:02] <byrd> When looking for themes for Ubuntu on gnome-look.org (Is there a better site?), what category do I look under, like GTK, Metacity, etc?
[02:02] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: check the checksum?
[02:02] <Ouroborosity> the CD is find
[02:02] <Fryguy--> exegesis: you can just create a partition to use for /home using gparted
[02:02] <exegesis> nicodarious ok, that helps
[02:02] <aoeuid> problem: computer no longer produces any sound, from any programs, even after restarts
[02:03] <Ouroborosity> i tried three times from three different sources
[02:03] <Fryguy--> and then mount it in /etc/fstab
[02:03] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: but did you check the md5 checksum on the iso?
[02:03] <capitalidea> Ouroborosity: boot options, have you explorex them?
[02:03] <aoeuid> anyone have any ideas?
[02:03] <nicodarious> exegesis, just label it as   /     .  linux knows that that is root
[02:03] <capitalidea> explored them*
[02:03] <exegesis> nicodarious ok
[02:03] <digital_freak_0_> aoeuid: what sound card do you have?
[02:03] <zezu> icanhasadmin: no i'm not i meant that i'm not used to sudo, i was using another distro prev. (LFS=you build it)
[02:03] <Fryguy--> nicodarious: there is no reason for him to reinstall ubuntu so the conversation is pointless
[02:03] <Ouroborosity> what boot options would you recommend to a nub?
[02:03] <aoeuid> no idea, but it was workinfg fine before
[02:03] <nicodarious> exegesis.  if you want i can give you an output of my own partitions so you can get an idea what i mean
[02:03] <aoeuid> for about half a year
[02:03] <zezu> icanhasadmin: anyhow it works just fine w sudo, no errors, no output at all
[02:03] <aetaric> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:03] <aetaric>  unsupported dependency problem - not installing dpkg
[02:03] <Fryguy--> I have my /home on another machine heh
[02:03] <Ouroborosity> because i've tried every different installation possibility out there
[02:04] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: you still haven't answered my question
[02:04] <exegesis> nicodarious I'm pretty sure I get it now, but thanks
[02:04] <nicodarious> fryguy, i understand this, but this cleans up his hard drive, just in case, and also helps him learn the ins and outs of Linux a little bit.
[02:04] <digital_freak_0_> if you look at your volume control do you see a tab called switchs
[02:04] <icanhasadmin> zezu: Ok.. and still no sound i'm guessing? All the normal stuff checked? Nothing muted? physical sound control on computer if there is one? alsamixer checked?
[02:04] <Ouroborosity> yes, the CD is fine
[02:04] <Ouroborosity> i checked it
[02:04] <aoeuid> alsamixer checked?
[02:04] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: that's not my question, if the cd is fine. my question is verifying the md5 chekcsum against the iso
[02:04] <Ouroborosity> but even without the CD
[02:04] <Fryguy--> nicodarious: it's a waste of time.  Manually remounting /home to a new partition on an already running system is going to teach him far more about how linux works, in a shorter amount of time, with less work and hassle involved
[02:04] <Ouroborosity> Wubi should have worked
[02:04] <Ouroborosity> or the alternate installer
[02:05] <Flannel> Ouroborosity: does the alternate CD stall during boot? or during install?
[02:05] <Ouroborosity> during boot
[02:05] <digital_freak_0_> is there an analog/digital switch?
[02:05] <nicodarious> fryguy, i know when i got rid of windows, i didn't like how the partitions were set up and separated, and the easiest way for me to move them around without having in depth knowledge is to back-up and reinstall.
[02:05] <zezu> icanhasadmin: yes everything checked there, my keyboard icon says i'm muted, but its not in software, alsa etc
[02:05] <capitalidea> noacpi stuff I would guess, Ouroborosity
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> for some reason, I can't use the ubuntu 7.1 cd that I burned. It has been checked. It's on an mdg machine and gives me an i/o error on my floppy. I turned it off in bios, but now the cd just goes to busybox
[02:05] <capitalidea> something similar
[02:05] <encryptz> Ouroborosity: i'll take that as a no. that should be the first think you do before burinng the disc
[02:05] <capitalidea> i don't know, just use bluunt for trauma and try them all
[02:05] <cahone> I may be wrong but so far Linux makes a great web server but it does not seem to work well with almost everything
[02:05] <Ouroborosity> i've about come to blunt force trauma yeah
[02:06] <icanhasadmin> zezu: That's an acpi thing, ignore that. can you pastepin your .. uh,, hold on. /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[02:06] <Ouroborosity> three different approaches, all fails
[02:06] <Ouroborosity> must be my computer itself
[02:06] <Fryguy--> cahone: it's just you.  And it makes an OK server, but there are better solutions for that as well.
[02:06] <yowshi> encryptz, doesnt the ubuntu install cd have a checkdisk in the boot menu?
[02:06] <Seven_Six_Two> I tried modifying the boot options (erasing quiet and adding irqpoll) but then I get lots of text with no errors and it still goes right to busybox
[02:06] <clearzen> Fryguy--: ok server?
[02:06] <Fryguy--> cahone: it's just you being inexperienced with a new operating system
[02:06] <Fryguy--> clearzen: yes
[02:07] <Flannel> Ouroborosity: It fails during boot, but boots the integrity check fine?
[02:07] <encryptz> yowshi: yes. but, before even risking buring a bad disc, you should always check the checksum. it'll save you discs
[02:07] <Ouroborosity> yes
[02:07] <yowshi> true
[02:07] <Ouroborosity> that's what's so wierd
[02:07] <nicodarious> fryguy, i understand that, but for now, i want to make sure that he can od a basic setup of a partition table before he learns the in-depth part like that...  i know that it's not necessary, but when i was first starting out (back in red hat 6.0), it took forever to learn how to manipulate partitions...
[02:07] <cahone> I guess cause I cant use it with itunes or cinemaNow or lots of websites
[02:07] <Fryguy--> nicodarious: you probably didn't have a good teacher then, it's pretty basic and simple
[02:07] <cahone> Is there a good Movie rental website for Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Fryguy--> cahone: works fine with all of those (I happen to know that for a fact because we are developing a competitor to those products at work)
[02:08] <encryptz> cahone: eh?
[02:08] <Seven_Six_Two> are there any other options that I should try?
[02:08] <nicodarious> fryguy, you're right.  I had NO teacher... as i do not have now.  everything I have learned, I have learned for bbs's and webpages, and books that i found.
[02:08] <Ouroborosity> can anyone recommend a different livecd distro so i can even see if any linux works for me?
[02:08] <phaedral> I got this MacBook Pro as a gift, but really miss my linux; thinking about Ubuntu 'cause the guy at boingboing.net speaks highly of the combo; suggestions?
[02:08] <nicodarious> fryguy, and a lot of it is still over my head, heh.
[02:08] <zezu> icanhasadmin: http://pastebin.com/d3166bd1c
[02:08] <cahone> Fryguy--, So your saying there is an iTunes install for Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Ouroborosity> i may have just committed heresy or soemthing
[02:09] <yowshi> Ouroborosity, LOL i doubt it
[02:09] <Fryguy--> cahone: yes, itunes runs in linux just fine
[02:09] <marky> can somebody help and tell me why Xorg sigsegv's when i enable twinview in nvidia-settings?
[02:09] <Fryguy--> cahone: if you insist on using it you can
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> zezu: is that the whole file? it seems to be seriously cut off
[02:09] <capitalidea> We're breaking a hole in the ice just for you at this very moment Ouroborosity
[02:09] <Ouroborosity> haha
[02:10] <epitron> is there a way to grant a user Administrator privileges from the commandline?
[02:10] <capitalidea> If you float, we'll know for sure you're a witch at which point we will burn you alive for root's sake
[02:10] <yowshi> capitalidea, a nhole in the ice?
[02:10] <epitron> (i installed ubuntu from debootstrap)
[02:10] <yowshi> LOL
[02:10] <Fryguy--> Ouroborosity: i've run linux on a 386 with no hard drive.  i'm PRETTY SURE linux is going to run for you
[02:10] <Flannel> epitron: sudo usermod -G admin -a [username]
[02:10] <epitron> Flannel: oh, that's all it is? nice. :)
[02:10] <Ouroborosity> fryguy: well that's what i thought too
[02:10] <cahone> Fryguy--, well i got shows like Star Trek Voyager I have bought though iTunes and would like to watch them still
[02:10] <Ouroborosity> but this pos is proving me wrong
[02:10] <capitalidea> h/o
[02:10] <Flannel> epitron: Yeah, you just have to add them to the admin group
[02:10] <yowshi> Fryguy--, why would you run a computer with no hdd?
[02:10] <phaedral> found the how to at the wiki
[02:10] <epitron> Flannel: how do the gnome menus know to show you the admin features? is that hardcoded?
[02:11] <phaedral> :)
[02:11] <encryptz> Flannel: me prefers gpasswd
[02:11] <marky> anybody?
[02:11] <Fryguy--> yowshi: computers didn't always have hard drives...
[02:11] <encryptz> gpasswd -a <user> <group>
[02:11] <zezu> icanhasadmin: http://pastebin.com/d6769919 sorry try this
[02:11] <Flannel> epitron: I'm not really sure
[02:11] <yowshi> Fryguy--, i have never seen a 386 with no hdd
[02:11] <Kuroachia> What is the ubuntu equivalent to something such as netstumbler?
[02:11] <Fryguy--> yowshi: had one laying around, wanted to see if I could do it
[02:11] <epitron> Flannel: ok.. thanks :)
[02:11] <encryptz> that way, you can't forget the -a with usermod -G, and screw up all your groups
[02:11] <phaedral> Ouroborosity: you might ask in ##linux where it's not OT; and $.02, knoppix has always worked live for me
[02:11] <epitron> encryptz: gpasswd does the same thing?
[02:11] <Ouroborosity> knoppix, ok
[02:11] <encryptz> epitron: yes
[02:12] <Ouroborosity> off to ##linux
[02:12] <epitron> encryptz: sweet
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Kuroachia: aircrack or kismet probably.  The *nix toolset for network sniffing is MUCH more diverse than it is on windows
[02:12] <Flannel> encryptz: adduser would also be appropriate
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Kuroachia: this isn't an appropriate channel for that though
[02:12] <capitalidea> Ouroborosity: there are boot time options
[02:12] <encryptz> epitron: gpasswd -M larry,moe,curly stooges
[02:12] <encryptz> for example, adding larry moe and curly to the stooges group
[02:12] <Kuroachia> fryguy: I don't want network sniffing or cracking or anything of the sort, simply something that will update me on the local networks
[02:13] <icanhasadmin> zezu: add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to the last line, save it, and reboot entirely.
[02:13] <capitalidea> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:13] <Fryguy--> Kuroachia: network-manager does that already
[02:13] <Fryguy--> (the network icon in your gnome-panel)
[02:13] <zezu> icanhasadmin: will do, thanks
[02:13] <Kuroachia> fryguy: I have an issue with network-manager though, it has such a slow refresh time
[02:13] <Kuroachia> fryguy: unless there is a way to reconfigure this?
[02:13] <rrowell> I've got a buddy who is trying to install a video card... Total linux newb he is and of course X won't start because it needs a different driver then what it needed when he installed.  X works if he boots from the live CD though so I was curious if there was some dpkg-reconfigure or something that will auto-detect his screen stuff without much (any) input from him...
[02:14] <capitalidea> Ouroborosity: do you have an NVIDIA card?
[02:14] <Fryguy--> Kuroachia: so then start using some of the other tools that I mentioned and doing more research into the matter.  Although ubuntu very much wants you to be using network-manager
[02:14] <encryptz> rrowell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:14] <icanhasadmin> zezu: i'm restarting too, video driver issue, i'll be back in a min
[02:14] <Fryguy--> rrowell: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:14] <yowshi> wouldnt the normal dpkg thing from xorg.cong work?
[02:14] <Fryguy--> shit i got beat
[02:14] <nicodarious> rrowell, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:14] <encryptz> Fryguy--: ツ
[02:14] <Ouroborosity> capitalidea: y es
[02:14] <robby_kane> can i ask a question
[02:14] <yowshi> i can never remember all those seemingly random letters
[02:14] <icanhasadmin> encryptz:  is that a japanese "shi" or "ji"? :P
[02:14] <Fryguy--> encryptz: my terminal doesn't do unicode..
[02:14] <cahone> Fryguy--, So how do you install iTunes?  All i see are windows and mac downloads?
[02:15] <yowshi> i just call it the dpkg thing
[02:15] <encryptz> icanhasadmin: you know your katakana, eh?
[02:15] <Kuroachia> fryguy: ok thanks, the reason I ask is because whenever I move somewhere (think like from home to school) I have to restart the manager completely in order to view the current networks. Is this normal?
[02:15] <exegesis> How do I format an external hdd?
[02:15] <Fryguy--> cahone: windows applications typically run in linux just fine via wine.  if you have further needs than that, you can run a virtualized instance of windows using virtualbox
[02:15] <icanhasadmin> encryptz: boku no nihongo ga warui da :(
[02:15] <Fryguy--> Kuroachia: no idea, i never use wireless on my machines
[02:15] <capitalidea> Ouroborosity: try it with nosplash
[02:15] <cahone> Fryguy--,  hmm interesting
[02:15] <Kuroachia> fryguy: okie dokie thanks though :)
[02:16] <robby_kane> itunes sucks... sorry to say it... but i was wondering if i have 2 partions of ubuntu how can i acces the files on 1 partion
[02:16] <Ouroborosity> sorry, help a newbie out, nosplash?
[02:16] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: just mount the other partition
[02:16] <capitalidea> read the boot options page and use the option "nosplash" per the instructions there
[02:16] <Fryguy--> Ouroborosity: a newbie, who runs LFS?  lol
[02:16] <patrick_> is it possible to play video games (diablo, wow etc) on ubuntu using wine? or some other method?
[02:16] <robby_kane> Fryguy: how?
[02:16] <yowshi> Fryguy--, whats lfs?
[02:16] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: using the 'mount' command
[02:17] <robby_kane> how do i chak what its listed as to mount it
[02:17] <encryptz> icesword: unfortunately, i don't know japanese. i know my unicode though. ツ
[02:17] <robby_kane> check*
[02:17] <rrowell> encryptz, Fryguy-- nicodarious : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is asking a million questions, any way to make it a bit less verbose?
[02:17] <Fryguy--> yowshi: 'linux from scratch' a project that involves building an entire linux system from scratch by manually compiling everything from source
[02:17] <yowshi> oh wait linux from scratch
[02:17] <Ouroborosity> ahh
[02:17] <encryptz> meh. bad tab complete. and he left
[02:17] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: well what drive on your system is it on
[02:17] <icesword> encryptz, pardon??????
[02:17] <Fryguy--> rrowell: no
[02:17] <robby_kane> i only have 1 hard drive
[02:17] <robby_kane> it has 2 partions
[02:17] <Fryguy--> rrowell: try -phigh, like i suggested
[02:17] <rrowell> ah
[02:18] <encryptz> icesword: sorry. meant for someone who left, so your nick got the tab complete
[02:18] <clearzen> rrowell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:18] <icesword> hmm
[02:18] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: so mkdir /mnt/tmp; mount /dev/sdXN /mnt/tmp  where X is the drive and N is the partition number
[02:18] <robby_kane> im going to reinstall ubuntu but want to store a file for later use
[02:19] <nikrud> yowshi: how's your sudo issue? any resolution? (for my notes)
[02:19] <robby_kane> how do i check witch partion is witch
[02:19] <yowshi> unop_, is writing up a script
[02:19] <robby_kane> is there a comand to check?
[02:19] <encryptz> robby_kane: sudo fdisk -l
[02:19] <nicodarious> rrowell dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:19] <encryptz> robby_kane: will list your disks and partitions
[02:19] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: mount them and look. or use a tool like fdisk to get more information, or use df to see what is currently mounted and make inferences from that
[02:19] <odla> what is the notifier that tells me i need to update my packages in gnome called?
[02:19] <patrick_> how do you add backgrounds so when you zoom out of the cube desktop you see like the sky in the back instead of just the grey area
[02:19] <nikrud> yowshi: ah, reset all permissions?
[02:19] <clearzen> odla: update-manager
[02:19] <rrowell> Fryguy--, Thanks, perfect
[02:20] <nicodarious> rrowell it'll ask a little less questions with the -phigh options.
[02:20] <yowshi> nikrud it is generally thought now that my problem lies in some general file system problems i caused sop he is writing up a script to find which files are fucked up
[02:20] <Fryguy--> patrick_: #compiz-fusion
[02:20] <rrowell> nicodarious, Only asks one about screen resolution for me
[02:20] <rrowell> perfect
[02:20] <patrick_> fryguy no one in there seems to respond at all
[02:20] <yowshi> man i cause the wierdest and most insane problems i tell ya
[02:20] <nikrud> yowshi: thanks. And, don't forget this is supposed to be a family friendly, G rated channel :)
[02:20] <Fryguy--> patrick_: that's unfortunate.
[02:20] <patrick_> haha
[02:20] <yowshi> sorry
[02:20] <nicodarious> rrowell you need to pick your video driver though?
[02:20] <robby_kane> what is a linux swap?
[02:21] <robby_kane> it was listed in my dives
[02:21] <patrick_> #compiz-fusion
[02:21] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: a partition for swap space (virtual memory that's stored on the hard drive)
[02:21] <patrick_> oops haha
[02:21] <yowshi> i once erased my entire grub by accident while trying to add my gentoo installation into the boot list
[02:21] <nicodarious> rrowell you could do this too:  vim into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the video driver manually to vesa
[02:21] <robby_kane> ok i see
[02:21] <capitalidea> ...
[02:21] <capitalidea> o.0
[02:22] <icanhasadmin> yay i'm back
[02:22] <nicodarious> rrowell that way you can bypass the questions, but still get a base video till you can get your drivers for nvidia installed.
[02:23] <nikrud> yowshi: as they say, with great power comes 'Oh crap I messed it up again'
[02:23] <DareDevyl> i have no idea to change its default runlevel to 1,ubuntu has no /etc/inittab
[02:23] <user18> che_BT
[02:23] <DareDevyl> ?
[02:23] <yowshi> LOL yep nikrud that about sums it up
[02:23] <Flannel> DareDevyl: /etc/event.d/
[02:23] <aetaric> is udev required by gutsy?
[02:23] <clearzen> DareDevyl: sudo telinit 1
[02:23] <nikrud> DareDevyl: why would you want a default of 1, anyway?
[02:23] <yowshi> they should hand over all future devs of ubuntu to me for 1 month to se ehow idiot proof they are
[02:24] <aetaric> but is it a req.
[02:24] <aetaric> can i remove it?
[02:24] <yowshi> like every month i gotta go to into failsafe mode to fix something i screwed up
[02:24] <Fryguy--> aetaric: why do you want to play with things that make up the fundamentals of ubuntu as a distribution?
[02:24] <zezu> icanhasadmin: that didn't help :|
[02:25] <icanhasadmin> zezu: still nothing? you checked alsamixer?
[02:25] <DareDevyl> Flannel clearzen thanks , nikrud  my X is crashed
[02:25] <Crane> help. somehow a directory disappeared. I have no clue how, my best guess someone did rm. is it possible to recover it or lost forever?
[02:25] <aetaric> im trying to swich from debian's etch to gutsy.....its breaking (like i would expect.)
[02:26] <zezu> icanhasadmin: yes, its looks ok to me, master and pcm are up high and not muted
[02:26] <Fryguy--> Crane: it's possible to recover, but generally pretty hard.. outside of the scope of this channel
[02:26] <nikrud> DareDevyl: ah, hit escape when you see something about grub starting, then select recovery mode. Drops you into runlevel 1
[02:26] <aetaric> i didn't want to build it from the ground up again
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> zezu: That's extremely odd, to be honest with you. Sorry, it's out of my realm of expertise now :-/ see if you can asd crimsun when he is around
[02:26] <robby_kane> ok how do i unmount using the comand line
[02:26] <Fryguy--> aetaric: debian and ubuntu are different operating systems, you can't switch from one to another..
[02:26] <Fryguy--> robby_kane: use 'umount'
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> zezu: er, i mean "ask" crimsun lol
[02:27] <zezu> icanhasadmin: thanks
[02:27] <Crane> it's not unrecoverable (someone has a copy but is not around for another 3 days) so I thought more of a undelete option
[02:27] <yowshi> rpbby umount mount point no?
[02:27] <icanhasadmin> zezu: sorry :(
[02:27] <aetaric> i was hoping you weren't going to say that..oh well.....destroy and recreate
[02:27] <yowshi> like umount cdrom0
[02:27] <DareDevyl> nikrud ok. which file should i change ?
[02:28] <Azodon> is there a better system monitor program availble besides the one that comes with gnome
[02:28] <aetaric> top
[02:28] <Fryguy--> Azodon: what do you want to monitor that you are lacking?
[02:28] <nikrud> DareDevyl: you shouldn't need to change any file if you enter recovery mode. Otherwise, it's rc-default
[02:28] <Azodon> yea top, but GUI
[02:29] <aetaric> lol GUI HA
[02:29] <aetaric> although ubuntu is a GUI friendly system
[02:29] <icanhasadmin> there is one.. somewhere.. it's called something.. but i never use it
[02:29] <yowshi> wait isnt gnomes system monitor gui based? or am i thinking of the processes monitor
[02:29] <icanhasadmin> top is awesome
[02:29] <Azodon> there is nithing wrong with eye cady, it's 2000 frekin 8 not 1987
[02:29] <Fryguy--> i like htop more
[02:30] <aetaric> nothing is wrong with eyecandy...on a desktop....not my $20,000 server
[02:30] <yowshi> i prefer guis because i make to many tpyo's
[02:30] <Fryguy--> i prefer cli's because it's faster and more efficient for me
[02:30] <aetaric> eyecandy takes up proc power...
[02:30] <cahone> When you download with FireFox where are the files located?  I am trying to find a file to install with Wine
[02:30] <yowshi> fryguy to each his own. for me a gui is truely faster
[02:31] <Fryguy--> cahone: by default they go to your home directory i think
[02:31] <icanhasadmin> Oh god, here comes the gui vs command line argument..
[02:31] <Positronic> Default is desktop I though
[02:31] <Fryguy--> yowshi: then you probably haven't learned cli tools sufficiently
[02:31] <eegore> anyone here familiar with Sun Netra T1's and installing a server on them?>
[02:31] <aetaric> i can be
[02:31] <yowshi> Fryguy--, i used to use dos fluently but then windows came along and i didnt touch much of a command line for like 10 years
[02:31] <capitalidea> I prefer my preference because Jesus loves me more when I use it and you are a cretenous scoundrel who should be locked up and never allowed near any transistor for the rest of your natural life, and then some. Idiot.
[02:31] <noble-> what's the name of the package for screenlets? I can't find it now.
[02:31] <Fryguy--> yowshi: dos is an extremely poor example of a cli
[02:32] <robby_kane> ty for helping me mount a drive
[02:32] <capitalidea> Hey guys, which is better: Vi or Emacs?
[02:32] <aetaric> dos is suckware
[02:32] <aetaric> both
[02:32] <Fryguy--> capitalidea: lol, i'll laugh, and then answer (vim)
[02:32] <robby_kane> im going to reintall ubuntu now lol
[02:32] <capitalidea> Gnome or Fluxbox?
[02:32] <yowshi> Fryguy--, maybe it is but trhe point is i havent touched a cli in like 10 years then i come to linux and well massive lists of commands to remember and my typo rate and such...yeah guis are my friend
[02:32] <Fryguy--> we are split 50/50 vim/emacs at work, gets pretty funny sometimes ;)
[02:32] <aetaric> i use both
[02:32] <capitalidea> (the answer to that was ratpoison is better)
[02:33] <aetaric> i don't use gnome i use kde
[02:33] <capitalidea> Wrong answer.
[02:33] <yowshi> capitalidea, gnome for the win
[02:33] <nikrud> offtopic but dos gave more control than windows (especially with some extensions you could get or write)
[02:33] <TuxOtaku> okay, I have a bit of an odd question....is there any way I can get a copy of ubotu's help scripts it uses?? I'm trying to build a similar help bot on another network (it's not ubuntu related though)
[02:33] <Fryguy--> yowshi: which goes back to my point, you haven't learned cli tools sufficiently, so of course you aren't going to prefer them and you are going to find them slower
[02:33] <capitalidea> (shot) you ded
[02:33] <aetaric> lol
[02:34] <yowshi> Fryguy--, yeah but we arent in the commodore age any more guis are widely dispersed everywhere. while i admit i like the cli in linux i would like a gui for most of what i do
[02:34] <aetaric> cisco routers.....cli or interface
[02:34] <TuxOtaku> aetaric, cli
[02:34] <TuxOtaku> :)
[02:34] <Fryguy--> yowshi: not really.  at my job all of my files are located on an nfs mount that is mounted on a development server that I connect to.  if I REALLY want to I can mount nfs on my local workstation, but it's easier and faster to just work on the development server directly
[02:34] <aetaric> w00t
[02:34] <morgan> can anyone help me with setting up a custom resolution?
[02:35] <Fryguy--> yowshi: just because your experience indicates that guis are prevalent doesn't necessarily make it true
[02:35] <noble-> can anyone tell me why screenlets doesn't show up in the package manager? I had it last week now nothing.
[02:35] <TuxOtaku> !ubotu
[02:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:36] <nikrud> noble-: screenlets were never in ubuntu repos, you may be thinking of gdesklets, or had a 3d party repo enabled
[02:36] <mixed> anyone knows how to create a ghost back up of your partitions?  I want to create a backup of my distro before I make any changes to it, I just finished installing it
[02:36] <alanbshepard70> does anyone know of a package that will allow me to recover files from a hard drive that had it's file table corrupted? The table has been restored and before anything is written to the drive I'm hoping to avoid 100% data loss.
[02:36] <aetaric> buy a 2nd pc and install the norton crapware to it
[02:37] <capitalidea> alanbshepard70: disk forensic tools I am guessing yeah?
[02:37] <capitalidea> I think there are some in the repos
[02:37]  * capitalidea looks
[02:37] <Fryguy--> mixed: probably look at dumpe2fs
[02:37] <alanbshepard70> capitalidea: Yea something like that. Is something like that in the repos?
[02:37] <cahone> Well Wine failed to install iTunes
[02:37] <mixed> Fryguy, I will google it, thanks!
[02:37] <Fryguy--> mixed: whoops nevermind, that's not the same as bsd's dump at all
[02:38] <silent_> on a scale of 1-10, how lame is running cygwin through wine?
[02:38] <aetaric> cahone: XD did you think it would work?
[02:38] <mixed> Fryguy, ok thanks either way! LoL
[02:38] <Fryguy--> mixed: apt-get install dump and try that
[02:38] <cahone> keeps saying this installer requires the computer to be running XP or Vista
[02:38] <aetaric> silent_: -1
[02:38] <mixed> anyone knows how to create a restore point in ubuntu?
[02:38] <cahone> aetaric, yes Fryguy said Wine would install and run windows programs
[02:39] <yowshi> cant run nTune with wine though :(
[02:39] <nikrud> mixed: create a backup
[02:39] <aetaric> it will......but i wouldn't just expect it to work all uber-like out of the box like the rest of ubuntu (minus mp3 support)
[02:39] <capitalidea> alanbshepard70: foremost is one such program
[02:39] <cahone> Fryguy said iTunes will run on Linux with Wine but i dont know exactly how to make it work
[02:40] <aetaric> you can play WoW on wine though XD
[02:40] <mixed> mikrud,  how do you recommend I should create the backup?  Is there a utility similar to ghost except for linu?
[02:40] <yowshi> try winecfg and adding it to specifically run as a winxp prog
[02:40] <MUS4SHIII> can anyone help me with an fstab issue?
[02:40] <icanhasadmin> ubuntu works mp3s fine out of the box. takes all of 2 seconds to install restricted drivers
[02:40] <silent_> I set up my bro's laptop with gutsy... he plays WoW regularly on it
[02:40] <aetaric> if it can be done...its called www.google.com
[02:40] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: just ask a question
[02:40] <capitalidea> who cares about itunes on linux when gtkpod works great
[02:40] <alanbshepard70> capitalidea: Thanks I'll check it out.
[02:40] <capitalidea> alanbshepard70: you can find more
[02:41] <cahone> will gtkpod play my iTunes purchased files and movies
[02:41] <silent_> apparently amarok also accesses up to the iphone
[02:41] <capitalidea> by searching for 'forensic' from Synaptic
[02:41] <silent_> for music and stuff
[02:41] <aetaric> it does
[02:41] <icanhasadmin> hint for profit: don't purchase DRMed anything
[02:41] <aetaric> idk about the purchase file though
[02:41] <nikrud> cahone: if they are drmed, no
[02:41] <silent_> what is drm?
[02:41] <silent_> ;P
[02:41] <Fryguy--> hint for big profit: don't buy any form of media :)
[02:41] <MUS4SHIII> I can't get one of my mounts to mount with permission for all users to have access. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60254/ it is the last line about mythtvfs
[02:41] <aetaric> digital rights management
[02:41] <JohnRobert> what's the name of that alsa oss wrapper program?
[02:41] <nikrud> silent_: it's a way to keep your player your namesake
[02:41] <cahone> This is a real pain
[02:41] <capitalidea> Did you mean _drum_?
[02:42] <alanbshepard70> capitalidea: I found three including your recommendation, if they don't work I'll keep looking. Thanks again.
[02:42] <aetaric> no he ment drm
[02:42] <capitalidea> np
[02:42] <icanhasadmin> Fryguy--: please don't encourage people to steal things :P
[02:42] <silent_> nikrud, I found a way to keep my wallet full :P
[02:42] <aetaric> not steal.......but not drm
[02:42] <capitalidea> No results for 'drm'. Thank you for choosing Windows Live Search!
[02:42] <unop_> yowshi, you there?
[02:42] <aetaric> try DRM or digital rights management
[02:42] <yowshi> unop_, yes
[02:42] <nikrud> silent_: not to sound pompus, but I honor _all_ licenses ;p
[02:43] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: what permissions do you want it to be mounted with?
[02:43] <silent_> nikrud: I'm a poor university student
[02:43] <morgan> hey quick question, I just installed mintLinux and some text is really small while others is normal, anyone have an idea where to fix that?
[02:43] <aetaric> lol
[02:43] <unop_> yowshi, can you allow private msgs ..?
[02:43] <silent_> nikrud, haven't a dollar in the world
[02:43] <Fryguy--> morgan: wrong channel
[02:43] <nikrud> silent_: I'm not wealthy. And have limited media
[02:43] <MUS4SHIII> I would like to be able to read and write with my primary user
[02:43] <morgan> Fryguy its basically ubuntu and no one is on that channel
[02:43] <silent_> nikrud: stop listening to your morals
[02:43] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: so use uid and gid options to set it to the uid and gid of your user (default 1000)
[02:43] <silent_> ;P
[02:44] <capitalidea> No results for 'DRM or digital rights management'. Are you a terrorist?
[02:44] <yowshi> unop_, done already why wouldnt they be allowed
[02:44] <silent_> I sure am
[02:44] <Fryguy--> morgan: "basically ubuntu" isn't ubuntu.  join mint's support channel for mint supportr
[02:44] <JohnRobert> digital restrictions management
[02:44] <nikrud> silent_: and I didn't want to sound judgemental, sorry if I did. rflol. Ok, I'm enough off topic, this strait jacket they gave me sucks
[02:44] <aetaric> wtf no windows live sucks search on google
[02:44] <morgan> bugger
[02:44] <capitalidea> heh
[02:44] <silent_> nikrud: lol
[02:44] <morgan> you probably know the answer too
[02:44] <Fryguy--> morgan: probably
[02:45] <MUS4SHIII> I just added rw to the last line, but my "sudo mount -a" says "fuse: mountpoint is not empty fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option"
[02:45] <morgan> Fryguy-- yeah I use that word a lot lol
[02:45] <yowshi> unop__, why wouldnt they be allowed?
[02:45] <silent_> apparently age of empires III runs with wine
[02:45] <silent_> I'm trying now
[02:45] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: use uid and gid like i said
[02:45] <unop__> yowshi, let me try pming you again
[02:45] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: and don't mount to an existing location
[02:45] <yowshi> if it is disabled i dont know where it is disabled
[02:46] <yowshi> unless your trying to dcc pm me
[02:46] <unop__> yowshi, ok, pm me then
[02:46] <Fryguy--> god i hate when people message me..
[02:46] <Fryguy--> i have enough windows to deal with as it is
[02:46] <aetaric> lol cli pwns
[02:46] <Fryguy--> aetaric: ?
[02:47] <Fryguy--> aetaric: yes it does
[02:47] <aetaric> lol
[02:47] <Fryguy--> if only finch weren't so awful
[02:47] <yowshi> hmmm on a router but simple query should work
[02:47] <yowshi> works on every other irc server
[02:48] <yowshi> no wonder
[02:48] <yowshi> i am ajn unregistered user
[02:48] <Frailmage> How do I open up ports with Ubuntu?
[02:48] <Fryguy--> Frailmage: there is no firewall installed by default on ubuntu
[02:48] <aetaric> stop iptables........
[02:48] <Frailmage> okay then.
[02:49] <unop__> Frailmage, you run the service/application -- it opens ports (or rather, it listens on ports)
[02:49] <Frailmage> Okay thanks.
[02:49] <aetaric> anyone know if centos is a good server dist
[02:49] <Fryguy--> aetaric: it is, we use it at work
[02:49] <unop__> aetaric, that depends on how you define "good" :)
[02:49] <Fryguy--> not my first preference, as I prefer debian based systems, or bsd if possible, but it works well for our operations engineers
[02:50] <yowshi> query unop__
[02:50] <unop__> yowshi, you dont seem to be getting my replies -- i see yours tho
[02:50] <yowshi> wierd
[02:50] <Fryguy--> you need registered nick to send messages on this server
[02:51] <nikrud> unop__: you sure you have this alias registered?
[02:51] <m0ng0ape> why would I be able to use smbclient -L xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -U samdude (works perfectly after password prompt), but then my winxp system gets bad password errors when trying to connect to same system ?  this is driving me NUTS
[02:51] <Fryguy--> m0ng0ape: winxp or vista?
[02:51] <unop__> nikrud, hmm, didnt realize that -- i'd been disconnected and xchat's logged me on another alias
[02:51] <oboy03> how do i scan mounted disk with avast?
[02:52] <unop__> yowshi, gimme a sec
[02:52] <yowshi> ok
[02:52] <m0ng0ape> Fryguy--: winxp
[02:53] <Fryguy--> is the directory you are looking at browsable?
[02:53] <Fryguy--> m0ng0ape: how are you trying to connect to it on windows
[02:53] <Positronic> is Microsoft's Zune recognized by Ubuntu?
[02:53] <Fryguy--> m0ng0ape: and are you specifying a domain on windows
[02:53] <Azodon> my ubuntu 7.10 doezsnt seem to be using my swap partiton at all. system mon say  0 of o used. i have a swap partion . maybe during install it didnt get set to mount? is there a way to fix this ? my swap is sda2
[02:53] <jetscreamer> Azodon: it isn't using it, no need
[02:54] <m0ng0ape> net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:samdude
[02:54] <jetscreamer> Azodon: do swapon -s
[02:54] <aetaric> swap /dev/sda2
[02:54] <m0ng0ape> Fryguy--: net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:samdude
[02:54] <jetscreamer> Azodon: mine gets not used also
[02:54] <aetaric> yeah thats the right vcommand..i would ahvae tabed till i got it
[02:54] <Fryguy--> m0ng0ape: you need to specify a domain as well, depending on how samba is configured
[02:54] <Azodon> ok, but the system monitor says 0 of 0 being used. ok mabey ,no need
[02:54] <Fryguy--> Azodon: is it listed in /etc/fstab ?
[02:55] <Fryguy--> Azodon: what does 'free' tell you about swap
[02:55] <jetscreamer> swapon -s will tell you if it's activated
[02:55] <Azodon> Swap:            0          0          0
[02:55] <aetaric> swapon -a adds right?
[02:55] <jetscreamer> 'mounts' all
[02:55] <jetscreamer> even thought it's not mounting i guess
[02:55] <Azodon>  swapon -a
[02:55] <Azodon> swapon: cannot canonicalize /dev/disk/by-uuid/eba9b7b6-6262-406c-a2e0-e947b430fdc3: No such file or directory
[02:55] <Azodon> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/eba9b7b6-6262-406c-a2e0-e947b430fdc3: No such file or directory
[02:56] <aetaric> ick
[02:56] <jetscreamer> Azodon: don't worry about that, do swapon -s
[02:56] <Fryguy--> check fstab
[02:56] <aetaric> mkswap on that disk?
[02:56] <Lifeisfunny> Does anyone know how to get the 'streamtuner' ap to give a list of categories in the sidebar pane?
[02:56] <leonidaz> hello
[02:56] <m0ng0ape> Fryguy--: net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:WORKGROUP\samdude also fails
[02:57] <leonidaz> hello
[02:57] <Azodon> it is not in fstab
[02:57] <jetscreamer> looks like it is in fstab
[02:57] <leonidaz> hello azodon
[02:57] <austin987> howdy. After upgrading from gutsy to feisty, I no longer have sound. My ac'97 onboard sound is no longer recognzied. $ sudo modprobe ac97_bus does not help, $ aplay -l still lists no sound cards
[02:57] <jetscreamer> but uses uuid
[02:57] <Azodon> jetscreamer:  swapon -s
[02:57] <Azodon> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
[02:58] <jetscreamer> Azodon: ok easy to fix
[02:58] <leonidaz> somebody from mexico?
[02:58] <aetaric> well its a good thing my desktop is XP and my server is ubuntu
[02:58] <austin987> anyone have any suggestions/seen this problem?
[02:58] <jetscreamer> it's listed by uuid in your fstab apparently and all you have to do is comment it out and copy the line but change the new line to /dev/sdb2 or whichever
[02:59] <jetscreamer> Azodon: or, you could mkswap -v1 /dev/whatever and change the uuid to the correct one
[02:59] <Ouroborosity> hey, i'm back
[02:59] <jetscreamer> correct new one or change it to the existing uuid (but no mkswap)
[02:59] <Splash> aya naon
[02:59] <Ouroborosity> so i tried running nosplash
[02:59] <ziggy_> does someone has a suggestion for creating incremental backups? preferably with tar?
[02:59] <Ouroborosity> and i found something
[02:59] <aetaric> austin987:did you google for the problem first? cause i've seen it work b4
[02:59] <Fryguy--> ziggy_: i use rdiff-backup
[03:00] <Ouroborosity> error_code 0x72/0x80
[03:00] <Ouroborosity> mean anything?
[03:00] <ziggy_> does rdif only sync folders or also writes into tar?
[03:00] <aetaric> dang stupi code...forget a space and you look stupid for it
[03:00] <austin987> yes
[03:00] <Ouroborosity> i googled it, and other folks have the exact same problems and error, but no one knows
[03:00] <austin987> also checked ubuntuforums.org
[03:00] <Fryguy--> ziggy_: it doesn't do tars, it keeps an intact filesystem with incremental diffs between executions
[03:01] <yowshi> i wonder if trying to send me that fuile crashed him
[03:01] <anathematic> how do i install a .deb on ubuntu server?
[03:01] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me with ubuntu installation
[03:01] <jetscreamer> dpkg -i
[03:01] <Fryguy--> anathematic: dpkg -i .deb
[03:01] <jetscreamer> anathematic:
[03:01] <anathematic> thanks=D
[03:01] <Malik_> iam stuck at the partioning
[03:01] <m0ng0ape> dpkg -i *.deb
[03:01] <Fryguy--> Malik_: we can't help you until you ask a meaningful question
[03:01] <anathematic> i should write this stuff down
[03:02] <Ouroborosity> anyone?
[03:02] <Malik_> wats a swp partion
[03:02] <Fryguy--> Malik_: it's a partition used to contain virtual memory on your hard drive
[03:02] <austin987> aetaric: typically see ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory (in wine)
[03:02] <aetaric> austin987: no idea
[03:02] <Fryguy--> Malik_: depending on circumstances, the linux kernel will use swap space in place of real system memory
[03:02] <austin987> or ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory (in vlc)
[03:02] <aetaric> alsa
[03:02] <Malik_> frguy--: can u be my guide for a 3 mins i will tell u where iam in the installtion and where iam stuck
[03:02] <Azodon> thanks , brb,
[03:02] <austin987> thanks anyway
[03:03] <Fryguy--> Malik_: just ask questions
[03:03] <m0ng0ape> why would I be able to use smbclient -L xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -U samdude (works perfectly after password prompt), but then my winxp system gets bad password errors when trying to connect to same system ?  this is driving me NUTS.   tried net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:samdude and net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:WORKGROUP\samdude
[03:03] <Malik_> i got the live cd
[03:03] <Malik_> ran it
[03:03] <Fryguy--> don't ask to ask, and don't ask for help, just ask questions
[03:03] <Malik_> and went to installation
[03:03] <aetaric> hmmm alsa was always problematic fo me..........
[03:03] <Malik_> rite now i got a dell 40 gb hd pc
[03:03] <Malik_> with windows xp
[03:03] <rainwalker> where are the settings for network connections stored? I need to delete the one I have for the hotel I'm at so I can re-connect the right way
[03:03] <Malik_> and aim going to hav to have xp on it to
[03:03] <aetaric> swap is a space that ram gets dumped to
[03:03] <whitehat> ok, when I try to turn my voulme on I get this error... no volume control Gsreamer plugins and/or devices found!!! how do I fix please
[03:03] <Malik_> and i donot know how to partion it
[03:03] <Malik_> i ahv never partioned anytin before
[03:03] <Fryguy--> Malik_: why didn't you just use guided
[03:04] <Malik_> cause that does it to the whole disk
[03:04] <Malik_> doesn't it?
[03:04] <Fryguy--> Malik_: no
[03:04] <aetaric> how much ram in system?
[03:04] <whitehat> please the volume prop?
[03:04] <Malik_> does it allow u to use the frree soace
[03:04] <Malik_> 2gb
[03:04] <Fryguy--> Malik_: there's a magical option that basically "installs ubuntu side by side with windows, sets up dual boot automatically and doesn't ask any more questions about it"
[03:04] <Malik_> really
[03:04] <Fryguy--> yes really
[03:04] <Malik_> it will also levae my data D partion alone rite?
[03:04] <whitehat> lol
[03:04] <Fryguy--> Malik_: yes
[03:05] <Malik_> so which option is that agin
[03:05] <aetaric> omg drive names ick
[03:05] <aetaric> guided
[03:05] <Fryguy--> Malik_: guided
[03:05] <whitehat> pleae guys could ya help me with my volume prob?
[03:05] <Malik_> and does it create the swap and root stuff to
[03:05] <Ouroborosity> well ok then
[03:05] <Fryguy--> Malik_: it does everything, correctly
[03:05] <Ouroborosity> i go to ##Linux asking for help
[03:05] <aetaric> if xp is installed it should leave it alone and put it in the boot menu
[03:05] <Malik_> alrite lemme go there and see
[03:05] <Ouroborosity> and in 2 minutes i get harassed, and yelled at by mods
[03:06] <aetaric> lol
[03:06] <whitehat> guys.........................................................
[03:06] <whitehat> please
[03:06] <KingMorpheus> does anybody use ubuntu as a ghost operating system?
[03:06] <tcleval> hey, how can i list the processes that opened a tcp port?
[03:06] <aetaric> is it an alsa proble?
[03:07] <aetaric> white hat
[03:07] <leonidaz> yuy
[03:07] <aetaric> is it an alsa problem?
[03:07] <whitehat> yes!, you have a answer!
[03:07] <Fryguy--> tcleval: use netstat
[03:07] <aetaric> nope i hate alsa
[03:07] <whitehat> alsa ? never heard of also
[03:07] <tcleval> Fryguy-- i ll try it right now
[03:07] <aetaric> advanced llinux sound architecture
[03:07] <aetaric> alsa
[03:07] <whitehat> COuld ya please tell me how to make ubuntu reconzie the laptop speakers
[03:08] <tritium> !sound | whitehat
[03:08] <aetaric> it play your sound
[03:08] <ubotu> whitehat: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:08] <tritium> whitehat: try looking at those docs
[03:08] <insta> anyone have a tutorial on making the "mark as junk" feature in evolution actually work?
[03:08] <vonk> hello :)
[03:08] <KingMorpheus> <---------- wonders if anyone here is usin ubuntu as a ghost operating system and details of that :)
[03:08] <vonk> would anyone have the patience to deal with a noob having ubuntu installation problems?
[03:09] <tritium> KingMorpheus: what do you mean by "ghost"?
[03:09] <insta> vonk just explain what's going on the best you can
[03:09] <Fryguy--> vonk: just ask questions, don't ask to ask
[03:09] <aetaric> no if you want to use "ghost" that is symantic/nortan crap....but thats my opinion
[03:09] <aetaric> and that runs on windows
[03:09] <KingMorpheus> can ubuntu pull files from windows when it needs it tritium??
[03:09] <icanhasadmin> alsa actually works pretty good
[03:09] <tritium> KingMorpheus: yes, it can mount fat and ntfs partitions read and write
[03:09] <jackielii> hithere
[03:09] <vonk> hehe, fair enough :-). My computer has 4 harddrives, all of them are SATA. Windows sits on the first of these disks, and I have tried to install ubuntu on the second disk
[03:10] <aetaric> it kills my laptop all the time
[03:10] <vonk> unfortunately, when i get to grub and try to boot to linux, i get an error 17
[03:10] <vonk> unable to mount selected partition
[03:10] <KingMorpheus> what about drivers, i will be running in sli, can ubuntu support
[03:10] <cahone> Enter the command  ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_64.run to launch the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer. The ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Setup dialog box is displayed. WTF?
[03:10] <vonk> when i try to load windows, i get  an error 13, invalid or unsupported executable format
[03:10] <aetaric> vonk: do you know what kernel you were using?
[03:10] <tritium> cahone: please don't do that
[03:11] <tritium> !ati | cahone
[03:11] <ubotu> cahone: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <vonk> aetaric: i don't. perhaps you can tell me how to figure that out?
[03:11] <KingMorpheus> is amd really doing that good of stuff with ati?
[03:11] <aetaric> are you at the grub menu?
[03:11] <cahone> how do you navigate to the install file in terminal and run it?
[03:11] <vonk> no, i am currently running off the live disc
[03:11] <JohnRobert> I'm having trouble with a bunch of games, they all work fine, but the sound is screwed up if I use an alsa driver, and if I use oss emulation the video takes a framerate hit (although the sound is ok)..any ideas?
[03:12] <JohnRobert> I'm talking about quake2, doom3, ut2003
[03:12] <icanhasadmin> cahone: you're actually in the right folder already, just "sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.3-x86.x86_84.run"
[03:12] <ziggy_> how can I add a timestamp to a filename? I want to create backup tars like this backup20081224-122006.tar
[03:12] <ziggy_> (backupYYYYMMDD-HHMMSS)
[03:12] <tritium> cahone: don't use that, please
[03:12] <JohnRobert> and it's all running on a core 2 duo 2.4ghz, 3gb ram, geforce6 8300 GT
[03:12] <icanhasadmin> ziggy_: sounds like you need to make a fun batch file to do that :D python ftw
[03:12] <cahone> icanhasadmin, so just put sudo in front
[03:12] <ziggy_> bugger, never did before ;-)
[03:13] <cahone> tritium, dont us what?
[03:13] <tritium> cahone: or, if you decide to go through with that, realize that we won't support any ati problems you have
[03:13] <aetaric> hmmmm your best bet would be to press esc when it says so on the screen doing a normal boot and editing the root(hd*,*) line if it is the 2nd drive 1st part. it will be root (hd1,0)
[03:13] <tritium> cahone: non-ubuntu-packaged ati installer .run file
[03:13] <vonk> yup, it is set that way
[03:13] <tritium> !ati | cahone (for the second time)
[03:13] <ubotu> cahone (for the second time): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:13] <m0ng0ape> why would I be able to use smbclient -L xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -U samdude (works perfectly after password prompt), but then my winxp system gets bad password errors when trying to connect to same system ?  tried net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:samdude and net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:WORKGROUP\samdude
[03:13] <infernal_jesus> cahone: su is much better, don't have to bother with sudo
[03:13] <infernal_jesus> cahone: or just login as root :P
[03:13] <tritium> infernal_jesus: wrong answer
[03:13] <icanhasadmin> infernal_jesus: yeah please don't tell him that
[03:14] <aetaric> so your linux root"/" is the first part
[03:14] <infernal_jesus> but that's what it's all about :D
[03:14] <infernal_jesus> :P
[03:14] <infernal_jesus> being root :P
[03:14] <unop> ziggy_, timestamp=$(date '+%Y%m%d-%H%m%S');   # do command with file$timestamp
[03:14] <efirewick> I am trying to install 7.10 on a evo n600c laptop off the live cd, and the partition editor just hangs. Does anyone have a quick fix?
[03:14] <millllmannnn> what is a good alternative to webmin?
[03:14] <tritium> infernal_jesus: no, please don't advise that here.  Sudo is the recommended approach.
[03:14] <Starnestommy> millllmannnn: ebox?
[03:14] <millllmannnn> ive heard its buggy with 7.1
[03:14] <aetaric> su - root owns fyi
[03:14] <Seb> how is the gutsy->hardy dist-upgrade on i386 these days ?
[03:14] <infernal_jesus> tritium: oh ok, oh, oops, it is ubuntu :P sorry
[03:14] <joshritger> can someone help me with keyring manager? it is my first time using a wifi card
[03:15] <Fryguy--> Seb: join #ubuntu+1
[03:15] <Seb> Fryguy--: ah ok
[03:15] <vonk> aetaric: i am not sure i understand youl. when i was in grub and i pressed e, and the line read root (hd1,0)
[03:15] <icanhasadmin> sudo -i ftw
[03:15] <vonk> aetaric: am i supposed to point it to the "/" directory or something?
[03:15] <paNix3d> is anyone fimiliar with commview for wifi?
[03:15] <aetaric> then try (hd1,1)
[03:15] <icanhasadmin> or 0,0
[03:15] <joshritger> !keyring
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <tritium> infernal_jesus: it's channel policy.
[03:16] <aetaric> no it has to mount you root folder to find your kernel to boot the os
[03:16] <vonk> i believe i tried that already. i think my 2nd partition was swap (hd1,1). and i think (hd0,0) is where i have windows
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> oh you have windows, n/m
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> vonk:  you aren't installing on an external hd are you?
[03:16] <vonk> nope
[03:16] <infernal_jesus> tritium: ok :)
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> n/m then, sorry :)
[03:17] <cahone> This is a Nightmare...why cant i simply click on a dam install file and then thing works
[03:17] <vonk> perhaps this is relevant, when i boot to the live disc, i need to edit the boot options to take off the 'quiet' and 'splash' tags or else it just black screens
[03:17] <vonk> and sits there and wont get anywhere
[03:17] <joshritger> I just setup ubuntu with wifi for the first time, i type in my password and it connects. do i let keyring manager allow once or allow so it will remember the passkey
[03:17] <tritium> cahone: I've given you URLs to follow for ati.
[03:17] <Fryguy--> cahone: we gave you plenty of resources to follow
[03:17] <vonk> when i take off those, at one point i see a "buffer I/O error on device fd0 logical, block 0"
[03:17] <tritium> joshritger: that's up to you
[03:17] <icanhasadmin> vonk:  that could be an acpi issue
[03:17] <cahone> Ya but they dont make sense
[03:17] <Fryguy--> cahone: so then go and install windows
[03:17] <vonk> followed by another line end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, logical disc 0
[03:18] <joshritger> tritium: what is the difference? I couldn't find any documentation
[03:18] <Fryguy--> cahone: what do you want from us
[03:18] <vonk> and it says that several times
[03:18] <aetaric> vonk fd0 is you floppy
[03:18] <tritium> cahone: they make sense
[03:18] <aetaric> thats so weird
[03:18] <vonk> ah, okay. well i have unplugged the floppy
[03:18] <cahone> so i got to learn how to program to run this crap
[03:18] <fevel> how can I save the positioning of my windows when I close them?
[03:18] <Fryguy--> cahone: not at all
[03:18] <tritium> cahone: no, not at all
[03:18] <cahone> omg well off to read my but off
[03:18] <Netham45> how do I keep a monitor from shutting off?
[03:18] <tritium> cahone: read the URLs
[03:18] <xq> cahone: No, you just need to learn to learn ;)
[03:18] <Fryguy--> cahone: nobody has asked or directed you to a link that involves editing source code as far as I know
[03:18] <vonk> icanhasadmin: it might be an acpi issue indeed.. there was some confusing stuff going on with the discs on this computer from the get go
[03:19] <fbc> How do you replace the vista bootloader with grub?
[03:19] <aetaric> hey can someone tell me if mounting a disk is possible on alive cd
[03:19] <icanhasadmin> vonk: laptop? and if so what type?
[03:19] <Fryguy--> cahone: you obviously want to just go and use windows, so go and use windows
[03:19] <vonk> icanhasadmin: nope, it is a desktop that i have built myself
[03:19] <cahone> well the learning curve is tremendous thats all
[03:19] <tritium> joshritger: it's a matter of if you want to type your password each time you log in, or if you want the keyring manager to always remember it
[03:19] <xq> Linux, no matter the distro, takes some getting used to
[03:19] <icanhasadmin> vonk: very confusing. sorry i don't know a lot. just try to help where i can :)
[03:19] <tritium> cahone: it's a few minutes of reading
[03:19] <Fryguy--> cahone: so was windows when you first started using it
[03:19] <vonk> icanhasadmin: anything you can help with is appreciated :-)
[03:19] <aetaric> thats so wierd
[03:19] <Fryguy--> cahone: if you aren't willing to take the time to learn a new operating system, then don't
[03:20] <aetaric> is it sata or ide?
[03:20] <vonk> aetaric: i am quite confused myself :-/
[03:20] <vonk> it is SATA
[03:20] <cahone> well im trying but im also trying to get up and running quick
[03:20] <Netham45> How do I keep a screen from timing out and blanking?
[03:20] <xq> cahone: It will become easier with time. :) Actually, you'll look back and appreciate the learning and reading. Trust me
[03:20] <tritium> cahone: summary: use System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger
[03:20] <cahone> sorry im just frustrated thats all
[03:20] <aetaric> try this sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[03:20] <tritium> cahone: 20 seconds of reading would have shown you that, cahone
[03:20] <vonk> aetaric: i can do that from the live disc, right?
[03:20] <Fryguy--> cahone: of course you are, and you have been, for some time.  being frustrated doesn't get things done, getting things done gets things done
[03:20] <fbc> How do you replace the vista bootloader with grub? I currently have a dual boot system and have decided to go ubuntu all the way!
[03:21] <aetaric> i think so...im bankking on it
[03:21] <xq> cahone: Maybe try to do it when you have a little patience and just a few more minutes of time :\ I understand your frustration of the switch. But do have a bit of patience and understand there is a bit of a curve.
[03:21] <Fryguy--> fbc: ?? you are booting ubuntu with vista's bootloader?
[03:21] <fbc> Fryguy--,  yes
[03:21] <vonk> aetaric: okay, i did it. no messages display
[03:21] <vonk> just another line for me to enter stuff into in the terminal :)
[03:21] <xq> cahone: Just bear with us and bear with Linux. You will appreciate the change. There are many, many advantages :)
[03:21] <aetaric> cd /mnt
[03:21] <aetaric> ls
[03:21] <tritium> cahone: also, you have to be willing to listen.  We've told you many times about those instructions, and you kept ignoring, and asking for help on that .run file
[03:22] <Netham45> o.o
[03:22] <xq> Floodbot going whacko?
[03:22] <Netham45> !op
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[03:22] <xq> (yeah, Floodbot is going whacko)
[03:22] <Fryguy--> lol
[03:22] <Fryguy--> fbc: this applies to you, though the title is misleading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:22] <vonk> that was odd
[03:23] <vonk> alright
[03:23] <tritium> Indeed.
[03:23] <aetaric> cd /mnt/boot/grub
[03:23] <vonk> aetaric: i do ls and i see desktop documents music pitures public templates videos
[03:23] <vonk> aetaric: okay, there
[03:23] <aetaric> ls that
[03:23] <vonk> i ls and see menu.lst as well as all other fun grub things
[03:23] <icanhasadmin> menu.lst is my hero
[03:23] <aetaric> vim menu.lst
[03:24] <aetaric> lmao
[03:24] <nik> hello umm are the wacom drivers available for ubuntu yet?
[03:24] <vonk> okay
[03:24] <vonk> luckily i know how to use vi (i am not a total linux nub :-))
[03:24] <tritium> nik: for quite some time, yes
[03:24] <xq> nik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[03:24] <nondescript> hey sexy people
[03:24] <Fryguy--> nik: pretty sure wacom drivers have been available forever
[03:24] <nik> thanks
[03:24] <Netham45> hey nondescript
[03:24] <aetaric> the insert key or i allows you to edit this doc. when done hit esc the type :wq!
[03:25] <vonk> aetaric: title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[03:25] <fbc> Fryguy--,  Which part of that applies to me? the part about overwriting the windows bootloader???
[03:25] <vonk> aetaric: root            (hd1,0)
[03:25] <Fryguy--> fbc: yes
[03:25] <xq> nik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 is also valid to your case, most likely.
[03:25] <vonk> aetaric: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=e992a327-7f95-4291-adce-fef15cfa7870 ro quiet splash
[03:25] <xq> nik: have fun!
[03:25] <aetaric> chage to (hd1,1)
[03:25] <vonk> okay
[03:25] <aetaric> hit esc then type :wq!
[03:26] <Fryguy--> for some reason I giggle whenever people recite super basic vim commands :)
[03:26] <aetaric> lol
[03:26] <vonk> aetaric: it is write protected
[03:26] <aetaric> vim for edit emacs for program
[03:26] <vonk> i guess i need to sudo vim it
[03:26] <aetaric> type :q!
[03:26] <Fryguy--> vonk: yes
[03:27] <hischild> how can i see what the device name is of my hd when it's nto mounted by command line?
[03:27] <aetaric> and run sudo vim menu.lst then make the change
[03:27] <Fryguy--> aetaric: i use vim for programming as well (albeit with a .vimrc and .vim/ that would rival some emacs setups)
[03:27] <vonk> alright, success
[03:27] <fevel> how can I reposition my windows
[03:27] <fevel> ?
[03:27] <vonk> aetaric: shall i reboot now?
[03:27] <unop_> hischild, mount ?
[03:27] <tritium> fevel: with the mouse
[03:27] <Fryguy--> hischild: it will probably be /dev/sdX, where x is either a, b, c, or d
[03:27] <hischild> unop_, it's unmounted so it doesn't show up under mount
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> fevel: you'll need a good saw, preferrably circular.. and soem carpentry skills
[03:27] <aetaric> you shall reboot and pray lol if that don't work then i got nothing
[03:27] <vonk> aetaric: also, i should have my 2nd harddrive (sdb) as the first in my boot list, right?
[03:27] <vonk> hehe, okay
[03:27] <unop_> hischild, ohh, misread your typo :)
[03:28] <hischild> Fryguy-- i'm looking for a way to be sure
[03:28] <fevel> tritium,  but when I close them they default to the corner
[03:28] <Fryguy--> fevel: assuming you are using a standard ubuntu install, window management works just like you'd expect it to
[03:28] <unop_> hischild, fdisk -l
[03:28] <vonk> i'll do it :-). see you in a few minutes. thanks for the help
[03:28] <aetaric> it can be anywhere
[03:28] <HardyOne> to install a app into /usr/share I would move the .bin file to that directory first?
[03:28] <aetaric> np
[03:28] <hischild> unop_, a thanks
[03:28] <fevel> Fryguy--,  cant I rearrange the windows permanently?
[03:28] <Fryguy--> fevel: I'm not using the standard ubuntu window manager, so I don't know if it supports that
[03:29] <fevel> wat you using?
[03:29] <fevel> enlightment?
[03:29] <tritium> HardyOne: if you insist on installing non-ubuntu-packaged software, you really should put it under /usr/local
[03:29] <Fryguy--> fevel: no
[03:29] <Fryguy--> fevel: xmonad
[03:29] <qcjn> hi, anyone uses mpd, i want to know my comprehension of it
[03:29] <efirewick> has anyone heard of partition editor hanging when trying to install 7.10?
[03:29] <unop_> HardyOne, but a .bin file might be an installer not the actual program executable -- like the java one
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> efirewick: it happens.... i've had it happen
[03:30] <Marupa> Approximately how much does a 'settled in' installation of Ubuntu take?  I estimated 5GB, but it seems to be pushing it....On that note, what places usually take the most space, and how do I clean them out?
[03:30] <Fryguy--> tritium: and if it's prepackaged, like a .bin, it should be in /opt
[03:30] <xq> qcjn: what do you want to know about MPD?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> efirewick: i've found the best thing to do, is partition the drive, prior to installing, then install.
[03:30] <fevel> Fryguy--, seems pretty cool
[03:30] <Fryguy--> Marupa: my ubuntu install is like 2.5 gigs not counting my home directory
[03:30] <HardyOne> unop, it is the installer so it would install to /usr/share by default?
[03:30] <Marupa> Fryguy--, Not including my /home either.
[03:30] <HardyOne> tritium, noted :)
[03:31] <efirewick> That is what I was going for... just utilizing some time while downloading some iso's...
[03:31] <qcjn> xq: from what i understand, gmpc and phpm2 are clients for mpd... but is jinzora similar to phpm2
[03:32] <unop_> HardyOne, that depends on whether the installer installs to the current directory (.) or not -- in most cases, the installer has hardcoded paths and it doesnt matter where you run the installer ffrom, the installed files always land up where they should do
[03:32] <efirewick> the whole drive is ntfs right now. so i figured it had a funky problem.
[03:32] <HardyOne> unop_, ok thank you
[03:32] <qcjn> xq: or is jinzora different
[03:32] <Fryguy--> qcjn: jinzora is a replacement for all of mpd
[03:33]  * Krozy is getting giddy about Hardy Heron
[03:33] <lee___> Yeah, I seriously need some help .. Something is seriously wrong I think
[03:33] <xq> qcjn: MPG is just a remote access DAEMON/"server" for playing music files from your P.C. while you are on another P.C./laptop/workstation or whatever (at work, on a LAN, wherever). As long as the client supports it. It provides music playback over a network...it can ALSO act as a client if you want it to though.
[03:33] <lee___> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:33] <lee___> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:33] <lee___> (firefox-bin:16473): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:33] <xq> qcjn: Jinzora is kind of the same thing so it would replace it entirely like Fryguy-- just said
[03:33] <lee___> I can't run anything for some reason, can someone help?
[03:33] <Fryguy--> lee___: restart X?
[03:34] <lee___> I did
[03:34] <qcjn> xq: ok, it's like a kit
[03:34] <xq> qcjn: Jinzora is easier to use and is friendlier to a lot more platforms -- web based etc.
[03:34] <unop_> lee___, how are you attempting to start firefox?
[03:34] <Fryguy--> lee___: what is the output of ls -a ~/.[xX]*
[03:34] <m0ng0ape> why would I be able to use smbclient -L xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -U samdude (works perfectly after password prompt), but then my winxp system gets bad password errors when trying to connect to same system ?  tried net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:samdude and net use x: \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share /USER:WORKGROUP\samdude
[03:34] <tritium> qcjn: I use mt-daapd
[03:35] <xq> qcjn: Basically. Kind of like how we have to choose between which mp3 player we want to use to play a song when we go to play a song ;-) No need to use two.
[03:35] <lee___> Fryguy--: Can I PM it to you?
[03:35] <Fryguy--> lee___: no, pastebin it if you must, it should only be one line
[03:35] <xq> qcjn: Pick which one best fits your needs or which you feel most comfortable with.
[03:35] <unop_> m0ng0ape, what does net use spit out (error messages) ?
[03:35] <lee___> Fryguy--: It's multiple lines, and I can't open firefox, so how do you expect me to pastebin it?
[03:35] <Fryguy--> install pastebin?
[03:35] <Fryguy--> use a cli browser like linx?
[03:36] <Fryguy--> scp it to another machine and pastebin from there?
[03:36] <Fryguy--> manually type it out ?
[03:36] <Fryguy--> it really shouldn't be that long
[03:36] <Marupa> Is there a way to see a list of packages that are installed but sorted by size?
[03:36] <lee___> Forget it, Fryguy--, It's like 7 lines, but I think I know which one you want
[03:36] <lee___> /home/lee/.Xauthority  /home/lee/.xsession-errors
[03:36] <Fryguy--> lee___: no
[03:36] <qcjn> xq: i've already installed mpd with GMPC and phpm2, with icecast..It works good
[03:37] <jumpkick> can anyone recommend a good app for adding / deleting tracks from an Ipod on Ubuntu?
[03:37] <lee___> No what?
[03:37] <Fryguy--> lee___: if i was looking for .xsession-errors I would have asked for it
[03:37] <Fryguy--> jumpkick: gtkpod
[03:37] <lee___> Fryguy--: Then do you want xmms, xine, or xchat2?
[03:37] <unop_> jumpkick, gtkpod
[03:37] <evans> hello
[03:37] <jumpkick> okay thanks gents I'll apt-get that one
[03:38] <Fryguy--> lee___: so the entries are .xsession-erorrs, .Xauthority, xmms, xine, and xchat2?
[03:38] <elcapitan> does anyone know of a good resource where I could look into adding the resolution 1280x768?
[03:38] <xjkx> i removed gnome* (apt-get remove gnome*) now my usb ubuntu doesn't book anymore :P
[03:38] <Fryguy--> elcapitan: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:38] <xq> Marupa: I don't know how to sort by size. I just know you could dpkg --get-selections > my-pkg-list
[03:39] <mobiCHAT> test
[03:39] <xq> Marupa: Then you should see a file called my-pkg-list and just gedit it (or open it or what not) and it will have all installed packages in it...
[03:39] <lee___> What's a CLI browser (I mean, give me the name of one)
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> mobiCHAT: pong
[03:39] <unop_> Marupa, i dont think that is possible (easily atleast) -- because some packages contents when installed to the file system have different sizes depending on the environement
[03:39] <jrib> Marupa: you can use aptitude search with a custom output and 'sort'
[03:39] <m0ng0ape> unop_: Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password
[03:39] <Fryguy--> lee___: linx, lynx, w3m, links2
[03:40] <m0ng0ape> unop_: Logon failure: before I put in password I get System error 1326 has occurred.
[03:40] <lee___> Fryguy--: Says no such package "linx", but "lynx" is installing.
[03:40] <qcjn> xq: from what i've understand, it's easier to use jinzora, like it would be the best thing to do... or there advantage doing otherwise ?
[03:40] <yowshi> unop_, your script isnt finding the baseline file anymore :(
[03:40] <Shpook> Hello everyone. I'm trying to burn a cd, so I insert the blank CD, set up what I'm going to burn, and click on Write. Ubuntu(Well, Nautilus I guess) keeps telling me to insert a blank cd.
[03:40] <xq> Marupa: You could sort afterwards if you export the file to a program of choice
[03:40] <nondescript> lynx is sexy
[03:40] <unop_> Marupa, if you can script .. you can list installed packages with 'dpkg -l' and package contents with 'dpkg -l packagename' -- together you should be able to script up a solution
[03:40] <Fryguy--> lee___: w3m is installed by default as well i think
[03:41] <unop_> yowshi, just a sec
[03:41] <unop_> m0ng0ape,
[03:41] <xq> qcjn: If you're already using one and it is working fine -- then...well, I don't see a point in changing. However, if you want to test Jinzora out by all means feel free to try it out. I've heard good things about it.
[03:41] <Shpook> Would it be Nautilus not recognizing the cd? Or a hardware problem?
[03:41] <diego> hello what we can do to solve lgobla warming
[03:42] <lee___> Anyway, Fryguy--, what do I need to do
[03:42] <tritium> diego: please stay on topic
[03:42] <Fryguy--> diego: stop wasting energy by having a computer on to ask about it
[03:42] <xq> diego: lol
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:42] <Fryguy--> lee___: before you do any of this, try deleting .Xauthority and restarting X
[03:42] <qcjn> xq: ok, thanks, it gives me a good idea
[03:42] <vonk> no luck :-(
[03:42] <diego> hello how we can save energy ?
[03:42] <lee___> How
[03:42] <efirewick> shpook: I was running into this same problem, 20 hrs later I just installed k3b and it works just fine. Much better program.
[03:42] <xq> we should all turn off our PCs and stop the huge carbon footprint of this channel!
[03:42] <lee___> rm -rf /home/lee/.Xauthority?
[03:42] <nondescript> lol @ diego
[03:42] <tritium> diego: this is an ubuntu support channel.  Please stay on topic.
[03:42] <Fryguy--> lee___: sure
[03:43] <xq> or aim for more energy efficient PCs and data centers! that would help as well.
[03:43] <diego> how we can save water?
[03:43] <Shpook> efirewick: You know, I never even considered k3b. I completely forgot I have KDE installed...lemme give it a shot. Thanks!
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: he's a troll, just let him let out enough rope to hang himself.
[03:43] <xq> diego: we could stop the rain from falling.
[03:43] <HardyOne> guess that was the end of the ropw
[03:43] <HardyOne> rope
[03:43]  * nondescript waves to diego
[03:43] <m0ng0ape> unop_: ?
[03:43] <xq> eh
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:44] <vonk> well, when i tried (hd1,1) it said that the partition did not exist
[03:44] <nondescript> I dont like xchat
[03:44] <vonk> so i /e cried
[03:44] <millllmannnn> is vmware server free?
[03:44] <jumpkick> Fryguy--, uncop_ -- er...  I guess I'll have to try something else... gtkpod doesn't support m4a files in gutsy.... :(
[03:44] <nondescript> whats a good alternative
[03:44] <vonk> nondescript: irssi
[03:44] <Fryguy--> nondescript: irssi
[03:44] <xq> millllmannnn: I believe so, it's just workstation that is $$ because of the snapshots
[03:44] <nondescript> is that the command line one?
[03:44] <vonk> yup
[03:44] <Fryguy--> nondescript: yes
[03:44] <Krozy> I like xchat, but wish I could filter out the "has joined" and "has left" messages
[03:44] <jumpkick> ... .m4a' failed: m4a/m4p/m4b not supported without the mp4v2 library. You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[03:44] <xq> Well, and Fusion is $
[03:44] <nondescript> ah nice, totally forgot about that one. thanks
[03:45] <unop_> m0ng0ape, what i would do if i were you is monitor the samba log files --  tail -f /var/log/samba/log.[ns]mbd
[03:45] <vonk> it seems that my buddy aeteric who was helping me earlier has left :-(
[03:45] <unop_> m0ng0ape, and then try logging in from the remote machine again -- hopefully you should be able to see whats going on with samba as and when the user is being authenticated
[03:46] <vonk> do any of you other ubuntu gurus have any ideas for how i might fix my error 17 woes?
[03:46] <lungten> hi everyone, is hardy beta out yet?
[03:46] <Fryguy--> lungten: #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <lungten> OK. Thanks
[03:47] <Shpook> efirewick: Thanks! That worked perfect. :-D
[03:48] <Tommy`> theneb: ping
[03:49] <vonk> hm.. well, if you guys dont know how to fix this problem, would any of you mind doing the trouble of scrolling up to see the command aeteric gave me to mount sdb and then go to the proper grub directory?
[03:49] <vonk> i can play around some more then
[03:49] <tritium> vonk: is the drive mounted?
[03:49] <DareDevyl> trying to write a simple script...i need to add a few directories to my path...However "export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/pathto/dir" isnt working...please help..
[03:50] <vonk> tritium: it might be. i can get there graphically, at least. so i suppose it is mounted
[03:50] <vonk> but i dont know how to get there in terminal
[03:50] <SpookyET> I'm having trouble with synaptics in X. While it gets detected, it does not work. It says, "Synaptics Touchpad The '/dev/input/event* device nodes seem to be missing."
[03:50] <tritium> vonk: grub's configuration directory is /boot/grub/
[03:50] <unop_> DareDevyl, how are you running the scrupt?
[03:50] <unop_> script*?
[03:50] <nicholas_> oh hi, I have a humourous dilemma, I pinged my router with the 'ping' command, now I don't know how to make it stop (besides x'ing out of the console). WHAT DO I DO!!?! D:
[03:50] <Marupa> ctrl+c
[03:50] <vonk> tritium: aye, there is something funny going on though since i am running on the live disc
[03:50] <jumpkick> Fryguy--, uncop_ --  gtkpod-aac works for m4a though!  Thanks
[03:50] <Fryguy--> nicholas_: press ctrl-c
[03:50] <Krozy> nicholas_: ctrl+c
[03:51] <tritium> vonk: meaning?
[03:51] <nicholas_> oh..
[03:51] <nicholas_> thank you.
[03:51] <vonk> tritium: so /boot/grub is for the live disc install, i think
[03:51] <nicholas_> what does ctrl+c mean? XD
[03:51] <vonk> so the root directory is different
[03:51] <nicholas_> it worked, but why c, of all letters?
[03:51] <Marupa> hit the control key, and hit C
[03:51] <Fryguy--> nicholas_: c for cancel
[03:51] <tritium> vonk: yes, but you'd navigate to /path-to-mounted-drive/boot/grub
[03:51] <vonk> and i am not sure how to make it point to the root directory on sdb, where is where the linux partition sits
[03:51] <nicholas_> I have learned, thank you my friends!
[03:51] <dimedo> hi, i'm looking for a way to script simulated mouse and keyboard inputs for my x windows system on ubuntu 7.10, any ideas?
[03:52] <unop_> dimedo, what kind of script?
[03:52] <vonk> dimedo: i dont, but i know of an open source program which does that. it is called synergy, might be able to pull some code out of it
[03:52] <DareDevyl> unop_ nevermind done
[03:53] <unop_> DareDevyl, forgot to source the file?
[03:53] <vonk> tritium: do you know what "path-to-mounted-drive" would be? (i am le noob, sorry)
[03:53] <Jimmm> hi all
[03:53] <dimedo> unop_: i just need to control mouse and keyboard virtually by some kind of script
[03:54] <vonk> dimedo: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net
[03:54] <unop_> dimedo, i dunno about mouse control -- but there's something called xmacro/xmacroplay that might be able to sendkeys
[03:54] <vonk> there should be some useful code there for you, dimedo
[03:54] <Jimmm> I just did a wubi ubuntu install it will read y my recovery partition but not the first c drive partition
[03:55] <vonk> tritium: aeteric told me how to do it, but sadly i have forgotten already.
[03:55] <Jimmm> is there any way to get it to read drive c?
[03:55] <vonk> guess i shouldnt have smoked so much pot in my younger days.
[03:56] <diktus> hello all
[03:56] <vonk> hello diktus
[03:56] <diktus> i have a problem with my sound
[03:56] <diktus> i use linux mint 3 cassandra
[03:56] <ircleuser> I am new to linux and i need some help; I am installing ubuntu (i think it is 7.04 or 6.06 not sure) on a machine previously running windows xp. I use windows to play games and I do not want to wipe the windows partition. Is there any way to create a new partition with the live cd or the windows disk?
[03:56] <tritium> diktus: wrong chanel
[03:56] <dimedo> vonk: i'll check that, thx
[03:56] <diktus> sound card detect but no sound hear
[03:56] <ircleuser> sorry to jump in
[03:56] <tritium> channel*
[03:57] <dimedo> unop_: i already found that, but i can't find any usefull example on how to use that
[03:57] <vonk> tritium: could i bother you to scroll up and give me the command that aeteric did? normally i'd be logging all this stuff, but logging on a live disc isnt really practical/useful
[03:57] <vonk> dimedo: you're welcome :-).
[03:57] <bluefox83> !printer
[03:57] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:57] <tritium> !sound | diktus (You might try these, but we don't officially support non-ubuntu distros)
[03:57] <ubotu> diktus (You might try these, but we don't officially support non-ubuntu distros): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:58] <tritium> vonk: what is it you want to do?  Mount the drive?
[03:58] <vonk> tritium: mount it, and then cd to it
[03:58] <tritium> vonk: do you know which /dev/sdX corresponds to it?
[03:59] <vonk> tritium: yup, sdb
[03:59] <tempo-> um guys?
[03:59] <tritium> vonk: and what is your mount point?
[03:59] <tempo-> hello
[03:59] <vonk> tritium: i dont know what that is, sorry.
[04:00] <tempo-> oops sorry
[04:00] <tritium> vonk: you can pick any place to mount it.  You're sure it doesn't auto-mount at boot?
[04:00] <J3KYLL> hi, i have a quick question about hd's and installing. i'd appreciate any help thanks.
[04:00] <unop_> dimedo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=279697#post279697
[04:00] <Fryguy--> J3KYLL: just ask questions, don't ask to ask
[04:00] <J3KYLL> oh
[04:00] <J3KYLL> ok
[04:00] <J3KYLL> srry
[04:00] <tritium> !enter | J3KYLL
[04:00] <ubotu> J3KYLL: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:00] <vonk> tritium: i dont think so. i dont see anything in / that seems like a likely candidate
[04:01] <tempo-> Fryguy: "just ask questions, don't ask to ask"
[04:01] <tempo-> ok
[04:01] <tritium> vonk: it wouldn't auto-mount under /.  It would be under /media.
[04:01] <tempo-> How should i go about partitioning a hard disk running windows for ubunto 7.04?
[04:01] <vonk> tritium: /media is empty
[04:01] <tritium> tempo-: throught the installer
[04:01] <Fryguy--> tempo-: the installer will take care of it for you
[04:01] <tritium> vonk: one second
[04:01] <DG19075> agreeing with tritium here
[04:02] <vonk> tritium: thanks much for your patience :D. glad to see this is not a RTFM spot :P
[04:02] <tempo-> i got that far... but the HD has an XP partition already that i dont want to ge rid of...
[04:02] <tritium> vonk: did you create a directory to use as the mount point?
[04:02] <tritium> vonk: :)
[04:02] <vonk> tritium: i dont think so
[04:02] <DG19075> my usb drives mount under /media
[04:02] <MUS4SHIII> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a room list of either ICQ or AIM with Pidgin? I have both ICQ and AIM set up, but when I look for room lists I can only choose my IRC accounts.
[04:02] <Fryguy--> tempo-: the installer will take care of it for you
[04:02] <vonk> tritium: unless you mean on sdb. when i made the ubuntu install, it has "/" as its mount point.
[04:02] <tritium> vonk: well, you had to mount it somewhere.  Create a directory, say /media/temp.  Then, sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/temp
[04:02] <diktus> i have read and i think the problem is the module doesn't load
[04:03] <vonk> mount point /media/temp does not exist
[04:03] <Fryguy--> MUS4SHIII: join #pidgin
[04:03] <tritium> vonk: I told you to create that directory first
[04:03] <diktus> i confuse to add module name in /etc/modules
[04:03] <MUS4SHIII> k
[04:03] <diktus> what module name should i add
[04:03] <ppibburr> tempo: i think the installer will first want to take the whole disk, you'll have to choose manual
[04:03] <tritium> diktus: /etc/modules is a text file.  Add the module name on its own line to that text file.
[04:03] <tempo-> Fryguy: the installer gives me some options for the partitioning setup. I just want to make sure I am not overwriting my windows drive
[04:03] <nife> is there some way to make java take less memory to install ?  I have a virtual dedicated server with 256 megs and it keeps failing
[04:03] <tritium> diktus: which module have you determined is not loading?
[04:03] <Fryguy--> tempo-: it should be pretty self explanatory
[04:03] <diktus> but i dont know the module name
[04:04] <diktus> how to know the soundcard module name??
[04:04] <Fryguy--> diktus: ask google
[04:04] <tempo-> Alright, thanks guys, I'll be back in a few
[04:04] <NeT_DeMoN_> hello all
[04:04] <diktus> soundcard module
[04:04] <vonk> tritium: well, unfortunately i think i am too tired and confused for this right now. thanks a lot for your help, but i think i will return to this problem tomorrow when i am better rested
[04:04] <diktus> in konsole show only fuse and lp
[04:04] <ApOgEE-> hi all...
[04:04] <tritium> vonk: are you sure?  All we have to do is create one directory.
[04:05] <vonk> tritium: haha, okay, if it is so easy then we can do it :-)
[04:05] <NeT_DeMoN_> im dual booting vista and ubuntu on this laptop but my networking does not work, how wouldi fix that?
[04:05] <crxyem> is there a way to change the color of the scrollbar  I change the title bar color etc... I'd like the scrollbar match
[04:05] <tritium> vonk: so, create the directory of your choice, perhaps /media/temp, and then "sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/temp"
[04:05] <ppibburr> mkdir foo | sudo mount /dev/blah foo
[04:05] <NeT_DeMoN_> its an atheros wireless network driver
[04:05] <diktus> how to get the list of module??
[04:05] <FAJALO1> hello all, is there a way  so that the startup / menu is only the ubuntu icon, instead of all of the stuff after it?
[04:06] <Fryguy--> crxyem: yes the scrollbar is themable along with the entire rest of the interface
[04:06] <vonk> tritium: mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /media/temp5 busy
[04:06] <tritium> ppibburr: don't pipe those two commands together
[04:06] <vonk> (i did sudo mkdir temp5)
[04:06] <Zimbo> Anyway know why I'm not getting any system beeps on this laptop?  I have checked System->Preferences->Sound->System Beep and it's set to both sound a beep and flash the window, but only the later happens.  This is on Gutsy with an Acer 4520.
[04:06] <Fryguy--> FAJALO1: yes take a look at the available applets to put onto the panel one of them will do what you want
[04:06] <Stroganoff> vonk, have you tried reinstalling grub with chroot?
[04:06] <SidStudios> Yeah, Zimbo
[04:06] <crxyem> Fryguy: yeah I figured so I just can't seem to find what actually changes it
[04:06] <tritium> vonk: it's already mounted.  Type "mount | grep sdb"
[04:06] <vonk> Stroganoff: i havent, maybe you could help me do that?
[04:06] <Zimbo> Yes, Sid?
[04:06] <FAJALO1> fryguy, where would i find these said applets?
[04:06] <SidStudios> You're not using the correct ALSA driver for System beep, zimbo
[04:06] <Fryguy--> crxyem: just use a different them, there should be a few available
[04:06] <Fryguy--> FAJALO1: right click on the panel and add
[04:07] <NeT_DeMoN_> anyone?
[04:07] <Zimbo> Thanks... any suggestions on how I might go about fixing it?
[04:07] <vonk> tritium: done. nothing happened
[04:07] <FAJALO1> fryguy ok thank you.
[04:07] <Zimbo> Sid: Regular sounds (like the log-on/log-out sound work)
[04:07] <Stroganoff> vonk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[04:07] <vonk> Stroganoff: thanks much
[04:07] <tritium> vonk: "mount" should list all mounted filesystems.  Please run it.
[04:07] <Stroganoff> thats not the chroot method
[04:07] <NeT_DeMoN_> %C6
[04:07] <vonk> tritium: done. i do not see sdb on there though
[04:07] <ppibburr> /dev/sdb should be /dev/sdb#
[04:08] <ppibburr> when you mount
[04:08] <tritium> vonk: yet you say mount said it was mounted?
[04:08] <crxyem> Fryguy: that's the easyway out, I cutomized the default theme, and would like to change the scrollbars etc... .  without loosing the theme I have now
[04:08] <vonk> tritium: it seems that way... weird, huh?
[04:08] <Stroganoff> vonk: here are the compact methods: http://www.oc-tec.de/forum/showthread.php?t=12221
[04:08] <ApOgEE-> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy on HP Compaq nx9010... How can I get blender to work on this laptop?
[04:08] <tritium> ppibburr: ah, right
[04:08] <Fryguy--> crxyem: well save your current theme and work with another one.  The customize part of the themes menu is pretty full featured
[04:09] <tritium> vonk: you need to try mounting either /dev/sdbX, not just /dev/sdb
[04:09] <vonk> Stroganoff: http://www.oc-tec.de/forum/showthread.php?t=12221 i am sure would be very helpful if i knew german :-/
[04:09] <tritium> vonk: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb, please
[04:09] <Stroganoff> just read the commands, vonk ^^
[04:09] <Zimbo> Still there Sid?
[04:09] <m0ng0ape> still no idea...
[04:09] <yowshi> i am about to give up on this problem
[04:09] <vonk> tritium: okay, done
[04:09] <tempo-> I am back.
[04:09] <yowshi> and reinstall ubuntu
[04:10] <vonk>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:10] <vonk> /dev/sdb1   *           1       59323   476511966   83  Linux
[04:10] <vonk> /dev/sdb2           59324       60801    11872035    5  Extended
[04:10] <vonk> /dev/sdb5           59324       60801    11872003+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:10] <vonk> sorry for the spam
[04:10] <Stroganoff> !paste
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:10] <yowshi> i never thought i would have to do that
[04:10] <ApOgEE-> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy on HP Compaq nx9010... How can I get blender to work on this laptop? can anyone point me to the right direction so I can fix it?
[04:10] <tritium> vonk: okay, use that sudo mount command from earlier with sdb1
[04:10] <chris062689> I have a question.  When you use the Live CD, is it all loaded into RAM?  So the Hard-drive is never used correct?  (No swap file)
[04:10] <tempo-> The windows partition takes up the whole disk and the smallest ammount of continuous free space is 205mg. is there a way to back up my windows system?
[04:10] <vonk> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/temp5 great, it worked!
[04:10] <Fryguy--> chris062689: the hard drive is never used
[04:10] <vonk> thanks tritium
[04:10] <tritium> vonk: sure
[04:10] <vonk> sorry it was so troublesome :)
[04:11] <tritium> vonk: no, it wasn't
[04:11] <Stroganoff> chris062689: the livecd will mount the linux swap partition, if availalbe
[04:11] <unop__> tempo-, you could use something like ghost
[04:11] <chris062689> but other than that, it's all in RAM correct?
[04:11] <Fryguy--> chris062689: yes
[04:11] <Stroganoff> thats right, chris062689, no worrries
[04:12] <vonk> tritium: based on the sudo fdisk -l sdb up there, i should be booting to (hd1,0) right?
[04:12] <tempo-> unop__: can you elaborate on ghost?
[04:12] <RoAkSoAx> !clamav
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <RoAkSoAx> !clam
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <tritium> !botabuse | RoAkSoAx
[04:12] <ubotu> RoAkSoAx: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:12] <Greyerg> wow. IMHO it's really dumb to have the default xchat package in ubuntu automatically join a channel. I seems like it would lead to a channel crowded with people saying stupid things.
[04:12] <yowshi> unop__, it failed and comparing chmod files before running bash and after there is no change
[04:13] <unop__> tempo-, ghost is a software for windows (primarily) that creates a backup image of all the files for a given partition/drive
[04:13] <sFEARs> is my /proc/ioports file supposed to be empty?
[04:13] <masaka> Can anybody help me with Intel video drivers? G35 chipset, onboard graphics
[04:13] <Fryguy--> masaka: ask questions, don't ask to ask
[04:13] <unop__> yowshi, and the bash script ran fine?
[04:13] <tempo-> how big would the backup file be?
[04:13] <yowshi> yeah it didnt spit out any errors
[04:13] <tempo-> my system takes up around 100gb
[04:13] <unop__> tempo-,  <= the size of the parition
[04:13] <Fryguy--> Greyerg: hrmm, a channel like that sounds very familiar
[04:14] <fatguy> I cant get the usb mouse to work on my laptop, Ive looked in the forums and cannot find a solution
[04:14] <tempo-> grrr. I dont have an external hd larger than 80 X(
[04:14] <Krozy> I'm contemplating getting a new SATA hard drive to replace 4 IDE drives and installing fresh.  I saw that there is an encrypted file system option available now.  Is there anything I should be mindful of before pursuing such an endeavor?
[04:14] <unop__> tempo-, wow, thats big -- the backup file could be upto 100gb in size -- depending on things like compression, etc used when creating the backup
[04:14] <masaka> Fryguy-- I can't even find the chipset in the FAQ list. Am I out of luck?
[04:14] <SidStudios> fatguy: I bet It'll work on Windows
[04:15] <fatguy> SidStudios, it does
[04:15] <Fryguy--> masaka: probably not
[04:15] <fatguy> :)
[04:15] <Fryguy--> Krozy: would recommend truecrypt instead
[04:15] <masaka> Fryguy-- What to do next?
[04:15] <Fryguy--> masaka: what is the problem
[04:15] <Greyerg> Fryguy--: it's familiar because you're there now. excuse my while I figure out how to add ircstorm with this new gui...
[04:15] <unop__> tempo-, i guess the best strategy then is to try and move as much as you can off the drive onto another, defragment the drive and try and resize it with partition magic or something else that splits paritions
[04:15] <tempo-> unop: yeah. my computer has a ton of music and dvds that I have ripped, not to mention games. the only reason i use windows is because of games. otherwise I would be permanently linux and mac.
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> donkey_1234: test
[04:15] <donkey_1234> it works
[04:16] <masaka> Fryguy-- the best driver it finds has only 55 Hz refresh rate.
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> i know. :)
[04:16] <J3KYLL> i tried install ubuntu to my 6g hda HD and i got an error message around 30% saying "cannot write to (read-only)" whats going on? if this one doesn't work should i try to install on my 320g sata HD?
[04:16] <Fryguy--> masaka: on an lcd or ?
[04:16] <Krozy> Fryguy: What makes truecrypt a better choice?
[04:16] <mEck0> hi! is it possible to install Gnome 2.22 in 7.10?
[04:16] <masaka> Fryguy-- I have CRT
[04:16] <Fryguy--> Krozy: better encryption, more secure, easier to use
[04:16] <tempo-> if there was a way to run my games on linux then i would just trash the windows and start fresh with ubuntu
[04:16] <Fryguy--> masaka: probably just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[04:16] <vonk> tempo-: you can
[04:17] <Ashfire908> asking now seems too late, but if i install/update programs on a livecd with a usb drive to make it persistent, will they stay the next time i boot?
[04:17] <vonk> tempo-: get Cedega
[04:17] <unop__> tempo-, there are quite a few applications for linux that allow you to play games -- wine, cedega, x-over-office, etc
[04:17] <tempo-> and to connect to the internet... I am using a USB wireless card and i am so new to linux i dont know how to find the right drivers.
[04:17] <Zimbo> Is there a means to get double-tapping a laptop's (Synpatics) touchpad to send a double-click event rather than two single-click events?
[04:17] <SidStudios> tempo-: Be warned, if it runs at 99FPs on Windows, It'll run at 60FPS on ubuntu
[04:18] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: ??
[04:18] <unop__> SidStudios, what?
[04:18] <tempo-> the big games are flightsim X and it runs slow on windows.
[04:18] <Ashfire908> FPS = frames per second
[04:18] <tempo-> correction, big game...
[04:18] <Fryguy--> Ashfire908: yes i know what basic acronyms mean
[04:18] <cool> gnome-panel are disappearing & come back when i hover mouse over them. but i check auto hide is disabled. What can be the reason?
[04:18] <vonk> SidStudios: it will, yes, if you enable vsync and your moniter is 60hz :P
[04:19] <highbass> Hey guy!! i just installed the newest alsa drivers according to the instructions here...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147 ... because i was having problems where sound would come form speakers even thou headphones were plugged in... also note i stalled the newest alsa drivers 1.6 .. anyways now i dont have nay sound wahtsover when i click on the volume control i get the error saying "no volume control GSTREAMER plugins and/or devices" .. i d
[04:19] <tempo-> if it goes from 99-60 than i dont want to know what 40-10 would be like...
[04:19] <tempo-> I have heard of wine
[04:19] <belkinhelp2> hello fellow ubuntu users....does anyone know how to change the LAN settings from 10 to 100mbit/s?  It seems my NIC is bottlenecking my connection.
[04:19] <Fryguy--> in my experience, frame rates in linux have been better than they were in windows.  Very limited samplesize though, so it doesn't mean much
[04:19] <SidStudios> vonk: I'm sorry, my games run faster on Vista than Ubuntu.
[04:19] <J3KYLL> are there any important things or guide lines i should know when selecting a HD to install ubuntu on? one's that will work, ones that won't, etc ?
[04:19] <yowshi> SidStudios, where you getting your facts from
[04:19] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: linux driver will autonegotiate a link
[04:19] <unop__> tempo-, you could cechk the wineHQ to see if your game/app is supported
[04:20] <tempo-> ok, brb
[04:20] <belkinhelp2> Fryguy...then where is the bottleneck?
[04:20] <SidStudios> yowshi: Err, my own computer?
[04:20] <belkinhelp2> Modem....router....nic
[04:20] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: if it's running at 10mbps, then that's either because of your network card, your switch, the cabling, or some other piece of networking
[04:20] <unop__> yowshi, so did the script run fine?
[04:20] <|2-bits|> I have a problem. I installed some package, and now I have some strange new menu items
[04:20] <vonk> SidStudios: it shouldnt be that way, i dont think
[04:20] <yowshi> something running faster on vista then anything else? i find this highly suspicious
[04:20] <|2-bits|> It has Other -> { Lock screen, shutdown }
[04:20] <masaka> Fryguy--: looks like all my attempts to set up the hardware are recorded in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Is there a way to start from a clean slate?
[04:21] <|2-bits|> How do I remove these items?
[04:21] <yowshi> unop__, yes it did
[04:21] <Sgeo> G'night all
[04:21] <Fryguy--> masaka: just edit the existing file (it has a lot more in there than just your video card)
[04:21] <tempo-> nope, AOE, rise of nations, and flightsim X not supported at all
[04:21] <|2-bits|> they are in the applications menu, I might add
[04:21] <unop__> SidStudios, you probably did have the right drivers/configuration for your particular video adapter -- if optimized right, games can run quite well on linux
[04:21] <cool> J3KYLL, just learn how Ubuntu names partions. in windows its C,DE but in Ubuntu its hda1,hda2...
[04:21] <yowshi> unop__, it didnt spit out any errors while running the bash script
[04:21] <SidStudios> vonk: Why, not everyone has a Pentium 3 computer
[04:21] <donkey_1234>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[04:21] <Fryguy--> cool: linux doesn't use hdx anymore apparently, ide got merged into the sdX disks
[04:21] <Zimbo> Here's another one... how do you disable the "feature" where the scroll wheel of a mouse switches desktops when the pointer hovers over a blank part of the desktop?  My touchpad simulates a scrollwheel and sometimes this just cases Gnome to go nuts thinking I'm trying to change desktops when I'm really just trying to move the mouse.
[04:21] <tempo-> coult i do a 50/50 partition and wipe windows then just reinstall my games.
[04:22] <SidStudios> unop__: If Ubuntu is so good, why don't they just make Linux ports? From what I know, It's not very hard to build a linux version, therefore increasing their target audience by a LOT..
[04:22] <tempo-> I have all the movies/music on my mac
[04:22] <donkey_1234>  /msg nickserv link donkey7186 trackstar
[04:22] <masaka> Fryguy--: is there a way to force re-start video detection?
[04:22] <belkinhelp2> well the modem is an adsl2+ capable of 25mbits, the router is a di-524 with a 10/100 WAN and the NIC is an integrated Ausu 1400+ so im assuming its also 10/100, and lastly im running CAT5e cables
[04:22] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: that's part of compiz, just install compizconfig-settings-manager and edit that behavior
[04:22] <Krozy> |2-bits|: You can manually edit the menu via, System > Preferences > Main Menu, but I'm not sure if thats what you want to do, or if you want to uninstall those packages.
[04:22] <tritium> SidStudios: ports of what?
[04:22] <Fryguy--> masaka: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[04:22] <Fryguy--> err
[04:22] <Fryguy--> masaka: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:22] <tempo-> I would rather just backup my special files then do a reformat
[04:22] <SidStudios> tritium: Games like Counter strike source, and other popular games
[04:22] <Ashfire908> If i install/update programs on a livecd with a usb drive to make it persistent, will they stay the next time i boot?
[04:22] <|2-bits|> Krozy: I have no idea which packages caused it (it happened in my last install too), so I think I am just going to edit the main menu
[04:22] <tritium> SidStudios: that's up to the game companies.
[04:22] <Zimbo> Thanks Fryguy, I'll try it
[04:22] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: then you'll have a 100mbps connection, what is indicating to you that you only have 10mbps?
[04:23] <vonk> SidStudios: Loki tried that. it did not work and was not profitable =/.
[04:23] <SidStudios> tritium: The whole "free" thing will never work; people want to make profits. That's the only reason they will be motivated to make anything for anyone at all
[04:23] <J3KYLL> thanks COOL, but one more thing. are there HD requirements for install? eg. a certain size, type?
[04:23] <cool> Fryguy--, Nice. it removed lot of confusion but in think grub still uses hdx naming convention, inst'it?
[04:23] <Krozy> |2-bits|: What are the names of the applications?
[04:23] <Fryguy--> cool: no idea
[04:23] <unop__> SidStudios, there are ports being created for games all the time .. or platforms to run the games (and well) all the time
[04:23] <tempo-> can i reformat from the live cd?
[04:23] <vonk> SidStudios: in any case, you should not see any performance decreases when running cedega. it does not go through a virtualmachine or anything so theres no extra steps. should be exactly the same
[04:23] <belkinhelp2> Fryguy...my speed tests are constantly topping out at 6mbits or so
[04:23] <Fryguy--> tempo-: the livecd has an installer on it, yes
[04:23] <|2-bits|> Logout and Lock Screen
[04:23] <Krozy> |2-bits|: when you edit the main menu, you can view the properties of those unwanted items that may give a clue as to what they are
[04:23] <unop__> tempo-, sure
[04:23] <J3KYLL> COOL, im getting confused about the HD intstall because i've tried numerous times
[04:23] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: mbps or MB/s
[04:23] <|2-bits|> somehow these functions made their way to my applications menu
[04:23] <vonk> also SidStudios, i think many open source developers would disagree with you about the money being motivation for everyting :P
[04:23] <cool> J3KYLL, this would help you,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[04:24] <cool> J3KYLL, ask whats your confusion
[04:24] <unop__> yowshi, hmm, guess a reinstall is imminent then -- i'm out of ideas completely :(
[04:24] <vonk> SidStudios: linux is both excellent and (for hte most part) free, so there you have it :D. proof that good things come without money, sometimes
[04:24] <belkinhelp2> mbs
[04:24] <tempo-> cool. one last thing. My live cd is either 7.04 or 6.06. will compiz fusion come on either?
[04:24] <ppibburr> i'm writing a dvd creator, comparable t qdvd, as a hobby :)
[04:24] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: what does ethtool eth0 tell you
[04:24] <SidStudios> unop__: Maybe if "Linux" was just an operating system, much more applications will be made for it. Because, a) The whole world isn't comfortable with building things from source. b) Linux should adopt ONE kind of package management and really work on the GUI. Windows is really winning in on this part.
[04:24] <tritium> SidStudios: that's one opinion.
[04:24] <J3KYLL> COOL, this is my confusion : i tried install ubuntu to my 6g hda HD and i got an error message around 30% saying "cannot write to (read-only)" whats going on? if this one doesn't work should i try to install on my 320g sata HD?
[04:24] <yowshi> well them tommorow i will have questions on how to not lose my /home or my /usr/amovie directories
[04:24] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: nobody cares
[04:24] <tempo-> keep in mind that I am an EXTREME n00b with linux and i have no idea what i am doing short of installing it and starting firefox
[04:25] <highbass> can somone please guide me in the right direction.. ! i updated my alsa sound card drivers to the newest one because i was having issues... and now my system doesnt even detect a sound card!!!! i am on ubuntu 7.10
[04:25] <taintsauce> quick question - i've gone through two installs recently on my laptop (an older dell latitude PIII) and on both XFCE and KDE, the ctrl+alt+f2 tty is too large to work with - you can't see the bottom line ever
[04:25] <yowshi> until then night all and unop__ thanks for all your patience time and effort
[04:25] <taintsauce> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:25] <vonk> SidStudios: so theres 2 instead of 1 :-P. whats the big deal?
[04:25] <vonk> SidStudios: also, you dont need to build everything from source. theres plenty of compiled binaries available for many applications for linux
[04:25] <cool> empo-, on7.10 it would,  but on 6.06 it won't has there was no compiz-fusion back then. there was beryl & compiz
[04:25] <belkinhelp2> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
[04:25] <belkinhelp2>         Speed: 100Mb/s
[04:25] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[04:26] <belkinhelp2> I knew that there was somthing screwy about this dlink router
[04:26] <tempo-> ok thanks. by yall
[04:26] <belkinhelp2> i thought the firmware upgrade would have fixed this
[04:26] <belkinhelp2> but it didnt
[04:26] <unop__> SidStudios, the reason linux proliferates so much then is a contradiction to your philosophy of "it should be this and should be that" ,... it's about the choice of doing it differently, to each his own and that works like the way that not everyone drives a mercedes or likes it being painted pink :)
[04:26] <SidStudios> Fryguy--: You don't because you have a 2D mind, and because you know how to use Linux, you think that everyone should be able to compile things from source. You think that OSS is better than paid for software? I'm sorry, but I'd have to say Microsoft Office 2007 is much better than OpenOffice, in terms of usability, speed, and stability
[04:26] <cool> J3KYLL, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[04:26] <yowshi> SidStudios, building from source itsnt that hard and ummmm who cares if theres two package managers or that the desktop doesnt look b;ling b;ling i want reliability not eyecandy
[04:26] <Krozy> SidStudios: Most users can get by just fine without building anything from source, and 2) there are a few good package managers, 3) GUI is great, leaps and bounds ahead of XP and Vista.
[04:26] <tritium> SidStudios: please stay on topic.
[04:26] <SidStudios> yowshi: It's little details like this which will cause people to switch to Linux instead of Windows
[04:27] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: I don't think that everyone shoul dbe able to compile things from source.  I am able to because I am a programmer, so I choose to use linux to get my work done, and because of the tools it provides me, I get my work done faster and more efficiently.  Your mileage may vary
[04:27] <SidStudios> tritium: Sorry about the off-topicness
[04:27] <yowshi> besides if you want eyecandy so much SidStudios you can use compiz fusion
[04:27] <crxyem> Fryguy: I found the setting
[04:27] <unop__> SidStudios, and you can run an entire ubuntu system without even compiling anything ... that's almost not necessary anymore
[04:27] <SidStudios> yowshi: I don't want eye candy, I know what Compiz Fusion is.
[04:27] <J3KYLL> COOL : thank you very much. ill check out the resources you gave me
[04:27] <belkinhelp2> I switched to Linux when I read that the NSA was doing "security work" for windows Vista!
[04:27] <vonk> SidStudios: total control is hardly a 'little detail' :D. but that said, if you like windows so much, why don't you just use windows?
[04:27] <cool> J3KYLL, the recommend way to install to Ubuntu is to leave free space atleast 10GB & ask installer to use that free space
[04:27] <fatguy> I cant get the usb mouse to work on my laptop, Ive looked in the forums and cannot find a solution: [  137.964000] [<f88856a0>] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore]) [  137.964000] Disabling IRQ #7 [  139.500000] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -250264335 ns)
[04:27] <belkinhelp2> there is something wrong about that all the way around
[04:28] <Zimbo> I checked out compiz config settings and I'm not seeing one related to regular old desktop switching (there is stuff like "desktop cube," but that's not enabled)
[04:28] <SidStudios> unop__: I'm sorry, but you fail to see that every time I reinstalled Ubuntu when I used to use it, I had to RE-Compile ALSA, get NDISWRAPPER and about 10 different files, and then perform some really weird-ass tasks just to get wireless working.
[04:28] <tritium> SidStudios: truly, there is no need to know how to compile anything at all to run ubuntu
[04:28] <vonk> SidStudios: no one is going to try to convince you to use linux if windows is what you prefer. not sure what kind of response you are trying to provoke here..
[04:28] <Ashfire908> how do i check the space usage of a device (i mean /dev/???? not "flash drive")
[04:29] <SidStudios> vonk: Wow, that's the first time I've heard someone not give dumb reasons why I should'nt use the OS I'm using. That's why I like this so much more than forums..
[04:29] <Stroganoff> stating facts is not provoking. and it isn't completely a matter of choice or preference either, vonk
[04:29] <Krozy> SidStudios: My personal advice on the whole ndiswrapper debacle is simply avoid at all costs using hardware that sux-out-of-box.
[04:29] <unop__> SidStudios, well if you don't like putting in effort to getting the best out of your system -- then ubuntu is _NOT_ for you
[04:29] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: that's an unfortunately experience for you.  I haven't had that experience at all, and neither have 10s of thousands of other users.  I haven't compiled a single piece of code on this ubuntu systems for the purpose of running the machine, and everything that i've tried to do i've found ample documentation online, typically well written and well organized
[04:29] <SidStudios> Krozy: So I should buy another laptop just because my Wireless isn't supported out of the box?
[04:29] <asmer> Hi. Does anyone know if it is safe to increase my ubuntu partition size with Acronis Disk Director, without losing any data or making ubuntu unbootable? Thanks
[04:29] <Stroganoff> vonk, just stop playing games except quake, teewars ut2007 ;)
[04:29] <Zimbo> I have a suspicion desktop switching with the scroll wheel isn't a compiz-only thing... anyone care to agree/disagree?
[04:29] <tritium> SidStudios: if you want to continue this conversation, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic, so as not to spam this channel.  This channel is for support.
[04:30] <Stroganoff> sry i mean SidStudios
[04:30] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: disagree
[04:30] <belkinhelp2> Fryguy...wait its the wrong NIC
[04:30] <vonk> Stroganoff: i think you are getting me confusing with sid :P. i am not talking about playing games :-).
[04:30] <belkinhelp2> Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
[04:30] <belkinhelp2>         Speed: 10Mb/s
[04:30] <belkinhelp2>         Duplex: Half
[04:30] <Zimbo> The compiz "Expo" effect is pretty cool
[04:30] <SidStudios> Fryguy--: Haha, lucky for you, I think it's something with the AMD/Broadcom software developers that nothing is detected right on my compouter..
[04:30] <Zimbo> ok, Fryguy, I'll disable compiz for a bit and see what happens :-)
[04:30] <tritium> SidStudios: the problem is the hardware manufacturers, in your case
[04:30] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: again, unfortunately that's a bad experience for you
[04:30] <ppibburr> broadcom becomes esy with firmware-cutter
[04:30] <josh__> can someone help me with gnome?
[04:30] <SidStudios> I'd also like to know who here can actually hibernate their computers?
[04:30] <vonk> in any case, these are problems for later. thanks a lot for the help tritium and Stroganoff! have an excellent night, everyone
[04:30] <Fryguy--> josh__: don't ask to ask, just ask
[04:31] <tritium> SidStudios: I can.
[04:31] <SidStudios> tritium: With no work arounds?
[04:31] <tritium> vonk: no problem.  GOod night.
[04:31] <ppibburr> inpirion 1501, hibernates
[04:31] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: i can
[04:31] <tritium> SidStudios: none whatsoever.
[04:31] <unop__> SidStudios, I can but dont
[04:31]  * vonk hibernates.
[04:31] <unop__> lol
[04:31] <tritium> SidStudios: and sleep as well
[04:31] <Fryguy--> every computer I have *nix on hibernates just fine
[04:31] <belkinhelp2> sidstudios.....how much do you get paid to disrupt the ubuntu community?
[04:31] <unop__> :)
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> SidStudios: Mine worked out of the box
[04:31] <josh__> i want to be able to open a folder and when i do it opens file browser instead of the little rinky dink windows showing the contents of the folder
[04:32] <tritium> SidStudios: again, you better take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[04:32] <asmer> Hi. Does anyone know if it is safe to increase my ubuntu partition size with Acronis Disk Director, without losing any data or making ubuntu unbootable? Thanks
[04:32]  * Ashfire908 can't hibernate when he is using the restricted nvidia driver
[04:32] <Stroganoff> josh__, the file browser shows contents of folder
[04:32] <infernal_jesus> peace
[04:32] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: if you don't want to run *nix, then don't run *nix.  Dont' join a channel on irc and complain about your problems.  Either solve them yourself, ask for help in solving them, or give up.  Trolling IRC isn't going to help you, and it's just wasting my time for people who have legitimate questions
[04:32] <cool> asmer, why you want to use  Acronis Disk Director?
[04:32] <Stroganoff> are you using xubuntu, josh__?
[04:32] <Fryguy--> asmer: should be fine
[04:32] <killer_> 我哈特？
[04:33] <unop__> !jp
[04:33] <killer_> who knows how to use qq
[04:33] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[04:33] <Stroganoff> asmer, you should use the gparted livecd instead
[04:33] <josh__> okay, go to applications, system tools , then file browser, it has the back arrow and menu, but when i open a folder directly, it doesn't have the arrow and navigation tools
[04:33] <killer_>  Is there any body Chinese?
[04:33] <asmer> fryguy thanks
[04:33] <cool> Qcn
[04:33] <cool> !cn
[04:33] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[04:33] <unop__> !cn | killer_
[04:33] <ubotu> killer_: please see above
[04:33] <SidStudios> belkinhelp2: I don't get paid, it just irritates me to see people saying "Ubuntu rocks, everything works!" when in reality, a lot of hardware is not supported, and neither is half the software out there. Maybe you guys might get the hint when you finally realise why Adobe isn't spending money on building software for Ubuntu. Obviously, they've done market research and found that linux has little potential, and Windows will still rule for the 
[04:33] <killer_> I see
[04:33] <asmer> stroganoff because i have experience (have used many times) with Acronis
[04:34] <Fryguy--> josh__: so just click on the view menu and check off the toolbars you want visible?
[04:34] <tritium> SidStudios: that's not the reality.  A small subset of hardware has issues, not "a lot of hardware."
[04:34] <unop__> !ot | SidStudios
[04:34] <ubotu> SidStudios: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:34] <Ashfire908> ok uh how much wear and tear would installing a bunch of updates and a few new programs (~50 mb worth total) onto a livecd with usb drive for persistence, and would they stay installed after i restarted?
[04:34] <Stroganoff> asmer, the ui of gparted is basically the same ;)
[04:34] <cool> asmer, we can't help you in it, if you use Gparted then we could
[04:34] <acxty> Hi guys, is it necesary to reboot the computerr when I change the ip address? or a way to avoid this of happening
[04:34] <SidStudios> tritium: Ubuntu is for home computers, and isn't the most productive thing in the world. The Mac OS X dock is even worse than the ubuntu menus.
[04:34] <unop__> acx_, not necessary
[04:34] <asmer> stroganoff and i can use it to just increase the size without deleting or formatting?
[04:34] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: nobody here is claiming "ubuntu rocks" and as for you citing a single company not developing for linux, that's fine.  And yes you are right, the desktop userbase of linux is very small.  What exactly is your point of that statement?
[04:35] <Stroganoff> yes, asmer
[04:35] <cool> acxty, no, use sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:35] <Zimbo> Fryguy: Looks like you're correct; if I tell compiz to go away there's no more desktop switching with the mouse
[04:35] <tritium> SidStudios: it has been more productive for me than any other OS
[04:35] <Zimbo> Now if only I could find the right setting to change!
[04:35] <Fryguy--> acxty: ifup and ifdown should work fine
[04:35] <josh__> doesnt' do what i want it to do.
[04:35] <acxty> thanks guys
[04:35] <ppibburr> Ashfire, if they were wrote to usb they will be there...
[04:35] <SidStudios> tritium: Then why don't big companies use it? Why do they stick to "Virus prone windowS"?
[04:35] <Stroganoff> !flood > Stroganoff
[04:35] <ppibburr> but if the cd is setup for persistence is another matter
[04:35] <tritium> SidStudios: they do, including Dell.
[04:35] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: uh, plenty of big companies use linux.
[04:35] <SidStudios> tritium: Maybe, because the average person that sticks t
[04:35] <unop__> tritium, Fryguy--,  SidStudios, we should continue this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic and leave folks here get on with support
[04:36] <cool> !ot
[04:36] <SidStudios> Ok
[04:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:36] <Ashfire908> ppibburr it is
[04:36] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: last check, more than half of the webservers on the internet were running linux or another *nix
[04:36] <cool> Fryguy--, Please stop going offtopic on main support channels
[04:36] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: you really should become more educated on the whole situation instead of just being an anti-fanboy trolling and flaming in a channel
[04:36] <acxty> other question, I have access by ssh to a computer, I want to run a python script on it, the problem is that if I close the ssh window the script stop, it is possible to have a program continue running after close the ssh windows
[04:36] <ppibburr> then when it boots and it mounts the usb, usually / then youre good
[04:36] <SidStudios> Fryguy--: A webserver is not the same as a personal computer.
[04:37] <Fryguy--> cool: I spend multiple hours a week in here supporting noobies, I'm going to spend a few minutes having a slightly offtopic discussion
[04:37] <Krozy> SidStudios: Companies generally don't "turn on a dime" to switch entire architectures.
[04:37] <SidStudios> Fryguy--: You call me a troll just as you cannot come up with any useful arguments
[04:37] <tritium> SidStudios: #ubuntu-offtopic, now, please
[04:37] <Ashfire908> ppibburr, ok
[04:37] <Fryguy--> SidStudios: nobody said it was, and if you'll notice I already cited low desktop penetration like 5 minutes ago.  please read what I say
[04:37] <cool> Fryguy--, for that join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:37] <Stroganoff> josh__, you could copy /usr/share/applications/defaults.list to ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit
[04:37] <josh__> Fryguy: do you know what i'm asking
[04:38] <Fryguy--> josh__: I thought i did, but since you are asking me that i guess not
[04:38] <Zimbo> Here's the answer for disabling scroll-wheel desktop switching: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601716 .  My problem (after Fryguy's pointed me in the right direction) was not realizing the scroll wheel events just show up as "mouse 5" and "mouse 6" "buttons"
[04:38] <Ashfire908> ppibburr, is doing 50-70 mb of install/updates very hard on the life expentancy of the drive?
[04:38] <Stroganoff> josh__, edit the two lines "inode/directory" and "x-directory"
[04:38] <killer_> ?
[04:38] <ppibburr> ashfire no
[04:38] <josh__> k stroganoff i'll try it
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> fryguy...im at 10mbps
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> how do i change that
[04:38] <Zimbo> Thanks Fruguy
[04:38] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: install a network card that doesnt' suck?
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> lol
[04:39] <ingest> anyone here a doxygen user?
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> dont let sid get under your skin
[04:39] <jaguar6> Ashfire908: No
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> hes a well paid agent
[04:39] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: i don't know.  something in your network topology is causing it to negotiate low, or your network card is poorly supported in linux
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> its a realtek
[04:39] <josh__> i should probibly sayi'm using debian
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> 10/100
[04:39] <ppibburr> Ashfire the way the inserted data is inserted into the filesystem and the writes to usb, are configured to extend life expetancy
[04:39] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: realtek cards are generally AWFUL, invest the $20 in a nice intel card
[04:39] <Krozy> belkinhelp2: I found this online that may be of help to you: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-the-speed-and-duplex-settings-of-an-ethernet-card/
[04:40] <Stroganoff> thats ok, josh__
[04:40] <Cpudan80> Hey - when formatting/partitioning ubuntu manually -- do you set swap to primary or logical?
[04:40] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: IIRC there's comments in the realtek drivers for both linux and freebsd with lots of profanities about how poor they are :)
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[04:40] <ppibburr> but ensure reboots or shutdowns are clean
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> let me do a bit of reading here
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> and ill be back
[04:40] <josh__> there's no defaults.list
[04:40] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: 1 sec
[04:41] <Cpudan80> nevermind my bad
[04:41]  * Cpudan80 smacks self
[04:41] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: i'd recommend this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106122
[04:41] <zezu> I've got no audio on a HP notebook w/ ICH8, alsamixer shows volume up/no mute, modules are loaded properly it seems, and main system volume is up, but no audio (7.10) .. anyone have any ideas?
[04:41] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: extremely well supported on *nix (there's a dedicated employee at intel who writes the drivers for freebsd), and very good performance
[04:41] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: and it's gigabit, so if/when you choose to upgrade your lan you are already set
[04:41] <Stroganoff> josh__, qry
[04:41] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[04:42] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: and not overly expensive ($30 shipped is well worth it than trying to get your realtek to give any sort of performance)
[04:42] <josh__> qry?
[04:42] <Stroganoff> nvm
[04:42] <hischild> what is a decent command line torrent program?
[04:43] <Fryguy--> hischild: rtorrent BY FAR is the best choice
[04:43] <Fryguy--> hischild: for cli or gui
[04:43] <chapocer3> Hi ya'll. I have been having a problem booting in to Ubuntu... every time after i choose ubuntu from GRUB, my monitor goes in to Power Saving mode.. sometimes my monitor will come back on once i get to the login screen... but sometimes my comp just reboots after about a minute of not recieving a video signal.. I've researched this from both the perspective of possible issues with my monitor (LG L1920P) and from the perspective of an issue wi
[04:43] <Stroganoff> josh__, have you tried "preferred applications" or something like that in your gnome settings menu?
[04:43] <hischild> Fryguy--, it's cli i'm looking for
[04:43] <Fryguy--> hischild: then rtorrent is what you want.
[04:43] <hischild> Fryguy--, any chance you can help me get it running? =)
[04:43] <Fryguy--> rtorrent has wonderful documentation, pretty self explanatory
[04:43] <Stroganoff> chapocer3, try to uninstall usplash
[04:44] <hischild> i failed the last time i tried ..
[04:44] <gr1ff1n> hello
[04:44] <chapocer3> ok..
[04:44] <Fryguy--> hischild: so try again, and read more documentation
[04:44] <hischild> Fryguy--, i'm already reading =)
[04:44] <Fryguy--> hischild: i'm on freebsd, so I don't know how much help I'd be to you anyway
[04:45] <nino> m
[04:45] <hischild> Fryguy--, that's ok, i welcome any help
[04:45] <gr1ff1n> is there a way to make a card reader working on gutsy ?? Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22) pls
[04:45] <Ownatik> Hi, I installed ubuntu but Grub doesn't load at start. I tried reinstalling it from a tutorial on the forum but it's still not working. Someone can help me?
[04:45] <ppibburr> there is a rtorrent deb
[04:45] <hf> hey guys i am really stuck at a problem!... i was haivng problems with my sound card... so i updated to the newest alsa drivers.. and now my sound card isnt even being detected!!!!! can anyone please help me!
[04:45] <Fryguy--> Ownatik: how many hard drives do you have
[04:46] <Stroganoff> chapocer3, have you tried the recovery option in grub yet?
[04:46] <Ownatik> Fryguy-- 2
[04:46] <gr1ff1n> hf: run: module-assistant auto-install alsa
[04:46] <chronos> I'm on my laptop in a city about 38 miles away from my home computer. I have ubuntu installed on each computer with SSH and FISH access to each. I really need to see my Firefox history on my home computer so I can show a page to my boss. Is there any way to see the history from here?
[04:46] <Fryguy--> chronos: you can use X11 forwarding if you want
[04:46] <acxty> does screen is available for ubuntu?
[04:46] <Fryguy--> ssh -X
[04:46] <Stroganoff> chronos, copy the whole .mozilla folder ^^
[04:47] <Fryguy--> acxty: that's not english
[04:47] <Ownatik> but one is an old used only for backup, windows and linux are installed on the same HD
[04:47] <acxty> Fryguy--, ???
[04:47] <chronos> Stroganoff: where's the history in that folder? I don't want to replace the contents of my firefox with the one from home?
[04:47] <Stroganoff> chronos, no just the history.dat
[04:47] <Fryguy--> chronos: just do X11 forwarding and run firefox remotely
[04:47] <Ashfire908> Is doing 50-70 mb of install/updates (downloading, unpacking, configuring) hard on the life expentancy of a usbdrive at all?
[04:47] <Fryguy--> chronos: will probably be faster to get set up
[04:47] <HinHin> hey guys, how do i make an application get called globally?
[04:47] <Stroganoff> chronos, you could make a backup of your firefox
[04:47] <ppibburr> ashfire no
[04:47] <Fryguy--> HinHin: what do you mean
[04:48] <chronos> Fryguy--: will tha take over the sesson that I have running at the house?
[04:48] <Fryguy--> chronos: no
[04:48] <chapocer3> Stroganoff, after uninstalling usplash (it also uninstalled ubuntu-desktop with it), is there anything i need to reinstall in order to not bork my boot process?
[04:48] <Ownatik> Fryguy--: i have 2 HD, but one is an old used only for backup, windows and linux are installed on the same HD
[04:48] <Fryguy--> Ownatik: what happens if you try to boot from the other hard drive?
[04:49] <HinHin> Fryguy--, let's say i compiled some program and e.g. aircrack but i can only access that program if i call it while i'm in the directory it's installed in
[04:49] <Ownatik> Fryguy--: didn't try
[04:49] <Stroganoff> chapocer3, was there anything else that has been uninstalled by this?
[04:49] <chronos> Fryguy--: so essentially, my wife can continue surfing without me disturbing her firefox?
[04:49] <HinHin> i want to just type 'aircrack-ng' to open the program anywhere
[04:49] <Fryguy--> HinHin: put the executable in a directory that is in your PATH (echo $PATH to see it)
[04:49] <ppibburr> hinhin symbolic link
[04:49] <Stroganoff> !paste > chapocer3
[04:49] <Fryguy--> chronos: yes
[04:49] <Ownatik> Fryguy--: but when i was installing grub i didn't hear the scratch of my old HD
[04:49] <chapocer3> Stroganoff, no i just selected to remove usplash, and it removed usplash and ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <Fryguy--> chronos: your wife should be a different user on the system though :)
[04:49] <Fryguy--> Ownatik: so, try it
[04:49] <chronos> Alright I'll give it a shot
[04:50] <ppibburr> or add the dir to your path
[04:50] <Stroganoff> i'm not sure about these -desktop meta packages anymore (i dont use them)
[04:50] <Ownatik> k
[04:50] <Stroganoff> but you should be fine, chapocer3
[04:50] <HinHin> ppibburr, how do i make sym links?
[04:50] <josh__> i want :  http://www.flickr.com/photos/21166408@N04/2347177100/  to replace  http://www.flickr.com/photos/21166408@N04/2347178230/
[04:50] <zezu> anyone even have suggestions on where i can find more info about non working audio? i've looked at much of the audio related threads on forums etc, but there are many many
[04:50] <josh__> that shoudl clear things up
[04:50] <chapocer3> ok, thank you very much for your assistance, im going to see if that solved me
[04:50] <Fryguy--> chronos: it should be as easy as ssh -X yourname@yourothercomputer.com, then when you get a connection, if you run firefox from the command line it should run your remote firefox and display it on your local screen.  you might need to google some of the details but yah
[04:50] <ppibburr> sudo ln -s path/to/file /usr/bin/
[04:50] <ppibburr> might work
[04:50] <Stroganoff> chapocer3, your video driver could still be messed up
[04:50] <HinHin> cool i'll try that
[04:51] <Stroganoff> chapocer3, no info, no answers ;)
[04:51] <Fryguy--> chronos: if you run into enough problems you can just swap .firefox directories for the time being (back up your current one, grab the remote machines one, put that in place, run firefox, get bookmarks, and then switch back
[04:51] <Fryguy--> chronos: also, i recommend google bookmarks with the gmarks firefox extension if you do multiple machine bookmarking a lot
[04:52] <Fryguy--> ppibburr: don't put non-ubuntu things in /usr/bin, self-compiled things should go in /usr/local/bin or /opt
[04:52] <Thkaal> Le sigh, I have a question about Feisty if people are still answering those.  I transferred my hd to a new system and now it won't boot.  The splash screen freezes the moment it shows up.  Then after a few moments it gives me that /bin/modprobe abnormal exit error.  Any fixes?  I checked the forurms, but the mobo doesn't have raid.
[04:52] <Stroganoff> chronos, the session is in sessionstore.js
[04:53] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, does the recovery mode work?
[04:53] <hischild> Fryguy--, i can't get my torrents to move from closed ... it's a 600 meg torrent yet it won't start ... :(
[04:53] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, there should be an option in grub
[04:53] <Fryguy--> hischild: select the torrent and press ctrl-s
[04:53] <Fryguy--> what happens
[04:53] <Thkaal> recovery mode from the live cd?
[04:53] <hischild> Fryguy--, closed state moves yet doesn't start
[04:53] <Stroganoff> no from your hard drive grub
[04:53] <Stroganoff> press esc while grub is starting
[04:53] <Thkaal> oh that...
[04:54] <Stroganoff> you could uninstall usplash
[04:54] <Zach_> im trying to install linux on my flash drive (fat) and i get the directory too deep error so i tried NTFS and that doenst work ether any ideas
[04:54] <Fryguy--> hischild: press right arrow and see if you are connected to any peers, or if there are any trackers
[04:54] <Thkaal> it loads up to a certain point, then it just stops.  no prompt at all.
[04:54] <Stroganoff> "certain point"?
[04:54] <hischild> Fryguy--, one tracker, that i know is up ... and peer list shows UBFAILED
[04:54] <Thkaal> it states that error and then stops
[04:54] <fatguy> how do I tell if I have the ohci_hcd module?
[04:55] <gr1ff1n> lsmod | grep ohci_hcd should tell you that
[04:55] <Fryguy--> hischild: make your terminal wider
[04:55] <Fryguy--> hischild: is the torrent something you can share?
[04:56] <Thkaal> The recovery mode loads and when it comes to that error, it stops.  That's what I mean by certain point.
[04:56] <Zimbo> Could someone clue me in as to what the different between aptitude and apt-get is?  The later retrieves "bundles" of packages all at once rather than just individual packages or something?
[04:56] <fatguy> ohci_hcd               22916  0
[04:56] <fatguy> usbcore               138632  5 ndiswrapper,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[04:56] <hischild> Fryguy--, i'll ssh ... second
[04:56] <gr1ff1n> fatguy: your module is loaded then
[04:56] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: aptitude is newer, functionally for day to day use there is little to no difference between them as far as I know
[04:57] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, what about backupping /home and reinstalling? :D
[04:57] <Zimbo> And "aptitude SomeRandomPackage" will generally work the same as "apt-get SomeRandomPackage" ?
[04:57] <fatguy> grlffln, its supposed to run my usb ports and its not working...
[04:58] <Stroganoff> Zimbo, generelly yes, but there are minor differences
[04:58] <Zimbo> ok, thanks
[04:58] <hischild> Fryguy--, the huge and amazing difference is that you have to apt-get autoremove to remove unused packages as where aptitude does that, aptitude sorts the searches, has a nicer front end and apt has a lot of different programs (apt-cache, apt-file etc) which are all integrated into aptitude.
[04:58] <gr1ff1n> fatguy: what have you got when you run: lsusb ?
[04:58] <Stroganoff> Zimbo, in gutsy you should always use apt-get
[04:58] <Zimbo> Back in a bit... I have to re-start the X server...
[04:58] <fatguy> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:58] <fatguy> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia
[04:58] <fatguy> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:59] <Thkaal> Stroganoff, I tried reinstalling, but it comes up with the same error.  I would love to try to do some of the chroot fixes on the forums, just to test if installing the modules listed would help, but I don't kno whow to do that.
[04:59] <fatguy> The microdia is my webcam I am guessing
[04:59] <Stroganoff> Fryguy-- apt-get is newer..
[04:59] <Fryguy--> Stroganoff: no it's not
[04:59] <Fryguy--> apt-get has been around since before ubuntu
[04:59] <josh__> __> i want :  http://www.flickr.com/photos/21166408@N04/2347177100/  to replace  http://www.flickr.com/photos/21166408@N04/2347178230/
[04:59] <josh__> i hope this helps
[04:59] <Stroganoff> aptitude even longer, Fryguy--
[04:59] <Fryguy--> Stroganoff: are you sure?
[04:59] <Stroganoff> yep
[05:00] <tritium> Stroganoff: no, apt-get came first
[05:00] <Stroganoff> mkay :/
[05:00] <tritium> But both apt-get and aptitude preceded ubuntu
[05:00] <Fryguy--> i was using apt-get back in the 1.x versions of debian
[05:00] <unop__> Zimbo, aptitude installs recommended packages by default, and has better dependency resolution algorithms for when you have broken package scenarios
[05:00] <hischild> Fryguy--, the peer lsit is empty
[05:00] <Stroganoff> aptitude is deprecated nonetheless ^^
[05:00] <gr1ff1n> fatguy: your usb ports isn t recognised, hold on
[05:00] <Thkaal> i could wait for hardy heron to come out, but has that module been a fix?
[05:01] <tritium> Stroganoff: no, it's not deprecated.  It's a valid tool.
[05:01] <Stroganoff> for some tasks
[05:01] <fatguy> grlffln, ok
[05:01] <unop__> Stroganoff, like what tasks exactly?
[05:01] <Fryguy--> hischild: so then you aren't going to download if you don't have any peers
[05:01] <tritium> Stroganoff: for all the same tasks apt-get performs.
[05:01] <Stroganoff> managing package freezes and what not
[05:01] <hischild> Fryguy--, which makes perfect sense ... yet how can i get em in there ... as i can't see an error nor does it give me one
[05:02] <efirewick> IndyGunFreak: Finally got 7.10 to install. used gparted boot cd, and also had to unflag ntfs boot and mark as hidden for ubuntu live partition editor not to hang.
[05:02] <Fryguy--> hischild: maybe nobody is seeding the torrent
[05:02] <Stroganoff> yeah but apt-get recently got pretty good orphan packages / autoremove abilities, too
[05:02] <fatguy> grlffln, I believe this is my USB  controller http://hardware4linux.info/component/17663/
[05:02] <hischild> Fryguy--, doubtfully ... just checked it on the other box, which downloads it perfectly
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> efirewick: great.. problematic installs always suck
[05:02] <efirewick> thanks for the help.
[05:02] <Fryguy--> hischild: dunno then
[05:02] <unop__> Stroganoff, hmm, that might be an ubuntu specific thing ( i heard ubuntu wasnt developing aptitude as eagerly as debian) but not so on debian
[05:02] <Fryguy--> hischild: might be a firewall thing
[05:02] <hischild> i'll look tomorrow ... nwo i'm gonna get some sleep
[05:03] <Fryguy--> hischild: go bug the rtorrent people
[05:03] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, are u using any strange hardware?
[05:03] <captaingeek> holy crap fryguy!
[05:03] <captaingeek> how long are you gonna be on here?
[05:03] <hischild> Fryguy--, i'll bug em when i'm awake and not as sleepy as i am now =)
[05:03] <hischild> thanks though!
[05:03] <Fryguy--> captaingeek: ?
[05:03] <efirewick> I was just getting nervous, thought I had to force my wife to start using windows again...=-O
[05:03] <Thkaal> Stroganoff, no.  It's a hellish packard.
[05:03] <Thkaal> a wally-world special.
[05:04] <gr1ff1n> fatguy: have you got any error mesg after pluggin in ?
[05:04] <Fryguy--> captaingeek: what do you mean how long am I gonna be here?
[05:04] <Fryguy--> i've only been here like 5 hours
[05:04] <Fryguy--> today
[05:04] <fatguy> grlffln: none tried mouse and usb drive
[05:05] <darkscript> when i am in fedora i use rpm -ql [packagename] too look at a package i installed via yum
[05:05] <Thkaal> It's wierd, the thing worked fine.  Was even able to get the decss and flash to work on it without problems.
[05:05] <darkscript> how do i look at where things are installed via debian files?
[05:05] <captaingeek> what are some cool things to do with linux that you can't do with winblows?
[05:05] <linuxfreak78> Hello everyone
[05:05] <darkscript> is there an rpm -ql equivalent?
[05:05] <unop__> darkscript, dpkg -l
[05:05] <Thkaal> captaingeek, you can brag that you have a windows free system
[05:05] <Fryguy--> captaingeek: have a usable shell that has useful functionality, remotely connect to that shell, export it to other machines
[05:05] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, have you analysed /var/log/syslog?
[05:05] <Thkaal> captaingeek, that alone is work billions.
[05:05] <ppibburr> Captian: write custom interface script to every thing? OTB
[05:06] <leo_rockw> captaingeek: move windows like jello? lol
[05:06] <darkscript> thanks
[05:06] <gr1ff1n> fatguy: run dmesg | tail after pluggin any usb...
[05:06] <Thkaal> stroganoff, let me go look at it.
[05:06] <Stroganoff> plox :roll:
[05:06] <Fryguy--> i love when I ask people to not message me, and yet they continue to
[05:06] <Fryguy--> I have WAY TOO MANY windows open right now to deal with messages
[05:06] <captaingeek> how do you make a shell script that can format user-inputted data into an email and send it?
[05:06] <slag> Hey all, I have a nvidia card with an S-video out and was wondering if I can pipe AVI movies out of the ubunt box to my TV?
[05:07] <josh__> test?
[05:07] <josh__> can people read this?
[05:07] <r00723r0> Yes.
[05:07] <Fryguy--> josh__: yes
[05:07] <Fryguy--> captaingeek: outside the scope of this channel
[05:07] <josh__> coo
[05:07] <Krozy> captaingeek: A major reason why I switched was for better hardware support.
[05:07] <dsf> hey guys i am having a VERY weird problem... for some reason i am getting sound coming out of my speakers and my headphones whereas that shouldn't happen when my headphones are plugged in!!... anyone know how to resolve this issue!????
[05:07] <Stroganoff> captaingeek, look into shell scripting, into the "read" command and into the launch parameters of your mail client
[05:07] <r00723r0> Anyone know of any good GTK audio players like Exaile?
[05:07] <slag> Can someone tell me how.....what application i need?
[05:08] <Fryguy--> r00723r0: quodlibet
[05:08] <r00723r0> Quodlibet comes with that annoying tagging program.
[05:08] <ppibburr> xmms is gtk
[05:08] <r00723r0> Something without skins.
[05:08] <Stroganoff> r00723r0, rythmbox?
[05:08] <Fryguy--> r00723r0: imo that "annoying tagging program" is one of the absolute best available
[05:08] <Thkaal> stroganoff, var/log/syslog is empty
[05:08] <Stroganoff> r00723r0, audacious?
[05:09] <r00723r0> I'll give quodlibet another try.
[05:09] <Stroganoff> Thkaal /var/log/syslog.0 ?
[05:09] <unop__> captaingeek,   read msg; sendmail person@domain.com <<< $msg   -- although it might not work and depends on your version of sendmail
[05:09] <Thkaal> stroganoff, i only have one syslog there, and it's empty.
[05:09] <Stroganoff> strange ^^
[05:10] <norty> Question: When I open pdfs and often time other programs my screen opens to a size larger than my screen, how do I get it so that it opens to the screen max but not over?
[05:10] <Stroganoff> we're talking about the syslog of your broken installation, right? :D
[05:10] <Thkaal> yes.
[05:10] <dsf> hey guys i am having a VERY weird problem... for some reason i am getting sound coming out of my speakers and my headphones whereas that shouldn't happen when my headphones are plugged in!!... anyone know how to resolve this issue!???? ps... i have Intel Corporation 82801H  soundcard
[05:10] <r00723r0> Something's wrong with my Gstreamer. I have no clue what, or even how to diagnose. Anyone have any advice?
[05:11] <Thkaal> not from filesystem.
[05:11] <unop__> !pm | captaingeek
[05:11] <ubotu> captaingeek: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:11] <r00723r0> I get some fakesink shit.
[05:11] <Thkaal> the one from /media/disk/var/log/syslog
[05:11] <captaingeek> !pm | unop__
[05:11] <ubotu> unop__: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:11] <fatguy> grlffln: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24847229@N03/2347206020/
[05:11] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, have you reinstalled clean (deleting everything but /home)?
[05:11] <captaingeek> !help
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[05:11] <leo_rockw> !ohmy r00723r0
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[05:12] <leo_rockw> !ohmy | r00723r0
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[05:12] <r00723r0> Alright.
[05:12] <Thkaal> stroganoff, i did more than that, I completely rebuilt the partition.  formatted and everything.
[05:12] <josh__> why is noone helping me
[05:12] <Ububegin> Anyone knows how to change this skin... *when u click the red button on the top-right corner, which shows the Logout, Switch User and Lock Screen etc..*
[05:12] <slag> Hey all, I have a nvidia card with an S-video out and was wondering if I can pipe AVI movies out of the ubunt box to my TV?
[05:12] <slag> do i need a special application ?
[05:13] <CE_BASSIST> aaaaaa
[05:13] <Thkaal> I did a completely clean reinstall of ubuntu.
[05:13] <Stroganoff> gutsy? :D
[05:14] <slag> yes gutsy
[05:14] <Stroganoff> have you tried alternate cd -> command-line system (install mode)
[05:14] <Zimbo> Since I'm a somewhat lame Windows user at times, is there a means to set double-clicking a window's "root" menu (the upper left-hand button) to execute "Close" like Windows does?  I used to have a KDE install around that I believe did this, although machine has Gnome on it
[05:14] <Stroganoff> Thkaal
[05:15] <Thkaal> stroganoff, a different version of ubuntu?  because that cd was brand new, just burned it.
[05:15] <Johnny4> lo
[05:15] <Stroganoff> alternate cd is an alternative installer for the current ubuntu (gutsy)
[05:15] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: i don't think the default ubuntu window manager supports that.  There are hundreds of window managers available though, i'm sure you can find one that has the feature set you are looking for
[05:15] <fatguy> grlffln: you get that?
[05:16] <Thkaal> i haven't even downloaded gutsy yet, this is all feisty.
[05:16] <Zimbo> Fryguy: OK... it is a Gnome issue rather than a Ubuntu one, right?
[05:16] <leo_rockw> Zimbo: yeah, what you're describing can be done easily in kde, idk about gnome tho
[05:16] <Stroganoff> ok then Thkaal
[05:16] <Stroganoff> try gutsy ;)
[05:16] <Zimbo> Alright, I'll do some Googling and see what I can find
[05:16] <abhi_> help my monitor has gone blank. i don't know what went wrong i think it's displaying at the wrong resolution. i get the login screen but after i log in, the screen goes blank. how to resolve? the machine is working fine, i can ssh to it.
[05:16] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: it's neither, it's your window manager
[05:17] <Fryguy--> abhi_: ssh to it, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and grab an older version of it
[05:17] <Fryguy--> or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:17] <abhi_> Fryguy--: wat u mean older version?
[05:17] <Thkaal> stroganoff, alright.  and to update to heron, I just save the /home?
[05:17] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, ubuntu.com -> download -> "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD"
[05:17] <Fryguy--> abhi_: i'm assuming you were making changes when it broke?
[05:17] <Thkaal> yeah, i know.  already dl'ing
[05:18] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, if your gutsy is running fine, you can just update to heron in a couple of weeks without worrying about /home
[05:18] <Zimbo> Fryguy: My window manager would be Compiz at the moment?
[05:18] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: yes
[05:18] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: probably
[05:19] <Zimbo> So what window manage to Kubuntu use?  (Since KDE is where I've seen this feature before)
[05:19] <Thkaal> okay.  i had heard that gutsy had this problem too.
[05:19] <Fryguy--> the kde window manager, kwm i think it's called
[05:19] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, start a topic in the forums then
[05:19] <Stroganoff> this channel has its limits ;)
[05:19] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: i'd give you recommendations on window managers, but you wouldn't like what i use :)
[05:19] <Zimbo> Ah, gotcha... so desktop managers often have preferred windows managers, although in theory you can mix and match?
[05:19] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: yes
[05:20] <Thkaal> alright.
[05:20] <Stroganoff> Thkaal, try installing a cmdline system first
[05:20] <liEta> i
[05:20] <Zimbo> Where does something like GTK come into all this?  Does a GTK app "talk" (call) the window manager or the desktop manager?  Or both?
[05:20] <Thkaal> Will do.  thanks for the help.
[05:20] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: gtk has nothing to do with either of those things
[05:21] <Fryguy--> gtk is just a mechanism for drawing windows and controls inside of windows on the screen
[05:21] <liEta> zz
[05:21] <abhi_> Fryguy--: pretty weird i am able to get an output on Vncviewer from my laptop. i checked the resolution using that, its correct for the monitor, i am able to switch resolutions also using vncviewr but i strangely don't get any output on the monitor. why is this happening?
[05:21]  * nikrud wonders if Fryguy-- ever sleeps
[05:21] <Zimbo> Right, but doesn't gtk itself have to talk to either an X server or a windows manager?
[05:21] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: it will communicate directly with x
[05:21] <kindofabuzz> what would be a good way to delete my XP from one hard drive and then move my ubuntu partition to that hard drive?
[05:21] <Fryguy--> abhi_: no idea, i don't use vnc
[05:21] <Ububegin> which player can play radio channels from *ShoutCast* .. I have tried Rhythmbox and xmms but to no avail
[05:21] <Zimbo> And X will notify the windows manager that will then add decorations to the window?
[05:21] <kindofabuzz> and get grub right
[05:22] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: yes
[05:22] <Stroganoff> kindofabuzz, format xp partition, move your filesystem to that partition and edit grub menu.lst and /etc/fstab accordingly
[05:22] <Stroganoff> that should be it, roughly
[05:22] <Zimbo> Ah, ok, I can see now why theming (more or less) works regardless of whether you have a native GTK app or wxGTK app, etc., then, I guess
[05:22] <kindofabuzz> that's it?
[05:22] <Fryguy--> kindofabuzz: yes
[05:22] <RCA`> is it possible to install ubuntu on my pc ( i am running windows vista ) i just want to use both, like ubuntu in a different window or something.... ((i do have the original ubuntu cd in my hands))
[05:23] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: wxGTK is just a wrapper around gtk to make things easier, it's still gtk
[05:23] <unop__> Zimbo, the xserver asks gtk applications to draw themselves to the screen -- the window manager typically asks a gtk application to maximize, minimize, stick, etc
[05:23] <kindofabuzz> so when i format the xp part it won't get rid of the grub?
[05:23] <Fryguy--> RCA`: it's possible, but not recommended, to install ubuntu inside of windows.  If you really want to install both, look at virtualization programs like virtualbox or vmware
[05:23] <nikrud> RCA`: you can either install it on another partition on the drive, and boot alternately, or install vmware-server on your vista and run ubuntu inside that (a window in vista)
[05:24] <Stroganoff> kindofabuzz, you could do all that with the livecd including reinstalling grub
[05:24] <bladinho> felips ;D
[05:24] <felips> hi, bladinho
[05:24] <Fryguy--> kindofabuzz: if you do get rid of grub, you can use a livecd to just reinstall it
[05:24] <abhi_> can anyone tell me why do i get a blank screen on my monitor after login? i am able to see this screen on a remote machine using vncviewer though
[05:24] <kindofabuzz> why would you install linux inside windows?  kinda defeats the purpose
[05:24] <Fryguy--> kindofabuzz: not really
[05:24] <Zimbo> I've written wxWidgets apps before (on PCs), where essentially it's wxWin32 -> win32 GDI calls -> (video card driver, I suppose).  If I write a wxGTK app it's wxGTK -> GTK -> X server which then fires off messages to the window manager and desktop manager?
[05:24] <unop__> kindofabuzz, for the inverse of the reason you install windows within linux i suppose :)
[05:24] <individual_eleve> hello,is there a site in which could help me how to put 2 hard disk on a single pc,i want to use the other hd to install ubuntu
[05:25] <nikrud> kindofabuzz: I run windows inside linux, makes better sense to me but some might want the opposite
[05:25] <Fryguy--> kindofabuzz: there's plenty of uses to have a linux sandbox like that
[05:25] <Stroganoff> yep
[05:25] <jester45> how do i change my icon theme? i have the folder in /usr/share/icons/
[05:25] <Stroganoff> jester45, using the gnome settings manager
[05:25] <Napoleon98> for vbox I need to enable my usb devices in the /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh file, but I'm new to linux so have no idea how to do this...
[05:25] <nikrud> jester45: system->prefs->appearance, hit the customize button. Then you can select icon theme
[05:25] <Fryguy--> jester45: right click on desktop, hit change background, click on the first tab, then customize, and you'll see an icon tab there
[05:26] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:26] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:26] <Stroganoff> goood night
[05:26] <individual_eleve> hello,is there a site in which could help me how to put 2 hard disk on a single pc,i want to use the other hd to install ubuntu..
[05:26] <jester45> ok thanks Fryguy--
[05:26] <bladinho> felips ;D
[05:26] <Fryguy--> !rpeeat individual_eleve
[05:26] <unop__> Zimbo, you could see it that way but the x-server isn't always the bridge between the application and the window manager
[05:26] <Fryguy--> !repeat | individual_eleve
[05:26] <ubotu> individual_eleve: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:26] <jester45> individual_eleve: not a site but i cant help
[05:26] <nikrud> Fryguy--: interesting change to the background switcher
[05:26] <individual_eleve> sorry
[05:26] <Zimbo> ok, thanks unop__
[05:26] <RCA`> ok ill download vmware server and ill try it on
[05:26] <jester45> individual_eleve: i meant i can
[05:27] <RCA`> i don't know what it is but ill find out soonn
[05:27] <RCA`> :)
[05:27] <Fryguy--> nikrud: ?
[05:27] <Zimbo> Any suggestions -- given that I've done a few wxWidgets apps -- whether it'd be better to try writing Linux apps with GTK++ vs. wxGTK?
[05:27] <Stroganoff> RCA` wait
[05:27] <Stroganoff> VMware costs money
[05:27] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: wrong channel
[05:27] <cyborg> -hi
[05:27] <nikrud> Fryguy--: haven't changed the background enough to realize it pulls up gnome-appearance-properties now
[05:27] <individual_eleve> ok,,can u tell me how..
[05:27] <Zimbo> Good point, sorry I was getting carried away
[05:27] <Fryguy--> nikrud: oh
[05:27] <nikrud> Stroganoff: no, vmware-server is free
[05:28] <Stroganoff> ok
[05:28] <Fryguy--> nikrud: back when I was using gnome, I didn't have any panels, so I found it faster to do that than to alt-f2 and start typing
[05:28] <spartan7_> question. i am running compiz cube but I cannot see the whole cube. can anyone help?
[05:28] <Stroganoff> but you need machine files too?
[05:28] <unop__> Zimbo, it's gtk+ not gtk++ :) and you probably will have better support/progress using the gtk+ api instead
[05:28] <cyborg> can somebody help me, how can i write files biger then 2 GB on my DL drive?
[05:28] <jester45> cyborg: what filesystem
[05:28] <unop__> cyborg, whats DL ?
[05:28] <geektasticgirl> hi
[05:28]  * nikrud starts just about everything with alt-f2 now
[05:29] <Fryguy--> cyborg: ?
[05:29] <Fryguy--> DL?
[05:29] <cyborg> duble layer
[05:29] <Fryguy--> nikrud: you mess with gnome-do at all?
[05:29] <nikrud> Fryguy--: not yet.
[05:29] <jester45> individual_eleve: can you join #viddandme ?
[05:29] <Zimbo> Thanks unop__ ... I'll look into that and get back on topic in this room :-)
[05:29] <unop__> netjoin
[05:29] <cyborg> udf
[05:29] <Stroganoff> RCA` http://wubi-installer.org/
[05:30] <nikrud> Fryguy--: it's not in the repos yet, so I wait, patiently
[05:30] <Stroganoff> RCA` if it doesn't work, file bug reports ^^
[05:30] <spartan7_> anyone know how I can view the whole compiz 3d cube?
[05:30] <nikrud> Stroganoff: wubi has some issues, RCA` should wait for the hardy version if he's going to use that
[05:30] <geektasticgirl> new to ubuntu, love it.. anyways.. when I installed it, it recognized my nvida 7950gt fine (in my PC).. it set me up at 1920x1200 resolution no problems.  But for some reason after a recent reboot I stuck at max resolution of 1600x1200.  I go to screen resolution and dont' see 1920 option. sigh
[05:30] <jester45> individual_eleve: what part are you stuck at ?
[05:30] <RCA`> Stroganoff can i run a ircd a eggdrop and a bnc on this ?
[05:30] <Fryguy--> nikrud: gnome-do might get me to come back to using a desktop environment again, we'll see (i use quicksilver at work and it's pretty nice)
[05:30] <nikrud> gack, I hate this
[05:30] <Fryguy--> RCA`: sure, but if that's all you want to do why not just use cygwin if you are determined to stay in windows?
[05:30] <cyborg> i have some big .mkv files
[05:31] <RCA`> cygwin ?
[05:31] <Stroganoff> RCA` it's included on the hardy heron alpha 6 iso
[05:31] <Fryguy--> cyborg: pretty sure the limit of iso9660 is 2GB
[05:31] <Stroganoff> cygwin is a good idea too
[05:31] <unop__> cyborg, it might be a limitation of the filesystem
[05:31] <RCA`> ok look , my plan is ...
[05:31] <Fryguy--> RCA`: www.cygwin.com
[05:31] <cyborg> no any chance?
[05:31] <jester45> cyborg: you could use split rar files
[05:31] <geektasticgirl> i can't get 1920x200 any longer.. max is 1600x1200 why?
[05:31] <unop__> cyborg, compress or split the files down
[05:32] <RCA`> i want to host a ircd (gnuworld compatible) a eggdrop and bnc for undernet ( for me ) someone told me to come here and ask help about it :s
[05:32] <cyborg> or make iso?
[05:32] <RCA`> i have a ubuntu cd here
[05:32] <Stroganoff> RCA` http://debian-cygwin.sourceforge.net/
[05:32] <Fryguy--> RCA`: this isn't really the appropriate place to be asking about server and application setup
[05:32] <jester45> geektasticgirl: try running this in a terminal cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep 1920
[05:32] <RCA`> i know
[05:32] <Fryguy--> we answer ubuntu questions, not linux server administration questions
[05:32] <Ashfire908> i'm trying to share a printer with samba but i can't connect to it and a windows coumputer can't either.
[05:32] <geektasticgirl> ok 1 sec jester
[05:33] <Fryguy--> jester45: don't cat | grep :(
[05:33] <Fryguy--> jester45: it hurts kittens
[05:33] <unop__> cyborg, you could make an iso file but you might not be able to burn it -- or you might be but not be able to read contents of the disc later on
[05:33] <jester45> o
[05:33] <jester45> sry its habit
[05:33] <Stroganoff> RCA`: either use the newest alpha of ubuntu, or use some emulator like "virtualpc" or "vmware", or use cygwin
[05:33] <Napoleon98> how would one change /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh to allow usb devices in vbox? I know what i need to change, just not how to, new to linux...
[05:33] <Fryguy--> Napoleon98: i'm pretty sure the ose edition of virtualbox doesn't support usb passthrough, might want to check into that
[05:33] <cyborg> then winxp  & nero?
[05:33] <Fryguy--> ok i really should go to bed now
[05:33] <geektasticgirl> jester i get nothing
[05:34] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: you'll need to add the 1920 resolution  back then,  you deleted it somehow
[05:34] <geektasticgirl> i have no idea how i deletee it
[05:34] <Zimbo> The one thing I still haven't been able to figure out is how to get system beeps in, e.g., a terminal actually produce a sound (being able to select a .wav file would be nice, but anything is better than nothing).  Any ideas?
[05:34] <geektasticgirl> i just installed system
[05:34] <Fryguy--> probably as simple as editing that file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) and finding the 1600x1200 lines and changing it to 1920
[05:34] <geektasticgirl> and didnt' mess with any confs
[05:34] <cyborg> or any other linux distro?
[05:34] <Fryguy--> Zimbo: wow you actually like your terminal to beep at you?
[05:34] <geektasticgirl> have no clue how it got deleted
[05:34] <Fryguy--> :(:(
[05:34] <nikrud> geektasticgirl: did you install the restricted driver ?
[05:34] <geektasticgirl> i was playign with wine resolution, that's it
[05:35] <geektasticgirl> i have the "New" nvidia driver
[05:35] <Napoleon98> the faq said to just delete a comment out of the file, but its read only, and i dunno the terminal script well enough atm to figure it out
[05:35] <Zimbo> I don't really like the nasty long PC speaker beep, but if I can't have a .wav (or similar) file, I'll take it over nothing
[05:35] <nikrud> ah, resolutions in wine. Not something I know in the least.
[05:35] <Fryguy--> ok i'm going to bed now :(
[05:35] <cyborg> ok thanks the help
[05:35] <geektasticgirl> well my desktop is 1600x1200 now all the way around lol
[05:35] <Fryguy--> 5.5 hours is enough :/
[05:35] <nikrud> Fryguy--: good night
[05:35] <unop__> cyborg, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 does say that 2GB is the maximum file size for a file on the iso-9660 filesystem
[05:35] <geektasticgirl> gonna edit theat conf file thanks
[05:35] <Zimbo> Thanks for the help Fryguy!
[05:35] <fbc> What would be the equivalent to the PUBLIC folder in ubuntu? I'd like to share music with the other users on my computer.
[05:36] <fismoll8> is nx a better remote desktop server than freenx?
[05:36] <Fryguy--> fbc, set up samba or nfs or cifs (google)
[05:36] <Fryguy--> fismoll8: xpra is better than both
[05:36] <fbc> Fryguy--, no, not across the network
[05:36] <unop__> fbc, i dont think there is one, but there are a variety of ways you can set something like that up
[05:36] <nikrud> goodnight, Fryguy-- ;)
[05:36] <cyborg> ahaammmm unoip__
[05:36] <fbc> Fryguy--, on the same computer
[05:36] <Stroganoff> geektasticgirl, have you tried nvidia-settings?
[05:36] <cyborg> ahaaammmm unop__
[05:36] <WindowSmasher> !flash
[05:36] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:37] <iskin> I'm running 8.04 and when I try to use effects I loose the window border. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:37] <geektasticgirl> says: Device : Generic Video card in teh xorg.conf
[05:37] <Fryguy--> fbc: oh, there is no default public folder, it would be easy enough to create one.  just pick a location and make it, and make it owned by group "users" with g+rwx permissions on it
[05:37] <Fryguy--> and just put it anywhere (/media might be a decent choice)
[05:37] <bazhang> !hardy | iskin
[05:37] <ubotu> iskin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:37] <fbc> unop__, ok any guide or howto?
[05:38] <fbc> Fryguy--, cool
[05:38] <geektasticgirl> geez looks like i am gonan have to reinstall unbuntu just tog et this rez working again. cause i have no clue how to edit this file
[05:38] <abhi_> Fryguy--: how do i resolve blank monitor issues? the only thing i remember doing is disabling compiz special effects, since then my monitor appears blank
[05:38] <fbc> Fryguy--, thanx
[05:38] <nikrud> geektasticgirl: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:38] <unop__> fbc, sudo mkdir /media/shared; sudo chmod -R 777 /media/shared
[05:38] <geektasticgirl> nikrud ok
[05:38] <cyborg> thx unop__
[05:39] <Johnny4> lo
[05:39] <Gary_inNYC> hi, is the latest update libkrb53 legit?
[05:39] <gramm> where is the install directory for gnuplot
[05:39] <gramm> ?
[05:39] <unop__> cyborg, it's probably why most DVD movies are split down into various .vob files .. the size limit
[05:39] <gramm> better question: where does gnuplot (through the repos) install to?
[05:39] <unop__> gramm, find out -- dpkg -L gnuplot
[05:39] <geektasticgirl> gonna reboot
[05:39] <geektasticgirl> thanks
[05:39] <gramm> unop__: thanks
[05:40] <cyborg> ok  i m not an expert this topic    ...   i m just downloadin some HD movies
[05:40] <cyborg> newbeborg
[05:40] <cyborg> :)
[05:40] <cyborg> thx
[05:40] <Gary_inNYC> i just have a quick question about an update prompt i'm getting for "libkrb53"... is it ok to install?
[05:41] <unop__> Gary_inNYC, sure
[05:41] <Gary_inNYC> thx
[05:41] <owen1> i want to temporary unload gnome from memory. is it possible?
[05:42] <owen1> or maybe just the gui.
[05:42] <unop__> owen1, you'll need to stop the GDM
[05:42] <owen1> unop__: can i bring it back?
[05:42] <tritium> owen1: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[05:42] <unop__> owen1, sure
[05:42] <HinHin> sudo /etc/gdm/stop
[05:42] <HinHin> i think
[05:42] <tritium> HinHin: close
[05:42] <Stroganoff> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:42] <HinHin> darn :P
[05:42] <HinHin> ah
[05:42] <Jberg88_> hello
[05:42] <HinHin> XD yea
[05:43] <tritium> owen1: then, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start, when you want to start it again
[05:43] <Stroganoff> owen1, use Ctrl+Alt*F6
[05:43] <fismoll8> Fryguy: xpra is better than nx?
[05:43] <owen1> tritium: and to start :  invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[05:43] <Stroganoff> and F7 is back.
[05:43] <owen1> tritium: (start)
[05:43] <tritium> owen1: yes
[05:43] <Stroganoff> owen1, why do you want to unload it? :D
[05:43] <owen1> Stroganoff: thanks
[05:44] <tritium> owen1: F1 through F5 are also valid.  No reason to prefer v.c. 6
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> !8ball are you a bot
[05:44] <Johnny4> tonyyarusso, my 8-ball says how appropriate, you fight like a cow...
[05:44] <onefunk> onefunk
[05:44] <fismoll8> anyone know of a remote desktop server that is free and faster than nx?
[05:44] <fismoll8> I think nx might be the fastest
[05:44] <owen1> i have only 512 ram and try to play flightGear. it's amazing flight simulator.
[05:44] <Stroganoff> tritium, let people have some discoveries of their own :p
[05:44] <thenetduck> hey, can someone here help me understand what IBM's DB2 Express -c virtual appliance does?
[05:44] <onefunk> anyone using Ardour?
[05:44] <Flyerfye> Hey guys, Im having trouble killing a process, Ive tried "killall wormux" and it doesnt work
[05:44] <Stroganoff> ok owen1, it wont run without xorg
[05:45] <Stroganoff> and gdm stops xorg
[05:45] <tritium> Stroganoff: he missed my comment, so he essentially did
[05:45] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:45] <Stroganoff> i mean stopping gdm stops xorg
[05:45] <unop__> Flyerfye, what does killall say when you try and kill that process?
[05:46] <unop__> . o 0 ( I tried driving my car and it doesn't work .. ?? )
[05:46] <Flyerfye> it completes without error but the process continues
[05:46] <fismoll8> Flyerfye: try killall gnome-panel and killall nautilus
[05:46] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:46] <fismoll8> if that doesn't work, type in /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:46] <fismoll8> then, make sure never to run that program again
[05:47] <unop__> Flyerfye, try this -- killall -15 wormux || killall  -9 wormux
[05:47] <Stroganoff> owen1, create a special gdm session for flightgear
[05:47] <fismoll8> good one unop--killall 9 is a beast
[05:47] <owen1> Stroganoff: tritium i am confused.
[05:47] <tritium> owen1: by what?
[05:47] <unop__> Flyerfye, why kill nautilus ??
[05:47] <Flyerfye> uhm
[05:47] <Flyerfye> one of them worked
[05:47] <Flyerfye> thanks
[05:47] <Flyerfye> I think unops
[05:47] <unop__> err fismoll8 why kill nautilus and the gnome-panel?
[05:47] <fismoll8> I thought his program had to do with one of them
[05:47] <Stroganoff> owen1, stopping gdm will prevent games from working.
[05:47] <Flyerfye> but the gnome panel and nautilus did nothing
[05:47] <neo> how to install modems in ubuntu? laptop model hp 9601au
[05:47] <Flyerfye> so.... thanks
[05:47] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:48] <owen1> Stroganoff: why?
[05:48] <jhonovich> how can i kill multiple processes at once, i know the pid numbers for each process
[05:48] <tritium> Stroganoff: because it stops X
[05:48] <unop__> fismoll8, he's trying to kill something called wormuz
[05:48] <lartza_> owen1: They depend on drivers what X runs
[05:48] <unop__> fismoll8, and kill -9 should be used sparingly -- which is why i used -15 first
[05:48] <owen1> Stroganoff: mmm.
[05:48] <Stroganoff> owen1, there is a way
[05:48] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:48] <Bongrips4life> hi.  i am new to ubuntu and was having a hard time with amarok
[05:49] <Stroganoff> you know how to use the terminal and sudo?
[05:49] <unop__> jhonovich, for i in pid1 pid2 ..; do kill $i; done
[05:49] <Bongrips4life> it plays a mp3 file but i dont get sound
[05:49] <owen1> Stroganoff: yes. i am actually using irssi now.
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> !dialup | neo
[05:49] <ubotu> neo: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[05:49] <jhonovich> unop__:  sweet, thanks
[05:49] <Bongrips4life> i know my speakers are working i dont know what is wrong
[05:50] <Stroganoff> owen1, find this settings dialogue in ubuntu: http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/scottgm/Screenshot-Sessions.png
[05:50] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok. thank you!
[05:50] <tritium> owen1: are you good?  I'm going to bed, unless you have another question for me?
[05:50] <owen1> tritium: no. but thanks for the help!
[05:50] <tritium> owen1: no problem.  Good night.
[05:51] <onefunk> anyone using Ardour?
[05:51] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:52] <levander> Has anyone else checked out Magnatune on rhythmbox?  How do I get rid of the lady who counts tracks in between in each song?
[05:52] <owen1> Stroganoff: my session screen looks different. i am using 7.10
[05:52] <neo> actually i could not find any drivers for my modem
[05:52] <Stroganoff> owen1 create a session
[05:52] <Zimbo> I'm reading about the slocate command here, and it says that typically 'updatedb' is run by a scheduled job every day or week... how do I verify whether or not that job is scheduled?
[05:52] <Stroganoff> owen1 a new session. it must not contain "gnome-session" but "xterm"
[05:52] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:53] <ChrisULM> hey guys, whenever i open up "movie player" it opens up in fullscreen and I cant close the window. the only way to get it to close is by using alt+f4. Any ideas?
[05:53] <owen1> Stroganoff: how to create new one?
[05:53] <unop__> Zimbo, the job is a cronjob -- and it should be in /etc/cron.d/daily
[05:53] <Stroganoff> click the button
[05:53] <lartza_> I can't compile QuesoGLC, OpenGL Utility missing
[05:53] <Stroganoff> it dont use gnome, owen1
[05:53] <Stroganoff> otherwise, use this help file or similar, owen1
[05:53] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession
[05:53] <co_manies> cah ganteng
[05:54] <Zimbo> unop__: The only thing in /etc/cron.d is a file named anacron?  (and .placeholder)
[05:54] <owen1> Stroganoff: in my sessions form, i don't have this button.
[05:54] <lartza_> one problem: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libasound.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libasound.la'
[05:54] <Zimbo> Ah, but there are other cron directories (looking now)
[05:54] <Zimbo> cron.daily is where it is
[05:55] <Zimbo> Cool, thanks unop
[05:55] <Zimbo> If your PC has been powered off do all the "missed" cron jobs run when you next power it up & log on?
[05:55] <lartza_> HOw can I install OpenGL Utility? I can't compile QuesoGLC
[05:55] <Stroganoff> owen1 there are two way: use sudo and a text editor (like nano) and edit in /etc/gnome/sessions
[05:55] <Stroganoff> or use that alternative method, owen1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession
[05:55] <nikrud> Zimbo: a few minutes later, yes.
[05:56] <Stroganoff> owen1, i cant help you with buttons for i have no gnome.
[05:56] <Zimbo> Thanks nikrud.  (Looking at some jobs...)  I see they 'nice' themselves... clever folks, those linux guys...
[05:56] <nikrud> Zimbo: /etc/init.d/anacron handles that
[05:56] <owen1> Stroganoff: what do u have instead?
[05:56] <Stroganoff> some mix up of xfce and icewm
[05:57] <CVD-PR> hey
[05:57] <Stroganoff> owen1 i will post a minimal install script on the forums soon, stay tuned :D
[05:57] <lartza_> I'm using gnome, what's your problem?
[05:57] <Stroganoff> until then, use above methods.
[05:58] <owen1> Stroganoff: install of what, icewm? is it a gnome replacement?
[05:58] <lartza_> owen1: Gome or metacity replacement
[05:58] <Zimbo> Goodnight guys, thanks for all the help
[05:58] <Stroganoff> lartza_, he wants to create a minimal gdm session in order to play a flight simulator
[05:58] <lartza_> gome>gnome
[05:58] <lartza_> Stroganoff: I can't play it neither, I mean FlightGear
[05:59] <owen1> i can play. but not full screen.
[05:59] <howdyho> Hello
[05:59] <lartza_> owen1: Maybe try sudo apt-get install icewm and icewm --replace?
[05:59] <unop__> Stroganoff, he can do away with the GDM completely -- and start XFCE/Fluxbox from a terminal
[05:59] <Stroganoff> just create a minimal GDM or X session damnit
[05:59] <howdyho> You guys I have a question.. you don't have to tell me HOW to do it.. just if it's possible.. I'll try to find the answer somewhere
[05:59] <unop__> !ask | howdyho
[05:59] <ubotu> howdyho: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:00] <owen1> lartza_: sure. but i first want to try Stroganoff idea.
[06:00] <Stroganoff> thats right unop__
[06:00] <howdyho> Sorry =(
[06:00] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession
[06:00] <lartza_> mine would be easier...
[06:00] <Stroganoff> owen1
[06:00] <Stroganoff> read this wiki page
[06:00] <lartza_> helped for me with couple games
[06:00] <howdyho> Well the question is: The menu where I get to pick the sessions in the beginning when I log in. Is there a way to have multiple gnome sessions each with a different theme?
[06:00] <owen1> Stroganoff: lartza_ ok. i will. but the idea is to get rid of gnome but still keep X?
[06:01] <Stroganoff> yes
[06:01] <Stroganoff> and the ability to choose
[06:01] <Stroganoff> but it would be more user friendly for you to just edit /etc/gnome/sessions/
[06:01] <lartza_> owen1: That doesn't remove gnome, only metacity with a little more lightweight wm
[06:01] <Stroganoff> whatever.
[06:03] <owen1> lartza_: Stroganoff: btw, i don't have sessions file inside gnome folder.
[06:03] <Stroganoff> i mean /etc/gdm/sessions
[06:03] <Stroganoff> i wrote it 3 times, one of them was wrong :D
[06:03] <bullgard4> What is th purpose of the kernel thread pdflush?
[06:03] <owen1> Stroganoff: i don't have it there either.
[06:04] <Stroganoff> /etc/gdm/sessions/ is a directory, owen1
[06:04] <lartza_> I have modified gnome session to use icewm and it was a pain to get back to metacity because i didnt remeber the file and nobody didnt know how to help
[06:04] <lartza_> Stroganof: owen1: No
[06:04] <Stroganoff> lartza_ then DONT MODIFY the session
[06:04] <owen1> Stroganoff: i don't have this folder..
[06:04] <Stroganoff> BUT create a new one
[06:05] <lartza_> It's not the folder
[06:05] <unop__> lartza_, probably was ~/.xinitrc
[06:05] <Stroganoff> yeah it might be /etc/X11/gdm/Session/
[06:05] <unop__> lartza_, do you use the GDM ?
[06:05] <lartza_> unop_ it was session
[06:05] <lartza_> unop_ and already fixed
[06:06] <lartza_> Stroganoff: No it should be on home dir
[06:06] <unop__> lartza_, i was going to say, you could use the GDM to pick and set the default session
[06:06] <owen1> Stroganoff: no gdm folder there.
[06:06] <lartza_> its in home dir, but ill search what dir
[06:07] <Stroganoff> owen1, i hope you have bookmarked this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession?highlight=%28Session%29
[06:07] <owen1> i thought that ubuntu-gnome=debian...was i totaly wrong?
[06:08] <Stroganoff> no you were almost right ^^
[06:08] <owen1> Stroganoff: bookmarked
[06:08] <howdyho> In menu where I get to pick the sessions in the beginning when I log in. Is there a way to have multiple gnome sessions each with a different theme?
[06:08] <lartza_> here ~/.gnome2/session
[06:08] <lartza_> i used that
[06:09] <unop__> howdyho, sure -- you can use GDM to startup on different displays or have GDM nested in another display via XNest
[06:10] <owen1> lartza_: i don't have session folder there.
[06:10] <AdemoS> Getting Evince crashes in Ubuntu 7.10 64 bit. Here's the log: http://pastebin.ca/949961
[06:10] <lartza_> owen1: It should be session file
[06:11] <owen1> lartza_: no session file there.
[06:11] <lartza_> owen1: Then I don't know, not the biggest ubuntu geek around here
[06:12] <Stroganoff> howdyho, have you looked into System->Preferences->More Preferences->Sessions
[06:12] <owen1> lartza_: np. thanks.
[06:12] <howdyho> unop_: I'm sorry I have no idea what that means.. I just started using Linux last night
[06:13] <howdyho> stroganoff: I'm there now.. Nothing that looks useful =/
[06:14] <Stroganoff> owen1, there it is (maybe): /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:14] <unop__> howdyho, this is what i mean - http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/uploads/2007-08-02-Xnest2.png
[06:14] <unop__> howdyho, another - http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/uploads/2007-08-09-Xephyr.png
[06:14] <AdemoS> nevermind, figured it out
[06:14] <owen1> Stroganoff: yes.
[06:15] <owen1> Stroganoff: i have gnome.desktog file inside.
[06:15] <Stroganoff> create a new gaming.desktop file
[06:15] <howdyho> That's not what I meant.. But I'll be playing around with those later
[06:15] <Nergar> hello
[06:15] <owen1> Stroganoff: before i start. is it risky?
[06:15] <howdyho> What I meant was: Right at the beginning.. when I first log in.. How can I have multiple options for different gnome themes
[06:16] <Stroganoff> no, owen1
[06:16] <Stroganoff> just dont delete your gnome.desktop
[06:16] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok. 1 sec
[06:16] <howdyho> Just like how I can choose between gnome and enlightenment
[06:16] <howdyho> But GnomeX and GnomeY or something
[06:16] <Stroganoff> owen1, http://pastebin.se/193876
[06:16] <Stroganoff> howdyho, the same for you
[06:17] <Byron54> Hi, i just installed ubuntu 64bit for the 1st time, but the ubuntu loading screen doesnt show up when ubuntu is booting up
[06:17] <Stroganoff> create a new file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:17] <jmdc> I am having problems importing the gedit module in python. all of the gedit plugins work, and they all import gedit, but if I start a python shell and do import gedit I get module not found errors
[06:17] <Nergar> i was trying to install skype(x86) in a x86_64 system following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b but now when i boot GDM fails to start :'(
[06:17] <owen1> Stroganoff: done. what's next?
[06:17] <Stroganoff> howdyho http://pastebin.se/193876 thats the basic structure of a sessions file. instead of xterm you want "enlightment" or "enlightment-session" or something
[06:18] <Byron54> ubuntu is booting fine, but instead of that loading screen (with the orange progress bar) the screen goes blank
[06:18] <Stroganoff> owen1, if you have created a valid new .deskop file, just logout into GDM and choose it
[06:18] <Stroganoff> then from xterm, fire up flightgear
[06:18] <jimmywww> i need some help will someone please help
[06:18] <jimmywww> me
[06:18] <Stroganoff> !anyone
[06:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:19] <jimmywww> okay
[06:19] <howdyho> so if I put Gnome in there.. It'll be a completely different Gnome than the one I'm using now?
[06:19] <owen1> Stroganoff:  invoke-rc.d gdm stop ?
[06:19] <Stroganoff> no owen1
[06:19] <jimmywww> i have just got given a x-sersis 220
[06:19] <jimmywww> and i would like to install xubuntu on it
[06:19] <Stroganoff> owen1, are you in gnome? if yes: just log out
[06:19] <jimmywww> i have the cd
[06:20] <jimmywww> but i cant get
[06:20] <Stroganoff> then you are at the graphical login prompt where you can choose ur new session
[06:20] <jimmywww> it to do anything
[06:20] <owen1> Stroganoff: can i do it from the command line?
[06:20] <jimmywww> but go thru the bios
[06:20] <jimmywww> can someone help
[06:20] <Stroganoff> jimmywww, xseries 220?
[06:20] <jimmywww> yep
[06:21] <Stroganoff> owen1: invoke-rc.d gdm start
[06:21] <Stroganoff> owen1: then ctrl+alt+F7
[06:21] <Stroganoff> then choose session
[06:21] <jimmywww> was used as a server i think before i got it
[06:21] <owen1> Stroganoff: after i log out. i will not be in the irc anymore so i need to understand what to do...
[06:21] <Byron54> hmmm just looked on the forum, looks like its my video card (Nvidia 8600GTS) and there are apparently no fixes
[06:21] <Nergar> anyone?
[06:21] <Arthialas> Hello, can anyone help me with network problems?
[06:22] <Stroganoff> owen1 i won't explain to you a dozen times
[06:22] <jimmywww> so what does anyone recommend
[06:22] <Stroganoff> at your login screen you can choose between "GNOME" and "GAMING"
[06:22] <Stroganoff> just open your eyes and dont **** ur *****
[06:22] <jimmywww> i have the computer right next to me and the live cd is in the drive
[06:22] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok. let me right all the stuff u wrote.
[06:22] <Stroganoff> jimmywww WHAT is your problem?
[06:22] <Stroganoff> owen1 just start gdm
[06:23] <Stroganoff> nothing will break
[06:23] <olie> Hi all. From sound juicer, I cannot extract to mp3. After editing the sound profiles and enabling the mp3 profile, I can not select it!!! Any idea? Thx.
[06:23] <Stroganoff> you can come back here if you just dont get it
[06:23] <jimmywww> stroganoff, i cant get it to boot into the live cd
[06:23] <pat6star> Arthiala: what's your problem?
[06:23] <Arthialas> I can't get system to connect to the wireless network, can anyone help?
[06:23] <pat6star> Arthialas: what's your problem?
[06:23] <Stroganoff> jimmywww, use the alternate cd instead
[06:23] <Stroganoff> !alternate
[06:23] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[06:23] <jimmywww> or any cd
[06:23] <olie> I have the impression something is broken in the sound profiles' system!
[06:23] <howdyho> Stroganoff: I can't write anything to /usr/share/xsessions
[06:24] <mkquist> jimmywww: have u set ur bios to boot from cd first?
[06:24] <jimmywww> yes
[06:24] <howdyho> Or copy for that matter
[06:24] <Stroganoff> jimmywww, go into the bios setup and change boot priority
[06:24] <pat6star> Arthialas: are you using wep, wpa wpa2?
[06:24] <jimmywww> i have done that
[06:24] <mike__> is there a defult fire wall in ubuntu ?
[06:24] <mkquist> jimmywww: and it still wont boot to any disc, even ones you know work?
[06:24] <mkquist> jim
[06:24] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok. i am scared but i guess i have no choice..
[06:24] <Byron54> anybody here had problems with Nvidia 8600GTS card?
[06:25] <jimmywww> mkquist, i am unsure but i think thats the case, this live cd has worked for me before
[06:25] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok.  1 sec
[06:25] <pat6star> Byron54: besides the price?
[06:25] <Byron54> pat6star:  :) mine was cheap
[06:25] <Stroganoff> owen1
[06:25] <Stroganoff> wait
[06:25] <mkquist> jimmywww: and you have tried other discs that have worked?
[06:25] <Stroganoff> if it breaks, hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:25] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok
[06:25] <Stroganoff> you will be back at login
[06:25] <owen1> ok
[06:25] <Byron54> pat6star: but my boot splash screen doesnt show up
[06:25] <Arthialas> nope, it's just a plain wireless
[06:25] <pat6star> Byron54: lol, mine wasn't, but no...I don't have any problems with it...ubuntu detected mine and worked right out of the box
[06:26] <jimmywww> mkquist, no other cd works
[06:26] <sFEARs> how do i change the color of the screen that shows while booting between the login window & the desktop
[06:26] <pat6star> Arthialas: what is the result of typing ifconfig?
[06:26] <tieTYT2> how can i redirect to a file that is named the current date every time i use it?
[06:26] <Byron54> pat6star: everything else works fine just my screen goes into standby while ubuntu is loading
[06:26] <mkquist> jimmywww: id try to burn the live cd again.  Maybe it was 'marginal' and now it just fails.  That's the only thing I can think of...
[06:27] <Stroganoff> sFEARs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29
[06:27] <phobos_anomaly> SEND DCC _HELLO_HELLO_HELLO_
[06:27] <mkquist> jimmywww: i know people say it doesnt matter, but burn the new one slow...
[06:27] <Arthialas> actually i'm new to linux, what are the normal procedures?
[06:27] <sFEARs> thanks
[06:27] <mike__> is there a defult fire wall in ubuntu ?
[06:27] <mkquist> jimmywww: what kinda media do you use?  I know I buy the cheap stuff and usually it works, but...
[06:28] <mkquist> mike__: yes, its built in.. called iptables
[06:28] <jimmywww> mkquist, i have 3 copys of the live cd and 1 has been burned really slow it doesn't work either
[06:28] <pat6star> Byron54: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to see if it auto-detects the right settings?
[06:28] <mkquist> mike__: usually u dont have to  mess with it, but if you want a gui frontedn for it, install firestarter
[06:28] <mike__> well i got my modem set for DMZ mode id like to forward a port in ububnt ...
[06:29] <jmdc> tieTYT2: you can do something like this: echo foo > `date FORMAT`
[06:29] <sFEARs> Stroganoff, i already have the usplash configured.. then right before the desktop loads after the usplash & login window it splashes a screen for about 5 seconds in the original ubuntu yellow/orange. curious about that one
[06:29] <jmdc> see man date
[06:29] <Stroganoff> sFEARs sorry that was the wrong one
[06:29] <Byron54> pat6star: no i will try that now
[06:29] <jimmywww> mkquist, i think the problem might be the computer and getting it to boot of the cd
[06:29] <mkquist> jimmywww: maybe time for a new download then.  have u checked the midsums?
[06:29] <mkquist> jimmywww: could be, but if others work...  I'd try that first before giving up
[06:29] <mike__> thanks mkquist :p
[06:30] <mkquist> m
[06:30] <sFEARs> duh... nevermind, i found it
[06:30] <mkquist> mike__: np
[06:30] <Stroganoff> sFEARs, you have to edit the gnome session for that
[06:30] <Stroganoff> not sure
[06:30] <pat6star> Arthialas: what program are you using for wireless network connections? can you connect the computer you are having wireless problesm with via a cable?
[06:30] <jimmywww> mkquist, others dont work
[06:30] <owen1> Stroganoff: i typed invoke-rc.d gdm start    and it say "starting gnome display manager..."
[06:30] <Byron54> pat6star: No X server known for your video hardware
[06:30] <mkquist> jimmywww: oh, well, not sure then, sorry, I'm outa ideas
[06:30] <Stroganoff> owen1, press ctrl+alt+f7
[06:31] <Stroganoff> goddamnit
[06:31] <mkquist> jimmywww: maybe try a new cd/dvd drive?
[06:31] <Stroganoff> !behave | Stroganoff
[06:31] <howdyho> Hey Stroganoff
[06:31] <Byron54> what does that mean? wrong drivers? im using the nvida-glx-new
[06:31] <howdyho> Just one minute of your time
[06:31] <jimmywww> mkquist, that wont be possible
[06:31] <mkquist> jimmywww: or first check ur cables, sometimes they can be a prob, make sure ur jumpers are correct too
[06:31] <tux97> what about pressing a key to do a one time boot process?
[06:31] <jimmywww> okay
[06:31] <mkquist> jimmywww: check the basics first
[06:31] <jimmywww> doing that
[06:31] <mkquist> jimmywww: g/l
[06:32] <lartza_> does gpl offer anyone right to modify the program?
[06:32] <Stroganoff> loads
[06:32] <mike__> are there applications that i can use on ubuntu that will enable me to convert an Avi file to DVD ?
[06:32] <Arthialas> it's a default network tools in ubuntustudio, i think it is called "NetworkTools"? I can try a cable connection, would that help?
[06:32] <owen1> Stroganoff: nothing (visual) happened.
[06:32] <howdyho> Oh shit you guys I erased everything in my gnome.desktop file by mistake
[06:33] <lartza_> howdyho: dont save it?
[06:33] <Stroganoff> owen1, switch to all your F keys, somewhere is the GDM login prompt
[06:33] <lartza_> use undo
[06:33] <mario> hola, alguien habla castellano?
[06:33] <Stroganoff> i dont use a login manager like GDM so..
[06:33] <a> 大家好阿
[06:33] <tieTYT2> how can i redirect to a file that is named the current date every time i use it?
[06:34] <howdyho> No no.. I played around with it 10 mins ago
[06:34] <lartza_> mario: This is an english channel
[06:34] <howdyho> Now I opened it and it's blank
[06:34] <owen1> Stroganoff: not sure if i understand what u mean. do u want me to try ctrl+alt+F1...F12 ?
[06:34] <mario> buenas noches, quisiera saber si alguno de ustedes habla castelllano
[06:35] <Stroganoff> howdyho how have you managed that
[06:35] <Stroganoff> howdyho it dazzles me
[06:35] <howdyho> I have no idea
[06:35] <howdyho> I opened it up in notepad and it was gone
[06:35] <jimmywww> mkquist, cables fine
[06:35] <howdyho> or whatever the ubuntu equivelant is
[06:35] <mario> ok, gracias
[06:35] <howdyho> gedit
[06:36] <Stroganoff> yeah right
[06:36] <a> hi
[06:36] <Stroganoff> howdyho http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60261/
[06:36] <Stroganoff> there you go
[06:36] <mike__> are there applications that i can use on ubuntu that will enable me to convert an Avi file to DVD ?
[06:36] <owen1> Stroganoff: can u elaborate about the last message?
[06:36] <a> anybody know when hardy beta will be launch
[06:36] <howdyho> thnx
[06:37] <Stroganoff> owen1, press ctrl+alt+f1 then ....f2 ...f3 until you see your graphical gdm login screen
[06:37] <owen1> ok
[06:37] <Stroganoff> otherwise reboot, then you WILL see that login screen for sure
[06:37] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok
[06:38] <Stroganoff> howdyho, did you use sudo to open that file?
[06:38] <howdyho> yes *embarrassed*
[06:38] <Stroganoff> thats ok
[06:38] <Stroganoff> i just dont get how you deleted it
[06:38] <howdyho> Neither do I
[06:38] <Stroganoff> dont use "notepad"
[06:38] <Stroganoff> use "nano" instead in a terminal window
[06:38] <MockY> mousepad
[06:39] <howdyho> alright
[06:39] <howdyho> Just to clear things up
[06:39] <owen1_> Stroganoff: i see black screen, no GUI...thanks god i use irssi. what's next?
[06:39] <howdyho> so if I make a file called gnome2.desktop.. with the Name Gnome2
[06:39] <Stroganoff> owen1_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:39] <howdyho> If I use GDM to log in to that.. it'll be a completely different session?
[06:40] <Stroganoff> yes, howdyho
[06:40] <howdyho> Awesome.
[06:40] <howdyho> Thanx.. I'm off to try it out
[06:40] <owen1_> Stroganoff: sure, but please explain what's going on, i am scared.
[06:41] <Stroganoff> restarting gdm should bring up the login screen at ctrl+alt+f7
[06:41] <owen1_> Stroganoff: what is gdm?
[06:41] <unop__> the display manager
[06:41] <Zeron> Gnome Display Manager
[06:41] <Stroganoff> gdm manages login and X (graphical core)
[06:42] <owen1_> Stroganoff: ok. i'll try restart
[06:42] <unop__> Stroganoff, I should say it doesnt necessarily manage the xserver tho because the xserver is independant of the display manager
[06:42] <Stroganoff> thats right unop__
[06:42] <Stroganoff> thx for ur help ;)
[06:43] <howdyho> Strog my man
[06:43] <jimmywww> so can anyone help me
[06:43] <howdyho> Gnome works fine (thank god)
[06:43] <owen1_> exit
[06:43] <howdyho> But Gnome and Gnome2 are exact copies of one another
[06:44] <howdyho> change one thing in one and the same change is reflected in the other
[06:44] <Stroganoff> you have to edit the the gnome2.desktop file
[06:44] <howdyho> What do I have to edit in it?
[06:44] <unop__> jimmywww, whats up?
[06:44] <Stroganoff> to manage different settings is not so easy ^^
[06:45] <howdyho> I changed the name in the file.. same thing
[06:45] <Stroganoff> you have to invoke "gnome-session" with customized environment variables
[06:45] <howdyho> I don't need different settings.. just different themes
[06:45] <Stroganoff> you have to look tnto that
[06:45] <howdyho> Any clues on where to start looking?
[06:46] <jimmywww> unop__,today i have been give an x-series 220, and i would like to install xubuntu or ubuntu on it, but i cant get it to boot to cd i have set the bios to boot off cd first
[06:46] <tarkus> omg guys!
[06:46] <Nergar> i was trying to install skype(x86) in a x86_64 system following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b but now when i boot GDM fails to start :'(
[06:46] <tarkus> im gonna poop
[06:46] <tarkus> im gonna poop
[06:46] <unop__> howdyho, you could install xnest and use gdmxnest to startup GDM within your current session
[06:46] <jimmywww> when it boots it seems to ignore there is a cd in the drive
[06:46] <Nergar> gdm: error while loading shared libraries
[06:47]  * tarkus poops all over the kitchen and smothers it all into a nice little bun sandwich.
[06:47] <Nergar> wrong ELF class
[06:47] <unop__> jimmywww, did you burn that CD? was it burnt properly?
[06:47] <jimmywww> yes
[06:47] <howdyho> But would it allow different themes for different gnome sessions?\
[06:47] <jimmywww> cd is burnt correctly has been used before
[06:47] <tux97> jimmyww try wipeing off the cd and see if u can press the one time boot key
[06:47] <jimmywww> what is that
[06:48] <tux97> varies on puters mine on my dell 1521 is f12
[06:48] <unop__> jimmywww, have you tried booting some other minimal linux distro?
[06:49] <tux97> jimmyww how fast is your puter?
[06:49] <jimmywww> unop__, no but im almost cetain thats not the problem as before i got the computer it was used in a school as a serve
[06:49] <jimmywww> not sure
[06:49] <jimmywww> about server
[06:50] <jimmywww> it got wiped before i got it
[06:51] <tacosalad> is there an ubuntu program equal to access?
[06:51] <jimmywww> the computer say on "server" and in another spot "x-series 220"
[06:51] <owen1> strongarm: ok. i am back and now the gui is back. what's next?
[06:51] <unop__> jimmywww, well, you could try -- there are some tiny boot cds out there -- that'll rule out the CD and perhaps find fault with the drive, it's probable that the drive could be misbehaving
[06:51] <ompaul> !enter | jimmywww
[06:51] <ubotu> jimmywww: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:51] <ompaul> !bootoptions | jimmywww
[06:51] <ubotu> jimmywww: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:51] <jimmywww> okay
[06:52] <unop__> !minimal
[06:52] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:52] <unop__> jimmywww, ^^ about 50MB (when i last checked)
[06:52] <unop__> sorry, 10 mb :)
[06:52] <Stroganoff> owen1, on the edge of the login screen should be the sessions menu
[06:52] <Stroganoff> there you can choose your gaming session
[06:53] <owen1> so i neet to log out again, choose the gaming session and fire the game from command line?
[06:54] <Stroganoff> yes
[06:54] <owen1> Stroganoff: cool. let me try
[06:55] <Gary_inNYC> should i be worried that my filesystem is 9.9% non-contiguous?
[06:57] <Avlanche> Can anyone help me with the 041e:4055 (web cam) Linux Drivers
[06:57] <gramm> is there a way the motu's can update gnuplot in the repos?
[06:58] <unop__> gramm, sure, it's their job, is it not? :)
[06:58] <Stroganoff> gramm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[06:58] <Napoleon98> ok i have a fun retarded question... im using a howto guide to let me use vbox and connect to my wireless card.. it says to use parprouted, and when I use that command line it switches to a new command prompt... how do I use it since it seems to basically be a word editor? or more accurately how would i save what im typing in it?
[06:58] <unop__> gramm, well, it depends on what they can do in terms of modifying source to change functionality --- but sure, they sometimes do
[06:59] <Gary_inNYC> it seems the more i use my computer, slowly but surely that non-contiguous %age increases.  When should I get concerned?  Should I be?
[06:59] <Stroganoff> Gary_inNYC: sudo apt-get install defrag
[06:59] <jimmywww> mimmal cd does not work either
[06:59] <jimmywww> but i forgot to say
[07:00] <jimmywww> i goess thru all this stuff the gets stuck
[07:00] <jimmywww> at a screen
[07:00] <unop__> jimmywww, can you describe the screen?
[07:00] <jimmywww> where, it is illustrating a floppy disk going it
[07:00] <Gary_inNYC> im using ext3, would that defrag utility work?
[07:00] <tarkus> let me know what you guys think of this idea for a project. do you think it could gain a respectful base of users? would you join if it was well designed and had potential?
[07:00] <Stroganoff> yes
[07:00] <tarkus> a collaboration system for members to share ideas and concepts for respective areas. there would be discussion and rating systems so the concepts discussed would mature quickly. this would be similar to ted.com but rather creating collective notions as a community.
[07:01] <Stroganoff> Gary_inNYC, yes
[07:01] <tarkus> would be a great way to brainstorm new ideas for opensource, design, and of course many others.
[07:01] <tarkus> developers can use this as a tool to give them ideas that the users would like to see.
[07:01] <jimmywww> unop__: it also motions toward pressing f1
[07:01] <howdyho> Is there a way to install Gnome twice?
[07:02] <howdyho> So that the first installation is completely unrelated to the second
[07:02] <unop__> jimmywww, i dont think thats anything i've seen on a linux CD booting --
[07:02] <tarkus> what do you guys think of that project idea? ^^
[07:02] <jimmywww> i havent got the live cd to boot
[07:02] <jimmywww> thats the problem
[07:02] <unop__> jimmywww, do you reckon it's one of the system's screens then, a BIOS or utility screen?
[07:03] <gramm> unop__: thanks
[07:03] <howdyho> tarkus: Everyone has an idea.. How many people are actually going to start working on them though?
[07:03] <jimmywww> i dont know,
[07:03] <jimmywww> i you give me five mins i will take a photo
[07:03] <unop__> jimmywww, hmm, have a windows CD you can try out?
[07:03] <Stroganoff> tarkus, such project do exist
[07:03] <Stroganoff> kind of
[07:03] <jimmywww> no
[07:03] <Gary_inNYC> wow, that defrag utility is just a delete and rewrite task... that'll take forever heh
[07:03] <unop__> jimmywww, ok, take a photo then
[07:04] <tarkus> howdyho, very, very few. thats the point of this site, because people have ideas but leave them since they wouldnt get to doing it, so why not share it so others might if they know about it?
[07:04] <gramm> howdyho: anybody with enough tine and interest to take up the crusade
[07:04] <unop__> Gary_inNYC, I reckon it only rewrites files that are fragmented -- so as to not take forever
[07:04] <ompaul> jimmywww, go into the bios and (A) tell it to boot off the CD rom and (B) check what processor and ram is in there and disk drives
[07:04] <Ububegin> shit,I accidently deleted my top panel... what do i do now... :~(
[07:04] <tarkus> howdyho, plus the initial concept tat someones starts, WILL branch out into a more mature and better presented idea.
[07:05] <Stroganoff> Ububegin: Alt+F2 -> gnome-panel
[07:05] <Gary_inNYC> i thought in general I'm not supposed to worry about file fragmentation in linux?
[07:05] <tarkus> howdyho, for any develper to adopt into his software as a feature or something new.
[07:05] <howdyho> Well it does sound like something that'll work if implemented right
[07:05] <hanasaki> what is a good pda/phone that runs ubuntu
[07:05] <jimmywww> ompaul,  will do that as well
[07:05] <Stroganoff> Gary_inNYC, contagiousy isn't fragmentation
[07:05] <Gary_inNYC> ic
[07:06] <Gary_inNYC> so is there any real benefit of using such a tool?
[07:06] <howdyho> You just gotta work on making it appealing to the developers and not people who think it's a place to ask for programming favors
[07:06] <unop__> Gary_inNYC, that's true -- it's a trivial worry -- the filesystems do a good job of keeping files well organised-- but not to perfection, so sometimes defragmentation might be needed (but i cant think of any scenarios)
[07:06] <Stroganoff> Gary_inNYC i would say so
[07:06] <Ububegin> Stroganoff : I get this *I've detected a panel already running,and will now exit.*
[07:06] <tarkus> howdyho, we need to be convinced that it would generate a decent base of contributors, but once we are. we're commited for the long haul to make it work well.
[07:07] <Stroganoff> Ububegin: Alt+F2 -> xterm -> killall gnome-panel
[07:07] <unop__> Ububegin, ALT+F2 - killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel
[07:07] <Stroganoff> tarkus, just join existing projects
[07:08] <unop__> tarkus, sounds like microsoft :)
[07:08] <Stroganoff> like svn
[07:08] <xjkx> i did apt-get remove gnome* on my usb-ubuntu and it doesnt boot anymore :s what did i remove in that big list that messed up ?
[07:09] <tarkus> unop__, despite your hatred, certain things about microsoft are good..
[07:09] <unop__> xjkx, errm, it should boot up -- thought you might not get a graphical display
[07:09] <Avlanche> Can anyone help me with the 041e:4055 (web cam) Linux Drivers
[07:09] <unop__> tarkus, you infer wrong, i dont hate microsoft -- and by that implication, your project is a good idea :)
[07:09] <tarkus> unop__, and what im thinking doesnt steel people money or constrain them in proprietary and commercial cages.
[07:09] <Stroganoff> tarkus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collaborative_software
[07:09] <xjkx> unop__, yea :/ ubuntu-desktop was removed in that list, is it bad ?
[07:09] <owen1> Stroganoff: it worked but most of the keys on the keyboard didn't work...
[07:10] <owen1> Stroganoff: so i couldn't play it.
[07:10] <Ububegin> Stroganoff : no use, even after killall, i still get the same msg..when i do this *Alt+F2 -> gnome-panel*
[07:10] <Stroganoff> thats odd
[07:10] <unop__> xjkx, well, no -- ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that pulls in all the other gnome packages -- it can be safely removed to no ill-effect
[07:10] <Stroganoff> Ububegin: xterm -> ps -all
[07:11] <Ububegin> Stroganoff : will restarting ubuntu work...
[07:11] <unop__> xjkx, what worries me is that by removing all gnome* packages, you might have rendered your system without a graphical display
[07:11] <xjkx> unop__, no, i have fluxbox
[07:11] <unop__> xjkx, do you get to a console/virtual terminal at all?
[07:11] <xjkx> no
[07:11] <tarkus> Stroganoff, yeah, these are all methods of working a "current" project. and the ideas would be tied to it, either improving it or adding something it lacks..
[07:11] <xjkx> it says there is nothing to load on usb
[07:11] <Stroganoff> xjkx, just reinstall gnome-desktop
[07:11] <Stroganoff> (haven't read everything)
[07:12] <xjkx> Stroganoff, hard, if usb-flashdriver doesnt boot
[07:12] <jimmywww> unop__: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2366/img0928at2.jpg
[07:12] <xjkx> hehe
[07:12] <Ububegin> Stroganoff: when am i supposed to do now :?
[07:12] <Nergar> i was trying to install skype(x86) in a x86_64 system following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b but now when i boot GDM fails to start :'(
[07:12] <tarkus> Stroganoff, but im thinking of something to convey general ideas.
[07:12] <Nergar> wrong ELF class
[07:12] <Ububegin> what i mean
[07:12] <Stroganoff> !paste | Ububegin
[07:12] <ubotu> Ububegin: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[07:12] <xjkx> unop__, you know when you try to turn on a machine without HD ? and there is a message printed out that there is nothing to load, its like that the message i get
[07:13] <Stroganoff> tarkus, i know that
[07:13] <owen1> Stroganoff: maybe it's because i have a bluetooth keyboard?
[07:13] <xjkx> might have removed something in mbr of this - crazy/random guess-
[07:13] <unop__> jimmywww, yea, does look like one of the systems utility screens -- it's probably waiting for you to insert a boot floppy from the looks of it -- time to revisit the BIOS and see what else can be changed
[07:14] <Stroganoff> owen1, you have xterm in the gaming session, right?
[07:14] <jimmywww> http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2366/img0928at2.jpg is a picture of that thing i was trying to discribe if a let the computer to run
[07:14] <owen1> Stroganoff: don't know what xterm is.
[07:14] <xjkx> does anybody know if qemu can load a bootable usb-flashdriver ? i could test more here, without rebooting over and over :p
[07:14] <jimmywww> unop__: so what do you want me to do
[07:15] <owen1> Stroganoff: where is the location of this file again?
[07:15] <jimmywww> i shall start up the computer and enter bios
[07:15] <Stroganoff> go to you gaming session and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:15] <unop__> jimmywww, well, i'd check the BIOS again -- there might be other options that need setting
[07:15] <unop__> jimmywww, yes
[07:15] <Stroganoff> owen: /usr/share/xsessions/
[07:15] <owen1> Stroganoff: ok. 1 sec
[07:15] <tarkus> Stroganoff, k. do you think it might work well?
[07:15] <jimmywww> unop__: what should i be looking for
[07:16] <Stroganoff> tarkus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming#Software
[07:16] <unop__> jimmywww, i can't be specific -- but something along the lines of -- first boot device - or - {get rid of annoying screen wanting me to insert floppy drive} :)
[07:17] <Stroganoff> owen1
[07:17] <jimmywww> yep
[07:17] <Stroganoff> i meant log out to your gaming session
[07:17] <Stroganoff> not edit the file
[07:17] <unop__> jimmywww, what do the various function keys do ?? have you tried pressing them ?
[07:17] <unop__> jimmywww, @ that screen
[07:18] <owen1> Stroganoff: sure. i am writing down the stuff u wrote.
[07:18] <hunteke> so, I see http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/94/ (suspend, #1 idea), and have read some of the comments, such as "this is extremely difficult for many factors".  Is there any momentum on this front, despite the many factors?
[07:18] <owen1> Stroganoff: after i run this command, try play the game?
[07:18] <Stroganoff> no, logout again
[07:19] <owen1> Stroganoff: and..
[07:19] <Stroganoff> or better ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:19] <Stroganoff> login and play
[07:19] <Stroganoff> but i have no high hopes
[07:19] <owen1> ok
[07:19] <Stroganoff> you should start a topic in the forums about your keyboard and your minmal gdm session
[07:19] <jimmywww> unop__, nothing f1 restarts
[07:20] <owen1> Stroganoff: should i try cord keyboard?
[07:20] <Stroganoff> if all fails, yes
[07:20] <Stroganoff> i gotta go now
[07:20] <owen1> Stroganoff: thanks!
[07:20] <Stroganoff> np ;)
[07:20] <tarkus> Stroganoff, molecularthinking might be the closest thing to it, but its still very far away form it.
[07:20] <unop__> jimmywww, you could refer to the products manual which might be available on the manufacturers website
[07:20] <jimmywww> i will try
[07:21] <Stroganoff> tarkus: no reason to start from scratch
[07:21] <chris062689> Hola.
[07:21] <jimmywww> i got some more photos of it
[07:21] <jimmywww> uploading now
[07:22] <Stroganoff> ok its not OSS tarkus
[07:22] <tarkus> Stroganoff, so you're saying to work with whoever is behind molecularthinking and transform it into something else (if they aprove)
[07:22] <Stroganoff> so you may have to start from scratch
[07:22] <Stroganoff> cu
[07:22] <glitch> Hello
[07:22] <glitch> I'm new to Ubuntu and have got a question
[07:23] <unop__> glitch, ask :)
[07:23] <xjkx> glitch, ask
[07:23] <kill_me2> I have a question about mounting a ntfs drive in ubuntu
[07:24] <glitch> um, I installed it, without it being connected to the internet and it said it needed to connect to get the updates, so when it was all finished, i connected it, and it said it was up to date
[07:24] <glitch> but it wasn't and i don't understand how to make it update
[07:24] <glitch> i ended up reinstalling while it was connected and then it downloaded like 200 updates
[07:25] <unop__> glitch, i suggest you enable the various repositories and try updating then-- you should see a slew of updates waiting to be installed
[07:25] <glitch> how do you do that?
[07:25] <Hamled> does anybody have an opinion on which non-adobe flash library/plug-in works best? The proprietary one keeps dying randomly on my system (not sure if it would be affected by compiz or not)
[07:25] <unop__> glitch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[07:26] <jimmywww> unop__, http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1230/img0930oj2.jpg
[07:26] <chris062689> So how is everyone tonight?
[07:26] <xjkx> chris062689, quiting
[07:27] <chris062689> I'm quite happy, I was able to shave a 3.4 GB Ubuntu installation down to 2 GB :)
[07:28] <jimmywww> unop__, is that any help
[07:28] <fabouney> Hi
[07:28] <unop__> jimmywww, you seem to have the primary master device set to the CD-Rom -- which means that the only device recognized by the computer is the CD-rom device -- no harddrives, nothing :)
[07:28] <glitch> everything is checked on that.  Would it have done it later by itself?  I'm just confused cause I'm coming from windows, so when something isn't updated, it keeps telling you.
[07:29] <unop__> jimmywww, you should set the primary master to the first HDD -- primary slave to the second HDD -- secondary master to the first CD/DVD drive and secondary slave to the second optical device
[07:29] <jimmywww> unop__ so what should i do
[07:29] <bullgard4> What stands 'pd' for in 'pdflush'?
[07:29] <jimmywww> okay
[07:29] <jimmywww> will this help
[07:29] <unop__> jimmywww, i'm willing to bet it does :)
[07:29] <jimmywww> okay
[07:30] <fabouney> somebody use Flex builder for linux ?
[07:30] <jimmywww> http://www-304.ibm.com/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-41893&brandind=5000008 here is a link to what you ask for b4 i think
[07:30] <unop__> jimmywww, but ensure that the first boot device is the CD-Rom drive -- it might be on another BIOS option screen
[07:30] <godzemo> Anyone have any experience with setting up xmonad to run with gnome?
[07:31] <glitch> it also happened with clamtk, it said it was updated when it didn't update at all... is there a cache file i have to clear to get it to work right?
[07:31] <Icomey> Does anyone have experience getting a US Robotics USR5686E modem to work with Gutsy?
[07:32] <MinusSeven> Is there an easy way to upgrade to Gnome 2.22 in Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[07:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, open synaptic, and click reload, it will show u the packages that are upgradable
[07:32] <bashca> hi there
[07:33] <jhonovich> i am downloading ubuntu for an amd turion 64 and am trying to determine the answer for the type of computer question - would i be a standard or a 64bit AMD for ubuntu's purposes?
[07:34] <MockY> both would work
[07:34] <MockY> but go 64
[07:34] <jhonovich> MockY: thanks, appreciate it
[07:34] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> MinusSeven, u could update to 8.04 or compile gnome by urself
[07:35] <mark[oz]> is there a video player for ubuntu that can handle fast forward without skipping ahead chunks?
[07:35] <MinusSeven> which do you recommend, wait for 8.04 ?
[07:36] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> MinusSeven, probably..
[07:36] <MinusSeven> Just looking for a date it is supposed to be released
[07:37] <glitch> oh wow, so i clicked on reload, then on installed to bring those to the top, all those can be upgraded?  They have a green box by them
[07:37] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> MinusSeven, sometime in April (hopefully)
[07:37] <godzemo> Anyone have any experience with setting up xmonad to run with gnome?
[07:37] <MinusSeven> ok
[07:37] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, green box means it's installed
[07:38] <jimmywww> unop__ can seem to do that
[07:38] <jimmywww> cant see where
[07:38] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, upgradable packages should be shown with a yellow arrow with it
[07:38] <glitch> oh ok.
[07:38] <bashca> hi there
[07:39] <glitch> That helps out a lot
[07:39] <glitch> I was just confused why it would say it was all updated when it wasn't, next time i'll try using synaptic
[07:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, to upgrade whatever is available, just check "mark all upgrades"
[07:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, usually u dont need to use synaptic for just upgrading, the upgrade manager will handle that automatically and gives u a notice
[07:41] <os2mac> yeah about that... mine doesn't
[07:42] <glitch> oh good.
[07:42] <fabouney> i have the same problem, but i not understand the answer, can you help me ?
[07:42] <fabouney> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=657&threadid=1344723&enterthread=y
[07:43] <jimmywww> unop__, any sugestions
[07:43] <lieTa_cuTe_> hai
[07:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> fabouney, that's fedora, and u prably should go to their channel
[07:43] <AndyWxy> blist
[07:43] <fabouney> i have ubuntu ...
[07:43] <glitch> ok thank you [Hardy]TuTUXG for your help! :+)
[07:43] <foxiness> glitch: i like to use aptitude from CLI ,i do not know if synaptic based in it or not
[07:43] <fabouney> gutsy
[07:43] <os2mac> fabouney:  but it sounds like you need to update your Jave Runtime Environment (JRE)
[07:44] <fabouney> ok
[07:44] <glitch> i'm still very new with the CLI, although i got a book on some commands
[07:44] <UltraNav> shouldn't be hardy beta1 released today (according to the release schdule) ?
[07:44] <glitch> i get around with the very basics on that
[07:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> UltraNav, later maybe
[07:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> it will be out when it's ready
[07:45] <glitch> speaking of books, is there any you guys recommend for me to read? I'm new to linux all together, but i'm a+ and net+ certified, after the net+, thats when i got interested in Linux
[07:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, i learned linux all from internet and man pages
[07:46] <UltraNav>  [Hardy]TuTUXG: it will be out when it's ready -- sounds like these fortune cookies to me...
[07:46] <icesword> rhce
[07:46] <foxiness> glitch: its good to learn more and more ,u can read about it on wiki
[07:46] <MinusSeven> glitch, so you got tired of microsoft you mean?
[07:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> UltraNav, but u don't want a incompleted or bugged beta, do u?
[07:46] <glitch> ok cool, thats pretty much what i've been doing.
[07:47] <icesword> glitch, red hat certified engineer exan ,that is a book also a test
[07:47] <glitch> yea, getting very tired of it lol!
[07:47] <icesword> exam
[07:47] <glitch> ok i'll check that one out
[07:47] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ibm has some nice docs for linux
[07:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> all available online
[07:50] <foxiness> glitch: the guy how guide me on my start point me to ( www.tldp.org ) ,there are a lot of pdf file good to read
[07:50] <glitch> ok, I'll check those out too.  There is so much its hard to figure out where to start.  Right now i'm dual booting, but thinking of getting rid of windows all together, just don't know enough to get comfortable yet.  The craziest thing is not needing antivirus, i can't seem to wrap my brain around that.
[07:50] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> UltraNav, and afaik, fedora 9 beta is scheduled out today as well, but it's also been held
[07:51] <bullgard4> On my computer exists the script file /usr/lib/pm-utils/functions. I would like to know what program calls this program. I tried to answer this question: In http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.22.14/ I searched for 'functions' but obtained 4959 estimated hits. How to solve this problem?
[07:52] <glitch> foxiness: i'll check that out and start there, thanks!
[07:53] <CVD-PR> Hey there, Today ubuntu log me out 2 times automatically by his own, any way to know why this i happening?
[07:53] <Gary_inNYC> power failure?
[07:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> glitch, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3399/  it's a good on for starters
[07:56] <CVD-PR> and now the third time in arow!!!
[07:57] <xim> under what definition of "online" is man "online manuals"
[07:58] <xim> it doesnt search them on the internet so i must be misunderstanding the word online
[08:00] <Avlanche> hey guys how come everytime i open TVTime it auto-closes?
[08:01] <Blakstalum_> Is there anyone on here from Baltimore area?
[08:03] <phynix> did you try launching it from the terminal Avalanche
[08:03] <glitch> wow, there's a lot to read, thank you for all your help everyone!!
[08:03] <glitch> bye!!
[08:03] <Blakstalum_> I mean people are just joining and quiting. What's going on?
[08:04] <Avlanche> no i just clicked it under Apps>Sound & Video
[08:04] <phynix> well it sometimes helps me to go to the terminal and type the command and see what comes up
[08:04] <phynix> i am not saying that will help, but its worth a try
[08:04] <Avlanche> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[08:05] <xim> blakstalum theres over 1000 people in here so you gotta expect lots of joins and quits
[08:05] <Blakstalum_> ok, I see! this is for help issues, not socializing.
[08:05] <phynix> i don't see why it can't be
[08:06] <Blakstalum_> neither do I. I think this is great, but not for me. Peace
[08:06] <phynix> you might want to try and past that into google
[08:06] <phynix> and see if anyone has posted a fix
[08:08] <Avlanche> yep doing that now :)
[08:09] <phynix> tvtime is hit and miss with me
[08:10] <CVD-PR> ?
[08:10] <Avlanche> i think the drivers for my Tv Tuner are not installed or working properly but under hardware I see a Video4Linux thingy so thought it was working
[08:10] <phynix> jw what kind of card do you have
[08:10] <Avlanche> Conexant Falcon II
[08:11] <tricaric> Hi! I seem to have a problem with 'svn' on a server with Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[08:11] <tricaric> now I have installed: svn, version 1.3.2 (r19776)
[08:11] <tricaric>    compiled Aug  3 2007, 11:49:37
[08:11] <tricaric> but when I try to use it in a repository, I get: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy '.'; please get a newer Subversion client
[08:11] <OltreIrc`64550> !list
[08:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:12] <tricaric> so... what's the clean way to upgrade svn?
[08:12] <kortopi> Hi all!
[08:13] <phynix> hello kortopi
[08:13] <kortopi> why does the smtpd.conf file doesn't exist on /etc/postfix/sasl?
[08:13] <kortopi> im configuring postfix on ubuntu 7.10
[08:13] <tricaric> on another box I with ubuntu 7.10 I have svn, version 1.4.4 (r25188)
[08:14] <kris_ph> hello.. is this message is significant: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts?
[08:14] <phynix> you might try howtoforge.com kortopi
[08:15] <phynix> i thought i saw a postfix post
[08:15] <kortopi> thanks
[08:15] <Huo> hi all, anybody here have some experiences with truecrypt (version 5)?
[08:15] <phynix> man from what i saw its pretty hard to install right
[08:16] <tux97> i was wondering how do u install themes?
[08:16] <Huo> i have installed just deb package and it wasn't so difficult
[08:16] <phynix> might give it a try
[08:16] <phynix> tux97 well where did you get the theme
[08:16] <phynix> how far have you gotton
[08:16] <tux97> i dont know where to go
[08:17] <tux97> i'm just looking
[08:17] <phynix> gnome-look.org
[08:17] <tux97> ok
[08:17] <tux97> i'm there now phynix so if i see one i like how do i install it
[08:17] <damo22> E: Couldn't find package compiz-config-settings-manager
[08:17] <damo22> how can i fix that
[08:18] <shane__> could anyone here help me with networking Ubuntu
[08:18] <crdlb> !ccsm | damo22
[08:18] <ubotu> damo22: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:18] <crdlb> you spelled it incorrectly
[08:18] <phynix> ok tux97 go to the metacity part
[08:18] <shane__> with windows xp or vista
[08:18] <phynix> find one
[08:18] <kristian_> Hi! Is there anyone who knows how to change the ownership of a folder? I have read some how tos but I can't do it. The folder I want to change the ownership of is "/home/kristian/Cut_Copy-In_Ghost_Colours-MODCD050-2008-EUPHORiC", so I write "chown -R kristian /home/kristian/Cut_Copy-In_Ghost_Colours-MODCD050-2008-EUPHORiC". The terminal doesn't say anything and the owner is stil root. What am i doing wrong?
[08:18] <tux97> metacity?
[08:18] <phynix> tux97 download the file. Go to appearance and click install find the file and click apply. That should do it
[08:19] <shane__> is it hard to network with Ubuntu
[08:19] <zmatt> shane__: not at all
[08:19] <tux97> shane i'm doing it
[08:19] <tux97> lol
[08:19] <phynix> tux97 http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=101&PHPSESSID=cc1bdf4ec66a7383ebe86e1aa9904067
[08:19] <damo22>  kristian_: chown -R  kristian:kristian ....
[08:19] <byrt> yo
[08:19] <shane__> where could i get some info on how to network it all ?
[08:20] <tux97> shane what do u want to do/
[08:20] <byrt> sory, whar make wi-fi ;>
[08:20] <byrt> what*
[08:21] <shane__> i want to access from Ubuntu to my vista box
[08:21] <shane__> and or from my vista box to Ubuntu perferably
[08:21] <phynix> tux97 did you figure it out
[08:21] <kristian_> damo22: Now i've wrote "chown -R kristian:kristian /home/kristian/Cut_Copy-In_Ghost_Colours-MODCD050-2008-EUPHORiC" in the terminal. still nothing happens?
[08:21] <tux97> i'm just lookin at the moment
[08:21] <tux97> shane check into samba
[08:21] <phynix> ok
[08:21] <bullgard4> Auf meinem Computer gibt es die Skriptdatei /usr/lib/pm-utils/functions. Ich möchte herausbekommen, welche Programme dieses Programm aufrufen. Ich habe versucht, diese Frage mittels http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.22.14/ zu beantworten. Ich suchte dort nach 'functions' aber erhielt > 4959 wahrscheinliche Treffer. Wie löst man dieses Problem?
[08:21] <Gan> iam just for you
[08:21] <tux97> hold on let me get u my link i used shane
[08:22] <zetheroo> is there a way to unpack a .dmg file in linux?
[08:22] <shane__> is that  a program
[08:22] <shane__> thanks
[08:22] <Gan> Not is that
[08:22] <phynix> zetheroo if you figure that out tell me
[08:22] <tux97> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 shane how to for samba
[08:23] <tux97> phynix whats your theme?
[08:23] <ace_ace121> i cant login to this applet : http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletProd.jnlp .. i have sun java web start 6 installed.
[08:23] <ryancr> in rhythmbox is it possible to share a playlist instead of the whole music library?
[08:24] <phynix> hope this helps tux97 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/SlicknesS?content=71993
[08:25] <tux97> ok how do i d/l it
[08:25] <phynix> click on the link at the bottom
[08:25] <kristian_> repost: damo22: Now i've wrote "chown -R kristian:kristian /home/kristian/Cut_Copy-In_Ghost_Colours-MODCD050-2008-EUPHORiC" in the terminal.  still nothing happens?
[08:25] <zetheroo> phynix: seems like qemu is the way to go
[08:26] <brianlight> could someone test my ampache server and tell me if my streams are droping out of playing good
[08:26] <phynix> zetheroo thanks
[08:26] <phynix> tux97 work?
[08:27] <brianlight> http://amp.homelinux.com/Ampache
[08:27] <tux97> phynix i'm lookiing for the file to d/l
[08:27] <kortopi> does smtpd.conf file exist? or i'll just have to create it my own. im following the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/postfix.html for postfix configuration
[08:27] <phynix> there should be three links at the end of the first post
[08:28] <tux97> ok then the first link correct phynix
[08:28] <phynix> yes tux97
[08:28] <chris062689> Does anyone know of a simple, lightweight web server with PHP that I can easily install / remove?
[08:28] <kortopi> I also installed the smtpd
[08:28] <ace_ace121> it gives a java.net.MalformedURL Exception
[08:28] <tux97> ok i saved it now what
[08:29] <phynix> go to appearance
[08:29] <phynix> and click the install button
[08:29] <phynix> find the file you downloaded
[08:30] <brianlight> chris just search lightweight web server in synaptic
[08:30] <phynix> tux97 did that work?
[08:30] <tux97> ok i did that now how come i can't see nothing in firefox?
[08:30] <tux97> yes
[08:31] <phynix> no you can pick from the list right
[08:31] <phynix> now*
[08:31] <phynix> you might not like it cause some apps are weird colors
[08:31] <roman_> hi! why is there empty /etc/apache2/httpd.conf????
[08:32] <tux97> i like it phynix but hwo come i can't see no pages in firefox?
[08:32] <huthido> hi everybody
[08:32] <phynix> tux97 i don't know why. I wish I could see it so I could guess
[08:32] <phynix> mine didn't have that problem
[08:33] <tux97> ok i closed it and reopened it and it worked
[08:33] <tux97> so make sure themes are metacity?
[08:33] <phynix> you know i always get them mixed up
[08:33] <phynix> gtk i think is the right one
[08:34] <phynix> i think metacity is the window borders
[08:34] <tux97> ok
[08:34] <phynix> i always spend a little while guessing
[08:34] <phynix> lol
[08:35] <roman_> lamers
[08:35] <nanobug> hello everyone
[08:35] <nanobug> :)
[08:36] <phynix> hello nanobug
[08:36] <nanobug> hi phynix, how are you this morning?
[08:37] <olie> Hi all. How can I move a panel from the left to the top? (I cant drag and drop it because there is no free space on the panel!)
[08:37] <huthido> Can someone help me about Server of Linux
[08:37] <nanobug> unless i'm assuming things and you're across the pond i should say
[08:37] <phynix> tired nanobug and ready for some sleep
[08:37] <nanobug> :i hear ya
[08:37] <roman_> what a lamers channel!
[08:37] <phynix> haha
[08:37] <phynix> well we are nerds
[08:37] <nanobug> i was in bed but waking up every hour so i said to hell with it and grabbed some cold pizza
[08:37] <zmatt> phynix: speak for yourself buddy
[08:38] <tux97> yep phynix i'm proud of it lol is there a tux theme u know about phynix?
[08:38] <phynix> zmatt i am sorry i am a nerd
[08:38] <phynix> tux97 be more specific
[08:38] <nanobug> im a nerd as well
[08:38] <zmatt> phynix: nothing to be sorry about
[08:38] <nanobug> not like pocket protector or world of warcraft style but a nerd anyway
[08:38] <nanobug> :)
[08:38] <tux97> phnix tux theme for ubuntu
[08:38] <phynix> yup
[08:38] <phynix> haven't herd of a tux theme
[08:39] <phynix> buthido what kind of server
[08:39] <nanobug> there are lots of tux wallpapers on deviantart and gnome-look
[08:39] <nanobug> i don't know of any 'themes' per say but you should be able to find something you like and then a gtk/kde theme to go with it
[08:40] <nanobug> if all else fails, you can customize the colors on clearlooks to match
[08:40] <kindofabuzz> is checking the "use" box for nvidia restricted driver the same as installing the nvidia driver say from Envy?
[08:41] <nanobug> kindofabuzz - somewhat.  it used to be (don't know for sure, i run arch on my nvidia laptop now) that the ubuntu proprietary driver lagged a bit behind the ones available through envy
[08:41] <tux97> ok nanobug ty
[08:41] <phynix> nanobug why arch
[08:41] <kindofabuzz> what is arch?
[08:41] <phynix> type of distro
[08:41] <thkaal> Okay, color me an idiot, but i don't know how to chroot or anything so i can use this mobo with jmicron sata/pata
[08:42] <unop_> thkaal, why do you need to chroot to use a motherboard?
[08:42] <nanobug> its based on slackware, it's a real barebones type of distro
[08:42] <kindofabuzz> why does ubuntu see my drives as scsi??
[08:42] <BenniBoya> hey, When i start ubuntu it says "import error: libdb-4.5.so, no such file or dir
[08:42] <kindofabuzz> there not
[08:42] <BenniBoya> and it goes kaboooom
[08:42] <phynix> kindofabuzz mine do it too
[08:42] <phynix> nanobug i think arch is on my new project list
[08:42] <nanobug> and i like it mainly for the package manager and the bsd style init system
[08:43] <nanobug> its a good stepping stone on my pursuit of linux (and unix) knowledge
[08:43] <thkaal> that's what the forums say.  i get that sbin/modprobe abnormal exit error on feisty.
[08:43] <BenniBoya> hey, When i start ubuntu it says "import error: libdb-4.5.so, no such file or dir, Then when python starts after it it tries to run that file and says command not found the finally command not found crashes
[08:43] <kindofabuzz> bbl
[08:43] <unop_> kindofabuzz, it doesn't see them as scsi .. the underlying device driver is just more uniform now, it just makes all disk devices appear as /dev/sdXX
[08:44] <nanobug> i still run ubuntu on my server though.  it's easy to use and i don't have to fuss with it.
[08:44] <nanobug> uptime going on 60 days and that would be longer if it werent for a power outage
[08:44] <bullgard4> On my computer exists the script file /usr/lib/pm-utils/functions. I would like to know what program calls this program. I tried to answer this question: In http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.22.14/ I searched for 'functions' but obtained 4959 estimated hits. How to solve this problem? 'lsof | grep functions' does not produce any output.
[08:44] <nanobug> and i'm running hardy alpha :)
[08:44] <ere4si> BenniBoya: see if this gives a clue - http://kenno.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/fix-usrliblibdb-45so-no-version-information-available/
[08:44] <nanobug> a testement to the ubuntu developers
[08:45] <shane__> i can only see my files and printers now
[08:45] <BenniBoya> ty m8
[08:45] <shane__> how can i make it so that i can make a dir
[08:45] <unop_> BenniBoya, try installing the libdb4.5 package
[08:45] <shane__> and what not
[08:45] <SlayerFaith> !wine
[08:45] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:45] <CVD-PR> Why i cant find in add/remove the samething that sypantic have?
[08:46] <phynix> shane_  sudo mkdir name
[08:46] <nanobug> phynix i would definately recommend giving arch a spin.  it's educational.  nothing like ubuntu, you'll be making friends with a text editor, but it's pretty sweet.  pacman is nice, in my opinion better than apt-get
[08:46] <shane__> where do i have to do that from
[08:46] <phynix> terminal
[08:46] <shane__> the Ubuntu machine
[08:46] <BenniBoya> ere4si: hey, i looked at that p[age, i ddnt instlal that prog, and i cant even get to the logon nscreen, only a terminal on revoery after it crashed
[08:47] <phynix> nanobug ill will have to give it a try this weekend. How is hardy
[08:47] <nanobug> add/remove only lists the most popular packages if i recall correctly
[08:47] <unop_> bullgard4, can i ask why you want to know what the caller of that script is?
[08:47] <ere4si> BenniBoya: did you install amorak or something before the error?
[08:47] <nanobug> hardy is running extremely well thus far.  as i said it's a server so I don't actually do much beyond host files and web pages on it
[08:47] <nanobug> but i'
[08:47] <BenniBoya> ere4si: nup, i installed a game but that wasw it
[08:47] <nanobug> i've encountered no issues
[08:48] <shane__> i did that but its still only seeing MyFiles and Printers
[08:48] <shane__> when i go from the windows vista machine to the Ubuntu
[08:48] <ere4si> BenniBoya: what was the game?
[08:48] <nanobug> shane__: what are you trying to do?
[08:48] <bullgard4> unop_: Yes. I want to understand the pm-utils better and thus use them more intelligently. Hibernate and suspend to sleep work on my computer with certain restrictions. I wnat to circumvent those restrictions.
[08:49] <phynix> nanobug the only server i have running is to cache updates
[08:49] <BenniBoya> ere4si: uuuuhhh... I think it was crossfire
[08:49] <BenniBoya> i had ubuntu-satanic aswell
[08:49] <shane__> trying to use Ubuntu as a shell from my windows vista computer
[08:50] <phynix> shane_ look into ssh
[08:50] <shane__> so i can run linux programs on
[08:50] <nanobug> ok ssh as in just shell or x over ssh
[08:50] <shane__> so there is no way to make a directory on the Ubuntu machine from windows ?
[08:50] <unop_> bullgard4, i see -- you could use grep to search through all the text files in the directories of $PATH -- that should list other scripts that might call it
[08:50] <phynix> you can over ssh shane_
[08:51] <nanobug> do you not have access to the server physically?
[08:51] <shane__> so thats something else i need to install now
[08:51] <shane__> i can see ubuntu
[08:51] <thkaal> so, can anyone help me put in some modules in my /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
[08:51] <shane__> on the windows machine
[08:51] <unop_> shane__, sure -- you just need to share a folder with write permissions on samba -- and you should be able to create folders in it
[08:51] <shane__> i just can not access the folders on it
[08:51] <nanobug> yeah you wont be able to make that folder unless you have write permissions through samba
[08:51] <phynix> wait are the windows and ubuntu the same machine
[08:51] <shane__> nope
[08:52] <shane__> this one runs Ubuntu and the other Windows Vista
[08:52] <phynix> what folder are you trying to create
[08:52] <unop_> thkaal, it's a text file, you add modules to it in the same way you add modules to /etc/modules -- but remember to run update-initramfs afterwards
[08:52] <phynix> and why
[08:52] <shane__> how do i add through Samba
[08:52] <ere4si> BenniBoya: from this page - http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=1768372 - "-ldb-4.5 is the name of the Berkeley DB library to use. The actual library file will be called libdb-4.5.{a/so}"
[08:52] <unop_> BenniBoya, try installing the libdb4.5 package
[08:52] <thkaal> but it won't let me save that file.  says i only have read permissions
[08:52] <unop_> BenniBoya, sudo apt-get install libdb4.5
[08:52] <nanobug> ok on the ubuntu machine you want to open a terminal, type in (without quotes) "sudo aptitude install ssh"
[08:53] <BenniBoya> unop_: will that work from a recovert terminal
[08:53] <unop_> thkaal, yes, you need to open the editor up under sudo
[08:53] <unop_> BenniBoya, it should, yes
[08:53] <BenniBoya> without the net?
[08:53] <BenniBoya> i dont thkn my wireless drivers had loaded
[08:53] <thkaal> okay, i'm on the livecd right now, and i want to save this to the disk.  so sudo it still?
[08:54] <bullgard4> unop_: I do not what I should replace $PATH with.
[08:54] <nanobug> owwwwww
[08:55] <nanobug> i don't think my doc gave me enough vicodins.  teh pains are great.
[08:55] <unop_> BenniBoya, worth a try -- if you are not connected to the net -- you can always download and install the package manually - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libdb-4.5.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=gutsy&arch=any
[08:55] <shane__> okay ssh is setup now
[08:55] <shane__> is there a file i need to edit
[08:55] <shane__> or can i now ssh to it
[08:55] <nanobug> ok now do you have putty or another ssh client on the windows machine?
[08:55] <Finnish> Hello
[08:56] <Finnish> I'd need some help installing Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 on a laptop
[08:56] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Finnish, what kind of help?
[08:56] <shane__> shane
[08:56] <nanobug> you can ssh in to it, but if you want to keep your box secure you should change the ssh port
[08:56] <phynix> Finnish why do you need help
[08:56] <unop_> bullgard4,  for i in $(perl -Wle 'print "@{[split/:/, +shift]}"' $PATH); do grep -inRH "scriptname" $i/*; done
[08:57] <phynix> if y ou want to get fancy shane_ you could look into webwin
[08:57] <Finnish> My main concern is the available space in laptop and how the installer is going to use it
[08:57] <nanobug> which you can do by (w/o quotes) "sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[08:57] <Finnish> It has 1 disc, in two partitions
[08:57] <nanobug> look for the line # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
[08:57] <nanobug> under that it will say Port 22
[08:57] <phynix> Finnish whats on both of them
[08:57] <Finnish> 1 partiotion is Windows, about 5gb of space lef5t
[08:57] <phynix> and the other
[08:57] <shane__> what port would you recommend
[08:57] <tux97> nanobug how do u change the ssh port?
[08:58] <unop_> bullgard4, you'd need to expand $PATH -- split the directories and then loop through them to use grep .. like there so
[08:58] <Finnish> Second is a storage partition, abpit 30gb space left
[08:58] <nanobug> change it to an open port (something in the 5000-5100 range should be open)
[08:58] <nanobug> then save
[08:58] <shane__> ssh works now i can log into my ubuntu machine through putty
[08:58] <thkaal> nvm, figured out how to sudo it
[08:58] <phynix> do you want to keep windows?
[08:58] <shane__> yeah
[08:58] <shane__> of course
[08:58] <ajmorris|AFK> does anyone know if VPS is the only way to host an irc bot?
[08:58] <Finnish> Yes, I want to keep win
[08:58] <nanobug> now when you make the directory you want to make, unless you are making it under a shared directory already, you will need to share it
[08:59] <phynix> ok well when you put ubuntu on it, it makes its own partition
[08:59] <phynix> you can control it
[08:59] <shane__> can i get help making it secure now
[08:59] <phynix> and its pretty safe
[08:59] <unop_> ajmorris|AFK, i shouldnt think so -- there are thousands of bots for different needs and requirements -- although i have no experience with them firsthand
[08:59] <phynix> but i would back up your stuff
[08:59] <nanobug> and im not entirely sure how to set those permissions from the command line but if you need help i'll be happy to help you out, i just need a minute to figure it out
[08:59] <Finnish> Ok, how can I assign where the installer is taking it's Ubuntu space?
[09:00] <lappy> Hi, i need some help on getting tv out working  with a laptop, output of lspci is here if that helps http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60265/
[09:00] <shane__> how can i access Samba and set permissions to use other folders ?
[09:00] <nanobug> shane__:  follow the instructions http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_change_SSH_Server_Port_Number
[09:00] <phynix> when you open the installer it lets you manual edit partition tables
[09:00] <phynix> nad it will show all of the ones you have
[09:00] <omar_> Can anyone give me the link for the pastebin please?
[09:00] <nanobug> that help file also explains how to share samba folders if you scroll up to the index at the front
[09:00] <lappy> !pastebin
[09:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:01] <Finnish> Manually partition, not automatic?
[09:01] <phynix> finnish try this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[09:01] <shane__> is it easy to tell samba what directories to share with
[09:01] <ikonia> !dualboot > Finnish
[09:01] <tux97> thanks nanobug i made a note of it
[09:01] <gan_> when i install ubiquity in my system i am getting the error like this @WARNING: Undefined kernel key code for 214@
[09:01] <ikonia> Finnish: please see the official link sent by ubotu
[09:02] <phynix> thanks ikonia
[09:02] <nanobug> Yes.  if you go into nautilus (the file manager) and right click on a folder you want to share you can share it that way
[09:02] <unop_> shane__, yes .. consult the samba documentation
[09:02] <nanobug> you said that you're already able to access the myfiles folder, correct?
[09:02] <norty> Question: I am trying to compile a program in C and it says i can't find a header file, where are header files kept in ubuntu?
[09:02] <Finnish> Ok!
[09:02] <gan_> when i install ubiquity in my system i am getting the error like this WARNING: Undefined kernel key code for 214@
[09:02] <nanobug> tux97: you're quite welcome
[09:02] <shane__> which one do i ready ?
[09:02] <ikonia> phynix: no problem always nice to give an ubuntu url so that its an official solution if there is problems
[09:03] <ikonia> gan_: stop asking every 15 seconds
[09:03] <unop_> norty, it depends how the #include directive is set
[09:03] <tux97> nanobug are u running a html server?
[09:03] <unop_> norty, if it's  #include <path/file.h>  -- then it's probably /usr/lib/path/file.h
[09:03] <ikonia> norty: it will depend on which headers it's looking
[09:03] <phynix> tux97 its pretty fun then you can make your own repo
[09:03] <lappy> anyone know of some links about tvout on a laptop?
[09:03] <nanobug> tux97: yes
[09:03] <norty> unop_, its just #include <file.h>
[09:04] <ikonia> norty: is it actually "file.h" that it's looking for
[09:04] <unop_> norty, probably /usr/lib/file.h then
[09:04] <tux97> phynix what was that directed to sorry
[09:04] <nanobug> nothing special i mainly set it up to host a jinzora jukebox
[09:04] <nanobug> which btw is flippin sweeeeet
[09:04] <phynix> tux97 just a really random comment about html servers sorry
[09:04] <tux97> cool nanobug same here
[09:04] <nanobug> listen to your mp3s from anywhere
[09:04] <unop_> norty, was this code written by you?
[09:05] <norty> unop_, no im trying to learn how to write plugins for pidgin and they gave me code and i tried to compile it but it says it can't find #include <glib.h> ..
[09:05] <norty> unop_, so im trying to find out where header files are kept to see if it's really not there
[09:05] <tux97> not me lol that sounds cool nanobug
[09:05] <unop_> norty, ahh .. you probably need to install the glib-dev package
[09:05] <ikonia> norty you'll need to install the glib-headers (devel) package
[09:05] <nanobug> it is pretty cool, and easy to set up as well
[09:05] <norty> sudo apt-get install glib-dev ?
[09:05] <tux97> phynix and and nanobug wanna see my site lol
[09:05] <nanobug> sure
[09:06] <unop_> norty, errm, let's see
[09:06] <phynix> sure
[09:06] <tux97> http://motux.org
[09:06] <nanobug> here is a link about jinzora if you want to check it out
[09:06] <nanobug> http://lifehacker.com/software/home-server/geek-to-live-build-an-internet-jukebox-with-jinzora-254178.php
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[09:06] <tux97> ty nanobug
[09:06] <phynix> sounds like fun tux97
[09:06] <unop_> norty, sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[09:07] <ikonia> unop_: well found
[09:07] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with my KTorrent issues? I do port forwarding, but ports seem to be closed. I'm not behind any firewall. http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccb7e13977183/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce0ea93977185/
[09:07] <nanobug> nice haha reminds me of the old days
[09:07] <thkaal> one final question.....
[09:07] <shane__> thanks for the help all
[09:07] <shane__> very much appreciated
[09:07] <unop_> ikonia, only coz i've been programming gtk+/glib recently too :)
[09:07] <nanobug> shane__: you're welcome
[09:07] <tux97> what does nanobug lol
[09:08] <gan_> if i try to install, i can not set the / filesytem what to do
[09:08] <shane__> i can not find the samba file to read how to share folders though
[09:08] <nanobug> tux97:  your site.  it reminds me of my old homepage
[09:08] <shane__> maybe i am not looking in the right one
[09:08] <ikonia> !samba > shane__
[09:08] <nanobug> shane__: one moment, i'll give you a link
[09:08] <shane__> cool
[09:08] <maxlinux> hi guys
[09:08] <ikonia> shane__: check out the link from ubotu, that will give you some good docs
[09:08] <shane__> thanks again
[09:08] <nanobug> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Samba_Server
[09:08] <maxlinux> i have some files id like to copy from linux to windows
[09:08] <omar_> Guys I've been facing a problem with G++ lately. Every time I try to sudo apt get install it, I get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60267/
[09:08] <maxlinux> how do i do that
[09:08] <thkaal> how do i run update-initramfs so it updates the right place?
[09:08] <J-_> I'm trying to configure for a static IP on my server. I've changed interfaces, and resolv.conf, is this correct? http://pastebin.ca/950060 If not, what do I need to change or fix?
[09:08] <ikonia> nanobug: if possible try to give official links
[09:09] <omar_> can anyone help me please??
[09:09] <norty> unop_, i installed that but it still gives me the same error.. hmm
[09:09] <tux97> cool nanobug i stole the frames from one of my friends friends site lol
[09:09] <unop_> thkaal, update-initramfs knows exactly what to do -- you just run it :)
[09:09] <nanobug> ikonia: sorry ikonia i'll try to be more mindful of that.
[09:09] <norty> unop_, maybe I need to reinstall?
[09:09] <nanobug> forgot this is a semi-official help channel
[09:09] <unop_> norty, reinstall what?
[09:09] <thkaal> unop, i did and it said it couldn't find /lib/modules/[all]
[09:10] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with my KTorrent issues? I do port forwarding, but ports seem to be closed. I'm not behind any firewall. http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccb7e13977183/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce0ea93977185/
[09:10] <nanobug> tux97: have you ever used mysql and php?
[09:10] <unop_> thkaal, is that the exact error message?
[09:10] <norty> unop_, nevermind ... i dunno its still giving me the same error.. hmm
[09:10] <tux97> no just frontpage cause its easy lol
[09:10] <unop_> norty, hold on a sec
[09:10] <thkaal> nvm, i see what i did wrong
[09:10] <phynix> alreaight tux97 nanobug i am out good luck with the web server
[09:10] <norty> unop_, np :]
[09:10] <nanobug> phynix: have a good one, friend :)
[09:11] <veke> Hi people ... I've a problem : I got a old fijjitsu computer that has some problem with the keyboard... I can't use it untill i'm on a operative system like a live... How could i install linux without keyboard? ( remember that i dont have to use keyboard neither at the bootloader ) ... Or some suggestion for make the keyboard working?
[09:11] <tux97> phynix ty for your help email me if u want :)
[09:11] <omar_> Guys I've been facing a problem with G++ lately. Every time I try to sudo apt get install it, I get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60267/
[09:11] <phynix> ill be on here tomorrow so talk to you then tux97
[09:11] <thkaal> be back shortly, rebooting, hopefully this works
[09:11] <tux97> ok phynix
[09:11] <nanobug> tux97:  you should look in to php+mysql.  the set up is a little prolonged but once you get it set up you can install wordpress which is about as easy as it gets
[09:12] <tux97> cool
[09:12] <nanobug> of course you won't learn much about html running wordpress :)
[09:12] <veke> could someone help me please?
[09:12] <nanobug> but it all depends on what you want your page for
[09:12] <nanobug> here's my page, not a whole lot there yet:
[09:12] <nanobug> http://www.nan0box.com
[09:12] <nanobug> veke: how may i help?
[09:13] <tux97> nanobug is there away to listen to music over the network instead of clicking on one at a time?
[09:13] <unop_> norty, what happens when you change the include to - #include <glib/glib.h>
[09:13] <maxlinux> How can i copy files from linux to windows????
[09:13] <fw0127>  hello, is there someone have the problem with pop-menu with gui in hardy? when I
[09:13] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with my KTorrent issues? I do port forwarding, but ports seem to be closed. I'm not behind any firewall. http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccb7e13977183/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce0ea93977185/
[09:13] <fw0127>                 click on the menu bottun, no menu item pop out :( hello, is there someone have the problem with pop-menu with gui in hardy? when I
[09:13] <veke> nanobug
[09:13] <norty> unop_, same error, should I recompile?
[09:14] <veke> did you read my problem?
[09:14] <veke> Hi people ... I've a problem : I got a old fijjitsu computer that has some problem with the keyboard... I can't use it untill i'm on a operative system like a live... How could i install linux without keyboard? ( remember that i dont have to use keyboard neither at the bootloader ) ... Or some suggestion for make the keyboard working?
[09:14] <nanobug> veke: i see it now, one second
[09:14] <omar_> Guys I've been facing a problem with G++ lately. Every time I try to sudo apt get install it, I get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60267/
[09:14] <fw0127>                 click on the menu bottun, no menu item pop out :(
[09:14] <unop_> norty, how are you getting that error? and/or what do you mean by recompile?
[09:14] <SlayerFaith> maxlinux: Within windows, you can access linux partitions with an OS tool called ext2fs
[09:14] <tux97> maxlinux u got samba installed?
[09:14] <SlayerFaith> read-only
[09:14] <maxlinux> no
[09:14] <maxlinux> i want to copy from linux To windows
[09:15] <norty> unop_, I didn't use apt-get to install it, I compiled it from a tarball and now that i've installed all these library files and dependencies should I recompile?
[09:15] <unop_> omar_, try this -- sudo aptitude install -f
[09:15] <nanobug> veke: thats an interesting one.  do you want to run windows and linux on the same system?
[09:15] <lancerocke> maxlinux: i can read and write to and from my linux partition from Vista
[09:15] <nanobug> tux97: are you using samba to browse your music folders from the machine you're listening on?
[09:15] <maxlinux> lacerocke how?
[09:16] <maxlinux> lancerocke how ..?
[09:16] <tux97> yes nanobug
[09:16] <veke> nanobug i'm interested only on windows
[09:16] <veke> sorry
[09:16] <lancerocke> maxlinux: its like SlayerFaith said
[09:16] <veke> on linux
[09:16] <unop_> norty, ok, i'm confused now -- what is "it" here? glib? or the source (for the pidgin plugin) you are trying to compile?
[09:16] <lancerocke> maxlinux: That app
[09:16] <nanobug> in that case you should be able to boot from the live cd and do a full install
[09:16] <lancerocke> maxlinux: Or some app. I forget which one I have
[09:16] <maxlinux> lancerocke: is it workin on linux?
[09:16] <norty> unop_, recompile/make pidgin
[09:16] <norty> i dunno im confused
[09:16] <norty> lol
[09:16] <veke> nanobug
[09:16] <lancerocke> maxlinux: I know i have 3 different apps for accesing Linux
[09:16] <maxlinux> lancerocke: im a real noob
[09:16] <maxlinux> lancerocke: i need these files really
[09:17] <omar_> unop_:  I tried million times, but all I get every time is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60268/
[09:17] <veke> nanobug: does exist a live cd without boot prompt? Only starts
[09:17] <unop_> norty, you apt-get glib and you compile the source tarball
[09:17] <lancerocke> maxlinux: I write TO my NTFS windows partitions from here (linux) too
[09:17] <ColdFyre> maxlinux
[09:17] <maxlinux> how
[09:17] <ColdFyre> =maxInx?
[09:17] <zetheroo> can someone help me mount a .dmg through qemu
[09:17] <nanobug> veke: the boot prompt should have a timer that will run out and do a default boot
[09:17] <maxlinux> i have some important files on my ubuntu and want to copy them to windows!!
[09:17] <lancerocke> maxlinux: Just google "read and write ntfs from windows"
[09:17] <maxlinux> coldfyre: yes?
[09:17] <nanobug> i may be wrong about that, however
[09:17] <norty> unop_, sudo apt-get glib?
[09:17] <veke> nanobug i tryed 5 live :P
[09:17] <lancerocke> maxlinux: I mean read write ext from windows
[09:17] <unop_> omar_, always include the command when you include output -- it gives context to troubleshooting and makes it easier -- what command was giving you the previous error/>?
[09:18] <unop_> norty, sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[09:18] <lancerocke> maxlinux: there are many apps that let u do it
[09:18] <nanobug> veke:  ok i'm probably wrong about that then.
[09:18] <M4R10> exit
[09:18] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with my KTorrent issues? I do port forwarding, but ports seem to be closed. I'm not behind any firewall. http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccb7e13977183/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce0ea93977185/
[09:18] <veke> i want to upgrade my bios
[09:18] <veke> but the starting floppy
[09:18] <veke> need the keyboard
[09:18] <Tesla|Work> is hardy beta already out?
[09:18] <omar_> unop: it was: sudo apt-get install g++
[09:18] <veke> some suggestion for starting an automated command ?
[09:18] <nanobug> you could use isobuster to open the livecd .iso
[09:19] <nanobug> then change the configuration for the boot menu
[09:19] <nanobug> that would be a bit of a chore though
[09:19] <unop_> omar_, try this to install g++ --  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:19] <norty> unop_, ok i did that now should i do ./configure and then make ?
[09:19] <nanobug> veke is your keyboard usb or ps2 plug?
[09:19] <unop_> norty, go ahead :)
[09:19] <maxlinux> lancerocke: i need the name of one of these apps
[09:20] <veke> ps2
[09:20] <lancerocke> maxlinux: fine
[09:20] <veke> but i tryed to change
[09:20] <lancerocke> maxlinux: one second
[09:20] <unop_> omar_, you might also want to ensure your package list is upto date -- sudo aptitude update
[09:21] <lancerocke> maxlinux: http://fs-driver.org/
[09:21] <nanobug> so you tried a usb keyboard?
[09:21] <mark[oz]> is there a video player for ubuntu that can handle fast forward without skipping ahead chunks?
[09:21] <maxlinux> ok thx ill try lacerocke
[09:21] <unop_> norty, any luck?
[09:22] <norty> unop_, yeah i think i got it, thanks!!
[09:22] <unop_> norty, cool :)
[09:22] <tux97> nanobug forget about me lol
[09:22] <nanobug> tux97:  no i didn't forget
[09:22] <tux97> ok cool nanobug
[09:23] <kadakas> heelp! My Logitech V470 bluetooth mouse keeps disconnecting from my ubuntu 7.10 if i dont use the mouse for 5minutes or more!?!?
[09:23] <unop_> . o 0 (he needs more omega3 in his diet)
[09:23] <nanobug> if you are, say, browsing from windows
[09:23] <lancerocke> maxlinux: http://fs-driver.org/ u can read and write
[09:23] <nanobug> you can right click on the folder and play the whole folder of music
[09:23] <lancerocke> maxlinux: http://fs-driver.org/ u can read and write to ext from windows
[09:23] <lancerocke> Can anyone help me with my KTorrent issues? I do port forwarding, but ports seem to be closed. I'm not behind any firewall. http://www.imagebam.com/image/ccb7e13977183/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce0ea93977185/
[09:23] <unop_> !repeat | lancerocke
[09:23] <ubotu> lancerocke: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:23] <nanobug> if i recall, there is also a way to mount a samba share as another drive
[09:24] <omar_> unop_: I just tried " sudo apt-get install build-essential", I got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60269/
[09:24] <nanobug> then you can access it as though it were on the host computer
[09:24] <nanobug> how you would go about that depends on what os you're running
[09:24] <unop_> omar_, have you run this recently? sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[09:25] <tux97> nanobug i dont see play when i right click on the folder
[09:25] <Draggin> Good day.  I have some trouble with my Feisty installation - what is the appropriate room to go to for advice?
[09:25] <unop_> nanobug, on windows you mean?
[09:25] <nanobug> ok, what os are you trying to play the music on?
[09:25] <nanobug> and what os is the music hosted on?
[09:25] <unop_> Draggin, this should be the room ..
[09:26] <Draggin> unop_ isn't this for Gutsy help?
[09:26] <XB23> guys
[09:26] <tux97> well from gusty to gusty shares
[09:26] <omar_> unop: I've been trying to upgrade to Hardy Heron Alpha 5 lately, but it wasn't working, so I guess this is why I'm having this problem.
[09:26] <nanobug> oh
[09:26] <XB23> ive just installed ubuntu, how do i set the root password via sudo?
[09:26] <nanobug> okay
[09:26] <unop_> Draggin, no, it's for all types of ubuntu :)
[09:26] <nanobug> what media player are you using?
[09:26] <Draggin> Cool :)  Thanks unop_
[09:26] <tux97> i'm runing two gusty lol
[09:27] <unop_> omar_, ok, did you try to dist-upgrade recently?
[09:27] <wressle> Hello, is there _any_ way that I can access my software raid (which I made in Ubuntu) from a Windows XP system? I.e, mount it somehow.
[09:27] <tux97> it was using tmodem something like that but i dont know witch one to run
[09:27] <Draggin> Okay, well - here goes... I am currently in text mode only - I totally broke X and I can't quite remember what the command line based package manager is called.
[09:27] <stefan_> sudo passwd root
[09:27] <omar_> unop: nope, do you think it will work?
[09:27] <unop_> Draggin, apt-get/aptitude/dselect/dpkg -- few of many :)
[09:27] <Draggin> Also, is there an easy way (like one command) that I can issue to reinstall critical packages to get back into my system?
[09:28] <XB23> yeh i did that stefan_
[09:28] <XB23>  tgbedcpp
[09:28] <XB23> all it says is Sorry, try again.
[09:28] <unop_> omar_, well, you could very well experience the problems you have now if you have hardy sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list but the system hasn't fully dist-upgraded (in otherwords, it's still gutsy or whatever)
[09:28] <nanobug> tux97: mount -t smbfs -o username=name,password=password //machinename/sharename /media/sharename
[09:28] <unop_> omar_, what repos do you have in your sources.list?
[09:29] <nanobug> replacing everything with it's obvious counterparts
[09:29] <nanobug> you will need to sudo mkdir /media/sharename
[09:29] <omar_> unop_: can you tell me exactly how to check that out?
[09:29] <unop_> omar_, !pastebin the output of this command - cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <nanobug> you can add that to /etc/fstab to have it mount on bootup
[09:30] <unop_> Draggin, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[09:30] <nanobug> or just make a shell script that runs when you start gnome/xfce/kde
[09:31] <omar_> unop_: There you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60272/
[09:31] <tux97> ok nanobug is it like mount -t smbfs -o username=myname,pasword=mypassword //tuxy/music /whats /media/sharename?
[09:31] <unop_> tux97, you need to make that directory -- sudo mkdir /media/sharename
[09:32] <nanobug> tux97:  so for instance, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=tux97,password=yourpassword //tuxy/music /media/directory_you_need_to_make
[09:32] <Draggin> unop_ thanks - I'll go give that a shot...
[09:32] <XB23> whenever i run apt-get install it tells me to insert the cdrom for ubuntu - but i dont have access to the cd rom
[09:32] <omar_> unop_: Do I try to dist-upgrade??
[09:32] <nanobug> whatever your samba username is should go after username=
[09:33] <unop_> omar_, it doesnt look like sources.list was modified for the dist-upgrade -- can you tell me how you tried dist-upgrading earlier?
[09:33] <veke> yes nanobug
[09:33] <omar_> s
[09:33] <veke> i tryed both usb and ps2
[09:33] <veke> i'mgoing to have a shower
[09:34] <mecika> good luck
[09:34] <unop_> XB23, are you connected to the internet?
[09:34] <jokerjr> could you enable multiple desktop background in ubuntu
[09:34] <unop_> XB23, i mean that machine..
[09:34] <nanobug> veke: honestly, i don't have a solution for your problem, but while you shower i'll google around and see what i can come up with
[09:34] <jokerjr> how do you do that
[09:35] <XB23> ah iv got it
[09:35] <tux97> nanobug i got  a error
[09:35] <XB23> just editted sources.list
[09:35] <XB23> remvoed cdrom
[09:35] <unop_> jokerjr, as if one wasnt enough, you want more- - why would you want multiple backgrounds ?
[09:35] <waylandbill> jokerjr, do you want to rotate the background images after some time?
[09:35] <tux97> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //tuxy/music,
[09:35] <tux97>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[09:35] <tux97>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:35] <tux97>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:35] <MohammadBoozary> Happy Nowruz :)
[09:35] <nanobug> mm
[09:35] <nanobug> thats.. nice
[09:35] <nanobug> one sec
[09:35] <jokerjr> you see i am using 2 screens for the time being
[09:35] <tux97> ok nanobug
[09:35] <unop_> tux97, you seem to have a command there .. //tuxy/music,  ??
[09:36] <jokerjr> and i want to make both screen different
[09:36] <unop_> tux97, sorry, s/command/comma/
[09:36] <hyakuhei> hi all, I'm having some big problems here. I initially installed using the server disc so I could have encrypted lvm. now I have kernel issues I cant get restricted to work ...
[09:36] <jokerjr> bec  i get confused sometimes
[09:36] <nanobug> try replacing tuxy with the ip address
[09:36] <omar_> unop_: I totally forgot about the dist-upgrade command until you mentioned it now, so all I was doing was: "sudo apt-get update -d" or "sudo apt-get upgrade -d"
[09:36] <waylandbill> jokerjr: using xinerama? is it just one big desktop or one desktop per screen?
[09:36] <hyakuhei> uname -a : Linux typhoon 2.6.22-14-generic
[09:36] <omar_> unop_: Or the same too, but with "aptitude" instead of "apt-get"
[09:36] <madmn> is it hard to lock a user in one directory
[09:37] <nanobug> ah
[09:37] <nanobug> you know
[09:37] <nanobug> tux97:  i skipped a crucial step :)
[09:37] <nanobug> lol
[09:37] <jokerjr> 1 desktop per screen
[09:37] <nanobug> i blame vicodin
[09:37] <unop_> omar_, but before you run the dis-upgrade command -- you need to modify the sources.list to contain hardy repos, otherwise it wont have an updated list of hardy packages
[09:37] <xjerX> anyone having problems with the ubuntu-docs 7.10.5 update for Gutsy?  It says "Setting Up" and sits there.
[09:37] <jokerjr> is it possible to do that
[09:37] <tux97> what nanobug
[09:37] <nanobug> tux97: sudo apt-get install smbfs smbclient
[09:37] <madmn> like if i only want to allow them to stay in their own directory
[09:37] <omar_> unop_: And how do I do that?
[09:37] <unop_> omar_, and while you're at that -- you might as well clean up your sources.list file -- it's all over the place :)
[09:37] <xnox> what's the difference between irc.ubuntu.com and freenode.net?
[09:37] <waylandbill> jokerjr: if there are seperate desktops, you should be able to right click one desktop and configure the background for it independent from the other.
[09:37] <madmn> is it hard to do such thing
[09:38] <explicitly> i asked over at #ubuntu+1 but I'll ask here too......Does anyone have any experience with evolution-addressbook-export?
[09:38] <explicitly> I have used it successfully in gusty but when I try in hardy i get an warning: "** (evolution-addressbook-export:16195): WARNING **: FIXME: wait for completion unimplemented"
[09:38] <omar_> unop_: Can you help do these things? :D
[09:38] <gan_>  i am getting error when i install from live cd to my harddisk
[09:38] <nanobug> tux97:  then try this
[09:38] <tux97> ok
[09:38] <unop_> omar_, usually, all you have to do is replace each instance of the word gutsy with hardy  in sources.list -- except the 3rd party repos
[09:38] <jokerjr> but how ? on my lower right corner, there are 2 screens right
[09:39] <vallhalla81> what do i need to install to play mp3 on rythmbox?
[09:39] <reza_20> any iran
[09:39] <vallhalla81> !mp3
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <nanobug> tux97: sudo smbmount //sharename/music /media/folder_you_created -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword
[09:39] <waylandbill> explicitly: sounds like the developers put a stub for a function that's not yet written
[09:39] <jokerjr> but when i change the screen for one of hem the other changes too
[09:39] <explicitly> ahh...that would explain....
[09:39] <jokerjr> but how ? on my lower right corner, there are 2 screens right
[09:39] <jokerjr> but when i change the screen for one of hem the other changes too
[09:40] <reza_20> pussy
[09:40] <nanobug> let me know how that works for you
[09:40] <madmn> does anyone know how hard it would be to keep a user in their own home directory and not let them go anywhere else ?
[09:40] <unop__> omar_, this should do the trick / work -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's/gutsy/hardy/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <unop__> omar_, this should do the trick / work -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's/gutsy/hardy/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <kraut> is there a method to debug what debconf-frontend is doing? everytime i install a new package, the postinst fails because there is an error 1.
[09:40] <tux97> nanobug sharename that would be the ip right?
[09:40] <jokerjr> is it possible to change just one screen and keep the other.
[09:40] <nanobug> yeah that's probably the best way to do it
[09:40] <waylandbill> jokerjr: then it sounds like you have one desktop that is spanning both monitors. You need to configure two seperate desktops, not one that continues on to both to have two backgrounds. However, please note that you may not be able to drag windows between them if you do.
[09:40] <kraut> for example: http://pastebin.com/m657d38f2
[09:41] <jokerjr> oh so its not possible then
[09:41] <madmn> nanobug any ideas
[09:41] <jokerjr> oh so its not possible then?
[09:41] <unop__> kraut, you get the post-inst script to be verbose -- usually you edit the post-inst script and add "set +x" (i think)
[09:42] <kraut> unop_: i did, but it's still the frontend i think:
[09:42] <joot> madnn, users do stay in there own dir
[09:42] <kraut> + /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.postinst configure 2007f-3ubuntu1
[09:42] <nanobug> madmn: can't say that i know how to do that.  i've never had a need to
[09:42] <kraut> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von tzdata (--configure):
[09:42] <waylandbill> jokerjr: it is possible. I've done 3 desktops. 1 on two monitors and a third on my television set. It all depends on the way you set it up. I used nvidia-settings since I have an nvidia card.
[09:42] <nanobug> i mean, they can't do anything outside of their home directory
[09:42] <nanobug> by default
[09:42] <nanobug> they can look but not touch
[09:43] <nanobug> if you want to restrict them to not even being able to look i wouldn't know how to do that
[09:43] <jokerjr> i dont use nvidia but is it possible
[09:43] <jokerjr> i use dell media accelerator
[09:43] <omar_> unop_: And after that, I should "sudo aptitude update". right?
[09:43] <jokerjr> haha sad huh
[09:43] <nanobug> tux97: how did that work for you?
[09:44] <unop__> omar_, or two-in-one -- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[09:44] <tux97> editing my notes n then i'm trying
[09:44] <madmn> so they could not touch any files then ?
[09:44] <tux97> so change the machinename to ip addy and what else needs to be the ip addy nanobug
[09:44] <unop__> kraut, that looks like the postfix preinst script failing -- is that the script you modified?
[09:45] <joot> madnm, they cannot alter them they do have permission
[09:45] <omar_> unop_: Uh-huh, okay. And are you sure this is going to solve the G++ problem?
[09:45] <nanobug> that should be it
[09:45] <waylandbill> madmn: usually if there is something you need secured, in other words noone else look at, you remove read privs from others and maybe even from groups if applicable. You can use sticky bits and/or umasks to make newly created files follow that sort of scheme as well.
[09:45] <unop__> omar_, i bl**dy well hope so :)
[09:45] <nanobug> for my system it looks like this:
[09:45] <kraut> unop_: every script fails on the same way
[09:45] <omar_> unop_: So, it's not guaranteed, huh?
[09:46] <waylandbill> jokerjr: sorry, I don't know anything about dell media accel. You may try contacting the developers of that software to ask if they know how it is done if at all possible.
[09:46] <unop__> omar_, well, let's say i believe it to succeed almost 95% .. there's always a remote chance something else might be at play
[09:46] <tux97> nanobug whats the sharename?
[09:46] <nanobug> sudo smbmount //192.168.1.151/Music /media/music -o username=myusername,password=mypassword
[09:47] <nanobug> thats my system
[09:47] <tux97> ok ty
[09:47] <unop__> kraut, every preinst script fails ?
[09:47] <nanobug> i would just do: sudo mkdir /media/music
[09:47] <kraut> unop_: every postinst or postrm.
[09:47] <omar_> unop_: LOL, 95% is not a bad chance, I guess. :D
[09:47] <waylandbill> madmn: without read privs, they couldn't view the files. Without read privs on the directories, they couldn't even get the listings of the directories.
[09:47] <nanobug> then once you get it mounted just point your media player to build a library from that directory
[09:48] <unop__> kraut, can you post a more elaborate output -- that maybe contains many of these errors?
[09:49] <kraut> unop_: no, because at one time only one package fails. when i do an exit 0 into the postinst of postfix, another package will fail after that.
[09:49] <kraut> unop_: is it possible to recover the template-files from dpkg of another machine?
[09:49] <nanobug> tux97:  did it mount for you?
[09:49] <tux97> hold on
[09:49] <nanobug> k
[09:50] <tux97> nope
[09:50] <nanobug> hmmm
[09:50] <nanobug> what is the error that it gave you
[09:50] <nanobug> same?
[09:51] <tux97> sudo smbmount //192.168.1.102/Music /media/music -o username=tux,password=password
[09:51] <tux97> what i did
[09:51] <unop__> kraut, i'm not sure, i've never tried -- but i think it's crucial to try and debug the script and get to the source of the problem -- if i understand this german right -- does the error say there was an error unpacking the .deb file?
[09:52] <kraut> unop_: no, with processing the postinst script. it gaves an error 1 back.
[09:52] <tux97> Could not resolve mount point /media/music
[09:52] <nanobug> that means that you need to make the folder in media to mount it to
[09:52] <nanobug> sudo mkdir /media/music
[09:53] <unop__> kraut, - this is the same error right - http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=de|en
[09:53] <unop__> kraut, ohh crap --sorry
[09:53] <omar_> unop: Thank you very very much, my system is now being upgraded to Hardy Heron, and I hope this is going to fix everything. :)
[09:53] <kraut> unop_: wait
[09:53] <cinta> core lehy knln g?
[09:54] <omar_> unop: Thank you again. :)
[09:54] <unop__> kraut, this one - http://pastebin.com/m657d38f2
[09:54] <unop__> omar_, i hope your problem is fixed and you upgrade all in one -- good luck :)
[09:54] <tux97> ok nanobug i forgot what i did make sorry
[09:54] <kraut> unop_: http://pastebin.com/m43db4316
[09:55] <tux97> mounted now nanobug now what
[09:55] <nanobug> do you want it to auto-mount every time you boot up?
[09:56] <gan_> ubiquity is making problem
[09:56] <tux97> sure why not :)
[09:56] <nanobug> ok do me a favor
[09:57] <nanobug> copy and paste what you used to mount but change your username and password to something generic
[09:57] <kadakas> heelp! My Logitech V470 bluetooth mouse keeps disconnecting from my ubuntu 7.10 if i dont use the mouse for 5minutes or more!?!? How can i fix this?
[09:57] <nanobug> actually
[09:57] <tux97> sudo smbmount //192.168.1.102/Music /media/music -o username=tux,password=password
[09:57] <nanobug> ok
[09:58] <nanobug> do this: sudo nano /root/.credentials
[09:58] <nanobug> inside the file, add these two lines
[09:58] <nanobug> username=tux
[09:58] <nanobug> password=password
[09:58] <unop__> kraut, very strange -- have you tried adding "set -x" to  /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.postinst ?
[09:58] <nanobug> then hit ctrl-O to save and exit
[09:59] <nanobug> then
[09:59] <bullgard4> "apt-cache showpkg pm-utils; Package: pm-utils. Reverse Depends:  kpowersave,pm-utils". What does 'Reverse Depends' mean?
[09:59] <nanobug> sudo chmod 600 /root/.credentials
[09:59] <kraut> unop__: sure
[09:59] <kraut> unop__: but at the point frontend starts with $1 on that script, i see nothing
[09:59] <gan_> ubiquity is making problem
[09:59] <nanobug> let me know when you're done with that
[09:59] <unop__> bullgard4, it means kpowersave depends on this package
[09:59] <hyakuhei> hmmm, when aptitude lists packages, 'i'=installed, 'p'=package (not installed), what does 'c' mean ?
[09:59] <tux97> ok done
[10:00] <grub> if i do have the backports repo added in my sources.list along with other repos, i shouldnt have any problems, right?
[10:00] <nanobug> ok
[10:00] <nanobug> now you want to do this:
[10:00] <robby_kane> hay im trying to install vmware tools can enyone help me out
[10:00] <bullgard4> unop__: What do you mean by 'this'?
[10:00] <nanobug> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:00] <unop__> kraut, if you are making reference to "set -x" -- it can be added anywhere in the script -- preferably at line #2 just after the shebang
[10:01] <nanobug> add this line:
[10:01] <unop__> bullgard4, this here is pm-utils  -- kpowersave depends on pm-utils thus kpowersave is a reverse-dependant of pm-utils
[10:01] <robby_kane> i have vmwate tools on the vm but not on the host (ubuntu 7.10) how do i install it lol :P
[10:02] <nanobug> //192.168.1.102/Music /media/music   smbfs   auto,credentials=/root/,credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[10:02] <nanobug> then ctrl-O to write out and exit
[10:02] <nanobug> when you reboot it will auto-mount
[10:02] <unop__> hyakuhei, it means the package was most likely removed but it's configuration files have been left behing for when (and if) you reinstall the package
[10:02] <robby_kane> realy?
[10:02] <tux97> ok nanobug ty
[10:02] <robby_kane> thats sweet
[10:02] <tux97> brb
[10:03] <nanobug> you're welcome
[10:03] <hyakuhei> unop__, thanks
[10:03] <nanobug> to access the music just open your media player of choice and tell it to build your library from /media/music
[10:03] <kraut> unop__: nothing usefull
[10:03] <nanobug> what media player do you use?
[10:03] <grub> if i do have the backports repo added in my sources.list along with other repos, i shouldnt have any problems, right?
[10:04] <d3vt4r> hello room
[10:04] <robby_kane> still want o know how to ass vmware tools to ubuntu 7.1 gutsy thats the host lol XD
[10:04] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi, I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I want to make my kubuntu as insecure as possible.
[10:04] <unop__> kraut, you could try the guys in #debian -- they helped me through something similar once -- i'm lost with this one
[10:04] <kraut> unop__: http://pastebin.com/m6aca4351
[10:04] <kraut> that's also interesting
[10:04] <Ar-Pharazon> Well, not exactly as possible, but much less secure at any rate.
[10:04] <d3vt4r> how would one get their application in the debian/ubuntu software repository?
[10:05] <kraut> unop__: i think it's more painless to reinstall then to hang around with debian-guys.
[10:05] <d3vt4r> anyone?
[10:05] <Cowlol> Hey, is there something like the migration assistant but for the alternate CD?
[10:05] <robby_kane> cose i have to have the shared folder to install firefox cose i have a lite ver. of xp that dosent have iexplorer lol :(
[10:05] <Johnny_5> Ar-Pharazon: y the hex0r would u want to do that?
[10:05] <d3vt4r> im already working on the gentoo ebuild, but i have no idea how to get my app downloadable with Synaptic
[10:05] <d3vt4r> or apt-get
[10:05] <unop__> kraut, actually you could try this -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf   (and select the ncurses interface)
[10:06] <waylandbill> d3vt4r: MOTU has a list of requested applications for addition.
[10:06] <Johnny_5> Ar-Pharazon: just curious
[10:06] <kraut> unop__: root@kaya:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf
[10:06] <kraut> root@kaya:~#
[10:06] <d3vt4r> waylandbill: MOTU?
[10:06] <robby_kane> #vmware
[10:06] <robby_kane> oops
[10:06] <Ar-Pharazon> johny_5: Well, I don't have anything worth securing on this laptop and I seriously don't care how bad it's f'ed up so I figure why bother with all the login screens and confirmations and what not?
[10:06] <waylandbill> !motu
[10:06] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[10:06] <d3vt4r> !motu
[10:06] <d3vt4r> lol,sry
[10:07] <bullgard4> unop__: Is your sentence: "kpowersave depends on pm-utils thus kpowersave is a reverse-dependant of pm-utils" true? I cannot see that this is logical.
[10:07] <UateC_> lol
[10:07] <unop__> kraut, you weren't prompted for anything at all?
[10:07] <kraut> unop__: nope
[10:07] <UateC_> i like how vista requires like 512meg of ram minimum
[10:07] <nhannt_> ls
[10:07] <reza_20> i a m irani
[10:07] <Johnny_5> ah...
[10:07] <UateC_> but i'm running ubuntu in parallels and it's using up less ram than outlook
[10:07] <d3vt4r> masters of the universe, damn u guys sure have a knack for names
[10:07] <Ar-Pharazon> Johnny_5: It's like wearing a crash helmet when you go for a walk.
[10:07] <Johnny_5> heh
[10:07] <waylandbill> d3vt4r: yes. I thought it was cute when I first saw it. :-D
[10:08] <tux97> nanobug i see it but having probs to connect to it since i'm using wifi
[10:08] <Johnny_5> better safe than sorry i always say
[10:08] <Ar-Pharazon> Johnny_5: Uh... O_o
[10:08] <unop__> kraut, sheesh, sounds like a debconf problem -- try reinstalling it -- I have a feeling it might solve the problem, it certainly looks to be it now -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall debconf
[10:08] <nanobug> hmmmm
[10:08] <nanobug> what kind of problems?
[10:08] <robby_kane> the people at #vmware arnt responding lol i think thay r all away from keybord :(
[10:09] <waylandbill> Ar-Pharazon: crash helmet during a walk. Depends on the size of the city. ;-)
[10:09] <unop__> bullgard4, why is that illogical -- it certainly makes sense -- if someone depends on me, they are reverse-dependants to me
[10:09] <tux97> says opening music and just siting there
[10:09] <Oli```> Ar-Pharazon: I see your want to do something like that but where does the current security model get in your way? What of the current set up is bothering you?
[10:09] <nanobug> if its mounting okay i'm really not sure what the problem is
[10:10] <nanobug> sorry :/
[10:10] <benplaut> Q: i haven't used linux since the time when ATi drivers really sucked (before they supported aiglx).  Do they still really suck?
[10:10] <tux97> its just siting there and looks like it doesn't want to open up
[10:10] <robby_kane> anyone here use vmware?
[10:11] <nanobug> benplaut: depends on what card you're using really
[10:11] <_cc_ho_> ?
[10:11] <benplaut> x1400... not supported by the open source drivers afaik
[10:11] <Ar-Pharazon> Oli```: It's not *that* big of a bother really. If it was I wouldn't be using Linux at all. But the login screen, the wifi password wallet nag thing, the you sure you want to install this dialogs, the you can't access these drives and these folders you dumb n00b hurdles are things I can think of from the top of my head.
[10:11] <Johnny_5> Ar-Pharazon: i don't know how 1 would do that...all i can tell u is don't bother with security updates, and don't tell ur screensaver 2 lock whenever it comes on...
[10:12] <bullgard4> unop__:  To me makes the following sense: "If someone depends on me, then he is a dependant on me. Not a reverse-dependant."
[10:13] <robby_kane> anyone use vmware?
[10:13] <waylandbill> unop__: if they depend on you, they are a dependent. You would be the provider.
[10:13] <Oli```> Ar-Pharazon: auto-login can be done. keyring cannot currently be set at no password. You *could* add yourself to the root group but I think that might stop you logging in. You can give yourself a blank password but that will break the current keyring manager. Give yourself a (1-3 char) short password is my best idea.
[10:15] <tbf> how can i tell aptitude to update just one single archive?
[10:15] <BurningPanda> hello! Im having some trouble with my graf card... can anuone help me in finding the right drivers?. Heres my computer info - http://pastebin.com/m60b3d0b3
[10:15] <tux97> nanobug can i comment out the last line in the second file to see if that helps?
[10:15] <Ar-Pharazon> Oli```: Here's one example case: I just installed Nero, I run it, it gives me a dialog box that says /dev/sg0 is not accessible because I don't have the permissions... I mean, I have zero problem with giving everybody permissions for everything. Yes, I realize what that means. I don't care.
[10:15] <nanobug> you mean comment that line in /etc/fstab that i gave you?
[10:16] <tux97> yea
[10:16] <nanobug> fstab is the file that your computer looks at on bootup to know what filesystems to mount
[10:16] <Ar-Pharazon> Oli```: I know about the auto login, and I did see a HOWTO on getting rid of the wifi password thing but couldn't get it to work... Which brings me to my problem, can't I just disable all the security stuff from someplace? It's gonna be even more of hassle to set things up one by one.
[10:16] <nanobug> commenting that out will stop it from automounting
[10:16] <nanobug> were you able to access the music before adding it to there and rebooting?
[10:16] <tux97> ok
[10:16] <BurningPanda> hello! Im having some trouble with my graf card... can anuone help me in finding the right drivers?. Heres my computer info - http://pastebin.com/m60b3d0b3
[10:17] <reala> can anyone help me setting up portfowarding in ubuntu to use with utorrent in wine ?
[10:17] <nanobug> cause if thats the case, then just mounting it manually may be your better option
[10:17] <tux97> yes when i added it and rebooted just stalled and wouldn't let me so i commented it out and did the sudo mount u gave me and it worked
[10:18] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: debian/sid? brave soul. :-D
[10:18] <nanobug> ok are you booting into a gnome desktop?
[10:18] <tux97> yes
[10:18] <nanobug> System > Preferences > Sessions
[10:18] <BurningPanda> didnt understand  the joke wayland ?
[10:18] <nanobug> add the mount line to there
[10:18] <nanobug> sudo smbmount //192.168.1.102/Music /media/music -o username=tux,password=password
[10:19] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: what generated that list? usually you would want to 'lspci' to find the video card type.
[10:19] <nanobug> that way it will just happen when you get to your desktop
[10:19] <reala> can anyone help me setting up portfowarding in ubuntu to use with utorrent in wine or link me to a tutorial, not having much luck ?
[10:19] <BurningPanda> ah. it trough a game thing i got.
[10:19] <BurningPanda> i can generate another if you give me the command :)
[10:20] <egoleo> i have installed ubuntu server version
[10:20] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: debian/sid is unstable and can break without warning. I'm not that brave.
[10:20] <egoleo> and i have more than 1 processor
[10:20] <nanobug> reala: install firestarter and use that, it's fairly straightforward
[10:20] <egoleo> will my system make use of all processors by default?
[10:20] <reala> thanks nanobug
[10:20] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: in a terminal, just execute: lspci
[10:20] <BurningPanda> debian/sid the drivers im suosed to use?
[10:21] <nanobug> you're welcome
[10:21] <nanobug> you can find it in add/remove programs or just sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:21] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: it must be the program you used to generate that report. Debian/Sid is a version of the Debian distro.
[10:21] <nanobug> if you run into any problems from there just let me know i'll help you out
[10:21] <BurningPanda> http://pastebin.com/m5b431667
[10:21] <reala> yeah i've learnt to use sudo apt-get install for everything, only command i can remember off by heart so far :)
[10:21] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: obviously, if you're not running Debian, the program's output is not very useful.
[10:22] <BurningPanda> im on ubuntu.
[10:22] <BurningPanda> but the program is a cedega invention....
[10:22] <BurningPanda> but dont mind. just help me finding the right drivers for my graf card :)
[10:22] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: I figured you were on ubuntu or you wouldn't be here. :-D
[10:23] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: ATI Technologies Inc R420 [Radeon X800]
[10:23] <tux97> nanobug ty
[10:23] <tux97> nanobug whats ur media player?
[10:23] <bertvdp> hi, a quick and quite dumb question: what do I have to press to move something only vertically or only horizontaly in the gimp?
[10:23] <waylandbill> BurningPanda: the ubuntu website has pages to help with ATI drivers.
[10:23] <waylandbill> !ati
[10:23] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <BurningPanda> rgr. aking a look
[10:24] <BurningPanda> thanks so far.
[10:24] <neztit1> guys anyone can hejp gere???? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60274/
[10:24] <nanobug> tux97: I use exaile on linux
[10:24] <nanobug> wmp on windows
[10:24] <tux97> k
[10:25] <BurningPanda> jeeezzzz
[10:25] <BurningPanda> that vas easy :)
[10:25] <BurningPanda> *w
[10:25] <BurningPanda> wheni enable the restricted driver it should be ok, right?
[10:26] <tux97> nanobug ty
[10:26] <nanobug> ty
[10:26] <BurningPanda> or must i update the driver somehow.
[10:26] <BurningPanda> a shit. gotto go for a while.
[10:27] <BurningPanda> be right bacvk
[10:27] <neztit1> guys anyone can hejp gere???? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60274/
[10:27] <icesword> compiling what
[10:27] <Draggin> Hello again - I have a new question.  If I have an existing Ubuntu installation that is totally broken and I install the same version of Ubuntu into the same partitions, will it keep the files that are already there in tact?
[10:28] <tux97> so nanobug can i put music on the voulume i mounted or do i have to go to conect to server to do it?
[10:28] <moslim> yes u can
[10:28] <newbie291> Does Ubuntu use Gparted during the installation?
[10:29] <moslim> of course
[10:29] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> is true that today canonical would release the beta of hardy heron?
[10:29] <icesword> Draggin, depends if you have a /home partition
[10:29] <newbie291> I mean the partition manager we see during the installation of Ubuntu is Gaprted?
[10:29] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> is true that today canonical would release the beta of hardy heron today?
[10:29] <moslim> yeh
[10:29] <jokerjr> how do i make different workspace have different background
[10:29] <nanobug> ummm
[10:29] <zmatt> jokerjr: what DM ?
[10:30] <jokerjr> ?
[10:30] <Draggin> icesword - do you mean an entirely separate partition for the home folder?
[10:30] <icesword> yes
[10:30] <nanobug> well you would have to give your samba user read/write permissions for that folder
[10:30] <waylandbill> Draggin: if you only have a single / partition, I'd suggest backing your data up, like to a cdr or dvdr.
[10:30] <jokerjr> i would like to make diff workspace have different background
[10:30] <nanobug> System > Administration > Shared folders
[10:30] <nanobug> on the computer that has the folder, of course
[10:30] <icesword> if you want to reinstall ,format the whole / partition
[10:30] <jokerjr> is it possible?
[10:31] <Draggin> icesword... I don't think I set it up like that... If I remember correctly, I set up a separate boot, root and swap partition, but that's it.  I believe my home folder is in the root partition
[10:31] <icesword> Draggin, i am afraid you d to format /
[10:31] <nanobug> if it's listed in there, which it should be, make sure that there isn't a check in the properties under read only
[10:31] <Draggin> Darnit...
[10:32] <icesword> not damn it,if you dont want mess up
[10:32] <Draggin> Hehe, true...
[10:32] <tux97> ok nanobug ty
[10:32] <nanobug> if you're all clear there
[10:33] <Draggin> Will I be able to write to DVD while booted up in the live CD?  I have a separate DVD Writer (which is not the drive the live cd is in)
[10:33] <ash_>  /msg NickServ@services.dal.net IDENTIFY 123456
[10:33] <nanobug> then as long as you don't mount it read only
[10:33] <nanobug> you should be able to write to it
[10:33] <waylandbill> Draggin: sure. as long as its a seperate drive.
[10:33] <jokerjr> how do i make different workspace have different background
[10:33] <Draggin> waylandbill - thanks
[10:33] <Draggin> Think I'll just need to do that then...
[10:34] <Draggin> *sigh* It's good to learn new things, but it takes so much time... This is the first time I've completely, irreparably destroyed my Linux installation :)
[10:34] <nanobug> Draggin: the nice thing about major screw ups is you tend to learn more from them
[10:34] <waylandbill> Draggin: after you format and re-partition, it'd be best to make a seperate /home partition. :-
[10:34] <waylandbill> :-D
[10:34] <icesword> Draggin, how did it happen
[10:35] <Draggin> waylandbill, yes, I now see how that can be extremely useful.  When I initially installed it, I didn't see the point in having a separate partition for the home folder
[10:35] <nanobug> major screw ups are why i recommend to ALL new users that if you really want to get your hands dirty you should buy an old computer on craigslist for cheap to install linux on
[10:35] <nanobug> that way you don't bork any important stuff on your windows install in the process
[10:35] <waylandbill> Draggin: i think it is more important to have a separate /home than a separate /boot.
[10:35] <Draggin> icesword - graphics driver.  I tried getting rid of it which threw me out of X, and then I started mucking around with aptitude, which caused the utter destruction :)
[10:36] <jokerjr> heyy there is something wrong with my recycle bin. files that i put in it just disappear. Could someone help me
[10:36] <waylandbill> nanobug: or if they are currently using windows, vmware or virtualbox is a good alternative.
[10:36] <Draggin> waylandbill - yet a separate boot is useful too, isn't it?
[10:36] <icesword> hmm.,messed
[10:36] <nanobug> waylandbill: yes, that is a good alternative as well.  although a bit more limited
[10:36] <jokerjr> is there a prob with my settings.
[10:36] <adac> how to create a bootable disk from loose files (not an image) with k3b? any ideas?
[10:36] <icesword> i think it depends on how many systems you have
[10:37] <jokerjr> i am new with linux
[10:37] <waylandbill> Draggin: it used to be when the bios can not boot from a large capacity partition. This is uncommon these days.
[10:37] <Draggin> icesword - yip... I don't think I would have caused as much destruction as I had if I could only have figured out how to properly select things in aptitude.  I think I ended up uninstalling pretty much everything except the kernel :D
[10:37] <icesword> adac, what you want ,a linux or win cd?
[10:38] <nanobug> k i need to get some coffee and some frozen peas
[10:38] <Draggin> waylandbill - but isn't there some other reason too... Something like - if the rest of your file systems become corrupt or unreachable, you can still at least get to the boot files to try and repair things?
[10:38] <nanobug> the advantage of a boot partition is that you can install multiple kernels independent from the rest of the filesystem
[10:39] <adac> icesword: shoud be a boot cd for a bios update...
[10:39] <joinubuntu> hello
[10:39] <jokerjr> heyy there is something wrong with my recycle bin. files that i put in it just disappear. Could someone help me
[10:39] <icesword> adac, do yo know it is dangerous?
[10:39] <nanobug> nice for if you're compiling particularly troublesome modules into the kernel
[10:39] <waylandbill> Draggin: I'm not sure of that. I would just use the LiveCD to recover. Even if you could get up from a boot partition, most tools are not located there anyway.
[10:39] <jokerjr> :(......
[10:39] <icesword> adac, and you followed the mainboard website 's guide
[10:39] <nanobug> for most users, and at the risk of sounding prejudicial, the ubuntu crowd especially, a separate boot partition is really unnecessary
[10:40] <adac> icesword: well I know. It is a update on the acer websirte for the mainbord
[10:40] <nanobug> the separate /home partition is recommended though, so you can hold on to downloads, bookmarks, config files in the event of a need to reformat
[10:40] <Draggin> waylandbill... That's true.  Thanks for the advice.  By the way - how big would you recommend one makes the home partition?
[10:40] <adac> icesword: but i have no floppy so i need to do this over a cd
[10:40] <icesword> adac, you need to follow the guide carefully,also remember backup
[10:41] <nanobug> Draggin: your root partition should be fine with 15 gigs, even 10 unless you plan on installing half the repository
[10:41] <waylandbill> Draggin: I made my / 10 GB, but could have been smaller. I made the /home the remainder of the space.
[10:42] <Draggin> okay, I intend to install quite a lot of software though...
[10:42] <nanobug> home should be whatever you can spare and feel you will need for the equivalent of your "my documents" folder on windows
[10:42] <adac> icesword: this is what the guide says: http://pastebin.com/m30004dbe
[10:42] <adac> icesword: but i have no floppy so I wanted to do that over a cd
[10:43] <waylandbill> yeah. home should big enough to hold the data you plan on using. I do gis software development, so I needed very large home in comparison to the root.
[10:43] <red_one> why can i only see an application when it's maximised? and 'move' doesn't work at all
[10:44] <icesword> adac, as it says,you need to create a bootable cd like it said dos
[10:44] <adac> icesword: yea..but when i extract the archive with the updatee there are only loose files on it as I told you
[10:44] <icesword> adac, you need a dos cd,then extract zip to that cd
[10:45] <kbkang> hi everyone
[10:45] <rebelThor> hello, i'm using the latest Hardy and 2.6.24-12-generic but no sound, wasn't that problem fixed when hardy started using this kernel?
[10:45] <waylandbill> adac: you could burn it to a freedos disk which would be bootable. If you need dos and don't have it.
[10:45] <Doublenoob> I'm having problems installing my graphics card, every time i run install.sh in the terminal it says "could not locate pkginfo file. aborting," even though i can locate it with ease.
[10:45] <icesword> adac, see,that it said there is a p.bat,you need to run it in dos environment
[10:45] <adac> icesword: oh i see now...i need the dos environment on the cd
[10:46] <Draggin> Thanks for all the help guys
[10:46] <adac> icesword: but how to create such a cd?
[10:46] <icesword> adac, that is right,just download like dos.iso and burn it to the cd
[10:46] <waylandbill> adac: look into the freedos project.
[10:46] <adac> an then add the data?
[10:47] <ting_> hi everybody
[10:47] <icesword> adac, yes,the you said loose file to the cd
[10:47] <icesword> adac, you must carefully follow the guide there
[10:48] <adac> icesword: ok i try to be carefully
[10:48] <adac> thx for your help
[10:48] <icesword> nope
[10:48] <nanobug> man im gonna kick my friend in the balls when i see him
[10:48] <Pendeta> If you are downloading a large new package, and you you need to stop the download for some reason, will the download have to be restarted from the beginning? or will it restart from where you left off?
[10:48] <nanobug> i had a vasectomy yesterday afternoon.  my friend told me it doesn't hurt that bad.  he's a damn liar.
[10:49] <ting_> i would like to know if i can set a shortcut key to load an application like windows (Alt + Ctrl + Key)
[10:49] <waylandbill> Pendeta: apt can resume partial downloads. They are kept in /var/cache/apt.
[10:49] <Sinnerman> waylandbill: just to take up from Pendeta's question, is that the default behaviour? what if you're using synaptic?
[10:49] <nanobug> ting_: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:50] <unop__> Pendeta, it depends what application is downloading the file
[10:50] <ting_> ummm thanks, i am new in linux
[10:50] <ting_> thanks nanobug
[10:50] <nanobug> ting_: no problem, friend
[10:50] <waylandbill> Sinnerman: since synpatic is a front-end to apt, then yes. As well as apt-get, aptitude, adept, etc.
[10:50] <unop__> Sinnerman, apt/synaptic have resumes
[10:50] <Pendeta> I'm using aptitude.
[10:50] <waylandbill> Sinnerman: and it is the default behavior.
[10:51] <Sinnerman> unop__, waylandbill: brilliant. thanks.
[10:51] <unop__> Pendeta, that too
[10:51] <waylandbill> Pendeta: aptitude is also an apt front-end. It will resume as well.
[10:51] <ddalton> ok can the ubuntu installer resize my windows partition? Do I just need to defrag? Like do I have to resize my win partition before running the ubuntu installer?  I'm wanting to set up a dual booting windows/linux box.
[10:52] <Pendeta> Ok, all you guys, many thanks!
[10:52] <unop__> ddalton, it's better to have the partition setup before starting the ubuntu installer
[10:52] <kbkang> guys, i'm going crazy ^_^ is there anyone who can help me installing Nvidia drivers? thanks people^^
[10:52] <waylandbill> ddalton: you can do it before hand. GPartEd Live CD works well for doing so.
[10:53] <cuong> cuong
[10:53] <unop__> ddalton, i've had the ubuntu CD cras on me several times -- especially when manipulating the disk -- and it's not a comfy feeling when that happens, if you know what i mean
[10:53] <icesword> icesword
[10:53] <Draggin> Thanks again everyone.  See you later!
[10:53] <cuong> hi
[10:53] <ddalton> unop__: Could you please pm me or join ##ddalton since I'm blind and this channel of 1000 people is impossible to follow reading braille...
[10:53] <icesword> ih
[10:53] <blue-frog> ting_: install a program called keytouch, it should do what you want to do
[10:53] <tux97> nanobug thank you for your help ttyl night
[10:54] <nanobug> tux97: you're welcome, nice talking to you :)
[10:54] <nanobug> goodnight
[10:54] <tux97> ttys bye
[10:54] <Doublenoob> I try to install my graphics card by running install.sh in the terminal but it says "could not locate pkginfo file" even though i can locate it. Can somebody help me with this?
[10:54] <ddalton> can someone familiar with dual booting please join ##ddalton?
[10:55] <unop__> ddalton, i'm there
[10:57] <zyclop> I have a dual head setup with Big-Desktop (aticonfig). It works in Gnome, but not in Fluxbox.
[10:57] <KemrinH> Hey everyone
[10:57] <ting_> thanks blue-frog, yes i am gonna do it
[10:58] <TheDarkBGM> hello
[10:58] <KemrinH> I've got a Gigaware CIF Single Chip USB camera; and I'm trying to figure out how to use it.
[10:59] <Finnish> Aargh
[10:59] <KemrinH> Suggestions?
[10:59] <blue-frog> ting_: if you like to leave dangerously, you can even try that: http://www.mylot.com/nr/viewframe.aspx?id=199002&url=http%3a%2f%2flifehacker.com%2fsoftware%2fhow-to%2fconfigure-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-on-ubuntu-256955.php&type=Blog
[10:59] <Finnish> I still don't know how to exactly manually partition my laptop HD during Ubuntu installation
[10:59] <blue-frog> s/leave/live
[11:00] <TheDarkBGM> can some 1 tell me if there is a cpu temperature moniter for ununity some where hidden away
[11:00] <zyclop> TheDarkBGM, gkrellm, I think
[11:00] <Finnish> What file type must I choose for Ubuntu?
[11:00] <Doublenoob> I try to install my graphics card by running install.sh in the terminal but it says "could not locate pkginfo file" even though i can locate it. Can somebody help me with this?
[11:00] <KemrinH> ext3
[11:01] <waylandbill> Doublenoob: where'd you get the install.sh from?
[11:01] <Finnish> Ok. And I mount the new ext3-partition to "/"?
[11:01] <ting_> thanks blue-frog, i am trying the keytouch but i think that i am gonna stick with the second option
[11:01] <Doublenoob> I got it from Intel's website.
[11:02] <KemrinH> Finnish, have one partition of 100-500mb in swap format. Have two more in ext3, one should be around 5000mb, and be mounted to /, the other should be the rest of your free space, and be mounted to /home
[11:02] <KemrinH> does that help?
[11:02] <waylandbill> did it come with a way to checksum it to make sure it downloaded okay?
[11:02] <ting_> blue-frog: do  you know how i can set the icon size for the desktop ?? because i am tired  to strech the icon manually
[11:02] <TheDarkBGM> im new to linux how do i use gkrellm?
[11:02] <blue-frog> ting_: don't know
[11:03] <Finnish> Aargh, that exceeds the partition number amount
[11:03] <zyclop> TheDarkBGM, have you installed it?
[11:03] <ting_> thanks any way, i appreciate your help
[11:03] <icesword> TheDarkBGM, in terminal,run gkrellm?
[11:03] <burken_> can i access a win network from the livecd?
[11:03] <KemrinH> Hey, I have a CIF Single chip webcam; it doesn't seem to work. I don't have experience with webcames, were should I start?
[11:03] <technolab> I want to create a local hots web saver in my pc
[11:03] <Finnish> Right now mylaptop shows 3 partiotions
[11:03] <zyclop> TheDarkBGM, if not, use synaptic to install it, then search for it in the menu
[11:03] <blblme> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:04] <waylandbill> Finnish: if you need more than 4 partitions, you need to make an extended partition to house the others.
[11:04] <blue-frog> ting_: the gconf editor thing for shortcuts is quite easy to follow oin fact
[11:04] <KemrinH> Why would you need more than 4? What are you doing to your hard disk Finnish?
[11:04] <KemrinH> unless...
[11:04] <zyclop> KemrinH, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/USB-Digital-Camera-HOWTO.html
[11:04] <Finnish> I wan't my Ubuntu on top of windows
[11:04] <KemrinH> a triple boot would be pretty cool ^_^
[11:05] <KemrinH> Oh, thanks zyclop.
[11:05] <Finnish> And right now windows has created 3 partitions for itself
[11:05] <TheDarkBGM> ok
[11:05] <zyclop> KemrinH, GIYF
[11:05] <TheDarkBGM> no i havnt installed it
[11:05] <zyclop> ^^
[11:05] <KemrinH> What windows system needs 3 partitions?
[11:05] <TheDarkBGM> im now stuck at the partitions section of the install
[11:05] <KemrinH> Windows naturally exists in 1...
[11:05] <TheDarkBGM> im using a raid 0 array
[11:06] <Finnish> hda1 is 5gb, hda2 50gb and hda3 50gb
[11:06] <Finnish> Windows has C-drive and D-drive
[11:07] <TheDarkBGM> how can i select the whole array as my partition?
[11:07] <Finnish> D-drive is a storage-drive
[11:07]  * Tm_T slaps Finnish 
[11:07] <Finnish> Aargh
[11:07] <burken_> do i need a guest account for LAN to woRK?
[11:07] <ting_> yes blue-frog, the config was the solution that i was looking for
[11:07] <ting_> the touchkey program is not was i was looking for
[11:08] <ddalton> ok is it fine to use ntfsresize from the cli in a ubuntu livecd?
[11:08] <zyclop> burken_, define LAN working
[11:09] <KemrinH> I'm back. Finnish, I don't understand why windows needs a storage partition. Why doesn't your windows exist in a single partition like a normal windows?
[11:09] <burken_> zyclop: i nwant to have access to my ubuntu computer from my win xp computer..
[11:09] <chenhuahui> kjjjj
[11:09] <KemrinH> If the answer is "for no reason" then you should change is so that it has only the one partition; and spend the other three on linux, which naturally exists in 2-3 partitions.
[11:09] <Finnish> KemrinH: Yeah, it's kinda stupid, but that's how it is in that laptop
[11:10] <zyclop> burken_, access via SSH? FTP? Sharing an internet connection?
[11:10] <KemrinH> Well, I recommend formating and rebuilding that structure then. The formating isn't nessasary I just always suggest it.
[11:10] <Doublenoob> waylandbill: I got it from Intel's website and the graphics adapter is an Intel 82852/855GME.
[11:10] <nanobug> having a storage partition on windows isn't a bad idea
[11:11] <Juhaz> it's a very good idea
[11:11] <steven_> hi, i'm having some problem uninstalling a package, when i do sudo apt-get remove wicd it complains about /opt not beeing deletable
[11:11] <nanobug> better to have one from the start than need one when you need to reformat and reinstall because of eventual windows slowdown
[11:11] <TheDarkBGM> how do u select a whole partion from the installaton of ubuntu?
[11:11] <KemrinH> You should format, reinstall windows in a 5Gb partition; then install linux with a 5gb / partition, a 500mb swap, and the rest in a /home partition; which you can download a windows program to make windows see it to, and use that as storage from both OS
[11:11] <steven_> i tried with sudo rm -r /opt but nothing to do...
[11:11] <nanobug> reinstall windows in a 5gb partition?
[11:11] <nanobug> lol
[11:11] <nanobug> what version of windows?
[11:12] <nanobug> 98?
[11:12] <KemrinH> XP
[11:12] <nanobug> xp needs more than 5gb
[11:12] <eifzon> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and the restricted driver for graphic card, I also rebooted and its say its working but how do I change the resolution?
[11:12] <KemrinH> No it doesn't
[11:12] <nanobug> unless you like running w/o a swap file and any programs
[11:12] <burken> zyclop: sorry my laptop battery went down
[11:12] <nanobug> and xp uses the swap file a lot
[11:12] <KemrinH> I installed all programs to my /home directory
[11:12] <icesword> xp embeded,or optimized.whatever you call it
[11:12] <nanobug> yes, it does KemrinH.
[11:13] <zyclop> burken, so, how exactly do you want to acces your ubuntu PC?
[11:13] <Dejai_> irc.hack5irc.org
[11:13] <burken> zyclop: i want to reach the shared folders on my xp system from my ubuntu system..
[11:13] <Finnish> I'll just go to windows and delete the extra-partition
[11:13] <eifzon> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and the restricted driver for graphic card, I also rebooted and its say its working but how do I change the resolution?
[11:13] <zyclop> burken, that looks like a job for samba
[11:13] <KemrinH> No, not for it's root systems. Extra programs and stuff take up room; but if you keep them in your ext3 /home directory, then you only need basically room for your WINDOWS folder
[11:13] <dbmoodb> hi is any one aware of an initrd bug where ubuntu will reboot ...
[11:13] <dbmoodb> and continue to do so...
[11:13] <KemrinH> Good plan Finnish'
[11:14] <zyclop> burken, I'll search for howtos.
[11:14] <ikonia> dbmoodb: why do you think thats initrd ?
[11:14] <burken> zyclop: ok =) does samba need me to have a guest account on ubuntu?
[11:14] <nanobug> you would need to install windows then install the ext3 driver in windows to write all programs to a folder on the /home partition
[11:14] <dbmoodb> well its not the mbr ...
[11:14] <nanobug> and then every time you install a program you would need to change the directory it installs to
[11:14] <zyclop> burken, afaik not.
[11:14] <dbmoodb> as far as i know
[11:14] <zyclop> burken, and: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[11:14] <ikonia> dbmoodb: what happens.....exlecty
[11:14] <ikonia> exactly
[11:14] <nanobug> a major pain in the butt for what amounts to little benefit
[11:14] <KemrinH> I know it works because I worked my system like that for months before moving fully into linux. My friends system is still like that. I format and set it back up when she destroys it; and it always works. Yeah, the ext3 driver is on a CD in my drawr
[11:15] <burken> zyclop: ok thanks really!
[11:15] <nanobug> better to just let windows be windows and let linux be linux.
[11:15] <zyclop> burken, np
[11:15] <steven_> how to remove /opt? sudo rm -r /opt says "access denied"
[11:15] <nanobug> ever hear of the kiss philosophy?
[11:15] <ikonia> KemrinH: just because it works for you does not mean "it works" the ext3 driver on windows can cause corruption
[11:15] <nanobug> keep it simple.  overcomplicating things for no particular reason is never a good idea.
[11:15] <jogis> hi i got question how to configure fluxbox?
[11:15] <ikonia> steven_: is anything using /opt
[11:16] <eifzon> Anyone know?
[11:16] <zyclop> jogis, what do you want to configure?
[11:16] <ikonia> steven_: eg: any open files etc
[11:16] <ikonia> eifzon: know what ?
[11:16] <KemrinH> It never caused me any trouble. I guess sometimes it might do something, I'm not a programmer. But I'm talking from months of experience, it didn't trouble me as a common user.
[11:16] <dbmoodb> i am not sure -- talking to a user today ikonia
[11:16] <eifzon> ikonia: i wrote it
[11:16] <eifzon> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and the restricted driver for graphic card, I also rebooted and its say its working but how do I change the resolution?
[11:16] <ikonia> dbmoodb: thats ok, so what actually happens exactly
[11:16] <steven_> ikonia: i don't remember the command to see who is using files, i'm fixing a pc (not mine) it just boots to textual interface
[11:16] <jogis> i install fluxbox and no menu... in right mouse button :|
[11:16] <Javid> eifzon, system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[11:16] <nanobug> windows does on the fly defragmentation and other optimizations that would at best be completely useless and at worst would cause file corruption
[11:16] <ikonia> eifzon: use the system --> admin --> display properies
[11:16] <ikonia> steven_: fuser or lsof
[11:16] <Javid> eifzon, what he said, ignore me
[11:17] <ikonia> Javid: no no, I think you could be right
[11:17] <nanobug> and there is really no benefit to doing what you suggest
[11:17] <zyclop> jogis, if there is no menu, you'll have to make your own
[11:17] <steven_> ikonia: nothing, no process using /opy
[11:17] <Javid> ikonia, I'm right on Feisty, you're right on Hardy, hell if I know what it is on Gutsy
[11:17] <zyclop> jogis, are you familiar with the console?
[11:17] <eifzon> hmm wierd, it said my nvidia driver was properly installed but I cant choose any resolution over 1024x768
[11:17] <dbmoodb> ikonia: apparently it boots --> grub --> kernel .... and then fails somewhere - the guy can chroot in ...and that works
[11:18] <TheDarkBGM> can i install ubuntu on a raid 0 drive o.o
[11:18] <ikonia> dbmoodb: can you tell us where it fails
[11:18] <jogis> zyclop,  yep.. i lost command to generate that menu... i dont remember it
[11:18] <burken> i get 404 not found when tryuing to get samba from repo :(
[11:18] <nanobug> in fact i would go so far as to suggest you're better off mounting a windows share as your /home folder than installing windows programs to an ext3 partition
[11:18] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: you can - but I'd advise against using a.) raid0 b.) fakeriad
[11:18] <ikonia> burken: see if the repo is running
[11:18] <ikonia> burken: as in available sorry
[11:18] <burken> ikonia: how do i do that?
[11:18] <TheDarkBGM> y sould i avoid raid 0?
[11:18] <dbmoodb> -- i will look on launchpad thank you ikonia
[11:18] <zyclop> jogis, I don't know that command either, but i have a menu file I could give you
[11:18] <ikonia> burken: browse it via http
[11:19] <burken> ikonia: ok..
[11:19] <jogis> ok send it
[11:19] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: on home kit it will give pretty much zero performance increase and provide a higher risk of consistancy problems, this risk is even bigger if you are using a fake raid chipset on your motherboard
[11:20] <tgillespie> hey all, why doesnt evolution minimise to the systray? is it just not implemented yet or has someone made the concious decision that it shouldnt?
[11:20] <TheDarkBGM> i have nvidia raid
[11:20] <ikonia> tgillespie: ask in gnome
[11:20] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: thats fakeraid
[11:20] <kbkang> I'm trying to install video drivers for my Nvidia GF FX 5700 LE, everytime i do install drivers my pc works good until reboot, then it goes blank before login, can anyone help me?
[11:20] <TheDarkBGM> its a true hardware raid
[11:20] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: no it's not
[11:20] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: nvidia is fakeraid chipsets
[11:20] <TheDarkBGM> works for windows ^.^
[11:20] <KemrinH> The benefit is that it makes a usable windows partition without wasting my space. I guess I'm thinking from the perspective of someone who only jumped over there for what I absolutly had to, during my transitional phase, and spent 96% of my time in linux though.
[11:20] <tgillespie> ikonia k thanks
[11:20] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: your not using windows and it's still fake raid
[11:20] <TheDarkBGM> ok
[11:21] <TheDarkBGM> then ive set it up as a raid
[11:21] <zyclop> jogis, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60276/
[11:21] <Javid> tgillespie, use alltray
[11:21] <burken> ikonia: the version synaptics is trying to fetch is not even in the archive :(
[11:21] <nanobug> yeah but with ntfs3g there's really no wasted space
[11:21] <KemrinH> I'm just saying, It's never caused me or my frined steph trouble, and it lets us have a "usable" windows partition during the transition.
[11:21] <TheDarkBGM> how can i install ubuntu on the full raid?
[11:21] <ikonia> burken: what package are you trying to get
[11:21] <jogis> zyclop,  thanks for the help!!! :)
[11:21] <KemrinH> wait, what's a ntfs3g?
[11:21] <zyclop> jogis, do you know how to edit the menu?
[11:21] <Slart> !ntfs-3g
[11:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:21] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: again I would advise against this very STRONGLY, but you need to look at how/if the nvidia fakeraid driver is supported under ubuntu
[11:21] <jogis> zyclop,  yes :)
[11:22] <jogis> thanks!:)
[11:22] <zyclop> jogis, then my job here is done.
[11:22] <burken> ikonia: samba_3.0.28-1ubuntu3...
[11:22] <babo_> someone is sending me word documents and they are showing up in my gmail attachments as .bin
[11:22] <nanobug> you can store things on windows partitions and you don't introduce the problems that come from installing programs somewhere other than c:\program files\
[11:22] <eifzon> om jag drar in på restricted drivers så säger NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) (enabled) in use (with green colour)
[11:22] <babo_> anyone suggest a reason for that ?
[11:22] <ikonia> burken: what version of ubuntu is that indended for
[11:22] <ikonia> !de | eifzon
[11:22] <ubotu> eifzon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:22] <burken> ikonia: hardy alpha 6..
[11:22] <jogis> zyclop,  :)
[11:22] <TheDarkBGM> well the ubuntu disk has leaded and
[11:22] <ikonia> burken: ahhh join #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <TheDarkBGM> is getting me to choose a partition
[11:22] <burken> ikonia: ok :)
[11:23] <Javid> when I'm dueling windows and linux I'll usually just give each OS 5 gigs or so then make the remaining space its own FAT partition, since both of them can use that
[11:23] <eifzon> If I go into the restricted drivers, I see it says NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) enabled and status its a green icon, how come I cannot choose the res I want?
[11:23] <steven_> ikonia: nothing, no process using /opy any ideas? i already tried with chattr..
[11:23] <TheDarkBGM> wont let me slect the whole raid only 1 drive
[11:23] <nanobug> eifzon fat is a very limited filesystem that you should avoid
[11:23] <ikonia> steven_: sorry, forgot about you, sudo rm -rf /opt
[11:23] <Javid> can even mount it in /home if you want
[11:23] <eifzon> nanobug: fat?
[11:23] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: because it can't deal with the fake raid driver
[11:23] <ani1> eifzon: install nvidia-settings
[11:23] <basti_1988> hey all
[11:23] <steven_> ikonia: that was the 1st thing i tried :P
[11:23] <TheDarkBGM> so
[11:23] <nanobug> eifzon: sorry, i read the wrong name there
[11:23] <TheDarkBGM> just install it on 1 drive?
[11:23] <ikonia> steven_: ahhh, so you've booted up
[11:24] <nanobug> Javid:  fat is a limited filesystem that you should avoid
[11:24] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: no, that will break your raid set in windows
[11:24] <nanobug> especially considering ntfs3g
[11:24] <KemrinH> I usually installed everything to L:/Program Files/ (just saying)
[11:24] <ikonia> steven_: and it's in text mode, yes /no
[11:24] <TheDarkBGM> i dont have windows on these disks
[11:24] <steven_> ikonia: yes
[11:24] <nanobug> if you never work with files larger than 4gb then it's fine
[11:24] <TheDarkBGM> there clean
[11:24] <basti_1988> I got a strange problem.....I just installed Ubuntu and somehow Im not able to change my resolution from 640x480 to something else....any suggestions what I can do?
[11:24] <ikonia> steven_: are you booting of the hard disk or the cdrom
[11:24] <steven_> ikonia: hd
[11:24] <eifzon> I got another prob to, it says that almost all fonts failed to write cache
[11:24] <Javid> nanobug, has linux NTFS support gotten to the point where it's reliable? I remember it being filed under "don't do this if you'll miss your data"
[11:24] <nanobug> but good luck ripping dvd's or backing up games
[11:24] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: ok, so in that case if you install onto 1 disk - it will break the raid set for any other os
[11:24] <nanobug> i would say ntfs3g is reliable
[11:25] <ikonia> steven_: is /opt on a seperate partition or hanging off /
[11:25] <nanobug> ive never encountered issues and ive used it for well over 2 years no
[11:25] <nanobug> now*
[11:25] <Javid> Well, then take what I said and replace FAT with ntfs
[11:25] <Doublenoob> waylandbill: I'm not trying to offend but are you not answering my question because the driver's not open source?
[11:25] <ikonia> Doublenoob: what is your question
[11:26] <Javid> I wouldn't just enlarge the windows partition though, if you decide to nuke it, less crap with moving files
[11:26] <nanobug> it's really not a good idea to limit xp or vista to a 5gb partition though.  i'm not just saying that
[11:26] <TheDarkBGM> but
[11:26] <steven_> ikonia: the're in the same partition
[11:26] <waylandbill> Doublenoob: I'm sorry, I was in the middle of something.
[11:26] <albech> how can i find out if my driver/nic is supporting wpa2?
[11:26] <nanobug> the windows swap file is dynamically sized and needs room to grow
[11:26] <ikonia> steven_: that sounds very odd, so you can't remove /opt it complains of permission denied
[11:26] <TheDarkBGM> i set the raid up in the bios so do i have to destroy that or can i keep it and get ubunty to install on 1 drive?
[11:26] <Doublenoob> waylandbill: ok.
[11:26] <Javid> nanobug, why not put the swapfile on the big shared partition?
[11:26] <waylandbill> Doublenoob: I asked if you had verified that it downloaded successfully, preferrably with a checksum they provide.
[11:27] <ani1> !wpa2 | albech
[11:27] <Napoleon98> ok, im installing vmware right now,, and it asks for my cd key, or press enter to cancel... I put in my cd key, but what do i push now?
[11:27] <ubotu> albech: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:27] <steven_> ikonia: yes, i tryed even with chattr to remove things like Undeletable
[11:27] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: if you install ubuntu onto one drive, it will either be a.) over written byt he bios raid b.) destroy the raid group
[11:27] <steven_> ikonia: just fond that there is a ssh server on that pc :P i can provide remote access
[11:27] <ikonia> steven_: can you touch a file on it
[11:27] <nanobug> because the windows swap file should be as close to the beginning of the disk as possible
[11:27] <steven_> ikonia: yes, just touched
[11:27] <ikonia> steven_: can you delete.
[11:27] <Javid> there is that.
[11:27] <Doublenoob> waylandbill: good point! I haven't, i'll try and find one!
[11:28] <steven_> ikonia: yes
[11:28] <nanobug> windows should be on the first partition, and for fast access (since windows overuses the swap file) it should have enough space to grow as needed
[11:28] <ikonia> steven_: this may sound silly, but what is your pwd
[11:28] <steven_> ikonia: i can delete anything inside /opt but not /opt
[11:29] <eifzon> How can I change the name of my windows disk that is named sda1?
[11:29] <nanobug> thats why there is no benefit to manually setting the size of the swap file. it will decrease performance
[11:29] <TheDarkBGM> im going to c what happens and let u know
[11:29] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: I know what will happen
[11:29] <geektasticgirl> hi
[11:30] <ani1> eifzon: the name is determined by the order of the disk and the partition what do you mean change the name?
[11:30] <nanobug> really the ideal setup, if you can afford it, is to just get an old computer, install linux on it and stick a bunch of hard drives in it
[11:30] <eifzon> ani1: the one that is displayed on the desktop
[11:30] <nanobug> use it as a samba share accessable by whatever os's/computers you use
[11:30] <ani1> eifzon: unmount it then create a directory in media for what you want to call it then remount it to that directory
[11:30] <geektasticgirl> i've seen a lot of demos of kiba-dock on youtube running on ubuntu, but i dont' see the package anywhere in teh package installer.  is kiba dock the best dock or there a more favored one now?
[11:30] <nanobug> you can do it with an old pentium 3 and an sata pci card, its cheap and effective
[11:30] <nanobug> don't even need xwindows on it
[11:30] <nanobug> administer it by ssh
[11:31] <eifzon> ani1: will I need to change anything in the grub options to+
[11:31] <ikonia> eifzon: the mount point is determined by the disk label
[11:31] <ikonia> nanobug: who are you talking to ?
[11:31] <geektasticgirl> i'd like to try the kiba dock. i can't staand the gnome task bar, too much like windows
[11:31] <ani1> eifzon: not grub but /etc/fstab !fstab | eifzon
[11:31] <ani1> !fstab | eifzon
[11:31] <ubotu> eifzon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:31] <bullgard4> Why do exist two slightly different files /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin?
[11:31] <ani1> geektasticgirl: awn and avant are pretty cool dock bars
[11:31] <geektasticgirl> !kiba-dock
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <eifzon> ani1: now its called /media/Windows and I mounted it there
[11:32] <ikonia> bullgard4: they are different files
[11:32] <eifzon> yeyw orks :)
[11:32] <aurax> is there an easy network configuration wizard in console ?
[11:32] <nanobug> ikonia: i was talking to javid
[11:32] <ikonia> bullgard4: package file cache and source package fil ecache
[11:32] <ani1> geektasticgirl: its not in the repo but you use !info for package info
[11:32] <bullgard4> ikonia: What is their difference?
[11:32] <aurax> anyone ?
[11:32] <geektasticgirl> !info kiba-dock
[11:32] <ubotu> Package kiba-dock does not exist in gutsy
[11:32] <ani1> aurax: ifconfig :\
[11:32] <CoOlGhOsT> hey.. need some advice on a laptop purchase: are there any limitations as to CPUs not supported by kernel?
[11:33] <geektasticgirl> why doesn't the package exist? doesn't that dock rock?
[11:33] <aurax> ani1: nah, i need it for newb users
[11:33] <geektasticgirl> i want a doc like apple's
[11:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: one is for packages one os fir source packages
[11:33] <geektasticgirl> for my ubuntu
[11:33] <nanobug> aurax:  what are you trying to do w/ it?
[11:33] <CoOlGhOsT> in an advert it clearly states that windows xp is not supported
[11:33] <Cowlol> Hi, I have a volume wheel on my laptop and in Ubuntu it only affects the 'front mic' volume, is there a way to make it change the speaker volume instead?
[11:33] <ani1> aurax: eh stick to the gui then its easier to set static ip's and such through the network manager applet
[11:33] <ikonia> Cowlol: any x86 and x86_64 cpu is supported
[11:33] <bullgard4> ikonia: What is the difference between 'packages' and 'source packages'?
[11:33] <aurax> nanobug incase i copy a vm guest and there's a new CID i want the user to be able reconfigure the network easily
[11:34] <CoOlGhOsT> CPU is a 2.40 GHz Intel C2 DUO T8300 800MHz 3MB
[11:34] <nanobug> debconf migith work
[11:34] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: sorry - any x86 or x86_64 is supported
[11:34] <nanobug> might*
[11:34] <unop> bullgard4, the former has compiled binaries -- the latter the source for them
[11:34] <aurax> all are console installation here...
[11:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: packages and compiles source packages are the source packages used to be packages
[11:34] <nanobug> dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
[11:35] <aurax> there's no such package
[11:35] <aurax> !info etherconf
[11:35] <ubotu> Package etherconf does not exist in gutsy
[11:35] <nanobug> hm
[11:35] <BurningPanda> riiight.... i enabled ati drivers from system - admin - restricted . but the screen is kinda messy.... VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JJ [Radeon X800SE] - anyone to help me find the correct drivers?
[11:35] <nanobug> welp
[11:35] <nanobug> there goes that idea :)
[11:35] <bullgard4> unop, ikonia: Thank you for explaining.
[11:35] <ani1> !ati | BurningPanda
[11:35] <geektasticgirl> What is a good package for a dock like Apple Max OS X dock?
[11:35] <ubotu> BurningPanda: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <geektasticgirl> Mac*
[11:35] <nanobug> its in edgy
[11:35] <ikonia> geektasticgirl: if you want a mac look - buy a mac
[11:35] <ani1> geektasticgirl: awn \ avant
[11:35] <geektasticgirl> i dont'w ant a mac look, this beats that
[11:36] <geektasticgirl> btw, they copied mac genie effect, the lamp effect
[11:36] <ani1> geektasticgirl: their both pretty buggy i think awn is alpha
[11:36] <steven_> ikonia: check pm :P
[11:36] <geektasticgirl> it's obvious many linux users like the mac features
[11:36] <geektasticgirl> i wanna replace the bottom gnome panel with a dock
[11:36] <ani1> ...
[11:36] <ikonia> steven_: one minute please
[11:36] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: so linux kernel does not give a rats *ss about registers and internal structure of a CPU as long as its x86 or 64. why cant xp run with it?
[11:36] <steven_> ikonia: oh sorry, just in case you didn't notice it
[11:36] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: I don't know - ask microsoft
[11:36] <ikonia> steven_: I've not got a pm from you
[11:37] <Ssam`> where do i get a gnu
[11:37] <ani1> CoOlGhOsT: what are you trying to ask...?
[11:37] <ikonia> Ssam`: gnu is not a package
[11:37] <geektasticgirl> compiz really tears up the mac lol'
[11:37] <nanobug> aurax: you could try installing the edgy package
[11:37] <skillz> hi, im using Compiz Fusion, with the Screenlets manger. However now the title bars of every window have dissapeared, and i cant resize windows or move them. Is there a way of stoping compiz fusion and then restarting it agian or something like that?
[11:37] <nanobug> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/all/etherconf/download
[11:37] <geektasticgirl> is compiz faster then quartz compositor?
[11:37] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: nah they suck
[11:37] <nanobug> i don't know if it would work or not
[11:37] <Ssam`> ahhh
[11:37] <geektasticgirl> i sure can do a lot of neat stuff with my desktop i can't on  a mac or pc
[11:37] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: ok, so don't ask about it then
[11:37] <geektasticgirl> err windows
[11:37] <geektasticgirl> ms windows*
[11:37] <ikonia> geektasticgirl: thats great,
[11:37] <Doublenoob> waylandbill: There's no checksum but I downloaded the file again and ran it with the exact same result, there's a bug in the file, Intel hasn't fixed it because Linux isn't popular enough or because of some other thing but that's for the conspiracy forum.
[11:37] <Ssam`> but they said u must get a gnu before u start to write down the source
[11:37] <unop> geektasticgirl, something like this  http://static.flickr.com/74/190717823_3bbb5a90fb_o.png ?
[11:37] <Ssam`> man i am confused
[11:37] <bazhang> skillz: have you tried enabling the plugin move windows in ccsm?
[11:37] <CoOlGhOsT> ani1: what i want is to dualboot with XP cause I sure as hell dont wanna run vista
[11:38] <ikonia> Ssam`: who said that ? what do you want to do
[11:38] <skillz> bazhang: no, how do you do that?
[11:38] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: so ask microsoft if XP is supported
[11:38] <Ssam`> packaging
[11:38] <ani1> !dualboot | CoOlGhOsT
[11:38] <ubotu> CoOlGhOsT: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:38] <xomp> Hello, I ran ubuntu live cd (gutsy) prior to installing to test if my wireless card was recognized. The wireless card showed up as a prism 2 card and was working a treat with the live cd, but after installing to my hard drive I got nothing. Could anyone explain why this is happening and how to resolve?
[11:38] <bazhang> skillz: open up ccsm and click the box with move windows
[11:38] <Ssam`> but before packaging id have to learn sourceing
[11:38] <Ssam`> there must me sumthing to compile into a binary
[11:38] <ikonia> Ssam`: what do you want to package
[11:38] <geektasticgirl> coolghost, i installed vista on 30gb partition, then installed ubuntu on partition after that
[11:38] <waylandbill> Doublenoob: the intel driver in the repository doesn't work for your needs?
[11:38] <skillz> what is CCSM?
[11:38] <Ssam`> learn it generally
[11:38] <ikonia> Ssam`: thats right, to package something, you must have something to package
[11:38] <ani1> !ccsm | skillz
[11:38] <ubotu> skillz: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[11:39] <geektasticgirl> and ubuntu you automatically made the boot loader menu
[11:39] <bazhang> skillz: should be called advanced desktop effects manager
[11:39] <Ssam`> where do u write the source in and is the source in c++?
[11:39] <ani1> Ssam`: source can come in many languages
[11:39] <stimpie> how do I install mysql 4 instead of 5?
[11:39] <ikonia> Ssam`: source can be anything, any language
[11:39] <Ssam`> ubuntu source can be in any language?
[11:39] <skillz> bazhang: i have advance desktop effects settings
[11:39] <ikonia> stimpie: I don't think mysql 4 is available for later ubuntu versions
[11:39] <CoOlGhOsT> ani1: I know how to dualboot.... what i want to know is why a laptop manufactorer can say that a CPU is not supported by an OS
[11:39] <ani1> stimpie: via synaptics mysql-server-5.0
[11:40] <CoOlGhOsT> geektasticgirl: yeah but i sorta wanted to avoid vista
[11:40] <geektasticgirl> linux has like sdk's for over 200 langauges probably lol
[11:40] <Ssam`> can i get a source of packages to get a know how
[11:40] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: so ask that company - not ubuntu
[11:40] <ani1> !info mysql-server-5.0 > stimpie
[11:40] <bazhang> skillz: then open it up and search for that plugin
[11:40] <Doublenoob> No, I want a driver that will use my card to it's full extent.
[11:40] <ikonia> Ssam`: go to http://www.tldp.org and read up about building software
[11:40] <ani1> CoOlGhOsT: its not up to the manuf to decide that...its if the OS supports it
[11:40] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: i know thats where i'll get the real answer, but I thought I would try asking here
[11:40] <Ssam`> its a dummys guide right?
[11:40] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: why ? it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:40] <Ssam`> everyone takes things for granted
[11:41] <ikonia> Ssam`: it ranges ffrom beginners to advanced, start at the begining
[11:41] <Cowlol> Hi, I have a volume wheel on my laptop and in Ubuntu it only affects the 'front mic' volume, is there a way to make it change the speaker volume instead?
[11:41] <KemrinH> I have a Gigaware USB webcam that I'm trying to find a driver and program to run. Suggestions?
[11:41] <Ssam`> okay but i get to see a source of a package right?
[11:41] <ani1> !webcam | KemrinH
[11:41] <ubotu> KemrinH: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:41] <ikonia> Ssam`: no - it explains how to build software, once you have understood that, you can look at moving onto packaging
[11:41] <xomp> Hello, I ran ubuntu live cd (gutsy) prior to installing to test if my wireless card was recognized. The wireless card showed up as a prism 2 card and was working a treat with the live cd, but after installing to my hard drive I got nothing. Could anyone explain why this is happening and how to resolve?
[11:41] <skillz> bazhang: ok, that works, no i can hold shit+click lmb to move windows.. but how do i get my title bars back?
[11:41] <neopsyche_> can someone help me install madwifi?
[11:41] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: well... i had two questions... kernel in ubuntu support... and supplementary question: xp
[11:42] <ani1> !wireless | xomp
[11:42] <ubotu> xomp: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:42] <KemrinH> Thanks ubotu
[11:42] <ani1> KemrinH: its a bot not a person
[11:42] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: and stop being a troll :|
[11:42] <nanobug> Ssam`: you can't learn to drive a car before you learn how to turn a steering wheel.  baby steps, my friend.
[11:42] <bazhang> skillz: you using emerald as a window decorator?
[11:42] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: I'm not trolling anyone.
[11:42] <bazhang> CoOlGhOsT: ease up please
[11:42] <ani1> CoOlGhOsT: learn how to ask intelligent questions and you will receive intelligent answers :)
[11:42] <stimpie> ikonia, ani1, thanks I guess I just need to install it manualy
[11:42] <Ssam`> yes exactly
[11:42] <Ssam`> where to start
[11:42] <Ssam`> start from the source right
[11:42] <skillz> bazhang: no, not that im aware of.. all i have is compiz fusion
[11:42] <ani1> !compile | Ssam`
[11:42] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: hehe ok
[11:42] <ubotu> Ssam`: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[11:43] <ikonia> Ssam`: http://www.tldp.org will explain the basics of linux and then how to build pckages
[11:43] <Ssam`> i am there
[11:43] <CoOlGhOsT> bazhang: im at ease... just asking a question i thought some of the gurus here would know
[11:43] <Ssam`> linux softwares?
[11:43] <ikonia> CoOlGhOsT: may serve you well to check the topic
[11:44] <Pici> Ssam`: Are you looking to just compile something for yourself? or package something that already exists? or?
[11:44] <Ssam`> nope start from the begining
[11:44] <xomp> ani1, the Wireless documentation doesn't seem to contain my issue. I'm fairly new at this.
[11:44] <Pici> Ssam`: okay, then ikonia's link would be a good place to start then.
[11:44] <nanobug> Ssam`: if you want to learn to start from the beginning, buy a book and install slackware
[11:44] <nanobug> trial by fire. :)
[11:44] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: i know i know.... i wont bother you with questions not 100% concerning ubuntu again then
[11:44] <Ssam`> i am downloading slackware
[11:44] <Ssam`> :P
[11:44] <bazhang> skillz: alt f2 emerald --replace does something? if not then sudo apt-get install emerald followed by that command
[11:45] <Ssam`> it should download in about 4 days
[11:45] <Ssam`> lol
[11:45] <stevr1it> hello, i have a problem with pdf files when i try toprint them with evince . I have ubuntu gutsy and my printer is a xerox phaser 6180 working perfectly (normally) with linux, any suggestion to solve the problem?
[11:45] <Ssam`> 12 kb/s
[11:45] <Ssam`> lmao
[11:45] <nanobug> all ive got to say is good luck
[11:45] <CoOlGhOsT> ikonia: thanks for helping about though even though the question was "off-topic"
[11:45] <unop> Ssam`, i should imagine you need to learn to program first, understand how programs work on linux and how they fit onto the filesystem, etc before creating packages
[11:45] <ani1> Ssam`: torrent muuuch faster :)
[11:45] <ikonia> Ssam`: slackware support is in #slackware channel
[11:45] <Ssam`> i am torrenting
[11:45] <nanobug> last time i installed slack was over a decade ago and i remember it about as fondly as my first root canal
[11:45] <LollinopiL> can i install a .JAR file ? ? ? ? ?
[11:45] <bazhang> !ot
[11:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:45] <ani1> nanobug: heh
[11:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[11:45] <skillz> bazhang: what is emerald? becuase copiz fusion was working perfectly before a restart
[11:45] <Ssam`> ill get there when ithe download is done
[11:45] <ikonia> LollinopiL: you don't install it, you run it with a jvm
[11:46] <Lamego> LollinopiL, no, you can "execute" it, with java, java -jar file.jar
[11:46] <nanobug> having a book helps a lot though
[11:46] <Lamego> assuming its a program jar, and not just an archive
[11:46] <bazhang> skillz: window decorator
[11:46] <nanobug> especially when you can't for the life of you get your network to work :)
[11:46] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: that's just run with java
[11:46] <CoOlGhOsT> bazhang: thanks... off-topic chan would have been a better place... sorry again
[11:46] <ikonia> Lamego: thats an excellent point
[11:46] <ani1> nanobug: Ssam` usually when you buy a book you get a live cd also :)
[11:46] <nanobug> ani1: yes, this is true as well
[11:46] <Ssam`> buy a book?
[11:46] <Ssam`> in the middle east?
[11:46] <LollinopiL> ok guys, how can i install java ? it was told to me that i've not the official version ... :(
[11:46] <Ssam`> u kiddin me
[11:46] <nanobug> you're in the middle east?
[11:47] <nanobug> where at?
[11:47] <Ssam`> people dont get over pirated cds here
[11:47] <Ssam`> :P
[11:47] <Lamego> LollinopiL, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[11:47] <Ssam`> like 10 cents for vista
[11:47] <Ssam`> okay over exajuration like a dollar
[11:47] <ikonia> !offtopic | Ssam`
[11:47] <ubotu> Ssam`: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:47] <Ninj1> anyone know, i have installed bittorrent_5.0.9_python2.5 , how to lunch this ?
[11:47] <icesword> hmmm.,dirt cheap
[11:47] <Ssam`> well he asked
[11:47] <Ssam`> okay i am tdlp
[11:47] <xomp> May I please get help from someone other than bot spammers with their !<insert generic command>? The WifiDocs don't appear to relate to my issue. When I ran the live cd my wireless was showing up, now that I've taken the plunge to install gutsy on my harddrive it no longer appears. Bait and Switch! :(
[11:47] <LollinopiL> Lamego but i mustn't uninstall the version that i currently have ?
[11:47] <bust3rnl> Ssam where you from?
[11:47] <Ssam`> where do i click
[11:47] <ani1> Ninj1: in the term type bit then hit tab tab
[11:47] <Ssam`> middle east
[11:47] <Lamego> Ninj1, no idea what that is, why don'y uou just install one of the many torrent clients from the repositories ?
[11:47] <Ssam`> :P
[11:47] <skillz> bazhang: im trying sudo apt-get install emerald.. and i get an error saying unable to lock the download directory
[11:47] <Ssam`> wotn be specific if u dont mind
[11:48] <Ssam`> traceroute
[11:48] <Lamego> LollinopiL, no, each jre is usually installed at a specific location
[11:48] <Ssam`> anyways
[11:48] <Ninj1> Lamego good idea
[11:48] <LollinopiL> ok
[11:48] <ikonia> Ssam`: this isn't anything to do with ubuntu you get better support in ##linux
[11:48] <Ssam`> i am on tdlp i dont noe where to click
[11:48] <nanobug> Ninj1: sudo apt-get install deluge
[11:48] <ani1> ::away::
[11:48] <unop> Ninj1, dpkg -L bittorrent_5.0.9_python2.5 | grep -i bin
[11:49] <LollinopiL> Lamego what happens if i install 2 times the same program ?
[11:49] <Ssam`> well you gave me the link i wanna know where to go guides or howtos
[11:49] <Lamego> LollinopiL, nothing happens
[11:49] <LollinopiL> okz thx ;=)
[11:49] <unop> LollinopiL, depends if you reinstall the package or not
[11:49] <Lamego> anyway, since you seem to be new to Ubuntu, you should keep with repository programs
[11:49] <Ninj1> sorry, i haven't yet installed the package
[11:50] <LollinopiL> i can't live without this chat
[11:50] <unop> Ninj1, chances are it places a link in the gnome menu -- perhaps under "internet" or something like it
[11:50] <unop> Ninj1, if it doesnt -- you can find out using that command i gave you
[11:50] <nanobug> Ssam`: If I may make a suggestion, if you don't know what you're doing and you want to learn, it is best to stick with something like ubuntu rather than diving head first into slackware
[11:50] <LollinopiL> so if i install java , with the installation there's JVM too ?
[11:51] <simion314> hi, please tell me a nice softwre to view pictures in linux,something like infraview
[11:51] <Pici> LollinopiL: yes.
[11:51] <LollinopiL> perfect
[11:51] <Ssam`> i agree which is why i am just downloading it :P
[11:51] <Ninj1> unop, thanks
[11:51] <nanobug> i mean, you can learn with slackware.  i did, so did a lot of other people.  but if i could have learned with ubuntu 10 years ago, i would have.
[11:51] <unop> simion314, gthumb
[11:51] <Ssam`> got it start off with linux
[11:51] <bazhang> skillz: you have some other add/remove or synpatic open? how are you trying to install this? via terminal? close the others first then try again
[11:51] <nanobug> you will catastropically screw up your system multiple times in slackware
[11:52] <nanobug> not a matter of if, but a matter of when it will happen
[11:52] <Ssam`> eh well u skrew up u learn anyways
[11:52] <waylandbill> Ssam`: if you really want to learn the in's and out's of linux, try LFS.
[11:52] <Ssam`> where do i click on tdlp?
[11:52] <unop> nanobug, sounds like the linux equivalent of openbsd
[11:52] <Ssam`> well lfs takes a lott for granted
[11:52] <bazhang> Ssam`: you really are offtopic now
[11:52] <Lamego> nanobug, don't make catastrophic assumptions based on your own experiences, anyway, let's keep on topic
[11:52] <Ssam`> okay
[11:52] <Ssam`> hold on!
[11:53] <xomp> Hello, I ran ubuntu live cd (gutsy) prior to installing to test if my wireless card was recognized. The wireless card showed up as a prism 2 card and was working a treat with the live cd, but after installing to my hard drive I got nothing. Could anyone explain why this is happening and how to resolve?
[11:53] <geektasticgirl> any good program available for ubuntu like the dashboard on mac?
[11:53] <simion314> unop: i use it but when i rotate a picture and save it ,always move me much forwared in the chain and always i had to press sace to get back where i was and find other picture that must be rotated and if i  save it it brings me back at the begining
[11:53] <Ssam`> i want to learn ubuntu packaging from scratch
[11:53] <geektasticgirl> widgets that ius
[11:53] <ikonia> Ssam`: this is really offtopic for ubuntu support - can we stop please.
[11:53] <geektasticgirl> is*
[11:53] <TheDarkBGM> well
[11:53] <ricosecada> Is there a way to issue a command and all the listed jobs in my crontab gets run right away?
[11:53] <TheDarkBGM> ubuntu booted sucessfully
[11:53] <TheDarkBGM> hahah
[11:53] <neopsyche_> need help installing wifi card.
[11:53] <nanobug> Lamego: a complete newbie installing a linux distribution without modern package management will screw up their system
[11:53] <Chousuke> Ssam`: There's the Debian packager's manual
[11:53] <bazhang> geektasticgirl: screenlets for compiz gdesktlets with out
[11:53] <ikonia> TheDarkBGM: of course it will boot successfully
[11:53] <ikonia> n
[11:53] <Ssam`> from scratch?
[11:53] <nanobug> whether its by chasing their way into a rats nest of dependencies
[11:54] <unop> simion314, I've never had that problem but you can always save the rotated picture in a subdirectory so as to not experience that
[11:54] <bytecode> simion314: gthumb *is* good, but it's worth get into F-Spot, it has some rudimentary photo processing functions too - not quite as indepth as irfanview, but the image management side of it, slide show etc is superb
[11:54] <nanobug> or being unable to get all their hardware working
[11:54] <nanobug> it will happen
[11:54] <mad_max02> neopsyche_, check ubuntuforums for wifi help
[11:54] <nanobug> more than once
[11:54] <waylandbill> Ssam`: there are documents on the ubuntu website showing how to contribute in the form of packaging. Good place to start.
[11:54] <neopsyche_> thanks
[11:54] <Ssam`> aight thanks why didnt no one say so!
[11:54] <Ssam`> thanks bye
[11:54] <nanobug> stick with ubuntu and make friends with apt, buddy.
[11:54] <Chousuke> I packaged some software ages ago for myself :P
[11:55] <MrStein> Hi! Is there a reason ubuntu does not configure the network with APIPA in home network ?
[11:55] <bytecode> simion314: if you rotate a pic in f-spot - it stays rotated (within f-spot) - all processing is done on copies so non-destructive.
[11:55] <Chousuke> I don't even remember what it was
[11:55] <nanobug> omg teh indigestion
[11:55] <unop> MrStein, it should and i believe it does
[11:55] <MrStein> unop: it does not :-(
[11:55] <bazhang> neopsyche_: what card
[11:56] <MrStein> unop: I see I can select manually APIPA (Local Zeroconf LL) in settings.
[11:56] <technolab> i want  to install Apachi web saver
[11:57] <simion314> thx all i will try f-spoot, i just want to see my pictures, and a lot of them must be rotated, for advanced effects gimp is the solution
[11:57] <waylandbill> packaging isn't that difficult, most of what it requires is time really.
[11:57] <TheDarkBGM> ok
[11:57] <LollinopiL> how can i verify that java is installed ?
[11:57] <TheDarkBGM> guys
[11:57] <unop> MrStein, so, what happens when you do select that option?
[11:57] <TheDarkBGM> ubunty 64 but is up and running
[11:57] <bytecode> simion314: yeah - if you right click on a pick in f-spot you can choose to edit it within gimp. It will launch gimp with the modified (or un-modified) version of the pict if wish.
[11:58] <TheDarkBGM> what the application to shoe cpu temperature again?
[11:58] <MrStein> unop: nothing yet. I tried to disconnect the wire and back.
[11:58] <unop> simion314, you can always use something like imagemagick's convert from the command line to rotate a bunch of pictures in one go
[11:58] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: simple way is to execute 'java' in a terminal.
[11:58] <unop> MrStein, you might need to restart networking prior to that (a guess)
[11:59] <simion314> unop: yes but not all the pictures must be rotated
[11:59] <LollinopiL> Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
[11:59] <LollinopiL>            (to execute a class)
[11:59] <LollinopiL> ok ? is it ok ?
[11:59] <LollinopiL> it started with that string
[11:59] <unop> LollinopiL, yes, it is a yes :)
[11:59] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: it's installed
[11:59] <simion314> in 8.04 gthumb remained or was replaced with other application?
[11:59] <LollinopiL> jejejejejeje
[12:00] <bazhang> simion314: wrong channel for Hardy
[12:00] <bytecode> simion314: one note - by default, f-spot tries to import images by copying them into your specifed library folder, if u have an existing collection, to avoid trying to overwrite your existing images with themselves, ues the file->import menu option, and un-tick the "copy files into photo folder" option.
[12:00] <MrStein> unop: just a moment, I was only watching eth0, when I should eth0:avah ...
[12:00] <MrStein> that works
[12:00] <unop> simion314, If i were you, i'd make a list of those that need rotating and then use convert anyway .. it saves time from having to do all the clicking
[12:00] <d0ntp2nic> =)
[12:01] <renata> #ubuntu-it
[12:01] <unop> MrStein, so APIPA works then?  I wonder why you need APIPA anyway, any particular reason?
[12:02] <unop> . o 0 ( APIPA = autosense is nonsense )
[12:02] <MrStein> unop: APIPA makes sense, when there is no DHCP server. That is why they invented it and ubutu implemented it ;-)
[12:02] <simion314> unop: in infraviiew i just press Lor R then  Ctrl+S and enter and i move quickly so i do the rotation fater, no mouse clicks
[12:03] <Ninj1> i have an dependence problem. bash: /usr/bin/bittorrent: /usr/bin/python2.4: bad interpreter: No such file or directory - i think this problem is with package , nothing to do to ubuntu..
[12:03] <xomp> I've resolved my issue with wireless not showing up with a reboot. Not sure why ubuntu decided to flake out on me like that.
[12:03] <xomp> Now I'm unable to connect to my wireless network... wonderful.
[12:03] <murmur> hello
[12:03] <danand> xomp - several things to check. since the live cd detects and allows you to use your wireless card, look at what modules the live cd is loading in to the kernel - run lsmod > lsmod-livecd.txt and compare that with the output from lsmod you get with the hard disk install. Secondly, check that you have all the relevant software installed on you hard drive install to allow you to use wireless. ie wireless-tools, wpasupplicant etc - look at the wireless docs fo
[12:03] <murmur> fuck up man
[12:04] <Pici> !language | murmur
[12:04] <ubotu> murmur: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:04] <bytecode> simion314: in f-spot, hold CTRL button, click each pic you want to rotate and then they'll all get done when you press [ or ] to rotate. nice and quick
[12:04] <bazhang> murmur language
[12:04] <Trae> is there a way, in Linux, to scan files (mp3 actually) for viruses?
[12:04] <unop> MrStein, it makes sense only if your infrastructure supports it -- in most instances, even routers don' know how to handle the 169.254/16 network .. let alone anything past that -- and forget about anything on the internet
[12:04] <Ninj1> anyone has tried to install bittorrent_5.2.0_python2.4.deb .. ?
[12:04] <egoleo> hello
[12:04] <xomp> thanks danand :) Got the card to atleast show up now haha
[12:04] <murmur> yew i
[12:04] <waylandbill> Trae: sure, there are virus scanners for linux, such as clamav
[12:04] <Trae> I've got some mp3's I want to make sure are ok... before I give them to my wife on her windows machine heh
[12:04] <murmur> i have utorrent
[12:04] <Trae> waylandbill, ahh can I apt-get install that
[12:04] <J-_> Is 'drwxr-xr-x 4' in any regards safe?
[12:05] <egoleo> if i delete my boot files, is there a way to fix it without reinstalling whole system?
[12:05] <waylandbill> Trae: yup
[12:05] <danand> xomp - that's something at least :)
[12:05] <Trae> sweet (what's mine say?)
[12:05] <unop> egoleo, yes but your mileage can vary (depending on what you deleted)
[12:05] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. i'm having issues with the usb ports on my laptop, my memory sticks usb mouse just won't work alot of the time, and if that's the case if i reboot they usually start to work again. It seems to be an issue with the usb hub/host drivers or something. I'm really not sure
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> Trae: its extremely unlikely a virus could get attatched to an mp3
[12:05] <egoleo> my boot folder is empty man
[12:05] <Trae> IndyGunFreak, ahh...
[12:05] <NET||abuse> Is there a way to reinitialise them by unloading/reloading host drivers from the modprobe command?
[12:06] <egoleo> so what can i do to save it
[12:06] <egoleo> since is a server?
[12:06] <xomp> danand, yeah, seems a reboot was in order. It failed to hibernate last night so I think that may have caused my problem. Now if I can only connect to my wifi network lol. Is there an application I can use to scan for my network? My SSID is "linksys" but when I put that in it refuses to connect, just fails after a while I guess.
[12:06] <bazhang> xomp: you want the gui way or the cli way?
[12:06] <unop> egoleo, how did it empty? was it a mount-point that is no longer mounted? or did you delete the files ? :)
[12:06] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: that's what I used to think about JPEG images - but then look at what happened with Microsofts Jpeg decoder exploit.
[12:06] <xomp> bazhang, either would be fine :)
[12:06] <egoleo> yes
[12:07] <egoleo> mistake man
[12:07] <Trae> IndyGunFreak, well I dl'ed an album (I had bought -- several times I might add) years ago from bit torrent, and wanted to put it on my wifes mp3 player
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: i didn't say impossible, i said extremely unlikely
[12:07] <murmur> moi seppo
[12:07] <seppo> MORO
[12:07] <danand> xomp - you can scan from the command line - iwlist scanning <wireless interface name>
[12:07] <seppo> hello everybody
[12:07] <waylandbill> Trae: That was my next statement, but IndyGunFreak beat me to it. Usually virii are found in executable format, not usually in an mp3 music file.
[12:07] <jescis> Hey, what's up with this? : securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[12:07] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 xomp this the definitive cli how to
[12:07] <NET||abuse> i've gone through the device drivers listed under modprobe -l, and identified the group of usb/host drivers, or atleast are under the path, "/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host"  => uhci-hcd.ko, u132-hcd.ko, sl811_cs.ko, ohci-hcd.ko, ehci-hcd.ko, sl811-hcd.ko
[12:07] <murmur> supposepi
[12:07] <seppo> shut up motherfucker
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <xomp> thanks danand , I'll give that a try. Thanks too bazhang :)
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <seppo> AA
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <dgjones> !ops | seppo
[12:07] <ubotu> seppo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <murmur> aa
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <Trae> wow...
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <FloodBot1> murmur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: agreed - but worth protecting against ;-) especially if you're responsible for a server serving mail to a load of windows machines.
[12:07] <bazhang> murmur: you have a support question?
[12:07] <murmur> a
[12:07] <seppo> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:07] <Trae> !op
[12:07] <seppo> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:07] <aetaric> !rules |seppo
[12:07] <ubotu> seppo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:07] <seppo> A
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[12:07] <FloodBot1> seppo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <seppo> A
[12:08] <seppo> A
[12:08]  * Mez pats FloodBot1 
[12:08] <dgjones> Pici murmur as well
[12:08] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: well, i wouldn't admin windows machines...lol
[12:08] <danand> hooray!
[12:08] <Trae> Pici, thanks mate.
[12:08] <danand> xomp - good luck :)
[12:08] <unop> egoleo, i should assume that if you reinstalled the grub and linux-image packages, you'd be ok
[12:08] <J-_> Is 'drwxr-xr-x 4' in any regards safe?
[12:08] <seppo> JAAJAJA
[12:09] <egoleo> yeah
[12:09] <murmur> a
[12:09] <simion314> i removed gthumb and it removed automaticaly the packaged ubuntu-desktop, is this strange?
[12:09] <murmur> a
[12:09] <egoleo> but how do i get a terminal and login to do this
[12:09] <egoleo> since is not logging in
[12:09] <Lamego> simion314, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package which lists all the ubuntu standard desktop packages
[12:09] <egoleo> is there a way?
[12:09] <unop> egoleo, is the system up and running?
[12:09] <murmur> a
[12:09] <mad_max02> hey guys I cant get azureus 3.0.5.0 to work in 64bit gutsy. Any help with that ?
[12:09] <Lamego> simion314, there is nothing wrong with removing it
[12:09] <murmur> a
[12:09] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: Trae  waylandbill http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070718165132AA85ZhA
[12:09] <murmur> a
[12:10] <murmur> a
[12:10] <egoleo> yes
[12:10] <murmur> a
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> what the.
[12:10] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: No - I've dumped windows at home and try to avoid them at work too - Ubuntu is installed all over the office :-) we only use windows for Hallife2 and Team fortress 2 during lunch breaks. Wine and cedega don't seem quite slick enough yet. but we try, we try .....
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[12:10] <bazhang> murmur stop
[12:10] <sound_heart> how can i add extension name to a group of image files with a command line?
[12:10] <egoleo> yes is up and running
[12:10] <unop> ok ,. open up a terminal and run this -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub linux-image-generic
[12:10] <Dr_willis> sound_heart,  thers several 'bulk rename' command line tools. I tend t use the one called 'qmv' a lot
[12:10] <waylandbill> IndyGunFreak: thanks. confirmed what I knew to be true.
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: makes sense, i just use windows for my occasional gaming fix.
[12:11] <sound_heart> Dr_Link, thank you.
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> waylandbill: well, i would hardly consider yahoo answers conclusive..lol, but its a good answer
[12:11] <egoleo> but i cant login
[12:11] <jescis> I think I came with a question at the wrong time. :/
[12:11] <Trae> IndyGunFreak, hey thanks man
[12:11] <egoleo> i am using a livecd now
[12:11] <Dr_willis> !info renameutils | sound_heart
[12:11] <ubotu> sound_heart: renameutils (source: renameutils): Programs to make file renaming easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-4 (gutsy), package size 80 kB, installed size 268 kB
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> Trae: np
[12:11] <egoleo> so how do i do this plse
[12:11] <bazhang> jescis: just ask
[12:11] <waylandbill> IndyGunFreak: agreed
[12:11] <unop> egoleo, why not? did you delete more than just the /boot folder?
[12:11] <Trae> IndyGunFreak, I'll obviously make sure all the files are playable ;)
[12:11] <J-_> Is 'drwxr-xr-x 4' in any regards safe?
[12:11] <egoleo> no
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> Trae: thats the big thing.
[12:12] <egoleo> only what is in boot
[12:12] <jescis> bazhang: I did but those guys where spamming
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> Trae: if they are playable, then a virus is very unlikely
[12:12] <Trae> kk
[12:12] <egoleo> so how do i login then
[12:12] <Gpalco> People, have a problemm! My templates folder is GONE! I don't where it is moved. I cannot remember deleting it either. I created another one with name TEMPLARES. But NAUTILUS doesn't use the files in it as templates !!! What do I do ???? HLP
[12:12] <egoleo> and doo this commands plse?
[12:12] <unop> J-_, depends on what "safe" means -- it's pretty safe from other people who are not the owner -- but if the owner is reckless, the file is not safe :)
[12:12] <unop> egoleo, so why can't you log in?
[12:13] <bazhang> jescis: what's up with this is not a very specific question
[12:13] <waylandbill> IndyGunFreak, Trae: having valid ID3 tags is probably even sufficient.
[12:13] <egoleo> bcos i the menu.lst file is also deleted
[12:13] <egoleo> which is grub
[12:13] <jescis> bazhang:  securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[12:13] <J-_> unop: ah okay, cool. thanks man. =) I used the permission in my root directory on my server...
[12:13] <simion314> it is nice in linux world that you have alternatives, and you know to program at a medium level than you can make the changes you need to improve the apps  :-))
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> waylandbill: probably.., i've download *mp3's* from Frostwire that were poor attempts to mask themselves a virus.
[12:14] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: thank you for the link, but the author of the response to the question didn't consider the possibility of buffer exploits. and whilst the differentiation between a worm, virus or trojan is relevant in a technical sense, to the layman they're all just viruses and malware as far as they're concerned.
[12:14] <unop> egoleo, but that only comes into play when booting up the system -- it doesnt affect the ability of a user to log in to the system
[12:14] <bazhang> jescis: is there a question in there somewhere?
[12:14] <egoleo> plse help me to login then
[12:14] <bytecode> simion314: yeha - it's all about freedom :-)
[12:14] <egoleo> bcos i am stack
[12:14] <egoleo> and i dont know how to login
[12:14] <jescis> bazhang: DARN  YOU!! >(
[12:14] <egoleo> bcos it stacks at the grub
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: i was just passing it along, i agree, it is *possible*, but it is extremely unlikely
[12:15] <Gpalco> How do I reate TEMPLATES folder in UBUNTU ??????????
[12:15] <unop> J-_, you shouldnt have to change the permissions of any of the system  folders, they are set at safe defaults anyway
[12:15] <egoleo> and give me grub 15 error
[12:15] <jescis> bazhang: it was on two lines >(
[12:15] <bazhang> jescis: please restate your question then
[12:15] <jescis> Hey, what's up with this?: securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[12:15] <unop> egoleo, so the system is _NOT_ running -- why dont you say so, instead of driving me around the county :|
[12:16] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: I realise - just conversing :-D it's nice to have a chat, I've asked questions the last few days and had no repsonses, I started to worry that I was invisible ;-)
[12:16] <egoleo> oh sorry
[12:16] <simion314> i tried linux 3 years ago ut i do not have internet connection, and i haven't a way to get programs and answers, now if i have internet Linux is the best
[12:16] <Dr_willis> Gpalco,  they come from the /etc/skel dir when a user is created - I belive
[12:16] <unop> egoleo, you'll need a rescue CD -- one that allows you to chroot into the system -- once you have chrooted in, then you should run the commands i have given you
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: lol, what kind of questions?.. and if your'e in off-topic, there's all sorts of random banter.
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> although its slow this time of morning
[12:16] <unop> egoleo, gimme a second, and i'll have a link with a howto to chroot
[12:16] <egoleo> ok
[12:16] <waylandbill> IndyGunFreak: nautilus and konqueror have good algorithms for detecting file type without relying on the filename. God bless them!
[12:16] <egoleo> ok
[12:16] <egoleo> thnx
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> waylandbill: yup.
[12:17] <bazhang> jescis: are you having trouble mounting a ntfs drive, an iPod or what precisely is the issue please
[12:17] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: Nautilus problem; I want to resolve why esoteric characters in file names are represeted as questionmark-type diamonds.  Is it my font? my character set?
[12:17] <Gpalco> Hi Dr_willis, very glad to hear you. I had the Templates folder be4, but it is gone. I created another one and named it like that. But it doesn't work
[12:17] <jescis> bazhang: it's two vfats
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: hm, never heard that one, can't say i know the answer to that one;
[12:18] <jescis> bazhang: I can't change the permissions :(
[12:18] <Gpalco> Dr_willis, there is a shortcutin Nautilus: Go > Templares . But it doesn't redirect to the new TEMPLATES folderI created
[12:18] <linuxfault> hey all, i install apache, php, mysql on a 7.10 but i cant connect remotely to my ip (only localhost). any ideas?
[12:18] <waylandbill> bytecode: could be an unmapped character in the font.
[12:19] <Gpalco> Dr_willis, Do i need to put a file or add settings to that TEMPLATESfolder ??
[12:19] <aetaric> is apache set to listen to 0.0.0.0 port 80?
[12:19] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: I reckon it must be a character  encoding issue, but I haven't figured it out yet :-/ need to spend a lot more time carefully googling I think. yeha I think it is unmapped, copying the name into gedit shows me the character codes. maybe I need to change my system font.
[12:19] <Lamego> aetaric, yes
[12:19] <foldart> usually
[12:20] <aetaric> im helping someone else?
[12:20] <bazhang> jescis: do these drives have entries in fstab?
[12:20] <jescis> bazhang: and thought that line was the cause of the permissions bazhang yes
[12:20] <waylandbill> bytecode: if you're using unicode, the likelihood of an unmapped character goes way up.
[12:20] <unop> egoleo, http://cutecomputer.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/howto-dev-file-system-in-chroot-ed-environment/
[12:20] <aetaric> linuxfault: do you have a router?
[12:20] <Flannel> linuxfault: Are you properly port forwarding at your router?
[12:20] <egoleo> thnx man
[12:21] <egoleo> thnk u so much
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Gpalco,  Linux IS case senesitive . If the dir name is 'TEMPLATES' thats not the same as 'Templates'
[12:21] <bazhang> jescis: what do you see when you issue the command mount? are the drives listed?
[12:21] <bytecode> IndyGunFreak: trouble is, many of my file names contain foreign (to the United Kingdom / British English) characters.
[12:21] <jescis> bazhang: yes
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Gpalco,  you can add new dirs to the Places menu  item. JUst open up your file manager, and drrag the folder to the sidebar on the left.
[12:21] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> bytecode: yeah, i see the issue, i just don't know how you coudl address it.
[12:21] <linuxfault> where would the 0.0.0.0 port 80 be aetaric?
[12:22] <bazhang> jescis: so they will not automount but you can mount them manually?
[12:22] <Lamego> linuxfault, if you didn't touched your apache conf, that is the default listener setup
[12:22] <bytecode> I'll have a play with my system at lunch time and see what I come up with.
[12:22] <bullgard4> bytecode: The cause is probably your locales. Please type in a terminal 'locale' and no-paste the output here.
[12:22] <xomp> ok, this would be easier to do on the laptop instead of through windows :)
[12:22] <jescis> bazhang: they are mounted
[12:22] <bytecode> bullgard4: no-paste?
[12:23] <d0ntp2nic> got damn.. MST =(
[12:23] <linuxfault> Lamego: i just added ServerName "localhost" to httpd.conf cause it would throw an error
[12:23] <jescis> bazhang: I just can't write files or folders to them :/
[12:23] <bullgard4> bytecode: Yes. Do you know what a No-paste service is?
[12:23] <tich> how would i convert pdf to xml?
[12:23] <Lamego> it would throw a warning, not an error :)
[12:23] <bytecode> bullgard: like pastebin?
[12:23] <waylandbill> bytecode: pastebin, etc.
[12:23] <xomp> hey bazhang, that guide you pointed me to is giving me fits hehe. Apparently I don't have the brain power to work cli. Did you say there was a gui way to do this?
[12:23] <bullgard4> bytecode: Yes indeed.
[12:24] <bytecode> bullgard4: http://pastebin.com/d7f6aa0b9
[12:24] <aetaric> ick gui!
[12:24] <jescis> bazhang: if you want I'll paste the mount out put on pastebin.ca
[12:25] <waylandbill> xomp: don't short change yourself. You and many other people have the brain power to use the CLI. They just have to overcome their fear of it. :-D
[12:25] <Typhox> Can you tell me how to add samples to the rightclick>New Document-Menu?
[12:25] <xomp> I know, but I'm getting errors with the cli that I have no idea about heh
[12:25] <Dr_willis> 'give in to the CLI side!'
[12:25] <co0lingFir3> hi, is the hardy beta already available?
[12:25] <jrib> Typhox: create a file in ~/Templates/
[12:25] <unop_> !hardy
[12:25] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:25] <Dr_willis> co0lingFir3,  check #ubuntu+1 topic
[12:25] <ArthurArchnix> join #ubuntuforums
[12:25] <Typhox> ok
[12:25] <bazhang> http://blogs.sun.com/richb/entry/group_ownership_problems_with_files jescis is this your general issue?
[12:25] <Typhox> thx
[12:25] <aetaric> lol thats why google was made. so we can figure out from others mistakes
[12:25] <malebria> Hello, in Gutsy Gibbon, when I use emacs with sudo, it doesn't open the file in arg.  Like sudo emacs /usr/local/bin/wine, it goes to *scratch*.
[12:26] <malebria> Is this a bug in this version of emacs?
[12:26] <malebria> I'm using emacs-snapshot-gtk
[12:26] <unop_> malebria, you could try  - gksudo "emacs file"
[12:26] <bullgard4> bytecode: Your locales are all right. They are not the cause of your Nautilus' trouble. --  I do not know a solution to your Nautilus problem at the moment. Sorry.
[12:26] <waylandbill> xomp: It probably would give the same error in a gui form. It just doesn't make the error pretty to look at.
[12:26] <unop_> malebria, if that doenst work -- sudo sh -c "emacs file"
[12:27] <aetaric> so wait hardy is still alpha
[12:27] <Flannel> aetaric: yes.  #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <malebria> unop_: hum, but do you know why it isn't working with sudo?
[12:27] <jescis> bazhang: I'll tell you after I read it ;)
[12:27] <xomp> waylandbill, true, my wireless card appears in gutsy, just I can't scan for network or manually connect by entering my SSID? I'm a wifi noob too so I'm doubly blessed </sarcasm>
[12:27] <bytecode> bullgard4: OK - thank you for your collaboration anyway  - it's appreciated :-)
[12:28] <Typhox> jrib: hm, the directory doesn't exists. I created it, but i think it doesn't work
[12:28] <malebria> hum..
[12:28] <malebria> I just noticed.
[12:28] <malebria> unop_: not even with the default user it works.
[12:28] <ApOgEE-> i got Segmentation fault (core dumped) when try to run blender
[12:28] <ApOgEE-> any ideas?
[12:28] <jrib> Typhox: "think"?  It either did or it didn't :)  Pastebin the output of 'ls ~/Templates'
[12:28] <malebria> unop_: like emacs file.txt
[12:28] <Typhox> k
[12:28] <malebria> goes to scratch.
[12:29] <jescis> bazhang: basically yes
[12:29] <Rods_Tiger> When it says 'updates are available, click the notification icon' etc, I click the orange icon on the menu bar, nothing happens, so I click it again and again until something does happen. Then ages later I get lots of Update Managers. Why can't it just give me the one?
[12:29] <unop_> malebria, not really sure -- might be a feature (or bug) with that version of emacs --
[12:29] <waylandbill> malebria: does /usr/local/bin/wine exist? and it's a binary file if it does. editting it wouldn't be likely what you wanted.
[12:30] <aetaric> rods_tiger: you click several times, so you got serveral windows
[12:30] <aetaric> next time click once and wait
[12:30] <malebria> waylandbill: it exists and is not a binary file..
[12:30] <Typhox> jrib: There are the files "html" and "html~" which have been created by myself. Do they need special filenames?
[12:30] <malebria> waylandbill: but this was just an example.
[12:30] <Rods_Tiger> I clicked several times because it ignored me - I only want the one Update Manager, anyone could work that one out.
[12:31] <unop_> waylandbill, /usr/local/bin/wine is probably a wrapper script around the real executable
[12:31] <waylandbill> malebria: after I said it, I thought it was probably just a for instance.
[12:31] <aetaric> it wasn't ignoring you its working, just very slowly
[12:31] <terminal> during updating steam  i got error  steam.exe (main exception): unable to load library steam.dll
[12:31] <malebria> waylandbill: ok. =)
[12:31]  * xomp downloads 216 updates :o
[12:31] <malebria> I got what the problem is here, thanks.
[12:31] <neopsyche_> can someone please help me set up recording for my tv card.
[12:32] <waylandbill> unop_: yeah. editing it is probably not the desired course either way. :-D
[12:32] <aetaric> terminal: i got that too when i ran steam with wine
[12:32] <Rods_Tiger> well, it didn't give any evidence that it was doing something. It was acting the same as when I click on a button but the button is too small and the mouse misses. Same reaction.
[12:32] <xomp> neopsyche_, what type of card?
[12:32] <jrib> Typhox: please pastebin the command
[12:32] <adidas> hi people, i have a little probleme : ubuntu doesn't recognize my monitor and my graphic card, so it puts resolution to 640*480 or something
[12:32] <neopsyche_> xomp, genius
[12:32] <terminal> aetaric ; so how u fix ur prob
[12:32] <Typhox> http://pastebin.com/f7eb00903
[12:32] <hyw> hello
[12:33] <adidas> for info, i've got a samsung 931bw 19" and a geforce 8800 gt
[12:33] <jrib> Typhox: and the actual command
[12:33] <novato_br> is there some kind manager education software for linux?
[12:33] <xomp> neopsyche_, flattery will get  you everywhere :) but seriously.. what brand of card? lol
[12:33] <Typhox> aha
[12:33] <unop_> waylandbill, probably, probably not -- I once had a problem with firefox that wouldnt shut down properly, so i had to edit the wrapper script to kill all instances of it first before launching
[12:33] <neopsyche_> xomp,its called genius
[12:33] <Rods_Tiger> It needs to work out that the Update Manager has already been clicked on several times, so only present it once, not several times. It's not sensible to give me several Update Managers under any circumstance, so why do it?
[12:34] <erbi> prova
[12:34] <unop_> !edubuntu | novato_br
[12:34] <ubotu> novato_br: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[12:34] <hyw> I just installed ubuntu, and it booted to windows.. why idea why this happens? no signs of grub or anything
[12:34] <neopsyche_> xomp, GENIUS is sticker on the card.. card is .. chipset.. SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder
[12:34] <neopsyche_> xomp, Phjllips semiconducter
[12:34] <xomp> neopsyche_, If you would like to translate my nickname to genius that's cool with me :) I am looking to "try" and use my hoaky ATI TV Wonder USB device at some point.
[12:34] <Typhox> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m3d9aee57
[12:34] <novato_br> ahauhua
[12:34] <aetaric> because the user clicked it that many times....what if you wanted that many it can't disern either way so it gives you many insted of one.
[12:34] <novato_br> okay, unop
[12:34] <hyw> any idea*
[12:34] <novato_br> thx
[12:34] <neopsyche_> xomp, ?
[12:34] <waylandbill> unop_: firefox has irritated me like that in the past. I had to play around to get two instances on two separate desktops.
[12:34] <xomp> neopsyche_, what program are you using? MythTV?
[12:34] <unop_> hyw, probably because grub wasn't installed at all -- or wasnt installed to the MBR
[12:35] <neopsyche_> XawTV
[12:35] <Rods_Tiger> No, there's no possible situation where a user might want several Update Managers. You can't use more than one at a time.
[12:35] <neopsyche_> xomp, XAWtv
[12:35] <jrib> Typhox: ubuntu version?
[12:35] <hyw> unop_: hmm but I booted to LiveCD and isntalled ubuntu
[12:35] <hyw> unop_: setup the partitions chose the language location etc
[12:35] <xomp> neopsyche_, cool, I've never heard of that one, I'll have to check it out when I go into the realm of finding a way to work my tv capture card.
[12:35] <unop_> hyw, things do go wrong sometimes -- even with ubuntu :)
[12:35] <waylandbill> adidas: errors or warnings are stored in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I'd look there first for resolutions that are unsupported and the like.
[12:35] <unop_> !grub | hyw
[12:35] <ubotu> hyw: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:36] <aetaric> but making that function is a pain from the programers stand point. i know i don't want to put that in the code...its a pain
[12:36] <neopsyche_> xomp, can you help with recording feature or not?
[12:36] <xomp> neopsyche_, no sorry, I was just curious about the hardware :)
[12:36] <terminal> during updating steam  i got error  steam.exe (main exception): unable to load library steam.dll
[12:36] <Typhox> aha, depends it on ubuntu-version? Sorry I have 8, i'll go to the other channel where my questions rarely be answered...
[12:36] <neopsyche_> xomp,whatever.
[12:36] <hyw> unop_: thanks I'll check it out, though it is the 3rd time I tried installing
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, Sorry I missed the question, does it boot to a black screen after installation
[12:36] <xomp> neopsyche_, hopefully someone here who has the knowledge will see our chat and pick up to help.
[12:37] <unop_> waylandbill, why dont two seperate windows work for you? :)
[12:37] <neopsyche_> xomp,whatever
[12:37] <aetaric> terminal: that is a glitch with using steam with wine uninstall and instal again
[12:37] <sound_heart> could anyone please recommend a pic viewer package?
[12:37] <unop_> hyw, you should be able to just reinstall grub and be ok .. could be that simple
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sound_heart, I like gthumb
[12:37] <Rods_Tiger> If I click on 'Install Updates' on mo4re than one Update Manager, it says 'Another Synaptic is running/ So it obviously knows it can't run more than one.
[12:37] <unop_> sound_heart, gthumb
[12:38] <sound_heart> thanks
[12:38] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: it used to boot to a blackscreen it had resolution issues I guess I fixed it using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and gksudo gedit /boot/grub.menu.1st   lol not sure if it fixed it though
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:38] <terminal> aetaric ; is there any other process to install it
[12:38] <waylandbill> unop_: with seperated desktops, I couldn't drag one to the other desktop. I seperated the desktops, cause the windows never appeared where I expected them to.
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, what did you edit in grub?
[12:39] <xomp> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=p80211_prism2_usb driverversion=0.2.8 link=no multicast=yes
[12:39] <unop_> Rods_Tiger, it is quite dangerous for many instances of synaptic and/or apt* to run at the same time -- the possibility of data corruption arising out of race-conditions is too much of a risk
[12:39] <aetaric> thats the lock file. the instanace of any apt/dpkg system lock that file so you don't break stuff so it stop it. if you load update manager, then switch to tty1 and give the command sudo apt-get update it will say that the lock file is locked
[12:39] <Eddie> Hi folks
[12:39] <Rods_Tiger> then why does it give me loads of update managers?
[12:39] <aetaric> beacuse you clicked it serveral times
[12:39] <nurdin> msg nickserv register <your-password>
[12:40] <Rods_Tiger> yes, but why does it give me loads of update managers?
[12:40] <Rods_Tiger> I only require the one
[12:40] <unop_> waylandbill, yea, i was kidding -- i worked around that issue by creating two seperate firefox profiles
[12:40] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: oh btw when I typed gksudo(before installing ubuntu) it poped an empty text file
[12:40] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I just closed it
[12:40] <aetaric> terminal: i don't remember the porcedure. google for install steam on wine
[12:40] <waylandbill> unop_: that's what I did to.
[12:40] <unop_> Rods_Tiger, different ones do things differently ..
[12:41] <aetaric> but you asked it for more than one so it gave you more than one.
[12:41] <waylandbill> aetaric: I click update manager and it only brings an existing one to the top. Makes sense, the code probably locates the existing instance.
[12:41] <unop_> Rods_Tiger, you can always get rid of the ones you dont like :) the reason many exist is for the one-size-fits-all feel to debian/ubuntu
[12:41] <Rods_Tiger> no, I only asked for one, but it didn't respond, so I made sure I asked for it
[12:41] <aetaric> if you want to click it 20 times and still get one goto the dev page and do a feature request
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, ok, I guess it is time to test it unless you would like me to look at your xorg and grub first.  Are you on the machine that has a problem now?
[12:42] <timefrost> HinHin, can someone tell me how to install OTR (Off-The Record) plugin for gaim. there is a packet for kopete, but not for gaim, help?
[12:42] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[12:42] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I am booting with LiveCD now
[12:42] <xomp> aetaric, I have this sore on my lip, each time I mash it with my tongue it hurts, can you explain why this happens? It appears to happen each instance I mash it. I'm at a loss ;)
[12:42] <aetaric> lmao
[12:42] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: how can I show you xorg and grub
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw,  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[12:42] <unop_> Rods_Tiger, perhaps i'm not really following you when you say "more than one" -- but anyway, work on the premise that only one works best :)
[12:42] <timefrost> Hi, can someone tell me how to install OTR (Off-The Record) plugin for gaim. there is a packet for kopete, but not for gaim, help?
[12:42] <PriceChild> timefrost: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:42] <Rods_Tiger> I want to have it respond, or tell me it's about to respond. When I click on something or type something and nothing happens, either it's not working, or I've missed the bit where I click or type, so I try again. It's unacceptable that it pretends I've not clicked, then ages later it springs into life and gives me loads of whatever I did
[12:42] <timefrost> 7.10
[12:43] <timefrost> PriceChild: 7.10
[12:43] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks
[12:43] <jrib> timefrost: install the pidgin-otr package
[12:43] <PriceChild> timefrost: 7.10 uses 'pidgin', the new name for gaim. sudo apt-get install pidgin-otr
[12:43] <PriceChild> timefrost: you can then enable it from pidgin's plugin manager.
[12:43] <aetaric> !rules |rods_tiger
[12:43] <ubotu> rods_tiger: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, adjust path if needed ecause of the live cd.  not sure how you mounted the hard drive in your situation
[12:43] <timefrost> jrib, PriceChild: thanks a lot!
[12:44] <unop_> Rods_Tiger, that can happen if the application was busy doing something and the window buffererd your actions .. but if you keep getting a continuously busy window like that, you should probably investigate -- but thats normal and expected of synaptic from time to time
[12:44] <aetaric> like i said if you want it changed to do something put a feature request on the programs dev page
[12:44] <Rods_Tiger> so pointing out a deficiency is not allowed? Ridiculous
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Rods_Tiger, THis is the wrong room for that discussion..  It is more suited to the offtopic room
[12:45] <CyuLat> ubuntu doesn't recognize my monitor and my graphic card, so it puts resolution to 640*480, how can i have my monitor to the list gived ?
[12:45] <aetaric> it works for the rest of us.......maybe you comp is to slow
[12:45] <waylandbill> aetaric, Rods_Tiger: could multiple instances be a bug. I've tried multiple times to click the update manager in the panel and in the system menu and the existing one just gets put in the foreground. It looks like it was intended to keep one instance, much the same way pidgin does.
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Rods_Tiger, It is not a support question.  Feedback always helps.. but it needs to be directed to a better spot for it
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> waylandbill,  Please also see offtopic
[12:45] <Rods_Tiger> I though this was the spot. Obviously nobody wants to know. Fair enough
[12:45] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: ok am trying to boot with LiveCD and it shows this again Display server has been shutdown about 6 times in the last 90secs
[12:46] <noelferreira> what is the file in where can i change the default background color of my gnome panel? because if i put it transparent it stays some parts transparent and other parts with system color.
[12:46] <nurdin> im new user
[12:46] <aetaric> lmao wtf i've told him like 5 times to put a feature request for it if he wants it to do that
[12:46] <nurdin> how to register my nickname
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> aetaric, Please watch the language...
[12:47] <aetaric>  /nickserv register password
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[12:47] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:47] <nurdin> thanks
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:47] <newTruth_UK> Greetings all. Anyone knows of an app like fspot (tagging) for pdf documents ??
[12:47] <benny269> can someone help me get drivers for my printer?
[12:48] <neopsyche_> how do i configure my wifi card as an AP?
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, There are several other options for hardware that is being difficult that you can try
 aetaric, Please watch the language... | funny coming from a pirate, albeit a Disney pirate but funny still :)
[12:48] <qiwik> hola
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, What printer..
[12:48] <qiwik> ouu inglish
[12:48] <aetaric> i read it the first time......
[12:48] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: hp DeskJet 843C
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[12:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:48] <yowshi> can the live cd be booted from a flashdisk? i kind of need mto do a fresh install and i dont have any cd's at the moment
[12:49] <neopsyche_> anyone?
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, Yes.. one sec
[12:49] <neopsyche_> anyone know how to configure wifi card
[12:49] <yowshi> wow Jack_Sparrow your still up and here?
[12:49] <xomp> neopsyche_, I saw how to just a sec
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, Yes.. one sec   Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[12:49] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: remove quite and splash and leave this ( --| )  at the end?
[12:49] <yowshi> thanks
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, Morning here now
[12:50] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, morning here too. i just woke up figured i would get started on my reinstall
[12:50] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, is there a hotto or help file or something like how do i run this .sh and what do i do with it
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, there are two options in the command I gave you, the first was simply remove two items.. the oter remoed two and added two
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, ./iso2usb.sh                or bash iso2usb.sh
[12:51] <aetaric> yowshi to execute a shell script use ./scriptname
[12:51] <yowshi> ok
[12:51] <yowshi> see i didnt know it was one of those kind of files
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> brb gotta grab coffee
[12:52] <nicodarious> does anyone have any suggestions on how to flash a BIOS from Linux?
[12:52] <xomp> neopsyche_, the link to that document is on my windows pc and I'm currently doing updates on this one.
[12:52] <xomp> !wifi
[12:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:52] <aetaric> just fyi sh and bin are typically shell scripts writen with bash
[12:52] <yowshi> other questions like how do i keep my /home partition from beeing formatted and how do i keep all my programme settings and stuff
[12:53] <Name141> Would Ubuntu work fast (enough) , on a USB2 external ?
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, Scripts are simple text format and often have user notes embedded inside
[12:53] <Name141> Just for "testing" to see if I want it as the primary OS
[12:53] <bytecode> Guidance needed - is there an IRC Channel for evdev / mouse configuration issues within ubuntu that I can direct my colleague to?
[12:53] <captainm> Name141: sure
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Name141, Useable, speed is relative to your needs
[12:53] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: any printer help?
[12:53] <nicodarious> I'm trying to update my mobo bios so I can install my new AMD 6400 CPU, but everywhere I go there's either sites telling me "use a floppy", although my machine has none.  Any suggestions?
[12:54] <phw> I want to boot a live ubuntu cd from a usb stick. does that work by just copying the iso onto the device? like "mv ubuntu.iso /dev/usbdevice" ?
[12:54] <ppibburr> phw no
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, Sorry.. had not checked the wiki yet..
[12:54] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: which wiki? perhaps i can check?
[12:54] <captainm> phw: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[12:55] <unop_> yowshi, you shouldnt need to format any of the partitions -- just name and mount the partitions as you have now and install ..
[12:55] <simplexio> phw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5151
[12:55] <waylandbill> nicodarious: I think you can burn the files to a CD and use the floppy image as the bootable image for the CD. I don't have instructions to do so though.
[12:55] <neopsyche_> can someone help me set up wpa enable wireless AP on ubuntu?
[12:56] <yowshi> unop_, except i want to make my home partition bigger. i have a /usr partition i made for simplcity when i made my final uibuntu install because i couldnt figure out how to make the two partitions on different hdd's one /home partition
[12:56] <yowshi> and i figured /usr was me so i would have full access to it
[12:56] <nicodarious> waylandbill hmm... using a floppy image to make a bootable CD?  interesting..
[12:57] <unop_> yowshi, you might need to resize the partitions to make /usr smaller and /home bigger ...
[12:57] <waylandbill> nicodarious: yes. k3b I know can burn that type of disc.
[12:57] <Stroganoff> yowshi, use gparted livecd
[12:57] <noelferreira> what is the file in where can i change the default background color of my gnome panel? because if i put it transparent it stays some parts transparent and other parts with system color.
[12:57] <yowshi> i know that i just dont wanna nuke my /home partition in the process
[12:57] <unop_> yowshi, although the best way would be to backup /home onto another HDD .. install and then copy it's contents back
[12:57] <yowshi> and Jack_Sparrow thanks for the script but i cant use sudo
[12:57] <Name141> Alright.  I figure this would be the simplest way to not worry about losing data (other than on the external drive) , keeping the internal "c" ?
[12:57] <Name141> (left alone)
[12:58] <yowshi> hmmm unop_ i do fortunatly have a third unused hdd
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, There dont seem to be many issues with that printer, have you gone through normal printer detection etc?
[12:58] <unop_> yowshi, you can su - and use the commands from the root shell instead of sudo
[12:58] <yowshi> sitting around waiting for me to decide which second linux distro i want
[12:58] <nicodarious> waylandbill: do I need the floppy info in order to burn it onto the disc or does k3b already have it in it's system ready?
[12:58] <yowshi> yes but his script uses sudo everywhere
[12:58] <waylandbill> nicodarious: you'll need the floppy yes.
[12:58] <unop_> yowshi, if you were like me -- you'd install linux within linux within linux :)
[12:58] <waylandbill> nicodarious: the image of it.
[12:58] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't done anything. First time use with Ubuntu. Its been hooked up since installation but I've done nothing more?
[12:58] <yowshi> LOL unop_ i did that with windows once
[12:59] <nicodarious> hmm.. ok.  i'll see what I can find.  thanks!
[12:59] <unop_> yowshi, just logon with su -- and run those commands without sudo -- same effect
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, Let me see what we can do..  system ... admin... printing...
[12:59] <nicodarious> waylandbill: hmm.. ok.  i'll see what I can find.  thanks!
[12:59] <yowshi> sure unop_ bring logic into it hehehdehhe
[12:59] <Name141> I am guessing I would need to set my BIOS to boot from DVD First, USB, then Internal , for this to work ?
[12:59] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[12:59] <aurax> i'm having a problem with start-stop-daemon
[13:00] <unop_> yowshi, just kidding -- i have a debian chroot on this machine -- and windows in vmware -- thats all
[13:00] <noelferreira> how do i upgrade for beta release of 8.04?
[13:00] <neopsyche_> how can i make please help anyone need to create wireless AP so my laptop wifi can connect to main internet pc.
[13:00] <aurax> trying to chdir before executing java ... but it allways fails
[13:00] <aurax> this is what i'm trying to do :
[13:00] <jrib> !hardy | noelferreira
[13:00] <ubotu> noelferreira: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:00] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, do you see your printer listed if not click add priinter
[13:00] <aurax> start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /var/run/loader.pid --make-pidfile --startas "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java -Dfile.encoding=ISO-8859-1 -jar loader.jar"
[13:00] <yowshi> unop_, of course if i mod the script and remove all sudo instances it probably would work too no?
[13:00] <noelferreira> jrib, it is already secure?
[13:01] <neopsyche_> can
[13:01] <neopsyche_> anyone
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, doubtful
[13:01] <neopsyche_> please..
[13:01] <neopsyche_> ..
[13:01] <neopsyche_> help
[13:01] <neopsyche_> ..
[13:01] <FloodBot2> neopsyche_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: what is PDF listed under Local Printers?
[13:01] <jrib> noelferreira: it's beta (unfinished)
[13:01] <neopsyche_> with.
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !hwlpme | neopsyche_
[13:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hwlpme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:01] <yowshi> bugger
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | neopsyche_
[13:01] <ubotu> neopsyche_: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[13:01] <DaveTarmac> which is better for sound: OSS or ALSA?
[13:01] <jrib> yowshi: what are you trying to do?
[13:01] <unop_> yowshi, yes, as long as the script was invoked under the root shell
[13:01] <yowshi> nothing it didnt work
[13:01] <neopsyche_> unreadable channels suck
[13:01] <noelferreira> ok but beta is beta jrib. i think i'll try :)
[13:01] <IanLiu> How do I access my smb://address by terminal?
[13:02] <neopsyche_> wifi card need to setup as AP.. anyone?
[13:02] <unop_> IanLiu, smbclient / smbget
[13:02] <olimpico> is there a way to measure the maximum velocity from a direct connection with another computer?
[13:02] <yowshi> crap i forgot i am going to have to mount the usb the hardway
[13:02] <IanLiu> I want thanks
[13:02] <yowshi> since i cant gksudo
[13:02] <xomp> is it normal for iwconfig to output this "wlan0     no wireless extensions.
[13:02] <xomp> " for a wireless card? i guess what I'm trying to say is, would that indicate a "problem" with my card? Or am I simply not connected via wifi?
[13:02] <unop_> yowshi, you can mount in the su shell too :)
[13:02] <Pici> !sudo
[13:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:03] <Po-mas> hi all
[13:03] <unop_> Pici, his whole problem is sudo (or the lack of it ATM) :)
[13:03] <yowshi> i know that unop_ but i had created a button to run the mount and umount command for me
[13:03] <Po-mas> i have a problem with evolution
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI yowshi has a unique situation in regards to permissions and using sudo or gksodo.. we never found a way to fix it
[13:03] <unop_> yowshi, you're lazy, i'll give you that :p
[13:03] <yowshi> can anyone help me with a walktrhough of how to mount an unused but hooked up harddrive so i can back up all my data?
[13:04] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: thanks its working, should I remove PDF?
[13:04] <yowshi> unop_, lazy? HA after what i had to go through to to figure out how to make thre button work?
[13:04] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: ok I removed quite and splah rebooted and adding no apic now, how do I save it shall I just click enter?
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, no.. you never know when you want to make a pdf eh?
[13:04] <yowshi> itr is just i mount and unmount the flash sticks so often i needed a faster way to do it
[13:04] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: it failed btw
[13:04] <jrib> yowshi: create a directory to mount it, then issue 'sudo mount -t TYPE /dev/blah /mount/point/you/created
[13:04] <Po-mas> it keeps asking for my global adress list pw when i want to make a new agenda entry
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw,  just try it
[13:04] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: is there an analogous way to get my scanner working? Again I've done nothing to set it up yet?
[13:04] <unop_> yowshi, sudo fdisk -l  should list the devices -- find your HDD -- and mount it -- sudo mkdir /media/hdd; sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/hdd
[13:05] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: a wireless router would be inexpensive and save alot of time.
[13:05] <yowshi> good it did find it
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, noapic not no apic         and acpi=off  should also be added
[13:06] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I just miss typed in here, what should I do next btw|?
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> benny269, apps...graphics... xsane
[13:06] <IanLiu> I wanted to make a symbolic link from my smb://address to my WWW folder.. is that possible?
[13:06] <Stroganoff> IanLiu: use fusesmb
[13:06] <indomiti> !hardy | indomiti
[13:06] <yowshi> ok so do i just copy the entire /home folder to this? or should i zip it or something
[13:06] <unop_> IanLiu, better you mount the smb://address in the WWW folder -- man smbmount
[13:07] <ibou> I'd like to copy sound frome cd to my hard drive which could be as much conform as cd as possible. Wavpack let me chose between stereo mid/side and stereo left/right. What should i chose ?
[13:07] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, if you tried both of the options I posted.  you can try burning the cd at 4x ...  or the alternate text install..
[13:07] <IanLiu> Ok, I will try that
[13:07] <unop_> yowshi, it's your call -- whichever is faster :)
[13:07] <benny269> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[13:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:07] <newTruth_UK> Greetings all. Anyone knows of an app like fspot (tagging) for pdf documents ??
[13:08] <unop_> newTruth_UK, pdftk
[13:08] <yowshi> unop_, the question isnt which is faster the question is which will cause fewer complications after a long and probably complicated process of reinstalling unbuntu and resizing my /home partition
[13:08] <DaveTarmac> I have a LogiTech MX3000 keyboard and mouse set and for some reason the volume control on the keyboard doesn't work, although it is registering with the OS as I get the big volume indicator on screen - is there a way I can actually have this work?
[13:08] <unop_> yowshi, the normal copy is the least complicated and probably faster way
[13:08] <olimpico> How can I check if my networkcard is actually giving me 100 MB instead of only 10 MB/s?
[13:09] <unop_> olimpico, ethtool <interface>
[13:09] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I booted to ubuntu now
[13:09] <bartmon> Hey. My virtual terminals are getting spammed with ip stack debug messages. Is there a kernel argument to turn these off or can I just change the /boot/config-2.6.x?
[13:09] <yowshi> root@ubuntu:/home/yoshi/Desktop/download# cp /home/yoshi /media/hdd
[13:09] <yowshi> cp: omitting directory `/home/yoshi'
[13:09] <yowshi>  LOL
[13:09] <unop_> yowshi, :)  cp -R /src /dest
[13:09] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: what these options supposed to do, enable me to boot to ubuntu or fi the display error?
[13:09] <hyw> fix
[13:09] <yowshi> whats nall that bstuff
[13:10] <unimatrix> why is ubuntu's alsa-plugins crippled up? it's missing the jack plugin
[13:10] <yowshi> like whats -R
[13:10] <unop_> yowshi, -R == recursively
[13:10] <yowshi> ah
[13:10] <xomp_> ok, is there an easy way to verify that ubuntu has my wireless adapter installed and working?
[13:10] <yowshi> ok i am going for a smoke bbs
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, they were to get the live cd to boot by getting around problem hardware
[13:11] <unop_> xomp, ping the interface's address then it's gateway
[13:11] <Stroganoff> !bash > Stroganoff
[13:11] <xomp_> unop_, ok, is there an easy way to find the interface addy and gateway? lol
[13:11] <newTruth_UK> unop_ isn't pdfk used for  hacking pdf documents? I'm more interested in adding tags to PDF and using that to archive, cathegorize them like you do with JPG in fspot.
[13:11] <Stroganoff> !bash > yowshi
[13:12] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: shall I reboot and try booting to ubuntu without hitting F6?
[13:12] <olimpico> unop_: Thanks a lot, that workes great! i just bought a LAN HUB, it's 10/100MB/s but when I copy files from one computer to the other I get only 10MB/s transfer rates.
[13:12] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: or is there something I need to fix before rebooting as I am in LiveCD now
[13:12] <olimpico> unop_: Both are Ubuntu machines and both have 100MB in eth0
[13:13] <unop__> olimpico, you have to make sure that both adapters on the link are explicitly set to full-duplex 100MB
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, all I can say is try.. I know you did some editing.. do you know the command to get past black screen at boot?
[13:13] <olimpico> unop_: I did, using the command you told me, both are
[13:13] <donkey7186> I have a question. How can i make my connection startup on boot.
[13:13] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: which black screen btw?
[13:13] <jescis> bazhang: oooh, I got rid of everything except the default option. Do I need gid and uid?
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, sorry if I am a bit slow.  Still waking up.  could you please give me a one liner of your original problem
[13:13] <ibou> I'd like to copy sound frome cd to my hard drive which could be as much conform as cd as possible. Wavpack let me chose between stereo mid/side and stereo left/right. What should i chose ?
[13:14] <unop__> olimpico, the rates you are estimating by might be in megabytes per second -- while the speed of the line in in megabits per second -- so you would typically see a 1/8th in speed
[13:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ibou, what format is the cd
[13:14] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: no worries,
[13:15] <bullgard4> Synaptic > <DEB package name> >  Properties > Dependencies lists DEB package names and associated attributes 'Needs' and 'Recommends'. What is the equivalent command on the command line?
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: do you know of a good link on how to make a wireless connection start on boot up?...
[13:15] <Pici> bullgard4: apt-cache show packagename
[13:15] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I was confronting the display error so I clickec F6 booted to LiveCD and installed ubuntu, then I reboot and there was no grub it just booted Windows
[13:15] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak, nothing much
[13:15] <hyw> clicked
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> hm, ok.
[13:15] <ibou> Jack_Sparrow: it's an original music cd
[13:15] <unop__> olimpico, also .. transfer rates never happen at 100% the bandwidth -- and there are disk and processor overheads .. what speeds are you experiencing exactly?
[13:16] <ibou> Jack_Sparrow: i guess it's cd audio
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ibou, So you wnat to rip it but in good quality
[13:16] <ibou> Jack_Sparrow: yes, in wav
[13:16] <unop__> bullgard4, apt-cache show package ?? perhaps?
[13:17] <xomp_> ok, updates all done.
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, Try it, you can always come back
[13:17] <ibou> Jack_Sparrow: but wavpack ask me to chose between sterero mid/side and stereo left/right...
[13:17] <ushu> lut
[13:17] <ushu> hi
[13:17] <yowshi> back
[13:17] <babo_> when i try to downsize some of my images ... the quality turns out really bad. Is that just gimp ? or does it happen with PS as well ?
[13:17] <unop__> bullgard4, also -- aptitude show package
[13:17] <olimpico> unop_: I get nothing more than 11 MB/s
[13:17] <donkey7186> I have a question. How can i make my connection startup on boot. Whenever i startup my computer i have to go into manual configuration for the wireless and change the password type from WPA Personal to WPA2 Personal, in order for me to be able to get an internet connection!
[13:18] <waylandbill> is there a way to view man pages on the desktop in gnome similar to how konqueror has a man:// type address?
[13:18] <yowshi> next question what about the games i have installed and stuff with compying the home folder same all my games settings and the stuff i have on my panel?
[13:18] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I did install ubuntu btw, it is already in the drive but it does not show a grub it just boots to windows
[13:18] <xomp_> can someone help me with iwlist? I'm getting nothing when I should be getting several items.
[13:18] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: it acts as if no linux is installed
[13:18] <unop__> olimpico, 11MiB/s is quite good -- that's about 88Mib/s
[13:19] <Tyczek> I've got problem... I have rtl8185 -based wifi card... I want to blacklist it... I added entries in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but it is load on start...
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ibou, I was unaware of any regular audio cd that had more that two channel sound...
[13:19] <waylandbill> hyw: grub may not be installed on the drive that is booting
[13:19] <bullgard4> Pici, unop__ An OP in another channel gave me the correct answer: It is apt-cache depends <DEB program package>. --  Thank you.
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, Did you install to a second hard drive in your pc or maybe an external?
[13:20] <olimpico> unop_: I think you are right, I thought the Hub was 100 MBps, but I just checked and it's 100Mbps, and also the networkcards. Thanks a lot!!!
[13:20] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: yeah windows in primary ubuntu in secondary
[13:20] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: but it doesnt matter because I am just reinstalling ubuntu and it worked just fine earlier
[13:20] <xomp_> my laughter sounds like crying right now :(
[13:20] <unop__> Tyczek, make sure it isnt included in one of /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d/*
[13:21] <Pici> bullgard4: apt-cache rdepends is helpful too if you're concidering removing something and aren't sure what it'll take with it.
[13:21] <Tyczek> unop_, ok, I'll check
[13:21] <waylandbill> hyw: you can (re)install grub to the mbr of the primary drive using grub-install.
[13:21] <unop__> xomp, i'm sorry you're hysterical atm .. but life gets better, trust me :)
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, that often causes issues if the mbr of the wrong drive is selected
[13:21] <olimpico> unop_: i just needed to understand, now I'm happy, Thanx again!!!
[13:21] <xomp_> !wifi
[13:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> waylandbill, exactly..
[13:21] <nicodarious> waylandbill: you still here?
[13:21] <neopsyche_> I have laptop on .. with wifi and my card in PC.. how can i configure it?
[13:21] <hyw> waylandbill: just grub-install ?
[13:22] <hyw> waylandbill: sudo grub-install ?
[13:22] <newTruth_UK> ? Anyone knows of an app like fspot (tagging) for pdf documents ?
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, have you checked to see if your card is supported
[13:22] <waylandbill> hyw: grub-install with argument of the device to install to like /dev/hda or /dev/sda etc.
[13:22] <SupaFly> Hey does anyone have a link for a "How to" thread on installing and setting up Conky?
[13:22] <waylandbill> hyw: yes with sudo.
[13:22] <waylandbill> nicodarious: yes I am
[13:23] <nicodarious> waylandbill: wow, there's a lot of kde stuff I have to install just to get k3b installed, heh.  I'm running purely gnome right now, and I hate to install useless programs for just one.  you know of any other programs that will definitely write a floppy image?
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> nicodarious, right click iso and send to cd
[13:23] <TheDarkBGM> guys
[13:23] <TheDarkBGM> stupid question
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> nicodarious, sorry misread that
[13:23] <nicodarious> NP
[13:23] <xomp_> is there a need to "enable" a wifi adapter? I see wlan0 in the network manager but it's not "checked" and according to the wifi doc's it has to be checked to enable (but it's not working for me)
[13:23] <TheDarkBGM> i have 2 hard disks installed
[13:24] <TheDarkBGM> how do i acess the 2nd hard drive?
[13:24] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah it says grub device not specified
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarkBGM, please keep the question on one line
[13:24] <hyw> waylandbill: sudo grub-install /dev/hda   ?
[13:24] <TheDarkBGM> sorry i am used to talking on games where the lines are limated not like here sorry for that
[13:24] <Pici> SupaFly: conky is in the software repositories, see the conky manpage, http://conky.sourceforge.net/ and #conky for configuration help
[13:24] <waylandbill> nicodarious: I don't know if gnomebaker will. I'm curious, so I'll find out.
[13:24] <danand> nicodarious - floppy image? the dd command will create an image of a floppy for you and transfer an image to a floppy for you.
[13:25] <waylandbill> hyw: hda is usually primary IDE drive and looks reasonable.
[13:25] <nicodarious> waylandbill: i'm trying that too right now also.
[13:25] <Crash> hello
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarkBGM, internal or external drive, what format on the partitions on that drive
[13:25] <xomp_> also, the wifi doc's seem old, kind of sorta REALLY old, there is no "Networking" in "System > Administration" secondly, there is no option to choose the "Default Gateway device" as shown in the images..
[13:25] <nicodarious> danand: that would be fine... IF I had a floppy drive, but I gave those up five years ago! lol
[13:25] <unop__> waylandbill, i dont think you'd ever find /dev/hd* on a recent ubuntu -- it's all /dev/sd* now
[13:26] <bullgard4> Pici: Ok, I will try to keep that in mind also.
[13:26] <yowshi> unop_, sd is sata hd is ide
[13:26] <SupaFly> Pici yeah ive read that that version shouldnt be there, its really buggy, ive had conky installed and running before but a long time ago, and i remember that theres some loops to jump through to get it working correctly
[13:26] <nicodarious> waylandbill: I found that Nero has a Linux install.  I want to try that one too.  I'll let you know.
[13:26] <unop__> yowshi, on other linuxes yes -- on ubuntu, no :)
[13:26] <Crash> anybody have got a problem with bus' mainboard K7s5A?
[13:26] <danand> nicodarious - brasero is pretty good
[13:26] <waylandbill> unop_: really? I thought hda is ide and sda is scsi
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> nicodarious, It will accept seriol number from your windows copy of nero
[13:27] <Crash> hello
[13:27] <Crash> anybody have got a problem with bus' mainboard K7s5A?
[13:27] <IndyGunFreak> nicodarious: nero has a linux version
[13:27] <waylandbill> unop_: my desktop has kubuntu 7.10 and it shows hda and sda.
[13:27] <Crash> error smbus_630
[13:27] <mad_max02> anyone here using Gnash for Flash in 64bit Firefox ????
[13:28] <unop__> waylandbill, you'd be right to assume that on any other linux -- but iirc, the underlying mechanism for identifying drives is more or less consistent on ubuntu
[13:28] <jrib> !anyone | mad_max02
[13:28] <ubotu> mad_max02: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:28] <Crash> anybody have got a problem with bus' mainboard K7s5A?
[13:28] <unop__> waylandbill, my ide drives only show up as /dev/sd* .. let me try and find that link if i can
[13:28] <vijay> is ubuntu hardy beta out??????
[13:28] <jrib> !hardy | vijay
[13:28] <ubotu> vijay: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:28] <mad_max02> jrib, and how did that help ?
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> vijay: its still alpha if i recall
[13:28] <nicodarious> waylandbill: it seems that Nero Linux 3 has a DOS boot image with the install.  Going to try that out and reboot.  I'll let you know when I come back
[13:28] <waylandbill> unop_: thanks. I'd be interested to see it.
[13:28] <mad_max02> I asked coz I'm looking for someone who is running it
[13:29] <chdst> Today's Beta day, according to the schedule ^^
[13:29] <yowshi> grrr i wish i knew what all these commands were supposed to do and what values i should substitue for $TEMPORARY
[13:29] <waylandbill> nicodarious: thanks. I may have to check it out.
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> mad_max02: just ask, if someone is, they'll respond
[13:29] <vijay> but beta is suppose to come today 20 th  according to schedule :)
[13:29] <jrib> mad_max02: those types of questions just increase the traffic in this room.  Just assume the answer is "yes" and ask your next question.  That's the best way to get help
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> vijay, Which month?
[13:30] <chdst> vijay: There's plenty of "today" left.
[13:30] <unop__> waylandbill, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-02/msg00787.html but also read http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-02/msg00605.html
[13:31] <vijay> \chdst :)
[13:31] <nicodarious> waylandbill: if this works, It may just well be worth the $20.00 for the full version... to me.
[13:31] <waylandbill> unop_: thanks. learn something new everyday. Looks like there still could be hd* if the system doesn't support the new libata code though.
[13:32] <unop__> waylandbill, depends on the chipset apparently
[13:32] <donkeyboy> I made my ubuntu very sad :-( was trying to upgrade from daper to gutsy, so changed the sources list and then did a apt-get dist-upgrade, now everything is broken :-( libc6 broke, is there any hope of fixing (I have tried downgrading back to dap, tried apt-get install libc6, etc) but so many dependencies are now missing, vim, locals, the list goes on. is there anything I can do or should I...
[13:32] <donkeyboy> ...just reinstall?
[13:32] <Pici> donkeyboy: Did you try to upgrade directly from Dapper to Gutsy? without going through the versions inbetween?
[13:32] <donkeyboy> yes :-(
[13:33] <donkeyboy> I am an idiot :-(
[13:33] <jrib> donkeyboy: that's not the proper way to upgrade.  At this point I would just backup and reinstall.  That will probably be the fastest way
[13:33] <IndyGunFreak> donkeyboy: most likely.. directly from dapper to gutsy, is sure to cause a problem.. you should ahve read up on upgrading a little bit
[13:33] <waylandbill> unop_: so eventually it will be all sd*, when all the legacy machines end up in the scrapheap.
[13:33] <jrib> !upgrade > donkeyboy (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:34] <donkeyboy> yes :-( I acknowledge my idiot status, the question is, is there anyway to fix the sillyness I have done, or is a reinstall the only answer?
[13:34] <unop__> waylandbill, i dunno -- ubuntu's doing really funny things that the rest of the linux community don't see any sense in doing -- guess it will only be ubuntu that does it, but yea, the idea is to use a single library to identify and interact with both PATA and SATA (amongst others) drives
[13:35] <waylandbill> donkeyboy: you're not an idiot. I'm sure others have made that mistake. If you have your data backed up, you can install a clean copy.
[13:35] <hwilde> anybody have a resolution for    BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!    ?
[13:35] <IndyGunFreak> donkeyboy: can it be fixed?  maybe.. but you'll rip your hair out trying for that .001% chance that it can.  reinstlal will be easiest and definitely successful
[13:36] <donkeyboy> waylandbill: no data on it, it brand spanking new, running on a XEN instance, the only reason I don't want to reinstall is the guys who are hosting it take forever to do anything, so thought I could fix it myself
[13:36] <donkeyboy> ok, thanks guys. Will just send a mail to the hosting guys and ask them to reinstall. hopefully have it back up before the end of the universe :-D
[13:37] <waylandbill> donkeyboy: heck, if there's nothing important on it you have options.
[13:37] <donkeyboy> waylandbill: I only got it up about 40 minutes ago
[13:37] <hyw> waylandbill: tried sudo grub-install /dev/hda  didnt work so I tried the Super Grub Disk chose language then linux then Fix Boot of Linux Grub it succeeded rebooted the Grub appeared but it says Error 22 no such partition when I chose ubuntu
[13:37] <sinbox> donkeyboy, that was fast :D
[13:38] <donkeyboy> and 30 of those have been spent trying to fix this bugger up I made :-D so absolutely no data on it
[13:38] <hyw> waylandbill: though I have ubuntu installed
[13:38] <donkeyboy> sinbox: hahahaha
[13:38] <donkey7186> I have a question. How can i make my connection startup on boot. Whenever i startup my computer i have to go into manual configuration for the wireless and change the password type from WPA Personal to WPA2 Personal, in order for me to be able to get an internet connection!
[13:38] <chdst> donkeyboy: If you really set on the bleeding edge, there will be an upgrade path from LTS to LTS release, that is, from dapper to hardy.
[13:38] <unop__> waylandbill, this might interest you too - http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=41489
[13:39] <waylandbill> hyw: you may have to edit the menu.lst. The location of ubuntu may not reflect the current location.
[13:39] <hyw> waylandbill: how do I do that
[13:39] <ting_> blue-frog_: are u around there ?
[13:40] <blue-frog_> ting_: yes
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, That wrote the mbr to hd0,0 for you, it does not point to the correct drive with ubuntu.  Why not reinstall.. it will probably be less hassle than what you are doing now
[13:40] <waylandbill> hyw: you need to edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and verify that the device and partition are correct for your root partition.
[13:40] <komputes> where is the wakeup from suspend script located?
[13:40] <komputes> located*
[13:41] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: I would reinstall but I am afraid that I might confront the same issue again
[13:41] <genii> komputes: /etc/acpi
[13:41] <Vlet> How could one automatically create a directory called 'Mail' in any new users home directory?
[13:41] <ting_> blue-frog_: you know how i can recover my last keyboard setting. I installed the keytouch and it change my keyboard config and now my left ctrl button doesnt work. hehehe so it is a little bit hard for me to do copy&paste
[13:42] <Gpalco> Is TEMPLATES folder in UBUNTU just a plane folder, or are there any specific setting for it ??? NEED help1
[13:42] <jrib> Vlet: create it in /etc/skel/
[13:42] <genii> Vlet: /etc/skel contains user directory templates
[13:42] <jrib> Gpalco: plain folder
[13:42] <unop__> waylandbill, the actual official ubuntu reasoning for libata : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[13:42] <blue-frog_> ting_: remove keytouch should be ok
[13:42] <Vlet> jrib, genii: thankya :)
[13:42] <kal0o> hi
[13:43] <waylandbill> hyw: I don't believe a reinstall is necessary. You just have to tell grub the correct location is all. Installing into the mbr doesn't fix an incorrect location in menu.lst.
[13:43] <Pici> Gpalco: its just a folder in your home directory named Templates
[13:43] <blue-frog_> ting_: but at the same time I never used keytouch so I don't what it is changing
[13:43] <Gpalco> thank you jrib, could you please copy the exact name of it here. 'cause mine is deleted and I wanna creat same one for templates to work
[13:43] <hyw> waylandbill: how do I list all the drives connected to my pc
[13:43] <jrib> Gpalco: Templates
[13:43] <ting_> blue-frog_: hehe no problem, let see if i can recover my keyboard
[13:43] <yowshi> grrr i tried to look up how tos for making ubuntu install off a flash drive but all i get is how to install to one
[13:43] <waylandbill> unop_: what kernel version started using libata? I have 2.6.22, but when I do mount, I have only hda partitions. Is this only for new installations maybe?
[13:44] <ting_> blue-frog_: thanks very much any way
[13:44] <pro-rsoft> Hi, does anybody know a lightweight text editor which can handle big files and can replace using regexp?
[13:44] <jrib> pro-rsoft: vim, emacs?
[13:44] <Pici> pro-rsoft: I beleive scite or scintilla can do that.
[13:44] <pro-rsoft> k
[13:44] <pro-rsoft> will try them, thanks
[13:44] <yowshi> ooops didnt mean to close xhcta
[13:44] <blue-frog_> ting_: in the meantime to copy/paste, highlight what you want to copy and then paste by clicking your whell (or both buttons at the same time)
[13:44] <Gpalco> Pici, jrib, for some reason Nautilus doesn't wanna read the templates in it!!! Want them badly
[13:44] <ting_> blue-frog_: is there a way to auto-detect again the keyboard ?
[13:44] <jrib> pro-rsoft: make sure sed is not a better tool fro what you want to do
[13:45] <pro-rsoft> k
[13:45] <jrib> Gpalco: pastebin ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[13:45] <waylandbill> hyw: sudo sfdisk -l
[13:45] <pro-rsoft> will try to do it with sed, thanks
[13:45] <vijay> hi
[13:45] <art_> hello...i just installed opera but the shortcut is not showing up in applications.
[13:45] <Gpalco> jrib, ???
[13:45] <ting_> blue-frog_:  it is just my left ctrl key is working but the system doesnt recognize
[13:45] <Gpalco> jrib, is it something to read, run?
[13:46] <unop__> waylandbill, it appears that ubuntu started using libata patches around the launch of edgy -- i think the kernel team merged libata around 2.6.19 or so -- but i think the failover exists for systems/chipsets not compatible with libata - which explains why some people see both /dev/hd* and /dev/sd*
[13:46] <jrib> Gpalco: in a terminal, type 'gedit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs'.  Then paste that on the pastebin
[13:46] <jrib> !pastebin > gpalco (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:46] <Gpalco> jrib, aaaaa
[13:46] <waylandbill> unop_: must be my chipset falls in that category. Was just curious.
[13:46] <Gpalco> jrib, uno sec
[13:47] <unop__> waylandbill, whats really weird is that some people see /dev/sd* one release and /dev/hd* in another -- so, it depends on which side the wind is blowing too :)
[13:47] <Araneidae> One one recently installed Ubuntu box Ctrl-Alt-F1 works (takes me to the console), on other virtually identical(?) box nothing happens.  What's the difference?!
[13:47] <waylandbill> hyw: keep in mind that the format that grub uses is a little different than how ubuntu's.
[13:47] <Uatec> can you get boot CDs for ubuntu that allow you to install over the internet?
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !install | Uatec
[13:47] <ubotu> Uatec: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Misdirected.. sorry
[13:47] <ApOgEE-> /me goin out
[13:48] <hyw> waylandbill: lol yeah probably I'll have another problem
[13:48] <blue-frog_> ting_: try     setxkbmap us   but I am afraid keytouch changed something else
[13:48] <ere4si> !minimal | Uatec
[13:48] <ubotu> Uatec: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:48] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, i could use a little help i am not sure what to make of your script
[13:48]  * finek_ lol
[13:48] <hyw> waylandbill: 3 adys trying to install ubuntu now
[13:48] <finek_> /me lol
[13:48] <Adys> hyw:  hmm?
[13:48] <Gpalco> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60282/
[13:48] <LiGhTOnE> does someone know this error: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/128645/
[13:48] <hyw> Adys: lol hi
[13:49] <Gpalco> jrib, and I think I know the prob now
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, Let me go over your problem again.  You cant burn a cd right? you are running live, your hd install is trashed etc,
[13:49] <Adys> needed something? :P
[13:49] <Gpalco> jrib, =)))
[13:49] <yowshi> no i am not running live
[13:49] <yowshi> i dont have any cd's
[13:49] <yowshi> i need to do a freesh install though
[13:49] <Gpalco> jrib, SO greatfull!!!!
[13:49] <d0ntp2nic> hi all
[13:49] <jrib> Gpalco: np
[13:49] <yowshi> but i cant get any cd's till nexst month
[13:49] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, what command gives you that output?
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, please keep it on one line
[13:49] <yowshi> a long time to wait with a crippled system
[13:49] <hyw> Adys: will try to fix /boot/grub/menu.1st to be able to boot to ubuntu andhopefully it works
[13:50] <LiGhTOnE> unop: after installing realtek drivers i have this error
[13:50] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, i am not running a live cd right now, i just need to reinstall but i dont have any cd's and cant get any for 2 weeks
[13:50] <Gpalco> jrib, fixed it !!! WORKS !!!! Thank you
[13:50] <waylandbill> hyw: I had to do the same thing when I got a new drive. I rearranged the partitions and had to edit the menu.lst. It seems a huge task, but it's not bad once you've done it a time or two.
[13:50] <GSMX> how can i install 8.04?
[13:50] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, ok, but where are you seeing this error? is it because you are doing something?
[13:50] <Adys> GSMX: if you're asking, you probably shouldnt
[13:50] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, and i cant use the sudo command which is why i am reinstalling
[13:50] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah always good to learn
[13:51] <ere4si> !hardy | GSMX
[13:51] <ubotu> GSMX: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:51] <GSMX> Adys: todays the beta launch
[13:51] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: yes i am trying to login
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, even recovery mode does not let you sudo rihght
[13:51] <ikonia> GSMX: so ?
[13:51] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, right
[13:51] <ubuntuisloved> im new to electricsheep screensaver and really wanted a transparent one does anyone know what its downloading on first load its taking forever?
[13:51] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, but i do have access to the root account
[13:51] <Adys> doesnt change much to the matter :)
[13:51] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, and you can't login because of this?
[13:51] <HinHin> woot :D... Soul Storm installs + runs awesome via wine!
[13:51] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved: where di dyou get that screen saver
[13:51] <GSMX> so i'm going to give it a try
[13:51] <HinHin> ^_^ very happy
[13:51] <Adys> but join #ubuntu+1 if you are sure you want to install it
[13:51] <LiGhTOnE> unop: yes
[13:52] <waylandbill> hyw: if you pastebin the sfdisk output, I can try to give you the grub format for your ubuntu location if you can't seem to figure it out.
[13:52] <ubuntuisloved> sudo apt-get install electricsheep
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, what about root account and trying to run that script
[13:52] <LiGhTOnE> unop: i can log in konsole
[13:52] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved: ok, so its the one from the repo, I think it's a map file it downloads on first run
[13:52] <ubuntuisloved> then im loading as from terminal electricsheep and its says please be patient while the first sheep is downloaded
[13:53] <yowshi> i cant use the sudo command at all
[13:53] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved: why are you launching it from the terminal ?
[13:53] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved: I guess be patient
[13:53] <ubuntuisloved> do you know like how long it takes im getting impatient
[13:53] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, you mean the console/virtual terminal
[13:53] <unop__> ?
[13:53] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, i tried removing the sudo instances from your script but it didnt work
[13:53] <hyw> waylandbill: having difficulties to boot to LiveCD froze at checking batery and running local boot scripts /etc/rc.local
[13:53] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, what happens when you issue the  startx command?
[13:53] <Error4o4> does tar -czf   keep the file/folder permissions??
[13:53] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: yes and don´t know how to fix this from console
[13:53] <ubuntuisloved> ikonia: ohh because i didnt see the transparency option in gnome-screensaver
[13:53] <ikonia> Error4o4: it does (check out -p tar cvpf)
[13:54] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved does it support transparency
[13:54] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, the sudoers file isnt gone it just seems no account has any permissions to access it any more
[13:54] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, what happens when you type startx ??
[13:54] <Error4o4> ikonia: so -p  needs to be there too? the man page was not 100% clear to me
[13:54] <hyw> waylandbill: deleting quite and splash as Jack_Sparrow suggested earlier will see how it goes
[13:54] <ikonia> Error4o4 better to use -p to preserve
[13:54] <ubuntuisloved> ikonia: umm from what i googled yes thats the only reason im trying to use it unless you got any other suggestions for transparent screensavers
[13:54] <Error4o4> ikonia: ok thx
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, there isnt too much we can do for you.  you dont have a live cd and you dont have a working os.. unlesss you want to trow any old os on there
[13:55] <LiGhTOnE> unop_: how? prompt: startx?
[13:55] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved don't forget some features are only available in some versions
[13:55] <waylandbill> hyw: I had to do the same thing on my laptop interestingly. Seemed to hang with quiet and splash. I prefer the output anyway. :-)
[13:55] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, just type it out at the cli
[13:55] <blue-frog_> hyw: paste your menu.list at pastebin.com
[13:55] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, i have a flash stick i figured i could make an iso bootable on it
[13:55] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: ok
[13:55] <hyw> waylandbill: lol
[13:55] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, just this >  startx
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, not without a working os to get it on there.
[13:55] <ubuntuisloved> ikonia: ouch dont tell me that i hope im not wasting bandwidth for nothing
[13:55] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved: perhaps better investigation is neeeded before jumping in then
[13:55] <hyw> blue-frog_: sure
[13:55] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, i can run commands that need sudo i just cant use the sudo part
[13:56] <yowshi> Jack_Sparrow, like i said the root account still has privs and i have access to it
[13:56] <ikonia> yowshi: just create a sudoers file
[13:56] <ubuntuisloved> ikonia: yea i'll do more research thnks
[13:56] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: Fatal Server Error Server is alread aktive for display 0
[13:56] <yowshi> ikonia, the sudoers file is still there. and we tried fixing it there. my filesystem is mucked up bad
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia, we tried all of that yesterday.. he really messed things up
[13:56] <unop__> ikonia, it's much more than just that -- we tried it all yesterday -- seems like a permission problem all over the filesystem
[13:56] <ikonia> just re-install then if i'ts that bad
[13:56] <waylandbill> yowshi: if you can get in as root, via su or logging in. You should be able to view /etc/sudoers and see if there is an issue with it
[13:57] <ikonia> unop__: understood, I don't know the full story
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia, he has no live cd from which to do it
[13:57] <Hewus> hi guys. SuperTuxRacer just crashed on me; everything is back to normal except my mouse is frozen and unresponsive. Anyone know a command or two that will reset my mouse? I don't feel like restarting right now..
[13:57] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: buy one/download one/get one from a magazine
[13:57] <waylandbill> yowshi: or you already had... I must type slow. :-)
[13:57] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, ok -- try this --  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop; startx
[13:57] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: the no cd thing doesn't wash well with me
[13:57] <LiGhTOnE> unop__:ok
[13:57] <yowshi> isnt there a way to make the livecd bootable from a flash disk?
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia, coses one is two weeks away.. that is what we were discussing
[13:58] <donkey7186> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60284/
[13:58] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: there is no-where local he can download, or buy a magazne with one on ?
[13:58] <unop__> yowshi,  http://edoceo.com/liber/ubuntu-live-usb
[13:58] <waylandbill> yowshi: is /etc/sudoers permissioned correct? I think it will not work with anything but 400.
[13:58] <ikonia> yowshi: if you want to make the livecd bootable from a flash drive, then you must have the livecd ?
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia, I know several guys in the field that need to wait 2 weeks for any mail..  but those are special cases
[13:58] <yowshi> waylandbill, yes wayland this was all tried last night
[13:59] <yowshi> ikonia i have the livecd iomage
[13:59] <ikonia> yowshi: so what is stopping you burning it, where are you ? is there no-where with access to a burner ?
[13:59] <yowshi> ikonia, i have no cd's and cant get any more till next month
[13:59] <unop__> yowshi,  http://edoceo.com/liber/ubuntu-live-usb  :)
[13:59] <ikonia> yowshi: I don't mean to push the matter, but what is stopping you gaining access to cd's ?
[13:59] <yowshi> thanks unop__
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> unop__, Not without a working system
[14:00] <yowshi> ikonia, lack of money
[14:00] <unop__> Jack_Sparrow, sorry?
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, COme back in two weeks
[14:00] <ikonia> yowshi no-one will lend you a cd and you don't have $5 for a cd cake box ?
[14:00] <screenname92834> hello
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834: howdy
[14:00] <screenname92834> folks I have mounted a network drive with cifs
[14:01] <unop__> ikonia, he probably lives on a desolate island off of newfoundland :)
[14:01] <valberg> hey :) does anyone know how i get my sound working? when i try to run alsamixer i get this error : "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" ...
[14:01] <unop__> :p
[14:01] <screenname92834> and then it refuses to let me enter the directory (fnar fnar)
[14:01] <waylandbill> yowshi: did you try purging sudo package and reinstalling as well?
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[14:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:01] <yowshi> waylandbill, purging the sudo package?
[14:01] <ikonia> waylandbill: Jack_Sparrow and unop__ where explaining his whole system is messed up, just just sudo
[14:01] <valberg> Jack_Sparrow, i can't open volume control
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834: do you have access rights on the folder?
[14:02] <waylandbill> ikonia: more than just sudo? :-O
[14:02] <valberg> it says that it didn't find any device
[14:02] <ikonia> waylandbill everything apparantly
[14:02] <yowshi> waylandbill, permissions on every system file is fracked
[14:03] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: done, displaymanager is running, but no gui login screen. blank orange scr.
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Grenade landed in the permissions bunker
[14:03] <waylandbill> yowski: any cause known?
[14:03] <yowshi> last time i ever tell pc file manager to do something on all folders in .wine
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> User error
[14:03] <screenname92834> sudo mount -t cifs //networkcomputer/dir /mnt -o username=user,workgroup=wkgp,dir_mode=0766
[14:03] <pjv> what's a good gui program to burn avi movies
[14:03] <unop__> ikonia, waylandbill, I assume it's because he tried resetting permissions on his ~/.wine directory -- but there's a link pointing z: back to / ,.. so, in doing so, he did quite a lot of damage
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834: does that username have access to the share?
[14:03] <yowshi> waylandbill, i was changing the permissions for me .wine folder with pc file manager
[14:03] <ikonia> unop__ seems a reasonable assumption
[14:03] <screenname92834> how would I discover that? with ls
[14:04] <ikonia> screenname92834: what do you want to discover ?
[14:04] <linuxmonger> Is there a simple way to pop a message up on a remote machine? I have ssh and sudo there, I want something that works from the command line and can be scheduled in cron, either locally or remotely - I guess I'm looking for an x-wall, but so far I can't get anything to actually work.
[14:04] <screenname92834> i want to cd to the mounted dir
[14:04] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, you should actually be in the desktop -- so you dont see the desktop now?
[14:04] <ikonia> linuxmonger: dtpopup, dtwindow, something like that
[14:04] <Homere> hello
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834: right click the folder -> properties -> security
[14:04] <ikonia> screenname92834 what's stopping you ?
[14:05] <yowshi> anyway back to reinstall preperations. how do i keep all my panel stuff and various programme settings. tey arent all in /home after all
[14:05] <arj> hi, what is the ubuntu channel for talking about virtualization?
[14:05] <screenname92834> ActionParsnip: I'm not using gnome
[14:05] <Seveas> linuxmonger, you could use notification-daemon
[14:05] <ikonia> yowshi: don't take / keep anything as if you keep anything you'll be installing stuff with questionable permissinos
[14:05] <kleingeist> is there a possibility to log _every_ url my browser (firefox) requests?
[14:05] <ikonia> Seveas: thats a cool idea
[14:05] <Seveas> ikonia, I'm full of cool ideas :)
[14:05] <unop__> yowshi, all your user preferences are stored in $HOME ..
[14:05] <yowshi> ikonia, hmmmmm i have like 160 gigs of files i need to keep
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  is the share on a windows box
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> yowshi, and no backups...
[14:06] <ikonia> yowshi: as longer as they are meant to be owned by "you" as in your user, that shouldn't be a problem
[14:06] <kleingeist> is there a plugin that saves every url? or something
[14:06] <screenname92834> I think so
[14:06] <Seveas> kleingeist, you'll want to look at the 'tamper data' extension
[14:07] <kleingeist> merci
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  then you need to get on there and check the file permissions as I stated
[14:07] <yowshi> holy crap the cp for my home folder still hasnt finished
[14:07] <screenname92834> ok then
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  or if you enabled remote logon you can do it with rdesktop :)
[14:07] <ubuntuisloved> is it possible to lock the screen without having it blank/black color and keeping the screen transparent like?
[14:07] <hyw> waylandbill: I typed gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   in LiveCD it opens an empty file
[14:07] <screenname92834> but if the security refuses to allow people to connect to it, then why is the mount successful?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  you can mount anything. doesnt mean you can access it
[14:08] <yowshi> ok so any otjher preparations i need. folders for things like my email inbox and stuff thats all covered?
[14:08] <Seveas> hyw, the live cd doesn't use grub
[14:08] <LiGhTOnE> unop: there is a desktop, but after login there´s an error message, when i close it the login screen appears again
[14:08] <Lamego> hyw, you need to chroot to your HD root dir first
[14:08] <unop__> hyw, the liveCD runs off a CD .. and grub is only applicable to harddrives .. thats why its empty
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> hyw, menu.LST   but lower case ?
[14:08] <screenname92834> I can mount it successfully with smb protocol
[14:08] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, can you let me know that that error message is ?
[14:08] <linuxmonger> Can I get any pointers on using notification-daemon? It doesn't seem to have a man page.
[14:08] <waylandbill> unop_: I would've never paid a second thought to the z: symbolic link. Must've been done as root, as changing as the user certainly would've failed after following the link.
[14:09] <unop__> waylandbill, it was done as root :)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834: check permissions on the local pc for write / read access for the username you are mounting as
[14:09] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: this one:http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/128645/
[14:09] <yowshi> also where can i find the md5sums for the cd's so i know my downloads didnt go bad
[14:09] <ere4si> linuxmonger: thought about a script using   gedit somefile.txt
[14:09] <waylandbill> hyw: if you are on the livecd, you need to mount the hard drive where ubuntu is located to somewhere like /mnt
[14:09] <hyw> Jack_Sparrow: gksudo gedit menu.list empty
[14:09] <screenname92834> ActionParsnip: I can mount it successfully with the smb protocol
[14:09] <Seveas> linuxmonger, you need notify-send from the libnotify-bin package
[14:09] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, you really shouldnt be seeing the login screen at all -- i wonder if you got the command right
[14:10] <linuxmonger> But that won't pop up a message on my son's computer telling him to go to bed.
[14:10] <unop__> LiGhTOnE,  try this from the console again - sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop; startx
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  you could mount your windows directory, doesnt mean you have access rights
[14:10] <Seveas> linuxmonger, it will
[14:10] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: i´ll try again with that command
[14:10] <unop__> linuxmonger, ha ha -- you can always knock on his door :)
[14:10] <hyw> waylandbill: /mnt ?
[14:10] <screenname92834> When I say successfully I mean that I can move files around
[14:10] <ere4si> linuxmonger: it will open gedit showing the contents of the named file
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> screenname92834:  so where's the issue
[14:11] <waylandbill> hyw: for instance mine would be sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt  (yours may be different based on device naming)
[14:11] <ere4si> linuxmonger: and that could be in large, bold text
[14:11] <screenname92834> I said I could mount it successfully with the smbfs protocol which is not cifs
[14:11] <screenname92834> so it's ok with smbfs but  not ok with cifs
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> then use smbfs (?)
[14:12] <burken_> would it be any difference between the daily build 19/3 and the beta release
[14:12] <unop__> screenname92834, smb and cifs are quite synonymous -- they are pretty much one and the same
[14:12] <screenname92834> I can't for reasons I am  not going to explain
[14:12] <Seveas> burken_, there might
[14:12] <Seveas> !hardy | burken_
[14:12] <ubotu> burken_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:12] <screenname92834> unop__: no they aren't
[14:12] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah how can I get the list of drives connected
[14:12] <bullgard4> Pici: Why does the DEB program package 'pm-utils' recommend the DEB program package 'radeontools' although it is not available to me?
[14:12] <waylandbill> hyw: sudo sfdisk -l
[14:12] <ubuntuisloved> Let me ask a better question where does one find the options to change settings for screensavers i dont see an option to change text on screensaver GLTEXT
[14:13] <Rabbitbunny> bullgard4: you don't have enough repos enabled.
[14:13] <burken_> Seveas: but not a large difference right
[14:13] <hyw> waylandbill: heh I typed number 1
[14:13] <Stroganoff> ubuntuisloved, screensavers are stupid.
[14:13] <fake_id_> join #ubuntu-my
[14:13] <Seveas> burken_, correct, but if there's a difference then it's important enough to break all release freezes so you'll probably want it
[14:13] <KR-data> is it safe to force an ldconfig (in synaptic) to stop? I can see it's running it, but I has run for over an hour now, which seems too long for me
[14:13] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: done, now i´m back at the prompt.
[14:14] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: I agree what i really want is to have my pc lock and not blank the screen black
[14:14] <unop__> screenname92834, check out the wikipedia entry for CIFS :)
[14:14] <burken_> Seveas: ok, thanks
[14:14] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: I've not found any real answer through googling
[14:14] <bullgard4> Rabbitbunny: What repository stores the DEB program package 'radeontools'?
[14:14] <Stroganoff> ubuntuisloved, isn't there a blank screensaver?
[14:14] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, did you get any output?
[14:15] <Pici> !info radeontools
[14:15] <ubotu> Package radeontools does not exist in gutsy
[14:15] <waylandbill> hyw: after you are able to mount the ubuntu root, you will edit the file as /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst.
[14:15] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: yes but hence i want it to not blank the screen just to lock it
[14:15] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: yes everything seems ok
[14:15] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: keeping all items under it running but locking down the pc
[14:15] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, and you are in a desktop session now?
[14:15] <hyw> waylandbill: hmm ok it is /dev/sdc2 start 250 end 1494 System Linux S
[14:16] <bullgard4> Pici: So I can safely ignore the recommendation of the maintainer of the pm-utilities package?
[14:16] <Pici> bullgard4: yes.
[14:16] <waylandbill> hyw: sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt
[14:16] <Adys> is it okayish to use the ubuntu or debian repositories for eee's xandros?
[14:16] <Stroganoff> ubuntuisloved, you don't mean running but showing?
[14:16] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: no, a console session, no desktop around with alt-ctrl f7
[14:16] <Lamego> Adys, not likely
[14:16] <Stroganoff> ubuntuisloved you want to lock without hiding the apps?
[14:16] <bullgard4> Pici, Rabbitbunny : Thank you for advising.
[14:16] <Seeeb> what does "depmod -a" do?
[14:16] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, what happens when you type this out??   startx
[14:16] <xphisher> hey guys.. i wanted to know if ubuntu has a site or program that teaches newbies about terminal commands and such
[14:16] <xphisher> besides the wiki or guides
[14:17] <hyw> waylandbill: ok no errors.. what is it supposed ot do
[14:17] <hyw> to
[14:17] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: yea
[14:17] <Adys> Lamego: Any alternative? Im trying to install openssh-server and xsane on it particularly
[14:17] <Seeeb> xphisher: there are tons of it, just google for "linux commands"
[14:17] <Lamego> xphisher, that is Linux and bash shell, there is a LOT of documentation for it on the net
[14:17] <Adys> and those are just not there
[14:17] <ubuntuisloved> Stroganoff: hence if someone in my office walks by they would think i just stepped away and it protects my pc
[14:17] <Pici> !cli | xphisher
[14:17] <ubotu> xphisher: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:17] <waylandbill> hyw: good now you have that partition under /mnt and can edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:17] <unop__> xphisher, it depends on which aspect of terminal commands you're after -- system administration, shell scripting, etc, etc
[14:17] <screenname92834> :-/
[14:17] <Lamego> Adys, you should not use repositories which are not officialy supported by your distribution, openssh-server should be on your regular repository
[14:18] <LiGhTOnE> unop__: after startx screen gets blank, but no desktop
[14:18] <Lamego> anyway, this is not a xandros support chan :)
[14:18] <Adys> Lamego: thats pretty much the problem, its not :P
[14:18] <Adys> aye
[14:18] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, did you say that the system worked fine before you installed realtek drivers?
[14:18] <hyw> waylandbill: gksudo edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:18] <hyw> waylandbill: ?
[14:19] <bazhang> Adys: check #eeepc and their wiki for that
[14:19] <Adys> cheers :)
[14:19] <xphisher> unop_: yes.. i'm a newbie with linux and I'm trying to get myself familiar with the commands.  and i wanted to know if there was a tutorial program i can run or some exercises that won't cause me to mess up my computer.
[14:19] <LiGhTOnE> unop: yes don´t know how to get rid off the driver
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xphisher: man <command>
[14:19] <waylandbill> hyw: gedit
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> xphisher: or goole
[14:19] <AboSamoor> i want to enable compiz with Intel 965 chipset, i followed many solutions none works :( , can anyone help me ?
[14:20] <QuickGold> how do I determine the location of sendmail?
[14:20] <bazhang> !training | xphisher
[14:20] <ubotu> xphisher: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[14:20] <hyw> waylandbill: hmm still empty
[14:20] <ere4si> xphisher: there is a manual for each command  - in a terminal type  man "command"  e.g. man depmod
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> QuickGold:  type which sendmail
[14:20] <unop__> xphisher,   http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/   http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[14:20] <waylandbill> hyw: if you browse to /mnt/boot/grub in the file manager, do you see grub's files?
[14:20] <xphisher> thank you.
[14:20] <QuickGold> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[14:20] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, how did you install the driver?
[14:21] <bazhang> www.ubuntuguide.org xphisher
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> QuickGold:  its really good for ln -s :)
[14:21] <LiGhTOnE> unop: it was an automatic install with : ./install
[14:21] <QuickGold> Fpr php.ini, what should I put for the sendmail_path?
[14:21] <linuxmonger> Seveas: notify-send is close, but I get dbus error messages, even when using sudo, any thoughts?
[14:21] <hyw> waylandbill: sudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub  ?
[14:22] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, did you have to do a ./configure or make before that?
[14:22] <LiGhTOnE> unop: no wasn´t necessary
[14:22] <waylandbill> hyw: let's try a terminal. do you get any listings from "ls /mnt/boot/grub"
[14:22] <unop__> LiGhTOnE, can you pastebin the output of the ./install file -- perhaps we can learn from there
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> QuickGold: is that the path to the sendmail binary?
[14:22] <AboSamoor> i want to enable compiz with Intel 965 chipset, i followed many solutions none works :( , can anyone help me ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> hyw, use gksudo not sudo for gui apps
[14:23] <LiGhTOnE> unop: i tried manually with ./configure but there where errors in both
[14:23] <kkathman> I have an opportunity to pick up a really heavy duty system but it has an intel 965 chipset + a Core2Duo processor - whats the support level for this combo?
[14:23] <QuickGold> ActionParsnip: the path is /usr/sbin/sendmail
[14:23] <Seveas> linuxmonger, sudo -u user_to_run_as -i
[14:23] <Seveas> then run notify-send
[14:23] <LiGhTOnE> unop: compiler couldn´t create executables, something like that
[14:23] <hyw> waylandbill:  shows default device.map e2fs fat_Stage1 installed version .. etc
[14:24] <stefano_> is there an Equalizer plugin for totem?
[14:24] <waylandbill> hyw: and menu.lst too I hope
[14:24] <LiGhTOnE> unop: is there a startup sequence in linux i can modify?
[14:25] <hyw> waylandbill: I'll be back
[14:25] <Diem> What's the shortcut to get to a blank terminal?
[14:25] <beddamatrix> mi serve un aiuto!!!!!
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> AboSamoor: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288392
[14:25] <Seveas> !it | beddamatrix
[14:25] <ubotu> beddamatrix: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:25] <LiGhTOnE> Diem: alt-ctrl F1
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> AboSamoor: near the bottom
[14:25] <Diem> thanks
[14:25] <Diem> :P goodday
[14:26] <LiGhTOnE> ;-)
[14:26] <Diem> It doesnt work?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> lo Dr_Willis
[14:27] <Finnish> AARGH!
[14:27] <Diem> CTRL ALT F1 didn't work
[14:27] <linuxmonger> That still gives dbus errors,
[14:27] <Finnish> I installed Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 on a laptop. After GRUB it shows only black screen!!!
[14:28] <Finnish> Video card is  ATI Radeon XPress 1100
[14:28] <Dr_Willis_> Finnish:  try the recovery/failsafe gryb entry yet?
[14:28] <LiGhTOnE> Diem: i am absolute newbie, but it must work if linux is loaded.
[14:28] <thesurvivorman> Diem, is it possible that you have another action assigned to that key combination
[14:28] <Finnish> Not yet. What should I do in that mode?
[14:28] <Diem> I just updated to 7.10 does that make a difference
[14:28] <thesurvivorman> It should work.
[14:28] <LiGhTOnE> Diem: no
[14:29] <Dr_Willis_> Finnish:  you may need to install the ati drivers., or set xorg to use the radeon, or vesa drivers so youc an get X going, to use the restricted-manager tools.
[14:29] <bazhang> kkathman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=610407 this seems to address the vid card; the core 2 duo works well in gutsy and ubuntu+1
[14:29] <Dr_Willis_> Finnish:  you can install the drivers from the console. BUt i dont know the specifics.
[14:29] <ere4si> Finnish: in recovery kernel type   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and choose defaults for all except vid card - choose vesa - it is a failsafe
[14:30] <ere4si> Finnish: then you can install the proper drivers
[14:30] <Uatec> hey
[14:30] <Diem> I did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to change graphics card could I have set the wrong keyboard
[14:31] <Uatec> i just installed destar using apt-get but when i run it i get the following message: http://www.rafb.net/p/FvcSmX69.html
[14:31] <Dr_Willis_> Diem:  its possible.  :)
[14:31] <Uatec> it looks probably like i just need to update something
[14:31] <Lamego> Diem, just rerun the configure
[14:31] <Uatec> but i can't imagine what, does anybody have any ideas?
[14:31] <Diem> thanks guys will try
[14:31] <Dr_Willis_> !info destar
[14:31] <ubotu> destar (source: destar): management interface for the Asterisk PBX. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 181 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[14:31] <Finnish> Ok, I'll try that after coffee, need to calm down a bit...
[14:31] <encryptz> anyone know why, when clicking on an administration utility in the System -> Administration menu, it won't ask for the password the first time, but clicking it a second time is successful?
[14:32] <bullgard4> Pici: I made a mistake: The name of the DEB program package is not 'radeontools' but 'radeontool'. This package is installed on my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop computer and thus the recommendation of the pm-utilities maintainer fulfilled.
[14:32] <LiGhTOnE> nuop: i have an output: Setting up ALSA failed with error message: libasound.so.2 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[14:32] <ere4si> Finnish: coffee isn't so great at calming folks down :) - but a bit of time is :)
[14:32] <encryptz> this goes for anything that requires admin access, including update-manager
[14:32] <encryptz> i find it very annoying
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> encryptz: your admin pass is remembered if you set it. once you put it in for some stuff it ok. specailly from cli
[14:33] <Pici> encryptz: It caches the password for a short amount of time after you enter it.
[14:33] <encryptz> ActionParsnip: yes, but it takes twice every time to get the initial dialog asking for it
[14:34] <speedhunt3r> hi... need some help regarding my wireless connection... windows easily picks it up, and it stays connected... but in Ubuntu, the connection drops alot... and it usually doesn't reconnect till I reboot. Given that the signal strength is low, is there anything I can do in Ubuntu to get max connectivity out of my situation?
[14:34] <encryptz> Pici: i'm aware of that. but the initial access takes twice to pull up the pass prompt, before caching. i'd like it to ask just once
[14:34] <LiGhTOnE> is there a way to stop linux loading sound libraries?
[14:35] <whatspy> hi, what's the *name* of the application launched when we use when we click Locations --> connect to server...
[14:36] <encryptz> whatspy: nautilus-connect-server
[14:36] <jrib> whatspy: it's probably part of nautilus since file -> connect to server in nautilus is the same thing
[14:36] <Lamego> nautilus-connect-server
[14:36] <Uatec> nautilus-connect-server
[14:37] <Uatec> any ideas? http://www.rafb.net/p/FvcSmX69.html
[14:37] <xomp> Can anyone explain this "roaming mode"? I have somehow blown up  my internet connection messing with this and now I can't get online with my laptop via wired or wireless...
[14:38] <Lamego> Uatec, the app that you are running is not compatible with the installed python quixote  library
[14:38] <Uatec> python quixote eh?
[14:38] <encryptz> xomp: you have NetworkManager managing your network connections
[14:38] <Uatec> hmm, i wonder if i can update them in anyway then
[14:38] <Four23619> When exactly is Hardy Beta out?
[14:38] <xomp> encryptz, yes, I do, is that wrong?
[14:38] <albech> im looking for a nice way to turn my Nokia N95 into a remote control for my Ubuntu box.. Anyone have an idea?
[14:38] <encryptz> xomp: no. that's what 'roaming' means
[14:39] <encryptz> xomp: uncheck 'roaming', and set everything static if you'd like
[14:39] <whatspy> thank you
[14:39] <xomp> encryptz, ok, I've tried disabling and enabling roaming, I honestly think I've clicked and unchecked every possibility there is and I still can't get online lol
[14:39] <encryptz> xomp: with wifi, or cat5?
[14:39] <hwilde> what's the best way to remove the gui after a desktop installation, to make it more like the server install?
[14:39] <sbaynham> Can anybody help me playing css'd DVDs, I've install ibdvdread, libdvdcss2 libdvdnav and everything else I can think of, but I still can't play encrypted DVDs through any application. I can't even mount them. I've been to /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3 and run the install.sh thing, but it still doesn't work. Neither does automatix.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> albech: you can get vnc / rdesktop for it to run it
[14:40] <bazhang> Four23619: #ubuntu+1 please
[14:40] <Four23619> Ok.
[14:40] <xomp> encryptz, I was messing with it to "try" and get my wifi working (which still doesn't work) but now I can't get a connection via cat5 :(
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs
[14:40] <albech> ActionParsnip: that might be a way..
[14:40] <hwilde> uhhh
[14:41] <sugoruyo> hi i'm trying to clone an HFS+ partition from an internal SATA HDD to an external USB, i'm doing that with dd. I started this morning and i was getting 5.5MB/sec throughput (which i found slow, but adequate). At some point i began to see a decline in speed and the extern. HDD was hot so i hit ^C to let the thing cool down, now tryin' to pick up where i left i get like 650KB/sec in throughput which is veeeeery slow and i hope is software rela
[14:41] <sugoruyo> ted cuz if the USB HDD was damaged while copyin' earlier i am so dead
[14:41] <encryptz> xomp: could be several things. probably best, is to reset roaming, then reboot
[14:41] <xomp> encryptz, ok, do you know how to reset roaming? I'm new to all this heh
[14:42] <sugoruyo> does anyone have an idea how to diagnose and|or fix this?
[14:42] <Uatec> that's weird Lamego, the destar installer chose and installed it's own version of python and quixote
[14:42] <encryptz> xomp: click the network applet in the system tray, do manual configuration, and make sure wireless and wired are set to roaming
[14:42] <sugoruyo> i'm getting my info on how dd's doing by kill -USR1 <dd-pid>
[14:42] <encryptz> xomp: gotta run. bbiab
[14:42] <Diem> I made it work but now my keyboard is set up american :P
[14:43] <xomp> encryptz, I think I've tried that before but will try again :) thanks
[14:43] <cjs> is there a quick answer to "how does ubuntu server edition stack up against other server-geared distros like CentOS/RHEL?"
[14:43] <cjs> trying to decide which to install here ...
[14:44] <xomp> cjs, I don't think this is the channel to ask about server editions
[14:44] <amenado> cjs you want enterprise level? go for rhel suse or oracle
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> cjs: i'd use it for the support but it doesnt perform as well as some of the others
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> cjs: for enterprise i'd run bsd
[14:45] <sugoruyo> does anyone know anything about the problem i just mentioned?
[14:46] <cjs> xomp: the ubuntu channel isn't the right place to ask about ubuntu's server edition?
[14:46] <cjs> that's weird :)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> sugoruyo: usb is slow. have patience
[14:46] <genii> cjs: #ubuntu-server exists :)
[14:47] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[14:47] <sugoruyo> ActionParsnip: 3 hours ago i'd get 5.5mb/s
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> sugoruyo: do it over night :)
[14:47] <sugoruyo> now i get like half
[14:47] <cjs> ah, so it does :)
[14:47] <xomp> sugoruyo, I've been here (on/off) for 2hrs 45mins for a relativily simple problem with no luck yet. Although it seems everyone around me is getting a better support experience :)
[14:47] <sugoruyo> that's what i'm worried about
[14:47] <SirronTM> I'm new to C programming on linux, anybody know where I can find some information on conventions and things?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> xomp: wassup?
[14:48] <xomp> ActionParsnip, wifi not connecting to my router was what the original issue was lol
[14:48] <AboSamoor> SirronTM , you can install gcc as C compiler
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> xomp: ok give us a pastebin of lspci, lsusb and /etc/network/interfaces
[14:48] <doppelgaenger> SiliconViper, C in a nutshel from Oreilly is a good choice
[14:48] <sugoruyo> the disk activity on the USB HDD does not even appear on disk monitor
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> SiliconViper: pointers on c is good too
[14:49] <doppelgaenger> This should go to SirronTM sorry SiliconViper
[14:49] <genii> sugoruyo: It would seem that your data transfer speed issues with dd are related to the condition/temperature of the equipment involved.
[14:49] <xomp> ActionParsnip, and when I was pranking around with network manager disabling and enabling roaming I've now lost my internet on cat5 :(
[14:49] <sugoruyo> that sure as hell ain't USB speed
[14:49] <sugoruyo> genii: like i said it heated up earlier
[14:49] <sugoruyo> so i let it cool down
[14:49] <franco> !it
[14:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> xomp: then rename your /etc/network/interfaces and reboot
[14:49] <sugoruyo> now it's cool (at least the extern.) but it's much slower
[14:49] <xomp> ActionParsnip, ok :)
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xomp:  if its no different name it back, you'll need sudo
[14:51] <genii> sugoruyo: Perhaps you've plugged the external into an usb1 instead of usb2 plug
[14:51] <ggergely> hello.
[14:51] <sugoruyo> genii: it's the same port
[14:51] <xomp> ActionParsnip, rename interfaces interfaces2 output this "Bareword "interfaces" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line1.
[14:52] <metalfan_> hi
[14:52] <sugoruyo> it might be the temp on the disk i'm reading from but i doubt it
[14:52] <metalfan_> whats the default mp3 player on ubuntu?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> sugoruyo: is the usb drive basically a hdd in a caddy. as you could dismantle it and use PATA speed (or SATA if thats what it is)
[14:52] <ggergely> i just want to state that ubuntu sucks. it lacks LVM support, the only useful feature of the lajnugz kernel. i wanted to use it to recover my root password on a machine, but now i'm shot.
[14:52] <metalfan_> ggergely: thx for the input
[14:53] <ere4si> !lvm | ggergely
[14:53] <ubotu> ggergely: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[14:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ggergely, good shot
[14:53] <bazhang> ggergely: any support questions in there?
[14:53] <ggergely> but i do not want to install ubunu
[14:53] <blue-frog_> ggergely: lacks LVM support :)  . you must use something for use but it's not ubuntu then
[14:53] <sugoruyo> ActionParsnip: it's a Seagate FreeAgent, not really dismantleable unless you wanna void the warranty and break stuff in the process (no screws, it's clipped on and has two clips that break when you open it)
[14:53] <ggergely> i wanted to use lvm from a live session
[14:54] <metalfan_> whats the default mp3 player on ubuntu?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> sugoruyo: ah, no dice there then. I always make sure they are dismantlable for REAL speed (USB s slow)
[14:54] <bazhang> !mp3
[14:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:54] <\lart> greetings all..  One of the apt repos I use (packages.medibuntu.org) has an AAAA record published for packages.medibuntu.org.  IPv6 works fine here, but there's no server bound to the IP they've published in the DNS.  Any way to force apt-get/aptitude to use IPv4, other than changing the repo entries to use IPv4 addresses rather than hostnames?
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ggergely, may I have a brief pm
[14:54] <ggergely> you may
[14:54] <bazhang> oops
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> metalfan_: amarok I guess but you can install anything you want
[14:54] <bazhang> !players
[14:54] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[14:54] <sugoruyo> ActionParsnip: i don't really mind USB speed...
[14:54] <sugoruyo> but this is ridiculous
[14:54] <bazhang> metalfan_: see above
[14:54] <xomp> ActionParsnip, is there a way to release and renew the ip address? I can't seem to rename the /etc/network/interfaces at this time :(
[14:54] <metalfan_> wasnt ubuntu sometimes based on gnome?
[14:54] <sugoruyo> 650kb/s is not even USB1.1
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> xomp: not even with sudo mv ./interfaces interfaces.old
[14:55] <jrib> metalfan_: it is
[14:55] <SupaFly> Hey i got conky almost to where i want it, theres just one thing that im still fixing, how do i get conky to show the cpu temp? i installed and ran lm-sensors, and all of that, but it still wont show in conky :S
[14:55] <ere4si> metalfan_: ubuntu uses gnome - kubuntu uses kde - xubuntu uses xfce
[14:55] <SupaFly> when i type "sensors" in the terminal, it will show the correct cpu temp, but it dont in conky
[14:55] <metalfan_> jrib: so whats the default mp3 player?
[14:55] <Finnish> Aargh
[14:56] <bazhang> metalfan_: you choose
[14:56] <xomp> ActionParsnip, that did it lol, apparently my cli skills stink. I did that, I'm now rebooting the laptop.
[14:56] <ere4si> rhythmbox metalfan_
[14:56] <Finnish> I tried VESA and VGA
[14:56] <metalfan_> theres a preselecte default, just tell me
[14:56] <metalfan_> ah, thx
[14:56] <Finnish> And still laptop shows only black screen after GRUB
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: edit xorg.conf and set your graphics REALLY low
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: like 320x640 @ 50hz
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> 16bit colour
[14:57] <Finnish> Ah, ok
[14:58] <bazhang> must have been an interesting PM..
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Finnish, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[14:58] <norty> Question: I installed a game through the add/remove application and I played it and then when I quit all of my windows were messed up, the top part where it says informationa bout the program and the minimize, maximize and close part was completely missing, how do i fix this next time it happens?
[14:59] <chris062689> norty: metacity --replace?
[14:59] <chris062689> Does that work?
[14:59] <chris062689> Alt + F2 (then type) metacity --replace
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, :)
[14:59] <malifal> hello i'm having trouble uninstalling interchange-ui, can anyone help
[15:00] <bazhang> sorry Jack_Sparrow ;]
[15:00] <norty> chris062689, ill try that next time it happens... anyone else have any other ideas?
[15:00] <xomp> ah man he left!!
[15:00] <pcormack> hello all
[15:01] <xomp> ok, who wants to pick up where Actionparsnip left off? He had me rename my /etc/network/interfaces to interfaces.old and reboot now I don't know what to do since he left :/
[15:01] <ere4si> norty: using compiz - desktop effects?
[15:02] <norty> ere4si, I was but that got all messed up/reset
[15:02] <levmatta> hello all, I am having problems suspending my Hardy Alpha6 on a Dell Inspiron 1525
[15:02] <ere4si> norty: and the window was messed up after?
[15:02] <xomp> anybody? I'll award +10 internets for any help?
[15:02] <bazhang> levmatta: #ubuntu+1 please
[15:02] <norty> ere4si, yeah I fixed it by trying to change themes and somehow it reset
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy | levmatta
[15:03] <ubotu> levmatta: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:03] <norty> ere4si, even restarting didn't fix it
[15:03] <levmatta> alright thanks
[15:03] <neverblue> morning
[15:03] <xomp> morning neverblue
[15:04] <bazhang> evening ;]
[15:04] <stefan__> join #ubuntu-de
[15:04] <stefan__> Wrong channel sorry
[15:04] <malifal> hello i'm having trouble uninstalling interchange-ui, can anyone help, it just keeps giving apt and dpkg error, why doesn't dpkg just delete the files and not run the post-init pkgs
[15:04] <Tm_T> hah
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[15:05] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:05] <norty> Question: I've had ubuntu freeze up or the screen go completely blank and unable to force quit anything so that i can resume, ive had to manually hard reset my computer, is there somehow I can quit programs so that i dont have to reset my computer for ubuntu 7.10.... something like ctrl-alt-del for windows?
[15:06] <neverblue> norty, enter a ttyl, ctrl-alt-f1 (or most function keys)
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> F1 - F6
[15:06] <ere4si> norty: that seems to be a common complaint with people using compiz - there is an easy fix but since I don't use it I never paid attention
[15:06] <norty> neverblue, what is a ttyl?
[15:07] <neverblue> norty, then ctrl-alt-f7, should bring you back to your GUI session
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> norty,  /join #Compiz
[15:07] <xomp> can't connect to interwebs, can anyone help?
[15:07] <neverblue> norty, give it a try, ctrl-alt-f1, then ctrl-alt-f7
[15:07] <recon69> hi all, having a problem setting up wireless wpa on my dapper 6.06, get this error "ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported" , can get wireless connection without encryption. anyone got any ideas?
[15:07] <norty> neverblue, ok i did that, it brought me to a black screen with just text and then back to gui again..
[15:08] <ere4si> norty: there is a panel app called force quit that will do that
[15:08] <neverblue> norty, you can use that to view process, and kill if necessary
[15:08] <ere4si> ctrl+alt+F@ then top
[15:08] <recon69> more info at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60293/
[15:08] <norty> ere4si, I tried the force quit apt but that didn't work
[15:08] <norty> :-x
[15:09] <ere4si> norty: when you were running compiz?
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> norty,  sounds like you may need to kill the pid
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[15:09] <norty> ere4si, yes
[15:10] <mysterycool> hey
[15:10] <ere4si> norty: then you need to ask in #compiz
[15:10] <norty> i did, thanks!
[15:10] <mysterycool> my sound is really silent and i need to have it to the full (my speakers) ti listen just a bit
[15:10] <mysterycool> *to
[15:10] <Belisarivs> Hi all.
[15:10] <nick__> does anyone have  a preferred snmp client with a graphical front end?
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> mysterycool,  /join #Alsa
[15:10] <norty> ere4si, what do you use instead of compiz?
[15:11] <Belisarivs> Why does upgrade to Hardy remove restricted-manager?
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Belisarivs, please ask in HArdy room
[15:11] <ere4si> norty: gutsy server with fluxbox window manager
[15:11] <amenado> recon69-> it means your driver does not support that encryption method
[15:11] <St0n3-C0l> Hmm... is Ubuntu 8.04 Beta out?
[15:11] <xomp> lol it's like calling tech support round here, what with all the transfers :)
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[15:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:12] <newTruth_UK> Does Obama use UBUNTU at home ?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> xomp, Just trying to triage the questions.. I am in COmpiz and alsa...
[15:12] <jpatrick> !ot | newTruth_UK
[15:12] <ubotu> newTruth_UK: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:12] <nick__> does anyone have  a preferred snmp client with a graphical front end?
[15:12] <xomp> Jack_Sparrow, I know, just making an observation :)
Which room is about hardy?
[15:12] <ere4si> norty: a pic of the desktop - http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?n=2435
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> newTruth_UK, offtopic...
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu+1
[15:13] <newTruth_UK> sorry
[15:13] <KR-data> is it normal that ldconfig can go on for hours as part of an system update?
[15:13] <xomp> KR-data, mine took about 2 hours
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> xomp, video compiz questions other than basic I work with in compiz and sound issues in alsa
[15:13] <KR-data> xomp, how fast is your system?
[15:13] <norty> ere4si, no offense but that is kind ugly  :)
[15:14] <xomp> KR-data, 3Ghz dual core, 2Gb RAM
[15:14] <ere4si> norty: none taken :)
[15:14] <KR-data> xomp, I'll just look at my computer tomorrow then :S thanks
[15:14] <xomp> smoke break bbs
[15:14] <neverblue> lol @ ere4si gotta be careful with those screen shots :D
[15:15] <ere4si> neverblue: I said oops :)
[15:15] <neverblue> ;)
[15:16] <neverblue> rebooting, bbiab
[15:17] <nick__> my snmp client is where?
[15:20] <rwycuff> does any one here have experience with qmail-ldap and active directory
[15:21] <xomp> +10 internets to whomever can get my ubuntu laptop online!
[15:21] <kurtis> none of the eclipse cvs functions are working, namely the cvs wizard and cvs perpsective. I know this is a known bug. Does anyone know a work around?
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xomp, what network card?  Not that I can help
[15:22] <xomp> Jack_Sparrow, not sure, it shows up as a prism2 usb
[15:22] <kurtis> xomp, do you know the SSID of your wirelesss network and wether or not it is encrypted?
[15:23] <xomp> Jack_Sparrow, the wireless is a prism2 usb, the onboard NIC (cat5) is an Intel 82801CAM PRO/100 VM
[15:23] <xomp> kurtis, yes, I entered it's SSID in and it won't connect. I don't use encryption.
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xomp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb       check into manual config
[15:24] <neopsyche_> hi.. i need to connect to wireless using my linux pc.
[15:24] <neopsyche_> in other words.. i need to use my ubuntu box as AP for my laptop.
[15:24] <ere4si> !wireless | neopsyche_
[15:24] <ubotu> neopsyche_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:25] <neopsyche_> I have configured Atheros card.. but now need to configure it to be the AP for laptop.
[15:25] <neopsyche_> ere4si: i know that but need help with some more advanced info i have already found on the ubuntuforums/help
[15:25] <xomp> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, I don't see anything about manual config on there though, perhaps I'm overlooking?
[15:26] <recon69> neopsyche_ : you ever think of getting a wireless router , it's much easer and not that dear
[15:26] <neopsyche_> ere4si, i need help with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[15:26] <mananan2> can anyone help?
[15:26] <neopsyche_> ere4si,?
[15:26] <Sinnerman> hi, anyone know how to get monodevelop v1.0 to run on gutsy?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> xomp, see the two links right below line 2
[15:26] <neopsyche_> mananana2 what do you need help with?
[15:26] <ere4si> neopsyche_: reading
[15:26] <xomp> Jack_Sparrow, got it lol, thanks again :)
[15:27] <mananan2> having problems with startup disk after running ubuntu from live cd
[15:27] <neopsyche_> recon69, no resources for that .. please dont take up lines of text if you are not able to help me with this issue.
[15:27] <Skiessi> xomp do you have linux-wlan-ng installed?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, do you have multiple nics in that machine
[15:27] <neopsyche_> ere4si, thanks
[15:27] <xomp> Skiessi, I have no idea really lol, I just installed Gutsy last night.
[15:27] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, im not sure what you mean by nics.. rings a bell. but not sure what its about.
[15:28] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,?
[15:28] <CreativeEmbassy> can someone help me check my paths?
[15:28] <Skiessi> :o can you open a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng"
[15:28] <Skiessi> ?
[15:28] <chombee> Anyone tried watching a DVD in Ubuntu using an external DVD drive connected via USB 1? Is that likely to work? It's an idea for an old Thinkpad X22 laptop
[15:28] <CreativeEmbassy> i think they're really screwed up, which is messing up ubuntu completely
[15:28] <CreativeEmbassy> like I can't run install-info
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, Do you have more that one network interface in the box you want to make your access point, one for the internet and one for the ap
[15:28] <mananan2> i changed the startup disk in os x to the live cd now i cant control the ubuntu startup grup screen to change the startup disk back too os x
[15:28] <CreativeEmbassy> and xwindows doesn't start on boot, I have to run startx
[15:28] <xomp> Skiessi, early today I could have done that, but now neither of my internet connections (wireless and ethernet) are working :(
[15:28] <vallhalla81> chombee: worked fine for me
[15:29] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> how did you manage to mangle your $PATH ?
[15:29] <chombee> vallhalla81 -- and ut was USB 1 not USB 2?
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> well, I'm not sure
[15:29] <xomp> Skiessi, it works lol strange
[15:29] <vallhalla81> it was yes
[15:29] <rwycuff> xomp: when you run lsmod does it show up there
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> I modified my .bashrc file a while back
[15:29] <schnootop> anyone know of a good colour picker tool for ubuntu which can grab colours from external applications ?
[15:29] <waylandbill> chombee: usb 1 could be choppy playing a dvd. Data rate is close to limit
[15:29] <obione> can someone please help me ?   I have amsn version from signaptic repository, but has no sounds of incoming messages :(
[15:29] <mananan2> anyone?
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> to add stuff for running both ruby and flex
[15:29] <chombee> vallhalla81 well, then there's some chance it'll work for me. Cool.
[15:29] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,I have internet through switch.. which gives dhcp to the box i want to use.. the switch is connected to the Radio.. which is in turn connected to the WISP.. I have a PCI ATHEROS card in the box.. which i want to connect to using wifi on laptop .. so box must be AP. .. any ideas?
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> and it seemed to be gine
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> fine
[15:29] <xomp> actually, it's not working lol, thought it was but still no internet
[15:29] <obione> I already snoop the net 4 more info, but still nothing :(
[15:29] <chombee> waylandbill okay thanks
[15:29] <CreativeEmbassy> but it's not working now
[15:29] <xomp> rwycuff, lemme check
[15:30] <SupaFly> how do you get conky to display the cpu temp, i installed lm-sensors and everything, when i type 'sensors' it shows the cpu temp, but it doesnt with conky :S
[15:30] <Skiessi> !pastebin | xomp
[15:30] <ubotu> xomp: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:30] <stinger05> hello there, i need driver for my modem called: actiontec MD56ORD V92 MDC
[15:30] <CreativeEmbassy> i've been trying to get it working now
[15:30] <stinger05> anyh ideas ?
[15:30] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> you can always modify your .bashrc and try to remember what you added, assuming those are the only things you have done
[15:30] <kurtis> can anyone help me with an eclipse CVS problem
[15:30] <Skiessi> can you paste the result?
[15:30] <CreativeEmbassy> can I compare my path with anyone else? is there a way to do that?
[15:30] <neopsyche_> ere4si, any ideas?
[15:30] <xomp> rwycuff, the prism2_usb shows up as does the onboard nic in lsmod
[15:30] <mananan2> can anyone help me with os x ubuntu startup problem?
[15:30] <amenado> !who |CreativeEmbassy
[15:30] <adac> I get this error at pxe boot: PXE-T01: File not found ...any ideas what to do?
[15:30] <ubotu> CreativeEmbassy: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:31] <xomp> Skiessi, I can't pastebin since I don't have interwebs :(
[15:31] <vinoo> can anybody help me with my monitor?
[15:31] <ere4si> neopsyche_: first clue - http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/559351.html
[15:31] <SupaFly> how do you get conky to display the cpu temp, i installed lm-sensors and everything, when i type 'sensors' it shows the cpu temp, but it doesnt with conky :S
[15:31] <Skiessi> :/
[15:31] <waylandbill> chombee: I've seen it work okay on one system and choppy on another.
[15:31] <CreativeEmbassy> !tab
[15:31] <Skiessi> ok...
[15:31] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:31] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> paste your $PATH in pastebin
[15:31] <CreativeEmbassy> !pastebin
[15:31] <Skiessi> xomp, so it did install the necessary stuff?
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[15:31] <QuickGold> god bless the tab key
[15:31] <obione> mananan2    ->    in the shell  do     dpkg -reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[15:31] <rwycuff> xomp:what happens with ifocnfig
[15:31] <stinger05> hello there, i need driver for my modem called: actiontec MD56ORD V92 MDC
[15:31] <Skiessi> >_<
[15:31] <vinoo> widescreen is not working, there's two black bars
[15:32] <obione> mananan2  in the shell  do  -->        sudo dpkg -reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[15:32] <xomp> Skiessi, I thought it was communicating but it was hanging at "contacting site" sorry
[15:32] <chombee> waylandbill okay. I guess the other question is, will the video show up on the external monitor? On my newer thinkpad it does, but this X22 is much older
[15:32] <amenado> stinger05-> you may do better me think if you search via google
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, Im am not the best sorce on this, but the atheros is how you are gtiing internet into the pc correct?  and you are trying to use the saame atheros as your ap?
[15:32] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60297/
[15:32] <Skiessi> xomp, >_< ...yeah you didn't have internet access
[15:32] <Skiessi> so..
[15:32] <xomp> rwycuff, ifconfig shows eth0 and eth0:avah
[15:32] <Skiessi> wait a sec
[15:32] <stinger05> amenado: i couldnt find it in google :S
[15:33] <mananan2> eh?
[15:33] <ere4si> neopsyche_: doesn't seem like a common thing folks do...
[15:33] <xomp> rwycuff, eth0 doesn't show an ip attached, but eth0:avah has an APIPA addy attached to it, funny there is no loopback showing too.. *hmm*
[15:33] <obione> mananan2 sorry ....     here is the correct one --->        sudo   dpkg-reconfigure   xserver-xorg
[15:34] <rwycuff> xomp: is the eithernet pluged in  if so try dhclient eth0 and see if yuo can atleast get ip from it and get back online
[15:34] <amenado> stinger05-> certainly not us here..your chances is better searching google
[15:34] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> add  /usr/local/bin  to your PATH
[15:34] <stinger05> okay,, but how can i know what's it's name in ubuntu ?
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ere4si, I have seen people use direct connect pc to router or switch to get internet and a wireless card in the same pc  with bridge using firestarter for laptop to access the web etc
[15:34] <obione> can someone please help me ?   I have amsn version from signaptic repository, but has no sounds of incoming messages :(  and already snoop about it on the net, but still nothing
[15:34] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, no.. i am getting internet into the pc from a radio that is on the roof with an antenna that is connected to a wireless internet company .. which runs down and ethernet cable from the radio on the roof through the ceiling into the switch/router D-Link Ethernet broadband router (WIRED .. Not WIFI) from one of the four ports on the router the ethernet link goes into the pc via DHCP .. that is what gives me internet on this BOX.  On the bo
[15:34] <neopsyche_> x.. i have an ATHEROS chipset card which i want to use as the AP for my home networking for when I use my laptop around the house.. say.. in the lounge for example.. or if friends come over who have wireless capability ;-)
[15:35] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> rather clean-up your PATH to remove redundant path on it
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, that does not anser my question
[15:35] <xomp> rwycuff, ok, did that and it's just repeating DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 ineterval 6 etc.. No DHCPOFFERS received, No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[15:35] <mananan2> you dont know the problem how could i possibly take your advice?
[15:35] <Svenstaro> Is this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?highlight=%28live%29%7C%28cd%29 still valid for 7.10?
[15:35] <xomp> wonder how it got 255.255.255.255 as my subnet?! lol
[15:35] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, no.. i am not getting internet into my main PC using ATHEROS.
[15:35] <ere4si> Jack_Sparrow: the link I gave was for an ad_hoc one to one connection - best google would give me with what I gave it :)
[15:36] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,not sure if i understand the question.
[15:36] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,the internet is coming from a service provider.
[15:36] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,from a radio on the roof
[15:36] <amenado> neopsyche_-> a nice drawing is worth a thousand words..can you draw one and paste it?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, keep it on one line.. thanks...
[15:36] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,the atheros chipset is seperate on a radio within the pc.
[15:36] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: I'll clean it up, thanks.
[15:37] <neopsyche_> amenado, text will have to do for now :-)
[15:37] <vallhalla82> can anyone help me get dual screen working on a nivida card?
[15:37] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: you need to bridge the ethernet and wireless cards.
[15:37] <mananan2> how do i change the startup disk when running ubuntu from the live cd?
[15:37] <neopsyche_> amenado,I dont have time or energy to draw up a diagram for one question.
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, that is what I was asking.  yes...  Look into firestarter internet sharing
[15:37] <Svenstaro> Is this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?highlight=%28live%29%7C%28cd%29 still valid for 7.10?
[15:37] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, cool ;-)
[15:37] <ere4si> !netsplit
[15:37] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[15:38] <Seveas> ere4si, this is no netsplit
[15:38] <ere4si> oh
[15:38] <ere4si> should have scrolled up :)
[15:39] <Skiessi> xomp: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/wireless-tools http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/linux-wlan-ng I would try downloading these and somehow getting them to the another PC but yeah maybe rwycuff knows better
[15:39] <Odd-rationale> where did all these poeple come from?
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[15:39] <amenado> neopsyche_-> well then you must be really clear, as it its difficult to picture what your network layout is
[15:39] <Seveas> dud, stupid floodbots...
[15:39] <waylandbill> looks like a FloodBot fight. place your bets. :-D
[15:40] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: where else does the path get set?
[15:40] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: I only see the path in /etc/profile
[15:40] <xomp>  Skiessi , thanks, I'm seriously thinking of re-installing ubuntu all over again to get internet working then checking those packages out.
[15:40] <Mez> Seveas, It seems their attack timeouts might be a little too slpw ?
[15:40] <Seveas> Mez, dunno
[15:41] <xomp> I've been up since 8:00am working this with no resolution so the time it's taken here could have been spent just re-installing haha
[15:41] <Skiessi> wtf is happening here?
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Skiessi, not a problem.. a little ops work
[15:42] <Odd-rationale> Seveas: what are you doing? who are these people?
[15:42] <iNeo> !samba
[15:42] <Javid> ethnic cleansing!
[15:42] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, my guess is that they all have exploits open
[15:42] <bazhang> teh bad peepul
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Seveas, thanks
[15:43] <Odd-rationale> please don't kick me...
[15:43] <Pici> !traffic
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[15:44] <CreativeEmbassy> bad time to get help?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, relax.. almost back to (abby) normal
[15:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> again
[15:44] <Seveas> CreativeEmbassy, slightly
[15:44] <eiKei> hello all
[15:44] <seisen> spring cleaning?
[15:44] <CreativeEmbassy> haha
[15:44] <CreativeEmbassy> i'll keep googling then
[15:44] <CreativeEmbassy> :-)
[15:44] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[15:44] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[15:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:44] <mananan2> any have a clue how to change the startup disk on ubuntu live cd??
[15:44] <mananan2> anyone
[15:45] <Andycasss> Where can i see the amount of space used and free?
[15:45] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow: im at the point where firestarter is asking me to configure internet connection sharing.. its asking me to select the local area network device .  would this be the ethernet or the wifi?
[15:45] <Ashfire908> how do i update the list of servers in the Software sources list/how can i edit the list?
[15:45] <ere4si> Andycasss: in a terminal type    df -h
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, I cant help with that.. someone else can help ,  read up on it while you wait
[15:45] <xomp> ouch, K-lined!
[15:45] <jeffMASTERflex> Andycasss: or just use system monitor
[15:45] <ere4si> Ashfire908: going to upgrade?
[15:45] <waylandbill> Andycasss: Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage Analyzer is a gui way.
[15:46] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, i tried to enable ath0 as sharing device but firestarter says its not ready
[15:46] <neopsyche_> can anyone help with firestarter?
[15:46] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow,thanks
[15:46] <bohsain> in hardy, i get an error say that i may be out of diskspace, but i have enough space!!
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, If you are trying to add unsupported repos, may I ask which ones and for what purpose
[15:46] <amenado> neopsyche_-> am sure you can come up with the energy if you want this resolved... it help both you and us to troubleshoot with drawings
[15:46] <bazhang> bohsain: #ubuntu+1 please
[15:46] <Andycasss> thank you waylandbill & ere4si
[15:46] <Skiessi> Ashfire908, "sudo apt-get update" "sudo [nano or gedit] /etc/apt/sources.list" or something like that
[15:46] <Ashfire908> i'm running the pick the best server and i know that one it likes to pick is offline/not working
[15:47] <zeldino> hola a tutti
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, gksudo gedit /apt/sources.list
[15:47] <Seveas> !it | zeldino
[15:47] <Skiessi> that's good too
[15:47] <ubotu> zeldino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> /etc/apt
[15:47] <rwycuff> xomp: do you have say mac filtering or something setup like that that owul block your nic's mac or hardware
[15:48] <Ashfire908> i want to edit the Software Sources's Choose a Download Server list, not the sources list
[15:48] <xomp> rwycuff, actually yes, would my mac change though?
[15:48] <Skiessi> :o it's /etc/apt/sources.list still, I thinks
[15:48] <Skiessi> *think
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, ok.. sorry
[15:48] <Some_Person> How can I get more than one sound at a time?
[15:48] <rwycuff> xomp: no it wouldnt unless you spoofed it or it just happen to get taken out of the list of mac's
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[15:49] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:49] <jake2point0> can someone help me with getting my wireless card to start working
[15:49] <ere4si> Ashfire908: I don't think you will get a server list in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[15:49] <Negromancer> !randombannings
[15:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randombannings - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:49] <xomp> rwycuff, ah ok, I wasn't 100% sure if a MAC could change, at this point in time I'm ready to believe anything hahaha
[15:49] <amenado> jake2point0-> which chip does your wifi card have?
[15:49] <jeffMASTERflex> Ashfire908: in Synaptic, go to Repositories, and it allows you to choose the server from a list
[15:49] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: No, it's not that. Sound is working, but I can only have one sound at a time playing.
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person, correct, and you want to play a game with sound while listening to music etc ?
[15:50] <rwycuff> xomp:it doesnt seem logical that those settings would just change unless yuo knew you did it but heydont hurt to check these things
[15:50] <xomp> rwycuff, I'm in the process of doing a complete re-install to atleast get my ethernet working again :)
[15:50] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: exactly
[15:50] <jake2point0> amenado i dont know.  ill do some googling to see what chip is in my Trendnet TEW423PI B1.1R
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Please see the link
[15:50] <amenado> jake2point0-> is that also a usb dongle?
[15:50] <xomp> rwycuff, I was messing around with "roaming mode" earlier that completely hosed my system.
[15:51] <Ashfire908> what i want to do is not in /etc/apt/sources.list. I'm not trying to edit which server i want to use (at least not directly.) i want to edit the list of servers in the Software Sources program's "Choose a download server" list.
[15:51] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: my path is being loaded twice... I'm just setting that path in /etc/profile. Is there some other file that's also run that loads the path again from /etc/profile?
[15:51] <amenado> Ashfire908-> same soure it uses to select what to download.
[15:51] <rwycuff> xomp:oh thats over kill just to fix a nic but if thats what you need to do
[15:51] <rwycuff> your wireless should have shown up as eth1
[15:51] <waylandbill> Ashfire908: the select the best server likely pings using ICMP and the server's HTTP daemon may be down. I'd select one that is geographically close to your location.
[15:51] <busfahrer>     Option     "TwinView"
[15:51] <busfahrer>     Option     "MetaModes"  "1280x1024,1280x1024; 1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; 1024x768; 800x600,800x600; 800x600"
[15:51] <busfahrer>     Option     "TwinViewOrientation"      "RightOf"
[15:51] <busfahrer>     Option     "SecondMonitorHorizSync"   "UseEdidFreqs"
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, you need to rephrase your question as you are getting the right answer as we intrepet your question
[15:52] <xomp> rwycuff, I know, but I'm a masocists lol. It will learn me not to mess with stuff I don't know about hehe. Once it comes back up after install I'll then try the wireless again to see if we can get it working :S
[15:52] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> your .bash_profile perhaps?  look around your home directory for .xxxx  and see if they set PATH
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> CreativeEmbassy, /bashrc perhaps  ?  just a guess
[15:53] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: So I have to run every OSS program in an aoss wrapper?
[15:53] <rwycuff> xomp: understand ive done my share of reinstalls
[15:53] <jeffMASTERflex> Some_Person: alsa has an oss wrapper and usually does this on its own
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person, It should be as simple as selecting alsa in settings
[15:54] <waylandbill> If I understand correctly, in System, Admin, Software Sources, Download From, Other, Select Best Server is selecting a server, but the daemon on the server is down. and Ashfire908 wants to remove that server from the list of available.
[15:54] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: not every program supports alsa
[15:54] <ere4si> Jack_Sparrow: Ashfire908 wants to change the server apt gos to for d/loads
[15:54] <Ashfire908> waylandbill: exactally
[15:54] <xomp> rwycuff, when I was messing with the "roaming mode" of the network manager I got this awkward feeling. Similar to the feeling I got last night when I was playing Team Fortress 2 on a russian server and after the opposing team beat us there was some russian dude singing that "Beating me down" song by KoRn. It was just awkward and strange to hear that haha
[15:54] <jake2point0> amenado no its not.  one source said my chipset is ACX111 chipset but my ubuntu lists it as 03:09.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) doing lspci
[15:54] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado, jack_sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60300/
[15:55] <CreativeEmbassy> that's a grep for PATH in anything .*
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person, then you may want to /j #Alsa for specific help as those programs that do not support alsa or if you are working with wine etc.. may need additional considerations
[15:55] <waylandbill> Ashfire908: It should be a temporary problem. You should be able to just pick another that is close to you.
[15:55] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> so unset it where it gets sets twice
[15:55] <rwycuff> xomp: yuou will have that with korn songs..tf2 good game though
[15:56] <Ashfire908> waylandbill: it was happening yesterday too
[15:56] <amenado> jake2point0-> you can try  lshw -C network to give you a lil more info
[15:56] <neopsyche_> amendado, ok here is your picture.. you think it is going to solve the problem? > http://www.suzao.net/wifi_Challenge.png
[15:56] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: Could I somehow uninstall OSS?
[15:56] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: I'm trying to figure out where that is!
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person, then you may want to /j #Alsa for specific help as those programs that do not support alsa or if you are working with wine etc.. may need additional considerations
[15:56] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> keep looking around..
[15:56] <neopsyche_> anyone help! http://www.suzao.net/wifi_Challenge.png
[15:57] <jake2point0> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[15:57] <jake2point0>   *-network UNCLAIMED
[15:57] <jake2point0>        description: Ethernet controller
[15:57] <jake2point0>        product: 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless
[15:57] <jake2point0>        vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
[15:57] <jake2point0>        physical id: 9
[15:57] <FloodBot2> jake2point0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <jake2point0>        bus info: pci@0000:03:09.0
[15:57] <amenado> neopsyche_-> wires? how do they interconnect?
[15:58] <neopsyche_> amenado, cat5
[15:58] <MenZa> I have a TwinView setup, but I'm forced to scroll on one of my screens if I want to see the full area. What gives?
[15:58] <neopsyche_> amenado,what difference does that make?
[15:58] <jake2point0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60301/
[15:58] <neopsyche_> amenado, so .. you can solve the problem now that you see a picture and know what wire it uses?
[15:58] <amenado> neopsyche_-> again once more, it makes a difference if you provide good info on how things are interconnected..
[15:59] <waylandbill> Ashfire908: I'm grepping my filesystem for the server list. No hits. It is possible that it is compiled in or stored on a remote location.
[15:59] <amenado> neopsyche_-> do you want help or like to argue?
[15:59] <neopsyche_> amenado, it only makes a diffrence to me if someone can actually solve the problem.. otherwise its just a waste of time.
[15:59] <neopsyche_> I want help.
[15:59] <amenado> neopsyche_-> well with that kind of attitude..
[15:59] <neopsyche_> amenado, i only argue when I think something might be a waste of time.
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> neopsyche_, when a user needs help with an uncommon problem it takes longer to find the right person with the answer
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[16:00] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:00] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: have you created a bridge between the ethernet and wireless card?
[16:00] <recon69> neopsyche_ : you need to do the AP step by step, first get internet working on wired computer from the radio connection, then setup you local wireless network unencrypted, then setup the bridge on you main computer using ipchains
[16:00] <neopsyche_> waylandbill, how do i do that?
[16:01] <neopsyche_> recon69, can you talk me through it.
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> waylandbill, I already suggested firestarter as an option
[16:01] <recon69> neopsyche_ : well, first do you have internet on you main PC?
[16:01] <omar> What's the command for checking the version of the distribution?
[16:02] <waylandbill> Jack_Sparrow: will that create br0 or will that just create a NAT connection? I think an actual bridge is needed.
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lsb_release -a
[16:02] <Seveas> omar, lsb_release -a
[16:02] <jake2point0> amenado did you goto my pastebin
[16:02] <Rym> Hmm, Just now i enabled the restricted nvidia drivers (clean ubuntu install)
[16:02] <Rym> i restarted, only i didnt have any resolution options, I was stuck to 640x480
[16:02] <neopsyche_> recon69: yes.. that is how i am talking to you.. have you looked at the png?
[16:03] <neopsyche_> http://www.suzao.net/wifi_Challenge.png
[16:03] <Rym> as it was hard to work in that situations, i disabled the drivers again so i could look for a solution (in normal res)
[16:03] <Rym> only now i my max resolution is 800x600
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Rym, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[16:03] <Rym> and if i force-change it i get a checkered pattern
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[16:03] <rwycuff> does any on have any experience with qmail ldap and active directory
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Rym, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[16:04] <amenado> jake2point0-> can you repaste the link to the pastebin you created?
[16:04] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: maybe my problem has nothing to do with the path? like why would install-info not run, but apt-get tells me I already have dpkg installed?
[16:04] <Rym> oki, let me try it out
[16:04] <jake2point0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60301/
[16:04] <CreativeEmbassy> is there a way to make apt-get REinstall something?
[16:04] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> what was your problem again? you were the one that suggested it maybe your PATH...
[16:05] <Pici> CreativeEmbassy: apt-get install --reinstall package
[16:05] <mananan2> anybody know how i can change the startup disk on my mac to avoid the ubuntu live cd?
[16:05] <CreativeEmbassy> there's a bunch of stuff that seemingly disappeared
[16:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, cant u eject the cd?
[16:05] <CreativeEmbassy> tons of simple programs that run all the time
[16:05] <nubuntu> is nubuntu still supported?
[16:05] <recon69> neopsyche_ :  well, I setup APHOST a couple of years ago to do this. took quite a while to get working
[16:05] <Seveas> CreativeEmbassy, apt-get install --reinstall packagename_here
[16:05] <CreativeEmbassy> and xwindows doesn't automatically start
[16:05] <mananan2> yes
[16:05] <Seveas> CreativeEmbassy, in that case you might need an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, so eject the cd and boot osx
[16:05] <CreativeEmbassy> eek!
[16:06] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, cant u?
[16:06] <mananan2> but then it keeps saying "grub hard disk error" without the disk
[16:06] <CreativeEmbassy> Seveas: I'll try that then...
[16:06] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, eject and reboot?
[16:06] <bazhang> mananan2: you want to get into osX is that right?
[16:06] <mananan2> i cant
[16:06] <mananan2> ya
[16:06] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, u cant reboot?
[16:06] <CreativeEmbassy> grr
[16:06] <mananan2> but it wont recognise the disk
[16:07] <neopsyche_> recon69, what is your suggestion?
[16:07] <CreativeEmbassy> i can't run apt-get install anything because it can't find install-info
[16:07] <CreativeEmbassy> lol
[16:07] <bazhang> mananan2: eject the disk; reboot the computer
[16:07] <mananan2> just keeps looking for the ubuntu cd
[16:07] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> and may I suggest, keeping a safe copy of the PATH and configs you use before making major changes? that way you get a backup just incase you need to go back?
[16:07] <neopsyche_> Jack_Sparrow, what do i now need?
[16:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, take out the cd and reboot and u still have grub?
[16:07] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: you can google for several network bridge howtos. Basically your ethernet card will have a br0 device that will send data to your wireless card as if they were on the same network.
[16:07] <neopsyche_> amenado, all wires are running through the Router.
[16:07] <CreativeEmbassy> amenado: yeah, I know to keep backups now :-/
[16:07] <mananan2> yes
[16:08] <RoAkSoAx> wujciol
[16:08] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, so u installed ubuntu accidently
[16:08] <bazhang> mananan2: may need to reinstall OS X; for help on that please head to ##apple
[16:08] <mananan2> flicker and then grub hard disk error?
[16:08] <neopsyche_> waylandbill, cool.. can you talk me through it?
[16:08] <amenado> neopsyche_-> how many routers do you have on your network? which one is acting as the main gateway to the ISP?  is same router acting also as AP?
[16:08] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> mananan2, ya, call apple
[16:09] <neopsyche_> recon69, any suggestions?
[16:09] <neopsyche_> amenado, 1
[16:09] <recon69> neopsyche_ : well, first check that you wireless card is working on main pc. use ipconfig to see what interfaces you have setup
[16:09] <knightz> is nubuntu still supported?
[16:09] <neopsyche_> amenado, have you looked at the png?
[16:09] <Seveas> knightz, it never was
[16:09] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: that is not a simple thing to do. It can take a while get set up and assumes you have good networking knowledge.
[16:09] <knightz> ok
[16:09] <knightz> why?
[16:09] <Seveas> because it never was :)
[16:10] <Pici> knightz: Because its not an offical Ubuntu release.
[16:10] <amenado> neopsyche_-> yes and it is unclear, i asked you about interconnectivity, where are the wires? whats what? which router is gateway?
[16:10] <mananan2> useless
[16:10] <omar> Guys, I've just upgraded to Hardy Heron Alpha 5, and everything seems to going normally, except that FireFox 3 (beta 4) is sluggishly slow at scrolling pages, is there a way to make it run faster or is this one of the problems I must live with until the official release??
[16:10] <neopsyche_> waylandbill, can you help me with a simpler solution.. other than.. install windows.. plugin usb wifi device .. install software .. select ap optoin?
[16:10] <Pici> !hardy | omar
[16:10] <ubotu> omar: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:10] <CreativeEmbassy> seveas: what if I don't even have a /usr/local/sbin or a /usr/sbin ?
[16:10] <Seveas> CreativeEmbassy, reinstall.
[16:10] <Polishpaul> i added an alias to my .bashrc file alias vi='vim' however when i say which vi = /usr/bin/vi (even after reloading bash) - this works on another distro.. help?
[16:10] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: which is why I said when you first asked that you may find that a wireless router is an inexpensive alternative.
[16:10] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> yep, if you loose those, you are up the creek
[16:10] <knightz>  @seveas hm.... so how could i cont. it's development?
[16:10] <CreativeEmbassy> holy cow
[16:10] <CreativeEmbassy> ohhh kay
[16:10] <CreativeEmbassy> uhm
[16:10] <Seveas> Polishpaul, try 'type vi'
[16:10] <recon69> neopsyche_ : well i take it you have a pc that has a wired connection to your isp, and you want the pc to share the connection wireless to your lap top
[16:10] <Polishpaul> basically i wanna say vi ... and get vim (syntax colors)
[16:10] <CreativeEmbassy> backing up now...
[16:11] <neopsyche_> amendado, theres only one router
[16:11] <neopsyche_> get it?
[16:11] <Seveas> knightz, no idea, it's not an ubuntu project :)
[16:11] <Polishpaul> Seveas: its says its aliased to vim...
[16:11] <waylandbill> recon69: that's what he wants.
[16:11] <Seveas> Polishpaul, apt-get install vim-full
[16:11] <knightz> ok...
[16:11] <amenado> neopsyche_-> so, what is it that is causing you headaches? and mine too? you can not use your router?
[16:11] <jake2point0> amenado did you see my link
[16:11] <Gladiator> Hi there, I was having some trouble booting up. The solution to my problem was to remove Quest and Splash from the boot command, and to add "noapic acpi=off". As this fixed my problem, I was told the way to make it permenant was to edit /boot/grub/menu.list and make the chanegs permenant. However, it's not letting me save the file.
[16:11] <Polishpaul> Seveas: ah... ofcourse ty
[16:11] <CreativeEmbassy> Seveas, amenado: does the ubuntu install cd by chance have "repair" functionality?
[16:12] <amenado> jake2point0-> are you sending that to me via pm? you cant, my system will not accept..paste the link here
[16:12] <CreativeEmbassy> or should I back up my home folder and start new?
[16:12] <bieb> Gladiator are you editing as "sudo"?
[16:12] <dgjones> Gladiator, have you used sudo?
[16:12] <neopsyche_> amendado, i simply need to know what to install and what configurations to make to allow the wireless card in my pc to allow access for my laptop to be on the wired network using the connection supplied from the wirelss card on the pc it is installed in.
[16:12] <Gladiator> ...
[16:12] <Gladiator> Erm. No. How do I do that
[16:12] <amenado> CreativeEmbassy-> i suggest you backup your /home  and since i dont know what else you had..maybe a re-install would not be so bad..
[16:12] <bieb> Gladiator: how are you trying to edit?
[16:12] <CreativeEmbassy> we'
[16:12] <NoXeD> Hi Ppl
[16:12] <CreativeEmbassy> we'll see, I guess
[16:12] <NorthByNorthWest> Quick question... if I want to test a live CD on a laptop prior to purchase, and its a core 2 duo, do I need the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[16:13] <CreativeEmbassy> thanks for your help, everyone
[16:13] <neopsyche_> amenado, see above
[16:13] <Gladiator> I double clicked on it, found the lines I had to edit before, and edited them appropriately
[16:13] <recon69> neopsyche_ : so you need 3 interfaces. eth0 for your ips connection, ra0 for you wireless network and br0 as a bridge between the two. so run ipconfig and post it so we can have a look at what is working now.
[16:13] <RoAkSoAx> Gladiator: sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:13] <Seveas> NorthByNorthWest, you could try both :)
[16:13] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: I'm not sure if it is clear. Do you want to share the internet connection as well, or just access files and such on the desktop?
[16:13] <Gladiator> k
[16:13] <dgjones> Gladiator, in a terminal type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list"
[16:13] <neopsyche_> waylandbill, share internet
[16:13] <dundel> are there any open source windows terminal server solutions?
[16:13] <amenado> neopsyche_-> do not get frustrated. just answer my querries... is your router/gateway acting as AP also?
[16:13] <ere4si> NorthByNorthWest: I'd use the 32bit
[16:13] <bieb> Gladiator: do you know any command line editors?
[16:14] <RoAkSoAx> Gladiator: do what dgjones told ya, i forgot to put the command xD
[16:14] <bartek> Hello! I am looking for some application like PPJoyMouse for ubuntu. Any ideas? :)
[16:14] <bieb> NorthByNorthwest, the 32bit
[16:14] <Jockeo> I'm connected to a wireless network. How can I see the names of other connected nodes?
[16:14] <amenado> neopsyche_-> as you note, we are at a loss on what you are trying to accomplish...your drawing is inadequate to give us good info to advise you...
[16:14] <dgjones> Gladiator, it will ask for your user password as well
[16:14] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: okay. it's just like recon69 and I said. you need br0. post your ifconfig as recon69 recommended.
[16:14] <neopsyche_> amenado, ap for what? as i understand it .. ap is a term used for wifi.. the router is wired.. theres no wifi on router. the router gets its access from a seperate network.. think CABLE
[16:15] <ere4si> neopsyche_: ap = access point
[16:15] <amenado> neopsyche_-> if you want wireless.. then you need an AP.  now where is in the drawing do you have an AP ?
[16:15] <NorthByNorthWest> Thanks everyone! Do you know if the intel graphical chipset is easy to use with dual monitors... running on LCD projectors and so on?
[16:15] <neopsyche_> I am so frustrated.. as i dont see why it is so difficult to understand
[16:15] <NorthByNorthWest> Ive found one perfect laptop but Id rather have nvidia, thats the only catch!
[16:15] <amenado> neopsyche_-> in order for any wireless client to work, it has to access and AccessPoint, do you have an AP ?
[16:15] <Seveas> neopsyche_, your drawing is rubbish, your explanation is bad and your attitude is not helping. I'm not surprised you have trouble getting help...
[16:15] <neopsyche_> heres all you need to know.. MY PC has internet .. i have a wireless card in my pc.. i want to be able to get internet on my laptop.. which also has wireless ;-)
[16:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> NorthByNorthWest, what laptop?
[16:16] <Gladiator> It's giving me command not found
[16:16] <bieb> Northbynorthwest: what laptop?
[16:16] <recon69> neopsyche_: the AP is a bit of software that makes your computer act as a internet server. gives IP address and such.
[16:16] <Gladiator> oh, hang on, didn't see dgjones's line
[16:16] <ere4si> amenado: that's an ad_hoc connection he needs
[16:16] <NorthByNorthWest> Its an Fujitsu Siemens Amilo PV3525... ive googled it but not come to any real conclusions...
[16:16] <neopsyche_> amenado, it frustrates me that you are asking me if i have an AP as part of my original questions were.. how do i set up an AP so i can connect my laptop to my pc
[16:16] <recon69> neopsyche_: most people just buy a router as it's so much easer
[16:16] <NorthByNorthWest> AIGLX seems to be the deal with intel chipsets anyway...
[16:17] <bartek> I am looking for some application like PPJoyMouse for ubuntu. Any ideas? :)
[16:17] <bieb> Northbynorthwest: check the Ubuntu hardware forums also
[16:17] <dgjones> Gladiator, in a terminal type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list" it will also ask for your user password to check that you have admin rights on the machine
[16:17] <Seveas> NorthByNorthWest, aiglx is only needed for closed-source ati
[16:17] <bazhang> neopsyche_: get a router, they cost about $30
[16:17] <amenado> ere4si-> its more complicated for a newbie to setup an adhoc connectivity...has to take care of several things..
[16:17] <Gladiator> Got it, thanks
[16:17] <ere4si> amenado: I gave him a link ages ago
[16:17] <amenado> neopsyche_-> as people has been suggesting.. buy an AccessPoint  its not that expensive..
[16:18] <neopsyche_> Everyone please stop telling me to buy a router. I am quite aware of that and would not be having this disucussion if i wanted to buy a router.
[16:18] <NorthByNorthWest> bieb: yeah, those forums have a great compability chart, but that particular one isnt listed!
[16:18] <amenado> ere4si-> the thing is its quite difficult for a user to setup an adhoc, they really need to understand networking..
[16:18] <bazhang> neopsyche_: also some ISP's do not allow that
[16:18] <Sinnerman> how can i get monodevelop v1.0 to run on gutsy? or better still, how would i go about making a package out of the sources?
[16:18] <NorthByNorthWest> anyway... i think Ill try the live cd on the candidates, and go for an with nvidia instead... seems safer!
[16:18] <ere4si> amenado: I agree
[16:18] <Christoz> Can anyone tell me how to change the privileges of folder in terminal?
[16:18] <NorthByNorthWest> Thanks for the help everyone!
[16:19] <bieb> northbynorthwest: is there a similar model listed? I bought an HP dv9520 laptop and the dv6000 and dv9000 instructions worked for me
[16:19] <neopsyche_> recon69: YES AP .. THATS WHAT I NEED TO SET UP. (AND YES I KNOW I AM USING CAPS)
[16:19] <recon69> neopsyche_: but to set it you, you need to set up your wireless card with some access point software. the first step to getting help is to run ipconfig on the command line and post the results into a paste box !!!!
[16:19] <Christoz> I mean the chmod function
[16:19]  * Mihira away: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [desde: 13:19, page: on]
[16:19] <Polishpaul> ok, so i installed vim and vim-full ... still no syntax coloring?
[16:19] <Christoz> Please is emergency!!!
[16:19] <Christoz> Can anyone tell me how to change the privileges of folder in terminal?
[16:19] <Christoz> Please is emergency!!!
[16:19] <Seveas> Christoz, chill a bit...
[16:20] <smartboyathome> Ok, I need help with my mic. I am trying to run a male to male cable direct from my paino to my computer running ubuntu so I can record a song I made, but I 1) Get tons of background noise, and 2) I can't figure out what settings need to be used in the volume control to make it work (I have capture and digital)
[16:20] <Seveas> Christoz, man chmod
[16:20] <bazhang> Christoz: bad day for that
[16:20] <Polishpaul> Christoz: chmod
[16:20] <amenado> neopsyche_-> okay, i believe ere4si have suggested a link for you to look at adhoc connection, try that?  its a bit difficult to establish, your wifi driver has to support adhoc, and you have to do more work in terms of assigning ip address and route
[16:20] <rwycuff> xomp: any luck
[16:20] <bazhang> neopsyche_: caps
[16:20] <waylandbill> Christoz: chmod is the command you want.
[16:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Christoz, on a linux exam?
[16:20] <edbash> anybody have trouble with dns in ubuntu 8.04?
[16:20] <neopsyche_> why would i want to set up and ad-hoc connection when my request is for someone to help me set up an AP which i already have instructions for?
[16:20] <Christoz> for example ... chmod rw-rw-rw foldername?
[16:21] <ere4si> Christoz: sudo chmod -Rv user:group /path/to/folder - where user is the login name and group is usually the same
[16:21] <Pici> edbash: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:21] <edbash> Pici, thanks
[16:21] <ere4si> Christoz: oops \
[16:21] <amenado> neopsyche_-> you are being argumentative, we told you to use an AP, since you prefer not to, the next best thing is adhoc, but more work..
[16:21] <neopsyche_> Why does this have to be so complicated.. and so easy on windows?
[16:21] <Christoz> ere4si hehe
[16:22] <amenado> neopsyche_-> then go back to windows, if you believe it is that easy
[16:22] <neopsyche_> amenado, you did not tell me HOW to use the AP
[16:22] <waylandbill> neopsyche_: because most of the implementation is hidden from you in windows.
[16:22] <neopsyche_> windows = $ which is why I am here..
[16:22] <Seveas> !attitude | neopsyche_
[16:22] <ubotu> neopsyche_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:22] <recon69> anyway , anyone able to help me, just want a wpa tpik wireless link using a edimax g turbo card, info here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60293/
[16:22] <NET||abuse> hmm, i added some filters for newsgroups i'm in under gmail, but i connect to gmail with evolution over imap, how can i get evolution to pick up the new folders for my newsgroup labels?
[16:22] <amenado> neopsyche_-> how many times do i have to tell you buy an AP?  once you buy one, we can help you  more
[16:22] <neopsyche_> !attitude | seveas
[16:22] <ubotu> seveas: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:23] <Christoz> ere4si actually i want to paste files in my ftp folder of "gFTP" in order a friend of mine  to download music from there
[16:23] <smartboyathome> Can anyone help me with my mic problem?
[16:23] <Seveas> wb jake2point0
[16:23] <Christoz> ere4si but i can't change the privileges ...don't know how
[16:24] <amenado> jake2point0-> if you have been sending that to me in pm, my system dont accept pm..paste the link here..
[16:25] <Christoz> ere4si if i could "use" the chmod man iwouldn't ask in this room ok?
[16:25] <slaytanic> Is there an easy way to migrate from an amd64 Ubuntu to x86?
[16:25] <ere4si> Christoz: sudo cp -v /path/to/fileTo/Copy /path/to/whereithastogo/filename
[16:25] <recon69> Christoz: well in gnome you can right click->propeties->perssimisons and change them that way. but dont think it's your problem.
[16:26] <waylandbill> Christoz: if you want to know the insides of chmod... the rw and x are bits who's value are 4,2 and 1 with a byte for user, group and world. Mask the bits you don't need. See http://linuxbasics.org/course/book/sect_03_04
[16:26] <Christoz> recon89 negative this is not posiible
[16:26] <xomp> rwycuff, you still around?
[16:26] <jake2point0> it kept banning me for bots ...why..
[16:26] <jake2point0> is that the tech difficultys goin on
[16:27] <DRebellion> jake2point0, what? freenode wouldn't yet you connect?
[16:27] <jake2point0> i tell ya what,  nothing is easy nowadays
[16:27] <recon69> Christoz: if you just want to move the files and dont have permission , you should go to the command line and use sudo cp
[16:27] <jake2point0> ya it kept banning me not letting me in.. i didnt do anything
[16:27] <amenado> Christoz do you have a hard time using  man pages?  man man  helps a lil bit in understanding manpages,  then man chmod  for the specific command
[16:27] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Christoz, chmod 711 the folder and chmod 644 the file
[16:27] <xomp> ahhh $#*@^!@!!!!
[16:27] <jake2point0> but hey im back in!
[16:28] <Seveas> jake2point0, you were collateral damage, when I saw that I alerted staff and they undid it :)
[16:28] <xomp> this is really starting to upset me..
[16:28] <Christoz> waylnandbill iknow what r  | w | x means just give me the syntax....
[16:28] <rwycuff> xomp:yes im here but currently pry getting myself kicked from fedoras channel
[16:28] <Christoz> [Hardy]TuXuXG thanks mate
[16:28] <amenado> gessh people are so demanding, just give me, give me..
[16:28] <bliffle> Drat! Cursor jumping, computer slow: should I try Heron?
[16:28] <jake2point0> thank you then
[16:29] <AndyCR> Does anyone know how I can see what packages I have installed from a given repository?
[16:29] <bazhang> amenado: must be the moon ;]
[16:29] <DRebellion> bliffle, no
[16:29] <xomp> rwycuff, lol ok. I just finished reinstalling gutsy and still can't connect to the internet. This is so strange. I tested the cable on another laptop running windows and it works fine.
[16:29] <jake2point0> ok back to my wireless info ... ill repaste the link
[16:29] <amenado> lol@ bazhang
[16:29] <AndyCR> IE if I wanted to remove all packages installed from a repository so I could remove the repository?
[16:29] <jake2point0> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60301/
[16:30] <amenado> xomp-> you are using ethernet cables right not wireless?
[16:30] <rwycuff> xomp:ok does ifconfig show anything more this time
[16:30] <xomp> amenado, correct, cable only
[16:30] <xomp> rwycuff, lemme check
[16:31] <xomp> rwycuff, ok, now with ifconfig it showes eth0, eth0:avah and lo
[16:31] <sansaro> hello
[16:31] <amenado> jake2point0-> that meant your driver for that wifi chip is not loaded or not running correctly..dont know if using ndiswrapper and the windows driver would help you on that..
[16:31] <CShadowRun> does anyone have an up to date tutorial on how to get an ATI (X1600 Radeon) to work properly (IE: Compiz)
[16:31] <sansaro> plz i want ask how much Giga ubuntu need to install ?
[16:31] <DRebellion> sansaro, RAM? 256 MB
[16:31] <bazhang> CShadowRun: which ones have you tried?
[16:31] <Exteris> sansaro, 2 i think in disk
[16:31] <CShadowRun> It's changing all the time and all the tutorials i find are diffrent lol, i want one that works
[16:31] <sansaro> my ram 2G
[16:31] <CShadowRun> well when i last tried ubuntu i tried around 15 of them and had no luck
[16:31] <waylandbill> Christoz: if you knew what they meant, you have the hard part. You can get the syntax from a man page or google.
[16:32] <amenado> xomp-> okay, paste into pastebin your   ifconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/resolv.conf  and  sudo iptables -vL  to help us troubleshoot it with you
[16:32] <CShadowRun> so this time i'm asking in advance.
[16:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> AndyCR, on synaptic check origin to see repos/pkgs , if u want to remove one repo just remove it the package can be kept installed as ur will
[16:32] <DRebellion> sansaro, 2G is more than enough RAM
[16:32] <sansaro> but im asking
[16:32] <sansaro> how many giga i need to install ubuntu
[16:32] <stevr1it> problem with evince and acrobat reader . when i try to print a file imagine in pdf evince says MVerror acrobat reader that the printer is not conencted. the printer a xerox phaser 6180 in connected to the pc with lan cable port 9100. could you help me?
[16:32] <xomp> amenado, ok, I'll have to type the output out by hand since I have no internet hehe
[16:32] <murlidhar> how to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable to a desired directory?
[16:32] <DRebellion> sansaro, on hard drive?
[16:32] <amenado> sansaro-> harddisk  about 2.5 gig minimum
[16:32] <sansaro> yeah
[16:32] <recon69> xomp: cut and past the results to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , then paste the resulting link back here
[16:32] <bazhang> CShadowRun: if you want the real pros you best head t0 #compiz-fusion ;]
[16:32] <Christoz> waylandbill ok thanks anyway
[16:33] <sansaro> i have 2 G free is that enough to install ubuntu with compiz + awn ?
[16:33] <murlidhar> how to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable to a desired directory?
[16:33] <nikrud> CShadowRun: system->admin->restricted manager, enable ati driver. reboot. run fglrxinfo , make sure it's using ati 8.37.6 driver. Install xserver-xgl , compizconfig-settings-manager, log out and back in. Go to system->prefs->appearance effects tab
[16:33] <CShadowRun> um, how would they help me with a driver problem? :P
[16:33] <amenado> murlidhar-> you set it like any environment variable and export it...  export XXX=/path/towherever/    note no spaces
[16:33] <murlidhar> thanks amenado i will make a try
[16:34] <recon69> murlidhar: "export PKG_CONFIG_PATH  = path "  , you migh want to echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH  first to see it anything already in there
[16:34] <amenado> sansaro-> not enuff i dont think
[16:34] <CShadowRun> cool, thanks nikrud
[16:34] <nikrud> CShadowRun: the fglrxinfo check is important, if it's not the ati driver you won't get compiz
[16:34] <amenado> recon69-> not good to put spaces...in between =
[16:34] <sansaro> :( np thank you
[16:34] <rwycuff> xomp: exaclty what type of laptop is this
[16:35] <CShadowRun> yup looks good
[16:35] <xomp> rwycuff, it's a compaq evo n610c :)
[16:35] <CShadowRun> ATI Technologies, Radeon X1600 series, 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[16:36] <nikrud> yup, looks good
[16:36] <jake2point0> amendo ive tried the ndiswrapper windows wireless drivers package and adding the driver inf file doesnt do anything
[16:36] <recon69> anyone know how to fix "ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported" in wifi encryption ?
[16:36] <CShadowRun> and the other thing is how do i get my second display working?
[16:36] <CShadowRun> my card is dual head :P
[16:36] <jake2point0> amendo i just cant figure out why my ubuntu can list the device but not use it
[16:36] <murlidhar> amenado, export openssl=/home/murlidhar/transmission-1.06/
[16:36] <amenado> jake2point0-> dont know if that Marvel chips have a native linux drivers..dont seem like it, youhave to google and look for one..
[16:37] <murlidhar> amenado, still doesn't find it.
[16:37] <rwycuff> xomp: what is the physical wireless nic thats in there
[16:37] <xomp> brb guys smoke time lol
[16:37] <bazhang> recon69: what card and what are you trying to do?
[16:37] <murlidhar> amenado, and i have openssl package installed.
[16:37] <amenado> murlidhar->  is it looking for $openssl  or $OPENSSL  ?
[16:37] <amenado> murlidhar case matters
[16:37] <murlidhar> amenado, openssl
[16:37] <recon69> bazhang: edimax 11g turbo mode wireless lan pci adaptor
[16:38] <murlidhar> amenado, sorry OPENSSL
[16:38] <amenado> murlidhar-> then the way you set it is wrong , use caps
[16:38] <murlidhar> amenado, checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: Package requirements (openssl >= 0.9.4) were not met:
[16:38] <murlidhar> No package 'openssl' found
[16:38] <bazhang> recon69: what are you trying to do when you get that message
[16:38] <waylandbill> Christoz: when you say you know what the rwx are, I'm assuming you know how they translate to the numbers like say 644 right?
[16:38] <amenado> murlidhar-> is openssl installed? thats different from just setting the $OPENSSL variable
[16:39] <nikrud> CShadowRun: don't have a dual monitor, never ried
[16:39] <Nasra> I am a newbie....how do I into irc?
[16:39] <Nasra> thanks
[16:39] <CShadowRun> aww
[16:39] <recon69> bazhang: see  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60293/  for full info. I'm tring to connect to my router, wpa tpik encryption
[16:39] <amenado> Nasra you are on irc now.. google for tutorials on how to use irc please
[16:39] <murlidhar> amenado, openssl is already the newest version.
[16:39] <Christoz> waylandbill no r=read x =xecutable w =write
[16:39] <nikrud> CShadowRun: googling   ubuntu ati dual monitor pulls up some stuff
[16:40] <Nasra> amenado using windows
[16:40] <Christoz> waylandbill 644 it's a stadrd seup
[16:40] <high-bass> Hey guys im struggling with getting my sound card working properly... i installed the Newest alsa drivers... and my sound doesnt work at all!!... i dont understand why... dmesg gives the following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60302/
[16:40] <murlidhar> amenado, that's what i get when i apt-get install openssl
[16:40] <Nasra> in ubuntu
[16:40] <bazhang> recon69: does that card support it? is it ralink chipset or realtek?
[16:40] <Christoz> waylandbill 644 it's a stadrd setup as i can remember
[16:40] <rwycuff> xomp:is it a usb wireless or is it internal to the laptop
[16:40] <CShadowRun> ok
[16:40] <waylandbill> Christoz: r = 4, x =2, w =1. The value of their bits. 6 means 4+2 or r & w. so 644 is rw-r--r--
[16:41] <Christoz> waylandbill sorry guys bad from man pages i can't understand (i'm from greece)
[16:41] <recon69> bazhang: it should, but i will have to check what chipset it using.
[16:41] <Christoz> waylandbill i want rwx-rw-r
[16:42] <amenado> murlidhar-> if its installed,  then you need to set the environment variable, i dont know which variable is required to be set..
[16:42] <amenado> murlidhar you can tell if it complains it can not find the path to whatever script or executable
[16:42] <amenado> Nasra it does not matter, you can still use google to search for tutorials on how to use irc
[16:42] <Exteris> Christoz, 764
[16:42] <waylandbill> Christoz: r=4,w=2,x=1  ... so  rwxrw-r-- is 764 ...
[16:42] <murlidhar> amenado, k
[16:43] <Christoz> waylandbill 764 will be also for the files inside the folder?
[16:43] <Exteris> Christoz, chmod -R 764 folder
[16:44] <hyw> waylandbill: still there
[16:44] <waylandbill> Christoz: when you want to calculate the numbers just think of each rwx as governed by each number for a set of 3. You'll be able to get it with no trouble.
[16:45] <waylandbill> hyw: yes. what's up?
[16:45] <Christoz> waylandbill thank you very much and all of you guys
[16:45] <waylandbill> Christoz: the tutorial link I gave explains it way better than I could ever.
[16:45] <jimbojw> is there a built-in GUI app for managing init services like Apache, MySQL, memcached, etc (gutsy)
[16:46] <amenado> Christoz-> may I suggest buying a book on linux? specially one with ubuntu name on the book?
[16:46] <nikrud> jimbojw: no, but you can install bum , or sysv-init-rc (first is gui, second is sorta gui from command line)
[16:47] <hyw> waylandbill: how can I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst if I am using LiveCD
[16:47] <fbc> Does anyone remember the command that gets you to the "registry" tool?? it something like gnome-config but that's not it.
[16:47] <nikrud> hyw: you mean the one on the hard disk?
[16:47] <waylandbill> Christoz: amenado has a good point. A book to look at is a great idea.
[16:47] <Christoz> ok i think i should...one more question ...cp is only for files?
[16:47] <nikrud> fbc: gconf-editor
[16:47] <jimbojw> nikrud: apt-get installing bum as we speak - thanks
[16:47] <hyw> nikrud: actually I tried to boot ubuntu but it says error 22 no such partition
[16:48] <murlidhar> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60306/
[16:48] <ere4si> fbc: gconf-editor ?
[16:48] <waylandbill> hyw: mount the partition to /mnt and then use a text editor to edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:48] <Christoz> I'm downloading the rute.pdf
[16:48] <fbc> nikrud, ere4si , you guys are the sh*t!
[16:48] <fbc> nikrud,  ere4si ,, awesome thanks
[16:48] <nikrud> hyw:   sudo mount /dev/<rootpartition> /mnt , then it'll be at /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:48] <recon69> Christoz: yes cp copies files, sudo make you the super user so you can access any files. you should be very carfull anythime you use sudo
[16:48] <waylandbill> Christoz: cp works on files and also file-like objects.
[16:49] <ere4si> fbc: thnx - I think :)
[16:49] <amenado> murlidhar-> the error it is telling you, is not clear enuff?  do you really have openssl 0.9.4 installed? how did you verify this?
[16:49]  * nikrud takes a quick sniff
[16:49] <Christoz> waylandbill i see...how about copying entire folders?
[16:49] <ere4si> hehe
[16:49] <DRebellion> Christoz, cp -rv folder/ destinationfolder/
[16:49] <Christoz> recon69 you mean sudo su
[16:49] <waylandbill> Christoz: if you use -R to tell cp to recursively do it yes.
[16:49] <hyw> nikrud: hm says already mounted on /mnt
[16:50] <murlidhar> amenado, murlidhar@murlidhar-desktop:~$ openssl version
[16:50] <murlidhar> OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
[16:50] <DRebellion> Christoz, no, don't use sudo su. prefix the command with sudo:    sudo cp file1 file2
[16:50] <nikrud> hyw: then you should see it at that path I gave
[16:50] <hyw> nikrud: is there a way to check it
[16:51] <jake2point0> cool. i can burn cds and dvds for free
[16:51] <waylandbill> hyw: gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:51] <nikrud> murlidhar: if you're trying to compile something with openssl , you need libssl-dev
[16:51]  * fbc running legacy apps in an XP VMWARE session, and still can't believe it.
[16:51] <recon69> Christoz: sudo makes the next command run as super user, su changes your login to super user so all you command run as super user
[16:51] <leogermani> hi, I was trying to get all my pendrives and ipod to be mounted everytime at the same mountpoint. I right-click ont the ipod icon on the desktop and changed the mount point for the drive to "
[16:51] <leogermani> /media/disk
[16:51] <hyw> waylandbill: hmm still empty
[16:51] <waylandbill> hyw: and it's an L in lst, not a number 1
[16:51] <Christoz> recon69 ok it's understandable thanks
[16:52] <leogermani> now my ipod wont mount anymore... how can I undo this option?
[16:52] <hyw> waylandbill: lol yeah L
[16:52] <nikrud> leogermani: ah, you should have said just disk , it's really misleading
[16:52] <waylandbill> hyw: in a terminal, ls /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:52] <murlidhar> nikrud, i am compiling a torrent client and openssl is just a dependecy. do u think it requires libssl-dev?
[16:52] <nikrud> murlidhar: yes
[16:52] <jake2point0> amendo well i found out that is should work with ndiswrapper
[16:52] <hyw> waylandbill: oh ok now it works
[16:52] <nikrud> murlidhar: all the header files needed to compile against opensll is in libssl-dev
[16:53] <hyw> waylandbill: can I paste it here?
[16:53] <murlidhar> nikrud, thanks anyways . i have i libssl-dev installed
[16:53] <Christoz> waylandbill i've copied the folder in the ftp one (that's the one tat gFTP using) but nothing is there!!!
[16:53] <waylandbill> hyw: to a pastebin
[16:53] <leogermani> nikrud: hmm. I see.. do you know how can I reset this option?
[16:53] <minimec> Does anyone of you have a Logitech G15 Keyboard or some Z-10 speakers?
[16:53] <hyw> waylandbill: can I install pastebin in Livecd
[16:53] <nikrud> leogermani:   gconf-editor /system/storage/volumes , the devices will be under that. Change the mount points there
[16:53] <bieb> !pastebin
[16:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:54] <waylandbill> hyw: pastebin is just a website.
[16:54] <recon69> bazhang : would appera my card uses RalinkRT61 driver
[16:54] <nikrud> murlidhar: very odd then. you may have to tell the configure script where to look for the ssl headers
[16:54] <waylandbill> hyw: paste it there, not in the channel.
[16:54] <hyw> waylandbill: I was given this command sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:54] <murlidhar> amenado, ok it worked . i pkg configured the path of OPENSSL_CFLAGS and OPENSSL_LIBS
[16:54] <minimec> would be nice if you could pastebin me your /cat/bus/proc/input/devices.
[16:54] <amenado> jake2point0-> i have to attend a metting..sorry i have to leave now..
[16:54] <RyanofGilead> Hello, I am tryign to get a game running on my computer, and I keep getting an error message when I try and run it in the console.  Can anyone help?
[16:55] <amenado> murlidhar-> okay cool..am off
[16:55] <murlidhar> nikrud, thanks it is working now. just have to give make command.
[16:55] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, depends what your error message is
[16:55] <ere4si> Christoz: move your file browser to another file then back and it will update
[16:55] <waylandbill> hyw: no. go to http://paster.ubuntu-nl.org in your webbrowser and follow the instructions.
[16:55] <murlidhar> thanks amenado for helping me;
[16:55] <hyw> waylandbill: lol sorry I forgot about internet on that machine
[16:55] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: hold on
[16:55] <bieb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl/org
[16:55] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, use the pastebin
[16:56] <leogermani> nikrud: Cant find it... got only storage > default options > vfat, ntfs, etc...
[16:56] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i updated folders in my gmail through the web interface, and now i'm not able to see the new folders on the left in evolution, imap connection. How do i update these folders? I've tried restarting evolution but no luck?
[16:57] <nikrud> leogermani: you mean you only have default options under storage, no volumes directory?
[16:57] <hyw> waylandbill: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/60310
[16:57] <leogermani> nikrud: yep
[16:57] <Christoz> waylandbill man... it's seems so hard to me the only thing appeared is  file with the name off  the folder that i 've just copied but can't acces it (looks like an empty text file)!!!
[16:57] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: ok, hold on
[16:57] <CShadowRun> umm, i enabled my secondary display with the display manager and now when i login the screen goes yellow for like 10 seconds, then goes black displays a bunch of text and sends me back to the login screen
[16:57] <bieb> net||abuse: do you have to "subscribe" to new folders?
[16:57] <nikrud> leogermani: that seems very strange. are you running sudo gconf-editor ?
[16:57] <CShadowRun> ontop of that the text in the username box is like 80px
[16:57] <leogermani> yes
[16:57] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: Pasted
[16:57] <CShadowRun> and my primary display is scrollable? :S
[16:57] <nikrud> leogermani: don't, you're looking at root's config. just run  gconf-editor as your regular user
[16:58] <waylandbill> Christoz: what was the exact command you wrote to try to copy the folder?
[16:58] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, where?
[16:58] <ere4si> Christoz: what was the command you ran?
[16:58] <kazim59> My Ubuntu caught a virus!! Keybindings are changing... without reason!
[16:58] <RyanofGilead> paste bin
[16:58] <hyw> waylandbill: is it allright?\
[16:58] <NET||abuse> bieb, where's that?
[16:58] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, what's the url, because otherwise i cant see it
[16:58] <recon69> ok, can anyone tell my while i cant upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ? tried the command  gksu "update-manager -c" but find no update
[16:58] <wickedsmaat> Does anyone know how to "clone" an Ubuntu Installation?  Copy all system settings, all installed programs, all system and program preferences to another computer???
[16:58] <nikrud> leogermani: all the gconf settings are per user, it's not a system wide registry like windows is.
[16:58] <waylandbill> hyw: you said /dev/sdc2 earlier for your ubuntu partition right?
[16:58] <RyanofGilead> ok, hold on
[16:58] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60311/
[16:59] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah sdc2
[16:59] <Christoz> waylandbill sudo cp -rv music/ /home/ftp/
[16:59] <wickedsmaat> Does anyone know how to "clone" an Ubuntu Installation?  Copy all system settings, all installed programs, all system and program preferences to another computer???
[16:59] <Exteris> wickedsmaat, just copy over everything, and reinstall grub
[16:59] <nikrud> !clone | wickedsmaat
[16:59] <ubotu> wickedsmaat: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:59] <kazim59> PageDown opens Firefox (how??), and Ctrl+W in pidgin opens "New Message" when I used it to close tabs. How can these bindings changed?
[16:59] <bieb> net||abuse: somewhere in evolution. I am not sure if that is the answer, but give it a try
[16:59] <nikrud> wickedsmaat: and also copy over everything in /home/<username> , that has the user's personal settings and data
[16:59] <Exteris> uhm RyanofGilead what game is it? i really need more info
[17:00] <waylandbill> Christoz: big R  cp -Rv
[17:00] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: Tibia, www.tibia.com
[17:00] <wickedsmaat> Is there a website that can walk me through this process???  I'm a noob at this stuff.
[17:00] <NET||abuse> bieb, under the Folder->subscriptions menu's i see the gmail account and it lists the newly created folders, they are ticked... but they're not appearing on the left..WAIT!!
[17:00] <kazim59> wickedsmaat: is the other machine the same hardware?
[17:00] <waylandbill> NET||abuse: this may sound silly, but did you do a send/receive assuming it doesn't do it at startup?
[17:00] <idefix> are the fonts of kformula and kcontrol somehow connected to each other?
[17:00] <leogermani> nikrud: tks.. solved. I need this because Im writing a python script to copy data to ipod and pendrives.... but for this I need to know beforehand where they are going to be mounted... unless there is a way to find these devices thorough bash script or something
[17:00] <bliffle> Which Heron alpha? mininova=alpha-6 and others are alpha-4
[17:00] <wickedsmaat> No, it's going FROM a Dell Ubuntu Desktop to a laptop I got from e-bay.
[17:00] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, can i see the rest of the output from the game?
[17:00] <NET||abuse> bieb, yeh, it came up there,, dunno why it took so long,, possibly i have 20 different apps running on a 4 y/old laptop is why
[17:01] <Christoz> waylandbill so what i did ...?is there a possibility that the folder is transfered to the "lost*found:one?
[17:01] <bieb> lol
[17:01] <bieb> glad to help
[17:01] <nikrud> leogermani: it makes better sense to give the devices mountpoints imho
[17:01] <pestilence> has anybody figured out ncaa march madness on demand???
[17:01] <NET||abuse> bieb, and like the looney i am, I HAVE to have my compiz
[17:01] <wickedsmaat> No, it's going FROM a Dell Ubuntu Desktop to a laptop I got from e-bay.
[17:01] <NET||abuse> waylandbill, thanks for the suggestion ;)
[17:01] <NET||abuse> waylandbill, all well now :)
[17:01] <bieb> wickedsmaat: is it the same style laptop?
[17:01] <waylandbill> Christoz: if you did cp -rv, that's not the same as cp -Rv
[17:02] <kazim59> What should I do if I don't want my PgDn key to open Firefox?? Instead I want it to do a Page Down..... :( :(
[17:02] <waylandbill> hyw: I know your answer...
[17:02] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: What do you mean by the rest of the output?
[17:02] <wickedsmaat> No, it's going from a DESKTOP to a LAPTOP.
[17:02] <ramseize> Question: im having a problem regarding on how to connect two laptops, what i mean is my internet connection is currently wired on my laptop, and i want to share an internet connection with the other laptop, is it still adhoc? what will i do? how will i do it? hoping for you kind help
[17:02] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, if you run it from a terminal, paste the full output
[17:02] <RyanofGilead> ok
[17:02] <IcemanV9> pestilence: what was your issue? mine wasn't working. :-/ black screen; found out it was missing x-zip plugin
[17:02] <DRebellion> waylandbill, Christoz, actually, both -r and -R (and --recursive) will copy directories
[17:02] <hyw> waylandbill: answer?
[17:02] <omar> Guys I'm having a problem with my desktop (I'm using Hardy Heron Alpha 5), All I can see is the taskbars, and the applications (windows). No background, no icons, not right-click menu.
[17:02] <nikrud> kazim59: did you do some kind of command binding to the pagedown key?
[17:02] <bieb> wickedsmaat: not sure you can clone form desktop to laptop, different drivers and hardware
[17:02] <waylandbill> hyw: change this: root=UUID=22d1a0ea-91d5-43a6-b9eb-d5e3dba58819  to root=/dev/sdc2
[17:02] <pestilence> IcemanV9: it works this year?
[17:02] <wickedsmaat> okay, thanks.
[17:02] <DRebellion> omar, /join #ubuntu+1
[17:02] <omar> Can any one help me please??
[17:03] <Christoz> waylandbill now gives me a permission denied statement
[17:03] <kazim59> nikrud: I swear, I didn't do anything. It happened all of a sudden.
[17:03] <nikrud> waylandbill: using devices directly may cause issues down the road
[17:03] <kazim59> nikrud: I even don't know how to set keyboard bindings but...
[17:03] <ramseize> Question: im having a problem regarding on how to connect two laptops, what i mean is my internet connection is currently wired on my laptop, and i want to share an internet connection with the other laptop, is it still adhoc? what will i do? how will i do it? hoping for you kind help
[17:03] <Christoz> waylandbill wait a sec (sorry)
[17:03] <waylandbill> DRebellion: hmm.. darned if you aren't correct. I must've been thinking different command
[17:03] <IcemanV9> pestilence: yes, but all i got is black screen (cannot see anything)
[17:03] <nikrud> kazim59: are you using compiz?
[17:03] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: That ws the full output
[17:03] <RyanofGilead> was*
[17:03] <waylandbill> nikrud: as bad as not booting presently?
[17:03] <pestilence> IcemanV9: oh, well it doesn't even load a plugin for me.  i just get an error message
[17:03] <kazim59> nikrud: no Nikrud.
[17:04] <nikrud> waylandbill: as a short term solution, no :)
[17:04] <omar> DRebellion: Is this another Ubuntu room on IRC?
[17:04] <bieb> net||abuse: where were you able to add folders in gmail??
[17:04] <kazim59> nikrud: I checked the Keyboard Shortcuts app, and I found Launch Web Browser set to PgDn. But there's a greater trouble here.
[17:04] <DRebellion> omar, it is the hardy room
[17:04] <Exteris> RyanofGilead, does it say Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". before that?
[17:04] <Christoz> waylandbill nope didn't work either
[17:05] <RyanofGilead> Exteris: No
[17:05] <sveakex> hey, i am on a sony vgn-c2s laptop, when i plug in my headphones the normal speakers are not muted
[17:05] <sveakex> how can i solve this?
[17:05] <waylandbill> nikrud: I have a feeling his UUID changed and he can't boot. Simpler solution than determining his new UUID.
[17:05] <kazim59> nikrud: for example Launch Calculator is set to 0xa1, Launch help is 0xf5... what are these keys?
[17:05] <omar> DRebellion: Thanks, but I couldn't find it in  the list. (I'm using XChat)
[17:05] <IcemanV9> pestilence: my other box is running on dapper; it gives me an error message saying that i need to update the plugin (new window media player)
[17:05] <DRebellion> omar, that's odd
[17:05] <erUSUL> omar: and other language support rooms
[17:05] <recon69> Christoz: so you login does not have permision eather to read the file or right in the directory you trying to copy them to. you can eather change the permissions or change your user
[17:05] <pestilence> IcemanV9: thats the one
[17:05] <NET||abuse> bieb, no no,, hah,, it's labels, the way gmail(googlemail) works is when you create labels for your emails, the imap store creates a folder with that label name, then emails with that label are symlinked to the folder
[17:06] <nikrud> kazim59:   run gconf-editor /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/keybindings , you can change it there. Those are the keycodes for keys that aren't named, like pgup
[17:06] <omar> erUSUL: can you name some?
[17:06] <ere4si> Christoz: can you - in you're file browser - right click the /home/ftp folder select properties and check who owns it?
[17:06] <nikrud> kazim59: try setting www  to  a blank
[17:06] <hyw> waylandbill: there are many lines with these numbers and letters shall I change them all?
[17:06] <erUSUL> !es i'm op there | omar
[17:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es i'm op there - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:06] <tgillespie> hi, does anyone use glade? how can i make a 'wizard like' interface, similar to the one used by gnome-pilot in evolution
[17:06] <bieb> net||abuse: gotcha... I was wondering, I was going to go into gmail and start creating folders and moving stuff around. I already have labels setup
[17:06] <erUSUL> !es | i'm op there omar
[17:06] <hyw> waylandbill: 3 actally
[17:06] <ubotu> i'm op there omar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:07] <arash> ubotu totem
[17:07] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[17:07] <kazim59> nikrud: thanks nikrud, I've set it to blank. And it is fine now. But one more problem...
[17:07] <waylandbill> hyw: shouldn't be a problem.
[17:07] <omar> erUSUL: can you name some?
[17:07] <erUSUL> omar: where are you from?
[17:07]  * nikrud makes a note to stay out of es
[17:07] <omar> erUSUL: I'm from Jordan
[17:07] <Lainy> Does anyone know how to change system beep into speaker beep?
[17:07] <nikrud> kazim59: ?
[17:07]  * erUSUL makes a mental note about nikrud ... XD
[17:08] <DRebellion> Lainy, you mean hardware buzzer to actual speakers?
[17:08] <kazim59> nikrud: I used to use Ctrl+W to close tabs in pidgin (also in firefox etc.). This fine morning, I found that Ctrl+W opens up "New Instant Message" dialogbox. #pidgin has no clue.
[17:08] <IcemanV9> pestilence: dang. yea. i am disappointed that there is no update plugin in the repo. *sigh* even on the latest version of ubuntu, it just showed black screen. pretty much useless.
[17:08] <Lainy> DRebellion: Yes
[17:08] <recon69> hell, think i going to have to use windows till next LTS comes out.
[17:08] <Df_Yz> Hello all.
[17:08] <jpatrick> !hi | Df_Yz
[17:08] <ubotu> Df_Yz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:08] <Df_Yz> Can you help me?
[17:08] <jpatrick> !ask | Df_Yz
[17:08] <ubotu> Df_Yz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:08] <Christoz> ere4si owner:root group:nogroup
[17:08] <tgillespie> recon69 why whats up?
[17:08] <erUSUL> omar: usually the loco channels are #ubuntu-<iso code of country>
[17:08] <Exteris> recon69, the next version will come out in less than a week or 2, and that ones a lts
[17:09] <kazim59> nikrud: Didn't update pidgin. But now even the menu shows "New Instant Message Ctrl+W". How can a binding change overnight?
[17:09] <hyw> waylandbill: done
[17:09] <sveakex> hey, i am on a sony vgn-c2s laptop, when i plug in my headphones the normal speakers are not muted.
[17:09] <ere4si> Christoz: and it's in you're /home folder?
[17:09] <Christoz> ere4si yep!
[17:09] <nikrud> kazim59: hm. very strange indeed. a sec, I don't use pidgin. Need to look at the configs
[17:09] <waylandbill> hyw: reboot and cross fingers.
[17:09] <sveakex> how can i solve this issue?
[17:09] <hyw> waylandbill: lol
[17:09] <recon69> cant get my 6.06 to up grade to 6.10, and cant get my wireless working on 6.06.
[17:10] <Exteris> recon69, i'd just reinstall to 8.04
[17:10] <ere4si> Christoz: you need to chown that folder
[17:10] <mamour_> !cvs
[17:10] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[17:10] <tgillespie> recon69 why not install 7.10?
[17:10] <Df_Yz> I'm need to apply IMQ patch on iptables. In IMQ FAQ people says, that I must apply it on sources from netfilter.org
[17:10] <waylandbill> hyw: the hd(2,1) should be okay for sdc2, so you should be good to go
[17:10] <DRebellion> recon69, just clean install 8.04
[17:10] <kazim59> nikrud: Well thanks. Thats one strange thing in my ubuntu experience (which has been very good for many years) :)
[17:10] <Df_Yz> p.s. sory for my bad English :)
[17:10] <reza_20> salam
[17:10] <iNeo> sveakex: thats normal a hardware switch and not software
[17:10] <Christoz> ere4si can you guide me please?
[17:10] <mamour_> !svn
[17:10] <rwycuff> xomp: orinoco_usb driver is that installed on your laptop
[17:10] <Df_Yz> How I can debianise package after patch?
[17:10] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[17:10] <bieb> kazim: on pidgin 2.2.1 Ctrl+m = new instant message
[17:10] <Df_Yz> *debianize source
[17:10] <Df_Yz> ))
[17:10] <hyw> waylandbill: no such partition :S
[17:10] <nikrud> kazim59: try putting the mouse cursor over the close window menu item, and pressing ctl-w
[17:11] <sveakex> iNeo, so how can i solve it? on vista i didn't have this issue
[17:11] <iNeo> sveakex: Are you not using the line-out
[17:11] <ere4si> Christoz: sudo chown -Rv :you:you /home/ftp - you = your login name and make sure the folder name is right
[17:11] <recon69> tgillespie: well one of the reasons i stopped using windows was having to reinstall it every 6 months or so. doing good with 6.06, got a good two years and would not change only for wpa not working with my card.
[17:11] <iNeo> sveakex:  ???, I don't no
[17:11] <kazim59> nikrud: Beeps.
[17:12] <nikrud> no change?
[17:12] <sveakex> iNeo, it's alright, it's just really weird.
[17:12] <ere4si> Christoz: sudo chown -Rv you:you /home/ftp
[17:12] <iNeo> sveakex: I agree
[17:12] <hyw> waylandbill: I would reinstall but I hope I wouldnt confront the same issue
[17:13] <kazim59> nikrud: No. Earlier, "New Instant Message" was Ctrl+M, I clearly remember.
[17:13] <Christoz> ere4si console says :invalid group
[17:13] <bieb> kazim59: you are correct I have 2.2.1 running Ctrl+M = New Instant Message
[17:13] <nikrud> kazim59: what I'm trying to do is use the gtk system for changing keystrokes. A sec, while I look for how to enable
[17:13] <waylandbill> hyw: I would think that a re-install would fix it. I wouldn't recommend that unless you have good backups already.
[17:14] <benkong2> hello all
[17:14] <recon69> Christoz: did you yous your group name instead of "you"
[17:14] <Christoz> ere4si actually this:chown: `:chemical:chemical': invalid group
[17:14] <benkong2> can wgetpaste be used on ubuntu?
[17:14] <kazim59> bieb: an angel has changed it to Ctrl+W for me. Overnight.
[17:14] <Df_Yz> I'm need to apply IMQ patch on iptables. In IMQ FAQ people says, that I must apply it on sources from netfilter.org. So, I download sources and patch, do what I need to patch. How I can make a debian package "in Ubuntu(Debian) way"? I think, threre is many another patches\addons in repo package.
[17:14] <recon69> your/use
[17:14] <hyw> waylandbill: its a new install nothing to backup
[17:14] <bieb> kazim59: nice angel
[17:14] <bieb> lol
[17:14] <Christoz> ere4si chemical is me
[17:14] <hyw> waylandbill: but how can I fix the root problem so that it does not occur again
[17:15] <ere4si> Christoz: there was a typo - sudo chown -Rv chemical:chemical /home/chemical/ftp
[17:15] <ibrahimkocyigit> hi guys
[17:15] <kazim59> nikrud: Hey nikrud, I changed it to Ctrl+M the way you told me. I didn't know if GTK allowed to make shortcuts like that? Is this a general way?
[17:15] <hyw> hi
[17:15] <waylandbill> hyw: oh. you just installed and it's doing that? I thought you had done some hardware changes. :-/
[17:15] <nikrud> kazim59: gconf-editor/desktop/gnome/interface/can_change_accels , enable that and try the mouse over the menu item, press preferred keys
[17:15] <xomp> rwycuff, not that I know of.
[17:15] <nikrud> kazim59: yes
[17:15] <Lainy> Does anyone know how to change the system beep so that my speakers beep instead?
[17:15] <kazim59> nikrud: Thanks. I've set Ctrl+W for the Close item. And its working now...
[17:16] <kazim59> nikrud: I guess sometime I may've made this accident of changin accels. Since I really don't believe on angels...
[17:16] <IcemanV9> is there x-gzip decoder plugin for totem?? i got an error message that it is missing.
[17:16] <nikrud> kazim59: you might want to go to that gconf-editor key and disable it after you have them back to normal
[17:16] <Christoz> ere4si no it wasn't the folder of mine that  my friend is seeing through gFTP is /home/ftp
[17:16] <rwycuff> xomp : ok was this wireless card built in
[17:16] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah lol I just reinstalled actually, was having Grub Error 17 before yesterday and fixed it with fixmbr windows recovery console
[17:16] <ere4si> k
[17:16] <kazim59> nikrud: Thanks a lot. You solved 2 problems today.
[17:16] <Christoz> ere4si no it wasn't.... the folder of mine that  my friend is seeing through gFTP is /home/ftp
[17:16] <ere4si> k
[17:16] <nikrud> kazim59: makes up for yesterday ;)
[17:16] <xomp> rwycuff, sort of yes, it attaches to the top of the laptop and according to ubuntu, it's using the prism2_usb driver out of box
[17:17] <burken_> !beta
[17:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beta - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:17] <burken_> !heron
[17:17] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:17] <jdecoste> 'llo
[17:17] <waylandbill> hyw: any idea what led to the error 17? did something change?
[17:17] <ere4si> Christoz: the typo was the extra : in front of you:you
[17:17] <jdecoste> i have an error with my xorg.conf
[17:17] <jdecoste> for some reason my keyboard ain't working anymore
[17:17] <salmander> which pci-e hardware raid5 card would you guys recommend that is supported by either opensuse or ubuntu/debian out of the box?
[17:17] <rwycuff> xomp:and this wireless card mac is in your mac filter right
[17:18] <bieb> salmander: 3ware
[17:18] <Christoz> ere4si so is this the right one? sudo cchown -Rv :chemical: /home/ftp
[17:18] <xomp> rwycuff, yes.
[17:18] <Christoz> ere4si so is this the right one? sudo cchown -Rv :chemical /home/ftp
[17:18] <dhaiems> join
[17:18] <Christoz> chown
[17:18] <hyw> waylandbill: lol I messed up with ubuntu it was a new install so I erased the drive tried to install again and it led to grub error 17
[17:18] <waylandbill> hyw: how many hard drives are in your box? 3?
[17:18] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah
[17:18] <sveakex> can anybody help me with sound issues?
[17:18] <ibrahimkocyigit> i have never used ubuntu but i want to. so i downloaded 7.10 amd and wrote it to a cd. my computer is hp tx1000 (amd). i boot my computer from cd. and try to install ubuntu. but a white screen comes, and nothing else happens. before the white screen it says 'can't set the system clock' etc. what do you think is the problem? (ps: there is vista on my computer and i did not uninstall it and...
[17:18] <ibrahimkocyigit> ...formatted my computer)
[17:18] <Christoz> ere4si so is this the right one? sudo chown -Rv :chemical /home/ftp
[17:18] <dhaiems> i want join chat
[17:19] <ere4si> Christoz: sudo chown -Rv chemical:chemical /home/ftp
[17:19] <xomp> rwycuff, for some reason I think maybe there's an issue with my network. Seems I'm having probs throught the house with certain pc's. My media center PC can't get online either now for some reason, but I have 2 other pc's that can get online (these are all wired connections not wireless). So something is awry :(
[17:19] <hyw> waylandbill: 1 storage 1 windows 1 ubuntu
[17:19] <rwycuff> xomp:ok that other driver i said is one on line that is also known to work
[17:19] <dhaiems> i want join chat
[17:20] <rwycuff> xomp:what kinda router you use
[17:20] <Pici> dhaiems: What are you looking for?
[17:20] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, awhile back ago I heard of the orinco drivers heeh. I use a linksys router currently.
[17:20] <dhaiems> no apa bisa di report
[17:20] <Christoz> ere4si yupee!!! you are a Diamond
[17:20] <high> hey guys im in dire of some Serious help!... i installed alsa drivers according to instructions found online... and i am not getting any sound... dmesg returns the following error !  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60302/
[17:20] <bieb> dhaiems: then jump in and chat
[17:20] <Pici> !id | dhaiems
[17:20] <ubotu> dhaiems: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[17:20] <waylandbill> hyw: it has to be that grub doesn't think it's hd(2,1) if grub is giving the error. I'm trying to figure out how to get grub to list the devices it sees.
[17:20] <ibrahimkocyigit> can anyone help me please?
[17:21] <dhaiems> yes i want to joint, im indonesia man
[17:21] <ere4si> Christoz: happy for you :)
[17:21] <Pici> dhaiems: type /join #ubuntu-id
[17:21] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: did you say you did NOT uninstall Vista?
[17:21] <hyw> waylandbill: u said earlier that super grub disk can cause issues
[17:21] <gem2501> waylandbill: grub has tab-completion
[17:21] <ibrahimkocyigit> yes i did not :(
[17:21] <rwycuff> xomp:have yuo tried power cycling the thing to see if that fixes the other pc's
[17:21] <hyw> waylandbill: and I used that disk to install grub
[17:22] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: desktop or laptop?
[17:22] <Christoz> ere4si i have to read the book
[17:22] <ibrahimkocyigit> laptop
[17:22] <dhaiems> pici i want join
[17:22] <ibrahimkocyigit> hp tx1000
[17:22] <ibrahimkocyigit> amd
[17:22] <xomp> rwycuff, nope, lemmee try (may disconnect here) :)
[17:22] <ere4si> Christoz: it takes practise
[17:22] <chdst> waylandbill: To get grub to do tab completion on devices, it's not completely intuitive. Try root (<tab> to get a list.
[17:22] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: you will probably have to use the Ubuntu alternate CD
[17:22] <ere4si> Christoz: I read here then practise
[17:22] <ibrahimkocyigit> that's the fifth cd i used..
[17:22] <chdst> ...if tha tmakes any sense. :)
[17:22] <hyw> waylandbill: because I installed ubuntu but the grub was missing dunno why so it just boots to windows after the installation
[17:22] <ibrahimkocyigit> and a dvd =(
[17:23] <ibrahimkocyigit> i downloaded it three times
[17:23] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: the alternate Cd does not use the GUI installer
[17:23] <dhaiems> how are you
[17:23] <rockcityvi> Good day everyone
[17:23] <sinbox> high try in #alsa
[17:23] <Christoz> ere4si yes reading & practicing
[17:23] <ibrahimkocyigit> oh ok. i will search information about alternate cs
[17:23] <ibrahimkocyigit> cd
[17:23] <ere4si> :)
[17:23] <ibrahimkocyigit> thanx bieb
[17:23] <waylandbill> hyw: if you did fixmbr, it put a windows boot loader. You need to put grub in place of that.
[17:23] <anteaya> my goal it to get my EDIROL UA-25 external sound card working with ubuntu feisty.  I am dual booted with Windows XP and the UA-25 came with software for windows but none for linux.  Where should I begin?
[17:24] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: in ubuntu forums, do a search for your model laptop. there were good instructions for my HP laptop
[17:24] <Seveas> anteaya, plug it in and see is ubuntu autodetects it
[17:24] <waylandbill> hyw: the hd(x,x) to put in grub all depends on the drive you told the bios is your boot drive or your boot order.
[17:24] <hyw> waylandbill: now I have a grub used super grub disk to fix linux
[17:24] <ibrahimkocyigit> bieb: thanks..
[17:24] <fevel> does anyone have any experience using vncserver, when I login to remotely control my ubuntu box it displays me an ugly X screen with a terminal in a window instead of gnome, can anybody help me?
[17:24] <bieb> ibrahimkocyigit: glad to help
[17:24] <anteaya> Seveas: i have and there is no power going to the sound card so I would have to assume no detection
[17:25] <Svenstaro> fevel, type "gnome-session" in the terminal
[17:25] <anteaya> Seveas: or is there a command to confirm this?
[17:25] <waylandbill> hyw: and you installed it to your windows drive or your linux drive?
[17:25] <cptmorgan> what package do i lock if i dont want the kernel to be updated? linux-kernel-version or linux-kernel-generic
[17:25] <tiax> is there a way to use MS VirtualPC images under Ubuntu? A converter or something?
[17:25] <rockcityvi> Will I have any problems using a shared network printer that is on a windows machine?
[17:25] <hyw> waylandbill: ubuntu?
[17:25] <Seveas> anteaya, try #alsa, they're good at soundcards
[17:25] <nauwra> is there a way to modify window behavior in gnome via a text config file? trying to have right-click rollup windows.
[17:25] <Seveas> tiax, no
[17:25] <anteaya> Seveas: thank you
[17:26] <hyw> waylandbill: installed ubuntu or grub?
[17:26] <waylandbill> hyw: the drive you installed grub to. Your ubuntu drive?
[17:26] <hyw> waylandbill: not sure really just loaded the cd then chose fix linux
[17:26] <bieb> tiax: there is no converter, but you can try Virtual Box, it is available for Windows and Linux
[17:26] <alwrwr2003> hi
[17:26] <fevel> Svenstaro, on the terminal that appears from the remote machine right?
[17:26] <alwrwr2003> from where can i install GTK?
[17:26] <tiax> Seveas: really, nothing? I've read some guys talk about an import feature in vmware-server, but that menu item is missing in my installation from gutsy-partner repos
[17:27] <Svenstaro> fevel, yes
[17:27] <cst-student> can anyone point me in the direction of getting a doc for ubuntu?
[17:27] <jastiv> I installed build-essential but I'm still not able to configure.
[17:27] <bieb> cst-student: what doc?
[17:27] <waylandbill> hyw: It may be a bit of a hack but, since hd(2,1) doesn't work, try hd(1,1) and hd(0,1) and see if they make a difference.
[17:27] <Seveas> !comipiling | jastiv
[17:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comipiling - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:27] <cst-student> bieb, like a icon doc
[17:27] <leogermani> whats the easiest way to make any pendrive or ipod to be mounted allways at the same mountpoint (even if I can use onlu one at a time)??
[17:27] <tiax> bieb: too bad. It's just that I have some premade images (windows+ie -testing images from microsoft.com) I want to use for webdev testing etc
[17:27] <bieb> cst-student: have you searched Ubuntu forums?
[17:28] <alwrwr2003> guys how can i install GTK+?
[17:28] <bieb> tiax: I see... yeah that bites
[17:28] <cst-student> bieb, nope
[17:28] <shandy>  /join #django
[17:28] <recon69> jastiv: think you need to install "make" to use configure
[17:28] <hyw> waylandbill: hmm how do I try
[17:28] <Seveas> leogermani, give them the same disklabel
[17:29] <bieb> cst-student: check there first, they would have the most docs https://help.ubuntu.com/
[17:29] <waylandbill> hyw: by mounting sdc2 to /mnt and editing /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst and trying each one.
[17:29] <leogermani> Seveas: impossible. the idea is exactly to get any pendrive ... even unknown ones
[17:29] <recon69> jastiv: look up "make" in packet manager and see if you have it installed
[17:29] <nauwra> alwrwr2003, ubuntu comes with gtk+ 2 by default
[17:29]  * grumpy_gramps I have a new ubuntu 7.10 install and my pentium III box is id'd as an i386.  Consequently many of the shipped apps will not install.  Is this usual?
[17:29] <Seveas> leogermani, modify udev rules
[17:30] <alwrwr2003> i can't install pidgin 2.4 it says i don't have GTK+
[17:30] <bieb> grumpy not that I know of
[17:30] <alwrwr2003> You must have the GTK+ 2.0 development headers installed to compile Pidgin.
[17:30] <alwrwr2003> If you want to build only Finch then specify --disable-gtkui when running configure.
[17:30] <leogermani> Seveas: can you point me where I learn to do that?
[17:30] <alwrwr2003> this is the msg i got
[17:30] <Seveas> leogermani, looking already :O)
[17:30] <CShadowRun> can anyone take a look at my xorg.conf and try and get my secondary display to work?
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> alwrwr2003, you can get that in a deb from getdeb.net  i believe
[17:30] <tiax> alwrwr2003: try the .deb files from getdeb.net
[17:30] <CShadowRun> i tried using this tutorial and managed to make aticonfig core dump...yay.
[17:30] <leogermani> CShadowRun: what video card youre using?
[17:31] <CShadowRun> ATI Radeon X1600 (Dual head)
[17:31] <tiax> alwrwr2003: or if you must compile it yourself, try typing apt-get build-dep pidgin first, that would install its dependencies
[17:31] <Kira> Hi guys.
[17:31] <alwrwr2003> k thank a will try now
[17:31] <hyw> waylandbill: will boot wih LiveCD now
[17:31] <CShadowRun> http://rafb.net/p/1DPT0F77.html heres my xorg.conf :P
[17:31] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: what apps?
[17:32]  * grumpy_gramps bieb xChat
[17:32] <Kira> What should I install if I want to run my own mail server? libnet-smtp-server-perl?
[17:32] <waylandbill> hyw: okay. good luck. I'll cross my fingers. :-D
[17:32] <ricko12345> can i extract .tar archive in windows
[17:32] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: is there an error? how are you trying to install?
[17:32] <erUSUL> ricko12345: yes most archive programs support them
[17:32] <ffazzio> hello all. I am currently stuck, and was hoping I could bother the channel for assistance please.
[17:32] <hyw> waylandbill: lol but I dont really know where to change the hd thingy in menu.lst
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> alwrwr2003, http://getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin
[17:32] <erUSUL> ricko12345: winrar; 7zip; peazip etc
[17:33] <ricko12345> winrar
[17:33]  * grumpy_gramps I use add/remove
[17:33] <dgjones> !ask | ffazzio
[17:33] <ubotu> ffazzio: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:33] <caceresa> how to enable ATI  acce
[17:33] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: try this... open a terminal... type in   sudo apt-get install xchat
[17:33] <ffazzio> ty
[17:33] <Seveas> leogermani, it should be somewhere in /etc/udev
[17:33] <caceresa> how to enable ATI   dirvers
[17:33] <Seveas> but I can't find it :)
[17:33] <waylandbill> hyw: the root line.
[17:33] <hyw> waylandbill: isnt there a way to erase everything and start from scratch
[17:34] <HugoB> Hello
[17:34]  * grumpy_gramps thank you bieb I'll try it
[17:34] <benkong2> could someone tell my how to correct this apt-error http://pastebin.ca/950543
[17:35] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: ok.. let us know if it works or if there is another error
[17:35] <ffazzio> I have a 7.10 install, that I was performing an update of Envy on from Ubuntu4 to Ubuntu7, during the update via double clicking the .deb package I accidently hit cancel.  This caused the installer to fail, and not respond.  So I rebooted my PC.  Now when I try to boot into Ubuntu normal or recovery I get the following error: unable to execute /bin/sh for rcS: No such file or directory
[17:35] <waylandbill> hyw: when you reinstall you tell it to format, but I'd try changing grub's root argument. It doesn't always follow the same order as device names from the kernel.
[17:35] <H0lyD4wg> how can i open two gnome sessions simultaneously?
[17:35] <caceresa> how enable ATI graphics Driver ?
[17:35] <ritalin> yo
[17:35] <ffazzio> I boot from the liveCD to try and mount my OS install and I am unable to mount the FS to perform diagnostics.
[17:35] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver ?
[17:35] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver ?
[17:36] <ritalin> whats the command to fetch the google earth after you install the google earth package?
[17:36] <LjL-Temp> !repeat | caceresa
[17:36] <ubotu> caceresa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:36] <erUSUL> !ati | caceresa
[17:36] <ubotu> caceresa: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:36] <leogermani> Seveas: neuther do I
[17:36] <LjL-Temp> ritalin: err... if you have installed the package, then it's installed and there is nothing to fetch.
[17:36] <erUSUL> ffazzio: can you give as the error you get??
[17:36] <LjL-Temp> ritalin: i personally would suggest you get the package from Medibuntu
[17:36] <benkong2> updated http://pastebin.ca/950546
[17:36] <ritalin> LjL-Temp: it doesnt install the package, it allows you to build your own
[17:36] <ritalin> google wont allow you redistirbute it
[17:37] <ritalin> !google earth
[17:37] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[17:37] <LjL-Temp> !medibuntu | ritalin
[17:37] <ubotu> ritalin: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:37] <ritalin> ok
[17:37] <ritalin> ty
[17:37] <fabouney> What directory is remanded to install an application ?
[17:37] <fabouney> recommended*
[17:37] <armand> how can i get new version of ubuntu
[17:37] <LjL-Temp> fabouney: if it's an application you're building yourself, /usr/local or /opt
[17:37] <dfs> hey guys!~ im having the hardest time starting my sound card drivers... i installed the newest alsa drivers and after that no sound worked!>.. dmesg returns the following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60302/
[17:37] <LjL-Temp> !ubuntu | armand
[17:37] <ubotu> armand: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <fabouney> for example i install Flex builder IDE
[17:38] <ffazzio> erUSUL: I boot into the console, issue sudo fdisk -l and I see three partitions /dev/sda1 ID 83 / System Linux :: /dev/sda2 ID 5 System Extended and /dev/sda5 ID 8e Linux LVM
[17:38] <ffazzio> the /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 both have the same start and end blocks.
[17:38] <fabouney> LjL-Temp, For exemple i've installed Flex Builder
[17:38] <ricko12345> is there a way to tweak net speed in ubuntu becouse i did in suse
[17:38] <ffazzio> i tried to so a mount /dev/sda2 /mnt and mount /dev/sda5 /mnt and both say I must specify a filesystem type.  I tried ext2 to no avail.
[17:39] <HugoB> I'm trying to install ubuntu. All goes fine until setup starts detecting hardware. Then it just hangs there. Either it doesnt like my SS2 or the USB WIFI adapter.. What to do?
[17:39] <FastZ> what port are you supposed to on when using IRC?  6667 is one of them, what's the other one?
[17:39] <LjL-Temp> fabouney, no idea about it, just don't touch /usr. use /usr/local or /opt (/opt being more apt for programs that don't follow the normal unix directory conventions)
[17:39] <bieb> fastZ there are a few ports 6669 is another
[17:39] <rsp2k> #dvb-livecd
[17:39] <ffazzio> fastz: i think it's tcp 6660 - 6669
[17:40] <peter77> if I install php5 on my ubuntu gutsy system will that enable me to run php scripts locally as if they were on a server?
[17:40] <FastZ> what is the one that you sometimes get here in #ubuntu saying there's a security flaw in one port and you need to switch to using another one instead
[17:40] <IcemanV9> pestilence: are u still there?
[17:40] <LjL-Temp> peter77: uh, "as if they were on a server" - no, you need a server, such as apache2. of course you can then just reach it locally.
[17:40] <FastZ> i know a few times before i got kicked from this channel for using the default IRC port
[17:40] <peter77> yeah
[17:40] <peter77> installed apache2
[17:41] <LjL-Temp> peter77: otherwise, you can install "php5-cli" and use it as a scripting language like many - but nothing to do with the web
[17:41] <LjL-Temp> peter77: then yes.
[17:41] <LjL-Temp> !lamp > peter77
[17:41] <bieb> fastz: try 6669
[17:41] <AldarHawk> I am having major issues with my wireless card (again).  I run a dmesg and get the error: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13).  the only problem I have is this used to work until recently.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[17:41] <Yanch0> is there any type of trashbin in ubuntu? if yes how can i go to it so i empty it please?
[17:42] <minimec> dfs: did you modify 'sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base' with 'options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL
[17:42] <Fesek> Is anyone else having trouble downloading package info from the repositories?
[17:42] <minimec> *
[17:42] <Seveas> Yanch0, look at the bottom right of your screen
[17:42] <dfs> minimec: no i didnt lemme try!
[17:42] <Yanch0> great thanks Seveas :)
[17:42] <peter77> I also take it setting this up on my laptop will not cause any performance issues?
[17:42] <hyw> waylandbill: which root line do I have to change in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60318/
[17:42] <minimec> dfs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto (at the end)
[17:42] <peter77> as I will only be using it for testing and not public access
[17:42] <minimec> dfs:  in the last third ;)
[17:43] <waylandbill> hyw: line 131
[17:43] <HugoB> I'm trying to install ubuntu. All goes fine until setup starts detecting hardware. Then it just hangs there. Either it doesnt like my SS2 or the USB WIFI adapter.. What to do?
[17:43] <erUSUL> ffazzio: if you are using lvm you may have to specify a different /dev/* node not just the partition directly
[17:43] <ere4si> HugoB: ss2?
[17:43] <HugoB> skystar 2
[17:44] <hyw> waylandbill: to (hd1,1) and reboot?
[17:44] <HugoB> how come it hangs
[17:44]  * grumpy_gramps on execution it reports not found
[17:44] <benkong2> I have an apt-get install -f problem would someone mind looking here http://pastebin.ca/950546 and advise me on how to proceed?
[17:44] <keithclark> Why is it that when I share a folder through smb that it asks me for a password on a remote computer?  I tried the same one as I log in on on the hosting machine and it does not work
[17:45] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: how did you execute?
[17:45] <chdst> HugoB: Is the installer completely frozen at that point, or do you think you've be able to "Alt+F4" to get a more useful error message than, well, no error message.
[17:45] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:45] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:45] <AldarHawk> I am having major issues with my wireless card (again).  I run a dmesg and get the error: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13).  the only problem I have is this used to work until recently.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[17:45]  * grumpy_gramps in the term window I executed the command string you suggested
[17:45] <hyw> waylandbill: sorry I just started using linux few days back
[17:45] <RoAkSoAx> !md5
[17:45] <LjL-Temp> eeerrrr
[17:45] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[17:45] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:45] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:45] <Yanch0> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop ? trying to remove gnome-games and it needs to remove ubunt-desktop too
[17:45] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:46] <IcemanV9> !repeat
[17:46] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:46] <bieb> grumpy_gramps you mean the apt-get fails?
[17:46] <HugoB> chdst: it froze completely
[17:46] <dfs> minimec: what do i put for MODEL? cause when i do cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec ... itsays directly not found
[17:46]  * grumpy_gramps yes
[17:46] <taime1_> question about console-kit-daemon.... is it caused by fast user switching?
[17:46] <HugoB> chdst: I can try again and perhaps get the error message, alt+f4 that is?
[17:46] <tiara299> hi there
[17:47] <tiara299> hi there, reach me at tiara299@tradeyourpics.com
[17:47] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:47] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: sudo apt-get install xchat  you enter your password and what is the exact error?
[17:47] <caceresa> how to enable ATI graphics Driver on terminal ?
[17:47] <AldarHawk> I am having major issues with my wireless card (again).  I run a dmesg and get the error: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13).  the only problem I have is this used to work until recently.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[17:47] <Slart> caceresa: there is no point in repeating every 30 secs.. wait at least 5 minutes before repeating
[17:48] <chdst> HugoB: It's probably worth a shot. I asked because I'm not familiar enough with that step of the install process or hardware compatibility to hazard a guess. If there was a good error message in the installer debug logs, though, we might be able to get to the root of the problem more quickly.
[17:48] <dabbill> What is the wine channel?
[17:48] <meanoflife> server irc.freenode.net
[17:48] <Slart> dabbill: #winehq
[17:48] <LjL-Temp> dabbill: first left the beer one. but also #winehq
[17:48] <dabbill> Slart, thanks
[17:48] <taime1_> what is fast user switching? is it the same as logging out and then in again as a different user?
[17:49] <waylandbill> hyw: try hd(1,1) and if unsuccessful hd(0,1)
[17:49] <rockcityvi> Will I be able to use a shared printer that is a windows network?
[17:49] <HugoB> chdst: how do I see the deubg logs
[17:49] <rockcityvi> on a windows network, I mean
[17:49] <Slart> taime1_: I think it keeps the apps and stuff running for the first user.. even while the second one is logged in..
[17:49] <xq> taime1_: But retaining user settings, windows and current states when you log in/out
[17:49] <xq> Slart: yep! correcto.
[17:49] <taime1_> how do i use it?
[17:50] <Some_Person> I'm having trouble getting aMSN to run
[17:50] <Slart> taime1_: press the little exit icon.. the door thingy.. and "switch user"
[17:50] <Some_Person> I get a huge long error
[17:50] <taime1_> oh duh...
[17:50] <digin4> i'm having trouble waking up early
[17:50] <hyw> waylandbill: just tried 0,1 didn twork now trying 1.1
[17:50] <hyw> 1,1
[17:50] <chdst> HugoB: That's what's being printed to the 4th virtual console during the install. Sorry to change up terms on you. It's genreally only useful to look at that if something breaks on you. :)
[17:50] <taime1_> well, can that feature be removed?
[17:50] <Stupid^Kid> can some one give me a copy of file /etc/init.d/vsftpd
[17:50] <chdst> HugoB: You can hit Alt+F4 to view it, and Alt+F1 to return to the installer UI.
[17:50] <Some_Person> Can someone help me? aMSN wont run!
[17:51] <erUSUL> Stupid^Kid: reinstall the package?
[17:51] <Slart> taime1_: why would you want to do that?.. just curious..
[17:51] <Seveas> Some_Person, pastebin the error
[17:51] <Some_Person> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60319/
[17:51] <fabouney> where i can get the lastest sourcelist ?
[17:51] <HugoB> chdst: alright, thanks, I'll go try again
[17:51] <benkong2> fabouney: !sources
[17:51] <Seveas> Some_Person, reinstall amsn
[17:51] <erUSUL> fabouney: there is no such a thing  "lastest sourcelist"
[17:51] <taime1_> slart: well, i read that fast user switching is what causes console-kit-daemon to run... and i dont want to have to kill it all the time, plus, i dont use fast user switching
[17:51]  * grumpy_gramps Reading package list  done;  building dependency tree;  reading state information....done;  E: Couldn't find package xchat
[17:52] <benkong2> !sources
[17:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[17:52] <jake2point0> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.28 but i have a higher version installed already.  how do i get the older version
[17:52] <Seveas> grumpy_gramps, don't abuse the /me command
[17:52] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: sudo apt-get update
[17:52] <Stupid^Kid> i install it with source , and finish my configure ,so i'm afraid if i reinstall it something may goes bad
[17:52] <Yanch0> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop ? trying to remove gnome-games and it needs to remove ubunt-desktop too
[17:52] <AldarHawk> I am having major issues with my wireless card (again).  I run a dmesg and get the error: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13).  the only problem I have is this used to work until recently.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[17:52] <Stupid^Kid> erUSUL: i install it with source , and finish my configure ,so i'm afraid if i reinstall it something may goes bad
[17:52] <Tobias92> The monodevelop 1.0 wont compile on my feisty box. Are there any deb packages available yet?
[17:53] <Seveas> Yanch0, it is safe
[17:53]  * grumpy_gramps bieb ok
[17:53] <Slart> taime1_: hmm.. ok.. well.. all I found was this forum-thread.. perhaps there is something useful there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=700675
[17:53] <Some_Person> Seveas: didnt work
[17:53] <bieb> grumpy_gramps did it run?
[17:53] <Seveas> Some_Person, what did you do to reinstall?
[17:53] <Some_Person> Seveas: sudo apt-get remove amsn tcl8.5 tk8.5 && sudo apt-get install amsn
[17:54] <taime1_> Slart:  cheers
[17:54] <jake2point0> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.28 but i have a higher version installed already.  how do i get the older version
[17:54] <Seveas> Some_Person, you might need to move your ~/.amsn out of the way
[17:54] <Yanch0> Seveas oki thanks - for a second i thought i would break ubuntu
[17:54] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the Gnome Quit dialog?
[17:54] <Seveas> Some_Person, which version of ubuntu do you use, what does 'apt-cache policy amsn' say?
[17:54] <erUSUL> Stupid^Kid: i'm sure that in the source tarball there is a sample config file
[17:55] <nikrud> Yanch0: the only issue will have is when you upgrade to the next version, you'll want to have ubuntu-desktop installed to make sure you get a good upgrade
[17:55] <Some_Person> Seveas: gutsy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60320/
[17:55] <Yanch0> ok thanks nikro
[17:55] <jake2point0> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.28 but i have a higher version installed already.  how do i get the older version
[17:55] <Yanch0> nikrud* will install it before i upgrade then
[17:55]  * grumpy_gramps bieb something happened it fetchet 1B in 1s then reported Reading package lists done
[17:55] <AldarHawk> I am having major issues with my wireless card (again).  I run a dmesg and get the error: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13).  the only problem I have is this used to work until recently.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[17:56] <Seveas> grumpy_gramps, don't abuse the /me command
[17:56] <nikrud> !gutsysources | grumpy_gramps (you don't have universe most likely)
[17:56] <ubotu> grumpy_gramps (you don't have universe most likely): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[17:56] <bieb> ok.. now run the apt-get install command again
[17:56] <Some_Person> Seveas: and moving my ~/.amsn folder didnt help
[17:56] <Stupid^Kid> erUSUL: yes, i  want the script used to start/stop/restart the deamon, maybe i can write it myself , but now i don't know howto
[17:56] <Seveas> Some_Person, which version of ubuntu do you use, what does 'apt-cache policy amsn' say?
[17:56] <Some_Person> Seveas: gutsy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60320/
[17:56] <jake2point0> haha i stumped all the linux gurus
[17:57] <Seveas> Some_Person, ah, you're using backports
[17:57] <keithclark> Why is it that when I share a folder through smb that it asks me for a password on a remote computer?  I tried the same one as I log in on on the hosting machine and it does not work
[17:57] <Seveas> not supported
[17:57] <Some_Person> Seveas: yes
[17:57] <nikrud> jake2point0: what was the question? You're tempting fate :)
[17:57] <jake2point0> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.28 but i have a higher version installed already.  how do i get the older version
[17:57] <nikrud> jake2point0: uninstall the current version, compile the 1.28
[17:57] <Seveas> and your sources.list has feisty in it still -- pastebin yout sources.list please
[17:58] <Some_Person> Seveas: and by the way, i want amsn with anti-aliased fonts, so the regular package wont work (anti-aliased fonts requires version compiled for tcl/tk8.5, which i believe that one is)
[17:58] <AldarHawk> ath0 is strange
[17:58]  * grumpy_gramps bieb it still reports that the package was not fount.  Btw why is seveas telling me not to abuse the /me command?
[17:58] <AldarHawk> remove and installed the module seven times to get it to actually work
[17:58] <t0rp> my ubuntu computer lost a connection to the internet after a restart, can anyone help me diagnose what's wrong?
[17:58] <AldarHawk> yeah tell me what dmesg says
[17:58] <AldarHawk> pastebin it
[17:58] <gRaCiOsO> what i need to do to return back to linux when im using windows xp on virtual box ???
[17:59] <bieb> because every message you send has ***grumpy_gramps
[17:59] <hischild> gRaCiOsO, hit the right ctrl and it should let go of windows.
[17:59] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: using Virtual Box? or VMware?
[18:00] <nikrud> gRaCiOsO: I'd try ctl-alt , see if that releases the mouse
[18:00] <jake2point0> nikrud ok i uninstalled it via synaptic package manager.  now how do i get ahold of 1.28
[18:00] <nikrud> gRaCiOsO: that's vmware-server, but might be the same
[18:00] <Seveas> Some_Person, gutsy doesn't even have tcl/tk 8.5
[18:00] <hischild> nikrud, thats for vmware in general ... but as long as he uses the right ctrl it should let go as well
[18:00] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: if you install the guest additions in VirtualBox then you wont have to "release" from the window
[18:00] <Seveas> Some_Person, you're way out of standard ubuntu practice there -- please don't count on support
[18:00] <hyw> waylandbill: congratulations! 1,1 worked!
[18:00] <Some_Person> Seveas: then why does this package depend on tcl8.5 and tk8.5 and where is it getting those packages from?
[18:01] <Seveas> Some_Person, probably backports as well
[18:01] <gRaCiOsO> bieb,  what is that?
[18:01] <hyw> Finally, after 2 days I installed ubuntu
[18:01] <nikrud> jake2point0: a sec, the ndiswrapper site ( ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net ) seems donw
[18:01] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: are you running VMWare? or Virtual Box?
[18:01] <hyw> waylandbill: thanks a bunch!
[18:01] <Some_Person> Seveas: i'
[18:01] <gRaCiOsO> hischild,  i tryied
[18:01] <hyw> and thanks everyone for helping
[18:01] <Some_Person> Seveas: i'll try using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649364
[18:02] <jake2point0> nikrud figures.  ill check it out
[18:02] <gRaCiOsO> bieb,  virtual box
[18:02] <nikrud> jake2point0: you can get there from here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/
[18:02] <jake2point0> nikrud am i pming you correctly ... not sure
[18:02] <waylandbill> hyw: excellent. I knew it grub was seeing a different order. My UUID was an incorrect guess, but didn't hurt... for now. Congrats.
[18:02] <bieb> ok.. to release from the windows VB, click the Right Ctrl button
[18:02] <nikrud> !register | jake2point0 (and pm'ing without asking first is considered bad manners)
[18:02] <ubotu> jake2point0 (and pm'ing without asking first is considered bad manners): By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:03] <hyw> waylandbill: thanks
[18:03] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: did that work?
[18:03] <jake2point0> nikrud i dont pm unless the public pms me first
[18:03] <gRaCiOsO> bieb,  yeah it works thanks a lot
[18:03] <gRaCiOsO> jeje
[18:04] <hyw> waylandbill:  there are 200 updates shall I install them all
[18:04] <waylandbill> hyw: seems kinda hackish to try each possibility until one worked, but can't argue with results. It was fun anyway. :-)
[18:04] <waylandbill> hyw: I don't see why not. Not much to lose at this point. :-D
[18:04] <hyw> waylandbill: I didnt expect it to be as easy as you typed it
[18:04] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: at the top of the VB window click Devices>Install Guest Options, then the mouse wont be locked into the window
[18:04] <hyw> waylandbill: I thought there were would be more to adjust and change lol
[18:05] <macd> denconf has a notification type called teletype that works as I expect it to, but there is no way to set this as the type when doing dpkg-reconfigure debconf, ideaS?
[18:05] <gRaCiOsO> bieb,  ok i will see it
[18:05] <gRaCiOsO> thanks
[18:05] <bieb> gRaCiOsO: np
[18:05] <sveakex> hello, i am having sounds issues on my laptop, can anybody help me?
[18:05] <waylandbill> hyw: now you know what to do when you buy a bigger hard drive.
[18:05] <waylandbill> hyw: or what you're in for I should say. hehe
[18:06] <t0rp> why is my internet not working?
[18:06] <PriceChild> I'm trying to get OpenPTC installed, anyone any experience with it?
[18:06] <t0rp> *im on irc on another computer
[18:06] <DeanJ> Hi guys, just a quickie, anyone know how to restore the ubuntu icons? I screwed mine up by messing about with them now they are all wrong sizes! ;_;
[18:06] <nikrud> macd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[18:06] <burken> anyone know when beta is here+
[18:07] <bieb> t0rp: because you forgot to pay the internet bill?
[18:07] <PriceChild> !hardy | burken
[18:07] <ubotu> burken: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:07] <Seveas> burken, when it's released
[18:07] <jake2point0> nikrud ive downloaded it.  looks like a zip file .  how do i giter going
[18:07] <macd> nikrud, yeah tried that, teletype is not in the list
[18:07] <t0rp> no the network works, Im on it on another computer
[18:07] <Some_Person> Seveas: dangit, i get the same error
[18:07] <nikrud> !compile | jake2point0
[18:07] <ubotu> jake2point0: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:07] <waylandbill> t0rp: could be any number of reasons. Is this ethernet, wireless? Has it worked before? LiveCD or hard drive install?
[18:07] <hyw> waylandbill: lol yeah lets just hope I wont confront another issue by tomorrow, I always have bad luck with ubuntu whenever I install it I'd face a problem wouldnt know how to fix it and am noob in linux then I'd just forget about ubuntu.. hopefully this time I will learn
[18:08] <simara> ubunto-br
[18:08] <DeanJ> does anyone know how i can revert my Human icons, i messed them up by replacing them with the wrong sized files
[18:08] <DeanJ> i was hoping i could d/l the originals and c&p them back to where they should be
[18:08] <t0rp> its wired it worked before the restart
[18:08] <waylandbill> hyw: get a book. I found it helps alot.
[18:08] <t0rp> i was messing around with non-working hibernate and standby stuff
[18:08] <burken> not released yet .((
[18:08] <Seveas> DeanJ, reinstall the theme package
[18:08] <DeanJ> thanks Seveas
[18:08] <bieb> !ubunto-br | simara
[18:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubunto-br - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:08] <DeanJ> good thinking
[18:08] <hyw> waylandbill: are there free pdfs online
[18:09] <t0rp> hold on im trying a live gutsy cd
[18:09] <Finnish> Hello
[18:09] <hyw> hi
[18:09] <bieb> hyw: help.ubuntu.com
[18:09] <Finnish> I've got a laptop with a fresh ubuntu gutsy 7.10-install
[18:09] <waylandbill> hyw: there's tons of info online. I find a book is nice for those times when you can't be online.
[18:09] <Finnish> Video card is
[18:09] <bluefoxx_> how do i reset my keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[18:10] <Finnish> ATI Radeon XPress 1100
[18:10] <Finnish> Ok
[18:10] <waylandbill> t0rp: the big thing is if you have an ip address. That's what I'd check first.
[18:10] <Finnish> With VESA, I can boot but ubuntu launches slowly
[18:10] <Finnish> So what to do now?
[18:10] <keithclark> How do you share a folder over the network?  I've tried NFS and it never shows up, and SMB asks for a password of which I have no idea what that is.
[18:10] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah that would be interesting, though it wont be pratical
[18:10] <hyw> bieb: thanks
[18:11] <bieb> np
[18:11] <bieb> hyw: like waylandbill suggested there are some good books out for Ubuntu, and dont need internet for them and you can read them on the train or what-not
[18:11] <waylandbill> hyw: you can skip the book, if you just simply learn quickly.  You may try linuxbasics.org if you're completely noob.
[18:12] <bieb> linuxbasics are good people.. thats for sure
[18:12] <hyw> waylandbill: yeah that would be helpful as well am a real linux noob
[18:13] <waylandbill> I find there are times I like to read a little and not be online. Doing everything at the computer is good way to get an RSI.
[18:13] <nikrud> macd: not sure, I've always mildly wondered where that was kept, looking for later
[18:13] <hyw> bieb: heh I barely get on trains
[18:13] <bieb> RSI?
[18:13] <hyw> bieb: no trains here, though one is on progress
[18:13] <macd> nikrud, yeah it doesnt exist in debconf.conf, and theres really no way to edit the flatfile debconf uses for its "database"
[18:13] <bieb> hyw: me either.. but was only analogy I came up with
[18:13] <waylandbill> bieb: repetitive stress injury
[18:14] <bieb> ahh
[18:14] <AldarHawk> okay new problem.  I have Ubuntu 7.10 and I am attempting to get the wireless working now that it is installed correctly.  I am doing a Static IP for the laptop with all the WEP encryption information.  I can ping anything internal to the network but when I attempt to ping externally it does not respond.  I attempted fixing the resolv.conf by forcing the nameservers but that is not working either.  any thoughts?
[18:14] <hyw> waylandbill: too many things to learn about actually, but it is a good idea to learn something and abandon microsoft
[18:15] <waylandbill> hyw: try the linuxbasics.org site. gives the fundamentals, which is very helpful.
[18:16] <waylandbill> AldarHawk: do you have the gateway set correctly and the routing?
[18:16] <t0rp> Ive tried the live cd and Im not getting an internet connection, ifconfig looks strange too
[18:16] <AldarHawk> yes gateway is set to the wireless router.
[18:16] <AldarHawk> I have hard coded in the name servers for openDNS which worked before all the ath_pci problems I have been having
[18:16] <Belisarivs> hi all
[18:17] <AldarHawk> restarted networking and dhcdbd
[18:17] <hyw> waylandbill: looks nice and organized
[18:17] <hyw> waylandbill: many in google as well
[18:18] <Genius314> I installed Firestarter, but when I run the firewall, it gives me the error "The device eth0 is not ready." I am using a wireless connection, but it doesn't show up in preferences for FS.
[18:18] <t0rp> o wait i switched the port which i connect to on my switch and it started working, worked automatically, hehe, i guess there wasnt a good connection on that port
[18:19] <salmander> bieb: 3ware which one?
[18:19] <hyw> waylandbill: thanks again for helping and I hope I was not a burden
[18:19] <waylandbill> t0rp: better than any alternative. :-D
[18:19] <waylandbill> hyw: it's snowing outside, so I'm indoors anyway.
[18:19] <Some_Person> Seveas: I figured it out. I uninstalled tcl/tk8.4 and tcl/tk8.5, and reinstalled amsn. now it works
[18:20] <waylandbill> AldarHawk: and the routing table looks okay? The outside world is listed to go through the gateway?
[18:20] <grumpy_gramps> hi all
[18:20] <bieb> salmander: you will have to look through and see which fits your needs, I think all the 3ware cards have good linux support
[18:21] <AldarHawk> yes
[18:21] <hyw> waylandbill: heh it only rained for 1 week this winter in here
[18:21] <AldarHawk> I will look at this later...to busy now :(
[18:21] <salmander> bieb I though they had software raid cards mostly
[18:21] <tkooda> can anyone tell me if Ubuntu will run on a "Dell Precision M2300"??
[18:21] <bieb> salmander, I believe they are hardware raid
[18:22] <waylandbill> AldarHawk: you may try dig and/or tracert later to see if you even can make it out to the nameservers.
[18:22] <DRebellion> tkooda, what are the specs?
[18:22] <grumpy_gramps> I was booted for abuse of the /me command.  I didn't know and I apologize.  Thanks for the help from Bieb and Ubotu.  It solved my problem.
[18:22] <salmander> 9650SE ?
[18:22] <bieb> grumpy_gramps: good deal
[18:23] <bluefoxx> how do i reset my keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[18:23] <largos> I'm having some problems with the fonts displayed by kpdf an evince, but only for some pdfs (it seems to be a subset of pdfs created on Windows that cause problems.)  The fonts are readable, but the characters are crammed very close together.  Example: http://ciscavate.org/data/evince.png
[18:24] <keithclark> Is there a network specific irc channel?
[18:24] <tkooda> DRebellion, http://laptoping.com/dell-precision-m2300.html .  (I'm confident I can get the NVIDIA graphics, intel 4965 wifi, and CD drive going.  dunno about hybernate, audio, etc??)
[18:24] <waylandbill> largos: looks like a font you don't have on your system was used in the pdf and not included in the pdf.
[18:24] <largos> waylandbill: that was my first thought too, but the same doc looks fine in Emacs with doc-view mode
[18:24] <bieb> OT:  http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/20/stingray/index.html
[18:25] <DRebellion> !hcl (you may want to check here) | tkooda
[18:25] <tkooda> DRebellion, http://tinyurl.com/35wz8d <-- Dell Precision M2300 specs from dell.com
[18:25] <sveakex> can somebody please help me with my sound? the laptop speakers won't mute when i plug in my headphone
[18:25] <DRebellion> !hcl | tkooda
[18:25] <ubotu> tkooda: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[18:25] <bluefoxx> ops can you ban my other nick bluefoxx_ please? it keeps ghosting itself <<
[18:25] <largos> waylandbill: emacs version: http://ciscavate.org/data/emacs.png
[18:25] <waylandbill> largos: kpdf and emacs may be substituting with different fonts from the same family
[18:26] <largos> waylandbill: ah..
[18:26] <tkooda> DRebellion, yah, I couldn't find any mention of the "Dell Precision M2300" in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ ?
[18:26] <waylandbill> largos: if the font can't be found, the specification I think is just to find another font in the same family.
[18:27] <DRebellion> tkooda, try the individual hardware pieces
[18:27] <computer13137> I have a Ubuntu related question.  If I wanted to run Ubuntu 7.10 on a server, what is the upper limit for how much ram it can support?
[18:27] <Seveas> computer13137, depends on whether you use the 32bot or 64bit version
[18:27] <combat> computer13137, depends on 32 or 64 bit
[18:27] <computer13137> 64-bit.
[18:27] <crshman> hi all, i have a SW raid 5 with 8 SATA disks that's rebuilding right now but it's only going at 23MB/s seems a little slow....is that about right?
[18:27] <combat> computer13137, so its almost unlimited :D
[18:27] <largos> waylandbill: do you know if there are any packages I could try installing to see if they may provide a better font match?
[18:27] <Seveas> computer13137, that supports more than fits in the most bulky server :)
[18:27] <computer13137> Combat: What is it precisely?
[18:27] <computer13137> :P
[18:28] <computer13137> I was thinking about doing 8GB.
[18:28] <combat> computer13137, yes that works
[18:28] <DRebellion> computer13137, 8gb is nothing
[18:28] <computer13137> lol, cool. ;)
[18:28] <waylandbill> largos: if you knew the font and had a copy of it, you could install it and all would be good. Authors really should embed the font if it's not of a small, standard set, but they don't :)
[18:28] <bieb> combat: what is the limit for 32bit ubuntu?
[18:28] <computer13137> I might be able to get a cheap colo.
[18:28] <computer13137> So I'm looking at building a 4U rack.
[18:28] <combat> bieb, 4GB
[18:28] <bieb> ok
[18:28] <computer13137> 2TB of space, 8GB of Ram. :)
[18:28] <computer13137> Quad core AMD
[18:28] <waylandbill> largos: you could try the ms tt fonts if you don't mind non-free software.
[18:28] <bieb> 2tb? thats all?
[18:29] <computer13137> That's plenty. :P
[18:29] <Seveas> computer13137, that's not mush for a 4u
[18:29] <bieb> LOL
[18:29] <computer13137> :P
[18:29] <computer13137> I'm not gonna be a fucking web host.
[18:29] <computer13137> lol
[18:29] <Seveas> you could fit that in 2
[18:29] <computer13137> Why do I need multi terabytes? :P
[18:29] <computer13137> wtf
[18:29] <bieb> thats only 2 - 1tb drives
[18:29] <computer13137> Anyway...
[18:29] <largos> waylandbill: yeah, just found out that I don't have msttcorefonts installed -- I'll try that
[18:29] <Daviey> OT?
[18:29] <largos> waylandbill: thanks!
[18:29] <computer13137> Huh?
[18:29] <computer13137> ...huh?
[18:29] <jastiv> lori@lori-desktop:/usr/local/src/gnash$ ./configure
[18:29] <jastiv> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[18:29] <computer13137> Why do I keep getting booted?
[18:29] <Seveas> computer13137, don't drop the F bomb again
[18:29] <recon> computer13137: your language.
[18:29] <digin4> computer13137, cuz you are swearing
[18:29] <computer13137> Oh. :P Sorry. :P
[18:30] <combat> 64bit supports 16384 petabytes, just for your info
[18:30] <combat> ^^
[18:30] <bieb> computer13137: porn, Mp3z, vidz
[18:30] <computer13137> Cool combat.
[18:30] <computer13137> :P
[18:30] <jastiv> I don't understand why it says that, there is a configure in the directory
[18:30] <AldarHawk> okay I am back now.
[18:30] <computer13137> Bieb, I have no intention of running a piracy ring. :P
[18:30] <computer13137> I just want a few game servers, a little HTTP, and some nicely impressive specs.
[18:30] <combat> computer13137, why not, but involve me :P
[18:30] <computer13137> ;)
[18:30] <bieb> not a piracy ring, personal use :D
[18:31] <computer13137> lol that's stupid.
[18:31] <IcemanV9> jastiv: empty .configure file?
[18:31] <computer13137> That's what my LAN server does.
[18:31] <computer13137> :P
[18:31] <Seveas> computer13137, combat: offtopic talk elsewhere please
[18:31] <waylandbill> did someone say porn? ;)
[18:31] <h00k_> rofl
[18:31] <sveakex> hehe
[18:31] <grumpy_gramps> Is there a device manager somewhere in ubuntu 7.10 that actually allows you to manage devices?
[18:31] <AldarHawk> I had the same setup before this all crashed.  Anyone able to help me out?   I have set up my system static in interfaces with the essid and key all set up.  in resolv.conf I have hardcoded in external name servers (openDNS name servers) and now I cannot ping anything external to my network.  Any thoughts on fixing this?
[18:31] <ey-nonymous> =/  I have a newbie question: I just installed and formatted an external drive, but the permissions say only root can access....but the login screen won't let root log in....help with the command after 'su'?
[18:32] <Seveas> grumpy_gramps, what do you want to manage about them?
[18:32] <computer13137> Combat, can you get Pms? :P
[18:32] <h00k_> grumpy_gramps: what to manage about them?
[18:32] <Seveas> !root | ey-nonymous
[18:32] <ubotu> ey-nonymous: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:32] <h00k_> Seveas: you beat me ;)
[18:32] <jastiv> lori@lori-desktop:/usr/local/src/gnash$ empty .configure file
[18:32] <jastiv> bash: empty: command not found
[18:32]  * ApOgEE- busan
[18:32] <recon> The repeat on my keyboard (you know, when you hold down a keyboard key, it works as if you keep pressing it rapidly) isn't working. Preferences>keyboard isn't working, either, I get "Error activating XKB configuration." I also get a choice between Gnome and X keyboard configurations at start of session, even though I didn't edit the keyboard config.
[18:32] <computer13137> hmm
[18:32] <computer13137> Vmware isn't liking Ubuntu today.
[18:32] <computer13137> I can't get the installer to start.
[18:32] <computer13137> I wanted to test something with virtualbox :P
[18:32] <Seveas> recon, that could be gnome-settings-daemon crashing or dbus failing
[18:32] <computer13137> Within VMware.
[18:32] <computer13137> :)
[18:33] <IcemanV9> jastiv: i meant is it the file empty? since you cannot "./configure"
[18:33] <computer13137> Combat?
[18:33] <combat> computer13137, ?
[18:33] <computer13137> Can you get pms? :P
[18:33] <recon> Seveas: gnome-settings-daemon is up, so I'm guessing it's dbus.
[18:33] <combat> computer13137, i just answered
[18:33] <ey-nonymous> =/  Well, Any ideas on how to set-up the drive for all user access?
[18:33] <computer13137> My PM?  No you didn't...
[18:34] <largos> waylandbill: that worked like a charm :)
[18:34] <recon> Seveas: even odder, once I hit it, it seemed to ignore the crash and now my keyboard's working normally. huh.
[18:34] <waylandbill> largos: good deal.
[18:34] <grumpy_gramps> Seveas, functions similar to the system properties >hardware> device manager in win XP
[18:34] <combat> computer13137, hmm thats weird, i received your message and answered now 10 times
[18:35] <Seveas> grumpy_gramps, ubuntu isn't windows xp. You don't need to fiddle with drivers in ubuntu
[18:35] <genii> !register | combat
[18:35] <ubotu> combat: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:35] <grumpy_gramps> Seveas, OK that sounds reasonable
[18:36] <sveakex> can anybody help me with my sound?
[18:36] <waylandbill> grumpy_gramps: with a generic kernel like ubuntu's usually a device just works if it is supported. Thankfully.
[18:36] <combat> ah thx genii
[18:36] <waylandbill> grumpy_gramps: I don't miss the stacks of driver CD's from XP days. :-D
[18:37] <IcemanV9> jastiv: are you trying to compile gnash? have you try repo for gnash?
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> guys i can't use apt-get it said
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:37] <grumpy_gramps> waylandbill thanks
[18:37] <genii> combat: np
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> what should i do
[18:37] <mats_> whats SELinux?
[18:37] <Seveas> alwrwr2003, close all package managers and update managers
[18:37] <h00k_> alwrwr2003: do you have anything else being installed or Synaptics opened?
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> i'm not running anything
[18:37] <alwrwr2003> no
[18:37] <Andrew12> Hello, i'mma mac
[18:37] <AldarHawk> I had the same setup before this all crashed.  Anyone able to help me out?   I have set up my system static in interfaces with the essid and key all set up.  in resolv.conf I have hardcoded in external name servers (openDNS name servers) and now I cannot ping anything external to my network.  Any thoughts on fixing this?
[18:38] <grumpy_gramps> My next issue it to get my dlink wireless netword w/usb wireless adapter working but maybe I should save that for another session.
[18:38] <IcemanV9> alwrwr2003: check another terminals with apt-get or aptitude running
[18:38] <Seveas> mats_, security enhanced linux, modifications that give you mandatory access control and restrictions
[18:38] <bieb> alwrwr2003: nothing at all open other than IRC?
[18:38] <Nasra> hello ppls...how are you ..
[18:38] <alwrwr2003> yeah
[18:38] <Seveas> Nasra, pastebin the output of ps aux
[18:38] <waylandbill> alwrwr2003: if you aren't using an apt program you can 'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock' in a terminal.
[18:38] <keithclark> ok, I'll try later....
[18:39] <Nasra> Seveas ...I am new here what you mean?
[18:39] <waylandbill> alwrwr2003: but be sure you aren't running in the background like a terminal or anything
[18:39] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | alwrwr2003
[18:39] <ubotu> alwrwr2003: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:39] <Seveas> Nasra, sorry, I meant someone else
[18:39] <sveakex> hey, can anybody please help me with my sound?
[18:39] <Nasra> gotcha...
[18:39] <alwrwr2003> thank u all it's worked
[18:40] <alwrwr2003> yeah i'm sure there is nothing running on background
[18:40] <mats_> Seveas is SE any good?
[18:40] <alwrwr2003> btw how can i know the processes that running?
[18:40] <Seveas> alwrwr2003, ps aux
[18:40] <alwrwr2003> in the background
[18:40] <alwrwr2003> thx :)
[18:40] <waylandbill> alwrwr2003: ps in a terminal or System-Admin-System Monitor
[18:40] <rebelThor_> hey, i'm still having no sound, using pulseaudio on hardy with 2.6.24-12-generic (completely updated). Anyone willing to give some debug tips?
[18:40] <Seveas> mats_, it's supposed to be. I've grown to hate it due to the crappy default settings in CentOS (I'm forced to use centos at work :))
[18:40] <Belisarivs> I'm back. Something froze my screen. Could use Magic key, though.
[18:41] <rebelThor_> (worked on 2.6.24.11)
[18:41] <rafael__> hello
[18:41] <Nasra> I am very happy with ubuntu....so far so good...now my question is this:
[18:41] <fabouney> I recently installed flex build beta 3 and eclipse 3.3.2, when i create a new flex project, i have a error message "Beta expired" ... i've installed flex builder today and eclipse too ... :(
[18:41] <Nasra> is there live cd for instructions on how to use it somewhere around here?
[18:41] <Nasra> thanks
[18:41] <waylandbill> Nasra: where to send the check? :)
[18:42] <Nasra> just give a call ....
[18:42] <WhipsMcGee> I'm trying to get a program called html2ps working, would someone be willing to take a look at the documentation for it and see if they can help me get it working?
[18:42] <Nasra> through skype...
[18:42] <Nasra> waylandbill...
[18:42] <waylandbill> Nasra: System-Help and Support is a good place to start.
[18:43] <Nasra> need a live cd for instructions oh now to use ubuntu with commands....etc...
[18:43] <Nasra> oh yeap?
[18:44] <xomp> finally, I have internet lol
[18:44] <Nasra> system-help and support huh?
[18:44] <xomp> rwycuff, you still around bud?
[18:44] <gnuskool> g'day
[18:45] <jastiv> no, configure.ac has stuff in it, Yes, I am trying to compile gnash.
[18:45] <waylandbill> Nasra: http://help.ubuntu.com is a good place too. You may even find a good ubuntu book helps out too
[18:45] <Seveas> jastiv, ./autogen.sh
[18:45] <Seveas> jastiv, but why not install gnash from a package?
[18:45] <Nasra> waylandbill..how about ubuntu for dummies.?
[18:45] <greencookie> ~hello
[18:46] <greencookie> !hi
[18:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:46] <waylandbill> Nasra: I've never read it, but I've been told it's okay.
[18:46] <Ben____> How OT this is I don't know, but I understand you basically can't run linux like Ubuntu in VirtualPC. Is there a (free) alternative that will?
[18:46] <Nasra> waylandbill...since I am new to this ubuntu world.....I am very happy so far...wanna learn more....thats all..
[18:47] <Seveas> Ben____, vmware server, virtualbox
[18:47] <greencookie> !joke
[18:47] <ubotu> You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.
[18:47] <WhipsMcGee> I need to install a package for inline images, either ImageMagick, pbmplus, or netpbm.  is there an apt-get for any of these?
[18:47] <waylandbill> Nasra: if you're new to linux altogether, I like to recommend http://linuxbasics.org .. it starts from the very beginning.
[18:47] <Seveas> WhipsMcGee, all of them
[18:47] <Nasra> waylandbill...thanks alot....I am going over right .....
[18:47] <jastiv> I did, I heard they fixed some things in the cvs version.
[18:47] <IcemanV9> greencookie: please /msg ubotu ... and don't abuse it as well. :-)
[18:48] <rwycuff> xomp: will be here for atleast another 3 hours
[18:48] <Seveas> !universe | WhipsMcGee you might need this
[18:48] <WhipsMcGee> Seveas: like an apt-get install ?
[18:48] <ubotu> WhipsMcGee you might need this: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:48] <xomp> rwycuff, lol sorry to hear that, and glad at the same time :P I got my cat5 connection working and a fresh install of gutsy, thinking of trying the wireless soon heh
[18:48] <Ben____> Seveas: thanks a lot. Is there one you would recommend, or one that is known to be particularly good or has particularly well documented implementations?
[18:49] <Seveas> Ben____, I'd recommend vmware server
[18:49] <dep> WhipsMcGee: Use the search function in Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager) to look for packages. Searching for any of the 3 that you mentioned will bring up the required package
[18:49] <Ben____> Seveas: That isn't server emulation only then presumably
[18:49] <WhipsMcGee> dep: cool, thanks
[18:49] <Seveas> Ben____, correct, it's just the product name of the vmware version that costs no money
[18:49] <rwycuff> xomp:alright try the network gui in ubuntu and dont do roaming just set profile with your ssid and see what happens
[18:49] <Ben____> Seveas: Ah, I see. Thanks a lot!
[18:50] <Finnish> I still need some help with ATI-drivers and my laptop! Please, someone?
[18:50] <Finnish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60325/
[18:50] <Finnish> My card is ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
[18:50] <rwycuff> xomp:and its not bad being here for 3 more hours as much as it is working with active directory
[18:50] <xomp> rwycuff, ok, let me take a screenshot of what it looks like when I click the network icon so you can get an idea of what I have showing.
[18:51] <xomp> rwycuff, lol, I am familiar with active directory :)
[18:51] <Nasra> waylandbill: so far I am doing email, using xchat, listening to music...just through automatix, and easyubuntu, etc...what you think?
[18:51] <rwycuff> xomp: but are you familiar with active directory working with mail server on linux
[18:51] <Seveas> Nasra, automatix is crap
[18:51] <Seveas> !automatix | Nasra
[18:51] <ubotu> Nasra: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:51] <Nasra> really?
[18:51] <SliMM> how do i create an icon pack?
[18:51] <dep> Finnish:  XKB is x keyboard, the message you posted indicated there is a problem with the keyboard setup, not your graphics card
[18:52] <Nasra> I am new did not know...
[18:52] <Seveas> Nasra, yes, it's notorious for breaking systems
[18:52] <Nasra> so what you recommend?
[18:52] <Seveas> Nasra, remove it
[18:52] <Nasra> oh chit lol..
[18:52] <Parsec300> Finnish, I installed it on my neighbours laptop last week with that card and I got it to work
[18:52] <Nasra> oh my god....
[18:52] <xomp> rwycuff, there's the brutus mail daemon that will work with exchange 2000 on up. The domain I used to admin was all exchange 5.5 so we were SOL until upgrading heh.
[18:52] <waylandbill> Nasra: ooh.. I don't recommend automatix or easyubuntu. Better to learn to do what they do yourself.
[18:52] <Finnish> Hmmm
[18:53] <xomp> rwycuff, you're wanting to run active directory from linux?
[18:53] <Finnish> How I can give you info about my drivers or xconf?
[18:53] <hischild> Nasra, not only is it better, it is still very easy to learn what they do and we're willing to give you step by step instructions if you need them
[18:53] <Nasra> how do I remove it in linux...(don't know much though)...
[18:53] <IcemanV9> Nasra: use apt-get or aptitude to install or remove any application
[18:53] <Nasra> ok
[18:53] <Finnish> Because I can't boot with ATI drivers, only VESA
[18:53] <Seveas> Nasra, sudo dpkg -P automatix
[18:53] <ere4si> !paste | Finnish
[18:53] <Nasra> ok...
[18:53] <ubotu> Finnish: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:54] <Finnish> Ok, I know where to paste
[18:54] <rwycuff> xomp: No that would be horrible now wouldnt it
[18:54] <rwycuff> i am trying to use 2003 and active dir for back end auth for qmail-ldap on a linux server
[18:54] <Nasra> guys what do you recommedn in place of automatic/easyubuntu....etc?
[18:54] <dep> Finnish: could you post your xorg.conf?
[18:55] <xomp> rwycuff, I was never able to do it hah, thought maybe someone else had :) I always RDP to work on my domain controllers from linux.
[18:55] <wubrgame1> hey guys, quick question, i just did a fresh command-line install, and my ifconfig doesn't show any interfaces other than lo, what should i do to bring up eth0 ?
[18:55] <Finnish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60328/
[18:55] <Armagidon> please help ! What is WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 ?
[18:55] <waylandbill> Nasra: you can find info to do what those do on help.ubuntu.com, the forums or irc.
[18:55] <hischild> wubrgame1, if you're on a dhcp enabled network, sudo dhclient should bring up the default interface
[18:55] <Nasra> ok
[18:56] <Nasra> letme remove it then....
[18:56] <Nasra> someone mentioned ----> sudo dpkg -P automatix
[18:56] <rwycuff> xomp:unfortunatly im linux/unix admin here and no one is wanting to go in other directions so i gotta make it work some how
[18:56] <dep> Finnish: You're missing large configuration sections in your xorg.conf file. I'd highly recommend starting from scratch by executing 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: did you already install automatix?
[18:57] <Nasra> yes
[18:57] <Nasra> now what?
[18:57] <waylandbill> Nasra: while those scripts where make with good intentions, their authors don't maintain the packages in the repository, so they can't anticipate changes.
[18:57]  * IndyGunFreak sighs
[18:57] <wubrgame1> anybody ?
[18:57] <Nasra> ok
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: that wasn't very smart.
[18:57] <Armagidon> please help ! What is WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 ?
[18:57] <IcemanV9> Nasra: like i said earlier, use apt-get, aptitude OR synaptic package manager (gui-based)
[18:57] <hischild> wubrgame1, i gave you an answer
[18:57] <Nasra> I am new..
[18:57] <xomp> rwycuff, that stinks man :(
[18:57] <Nasra> what can you expect?
[18:57] <wubrgame1> how do i install eth0 ? or bring it into existance ? it's not in my /etc/network/interfaces file either
[18:57] <Finnish> And how to get it done with xconf?
[18:57] <Nasra> just learnt about this irc today...
[18:57] <Nasra> lol....
[18:57] <Finnish> I mean from scratch?
[18:58] <dep> Finnish: could you rephrase your question? I'm not sure what you mean
[18:58] <wubrgame1> oh, i didn't configure the network in the installer
[18:58] <Finnish> Sorry
[18:58] <xomp> rwycuff, http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7596/screenshotpo0.png is an image of what it looks like when I click the network icon :)
[18:58] <wubrgame1> i forgot to say that
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: it might be easier to just do a clean install.
[18:58] <Nasra> so what do I get instead of automatix?
[18:58] <Finnish> If i configure it from scratch, should it be ok?
[18:58] <Nasra> good advice..
[18:58] <rwycuff> xomp:hey i made linux p2v work this shouldnt be too hard just over looking something
[18:58] <rwycuff> i can get linux ldap client to index everything just not able to get qmail service to do it
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: if you don't, its just gonna hose you when you get an update.
[18:58] <hischild> wubrgame1, i shall say this again to you: If you are on a wired network that does have dhcp, you can type "sudo dhclient" and it will bring up your network interface.
[18:58] <Finnish> Just go through it?
[18:59] <Nasra> so how do I write the ubuntu on top?
[18:59] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: is this a fairly new install,t hat you ahve now?
[18:59] <dep> Finnish: the command I mentioned before will recreate your xorg.conf file in a way that should work
[18:59] <Nasra> for fresh install..
[18:59] <Nasra> etc..
[18:59] <wubrgame1> not working
[18:59] <waylandbill> Nasra: don't worry about it, it's not all your fault. Their websites didn't have a disclaimer about not being officially supported or anything.
[18:59] <rebelThor_> hey, does sound work in 2.6.24-12-generic ?!
[18:59] <Nasra> yes is fairly new install
[18:59] <dep> Finnish: it may not use the specific driver you want if you intend to use a binary driver, but we can work on that after we get x working again
[18:59] <xomp> rwycuff, anyone that can get anything to work cross platform like that has my respect :D
[18:59] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: if its fairly new, i'd just say goa head and start over, otherwise, you're gonna have a ton of settings, options, and your desktop tweaked just how you want it, and then it will happen.
[19:00] <Nasra> just remember my nick....guys have to start allover again.... I am going for a fresh instal....
[19:00] <Nasra> see you later...
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> brb.
[19:00] <Nasra> lol....it took me a long time to get this running....
[19:00] <Nasra> because all the updates....
[19:00] <Nasra> etc...
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: are you using the live CD?
[19:00] <wubrgame1> ooh, thanks ! one more issue, the wireless card is showing up as an eth device
[19:00] <rwycuff> xomp:right on
[19:00] <Finnish> I typed sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:00] <Nasra> yes
[19:00] <rwycuff> xomp:your image wont load for me
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: well, youc an come here on the live CD(assuming your internet connection is picked up)
[19:01] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, probably imageshack problems :(
[19:01] <Finnish> It says dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[19:01] <IcemanV9> Nasra: use alternative CD for a quick install
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: what version of ubuntu are you installing?
[19:01] <Nasra> ok
[19:01] <Nasra> 7.10
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[19:01] <Nasra> is it good?
[19:01] <dep> Finnish: sorry about that, it should be 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: the alternate install is a good suggestion, but its totally text based, so it scares some newbs, i personally prefer it
[19:01] <wubrgame1> oops. it's working ! yay !
[19:01] <Nasra> or should I go for 6.06
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: yes, it is..
[19:01] <backgen> hey guys i'm looking to install a torrent client for unbuntu linux, do you guys have any recommendations?
[19:02] <waylandbill> is it good? would we be here if it wasn't? ;-)
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: no, 7.10 is where you want to be
[19:02] <Nasra> ok
[19:02] <Nasra> so I am going for it....
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: start the live CD
[19:02] <roland> hello all
[19:02] <Nasra> just gonna install it on top
[19:02] <Finnish> OK!
[19:02] <backgen> *unbuntu gibbon sorry
[19:02] <Finnish> Autodetect?
[19:02] <Finnish> Or not?
[19:02] <rwycuff> xomp:dont you have a dynamic dns and say a working linux box to throw it on
[19:02] <ere4si> backgen: I use rtorrent
[19:02] <xomp> rwycuff, basically, when I click the network icon my options are "Connect to other wireless networks" > "Create new wireless network" > "Manual configuration"
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: and when you get it open, presuming you can get online... open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get install xchat".. then xchat will be in the internet menu, and come here if you have a problem
[19:02] <dep> Finnish: yeah, autodetect
[19:02] <roland>  could any1 help me! whenever i try to open any of my applications i get a "DCOP communication error" wht might b the cause of tht! how can i fix it!
[19:03] <nagarajan> how do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu 7.10??
[19:03] <Finnish> And ATI?
[19:03] <xomp> rwycuff, I've only this one linux box for now lol
[19:03] <Nasra> thanks IndyGunFreak....and everybody else....
[19:03] <IndyGunFreak> !res | nagappan
[19:03] <ubotu> nagappan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:03] <dep> Finnish yes
[19:03] <Nasra> bye for now...
[19:03] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[19:03] <backgen> ere4si: ok and i guess you like it? i was thinking of Azureus but a lot of people say that it's pretty heavy and there are better ones out there for Linux
[19:03] <Finnish> Use kernel frame...?
[19:03] <nagappan> IndyGunFreak, ?
[19:03] <Nasra> so far I am happy with ubuntu distro...
[19:04] <dep> Finnish: actually, ctrl-c out of that and lets just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg', that will make the right choices
[19:04] <rwycuff> xomp:laptop not good place to start with linux takes lot to get it runing fi everything deosnt work just outta the box
[19:04] <IndyGunFreak> nagappan: read it, it tells you how to fix resolution problems
[19:04] <ere4si> backgen: I use rtorrent because it is the lightest I've found - it is cli - but controlled from a text file
[19:04] <roland>  could any1 help with a "DCOP communication error" wht might b the cause of tht! how can i fix it!
[19:04] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, that's me in a nutshell, always take the hard road first haha
[19:04] <backgen> ere4si: oh...is it easy to use though?
[19:04] <nagappan> IndyGunFreak, I don't have any X resolution issues with Ubuntu :)
[19:05] <ere4si> backgen: takes a little time to learn - but there is a chat for it - one file to control settings
[19:05] <Thkaal> Hello again everyone.  your friendly neighborhood /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit is back
[19:05] <rwycuff> xomp:well if you wanna take hard road go try gentooo linux
[19:06] <xomp> haha
[19:06] <xomp> rwycuff, I had gentoox installed on my xbox way back when heh
[19:06] <ere4si> backgen: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki - it is in the repos
[19:07] <jake2point0> i finally got my wireless card to list under ndiswrapper -l but how do i connect to my unsecured wireless network?
[19:07] <xomp> seems like everyone is having wireless issues today hah
[19:07] <cameodemon> any people familiar with ati cards? my second monitor is kinda wobbly even at the correct resolution
[19:07] <MasterShrak> jake2point0 do: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <network name>
[19:07] <rwycuff> xomp:not the same go look at the old install guide to it youu will see what i mean
[19:07] <backgen> ere4si: ok thanks!
[19:07] <ere4si> :)
[19:07] <Thkaal> Anyone have any other hints on how to deal with sbin/modprobe errors?  i've done the fix for the raid controllers, and that didn't help.
[19:07] <MasterShrak> jake2point0 then grab an ip by: sudo dhclient3 wlan0   (this is all assumming that your interface name is wlan0)
[19:08] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, back when I was running slackware 8 I think, gentoo came out and you basically have to build every aspect of the OS. It was a real turn off for me.
[19:09] <copyleftdev> there are prebuilt distros of gentoo
[19:09] <jake2point0> my essid is called F-3 Computers and when i typed in  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid F-3 Computers it said iwconfig: unknown command "Computers"
[19:09] <roland> any1 ev er faced a DCOP error ?
[19:09] <ere4si> copyleftdev: isn't sabyon one?
[19:10] <copyleftdev> yup
[19:10] <nikrud> jake2point0: put the name in quotes
[19:10] <xomp> rwycuff, if it would help, here is the output of my "ifconfig" http://pastebin.com/mc7439fe
[19:10] <hischild> !u | roland
[19:10] <ubotu> roland: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[19:10] <nikrud> roland: dcop is kde, you will probably have better luck in #kubuntu
[19:10]  * Rev667 returns to linux after a long break, and installed ubuntu... and has issues
[19:11] <roland> heh
[19:11] <roland> nikrud,  thanks
[19:11] <jake2point0> i think that did it
[19:11] <MasterShrak> jake2point0 make sure you grab an ip address too with the dhclient3 command
[19:11] <nikrud> jake2point0: using ubuntu, rather than k or xubuntu?
[19:12] <jake2point0> ok now for the real issue..  what ubuntu package allows me to launch it and view all available wireless access points and able to connect to them
[19:12] <hischild> jake2point0, wifi-radar?
[19:12] <nikrud> jake2point0: you should have a couple computers on the task bar, click it
[19:12] <jake2point0> dude ubuntu rocks with that new crud that makes your vid card rock the windows graphics better looking than VISTA
[19:13] <xomp> compiz-fusion
[19:13] <Rev667> eye-candy is nice
[19:13] <styrman> any codecs that play .rm files for movie player?
[19:13] <IcemanV9> jake2point0: nm-applet (installed by default) have the view of all available wifi
[19:13] <MasterShrak> styrman i think vlc should play it
[19:13] <jake2point0> nikrud yes it lists it but it didnt do anything before i had to type in that long command to get on the network first
[19:13] <ar0nic> styrman google
[19:14] <ar0nic> but vlc and mplayer both should have no problem doing this.
[19:14] <MasterShrak> !real | styrman
[19:14] <ubotu> styrman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:14] <nikrud> jake2point0: hm. Worked well here, never used iw* stuff myself
[19:14] <Rev667> i broke the sound on my ubuntu
[19:14] <KalEl> does aptitude know what apt has done, and vice versa?
[19:14] <nikrud> KalEl: yes
[19:14] <MasterShrak> KalEl yes
[19:14] <tonyyarusso> KalEl: kind of.  It knows some things, but not all.
[19:14] <Rev667> easy to do, still the conflicts, oss vs alsa :(
[19:14] <jake2point0> i had to type in this sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "F-3 Computers"
[19:14] <jake2point0> jake@jake-desktop:~$ sudo dhclient3 wlan0
[19:15] <KalEl> thanks a lot... that clears one of my confusion about aptitude
[19:15] <jake2point0> why didnt the built in tool show the stupid access points... now its working in the tool but before it didnt.  silly
[19:15] <Thkaal> Any hints on how to handle the sbin/modprobe abnormal exit?
[19:16] <IcemanV9> KalEl: if you might want to take a look at /var/log/aptitude, it has some nice info
[19:16] <nikrud> jake2point0: I've had it take a minute or two to come up
[19:16] <chieh> hello, if i write a program and i would like people using ubuntu to install it directly with the ubuntu installer, how do i go about doing that?
[19:17] <ltcabral> hm... hello. i installed realplayer and it didnt add the comand to bash... so when i run realplay it says command not found... how can i add it?
[19:17] <MasterShrak> ltcabral type: whereis realplay
[19:17] <jake2point0> well im very very lucky to get my Trendnet 423PI PCI wireless card to work. very lucky indeed.
[19:18] <KalEl> IcemanV9, thanks
[19:18] <MasterShrak> ltcabral then either refer to it by its absolute location, or symlink it to /usr/bin/realplay
[19:18] <nikrud> chieh: you'd have to learn packaging, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:18] <ltcabral> MasterShrak its in ~/RealPlay
[19:18] <jake2point0> its fun to get non supported hardware working
[19:18] <bastid_raZor> ltcabral; you could cp realplay to /usr/bin/
[19:18] <chieh> thank you for the guide, i'll read through them
[19:18] <ltcabral> okay ill try that
[19:18] <IcemanV9> ltcabral: type . .bashrc in the terminal and try the command again
[19:18] <MasterShrak> ltcabral i would cd into ~/RealPlay   then do: sudo ln -s realplay /usr/bin/realplay
[19:19] <chieh> a quick question which i don't understand
[19:19] <chieh> is there a central place we upload our program to , and then everybody downloads from that central location?
[19:19] <chieh> or we have to some how provide a server , or a link location for all the package downloaded?
[19:20] <MasterShrak> chieh sourceforge may be a good option\
[19:20] <nikrud> chieh: you'd have to convince the motu's to carry it. There's things called personal package archives on launchpad.net , you can look for guides there
[19:20] <ritalin> lawl
[19:20] <rym> I was messing around with xserv-org earlier today cause i had resolution issues
[19:20] <ltcabral> MasterShrak: didnt work
[19:20] <rym> but now when i boot ubuntu gnome doesnt load
[19:20] <rym> it keeps looping for a while and then it stops the gnome display manager
[19:20] <ltcabral>  MasterShrak: do i have to reload or something?
[19:20] <MagicDuck> what are the keys to switch between linux and windows when using rdesktop, alt+tab does not work...
[19:20] <mokkpr01> Hi.. where can i get the list of packages that come with ubuntu.. i mean wubi n things like that..
[19:21] <chieh> oh so currently motu is hosting all the packages?
[19:21] <graft> rym: obviously you messed up your xorg settings, why not roll it back to the previous version?
[19:21] <chieh> is there a link to them to check them out?
[19:21] <rym> how would i do that
[19:21] <h00k_> mokkpr01: check out Synaptec
[19:21] <graft> rym: you did save a backup of your xorg.conf before messing around with it, right?
[19:21] <logi2> hey all, i am putting together an ubuntu system to use as a media center of sorts, and am having issues with the video card, i am replacing an agp nvidia with a newer agp nvidia card (128 mb), tried putting in the new one to no avail, now it wont boot with any of the cards i have
[19:21] <rym> i tried dpkg-reconfigure in recovery mode
[19:21] <rym> graft: *cough*
[19:21] <graft> rym: *slap* well, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg SHOULD restore it
[19:22] <nikrud> chieh: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas . And #ubuntu-motu is the place to ask motu's stuff. But putting your stuff in the actual ubuntu archive? A serious process, and the next opportunity won't be until october
[19:22] <rym> well it doesnt
[19:22] <rym> oh
[19:22] <rym> wait
[19:22] <MasterShrak> logi2 it wont boot or it wont load x?
[19:22] <MasterShrak> !enter | rym
[19:22] <ubotu> rym: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:22] <rym> i think i typed xserver-org in stead of xserver-xorg
[19:22] <mokkpr01> h00K_ : but thats after installing ubuntu... if i want to know before downloading the iso...
[19:22] <rym> sec
[19:22] <graft> rym: the lowly typo brings down even the best of men
[19:22] <nikrud> chieh: I mean, released in the ubuntu archives. You'd have to start now, if you want the motu's to consider advocating it
[19:22] <chieh> why is it such a serious process?
[19:23] <logi2> MasterShrak im not smart enough to know the difference, it just doesnt do anything
[19:23] <chieh> ohhh i see
[19:23] <nikrud> chieh: trust, quality packages, etc
[19:23] <chieh> i probably won't make it in for the next term
[19:23] <chieh> i was more curious how it works in general for my future reference
[19:23] <rym> graft: i also added -phigh for automatic configuration
[19:23] <rym> that should work, right?
[19:23] <h00k_> mokkpr01: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[19:23] <graft> rym: no idea
[19:23] <nikrud> chieh: then the two links, the packaging guide and the ppa's will get you a good working knowledge
[19:24] <mokkpr01> h00K_ : if it is already there in the iso, i dont have to download wubi. .. which it says is included in 7.10 live cd.. i've just want to make sure..
[19:24] <ltcabral> MasterShrak: it says ln: accessing `/usr/bin/realplay': Too many levels of symbolic links
[19:24] <rym> ah, well we'll see :p
[19:24] <chieh> thank you very much , i will go read both of them
[19:24] <MasterShrak> ltcabral does it run if you just type ./realplay from that folder (~/RealPlay) ?
[19:24] <rym> huzzah it worked
[19:24] <mokkpr01> h00k_: Thanks a lot; i'll go thru the stuff..
[19:25] <chieh> so it sounds like i'll have to make a case to them why they should include my package
[19:25] <logi2> MasterShrak-actually it makes noise and the fans turn on etc, i wired up a fan to the new card and that works, so its getting power there at least
[19:25] <h00k_> mokkpr01: Good luck :)
[19:25] <chieh> do they only take open source, or close sources as well?
[19:25] <h00k_> chieh: Windows - Closed source
[19:25] <ltcabral> MasterShrak: oh i made it work... the first time i made the link made me get this message... i used ur command but with full path
[19:25] <ltcabral> thx
[19:26] <chieh> i see, oh then
[19:26] <MasterShrak> ltcabral ah, cool
[19:26] <MasterShrak> logi2 does it have onboard video? maybe try disabling that in the bios
[19:27] <logi2> MasterShrak, its not displaying anything at all, so i dont think i can get to the bios, it doesnt work with the old card either
[19:28] <jasonxh> hi, anyone know when we can download Hardy beta?
[19:28] <jasonxh> its supposed to be out today, right?
[19:29] <ritalin> y0
[19:29] <ritalin> you guys familiar with teh ipod on linux?
[19:29] <ritalin> i plugged it in and ubuntu regonized it just fine
[19:29] <ritalin> i was wondering if I could somehoe extract my music
[19:29] <ritalin> i didnt back it up any other way :(
[19:30] <h00k_> ritalin: ephpod
[19:30] <aetaric> ritalin: not if it is an mp4
[19:30] <aetaric> so if you bought it in itunes then no
[19:30] <h00k_> ephpod will extract to mp3
[19:30] <h00k_> I believe
[19:30] <ritalin> nah i uggg bought it elsewhere
[19:30] <mirak> hello, I have a problem, ubuntu creates a device for my sata drive in /dev/mapper
[19:30] <ritalin> :D
[19:31] <aetaric> you can also browse the directories of the ipod to get the mp3s
[19:31] <aetaric> mirak: how is that bad?
[19:31] <ritalin> h00k_: no ephpod in repo
[19:31] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there
[19:32] <wilbert> hello
[19:32] <mirak> aetaric: mkswap and mkfs.xfs fails on some partitions
[19:32] <aetaric> ah that would be bad
[19:32] <mirak> aetaric: it says device busy
[19:32] <bastid_raZor> ritalin; i always use command line to get in to my psp to move files around.. it normally mounts it on /media/disk/
[19:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nautilus is telling me that it won't open my paper, because its name indicates a "pdf document" but it is  a "Documento PDF" (in italian)
[19:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> apart from the windowish feeling
[19:32] <mirak> while there is not much reason it's busy aetaric
[19:32] <h00k_> ritalin: http://www.ephpod.com/download.shtml
[19:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> is this a known bug?
[19:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> maybe I'd better ask on ubuntu-ti
[19:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it
[19:33]  * ApOgEE- going offline... bye all
[19:33] <aetaric> is it your only disk?
[19:33] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[19:33] <Drk_Guy> How can i enable time control on a machine?
[19:34] <Drk_Guy> I mean, i want to install ubuntu on an internet cafe
[19:34] <yowshi> dammit
[19:34] <jake2point0> i noticed something funny about the update i just recieved.  it was gzip.   i mean how much better can it get?
[19:34] <yowshi> i just dont have the hdd space to back up my shit
[19:34] <logi2> tried changing video cards, didnt show anything on the screen, nothing with any video cards now, any ideas?
[19:35] <EdwardXp> can someone help me out trying to figure out how i get GL_Desktop to work and do the 3dCube
[19:35] <EdwardXp> alt_shift control doesn't work
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> yowshi: what are you trying to do?
[19:35] <EdwardXp> left and right mouse don't work :(
[19:35] <Drk_Guy> EdwardXp: You can get better help with #compiz-fusion
[19:35] <yowshi> i need to back up my home folder and my media folder before i do a fresh install. i have about 250 gigs pf backup space
[19:36] <mirak> aetaric: no
[19:36] <ubuntu-user100> hello! can anybody tell me where i can find ubuntu 8 beta download links?
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> yowshi: compression?
[19:36] <yowshi> my home and desktop is all backed up but my media is another story
[19:36] <yowshi> i didnt use compression i was told it causes less hassles later not to
[19:36] <jng> ib
[19:36] <jake2point0> i cant believe i can use yahoo messenger (gyachi) and actually use the voice chat... sweetness i say
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> Maybe dvd's or portable hd's
[19:37] <jng> ubuntu-user100: not sure beta is out yet
[19:37] <komputes> jake2point0: how did you pull that off?
[19:37] <ubuntu-user100> jng: oh ok. thanks.
[19:37] <mirak> I have a problem, gparted fails to format my partitions, it says device busy
[19:37] <Bob_Dole> Mirak, are you botting from a Live CD?
[19:37] <Drk_Guy> ubuntu-user100: Read the /motd
[19:37] <lordleemo> he he sorry guys just had to share this . the msn summer virus has just hit windows again msn messenger is being hit for fun . poor old redmond users
[19:38] <bastid_raZor> the alpha6 is located here :: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha6
[19:38] <Bob_Dole> if you are running it from the HD, yeah, it will fail.
[19:38] <jake2point0> komputes i just installed gyachi.  i had to get rid of my 64bit version of debian though and install the 32 bit version of Gutsy Gibbon.  after that it works
[19:38] <phonohead> is it possible to convert RPM's to DEB's?
[19:38] <komputes> jake2point0: nice i'll add it to my videoconference list
[19:38] <aetaric> phonohead you want to install alien
[19:39] <minimec_away> phonohead: 'alien' sudo apz-get install alien
[19:39] <stian> I wonder about something, How can I convert .uif files to .iso? In windows i used ISO Magic, is it some "apt-get install" can use?, ubunut noob
[19:39] <mirak> Bob_Dole: no
[19:39] <phonohead> what is alien?
[19:39] <ubuntu-user100> thanks everybody.
[19:39] <Bob_Dole> mirak if you are using a liveCD, make sure all the volumes are unmounted.
[19:39] <tvnz> alien is rpm to deb converter
[19:39] <phonohead> aha
[19:39] <phonohead> thanks, it's not harder than that?
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: alien is a bad idea
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> !alien
[19:40] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[19:40] <bastid_raZor> stian; poweriso can do lots of things.. i think converting those file types is one of them
[19:40] <phonohead> IndyGunFreak: the good idea is?
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: i said horrid idea, not a good one
[19:40] <bastid_raZor> stian; it isnt' in the repo's.. google for it.
[19:40] <Bob_Dole> mirak: if you are running ubuntu from the HD, gparted is an unhappy camper when it comes to changing anything on the same HD, or any HD that has any mounted volumes
[19:40] <phonohead> IndyGunFreak: yea, but what _is_ the good idea then?
[19:40] <mirak> Bob_Dole: good, it's not the same HD
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: well, what are you trying to do?
[19:41] <neverblue> xorg command to manually setup monitors/video (writes to xorg.conf) ?
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> i guarantee there is a better way than alien
[19:41] <Bob_Dole> OK, then just unmount every and make sure ubuntu doesn't automount it(pain in the butt, that automounter can be!)
[19:41] <Bob_Dole> every volume from that HD*
[19:41] <phonohead> IndyGunFreak: i've got transgamings cedega here, but it's a RPM, i need it on to run on this machine with Ubuntu
[19:41] <neverblue> !xorg
[19:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:42]  * Drk_Guy asks "How can i control the time users spend on a machine in an e-cafe?"
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: don't they have source?.. compile the source code
[19:42] <phonohead> IndyGunFreak: i'd need to purchase it again in that case
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: well thats stupid.
[19:42] <Bob_Dole> o_O
[19:42] <phonohead> yeah, i know..
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> they'll make you purchase it again to download a different version
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[19:42] <Bob_Dole> You deleted your sourcecode?
[19:42] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[19:43] <Drk_Guy> Anyone¿
[19:43] <phonohead> i got it as a RPM, that's it. no sourcecode whatsoever
[19:43] <Bob_Dole> They must provide the source if they provide a binary.
[19:43] <graft> Drk_Guy: cron?
[19:44] <Venko> I'm having some issues with video playback using the fglrx driver. wxvlc crashes on start-up and the movie players that do work freeze a lot. Any ideas?
[19:44] <Drk_Guy> graft: Picture this, i have 4 pc's, and one of them controls the time users use the other pcs
[19:44] <Drk_Guy> graft: It's an e-cafe
[19:44] <IndyGunFreak> phonohead: i would probably stick w/ an RPM distro if its that important to you..., but that is one jackedu p policy
[19:45] <Bob_Dole> Phonohead, just make them provide you witht he sourcecode
[19:45] <Parsec300> ritalin, you can also try Amarok. To get it to work in Ubuntu you need to do something extra other than just install it.
[19:45] <CJS3141> If I want to run a command in a terminal window, and do it with a shortcut from the "applications" menu, what is the proper syntax?
[19:45] <phonohead> i'll give them a call
[19:45] <Bob_Dole> you bought the binary, they( I think..use the GPL) must give you the source as a result :|
[19:45] <graft> Drk_Guy: i mean this is really beyond the scope of this channel, but, just set a cron job when the user logs in, so that after X amount of time it locks their screen or logs them out or something
[19:45] <phonohead> this is LInux, there's always a solution
[19:46] <Shepherd> yo, can someone tell me how I can set keyboard keys to open a certain program
[19:46] <Shepherd> I went to "keyboard shortcuts" but I cant change the program
[19:46] <neverblue> how do you repair a terminal's res. when outside of X ?
[19:46] <phonohead> thanks dudes/chicks
[19:46] <Drk_Guy> graft: Nice idea
[19:47] <Shepherd> Anyone?
[19:47] <bastid_raZor> he left too soon.. ubuntu docs claim alien can convert rpm's to debs
[19:47] <Shepherd> Hey Ross.
[19:47] <ross`_> Shepherd: hi
[19:47] <Shepherd> Can someone tell me how I can set keyboard keys to open a certain program.
[19:48] <ross`_> can someone tell me how to manually set a key by a command in shell, or which file to edit?
[19:48] <Venko> Is it the graphics driver I'm using? The proprietary ATI one that's causing the problem? It's worked fine in the past.
[19:48] <bastid_raZor> Shepherd; System>Administration>Keyboard Shortcuts
[19:48] <Shepherd> I stated before that I tried that :( IS there another method that allows me to set the program as well.
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> graft: But they wont know how much time is left
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> :(
[19:48] <jng> Shepherd: xbindkeys might help
[19:48] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: it can, yes, but its a horrid idea
[19:48] <Shepherd> thanks :D
[19:49] <bastid_raZor> IndyGunFreak; i agree.. how else to convert an rpm to deb though.. it is possible i'm sure
[19:49] <CJS3141> If I want to set up a shortcut in the "applications" menu to run a command in a terminal window, how do I do it?
[19:49] <graft> Drk_Guy: run a little timer applet in the corner, dude... be creative
[19:49] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: its best to obtain the source ccode and compile from source
[19:49] <bastid_raZor> IndyGunFreak; okay.. noted..
[19:50] <captainm> CJS3141: Right click on the applications menu > Edit menus
[19:50] <Dj_SiMo7> lol
[19:50] <CJS3141> catpainm: yes, I know, but say I want to run "ls -al" in a terminal window then?
[19:51] <Lasivian> I'm just looking for a recommendation. I need a wireless card that is USB, very linux/ubuntu compatible and can use an external antenna. Thanks :)
[19:51] <neverblue> how do you repair a terminal's res. when outside of X ? (its set at a low res. )
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> graft: But the thing is, how can i remotely control cron?
[19:51] <graft> Drk_Guy: why do you need to remotely control it?
[19:52] <Drk_Guy> graft: To specify how much time the user buys
[19:52] <stefan_> re
[19:52] <jdrivexp> How do I install Ubuntu along side Windows?
[19:52] <jdrivexp> ubuntu
[19:53] <graft> Drk_Guy: i think this is really beyond the scope of this channel, guy... and you should get yourself a knowledgable programmer
[19:53] <sinsun> could I install KDE on Ubuntu?
[19:53] <StefanW> jdrivexp: create linux partitions with a partition manager
[19:53] <Drk_Guy> sinsun: kde-desktop
[19:53] <StefanW> jdrivexp: then install ubuntu with the install cd :)
[19:53] <bastid_raZor> !dualboot > jdrivexp
[19:53] <boris> hello
[19:53] <boris> whats the command to start rhythmbox in system tray ?
[19:54] <captainm> CJS3141: You can just specify that in the dropdown menu can't you?
[19:54] <stefan_> jdrivexp: the easiest way would be to install windows first, then ubuntu onto another partition... ubuntu automatically installs a bootmanager. then you can choose between win/linux every time you boot
[19:54] <jdrivexp> windows does not have a partition editor preinstalled, do you recommend one?
[19:54] <CJS3141> captainm: yes, but it pulls up the terminal window, runs the command, then closes it! :-(
[19:54] <stefan_> jdrivexp: windows has a partition manager
[19:54] <StefanW> Powerques Partition Manager or Paragon Partition Manager
[19:54] <bastid_raZor> jdrivexp; the live cd will give you the option to resize your partitions
[19:54] <StefanW> *powerquest
[19:55] <jng> Drk_Guy: you suggested /motd had info on the beta release.. i don't see anything :(
[19:56] <yowshi> almost done ditching media anyone know exactly what i have to do to make 2 partitions on 2 seperate hard disks act as one?
[19:56] <stefan_> ive got a problem with my wlan-card: i use a t41 thinkpad and i have a atheros-card installed. i cant get a logical device in monitor-mode to run..
[19:56] <Drk_Guy> jng: /j #ubuntu-1
[19:56] <Drk_Guy> :)
[19:56] <Lamego> yowshi, you need to use lvm
[19:56] <jng> ah.. of course tks
[19:56] <mirak> helppppp
[19:56] <Drk_Guy> Rats, thanks graft, ill keep on researching about cron
[19:57] <Lamego> mirak, just write your question
[19:57] <mirak> I alreay did it
[19:57] <mirak> I can't format my partitions on a secondary hard drive
[19:57] <Lamego> what error do you get ?
[19:57] <stefan_> and another "problem" after installing a lot of packages, my hdd is doing something every few seconds.. just a "tick" like when youre downloading something. how do i check which process is doing that? top doesnt help
[19:58] <mirak> Lamego: mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdb9: Device or resource busy
[19:58] <Lamego> stefan_, probably is the trackerd process
[19:58] <stefan_> Lamego: can i kill it?
[19:58] <stefan_> and what is it?
[19:58] <mirak> Lamego: the device is not mounted
[19:58] <mirak> of course
[19:58] <amortvigil> how can i make this as a starter? DISPLAY=:0 wine "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -dsound -noshaders flags -repair -image -dx8
[19:58] <mirak> there is no fs on it anyway
[19:59] <bastid_raZor> jng; i just did an update on my alpha6 running in VMWare and i'm not sure if it went to beta1 status or not.. it had about 70Megs of updates though
[19:59] <scrack> hello help pls
[19:59] <aurax> anyone here knows something about jsvc?
[20:00] <aurax> i'm trying to start a jar file as a service but it gives me the headache
[20:00] <jng> bastid_raZor: tks.. i decided to do a fresh install.. so was debating whether to go for alpha-6 or wait for the beta
[20:00] <cameodemon> hey im having flickering on my second monitor setup in dual-head ati
[20:01] <matti_> hey people, i need oe help intalling pidgin
[20:01] <matti_> *some help
[20:01] <cameodemon> from the repositories?
[20:01] <cameodemon> are you using gutsy?
[20:01] <matti_> yes
[20:02] <matti_> yes
[20:02] <cameodemon> ok did you try clicking?
[20:02] <matti_> iy says something is comflicting with it
[20:02] <matti_> somethings conflicting with it
[20:02] <cameodemon> um....................try installing from source
[20:02] <matti_> wher that????
[20:02] <matti_> ive only had ubuntu a day
[20:02] <mirak> how can this command fail ??
[20:02] <mirak> mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb9 -f
[20:02] <mirak> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdb9: Périphérique ou ressource occupé
[20:02] <bastid_raZor> jng; once you start the hardy process the updates move you along.. you'll be up to date with apt-get... unless you want nightly builds.. and that is tough road to travel
[20:03] <nikrud> matti_: run   sudo apt-get install pidgin   in a terminal, and put the complete output (including the command) on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:03] <aurax> so anyone here experienced with jsvc?
[20:03] <aurax> i'm trying thsi command : jsvc -Xmx1024M -debug -user root -outfile SYSLOG -errfile SYSLOG -pidfile "/var/run/fag.pid" -cp "/usr/share/java/commons-daemon.jar:/home/sharepath/loader/loader.jar"
[20:03] <jng> tkns bastid_raZor:  i've decided to go with the alpha-6 for now
[20:03] <nikrud> !hardy
[20:03] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:04] <bastid_raZor> jng; same thing i've done.. that is where i started in VMWare.. just to see how badly it breaks and not really affect me.
[20:04] <yowshi> i wonder if updating to hardy would fix my permission crap
[20:04] <matti_> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[20:04] <matti_> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[20:04] <matti_> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[20:04] <matti_> or been moved out of Incoming.
[20:04] <matti_> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[20:04] <matti_> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[20:04] <FloodBot2> matti_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <matti_> that package should be filed.
[20:04] <aurax> ouchy
[20:04] <mdke> hi there. I need some help with gnupg - what is the best way to import my keys and use them on a new computer?
[20:05] <nikrud> matti_: I gave you the link to paste into
[20:05] <matti_> so can anyone help me?
[20:05] <tvnz> matti_,  what version Ubuntu u use?
[20:05] <matti_> sory, ill aste it in there now
[20:05] <matti_> gutsy gibon
[20:05] <mirak> is there a way to disable a periphéral ?
[20:06]  * nikrud avoids gpg as much as possible
[20:06] <Ward1983> how can i install the open source flash player? i installed the regular one and the sound doesnt work
[20:06] <souper> hey everyone
[20:06] <saschahl> mirak: like what?
[20:06] <matti_> i pasted what it said at that URL
[20:06] <rwycuff> xomp: the gentoo installation i have it memorized and yes it is horrible
[20:07] <InSaN3> hi
[20:07] <tvnz> matti_,  give link to page :)
[20:07] <rwycuff> xomp:it seems like your wireless nic card isnt loading
[20:07] <souper> so i'm having a problem with hibernating and my swap partition
[20:07] <matti_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60335/
[20:07] <matti_> that what u wanted?
[20:07] <gregory> Ward1983: try sudo apt-get install gnasg
[20:07] <gregory> Ward1983: try sudo apt-get install gnash
[20:08] <jaco> hello everyone..i seriously need some help...i deleted the i386 folder on an external HD that used to be the HD of a laptop.  any advice?
[20:08] <Ward1983> gregorah, thanx
[20:08] <nikrud> matti_: you have getdeb stuff in your repository list?
[20:08] <jaco> the HD wont start...it wont let my open it
[20:08] <matti_> in my add or remove programs list?
[20:09] <nikrud> matti_: let me ask it this way: did you download pidgin from getdeb and try to install it?
[20:09] <InSaN3> http://127.0.0.1:1234
[20:10] <matti_> it was already on the OS then it wudnt work so i uninstalled it then tried mercury but that wont work so then i tried to install pidgin again and it says conflict
[20:10] <InSaN3> http://127.0.0.1:1234
[20:10] <Lamego> matti_, remove all packages starting with pidgin
[20:10] <nikrud> matti_:  dpkg -l *pidgin* | grep ^ii , delete those packages.
[20:10] <souper> When i first installed ubuntu on this computer, hibernation was working fine. But I did a little reorganization of my partitions including adding a new one for my home directory. Since then every time i hibernate it doesn't resume it just starts up as it would from a regular restart and it corrupts my swap partition everytime
[20:11] <nikrud> matti_:   sudo apt-get remove <all those packages>
[20:11] <souper> anyone have any ideas on what would cause that and how to fix it?
[20:11] <jaco> join ##windows
[20:11] <nikrud> thank you  but no, jaco  ;)
[20:11] <matti_> what do i put after the word remove?
[20:12] <Tolyan> Hiya, I need some advice... I've resized a vista partition with gparteowd from the gutsy livecd... and now I can't boot vista. I tried to repair it using both vista and xp cds, that failed ...
[20:12] <danand> souper - did you resize your swap partition?
[20:12] <nikrud> matti_: that first command,   dpkg -l '*pidgin'* | grep ^ii   (copy and paste into a terminal)  will list the package names you put after remove
[20:12] <jaco> sry nicrod i was tryin to get in that room haha
[20:12] <souper> danand i removed it and created a new one
[20:12] <Lamego> Matthai, sudo apt-get remove pidgin*
[20:12] <zschallz_> Tolyan: You can't boot it, or you don't have the option to boot it?
[20:12] <nikrud> matti_: erg, typo: dpkg -l '*pidgin*' | grep ^i  is correct
[20:12] <Shadow_mil> Everyone, if you want a 'private mode' in Firefox3 (A mode where your history, cache, and saved data is disabled while active).   Go to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248970   and vote!
[20:12] <Lamego> ops, was matti_
[20:12] <cdeszaq> Does anyone have experience setting up multiple Bugzillas on the same server?
[20:12] <souper> it's sda reference changed
[20:13] <nikrud> everyone should have unique 3 char prefixes to nicks
[20:13] <danand> souper - is the partition the same size or bigger than the ammount of ram you have?
[20:13] <gregory> czk: better ask in bugzilla channel ;-)
[20:13] <souper> its double the ram i have
[20:13] <gregory> czk: sorry
[20:13] <matti_> Package ii is not installed, so not removed
[20:13] <matti_> E: Couldn't find package 1:2.4.0-1~getdeb1
[20:13] <cdeszaq> np, just curious
[20:13] <Tolyan> It appears in grub and it booted fine before the resize.  Now when i choose it the comp reboots
[20:13] <gregory> cdeszaq: : better ask in bugzilla channel ;-)
[20:13] <matti_> i got that when i put that in
[20:13] <cdeszaq> gregory: do you happen to know the chan name?
[20:14] <Lamego> matti_, sudo apt-get remove "pidgin*"
[20:14] <gregory> cdeszaq: sorry, no, google..
[20:14] <Lamego> or just go to synaptic
[20:14] <Lamego> and remove the pidgin packages
[20:14] <yowshi> oh nikrud i dont know if you got the final update from my problem last night but all efforts failed
[20:14] <nikrud> yowshi: not suprising. sudo is a fragile beast sometimes
[20:14] <zschallz_> Tolyan: hmm... probably not much you can do. should probably back things up and reinstall
[20:15] <matti_> nothing happened...
[20:15] <yowshi> nikrud i am currently sifting through files to decide what to kea
[20:15] <yowshi> keep*
[20:15] <nikrud> matti_: something happened, it says something when you do that
[20:15] <bloatedyak> people actually use this channel?
[20:16] <gnuskool> yah
[20:16] <jussio1> bloatedyak: yeah, about 1300 currently
[20:16] <matti_> rite just redid it and it says press y or n
[20:16] <bloatedyak> woa
[20:16] <matti_> what shud i do//
[20:16] <matti_> ?
[20:16] <nikrud> matti_: say yes
[20:16] <matti_> what now?
[20:17] <Tolyan> zchallz: ... But ubuntu can mount the partition and it works just fine
[20:17] <nikrud> matti_: then it will say something about removing  some packages, should have removed pidgin-data (and pidgin)
[20:17] <matti_> so now i should be able to install pidgin?
[20:17] <gnuskool> irc is the best support tere is 4 ppl who like to help themselves, leave the hand-holding to 'you know who'
[20:17] <nikrud> matti_: it's a good bet
[20:17] <tvnz> matti_,  now try sudo apt-get install pidgin
[20:18] <matti_> it says yes or no again
[20:18] <matti_> do yes?
[20:18] <tvnz> yes
[20:18] <Lamego> erm, what part of yes or no you do not understand ?
[20:18] <nikrud> matti_: read what it says, so you have a better understanding, then say yes :)
[20:18] <matti_> lol okay im sorry, im new at ubuntu, ive had it for a day
[20:19] <nikrud> matti_: no problem, you learn by doing (and paying attention to what you are doing :) Beginners are always welcom
[20:19] <matti_> aha, i think its working :D
[20:19] <matti_> thanks man, uve bee a massive help
[20:19] <matti_> *been
[20:19] <gnuskool> is performance hard hit by running kde n gnome simultaneously?
[20:20] <Cann0n> gnuskool, running both at the same time?
[20:20] <marco__> #ubuntu-it
[20:20] <rami> Hello, I need help in running a native Visual Basic program on Linux using wine....
[20:20] <nikrud> gnuskool: if you have enough memory, running kde apps in gnome (and visa versa) works fine, no real slowdonw
[20:20] <matti_> aw man
[20:20] <gnuskool> installing both, in different sessions
[20:20] <marco__> sorry
[20:20] <marco__> :p
[20:20] <matti_> its still not working!
[20:20] <marco__> i forgot /j
[20:20] <matti_> the program wont boot
[20:21] <tvnz> matti_,  write pidgin in console , and paste answer
[20:21] <nikrud> gnuskool: again, memory is gonna matter much more than anything else
[20:21] <Lamego> matti_, sudo apt-get remove "libpurple*"
[20:21] <Cann0n> gnuskool, you can only run one at a time. im not sure about ubuntu, but slackware you can install how ever many you want.
[20:22] <nikrud> Cann0n: incorrect. You can run them both, in separate X sessions
[20:22] <Lamego> he can run both, using 2 X sessions
[20:22] <oddchild> hello all, my laptop does not notice when I plug things in the USB unless I do it before i turn it on. I recently bought a USB hard drive, it works for 30 minutes then shuts off (while doing things or not) then I cannot plug it back in... Any ideas?
[20:22] <matti_> just did what lamego said and its taking pidin off
[20:22] <souper> when ubuntu hibernates it stores the ram to swap correct?
[20:22] <Lamego> matti_, yes, you will need to reinstall it, now with th proper libpurple*
[20:22] <Cann0n> nikrud, thank you for the correction. i misunderstood. i am aware of multi x-session. :P
[20:22] <nikrud> matti_: that's ok, Lamego remembered that pidgin uses a silly name for the libs
[20:23] <matti_> so now i can reinstall and it should work?
[20:23] <Lamego> yes
[20:23] <bjames> hi all, I'm trying to build cisco VPN client, it asks me to specify "Directory containing linux kernel source code [/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build]" and I press enter (expecting that to be ok), but building fails
[20:23] <gnuskool> nikrud: dont have much memory, might have to use flux
[20:24] <EdwardXp3> whats' the command to reconfigure the kernel to install more options?
[20:24] <danand> souper - yes, but some suspends and hibernates are controlled by the systems bios
[20:24] <bjames> /home/bjames/Desktop/vpn/vpnclient/linuxcniapi.c:12:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[20:24] <EdwardXp3> " auto config something... "
[20:24] <Centaur5> Every time I try to run oem-config-prepare and reboot I start typing in the new user information but it automatically continues loading to the login screen and doesn't create the user. What can be done?
[20:24] <Lamego> bjames, did you install the linux headers package ?
[20:24] <Cann0n> gnuskool, how much memory do you have?
[20:24] <bjames> Lamego: I will check
[20:25] <matti_> i just tried to intall using add or remove programs and it still says omething i comflicting with it :S
[20:25] <Lamego> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[20:25] <gnuskool> cannon: 128MB
[20:25] <tvnz> matti_, show error
[20:25] <psmodo> ls
[20:25] <EdwardXp3> Lamego:  i just want to try and configure the existing
[20:25] <matti_> says this
[20:25] <matti_> his application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'pidgin' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[20:25] <matti_> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[20:25] <Cann0n> i wouldn't attempt to run multi x-sessions on different wm's
[20:26] <Lamego> matti_, uff, what about reading the specific message that you get, is terrible that you don't care to read the error messages in detail
[20:26] <bjames> Lamego: what is the name in synaptec?
[20:26] <leodamasceno_> Alguém aqui mexe com Drag and Drop em java?
[20:26] <bjames> synaptic*
[20:26] <souper> well i found something about resume=/dev/hdaX as a kernel parameter, so if that's how it resumes from a hibernate I'm thinking that because the dev reference for my swap changed that it's trying to resume from a partition that's not my swap
[20:26] <Lamego> bjames, on the terminal:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[20:26] <Stirner> salut
[20:26] <bjames> synaptic tells me I have them
[20:26] <souper> which would leave the image on swap and causing the partition to appear corrupt
[20:26] <bjames> linux-headers-2.6.22-14
[20:26] <oddchild> hello all, my laptop does not notice when I plug things in the USB unless I do it before i turn it on. I recently bought a USB hard drive, it works for 30 minutes then shuts off (while doing things or not) then I cannot plug it back in... Any ideas?
[20:27] <Lamego> ok, build-essential is also installed ?
[20:27] <matti_> is there anyway i can restore ubuntu from when i installed it?
[20:27] <Stirner> suis en train d'installer ubuntu7.10 sur une carte mère P31-NEo de chez MSi et pas moyen de faire fonctionner l'usb
[20:27] <souper> so if i changed the grub config and fixed that boot param shouldn't that fix the problem?
[20:28] <corinne_> Hey, everyone.  I was wondering, is there a way to play .rm files in ubuntu?  vlc and mplayer aren't agreeing.
[20:28] <gregory> Stirner: /join ubuntu-fr :-)
[20:28] <Stirner> mici
[20:28] <oddchild> corinne_,  you can get realplayer for linux :D
[20:28] <corinne_> Oh man.  I guess I have to.  *sigh*
[20:29] <oddchild> corinne_,  there is also helixplayer
[20:29] <bullgard4> [GNOME] How to determine the filename of the dialog that appears when I click System > Quit... ?
[20:29] <corinne_> helixplayer works?
[20:29] <EdwardXp3> can someone teach me how to upgrade the kernel to the newst one?
[20:29] <oddchild> corinne_,  yeah it should ;)
[20:29] <matti_> is there anyway i can restore my ubuntu to when i first got it?
[20:29] <bullgard4> EdwardXp3: Join the channel #ubuntu+1 and ask there.
[20:30] <oddchild> math_b,  like how it was when you first installed?
[20:30] <c3f59d4> hey @all,   someone in for some touchscreen questions?
[20:30] <oddchild> math_b, with just default programs etc?
[20:30] <gregory> corinne_: i tried to use helixplayer, no luck
[20:30] <brambi1> i need help
[20:30] <bjames> Lamego: any ideas?
[20:30] <brambi1> how do i set my identd in xchat?
[20:30] <gregory> corinne_: standard players dont offer to install the plugins for you?
[20:30] <matti_> are thee any other decent msn programs
[20:30] <matti_> ?
[20:31] <corinne_> They offer, and then they tell me they can't fine them.
[20:31] <souper> c3f59d4 did you uncomment the wacom lines the the xorg.conf?
[20:31] <c3f59d4> no
[20:31] <souper> that's a good place to start
[20:31] <gregory> corinne_: hmm, would you have an url for testing?
[20:31] <c3f59d4> okay, so xorg.conf and reboot?
[20:31] <_Martin23254> hi everyone
[20:32] <souper> yea make sure any line about wacom isn't commented
[20:32] <c3f59d4> okay, ill try that .. see you in 5 minutes :)
[20:32] <corinne_> gregory, I'm not sujre what you mean.
[20:32] <souper> alrighty
[20:33] <gregory> corinne_: ok, my mistake. one step back. what is the message when it "doesnt find the plugins"?
[20:33] <corinne_> matti_: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[20:33] <tvnz> matti_, gaim, amsn
[20:33] <bl4ckh3r0> ciao
[20:33] <corinne_> gregory: "There is no matching application available."
[20:34] <Cann0n> i thought gaim was discontinued
[20:34] <xim> is there no way to find out where a file is on your system after it comes up in a search?  it would be really nice if there was a column in the search window for location, but it seems like all you can do is right click each file and do properties, and even then it cuts off with a ..., it seems like there theres litterally NO way to find these files
[20:34] <|KoCoBo|>  kosovo je srce srbije!!!
[20:34] <|KoCoBo|>  kosovo je srce srbije!!!
[20:35] <Cann0n> tvnz, pidgin is gaim. gaim was renamed last april.
[20:35] <corinne_> Cann0n: gaim became pidgin because aim was bitching about the name
[20:35] <corinne_> jinx!
[20:35] <tvnz> :)
[20:35] <tvnz> sorry
[20:35] <Cann0n> lol
[20:35] <gregory> corinne_: you were using synaptic. could be a problem with the repositories (database where all the software is stored)
[20:35] <corinne_> Oh.
[20:36] <Cann0n> all good. i didnt know until i spent a week looking for it lol.
[20:36] <oddchild> hello all, my laptop does not notice when I plug things in the USB unless I do it before i turn it on. I recently bought a USB hard drive, it works for 30 minutes then shuts off (while doing things or not) then I cannot plug it back in... Any ideas?
[20:36] <gregory> corinne_: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:36] <_Martin23254> i just installed ubuntu and put screen resolution to 1024x768, but after rebot it's 640x480 and I cant go higher... What do i do?
[20:36] <corinne_> oddchild: I had the same problem.  I found a linux nerd, bought her dinner and she fixed it.
[20:37] <oddchild> corinne_,  lol none here on this small island... i think i would have to ask skipper or giligan
[20:37] <SavageOne> hey guys:  I'm installing zimbra open source, and it says I'm missing:  libltd13
[20:37] <corinne_> Surely gilligan could figure it out
[20:37] <SavageOne> I tried apt-get, apt-cache search etc
[20:37] <SavageOne> anyone know what that is?
[20:37] <gregory> _Martin23254: is it first time you reboot? try again. worked for me. after second reboot everything was ok ;-)
[20:37] <oddchild> corinne_,  that dunderhead ;)
[20:37] <Flare183> !ot
[20:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:38] <corinne_> Try googling "ubuntu usb mount problem" or something along those lines
[20:38] <_Martin23254> Its the third reboot..
[20:38] <oddchild> corinne_,  tried that... :( i found a lot of people having different problems
[20:38] <Flare183> !who | corinne_
[20:38] <ubotu> corinne_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:39] <souper_> hmm well editing the grub config didn't work
[20:39] <corinne_> Flare183: I was talking to oddchild
[20:39] <gregory> _Martin23254: which version of ubuntu?
[20:39] <oddchild> corinne_,  i just found my own post on ubuntuforums .. lol
[20:39] <Cann0n> ... most people in here dont type their targets screen name. :(
[20:39] <cc> okay, so im back
[20:39] <Flare183> corinne_: did you read the what ubotu said?
[20:40] <Flare183> Cann0n: yeah i know
[20:40] <souper> !tab
[20:40] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[20:40] <Flare183> Cann0n: they should through
[20:40] <_Martin23254> 7.1
[20:40] <corinne_> Flare183: yes...?
[20:40] <c3f59d4> souper, you french?
[20:41] <souper> no
[20:41]  * Flare183 ignores corinne_
[20:41] <Cann0n> Flare183, i agree
[20:41] <gregory> _Martin23254: sorry, me cant help, but other people can ;-)
[20:41] <gregory> corinne_: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:41] <tvnz> SavageOne, paste error code
[20:41] <c3f59d4> okay, your name suggests... so i decommented, changes nothing
[20:41] <Cann0n> _Martin23254, configure your graphics card and screen
[20:41] <vallhalla81> !mp3
[20:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:41] <corinne_> gregory: 7.10
[20:42] <ricko12345> is there a way to install unrar or anything on ubuntu gnomme without compileng and all the other stuff is there a way to make it automatic like windows
[20:42] <itaku> is there a program that could give me stats of NCAA games for ubuntu?
[20:42] <Cann0n> ricko12345, apt-get
[20:42] <gregory> corinne_: could you also give me the internet address of the rm you are trying to play?
[20:42] <jrib> !unrar > ricko12345 (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:42] <Flare183> ricko12345: depends on the software
[20:42] <Jordan_U> !rar | ricko12345
[20:42] <ubotu> ricko12345: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:43] <c3f59d4> souper, got another hint for the unknowing of ubuntu that i am ?
[20:43] <corinne_> gregory: http://www.mininova.org/get/1256224
[20:43] <souper> c3f59d4: sorry i only knew to try that because i've heard of other people having success but that's about as far as my knowledge goes when it comes to touchscreens
[20:43] <ricko12345> its becouse every time i want to install a program i dont want to compile
[20:43] <c3f59d4> kay.. so maybe one of the other things i have to solve?
[20:44] <souper> is it the touchscreen on a tablet pc?
[20:44] <c3f59d4> no
[20:44] <noAudioMakeMeCra> Hey guys i am having the WEIRDEST problem... for some reason my headphones are plugged in and i am hearing sound form my speakers at the same time~!! i have 7.10 installed and have a built in intel soundcard!!!!! can anyone please help me out!???
[20:44] <Jordan_U> !rar | ricko12345
[20:44] <ubotu> ricko12345: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:44] <genii> ricko12345: How have you been installing things up til now? Downloading the source code and compiling it??
[20:44] <c3f59d4> ist a lifebook
[20:44] <gregory> corinne_: hold on for a few minutes. i am just installing 7.10 into a virtual machine
[20:44] <Cann0n> c3f59d4, what are you trying to do?
[20:45] <gregory> corinne_: needs to be done anyway..
[20:45] <steven__> hello everyone does anyone know how to connect an external harddrive on ubuntu that is nfts
[20:45] <ricko12345> ya but it gives me this error configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[20:45] <c3f59d4> well three things: 1st get to work my touchscreen on fujitsu lifebook
[20:45] <Cann0n> steven__, is it usb?
[20:45] <steven__> cann0n, yes it is
[20:45] <xim> theres some ntfs tools
[20:45] <xim> but ive been dealing with that
[20:46] <c3f59d4> 2nd get to work the mouse knob its got
[20:46] <oddchild> stefano__, does it connect when you startup?
[20:46] <Cann0n> steven__, not to sure, but i'd imagine you need to go into the "fstab" direction.
[20:46] <Stroganoff> wrong CaBa|
[20:46] <oddchild> steven__,  ... i meant
[20:46] <Stroganoff> Cann0n
[20:46] <c3f59d4> 3rd reconfigure the text console resolution
[20:46] <Stroganoff> there are auto mount tools today, stefano__
[20:46] <Cann0n> yes?
[20:46] <Stroganoff> steve__
[20:46] <xim> steven__, are you trying to use it on windows also?
[20:47] <souper> c3f59d4: give me a minute I'll see what i can come up with
[20:47] <genii> ricko12345: Try installing programs with the package manager.eg: Add/Remove Programs
[20:47] <c3f59d4> cool, babe, thx
[20:47] <steven__> cann0n, oddchild,xim, i use it on windows vista as well its my friends im just trying to back my files up to ubuntu
[20:47] <Cann0n> c3f59d4, have you configured your xorg.conf and installed the modules needed?
[20:47] <c3f59d4> i dont know what modules are needed CannOn...
[20:48] <c3f59d4> didnt find no docs
[20:48] <oddchild> steve__,  does it notice when you plug it in? what about on startup? i wonder if i have the same problem
[20:48] <Cann0n> c3f59d4, try google?
[20:48] <genii> ricko12345: The only time you should need to compile something is if you can't find it there, or when you can't find a .deb package for it from a reputable place.
[20:48] <oddchild> steven__,  does it notice when you plug it in? what about on startup? i wonder if i have the same problem
[20:48] <xim> steven__ ntfs should auto mount, ive been doing the SAME thing but im trying to replace ntfs with FAT32 so its more compatible, but my HD isnt accepting it easily
[20:48] <c3f59d4> CannOn sure man!
[20:48] <Stroganoff> steven__: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[20:48] <xim> im dealing with it as we speak
[20:49] <Chris|> how do i delete or uncomment the tty's from starting?
[20:49] <Chris|> i only want 2 tty's running
[20:49] <corinne_> steven_" are you on a toshiba satellite
[20:49] <oddchild> steven__,  have you tried using sudo mount -a
[20:50] <corinne_> oddchild: same question
[20:50] <ricko12345> not all the stuff i download is .deb
[20:50] <steven__> oddchild, xim, stroganoff, the system recognizes it but it won't let me access the files does it have something to do with the fact that its in a windows format
[20:50] <ricko12345> it is source
[20:50] <steven__> oddchild no i haven't
[20:50] <ubuntu2> i installed java but it says missing plugin? how can i start java?
[20:50] <oddchild> corinne_,  mine starts on startup but shuts down .. then doesnt work again.. usbs do not work unless they are plugged into begin with
[20:50] <Stroganoff> steven__ are you using windows real time file compression?
[20:50] <steven__> oddchild, i put that command but nothing happen
[20:50] <steven__> stroganoff, i dunno what that is
[20:50] <corinne_> steven and oddchild, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5684
[20:50] <xim> steven__ do you mean it recognizes it as a device or it actually mounts
[20:51] <Jordan_U> ricko12345, What is it that you need to install that isn't available in the default repositories ( Add Remove / Synaptic ) ?
[20:51] <steven__> xim, i don't see it at all actually
[20:51] <ricko12345> the only version i can find for unrar is source not .deb
[20:51] <jrib> ubuntu2: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin'
[20:51] <Stroganoff> steven__ MORE INPUT
[20:51] <Stroganoff> !elaborate
[20:51] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[20:51] <oddchild> corinne_, AFS? ... i dont understand
[20:51] <jrib> ricko12345: have you enable the multiverse repository
[20:51] <ricko12345> also if i have .deb on desktop how do i install it with synaptic
[20:51] <Jordan_U> ricko12345, unrar is available in the default repositories, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[20:52] <WhipsMcGee> is there a place that shows what packages I've got installed and how to remove them?  I want to remove netpbm
[20:52] <jrib> Chris|: look at /etc/event.d/tty*  Check the upstart notification to see how to properly stop those from getting executed
[20:52] <Chris|> ricko12345 open the deb with gdebi
[20:52] <Chris|> ok thanks jrib
[20:52] <jrib> !upstart > Chris| (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:52] <steven__> stroganoff, xim, oddchild, I'm trying to connect a mass usb storage device to my ubuntu partition i have a dual boot with windows vista, the usb drive is in windows format im trying to get it to mount and access the files inside how do i do this
[20:52] <Jordan_U> ricko12345, Or run "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[20:52] <jrib> Chris|: (I don't know if there is a cleaner way than just removing them)
[20:53] <WhipsMcGee> n/m found it
[20:53] <Chris|> yeah thats just what i want to do
[20:53] <Jordan_U> ricko12345, *always* check add remove / synaptic first
[20:53] <oddchild> steven__, what does it do when you start up?
[20:53] <ross`_> can someone tell me how to set which display modes can be used?
[20:53] <xim> steven__ ok do "sudo apt-get install lsscsi"  and then do "lsscsi"
[20:53] <steven__> oddchild, nothing at all it seems like its not being recognized
[20:53] <souper> c3f59d4: I think this might help with your touchscreen problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327554
[20:54] <Cann0n> Jordan_U, you don't have to check those first. most of the time, its easier to type apt-get and the package name than is it to locate it.
[20:54] <Chris|> jrib just delete the tty's i dont want running?
[20:54] <oddchild> steven__,  are you in 7.10?
[20:54] <steven__> oddchild yes
[20:54] <steven__> xim im gonna do that now
[20:54] <biabia> if i install xubuntu 7.04 i can upgrade then to 7.10?
[20:54] <biabia> i have the 7.04 disk handy
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Cann0n, I know, but right now he is searching on the internet and just finding source packages.
[20:54] <oddchild> biabia,  yeah it is easy
[20:54] <ross`_> can someone tell me how to set which display modes can be used please
[20:54] <biabia> ok
[20:55] <biabia> thankie
[20:55] <jrib> Chris|: probably best to back them up somewhere.  If you look inside, you can probably just comment the line that tells it to run on runlevel 2.  Again, I'm not really familiar with upstart, so at least glance through their docs
[20:55] <Lamego> biabia, yes, but it would be preferable to installl 7.10 from a fresh install, it should take the same bandwidth as doing the upgrade
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Chris|, What's the point in removing the ttys?
[20:55] <b47619> !hardy
[20:55] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:55] <c3f59d4> souper thx man! ill follow that through
[20:55] <Chris|> Jordan_U i heard that the tty's arent never used, only 2 or 3 would be needed
[20:55] <ross`_> ubotu resolution
[20:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:55] <Cann0n> Jordan_U, true. i wasnt familiar with apt-get when i started with ubuntu, and i had been running slackware for years.
[20:55] <xim> steven__ lsscsi lists your scsi devices, tell us if the device is listed and what its name is (ex /dev/sdg)
[20:55] <steven__> xim,  disk    ATA      HTS541060G9AT00  MB3W  /dev/sda
[20:56] <xim> thats your primary hard drive
[20:56] <wonsnot> hello
[20:56] <steven__> is it?
[20:56] <steven__> ok then nothign shows up
[20:56] <xim> only that one?
[20:56] <souper> c3f59d4: no problem
[20:56] <steven__> the other thing is my cd drive
[20:56] <wonsnot> im new here
[20:56] <ross`_> ubotu changing resolutions to be used
[20:56] <steven__>  disk    ATA      HTS541060G9AT00  MB3W  /dev/sda
[20:56] <Lamego> Chris|, tty's don't use much resources
[20:56] <ross`_> grr
[20:56] <ross`_> ubotu changing set resolutions
[20:57] <ross`_> can someone help me here!!
[20:57] <Chris|> i want to conserve everything i can get
[20:57] <noAUdio> I am having problems where my headphone and speakers have audio coming out at the same time... i read on the forum to update to the newest alsa drivers but that iddnt resolve anything.. Can anyone pleae help me!?????
[20:57] <xim> steven__ the letter at the end 'a' like /dev/sda it gives those letters out in order i think, if its not even listing your HD as a device, im not sure you should probably make a post on ubuntuforums.org
[20:57] <wonsnot> is there a build that supports pre 1999 bios?
[20:57] <dlx> i'm using autofs on a debian etch system to mount a nfs share of a ubuntu system. so far this works great. but if the mount point is the current directory and i shut the nfs server down, there is no way to recover. Is there any way to handle this gracefully?
[20:57] <Cann0n> noAUdio, double click on your volume tray icon
[20:57] <biabia> oddchild thanks
[20:57] <biabia> and Lamego  good point
[20:58] <steven__> xim, that sucks so my plan B is sharing files with vista and ubuntu how do i do that?
[20:58] <noAUdio> Cann0n: ok ?
[20:58] <corinne_> oddchild: that fix helped me with my speakers, so it might help.
[20:58] <Cann0n> noAUdio, then in edit > preference, look for an option labeled "headphone jack sense"
[20:58] <corinne_> I'm trying to fi gure out how to install w32codecs
[20:58] <oddchild> corinne_,  ah okay
[20:58] <jrib> !w32codecs > corinne_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:58] <wonsnot> is there somewhere i can go to get an older build of ubuntu?
[20:58] <jrib> WhipsMcGee: why? ...
[20:59] <catfishlollipop> how do I get this package?  "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server"
[20:59] <ricko12345> jordan when i type sudo apt-get install unrar it says unrar has no installation canidate
[20:59] <Lamego> catfishlollipop, from the repositories ?
[20:59] <ricko12345> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:59] <ricko12345> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[20:59] <ricko12345> is only available from another source
[20:59] <Cann0n> noAUdio, did that fix it?
[21:00] <jrib> ricko12345: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable Multiverse.  Please do not paste in the channel
[21:00] <steven__> how do you share files between vista and ubuntu
[21:00] <Lamego> ricko12345, the multiverse needs to be enabled
[21:00] <Lamego> stefano__, using samba
[21:00] <catfishlollipop> Lamego, I tried to do apt-get and it said it couldnt find the package
[21:01] <ricko12345> i cant see software sources
[21:01] <jrib> ricko12345: what version of ubuntu?
[21:01] <jrib> !version | ricko12345
[21:01] <catfishlollipop> gutsy
[21:01] <ubotu> ricko12345: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[21:01]  * IndyGunFreak sees dead peo[ple, but no sources
[21:01] <ricko12345> 5.10 daper
[21:01] <komplott> ing
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> ricko12345: you have an amazing distro, it doesn't exist
[21:01] <jrib> ricko12345: please run the command that ubotu just gave you
[21:01] <coleosis> Here's a question for you, at school I can access Windows shares via the network just by typing in the computer name, for example: \\COMPNAME, Is there a similar way I can access these shares from Ubuntu?
[21:02] <corinne_> I'm having the same problem as ricko12345, but with w32codecs
[21:02] <steven__> how do you share files between vista and ubuntu
[21:02] <Liorc> same network ?
[21:02] <jrib> corinne_: did you read what ubotu sent you?
[21:02] <ricko12345> the sudo command
[21:02] <xim> steven__ check my pm
[21:02] <danand_> coleosis - yes. with smbmount command - smbmount //server/share /mountpoint
[21:02] <souper> coleosis: you need samba installed and you can access them by smb://
[21:03] <coleosis> yea
[21:03] <jrib> ricko12345: lsb_release -a
[21:03] <coleosis> thanks guys for the help
[21:03] <urlwolf> I'm backwards from most people
[21:03] <genii> coleosis: in file browser, smb://workgroupname              or smb://computername
[21:03] <danand_> coleosis - install smbfs to do that command from a cli
[21:03] <urlwolf> I have a fonts problem
[21:03] <Liorc> try use Places --> Network you might see vista on the same lan
[21:03] <urlwolf> but not an OS fonts problem
[21:03] <corinne_> jrib: A-HA!  I will try that, thank you! :D
[21:03] <mirak> is there a way to copy a ntfs partitions to another ntfs partition ?
[21:03] <urlwolf> It's netbeans (a swing application)
[21:03] <genii> souper: smbclient only
[21:03] <steven__> xim, i didn't get your pm
[21:03] <genii> which is on default install
[21:04] <urlwolf> The damn thing doesn't see the fonts I have installed on my system
[21:04] <ricko12345> lsb version:    n/a
[21:04] <coleosis> You guys are life savers.
[21:04] <souper> if you don't want to share folders to windows computers
[21:04] <xim> does it say my name on the left?
[21:04] <urlwolf> anyone knows a workaround?
[21:04] <Ace2016> look at the xorg on my desktop, i can't keep switching from my laptop to my desktop constantly
[21:04] <Ace2016> woops wrong tab
[21:04] <roland> hello!
[21:04] <xim> steven__  im sortof a beginner too, im just going through something similiar as you, i think vista has a new file system called WinFS that linux probably cant read yet (i havent researched this) otherwise you could probably just mount your vista partition in linux, NTFS will work in linux tho although it gets REAL pissy if you dont safely remove hardware before you plug into linux, but someone should be able to help
[21:04] <Scunizi> urlwolf, sudo fc-cache -f -v
[21:04] <xim>  you if you make a post describing what your trying to do and maybe also what you got from lsscsi
[21:04] <xim>  the forums are really better than IRC IMO, lots of really knowledgable people that can tell you exactly what to do if you just ask, usually within a day
[21:04] <urlwolf> I did that
[21:05] <roland> im facing a DCOP server issue.. i went to #kubuntu.. they pointed me back here since im an UBUNTU user..
[21:05] <Scunizi> urlwolf, where did you put any new fonts that you need access to?
[21:05] <urlwolf> it'll refresh the fonts for the system
[21:05] <Lamego> xim, you are wrong, Vista uses NTFS
[21:05] <souper> xim: samba can communicate with my vista computers... vista still uses ntfs
[21:05] <urlwolf> but not for hava apps
[21:05] <urlwolf> I wonder why that is
[21:05] <xim> oh ok like i said i hadnt reasearched it
[21:05] <corinne_> jrib: wow, this is complicated...
[21:05] <urlwolf> s/hava/java/
[21:05] <ubuntu2> jrib bash: apt-cache: command not found
[21:05] <greasy_leftwing> xim: this is true
[21:05] <ubuntu2> i installed java but it says missing plugin? how can i start java?
[21:05] <trend> anyone have antivirus recommendations for my fileserver to scan my windows files?
[21:06] <jrib> corinne_: really?  What are you reading exactly?
[21:06] <greasy_leftwing> you can mount using ntfs-3g
[21:06] <steven__> xim, thank you i wish i could find a way to do this easier haha
[21:06] <Cann0n> but vista is still very glitchy.
[21:06] <Lamego> trend, clamav
[21:06] <jrib> ubuntu2: erm.  What distribution are you using?
[21:06] <ricko12345> i ran sudo apt-get install unrar but i got error
[21:06] <danand_> trend - clamav?
[21:06] <ubuntu2> jrib sus
[21:06] <trend> clamav doesn't do filesystem scanning anymore.. just antivirus
[21:06] <urlwolf> any java wiz here?
[21:06] <jrib> ricko12345: did you enable multiverse?
[21:06] <trend> i mean email
[21:06] <gnuskool> i got LAMP, phpmyadmin running, but when i try install a cms with the index.php file it keeps re-opening the file in mozilla, help
[21:06] <trend> heh
[21:06] <Cann0n> ricko12345, check your source file
[21:06] <jrib> ubuntu2: suse?
[21:06] <Lamego> ricko12345, have you enabled the repository as described
[21:06] <ubuntu2> yea
[21:07] <Scunizi> urlwolf, you should put additional fonts in /home/<username>/.fonts
[21:07] <jrib> ubuntu2: /join #suse
[21:07] <xim> sure, you gotta make friends with the forums tho dude its really helpful once you get registered
[21:07] <urlwolf> I don't understand where java grabs its fonts
[21:07] <ubuntu2> jrib banned from there
[21:07] <jrib> ubuntu2: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[21:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: lol, well then you have a serious problem
[21:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: maybe #linux
[21:07] <corinne_> jrib: wait, I think I've got it.  http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/gutsy-seveas/
[21:07] <urlwolf> not from standard locations it seems
[21:07] <ricko12345> i cant find software sources
[21:07] <Scunizi> urlwolf, probably from where they are register in the system..
[21:08] <urlwolf> ok
[21:08] <Scunizi> !fonts | urlwolf
[21:08] <ubotu> urlwolf: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[21:08] <Malik_> can some1 help me out with the partioning part in the ubuntu installation
[21:08] <trend> maybe I am wrong about clamav.. but clamav.org says just email scanning
[21:08] <Malik_> i kinda screwed it all up
[21:08] <jrib> ricko12345: oh right.  I asked you to run 'lsb_release -a' and tell me the output
[21:08] <jrib> !who | ricko12345
[21:08] <ubotu> ricko12345: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:08] <danand_> ricko12345 - check your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[21:08] <urlwolf> my terminal, all other apps etc show any new fonts I add after doing  fc-cache -f -v
[21:08] <Malik_> can some1 help me out?
[21:08] <urlwolf> but Netbeans won't
[21:08] <jrib> corinne_: yes, that is one way
[21:08] <TheGhostRiDER> Hi.
[21:08] <Liorc> yea Malik what you need ?
[21:08] <Malik_> i kinda need a guide for a few secs
[21:08] <TheGhostRiDER> I cannot run any programs on this newuser I made.
[21:08] <urlwolf> they show completely unrelated lists of fonts
[21:08] <jrib> corinne_: but the wiki page has the instructions for actually using it
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> ricko12345: just system/admin/software repositories, and check all the boxes(assujming you have a GUI)
[21:08] <Malik_> i hav a 40 gb hd
[21:09] <Malik_> with xp on it
[21:09] <Malik_> and i am installing ubuntu
[21:09] <TheGhostRiDER> How do I fix this?
[21:09] <Liorc> how many partition you have ?
[21:09] <Malik_> rite now i hav 2 partioins
[21:09] <Ward1983> Malik_, its best to just ask your question :)
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | Malik_
[21:09] <ubotu> Malik_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:09] <wirrwarr> hum
[21:09] <Malik_> alrite
[21:09] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: be more specific as to what exactly you did and what the outcome was (pick some program that is not working)
[21:09] <ricko12345> it says 5.10
[21:09] <Scunizi> urlwolf, maybe netbeans has something in its .conf file that describes where to look for the fonts it uses.
[21:09] <Malik_> i see 7 partins
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> ricko12345: thats a very dated distro.
[21:09] <jrib> ricko12345: 5.10 is no longer supported, you need to upgrade
[21:09] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: im trying to run iroffer
[21:09] <Malik_> and i only had 2 but i messed up
[21:09] <urlwolf> for example I have a font in netbeans called DialogInput
[21:10] <Malik_> how can i figure out which is which
[21:10] <urlwolf> that is nowhere to be found in my system
[21:10] <ricko12345> damn
[21:10] <urlwolf> it must come with java
[21:10] <Malik_> i wana restart the install and do a fresh 1
[21:10] <TheGhostRiDER> Like I said, I made a new user and I cant even sudo
[21:10] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: I have no idea what that is.  Is there no default application that is not working?
[21:10] <Malik_> and put my partioins back to normal
[21:10] <Scunizi> urlwolf, try sudo updatedb then locate DialogInput
[21:10] <Malik_> how can i find otu which hav xp on them
[21:10] <Liorc> Malik_ : are you in live CD ?
[21:10] <Ward1983> Malik_, mount them with the ubuntu live CD to make sure, and prey you didnt mess up too bad
[21:10] <Malik_> yes iam in live cd
[21:10] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: new users can only sudo if you add them to the admin group
[21:10] <corinne_> jrib: I'm not sure what to do on this page.
[21:10] <Cann0n> Malik_, dual booting?
[21:10] <TheGhostRiDER> hold on
[21:10] <Malik_> yes
[21:11] <danand_> Malik_ - run sudo fdisk -l to see your current disk partitions
[21:11] <jrib> corinne_: link me to the page you are reading (ubotu made 2 different suggestions)
[21:11] <greasy_leftwing> this is gettin messy
[21:11] <Malik_> i see my current partioins
[21:11] <corinne_> jrib: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[21:11] <Malik_> and there r 7
[21:11] <danand_> Malik_ - the ones that say NTFS will be your Windows partitions
[21:11] <Malik_> where there should be 2
[21:11] <Malik_> o okay
[21:11] <Malik_> but i only see 1 nts
[21:11] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: how
[21:11] <urlwolf> the fonts I install are in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/custom
[21:11] <urlwolf> ie consolas
[21:11] <IndyGunFreak> Malik_: so what are all the other ones?
[21:11] <Malik_> there should be 2 nts cause i ahd to winodws partioins
[21:12] <jrib> corinne_: use medibuntu, the instructions are probably easier to follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[21:12] <danand_> Malik_ - pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[21:12] <Cann0n> Malik_, when i dual booted windows xp and gutsy, i had 4
[21:12] <jake2point0> how can i tell if im registered
[21:12] <Scunizi> urlwolf, have you looked in ~/.fonts ?
[21:12] <Ward1983> Malik_, please pastebin what fdisk -l returned
[21:12] <Malik_> how else can i find otu which is windows
[21:12] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: System -> Administration -> Users and groups  and give your new user administrative permissions
[21:12] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: im doing this all through a terminal
[21:12] <danand_> Malik_ - do you know how to use pastebin?
[21:12] <Ward1983> Malik_, paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:12] <Malik_> no
[21:13] <Ward1983> now he does :)
[21:13] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: as your original user, "sudo adduser NEW_USER admin"
[21:13] <danand_> !pastebin | Malik_
[21:13] <Malik_> iam starting all over
[21:13] <ubotu> Malik_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:13] <TheGhostRiDER> k
[21:13] <corinne_> jrib: "Resolving www.medibuntu.org... failed: Name or service not known."
[21:13] <Cann0n> Malik_, NTFS is windows xp and vista
[21:13] <urlwolf> I have no /.fonts
[21:13] <gregory> corinne_: i am just downloading the updates. 15 more minutes.. and the also the rm. stay tuned! ;-)
[21:13] <TheGhostRiDER> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[21:13] <Malik_> and the swap r wat ubuntu created rite
[21:13] <jrib> corinne_: you need to give me context.  What did you do to receive that error?
[21:13] <corinne_> gregory: thank you!
[21:13] <Scunizi> urlwolf, you have to /home/<name>/.fonts otherwise it won't cd
[21:13] <Lasivian> any recommendations on best wifi chipset for Ubuntu? The HCL lists several, but doesn't rate them really
[21:13] <souper> TheGhostRiDER: what about group sudo?
[21:13] <corinne_> jrib: I wrote "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[21:14] <Ward1983> Lasivian, i would recommand anything atheros based
[21:14] <Ward1983> recommand
[21:14] <Ward1983> end
[21:14] <Ward1983> lol
[21:14] <Lasivian> thanks :)
[21:14] <IndyGunFreak> i just checked my XP/Gutsy machine, I have 1 NTFSS(25gigs), 1 Linux(ext 3, 220gigs), 1 extended(3gigs), 1 swap(3gigs)
[21:14] <ubuntu2> how do i install sun-java6-plugin in suse?
[21:14] <Ward1983> ffs
[21:14] <jrib> corinne_: is your comuter connected to the internet?  Can you visit http://www.medibuntu.org in a browser on that computer?
[21:14] <Lasivian> my Hermes 2 card can't do monitor mode, so I gotta replace it
[21:14] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: you've been told repeatedly this is not suse support.. if you're banned from suse, ask in #linux
[21:14] <Ward1983> ubuntu2, does this look like a suse channel???
[21:14] <Cann0n> malik, did you get my private message?
[21:14] <Scunizi> ubuntu2, ask in #suse?
[21:14] <Lamego> ubuntu2, please stop doing suse questions here, you have been warned already
[21:14] <Cann0n> Malik_,  did you get my private message?
[21:14] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: he is banned from there, i'm beginning to understand why
[21:14] <souper> lol
[21:14] <Ward1983> lol
[21:15] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, I guess :/
[21:15] <gligorhoria> hey guys i think the ubotu should talk aboute "itself" at the third person, because a lot of persones (new persons) are confused when he replys
[21:15] <urlwolf> ok
[21:15] <ubuntu2> i am fcn banned from there
[21:15] <roland> any1 faced a dcopserver error ?
[21:15] <thesurvivorman> he probably was asking ubuntu questions there
[21:15] <urlwolf> looking at the conf file for netbeans
[21:15] <urlwolf> I have -Dswing.useSystemFontSettings=true
[21:15] <corinne_> jrib: yes, which is why I'm a bit confused
[21:15] <Malik_> cann0n: i did
[21:15] <urlwolf> so it must be looking
[21:15] <jrib> ubuntu2: you're offtopic here
[21:15] <Ward1983> ubuntu2, well nobody will help you here... ask them to unban you
[21:15] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: well maybe you should do as suggested ask in #linux, or switch to a distro  you can use
[21:15] <gligorhoria> now who can help me with some kernel isues
[21:15] <urlwolf> but who knows where, because it doesn't find fonts
[21:15] <ubuntu2> it will take too long
[21:15] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: command not found
[21:16] <Cann0n> i'll will walk you through it
[21:16] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: what did you type?
[21:16] <TheGhostRiDER> sudo group
[21:16] <ubuntu2> why are you people so selfish
[21:16] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: that's not what I said though :/
[21:16] <ubuntu2> is suse your enemy?
[21:16] <Lamego> TheGhostRiDER, sudo usermod -g admin user
[21:16] <TheGhostRiDER> what did you say?
[21:16] <TheGhostRiDER> ok
[21:16] <Malik_> can0n: private
[21:16] <Liorc> nah but its ubuntu chat lol
[21:16] <greasy_leftwing> how do I install the grubnuts-loop-transverter in mandrake?
[21:16] <thesurvivorman> and yes, suse killed my father
[21:16] <jrib> ubuntu2: stay on topic or I will have to ban you here as well.  The topic is *ubuntu* support
[21:16] <souper> TheGhostRiDER: That's what i said but i didn't mean to type it as a command i meant to try and add the user to the sudo group
[21:16] <danand_> gligorhoria - read up on that kernel interupts timing. Unfortunately thats not configurable on the fly - its set in the config when you compile the kernel.
[21:17] <TheGhostRiDER> usermod: unknown group admin
[21:17] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: as your original user, "sudo adduser NEW_USER admin"
[21:17] <ubuntu2> what is ubuntu?
[21:17] <Cann0n> Malik_, I am, you aren't replying.
[21:17] <TheGhostRiDER> i am!
[21:17] <gligorhoria> i have a kernell panic, non synking, nenory fail to write or something, i get there erros at high loads, should i change my ram?
[21:17] <TheGhostRiDER> im in root
[21:17] <jrib> !ubuntu | ubuntu2
[21:17] <ubotu> ubuntu2: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[21:17] <rwycuff> ubuntu2: suse is very different from ubuntu you would pry get more helpin say #centos or #fedora then here
[21:17] <Malik_> iam
[21:17] <urlwolf> ok I have a ~/.fontconfig/ folder
[21:17] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: what distribution is this?
[21:17] <urlwolf> not a .fonts
[21:17] <Malik_> can0n: i replyed
[21:17] <Lamego> TheGhostRiDER, you don't have an admin group ? are you able to sudo with other users ?
[21:17] <Scunizi> ubuntu2, maybe we can't support it because we're not aware of how it's packagning system works, or what's in it's repos or may it just because were too busy supporting UBUNTU
[21:17] <roland> any1 faced a dcopserver error ?
[21:17] <Ward1983> Cann0n, Malik_ you need to register to be able to send PMs
[21:18] <Malik_> u do?
[21:18] <IndyGunFreak> Malik_: gotta be registered to pm
[21:18] <Ward1983> Malik_, yes :)
[21:18] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: ubuntu 7.10 i believe
[21:18] <IndyGunFreak> Malik_: the two of you can just join a private room, its not that difficult
[21:18] <Ward1983> Malik_, jsut register your nickname :)
[21:18] <Cann0n> Ward1983, oh, didnt think about that. i am registered. :)
[21:18] <Malik_> can0n: iam not rigestered
[21:18] <TheGhostRiDER> Lamego: nope
[21:18] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: what does "lsb_release -c" return?
[21:18] <Ward1983> Cann0n, i know thats why i used highlight to make sure you read it :)
[21:18] <TheGhostRiDER> gutsy
[21:18] <IndyGunFreak> Cann0n: just make a channel and the two of you go there, thats the easiest thing w/ an unreg'd user
[21:18] <Bob_Dole> wait, ubuntu2 wants help with SuSe, so why doesn't he go to #SuSe?
[21:19] <Scunizi> banned?
[21:19] <Ward1983> Bob_Dole, hes banned there
[21:19] <ubuntu2> yes
[21:19] <souper> TheGhostRiDER: have you tried  "sudo adduser NEW_USER sudo"   ?
[21:19] <IndyGunFreak> Bob_Dole: he's banned
[21:19] <greasy_leftwing> he's banned from there apparently
[21:19] <ubuntu2> banned
[21:19] <Bob_Dole> Lol
[21:19] <Flare183> brb
[21:19] <Malik_> can0n: jus gimme a second to check sometin and tthen u can help me witht he partioning
[21:19] <Flare183> !lol | Bob_Dole
[21:19] <ubotu> Bob_Dole: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[21:19] <TheGhostRiDER> hold o
[21:19] <ubuntu2> and ven if ai am unbanned it takes too long
[21:19] <TheGhostRiDER> n
[21:19] <gligorhoria> danand_ ty, that is most helphul information, i am surprised to get an answer from u today, don't get me wrong it is still verry usefull, the thing is now that i'm having problems whith compiling the kernel... ty again
[21:19] <Lamego> TheGhostRiDER, if you have removed the admin group you will need to boot into rescue mode, recreate the group and add the users to the group
[21:19]  * IndyGunFreak thinks Bob_Dole is a bit slow on the uptake..lol
[21:19] <Bob_Dole> So, I use it once, and that is a regular basis.
[21:19] <Bob_Dole> I've been AFR.
[21:19] <greasy_leftwing> why are you banned? and if so, why come to us? are you selling big issue or summt?
[21:19] <TheGhostRiDER> Lamego: i never touched it
[21:19] <Cann0n> Malik_, join #Cann0n
[21:19] <Bob_Dole> and also I don't type very well, stiff hands and such.
[21:20] <danand_> gligorhoria - np :) sorry to hear about kernel compile problem :(
[21:20] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: worked
[21:20] <jrib> greasy_leftwing: please don't discuss it here anymore
[21:20] <greasy_leftwing> kk
[21:20] <Malik_> alrite
[21:20] <greasy_leftwing> that was a bit overboard, my apologies
[21:21] <RototoR> Hi! I`m trying to configure LDAP+Samba. But OpenLDAP doesn`t read in samba.schema, at least it does not allow to create samba user accounts (using phpLDAPadmin) and the samba schema entries don`t show up in the schema display of phpLDAPadmin. Any clue how I can debug this?
[21:21] <gligorhoria> danand_ right at the end it gives me somme errors but that was on debian, i changed to ubuntu server (the thing is i doesn't give me kernell panics on debian...)
[21:22] <corinne_> jrib: WHOA.  I just tried the exact same thing again and it worked this tim e
[21:22] <urlwolf> one more clue: using sdk6 does get some more fonts
[21:22] <urlwolf> if I use sdk5, it offers only about 10 (all horrible for programming)
[21:22] <gligorhoria> danand_ any way i will post the info from the server in a way or another so i can get a better feedback
[21:22] <ubuntu2> i an settleing and relaxing
[21:22] <urlwolf> (in netbeans you can chose which java sdk to use)
[21:22] <urlwolf> to run the IDE
[21:22] <danand_> gligorhoria - k
[21:23] <gligorhoria> danand_ the sistem is froze so i can't copy paste ...
[21:23] <Malik_> can u install windows on top of ubuntu or do u hav install windows first and then linux????
[21:23] <zenlunatic> did 8.04 beta come out today?
[21:23] <Lamego> Malik_, if you install windows after you will need to restore grub
[21:24] <gligorhoria> Malik_ it is easier to install windows first
[21:24] <Malik_> wats grub?
[21:24] <Lamego> zenlunatic, for hardy questions, go to #ubuntu+1
[21:24] <Flare183> i'm back
[21:24] <gligorhoria> !grub
[21:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:24] <ubuntu2> why does it take too long to get help
[21:24] <Trance_Music> ||||||||||||||||HI EVERYBODY :)||||||||||||||||
[21:24] <jrib> Trance_Music: please do not do that
[21:25] <gligorhoria> ubuntu2 we are not paid for this don't be rood
[21:25] <ubuntu2> ood is not a word
[21:25] <ubuntu2> rood
[21:25] <jrib> corinne_: good
[21:25] <Trance_Music> BETTER?
[21:25] <Lamego> Trance_Music, lower your CAPS
 BETTER?
[21:25] <gligorhoria> ok don't be an ass
[21:26] <alpha123456> anybody know how i can sort this out?    i have somehow run or installed ubuntu on my mac os x.       ubuntu runs from the live cd no problem.          but now i cannot boot 'os x'  anymore.          my mac doesnt recognise any of the boot commands.  or the 'os x' disk.             when i reboot without the ubuntu live cd, i just get an error saying 'grub hard disk error'.   with the live cd ubuntu starts up.   i think its because i changed the startup di
[21:26]  * IndyGunFreak laughs at jrib's abuse of OP powers..lol
[21:26] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: it still doesnt work for me
[21:26] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: what was the output of 'lsb_release -c'?
[21:26] <jrib> !caps | Trance_Music
[21:26] <ubotu> Trance_Music: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:26] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, use is not abuse
[21:26] <TheGhostRiDER> gutsy
[21:27] <jrib> !guidelines > Trance_Music (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:27] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: it was a joke.... i don't think jrib took it seriously, or i'd be gone, take a paxil
[21:27] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: 'grep admin /etc/group' returns what?
[21:27] <poamj> Hi there. Does anybody know how i can configure the fonts for kde applications on ubuntu (I am using gnome). I've downloaded qt3-config and qt4-config and configured the font size and style in both, however i can't see the results on applications like Kile and Ktorrent.
 NOW I CAN?
[21:27] <Trance_Music> UPS
[21:27] <Trance_Music> SORRY
[21:27] <gligorhoria> alpha123456 u might try to mount the last disk in ubuntu live and reset the grub loader (use fdisk -l to see if the hard disks show up)
[21:27] <ubuntu2> i recieved 3 ubuntu cds and they were all defective? why? is it becasue my name sucked?
[21:27] <juank_prada> when is beta being released?
[21:28] <jrib> Trance_Music: I'm going to have to ban you, which is a pain because I don't have a script setup for this client yet
[21:28] <corinne_> jrib:juank_prada: april
[21:28] <Lamego> juank_prada, for ubuntu hardy, join #ubuntu+1
[21:28] <corinne_> oops
[21:28] <TheGhostRiDER> jrib: nothing
[21:28] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: could just be your hardware doesn't cooperate w/ the live CD, it happens
[21:28] <juank_prada> thanks
[21:28] <gligorhoria> ubuntu2 it seems u have an internet conection, why don't u download them?
[21:28] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: weird.  Can you pastebin what /etc/group does look like?
[21:28] <ubuntu2> IndyGunFreak i check with back of the cd and it was all out of shape recording
[21:28] <Trance_Music> I DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH VERY GOOD jrib
[21:29] <TheGhostRiDER> root@kingnetcodingnetwork:~# grep admin /etc/group
[21:29] <TheGhostRiDER> root@kingnetcodingnetwork:~#
[21:29] <ubuntu2> gligorhoria becasue i don't want to download stupid 7000 mb of files
[21:29] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: i really don't know.. burn it yourself then
[21:29] <TheGhostRiDER> thats what happens.
[21:29] <alpha123456> any chance of a bit more detail... i'm kinda stuck... being a new bie an all
[21:29] <IndyGunFreak> Trance_Music: then join the ubuntu support channel in your native tongue, yhou're just gonna get banned here.;
[21:29] <Gloo> hi. i need a chatscript for my sony ericsson w890 mobile phone. trying to configure my ppp bluetooth connection. anyone who can help me out?
[21:29] <danand_> TheGhostRiDER - can you pastebin your /etc/groups file?
[21:29] <gligorhoria> ubuntu2 as u can see everybody is sugesting the same thing!
[21:30] <Finnish> How can I receive/download all mail from GMail to Evolution/my computer?
[21:30] <IndyGunFreak> gligorhoria: well, you'll learn here, that means the person just keeps asking until they get the answer they want
[21:30] <ubuntu2> gligorhoria i think they did it on porpose. it was well planned
[21:30] <ubuntu2> i think they did it on purpose. it was well planned
[21:30] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu2: ?  on purpose?
[21:30] <Lamego> Finnish, you will need to configure the POP3 account for it, not sure if there are instructions for evolution on the gmails page
[21:30] <ubuntu2> yes
[21:30] <ubuntu2> why did they do it
[21:30] <henryvps> where can i find a some old repository where could be mysql-query-browser 5.0 r6?
[21:31] <gregory> Finnish: you could use "POP3" if its new for you just read on wikipedia..
[21:31] <gligorhoria> IndyGunFreak ty i will shut my piehole :D
[21:31] <roland> dcopserver any1!?
[21:31] <Lamego> could someone shutup ubuntu2 ?
[21:31] <thesurvivorman> i can help finnish... pm if you want
[21:31] <souper> evolution supports IMAP right?
[21:31] <ani1> Lamego: /ignore
[21:31] <IndyGunFreak> hm.. i bet they mailed your CD's to to the russian space station, set burned it there, knowing it would not work, then beamed the image down, and it was burned by nasa, and mailed to you.. all those steps, you can only expect problems
[21:31] <Rym> Hmm i cant seem to get my sound to work on gutsy
[21:31] <gligorhoria> ani1 ty :D
[21:31] <TheGhostRiDER> http://pastebin.ca/950832
[21:31] <Rym> well it used to work, now it keeps saying the device is in use
[21:31] <Lamego> henryvps, the last time I checked mysql provide it on a binary package, it should be as simple as untar and run
[21:32] <Lamego> ani1, that doesnt work for all the useless talk on the channel
[21:32] <Rym> also skype keeps saying that thereś something wrong with my capture device (before the deviec in use problem)
[21:32] <HelpWithWine> I'm on a widescreen laptop: can someone tell me how to make games run in 640x480 without cutting off the bottom of the screen?
[21:32] <zenlunatic> Lamego: thanks
[21:32] <ubuntu2> Lamego f u
[21:32] <roland> dcopserver any1!?
[21:32] <ubuntu2> Lamego fcn
[21:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[21:32] <IndyGunFreak> bye bye ubuntu2
[21:33] <Lamego> !ops
[21:33] <gregory> ubuntu2: watch you language, please
[21:33] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[21:33] <ubuntu2> Lamego nerd
[21:33] <jrib> p',/opme
[21:33] <Jonjonbt> Hey
[21:33] <IndyGunFreak> thank goodness
[21:33] <gligorhoria> jrib: ty
[21:33] <corinne_> ani1: thanks!
[21:33] <Isrefel> BUenas noches
[21:34] <Jonjonbt> What Windows files should I back up if I want to dual-boot?
[21:34] <Lamego> !es | Isrefel
[21:34] <ubotu> Isrefel: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:34] <Finnish> thesurvivorman: Help needed...
[21:34] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> does any1 know why the beta1 of hardy heron?
[21:34] <gligorhoria> Jonjonbt the ones that u need later on in case of system crash (data loss)
[21:34] <PeterGriffin> hi all !
[21:34] <IndyGunFreak> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR: its not beta yet
[21:34] <IndyGunFreak> !hardy | YgorAbreu_ESP_BR
[21:34] <ubotu> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:35] <Jonjonbt> so like WINDOWS and Documents and Settings?
[21:35] <ani1> Jonjonbt: theirs not one speicif file anything you deem important
[21:35] <ani1> specific*
[21:35] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: reboot in recovery mode and see if your /etc/sudoers says anything about "admin".  Write down the line, come back, and tell us
[21:35] <Jonjonbt> Not really
[21:35] <PeterGriffin> can somebody help me ? i have this problem with wine : err:advapi:service_get_status service protocol error - failed to read pipe r = 0  count = 0!
[21:35] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> IndyGunFreak: not beta? so this page is fake? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Beta
[21:36] <roland> dcopserver any1!? help
[21:36] <IndyGunFreak> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR: that is alpha, not beta..
[21:36] <gligorhoria> Jonjonbt the pictues that u have, you documents, stuff on the descktop, music, gamesaves etc...
[21:36] <Jonjonbt> Okay, so Documents and Settings only?
[21:36] <gligorhoria> will there be a hardy server ?
[21:36] <Jonjonbt> It'll save "WINDOWS"?
[21:36] <ani1> Jonjonbt: just take note of the partition and the device name as this is the most likely of situations where you will overwrite your windows install if its a SATA disk its probably /dev/sda1 make swap sda2 and ubuntu sda3 check and write down what its dev name is
[21:36] <gregory> gligorhoria: sure - desktop and server iso
[21:36] <ani1> Jonjonbt: if its on a different disk then unplug that disk if your totally unsure
[21:37] <TheGhostRiDER> k
[21:37] <Lamego> Jonjonbt, you are the only person that can be aware where you have saved your data, the default place is under document and settings
[21:37] <TheGhostRiDER> how to reboot in recovery mode?
[21:37] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> o.O so correct me if im wrong(guess i am) but why is called beta then---?
[21:37] <souper> PeterGriffin: I would suggest joining #wine
[21:37] <Jonjonbt> so "Documents and Settings".
[21:37] <Lamego> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, for questions about hardy, please join #ubuntu+1
[21:37] <Jonjonbt> And that's it?
[21:37] <PeterGriffin> ok souper thanks !
[21:37] <gligorhoria> gregory ok, ty - that's neat :D
[21:37] <ani1> Jonjonbt: again it depends on where you save your data it could be anywhere
[21:37] <amortvigil> what programs i need to run dvd's
[21:37] <Jonjonbt> So it shouldn't delete "WINDOWS"?
[21:38] <ani1> Jonjonbt: not if you dont want to you can dual boot
[21:38] <Lamego> Jonjonbt, your questions is turning a bit off-topic, try ##windows
[21:38] <Dresken> My refresh rate shows a maximum of 65Hz for 1024x768 when my monitor supports up to 87Hz, any idea how I can fix this?
[21:38] <Liorc> amortvigil : totem installed by defaualt can do it
[21:38] <roland> Jonjonbt,  backup up ur prvt data and so on like pics documents etc... then boot with ubuntu and partition ur hdd manualy so u could edit ur partitions to give ur new ubuntu instalation space it needs.. while keepign windows intact... b careful not to over resize ur windows partitins...
[21:38] <bobbo85> Hi all, wondering what I can use to backup my files to DVDs with Ubuntu.  I just installed HUBackup, but nothing happens when I run the command, so I uninstalled it.  Any ideas?
[21:38] <Jonjonbt> And also, should I backup Program Files
[21:38] <aurax> anyone here uses jsvc?
[21:38] <gligorhoria> Jonjonbt all of it man!
[21:38] <ani1> bobbo85: if your just trying to burn i suggest k3b choose dvd data then drag drop and burn
[21:39]  * Jonjonbt doesn't have enough mobile space to hold it all
[21:39] <jrib> TheGhostRiDER: when you reboot, it is a choice in the grub menu
[21:39] <TheGhostRiDER> k
[21:39] <roland> Jonjonbt,  no no need to backup ur documents and settings! just backup ur OWN data... ur PERSONAL files.. windows cant b abcked! u coudl do a recovery cd if ur worried bout ur windows
[21:39] <bobbo85> anil, I'm talking like backing up 20 gb onto DVDs, will k3b do that?
[21:39] <gligorhoria> Jonjonbt think as when u buy a new computer, every file u would want to put on you new computer should be saved
[21:39] <ani1> Jonjonbt: you should probably stop with the same question...burn it to a disk , go buy another disk , go buy an external do whatever it is that is most important to you but you and you alone are the only person to decide that
[21:40] <ani1> bobbo85: you can back it up in chunks its like nero if you use windows if your looking for a whole system back up its a different story
[21:40] <amortvigil> when i mount dvds i get "mount: not a directory"
[21:40] <gligorhoria> ani1 my next answer would have been "yes delte windows" :D
[21:40] <amortvigil> how to fix?
[21:40] <corinne_> jonjonbi: an external drive is a sensible investment anyway, as you can use it to back up your system in the future
[21:41] <Jonjonbt> So the installer probably won't delete anything in "WINDOWS"?
[21:41] <Lamego> amortvigil, you are providing "mount" where you should provide an existing path, for the mount point
[21:41] <ani1> amortvigil: read the mount command its mount /dev/xxx /path/to/mount/point
[21:41] <roland> Jonjonbt,  the installer is setup for u to use it.. it depends on ur iq..
[21:41] <Lamego> Jonjonbt, if you create a differente partition, it will not delete it, the installer works partition wise, it doesn't care about directories
[21:41] <ani1> Jonjonbt: if you write it to a different partition it wont do _ANYTHING_ to the windows install
[21:41] <gligorhoria> Jonjonbt if u do it right
[21:41] <souper> Jonjonbt: not unless you tell it to
[21:41] <Jonjonbt> Okay, I'll work around with it
[21:42] <Lokian> hi all
[21:42] <walilo789> hello i'm searching for program like "internet download manager" in windows please help me !!!
[21:42] <roland> Jonjonbt,  as i said... backup ur OWN data just in case (dont back up windows thts stupid) and then do a MANUAL install
[21:42] <PeterGriffin> hi all , is there a TACACS client for linux available ?
[21:42] <Lokian> Where do I find a vnc server install for Ubuntu server?
[21:42] <gligorhoria> !vnc
[21:42] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:42] <Cann0n> walilo789, this is Ubuntu, not Windows.
[21:42] <roland> walilo789,  evern though this isnt the place to help for such windows based issues.. but my fav is "flashget"
[21:42] <Jonjonbt> roland: What's my OWN data?
[21:42] <Lamego> walilo789, Add/Remove programs, search for "download manager"
[21:43] <roland> Jonjonbt,  tht gotta b the stupidest Q any1 has asked here
[21:43] <gligorhoria> man this ubotu is cool
[21:43] <tim167desktop> hi, my bluetooth worked, but after eboot hcitool scan returns 'No such device' how can i make it work =
[21:43] <amortvigil> Lamego: anil ok ty but i get this error while ubuntu is auto mounting
[21:43] <tim167desktop> ?
[21:43] <bobbo85> anil, the last program I used was called Genie backup (windows).  I would select what directories and files I wanted to backup with check marks, and save that backup routine as like "my backup" - then I would run that backup, and it would tell me I needed 6 DVDs and just ask me to insert one after another...  Is this sort of thing possible with Ubuntu?
[21:43] <Jonjonbt> roland: Docs and Settings?
[21:44] <walilo789> tanks I tried it but they are not to useful
[21:44] <ani1> Jonjonbt: it is getting really annoying i think you know the answer but are getting a rise...When you ask an intelligent question you shall receive an intelligent answer...Your own data is data owned by you..
[21:44] <Cann0n> Jonbo, your own data is YOUR data that is Yours
[21:44] <Centaur5> Should installing oem-config-prepare on a machine that was installed in regular text mode still work?
[21:44] <roland> Jonjonbt,  man if u dunno tht u cannot backup windows as a whole.. i dont think u could start up with linux
[21:44] <Cann0n> sounds like a troll to me
[21:44] <ani1> bobbo85: heh i just stumbled on this article http://packratstudios.com/index.php/2008/03/11/symantec-ghost-who-a-list-of-open-source-alternatives/
[21:44] <corinne_> jonjonbt: your data means your music, porn, films, etc.
[21:44] <ani1> bobbo85: i think this is what your looking for
[21:44] <roland> lol corinne_
[21:44] <Jonbo> :>
[21:44] <phuzion> How can I take a screenshot in Gnome?
[21:45] <ani1> phuzion: print screen button on keyboard
[21:45] <corinne_> jonjonbt: if you are dual booting, then all your windows "documents and settings" etc. will remain part of your windows boot.
[21:45] <Jonjonbt> Thank you
[21:45] <gligorhoria> please stop spaming!
[21:45] <bobbo85> Cool anil I'll check it out thanks
[21:45] <roland> corinne_,  its hist first time using linux.. hes worried he might mess up
[21:45] <phuzion> ani1, where does it save to?
[21:45] <bastid_raZor> phuzion; or Applications>Accessories>Take a Screenshot
[21:45] <souper> i'm worried he might mess it up
[21:45] <corinne_> roland: I installed ubuntu less than a week ago.
[21:45] <morn-> good evening
[21:45] <bastid_raZor> phuzion; you tell it where but normally it saves to ~/
[21:45] <roland> corinne_,  good for u
[21:45] <houmala> Has anyone used the Belkin USB hub with U 7.10 ??
[21:46] <DjViper> evenin' morn-
[21:46] <corinne_> :)
[21:46] <DjViper> corinne_: happy with it?
[21:46] <roland> k so back to my prob...
[21:46] <phuzion> bastid_raZor, thanks dude
[21:46] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: you still here?
[21:46] <roland> any1 fdaced a DCOPSERVER communiccation error ?
[21:46] <corinne_> DjViper: so far, once I figured out how to actually use it, yes.  But remember, I'm coming from Vista, so Windows 3.1 would have been an improvement.
[21:46] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, yes
[21:46] <roland> i know its KDE based.. but kubuntu wont help! and KDE is full with zombies...
[21:47] <Possu2> im getting Kubuntu right now but I am thinking maybe i should wait until the 26th? I am thinking to wait because how well does an OS upgrade work from Ubuntu version to a new Ubuntu version?
[21:47] <roland> corinne_,  vista sucks
[21:47] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: lol, for some reason, that idiot ubuntu2, is threatening you in a PM to me, don't ask me why
[21:47] <bobbo85> by the way, using XChat, I am trying to figure out changing the colors - coming from mIRC.  Example, when someone puts my name in a message, make that text bright yellow or something...
[21:47] <houmala> anyone with any experience with Belkin network to USB hub device??
[21:47] <DjViper> corinne_: hehe okay :)
[21:47] <gligorhoria> will xorg slow ubuntu server?
[21:47] <pisecx> hi all. evolution is always started _not_ in network mode. I should always switch it. why? how can I resolve it? did not found any options in preferencies.
[21:47] <Lamego> Possu2, upgrade is supported, but I personally recommend a fresh install
[21:47] <DjViper> roland: language:p
[21:47] <ani1> houmala: state the problem...
[21:47] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[21:47] <roland> DjViper,  lol
[21:47] <bobbo85> I see "colors" in preferences, and I even see "mIRC colors:"  but it's just a bunch of unlabelled numbers...
[21:47] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: a bit... depends on the machine
[21:47] <houmala> getting printers to work through it
[21:48] <amar-ze> is beta out ?
[21:48] <lascado> alguém pode me ajudar
[21:48] <Possu2> will a direct upgrade from Gutsy to Heron work well or will i have to reinstall the whole os
[21:48] <souper> bobbo85: xchat did that automatically for me
[21:48] <lascado> ??
[21:48] <KalEl> amar-ze, not out
[21:48] <Lamego> amar-ze, for hardy, check #ubuntu+1
[21:48] <gregory> amar-ze: #ubuntu+1
[21:48] <ani1> !en | lascado
[21:48] <ubotu> lascado: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:48] <amar-ze> okay
[21:48] <Shadow_mil> does the alternative CD have a text-based partitioner that allows you to resize?
[21:48] <Cann0n> is there a way to bind my laptop's sound buttons to the headphone jack?
[21:48] <houmala> in particular the HP L7680
[21:48] <corinne_> rolans: I didn't even know what linux was until I was forced to use vista.  After a week of vista, I had to do something.
[21:48] <Lamego> Possu2, an upgrade should work
[21:48] <pisecx> hi all. evolution is always started _not_ in network mode. I should always switch it. why? how can I resolve it? did not found any options in preferencies.
[21:48] <gligorhoria> mDemocritus old amd 850 Mhz 256 ram, will that kill it?
[21:49] <roland> corinne_,  heheh i used linux for the first time when i had to install asterisk at work
[21:49] <Cann0n> just realized hardware volume controls dont effect the headphone jack
[21:49] <ani1> ::away::
[21:49] <roland> corinne_,  and since then ive been using it none stop...
[21:49] <Shadow_mil> ?
[21:49] <Cann0n> roland, i was 15 and installed slackware
[21:49] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: ick ick ick... what do you use it for now, and what do you want xorg for?
[21:49] <corinne_> Conn0n: right click on the volume control and click open volume control
[21:49] <roland> Cann0n,  i was 12 when i drove my first car.. :P lol
[21:50] <Possu2> I've used Linux since the first version of Fedora Core and even in this period of time it has improved a lot
[21:50] <gligorhoria> will xorg slow ubuntu server? and will it make any diference if i install xorg, do my job..., and then start linux in runlevel 2 again
[21:50] <Possu2> although I am still having problems with HD audio
[21:50] <kjashkj> what channel ubuntu in Portuguese?
[21:50] <Cann0n> corinne_, i know how to adjust volume, i had volume control buttons on my laptop, and they aren't binded to my headphone jack.
[21:50] <corinne_> Cann0n: edit > preferences and select everything (especially headphones)
[21:50] <jrib> !pt | kjashkj
[21:50] <Shadow_mil> does the alternative CD have a text-based partitioner that allows you to resize?
[21:50] <ubotu> kjashkj: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[21:50] <IRCLemur> Hello, I'm running ubuntu 7.10 on a Micronpc Transport GX that has a savage-IX Video card. When I mouse over certain things (Images mostly, but not all images, perhaps images without links) there is a white square, as opposed to the normal cursor. Can anyone help?)
[21:50] <kjashkj> thanks
[21:50] <xomp> hi everyone
[21:50] <Lamego> gligorhoria, it will depend on your server capacity, and it's load, running X will use considerable resources
[21:50] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: on an 850mhz machine it won't slag it too much... but it depends
[21:51] <gligorhoria> mDemocritus hlds and apache server, not at top performance becaus i have to recompile the kernell first
[21:51] <pisecx> hi all. evolution is always started _not_ in network mode. I should always switch it. why? how can I resolve it? did not found any options in preferencies.
[21:51] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: just use a simple wm like xfce
[21:51] <walilo789> so i have another problem
[21:51] <corinne_> Cann0n: after this, you should be able to control the headphones' volume in volume control.  If sound still comes out of your own machine's speakers, then just mute the "Front" sound and turn up the speakers.
[21:51] <walilo789> with my printer
[21:51] <whileimhere> I was wondering. I have been offered one of two old towers from work. There is a p3 with 384 megs of ram or a celeron with 256 megs of ram. What one is better?
[21:51] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: what exactly do you need xorg for? like what apps?
[21:51] <walilo789> canon LBP-800
[21:51] <walilo789> i can't work with it on ubuntu Gusty
[21:51] <gligorhoria> headphones' that coul work for me 2, i just want mozilla and a chat or something
[21:52] <mohbana> how do i change the look of the taskbar i.e. instead of the dull grey, i've seen people change it, i am not just talking about the colours i mean the actual look aswell
[21:52] <tim167> my computer won't boot when the bluetooth adapter is plugged in, how come ?
[21:52] <gregory> whileimhere: i would take the one with 384 megs of ram
[21:52] <gligorhoria> not headphones aah
[21:52] <Cann0n> corinne_, again, i have these external buttons on the side of my laptop with up and down arrows. i want to be able to adjust volume via those buttons, instead of going into volume control.
[21:52] <whileimhere> I just dont know the difference between a P3 and a celeron
[21:52] <walilo789> so i have another problem with my printer canon LBP-800 i can't work with it on ubuntu Gusty
[21:53] <gregory> whileimhere: me also dont, but ram is more important then a fast processor
[21:53] <mDemocritus> so you just want real basic stuff? i'd use fluxbox or xfce for your windows manager... they're pretty lightweight
[21:53] <corinne_> mohbana: system > preferences > appearance >  visual effects
[21:53] <roland> whileimhere,  stay away from celeron
[21:53] <mDemocritus> gligorhoria: so you just want real basic stuff? i'd use fluxbox or xfce for your windows manager... they're pretty lightweight
[21:53] <mohbana> corinne_, i am not talking about compiz
[21:53] <riaal> anyone know what the equivalence to the GUI "lookup" is at the command-line?
[21:53] <Cann0n> corinne_, they work for the speakers, but not the headphone jack. the alsamixer works fine for adjusting volume
[21:53] <gligorhoria> ok i will refraze, will xorg be overkill for 850 MHz 256 ram and would it be so much better to use 512
[21:54] <whileimhere> I see okay
[21:54] <whileimhere> I will get the p3 then
[21:54] <corinne_> Cann0n: I can't do that on my machine, so if you figure that out, let me know.  What I do is plug in speakers with adjustable volume, and plug the headphones into the speakers so I can control the volume with that
[21:54] <mDemocritus> gilgorhoria: probably
[21:54] <tim167> i have to unplug my bluetooth adapter for my computer to boot, how can i circumvent that ? thanks
[21:54] <roland> gligorhoria,  i got xubuntu working on a pc with those specs.. its a bit slugish
[21:54] <gligorhoria> mDemocritus ty i think i will use xcfc
[21:54] <mDemocritus> gilgorhoria: but it would still run
[21:54] <walilo789> linuxac#
[21:54] <walilo789> #linuxac
[21:54] <gregory> riaal: sudo apt-get install lookup
[21:54] <walilo789> sorry
[21:54] <lilumi> ????????????? ???????????? ?????
[21:54] <corinne_> mahbana: did you check the forums?
[21:54] <riaal> gregory: cheers
[21:55] <LjL-Temp> !ru | lilumi
[21:55] <Cann0n> corinne_, yeah, its a common glitch i hear.
[21:55] <ubotu> lilumi: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:55] <BjornW> Is it possible to use Control + Left-Click for a right-click of the mouse similar to how OS X it does?
[21:55] <gligorhoria> roland ok, slugish compared to?
[21:55] <Cann0n> !ru | LjL
[21:55] <ubotu> LjL: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:55] <corinne_> Cann0n: are you on a toshiba?
[21:55] <Cann0n> woots my bad lol
[21:55] <Cann0n> no im on a presario r3k
[21:55] <roland> gligorhoria,  if u want to mess with ur nerves.. then use tht pc :)
[21:55] <LjL-Temp> ...
[21:56] <mDemocritus> gilgorhoria, roland: i've gotten xubuntu to run alright on an ibook g3 for chrissakes... 300mhz and 160mb ram....
[21:56] <mDemocritus> but it isn't pretty lol
[21:56] <Cann0n> my bad LjL-Temp. sorry.
[21:56] <walilo789> so i have another problem with my printer canon LBP-800 i can't work with it on ubuntu Gusty
[21:56] <souper> god everytime i look at the feature list for hardy, i can't help but ask why out loud when i see transmission is the default BT client
[21:56] <riaal> gregory: are you sure?
[21:56] <bobbo85> souper, yeah right now, messages with my name in them are dark red.  I was just wondering what the deal is with using numbers and colored boxes, instead of labeling what they are!
[21:56] <roland> mDemocritus,  itll run alright but not as it should! opening firefox would hang the entire sys for a few sec
[21:56] <corinne_> Cann0n: Maybe this will still work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=568463&page=8
[21:56] <gligorhoria> roland i would use something better... ...
[21:56] <mDemocritus> roland: for sure
[21:57] <roland> now am using ubuntu on my laptop ... 2.5 core 2 duo, 2 gb ram
[21:57] <spartan7> how do you keep the compiz cube zoomed out?
[21:57] <riaal> anyone know an terminal equivalence to the GUI tool "lookup"
[21:57] <riaal> ?
[21:57] <roland> 2.4*
[21:57] <walilo789> hello i'm nex
[21:57] <walilo789> i'm new
[21:57] <Jaymac> riaal, nslookup domain ?
[21:58] <gligorhoria> spartan7 u post in fetatures request :D
[21:58] <mDemocritus> roland: heh on my ibook, firefox takes like 30 seconds to start
[21:58] <Lamego> Jaymac, apt-cache show lookup, it is not related to nslookup :)
[21:58] <walilo789> idon't know how to have answers pls help me
[21:58] <roland> mDemocritus,  loool see :P
[21:58] <gligorhoria> !ibook
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ibook - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <Cann0n> corinne_, mine works for the speakers, and i even get the pretty OSD
[21:58] <mDemocritus> gilgorhoria: an ibook is an old mac laptop... like REALLY old
[21:58] <Lamego> walilo789, you already posted your question, unfortunatelly there is no one familiar with your printer (guessing from the lack of answers)
[21:58] <mDemocritus> gilgorhoria: it looks like a toilet seat
[21:59] <spartan7> sorry is that another channel?
[21:59] <gregory> riaal: no, try nslookup, would that be the one you need?
[21:59] <gligorhoria> i ddn't mean to post iflamatory questions, sorry, i just have to try an C
[21:59] <roland> so u guys! any1 faced a dcop communication error b4?
[22:00] <roland> gligorhoria,  dont worry bout it.. good luck! though thertes more light weight ubuntu distros outethere..
[22:00] <riaal> gregory: not really, think it only doeas name lookup ? :S
[22:00] <mDemocritus> roland: dhcp?
[22:00] <woodwizzle> #banshee
[22:00] <roland> mDemocritus,  no no! dcopserver.. someting related to KDE
[22:00] <mDemocritus> roland: ah ok
[22:01] <walilo789> thank you Lamego
[22:01] <gregory> riaal: what is the exact name of the gui-program you need the substitue for?
[22:01] <Lamego> greasy_leftwing, apt-cache show lookup
[22:01] <gligorhoria> roland i'm not looking for another distro, u server is the best for my needs but ty :D
[22:01] <roland> mDemocritus,  eachtime i open an application i get a "dcop communication error" check if DCOpserver program is running
[22:01] <riaal> gregory: Network Tools -> Lookup
[22:01] <Jaymac> gregory I think he is talking about lookup in Network Tools
[22:01] <mDemocritus> roland: and i'll bet it is running?
[22:01] <roland> gligorhoria,  GOOD LUCK THEN
[22:02] <roland> mstrobert,  lol ya
[22:02] <Tooommi> so I changed my video card and now my linux won't boot to the x server anymore. it just stays at the command prompt. what should I do now?
[22:02] <roland> mDemocritus,  ya..
[22:02] <gligorhoria> roland i'm not leaving :(
[22:02] <flex> hello, i'm trying to turn off some settings in my nividia card, (using the restricted drivers) how do i turn get access to these settings?
[22:02] <mDemocritus> roland: kubuntu, or running kde apps in ubunt?
[22:02] <Jaymac> Lamego, the package you're talking about is for looking at text files isn't it?
[22:02] <Lamego> riaal, that is nslookup
[22:02] <roland> mDemocritus,  running kde apps in ubuntu
[22:02] <Lamego> Jaymac, forget it, I misunderstood the "lookup" meaning,
[22:03] <Jaymac> ah ok :)
[22:03] <bicchi> will there be an ubuntu beta CD today or tomorrow?
[22:03] <Lamego> riaal, the network tools gui lookup, is a gui for nslookup
[22:03] <Jaymac> bicchi, Beta is "Coming Soon"
[22:03] <Lamego> !hardy
[22:03] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:03] <mDemocritus> roland: huh... i did that for like six months without problems, besides ktorrent kept crashing...
[22:03] <bicchi> Jaymac: will there be a CD for beta
[22:04] <Jaymac> bicchi, when it is released, yes: see #ubuntu+1
[22:04] <CShadowRun> can anyone help me with my aticonfig? i'm getting horrible errors from it.
[22:04] <CoasterMaster> Is there any way to transfer files to a windows mobile phone over USB in Ubuntu?  I don't need to sync contacts or anything like that, just transfer some MP3s
[22:04] <CShadowRun> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=13296
[22:04] <roland> mDemocritus,  it started with amarok.. and now almost everything has the same error
[22:04] <mDemocritus> roland: try uninstalling all the kde stuff and try again.... or maybe a debconf on the kde stuff
[22:05] <IRCLemur> I'm running ubuntu 7.10 on a Micronpc Transport GX that has a savage-IX Video card. When I mouse over certain things (Images mostly, but not all images, perhaps images without links) there is a white square, as opposed to the normal cursor.
[22:05] <roland> mDemocritus,  lookikng for an easier solution lol
[22:05] <mohbana> how do i change the look of the taskbar i.e. instead of the dull grey, i've seen people change it, i am not just talking about the colours i mean the actual look aswell
[22:06] <Lamego> mohbana, eventually you are refering to other type of taskbar like awn ?
[22:06] <Rym> how do i restart alsa?
[22:06] <mDemocritus> roland: try running amarok the command line, see if you get more detailed info
[22:06] <integration> is there a program for linux that teaches human anatomy?
[22:06] <Rym> or a sound device in general..
[22:06] <georgeb> maybe somebody can help me, #kubuntu seems asleep... what's the latest method to test kde4 on gutsy ? I just install kde4* from the regular gutsy repos; or should I add some kde4 specific repos ?
[22:06] <gregory> riaal, Jaymac sorry, i cant seem to find the gui app
[22:06] <flex> can someone tell me where the advanced nividia settings are so i can tweak the performance level. can't seem to find it.
[22:06] <Lamego> Rym maybe sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ?
[22:06] <allad__> mohbana : did u try right-clicking on the taskbar and selecting Properties?
[22:06] <roland> mDemocritus,  command :$!
[22:06] <erdnus> hi, i run Ub7.10 _64 with restricted drivers for my ati2900 (newest drivers)+ compiz. every time i start my ubuntu it freezes right when the GUI is comin up
[22:07] <Rym> let me try
[22:07] <Jaymac> gregory, go to System > Administration > Network Tools > Lookup
[22:07] <geoffx> hi, why cant i see my windows partitions ? i did before but now that im turning my pc on i cant see any partition besides the swap and linux
[22:07] <Tooommi> so I changed my video card and now my linux won't boot to the x server anymore. it just stays at the command prompt. what should I do now?
[22:07] <mDemocritus> roland: huh?
[22:07] <Rym> Hmm
[22:07] <Rym> still cant playback sound
[22:07] <iva> hi, how can I make ubuntu show the loading, and shutdown screens (the ones with bars, and ubuntu logo), thanks.
[22:08] <EdwardXp3> can someone help me out with my kernel issue :(
[22:08] <DRebellion> iva, it should by default. What does it show instead?
[22:08] <DRebellion> !ask | EdwardXp3
[22:08] <ubotu> EdwardXp3: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:08] <mDemocritus> roland: just try running amarok in terminal
[22:09] <Tooommi> Rugg: I've tried that. It told me that "xserver-org was not installed"
[22:09] <roland> md5, same issue
[22:09] <IRCLemur> Does anyone know anything about the cursor switching to a white box when mousing over an image?
[22:09] <EdwardXp3> cannot open root device "<null>"     --- kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown  <--- i get these kernel errors i did make make install on the extracted contents of thekernel :0
[22:09] <morn-> sorry iam noob to linux :) ... can someone tell me how to find out about  my gfx-onboard chip - i dont know the exact modell No
[22:09] <md5> roland, ?
[22:09] <Jaymac> morn-, try lspci
[22:09] <geoffx> hi, why cant i see my windows partitions ? i did before but now that im turning my pc on i cant see any partition besides the swap and linux
[22:09] <Cann0n> morn-, lspci
[22:10] <morn-> oki
[22:10] <Lamego> geoffx, on the terminal: sudo fdisk -l
[22:10] <morn-> ill do
[22:10] <Lamego> to list your partitions
[22:10] <roland> mDemocritus,  trying to creater local folder.. .kde/share permission denied
[22:10] <gregory> riaal, Jaymac ok, found the gui version. i think nslookup would be what you need
[22:10] <mDemocritus> roland: huh
[22:10] <iva> DRebellion, black screen and nothing on it...
[22:10] <morn-> Jaymac: does it check the chip direct, or the driver ive installed ?
[22:10] <Jaymac> morn-, it lists your hardware
[22:10] <riaal> Need the command-line equivalence of Administarion ->Jaymac
[22:10] <Bsims> I am having a problem with vlc... full screen does not work, I get nothing except a dark transparent overlay when I close the app any ideas?
[22:10] <Bizzeh> can you install ubuntu and tell it to NOT install a boot loader?
[22:10] <riaal> ops
[22:11] <riaal> lol
[22:11] <mDemocritus> roland: ls -ld /home/<username>
[22:11] <riaal> Jaymac: sorry ;)
[22:11] <DRebellion> iva, probs your monitor can't handle the resolution. edit /etc/usplash.conf and put in a resolution like 640x480
[22:11] <Cann0n> morn-, what kind of computer do you have?
[22:11] <morn-> Jaymac: allright ... ill be back with questions ;)
[22:11] <geoffx> Lamego:  done what i do now? i can see the other partitions there
[22:11] <Bsims> Bizzeh: ya should be able too why do you want to though?
[22:11] <IRCLemur> Anyone?! Big white box over images?
[22:11] <Lamego> geoffx, well, if you can list them it's good news, now you just need to mount them
[22:11] <morn-> Cann0n: i got a twinstar note book with VIA onboard chip
[22:12] <Lamego> sudo mount partition path
[22:12] <roland> mDemocritus,   drwxr-xr-x 49 roland roland 4096
[22:12] <morn-> Cann0n: i am trying to get the openchrome stuff running
[22:12] <spartan7> Does this question need to be asked in another channel? "how do you keep the compiz cube zoomed out?" i am new to IRC
[22:12] <clex> Every time i start ubuntu, i am in low-resolution mode. It won't remember my settings of monitor and graphics card driver. Happened when i tried to update driver. Any ideas ?
[22:12] <ToastGuy_> Do I have to re mount every time I restart my computer?
[22:12] <Slart> spartan7: you could ask it here.. or try in #compiz-fusion
[22:12] <mDemocritus> roland: mkdir /home/roland/.kde
[22:12] <ToastGuy_> I mounted a external windows directory
[22:13] <caveman26> how do I get the sys tray menu to work when I click on an icon for a widows program running in wine?
[22:13] <spartan7> thnks, anyone know ?
[22:13] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, not if you add it to /etc/fstab
[22:13] <Cann0n> ToastGuy_, you can set up automounting in fstab
[22:13] <Bsims> clex: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and install the previous one
[22:13] <Lamego> ToastGuy_, automounts are set on /etc/fstab
[22:13] <geoffx> Lamego: ex: if the partition is "/dev/hda1" i should type "mount /dev/hda1" or am i missing something
[22:13] <gregory> riaal, Jaymac i see nslookup doesnt provide all the info the gui does. too bad
[22:13] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865          kernel problems...
[22:13] <caveman26> I should get a menu when I click the sys tray icon
[22:13] <Slart> ToastGuy_: you can add a line or two in /etc/fstab and it will be automounted.. if you want to
[22:13] <Lamego> geoffx, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[22:13] <roland> mDemocritus,  file already exists
[22:13] <erdnus> hi, i run Ub7.10 _64 with restricted drivers for my ati2900 (newest drivers)+ compiz. every time i start my ubuntu it freezes right when the GUI is comin up
[22:13] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865
[22:13] <ToastGuy_> Okay, thanks guys... I'll do a man on fstab
[22:13] <Bsims> clex: you may need to install the dependencies manually as well
[22:13] <iva> DRebellion, thanks! I'll try that now
[22:13] <linkslice> anyone know what I can use to burn a .bin disk image?
[22:13] <mDemocritus> roland: cd /home/roland
[22:13] <riaal> gregory: I know, really want all info from the GUI one
[22:14] <DRebellion> !burner | linkslice
[22:14] <ubotu> linkslice: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:14] <Bsims> linkslice: apt-get install k3b
[22:14] <clex> bsims: thanks, will try. any idea why when i set manually after booting it reverts when reboot?
[22:14] <geoffx> Lamego: !? why /media/windows?
[22:14] <roland> create it there?!
[22:14] <Ashfire908> to specify a device to install grub on, how do i format a device (the /dev way)? do i just enter plain /dev/xxxX?
[22:14] <mDemocritus> roland: ls .kde              use pastebin for that one, it'll be big
[22:14] <clex> bsims: or even restarting x, i lose my mouse config also
[22:14] <Bsims> clex hrm not a clue what kinda card ya got
[22:14] <Lamego> geoffx, well, just mount it anywhere, /media/windows was an example, if you use /media/dir it will showup on your desktop
[22:14] <Cann0n> well, im out. good bye all.
[22:14] <Lamego> you will need to create that directory first
[22:14] <Slart> ToastGuy_: you can mount windows shares, nfs shares, ftp folders, webdav-folders.. well.. almost anything you can mount in a terminal.. you can put in /etc/fstab
[22:14] <Bsims> I am having a problem with vlc... full screen does not work, I get nothing except a dark transparent overlay when I close the app any ideas?
[22:15] <clex> bsims: radeon x800, seems like when i make changes to xorg.conf with mouse that is lost on reboot, like a failsafe is regenerating the file
[22:15] <roland> mDemocritus,  result=   "share" thts it
[22:15] <Bsims> Ah ATI's drivers suck even worse on linux than on windows... dunno but dowgrading might help
[22:15] <mDemocritus> roland: huh... run amarok again, any other errors, or is that the last one before it dies?
[22:15] <Slart> clex: check /var/log/xorg.log to see what configuration file it's using.. it might be usign the failsafe file..
[22:16] <clex> bsims: yeah i tried using their driver for linux and it is what started this mess! i even used their command to revert.  ok, so i'll go into /var/cache/apt/archives/ ... what should i look for
[22:16] <clex> slart: ok if it is, how do i make it use mine
[22:16] <Bsims> it lists the debs by name
[22:16] <Akhaian> I recently performed a BIOS upgrade on my lenovo laptop. Now, instead of booting to GRUB it just displays the text "GRUB" and doesnt respond to input. Any ideas?
[22:16] <marcezzz> ciao
[22:16] <marcezzz> !list
[22:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:16] <CoasterMaster> !source
[22:16] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[22:17] <DRebellion> CoasterMaster, you want apt-get source packagename
[22:17] <zewb> dcc send startkeylogger 0 0 0
[22:17] <Slart> clex: I'm not really sure.. I think it uses the failsafe version if the normal one fails.. but I'm not sure..
[22:17] <zewb> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[22:17] <DRebellion> CoasterMaster, it will dump it in the current directory
[22:17] <mDemocritus> roland: actually, pastebin all the messages you get when starting amarok
[22:17] <CoasterMaster> That wasn't the factoid I wanted, actually DRebellion.  I have some source, but I want to make a deb out of it
[22:17] <Slart> clex: I think gutsy was the first version of ubuntu to use that feature.. bulletproof X or something
[22:17] <flex> can someone tell me where the advanced nividia settings are so i can tweak the performance level. can't seem to find it.
[22:17] <CoasterMaster> mostly so I can uninstall later
[22:17] <clex> slart: what gets me is that i can edit it, get my current config right, then reboot X , and be fine. then when rebooting computer, nothing
[22:17] <roland> mDemocritus,  doing so
[22:18] <vinboy_> hi
[22:18] <Slart> clex: that sounds really annoying...
[22:18] <gregory> riaal: its available from a range of command line programs, sadly i dont know all of them, me cant help more, sorry
[22:18] <clex> i feel like i'm using a livdCD :(
[22:18] <clex> livecd
[22:18] <Lamego> CoasterMaster, use checkinstall
[22:18] <Ashfire908> to specify a device to install grub on, how do i format a device (the /dev way)? do i just enter plain /dev/xxxX?
[22:18] <vinboy_> how do I launch a terminal from a cron job along with the command?
[22:18] <DRebellion> CoasterMaster, check on the ubuntu wiki. there's a wealth of info there.
[22:18] <erdnus> anyone who has a ati video card, and can pastebin me his xorg.conf file?
[22:18] <z3wb> :D
[22:18] <Ashfire908> *format the device's location
[22:18] <kazol_> Is there a way to get more verbose info (by default) when updates are installed?
[22:18] <gligorhoria> anybody locked at my pastebin?
[22:18] <clex> erdnus:  i would but i just messed mine up with atis driver :(
[22:18] <DRebellion> vinboy_, perhaps launch gnome-terminal?
[22:18] <linkslice> Bsims, k3b doesn't support .bin it jsut complains about not being an iso
[22:18] <IRCLemur> CoasterMaster: You seem to be well informed. Can you tell me where I might be able to get support for my mouse over problem?
[22:19] <Bsims> hrm what does /var/log/ whatever xorg file say
[22:19] <DRebellion> linkslice, the file extension makes no difference under linud
[22:19] <Lamego> vinboy_, a graphical terminal is not expected to be launched from a cron, there is no device associated with the output
[22:19] <DRebellion> linkslice, the file extension makes no difference under linux
[22:19] <gregory> corinne_: confirmed
[22:19] <Bsims> linkslice: hrm dunno then let me google
[22:19] <vinboy_> DRebellion: ok.. but where so I specify the command i want to launch.. (e.g. ls /usr)
[22:19] <Slart> linkslice: you can convert a bin/cue file to an iso.. with bchunk
[22:19] <Slart> !info bchunk
[22:19] <ubotu> bchunk (source: bchunk): CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-6 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB
[22:19] <CoasterMaster> IRCLemur, what is your mouseover problem
[22:19] <gregory> corinne_: let me just test in hardy
[22:19] <z3wb> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[22:19] <vinboy_> Lamego: ok.. but how can I tell if the command was launched?
[22:19] <DRebellion> vinboy_, look at the manpage:  man gnome-terminal
[22:19] <vinboy_> DRebellion: thx
[22:19] <Slart> why is z3wb still here?
[22:20] <Lamego> vinboy_, command >> somelogfile
[22:20] <IRCLemur> When I mouse over images (it seems to be images with out links) the cursor is replaced with a white box.
[22:20] <erdnus> i installed the newest ati driver manuelly tonight
 DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 -> wtf is this?
[22:20] <mDemocritus> Slart: he hasn't been killed with fire yet?
[22:20] <vinboy_> Lamego: oh ic.. thx.. that's one way
[22:20] <LjL-Temp> !exploit | nevoeiro
[22:20] <Slart> mDemocritus: mm.. now I think he has =)
[22:20] <LjL-Temp> please don't repeat that
[22:20] <ubotu> nevoeiro: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[22:20] <nevoeiro> lol
[22:20] <erdnus> and after following a howto it didnt start the GUI anymore
[22:20] <linkslice> DRebellion, I know that, but file type does, .bin is not an iso format  :-)
[22:20] <ompaul> !lol | nevoeiro
[22:20] <ubotu> nevoeiro: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[22:20] <ToastGuy_> Where is the file full of my commands I've executed?
[22:21] <morn-> i got a problem with my VIA S3 Unichrome Pro VGA - onboard GFXcard - ive tried the via driver - and now the openchrome driver .... but i cant use §D support
[22:21] <ompaul> ToastGuy_, .bash_history
[22:21] <IRCLemur> CoasterMaster: When I mouse over images (it seems to be images with out links) the cursor is replaced with a white box.
[22:21] <tomaw> nevoeiro: please don't paste them.  they're exploits that knock people offline
[22:21] <high-bass> Hey guys ! im havinga really weird problem that i CANT figure out!.... i have audio coming from my speakers and my headphone jack.. i read online that newest alsa resolves the issue but it hasnt for me!~! can ANyone PLEASE help me out!????
[22:21] <morn-> does anyone know witch would be the best driver for me
[22:21] <Lamego> ToastGuy_, ~/.bash_history ?
[22:21] <ToastGuy_> ompaul: just type in .bash history?
[22:21] <CoasterMaster> IRCLemur, what kind of video card do you have?  Are you running any compiz effects?
[22:21] <ToastGuy_> thanks Lamego
[22:21] <Ashfire908> nevoeriro, don't repeat the exploit text
[22:21] <nevoeiro> ok ok, got it. thx for the info :)
[22:21] <nevoeiro> huh?
[22:22] <ompaul> ToastGuy_, do you and to read them?  -- just type history
[22:22] <Ashfire908> nevoeiro: sorry i'm a slow typer...
[22:22] <Slart> high-bass: if you don't get any answers here you can always try #alsa  ... it's a smaller channel but ask and wait.. you might get an answer
[22:22] <nevoeiro> hehe, np.. ;)
[22:22] <ToastGuy_> ompaul: ya... that was it. thanks
[22:22] <high-bass> Slart: ok
[22:22] <kazol_> tomaw: Really? IRC clients recognize the commands and could be exploited?
[22:22] <DRebellion> kazol_, no, routers have bugs
[22:22] <LjL-Temp> !ot
[22:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:22] <ompaul> kazol_, no stupid routers - and read the url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[22:22] <kazol_> DRebellion: But they're most likely patched.
[22:23] <bluebanana> In Gmail / Firefox, I see red-zigzag underlines under incorrectly spelt words. However, when I right-click on the word, I don't see the spelling suggestions, as before. What happened?
[22:23] <ompaul> kazol_, no - and even then a lot of them fail
[22:23] <tomaw> kazol_: routers mostly.  they think they're being attacked so close the connection
[22:23] <kazol_> ok
[22:23] <kazol_> Is there a way to get more verbose info (by default) when updates are installed? I always have to click on the arrow for downloading/installation info.
[22:23] <roland> mDemocritus,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60348/
[22:23] <bluebanana> WHen I do "Shift+F10" while my cursor is somewhere in the word,  that's when I see the spelling suggestions in the popup context menu
[22:23] <corinne_> gregory: what's confirmed?
[22:23] <IRCLemur> CoasterMaster: I have a Savage-IX video card (this is a transport GX laptop) I am not running compiz at all. I am currently running a cvs install of e17, however this issue happens in Gnome as well.
[22:24] <Slart> kazol_: perhaps you could run the update-manager with some kind of verbose switch.. just a thought
[22:24] <Ashfire908> kazol_: even if there's a patch "normal" users setup their new wireless router, remove the "annoying" password and never touch it again
[22:24] <gregory> corinne_: the error message you gave on 7.1
[22:24] <DRebellion> kazol_, just open a terminal and use the command: sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:24] <mDemocritus> roland: what's the prompt you get?
[22:24] <kazol_> DRebellion: I know, I just want to have automatic updates.
[22:24] <ToastGuy_> So using fstab what part of this mount command would I use?    sudo mount -t cifs "//192.168.1.104/sharedfolder" /mnt/share -o user=MyUserName,password=MyPassword
[22:25] <wil> please help :S my mouse has stopped working, its just jammed in the middle of the screen after coming out of a game, I cant restart because I have open windows, please help, hjow do I restart?
[22:25] <mDemocritus> roland: like right before you type in commands
[22:25] <ToastGuy_> assuming I've already created the folder
[22:25] <corinne_> gregory: I am going to ask my pet linux nerd next week; until then, I will stick with the bigger .avi files
[22:25] <wil> also, if you respond, please type garbage a few times because the resolution has changed and I cant change the shape of the window, so I have a few lines that are not visible :(
[22:25] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, here's mine: //192.168.1.100/SharedDocs  /media/homeoffice  cifs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode,  0  0
[22:25] <roland> mDemocritus,  :~$
[22:25] <mDemocritus> wil: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart the window server, but you'll lose any unsaved docs
[22:25] <Slart> ToastGuy_: did you check the man page for fstab? it has it's own syntax.. but you mostly just move stuff around a bit
[22:25] <mDemocritus> roland: before that...
[22:25] <Ashfire908> to specify a device for grub in the "/dev/device" format, how do i put it in? do i put it in quotes, or () or nothing at all?
[22:25] <corinne_> Thank you for your help, though! I'm going to take a nap. later y'all!
[22:26] <roland> user@name
[22:26] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: thanks
[22:26] <mDemocritus> roland: your username is roland?
[22:26] <biabia> im installing xubuntu and instead of accepting the suggested partition sizes it permits manual. does anyone know of a guide for that, like recommended sizes and mountpoints
[22:26] <ToastGuy_> Slart: Ya... It's still confusing... but what DRebellion has makes sense to me
[22:26] <roland> mDemocritus,  ya
[22:26] <mDemocritus> roland: what the heck? that's so strange
[22:26] <ompaul> kazol_, if you want the lowdown on 99% of all updates: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[22:26] <wil> yeah, I really dont want to restart :S got open stuff... is there a command I can type that will restart the mouse?
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: swap should be 2-2.5x your amount of memory, hard drive space, probably at least 5gigs.
[22:27] <wil> it is there, it just seems to be jammed in the middle of the window :(
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: i should say, / should probablyl be at least 5gigs
[22:27] <roland> mDemocritus,  why
[22:27] <Slart> ToastGuy_: give it a try.. use sudo mount -a to mount all the drives configured.. the worst thing that can happen is that it doesn't get mounted.. experiment away
[22:27] <biabia> mem is 2x1Gb and 2x256Mb's
[22:27] <danand_> wil - can you not alt-tab to your windows?
[22:27] <mDemocritus> roland: because you're getting permission errors even though you have permission to write to the folder
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: ok, so you have 1.5gigs, so you'd want probably a 3-3.5gig swap.
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: i would think 3gigs is fine
[22:28] <roland> mDemocritus,  iknow.. which is why im here
[22:28] <biabia> no i have 2.5Gb total
[22:28] <pretender_> can anyone tell me how to do dvd covers in glabels or where to download a template
[22:28] <danand_> wil - alt-f4 to close - that should give you a chance to save your work
[22:28] <highbass> Hey guys i installed the newest alsa drivers and i am having a problem where i get sounf from speakers and headphone jack at the same time.. anyone know a solution to this problem?
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: whats the proc speed on this machine?
[22:28] <IRCLemur> CoasterMaster: I have a Savage-IX video card (this is a transport GX laptop) I am not running compiz at all. I am currently running a cvs install of e17, however this issue happens in Gnome as well.
[22:28] <biabia> athlon 64
[22:28] <mDemocritus> roland: that's wacky... i'm really not sure where to start.... if a reboot doesn't fix it, i'm out of ideas... sorry man
[22:28] <Rym> How do i remove Alsa
[22:28] <biabia> hm not sure the speed
[22:28] <Rym> so i can reinstall it ?
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: why on earth are you using xubuntu?.. or do you just like xfce?
[22:29] <roland> mDemocritus,  am thinking of deleting this user and creatign another
[22:29] <biabia> i like xfce
[22:29] <wil> I cant, it is mozilla windows with stuff typed in to fields
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: oh ok..
[22:29] <wil> :(
[22:29] <mDemocritus> roland: is it a fresh install?
[22:29] <roland> mDemocritus,  like 7 days ago
[22:29] <biabia> it used to be a windows machine but the hdd died
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: well, how much hard drive space, do yuu plan on giving to your xubuntu install?
[22:29] <danand_> wil - no joy?
[22:29] <biabia> so the hdd in it is fresh 160Gb
[22:29] <wil> sorry, the resolution is also screwed, and iut takes me a while to respond as I can only see the message after it is about 20 lines old :S
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: oh ok.., is Xubuntu going to be the only OS on it?
[22:30] <mDemocritus> roland: i would just reinstall then...
[22:30] <mDemocritus> roland: consider using kubuntu if you use a lot of kde apps...
[22:30] <biabia> well. i dont know how to dual boot. if i can add windows after..then maybe but for now im not ready to put windows
[22:30] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: well, windows is a pain in the ass to add afterwards.
[22:30] <mDemocritus> roland: certain kde apps tend to crash a lot in gnome
[22:30] <jogeek> .
[22:30] <wil> I have to much stuff typed in the mozilla windows :( this will teach me for playing a game whilst hating work :(
[22:30] <biabia> i can do without it
[22:31] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: and dual booting is quite simple.
[22:31] <roland> mDemocritus,  ur right.. and nah sticking to ubuntu.. i just use amarok as kde.. and something rekated to a wireless radar
[22:31] <mDemocritus> roland: aha
[22:31] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: ok, so isn't ther an option there, like "Take over the entire hard drive" or something?
[22:31] <digin4> is there a way to install kde 4 on ubuntu 7.10
[22:31] <mDemocritus> roland: you didn't install them wierd right? just through synaptic or apt-get?
[22:31] <roland> mDemocritus,  apt get
[22:31] <crazybob2> noob question, how do i stop using the 7.10 Live CD to boot to my Hard drive for the freshly installed ubuntu? I installed overtop a corrupt Windows drive in my laptop and the boot error is: "Error booting operating system". I chose the option, guided install, entire hard drive. I dont get why it never works straight off a windows HD.
[22:32] <biabia> i was hoping to make a /home partition so in case i decide to reinstall xubuntu or something all my data would be preserved?
[22:32] <mDemocritus> roland: very strange... i've got nothing... best of luck
[22:32] <roland> mDemocritus,  thanks :)
[22:32] <og_> Hello, im trying to fix some drivers with a friends ubuntu system - unfortunatly i dont know much about ubuntu, from which repository should i be using packages? dapper, edgy, feisty or gutsy?
[22:32] <c3f59d4> souper still on?
[22:32] <roland> mDemocritus,  appraciate the help
[22:32] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: well, you can do that.
[22:32] <mDemocritus> roland: np
[22:32] <IndyGunFreak> you just ahve to setup your partitions probably
[22:32] <Starnestommy> og_: depends on the version
[22:33] <Slart> og_: use the repos from the version you have installed..
[22:33] <og_> Starnestommy: Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2
[22:33] <biabia> it permits manual setup of them but im not sure how to do it
[22:33] <flex> can anyone assist me in finding my nvidia settings.. (i want to turn off some settings to increase fps)
[22:33] <Slart> og_: are you a debian user, by any chance?
[22:33] <Starnestommy> og_: what does the output of lsb_release -a say?
[22:33] <og_> Slart: Starnestommy: they have no access to internet so im downloading manually
[22:33] <souper> c3f59d4:  yea I'm here
[22:33] <ToastGuy_> how do I test to make sure my FSTAB command worked?
[22:33] <og_> Starnestommy: gutsy
[22:34] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, sudo mount /path/to/mountpoint
[22:34] <Slart> og_: ouch... perhaps you would be better off downloading one of those DVD's.. lots of common packages on those
[22:34] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: but do I have to restart the system?
[22:34] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, no
[22:34] <c3f59d4> souper: unfortunately it did more bad than good :D
[22:34] <Slart> ToastGuy_: sudo mount -a should mount all the stuff in your fstab..
[22:34] <souper> c3f59d4: oh no
[22:34] <biabia> IndyGunFreak:  im trying to find some guidance in the forum but im not sure what to do
[22:35] <kebinusan> I installed some update for mysql this morning and since doing so mysqld_safe seems to be eating one of my cores, any suggestions how to stop/fix or figure out whats going on... Ive tried restarting mysqld but that hasnt fixed anything
[22:35] <c3f59d4> touchscreen don't work and my scroll wheel doesnt work anymore :D
[22:35] <IndyGunFreak> biabia: sorry i can't help on that one, i don't separate my home partition
[22:35] <og_> Slart: well maybe if i cant solve it today
[22:35] <ToastGuy_> Slart: oops... it says it's bad...
[22:36] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, what's the error?
[22:36] <crazybob2> how do i get my bootloader to recognize my new 7.10 install which went 'guided, entire drive install' overtop a Windows XP laptop drive? I dont mind reformatting/installing, i just need to know how.
[22:36] <c3f59d4> But thats the challenge, aint it?
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> is there software that lets me simply & easily edit 3 or 4 video files.... all i want to d ois cut them together
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> running gutsy
[22:36] <biabia> IndyGunFreak/  hm ok
[22:36] <Slart> arooni-mobile: have you tried avidemux ? it's pretty straight forward
[22:36] <c3f59d4> souper: say, i read that knoppix did recog the touchscreen at factory state.... do you think knoppix is an alternative to ubuntu?
[22:36] <Slart> !avidemux
[22:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:36] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: lol... it just says line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:36] <Slart> !info avidemux
[22:36] <ubotu> avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[22:36] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: sure i t is, not a very good one, but its an alternative.
[22:36] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, heh, pastebin your /etc/fstab for us and give us a link:
[22:37] <DRebellion> !paste | ToastGuy_
[22:37] <ubotu> ToastGuy_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:37] <iva> DRebellion, same. but the logo appeared on the shutdown screen. on login is still black screen.
[22:37] <DRebellion> iva, half is better than none ey?
[22:37] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: okay... give me a sec... I didn't include those two Zeros at the end...
[22:37] <iva> DRebellion, , yep:)
[22:37] <souper> c3f59d4: well as far as ease of use it won't be as much as ubuntu
[22:38] <dubby> ok anyone, Im trying to get direct rendering enabled and need some help
[22:38] <iva> DRebellion, is there a way to reset the login screen resolution or appearance?
[22:38] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: if you like the ease of use of ubuntu, you could look at either LinuxMint, or a Debian Etch install.
[22:38] <dubby> in xorg.conf i have the module LOAD "dri"
[22:38] <DRebellion> iva, i personally didn't get any splash screens at first. i edited that file to fix shutdown, and a kernel update fixed my startup ;)
[22:38] <tux97> hi nanobug
[22:38] <ToastGuy> Okay
[22:39] <lesshaste> I am using the restricted ati drivers and mplayer can't find xv. xvinfo says noinfo too.. how do you configure those drivers?
[22:39] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> hi all, i'm hoping to install ubuntu on a dell dimension 5100 that was bought in 2005, it did not come with an xp install disk and i have an oem license
[22:39] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: Here's the Line
[22:39] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> how would i go about getting hold of a copy of xp, ( i want to do a fresh dual boot )
[22:39] <ToastGuy> "//192.168.1.104/tv shows" /mnt/share cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD 0 0
[22:40] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, no quotes, and no "-o"
[22:40] <ddalton> hey anyone know if there is an accessible ubuntu installer?
[22:40] <c3f59d4> IndyGunFreak: whats the thing about knoppix? is it as reduced as DSL?
[22:40] <tux97> well therealfaceofboe call dell and see what u can do i did for my laptop
[22:40] <ddalton> I'm blind
[22:40] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: i just don't like it... KDE, slow, didn't care for it.
[22:40] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: i think I need quotes because I have a space in the directory name
[22:40] <c3f59d4> kay
[22:40] <DrIP> hi all how can i run things at startup?
[22:41] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> @tux97, what details do you need to have?
[22:41] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: not reduced though, has a ton of apps ready to go.
[22:41] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, =/ didn't spot that one.
[22:41] <Joeb454> DrIP, you edit the sessions in System>Administration>Sessions
[22:41] <iva> DRebellion, so if a kernel update appear mine could be fixed too. ^_^
[22:41] <tux97> your service tag on the bottom of the puter and some money i got lucky on mine since i'm renting mine i didn't have to buy em therealfaceofboe
[22:41] <nomi1> if i want to find ubuntu ocr from a .png file where do i ask?
[22:42] <lesshaste> where does the X log hide?
[22:42] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: So I'm good with the quotes?
[22:42] <Slart> lesshaste: /var/log is a pretty common place for logs
[22:42] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: I took out the -o and nothing
[22:42] <DrIP> Joeb454: i don't have that menu... gnome...
[22:42] <c3f59d4> slow is the word
[22:42] <c3f59d4> i need a distro thats fast, because i wanna run it on an 2001 lifebook
[22:42] <c3f59d4> say 500MHz and 256MB RAM
[22:42] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, still the same with the -o?
[22:42] <ubuntu> hello
[22:42] <c3f59d4> bit still i wanna have goof hardware support without so much trouble as debian ist :D
[22:42] <iva> DRebellion, thanks for help. I'm going to bed. bye
[22:42] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> @tux97, surely they have to give you the disk  for free?, or is there a small postage cost?
[22:42] <nomi1> hi ubuntu
[22:42] <ubuntu> hello everybody
[22:42] <ToastGuy_> DRebellion: Ya... same error....
[22:43] <RabidWeezle> How do I enable mouse in console?
[22:43] <Slart> c3f59d4: xubuntu? works on my mini-itx machine with 256 MB memory
[22:43] <DRebellion> ToastGuy_, okay, try:   //192.168.1.104/tv\ shows
[22:43] <Sonderblade> what does: dpkg - warning: when python-pyorbit-dev was removed directory was not empty "/usr/include/pyorbit-2" so it wasnt removed mean?
[22:43] <tux97> therealfaceofboe i know the disk is cheap probally not more than 10 bucks if all you need is xp
[22:43] <jrib> RabidWeezle: install gpm
[22:43] <ubuntu> i'm speak spanish, i don't speak english
[22:43] <RabidWeezle> thanks
[22:43] <ompaul> !xubuntu | c3f59d4
[22:43] <ubotu> c3f59d4: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[22:43] <DRebellion> !es | ubuntu
[22:43] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:44] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> @tux97, ok, seems simple enough, will probably give them a ring tommorow
[22:44] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: Here's the actual error
[22:44] <tux97> do it today therealfaceofboe and maybe be here tomrrow the cd who knows g/l
[22:44] <ToastGuy> [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:44] <c3f59d4> IndyGunFreak: butif it is slow it is no good. already ubuntu is not lightweight for the book
[22:44] <c3f59d4> Slart: and how is it with hardware?
[22:44] <lesshaste> with the ati drivers I get (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[22:44] <lesshaste> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[22:44] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[22:44] <Slart> c3f59d4: same as ubuntu.. it's basically the same os.. but without gnome.. and xfce instead
[22:44] <ddalton> Hi, does anyone know of an accessible ubuntu installer with either braille or speech? I'm totally blind.
[22:44] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, you did try what i said above without the quotes right?
[22:45] <tux97> do it today therealfaceofboe mine came to me the next day
[22:45] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: what is the speed of this pc?
[22:45] <nomic> aticonfig is ok for ati cards i found
[22:45] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, //192.168.1.104/tv\ shows
[22:45] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: Here's what I got: //192.168.1.104/tv\ shows /mnt/share cifs username=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD 0 0
[22:45] <nomic> like don't bother hacking the file
[22:45] <c3f59d4> Slart: Xubuntu is based on xcfe, right?
[22:45] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, =/ and your edited line is line 10 right? :P
[22:45] <nomic> yep c3
[22:46] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> @tux97, well its coming up to 11 at night where i am, but yea, might as well, tbh its a project to do in the next 2 weeks, no rush
[22:46] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: what are the specifications of the pC you're running
[22:46] <DRebellion> c3f59d4, yes
[22:46] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: Yes...
[22:46] <nomic> xubuntu is ubuntu 'lite'
[22:46] <Slart> c3f59d4: well.. it uses xfce..it's still ubuntu
[22:46] <speedtouch> ...........
[22:46] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, perhaps remove the space in the folder name on the winxp box would be my next step
[22:46] <mDemocritus_afk> xubuntu -- for when your computer sucks, but you just can't let the thing die
[22:46] <tux97> ok therealfaceofboe good luck
[22:46] <Rym> when i use sudo my password works fine
[22:46] <Rym> but when i try su
[22:47] <Rym> it says auth failure
[22:47] <ddalton> Shadow_mil: did you see my question?
[22:47] <LjL-Temp> !root | Rym
[22:47] <ubotu> Rym: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:47] <DrIP> mDemocritus_afk: oh, also that and for uber fast servers :p
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> mDemocritus_afk: lol, no, i think thats Flux.. Xfce is pretty good.. i like it
[22:47] <nomic> don't use su use sudo
[22:47] <DRebellion> Rym, use, sudo -i
[22:47] <Shadow_mil> ddalton, yes lol
[22:47] <mDemocritus_afk> Rym: su is asking for the root password
[22:47] <c3f59d4> IndyGunFreak wait ill look up the specs
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: ij'
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[22:47] <mDemocritus_afk> i usually use sudo su when i want a full blown root shell
[22:47] <Rym> ah
[22:47] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: Ya I'll try pointing to a different directory that is on the network
[22:47] <ddalton> hey anyone know of a ubuntu installer that talks or suports braille? I'm blind.
[22:47] <LjL-Temp> mDemocritus_afk: i call that a bit redundant, but then again...
[22:48] <mDemocritus_afk> LjL: it works
[22:48] <mDemocritus_afk> lol
[22:48] <lesshaste> I am using the restricted ati drivers and mplayer can't find xv. xvinfo says noinfo too.. how do you configure those drivers?
[22:48] <brianlight> ddalton I'm not sure if there is and installer that has speech
[22:48] <lesshaste> is aiglx connected to this?.. I  have an AIGLX error in the X logs
[22:48] <Slart> ddalton: perhaps wubi? I think it installs ubuntu from windows.. so I guess you would have the same assistive techs you have normally in windows.. I'm not sure though
[22:49] <shad_> hello :)any1 know how to move bar with user to the right side in XChat?:) now i have like popup :\
[22:49] <Drag> hello
[22:49] <peter77> I've installed apache, php and mysql on my laptop to enable me to test web apps without the need for a server, will this cause any disruption to normal use of ubuntu when I am not using thwebserver applications for testing?
[22:49] <tux97> hi drag
[22:49] <Drag> hows everyone tonight
[22:49] <Dr_Link> How do I list the packages installed with sudo apt-get?
[22:49] <brianlight> I know that when you have ubuntu installed you can open a console and do a ls | espeak and have it readback your terminal
[22:49] <Dr_Link> or sudo, period?
[22:49] <glam> Does anyone install Jboss 5.0 beta on Ubutnu 7.10?
[22:50] <c3f59d4> Celeron @ 500; 256MB RAM; IDE 60GB; ATI RAGE 4MB :)   ;
[22:50] <Slart> Dr_Link: dpkg -l (lowercase L) might work..
[22:50] <glam> I copy an .ear to the deploy directory, however it
[22:50] <glam>              still not being deployed on Jboss 5.0
[22:50] <Slart> Dr_Link: there is a way using aptitude too.. but I can't remember the switch to use
[22:50] <Drag> Also side note, Having ATI driver issues here. I swear I'll never get an ati card again.
[22:50] <tux97> drag i'm good and urslef
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: i would run fluxbuntu on that if i were you.
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: is that  apC or laptop?
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> *pc or laptop
[22:50] <c3f59d4> aaah i love fluxbox :D
[22:50] <Drag> Just said, but Im good besides the ati trouble
[22:51] <c3f59d4> laptop
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: use fluxbuntu.
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> http://fluxbuntu.org
[22:51] <DRebellion> IndyGunFreak, c3f59d4, bah! i run gutsy on that
[22:51] <c3f59d4> i cureentlx run gutsy
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> DreamThief: he said gutsy was to slow, he tried it.
[22:51] <tux97> bye all
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> i think the hiccup might be video ram
[22:52] <Drag> byee
[22:52] <c3f59d4> well its not tooooo slow but then again, its not a racing engine
[22:52] <Drag> anyone here good at ATI radeon 9200 driver installation and such >_>?
[22:52] <Dr_Link> Alright, now how do I uninstall a package with sudo?
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: well i imagine Fluxbuntu will runfine on that machine
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> and still be fairly easy to use
[22:52] <lesshaste> how do I configure the ati drivers so that xvinfo actually says I have an adaptor??
[22:52] <Starnestommy> Dr_Link: sudo apt-get remove package
[22:53] <LjL-Temp> Dr_Link: sudo apt-get remove <package> (although, apt-get is the thing installing/uninstalling packages, sudo just gives you administrator rights)
[22:53] <c3f59d4> IndyGunFreak definitly the VRAM, windows tend to build up in 5 seconds when its busy
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: but you have plenty of Ram, hard drive space, etc.
[22:53] <Gloo> OMGG!! im surfing on my laptop with ubuntu using my mobile phone using bluetooth! ;D
[22:53] <Slart> Dr_Link: sudo apt-get <remove packagename> to just remove it.. sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename> to remove all the config files created by the package too
[22:53] <legend2440> Dr_Link:  to list pkgs     dpkg --get-selections > file-name
[22:53] <lesshaste> or.. how do I tell if I need aiglx?
[22:53] <wnstn> congrats Gloo!
[22:53] <Gloo> ;D;D;D
[22:53] <Gloo> this is cool stuff!
[22:53] <Slart> Dr_Link: oops... typo there.. "sudo apt-get remove <packagename>"    and "sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>"
[22:54] <Nasra> hello...
[22:54] <Nasra> I am back
[22:54] <IRCLemur> Gloo: I'd like to know how you did that... I can connect to the net through my phone using Granular linux, but not ubuntu.
[22:54] <shad_> How can i load themes from emerald themer ?:))
[22:54] <IndyGunFreak> welcome back
[22:54] <Nasra> question regarding driver
[22:54] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: what driver?
[22:54] <ToastGuy> damnit, I can't get the original mount i had working...
[22:54] <ToastGuy> sudo mount -t cifs "//192.168.1.104/tv shows"  /mnt/share -o user=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD
[22:54] <Nasra> hi IndyGunFreak..
[22:54] <ToastGuy> What's wrong with that mount?
[22:54] <Nasra> Nvidia...it says no support through ubuntu?
[22:54] <Nasra> what is that?
[22:54] <Drag> hey anyone know why I got this when I tried to install an ATI driver? "The distribution 'ubuntu' is not supported
[22:54] <Drag> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.Tl5665
[22:55] <DRebellion> ToastGuy, what's the error?
[22:55] <Nasra> just installed that driver on a fresh install...
[22:55] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: system/admin/restricted driver, doesn't have a restricted driver option there
[22:55] <jskulski> what is the file that has all the hosts in it
[22:55] <Nasra> don't tell me I screwed up again....
[22:55] <Nasra> lol...
[22:55] <Drag> thanks rugg, cant respond in the private chat though
[22:55] <DRebellion> jskulski, /etc/hosts ?
[22:55] <Gloo> IRCLemur: i just found a nifty guide, and it works :)
[22:55] <Slart> jskulski: all the hosts? you mean /etc/hosts?
[22:55] <ToastGuy> DRebellion: It just gives me a list of instructions on how to mount
[22:56] <jskulski> yep thanks
[22:56] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: well, probably not screwed, but restricted driver manager will manage most nvidia cards, unless its really new
[22:56] <ubuntu> Hello everbody i need to lear to use apt-get, please how can help me?
[22:56] <ToastGuy> oops
[22:56] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: what Nvidia device?
[22:56] <c3f59d4> IndyGunFreak, DRebellion: is there a way to make the videocard share some of the system RAM?
[22:56] <Drag> I just installed so much on here too>_< argh time to go back to 6.06
[22:56] <Slart> !apt | ubuntu
[22:56] <ubotu> ubuntu: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[22:56] <IRCLemur> Gloo: URL?
[22:56] <Nasra> the system was asking for it....
[22:56] <brianlight> Hey would some one be willing to test my Ampache server for audio playback quality the streams are set to downsample at a low rate 34kbps but I want to know if the streams are cutting out
[22:56] <Drag> does World of Warcraft run on 6.06 with ati?
[22:56] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: hmm, maybe, but i think that would be a bios option
[22:56] <Nasra> just updated from the nvidia one in here..
[22:56] <Slart> brianlight: sure.. give us the url
[22:57] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: go to system/admin/restricted drivers manage, what does it say there
[22:57] <Nasra> and I enabled it too...so it can work properly...
[22:57] <Nasra> hangon
[22:57] <ubuntu> thank ubotu
[22:57] <IndyGunFreak> !thanks | ubuntu
[22:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:57] <Shadow_mil> !blind
[22:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:57] <archangelpetro> has anybody here installed CodeBlocks ??
[22:57] <xavthenub> hey, does anybody know if there an ubuntu package for getting an offline version of javadocs?
[22:57] <c3f59d4> well thanks for the fish, people! i'll go check the BIOS
[22:58] <Shadow_mil> Is there any guides for blind users?
[22:58] <brianlight> ok did you get that info Slart
[22:58] <Gloo> IRCLemur: private? or can i post links here?
[22:58] <Rym> I trying to isntall alsa-utils but its telling me i need a curses library
[22:58] <Slart> brianlight: got it.. trying now
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> c3f59d4: if you bump up the memory, you might be able to run a traditional gnome/kde enviro
[22:58] <Rym> but i installed build-essential AND curses-dev
[22:58] <Mahisona> hi
[22:58] <soon> Will there be a new version of ubuntu next month? Ubuntu 8.04 ???
[22:58] <Gloo> IRCLemur: anyways. here it is: http://bi03.co.uk/home/blog.php?id=18
[22:58] <Starnestommy> soon: yes
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> soon: yes
[22:58] <Rym> * l libncursesw5-dev
[22:58] <Mahisona> when i try to boot ubuntu from my usb key il display
[22:58] <Cpudan80> !javadoc | xavthenub
[22:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javadoc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <Mahisona> initramfs
[22:58] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[22:59] <Nasra> IndyGunFreak it says accelerated graphic driver latest card enabled and in use...
[22:59] <IRCLemur> Gloo: Thanks. :)
[22:59] <Gloo> IRCLemur: think this one works aswell :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[22:59] <Cpudan80> is that not the right factoid?
[22:59] <Mahisona> and waiting on the screen
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: ok, so whats the problem?
[22:59] <danand_> Rym - the curses lib will probably be for alsamixer - its a curses based mixer app
[22:59] <Mahisona> what i have to do ?????
[22:59] <patrick_> i tried downloading an update, it gave me an error and told me to run "dpkg --configure -a" but when i type it into terminal it says i require super user priveliges. what should i do?
[22:59] <Rym> what should i do then ?
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: is it nvidia?
[22:59] <Nasra> ok..no problem though made another mistake...
[22:59] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[22:59] <Nasra> yes
[22:59] <Starnestommy> patrick_: put sudo before it
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: ok, what mistake did you make now?
[22:59] <patrick_> starnestrommy ill try hd on
[23:00] <Nasra> last time ...it was with autometix / easyubunut, remember?
[23:00] <Mahisona> ouin frankais
[23:00] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: yes..
[23:00] <Nasra> ok
[23:00] <IndyGunFreak> what did you scrwe up thistime?
[23:00] <Nasra> no
[23:00] <matti_> hey guys
[23:00] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: oh ok, so you're ok now?
[23:00] <Nasra> tell me what do I have to do to install a replacement of automatix?
[23:01] <Nasra> you said no good
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: you dn't need automatix
[23:01] <Nasra> ok
[23:01] <LjL-Temp> Nasra: why do you feel you need a replacement for it? i think Add/Remove Applications is quite good for installing things easily
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: type this w/o quotes, and i'll explain the package manager to you.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[23:01] <LjL-Temp> i mean, if they wanted to make things hard to install, they would have created something different from Ubuntu
[23:01] <Nasra> made a big mistake before had to install freshly again...
[23:01] <Nasra> get it?
[23:01] <Mahisona> hello guys
[23:01] <Nasra> ok
[23:02] <Mahisona> is it the official chatrooom ?
[23:02] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: this is it
[23:02] <LjL-Temp> Mahisona: type /topic
[23:02] <Mahisona> then why noone help here
[23:02] <Starnestommy> we do help here
[23:02] <Mahisona> ok i repeat
[23:02] <Mahisona> when i try to boot ubuntu
[23:02] <LjL-Temp> Mahisona: i haven't seen a question
[23:02] <Nasra> IndyGunFreak ....need to to install mplayer so I can hear my favorite radio station ....what is the howto?
[23:02] <xomp> I've spent all day trying to get this wireless working, could someone please help me? My wireless (wlan0) shows up, but when I enter in my SSID it just stays at "Attempting to connect to wireless" then fails out after a couple minutes with no error message.
[23:02] <LjL-Temp> try to make it fit all in one line
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> Nasra: ok, type this w/o quotes, "join #indygunfreak"  i'll explain the package manager to you
[23:03] <Mahisona> when i try to boot ubuntu from my usb key il display initramfs
[23:03] <Mahisona> and waiting for a command  line to boot
[23:03] <brianlight> Slart where you able to play anything and if so was the stream cutting out?
[23:03] <Mahisona> what i have to do ?
[23:03]  * danand_ sympathises with poor xomp....
[23:03] <xomp> lol danand_ you're still here too?
[23:04] <Slart> brianlight: it's loading.. slowly.. =)
[23:04] <danand_> xomp - yeah ... i come and go :)
[23:04] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: it sounds like it's crashing on booy
[23:04] <Starnestommy> *boot
[23:04] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[23:04] <Pretto> hi all, can anyone explain to me what the therm preseeds means?
[23:05] <xomp> danand_, I know what you mean, after asking for like 2 solid hours straight with either no response, or someone getting you started on something then leave you have to take a break.
[23:05] <souper> Pretto: precedes?
[23:05] <Mahisona> the message is exaclty : busybox v1.1.3  (debian 1:1.1.3-5 ubuntu 7)
[23:05] <Pretto> souper, nope, preseeds
[23:05] <Pretto> souper, let me show the full sentence
[23:05] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: if something like that is appearing, it's having problems mounting the root filesystem from the usb key
[23:06] <Mahisona> built in shell (ash)
[23:06] <Pretto> souper, There are several ways to automate the Ubuntu installation process, for example using preseeds, kickstart, etc...
[23:06] <desmo_> hi i search proramm for skype amd 64 bit
[23:06] <souper> oh
[23:06] <Mahisona> (initramfs)
[23:06] <danand_> xomp - i spent about a week getting wireless working with my debian laptop ... i know how you feel. Have you tried working through the stuff on that web page to set up your wireless?
[23:06] <Pelo> evening folks
[23:06] <Pretto> souper, is preseed a word with no translation like kickstart?
[23:06] <Mahisona> what i have to do in this case ?
[23:07] <xomp> danand_, I've spent the past hour looking at the wifidocs, it appears that all is well with the setup. Just don't know why it won't work :(
[23:07] <desmo_> ubuntu 7.10 64 Bit amd
[23:07] <Malik_> i jus got uuntu now wat do i do
[23:07] <souper> It's basically a configuration file to automatically install ubuntu
[23:07] <danand_> !install | Malik_
[23:07] <Pretto> souper, yeah.. i thought that
[23:08] <Malik_> i installed it to
[23:08] <ubotu> Malik_: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:08] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: you probably need to reinstall it to the usb key
[23:08] <wsfulton> Hi, can anyone suggest a good IRC reader on Feistry that is customisable? I would like certain select channels to aggressively tell me if there is any activity on it, eg flashing, popping up or making a sound. It doesn't seem possible with either xchat-gnome or Gaim.
[23:08] <desmo_> thx
[23:08] <Mahisona> reinstall what ?`
[23:08] <Malik_> o can some1 help me wirlessly connect to my router
[23:08] <Pelo> wsfulton, xchat does that natively
[23:08] <Pelo> !wifi | Malik_
[23:08] <ubotu> Malik_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:09] <Malik_> alrite
[23:09] <LjL-Temp> wsfulton: have you tried xchat (not -gnome)? i don't use it, but it's certainly more configurable than both clients you mentioned
[23:09] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: you need to rewrite the usb key
[23:09] <Pretto> souper, thank you
[23:09] <Pelo> Malik_, that is all I can personaly do for you ,  I don'T know anyting about wifi myself
[23:09] <souper> Pretto youre welcom
[23:09] <DEXTREX> there are 2 diffrernt gnome xchats
[23:09] <Mahisona> ok
[23:09] <Malik_> o
[23:09] <wsfulton> LjL-Temp and Pelc, thanks I'll try those next
[23:09] <mDemocritus> Malik_: what's the problem?
[23:09] <xomp> ok, rebooting again to try yet another thing with this haha bbs
[23:09] <danand_> xomp - how is your card working? ndiswrapper, kernel module?
[23:09]  * Pelo wonders who it is that is temping for LjL ,  he hopes it works out 
[23:10] <xomp> danand_, kernel module I believe
[23:10] <Mahisona> u mean the path os syslinux ?
[23:10] <Mahisona> rewrite the path
[23:10] <Starnestommy> Mahisona: I think so
[23:10] <LjL-Temp> Pelo: the fifth personality, at the moment
[23:10] <danand_> xomp - what card do you have?
[23:10] <xomp> danand_, I did an lsmod for prism2_usb and it's all there, even shows up in network tools.
[23:10] <Mahisona> ok
[23:10] <Mahisona> i will try tomorrow
[23:10] <danand_> xomp - k
[23:10] <Mahisona> thx
[23:10] <Pelo> LjL-Temp,  that's the one that starts screaming obsenities every 30 min right ?
[23:10] <xomp> danand_, I just installed the linux-wlan-ng package, going to reboot and see if it fixes it hehe
[23:10] <Mahisona> bye Starnestommy
[23:11] <LjL-Temp> Pelo: no that's Six
[23:11] <danand_> xomp - cool, luck :)
[23:11] <Malik_> i can;t do it
[23:11] <Malik_> i put in my wirless card installation cd
[23:11] <Malik_> and i donot know wat to do
[23:11] <mDemocritus> Malik_: don't use the cd man lol... that's for windows and stuff
[23:11] <Malik_> wat do i do then
[23:11] <LjL-Temp> !wifi
[23:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:11] <mDemocritus> Malik_: what kind of card is it
[23:11] <Malik_> i jus got ubuntu
[23:11] <DrIP> what is { security/pam_appl.h} contained in?
[23:12] <Malik_> air link 101
[23:12] <LjL-Temp> !find pam_appl | DrIP
[23:12] <ubotu> drip: No packages matching 'pam_appl' could be found
[23:12] <Pelo> Malik_,  wifi cards in ubuntu/linux do now generaly work using the drivers that are made for windows,  you either have to get the linux driver which should already be in the kernel or you need to use ndiswrapper go use the windows driver in ubuntu
[23:12] <DrIP> !find pam
[23:12] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libpam-cracklib, libpam-doc, libpam-foreground, libpam-gnome-keyring (and 70 others)
[23:12] <DrIP> aha
[23:12] <LjL-Temp> DrIP: no sorry, but had a feature to search for files but it seems to be gone.
[23:12] <mDemocritus> Malik_: shut off the system, put the card in, reboot, see if it finds it in the network manager
[23:12] <LjL-Temp> DrIP: you can search for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:12] <DrIP> i got tit thanks
[23:12] <Malik_> k
[23:12] <DrIP> *it
[23:13] <jappdev> I have a strange problem: I had and HD fail, got a new one, go to re-install Ubuntu, but when I try to boot, it locks up, don't even get to POST or the BIOS flash screen, just a black screen with the HD light constantly on, if I unplug the drive, power-on then plug it in as soon as I see the BIOS screen, it works just fine, and yes, I know that doing that is dangerous/bad, but anyone have a clue whats going on here?
[23:13] <LjL-Temp> DrIP: if the package is already installed, you can also type "dpkg -S pam_appl"
[23:13] <mDemocritus> Malik_: then follow the wireless documentation
[23:13] <Jockeo> Where can I see a list of the most popular gpl games?
[23:13] <Malik_> alrite
[23:13] <DrIP> LjL-Temp: yea, thanks!
[23:13] <Slart> Jockeo: happypenguin.net I think.. might be .com or .orc
[23:13] <mDemocritus> jappdev: SATA or IDE?
[23:13] <Slart> .org
[23:13] <jappdev> IDE
[23:13] <LjL-Temp> Jockeo: try http://www.happypenguin.org
[23:13] <Malik_> for my router though it has the linux picture on the cd cover so i think its compatible with linux
[23:13] <jappdev> *its a laptop
[23:13] <Malik_> not compatibly i mean good with linux*
[23:13] <mDemocritus> jappdev: jumper's on right?
[23:14] <jappdev> yes, its the same as the old HD which worked fine for 3+ years
[23:14] <mDemocritus> Malik_ it should work fine with your router, that's why there's standards... once you get the drivers loaded for your card it should work ok
[23:14] <Jockeo> I've already seen happypenguin, and they have a lot of games. However, I can't find a top list or similar. Like I don't know if AlienArena, OpenArena or Nexuiz is the best...
[23:15] <LjL-Temp> Jockeo: well i think they do have ratings, and you can sort by rating
[23:15] <Malik_> i restarted with card connected and nothing popped up
[23:15] <mDemocritus> jappdev: try clearing cmos?
[23:15] <xomp> danand_, no love with the linux-wlan-ng package lol
[23:15] <Jockeo> LjL-Temp: ahh, I'll look again then :)
[23:15] <jappdev> how would you do that on a laptop?
[23:16] <danand_> xomp - bah :(
[23:16] <xomp> I've just about exhausted every "suggestion" on the wifi docs site.
[23:16] <mDemocritus> jappdev: very good question... lol you should be able to do it from bios, use load defaults
[23:16] <jappdev> ok
[23:16] <xomp> I'm seriously at a loss now, I've followed suggestions from the bot and google with nothing to show for it other than a lost day :/
[23:16] <mDemocritus> jappdev: then just make sure you've got the drive connected properly
[23:16] <mDemocritus> jappdev: and snug
[23:17] <jappdev> I'll try clearing the CMOS, i'm using it right now, i just have to play with it to get it to boot right
[23:17] <Pelo> jappdev, check the hdd if there are any jumpers on it , make sure it is set to master or just take out the jumper and let the bios handle it
[23:17] <jappdev> ok
[23:17] <danand_> xomp - alternative - buy a plug in card thats supported :)
[23:17] <mDemocritus> jappdev: good luck
[23:17] <jappdev> ok, i'll be back it it still doesn't work
[23:18] <xomp> danand_, I could do that, but I was laid off work recently so I have no monies lol
[23:18] <Pelo> jappdev, #hardware might also be of some help
[23:18] <ryan__> I have compiz related question, am i in the right room?
[23:18] <xomp> ryan__, /join #compiz-fusion
[23:18] <ryan__> thanks
[23:18] <xomp> np :)
[23:18]  * xomp was actually helpful today \o/
[23:19] <danand_> xomp - i just got made redundant too ... :( ... lousy job anyway :)
[23:19] <Pelo> !helpersnack | xomp
[23:19] <ubotwo> xomp: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[23:19] <ubotu> xomp: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[23:19] <xomp> haha
[23:19] <Malik_> how do i get my wirless card to work
[23:19] <xomp> LOL
[23:19] <danand_> xomp - two cookies ... not bad :)
[23:20] <Pelo> Malik_,  ok , use the install cd and look for a package on it called ndiswrapper install it ,  then start it and copy the .inf file from your cd for the windwos driver for your wfif card ,  point ndiswrapper to it
[23:20] <Pelo> Malik_,  ie,  read the dam documentation we gave you earlier
[23:20] <Pelo> !wifi | Malik_
[23:20] <ubotu> Malik_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:20] <ubotwo> Malik_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:20] <mDemocritus> tell it, pelo
[23:20] <Pelo> can we kill one fo the bots ?
[23:21] <Pelo> thank you Pici
[23:21] <Pici> Pelo: np
[23:21] <xomp> Pelo, think you can halp me with my wireless probs? rofl
[23:22] <xomp> I have offered +10 internets to the one who can help me, but I've had no bitters.
[23:22] <Pelo> xomp,  I have no knowledge of wifi , exept to tell ppl to use ndiswrapper when theiir card isn'T supported
[23:22]  * Pelo likes wires 
[23:22] <infernal_jesus> xomp: what do you need?
[23:22] <m1r> :)
[23:22] <xomp> oh thank you infernal_jesus
[23:23] <xomp> infernal_jesus, my wifi card uses the prism2_usb drivers that come standard with gutsy and I can't connect or scan my wireless network
[23:23] <mDemocritus> why the heck to people use the ubuntu as their nick.....
[23:23] <mDemocritus> that just gets confusing
[23:23] <Malik_> where to i go to insert a command
[23:23] <souper> it's the default username in the live cd
[23:24] <Malik_> do i go*
[23:24] <archangelpetro> Has anybody here installed CodeBlocks??????//
[23:24] <infernal_jesus> xomp: your card is external?
[23:24] <Pelo> mDemocritus, lack of imagination
[23:24] <xomp> infernal_jesus, for some reason my little green light on the wifi card isn't lit up even though it's enabled and when I was using windows when I had the thing enabled the light would light up when it was enabled.
[23:24] <mDemocritus> malik_: applications->accessories->terminal
[23:24] <Pelo> Malik_, open a terminal
[23:24] <robobob> guys my sound volume just keeps going up and down any ideas???
[23:24] <xomp> infernal_jesus, yes, it attaches to the top of the monitor of my laptop. It's a compaq evo n610c
[23:24] <m1r> xomp , usb card ?
[23:24] <Pelo> robobob, bad files ?
[23:25] <xomp> infernal_jesus, even though it attaches with a screw and is part of the top panel of my display, it's considered a usb card for some reason.
[23:25] <xomp> mlr, yes, usb card ;)
[23:25] <infernal_jesus> xomp: does it connect into the usb port?
[23:25] <infernal_jesus> and what type of card is it?
[23:25] <infernal_jesus> what make?
[23:25] <mDemocritus> xomp: that's pretty effed up...
[23:25] <robobob> poss any other ideas what it might be or amy ways to fix it?
[23:25] <Pelo> mDemocritus, they are quite popular I am told
[23:26] <juniecho> hey can anyone help me?
[23:26] <xomp> infernal_jesus, not a standard usb port no. It's a prism2_usb card is all I know hah.
[23:26] <Pelo> juniecho, we need to know the problem first
[23:26] <urlwolf> hi
[23:26] <mDemocritus> robobob: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[23:26] <xomp> mDemocritus, yeah, it's your typical compaq deal hah
[23:26] <bazhang> juniecho: please ask
[23:26] <urlwolf> my sudo doesn't work :)
[23:26] <peter77> I'm running apache, php and mysql for testing web apps on my laptop running ubntu gutsy gibbon, will I experience any performance issues while using the OS normally due to these apps being installed?
[23:26] <urlwolf> I did apt-get install sudo
[23:26] <Pelo> urlwolf, sudo apt-get install  package name
[23:26] <RabidWeezle> anyone know how to enable the framebuffer? *fbdev*
[23:26] <mDemocritus> !ask | juniecho
[23:26] <ubotu> juniecho: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:26] <IRCLemur_> sudo goes first
[23:26] <juniecho> after installing 64bit version of ubuntu 7.10, i can't see ubuntu logo and progress bar when booting - just blank screen and then login screen
[23:26] <raintheory> hi guys, can anyone help me set up a static ip for ubuntu 7.10  ... Wireless and Wired?
[23:26] <m1r> peter77: just boot time
[23:27] <urlwolf> but when using it, it ask for a password, but drops you on the command line without doing anything
[23:27] <peter77> m1r, ok np
[23:27] <urlwolf> no, I mean I tried to get package sudo
[23:27] <RabidWeezle> !framebuffer
[23:27] <urlwolf> but it's not working
[23:27] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[23:27] <Pelo> raintheory,  you can set a static ip in menu > system > admin > network
[23:27] <peter77> m1k, I didn't think it ould make much of a difference, just wanted to be sure
[23:27] <nik> hello
[23:27] <nik> whats the best video and audio palyer for ubuntu?
[23:27] <bazhang> urlwolf: what package do you want to install?
[23:27] <infernal_jesus> RabidWeezle: configure xorg.conf
[23:27] <urlwolf> sudo
[23:27] <raintheory> Pelo, thx I'll give it a go...   funny i couldnt find that before ;)
[23:28] <m1r> peter77 , boot time and some small ammount of ram for processes
[23:28] <urlwolf> bazhang: package sudo
[23:28] <juniecho> is it normal to see blank screen when i boot into ubuntu 64bit?
[23:28] <Pelo> urlwolf, linux is case senstive make sure caplocks is not enalble and that you have capitals at the proper pace in your password
[23:28] <mDemocritus> nik: that's a timeless debate... i like amarok for audio and kaffeine for video
[23:28] <urlwolf> believe it or not, my system came without sudo
[23:28] <ToastGuy> OMG... LibVNCServer is awesome!
[23:28] <bazhang> urlwolf: that is not something you need to install
[23:28] <xomp> infernal_jesus, I believe while I had windows on here it listed as a compaq miniport wan something or other lol
[23:28] <ToastGuy> If anyone is using a windows machine as their primary... You MUST check this out
[23:28] <m1r> peter77 , i would sugest lighttpd for laptop setup
[23:28] <Pelo> urlwolf, is this your computer ? did you install it , do you have permision to instll stuff on it ?
[23:28] <peter77> m1r, yeah, will it be unnoticable?
[23:28] <urlwolf> I did ask (I'm using andlinux, ubuntu based) and it did come without sudo
[23:29] <urlwolf> it's my computer
[23:29] <infernal_jesus> xomp: that's weird
[23:29] <Bippe> hi  :) anyone know if there's a driver out for intellimouse explorer usb ? (old one..)
[23:29] <urlwolf> I'm root
[23:29] <bazhang> urlwolf: wrong channel for you then
[23:29] <urlwolf> why?
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> urlwolf, short answer, we don't support it
[23:29] <urlwolf> andlinux is ubuntu-based
[23:29] <mDemocritus> urlwolf: if you're root, then you don't need sudo
[23:29] <bazhang> urlwolf: read the /topic
[23:29] <m1r> peter77 , it eats less then apache
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> long answer, we have never supported it and will never support it.
[23:29] <peter77> m1r, boot time doesn't seem to have suffered too much
[23:29] <Rugg>  xomp - does dmesg |grep usb  show it listed?
[23:29]  * Daisuke_Ido shrugs
[23:30] <infernal_jesus> xomp: does lsmod | grep prism2
[23:30] <infernal_jesus> give you anything?
[23:30] <m1r> peter77 ,if it is new laptop , u wont have any problems, 512mb ram+
[23:30] <mDemocritus> urlwolf: i use ubuntustudio, same deal with that or any of the ubuntu derivatives
[23:30] <genuser> how often does ubuntu release a new kernel?
[23:30] <bazhang> urlwolf: install the *real deal* and then we can talk
[23:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu's based on debian, try going to #debian for ubuntu help, they'll laugh you into oblivion
[23:30] <peter77> 1gb ram, 1.8 ghz core 2 duo :-)
[23:30] <m1r> peter77, i run similar setup on 256mb ram with np
[23:30] <LjL-Temp> genuser: ubuntu doesn't release kernels... ubuntu releases new versions of ubuntu, and they usually contain a different kernel from the older version
[23:30] <xomp> Rugg, infernal_jesus, yes it shows up there
[23:30] <urlwolf> hmm, it says ubuntu in the can :)
[23:30] <m1r> peter77, no worries then
[23:31] <urlwolf> I see
[23:31] <infernal_jesus> xomp: and even lsusb lists it?
[23:31] <urlwolf> ok thanks anywa
[23:31] <urlwolf> y
[23:31] <xomp> infernal_jesus, http://pastebin.com/d7157b66 for lsmod
[23:31] <danand_> urlwolf - help that someone gives you here could break your andlinux install... something that works or is ok to do in ubuntu may not work or may even be dangerous to do with andlinux.
[23:31] <peter77> m1r, cool, just got a web project to do and upload to a server is a pain, plus I don't always like my peers seeing what I'm doing with my uni work :-)
[23:31] <jappdev> Ok, in reference to the problem i mentioned a few minutes ago: When I power on my computer, if the HD is plugged in, it doesn't do anything, no BIOS, just case lights.  When i wait and plug in the HD as soon as the BIOS screen comes up, it boots like normal.  I have checked the jumpers, its set for cable select, its the only IDE device in the computer, and I've reset the bios settings to the factory settings.
[23:31] <brianlight> what the hell is andlinux anyways?
[23:31] <genuser> LjL-Temp: oic.
[23:31] <souper> !ident
[23:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:31] <souper> hm
[23:31] <mDemocritus> holy crap... andlinux is some strange virtualized linux on windows... odddd
[23:32] <xomp> infernal_jesus, http://pastebin.com/d3111b21c is my lsusb
[23:32] <brianlight> urlwolf wait for hardy and use wubi
[23:32] <infernal_jesus> xomp: well it's there, what did you use to scan it? how did you try and scan for networks?
[23:33] <xomp> infernal_jesus, I've tried iwlist and downloaded airsnort or something that I can't even find after installing lmao
[23:33] <douglas> I have an integrated intel graphic media accelerator X3100, what should i do?
[23:33] <douglas> it wont detect it
[23:33] <LasseNC> Been trying 10 times now, and I can't register a user on the forums site. Keeps saying username is taken (Which it isn't) or that it may not apply to some admin rule. Anybody?
[23:33] <infernal_jesus> xomp: what ubuntu do you have?
[23:33] <xomp> infernal_jesus, gutsy gibbon
[23:33] <Christoz> ere4si hei how is going?
[23:34] <LjL-Temp> LasseNC: tried asking on #ubuntuforums?
[23:34] <Christoz> ere4si can you tell me how can i remove this from the sources list
[23:34] <infernal_jesus> xomp: have you tried installing linux-wlan-ng?
[23:34] <LasseNC> Hmm
[23:34] <Christoz> ere4si sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[23:34] <LasseNC> This client
[23:34] <xomp> infernal_jesus, I would assume that since I have an "eth0, wlan0 & lo" interface, that the wlan0 is my wireless adapter?
[23:34] <LasseNC> Well, no
[23:34] <LasseNC> Will try
[23:35] <infernal_jesus> xomp: sometimes it can be eth0
[23:35] <xomp> infernal_jesus, yeah, I installed linux-wlan-ng and rebooted about half an hour ago hehe
[23:35] <dBera> I must be doing something stupid - I am trying to upgrade mono in gutsy - I have the hardy source in source.list but yet apt refuses to upgrade to mono 1.2.6
[23:35] <brianlight> what are you trying to do Christoz?
[23:35] <prettyricky> has anyone here used x86 with ubuntu installed?
[23:35] <juniecho> I installed 64bit version of Ubuntu 7.10 and from then I see nothing while booting; just blank screen and I wait to see the login screen. When I used 32bit version I remember seeing ubuntu logo and boot progress bar, I kinda miss it and I think there should be one same thing in 64bit.
[23:35] <LjL-Temp> prettyricky: ...?
[23:35] <xomp> infernal_jesus, xomp@sammich:~$ iwlist eth0 scanning eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[23:36] <prettyricky> mac os x x86 project
[23:36] <urlwolf> brianlight: is wubi based on that same colinux kernel?
[23:36] <infernal_jesus> xomp: then it is wlan0
[23:36] <infernal_jesus> xomp: what's the output when you try iwlist wlan0 ?
[23:36] <xomp> infernal_jesus, xomp@sammich:~$ iwlist wlan0 scanning wlan0     No scan results
[23:36] <Christoz> brianlight hi,when i'm updating smth this line is prompt by the update manager
[23:36] <infernal_jesus> xomp: are you sure you are in range of the AP ?
[23:36] <LjL-Temp> prettyricky: ah. you see, "x86" is simply the intel processor arch that pretty much everyone here uses. anyway, we don't support os x :)
[23:36] <xomp> infernal_jesus, No scan results is what I get. I have 100% signal strength on another laptop running windows.
[23:37] <mDemocritus> xomp: what's lspci tell you about the wireless card?
[23:37] <xomp> infernal_jesus, I sware this thing has a little light on the wireless adapter that stays lite up when it's enabled but it's not on right now.
[23:37] <Christoz> brianlight 3 days before i've insert this line with this command sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[23:37] <mDemocritus> xomp or lsusb....
[23:37] <prettyricky> I been seeing alot of videos on Youtube, with mac os x, ubuntu, and Xp installed triple boot
[23:37] <brianlight> urlwolf I'm not sure http://wubi-installer.org/ check it out
[23:37] <prettyricky> Just wondering if anyone here has done that. thanks!
[23:37] <urlwolf> I did
[23:37] <xomp> mDemocritus, , http://pastebin.com/d3111b21c is my lsusb
[23:37] <urlwolf> it's not clear
[23:38] <Matthe1> Anyone know how do mount a second hard drive and not have root as the owner so I can actually write to the drive?
[23:38] <urlwolf> brianlight: are you part of that project?
[23:38] <mDemocritus> xomp: wtf it's orinoco?
[23:38] <brianlight> urlwolf no I'm not
[23:38] <xomp> mDemocritus, afaik, orinoco works too, but I'm pretty sure the prism2_usb driver is loaded.
[23:38] <Christoz> brianlight and in the Restricted Drivers Manager it doesn't write the the model of the g force card
[23:39] <brianlight> Christoz sounds like you need to edit your sources.list
[23:39] <mDemocritus> xomp: yea, it should... it's been a while since i've messed with those drivers... back when i was trying to put gentoo on a g3 ibook
[23:39]  * mDemocritus shudders
[23:39] <Christoz> brianlight where is this file which path?
[23:39] <brianlight> /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:39] <infernal_jesus> xomp: have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[23:39] <urlwolf> this is similar: http://www.topologilinux.com/
[23:39] <infernal_jesus> xomp: since it works on your windows machine
[23:40] <danand_> Matthe1 - is the drive listed in the /etc/fstab file?
[23:40] <brianlight> just open a terminal and do a sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:40] <xomp> infernal_jesus, no, I'm not familiar enough with linux to begin with haha. I attempted ndiswrapper in the past and got lost bigger than sh**
[23:40] <Christoz> brianlight i've typed  whereis  sources.llist in console but can't find it
[23:40] <infernal_jesus> xomp: haha nvm then, are you sure the driver is loaded?
[23:40] <Matthe1> danand_: I can't find it in there. My first attempt at listing it in fstab ended with me having to boot in failsafe terminal mode to take it out again as well1
[23:40] <xomp> infernal_jesus, as sure as someone who knows nothing about his system can be :)
[23:40] <Christoz> brianlight sources.list
[23:40] <infernal_jesus> xomp: try, 'modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1'
[23:40] <LeChacal> hello, has anyone gotten ubuntu to run in qemu? i am getting an error dealing with the cdrom. I am running ubuntu 7.10 as host and  trying 7.10 as guest.
[23:40] <dBera> anyone here using mono 1.2.6 ?
[23:40] <brianlight> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:41] <danand_> Matthe1 - is the drive internal or external ?
[23:41] <xomp> infernal_jesus, ok, that is done.
[23:41] <Matthe1> danand_: internal
[23:41] <infernal_jesus> xomp: try iwlist now..
[23:42] <xomp> infernal_jesus, same thing "No results" immediately.
[23:42] <mDemocritus> xomp: sudo iwlist scan
[23:42] <xomp> mDemocritus, same thing :)
[23:42] <mDemocritus> huh
[23:42] <infernal_jesus> xomp: hm..
[23:42] <arooni-mobile> given 5 separate avi files... how can i easily stitch them together to be one big avi file?
[23:42] <Rugg> xomp dmesg |grep usb
[23:42] <xomp> mDemocritus, "Not supported" on eth0 & lo, and "No results" on wlan0 hah
[23:43] <danand_> Matthe1 - what is the output of sudo fdisk -l ... does that list the drive your trying to add
[23:43] <mDemocritus> xomp so it is showing the card
[23:43] <xomp> mDemocritus, I believe so
[23:43] <Flyerfye> how do I eject a cd when installing a program?
[23:43] <xomp> Rugg, http://pastebin.com/d763e612f for dmesg
[23:43] <Matthe1> danand_: yes it does
[23:43] <mDemocritus> xomp ifconfig wlan0
[23:44] <xomp> mDemocritus, http://pastebin.com/d3b116932
[23:44] <brianlight> Flyerfye in terminal eject /dev/cdrom or what ever you cdrom device is
[23:44] <danand_> Matthe1 - can you pastebin that output?
[23:45] <rwycuff> xomp: any luck yet
[23:45] <xomp> rwycuff, lol nope!
[23:45] <Matthe1> danand_: have pm
[23:45] <brianlight> Flyerfye you may have to sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[23:45] <xomp> rwycuff, I've got several fine folks helping me now but I think it has stumped them as well :)
[23:45] <Matthe1> danand_: so as not to flood the channel
[23:45] <mDemocritus> xomp and for sure you've got wireless in the area?
[23:45] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok
[23:45] <Christoz> brianlight actually  the manger prompts me this...W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com gutsy Release: The following signatures could n't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[23:45] <infernal_jesus> xomp: do iwconfig and paste the outpu
[23:46] <infernal_jesus> *output
[23:46] <xomp> mDemocritus, yeah, there is mine that uses no encryption and I do broadcast my SSID. And there are about 10 others in my area that use different encryptions and broadcast their SSID's as well.
[23:46] <mDemocritus> xomp: make sure you're running iwlist as root....
[23:46] <mDemocritus> with sudo
[23:46] <infernal_jesus> xomp: oh wait, do 'ifconfig wlan0 up' .. :P
[23:46] <arooni-mobile> is there software that lets me simply & easily edit 3 or 4 video files.... all i want to do is cut them together to upload to youtube.......... how can i do this?
[23:46] <brianlight> oh you need ther public key
[23:46] <rwycuff> xomp:its not stumpped its the fact that the wireless driver isnt working or the nic itslef is busted other wise eth1 would show up in ifconfig
[23:47] <brianlight> christoz
[23:47] <brianlight> you need to insert there public key
[23:47] <mDemocritus> rwycuff, it's showing as wlan0
[23:47] <rwycuff> oh ok that works
[23:47] <mDemocritus> lol
[23:47] <infernal_jesus> xomp: do 'ifconfig wlan0 up' and then 'iwconfig'
[23:47] <danand_> Matthe1 - you have to be registered with nickserv to be able to pm people ... i can't see your messages
[23:47] <geoffx> how can i assign a custom amount of memory to a program ?
[23:47] <mDemocritus> xomp: for sure you're running "sudo iwlist scan" right?
[23:47] <brianlight> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[23:47] <xomp> infernal_jesus, xomp@sammich:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[23:47] <Matthe1> danand_: blast!
[23:47] <xomp> mDemocritus, correct :)
[23:48] <mDemocritus> that's effed
[23:48] <danand_> Matthe1 - never mind ... just use the channel
[23:48] <Matthe1> danand_: could you give a couple of pointers on the important bits and I'll try and figure the rest out for myself then?
[23:48] <infernal_jesus> xomp: that's weird :P
[23:48] <brianlight> Christoz did you do this in terminal wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[23:48] <xomp> infernal_jesus, iwconfig results in lo, eth0 & wlan0 - no wireless extentions
[23:48] <Matthe1> Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
[23:48] <Matthe1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders
[23:48] <Matthe1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[23:48] <Matthe1> Disk identifier: 0x0002ec07
[23:48] <Matthe1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:48] <Matthe1> /dev/hdb1               1        4998    40146403+  83  Linux
[23:48] <FloodBot2> Matthe1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <Christoz> brianlight ok but i don't this line anymore
[23:48] <danand_> !pastebin | Matthe1
[23:48] <ubotu> Matthe1: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:49] <Rugg> xomp - "hfa384x_usbctlx_complete_sync: CTLX[1] error: state(Request failed)"  seems to be that a Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 has no drivers loaded.
[23:49] <Christoz> brianlight i mean ok to insert it but after that how can i remove it?
[23:49] <infernal_jesus> xomp: the wlan_ng drivers you installed? are they the latest drivers?
[23:49] <gizzo> i have a very annoying problem, every time a window comes out of focus its title becomes semi transparent, i dont know which option this is in the desktop effects
[23:49] <Christoz> brianlight ok let's insert it first sorry
[23:49] <xomp> Rugg, are you cereal?
[23:49] <brianlight> don't insert that line I gave you into your sources list
[23:49] <danand_> Matthe1 - oops, sorry. when i said use the channel i didn't mean paste in it. use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then tell me the link
[23:50] <brianlight> run it as a command in terminal
[23:50] <xomp> infernal_jesus, I'm not sure, I just did it not too long ago from the synaptic package manager
[23:50] <brianlight> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[23:50] <knoppix_> Hi. I am on a knoppix system right now and want to rescue some files. Unfortunately "copy -R" does not work properly . Any ideas why ?
[23:50] <EdwardXp3> can someone help me out with this issue im stuck make mkpg clean right under that >> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/
[23:50] <xomp> infernal_jesus, sorry, not the package manager, but rather apt-get linux-wlan-ng
[23:50] <Lokian> I set my network config in Ubuntu, but can't connect to anything or ping, help please?
[23:50] <knoppix_> I only seem to get links or something like that
[23:50] <EdwardXp3> make-kpkg clean  right underthat im really really stuck
[23:50] <matti_> guys, is it tillpossible for me to make the artition that is runnig ubuntu bigger withount erasing anything on my windows xp partitio?
[23:50] <brianlight> basicly it's just a public key to make sure that your installing things from trusted sources
[23:51] <infernal_jesus> xomp: check for a newer version
[23:51] <xomp> Rugg, if you could suggest a fix for that error I would gladly award you +10 internets :)
[23:51] <brianlight> I would think WineHQ would be a fairly trusted source
[23:51] <danand_> knoppix_ - copy -R is a dos command if i'm not mistaken - use cp -r instead
[23:51] <Flannel> matti_: Assuming you have freespace on your windows partition, yeah, you can shrink them.
[23:51] <xomp> infernal_jesus, ok, is there a n00b way to do that? I basically need hand holding :(
[23:51] <matti_> ooo, thank flannel :D
[23:51] <knoppix_> oh my bad. i meant "cp -R"
[23:51] <infernal_jesus> xomp: just do sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng :P
[23:52] <knoppix_> (i typed it wrong)
[23:52] <infernal_jesus> and it will tell you whether you have the latest driver or not
[23:52] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60354/    - I think
[23:52] <knoppix_> (in the chat)
[23:52] <mDemocritus> xomp: without the :P  lol
[23:52] <xomp> infernal_jesus, rofl, ok, doing that now hah
[23:52] <juniecho> can anyone help me when i see no splash screen while booting? and no boot progress bar...
[23:52] <SpookyET> How do you hardwire a configure script with the path of a library when it's too dumb to detect it by itself?
[23:52] <brianlight> wine is also included in ubuntu repositorys can't remember if it's universe mulitverse
[23:52] <danand_> Matthe1 - cool. wait one...
[23:52] <xomp> infernal_jesus, invalid character ":P" halp!!
[23:52] <brianlight> or actually in main?
[23:52] <xomp> j/k :D
[23:52] <mDemocritus> hahahahaha
[23:52] <infernal_jesus> compbrain: hahahaha remove the :P
[23:52] <infernal_jesus> oh ok :D
[23:52] <infernal_jesus> lol
[23:52] <infernal_jesus> I got worried for a second there :P
[23:53] <xomp> infernal_jesus, ok, did that and got this linux-wlan-ng is already the newest version.
[23:53] <infernal_jesus> ok
[23:53] <mDemocritus> xomp: we're left with one option.....
[23:53] <mDemocritus> xomp: kill it with fire
[23:53] <mDemocritus> LOTS of fire
[23:53] <xomp> mDemocritus, lulz
[23:54] <danand_> Matthe1 - is that the entire output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:54] <brianlight> <-------likes wired connections
[23:54] <rwycuff> xomp have you tried this without wep or wpa on just to see what happens
[23:54] <brianlight> it adds to the decor in my room
[23:54] <xomp> mDemocritus, I have seriously lost 25 yrs off me life just from fighting this thing today hah
[23:54] <mDemocritus> xomp: psh... there's an easier way....
[23:54] <xomp> rwycuff, I don't have encryption on my network, it's open. Wouldn't know how to use it in linux either haha
[23:54] <Christoz> brianlight ok fixed,thank you ....what realy happened in there?
[23:54] <mDemocritus> xomp: go find an atheros card
[23:54] <brianlight> tons and tons of wires everywhere
[23:55] <Matthe1> danand_: there was another disk above it
[23:55] <NeoGeo64> Hi does anyone know a free VM app for XP that will allow me to run/install Ubuntu
[23:55] <ene_dene> I've just formated one of my disks to ext3, and to mount it I have to use sudo password. But the problem is if I want to use disk later (write something on it) I don't have a premission. How do I put it as disk available to me as user?
[23:55] <og_> whats a good lightweight browser (with flash player etc)
[23:55] <juniecho> neogeo64 try virtualbox
[23:55] <infernal_jesus> I gpt to gp
[23:55] <xomp> mDemocritus, that or use a carrier pigeon to do all my wireless work haha
[23:55] <infernal_jesus> peace
[23:55] <crshman> i have a newly expanded raid 5 that's 1.7Tb large and i currently have an LVM of 1.36Tb, do i have to do grow the pv for the lvm or will it automatically detect the change?
[23:56] <mDemocritus> xomp: too bad the carrier pigeon driver isn't GPL ;)
[23:56] <danand_> Matthe1 - paste the entire output.... that disk thats listed is your ubuntu disk. I guess you want to add your windows disk /dev/hda??
[23:56] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60355/ should be the fuller text, sorry, didn't think the first hdd was releveant
[23:56] <ene_dene> I can't change ownership because I can't be root in nautilus, or I don't know how
[23:56] <xomp> haha
[23:56] <danand_> Matthe1 - k :)
[23:56] <Flannel> crshman: You would need to create a new (or change the old) PV, then add it to your VG, then expand the LV (or create a new LV, or leave it blank)
[23:56] <NeoGeo64> Oh, also, my PC is new and doesn't have a floppy drive, how would I create a Windows boot disk so I could flush the MBR when I need to
[23:56] <NeoGeo64> Is there a way I could make a Windows boot CD?
[23:56] <Flyerfye> I tried the sudo eject cdrom thing and it wont eject because it says the device is busy, any advice for ejecting a CD during a multiple CD installation
[23:57] <Matthe1> danand_: no windows disk on this machine, it's a pure ubuntu machine, I'm setting about going cold turkey on windows
[23:57] <crshman> how do i change the old pv (which points to the raid5) to increase in size?
[23:57] <xomp> smoke break guys, brb :)
[23:57] <brianlight> Chirstoz You needed public keys for the repository synaptic and update manager complain if you don;t have the keys to a repository basicly it's a protection feature so that your not installing things from untrusted sources
[23:57] <ene_dene> ok, is it possible to work as root in nautilus and then "unroot"?
[23:57] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok, so you need to add /dev/hdb disk.... Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?
[23:57] <geoffx> how can i assign a custom amount of memory to a program ?
[23:58] <Flannel> crshman: pvresize
[23:58] <danand_> Matthe1 - pure ubuntu .... :)
[23:58] <brianlight> Flyerfye I think there may be a force eject let me man eject really quick
[23:58] <mDemocritus> ene_dene: not especially... gksudo nautilus will run it as root
[23:58] <DG19075> has a pure Ubuntu box here too
[23:58] <rami> Hello my fonts are all jagged up in wine...what should I do? Thank you
[23:58] <ene_dene> mDemocritus: thanks
[23:59] <mDemocritus> ene_dene: no prob
[23:59] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60356/ there is already the remnants of my first attempt in there modified slightly (first time I mapped it onto my home drive and couldn't log on at all)