[00:01] <secretlondon> I have done that as a comment but it didn't seem to work
[00:01] <secretlondon> description may be better
[00:02] <bdmurray> description is right there in front and the first thing you see
[00:02] <bdmurray> a comment can get buried by more comments
[00:07]  * secretlondon nods
[00:11] <secretlondon> yep
[05:15] <pwnguin>  42.5% (258.6)      <kernel IPI> : Rescheduling interrupts
[05:15] <pwnguin> =(
[05:16] <pwnguin> thats a lot of wakeups
[08:50] <qense> hello
[10:23] <kagou> seb128, hi
[10:23] <kagou> seb128, i'v re-open Bug #14774
[10:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 14774 in gnome-system-tools "[shares-admin] Shared folders requires a login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774
[10:24] <seb128> hey kagou
[10:24] <kagou> 2.21.3-0ubuntu1 seem's to have "- Shares: Handle SMB passwords.
[10:24] <kagou> " but last g-s-t don't handle SMB passord
[10:24] <seb128> kagou: I hate gst, we should just delete the thing
[10:24] <kagou> lose of a patch ?!
[10:24] <seb128> dunno
[10:25] <seb128> and I honestly don't care, I don't read the bugs for this buggy thing
[10:25] <seb128> we should just replace it with nautilus-share
[10:26] <seb128> gst is buggy, written in perl, not maintained upstream nor in debian nor in ubuntu
[10:27] <kagou> wouah, euh may be we have to disable share-admin ?
[10:27] <seb128> why?
[10:27] <kagou> and add nautilus-share by default
[10:27] <seb128> you think people will complain less?
[10:27] <seb128> that was the plan but that's a bit late for hardy now
[10:27] <kagou> again share-admin is unusable as it
[10:28] <kagou> so why not simply disable it
[10:28] <seb128> so don't use it
[10:28] <kagou> don't show it
[10:28] <seb128> you think people will complain less?
[10:28] <seb128> would be nice if some user tried to solve the issue
[10:28] <seb128> rather than having everybody complaining about it not working as they expect
[10:28] <kagou> google soc ?
[10:28] <seb128> not likely to be done before hardy
[10:30] <pwnguin> what soc?
[10:30] <pwnguin> not ubuntu's
[10:43] <qense> hello
[11:52] <greg-g> bdmurray: sorry I didn't get back to you last night, something came up when I got home.
[11:58] <Iulian> Hey
[12:52] <bddebian> Boo
[12:56]  * Iulian b00s loudly
[12:58] <qense> Does Microsoft has a public bug tracker? I think bug 154490 is a bug in Vista, instead of grub
[12:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 154490 in grub "Vista crashes Linux filesystem when hibernating" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154490
[12:58] <bddebian> Iulian: :-)
[12:59] <bddebian> Vista is one big bug
[12:59] <qense> I know
[12:59] <qense> but this bug screws us up, not just vista
[13:00] <persia> There's the MS knowledgebase, but it only tracks bugs with fixes available.  I'm not sure it's properly supported by LP, but if there is a KB article, you could add a link.
[13:00] <qense> where can you find that?
[13:01] <qense> We could send Microsoft a mail to let them know about this bug
[13:01] <qense> But I don't expect much of that, since their bootloader also doesn't support other OSes
[13:01] <persia> http://support.microsoft.com/ (although the interface leaves lots to be desired, and the "support" is limited)
[13:02] <qense> I'll see what I can do
[13:03] <qense> wow
[13:04] <qense> you have to pay for support if I read the description well
[13:04] <qense> I'm not going to pay to give them information about a possible bug
[13:04] <qense> or they require a license
[13:05]  * persia hasn't used MS KB in several years, but remembers there being some search URL that allowed one to view KB articles without paying (although perhaps not submit a new issue)
[13:05] <persia> Maybe you could work with the bug submitter to pass upstream?  They likely have a license.
[13:06] <qense> that will start their 90 days of free support period
[13:06] <qense> after that they have to pay
[13:06] <persia> Ah.  That's not ideal then.  Oh well.  Some upstreams are too troublesome to bother helping :(
[13:06] <qense> I think it's ridiculous that you should pay in order to give them information about a possible bug
[13:07] <qense> I'll try the feedback option
[13:07] <qense> why can't they make a clear site?
[13:08] <qense> I've found one KB article containing the word grub!
[13:09] <qense> but it's a possible problem you can have when you use 'A third party boot loader'
[13:09] <qense> which is strongly not-recommended by MS
[13:09] <qense> and I think, not supported too
[13:10] <qense> argh, I hate MS
[13:10] <qense> MS also requires their own bootloader in order to hibernate vista
[14:35] <qense> isn't bug 204652 expected behaviour?
[14:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204652 in gtk+2.0 "gtk_key_theme Emacs mode shade most Gnome Accelerators" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204652
[14:37] <persia> qense: I'd say "Yes".  Emacs uses very different keystrokes.  On the other hand, it may be that either gtk_key_theme Emacs is incomplete or that the user needs to learn the keybinding to access the menus.  The bug may be valid, and poorly entitled.
[14:42] <qense> ok, thx
[18:20] <steph_> I would like to report a *bug* for the first time. I thought I have to use launchpad, but I gives me this message: "UbuntuStudio Artwork does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker". Where do I have to report the bug?
[18:20] <james_w> steph_: hi. What is the bug you would like to report?
[18:22] <steph_> There is something wrong with the text box for password/username in ubuntustudio-gdm-package 0.24. When you translate gdm, the textbox is on top of the label.
[18:22] <steph_> *the artwork with jar/paintbrushes
[18:23] <steph_> it needs to be move 3-4 caracters to the right.
[18:23] <james_w> I think you need to report it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-look/+filebug
[18:23] <steph_> I fixed the bug
[18:23] <james_w> great!
[18:23] <steph_> thanks
[18:24] <james_w> can you tell me where you tried to report it before?
[18:24] <james_w> it would be interesting to know what led you there instead.
[18:25] <james_w> was it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-artwork/+filebug ?
[18:25] <james_w> that would seem to be an outdated page.
[18:30] <steph_> yes
[18:31] <james_w> steph_: ok, thanks.
[18:32] <steph_> Do I have to include my changes in the description, or it's another step?
[18:32] <steph_> *steph_ never did that before
[18:33] <james_w> steph_: yes, you can include everything in the description if you like.
[18:34] <steph_> so I open a bug, give its description, add my fixes, and notify for a "bug fixed"?
[18:35] <james_w> steph_: if you leave it as New then someone can find your fixes and apply them.
[18:35] <steph_> ok.thanks
[18:35] <james_w> It needs to get in to the official package before it can be regarded as fixed.
[18:51] <steph_> james_w: cooool. It's a pretty good feeling to have an influence (as small as it can be)!
[18:51] <steph_> it makes my day :)
[19:09] <james_w> steph_: it's great isn't it :)
[19:09] <james_w> steph_: thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better.
[20:28] <greg-g> quiet day
[22:34] <Bruno1> i have a question. After i upload a .debdiff to a bug report, do i change its status?
[22:54] <yuriy> Bruno1: you could keep it "Triaged" or change to "In Progress". make sure to check off that the attachment is a patch
[22:55] <Bruno1> yuriy: ok