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j1mcsommer: you here?00:08
sommerj1mc: hey hey hey01:24
j1mchi sommer01:24
j1mcparty time, excellent01:24
sommerheh, just woke up from a nap01:25
j1mctake your time01:26
sommeroh, it's on! jheheheh01:26
sommerhave you had a chance to look throught the packaging guide?01:27
j1mcsommer: no, not really... sorry.01:27
sommerI've checked out the xubuntu branch so I think I should be able to walk you thorugh it :-)01:27
j1mci hope so.01:28
j1mc:)  thanks for offering to help, btw01:28
sommerno problem, if you want to open it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide01:28
sommerthere's some packages to install first01:28
j1mcok01:28
sommeronce you have it open go ahead and click the "Getting Started" link01:29
j1mci'll let you know when i have the packages installed01:29
j1mcbrb01:29
sommercool01:29
j1mcdone  i installed everything from the "packaging tools" section01:31
sommerokay, now you'll need to setup a pbuilder environment01:33
sommerthe commands toward the bottom of the page: sudo pbuilder create --distribution hardy01:33
sommerbasically a pbuilder is a chroot environment packed into a tarball, it's pretty slick01:34
j1mccool... almost done01:35
j1mcuh, actually... not quite almost done01:36
sommerdid the hardy part work?01:36
j1mcyeah01:36
j1mcit's working, just retrieving a bunch of stuff01:36
j1mcit will be a few minutes... it's going in alpha order, and it is on the "L's" right now01:37
sommergood, I was thinking you needed to install another package, but I guess not, coolness01:37
sommerya, the creation process can take a while01:38
sommerj1mc: do you have a gpg key ?01:38
j1mcyeah01:39
sommercool01:39
j1mchttp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x571FF83D&op=index01:39
j1mcthat's it, right?01:39
sommerbeauty, yep01:40
j1mcOpenPGP keys:    571FF83D01:40
j1mci'm not sure if i've ever used it.  it's been a long time since i set it up, and it probably wasn't on this machine.01:40
j1mci should know the password, though, if i need to use it.01:41
sommerI think it just needs to be in the keyring, it's really only needed to sign the package01:41
j1mcok01:41
sommerbut sicne someone else needs to upload it they'll use their key anyway01:41
j1mcpbuilder stuff is done01:42
sommerokay, click on the "Packagingguide/Basic" link at the bottom01:43
sommeryou can read through the explanation of the files if you'd like, but the import instructions are under the "Building the Source Package" heading01:44
sommerimportant even01:44
j1mcok01:44
sommernow add a change log entry by doing: debchange -i01:45
* j1mc moves to the root of my xubuntu-hardy branch01:45
j1mcdo i enter debuild -s?01:45
j1mc(capital S)01:46
sommernot yet, you need to create a changelog entry first, this will increment the package number01:46
j1mcok01:46
sommerthat part is explained earlier in the section, doing it by hand anyway01:46
sommerI like the debchange -i command, quick and clean :)01:46
j1mcdebchange: debian/changelog unmodified; exiting.01:47
j1mcshould i have entered stuff in there?01:47
sommerdid it open an editor?01:47
j1mcyeah01:47
sommerah, yep... place a comment after the "*"01:48
j1mcok01:48
sommerokay, now do the debuild -S -kgpgkey01:49
j1mchttp://pastebin.ca/95114401:49
j1mcthat is what was in there already01:49
sommerdid it create a new entry for you?01:50
sommerabove that entry?01:50
j1mcyeah01:51
j1mci just entered a short thanks...01:51
sommerif not, try doing export DEBEMAIL=youremail export DEBFULLNAME=yourname01:51
j1mcdo i have to do anything else?01:51
j1mcyeah, my info was in there01:52
sommercool, nope just save the file01:52
j1mcok01:52
j1mcdone01:52
j1mcnow debuild -S -kgpgkey  ?01:52
sommerya, you may not need the -k, but for me if I don't add it, it won't use my key to sign the package01:52
sommeryou can go ahead and try without, you can always try again with :-)01:53
sommerbut ya now do a debuild -S01:53
j1mchm... http://pastebin.ca/95114701:53
sommersorry replace gpgkey with your key01:54
sommerso it'll be: debuild -S -k571FF83D01:55
j1mchm, that still didn't work.01:56
sommerdid it give you an error?01:56
j1mcmight it be that i don't have that key present on this machine?01:56
j1mcyeah01:56
sommerya, probably is, can you place it in .gnupg?01:57
j1mchttp://pastebin.ca/95115001:57
sommerif not, it's probably fine to just create an unsigned package01:57
sommerah, one more package you'll need apt-get install cdbs01:58
j1mcwould i place it in here?  http://pastebin.ca/95115401:58
sommerya, but I forget the commands01:59
j1mcah, installing that cdbs package helped01:59
j1mcit is working  :)  dpkg-source: building xubuntu-docs in xubuntu-docs_8.04.1ubuntu1.tar.gz02:00
sommercool, if you want to sign the package here's the gpg link:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto02:01
sommerya the package should be in ../*.dsc02:01
sommerit's usually best to test it: sudo pbuilder build *.dsc02:02
j1mcfull output: http://pastebin.ca/95116102:02
sommercool, yep everything worked... just not signed02:02
sommershould be okay02:03
j1mcif i wanted to sign the package, i could redo the steps we've done (later) following the wiki above?02:03
j1mc(to sign the package)02:04
sommerya, once you have the key installed, rebuild using: debuild -S -kgpgkey02:04
sommerit should then ask you the key password at the end of the build process02:04
j1mcok02:04
j1mcis the package built now, though?02:05
j1mcwhat would be the next step?02:05
sommerhave you done the pbuilder?02:05
j1mcno02:05
sommersudo pbuilder build *.dsc02:05
j1mcsudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc02:06
j1mcis that right?  w the "/" in there?02:06
sommerheh... that too, depending on which directory you're in02:06
j1mci will try it with the /02:06
sommeryou should see xubuntu-docs_8.04.1ubuntu1.dsc or something similar02:07
sommerif not in your current directory then in ../02:07
j1mcok... i see it in ../  it's doing some work now... downloading stuff.02:08
j1mcshould be just a minute or two more02:08
sommercool, ya it'll take some time02:09
sommerI gotta take the dog out, be back in a sec02:10
j1mcok02:10
sommerI'm back02:12
sommerstill building?02:12
j1mcjust finished02:14
j1mcno errors...02:14
sommercool, the .deb should be in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/02:15
sommeryou can install it with sudo dpkg -i02:15
j1mcschwing!02:17
j1mchaha02:17
j1mcthis rocks02:17
sommerparty!02:17
j1mchaha02:17
j1mcok... so now what do i do?  i think i'll want to rebuild that package as signed02:17
sommerso I guess the next step is to file a bug asking for someone to upload it, and attache the .dsc file to the bug02:17
sommeror, ya rebuilding works :-)02:18
sommerschaaaawing... heh02:18
j1mcok... the .dsc file from my /var/cache/pbuilder/result folder?02:18
j1mcor the first one?02:18
sommersure, I think it's just a copy of the ../ one02:19
sommereither or02:19
j1mcok02:19
j1mcawesome.02:19
j1mcdo i file the bug against the xubuntu-docs package?02:19
sommerI think mdke filed a bug for the ubuntu-docs package a while back, but I can't seem to find it02:19
j1mchm...02:22
j1mci can't find it either02:22
sommerya, I guess just file it under xubuntu-docs, then you might ask in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu about the next step02:24
dsasbug 192488 perhaps02:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192488 in ubuntu-docs "Please update ubuntu-docs from bzr" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19248802:24
sommerboom! that's the one I was thinking of :-)02:25
sommerdsas: thanks02:25
j1mcshould i reopen that?02:25
j1mcit's shown as fixed-released02:25
sommerI'd create a new one, since it's a different package02:26
sommerbut you could follow that format02:26
sommerSubscribed ubuntu-main-sponsors... I think is what calls the attention of those needed to update the pacakge02:27
j1mcand still attache the .dsc file?  matthew didn't do that02:27
sommerumm... I don't think it'll hurt02:27
sommerit'll show that it at least build :-)02:28
j1mcso they'll build it... i just test it on my own machine to make sure before asking them to do it?02:28
sommeryep, I think that's the process02:28
j1mcok.  cool.02:28
j1mcthanks so much for your help.02:28
sommernot a problem02:29
j1mcparty on... have a good evening02:29
sommerheh, party on j1mc02:29
ubotuNew bug: #204501 in ubuntu-doc "Please update Xubuntu docs from bzr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20450105:31
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ubotuNew bug: #204666 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Please upload ubuntu-docs 8.03.3 from bzr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20466615:01
nijabaHello, does anyone know if doc.ubuntu.com has been updated since the 19th?21:12
nijabaI know that sommer has done some excellent update of the server guide but I don't see them reflected yet21:13
Bonzodogmdke21:30
Bonzodogyou here21:30
Bonzodogright, i have something to say21:56
BonzodogYes, the UDSF is shutting down.21:57
Bonzodogbut NOT because of you lot21:57
Bonzodogmark DID ask us (nicely) to shut it down21:57
Bonzodogbut we were getting short on manpower21:57
Bonzodogand other facilities to run it, anyway21:58
Bonzodoghowever, we DO  now have the Ubuntu Gaming Arena, which has Marks *full Blessing21:58
Bonzodogand it's proven to be a runaway success21:59
jpatrickBonzodog: can you please tell me what UDSF is?21:59
Bonzodogso we decided that for the greater sanity of everybody that the UDSF had it's day, and it's server space and bandwidth is going to expanding the UGA as the main face of Gaming facilities in Ubuntu22:00
Bonzodogjpatrick: the UDSF is (until the end of the month) the Ubuntu Document Storage Facility22:00
jpatrickah, thanks :)22:01
Bonzodogwhich was being used to document how-to's from the forums22:01
Bonzodoga lot of which are fast becoming out-moded anyway22:01
Bonzodogdue to the increasing automation in ubuntu22:02
sommerBonzodog: have you considered submitting the content to the System docs?22:08
sommerBonzodog: or adding it to the help.ubuntu.com wiki?22:09
sommerBonzodog: also is the UGA a game server? or something else?22:15
Bonzodogsommer: I canot use the moin moin wiki...it's torture22:20
Bonzodogand it's slow22:20
Bonzodoglike really slow22:20
Bonzodogconsidering the servers are just a few miles from me22:21
sommerya, I can understand that22:21
Bonzodogthe UGA is a gaming Wiki, yes, but it also can host massive online gaming22:22
sommerdo you have plans for the content?  just curouis... I've never been to the site22:22
BonzodogI really do not like mon moin22:22
Bonzodogwell, i'm not sure the content would be of any ise to you lot22:22
sommerwell if it helps people to accomplish what they want to do with Ubuntu, I'd think it'd at least be worth looking through :-)22:23
sommerwhat form is the conent in now?  html, text...22:24
Bonzodogtext22:28
Bonzodogfor dokuwiki22:28
Bonzodogdokuwiki is very efficient22:29
Bonzodogthe UGA uses it as well22:29
Bonzodogscales up well, and is very fast22:29
Bonzodoganyways, i have to go22:29
Bonzodoglater22:30
sommerwhat kind of topics does it cover?  I must admit I'm really only interested in server type stuff :)22:30
sommerdoh22:30

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