[00:00] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok :) ... i'll take a look
[00:00] <bastian> hola
[00:00] <bastian> que tal
[00:00] <brianlight> Flyerfye what are you trying to install?
[00:00] <bastian> cm estan
[00:00] <bastian> bien o mal
[00:00] <Flannel> !es | bastian
[00:00] <ubotu> bastian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:01] <Flyerfye> UT2004
[00:02] <mDemocritus> what's up steve
[00:02] <crshman> thanks Flannel!
[00:02] <jshriver_> hello
[00:02] <jshriver_> I added a new user for my girlfriend, but when she logs into her account it's like the wm isn't loading.
[00:02] <brianlight> are you using the install program on disk?
[00:02] <jshriver_> I get the top and bottom bars, but when I launch a program it has now window
[00:02] <jshriver_> any ideas?
[00:03] <brianlight> copy the install program to desktop then try running it from there
[00:03] <mDemocritus> sayers: hah i know where you work
[00:03] <brianlight> if you are running the install program from cdrom dvdrom it may not let you eject
[00:03] <brianlight> when you need to change disks
[00:03] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok. are you able to see all the partitions on your disk at the moment. or are some still missing? can you run the command blkid in a terminal and pastebin the output for me?
[00:04] <andylockran> you too Mik1
[00:04] <andylockran> :p
[00:04] <sayers> mDemocritus, do you even know me?
[00:04] <mDemocritus> heh i believe so
[00:04] <jshriver_> what is the gnome wm called?
[00:04] <bazhang> !ot
[00:04] <mDemocritus> you live in IL, no?
[00:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:04] <unop> jshriver_, metacity
[00:04] <jshriver_> let me try running that, brb
[00:04] <tiags> pum
[00:04] <brianlight> Flyerfye you may also want to get an updated installer from http://liflg.org/
[00:05] <sayers> mDemocritus, no I live in michigan
[00:05] <mDemocritus> whoops... the nick looked familiar...   /offtopic
[00:05] <unop> jshriver_, what you could do is delete the ~/.gnome, ~/.gconf and ~/.metacity directories in her $HOME dir, it usually resets everything back to the defults
[00:05] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60357/
[00:06] <danand_> Matthe1 - cool .... think you deleted one of the entries for your /dev/hda partitions ...
[00:06] <Matthe1> danand_: eek!
[00:07] <danand_> Matthe1 - just gonna take a look ...
[00:07] <adorablepuppy> Anyone know of a way to browse the filesystem on a BREW based phone on linux? I tried bitpim, but there is too much restriction on the directories I can enter.
[00:07]  * danand_ reminds Matthe1 to always make a copy of important files when editing...
[00:08] <Matthe1> danand_: But that would be sensible and not half as fun....... ;-)
[00:08] <brynjolf> How do I disable a network card from loading with networkManager? I tried blacklisting r8169 but somehow it finds it anyhow
[00:08] <Mik1> Hey people -Can ask - trying to get Ubuntu (Gutsy - i think) installed on a Dell Lattitude D800 - having problems setting up an external USB keyboard & mouse - keyboard works - mouse appears (in /dev/input) but it doesn't work - anyone got any ideas - I'm thinking it might be X11 Configuration?
[00:09] <jshriver_> thanks, if I type metacity in it starts fine and I have borders now
[00:09] <jshriver_> but as soon as I log out and log back in it's not starting metacity
[00:09] <danand_> Matthe1 - my mistake ... both your hda partitions are ok ... :)
[00:09] <unop> Mik1, you can try reconfiguring xorg - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  by default the x config looks at /dev/input/mice  - Try rebooting with the mouse plugged in? try  try just restrting the x Server with it plugged in?
[00:09] <Matthe1> danand_: phew!
[00:09] <unop> jshriver_, what you could do is delete the ~/.gnome, ~/.gconf and ~/.metacity directories in her $HOME dir, it usually resets everything back to the defults
[00:10] <Pelo> jshriver_, open the appearance dialog,  click on desktropi effects,  select the custom one,  and check the decorator box
[00:10] <Mik1> unop : i'm running the live DVD version - can I still run that?
[00:10] <jshriver_> k thanks
[00:10] <compu73rg33k> I'm have the amd64 bit architecture, but I'm running xchat and it fails to load the fish plugin citing "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[00:10] <unop> Mik1, sure
[00:10] <Pelo> compu73rg33k, ask in #xchat
[00:10] <compu73rg33k> I would  be willing to install the i386 version of xchat, but  how do I go about doing that, is that possible on amd64/
[00:10] <RabidWeezle> psst, why does emacs have a psychotherapist built in?
[00:11] <RabidWeezle> is that concidered useful in a text editor these days?
[00:11] <Mik1> Dr_willis - I just booted with the wireless USB dongle attached - it's a wireless deskset...
[00:11] <Pelo> compu73rg33k, 32 bit os work on 64 bit machines,  in fact when in comes to ubuntu we recommend it
[00:11] <compu73rg33k> Pelo, I came in here b/c of the second part of my message, sorry shoulda included it in the first
[00:11] <Mik1> Dr_willis : but no sign of life in the mouse...
[00:11] <compu73rg33k> because packages just aren't up to speed of adoption?
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  check dmesg command, befor/after plugging in the dongle.
[00:12] <danand_> Matthe1 - was that the only output from blkid command? if so, take a look in /dev/disk/by-uuid.... does ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid list your /dev/hdb drive?
[00:12] <Pelo> compu73rg33k,  I'm not sure about running 32 bit apps on 64 bits os,  I know it can be done with the proper 32 bit libs but it's a bit over my head
[00:12] <compu73rg33k> well I downloaded from the ubuntu site the i386 version and tried to install it with "dpkg -i package.deb" and it erred " package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[00:12] <compu73rg33k> "
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> Mik1:  also you may need to hit the reset button on the mouse if it has one. some of mine do
[00:12] <Matthe1> danand_: yes it does
[00:13] <danand_> Matthe1 - sorry ... can you pastebin it... for some reason your /dev/hdb disk didn't show up in the blkid command output :(
[00:14] <Matthe1> danand_: will I have more luck using the UUID in my fstab file?#
[00:14] <unop> compu73rg33k, i think it'd be best if you installed xchat32 in a 32 bit chroot -- see !chroot for more
[00:14] <danand_> Matthe1 - its the "correct" way to do it really
[00:14] <compu73rg33k> !chroot
[00:14] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[00:14] <Matthe1> danand_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60359/
[00:14]  * Pelo just learned something 
[00:15] <Flannel> compu73rg33k: Whats wrong with the 64bit version of xchat?
[00:15] <arooni-mobile> is there software that lets me simply & easily edit 3 or 4 video files.... all i want to do is cut them together to upload to youtube.......... how can i do this?
[00:16] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, avidemux
[00:16] <danand_> Matthe1 - ok, cool. Give me ten mins... i'll try and sort out that /etc/fstab file for you :) .... its a bit of a mess....
[00:16] <Dek80> Hello all
[00:16] <CokeNCode> ok, so, i blew up my motherboard, and had to swap it out for a new one
[00:16] <CokeNCode> how do i go about reparing my ubuntu installation
[00:16] <danand_> Matthe1 - i'll brb...
[00:16] <CokeNCode> so that it'll work with my new motherboard
[00:16] <Mik1> Dr_willis - wow - I just ran dmesg - is that like a complete dump of the memory?
[00:16] <compu73rg33k> Flannel, fish plugin doesn't work for me
[00:17] <jappdev> CokeNCode: did you change the HD?
[00:17] <Pelo> CokeNCode, copy your /home folder to a seperate partiton and clean install
[00:17] <unop> arooni-mobile, check out ffmpeg or mplayer's mencoder to convert a bunch of video files to a single .flv
[00:17] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, ok so i have it downloaded & opened the 5 videos
[00:17] <CokeNCode> jappdev nope
[00:17] <CokeNCode> same hard drive
[00:17] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, whats next?'
[00:17] <CokeNCode> just a different motherboard
[00:17] <kitche> Mik1: umm no it's a boot log or a kernel log depending on which log you want to look at
[00:17] <CokeNCode> i want to repair the ubuntu installation
[00:18] <CokeNCode> the only thing that has changed, is the motherboard
[00:18] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, clip and paste
[00:18] <CokeNCode> and chiop
[00:18] <CokeNCode> *chip
[00:18] <Matthe1> danand_: brilliant, thanks, I might have to run before you get back. Will leave logging on so I don't miss anything.
[00:18] <Mik1> Dr_willis : got some more information : from dmesg
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] input,hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MOSART Semi. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[00:18] <Mik1> [    4.688000] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[00:18] <jappdev> well, the safest way is to backup your home and clean install, like Pelo said, but it might boot w/o problem if you havent' changed too much
[00:18] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, which menu is that on
[00:18] <kitche> !paste | Mik1
[00:18] <ubotu> Mik1: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:18] <fuoco> ciao a tutti
[00:18] <kitche> Mik1: please paste that information since it can clutter the channel
[00:19] <bazhang> !it | fuoco
[00:19] <ubotu> fuoco: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:19] <unop> !it | fuoco
[00:19] <fuoco> ok scusa
[00:19] <fuoco> buona notte
[00:19] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, i'm really trying hard to figure out how this works
[00:19] <arooni-mobile> but cant
[00:19] <fuoco> ;)
[00:19] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, using the button at the bottom select the portion of movie you want to select,  use the copy in the edit menu to copy, then change files,  seelct where in the file you want to paste and paste from the the edit menu
[00:19] <danand_> Matthe1 - k :) will pastebin the link
[00:20] <CokeNCode> thanks jappdev
[00:20] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  if you don'T need to clip the videos,  I beleve there is a add a file to video in the menus somewhere
[00:20] <Mik1> ok - so http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60360/
[00:20] <CokeNCode> i have a windows server 2003 hard drive in here also
[00:20] <CokeNCode> which i disconnect when i'm running ubuntu
[00:20] <CokeNCode> and i had to do a repair on that
[00:20] <compu73rg33k> hmm unop you think it's worth it to make a chroot install of 32 bit just for this? seems liek it'll clutter the computer, and is a little complicated ... is it easy to do?
[00:20] <CokeNCode> so, i was wondering if i'd have to do the same thing with ubuntu
[00:20] <Mik1> i think this shows the presence of the mouse, and it being on the USB Hub
[00:20] <CokeNCode> the repair worked like a charm
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, you're right
[00:21] <CokeNCode> i have a bunch of setting that i don't want to lose
[00:21] <CokeNCode> like, firestarter
[00:21] <CokeNCode> etc
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, how can i reduce the resolution
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> of the file
[00:21] <arooni-mobile> the output
[00:21] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  you just lost 10 points for doubting
[00:21]  * arooni-mobile sighs :(
[00:21] <jappdev> if you back up your home directory, it will grab all of your settings (i just had and hd die and restored from a backup of /home, lost nothing)
[00:22] <Pelo> arooni-mobile,  on the left, see the buttons for vdeo , audio,  change from copy to the output format you want,  this will enable the filter  button , you can select stuff from there
[00:22] <high-bass> guys i have been tring for ages to get my sound working... i had a problem where sond would come form speakers and headphones.. so i read up that newest alsa drivers would fix the problem... i compiled and installed them but now my system doesnt even detect a sound card! can somone please help me out!
[00:22] <unop> compu73rg33k, well, it is a little complicated -- but only a _little_ .. as long as you follow the instructions, i dont see any problems .. and no, it shouldnt clutter your computer .. the chroot exists in a single folder that has no effect on the rest of the system
[00:22] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, whats a good output for upload to youtube?  and what about the output resolution?
[00:22] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, no idea
[00:22] <CokeNCode> thanks jappdev
[00:23] <kitche> arooni-mobile: look at the youtube upload rules and it will tell you
[00:23] <Pelo> high-bass, , check yoru user premissions in menuy > system > admin > users, make sure your user name has permission to use the sound device
[00:23] <nikrud> source guru? mage?
[00:24] <Pelo> nikrud, ??
[00:24] <compu73rg33k> alright I suppose I'll go for it
[00:24] <kitche> nikrud: what about it?
[00:24] <nikrud> Pelo: just rambling, don't mind me. Just commenting on something that's kinda nice
[00:25] <matyy> hej, are the mirrors really all the same? Or could there be some software missing on some cause of legal restrictions?
[00:25] <danand_> Matthe1 - you still there?
[00:25] <RedHeron> matyy, a "mirror" is an identical copy, and official packages are not restricted.
[00:26] <Pelo> matyy, should be the same , allow for some delays when new packages become availables
[00:26] <Matthe1> danand_: I am, my wife has fallen asleep giving me all the time I need!
[00:26] <matyy> ok, just wondering cause I'm in China^^
[00:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> Hello Guys..does anyone know a software to auto-tag mp3 musics? like winamp is doing..?
[00:27] <unop> Vive Le Tibet!! :)
[00:27] <danand_> Matthe1 - do you want the disk to be auto mounted each time you boot?
[00:27] <potato> i have a excutable file i want to run on ubuntu it is suposed to be for linux but i have no program for installing excutables
[00:27] <Mik1> thanks - the information given hasn't sorted my mouse issue - yet - but hopefully i have more information to move forward and tr to resolve this issue ...
[00:27] <Matthe1> danand_: I do
[00:27] <RedHeron> matyy, China's restrictions, from what I can tell from here in the USA, are based on using the software, not merely ownership.
[00:27] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, check out exfalso
[00:27] <Pelo> potato, what's the file extension ?
[00:27] <potato> 1 sec pelo
[00:27] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:thx mate.
[00:27] <Mik1> Thanks - next step will be a reboot and further investigations.
[00:28] <Krozy> potato: What is the file name, are you certain it is for linux, and does it have execute rights?
[00:28] <danand_> Matthe1 - where do you want it to be mounted to ? Usual place is under /media ie /media/datadrive ...
[00:28] <potato> one sec im checking all of that
[00:29] <Matthe1> danand_: that sounds sensible. Do I need to create a directory there in the filesystem or will it do that automatically?
[00:29] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:that work..but i want one to download the TAGs by internet..
[00:29] <danand_> Matthe1 - you will need to create that manually - sudo mkdir /media/datadisk
[00:30] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, maybe i was thinking about kid3 ..
[00:30] <phenom> Off hand, does any one know how to get wmf files to play under ubuntu?
[00:30] <unop> !info kid3
[00:30] <ubotu> kid3 (source: kid3): KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[00:30] <phenom> !info wmf
[00:30] <ubotu> wmf (source: wmf): Web Mail Folder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-6 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 192 kB
[00:31] <phenom> !wmf
[00:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:31] <Pelo> phenom,  don't you mean wmv ?
[00:31] <kitche> phenom: vlc and such but if it's DRM'd it be hard to play
[00:31] <Matthe1> danand_: done (it took me about 20 minutes early today to work out how to make directories on the command line, it's been so long since I used one I'd forgotten everything)
[00:31] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, ^^ .. although, it's not as versatile as winamp -- for single files, you need to manually select tags from a list that you import from gnudb or wherever
[00:31] <phenom> What the hell fire did I say? :P
[00:32] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:ill try that..winamp's been doing an excellent job by auto-tagging music by internet..downloading the tags...
[00:32] <phenom> wmv,, yes :/
[00:32] <phenom> !info wmv
[00:32] <ubotu> Package wmv does not exist in gutsy
[00:32] <Pelo> phenom, you said wmf ,   open synaptic  package manager in the admin menu ,  search for gstreamer  install all the gstreamer0.10 packages you see
[00:32] <phenom> Heck, I did.
[00:32] <daj0ker> phenom, totem plays wmv movies
[00:33] <phenom> It's not playing a particular one.
[00:33] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop:no problem..if i dont find nothing like wmp..ill have to use wine..i was only looking for something native..
[00:33] <Nasra> IndiGunFreak....are you around?
[00:33] <potato> Krozy:  its a usb host program for my psp
[00:33] <phenom> I'm going to check forerrors now
[00:33] <bazhang> phenom: for drm see ##windows
[00:33]  * Pelo is gonna start recommending totem-xine , instead of gstreamer ,  it would be less hypocritical
[00:33] <unop> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, winamp can also get things horribly wrong -- i made the mistake of believing it can get all tags and correctly -- now, i might have a bunch of files that have the wrong names  :|
[00:33] <danand_> Matthe1 - may be best not to automount this drive... if you want your user to be able to read and write to it you can just mount it yourself, same as you do a cd
[00:34] <Krozy> potato: What is the name?
[00:34] <potato> Krozy:  allows me to use files from my laptop on my psp through a wifi card
[00:34] <potato> usbhostfs
[00:34] <se2> ls
[00:34] <Pelo> wong windows se2
[00:35] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> unop: haha yeah! i guess some users contribute...cuz some audio files are really crazy...i dont know exacly how that works..but somethings are really messed up .. :P
[00:35] <Matthe1> danand_: OK, how do I mount it so I can edit it though, so far every attempt has resulted in a read only drive
[00:35] <potato> did you get the name Krozy?
[00:36] <potato> jw
[00:36] <daj0ker> YgorAbreu_ESP_BR, i know that amarok can do id3 tags fairly easily, a nice feature is trying to auto-tag from the filename
[00:36] <Krozy> potato: Yes. I saw that.
[00:36] <daj0ker> if that's what you're trying to do, i just saw the last few msgs
[00:36] <jack> anyone know how to remove all menu icons in kde, or kubuntu?
[00:37] <kitche> jack: edit each menu entry
[00:37] <jack> kitche: each one individually?
[00:37] <Pelo> kitche, won't that leave him with that default icon for each entry ?
[00:37] <potato> ok
[00:37] <danand_> Matthe1 - that's done in the fstab file :) - you _should_ just be able to rclick and select mount under Places -> Computer
[00:38] <dcramer[]> could anyone clarify what this post means: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3767003&postcount=3
[00:38] <YgorAbreu_ESP_BR> daj0ker: yeah but sometimes i get mp3files that comes with only 2 tags..title and artist..and i dont have a clue about its original name and that stuff..
[00:38] <danand_> Matthe1 - and then use the drive :_
[00:38] <kitche> Pelo: it show the default icon if he removed the icon anyways
[00:38] <dcramer[]> id like to do waht they did
[00:38] <Krozy> potato: It appears others have experienced the same problem with that software from google searches.  I'm personally not familiar with it as I dont have a PSP
[00:38] <unop> daj0ker, does amarok also retrieve tags from the internet?
[00:38] <Sl4y3r> can someone answer a question for me
[00:38] <Sl4y3r> ?
[00:38] <jack> kitche: isnt there a "Hide menu icons" check box somewhere?
[00:38] <potato> ok ill take a look on google to see what thay are saying
[00:39] <daj0ker> unop, yes
[00:39] <kitche> jack: no clue in kde sicne I haven't used kde or gnome in many years
[00:39] <potato> Krozy:  i think i found a walkthrough just for linux
[00:39] <Pelo> dcramer[], that guy is using debian repositories to get debian packages,  not necessarely a good idea
[00:39] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:39] <unop> dcramer[], in simple words, that's actually quite a crazy thing to do -- it's definitely not recommended, you can end up with a broken system
[00:39] <daj0ker> unop, amorak also can get the album cover, also, which is pretty nice, at least i think
[00:39] <dcramer[]> Pelo: i just want mod_wsgi from it :D
[00:39] <Krozy> potato: I'm looking at this site: http://www.psp-hacks.com/file/1064.  Is that where you got it?
[00:39] <dcramer[]> as im having issues with it and was hoping that'd fix it
[00:39] <phenom> bazhang, Yes it's drm crap, any way around it? :P
[00:39] <jack> kitche: should i quit wrestling with kde?
[00:39] <Pelo> DreamThief, just google for the srouce or a deb package
[00:40] <potato> Krozy:  yes exzatly
[00:40] <dcramer[]> oh wait nvm
[00:40] <Pelo> later folks
[00:40] <unop> daj0ker, i use albumart-qt for that -- it's pretty good, searches amazon, walmart, yahoo, etc
[00:40] <bazhang> jack best bet is to ask in #kubuntu ;]
[00:40] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:40] <dcramer[]> nvm i fixed mod_wsgi -.-
[00:40] <dcramer[]> thanks
[00:40] <Matthe1> danand_: Gotcha, still can't edit it when I mount it that way though and in the properties tab I am unable to change any of the permissions!
[00:40] <jack> bazhang: i am in both channels
[00:40] <daj0ker> unop, yea, sounds like it has a wider search range, i donno, amarok just hogs my system resources, no reason an mp3 player should use 50% of my cpu _ALL_ the time
[00:41] <Matthe1> danand_: It's going to take me a while to get used to the idea that even though I'm the only user I'm not given root access to everything by default!
[00:41] <unop> daj0ker, ohh yea, i prefer xmms anyday - simple and best
[00:41] <phenom> Ok, so best way to get around DRM?
[00:41] <phenom> :)
[00:41] <Krozy> potato: That archive (zip file) contains a file that may be a windows executable.  My system wants to run that through WINE.  Do you know a place that has the source for that file?
[00:42] <Sl4y3r> why would ubuntu run slower on a computer thats faster than mine?
[00:42] <daj0ker> unop, i agree
[00:42] <ZMALA> I have  my xp on a ntf drive 20gb (C:) and a 20gb partition foramtted as fat32 (L:) but when I try to install ubuntu only picks up my c: drive and not my L: it picks it as use thw whole hard drive or go to manual.
[00:42] <phenom> !drm
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <phenom> !info drm
[00:42] <ubotu> Package drm does not exist in gutsy
[00:42] <daj0ker> Sl4y3r, fresh install?
[00:42] <Stormx2> phenom: Depends on the DRM
[00:42] <potato> Krozy:  one sec ill find it for you
[00:42] <danand_> Matthe1 - i'm setting an option in the fstab so that if you mount the drive you should have full read write permissions to it, ie same as if you mounted a floppy or usb disk;.
[00:42] <rj__> hey
[00:42] <Sl4y3r> yes i installed it on 2 computers
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> mind and my dads
[00:43] <Matthe1> danand_: fab, thanks
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> my computer has 1.0 ghz processor and 384mb ram
[00:43] <rj__> >_> i was drac before, or drag, cant remember right now
[00:43] <_strogg_> Phenom are you trying to play back wmv
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> his has 2.3ghz processor and 768mb ram
[00:43] <rj__> I downgraded to 6.06>_>
[00:43] <Sl4y3r> and mine runs faster
[00:43] <Fryguy--> Sl4y3r: varying driver performance, different set of packages installed, misconfigured hardware are 3 reasons that jump out
[00:43] <phenom> _strogg_, yes
[00:43] <phenom> vlc wont even work.
[00:44] <daj0ker> Sl4y3r, exactly what Fryguy-- said, is what I was going to say, you could always just type "top" in a terminal and see what applications are running, if nay
[00:44] <ZMALA> I would like a auto install instead of manual which I could do but would have to setup all the partitions
[00:44] <Stormx2> phenom, I don't think you can get around drm'd wmv.
[00:44] <Stormx2> Why do you have it anyway?
[00:44] <_strogg_> lol you need the good the bad and the ugly codecs
[00:44] <Stormx2> That'll work if it's not DRM'd.
[00:44] <phenom> I've acquired the I Am Legend "Set" that has Part 2 in it.
[00:45] <Stormx2> !wmv | phenom
[00:45] <ubotu> phenom: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:45] <Krozy> potato: someone made a comment on this page (http://www.psp-hacks.com/index.php?s=smash) that infers that the source included in the archive for MACs could be compiled.  That may be worth a shot after review.
[00:45] <phenom> I'd like to watch it. Without doing a 007.
[00:45] <phenom> :/
[00:45] <phenom> Part 1 works fine grr.
[00:45] <potato> hmm\
[00:45] <ZMALA> I have  my xp on a ntf drive 20gb (C:) and a 20gb partition foramtted as fat32 (L:) but when I try to install ubuntu only picks up my c: drive and not my L: it picks it as use thw whole hard drive or go to manual.
[00:45] <_strogg_> are they both in wmv
[00:45] <php_pengui1> is there any package I can get for a fresh install which just "makes DVD work" ? I am getting kinda annoyed with having to remember 10 differnet packages
[00:45] <ZMALA> I would like a auto install instead of manual which I could do but would have to setup all the partitions
[00:45] <Stormx2> phenom, read that page on codecs if you want .wmv playback.
[00:45] <potato> Krozy:  you want me to find you the mac sourse?
[00:46] <phenom> I'd have to check part1, It started playing as soon as I put it in.
[00:46] <Stormx2> The package you'll need is w32codecs I think.
[00:46] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: so if guided partitioning doesn't work correctly for your setup, then do it manually, is isn't that hard
[00:46] <Krozy> potato: http://www.psp-hacks.com/file/1065
[00:46] <_strogg_> this page should help you both https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[00:46] <phenom> I can playback wmv's, but this one is DRM encrypted.
[00:46] <ZMALA> okay thanks fryguy
[00:46] <daj0ker> phenom, get another source :-P
[00:46] <Stormx2> How do you know it is DRM'd?
[00:46] <potato> ok]
[00:47] <phenom> Mplayer, says the file is "encumbered" in DRM encryption, hehe and grrr
[00:47] <Stormx2> Then you won't be able to play it back under ubuntu.
[00:47] <potato> Krozy:  ok ill try that ill let you know what happend
[00:47] <phenom> Phuck that
[00:47] <danand_> Matthe1 - Create a backup of your current fstab first :) - sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig then replace the current /etc/fstab with the one at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60362/ .... no implied warranties etc ... just incase i screwed it up :O
[00:47] <Stormx2> Sorry ^_^ should be careful when buying media that it isn't DRMd
[00:47] <mneptok> !language > phenom
[00:48] <danand_> Matthe1 - think it should be good though :)
[00:48] <phenom> funk that
[00:48] <Stormx2> Equally as bad.
[00:48] <Stormx2> Stop.
[00:48] <nikrud> doh
[00:48] <ZMALA> fryguy i have been looking at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning but still not sure the optimum sizes. Bit confused mate
[00:48] <mneptok> phenom: partdon?
[00:48] <mneptok> -t
[00:48] <RedHeron> DRM = teh sux0r
[00:48] <phenom> People die to remind someone not to be human around here. :/
[00:48] <pretender> can anyone tell me where to get a DVD Cover Template for Glabels
[00:49] <ZMALA> Yes I am a rooky
[00:49] <RedHeron> phenom: Like Arthur C. Clarke, you mean?
[00:49] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: just make a swap partition that's like 512mb, and then make a / partition that is whatever
[00:50] <_strogg_> Templates are in glabels no
[00:50] <phenom> mneptok, Was that a show of power?
[00:50] <Stormx2> ZMALA: Your regular install needs two partitions. A swap partition (which should be 2x the capacity of your RAM) and a main partition (called /)
[00:50] <phenom> Out of curiosity?
[00:50] <lilleman> Unrar e file.rar gives "no files to extract" even though I know there is files to extract. -r does not help. Have red most of the docs and cant find anything :/
[00:50] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: 2x ram is an old and outdated recommendation
[00:50] <Stormx2> phenom, basically it's a warning.
[00:50] <danand_> Matthe1 - you get that last?
[00:50] <agroker> RedHeron, that famous pedophile from Ceylon?
[00:50] <percy> hola
[00:50]  * phenom nods
[00:50] <Stormx2> Fryguy--, last time I heard it was about 2 years ago. Does it not hold true today?
[00:50] <RedHeron> agroker: pedophile???
[00:50] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: I highly doubt an 8gb swap partition is going to do me much good
[00:51] <Matthe1> danand_: brilliant, thanks so much for your help. I shall try this out and then get some sleep!
[00:51] <Stormx2> Point taken
[00:51] <RedHeron> agroker: ACC was *not* a pedo.
[00:51] <agroker> RedHeron, may very well be M$/SCO FUD, take with grain of salt ;-)
[00:51] <_strogg_> lol 8gb swap
[00:51] <Stormx2> Wouldn't make much sense to have a 64GB partition in my server either :)
[00:51] <phenom> Ok, so can Mr Canonical make a suggestion to help my problem, other than tell me not to react to it?
[00:51] <nikrud> Fryguy--: I usually suggest a little more than ram for laptops
[00:51] <phenom> I'm sorry, I won't "not curse" any more.
[00:51] <danand_> Matthe1 - just sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart. then try and mount the drive
[00:51] <RedHeron> agroker: Personally, I think Gates might be a pedo.
[00:51] <rockcityvi> Good night.  Can anyone tell me the general differences between GNOME and KDE?
[00:51] <nikrud> !offtopic | redbox_ agroker
[00:51] <ubotu> redbox_ agroker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:51] <tritium> Please, stay on topic.
[00:52] <_strogg_> KDE blowas ass
[00:52] <nikrud> sorry redbox_
[00:52] <_strogg_> KDE sucks
[00:52] <Fryguy--> nikrud: my only recommendation is something more than ram so that crashdumps can happen correctly, though that's mostly from freebsd and only if you care about debugging.  It's been a long time since ubuntu has swapped for me at all
[00:52] <ZMALA> okay stomx2   my swap file would be 4gb since I have 2gb ram. So whats the root
[00:52] <rockcityvi> Good deal
[00:52] <ZMALA> and whats / do
[00:52] <nikrud> Fryguy--: likewise, but I do hibernate now and then.
[00:52] <Stormx2> ZMALA: Hold on, we've had other suggestions since my 2x rule.
[00:52] <Stormx2> Fryguy--: How much swap would you give for 2GB of RAM?
[00:52] <nikrud> Fryguy--: when the battery is getting low and suspend might not last long enough
[00:52] <RedHeron> Without Arthur C. Clarke, there would have BEEN no Ubuntu!
[00:52] <Fryguy--> rockcityvi: they are both windowing environments that provide a cohesive interface.  Differences in them are in design and philosophy, use both and see which you like  both
[00:53] <_strogg_> KDE seems a bit bloated to me and I'm not to fond of how everything looks
[00:53] <mneptok> phenom: you're still here, yes?
[00:53] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: unless you have good reason, you should never need more thna 512 (hibernating is a pretty good reason)
[00:53] <rockcityvi> Thanks thats a good answer
[00:53] <Stormx2> ZMALA, as Fryguy-- said.
[00:53] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I routinely use 2gb of my 10gb swap.
[00:53] <_strogg_> I've tried using KDE because it's hyped up so much but I think it's crap
[00:54] <jappdev> have anyone tried to use runas?  it segfaults for me when ever i try to use it
[00:54]  * RedHeron also uses xfce
[00:54] <Stormx2> _strogg_, we get it!
[00:54] <phenom> mneptok, I don't appreciate your show of power. Why don't you mod Undernet if you want to start kicking people. They need trigger happy help.
[00:54] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: then you are one of those people who has a good reason to have a large swap file, as I mentioned in my statement, no need to make yourself known
[00:54] <Stormx2> _strogg_, stop telling us that KDE sucks. No one cares.
[00:54] <phenom> Tell "RetiredGod" I said hello.
[00:54] <_strogg_> some one was asking for opinions
[00:54] <Stormx2> If you have things you want improved talk to their dev team, no us.
[00:54] <nikrud> phenom: please.
[00:54] <Stormx2> not*
[00:54] <Fryguy--> _strogg_: i don't recall anyone asking for opinions on windowing environments
[00:54] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I think it should depend on the intended use, not a "general guideline" for everyone.
[00:54] <phenom> Ok.
[00:54] <phenom> I submit.
[00:54] <TaRDy> anybody know how to use "broken" filter?
[00:54] <ZMALA> Thanks guys.
[00:55] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: ubuntu's demographic dictates a general guideline
[00:55] <ZMALA> Will do it now
[00:55] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: And what demographic is that?
[00:55] <TaRDy> i have 1 broken package or pipeline in my system
[00:55] <Stormx2> 99% IRC addicts :)
[00:55] <_strogg_> rockcityvi was asking
[00:55] <mneptok> phenom: and i don't like an endless parade of anonymous teenagers complaing they can't swear. so there it is. if you'd like to make a larger issue of it, i would suggest re-thinking that idea.
[00:55] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: typical desktop linux user that is looking for a replacement for windows for day to day tasks, or as an exposure to linux to become accustomed to *nix
[00:55] <Stormx2> TaRDy: Usually I open up synaptic to fix them. dpkg can fix it too.
[00:55] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I'm one of THOSE.
[00:55] <tritium> Fryguy--: that's only partially true.
[00:56] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I've been using Linux for, oh, 6 months now.
[00:56] <tritium> Many of us are also old debian converts.
[00:56] <nikrud> hear hear for debian converts
[00:56] <Fryguy--> tritium: that it is, but we are having an argument because I mentioned a general guideline for establishing swap and people seem to have issue with it, so i'm trying to explain myself
[00:56]  * RedHeron started on Debian, FWIW.
[00:56] <tritium> Fryguy--: I'll scroll up to read your general guideline.
[00:56] <DrIP> hi all
[00:56] <nikrud> Fryguy--: its a good recommendation. I usually say 2x ram up to 2gb, works for most situations, real general ;)
[00:57] <DrIP> i'm having a problem with xrdc
[00:57] <Fryguy--> tritium: cliffnotes: most users don't ever need more than 512 ram, and if you do, you'll probably know about it and adjust accordingly
[00:57] <geektasticgirl> quick question: i have a 1 TB hard drive and gonna do a fresh install of Ubuntu (latest version). what is the best partition configuration for performance?   root partition, swap, /usr /home /var etc...
[00:57] <RedHeron> I take issue only because there is no solid reasoning behind the idea of an "overall guideline" as the guideline should be situationally dependent upon the intent behind the use.
[00:57] <Fryguy--> err excuse me
[00:57] <Fryguy--> 512 swap
[00:57] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: What do you use the hard drive for?
[00:57] <mneptok> geektasticgirl: desktop or laptop?
[00:57] <geektasticgirl> desktop
[00:57] <RedHeron> 512mb swap, right.
[00:57] <Stormx2> If you're not planning to use much of it you might as well RAID it or something. I couldn't see myself using 1TB.
[00:57] <Cann0n> 1T seems like over kill for a desktop lol.
[00:57] <tritium> Fryguy--: I'd agree.
[00:57]  * RedHeron routinely uses 2gb.
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> it cost me $249 lol
[00:58] <Stormx2> Why did you get it?
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> 7400 rpm segate
[00:58] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: I'm somewhat curious what you are doing that's using so much memory
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> fryes
[00:58]  * tritium rarely hibernates
[00:58] <_strogg_> lol I could use !TB up i bet
[00:58] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: graphic design. :-)
[00:58]  * Fryguy-- has over 3 terrabytes of storage :/
[00:58] <chimp> is there a command like way to tell a process not to use so much resources?
[00:58] <_strogg_> ^TB
[00:58] <Jaggs> Hi, I am new to the ubuntu stuff and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what program I could use to read xvid files...
[00:58] <geektasticgirl> should i make a 8192 swap since my mem  is 4096 mb?
[00:58] <Stormx2> Well I use 300GB but really I could free stuff up fine.
[00:58] <Fryguy--> chimp: nice
[00:58] <chimp> im compiling with an old laptop and its killing it
[00:58] <jappdev> Jaggs: vlc
[00:58] <agroker> geektasticgirl, just sent my fallen seagate barracuda back to dell
[00:58] <Stormx2> Jaggs, vlc?
[00:58] <Matthe1> danand_: that restart command caused a crash :-(
[00:58] <chimp> nice?
[00:58] <TaRDy> Stormx2, this may sound silly, but it won't let me apply in synaptic
[00:59] <Cann0n> im on 60GB and i have yet filled it up
[00:59] <TaRDy> Stormx2, actually wait let me sudo synaptic
[00:59] <Matthe1> danand_: the drive is showing up but I still can't write to it
[00:59] <tritium> geektasticgirl: are you running 64-bit?
[00:59] <RedHeron> chimp: the "nice" command, yes.
[00:59] <geektasticgirl> 32 bit, should i have gotten a 64bit processor?
[00:59] <mneptok> TaRDy: you should not be using sudo with Synaptic
[00:59] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: yes, you are outside of the typical user segment.  Graphics design is pretty much widely known to be an intensive cpu task, and you should know this and configure your computer accordingly, which you have.
[00:59] <chimp> i see hehe
[00:59] <chimp> cheers
[00:59] <Cann0n> I suggest splitting them up into 200GB clusters
[00:59] <Stormx2> TaRDy, you should always gksudo graphical apps.
[00:59] <geektasticgirl> i wanna play games, like guild wars too.. on my pc.. it works well now on linux
[00:59] <mneptok> TaRDy: use gksu.
[00:59] <tritium> geektasticgirl: no, but you may have bought more memory than you can use
[00:59] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: Thus the case for finding out what the user's intent is.
[00:59] <danand_> Matthe1 - oops - did you have to reboot?
[00:59] <TaRDy> thank you mneptok and Stormx2
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> i have 2 x 2.6ghz (real core duo), 4gb ram, 1tb hd, nvidia 7950gt
[01:00] <Jaggs> the vlc player gives me sound but no video
[01:00] <mneptok> TaRDy: VLC will not appear as a valid installation candidate until you enable the Multiverse repo and update your package cahce
[01:00] <Stormx2> See that seems like a sensible high-end system, except for the 1TB HDD.
[01:00] <mneptok> *cache
[01:00] <Fryguy--> RedHeron: there's not much need. If a user knows he is going to be doing graphic design, he knows he needs more memory.  If a user doesn't know what he needs, it's generally safe to assume that he will fall into the general category, and not require more than 512 swap, which is exactly what I said all along.  What exactly is your issue?
[01:00] <barslow> quick and easy stupid question
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 what is wrong with the hd?
[01:00] <geektasticgirl> 1tb
[01:00] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I didn't.
[01:00] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I had to learn from the ground up.
[01:00] <Stormx2> It just seems like overkill.
[01:01] <barslow> I removed the time from the top panel and i dont know how to get it back
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> storm, it is cheap tho
[01:01] <Stormx2> I can't see you using all that unless you download a lot of movies and never delete them.
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> storm, $249\
[01:01] <mneptok> Fryguy-- and RedHeron: could the OT convo move to -offtopic, please?
[01:01] <potato> Krozy: can you look around hear and see if you find the sourse http://ps2dev.org/psp/Projects/PSPSDK
[01:01] <Stormx2> Uhg. That's cheap?
[01:01] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: i have a dedicated file server in my house with multiple gigabytes
[01:01] <tritium> geektasticgirl: you could have saved yourself some $, and stuck with 2GB RAM
[01:01] <RedHeron> Fryguy--: I'm making a case for asking "what do you plan to do with your machine" instead of making a blanket statement.
[01:01] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, thats a deal there. i remember  when 100GBs were that much
[01:01] <Fryguy--> mneptok: how is configuring partitions and their sizes offtopic?
[01:01] <RedHeron> mneptok: How is that OT?
[01:01] <geektasticgirl> oh 4gb ram helps me
[01:01]  * Stormx2 could easily double his whole PC's stats with $249
[01:01] <TaRDy> I tried to use synaptic and recieved this error on apply "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig', which is also in package nvidia-xconfig"
[01:02] <barslow> comeon someone throw me a bone
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> btw 4gb of ram was only like $50 more
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> then 2gb
[01:02] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[01:02] <tritium> geektasticgirl: 32-bit systems can only address 2^32
[01:02] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, if you want to partition them up, i suggest 250GB or 200GB partitions
[01:02] <mneptok> Fryguy-- & RedHeron: you're not providing support. you're discussing technical merits. this is a support channel.
[01:02] <Krozy> potato: I found the source in that mac file from the link I gave you before, but I can't compile it as i dont have usb.h
[01:02] <barslow> just needa know how to get the time back on the top panel
[01:02] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Also what's the RPM on the disk drive?
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> 7400
[01:02] <tritium> geektasticgirl: i.e., you're not able to use the extra 2 GV
[01:02] <tritium> GB*
[01:02] <potato> Krozy: oh
[01:02] <barslow> stop kissin this slob girls ass and help me out here ppl
[01:02] <Fryguy--> mneptok: I provide more support in this channel than almost any one else.  Do you really have an issue with the amount of time I spend in here helping other people out?
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> ubuntu sees 3gb
[01:02] <barslow> jeezus
[01:02] <RedHeron> mneptok: I'm trying to talk about HOW to give support.
[01:02] <Dr_willis__> TaRDy,  i would try a 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try again.   If it still happens you could remove the nvidia-xconfig package,
[01:02] <geektasticgirl> cause i guess 32bit can only address up to 3gb
[01:02] <phenom> hehe
[01:02] <Krozy> potato: Its in http://www.psp-hacks.com/download.php?id=1065, just extract and drill down in the directories till you find the one with the source
[01:02] <tritium> barslow: that's not appropriate here
[01:02] <Stormx2> tritium: I thought 4GB was the limit on 32GB RAM?
[01:03] <agroker> barslow, did you try rightmouse button "add to panel"?
[01:03] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: the problem is addressing hardware memory, such as on video cards and such
[01:03] <barslow> well i have an easy question that im sure 99% of the ppl here could anwser
[01:03] <Jaggs> barslow: your just trying to get the time back in the corner!?
[01:03] <barslow> yea there's no option for time
[01:03] <Kira> How do Postfix and the Perl SMTP server compare with each other?
[01:03] <Dr_willis__> barslow,   did you try the obvious way like agroker  said?
[01:03] <potato> Krozy:  then just comile (install) useing the sourse
[01:03] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: which, because of x86 architecture, gets lumped into the 4gb limit
[01:03] <ethan961> Stormx2, that is FAT32 filesystem.
[01:03] <Stormx2> Wait, I failed.
[01:03] <ethan961> as well
[01:03] <Stormx2> I meant
[01:03] <Stormx2> 32bit processer
[01:03] <potato> Krozy: like i mean past into the termanal?
[01:03] <barslow> no time option in add to panel
[01:03] <Stormx2> Really tired :/
[01:03] <phenom> RedHeron, Fryguy--,, The audacity..
[01:03] <geektasticgirl> i can't figure out how to make logical partitions in the unbuntu setup
[01:03] <phenom> ;)
[01:03] <geektasticgirl> i'll try again
[01:03] <chimp> tried using that nice command, but that is seemingly only with programs you want to strat, im already compiling and want to lower its priority, how do i do this?
[01:03] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  i find it safer to just use all primaries if i can.
[01:04] <Fryguy--> chimp: use nice
[01:04] <Fryguy--> chimp: read manpage, you can nice existing processes
[01:04] <tritium> Fryguy--: so what's the upper addressable limit for memory on a 32-bit system?
[01:04] <ZMALA> okay so im creating the 512mb swap file and  (bearing in mind this will be my 2nd os after Windows Boooooo!!!) and its asking me if it should be primary or logical and should the location be at beginning or end
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> btw i use 0mb of my swap
[01:04] <chimp> i see, man page doesnt list this
[01:04] <Fryguy--> tritium: 4gb, short of doing fancier things like PAE
[01:04] <chimp> ill try cheers
[01:04] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: so does the vast majority of this channel
[01:04] <Dr_willis__> ZMALA,  location dosent matter. I tend to put them at the end.  when in doubt use primaries if you can.
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> with 3gb of ram in system lol
[01:04] <geektasticgirl> (4gb but os sees 3gb)
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> my swap is gonna be like 8192mb
[01:05] <ZMALA> great thanks again dudes
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> twice my memory
[01:05] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, i'd just partition them into quarters or 5th's, then selecting the first one for the installation of ubuntu
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> 8gb swap sounds good?
[01:05] <Krozy> potato: do you know how to compile the source?
[01:05] <Dr_willis__> I always put a 512mb swap partition on every HD i have..  The various Live cd's often see it and use it if needed. :)
[01:05] <TaRDy> Dr_willis__, on sudo apt-get upgrade it gave the following: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10_i386.deb
[01:05] <potato> Krozy:  no sorry
[01:05] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, 8gb sounds good
[01:05] <tritium> Fryguy--: aye, 2^32 > 4e9.  I agree with your statement.
[01:05] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  I only set up 1 gb normally. Unless you plan on doiing somthing major.
[01:05] <ne0> hello  I got question does ubuntu now support wacom for the hp tx2000?
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> why waste a partiton for only 1 gb
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> of 1000gb
[01:05] <geektasticgirl> heh
[01:06] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> 8gb of 1000gb is like nothing right?
[01:06] <Cann0n> the linux rule of thumb is double your ram for the swap space
[01:06] <alwrwr2003> hi
[01:06] <Krozy> potato: Do you have the files extracted? (save the download to your desktop, right click it and choose extract here)
[01:06] <potato> yes
[01:06] <Malik_> iam been tying for an 30 misn and i can't get ubuntu wirless to work???
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> btw i record HD movies via TV antenna, with HD tuner card.. each movie can take like 25gb
[01:06] <geektasticgirl> so this 1tb hd helps
[01:06] <Malik_> can some1 help me otu or be my guide???
[01:06] <Cann0n> Malik_, i'm back
[01:06] <Jaggs> barslow: have you tried finding the calendar and seein if it has an add option?
[01:06] <potato> Krozy:  extracted and i see 2 folders one has nothing in it tho]
[01:06] <Malik_> yes
[01:06] <brazil_nut> does anybody install ubuntu on mac-book
[01:06] <Fryguy--> Malik_: you ask questions, we answer them
[01:06] <brazil_nut> ?
[01:06] <Cann0n> Malik_, join #Cann0n
[01:07] <Krozy> potato: ok, open up a terminal, and navigate into the directory that has the source files.
[01:07] <alwrwr2003> how I run synaptic on administrator
[01:07] <Cann0n> I told you i'd help you with that
[01:07] <potato> ok
[01:07] <brazil_nut> yes, Malik_  go ahead and ask questions ?
[01:07] <ZMALA> okay thats the swap file created now for tthe main partition (called /)  ??? i  have many options for use as example ext3 ext2 and others
[01:07] <ne0> ??
[01:07] <pretender> Does anyone know how to create a DVD Cover Template in GLABELS
[01:07] <Fryguy--> alwrwr2003: become root using su, or use sudo to execute a single command with elevated permissions
[01:07] <ZMALA> which one is it
[01:07] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Might have been better to get multiple disks, but oh well.
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: it's called swap
[01:07] <Krozy> potato: should be in /usbhostfs_MAC/src/
[01:07] <potato> Krozy:  by just pasting the location from the file borwser adress bar into the termal
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: oh nevermind i misread
[01:07] <potato> ok]
[01:07] <ZMALA> I have already done the swap
[01:07] <potato> i got ya
[01:07] <Fryguy--> ZMALA: if you dont' know what to pick, choose ext3
[01:07] <geektasticgirl> thinking 10gb root, 8gb swap, 100gb usr and the reset (>800gb) for home
[01:07] <comicinker> I have a script that requires "your java home location (eg /usr/java)". what is it in ubuntu? when I set it to /usr/bin/java, I receive an error
[01:08] <ZMALA> cool
[01:08] <tritium> alwrwr2003: or selecting it from the menu (it'll ask for your password)
[01:08] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:08] <Jaggs> Ok, Im going to ask a Question and re phrase it... VLC will not play my xvid applications because I cant extract the files, is there a patch or something fo rme to do that?
[01:08] <chimp> sorry but the nice man page shows no syntax for existing proceses, i cant work out how to do it?
[01:08] <Krozy> potato: then you should be able to kick off a compile by entering "make" at the command line (theres a Makefile that has the parameters)
[01:08] <Fryguy--> comicinker: type 'whereis java'
[01:08] <TaRDy> comicinker, try "which java"
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> oh var shouldnt' be on root drive eitehr bleh
[01:08] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: I tend to lump / and /usr together on ubuntu, there's no real reason to seperate them
[01:08] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> but those files are usually small in var right?
[01:08] <tritium> geektasticgirl: many of these issues/questions are personal preference
[01:08] <geektasticgirl> the logs dont' grow too big?
[01:08]  * RedHeron idles for "back to work". :-(
[01:08] <tritium> There is no right or wrong way that is universally agreed upon.
[01:08] <kip> in which path can I make "inetd start" ??
[01:08] <tritium> geektasticgirl: logrotate
[01:08] <kip> where is the filme inetd?
[01:09] <mattgyver83> Hi room, how can i find out the path to my dvdrw?
[01:09] <ZMALA> oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:09] <brazil_nut> comicinker, you can set the java path in your .bashrc file first type the "whereis  java", it will tell you where your java is installed on the system
[01:09] <geektasticgirl> bleh i dont' kwno what to do
[01:09] <Stormx2> mattgyver83: It will be under /media somewhere.
[01:09] <mattgyver83> thanks storm
[01:09] <chimp> can anyone explain to me please, how to use nice on specific aleady running processes?
[01:09] <geektasticgirl> 100gb root  8gb swap and the rest on home?
[01:09] <comicinker> whereis is cool. which one is the correct path? java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[01:10] <tritium> comicinker: /usr/bin/java
[01:10] <Stormx2> mattgyver83, well there's two paths really. There's the device file (something you (the human) can't do much with) under /dev, and the drive's mountpoint (where you can see files on the disk, or whatever) under /media
[01:10] <brazil_nut> chimp, type man nice and it will give you some examples as well
[01:10] <Fryguy--> chimp: bother to google?
[01:10] <chimp> i checked man pages, it doesnt show me anything
[01:10] <potato> Krozy: how to i change to the location i need just /home/j/Desktop/usbhostfs_MAC/src and hit enter?
[01:10] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:10] <chimp> i cant google, computer is at near standstill
[01:10] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, why 100GB / ?
[01:10] <Fryguy--> chimp: renice
[01:10] <mattgyver83> Stormx2; im just trying to burn a dvd and the path /dev/dvdrw was not found
[01:11] <DrIP> hi all
[01:11] <DrIP> i'm getting the error:    main: unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111)      in a 'x11 virtual terminal' with an ok button that just closes the session... xrdp again...
[01:11] <chimp> ahh i see, thanks
[01:11] <mattgyver83> Stormx2; i guess it would be /dev/scd1
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> storm, for /usr (programs) /var ?
[01:11] <alwrwr2003> it dosn't ask me for my password
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> if i installed every package for linux available, how much space would it take?
[01:11] <Stormx2> mattgyver83: You can type "mount" in a terminal to see where things are mounted.
[01:11] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: a lot
[01:11] <Stormx2> Might help.
[01:11] <geektasticgirl> mroe then 100gb?
[01:12] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: probably
[01:12] <mattgyver83> Stormx2, thanks for the tip
[01:12] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, there are ~20,000 packages in the repository. How many are you expecting to install?
[01:12] <ZMALA> ext 3 it is for main location begining or end oh and primary for ext3 as you said right
[01:12] <chronic1> anyone here have problems with a Dell laptop and "switch user"
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 id unno lol
[01:12] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, depends on if you want EVERY package version
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> usually jsut the tip
[01:12] <tritium> geektasticgirl: you can't even install all of them, due to package conflicts.
[01:12] <geektasticgirl> i know
[01:13] <bluefox83> !convert
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <bluefox83> ok, anyone know how to add screenlets?
[01:13] <Stormx2> I have 1,500 installed and I've had this install of ubuntu since dapper (just under 2 years). i'm using 10GB
[01:13] <vocx> geektasticgirl, most people would give more room to the /home partition than worry about the main / partition
[01:13] <Krozy> potato: the commands for changing directory are similar to dos/windows command prompt... when you bring up a terminal, you'll be in your home directory, so first change to desktop (cd Desktop<enter>), and then into each subdirectory
[01:13] <geektasticgirl> cool
[01:13] <Stormx2> bluefox83: Please just /msg ubotu next time
[01:13] <alwrwr2003> where i found all the order in the shell & terminal
[01:13] <geektasticgirl> stormx , how do you have yoru system partitioned?
[01:13] <agroker> chronic1, I'm on inspiron 6400, may try if you tell me what exactly to do
[01:14] <Stormx2> Uhg
[01:14] <Stormx2> I'll check, hold on.
[01:14] <Stormx2> I can't remember exactly.
[01:14] <comicinker> that script is crap. thanks for the path help, it worked.
[01:14] <potato> Krozy:  whats the "cd" mean?
[01:14] <geektasticgirl> was thinkign by having root on separate partition it would boot faster
[01:14] <chronic1> agroker: basically if I log out, no problem...but if i use "switch user" or close the lid...the computer never comes back on without a hard shutoff and startup
[01:14] <Krozy> potato: cd means Change Directory
[01:14] <spork969> i reorganized 217 images in the file browser by modification date, but when i view a slideshow, they go by name. is there a quick and easy way for me to rename all of them so they are formatted like IMG_001.jpg to IMG_217.jpg by order of date of modification?
[01:14] <potato> thougt so
[01:15] <Krozy> potato: This may be a helpful guide for navigating the directory structure: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/direct.html
[01:15] <agroker> chronic1, I too had problems with sleeping on closing the lid, switched it to "shutdown"
[01:15] <Stormx2> 18.6GB Windows, 10GB / (sorry I was mistaken earlier, only 5GB full, not 10GB), 7.1GB /home, 1.5GB swap, 100GB "Stuff" (might as well be /home on reflection, but I was naive) and 200GB "Music"
[01:16] <sleepy554> 1.5gb swap? lol
[01:16] <Stormx2> I'd change a lot of the partitioning tbh. I set it up when I was like 12 or 13 though so it's not great.
[01:16] <ne0> hello every1
[01:16] <vulcar> Is there a wlan essid scanner out there for ubuntu?
[01:16] <agroker> chronic1, but switch user works on Heron
[01:17] <Fryguy--> vulcar: kismet will probably do what you want
[01:17] <chronic1> agroker: is that the beta release?
[01:17] <agroker> vulcar, there were a few, try airsnort
[01:17] <Stormx2> vulcar: ng-crack?
[01:17] <vocx> spork969, probably need to try something with "rename" and "find", or use some other scripting language like python, or tcl.
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> i'd like to ptu libraries, exectubles etc, things that don't change often in separate partition.. gues i need to use symbolic links
[01:17] <agroker> chronic1, I think so
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> e.g. for /usr
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> and /lib
[01:17] <geektasticgirl> etc
[01:17] <spork969> thanks vocx, im trying that now
[01:18] <geektasticgirl> /var and /home i'd like on the same partition
[01:18] <Stormx2> Eek
[01:18] <Stormx2> Bad idea?
[01:18] <chronic1> I can survive until the 24th of April...i think.
[01:18] <vulcar> out of curiosity is there a reason why my network card isn't being registered as an 802.11N but rather as an 802.11G
[01:18] <Stormx2> I don't know xD
[01:18] <geektasticgirl> well thanks for the help
[01:18] <vocx> geektasticgirl, I wouldn't recommend it, if this is your first linux system. Just create the basic partitions. Once you see how your system performs, you'll have an idea of what partitions if any to create.
[01:19] <geektasticgirl> well i've installed linux before a few times, been like 10 yrs tho
[01:19] <geektasticgirl> i think i did some linking
[01:19] <kitche> vulcar: probably because N isn't officially out yet
[01:19] <spork969> vulcar, check your drivers
[01:19] <unop_> spork969, what are you trying to do?
[01:20] <vulcar> spork969, I have the right driver, it registers N on windows but not on ubuntu
[01:20] <geektasticgirl> i think i made a partition and mounted it to some other dir off root then symbo linked /usr /lib etc to subdirs of that partition, if orget
[01:20] <agroker> geektasticgirl, I'd say since your HD is single physically, it does not matter too much how you partition it
[01:20] <geektasticgirl> well i want fast boot times
[01:21] <tarkus> hey guys, a few buddies and i thought of this project. let me know if you think this would be successfull. would you join if it was active and well implemented/designed? http://dpaste.com/40492/
[01:21] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Dedication partitions to things can make it slower, because your disk reads a lot faster on the inside.
[01:21] <Stormx2> Unneccesarily putting stuff on the outside just slows things down
[01:21] <vocx> geektasticgirl, well if you installed linux 10 years ago, you are probably more experienced than most of us. However, the booting time depends on the kernel. You could compile your own custom kernel with only the modules you need for your hardware.
[01:21] <unop_> geektasticgirl, if you want fast boot times, then the lesser the number of partitions, the better -- this is because time is lost verifying the state of the partition before mounting it
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> shouldn't i put /home on a separate partiton tho?
[01:22] <spork969> unop, i have 217 pictures of my trip to new york city, and i am trying to make a slideshow to show my friends all the pictures without uploading them all to photobucket or something because it would take forever. anyway, my camera renames pics starting at IMG_001.JPG every time you plug the card into my computer. i am trying to rename the files so they appear as alphabetical by the time i...
[01:22] <Stormx2> Yeah you should
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> or make 1tb / ? lol
[01:22] <spork969> ...put them on my computer, so the slideshow will go by date, not name.
[01:22] <Stormx2> thats a point where the advantages outweight the disadvantages.
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> ok
[01:22] <spork969> vulcar, i believe windows and ubuntu have different drivers. i am not 100% on this though
[01:22] <geektasticgirl> 50gb root?
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> 50gb of 1tb
[01:23] <Malik_> can some1 help me otu in settign up wirless ..i jus can't do it
[01:23] <Stormx2> You're not optimising a server here. This is a desktop machine with plenty of capacity that you'll never use. Putting things like /var on a different partition is pointless.
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> 50gb overkill for root?
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> what about tmp files and var etc
[01:23] <Stormx2> Not overkill but seems excessive unless you're going to be compiling endless kernels.
[01:23] <geektasticgirl> seems like 10gb is kinda small if i have 1tb
[01:23] <danand_> geektasticgirl - 50gb is _plenty_ - 20gb should be enough
[01:23] <Stormx2> 10GB is small.
[01:24] <Stormx2> 25GB would be fine though.
[01:24] <unop_> spork969, if you have directories of pictures, say for e.g. a directory called new_york_city -- you can rename them using rename - rename 's/IMG/nyc/' /path/to/new_york_city*
[01:24] <spork969> geektasticgirl, go for 20-25GB
[01:24] <unop_> spork969,  rename 's/IMG/nyc/' /path/to/new_york_city/*
[01:24]  * agroker recalls the Holy Hand Grenade manual...
[01:24] <xb3rt> Using ubuntu if i run an ethernet cable from my laptop to a desktop pc can is their a configuration tool on ubuntu somehwere to let me use the desktop pcs resources on my laptap along with what my laptops got
[01:24] <danand_> any more bidders .... going at 20-25gb then... :)
[01:24] <xb3rt> For hardware only
[01:24] <spork969> unop, i'm using pyrenamer, it has a renaming tool based on EXIF data
[01:24] <Stormx2> xb3rt: define resources.
[01:24] <vulcar> spork969, through ndiswrapper it should register but someone informed me that wireless n may not be registering linux since its not offical, thanks for the help though
[01:24] <vocx> geektasticgirl, 1 TB space, that is actually a lot. I would say do whatever you want, since it's a lot of space. 50 or 100 GB for / seems sane in that case.
[01:24] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: it needs to be a crossover cable, and yes, you can just assign IPs to both machines and address them just like you would on a normal network, and use whatever applicable tool you need (probably ssh/scp)
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> what happens when game developers start making 3d games for linxu lol.. one game takes up 8gb (e.g. wow)
[01:25] <spork969> vulcar, sorry i couldnt solve your problem
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> root gonna fill up fast hehe
[01:25] <Malik_> can some1 help me install wirless?
[01:25] <Stroganoff> geektasticgirl, 50GB is more than enough for /
[01:25] <Stormx2> vocx: No, it isn't. Because the root file system can only grow so large without doing something extreme. I could make use of 1TB of media if I tried.
[01:25] <geektasticgirl> guess i could do custom install to /home partiton
[01:25] <unop_> spork969, i suppose you can do that if the EXIF data has something meaningful .. :)
[01:25] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: so my laptop would then have the power of the laptop and the desktop, right
[01:26] <spork969> unop, the EXIF data includes the date and time i took the image
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> ok gonna go with 30gb root, sound good?
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> since i have 1tb
[01:26] <Stroganoff> yep
[01:26] <Stormx2> 30GB is good.
[01:26] <knight17> Hi All!
[01:26] <knight17> May I know how can I get to know how much bandwidth is being conumed, is there any terminal commands for it
[01:26] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: ? what do you mean
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> so 30gb root, 8192mb swap, and the rest /home
[01:26] <unop_> spork969, cool -- so, you're sorted then? :)
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> in that orde?
[01:26] <geektasticgirl> root/swap then home right?
[01:26] <ey-nonymous> Having a small problem, when I format disks, under permissions just "Unknown" is shown under all three listboxes....
[01:27] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, unless you have an older mobo, consider putting your swap drive first for greater speed.
[01:27] <spork969> geektastic, i didnt know you had 1TB, 50GB is excessive, but you should be fine
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> i guess ishould have ms vista on last partition, not first on hd
[01:27] <unop_> knight17, do you mean statistics like how much data was sent or recieved?
[01:27] <spork969> unop, yeah, thanks for the help
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> cause ubuntu will run faster i guess
[01:27] <knight17> Yes unop_
[01:27] <vocx> !enter | geektasticgirl
[01:27] <ubotu> geektasticgirl: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:27] <ne0> hey so how can i get a usb wacom to work?
[01:27] <ne0> with ubuntu
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> sorry about that ubotu
[01:27] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: lets say the desktop pc has 1gig ram and my laptop has 1gig, could my laptop potentially combine that and work as if it had 2gigs
[01:27] <Stormx2> Why are you optimising your computer so much for ubuntu when you're running vista? xD
[01:27] <geektasticgirl> well
[01:27] <vocx> !sorry | geektasticgirl
[01:27] <ubotu> geektasticgirl: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[01:28] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: no
[01:28] <unop_> knight17, you can use ifconfig for that -- it tells you how many bytes were sent/recieved for an interface
[01:28] <yowshi> unop_, is there aniother way other then backing everything to another hdd i could back up my files. i dont have enough backup space for everything
[01:28] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: that's not how networking really works
[01:28] <geektasticgirl> i dont' think i am gonan run vista, but want to save room forit
[01:28] <geektasticgirl> like 100gb
[01:28] <ne0> ??
[01:28] <spork969> geektasticgirl, 100GB is plenty for vista
[01:28] <Stormx2> Right now there isn't really a point in running Vista. Tbh I don't know why I'm running XP, I liked 2000 more.
[01:28] <unop_> yowshi, remind me again what it is you want to do with the harddrive ?? repartition it?
[01:28] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: I could basically just use the storage space on it or applications
[01:29] <ne0> 100gb is not a lot if u have vista and watch lot of movies
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> shoudl i put vista at the end?  e.g.  30gb /, 8gb swap, 800gb /home, 100gb vista?
[01:29] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: yes
[01:29] <ne0> vista is a hog
[01:29] <spork969> geektasticgirl, my sisters running vista, and she has only used like 5GB. she's not much of a geek though so idk.
[01:29] <yowshi> yeah i know i probably need to move everyting because
[01:29] <unop_> geektasticgirl, 8GB swap is overkill :)
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> well i use lots of mmorpg games, they take up GIGS lol
[01:29] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: for a home user, what is the gain in that?
[01:29] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, i'd avoid vista completely.
[01:29] <yowshi> unop_, resizing the /home p[artition to incluse my /usr partition which are on two seperate harddrives would probably need both to be formatted and who knows whatelse
[01:29] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: nothing
[01:29] <vocx> Stormx2, I never used 2000, I jumped from ME to XP. The bestest Windowze is XP.
[01:29] <geektasticgirl> i have vista installed now on first partition, this ubuntu is on partition2 of hte hd
[01:30] <yowshi> unop_, but i figured i would ask in case it isnt needed for both to be formatted
[01:30] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, what do you do for a living that allows you to buy a high-end PC _and_ have time to play MMORPGs?
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> but i wanna redo it.. i think i want vista at the end of the hd
[01:30] <spork969> XP > VIsta > 2000 > Me
[01:30] <ne0> lol
[01:30] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, windows xp is more compatible with games than vista. i couldn't get Diablo 2 to work right in VIsta
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> well vista has the cool aero :P
[01:30] <spork969> im pretty sure 3.1 was better than Me
[01:30] <Stormx2> XP (just) > 2000 > Vista > ME
[01:30] <Stormx2> I'll admit Vista is better than ME :)
[01:30] <vocx> We are all off topic, please ban us all!
[01:30] <yowshi> 100Gb isnt high ende
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> but ubuntu destroyes aero and mac quartz compositoer
[01:30] <yowshi> 3 250 gigs is
[01:30] <geektasticgirl> the compiz
[01:31] <Dr_willis__> we all know it was downhill all the way from MSBOB.exe
[01:31] <Dr_willis__> :)
[01:31] <spork969> vocx, we are talking about computers and operating systems, close enough
[01:31] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, you could just use VMWare to make virtual machines, so you can avoid partitioning all together. but thats just me. :)
[01:31] <geektasticgirl> vista runs pretty well on 4gb of ram btw iwth fast 3d video card :)
[01:31] <Stormx2> Dr_willis__, :)
[01:31] <czerkez> Poland welcome
[01:31] <geektasticgirl> i can use VMware on ubuntu to run Vista?
[01:31] <Stormx2> czerkez, er, hi?
[01:31] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: do you ever make applications or program?
[01:31] <czerkez> hi stormx2 how do you do?
[01:31] <unop_> yowshi, how are the partitions laid out on the 2HDDs now?
[01:32] <geektasticgirl> btw i use wine to run guild wars.. and it runs fast and flawless lol
[01:32] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  you may be better off running XP in vmware , then using xp.
[01:32] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, yes and you can use VMWare to run linux on windows. :)
[01:32] <Stormx2> czerkez, fine, yourself? can I help you?
[01:32] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: yes, i am a software engineer
[01:32] <yowshi> i have / swap /boot and /usr on sda and /home on sdb
[01:32] <Breakage> hi im having some trouble with saving to x config file in nvidia-settings with version 169.12, when i've set up the displays and click save to x configuration file nvidia-settings just quits. theres no pop-up about the changes and it doesn't save, anyone know what's wrong? it will save if i'm not using twinview with just one monitor.
[01:32] <geektasticgirl> oh i bet ubuntu and x is slow under vmware under windows?
[01:32] <agroker> czerkez, what do you sell?
[01:32] <unop_> yowshi, and you want to put /home on sda ?
[01:32] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, Wine has gone a long way.  VMWare would be the way to go. I can boot windows XP like an applications using VMWare
[01:33] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: for someone like myself, i know some visual basic but its been awhile.  What language would you recommend diving into
[01:33] <yowshi> least i think i have a /boot partition no i want to combine /usr and /home. i originally made them seperate for simpliciies sake unop_
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> do the xp apps run fast under vmware ?
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> on ubuntu
[01:33] <vocx> Cann0n, VMWare for games?
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> i have 2 x 2.6ghz sysstem 4gb of ram
[01:33] <Stormx2> xb3rt: Depends what you want to do.
[01:33] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: depends on what you want to do, c or c++ is fine, python, whatever
[01:33] <geektasticgirl> i dobut world of warcraft runs fast under vmware under ubuntu lol
[01:33] <agroker> geektasticgirl, you are very cool
[01:33] <Stormx2> Jinx :)
[01:33] <yowshi> unop_, because i didnt unserdtand LVM and i wanted to be up and running after spending days just figuring out how to install with a raid
[01:33] <vocx> xb3rt, Fryguy-- if you want to discuss programming join #ubuntu-programming
[01:33] <potato> can any one help me with getting this usb wireless adaptor working?
[01:34] <Cann0n> vocx, no, you can boot windows like an application, then install games on the virtual machine, THEN play games.
[01:34] <xb3rt> I kind of want to make my own messenger for private use
[01:34] <xb3rt> just for the hell of it
[01:34] <unop_> yowshi, well .. why is this not feasible -- leave /home on sdb -- and just repartition sda to how you like
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> agroker lol.. i am a clueless lol.  so many options
[01:34] <Fryguy--> i'm getting really sick and tired of contributing multiple hours a day of my time in here, and then get scolded by random people
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> oh i need to run quicken 2008 so i gues si shoudl do that under vmware under linux
[01:34] <geektasticgirl> shoudl run plenty fast enough for a that
[01:34] <Cann0n> Fryguy--, welcome to IRC
[01:34] <yowshi> unop_, i would leave home on sdb but i want home to have almost all of /usr's space /usr is like 200+ gigs
[01:35] <agroker> geektasticgirl, still, not everybody here has access to 4gb of RAM under 32-bit Vista
[01:35] <vocx> Cann0n, I mean, are Virtual Machines now powerful enough to run games? Because you need access directly to 3D and sruff.
[01:35] <Stormx2> Fryguy--, scolded by who? o.O
[01:35] <Dr_willis__> vmware and games  for windows = not a good combo.
[01:35] <Dr_willis__> vocx,  its due to how thjey have to handle the video hardware/emulation.
[01:35] <geektasticgirl> vmware for xp for quicken 2008 under ubuntu = good idea?
[01:35] <Stormx2> Best run 3D games natively, no matter what your system stats.
[01:36] <unop_> yowshi, ok, why not like this then? leave sdb intact for now -- repartition sda like this -- /boot / swap /tmp /usr /home -- install linux, and then copy the contents of sdb into /home ??
[01:36] <Dr_willis__> vocx,  ive heard vmware is working on it. but  I will be suprised if they make it useable any time soon.
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> stormx2, guild wars runs fine under wine.. it doesnt' od a lot of windows calls
[01:36] <vocx> Dr_willis__, yes that's what I mean.
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 , it runs dang fast actually
[01:36] <yowshi> ummmm i could do that unop_ but that leaves all of sdb unused
[01:36] <geektasticgirl> it loads up faster on ubuntu then my vista machine
[01:36] <Dr_willis__> The world does not revolve around pc 'games' :)
[01:36] <yowshi> unop_, as in not mounted under ubuntu unused
[01:37] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl, yeah but even so it acts as a bottleneck, and sooner or later you'll have a game that'll run slower under wine than windows.
[01:37] <daj0ker> Dr_willis, unless life is a game ... then what?!? O.o
[01:37] <Stormx2> s/wine/vmware
[01:37] <m1r> but most computers do Dr_willis__
[01:37] <vocx> Fryguy--, that was a friendly comment in case you wanted to hang out and help others in #ubuntu-programming to take some load off this main channel.
[01:37]  * agroker thinks that perhaps dedicated game console would be more suitable for games...
[01:37] <geektasticgirl> stormx2, yeah like wow, which is written better for directx, but supposrt opengl.. but slower unde that.. had to set it for opengl.. runs slow udner wine
[01:37] <Fryguy--> vocx: you call 1-2 moderately offtopic statements a "load"
[01:37] <Cann0n> vocx, I still have my laptop's driver and application dvd. so far, everything i have done with vmware has been successful. but then again, i dont play many games. only computer game i play is D2 and thats one every 6 months. but, i can watch DVD's on a virtual windows machine
[01:37] <unop_> yowshi, lol -- errm, so what do you want placed on sdb then??  if i were you, i'd make a new mount point under sda called /home/data (or /media/data) and have sdb mounted under that -- and place movies, music, etc, etc in it
[01:38] <geektasticgirl> but there is this cadega software you can buy that is suppose to make games run at native speed on linux *windows games that is)
[01:38] <Fryguy--> vocx: I don't develop for ubuntu (I barely even use ubuntu) so I have no reason to hang out in #ubuntu-programming since I don't contribute to that project
[01:38] <yowshi> unop_, so your saying if you were me you would leave sdb alone and just mount it manually?
[01:38] <unop_> yowshi, that way you seperate your /home from most of your data and still make use of sdb
[01:38] <Cann0n> Cedega ^
[01:38] <runemast1> This is getting unusable
[01:38] <Dr_willis__> daj0ker,  i want my $$ back.
[01:38] <daj0ker> lol
[01:39] <yowshi> unop_, i could do that and i could make a nice panel entry for that mounting :)
[01:39] <geektasticgirl> CannOn, is cedega set of direct x libraries or something?
[01:39] <vocx> Fryguy--, It's general programing, not specific to ubuntu. Besides, since it's still a small channel we talk nonsense and vent some times. It's fun.
[01:39] <unop_> yowshi, well, you dont have to mount it manually all the time, you can place an entry in /etc/fstab so that sdb is mounted all the time
[01:39] <yowshi> so then i just need to back up my amovies directory
[01:39] <ka2> geektasticgirl: cedega is like wine
[01:39] <grumpy_gramps> can someone help with a printer setup problem on a new 7.10 install?
[01:39] <yowshi> unop_, i dont understand fstab at all i dont touch fstab because i dont understand it. but i do understand if i fuck up fstab my comp becomes a paper weight
[01:39] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, Cedega is a branch of wine i believe. Overall, you can port support forums on mmorpgs under linux.
[01:40] <geektasticgirl> so i dont' need cedega? i can tweak my wine to make a pc game run as well as with cedega?
[01:40] <Fryguy--> vocx: there is #programming for that.  I don't really want to hang out in a programming related channel that is also related to ubuntu.  please join #offtopic for further discussion about the matter
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> yowshi,  fstab is rather straight forwared.. and when in doubt BACKUP THE ORIGINAL
[01:40] <unop_> yowshi, there's really little need for the "panel entry" to mount sdb if you have an fstab entry --
[01:40] <ka2> geektasticgirl: cedega runs some things that wine doesnt
[01:40] <Malik_> do i need internet to install beryl???
[01:40] <runemast1> In the space of about an hour, ive got 500 lines in /var/log/messages about my touchpad losing sync
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> yowshi,  learning how fstab works and how to mount things manually. is a VERY VERY VERY handy skill to learn
[01:40] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get gusty to work with yahoo internet radio
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: don't install beryl
[01:40] <Malik_> y not?
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: use compiz fusion
[01:40] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, you should be able to run wine and/or vmware under ubuntu and that should give you the edge. mind you, not everything runs smoothly with linux, especially when they aren't designed to run on linux.
[01:40] <Dr_willis__> !compiz | Malik_
[01:40] <ubotu> Malik_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:40] <unop_> yowshi, well, if you are never going to take chances -- you're never going to learn -- :) and with the right restraint, adding an fstab entry is actually quite safe and easy to do
[01:40] <geektasticgirl> lol instead of improvingg wine, they take opensource code, modifiy it and sell it.. i thought that was against the license?
[01:40] <ka2> Malik_: beryl is no longer developed
[01:41] <vocx> Fryguy--, copy that.
[01:41] <Malik_> but the cube
[01:41] <Malik_> its awesome
[01:41] <ka2> geektasticgirl: not the old one
[01:41] <willytell> Could a hard disk with Linux installed on a computer work on another computer?
[01:41] <yowshi> unop_, i have taken chances before and i have paper eighted my comp before
[01:41] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  beryl IS compiz now.
[01:41] <geektasticgirl> compiz rocks
[01:41] <unop_> yowshi, havent we all? :)
[01:41] <ka2> geektasticgirl: wine used to be bsd licensed
[01:41] <Malik_> o
[01:41] <Stormx2> willytell, maybe
[01:41] <Dr_willis__> i think the cube is useless...
[01:41] <ka2> Dr_willis__: compiz fusion
[01:41] <Malik_> do i need intert to install that
[01:41] <Cann0n> Malik_, you get my email?
[01:41] <geektasticgirl> did they stealt hat idea from apple quartz compositor or did apple steal it from the linux community? heh
[01:41] <yowshi> unop_, but there are somethings so beyond me in current understanding i wont do anything to them without someone there to guide me because i have no tiddly fracking idea what i am doing
[01:41] <Malik_> lemme check
[01:42] <ka2> geektasticgirl: steal what idea
[01:42] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  you need to get your video card drivers properly installed first
[01:42] <slide> how do i regenerate shadow from passwd after i do vipw?
[01:42] <unop_> yowshi, really, it's not that scary -- and you can always backup /etc/fstab before making changes to it - so if incase you do mess up, you can always restore it
[01:42] <Malik_> alrite  so wat do i do
[01:42] <unop_> yowshi, we can walk you through it if you like :)
[01:42] <yowshi> unop_, of course one has to be able to recognize one has made the mistake in the first place
[01:42] <Dr_willis__> !nvidia | Malik_
[01:42] <ubotu> Malik_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <ka2> Malik_: fiesty or gutsy?
[01:42] <willytell> Stormx2, what's depend it?
[01:42] <geektasticgirl> ka2, quartz compositor, under mac os x makes use of 3d card and everythign is really fast .. i was wondering if the developers of compiz got the idea from apple
[01:42] <Malik_> wat?
[01:42] <Malik_> wat r those
[01:42] <Stormx2> willytell: Well do you want to boot from the linux disk or just view the files on it?
[01:42] <Stormx2> !r | Malik_
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <Stormx2> Oh whack.
[01:43] <unop_> yowshi, ok ok, so you're against an fstab entry - you can always have your panel entry -- same difference :)
[01:43] <Stormx2> Malik_, please spell, thanks :)
[01:43] <yowshi> well ok i got everything i need then i just have to backup amovies and the since i did manage to get a friend to drop off a disk i can reinstall and ask you guys how to put my desktop panel back up and my programmes tooi
[01:43] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  it may be best to go to ubuntu.com and read their beginner guides. :) and the ubuntu book at......
[01:43] <willytell> Stormx2, I want boot from the linux disk.
[01:43] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get gusty to work with yahoo internet radio
[01:43] <yowshi> unop_, i aint against it i would love to learn fstab i just wont do it solo :)
[01:43] <Malik_> i read a few
[01:43] <geektasticgirl> anyways it hougth the apple mac was so cool, had microsoft beat as far as window graphics.. until i saw what linux can do with compiz ... lool
[01:43] <Stormx2> willytell: Pretty slim chance it'll work 100%
[01:43] <Malik_> but can u help me get compiz
[01:43] <grumpy_gramps> my hp deskjet lives on a ms machine serving as print server.  Nothing I have tried has succeeded in getting my new ubuntu machine to see it.  Can anyone help?
[01:43] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training  -
[01:44] <unop_> yowshi, you can learn about /etc/fstab by reading the manpage -- man fstab
[01:44] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  compiz IS installed allready on the latest gutsy/ubuntu release.
[01:44] <vocx> geektasticgirl, it doesn't matter whose idea was it. It is developed by open source so nobody is stealing anything. Let's just say everybody had the same idea at the same time.
[01:44] <Malik_> how do i check which realse i hav
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> vocx, was jsut curious
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> who came up iwth teh idea
[01:44] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl, open source is why linux is free, and there are so many distro's
[01:44] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  what did you install?  try lsb_release -a in a terminal
[01:44] <Cann0n> geektasticgirl,  google.com
[01:44] <unop_> Malik_, lsb_release -a
[01:44] <Malik_> i got the 7.10 veersion
[01:44]  * yowshi faints* unop_ i have tried i dopnt get much from how-to's and walkthroughs unless they are really REALLY thorough. i am to newb to everything
[01:44] <geektasticgirl> yeah i'll google it
[01:44] <Cann0n> this is ubuntu chat
[01:44] <Malik_> alrite 1 sec
[01:45] <yowshi> unop_, so if there is a an acronym used or a -R in a command i dont know what it does i need to know befor ei use it and howtos dont generally explain that
[01:45] <Stormx2> geektasticgirl: Who came up with what idea?
[01:45] <spork969> open source is why i am still living
[01:45] <phoenix24> anyone using anjuta ?
[01:45] <Malik_> gusty
[01:45] <spork969> without open source, the world would be much colder
[01:45] <geektasticgirl> stormx2 compositer
[01:45] <Malik_> gutsy*?
[01:46] <Malik_> i got gutsy
[01:46] <phoenix24> I try to open C src file in anjuta, but it throws an error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955/
[01:46] <ka2> Malik_: go to System > Appearance > Desktop Effects
[01:46] <Cann0n> Malik_, lets solve the wifi problem first. :P
[01:46] <anaxagorus> for some reason, my highlight is not copying to clipboard -- anyone know how to troubleshoot this?
[01:46] <andrea6030> how do i set up firefox so the irc xdcc commands pass through?
[01:46] <Malik_> i can't find apperance
[01:46] <Malik_> nvm
[01:46] <Fryguy--> phoenix24: you aren't trying to open it in anjuta, you are trying to open it in nautilus, big difference.  right click the file and select open with
[01:46] <ka2> Preferences > Appearance
[01:47] <geektasticgirl> i was surprised to see how fast gimp and open office loads on linux/ubuntu.. open office loads up much slower on windows.. i love this os.
[01:47] <geektasticgirl> alright gonna go, thanks all for the help
[01:47] <Malik_> where is desktop effect
[01:47] <anaxagorus> i.e. when i highlight text, i can't paste it -- this used to work
[01:47] <willytell> Stormx2, thank you for the answer. I'll try it out.
[01:47] <Malik_> can0n: first this
[01:47] <unop_> yowshi, well, part of learning about linux is learning where to look for information depending on the context -- sometimes you have to read manpages, sometimes vendor documentation, sometimes other people's blogs, there are many ways..
[01:47] <spork969> geektasticgirl, good luck with your formatting
[01:47] <spork969> unless you already did
[01:47] <ka2> Malik_: Visual Effects
[01:47] <Malik_> i can't find desktop effect??
[01:47] <spork969> which is probably true
[01:47] <vocx> geektasticgirl, thats probably because the gtk libraries and some other libraries are already loaded on Ubuntu when you start your gnome session.
[01:47] <agroker> geektasticgirl, ever tried ooo quickstarter under windows? Bet, you'd be surprised
[01:48] <yowshi> yes i know google is my friend
[01:48] <Malik_> yea i see it
[01:48] <Cann0n> Malik_, i also have a guide on how to get compiz working under ATI devices   :P
[01:48] <rodolfo> Buenas
[01:48] <Malik_> its on extra
[01:48] <rodolfo> hello
[01:48] <yowshi> but i learn better interactivly
[01:48] <Fryguy--> anaxagorus: how are you trying to paste
[01:48] <ar0n> Cann0n id like to see that guide....
[01:48] <Dr_willis__> Malik_,  you will proberly want to install the 'ccsm' tool to have full control of all the compiz-eyesore-candy :)
[01:48] <Dr_willis__> !ccsm | Malik_
[01:48] <ubotu> Malik_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:48] <geektasticgirl> lol eyesore? haha
[01:49] <unop_> yowshi, it is tough at first .. even i'll admit to having torn my hair out several times when i first started -- but it gets better and soon you don't even realize things have gotten easier :)
[01:49] <ethan961> compix-eyesore?
[01:49] <anaxagorus> wait -- the middle button just worked!
[01:49] <geektasticgirl> compiz makes me much more productive
[01:49] <Malik_> so where do i go to install ccsm
[01:49] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: how
[01:49] <vocx> anaxagorus, the middle button is the best!
[01:49] <yowshi> unop_, your talking to someone who actually forgot how to make and make install after not using either command for a few months
[01:49] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,  i can think of like 2 features of compiz that i like :)
[01:49]  * nikrud thinks everyone should have to hand craft ppp and chat scripts just once 
[01:49] <Dr_willis__> geektasticgirl,   and the rest. is just to impress the windows zombies standing behind me.
[01:50] <unop_> nikrud, no, please no :p
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> ability to press super + mouse scroll wheel to to adjust opactiy of any window.. super M for negative of any window... Scale plugin rocks.. see all windows from all workspaces at once .. so many thijngs
[01:50] <runemast1> I tried to install fluxbox on a computer at school... i couldnt get any application menus or anything... any ideas i can try when i go back?
[01:50]  * ka2 thinks nikrud should try to forget about dialup ;)
[01:50] <Malik_> where do i go
[01:50] <ar0n> Cann0n
[01:50] <Cann0n> Malik_, i told you,    sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> the cube is wonderful
[01:50] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: any decent window manager is going to have similar functionality
[01:50] <Malik_> alrite
[01:50] <yowshi> nikrud i have written a couple irc scripts waaaaaaaaaaaay back
[01:50] <sarixe> hi, how do i disable gutsy-backports?  it's messing with a PPA that i had a better amarok (lipgpod3 support) from...
[01:50] <Cann0n> ar0n, yes?
[01:50]  * regeya uses the expose-like feature of compiz to great effect
[01:50] <unop_> yowshi, well, you should test my memory sometime .. i have a 5 second attention span and forget like a goldfish :p
[01:50] <Malik_> type that in the keernal wile live vd is in rite
[01:50] <ar0n> compiz and ati
[01:50] <geektasticgirl> fryguy they run compiz?
[01:50] <ar0n> you had a guide.
[01:51] <ka2> the zoom is great (Windows Key + Scrollwheel) in compiz
[01:51] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: ?
[01:51] <geektasticgirl> ka2, indeed
[01:51] <Cann0n> its under construction :P
[01:51] <yowshi> unop_, LOL you sound like me LOL
[01:51] <Cann0n> you need help?
[01:51] <geektasticgirl> ka2, i scrool and super L, to lock and play games that were made in low rez lol
[01:51] <diuneigh_> can we receive any technical support here?
[01:51] <vocx> sarixe, check in software sources or repositories
[01:51] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: ask a question
[01:51] <unop_> yowshi, so it wasnt just me, eh? ;) and it isnt just you -- welcome to humanity :)
[01:51] <vocx> diuneigh_, read the topic also.
[01:52] <Saraphim> Greetings. Is there any way to easily upgrade my gutsy to Hardy to participate in testing?
[01:52] <ka2> geektasticgirl: i might try that one i hadn't thought of that
[01:52] <sarixe> vocx: but is it as simple as just removing things?  i mean, how to i downgrade back to the normal repo?
[01:52] <Fryguy--> Saraphim: join #ubuntu+1
[01:52] <Saraphim> Fryguy--: Thanks
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> to see videos of what compiz fusion can do:  go to youtube and search on compiz
[01:52] <Cann0n> ar0n, you need to get ATI Radeon cards working under compiz-fusion?
[01:52] <diuneigh_> fryguy:  tryguy trying to mount my windows drive from another machine to my ubuntuu desktop so other programs can see it..
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> you'll see about 50 videos
[01:52] <ka2> sarixe: you don't
[01:52] <ar0n> well kinda, im using the 'ati' driver and i had to disable i something in a boot file somewhere i think disabling acpi(very late at nite and under meds) any how it was the only way i could get videos to play back
[01:52] <geektasticgirl> it is awesome, no other os can do this yet that i knwo of lol
[01:52] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: install samba and use that
[01:52] <vocx> sarixe, yes it should be simple. The repositories appear on /etc/apt/sources.lis
[01:52] <ar0n> i just want to get my vid card properly installed on my box
[01:52] <saminthemiddle> hello everyone
[01:53] <Cann0n> ar0n, join #Cann0n
[01:53] <sarixe> ka2, vocx : does it automatically downgrade all the packages?  or does it just leave them sitting?
[01:54] <ka2> sarixe: leaves them sitting
[01:54] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: both vista and osx are capable of similar feature sets
[01:54] <vocx> sarixe, oh, it does not "downgrade" that's silly. It just disables the repositories. I guess, that if you want the older packages you have to (re)install them yourself.
[01:54] <Fryguy--> geektasticgirl: eyecandy is a waste of time in general.  cool to show off 3d effects I guess, but I prefer to get work done
[01:54] <sarixe> vocx, ka2: and then i can safely downgrade the individual package?
[01:54] <Cann0n> ar0n, type   lspci -nn | grep VGA and see what kind of card you have, then you need to see if it is compatiable with full 3d support. some ATI cards arent
[01:55] <unop__> yowshi, anyway -- i hope my suggestion of leaving sdb intact for now suits your requirement for now -- i'm off to install windows on my sisters laptop
[01:55] <vocx> sarixe, I guess so. Because the non-backported are the ones originally distributed with the distro.
[01:55] <saminthemiddle> hey, could anyone help we with my wireless? I need to start and stop my IPW3945 card on sleep/resume else the computer crashes.
[01:55] <sarixe> vocx: k, i'll try what you guys said
[01:56] <saminthemiddle> the problem that I have is that I can't find the daemon (which is what is causing the problem) in /etc/init.d/ so I don't know how to kill it nicely
[01:56] <CokeNCode> ok, so i've loaded up a live cd, because my linux distro isn't coming up
[01:57] <CokeNCode> how do i mount the hard drive
[01:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: use the mount command
[01:57] <vocx> saminthemiddle, you can use /etc/init.d/networking [stop|start|restart]
[01:57] <CokeNCode> i never did quite get the hang of the linux mount command
[01:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: man mount has everything you need to knwo
[01:57] <CokeNCode> Fryguy--,  ... syntax ? :S
[01:57] <saminthemiddle> thanks vocx
[01:57] <donkey7186> im looking for someone who can help me get a command that allows me to startup my wireless connection instead of having to go through manual configuration
[01:57] <saminthemiddle> vocx, I'm guessing that that kills ALL of my network interfaces, right?
[01:57] <danand_> CokeNCode - Places -> Computer -> Rclick on drive and select mount
[01:58] <ViO> hi guys, how do i fix my cpu speedstep in oh-holy-ubuntu 8.04 ?
[01:58] <CokeNCode> example of the syntax please :(
[01:58] <Fryguy--> ViO: join #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: like i said, everything you need to know is in the man page
[01:58] <ViO> =)
[01:58] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: mount /dev /mountpoint
[01:58] <Al-Khouli> Guys, am packages problem or it's Ubuntu ?! i can fill the RAM and swap space by just scrolling over a pdf file !!
[01:58] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm running 'mount /dev/hda
[01:58] <CokeNCode> '
[01:58] <ka2> saminthemiddle: yes thats all interfaces
[01:58] <CokeNCode> but i'm getting errors
[01:58] <CokeNCode> why won't that work
[01:59] <vocx> saminthemiddle, maybe. I'm not sure. By the way, those are scripts. So you can read them and try to figure out what they do. They also invoke other scripts like "ifup" and "ifdown"
[01:59] <saminthemiddle> ka2, vocx, thanks, let me test that, brb
[01:59] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: depends on what the errors are, read the manpage
[01:59] <ka2> Al-Khouli: in evince ("Document Viewer")
[01:59] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[01:59] <donkey7186> im looking for someone who can help me get a command that allows me to startup my wireless connection instead of having to go through manual configuration
[01:59] <CokeNCode> it's saying the mount point doesn't exist
[01:59] <yowshi> unop_, it does indeed. and when amovies is done copying i will be reinstalling ubuntu
[02:00] <Fryguy--> Al-Khouli: i can scroll through 1000+ page ebooks without issue
[02:00] <vocx> CokeNCode, commands like mount need root access, which means you use "sudo mount"
[02:00] <m1r> my CPU is being used 100% by trackerd , is it posible to stop it working and starting on system boot ?
[02:00] <danand_> CokeNCode - do your drives not show up in the Places -> Computer  window?
[02:00] <yowshi> and then i'll be back with a crapload of questions
[02:00] <agroker> donkey7186, what is the wireless interface name?
[02:00] <saminthemiddle> vocx, ka2, nope I'm still here; the network is still online
[02:00] <woodwizzle> I just downloaded skype 2.0 now that its final. It is for i386 though and I'm on amd64, how can I get it to install? (i know I got one of the previous betas to work)
[02:00] <CokeNCode> danand_, i'm running nubuntu
[02:00] <Al-Khouli> ka2, yes, and i am using a wine to run PDF X-change and it has the  same problem, so it thought it's not evince !
[02:00] <unop__> yowshi, whatever you do -- dont format anything on sdb :)
[02:00] <yowshi> LOL of course not
[02:00] <itaku> how can i run mac os x or yahoo widgets on ubuntu?
[02:00] <CokeNCode> vocx, yeh, i've been using sudo
[02:00] <Al-Khouli> Fryguy--, do u use evince !?
[02:00] <diuneigh_> fryguy:  done that already....where can I get the syntax for mounting the network drive?
[02:00] <Cann0n> ar0n, you want that guide?
[02:00] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: please pay attention to what I said before.  example  mount /dev /mountpoint, and i'm going to say it again, read the manpage everything you need to know is in there
[02:00] <CokeNCode> 'sudo mount /dev/hda /'
[02:00] <yowshi> how can i make sure before i reboot that everything is where i think it is partition wise
[02:00] <vocx> saminthemiddle, what? It should work. "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop"
[02:00] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: smb://ip
[02:00] <ka2> itaku: you can't
[02:01] <CokeNCode> but, where's my hard drive mounted now ? :S
[02:01] <itaku> there has to be a program to
[02:01] <saminthemiddle> vocx, that's right
[02:01] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem her!
[02:01] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: it's mounted on /
[02:01] <diuneigh_> fryguy: should I follow this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingNovellNetworkDrives?highlight=%28mount%29%7C%28drive%29%7C%28network%29
[02:01] <agroker> CokeNCode, df
[02:01] <Cann0n> Christoz, what is it?
[02:01] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: do you have a novell network drive?
[02:01] <saminthemiddle> Christoz, at least you don't have a very serious problem "him" ;-)
[02:01] <donkey7186> agroker what do you mean wireless interface name
[02:01] <donkey7186> like eth1?
[02:01] <Christoz> lol
[02:01] <unop__> yowshi, well, it matters when you are installing ubuntu and you're at the paritioning screen -- it'd be best to not touch sdb there at all -- just concentrate on sda
[02:01] <Christoz> listen
[02:01] <Al-Khouli> saminthemiddle, lol
[02:02] <Christoz> Cannon i have a laptop which has the ati radeon x1600 vga card ,tried to enabled via the restricted device manager and after logging out a "new" operational system appeared I think that that was Xubuntu (this iso cd comes from the linuxformat Greece magazine).Then restarted the computer and after that Ubuntu never has loaded yet....it "jams" in with a black screen and seconds after , the hard drive stops reading or writing...This must be very
[02:02] <Christoz> serious!
[02:02] <Christoz> Please help me with this.
[02:02] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[02:02] <diuneigh_> Fryguy: no, that the only think I could find on the forums that deals with mounting a network drive.
[02:02] <agroker> donkey7186, type iwconfig in the shell and inspect the output
[02:02] <CokeNCode> i don't see anything
[02:02] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[02:02] <yowshi> right but swap might be on sdb but i dont have to format swap either so either way sdb not getting touched
[02:02] <yowshi> all on sda
[02:02] <Fryguy--> diuneigh_: just install samba and visit smb://<ip> in nautilus
[02:02] <CokeNCode> is there another name that my hard drive could possibly have
[02:02] <donkey7186> agroker eth1
[02:02] <danand_> CokeNCode - mount command - sudo mount -t <fstype> /device/path /mount/point -o <options ie ro,noexec etc>
[02:02] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: yes
[02:02] <diuneigh_> fryguy: ok I'll try..
[02:03] <ne0> hello
[02:03] <ka2> hello
[02:03] <saminthemiddle> hello, ne0
[02:03] <agroker> donkey7186, then you should isssue something like: sudo ifup eht1
[02:03] <unop__> yowshi, well, yea -- but only you know where swap is now .. anyway, you get my point :)
[02:03] <CokeNCode> how do i know what the name of the hard drive is ?
[02:03] <ne0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708726
[02:03] <Al-Khouli> hello ne0
[02:03] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: look at dmesg
[02:03] <ne0> is there and update for that wacom drivers?
[02:03] <runemast1> CokeNCode: fdisk -l
[02:03] <Cann0n> Christoz, does it jam as in the a faulty xorg config?
[02:03] <noble-> I installed ubuntu on a dual boot with vista. I have tons of free space on the vista partition, but only about 9gb on Ubuntu's partition. Is there a way I can dedicate more of vista's freespace to Ubuntu without destroying either OS?
[02:03] <yowshi> yeah anyway whats the command to list my partition
[02:03] <yowshi> partitions
[02:03] <donkey7186> agroker how do i do that. i want it to be a command on startup so i dont have to do manual config.
[02:03] <unop__> yowshi, sudo fdisk -l
[02:03] <Fryguy--> noble-: use a tool like gparted or partition magic to resize the partitions
[02:03] <CokeNCode> fdisk -l didn't do anything
[02:03] <yowshi> thanks
[02:03] <r00723r0> Is there any BitPim-like software for Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: look at dmesg
[02:04] <Al-Khouli> noble-, u can resize ur vista partition from inside vista
[02:04] <ne0> ?
[02:04] <saminthemiddle> well, I think I know why my sleep hasn't been working right, obviously /etc/init.d/network doesn't control the IPW3945 card so the sleep script hasn't been shutting it down. ergo, bad things happening on resume.
[02:04] <amenado> CokeNCode-> look at this directory  /dev/disk   by-uuid
[02:04] <agroker> donkey7186, then you should go under System->Administration->Network and play with settings there
[02:04] <yowshi> cool everything is where i nthought it was :)
[02:04] <Christoz> Cannon I don't know never been xperienced in this problem ,this is a friends of mine eho brought it to me
[02:04] <ka2> ne0 is using an hp tx2000 tablet pc and the wacom drivers included in ubuntu don't support his tablet
[02:04] <Al-Khouli> noble-, then mount /home for instance on that partition
[02:05] <Christoz> Cannon and brought it to me
[02:05] <belkinhelp2> how can you change servers?
[02:05] <ne0> so theres no drivers for it right now? I have that tablet so I was thinkin of booting to ubuntu with it but i need that to work
[02:05] <UncleChevitz> I'm a linux newb, port 25 is open on my machine and I don't think it needs to or should be open, how do I close it?
[02:05] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: ?
[02:05] <ka2> ne0: looking
[02:05] <saminthemiddle> ka2, ne0, I didn't even know that Linux supported tablet PCs at all!
[02:05] <donkey7186> agroker i have played with the settings. but for some reason when i startup, in order for my wireless to work i have to change a setting in manual config.
[02:05] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: stop running whatever MTA you are running
[02:05] <Christoz> Cannon after the "grub" screen i pick the ubunt and then it just stops
[02:05] <yowshi> hmmm i thought i had a /log partition since someone once told me /log gets fragmented crazy fast so having it seperate to format or empty out everynow and then is a good idea
[02:05] <Al-Khouli> noble-, i mean the freed one
[02:05] <ne0> what should I do?
[02:05] <belkinhelp2> for instance irc.onlinegamesnet.net
[02:05] <yowshi> anyone have any suggestions for partition setups
[02:05] <vocx> Fryguy--, MTA? What is it?
[02:05] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[02:06] <hackeron_> is there anyway to record from line-in and use skype or any other voip at the same time? - It seems I have to select my source to be either the microphone or line-in - is there no way to do both?
[02:06] <belkinhelp2> how would i get on that server?
[02:06] <Fryguy--> vocx: Mail transfer agent
[02:06] <ka2> saminthemiddle:: well these ones work - http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=679
[02:06] <Cann0n> Christoz, try selecting the failsafe boot option in grub. you might need to get access to a command line and type  z> Cannon and brought it to me
[02:06] <agroker> donkey7186, how does your /etc/network/interfaces file looks like?
[02:06] <potato> can some one tell me how i can make sure that my usb wireless card is working?
[02:06] <belkinhelp2> is there a /join server command?
[02:06] <Cann0n> woops hold on. let me get you the command
[02:06] <Christoz> Cannon i need youtr guide in console
[02:06] <UncleChevitz> thanx Fry, I installed Apache to play with it, does it have an MTA?
[02:06] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, I though that etc3 automatically kept itself unfragmented. My software engineer friend tried to explain it to me once but it was way over my head
[02:06] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: depends on the irc client you are using.  outside of the scope of this channel
[02:07] <vocx> ne0, send mails to the wacom people asking them to release drivers for linux. That's it. If they open source the specifications of their tablets, linux people can create the drivers themselves.
[02:07] <donkey7186> agroker how do i look for that? im a noob at this
[02:07] <rodolfo> Hello I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22-14-generic from the repository, but when I reboot my pc, it lost the wireless connection and it still has the Intel wireless drivers, what exactly do I need to do to fix this problem?
[02:07] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: no
[02:07] <Tempo-> I just finished installing ubuntu on computer, but it has a usb wireless card. how can i get and install the proper drivers without having internet for the ubuntu machine (i have internet on my Mac and that is what I am using here)
[02:07] <belkinhelp2> im using the ubuntu client that comes standard with 7.1ß
[02:07] <Keidale> Hey all I'm having an issue with the download manager, it's not installing in the right folder. : ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[02:07] <belkinhelp2> 7.10
[02:07] <vocx> belkinhelp2, I think it is "/server freenode"
[02:07] <Cann0n> Christoz, try typing   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, from what i have read on ext3 it does a pretty good job of keeping itself fragment free as long as there is about 25% of the hdd space free
[02:07] <agroker> donkey7186, type: grep auto /etc/network/interfaces
[02:07] <potato> can some one tell me how i can make sure that my usb wireless card is working i have ubuntu 7.10 should it just auto detect it?
[02:07] <danand_> CokeNCode - if you run sudo fdisk -l that should give you a list of all your partitions and file system types
[02:07] <M4rotku> how do I delete a directory that only has root permission?
[02:07] <ka2>  belkinhelp2: what client?
[02:07] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: become root and delete it
[02:07] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, hence my huge hard drive
[02:07] <ne0> I heard some distros have drivers for tablets?
[02:07] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, hehehe how big is your hdd?
[02:07] <woodwizzle> I just downloaded skype 2.0 now that its final. It is for i386 though and I'm on amd64, how can I get it to install? (i know I got one of the previous betas to work)
[02:07] <M4rotku> fry, how do i log into root?
[02:07] <ne0> like gentoo or something
[02:08] <donkey7186> it says auto lo and auto eth1
[02:08] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: use su, or sudo
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, 160GB
[02:08] <vocx> potato, check the ubuntuforums.org search for your USB wireless card, and read other people's experiences
[02:08] <belkinhelp2> xchat-gnome 0.18
[02:08] <donkey7186> agroker it says auto lo and auto eth1
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, w/ hardware FDE :-D
[02:08] <M4rotku> i tried using sudo with the rm command it and said i couldn't delete a directory
[02:08] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, cool i got 3 250 gigs two of which are in actual constant use
[02:08] <Tempo-> should i do same thing as potoato?
[02:08] <potato> vocx: thanks for the info
[02:08] <Cann0n> ne0, many come with those drivers. its the matter of configuring
[02:08] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, hardware FDE?
[02:08] <Fryguy--> M4rotku: so then read the manpage for rm and realize you need to specify -r
[02:08] <ne0> oh
[02:08] <M4rotku> ok, got yah, i'll try it, thanks
[02:08] <ka2> saminthemiddle: 160gb huge?
[02:08] <tocmo0nlord> installing cpanel on server at home via SSH, im on laptop now, laptop rebooted, lost the ssh window, how would i be able to resume viewing what is going on ?
[02:08] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, hardware accelerated full disk encryption. courtesy of my Fritz chip :-)
[02:08] <ne0> so then its not configured for ubuntu
[02:09] <danand_> M4rotku - what directory are you trying to delete
[02:09] <yowshi> ka2, 160 is pretty big
[02:09] <saminthemiddle> ka2, for me it is
[02:09] <Christoz> Cannon ok I'm in CInfiguring xserver-xorg
[02:09] <Fryguy--> tocmo0nlord: you can't, dropped connection is a dropped session.  run gnu screen next time.  it allows session saving
[02:09] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i dont need encryption much on this desktop
[02:09] <Tempo-> I'll take your silence as yes...
[02:09] <rahduke> quick question little help please
[02:09] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, unless you're storing video, then it's small
[02:09] <vocx> ne0, it is configured for Ubuntu and for many users. What happens here is that yours does not work with the current driver, you are out of luck maybe.
[02:09] <yowshi> so anyone got any partition setup suggestions?
[02:09] <rahduke> I installed some fonts and there not showing up in appearance settings
[02:09] <ka2> yowshi: and i got a 320gb because it was cheap ?!
[02:10] <Remi_> does ubuntu support the 8600gs m?
[02:10] <M4rotku> dan, i had created one for a game to load files to, it didn't work so i don't need it anymore, it's gone now
[02:10] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, as for me, lossless audio storage and even then it's big enough
[02:10] <tocmo0nlord> <Fryguy-- is the proccess still running even if i got disconnected ?
[02:10] <Fryguy--> tocmo0nlord: no
[02:10] <agroker> donkey7186, sorry I  don't know
[02:10] <donkey7186> ok
[02:10] <tocmo0nlord> ah crap
[02:10] <danand_> M4rotku - k ... just in case :)
[02:10] <Fryguy--> rahduke: how did you install the fonts?
[02:10] <saminthemiddle> ka2, yowshi, 320GB isn't cheap on a laptop drive. ever
[02:10] <ka2> saminthemiddle: ah a laptop :)
[02:10] <rahduke> thru gksudo nautilus copy and paste
[02:10] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, aaaaaah well i dont have a laptop :(
[02:10] <ne0> so should I use another distro?
[02:10] <potato> vocx: do i just put the name of it or the model num too?
[02:10] <ka2> saminthemiddle: that explains it
[02:10] <Gman99999> Does anyone know if ubuntu can handle WPA with an invisible wireless network name ie "unamed network"?
[02:10] <rahduke> i see them in the font foler
[02:11] <Fryguy--> rahduke: where did you install them do
[02:11] <Keidale>  Hey all I'm having an issue with the download manager, it's not installing in the right folder. : ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[02:11] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: yes it handles it fine
[02:11] <UncleChevitz> I don't actually need port 25 open unless I use a client that uses that port right?
[02:11] <thehilarityensue> lol
[02:11] <rahduke> fonts:///
[02:11] <yowshi> rahduke, i dont use nautilus in gksudo after the first time i tried it. i ttried it and then after i closed the window nautilus was still using like half of one of my cores
[02:11] <Fryguy--> UncleChevitz: right
[02:11] <Gman99999> fryguy-- ok i had problems with it, it didnt even pick my network up and i was a foot away from it
[02:11] <yowshi> rahduke, in processing power
[02:11] <saminthemiddle> ka2, yowshi, yes, I am planning on getting a 500gb 3.5 w/ enclosure soon to compliment a TV tuner card
[02:11] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: that's unfortunate
[02:11] <rahduke> what would u suggest instead?
[02:11] <Gman99999> fryguy-- when i boot into windows on the same computer it works great
[02:12] <rahduke> how else can i modify files like that without being root?
[02:12] <vocx> potato, usually they have a name like Belking 54, and a revision like v5 or v7. More important is the chipset, which you know once you are running the Ubuntu CD. Why don't you try the Live CD already?
[02:12] <Fryguy--> rahduke: go to fonts:// in nautilus and drag/drop your fonts there to properly install them
[02:12] <saminthemiddle> by the way, can anyone recommend, preferably a hybrid, tv tuner card that works though the USB interface?
[02:12] <yowshi> rahduke, i use pc file manager launched from the cli in sudo
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: works fine for me
[02:12] <rahduke> ill look into it
[02:12] <danand_> yowshi - /boot = 100Mb , /root = 10-25Gb , swap = 2xRam or 2gb max , /home = rest
[02:12] <rahduke> so your saying drag and drop don't copy and paste?
[02:12] <Gman99999> fryguy-- do you know how to install kde ontop of a ubuntu installation?
[02:12] <Fryguy--> rahduke: or whatever, sure
[02:12] <rahduke> what should i do with the existing fonts in that folder?
[02:12] <yowshi> danand_, thanks why root?
[02:12] <vocx> UncleChevitz, I think you are being paranoid. That seems like a Windows attitude.
[02:12] <ne0> or would others distro wouldnt matter
[02:12] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: yes, google it it's like the first result (short answer: install kubuntu-desktop)
[02:13] <Christoz> Cannon ok Ii choose vesa xserver friver?
[02:13] <UncleChevitz> recovering windows user
[02:13] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, by the way, if you want to know my partition scheme, it's 6gb of / 2.1gb of swap (for hibernation purposes) and the rest /home
[02:13] <rahduke> ive already put the fonts in the fonts:// folder
[02:13] <Christoz> Cannon ok I choose vesa xserver driver?
[02:13] <rahduke> they don't show up after reset
[02:13] <Fryguy--> rahduke: no idea then
[02:13] <danand_> yowshi - sorry ... tired .... that should be / ie your root partition :)
[02:13] <vocx> ne0, you could try another distro, but when it comes to hardware (video cards, tablets, etc.) they are handled by the linux kernel which is basically the same for all distros.
[02:13] <yowshi> oh /root as in just /
[02:13] <UncleChevitz> you hit the nail on the head
[02:13] <potato> vocx: i dont use the live cd i hhave it alredy installed
[02:13] <danand_> yowshi - yes :)
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, and if you're going to put them on separate partitions at least make them LVM, but that negates the fragmentation advantages of separate partitions
[02:14] <ne0> so do i just need to wait im guessing or something
[02:14] <ne0> for drivers
[02:14] <Gman99999> fryguy-- with this give me the new kde 4.0 or 3.5?
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, on the other hand, you have to weigh the cost of the guaranteed seek time that you impose with partitioning
[02:14] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: 3.5 probably
[02:14] <potato> vocx:  this wireless card is not for connecting my laptop to the net its to connect to my psp
[02:14] <itaku> is there any NCAA program for linux?
[02:14] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, that are all going to be on one hdd
[02:14] <hikenboot> greetings all is it true ubuntu 7.1 during install offers the option of full disk encryption?
[02:14] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, my advice would be, unless you have a very good reason to put it on a different partition, don't
[02:14] <itaku> some taskbar widget or something
[02:14] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, the second hdd is not going to be touched and just added later in fstab
[02:15] <Christoz> Cannon r u still there?
[02:15] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: need to use alternate install cd for it, but yes
[02:15] <vocx> potato, then type "lsusb" it should list all your USB devices. Check then information displayed. Then search the forums. If it's something proprietary it won't work.
[02:15] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, how does LVM work anyway. i understand nothing about it
[02:15] <hikenboot> does the alternate cd dis offer anything the ubuntu desktop does?
[02:15] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, you might want to consider making them on an LVM so you can merge the two drives later if you want, say a 600gb /home (good god, why?)
[02:15] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: ?
[02:15] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, I don't have much time but
[02:15] <potato> vocx:  ok ill try it
[02:15] <hikenboot> am i loosing a lot by using the alternate cd?
[02:15] <vocx> ne0, yes, wait for drivers. Ask the hardware manufacturers to release linux drivers.
[02:15] <potato> thanks alot
[02:16] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, LVM is basically a big partition with sectors (or whatever they call them) in it
[02:16] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, each sector is assigned a virtual partition
[02:16] <Fryguy--> hikenboot: no. it installs the same system.  it's just a text-based installer with advanced features instead of being a livecd
[02:16] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, 600+ GB hgome for video storage i have 100+ gigs in video already not to mention ISO's and stuff for game play since i prefer to use images instead of cd's
[02:16] <Tempo-> Ok. after looking on the ubuntu wiki and forum, none of my usb wireless network cards are supported. I really want unternet for my ubuntu computer, but don't want to run a cable all through the house. am i screwed?
[02:16] <hikenboot> great thanks Fryguy--
[02:16] <ne0> hmm so should I install ubuntu or not....
[02:16] <ViO> how do i enable speed step on my cpu.. (c2d 2.2ghz - laptop)
[02:16] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: use a pci wireless card, or get a wap to act as a repeater
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, in other words, rather than having a contiguous zone for a partition, the partition is just like a file on a partition
[02:17] <m1r> Tempo- try ndiswrapper
[02:17] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i dont think i will need to merge the hdd's later on into one partition if unop__ 's idea works as i think it will
[02:17] <Tempo-> Fryguy: don't have a pci wireless card. don't know what a wap is (or a repeater for that matter)
[02:17] <vocx> Tempo-, you can buy another, cheap, guaranteed-to-work card. That way you support those who release drivers and cooperate with open source.
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, the big advantage of LVM is threefold, first, the partions can be fragmented allowing for instant resizing of partitinos
[02:17] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: time to do a  bit of research then i guess
[02:17] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, also, it makes the partitions device independent
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, partitions device?
[02:18] <Tempo-> vocx: it is 7 at night, it is alittle late to go do anything right now.
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, finally it's only two fold :-)
[02:18] <m1r> Tempo-: ndiswrapper and windows driver
[02:18] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem her!
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, partitions become device independent
[02:18] <Keidale> What do I need to change so the update manager will load to right folder
[02:18] <Christoz> Hello Everyone I have a very serious problem here
[02:18] <Tempo-> I was wondering if there were any drivers i could download and compile
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, and that means?
[02:18] <vocx> Tempo-, what are these cards you have that don't work?
[02:18] <Christoz> Cannon i have a laptop which has the ati radeon x1600 vga card ,tried to enabled via the restricted device manager and after logging out a "new" operational system appeared I think that that was Xubuntu (this iso cd comes from the linuxformat Greece magazine).Then restarted the computer and after that Ubuntu never has loaded yet....it "jams" in with a black screen and seconds after , the hard drive stops reading or writing...This must be very
[02:18] <Christoz> serious!
[02:18] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, the partition does not care if it has a sector in a different device or not
[02:18] <Tempo-> why would pci work and not usb?
[02:18] <vocx> Tempo-, well I don't mean buy them right now! I mean next time you have the time.
[02:18] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, i see
[02:19] <Christoz> sorry cannon
[02:19] <belkinhelp2> I have a seemingly simple question.  How do I create a desktop "shortcut" to a folder in someone else's account?
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, normally partitions have to be contigious sections of disk
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, anyway, I really need to go
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, ttyl
[02:19] <Dr_willis__> belkinhelp2,    ln -s /one/place/ /path/to/otherplace/
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> thanks everyone
[02:19] <Fryguy--> Christoz: boot to a recovery system and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that it has proper settings for your setup, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <yowshi> saminthemiddle, so thats why to make /home over 2 hdd's one needs to lvm it
[02:19] <vocx> Tempo-, the drivers are already compiled when you install the distribution so getting and compiling source most probably won't do anything better.
[02:19] <yowshi> laterz saminthemiddle
[02:19] <Tempo-> vocx: i got it. that was my attempt at sarcasm. guess i forgot to stretch my sarcasm muscle
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, that is right
[02:19] <Dr_willis__> belkinhelp2,  i may have the 2 arguments backwards
[02:19] <saminthemiddle> yowshi, later
[02:19] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: explain
[02:20] <danand_> ViO - have you checked you have the correct module loaded into the kernel ... type - lsmod | grep speedstep and see if anything shows up. if not, you may want to try a modprobe -l | grep speed to show available drivers
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> ln -s /one/place/ /path/to/otherplace/  is that like source and destination?
[02:20] <Tempo-> so i really only have two choices. get a different card, or go wired?
[02:20] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: yes
[02:20] <itaku> how can i run mac os x or yahoo widgets on ubuntu?
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[02:20] <Christoz> fryguy with vi i have never used it before...i do not know what to choose for dpkg-recon....xserver-xorg
[02:20] <ka2> itaku: no
[02:20] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: they are the easiest choices, yes
[02:20] <belkinhelp2> do all the paths start with /home?
[02:21] <vocx> Tempo-, you are hilarious. I like you. Anyway. Which cards are these? I need to know which not to buy.
[02:21] <itaku> ka2, there has to be a way a program or something...
[02:21] <Fryguy--> Christoz: there's other editors available than vi (and just learn it it's not that hard), and the options for dpkg-reconfigure are based on your hardware, you need to be somewhat familiar with your hardware in order to configure it
[02:21] <Tempo-> fryguy--: if they are the easiest what are the not so easy choices. (probably over my head right?)
[02:21] <arooni_> is there a way i can compress a .mpg file from 1024 resoltion to something that i could upload to youtube?
[02:21] <Christoz> ok wirh lspci?
[02:21] <Fryguy--> Tempo-: finding and compiling kernel modules, which is outside of the scope of this channel
[02:22] <Fryguy--> arooni_: use mencoder
[02:22] <ViO> !pastebin
[02:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:22] <unop__> arooni_, sure, check out ffmpeg (i think i already suggested that to you(
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> !pastebin
[02:23] <Tempo-> fryguy--: bummer. make no mistake, I live and breathe computers (macs and windows) but this is my first indeavor into linux. Ill be sumbleing around for the next month while i get comfortable...
[02:23] <Tempo-> *stumbling
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> ViO, how could i ask tell the bot to throw things on the screen ?!
[02:23] <Al-Khouli> ask -
[02:23] <vocx> Tempo-, the last resort would be to use "ndiswrapper" to use your windows XP drivers in linux. But since you checked the wikis and forums...
[02:23] <Netham45> I have 3443 lines of this: 3443	99.249.167.138	Unnamed	NO	Canada	Rogers Cable
[02:23] <Netham45> and all I want isthe IP
[02:23] <Netham45> how would I go about extracting that?
[02:24] <Tempo-> vocx: Ndiswrapper? is that like wine?
[02:24] <ViO> Al-Khouli: commands? type a personal message like help to it..
[02:24] <Fryguy--> Netham45: sed and awk, or perl, or cut.  shell scripting is outside of the scope of this channel
[02:24] <Netham45> ok
[02:24] <Pici> Netham45: try #bash
[02:24] <Netham45> 'k
[02:24] <Christoz> fryguy what should i put when it ask aount of memory to be used by the video card?
[02:25] <Fryguy--> put how much you need
[02:25] <vocx> Tempo-, it is only good for network drivers, search the term NDIS (wikipedia).
[02:25] <Christoz> fryguy amount sorry
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Christoz: i don't knwo your hardware, and I dont' really want to know what it is.  You are responsible for knowing what the hardware is on your machine
[02:25] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, pastebin
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:25] <Tempo-> vocx: thanks for the help.
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Christoz: just pick a value, if it's wrong, just reconfigure it again
[02:25] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, man
[02:25] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:25] <unop__> Netham45, cat file | perl -nle 'print /((?:\d{1,3}(?:\.|\b)){4})/'
[02:26] <dyrne> Christoz: its usually pretty good about determining this  if you dont know the answer just hit enter
[02:26] <nikrud> oh, my eyes!
[02:26] <Netham45> unop: freaking sweet. ^.^
[02:26] <Netham45> thanks.
[02:26] <pi_master> I have so much trouble figuring this out from what's out there online...what's the best way to run a program on startup of GNOME in ubuntu?
[02:26] <Al-Khouli> ViO, does it annoy all the guys around ?!
[02:26] <Fryguy--> unop__: cut would do a far better job, but ok :0
[02:26] <ViO> usually
[02:26] <Fryguy--> pi_master: system | preferences | session
[02:26] <unop__> FrancoGG, better job?? thats very very debatable -- but anyway
[02:26] <Christoz> fryguy ok question 2nd: use kernel frame buffer device interface?
[02:26] <vocx> unop__, that's excessive no? I think a simple awk print $2 or something would do. If the input is separated by spaces in columns.
[02:26] <dyrne> pi_master: system --> pref --> sessions --> startup tab
[02:27] <Fryguy--> Christoz: i have no idea, it depends on your hardware and how you want it configured.
[02:27] <Al-Khouli> ubotu, help
[02:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:27] <unop__> vocx, yes, but you have to absolutely ensure that you dont get something that resembles an IP address but isnt actually an IP address printed out -- soemthing like 123.123 or 1.2.3.4.5
[02:28] <pi_master> thanks dyrne...everything else I've been able to find has a bunch of different config and rc files you can edit....which always turns out bad
[02:28] <Lokey> Yea i have a printer and it works and everything but when i try to scan something it dont go to the computer
[02:28] <unop__> vocx, and it's not excessive, i think it homes right in on whats needed
[02:28] <vocx> unop__, gotta love the perl
[02:28] <belkinhelp2> damnit....the last folder is named "two words" and the link is now to a file named "words"....how do I give the link command to incorporate noncontiguous folder names?
[02:28] <dyrne> pi_master: well you could edit /etc/init.d/skeleton which is basically a template for making your own init.d script then run sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname defaults but ... yeah that may be overkill :)
[02:29] <unop__> vocx, it's my swiss army knife :) replacement for sed, awk, cut, grep, etc, etc :)
[02:29] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: properly escape your file names, or use quotes
[02:29] <vocx> unop__, swiss army chainsaw
[02:29] <belkinhelp2>  ln -s /home/"Eigene Musik" /home/testuser/Desktop/Musiclink ...like this?
[02:29] <Netham45> hey unop__, how do I add :1080 on to the end of that?
[02:29] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: no
[02:30] <unop__> vocx, well, yea, the noun could be anything you like :)
[02:30] <potato> vocx: my spicific model doent pull up in the fourms
[02:30] <yowshi> ffs it takes so blasted long to copy over 83.7 gigs of stuff
[02:30] <Tempo-> vocx: alright. so if it isn't in the wiki or the forum it won't work, period?
[02:30] <tritium> yowshi: watch the foul-language acronyms please
[02:30] <unop__> Netham45,  perl -nle 'print /((?:\d{1,3}(?:\.|\b)){4}:1080)/'
[02:30] <Netham45> ty ty ty
[02:30] <vocx> Tempo-, most probably. But I need to know the model. Maybe I can search better than you.
[02:31] <yowshi> ummmm it's just an acronym i didnt actually post the words
[02:31] <belkinhelp2> what about an underscore...i remember in unix that used to "space"
[02:31] <potato> vocx:  my wireless card doesnt pull up in the fourms]
[02:31] <belkinhelp2> is it the same here?
[02:31] <vocx> potato, Tempo- also try the solutions in threads with devices similar to yours
[02:31] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: an underscore is an underscorre, it's not a space, and it never has been
[02:31] <yowshi> anyway bbs i gotta reinstall ubuntu
[02:31] <Netham45> unop__, it returns a bunch of blank lines.
[02:31] <schnootop> anyone know of a good colour picker tool for ubuntu which can grab colours from external applications ?
[02:31] <Christoz> fryguy nope no progress
[02:31] <Tempo-> vocx: d-link wua 1340
[02:31] <potato> vocx:  ok
[02:32] <belkinhelp2> ok, out of ideas.  I can just rename the folder so that is simply one continuous word
[02:32] <unop__> Netham45, are you trying to match 1.2.3.4:1080  ??
[02:32] <Netham45> yea
[02:32] <Netham45> erm
[02:32] <Netham45> no
[02:32] <ViO> *in real need of speedstep help (c2d) can't seem to get it down on battery mode.. :/)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60367/
[02:32] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: we gave you the solution, what is the problem
[02:32] <Netham45> I want to add :1080 to the end of the IPs
[02:32] <vocx> Tempo-, potato but yes, if it doesn't appear on the forums, congratulations your device is unique. Only you possess it in the whole planet.
[02:32] <tsmith0> Hi, I'm using ubuntu studio 7.10 x86_64 with an ati x1900xt. After the system boots, I am treated to a nice black screen. The system freezes and won't let me reach a terminal, I am forced to boot into recovery mode and switch my driver to vesa instead of the proprietary ati drivers. Vesa seems to be stuck at 60hz refresh and it's really killing my eyes. Here's my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log from when this happens: http://www.everlastinglands.com/wet_dog/lin
[02:32] <tsmith0> ux/xorg.conf http://www.everlastinglands.com/wet_dog/linux/xorg.log
[02:32] <unop__> Netham45, ahh, right, i see
[02:33] <Netham45> I'm an uber-n00b at this, heh.
[02:33] <belkinhelp2>  properly escape your file names, or use quotes....
[02:33] <belkinhelp2> quotes around the folder name?
[02:33] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: yes
[02:33] <belkinhelp2> k
[02:33] <Christoz> fryguy OOOPS! i'm in another op system now with blue background and is a gnome one
[02:33] <Fryguy--> quotes around the path
[02:33] <Tempo-> vocx: before you go to far searching for me, keep in mind that i have only looked at the official ubuntu documentation. i did a quick google search too. I'll search for a while than come back if i need help or run out of ideas.
[02:33] <unop__> Netham45,  perl -nle 'print /((?:\d{1,3}(?:\.|\b)){4})/, ":whatever"'
[02:33] <Netham45> ty
[02:34] <belkinhelp2>  ln -s /home/"Eigene Musik" /home/testuser/Desktop/Musiclink ...like this?...then you answered not.  Thats why i was stumped
[02:34] <belkinhelp2> was that no for someone else?
[02:34] <Tempo-> vocx: here is a link I just found. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/D-Link_WUA-1340
[02:34] <tsmith0> belkinhelp2: if that was directed to me, I'm very sorry I'm not experienced at irc. "http://www.everlastinglands.com/wet_dog/linux/xorg.conf" "http://www.everlastinglands.com/wet_dog/linux/xorg.log" Hopefully that works
[02:34] <foxtail> hey everybody
[02:34] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: path, not the directory
[02:34] <belkinhelp2> nm...i got it to work
[02:34] <Tempo-> this looks promising.
[02:35] <Tempo-> vocx: I'll try that and come back to you
[02:35] <foxtail> just installed irc and seeing if it works
[02:35] <Tempo-> foxtail: it works
[02:35] <joshsmac> hello
[02:36] <vocx> Tempo-, oh yes. I've heard of WICD before. I've never used it.
[02:36] <foxtail> so this is where i come to find some info?
[02:36] <foxtail> thanks
[02:36] <Tempo-> vocx: i will try wicd. thanks for all of your help!
[02:36] <joshsmac> I was wondering can you make a desktop ubuntu system from the server edition install? i don't want to download another iso ;-)
[02:36] <goose_> I have a memory card that's mounting as read-only; how can I format it?
[02:36] <Fryguy--> joshsmac: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <DEXTREX> What are ubuntu teams?
[02:37] <joshsmac> ty
[02:37] <computer13137> Hi
[02:38] <computer13137> Quick Ubuntu question... more linux in general, but I want to do it on Ubuntu.
[02:38] <unop__> goose_, how are you mounting it?
[02:38] <vocx> joshsmac, there are other base packages for basic X environment. But if you are unsure you should install one of the -desktop packages as pointed out.
[02:38] <Ashfire908> goose_: it's mounting read-only every time you put it in? check if the lock switch/slider is not on.
[02:38] <sam__> hi does anybody know why my DWA-542 (atheros chipset) wireless card is not being recognized like at all. Its just not showing up in iwconfig. I installed the ndiswrapper driver and I could not find where to download madwifi, only madwifi-utils was in synaptic. I am using 7.10 x86_64
[02:38] <computer13137> Do you know of anything for Ubuntu that can make it act like a "terminal server" or "remote desktop server" like Windows Server 2003, etc?  So multiple users can login, and have a desktop, over the RDP protocol?
[02:38] <biabia> slight trouble with ubuntu wireless. it connects, but it doesnt want to stay connected. i tried the command line setup and that didnt seem to work. gui worked but it has to be configured every time i boot
[02:38] <computer13137> Sam__: have you tried modprobing it?
[02:38] <sam__> yes i did modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:38] <goose_> unop__, I just plugged the microSD card into the USB reader and then the USB reader into the USB slot. Ubuntu auto-mounts it. Ashfire908: there's no lock switch.
[02:38] <unop__> compu73rg33k, check out ltsp and vnc
[02:39] <vocx> DEXTREX, where did you read that?
[02:39] <Fryguy--> computer13137: not over rdp, but there are plenty of resources available for doing multiple remote connections, for terminals using ssh, or for x sessions using xdmcp
[02:39] <computer13137> unop: And that's "exactly like RDP"?
[02:39] <computer13137> unop: Multiple accounts and stuff?
[02:39] <dyrne> biabia: so it stays connected while you are running but you lose the default settings after reboot?
[02:39] <vocx> sam__, you should not use madwifi and ndiswrapper together, they are separate drivers.
[02:39] <computer13137> fryguy: I'm talking about a Gnome or KDE session.
[02:39] <foxtail> can anyone tell me how to clear the print que
[02:39] <Fryguy--> computer13137: as am I
[02:39] <CokeNCode> what file system does ubuntu use by default guys ?
[02:39] <CokeNCode> ext3 ?
[02:39] <Fryguy--> computer13137: ext3
[02:39] <CokeNCode> hmm
[02:39] <Fryguy--> computer13137:
[02:39] <computer13137> Fryguy: Example of software you're referring to?
[02:39] <sam__> vocx I only have the ndiswrapper driver as far as i know, i could not even find the madwifi driver in synaptic
[02:39] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: wow i hate nickcomplete
[02:39] <Scunizi> How do I know if keytouch is loaded and running?
[02:39] <Fryguy--> computer13137: X11
[02:39] <wil> I think this is a issue with ubuntu rather the game, but I could be wrong..... I play spring, and it sometimes looks like it crashes to desktop, but the program is actually still running and working as It reloaded when I put the machine in to standby and it came out... also, the cpu is still high.... how can I switch between and get the game up? it is not showing on taskbar or in alt+tab
[02:40] <computer13137> Fryguy: ltsp looks good.
[02:40] <computer13137> :P
[02:40] <unop__> compbrain, RDP is the protocol -- ltsp uses RDP -- but if you are asking if it's exactly like remote desktop/terminal services, then yes and no, it depends on what you choose
[02:40] <computer13137> Fryguy: Any specific software recommendations I can look at?
[02:40] <unop__> compu73rg33k, ^^^
[02:40] <Fryguy--> computer13137: xdmcp
[02:40] <computer13137> unop: I just want multiple users to be able to login and do stuff...and "close the session" while leaving stuff running.
[02:40] <computer13137> Just like RDP.
[02:40] <Ashfire908> goose_: k. to format it you have to unmount it, then either get a partitioning program, or you need to find which file formater you need
[02:40] <computer13137> unop: Those are the main features I'm concerned with.
[02:40] <computer13137> Session management, etc.
[02:40] <sam__> my wireless card shows up in lspci, but iwconfig and ifconfig dont see anything except my ethernet
[02:40] <vocx> sam__, I recall madwifi is included in the standard install. You need to remove that driver and blacklist it so it doesn't conflict with ndiswrapper.
[02:40] <foxtail> can anyone help me?
[02:41] <Fryguy--> foxtail: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[02:41] <DEXTREX> peoples whois vocx
[02:41] <goose_> Ashfire908, is there a terminal command I can use to force it to mount as read/write, then another one I can use to format it?
[02:41] <computer13137> Unop and FryGuy: Also, that the RDP server can be connected to with Windows without running an X server and all that junk you have to do to do X tunneling. :P
[02:41] <foxtail> just need to know how to clear print q
[02:41] <sam__> vocx, that makes sense but a.how do i black list it and b. why was my wireless card not deteted if madwifi was included? is it perhaps an old version?
[02:41] <biabia> dyrne: yeah
[02:41] <talcite> hi guys
[02:41] <talcite> why does tomcat want me to install x11-common..?
[02:41] <Ashfire908> goose_: do you need to access it in read write or do you want to format it?
[02:41] <foxtail> fryguy
[02:41] <talcite> this is rather puzzling
[02:42] <vocx> sam__, perhaps. They maybe different tricks. You needed to update the firmware, etc.
[02:42] <computer13137> What kind of software do I use on a Windows box to connect to LTSP?
[02:42] <Fryguy--> computer13137: if you want rdp, using windows terminal server
[02:42] <goose_> Ashfire908, I stuck it in my friend's phone to give him a ringtone and it f*cked up my memory card, locked it in read only, I think. but I'm not sure exactly what it did. hasn't worked since I pulled it out
[02:42] <goose_> foxtail, what's wrong?
[02:42] <dyrne> biabia: are you using wep or wpa or is it unencrypted?
[02:42] <sam__> vocx, so should i blacklist madwifi and keep trying to go with ndiswrapper? According to ndisgtk the net5416 driver is installed, but still nothing detected :(
[02:42] <foxtail> how can i clear the print q
[02:42] <foxtail> goose
[02:43] <Ashfire908> goose_: ok. again though, do you want to format it or mount with rw?
[02:43] <biabia> wpa2
[02:43] <foxtail> i try to cancel it but it's still there
[02:43] <vocx> sam__, you don't really need ndisgtk, that's for weak people. Use command line. Also there isa million different atheros chipsets, so try with another atheros driver, and it may just work.
[02:43] <goose_> Ashfire908, format I suppose. there's weird files on there with strange names in formats I've never seen before. but to format it, I need to mount it in read/write. I tried to format it like is, but it didn't work
[02:43] <biabia> dyrne: when it connects its good, full speed 6000kb/s
[02:44] <goose_> foxtail, do you have the printer icon in the systray?
[02:44] <CShadowRun> anyone know of a linux keyboard tester? (Prefer it to be in Synaptic :p)
[02:44] <tamim5> what
[02:44] <CShadowRun> or some way i can tell what the keycodes of my keys are
[02:44] <Scunizi> CShadowRun, you looking to map keys?
[02:44] <foxtail> well in the bar above
[02:44] <CShadowRun> yes.
[02:44] <Ashfire908> goose_: uh, no you don't ned to have it mounted. you actually need to have it unmounted.
[02:44] <tamim5> who
[02:44] <CShadowRun> I'm a colemak user:P
[02:44] <Fryguy--> CShadowRun: xev
[02:44] <vocx> Tempo-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506907&highlight=dlink+1340
[02:44] <dyrne> biabia: open a terminal and type gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:44] <KemrinH> Hey, I'm having trouble getting my Webcam to work (still) it's a ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam
[02:44] <sam__> vocx, well i am using the driver ndiswrapper said to use, and i dont really care whether i use the command line or a gui i just want to get online :(. like i said though, mad-wifi was working on arch linux but there does not seem to be an update for it in any repos
[02:44] <goose_> Ashfire908, I had no idea. :P What do I do once I unmount it?
[02:44] <Scunizi> CShadowRun, the one that worked for me was evtest.. xev didn't work for a lot of keys
[02:44] <warriorf1rgod> I just ran sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird on my system, got no errors, but it doesn't appear to be installed. Any suggestions?
[02:45] <Ashfire908> goose_: well do you know what device (/dev) the card is?
[02:45] <Fryguy--> warriorf1rgod: what makes you think it's not installed?
[02:45] <goose_> foxtail, it helps if you put the nick of the person you're talking to in the sentence so I know to look for it
[02:45] <unop_> warriorf1rgod, try this too -- sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[02:45] <goose_> Ashfire908, I can find it with ls, right?
[02:45] <vocx> sam__, you only get updates in Ubuntu with each new distro. Only security updates are applied instantly.
[02:45] <foxtail> sorry, been abit using irc
[02:45] <warriorf1rgod> Fryguy--: No entry under the menus and running mozilla-thunderbird in terminal brings nothing.
[02:45] <tamim5> what about you?
[02:45] <warriorf1rgod> unop_: Tried that too.
[02:45] <foxtail> goose
[02:46] <Ashfire908> goose_: haha, gooooood luccck.
[02:46] <foxtail>  i mean
[02:46] <computer13137> Uhm... it looks like that LTSP requires "ethernet booting" on the client side... that's not what I'm going for.  I want something you can use with a client program from within Windows... :P
[02:46] <goose_> Ashfire908, I can find it. what do I do once I find it?
[02:46] <computer13137> Still have suggestions for me guys?
[02:46] <unop_> warriorf1rgod, what happens when you type this out in ALT+F2  thunderbird
[02:46] <sam__> vocx, I mean upgrading the mad-wifi version through apt-get
[02:46] <tamim5> no
[02:46] <Fryguy--> computer13137: i already told you use xdmcp
[02:46] <dyrne> biabia: can you pastebin the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the url?
[02:46] <Ashfire908> goose_: you won't find it. if it's mounted (mounted period) you use...
[02:46] <foxtail> goose is there a way to clear print jobs....won't stop with cancel
[02:46] <unop_> compu73rg33k, a vnc server should suit you fine -- soemthing like xvnc (that might already be built into ubuntu)
[02:46] <Ashfire908> goose_: df.
[02:47] <computer13137> Fryguy: OK, and how exactly do I access that once it's setup?
[02:47] <computer13137> Fryguy: That's my concern at this very second. :P
[02:47] <warriorf1rgod> unop_: NM.  Just figured it out.  I was sshed into my webserver not realizing it and installed it on there.
[02:47] <goose_> Ashfire908, it's mounted as /media/V/
[02:47] <Fryguy--> connect to it via an x connection
[02:47] <vocx> sam__, exactly, you cannot upgrade to a new one, until the new Ubuntu version is released. That's how it work on Ubuntu.
[02:47] <unop_> warriorf1rgod, ha ha
[02:47] <Ashfire908> goose_: it will list currently mounted devices. it should be the last.
[02:47] <warriorf1rgod> unop_: lol.  Which is better to install thunderbird, or mozilla-thunderbird
[02:47] <Ashfire908> goose_: k
[02:47] <computer13137> FryGuy: I'd rather not have to do it that way.
[02:47] <yowshi> wow it worked
[02:47] <computer13137> There's no easier way?
[02:47] <KemrinH> Anyone have any idea what a good step would be? I've got the Video4Linux and Video4Linux2 drivers installed and I can't get it to work
[02:47] <CokeNCode> ah yes
[02:47] <computer13137> That doesn't involve a client side X server?
[02:47] <CokeNCode> finally got it mounted
[02:47] <CokeNCode> it was hdc1
[02:47] <sam__> vocx wait, so software only gets updated with new releases :S
[02:47] <Fryguy--> computer13137: so wtf do you want? an rdp connection that instead of bringing up windows it just magically brings up a full featured linux environment?
[02:47] <yowshi> The test of the file system with type ext2 in partition #1 of SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sdc) found uncorrected errors.
[02:47] <yowshi> If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct these errors, the partition will be used as is. <--- whats this mean? whats scsi 5 exactly
[02:47] <unop_> warriorf1rgod, either should install the intended package i.e. thunderbird
[02:47] <goose_> Ashfire908, I know it's /media/V/, what do I do now?
[02:48] <Ze_Colmeia> hello
[02:48] <computer13137> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp/  << That looks interesting.
[02:48] <Fryguy--> computer13137: in windows, with no additional software? you need to be more specific what you want here man
[02:48] <yowshi> oh wait sdc how did i miss that. the gentoo boot partition
[02:48] <Ashfire908> goose_: what fs type you want to use? (FAT, FAT32, etc)
[02:48] <computer13137> FryGuy: I'd prefer to be able to use the MS RDP client.
[02:48] <vocx> sam__, exactly. It remains frozen for 6 months. You people should read about this before switching distros.
[02:48] <CokeNCode> ok, i want to search the drive i just mounted ... for .tor files
[02:48] <goose_> Ashfire908, no idea
[02:48] <computer13137> FryGuy: Looks like xrdp can do that.
[02:48] <CokeNCode> how do i do that ?
[02:48] <biabia> dyrne: yeah hang on im going to sign on here from that pc. its in the other room
[02:48] <triton> hey vocx:
[02:48] <Ze_Colmeia> what channel ubunto BR ?
[02:48] <yowshi> i can safely delete that :)
[02:48] <Starnestommy> Ze_Colmeia: maybe #ubuntu-br
[02:48] <aoeuid> problem: sound has stopped working, even after restarts, and even on a livedisk of a different version of ubuntu
[02:48] <sam__> wow now what distro should i use :'(
[02:48] <computer13137> FryGuy... OK, let me sum it up in one long paragraph. :P  One moment.
[02:49] <aoeuid> any chance this is a software problem, or is my audio card probably boned?
[02:49] <Ashfire908> goose_: well... sorry one sec i'm not on ubuntu/linux sys right now, one sec while i ssh into one
[02:49] <Ze_Colmeia> StarfleetNDP, thanks
[02:49] <computer13137> FryGuy: I want a Remote Desktop\Terminal Server for my Linux server.  It will be running Gnome and\or KDE sessions, I have not decided.  I would like to be able to login to this with the Microsoft RDP Client on Windows.  The login page is displayed, people use their accounts to login to Linux, and there you go... it's there, remotely, just like RDP in Windows Server.
[02:49] <vocx> sam__, some people like the stability Ubuntu provides. Some people always want the latest so they use Debian unstable or Arch. There are options for everybody.
[02:50] <computer13137> Does that clear things up for you FryGuy?  Sorry about the lack of precision in my request.
[02:50] <Fryguy--> computer13137: lol good luck with that
[02:50] <goose_> Ashfire908, much appreciated
[02:50] <computer13137> FryGuy: Never done it that way? :P
[02:50] <Fryguy--> computer13137: i'm rarely in a gui
[02:50] <computer13137> FryGuy: It seems very plausable to me, surely someone came up with a way to do it.
[02:50] <sam__> vocx well i dont want to go back to Arch, because i was having major problems with lag even after recompiling the kernel. does debian have good hardware / driver detection because i want to be done with this by the end of hte night?
[02:50] <Fryguy--> computer13137: my gui consists of multiple terminals, so i've never had a need
[02:50] <Ashfire908> goose_: one moment, the one i could get to via web broswer doesn't have the tools on it, i got to get stuff....
[02:51] <computer13137> FryGuy: I don't have a need either... I know my commands, and do most of my stuff in terminals too... but I like GUI, and I'd like to give out RDP accounts. :P
[02:51] <CokeNCode> ah yes
[02:51] <computer13137> The reason I'm going with Linux is because I'm too cheap to buy a license to Server 2k3. :P
[02:51] <CokeNCode> figured it all out
[02:51] <CokeNCode> lovely
[02:51] <computer13137> And because I'd rather not run pirated versions of Windows...on a datacenter server...
[02:51] <computer13137> :P
[02:51] <unop> compu73rg33k, it's definitely possible -- but you'll need to setup a samba domain controller to manage user accounts and authentication for all the users
[02:51] <goose_> Ashfire908, I appreciate the effort, but girlfriend just called, and she's higher on my priority list than my mem. card or ubuntu. I'll try again later tonight. thanks for helping, though!
[02:52] <vocx> sam__, troubleshooting linux is half the fun! Most of Ubuntu is taken from Debian, so guess. Stay in Ubuntu. If it is fixed in Arch, probably the next release of Ubuntu will included the fixes.
[02:52] <computer13137> unop: OK...
[02:52] <Newbuntu2> i get this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/) when I try to read a file. can someone tell me what's going on and how to fix it?
[02:52] <computer13137> brb, I'm going to get my test machine fired up. :P
[02:52] <KemrinH> ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam problems. If anyone has experience or knowledge it'd be appreciated.
[02:52] <sam__> vocx, lol its not fun for me anymore :( i just want to get a stable os going
[02:53] <Gman99999> hey once you download kde how to you switch to it as a display manager?
[02:53] <Dr_willis__> Gman99999,  the GDM login screen has a menu.
[02:53] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: you mean kdm?
[02:53] <Dr_willis__> Gman99999,  look for a sessions menu item
[02:53] <Fryguy--> Gman99999: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=I4r&q=ubuntu+switch+from+gdm+to+kdm&btnG=Search
[02:53] <bzlbb> dyrne still there <---biabia
[02:54] <bzlbb> that command didnt do anything
[02:55] <unop> Gman99999, did you want to change the display manager or the window manager ? there's a difference
[02:55] <Ashfire908> goose_: ugh, give me a while now... (my dog ate my food while i was going to the bathroom...
[02:55] <Lapinux> did you learn anything?
[02:55] <Gman99999> I just want to have the choice of either logging into kde or gnome?
[02:55] <rico42955> anyone know compiz really well
[02:55] <Gman99999> I want to try out kde right now and re log into ubuntu using it
[02:55] <KemrinH> I have a working knowledge of use.
[02:55] <Fryguy--> rico42955: ask a question, don't ask to ask, and probably ask it in #compiz-fusion rather than here
[02:56] <unop> Gman99999, well, at the GDM login screen -- choose a session -- and its as simple as that
[02:56] <rico42955> thanks
[02:56] <Gman99999> ok cool thanks
[02:56] <KemrinH> What do you need to know?
[02:56] <Dr_willis__> So simple  people over look it!
[02:56] <Dr_willis__> :)
[02:56] <Ashfire908> Fryguy--: that channel redirects to #ubuntu-effects now i think
[02:56] <Fryguy--> Ashfire908: other way
[02:56] <bzlbb> dyrne: auto lo          iface lo inet loopback
[02:57] <CokeNCode> arrrrrrrrrrrgh so close
[02:57] <CokeNCode> it won't let me access the files on the hard drive now
[02:57] <CokeNCode> i'm getting permission errors
[02:57] <CokeNCode> any suggestions
[02:57] <vocx> !enter | CokeNCode
[02:57] <ubotu> CokeNCode: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: give yourself the correct permissions
[02:57] <KemrinH> sudo chown  yourname /whatever
[02:57] <CokeNCode> Fryguy--, it wont let me change any permissions
[02:57] <CokeNCode> wait, I guess i have to be root
[02:57] <vocx> CokeNCode, check the permissions of the mount point, and the mount command, is it ntfs?
[02:57] <Fryguy--> CokeNCode: you can do whatever you want as root
[02:57] <Ashfire908> Fryguy--: gha, one redirect to the other, that's all i remembered
[02:58] <xtknight> which library allows me to execute sun java 6 thru the firefox browser?
[02:59] <xtknight> i am trying to get sun java as a plugin to my firefox but not icedtea or any of the alternatives which seem to fail each time i try them
[02:59] <CokeNCode> thanks, chmod 777 worked
[02:59] <CokeNCode> jeeze ... i'm acting like such a n00b tonight
[02:59] <Fryguy--> xtknight: any java install is going to do the plugins right
[02:59] <Ashfire908> what's the command line tool for formating a partition with fat/fat32?
[02:59] <xtknight> Fryguy--, jre package ?
[02:59] <vocx> xtknight, "sun-java6-plugin" I think
[02:59] <snarkster> hi guys.
[02:59] <Dr_willis__> Ashfire908,  mkfs.vfat
[03:00] <Dr_willis__> Ashfire908,  try mkfs.<tab>  to see all the variants
[03:00] <triton> I need opinions. should  I get rid of vista on my tablet pc even though it will be a while until drivers are released? I do want to use the tablet capabilities still...
[03:00] <Zarius> Howdy, I'm having trouble restarting compiz from a remote ssh connection, can anyone help?
[03:00] <xtknight> vocx, this package does not exist for x86_64 architecture, apparently ?
[03:00] <Fryguy--> Zarius: compiz runs in a graphical environment, you'll need to forward or export your X display via the ssh connection to run it
[03:00] <KemrinH> 1 sec xtknight
[03:00] <vocx> xtknight, java doesn't exist in x86_64 apparently?
[03:00] <Tempo-> vocx and anybody alse who cares: using wicd i was able to get my wireless card (wua 1340) working! yay
[03:01] <xtknight> vocx, jre does but not the plugin
[03:01] <Fryguy--> xtknight: need to run it in compatibliity mode, see google
[03:01] <KemrinH> Why don't you just install it from the Add/Remove programs menu?
[03:01] <thisdyu> hey guys anyone manage to get aircrack going?
[03:01] <Fryguy--> thisdyu: wrong channel
[03:01] <xtknight> compatiblility mode yikes :)
[03:02] <thisdyu> ok whats the right channel
[03:02] <bzlbb> dyrne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60370/
[03:02] <Zarius> Fryguy--, I've used ssh -X & ssh -Y, also used xhost +<ip> to add authority... I get "invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key"... am I starting compiz right with "DISPLAY=":0" compiz --replace"?
[03:02] <KemrinH> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:02] <Fryguy--> thisdyu: probably #aircrack
[03:02] <xtknight> KemrinH, E: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[03:02] <KemrinH> xtknight - what about sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin (in terminal)
[03:02] <xtknight> KemrinH, yea that is the error it gives me
[03:02] <rockcityvi> Hello,
[03:03] <nikrud> !gutsysources | xtknight
[03:03] <ubotu> xtknight: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[03:03] <Fryguy--> Zarius: dunno
[03:03] <dabbill> I have desktop cube enabled, but when i view the cube it dont show the back 2 desktops, only the 2 directly visable. Is there any setting for this?
[03:03] <bzlbb> /notice dyrne http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60370/      <-- biabia with the wireless trouble, on other pc
[03:03] <rockcityvi> I keep trying to download the ubuntu .iso but it freezes after 50% or so, is there a better place to download it from?
[03:03] <Zarius> I'm fairly sure I can restart gdm, but I'd rather learn how to restart compiz remotely in case I need to do it again in the future.
[03:03] <xtknight> nikrud, i have all repositories enabled including backports.  however, sun-java6-plugin does not exist on amd64.  is this a bug?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/sun-java6-plugin
[03:03] <bzlbb> doh
[03:03] <nikrud> xtknight: nope, sun didn't make one
[03:04] <xtknight> ok
[03:04] <Fryguy--> dabbill: in compizconfig-settings-manager there are tons of options, i'm sure there's a set of options there that are right for you
[03:04] <Fryguy--> xtknight: the java plugin isn't available in x64
[03:04] <dabbill> Fryguy--, been lookin for an hour or so cant find it :(
[03:04] <Fryguy--> dabbill: try paginating just columns instead of rows, and mess with transparency to get it to look how you want
[03:05] <xtknight> ok interesting because flash on x64 is bundled with nspluginwrapper, java6 is not.    licensing problem?
[03:05] <yowshi> bbs renbooting
[03:05] <vocx> Either way icedtea is the future, supposedly.
[03:06] <Zaider> hello! What dir should I use in replacing the PWDIR in PARAMS="-m ${PWDIR}"
[03:06] <LeChacal> hello, has anyone gotten ubuntu to run in qemu? i am getting an error dealing with the cdrom. I am running ubuntu 7.10 as host and  trying 7.10 as guest.
[03:06]  * rockcityvi I keep trying to download the ubuntu .iso but it freezes after 50% or so, is there a better place to download it from?
[03:06] <Fryguy--> Zaider: in reference to what
[03:06] <Zaider> its for the saslauthd
[03:06] <Fryguy--> LeChacal: use virtualbox instead of qemu. it's superior in every way
[03:07] <Zaider> i just read the tutorials in the ubuntu forums
[03:07] <xtknight> ya.  qemu supports kvm, although i find virtualbox faster anyway because of the mouse drivers it offers (like "VMWARE Tools")
[03:07] <Zaider> in configuring postfix
[03:07] <Dr_willis__> qemu has its 'specific'  goals. :) comparingit to virtualbox. is like comapring a scooter to a car. :)
[03:07] <LeChacal> Fryguy--: isnt it commercial though?
[03:07] <Fryguy--> LeChacal: there is an open source edition, in the repositories
[03:07] <xtknight> the benefits of kvm are negotiable anyway.
[03:08] <vocx> LeChacal, both versions are free to use, and one of them is open source.
[03:08] <xtknight> the commercial version adds a couple faetures, i believe USB
[03:09] <LeChacal> i just want a test system to play with because i often destroys system when playing and i still want something to work on
[03:09] <Yowshi> how does this thing NOT come with xchat preinstalled
[03:09] <Fryguy--> LeChacal: so use virtualbox
[03:09] <thisdyu> hey guys i just got an acer aspire 4315 with ubuntu on it, and i cant su to root?
[03:09] <xtknight> Yowshi, ubuntu comes with pidgin which also supports the IRC protocol.
[03:09] <Yowshi> man 200 files to download right off the bat
[03:09] <vocx> LeChacal, if you are just starting with virtualization I agree with Fryguy-- and xtknight, use virtualbox.
[03:09] <Fryguy--> Yowshi: because there are better alternatives to xchat, and irc isn't really a requirement of desired application of a typical user
[03:09] <LeChacal> Fryguy--: ok ill try it thank you
[03:09] <Starnestommy> thisdyu: use sudo
[03:09] <Ashfire908> i installed ubuntu on a computer and i installed grub on a flash drive (the install is posibly/probaly tempoary) and when i finally got the computer to boot the flash drive, i got a black screen with a blinking underline cursor (a few lines down from the top of the screen).
[03:09] <thisdyu> ok
[03:10] <LeChacal> vocx: i choose qemu because i know it from windows
[03:10] <Yowshi> Fryguy--: i would disagree especially since this is where one comes for interactive tech support when it is needed asap
[03:10] <xtknight> LeChacal,  virtualbox is very easy to pick up as well. and you will enjoy the performance and feature benefits.  it has mouse drivers so the mouse is native speed
[03:10] <Yowshi> but i am pleasantly suprised to find that sdb IS already mounted
[03:10] <vocx> Yowshi, what did you download?
[03:11] <L7> Are you guys recommending Virtualbox over VMWare these days?
[03:11] <dyrne> bzlbb: what is your wireless interface? what is the name of the wifi router?
[03:11] <Fryguy--> L7: yes
[03:11] <xtknight> L7, having extensively used both i like vmware better, still
[03:11] <Yowshi> download? well right now i am downloading the updates ready for install after my fresh install
[03:11] <twistedbeatfreek> i cant seem to get compiz fusion working for my desktop cube how do i fix this any advice
[03:11] <dabbill> Still not able to find any of those settings.
[03:11] <vocx> xtknight, mouse drivers? every virtualization technology has that now, it's not new.
[03:11] <L7> I still haven't tried Virtualbox on accord of me liking VMWare.
[03:11] <xtknight> vocx, not qemu
[03:11] <Fryguy--> twistedbeatfreek: what doesn't work
[03:11] <LeChacal> ok thank you everone ill try virtualbox
[03:11] <dabbill> basicly wnat i am lookin for is to see the backs of the desktops that are on the back of the cube.
[03:11] <Dr_willis__> twistedbeatfreek,  you need to use the ccsm tool, general tab. to enable 4 desktops.. for starters
[03:11] <triton> vocx can I pm
[03:11] <triton> u
[03:12] <Stormx2> Hey. How can I search files in a directory for a specific string?
[03:12] <Fryguy--> Stormx2: use grep
[03:12] <Stormx2> K.
[03:12] <twistedbeatfreek> i have no multiple screens and desktop cube not working, i think compiz fusion is not working or something im new so im not sure
[03:12] <vocx> triton, you can try but I cannot respond, so please go to #vocx
[03:12] <Fryguy--> twistedbeatfreek: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:12] <Azures> hi :)
[03:12] <Yowshi> yes installing is MUCH easier on the normal live cd :)
[03:12] <dabbill> Twistedbeatfreek make sure you have 4 desktops.
[03:13] <xtknight> yea you can configure workspaces in the bottom right of your screen, left of trashcan by default
[03:13] <vocx> Virtualbox is small and yet it works. Unlike earlier versions of VMWare which were 100 MB monsters
[03:13] <Azures> im a linux noob -_-
[03:13] <xtknight> yea i like vmware's 64bit support tho
[03:13] <xtknight> although 32bit is certainly adequate for what i do anyways
[03:13] <Azures> can someone point me to some good linux games ^^
[03:13] <L7> I appreciate a response.
[03:13] <PmDematagoda> hey, how do you actually run a VM on VMPlayer?
[03:13] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, yea you can do that
[03:14] <xtknight> or you can run it from withi nserver, but player is like a kiosk and less bulky
[03:14] <Fryguy--> Azures: steam, counterstrike, quake3, quake 4, doom, world of warcraft, uh.. i dunno
[03:14] <L7> PmDematagoda, Use VMWare Server > Player.
[03:14] <PmDematagoda> I cant seem to make a new VM
[03:14] <dyrne> Azures: tremulous, wesnoth, quake wars (not free), padman, enemy territory
[03:14] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, Server is uesd to make VM
[03:14] <tux97> hi
[03:14] <Azures> im more a never winter night person games like those
[03:14] <xtknight> L7, virtualbox can be a little faster than vmware in some caes
[03:14] <PmDematagoda> thanks xtknight
[03:14] <PmDematagoda> Ill try that out
[03:14] <xtknight> L7, but i still use vmware everyday
[03:15] <PmDematagoda> but does a VM made with VB work with VMWare?
[03:15] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, there are also VM appliances pre-made that you can d/l from Ubuntu
[03:15] <vocx> The truth is VMWare is for corporate users, while virtualbox remains small, for everyday home user.
[03:15] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, no
[03:15] <bzlbb> dyrne: in the command line setup it was ath0 and in lscpi it says atheros ar-5121
[03:15] <dyrne> Azures: wesnoth is like the old heros of might and magic games but there arent alot of open polished rpgs
[03:15] <macabro22> Hello
[03:15] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, however you can transfer a physical OS to a vm with P2V (physical 2 virtual).  it's just not recommended at all.
[03:15] <PmDematagoda> ok, thanks again xtknight
[03:15] <PmDematagoda> but what premade VMs are you talking about?
[03:15] <xtknight> vm appliances for vmware are available from VMware's site or ubuntu
[03:15] <macabro22> I have a problem with my microphone which supposedly is fixed in the hardy ALSA package
[03:15] <xtknight> they are so you don't have to create a VM yourself.
[03:16] <dyrne> bzlbb: you using wep or wpa?
[03:16] <xtknight> or go thru the installation process.  it's a premade image.
[03:16] <xtknight> they hand you the premade image and the root password
[03:16] <macabro22> Is there a way I can grab it from somewhere?
[03:16] <bzlbb> dyrne: wpa2
[03:16] <PmDematagoda> are there any packages on the repos?
[03:16] <ren8tuser> macabro22--> for hardy visit #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Ashfire908> i installed ubuntu on a computer and i installed grub on a flash drive (the install is posibly/probaly tempoary) and when i finally got the computer to boot the flash drive, i got a black screen with a blinking underline cursor (a few lines down from the top of the screen).
[03:16] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, for what ?
[03:16] <mEck0> Hi! is it possible to write a bash-script that if I use my laptop with an external monitor (as dual-monitors), the system should set the wallpaper to X. But if the system didn't detects the external monitor, i.e. when I'm not connected to it, set the wallpaper to Y? Because my laptops monitor and the TFT doesn't have the same size or resolution, so it's hard to use an usual wallpaper for dual-monitors which looks good...
[03:16] <xtknight> macabro22, hmm.  you will probably have to recompile alsa and i think update the kernel.
[03:16] <peepsalot> I tried sahring a folder over NFS, but I can't figure out how to access it over the network with nautilus
[03:17] <xtknight> macabro22, i did this once to get sound support but i cant really remember what i did
[03:17] <Fryguy--> peepsalot: nfs://address/mount
[03:17] <peepsalot> am I supposed to be able to give a location to nautilus such as nfs://hostname/path
[03:17] <peepsalot> hmm
[03:17] <dyrne> bzlbb: ugh.. well this is the generic way but this is for wep or unencrypted sorry not alot of exp with wpa http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60372/
[03:17] <peepsalot> it's not working for me, maybe I set up the share incorrectly
[03:17] <Fryguy--> peepsalot: or just add it to fstab
[03:18] <peepsalot> i hate editing fstab
[03:18] <ren8tuser> mEck0--> seems very possible, how would you detect the external monitor?
[03:18] <Yowshi> and how exactly is pidgin better then xchat for irc anyway?
[03:18] <Fryguy--> Yowshi: it isn't
[03:18] <Starnestommy> Yowshi: it isn't for IRC, but it supports more protocols
[03:19] <bzlbb> dyrne: ok thanks ill try it
[03:19] <Dr_willis__> xchat is an irc client.. pidgin is a IM client that can also do IRC... :) its lacking some irc featutres that are in xchat.
[03:19] <Ashfire908> if pidgin/libpurple is good at irc, shoot me.
[03:19] <xtknight> mEck0, you should probably use "xrandr -q" to query the current resolution.  then use an IF statement, e.g. if grep blah = 1440x900(laptop sample res) THEN gnome-background-program x.  IF grep blah = 1680x1050 THEN gnome-background-program y
[03:19] <unop> mEck0, if you are asking if it is possible, yes, if you are asking for how it might be done, then it gets tricky, i'm not sure how it might be done
[03:19] <potato> wow i dident know piden does irc
[03:19] <Yowshi> yeah just bwhat we need Starnestommy more useless IM's i was happier when it was just the big 4 now we got a new one every other week
[03:19] <xtknight> mEck0, i dont know the exact wallpaper app though. actually you probably set wallpaper thru a gconf-editor command.
[03:19] <potato> i use xchat right nowe
[03:20] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, were you trying to PM me
[03:20] <mEck0> xtknight
[03:20] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, for some reason i think it wasn't getting through
[03:20] <xtknight> someone was PMing me
[03:20] <mEck0> ren8tuser, isn't it possible with xrandr in some way? I think that the LVDS there is an external monitor?
[03:21] <xtknight> gnome itself does not support multiple backgrounds among diff devices
[03:21] <mEck0> because I use it in my dual-monitor script (xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024 --left-of LVDS)
[03:21] <xtknight> kde does, but only simultaneously i believe
[03:21] <ren8tuser> mEck0--> i dont really know how to detect the secondary display, maybe in xwdinfo ?
[03:22] <f0rmat> hello again
[03:22] <mEck0> ren8tuser, ok, will check how I can do that
[03:22] <xtknight> mEck0, "xrandr -q|grep current " will give you current res
[03:22] <f0rmat> it is still continuously disableing my access to the nautilus file manager
[03:22] <f0rmat> :(
[03:22] <CokeNCode> thanks for all the help guys, back to server 2003 I go ...
[03:22] <f0rmat> even after reinstallation
[03:22] <ka2> 16:20
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[03:22] <ka2> (16:22:34) ka2: What is the best desktop enviroment
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[03:22] <ka2> oops sorry
[03:22] <mEck0> xtknight, thx
[03:22] <ka2> !paste | kde
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[03:22] <ka2> !paste | ka2
[03:23] <xtknight> mEck0, i'll see if i can help you get it started or at least find the background key in gconf
[03:23] <xtknight> mEck0, i don't really know bash that well though
[03:23] <Ashfire908> i installed ubuntu on a computer and i installed grub on a flash drive (the install is posibly/probaly tempoary) and when i finally got the computer to boot the flash drive, i got a black screen with a blinking underline cursor (a few lines down from the top of the screen).
[03:24] <lancerocke> I got a BUNCH of error installing XChat 2.8.4, but I'm on it now and it seems to be working. I mean on Linux if the app is working, it's working? so.... I dont have to worry about it messing up or something?
[03:24] <mEck0> so, what I want is to use an "usual" wallpaper when not using dualmonitor with TFT, and when doing it, I want to use a wallpaper which looks good on dualmonitors (even if they use different resolutions, so an easy wallpaper with the "tiled" setting, maybe something that looks like a grid)
[03:24] <CShadowRun> where does synaptic put installed stuff?
[03:24] <mEck0> xtknight, thx for helping :)
[03:24] <Dr_willis__> CShadowRun,  if you mean the downloaded .deb file - its /var/cache/apt/
[03:24] <jrib> !fhs > CShadowRun (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:25] <jrib> CShadowRun: if you mean where it installs things to, it's several places (see ubotu).  But why?
[03:25] <CShadowRun> no i mean the actual finished installation
[03:25] <unop> CShadowRun, i'm not being funny but  -- where the stuff is supposed to go
[03:25] <CShadowRun> setting up synergy, need to start it from terminal
[03:25] <CShadowRun> lol
[03:26] <CShadowRun> and need to create a config file for it too :P
[03:26] <Dr_willis__> CShadowRun,  synergy is fun
[03:26] <unop> CShadowRun, each package puts files on the filesystem differently -- how or where those files are placed is upto the package maintainer or autor of the software
[03:26] <Dr_willis__> CShadowRun,  read its man pages synergyc and synergys
[03:26] <CShadowRun> yea i get ya
[03:26] <CShadowRun> only problem is they don't seem to say either lol
[03:26] <xtknight> mEck0, well so basically, you will only have one connected at a time right?
[03:26] <ren8tuser> mEck0--> do you have the dual monitor on now? curius as to what will  xdpyinfo shows compared to just single monitor
[03:27] <xtknight> CURRENTXRES=`xrandr -q -s 0|grep current|cut -d "," -f 2-2|cut -d " " -f 3-3`
[03:27] <xtknight> CURRENTYRES=`xrandr -q -s 0|grep current|cut -d "," -f 2-2|cut -d " " -f 5-5`
[03:27] <xtknight> messy but it gets the job done.  CURRENTXRES x CURRENTYRES is your current resolution
[03:27] <ren8tuser> mEck0--> can you paste in pastebin those two? just for curiosity sake...
[03:28] <ernieb> anyone have any experience setting up ubuntu server on  dell 2450 with either  perc2 or megtrends scsi card
[03:28] <fred_Barreto> o
[03:28] <Ashfire908> when i try to load/boot grub from my flash drive, all i get is a blank screen with a blinking underline cursor.
[03:29] <ren8tuser> Ashfire908--> can you try removing hiddenmenu, quiet and splash, and see if you get anything displayed?
[03:29] <ren8tuser> from menu.lst off course
[03:29] <unop> Ashfire908, why dont you install grub onto the hdd?
[03:30] <zezu> does ubuntu group software like fedora, ie; apt-get could install most commonly used dev. software in one command ?
[03:30] <Ashfire908> unop: it's a temp installation.
[03:30] <computer13137> Hey, how do I fix a "C compiler cannot create executables" error?
[03:30] <Fryguy--> zezu: build-essential will get you close probably
[03:30] <Starnestommy> computer13137: install build-essential
[03:30] <Dr_willis__> computer13137,  You did install the C compiler?
[03:30] <jrib> computer13137: what are you trying to compile?
[03:30] <computer13137> apt-get install build-essential?
[03:30] <zezu> Fryguy--: thanks
[03:31] <ernieb> using 6.6-2 which is supposed to decect perc2
[03:31] <Ashfire908> ren8tuser: one sec let me boot a livecd.
[03:31] <unop> zezu, whats the equivalent fedora command?
[03:31] <Dr_willis__> zezu,  ubuntu uses meta-packages for some things..
[03:31] <Yowshi> rythmbox isnt able to play mp3's out of the box?
[03:31] <unop> !mp3
[03:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:31] <xcd> after installing the linux realtime kernel on gutsy, when i reboot i can't seem to get into X. gdm is apparently started but by switching through the tty's it looks like a display hasn't started. is this a common problem?
[03:32] <computer13137> jrib: a remote desktop thing, doesn't matter, I can't compile anything. :P
[03:32] <Dr_willis__> zezu,  normally for the different desktop enviroments, or ones like 'build-essential' or 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[03:32] <owen1> tv-out in totem is disabled. any ideas?
[03:32] <qcjn> can anyone help me install a sata disk with a pci controller
[03:32] <computer13137> Starnestommy: Thanks, that might do it, it's installing now.
[03:32] <Yowshi> unop: i would normally use xmms but i decided i wanted some tunes to be playing while ubuntu updates for the first timw
[03:32] <f0rmat> !nautilus
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <f0rmat> !gnome
[03:32] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[03:32] <jrib> computer13137: you are sure it is not in the repositories?  What is it called?
[03:32] <unop> Yowshi, mp3 isn't a free format -- that's why there is no out-of-the-box support for it
[03:32] <computer13137> jrib: rdesktop
[03:32] <computer13137> it's from sourceforge
[03:32] <Dr_willis__> !find rdesktop
[03:32] <ubotu> Found: rdesktop, grdesktop
[03:33] <unop> Yowshi, you'll need to install codecs for it
[03:33] <computer13137> hah!
[03:33] <computer13137> Niice. :)
[03:33] <Dr_willis__> compu73rg33k,  its in the repos. :)
[03:33] <computer13137> You guys own. :P
[03:33] <computer13137> I needed both of those too
[03:33] <Yowshi> ah unop well normally i would go with an ogg format but i dont always manage to convert the files i get
[03:33] <computer13137> Sweet.
[03:33] <Yowshi> i have some ogg on hand fortunatly
[03:33] <computer13137> Doing now. :P
[03:33] <Yowshi> bbs need to reboot
[03:34] <computer13137> Do you usually have to reboot before something shows up in the program menus on the top bar?
[03:34] <ChrisULM> anyone have experience with no-ip?
[03:34] <Fryguy--> computer13137: you pretty much never have to reboot
[03:34] <owen1> how to watch movies on tv?
[03:34] <unop> computer13137, nope
[03:34] <computer13137> Chris: Sure.
[03:34] <computer13137> Chris: I use it...
[03:34] <computer13137> no-ip.com?
[03:34] <ChrisULM> computer13137, i have a server running at the house. its been running fine, but now no-ip doesnt redirect me to it.....
[03:34] <Dr_willis__> computer13137,   reboot? no.. Log out/back in.. on rare occasion..
[03:35] <Ashfire908> not booted the livecd yet, but i don't think it's an option like that causeing the issue
[03:35] <computer13137> ChrisULM: If you don't have a dynamic update client, but have a dynamic IP, your IP might have changed.
[03:35] <ernieb> scsi raid controllers ??
[03:35] <computer13137> ChrisULM: Simply login to your account and change the IP to your current one.
[03:35] <xtknight> mEck0, well these notes will get you started.  http://rafb.net/p/Hvmndf40.html
[03:35] <ChrisULM> computer13137, thats the thing, it is still the same ip
[03:35] <xtknight> you need to write the IF clause to determine which backgroudn to set tho
[03:35] <computer13137> ChrisULM: It's also possible that they've suspended your domain for inactivity.  If that's the case, simply login, and reactivate it.
[03:35] <ChrisULM> i checked it
[03:35] <computer13137> ChrisULM: It's probably been suspended for inactivity then.
[03:35] <computer13137> ChrisULM: Just go in and go to "Manage".
[03:35] <computer13137> And unsuspend it.
[03:35] <computer13137> ;)
[03:35] <unop> !info no-ip | ChrisULM
[03:35] <ubotu> chrisulm: no-ip (source: no-ip): A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-3build1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:36] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, type xtknight
[03:36] <PmDematagoda> xtknight
[03:36] <ChrisULM> computer13137,  how do you do that, I have two of them up and showing my current ips fine?
[03:36] <PmDematagoda> nothing
[03:36] <xtknight> PmDematagoda,  see now you should see dark red when i typed your name
[03:36] <PmDematagoda> Im using GNOME-Xchat
[03:36] <xtknight> no?
[03:36] <xtknight> me too
[03:36] <PmDematagoda> no
[03:36] <xcd> after installing the linux realtime kernel on gutsy, when i reboot i can't seem to get into X. gdm is apparently started but by switching through the tty's it looks like a display hasn't started. is this a common problem?
[03:36] <computer13137> I'm gonna reboot it just to be sure. :P
[03:36] <computer13137> It boots fast. :P
[03:36] <xtknight> xtknight should be highlighted in red when i say PmDematagoda
[03:36] <xtknight> maybe not
[03:37] <PmDematagoda> no
[03:37] <xtknight> highlighting is on by default
[03:37] <PmDematagoda> you are highlighted in the usual yellow
[03:37] <owen1> tv-out in totem is disabled. any ideas?
[03:37] <Dr_willis__> xcd,   You may need to reisntall your video card drivers
[03:37] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, hmm yellow?
[03:37] <ChrisULM> computer13137, I see no option to unsuspend......
[03:37] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, ok maybe im just using XChat not xchat-gnome
[03:37] <PmDematagoda> hmm
[03:37] <computer13137> ChrisULM what's it doing exactly?
[03:37] <ChrisULM> latorrentbox.no-ip.org
[03:37] <computer13137> ChrisULM: Is it redirecting to like a "domain registrar placeholder" or is it just going nowhere?
[03:38] <unop> xcd, try this command at a console -- sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:38] <xcd> dr_willis__: yeah. i mean oddly i didn't think to try that. i actually haven't tried anything. i just kind of don't understand why switching to realtime would mess something up in the first place ;)
[03:38] <ChrisULM> i can ping it but i cant get to it
[03:38] <computer13137> Resolves here to 209.91.23.118
[03:38] <computer13137> It times out for me.
[03:38] <tux97> hi nanobug
[03:38] <ChrisULM> computer13137, thats my ip
[03:38] <computer13137> If you just try to use the IP to get in, can you? :P
[03:38] <TheViLliN> do i have a compiler or library problem if i get an error like "uptime.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" after typing make to try compile a program?????????? a
[03:38] <PmDematagoda> xtknight
[03:39] <ChrisULM> computer13137, hmm no
[03:39] <ChrisULM> apache then?
[03:39] <computer13137> Then it's on your end.
[03:39] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: what are you compiling
[03:39] <computer13137> Because it resolves fine here.
[03:39] <computer13137> :P
[03:39] <user10> hi
[03:39] <computer13137> ChrisULM: If that's what you can't access - then yes. :P
[03:39] <computer13137> Try going on the server and using 127.0.0.1
[03:39] <ChrisULM> its coming up for you?
[03:39] <computer13137> To confirm that it's running.
[03:39] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  /procps-3.2.7
[03:39] <owen1> tv-out in totem is disabled. any ideas?
[03:39] <ChrisULM> running on server fine
[03:39] <computer13137> I get a white page
[03:39] <computer13137> And it says "Done"
[03:39] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: why
[03:39] <ChrisULM> supposed to bring up my login page
[03:40] <computer13137> And it does locally?
[03:40] <TheViLliN> fryguy :why not ???  just trying stuff
[03:40] <ChrisULM> yes
[03:40] <computer13137> But not via that IP? :P
[03:40] <ChrisULM> nope
[03:40] <computer13137> Are you sure it "lets you login over the Internet"?
[03:40] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: there's little to no reason to be compiling applications from source
[03:40] <computer13137> Did it ever work before?
[03:40] <xtknight> PmDematagoda,
[03:40] <TheViLliN> lol,   really
[03:40] <ChrisULM> it lets me login over the network, a week ago it let me log in over the internet
[03:40] <mEck0> xtknight, no, sometimes (when at school for instance, I don't have the laptop connected to a TFT, but when I come home, I just place it in my docking station to which I have an external TFT connected.
[03:40] <computer13137> :S
[03:40] <PmDematagoda> it works now
[03:40] <bullgard4> [GNOME] How to determine the filename of the dialog that appears when I click System > Quit... ?
[03:40] <xtknight> mEck0, ok did you see my notes link i posted above
[03:41] <whalesalad> not safe for work: http://exgirl.bplaced.net/?id=65502198
[03:41] <Dr_willis__> xcd,  The vidoe card drivers are installed on a per-kernel basis i thought.  which can  cause issues. :)
[03:41] <mEck0> ren8tuser, yeah, I'm connected to it now
[03:41] <ChrisULM> similar to this peytontorrentbox.no-ip.org
[03:41] <owen1> Starnestommy: thanks for helping me yesturday, all is working.
[03:41] <PmDematagoda> did you try and send me a pm xtknight?
[03:41] <mEck0> xtknight, yeah
[03:41] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, is my name highlit
[03:41] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  what if im trying to become a programmer
[03:41] <xcd> Dr_willis__, yeah i'll try that.
[03:41] <ChrisULM> and i set that one up the same way
[03:41] <xtknight> highlit .. highlighted
[03:41] <PmDematagoda> yeah xtknight
[03:41] <xtknight> cool
[03:41] <PmDematagoda> its in red
[03:41] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: to more accurately answer your question, you are probably missing some libraries
[03:41] <xtknight> well that's how we do business here
[03:41] <PmDematagoda> ok
[03:41] <PmDematagoda> so we can get a unique highlight?
[03:41] <owen1> Starnestommy: one thing - is there a way to run more than 1 app?-
[03:42] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, everytime we converse we must repeat the others' name
[03:42] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: so then write code and compile that.  "becomming a programmer" doesn't entail finding other peoples code and typing ./configure;make;make install
[03:42] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, so like this
[03:42] <xtknight> if you want it to be easy to read...
[03:42] <qcjn> ubotu: wil the no-ip work for no-ip.org?
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> ah
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> I get it
[03:42] <Starnestommy> owen1: more than one of what kind of app?
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> so if I say:-
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> xtknight hello
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> do you get it highlighted?
[03:42] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, yes
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> kool
[03:42] <TheViLliN> fryguy:   i was kinda thinking that.   i checking the add/remove section but I don't see anything under programming.  Is there separate library's
[03:42] <owen1> Starnestommy: the flight simulator and also firefox (as example)
[03:42] <PmDematagoda> thanks xtknight
[03:43] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: yes
[03:43] <talcite> guys, are there any issues with using aptitude?
[03:43] <PmDematagoda> you really helped me out:)
[03:43] <talcite> like instability etc?
[03:43] <Starnestommy> owen1: I think it can be done
[03:43] <TheViLliN> fryguy:   it is a good place to start though
[03:43] <ChrisULM> apache broke or something you think?
[03:43] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: not really
[03:43] <Fryguy--> talcite: no
[03:43] <TheViLliN> fryguy: no
[03:43] <PmDematagoda> xtknight thanks, incase it wasnt highlighted
[03:43] <Ashfire908> ren8tuser: i checked the menu.lst and hiddenmenu is not enabled (i'm not going to remove the quiet and splash, not wasteing my time rebooting to find it's not quiet or splash.)
[03:43] <yoshi> i cant login to my new installation because apparently there is no /home folder
[03:43] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, lol it was
[03:43] <PmDematagoda> lol
[03:43] <PmDematagoda> :)
[03:43] <xtknight> no worries
[03:43] <owen1> Starnestommy: and why the terminal is so tiny and in the upper left corner?
[03:43] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: how did you get a compiler ?
[03:44] <mEck0> ren8tuser, http://pastebin.com/d2cd7bd2a <--- xdpyinfo with TFT connected
[03:44] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  gcc is already installed
[03:44] <Starnestommy> owen1: try moving the cursor into the left corner
[03:44] <owen1> Starnestommy: how do i run 2 apps? i have only 1 terminal.
[03:44] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: yes, how did you install it
[03:44] <xtknight> you can run an app in the background by appending a &
[03:44] <xtknight> e.g., nautilus &
[03:44] <xtknight> and then firefox &
[03:44] <TheViLliN> fryguy: apt-get gcc
[03:44] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: install build-essential
[03:44] <TheViLliN> fryguy   installalso
[03:44] <demonspork> my Digital audio output has just stopped outputting sound
[03:45] <yoshi> currently in a failsafe terminal cause i cant even login to a failsafe desktop
[03:45] <TheViLliN> fryguy:   build-essential   ??
[03:45] <Tempo-> Does anybody here have any experiance wicd?
[03:45] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: yes
[03:45] <bobbo85> Hi all, can someone give me a quick run through of the user settings app?  I see that I have my own user and the root user, but then I have like 30 groups under "Manage groups" - none of which have any members... what gives?
[03:45] <xtknight> demonspork, did you toggle the Digital/Analog Switch in the sound mixer
[03:45] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  whats that adding??
[03:45] <Fryguy--> bobbo85: they are used by various system programs
[03:45] <xtknight> TheViLliN, build-essential installs libc development tools
[03:45] <xtknight> everything needed to compile a basic C program
[03:45] <xtknight> or C++ i suppose
[03:45] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: base set of libraries to gcc can actually do something useful, some library header files, gcc itself if it isn't already installed
[03:46] <TheViLliN> fryguy : xtknight:   like use stdio.h
[03:46] <xtknight> yea
[03:46] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: yes
[03:46] <xtknight> bobbo85, many of these are internally used by linux and you will never touch them
[03:46] <bobbo85> Fryguy, thanks I was hoping that was the answer... but I noticed that my windows partition has permissions that say it's in group "plugdev" which isn't in the list "group settings"
[03:46] <xtknight> bobbo85, and actually you shouldn't touch them unless you know what you're doing.  but feel free to create your own groups
[03:47] <mEck0> ren8tuser, http://pastebin.com/d4434580b <-- only laptop monitor
[03:47] <bobbo85> I added myself to "users" annnnnd that's it
[03:47] <Tempo-> does anybody have any experiance with wicd? I have installed wicd and it sees my wireless usb connector, and it 'says' i am connected to my network but the signal strength is -1%
[03:47] <owen1> Starnestommy: any idea how to run 2 apps simultaneously?
[03:47] <Fryguy--> bobbo85: that's fuse stuff
[03:47] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  awesome  thanks.   any good primer (txt's)
[03:47] <TheViLliN> 's
[03:47] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: www.google.com
[03:47] <Fryguy--> have fun
[03:47] <TheViLliN> fryguy: lol  thx
[03:47] <xtknight> !programming
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <xtknight> figures
[03:48] <Fryguy--> and if you are programming C, get "the c programming language" k&r
[03:48] <Starnestommy> owen1: put an '&' after a command to make it run in the background.  For example: 'foo &' then 'bar &' to run foo and bar
[03:48] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  how about how to use a compiler
[03:48] <TheViLliN> lo
[03:48] <TheViLliN> l
[03:48] <xtknight> for C, generic form   gcc -o outputName sourceFile1 sourceFile2 sourceFileN
[03:48] <Ashfire908> when i try to load/boot grub from my flash drive, all i get is a blank screen with a blinking underline cursor. hiddenmenu is not enabled.
[03:48] <yoshi> help plz some how after updating gutsy after a fresh install ubuntu can no longer see my /home folder so i cant login. everytime i try it shunts me back to the login screen
[03:48] <xtknight> for C++, generic form   g++ -o outputName sourceFile1 sourceFile2 sourceFileN
[03:49] <spartan7> have problem getting my sound card to work on my dv9000. anyone been through this before?
[03:49] <owen1> Starnestommy: app1 & (and than enter) ?
[03:49] <Fryguy--> yoshi: so remount a /home directory
[03:49] <Starnestommy> owen1: yes
[03:49] <bobbo85> Fryguy-- what's fuse stuff?  and what is plugdev?  I ask because I just mounted another old windows drive, but the permissions are only given to root right now - should I change them to plugdev or something?
[03:49] <Fryguy--> bobbo85: no
[03:49] <Fryguy--> don't change anything
[03:49] <xtknight> bobbo85, to let users have permissions on windows partitions, you must change the umask
[03:50] <TheViLliN> yy
[03:50] <Tempo-> I sound like a borken record... I need some help with wicd!
[03:50] <owen1> Starnestommy: and how do i stop it? kill?
[03:50] <Starnestommy> owen1: yes
[03:50] <Fryguy--> fuse is a userland file system that allows some extensions (notably ntfs-3g falls under this, also sshfs)
[03:50] <PmDematagoda> Tempo whats up with wicd?
[03:50] <xtknight> well you change umask to have write permissions altho im not sure about users specifically
[03:50] <bluefox83> is there a tutorial for burning .avi files to a video dvd?
[03:50] <spartan7> have a 82801H(ICH8) HD Audio Controller
[03:50] <PmDematagoda> Tempo- whats up with wicd?
[03:50] <bluefox83> like, some way for me to use ONE program to convert it to whatever it needs, then burn?
[03:51] <Tempo-> (thanks PmDematago!) i have wicd installed and working with my wireless card, and it tells me i am connected to the network...
[03:51] <owen1> Starnestommy: cool. so tell me if i understand. i am running ubuntu without gdm but with x?
[03:51] <xtknight> bluefox83, ya there are some dvd authoring programs in ubuntu
[03:51] <xtknight> cant remember names off the top my head
[03:51] <Tempo-> but the signal strength it -!%
[03:51] <bluefox83> !dvd
[03:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:51] <Fryguy--> bluefox83: handbrake
[03:51] <bluefox83> handbrake?
[03:51] <Tempo-> I have the static IP and DNS all filled in, but i cannot even connect to the wireless router!
[03:51] <xtknight> it's a dvd prog
[03:51] <Fryguy--> bluefox83: yes
[03:51] <Starnestommy> owen1: did you have a regular login screen?
[03:51] <owen1> Starnestommy: yes
[03:51] <yoshi> Fryguy i woulf if i knew how there appears to already be a /home folder just nothing inside it and i dont have fdisk -l to tell me if the partition of /home can be found by ubuntu
[03:52] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  is the essentials not remotely available ?
[03:52] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: ?
[03:52] <bluefox83> Fryguy--, from what i see from their website it's for osx O.o
[03:52] <bobbo85> xtknight, could you please tell me how to change the umask (and maybe what it does?  i'm guessing it's user mask)
[03:52] <spartan7> I have no sound on my HP dv9535us can anyone help with this problem?
[03:52] <xtknight> bobbo85, ok well firstof all, you want users to be able to write to NTFS drives, right?
[03:52] <Fryguy--> bluefox83: it's available for all major operating systems, and it's open source so you can just compile it if you have to
[03:52] <Starnestommy> owen1: then you're probably still using gdm, but it has a minimal X session running on top of it
[03:52] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  it wants my cd,   no big deal
[03:52] <Fryguy--> yoshi: well where is your home directory usually
[03:52] <xtknight> TheViLliN, disable your cdrom and use online repositories
[03:52] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: edit your sources list then
[03:52] <xtknight> that can be configured in software sources
[03:52] <bluefox83> Fryguy--, is it available in the repos?
[03:52] <yoshi> fryguy-- it would normally be in /home/yoshi wouldnt it?
[03:53] <Fryguy--> bluefox83: no idea
[03:53] <Fryguy--> yoshi: but where is it physically?
[03:53] <owen1> Starnestommy: is there a way to avoid running gnome and still play the game?
[03:53] <Fryguy--> is it on a separate partition or drive?
[03:53] <demonspork> xtknight, what switch?
[03:53] <xtknight> handbrake is not in the repos
[03:53] <yoshi> right now sda4 fryguy--
[03:53] <Fryguy--> yoshi: and is that mounted?
[03:53] <Starnestommy> owen1: gdm and gnome are two different things
[03:53] <TheViLliN> fryguy: xtknight:  where is the sources list
[03:53] <yoshi> fryguy-- i have no way of knowing i tried to fdisk -l but it didnt do anything
[03:53] <xtknight> !repositories | TheViLliN
[03:53] <ubotu> TheViLliN: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[03:53] <Fryguy--> TheViLliN: /etc/apt/sources.list or just use the gui (package manager)
[03:53] <Fryguy--> yoshi: what does df tell you?
[03:53] <xtknight> demonspork, run gnome-volume--control
[03:54] <yoshi> i will check
[03:54] <xtknight> demonspork, or right clck your sound speaker icon
[03:54] <xtknight> demonspork, and preferences
[03:54] <xtknight> sorry.  doubleclick it
[03:54] <bobbo85> xtknight yes, and I would probably like to be able to mount/unmount them too (as user Bob)
[03:54] <mEck0> Is it possible to use all the keys on a MS Natural Ergo 4000 keyboard? By default I can only use mute, play/pause, increase/decrease volume, calulator-button, web page, search, mail, buttons. The special buttons I can't use is on for "my favorites", 5 configurable buttons, and 4 buttons above the numpad ones ( =, (, ), <- )
[03:54] <TheViLliN> fryguy: xtknight:  thx
[03:54] <genuser> how do you keep ubuntu kernel up to date? where do i go?
[03:54] <TheViLliN> make
[03:54] <mEck0> and yeah, also one zoom slider and back- and forward special button
[03:54] <xtknight> mEck0, gnome-keybinding-properties
[03:54] <TheViLliN> bkah
[03:54] <sam_> Hi guys. I have a question about Ubuntu. When new version come out, say 8.04 comes out. To upgrade from 7.10 would I need to download the CD and reinstall, or can i upgrade using the update feature?
[03:54] <xtknight> mEck0, and you can press the key, gnome should identify them
[03:55] <Fryguy--> sam_: you can update in place
[03:55] <spartan7> have problem getting my sound card to work on my dv9000. anyone been through this before? or help me?
[03:55] <mEck0> xtknight, ok, *testing*
[03:55] <Fryguy--> !repeat | spartan7
[03:55] <ubotu> spartan7: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:55] <xtknight> bobbo85, add "user" or "users" or maybe "uid" to the entry in fstab to allow users to unmount/mount
[03:55] <owen1> Starnestommy: ok. what can i do to minimize the cpu and memory while running the game?
[03:55] <xtknight> i am not sure what it is for ntfs
[03:55] <xtknight> !ntfs | bobbo85
[03:55] <ubotu> bobbo85: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:55] <yoshi> fryguy-- ok df didnt see a /home anything but i tried sudo fdisk -l and it found sda4
[03:55] <xtknight> bobbo85, i think users should be able to write to ntfs drives automatically?  is that not the case for you?
[03:55] <Fryguy--> so what happens if you mount sda4
[03:56] <PmDematagoda> Tempo- hmm wireless is not really my thing Im afraid, Im ok with wired, but not with Wireless, sorry
[03:56] <Starnestommy> owen1: try to run as few other programs as possible.
[03:56] <mdeee> does anyone know if theres a link to download adobe flash version 9.0 r48
[03:56] <spartan7> sorry, new to IRC as well
[03:56] <Tempo-> No problem. At least you tried. thx
[03:56] <mEck0> xtknight, it just identify some of them
[03:56] <xtknight> mdeee, do you need that exact version?  otherwise i believe r115 is in the repositories
[03:56] <yoshi> fryguy-- i doubt it would solve my problems since it wouldnt be mounted when i logout of this session and into a proper gnome session would it?
[03:56] <mdeee> current version is too buggy
[03:56] <PmDematagoda> Tempo- dont lose hope, did you try and other sources of information or help?
[03:56] <Fryguy--> yoshi: it will
[03:56] <mdeee> r48 is supposed to be better
[03:56] <owen1> Starnestommy: ok. thank a lot.
[03:57] <sam_> wow ubuntu is pretty sweet
[03:57] <PmDematagoda> *any
[03:57] <xtknight> mEck0, oh.  umm im not sure how to get the others to work, but it is very likely with the X server somehow.  you might need to configure the X server differently
[03:57] <sam_> tbh
[03:57] <Fryguy--> yoshi: you probably need to edit your fstab
[03:57] <bobbo85> xtknight I just tried writing and deleting a new text file in nautilus as a user, it worked
[03:57] <xtknight> mEck0, there should be guides about this on google if that helps anyway.  like extra keyboard keys gnome
[03:57] <yoshi> fryguy-- ok i will try mount /dev/sda4 /home/yoshi right?
[03:57] <sam_> except for the fact that i had to get my old WMP11 v2.7 PCI wireless card out of my old rig to get a connection
[03:57] <Fryguy--> yoshi: just mount /dev/sda4
[03:57] <Fryguy--> nothing else
[03:57] <mEck0> xtknight, okay, thx, *googling*
[03:57] <xtknight> bobbo85, so you would simply like to add the ability for a user to mount/unmount ntfs drives
[03:57] <xb3rt> does anyone here successfuly run SL on linux?
[03:57] <yoshi> fryguy-- ok
[03:57] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: sl?
[03:57] <xtknight> xb3rt, what's SL
[03:57] <xb3rt> SecondLIfe
[03:57] <xtknight> oh dunno
[03:57] <Fryguy--> i'm sure people have
[03:58] <ritalin> gawd i hope not
[03:58] <Fryguy--> and i'm sure if you type "ubuntu secondlife" into google you'll get a lot of meaningful results
[03:58] <high-bass> Hey guys i tried to install the newest amsn so i get it of their website compiled and everything ... and it works but inorder to log in it requires TLS OpenSSl so i download tls newest one.. but when i do ./configure i get the following error : loading cache ./config.cache
[03:58] <high-bass> configure: error: /usr/local/ssl is not a valid directory
[03:58] <ritalin> as if linux users needed more escapes from reality
[03:58] <Tempo-> Pmdematago: I have been googling and ask.coming the low signal strength problem for a while... it seems a lot of people have the same problem.
[03:58] <xtknight> high-bass, try "mkdir -p /usr/local/ssl" i suppose ?
[03:58] <xb3rt> ritalin: whats reality? :-)
[03:58] <Ashfire908> when i try to load/boot grub from my flash drive, all i get is a blank screen with a blinking underline cursor. hiddenmenu is not enabled.
[03:58] <Yowshi> what do you know it wokred thank very much Fryguy--
[03:58] <Fryguy--> high-bass: why are you compiling things that are in the repository
[03:58] <Yowshi> i would love to know why it failed in the first place
[03:58] <Fryguy--> Yowshi: fix your fstab so it mounts on boot, you probably have 'noauto' in there or something
[03:58] <bobbo85> xtknight yes you got it
[03:59] <computer13137> Question?
[03:59] <high-bass> Fryguy--, i installed tlstcl form the repository but it doesnt seem to work.. amsn doesnt detect it!!!
[03:59] <blah569> I'm installing Ubuntu via Wubi right now, and I'm wondering, what is the base GB Ubuntu requires to run?
[03:59] <xtknight> bobbo85, add "users" to the entry for the NTFS drive in fstab
[03:59] <computer13137> If I use Gnome through X11 forwarding...is there any way I can leave the session running and connect to it later - like Remote Desktop in Windows?
[03:59] <Fryguy--> high-bass: if you are compiling stuff you need to install the development libraries, not the main packages
[03:59] <xtknight> bobbo85, this is added under the options column for that fstab entry.
[03:59] <blah569> I'm not sure if my message was sent, so here it is again:  I'm installing Ubuntu via Wubi right now, and I'm wondering, what is the base GB Ubuntu requires to run?
[03:59] <Fryguy--> computer13137: use xpra
[03:59] <Fryguy--> or freenx
[04:00] <Fryguy--> or xrdp
[04:00] <Fryguy--> or vnc
[04:00] <computer13137> freenx doesn't support Samba login.
[04:00] <computer13137> VNC is one user only.
[04:00] <Ashfire908> blah569: it got sent.
[04:00] <high-bass> Fryguy--: that is what i am installing the development libraries... but ./configure gives me the error i stated above
[04:00] <spartan7> have problem getting my sound card to work on my HP dv9000 laptop. anyone been through this before? or help me?
[04:00] <xtknight> high-bass, try "mkdir -p /usr/local/ssl" i suppose ?
[04:00] <Fryguy--> high-bass: the package you just listed wasn't the development lirbary
[04:00] <computer13137> What's xpra?
[04:00] <computer13137> It looks like a hosting service. :|
[04:00] <Fryguy--> xtknight: no
[04:00] <Fryguy--> computer13137: google is awesome
[04:00] <dyrne> blah569: you want a minimum of 2G for / but really probably at least 3 to be comfortable. that is with everything you can get it to under a gig also
[04:00] <computer13137> I googled it it's a hosting service. :P
[04:00] <Fryguy--> computer13137: it's also an application
[04:00] <blah569> Ah, okay.  So 10 is plentyfull?
[04:01] <dyrne> blah569: yeah
[04:01] <Yowshi> ok so does anyone have the url for the how to restore all the settings i lost?
[04:01] <demonspork> xtknight, it was working earlier today, but now it isn't, I have messed with those options, and it still isn't outputting sound, and now the surround sound system isn't even recognizing the digital signal, whereas a minute ago it still recognized the signal but there was no sound
[04:01] <high-bass> ok so i need openssl then!
[04:01] <blah569> Thanks.  I would have allocated more, but I just want to make sure I want to keep it. :)
[04:01] <xtknight> demonspork, do you see the Switches tab on the mixer
[04:01] <bluefox83> Fryguy--, handbrake sucks really bad, it's all cli
[04:01] <Yowshi> or the time to walk me through it
[04:01] <Yowshi> also how to add sdb to my fstab
[04:02] <blah569> I've used Ubuntu countless times, but I've never installed it.  But, how exactly does Wubi work?  Do you like boot into Windows, and then run Ubuntu like an applications, Windows shuts down, and then Ubuntu runs?  Or, does it have like a grub boot loader?
[04:02] <computer13137> FRY!  Why didn't you suggest this earlier, it looks like 99% of what I was asking for from the start!
[04:02] <computer13137> Thank you!  If it works... :P
[04:02] <LOGAN> hello, what is the official site for Umenu?
[04:02] <computer13137> !find xpra
[04:02] <ubotu> No packages matching 'xpra' could be found
[04:02] <bobbo85> xtknight ok, I will run sudo gedit /etc/fstab and add "users" under the column for the hdb1 entry.  Out of curiosity, I just got the pysdm storage devices manager... it sees all of my partitions, but if i click on any of them it says they haven't been configured yet... if i click configure, will that break anything or just read the current settings?
[04:02] <computer13137> Hmm, no repo package?
[04:03] <demonspork> xtknight, no
[04:03] <xtknight> bobbo85, well by doing this i am able to unmount a mounted NTFS drive thru user.  but not mount thru user.
[04:03] <Yowshi>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY dragons1
[04:03] <xtknight> hmmm
[04:03] <Yowshi> ooops
[04:03] <xtknight> Yowshi, you just gave away your password.  change
[04:03] <Yowshi> yes i know
[04:03] <Starnestommy> Yowshi: /msg nickserv help set password
[04:03] <xtknight> better safe than sorry ;)
[04:03] <MinusSeven> I'm going to install the 8.04 beta
[04:04] <PmDematagoda> MinusSeven hood job
[04:04] <PmDematagoda> MinusSeven good job
[04:04] <xtknight> bobbo85, i am not sure of pysdm but ill check it out in a second
[04:04] <LOGAN> i find different projects in google of umenu, some seem copyright 2001-2004. anyone know the official page? of Umenu?
[04:04] <PmDematagoda> MinusSeven but keep in mind that there are some caveats
[04:04] <blah569> Does anyone have an answer to my question, or would I be best off asking in a Wubi IRC channel?
[04:04] <xtknight> demonspork, ok.  go to edit preferences in the mixer
[04:04] <xb3rt> why would someone want to install linux in a refrigerator?
[04:04] <PmDematagoda> MinusSeven as mentioned in the release page
[04:04] <PmDematagoda> x3brt Linux is really portable
[04:04] <MinusSeven> ok
[04:05] <demonspork> xtknight, ok
[04:05] <PmDematagoda> x3rt Linux is really portable
[04:05] <spartan7> have problem getting my sound card to work on my P dv9000. can anyone help?
[04:05] <pulpfiction> hello
[04:05] <xtknight> demonspork, by A/D switcher is named Analog/Digital Output Jack
[04:05] <PmDematagoda> x3rt you can install it on almost anything
[04:05] <xtknight> demonspork, you may need to enable this switch's visibility
[04:05] <demonspork> !hello | pulpfiction
[04:05] <ubotu> pulpfiction: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:05] <pulpfiction> sorry the screenshot being in portuguese, but i suppose my question can still be answered
[04:05] <pulpfiction> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1360/capturadateland2.png
[04:05] <xtknight> demonspork, enabling it in the preferences enables it's visibility.  then it will show in the Switches tab and here is where you may toggle A/D
[04:05] <xtknight> its*
[04:05] <xb3rt> ive got a sony vaio keyboard layout, which has two hotkey buttons above the regular keyboard, is their somewhere I can go to configure those keys
[04:05] <Yowshi> hmmmm hwo come envy is no longer in the repo's
[04:06] <xtknight> Yowshi, the restricted manager deprecates it
[04:06] <pulpfiction> if the ubuntu install is gonna format particions #2 and #6, i suppose my #6 partition is totally safe?
[04:06] <tux97> i was wondering how do u install a new hd in ubuntu?
[04:06] <TheViLliN> fryguy:  what other standard library's are there???
[04:06] <bobbo85> xtknight, the new drive sdb1 is not listed in fstab
[04:06] <xtknight> Yowshi, system -> administration-> restricted drivers
[04:06] <demonspork> xtknight, I don't see any single option that includes both analog and digital or A/D
[04:06] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction there are only three partitions
[04:06] <Yowshi> xtknight: i tried that when i first installed it it never worked and worse it normally fragged my display altogether
[04:06] <xtknight> demonspork, what audio card
[04:06] <PmDematagoda> what partition are you talking about?
[04:06] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction what partition are you talking about?
[04:06] <Yowshi> xtknight: envy however just worked
[04:06] <demonspork> xtknight, intel 1988 I think
[04:07] <xtknight> Yowshi, hmm works for me.  (!worksforme :) )  but obviously you'd have to provide some logs
[04:07] <pulpfiction> i don't know.. all i know is i have a ntfs partition
[04:07] <pulpfiction> which i don't want to lose any data
[04:07] <demonspork> xtknight, where do I find out?
[04:07] <pulpfiction> and i'm trying to install ubuntu.. i went with the assisted - use the most free space available option
[04:07] <spartan7> Have no sound with gusty can someone please help?
[04:07] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction instruct the Ubuntu installer partitioner on manual
[04:07] <xtknight> demonspork, type "sudo lshw -class sound"
[04:07] <Tempo-> In wicd my signal strength for wi-fi is -1%. at the wicd forums it there was something about the contents of an iwconfig and iwlist scan. i ran those in terminal. what would those show me? Help please
[04:07] <FastZ> so i'm taking a linux class in college... the professor asked us to tell a little about our computing history, like what OSes have we experience with, etc.
[04:07] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction I prefer manual
[04:08] <pulpfiction> and now ubuntu is saying it will format #2 and #6
[04:08] <FastZ> I'm the only one who uses Linux on a daily basis
[04:08] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction its more reliable
[04:08] <FastZ> :(
[04:08] <robc4> FastZ, same here
[04:08] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction yes pulpfiction, use manual
[04:08] <xtknight> bobbo85, pysdm looks dangerous
[04:08] <xb3rt> FastZ: robc4: same here
[04:08] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction Ill help you
[04:08] <pulpfiction> i went with assisted because i didn't know how much swap to use
[04:08] <FastZ> robc4: it's horrible
[04:08] <xtknight> bobbo85, it doesn't detect any of my mounted partitions
[04:08] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction how much ram do you have?
[04:08] <robc4> at least you can show them
[04:08] <FastZ> this is the second day of class and i've already pissed some windows fanboys off
[04:08] <robc4> I showed Ubuntu to a class today
[04:08] <pulpfiction> i have 512mb of ram
[04:08] <pulpfiction> should i create 1024mb of swap?
[04:08] <blah569> Does anyone know of a wubi IRC channel, or would it be okay to ask the question in this channel?
[04:08] <Sindacious> Is there a command to close non-responding programs?
[04:08] <Yowshi> wow it didnt frag my display
[04:09] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction give it about a gig of swap
[04:09] <Yowshi> i am getting it easy all over tonight
[04:09] <pulpfiction> ok, hold on hen
[04:09] <xtknight> Yowshi, hehe
[04:09] <Fryguy--> Sindacious: "kill"
[04:09] <pulpfiction> then*
[04:09] <demonspork> xtknight, MCP55 High Definition Audio by nVidia Corporation, driver HDA Intel
[04:09] <Yowshi> first the normal live cd works like a charm and now this
[04:09] <FastZ> Sindacious, you can also kill programs by right clicking them in the system monitor
[04:09] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction better to be safe than sorry
[04:09] <xtknight> demonspork, ok.  well at least that gives you something to go by.  but i'm really not sure how to solve your problem
[04:09] <Yowshi> and once again sdb and sdc auto mounted
[04:09] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction are you partitioning on manual?
[04:09] <demonspork> xtknight, I am just kinda bummed that it has been working for so long
[04:09] <pulpfiction> yes, i'll be doing manual
[04:09] <xtknight> demonspork, the problem is, sound drivers present their options to the Mixer in different ways.  I haev an audigy, not an HDA-Intel.  i do not know which options you have
[04:09] <pulpfiction> hold on
[04:09] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction ok
[04:09] <pulpfiction> btw, what's this export from windows feature? O_o
[04:10] <xtknight> demonspork, ya im not sure what happened.  could be numerous things.  sometimes rebooting into windows will invoke a different driver which may replace the linux driver's options somehow
[04:10] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction it exports the settings and files(not sure about files) from a Windows installation
[04:10] <pulpfiction> ok
[04:10] <blah569> How does Wubi handle the booting of Ubuntu?  Does it install likea grub boot loader?
[04:10] <Tempo-> T.T
[04:10] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction in my opinion its not essential
[04:10] <pulpfiction> yeah, i won't be using it
[04:11] <spartan7> today is not my night, is there another room that helps with sound specific problems?.
[04:11] <PmDematagoda> blah569 it creates a VM
[04:11] <pulpfiction> ok, i'm on manual.. i suppose i should create a ext3 and a swap on my free space, right?
[04:11] <xtknight> spartan7, #alsa somewhat
[04:11] <belkinhelp2> hello all
[04:11] <PmDematagoda> blah569 it's like a completly different OS
[04:11] <xb3rt> spartan7: #alsa
[04:11] <xtknight> spartan7, but if the questions are at all Ubuntu-specific they won't really like it
[04:11] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction yes
[04:11] <hexon> spartan 7: Have you tried ubuntuforums.org yet?
[04:11] <Sindacious> FastZ: I can't find the programs process on the list :/
[04:11] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction on the unpartitioned space
[04:11] <pulpfiction> the swap, should it be logical or primary?
[04:11] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: doesn't matter
[04:11] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction yeah
[04:12] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: probably logical
[04:12] <belkinhelp2> anyone here know if ubuntu has a standard hardware monitor for temperature?  If not, has anyone used this particular one i just happen to google...first hit?
[04:12] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction choose whatever you want
[04:12] <belkinhelp2> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=443
[04:12] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: lm-sensors
[04:12] <pulpfiction> oh, also, does the order matter? i mean, first i create the swap or first i create the ext3?
[04:12] <spartan7> yep, and tried couple dif things but nothing has worked
[04:12] <xtknight> is there a gnome plugin for lm-sensors
[04:12] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: use lm-sensors
[04:12] <xtknight> for ubuntu/repos
[04:12] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction not at all
[04:12] <ProbeDot> I was having some issues with a USB drive with permissions on the content located on it not quite letting me delete it,kept saying it was a Read Only FileSystem ?
[04:12] <CShadowRun> anyone use synergy?
[04:12] <belkinhelp2> lm sensors...is that standard
[04:12] <xtknight> lm sensors is standard for linux ya
[04:12] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: i think so
[04:12] <bobbo85> xtknight, can you explain a basic outline of how devices are setup in ubuntu?  I get the feeling that devices are discovered by either the bios or the OS itself, then show up as a file in /dev (example:  sda1)... to access the, you mount them - the mount directory is like a doorway to that device's contents.  Annnnd fstab, that i'm guessing is what linux uses to auto-mount your usual devices on startup.  Is this kind of ri
[04:12] <bobbo85> ght?  I ask because I tried getting rid of my floppy drive from "Computer" with no luck, so I deleted it from "/media" then deleted it from "/dev" then commented out its entry in fstab... and it's still there!  Of course when I try to delete it from "computer" it says i don't have permissions... but when I use sudo nautilus, the only thing in "computer" is "filesystem" ... and I can't get to "computer:///" in the terminal
[04:12] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction my partitions are a mess, yet all my Ubuntu systems work:)
[04:12] <Yowshi> belkinhelp it does have a standard monitor but findintg which is thne correct value took me some doing
[04:12] <FastZ> Sindacious, I sent you a private message
[04:12] <tarkus> can someone help me out here? big problem.. i cant decide whether to use a white or black terminal..
[04:12] <spartan7> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg549082.html
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction I dont think you can do that on Windows
[04:13] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: you run multiple ubuntu systems on one comp
[04:13] <xtknight> !info sensors-applet
[04:13] <ubotu> sensors-applet (source: sensors-applet): Display readings from hardware sensors in your Gnome panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.12+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 508 kB
[04:13] <spartan7> last one i tried
[04:13] <Fryguy--> bobbo85: it's in /dev so it will show up
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt yeah
[04:13] <jrib> tarkus: it's personal preference, try both for a while
[04:13] <Yowshi> ok that new transparent alt tab thing is just COOL
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt Hardy, Gutsy and Feisty
[04:13] <Sindacious> FastZ: Didn't get it :S
[04:13] <belkinhelp2> cool
[04:13] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: nice, but why?
[04:13] <pulpfiction> ok, now i'm creating the ext3
[04:13] <belkinhelp2> !info meaning of life
[04:13] <ubotu> Package meaning does not exist in gutsy
[04:13] <xb3rt> for fun
[04:13] <belkinhelp2> Damn
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt Im a collector
[04:13] <pulpfiction> mount point.. should i use "/'?
[04:13] <xtknight> bobbo85, drives in linux are often discovered by device drivers, generally not BIOS itself.  in rare cases the HD order can change.  BIOS options can control how the HD controller operates (SATA/PATA,etc).
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt well, in reality, I have no idea
[04:13] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: yes
[04:13] <tsukasa> okay i installed xenserver but accidentally told it not to replace my menu.lst... is there a way to get the prompt back to replace my menu.lst?
[04:13] <demonspork> going with the ever-trustworthy power cycle, brb
[04:13] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction yes
[04:13] <pulpfiction> ok
[04:13] <qwo_> bobbo85: remove the floppy driver from your kernel
[04:14] <mooseman089> does anybody know how to make ubuntu execute a command whenever somebody logins in over ssh
[04:14] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: got any dual booting tips for me, ive tried several times and failed
[04:14] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction there is no need to make another partition
[04:14] <pulpfiction> ok, all done, ty guys
[04:14] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt what are you trying to DB?
[04:14] <xtknight> bobbo85, the driver makes the drive appear in /dev as sdn for sata drive N  (and pata drive N now that libata presents PATA drives as SATA)
[04:14] <pulpfiction> no, i only created the swap and then the ext3
[04:14] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction good luck
[04:14] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction that should suffice
[04:14] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: i wanted windoze and ubuntu, but if i could triple boot that would be sweet too
[04:14] <FastZ> Sindacious: bugger... if you are using GNOME, then you can add an applet to your top or bottom panel that's called Force Quit... then you can use that to kill any programs that are froze
[04:14] <spartan7> just go back at it tomorrow, thanks guys goodnight all
[04:14] <pulpfiction> in the past i also created another /home partition, because i had 2 distros installed.. but i don't feel the need now
[04:15] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: up to you
[04:15] <xtknight> bobbo85, /dev/sda1 is partition 1 on /dev/sda.  and so on.  you usually mount partitions, and the mount is basically opening the door to the contents i guess you could say.  mount makes the raw data pass through a filesystem which presents the user with FILES not just raw bytes
[04:15] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt the easiest way of doing is by first installing Windows and then Ubuntu
[04:15] <FastZ> Sindacious: to add applets to your panel, just right click an open space in your panel and select Add To Panel...
[04:15] <Fryguy--> i have my /home on a separate machine and mount it remotely
[04:15] <tsukasa> okay i installed xenserver but accidentally told it not to replace my menu.lst... is there a way to get the prompt back to replace my menu.lst?
[04:15] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: wouldn't it kind of be the same either way?
[04:15] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt that makes it very easy, you dont need to do anything
[04:15] <pulpfiction> Fryguy--: does it lag?
[04:15] <xtknight> bobbo85, gnome uses hal to automuont drives to some extent.  it can be a bit confusing.  it is a little independent of fstab
[04:15] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: no
[04:15] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt no
[04:16] <belkinhelp2> where do i find this universe component?
[04:16] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt if you install Ubuntu and then WIndows the MBR of Ubuntu(GRUB) will be overwritten
[04:16] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: in the package manager you can enable them (they are checkboxes on the options
[04:16] <mooseman089> could i use bashrc to run a command when i login?
[04:16] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt you will then need to use something like SuperGRUB to install the MBR back
[04:16] <Fryguy--> mooseman089: you can, if bash is your shell
[04:16] <xtknight> tsukasa, reinstall xenserver.  sudo apt-get --reinstall install pkg-name
[04:16] <Fryguy--> mooseman089: probably want to use .bash_profile instead
[04:16] <xtknight> what's diff between bash profile and bash rc?
[04:16] <bobbo85> xtknight, yea when I tried to unmount the new drive it said something about "this drive was probably manually mounted in the terminal, it does not use HAL"
[04:17] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt just install Windows and then Ubuntu, it will make your life easier;)
[04:17] <Fryguy--> xtknight: .bash_profile runs only on login shells, .bashrc will run on any shell
[04:17] <xtknight> ah
[04:17] <demonspork> xtknight, you will love the fix for my sound problem :D
[04:17] <xtknight> Fryguy--, does gdm login constitute a "login shell" then?
[04:17] <Fryguy--> xtknight: it does, but it's not bash heh
[04:17] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: so if i wanted to triple boot, would i make three partitions, after i put windows on with the MBR first?
[04:17] <demonspork> xtknight, a reboot did the trick
[04:17] <xtknight> demonspork, oh lol
[04:18] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt yes
[04:18] <tsukasa> xtknight, that doesnt reprompt me
[04:18] <xtknight> shoulda just tried #windows
[04:18] <xtknight> ;)
[04:18] <mooseman089> fryguy thank you i think this is what i needed
[04:18] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: 4 partitions, but yah
[04:18] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt first Windows, and then Linux
[04:18] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: why 4
[04:18] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt that is pretty much the easiest way
[04:18] <xtknight> Fryguy--,  i mean is bash profile run after logging into gdm?
[04:18] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: linux 'needs' a separate swap partition
[04:18] <Fryguy--> xtknight: no
[04:18] <FastZ> one of the partitions is swap
[04:18] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: would both linux distros use the same swap
[04:18] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: they can, yes
[04:18] <xb3rt> Fryguy--: ok
[04:19] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt what are you planning on triple booting?
[04:19] <xtknight> bobbo85, hmm
[04:19] <demonspork> I like how the livecd uses any existing swap partitions during a live boot :)
[04:19] <xtknight> bobbo85, where did you see that?
[04:19] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: xp, ubuntu, and protech
[04:19] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt good enough
[04:19] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt but keep in mind
[04:19] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt there are distros such as Fedora
[04:19] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt which are greedy for the MBR
[04:20] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: i have fedora, along with a cd wallet full of others
[04:20] <Gary_inNYC> whoa, why is my system running 100% cpu after this recent sql update?
[04:20] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: and i do like fedora a lot
[04:20] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt install Ubuntu last
[04:20] <xtknight> bootloaders amongst linux distros aren't really standardized.  but i noticed opensuse yields quite well to other OSes that may lie on the MBR
[04:20] <Fryguy--> Gary_inNYC: what is taking up the cpu
[04:20] <hexon> How do I open up the url links through konversation IRC client?
[04:20] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt I like fedora as well
[04:20] <xtknight> they all use grub but sometimes they just wipe each other
[04:20] <pulpfiction> i'm used with yum, from centos/fedora
[04:21]  * Fryguy-- uses cli irc client so i couldn't tell you
[04:21] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: it was actually the first distro i had
[04:21] <pulpfiction> how's the package system on ubuntu?
[04:21] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt lol, mine was Ubuntu
[04:21] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: it's debian-based
[04:21] <xtknight> hexon, maybe try right click, or ask in #kubuntu
[04:21] <hexon> k
[04:21] <PmDematagoda> puplfiction its apt-get
[04:21] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction its apt-get
[04:21] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: i might try FreeBSD sometime, some people swear by it
[04:21] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: i'm running freebsd right now
[04:21] <pulpfiction> i see.. where can i check out the basics commands?
[04:21] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, by the way you can TAB-complete names by typing the beginning then pressing tab.  avoids spelling error and is quicker
[04:21] <bobbo85> xtknight, remember I did not see the new partition in the fstab file, so I did not add "users" to the options for it...  logged in as a user, I went to "computer" in places, then right clicked the "new volume" and hit "unmount" - I got an error message "Cannot unmount volume"  "The volume new volume' was probably mounted mannually on the command line.  details:  Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mou
[04:21] <bobbo85> nted by HAL"
[04:21] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt so will I, I need to try it out
[04:21] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: man apt-get
[04:21] <Krustydaclown20> will a journalling file system wear out a flash drive?
[04:21] <hexon> Well I use ubuntu, not kubuntu...should I download a different IRC client?
[04:21] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: I tried Gentoo for a day and thought about suicide :-)
[04:22] <xb3rt> lol
[04:22] <xtknight> PC-BSD was pretty impressive when i tried it
[04:22] <belkinhelp2> alright, I installed lm-sensors.  Where do i find this application now that it is installed?
[04:22] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt lol
[04:22] <xtknight> and that was like a year ago
[04:22] <javadan> Hello all
[04:22] <Gary_inNYC> according to my system monitor, there isn't anything bringing my processor to 100%, but the resource usage tells me it's at 100%
[04:22] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt Gentoo is unforgiving
[04:22] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: very
[04:22] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt but its the best thing t use in order to learn
[04:22] <qwo_> Krustydaclown20: U cant see why that would be so
[04:22] <Gary_inNYC> it's constantly going at 100%
[04:22] <warriorf1rgod> belkinhelp2: did you run sensors-detect yet?
[04:22] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: run 'sensors'
[04:22] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: that is true
[04:22] <arcticpenguin380> gentoo took 2 weeks to build gnome on my 450Mhz p1
[04:22] <arcticpenguin380> p2
[04:22] <ethan961> ouch
[04:22] <qwo_> arcticpenguin380: no way it took that long
[04:23] <xtknight> bobbo85, i see
[04:23] <PmDematagoda> lol
[04:23] <PmDematagoda> it can
[04:23] <arcticpenguin380> i meant 5 days
[04:23] <Gary_inNYC> all i did was install a recent auto-update for sql
[04:23] <PmDematagoda> lol
[04:23] <PmDematagoda> still
[04:23] <xtknight> bobbo85, yes.  things in "my computer" are mounted by hal
[04:23] <xtknight> bobbo85, it's a whole other thing
[04:23] <qwo_> yeah right with 32mb ram maybe
[04:23] <xb3rt> arcticpenguin380: thats awesome, i would keep it like that for bragging rights :-)
[04:23] <Gary_inNYC> whatever it is i think i oughtta shut down before my comp's toast
[04:23] <xb3rt> Start your computer to check your email monday and friday afternoon it finishes loading
[04:24] <arcticpenguin380> it has 64MB ram in it
[04:24] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt Fedora 9 is going to be cool
[04:24] <xtknight> bobbo85, so you will have to manually make an fstab and find the /dev/ node for your drive.  should be able to tell thru right click properties on the HAL drive icon in Computer
[04:24] <javadan> I'm trying to build a c app and #include <gnome.h> but the path is all wrong. I have the dev packages installed. Any ideas on this?
[04:24] <Fryguy--> one of the annoying things about quadcore :( i can have a few runaway processes taking up 100% on some cores before I notice :(
[04:24] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: isnt their a 10?
[04:24] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt no
[04:24] <Fryguy--> javadan: probably don't have the right dev packages installed
[04:24] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt the latest dev version is 9
[04:24] <qwo_> javadan: what do you mean the path is all wrong
[04:24] <xb3rt> PmDematagoda: ill have to check that out
[04:24] <Fryguy--> javadan: compiling code is outside the scope of this channnnel
[04:24] <PmDematagoda> xb3rt lemme give you a link
[04:25] <javadan> Fryguy- any idea what channel to use?
[04:25] <xtknight> javadan, #linux might be able to help but i dont know
[04:25] <Fryguy--> javadan: #gnome, #c, #linux, google, etc.
[04:25] <PmDematagoda> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/FeatureList
[04:25] <xtknight> #c i'm sure wil give you hell about that
[04:25] <xtknight> ;)
[04:25] <belkinhelp2> wow...that was completely user friendly!
[04:26] <warriorf1rgod> belkinhelp2: Whats that?
[04:26] <javadan> Ah, well, newbie dev on linux... I'm used to being ignorant :)
[04:26] <belkinhelp2> sensors-detect
[04:26] <kindofabuzz> i have java 5 and 6 installed.  how do i properly uninstall 5?
[04:26] <mamour_> don't tell him
[04:26] <warriorf1rgod> belkinhelp2: yeah.  You will probably have to modprobe the modules it suggested, or reboot to load them.
[04:26] <mamour_> it's a trick
[04:26] <Fryguy--> warriorf1rgod: sensors-detect takes care of that for you
[04:26] <warriorf1rgod> belkinhelp2: Once that is done you can just run sensors
[04:26] <mamour_> kindofabuzz is just a nigerian trying to acqu!r3 ema!l addr3ss35
[04:27] <kindofabuzz> mamour, what?
[04:27] <belkinhelp2> yeah, i have to reboot
[04:27] <Gary_inNYC> oh good, after a reboot, my processor isn't constant 100% - sighs relief
[04:27] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: no you don't
[04:27] <belkinhelp2> sensors is not working
[04:27] <xtknight> actually sensors-detect was reasonably friendly to me.  hopefully u werent being sarcastic
[04:27] <xtknight> lol
[04:27] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: there are approximately 0 circumstances that you have to reboot a linux system
[04:27] <PmDematagoda> kindofbuzz sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin
[04:27] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, you dont have to reboot to load the modules tho
[04:27] <PmDematagoda> same here
[04:27] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, e.g. mine listed it87 and coretemp.  sudo modprobe it87 && sudo modprobe coretemp
[04:27] <warriorf1rgod> Fryguy--: Interesting.  On mine, then modules don't load after a sensors-detect until I reboot or modprobe them.  Until they are loaded the first time sensors output doesn't display everything.
[04:28] <PmDematagoda> sensors-detect is really good
[04:28] <belkinhelp2> i wasnt being sarcastic....it was completely user friendly, and not in a HHGttG Marvin sorta way either.
[04:28] <pulpfiction> PmDematagoda and Fryguy--: is there a after install faq where i could check the common things to do, like install flash, java, etc?
[04:28] <p0k3r808> anyone know of a guide for total noobs to install and run a tv tuner?
[04:28] <kindofabuzz> thanks
[04:28] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: at the end of sensors detect, it listed some modules that you need to add, and offered to put them in /etc/modules, if you did that, then now just type modprobe 'modulename' for each of them (I thought it did them for you, i was apparently wrong)
[04:28] <xtknight> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | pulpfiction
[04:28] <ubotu> pulpfiction: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:28] <Fryguy--> pulpfiction: ubuntuguide
[04:28] <pulpfiction> PmDematagoda and Fryguy--: things like video codecs, etc
[04:28] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction Flash:- sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:28] <rahduke> can someone help me out, I lost access to my other desktop when i installed compiz-fusion
[04:28] <biotrox> how to install zimbra on gutsy?
[04:28] <Hilikus> is there a way to force a crontab to run?
[04:28] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction have a look at the Ubuntu wikis
[04:28] <Fryguy--> Hilikus: just run it...
[04:28] <rahduke> i can drag stuff to the desktop but i cant view it
[04:28] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction they have those thing documented
[04:29] <Hilikus> Fryguy-- how
[04:29] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction you can get them here as well
[04:29] <xtknight> pulpfiction, you'll want ubuntu-restricted-extras for sure.  java, media, fonts, unrar, mp3 decoder
[04:29] <pulpfiction> ok, thanks :)
[04:29] <belkinhelp2> DOH....what module did it say...
[04:29] <kindofabuzz> or pulp, just visit a site that uses flash and it will ask you if you want to install, install it, then restart browser
[04:29] <Fryguy--> same way you run any other program...
[04:29]  * belkinhelp2 sighs
[04:29] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction oh yeah, thats right
[04:29] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction xtknight got it right
[04:29] <pulpfiction> hehe easier huh
[04:29] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction :)
[04:29] <Hilikus> Fryguy-- what program are to talking about?
[04:29] <pulpfiction> 65% now :)
[04:29] <Hilikus> when you say run IT
[04:30] <Fryguy--> Hilikus: whatever program you are trying to run
[04:30] <belkinhelp2> ill run sesonsdetect and this time remember which modules are found
[04:30] <PmDematagoda> pulpfiction lol
[04:30] <qwo_> Hilikus: what cron job do you want to run?
[04:30] <Hilikus> qwo_ a script a wrote
[04:30] <xtknight> ubuntu-restricted-extras also installs flash
[04:30] <Hilikus> i* wrote
[04:31] <PmDematagoda> xtknight have you tried out Gnash?
[04:31] <Gary_inNYC> Fryguy, you say there's about 0 circumstances one needs to reboot, but every time i get an update related to the kernel I most always am required to reboot
[04:31] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, ya it was unreliable and featureless in my experience
[04:31] <qwo_> Hilikus: so run it :)
[04:31] <PmDematagoda> xtknight the beta as well?
[04:31] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, not sure i haven't tried it lately
[04:31] <Fryguy--> Gary_inNYC: kernel updates require a reboot to take effect
[04:31] <Hilikus> qwo_ no, i need to run it like cron
[04:31] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, the Flash works for me for now.  but i'd love to try gnash when/if it's mature
[04:31] <Fryguy--> Gary_inNYC: i said "approximately 0", not 0.
[04:31] <PmDematagoda> xtknight lol
[04:31] <Hilikus> thats what i need to know, not how to run my script
[04:31] <Gary_inNYC> no offense i just thought i missed something on my end
[04:31] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, i dont think gnash has reached adolescence yet ;)
[04:32] <qwo_> not sure what cron ubuntu linux uses
[04:32] <Fryguy--> Hilikus: cron is just timed execution of a command.. if you want to run the script, run the script
[04:32] <Gary_inNYC> if tehre really was 0 circumstances I want to know :)
[04:32] <qwo_> what is it by the way?
[04:32] <PmDematagoda> xtknight maybe, but when it comes out...
[04:32] <belkinhelp2> Winbond W83697HF Super IO Sensors, but when i modprobe it it tells me its not found and then gives a FATAL error
[04:32] <PmDematagoda> xtknight well
[04:32] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: it has a name
[04:32] <PmDematagoda> xtknight we have to wait and see
[04:32] <qwo_> i use fron myself
[04:32] <qwo_> fcron even
[04:32] <Fryguy--> and it will tell you the names of specifically what to do at the end of sensors detect
[04:32] <xtknight> what is icedtea anyway?  is it official implementation of java ( i thought they made java open source under some license )
[04:32] <belkinhelp2> yeah, i added w83697hf to the config file
[04:32] <xtknight> w/e it is, it didn't work for me
[04:33] <Fryguy--> belkinhelp2: so now type modprobe w83697hf
[04:33] <sam_> Hi guys. I downloaded and installed the drivers from nvidia.com. However on bootup it seems like ubuntu does not default to using /etc/X11/xorg.conf because on that my driver is set to nvidia, but on bootup it booted to my old settings. does anybody know how to fix this?
[04:33] <belkinhelp2> i did
[04:33] <PmDematagoda> xtknight icedtea is by Red Hat
[04:33] <PmDematagoda> xtknight its based on OpenJDK
[04:33] <Fryguy--> sam_: it uses xorg.conf just fine, why are you downloading the driver from nvidia, it's available right from ubuntu, much easier
[04:33] <Hilikus> Fryguy-- nop, not true, if that were true i would get the same result if i ran echo $PATH myself and from a cron job. thats only 1 example of different results, of course in my case i don't know what's the problem, thats why i need cron to run it. i just know that when i run it it works ok, not when cron runs it
[04:34] <xtknight> PmDematagoda, apparently openjdk is missing some parts
[04:34] <xtknight> so that's not even full implementation yet
[04:34] <PmDematagoda> xtknight yes it is
[04:34] <sam_> Fryguy--, because the version on Ubuntu looked like version 1.00, i need version 1.69 because i have a Geforce 8800GT 512MB ;)
[04:34] <Gary_inNYC> lol "Chris Hansen"
[04:34] <PmDematagoda> xtknight its not complete
 hi all, i have a requirement. we use vsftpd with protocl level logging ( all ftp commands are logged ). now our organization wants to move to sftp due to security considerations. pl tell me if anyone knows how to activate protocol level logging on sftp
[04:34] <PmDematagoda> xtknight but its rather good
[04:34] <PmDematagoda> xtknight and can be used in places where Java 6 doesnt work
[04:34] <Fryguy--> pea_brain: wrong channel
[04:35] <qwo_> what cron program comes with ubuntu, is it vixie or ... ?
[04:35] <belkinhelp2> ok, first time was a typo on my part.  But this time its verbatim, and this time no error but also no application
[04:35] <sam_> Fryguy--, when i restart the X server it loads my xorg.conf but on standard bootup it does not oddly
[04:35] <xtknight> not sure.  is there a gui cron config program for ubuntu?
[04:35] <pea_brain> then which channel?
[04:35] <Fryguy--> and now i'm going to bed, 4 hours of helping retards is enough
[04:35] <PmDematagoda> sam_ what VGA card do you have?
[04:35] <belkinhelp2> LOL
[04:35] <xtknight> Fryguy--, well i hope it was rewarding
[04:35] <sam_> PmDematagoda, i have a GeForce 8800GT 512mb
[04:35] <belkinhelp2> thanks, thats encouraging
[04:35] <Hilikus> xtknight yes, i cant remember waht its called though
[04:35] <Fryguy--> xtknight: it's not
[04:35] <Dr_willis__> !cookie | Fryguy--
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <xtknight> but nice labels
[04:36] <PmDematagoda> sam_ that explains it
[04:36] <belkinhelp2> before you bail on me
[04:36] <sam_> PmDematagoda, explains what?
[04:36] <owen1> when i run the command 'free' i get this: 397/503(mb) is in use. is it a lot (only irssi is open)
[04:36] <belkinhelp2> can you get me through this modprobe?
[04:36] <PmDematagoda> sam_ many people have problems with the 8800
[04:36] <PmDematagoda> sam_ on UF
[04:36] <PmDematagoda> sam_ the fix goes like this:-
[04:37] <PmDematagoda> sam_ do you have a GUI?
[04:37] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yeah
[04:37] <lancerocke> My DVDRom is in constant activity. The shit goes off when I boot into Ubuntu and not Windows. I dont get what can be going wrong because this is a fresh Ubuntu install
[04:37] <PmDematagoda> sam_ good
[04:37] <qwo_> Hilikus: look in the /etc/cron.* folders, you can add your script in there
[04:37] <sam_> PmDematagoda, I have got everything working, I had to install from the "alternate desktop cd" through a text installation
[04:37] <PmDematagoda> sam_ open a file for editing with gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:37] <sam_> PmDematagoda, except now it wont bootup prioperly
[04:37] <Yowshi> unop__: you got a walk though or some time to guide me through the steps needed to restore my programme settings?
[04:37] <PmDematagoda> you installed the Nvidia driver?
[04:38] <Hilikus> qwo_ my problem is not that its not running. its that it crashes with a weird error
[04:38] <PmDematagoda> sam_ you installed the Nvidia driver?
[04:38] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yes
[04:38] <xtknight> !info gnome-schedule
[04:38] <ubotu> gnome-schedule (source: gnome-schedule): GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (gutsy), package size 428 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[04:38] <pulpfiction> fry: :(
[04:38] <Hilikus> only when run by cron
[04:38] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yes, i installed the nvidia driver
[04:38] <PmDematagoda> sam_ and it works when you try and use the X-Server just after install does it not?
[04:38] <qwo_> Hilikus: well whats the error!
[04:38] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yes, on reboots it booted up improperly
[04:38] <PmDematagoda> sam_ there we go
[04:38] <Hilikus> qwo_ ERROR : 4 -> 0
[04:38] <PmDematagoda> sam_ ok, what I am suggesting will usually fix your problem
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> modprobe w83627hf
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> WARNING: Error inserting hwmon_vid (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hwmon-vid.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:38] <belkinhelp2> FATAL: Error inserting w83627hf (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627hf.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:39] <sam_> PmDematagoda, k thank you :D
[04:39] <CRINGO> Someone I'm helping has an odd problem, they start up their pc, it loads the kernel, then sits where it says "starting up"
[04:39] <Fossil_> can anyone suggest alternative firmware for my D-Link EBR-2310 ethernet router ?
[04:39] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, sudo modprobe..
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> so what happened?
[04:39] <PmDematagoda> sam_ open a file for editing with gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:39] <lancerocke> My DVDRom is in constant activity. The shit goes off when I boot into Ubuntu and not Windows. I dont get what can be going wrong because this is a fresh Ubuntu install
[04:39] <qwo_> Hilikus: now you need to read and possibly edit the script
[04:39] <belkinhelp2> when i sudo modprobe.....nothing happens
[04:39] <PmDematagoda> sam_ did you do that?
[04:39] <Hilikus> i dont need help fixing the error! i can debug that myselg, i just need to know how to force cron to run a job without doing something stupid like making cron run the job every 2 seconds
[04:39] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yes its open now
[04:39] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, if nothing is returned, the modules have loaded
[04:39] <qwo_> Hilikus: you wrote it after all, so what causing that error
[04:39] <xtknight> belkinhelp2, if there is an error it would say
[04:40] <v3ctor> belkinhelp2: sudo modprobe w83627hf
[04:40] <PmDematagoda> sam_ now you see the DISABLED MODULES line dont you?
[04:40] <Yowshi> unop__: you got a walk though or some time to guide me through the steps needed to restore my programme settings?
[04:40] <sam_> PmDematagoda, yes i do
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> so what now..the module is loaded.  Where do i start the application
[04:40] <PmDematagoda> sam_ within the ""s add nv and nvidia_new
[04:40] <jester45> could someone tell me why if [ "ping -c 1 -I eth0 www.google.com | sed -e 's/.*/ping/'" = "ping" ] ; then errors saying im giving it no imput (unary)
[04:40] <Hilikus> qwo_ so even if i fixed it, how am i supposed to test it? THAT is my question
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> AWESOME
[04:40] <qwo_> Hilikus: oh :) that would heavily depend on exactly WHAT cron package you have installed
[04:40] <belkinhelp2> sensors in terminal
[04:40] <qwo_> for example, you can do what you want with fcron I believe.
[04:41] <PmDematagoda> sam_ it should look like this DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"
[04:41] <sam_> PmDematagoda, done, thanks man i hope this will work :)
[04:41] <acu> which is the easiest mail server to install which allows administration and normal users to access their email from web interface ?
[04:41] <PmDematagoda> sam_ it usually does work
[04:41] <PmDematagoda> sam_ reconfigure your X-Server again
[04:42] <sam_> PmDematagoda, i have one more question you may or may not know, is it possible to get flash (to play youtube videos) in 64-bit firefox?
[04:42] <belkinhelp2> so how to I configure this to monitor my temperatures over an interval say every 5 minutes?
[04:42] <PmDematagoda> sam_ you need ndiswrapper
[04:42] <sam_> PmDematagoda, kk thanks man brb im gonna reboot and try it out
[04:42] <PmDematagoda> sam_ but on Gutsy, just visit a page with Flash, it will do the dirty stuff for you
[04:42] <Starnestommy> PmDematagoda: I think you mean nspluginwrapper
[04:42] <PmDematagoda> yeah
[04:42] <PmDematagoda> sorry
[04:43] <sam_> PmDematagoda, which one is gutsy? i have 7.10 is that gutsy? lol sorry im new i just moved from Arch Linux
[04:43] <PmDematagoda> sam_ yes
[04:43] <sam_> PmDematagoda, which one is gutsy? i have 7.10 is that gutsy? lol sweet thanks man for the help and info
[04:43] <lancerocke> Anyone know that "tssss tsss" sound DVDROMs make? Well my DVDROM is CONSTANTLY making that  noise right now and the green light is going off. I reboot and nothing works. It doesnt happen when I boot into Windows. Can  anyone help me?
[04:43] <PmDematagoda> sam_ 7.10 is Gutsy
[04:43] <sam_> PmDematagoda, oops didnt mean to retype that sentence
[04:43] <PmDematagoda> sam_ lol
[04:43] <CRINGO> Someone I'm helping has an odd problem, they start up their pc, it loads the kernel, then sits where it says "starting up."  Anyone have a few ideas of what his problem may be?  I told him to try to boot in safemode and see if it boots, i'm waiting for that now...
[04:43] <sam_> PmDematagoda, lol
[04:43] <sam_> PmDematagoda, thanks again bro im off to test this out :)
[04:43] <PmDematagoda> sam_ good luck
[04:44] <sam_> PmDematagoda, so far ubuntu seems pretty sweet
[04:44] <PmDematagoda> sam_ :)
[04:44] <sam_> PmDematagoda, thanks cya man
[04:44] <PmDematagoda> sam_ c ya
[04:44] <PmDematagoda> sam_ c y
[04:44] <PmDematagoda> damn
[04:44] <tux97> lol
[04:44] <Fossil_> can anyone suggest alternative firmware for my D-Link EBR-2310 ethernet router ?
[04:45] <PmDematagoda> well, Im off for a little time over at UF, cya
[04:46] <CRINGO> Someone I'm helping has an odd problem, they start up their pc, it loads the kernel, then sits where it says "starting up."  Anyone have a few ideas of what his problem may be?  I told him to try to boot in safemode and see if it boots, i'm waiting for that now...
[04:46] <eisenhower> can ubuntu gutsy(7.10) read vista partitions?
[04:46] <arcticpenguin380> eisenhower:yes
[04:47] <encompass> eisenhower: yes
[04:47] <eisenhower> can you edit from a instance of ubuntu too?
[04:47] <eisenhower> like edit stuff on the other partition*
[04:47] <encompass> CRINGO: gosh, could be alot of things there, what is the model of the PC?
[04:47] <arcticpenguin380> Im on hardy now what would happen if i downgrade to gutsy?
[04:47] <CRINGO> eisenhower, vista uses ntfs, you can get a tool to do so
[04:47] <mEck0> can someone help me with this bashscript error? http://pastebin.com/d76413f44
[04:47] <zhan_zr> eisenhower: Dose Vista use a different partition type from windows?
[04:47] <arcticpenguin380> no its NTFS
[04:47] <flaccid> the new WinFS didn't get included because they didn't finish it..
[04:48] <jester45> lol
[04:48] <Dr_willis__> flaccid,  which is a good thing. :)
[04:48] <encompass> CRINGO: I don't even think you need to get any extra tools
[04:48] <CRINGO> encompass, I think he built it
[04:48] <jester45> just like modt of the OS
[04:48] <arcticpenguin380> although it should be winfs but you know m$ always slacks off
[04:48] <flaccid> Dr_willis__: damn straight :)
[04:48] <zhan_zr> I think kernel 2.6 can parse NTFS without any tweaking.
[04:48] <CRINGO> to edit it encompass you do
[04:48] <Flannel> arcticpenguin380: It won't work too well.  But, #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support.
[04:48] <encompass> CRINGO: what can you tell me about it?
[04:48] <Yowshi> is there a command or app i can use to delete files with duplicate names so i can ditch my mp3's after i convert them using audacious?
[04:48] <Yowshi> since audacious doesnt seem to have a delete source file option
[04:48] <CRINGO> encompass, what hardware should I ask him about?
[04:49] <CRINGO> encompass, what chipset his mobo has, etc.?
[04:49] <Yowshi> either that or anyone have a better converter then audacity?
[04:49] <encompass> Yowshi: I am working on a gui version of that but not without some crazy bash scripting... you could use rhythmbox, it can sort the music and show you duplicates like htat
[04:49] <arcticpenguin380> yowshi: sound converter
[04:50] <encompass> CRINGO: the motherboard is the best start
[04:50] <CRINGO> okay
[04:50] <encompass> google search the model and then ubuntu, probalby will come up with somehting
[04:50] <Yowshi> would oggcopnvert be better then sound converter?
[04:50] <lancerocke> Anyone know that "tssss tsss" sound DVDROMs make? Well my DVDROM is CONSTANTLY making that  noise right now and the green light is going off. I reboot and nothing works. It doesnt happen when I boot into Windows. Can  anyone help me?
[04:50] <encompass> CRINGO: I had an issue like that and I updated the bios, then it worked perfectly
[04:50] <CRINGO> If i could figure out what ubuntu does when it first starts up i may have a better idea
[04:50] <Fossil_> heh, google lancerocke ?
[04:51] <lancerocke> Fossil_: so everyone here asking for help needs to JUST GOOGLE?
[04:51] <Fossil_> no, but its a start
[04:51] <CRINGO> encompass, yeah, i've never heard of that happening
[04:51] <Fossil_> lancerocke: i had the same problem almost the other day
[04:51] <encompass> lancerocke: not always, but almost every question has been answered with a quick search
[04:52] <Fossil_> lancerocke: i put an rsbac live cd in my drive and it walked away
[04:52] <Fossil_> lancerocke: when i came back my whole system was locked
[04:52] <lancerocke> obviously anyone asking for help here has googled already
[04:52] <CRINGO> hahahaha
[04:52] <CRINGO> no
[04:52] <Fossil_> lancerocke: youd be suprised
[04:52] <belkinhelp2> how do i run the sensor applet?
[04:52] <encompass> lancerocke: no they haven't sorry
[04:52] <CRINGO> people don't like to work for their own problems
[04:52] <CRINGO> they're lazy and need people to hold their hand
[04:52] <lancerocke> Fossil_: what fixed it?
[04:52] <jester45> Yowshi: do you want to delete all of your mp3s? or just certain ones
[04:52] <CRINGO> either that or they're REALLY bad at asking the right questions to google
[04:53] <encompass> belkinhelp2: right click on your bar at the top and click add to panel
[04:53] <Fossil_> nothing lancerocke, i did a hard reset and took out the cd before it booted
[04:53] <nikrud> CRINGO: often they don't have a clue about what to look for. That's why !google says:
[04:53] <nikrud> !google
[04:53] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[04:53] <encompass> belkinhelp2: you will have a list of applications you can add there... if it's not in the list, install it then look again
[04:53] <Fossil_> lancerocke: whats your model info on the drive?
[04:53] <lancerocke> Fossil_: you mean the hole in front of the DVDROM?
[04:54] <d0c5i5> anyone know of a good place on freenode to discuss amd hardware/motherboards? i'm building a new workstation and i've been out of the loop for a couple years and need some advice on the whole dual core / quad core thing
[04:54] <Starnestommy> d0c5i5: maybe ##hardware
[04:54] <lancerocke> Fossil_: one second
[04:54] <d0c5i5> Starnestommy: thanks!
[04:54] <jester45> nikrud: if you think you have better google-fu try finding a page for why if [ "ping -c 1 -I eth0 www.google.com | sed -e 's/.*/ping/'" = "ping" ] ; then errors saying im giving it no imput (unary)
[04:54] <Yowshi> i keep getting a general stream error when using sound converter
[04:55] <lancerocke> Fossil_: http://www.tsstorage.com/korea/en/product/info_view.php?category=56&pid=19
[04:55] <hardware> how to use exe
[04:55] <CRINGO> nikrud, yeah, that's nice that some people aren't jackasses and tell everyone else to google, if you can stomach helping someone, you should do it, if not, then don't bother sticking your nose in it
[04:55] <nikrud> jester45: if I was a sed fan I might be able to
[04:55] <lancerocke> Fossil_: http://forums.ny-dev.com/f215/your-computer-427/index2.html#post6563 "SSTCorp CDDVDW SH-S203N ATA"
[04:55] <nikrud> CRINGO: precisely
[04:55] <encompass> hardware: what? you mean you want to use a program from windows?
[04:55] <nikrud> !google
[04:55] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[04:55] <jester45> hardware: you dont thats windows maybe you should look into wine
[04:56] <hardware> yes
[04:56] <Fossil_> lancerocke: CRINGO, only reason i said anything was cuse he asked like 3 times
[04:56] <encompass> hardware: what is the program?
[04:56] <CRINGO> Fossil_, oh, i didn't know we were responding to you, sorry, heh
[04:56] <hardware> i have some important program in exe base
[04:56] <lancerocke> Fossil_: I didnt see what GRINGO said
[04:57] <talntid> hi all :)
[04:57] <lancerocke> Fossil_: Im  a little confused
[04:57] <encompass> hardware: many times there are programs that do the same thing but are made for linux, could you tell me the names of the programs?
[04:57] <talntid> trying to install ubuntu server and..
[04:57] <hardware> any solution for exe run in ubuntu
[04:57] <Starnestommy> hardware: use wine
[04:57] <jester45> use wine like i said
[04:58] <jester45> but if you can use a linux alternative its better
[04:58] <talntid> ubuntu cannot figure out how to install the base system. no cd rom was found and no valid mirror selected
[04:58] <encompass> Starnestommy: wine is something we should avoid, please
[04:58] <talntid> right after the partitioner
[04:58] <talntid> any ideas?
[04:58] <Fossil_> lancerocke: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/246063.aspx
[04:58] <hardware> i not about wine
[04:58] <DrIP> hi all, what's the easiest way to upgrade my system?
[04:58] <talntid> poweredge 2950,  raid6
[04:58] <lancerocke> Fossil_: one sec
[04:58] <encompass> hardware:  just tell the name of the program
[04:58] <talntid> booted off cdrom, so it does see the cdrom..
[04:58] <nikrud> hardware: windows exe's don't run in linux, except in wine
[04:58] <unop__> !equivalents | encompass
[04:58] <ubotu> encompass: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:58] <jester45> hardware: exe s will not run on linux without using wine
[04:59] <encompass> unop__: I know, thanks
[04:59] <hardware> wine is a software
[04:59] <jester45> yes
[04:59] <nikrud> !wine | hardware
[04:59] <ubotu> hardware: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:59] <unop__> encompass, you did ask what the alternatives to windows software were, right?
[04:59] <encompass> wine is a program that runs window sprograms
[04:59] <encompass> hardware: but you should try to use the linux programs first
[04:59] <lancerocke> Fossil_: that link has nothing to do with my issue
[05:00] <Jangari> i have a command that I want to make an executable program, essentially, it's in my local /bin directory on a server, ow do I make it so I can run it?
[05:00] <Fossil_> lancerocke: heh, didnt read far enough :P
[05:00] <encompass> if you really want windows programs then it's probably better to get windows
[05:00] <Jangari> how*
[05:00] <m11> where in folders are mysql databases stored in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <qwo_> Hilikus: I just figured out how to do what you want in fcron :)  cool.
[05:00] <hardware> thank's
[05:00] <hardware> bye
[05:00] <qwo_> fcrondyn -x 'run 0'
[05:00] <qwo_> fcrondyn -x 'ls'
[05:00] <Starnestommy> m11: I think /var/lib/mysql/
[05:00] <qwo_> theres some commands to play with
[05:00] <nikrud> m11: /var/lib/mysql
[05:00] <m11> tnx guys
[05:01] <CRINGO> Jangari, an .exe?
[05:01] <jester45> m11: use sqldump dont just copy the files, you might mess up the databases
[05:01] <Hilikus> qwo_ i dont think i use fcron :S
[05:01] <m11> jester45, i have no other option :/
[05:01] <Jangari> no, a text file that just contains a command
[05:01] <encompass> unop__: yeah, but he wouldn't tell the names of the programs he was using
[05:01] <encompass> unop__: and his english was bad
[05:01] <CRINGO> jangari, like C, or a script?
[05:01] <unop__> Jangari, place the file in /usr/local/bin and chmod it -- sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/program_name
[05:01] <jester45> Jangari: chmod 755 file should do it
[05:01] <Jangari> i want to run t as a cron job
[05:02] <p0k3r808> I am configuring mythtv how can I tell my usb card number?
[05:02] <lancerocke> Fossil_: i read the whole thing
[05:02] <qwo_> Hilikus: I doubt every cron package has a cool interface like fcrondyn :)
[05:02] <Hilikus> damn
[05:02] <Jangari> okay, i made it 764 though, will that do?
[05:02] <Jangari> I don't want other users to execute it
[05:02] <Fossil_> lancerocke: i honestly have no idea then. :/ sorry
[05:02] <lancerocke> Anyone know that "tssss tsss" sound DVDROMs make? Well my DVDROM is CONSTANTLY making that  noise right now and the green light is going off. I reboot and nothing works. It doesnt happen when I boot into Windows. Can  anyone help me?
[05:03] <unop__> Jangari, quite unlikely -- 764 doesnt lets group or other users execute the file
[05:03] <eisenhower> is hardy heron pretty stable?
[05:03] <encompass> p0k3r808: you mean the model?  lsusb is the command
[05:03] <unop__> Jangari, only the owner of that file will be able to execute it, and that's probably root
[05:03] <encompass> eisenhower: it's comming along well yes
[05:03] <Jangari> no, it should be 754, because i want those in my group to execute, but not to write, and I don't want others to do anything but read
[05:04] <encompass> eisenhower: but I wouldn't install it unless you know what your doing
[05:04] <Jangari> i'm the owner of the file, unop__, it's in ~/bin on a remote server, will it still run?
[05:04] <bluebanana> Hi, I've just brought home a scanner. How do i make it work with ubuntu?
[05:04] <jester45> Jangari: what about others
[05:05] <Bruno_> i just generated a revocation certificate for a gpg key and it revoked my key. i thought it only created the certificate to be used later. Is there a way to just create the certificate?
[05:05] <encompass> bluebanana: cool, what is the model, lets make sure it works in linux
[05:05] <ZeZu> why is the version of nasm on 7.10 repos. so very ancient ?
[05:05]  * belkinhelp2 yawns with a gaping mouth
[05:05] <eisenhower> aite ty encompass: 7.10 is just fine though right?
[05:05] <belkinhelp2> goodnight all
[05:05] <eisenhower> i'm totally new so this will be my first test run and w/e
[05:05] <bluebanana> encompass: the scanner that I received is Canon CanoScan LiDE 80 Color Scanner
[05:05] <encompass> eisenhower: yeah, I recommand you stick with it for now
[05:05] <eisenhower> aite
[05:05] <Jangari> jester45: others shouldn't be able to write or execute
[05:05] <jester45> Jangari: 750 would like owner rw and execute group exec/read but not write and nothing for pub
[05:06] <Jangari> i don't mind read acess for public, 754
[05:06] <connor> #ubuntu
[05:06] <connor> hi
[05:06] <connor> i need some help
[05:06] <encompass> bluebanana: let me see if I can find a howto on the net
[05:06] <Jangari> but still, how do i make it run as a command in a terminal
[05:06] <connor> i tried to run a game, but when i run it, it crashes and i get a glx error
[05:06] <fuffalo> where do i see usb drives that i plug into my computer, in ubuntu?
[05:06] <jester45> type it
[05:06] <connor> theres no glx supported
[05:06] <bluebanana> encompass: thanks.
[05:06] <connor> i tried the drivers but that didnt fix the error
[05:06] <connor> can anyone help me?
[05:06] <bluebanana> I plugged it in, but no light is on when I open the flatbed scanner
[05:07] <CRINGO> fuffalo, /media
[05:07] <jester45> Jangari: you should be able to type it out
[05:07] <bluebanana> things are not just plug and play with ubuntu, are they?
[05:07] <eisenhower> is 7.10 32bit or 64?
[05:07] <Jangari> it doesn't run
[05:07] <connor> hey cringo
[05:07] <Jangari> i don't have su access on this server, by the way, i want to run it as a user
[05:07] <connor> can you help me with a problem?
[05:07] <Starnestommy> eisenhower: it can be either.  the amd64 version is 64-bit
[05:07] <jester45> Jangari: u try the full path
[05:07] <Yowshi> unop_: you got a walk though or some time to guide me through the steps needed to restore my programme settings?
[05:07] <CRINGO> fuffalo, it usually calls it "disk"?
[05:07] <unop_> Jangari, under what user context are you trying to run it? and what error message if any are you getting?
[05:07] <fuffalo> CRINGO, i don't see it in media
[05:07] <encompass> bluebanana: it looks like it's not supported
[05:08] <connor> encompass
[05:08] <encompass> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551894
[05:08] <connor> can you help me with a problem
[05:08] <Jangari> "command not found"
[05:08] <bluebanana> can't we make the scanner work, encompass? 8-(
[05:08] <Yowshi> !mp3
[05:08] <encompass> bluebanana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551894
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <unop_> Jangari, user wont be able to run the command -- the permissions are simply wrong -- you need 755 at the very least
[05:08] <Jangari> should I ask in #bash?
[05:08] <owen1> tv-out in totem is disabled. any idea?
[05:08] <jester45> bluebanana: some things are PnP but others need drivers just like in windows
[05:08] <Jangari> but I'm the owner, unop_
[05:08] <eisenhower> Starnestommy: alright i guess i just need help getting the right version. i have a t8300 2.4GHZ intel. with 4gb of ram.   does the regular 7.10 optimize 4gb of ram
[05:08] <eisenhower> ?*
[05:08] <bluebanana> jester45: ok. can i make my canoScan LiDE 80 scanner work in Ubuntu if I have drivers?
[05:08] <bluebanana> (hope so)
[05:08] <unop_> Yowshi, if you copy the contents of your old $HOME directory into the new one -- that should do it
[05:08] <CRINGO> fuffalo, I'm trying to remember what it's labeled as under /dev/
[05:09] <connor> hey unop
[05:09] <encompass> bluebanana: sorry, not without a lot of effort, be sure to always research your hardware and it support before you buy it.
[05:09] <Yowshi> cool i can do that
[05:09] <connor> can you help me out
[05:09] <encompass> connor: yes?
[05:09] <unop_> Jangari, are you sure -- what does the output of ls -ld /usr/local/program list?
[05:09] <connor> i need help getting a game to work
[05:09] <unop_> connor, hey :)
[05:09] <encompass> connor: I can try
[05:09] <connor> can we do this in a private chat
[05:09] <bluebanana> encompass: can't i just install some driver? (I do have the Win/Mac CDs)
[05:09] <connor> encompass
[05:09] <connor> go to the private chat
[05:09] <jester45> bluebanana: idk look in you menus at system | administration| printing
[05:09] <encompass> connor: sure
[05:09] <connor> ok
[05:09] <Jangari> okay, the full path runs it
[05:10] <connor> you in there yet?
[05:10] <jester45> see if it detects it
[05:10] <unop_> Jangari, looks like that path isnt in your $PATH envar then
[05:10] <CRINGO> hey guys, what is a usb stick labeled as under /dev/?
[05:10] <xb3rt> can someone help me setup freemind on ubuntu gutsy
[05:10] <encompass> CRINGO: sdX
[05:10] <encompass> sd somthing
[05:10] <Yowshi> wow 1 hour to convert every mp3 in one folder/subfolders into ogg format
[05:10] <CRINGO> i thought so
[05:10] <encompass> use fdisk -l to help you find the right one
[05:10] <connor> why do you need .ogg format?
[05:10] <Yowshi> 932 files in all
[05:10] <jester45> because its an open format !!!!
[05:11] <connor> INDEED
[05:11] <connor> !!!
[05:11] <connor> hey encompass?
[05:11] <Yowshi> connor cause ogg is a free audio format
[05:11] <connor> i know
[05:11] <encompass> connor: yes?
[05:11] <connor> could you help me
[05:11] <connor> in the private chat?
[05:11] <CRINGO> fuffalo, go to /dev/ and look for sd0 or sd1 or such
[05:11] <encompass> connor: I am in provate shat with you
[05:11] <connor> you are?
[05:11] <connor> it says you arent
[05:11] <connor> ok
[05:11] <owen1> how to find my computer's cpu? (in mhz)
[05:11] <connor> heres the thing
[05:11] <unop> shat? :)
[05:11] <connor> wait
[05:11] <FloodBot2> connor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <unop> owen1, cat /proc/cpuninfo
[05:12] <Yowshi> oh unop also how would i edit fstab to put sdb1 in /home/yoshi/home-data or something like that
[05:12]  * jester45 bets Yowshi is on irc via xchat running on his compiz-fusion that needs fglrx 
[05:12] <connor> ?
[05:12] <CRINGO> fuffalo, once you find it, make a directory in /media/, call it whatever you want, then mount that device to that directory
[05:12] <encompass> owen1: I think they have that isn system---> administration--->system monitor
[05:12] <eisenhower> 64bit AMD and Intel computers  <--- can that support a intel core 2 duo ( celeron) 2.4ghz ?
[05:12] <owen1> unop: encompass  thanks
[05:12] <Yowshi> jester no i am on my pidgin cause this isfresh 2 hours old install
[05:12] <encompass> eisenhower: yes
[05:12] <eisenhower> aite
[05:12] <Yowshi> but i intent to install compiz-fusion
[05:12] <sam_> hi guys i have a problem, my audio is detected (realtek 888) and i have a mixer, and nothing is muted, yet i can not hear anything
[05:12] <eisenhower> thank you so much encompass
[05:13] <CRINGO> fuffalo, <encompass> use fdisk -l to help you find the right one
[05:13] <fuffalo> fdisk -l doesn't show anything
[05:13] <jester45> Yowshi: /dev/sdd1 /home/yoshi/home-data auto fat32 defaults,sync 0 0
[05:13] <unop> Yowshi, a line like this --  /dev/sdbX /home/yoshi/home-data ext3 defaults,rw 0 2
[05:14] <owen1> unop: cat: /proc/cpuninfo: No such file or directory
[05:14] <Yowshi> opk and where do i put that unop
[05:14] <encompass> fuffalo: run lsusb
[05:14] <Jangari> okay, got it working for now, later on I'll try and add my bin directory to $PATH, but i'm happy to run it via full path for now, since it's just ~/bin/command
[05:14] <encompass> does it show your device there?
[05:14] <Yowshi> that long line of gibberish
[05:14] <Krozy> Does anyone here use Truecrypt?
[05:14] <Jangari> thanks for the help folks
[05:14] <unop> owen1, sorry typo -- /proc/cpuinfo
[05:14] <fuffalo> encompass, i see it there
[05:14] <jester45> unop its a usb device so you want sync
[05:14] <fuffalo> what do i do with the info from lsusb
[05:14] <encompass> fuffalo: and it mounts and you can use it?
[05:14] <MTecknology> I'm having some issues with my internet... I bought a new wireless router and I'm still losing connections... so - - where is that info stored in Ubuntu, and how can I test my card?
[05:14] <fuffalo> encompass, i can see it in lsusb
[05:14] <fuffalo> i don't see where it mounts to
[05:14] <owen1> unop: 1x
[05:14] <Yowshi> jester sdb isnt a flash disk
[05:15] <owen1> unop: 10x
[05:15] <encompass> fuffalo: it tells all the devices plugged into your usb ports
[05:15] <unop> Yowshi, Yowshi, substitute the right filesystem there instead of ext3 -- and place it on a line of it's own in /etc/fstab -- last line will do
[05:15] <jester45> Yowshi: thats a usb storage right
[05:15] <bluebanana> jester, so i'm at  system | administration| printing | new printer. Do you know what I should choose?
[05:15] <encompass> I am checking whether it's plugged in and seen by the computer
[05:15] <unop> jester45, sorry??
[05:15] <bluebanana>  jester45: it's asking me to "select connection".
[05:15] <Yowshi> jester45: noooo thats a 250 gig sata harddrive
[05:15] <fuffalo> encompass, i see it plugged in in lsusb, but i don't see it mounted
[05:15] <jester45> bluebanana: does it find any
[05:15] <bluebanana> jester45: um, no
[05:15] <encompass> fuffalo: what kind of device is it?
[05:15] <fuffalo> a phone
[05:15] <fuffalo> but it acts as a portal hard drive without it's software
[05:16] <encompass> fuffalo: what kind of phone
[05:16] <bluebanana> jester45: it lists a few "devices": print into pdf file, windows printer via samba, appsocket, ipp, lpd/spr host or printer, other
[05:16] <jester45> Yowshi: o then im wrong remove the sync... just listen to the 2nd line
[05:16] <ZeZu> i used alien to install a newer version of nasm, and get nasm: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by nasm)
[05:16] <fuffalo> the brand is HTC, or "high tech computer corp"
[05:16] <ZeZu> libc6 is the newest version
[05:16] <nikrud> !alien | ZeZu
[05:16] <ubotu> ZeZu: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:16] <encompass> fuffalo: can you give me the line that give you in lsusb?
[05:16] <ZeZu> or so says apt-get
[05:16] <MUS4SHIII> Anyone know anything about tor and privoxy?
[05:16] <fuffalo> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bb4:0b11 High Tech Computer Corp.
[05:16] <Yowshi> so let me see if i get this right
[05:17] <ZeZu> nikrud, thats not helpfull
[05:17] <Yowshi> i sudo gedit /etc/fstab and add /dev/sdbX /home/yoshi/home-data ext3 defaults,rw 0 2
[05:17] <encompass> fuffalo: I am not googling that like with ubuntu
[05:17] <ZeZu> nikrud, apt-get isn't helpfull when it has an ancient version of nasm that doesn't have 64b support either
[05:17] <jester45> bluebanana: is this a usb printer or parallel
[05:17] <nikrud> ZeZu: it's not helpful to use alien :) The assumptions about what present in dependencies are different in the os's that rpm was intended for
[05:17] <CRINGO> fuffalo, yeah, that sounds different
[05:17] <encompass> fuffalo: ouch, not one result
[05:17] <bluebanana> jester45: usb.
[05:17] <unop> Yowshi, well you need the right device -- /dev/sdb1 e.g. and the right filesystem there -- it might not be ext3
[05:18] <nikrud> ZeZu: that's also a true statement
[05:18] <Yowshi> why wouldmnt it be
[05:18] <Yowshi> it was originally formatted as ext3
[05:18] <encompass> fuffalo: now is this a phone you use with your computer or a cell phone that you can connect to your computer
[05:18] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: Tor exit nodes eat bandwidth up?
[05:18] <unop> Yowshi, ok, so it is -- :)
[05:18] <fuffalo> it's like a PDA phone
[05:18] <fuffalo> it runs windows mobile
[05:18] <nikrud> ZeZu: you're nearly always better off trying to compile for yourself than use alien
[05:18] <jester45> bluebanana: im not sure then
[05:18] <unop> Yowshi, you might have chosen ext2, or reiserfs or vfat, or whatever -- my point was, make sure its the right one
[05:18] <ZeZu> ok, i'll just build it
[05:18] <MUS4SHIII> Some. Things were really slow before I tweaked vidalia to look for only quick servers.
[05:19] <dooley> noble- ?
[05:19] <Yowshi> and if there is an entry in there already? as there appears to be i just edit it to point it where i want it to wind up right?
[05:19] <encompass> fuffalo: hmm that is somehting I don't know how to do :/
[05:19] <CRINGO> encompass, would he have to partition it with a fat fs or something?
[05:19] <connor> encompass
[05:19] <connor> do you want the error i got?
[05:19] <fuffalo> not a huge deal...i can dual boot into windows for it...jsut didn't want to
[05:19] <encompass> connor: hey there your back
[05:19] <connor>  bnyep
[05:19] <encompass> connor: what are you trying to do
[05:19] <connor> do you want the error?
[05:19] <Yowshi> ext3 gives logging and from my understanding more robust data storage for my personal data
[05:19] <fuffalo> what normally hpapens if you plug in a usb drive to linux, does it pop up somewhere? in /media?
[05:19] <MUS4SHIII> Everything worked great on my laptop, but on my desktop the vidalia map isn't working and I'm not getting Privoxy messeges like I was.
[05:19] <connor> when i start stepmania, i get this error
[05:19] <connor> Error: There was an error while initializing your video card.
[05:19] <connor>    PLEASE DO NOT FILE THIS ERROR AS A BUG!
[05:19] <connor> Video Driver: OpenGL
[05:19] <connor> Initializing OpenGL...
[05:19] <connor> SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visua
[05:19] <FloodBot2> connor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <unop> Yowshi, apart from that, it looks ok to go into /etc/fstab -- after saving the file -- you need to run  mount -a
[05:19] <encompass> CRINGO: USB stick it can be in any format he like, but the other os's may not like it :D
[05:20] <CRINGO> fuffalo, you should write up a post on the forums
[05:20] <connor> i got my nvidia drivers, but that didnt help
[05:20] <CRINGO> someone else may find that useful
[05:20] <mEck0> If the condition of a if-statement (bash-script) is false, does he test the condition of the elif?? (else if)
[05:20] <encompass> connor: show the error, ok...
[05:20] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: i never used the client i just run a few exit nodes
[05:20] <mEck0> does seem so
[05:20] <CRINGO> encompass, that's why i said fat, i figured anyhow
[05:20] <unop> mEck0, yes
[05:20] <nikrud> fuffalo: better yet, put it in help.ubuntu.com/community , less likely to get lost in the chaff
[05:20] <encompass> outa here, back latter
[05:21] <jester45> mEcho yes because its not the if its anything else
[05:21] <DrIP> hi all, what's the easiest way to upgrade my system?
[05:21] <CRINGO> fuffalo, most usb drives use fat or something, linux fss can read/write to fat
[05:21] <JoCo> hey everyone im having a problem connecting to my network
[05:21] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: Vidalia is nice and makes some of the stuff easier. I really like the map that shows me where my traffic is going, even if it is a little cheesy.
[05:21] <unop> mEck0, unless the expression in the if statement causes the script to return
[05:21] <DrIP> any ideas?
[05:21] <Yowshi> whoop it works. thanks guys
[05:21] <JoCo> my wireless card is working properly and detects the networks and im trying to get into my wpa personal network and i have the right pw but it isnt really connecting
[05:21] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: the map for my nodes would be to confusing
[05:22] <DrIP> anyone?
[05:22] <unop> Yowshi, see, it was quite easy after all :)
[05:22] <kumanderkonki> hello
[05:22] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: you have lots?
[05:22] <Yowshi> yeah well unop a few wrong keystrokes in that file and i would have to reinstall again
[05:22] <jester45> DrIP: use the update manager, or if you have a really old install edit the sources.list and change the edgy/drapper part to the one you want
[05:22] <amenado> JoCo-> is the unencrypted working okay? ie can you connect without wpa enabled?
[05:23] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: yes, 4 of them
[05:23] <unop> Yowshi, quite unlikely -- mount would just ignore that entry and try and continue on as normal
[05:23] <DrIP> jester45: thanks
[05:23] <JoCo> amenado: its a wpa personal network and i have the right key, im in it right now on my macbook
[05:23] <mEck0> unop, ok, can you please check if you see an error in my script here? http://pastebin.com/d1b22bce9  It works when I'm using dualmonitors (2560x1024), though when I disconnect from the TFT, the script prints out the current resolution 1280x800 (code on top of the script), BUT, it does not set the right wallpaper, and not even print out my text-text "in elif"
[05:23] <Yowshi> i mean if i buggered it up REALLY badly as i am known to and blanked it out like i did my grub that one time
[05:23] <JoCo> but its like not recieving the information or something on the ubuntu
[05:23] <amenado> JoCo has it ever worked without using WPa or wpa2, ie in the clear?
[05:23] <Yowshi> or fragged the entry for the boot partition
[05:24] <zero88> how would i switch to fluxbox from gnome
[05:24] <nikrud> Yowshi: you can fix just about anything from the live cd without reinstall.
[05:24] <JoCo> amenado: no its a fully encrypted network that needs a pw
[05:24] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: I haven't wrapped by brain around the what all I'm looking at yet. I show five open connections, but each one has 3 users in it. I don't quite know what that means.
[05:24] <jester45> zero88: apt-get isntall ubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <Yowshi> nikrud anything but a whicked permission frag up eh :)
[05:24] <zero88> jester45, what would i do after that?
[05:24] <nikrud> zero88: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:24] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: your running a node also?
[05:25] <Yowshi> last time i ever edit wine folder in an atempt to make something sudo runable with wine
[05:25] <crshman> is 40C too high for a harddrive?
[05:25] <zero88> nikrud, how would i switch it then,just downloaded both
[05:25] <bluebanana> jester45: you mean if it were parallel, it would be better?
[05:25] <nikrud> Yowshi: even that, if you have perseverance. One of the gurus that hangs around here described taking a couple weeks to do just that :)
[05:25] <jester45> zero88: let it finish and reboot/ restart you login manager, if you dont use a login manager run as root /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:25] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: no, i'm a leacher, but I'm connecting to 5 others I think, but each connection has 3 users. I'm not sure how to interpret that. I just installed this yesterday.
[05:25] <nikrud> zero88: when you are at the gui login, hit options->sessions
[05:25] <unop> mEck0, the expression -  if [ "$CURRENTXRES==2560 && $CURRENTYRES==1024" ];  -- will always evaluate to true -- it's like saying --  if [ mEck0 ]; -- unquote the expression and it should be ok
[05:26] <zero88> nikrud,  jester45  nice thanks guys
[05:26] <unop> mEck0, same with the elif expression
[05:26] <r00723r0> Anyone here use quodlibet?
[05:26] <r00723r0> Or exfalso?
[05:26] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: leechers are what cause the network to slow down :) but its ok
[05:26] <fade_> hello
[05:26] <mEck0> unop, hmm okay, so thats the problem, do you know how I can modify the script to get it work? I'm a newbie in bashscripting :(
[05:27] <bluebanana> jester45: what can i do then?
[05:27] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: well, I'm new. I might run a node after a while, but I'm not even completely sure of my leaching yet.
[05:28] <fade_> I'm a noob in linux been trying to find how to mount my NTFS drives
[05:28] <mEck0> unop, ahh now I red your last sentence... *testing*
[05:28] <fade_> says i'm  not privileged
[05:28] <jester45> bluebanana: im not sure look on google to see if linux has the driver
[05:28] <SkinnYPupp> Is vmware running over ssh -X session on a 10/100 always slow on response or is there something I can fennagle to work better? It's very responsive to input on the host machine, and other programs seem more responsive over ssh.
[05:28] <nikrud> fade_: how are you trying to mount them, when it says not privileged
[05:28] <jester45> fade_: you have to run the command as root, meaning use sudo mount
[05:28] <fade_> just normally through the browser
[05:29] <fade_> i don't want to sudo mount it every single time I want access to my ntfs drives
[05:29] <MUS4SHIII> I keep getting sent to the french and german google sites and being told that I look like a spammer. For some reason my laptop didn't do that after the install, but then again the Vidalia map worked on there too.
[05:29] <jester45> o try gksu nautilus then
[05:29] <computer13137> Hmm...
[05:29] <computer13137> I'm having trouble compiling stuff.
[05:29] <computer13137> http://p.just-owns.eu/p/t_4711206077370.txt
[05:29] <jester45> fade_: then add it to your fstab to auto mount each boot
[05:29] <computer13137> No matter what I try to do I get similar errors.
[05:29] <unop> mEck0, you probably also want to use double brackets since it's a boolean expression -  if [[ $CURRENTXRES==2560 && $CURRENTYRES==1024 ]];
[05:29] <nikrud> fade_: hm, never used that method myself fade_ . I set up the partitions to mount automatically at boot
[05:30] <bluebanana> jester45: my printer has CDs. Can i use a win/mac driver?
[05:30] <fade_> i forgot what ini that was
[05:30] <jester45> bluebanana: i dont think so but im not a printer master
[05:30] <fade_> but should I just edit that to mount at boot?
[05:30] <bluebanana> Ok.
[05:30] <bluebanana> Hello, everyone. Is there any printer master here?
[05:31] <zarath> hey guys... I've got a new ubuntu 7.10 install on a PS3 (cell) and I'm trying to do do-release-upgrade and it's saying "no valid mirror found" when updating repository info.  Does this mean cell binaries aren't available for hardy heron yet?
[05:31] <ohs> run this as root mount -t ntfs /dev/part /mnt/point
[05:31] <nikrud> !fstab | fade_ this has the details, ask if you need help
[05:31] <ubotu> fade_ this has the details, ask if you need help: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:31] <fade_> oh i foudn the issue
[05:31] <fade_> it says they are still in use
[05:31] <fade_> ill force it off
[05:31] <zero88> nikrud, I rebooted into fluxbox but nothing booted up,only the bottom panel
[05:31] <bluebanana> jester45: sane page says my Canoscan lide 80 is not supported http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-lide-80.html
[05:31] <jester45> fade_:  /etc/fstab add a line like /dev/sddrivehere  /windows     ntfs    defaults 0       1
[05:31] <nikrud> zero88: what bottom panel? The fluxbox one?
[05:32] <fade_> thanks jester45 :)
[05:32] <jester45> i would ssay its not supported then
[05:32] <fade_> that's what it is fstab
[05:32] <sam__> yay sound works
[05:32] <jester45> and it doesnt mount
[05:32] <zero88> nikrud, not sure. only had arrows on both side. i couldnt right click on the screen or anything
[05:32] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: do you know of a good way to test privoxy?
[05:32] <jester45> MUS4SHIII: go to lots of pages
[05:33] <nikrud> zero88: the last time I used fluxbox was a while back. I'm not sure what the desktop does. Try holding ctl and clicking, or alt
[05:33] <foo> scp "tasha:/public/listen/music3/Saliva/Unknown Album/Click Click Boom.mp3"  ./ says this: cp: /public/listen/music3/Saliva/Unknown: No such file or directory
[05:33] <foo> scp: Album/Click: No such file or directory
[05:33] <foo> I used quotes, backslashes, single quotes, quotes around directory name only ... and I keep getting that error, any ideas?
[05:34] <fade_> thanks guys for the help
[05:34] <zero88> nikrud, ya i will try that
[05:34] <fade_> 8:04 is look sweet!
[05:34] <nikrud> foo: scp user@host:/path/to/file
[05:34] <computer13137> make: *** [clean] Error 127
[05:34] <computer13137> What's that mean?
[05:34] <unop> zer0ne, fluxbox has no desktop icons or other fancy stuff -- you need to use the main menu -- right click anywhere on the desktop for it
[05:34] <foo> nikrud: tasha is configured in .config for ssh
[05:34] <zero88> MUS4SHIII, what you need privoxy for
[05:34] <mEck0> unop, the script now looks like: http://pastebin.com/d5f85d25d  It doesn't work when I disconnect the TFT. It does not write out "in elif" and not setting the right wallpaper :(
[05:35] <Yowshi> hmmm i try to start firefox it says it is already running but i dont see uit's entry in the gui system monitor
[05:35] <Yowshi> how do i find and kill this thing in the cli
[05:35] <nikrud> foo: hm, then doh. try /Unknown\ Album , didn't that work?
[05:35] <MUS4SHIII> zero88: I don't really, but I like to learn how all this stuff works. Also, anonymity is a good thing.
[05:35] <foo> nikrud: that's what I'm asking :) makes no sense to me
[05:36] <nikrud> foo: I've seen people use \ instead of space, but if you've set up .config I guess my simplistic answers won't do ;(
[05:36] <DOOM_NX> i am going to reformat my PC. i have an 120GB drive separated to the following partitions: 19GB /, 40GB /home, 1GB swap, 60GB Windows. how am i going to reformat if i want to keep my files in home?
[05:36] <foo> nikrud: thanks :/ weird
[05:37] <nikrud> foo: have you tried the user@host syntax, just for kicks?
[05:37] <foo> hm, no, let me try that
[05:37] <zarath> anyone running ubuntu on a playstation 3?
[05:37] <foo> nikrud: no go
[05:37] <DOOM_NX> are there any settings stored in home directory?
[05:37] <jester45> Yowshi: ps x |grep firefox     then kill -15 <firstnumber>
[05:37] <Yowshi> thanks jester45
[05:37] <zero88> MUS4SHIII, try TOR
[05:38] <jester45> the first number on the output you put after the -15 and if that doesnt quite kill it switch the 15 to 9
[05:38] <zero88> MUS4SHIII,  www.torproject.org/
[05:38] <nikrud> foo: then you've done what I would try. except maybe for tasha:" etc " unless you've tried that
[05:38] <Positronic> what do I have to do to upgrade from 8.04 alpha to 8.04 beta?
[05:38] <arooni-mobile> my load on my desktop (dual core + 2GB of ram) is terribly high.... 9.1, 9.02, 9.02..........................    how can i figure out why its sucking so much
[05:38] <foo> nikrud: yuo, I have
[05:38] <computer13137> Can anyone have a look at MAKE for me?  Why is it generating these errors whenever I try to compile something?  http://p.just-owns.eu/p/t_8161206077891.txt
[05:38] <foo> yup*
[05:38] <unop> mEck0, try this -- http://pastebin.com/d75345bce
[05:38] <darkscript> kill -9 is a different termination signal right
[05:38] <xb3rt> anybody know how i can set up a anonymous proxy for my internet connection to go through?
[05:38] <MUS4SHIII> zero88: I have tor, but tor and privoxy kind of go together. Tor simply routes the traffic, but does little for privacy other than coming out from an IP somewhere else.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> zero88: tor won't let you enter #ubuntu and related channels.
[05:38] <Yowshi> jester45:  LOL the damn id number keeps shifting before i can even type it out
[05:39] <nikrud> foo: that is why I never use spaces in file paths, it always seems to trip me up somewhere
[05:39] <computer13137> xb3rt: You mean like an ssh tunnel that's a proxy?
[05:39] <Positronic> what do I have to do to upgrade from 8.04 alpha to 8.04 beta?
[05:39] <zero88> Hobbsee, ah. MUS4SHIII , well never used tor, but how is it for security?
[05:39] <nycToTa> greetings! i have a quick question - what type of partition should be used for /boot?
[05:39] <foo> nikrud: yeah, but this is elementary, it should be working
[05:39]  * foo confused
[05:39] <xb3rt> computer13137: not sure how those work,
[05:39] <Hobbsee> !tor | zero88
[05:39] <ubotu> zero88: TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[05:39] <computer13137> unop:  Could you have a look at this?  http://p.just-owns.eu/p/t_8161206077891.txt
[05:39] <nikrud> Positronic: ask on #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <Hobbsee> zero88: it's not
[05:39] <computer13137> xb3rt: You mean like, you enter something into your proxy settings, and now your IP is that of the server you're connected to? :P
[05:39] <jester45> xb3rt: use Tor + proxivy
[05:39] <zero88> Hobbsee,  is not what?
[05:39] <computer13137> xb3rt: Because that's easy.
[05:40] <computer13137> jester45: no no no, so many easier ways.
[05:40] <JoCo> hey guys my network isnt connecting to my wpa personal encrypted network but i have the right pw and everything....
[05:40] <unop> darkscript, kill -9 asks the process to terminate immediately (kill itself) without the chance to cleanup after itself
[05:40] <Hobbsee> zero88: secure.  well, it's not anonymous.
[05:40] <MUS4SHIII> xb3rt: try tor and privoxy, that is what I'm in hear asking about. It works well, just a little confusing at first glance.
[05:40] <computer13137> xb3rt: Are you using PuTTY ssh client?
[05:40] <xb3rt> computer13137: hook me up, i just want something that'll spoof my ip basically
[05:40] <jester45> but just using your server's ip isnt anonymous
[05:40] <zero88> Hobbsee,  oh, so its not secure and not anonymous? :)
[05:40] <computer13137> xb3rt: jester is right though - the IP of the server you're using is now what's exposed.
[05:40] <darkscript> it asks the process or it forces the process to die unop?
[05:40] <computer13137> xb3rt: If you feel comfortable with that I'd be glad to walk you through it, it's not hard.
[05:40] <computer13137> :P
[05:41] <connor> can someone help me with a problem?
[05:41] <computer13137> unop?
[05:41] <MUS4SHIII> jester45: no, but isn't that what privoxy is for? or is there something else I need to do?
[05:41] <unop> computer13137, can you post that again -- this time include the command you typed to cause that error
[05:41] <computer13137> connor, just ask. :)
[05:41] <zero88> connor just ask
[05:41] <connor> ok
[05:41] <connor> whenever i start this one game, i get an error
[05:41] <bluebanana> hi, jester45. i just realized something.
[05:41] <xb3rt> computer13137: what are the downfalls of doing that
[05:41] <computer13137> unop, I typed "make"... as specified by the program's install.txt. :P
[05:41] <Yowshi> what about a killall of some kind?
[05:41] <connor> i installed my drivers, but it still didnt help
[05:41] <jimmygoon> xb3rt, tor is slow
[05:41] <bluebanana> jester45: you told me to look into the Printing config, but my machine is not a printer. It's a scanner.
[05:41] <computer13137> xb3rt: Well... none, as long as it's not your server. ;)
[05:41] <bluebanana>  8-)
[05:41] <connor> let me get the error log real quick
[05:41] <unop> darkscript, asks/forces/whatever -- the process has no choice but to oblige
[05:41] <computer13137> xb3rt: My point is, it's still your IP if it's your server...just that it's not the one you have from your ISP.  So you look like you ARE the server, not you.
[05:41] <darkscript> cool
[05:42] <darkscript> i learned something then
[05:42] <mEck0> unop, ./dual_monitor_wallpaper: line 9: syntax error in conditional expression./dual_monitor_wallpaper: line 9: syntax error near `-a'./dual_monitor_wallpaper: line 9: `if [[ $CURRENTXRES == 2560 -a $CURRENTYRES == 1024 ]]; then'
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | connor
[05:42] <ubotu> connor: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:42] <jester45> bluebanana: that might change it
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> precautionary measure
[05:42] <unop> mEck0, ok, just a sec
[05:42] <xb3rt> computer13137: i want one that has nothing to do with my ip or isp
[05:42] <MUS4SHIII> xb3rt: You can tweak it to make it a quicker than it is at install.
[05:42] <foo> nikrud: FYI, I needed quotes and double backslashes
[05:42] <computer13137> xb3rt: The server you're connecting to - is it yours, or some huge web hosting server you happen to have SSH on?
[05:43] <connor> heres the error log
[05:43] <connor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60378/
[05:43] <connor> the game is stepmania by the way
[05:43] <computer13137> unop, not sure if you saw it before.  I typed "make".
[05:43] <unop> computer13137, I have a feeling that necessary dev packages might not be available -- check the packages requirements and make sure you satisfy them all
[05:43] <xb3rt> computer13137: just for personal browsing usage on firefox basically
[05:43] <nikrud> foo: like " .... wierd\\ name ..."
[05:43] <Yowshi> how do you kill a process who'd ID changes everytime you view it
[05:43] <darkscript> killall processname
[05:43] <connor> so, any idea about the error?
[05:43] <computer13137> xb3rt... OK great.  Do you use PuTTY for your SSH client?
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay, no GLX
[05:44] <connor> yep
[05:44] <connor> i installed my video drivers, but to no luck
[05:44] <xb3rt> computer13137: Im not sure at all what im using
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> connor, what card?
[05:44] <connor> uhh
[05:44] <connor> geforce 5200 i think
[05:44] <connor> fx version
[05:44] <connor> 5200 or 5800
[05:44] <computer13137> xb3rt... when you go to login to the server.  Are you using putty or what?
[05:44] <Yowshi> darkscript: killall firefox doesnt work
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> low end but should run stepmania just fine...
[05:44] <connor> yeah
[05:45] <connor> i run stepmania with 500 fps on windows xp
[05:45] <connor> :D
[05:45] <darkscript> yowshi killall firefox-bin
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you have nvidia-glx-new installed?
[05:45] <bunkacid> killall -9
[05:45] <connor> dont think so
[05:45] <connor> where do i get it
[05:45] <xb3rt> computer13137: you mean a webpage server?
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> synaptic
[05:45] <MUS4SHIII> Yowshi: try this: gksudo gnome-system-monitor I like the gui. Just like taskmanager.
[05:45] <xcd> so i have installed linux-rt and edited /etc/security/limits.conf to add access for the audio group. my current user is a member of the audio group, yet when i try to start JACK in realtime it can't get access to start. any ideas?
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> search for nvidia, let me know if any of the nvidia-glx packages are installed
[05:45] <computer13137> xb3rt: Maybe I misunderstood you.  I assume you have access to a Ubuntu server somewhere, and that's what you want to use for anonymous browsing?
[05:45] <connor> where do i get nvidia-glxnew
[05:45] <connor> ok
[05:46] <connor> how do i search for it again?
[05:46] <Yowshi> MUS4SHIII: the process isnt listed in the gui i looked there first darkscript no dice
[05:46] <connor> package manager?
[05:46] <darkscript> Yowshi, the firefox program uses firefox-bin as its registered name in the system
[05:46] <MUS4SHIII> :(
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> open synaptic, yep
[05:46] <Zaider> hi! is it safe to change all file ownership of root to other user?
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> and just use the search in there
[05:46] <computer13137> xb3rt: This is VERY possible by creating a socks proxy over SSH, through an encrypted tunnel.  It sounds scary but it's just one click to do in PuTTY. :P
[05:46] <xb3rt> computer13137: i just want it for firefox, and to anonymize my ip for my laptop is all
[05:46] <darkscript> Yowshi, ps -A | grep firefox
[05:46] <computer13137> xb3rt: Are you running Windows on the client PC?
[05:46] <xb3rt> computer13137: ubuntu gutsy
[05:46] <computer13137> xb3rt: ohh, OK.
[05:46] <computer13137> Hold on then let me think. :P
[05:46] <darkscript> Yowshi, killall [ps- A | grep firefox] <- return value of that
[05:46] <connor> glx new or glx new dev
[05:46] <connor> which one
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> just new
[05:47] <Zaider> is it safe to change all file ownership of root to other user?
[05:47] <connor> ok
[05:47] <foo> nikrud: yup
[05:47] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep firefox
[05:47] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ killall [ps- A | grep firefox]
[05:47] <Yowshi> [ps-: no process killed
[05:47] <Yowshi> A: no process killed
[05:47] <darkscript> no
[05:47] <computer13137> waaait
[05:47] <nikrud> foo: thanks, knowing that will someday save me some hair
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> are any of the other nvidia glx packages installed?
[05:47] <darkscript> dont write the stuff in the brack3ets Yowshi
[05:47] <computer13137> xb3rt: Ubuntu is on the laptop right?
[05:47] <unop> mEck0, I hope this does it now - http://pastebin.com/d625ef48f
[05:47] <xb3rt> computer13137: correct
[05:47] <computer13137> xb3rt: You don't have a server do you?  That's where we're miscommunicating.
[05:47] <foo> nikrud: :)
[05:47] <connor> lets hope this works :)
[05:47] <computer13137> xb3rt: I thought you meant you wanted to use your Ubuntu server as a proxy. :P
[05:47] <foo> nikrud: apparently it gets escaped by my shell and the remote shell
[05:48] <xb3rt> computer13137: i said i just want to anonymize my ip
[05:48] <Yowshi> darkscript: so what am i supposed to do
[05:48] <nikrud> makes sense indeed
[05:48] <darkscript> just use ps -A to find the name of firefox binaries and killall the name what you had Yowshi
[05:48] <computer13137> xb3rt: You might try www.findproxy.org?
[05:48] <xb3rt> computer13137: for surfing and such
[05:48] <connor> same error log :(
[05:48] <computer13137> Just find a proxy
[05:48] <computer13137> And configure firefox's proxy settings. :P
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> connor, that's because it's still using the old driver
[05:48] <connor> ?
[05:48] <unop> Yowshi, kill $(pidof firefox)  perhaps
[05:48] <connor> do i control alt backspace?
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't switch on the fly
[05:48] <akram> hi
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> that's one way
[05:48] <connor> so, restart or control alt backspace
[05:48] <xb3rt> computer13137: yea, thats basically all i wanted :-)
[05:48] <akram> can i ask something
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> CAB
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | akram
[05:49] <ubotu> akram: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:49] <darkscript> Yowshi, or just log out with ctrl alt backspace, then login again. that will kill it
[05:49] <akram> i want to speak with someone who knows phpbb
[05:49] <hexon> I use a geforce go 7300 on my dell e1505. should i download the nvidia-glx-new drivers? I already have the nvidia-glx drivers installed
[05:49] <akram> ut no one is answearing me ther
[05:49] <akram> there
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> akram, use something else, trust me, you'll thank me for it.
[05:49] <Yowshi> darkscript: firefix isnt listed in the -A thing
[05:49] <connor> nope
[05:49] <unop> Yowshi, i dont think firefix is a valid process on your system :)
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> phpbb is as secure as a sieve
[05:49] <connor> same error :(
[05:49] <darkscript> hmm
[05:49] <computer13137> unop?
[05:49] <Yowshi> bbs
[05:50] <xb3rt> computer13137: will just an HTTP proxy work or do i need one for all protocols?
[05:50] <unop> computer13137, ??
[05:50] <connor> daisuke, i got the same error
[05:50]  * darkscript agrees with unop
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[05:50] <mEck0> unop, :( Current resolution:  x No value to set for key: `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename'
[05:50] <akram> so can someone help me
[05:50] <computer13137> unop: This program also has a readme on how to make a DEB file for this.  It tells me to run a command... the command results in an error.  http://p.just-owns.eu/p/t_2101206078587.txt
[05:50] <computer13137> xb3rt: If you find a SOCKS5 proxy, it will work for any protocol.  Put it in as a SOCKS proxy and leave the other fields blank completely.
[05:50] <lastelement0> hey all, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed on my dell e1505 laptop and for some reason after a certain period of time my screen will go black but my laptop will still be on and i can't get back to my desktop
[05:51] <unop> computer13137, ok .. but that doesnt necessarily mean you have all the required packages/requirements to build this source, does it?
[05:51] <xb3rt> whats SOCKS for
[05:51] <connor> hey daisuke
[05:51] <darkscript> Yowshi, what did you do?
[05:51] <Yowshi> unop: this started immediatly after i copied the firefox folder from my sdb to my home folder
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> connor, yes?
[05:51] <computer13137> unop: The program doesn't say it has any dependencies.
[05:51] <Zaider> is it safe to change all file ownership of root to other user?
[05:51] <connor> sam eerror
[05:51] <connor> error*
[05:51] <Yowshi> grrr still freaking running somehow
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i got it
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> thinking for a moment
[05:51] <connor> what?
[05:51] <darkscript> zaider depends on the file
[05:51] <Yowshi> i click on the start firefox thing and it tells me firefox is already running
[05:51] <darkscript> Zaider, what file?
[05:51] <unop> mEck0, are you sure you got that xrandr command right -- it doesnt look that way from what you are experiencing
[05:51] <Zaider> all
[05:51] <unop> computer13137, what are you trying to build?
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> connor, what's the output of 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[05:52] <computer13137> unop: xrdp
[05:52] <connor> ?
[05:52] <xcd> so i have installed linux-rt and edited /etc/security/limits.conf to add access for the audio group. my current user is a member of the audio group, yet when i try to start JACK in realtime it can't get access to start. any ideas?
[05:52] <mEck0> unop, *checking*
[05:52] <computer13137> unop: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp/
[05:52] <connor> direct output?
[05:52] <CRINGO> lastelement0, it's probably something to do with powersaving settings or something
[05:52] <connor> whats the link for the log file thing again?
[05:52] <xb3rt> computer13137: can i PM you for a minute
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> it should say direct rendering: yes or direct rendering: no
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> just one line, you can paste that here
[05:53] <connor> all the rendering is missing
[05:53] <computer13137> xb3rt sure
[05:53] <computer13137> :P
[05:53] <darkscript> you mean chown -R 777 / Zaider
[05:53] <CRINGO> lastelement0, I've had that happen to me when the screensaver came up, wouldn't let me back, I can't remember what the problem was though
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !glx
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Yowshi> darkscript: i did what unop said to do i copied my firefox folder from ym backup on sdb to my home folder
[05:53] <connor> it says extension glx missing
[05:53] <smacky>  want to share an internet conection (coming from the usb wifi card) with the "eth0" so that my other boxes can get internet from the router attached
[05:53] <connor> for all lines
[05:53] <smacky> I  want to share an internet conection (coming from the usb wifi card) with the "eth0" so that my other boxes can get internet from the router attached
[05:53] <lastelement0> CRINGO: yeah like everything but the main power and bluetooth seems to turn off. its weird because its on but i cant do anything
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, try this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[05:54] <Zaider> chown -hR newowner /* and chown -hR newowner /.*
[05:54] <connor> wait daisuke
[05:54] <connor> the code didnt work
[05:54] <connor> go tit
[05:54] <unop> computer13137, can you use the pastebin instead of the text file you have -- its hard to read with the misformatting
[05:54] <connor> got it*
[05:54] <connor> now what daisuke?
[05:54] <unop> computer13137, pastebin your error
[05:54] <smacky> help i want to share an internet conection (coming from the usb wifi card) with the "eth0" so that my other boxes can get internet from the router attached
[05:55] <computer13137> unop: Fine. :P
[05:55] <computer13137> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:55] <CRINGO> lastelement0, when you get the chance, go to screen saver and do a test and see if you can get back, if not, then it's that, and you can ask from there
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> do you see anything there that says "nvidia"?
[05:55] <mEck0> unop, it looks like this now: http://pastebin.com/d2dd86920 , and I'm getting the following error: Current resolution:  x
[05:55] <mEck0> No value to set for key: `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename'
[05:55] <connor> nv
[05:55] <connor> yes nv
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> not the same thing
[05:55] <connor> >_>
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it's still using the old driver
[05:55] <computer13137> ndop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60379/
[05:55] <CRINGO> lastelement0, you can check your power saving options there too
[05:55] <darkscript> Zaider, no bad idea..that will screw up like verything in your system..root needs access to most of the stuff in / what you can do
[05:55] <connor> nope
[05:55] <connor> what now?
[05:55] <darkscript> is chmod -R 777 / but... i still would not recommend that Zaider
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> connor: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:56] <CRINGO> lastelement0, I had a dell laptop and it did that to me, but f me if i can remember what i did to fix it
[05:56] <darkscript> Zaider, but it wont screw you over in the end
[05:56] <connor> now waht
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> oy
[05:56] <Zaider> ok thanks
[05:56] <darkscript> Zaider, you just have less security than an unpatched xp box
[05:56] <Flannel> !danget | Zaider
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about danget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <alwrwr2003> hi
[05:56] <Flannel> !danger | Zaider
[05:56] <ubotu> Zaider: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[05:57] <alwrwr2003> SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library.
[05:57] <alwrwr2003> ?????
[05:57] <lastelement0> CRINGO: thanks ill prob just have like one of the options active to see if i can narrow it down/find a way to get it to come back
[05:57] <alwrwr2003> how i can install SSL
[05:57] <smacky> i want to share an internet conection (coming from the usb wifi card) with the "eth0" so that my other boxes can get internet from the router attached ?
[05:57] <darkscript> he asked ubotu.. it does not screw you over
[05:57] <darkscript> i warned him too
[05:57] <CRINGO> lastelement0, yep
[05:57] <mEck0> unop, in the url above, a C is missing in my script, this is fixed now, and I'm getting: Current resolution:  x x No value to set for key: `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename'
[05:57] <mEck0> unop, a C in the beginning...
[05:57] <Zaider> sorry
[05:57] <CRINGO> lastelement0, you could probably find something in the forums specific to your problem based on the model though
[05:57] <Flannel> darkscript: That doesn't mean you should tell him.  Protect people from their ignorance.  They don't know how Linux works, and don't understand how it's different.  Educate, instead of completely breaking.
[05:58] <unop> mEck0, ok, just a sec
[05:58] <Yowshi> whats this command we aint supposed to run?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Yowshi, someone told him to chmod -R 777 /
[05:58] <Yowshi> oh the chmod thing
[05:58] <hexon> my geforce go 7300 card works fine with the nvidia-glx drivers installed. Should I download the nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> a spectacularly bad idea :\
[05:58] <Flannel> Daisuke_Ido: No need to repeat it
[05:58] <wolfsong> how do I add a device with a space in the volume name & reload fstab?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Flannel, apologies
[05:59] <Yowshi> Daisuke_Ido: LOL that would SCREW you over so fast. i know after experiencing that. thats why i had ro reinstall permission problems
[05:59] <darkscript> flannel understandable indeed. but still not too bad of an idea in my book..the likely hood of him running into trouble isn't that great
[05:59] <darkscript> IF he is behind a firewall
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> not a bad idea?
[05:59] <darkscript> i do believe he deserves a fair choise
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> are you drunk or high?
[05:59] <Flannel> darkscript: No, its not just behind a firewall issue.  Some important things WILL NOT work like that.
[05:59] <darkscript> tell me whats bad about it and i'll give you the counter argument
[05:59] <darkscript> really? i've had it work fine
[05:59] <Flannel> darkscript: Lets take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, since it's offtopic
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> darkscript, here's what's bad, it breaks things, and it's not the way things are done around here.
[06:00] <nikrud> darkscript: a very good idea, go learn why it breaks stuff (not least sudo)
[06:00] <andrew[andrboot]> Hi, i am wondering if anyone can help me getting DRI enabled and Dual Screen support on a ATI HD3850 ?
[06:00] <smacky> help plz
[06:01] <smacky> i want to share an internet conection (coming from the usb wifi card) with the "eth0" so that my other boxes can get internet from the router attached
[06:01] <alwrwr2003> how can i install SSL.....thes msg come up to me when i install pdgin"SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library."
[06:02] <morbid> hi guys... So far I was using KDE, and now I am looking for some equavalent programs for GNOME, for example, Kdevelop, and kooldock
[06:02] <morbid> you have any idea?
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> see, i don't know if conner's going to come back to let me know if it worked, or if it crashed or what...  he was just driving and insistent that i have the answers *right now*... :\
[06:04] <xcd> so i have installed linux-rt and edited /etc/security/limits.conf to add access for the audio group. my current user is a member of the audio group, yet when i try to start JACK in realtime it can't get access to start. any ideas?
[06:05] <Rasu> Hi, quick question. I messed around about with ALSA in Synaptic and it removed GDM/ubuntu-desktop. I reinstalled them, but, I notice that gnome isn't selected, is that normal?
[06:06] <unop> mEck0, I tried this -- it seems to work -- despite the difference in resolution between my screen and yours - http://pastebin.com/d7221ba08
[06:06] <alwrwr2003> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey help me i want to open my MSN on pdgin
[06:06] <wookienz> hi i have justed installed a LAMP server. Im trying to ftp in which ic an do, i can copy from lamp server but cant write to it. where do i find permissons to allow proftpd  to allow incoming files?
[06:08] <Yowshi> heh even after uninstalling firefox those firefox processes still persist
[06:08] <Nasra> yup that is a good question:
[06:08] <unop> mEck0, this should work even if your resolutions change from those values you hardcoded - http://pastebin.com/d724ca316
[06:08] <Nasra> how do I open my msn or skype?
[06:08] <unop> Yowshi, killall -9 firefox-bin
[06:08] <Stroganoff> Yowshi: killall firefox-bin
[06:09] <mEck0> unop, thx, *testing*
[06:09] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ killall -9 firefox-bin
[06:09] <Yowshi> firefox-bin: no process killed
[06:09] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ ps x |grep firefox
[06:09] <Yowshi> 18512 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox
[06:09] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ ps x |grep firefox-bin
[06:09] <Yowshi> 18845 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox-bin
[06:09] <FloodBot2> Yowshi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <alwrwr2003> Nasra: you can use Pidgin
[06:10] <noble-> kill -9 pid#
[06:10] <Yowshi> noble i tried that
[06:10] <unop> Yowshi, firefox is not running there
[06:10] <Rasu> So, can anyone tell me if it's normal that gnome isn't a selected package in synaptic?
[06:10] <Nasra> I can use Pidgin
[06:10] <Yowshi> except unop when i try to startt firefox it sasys it is
[06:11] <Nasra> where will I find it Pidgin alwrwr2003?
[06:11] <CVD-PR> Hey when i created a image.toc cd image the final name is image.bin .  is this is right?  .bin dont have a .cue also?
[06:11] <Nasra> have to install it
[06:11] <unop> Yowshi, it might be the firefox lockfile still remaining in your old firefox folder
[06:11] <gimpyj> whats poppin tonite
[06:12] <Yowshi> lockfile?
[06:12] <kindofabuzz> 2 partitions, one is /home and the other, /.  i try to umount / to make an image with partimage but says device is busy
[06:12] <CVD-PR> ?
[06:13] <unop> Yowshi, try this -- mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox_bakl; firefox
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> can i even umount /?
[06:13] <gimpyj> where do i find some free shit?
[06:13] <tritium> !language | gimpyj
[06:13] <ubotu> gimpyj: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> getdeb.org
[06:13] <unop> kindofabuzz, you cannot unmount /
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> how would i make an image of it then?
[06:13] <maxagaz> how to edit a gif animation ? or watch it slowly ?
[06:14] <gimpyj> lol
[06:14] <nikrud> gimpyj: and system->admin->synaptic has more free stuff than you can shake a stick at
[06:14] <unop> kindofabuzz, it needs to be done offline
[06:14] <gimpyj> my bad where is the free stuff?
[06:14] <Yowshi> that worked
[06:14] <kindofabuzz> i guess i can use systemrescuedisk
[06:14] <DOOM_NX> sudo reboot is the same as restart?
[06:14] <kindofabuzz> but, doesn't that store the image in memory?
[06:14] <mortallibre> hai! are there free ubuntu books i can read?
[06:14] <Yowshi> great but that means i cant use the restore thing and get all those windows back
[06:14] <gimpyj> where?
[06:14] <nikrud> gimpyj: system->admin->synaptic
[06:15] <unop> kindofabuzz, what kind of image are you making?
[06:15] <gimpyj> who system folder?
[06:15] <unop> Yowshi, what restore thing?
[06:15] <gimpyj> whos*
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> an image of the partition
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> for backup reasons
[06:15] <unop> kindofabuzz, what kind of image?
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> i want all of /
[06:15] <Riotblade> Hey, when X throws out: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." does that mean I didn't install it correctly or does it mean I need to further configure it?
[06:16] <Yowshi> unop: the restore thing where you can have it reopen all the tabs / windows that were open before being forced to close firefox
[06:16] <Yowshi> unop: when you have to kill firefox you can restore session or start from new
[06:16] <wolfsong> how do I add a device with a space in the volume name & reload fstab?
[06:16] <Yowshi> i take pains to make sure i always get to restore
[06:17] <unop> Yowshi, that's really not how you should use firefox eh -- check out the tabsession extension for things like that
[06:17] <Yowshi> tabsession what?
[06:17]  * Yowshi sighs
[06:17] <kindofabuzz> best forums in the world are the firefox forums, forums.mozillazine.org
[06:17] <bobbo85> hi again, I have a windows drive that I just added for extra space, and I just can't get it to mount unless I'm root.  So the first time I mounted, I used the terminal mount -t command with -o force.  The "New Volume" icon is mounted in Computer, but users could not mount or umount it.  I checked fstab file and added the new partition and mount point in "/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1" with the umask=007 and users option.  This got
[06:17] <bobbo85>  it so I could Unmount the drive as a user, but still could not mount... so I made sure to change the permissions on the folder /media/hdb1 to 770.  Still no luck... and I noticed that the icon "New Volume" in "computer" has "unknown" for owner and group under properties and permissions.  Why doesn't it have an owner?  Think that's the issue?
[06:17] <wookienz> having installed my ubuntu lamp server the /var/www dir is owned by root and thus i cant ftp in as a user and transfer files to that dir. how can i let the onlyuser i have added to the lamp server upload files to that dir?
[06:18] <unop> Yowshi, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=session&status=4
[06:19] <Yowshi> unop: that doesnt help me now though. i had like 2 dozen pages i WILL NEVER be able to find again that i wasnt finished with
[06:19] <CVD-PR> Hey .toc = .bin?
[06:19] <unop> Yowshi, relax, they're still available in ~/.mozilla/firefox_bak
[06:19] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865
[06:19] <r00723r0> How do I turn off the manually installed flag in APT?
[06:19] <Yowshi> not that i know how to access them
[06:20] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865
[06:20] <CVD-PR> ?
[06:20] <nikrud> r00723r0: what's the issue?
[06:21] <r00723r0> I just accidentally set an installed library to manually installed.
[06:21] <nikrud> r00723r0: how did you do that? I'm not following your terminolgy
[06:22] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e86
[06:22] <unop> Yowshi, try this -- rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default; cp -R ~/.mozilla/firefox_bak/*.default ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[06:22] <rhineheart_m> Hello.. I'm using gutsy. My sites are running well. I just want to ask this concern. My sites are running in LAMP.  When I tried to do sudo apt-get upgrade this appear in the console: The following packages will be upgraded:  libmysqlclient15-dev libmysqlclient15off mysql-client mysql-client-5.0   mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 unzip 8 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and...
[06:22] <rhineheart_m> ...0 not upgraded. Need to get 43.5MB of archives. After unpacking 16.4kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?. NOW.. is it alright to go ahead?
[06:22] <r00723r0> nikrud, when you install a program, the libraries it comes with are set to automatically installed - which means they'll be removed on autoremove. However, the package that pulls in the libraries is set as manually installed, so it won't be removed on autoremove.
[06:23] <unop> Yowshi, actually close firefox before you do that
[06:23] <nikrud> rhineheart_m: yes
[06:23] <e_r_c_e> hello
[06:23] <rhineheart_m> nikrud: won't it harm my existing database?
[06:23] <nikrud> r00723r0: oh, you mean with aptitude
[06:23] <e_r_c_e> i need help with (u)mounting
[06:23] <r00723r0> nikrud, aye.
[06:23] <nikrud> rhineheart_m: no, you won't even see a hickup
[06:23] <e_r_c_e> i mounted disk "sda1" to /media/usb_d
[06:23] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default; cp -R ~/.mozilla/firefox_bak/*.default ~/.mozilla/firefox/cp: cannot stat `/home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bak/*.default': No such file or directory
[06:23] <rhineheart_m> nikrud: do you have an idea about this release?
[06:23] <nonix4> hummm... _unauthenticated_ unzip 5.52-10ubuntu1.1 update available? wtf?
[06:23] <e_r_c_e> and now i typed umount /media/usb_D
[06:23] <nikrud> r00723r0: me, I'd fire up  aptitude in interactive mode, and .. a sec while I remember :)
[06:24] <e_r_c_e> and now i typed umount /media/usb_d**
[06:24] <e_r_c_e> and...
[06:24] <Yowshi> yopu could just ask me to rm a file and copy another one over
[06:24] <Yowshi> i do know those commands...kind of anyway
[06:24] <e_r_c_e> my disk is still on my desktop and applet shows it's mounted...???
[06:24] <nikrud> r00723r0: M marks automatic, m marks manual
[06:24] <r00723r0> nikrud, how do I change this?
[06:24] <unop> !who | Yowshi
[06:24] <ubotu> Yowshi: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:25] <unop> Yowshi, run this -- ls ~/.mozilla/*firefox*
[06:25] <nikrud> rhineheart_m: the quality? Take a look at the changelog. say no, and look at the packages in synaptic, you can see it there
[06:25] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865
[06:25] <e_r_c_e> HELP
[06:25] <e_r_c_e> PLEASE
[06:25] <Yowshi> unop i got /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox:
[06:25] <Yowshi> pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini
[06:25] <Yowshi> /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl:
[06:25] <Yowshi> 492zzuq5.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini  sv407co6.default
[06:26] <nikrud> r00723r0:  run   sudo aptitude  , do /<packagename> , it'll hightlight.  hit   M (shift-M) to mark it as automatic
[06:26] <gligorhoria> !aptitude
[06:26] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[06:26] <Yowshi> i like aptitude i kind of feel cheated or something with synaptic
[06:27] <nikrud> that factoid is out of date now. (me wrote that guide ;)
[06:27] <unop> Yowshi, strange -- how about ~/.mozilla/firefox_*
[06:27] <e_r_c_e> HELP FROM ALL PLEASE?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!!?!?
[06:27] <nikrud> apt-get has autoremove , handles removing unused packaes
[06:27] <unop> Yowshi, ls -1 ~/.mozilla/firefox_*
[06:27] <eisenhower> hey i need help.  i just tried running the live ubuntu 7.10 64bit cd and it took over 10 minutes just to get to a screen and never went anywhere after words. any idea why it would do that?
[06:27] <tritium> !ask | e_r_c_e
[06:27] <ubotu> e_r_c_e: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:27] <rhineheart_m> e_r_c_e: please don't shout..
[06:28] <Yowshi> yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ ls ~/.mozilla/firefox_*
[06:28] <Yowshi> 492zzuq5.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini  sv407co6.default    unop
[06:28] <Yowshi> unop added for the name thing
[06:28] <gligorhoria> !eisenhower what are your system specs?
[06:28] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: I read back, probably the reason you got missed is your question is scattered all over. Don't use enter as punctuation. And, try  sudo umount
[06:28] <e_r_c_e>  i mounted disk "sda1" to /media/usb_d  and now i typed umount /media/usb_d, and my applet shows that disc is still mounted??
[06:28] <unop> Yowshi, i need a tea -- be back in 2
[06:28] <e_r_c_e> i did
[06:28] <Yowshi> cool unop i need a smoke
[06:28] <e_r_c_e> i used sudo
[06:28] <eisenhower> Gligorhoria: dell m1330  . t8300 2.5ghz,  4gb ram, 200gb hd.
[06:28] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: what applet?
[06:29] <eisenhower> 128 nvidia 8400m * ?
[06:29] <e_r_c_e> disk mount
[06:29] <e_r_c_e> nikrud, i used sudo, else you can't mount/dismount
[06:29] <e_r_c_e> XD
[06:29] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: does   mount  | sort show the partition as mounted
[06:29] <eisenhower> should i be running the 32bit version?  b/c i'm really wanting to get 4gb of ram utilized
[06:29] <gligorhoria> eisenhower it is saied that live cd-s are 7 times slower than normal one, anyway try a 32 bites insted, see if it works (i think it should!)
[06:30] <tritium> eisenhower: no, you should be fine with the 32-bit
[06:30] <spartan7> getting error failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-PnkYkF75L1- connection refused. can anyone help?
[06:30] <eisenhower> tritium: does the 4gb of ram get fully used in 32bit thoug?
[06:30] <e_r_c_e> sda1 supose not to be mounted...
[06:30] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: then the applet is wrong
[06:30] <tritium> eisenhower: I've heard otherwise, but it should get used.
[06:30] <e_r_c_e> and link on desktop?
[06:31] <eisenhower> mhm. alright well i'll give it one more try then try the 32bit
[06:31] <pulpfiction> how do i search on the repos? using apt-get search is not valid and i couldn't find any info on man
[06:31] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: does it show as mounted in the output of    mount   ?
[06:31] <rhineheart_m> Is there a bandwidth meter that could be done in the console...by which you could still do even if you're remotely connected to the box?
[06:31] <eisenhower> thanks for the help guys
[06:31] <spartan7> getting error failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-PnkYkF75L1- connection refused. can anyone help?
[06:31] <tritium> eisenhower: http://www.linux.com/feature/119287
[06:31] <e_r_c_e> nikrud, yes, it did
[06:31] <tritium> pulpfiction: apt-cache search
[06:31] <pulpfiction> ok
[06:31] <e_r_c_e> but now i typed umount /media/usb_d
[06:32] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: do you have a terminal open somewhere under /media/usb_d ?
[06:32] <e_r_c_e> nope
[06:32] <gligorhoria> eisenhower yes but u see this in not windows u don't need 64 bites to get 4+ gb of ram! u cna just aply a pach :D when compiling the kernel u have a seting that will ask about the size of the ram ( the standard is 4 gb)
[06:33] <eisenhower> oh. so then what should i do? i'm totally new to ubuntu
[06:33] <eisenhower> absolutely*
[06:33] <wolfsong> nikrud: do you know how I should add a device with a space in the volume name & reload fstab?
[06:33] <e_r_c_e> nikrud, i already typed to umount so place /media/usb_d exist, but it's empty
[06:33] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: what output does    sudo umount /media/usb_d  give ?
[06:33] <gligorhoria> eisenhower just use the basic 32 live cd, it should be fine
[06:33] <unop> Yowshi, shout out when you're back
[06:33] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: that's normal
[06:33] <eisenhower> lol kay
[06:33] <e_r_c_e> edy@edubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/usb_d
[06:33] <e_r_c_e> umount: /media/usb_d: not mounted
[06:33] <e_r_c_e> edy@edubuntu:~$
[06:33] <Yowshi> unop:  back
[06:33] <tritium> !enter | e_r_c_e
[06:33] <ubotu> e_r_c_e: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:33] <icesword> ...
[06:33] <nikrud> wolfsong:  use  word1\ word2  to handle spaces
[06:34] <e_r_c_e> damn, i'm in xchat, so it does auto enter, that was paste
[06:34] <gligorhoria> use pastebin.com
[06:34] <Razvan25> icechat for windows i recommand, freeware 100%
[06:34] <nikrud> e_r_c_e: then thats correct. you still have the dir /media/usb_d , it's existence is required for mount to have a place to put the partition.
[06:35] <spartan7> how do you post screenshots ?
[06:35] <wolfsong> nikrud: thanks...what's the command to reload fstab?
[06:35] <nikrud> wolfsong:   sudo mount -a
[06:35] <Razvan25> gtg to a cigarette
[06:35] <gligorhoria> did any 1 loock at my kernell bug? at paste bin, here i will post it again
[06:35] <Yowshi> unop:  back
[06:35] <gligorhoria> http://pastebin.com/m67e5e865
[06:35] <unop> Yowshi, ok close firefox and run this -- cp -R ~/.mozilla/firefox_*/*.default/* ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/
[06:35] <lirit> i have a laptop, how can i display it with an external monitor?
[06:35] <unop> Yowshi, and then try opening firefox up again
[06:36] <Yowshi> cp target doesnt exist
[06:36] <Yowshi> unop:  cp: target `/home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox/*default/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[06:36] <unop> Yowshi, verify it exists - ls -d ~/.mozilla/firefox_*/*default/
[06:37] <nikrud> gligorhoria: you mean the typo in the last line? That I understand ;)
[06:37] <wolfsong> i'm getting a msg that "/dev/sdb1 /media/GoBox\ I ntfs-3g defaults, force 0 0" is bad
[06:37] <bobbo85> I can't mount my new drive without using sudo...  when I try, I get this:  "Error opening partition device: Perission denied"
[06:37] <Yowshi> that spits out two entries unop
[06:37] <unop> Yowshi, what are they?
[06:37] <bobbo85> Any ideas?
[06:37] <nikrud> wolfsong: what's the exact error?
[06:37] <Yowshi> unop:  /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/492zzuq5.default/  /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/sv407co6.default/
[06:38] <NeoGeo64> what will make the next ubuntu better
[06:38] <NeoGeo64> than 7.10
[06:38] <wolfsong> line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad
[06:38] <bobbo85> Strange thing is, if I mount with sudo mount -a, then go back to the user, I can unmount the drive... I just can't mount it back!  help plz:-(
[06:38] <nikrud> bobbo85: that's correct
[06:38] <nanobug> oh nice
[06:38] <mykx> hello a friend of mine is recieving an error "unable to mount root fs on unkown-block" and is unsure of the cause/solution to this error"
[06:38] <nanobug> hardy beta is out today
[06:38] <nanobug> sweet titties.
[06:39] <unop> Yowshi, err ... close firefox -- rm -rf /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox; cp -R home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox
[06:39] <nikrud> wolfsong: no space after the comma
[06:39] <tritium> !language | nanobug
[06:39] <ubotu> nanobug: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:39] <nanobug> lol my bad.
[06:39] <Yowshi> why does the ubuntu kernel cycle every 6 months anyway. i dont fully understand why they release a new version every 6 monthds
[06:39] <amidaniel> Having some issues with desktop effects in gutsy. Have the compiz settings manager thingy installed ... when I change my effects settings from None to Custom, however, it consistently reverts back to "Normal"
[06:39] <wolfsong> nikrud: after defaults?
[06:39] <mykx> full error = Kernel panic - n ot syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unkown-block then(104,1)
[06:39] <tritium> Yowshi: they follow the gnome release schedule
[06:39] <nikrud> wolfsong: yes
[06:39] <Yowshi> unop: i havent opened firefox since you told me to close it the first time
[06:40] <unop> Yowshi, ok run the command anyhow
[06:40] <unop> s/how/way/
[06:40] <Yowshi> unop:  cp: cannot stat `home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl': No such file or directory
[06:40] <unop> Yowshi, err ... my bad -- rm -rf /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox; cp -R /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox
[06:40] <bobbo85> nikrud what do you think I should do?
[06:41] <mykx> any ubuntu irc channel where I can go to for support.. ?
[06:41] <tritium> mykx: here
[06:41] <mykx> hrmm let me paste it again
[06:41] <Yowshi> permission denied this ti,me even after trying with sudo
[06:41] <mykx> my friend is recieving an error "full error = Kernel panic - n ot syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unkown-block then(104,1)" any idea of the cause/solution ?
[06:41] <Yowshi> unop:  cp: cannot access `/home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/sv407co6.default': Permission denied
[06:42] <Yowshi> unop i did try with sudo
[06:42] <jnkq> how to list all the channels in this IRC server?
[06:42] <unop> what??
[06:42] <nikrud> bobbo85: what's in your fstab line?
[06:43] <Yowshi> unop that file is owned by root. probably the root from the last installation which means no access
[06:43] <unop> Yowshi, gawd -- :/ --  sudo chown -R $USER;$USER /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/sv407co6.default   and then run the command again
[06:43] <Razvan25> i want to install compiz for ubuntu 7.10 without messing my update manager, can someone give me a complete tutorial for newbie ?
[06:43] <tritium> Razvan25: it's installed already
[06:43] <nikrud> Razvan25: what video chip?
[06:44] <Yowshi> unop:   yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ sudo chown -R $USER;$USER /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/sv407co6.default
[06:44] <Yowshi> chown: missing operand after `yoshi'
[06:44] <Razvan25> intel 950
[06:44] <bobbo85> nikrud, there are two lines:    # /dev/hdb1   (new line)     UUID=384C059C4C055652 /media/hdb1    ntfs  defaults,umask=007,gid=46,users          0       0
[06:44] <Razvan25> tritium i want cude :)
[06:44] <tritium> Razvan25: what's cude?
[06:44] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Hey, can anyone help me with this error?
[06:44] <unop> Yowshi, my bad again --  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/yoshi/.mozilla/firefox_bakl/sv407co6.default
[06:44] <Razvan25> wait, i will give you a youtube link
[06:45] <bobbo85> nikrud, I originally didn't have that UUID in there, just the /dev/hdb1 part, but I saw that all the other entries had that pattern of commenting out the location so I went with it
[06:45] <tritium> Razvan25: I'm telling you, compiz-fusion is installed by default.  You just now have to enable more desktop effects.  You need to read your help system, buddy.  It tells you how.
[06:45] <Yowshi> boooyeah thank you very very much unop
[06:45] <xenthro> im learning bash. is there a command for "go to next file in directory" ?
[06:45] <unop> Yowshi, working now?
[06:45] <spartan7_> guys I am really lost Im getting an error as soon as i launch ubuntu regarding a socket
[06:45] <spartan7_> getting error failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-PnkYkF75L1- connection refused. can anyone help?
[06:45] <unop> xenthro, what do you mean?
[06:46] <tritium> Razvan25: see the little ? icon next to the icon for evolution on your menubar?  Click that, and select "Enabling desktop effects"
[06:46] <Yowshi> unop yeah except i have to redownload every addon now
[06:46] <Yowshi> unop: oh wait no it just seemed that way
[06:46] <unop> Yowshi, errm, you shouldnt have to -- but anyway
[06:46] <nikrud> bobbo85: that's correct. users only allows people to unmount. you need to add user to allow anyone to mount
[06:46] <Razvan25> hmm...so without installing anything else i will able to have cube 3d ?
[06:47] <tritium> Razvan25: you'll have to install one package to be able to configure more features, but that's it.  it's in the help
[06:47] <Razvan25> just with an updated ubuntu ?
[06:47] <tritium> Razvan25: read it ;)
[06:47] <xenthro> unop im creating a simple mp3 playlist script. its supposed to be something like this: mpg123 1st file && mpg123 2nd file etc.
[06:47] <bobbo85> There's one strange thing though, another partition in fstab has everything identical except it doesn't have "users" in its option... and that drive i can mount and umnount
[06:47] <wolfsong> nikrud: no longer getting error but drive isn't showing up...renamed volume to just GoBox & adjusted fstab accordingly
[06:47] <Yowshi> unop: i just hope the rest of my programmes arent this hard. my evolution in particular
[06:47] <Razvan25> i will read the help, right now i am using windows on my laptop:)
[06:48] <gligorhoria> j
[06:48] <Dog> Is the upgrade procedure the same for Ubuntu Server as it is in the desktop versions?
[06:48] <unop> xenthro, for i in /path/to/*; do mpg123 $i; done
[06:48] <bobbo85> nikrud do you think that the reason the other drive works is that maybe the first person who mounted it was a user and not the root?
[06:48] <ethan961> Razvan25, the ubuntu wiki might be of use as well.
[06:48] <tritium> Razvan25: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour describes the default install.
[06:48] <nikrud> wolfsong: I never use spaces either. They always bite me in the end. Another one tonight was a guy that had to do \\[space] to get ssh to work with spaces
[06:48] <Yowshi> unop: so what exactly did the lines of code do exactly, so if i run into this again i have half o a chance of solving it myself
[06:49] <xenthro> unop thanks, ill try to figure out what you wrote :)
[06:49] <ZeZu> gcc seems to have some issues on 7.10 x64
[06:49] <ZeZu> it works fine,but the errors/warnings variable names are always screwed up
[06:49] <Razvan25> i want to install ubuntu on my laptop although i have xp license but...i can`t connect to my wireless router using live ubuntu :(
[06:49] <ZeZu> ie: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âs8â
[06:49] <wolfsong> nikrud: the drive isn't showing w/o spaces though
[06:49] <tritium> Razvan25: which chipset?
[06:49] <pulpfiction> if i installed ubuntu in portuguese (and therefore, it already created the desktop folder as "Area de Trabalho", which is desktop in portuguese), if i now want to use my ubuntu in english, will it correctly use a folder named Desktop? if not, how can i do that?
[06:50] <nikrud> bobbo85: I refreshed my memory from man mount , I typed /user which searched for the relevant stuff
[06:50] <unop> Yowshi, well, basically what i did was create a backup of your ~/.mozilla/firefox directory -- restart firefox and copy it back to get rid of "another instance of firefox running.."
[06:50] <Razvan25> don`t know Asus A6U is my laptop model, how can i find the chipset?
[06:50] <Razvan25> it might be a broadcom...
[06:50] <nikrud> wolfsong: what does it say when you type   sudo  mount /path/to/mountpoint
[06:50] <tritium> Razvan25: not sure in windows.  In the livecd,
[06:50] <tritium> "lspci" or lshw
[06:51] <[RYF]Reject_sM> How do you install ubuntu if it doesnt see and partitions?
[06:51] <[RYF]Reject_sM> any^
[06:51] <ZeZu> I can't find anything about this on forums, anyone know what might cause this ?
[06:51] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM,  are you in a live CD session now?
[06:51] <wolfsong> nikrud: duh...now it sees it...thanks
[06:52] <[RYF]Reject_sM> umm
[06:52] <ethan961> Razvan25, broadcom take a tad more work to get going, you need to download a driver
[06:52] <[RYF]Reject_sM> im assuming so.
[06:52] <[RYF]Reject_sM> i went through some steps
[06:52] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, what i mean is -- are you trying to install ubuntu after having booted the CD
[06:52] <unop> ?
[06:52] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Yes.
[06:52] <tritium> !wireless | Razvan25
[06:52] <ubotu> Razvan25: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:52] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Its in a blue screen menu.
[06:52] <tritium> Razvan25: there's some info for you above
[06:52] <Razvan25> i check now asus website to see if it gives me a linux driver
[06:53] <[RYF]Reject_sM> I have two cd's
[06:53] <[RYF]Reject_sM> ones the alternate pc one
[06:53] <[RYF]Reject_sM> and the other one is the 7.10 gui boot i think, but that ended up giving me problems
[06:53] <[RYF]Reject_sM> it gave me a error saying "Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unkown-block then(104,1)"
[06:53] <ethan961> Razvan25, the ASUS site will not likely have drivers. Use the wifidocs link avlbove.
[06:53] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, hmm -- open up a terminal - from the menu -applications -accessories - terminal -- and type this command out -- fdisk -l  --  does that return anyting>
[06:53] <unop> ?
[06:54] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Hold on how to a do that?
[06:54] <Razvan25> ok, i`m reading it
[06:54] <[RYF]Reject_sM> I'm going to reboot the system with the alternate destop disk in
[06:54] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Hold on.
[06:54] <pulpfiction> i'm trying to run eclipse
[06:54] <pulpfiction> which java package should i install?
[06:54] <nikrud> pulpfiction: sun-java6-jre
[06:55] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, hmm, the alternate CD requires different instructions -- let us know when you are in the install
[06:56] <[RYF]Reject_sM> I just selected the first command for the 7.10 alternate cd.
[06:56] <Yowshi> whats the extension on an evolution backup file.
[06:56] <bobbo85> nikrud, i think i have an idea - i just tried unmounting the other drive and don't have permission to do so... I'm thinking that the gid=46 or maybe something in defaults are keeping me from mounting/unmounting
[06:56] <tich> what is the best app for managing photos? --i tried f-spot but it always crashes.
[06:56] <pulpfiction> ok, thanks nikrud .. no need to be jdk?
[06:57] <nikrud> bobbo85: that simply determines what is listed as the group after it's mounted
[06:57] <[RYF]Reject_sM> What do i do next unop
[06:57] <nikrud> pulpfiction: no, just the runtime
[06:57] <Dog> Is the upgrade procedure the same for Ubuntu Server as it is in the desktop versions? Can't do update-manager -d, obviously
[06:57] <unop> Yowshi, evolution stores stuff in ~/.evolution -- you could just copy that folder from your old $HOME into the new one
[06:57] <pulpfiction> nikr: not that i doubt your word, but why?
[06:57] <[RYF]Reject_sM> I got to the keyboard layout
[06:57] <pulpfiction> nikrud:
[06:57] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Should I let it detect it?
[06:58] <pulpfiction> does it have its own compiler?
[06:58] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, try and keep going -- let us know when you see the error again
[06:58] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Okay.
[06:58] <nikrud> pulpfiction: hm, I don't use eclipse for writing java code. You just mentioned running eclipse, not doing java development
[06:58] <Yowshi> yeah unop ni tried that only it didnt store the stuff like my mailbox server or passwords there
[06:59] <aril> dtt
[06:59] <tich> are there any alternatives to f-spot?
[06:59] <unop> Yowshi, errm, it should do -- are you sure you copied the folder over correctly?
[06:59] <Yowshi> and when i did it and then ran evolution for the first time it still went into the strtup wizard
[06:59] <Yowshi> hmmmm thats a hard one unop copy .evolution from one window into another
[07:00] <Razvan25> loading live cd, see ya later
[07:00] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Quick question.
[07:00] <bobbo85> nikrud, the group in permissions is "plugdev" which I can't even find in my "user settings" window, think that's what it could be?  Should I a)make a group called "plugdev" and add my user to it,  or b)change the ownership of the drive with chown root:users (instead of root:plugdev)?
[07:00] <[RYF]Reject_sM> If i select the hostname mto be MShome
[07:00] <unop> Yowshi, it might be better to do it like this -- cp -R /oldpath/to/.evolution/ ~/.evolution/
[07:00] <[RYF]Reject_sM> would it network to my windows PC?
[07:00] <nikrud> Yowshi: you have to get the evolution stuff out of gconf for the account settings, ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:00] <[RYF]Reject_sM> or is that the computer name?
[07:00] <pulpfiction> nikrud: ok, but do you know if i need the jdk for developing java code?
[07:01] <[1]TheDarkBGM> hey guys
[07:01] <nikrud> bobbo85: try   groups   in a terminal, the first user created by the installer is in that group by default
[07:01] <ompaul> NOTE: HI there I AM ABOUT TO REMOVE A LOT OF BANS  THIS WILL CAUSE SOME SCROLLING -- PLEASE WAIT A FEW SECONDS SO YOUR TEXT IS NOT LOST IN THE SCROLL thank you
[07:01] <Yowshi> well nikrud i am screwed for that then cause i didnt know that before i formatted everything but the /home partition
[07:01] <unop> Yowshi, just a sec
[07:01] <administrator> How to I reload all my alsa modules ?
[07:01] <Dog> oh holy crap spam
[07:02] <ompaul> that is it
[07:02] <nikrud> pulpfiction: I would make a guess in that direction, I don't do java development
[07:02] <ompaul> FINISHED - sorry about that
[07:02] <ompaul> but we needed to do that
[07:02] <[RYF]Reject_sM> It says that no disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive you can select it.
[07:02] <unop> Yowshi,  cp -R /oldpath/to/.evolution/ ~/.evolution/; cp -R /oldpath/to/.gconf/ ~/.gconf/
[07:02] <bobbo85> nikrud that's wild - why can i see plugdev in the terminal but not the "user settings" window?
[07:03] <spartan7_> getting error failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-PnkYkF75L1- connection refused. can anyone help?
[07:03] <pulpfiction> nikrud: what developing do you do?
[07:03] <administrator> is there a way i can remove all drivers remotely connected to my soundcare
[07:03] <administrator> *card
[07:03] <nikrud> bobbo85: you're right, it's not there. I'd never looked
[07:03] <administrator> and then reinstall them
[07:04] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Does anyone know what I should do at this step
[07:04] <[RYF]Reject_sM> ?
[07:04] <nikrud> pulpfiction: just php  & html these days, I like the pdt plugin for php
[07:04] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, what kind of a disk is it?
[07:04] <wookienz> hi, i have installed proftpd on my ubuntu LAMP server. How do i change the permissions of the default /var/www dir so my only ubuntu user can ftp in and add and remove files?
[07:05] <[RYF]Reject_sM> CD drive or HD drive
[07:05] <[RYF]Reject_sM> ?
[07:05] <nikrud> bobbo85: I'm sorry, but I've got to go, it's midnight here and I work tomorrow.
[07:05] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, HDD
[07:05] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Its an IDE
[07:05] <[RYF]Reject_sM> do i need brand?
[07:05] <ompaul> Rym, it would be better if you did not change your nick like that -- you should remove the card, either in the bios and then in the physical sense, this will stop the driver from being loaded on the next reboot - this is not windows and drivers are chosen by the system
[07:05] <bobbo85> ok nikrud thanks for your time you've been great
[07:05] <ompaul> !sound | Rym
[07:05] <ubotu> Rym: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:06] <unop> [RYF]Reject_sM, usually you shouldn't -- are you sure the disk was working earlier? did you make any changes to the BIOS?
[07:06] <jnkq> bye
[07:06] <Rym> ompaul: itś onboard
[07:06] <[RYF]Reject_sM> Nope.
[07:06] <ompaul> Rym, in the bios - as I said already
[07:06] <Rym> hmmkay
[07:06] <Rym> im not sure if i can stop it from loading
[07:06] <Rym> cant remember seeing it, but ill check.,
[07:07] <Rym> though alsamixer is chosen
[07:07] <Yowshi> unop it is still trying to run the fragging accoutn it made when the wizard ran
[07:07] <[RYF]Reject_sM> I'm going to put in a HD that I know is working
[07:07] <[RYF]Reject_sM> BRB
[07:07] <Rym> when i try to play in amarok for instance it says device is in use
[07:07] <Yowshi> unop the account made by the wizard when you first run evolution
[07:07] <Rym> when i try to play in skype it sais capture device error
[07:07] <Rym> when i try to play in rythmbox i just get no sound at all
[07:08] <unop> Yowshi, ok, close evolution (and pretty much everything else) -- and run this command..
[07:08] <ompaul> Rym, stop right there, what is happening is you have something clashing looking for the device like maybe skype or some such and something wants to have a lock on the card
[07:08] <unop> Yowshi,  rm -rf ~/.gconf; cp -R /oldpath/to/.gconf/ ~/.gconf/
[07:08] <Rym> but this also happens after a reboot
[07:09] <Rym> i tried completely removing and reinstalling alsa; no change
[07:09] <ompaul> Rym, turn off skype if you want to play music
[07:09] <Rym> skype never worked at all
[07:09] <Cain_> where do i change the color of the kicker?
[07:09] <Yowshi> ok let me just reinstall the firefox session stuff so i camn have these tabs later
[07:09] <Cain_> KDE
[07:09] <Rym> unless amsn is locking my card
[07:09] <ompaul> Rym, it is badly coded it does not play well - you have two things open - maybe flash or some such
[07:09] <nit> how to play mkv files
[07:09] <Rym> where can i check that
[07:10] <ompaul> Cain_, ask in #kubuntu
[07:10] <ompaul> Rym, close it and check
[07:10] <KalEl> nit, use mplayer (or vlc)
[07:11] <Rym> well i closed FF cause i guess that would be using flashj
[07:11] <Rym> still nothing
[07:11] <Rym> if i set xine to use alsa drivers specifically
[07:11] <Rym> it says it cant initialize the audio drivers
[07:12] <SupaFly> something else is using your sound resources
[07:12] <ompaul> Rym, please close all your applications that "might use sound"
[07:12] <nit> how to port forward ubuntu
[07:12] <Werdna> nit: was that a google search or a question?
[07:12] <matyy> is it a know bug that in Hardy Compiz doesn't drow shadows?
[07:12] <SupaFly> nit more to do with your router no?
[07:12] <ompaul> Rym, open them one at a time and see how you go - you will find the application
[07:12] <ompaul> !hardy | matyy
[07:12] <ubotu> matyy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:13] <keithclark> is there a ubuntu home server project still active?
[07:13] <Rym> but the problem is i dont have anythign open right now
[07:13] <Rym> just xchat and terminal
[07:13] <SupaFly> check system monitor rym
[07:13] <Yowshi> grrrr unop that didnt seem to work
[07:13] <Werdna> keithclark: why would you need a different ubuntu home server release?
[07:13] <SupaFly> happens to me a quite a bit
[07:13] <Yowshi> anmnoyances would just be fragging easier for me to do this all manually
[07:13] <SupaFly> they'll be something using the sound, but i can usually only find what it is in the system monitor
[07:13] <keithclark> werdna, a simplified server would be great.
[07:13] <ompaul> Rym, ps auwx | less << check what might still be open from a previous session or log out and back in again and it should be easy
[07:14] <bobbo85> gnite all
[07:14] <lartza_> Why I get Error: Dependecy is not satisfiable: libc6 when installing some deb's?
[07:14] <Rym> let me relog.
[07:14] <Rym> brb
[07:14] <jnkq> ubuntu server edition is simple enough
[07:14] <Werdna> I just use ubuntu desktop :P
[07:14] <unop> Yowshi, i'd just redo the wizard -- all your email, etc should be restored anyway
[07:15] <Werdna> and apt-get install lighttpd bind squid ...
[07:15] <mamour_> I just got done watching a couple of hermaphrodites of the female persusaion from new zealand go at it
[07:15] <mamour_> most unbelievable thing ever
[07:15] <Yowshi> yeah the inbox's and stuff is all there just i cant send or recieve new emails
[07:15] <pulpfiction> i'm in doubt about which audio player to download.. anyone wanna help me choose between listen and banshee? :)
[07:15] <ompaul> !3rdparty | lartza_
[07:15] <ubotu> lartza_: Packages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.
[07:15] <SupaFly> mamour_ lol wtf?
[07:15] <mamour_> want link ?
[07:15] <SupaFly> im not sure
[07:15] <Yowshi> problem is i cant fragging remember the exact pop server and crap
[07:15] <belkinhelp2> help...it seems bittorrent is already installed....how do i get a gui application to work.  The package manager says that the bittorrent that is installed is only console!
[07:16] <bullgard4> [Gnome] English help wanted. What are the exact English names of the menu items of the System > Quit dialog? Are they 'Log Oout', 'Lock the screen', 'Switch User', 'Suspend', 'Hibernate', 'Restart', 'Shut down'? Or what are their exact English names?
[07:16] <SupaFly> belkinhelp2 try azureus
[07:16] <lartza_> so is it that i have "wrong" version of libc6? or the deb is jus uncompatible?
[07:16] <belkinhelp2> how do i type so that only you can see what I write?
[07:17] <heyadayo> hello
[07:17] <ompaul> lartza_, try incompatible
[07:17] <heyadayo> how do i change my dns servers in ubuntu?
[07:17] <unop> bullgard4, http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/logout.png
[07:17] <lartza_> oh :D
[07:17] <belkinhelp2> in the good ol unix days on IRC is was / whisper name
[07:17] <belkinhelp2> what is it now?
[07:17] <Yowshi> thing is i dont hold out any hope at all for getting games like tremulous back
[07:18] <belkinhelp2> !whisper
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whisper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <Carolyna_> Hello, play online with me ,
[07:18] <belkinhelp2> !private
[07:18] <Carolyna_> http.//jugar-online.blogspot.com/
[07:18] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[07:18]  * Yowshi kicks wine. who the hekll would make something so....so fragging foolish like a link in the folder 
[07:18] <musikgoat> heyadayo: click on network manager and click on manual configuration
[07:19] <Carolyna_> Carolina Cerezuela
[07:19] <Carolyna_> http://carolina-cerezuela.blogspot.com/
[07:19] <ompaul> belkinhelp2, that would be a matter for your client mostly /msg but first you need to register this is freenode
[07:19] <musikgoat> heyadayo: that will take you to network manager, where you have a dns tab to adjust dns
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> cool
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> ok, back to bit torrent
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> its already installed on ubuntu
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> but its console only
[07:19] <Yowshi> someone got banned?
[07:19] <belkinhelp2> how do i get a gui app running?
[07:20] <Werdna> spamspamspam
[07:20] <heyadayo> musikgoat, i don't suppose you know how to do it in command line?
[07:20] <delfick> hello. I'm installing ubuntu hardy onto my computer, using the home partition I already have. When I get to the part in the installer that asks for my username and passsword, if I supply the same username and password as the one in my existing home folder, will the installer continue using my current user files?
[07:20] <xenthro> how do i add directories to my path ?
[07:21] <musikgoat> heyadayo: yes, but they may get overwritten by network manager...  edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:21] <musikgoat> heyadayo: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf      the syntax is  nameserver x.x.x.x
[07:21] <ompaul> !hardy | delfick
[07:21] <ubotu> delfick: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:22] <delfick> how about if I did it with the gutsy installer?
[07:22] <crypt0> hi guys - i have a samba file server running at home on ubuntu server. is there a command to check which files are in use by network users?
[07:22] <bullgard4> unop: I believe that  http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/logout.png is of 2006 and not up-to-date. But I need an answer applicable to Gutsy.
[07:23] <rym> Hmm
[07:23] <rym> well that didnt work
[07:23] <arjuna> mat siang
[07:23] <Lumby> Does anyone have any idea what would cause my X-server to restart, my password to be change, and different login screen pop up while I am shutting down that has a blue background and a yellow flower on it pop up?
[07:23] <rym> gnome didnt load
[07:23] <Chokes> hi all
[07:23] <ethan961> hey
[07:24] <Chokes> any dev here?
[07:24] <ompaul> bullgard4, top: log out lock screen switch user bottom: suspend hibernate restart shutdown
[07:24] <musikgoat> Lumby: fwik, that is the default gnome login page,  does this happen after a fresh restart?
[07:25] <Chokes> anyway
[07:25] <arjuna> siapa saya yang
[07:25] <Lumby> Yes it dose musikgoat. What I am most concerned about is that my password (or username) seems to have been changed.
[07:25] <Chokes> i cant get ubuntu installing on a fake raid setup
[07:25] <crypt0> hi guys - i have a samba file server running at home on ubuntu server. is there a command to check which files are in use by network users?
[07:25] <Eisenhower> i need help. i'm running o ff the live cd and its stuck on "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"  for like 25 min now
[07:25] <Lumby> does*
[07:25] <bullgard4> ompaul: Is 'shutdown' written as a single word, or is it there written 'Shut Down'?
[07:25] <Chokes> even if a follow the tutorial
[07:26] <ompaul> bullgard4, 2
[07:26] <ompaul> !bootoptions | bullgard4
[07:26] <ubotu> bullgard4: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[07:27] <bullgard4> ompaul: Thank you very much for your help and have a happy Easter.
[07:27] <ompaul> bullgard4, I am already
[07:27] <unop> bullgard4, i dunno if you had a look here http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/logout.png
[07:27] <unop> bullgard4, and it's "Shut Down" as two words
[07:27] <crackintosh> ubuntu is reporting that I have 0 disk space.
[07:27] <crackintosh> I am wondering how i can find the largest file on my system.
[07:28] <bullgard4> unop: Thank you very much for your help and have a happy Easter.
[07:28] <unop> bullgard4, thanks, a happy easter in return :)
[07:28] <musikgoat> crackintosh: disk usage analyzer in the gui, would help
[07:28] <crackintosh> I started doing tar backups today and I think i might have accidentally created incremental backups about every 30 minutes.
[07:28] <crackintosh> accidentally :-/
[07:28] <crackintosh> musikgoat: is that a standard package?
[07:29] <musikgoat> yes, in accessories
[07:29] <unop> crackintosh,  du -a /path/ | sort -n -r | head 10
[07:29] <ompaul> crackintosh, http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=9700/ur0504a/
[07:30] <ompaul> crackintosh, actually what unop said
[07:30] <navetz> I am trying to turn my comp into a server. How do I find the DNS so my website points to the correct address.
[07:30] <unop> ompaul, i dunno why the guy in the blog went through all that hassle of an awk script
[07:31] <xenthro> in bash, how do I make a command to delete any file that matches *.rar ?
[07:31] <ompaul> unop, I don't know why I did not remove du  ;-)
[07:31] <ompaul> unop, I don't know why I did not remember du  ;-)
[07:31] <unop> crackintosh, actually --  du -a /path/ | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[07:32] <musikgoat> you could add an -h to the du command to see more readable sizes too
[07:32] <unop> musikgoat, but then sort would probably give you bizarre results
[07:32] <crackintosh> wow, the strangest thing happened. I found the largest file, it was an 18gb backup of the entire system which I made earlier today. HOWEVER, it was located on a remote SMB partition. So for some reason ubuntu thinks that this partition, which is mounted at /media/backups is actually part of the file system and taking up space!~
[07:32] <musikgoat> unop: doesn't seem so
[07:32] <RJ__> Why do my .MKV videos suddenly NOT work in Ubuntu without any reason. I didnt install anything new, and rebooting doesnt change things...
[07:32] <musikgoat> maybe i'm wrong :-/
[07:33] <musikgoat> maybe = definately
[07:33] <unop> musikgoat, try it out -- sort -n cannot differentiate  megabytes from gigabytes, if you know what i mean :)
[07:33] <crypt0> can someone help me out pls?
[07:35] <RJ__> bash: /media/sda2/[Conclave-Mendoi]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_-_01-13_[1280x720_H.264_AAC]/[Conclave-Mendoi]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_-_20_[1280x720_H.264_AAC][64574C72].mkv: cannot execute binary file
[07:35] <musikgoat> !ask
[07:35] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:35] <Lumby> Is there any way to see your passwords in plaintext?
[07:35] <RJ__> Error I get in terminal
[07:35] <musikgoat> Lumby: if your password is easy, you could run john the ripper on your passwords file...
[07:35] <crypt0> i have a samba file server running at home on ubuntu server. is there a command to check which files are in use by network users?
[07:36] <unop> crypt0, you could use a combination of lsof and grep -- lsof | grep -i /path/to/samba_share
[07:36] <crypt0> let me give that a shot
[07:37] <Lumby> musikgoat: I am mostly just concerned because something caused my Xserver to crash and when I tried to log back in my password didnt work.
[07:37] <musikgoat> yeah, i'm not quite sure what would cause that,  where you messing with pam at all?
[07:37] <unop> crypt0, although that does list which user or computer is accessing the files - there might be some tool part of the samba package to help with that
[07:38] <Lumby> I wasn't really messing with anything, I was trying to install something through wine, but thats about it.
[07:38] <crypt0> ok. i'll try and google
[07:39] <Freeze> Hello everyone
[07:40] <Freeze> erm
[07:40] <Freeze> I need help :)
[07:41] <ompaul> !ask | Freeze
[07:41] <ubotu> Freeze: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:41] <Freeze> I've installed Ubuntu 7.10 last week, and it's working great
[07:41] <unop> ompaul, when is hardy due to be released?
[07:41] <Freeze> It's running using a dual-boot setup, courtesy of GRUB, together with Vista Ultimate x64
[07:42] <Freeze> I've ran Ubuntu for about a week, and this morning i've tried to reboot to vista
[07:42] <Freeze> It did reboot, but it kept giving me the blue screen of death after 5 minutes of use
[07:42] <Freeze> Any idea why? :(
[07:42] <unop> Freeze, this is a question for the folks in ##windows -- i dont believe this to be a ubuntu issue
[07:43] <Freeze> okies, thanks
[07:43] <Lumby> Perhaps Microsoft pushed a new patch that caused issues with your computers, it probably has nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:43] <Freeze> It started only after I installed linux though :(
[07:43] <Lumby> try running a chkdsk
[07:43] <tvnz> hello all
[07:43] <gluer> probably using a cracked copy of vista ultimate
[07:43] <dny> Are there any other alternatives to the panels in ubuntu?  :x
[07:44] <ompaul> unop, april ~26
[07:44] <jnkq> hi
[07:44] <Freeze> Lumby - how do I do that?
[07:45] <tvnz> Freeze, have u installed SP1?
[07:45] <ompaul> !offtopic
[07:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:46] <ku> kuskin
[07:46] <ompaul> Freeze, ##windows < --- click there
[07:46] <Freeze> tvnz - nopes. using an installation from a few months back
[07:47] <Freeze> ompaul - already asking there - thanks
[07:48] <jnkq> phone their customer service
[07:49] <[[thufir]]> is there something like http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-text/wgetpaste ?  I can't seem to find it for ubuntu :(
[07:49] <Eisenhower> how do you get to root in console?
[07:50] <damo22> sudo -i
[07:50] <Eisenhower> ty
[07:50] <ompaul> !rootsudo | Eisenhower (telss how to all sorts of mad sudo stuff)
[07:50] <ubotu> Eisenhower (telss how to all sorts of mad sudo stuff): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[07:51] <Black_Magic> Anyone have problems with WD Passports? I plugged mine in and Ubuntu isnt notcing it anymore
[07:51] <Black_Magic> *noticing
[07:52] <Eisenhower> hey, i keep getting htis error when i try to mount a vista (nfts) parition. failed to mount '/dev/sda3': operation not supported mount is denied becuase NFTS is marked to be in use.
[07:52] <Eisenhower> how would i get around this?
[07:53] <ku> hi everyone
[07:53] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: is your vista in hibernation?
[07:54] <Eisenhower> no.. i loaded a ubuntu live cd
[07:54] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: you have to mount with options ro and force
[07:54] <ku> i am new to this linux stuf but i like it, i just install it on my Lenovo T60p
[07:54] <Eisenhower> ro ?
[07:54] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: read only
[07:54] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: are you familiar with the terminal?
[07:55] <Eisenhower> not really
[07:56] <Eisenhower> all i see is in this error it recommends mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3/media/OS -o force
[07:56] <Eisenhower> where would read only be?
[07:56] <musikgoat> ok, well open it by going to Applications > accessories > terminal
[07:56] <distatica> With debian I like to use a netinst cd, and install the base system but nothing else, and then manually install all my packages via apt. How would one go about doing this in ubuntu?
[07:56] <Acoustyk> how can I set up two different gnome sessions?
[07:56] <ku> i have 1 problem ...........my wireless card cannot up automatically when i start my laptop can anybody help on this problemmmmmmmm.......................................
[07:57] <musikgoat> you can try force first... that may not work, so then ro would be next,  that stops you from writing to the ntfs drive
[07:57] <Eisenhower> aite musickgoat: its open and i'm in root
[07:57] <Acoustyk> I want one to look normal and another like mac
[07:57] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:57] <Eisenhower> who that brought up soething wierd
[07:57] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: find the line that has /dev/sda3/me...
[07:57] <MUS4SHIII> I'm having some Privoxy trouble. I had it working mostly fine earlier, but it installed perfectly on my laptop, so I did a reinstall on the desktop. Now Firefox is saying "The proxy server is refusing connections" This is starting to get frustrating.
[07:58] <Eisenhower> now what do i do here? i'm totally not familiar with this
[07:58] <vallhalla81> Eisenhower: new to linux all together?
[07:58] <Eisenhower> um. /dev/sda3/media/OS ntfs-3g defualts,force 0 0  ?
[07:58] <Eisenhower> yea i am
[07:58] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: yes,
[07:58] <Eisenhower> i'm very advanced in windows. so i'm not a complete tard. =)
[07:59] <musikgoat> you got it.    now ctrl+x to save
[07:59] <Eisenhower> must make the transition though . as all relativity and anti lameness lies within linux
[07:59] <vallhalla81> welcome to the good side of computing
[07:59] <Eisenhower> =)
[08:00] <me2_> if i might pop in, i've forgot the command for reconfiguring xserver, sudo dpkg something something
[08:00] <distatica> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <distatica> I think
[08:00] <me2_> that looks right
[08:00] <vallhalla81> !xserver
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <musikgoat> info xorg-server
[08:00] <musikgoat> !info xorg-server
[08:01] <Acoustyk> anyone know a guide that describes how to set up two gnome sessions?
[08:01] <me2_> yeah, that's it
[08:01] <ubotu> Package xorg-server does not exist in gutsy
[08:01] <icesword> that dell ubuntu laptop is 540$ ,so cheap
[08:01] <MUS4SHIII> I'm loving my linux install, but it seems like every install I do requires hours of figuring stuff out. My laptop has been very easy to configure, but my desktop seems to install everything broken.
[08:02] <icesword> !info xorg-xserver
[08:02] <ubotu> Package xorg-xserver does not exist in gutsy
[08:02] <distatica> !info xserver-xorg
[08:02] <ubotu> xserver-xorg (source: xorg): the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[08:02] <icesword> ohhhhh
[08:02] <Eisenhower> musikgoat: mhm that didn't go over well
[08:02] <musikgoat> distatica wins the prize :-)
[08:02] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: whats wrong?
[08:02] <distatica> heh, that's a first
[08:02] <vallhalla81> i have seen on some vids that when the cube is truning you can make the windows pop out can any1 tell me how to do this?
[08:02] <Eisenhower> ther eisn't any line that says /dev/sda3/me...
[08:02] <Eisenhower> should i just put it in there?
[08:02] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: no
[08:03] <distatica> and my reward is, someone tells me how to manually install packages on ubuntu. Like, start with a base install and then have apt for teh rest of it.
[08:03] <me2_> vallhalla81: i have that on my laptop
[08:03] <me2_> i had to compile the extra plugins
[08:03] <Eisenhower> musickgoat: i'm doing this on a live cd. i have a feeling that makes a differnce
[08:03] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: you can use the command mount -t ntfs-3g -o defaults,force /dev/sda3...  /media/mountpoint
[08:03] <me2_> actually, i purged compiz-fusion then compiled everything from git
[08:03] <vallhalla81> me2_: i have most of them what 1 does that?
[08:04] <ompaul> !repos | MUS4SHIII (most things are automatically configured - /msg ubotu restricted to solve media issues)
[08:04] <ubotu> MUS4SHIII (most things are automatically configured - /msg ubotu restricted to solve media issues): The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[08:04] <me2_> i think it's called 3D windows
[08:04] <vallhalla81> me2_: thank you
[08:04] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: you are right,  make sure that there is a folder already created at /media/windows
[08:04] <me2_> alright, i'm blaming this on the time here, but what is 128MB as kB?
[08:05] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: so before that, type sudo mkdir /media/windows  (or whatever you want to call it)
[08:05] <ppibburr> 128 * 1024
[08:05] <distatica> It can also be 128 * 1000
[08:05] <vallhalla81> 12800
[08:05] <me2_> thanks ppibburr, but could i get that in a computed anser
[08:05] <ppibburr> sure
[08:05] <MUS4SHIII> ubotu: I've found that most things are supposed to be configured to simply work from the repositories, but few actually do, at least on my desktop anyway.
[08:05] <me2_> :)
[08:05] <MUS4SHIII> either way, I'm still having privoxy trouble
[08:05] <musikgoat> google 128*1024, how easy is that
[08:06] <me2_> i'm in a tty right now ;)
[08:06] <ppibburr> 131072
[08:06] <musikgoat> ahh
[08:06] <ppibburr> 128000
[08:06] <musikgoat> sorry
[08:06] <ppibburr> the higher is * 1024
[08:06] <me2_> thanks much
[08:06] <CVD-PR> Hey how is the coomand line to create a iso from a dvd?
[08:06] <ppibburr> mmkisofs
[08:06] <Eisenhower> musikgoat: i keep getting like a listed dialog of options about mount*
[08:06] <ppibburr> mkisofs*
[08:06] <vallhalla81> me2: 131072
[08:07] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: whats the command you typed?
[08:07] <kolobok> how can I add more services to System->Administration->Services GUI?
[08:07] <Eisenhower> okay , first like you said i did  sudo mkdir /media/windows
[08:07] <Eisenhower> then mount -t ntfs-3g -o defualts,force /dev/sda3/media/OS
[08:08] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: put sudo before mount,   and spell defaults defaults
[08:08] <yian> hello
[08:08] <Eisenhower> same thing
[08:08] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: and add at the end   /media/windows
[08:08] <musikgoat> sorry =)
[08:09] <yian> 有没有中国人啊
[08:09] <Eisenhower> musikgoat: '/dev/sda3/media/OS' : NOt a directory. failed to access
[08:09] <Eisenhower> thats a gross error
[08:10] <ppibburr> mount /dev/sda3
[08:10] <musikgoat> Eisenhower: that looked wierd,  try just /dev/sda3
[08:10] <ppibburr> ls then access the directory
[08:11] <Eisenhower> musikgoat: uereka!
[08:11] <Eisenhower> thank you. got it going. and that did it
[08:12] <musikgoat> nice
[08:12] <musikgoat> fstab is for persistent mounting, but since you are using a livecd, your changes to that file wont be saved
[08:13] <kevinf311-lap> thanks guys, back to a GUI (this is me2_ in actual form)
[08:14] <kevinf311-lap> i always forget that dpkg command
[08:14] <MUS4SHIII> ok, I go Privoxy working. I had to uncomment the listening port in the config file. My next problem is getting the Vidalia map to work. It works off of some geoip server. On my laptop the map works and I always end up at google.us, but the map doesn't work on my desktop and I often end up in foreign google sites. Any ideas for getting the geoip stuff to work?
[08:14] <Eisenhower> musikgoat: i may need your help doing it through fstab another day. =)
[08:14] <Eisenhower> thanks again
[08:14] <musikgoat> np
[08:14] <Yowshi> hmmm mounting a dvd would be mount loop -o /path/to/iso /path/to/mount right?
[08:15] <ppibburr> no
[08:15] <ppibburr> well, an iso yes
[08:15] <Yowshi> it is an iso but a dvd image
[08:15] <ppibburr> yes
[08:15] <ppibburr> sudo tho
[08:16] <Yowshi> i keep getting special device loop does not exist
[08:16] <Yowshi> yeah i know sudo is in there
[08:16] <ppibburr> -o loo[
[08:16] <ppibburr> -o loop
[08:16] <Yowshi> ooooh
[08:16] <ppibburr> not loop -o
[08:16] <Yowshi> thanks
[08:17] <ppibburr> welcome
[08:17] <Lifeisfunny> is someone able to upgrade to amd64 from i386 without having to do a full install from a CD?
[08:18] <ppibburr> no
[08:18] <musikgoat> not that i'm aware of Lifeisfunny
[08:18] <Yowshi> grrr ogle doesnt wanna load it
[08:18] <ppibburr> or ould want to
[08:18] <Lifeisfunny> musikgoat, ok
[08:18] <_ruben> reinstall is the only way to change arch
[08:18] <Lifeisfunny> I thought there might be a remote chance
[08:19] <Lifeisfunny> thanks
[08:19] <redheat> hi everyone
[08:19] <ppibburr> new kernel, replace packages to 64-bit
[08:19] <ppibburr> not fun
[08:20] <Bryan> I'm sending a lot of random packets during a wifi connection, and then getting dropped. Anyone got a solution? (Besides "stop sending so many packets?")
[08:21] <redheat> can someone help me with this question, I'm planning on installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my harddisk which has like 28 GB of free space, that empty space I'm gonna use it with another linux distribution opensuse 10.3, now I just need to know one thing, how much space should I allocate for ubuntu, especially I will be installing three different editions of ubuntu, KDE, Gnome and E-17
[08:21] <CVD-PR> bueno me fui
[08:21] <Yowshi> anyone know of a dvd player that can play from an image stored on the hdd?
[08:21] <Dr_willis_> Yowshi,  vlc can do that, and mplayer, i think
[08:21] <Bryan> redheat, I would probably say 15 (plus swap space...)
[08:21] <ppibburr> redheat why 3 distros, why not one with 3 desktops enviro'?
[08:21] <musikgoat> redheat: 4GB min,  for your situation 10 -15
[08:21] <Dr_willis_> Yowshi,  or if all else fails. you can mount the iso image and play the files off of the image
[08:22] <Yowshi> thanks Dr_willis that worked
[08:22] <Yowshi> vlc works goood :)
[08:22] <Dr_willis_> Yowshi,  actually by mounting the image. anything could play them
[08:22] <Yowshi> trusty vlc
[08:22] <Yowshi> ogle didnt wanna do it Dr_willis
[08:22] <redheat> ppibburr, I'm actually using one distro, but with three different environments..
[08:23] <BenniBoya> hey, when i boot linux in revoerymode(normal doesnt work) and i get an error saying libdb.4.5.so cant be found, i cant type apt-get ftrom the promt i get after the crash. Can i download that file and copy it in from windows (i cann acess ext2)
[08:23] <redheat> musikgoat, does that include, like Bryan said above 15 plus swap partition..
[08:23] <musikgoat> i don't think you _need_ that much
[08:23] <redheat> by the way, forgot to mention this,  I already have 4 GB of RAM  on my system,
[08:23] <ppibburr> < 15 G could do it
[08:24] <ppibburr> as the os partition
[08:24] <redheat> ppibburr, and for the swap, how much you think I should allocate? was thinking of 3 GB
[08:24] <ppibburr> >= 1 G
[08:24] <redheat> so all in all, it was come to be like 14
[08:24] <redheat> oh ok
[08:24] <lappy> Hi, I'm having a few problems logging on, everything will start up and then it will just log out straight away
[08:25] <redheat> would come*
[08:26] <redheat> guys, one more question and I will zip myself out of here, based on your experience, how much should I allocate for Opensuse as a swap, I heard some dude on opensuse saying that I can use one swap partition to be used by both distros..instead of creating two swap partition, one per distro
[08:26] <ppibburr> ! swap
[08:26] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[08:26] <musikgoat> thats right
[08:26] <ppibburr> 1 swap
[08:26] <pulpfiction> i need to get mysql+apache+php working
[08:27] <zcat[1]> redheat: yes, all your distros can share one swap (as long as you're not running them at the same time in an emulator)
[08:27] <pulpfiction> is there a package containing them or should i do one by one?
[08:27] <redheat> no zcat, I won't be running them virtually, each will run per incident
[08:27] <lappy> also, though it probably isn't related, i can't switch to virtual terminals... well i can but all i get is a glitchy jarbled up image
[08:27] <musikgoat> pulpfiction: you can do a LAMP install in ubuntu server, but not in the normal desktop install
[08:27] <unop__> redbox_, you should allocate about 2x size of RAM
[08:28] <MUS4SHIII> pulpfiction: when I set up my LAMP server I used synaptic package manager and then installed webmin for ease of configuration.
[08:28] <lappy> I'm guessing that virtual terminal problem can be solved by turning framebuffer off ?
[08:28] <musikgoat> unop__: is that wise for 4GB of RAM?
[08:28] <Razvan25> how do i activate my Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] ? it apears to be disabled in ubuntu ...
[08:28] <pulpfiction> musikgoat: you mean i need to do one by one on the desktop?
[08:28] <musikgoat> pulpfiction: yes
[08:28] <redheat> so guys I could do this, I can create a 4 GB of swap partition, and then remaining 24 will be divided to 12 for each distro..
[08:28] <pulpfiction> MUS4SHIII: is there any specific prefered order to install?
[08:29] <zcat[1]> 2xram only applies for small amounts of ram doesn't it? I generally say 2xram up to 1G ram, 2G swap.. after that just stop at 2G
[08:29] <MUS4SHIII> Razvan25: have you looked in the Restricted drivers manager?
[08:29] <icesword> ...
[08:29] <redheat> how is that for a partitionig scheme
[08:29] <pat5star> musikgoat: no, if you have that much ram, 1gb for swap is more than enough
[08:29] <ppibburr> redheat that will run fine, tho swap over kill
[08:29] <unop__> musikgoat, i wouldnt all it wise -- but it can accomodate the contents of RAM (and more if needed) when needing to standby/hibernate
[08:29] <Razvan25> no...what should i do there?
[08:29] <musikgoat> ahh
[08:29] <MUS4SHIII> pulpfiction: I selected all the packages at once in the package manager and hit apply. It worked really well.
[08:30] <redheat> yeah, that's one more thing, do the new distributions of Ubuntu and Opensuse support hibernation?
[08:30] <zcat[1]> Ahhh yes ... swap >= RAM if you want to be able to hibernate too I think?
[08:30] <ppibburr> ubuntu does
[08:30] <redheat> ok..
[08:30] <MUS4SHIII> Razvan25: once you click on it you should see bcmxx with a blank check box next to it. check the box and it should install the bcmxx driver.
[08:30] <redheat> and I think opensuse does..
[08:30] <ppibburr> reckon
[08:30] <Razvan25> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] appears to be working but disabled, fn+f2 does not activate it like windows does
[08:30] <redheat> roger that..dudes/dudettes tonight is the night..
[08:30] <MUS4SHIII> Razvan25: sorry, I meant bcm43xx driver
[08:31] <Razvan25> MUS4SHIII my driver is ok
[08:31] <Razvan25> it works
[08:31] <redheat> gonns do all that along with installing PClinuxOS E-17 on my laptop..
[08:31] <belkinhelp2> oh my....anyone here salsa with alsa?
[08:31] <pulpfiction> ok MUS4SHIII, can you help me identify the packages?
[08:31] <Razvan25> but it is disabled
[08:31] <ppibburr> bcm43xx-firmare-cutter
[08:31] <musikgoat> pulpfiction: there is a walkthrough on ubuntuguides.org  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Ubuntu_7.10_LAMP_Server
[08:31] <zcat[1]> Woot!! I'm running hardy!
[08:31] <pulpfiction> mysql = mysql-server ?
[08:31] <belkinhelp2> i have 3 outputs with 2 volume controls
[08:31] <pulpfiction> oh ok :)
[08:31] <redheat> guys have you seen the E-17 edition of PClinuxOS, it looks freaking awesome
[08:31] <MUS4SHIII> pulpfiction: it has been a while since I did it, but I can look through there for you, brb
[08:31] <zupb> hi, people. i'm install taskjuggler.gem, but i can't start it on my desktop. help me plese (gem list show taskjuggler)
[08:31] <Dr_willis_> redheat,  goodie for it.. :P
[08:31] <musikgoat> HEH
[08:32] <Dr_willis_> .gem? what the heck is a .gem?
[08:32] <redheat> thanks Dr-Willis, how are you my friend..
[08:32] <zupb> ya
[08:32] <ppibburr> ruby
[08:32] <zupb> .gem
[08:32] <zupb> ruby
[08:32] <ppibburr> gem's rock
[08:32] <redheat> folks, I"m truly thankful for your kind help and support, truly appreciate it..
[08:32] <Dr_willis_> wouldent you start it with 'ruby whatever.gem' then?
[08:32] <ppibburr> no
[08:32] <Razvan25> so...noone knows how to activate a driver ?
[08:32] <ppibburr> gem i [--local] gem (not gem.gem)
[08:33] <musikgoat> Razvan25: modprobe for a kernel module, if thats what your asking
[08:33] <Dr_willis_> Razvan25,  depends on the driver.. I normally just use the restricted-manager tool.
[08:33] <ppibburr> sudo apt-get install rubygems
[08:33] <zcat[1]> ahhh yes.. have to remove mono.. haven't got to that yet :)
[08:33] <ppibburr> Razvan, restricted driver should cure it
[08:33] <zupb> ppibburr, i have an rubby installer
[08:33] <ppibburr> ruby installer?
[08:33] <zupb> i install .gem
[08:34] <zupb> :)
[08:34] <MUS4SHIII> pulpfiction: php5, apache2, mysql-server, I think those are the right ones.
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  hello
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  alsa question
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  i have 3 outputs, front, rear and center/bass
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  i only have 2 volume controls
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  Master works only on front, PCM works only on rear, and there is no volume control at all for center/bass
[08:34] <belkinhelp2>  any suggestions?
[08:34] <FloodBot2> belkinhelp2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <Razvan25> hmm...i got tired of it
[08:34] <zcat[1]> !enter | belkinhelp2
[08:34] <ubotu> belkinhelp2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:34] <nit> hai
[08:34] <madrazr> Hii all
[08:35] <belkinhelp2> oh
[08:35] <zcat[1]> nit: O HAI!
[08:35] <belkinhelp2> sorry
[08:35] <nit> u
[08:35] <yowshi> hehehe got my pidgin stuff back
[08:35] <musikgoat> oh + sorry,  one line :-)
[08:35] <madrazr> is there a method to install packages on a system thats already installed on the machine with the live CD??
[08:35] <madrazr> please help me I am struggling
[08:35] <nit> which country r u from
[08:36] <musikgoat> madrazr: i don't understand your question
[08:36] <zupb> Dr_willis 'ruby: No such file or directory -- taskjuggler3 (LoadError)'
[08:36] <ppibburr> the restricte-drivers manger basically installs bcm43xx-firmwre-cutter and downloads wl_apsta.so
[08:36] <user9> doni
[08:36] <user9> hai.........
[08:36] <nit> what is the best linux distro for a college student
[08:36] <musikgoat> !best
[08:36] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[08:37] <ppibburr> college linux :
[08:37] <ppibburr> )
[08:37] <ppibburr> :)
[08:37] <musikgoat> ubuntu of course, what else would you hear, here
[08:37] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  after reading what you asked... im totally confused...
[08:37] <zcat[1]> bye bye tomboy, f-spot, and 36 packages of mono...
[08:37] <madrazr> musikgoat: I screwed ncurses on my system, there is no way I can access terminal on that system, so I have booted from the LiveCD and have mounted the root of that partition
[08:38] <MUS4SHIII> pulpfiction: here is a link for webmin. Its not the favorite of the hardcore Bash guys, but it made administration easier for me. http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=webadmin&filename=webmin_1.400_all.deb&use_mirror=superb-east
[08:38] <lappy> hm any ideas on the automatic logging out, straight after logging in ( though failsafe works fine ), or the garbled up tty1-6 ?
[08:38] <nit> hey guy
[08:38] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: you got my question now?
[08:38] <SupaFly> webmin is good, i use it
[08:38] <Dr_willis_> ncurses is not needed for  the terminal/console i think. Just some apps may use it. you can Chroot TO an installed system and do sysadmin type tasks.
[08:38] <ppibburr> ncurses effects tty?
[08:38] <SupaFly> very powerfull admin tool actually
[08:38] <zcat[1]> you can't just apt-get install webmin?
[08:38] <Dr_willis_> ppibburr,  i dident think so either. :)
[08:38] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  no you can not. use its source if you want it.
[08:38] <Dr_willis_> !webmin
[08:38] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[08:39] <Dr_willis_> !ebox
[08:39] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[08:39] <nit> iam an uder gratuate student in anna university india
[08:39] <Shubbar> i m new to ubuntu
[08:39] <MUS4SHIII> zcat[1]: I didn't see it in the repository, but the lnk I posted is a deb package and will install on its own.
[08:39] <madrazr> Dr_willis_ its needed thats the error I get when I login in failsafe mode from grub it gives that error, cannot load bash since libnurses.so.5 cannot be shared or opened
[08:39] <nit> is there any indains
[08:39] <zcat[1]> so it's like automatix and envy and easyubuntu then...
[08:39] <SupaFly> try getdebs.net for the latest webmin
[08:39] <SupaFly> i think its there anyway
[08:39] <nit> iam an indian
[08:39] <Shubbar> why i cannot find some games in the repo list?
[08:40] <noble-> I'm in Indiana
[08:40] <elkbuntu> zcat[1], i hope not like the former :-/
[08:40] <noble-> lol
[08:40] <Shubbar> i m looking for frozen bubbles ?
[08:40] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  no.. those are unofficial-hacked up scripts.. webmin was deemed a badly done app that is in many othe rdisrtos.. but debian/ubuntu decided to no longer include it.
[08:40] <musikgoat> hi, im in illinois,  now lets get back on topic
[08:40] <zcat[1]> Shubbar: possibly you haven't added all the repos.. possibly nobody's packaged it yet. what game?
[08:40] <bharath> hai
[08:40] <nit> how can i install GTA IN UBUNTU
[08:40] <Shubbar> frozen bubble
[08:40] <ppibburr> even with out bash you should have a sh shell?
[08:40] <Shubbar> i think it should be in the universe
[08:40] <Dr_willis_> ebox i hear is a decent replacement for webmin
[08:40] <zcat[1]> frozen bubble is in the repos I'm sure...
[08:40] <bharath> hello
[08:41] <Dr_willis_> !info frozenbubble
[08:41] <nit> BHARAT WHERE ARE U IN INDIA
[08:41] <ubotu> Package frozenbubble does not exist in gutsy
[08:41] <Dr_willis_> !find frozen
[08:41] <ubotu> Found: frozen-bubble, frozen-bubble-data
[08:41] <Shubbar> so why it is not showing?
[08:41] <bharath> from hyderabas
[08:41] <zcat[1]> !info frozen-bubble
[08:41] <ubotu> frozen-bubble (source: frozen-bubble): Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB
[08:41] <Memphis_au> hmm, my mates had it running the other day on xubuntu
[08:41] <bharath> i am srry hyderabad
[08:41] <zcat[1]> :P
[08:41] <Memphis_au> they would have gotten it from the repo's
[08:41] <Dr_willis_> one must SPELL the package name right. :)
[08:41] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: musikgoat: did you get my question??
[08:41] <elkbuntu> nit, firstly, please tap your caps lock key, secondly, this is a support channel not a socialising one.
[08:41] <nit> WHERE ARE U STUDYING
[08:41] <MUS4SHIII> Shubbar: have you enabled all the stock repositories?
[08:41] <musikgoat> madrazr: Dr_willis_ ansered it earlier
[08:41] <bharath> at louisiana at lafayette
[08:42] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  boot live cd, chroot into the installed system, purge/reinstall the packages you want.
[08:42] <soldats> !caps > nit
[08:42] <ppibburr> aye, without ncurses you should be able to access  tty
[08:42] <Shubbar> from preference in add/remove software > ubuntu software >
[08:42] <nit> IAM STUDYING IN ANNA UNIVERSITY CHENNAI
[08:42] <zcat[1]> !caps | nit
[08:42] <ubotu> nit: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:43] <elkbuntu> bharath and nit, please take your social discussion to PM or somewhere other than here
[08:43] <zcat[1]> .. don't think he was the pm
[08:43] <WHiZZi> Question: Has anyone tried Metisse under Ubuntu?
[08:43] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: can you please guide me with chroot
[08:43] <zcat[1]> *saw
[08:43] <madrazr> I donno the exact commands
[08:43] <MUS4SHIII> on the topic of frozen-bubble, I found it easily in synaptic package manager, but I don't see how to see what repository it is coming from. Anybody know how to do that?
[08:43] <MUS4SHIII> nvm
[08:43] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  chroot /path/to/intalled/system   then ya got a shell...
[08:43] <MUS4SHIII> univers
[08:43] <ppibburr> madrazr, mkdir foo; mount /dev/DEVICE foo; chroot foo
[08:43] <nit> WHAT IS THE BEST DOWNLOAD MANAGER FOR UBUNTU
[08:43] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  thats running on the installed system.  do what tasks ytou need
[08:43] <xenthro> im having a problem with basic bash scripting. its              echo y/n? ||| read answer ||| if $answer = "y" then |||     but it returns "command "y" not found." how do i make this work?
[08:44] <Dr_willis_> nit,  None.  You really need to quit typing in UPPERCASE everyone is putting you on ignore.
[08:44] <zcat[1]> nit: CAPSLOCK..
[08:44] <ppibburr> "$y"
[08:44] <MUS4SHIII> nit: I like d4x, but there is a patch you have to get for it to work with rapidshare.
[08:44] <madrazr> fine
[08:44] <Klement> hi, can anyone help me with missing /dev/mapper?
[08:44] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: ppibburr: Thanks will try now
[08:44] <zupb> guys, i have
[08:44] <zupb> gem list
[08:44] <zupb> *** LOCAL GEMS ***
[08:44] <zupb> sources (0.0.1)
[08:44] <zupb>     This package provides download sources for remote gem installation
[08:44] <zupb> taskjuggler3 (0.0.1)
[08:44] <FloodBot2> zupb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <zupb>     Project Management Software
[08:44] <Klement> I had it there, used dmraid a couple of times but now its gone
[08:44] <woodwizzle> does the ubuntu live cd use extlinux and/or syslinux?
[08:44] <ppibburr> if [ "$answer" == "y" ]
[08:44] <xenthro> ppibburr, ILL TRY THAT
[08:45] <ppibburr> or just =?
[08:45] <elkbuntu> !paste > zupb
[08:45] <arcticpenguin380> !ext4
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <xenthro> ppibburr, just = didnt work
[08:45] <yowshi> anyone know what i can use in place of nvidia settings if my card requires nvidia-glx-new
[08:45] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: I again get this error
[08:45] <madrazr> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo chroot gutsy/
[08:45] <madrazr> /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:45] <zcat[1]>  == to compare in bash .. or -eq for comparing numbers
[08:45] <Dr_willis_> I use the nvidia-settings tool on my nvidia-glx-new drivers
[08:45] <WHiZZi> !metisse
[08:45] <ubotu> Metisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[08:45] <musikgoat> = sets the var, == checks for equality
[08:45] <WHiZZi> ok, that I already knew...
[08:46] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  use the 'sh' shell, not bash. perhaps.
[08:46] <Shubbar> opps, just Show: All available packages
[08:46] <xenthro> this worked     if [ "$answer" == "y" ]
[08:46] <MUS4SHIII> Anyone know how to get the Vidalia network map to work. For some reason it doesn't seem to be pulling GeoIP data.
[08:46] <Shubbar> not just Supported
[08:46] <ppibburr> yup
[08:47] <MUS4SHIII> Shubbar: yeah
[08:47] <Shubbar> now i can install some fun
[08:47] <zupb> gem list *** LOCAL GEMS *** sources (0.0.1)     This package provides download sources for remote gem installation taskjuggler3 (0.0.1)     Project Management Software how i can run taskjuggler on desktop? thanks
[08:47] <MUS4SHIII> Shubbar: gotta love the frozen bubbles. That little penguin kicks some frozen bubble ass.
[08:47] <zcat[1]> fb is addictive
[08:48] <Klement> Can anyone help with missing /dev/mapper?
[08:48] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: how to change it for the system I am mounting, when I ran sudo chroot gutsy from sh on the live CD I again got the same error
[08:48] <zcat[1]> Klement: did you check behing the couch?
[08:48] <zcat[1]> *behind
[08:49] <Klement> yep, it isn't there
[08:49] <ppibburr> $(foo) is substitution of output of command, if $foo; is true false, if [  "$foo" == "blah" ]; is comparison, spaces  count
[08:49] <musikgoat> madrazr: setting the shell should be a chroot option...
[08:49] <zcat[1]> ls: cannot access /dev/mapper: No such file or directory --- OH NOES!!!
[08:49] <ppibburr> which i left a space! :)
[08:49] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  from the chroot man pages --> chroot NEWROOT [COMMAND...],,  try chroot /whatever/mount /sbin/sh  or whjatever the pasth to sh is
[08:50] <Dr_willis_> If no command is given, run ‘‘${SHELL} -i’’ (default: /bin/sh).
[08:50] <Dr_willis_> thats.. weird.. wonder why its using bash
[08:50] <ppibburr> chroot /path should suffice, if bashfails, you will be dumped to sh?
[08:50] <zcat[1]> sh is a simlink to bash?
[08:50] <unop__> Dr_Link, $SHELL is bash in the current environment
[08:50] <Klement> it *was* there, i was using dmraid and mount /dev/mapper/somecrapuuid but now it disappeared
[08:50] <zcat[1]> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-03-20 20:16 /bin/sh -> dash
[08:51] <set_out> so many gay
[08:52] <unop__> ppibburr, that doesn't make sense -- if your shell fails, you must be exited out of the sesssion -- just like you are when bash fails normally
[08:52] <musikgoat> ubuntu uses dash by default
[08:52] <ppibburr> unop_ no;
[08:52] <set_out> sounds good
[08:52] <Dr_willis_> unop__,  aha.. that makes sence now..   the man page is saying whats  the default.. and really is not saying  much thats true. :)
[08:52] <ppibburr> i chroot alot, build a custom deboot, bash fails, but i get a shell
[08:53] <belkinhelp2> does ubuntu need a firewall?
[08:53] <RabidWeezle> any fluxbox users out there?
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> belkinhelp2,  it has one.
[08:53] <zupb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60392/
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> !firewall | belkinhelp2
[08:53] <ubotu> belkinhelp2: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:53] <BenniBoya> hey, when i boot ubuntu it doesnt work, it says libdb.4.5.so cant be found and dies, where can i download that file to add it from windows?
[08:53] <zcat[1]> ppibburr: that's busybox I think
[08:53] <unop__> ppibburr, thats what i am saying, its not normal
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> RabidWeezle,  Lots of flusbox users here and all over.
[08:53] <RabidWeezle> firestarter is nice
[08:53] <belkinhelp2> awesome
[08:53] <RabidWeezle> cool, here's my issue, I'm not getting my right click menu with fluxbox
[08:53] <lacostej> hihi. Having a kernel issue. At boot /dev/disk is missing. What creates it ? udevd is running
[08:54] <vallhalla81> belkinhelp2: and there are other ones avilable if you want extra
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> is there anything it cant do from installation after initial boot?
[08:54] <zcat[1]> firestarter is good.. just remember to allow broadcast if you want to be aqble to browse for windows shares..
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> linux is awesome
[08:54] <unop__> Dr_willis, it kinda makes sense -- if you log in a system with csh -- and chroot -- you dont want to be plonked into a bash shell -- so $SHELL there would reflect the value in the current env.
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> !info fish
[08:55] <ubotu> fish (source: fish): a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22.3-2 (gutsy), package size 764 kB, installed size 3488 kB
[08:55] <belkinhelp2> as a former windows user i can honestly say i felt like a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that wasnt there
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> we all know the fish shell rules.
[08:55] <Dr_willis_> :)
[08:55] <belkinhelp2> linux is a breath of fresh air
[08:55] <RabidWeezle> I deleted my ~/,fluxbox so it would make a new one if it was some sort of config error, but it's still not loading the menu in fluxbox for when you right click the desktop Dr_willis
[08:56] <Dr_willis_> RabidWeezle,  boot X with just a terminal, and run fluxbox from the teminal, and read the erroe messages. perhaps. I got my own fluxbox customuzed menus in .fluxbox
[08:56] <vallhalla81> belkinhelp2: welcome to the nice side of linux this is a help chanel ubuntu of topic is a place to chat more
[08:56] <Dr_willis_> RabidWeezle,  i dont know how it autogenerates them
[08:56] <spinoza> hi... I'm having troubles getting the right X resolution on a 42 inch TV screen - anyone got advice? it's 16:9 - the doc says it could run at 1366x768, but I cannot get that resolution to work
[08:56] <spinoza> running gutsy
[08:56] <Klement> Can anyone help with missing /dev/mapper?
[08:57] <RabidWeezle> basically, before you edit them, it used to work like it calls the system wide ubuntu menu, then you can add onto it with your menu entry in ~/.fluxbox, but lemme try the boot with terminal, brb
[08:57] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to make my "gksudo" and "shutdown", or any other menus, come up in the middle of monitor1 using twinview? right now mine are coming up split across the two monitors which comprise screen1.
[08:57] <unop__> RabidWeezle, yo could try this from the command line before starting up fluxbox -- cp /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu ~/.fluxbox/menu
[08:57] <yowshi> hmmm i cant get xsensors to show anything
[08:58] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: do you meen you wish for a clone screen?
[08:58] <Dr_willis_> MUS4SHIII,  other programs start up properly? only those 2 show up in the middle?
[08:58] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: well, the volume manager window at he beginning shows up in the middle too
[08:58] <yowshi> anyone know how to get gdesklets ot xsensors to actually work?
[08:59] <tvnz> BenniBoya, http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/db4.5/libdb4.5_4.5.20-11_i386.deb
[08:59] <zcat[1]> same issue here.. all the 'middle of the screen' windows pop up between the two screens... don't even get me started on fullscreen games. But fullscreen video is fine!
[08:59] <MUS4SHIII> anything that wants to open in the middle of the screen splits across the two monitors
[08:59] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  odd..i rarely have any issues with stuff streatching across both screens.. other then vmware, and some java apps.
[08:59] <MUS4SHIII> as great as linux is, there are some areas where windows still beats it, like multi monitor support.
[08:59] <BenniBoya> tvnz: ty, how do i install it from windows(i can acess my ext2 partion)
[08:59] <zcat[1]> 'cos twinview works as one big desktop... but I don't understand why playing video works differently
[08:59] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  i do recall you nee dto disable xinerama, and JUST have twinview enabled.
[09:00] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: what graphics card are you using
[09:00] <vallhalla81> ?
[09:00] <zcat[1]> ok, where do I dissable xinerama?
[09:00] <Dr_willis_> MUS4SHIII,   except linux has had support for multi monitors ages befor windows die. :)
[09:00] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  its in the xorg.conf with all the other settings.
[09:00] <MUS4SHIII> I've got an nVidia 7600 and nVidia FX 5200
[09:00] <unop__> BenniBoya, it wont work that way -- you'll need to use a live CD or something, chroot into the system and install that package
[09:00] <amortvigil> how can i see wich video driver my pc uses?
[09:00] <Dr_willis_> I just use a single card with 2 video outs normally. makes it a lot easier
[09:01] <MUS4SHIII> I have 4 monitors
[09:01] <BenniBoya> uunop__:could u like send me the file and I paste it where its ment to go?
[09:01] <Dr_willis_> You must have a large desk.
[09:01] <zcat[1]> so comment out all of serverflags, or just that one line (it's the only thing in there)
[09:01] <MUS4SHIII> I was running 3 lcds and one 32" CRT TV with my MCE 2005 install
[09:01] <unop__> and wear spectacles??
[09:01] <unop__> :)
[09:01] <vallhalla81> ok try from a terminal sudo nvidia-settings
[09:01] <Dr_willis_> getting a sun tan from the radiation
[09:01] <Bippe> anyone with knowledge of gnome xchat who can help me ot a bit ? i'm having problems getting xdcc file transfers..
[09:02] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII:  ok try from a terminal sudo nvidia-settings
[09:02] <zcat[1]> linux has supported multimonitors forever, but until recently it's been a bitch to do anything with
[09:02] <MUS4SHIII> got it
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],  for about 5 different disrtos i was just using the same xorg.conf :)
[09:03] <vallhalla81> ok it is quite str8 forward to ajust it from there but if you get stuck i will w8 here
[09:03] <tvnz> BenniBoya, try to start ubuntu in recovery mode
[09:03] <BenniBoya> tvnz: thats what ive been doing
[09:03] <MUS4SHIII> zcat[1]: yeah, I love that they have the nvidia config gui now. makes it way easier.
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> zcat[1],   the nvidia-settings tool has been a hidden secret for ages.
[09:03] <unop__> BenniBoya,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libdb4.5
[09:03] <zcat[1]> nvidia-settings is pretty useful
[09:03] <Dr_willis_> Then theres the nvidia-xconfig or whatever its called tool.
[09:04] <baklava-> can I download files from another machine via ssh?
[09:04] <tvnz> BenniBoya, then i console write wget "package link" , and sudo dpkg -i "package"
[09:04] <tvnz> *in
[09:04] <MUS4SHIII> Dr_willis: that's what I use. I added it to my admin menu
[09:04] <MUS4SHIII> makes it way easier
[09:04] <vallhalla81> nvidia-settings is the same interface you would use in win so its simple even for cros over
[09:04] <madrazr> installing through apt-get in the chroot environment is giving this error,
[09:04] <BenniBoya> ill try that aswell
[09:04] <madrazr> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[09:04] <madrazr> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[09:04] <zcat[1]> oh well.. time to bounce gdm and see if this worked... I might just do a whole reboot.
[09:05] <unop__> BenniBoya, trust me, the surest way to getting the system working again is via a chroot -- pasting libdb-4.5.so might not work, other files part of the libdb-4.5 package might be needed too
[09:05] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  you need to remount the /dev/  dir, to the /PLACEYOUARECHROOTINGTO/dev dir
[09:05] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: I don't see where to configure something to make my menus open on monitor1 rather than screen1 though
[09:05] <BenniBoya> uunop__: i dont know what chroot is
[09:05] <Klement> Can anyone help with missing /dev/mapper?
[09:05] <BenniBoya> im noob
[09:05] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  i recall it needed the mount command with bind option. but i forget the details
[09:05] <yowshi> how do i get it so gkrellm can actually see my sensors stuff?
[09:05] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: one moment
[09:06] <BenniBoya> uunop__:would it have to be a ubuntu live cd?
[09:06] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: will search for that
[09:06] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  since sh works., you could just change the users default shells to be /bin/sh or whatever the path is. and reboot.  is one way
[09:06] <pulpfiction> where do i change the name of my computer?
[09:06] <pulpfiction> for example, myuser@mycomputer
[09:06] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: Ya nice idea, how to change the default shell?
[09:06] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: do you see x server display config?
[09:06] <pulpfiction> i want to change the "mycomputer"
[09:06] <Dr_willis_> !hostname | pulpfiction
[09:06] <ubotu> pulpfiction: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[09:07] <unop__> BenniBoya, it's a way of using a CD to boot the machine up and get you to a stage from where you can enter your filesystem to make changes to it
[09:07] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  chsh command i belive
[09:07] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: yep
[09:07] <pulpfiction> thanks
[09:07] <unop__> BenniBoya, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-rescuemode-boot.html
[09:07] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: got i
[09:07] <madrazr> *got it
[09:07] <vallhalla81> ok what is its curent config in there
[09:07] <unop__> BenniBoya, or better http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rescue_chroot
[09:07] <Dr_willis_> madrazr,  actually from the grub menus, you could of passed a init=/bin/sh also :)
[09:08] <madrazr> ok
[09:08] <BenniBoya> thanks
[09:08] <zcat[1]> bah half my screenlets won't load on boot
[09:08] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok what is its curent config in there
[09:08] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: xinerama - false, both lcd's are on screen one with twinview, both monitors are absolute positions
[09:09] <MUS4SHIII> sorry, screen 0
[09:09] <Yancho> xserver-xephyr: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.5 is to be installed <- is there any way I can get away with installing this please?
[09:10] <madrazr> Dr_willis_: Thanks a lot, I will try now
[09:10] <madrazr> bye
[09:10] <askand> Is it correct that the restricted drivers manager wont show that I need restricted drivers when running from livecd? It shows up after I have installed and rebooted?
[09:10] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok b4 we start playing with settings hit save to x config
[09:11] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: made a backup as soon as I got it working
[09:11] <vallhalla81>  ok
[09:11] <unop__> Yancho, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[09:11] <Yancho> unop__ 6.06
[09:12] <unop__> Yancho, thats a bit old, no?  it'd be better if you upgraded to a newer release
[09:12] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: now so i am clear you want the 2 screens to show as 2 halves of the same  or both to show the same ting?
[09:12] <vallhalla81> thing*
[09:13] <Yancho> unop__ problem is i dont have much space :(
[09:13] <jng> i just installed hardy and in the install it spotted my gutsy install and offered to import accounts -- neat.  I passed on the option (not sure how much it would have done) but wonder if there is any way to do this post-install -- or any doc of what it would have done?
[09:13] <LiraNuna> beta is out :)
[09:13] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: two halves of the same, they are doing that now, but anything that opens in the middle of the screen by default stretches across the two screens
[09:13] <unop__> Yancho, dist-upgrades dont take up much extra space -- how much free space are we talking?
[09:13] <Yancho> UncleChevitz 432 .. and i need t oinstall ubuntu-desktop for sure
[09:14] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok i will reset my screens so i am looking at the same thing as you
[09:14] <unop__> Yancho, 432?
[09:14] <Yancho> 432 MB (sorry forgot the mb)
[09:14] <MUS4SHIII> I figured this might be some kind of configuration of X interface config that put them at x=25% y=50% or something like that.
[09:15] <unop__> Yancho, and you say youdont have ubuntu-desktop already installed??
[09:15] <askand>  Is it correct that the restricted drivers manager wont show that I need restricted drivers when running from livecd? It shows up after I have installed and rebooted?
[09:15] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: did you say it is set as absolute?
[09:15] <MUS4SHIII> yes
[09:16] <Yancho> yes unop__ - i removed it to have some more disk space
[09:16] <icesword> my vides card controller is intel82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV graphics controller,does it support compiz
[09:16] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok click on the screen that is your left screen
[09:16] <MUS4SHIII> ok
[09:17] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: then swap it so position is left of insted of absolute
[09:17] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: then aply
[09:17] <MUS4SHIII> ok
[09:17] <unop__> Yancho, so you don't need it then?  if you did a dist-upgrade, you could probably get by, it's just going to upgrade the packages installed on the system
[09:17] <gluer> is there anyway to give my desktop a glass like effect?
[09:17] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: now open something see if that helps
[09:18] <MUS4SHIII> it didn't, do I need to save to Xorg and restart X?
[09:18] <Yancho> unop__ but i was told that i need ubuntu-desktop when i upgrade
[09:18] <unop__> Yancho, if you have freespace on another harddrive/partition -- you could make use of it
[09:18] <unop__> Yancho, no, you don't
[09:18] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: did it prompt for that when you hit apply?
[09:18] <Yancho> unop__ yes i have 100 GB on /media/usbdisk-1
[09:18] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: nope
[09:19] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: then shouldent make a diferance
[09:19] <MUS4SHIII> ok
[09:19] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: one moment please
[09:19] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: np
[09:19] <unop__> Yancho, if you can spare some space from that drive, make a partition -- you can move an entire directory like /usr/local onto that partition and have it mounted as /usr/local -- that way you gain the space taken up by /usr/local
[09:20] <Yancho> unop__ is it ok that its a usb disk? its always plugged in there
[09:21] <unop__> Yancho, a 100GB usb stick? :)
[09:21] <Yancho> sata to usbdisk convertor
[09:21] <gregory> MUS4SHIII: you nick is very interesting. in german it describes some part of the female body.. ;-)
[09:21] <unop__> Yancho, should be ok, yea
[09:21] <Yancho> unop__ sorry to ask alot - u mind guiding me please?
[09:21] <MUS4SHIII> gregory: is it one of the good parts at least ?
[09:22] <unop__> Yancho, although if i were you, i would only do this as a temporary remedy
[09:22] <gregory> MUS4SHIII: its one of the parts, which only the husband sees, just to let you know
[09:22] <unop__> Yancho, i can try -- sure
[09:22] <Yancho> unop__ what do u mean temporary remedy?
[09:23] <MUS4SHIII> gregory: right on--- mmm.... naughty bits :)
[09:23] <unop__> Yancho, as in -- a temporary setup until space is available on fixed disks
[09:23] <Yancho> problem is when will it be hehe :)
[09:23] <gregory> MUS4SHIII: you choose the nick by intention? or does it mean something like mussharaff for shiites?
[09:24] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok can you try this for me please
[09:24] <MUS4SHIII> gregory: actually Miyamoto Musashi was a Tokugowa era Samurai from the 1600's.
[09:24] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: ok, shoot.
[09:24] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: set it so that it is seperat xdisplay
[09:25] <gregory> MUS4SHIII: ok then
[09:25] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: that would work, but then I would have 3 separate x session and you can't usually drag programs between X sessions.
[09:26] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ah ok didt realise you needed drag
[09:26] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: its not a huge deal, I can see the whole menus, they just straddle the two monitors.
[09:27] <MUS4SHIII> its only system stuff that does that anyway.
[09:28] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: click on advanced please and scroll down and tell me what is in metta mode
[09:28] <icesword> my vides card controller is intel82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV graphics controller,does it support compiz
[09:29] <Yancho> unop__ i have found that /media/hda5 can be formatted and used as space
[09:29] <Yancho> its a 15GB space
[09:29] <hyw> hello
[09:30] <Ace2016> Hi
[09:30] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: click on advanced please and scroll down and tell me what is in metta mode
[09:30] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: 1 - "CRT nvidia-auto-select ...
[09:30] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: sorry, it doesn't show all at once.
[09:31] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: ...+1280+0, DFP: nvidia auto select +0+0
[09:31] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: would really like to have copied and pated that
[09:32] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: are you looking in x server display config still?
[09:32] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: yep
[09:32] <musikgoat> icesword: i have the same intel integrated graphics card on my laptop, it works with compiz fine in gutsy
[09:32] <Stupid^Kid> i can't find the command rc-update, for help
[09:32] <_Tux_> hi.
[09:33] <musikgoat> its a little laggy if i use alot of effects, but overall its nice
[09:33] <_Tux_> Im trying to move a file,but to no avail ,I use this command but it doesnt work : mv "/home/boss/Downloads/Emule/Sams - Linux Shell Scripting With Bash Ebook-Ling.pdf" "/Desktop/Linux Stuff/Books/Sams - Linux Shell Scripting With Bash Ebook-Ling.pdf"
[09:33] <_Tux_> any idea why?
[09:33] <icesword> musikgoat, dude,pretty nice,sir :)
[09:33] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: the thing i was asking for is just 1 box that says metamode that has a number in it
[09:33] <musikgoat> _Tux_: whats the error you get?
[09:34] <_Tux_> mv: cannot move `/home/boss/Downloads/Emule/Sams - Linux Shell Scripting With Bash Ebook-Ling.pdf' to `/Desktop/Linux Stuff/Books/Sams - Linux Shell Scripting With Bash Ebook-Ling.pdf': No such file or directory
[09:34] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: the number is 1, but all that other stuff is attached on the button also
[09:34] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: where the butons say reset detect advance
[09:34] <musikgoat> _Tux_: are you sure /Desktop/Lin.... is correct?
[09:35] <musikgoat> you may need to drop the first /
[09:35] <hyw> I was having an issue yesterday after installing ubuntu and trying to boot it says Error:22 No such partition. I changed /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst in LiveCD hd2,1 to hd1,1 and it worked. I booted to ubuntu installed updates shutdown the pc and now the same error is back and I cant do sudo mount /dev/sdc2/mnt anymore it says cant find in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:35] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok incrase meta by one(click add once)
[09:35] <prem> how can i rename a hard drive partition
[09:35] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: yep, I clicke on advanced and see "MetaMode: 1-..."
[09:35] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok incrase meta by one(click add once)
[09:35] <_Tux_> musikgoat : yes its correct,I used the autocomplete
[09:36] <bidioule_> hi all, anybody knows how to get rid of a /proc filesystem which is not the currently running one ? i debootstrapped ubuntu in a /mnt/ubuntu folder, now want to clean it all, but i can't remove the /mnt/ubuntu/proc part of it
[09:36] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: ok, now it says 2 -...
[09:36] <vallhalla81> ok apply
[09:36] <musikgoat> _Tux_: type:  ls /Desktop
[09:36] <musikgoat> what do you get?
[09:36] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: ok, it is prompting for a restart of X
[09:36] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: brb
[09:36] <vallhalla81> ok
[09:36] <_Tux_> musikgoat: nothing... since im not it that directory
[09:37] <prem> my hard drive partition says '149.0 GB Volume: disk' ? how can i rename
[09:37] <musikgoat> _Tux_: you need to drop the /  that is an absolute path, a relative path doesn't start with /
[09:37] <prem> when i rename it , it says error
[09:38] <Ziroda1> Where does compiz keep its error logs?
[09:38] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: It found inconsistencies. it says that "MetaMode 2 of Screen 0 is the same as MetaMode 1. All MetaModes must be unique."
[09:38] <musikgoat> _Tux_: being in any directory you want   ls /home will always give you the same thing
[09:38] <Dr_willis_> prem,  is it a ntfs or ext3 filesystem?
[09:38] <prem> ext3
[09:38] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: ok, i'm trying the auto fix, brb
[09:38] <Dr_willis_> prem,  use the tune2fs command to set a Label for the filesystem
[09:38] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: did you add to both screens or just one?
[09:39] <prem> thank u dr willis
[09:39] <musikgoat> _Tux_: do you see what i mean?
[09:39] <_Tux_> musikgoat : yes and now it works!!!
[09:40] <musikgoat> cool
[09:40] <_Tux_> musikgoat: Thanks alot!
[09:40] <prem> what is root
[09:40] <musikgoat> !root
[09:40] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:40] <prem> what is root in user accounts
[09:40] <musikgoat> awe darn
[09:41] <Dr_willis_> prem,  the roor user. is the super-user, the admin dude. :)
[09:41] <musikgoat> the master user i guess is the best way to put it
[09:41] <prem> how can i get into root usersaccount
[09:41] <musikgoat> sudo -i
[09:41] <Dr_willis_> prem,  see what ubotu said
[09:42] <prem> root users account
[09:42] <musikgoat> for what prem?
[09:42] <jamesxu> Hello, I want to install gcc 3.2.3, but it desn't in list, how shall i install it?
[09:42] <Dr_willis_> you use the 'sudo' command to do those thats that are system admin type tasks. 'sudo commandtodo'
[09:43] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: well, no luck. most of my windows came up white
[09:43] <prem> how can i set another password for root
[09:44] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: I went back to the backup xorg.conf
[09:44] <Leolo_sing> question : how do i get the top panel to not be centered?
[09:45] <Dr_willis_> prem,   thats not advieable. learn the proper use of the 'sudo' command.
[09:45] <prem> wher can i get online tutorial on ubuntu
[09:45] <prem> give the site
[09:45] <Leolo_sing> oh wait, there we go
[09:45] <MUS4SHIII> vallhalla81: thanx for the help, but its pretty late, I think I'll try again another day. Night all.
[09:45] <Leolo_sing> ha ha never mind
[09:46] <Dr_willis_> prem,  google for 'ubuntu wiki training' theres a book there.. and the ubuntu.com sute has lots.. google will find you 100's of other sites also.
[09:46] <musikgoat> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[09:46] <RabidWeezle> anyone know how to run compiz with blackbox?
[09:46] <Dr_willis_> google is our friend. :)
[09:46] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: then i am sorry to say i am not sure what is happening
[09:46] <Dr_willis_> RabidWeezle,  compiz is a window maanger, so it would replace 'blackbox' so  i dont think thats doable.
[09:46] <vallhalla81> MUS4SHIII: ok mate good luck
[09:47] <RabidWeezle> arg, I just want some compositing for avant :/
[09:49] <mykx> hi a friend of mine has asked me to find out, he's just installed ubuntu and is wondering what the default password for "root" is
[09:50] <musikgoat> there isn't one
[09:50] <musikgoat> !root
[09:50] <NET||abuse> Hi all, anyone have a solution for making goog calendar writable from evolution?
[09:50] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:51] <Dr_willis_> mykx,  there is No root password. use the 'sudo' command and the inital users password to do root tasks
[09:51] <mykx> ah ok thanks I'll let him know
[09:51] <NET||abuse> I have google calendar in read only mode at the moment, but is there a way for syncing up to it/adding entries to it from within evolution?
[09:51] <musikgoat> NET||abuse: iirc, they fixed that in the latest version of evolution, in the new gnome
[09:51] <ubuntu> what channel in portugues?
[09:52] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, emm, is that a feature in the next ubuntu release or in current 7.10?
[09:52] <musikgoat> next
[09:52] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, oh, crap :(
[09:52] <kebinusan> can anyone direct me how to fix gnome panels being shown on top of games like world of warcraft run through wine
[09:52] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, I need to be able to effectively ditch the evolution private calendar and just live my life by proxy through google :-P
[09:53] <musikgoat> in the mean time NET||abuse a search on google brought this up as one of the first links: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/18/sync-evolution-calendar-with-google-calendar/
[09:53] <kebinusan> lots of threads on it on google, but I havent found a solution yet
[09:53] <bertvdp> hi, I'm having trouble with the latest mysql-server 5.0 update, it returns the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60395/
[09:55] <KR-data> is it safe to interrupt an ldconfig as a part of a system update? It's been working for over 12 hours now
[09:55] <ubuntu> what channel in portugues?
[09:55] <RabidWeezle> is there another osx style dock bar like avant that doesn't use compiz?
[09:55] <s> hello
[09:55] <NET||abuse> wooooww,,, my machine is a mess
[09:55] <RabidWeezle> I know google's gOS runs some cool dock without compositing
[09:55] <whabo> hello ... help anyone ... how do do you login as a root in the terminal ????
[09:56] <RabidWeezle> you don't
[09:56] <ani1> Rabiddog: gOS is _NOT_ google OS
[09:56] <KR-data> whabo, sudo su, but why do you need it?
[09:56] <Dr_willis_> ani1,  beat me to it.. :) heh heh
[09:56] <gregory> whabo: sudo -i
[09:56] <whabo> KR-data to change video
[09:56] <s> why in ubuntu cant i see the ffx3 new vistaish unique button?
[09:56] <RabidWeezle> thanks for the help there, how about an answer to the question
[09:56] <KR-data> whabo, usually you just run all root-commands with sudo and that should enough :)
[09:56] <Dr_willis_> osx style dock - just some icons sitting in th bottom/middle of the screen... weee...
[09:56] <s>  why in ubuntu cant i see the ffx3 new vistaish unique button??
[09:57] <NET||abuse> ok, this is a whole new level of weird in terms of misbehaving laptops,,,, when i boot up, quite often the post screen is stuck up there and it doesn't proceed,, i've found that by rapping my knuckles quite firmly on the front left of the case below the keyboard, it then proceeds!!!
[09:57] <NET||abuse> Also from time to time my desktop is freezing,, again the same proceedure has proven successful in unfreezing my laptop....
[09:57] <s>  why in ubuntu cant i see the ffx3 new vistaish unique (back/forward) button?
[09:57] <ubuntu> what channel in portugues?
[09:57] <NET||abuse> I just froze there for almost 30 seconds.... then got it unfrozen,,, and emmm, everything seems fine now...... wuh?
[09:57] <gregory> NET||abuse: your a windoze magician, cant help you ;-)
[09:57] <ani1> !language | ubuntu
[09:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:58] <ani1> err rofl
[09:58] <bertvdp> NET||abuse: that sounds like a hardware error
[09:58] <ani1> !english | ubuntu
[09:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:58] <NET||abuse> gregory, ??? windoze?
[09:58] <gregory> NET||abuse: nevermind
[09:58] <hyw> anyone using SSH with Konsole here?
[09:58] <NET||abuse> bertvdp, it certainly does sound this way doesn't it :)
[09:58] <ani1> when looking at a shortcut in gnome i see that firefox's launcher command is firefox %u what is the %u variable?
[09:58] <gregory> NET||abuse: i would agree with bertvdp
[09:59] <KR-data> is it safe to interrupt an ldconfig as a part of a system update? It's been working for over 12 hours now
[09:59] <bertvdp> does anyone have any idea how to fix this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60395/ ?
[09:59] <Dr_willis_> ani1,  the name of the selected file/options given when launching
[09:59] <bertvdp> could it be a user problem ?
[09:59] <Dr_willis_> ani1,  it may stand for 'URL' proberly
[10:00] <vallhalla81> !evp
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <ani1> Dr_willis: its the default shortcut i didnt put it there and it only opens to the homepage other applications share this same variable
[10:00] <ani1> bertvdp: i dont speak your native language but can you mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p and login to sql?
[10:01] <pulpfiction> how do i edit the main menu entries?
[10:01] <vallhalla81> !enhanced virus protection
[10:01] <bertvdp> ani1: I don't know the password
[10:01] <Paavo> Are there readybuilt Ubuntu packages anywhere for the new NVidia binary drivers?
[10:01] <musikgoat> system -> preferences > main menu
[10:01] <ani1> pulpfiction:  alacarte
[10:01] <vallhalla81> !enhanced virus protection
[10:01] <musikgoat> badabum
[10:01] <ani1> bertvdp: its using one :\
[10:01] <KR-data> noone knows?
[10:01] <erry> ....?
[10:01] <erry> o_O
[10:01] <Paavo> The ones in the repo are pretty old.
[10:01] <pulpfiction> also, how do i configure the applications which should run upon initialization? like pidgin
[10:02] <bertvdp> ani1: it says acces denied if I don't type ine
[10:02] <bertvdp> *one
[10:02] <musikgoat> pulpfiction: those can be added to Sessions, also in the preferences
[10:02] <ani1> pulpfiction: sys prefs sessions
[10:02] <ani1> bertvdp: can you log into the root account ?
[10:02] <theunixgeek> Where can I get the Hardy wallpaper without the heron?
[10:02] <bertvdp> ani1: what's the command to add the user debian-sys-maint or change his password ?
[10:02] <bertvdp> ani: yes I can login as root
[10:03] <ani1> bertvdp: do a quick google search for resetting a sql password if this doesnt help http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-mysql-password.shtml
[10:03] <musikgoat> KR-data: i cant suggest killing ldconfig, but if its been 12 hrs...
[10:03] <rahsputin> good morning everybody!! I do not have a mouse and would like to use the mouse at some time with the NUM Pad arrows , all work "good" except for the speed, any way to speed it up ?
[10:03] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, thanks for that link for evolutin with goog calendar, but that's what i've already done.. it's read only
[10:03] <ubuntu> hi
[10:03] <musikgoat> NET||abuse: sorry,  you could try the Hardy Herron Beta,  its getting pretty stable...
[10:04] <ubuntu> how i repair my lilo for Live cd?
[10:04] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, i wonder is it possible to install a backport of evolution or parts thereof that enable google calendar up sync'ing
[10:04] <pulpfiction> ok, ty ani1 and musikgoat
[10:04] <KR-data> musikgoat, it seems unnaturally long, one of my friends suggest too little swap space, maybe I should try changing that
[10:04] <musikgoat> NET||abuse: i haven't looked into it
[10:04] <musikgoat> KR-data: i agree, ldconfig shouldn't take more than the amount of time to install packages, imo
[10:04] <ani1> !lilo | ubuntu
[10:04] <ubotu> ubuntu: lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[10:05] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, well, i was going to re-install my laptop on the herron release, (i thought there was already a hardy herron before,, weird) and then migrate portions of my home folder as this laptop has been running on the present install since dapper
[10:05] <ani1> NET||abuse: the naming scheme follows the alphabet Gutsy was released then Hardy etc.
[10:05] <pulpfiction> anil: is .xpm an icon file?
[10:05] <NET||abuse> just been doing in-place updates
[10:06] <ubuntu> ubotu sorry, i wanted said GRUB...how repair my grub?
[10:06] <ani1> fiesty edgy dapper
[10:06] <rahsputin> good morning everybody!! I do not have a mouse and would like to use the mouse at some time with the NUM Pad arrows , all work "good" except for the speed, any way to speed it up ?
[10:06] <ani1> !grub | ubuntu
[10:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <musikgoat> NET||abuse: if you are in gutsy,  and you plan to do a full intall later anyways, have fun with the beta upgrade... but backup first
[10:07] <erry> How do u make xchat NOT connect to this place all the time
[10:07] <musikgoat> or not... and wait it out for 34 more days ;-)
[10:07] <erry> and i also wanna be in more than 1 server at the time
[10:07] <erry> how?
[10:07] <aperson> edit it in the server list
[10:07] <rahsputin> good morning everybody!! I do not have a mouse and would like to use the mouse at some time with the NUM Pad arrows , all work "good" except for the speed, any way to speed it up ?
[10:07] <erry> in the what?
[10:07] <erry> how to fix it
[10:07] <erry> i dunno
[10:07] <peta> hi
[10:07] <ani1> erry: you can go to Xchat new server tab or ctrl + t
[10:08] <erry> ctrl t does nothing
[10:08] <ubuntu> anil i formated partition where the ubuntu are intalled and converted for fat32, now don't access more neither windows...
[10:08] <herbmaster01> hey, is the new Ubuntu 8.04 with SE stabil ?
[10:08] <ani1> erry: it gives me a new tab
[10:08] <erry> i see no tab
[10:08] <aperson> xchat>network list
[10:08] <erry> no such menu
[10:08] <aperson> edit the ubuntu server
[10:08] <ani1> Xchat->new->server tab
[10:08] <erry> no such menu!
[10:08] <ani1> what version
[10:08] <erry> 0.18
[10:09] <erry> o_O
[10:09] <ani1> upgrade to 2.8.4
[10:09] <NET||abuse> musikgoat, hmm, that's a point... meh.. i've got 15 spare hard drives lying around and a multi adapter[ide 2.5" & 3.5"|sata] external enclosure
[10:09] <ubuntu> i need repair it's grub for LIVE cd ubuntu...
[10:09] <erry> how?
[10:09] <rahsputin> i think should write it out a bit better: ok, i use the NUM Pad to move my Mouse Arrow, and i would like to speed it up cause it is really really slow
[10:09] <erry> Isn't there a mirc for linux?
[10:09] <caffeineguy> erry: go irq connect
[10:09] <erry> go where?
[10:09] <ani1> !info xchat | erry
[10:09] <ubotu> erry: xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[10:09] <caffeineguy> *irc
[10:09] <musikgoat> NET||abuse: tar up what you've got then, and have at it
[10:10] <erry> it has there
[10:10] <caffeineguy> erry top left corner
[10:10] <erry> some servers i dont even know
[10:10] <caffeineguy> erry: irc
[10:10] <erry> Yes
[10:10] <erry> I clicked
[10:10] <erry> and it has some servers i dont even know
[10:10] <erry> And it makes me cry
[10:10] <erry> After all i did to fix the wireless thing
[10:10] <musikgoat> you don't want to join freenode, so what do you want to join erry
[10:11] <erry> Another network
[10:11] <erry> I want to join theat one any probs?
[10:11] <musikgoat> what other network
[10:11] <erry> *that
[10:11] <erry> axpi2
[10:11] <erry> wyldryde
[10:11] <erry> surrealchat
[10:11] <erry> those
[10:11] <erry> ok?
[10:11] <caffeineguy> erry: preferences network
[10:11] <musikgoat> !enter | erry
[10:11] <ubotu> erry: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:11] <erry> :P
[10:11] <erry> Im used to doigng that
[10:11] <ani1> dont
[10:11] <erry> ill try
[10:12] <jessica> hi
[10:12] <musikgoat> if you want to join other networks,   other irc networks,  they have addresses, like irc.freenode.net and such
[10:12] <rahsputin> erry,  google them and type "/server whatever fits for your needs
[10:12] <oxymoron> Hmm. I was trying to enable nvidia servers, but got the following error:
[10:12] <oxymoron> Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /car/lib/x11/XF86Config-4.md5sum are missing from your system
[10:12] <erry> I KNOW
[10:12] <erry> THE ADDRESS
[10:12] <jessica> i have a problem with my webcam
[10:12] <erry> I JUST WANT TO BE
[10:12] <erry> IN 2 SERVERS
[10:12] <erry> in the same time
[10:12] <FloodBot2> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:12] <jessica> i can get it wroking just my whole system freezeas
[10:12] <erry> ...
[10:12] <NET||abuse> erry, hit ctrl+t, then a new "server tab" opens
[10:13] <rahsputin> erry, then just type "/server <your address>
[10:13] <musikgoat> hah
[10:13] <ani1> too late
[10:13] <NET||abuse> oops
[10:13] <musikgoat> frustrated?
[10:13] <ani1> hehe
[10:13]  * oxymoron keeps on hitting his head against the wall.
[10:13] <rahsputin> :D
[10:13] <ani1> oxymoron: are you enabling restricted drivers?
[10:13]  * rahsputin hits his against his dead mouse
[10:14] <oxymoron> sec.
[10:14] <rahsputin> i think should write it out a bit better: ok, i use the NUM Pad to move my Mouse Arrow, and i would like to speed it up cause it is really really slow
[10:14] <ani1> oxymoron: under sys ->admin
[10:14]  * musikgoat hits his head against a soft pillow,  gn all
[10:14] <rahsputin> night
[10:14] <oxymoron> Add/rem says I am. >_>
[10:15] <ani1> they show "in use" with green checkbox? it wont be under add remove program under sys->admin->restricted drivers manager
[10:15] <ani1> !nvidia | oxymoron
[10:15] <lintel> hi, I just tried the new 8.04ß KDE4 Live CD. My QN: If my Atheros AR5007eg isn't supported => then the same occurs for Ubuntu and I can 4get Hardy for my laptop?
[10:15] <ubotu> oxymoron: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <ani1> lintel: read the topic #ubuntu+1
[10:16] <ani1> !hardy | lintel
[10:16] <ubotu> lintel: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:18] <Finnish> Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Gutsy on Acer Aspire 1360-laptop with Unichrome video card?
[10:18] <rahsputin> i have NO mouse and use the NUM Pad to move the Mouse Arrow around but it so so slow, any way to speed it up ?
[10:19] <NET||abuse> rahsputin, that's a little vague,,, can you clarify the situation further?
[10:20] <Dr_willis_> I thought there was some control/shift key combo to speed up mouse movement when using the numpad-mouse-emulation thing
[10:21] <rahsputin> well, i havent got a mouse to click and move around, i use the Strg/Shift and Num ( NUM Pad on the right hand side of my keyboard ) to move the Mouse arrow around. But the arrow movement is very very slow, how can i get more speed on it
[10:21] <skeeel> hello hello i have trouble setting the 3D with an ati radeon2400hd pro , i followed the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648061 instructions but it don't work
[10:21] <Klement> Can anyone help with missing /dev/mapper?
[10:28] <icesword> hello
[10:28] <icesword> a little silent
[10:28] <icesword> maybe coz hardy is coming?
[10:28] <Silvr2008> ...its 4am here
[10:29] <icesword> ohoh
[10:29] <icesword> Silvr2008, like you are at stastes?which county
[10:29] <ani1> ...
[10:30] <ani1> as if the time zone isn't obvious
[10:30] <Silvr2008> I am in Oregon
[10:30] <neko_> hi people
[10:30] <Silvr2008> not quite 4 yet. 3:30
[10:30] <Silvr2008> hi neko
[10:30] <icesword> 18:30
[10:31] <nagyv> hello! could someone help me to quickly switch the language of gnome? I use it now in Hungarian, English is installed, and I should work together with a friend. So I would like to switch only for one session.
[10:31]  * oxymoron keeps on hitting his head against the wall.
[10:32] <xoqa> is it possible to recieve radio (am, fm, short-wave, etc.) through say your wifi card?
[10:32] <icesword> oxymoron, are you kingkong,and you lost your girl friend
[10:32] <oxymoron> No.
[10:32] <icesword> hohoho
[10:32] <oxymoron> I just broke my ubuntu a little more.
[10:32] <oxymoron> >_>
[10:32] <oxymoron> <_<
[10:32] <icesword> xoqa, yeah,you can
[10:32] <ani1> oxymoron: what was the issue
[10:33] <oxymoron> I get an error when I try to enable nvidia-glx
[10:33] <Silvr2008> nagyv  system>administration>language support
[10:33] <elgatofelix> hi can someone help me to check if my ssh server is configured ok ?
[10:33] <Silvr2008> ...i think
[10:33] <oxymoron> Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /car/lib/x11/XF86Config-4.md5sum are missing from your system
[10:34] <ani1> oxymoron: did you check the restricted drivers manager?
[10:34] <icesword> elgatofelix, tell them your port
[10:34] <ani1> elgatofelix: can you ssh localhost?
[10:34] <neko_> Is it possible to have two distincts internet connections and make them as only one ?
[10:34] <nagyv> Silvr2008: I tried it, and then restarted X, but it's still Hungarian. Moreover, I don't like to switch the whole system, just my own session.
[10:34] <oxymoron> what about it?
[10:34] <oxymoron> NVidia is enabled there.
[10:35] <ani1> oxymoron: is it in use? it will automatically setup the driver for you
[10:35] <nagyv> hmm, I get an idea from a fedora forum, will be back soon
[10:35] <xoqa> icesword: do you know how?
[10:35] <oxymoron> it is in use.
[10:35] <icesword> xoqa, what ?what issue
[10:35] <ani1> oxymoron: whats giving this error ?
[10:35] <xoqa> icesword: how to receive fm/am/sw radio through wifi
[10:35] <oxymoron> when I type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in terminal
[10:36] <oxymoron> Both kernel and glx should be the latest version.
[10:36] <icesword> xoqa, that is say,you connect to internel through wifi
[10:36] <icesword> internet
[10:36] <ani1> oxymoron: i would install nvidia-settings to change/modify xsettings its a GUI tool and very easy to change resolution and auto conf xorg.conf
[10:37] <neko_> ??? there is a way to receive radio with a wifi card ?
[10:37] <elgatofelix> ani1 have u read my pm ?
[10:37] <ani1> elgatofelix: didnt get it
[10:37] <ani1> elgatofelix: i probably have them blocked on this nick ask in the main chat
[10:37] <xoqa> icesword: ? i´m not trying to use wireless for internet, i´d like to pick up thevarious radio signals that are being broadcasted
[10:37] <Silvr2008> I am not a science guy, but I think AM/FM freq is much lower right?
[10:38] <oxymoron> ani1: I see, will do that. I will get back to you if there's no progress.
[10:38] <elgatofelix> do u have msn ?
[10:38] <elgatofelix> or gmail
[10:38] <icesword> xoqa, i beg your pardon,are you using a computer
[10:38] <ani1> elgatofelix: i would becareful giving out your ip/port number as it can be brute forced
[10:38] <elgatofelix> yeah
[10:38] <xoqa> icesword: yep
[10:38] <icesword> xoqa, can computer recieve radio signals?i have no idea?
[10:38] <Joeb454> elgatofelix, go to www.whatismyip.org
[10:39] <Joeb454> and try to ssh to that ip
[10:39] <xoqa> heh, k
[10:39] <Silvr2008> Wouldnt you need an FM tuner card for you PC? Not a wifi card...
[10:39] <Joeb454> if you want to get to it from the outside that is :)
[10:39] <elgatofelix> ok can u pm  me
[10:39] <ani1> elgatofelix: join #infurnus
[10:39] <elgatofelix> i ll give user pass and ip
[10:39] <icesword> xoqa, usually you need to its some radio station website address
[10:40] <elgatofelix> Joeb454 i am in the channel
[10:42] <icesword> xoqa, even as you said,there maybe some laptop has a function to recieve radio signals,but i haven't heard of
[10:44] <dgjones> xoqa, to receive radio signals, you would need a dedicated am/fm card, although as icesword suggests a lot of radio stations broadcast over the internet as well, try https://www.reciva.com/ to see if the statiion you want is listed, advantage  of over the internet is that quality is normally a lot better
[10:44] <rrob> hi, is possible to lock in gnome desktop icon position ... ?
[10:45] <olivier_> Hola les gens
[10:45] <ajmorris> !spanish | olivier_
[10:45] <ubotu> olivier_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:46] <olivier_> Oups désolé
[10:46] <olivier_> Heu je suis français
[10:46] <olivier_> sorry :)
[10:46] <ajmorris> mdr, je suis desole
[10:46] <ajmorris> you mixed spanish and french :P
[10:46] <icesword> god,bird languauge?
[10:46] <olivier_> Sont français les gens ici ou pas ? Capte rien là lol
[10:46] <ani1> !fr | olivier_
[10:46] <ubotu> olivier_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:46] <amortvigil> who has a good ubuntu-glx-new installation tutorial because im getting crazy installing it
[10:47] <ani1> !nvidia | amortvigil
[10:47] <ubotu> amortvigil: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <UraniumD> Hi
[10:47] <ani1> !hi > UraniumD
[10:47] <UraniumD> i need help about my laptop
[10:48] <amortvigil> anil that was kind of you... but that isnt giving any help
[10:48] <icesword> UraniumD, ?
[10:49] <UraniumD> got asus F5N
[10:49] <UraniumD> want to install ubuntu
[10:49] <abhi_> is there any good utility with which i can video capture my screen and save it as a file?
[10:49] <UraniumD> got problems with drivers for ubuntu
[10:50] <icesword> abhi_, i think mplayer has that one inside
[10:50] <icesword> check it out
[10:50] <icesword> UraniumD, keep your thing in one line,okay
[10:51] <RabidWeezle> heh, kiba dock is pretty tight
[10:51] <ani1> !away > ajmorris|AFK
[10:52] <Ven]n> when i do this line: xrandr --output VGA --mode 800x600 --right-of LVDS
[10:52] <Ven]n> the res on my eee is changed as well
[10:52] <Ven]n> my eee = my laptop
[10:52] <Ven]n> why is that?
[10:53] <ubuntu> anybody help me.
[10:53] <Radit> How do I copy files from my ipod to my hard disk?
[10:53] <Black_Magic_> hi
[10:54] <Black_Magic_> Could someone tell me why my WD Passport isnt being picked up?
[10:54] <ani1> Radit: cd /path/where/ipod/is/mounted then cp file /to/path/you/want/file/to/go
[10:54] <Radit> join #rhythmbox
[10:54] <xoqa> is it possible to pinpoint exactly where a wireless signal is coming from?
[10:54] <ani1> Black_Magic_: is it in dmesg output?
[10:55] <ubuntu> my grab are display "erro 22"...
[10:55] <ubuntu> what do?
[10:55] <Black_Magic_> #WD Passport
[10:55] <Radit> ani1, I mean MP3s is there a way to do it..?
[10:56] <Black_Magic_> xoqa: I think Kismet Can do that
[10:56] <carl0s-> When 8.04 is released, will it automagically pick up my md RAID5 & lvm volume that I'm currently using with Fedora 8? I only store data on there (/home), so I don't actually need to install Ubuntu onto the raid volume, just be sure it doesn't get destroyed..
[10:56] <ani1> !ipod | Radit
[10:56] <ubotu> Radit: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:56] <ani1> !hardy | carl0s-
[10:56] <ubotu> carl0s-: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:57] <carl0s-> ani1, I already knew that ;)
[10:58] <ani1> hardy support and questions are in #ubuntu+1 NOT #ubuntu
[10:58] <sandeep> doc
[10:58] <Black_Magic_> ani1: Naah also it wasnt in /dev either
[10:58] <sandeep> -doc
[10:58] <carl0s-> ani1, ah, I do apologise.. I missed that part of the message above ;)
[10:58] <ani1> np
[10:58] <sandeep> #ubuntu-doc
[10:59] <ani1> sandeep: what are you looking for?
[10:59] <sandeep> i wanted to join the support group for documentation of ubuntu.
[10:59] <andylockran> 
[11:00] <Rymboy> A fresh ubuntu doesnt recognize my ntfs partitions
[11:00] <Rymboy> *isntall
[11:01] <Rymboy> when i go to /media it says that my disks are all 6 gb
[11:01] <Rymboy> and 0 gb free
[11:01] <ani1> !ntfs > Rymboy
[11:01] <ani1> !info ntfs-3g
[11:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[11:02] <Rymboy> sure but
[11:02] <Rymboy> yesterday i also did a fresh install
[11:02] <Rymboy> and they worked right away..
[11:02] <ani1> do you have that package installed?
[11:02] <xoqa> Black_Magic_: thanks :)
[11:02] <xoqa> ill check it out
[11:02] <Rymboy> why would it suddenly choose not to install the package?
[11:04] <ani1> Rymboy: sudo aptitude show ntfs-3g | grep State
[11:04] <ani1> see if its even installed
[11:04] <Rymboy> kk
[11:04] <Rymboy> lemme reboot in ubuntu, i needed something off my windisk.
[11:07] <linuxnewpersonal> just had error on update manager .  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:08] <_Tux__> hey... how do I move multiple files from one dir to another one and keep the filenames?
[11:08] <rym> k back
[11:09] <rym> apitude command not found
[11:09] <ani1> _Tux__:  cp -R or cp * -R depending if you want recursive subdirectories as well
[11:09] <ani1> aptitude
[11:09] <rym> ah
[11:09] <ani1> _Tux__: man cp for more info
[11:09] <rym> its installed
[11:10] <_Tux__> yes but thats copying the files not moving them..isnt it?
[11:10] <ani1> eh move is mv
[11:10] <_Tux__> yes but with mv you need to supply the file names in the  destination...
[11:10] <_Tux__> so when moving mult' files,how can I supply all the names...
[11:11] <ani1> mv * /destination/path
[11:11] <ani1> it will move all files in that directory somewhere else
[11:12] <rym> anil the package is installed
[11:12] <ani1> rym: what was your problem? were you needing to mount a NTFS partition?
[11:12] <rym> well I just reinstalled ubuntu
[11:12] <rym> but i cant access my drives
[11:13] <rym> ntfs drives that is
[11:13] <ani1> rym: have you been able to mount them?
[11:13] <rym> theyŕe already mounted
[11:13] <rym> ./media/win[1-3]
[11:14] <ani1> rym: are you getting permission denied when you try to cd into the dir?
[11:14] <rym> nope
[11:14] <rym> but itś empty
[11:14] <ani1> rym: are you sure you mounted the correct partition?
[11:14] <rym> i havent really changed anything from install
[11:14] <rym> but im fairly sure.
[11:15] <rym> how can i unmount/ mount again
[11:15] <Viroid> русские есть?
[11:15] <_Tux__> mv * "/home/nathan/Music   Doesnt work
[11:15] <ompaul> !ru | Viroid
[11:15] <ubotu> Viroid: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:15] <ani1> rym: type mount to see currently mounted devices then use sudo umount /dev/xxx
[11:15] <_Tux__> doesnt do anything
[11:15] <dd123> hallo
[11:15] <_Tux__> mv * "/home/nathan/Music"
[11:15] <ompaul> !de | dd123
[11:15] <ubotu> dd123: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:15] <rym> mount doesnt show my windrives
[11:16] <rym> where can i see my options?
[11:16] <ompaul> !ntfs | rym
[11:16] <ubotu> rym: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:16] <ani1> rym: then you need to mount it
[11:16] <danand_> rym - sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions and show the file system type
[11:17] <_Tux__> well it works
[11:17] <_Tux__> hehhe..10x
[11:17] <_Tux__> for the helo
[11:17] <danand_> _Tux__ - try mv * /home/nathan/Music/ - see the / on the end
[11:17] <rym> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[11:18] <_Tux__> danand_:works perfectly....thanks!!!
[11:18] <rym> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[11:18] <rym> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not supported
[11:19] <ani1> rym: well one reason is you need to do a clean shutdown in windows this used to happens to my external i unplug it without shutting down windows
[11:19] <rym> oh man
[11:19] <rym> that takes ages
[11:19] <ani1> rym: i use the -o force option but it can cause data loss i have never had that happen to me but its possible
[11:19] <csaba> is there some good painting program for ubuntu that is like MS Paint?
[11:19] <rym> even in linux windows continues to bug me
[11:19] <ani1> now i have my external stuck mounted although the device hasnt been plugged in in weeks
[11:19] <rym> unbelievable ;p
[11:19] <csaba> gnu paint is buggy
[11:20] <rym> anil is shutdown -r -t 0 a clean shutdown
[11:20] <rym> or do forced shutdowns not count
[11:20] <ani1> csaba: gimp gpaint  tuxpaint
[11:21] <ompaul> rym, forced does not count - start windows close windows nicely _OR_ reformat as something a real o/s can use and live a better life as a result
[11:21] <ani1> rym: eh i dont know windows shutdown -t 0 -r is in 0 seconds a reboot you want -s shutdown
[11:21] <icechat> how do i boot someone from my linux box
[11:21] <ompaul> rym, and ##windows for windows help
[11:21] <rym> oh i actually have to turn off my pc
[11:21] <rym> yeah i understand ompaul
[11:22] <DRebellion> icechat, what do you mean
[11:22] <rym> thing is if i dont do a forced shutdown windows takes about 45 mins to save my settings
[11:22] <rym> but fine.
[11:22] <icechat> or how do you remove a user on your linux box causing trouble
[11:22] <ompaul> icechat, (A) remove their ability to log in again * in front of password in /etc/shadow.db and then (B) sudo kill -9 all their processes
[11:22] <icechat> kick them off
[11:22] <Yancho> i have /dev/hda5 which is an unused windows partition .. how can i format it please? and also how can i use the 15GB space it has as a place to download apt-get files in it please?
[11:23] <ompaul> icechat, of course if they have ssh logins you need to disable those
[11:23] <ani1> Yancho: gparted
[11:24] <DRebellion> Yancho, format it as what?
[11:24] <Yancho> ani1 i can only unmount it
[11:24] <Yancho> DRebellion anything - as long as it can be used
[11:24] <oxymoron> Woot. My nooby self got the nvidia driver installed? ^^
[11:24] <DRebellion> Yancho, by linux only or shared between linux/windows?
[11:25] <drainman> if i install the heron beta now will it update it self to final when the release is?
[11:25] <Yancho> linux only should be enough
[11:25] <DRebellion> Yancho, sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda5
[11:25] <DRebellion> Yancho, after unmounting of course
[11:25] <ani1> !hardy > drainman
[11:26] <ani1> read the topic
[11:26] <Yancho> DRebellion one last check before i do it please - how can i make sure that the windows partition is not loading from there?
[11:26] <Moduliz0r> how would I go about using SPD/IF out in Ubuntu?
[11:26] <DRebellion> Yancho, i dunno...
[11:27] <arcticpenguin380> could i be suffering from fragmentation?
[11:27] <arcticpenguin380> My write speeds are down to 3MB/s
[11:27] <ani1> !defrag > arcticpenguin380
[11:28] <Viroid>  Доброе время суток! Я извеняюсь за беспокойство, но всё же обратиться больше не к кому. Я не знаю по какой причине мне поставили бан на канале #ubuntu-ru. Не подскажите как мне попасть в приват к оператору этого канала, что бы узнат причину?
[11:28] <ani1> !ru | Viroid
[11:28] <ubotu> Viroid: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:29] <Yancho> DRebellion and there is no risk that i break /dev/hda7 right?
[11:29] <Yancho> where it is my /home
[11:29] <DRebellion> Yancho, no, they are completely seperate
[11:29] <ani1> Yancho: cd /home then df .
[11:29] <ani1> Yancho: notice the peroid
[11:29] <ani1> period*
[11:29] <mykx> can you set process priorities with ubuntu? if so could someone please explain the methods
[11:30] <Moduliz0r> How do I use SPDIF outputs in Ubuntu?
[11:30] <ani1> mykx: man renice
[11:30] <Yancho> ani1 : /dev/hda7 10863140 10200384 442024 96% /
[11:31] <ani1> thats your home Yancho it resides on /dev/hda7
[11:31] <mykx> ani1: I'm not sure I understand what man renice means
[11:31] <ani1> mykx: from the terminal type man renice
[11:31] <mykx> ah thanks
[11:31] <ani1> mykx: also look up man nice
[11:32] <Yancho> oki i did that command - now how can i use the space please? shall i move /usr/lib directory into that space than i do a symbolic link? my main problem is that my /home is 94% and i need some space so i can update ubuntu
[11:33] <ani1> Yancho: your whole system is mounted on /dev/hda7 not just your home folder
[11:34] <Yancho> a yeah right
[11:34] <amortvigil> does any one know how to work arround this error while starting glest?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60401/
[11:35] <ani1> Yancho:  i use my other disks to store misc files. I dont know the repercussions of moving /usr/lib to another disk the mounting it under /usr/lib i would probably say it could cause problems but i am not the best person to ask hopefully somebody else will chime in
[11:35] <foxiness> am working with GPRS conn ,the epiphany change to workoffline often when am online ,how can i tell the network manager am online or is there workaround ?
[11:36] <ani1> amortvigil: glest doesnt look to be in the repo have you tried their mailing list or forum?
[11:36] <noflex> Sådan virker det nu?
[11:36] <dimitris> Hello \
[11:36] <ani1> !english | noflex
[11:37] <ubotu> noflex: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:37] <amortvigil> anil yeah i need a new video driver
[11:37] <dimitris> I have a problem with ubuntu and i'm totally new to this
[11:37] <ani1> foxiness: i heard something about this the other night with ppp connections in firefox thinking that your offline when your not also happens with data cards. I dont remember *exactly* but i believe its fixed with hardy
[11:38] <ani1> amortvigil: i donno how familiar you are with installing drivers but if your new this will help
[11:38] <jng> i just installed hardy and in the install it spotted my gutsy install and offered to import accounts -- neat.  I passed on the option (not sure how much it would have done) but wonder if there is any way to do this post-install -- or any doc of what it would have done?
[11:38] <ani1> !binarydriver
[11:38] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <foxiness> ani1, am working on hardy
[11:39] <ani1> foxiness: then join #ubuntu+1 read the topic
[11:39] <ani1> !hardy > foxiness
[11:39] <dimitris> after installing ubuntu gutsy ,i made the upgrades that i was asked to to ,it told me to restart the systm ,and now i'm not in ubuntu but n another one called xface
[11:39] <ani1> !hardy jng
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy jng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <dimitris> Please help me
[11:39] <ani1> !hardy | jng
[11:39] <ubotu> jng: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:40] <ani1> dimitar: you should be able to select the session when you login is GNOME or KDE not an option?
[11:40] <ani1> err dimitris**
[11:40] <ani1> sorry dimitar
[11:40] <freexe> Should a Intel Core 2 Duo show up as two separate CPUs in top?
[11:40] <dimitris> anil yes?
[11:40] <ani1> dimitris:  you should be able to select the session when you login is GNOME or KDE not an option?
[11:41] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:41] <Ace2016> is it better to leave ssid broadcasting off or on from a security point of view
[11:41] <ani1> Ace2016: i leave mine off
[11:41] <DRebellion> Ace2016, makes no difference
[11:41] <dimitris> anil this dvd distro is for gnome
[11:42] <m00m0nkey> i have an external USB HD running on its own power, how can i make it spin-down after specified idle a period?
[11:42] <Bippe> anyone have a decent firewall to recommend to me ?
[11:42] <neoset> !raid
[11:42] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[11:42] <Ace2016> DRebellion: how can it make no difference? without ssid its hidden right?
[11:42] <ani1> Bippe: if you want a gui interface firestarter is excellent
[11:42] <DRebellion> Ace2016, no, it can be easily detected with tools like snort and kismet
[11:42] <DRebellion> Ace2016, plus its a pain to use if its not beaconing
[11:42] <NET||abuse> hmm, i'm having issues with D4X, i have an old download in the list, and it starts up and plays that weird intro music,, then the app becomes unresponsive.....
[11:42] <NET||abuse> how could i free up the program? get it working again?
[11:42] <Bippe> heh.. im'  still on the win* page, so a gui is still a must for me.. tnx btw  :)
[11:43] <dimitris> anil what am i doing ? I'm noob in Linux
[11:43] <ani1> Ace2016: the real security is with your key
[11:43] <NET||abuse> I need a download acceelerator tied in with Firefox
[11:43] <Nik0la0s> hello
[11:43] <Nik0la0s> how can i install gnome when i only have enlightment?
[11:43] <sansaro> hello pple
[11:43] <ani1> Bippe: no its not a must man iptables theirs a built in firewall
[11:43] <sansaro> plz i have prob i need some help
[11:43] <NET||abuse> I've tried flashgot tied in to another program... emmmm, what's it called... damn... well it was a firefox addon
[11:44] <ani1> !iptables > Bippe
[11:44] <NET||abuse> oh yeh, "Download Them All!"
[11:44] <NET||abuse> and it didn't really work very well
[11:44] <NET||abuse> kept restarting completed downloads
[11:44] <NET||abuse> so i've ditched that one..
[11:44] <dimitris> anil I installed ubuntu and now i'm in a xfce crap
[11:44] <DRebellion> !enter | NET||abuse
[11:44] <ubotu> NET||abuse: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:44] <Nik0la0s> ?
[11:44] <sansaro> i install xubuntu in to  SD card and i try to boot when i boot it the grub pop but when i select the OS i got this Error 17 : cant mount selected partation
[11:44] <NET||abuse> DRebellion, hmm, i appologise,
[11:45] <Ace2016> Bippe: a firewall for ubuntu? it doesn't need one, well most of the time ubuntu can be used as a firewall itself
[11:45] <Ace2016> thats why you get linux on quite a few routers
[11:45] <ani1> !grub | sansaro
[11:45] <ubotu> sansaro: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:45] <dimitris> CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
[11:45] <jpatrick> !caps | dimitris
[11:45] <ubotu> dimitris: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:45] <Ace2016> ok back network died
[11:46] <lingzehong> dimi what'wrong with you?
[11:46] <dimitris> sorry ,but you doesn't help
[11:46] <Ace2016> so DRebellionwhat were you saying about ssid making no difference?
[11:46] <ani1> lingzehong: he cant choose a GNOME session instead of a xfce one
[11:46] <Ace2016> so DRebellion what were you saying about ssid making no difference?
[11:46] <Xman> can anyone tell me what packages i should install inorder to user prolog compiler???
[11:47] <Ace2016> clearly its a job for ... K! D! E!
[11:47] <ani1> Ace2016: they can be detected with wireless sniffing tools is what he said
[11:47] <Nik0la0s> how can i install gnome when i only have enlightment?
[11:47] <sansaro> -.-; sorry to tell u i dont understand anything lol
[11:47] <peace> hello... i have about 30gb free space..and i would like to install windows xp :) ( 20gb for it )  is there possible to make this?
[11:47] <DRebellion> Ace2016, and if you have a non beaconing access point (eg no ssid) its a pain to connect to
[11:47] <chimp> you are asking this in an ubuntu support channel peace?
[11:47] <Xman> can anyone tell me what packages i should install inorder to use prolog compiler???
[11:47] <Ace2016> ani1: but suppose you wanted to jack a wireless, why jack a hidden one? why not jack one which broadcasts its ssid?
[11:47] <DRebellion> peace, yes, you need to create another partition for windows to sit in on your hard drive
[11:48] <dongdong> hi my mouse die on me is there any tuts on how to use ubuntu without depending on the mouse (i.e. commands through keyboard, termmminal)?
[11:48] <Ace2016> DRebellion: yes i know, i'm going through the setup now
[11:48] <DRebellion> Ace2016, makes no difference
[11:48] <sansaro> i have the grub already but when i select ubuntu i get this Error 17 : cannot mount selected partation
[11:48] <ani1> Ace2016: you speaking in hypothetical i care not to answer you question
[11:48] <peace> im on ubuntu gutsy :) i would like to install windows xp... any chance to make it not via virtualbox? :)
[11:48] <DRebellion> dongdong, yes, press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to terminal. use ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gui.
[11:48] <dimitris> Can anyone suggest me a room for ubuntu troubleshooting?
[11:48] <Ace2016> but why, there has to be a reason, i mean a hidden network is hidden, so why jack mine out of all the ones they can see right?
[11:48] <DRebellion> dimitris, right here :)
[11:49] <ani1> peace this is ubuntu support not windows xp if your having troubles installing windows /join ##windows
[11:49] <freexe> My Intel Core 2 Duo shows up as one CPU on gnome-system-monitor, should it show 2?
[11:49] <Xman> dimitris: right here it is the room man, :)
[11:49] <dimitris> it doesn't seem like that btw
[11:49] <ani1> !dualboot | peace
[11:49] <ubotu> peace: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:49] <DRebellion> Ace2016, makes no difference if it is beaconing or non beaconing. attackers will look for the network that has the weakest encryption
[11:49] <dimitris> so can you help me ?
[11:49] <peace> okay
[11:49] <Xman> can anyone tell me what packages i should install inorder to use prolog compiler???
[11:50] <Ace2016> DRebellion: Aes with a 63 randomly generated password, although i might add the Aes+ something else if i can get it to work
[11:50] <WooD> Hi ! I would like to ban an Ip from getting information on my web server ... I use Apache2 .. any clue on how to do this ?
[11:50] <ani1> sansaro: thats a pretty clear error message have  you check menu.lst to ensure you choosing the correct partition to boot?
[11:50] <dongdong> DRebellion: how do i maximise and minimise apps like gnome terminal as that would be handy and cant i use one terminal to control ubuntu itself
[11:50] <bluecake> !avi
[11:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:50] <Xman> dimitris: ask your question if anyone knows it he/she will reply to u.
[11:50] <DRebellion> WooD, add it to /etc/hosts.deny
[11:50] <WooD> DRebellion: thanks I try tihs
[11:51] <DRebellion> !info gprolog | Xman
[11:51] <ubotu> xman: gprolog (source: gprolog): GNU Prolog compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-3 (gutsy), package size 1260 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[11:51] <dongdong> DRebellion: im actually using gui as that is more pleasant for me but yeha would yu have command lines that would help someone like me until i buy a mouse
[11:51] <dimitris> Yesterday I've installed ubuntu gutsy ,i've made the updates and now in the morning there is no ubuntu but an xcfe
[11:51] <Ace2016> ok thanks i might just leave it off, maybe it'll act as a sign that the person who is using it knows what he is doing
[11:51] <DRebellion> dongdong, my best advice is to get a new mouse fast :P
[11:52] <Radit> hei ani1 thanks for your help.. :-)
[11:52] <dimitris> Xman do you know about this?
[11:52] <DRebellion> dimitris, 0_o you sure you didn't install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:52] <Ace2016> go with a logitech mouse, i tried a razer mouse, little linux support for it :(
[11:52] <oxymoron> Why do I get changed into low-resulution mode at logon (syaing that monitor/video card could not be found) when the ndivia settings should be set correctly? >_>
[11:52] <WooD> DRebellion: when modification are made into hosts.deny do I have to restart a service or something ?
[11:52]  * oxymoron hits himself.
[11:52] <DRebellion> WooD, no
[11:52] <WooD> ok
[11:52] <dongdong> DRebellion: yeah i thought that would be the best advice but today is some kind of off-day i.e. good friday or soemthing which is irony how it started with me, i havent seen the goodness of it
[11:53] <Xman> dimitris: it seems thats automatic updates have updated your system to xfce environment.
[11:53] <DRebellion> dongdong, heh, well i've got a day off school xD
[11:53] <dimitris> DRebelion 100% sure ,yesterday it asked me to do updates and i did from ubuntu gutsy ,
[11:53] <WooD> DRebellion: It does not work . he continues to flood my server ..
[11:54] <ani1> WooD: if you dont want it displaying server info check here /usr/share/apache2/error/
[11:54] <DRebellion> WooD, you sure you got the info right?
[11:54] <DRebellion> WooD, the syntax
[11:54] <WooD> I have only put the ip address into the hosts.deny ..
[11:54] <dimitris> Xman my dvd came from a special edition of ubuntu with pre installed libraris and videocodecs from the magazinelinuxformat grece
[11:54] <DRebellion> WooD, try:   ALL: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[11:55] <WooD> DRebellion: ok
[11:55] <oxymoron> Why do I keep on getting the low-resolution error when restarting my computer? Ndivia driver should be enabled correctly now.
[11:55] <dongdong> going to login in through cli brb
[11:55] <oxymoron> When I try to change the settings and click anything, it just starts in low-reso mode as usual.
[11:55] <ani1> oxymoron: use nvidia-settings and save the settings to X if it gives you a permissions error use gksu nvidia-settings it will let you set your res
[11:56] <WooD> DRebellion: Still not working..
[11:56] <foxiness> the output of badblocks are "Pass completed, 37 bad blocks found." ,what i need to do next?
[11:56] <dimitris> drebellion can you help?
[11:56] <Xman> dimitris: i am really sorry, i don't know much about that you r asking but keep asking to the channel people they will definitely help u.
[11:56] <DRebellion> dimitris, i dunno why it would do that, sorry
[11:56] <oxymoron> ani1: nvidia settings is not working correctly. I think I queried you with the error I get in terminal before.
[11:57] <legend2440> dimitris: you want to use gnome insted of xfce?
[11:57] <ani1> oxymoron: the only thing you asked about before was nvidia-glx-config i believe settings is a GUI tool
[11:57] <dimitris> legend2440 of course
[11:58] <oxymoron> how do I access the settings? </noob>
[11:58] <Xman> dimitris: if u don't get solution here then just go to ubuntu website and write there in the section of frequently asked questions.You can get your solution there also.
[11:58] <ani1> oxymoron: see if its installed sudo aptitude show nvidia-settings | grep State
[11:58] <WooD> DRebellion: I think I have to install denyhosts to get it work... is it possible ?
[11:58] <legend2440> dimitris: do you have it setup so it automatically log you in without typing user and password when you boot up?
[11:58] <DRebellion> WooD, only for ssh
[11:59] <dimitris> legend2440 that's correct
[11:59] <oxymoron> to install it, I need to uninstall glx, through
[11:59] <WooD> DRebellion: hooo :S I cant blok this IP :(
[12:00] <ani1> oxymoron: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and resetup xorg.conf  make sure to choose the res you want
[12:00] <dimitris> legend2440 know i had a paswd but know the login screen never appeared
[12:00] <ani1> WooD: you could always check with the #apache folks
[12:00] <fiq> mm
[12:00] <WooD> ani1: Yeah ..
[12:00] <fiq> help.
[12:01] <ani1> !ask > fig
[12:01] <ani1> !ask > fiq
[12:01] <legend2440> dimitris: type in terminal gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[12:01] <DRebellion> WooD, have you added the line:   "ALL: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" to the /etc/hosts.deny (without quotes)?
[12:01] <dimitris> legend2440 ok wait me please
[12:01] <legend2440> dimitris: type in terminal gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup and choose gnome
[12:01] <dury> hi there channel :)
[12:01] <fiq> ani1: im trying to install wine, but cant
[12:01] <fiq> ani1: it says,
[12:01] <Xman> can anyone tell me, is there any package through which i could be reported if there is any IP conflict???
[12:02] <legend2440> dimitris: type in terminal gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup and choose gnome where says default session
[12:02] <fiq> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:02] <fiq> wine: Depends: libaudio2 but it is not installable
[12:02] <bertvdp> hi, I want to know if this is possible and how: computer A has internet, computer B hasn't, can computer B get internet through A via USB ?
[12:02] <dury> I have a problem... I'm not able to delete all I type in the terminal
[12:03] <Xman> can anyone tell me, is there any package through which i could be reported if there is any IP conflict???
[12:03] <kamil_> Is it possible to use 2 soundcards simultaneously under Ubuntu ?
[12:03] <bertvdp> Xman: the system tells you if there is one
[12:03] <dimitris_> legend 2440 what to launch?
[12:03] <ani1> fiq: may wanna look at the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582630
[12:03] <legend2440> dimitris: type in terminal gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup and choose gnome where says default session
[12:04] <Xman> bertvdp: it not telling me man, thats why i am asking for a package.
[12:04] <bertvdp> Xman: it should, it did it over here some time ago
[12:04] <dury> how do I delete all I type in the terminal?
[12:04] <kamil_> drury: clear
[12:04] <neoset> anyone here successfully installed (k)ubuntu 8.04 on nvraid with installed XP on it?
[12:04] <fiq> ok
[12:04] <fiq> wait
[12:05] <ani1> !hardy | neoset
[12:05] <ubotu> neoset: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:05] <ani1> read the topic
[12:05] <dury> kamil_: clear is still another command
[12:05] <DRebellion> dury, you tried backspace?
[12:05] <ani1> lol
[12:05] <dimitris_> legend 2440 nothing happened
[12:06] <DRebellion> dimitris_, legend2440, that should be gksudo NOT gksu
[12:06] <Xman> bertvdp: i am running Ubuntu not Windows, in windows it reports me but in ubuntu its not.
[12:06] <urlwolf> hi, is there a 'log' command that works like a real-time tail?
[12:06] <urlwolf> if so, where can I get it?
[12:06] <DRebellion> dimitris_, legend2440, wait, theyre the same nevermind :P
[12:06] <dury> I mean it's in the memory or somewhere 'cause if you press the direction keys up and down it appears
[12:06] <bertvdp> Xman: well, on my ubuntu 7.10 installation it told me (at the same time as my mac, they had the conflict)
[12:07] <legend2440> DRebellion:  what is the same?
[12:07] <ani1> urlwolf: i use conky on the side of my desktop and it updates at any given interval theirs a huge thread on the forums but their are many other ways to do it
[12:07] <DRebellion> legend2440, nevermind my mistake
[12:07] <ani1> urlwolf: it monitors my logs
[12:07] <dimitris_> legend2440 nope it doesn't response visually at least
[12:08] <Xman> bertvdp: i am not talking about the conflict between the ethernet cards of the same system, i am talking about IP conflict between two different systems on the network.
[12:08] <urlwolf> thanks ani1;  conky works for system logs
[12:08] <urlwolf> but I was thinking some general tool for any log
[12:08] <urlwolf> concretely the rails development.log file
[12:08] <kamil_> How to enable 2 soundcards in Ubuntu ?
[12:08] <bertvdp> Xman: no I mean ip adresses, they both had 192.168.1.101
[12:08] <dimitris_> legend2440 is there a posibility having hardware incompatibility?
[12:09] <dury> DRebellion: you know what I mean?
[12:09] <kamil_> I need to use both
[12:09] <dury> I mean it's in the memory or somewhere 'cause if you press the direction keys up and down it appears
[12:09] <Xman> nertvdp: but why gutsy is not reporting me man.?
[12:09] <Xman> bertvdp: but why gutsy is not reporting me man.?
[12:10] <bertvdp> Xman: I don't know
[12:10] <legend2440> dimitris it won't take effect until you reboot but first type gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup and go to security and uncheck  enable automatic login to be safe then you can choose the window manager when you boot up
[12:10] <bertvdp> Xman: checking packages now
[12:10] <dimitris_> legend2440 before instaling ubuntu i run the partition editor via live cd is this a problem?
[12:10] <fiq> ive downloaded the libaudio2 packages and still cannot install it
[12:10] <ani1> fiq: same error?
[12:11] <legend2440> dimitris no i don't think so
[12:11] <Slart> kamil_: I use 2 soundcards in ubuntu.. there's nothing special you have to do.. how do you want it to work?
[12:11] <fiq> yes
[12:11] <urlwolf> ani1: found it: tail -f log/development.log
[12:11] <urlwolf> thanks
[12:11] <fiq> still cant install it
[12:11] <bertvdp> Xman: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[12:11]  * N3bunel saluta
[12:11] <ani1> heh urlwolf conky should be able to also do that
[12:11] <dury> all you type in terminal is registered somewhere how can I delete it
[12:11] <Xman> bertvdp: ubuntu 7.10.
[12:12] <dimitris_> legend2440 where is the security thing?
[12:12] <bertvdp> Xman: then I don't know what's going wrong nmapplet works fine here :S
[12:12] <ani1> fiq: although it may not help try sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[12:12] <fiq> ok wait
[12:12] <Slart> dury: you mean the bash history?
[12:12] <Xman> bertvdp: nmapplet is a package??
[12:12] <dury> Slart: yeah
[12:12] <amortvigil> is ubuntu 8.04 erg buggy?
[12:12] <legend2440> dimitris gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup then go to security tab
[12:13] <ani1> !hardy > amortvigil read the topic
[12:13] <glowy> my ubuntu installation is stuck at 100%. what to do?
[12:13] <fiq> ani1: then what should i do
[12:13] <Xman> bertvdp: nmapplet is a package??
[12:14] <ani1> fiq: try to install wine
[12:14] <ani1> Xman: he left
[12:14] <dimitris_> legend2440 as i said there is no response it just take the call and the cursor goes to the end of the next line
[12:14] <desna> tha_alone
[12:14] <FR33> alguem pode me dar uma ajuda com o meu gnome??
[12:14] <Xman> anil: oh sorry yaa
[12:14] <Slart> dury: try history -c
[12:14] <dimitris_> legend2440 waiting for another
[12:15] <fiq> when i try to install the libaudio2 package, it says Error: dependency is not satisfiable
[12:15] <ani1> Xman: /usr/bin/nm-applet
[12:15] <xoob> hi guys what's the key combination to press to get immediate shutdown?
[12:15] <dimitris_> legend2440 is there a file where can i acces it with an editor?
[12:15] <dury> Slart: in terminal
[12:15] <ani1> fiq: eh i dont have any other suggestions i would try searching the forums
[12:15] <Slart> dury: yes.. in a terminal
[12:16] <fiq> still with: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:16] <fiq>   wine: Depends: libaudio2 but it is not installable
[12:16] <fiq> E: Broken packages
[12:16] <fiq> i searched the forums, the solution is to download the libaudio2 packages and install it
[12:16] <fiq> ive done this and the error pops up.
[12:17] <dimitris_> legend2440 should i unistall ubuntu and return to windows :)
[12:17] <dury> Slart: great it works, really appreciate your support believe me
[12:17] <dury> Slart: thanks a lot :)
[12:17] <Exteris> dimitris_, what is the problem?
[12:17] <dongdong> how can i run banshee/exile in terminal 6 (cli command)?
[12:17] <Slart> dury: you're welcome
[12:18] <Xman> anil: can u tell me, is there any package through i can be aware of, if there is any IP conflict between the two systems on the network??
[12:18] <dury> Slart: that command in every linux?
[12:18] <Exteris> dongdong, you can't, it's a gui program
[12:18] <dimitris_> Exteris i installed ubuntu and after the upgrades there is no ubunu gutsy but an xcfce thing
[12:18] <MenZa> Exteris: Yes you can. As long as you specify a display.
[12:19] <MenZa> $ DISPLAY=0 banshee
[12:19] <MenZa> for instance
[12:19] <ani1> Xman: eh i dont have that problem never looked i just ifconfig to check my setups
[12:19] <Exteris> MenZa, but a display needs to be available
[12:19] <MenZa> Yes, that's correct.
[12:19] <dimitris_> Exteris which is really ugly
[12:19] <Slart> dury: I think it's a part of bash.. that many distro's use..
[12:19] <Exteris> dimitris_, you can login though?
[12:19] <dongdong> Exteris: isnt there a cli music app?
[12:19] <MenZa> dongdong: mpd with mpc is pretty good for the terminal.
[12:19] <ani1> Xman: i make mental notes and keep physical logs of my machines but i only have a few :\
[12:20] <dimitris_> Exteris yes aso i can com with you via xchat
[12:20] <Exteris> dimitris_, try to install the package
[12:20] <Exteris> dimitris_, ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <dongdong> MenZa: mpd & mpc - what aplyers are those?
[12:20] <Exteris> dongdong, mpd is a player daemon, mpc is a client that connects to it
[12:20] <dury> Slart: right :)
[12:20] <dimitris_> Exteris with the sudo apt-get ...?
[12:20] <Exteris> yes dimitris_
[12:21] <MenZa> dongdong: mpd is a the "Music Player Daemon" which runs in the background of your system. mpc is just an application to control it. There's other interfaces for it as well, for when you're in X, e.g. gmpc and such
[12:21] <MenZa> It'll require you to read a few manpages probably, dongdong, but it's nothing too bad to configure.
[12:21] <xoob> there was some sort of keybinding causing immediate ubuntu shutdown, going straight into kernel or something, anyone know what keys?
[12:21] <Xxi> Hi all- i've reloaded package lists after updating synaptic, but still can't find the latest gnome updates.
[12:21] <dongdong> Exteris, MenZa: how can i get it?
[12:21] <Keneo> I have a question about the ubuntu-countdown script
[12:21] <MenZa> xoob: Magic SysRq - ALT + SysRQ + R-E-I-S-U-B
[12:21] <Keneo> it doesn't seem to work
[12:21] <MenZa> dongdong: sudo apt-get install mpd mpc
[12:22] <Xxi> 2.20.2 ?
[12:22] <Keneo> the site ask's me for the ubuntu website admin credentials
[12:22] <dimitris_> Exteris it says ubuntu is already the newest desktop!!! LOL
[12:22] <Keneo> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[12:22] <dongdong> MenZa: will do that now
[12:22] <xoob> MenZa, ok thanks
[12:22] <MenZa> Works for me, Keneo
[12:22] <Exteris> dimitris_, then run sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop , but don't do it if it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[12:22] <Keneo> I'm using firefox 2.0.0.12
[12:23] <NET||abuse> if I want to use a .ttf font in gimp,, should i put it under ~/.fonts/ or is there a gimp specific fonts directory i could put it under so it only loads up with gmp rather than bog my desktop down with extra fonts?
[12:23] <Keneo> it say's: enter username and password for "ubuntu wesbite admin" at https://www-admin.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <Exteris> Keneo, you can cancel that
[12:23] <dimitris_> Exteris it says xubuntu destop is not installed so can't removed
[12:23] <Keneo> site works, but I don't see the result
[12:24] <MenZa> NET||abuse: ~/.fonts is probably your best bet. Afterwards, run sudo fc-cache -r
[12:24] <Exteris> dimitris, then how on earth do you get xubuntu stuff :P
[12:24] <Exteris> dimitris_, go to the login window settings
[12:24] <dark_senses> i have a quick question.. i want to dual boot my laptop, but i see that ubuntu 8.1 is coming soon- if i put 7.1 on a while, can you upgrade to 8.1 through 7.1? or do i have to reinstall the whole ubuntu os?
[12:24] <MenZa> dark_senses: You mean 7.10 and 8.04 - and yes, you can.
[12:24] <dongdong> MenZa: sudo apt-get mpd mpc gives me that mpd is invalid
[12:24] <dark_senses> 8.04* sorry
[12:25] <NET||abuse> MenZa, i just did it under ~/.fonts and then loaded up gimp, it picked it up straight away, didn't run fc-cache -r
[12:25] <MenZa> dongdong: huh? Pastebin your error message.
[12:25] <Exteris> dongdong, sudo apt-get install mpd mpc
[12:25] <Exteris> MenZa, he forgot the install
[12:25] <MenZa> NET||abuse: interesting. Nifty. :)
[12:25] <dark_senses> k ty lots menza
[12:25] <MenZa> Exteris: oh dur.
[12:25] <MenZa> dongdong: sudo apt-get install mpc mpd
[12:25] <Keneo> Exteris: I'll just contact the webmaster..
[12:25] <NET||abuse> MenZa, just looked in ~/.gim-2.4/ there's a fonts directory in there, i'll try moving the font into that instead,, reload gimp and see if it stil reads the font in
[12:25] <MenZa> NET||abuse: Sure. :)
[12:25] <NET||abuse> sorry,, ~/.gimp-2.4/   typo
[12:26] <MenZa> Well, I got the message. :)
[12:26] <dimitris_> Exteris ican see future there...it says default session "Run Xclent Script
[12:26] <dongdong> Exteris, MenZa: sorry it was my fault it works now with the whole install line added
[12:26] <MenZa> dongdong: good good
[12:26] <Exteris> dimitris, change that to GNOME
[12:26] <dimitris_> Exteris there are also the available options:
[12:27] <dongdong> MenZa: how do i run it from termianl 2 as it seems i have to quit irssi to be able to control other processes in this terminal
[12:27] <NET||abuse> Yeh, that worked too.. well at least the font is still available in gimp, and the file is not under ~/.fonts/ anymore.. what about inkscape,,
[12:27] <dimitris_> Exteris Gnome or failsafe gnome?
[12:27] <NET||abuse> will try adding it to inkscape also
[12:27] <MenZa> dongdong: Try installing screen
[12:27] <Exteris> dimitris_ gnome
[12:27] <MenZa> dongdong: It lets you run several terminals in one
[12:27] <Exteris> MenZa, isn't screen installed by default?
[12:27] <issa_> Hello community. I've installed ubuntu 7.10 (i386) on AMD PC .. is that bad?
[12:27] <MenZa> Is it?
[12:27] <MenZa> !info screen
[12:27] <ubotu> screen (source: screen): a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[12:27] <MenZa> No, it isn't.
[12:27] <Exteris> issa_, no it isn't
[12:27] <dimitris_> Exteris ok if it crashes i 'll return ok?
[12:28] <Exteris> dimitris_, what do you mean?
[12:28] <dongdong> MenZa: hmmm but im using cli command wouldnt i need to go to gui to be able to use screem
[12:28] <dimitris_> Exteris do not forget me
[12:28] <MenZa> dongdong: No. screen /is/ a cli application.
[12:28] <MenZa> !screen | dongdong
[12:28] <ubotu> dongdong: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[12:28] <issa_> Ok .. I am having a problem with the VGA driver ! I have nVidia GeForce4 MX 440 .. and I am not able to get a better resolution than 800x600
[12:28] <PeterGriffin> screen is very nice
[12:28] <issa_> How can I fix this problem?
[12:28] <MenZa> issa_: Which driver do you have installed?
[12:29] <MenZa> nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy?
 from restricted drivers I can see NVIDIA accelerator is installed
[12:29] <MenZa> Ah-hah.
[12:29] <issa_> but not in use
[12:29] <MenZa> Then tick the “In use” field.
[12:30] <MenZa> You could also check System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics
[12:30] <Xxi> so should I assume there's no way to get the latest gnome release through apt?
[12:30] <Exteris> dimitris_, what do you mean
[12:30] <MenZa> Xxi: Only in Hardy.
[12:30] <Yancho> anyone has any idea how i can make use of a 15GB hdd space for my / filesystem please? especially for updating packages
[12:30] <dimitris> legend2440 nothing happened
[12:30] <MenZa> Yancho: What's the problem?
[12:30] <issa_> It's ticked, and status is Not in Use .. when I untick It's telling me: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist.
[12:30] <MenZa> issa_: OK. Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:30] <dimitris> exters nothing happened
[12:31] <dimitris> exteris nothing happened
[12:31] <MenZa> Then follow the steps necessary
[12:31] <issa_> Ok thanks
[12:31] <Yancho> MenZa my / filesystem is almost filled up - and i need to upgrade ubuntu since xserver-xorg needs a more updated ubuntu. i have 6.06
[12:31] <MenZa> np :)
[12:31] <Exteris> dimitris, you need to relogin first, kill your existing session with ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:31] <russo> hi guys, is there a log for apt-get? i messed up my sound removing the old fglrx modules to install the new ones
[12:31] <dongdong> MenZa: about screen could you tell me again as I had to go downstairs
[12:31] <MenZa> Yancho: What is your partition layout, currently?
[12:31] <MenZa> dongdong: What do you need me to tell you?
[12:32] <Yancho> MenZa what command u prefer so i show it to u? df -h is ok?
[12:32] <MenZa> russo: /var/log/aptitude I think
[12:32] <MenZa> Yancho: Sure, please pastebin that
[12:32] <MenZa> !pastebin | Yancho
[12:32] <ubotu> Yancho: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:32] <dongdong> MenZa: does screem work in termianl mode or do i have to go into gui?
[12:32] <MenZa> dongdong: It works in a terminal.
[12:32] <MenZa> The idea is you launch screen, then create virtual terminals inside that- see man screen
 I have been playing around with this command before, and each time I tried nothing actually happened. Now when I used it it seems that that missing file is back ..
[12:32] <dongdong> MenZa: so all i have to do is install it than run it straight forward right?
[12:33] <MenZa> issa_: Huh?
[12:33] <MenZa> dongdong: correct. Read the man page for more information.
[12:33] <dongdong> MenZa: ok
[12:33] <dimitris> exteris still the same
[12:33] <issa_> but in the file I can't see mode in the monitor section
[12:33] <dimitris> should i reboot for good know?
[12:33] <dimitris> exteris should i reboot for good know?
[12:34] <Yancho> MenZa : http://yancho.pastebin.com/d588a83af - there is also /dev/hda5 which i just formatted to ext3 .. not appearing there
[12:34] <MenZa> issa_: Don't edit the file manually for now
[12:34] <Exteris> dimitris, how does your desktop look now?
[12:34] <dimitris> exteris same
[12:34] <MenZa> Yancho: So, you don't have a seperate /home?
[12:34] <Exteris> but is it xubuntu?
[12:34] <Yancho> nope i guess MenZa
[12:34] <Exteris> dimitris, what do you get when you try to run thunar
[12:34] <dimitris> exteris yes its an xcfe thing
[12:35] <dimitris> exteris thunar?
[12:35] <MenZa> Yancho: You have several partitions on your main drive?
[12:35] <Exteris> dimitris, it's an xfce app
[12:35] <Yancho> yes MenZa
[12:35] <MenZa> Yancho: Then you can resize those partitions and expand your / partition
[12:35] <MenZa> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php <- see that
[12:35] <dongdong> MenZa: screem wont show in terminal 6, how cna i make it run in cli
[12:35] <dimitris> exteris should i type this in terminal?
[12:36] <MenZa> dongdong: just run 'screen'
[12:36] <Yancho> MenZa i have 15GB partition free
[12:36] <MenZa> dongdong: read the man page!
[12:36] <Yancho> MenZa is it safe?
 ok I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I am following the steps. Shall I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[12:36] <MenZa> Yancho: It should be safe.
[12:36] <MenZa> issa_: Whatever's the default.
[12:36] <issa_> No
[12:36] <madgod> hello
[12:36] <issa_> Default is no
[12:36] <MenZa> Then no :)
[12:36] <MenZa> Hi, madgod.
[12:36] <issa_> Shall I follow defaults?
[12:36] <madgod> soup
[12:36] <dimitris> exteris should i type this in terminal?
[12:37] <MenZa> issa_: Mostly; ensure you use the nvidia driver and then choose the screen resolutions you want available.
[12:37] <dimitris> exteris oh thunar fie manager
[12:37] <issa_> I am sure. In windows on the same computer I've checked it ..
[12:37] <dimitris> exteris it seems to me a good file manager
[12:37] <Yancho> MenZa doing it
[12:37] <madgod> anyone here using the beta yet?
[12:37] <dimitris> exteris it runs in wnow mode
[12:37] <MenZa> issa_: Yeah, but you're asked for the driver to use at one point, and you have to choose the one called "nvidia"
[12:38] <MenZa> madgod: Yep.
[12:38] <combat> madgod, sure
[12:38] <MenZa> !hardy | madgod
[12:38] <MenZa> :)
[12:38] <ubotu> madgod: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:38] <madgod> rifk
[12:38] <Exteris> dimitris, log out of this session
 I did .. now it's asking me for monitor characteristics .. default is simple, what do you think is better to choose?
[12:39] <Exteris> then try to login to a gnome session
[12:39] <MenZa> issa_: Simple, unless you know the vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor.
[12:39] <issa_> Ok
[12:39] <issa_> Done. Is there a way to start xserver without having to logout or reboot?
[12:40] <legend2440> Exteris:  dmitris he has auto login checked so he wont get chance to choose will he?
 Is there a way to start xserver without having to logout or reboot?
[12:40] <Keneo> issa_: you have to logout, but you don't need to reboot, just pres ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:40] <Yancho> MenZa : i am reading the faq and it doesnt talk about resizing an already filled up partition :) sorry im being too scared
[12:40] <issa_> OK :) thanks
[12:40] <MenZa> issa_: startx from a terminal.
[12:41] <MenZa> Yancho: I've had pretty good experiences with it
[12:41] <MenZa> Yancho: Including resizing a huge NTFS drive, creating an ext3 drive and various other pieces of maintenance at once
[12:41] <Yancho> MenZa hope mine will be the same :)
[12:41] <MenZa> Yes. :)
[12:41] <Yancho> if not it means im screwed? no other way i can fix it ?
[12:41] <MenZa> Delete some data.
[12:41] <MenZa> Other than that, I don't know what to suggest.
[12:42] <Yancho> no i mean if the resizing screws the partition
[12:42] <Nik0la0s> hello
[12:42] <Nik0la0s> is gOS the same as ubuntu?
 Nothing changed!
[12:42] <ocs_>  hi. is there an other utility than Curl for sending http commands?
[12:42] <issa_> And in the restricted drivers I can see the accelerator ticked but status Not in use
[12:42] <dongdong> MenZa: how do i run mpd mpc in terminal 4
[12:42] <MenZa> issa_: Hm, try running System → Administration → Screens & Graphics, issa_
 Resolution is still 800x600 :(
[12:43] <MenZa> dongdong: run mpd, then run mpc
[12:43] <MenZa> dongdong: If in doubt, read the man pages.
[12:43] <MenZa> issa_: Try running Screens & Graphics.
[12:43] <issa_> Ok
[12:43] <issa_> I did
[12:43] <Nik0la0s> is gOS the same as ubuntu?
[12:43] <issa_> Only two options .. highest is 800x600
[12:43] <MenZa> OK. Choose "Device". Which driver is selected?
[12:43] <MenZa> Nik0la0s: No.
 Where? In graphic card tab?
[12:44]  * ApOgEE- shutting down!!
[12:44] <Nik0la0s> MenZa, but it is ubntu based
[12:44] <spz-> I've installed ubuntu w/ Wubi. I've had no problems booting ubuntu for about a week then all of a sudden I get a error when booting that say it can't show the GUI or something. any ideas ?
[12:44] <issa_> It's Vesa!!!
[12:44] <MenZa> choose nvidia, issa_
[12:44] <Slart> Nik0la0s: isn't gOS the google OS?
[12:44] <MenZa> Nik0la0s: Correct.
[12:44] <MenZa> Slart: No.
[12:44] <Nik0la0s> yes or green os
[12:45] <Nik0la0s> and it is based on ubuntu
[12:45] <MenZa> Correct.
 When I select choosing by name, there is only nVidia .. there is also nv with a long name
[12:45] <issa_> What to choose? Or shall i choose the model?
[12:45] <Nik0la0s> what is the difference?
[12:45] <TheGhostRiDER> Hello.
[12:45] <MenZa> Nik0la0s: for one, it uses Enlightenment
[12:45] <ompaul> Nik0la0s, you need to ask the gos people
[12:46] <MenZa> issa_: by name - nvidia
[12:46] <issa_> Ok
[12:46] <issa_> Then?
[12:46] <TheGhostRiDER> I made a new user via adduser user, and that new user cannot run any programs whatsoever.
[12:46] <issa_> logout?
[12:46] <TheGhostRiDER> What is the cause?
[12:46] <dongdong> TheGhostRiDER: why would make a user that cant run any progs?
[12:46] <Nik0la0s> MenZa, yes but dekstop manager itsnt a diffrence i ve just tunred it to gnome
[12:47] <MenZa> Nik0la0s: Check with the gOS people.
[12:47] <ompaul> !offtopic | Nik0la0s
[12:47] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:47] <dongdong> TheGhostRiDER: check your permissions
[12:47] <spz-> I've installed ubuntu w/ Wubi. I've had no problems booting ubuntu for about a week then all of a sudden I get a error when booting that say it can't show the GUI or something. any ideas ?
[12:47] <TheGhostRiDER> dongdong: I'm doing this all through terminal, this is on a VPS, how should I proceed?
[12:47] <theunixgeek> I installed Ubuntu side-by-side with OS X but the Linux partition isn't recognized at boot, even when I hold the alt/option key. What should I do to make the computer recognize it?
[12:47] <Ace2016_> Anyone here use wicd to connect to a hidden network?
 Back again after logout .. nothing changed
[12:48] <MenZa> issa_: Check which driver is used in Screens & Graphics.
[12:48] <dongdong> TheGhostRiDER: I wouldnt know on a VPS soemone will have to help there
[12:48] <MenZa> Did you apply the settings?
[12:48] <Ace2016_> nvm, i'll stick with network manager
 And by the way, it's back to vesa!
[12:48] <issa_> Why wasn't it saved?
[12:48] <MenZa> Did you click "OK"?
[12:48] <issa_> Yes!
[12:48] <MenZa> Twice?
[12:49] <Nik0la0s> o one cant expect same stability with ubuntu or gOS as with debian?
[12:49] <issa_> Yes!
[12:49] <Nik0la0s> sorry i need to ask to knwo the difference
[12:49] <Nik0la0s> an dwhat to install;
[12:49] <TheGhostRiDER> Does anybody know how to change a user's permissions via the terminal?
[12:49] <issa_> And also performed test and a strange blur gray screen appeared!
[12:49] <MenZa> issa_: OK. Could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[12:49] <issa_> OK
[12:49] <MenZa> permissions in what sense, TheGhostRiDER?
[12:49] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa: To run programs, write files, etc.
[12:50] <HinHin> ah
[12:50] <leerling> i'm on a school computer sitout any su acces, is it possible for me to change the screen refresh rate, because it's all funny, already tried to degauss it
[12:50] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: So you want file permissions?
[12:50] <HinHin> well there a few ways to do that
[12:50] <MenZa> Negatory, leerling.
[12:50] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa: For the newuser I created, yes.
[12:50] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: Then you probably want to add said user to a group
[12:50] <TheGhostRiDER> ...I did.
[12:50] <MenZa> Aha. Well, then use chmod and chown?
[12:51] <leerling> mezna: ok, thanx
[12:51] <MenZa> (Sorry; I'm not really picking up your drift here.)
[12:51] <rhineheart_m> what's the difference between chmod and chown?
[12:51] <Xman> can anybody tell me, can we attach files to the mail which we are sending using telnet service??
[12:51] <MenZa> chown changes owner, chmod sets permissions, rhineheart_m
[12:51] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa: I'm going to be very noobie here... How do I use either of those tools.
 http://pastebin.com/m3d35f49c
[12:51] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: Sure. chown is used with the following syntax: chown <flags> <user>:<group> <target>
 Every time I close screens and graphics and open it again it's back to vesa !!!
[12:52] <MenZa> issa_: That's odd. Your xorg.conf says "nvidia"
[12:52] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa: Can you give a command example?
[12:52] <issa_> Maybe my PC is possessed!
[12:53] <issa_> what is vesa!
[12:53] <issa_> I didn't install it
[12:53] <ompaul> issa_, the standard base video card
[12:53] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: Say you want to change the owner of ~/foo to the user "bar" who is in the group "foobar". In addition, you want to do this for all subdirectories/files: chown -R bar:foobar ~/foo
[12:53] <MenZa> issa_: About as bulletproof a driver as they get.
[12:53] <ompaul> issa_, are you restarting X completely?
[12:53] <TheGhostRiDER> Ok.
[12:54] <issa_> How do you mean?
[12:54] <foxiness> how can i fix broken package "with out synaptic"?
[12:55] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: chmod is somewhat different. chmod <permissions> <target> - e.g. chmod 777 -R ~/blah will set the permission of ~/blah and all subdirectories/files to 777 (all read/write).
[12:55] <TheGhostRiDER> Ok.
[12:55] <swaj> 777 adds execute permissions, too
[12:55] <swaj> 666 is read/write
[12:55] <MenZa> swaj: true
[12:55] <MenZa> I never think of that. >_>
[12:55] <boebi> helloow
[12:56] <CJS3141> I'm sure this is a newbie question, but if I'm in the directory /usr/local/bin, why can't I do a "sudo iwconfig > ouputfile.txt"? It says permission denied.
[12:56] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa:
[12:56] <TheGhostRiDER> xdcc@kingnetcodingnetwork:~/iroffer1.4.b03$ ./iroffer
[12:56] <TheGhostRiDER> -bash: ./iroffer: Permission denied
[12:56] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: chmod +x :)
[12:56] <TheGhostRiDER> k
[12:56] <madgod> anyone happen to get the last.fm linux client work for them?
[12:57] <ompaul> madgod, it just works
[12:57] <MenZa> madgod: Download it from Medibuntu.
[12:57] <MenZa> !medibuntu | madgod
[12:57] <ubotu> madgod: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:57] <MenZa> Oh wait.
[12:57] <MenZa> It's open source.
 Guess what happened! It worked this time, and nvidia is shown, and from fonts it seems that accelerator works, but resolution is 640x480
[12:57] <issa_> !!!
[12:57] <boebi> I have a question... do all the partitions need a different mount point before i can install ubuntu,
[12:57] <MenZa> issa_: Then System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution.
[12:57] <boebi> ?
[12:57] <madgod> MenZa Thank you.
[12:58] <ompaul> boebi, no, but if you want to use them for the install they will need it
 In screen resolution the highest is 640x480
[12:58] <MenZa> issa_: then you want sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - when you come to the screen resolution bit, remember to tick all the resolutions you want!
[12:58] <swaj> boebi:  you can do a default ubuntu install with only 1 base parition and 1 swap if you want.  But the installer will help you set them up or even do it for you if you want to use the entire disk.
[12:59] <issa_> Ok .. thanks
[12:59] <e-r_c_e> damn, can anyone tell me what was last message 4 me?
[12:59] <boebi> because, im trying to intsall ubuntu, i set a ext3 primary partition and a linux swap. mount point of ext3 is '/'
[12:59] <e-r_c_e> i was at bloody school
[12:59] <TheGhostRiDER> MenZa: PM?
[12:59] <Novnia> how many people are in this channal?
[12:59] <MenZa> TheGhostRiDER: Please, keep it in channel. :)
[12:59] <TheGhostRiDER> Ok.
[12:59] <MenZa> 1239.
[12:59] <MenZa> :p
[12:59] <boebi> when i click 'forward', it says there are 2 file systems with the same mount point and not accept it
[12:59] <Novnia> wow
[12:59] <MenZa> boebi: What file systems have you setup?
[13:00] <boebi> i have a few ntfs partitions
[13:00] <boebi> an ext3 partition and a linux swap
[13:00] <MenZa> Ensure they're not all set to mount on the same mount point.
[13:00] <ompaul> !ntfs | boebi
[13:00] <ubotu> boebi: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[13:00] <MenZa> They all need unique mount points.
[13:00] <MenZa> ompaul: I think it's being done in the installer
[13:00] <e-r_c_e> damn, can anyone tell me what was last message 4 me?
[13:00] <MenZa> e-r_c_e: There was none.
[13:00] <e-r_c_e> how
[13:00] <marouane> menza
[13:00] <boebi> but im afraid, if i change mount point of my windows partition as example, wont it give any problems on the windows side?
[13:01] <e-r_c_e> at 7:35
[13:01] <e-r_c_e> there WAS somethink
[13:01] <MenZa> boebi: No, that's only in Ubuntu, don't worry.
[13:01] <marouane> menza talk to me
[13:01] <MenZa> marouane: Hello.
[13:01] <swaj> no boebi, the mount point only affects where linux mounts it,  it's not going to screw up your windows install
[13:01] <marouane> hello
[13:01] <marouane> how are you
[13:01] <MenZa> !offtopic | marouane
[13:01] <ubotu> marouane: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:01] <MenZa> :)
[13:01] <boebi> so i can just change mount point to something random, and it will word perfectly
[13:01] <marouane> mattj
[13:01] <marouane> talk to me mattj
[13:02] <Exteris> boebi, the mount point has to exist
[13:02] <swaj> boebi, for windows partitions I usually do something like /mnt/windows or something similar
[13:02] <boebi> alright, ill do something like that, thanks all
[13:02] <swaj> boebi, you can also not set a mount point at all and set up your windows partitions post-install
[13:02] <Moult> when i go to my places menu and select a directory it opens in thunar and not nautilus, any ideas why? and how do i change this?
[13:02] <MenZa> Moult: It would appear that Thunar is your default file manager.
[13:03] <boebi> btw, if i install ubuntu, a new bootloader with dual boot is automatically installed right?
[13:03] <Exteris> Moult, change it in preferred applications
[13:03] <russo> hey guys is there a place where i can see all the base sound packages... i'm having some really wierd sound problems after i installed the fglrx modules
[13:03] <Exteris> boebi, yes, but you can still edit it :P
[13:03] <MenZa> Correct, boebi :)
[13:03] <MenZa> issa_: Did you figure it out yet?
[13:03] <swaj> boebi, grub will be installed, and usually Ubuntu can find the Windows install and load it into the boottloader automagically.  But you can always reconfigure.
[13:03] <boebi> lol, all i want is to install ubuntu and be able to get into windows as well
[13:03] <Moult> Exteris I don't have an options for file browser there
[13:03] <HinHin> hmm... is there a way i can force a program to uses more resources? Wine
 umm .. I did that again, I choose up to 1280 and it's not working
[13:03] <boebi> alright, thanks a lot to you all!!
[13:03] <MenZa> boebi: It'll automatically set that up, don't worry.
[13:04] <MenZa> issa_: You have to restart X.
[13:04] <issa_> still can't see higher resolution options!
[13:04] <Moult> MenZa however on my desktop when i double click a directory there, it opens in nautilus
[13:04] <issa_> I did!
[13:04] <issa_> I logged out
[13:04] <MenZa> Did you select the resolutions, and save them?
[13:04] <issa_> You mean from that command?
[13:04] <HinHin> Wine for some games... it seems to advantage of the most of the available resources, therefore decreased proformance
[13:04] <MenZa> issa_: Correct.
[13:04] <issa_> I ticked the ones I need and hit ok
[13:04] <issa_> isn't that the way?
[13:04] <MenZa> Could you re-paste your xorg.conf?
[13:05] <HinHin> is there a way i can increase the resource pirority of wine?
[13:05] <issa_> Ok
[13:05] <Dr_Link> Alright, VMware Windows 98 virtualization won't work for me. Neither will WINE. If I want to run the Windows 95/98 game Sim City 3000, how am I going to do it under my Ubuntu 7.10 computer? It won't work for WINE or VMware, once again. What are my other options?
[13:05] <e-r_c_e> Excuse me: is ntp.conf config for time and date?
[13:05] <MenZa> Dr_Link: CrossOver office, although I doubt that'll work if Wine doesn't. Then there's Cedega. Both are commercial.
[13:05] <russo> is there a way to get ubuntu to reinstall all the base packages?
[13:05] <_blitz_> my hard disk got an error.its partition table is damaged.what do i do?no software can list my partitions and also i cant boot off any partition
[13:05] <MenZa> e-r_c_e: It's for your ntpd.
[13:05] <HinHin> Dr_Link, u;n pretty sure it works
[13:06] <Dr_Link> Under WINE?
[13:06] <HinHin> Dr_Link, yup
[13:06] <issa_> http://pastebin.com/m7ff45df1
[13:06] <Moult> Any ideas anybody why my places-> directory opens in thunar?
[13:06] <e-r_c_e> MenZa, w-t-* is ntp and ntpd
[13:06] <swaj> Dr_Link, it's unlikely you'll get it to work under a virtual machine because they don't support 3d acceleration.  You might try Cedega (www.transgaming.com).  It's not free, but it's a modified WINE that runs many, many games.
 http://pastebin.com/m7ff45df1 .. I can see that MOde has the needed resolution
[13:06] <Dr_Link> This is SC3000 Unlimited, which was a small successor to the first SC3000, HinHin.
[13:06] <MenZa> !ntp | e-r_c_e
[13:06] <ubotu> e-r_c_e: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[13:06] <legend2440> Moult: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/25981
[13:06] <HinHin> I've got alot of games working by simply double clicking one the executable with recent versions of wine
[13:06] <HinHin> Dr_Link, try it
[13:06] <ryo> hiii alll
[13:06] <e-r_c_e> MenZa, THX :D
[13:07] <HinHin> heya ryanakca
[13:07] <HinHin> er... ryo
[13:07] <HinHin> :P
[13:07] <MenZa> issa_: Yes, it would appear so.
[13:07] <Novnia> whats a good popular irc chat that just has cool/weird conversations. like something from bash.org
[13:07] <almancora> I have a question for you guys, I'm using ubuntu for a while, no problems with sound till today. the sounds works perfectly but as I plug in my headphone the sound stops, And the headphone isn't the problem, Ubuntu just stops giving sound! Where do I fix this?
[13:07] <issa_> So what to do!! :/
[13:07] <HinHin> Is there a way i can increase the resource priority of application?
[13:07] <MenZa> issa_: But I can also see that your driver is set to `nv', not `nvidia'
[13:07] <issa_> I chose nvidia!
[13:07] <stefg> almancora: do you have intel hd sound ?
[13:07] <wo0f_> how do i enable the root account?
[13:07] <MenZa> Edit your xorg.conf manually, then.
[13:08] <MenZa> !root | wo0f_
[13:08] <delfick> hello, is it normal for there to be nothing in /proc/bus/usb ?
[13:08] <ubotu> wo0f_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:08] <HinHin> eww... intel HD sound
[13:08] <e-r_c_e> !aboutbot
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aboutbot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <issa_> Believe me! I made sure it's nvidia!!!
[13:08] <MenZa> issa_: Yes. But that's not what's in your xorg.conf.
[13:08] <ompaul> e-r_c_e, message the bot - if you want to talk with it
[13:08] <e-r_c_e> !aboutubotu
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aboutubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <e-r_c_e> !about ubotu
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <ompaul> !bot | ubotu
[13:08] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:08] <e-r_c_e> :\
[13:08] <MenZa> !msgthebot > e-r_c_e
[13:08] <wo0f_> MenZa, but i want to enable root
[13:08] <stefg> !root
[13:08] <wo0f_> MenZa, not use sudo
[13:08] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:08] <MenZa> wo0f_: Read the page. There should be instructions for it.
[13:09] <ompaul> !supportroot | wo0f_  (this channel does not support what you are looking for)
[13:09] <ubotu> wo0f_  (this channel does not support what you are looking for): We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[13:09] <alby241992> ciao a tutti
[13:09] <wo0f_> lol
[13:09] <ompaul> !it | alby241992
[13:09] <ubotu> alby241992: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:09] <wo0f_> im sure ubuntu users arnt all stupid
 Why I told I think my computer is possessed! it's because I am choosing now in Screens and Graphics NVIDIA, clicking OK twice ... I open it again to find it nv!!!
[13:10] <alby241992> come faccio ad andare in #ubuntu-it??
[13:10] <MenZa> issa_: Then edit the file manually. gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:10] <issa_> only Once after 10 trials of selecting it worked. Now it's back selecting smth else
[13:10] <MenZa> issa_: Under device, you can see "Driver". Set that to "nvidia"
[13:10] <almancora> stefg: intel hd sound?
[13:10] <issa_> Ok
[13:10] <ompaul> wo0f_, we don't support it - read that page it will advise you please drop the subject and ehh it is the way you do it on ubuntu if you want our support to do stuff
[13:10] <almancora> my processor is intel ?
[13:11] <stefg> wo0f_: that's not about stupidity, but about a design decision (a smart one). You are having more fun when not working against that, but to go with the flow
[13:11] <alby241992> ubotu
[13:11] <alby241992> rispondi
[13:11] <ompaul> alby241992,  >>>>                       /join #ubuntu-it
[13:11] <MenZa> !it | alby241992
[13:11] <ubotu> alby241992: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:11] <issa_> Only that?
[13:11] <alby241992> come faccio ad andarci????
[13:11] <MenZa> That's what there should be to it, issa_.
[13:11] <MenZa> then restart X.
[13:11] <MenZa> (Save the file)
[13:12] <issa_> Ok
[13:12] <stefg> !intelhda | almancora
[13:12] <ubotu> almancora: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:13] <MenZa> stefg: I found adding the following to /etc/modules work fine: snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[13:13] <stefg> almancora: run 'aplay -l' in a terminal and see what comes up
[13:13] <MenZa> stefg: I have an Intel HDA chip in my laptop.
[13:13] <crashanddie> say, how would I go about to get xerces-c 2.8 on ubuntu?
[13:13] <Znet> anyone help me with running fsck
[13:13] <srikar> any good programming guide for ubuntu
[13:13] <srikar> how to run c++,java in ubuntu???
[13:13] <almancora> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[13:13] <almancora> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC260 Analog [ALC260 Analog]
[13:13] <almancora>   Subdevices: 0/1
[13:13] <almancora>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:13] <almancora> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC260 Digital [ALC260 Digital]
[13:13] <almancora>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:13] <FloodBot2> almancora: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <almancora>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:13] <MenZa> !paste | almancora
[13:13] <ubotu> almancora: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:14] <MenZa> Sheesh.
 I restarted X, fonts changed but resolution is still as it is
[13:14] <issa_> no change in the resolution options!
[13:14] <Znet> im running the live cd, and want to check that nothing is mounted before i run fsck.....nothing is saying mounted hda etc so can i take it nothing is mounted on the hard drive
[13:14] <MenZa> issa_: That's very odd.
[13:14] <oni> hello all
[13:14] <MenZa> Znet: try df -h
[13:14] <issa_> in XOrg Modes are set right
[13:14] <stefg> almancora: so i guessed right.... intel hda is sometimes tricky to get going. your headphones aren't working because of an alsa bug
[13:14] <wo0f_> is there a chan just for ubuntu server?
[13:14] <Znet> menzaL just done that
[13:14] <MenZa> !server | wo0f_
[13:14] <ubotu> wo0f_: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[13:14] <almancora> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60405/
[13:15] <Dr_Link> Alright, where is the wine-c "drive"?
[13:15] <ompaul> wo0f_, they use sudo in #ubuntu-server
[13:15] <Kopfgeldjaeger> aloha
[13:15] <stefg> wo0f_: #ubuntu-server :-9
[13:15] <Dr_Link> It's a newer version ...
[13:15] <MenZa> Dr_Link: ~/.wine/drive_c
[13:15] <wo0f_> cheers guys
[13:15] <almancora> stefg: but It worked till today :s
[13:15] <oni> i need some help with 6.06
 :( What can I do!
[13:15] <ompaul> !ask | oni
[13:15] <ubotu> oni: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:15] <Znet> menza: they are mounted on /lib or /var/ or /dev
[13:15] <MenZa> issa_: I really have no clue if none of those steps work.
[13:15] <MenZa> issa_: Sorry. :(
[13:16] <stefg> almancora: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353035
[13:16] <issa_> Thanks any way!
[13:16] <MenZa> issa_: np; good luck with it
[13:16] <Znet> menza: but how do i tell what the hard drive name is so that i an run a fsck
[13:16] <MenZa> Znet: You give the device name, e.g. /dev/hda
[13:17] <Znet> menza: but i dont know what it is
[13:17] <oni> how can i make my External Hard Drive write cuz write data to it cuz right now it is read only
[13:17] <MenZa> Znet: Well, that's a bit of a problem.
[13:17] <MenZa> !fstab | oni
[13:17] <ubotu> oni: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[13:17] <Znet> menza: is there a command that lists them
[13:17] <henkdetank> does anybody know where the slimserver plugins directory can be found? i'd like to install a plugin but cant find the folder...
[13:17] <almancora> stefg: It works, gnome-volume-control did it :) It was a stupid channel set to zero, clumsy
[13:17] <stefg> hehehe
[13:17] <MenZa> Znet: sudo fdisk -l, but that won't tell you their normal mount points.
[13:18] <Dr_Link> HinHin: The launcher.exe file on the SC3 CD doesn't seem to want to run under WINE... but ... it installed ... and I can't find the executable to start it with. Not in the Applications menu. Now in the wine-c/Program Files directory.
[13:18] <Dr_Link> eh
[13:18] <Dr_Link> *NOT in the wine-c/Program Files directory.
[13:18] <Znet> whast the default root password for ubuntu
[13:18] <Dr_Link> there is no root password by default.
[13:18] <stefg> !root
[13:19] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:19] <Dr_Link> if there is, it'll probably be "root"
[13:19] <Dr_Link> Znet: sudo su.
[13:19] <Znet> how do i set one
[13:19] <MenZa> There is no root password.
[13:19] <MenZa> !root | Znet
[13:19] <ubotu> Znet: please see above
[13:19] <MenZa> Znet: Read the link.
[13:20] <Dr_Link> ...
[13:20] <Znet> thanks guys, got the info i need. BIG THANKS... has to be the best room ive been in to date
[13:20] <Dr_Link> Are there ANY OTHER WAYS to play this Windows game? WINE hates me. :(
 :) I rebooted and it's working like a charm
[13:22] <MenZa> issa_: sweet. :)
[13:22] <issa_> Thanks!
[13:22] <MenZa> No problem.
[13:22] <MenZa> Thank the devs for incorporating the restricted driver manager. It was a pain before. >_>
[13:24] <OwNsYa> Anyone know if pro tools can run on Linux, (Ubuntu ofcourse) ;]
[13:24] <ompaul> !cedega | Dr_Link (not normally supported here - it is payware)
[13:24] <ubotu> Dr_Link (not normally supported here - it is payware): cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[13:24] <HinHin> Dr_Link, try opening the exe directly
[13:24] <HinHin> in the programs file folder
[13:25] <Riomerc> Hello, Ubuntu support channel!
[13:25] <crashanddie> How would I get xerces 2.8 on my Ubuntu box (Gutsy), only the 2.7 package is available from apt, is there a way to get those packages only, and not put the whole system in unstable ?
[13:26] <Riomerc> Just wanted to ask a quickie question: I was searching around some forums about a free version of cedega and the like, and camo upon this interesting advice
[13:26] <Riomerc> Get a copy of the local Windows XP system32 folder. Save onto you HD. Replace wine wfiles with real ones. Install games. Presto! Instant gaming....I've gotten games Cedega can't run to run using this meathod.
[13:26] <Riomerc> I was wondering if anyone could varify the success of somthing like that (Note: I legally own XP)
[13:26] <oni> when i try to save the fstab file it tells me i dont have the permissions
[13:27] <crashanddie> Riomerc, I doubt having config files and a few .dlls is going to change a whole lot to the performance of cedega
[13:27] <bazhang> Riomerc: link?
[13:27] <crashanddie> Riomerc, though, it's worth the try I guess
[13:27] <Riomerc> Heh, I believe he was talking about WINE
[13:27] <Riomerc> Bazhang, gimme a sec
[13:28] <oni> !Partitions
[13:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[13:29] <Riomerc> Sorry for the wait: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28882&page=6
[13:29] <Sniper> hey anyone here
[13:29] <bazhang> Riomerc: thanks will take a look
[13:30] <Riomerc> :)
[13:30] <oni> !GParted
[13:30] <amr-eye> JESUS IS THE LORD <-----
[13:30] <amr-eye> ACCEPT THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST THE SAVIOUR <------
[13:30] <amr-eye> LONG LIVE THE MESSIAH <-----
[13:30] <amr-eye> JESUS IS THE LORD <-----
[13:30] <amr-eye> JESUS LOVES YOU <-----
[13:30] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[13:30] <FloodBot2> amr-eye: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <amr-eye> HAVE JESUS IN YOUR LIFE AND BE SPARED FROM EVIL <-----
[13:30] <amr-eye> JESUS IS THE LORD <-----
[13:30] <tof> Hi, how to change the keyboard type in a text console?
[13:30] <Riomerc> The reason I wanted to ask (Honestly, I would have done it already) is because, don't flame pl0x, is because I'm still on XP and I haven't got ubuntu installed on this comp
[13:30] <Dr_Link> HinHin: I found the lnk shortcut to the executable ... but it crashes on startup asking me to insert the correct CD ... when it's in the CD drive...
[13:30] <Dr_Link> WTF?
[13:31] <theunixgeek> I installed Ubuntu on a partition with OS X on another, but the computer won't recognize the Ubuntu partition to boot from it. How do I fix this?
[13:32] <spz-> I've installed ubuntu w/ Wubi. I've had no problems booting ubuntu for about a week then all of a sudden I get a error when booting that say it can't show the GUI or something. any ideas ?
[13:33] <jamiepr> hi all
[13:34] <Sniper> hi yall
[13:34] <Sniper> wats up
[13:34] <Riomerc> Not too much
[13:34] <jamiepr> good tar how are you
[13:34] <Riomerc> The sky is apparently still hanging around
[13:34] <Sniper> hey guys, do you guys know naythin bout icecast
[13:35] <jamiepr> not much just ask away and we will see
[13:35] <olimpico> How can I configure gnuchess on knights?
[13:35] <camilla> hello. I would like .iso files to open with "wxvlc dvd://<filename_of_file_I_clicked_on>". How can I do this?
[13:35] <olimpico> can someone tell me how to find the path to an executable?
[13:35] <Sniper> basiclacly ih ave icecast runnin on my windows system and i need it to not show up as icecast when its relaying streams
[13:36] <Sniper> i always get banned from sites saying Relaying with ICECAST trunk,
[13:36] <ompaul> olimpico, depends if it a usual one just type which BinaryName
[13:36] <Sniper> how can i make that program name not show to them
[13:36] <oni> whats is a good dvd burning program?
[13:36] <Sniper> maybe hso wthem Winamp instead of that
[13:37] <jamiepr> can you not swap icecast for another program
[13:37] <hexion> hi
[13:37] <legend2440> camilla: iso files are archives. you can burn them to a dvd or cd but you can't run them in vlc
[13:37] <oni> is k3d good?
[13:37] <erle-> where does dpkg store the info about installed packages?
[13:37] <camilla> legend2440, Yes I can
[13:37] <Riomerc> I'm sure a longish google search will come up with a way to hex an exe to show up as somthing else, Sniper
[13:38] <hexion> anyone here use compiz with WALL, EXPO, and viewport switcher????
[13:38] <thesurvivorman> no you can't... it might try to open them, but it can't run them
[13:38] <tdoggette> ubuntu is reacting as though i am continuously pressing the up button, and the shift and capslock keys do not work. i assume i hit a key combination of some kind, because this happened suddenly.
[13:38] <bazhang> oni k3b is fine as are gnomebaker brasero and others; depends if you just want to burn data, iso or make dvd movies though
[13:38] <ompaul> oni k3d does not exist - you might be talking about k3b it is as good or bad as gnomebaker whichis not too bad at all
[13:38] <sharperguy> anyone got any idea why when I click show details on a torrent in azureus, it segfaults?
[13:39] <legend2440> camilla: ok then right click iso file and choose properties the open with and point it toward vlc
[13:39] <oni> that is right
[13:39] <bazhang> sharperguy: likely a memory problem with azureus; that is a very buggy program
[13:39] <oni> just iso
[13:39] <bazhang> oni then right click open with cd/dvd creator
[13:39] <camilla> legend2440, then I can only do this: "wxvlc dvd:// <filename_of_file_I_clicked_on>". It's a space between // and the filename. Not good
[13:40] <captainm> sharperguy: try transmission, deluge or ktorrent
[13:40] <Riomerc> Well, since the place has seemed to become more active than when I joined, I'll ask again
[13:40] <The_Booie> how do i configure the icons that show up on the gnome desktop? i thought it was gnome-conf but i'm mistaken. btw running ubuntu 7.10
[13:40] <oni> i dont have that on my box
[13:40] <Riomerc> Just wanted to ask a quickie question: I was searching around some forums about a free version of cedega and the like, and camo upon this interesting advice
[13:40] <bazhang> Riomerc: that link you gave me seems very doubtful
[13:41] <Riomerc> :P
[13:41] <camilla> legend2440, I mean, I can specify that it should open with "wxvlc dvd://" but it will but a space after //.
[13:41] <Riomerc> Get a copy of the local Windows XP system32 folder. Save onto you HD. Replace wine wfiles with real ones. Install games. Presto! Instant gaming....I've gotten games Cedega can't run to run using this meathod.
[13:41] <camilla> legend2440, but = put
[13:41] <Riomerc> Get a copy of the local Windows XP system32 folder. Save onto you HD. Replace wine wfiles with real ones. Install games. Presto! Instant gaming....I've gotten games Cedega can't run to run using this meathod.
[13:41] <bazhang> Riomerc: that is a three year old version of cedega
[13:41] <r_cane> sharperguy:wut he said...azureus is finicky
[13:41] <Riomerc> Lol
[13:41] <tdoggette> this is seriously not a joke. i can't save things in some programs that i have open, so i can't reboot. on another note, my ctrl key isn't working either.
[13:42] <Riomerc> Bazhang, even though that topic is related to cedega, I believe he was talking about WINE instead
[13:42] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[13:42] <camilla> Where does nautilus store file association?
[13:42] <bazhang> Riomerc: then you did not read carefully; eventually it turns to how good wine is, but the original point of that thread is how he could get cedega for free
[13:42] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-dev
[13:43] <jamiepr> anyone know much about ethical hacking
[13:43] <Riomerc> I've read the entire thread, bazhang
[13:43] <Riomerc> Rather carefully, infact
[13:43] <DRebellion> jamiepr, try asking a question
[13:43] <bazhang> Riomerc: there is a reason that thread is *closed*
[13:43] <Riomerc> Heh, I guess so
[13:44] <Riomerc> Nevertheless, I would like to pose my question in the context of wine
[13:44] <hullap> HELP. i downloaded second life once from www.getdeb.com and due to a power cut my pc got shut.
[13:44] <hullap> now if i use synaptic of apt i get error E: "The package secondlife-install needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." and i cant do anything
[13:44] <hexion> using wall and expo, if I select expo_button in viewport switcher it doesn't work well. Instead of launching expo it "grabs it" so when I unhold the button it releases the expo effect. Any help???? :(
[13:44] <bazhang> Riomerc: best head to #winehq or check the appdb for the specific game
[13:44] <amr-eye> JESUS IS THE LORD
[13:44] <amr-eye> ACCEPT THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST THE SAVIOUR
[13:44] <amr-eye> LONG LIVE THE MESSIAH
[13:44] <amr-eye> JESUS IS THE LORD
[13:44] <amr-eye> JESUS LOVES YOU
[13:44] <amr-eye> HAVE JESUS IN YOUR LIFE AND BE SPARED FROM EVIL
[13:44] <FloodBot2> amr-eye: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <amr-eye> JESUS
[13:45] <Riomerc> Very well, I suppose I'll ask aroumd there
[13:45] <jamiepr> i want a good place to start and secure my win xp laptop and ubuntu desktop
[13:45] <camilla> hello. I would like Nautilus to open .iso files with "wxvlc dvd://<filename_of_file_I_clicked_on>". Right clicking on a iso file, properties, open with and I can add "wxvlc dvd://". Problem is that Nautilus is putting a space between the // and the filename. Please advice
[13:45] <bazhang> !ops | amr-eye
[13:45] <ubotu> amr-eye: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[13:45] <DRebellion> !ops | amr-eye
[13:45] <The_Booie> the only god i know of goes by the name of tux
[13:45] <super-6-1_ubuntu> does anyone know how to add a sever for xchat?
[13:45] <Riomerc> The help is much appreciated.
[13:46] <DRebellion> super-6-1_ubuntu, xchat -> network list -> add/edit
[13:46] <super-6-1_ubuntu> thanks
[13:46] <bazhang> Riomerc: the wine guys really know their stuff; they can definitely give a better answer
[13:46] <macpo3> super6-1 have you tried searching for xchat in synaptic to see if there's a server app there?
[13:46] <The_Booie> how do i add/remove icons from gnomes desktop? i forget the command
[13:46] <amikrop> In a Feisty installation how could I use Hardy's repos for a while, only for installing a single package, and then change back to the Feisty's repos?
[13:46] <zepolen> new pc - graphic card: 8800GTS - livecd is in, i choose 'start or install' after a bit it hangs
[13:46] <DRebellion> amikrop, very bad idea
[13:47] <zepolen> does ubuntu not support the 8800gts?
[13:47] <bazhang> amikrop: you dont if you want a system that is not broken completely
[13:47] <tdoggette> if nobody know how to fix my keyboard problems, could someone say a plus sign for me, as i cannot join the kardy channel without functional shift keys or access to an applications other than those i have open
[13:47] <thesurvivorman> +
[13:47] <bazhang> tdoggette: + + +
[13:47] <amikrop> bazhang: How could a single package destroy a whole system?
[13:47] <super-6-1_ubuntu> DRebellion, its not there. i there another way?
[13:47] <danielvieirads> ubuntu piada
[13:47] <rhineheart_m> nice move :)
[13:47] <bazhang> amikrop: down that road lies no support
[13:48] <jamiepr> have you got any good tips to start securing a win and ubuntu network
[13:48] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey guys what is the best way to upgrade from alpha to beta
[13:48] <jamiepr> wireless
[13:48] <vbabiy-laptop> with out doing a reinstall
[13:48] <DRebellion> super-6-1_ubuntu, what do you mean by "its not there"?
[13:48] <amikrop> bazhang: I just want to install a game that is in Hardy's repos and then change back to Feisty's.
[13:48] <bazhang> hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+1 vbabiy-laptop
[13:48] <super-6-1_ubuntu> DRebellion, i cant find it in the menus
[13:48] <vbabiy-laptop> thanks bazhang
[13:48] <[Ronin]> jamiepr: you want a secure wireless network with ubuntu and windows?
[13:48] <oni> !samba
[13:48] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[13:49] <jamiepr> yes ronin any ideas where to start
[13:49] <super-6-1_ubuntu> DRebellion, whats the menu?
[13:49] <bazhang> amikrop: you can do what you wish do not expect to advise you how to break your system
[13:49] <DRebellion> jamiepr, use wpa with a non-dictionary password
[13:49] <DRebellion> xchat -> network list
[13:49] <amikrop> bazhang: How can I do that?
[13:49] <[Ronin]> jamiepr: well, praying maybe? =)
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> lol, non dictionary
[13:50] <bazhang> amikrop: on your own
[13:50] <chdst> amikrop: A great way to break your system is by pulling packages from newer repositories into older ones.
[13:50] <jamiepr> ive been using apg for my passwords
[13:50] <Jason_Smith> cs info #ubuntu-bots
[13:50] <mewshi> RAR
[13:50] <jamiepr> i dont have that much faith lol
[13:50] <amikrop> bazhang: Won't you tell me how?
[13:50] <bazhang> amikrop: nay
[13:50] <amikrop> bazhang: Excuse me?
[13:51] <bazhang> amikrop: No.
[13:51] <chdst> amikrop: This channel exists to help people fix their ubuntu installs when they're broken, not to break them when they work.
[13:51] <amikrop> ok
[13:51] <jamiepr> also im running wine to play vcpoker but i cant close a window without the program dying
[13:51] <amikrop> chdst: ok :P
[13:51] <[Ronin]> chdst: hmm, the other way around sounds much more fun though
[13:52] <gp> hi guys
[13:52]  * chdst proposes #ubuntu-breakingstuff
[13:52] <arvind> bazhang,tell me the official repos for HH
[13:52] <bazhang> jamiepr: which window?
[13:52] <linux__alien> i want to know how do i start this
[13:52] <linux__alien> python-glade2
[13:52] <linux__alien> i want to design a GUI using glade 2 how do i start it . i ve wxglade installed
[13:52] <bazhang> arvind: meet me in #ubuntu+1 okay?
[13:52] <linux__alien> is that the one ?
[13:52] <jamiepr> any vcpoker window if i change tables
[13:53] <jamiepr> the lot just dies
[13:53] <linux__alien> can someone help me with this ?
[13:53] <linux__alien> i just wanna know is wxglade same as python-glade2 and i ve also installed glade3 so which one should i start
[13:53] <gp> we trying ubuntu for a pilot but MICROPHONE doesnot work
[13:54] <gp> in all our systems
[13:54] <gp> one laptop and two desktops microphone dooesnot work
[13:54] <gp> on sony viao fsz11s and two other desktops with asus and msi mo
[13:54] <gp> guys in my office has to boot to windows to make microphone work
[13:55] <gp> i can hear the output /but microphone is not working
[13:55] <gp> we have intel soud chipset
[13:56] <balle> how do i watch videos on youtube?
[13:56] <gp> hda intel
[13:56] <gp> balle: Install flash
[13:56] <jamiepr> balle which plug in did you select
[13:56] <gp> pl tell me how to make microphone in ubuntu
[13:56] <balle> gp: yea......... how do i do that again?
[13:56] <balle> i got no plugin
[13:57] <jamiepr> flash plugin adobe or
[13:57] <DRebellion> balle, install the package  flashplugin-nonfree
[13:57] <gp> try package mamgaer
[13:57] <gp> pl tell me how to make microphone in ubuntu
[13:57] <pi-meson> Attempts to write to any file in /home give "No space left on device" even though df shows 900 GB free on the drive... has anyone seen this behavior before?
[13:57] <gp> if it doest work than my pitol will fail
[13:57] <jamiepr> you need the adobe plugin
[13:58] <balle> flash is not in synaptoc
[13:58] <gp> my boss will revert all machines back to m$
[13:58] <gp> pl tell me how to make microphone in ubuntu
[13:58] <danand> !hdaintel | gp
[13:58] <ubotu> gp: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:58] <jimqode> pi-meson, are you sure /home is not on a separate partition?
[13:58] <jamiepr> what browser are you using balle
[13:58] <iNeo> gp: Why
[13:58] <balle> i got both opera and firefox..
[13:58] <balle> on gutsy gibbon
[13:58] <DRebellion> !info flashplugin-nonfree | balle
[13:58] <ubotu> balle: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.2 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[13:59] <pi-meson> jimqode: I mean, it's on it's own partition, sure, "/dev/md0              932G   73G  850G   8% /home"
[13:59] <DRebellion> balle, there's your package
[13:59] <balle> thx
[13:59] <hyw> can anyone help me with this, it says http://ketsugi.com/panegyrist/howto-intellimouse-explorer-with-ubuntu-dapper/       it says (Replace event3 with the appropriate value taken from the earlier /proc/cat/ output.) not sure exactly what to replace
[14:00] <pi-meson> jimqode: but df says that partition has free space
[14:00] <balle> but how or where do i enable it?
[14:00] <jamiepr> just install it it will run when your browser runs
[14:00] <DRebellion> balle, just install it and it will work!
[14:00] <ukkopekka> Is there a way to able IRQ7 again? I know that serial or parallel ports usually cause IRQ7 problems and I have disabled my serial and parallel ports, but this just decreases the problems frequency. I can read from syslog "Disabling IRQ 7" so I thought that bringing IRQ7 up again would help.
[14:01] <pi-meson> I'm out of inodes? wtf?
[14:01] <jimqode> pi-meson, is it mounted properly? What does `mount` say?
[14:01] <balle> DRebellion from where? the terminal or what?
[14:01] <Shubbar> sound is working, but not in games, why?
[14:01] <pi-meson> well, so df -i says I'm out of inodes. I didn't even know I could run out of inodes.
[14:02] <DRebellion> balle, applications -> accessories -> terminal. Then, enter the command  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:02] <bongbong> help
[14:02] <balle> DRebellion: thank you!
[14:02] <iNeo> pi-meson: many smal files
[14:02] <ompaul> pi-meson, ahh that is interesting do you have lots of tiny files
[14:03] <jimqode> pi-meson, you can if you have lots of tiny files
[14:03] <iNeo> pi-meson: tune2fs can solve you problem
[14:03] <pi-meson> I do have many small files, wow, I've never seen this
[14:03] <pi-meson> can I run tune2fs on a mounted drive?
[14:03] <iNeo> pi-meson: yes you can
[14:03] <jimqode> pi-meson, I don't think so but it won't hurt to try
[14:04] <hspaans> iNeo: since when can you create new inodes on a running fs? except on ZFS
[14:04] <bongbong> how do i add a new channel tab on irssi?
[14:04] <iNeo> pi-meson: use tune2fs to view the settings of your file system
[14:05] <Sludge321> I was thinking of using XFS when hardy is released - are there any particular down-sides to this over ext3?
[14:05] <hspaans> iNeo: another option may be growing the filesystem
[14:05] <bongbong> anyone knows how to use irssi that can help me use it?
[14:06] <balle> DRebellion: it says the package is somewhere else
[14:06] <Slart> bongbong: I've just started using it.. what do you want to know?
[14:06] <iNeo> hspaans: I changed my reserved-block-per on a mounted system
[14:07] <Slart> bongbong: I think you'll get a new "tab" when you join a channel
[14:07] <jessica> i carnt open my update manager i get an error
[14:07] <Slart> jessica: what error?
[14:07] <bongbong> Slart: yeha thats what i thought but than when i use alt+number it dont work to move to the previous tab
[14:07] <jessica> root@ubuntu-laptop:~# update-manager
[14:07] <jessica> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[14:07] <jessica> Xlib: No protocol specified
[14:07] <jessica> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:72: GtkWarning: could not open display
[14:07] <jessica>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[14:07] <FloodBot2> jessica: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <hspaans> Sludge321: yes don't use it, it can lose data between writing data and the final commit. its a flaw in the design behind xfs
[14:08] <edgy> Hi, how can I connect to a wireless router with no WEP or WAP encryption? there is no none option?
[14:08] <Slart> bongbong: hmm.. odd..
[14:08] <bongbong> !pastebin | jessica
[14:08] <ubotu> jessica: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:08] <jessica> its quite a big error
[14:08] <jessica> i tryed to past it and it flooded the thing
[14:08] <IndyGunFreak> thats why there's a pastebin
[14:08] <hspaans> iNeo: thats something else the really making sure you write more small files
[14:08] <Slart> jessica: use a pastebin if you have to share more than one line of text.. it makes the channel less cluttered for others to read
[14:08] <IndyGunFreak> jessica: use pastein
[14:09] <bongbong> Slart: will try again by joining ubuntu-offtopic lets see if it works but i doubt it
[14:09] <pi-meson> okay, i've got the output of tune2fs -l , what am I looking for?
[14:09] <jessica> what is a pastein sorry i dont use irc much
[14:09] <Slart> !pastebin | jessica
[14:09] <ubotu> jessica: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:09] <iNeo> hspaans: Just showing that this was done on a mounted fs, and yes this is something else
[14:09] <Slart> jessica: paste your error message there and give us the url
[14:09]  * IndyGunFreak wonders why there is a channel topic.
[14:09] <Sludge321> hspaans: I thought that XFS was supposed to be superior? Surely if that is such a big issue, no-one would use it? Could you elaborate on this flaw in XFS?
[14:09] <jessica> i used the pastin thing
[14:10] <waylandbill> I'm a programmer that would like to help contribute to the development of ubuntu. Where can I find info on getting started?
[14:10] <jessica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60409/
[14:10] <r-c> is it possible to have 2 IP's on one NIC?
[14:10] <Slart> jessica: thanks.. taking a look
[14:10] <Slart> r-c: I think so.. I don't know how but I think it's possible
[14:11] <Slart> jessica: ouch.. that looks kind of bad..
[14:11] <jessica> i dont understand it
[14:11] <waylandbill> r-c: yes. I believe ifconfig's man page shows how.
[14:12] <jessica> im trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.4 using update-manager -d in terminal
[14:12] <danand> jessica - don't run as root - use gksudo update... etc
[14:12] <acke_> hey guys, i would want to install ubuntu on my ps3. i have the iso. but no cds.. can i mount an image in kboot?
[14:12] <danand> jessica - see if that helps
[14:12] <jessica> ok thanks ill try it now
[14:12] <fiXXXerMet> Submitted a bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204020) a few days ago and haven't got any responses to it.  Could someone look over the report and tell me if I'm missing/forgetting anything that should be incldued?
[14:12] <r-c> thx Slart & waylandbill
[14:12] <acke_> !help ps3
[14:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <Slart> danand: ah.. good catch.. missed that one
[14:12] <pi-meson> "Be warned that is not possible to expand the number of inodes on a filesystem after it is created, so be careful deciding the correct value for this parameter." -- from mkfs.ext3 manpage
[14:12] <Damont_Rouge> I recently downloaded bashpodder, it's a script podcast client.  It looks ok, except when I attempt to start it (./) it says I don't have permission.
[14:13] <acke_> !help ubuntu_ps3
[14:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ubuntu_ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:13] <pi-meson> well, this sucks
[14:13] <acke_> !help help
[14:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:13] <hspaans> Sludge321: first xfs on linux is a complete new implementation so no years of tested code. second the commit of the changes to disk is done in the wrong order which could lead to corruption in case of an error. Andrew Morton has also some nice comments about it
[14:13] <balle> how can i get to see my partition? it's called hda5?
[14:13] <Slart> acke_: looking for something?
[14:13] <acke_> yeah
[14:13] <Sludge321> jessica: do you have a graphical desktop installed?
[14:13] <honeypot> balle: using fdisk -l command if you are root
[14:14] <jessica> yes i use gnome if thats what you are asking me
[14:14] <hspaans> Sludge321: ext3 is an safe option for now
[14:14] <Sludge321> hspaans: ok - thanks :)
[14:14] <hyw> can anyone help me with this, http://ketsugi.com/panegyrist/howto-intellimouse-explorer-with-ubuntu-dapper/       it says (Replace event3 with the appropriate value taken from the earlier /proc/cat/ output.) not sure exactly what to replace.. type mouse0 instead of event3?
[14:15] <jessica> i have tryed gksudo update-manager -d but it dosnt let me update to 8.4 when running as root worked it gave me the option
[14:15] <balle> honepot: that just shows a list of my partitions, i wanna gain access to them
[14:16] <Damont_Rouge> ?
[14:16] <orangey> =j #miro
[14:16] <danand> hyw - had a look at that... its not too clear what its asking you to input there ....
[14:16] <Damont_Rouge> ?
[14:17] <jessica> i dont understand what i can do
[14:17] <thesurvivorman> jessica, can you run the update manager without errors in general to update/upgrade?
[14:17] <hyw> danand: yeah weird, though his shows mouse0 mine is mouse1
[14:17] <thesurvivorman> maybe you could ask in the ubuntu+1 channel for hardy heron
[14:17] <jessica> when i have updates for 7.10 and it comes up in my system tray it updates fine
[14:18] <Damont_Rouge> how do you get a question answered here?
[14:18] <balle> how do i gain access to my partitions?
[14:18] <thesurvivorman> just ask
[14:18] <Damont_Rouge> i did
[14:18] <Mimi> Hey I havent made any changes to my ubuntu box, havent even done any system updates recently (ive been using Windows this week, to play a game all the time :P ) but now wireless doesnt work in Ubuntu.. where should i start fixing this problem?
[14:18] <hanophix33> can someone tell me why firefox and flash go so slow?
[14:18] <thesurvivorman> if no one knows or is busy helping others, wait awhile and ask again
[14:18] <Damont_Rouge> sorry
[14:18] <Damont_Rouge> I recently downloaded bashpodder, it's a script podcast client.  It looks ok, except when I attempt to start it (./) it says I don't have permission.
[14:18] <thesurvivorman> no problem :)
[14:18] <danand> hyw - mines  Handlers=mouse1 event2 ??  hmmm...
[14:18] <Damont_Rouge> :)
[14:19] <thesurvivorman> sudo ./
[14:19] <Damont_Rouge> i tried that
[14:19] <thesurvivorman> chmod +X filename
[14:19] <thesurvivorman> maybe do that first
[14:19] <hyw> mine H: Handlers=mouse1 event3
[14:19] <Damont_Rouge> did that too as a part of the file
[14:19] <zoeker> Hallo
[14:19] <Damont_Rouge> do i need to make a .sh file extension?
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> in order to work?
[14:20] <wubrgamer> hey guys, I just manually installed openbox from the command line
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> as in padder.sh
[14:20] <hanophix33> can anyone fix slow and jerky flash in firefox
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> podder.sh
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> sorry
[14:20] <Slart> Damont_Rouge: no.. you don't
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> thank you
[14:20] <zoeker> hallo, ik ben een nederlander....
[14:20] <Damont_Rouge> well
[14:20] <Slart> hanophix33: adobe... unless you are using gnash or something
[14:20] <wubrgamer> Damont_Rouge just add #! /bin/bashorshorzsh or whatever to your first line
[14:20] <waylandbill> Damont_Rouge: no. a shell script has #!/usr/bin/sh on the first line of the file. The interpreter doesn't look at file extensions.
[14:20] <donkey7186> How do i put a new log on picture.!!
[14:20] <sam_> hi I am using a wireless PCI card with WPA encryption. I am using the default Ubuntu network manager with it, everytime I reboot it forces me to restart the network and reenter the encryption code before i can log on. Does anybody know how i can fix this or a better program to start my network connection automatically upon boot?
[14:20] <Slart> !nl | zoeker
[14:20] <ubotu> zoeker: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[14:20] <oni> !samba
[14:20] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[14:21] <balle> how do i gain access to my other partitions?
[14:21] <donkey7186> i downloaded a logon screen and i want to apply it how do i do that???????????
[14:21] <Damont_Rouge> ok
[14:21] <Damont_Rouge> i will try some things
[14:21] <Mimi> Hey I havent made any changes to my ubuntu box, havent even done any system updates recently (ive been using Windows this week, to play a game all the time :P ) but now wireless doesnt work in Ubuntu.. where should i start fixing this problem?
[14:21] <Damont_Rouge> thank you one and all
[14:21] <Damont_Rouge> :)
[14:21] <wubrgamer> anyone ?
[14:21] <danand> hyw - i would use event3 then, i think he's suggesting i would have to use event2 since my /proc output is  Handlers=mouse1 event2 .... just try it and see :)
[14:21] <waylandbill> Damont_Rouge: #!/bin/sh   actually, but you probably figured that.
[14:21] <Slart> Mimi: I would try setting it up again.. from the start..
[14:21] <wubrgamer> I also installed xserver-xorg, and gdm, I even tried xdm...none of them work !
[14:21] <bazhang> Mimi: doesnt work is not very descriptive; what have you tried to do and what error messages have you gotten
[14:22] <Slart> !doesntwork
[14:22] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:22] <Damont_Rouge> i did but thanks nonetheless :)
[14:22] <amenado> Mimi-> start with trying to see if you are still connected to your AP..  iwconfig    will show you
[14:22] <sam_> !doesntwork
[14:22] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:22] <Slart> donkey7186: there are probably instructions included in the download.. or on the site you downloaded it from
[14:23] <donkey7186> ok thank you
[14:23] <bazhang> sam_: you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish
[14:23] <sam_> bazhang, :P
[14:23] <amortvigil> hey i have an amd 64 laptop what is the best to do install 32 bit or 64 bit?
[14:23] <sam_> there isnt netcfg2 or wicd in apt-get :(
[14:23] <Mimi> amenado, Im not connected to the access point, gnome network manager says it fails, bazhang, no error messages, just fails to connect,  Slart, not much setting up to do lol, its a open wireless connection
[14:23] <Damont_Rouge> thank you again
[14:24] <Slart> amortvigil: I use 32-bit on my 64 bit laptop.. it's just a bit easier.. and unless you've got more than 4Gb of memory you won't miss out on much
[14:24] <Scunizi> amortvigil, 32 unless you're a linux vetran
[14:24] <bazhang> or dislike youtube
[14:24] <wubrgamer> 32bit, it's the most compatible, and there is no good flash on 64bit
[14:25] <amenado> Mimi-> okay, you can try to re-establish connectivity with AP.. sudo dhclient wlan0   assuming the nic name is wlan0
[14:25] <wubrgamer> anybody know how to get X running from scratch ? I just don't know what packages I need to install
[14:25] <Slart> wubrgamer: in fact.. the current workaround with ndiswrapper works pretty well..
[14:25] <davek> I'm running Hardy Heron beta as live CD and wanted to install. is the installer working OK? I heard that the Alpha installer didn't work right.
[14:25] <sachael> hi! anyone has a torrent of the 8.04 beta? Site seems down :(
[14:25] <Slart> !hardy | davek
[14:25] <ubotu> davek: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:26] <wubrgamer> Slart: that's funny
[14:26] <waylandbill> wubrgamer: installing a desktop environment should pull in X.
[14:26] <wubrgamer> openbox isn't a DE
[14:26] <olimpico> ompaul: Thanx a lot!!!!
[14:26] <davek> ok, I'll go to #ubuntu+1
[14:26] <krzysiek_> ubotu
[14:26] <Slart> wubrgamer: funny? it is?..  I don't think  I understand
[14:26] <Mimi> wubrgamer, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[14:27] <wubrgamer> you just said something about wireless cards to a question about X, anyway thanks Slart, you might want to take a break from helping these n00bs
[14:28] <wubrgamer> haha, xserver doesn't pull in xorg ?
[14:28] <wubrgamer> that's silly
[14:29] <balle> how do i gain access to my other partitions?
[14:29] <Scunizi>  wubrgamer do you want a full x and dm?
[14:30] <waylandbill> wubrgamer: xserver-xorg ?
[14:30] <wubrgamer> what wouldn't a full X be ?
[14:30] <Ergo^> hello guys
[14:30] <wubrgamer> I'm trying to keep it as minimal as possible,
[14:30] <wubrgamer> and I don't want a window manager if I can help it
[14:30] <Scunizi> wubrgamer, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[14:30] <wubrgamer> no no no
[14:31] <wubrgamer> I meant display manager
[14:31] <nonix4> Hmm, with most of ubuntu documentation referring to the GUIs... which packages should I apt-get install to get most of the "stock" ones available over ssh?
[14:31] <Ergo^> am i thinking right here ? if i install hardy beta - it will heep upgrading and it will reach a state when its equvalent to stable ?
[14:31] <wubrgamer> GDM, XDM, KDM, WDM etc
[14:31] <Slart> wubrgamer: hmm.. I was commenting on your "there is no good flash on 64bit".. at the moment it uses ndiswrapper to run 32 bit flash on 64 bit firefox... and it's working pretty well
[14:31] <waylandbill> wubrgamer: openbox depends on X libs, so it should pull in x for you.
[14:31] <wubrgamer> I thought ndiswrapper was a wireless thing exclusively...
[14:31] <wubrgamer> huh
[14:32] <wubrgamer> openbox doesn't pull in much
[14:32] <wubrgamer> anyway, I JUST got it working
[14:32] <wubrgamer> turns out I installed everything in the world BUT xorg
[14:32] <Slart> wubrgamer: I thought so too.. until firefox installed it for me =)
[14:32] <vallhalla81> Slart: tho it can cause fire fox to close sometimes
[14:32] <balle> how do i gain access to my other partitions?
[14:32] <waylandbill> wubrgamer: that's interesting as I'm looking at the list of dependencies.
[14:32] <maurits> hi.. i cant get ubuntu to run on my macbook
[14:32] <wubrgamer> gutsy ?
[14:32] <Al-Khouli> Hi guys, under mandriva i use page up and page down keys to move between suggested commands read from history, is there a similar functionality i can use under ubuntu !?
[14:33] <Scunizi> balle, did you install a new harddrive or something.. or do you just want to look for information another partition?
[14:33] <Gatonegr1> Hello! Does anyone know how to force Ubuntu to automount my HFS+ iPod in read-write mode?
[14:33] <wubrgamer> waylandbill: gutsy ?
[14:33] <hspaans> balle: maybe you should reframe your question if no one answers
[14:33] <Slart> vallhalla81: yes.. it's not perfect.. but it works most of the time =)
[14:33] <john_boi> hi , having an issue with ubuntu , when a user logs out of gnome then someone else logs in then the first user tries to login again gnome hangs
[14:33] <waylandbill> wubrgamer: yes
[14:33] <vallhalla81> balle: click plases/computer/partition
[14:33] <john_boi> anyone confirm ?
[14:33] <maurits> hi.. i cant get ubuntu to run on my macbook, I run ubuntu 7.10. It gives me the flashing folder
[14:33] <vallhalla81> places*
[14:33] <john_boi> bug perhaps ?
[14:34] <honeypot> maurits: macbook...is that x86?
[14:34] <ie72> balle: places top bar
[14:34] <maurits> yep that is
[14:34] <maurits> brand new
[14:34] <wubrgamer> strange, I'm also getting the n00bish errors of "unverified packages"
[14:34] <vallhalla81> Slart: i just run the non 64 bit on my 64bit machinme
[14:34] <vallhalla81> distro i mean
[14:34] <wubrgamer> like the proper gpg key isn't being recognized by apt or something, how do I fix that ?
[14:34] <balle> good idea, i would like to access my other partitions (ntfs), but sadly ubuntu cant seem to find it? how do i enlighten it?
[14:35] <Slart> vallhalla81: I do that on my laptop too.. but my desktop has 4GB memory.. so 64bit it is
[14:35] <maurits> honeypot: I just bought it and kicked off osx and installed ubuntu
[14:35] <vallhalla81> ah apart from memory is the any advantage to 64bit distro?
[14:35] <maurits> honeypot: I'm lost in all the EFI and MBR stories..
[14:35] <Sludge321> jonb_boi: yes that is a bug
[14:36] <Sludge321> john_boi: It has been fixed in hardy
[14:36] <boebi> hey
[14:36] <Slart> vallhalla81: well.. supposedly it's a little faster when it comes to pure number crunching.. I haven't done any benchmarks myself..
[14:36] <issa_> Guys I am trying to copy files from CD to PC using command line, in the shell I receive for every file an output like this : cp: reading `/media/cdrom0/Folder/File': Input/output error .. All the files are copied, but I don't understand why I recieve such error! what is that?
[14:36] <boebi> if i install 7.05 now, can i upgrade to 7.10 with the 7.10 life cd?
[14:36] <Ergo^> ubuntu-pl
[14:36] <Slart> issa_: are all the files reallt copied?
[14:36] <maurits> honeypot: I read that a normal install should work when you press the "option" key and select the other disk
[14:36] <issa_> Yes!
[14:37] <balle> good idea, i would like to access my other partitions (ntfs), but sadly ubuntu cant seem to find it? how do i enlighten it?
[14:37] <fahad> hi
[14:37] <vallhalla81> well i have been running it thrue its paces and the difernce (if any) must be in milliseconds
[14:37] <waylandbill> issa_: could be a media or hardware issue.
[14:37] <issa_> It's happening to all the files
[14:37] <Slart> issa_: then I have no idea.. but if I were you I'd check the md5 sums of the cd and the files on the hard drive.. just to be sure
[14:37] <issa_> Every kind of file actually ..
[14:37] <fahad> i have a problem with java applet and firefox when i start java it crashes ? ( any help ) ?
[14:37] <Scunizi> boebi, if you have 7.10 live cd just install it why go through the extra step?
[14:37] <issa_> How to do that?
[14:37] <jon_boi> infact no , just when the user tries to logout and back in
[14:37] <jon_boi> fast user switcher applet perhaps
[14:37] <ie72> balle: read man mount6
[14:37] <boebi> because i dont have the 7.10 life cd yet
[14:37] <waylandbill> issa_: is the surface of the CD okay? not scratched up?
[14:38] <issa_> Non of my CDs are Okay :)
[14:38] <balle> ie72: what is that?
[14:38] <boebi> i just want to know if its possible to upgrade using the cd, instead of ugrading trough internet
[14:38] <issa_> But I've used it before, it performed the same error .. now again using and the same thing but I am just wondering!
[14:38] <vallhalla81> balle: he me\ans typ that in a terminal
[14:38] <issa_> ALl songs, all files are fully coppied!
[14:38] <Scunizi> boebi, apt will prompt you to upgrade from .04 to 7.10 and then at the end of april again to 8.04
[14:39] <issa_> html, chm, txt, doc, mp3, ogg ... all
[14:39] <balle> so it's sudo read man mount6?
[14:39] <vallhalla81> nope just
[14:39] <hspaans> issa_: type in dmesg on the console and check for errors/warnings
[14:39] <boebi> whats apt?
[14:39] <vallhalla81> man mount6
[14:39] <Slart> issa_: well.. cd's have all kinds of neat redundency info.. so there might be an error that it could fix
[14:39] <Sludge321> jon_boi: This is a known bug - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/150471
[14:39] <linunut> balle: Just hit 'man mount6'
[14:39] <jon_boi> only a reboot will fix it....
[14:39] <waylandbill> issa_: again. sounds like a media or hardware issue. I'd try in another computer to see if you get the same results.
[14:39] <Scunizi> boebi, ah  that was not your original question.. the answer is... maybe.. i don't know
[14:39] <ie72> a man page telling you how to mount hd's
[14:40] <Slart> boebi: it is possible to update from a cd, yes.
[14:40] <vallhalla81> man = manuall
[14:40] <jon_boi> east mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point
[14:40] <boebi> alright thanks, so i can install an older version now,and the upgrade when i get the new cd?
[14:40] <jon_boi> sudo ofcourse ^^
[14:40] <boebi> thanks
[14:40] <jon_boi> anyone any ideas why when a user logs out he/she cannot log back in again ?
[14:41] <jon_boi> via gdm
[14:41] <vallhalla81> jon_boi: incorect password?
[14:41] <OasisGames> Only "20 minutes" of package installation left :)
[14:41] <jon_boi> no , logs in fine , gnome starts up but does not finish
[14:41] <jon_boi> i'm not that dumb eh
[14:42] <Ergo^> am i thinking right here ? if i install hardy beta - it will keep upgrading and it will reach a state when its equvalent to stable in 3-4 weeks?
[14:42] <hume> i've got a problem with MPD - cannot brows folders, get nothing to play. I've symlinked my music library, mounted via sshfs, to /var/lib/mpd/music, but cannot play - anyone got advice?
[14:42] <vallhalla81> jon_boi: where does it stop(as in not finish)?
[14:42] <balle> linunut: i've tried: sudo mount hda5   but it doesnt work
[14:42] <jon_boi> before the gnome splash screen
[14:42] <jon_boi> only way to fix it is a reboot
[14:42] <sarixe> hi, i heard hardy beta is out.  is it stable enough for normal use?  also, what's recommended, a fresh install, or an upgrade?  (i have a separate /home partition, so no worries there)
[14:43] <jon_boi> i'm assuming its not the X server or gdm tho
[14:43] <linunut> balle: unless you're in the directory /dev/ that's not going to work.
[14:43] <vallhalla81> jon_boi: is x configed correctly?
[14:43] <jon_boi> i'm thinking more locks
[14:43] <HardyOne> sarixe, #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <waylandbill> sarixe: #ubuntu+1 would be better place to ask
[14:43] <linunut> balle: You need an absolute path to your drive, not a relative one.
[14:43] <sarixe> oh true
[14:43] <jon_boi> yes , if i reboot user can login fine with compiz ect
[14:43] <jon_boi> doom3 all singing and dancing
[14:43] <linunut> balle: Try sudo mount /dev/hda5 /path/to/mount/to
[14:43] <hspaans> jon_boi: sounds like gnome-session is fubar, rename the dot-directories for gnome/gtk and try again
[14:43] <ie72> balle: try /dev/hda5
[14:44] <zaza666> join /debian-fr
[14:44] <balle> linunut: thx, and where should i mount it to?
[14:44] <ie72> to late
[14:44] <jon_boi> if he/she logs out and tries to log back in he/she cannot
[14:44] <hspaans> jon_boi: and can you check which processes are running?
[14:44] <jon_boi> there are many users
[14:44] <jon_boi> this happens with all users
[14:44] <jon_boi> sure htop
[14:44] <Scunizi> sarixe, I've been thinking abuot that .. upgrade to pull in the newer versions of programs and related files in /home then fresh install if there are querks
[14:44] <Mace_Blue> wgat does it mean if a channel has zwo crosses? for example ##flash
[14:44] <balle> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[14:45] <fluffels> anyone here have some experience with subversion?
[14:45] <dmacnutt> Mace_Blue: it means someone made a channel called #flash and irc will add another automagicaly
[14:45] <vallhalla81> !subversion
[14:45] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[14:45] <spz-> I've installed ubuntu w/ Wubi. I've had no problems booting ubuntu for about a week then all of a sudden I get a error when booting that say it can't show the GUI or something. any ideas ?
[14:46] <jon_boi> hardly any load , you have some specific process that would be nice to kill
[14:46] <fluffels> mmm... see I've installed it on a 7.10 server, but I'm having trouble with the post-commit hook
[14:46] <anderson> oi?
[14:46] <Riomerc> Hello again everyone! Another question: I don't suppose anyone's hard of the game "Stranded II"?
[14:46] <Mace_Blue> thanks dmacnutt but when i enter this one there are many people but nobody is writing
[14:46] <OasisGames> Five minutes later and still reading as '20 minutes'... The installation time prediction system is horrid...
[14:47] <balle> how do i find the absolute path to my partition?
[14:47] <Slart> dmacnutt: sure about that? I thought ## channels were inoffical channels of some kind..
[14:47] <ompaul> balle, df
[14:47] <maurits> hi.. i cant get ubuntu to run on my macbook, I run ubuntu 7.10. It gives me the flashing folder, I'm trying a ubuntu only installation
[14:47] <dmacnutt> Mace_Blue: doesn't mean anything
[14:47] <jon_boi> i think it must be lock files
[14:47] <jon_boi> somewhere
[14:47] <Mace_Blue> Slart yes this could be .. its topic means something with inofficial
[14:48] <ompaul> Slart, not official means not supported by the "official project"
[14:48] <dmacnutt> Mace_Blue: some channels have more activity than others
[14:48] <Isrefel> hola
[14:48] <jon_boi> if i completly stop gdm and start it again the problem persists
[14:48] <dmacnutt> Slart: join join ##junk
[14:48] <Mace_Blue> ok dmacnutt .. i was just wondering about the many people in there and the silence
[14:48] <Isrefel> hola que tal como era el canal ubuntu en español?
[14:48] <hspaans> jon_boi: you need to check which processes are still running for that user
[14:48] <Riomerc> Reask: I don't suppose anyone's hard of the game "Stranded II"?
[14:49] <Mimi> Isrefel, #ubuntu-es
[14:49] <Isrefel> gracias
[14:49] <micha__> join #ubuntu-de
[14:49] <Mimi> Hi, failing to connect to any wireless networks even though they are listed, output here: http://pastebin.com/d4f087a03
[14:49] <Mimi> Could anyone help?
[14:49] <Slart> dmacnutt: that doesn't really prove anything..
[14:50] <jon_boi> i'll be back...
[14:50] <KalEl> i want to learn how to deal with dependencies in apt
[14:50] <Riomerc> Mmkay, I'm taking the unresponsiveness as a "no"
[14:51] <Riomerc> Wrong channel anyway ^^
[14:51] <maxxra> ciao a tutti
[14:51] <arcticpenguin380> does Gutsy use CFC?
[14:51] <Flannel> KalEl: In what way?  apt is there so you don't have to worry about dependencies
[14:52] <chronic1> arcticpenguin380: I think CFC's are legal anymore. ;p
[14:52] <chronic1> *don't
[14:52] <vallhalla81> !cfc
[14:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:52] <KalEl> ok thanks... actually probably then i'd just like to learn about apt
[14:52] <arcticpenguin380> the process schedualar
[14:52] <Slart> dmacnutt: Primary channel names, formatted with a single leading hash mark (#), are reserved for participating groups and organizations based on their legal or informal claim to the associated name or name prefix. from http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[14:53] <arcticpenguin380> !cfs
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <adac> how can i increase sound volume in gnome? the volume applet is too silent
[14:53] <OasisGames> arcticpenguin380: And CFC is?
[14:53] <waylandbill> Kalel: probably learning about the MOTU would be a good place to start.
[14:53] <arcticpenguin380> ompletely Fair Scheduler
[14:54] <KalEl> ok thank you!
[14:54] <Flannel> arcticpenguin380: CFS is in Hardy
[14:54] <Mim1> Hello, im not being able to connect to my (or any ) wirelss connection from ubuntu anymore, I haven't done any changes or updates, as I have been using my windows box to play games for the past week. Could anyone help me out? some information: http://pastebin.com/d4f087a03
[14:54] <arcticpenguin380> then whats in gutsy?
[14:54] <Flannel> arcticpenguin380: whatever the kernel used prior to that.
[14:54] <OasisGames> That'd be CFS.... and it's a kernel feature introduced in one of the newer kernels...
[14:55] <balle> how do i see the file type of my partitons? whether it's ntfs or raw or what?
[14:55] <Mim1> doesn't 'mount' show the type?
[14:56] <Joelito> hi all, what download manager do you recommend me that supports pause and resume features?
[14:56] <Slart> balle: you can use gparted.. gnome partition manager
[14:56] <Mim1> Hello, im not being able to connect to my (or any ) wirelss connection from ubuntu anymore, I haven't done any changes or updates, as I have been using my windows box to play games for the past week. some information: http://pastebin.com/d4f087a03
[14:56] <ace_ace121> When i login, i get a dialog saying: HAL not started. I have to manually start it each time. Is there any way to restore the previous settings??
[14:56] <Slart> balle: there are other ways too.. I think you can just type mount ni a terminal too.. or "cat /etc/mtab"
[14:56] <waylandbill> Mim1: no need to repeat the question. Do you have decent signal strength to the AP?
[14:57] <vallhalla81> !bonobo
[14:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonobo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:58] <Mim1> waylandbill: I got disconnected that's why I repeated -_-
[14:58] <Mim1> waylandbill: its 30% strenght
[14:59] <Glop> I'm afraid that the latest update to mysql breaks it on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[14:59] <Mim1> waylandbill: but that hasn't changed either, its been the same since ever
[15:00] <ace_ace121> When i login, i get a dialog saying: HAL not started. I have to manually start it each time. how to start HAL at startup??
[15:00] <waylandbill> Mim1: that's a low signal though. You could try moving closer to the AP and see if it helps.
[15:00] <Mim1> waylandbill:  Windows connects to it fine, and really, I can't move closer
[15:00] <Mim1> ace_ace121: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271874
[15:01] <waylandbill> Mim1: unless you are using a windows driver through ndiswrapper, comparing the two is apples and oranges.
[15:02] <ace_ace121> Mim1, the thread just says how to start HAL
[15:02] <Mim1> waylandbill: I understand, but why would the linux driver stop wanting to connect out of the blue? it does the same steps as usual, until it reaches 'configuring device' at which it errors
[15:02] <balle> what can happen if i force mount something? can i like perma delete it?
[15:02] <dark_senses> k so i'm about to dual boot my laptop... if i decide i want to un-dual-boot it later, is there an official guide anywhere for how to take care of that? i cant find one on the main ubuntu site
[15:02] <ZeroDamage> Anyone recommend a IRC Bouncer that works and installs well with 6.06?
[15:03] <waylandbill> Mim1: problem happens even after a cold boot?
[15:03] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, muh
[15:03] <Mim1> waylandbill:  cold boot? You mean just a restart? Or shutting down, then turning on computer? haven't tried the latest
[15:04] <Mim1> Actually, I have
[15:04] <balle> what can happen if i force mount something? can i like perma delete it?
[15:04] <amenado> Mim1-> what do you have in the network settings?  roaming? try to uncheck roaming and select the AP you need to associate manually,
[15:04] <ZeroDamage> Exteris: muh's deb package doesn't create the muhrc config file which is making the setup a bit painful.  Know where it goes?
[15:05] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, /etc/muhrc? in a tar.gz in /usr/share ?
[15:05] <waylandbill> Mim1: cold boot is complete shutdown yes.
[15:05] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, or you get one from the site itself
[15:05] <fbc> I have an external USB drive that is on and connected all the time for backup and archival purposes. Is there anyway to spin it down when not in use? Some cron job maybe?
[15:05] <Biobia> hi all
[15:05] <Biobia> :)
[15:05] <ace_ace121> how to add HAL daemon back to the startup??
[15:06] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, why do you want to use muh and not direct connect?
[15:06] <elTigre> how can I configure a source package to use an older GNU C++ compiler?
[15:06] <dasmalty> Ahoi everyone.
[15:06] <ZeroDamage> Exteris: I want to maitain idle in a couple of particular channels without leaving my main system on.  I plan to run this on my home server.
[15:07] <lingzehong> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:07] <visof> what is the right name of "window maker" the window manger ??
[15:07] <visof> to install it
[15:07] <lingzehong> quit
[15:07] <gregory> elTigre: you can run ./configure --help, this will show you the env variables you could use
[15:07] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, ofcourse :P
[15:07] <sam_> Hi does anybody know how I change the ubuntu logo on the gnome menu bar to the default gnome-foot?
[15:08] <waylandbill> Mim1: sometimes a warm reboot, going from windows to linux can leave the wireless card in a odd state.
[15:08] <elTigre> gregory: no it doesn't
[15:08] <balle> what can happen if i force mount something? can i like perma delete it?
[15:08] <ZeroDamage> exteris:  are there any others besides muh that will install without the headache that muh has given me?  I would settle for a generic config file for muh if I could download one
[15:08] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, you could try psybnc
[15:08] <sam_> balle, i force mount both my windows drives on every bootup
[15:09] <Mim1> waylandbill:  think the wireless LED blinking furiously would be a simpton of the 'odd state' ? :P
[15:09] <sam_> balle, but that doesnt mean its a good thing
[15:09] <waylandbill> Mim1: I'd say that's less than optimal :)
[15:09] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, $HOME/.muh/muhrc. ?
[15:09] <hspaans> elTrige: CPP and CPPFLAGS are the environment variables you need to set
[15:10] <ZeroDamage> exteris:  It isn't maintained any more from I can tell (psybnc) and it would not install on my 6.06 server machine.  As for the muhrc file, it did not create that folder or put that file in there. Looking at the debian package contents, that file is not there.
[15:10] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, do a locate muhrc ?
[15:10] <ZeroDamage> exteris:  yep, nowhere on the system.  Have you tried miau?
[15:11] <computer13137> Hello
[15:11] <yodaz> hi
[15:11] <yodaz> is there any isync user here ?
[15:11] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, no i havent
[15:11] <computer13137> How do I make a "standard" ubuntu installation disk that boots up to a live CD - how do I tell it to just install CLI and no GUI?
[15:11] <balle> sam_: it's because it wont boot itself normally, it's and ntfs partiton
[15:11] <hellop> Is netselect-apt broken for anyone else?
[15:12] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, http://www.filewatcher.com/p/muh-2.1-0.rc1.3mdk.src.rpm.116312/muhrc.bz2.html
[15:12] <Da_Putzler> hi folks, how do I tell ubuntu which network device is my default Internet connectoin (in terminal) ???
[15:12] <ZeroDamage> exteris:  thanks.  Now I gotta figure out how to work with the bz2 file.  :)
[15:12] <dark_senses> is there an official/unofficial guide anywhere to going from a vista/ubuntu dual boot back to a single boot vista?
[15:13] <computer13137> Dark_senses
[15:13] <boebi> dark: use vista bootloader program
[15:13] <computer13137> Just delete the Ubuntu partition, then use your Vista DVD to "fix the boot loader".
[15:13] <boebi> you can reinstall the vista bootloader
[15:13] <computer13137> Exactly. :)
[15:13] <fbc> Spindown anyone?
[15:13] <gregory> elTigre: its all listed at the end of ./configure --help
[15:13] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, extract it, and put it in /home/user/.muh/muhrc
[15:13] <Daisuke_Ido> ZeroDamage, for starters, extract it
[15:13] <computer13137> How do I make a "standard" ubuntu installation disk that boots up to a live CD - how do I tell it to just install CLI and no GUI?
[15:13] <computer13137> I don't want Gnome and stuff.
[15:13] <dark_senses> ^dont have a vista dvd lol, got it with a new computer so i only have the weak recovery disks
[15:13] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: Ubuntu will use whatever Internet conn is available. No need for configuring a default one.
[15:13] <computer13137> And I don't feel like downloading another ISO.
[15:13] <computer13137> Seems like there should be a way to make this one do that.
[15:14] <Daisuke_Ido> computer13137, then you're SOL.
[15:14] <ompaul> !minimal | computer13137 (this is how you do what you want)
[15:14] <ubotu> computer13137 (this is how you do what you want): The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:14] <dark_senses> i'm assuming i could always just run the recovery disks but then i'm losing everything i had, along with all settings and whatnot
[15:14] <Exteris> lol, ZeroDamage, theres a sample in /usr/share/doc/muh/examples/muhrc.gz
[15:14] <Da_Putzler> dasmalty: that may be so, but when it screws up and I have to reset it manually, I really need to know how-to-do-it
[15:14] <Daisuke_Ido> you're going to have to download another cd image.
[15:14] <flyingsloths> Do any of you know of a good program i can use to find and replace multiple lines of text using regular expressions?
[15:14] <computer13137> ompaul: OK, I guess I'll have to do that.
[15:14] <computer13137> :P
[15:14] <boebi> i cant install ubuntu on my partition, it always says something like: formatting the partition on ... ext3 failed
[15:15] <waylandbill> computer13137: there is a server CD for 7.10.
[15:15] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: Reset the NIC you mean?
[15:15] <computer13137> Waylandbill: I know, I just wanted to see if there was a way I could get out of downloading it. :P  I will download it now that I know there is not.
[15:15] <boebi> also, when i look at my partitions in windows, i see 1 ext3, and 1 linux swap partition, if i look in ubuntu i see 2 of each
[15:15] <boebi> :s
[15:16] <waylandbill> computer13137: if you know how to use jigdo, you could use packages from the desktop cd to make a server cd with minimal downloading
[15:16] <ferric84> I have a ssh connection going that looks like this:  ssh -l <username> -L 8088:192.168.0.100:80 lan.mysite.com.  I'm trying to make sites on this lan local so I can work on them, by adding "hostname 127.0.0.1" to my hosts file, but I cannot get these to resolve in the browser
[15:16] <Da_Putzler> dasmalty: I tried sharing the internet connection from eth0 thru the masquerade route to wlan0 and it screwed up my internet connection... the only way I could get it fixed was to use my laptop on the cable-modem, download firestarter and use that to reset my desktop pc
[15:16] <ferric84> any ideas?
[15:16] <logi2> hey guys, i am getting a fatal server warning 'no screens found' when i try to start up, the loading screen before the gdm shows up but then it switches to command line
[15:16] <Da_Putzler> dasmalty: would be nice to know how to do the same without firestarter
[15:16] <ZeroDamage> Exteris:  It did not install that there for me.  Which is why I am here.  :)   Thanks for the help.
[15:16] <Mim1> ferric84: #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <Exteris> ZeroDamage, did the bz2 archive work alright?
[15:17] <boebi> anyone know if theres a guide for installation troubleshooting?
[15:18] <amenado> Da_Putzler-> do you have a drawing of your network layout? can you please paste it in pastebin?
[15:18] <boebi> it always says it failed installing on my ext3 partition
[15:18] <ompaul> !resolution | Da_Putzler (also do /msg ubotu YourVideoCardType )
[15:18] <ubotu> Da_Putzler (also do /msg ubotu YourVideoCardType ): The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:18] <waylandbill> ferric84: you need to configure resolv.conf to look at the hosts file over the dns server.
[15:18] <boebi> how many primary partitions can you have?
[15:18] <gregory> boebi: 4 i think
[15:18] <amenado> boebi-> per hard disk, 3
[15:19] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: Hm, I have to pass there, I'm no iptables expert :/
[15:19] <boebi> well i have 3, shouldnt be a problem?
[15:19] <ompaul> boebi, 4 - 3 primary and 1 extended if you want to go over that
[15:19] <Da_Putzler> dasmalty: I have 1 Desktop PC connected to a cable-modem through eth0, it has a wireless card setup for wlan0
[15:19] <boebi> well, i have 2 primarys, and 1 ext3
[15:19] <waylandbill> ferric84: adding 'lookup bind file' may help.
[15:19] <boebi> and ubuntu fails to install on my ext3
[15:19] <ZeroDamage> exteris:  thanks man.  I am working it now.
[15:20] <computer13137> Has anyone noticed
[15:20] <computer13137> And abrupt shortage of open source mirrors?
[15:20] <amenado> Da_Putzler-> do you have a drawing of your network layout? can you please paste it in pastebin? and show how your clients will connect
[15:20] <ferric84> waylandbill: I've done these before with just the hosts, but can't figure out what I did then
[15:20] <ompaul> boebi, (A) let it format that and (B) are you allowing for a separate swap partition
[15:20] <computer13137> It seems like...nobody is mirroring anything anymore and it's getting harder and harder to get a mirror of linux. :|
[15:20] <computer13137> There's only 3 ubuntu mirrors left in North America. :
[15:20] <computer13137> * :|
[15:20] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: You'll have to mess with iptables then, setup a routing table and all. Can't help you there, don't know enough iptables. Sorry. Talk to amenado ;)
[15:20] <computer13137> I'm getting all of 95KB/s
[15:21] <computer13137> Whoo there we go, picking up speed now. :P
[15:21] <OasisGames> Gah, wrong resolution (and I can't set it), missing 'libbeagle.so.0' so Nautilus won't start... things are very messy here...
[15:21] <boebi> ompaul, yes both, i have a 50gb ext3 partition with format checked, and a 5gb swap partition. when it gets to comfirmation screen is asks if these 2 should be used, and i just click forward
[15:21] <ompaul> !enter | computer13137
[15:21] <ubotu> computer13137: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:21] <Da_Putzler> guys, I dont need help setting anything up, it's all working now...  I just wanna know HOW to set the default gateway to eth0 if anything goes wrong
[15:21] <ace_ace121> When i login, i get a dialog saying: HAL not started. I have to manually start it each time. how to start HAL at startup?? i tried sudo update-rc.d hal defaults,which gives this message " System startup links for /etc/init.d/hal already exist"
[15:21] <boebi> and then it starts the partition manager, and it pops up with an error saying something failed on my ext3 partition
[15:22] <ompaul> boebi, that swap is too large delete them and allow it format them
[15:22] <waylandbill> computer13137: I'm sure a mirror uses tons of bandwidth and that doesn't come without cost.
[15:22] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: Ah, okay.. It's some setting in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[15:22] <gregory> Da_Putzler: you can set a default gateway with route add
[15:22] <LollinopiL> a .odt file (the openoffice file) can be opened with MS Office Word ? ?
[15:22] <boebi> ompaul, so i just resize my swap then?
[15:22] <OasisGames> Upgrade also removed my slocate database...
[15:22] <ompaul> boebi, no delete both partitions and let ubuntu choose how to do it
[15:22] <boebi> alright ill try that, thanks
[15:22] <Da_Putzler> so something like route add default eth0 ?
[15:22] <rsa_> Hey, anyone know how i can get my xbox360 controller working in kxmame?
[15:23] <dasmalty> Da_Putzler: Look into the manual. Yeah, something like that.
[15:23] <mad_goldfish> LollinopiL, you need a Word plug in to read odt files - or you can use Google Docs to convert them
[15:23] <LollinopiL> a .odt file (the openoffice file) can be opened with MS Office Word ? ? i've also added some diagrams etc etc ...
[15:23] <logi2> i have a terminal line ending in ^$, and i need to get it to start up so i can change the display settings, how can i do that?
[15:23] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: I think you need to save as a word doc for word to read it.
[15:23] <mad_goldfish> <<< is very happy that I can now access the internet using Ubuntu again :-D
[15:23] <Crofa> ahhh ez gehts
[15:23] <LollinopiL> uhm ok , i'll convert to a .doc file ... i hope that i won't have problems ... !
[15:23] <Crofa> scheinbar hat den mein name nicht befallen
[15:23] <Da_Putzler> thx ... :)
[15:24] <fbc> Is altering spindown_time = 24 in the /etc/hdparm.conf better than adding hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda to the end of that file?
[15:24] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: shouldn't have any trouble. The other solution is to get the recipients to install OpenOffice. :-D
[15:25] <Christoz> Hello Room !!!
[15:25] <LollinopiL> yea hhehe i hope that my university's teacher will do it ahah
[15:25] <thesurvivorman> I hope this is the appropriate place to ask... what happens when Hardy Heron is released? Will this become the Hardy Heron room at that point?
[15:26] <Christoz> I've run the compiz app on my system and it's perfect!
[15:26] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: good luck with that. unfortunately, I feel you'd be unsuccessful.
[15:26] <gregory> Da_Putzler: maybe (!) route add gw 1.2.3.4 dev eth0, better #ubuntu-server
[15:26] <Christoz> considering my system has 768 Ram
[15:26] <LollinopiL> :O you think that she won't install OpOff ? ? ?
[15:26] <Christoz> Is there any good add on for compiz to downlload?
[15:26] <waylandbill> Christoz: that's more dependent on the video hardware than system ram.
[15:27] <waylandbill> LollinopiL: usually universities have policies on what software gets installed.
[15:27] <ace_ace121> When i login, i get a dialog saying: HAL not started. I have to manually start it each time. how to start HAL at startup?? i tried sudo update-rc.d hal defaults,which gives this message " System startup links for /etc/init.d/hal already exist"
[15:27] <gregory> Christoz: is all on your system, no need to download additional stuff, this is not windows ;-)
[15:28] <LollinopiL> yeah ... -.-''
[15:28] <Christoz> waylanddbill agree but only compiz takes 210 mb Ram out of 768
[15:28] <lemod> How can i block all the traffic in a URL? using iptables? anyone knows?
[15:28] <pawan> hi
[15:28] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[15:28] <waylandbill> gregory: I think Christoz is looking for additional themes.
[15:29] <gregory> waylandbill: ah, thanks
[15:29] <dark_senses>  anybody heard of the super grub disk you can download?
[15:29] <_Elk> hi. is there an easy way of enabling PAE under ubuntu, specificaly Ubuntu Studio Gutsy
[15:29] <gregory> pawan: april
[15:29] <thesurvivorman> I hope this is the appropriate place to ask... what happens when Hardy Heron is released? Will this become the Hardy Heron room at that point?
[15:29] <pawan> any beta release
[15:29] <waylandbill> lemod: yes. block it in the firewall or use a content filter.
[15:29] <Christoz> waylanddbill for example ...i saw a backgraound behind the cube running on youTube
[15:29] <lemod> waylandbill, do you know the cmd?
[15:29] <mackid> pawan: Hardy Heron is scheduled to be released on April 24
[15:30] <lemod> i don't want to cause any errors
[15:30] <dark_senses> according to their website, the super grub disk lets you repair the windows mbr, so if i was to uninstall ubuntu from my dual boot, i could use super grub to get windows to boot correctly
[15:30] <peleg> Hi. I have made a nice cronjob that operates as an alarm - it calls "mplayer -really-quiet -shuffle -playlist /home/peleg/.alarm-playlist" every morning. My problem is: how do I make it stop? currently I have mplayer running on the "backgroun", and the only way I see to stop it is by killing its process. what do you say?
[15:30] <Bitmess> When trying to install Gutsy it stops with the following error "PCI Cannot allocate resource region 1 of driver 0000:00:14.0"
[15:30] <gregory> pawan: google.. or goto www.distrowatch.com, they have a copy of the announcement for latest beta
[15:30] <waylandbill> lemod: you could use a front-end like firestarter or guarddog.
[15:30] <peleg> (I am using gnome)
[15:30] <lemod> i want with iptables tho
[15:30] <OasisGames> Holy crap a lot of stuff is broken... Nautilus is giving me symbol lookup errors left and right, I can't my display to use the right resolution even though it's the only one set in my xorg.conf... Gah...
[15:30] <waylandbill> thesurvivorman: yes.
[15:31] <rwycuff> does apt-get distup grade work to upgrade to hardy without breaking anything
[15:31] <thesurvivorman> Thanks waylandbill :)
[15:31] <waylandbill> lemod: there a reason you don't want ipchains?
[15:31] <SliMM> hello
[15:31] <lemod> hmm
[15:31] <aalper> Good morning or whatever :-)
[15:31] <gregory> rwycuff: not 100%
[15:32] <Creeture> Hey all. I have a Gutsy system that I need some PAM help with. The RedHat config looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60414/ - what's the Ubuntu equivalent of that?
[15:32] <SliMM> how do i install a dll in wine
[15:32] <SliMM> ?
[15:32] <sam_> hi does anybody know where i can find good settings for compiz-fusion (like to make it look the best)
[15:32] <ura> hello i need help to make a virtual machine with qemulator
[15:32] <aalper> I'd love some help learning how to setup apache2 to autostart on 7.10
[15:32] <waylandbill> rwycuff: one would hope, but being beta things can happen. Backup data before trying is my suggestion
[15:32] <fbc> SliMM,  just throw the dll in the directory of the program that needs to use it.
[15:32] <thesurvivorman> do you have CCSM installed sam_?
[15:32] <rwycuff> gregory: so whats the best way to upgrade and not loose your data and configs
[15:33] <fbc> SliMM, They generally do not have to be installed unless it's a system wide thing.
[15:33] <thesurvivorman> install it and then run it to adjust the settings for compiz
[15:33] <rwycuff> waylandbill: sorry should have said when its stable is that good idea
[15:33] <gregory> rwycuff: i would suggest waiting for final hardy in april
[15:34] <Bitmess> When trying to boot Gutsy live CD it stops with the following error "PCI Cannot allocate resource region 1 of driver 0000:00:14.0" any help plese?
[15:34] <waylandbill> rwycuff: when it is stable, an upgrade would likely go smooth, but I still recommend backing up at that point as well. :-)
[15:34] <bazhang> rwycuff: #ubuntu+1 please
[15:34] <rwycuff> gregory: i intend to its just when it is final is the apt-get distupgrade goood or still not 100% good idea
[15:34] <fbc> I love ubuntu. I still can't believe I'm running xp (for legacy apps) inside ubuntu..
[15:34] <soto> How do I move the desktop-switcher applet on the gnome panel?
[15:34] <OasisGames> Switched to 'intel' driver, resolution is fixed, but I'm still getting symbol lookup errors nautilus (I've tried reinstalling it and libeel, to no avail)
[15:34] <xomp> Bitmess, I had a similar problem booting gutsy on my dell optiplex 320. Had to pass on some commands on boot up to get it to even boot.
[15:35] <thesurvivorman> right-click and move
[15:35] <rwycuff> waylandbill: back up is a given always good idea
[15:35] <Creeture> So, I asked a pointed PAM question. I'll pretend I'm a n00b now. HEY, d0es anybody know how to help me with PAM?
[15:35] <aalper>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[15:35] <soto> thesurvivorman: There is no 'move' option
[15:35] <dark_senses> anybody here ever used the super grub disk?
[15:35] <Bitmess> xomp: any idea where I could find these commands?
[15:35] <gregory> rwycuff: there are no guarantees. as i understand the "unspoken" policy of ubuntu they are no soo much focused on upgrade compatibily
[15:36] <hyw> hi, trying to install imwheel (sudo apt-get install imwheel) and this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60415/
[15:36] <waylandbill> fbc: legacy apps my run in wine. May run faster than a VM if you're using such a thing.
[15:36] <ura> hello someone can help with qemulator
[15:36] <thesurvivorman> soto, I can right click and then click on move to move the desktop switcher
[15:36] <akira_> some1 plz help me with that ---> http://paste.org.ru/?nwc2e6
[15:36] <gregory> ura: just ask your question
[15:36] <xomp> Bitmess, I'm sure google has them (trying not to sound cliche') but it's really what I did :(
[15:36] <ura> gregory i need to make a vrtual windows machine
[15:36] <OasisGames> gah, now apport is is giving me a pop for every freaking program that died when I restarted X with ctrl+alt+backspace >_<
[15:36] <comicinker> help! I search a tutorial for glade-3 (!) and gtk+, optimal if it would be related to anjuta
[15:36] <thesurvivorman> you may need to unclick lock to panel first
[15:37] <Bitmess> xomp: I'm still digging for answers on Google, so far no one has a solution.
[15:37] <ura> gregory: i have qemulator but i don't understand how install windows with qemu
[15:37] <soto> thesurvivorman: thanks. Lock to panel was it
[15:37] <xomp> Bitmess, yeah, I think the things I passed on the command line were like "noapci" and such. Let me check
[15:37] <leopatra> who can help me with setting up a shared folder between OS X 10.5 leopard and Ubuntu?
[15:38] <fbc> waylandbill, It needs to be that wya because the legacy app is a mail encryption app that supplants the I/O of the OS, so I was sure that wine was not prepared for such a thing, however I will try it and run my test in wine, and if it works I can get rid of the VM session.
[15:38] <aalper> Can someone tell me how to get apache2 to autostart on Gutsy?
[15:38] <xomp> Bitmess, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:38] <foo_> hey folks
[15:38] <Chokes> hi all
[15:38] <foo_> does anybody seem to know why Second Life is very slow with 945GM chipset?
[15:38] <waylandbill> ura: use the command line option to set your cdrom device with the windows installation disk in it and tell qemu to boot from it.
[15:38] <foo_> I believe I already installed opengl shizzle
[15:38] <OasisGames> nautilus: symbol lookup error: nautilus: undefined symbol: eel_drect_empty < Anyone else getting this after an upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy?
[15:39] <leopatra> who can help me with setting up a shared folder between OS X 10.5 leopard and Ubuntu?
[15:39] <gregory> ura: http://qemulator.createweb.de/ they have documentation and tutorial
[15:39] <waylandbill> fbc: you'd be surprised how much wine supports.
[15:39] <Bitmess> xomp: Thanks, I'll try it
[15:39] <rsa_> Hey guys, iam trying to usin a joystick t to controll my elisa media center.. expect i dont know how i can set it up to pickup the inputs
[15:39] <ura> waylandbill: more then qemu i'd like use qemulator
[15:39] <high-freq> leopatra: use samba
[15:39] <fbc> aalper,  /etc/init.d/apache2 start will do the job manually, I would suspect having to enter the line in the rc.local, however I believe it should startup automatically unless otherwise told.
[15:39] <Chokes> pk now ubuntu + Fakeraid on ubuntu is starting to piss me of......
[15:39] <Chokes> ok*
[15:40] <SupaFly> !paste
[15:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:40] <aalper> fbc I thought it would but it doesn't
[15:40] <ace_ace121> When i login, i get a dialog saying: HAL not started. I have to manually start it each time. how to start HAL at startup?? i tried sudo update-rc.d hal defaults,which gives this message " System startup links for /etc/init.d/hal already exist" ... Is there another place where i must post problems related to HAL daemon ??
[15:40] <_Elk> do i need to compile the kernal to get PAE suport under ubuntu ?
[15:41] <waylandbill> ura: ahh. sorry. :)
[15:41] <recon> _Elk: i have no ida what PAE support is, but you can't use a module?
[15:42] <fbc> waylandbill, the other problem would be having to install my mail package in wine as well to use the encyption software.. Well then again I have to install it into the VM anyways so it's not much of a sacrifice. I have all of my mail accounts in thunderbird(running natively) and one mail account configured in the vm with the encryption software. But it's worth a try! I'll let you know how it goes.
[15:42] <gregory> Elko_: you can check build spec of any package on ubuntu website
[15:42] <_Elk> reac, its to get suport for my 8 GB of RAM, dont know if i can just set a boot parameter or somthing ... ?
[15:42] <Creeture> _Elk: There has to be a PAE kernel out there somewhere. I don't have an i386 machine to check. Heading to the Google.
[15:43] <sam_> does anybody know how i make all windows transparent with compiz-fusion?
[15:43] <aalper> Well, that's interesting, this install from the live DVD does not even HAVE apache2 installed
[15:43] <TheViLliN> is there complex issues with upgrading a motherboard under ubuntu 7.10
[15:43] <ompaul> _Elk, you need 64bit
[15:43] <_Elk> Creeture, ok, might there be a chans that such a kernal is provided with ubuntu, or do i need to compile it myself or find somone els whos done it ... ?
[15:43] <Some_Person> Is there a way to get Tux: A quest for herring working on ubuntu?
[15:43] <ompaul> _Elk, does not work fir desktopz
[15:43] <fbc> aalper, sry, I'm not that much a geek in linux. There are probably others here that help with such a easy problem.
[15:44] <Creeture> _Elk: You could always just consider installing the amd64 version of Ubuntu.
[15:44] <_Elk> ompaul, thanks
[15:44] <Creeture> aalper: What're you trying to do?
[15:44] <sam_> _Elk: the amd64 version can do everything the i386 can pretty much at this point
[15:44] <_Elk> Creeture , ok, i thought about that, but how is that on handeling 32.bit apps ?
[15:44] <waylandbill> TheViLliN: shouldn't be as long as the chipset is supported.
[15:45] <Creeture> _Elk: It works just fine. This for a desktop machine? If so, I'm running it now. No problems.
[15:45] <aalper> Creature, get apache2 to autostart, but it doesn't even seem to be installed by default on the amd64 version
[15:45] <_Elk> ok, desctop yes
[15:45] <ompaul> aalper, the dvd just carries the default install for a couple of versions and source .. not the full main
[15:45] <ompaul> aalper, and installing it is fast with sudo apt-get install apache2
[15:45] <Creeture> aalper: apache2 isn't installed by default on any Ubuntu distribution. Just aptitude install apache2
[15:45] <aalper> So I see, ompaul
[15:45] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting
[15:45] <aalper> I did not know that before
[15:45] <balle> !forceboot
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forceboot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <leopatra> If i try to connect to ubuntu SMB Shares it always tells me ive got a wrong password :-( any idea why is that?)
[15:46] <_Elk> Creeture, i'm gona try that then, i have a hunch that my motherboard is giving me some trouble aswhel so i guess i'l try a live CD first, thanks for the help
[15:46] <aalper> Hard to have something autostart that
[15:46] <aalper> is not installed lmao
[15:47] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting
[15:47] <waylandbill> leopatra: smb shares on a linux system or a windows system
[15:47] <theunixgeek> I'm surprised at how much faster the torrent download for the Xubuntu Hardy Beta. 15 KB/s for the server, 300 KB/s bittorrent :)
[15:47] <Creeture> aalper: When you get to the autostart stuff, do a "man update-rc.d" for the official way to do it. rc.local should be pretty well left alone.
[15:47] <Maimster> How's everyone.
[15:47] <leopatra> smb shares on UBUNTU
[15:47] <waylandbill> leopatra: did you add the user to the smbpasswd database?
[15:47] <Some_Person> Is there a way to get Tux: A quest for herring working on ubuntu?
[15:48] <BobPenguin> Hello guys. I want to burn a DVD with long filenames. I tried to use brasero but I got a "file not found" message. I installed graveman but it does not show a "longfile suport" option, so I don't know if that would work. What should I do?
[15:48] <leopatra> where do it do that...can i do that without the terminal?
[15:48] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting
[15:48] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting?
[15:48] <sinbox> BobPenguin, you tried GnomeBaker?
[15:49] <waylandbill> leopatra: yes, but 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' is simple enough in a terminal.
[15:49] <aalper> Thanks, Creature, and all
[15:49] <BobPenguin> Thanks a lot sinbox. I will try it right now
[15:50] <leopatra> okay...did that
[15:50] <leopatra> got a lot of options now
[15:50] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[15:50] <TheViLliN> waylandbill:  so you think i could just drop in the new board or will i have to re run something
[15:50] <dark_senses> anypeoples heard of the super grub disk?
[15:51] <Some_Person> Is there a way to get Tux: A quest for herring working on ubuntu?
[15:51] <leopatra> to waylandbill: what do i do now?
[15:51] <TrioTorus> where do I post packaging questions?
[15:51] <Creeture> BobPenguin: You're looking for Joliet extensions probably. Make sure whatever you're burning with has the -J and -r options turned on (most are a frontend to cdrecord).
[15:51] <tuxbox> Some_Person: what is it? a program? a dvd?
[15:51] <Some_Person> tuxbox: A game
[15:51] <waylandbill> leopatra: was the command successful?
[15:51] <TheViLliN> waylandbill: I don't think i'd get that lucky, lol,   it would be from intel to amd  _
[15:51] <fbc> waylandbill, Yeah, just as I thought. It gave me errors in wine "could not start proxy on port 110 or 25". I need to VM it... Thanks for the tip anyways.
[15:52] <leopatra> to waylandbill: yeah i have options now.... (local mode.., debug level, remote machine etc.)
[15:52] <tuxbox> Some_Person: you paid for it? no? then check via the package manager, if its prepackaged available
[15:52] <OonSuomesta> I was searching for color schemes for gedit, and I found a site from live.gnome.org but somehow I can't load that page. Has the live.gnome.org crashed or what?
[15:52] <waylandbill> fbc: that's because ports under 1024 are protected and can only be used by root.
[15:52] <TrioTorus> dpkg -b msttcorefonts-2.2/ complains about missing /DEBIAN/control file. But in the source dir there is a lowercase debian directory. Can I not use dpkg -b to build ubuntu packages?
[15:53] <Some_Person> tuxbox: it was in debian's repository in 2003, but has since been removed, and never made it to ubuntu afaik
[15:53] <hyw> hi, Can anyone please help..  trying to install imwheel (sudo apt-get install imwheel) and this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60415/
[15:53] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[15:53] <leopatra> to waylandbill: what do i do now?
[15:53] <waylandbill> TheViLliN: probably installing a binary video driver is going to be the only thing you need to do.
[15:53] <tuxbox> Some_Person: download the source and compile by yourself. it will work or not. just try
[15:53] <Some_Person> tuxbox: thats what im attempting to do, but i get a dang error
[15:54] <TheViLliN> waylandbill:  good thought
[15:54] <mad_goldfish> I realise this isn't completely an Ubuntu q, but my Ubuntu box at home is connecting through a router that got set to being an access point by accident. Is there any way to figure out the ip address of that router? Or any channel you suggest I try?
[15:54] <Christoz> Has anyone of you played wormux?
[15:54] <waylandbill> leopatra: smbpasswd shouldn't give you options. It should ask you for a password and then add the user.
[15:54] <saschahl> rsa_: still trying the media center thing? what media center is it? do you know if it can use joysticks as input?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !info ntfsfix
[15:54] <PurpZeY> indeed
[15:54] <ubotu> Package ntfsfix does not exist in gutsy
[15:54] <PurpZeY> Am I voiced?
[15:54] <tuxbox> Some_Person: what is the  the error message?
[15:54] <waylandbill> Christoz: that's a fun game. :)
[15:54] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[15:55] <Some_Person> tuxbox: i get this when compiling: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXi
[15:55] <balle> purpsey: i can see what you are wrting?
[15:55] <balle> zzz
[15:55] <tuxbox> Some_Person: before "make" you checked the output of configure. everything ok with that?
[15:55] <dark_senses> if anybody's ever heard of/used the super grub disk [it's used for repairing an mbr], please pm me
[15:55] <Christoz> waylandbill In feisty was my favorite game but now in gytsy can't lunch it
[15:55] <Some_Person> tuxbox: ./configure worked
[15:55] <ompaul> mad_goldfish, open a terminal and type sudo dhclient - that will tell you the where you get your ip from
[15:55] <Christoz> waylandbill why is that
[15:55] <Christoz> ?
[15:56] <Some_Person> tuxbox: my guess is im missing some package, but i dont know which one
[15:56] <Gatonegr1> Alright... I have managed to write tracks to my iPod by changing its filesystem to HFS (without Journaling). But the iPod won't read the tracks stored in it. Does anyone know why?
[15:56] <comicinker> how can I obtain the content of a text box in gtk?
[15:56] <waylandbill> Christoz: does it give an error? running in a terminal will let you see stderr output.
[15:57] <leopatra> to waylandbill: -a
[15:57] <tuxbox> Some_Person: ok, so this is a general compile question. try in #ubuntu-devel. for them it could be peanuts
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> balle, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/otherosfs/ntfsprogs  may be of help
[15:57] <Christoz> waylandbill this is the response : [ Run game ]
[15:57] <Christoz> ! Error in graphic/video.cpp:197: Unable to initialize SDL library: No available video device
[15:57] <Christoz> tool/error.cpp:84: Missed assertion "false".
[15:57] <Christoz> C++ exception caught:
[15:57] <Christoz> Unable to initialize SDL library: No available video device
[15:57] <Christoz> Aborted (core dumped)
[15:57] <FloodBot2> Christoz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <mad_goldfish> thanks ompaul
[15:57] <Some_Person> tuxbox: i just fixed that one, but now i get another one: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu
[15:58] <Christoz> waylandbill this is the response : [ Run game ]
[15:58] <Christoz> ! Error in graphic/video.cpp:197: Unable to initialize SDL library: No available video device
[15:58] <Some_Person> tuxbox: im just missing a lot of libs
[15:58] <waylandbill> Gatonegr1: did you update the database. Did you use gtkpod or similar program?
[15:58] <ferric84> is there a way to find out more information about a process, like what it's specifically doing?
[15:58] <Christoz> C++ exception caught:
[15:58] <leopatra> to waylandbill: it say to add a new user i have to type in -a, but if i just type in -a it tells me "command not found"...sorry im really new into "terminal stuff"
[15:58] <Christoz> Unable to initialize SDL library: No available video device
[15:58] <tuxbox> Some_Person: you can check the old debian build spec file. it lists the needed packages from 2003. could give you a lot of hints
[15:59] <sorsis> How do I get macosx like taskbar
[15:59] <waylandbill> Christoz: I saw the error. no need to repeat it.
[15:59] <tuxbox> tuxmaniac: packages.debian.org
[15:59] <tuxbox> Some_Person: packages.debian.org
[15:59] <tuxbox> tuxmaniac: sorry
[15:59] <waylandbill> leopatra: right... smbpasswd -a
[15:59] <Christoz> Christoz sorry i thought you couldn;t see cause of the flood
[16:01] <Stroganoff> is it possible to customize/skin the screen lock dialogue of xscreensaver?
[16:01] <Some_Person> tuxbox: great, now i get a plib error (this is not caused by missing lib, more likely by incompatible lib)
[16:01] <leopatra> to waylandbill: if i type in that nothing really happens...i just see my options again (no feedback)
[16:01] <waylandbill> leopatra: you need to include the desired username after the -a
[16:02] <Gatonegr1> waylandbill: I did try GTKPod (seemed to create the playlists, but the iPod doesn't read them), Banshee (couldn't create playlists or anything at all), Rhythmbox (copies files, doesn't create playlists) and Amarok (still trying), without much success with any of them.
[16:02] <darksky0> hi ^^
[16:02] <darksky0> how do I excecute file? :D
[16:03] <Exteris> darksky0, click on it :P
[16:03] <Biohazard> darksky0: ./your_file
[16:03] <waylandbill> Christoz: unfortunately I don't know what's causing the SDL error
[16:03] <tuxbox> Some_Person: you have enough ram for debian 2003 left? install it into a virtual machine and your done
[16:03] <darksky0> lol!
[16:03] <Exteris> but only if it has the executable bit set
[16:03] <Some_Person> tuxbox: uhh, rather not
[16:03] <comicinker> is lookup_widget the actual way to get a pointer from an widget?
[16:03] <Some_Person> tuxbox: i got this game running back on dapper, but i cant remember how
[16:03] <darksky0> Exteris in the kernel? ^^
[16:04] <comicinker> or is there another way?
[16:04] <Some_Person> tuxbox: i dont think i compiled it though
[16:04] <dark_senses> anyone heard of the super grub disk?
[16:04] <darksky0> I'm connected to a ubuntu server on another continent lol
[16:04] <tuxbox> Some_Person: i am no coder, sorry, cannot help further
[16:04] <thesurvivorman> Gatonegr1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[16:04] <tuxbox> dark_senses: post a link or explain
[16:04] <darksky0> Exteris ? ^^
[16:04] <Nasra> Darksk0....where are you ?
[16:05] <darksky0> Nasra UK
[16:05] <OonSuomesta> hyw: Do as the error message said, use sudo apt-get -f install
[16:05] <Nasra> oh okay....
[16:05] <Exteris> darksky0, no, using chmod +x file
[16:05] <dark_senses> tuxbox- i was just curious if anyone used it before- it's supposed to fix the mbr if you uninstall linux from a vista/linux dual boot- lemme grab a link quick
[16:05] <Nasra> what you think so far of Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:05] <DeadLy_> hello
[16:05] <darksky0> ok I'll try
[16:05] <cameodemon> any idea how to deal with crappy looking secondary displays in ubuntu because it looks ok under windows
[16:05] <SliMM> how can i make a LAN?
[16:06] <dark_senses> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=home
[16:06] <Nasra> go for it you will not regret it...
[16:06] <DeadLy_> i've problems with my ATI radeon on xubuntu 7.10, anyone can help to me please? :((((
[16:06] <darksky0> lol
[16:06] <dark_senses> tuxbox- the site just looks kind of... unofficial, so i dont want to do this and have it mess my stuff all up
[16:06] <TrioTorus> what am I doing wrong in apt-get source msttcorefonts to get a /debian directory instead of /DEBIAN?
[16:06] <darksky0> is it exec file?
[16:06] <DeadLy_> i've problems with my ATI radeon on xubuntu 7.10, anyone can help to me please? :(((( Ops is a 9200.
[16:06] <cameodemon> yes just throw your ati card out because it sucks. i have one in my laptop and it drives me nuts
[16:06] <OonSuomesta> DeadLy_ when was that ATI radeon graphics card made? It might be that the graphic card is too new and its not supported
[16:07] <DeadLy_> OonSuomesta, but on ubuntu 7.10 works fine :o
[16:07] <thesurvivorman> DeadLy_: what is the problem, first of all
[16:07] <DeadLy_> because on xubuntu not
[16:07] <wedgeV> is there a flash and java for x86-64 yet?
[16:07] <OonSuomesta> have you tried the reserved drivers?
[16:07] <DeadLy_> i haven't 3d accel
[16:07] <wedgeV> s/ a //
[16:07] <cameodemon> or the restricted drivers
[16:07] <DeadLy_> x86
[16:08] <OonSuomesta> yes, that what i was looking for
[16:08] <leopatra> to waylandbill: hmmm...doesnt really do anything....it looks like this:http://www.leopatra.de/Webverwendung/Bild%201.png
[16:08] <__mikem> How high can the refresh rate go on an HP Pavilion dv6000 display go?
[16:08] <darksky0> exec file to execute? omg I feel noobish pain XD
[16:08] <OonSuomesta> restricted drivers, DeadLy_, have you tried it?
[16:08] <thesurvivorman> you need to enable the restricted driver and install xserver-xgl
[16:08] <DeadLy_> hm yes
[16:08] <DeadLy_> not work
[16:08] <tuxbox> dark_senses: "unofficial" i agree with that. you can join their irc channel and ask there? just to get an impression of how the guys are
[16:08] <darksky0> aalper B-rabbit c9s_ d0lphin_n0el eFfeM
[16:08] <OonSuomesta> DeadLy_ did it say that you dont have any need for restricted drivers or what?
[16:08] <eFfeM> hi, when I want to log in into ubuntu, i am kicked out immediately saying that I cannot run gtk+ as setuid; issue is that I did not do anything there, so no idea where to look to repair it
[16:09] <DeadLy_> My hardware don't need restricted drivers OonSuomesta
[16:09] <dark_senses> tuxbox- yeah lol i went there... there's only one person in the room and he's apparently afk :\
[16:09] <nonix4> can Xephyr / Xnest be used without xfonts-base?
[16:09] <robby_kane> sup guys?
[16:09] <thesurvivorman> DeadLy_: did you install xgl... i can run compiz and have 3d accel. with xgl installed
[16:09] <OonSuomesta> DeadLy_ use sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[16:09] <DeadLy_> thesurvivorman, but i dont want compiz
[16:09] <_ajw_> does anyone know a way to bind keys to scripts in gnome (or system-wide...) without using compiz-fusion?
[16:09] <waylandbill> leopatra: BTW. you need to run with sudo.   sudo smbpassd -a username
[16:09] <DeadLy_> ok OonSuomesta :) i go to try it
[16:09] <dark_senses> tuxbox- i googled a bit and it seems to be mentioned on a few sites... i just saw it listed on linux.com, i didnt get a chance to read their article about it yet
[16:09] <Christoz> waylandbill I'have Nvidia FX 5200 128MB but it's not listed in gutsy's graphics list (in feisty's was)
[16:09] <thesurvivorman> DeadLy_: it's the only way I got 3d accel though
[16:10] <orbisvicis> does ubuntu have the jack alsa plugin as a package ?
[16:10] <thesurvivorman> XGL needs to be installed more than likely
[16:10] <DeadLy_> thesurvivorman, then ? sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl xgl ?
[16:10] <tuxbox> dark_senses: there are loads of projects, which offer "rescue systems". even the ubuntu cd might offer something like that. 1. check if ubuntu has what you need. step2: if 1 doent work check google for "linux rescue system"
[16:10] <d0lphin_n0el> darksky0 :)
[16:10] <thesurvivorman> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[16:10] <DeadLy_> perfect
[16:10] <OonSuomesta> yes thats what i told
[16:10] <leopatra> waylandbill: thank you
[16:10] <leopatra> waylandbill: i think it worked
[16:11] <thesurvivorman> then you'll need to reboot... I told him that too awhile ago. It's okay, easy to miss in here.
[16:11] <leopatra> waylandbill:  have to check
[16:11] <lkthomas2> hey guys
[16:11] <OonSuomesta> yup, its such a fuss in here
[16:11] <DeadLy_> done
[16:11] <lkthomas2> anyone setup ipsec with l2tpd on ubuntu ?
[16:11] <thesurvivorman> reboot and then see if it works :)
[16:11] <high-freq> !feisty
[16:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu.  Upgrading to Fesity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[16:11] <DeadLy_> OonSuomesta, thesurvivorman restart system now?
[16:11] <OonSuomesta> DeadLy_ now you need to restart your linux
[16:12] <high-freq> whats the 7.10 release called?
[16:12] <dark_senses> tuxbox- i've been hunting around for weeks, it seems that the only alternative is to have a windows vista disk [i only have recovery disks] to repair the mbr after linux is uninstalled, so that vista will boot properly, making the computer a single boot once again
[16:12] <thesurvivorman> yes
[16:12] <DeadLy_> ok, see u :)
[16:12] <waylandbill> !gutsy
[16:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[16:12] <high-freq> kk
[16:12] <OonSuomesta> !calc 2+2
[16:12] <leopatra> waylandbill: haha...okay it worked very nice...unfortunatly its some weird "print$" directory and not the one i wanted
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc 2+2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <tuxbox> dark_senses: dual boot doesnt work now? it is a linux only boot now?
[16:13] <eFfeM> hi, when I want to log in into ubuntu, i am kicked out immediately saying that I cannot run gtk+ as setuid; issue is that I did not do anything there, so no idea where to look to repair it, anyone a suggestion where to start ?
[16:13] <waylandbill> leopatra: System->Admin->Shared folders will let you configure shared folders
[16:13] <OonSuomesta> Does anyone know why is live.ubuntu.org down?
[16:13] <OonSuomesta> i mean live.gnome.org, sorry
[16:14] <tuxbox> OonSuomesta: #gnome
[16:14] <OonSuomesta> oh of course, sry
[16:14] <balle> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:14] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:14] <leopatra> waylandbill: YIPPPIH!!!
[16:15] <leopatra> waylandbill: Thank you....isnt it weird that you cant do that without graphical interface
[16:15] <dark_senses> tuxbox- i havent yet made my computer a dual boot- i wanted to research the entire process before i did anything like this... it's a vista computer now- if i dual boot it with ubuntu, it will reconfigure the mbr to allow the computer to boot either vista or ubuntu- no problems yet... if at any point i decide i want to get rid of ubuntu [probably wont, i love it, but nonetheless], i'll need an actual vista disk to repair the mbr so
[16:15] <DeadLy_sp> re
[16:16] <hspaans> dark_senses just: let grub do chainload of vista
[16:16] <OonSuomesta> did it work?
[16:16] <thesurvivorman> how did it work DeadLy_sp
[16:16] <DeadLy_sp> OonSuomesta, thesurvivorman hi, and now?
[16:16] <DeadLy_sp> is more slow now :o
[16:16] <thesurvivorman> It should work
[16:16] <thesurvivorman> what is?
[16:16] <DeadLy_sp> i need activate any thing now?
[16:16] <OonSuomesta> shouldnt he/she go to restricted drivers now?
[16:16] <thesurvivorman> and you should have had the resitricted drivers installed
[16:16] <thesurvivorman> i always install them first
[16:17] <thesurvivorman> but enable them
[16:17] <dark_senses> hspaans- uhhh how do i do that :x
[16:17] <DeadLy_sp> same :s
[16:17] <SliMM> hello
[16:17] <thesurvivorman> you need to restart x after that
[16:17] <DeadLy_sp> my hardware not need restricted drivers...
[16:17] <balle> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:17] <SliMM> i have a problem with drivers
[16:17] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:17] <hspaans> dark_senses: Resultaten 1 - 10 van circa 206.000 voor grub chainload (0,29 seconden)
[16:17] <OonSuomesta> SliMM could you be more specific?
[16:17] <thesurvivorman> you mean you can't install them or there is no option to?
[16:17] <DeadLy_sp> i need install compiz thesurvivorman?
[16:17] <Some_Person> tuxbox: i got it! i found an rpm someone built for SuSE in 2005, and after linking a few libs, it works!
[16:17] <tuxbox> dark_senses: so reforulate your question (which i cant answer, sorry). what do i need to write a new mbr, so i have the old bootloader removed?
[16:17] <OonSuomesta> Tell us what the problem is exactly and we can help you SliMM
[16:17] <SliMM> OonSuomesta: i plug in the usb a monitor calibration device
[16:17] <tuxbox> Some_Person: great
[16:18] <fbc> What do you have to restart for changes to the /etc/hdparm.conf to take effect?
[16:18] <robby_kane> um this is the ubuntu channel all talk of suse is not alowed lol
[16:18] <SliMM> OonSuomesta: i install the windows software with wine
[16:18] <OonSuomesta> ok, SliMM, ask someone else i have to go, sry.
[16:18] <SliMM> :))
[16:18] <SliMM> ok
[16:18] <tuxbox> dark_senses: people can help you better then
[16:18] <SliMM> could anyone here help me?
[16:18] <high-freq> anyone ever use barry for syncing to a blackberry curve 8300 phone
[16:18] <DeadLy_sp> thesurvivorman, i need install compiz-manager?
[16:19] <dark_senses> tuxbox- that sounds about right, yes, but you're not really removing the old bootloader, just kind of changing it back to what it was before ubuntu reconfigured it
[16:19] <high-freq> !blackberry
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackberry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <fbc> suse is ok, but it's german and not alot of docs in english, well at least 10 years ago when I fist tried it.
[16:19] <robby_kane> isnt blackberry a phone?
[16:19] <sorsis> why my apt can't find avant-window-navigator?
[16:19] <balle> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:19] <tuxbox> dark_senses: like backup
[16:19] <waylandbill> dark_senses: you'd only need to do that if you remove ubuntu. Why would anyone want to remove ubuntu?  ;-)
[16:19] <fbc> robby_kane, yeah phone/pda
[16:20] <dark_senses> tuxbox- i know that it can be done with a vista disk... problem is that i dont have one and i dont plan on spending 300 bucks on one lol, so i was curious if anyone knew how well this super grub disk works
[16:20] <SliMM> in the hardware info application, my calibration device gets listed as "volume.disc", "volume", "block"
[16:20] <high-freq> robby_kane, ya
[16:20] <fbc> robby_kane, I got phon/pda/camera/mp3 player. motorola q
[16:20] <dark_senses> waylandbill- i know man, that's an excellent point, but in all reality, i'll probably resell the computer at some point or give it to my sister or something... she has no idea what ubuntu is, let alone what an "operating system" is
[16:21] <high-freq> tryin to tether this phone so i can use it as modem for laptop under ubuntu ;)
[16:21] <thesurvivorman> DeadLy_sp: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[16:21] <tuxbox> dark_senses: i understand. still if you narrow down your question down to a single project peoples chances to help also narrow down. friendly
[16:21] <DeadLy_sp> thanks !
[16:21] <task0> hello all, i compiled pidgin on ubuntu, and now i want to uninstall it... is there way on removing compiled version? thanks!!!!
[16:21] <thesurvivorman> DeadLy_sp: I used that in the past to get XGL and Compiz working on Xubuntu
[16:21] <tuxbox> task0: make uninstall
[16:22] <task0> tuxbox, it says it does not exist
[16:22] <leopatra> to waylandbill: I dont have write access on the share... how do i change that?
[16:22] <waylandbill> dark_senses: in that case, you'd clear the hard drive and the recipient would install windows. You have to be careful not to violate the EULA during a sale anyway.
[16:22] <tuxbox> task0: are you in the path: /home/user/here-i-compiled-pidgin ?
[16:23] <task0> tuxbox, yes
[16:23] <waylandbill> leopatra: give write permission to the files to the user on the linux end.
[16:23] <tuxbox> task0: and do make uninstall as root?
[16:24] <dark_senses> waylandbill- lol that's a good point... alright, well then assume that ubuntu on my computer gets taken over by a ship full of pirates and i have to uninstall it and go back to a single boot vista machine :D
[16:24] <task0> tuxbox, that did the trick! tanks!!!!!
[16:24] <balle> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:24] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:24] <orbisvicis> does anyone know the package that provides the alsa-jack plugin ?
[16:25] <hspaans> balle: you tried google?
[16:25] <leopatra> waylandbill: its not staying if i do it like this: http://www.leopatra.de/Webverwendung/Bild%202.png
[16:25] <waylandbill> dark_senses: if you give it to your sister, I'd imagine she'd be grateful and would get free technical support in learning ubuntu. :-D
[16:25] <SliMM> ok, what should i do now? http://pastebin.ca/951690
[16:25] <high-freq> omfg...brainfart...how do i change user password via terminal
[16:26] <leopatra> waylandbill: http://www.leopatra.de/Webverwendung/Bild%202.png
[16:26] <dark_senses> waylandbill- lol ok but seriously... linux.com says it should work, i cant believe nobody's ever used it before tbh... seems like a very important and useful tool imo- could potentially save people hundreds of dollars
[16:27] <vallhalla81> dark_senses: save money what? what did i miss?
[16:27] <epitron> hey guys... i'm having some strange problems with alsa.. I can play sound as root, but not as a regular user...
[16:27] <waylandbill> dark_senses: remember. at one point, she didn't know windows either. It's like getting a new car. You know how to drive, the controls on the radio are just a little different. :-)
[16:28] <epitron> is alsa using a /dev to paly sound through?
[16:28] <dark_senses> vallhalla81- if you dont have vista u needn't worry lol
[16:28] <balle> it aint working very well
[16:28] <vallhalla81> dark_senses: ah thats ok i got rid of vista about 2 montsh ago
[16:28] <leopatra> waylandbill: no i can write on the volume...but i cant read :-(
[16:28] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:29] <dark_senses> valhalla81- lol we should all be so lucky
[16:29] <hspaans> epitron: usermod -a -G audio <username>
[16:29] <waylandbill> dark_senses: I'm sure it is a useful tool, but it's not doing anything amazing as grub can be installed with grub-install command.
[16:29] <vallhalla81> dark_senses: are you under the imprestion you need it for somthing/
[16:29] <dark_senses> waylandbill- it wouldnt necessarily be used to do that though, i would only need it to repair the mbr if i chose to go back to a single boot vista
[16:30] <epitron> hspaans: i did that... i had to do "newgrp audio" to make it go though
[16:30] <dark_senses> vallhalla81- i'm hanging onto it for warranty reasons tbh- else i'd move on
[16:30] <epitron> actually, i used gpasswd
[16:30] <vallhalla81> dark_senses: ah i see
[16:30] <leopatra> waylandbill: sorry...now it seems to work
[16:30] <hspaans> epitron: relogin and then do "id -a" the group should be listed there or else you did something wrong
[16:30] <leopatra> waylandbill: no idea why
[16:31] <leopatra> waylandbill: but it works
[16:31] <waylandbill> dark_senses: but vista should have a recovery console to restore the bootloader is my point. A new installation would do the mbr automatically.
[16:31] <leopatra> waylandbill: thanx for the help
[16:31] <epitron> hspaans: ok, so i won't have to do "newgrp" every time I login? :)
[16:31] <Slart> is there a way to get a progress bar when moving files on the command line?
[16:31] <waylandbill> leopatra: good. I couldn't read german from your screen cap. :-)
[16:31] <hspaans> epitron: euh... no
[16:31] <leopatra> waylandbill: haha...yeah i guessed so
[16:31] <DeadLy_sp> problems with my ATI :(
[16:31] <bam363> k
[16:32] <dark_senses> waylandbill- it doesnt have a built in recovery console for that kind of thing- sure i could use the system recovery thing but that will wipe all of my stuff on my vista partition... if you have an actual vista disk you can open a command prompt and run the one fixboot/mbr command to take care of it
[16:32] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:32] <hspaans> epitron: you should be member of the group audio to play audio
[16:32] <gregory> Slart: this is an example for "cp"  http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2008/01/24/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget/
[16:32] <vulcar> I had dvd's playing through the default totem-movie player but now when a movie starts to play it is showing up like an old vhs [green squares and static and bad characters showing up]. Everyone once in awhile it says plugins are missing. any idea's on how to get totem working again?
[16:32] <dark_senses> waylandbill- but i dont have a vista disk [only recovery disks which will wipe everything], so the super grub disk seems like a good alternative: free versus 300 bucks... i'll take free :D
[16:32] <hspaans> balle: you tried google already?
[16:33] <balle> yea, i did
[16:33] <balle> nothing, but a bit about forecasting in ubuntu
[16:33] <hspaans> balle: there you have your answer
[16:33] <dennis> hello  everyone !
[16:33] <waylandbill> dark_senses: I hate that. You don't even get an install disk from OEM's these days. Glad I don't rent windows anymore.
[16:33] <dennis> i am a new one
[16:34] <Slart> thanks, gregory
[16:34] <gregory> dennis: hi dennis. welcome. read silently. or ask a question ;-)
[16:34] <dark_senses> waylandbill- yeah it's pretty weak
[16:34] <dennis> thanks
[16:34] <balle> hspaans: ehm where is the answer?
[16:34] <balle> i need something on force booting, not forecasting
[16:35] <speedhunt3r> hi.. I've got an issue with wireless... I have to boot into windows for the wireless to pick up the signal then boot back into ubuntu and then under connections it can pick up the wireless signal... However, If i go straight to Ubuntu, it doesn't detected the signal nor does it auto connects... Is there something I can do to fix this delimma?
[16:35] <balle> hspaans: also, the forums dont have anything either
[16:36] <waylandbill> speedhunt3r: using a native linux driver or ndiswrapper?
[16:36] <LollinopiL> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:36] <LollinopiL> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:36] <LollinopiL> ????
[16:36] <speedhunt3r> waylandbill, I have no idea, I just bought a usb to wifi connector for my desktop... plugged it in
[16:36] <gregory> LollinopiL: just run it as root ;-) no report needed
 gregory: thanks
[16:36] <LollinopiL> YEAH
[16:36] <hspaans> balle: which part of forecasting you don't understand?
[16:37] <dennis> LollinopiL: hi
[16:37] <LollinopiL> holà
[16:37] <balle> hspaans: i do not need forecasting, i need force booting, i do think that there is a difference
[16:38] <epitron> hspaans: omgomg it works thank you! :D
[16:38] <hspaans> epitron: np
[16:39] <waylandbill> speedhunt3r: if you don't know then it's probably a kernel module. Possible that it has an issue with the hardware. You could try a windows driver through ndiswrapper.
[16:39] <dennis> wf
[16:39] <speedhunt3r> waylandbill, the whole reason i'm using wireless is cause my wired connection is down, and this signal is comming two floors above mine, so the signal str is low... can that cause this?
[16:40]  * epitron does the amarok dance
[16:40]  * Exteris Listens
[16:40] <waylandbill> speedhunt3r: yes, low signal strength could be a problem
[16:40] <dennis> who can tell me  how about ubuntu 8.04 ?
[16:41] <gregory> dennis: channel #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <waylandbill> dennis: #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <balle> what are the dangers of forcebooting? it says that i can only forceboot the ntfs partition i got
[16:41] <speedhunt3r> waylandbill, then how come windows can pick it up and stays connected but ubuntu drops? signal str problem or i should try the driver installation?
[16:41] <dennis> what's that ?
[16:41] <dennis> channel #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <gregory> dennis: just type /join ubuntu+1
[16:41] <waylandbill> speedhunt3r: I would try to improve the signal first and then attempt ndiswrapper if that doesn't help.
[16:41] <Exteris> !ubuntu+1 | dennis
[16:42] <ubotu> dennis: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:42] <epitron> i don't think dennis is ready for 8.04
[16:42] <epitron> first one must master IRC
[16:42] <epitron> then one can master ubuntu betas
[16:42] <dennis> why ?
[16:42] <epitron> i just said!
[16:43] <v3ctor> i mastered beta linux distros waaay before i ever used irc
[16:43] <dennis> hehe
[16:43] <waylandbill> balle: did you improperly shutdown windows at some point to cause an error on the ntfs partition?
[16:43] <gregory> dennis: not everything said in this channel is true
[16:43] <vulcar> I had dvd's playing through the default totem-movie player but now when a movie starts to play it is showing up like an old vhs [green squares and static and bad characters showing up]. Everyone once in awhile it says plugins are missing. any idea's on how to get totem working again?
[16:43] <epitron> v3ctor: ok, ok.. not mastering. :)
[16:43] <dennis> ok .. but ..  how ?
[16:43] <epitron> BASICS.
[16:43] <thehumanerror> if I install 8.04 beta on a server, and it all seems great, will I need to reinstall when the non beta comes out?
[16:43]  * epitron has this feeling that dennis will be asking a lot of questions
[16:44] <hspaans> epitron: I should cancel my upgrade to Hardy?
[16:44] <thehumanerror> or will I be able to apt-get upgrade to it? Or dist-upgrade or whatever it is?
[16:44] <speedhunt3r> waylandbill, yeah i guess =p it's a temp solution till my wired net gets fixed by tomorrow... but I enjoyed how easy it was to setup wireless on ubuntu... i guess it's the signal str.
[16:44] <dennis> haha
[16:44] <v3ctor> epitron: but he will be asking in #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <epitron> hspaans: YES
[16:44] <epitron> v3ctor: i have ethics. :\
[16:44] <waylandbill> dennis: be aware that running beta software can break your system. Back up important data first.
[16:44] <thehumanerror> ooh I should maybe in #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <hspaans> epitron: you have some good reasons?
[16:44] <thehumanerror> thanks, laters
[16:45] <epitron> hspaans: no, that was just a knee jerk reaction :)
[16:45] <epitron> i thought we were playing a game actually
[16:45] <epitron> but nevermind
[16:45] <dennis> ok   i change channel
[16:46] <dennis> talk about what's friendly
[16:46] <hspaans> epitron: k, just wondering
[16:48] <mp_> hi all., Ive installed kubuntu w KDE4 using the Wubi which means that my Windows partition should be accessible from Kubuntu I suppose.. But I cant find it, where would it be located?
[16:48] <word> how hard is it to create a window's segment on a ubuntu computer
[16:49] <sam_> yo whats the command to take a screenshot of ur desktop via a terminal. Thanks!
[16:49] <waylandbill> mp_: /windows usually. you can look in /etc/fstab to see.
[16:49] <v3ctor> sam_: printscreen
[16:49] <sam_> v3ctor: thanks m8
[16:50] <word> err I want to create a windows partition on my ubuntu computer
[16:50] <word> how do I do this
[16:50] <v3ctor> more like a button [printscrn]
[16:51] <waylandbill> word: are you saying you want to create an ntfs partition?
[16:51] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[16:51] <word> not sure what ntfs means
[16:51] <word> but probably
[16:51] <thesurvivorman> basically, a windows partition
[16:51] <word> yeah
[16:51] <LjL-Temp> word: it's the filing system that windows xp uses. ubuntu normally uses ext3
[16:51] <tritium> word: (Windows) NT file system
[16:51] <mp_> waylandbill / ehh... I cant seem to find any fstab in etc...
[16:51] <word> ah
[16:51] <word> yes
[16:51] <wubrgamer> how do I get rid of a WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated
[16:51] <wubrgamer> error  ?
[16:51] <word> I want to create a windows partition
[16:51] <LjL-Temp> !gpgerr | wubrgamer
[16:51] <ubotu> wubrgamer: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys <key> ; gpg --export --armor <key> | sudo apt-key add - »
[16:52] <infernal_jesus> word: cfdisk or fdisk
[16:52] <wubrgamer> I'm only using the ubuntu repo's, all of them, including universe etc etc...but nothing custom
[16:52] <waylandbill> word: System->Admin->Partition Editor. Use with extreme care.
[16:52] <word> ok thanks
[16:53] <mp_> waylandbill can it be because Im running Kubuntu/KDE4?
[16:53] <waylandbill> mp_: you have to have /etc/fstab
[16:54] <speedhunt3r> hey if desktop effects stop working, and then everytime i restart gdm it's back on... how can i stop it from stop working? I am not even down anything heavy graphics wise... just chatting and browsing the net, and then deskop effects will stop
[16:54] <mp_> waylandbill / I found it. I was looking for a folder >P
[16:55] <crshman> what's the command to view all the hardware on my system?
[16:55] <eTiger13> can a group be a member of another group?
[16:55] <wubrgamer> >>
[16:55] <mp_> waylandbill / thats weird... I cant seem to find any mention of Windows at all... I thought Linux had reached a point where it could communicate w Windows XP?
[16:55] <hspaans> etiger13: no
[16:56] <thesurvivorman> are you thinking of lspci crshman
[16:56] <LjL-Temp> eTiger13: if you want that degree of sophistication, you might want to investigate ACLs
[16:56] <|mike|_> hey everyone
[16:56] <crshman> thesurvivorman: that's the one, thanks!
[16:56] <waylandbill> mp_: it can, but if you manually configured partitions during install and did not tell it to set a mount point, then it didn't add it to the fstab
[16:57] <thesurvivorman> crshman: no problem
[16:57] <|mike|_> anyone willing to help out someone trying to dual boot :) ?
[16:57] <gregory> eTiger13: i would think no. users can me members of many groups.
[16:57] <erUSUL> !dualboot | |mike|_
[16:57] <ubotu> |mike|_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[16:57] <|mike|_> !dualboot
[16:57] <|mike|_> oh ok
[16:58] <mp_> waylandbill I don\t remember manually configuring any partitions. I just installed it through Wubi.
[16:58] <|mike|_> i just am wondering about the manual partioning
[16:58] <|mike|_> i'm installing on a drive that windows isn't installed on
[16:58] <LjL-Temp> mp_: then you have a "fake" (simulated) HD on your Windows partition
[16:58] <pisank_man_> ,jhb
[16:59] <pisank_man_> kkk
[16:59] <pisank_man_> diki asu
[16:59] <mp_> LjL/Temp how can I reach the files / more specifically my music library / in my Windowsfolders then?
[17:00] <dukan> ...
[17:00] <the> wedus
[17:00] <LjL-Temp> mp_: i don't really know.
[17:00] <sz90> is ubuntu backports like debian unstable in that packages are less secure?
[17:00] <mp_> damn
[17:00] <hspaans> less secure?
[17:00] <waylandbill> mp_: you need to add an entry in your fstab to have the system mount the partition automatically or simply mount it when you need it.
[17:01] <|mike|_> can I pm someone what I'm doing so I make sure I don't mess up my partioning?
[17:01] <|mike|_> If they don't mind
[17:01] <LjL-Temp> sz90: they can be less secure, i suppose, because any security updates don't automatically propagate to them. i wouldn't compare to debian unstable though
[17:01] <mp_> waylandbill > But how can I mount it if I dont know its identity or number or whatever?
[17:01] <waylandbill> |mike|_: if you dont' have windows and just will have ubuntu alone, then the guided (automatic) paritioning should be sufficient
[17:02] <waylandbill> mp_: sfdisk -l will tell your paritions.
[17:02] <waylandbill> mp_: or the System->Admin->Partition Editor for a gui experience.
[17:02] <sz90> since I don't plan to update ssh or security software to backports, would you say the system is still secure?
[17:02] <hyw> Can anyone help me install imwheel.. this happens when I try installing it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60422/
[17:02] <pisank_man_> can i get to your convrsation guys??
[17:03] <LjL-Temp> sz90, backports are usually not core apps. i really can't picture ssh in backports
[17:03] <|mike|_> waylandbill, i want to boot xp and ubuntu, but windows is on C:
[17:03] <|mike|_> or
[17:03] <|mike|_> i mean
[17:03] <|mike|_> sda
[17:03] <mp_> waylandbill > Im running Kubuntu&KDE4
[17:03] <|mike|_> sdb would be my other hd then i assume
[17:04] <sz90> okay. Thanks LjL-Temp. So, your advice would be try it and don't worry?
[17:04] <|mike|_> on windows its split to D: and E:
[17:04] <|mike|_> so on ubuntu it be
[17:04] <|mike|_> sdb1 and sdb2
[17:04] <waylandbill> |mike|_: that's fine. It should ask which drive to install to and will want to use the whole drive.
[17:04] <sz90> the only reason I'm considering this is because I would like to test firefox 3.
[17:04] <Xamusk> does wodim have problems writing to SCSI devices?
[17:05] <LjL-Temp> sz90: they always worked fine for me... you can always consider only installing the specific application you need updated, anyway
[17:05] <|mike|_> i want to pick sdb1 but not the whole drive
[17:05] <waylandbill> mp_: that's right. I forgot. qparted is the gui version.
[17:05] <|mike|_> or can i used the whole drive but share it ?
[17:05] <hspaans> sz90: just download the nighlybuild from mozilla and extract it
[17:05] <|mike|_> *use
[17:05] <kane77> hi.. I have problem with postgresql package and pgadmin - the pgadmin that is in repositories won't work with the 8.3 version of postgres (well it works but gives errors), and if I install 8.2 version of postgres it just cannot connect... anyone else had problems with this?
[17:05] <waylandbill> |mike|_: okay. so what's the question? what partitions to make?
[17:06] <MasterShrek> |mike|_ im not 100% sure what you are trying to do, but linux and windows can both read eachother's files (a bit harder from windows but possible)
[17:06] <sz90> hspanns, do you have to build it or can you get a binary?
[17:06] <waylandbill> hyw: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:06] <hspaans> sz90: binary
[17:06] <|mike|_> on sdb1 i want to use 15 gb out of the 137436MB
[17:06] <|mike|_> so id just use for the partition
[17:06] <sz90> okay. I'll try that. Thanks.
[17:06] <|mike|_> 15360
[17:06] <|mike|_> ?
[17:06] <Xamusk> my k3b is working fine in an ATAPI drive, but it's not working on SCSI ones
[17:06] <MasterShrek> |mike|_ if its already a partition, i dont think you can just use part of it, thats what partitions are for you'd have to make a new partition table i think
[17:07] <waylandbill> |mike|_: you don't have to hit 15mb on the nose. It's going to want to round to even cylinders anyway.
[17:07] <mad_goldfish> I'm trying to upgrade openoffice using synaptic, but I'm getting 404's on this and other debs. Is this a configuration problem at my end or a server problem? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb
[17:07] <dark_senses> omg i'm pretty sure i'm an idiot..
[17:07] <thesurvivorman> the site is down
[17:08] <MasterShrek> mad_goldfish try opening a terminal and running sudo apt-get update   (close synaptic first)
[17:08] <|mike|_> ok so ill just use 15000 but ubuntu will automatically take this away from my D:\ in window
[17:08] <thesurvivorman> just click on the link and try to open it... it's dead
[17:08] <|mike|_> windows
[17:08] <hyw> waylandbill: wow thanks again, now imwheel installed
[17:08] <MasterShrek> mad_goldfish generally a 404 is not found, so chances are youll need to use a different mirror for your repositories
[17:08] <dark_senses> microsoft... MICROSOFT!! created a recovery disk specifically for windows vista. they recognized how many users needed the recovery options not provided by manufacturer recovery disks so they made a disk specifically for that- it's free to download. it cannot be used to install vista like a regular vista disk can, but it offers all of the recovery options that the vista disk would, so i can open a command prompt and fix the mbr ma
[17:09] <|mike|_> i guess I want to know during my install (now), does edit partition shrink my D:\ or am i taking it away
[17:09] <MasterShrek> dark_senses #windows
[17:09] <waylandbill> dark_senses: i'm not sure that will turn me to the dark side, but at least that got that right. :)
[17:09] <zainerkin> Im am having problems following instruction from this site I keep on getting error. I would like to start again with some assistance
[17:10] <vulcar> Does anyone have totem-movie player working on ubuntu 7.10 ? I think an update recently destroyed its playback ability
[17:10] <zainerkin> http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack#linux1
[17:10] <dukan> ...
[17:10] <zainerkin> the sights above
[17:10] <praveer_cool> what is the init process similar to prefdm in ubuntu ?
[17:10] <praveer_cool> init script sorry
[17:10] <dark_senses> waylandbill- yeah, i cant believe how long it took me to find that... i should've looked to the source for an answer >.< stupid stupid stupid.
[17:10] <mp_> waylandbill > I cannot find qparted. Not even in Adept. Wtf??
[17:10] <sz90> Xamusk, I remember having a similar problem in debian. K3B didn't detect the drive normally, but if you put a disk in, it registered it.
[17:11] <praveer_cool> To be exact I want the one which calls gdm and startx x at bootup
[17:11] <zainerkin> Im am having problems following instruction from this site  http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack#linux1   I keep on getting error. I would like to start again with some assistance
[17:11] <MasterShrek> zainerkin what kind of error? are you compiling from source? there is a package for aircrack-ng in the universe repository
[17:11] <waylandbill> mp_: That's cause I goofed: qtparted
[17:11] <Xamusk> sz90, but it does detect the drive, but when I try to burn a disc, it fails... same happens with the gnome disk burner (the one that burns ISOs directly)
[17:11] <mad_goldfish> MasterShrek, apt-get didn't report any problems on the update
[17:12] <MasterShrek> mad_goldfish try to update it from the command line then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:12] <zainerkin> Mastershrek the error I have forgoten but it occured on when configureing a package and installing it.
[17:12] <Ulfalizer> how do i install apache 1.3 in ubuntu? i can only find packages pertaining to apache 2.
[17:12] <MasterShrek> zainerkin are you compiling it or installing from the repository?
[17:12] <gregory> Ulfalizer: compile your own versiob
[17:12] <sz90> what type of disk are you trying to burn?
[17:12] <zainerkin> the instructions are vague to me and plus im not that good in linux. Well crap actualy
[17:12] <peace> how to copy file to windows from ubuntu? i cannot find the windows partition..via linux
[17:12] <zainerkin> MasterShrek im not even sure
[17:13] <Xamusk> sz90, DVD
[17:13] <mad_goldfish> OK, will do. Cheers. The lists must be 6 months out of date now so wouldn't surprise me if things have moved :-)
[17:13] <Xamusk> DVD-R
[17:13] <sz90> dvd+R or dvd-R?
[17:13] <Ulfalizer> gregory: okay. is there some special reason 1.3 isn't included? i think it's still in pretty widespread use, and there are still new releases.
[17:13] <zainerkin> should I start from the begining would it be to much to ask to shadow me from step one from     http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack#linux1
[17:13] <Xamusk> DVD-R
[17:13] <hyw> waylandbill: how can I create a new file ~/.imwheelrc
[17:13] <sz90> nm, have you tried burning anything else (a cd or dvd+r) with K3B.
[17:13] <MasterShrek> zainerkin ok, go system > adminstration > software sources       and make sure that the first 4 boxes are checked, close the window, it should ask you to update, say yes, then open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[17:14] <waylandbill> hyw: gedit ~/.imwheelrc
[17:14] <Xamusk> sz90, no, but I managed to burn a DVD with the growisofs command
[17:14] <gregory> Ulfalizer: apache 1.3 is not typical user of ubuntu. you might try debian. or ask in #ubuntu-server if someone has a 1.3 package
[17:14] <peace> anyone can help me? :)
[17:14] <GarethAdams> my passcode isn't working with ssh-add - although it works when I use it with Pageant on my windows machine
[17:14] <zainerkin> okay so I should not follow the guide from http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack#linux1  since you seem to be on the ball
[17:14] <GarethAdams> I can't work out why
[17:14] <MasterShrek> !anyone | peace
[17:14] <ubotu> peace: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:14] <zainerkin> the above was for mastershrek
[17:14] <sz90> hm. Are you trying to burn an iso file system to a dvd? If so, then if you have large files they might not burn.
[17:15] <peace> i cant find my windows partition when im on ubuntu.. i want to copy some files in windows partition :)
[17:15] <MasterShrek> zainerkin no, that guide tells you how to compile it from source, most things in ubuntu you wont need to compile from source as there are already pre-built packages for the programs
[17:15] <vallhalla81>  peace: places/computer/drive youare looking 4
[17:15] <zainerkin> nice followin your above advice now. will keep you posted
[17:15] <waylandbill> peace: if it is not at /windows or another mount point, you'll need to mount it manually.
[17:15] <MasterShrek> peace open a terminal and type: sudo fdisk -l      that should tell you what partition is ntfs, let me know which one and ill help you from there.  please do not paste multiple lines here, if you need to paste a bunch use pastebin
[17:16] <peace> haha fool me.. thanks.. i searched it in mnt.. lost + found folders.. :D haha thanks
[17:16] <Xamusk> sz90, I mean, I have tried many times with many writers to write an iso file, but it appears they use wodim... when I tried to use growisofs, it burned normally
[17:16] <vallhalla81> np
[17:16] <nikitis> Hey guys, i'm stuck in tty1 using tirc to talk to you guys, I'm having a weird issue with my graphics.  When I log on, it asks for username and password in the gnome logon screen, then it just goes black and comes right back.  Any ideas?
[17:17] <MasterShrek> nikitis try creating a new user and loggin in with that user, that will tell us if its a problem with your user's settings, or a bigger problem
[17:17] <harking> anyone else have issues logging in after a fresh install of 8.04?
[17:17] <MasterShrek> harking its still beta, try #ubuntu+1
[17:17] <nikitis> MasterShrek, ok i'll do that.
[17:17] <MasterShrek> :)
[17:17] <nikitis> brb
[17:17] <assarix> the toolbar at the bottom of this screenshot, what is it?
[17:17] <assarix> http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8854/screenshotla3.png
[17:17] <waylandbill> peace: this may be of use:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:17] <harking> MasterShrek: thx
[17:18] <zainerkin> okay so I have done what you have advised sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng   what next
[17:18] <MasterShrek> zainerkin now you can use that guide, or whatever you were using before, just skip the installation steps because you just installed it
[17:18] <nikitis> MasterShrek, Nope same thing with a new user
[17:18] <vallhalla81> assarix: it is awn
[17:18] <vallhalla81> !awn
[17:18] <MasterShrek> assarix awm
[17:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:18] <MasterShrek> awn***
[17:18] <high-freq> zainerkin, goto the aircrack-ng site and read the tuts
[17:18] <cameodemon> any graphics card masters willing to fix my problem? secondary monitor, lcd, 1680x1050 resolution, looks kinda blurry. and its driving me nuts
[17:19] <vallhalla81> !awm
[17:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:19] <sz90> Xamusk, g2g, but look through the options. You might be able to change what K3B uses to burn.
[17:20] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i've unloaded the nvidia drivers completely. (163.09) and gone back to default.  This works but when I try to set 1920x1200 resolution with new install of nvidia drivers.  It starts in low graphics mode.
[17:20] <sz90> Sorry I can't be of more help.
[17:20] <MasterShrek> cameodemon #xorg may help you :) they are probably more on the ball with things like that
[17:20] <zainerkin> okay so if I have installe where is the run shortcut
[17:20] <assarix> okay, thanks
[17:20] <vallhalla81> nikitis: did you download the correct drivers for your card?
[17:20] <assarix> does someone know where I can find the wallpaper of this screnshot?
[17:20] <MasterShrek> nikitis where are you setting this resolution? the nvidia driver i believe has a utility that you can use from X, works pretty good
[17:20] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I never had any such problems before.  One weird thing I did notice though was usplash was trying to load with 1920x1440 and my monitor can't do that.  And I know i didn't set that resolution anywhere
[17:21] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I used nvidia-xconfig.  No go
[17:21] <MasterShrek> weird, how did you install the driver? from the restricted drivers manager?
[17:21] <assarix> http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8854/screenshotla3.png
[17:21] <hyw> waylandbill: I follow the instructions in here to install intellimouse buttons yet it doesnt work :S http://ketsugi.com/panegyrist/howto-intellimouse-explorer-with-ubuntu-dapper/  any hints?
[17:21] <assarix> looking for this wallpaper
[17:21] <vallhalla81> nikitis: from terminal use sudo nvidia-settings
[17:21] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I tried once using Envy, then once manually
[17:21] <hyw> waylandbill: followed
[17:22] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I do not want to use restricted from repositories because it's driver version (100.14)
[17:22] <nikitis> MasterShrek, Way old for World of Warcraft ;)
[17:22] <MasterShrek> nikitis well, envy is bad bad stuff, could have screwed it up good (im not sure what it does ive just heard bad things about it) try running from a terminal: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[17:22] <jshriver> good afternoon everyone :)
[17:22] <yowshi> someone said that ryhtmbox could delete duplicate files anyone know how to make it do this?
[17:22] <waylandbill> hyw: are you running dapper?
[17:23] <nikitis> MasterShrek, weird thing is, it was all working for months, then i rebooted today. and whammo.  The only thing I did was compile a new Wireless driver for my Linksys Wireless NIC
[17:23] <hyw> waylandbill: lol no 7.10
[17:23] <jshriver> Anyone know how Gnome in Ubuntu associates file with programs? I want to change my default video player
[17:23] <hyw> waylandbill: guess this only works for dapper?
[17:23] <MasterShrek> nikitis did you compile or install a new kernel too by chance?
[17:23] <nikitis> MasterShrek, which worked flawlessly, using to talk to you guys atm.
[17:23] <dep> jshriver: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[17:23] <jshriver> thanks
[17:23] <waylandbill> hyw: I don't know
[17:23] <assarix> found it :)
[17:23] <assarix> http://bp2.blogger.com/_W1ueYt1O3xs/Rvo6ymW89ZI/AAAAAAAABSs/KBxydmn0pgs/s1600-h/orange5-1280.jpg
[17:23] <MasterShrek> assarix http://www.ubuntu-art.org/
[17:23] <MasterShrek> oh, ok :)
[17:24] <palomer> I have a txt file I'd like to convert to pdf
[17:24] <palomer> how do I do this?
[17:24] <waylandbill> hyw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[17:24] <kane77> can anyone help me to install postgresql-8.2? When I'm trying to install I get lots of errors
[17:24] <dep> palomer: OpenOffice can export any text document to PDF
[17:24] <hyw> waylandbill: thanks again will check it out
[17:24] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i did however one time manage to get into noraml gdm, without nvidia drivers and it gave me an error like "could not load HAL"
[17:24] <palomer> dep, nice!
[17:25] <jshriver> hrm still loading Totem
[17:25] <jshriver> wanted to use mplayer
[17:25] <jshriver> can you specify what maps to what file extension?
[17:25] <alex__> hi guys. my macbook lcd has a refresh rate of 60Hz. In the nvidia settings it also says 60Hz, but in screen resolution preferences it says 50Hz. How do I change that?
[17:25] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I don't know usually uninstalling nvidia drivers and reinstalling fixes little issues like these, but i'm starting to think it's not the drivers
[17:25] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i did a new compile as well
[17:26] <MasterShrek> nikitis im starting to agree, not sure exactly whats goin on
[17:26] <nikitis> of the nvidia drivers
[17:26] <jacob> if install the beta version of ubuntu, will i be able to upgrade when the stable version is available throuh the beta?
[17:26] <MasterShrek> nikitis that wont matter, if they are installed they are there (they dont actually compile believe it or not)
[17:26] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i'm kind of at a loss.  Don't know what to try next
[17:26] <gregory> jshriver: you can use gconf
[17:26] <MasterShrek> nikitis did you try creating a new user?
[17:26] <jshriver> thanks
[17:26] <MasterShrek> jacob yes
[17:26] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> hello all!
[17:26] <jacob> ok thx
[17:26] <dep> jacob: yes, but it is not necessarily recommended. For more info, ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:26] <MasterShrek> jacob but if you have issues, ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:26] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> anyone fancy giving me some hepp?
[17:26] <jk__> hi everybody, how can I know the charset of an EXT3 partition?
[17:27] <MasterShrek> jacob you can also upgrade to hardy from gutsy
[17:27] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> i have a DC but i need some help to complete the setup
[17:27] <jacob> mastershrek how do i do that
[17:27] <MasterShrek> !upgrade | jacob
[17:27] <ubotu> jacob: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:27] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> does anyone here know anything about SAMBA?
[17:27] <MasterShrek> yes
[17:27] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> ohh
[17:27] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> good
[17:28] <MasterShrek> !anyone | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:28] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:28] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> MasterShrek:  can u help me with adding domain users?
[17:28] <QuickGold> How do I search for a file name in a specific folder from the command line?
[17:28] <MasterShrek> DOMAIN_CONROLLER nope :)
[17:28] <nikitis> exit
[17:28] <nikitis> quit
[17:28] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> help please
[17:28] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC
[17:29] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> i need to add domain users but it wont let me
[17:29] <QuickGold> !ask | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:29] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:29] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: ill tell u what i mean
[17:29] <jk__> any encoding expert??
[17:29] <QuickGold> How do I search for a file name in a specific folder (and all the sub folders) from the command line?
[17:29] <gregory> jshriver: gconfeditor
[17:29] <waylandbill> QuickGold: find is the command you want
[17:29] <dep> QuickGold: find /path/line -name *pieceofname*
[17:29] <jk__> QuickGold: find <dir> -name *jjj
[17:30] <QuickGold> thank you
[17:30] <Gothfunc> hi.  i have an adsl cable modem.  if i plug it into a linksys 10/100 cable dsl wifi router and connect one of the ethernet ports to the uplink port of a gigabit switch, will that mean i have gigabit connections, wireless, and the internet on the same network?
[17:30] <jshriver> hrm command not found
[17:30] <nikitis> MasterShrek sorry got dc'd
[17:30] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: come to private channel ill tell u whats occouring...
[17:30] <T1m0thy> Ever since I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and I open Transmission, a bit afterwards, I can't move my pointer and I have to do a hard reset.
[17:30] <nikitis> MasterShrek, so I don't know where to start
[17:30] <gregory> jshriver: its a seperate package. you might need to instalt it for extra
[17:30] <MasterShrek> nikitis create a new user and try logging in to gdm with it
[17:31] <nikitis> MasterShrek, I did already, didn't work
[17:31] <MasterShrek> oh
[17:31] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: i run the command "net rpc user add<<username>> -U root" and it says "NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"
[17:31] <MasterShrek> nikitis you say when you are using the nvidia driver gdm starts fine, its only when you log it that it crashes right?
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> anyone got any ideas?
[17:32] <MasterShrek> DOMAIN_CONROLLER use sudo maybe
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> :) please someone:)
[17:32] <MasterShrek> !sudo | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:32] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> no i did
[17:32] <MasterShrek> oh
[17:32] <praveer_cool> does anyone know a prefdm equivalent in ubuntu? btw prefdm is an init script which has something to start gdm and X at a specified time
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> well no
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> im not using sudo
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> i switched to root
[17:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> and did it that way
[17:32] <Nivek_Ogre> QUOTE PASS 11460
[17:32] <nikitis> MasterShrek, with nvidia driver in use, just after compile and nvidia-xconfig is working.  GDM logon comes up, then I log in with users, and it goes black and restarts like gdm just restarted or something.
[17:33] <MasterShrek> nikitis then its not a problem with your nvidia drivers, because gdm actually does start
[17:33] <T1m0thy> !lockups
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lockups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:33] <jpatrick> Nivek_Ogre: change password fast
[17:33] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> its all worked perfectly until now, its just this last step i need to complete so i can allow people to join the domain..:)
[17:33] <jpatrick> !enter | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:33] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:33] <gregory> jshriver: the command then is gconf-editor
[17:33] <MasterShrek> nikitis log in with your user and type startx, it should give you some more info on where we can go with this
[17:33] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !enter jpatrick
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter jpatrick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !enter | jpatrick
[17:34] <ubotu> jpatrick: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:34] <msingh> this is the hardest question you'll ever hear
[17:34] <msingh> but is there a good place to specify a command to run on startup?
[17:34] <nikitis> anyone there?
[17:34] <MasterShrek> why do people feel it nessicarry to do that? lol i mean i can understand not knowing how the bot works, but why do the type it back? lol
[17:35] <praveer_cool> msingh: init scripts
[17:35] <MasterShrek> msingh depends on when you want it to start
[17:35] <yowshi> !rythmbox
[17:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rythmbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:35] <msingh> praveer_cool, thanks for not being vague
[17:35] <themime> i just installed (what was supposedly ubuntu server 7.1), doesn't have sshd, apache...really any server stuff. anyway, regardless, im trying to install the server stuff i need, and this is my first time using ubuntu.  i installed apache using synaptic package manager, and i thought i also installed phpBB2, but i can't find it anywhere.  my past experience with phpBB2 was a tar, untaring in the appropriate folder, and configuring throu
[17:35] <msingh> master_o1_master, just before gdm/slim
[17:35] <praveer_cool> msingh: i have been trying to get my answer since half an hour on the same topic :)
[17:35] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> is anyone actually going to listen to me?
[17:35] <gregory> themime: ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:35] <nikitis> MasterShrek, ok i'll try startx
[17:36] <MasterShrek> msingh i think /etc/rc.local is what you are looking for
[17:36] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !enter | FloodBot2
[17:36] <ubotu> FloodBot2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:36] <msingh> praveer_cool, unix is so retarded that im starting to think there is no such place
[17:36] <themime> ah ok thanks, ill do that.  is there a way i can confirmed i did install the server version though?
[17:36] <MasterShrek> DOMAIN_CONROLLER stop doing that please
[17:36] <dep> themime: the config files are in /etc/apache, and the web stuff is set to /var/www by default
[17:36] <H4nta> xsane won't detect my scanner except when run as root. how do i make the device accessible by user?
[17:36] <T1m0thy> I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and now when I open Transmission, my pointer freezes up after a bit, and I have to do a hard reset.
[17:36] <Gnea> !ask | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:36] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> MasterShrek: sorry, im just trying to get people to see what im trying to ask
[17:36] <praveer_cool> msingh: /etc/rc*.d/
[17:36] <praveer_cool> msingh: on /etc/rc.local
[17:36] <praveer_cool> or*
[17:37] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> MasterShrek: the thing is i dont think anyone can actually see my question, which is why they arent answering
[17:37] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:37] <ArmedKing> !ask | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[17:37] <njenkins> hey all
[17:37] <nikitis> MasterShrek, says Caught Signal 11.  Server aborting
[17:37] <MasterShrek> DOMAIN_CONROLLER people see what you are asking, if they know the answer they would tell you, just be patient and ask ever few minutes or so, youll get an answer
[17:37] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> MasterShrek: ok thx ill try that
[17:37] <jk__> EXT3 partitions store the filenames in UTF8 by default??
[17:37] <jshriver> thanks that worked.. brb
[17:37] <nikitis> It did start up like it was going to work, then closes
[17:37] <MasterShrek> jk__ sounds right to me...not 100% sure tho
[17:38] <MasterShrek> nikitis did it give you any errors on the command line?
[17:38] <federico> in ubuntu 8.04 beta, when i press the <tab> key on a terminal, it doesn't autocomplete the commands... any ideas of how can I activate this function?
[17:38] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> trying to create domain users, but ubuntu wont let me, please help
[17:38] <MasterShrek> federico try #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <jk__> anyway to know which encoding is currently using?
[17:38] <federico> MasterShrek: ok, thankyou!
[17:38] <njenkins> small question I try to run add users and it says unable to perform please contact your system adminstrator. What's that all about?
[17:38] <acke_n> hey anybody installed ubuntu on his ps3?
[17:38] <nikitis> njenkins are you doing it as root?
[17:38] <bercik> PL
[17:39] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: you don't have to say "please help", it's pretty obvious - now, domain users for what, exactly? a website? samba?
[17:39] <jk__> njenkins: tried with sudo??
[17:39] <MasterShrek> njenkins are you using sudo?
[17:39] <njenkins> yes with sudo
[17:39] <njenkins> I can't log in as root so I don't know what's going on...
[17:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: they are for domain logons in samba,
[17:39] <darkscript> sudo apt-get install windows-powershell doesn't work... =(
[17:39] <gregory> njenkins: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[17:39] <sam_> how do i take a screenshot via command line (from wmii window manager)
[17:39] <sam_> or fluxbox
[17:39] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: have you asked in #samba yet?
[17:39] <nikitis> njenkins: or sudo su
[17:40] <njenkins> ok will do that I think I was messing around with my permissions trying to remove my njenkins from root and I think I fubared it up
[17:40] <MasterShrek> !info windows-powershell | darkscript
[17:40] <ubotu> darkscript: Package windows-powershell does not exist in gutsy
[17:40] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: no, is there a samba IRC??
[17:40] <nikitis> MasterShrek: I received a "Caught Signal 11. Server Aborting." Error
[17:40] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: yes.
[17:40] <T1m0thy> sam_: http://linux.die.net/man/1/scrot
[17:40] <MasterShrek> DOMAIN_CONROLLER #samba would be my guess
[17:40] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: LOL ty, i didnt know #samba even existed
[17:40] <jpatrick> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: /msg ChanServ list *samba*
[17:40] <bercik> widze że niema nikogo z polski
[17:40] <themime> is there a way to confirm i installed the server version of ubuntu?
[17:41] <njenkins> what are the command line instructions for users?
[17:41] <sam_> T1mOthy: is that in apt-get or do i install from source
[17:41] <njenkins> adding or editing?
[17:41] <gregory> bercik: try #ubuntu-pl
[17:41] <dep> njenkins: adduser
[17:41] <T1m0thy> sam_: I'm pretty sure it's in the apt repo.
[17:41] <sam_> T1mOthy: thanks
[17:41] <T1m0thy> sam_: No problem. ^^
[17:41] <MasterShrek> nikitis can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log for me?
[17:41] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: yw, most large programs have their own support channel... #apache, #php, #samba, #perl... i could go on but you get the picture :)
[17:41] <T1m0thy> I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and now when I open Transmission, my pointer freezes up after a bit, and I have to do a hard reset.
[17:42] <nikitis> njenkins: $ useradd -d /home/newuserhere -m --comment="coolest guy ever"
[17:42] <nikitis> MasterShrek, not sure, i'm in terminal.
[17:42] <gregory> bercik: on your keyboard type: /join #ubuntu-pl
[17:43] <jshriver> bbiab thank you all
[17:43] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: yea thanks, although i think everybody in #samba is afk at the moment
[17:43] <MasterShrek> nikitis sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:43] <MasterShrek> nikitis then run: pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:43] <christophe> #ubuntu-fr
[17:43] <waylandbill> nikitis: I'm sure adduser would be a little friendlier than useradd unless it's going to be used in a script.
[17:43] <MasterShrek> christophe put /j before that :)
[17:44] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> christophe: /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:44] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: give them time, they will respond
[17:44] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: there is absolutely NO chat at all, which is why i think there afk
[17:44] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: try it, goto #samba-technical
[17:45] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: and it's just like here - just ask the question and give as much detail as you can... and wait
[17:45] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: i know how it is there ;)
[17:45] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: ok, so u think there not afk, just idle status?
[17:46] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: perhaps u even know the answer to my question
[17:46] <FlezZ> Hello
[17:46] <MasterShrek> !hi | FlezZ
[17:46] <ubotu> FlezZ: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:46] <FlezZ> Can someone help me set up VDR under Ubuntu?
[17:46] <MasterShrek> whats vdr?
[17:46] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: doesn't matter. they'll answer when they can. and no, i don't know, haven't setup an ADS with samba yet.
[17:46] <FlezZ> Video Disk Recorder
[17:46] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> MasterShrek: can i quickly try something please
[17:47] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: the users are multitasking probably.
[17:47] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: ok
[17:47] <rym> Could anyone help me with configuring freenx ?
[17:47] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: do you know?
[17:47] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> YAY! i got an answer
[17:48] <Gnea> see? :)
[17:48] <waylandbill> I'm sorry. I don't know the answer to your question
[17:48] <waylandbill> !anyone | rym
[17:48] <ubotu> rym: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:48] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> no wait
[17:48] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: btw, the world runs on patience.
[17:48] <KalEl> can i use vinagre to connect to a windows laptop using RDP?
[17:48] <TheBokster> @quickgold just time find -name filename to find in the current folder and beyond.
[17:49] <rym> I just said that cause this isnt really #nx ;p
[17:49] <TheBokster> otherwise type locate filename to find on your complete system
[17:49] <rym> but; i set up the freenx server, which is working perfectly
[17:49] <xomp> I have FINALLY found a wiki doc that has the exact hardware I have for my wireless card \o/ Only problem is, I followed the instructions verbatim and I still get no love with this... Can someone help? The wiki doc I followed was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200
[17:49] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: i didnt get an answer to my question, i just got told that the technical channel is actually the developers channel and visa versa
[17:49] <rym> when i use the client in ubuntu to connect to my server everything works fine, no problem
[17:49] <TheBokster> oops wrong room
[17:49] <rym> but when i try to connect from a windows box on the network it says 'failed to initialize display service'
[17:49] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: which is why i referred you to #samba in the first place, not #samba-technical
[17:50] <waylandbill> KalEl: RDP and VNC are different protocols. A package that uses rdesktop will do.
[17:50] <MagicFab> HI - if anyone is interested in fingerprint readers in Ubuntu, see: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fingerprint_authentication_in_Ubuntu
[17:50] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i apologize doesn't seem to be working.  Says Traceback(most recent calls) and is crashing
[17:50] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Gnea: i know, they reffered me to #samba-technical, it said at the topic that #samba was a developers channel and not a technical channel
[17:50] <co0lingFir3> can some1 explain me how i encrypt a folder? thanks
[17:50] <waylandbill> KalEl: gnome-rdp comes to mind.
[17:51] <Gnea> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: weird, they must've just changed that
[17:51] <KalEl> waylandbill, thanks! i thought vinagre was the one, but i'll try gnome-rdp
[17:52] <waylandbill> rym: you may try contacting freenx developers. Seems like a question for them.
[17:52] <rym> Hmkay
[17:52] <rym> im gonna check if it's a key issue, if not ill do that
[17:52] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !enter | ubotu
[17:52] <ubotu> ubotu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:52] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> sorry i just had to try that to see if i could
[17:52] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> sry for that
[17:53] <marlun> I've created a nfs share on my server computer and run exportfs -a but I still can't see it from this computer when I go to Network in Nautilus. Do I need to do something else?
[17:53] <xomp> I have FINALLY found a wiki doc that has the exact hardware I have for my wireless card \o/ Only problem is, I followed the instructions verbatim and I still get no love with this... Can someone help? The wiki doc I followed was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200
[17:54] <debrac> Hello
[17:54] <danand> poor old xomp :(
[17:54] <alpha12345> hi all,
[17:54] <alpha12345> i am in a sticky situation! my mac os x mini was working fine. i decided i would like to investigate ubuntu.
[17:54] <alpha12345> so i downloaded the ubuntu live cd iso and burned it onto a disk. next thing, i go to system preferences in mac os x and change the startup disk to be the ubuntu live cd. then i restarted my mac. the sytem booted straight into ubuntu via the live cd. so now i would like to get rid of ubuntu and stay with mac os x. i remove the ubuntu live cd and restart, hoping that it will boot directly back into mac os x... but it does'nt.
[17:54] <alpha12345> now i have the predicament, where nothing else works on my mac except the ubuntu live cd! i tried all the usual apple cmd options... tried to get at the open firmware... tried to boot from the leopard disk... all with no success. it does'nt recognise anything else.
[17:54] <debrac> Is it possible to see how PHP is compiled in the default package?
[17:54] <alpha12345> also, when i do boot from the ubuntu live cd, the ubuntu welcome screen starts with a number of options, however i can not select any...
[17:54] <FloodBot2> alpha12345: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <alpha12345> unfortnately i have tried that. but it does not recognise any of the usual cmd+opt commands. infact it does'nt recognise anything except the ubuntu live cd. without the cd it says 'grub hard disk error'. i tried the os x disk without any look. i cant access the firewire at all.
[17:54] <Madmuhfuh> ati x1600 video. cant get ubuntu to like it. any ideas? gone thru everything in the faqs, nothing worked
[17:54] <alpha12345> even if i wanted too reinstall os x from scratch... i cant... because it does not recognise it!! when the mac boots i never see any sign of os x... no apple... no nothing... if i start using the cmd+opt+o+f it does nothing. like as if when i changed the startup disk initially in mac os x, after reboot, it continues to look for the ubuntu live cd, disregarding everything else
[17:54] <hspaans> marlun: sudo mount <server>:<path> <path/to/mount/to>
[17:55] <nikitis> MasterShrek, i apologize doesn't seem to be working.  Says Traceback(most recent calls) and is crashing the error stats "Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+x0x81)[0x80c95d1] 1: [0xffffe420] \n Caught Signal 11.  Server aborting"+
[17:55] <debrac> Like what options it has
[17:55] <peleg> once in a while my music stops working, and I have no sound at all; trying to operate mplayer (from terminal) gives many messages like "alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" and "alsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy" and "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.". restarting the computer solves the problem. any ideas?
[17:55] <xomp> lol, must be some sort of lag here... just sudden channel response all in one!
[17:55] <nikitis> MasterShrek, the pastebin program crashes
[17:56] <waylandbill> marlun: I'm not positive, but don't you need to use zeroconf to announce the nfs share?
[17:57] <KalEl> waylandbill, i think this might work: Internet -> Terminal Server Client?
[17:57] <xomp> danand, I'm about a hair away from just putting XP back on this laptop lol. My patience has worn thin, very thin with this >:( I think a total of 3 weeks trying to get one piece of hardware is asking too much of a person. And I mean I have worked like a devil dog everyday to get this thing working.. It's just ridiculous to say the least :(
[17:57] <KalEl> my god! it's working!
[17:57] <waylandbill> KalEl: yes. That will work.
[17:57] <KalEl> wow this is amazing! thanks :)
[17:58] <hspaans> waylandbill: mdns could do that is there was support
[17:58] <marlun> waylandbill: no idea, will look into it. =)
[17:58] <alpha12345> does anybody no how i can regain control of my mac????.... it is not responding to anything.... after i started ubuntu live cd.
[17:58] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> alpha12345: does it not respond only to ubuntu? or to mac aswell?
[17:58] <waylandbill> hspaans: I thought zeroconf was an mDNS implementation.
[17:58] <alpha12345> i can only run the live ubuntu cd?
[17:58] <rwycuff> xomp:any luck yet
[17:59] <T1m0thy> I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and now when I open Transmission, my pointer freezes up after a bit, and I have to do a hard reset.
[17:59] <xomp> rwycuff, nope, lots of seemingly good info, but no real working way to do it :(
[17:59] <alpha12345> it dosent recognise anything else
[17:59] <waylandbill> alpha12345: It sounds like a question for os x gurus
[17:59] <hspaans> waylandbill: zeroconf is just a name for mdns/ip-detection/etc
[17:59] <xomp> rwycuff, I finally found a wikidoc that has my wifi adapter specifically and tells how to compile driver and firmware for it, did all that and it still no worky worky :( The doc was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200
[18:00] <PhoenixP3K> What is you guys opinion between upgrading to 8.04 or a fresh install
[18:00] <rwycuff> xomp:hmm wish i could help more but been swampped and finally got my linux email working with active directory
[18:00] <LjL-Temp> PhoenixP3K: right now - doing neither thing, since it's not released
[18:00] <xomp> rwycuff, awesome!! Glad to hear!
[18:00] <MasterScript> hi
[18:00] <waylandbill> hspaans: synonymous then.
[18:00] <MasterScript> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60427/ <--- anyone know?
[18:00] <hspaans> waylandbill: zeroconf is going to be really interesting with ipv6
[18:01] <PhoenixP3K> LjL-Temp: I know it's not out yet, but this situation comes twice a year. And it's the first time I have to make a choice on it
[18:01] <danand> xomp - just took a look at that... you didn't get any joy?
[18:01] <waylandbill> !b-e | MasterScript
[18:01] <ubotu> MasterScript: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:01] <rwycuff> xomp:did you follow that wiki doc
[18:01] <LjL-Temp> !build-essential | master_o1_master
[18:01] <ubotu> master_o1_master: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:01] <xomp> danand, nope, I did everything it said to do and rebooted, pressed Fn+F2 to turn on the adapter and no light shined like it usually does in windows.
[18:02] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, followed it verbatim hah
[18:02] <T1m0thy> I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and now when I open Transmission, my pointer freezes up after a bit, and I have to do a hard reset.
[18:02] <LjL-Temp> PhoenixP3K, in the past i have to admit upgrades have given problems. unless you used nasty third party repositories, though, this time it should hopefully be smooth. besides, *trying* an upgrade will only result in spending some more time, at worst
[18:02] <MasterScript> tq
[18:02] <rwycuff> xomp:so you have compiled a driver from source for this thing
[18:03] <xomp> rwycuff, yes sir, and modprobed it into the something according to that doc lol
[18:03] <danand> xomp - you using roaming mode still?
[18:03] <xomp> danand, I was, but have disabled roaming too to test and it didn't have any effect :(
[18:03] <mad_goldfish> MasterScript, update && upgrade worked thanks, it's using a UK mirror now.
[18:04] <xomp> danand, I have roaming disabled for wlan0 and DHCP set for it right now
[18:04] <peace> hello.. i tried to restore grub..and it doesnt work!.. i restared pc and it load ubuntu..with no choice to select windows xp..any help?
[18:04] <xomp> danand, I also have it selected (by way of check mark near it's name?)
[18:04] <PhoenixP3K> LjL-Temp, thanks for the advice :-)
[18:04] <rwycuff> xomp:put the module name into /etc/modules and reboot and see what happens
[18:05] <zainerkin> Does anyone know where I can get a Atheros driver chipset for Netgear WAG511 on a Ubuntu
[18:05] <peace> i did... sudo grub...root (hd0,0)...setup (hd0)... and it writes..sucess..done..and so on..  i restart pc..and no windows to select..
[18:05] <xomp> rwycuff, I did that already :P it's the last line of my /etc/modules, I put orinoco_usb there like the doc said
[18:05] <hdevalence> I fI have a pdf file and I put it on filebin, and someone downloads it, will they see the username of the owner?
[18:06] <hdevalence> like in ls -l
[18:06] <zainerkin> Does anyone know where I can get a Atheros driver chipset for Netgear WAG511 on a Ubuntu
[18:06] <hspaans> peace: you need to create an entry to select this is only to install grub on the disk
[18:06] <waylandbill> peace: add an entry to menu.lst for windows using the chainloader command
[18:06] <spartan7> Anyway of creating a list of ish that you have already installed so when you do a reinstall you can just cut and paste?
[18:06] <rwycuff> xomp:wow only thing left to trouble shoot is find grep command nad see if its even reading the mac address
[18:06] <xomp> rwycuff, the things I have in my /etc/modules are "fuse", "lp" and "orinoco_usb"
[18:06] <zcat[1]> hdevalence: no.. but it may still be in the pdf's metadata
[18:06] <peace> em..i need to do what??? :D i have no idea what you suggested guys.. :|
[18:06] <jpab> alguem pode me ajudar a instalar o compiz?
[18:06] <drarem> which mag should i subscribe to, linux mag or linux journal
[18:06] <drarem> or is there another
[18:07] <zcat[1]> hdevalence: not your login, but your name if you made the pdf in OOo and your name is in OOo
[18:07] <rwycuff> xomp: replace fuse and lp with just loop then your driver and reboot
[18:07] <xomp> rwycuff, would you happen to know that grep command? hehe I'm a cli tard :P
[18:07] <xomp> rwycuff, ok
[18:07] <zainerkin> Does anyone know where I can get a Atheros driver chipset for Netgear WAG511 on a Ubuntu
[18:07] <gajo> hello, can anyone tell me if it's possible to get fraps working using wine, or does there exist any other similar program to fraps that actually works on linux?
[18:07] <rwycuff> xomp:ha i dont know it off the top of my head but ill find it in a min trying to wrk one more thing out in ads
[18:07] <hdevalence> zcat[1]: the pdf is made by LaTeX
[18:08] <xomp> rwycuff, ok, I now have "loop" and "orinoco_usb" in my /etc/modules, is that correct?
[18:08] <zcat[1]> hdevalence: if you upload it to a file site, none of the owner or permissions will be preserved
[18:08] <peace> waylandbill what to do ??? can you explain step by step? :)
[18:08] <hdevalence> thanks
[18:09] <theunixgeek> Where can I download all the docs at http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/, preferably in a PDF?
[18:10] <MasterScript> how to add host? 192.168.138.128 to mydomain.net
[18:10] <rwycuff> xomp:yes
[18:10] <waylandbill> peace: could you pastebin the output of 'sfdisk -l' ?
[18:10] <xomp> rwycuff, okey doke, I'm gonna reboot now. Thanks for the help :)
[18:11] <rwycuff> xomp: no problem
[18:11] <T1m0thy> I've upgraded to the latest kernel available on 7.10, and now when I open Transmission, my pointer freezes up after a bit, and I have to do a hard reset.
[18:11] <rwycuff> maybe not a good idea to ask here but any one know of good Microsoft channel
[18:12] <waylandbill> rwycuff: maybe #windows, I assume that's what you mean unless you want to talk about the company.
[18:12] <lordleemo> rwycuff: #windows
[18:13] <pieisgood4589> hi?
[18:13] <pieisgood4589> the IRC seems quiter than usual...
[18:13] <rwycuff> thanks alot no dont wanna talk about the company got nothing good to say about them
[18:13] <jimmygoon> How "bad" is ndiswrapper?
[18:13] <hdevalence> also, is there a way to concetenate pdf files?
[18:13] <rwycuff> i actually need little help with ads
[18:14] <peace> the command line doesnt work waylandbill... sfdisk - intel.. or Linux.. ?  sfdisk - Linux..shows many text... as a help?
[18:14] <jimmygoon> hdevalence, pdftk or mbtpdfasm
[18:14] <pieisgood4589> anyone here?
[18:14] <waylandbill> jimmygoon: bad morally? :-)  It's functional but you have to supply your own windows driver.
[18:14] <hdevalence> thanks
[18:14] <waylandbill> peace: from a terminal 'sfdisk -l'
[18:15] <pcvowd> hi, is there a channel for ubuntu customisation? (remastering)
[18:15] <jimmygoon> waylandbill, I meant functionality only... I always hear people complain. I know its hackish and takes more work but in the end .... if it works....
[18:15] <pieisgood4589> anyone know the IRC of the ubuntu forums beginners group?
[18:15] <waylandbill> jimmygoon: It's very useful if your nic doesn't have a kernel module.
[18:16] <peace> it simply shows many "useful options"  its a big text.. i cant paste it here.
[18:16] <jimmygoon> pieisgood4589, is there one specifically? this is the help irc if you need help
[18:16] <jimmygoon> !pastebin | peace
[18:16] <ubotu> peace: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:16] <dmz> ugh, this is frustrating. it seems that the ubuntu compiled xorg-xservers do not ignore dpms and even if i'm not using a window manager (ie xinit X directly from console w/1 single app running, no screen saver or power mgmt tools) it still blanks the screen; anyone have any suggestions other than building X myself?
[18:17] <peace> damn.. i hate quanta!!!!! it always opens url in quanta..not in web browser..
[18:17] <rwycuff> wow windows channel ignores me as much as the gentoo chanels does
[18:17] <pieisgood4589> Haha
[18:17] <waylandbill> peace: usually if it shows the usage options, something wasn't right. Maybe because it needs sudo.. Try 'sudo sfdisk -l'  That's an L, not a number 1
[18:18] <prestar> how can i find a specific directory like qt4 ?
[18:18] <budgester> prestar, try locate qt4
[18:18] <danand> prestar - locate qt4
[18:18] <Gary_inNYC> a very odd thing just occurred.  my computer just logged me out for no reason.  and last night my cpu was 100% constant after a recent sql update until i rebooted.
[18:18] <pieisgood4589> Anyone know how to set an away message in IRC?
[18:18] <prestar> ok, thx
[18:18] <waylandbill> prestar: if you don't mind a terminal you can use locate
[18:18] <LjL-Temp> pieisgood4589: /away message
[18:18] <jimmygoon> peace, right click the file go to properties go to "Open with" and change what it opens with. problem solved
[18:18] <budgester> pieisgood4589, which irc client
[18:19] <peace> okay http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60428/
[18:19] <jimmygoon> that looks like a drive with some problems ;(
[18:19] <tiax> is there a way to hide partitions from "places", both in nautilus sidebar and gnome file chooser dialogs? My new dell came with a few maintenance partitions and I don't need to see those everywhere
[18:19] <jimmygoon> tiax, I can tell you how to hide all mounted partitions :/
[18:19] <marlun> Can you make a nfs share only available to a specific user?
[18:20] <jimmygoon> tiax, well, I take that back, that only hides them from the desktop
[18:20] <nikitis> MasterShrek, Hey, i'm in Gnome now.  I reinstalled xserver-xorg but i haven't restarted since i reinstalled it
[18:20] <jimmygoon> tiax, you can edit /etc/fstab and remove the recovrey partition so ubuntu just doesn't mount it
[18:20] <tiax> jimmygoon: those partitions didn't come with mountpoints and fstab entries in the first place
[18:20] <nikitis> MasterShrek, Werid thing is, nautilus crashed instantly.  so i started it manually
[18:21] <jimmygoon> tiax, oh. sorry. I don't know then
[18:21] <waylandbill> peace: make a new entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst with a root of hd(0,1) and chainloader +1
[18:21] <hyw> Can anyone help me install Intellimouse, I followed this link and now scrolling wouldnt though it used to work just fine not even backward forward buttons :S https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[18:21] <waylandbill> peace: if you pastebin that file, I can show you how it would look
[18:22] <mkjackson> hello room, I received a messages saying that my name is unregistered, is there a place where I can?  having some difficulty finding it online
[18:22] <peace> there is such things already..hmmm http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60429/
[18:23] <computer13137> !pastebin
[18:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:23] <computer13137> OK, I'm trying to compile something.
[18:24] <recon69> anyone got knowage of ndistwrapper, trying to wrap a rt61 wireless driver but get an error when i use "sudo ndiswrapper -i rt61" error "Installing ra61
[18:24] <recon69> couldn't copy /home/mec/drvers/edimax-EW-7128G/Windowsx64/ra61.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[18:24] <waylandbill> peace: please post the entire file contents. thanks
[18:24] <recon69> sorry about the paste
[18:24] <computer13137> It errors... so I'm trying to build a deb file using dpkg.  I am getting an error and I'm not sure how to proceed.  Please advise. :)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60430/
[18:24] <peace> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60431/
[18:24] <g3istie>  <g3istie> ubuntu question: i just finnished installing it, and i get a GRUB Hard Disk Error during boot up, just after "Veryfing DMI Pool..."
[18:24] <g3istie> [19:46] <g3istie> i installed it on a relativly old HDD, only problem it gave me during install was that it didnt delete the language packages or something
[18:25] <g3istie> version 7.1
[18:25] <marlun> If I've got a server which has some music/movies etc, whats the best way to make it accessable from my laptop? NSF? openssh-server? ...?
[18:25] <LjL-Temp> computer13137: i think that dependencies list is missing a comma
[18:25] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: OK... which file is the dependencies list?
[18:26] <mkjackson> hello room, I was wondering where I could go to get my name registered...
[18:26] <bluefox83> marlun, i use nfs, it works really well
[18:26] <LjL-Temp> computer13137: something in the control tar...
[18:26] <marlun> bluefox83: but how do you protect it so only you can access it?
[18:26] <waylandbill> peace: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60432/
[18:26] <Seveas> !register | mkjackson
[18:26] <ubotu> mkjackson: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:27] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: What's a control tar? :|
[18:27] <peace> thanks..i hope it works..
[18:27] <peace> thanks :)
[18:27] <LjL-Temp> computer13137, a .deb file is an "ar" archive containing two ".tar.gz", one called control.tar.gz and the other data.tar.gz iirc
[18:28] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: I am trying to build a deb file from source.  I don't have a deb file yet.
[18:28] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: I should note I am following the instructions in the readme exactly... so I highly doubt it's the program's fault, they would have tested it...
[18:28] <LjL-Temp> computer13137, just grep for "libssl-dev" in the directory you are
[18:29] <LjL-Temp> computer13137: then what, a bug in APT? :)
[18:29] <hyw> why is it too complicated to install things in ubuntu
[18:29] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: Dunno. :P  I'll run the grep command now.
[18:29] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> hyw: it isn...
[18:29] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> hyw: if you find command line hard why not try synaptic package manager
[18:30] <g3istie> could someone please help me with my above mentioned question?
[18:30] <poison> hmm
[18:30] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> g3istie; what was it
[18:30] <poison> I need to download an html site, (preferably via a shell) how can I do that?
[18:30] <g3istie>  <g3istie> ubuntu question: i just finnished installing it, and i get a GRUB Hard Disk Error during boot up, just after "Veryfing DMI Pool..."
[18:30] <g3istie> [19:46] <g3istie> i installed it on a relativly old HDD, only problem it gave me during install was that it didnt delete the language packages or something
[18:30] <Robstafarian> Experienced Linux user in need of help: my Gusty amd64 install suddenly no longer boots
[18:30] <hyw> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: but not everything is in synaptic package manager?
[18:30] <poison> it's a single .html file
[18:30] <g3istie> ubuntu version 7.1
[18:30] <gregory> poison: wget www.cia.gov/index.html
[18:30] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: I ran "grep libssl-dev" and nothing is happening... no CPU or hard drive usage... but it's not giving me a terminal input symbol yet either. :P
[18:31] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> hyw: true, but then anything that isnt there you can google for help with..
[18:31] <waylandbill> hyw: I thought it was easier not having to work to get money to drive to the store and buy the software. :)
[18:31] <Robstafarian> Google hasn't shed any light on the problem
[18:31] <LjL-Temp> compbrain: "grep -R libssl-dev *"
[18:31] <peace> eh..it doesnt work.. i forgot a person whoom i was talking..
[18:32] <rockcityvi> Hi everyone
[18:32] <waylandbill> hyw: what task are you trying to perform. Maybe someone can recommend software to use.
[18:32] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60433/
[18:32] <poison> gregory: tried that and get this error: "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name."
[18:32] <Christoz> Wraia pramata...krima exasa to shmerino
[18:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> im having problems creating samba users, does anyone have any ideas??
[18:32] <peace> i checked..system/admi../partition editor... i can flag the windows partition..but i fear then ubuntu wont load...
[18:32] <ijn> hi all
[18:32] <hyw> waylandbill: lol
[18:32] <waylandbill> peace: flag the windows partition?
[18:32] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER>  im having problems creating samba users, does anyone have any ideas??
[18:32] <gregory> poison: what is the url you are trying to fetch?
[18:33] <ijn> no wireless (broadcom chipset 4328)on dell 6400
[18:33] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER>  im having problems creating samba users, does anyone have any ideas??
[18:33] <poison> gregory: http://www.metal-archives.com/browseC.php?c=177
[18:33] <hyw> waylandbill: trying to get back forward buttons to work
[18:33] <rockcityvi> I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen.  Any suggestions?
[18:33] <ijn> ubuntu beta 8.04
[18:33] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60433/
[18:33] <peace> in gparted.. i can flag it..and select..to boot it... but i fear the ubuntu wont load again..and the grub is still not working..it load ubuntu right now..
[18:33] <gregory> poison: are you behind a proxy?
[18:33] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER>  im having problems creating samba users, does anyone have any ideas??
[18:33] <poison> not that I know of
[18:33] <LjL-Temp> computer13137: so it's in debian/control
[18:33] <ijn> can anyone help with that?
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> how do i upgrade my bios???its very buggy now
[18:33] <dward526> Domain, add a user, then sudo smbpasswd -a <user>
[18:34] <Robstafarian> Boot hangs on "Loading Manual Drivers." The only clues I have are "[udevd-event] /sbin/modprobe: abnormal exit" and some output indicating my root partition is mounted read only (which contradicts fstab)
[18:34] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: So want the contents of that file?
[18:34] <dny> I keep getting this error:  "An error occurred 'murrine'"  wtf ddoes that mean? :X
[18:34] <waylandbill> peace: did it give a menu of choices, did it show Windows, did it give an error? Please explain 'not working'
[18:34] <computer13137> LjL-Temp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60434/
[18:34] <gregory> poison: url works here
[18:34] <poison> I can open it in firefox etc
[18:34] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> dward526: i run the command for adding samba users but ubuntu says "NT-ACCESS-DENIED":(
[18:35] <peace> it was ashort time.. grub 1.5...then it was like a 'errorous green fat line" above monitor.. and then ubuntu was loading..
[18:35] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> dward: domain users* not samba users
[18:35] <dward526> Domain, is your smb.conf standard
[18:35] <BlackChaos> hey i just opened up firefox and i went 2 this website and i couldnt see any text but when i couriously highlighted the whole page i saw the text y is this is this a bug in firefox
[18:35] <computer13137> LjL-Temp:
[18:35] <rockcityvi> I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen.  Any suggestions?
[18:35] <hyw> waylandbill: followed this link and now scrolling wouldnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons#head-9146e8615679ecc34ebbc82f2fcb8b50a7799b61
[18:35] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> dward526: can we go to a seperate chat for this, cos its kinda hard to explain here
[18:36] <vja> good day! I have installed ubuntu 7.10 at my notebook (acer aspire 7520G), and after reboot eth interface increment number, eg right now I have eth10 interface
[18:36] <rockcityvi> Also, when booting my bios is acting funny and I have to click "enter" a few times
[18:36] <lordleemo> its amazing how many clones bots and off line peeps are in this room
[18:36] <MasterScript> how to add host? 192.168.138.128 to mydomain.net
[18:36] <peace> i look at windows partition..and its not mounted..could this be a problem? waylandbill
[18:36] <rockcityvi> I also have win xp installed
[18:36] <Howler9443> #zftalk
[18:36] <Howler9443> Hello
[18:36] <n1k93> hi there. aside from ubuntu, what is your favourite distro? i wanna try a new one
[18:36] <Seveas> !poll | n1k93
[18:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:36] <Seveas> wtf...
[18:37] <LjL-Temp> Seveas: !best... although i thought i had aliased it
[18:37] <Howler9443> n1k93, I prefer apt based distros. I like Mint
[18:37] <waylandbill> peace: no. there's some other issue that I don't know about. not familiar with your error.
[18:37] <arvind_khadri> how do i upgrade my bios???its very buggy now
[18:37] <waylandbill> n1k93: kubuntu
[18:37] <Robstafarian> arvind_khadri: see you motherboard manufacturer's website for instructions
[18:38] <arvind_khadri> unop_, how do i upgrade bios
[18:38] <Seveas> arvind_khadri, this is an ubuntu support channel, not your motherbord manufacturers support line
[18:38] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> im having problems adding samba domain users, can someone help please??
[18:38] <Seveas> !repeat | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[18:38] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:38] <jnkq> try a lot,but back to ubuntu ..
[18:38] <arke> greetings. :)
[18:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> Seveas: im feeling ignored because i have been here for several hours trying to get help...
[18:39] <jnkq> if you wanna try others ,just use VirtualBox to try them.
[18:39] <Robstafarian> Seveas: Will you help me with my problem? You seem to be the only person not involved in something already
[18:39] <hellues> a quenstion
[18:39] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: That sounds more of a samba question. You may want to ask on #samba
[18:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> i did
[18:39] <mysterycool> hey
[18:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> nobody there know
[18:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> knows*
[18:39] <hellues> can i protect my files
[18:39] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: i asked samba but nobody there knows the answer
[18:39] <hellues> if i change to my os from debian to ubuntu
[18:40]  * rockcityvi I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen. Any suggestions? Also, when the bios is loading, I have to hit "return" a few times to make it work and I have XP installed as well.
[18:40] <hellues> i wonna protect my home partition
[18:40] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: try samba forums or a samba mailing list.
[18:40] <mysterycool> hey
[18:40] <vja> it is zoo :)
[18:40] <mysterycool> ok so I downloaded vim but I can't actually ue it :S
[18:40] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: how will a mailing list help? wont i just get loads of bulk?>
[18:40] <mysterycool> i mean i can't even find it :s
[18:40] <gregory> mysterycool: vi
[18:41] <mysterycool> ?
[18:41] <hellues> hmm
[18:41] <mysterycool> gregory: ?
[18:41] <hellues> any answr
[18:41] <lordleemo> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: you seem to be an inteligent person why havent you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[18:41] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: because you may find someone with an answer?
[18:41] <hellues> if i pass to ubuntu from debian
[18:41] <hellues> can i protect my home partition
[18:41] <gregory> mysterycool: open console and type vi enter
[18:41] <mkjackson> nice... registration complete, thx room of all knowing stuff and such
[18:41] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> lordleemo: because up until now nobody has told me about that
[18:41] <jnkq> what is you problem?
[18:41] <mysterycool> gregory: oh shoot, i wanted to use gvim :S
[18:41] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> jnkq: my problem?
[18:41] <waylandbill> hellues: you can choose to manually partition and choose not to format /home
[18:42] <mysterycool> gregory: is it in synaptic? :S
[18:42] <lordleemo> DOMAIN_CONROLLER:d ok sorry well now you can read it
[18:42] <hellues> oki doki
[18:42] <fat-head> is alien arena 2008 the one in the repo's???
[18:42] <hellues> than ks
[18:42] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> lordleemo: sure can :) thank you
[18:42] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> jnkq: my problem is that im trying to setup samba as a domain controller but samba wont let me add users
[18:42] <BlackChaos> is there any way 2 fix my firefox problem
[18:43] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: keep help.ubuntu.com in your mind. You can always search there as a starting place.
[18:43] <n1k93> is there a possiblity that ubuntu will be made rolling release in future?
[18:43] <LjL-Temp> !ot
[18:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:43] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: i know, its just jnkq asked me what problem i was having, i was just telling him :)
[18:43] <Seveas> n1k93, a very very small one. Minute one might say
 of courses..just don't select to reformat the /home partition when do the ubuntu setup.
[18:43] <n1k93> why
[18:44] <waylandbill> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: I mean if you have issues in the future. It's a valuable resource.
[18:44] <nikrud> !getdeb > nikrud
[18:44] <peace> eh..its... verifying DMI pool data...Boot from CD...GRUB loading stage 1.5...GRUB LOADING, please wait....Press 'Esc' to enter the menu...0......... Starting up....then green line appears..and then loads ubuntu..
[18:44] <peace> waylandbill :)
[18:45] <peace> ah..so i should press esc perhaps..hm i wanst been able to try it...
[18:45]  * rockcityvi I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen. Any suggestions?
[18:46] <waylandbill> peace: yes. you should be able to get a menu by hitting ESC... You could up the timeout value in menu.lst to say 10 or even 60 seconds to make it easier.
[18:46] <peace> ah...thanks..ill try it
[18:46] <peace> thanks for help :D
[18:46] <waylandbill> peace: also, try commenting out 'hiddenmenu'
[18:46] <mysterycool> any good text editor for ubuntu gutsy which works via GUI and it has all that colouring for correct syntax etc...
[18:46] <waylandbill> peace: that way you don't have to hit ESC
[18:47] <themime> im trying to install phpBB2 and i downloaded and unzipped it and placed the folder contents in /var/www/forums  i go to http://theip/forums/install/install.php, and rather than go to the configure screen, it asks if i want to download install.php; whats going on here?
[18:47] <xtknight> themime, you haven't installed a php interpreter for your web server
[18:47] <waylandbill> mysterycool: gvim is nice if you are familiar with vim editing
[18:47] <Seveas> themime, you don't have php installed
[18:48] <mysterycool> waylandbill: i am not familiar with vim editing, any other suggestions? :s
[18:48] <themime> xtknight: do i have to download php, or do i have to run some command on apache2 to enable it?
[18:48] <themime> cause i thought it was already installed
[18:48] <the_only_one> Hi
[18:48] <rockcityvi> I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen.  Any suggestions?
[18:48] <xtknight> themime, im not sure
[18:48] <Seveas> themime, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[18:48] <mysterycool> themime: download
[18:48] <mysterycool> themime: in synaptic search for php5 and download
[18:48] <themime> mmk
[18:48] <themime> thanks
[18:48] <mysterycool> np
[18:48] <bobbo> mysterycool; Have you try gedit? The default Text Editor in Ubuntu?
[18:48] <mysterycool> bobbo: yes but i dont really like it. i means it's nice but still not really nice
[18:49] <rockcityvi> uh, hello?
[18:49] <waylandbill> mysterycool: you could search in synaptic for 'editor' or 'text editor'
[18:49] <the_only_one> [rockcityvi] hello
[18:49] <hyw> Can anyone help me configure my back/ forward buttons I used this site and I probably messed up big time my scroll buttons wont work anymore as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons#head-9146e8615679ecc34ebbc82f2fcb8b50a7799b61
[18:49] <bobbo> mysterycool; http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/editors/ <-- Theres bound to be one you like in there
[18:50] <rockcityvi> Hi!
[18:50] <rockcityvi> I installed Unbuntu 7.10 and when I boot I get to the grub boot menu and then I select Ubuntu and it loads and goes to the login screen and then after that it goes to a blank screen.  Any suggestions?
[18:50] <themime> apparently php is already installed but it says its configured to manual configure, how do i go about doing that?
[18:50] <mysterycool> waylandbill & bobbo found something editor called KWrite, seems nice, thank u guyz ;)
[18:50] <waylandbill> mysterycool: if you like kwrite, you may like kate better.
[18:50] <mysterycool> ?
[18:50] <mysterycool> kate?
[18:51] <thesurvivorman> mysterycool, it might be overkill, but could you use bluefish
[18:51] <waylandbill> !info kate
[18:51] <ubotu> kate (source: kdebase): advanced text editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 799 kB, installed size 2248 kB
[18:51] <Alan_> How unstable or otherwise is the 8.04 beta?  Gutsy is kinda broken on my desktop, but I can't work out if i should re-install now and then install 8.04 when it releases, or just install the 8.04 beta now
[18:51] <bobbo> Alan_; Is your laptop a production laptop/really important/for work?
[18:53] <Alan_> bobbo, I was on about my desktop, but...  It's important that it works, yes, fixing the occasional problem is ok (I used to run gentoo), and i have a fully-working laptop which i also use for working on...
[18:54] <Alan_> bobbo, so, my situation is reasonably tolerant
[18:54] <bobbo> Alan_; its should probably be fine now, but there still may be major breakages before it is released
[18:54] <Centaur5> I configured kickstart to use my apt-cacher repository to install Ubuntu but it still does security.ubuntu.com for releases.  How can I customize the sources.list for the installer to use?
[18:54] <EdwardXp3> my mic isn't working :(
[18:54] <waylandbill> Alan_: just be sure to have proper backups before using beta software of course.
[18:55] <Alan_> waylandbill, of course :P
[18:56] <arke_> Hi, having a problem with my monitor. I just installed a fresh kubuntu gutsy. I've got two problems: (1) The desktop itself seems to be at a 1600x1200 size, and I cannot find where to change this (2) whenever my monitor is running at native (1680x1050), the entire screen is shifted very far to the left, so much so that I can't manually fix it with the monitor's controls. I did some brief googling, but haven't found anything helpful yet. Any ideas?
[18:58] <legend2440> !resolution |  arke_
[18:58] <ubotu> arke_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:58] <Daniel0> hey, i was wondering if anybody could help me get my sound working on my hp dv9500 series laptop. i tried the things here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller but none of the things worked
[18:58] <gylan1979> does anyone tell me how to install and configure my atheros wireless on my ubuntu 7.10 gutsy??
[19:00] <jnkq> search google for 'wicd'.
[19:00] <lordleemo> Daniel0: found a link for you have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3324442
[19:01] <gylan1979> wicd??? is what?
[19:01] <n1k93> can mandriva control center on pclos control center be ported to ubuntu?
[19:01] <waylandbill> gylan1979: have you checked the ubuntu documentation site?
[19:02] <Daniel0> lordleemo: ok. i'll try to look at that
[19:02] <RaceKondition> what's the most convenient POP3/IMAP server that can be installed on Ubuntu?
[19:03] <legend2440> gylan1979: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[19:03] <RaceKondition> more convenient than dovecot.. to simply setup mailbox access for system users
[19:03] <gylan1979> wayandbill: i had try to search for help in installing my atheros driver, i followed the step but fail.
[19:03] <n1k93> :-/can mandriva control center or pclos control center be ported to ubuntu?
[19:04] <Hash-the-cracker> hi all
[19:04] <waylandbill> n1k93: those run kde, right? kubuntu has similar called 'system settings'
[19:05] <zagabog> hi
[19:05] <gylan1979> legend2440: i tried this morning but no respond on my wireless
[19:05] <waylandbill> gylan1979: you could try a windows driver using ndiswrapper.
[19:05] <legend2440> gylan1979: from all acounts atheros is diffucult to get working. i don't have one but thats what i've heard
[19:05] <lordleemo> Daniel0: this may be better for you good luck m8 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059
[19:06] <jnkq_> hello
[19:06] <pulpfiction> how do i add a shortcut to the "show desktop" button?
[19:06] <efirewick> I am trying to get a wireless connection in 7.10 and it won't connect... Any know how to configure it. I'm using a d-link usb adapter
[19:06] <n1k93> waylandbill: i know about it, i prefer kde. but do kubuntu system settings have the same features?
[19:06] <legend2440> n1k93: do you have gnome-control-center installed?
[19:06] <Daniel0> lordleemo: that topic states that it's only for feisty
[19:07] <themime> apparently php is already installed but it says its configured to manual configure, how do i go about doing that?
[19:07] <n1k93> legend2440: yes
[19:07] <RichW> efirewick: What model of D-Link? DWL-G122?
[19:07] <efirewick> wow, good guess. yes it is
[19:07] <lordleemo> Daniel0: that covers most ovf the dv series http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059
[19:07] <waylandbill> n1k93: I can't testify that they are completely accurate as I've not used pclos or mandriva in a long while.
[19:07] <RichW> efirewick: Is it version 3?
[19:07] <Yoha> Hello
[19:07] <NanykO> Woww
[19:08] <Yoha> I hav a bug with my Ubuntu
[19:08] <RichW> efirewick: Look on it for the version, theres 3 versions of it
[19:08] <efirewick> richw: 2.02
[19:08] <Yoha> And OpenGL
[19:08] <waylandbill> gylan1979: if you decide to try windows drivers, this page may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/ndiswrapper.html
[19:08] <gylan1979> waylandbill & legend2440: ic, i tried the steps frm the website, but don't know why, it does not have any respond. I have already install the ndiswrapper
[19:08] <lordleemo> Daniel0: read the very top line it sas gutsy supported
[19:08] <RichW> efirewick: Is that what it says on the sticker on the adapter?
[19:08] <crshman> are there any other good IDE's for ubuntu other than eclipse?
[19:08] <efirewick> richw: yes
[19:08] <lordleemo> Daniel0: sorry my bad
[19:08] <Yoha> When I do "grep Direct /var/log/Xorg.0.log" in the console, he say "(WW) SAVAGE(0): Direct rendering disabled
[19:08] <Yoha> "
[19:09] <RichW> efirewick: Thanks, hang on. I need to research.
[19:09] <waylandbill> crshman: what language are you developing with?
[19:09] <Yoha> can somebody help me ?
[19:09] <gylan1979> waylandbill: thx, i try 1st.
[19:09] <crshman> waylandbill: PHP and Perl
[19:09] <qwo_> physicsgirl: what does E=mc2 mean ?
[19:09] <foxiness> is there away to let ubuntu on boot ignore badblocks ?
[19:09] <NanykO> how view menu in fluxbox?
[19:09] <efirewick> richw: where are you looking, if you don't mind me asking. I've been searching for a couple hours...
[19:10] <NanykO> ?
[19:10] <NanykO> ?
[19:10] <NanykO> how view menu in fluxbox?
[19:11] <RichW> efirewick: Im sorry, I thought they had a version number but it is actually a letter, A, A2, B, C.. see: http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp?productId=DWL-G122
[19:11] <qwo_> physicsgirl: what do you think of BJs ?
[19:11] <RichW> efirewick: tell me which one you have from their website
[19:11] <physicsgirl> qwo_, it's a equation from the relativity theory =) it means that weight can be "transformed" into energy and it has a high piece of energy on it.
[19:11] <wubrgamer> hey guys, rtorrent and Screen
[19:11] <wubrgamer> I can't get any of rtorrents ctrl-* commands to work under screen
[19:11] <sam_> Hi can somebody help me with this for some reason when i try to run quake 4 i get this error:  --------------- R_InitOpenGL ----------------
[19:11] <sam_> Initializing SDL subsystem
[19:11] <sam_> Loading GL driver 'libGL.so.1' through SDL
[19:11] <sam_> Segmentation fault
[19:11] <pulpfiction> how do i add a shortcut to the "show desktop" button?
[19:12] <arke_> legend2440: found it there, thanks. :)
[19:12] <waylandbill> crshman: Anjuta, Kdevelop, or a simple text editor. Debugging isn't supported in those for scripting though.
[19:12] <RichW> efirewick: You still there? I have big interest in linux wireless :)
[19:12] <crshman> waylandbill: ah ok, thanks i'll try them
[19:12] <i> sudo apt-get install friends :D
[19:12] <lordleemo> Daniel0: you got a hp
[19:12] <Daniel0> lordleemo: yes
[19:13] <RustedGod_> Hi.  What's the recommended way to install (uncommon) Perl modules in Ubuntu?  Try to package them?  CPAN.pm?  perl Makefile.PL, etc.?
[19:13] <i> who have got bit tornado is it god?
[19:13] <lordleemo> have a look in the audio section here http://aldeby.org/blog/?page_id=87#audio
[19:13] <waylandbill> crshman: I've moved to python from perl, so it's been a little while. There could be more options now.
[19:13] <i> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:13] <FlezZ> any VDR users here?
[19:13] <RichW> i: Couldn't find package friends
[19:13] <legend2440> pulpfiction: do you mean how add show desktop button to panel?
[19:13] <sam_> Hi can somebody help me with this for some reason when i try to run quake 4 i get this error:  --------------- R_InitOpenGL ----------------
[19:13] <sam_> Initializing SDL subsystem
[19:13] <sam_> Loading GL driver 'libGL.so.1' through SDL
[19:13] <sam_> Segmentation fault
[19:13] <SliMM> how do i caompletely disable device support in rhythmbox?
[19:13] <crshman> waylandbill: what do you think of python....i've been considering making the jump
[19:14] <RichW> i: Says I have no friends :(
[19:14] <waylandbill> crshman: alot more readable.
[19:14] <oc80z> How do i upgrade Ubuntu gutsy to Ubunty Hardy Heron via Console.
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <pulpfiction> legend2440, no, i have it there.. i want to add a shortcut to that functionality
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <wubrgamer> don't flood
[19:14] <FloodBot2> herjok: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:14] <herjok> who have got bit tornado is it good?
[19:15] <sam_> Hi can somebody help me with this for some reason when i try to run quake 4 i get this error:  Hi can somebody help me with this for some reason when i try to run quake 4 i get this error:  --------------- R_InitOpenGL ----------------
[19:15] <sam_> Initializing SDL subsystem
[19:15] <sam_> Loading GL driver 'libGL.so.1' through SDL
[19:15] <sam_> Segmentation fault
[19:15] <crshman> waylandbill: anything else that's good about it? "readable" doesn't really strike me as a super convincing argument haha
[19:15] <wubrgamer> !pastebin
[19:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:15] <RichW> sam_: Try making sure libgl is installed?
[19:15] <sam_> RichW it is installed
[19:15] <RichW> sam_: sdl? Are you on 32bit ubuntu?
[19:15] <sam_> RichW i have played other OpenGL games
[19:15] <waylandbill> crshman: it has a standard library filled with many useful networking classes. I like to call it a swiss-army chainsaw
[19:15] <sam_> RichW I am on 64-bit
[19:16] <RichW> sam_: Switch to 32bit
[19:16] <RustedGod> Since my question got buried in a flood of spam, what's the recommended way to install Perl modules in Ubuntu?
[19:16] <sam_> RichW 64-bit recognized all 4GB of my RAM and everything i have tried seems to work well on it
[19:16] <RichW> sam_: 64bit isnt worth it trust me.
[19:16] <jamestoy> i'm here to help :)
[19:16] <waylandbill> RustedGod_: I would say using CPAN. It's not an ubuntu recommendation as a perl one.
[19:16] <SliMM> doesn't anyone use rhythmbox?
[19:16] <jamestoy> SliMM , used to
[19:16] <sam_> RichW ya but 32-bit limits my system
[19:16] <jamestoy> SliMM , i recommend xmms though
[19:16] <RustedGod> waylandbill, OK, thanks
[19:17] <RichW> sam_: yes alot of stuff works, and I think 32bit reads all the ram from what ive seen.. its not like windows.
[19:17] <efirewick> richw: b1
[19:17] <SliMM> jamestoy: well, it doesn't fit into my gtk theme
[19:17] <RichW> efirewick: Thanks, I will find out what chip d-link use inside the usb stick.
[19:17] <sam_> RichW i checked online and it said the limitations are on all 32-bit operating systems
[19:17] <sisif> Hello. Does anyone here has any experience on how to peer a linux with a windowx XP machine via BT, so I can use the internet connection ?
[19:17] <efirewick> richw: thanks
[19:17] <waylandbill> crshman: I'd recommend looking at the standard library reference if nothing else and see if any of the existing classes suit your needs and decide then.
[19:18] <Skiessi> sisif, what?
[19:18] <crshman> waylandbill: will do =)
[19:18] <jamestoy> SliMM , haha well i mean -- its just better software
[19:18] <jamestoy> sisif , that will require considerable work
[19:19] <sisif> Skiessi : i`m tring to peer my ubuntu notebook with an Win XP desktop, via bluetooth, so I cand share the internet connetion.
[19:19] <SliMM> jamestoy: well, it may be, but for my needs (just music playback, no fancy stuff) it's more important to look the way i want it too
[19:19] <SliMM> to*
[19:19] <jamestoy> SliMM , understood , whats your question about it
[19:19]  * jamestoy isn
[19:19]  * jamestoy isn't here to argue about software
[19:19] <martinez> l
[19:19] <oskie> hello, trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, but i get an error during "Modifying the software channels"
[19:19] <ayaale> hi like to ask if is that pidgin in synaptic i cant seem to find any in my ubuntu
[19:20] <jamestoy> oskie , are ou doing this through terminal
[19:20] <Skiessi> sisif, ok I don't know about that
[19:20] <waylandbill> sisif: it may be simpler to purchase a wifi router if the notebook has a wifi card.
[19:20] <oskie> jamestoy: no, from System -> Administration -> Upgrade
[19:20] <Skiessi> :P why everyone else seems to have a laptop but me?
[19:20] <SliMM> jamestoy: well, i once pointed the library to a symbolic link to a folder on my ipod and i forgot to disable "watch"
[19:20] <jamestoy> sisif , i would google that -- i'm sure thats esoteric
[19:20] <martinez> i believe ubuntu comes with pidgin installed by default now
[19:20] <Skiessi> *have laptops
[19:21] <RichW> sam_: You can download a 32bit ubuntu live cd and boot from it.. see if it works.. it wont affect your 64bit installation.
[19:21] <SliMM> jamestoy: when i unplugged the ipod and then replugged it, rhythmbox froze
[19:21] <martinez> check under applications > internet > pidgen
[19:21] <efirewick> ayaale: should be under applications-> add/remove
[19:21] <sisif> waylandbill : it has. That is not the point. I`m at my parrents home and right now I`m using a crossover UTP cable. But kinda defies the "portable" ...
[19:21] <SliMM> jamestoy: and it kept going like that whenever i started it and the ipod was plugged in
[19:21] <jamestoy> SliMM , alirght and your question is how to turn it off?
[19:21] <jamestoy> or force quit
[19:21] <Yodude> hello, i just heard that mozilla ndecide to postpone the firefox 3 release to june ! Will hardy ship a beta by default then ?
[19:22] <jamestoy> Yodude , you can install the beta -- i have not experience any issues wit hit
[19:22] <patrick_> does anyone have a link to some good gutsy gibbon themes, im sick of the ole ubuntu themes
[19:22] <SliMM> jamestoy: no, i know how to turn an application off -- though this may be another question, but later.
[19:22] <martinez> SERVER -ssl #rootthisbox
[19:22] <jamestoy> Yodude , apt-get install firefox-3.0
[19:22] <RichW> efirewick: You have a rt2500usb chipset... You should use ubuntu hardy to correct wireless problems. Do you want a download link?
[19:22] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> i need help sooo badly with samba
[19:22] <wubrgamer> anyone ?
[19:22] <RustedGod> Anyone know whether it's safe to use elinks with CPAN.pm instead of lynx?
[19:22] <efirewick> yaale> hi like to ask if is that pidgin in synaptic i cant seem to find any in my ubuntu
[19:22] <efirewick> * iplease
[19:22] <legend2440> !themes
[19:22] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:22] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> does anyone know about samba domain controllers???
[19:22] <jamestoy> SliMM please msg me -- its too hectic in her atm
[19:22] <efirewick> yaale> hi like to ask if is that pidgin in synaptic i cant seem to find any in my ubuntu
[19:22] <efirewick> * i
[19:22] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !samba
[19:22] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:22] <patrick_> uboto thanks
[19:22] <SliMM> jamestoy: now, i have updated it to get rid of this problem (reinstalling didn't work)
[19:23] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !domain controller
[19:23] <Yodude> jamestoy: yes but it's too risky to ship beta software by default !!!!! afterall it's an enterprise release
[19:23] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> does anyone know about samba domain controllers???
[19:23] <numpszi> Gedit stops with no error message, what can be the problem?
[19:23] <Skiessi> efirewick, pidgin is called gaim in older ubuntus
[19:23] <waylandbill> !abuse | DOMAIN_CONROLLER
[19:23] <ubotu> DOMAIN_CONROLLER: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:23] <SliMM> jamestoy: #slimm, i have forgotten my password, i can't send prv messages
[19:23] <jamestoy> Yodude , so you don't want to software -- what do you want?? haha
[19:23] <ayaale> it is a different version from gaim i swear
[19:24] <ayaale> it is much usable than gaim and i think it is more powerful in a sense
[19:24] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> waylandbill: i dont see how the repeated asking of a question is abuse, surely you are the one abusing the IRC channel
[19:24] <DOMAIN_CONROLLER> !abuse |waylandbill
[19:24] <ubotu> waylandbill: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:24] <ayaale> however cant seem to find it in synaptic
[19:24] <Yodude> jamestoy: don't you think it would be unstable
[19:24] <Yodude> ?
[19:24] <efirewick> richw: sorry, my chat client is acting up. i didn't type that... it's going a bit wacky on me. Good old windows i guess...
[19:24] <jamestoy> no -- i use it often
[19:24] <jamestoy> and am running a server
[19:25] <numpszi> Gedit always stops with no error message, where can be the problem?
[19:25] <Skiessi> stops? crashes?
[19:25] <numpszi> crash
[19:25] <numpszi> yes
[19:25] <efirewick> richw: I would like any info on that.
[19:25] <Noah0504> Okay, I feel like a noob because I've somewhat done what I want to do a million time, but I'm having a little trouble with Apache and Ubuntu.
[19:25] <numpszi> No window created
[19:25] <ayaale> anyways thank you for the response, most probably the software would need to be taken in sourcefourge, extract the file and ./configur, make, sudo make install....
[19:25] <Skiessi> in gutsy?
[19:25] <ayaale> thanks
[19:26] <RichW> efirewick: You get my message? Upgrade to ubuntu hardy, it has new ralink drivers... d-link use ralink technology. Heres the iso image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/hardy-desktop-i386.iso
[19:26] <Skiessi> Noah0504, what problem?
[19:26] <numpszi> No, in Hardy
[19:26] <Noah0504> I want to use SFTP to upload files to my Ubuntu box, but I'm not able to upload to /var/www for obvious reasons.
[19:26] <Newbuntu2> can someone help me with my harddrive? i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/
[19:26] <RichW> numpszi: See #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[19:26] <Noah0504> What's the easiest way to fix the problem?  Configure Apache to use /home?
[19:27] <waylandbill> Noah0504: make a symbolic link in /var/www to a writable location
[19:27] <efirewick> richw: what is hardy?
[19:27] <Skiessi> numpszi, it could be this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722886
[19:27] <SliMM> jamestoy: sorry for that, and thanks :)
[19:27] <RichW> !hardy
[19:27] <numpszi> When I start gedit from console, it crashes, and no output...
[19:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:27] <jamestoy> Noah0504 , apache has a default to make public_html in home directories active
[19:27] <themime> how do i configure apache to use php?
[19:27] <jamestoy> www.localhost.com/~yourhomefolder
[19:27] <RichW> !hardy | efirewick
[19:27] <ubotu> efirewick: please see above
[19:28] <efirewick> thanks
[19:28] <themime> the tutorials i find are inconsistant with apache2 (like it using apache2.conf isntead of httpd.conf)
[19:28] <efirewick> is there a way to fix it in 7.10
[19:28] <numpszi> Skiessi: Why do you think?
[19:29] <RichW> efirewick: Yes, I am suggesting to use the unreleased ubuntu beta until it comes out.
[19:29] <SliMM> i also have a poweroff problem
[19:29] <Noah0504> jamestoy: Well, I want my IP or domain name to just forward to "/".  If I set up a domain name, would I just make it forward to IP/~homefolder?
[19:29] <pulpfiction> how do i add a keyboard shortcut to the "show desktop" button?
[19:29] <RichW> efirewick: well it will upgrade your beta installation upon release
[19:29] <Skiessi> libc problems usually cause random crashes
[19:29] <SliMM> could anyone help me with this?
[19:29] <patrick_> hey im trying to get this theme (im running gutsy)...here is the link: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4Lin+ver.0.4+Emerald+Theme?content=71995                        can anyone help me out on how to get it exactly?
[19:29] <RichW> efirewick: Yes, You can run the drivers under ndiswrapper
[19:30] <Noah0504> Wow, I forgot how busy this channel is.
[19:30] <Noah0504> haha
[19:30] <RichW> !ndiswrapper | efirewick
[19:30] <ubotu> efirewick: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:30] <blah569> Is it fine to ask Wubi-related questions in this IRC channel?
[19:30] <efirewick> thanks again
[19:31] <SliMM> sometimes, when i click the "turn off" button on the screen, my computer freezes, why?
[19:31] <Skiessi> themime have you installed the required packages?
[19:33] <legend2440> patrick_: http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=204373
[19:33] <Positronic_> why does Firefox usually crash when viewing flash videos?
[19:33] <Positronic_> the screen goes dark (unresponsive)
[19:33] <Newbuntu2> can someone help me with my harddrive? i get this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60369/
[19:33] <Positronic_> and when I hit close, it prompts me to Force Quit
[19:33] <patrick_> legend2440 thanks ill try it out
[19:35] <vluid> hello everyone
[19:35] <Skiessi> hi
[19:35] <patrick_> legend2440 i did save to disk, i assume just double click on the icon on my desktop and the rest does it for itself?
[19:35] <vluid>  i've got a question about lm_sensors driver k8temp. what's the difference between coretemp and cpu temp. i have  sempron 3100+ here an under load the coretemp reaches about 47-49 degrees but the cpu tem is about 40? heh? which is now the "real" teperature? iguess he higher one...
[19:35] <blah569> Is it fine to ask Wubi-related questions in this IRC channel?
[19:36] <waylandbill> blah569: what's the question?
[19:37] <legend2440> patrick_: the instructions are here Mac4Lin_Documentation_2.pdf on that same page.
[19:37] <blah569> I have done some reading that Wubi can totatly mess up your system, as in not allowing you to boot into Windows nor Ubuntu, but the only reason was due to a "hard-power off," as in you unplug or just simply use the power button.
[19:38] <themime> why is php5.conf set as read only by default?
[19:38] <valberg> hey :) does anyone know how i get my sound working? when i try to run alsamixer i get this error : "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" ...
[19:38] <vluid> valberg: what soundcard?
[19:38] <vluid> valberg: are all modules loaded?
[19:39] <Skiessi> blah569, that's probably only during partition resizing
[19:39] <Skiessi> the rish of losing them
[19:39] <Skiessi> *the risk
[19:39] <Skiessi> -.-
[19:39] <blah569> How would I prevent that from hapening?
[19:39] <Noah0504> I ended up finding a wonderful tutorial on creating a new default site in Apache.
[19:39] <valberg> vluid, lspci -v says: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[19:39] <K-Yo> hi everyone. I did something bad and I would like to know if there is a way to fix it: I typed in a console "sudo chown -R `whoami` /var" and now I can't use any sudo anymore...
[19:39] <Skiessi> I don't think it will happen if you have a normal pc
[19:40] <valberg> vluid, and don't know which modules are required
[19:40] <Malik_> is there a way to install compiz on gusty without internet on it?
[19:40] <scientus__> can someone help me locate wubi-cdboot i want to install ubuntu with only the cd-image accesable through windows. wubi has corrupted itself twice so i want to ship the ubuntu-in windows thing
[19:40] <patrick_> legend2440 sorry im a noob dude, so i've downloaded that file and extracted it to my desktop, i cant really follow the easiest directions in the world, could you help me out on where to go from there?
[19:40] <scientus__> wubi-cdboot.exe
[19:41] <Malik_> download iso recorder and burn it on to a cd/dvd
[19:41] <Malik_> and insert it in ur computer and install it
[19:41] <thesurvivorman> patrick_:  is emerald installed? if so, open the setting for it, then load the theme there.
[19:41] <scientus__> but i cant burn it
[19:41] <Malik_> i suggest u get frather help wiht the partioning part if u got iwndows to
[19:41] <gorbierd> what i need to install to use "svn checkout" command
[19:41] <scientus__> i was gonna wubi then lvpm or whatever but wubi is super buggy
[19:42] <gorbierd> console says that command not found
[19:42] <scientus__> i've never had problems partitioning
[19:42] <Malik_> is there a way to install compiz in gusty without internet on it???????
[19:42] <MDM> how do I go about manually installing GRUB as Ubuntu doesn't detect my XP installation and so it just boots into Windows XP.
[19:42] <Skiessi> Malik_, yeah you can download the required packages with some other pc and put them on a cd or usb memory or something and install them from there
[19:42] <Dougy> whats the tool to reconfigure xorg's resolutions? :(
[19:42] <Malik_> can u gimem the link for the package
[19:42] <K-Yo> gorbierd, "sudo apt-get install subversion"
[19:42] <Starnestommy> Dougy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[19:42] <Dougy> maybe
[19:42] <Dougy> testing
[19:42] <gorbierd> thankx a lot K-Yo!
[19:42] <Flannel> Malik_: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:42] <patrick_> thesurvivorman i dont think its installed cuz all i did was download and extract, what should i do?
[19:42] <K-Yo> gorbierd, you're welcom ;)
[19:43] <Malik_> and after i download it i jus install it on ubuntu computer rite
[19:43] <legend2440> patrick_: you first need to get all files
[19:43] <legend2440> Mac4Lin_Icons_Part2_v0.4.tar.gz  Mac4Lin_Wallpapers_Part3_v0.4.tar.gz
[19:43] <legend2440> Mac4Lin_Documentation_2.pdf
[19:43] <scientus__> partitioning isnt a problem but wubi-cdboot.exe is suppose to do exactally what i need i just cant find it
[19:43] <Skiessi> Malik_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/compiz-gnome
[19:43] <Skiessi> there
[19:43] <blue-frog> K-Yo: to solve your problem you have to boot in recovery mode and change back the permissions
[19:43] <Malik_> ty...so i jus insall this in ubuntu after
[19:43] <Dougy> that's it
[19:43] <Dougy> ty
[19:43] <Skiessi> and probably te i386 versions
[19:43] <Skiessi> *the
[19:44] <K-Yo> blue-frog, do you know the command I have to type to change those permissions? I'm only good  at copy/paste :P
[19:44] <legend2440> patrick_:  as well as  Mac4Lin_Icons_Part1_v0.4.tar.gz
[19:44] <Malik_> i donot get it i followed the link but there is no place to downlaod it
[19:44] <legend2440> patrick_: sry make that as well as Mac4Lin_Part1_v0.4.tar.gz
[19:44] <blue-frog> K-Yo: the same as you did without sudo, but do it in recovery mode,
[19:44] <scientus__> come on people how do i find wubi-cdboot.exe i dont want to have to install a out-of dat 7.04 and then upgrage thats super sucky
[19:44] <patrick_> legend im actually about to leave, if you dont mind helping me later on, im quite the linux noob but would really like to get into it...ill be on pidgin screen name newyorkerjj35 cya!
[19:44] <Skiessi> Malik_,  ok I'll make a list
[19:45] <K-Yo> blue-frog, thank you very much ;)
[19:45] <Skiessi> wait a min or few
[19:45] <Malik_> a list for wat i donot get it
[19:45] <legend2440> patrick_: total of 4 files
[19:45] <legend2440> patrick_: ok
[19:45] <patrick_> peace
[19:46] <Skiessi> Malik_,  list of files you need to download
[19:46] <Malik_> o okay
[19:46] <masai47> any advice how to get out of comand line (kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...)
[19:46] <eisenhower> can someone help me to get dvd playback working? i did a bunch of tutorials but none still let it go
[19:46] <Malik_> but don't i jus need 1
[19:47] <Malik_> the compiz gnome thing
[19:47] <Skiessi> packages have requirements :P
[19:47] <dwad> running XP from vmware player started taking a lot of time recently, what could cause this?
[19:47] <masai47> on start it does not go to graphical login screen
[19:47] <Skiessi> means: compiz-gnome package needs a bunch of other packages to work
[19:49] <eisenhower_> anyone help me out?
[19:49] <Flannel> Malik_: compiz comes with Gusy.  You'll just need whatever additional packages you want
[19:49] <talcite> do environmental variables persist beyond a restart?
[19:49] <Flannel> talcite: No
[19:49] <Malik_> then how do i put it on
[19:49] <Seveas> talcite, depends on whether you add them to loginscripts :)
[19:49] <Malik_> how do i tun compiz on
[19:49] <talcite> hmm... so I'd have to add it to my profile or something to preserve them?
[19:49] <talcite> I see
[19:49] <talcite> well if I want tomcat to run I guess I'll have to =S
[19:49] <Malik_> the cube effect that compiz does how do i turn it on
[19:50] <Flannel> talcite: export them in .bashrc
[19:50] <Flannel> talcite: tomcat?  Why does tomcat depend on your environmental variables?
[19:50] <scientus__> so can anybody help me with installing ubuntu without being able to burn the image??
[19:50] <trugath> rg
[19:51] <Flannel> !repeat | Malik_
[19:51] <ubotu> Malik_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:52] <KemrinH> Hey, my microphone isn't working. I don't have any idea were to start; what do I do?
[19:52] <Beererde> hi. how is the package from compiz which makes the window decoration called? everything works but as soon as i enable compiz, i have no decorations
[19:52] <Malik_> flannel: i hav unbtu gust runnign rite now but i can't seem to get the compiz thign workin
[19:52] <KemrinH> It's called Emerald Beererde
[19:52] <EdwardXp3> I Got this error on this new kernel i loaded up.... kernel panic not syncing VFS .. unable to mount root
[19:52] <Seveas> !compiz | Malik_
[19:52] <EdwardXp3> can somone help me?
[19:52] <KemrinH> No
[19:52] <Justinfo> hi
[19:52] <Seveas> Malik_, you'll need to fiddle with the settings in ccsm (package compizconfig-settings-manager)
[19:52] <Flannel> Malik_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:53] <Beererde> KemrinH: can i enable it without restarting X?
[19:53] <ubotu> Malik_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:53] <Malik_> is it possible ti install compiz without internet???
[19:53] <SpK> how do i install amsn ___
[19:53] <jpatrick> !amsn
[19:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:53] <KemrinH> Beererde - I'm not sure. Perhaps you can, but if you install it and it doesn't work; rebooting won't hurt.
[19:53] <Skiessi> Malik_,  are you using gutsy?
[19:53] <Malik_> yes
[19:54] <Starnestommy> SpK: sudo apt-get install amsn
[19:54] <danand> Malik_ - if you installed a copy of ubuntu 7.10 you already have compiz installed
[19:54] <Beererde> ok
[19:54] <SpK> i use ubuntu
[19:54] <Malik_> skiesse:yes
[19:54] <Seveas> SpK, applications -> add remove, search for amsn
[19:54] <SpK> ok
[19:54] <Malik_> danand: then how do i turn it on
[19:54] <Skiessi> open a terminal and type "compiz --replace"
[19:54] <xtknight> isn't there an easy way to decode a pgp message i got in my emial
[19:54] <Coudy> hi, i have ubuntu 8.04 and wifi with broadcom 4318 chipset , i was experimented with b43 drivers, and now i can't see my wifi card in ifconfig
[19:54] <SpK> thanks for the help!!!
[19:54] <legend2440> masai47: read 3rd entry  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4554387
[19:54] <Skiessi> and hit enter, enter your password and press enter again
[19:55] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get lauchcast radio to work with gusty
[19:55] <Justinfo> can anyone check if syslinux configure correct or not ?
[19:55] <Justinfo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60444/
[19:55] <arke_> question - I'm instlaling something that requires entering a CD2. Unfortuately, the cdrom drive is mounted, and of course, busy. umount -f didn't work. Any other idea?
[19:55] <Seveas> Coudy, undo your experiments :)
[19:55] <danand> Malik_ - have you looked under System -> Preferences -> Appearance and then the effects tab?
[19:55] <Skiessi> cd2? :|
[19:55] <arke_> Skiessi: yes, two install CDs
[19:55] <Starnestommy> xtknight: thunderbird has the enigmail add-on
[19:55] <burken> How do i run a program from terminal so it doesnt quit when restarting x?
[19:55] <Coudy> Seveas:  i did it, uninstall all drivers
[19:55] <arke_> Skiessi: (it's a windows app)
[19:55] <xtknight> Starnestommy, like what about just a general program
[19:56] <Malik_> yea i went there it only allows me to turn on the wobbly windows thong
[19:56] <xtknight> Starnestommy, i typed gpg -d but im not sure how to use it.  i pasted my text it asked for my passphrase, and then nothing decoded comes back
[19:56] <Malik_> thing*
[19:56] <KemrinH> Does anyone have any idea where I should start to fix my microphone?
[19:56] <Skiessi> Malik_,  you need ccsm
[19:57] <Capt_Logic> Hello all - I'm looking for help with ssh on my ubuntu (gutsy) box, any pointers where I should look
[19:57] <danand> Malik_ - check out this link - http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[19:57] <MrRoland> hey, is there a way to find all invalid symlinks on the system?
[19:57] <cookieonpalmtx> hey shitbreak[Demo]
[19:57] <cookieonpalmtx> fucking faggots[Demo]
[19:57] <SpK> Ok, first i download the amsn package
[19:57] <SpK> then how do i install
[19:57] <cookieonpalmtx> bye
[19:57] <danhs> Hello....what's the best way to archive copy a whole folder?  I did a local backup using rdiff-backup....I'd like to copy that local backup to an external hard drive and then move it from that external hard drive to a remote computer (sneaker net).....
[19:57] <Skiessi> Malik_, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/compizconfig-settings-manager/compizconfig-settings-manager_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[19:57] <yowshi> how does one run a .run file?
[19:57] <pulpfiction> how do i reset my keyboard shortcuts?
[19:57] <Skiessi> install that
[19:57] <danhs> should I tar it?  rsync it?
[19:58] <yowshi> !executable
[19:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about executable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:58] <Starnestommy> yowshi: with sh
[19:58] <legend2440> MrRoland: fslint has an option to find bad symlinks
[19:58] <SpK> i\ve downloaded the amsn package, how do i install it, this is my second day with ubuntu...
[19:58] <lilg111111> anybody know how to install windows xp in gusty
[19:58] <rabbit> dont
[19:58] <danhs> lilg111111: Use KVM
[19:58] <Coudy> Seveas: can you help ?
[19:58] <rabbit> install windows first, then ubuntu
[19:58] <lilg111111> what is that
[19:58] <danhs> lilg111111: Do a google search KVM windows ubuntu
[19:59] <SpK> i\ve downloaded the amsn package, how do i install it, this is my second day with ubuntu...
[19:59] <danand> Malik_ - do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[19:59] <Malik_> when i get ccsm how do i nstall it
[19:59] <danhs> lilg111111: KVM is a virtualization environment.  It will allow you to run windows, virtually, inside of ubuntu
[19:59] <SpK> i\ve downloaded the amsn package, how do i install it, this is my second day with ubuntu...
[19:59] <Starnestommy> SpK: where did you download it from?
[19:59] <lilg111111> danhs, thanx
[19:59] <Coudy> SpK: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[19:59] <Malik_> danand: i jus doloaded it
[19:59] <slackd00d> SpK: dpkg --install package.deb
[19:59] <Skiessi> doubleclick it?
[19:59] <SpK> sourceforge
[19:59] <Malik_> danand: how do i install it now?
[19:59] <Skiessi> Malik_, doubleclick the file?
[20:00] <danhs> lilg111111: No problem
[20:00] <SpK> i\ve downloaded the amsn package, how do i install it, this is my second day with ubuntu...ok
[20:00] <danand> Malik_ - dont install it
[20:00] <SpK> i got the file
[20:00] <SpK> the package
[20:00] <SpK> what should i do right now_
[20:00] <Malik_> danad: don;?
[20:00] <Starnestommy> SpK: double-click on it
[20:00] <SpK> ok
[20:00] <danhs> lilg111111: Gimme a sec, I was google searching.  There are a few good guides online
[20:00] <danand> Malik_ - no wait one
[20:00] <SpK> i get a error
[20:00] <Nickui> Are Ubuntu (Feisty Fawn) and Ubuntu the same?
[20:00] <SpK> could not open the file
[20:00] <Malik_> danand: so wat do i do then do get the cube effect
[20:00] <danand> Malik_ - go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:00] <Skiessi> ubuntu (feisty fawn) is a year old version of ubuntu
[20:01] <Malik_> danand: alrite
[20:01] <tim1> Hi guys I'm having to manually start the NFS on the server each time, shouldn't it start automatically after reboot or shutdown ?
[20:01] <Coudy> hi, i have ubuntu 8.04 and wifi with broadcom 4318 chipset , i was experimented with b43 drivers, and now i can't see my wifi card in ifconfig, I uninstalled all other drivers
[20:01] <Starnestommy> SpK: try downloading it with System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[20:01] <danhs> lilg111111: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM or http://www.michaeldolan.com/1030
[20:01] <SpK> i get a error when idouble click it
[20:01] <Malik_> danad: i am making notes of the steps
[20:01] <echinos> wow
[20:01] <whileimhere> Is there a tutorial on how to boot Ubuntu without booting into a desktop and just going into X and auto starting a program?
[20:01] <Skiessi> Malik_,  :D
[20:01] <Malik_> danad: iam gonig to go to my computer in a bit
[20:01] <echinos> this channel is HUGE
[20:01] <Malik_> lo
[20:01] <Malik_> lol
[20:01] <Skiessi> true
[20:01] <danand> Malik_ - that will install the manager for compiz effects
[20:01] <SpK> ok i opened the synaptic package manager
[20:01] <SpK> what now
[20:01] <Starnestommy> SpK: put 'amsn' in the search bar
[20:01] <danhs> lilg111111: there's more online.....lsat thing you might want to be aware of.  KVM is developing very fast.  The newer releases on the kvm website are a lot more mature then the one that comes on the gutsy repository.....
[20:01] <Skiessi> Malik_, did you download the file I linked?
[20:01] <GSMX> why can't you install vmware on 7.10 i386 ??
[20:02] <echinos> Is there a command-line way to have apt reconfigure itself for the best mirror?
[20:02] <Stroganoff> SpK, different approach
[20:02] <Malik_> skiesse: yes
[20:02] <SpK> he didn\t find anything called amsn
[20:02] <Stroganoff> SpK, open terminal, type: sudo apt-get instal amsn
[20:02] <danhs> lilg111111: You might want to download the source and compile it.  Which isn't too difficult, but it's somethign to be aware of
[20:02] <Stroganoff> and its done, SpK
[20:02] <Nickui> does ubuntu include kde or gnome
[20:02] <Malik_> danan: wont it jus install if i click on itd
[20:02] <Stroganoff> sdk: sudo apt-get install amsn
[20:02] <Stroganoff> double l
[20:02] <Skiessi> hmm interesting
[20:02] <SpK> how do i open terminal_
[20:02] <Skiessi> Malik_, can you use terminal?
[20:02] <danhs> What's the best way to archive copy a whole folder?  I did a local backup using rdiff-backup....I'd like to copy that local backup to an external hard drive and then move it from that external hard drive to a remote computer (sneaker net).....
[20:02] <danand> Malik_ - after that you should see a new entry in the System -> Preferences menu called Advanced Desktop Effects settings, from there you can configure compiz effect
[20:02] <Starnestommy> Nickui: gnome, but kubuntu has KDE and xubuntu has xfce
[20:02] <Stroganoff> SpK, it's in the application menu
[20:02] <Malik_> danand: yea i can use the terminal
[20:03] <GSMX> why can't you install vmware on 7.10 i386 ??
[20:03] <Malik_> danad: i alirte i get it now
[20:03] <Malik_> danand: i think i get it now
[20:03] <SpK> what is it called in the application menu_
[20:03] <danand> Malik_ - just use the terminal or an application like synaptics to install softeare
[20:03] <SpK> the terminal
[20:03] <Capt_Logic> I'm trying to connect to my ubuntu box via ssh and want port forwarding, but keep getting 'protocol mismatch' when I browse to my web server via ssh tunnell,  anybody?
[20:03] <SpK> run application___
[20:03] <Starnestommy> SpK: it's under Applications > Accessories
[20:03] <SpK> ok
[20:03] <danand> Malik_ - that way all dependancies for the application you want are installed automatically
[20:03] <Malik_> danand: so this thing will install with this terminal command rite
[20:04] <SpK> i got Calculator and Text Editor
[20:04] <danand> Malik_ - yes
[20:04] <SpK> thats the only things i have
[20:04] <Malik_> danand: alirte good
[20:04] <Stroganoff> SpK, Alt+F2 -> xterm
[20:04] <Skiessi> Malik_, open the terminal and cd yourself to the folder you downloaded the file, then type "sudo dpkg -i thenameofthepackage.deb
[20:04] <SpK> ok i got the terminal
[20:04] <Stroganoff> SpK: sudo apt-get install amsn
[20:05] <echinos> does netselect work for apt in Ubuntu?
[20:05] <Malik_> skiesse: the live cd i used to install
[20:05] <rai> oi
[20:05] <wil_> can .img files be mounted to a directory?
[20:05] <Skiessi> danand, he doesn't have internet connection on the pc he's going to install it :P
[20:05] <SpK> s be mounted to a directory?
[20:05] <SpK> i get a error
[20:05] <wil_> I have found tools to edit .iso, but cant find any for .img
[20:05] <Stroganoff> SpK, what error? package not available?
[20:05] <SpK> s be mounted to a directory?
[20:05] <amenado> wil_-> what files system is in that img?
[20:05] <danand> Malik_ - wait one
[20:05] <SpK> unable to lock administration directory
[20:05] <danhs> Can anyone help me with copying data for backup purposes?
[20:05] <Malik_> skiesse: nvm ig et wat u mean i am not burnign it and jjus putting on flash and copying over to ubuntu desktop and doing that command danand told me
[20:06] <Nickui> If ubuntu feisty fawn better in performance than the latest ubuntu?
[20:06] <Stroganoff> SpK: close synaptic and try again
[20:06] <SpK> ok
[20:06] <wil_> amenado, no idea, I want to open it, I dont really mind directory or not... I just cant seem to get any tool to read it
[20:06] <danhs> I've already used rdiff-backup but I'd like to transfer data via external hard drive
[20:06] <amenado> wil_-> where did you get it from?
[20:06] <Skiessi> Malik_, ok
[20:06] <wil_> amenado, Microsoft website
[20:06] <sean_> my profile wont complete startup, its missing both panels on the top and bottom. How can i fix this?
[20:07] <Malik_> skiesse: i hope things work out
[20:07] <amenado> wil_-> then i dont know what files system that img is
[20:07] <wil_> amenado, it works fine, but I would rather read it locally than waste a cd... i found loads of iso programs, but none that support img
[20:07] <SpK> i give up
[20:07] <SpK> i just dont get it
[20:07] <Stroganoff> SpK, why?
[20:07] <danand> Malik_ - run this command on your ubuntu box in a terminal - sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install compizconfig-settings-manager | grep ^\' | awk -F\' '{print $2}' > ccsm.txt
[20:07] <pulpfiction> how do i reset my keyboard shortcuts?
[20:07] <amenado> wil_-> try   file  filename.img  and seee if it tells you
[20:07] <SpK> administration synaptic
[20:07] <SpK> then edit search
[20:07] <SpK> amsn
[20:07] <SpK> nothing found
[20:07] <Shubbar> my printer is connected but i m getting printer may not be connected error?
[20:08] <Skiessi> wil_, do you have fuseiso installed?
[20:08] <danand> Malik_ - that will give you a list of files that you need to download to get ccsm onto your box.
[20:08] <Skiessi> !info fuseiso
[20:08] <ubotu> fuseiso (source: fuseiso): FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070507-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB
[20:08] <Starnestommy> SpK: you may need to enable the Universe repository in SYstem > Administration > Software Sources first
[20:08] <Malik_> danand: wat aobut the other command
[20:08] <peter77> I've installed apache and php5 on my ubuntu system in order to test a php application using unit tests locally, however I am gettting multiple exceptions oppose to 0 when testing using a remote server, does anyone know what could be causing this?
[20:08] <tim1> how 2 symbolic link ?
[20:08] <SpK> i dont have anything called software sources
[20:08] <Shubbar> the printer works on other pc,
[20:09] <wil_> amenado, it says udf
[20:09] <Skiessi> wil_, the descrition says it works with img files too
[20:09] <Fxyz4ever> hi everybody
[20:09] <wil_> Skiessi, il check now
[20:09] <danand> Malik_ - if you don't have a net connection on your ubuntu box that previous command i gave you wont work
[20:09] <Nickui> If ubuntu feisty fawn better in performance than the latest ubuntu?
[20:09] <Fxyz4ever> can anybody help me with my virtualbox?
[20:09] <Starnestommy> tim1: ln -s /path/to/target /symbolic/link
[20:09] <rai> cara e seguinte como fasso para instalar   Vdrift
[20:09] <wil_> Skiessi, where can I get it? it is not in the repositort
[20:09] <amenado> wil_-> first go see if your kernel support udf filesystem,  grep  -i udf /boot/config*
[20:10] <wil_> amenado, that command didnt work
[20:10] <Nickui> Is ubuntu feisty fawn better in performance than the latest ubuntu?
[20:10] <amenado> wil_-> what is the exact command you typed?
[20:10] <Skiessi> wil_ what version on ubuntu do you have?
[20:10] <howefield> fy coilsdissolves
[20:10] <Skiessi> *of
[20:10] <wil_> Skiessi, latest non beta
[20:10] <LjL-Temp> howefield: sorry?
[20:11] <howefield> mistype
[20:11] <Skiessi> nickui, the latest has better driver support, which may result in a lot better performance but dunno
[20:11] <wil_> grep -i udf /boot/config* it said no such file or directory
[20:11] <wil_> ahh, did it again...
[20:11] <wil_> first line = m, second = y
[20:12] <amenado> wil_-> you dont have a file  /boot/config*
[20:12] <danand> Malik_ - the last command i gave you will create a file called ccsm.txt with all the url's for the packages you need to install ccsm. You can download all the packages (manually or with wget) and place them on your ubuntu machine in the /var/cache/apt/archives folder. After that you can run sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager and it will install everything for you
[20:12] <wil_> amenado, I did it wrong, i have it now
[20:12] <wil_> amenado, first line said m the second y
[20:13] <lmosher> I just used a gparted livecd, trying to resize a partition, but gparted was saying it couldn't detect any devices. 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' was returning IO error, but while running ubuntu I don't get this problem at all
[20:13] <talcite> has anyone here used tomcat before?
[20:13] <amenado> wil_-> so it supports it,  now mount it with -t udf  and see if you can peek inside
[20:13] <talcite> I can't get into the administration page no matter what It ry
[20:13] <talcite> I try*
[20:13] <mzik> Enter text here...I have trouble instaling Ubunu- it stays at 82% any one with suggestion/solution?
[20:13] <talcite> the server keeps rejecting port 8180
[20:13] <Skiessi> lmosher are you sure that you used with gksu or sudo?
[20:13] <talcite> I don't even know if tomcat is running...
[20:14] <Skiessi> *...used it with...
[20:14] <lmosher> Skiessi, I tried with sudo, but isn't the livecd logged in as root?
[20:14] <amenado> lmosher-> reboot with the livecd again..maybe its just didnt detect it ..
[20:14] <amenado> lmosher-> nope you still have to sudo -i on livecd
[20:14] <a_> hallo
[20:15] <Skiessi> a_ hi
[20:15] <wil_> amenado, thanks, got it mounted and it works fine
[20:15] <wil_> brilliant! thanks
[20:15] <amenado> mzik-> you are at the stage where it looks for network connectivity, if you dont, it should time out, after say 10  mins
[20:15] <talcite> heck the ./shutdown.sh script doesn't even work
[20:15] <lmosher> amenado, I'll try that, but it's kind of silly if a livecd for gparted, whose soul purpose is to partition your disks, and -automatically- runs gparted when it starts up, requires you to close it and log in with sudo?
[20:15] <lmosher> I'll give it a shot. bbl
[20:15] <a_> wer kann deucht reden
[20:16] <amenado> lmosher-> i did not event the silly thing.. so i cant tell you why
[20:16] <mzik> It stays for afew houres
[20:16] <Nickui> is it possible to install kde on ubuntu?
[20:16] <LOGAN> where can I download DVD images of the buntu ISO's?
[20:16] <Skiessi> LOGAN, what version?
[20:16] <zcat[1]> LOGAN: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <amenado> mzik-> redo the install then, its at 83% or thereabouts when it uses the network to download updates...
[20:16] <LOGAN> zcat[1] : thanks
[20:16] <Starnestommy> Nickui: yes, just install the kde package or the kubuntu-desktop package
[20:16] <AlexHoover> Is the Ubuntu server distribution any different from the regular "Desktop" distro?
[20:17] <AlexHoover> If so- is there an 8.04 "server" release?
[20:17] <amenado> AlexHoover-> yes..
[20:17] <mzik> thnks
[20:17] <ethan961> AlexHoover, server has no gui
[20:17] <bruenig> AlexHoover: if you have an internet connection, no
[20:17] <zcat[1]> AlexHoover: yes. no desktop, and a kernel without 'preemption' patch and a few other low-latency desktop tweaks..
[20:18] <wubrgamer> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5978/
[20:18] <wubrgamer> how do I check email sent to the email "on the box"
[20:18] <Nickui> where can i get the kde package?
[20:18] <AlexHoover> Right. So would it be more advisable for me to get the Desktop version and install a LAMP for testing PHP apps, and to share file/printers across my network?
[20:18] <zcat[1]> AlexHoover: unless you're running a really high-traffic server, the desktop kernel will be just fine
[20:19] <amenado> AlexHoover-> go for it
[20:19] <lilg111111> danhs, im a newbie i dont know how to compile
[20:19] <AlexHoover> zcat[1], OK, thanks. One last question, though. Does 8.x consume more resources than 6.x? I'm currently running 6.1.
[20:20] <amenado> AlexHoover-> plz visit #ubuntu+1
[20:20] <LOGAN> is there a homepage of umenu (the one i found is from 2004)
[20:20] <zcat[1]> AlexHoover: not really. I'd go for the hardy beta, I'm running it now and it's pretty stable already
[20:20] <FlezZ> can anyone help me with VDR?
[20:20] <zcat[1]> AlexHoover: but yeah, and further discussion about hardy goes on +1 :)
[20:20] <Skiessi> !info vdr
[20:20] <ubotu> vdr (source: vdr): Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.7-1 (gutsy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2152 kB
[20:21] <MasterScript> shoutcast for ubuntu?
[20:21] <AlexHoover> Alright, thanks for the help :)
[20:21] <Skiessi> MasterScript, player or server?
[20:21] <MasterScript> server
[20:22] <Skiessi> !info darkice
[20:22] <ubotu> darkice (source: darkice): Live audio streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18.1-1 (gutsy), package size 113 kB, installed size 352 kB
[20:22] <Skiessi> try that one
[20:22] <ddm> I have a intel c2d (8400) cpu, shoud I install the 64 bit Ubuntu or will there be issues...?
[20:23] <wubrgamer> how do I check the local mail sent by cron ?
[20:23] <MasterScript> how Skiessi?
[20:23] <echinos> ok, so the answer is yes, you can ue netselect, but no ,you cannot use netselect-apt
[20:23] <Nickui> where can i get the kde package for ubuntu
[20:23] <easytarget> wubrgamer: mail command?
[20:24] <Starnestommy> Nickui: it's in the universe repository, iirc
[20:25] <Ergo^> hello
[20:25] <Ergo^> i just upgraded to hardy
[20:25] <Nickui> Starnestommy where can i get the download?
[20:25] <jjgy> I'm having some trouble getting vista to run with my 8800gt
[20:25] <ethan961> hardy discussion/support takes place in #ubuntu+1
[20:26] <jjgy> erm, ubuntu
[20:26] <Ergo^> ah k :P
[20:26] <Ergo^> #ubuntu+1
[20:26] <Starnestommy> Nickui: go to System > Software Sources and look for 'universe'
[20:27] <jjgy> is there any way to install ubuntu with my graphics card, or do I have to remove it, use onboard graphics, install ubuntu and drivers then put the card back in?
[20:27] <lmosher> I'm trying to resize my main ubuntu partition using a gparted liveCD, but it doesn't recognize my drive in the livecd. Everything works just hunky-dory when booting off the disk itself.
[20:27] <amenado> echinos-> what is that netselect?
[20:28] <MasterScript> which one shoutcast for ubuntu?
[20:28] <MasterScript> http://www.shoutcast.com/download/files.phtml <--- which one file?
[20:28] <jnkq> what is you graphic card?
[20:28] <adamb> So anyway I can have flash on 64bit?
[20:28] <amenado> lmosher-> what do you get when you try to fdisk -l  within liveCD?
[20:29] <Starnestommy> MasterScript: the 4th one
[20:29] <echinos> amenado: it finds the fastest mirror for apt
[20:29] <lmosher> amenado, Scary I/O errors.
[20:29] <jnkq> nash to display flash on 64bit
[20:29] <adamb> jnkq: : what?
[20:29] <Nickui> http://www.kde.org/info/4.0.php I'm here do i have to download all files seperatly?
[20:29] <jjgy> sory, jnkq, 8800gt
[20:30] <jnkq> but in limited mode
[20:30] <jjgy> it's only supported in beta drivers
[20:30] <amenado> lmosher-> what kind of system do you have? i386 32 bit?
[20:30] <adamb> So anyway I can have flash plugin on 64bit?
[20:30] <lmosher> amenado, It's a core duo
[20:30] <Starnestommy> adamb: try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[20:30] <tim1> Starnestommy: thanks
[20:30] <lmosher> amenado, Laptop, sata hard disk
[20:30] <adamb> for 64bit?
[20:31] <madman91> hey guys
[20:31] <Starnestommy> adamb: yes
[20:31] <jjgy> adamb, yeah, there's a 64bit I believe
[20:31] <amenado> lmosher-> you looked at dmesg and see if you can gleam anything regarding detection of your hd ?
[20:31] <madman91> In general, is it ok to overwrite previous installations of a program by simply "make install"'ing over the old ones?
[20:31] <madman91> with new ones
[20:31] <soho> is there a way to disable the virtual desktops in ubuntu. i only need on instead of 2 or 4
[20:31] <lmosher> amenado, Not, I didn't check for that.
[20:32] <amenado> madman91-> you made your own Makefile?
[20:32] <visik7> anyone can suggest me a good mp3 player compatible with ubuntu ?
[20:32] <madman91> amenado: No, I mean in cases where I install programs from source, can I install a new version over the old one without make uninstalling the oold one?
[20:32] <madman91> old*
[20:33] <Skiessi> MasterScript, open up terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install darksnow"
[20:33] <lmosher> amenado, But I wouldn't be surprised if there was an error. The important thing: is there a more reliable livecd that doesn't blow as much chunks as the gparted one, but still offering linux partition resizing?
[20:33] <jjgy> visik7: banshee, exaile, rythmbox and amarok are all good
[20:33] <amenado> madman91-> it really depends on how the Makefile target is doing it, checks for existing and remove, or just install on top of existing
[20:33] <madman91> amenado: Ok, thanks!
[20:33] <jjgy> my favorite is amarok, but its' for kde.. exaile is almost as good though
[20:33] <Skiessi> MasterScript,  are you there? :o
[20:34] <jjgy> so any ideas on getting ubuntu installed with an 8800gt?
[20:34] <GSMX> why can't i install vmware player in 7.10 with an i386 arch?
[20:34] <amenado> lmosher-> i tried other livecd distro, they seem to work okay, i dont know if they include gparted
[20:34] <randoman> hey guys, I know this may not be the channel. But im sure alot of people know. But if I wanted to run sli. Could I have a 8800 gt at 660/1900 work with a 8800 gt that is 600/1800. Does the other card downclock? Or are they incompatible
[20:34] <randoman> ?
[20:35] <Starnestommy> GSMX: how are you trying to install it?
[20:35] <GSMX> add/remove, apt-get, synaptic
[20:35] <GSMX> all didn't work
[20:35] <randoman> or do they runn at there own speeds?
[20:36] <jjgy> random, are you able to run ubuntu with your 8800 gt?
[20:36] <randoman> yes
[20:36] <randoman> I am right now
[20:37] <chdst> randoman: The more powerful card will downclock, and the two cards will work together. This isn't true for older drivers, but the current drivers in the Ubuntu repos will do it.
[20:37] <Starnestommy> GSMX: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware ?
[20:37] <randoman> ok
[20:37] <jjgy> I'm having some trouble getting ubuntu installed with my 8800, could you give me some pointers?
[20:37] <randoman> so they do down clock
[20:37] <randoman> im goign to match them up to be exact
[20:37] <randoman> I just wanted to clear that up
[20:37] <randoman> I wasnt sure
[20:37] <echinos> ok, so next question: is there a command line tool to write a new sources.list if I give it the mirror to use?
[20:37] <echinos> I guess I could use sed or something
[20:38] <GSMX> Starnestommy: it's not updated since 7.04
[20:38] <GSMX> (and under 7.04 i could install vmare)
[20:39] <Skiessi> echinos, of course you could open /etc/apt/sources.list in gedit and add the mirror by yourself
[20:39] <Skiessi> *can
[20:40] <Starnestommy> GSMX: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[20:40] <echinos> Skiessi: yes, but I'm too lazy for that. I'll do it if I have to, of course, I'm just looking for a "better way" ;)
[20:40] <MasterScript> -bash: ./sc_serv: No such file or directory <--- not working. the file a there
[20:40] <erUSUL> echinos: sed 's/oldisocode/newisocode/' sources.list > newsources.list  ??
[20:41] <echinos> Yeah, that's what I was thinking
[20:41] <echinos> of course, I'd have to put the mirror name in quotes or something
[20:41] <stephans> I just installed alpha 4... still no way to join a windows domain like SUSE?
[20:42] <chdst> echinos: A slightly more drastic solution is to break up your sources.list file into smaller files, and put them all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:42] <chdst> echinos: Then you can just overwrite the file containing your netselect mirror whenever you want, update, and go.
[20:42] <Skiessi> echinos, try "echo "the line you want to add" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" that will work too
[20:43] <stephans> I just installed alpha 4... still no way to join a windows domain like SUSE?
[20:43] <Skiessi> what alpha 4?
[20:43] <echinos> Skiessi: I want to replace all the instances of the old mirror
[20:43] <Skiessi> o_O ok
[20:43] <echinos> chdst: sounds like an idea :)
[20:43] <xomp> rwycuff, still no luck :(
[20:44] <echinos> chdst: so now all I need is a sources.list generator
[20:44] <echinos> doing it by hand is a pain
[20:44] <rwycuff> xomp:sorry man we tried
[20:44] <Malik_> is it possible to install compiz fusion on ubuntu gusty without internet?????
[20:44] <mark__> how do I enable vsync with a nvidia card?
[20:44] <xomp> rwycuff, yah, I've got to give everyone props for that :)
[20:44] <chdst> echinos: Right...that's a little simpler and safer, imo, than sed all the time...
[20:44] <templaedhel> ahhh! it says i have xorg 1.3
[20:44] <rwycuff> Malik_:i think its there by default just have to enable it
[20:44] <Skiessi> well you could use synaptic and the repositories thing in the menu
[20:45] <Malik_> donot i need cssm for that
[20:45] <Malik_> csm*
[20:45] <tiax> I just tried asigning WindowsKey+H to "show home dir" as a keyboard shortcut in GNOME. But when I press it, nothing happens. WindowsKey+T for "Start terminal" works, though. Why?
[20:45] <Malik_> rwycuff: donot i need ccsm for that?
[20:45] <xomp> rwycuff, I guess it's back to windows for me :( Thanks for all the help though and good luck with your work :)
[20:45] <rwycuff> xomp:you aint done yet i just gotta think more
[20:46] <mark__> anyone know I enabled vsync via the nvidia-settings but it does not seem to work.
[20:46] <Skiessi> Malik_, compiz fusion is installed in gutsy by default, but the extra cool stuff isn't enabled and you need to enable them with ccsm if you're going to use them and etfc
[20:46] <Malik_> rwycuff: i have internet on this computer but not on the on the machine that has ubuntu on it can u help me get the 3d effect wihtout internet??
[20:46] <xomp> rwycuff, lol ok, I posted it today on the ubuntu forums but nobody has replied to it. I guess I can finish this day out before resorting to windows.
[20:46] <rwycuff> Malik_:there should be something called desktop effect some place for it
[20:46] <Malik_> skiesse: ccsm is a file rite?
[20:46] <chdst> echinos: Take the mirrors you don't ever want to change and put them in /etc/sources.list.d/00permanent-mirrors, then make a little bash script or something to write out the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/01netselect-mirrors. The thing I'm not sure about is if the ".d" method will work while the /etc/apt/sources.list file is still in place.
[20:46] <Skiessi> ccsm is a program
[20:47] <Skiessi> you can run it with terminal or with a launcher or something
[20:47] <xomp> Malik_, compiz-fusion comes with gutsy but is limited. If you want to enable more of it's potential you will need internet access to download the ccsm package.
[20:47] <Malik_> skiesse: how do i get and run the ccsm file on ubuntu ?
[20:47] <BLusk> Is there some information on the difference between NIS-provided group information and locally-provided group information?  While I can sudo and the like based on the NIS group, many of the applets that rely on the admin group don't show in the menus when I am using the "admin" group as provided by NIS.
[20:47] <FlezZ> where can I get vdr-plugin-softdevice package?
[20:47] <Malik_> xomp: can't i download it on the no ubuntu computer and transfer it
[20:47] <Skiessi> Malik_,  open terminal. It's in the menu up there
[20:47] <Cann0n> flezz, did you try apt-get?
[20:47] <Skiessi> in accessories probably
[20:47] <templaedhel> how would i go about upgrading xorg?
[20:48] <Malik_> skiesse: yea
[20:48] <FlezZ> Cann0n, yes
[20:48] <Cann0n> Malik_, you get that wifi working yet?
[20:48] <Skiessi> then type ccsm
[20:48] <Malik_> can0n: no aim trying to get the 3d effct
[20:48] <Cann0n> flezz, did you enable all the sources for apt-get?
[20:48] <Malik_> ccsm alrite
[20:48] <FlezZ> Cann0n, yes I did
[20:48] <rwycuff> xomp:linux community isnt what it use to be cant get help no help with my ads stuff i posted to a forum then thier irc and the guy tells me to go to site that you gotta pay for comunity support then when he finds out i figured it out on my own he is ready to help
[20:48] <Skiessi> and then press enter :I
[20:48] <Malik_> iam not on ubuntu rite now but i will try these steps and noting them down rite now
[20:49] <Malik_> alrite...iam not dumb
[20:49] <noble-> Malik_, you will need to install ccsm, then check this link for the plugins you're wanting: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303
[20:49] <Cann0n> Malik_, yeah u need compizconfig--setting-manager
[20:49] <rwycuff> Malik_:stay on this channel till later and ill see if i can help but right now im at work
[20:49] <creativeembassy> can someone help me with my mbr?
[20:49] <Malik_> can0n: can u get me the firect link for it
[20:49] <creativeembassy> i had vista installed
[20:49] <Malik_> rwycuff: k
[20:49] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, it's like a call center here a lot of the time what with all the "wrong channel, join #can't-read-pdf-files for pdf issues lol :P
[20:50] <BLusk> Are there any NIS experts here?
[20:50] <creativeembassy> i shrunk the partition
[20:50] <Skiessi> Malik_, did danand send you a file?
[20:50] <creativeembassy> then tried to install 6.06 in the free space
[20:50] <rwycuff> xomp:not funnyi use to work in a call center
[20:50] <creativeembassy> now I'm dead in the water
[20:50] <xomp> rwycuff, me too lol, my fave thing to do was to push someone off to another dept :)
[20:50] <Malik_> skiesse: iam not sure
[20:50] <creativeembassy> when I reboot, I get the message "Missing Operating System"... is that from GRUB?
[20:50] <noble-> Malik_, you know how to use your package manager?
[20:50] <creativeembassy> is grub loading okay?
[20:50] <Malik_> skiesse: can u send me a new link to be sure
[20:50] <Cann0n> Malik_, once you get ccsm, just configure ur xorf.conf and your set.
[20:50] <Malik_> noble-: no
[20:51] <Malik_> can0n: i am new to ubuntu
[20:51] <Starnestommy> creativeembassy: I think it's from the BIOS not loading the bootloader
[20:51] <rwycuff> xomp:that wasnt my fav thing to do was just soo easy
[20:51] <Brent^> I'm installing Ubuntu 8.04 from inside Windows Vista and the window for the installer seems to have frozen up. It says "setup was completed succesfully" but the install progress bad is only about 2/3 there. Can I close the window or will this mess up the install?
[20:51] <MUS4SHIII> malik: It is easy to make changes after you get it installed with the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings program.
[20:51] <Cann0n> Malik_, i know, i was helping you yesterday.
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[20:51] <bercik> hello
[20:51] <Some_Person> Why cant I log in to Ubuntu Forums?
[20:51] <Cann0n> thanks you floodbot.
[20:51] <Skiessi> Malik_, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/compizconfig-settings-manager/compizconfig-settings-manager_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[20:51] <odysseybmx> anyone know of a good video converter?
[20:51] <noble-> Malik_, click System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[20:52] <odysseybmx> I need to convert .VOB to a format that'll play on my PSP
[20:52] <Cann0n> Some_Person, did you get the email to activate your account?
[20:52] <bercik> where in Ubuntu are saved configs of my extra keys of laptop?
[20:52] <chdst> Brent^: See #ubuntu+1 for 8.04 help
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[20:52] <Some_Person> Cann0n: I've been using Ubuntu Forums for years
[20:52] <Skiessi> put it on a usb memory and open it in ubuntu
[20:52] <Brent^> thank you
[20:52] <xomp> odysseybmx, PSP uses mp4 format
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[20:52] <Malik_> noble-: wats that stuff for?
[20:52] <MUS4SHIII> odysseybmx: mencoder is pretty standard
[20:52] <odysseybmx> xomp: yeah, that
[20:52] <odysseybmx> MUS4SHIII: I'll give it a shot
[20:52] <noble-> Malik_, that is your package manger, you can use it to search for, download, and install new packages
[20:52] <Cann0n> Some_Person, ok well, try in a few minutes. the might be doing updates or something.
[20:53] <xomp> odysseybmx, just make sure what ever converter you end up getting that it can support that :) you should be straight.
[20:53] <MasterScript> how to install shoutcast?
[20:53] <Malik_> noble-: i have no internet on my ubuntu machine yet
[20:53] <bercik> where in Ubuntu are saved configs of my extra keys of acer laptop?
[20:53] <Skiessi> noble-, Malik has no internet connection in the ubuntu pc
[20:53] <noble-> ohhhhh
[20:53] <Some_Person> Cann0n: the problem is that it says "thank you for logging in" then it throws me back to the previous page, not logged in
[20:53] <Cann0n> master_of_master, Amarok will play streams fro mshoutcast
[20:53] <noble-> sorry bout that, I missed that part
[20:53] <MUS4SHIII> odysseybmx: look through the package manager, there should be a gui for it somewhere if the shell stuff is a bit daunting.
[20:53] <Skiessi> malik_ did you get the file
[20:53] <Malik_> skiesse:yes
[20:53] <madman91> how can I compare what files are different in directory A and B (recursively). I've tried rsync -anv A B  .. but that doesnt work
[20:53] <Cann0n> Some_Person, what browsers are you using?
[20:54] <Skiessi> did you try to open it in ubuntu pc?
[20:54] <Malik_> skiesse: i am putting it on my usb flash now
[20:54] <Some_Person> Cann0n: Firefox 3 Beta 4
[20:54] <rwycuff> xomp:ifconfig | grep wlan0 <---- what is the out put of that
[20:54] <Cann0n> Some_Person, might be a problem with the settings,  plus it is a Beta...
[20:54] <bercik> would You fucking answer me?
[20:54] <jacob> how can i make my wireless work under the new beta?
[20:54] <Some_Person> Cann0n: I'll try with firefox 2, wait a sec
[20:54] <erUSUL> !patience | bercik
[20:54] <ubotu> bercik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:54] <Cann0n> bercik, watch the lang please
[20:54] <Malik_> skiesse: wats next?
[20:55] <jacob> i need someone's assistance
[20:55] <madman91> rwycuff: or grep wlan0 <(ifconfig)
[20:55] <ompaul> !language | bercik
[20:55] <ubotu> bercik: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:55] <Skiessi> does doubleclicking the package in ubuntu work?
[20:55] <Cann0n> bercik, what is your question?
[20:55] <bercik> where in Ubuntu are saved configs of my extra keys of acer laptop?
[20:55] <xomp> rwycuff, nothing heh
[20:55] <rwycuff> xomp:ifconfig | grep wlan0
[20:55] <Some_Person> Cann0n: hmm, it worked in ff2
[20:55] <Malik_> skiesse: ?
[20:55] <rwycuff> xomp:type it like that
[20:55] <Cann0n> bercik, WEP Keys?
[20:56] <MUS4SHIII> bercik: do you mean the Acer specific keyboard and function keys?
[20:56] <Cann0n> Some_Person, i had a problem with FF 3 Beta 4. i just went back to 2
[20:56] <xomp> rwycuff, it just takes me to the next line if that makes sense, almost as if the command didn't do anything
[20:56] <jacob> i need someone's assistance to install a new wireless driver
[20:56] <Some_Person> Cann0n: ff3 beta 3 worked on the forum
[20:56] <snmpee> Hi, one of my coworkers was using the ubuntu station I set up, and I don't know what he did but now the graphics settings are all messed up (completely unreadable) and I don't know how to reset them. I do know how to go into text mode, but don't know the command.
[20:56] <Skiessi> Malik_, :|  hmm do you have the usb disk open in ubuntu?
[20:56] <wubrgamer> how do I get ~/.xinit to work ?
[20:56] <Ashfire908> i'm trying to connect to vnc (tunneled through ssh) on a ubuntu computer which sits behind a router/gateway/modem from a windows computer (with direct access to the interent). how can i do this?
[20:56] <rwycuff> xomp:or as if there was nothing to grep
[20:57] <wubrgamer> err, ~/.xinitrc
[20:57] <jacob> i need someone's assistance to install a wireless driver.... anyone?
[20:57] <Starnestommy> snmpee: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[20:57] <Malik_> skiessi: i can't go to ubuntu rite now but the usb flash disk does open in buntu
[20:57] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah :)
[20:57] <erUSUL> snmpee: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[20:57] <Starnestommy> jacob: what kind of wireless card?
[20:57] <yowshi> '!compatability mode
[20:57] <rwycuff> xomp:your wirelesss does it still show up under ifconfig as wlan0
[20:57] <yowshi> !compatability mode
[20:57] <Malik_> skiessi: like i said iam noting down ur steps
[20:57] <Malik_> skiessi: the next step would be to put the file on the deksop...and open up the termina;
[20:58] <Skiessi> yes
[20:58] <Malik_> skiessi: thats as far as i can predict now u gotta tel me wat to do
[20:58] <xomp> rwycuff, I have roaming mode disabled and it doesn't show up in ifconfig anymore, but I'm pretty sure if I enable roaming mode it will show up as eth0:avah
[20:58] <rwycuff> Malik_:this box thats online is it a windows pc or linux box
[20:58] <jacob> Starnestommy it's a broadcom , something like that
[20:58] <yeonhoo> on /usr/src folder I have only linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386 folder i want to add generic. how can i do this? i already installed from synaptic but nothing happens
[20:58] <Cann0n> bercik, what kind of keys? WEP keys, passwords, buttons on the keyboard?
[20:58] <Malik_> skiessi: iam on a vista computer rite now thats y i find ubuntu so hard
[20:58] <rwycuff> xomp:last night someone said you had it as wlan0
[20:59] <Malik_> rwycuff: vista thats y i find this so hard
[20:59] <Malik_> skiessi: wat now?
[20:59] <xomp> rwycuff, yeah, it shows up as wlan0 most of the time, but a few times I've seen a 'eth0:avah' before too hah
[20:59] <yeonhoo> on /usr/src folder I have only linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386 folder i want to add generic folder. how can i do this? i already installed from synaptic but nothing happens
[20:59] <rwycuff> Malik_:oh im so sorry why not just hook the ubuntu up to the net
[20:59] <Skiessi> then type "ls" it lists the files and folders in your home folder
[20:59] <snmpee> erUSUL thanks, that was very helpful.
[20:59] <bercik> Cann0n, volume up/down, monitor brightness, sound mute/unmust (they are part of keyboard)
[20:59] <jacob> Starnestommy i already have the files for the driver, the sys, inf, and bins. i just can't seem to acess the graphical hardware list
[20:59] <Malik_> rwycuff: thats would be very hard since i would need to go wilressly
[21:00] <Starnestommy> jacob: does it show up in the output of lspci?
[21:00] <Skiessi> you should go to the desktop folder
[21:00] <xomp> rwycuff, wlan0 shows up if I "iwconfig" but nothing is showing up when I "ifconfig"
[21:00] <rwycuff> xomp:eth0:avah isnt nothing its just lik a virtual lan and has never been assosiated with your wireless
[21:00] <madman91> how can I compare what files are different in directory A and B (recursively). I've tried rsync -anv A B  .. but that doesnt work
[21:00] <jacob> starnestommy, i'll give it a shot
[21:00] <b47619> !hardy
[21:00] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:00] <rwycuff> Malik_: no extra ports to plug it in
[21:00] <Cann0n> bercik, i don't know. ubuntu auto detected mine. i will look into it for you.
[21:01] <L7> !
[21:01] <Skiessi> Malik_, did you get my last messages?
[21:01] <L7> oops
[21:01] <Malik_> rwycuff: wat?
[21:01] <Malik_> skiesse; no..
[21:01] <Malik_> skiessi; no*
[21:01] <Skiessi> Malik_, then type "ls" it lists the files and folders in your home folder
[21:01] <rwycuff> Malik_:i take it you have no router or switch to connect it to
[21:01] <bercik> Cann0n, it is automatically detected at my leptop too, but i want to know:)
[21:01] <gmachine24> How/where do I adjust the sensitivity of the 'mousepad' on my laptop/notebook? If I breathe on it it reacts and it's driving me crazy.
[21:01] <wubrgamer> so xinitrc still isn't working
[21:01] <Skiessi> Malik_, you should go to the desktop folder (the name is Desktop in English version)
[21:01] <jacob> starnestommy, it's a bcm4312
[21:02] <gmachine24> I am using 7.10.
[21:02] <rwycuff> xomp:what compnay did you work for at a call center for
[21:02] <Cann0n> bercik, oh, um let me find out. i wouldnt mind knowing that either lol
[21:02] <Malik_> skiessi: hold on a sec
[21:02] <xomp> rwycuff, affiliated computer services :S or more commonly known as ACS
[21:02] <bercik> Cann0n, i am seachinng in /etc/X11
[21:02] <jacob> Starnestommy, i have the files from the last version of ubuntu, 7.10
[21:02] <Malik_> Skiessi: where do i type "ls"
[21:02] <Skiessi> in the terminal
[21:03] <rwycuff> xomp:wow never ehard of them
[21:03] <Malik_> rwycuff: its not that the driver and all the problem
[21:03] <jacob> Starnestommy, those sys, inf and bin files should work correct?
[21:03] <XB23> are there any ways to speed up apaches performance on ubuntu, as my pages are slow to display?
[21:03] <xomp> rwycuff, they stink, I was promoted to a domain admin and was shortly laid off because they're doing terrible financially :P
[21:03] <jacob> starnestommy i got from the lenovo website
[21:03] <prem> i have an internet connection with a bandwidth of 2 mbps , but it reduces to 20 kbps when i download updates
[21:03] <echinos> Is it silly of me to want to use a close mirror when I need to install 200MB of packages?
[21:04] <Skiessi> Malik_, do you have English version of Ubuntu? It would make this a lot easier?
[21:04] <Skiessi> *easier.
[21:04] <Starnestommy> jacob: I think those should work with ndiswrapper, but if they fail https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy might help
[21:04] <XB23> hey xomp: what does a domain admin do exactly
[21:04] <prem> whats the problem
[21:04] <adac> can someone help me? on client side I get PXE-T01: File not found ...i really don't know what is wrong
[21:04] <prem> are the servers so busy
[21:04] <rwycuff> xomp:yeah i was premoted to what they shoulda just called jack or well pretty much everything then i had to leave when i couldnt take no more
[21:04] <Cann0n> bercik, /etc/default/acpi-support i think
[21:04] <Malik_> skiesse: i g2g
[21:04] <Skiessi> Malik_,  ok :D
[21:04] <Skiessi> cya
[21:05] <gmachine24> Anyone know how to adjust the sensitivity of a notebook mousepad?
[21:05] <Ashfire908> i'm trying to connect to vnc (tunneled through ssh) on a ubuntu computer which sits behind a router/gateway/modem from a windows computer (with direct access to the interent). how can i do this?
[21:05] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to get pidgin to highlight lines where I'm being addressed specifically?
[21:05] <Skiessi> gmachine24, the same way as any mouse?
[21:05] <xomp> XB23, I was a windows domain admin. Worked primarily with group policy and user access/group permissions. I had several domain trusts in which I would work in as well so I actually administered 4 domains, 2 of which where physically mine (on site)
[21:05] <Cann0n> bercik, /etc/acpi/
[21:05] <gmachine24> Skiessi, yes that is what I am attempting now.
[21:05] <waylandbill> gmachine24: gsynaptics package may help
[21:06] <XB23> ahh
[21:06] <jacob> starnestommy, i followed those directions in ubuntu 7.10 and it didn't work, i tried the ndiswrapper, and i prefer the ndiswrapper
[21:06] <Centaur5> Can you enable multiverse during a new installation in order to get extra packages?
[21:06] <gmachine24> waylandbill: pardon my ignorance, but is that an add-on package I need to install?
[21:06] <rwycuff> XB23:Asking what a domain admin does is a wide question to ask cause it could really be anything
[21:06] <bercik> Cann0n, yes, i think it is in /etc/acpi, thank You
[21:06] <jacob> starnestommy, the fwcutter doesn't work on my laptop
[21:06] <Starnestommy> jacob: I'm not sure what to do.
[21:06] <Cann0n> bercik, no problem dude
[21:07] <LOGAN> why are ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu diffterent projects? cant they make one that has all windows managers included?
[21:07] <waylandbill> gmachine24: yes through package manager
[21:07] <Skiessi> LOGAN, they wouldn't fit on a cd then
[21:07] <bercik> Cann0n, sorry for my violence lanuage before, i was a little angry:)
[21:07] <LOGAN> well what about a DVD
[21:07] <LOGAN> :)
[21:07] <void^> LOGAN: that's already the case - they all use the same repositories. the only difference is the default software package shipped on the cd.
[21:07] <rwycuff> xomp:what did you do to get the wlan0 to show up
[21:07] <adac> can someone help me? on client side I get PXE-T01: File not found ...i really don't know what is wrong
[21:07] <Skiessi> :P I have only one PC with a dvd drive
[21:07] <stony> reba mcentire is looking good!
[21:07] <puffy-san> is there anyone here with ubuntu laptop with GMA X3100 running Blender 3D?
[21:08] <waylandbill> gmachine24: this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:08] <Cann0n> bercik, no problem. the admins around here sometimes ban people for stuff like that. and, i hate being banned. ;)
[21:08] <stony> ooops
[21:08] <bercik> Cann0n, :)
[21:08] <jacob> starnestommy, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   bcm43xx is already blacklisted by default, it looks like there is a different driver that is replaced from the bcm43xx driver, how can i find the name of that driver?
[21:08] <LOGAN> I would love to be able to switch from U to K to X in a boot :)
[21:08] <jacob> starnestommy, i'll double check my blacklist file
[21:09] <Cann0n> jacob, you need the driver for your broadcom. should be in a dvd that came with ur laptop
[21:09] <Skiessi> LOGAN, in a boot? what do you mean?
[21:09] <LOGAN> well switch between a windows manager easy
[21:09] <MUS4SHIII> jacob: have you already checked in your restricted drivers app?
[21:09] <LOGAN> without popping in another disc
[21:09] <Cann0n> LOGAN, ubuntu is made to be simple. some people prefer KDE, some prefer gnome, some like fluxbox. its all about taste.
[21:10] <MasterScript> why like this -bash: ./sc_serv: No such file or directory ?
[21:10] <jacob> Cann0n, i downloaded it from lenovo site and it worked fine with ubuntu 7.10
[21:10] <Skiessi> LOGAN, of course you can install all the desktops and switch them by logging out from one and logging in to another
[21:10] <jacob> MUS4Hlll yes
[21:10] <LOGAN> ah i see
[21:10] <Cann0n> jacob, did you restart ndiswrapper or your  computer?
[21:10] <LOGAN> just seems like a cool thing to have
[21:10] <LOGAN> I never can decide what to get :)
[21:10] <jacob> Cann0n , from what i remember, yes
[21:11] <MasterScript> hmm
[21:11] <waylandbill> LOGAN: you can even start another session and switch between them on the fly.
[21:11] <Skiessi> "sudo apt-get install gnome kde xfce4" :D
[21:11] <MUS4SHIII> jacob: tried ndiswrapper yet?
[21:11] <MasterScript> can anybody help me pls
[21:11] <Skiessi> but there's a lot to download
[21:11] <WAKD> MasterScript what's the problem?
[21:11] <jacob> MUS4Hlll, yes i tried that
[21:11] <e_r_c_e> hello, on witch ports does run samba file sharing?
[21:12] <jacob> MUS4Hlll, i applied 99 updates, would the updates make it work?
[21:12] <MUS4SHIII> hmm.. I had a problem with my broadcom a while ago, but after I installed 7.10 the restricted driver just took care of it.
[21:12] <Cann0n> LOGAN, some WM's are harder to use than others. i'd stick to gnome or kde if i was you.
[21:12] <MUS4SHIII> jacob: did you apply the updates after the blacklist?
[21:12] <waylandbill> e_r_c_e: 139
[21:12] <e_r_c_e> only?
[21:12] <WAKD> I have to say that XFCE is lovely but it's a pain to setup all the menus - mind you whatever happened to enlightenment?
[21:13] <MasterScript> WAKD: I want run shoutcast on my ubuntu. i download linux version of shoutcast. file config is ready. when ./cs_serv ---> -bash: ./sc_serv: No such file or directory
[21:13] <waylandbill> e_r_c_e: yes.
[21:13] <Cann0n> jacob, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[21:13] <e_r_c_e> ok
[21:13] <e_r_c_e> thx
[21:13] <WorkingOnWise> when a cpu gets to hot, does ubuntu automatically throttle it back ? I have the cpu panel applet on, and have configured it to let me manually pick the cpu speed, but when I do, nothing changes, and it stays at 50%
[21:13] <jacob> MUS4Hlll bcm43xx is already blacklisted by default, the network settings reports that is it detected, so there must be another driver that replaced bcm43xx
[21:13] <Piffer> help please. How would I see which device drivers are loaded for my network interfaces?
[21:13] <Cann0n> master_of_master, you can play shoutcast streams with amarok. its much easier than compiling from source.
[21:13] <BlackChaos> today for some reason ubuntu has been freezing but not for a long time only for like a brief 2-5 seconds and im trying 2 watch a movie but because of this its getting annoying
[21:13] <ompaul> Piffer, lsmod
[21:14] <Piffer> thanks!
[21:14] <WAKD> BlackChaos I noticed that as well when I installed the xgl server and turned on compiz. switched all that off and now it works fine. also preload (apt-get install preload) will help.
[21:14] <MUS4SHIII> I'm not sure what to tell you. For me I unblacklisted the bcmxx driver after the updates and then installed the restricted drive and everything just worked. Even managed to get kismet working after that.
[21:15] <BlackChaos> yea i think eversince i turned compiz on this has been happening
[21:15] <orbisvicis> does pulseaudio for ubuntu come with the jack plugin ?
[21:15] <orbisvicis> anyone know
[21:15] <MasterScript> WAKD: so ?
[21:15] <orbisvicis>  /have installed it
[21:15] <Cann0n> BlackChaos, is your xorg.conf configured correctly?
[21:15] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to make pidgin highlight lines where I'm addressed specifically?
[21:15] <BlackChaos> wat is this preload and wat does it do
[21:15] <BlackChaos> hmm im new 2 linux so i have no idea wat xorg.comf is
[21:15] <Cann0n> MUS4SHIII, you'd have to find a plug-in for that, or make one yourself.
[21:16] <BlackChaos> ive only been using linux 4 about 4 days now
[21:16] <Skiessi> BlackChaos, why do you need to know what xorg.conf is?
[21:16] <MUS4SHIII> Cann0n: I'll look around for a plugin then. Thanx.
[21:16] <WAKD> the xorg.cong file resides in /etc/X11
[21:16] <Brent^> I installed Ubuntu but when I try to boot to it I dont get a GUI. All I see if a black window with some text telling me I can access comands by typeing 'help
[21:16] <BlackChaos> Skiessi: cause cannon asked me
[21:16] <Brent^> is their something I have to do to fix this?
[21:16] <WAKD> MasterScript try to slocate that file
[21:16] <crackintosh> Brent^: You might have installed ubuntu server
[21:16] <funkyHat> MUS4SHIII, there's a plugin for that called nicksaid... it's in one of the packages in ubuntu's repositories because I've got it installed
[21:16] <Cann0n> Skiessi, BlackChaos , i had to configure my xorg.cong to get compiz working right with other applications
[21:17] <crackintosh> Brent^: or the cd is still in the drive
[21:17] <WAKD> Brent looks like you are in busybox?
[21:17] <nikolas_> Hi all.
[21:17] <Brent^> dont know what busybox is
[21:17] <MUS4SHIII> funkyHat: you're the man, thanx.
[21:17] <BlackChaos> and how do i configure compiz
[21:17] <Skiessi> !info busybox
[21:17] <ubotu> busybox (source: busybox): Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 285 kB, installed size 516 kB
[21:17] <Cann0n> hence, the 3d graphics  and proper card settings
[21:17] <sercik> Hi to all!
[21:17] <WorkingOnWise> when a cpu gets to hot, does ubuntu automatically throttle it back ? I have the cpu panel applet on, and have configured it to let me manually pick the cpu speed, but when I do, nothing changes, and it stays at 50%
[21:17] <WAKD> hey serick
[21:17] <nikolas_> I have trouble connecting to my wireless network (wep encrypted) after upgrading today to hardy beta
[21:17] <sercik> i have an intel core 2 duo should i use 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[21:17] <Skiessi> hi serick
[21:18] <nikolas_> any bugs reported on that ?
[21:18] <Skiessi> *hi sercik
[21:18] <BlackChaos> WAKD: i just installed preload now wat do i do
[21:18] <atlef> !hardy heron | nikolas_:
[21:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:18] <WAKD> BlackChaos - you need to check the guide for that mate http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[21:18] <Hounma> I Got problem with my Sound, the main LineOut is not working, I need to change the sound to other lineout Does anyone know what to do ?
[21:19] <atlef> !ubuntu+1 | nikolas_:
[21:19] <ubotu> nikolas_:: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:19] <BlackChaos> WAKD: thx
[21:19] <Skiessi> nikolas_, please ask hardy stuff in #ubuntu+1 this channel is kinda busy with the other versions
[21:19] <Hounma> I Got problem with my Sound, the main LineOut is not working, I need to change the sound to other lineout Does anyone know how to do that ?
[21:19] <nikolas_> oh ok sorry,off to ubuntu+1 then
[21:19] <WAKD> BlackChaos - preload will help speed things up - just leave it along for now - it needs a little while to work out your usage patterns and start helping
[21:20] <Cann0n> master_of_master, did you try simply clicking on the shoutcast links t osee if they'd work?
[21:20] <BlackChaos> w8 but i didnt start it i just installed it with the command u gave me
[21:20] <claude> i get  already 8.04
[21:20] <WAKD> BlackChaos - if you are using an ATI card like I am you are in for a lot of fun! :-)
[21:20] <carlos_mardoque> oi alguem sabe como instalar o noip
[21:20] <xImortal> ;)
[21:20] <claude> upgrade server
[21:20] <xImortal> [agatha] lol
[21:20] <claude> 1 st
[21:21] <BlackChaos> WAKD: no i am just using the standared on board graphics that came wit my dell :(
[21:21] <Cann0n> WAKD, nah, im on an ATI Radeon 9100 IGP and it works great.
[21:21] <BlackChaos> WAKD: wow can u give me a place 2 start cause this guide is huge
[21:21] <WAKD> BlackChaos - really? what card is on board? Seach the guide for 'compiz' (alt-f in firefox)
[21:21] <Cann0n> BlackChaos, type "lspci | grep VGA"  and tell me what it says
[21:21] <wubrgamer> how do I, like....edit GDM's start up script for openbox ?
[21:21] <gmachine24> waylandbill: I installed gsynaptics and set the SHMConfig to "true" in my xorg.conf file as my computer tells me to do when I click on "touchpad" under system>preferences but the error message repeats even after adding the necessary line in the xorg.conf file. I also tried setting that line to "yes" (as per the instructions on the link you sent me and still it does not work.
[21:22] <wubrgamer> where is it located is my real question
[21:22] <WAKD> Cann0n - really? I have the devil of a time with my 1900 series card... :-)
[21:22] <BlackChaos> Cann0n: ok hold on
[21:22] <stiffler> hi
[21:22] <gmachine24> on a brighter note, just fooling with the 'mouse' settings seems to have solved the problem.
[21:22] <Cann0n> WAKD, lemme see if 1900 works right wit hit. some ATI cards dont support full 3d and all that good stuff. :(
[21:22] <stiffler> can I install this new theme from hardy on gusty?:>
[21:22] <Hounma> Where does the sound Lineout options can be found ?
[21:23] <Cann0n> Hounma, double click the volume icon in the tray
[21:23] <WAKD> Cann0n yeah - still I have my Wintel for my games and my main machines with Debian/Ubuntu for the fun stuff. :-)
[21:23] <BlackChaos> Cann0n: here is wat it says 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[21:23] <MUS4SHIII> MUS4SHIII: test
[21:24] <WAKD> Actually - anyone got any recommendations for a sound card purchase that isn't going to be a pain to get working right with Ubuntu?
[21:24] <Cann0n> WAKD, yeah 1900 are unsupported. :( i bet that was a choir
[21:24] <Hounma> Cann0n except for the Icon is there any other way to edit the sounds options ?
[21:24] <WAKD> Cann0n yeah if was a chore but it was a lot of fun! :-)
[21:24] <wubrgamer> anybody ?
[21:24] <WAKD> Hounma there are command line configs you can use - ALSA right?
[21:24] <Cann0n> Hounma, try searching for alsaconfig or something along those lines
[21:24] <ere4si> wubrgamer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530455 - will give some clues
[21:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> affili.net reflink?
[21:25] <Skiessi> !info openbox
[21:25] <ubotu> openbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.4-1 (gutsy), package size 231 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[21:25] <wubrgamer> thanks?
[21:25] <linux_noob> hi guys
[21:25] <WAKD> heya
[21:25] <linux_noob> at least welcome me to the world of xxubuntu
[21:25] <Hounma> you mean alsamixer..
[21:25] <Hounma> installed it allready..
[21:25] <linux_noob> oh man..it looks so simple..like i'm in win 98 days
[21:25] <[WTC]Am> heuu does Ubuntu and Debian are new windows system ????
[21:25] <WAKD> no alsaconfig will allow cmd line editing of settings.
[21:26] <linux_noob> and here i'm running it on a core duo -2.2 ghz+2gb ram
[21:26] <WAKD> You can install any window manager you want [WTC]Am.
[21:26] <Parsec300> linux_noob, Hi
[21:26] <Skiessi> [WTC]Am, what?
[21:26] <ere4si> wubrgamer: that is a link to the ubuntu forums where you're quest was asked and solved
[21:26] <wubrgamer> thank
[21:26] <WAKD> linux_noob - what do you want it to do? :-)
[21:26] <linux_noob> xbuntu is cool
[21:26] <wubrgamer> that rocks
[21:26] <wubrgamer> I think I just had a case issue
[21:26] <BlackChaos> Cann0n: wat else do i do i gave u the info u wanted
[21:26] <WAKD> *runs off to install xfce* hehehe
[21:27] <linux_noob> nope..got pissed off with the crashing of kubuntu
[21:27] <Cann0n> BlackChaos, im searching the forums
[21:27] <ksut> is there anyway to share my cd drive over nfs? I'd like to be able to share my cd drive with my mac, and I have other nfs shares accessible on the mac from my linux box, but I can't seem to find a way to get the cd drive to export
[21:27] <BlackChaos> oh ok srry
[21:27] <sachael> hi, can anyone tell me if the program "testdisk" is included in the ubuntu livecd? if not, can i install it in it for the session (need to fix some partitions)?
[21:27] <WAKD> sachael gparted should do ya?
[21:28] <[WTC]Am> ok, but doe's Ubuntu, Debian, Linux and all those names are the next Microsoft Windows Operating systeme ?? Because i heard a lot of good comment on them
[21:28] <sachael> WAKD: no, my partition table is kind of screwed, gparted doesn't detect it
[21:28] <MUS4SHIII> MUS4SHIII: testing nicksaid
[21:28] <Cann0n> BlackChaos, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593997
[21:28] <WAKD> sachael - but your able to boot?
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sachael, sudo fdisk-l
[21:29] <Skiessi> [WTC]Am, http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[21:29] <BlackChaos> Cann0n: k chking out right now
[21:29] <linux_noob> did someone say microsoft windows... windows is going to be shutdown..storm of desktop linux is coming
[21:29] <WAKD> [WTC]Am Ubuntu is based on Debian which is a falvour of GNU Linux, Linux is the kernel, everthing else is GNU ;-)
[21:30] <fgaughan> hello everyone!
[21:30] <WAKD> hey mate
[21:30] <odysseybmx> I need a GUI .vop to mp4 converter
[21:30] <odysseybmx> *.vob
[21:30] <[WTC]Am> arrghh i hate you, ur so polite ^^
[21:30] <odysseybmx> me?
[21:31] <Skiessi> omg simple.wikipedia.org is so oversimplified
[21:31] <jengelh> Why is it that (almost) all Ubuntu versions are X.04 or X.10?
[21:31] <WAKD> VLC should be able to stream VOB to MP4
[21:31] <BlackChaos> Cann0n: no the problem is not wit the effects the effects work fine the problem is that the os has been freezing on me 4 a brief 3-5 seconds but it is stating 2 annoy me
[21:31] <jengelh> is that some kind of base-5 encoding?
[21:31] <odysseybmx> VLC can do it?
[21:31] <MUS4SHIII> MUS4SHIII: TEST
[21:31] <MUS4SHIII> MUS4SHIII
[21:31] <[WTC]Am> I knew what is Linux but i just want to know if you will cry out loud if i say that linux is a Microsoft software
[21:32] <fgaughan> i have a problem with config make install ..is it different on ubuntu?
[21:32] <odysseybmx> WAKD: VLC can convert it?
[21:32] <ompaul> !offtopic
[21:32] <WAKD> yeah VLC should be able to mate
[21:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:32] <templaedhel> im...having some troule with X... when i run X -version or w/e it says i have 1.3
[21:32] <Cann0n> BlackChaos, sounds like you needd to set up your xorg.conf. check into that on google. be sure to back it up and write down the command to undo it.
[21:32] <tim1> Is this a joke ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html
[21:33] <Cann0n> i gotta run right now. be back in a few.
[21:33] <Cann0n> later all
[21:33] <ere4si> jengelh: ubuntu is released every 6 months - year + april / oct so 8.04
[21:33] <WAKD> l8r Cann0n
[21:33] <fgaughan> i know apt-get install .. but the one i really want is about 12 versoins later!!!!
[21:34] <odysseybmx> WAKD: does it have to run through the whole video at 1x speed?
[21:34] <crackintosh> templaedhel: My X is completely fucked up right now. I just bought a 24" 1080P gateway monitor and im using embedded graphics. im totally fucked until i figure this one out.
[21:34] <Leetbumble> Here we go... I have a windows system that has a bad power fault. The hdd is still fine and i pulled it, plugged it into ubuntu and am backing up all the data for a recall to sony. Is it possible to make a vista install disk from the complete hdd so my reinstall (when/if) the laptop is returned is easier??? Thx!
[21:34] <sachael> ooops, i missed the lines: did anyone answer my question about testdisk on the livecd?
[21:35] <atlef> !partimage | Leetbumble:
[21:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partimage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:35] <WAKD> yeah it does odysseybmx
[21:35] <Skiessi> crackintosh, what graphics card you have?
[21:35] <WAKD> try googling 'vov to mp4 linux' and see what ya get too mte
[21:35] <crackintosh> 810i embedded graphics
[21:35] <Leetbumble> atlef: will that do what i need?
[21:35] <MUS4SHIII> Leetbumble: I just RMA'd some drives, I recommend the Shred command before sending it back to sony.
[21:35] <WAKD> Intel card crackintosh? heheh
[21:35] <odysseybmx> WAKD: can I set the resolution size as well?
[21:35] <crackintosh> I dont even think this computer has AGP to be honest
[21:35] <crackintosh> its a shitty office computer im using as a server
[21:36] <atlef> Leetbumble: it can do a cloning of the drive
[21:36] <WAKD> odysseybmx - no idea mate. I've not used it for VOB conversion - have a play... :-)
[21:36] <Parsec300> odysseybmx, I use handbrake on OSX. It works very well. There's a windows version as well. Perhaps use it with WINE?
[21:36] <Leetbumble> perfect thank you so much
[21:36] <WAKD> *loves his 20M connection*
[21:36] <Leetbumble> I knew the community could save me.
[21:36] <Parsec300> odysseybmx, the Linux version is command line only.
[21:36] <odysseybmx> Parsec: my Mac runs Panther sp O cam
[21:36] <ompaul> tim1, no it works - but there are ways to stop it - for instance a password on grub so you can't get at that at boot time and a good few other things also - every one of them gets closer to totally locking you out from your machine if you forget what you have done
[21:36] <odysseybmx> *so I can't use it
[21:36] <odysseybmx> and no luck under wine
[21:36] <WAKD> VLC isn't just command line...
[21:37] <WAKD> apt-get install vlc and check it out
[21:37] <odysseybmx> WAKD: he's talking about handbrake
[21:37] <atlef> Leetbumble: it is cli though, not gtk
[21:37] <MUS4SHIII> odysseybmx: if you are willing to play with Wine then Xillisoft is great stuff for converting .vobs to just about whatever you want.
[21:37] <WAKD> oh oops :-) soz
[21:37] <ompaul> tim1, depends on what level of security you need / can afford in your operating environment
[21:37] <Skiessi> crackintosh, and how it is fucked up right now? stretched picture or bad resolution or what?
[21:37] <ompaul> !language | Skiessi
[21:37] <ubotu> Skiessi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:37] <Leetbumble> atlef: thanks ill google the details.
[21:38] <atlef> good
[21:38] <Leetbumble> later all!
[21:38] <Saptrans> hi everybody. Has anybody tried new xorg-ati driver?
[21:38] <Parsec300> WAKD, I didn't know VLC was able to convert anything.
[21:38] <crackintosh> Skiessi: I reconfigured X, and it was working for a while, then after reboot, no picture.
[21:38] <WAKD> Saptrans - yeah I'm runing it on a X1950Pro 512MB card mate
[21:38] <xImortal> !language | xImortal
[21:38] <WAKD> Parsec200 - yeah you can stream the file and ask VLC to save it out to a different format..
[21:38] <xImortal> hauhau
[21:38] <crackintosh> Skiessi: so I have to run x config again
[21:39] <xImortal> :d
[21:39] <MUS4SHIII> MUS4SHIII: TEST MUS4SHIII
[21:39] <ompaul> !test
[21:39] <ubotu> Failed.
[21:39] <MUS4SHIII> sometimes things just don't work
[21:39] <WAKD> MUSASHII you okay mate? we're all getting those test messages! :-)
[21:39] <Skiessi> crackintosh, and what os version you have?
[21:39] <ompaul> MUS4SHIII we see you
[21:39] <kmarescares> hi ! can i heave kde4 with my fiesty without reinstaling system ?
[21:39] <WAKD> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right?
[21:39] <crackintosh> 7.10
[21:39] <MUS4SHIII> sorry all, I'm trying to get pidgin to highlight my nick for me
[21:40] <odysseybmx> doesn't work when you do it.
[21:40] <WAKD> going for a ciggy - brb
[21:40] <crackintosh> Skiessi: I can fix it, I just havent gotten around to it yet :-) thanks however :-)
[21:40] <Farhadix> how I can know a file uses what unicode ?
[21:40] <kmarescares> so i need 7.10 to get kde4 work?
[21:40] <mneptok> MUS4SHIII: feel free to create your own channel for testing
[21:40] <Vilne> Does anybody know how do I change the sound hole and configure ubuntu to read this hole as the main sound ?
[21:40] <Parsec300> By the way, do ATi cards always have trouble running Compiz and 3D like Google earth? I have no trouble running both with my nVidia card. Or is it just some ATi cards that have that?
[21:40] <Saptrans> WAKD: I just want to know is there 3d acceleration for radeon 9600 in this driver? I've tried to install it, but I couldn't get direct rendering
[21:40] <MUS4SHIII> mneptok: good idea thanx.
[21:40] <Skiessi> crackintosh, ok
[21:41] <Vilne> Does anybody know how do I change the sound hole and configure ubuntu to read this hole as the main sound ? (the green one is the main, I want the blue one to be the main)
[21:41] <WAKD> Saptrans - no I don't think it's supported mate. ATI's prop drivers are so hard to config right. It think only the HD cards from ATI are confirmed as 100% working.
[21:41] <WAKD> no I really am going for a ciggy. :-)
[21:41] <Skitzo> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 and after i get through the the loading this and starting this, the screen goes blank and grey lines appear across the screen changing to purple then fading to black, after that nothing responds, any ideas?
[21:41] <ompaul> MUS4SHIII, it won't
[21:41] <Farhadix> !FloodBot1
[21:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floodbot1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <MUS4SHIII> ompaul: what won't?
[21:42] <MUS4SHIII> how do I create a channel, I'm very new to IRC,
[21:42] <Vilne> Does anybody know how do I change the sound hole and configure ubuntu to read this hole as the main sound ? (the green one is the main, I want the blue one to be the main)
[21:43] <ompaul> MUS4SHIII, I was being funny       click on this ##mus4shiii
[21:43] <Saptrans> WAKD: Thanks.
[21:43] <MUS4SHIII> ompaul: I can't click on it, all I can do is highlight it.
[21:44] <Skiessi> rightclick it o_O
[21:44] <Skiessi> if something
[21:44] <ere4si> type /j #MUS4SHIII
[21:44] <Skiessi> that's good too
[21:45] <ompaul> MUS4SHIII, http://www.alphamonkey.org/gdp/files/gaim-manual-1.0/gaim-manual-html-1.0/ that is a manual read it and enjoy
[21:45] <principiante> saludos comunidad de ubuntu, podrian indicarme una aplicacion para crear salvapantallas?
[21:45] <MUS4SHIII> ere4si: thanks
[21:45] <Saptrans> Vilne: you'll need to edit alsa conf, but I don't know exactly how to do this
[21:45] <ere4si> k
[21:45] <templaedhel> how would one go about updating his fglrx driver?
[21:46] <tim1> Can some one shed some light here whats going on?   look,, $ ^[[A^[[A
[21:47] <ompaul> tim1, what are you talking about precisely?
[21:47] <[volk]> how do I set memory quota on a process?
[21:47] <ompaul> !es | templaedhel
[21:47] <ubotu> templaedhel: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:48] <Piffer> Does anyone know if the cheapo M$ usb GPS device work with Ubuntu?
[21:48] <tim1> ompaul: i have ssh to a machine and when i pres up on the prompt i get,     $ ^[[A^
[21:48] <subsume> tim1: that's how the up key registers. so what?
[21:48] <ompaul> [volk], you don't that is the function of the kernel and memory management - if you want to take it further please go and fork the linux kernel and see how many people help you  ;-)   (my guess is none)
[21:48] <linux_noob> what's the best torrent application for xubuntu?
[21:48] <Llewxam> anyone can tell me how to configure the lock button applet to work with xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver?
[21:49] <gamergod131> Hey guys, I'm having keyboard problems
[21:49] <WAKD> [volk] actually that would be an interesting project - I'll help out! :-)
[21:49] <subsume> gamergod131: you seem to be doing ok
[21:49] <catmistake> hola. Is there a PPC version of the Hardy Heron Beta?
[21:49] <subsume> [volk]: me too! let's kill linus!
[21:49] <gamergod131> Key board caps lock key doesn't respond when I enter my pass word when I screen lock
[21:50] <WAKD> [volk] xen and other VI stull do it so why can we write something directly to the kernel - even just to play and research :-)
[21:50] <tim1> subsume: that's not right, it should show the last run command
[21:50] <principiante> Excuse friends
[21:50] <gamergod131> nor does it now :(
[21:50] <subsume> tim1: its happening after login?
[21:50] <Skiessi> linux_noob, I use rtorrent but I think you prefer something else
[21:50] <Vilne> Does anybody know how do I change the sound hole and configure ubuntu to read this hole as the main sound ? (the green one is the main, I want the blue one to be the default)
[21:50] <[volk]> but thats basic security measure :S.. I want to prevent one process from allocating too much memory.. or maybe do it on per user basis. It sure should be possible
[21:50] <subsume> tim1: hmm. odd
[21:50] <[volk]> ompaul, WAKD subsume
[21:50] <WAKD> Azerus for torrents
[21:50] <eiki> would anyone be able to tell me if it's possible to merge two partitions on a hard drive using the ubuntu live cd?
[21:50] <WAKD> [volk] what?
[21:50] <Skiessi> azureus is just kinda heavy
[21:51] <WAKD> ktorrent?
[21:51] <gamergod131> can anyone help me? I'm using a logitech g15
[21:51] <tarkus> deluge is a great bittorrent client
[21:51] <MUS4SHIII> I like deluge too
[21:51] <tim1> what do i do if i don't know a password.  i.e sudo su backuppc
[21:51] <linux_noob> deluge or azureus?
[21:51] <atlef> as is transmission
[21:51] <tim1> subsume: very od
[21:52] <keithclark> Is there anyway to play video/x-msvideo avi files in ubuntu?  I've tried everything I could find in the forums with no luck.
[21:52] <tarkus> linux_noob, i have used both for a long time. and i now avoid azureus. deluge is faster, lighter, and gets the job done. its very good at one thing (downloading torrents)
[21:52] <WAKD> [volk] msg me privately and we'll discuss this offline from here. I'm just checking though the kernel hacking stuff I've collected.
[21:52] <ompaul> [volk], ehh do this type "memory management on linux explained" into google
[21:52] <Vilne> How do I change sound blue hole to be the main audio?
[21:53] <tarkus> linux_noob, but if you really want more from your client.. azureus is more configurable. at a cost of performance and heavyness..
[21:53] <templaedhel> so i run X -version and it says i have 1.3...how can tht ber right? i have gusty
[21:53] <linux_noob> is there any nice p2p sharing client for xubuntu which has a very large user base?
[21:54] <linux_noob> already started downloading deluge
[21:54] <WorkingOnWise> when a cpu gets to hot, does ubuntu automatically throttle it back ? I have the cpu panel applet on, and have configured it to let me manually pick the cpu speed, but when I do, nothing changes, and it stays at 50%
[21:54] <linux_noob> need some good p2p sharing client now
[21:54] <WAKD> FileSharing - go get a newzbin and giganews account then use SABnzbd+ :-)
[21:54] <catmistake> is there a PPC version of the Hardy Heron release?
[21:54] <jacob_> fwcutter is associated with ndiswrapper or do i need to use one of the two
[21:55] <ompaul> catmistake, not in the sources so far that I can see
[21:55] <jacob_> ...?
[21:55] <jengelh> it is not associated.
[21:55] <catmistake> ompaul: thx
[21:55] <noble-> Anyone know why I'm getting this error in help:  The requested page was not found in the document /usr/share/gnome/help/programming/C/programming.xml.
[21:55] <jacob_> jengelh, can you give help....
[21:55] <WAKD> noble- is it actuall there?
[21:55] <noble-> it's like the only page missing so far
[21:55] <linux_noob> the worst application in ubuntu is firefox, any doubt?
[21:55] <noble-> I'll check
[21:55] <linux_noob> it never slows much in windows
[21:56] <WAKD> linux_noob - slow? *boggles*
[21:56] <jacob_> jengeth, i need to install a bcm43xx wireless driver for ubuntu 8.04 beta
[21:56] <Naitse> Hi!, someone can tell me wy mi desktop is showed this way? http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8518/screenshotyb1.png
[21:56] <linux_noob> yep
[21:56] <WAKD> linux_noob 'apt-get install preload'
[21:56] <linux_noob> it's too slow
[21:56] <encryptz> how to get the meta keys to work with rxvt-unicode?
[21:56] <subsume> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[21:56] <Naitse> i got a gm965
[21:56] <wizo> hey, what do i download to get flash on firefox?
[21:56] <gamergod131> try resising the the panels naitse
[21:56] <linux_noob> what's preload?
[21:56] <ompaul> !flash | wizo
[21:56] <wizo> i tried the flash for mozilla but it didnt seem to work
[21:56] <ubotu> wizo: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:57] <linux_noob> WAKD: what's preload?
[21:57] <WAKD> preload will speed up your runtimes for apps. needs a little time to learn your habbits then just gets on with it
[21:57] <wizo> thanks ompaul
[21:57] <Naitse> gamergod131, but when i configure the my xorg.conf there is no change :S
[21:57] <headhunter_> hi
[21:57] <linux_noob> that's nice
[21:57] <linux_noob> lemme try that
[21:57] <WAKD> you need to give it some time
[21:58] <headhunter_> does anybody know where to find a .deb package for the newest monodevelop 1.0?
[21:58] <linux_noob> yep sure
[21:58] <noble-> no such file or directory.
[21:58] <WAKD> once installed to 'tail -f /var/log/preload.log' and it will show you what it's doing.
[21:58] <noble-> no even for /usr/share/gnome
[21:58] <computer13137> Hmm... I'm having problems with X server.  "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." How do I fix that error?
[21:59] <pretender_> Has anyone got a DVD Cover template for GLabels
[21:59] <WAKD> noble- are you using Gnome?
[21:59] <noble-> WAKD, yes
[21:59] <[volk]> WAKD, why kernel hacking if there is ulimit :P I knew there was some way of doing this
[21:59] <wizo> ompaul: i assume the guide works for 7.10 as well?
[21:59] <WAKD> computer13137 - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/x-user-not-authorized-to-run-the-x-server-aborting-512864/
[22:00] <computer13137> Wakd: thanks
[22:00] <WAKD> [volk] because kernel hacking is fun ;-)
[22:00] <Malik_> is it possible to setup compiz fusion on ubuntu gusty without internet on that machine?
[22:00] <WAKD> Mailk_ download the debs and install manually.
[22:00] <Malik_> o can u gimeme the link for em
[22:00] <Malik_> i donot know where to get em
[22:00] <noble-> WAKD, 2.20.1
[22:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, compiz is enabled by default if u have intel graphic chip
[22:01] <WAKD> noble- *ponders* you can't navgiate to /usr/share/gnome? *ponders*
[22:01] <Malik_> no
[22:01] <Malik_> iam tryin to get the cube effect
[22:01] <noble-> WAKD, yes
[22:02] <linux_noob> does preload start at booting..or need to run it somehow as root?
[22:02] <RaceKondition_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman tells me to create a transport map at /etc/postfix/transport, but that file/dir does not exist and I don't know if it should be a file or a folder.. the postmap -v /etc/postfix/transport does not whine in neither case..
[22:03] <WAKD> linux_noob if you apt-get installed it it will now be running mate. will start at boot from now on.
[22:03] <linux_noob> i did it through synaptic package manager
[22:03] <WAKD> RaceKondition_ have you actually for postfix installed and configures as your MTA ?
[22:03] <linux_noob> getting messages like this..
[22:03] <WAKD> if you have then touch it and configure...
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:31:46 2008] 1130810kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:32:07 2008] 1139440kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:32:28 2008] 1140640kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:32:48 2008] 1140040kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:33:09 2008] 1140040kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:03] <FloodBot2> linux_noob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <linux_noob> [Sat Mar 22 03:33:29 2008] 1140040kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it
[22:03] <dongdong> can someone suggest a good text browser?
[22:04] <noble-> WAKD, very odd, the file is right there, but it won't open when I'm using the "Help and Support" in ubuntu.
[22:04] <newtubuntu> I have a problem with disk space. I get a warning that my disk is full. When I use Disk Analyzer to check my disk space, it says I have 65Gb used vs. 225Gb free space. Same information in GPARTED. Except in Disk Analyzer, in the details window it says that my / is full, as well as all the partitions I've set up. But I know they are NOT full. Any clues, hints or help ?
[22:04] <tim1> can any one help me with backuppc ?
[22:04] <WAKD> lynx for text browsing
[22:04] <RaceKondition_> WAKD: yes, of course
[22:04] <linux_noob> how do i configure preload?
[22:05] <Skiessi> tim1, try asking the question
[22:05] <WAKD> linux_noob it's configured fine on install mate - leave it a while to get used to your habbits.
[22:05] <dennis> hello all
[22:05] <dongdong> can anyone suggest a good text browser?
[22:05] <tomthumb> hi
[22:05] <linux_noob> ok
[22:05] <WAKD> RaceKondition - then touch the file and configure it.
[22:05] <ompaul> wizo it actually does
[22:05] <Skiessi> dongdong I know only lynx
[22:05] <WAKD> lynx or even links :-)
[22:05] <RaceKondition> WAKD: yeah, I did that.. but since it also "worked" with a dir, I was confused
[22:05] <linux_noob> since me new to linux...I think i'm more worried than needed
[22:06] <pretender_> Does anyone know where i can download a DVD Cover template for GLabels
[22:06] <tim1> Skiessi:its not easy i have lots of stuf i don't understand.
[22:06] <tarkus> what do you guys think of this idea? let me know if you would use it if it was well implemented: http://dpaste.com/40492/
[22:06] <[ka]killer> hello
[22:06] <[ka]killer> one of my hdds is flaged with a cvs-conflict, what does this mean?
[22:06] <noble-> WAKD. must be a bug then right?
[22:07] <redheat> hi everyone
[22:07] <newtubuntu> any reason a disk would show as full when it's not ?  It seems like there is a difference between how I setup my / and /media partitions and the way they are being used...
[22:07] <WAKD> noble- or a config issue - but I'll be blowed if I can think why? *ponders* where's the error? in the gnome help app?
[22:07] <dongdong> Skiessi: ok will check it out cna it be installed through apt-get?
[22:07] <noble-> WAKD, I think so yes
[22:07] <tim1> if you can help me withh backuppc please join me on #timo
[22:07] <Skiessi> yeah
[22:07] <WAKD> newtubuntu - df -hi will tell if you you are out of inodes....
[22:07] <computer13137> I have a new problem now.... "/usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/kirk/.Xauthority"  How do I fix that?
[22:08] <newtubuntu> inodes ?
[22:08] <[ka]killer> where do i check what the cvs-conflict is?
[22:08] <newtubuntu> df -h tell me I have plenty of disk space
[22:08] <noble-> WAKD, this is a relatively fresh gutsy install, I havn't changed anything that would effect the gnome help.
[22:08] <dongdong> Skiessi: ok will check it out now thanx
[22:08] <WAKD> yeah inodes - just having lots of space doesn't mean you'll have enough inodes....
[22:08] <WAKD> noble- hmmm - I'm out of ideas here mate - sorry. *ponders*
[22:09] <noble-> WAKD,no worries
[22:09] <noble-> thanks though ;)
[22:09] <WAKD> newtubuntu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
[22:09] <newtubuntu> WAKD: where and how can I post you my df -h ?
[22:10] <yowshi> anyone know of a good substitute for vmplayer that can be installed on amd64 archetecture?
[22:10] <WAKD> newtubuntu - just opened a private dialog with you mate post there
[22:10] <newtubuntu> WAKD, I don't see it... sorry
[22:10] <WAKD> yowshi virtual box
[22:10] <sourcemaker> are there know nvidia problems in kubuntu gusty? when I play a opengl game... the systems often hangs... this problem also occured when the screensaver runs a long time
[22:11] <WAKD> !paste
[22:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:11] <WAKD> !paste newtubuntu
[22:11] <WAKD> !paste | newtubuntu
[22:11] <ubotu> newtubuntu: please see above
[22:11] <yowshi> thanks WAKD
[22:11] <Naitse> is there a way to uninstall ndiswapper via livecd?
[22:12] <Naitse> because my ubuntu gives me kernel panic
[22:12] <redheat> I have a question regarding installing Ubuntu on my system, but it's generally a linux question..I have a one Harddrive with a size of 320 GB, I have partitioned that harddrives into two primary partitions for my two window versions, one for windows xp and another for windows vista, each has been allocated a total of 125 GB, which leaves me with almost a 70 GB of free space. Now Im trying to install both opensuse 10.3 and ubuntu 7.10 in that free space, th
[22:12] <WAKD> Natise - boot to recovery kernel in GRUB
[22:12] <sourcemaker> how can I install Amarok 1.4.8
[22:12] <yowshi> vista??? eeeeeeew
[22:12] <tux97> hi
[22:12] <Naitse> whit recovery kernel gives me kernel panic too
[22:12] <WAKD> vista? *faints*
[22:12] <MasterScript> WAKD: can u help me install shoutcast step by step?
[22:12] <redheat> one should I partition the remaining space into two primary partitions, and then
[22:13] <WAKD> MasterScript - okay - I'll do it with you - create a channel and I will join.
[22:13] <yowshi> redheat that would be the logicsl conclusion
[22:13] <yowshi> logical*
[22:13] <redheat> repartitions them into "/" and "swap"  partitions..
[22:13] <newtubuntu> WAKD, here's my pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60458/
[22:13] <yowshi> though you only need 1 swap
[22:13] <MasterScript> WAKD: #ms
[22:13] <redheat> yowshi, should I use logical or primary, that's the point..
[22:13] <linux_noob> WAKD, are you sure preload is working? 1157000kb available for preloading, using 0kb of it ....the message goes on
[22:13] <yowshi> as i understand it redheat every linux can use the same swap
[22:14] <linux_noob> it's not using any of them
[22:14] <dubby> hey anyone who knows stuff about NetworkManager and vpnc, My work has me connect to a vpn and I have vpnc and the network manager plugin, They provide me with a vpn.pcf file to configure it, in the pcf it contains an encrypted group password.  When i try to connect though it asks for my group password. Which I only have in the encrypted block, If i try and put the encrypted line in, it fails, if i try and leave the area blank, NetworkManager cr
[22:14] <sansaro> hi guys
[22:14] <yowshi> redheat i used primary for every partition on this unibuntu install except swap and it worked fine
[22:14] <hdevalence> What plugin does FF need for application/x-director ?
[22:14] <WAKD> linux_noob - yeah it takes a little time mate. just leave it alone and it will start to work. promise! :-)
[22:14] <sansaro> i have Q : how i change the player prog on firefox from plyaer to real player for ( RM + Ram Format )
[22:14] <linux_noob> ok thanx
[22:14] <MasterScript> WAKD: #MS <--- see u there
[22:15] <WAKD> newtubuntu why have you got /var/lock and /var/un seperate?
[22:15] <redheat> so yowshi, what you think I should do with the left space?
[22:15] <WAKD> newtubuntu can you past your error too please
[22:15] <yowshi> 2 root paritions both logical and one swap
[22:15] <yowshi> err both primary
[22:15] <redheat> ok
[22:15] <sansaro> please i have Q : how can i change the player prog on firefox from plyaer to real player for ( RM + Ram Format )
[22:15] <sourcemaker> have you enabled the kubuntu backport repository or is it realy unsafe to do this?
[22:16] <newtubuntu> WAKD, I don't have the error, but Disk Usage Analyzer 'sees' my partitions as smaller than they are...
[22:16] <redheat> ok..
[22:16] <dubby> vpnc anyone?
[22:16] <newtubuntu> WAKD, so they show as 100% full, but in the summary line it says I'm only using 65Gb with 226Gb free...
[22:16] <dubby> vpnc help from anyone about encrypted stuffs
[22:16] <redheat> see basically three partitions, one of them is swap for the two OS' ..copy that..
[22:17] <yowshi> redheat yeah
[22:17] <redheat> yowshi..my friend thank you so much for your help my friend..totally appreciate it..
[22:17] <redheat> take care..bye
[22:17] <WAKD> newtubuntu - well that's odd because df is authoratiative on what is being used and now...
[22:17] <yowshi> redheat no problem let us know how it turns out
[22:17] <Ha1> hello, I have an Ubuntu 7.10 laptop with an internal sound card and a pcmcia audigy 2 zs soundcard, even though I set the output to multichannel in the audio settings, I still only hear the sound on the internal card in certain applications - how can I either set the default soundcard for all apps or make an application to use a certain sound card?
[22:18] <newtubuntu> WAKD, I have NO CLUE about /var/lock and /var/un, I didn't set this up, don't know what went wrong or when
[22:18] <jacob> how can i find the name of my driver so i can blacklist it?
[22:18] <jacob> wireless driver*
[22:19] <sansaro> i have Q : how can  i change the player prog on firefox from plyaer to real player for ( RM + Ram Format )
[22:20] <WAKD> newtubuntu I wonder whether since nothing else can now write to /var/run and /var/lock the app is have issues. *ponders* How are your disks partiioned - paste /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab please mate... anyone else btw?
[22:20] <ethand_> hi all
[22:20] <jacob> how can i find the name of my wireless driver so i can blacklist it in ubuntu 8.04
[22:20] <cens0red> good moaning
[22:20] <ethand_> anyone here familiar with cygwin/x  ?
[22:21] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> jacob, y u want to do that?
[22:21] <utarpradesh> hi, i'm trying to install libmp3lame.so.0 so i can export into MP3 files using audacity...
[22:21] <utarpradesh> :'( it's so complicated i don't know how to do it
[22:21] <utarpradesh> libmp3lame.so.0
[22:21] <joshrobinson> hi
[22:22] <newtubuntu> WAKD, how do I get my /etc/fstab to paste it ?
[22:22] <joshrobinson> gedit /etc/fstab
[22:22] <jacob> [Hardy]TuTuUXG i need to install an unsupported ubuntu wireless driver
[22:22] <WAKD> brb
[22:22] <WAKD> nano /etc/fstab or cat /etc/fstab
[22:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> utarpradesh, sudo apt-get install liblame-dev
[22:22] <jacob> that wasn't a good question
[22:23] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> jacob, lsmod?
[22:23] <redheat> yowshi, are you still t here
[22:24] <redheat> sorry my friend I hit bump while partitioning
[22:24] <linux_noob> any good music player for xubuntu?
[22:24] <Ha1> no sound experts here?
[22:24] <linux_noob> i cant see any text in xmms
[22:24] <linux_noob> only icons
[22:24] <newtubuntu> WAKD: here's my fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60462/
[22:24] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !totem | linux_noob
[22:24] <ubotu> linux_noob: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:24] <redheat> yowshi, are you there..
[22:24] <utarpradesh> hardyTuTUXG thank you :)
[22:24] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> utarpradesh, np
[22:25] <linux_noob> not totem plzz
[22:25] <linux_noob> you can't forward properly in that
[22:25] <redheat> guys, I would appreciate if someone can helpme with this problem?
[22:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linux_noob, just for the list
[22:25] <linux_noob> amarok was good
[22:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !exaile | linux_noob
[22:26] <ubotu> linux_noob: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:26] <newtubuntu> WAKD: and now my /etc/mtab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60463/
[22:26] <linux_noob> but anything lightweight will be cool
[22:26] <jacob> [Hardy]TuTUXG how do i know if a module is for the wireless?
[22:26] <linux_noob> i dont need many unecessary features
[22:26] <dongdong> do current websites work in text browsers such as lynx?
[22:26] <utarpradesh> how can i make my ipod compatible with ubuntu? what program can i use?
[22:26] <Marupa> dongdong, some do, some don't.
[22:26] <HinHin> dongdong, not well
[22:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> jacob, what wireless nic u have?
[22:26] <redheat> just trying to partition my 320 GB harddrive into 4 partitions, two 125 gb each for both my windows vista and xp, and another two, primaries for both opensuse 10.3 and ubuntu 7.10
[22:27] <jacob> [Hardy]TuTuUXG it's a broadcom
[22:27] <Marupa> What's the easiest way to find very large packages that are no longer needed, so I can uninstall them?
[22:27] <dongdong> Marupa, HinHin: ok just making sure cause i ahvent got a mouse any more or at least until tommorow if the shops open so i have to use text browser to surf the net :(
[22:27] <utarpradesh> is there a way to batch convert ogg files into mp3s using AUDACITY?
[22:27] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Jacob, altho i dont have a broadcom but try: lismod | wl
[22:27] <mi> can i do upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 with envy driver or i must first uninstall evny ?
[22:28] <Marupa> dongdong, I ssh all the time, so I'm used to it.
[22:28] <redheat> and when I was trying to create the last two, I hit a snag, the partitioning editor, gpart, said it can not partition more than four primary partitions leaving me no room for a swap partition what should I do
[22:28] <HinHin> dongdong, *pats*
[22:28] <utarpradesh> what can i use to manage my ipod in ubuntu??
[22:28] <utarpradesh> 7.10
[22:28] <Malik_> is it possible to get the compiz (the 3d cube) on gusty without internet on it...cause i can't get the internet to work on ubuntu yet????
[22:28] <KemrinH> I'm tring to find it, one sex utarpradesh
[22:29] <dongdong> HinHin: thanx but having to use the tab to move to the current section of a page is infuriating
[22:29] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, enable the livecd repo and sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:29] <jacob> [Hardy]TuTuUXG, I did an lshw, the last item says *-network DISABLED
[22:29] <redheat> can someone help me please?
[22:29] <dongdong> Marupa: how do you do it, saying that i need to learn to ssh can you teach me?
[22:29] <linux_noob> there is no sound icon in xubuntu
[22:29] <jacob> [Hardy]TuTuUXG, do you know how to enable it? thank you
[22:29] <Malik_> wat??
[22:29] <linux_noob> i need to increase volume
[22:29] <linux_noob> help
[22:29] <Marupa> dongdong, well, which parts do you need help with?
[22:30] <Malik_> can u gime me step by step insturcations on how to do that??4
[22:30] <KemrinH> How about  Hipo iPod Management Tool
[22:31] <Malik_> can some1 help me get compiz ( the 3d cube) on unbuntu gusty with out internet???
[22:31] <dongdong> Marupa: what about the whole thing, using actual shh, gaining an account, ive read online but its not helpful as they dont explain in a way that new comers will udnerstand
[22:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> jacob, so ubuntu doesnt have a driver for your wireless card yet?
[22:31] <Marupa> Well, first step is you have to have a server to connect to.  Next step, learn the command line.  It's very very easy.
[22:31] <linux_noob> how to increase sound volume in xubuntu? I dont see any icons there
[22:31] <dongdong> lol google just gave me one of those your request looks like something automated from a virus etc while using lynx thats funny
[22:32] <dubbydubby> anyone wanna help me with a vpnc configuration
[22:32] <utarpradesh> KemrinH thank you so much,  i will look at it:D ubuntu community is so great!
[22:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linux_noob, #xubuntu maybe a better place to get answers about xubuntu questions
[22:32] <dubbydubby> i am having an issue with NetworkManager can someone help
[22:33] <Hilikus> hey guys, i have a script in bash that calls a script in python. it works perfectly when run from a terminal, but when ran by cron it doesnt work, theres something wrong in the python script, it crashes. any idea what could be differente between running it from a terminal and from cron? only thing i know is PATH, but i doubt thats the problem
[22:33] <linux_noob> k
[22:33] <Marupa> Hilikus, make sure it's using bash.
[22:33] <phreaker> i was install solaris then i cant see ubuntu on grub loader what must i do
[22:33] <Hilikus> Marupa doesnt the shebang line make sure of that?
[22:33] <erUSUL> !grub | phreaker
[22:33] <ubotu> phreaker: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:34] <Marupa> Hilikus, right.  Most don't put it there when scripting.  Good for you.  Any particular error-prone line?
[22:34] <dongdong> Marupa: you could provide me with a site that explains ssh better so that i can learn to use it
[22:34] <Marupa> dongdong, google search for bash basics.
[22:35] <phreaker> no there is no windows .. solaris 10/6
[22:35] <Hilikus> Marupa well, i know it's not my bash script failing, its the python end, but thats a library i downloaded, im not sure i can trace it since i dont understand most of it
[22:35] <dubbydubby> I needs some NetworkManager vpnc help from someone please
[22:35] <dongdong> Marupa:  how i have believe me i have and im still at square one hmm well will learn to do things bit by bit
[22:35] <u235> hi folks, i'm familiar with redhat/fedora, but new to ubuntu.  is it possible to run a 32-bit kernel on an x64 install of ubuntu 7.10?
[22:35] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, http://www.openssh.org/ is pretty good
[22:36] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, check the manuals link
[22:36] <WAKD> u235 - why? *ponders* the rest of your system will be configured for x64... ?
[22:36] <Hilikus> i know its not a permission thing cause its roots cron job. what else is different when something is ran by cron??
[22:36] <dongdong> [Hardy]TuTUXG: yeah i checked that out already the problem is i ahvent got anyone to connect to and i ahvent got a server or a shell account :(
[22:36] <zechs_> is it possible to make an animated desktop background?
[22:37] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, then y do u need to learn ssh?
[22:37] <u235> WAKD: I have a user who wants to run a 32-bit kernel (claiming adobe flash issues are related to the 64-bit kernel).  I'd rather not have to pave his machine if possible.
[22:37] <Marupa> Hilikus, TERM?
[22:37] <xb3rt> zechs_: im sure it probably is with some sort of screenlet
[22:37] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !xwinwrap
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:37] <Hilikus> Marupa thats a env var?
[22:37] <loki22> hi everyone. Is the Irish repo mirror down? or are any others?
[22:38] <Marupa> Hilikus, yup  $TERM
[22:38] <dongdong> [Hardy]TuTUXG: boredom, wanted to do something new in ubuntu and it seems most people here use ssh so i thought why not learn to use it
[22:38] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> zechs_, head to #compiz-fusion and ask about xwinwrap
[22:38] <ogre> im trying to play mp3 in amarok. what package do i need?
[22:38] <phreaker> compiz is sufficient
[22:39] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, u could set up a ssh server and connect to it i guess
[22:39] <phreaker> but you must update compiz
[22:39] <erUSUL> u235: 32 bit kernel 64 bit userspace is a *no* *go*
[22:39] <WAKD>  u235 Urm - is a way to run Flash on 64 - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Flash_9_on_64_bits_system_.28x86_64.29
[22:39] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, im not expert on ssh tho
[22:39] <loki22> any one having problems with updating? any mirror I try won't work
[22:39] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !mp3
[22:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:40] <Hilikus> Marupa so you think that by just setting the var in cron it would behave differently?
[22:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !mp3 | ogre
[22:40] <ubotu> ogre: please see above
[22:40] <Marupa> Hilikus, I know that stuff that uses ncurses does vary a ton depending on the TERM.
[22:40] <dongdong> [Hardy]TuTUXG: I dont get setup a ssh server from my pc and connect to it isnt that unsecure since the begining point is from my pc but than im just guessing and that would only work if soemone was trying to trace the connection
[22:40] <rocnia> ok, i have a network device information permission issue, for a normal user, when launching any regular network tool .. like "no suitable device found"
[22:41] <WAKD> handy tip for everyone at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Flash_9_on_64_bits_system_.28x86_64.29
[22:41] <icanhasadmin> Any good way to tell what version of fglrx i have installed?
[22:41] <lucretian> fglrxinfo?
[22:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dongdong, kind of hard to understand what u mean..
[22:42] <tim1> how can i transfer files using ssh  is it , scp /file/:ipadrees /destination/ ?
[22:42] <WAKD> fglrx_info
[22:42] <Hilikus> any idea how to simulate running a scritp as if it were run by cron? i.e. with the env vars that cron would use and all the restrictions it uses?
[22:42] <Marupa> Hilikus, Unfortunately I don't know the answer to that one.
[22:42] <Hilikus> mm ok
[22:42] <lucretian> scp -r user@blah:/path/to/file local/path/to/put/file
[22:42] <Hilikus> i'll try setting TERM
[22:42] <rocnia> can anyone help ?
[22:42] <WAKD> login as script user and run the script or strace the script...
[22:43] <rocnia> can someone help ?
[22:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !help | rocnia
[22:43] <ubotu> rocnia: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:43] <icanhasadmin> I'm having errors getting fglrx to start, therefore fglrx info shows mesa and not fglrx version
[22:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !ask | rocnia
[22:43] <ubotu> rocnia: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:43] <rhineheart_m> how to change header info to something like this: Apache (unix)
[22:43] <WAKD> rhineheart_m in what?
[22:43] <rocnia> well i have asked a question
[22:43] <rocnia> ok, i have a network device information permission issue, for a normal user, when launching any regular network tool .. like "no suitable device found"
[22:44] <Malik_> is it possible to install ccsm without and internet connection on the ubuntu machine???
[22:44] <rocnia> argh, that's not a question. the question is: what should i do ? :-D
[22:44] <benpicco>  Hi, when I want to run an older app on a cd, I always get "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", I have libstdc++.so.6.0.9, but linking doesn't work (causes an error when I want to start the app)
[22:44] <u235> erUSUL: thanks, that's what i needed to know.
[22:44] <rhineheart_m> WAKD: in http header request
[22:44] <u235> WAKD: thanks as well, I'll check that link out now
[22:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, if it's not in your livecd, like i said, then it's a no-go
[22:45] <Malik_> where cna i find it in my live cd
[22:45] <WAKD> rhineheart_m check out the apache conf file mate - you can set all that there.
[22:45] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: where can i find it in my live cd?
[22:45] <u235> WAKD: oh, i've actually already installed those two packages and while flash sort of works, npviewer likes to hang and peg the cpu
[22:45] <erUSUL> u235: no problem
[22:45] <lucretian> benpicco: next time you put an app on a CD, static link it
[22:45] <BlackChaos> ok now this dam freezing is really pissing me off cant i watch a movie in piece
[22:45] <benpicco> lucretian: It's not my app
[22:46] <BlackChaos> i was told that i have 2 edit the xcof or something like that but ive only been using linux 4 4 days
[22:46] <Malik_> how do i get ccsm without a network connect on ubuntu
[22:46] <WAKD> u235 npviewer? for videos? just install mozilla-mplayer or mozilla-vlc
[22:46] <BlackChaos> and i have no idea wat to do
[22:46] <benpicco> lucretian: I's a pressed cd
[22:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, enable ur livecd repo in /etc/apt/source.list
[22:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, do u know how to do that?
[22:47] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: no
[22:47] <u235> WAKD: no this is for flash.  not even flash videos (a la youtube), but just flash menus on sites
[22:47] <lucretian> benpicco: can you not get the application some other way? it was compiled for a different system and not, apparently, for portability
[22:47] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG>: can u help me do that i hav buntu with the live cd in it rite beside me
[22:47] <erUSUL> u235: if you install flasplugin-nonfree on 64 bit ubuntu 7.10 you get flash working automatically
[22:47] <lancerocke> Hello
[22:47] <lancerocke> Does anyone here use "Sonata" or "GMPC"?
[22:47] <eekrano> hmmm.... can anyone see videos on hulu with flash?
[22:47] <BlackChaos> WAKD: please help me ive been using windows for 8 years and ive only been using linux for 4 days i was told that i have 2 edit the xorg but i have no idea wats that and im confused please help me
[22:47] <benpicco> lucretian: It's an example application to a book...
[22:47] <u235> erUSUL: it works, it just very often hangs and pegs a cpu core
[22:48] <u235> erUSUL: the user claims that they had no such issues on 7.10 i386 using the same flash player
[22:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, open synaptic
[22:48] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: is that in accerois or wat?
[22:48] <BlackChaos> can sum 1 please hlp me edit this xorg thing so that ubuntu wont freeze no more plese
[22:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, system->administration
[22:49] <u235> erUSUL: my apologies, i have to run for the moment, but feel free to pm me any tidbits of info.  i will be back later.  thanks again guys!
[22:49] <WAKD> BlackChaos - okay mate - create a channel and I'll join and help you out offline to save space here. :-)
[22:49] <lancerocke> Does anyone here use "Sonata" or "GMPC"? I'm trying to get either one of them to play my music and I dont understand how to add a library. I set the library iin the preferences, but nothing is happening. I set port forwarding and I am connected.
[22:49] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: synapatic package manager rite
[22:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, ys
[22:49] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: wats next
[22:50] <Stormx2> lancerocke: I use sonata.
[22:50] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, settings -> repositories
[22:50] <lancerocke> Stormx2: How does this work? How do I get my music library in there
[22:50] <TheViLliN> is it possible to change the colour of the command prompt alone??????????????????
[22:50] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: k
[22:50] <icanhasadmin> TheViLliN: less question marks please.
[22:50] <Stormx2> lancerocke: Err, I haven't every configured it directly from sonata, that may well not work.
[22:51] <ninjabob7> does anyone know how to get WoW running? i followed the wiki but i get an error (posted at http://cl1p.net/ninjabob7/)
[22:51] <Stormx2> lancerocke, try doing a "sudo killall mpd && mpd" from a terminal and trying again.
[22:51] <eekrano> is the flash-plugin updated enough where you can watch videos on hulu?
[22:51] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, under installable from cd-rom/dvd, check those check box
[22:51] <Stormx2> mpd runs as root by default on ubuntu, when it really needn't.
[22:51] <lancerocke> Stormx2: How did you configure it?
[22:51] <TheViLliN> icanhasadmin:  sry,  guess it's not that big of a question
[22:51] <WAKD> u235 you could try unisntalling adobe flash and install gnash instead?
[22:51] <Stormx2> lancerocke: edited /etc/mpd.conf
[22:51] <rhineheart_m> is mode_security supported by ubuntu? http://www.modsecurity.org/
[22:51] <saki_> this the 1st time 4 me
[22:51] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: k
[22:51] <BlackChaos> WAKD: how do i invite u to the channel i just created
[22:51] <lancerocke> Stormx2: Can you help me configure that?
[22:51] <WAKD> BlackChaos - what's the channle name?
[22:51] <lancerocke> Stormx2: Can I PM you?
[22:52] <Stormx2> lancerocke: Go ahead.
[22:52] <woddf2> Hello
[22:52] <WAKD> !paste
[22:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:52] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, close the window and do a reload in synaptic
[22:52] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: do i go on revert now
[22:52] <flush> yo
[22:52] <flush> http://pastebin.com/m275014ac
[22:52] <woddf2> I am installing GNOME with apt-get, and it is stuck!
[22:52] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: do i just close it ro go on revert first
[22:52] <flush> how do i remove this empty directory, its vfat... why it says read-only filesystem ??
[22:52] <function1> is there some way to have dpkg revert to original config files for a pkg?
[22:52] <Stormx2> woddf2: stuck?
[22:52] <icanhasadmin> woddf2: describe stuck please
[22:52] <BlackChaos> WAKD: BlackChaos & WAKD xorg help
[22:52] <BlackChaos> i didnt know wat to call it
[22:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, just close it
[22:53] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: k i did a reload
[22:53] <flush> any ideas
[22:53] <icanhasadmin> flush: chmod +x
[22:53] <egc> if i have two sets of files (seperate file systems) that i would like keep synced, is there a utility that could help with this?
[22:53] <WAKD> BlackChaos - can you just called it a single word - I can't seem to join..
[22:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, search for ompizconfig-settings-manager
[22:53] <BlackChaos> ok
[22:53] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: now it says could not downlaod load al resportiries indexes
[22:53] <may> egc: rsync is kewl
[22:53] <woddf2> Ohh wait...
[22:53] <Malik_> k
[22:53] <egc> may: ok thanks, ill look into that
[22:54] <Malik_> compizconfig* rite
[22:54] <flush> icanhasadmin negative
[22:54] <flush> doesnt work
[22:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, u have to insert ur livecd into ur cdrom
[22:54] <woddf2> http://pastebin.com/m69ea7032
[22:54] <BlackChaos> WAKD: XORG Help
[22:54] <Malik_> i did
[22:54] <Malik_> its not the live 1 ut its the normal 1
[22:54] <Malik_> lemme get the live 1 jus a sec
[22:54] <WAKD> BlackChaos just XORGHELP please mate :-)
[22:54] <BlackChaos> WAKD: oops seems to be taken
[22:54] <BlackChaos> ok
[22:54] <looksie> aloha
[22:55] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, they are the same i think
[22:55] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: do i redo the steps with the live cd
[22:55] <WAKD> BlackChaos just create a channel called BlackChaos :-)
[22:55] <woddf2> Is it really supposed to take that long?
[22:55] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, no u dont have to
[22:55] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: but tht was an oalder version to so lemme jus redo the steps to be sure
[22:55] <gianni> join /ubuntu-ita
[22:55] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, k
[22:55] <BlackChaos> WAKD:  there BlackChaos is the name of the channel
[22:55] <Slasher`> hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows a way to run visual basic compiled applications on ubuntu (through wine or crossover office or something maybe?)
[22:55] <woddf2> http://pastebin.com/m69ea7032
[22:55] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: where do i go from sypatence manager
[22:56] <WAKD> JOIN BlackChaos
[22:56] <woddf2> It is still displaying that final line.
[22:56] <icanhasadmin> flush: that would seem sort of unlikely. did you try 'sudo rm'?
[22:56] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: respotories rite
[22:56] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, from synaptic? settings -> repositories
[22:57] <flush> icanhasadmin i am rood
[22:57] <flush> *root
[22:57] <WAKD> !paste
[22:57] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: i didi all the steps and it says could not download all respositry indexes
[22:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:58] <woddf2> I am installing GNOME with apt-get, and it is stuck!
[22:58] <woddf2> http://pastebin.com/m69ea7032
[22:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, it's ok becuz its not online
[22:58] <wsspartan> hey guys i need some help
[22:58] <woddf2> It is still displaying that final line.
[22:58] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: alrite so wat do i do now
[22:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, other repo index need to be online
[22:58] <Stormx2> WAKD: Who was that for?
[22:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, search for ompizconfig-settings-manager
[22:58] <styrman>  is there a shortcut to disable compiz when i login?
[22:58] <wsspartan> any1
[22:59] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, search for compizconfig-settings-manager*
[22:59] <m-c> wsspartan: ask away
[22:59] <Stormx2> wsspartan: We can't help you unless you ask a question
[22:59] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG:lol
[22:59] <subsume> How can I make the ubuntu login screen go away and get a terminal prompt??
[22:59] <WAKD> Stormx2 - sorry mate?
[22:59] <icanhasadmin> flush: wait is that a mounted ipod?
[22:59] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, fond it?
[22:59] <subsume> or just make it go away with a keystroke one time?
[22:59] <subsume> I want to look at startup errors
[22:59] <Stormx2> subsume: Ctrl + Alt + F1? (Ctrl + Alt + F7 to get back)
[22:59] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: somethign came under all
[22:59] <Slasher`> woddf2; how long has it been on that for?
[23:00] <Stormx2> WAKD: You said !paste. But who was that intended for?
[23:00] <WAKD> subsume - just cat /var/log/dmesg mate
[23:00] <woddf2> Slasher`: I do not remember.
[23:00] <wsspartan>  i just but this wireless adapter in my old dell deminsion's pci slot and its not giveing me any wireles networks when i log in
[23:00] <WAKD> Stormx2 - sorry mate for me :-)
[23:00] <Slasher`> woddf2; a long time... i.e. more than 15 minutes?
[23:00] <woddf2> Slasher`: Somewhere between 10--15 minutes, I think...
[23:00] <Stormx2> WAKD: Ah kay. Well next time it's just for you, try /msg ubotu whatever. Saves ubotu filling up the channel :)
[23:00] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: what is sopouse to come up iam not sure if the right thing came up
[23:00] <flush> icanhasadmin no its an usb key
[23:00] <WAKD> Stormx2 oops soz mate - my bad :)
[23:00] <woddf2> I hear the hard disk working.
[23:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, what do u have?
[23:01] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: under all it says compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:01] <chuy_max> !printing
[23:01] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[23:01] <Slasher`> woddf2; give it about half an hour in total, if it still doesn't change, i'd terminate it and start again
[23:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, that's it i guess
[23:01] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: nothing in the other 2 boxes
[23:01] <woddf2> Thanks
[23:01] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: wat now
[23:01] <woddf2> Goodbye
[23:01] <wsspartan> how do i get this wireless card to work?
[23:02] <senorpedro> hi folks
[23:02] <m-c> !wifi | wsspartan
[23:02] <ubotu> wsspartan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:02] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG; nothing in the package thing
[23:02] <wsspartan> thanks
[23:02] <senorpedro> how can i change the mouse-shortcuts in gnome?
[23:02] <senorpedro> i want to resize the window with alt-mouse3 instead of alt-mouse2
[23:02] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, ok then it's not in the repo
[23:02] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: o its now
[23:02] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, i mean the livecd
[23:02] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: not*
[23:02] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: so i can't get it without internet there
[23:03] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: can't  i jus download it from there
[23:03] <icanhasadmin> flush: the only way i know of fixing that is to mkfs, which will delete info on the drive. so if you want to make it up on your harddrive, "mkfs.vfat -F 16 -n NewDriveName /dev/sdb1(or current location)" should fix
[23:03] <icanhasadmin> flush: but again back up info on the flash drive first
[23:03] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: can't i jus download it form somewhere *
[23:03] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, so can u download the package and use a flash drive or something to transfer it to ur ubuntu box?
[23:03] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, yes u can
[23:03] <icanhasadmin> flush: oh, and sdc1, now that i read your pastebin again
[23:03] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: yes thats wat iam askin
[23:04] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: gimme the link for it
[23:04] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:04] <flush> yea..
[23:04] <flush> i didnt want to format
[23:04] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, also this one http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/python-compizconfig
[23:04] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: i can't find the download button for the first 1
[23:05] <lonejack> hi, does somebody know what is the difference between a raid system made on (for example) motherboard and a raid dedicated system by adaptec/2ware? Does it change performances? Thank you,... lonejack
[23:05] <icanhasadmin> flush: you tried chown i'm guessing too? not that i expect it to work in this case but you can try
[23:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Malik_, under Architecture: all
[23:05] <chacureuil> Hello, I have the powerpc version of ubuntu 7.10, I just to know if there some existing way of having a better flash player than the gnash one, I guess there is no binary available since macromedia only proposes binaries ?
[23:06] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG>: i donot see architecteru
[23:06] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: hold on a sec i will brb
[23:06] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: brb
[23:06] <dyrne> chacureuil: you could run linux in qemu :) like using seamless desktop so its actually running virtually but yeah thats about it
[23:06] <m-c> lonejack: The RAID drivers for the onboard motherboard SATA drives do not work for boot drives
[23:06] <jf> Hm, I set my display to upside down and now gnome will not start. Were is this setting saved? (Hardy).
[23:06] <Stormx2> lonejack: Might get a better response in ##linux for that.
[23:07] <cesar_> donde estan
[23:07] <cesar_> ubuntu -es
[23:07] <styrman> how do i make comments in xml ?
[23:07] <styrman> trying to fix my gdm theme its bugging
[23:07] <rhineheart_m> anybody here who uses modsecurity2?
[23:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> jf, #ubuntu+1 for questions about hardy
[23:08] <dyrne> chacureuil: im almost certain there is a powerpc version of flash though check adobe site
[23:08] <lonejack> m-c, storm: thank you
[23:08] <chacureuil> dyrne: I read qemu is a x86 emulator, so basically the only thing I will get is some very slow flash movies, but I can rejoy since youtube's ones work fine
[23:08] <crazy_elf> hello
[23:08] <chacureuil> dyrne: yes but the flash build for powerpc is for macos x not for linux
[23:09] <m-c> !hi | crazy_elf
[23:09] <ubotu> crazy_elf: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:09] <crazy_elf> thanks
[23:09] <crazy_elf> anyone know anything about setting up a domain and using namespace?
[23:10] <dny> is there a way to make the width of the "window viewer" in the panel?
[23:10] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to get alltray to work. I click on windows and nothing happens.
[23:10] <WAKD> crazy_elf setting up a domain in what may mate
[23:10] <FreewareFan> Hello all.  How do I register my nick?  I tried help register, but it didn't work..  As you can see, a total newbie to IRC.
[23:10] <dny> for some reason its real short, even with a shitload of blank space next to it :/
[23:11] <atlef> !register
[23:11] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[23:11] <crazy_elf> wakd, well... I've done dynamic dns.  but now i've registered a domain with dyndns, and its asking for namespace.  Only problem is... my ubuntu server do I have to do something special to set that up?
[23:11] <jeffMASTERflex> MUS4SHIII: you need to use the alltray command to start the program . "alltray firefox"
[23:12] <MUS4SHIII> jeffMASTERflex:
[23:12] <MUS4SHIII> ahh
[23:12] <AlexHoover> !pidgin
[23:12] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[23:12] <FreewareFan> Thank you
[23:12] <TheViLliN> ls
[23:13] <maney> okay, maybe my expectations were too high - what should I expect to need to do (Gutsy) to erase and reuse a CD-RW disk?
[23:13] <jeffMASTERflex> maney: use brasero, gnomebaker, or k3b to blank it.
[23:13] <MUS4SHIII> jeffMASTERflex: thanks, that helped
[23:13] <TuTUXG_> maney, try k3b
[23:14] <WAKD> crazy_elf - ok so you have to point it to your servers' IP - it's static right?
[23:14] <maney> well, I'd be inclined to try something that doesn't require adding a few hundred MB of KDE libs first...
[23:15] <jeffMASTERflex> maney: brasero, while not as ridiculously awesome as k3b, is easy to use and just works
[23:15] <TuTUXG_> maney, the first two jeffMASTERflex said r gnome
[23:15] <maney> are any of those expected to be installed in a normal (gnome) desktop?
[23:15] <Felonious> Is there an easy way to reset my distro to default... basically like a reinstall?
[23:15] <crazy_elf> wakd, no its dynamic.  everytime the router restarts I have a new ip.  It refuses to allow me to put in my ip for the namespace
[23:15] <AlexHoover> Is there any diff. between Kubuntu and Ubuntu other than the preinstalled apps and the ui?
[23:15] <Felonious> no
[23:16] <atlef> maney: gnomebaker
[23:16] <maney> atlef: doesn't seem to be - there are some icons for it...
[23:16] <Felonious> I would just reformat the partitions but im scared that grub is gonna cry
[23:17] <TuTUXG_> maney, k3b is awesome, and it's not that freaking big, u can install gnome+kde and the total size of the os is still much smaller than *indows
[23:17] <atlef> maney: what happens if you right click the cd-rw in nautilus?
[23:17] <TheViLliN> if i need to omit a section out of a configure file when compiling a program, then is it as easy as opening the file and doing it?
[23:17] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: u still there?
[23:17] <WAKD> craxy_elf namespace *ponders* what I wonder is DynDns talking about namespace... - what does their 'Help' say about 'namespace'
[23:17] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, im here
[23:17] <ToHellWithGA> how can i reconfigure the video driver used by xserver-xorg?
[23:17] <Malik_> tutuxg: who r u
[23:18] <MattJ> ToHellWithGA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:18] <Malik_> [Hardy]TuTUXG: u there??
[23:18] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/all/compizconfig-settings-manager/download and chose a mirror
[23:18] <yowshi> i hope someone was able to help redheat
[23:18] <crazy_elf> wakd, I feel like a retard I meant nameservers... I mixed a c++ term up lol
[23:18] <yowshi> i wasnt here when he got back
[23:18] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, im him...
[23:18] <Malik_> o
[23:18] <tators> how do I partition my drive for a windows segment?
[23:18] <ToHellWithGA> MattJ: it doesn't ask about anything video related
[23:18] <maney> atlef: right click what?  /dev/*?  /media/cdrom?  or ...?
[23:18] <ToHellWithGA> it only reconfigures the keyboard and locale
[23:19] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, and also download the second one i gave u
[23:19] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: can u giv it again
[23:19] <MattJ> ToHellWithGA: Sorry, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:19] <kindofabuzz> is it possible to put another distro on second hard drive and not mess up the original grub and stuff?
[23:19] <omar> السلام عليكم
[23:19] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/python-compizconfig
[23:20] <MattJ> Long time since I did it that way ^^
[23:20] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:20] <yowshi> k3b is the shnizzle
[23:20] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: can't find where to download
[23:20] <tators> how do you partition your dive
[23:20] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: where do i click to download
[23:20] <jessica> i need help with ndiswrapper
[23:21] <jessica> every time i try and use it i get this message £Error: no ndiswrapper utils found!"
[23:21] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, there is a part of that page said download compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:21] <jessica> not the £ sign
[23:21] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, see it?
[23:21] <yowshi> whats the grep to see why i cant eject my cd
[23:21] <MUS4SHIII> kindofabuzz: why not just unplug your first drive and then have the bios go to your first drive when you plug it back in. Then edit Grub on the first drive and add an entry pointing to your second distro.
[23:21] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: bottom, left, rigt, top? where
[23:21] <tators> !parition
[23:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parition - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:21] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, left bottom
[23:21] <tators> !partition
[23:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[23:21] <kindofabuzz> yeah i guess i could do that
[23:21] <MUS4SHIII> kindofabuzz: sorry i meant unplug during the install of the second os, then plug in first drive again
[23:22] <kindofabuzz> yeah i know what you meant
[23:22] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: i see it bu ti donot see a download botton
[23:22] <MattJ> yowshi: Try sudo fuser -vv /dev/cdrom
[23:22] <wizo> hey, is the mod-userdir module available for use with apache? i cant seem to find it in the repository
[23:22] <Felonious> what would happen with grub if I removed my ubuntu installation?
[23:22] <tators> there's no disks in adminsitration
[23:22] <Felonious> would it screm my mbr?
[23:22] <tators> !diskmounter
[23:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[23:22] <orkun> nice EXA and intel module + smooth scrolling :)
[23:22] <RaceKondition> I'm trying to mount a FreeBSD partition in 7.10 Server Edition on amd64 with fstype=ufs and option ufstype=44bsd (tried old and 44bsd too).. but failing. dmesg | tail says: attempt to access beyond end of device, sda2: rw=0, want=17, limit=2
[23:22] <kindofabuzz> so when i reboot is will look at boot for first drive?
[23:22] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, just click all
[23:22] <orkun> thanks for helping
[23:22] <kindofabuzz> even though 2nd drive has a boot loader?
[23:23] <jessica> how do i get ndiswrapper working when i try it i get: Error: no ndiswrapper utils found!
[23:23] <tators> how do you partition using fiesty fawn?
[23:23] <MUS4SHIII> kindofabuzz: if Bios is looking for the first drive it will run off that bootloader. You can remove the bootloader from the MBR on the second drive later if you want, but it doesn't matter.
[23:23] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, and it leads u to a page with all mirrors, just choose one near your location
[23:23] <MattJ> tators: Use gparted
[23:24] <yowshi> grrr it is media/cdrom0 and for some reason k3b doesnt see it so i cant copy the cd
[23:24] <Malik_> TuTUXG_:  i got it
[23:24] <tators> mattj: do I have to install it or is it already on the os
[23:24] <maney> interesting... xubuntu-desktop depends on brasero, presumably kubuntu-desktop on k3b, but nothing depends on gnomebaker
[23:24] <Jaymac> tators go to System > Administration
[23:24] <kindofabuzz> i wanna put hardy beta on the 2nd drive is why i'm asking this
[23:24] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: this is the file rite:python-compizconfig_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb on AMD64 machines
[23:24] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, and download the python-compizconfig too
[23:24] <MattJ> tators: Not sure, running this in Terminal will make sure: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:24] <Jaymac> tators, if there is an entry called Partition Editor, it is installed...
[23:25] <Jaymac> tators, if not, sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:25] <atlef> maney: if you go to nautilus edit preferences and under the media tab you should be able to change the behaviour
[23:25] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: o i get it i hav to download all 3 files
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> so, unhook first drive, install beta on 2nd, hook 1st back up, then edit grub?  that's it?
[23:25] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, is ur ubuntu  64bit?
[23:25] <MUS4SHIII> kindofabuzz: yep
[23:25] <yowshi> anyone know where i can get help with k3b?
[23:25] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: the amd64 i386 and power pc rite
[23:25] <xjjk> hello, is there a way I can tell the ubuntu startup to ignore any kind of suspend/hibernate resuming?
[23:25] <yowshi> !k3b
[23:25] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: no
[23:25] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[23:25] <kindofabuzz> cool thanks
[23:25] <gregory> RaceKondition: http://www.patoche.org/LTT/disk/00000163.html could help or at least give an explanation
[23:25] <xjjk> I had a failed suspend/resume cycle
[23:25] <maney> atlef: but first it's gotta have the program installed, eh?
[23:25] <BlackChaos> just curious is there like a task manager in ubuntu i just wanna see how much cpu and memory ubuntu is using
[23:25] <xjjk> and my system keeps messing it's filesystems up
[23:26] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, only two, compizconfig-settings-manager, and compizconfig-python
[23:26] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: o wait nvm...i got the 2 files u gav me
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> blackchaos, system monitor
[23:26] <atlef> what does noauto 1 1 in fstab mean?
[23:26] <BlackChaos> kindofabuzz: ok thx
[23:26] <yowshi> hmmm thats not a very useful page ubotu
[23:26] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, download the i386 one not the amd64
[23:26] <woddf2> Hello
[23:26] <Fryguy--> atlef: noauto means dont' mount at boot, and the 1 and 1 correspond to dump and fsck order
[23:26] <Slasher`> woddf2; still stuck on that?
[23:26] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: alrite
[23:26] <MUS4SHIII> kindofabuzz: I don't know the exact syntax for grub, but there are lots of sites out there with that. There are also lots of MBR editors out there for deleting the second MBR if you like, or you could use the dd command, but I think I would leave it there because in a pinch you could get into the bios and boot direct to the second drive and its bootloader if the first drive goes out.
[23:26] <jamiepr> hi anyone know if there is a firewall for linux like zone alert for windows were you refuse all connections then as a program request access you can allow or deny
[23:26] <Fryguy--> atlef: man fstab for more details on the last 2 items
[23:27] <woddf2> I just installed GNOME after KDE, and the widgets look like my KDE theme, even in GTK applications!
[23:27] <atlef> Fryguy--: thx
[23:27] <RaceKondition> gregory: thanks, but I got it.. :) dmesg | tail bsd showed that sdb1 was the correct device not sda2
[23:27] <kindofabuzz> ok
[23:27] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: so i downloaded 2 files in total rite
[23:27] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, yes
[23:27] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: gimme a sec
[23:27] <atlef> maney: then install brasero or gnomebaker or k3b
[23:27] <WAKD> crazy_elf still need help?
[23:28] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, and plz, give me the name of those two files so i can make sure u got the right ones
[23:28] <woddf2> I just installed GNOME after KDE, and the widgets look like my KDE theme, even in GTK applications!
[23:28] <Malik_> k
[23:28] <atlef> maney: it's your choice
[23:28] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: so what is the problem?
[23:28] <maney> atlef: just did.  brasero.  where did you say to configure it?  (it's scrolled 'way far by now)
[23:28] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: python-compizconfig_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_i386 , and compizconfig-settings-manager_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_all
[23:28] <Bucketface> hi
[23:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[23:28] <atlef> maney: if you go to nautilus edit preferences and under the media tab you should be able to change the behaviour
[23:28] <cookie> hello guys
[23:28] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, right on
[23:28] <cookie> I have a problem with synaptic
[23:29] <cookie> I can't install anything at all
[23:29] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: alrite lemme ptu em on flash
[23:29] <crazy_elf> wakd, unfortunatly yes.. :(  I tried setting up a dynamic url with dyndns, then using that as the nameserver
[23:29] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to specify the icon used with alltray?
[23:29] <WAKD> cookies - what's the error?
[23:29] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: I just installed GNOME after KDE, and the widgets look like my KDE theme, even in GTK applications!
[23:29] <maney> atlef: not called "media"...
[23:29] <svalkii> http://www.svalki.info/index.php
[23:29] <svalkii> http://www.svalki.info/index.php
[23:29] <svalkii> http://www.svalki.info/index.php
[23:29] <FloodBot2> svalkii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <svalkii> http://www.svalki.info/index.php
[23:29] <kindofabuzz> if i install hardy beta, does it update to beta 2, etc?
[23:29] <Bucketface> I reinstalled windows XP and my grub is broken. It messed up my partitions so I don't really know what to do to get grub to start again :{ Halp please.
[23:29] <Fryguy--> kindofabuzz: #ubuntu+1
[23:29] <WAKD> crazy_elf no nameservers are different to the host IP
[23:29] <cookie> WAKD: don't remember. I am trying again to get the error
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> is he flooding an advertisment? wow that's smart
[23:29] <Fryguy--> Bucketface: google it and the first result is what you want
[23:29] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: my question is still "What is the problem with that?" You can change your gnome and gtk theme at Preferences/Appearance
[23:29] <gregory> kindofabuzz: yes
[23:30] <Fryguy--> Bucketface: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:30] <WAKD> crazy_efl if you bought the domain from DynDNS they should have your DNS records on their primary server ns1.mydyndns.org
[23:30] <kindofabuzz> kk
[23:30] <Bucketface> thanks, Fryguy--.
[23:30] <atlef> Fryguy--: what happens if i append this to my /boot
[23:30] <MUS4SHIII> nvm, found it
[23:30] <gregory> kindofabuzz: when its time, do apt-get upgrade-distro
[23:30] <ZiRo`osx> i have a problem installing 7.10 x86 - it is stuck at 94% "Configuring hardware..."
[23:30] <WAKD> crazy_elf do a 'dig youdomain.com @ns1.mydyndns.org' and see what it says mate
[23:30] <ZiRo`osx> has been there for about 2 hours
[23:30] <rajesh> Hi .. i have one problem in pidgin ....
[23:30] <Fryguy--> atlef: append what?
[23:30] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: there its in ubuntu now
[23:30] <Anonymous_> Buenas
[23:30] <TuTUXG_> Malik_, change connection, one sec
[23:30] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: That does not work.
[23:30] <rajesh> can any body out here help me with pidgin ?
[23:30] <jamiepr> can anyone help with firewalls
[23:30] <Fryguy--> rajesh: #pidgin
[23:31] <Fryguy--> people, please ask questions, don't ask to ask questions
[23:31] <rajesh> hi fry guy
[23:31] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: okay...
[23:31] <woddf2> In fact, they even have colours that match my KDE theme.
[23:31] <cookie> WAKD: hey
[23:31] <jamiepr> can anyone help with firewalls
[23:31] <cookie> WAKD: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wu-ftpd/wu-ftpd_2.6.2-28ubuntu1_i386.deb
[23:31] <cookie>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[23:31] <jamiepr> hi anyone know if there is a firewall for linux like zone alert for windows were you refuse all connections then as a program request access you can allow or deny
[23:31] <WAKD> cookie hey mate
[23:31] <Fryguy--> jamiepr: just ask your question, don't ask to ask
[23:31] <kristjan_> is there  a simple command to list package dependencies?
[23:31] <rajesh> k fryuy
[23:31] <kindofabuzz> one more question, can i share /home across two hard drives with different installs?
[23:31] <WAKD> cookie - that's it?
[23:31] <Fryguy--> jamiepr: firestarter will probably do what you want
[23:31] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: you know you can install new themes, right?
[23:31] <atlef> Fryguy--: what happens if i append this to my /boot (the noauto thing)
[23:31] <Fryguy--> atlef: bad things
[23:31] <cookie> WAKD: yes
[23:31] <jamiepr> thank you
[23:31] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, back
[23:31] <Fryguy--> atlef: just leave it alone unles you know what you are doing
[23:31] <WAKD> cookie - do a apt-get update and paste full output
[23:31] <WAKD> !paste | cookie
[23:31] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: alrite
[23:31] <ubotu> cookie: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:31] <cookie> ok
[23:32] <ZiRo`osx> gonna leave the install going over night to see if it sorts itself out
[23:32] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: so the 2 files r in buntu
[23:32] <Devourer> Is there a command to see what programs are using ALSA?
[23:32] <rajesh> i could not able to see some groups listed in pidgin
[23:32] <ZiRo`osx> any ideas?
[23:32] <Malik_> TuTUXG_: ubuntu *
[23:32] <woddf2> Yes, but that will probably not solve the problem.
[23:32] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, ok, open a terminal
[23:32] <Khamael> I want to make a t-shirt with the expression: "if not drunk, add beer" in c++ or another programming lingo. can anybody help me?
[23:32] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: Yes, but that will probably not solve the problem.
[23:32] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: opened
[23:32] <maney> atlef: you're sure you're talking about Nautilus?  Ain't nothing at all like media settings in its preference widget unless there's some stone I'm not turning over...
[23:32] <atlef> Fryguy--: i know i need to undo it when installing new kernels
[23:32] <gregory> jamiepr: i would think no. but try firestarter as suggested. it uses just another concept. it will never ask you when you start programs for the first time
[23:32] <crazy_elf> wakd, ok I don't think that will work.  I just bought the domain there, they wanted me to do a custom dns package but I didn't
[23:32] <WAKD> Kamael - what? :-)
[23:32] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: well unless you try, you will never know
[23:32] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, cd to the directory those files at
[23:32] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: ?
[23:32] <woddf2> Where can I find new themes?
[23:33] <Bucketface> Thanks again~
[23:33] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, where did u put those two files
[23:33] <WAKD> crazy_elf aaahh - err.. you really need DNS servers mate. You any good with bind?
[23:33] <rajesh> i tried reinstalling and also tried to delete some groups thinking that if there are any limit in num of groups
[23:33] <yowshi> oooook this is wierd k3b is seeing it it is listed in the folders tab but it wont let me copy the cd
[23:33] <gregory> Khamael: wrong channel
[23:33] <Fryguy--> woddf2: art.gnome.org
[23:33] <budgester> Khamael, if(!drunk){berr++)
[23:33] <stefg> !themes | woddf2
[23:33] <budgester> Khamael, if(!drunk){beer++)
[23:33] <ubotu> woddf2: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:33] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: on the desktop
[23:33] <jamiepr> thanks gregory
[23:33] <atlef> maney: open nautilus. under edit there is an entry called preferences
[23:33] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, ok, in terminal: cd && cd Desktop
[23:33] <maney> atlef: yes, there is
[23:33] <azexian> can someone tell me how to stop a shell closing when a program finishes, don't care which shell, just need to know one which can do it, either that, or a way to tell a terminal to execute a function (bash)
[23:34] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, then: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[23:34] <cookie> http://rafb.net/p/jskzZi13.html
[23:34] <bodhi_zazen> lol FreewareFan
[23:34] <atlef> maney: and no media?
[23:34] <maney> atlef: and it has no tab or item on any tab that i can see that's about "media"
[23:34] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: 1 sec
[23:34] <crazy_elf> wakd, well... I can try and learn.  I've only got one server.  But I can give it my best shot.  any advice on what direction I should look into?
[23:34] <noble-> azexian, &?
[23:34] <rajesh> i could not able to see some groups listed in pidgin
[23:34] <cookie> WAKD: http://rafb.net/p/jskzZi13.html
[23:34] <bodhi_zazen> what are you needing, or just wanting to learn irc ?
[23:34] <avatar_> hello
[23:34] <azexian> noble-: yes, but I need something that will stop it ending...
[23:34] <yowshi> anyone here able to offer help with k3b and making an iso image off a cd?
[23:34] <sorbazz> Has anyone in here tryed dramlinux. Its looks so awesome but is it good?
[23:34] <ZiRo`osx> 7.10 install locking up at 94% "Configuring Hardware..." known bug??
[23:34] <atlef> maney: ok i do, but this is herdy, so maybe new feature
[23:34] <WAKD> crazy_elf create a channel and I'll talk this through...
[23:34] <azexian> noble-: for example rxvt -e dmesg would close very quickly, I need commands to stay open...
[23:35] <Devourer> Is there a way to see if a program is accessing /dev/dsp ?
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> sorbazz, dream linux was nice last time I looked
[23:35] <noble-> azexian, screen maybe? not sure I'm following
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> nice forums too
[23:35] <noble-> azexian, rxvt -e dmesg | lelss
[23:35] <MUS4SHIII> ZiRo`osx: have you tried the alternate install cd?
[23:35] <j_> do you know if they have TYPE B Flouro Bulbs?????
[23:35] <ZiRo`osx> MUS4SHIII:  nope
[23:35] <avatar_> need some help? any ubuntu experts here? ;)
[23:35] <looksie> anyone have an issue of their screensaver logging them out?
[23:35] <crazy_elf> wakd, #crazy_elf_dns
[23:35] <cookie> WAKD: hey. this is the full error output
[23:35] <cookie> WAKD: http://rafb.net/p/jskzZi13.html
[23:35] <MUS4SHIII> ZiRo`osx: I had some install trouble too, but the alternate CD worked great for me.
[23:35] <maney> atlef: well, I'm going to give brasero a swing at it - if that doesn't do it, I've installed cdrecord and i can burn the beta CD the old fashioned way.  I thought I'd explore what non-geeks would look for while I was doing that, since I already know that CDRs work pretty smoothly
[23:35] <mutable> Hello. Is there any way to find out monitor refresh rate? I found in forums, mailing lists, ... similar problems but not the answer :(
[23:35] <WAKD> cookie - err what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list file - your DNS is odd
[23:36] <azexian> noble-: I realise I can make it show more or less, but all I see is a flash of a terminal, and then it's gone, I want a terminal that won't end on end of program, either that or a way to make a program never end
[23:36] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: the last line says setting up compiz config.............
[23:36] <Khamael> budgester: thank you
[23:36] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, then?
[23:36] <atlef> maney: :-)
[23:36] <avatar_> I've just taken the big step and installed gustsy gibbon on my Dell Vostro 1500 laptop, but it wont detect my soundcard, anyone who can help?
[23:36] <atlef> maney: i use brasero
[23:36] <ZiRo`osx> MUS4SHIII: thanks for tip
[23:36] <sorbazz> bodhi_zazen: any channel for support and stuffs?
[23:36] <maney> atlef: but are you sure you're not doing drugs?  a gnome tool *adding* useful options?  inconceivable!
[23:36] <gregory> azexian: ./program && sleep 100   maybe
[23:36] <WAKD> cookie 'ping archive.ubuntu.com'
[23:36] <wizo> hey, when i try to enable a module in apache
[23:37] <WAKD> cookie - you got squid running?
[23:37] <atlef> maney: come now, that is uncalled for
[23:37] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: then it says ali@ali-desktop:~/Desktop$....thats atucally the last line
[23:37] <cookie> WAKD: what?
[23:37] <azexian> gregory: thankyou, I didn't think of that, thanks
[23:37] <wizo> do i a2enmod /etc/apache2/mods-available/mod-i-want.load ?
[23:37] <maney> atlef: not in my experience
[23:37] <budgester> maney, I'm not sure if you really know what that word means
[23:37] <cookie> WAKD: well, it worked till 2 days ago
[23:37] <atlef> maney: :-)
[23:37] <rajesh> sound is not working when system comes back from suspend ... any resolution ?
[23:37] <cookie> WAKD: suddenly it doesn't work
[23:37] <nomic> if i want to know about good OCR software open source for ubuntu where do i ask? pls
[23:37] <maney> budgester: I have a very large dictionary ready to hand :-)
[23:37] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: no dots (...)* no dots
[23:37] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, so it's installed already
[23:37] <cookie> WAKD: do oyu want my whole sources.list file?
[23:37] <avatar_> i've tried rebuilding the alsa drivers, but it still wont pick up my sound card
[23:37] <Malik_> idk?
[23:38] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, in terminal, type ccsm
[23:38] <sorbazz> bodhi_zazen: Is dreamlinux easy to use. Im pretty new to linux..
[23:38] <budgester> maney, but can you get through the 3 dangers of the  fireswamp
[23:38] <WAKD> cookie 'ping archive.ubuntu.com'
[23:38] <cookie> well, to see if it is up?
[23:38] <WAKD> cookie what IP is it trying to hit
[23:38] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: yes!
[23:38] <Malik_> it came up
[23:38] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: the effect and stuff
[23:38] <TuTUXG__> Malik_, good
[23:38] <noble-> maney, ROUS's?
[23:38] <WAKD> cookie do you have a direct connection out to the world or via a proxy?
[23:38] <cookie> WAKD: weirdly it is trying localhost
[23:38] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: thankyou so much
[23:38] <gmachine_24> I just installed Sunbird and, although I can start the program with a command line command how do I create a link to one of the icons in the /sunbird/icons directory and add it to my >applications>office pull-down menu. Thanks.
[23:38] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: brb
[23:38] <cookie> WAKD: oh shit
[23:38] <wizo> do i just move files from mods-available to mods-enabled?
[23:38] <cookie> WAKD: i just installed a proxy a few days ago
[23:39] <cookie> WAKD: exactly
[23:39] <Fryguy--> wizo: links
[23:39] <bodhi_zazen> sorbazz, It is as easy or hard as any ...
[23:39] <Malik_>  TuTUXG_: brb
[23:39] <cookie> WAKD: I installed anon-proxy
[23:39] <wizo> Fryguy--: huh?
[23:39] <Fryguy--> wizo: make links
[23:39] <maney> atlef: half funny, half serious: it does seem like gnome programs trend to becoming too painful to use by decustomization.  the last one that pissed me off was gterm when they made the **&$# kill buttons unhideable
[23:39] <bodhi_zazen> sorbazz, try Limux Mint
[23:39] <azexian> gregory: no, that doesn't seem to work :s what I'm trying to do, is run serveral functions in a terminal, it's all written by me in functions, which then I tried to do with rxvt -e 'command 1' && 'command 2' but of course the commands default to only running the first in the new shell, I decided I could cope with that, but I need shells to stay open, just tested the above, but that doesn't seem to do anything...
[23:39] <budgester> wizo,  a2enmod 'module'  the module you want
[23:39] <jeffMASTERflex> gmachine_24: you can edit items in the menu by right clicking on the menu bar and 'edit menus'
[23:39] <rhineheart_m> Is this bug has been already fixed and added to the repo? Bug #156748
[23:39] <xim> whats the best irc client for linux?
[23:39] <azexian> gregory: naturally the first command is the only one to be run in the new terminal...
[23:40] <Paavi2_0> xim: irssi
[23:40] <maney> budgester: I shall cheat.  I have a friend who raises these small dragons...
[23:40] <cookie> WAKD: Thanks. I hope it will work now
[23:40] <wizo> budgester: the module i want is the user_dir, so do i just type a2enmod userdir ? or do i have to type a2enmod /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load or smth
[23:40] <woddf2> Appearance Preferences freezes when I click Install!
[23:40] <xim> k, i like the look of this XCHAT gnome client, but it doesnt have any options to let me connect to any other servers besides this ubuntu server
[23:40] <atlef> maney: im not that kind of user, i like the minimal look of gnome and sometimes painfull as it is, the simplicity
[23:41] <sorbazz> bodhi_zazen: yeah! That looks awesome too, but I prefer dreamlinux I love that look. Is it worth a try?
[23:41] <bodhi_zazen> yea, I would try Dream
[23:41] <xim> and ksirc, in between a server telling me i have to change nicks when i do a /nick says im not connected to a server...wtf
[23:41] <noble-> xim, click Xchat > New > server tab
[23:41] <budgester> try as2enmod userdir then restart apache
[23:41] <thornomad> hi everyone - am sure there is an easy fix to this but can't figure it out or find an easy answer ... Network Settings won't remember my WPA password ... any time I restart the computer, I need to go back to System->Network Settings and select my wireless connection and retype my password.  Then things connect and work fine until the next time i shut down.  Shouldn't Network Settings remember my password?  Any ideas ? Thanks!
[23:42] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: Appearance Preferences freezes when I click Install!
[23:42] <xb3rt> can i set up a hotmail account on evolution?
[23:42] <wizo> i don't think hotmail allows pop3
[23:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xb3rt, u sure can
[23:42] <azexian> aanyone got any ideas? I need to make a terminal run a command (e.g rxvt -e command) without closing
[23:42] <WAKD> cookie - yeah just disable anon-proxy and test or re-configure the proxy server :-)
[23:42] <maney> atlef: if you're comfortable with all their choices it's great, i suppose.  I suspect I'm not really their target market... but I find KDE even less usable (or maybe it just needs even more fiddling to make it right)
[23:42] <tailsfan> Hello
[23:42] <xim> noble- where is the Xchat menu? i only have IRC edit network discussion go and help
[23:42] <yowshi> oh wait no wonder thatd a dvd DOH
[23:42] <tailsfan> Is there a way to change the Human colors
[23:43] <wizo> ahh got it working, thanks!
[23:43] <noble-> xim, you must have a different/older version of xchat.  Try upgrading in your package manager
[23:43] <xim> ?? im in gutsy 7.10?
[23:43] <xb3rt> [Hardy]TuTUXG: do you know the pop address?
[23:43] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: it's possible you tried to install a theme without having the appropriate theme engine installed
[23:43] <xim> but ok ill try
[23:43] <atlef> maney: i haven't tried kde in a long time
[23:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xb3rt, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[23:43] <woddf2> The file chooser freezes.
[23:43] <noble-> xim, are you using the Gnome-xchat front?
[23:43] <Slasher`> kde4 went gimpy on me
[23:43] <Slasher`> it was unstable
[23:44] <Slasher`> so i went back to gnome
[23:44] <gregory> azexian: hmm, does it work, if you put command 1 and command 2 into a new wrapper script and call that as command 1?
[23:44] <xim> noble- yeah the the one that comes default under applicatoins >internet
[23:44] <sorbazz> bodhi_zazen: going for dream now:D
[23:44] <digitalfox> Has anyone on Hardy noticed a regression wherein extended mouse buttons don't work? the "buttons" option in the xorg.conf simply... doesn't work
[23:44] <bodhi_zazen> >:)
[23:44] <Fryguy--> digitalfox: #ubuntu+1
[23:44] <NSN|Brainstorm> :o
[23:44] <noble-> oh, use just "Xchat", not Gnome-xchat
[23:44] <maney> atlef: me neither.  my last memory was that there didn't seem to be any way to make its otherwise nice tabbed terminal thingie STAY at the size I wanted.  or something like that
[23:44] <NSN|Brainstorm> why that evil face bodhi? :P
[23:44] <digitalfox> Fryguy--: oh, there's a specific channel for dev release issues?
[23:44] <xim> oic
[23:44] <digitalfox> thanks
[23:45] <atlef> maney: kept to gnome since i first found ubuntu
[23:45] <tailsfan> Is there a way, because I wanted to change it from Orange to Purple
[23:45] <xim> maybe this program is only for connecting you to ubuntu help
[23:45] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: The file chooser freezes.
[23:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> atlef, me too!!
[23:45] <xim> kindof an artificial restriction
[23:45] <atlef> maney: before that i was all kde
[23:45] <maney> brasero seems to be handling everything very nicely, BTW
[23:45] <gmachine_24> jeffMASTERflex: Ok, man, thanks for the tip. I got Sunbird running from the pull-down menu.
[23:45] <noble-> xim, use your package manager to install "xchat".  I'm connected to 4 IRC networks and it works fine
[23:45] <atlef> maney: nice
[23:45] <xim> k ill do that and also try irssi and see which i like best, thanks guys
[23:45] <atlef> [Hardy]TuTUXG: hehe
[23:45] <zl3cat> Printer is detected, all set up.... print jobs get queued and dissapear again. No printing happening.
[23:46] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: that happens if you don't have the appropriate them engine installed. I hope that when you installed gnome you installed ubuntu-desktop instead of the deprecated 2.18 gnome install in the repos
[23:46] <NSN|Brainstorm> :/
[23:46] <zl3cat> I've seen this issue before, can;t recall how I fixed it last time
[23:46] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: I installed ubuntu-desktop.
[23:46] <sorbazz> Anyone whos been on dreamlinux and got some bad/good experiences with it?
[23:46] <gregory> zl3cat: are you running ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[23:46] <NSN|Brainstorm> where's that 2point0 character from the forums? :p
[23:46] <maney> except for being automagically started, but maybe that just needs the newer nautilus... which I'll have a chance to see after that CD is done :-)
[23:47] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: some themes require gtk engines to render correctly. if you do not have them installed, the themes will not be installed
[23:47] <zl3cat> gregory, no
[23:47] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: try installing themes from synaptic and testing them out in the appearance properties
[23:47] <free1> sorry, but newb question.  Can I zip a group of files from the graphical desktop?
[23:47] <atlef> maney: right, so its a hardy iso
[23:47] <zl3cat> gregory, last time it was some issue with some part of the print chain not having appropriate permissions
[23:48] <jeffMASTERflex> free1: select the files, right click on one of them and select add to archive
[23:48] <zl3cat> I just figured I filed a bug last time so if I look up my old bugs I might find what I did last time
[23:48] <atlef> free1: select files in nautilus and rightclik
[23:48] <gregory> zl3cat: yes quite likely permissions
[23:48] <woddf2> That is odd...
[23:48] <free1> jeffMASTERflex: thank you!
[23:48] <woddf2> I launched Synaptic, and root's widgets look fine!
[23:49] <Tansien> Some iranian tried to hack my webserver :|
[23:49] <woddf2> jeffMASTERflex: I launched Synaptic, and root's widgets look fine! It must be my account...
[23:49] <jeffMASTERflex> Tansien: it's ok, bush is on it
[23:49] <noble-> muahah
[23:49] <woddf2> What does KDE do that makes GTK use its widgets even outside of KDE?
[23:50] <Fryguy--> woddf2: kde doesn't do anything
[23:50] <jeffMASTERflex> woddf2: i THINK there is an option in kcontrol to use kde widgets in GTK applications. look around though
[23:50] <Fryguy--> if you run an app that uses gtk, it uses gtk
[23:51] <gylan1979> can any 1 tell me hw to setup atheros wireless in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy?
[23:51] <FJSS> can anyone tell me how to set my keyring up to auto unlock after bootup??
[23:51] <Fryguy--> FJSS: lol
[23:51] <xim> if anyone cares, i found on the Xchat-gnome website
[23:51] <xim> Q. How is the server list edited?
[23:51] <xim> A. The server list is edited from the preferences window rather than the connect dialog.
[23:52] <FJSS> Fryguy: ???
[23:52] <skarface> FJSS: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization
[23:52] <Radit> Where is the firefox cache directory?
[23:52] <skarface> scroll down to "prompt for keychain on login"
[23:52] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs gylan1979 have a look here first please
[23:53] <andar4> Hello, my laptop with Ubuntu 7.10 is currently fsck'd.. it is stuck at 72.7% of the fs check and it isn't going to budge.. is there any way I can get around this problem? it is very difficult to use my computer when it is in this state :(
[23:53] <gylan1979> bazhang: thx
[23:53] <MattJ> Radit:  ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile id>/Cache
[23:53] <MattJ> Radit: But if you want to clear it, there is a better way
[23:53] <FJSS> Fryguy: thx!
[23:54] <skarface> ...
[23:54] <Radit> what is that, matt?
[23:54] <xb3rt> [Hardy]TuTUXG: i followed those directions but its saying i need webdav access, which i should be grandfathered into
[23:54] <Nasra> Is there anything available better than Sound Juicer for Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[23:54] <Slasher`> SJ rules
[23:55] <Slasher`> a friend of mine has helped fix some bugs in that in the the new ubuntu
[23:55] <Slasher`> i helped him test it lol
[23:55] <MattJ> Radit: Tools->Clear Private Data...
[23:56] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xb3rt, hotmail?
[23:56] <xb3rt> [Hardy]TuTUXG: yea
[23:56] <Fryguy--> xb3rt: if hotmail supports pop or imap access, then yes evolution can use it
[23:56] <tripps> i'm trying to find the expose function but it isn't listed under my compiz config settings manager under gutsy gibbon. where do i get the expose feature?
[23:56] <Radit> Thanks, Matt..8-)
[23:56] <Fryguy--> tripps: it's called scale
[23:56] <MattJ> Radit: No problem
[23:57] <kal> hi
[23:57] <andar4> Can anyone help me with my fsck problem, or show me where i can get help?  it's stalled out at 72.7%--how can i boot my computer if it wants to do this every time?
[23:57] <tripps> Fryguy--, awesome thanks!
[23:57] <woddf2> I actually renamed some files, and it fixed it.
[23:57] <woddf2> Thanks
[23:57] <woddf2> Goodbye
[23:57] <Fryguy--> andar4: if it's stopping at the same point every time, I'd recommend finding some hard drive diagnostic tools and scanning the hard drive
[23:57] <Fryguy--> andar4: since it's somewhat likely that your hard drive is dead
[23:58] <andar4> it's not though
[23:58] <andar4> this has happened before--it's just after a certain amount of boots it does fsck and it fails
[23:58] <Xuc> Can anyone help me with a simple script?
[23:58] <gregory> Xuc: just ask
[23:58] <Fryguy--> andar4: well fsck failing is a bad thing
[23:58] <andar4> it doesnt give an error message and i've reinstalled ubuntu and it works fine--i have a dual boot with xp and it works fine..
[23:58] <Fryguy--> andar4: run a hard drive diagnostic
[23:59] <andar4> ok i guess i can just do that in windows? will it be able to see the ubuntu partition?
[23:59] <Fryguy--> andar4: run a hard drive diagnostic, not a file sytsem check or a partition check
[23:59] <andar4> how do i do that?
[23:59] <tronyx> NSN|Brainstorm
[23:59] <Fryguy--> andar4: use your manufacturer's program