| Jazzva | asac: I suppose it's not ok to test against 3.0b5pre, right? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | depends :) | 00:04 |
| asac | if install.rdf says 3.0b4 ... it might look like broken, while it most likely would work | 00:04 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, well I suppose it says something larger, as it's not broken in pre5 :). | 00:05 |
| asac | if it works its fine | 00:06 |
| Jazzva | ok... | 00:08 |
| fta | armin76, http://cairographics.org//news/cairo-1.5.14/ | 00:54 |
| Jazzva | asac, should I set the firefox extensions dir to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b4 or .../firefox-addons? The second one, right? | 02:25 |
| Jazzva | asac, it looks like it builds fine with a few minor changes to files in debian/ | 02:34 |
| Jazzva | It shows up in add-ons list... I will check that new packaging page, to see what's the process on uploading to bzr. I would like if you could check it :). | 02:35 |
| Jazzva | asav, I'm off to sleep now. I have a few more questions about some details, so I will upload after that. | 02:57 |
| Jazzva | Night, everyone... | 02:57 |
| armin76 | fta_: heh, don't blame me :P | 09:39 |
| armin76 | any thought what could be the problem? | 09:39 |
| armin76 | i've tried with internal cairo, still the same | 09:39 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | Jazzva: great | 11:57 |
| asac | sorry ... fall asleep yesterday | 11:57 |
| asac | good ... tinderbox not burning anymore :) | 12:00 |
| asac | 1.8.0 one was burning yesterday ;) | 12:00 |
| asac | mozilla bug 202468 | 12:13 |
| asac | bug 202468 | 12:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202468 in ubuntu "FFe: update swfdec-* to 0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202468 | 12:14 |
| jtv | asac: ping | 12:43 |
| jtv | asac: could you take a look at this experimental export: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jtv/en-US-export.tar.gz | 12:45 |
| jtv | asac: and tell me if there's anything wrong? I may still clean up the context strings a bit to be prettier, but it shouldn't make a functional difference. Look for msgctxt to see the change. | 12:45 |
| jtv | asac: never mind the project name, I picked a handy different project for testing. | 12:47 |
| asac | let met take a quick look | 12:56 |
| asac | will be out in a few minutes for a few hours | 12:56 |
| asac | jtv: | 12:58 |
| asac | #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/cookie/cookieAcceptDialog.dtd(dialog.title) | 12:58 |
| asac | msgctxt "cookie/cookieAcceptDialog.dtd(dialog.title)" | 12:58 |
| asac | why does that one has a ctxt? | 12:58 |
| asac | its not a platform thing | 12:58 |
| asac | and: | 12:58 |
| asac | #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/cookie/cookieAcceptDialog.dtd(button.deny.accesskey) | 12:58 |
| asac | msgid "button.deny.accesskey" | 12:58 |
| asac | what does that have a key as msgid? (vs. english text) | 12:58 |
| asac | this: | 12:59 |
| asac | #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/global-platform/mac/accessible.properties:1(jump) | 12:59 |
| jtv | asac: I ended up giving any message with a clashing key a msgctxt. | 12:59 |
| asac | msgctxt "mac/accessible.properties:1(jump)" | 12:59 |
| asac | looks good ... though i thought the ctxt would have just been mac | 12:59 |
| asac | jtv: so the cookieAcceptDialog clashes | 12:59 |
| * asac looking | 12:59 | |
| jtv | asac: this way it works for any clash, not just mac/unix/windows ones. | 12:59 |
| jtv | (Just sent you an email too) | 13:00 |
| asac | ok makes sense | 13:00 |
| jtv | Keyboard shortcuts are handled slightly differently because they are, well, different. | 13:00 |
| jtv | Not sure what else we could do about them. | 13:00 |
| asac | stil lthere are msgid's with the entitiy key? | 13:00 |
| asac | like the button.deny.accesskey | 13:01 |
| jtv | asac: I don't think there's much else we could do... There is no real "original English" for a key. | 13:01 |
| asac | hmm | 13:02 |
| asac | how do you detect that its a key? | 13:02 |
| jtv | Let me look that up... | 13:02 |
| jtv | Its identifier ends with .accesskey or .commandkey. | 13:03 |
| asac | ok sorry ... have to run (visit father in hospital). will think about it while away. | 13:03 |
| jtv | Best wishes. | 13:04 |
| asac | thx | 13:04 |
| armin76 | okay, my problem with bath rendering is lcms, i think... | 15:54 |
| fta | lcms ? | 16:20 |
| armin76 | yeah... | 16:26 |
| armin76 | some stuff ff3 uses | 16:26 |
| armin76 | www.littlecms.com | 16:26 |
| armin76 | err | 16:27 |
| armin76 | yep, .com | 16:27 |
| armin76 | that, or -image-encoder=all | 16:27 |
| armin76 | --enable-image-encoder=all | 16:28 |
| armin76 | or --enable-system-lcms | 16:28 |
| armin76 | will find out when it finishes | 16:29 |
| asac | jtv: ok. for the access and controlkey it would be really good to have the actual values in it (as msgid or msgstr) | 16:38 |
| jtv | asac: you mean the actual key? | 16:39 |
| asac | jtv: yes | 16:39 |
| asac | at best in the same way as other translations | 16:39 |
| asac | we have to insert them in the .dtd .properties | 16:40 |
| asac | no idea where else i could take them from | 16:40 |
| jtv | I see | 16:40 |
| asac | not sure if you can disable them from being translatable in launchpad | 16:40 |
| jtv | asac: take a look. I've got a demo import at https://translations.staging.launchpad.net/libpqxx/trunk | 16:41 |
| armin76 | is not lcms... | 16:41 |
| asac | jtv: sorry :) ... i haven't used launchpad for translations :) | 16:42 |
| asac | let me look | 16:43 |
| jtv | asac: shame on you! :-) | 16:43 |
| asac | jtv: so ... what do you need? | 16:43 |
| asac | (as translations) | 16:43 |
| fta | asac, npviewer.bin is killing my laptop battery | 16:43 |
| asac | we have the upstream .xpis ... carlos imported the de.xpi | 16:44 |
| asac | it needs to be imported twice as it contains translations for both: xul + ffox | 16:44 |
| asac | fta: yes. there is a merge waiting for upload that might help i guess | 16:44 |
| asac | but flash usually kills batteries anyways | 16:44 |
| armin76 | heh | 16:45 |
| jtv | asac: right now, I'd like the translations files so I can import them and see if there are any problems. | 16:45 |
| jtv | asac: also of course, we need to figure out just what to about those keys. | 16:45 |
| armin76 | [reed]: mozilla/source/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk <- contains a parameter which works only with findutils, not on bsd, should i file a bug? | 16:45 |
| armin76 | 422 find $(DIST)/include -xtype f -exec $(SYSINSTALL) $(IFLAGS1) {} $(DESTDIR)$(includedir)/unstable \; | 16:46 |
| armin76 | -xtype doesn't work on bsd | 16:46 |
| asac | jtv: ok ... carlos just imported the upstream de.xpi twice | 16:46 |
| asac | jtv: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b4/win32/xpi/ | 16:47 |
| asac | there are all translations | 16:47 |
| asac | that currently exist upstream | 16:47 |
| asac | each needs to be imported for firefox + xulrunner | 16:47 |
| asac | do you need anything else? | 16:48 |
| asac | jtv: ? | 16:48 |
| jtv | asac: I'm looking... | 16:48 |
| jtv | asac: carlos said we have to import all of them. | 16:48 |
| jtv | asac: when you mentioned "twice," you mean in two separate projects? | 16:49 |
| asac | jtv: yes. we have a split | 16:49 |
| asac | e.g. xulrunner + firefox | 16:49 |
| asac | but upstream doesn't | 16:49 |
| asac | however all xulrunner strings should be in the upstream firefox xpis | 16:50 |
| asac | jtv: makes sense? | 16:50 |
| jtv | asac: sorry for the stupid questions, just want to make sure I get it right: you want them uploaded for the upstream projects "xulrunner" and "firefox" (not abbreviations for different project names), on a test server, right? | 16:51 |
| asac | so our xulrunner template has a subset of what is in upstream de.xpi ... same for our firefox template. but carlos said this isn't a problem as we can import the same translation for both projects | 16:51 |
| jtv | asac: ah, so I only upload the translations, not including the templates. | 16:51 |
| asac | jtv: you already have the templates don't you? | 16:51 |
| asac | i sent two en-US.xpi to carlos at some point | 16:51 |
| asac | e.g. one for xulrunner and another for firefox | 16:52 |
| jtv | asac: I only have the one you sent me a link for. | 16:52 |
| armin76 | what strings does xulrunner need translated? | 16:52 |
| asac | jtv: which link is that? | 16:52 |
| asac | armin76: all | 16:52 |
| jtv | asac: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/en-US.xpi | 16:53 |
| asac | jtv: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.translations.tar.gz | 16:54 |
| asac | there are two en-US.xpi in, but only one de.xi | 16:55 |
| asac | xpi | 16:55 |
| asac | because the de.xpi contains translations for both | 16:55 |
| asac | so the en-US.xpi get imported as template (e.g. xulrunner and firefox) | 16:55 |
| asac | and then the de.xpi get imported as translation for xulrunner and firefox | 16:55 |
| asac | makes sense? | 16:55 |
| jtv | Yeah, thanks for explaining. Upload the two templates to the two projects, then the same translations to both. | 16:56 |
| asac | right | 16:56 |
| jtv | asac: I'll start doing that. I'll also think about what to do about those keys. | 16:56 |
| asac | nd you can upload anything in the http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b4/win32/xpi/ | 16:57 |
| asac | if you want more translations | 16:57 |
| asac | the de.xpi included ht ein test.translations.tar.gz is just one of them | 16:57 |
| jtv | asac: Carlos said to upload all translations, so I'll do that. | 16:57 |
| jtv | here's hoping! | 16:57 |
| asac | ;) | 16:57 |
| asac | wait a second | 16:57 |
| * jtv waits a second | 16:57 | |
| asac | jtv: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b3/win32/xpi/ | 16:58 |
| asac | use those. the test.translations are for beta 3 | 16:58 |
| asac | so maybe use the b3 ones to remove any potential confusion | 16:58 |
| asac | thanks! | 16:58 |
| jtv | ok | 16:59 |
| * asac in holiday mode again | 17:00 | |
| jtv | asac: Feierabend! | 17:02 |
| jtv | asac: I may go for dinner now as well. | 17:03 |
| asac | hehe | 17:03 |
| asac | heute ist karfreitag :) | 17:03 |
| asac | public holiday | 17:03 |
| jtv | asac: ah, I live in a Buddhist country so... ;-) | 17:03 |
| asac | right ... but you have other public holidays as well i guess | 17:03 |
| jtv | asac: the fix that adds the context strings is in the PQM queue. | 17:03 |
| jtv | asac: lots of them. | 17:03 |
| jtv | asac: you should come see Songkran someday. Bring a super-soaker. | 17:04 |
| asac | yes, i think even more than the bavarians have | 17:04 |
| asac | songkran? | 17:04 |
| jtv | It's basically Thai new year. | 17:05 |
| jtv | People chuck water at one another. | 17:05 |
| asac | ah | 17:06 |
| jtv | And if you're lucky, the guy coming at you with a big ton of water in the back of a pickup truck doesn't have any large chunks of ice in it. | 17:06 |
| asac | i think i had something like new year while i was on ko phi phi | 17:06 |
| jtv | Ah! | 17:06 |
| asac | they send boats to the see | 17:06 |
| asac | sea | 17:06 |
| jtv | Mid-April? | 17:06 |
| jtv | I've never been to Phi Pi | 17:06 |
| asac | no that was in october/november | 17:06 |
| jtv | Phi Phi | 17:06 |
| jtv | Ah, that must've been loy kratong. | 17:06 |
| asac | i remember that some people said it was "like new years eve" | 17:07 |
| jtv | On the mainland people float little... floaters on the rivers and canals. With candles. | 17:07 |
| asac | yeah right | 17:07 |
| asac | it looked good, but it was windy so lots of boats sank :) | 17:07 |
| asac | jtv: funny that you have never been there :) ... most likely i have seen more of thailand then you then :) ... i travelled for a bit more than a month around. | 17:08 |
| jtv | asac: well next time, let me know :) | 17:08 |
| jtv | You never really do these things when you live there | 17:08 |
| asac | unfortunately there was kind of flood which is why i didn't get to the notrh | 17:08 |
| asac | yeah i can see that | 17:08 |
| asac | i haven't seen much of germany either | 17:08 |
| fta | asac, do you know how to solve the "no ACPI power usage estimate available" in powertop ? | 17:09 |
| * jtv is getting really hungry now | 17:13 | |
| jtv | asac: one thing... you'll need to set the "uses Launchpad for translations" flag for those two projects on staging. | 17:14 |
| jtv | asac: in fact, best do it on production as well so I can test even after staging refreshes. | 17:14 |
| asac | fta: load some acpi module? | 17:16 |
| asac | jtv: where to set that flag? | 17:17 |
| asac | fta: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/ | 17:17 |
| asac | is there a state file? | 17:17 |
| asac | what does cat that yield? | 17:17 |
| jtv | asac: No, in the project settings. | 17:18 |
| fta | yes | 17:18 |
| jtv | asac: oh, that's assuming you own those projects... do you? | 17:18 |
| asac | jtv: hmm project? | 17:18 |
| asac | like launchpad.net/firefox ? | 17:18 |
| jtv | asac: firefox & xulrunner | 17:18 |
| jtv | asac: right | 17:18 |
| asac | like launchpad.net/xulrunner ? | 17:18 |
| jtv | asac: if you don't, never mind, I can hack around it. | 17:19 |
| asac | jtv: i am adriver for those projects | 17:19 |
| asac | let me see if i can find anything | 17:19 |
| fta | present rate: 1354 mA | 17:20 |
| fta | remaining capacity: 7714 mAh | 17:20 |
| fta | present voltage: 12409 mV | 17:20 |
| jtv | asac: it's under the regular project properties, not under the Translations tab | 17:20 |
| asac | ok i select "translations for this projet is done in launchpad" right? | 17:20 |
| asac | ok did that i nproduction | 17:21 |
| asac | where is the staging thing? | 17:21 |
| jtv | asac: right. staging is the same but staging.launchpad.net as the hostname. | 17:22 |
| asac | jtv: on demo i appear to not have proper permissions. | 17:22 |
| asac | ah ok trying staging | 17:22 |
| jtv | asac: never mind demo, I can't do much there either, and it's old code. | 17:23 |
| jtv | asac: staging is a nice playground to test yesterday's development version. | 17:23 |
| asac | nope ... no permissions to change details on staging either | 17:23 |
| asac | just production fixed | 17:23 |
| asac | can you workaround or should i request to fix this in staging? | 17:24 |
| asac | jtv: stupid me | 17:24 |
| asac | i wasn't logged in :) | 17:24 |
| asac | haha | 17:24 |
| jtv | X-) | 17:25 |
| asac | jtv: ok done - i think | 17:26 |
| asac | https://staging.launchpad.net/xulrunner and https://staging.launchpad.net/firefox | 17:26 |
| jtv | asac: thanks. I've downloaded the XPIs and will be uploading them... tomorrow or something. It's past midnight here. | 17:26 |
| asac | jtv: thanks a lot for your help on this. | 17:27 |
| asac | ill be around over the weekend ... but in holiday mode too :) | 17:27 |
| asac | cu | 17:27 |
| jtv | asac: good night :) | 17:27 |
| asac | fta: that looks good | 17:30 |
| asac | there is a present rate available | 17:30 |
| asac | no idea what power top complains about | 17:30 |
| fta | i'm around 45-52°C doing nothing, it's too high for my taste | 17:33 |
| fta | and for the fan too ;) | 17:34 |
| adam_c_ | hey alex, you around? i got those debdiffs up on the swfdec bug | 17:42 |
| fta | mozilla bug 128505 | 17:43 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 128505 in Embedding: GTK Widget "Gtkmozembed raise window when not necessary" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128505 | 17:43 |
| fta | mozilla bug 335742 | 17:43 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 335742 in General "Does not respect window manager policy - raising window" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335742 | 17:43 |
| asac | adam_c_: bugid plz | 17:44 |
| adam_c_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/202468 | 17:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202468 in ubuntu "FFe: update swfdec-* to 0.6" [Undecided,New] | 17:44 |
| asac | fta: are cpus scaled down? | 17:44 |
| asac | for me neither screen was dimmed nor cpu scaled down | 17:45 |
| asac | now is scale them and even turn off one core to safe energy | 17:45 |
| fta | asac, no | 17:45 |
| asac | and i am running a script that trimms down the fan | 17:45 |
| asac | because bios is too conservative | 17:45 |
| asac | e.g. it starts to fan at 40 Degree | 17:45 |
| asac | fta: you can try laptop mode | 17:46 |
| asac | that might help ... its turned of because it breaks some systems (e.g. locks them) | 17:46 |
| asac | fta: /etc/default/acpi-support | 17:46 |
| fta | temp raises up to 53, the fan speeds up down to 41 then slows down | 17:46 |
| asac | LAPTOP_MODE | 17:46 |
| asac | hmm ... if cppu is scaled then i don't know | 17:47 |
| fta | hm, dom inspector is reported as incompatible | 17:55 |
| fta | using b4 from hardy | 17:55 |
| asac | fta: stop ffox | 17:56 |
| asac | rm extensions.* from your profile | 17:56 |
| asac | maybe you ran ffox 2? | 17:56 |
| fta | it's on my brand new laptop so no | 17:56 |
| asac | but is the install.rdf right? | 17:56 |
| asac | then remove the extensions.* files in your profile and try | 17:56 |
| fta | NS1:minVersion="3.0a1" | 17:57 |
| fta | NS1:maxVersion="3.0b4pre" /> | 17:57 |
| fta | in :~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/extensions.rdf | 17:57 |
| fta | that's bad | 17:57 |
| asac | yes wasn't updated | 17:58 |
| asac | remove that file and start again | 17:58 |
| fta | hm, i remember something about it being no longer part of the build | 17:58 |
| fta | confirmed: http://mxr.mozilla.org/firefox/source/extensions/inspector/install.rdf#11 | 17:59 |
| fta | damned | 18:00 |
| asac | interesting | 18:01 |
| asac | where is it maintained now? | 18:01 |
| asac | not being part of the build doesn't mean that its not updated in cvs anymore imo | 18:02 |
| fta | mozilla bug 339229 | 18:03 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 339229 in Build Config "Stop shipping DOM Inspector in Firefox builds" [Normal,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339229 | 18:04 |
| fta | http://shawnwilsher.com/archives/141 | 18:04 |
| fta | I guess we should follow | 18:05 |
| fta | and continue to ship it like the other addons | 18:05 |
| fta | it's needed for prism | 18:05 |
| asac | right | 18:05 |
| fta | ok, I guess I could expect ~6h of battery | 18:06 |
| fta | asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/cairo/1.5.14-0ubuntu1 | 18:08 |
| asac | good | 18:11 |
| asac | ok going out for dinner and having drinks | 18:12 |
| asac | most likely be back in a fe whours | 18:12 |
| fta | cu | 18:12 |
| [reed] | armin76: sure | 20:46 |
| === fta2_ is now known as fta2 | ||
| asac | back | 21:40 |
| fta2 | Bug 204753 | 21:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204753 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox shown in wrong menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204753 | 21:42 |
| fta2 | Bug 204480 | 21:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204480 in firefox-3.0 "Window position is not remembered between starts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204480 | 21:42 |
| asac | fta2: i htink there is another bug about the wrong menu | 21:52 |
| asac | at least i have a private maili with a fixed .desktop file somewhere | 21:53 |
| armin76 | why you guys aren't using system lcms | 22:11 |
| armin76 | ? | 22:11 |
| asac | maybe a point to reconsider | 22:24 |
| asac | armin76: what are the version requirements for that? | 22:27 |
| asac | ok >= 1.17 | 22:34 |
| asac | apt-cache show liblcms1 | grep Version: | 22:35 |
| asac | Version: 1.16-7ubuntu1 | 22:35 |
| asac | sound lame | 22:36 |
| asac | debian has 1.16-8 | 22:37 |
| asac | so not an option | 22:37 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| fta | !info lcms experimental | 22:41 |
| ubotu | Package lcms does not exist in gutsy | 22:41 |
| fta | !info lcms sid | 22:41 |
| ubotu | Package lcms does not exist in sid | 22:41 |
| fta | !info liblcms1 experimental | 22:41 |
| ubotu | liblcms1 (source: lcms): Color management library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.16-5ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 248 kB | 22:42 |
| fta | pff | 22:42 |
| fta | nm | 22:42 |
| [reed] | fta: so, is there any problem on our side? | 23:33 |
| [reed] | re-jemalloc in libxul | 23:33 |
| [reed] | re: | 23:33 |
| fta | everything is in the bug | 23:34 |
| [reed] | I'm asking you here | 23:34 |
| [reed] | is there anything we need to do on our side for b5? | 23:34 |
| [reed] | or can you all just disable those compiler flags for now? | 23:35 |
| fta | i've disabled that ld flag but it's not very satisfactory as it's a performance regression | 23:35 |
| [reed] | how much of a regression? | 23:36 |
| fta | as i said in the bug, it "feels" slower but i don't have figures to give as i haven't profiled it | 23:36 |
| fta | asac, what do you think ? could we live with that for b5 ? | 23:43 |
| asac | [reed]: fta: we can drop the flag for now. anyway, moving jemalloc to the bins is a better long term solution (e.g. for firefox 3 final maybe) | 23:56 |
| [reed] | ok, can one of you reply to beltzner's comment saying that this isn't a b5 blocker for you now? | 23:57 |
| [reed] | and set priority to P1 and TM to Firefox 3 | 23:57 |
| [reed] | er | 23:57 |
| [reed] | P2 | 23:57 |
| fta | ok | 23:57 |
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