| Bisclaveret | well i'm completely new to operating in a unix system so thats new to me :p i was wondering where apt was putting the files. | 00:00 |
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| Lokian | Well I installed the second card so the machine can work as firewall of sorts, so how would I configure it to pass traffic from my router to to hub on my LAN | 00:00 |
| Bisclaveret | TheSheep: complete text dump of the entire operation: http://pastebin.com/m626b2906 | 00:00 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: apt puts them in /usr/lib/angband most likely, but since you're compiling your own version, it will go to /usr/local instead of /usr | 00:01 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: try ./configure --with-libpath=/usr/local/lib/angband | 00:02 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: then try to run /usr/local/bin/angband | 00:03 |
| Bisclaveret | they think the problem is something from fiesty that prints the command not found string thats preventing the executable from running | 00:12 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: have you tried running '/usr/local/bin/angband' ? | 00:13 |
| Lokian | Ok, I setup both network cards with the same settings, since only one is connected, and I'm not sure which one that is, but I still can't connect to anything. | 00:13 |
| TheSheep | Lokian: disable one of them | 00:14 |
| Lokian | TheSheep: How do I do that? | 00:14 |
| TheSheep | Lokian: there are checkboxes next to them in the config | 00:14 |
| Lokian | TheSheep: Ok, I thought that might be their function. Thanks. | 00:14 |
| === Lokian_ is now known as Lokian1 | ||
| Bisclaveret | and now firefox just crashed. | 00:35 |
| Bisclaveret | how do i kill it? | 00:35 |
| TheSheep | killall -9 firefox | 00:36 |
| TheSheep | or use the system->system monitor | 00:36 |
| Bisclaveret | i manage to crash the stablest things, it's just me :p | 00:36 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: did that command work? | 00:37 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: the one with /usr/local? | 00:37 |
| Lokian1 | How/where do I get a taskbar for xubuntu like windows has? | 00:42 |
| Bisclaveret | no, apparently i'l need to ./configure --with-setgid=games --with-libpath=/usr/local/games/lib/angband | 00:42 |
| Bisclaveret | according to the developer | 00:43 |
| TheSheep | Lokian: right click on a panel, select 'add item', select taskbar plugin from the list | 00:43 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: edit /etc/environment and add /usr/local/bin to your PATH, then relog | 00:44 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep: Ok, thanks again! | 00:46 |
| Bisclaveret | ah, is that how linux does path= statements? | 00:47 |
| Sl4y3r | can someone help me out for a minute | 00:48 |
| Sl4y3r | ive put xubuntu on two computers | 00:49 |
| Sl4y3r | one thats pretty old | 00:49 |
| Sl4y3r | and one thats farely new | 00:49 |
| Sl4y3r | and it runs smoother and faster on the older one | 00:49 |
| Sl4y3r | why? | 00:49 |
| Sl4y3r | ? | 00:50 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: one possibility is that the newer one has a graphics card that is poorly supported, and it fell back to the generic "vesa" driver | 00:51 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: which is slow | 00:51 |
| Sl4y3r | yeah | 00:52 |
| Sl4y3r | but its wierd | 00:52 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep:Um, what is a panel? | 00:52 |
| Sl4y3r | he has the same modem i do from sbc | 00:52 |
| Sl4y3r | a motorola | 00:53 |
| Sl4y3r | and his network is slower too | 00:53 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: Lokian1 the strips at the top and bottom of your screen | 00:53 |
| Sl4y3r | like firefox takes forever to load | 00:53 |
| Bisclaveret | for some reason xubuntu fell back to 'intel' for mine because 'i810' doesn't work right in terminal. i get multiple colorstripes | 00:53 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep: I don't have any strips, just a desktop with a few icons | 00:53 |
| Sl4y3r | lokianl? | 00:53 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: I believe that 'intel' is a newer driver than 'i810' | 00:53 |
| TheSheep | Lokian1: can you press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' in there, then press enter? | 00:54 |
| Sl4y3r | o | 00:54 |
| Bisclaveret | it says 'intel' is experimental | 00:55 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep: Ok, that worked! How can I get it to stay like that when I log in again thou? | 00:55 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: yes, and also newer :) | 00:55 |
| TheSheep | Lokian1: save your session when logging out | 00:55 |
| TheSheep | Lokian1: it will be remembered | 00:55 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep: Ok, how do I save my session? | 00:56 |
| TheSheep | Lokian1: be sure to uncheck that 'save session' checkbox on next logout though, weird things somethimes happen when you save session every time | 00:56 |
| Bisclaveret | we need to start buying TheSheep shots at this point | 00:56 |
| TheSheep | Lokian1: when you log out, there is a window with a checkbox for that | 00:56 |
| Lokian1 | TheSheep: OK, thank you very much! | 00:56 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: did you add /usr/local/bin to your PATH? | 00:56 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: can you check what graphics card you have on the slow computer? | 00:57 |
| Radlager | hi all | 00:57 |
| TheSheep | hi Radlager | 00:57 |
| Sl4y3r | its at my dads | 00:57 |
| Radlager | is where any way to switch (x)ubunutu to iso8859-x? | 00:58 |
| Bisclaveret | TheSheep: it's already added | 00:58 |
| Bisclaveret | PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" | 00:58 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: in your language preferences | 00:58 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: there should be two versions of your locale, one with -utf8 and one without | 00:59 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: but I'd encourage using utf8 | 00:59 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: I only can find utf-8 and utf-8 with euro symbol where | 00:59 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: which locale? | 01:00 |
| Radlager | yes utf-8 would be fine, if the rest of the world would use it, and finally somebody would _really_ utf-ing the console | 01:00 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: is there 'angband' binary in /usr/local/bin? | 01:00 |
| Radlager | I would like to have ISO-8859-1 or 15 (western europe, with or without euro symbol) | 01:00 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: or is it in /usr/local/angband/bin ? | 01:00 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: if you mean the terminal emulator, it supports utf great. if you mean utf-ing the text mode, it's not really possible without framebuffer enabled | 01:01 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: what language/locale do you use? | 01:02 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: utf-8 with euro | 01:02 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: that's a strange language | 01:02 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: most people would speak English or something | 01:03 |
| Radlager | actually I am more on the FreeBSD side, but the (x)ubuntu guys are doing a great job and it's the perfect system for my wife | 01:03 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: I dont speak utf-8 :) actually most of the time German | 01:03 |
| Bisclaveret | lol | 01:04 |
| Radlager | which is the problem, we have some funny symbols like ö ä ü | 01:04 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: ok, and there is no de_DE locale on your system? | 01:04 |
| Sl4y3r | i have 2 computers running the same xubuntu kernel and ones alot slower | 01:05 |
| Sl4y3r | could it be caused from the other one needing a non-generic kernel? | 01:05 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: yes of course: de_DE.utf-8 (@ euro) | 01:05 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: you already said that, and yes, a slow graphics card driver would make everything seem slow | 01:05 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: what do you get from 'locale -a' | 01:06 |
| Sl4y3r | dont think its the graphics card or i wouldnt have asked a second question | 01:06 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: there are also other possibilities, but I can't think of anything especially likely | 01:06 |
| Bisclaveret | long live the esszet | 01:06 |
| TheSheep | Sl4y3r: you could check in the system monitor if there is some process taking up the cpu | 01:06 |
| TheSheep | Bisclaveret: how did you know? :P | 01:07 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: de_DE.utf-8 something, there is no GUI way to get rid of the utf-8, I was just wondering, if there is an non gui way | 01:07 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: yes, 'export LANG=de_DE' in /etc/environ, *provided* that you have that locale installed | 01:07 |
| Bisclaveret | TheSheep: i was born in Stuttgart but I don't know the language half-well :p | 01:08 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: doesn't work, I found that position already | 01:08 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: does 'locale -a' show it? | 01:08 |
| keb | a there it is: ß | 01:09 |
| Radlager | de_De would only change the behavior of things like three and half liter are in Germany written as 3,5 (not 3.5) | 01:09 |
| Radlager | it is still a utf-8 machine, with iso8859 it doesn't work | 01:09 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: that's LC_NUMERIC | 01:10 |
| Radlager | of course I could live with utf-8, but if I log into a remote ISO machine, I am not able to use German Umlaute | 01:10 |
| TheSheep | RedHeron: LANG will change the encoding | 01:10 |
| RedHeron | Huh? | 01:11 |
| TheSheep | RedHeron: that's not true, if the remote machine is configured properly ssh will translate the encodings | 01:11 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: yes an LC_MONETARY etc also programs with NLS suddenly talk German to me, but it is a utf-8 machine still | 01:11 |
| RedHeron | You're not talking to me, then. | 01:11 |
| TheSheep | RedHeron: ah, sorry | 01:12 |
| RedHeron | np, just thought I'd find out who was beeping me. ;-) | 01:12 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: you can change encoding temporarily for one program by running 'export LANG=de_DE' before running that program | 01:12 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: for exmaple, 'export LANG=de_DE; xterm' will start xterm in iso-8859-1 mode | 01:13 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: yes, but it is all time a work around, actually the most comfortable way is to use putty, where you can easily save the the charset and used font | 01:14 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: but all this will only work if you actually have that locale installed, so can you tell me already if you do? | 01:14 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: you can also edit the .dmrc file in your home directory | 01:15 |
| Radlager | TheSheep: iI most get downstairs for it to check and pick up another glas of wine on the way, brb | 01:15 |
| Radlager | .dmrc ??? | 01:15 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: it's where the default settings from your login are stored | 01:15 |
| Radlager | dmrc first hit on google ... Delhi Metro Rail Corporation Ltd ... shit | 01:16 |
| TheSheep | Radlager: just edit that file with a text editor, it should be evident | 01:16 |
| === Lokian1_ is now known as Lokian | ||
| Lokian | Say, is there a website that has video guides to using Ubuntu and linux in general? | 01:22 |
| utf8-Radlager | TheSheep, okay on my system are only de_DE locaes in /usr/lib/locale/ | 01:23 |
| TheSheep | Lokian: not sure about video, but there is the ubuntu desktop guide | 01:23 |
| TheSheep | utf8-Radlager: does 'locale -a' show them? | 01:24 |
| keb | Lokian : http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/roblimos_downloading_ubuntu_tutorial | 01:24 |
| Lokian | keb: Thanks! | 01:25 |
| keb | np | 01:25 |
| TheSheep | good night everyone | 01:26 |
| keb | ni | 01:26 |
| utf8-Radlager | TheSheep, I think I have it: /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de | 01:26 |
| utf8-Radlager | echo "de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15" >> /var/lib/locales/supported.d/de && dpkg-reconfigure locales | 01:27 |
| utf8-Radlager | brb, I am checking | 01:28 |
| Radlager | it works! | 01:32 |
| Radlager | thanks a lot TheSheep | 01:33 |
| douglas | hello | 02:05 |
| douglas | I just installed xubuntu | 02:23 |
| douglas | but i have no sound | 02:23 |
| douglas | any ideas | 02:23 |
| === Lokian__ is now known as Lokian | ||
| Dougy | hey | 02:42 |
| Dougy | i have xubuntu fresh install on an Acer Aspire 7720-6569 | 02:42 |
| Dougy | I have no sound at all | 02:42 |
| Dougy | Any idea? | 02:42 |
| Dougy | :( | 02:47 |
| Dougy | Nobody? | 02:54 |
| Dougy | Hello? | 03:11 |
| Lokian__ | How do I enable XDMCP in xubuntu? | 03:18 |
| Lokian__ | nevermind | 03:29 |
| Lokian__ | Anyone home? | 03:29 |
| === Lokian__ is now known as Lokian | ||
| Lokian__ | How do I figure out my IP? | 03:51 |
| Lokian___ | Oh no, it's...it's...the Colnel! | 04:08 |
| andrew[andrboot] | Hi; anyone able to help me get ATI/DRI support with a HD3850 ? | 05:57 |
| andrew[andrboot] | dual screen support... ? | 05:58 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| Lokian | How do I set up my xubuntu machine to allow traffic to pass thru it? | 06:59 |
| zoredache | !firestarter | Lokian | 07:00 |
| ubotu | Lokian: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). | 07:00 |
| zoredache | of course personally I prefer using firehol, but firestarter is the more popular choice | 07:00 |
| Lokian | But I don't want to use a firewall, I'm using moblock | 07:01 |
| zoredache | well you will need to use at least parts of the netfilter infrastructure to get get things going | 07:05 |
| Lokian | ok | 07:05 |
| zoredache | read through the howto, and/or look up iptables/netfilter on google | 07:06 |
| Lokian | ok thanks | 07:06 |
| === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Xubuntu 7.10 Released: http://xubuntu.org/get | Xubuntu 8.04 Beta Released, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/BetaAnnouncement/Xubuntu | ||
| === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Xubuntu 7.10 Released: http://xubuntu.org/get | Xubuntu 8.04 Beta Released, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/BetaAnnouncement/Xubuntu - i386 alternative broken | ||
| jandark | Hi , when I restart my system time change :( anybody know why that happened ? | 08:02 |
| === jandark is now known as Jandark[AwAy] | ||
| slimjimflim | jandark you might not have a cmos battery or it might be dead | 08:18 |
| Lokian | Anyone home? | 08:56 |
| === Jandark[AwAy] is now known as Jandark | ||
| Jandark | slimjimflim, mmm just houres changed and days did not change | 10:30 |
| Dougy | hey | 10:53 |
| Dougy | i have an xubuntu laptop but there is no sound | 10:53 |
| Dougy | any ideas | 10:53 |
| cody-somerville | Dougal, What version of Xubuntu? | 10:54 |
| cody-somerville | *Dougy | 10:54 |
| Dougy | Uhm | 10:55 |
| Dougy | The latest one off the site | 10:55 |
| Dougy | 7.10 | 10:56 |
| Dougy | :) | 10:56 |
| cody-somerville | Dougy, Internal or external speakers? | 10:57 |
| Dougy | internal | 10:57 |
| Dougy | on a laptop | 10:57 |
| cody-somerville | Can you paste the output of lsmod snd? | 10:58 |
| cody-somerville | err.. | 10:58 |
| cody-somerville | lsmod | grep snd | 10:58 |
| Dougy | i booted into livecd to reload it | 10:59 |
| Dougy | will doing it via lcd work | 10:59 |
| Dougy | live cd | 10:59 |
| cody-somerville | The live cd works fine? | 11:00 |
| Dougy | no sound | 11:00 |
| Dougy | but i mean will it affect the output whether its booted after installed to hdd | 11:00 |
| Dougy | or if i do it off of livecd it'll give same output (lsmod | grep snd) | 11:00 |
| cody-somerville | If it doesn't work on the live it won't magically work when installed | 11:00 |
| cody-somerville | Yes, it will give the same output | 11:00 |
| Dougy | www.pastebin.com/m1ea3a80c | 11:00 |
| cody-somerville | Says that post doesn't exist | 11:01 |
| Dougy | http://pastebin.com/m1ea3a80c | 11:01 |
| Dougy | even | 11:01 |
| Dougy | yeah, try second url | 11:01 |
| Dougy | imma reload it now so i can get it to work | 11:01 |
| cody-somerville | Try changing the sound system from alsa to oss | 11:02 |
| Dougy | well, have a fresh bas | 11:02 |
| Dougy | e | 11:02 |
| Dougy | how would i do that | 11:02 |
| cody-somerville | System > Preferences > Sound | 11:02 |
| Dougy | system -> pref doesnt exist | 11:03 |
| cody-somerville | Are you sure? | 11:03 |
| Dougy | Yes. There's the one drop down, Applications | 11:03 |
| Dougy | under System | 11:03 |
| Dougy | there is no preferences | 11:03 |
| cody-somerville | Oh, sorry | 11:03 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 11:04 |
| cody-somerville | Open up the mixer | 11:04 |
| cody-somerville | And select the device from the menu | 11:04 |
| Dougy | settings -> mixer? | 11:04 |
| Dougy | open | 11:04 |
| cody-somerville | You can select the device in there | 11:05 |
| Dougy | Ok, I opened it, and chose device #0: HDA Intel | 11:05 |
| Dougy | and its Master,0 | 11:05 |
| * Dougy just does the install | 11:07 | |
| Dougy | ill tweak after install | 11:07 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, what do i do after i choose it | 11:07 |
| cody-somerville | Try increasing the volume? | 11:08 |
| cody-somerville | Play the music in the examples file | 11:08 |
| Dougy | doesn't work | 11:09 |
| cody-somerville | What is the laptop model? | 11:09 |
| Dougy | Acer Aspire 7720-6569 | 11:10 |
| Dougy | :) | 11:15 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, any further ideas | 11:19 |
| cody-somerville | Dougy, no sorry | 11:20 |
| cody-somerville | It should work | 11:20 |
| Dougy | Should, but doesn't :( | 11:20 |
| Dougy | Anyone else have any ideas? | 11:21 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville: is there an easy way to switch to oss and try it? | 11:21 |
| cody-somerville | What kind of sound card does the laptop? | 11:23 |
| Dougy | sec | 11:27 |
| Dougy | dont know | 11:28 |
| Dougy | googling | 11:28 |
| cody-somerville | !sound | Dougy | 11:29 |
| ubotu | Dougy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 11:29 |
| Dougy | ty | 11:30 |
| Dougy | my laptop isnt on their friggin site | 11:31 |
| Dougy | wtf | 11:31 |
| Dougy | there is no file -> | 11:32 |
| Dougy | wtf | 11:32 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, lspci says its an Intel Corporation 82801 HD audio | 11:33 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel I'm an ICH8 | 11:34 |
| Dougy | there is none there. | 11:34 |
| cody-somerville | Dougy, http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/ | 11:37 |
| cody-somerville | Dougal, Enable backports in the Software Sources and install the linux-backports-modules-generic package | 11:39 |
| cody-somerville | *Dougy | 11:39 |
| * Dougy tries | 11:39 | |
| * Dougy reboots laptop | 11:40 | |
| Dougy | k | 11:42 |
| Dougy | ill test in a while | 11:42 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, trying now | 12:10 |
| Dougy | nope | 12:16 |
| horvatj73 | may anyone tell me if it is possible | 12:19 |
| horvatj73 | to get an xubuntu working | 12:19 |
| horvatj73 | without any window manager | 12:19 |
| horvatj73 | just X11 | 12:19 |
| ablomen | sure, but that kinda defeats the purpose of xubuntu | 12:20 |
| Dougy | Lol. | 12:20 |
| horvatj73 | so to say: a minimized version for an embedded device... | 12:20 |
| Dougy | ablomen, do you have any idea about my issue | 12:20 |
| ablomen | Dougy, no idea sorry, never had problems with sound myself | 12:20 |
| Dougy | : | 12:20 |
| Dougy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller | 12:21 |
| Dougy | i'm trying that | 12:21 |
| ablomen | horvatj73, just use debian for that | 12:21 |
| ablomen | or ubuntu server edition if you really want the ubuntu repo's | 12:21 |
| ablomen | Dougy, lol ehm its a pretty big list, you have to be more specific | 12:22 |
| horvatj73 | okay, I'll give it a try (ubuntu server ed) | 12:22 |
| Dougy | ablomen, i tried #2 | 12:23 |
| Dougy | the build alsa | 12:23 |
| Dougy | now the volume control has like 7 options instead of three | 12:23 |
| Dougy | so that must've worked | 12:23 |
| ablomen | but? | 12:24 |
| Dougy | no sound | 12:24 |
| ablomen | hmm well i really have no idea sorry | 12:24 |
| ablomen | you could try asking in #ubuntu | 12:24 |
| ablomen | there are a "few" more people there ;) | 12:25 |
| Dougy | got one more idea. | 12:25 |
| Dougy | then i will | 12:25 |
| Dougy | got it | 12:27 |
| Dougy | :) | 12:27 |
| Dougy | for an acer laptop when there is no sound | 12:28 |
| Dougy | edit /etcin /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | 12:28 |
| Dougy | add | 12:28 |
| Dougy | options snd-hda-intel model=acer | 12:28 |
| Dougy | :) | 12:28 |
| TrioTorus | hi all, congrats on the nice xubuntu distro. This has been asked before I'm sure, but can somebody give me an update on when thunar will include network browsing? | 12:29 |
| TrioTorus | Does it depend on the new gnome-vfs? | 12:30 |
| Dougy | Thanks ablomen and cody-somerville | 12:34 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 12:34 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, much appreciated | 12:35 |
| Dougy | keep that fix in mind, might help someone else in need one day :) | 12:35 |
| Dougy | thanks again guys, i owe you | 12:35 |
| cody-somerville | thanks for coming in | 12:37 |
| Dougy | cody-somerville, one quick question | 12:37 |
| Dougy | how do you screenshot in xfce :) | 12:37 |
| cody-somerville | Add the screenshot panel applet | 12:38 |
| cody-somerville | and click it | 12:38 |
| schranze | Hallo | 12:53 |
| schranze | bin grad am googlen wie man bei acroread die Pfadangabe richtig zum Printserver cups setzt | 12:53 |
| maxamillion | i'm really sorry, but i only speak english | 12:54 |
| schranze | ah okay | 12:55 |
| cody-somerville | What language is that? Malay? | 12:55 |
| schranze | i am searching for the config to printing server cups in program acroread | 12:56 |
| schranze | there is a choice in acroread direct to the printer, but i need this link to cups | 12:57 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, Coming to the Xubuntu meeting on Wednesday? | 13:03 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-March/005242.html | 13:03 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: maybe | 13:03 |
| === Mattz is now known as MatBoy | ||
| theunixgeek | I'm surprised at how much faster the torrent download for the Xubuntu Hardy Beta. 15 KB/s for the server, 300 KB/s bittorrent :) | 15:47 |
| maxamillion | theunixgeek: torrent is a wonderful thing | 15:49 |
| maxamillion | theunixgeek: what torrent client you use? | 15:49 |
| theunixgeek | maxamillion: transmission on os x :) | 15:50 |
| theunixgeek | maxamillion: that's where I need to run the emulator for xubuntu | 15:50 |
| theunixgeek | maxamillion: but I'm talking to you right now from my ubuntu desktop | 15:50 |
| maxamillion | theunixgeek: ah ok | 15:51 |
| maxamillion | theunixgeek: well if you are ever looking for a torrent client for linux, i recommend deluge torrent :) | 15:51 |
| theunixgeek | maxamillion: I'll google it :) | 15:53 |
| maxamillion | theunixgeek: okies :) ... i just really like it and think others would too so i attempt to advertise for it whenever i am able | 15:53 |
| theunixgeek | :) | 15:54 |
| HACKhalo2 | Xubuntu 8.04 has Transmission built into it | 15:54 |
| TMN | hi, anyone have an idea how xubuntu 7.10 will run on a 455mhz 128mb machine? I'm getting the alternate cd right now because it froze at livecd session when i tried it | 15:55 |
| HACKhalo2 | you got it right, use the altCD | 15:55 |
| cody-somerville | TMN: I'd try to upgrade your ram | 15:55 |
| HACKhalo2 | your computer doesn't have enough RAM to support the Live CD | 15:55 |
| maxamillion | TMN: the live installer needs 192mb of ram to work, but the alternate installer will be fine and once its installed it should perform wonderfully but since there is a small amount of ram you will have some lag when launching "heavier" programs | 15:56 |
| * cody-somerville notes that someone told him today that the memory consumption is down in 8.04. | 15:56 | |
| TMN | ok. maybe i can take one from downstairs | 15:57 |
| TMN | thanks | 15:57 |
| TMN | is there no livesession installer for 8.04 beta? | 15:57 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: you wanna take that one? .... i haven't been involved in the development process in over a year | 15:58 |
| HACKhalo2 | cody-somersville: I can agree with that. I'm running 8.04a3 and it runs so nicely on my low RAM lappy | 15:58 |
| cody-somerville | There is a live cd for 8.04, yes. | 15:58 |
| TMN | i mean non-live cd installer | 15:59 |
| maxamillion | xubuntu ran so much nicer before jani slaped it with half the gnome-libs in existance >.> | 15:59 |
| * maxamillion grumbles off | 15:59 | |
| cody-somerville | Adding the gnome-libs had minimal performance impact | 16:00 |
| cody-somerville | The performance slow down was from the core ubuntu getting slower | 16:00 |
| cody-somerville | Specifically, font rendering and the like | 16:00 |
| HACKhalo2 | i think 8.04 fixes that | 16:00 |
| cody-somerville | People will have to do tests to determine that | 16:01 |
| cody-somerville | However, people are reporting 8.04 is faster than 7.10 | 16:01 |
| HACKhalo2 | much | 16:02 |
| HACKhalo2 | i like it | 16:02 |
| HACKhalo2 | it fixes the lag my lappy had with my keyboard | 16:02 |
| HACKhalo2 | it also boots up quicker | 16:02 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: well that's good | 16:03 |
| cody-somerville | However, I've successfully removed openoffice.org from being shipped today so I'm happy :) | 16:03 |
| maxamillion | oooo, good good | 16:04 |
| maxamillion | been reverted back to abiword and gnumeric? | 16:04 |
| cody-somerville | Well, we had been using that, yes. | 16:04 |
| cody-somerville | but openoffice.org was being included in the cd | 16:04 |
| cody-somerville | I've managed to rid the cd of it | 16:04 |
| cody-somerville | so more space for other stuff! :) | 16:04 |
| HACKhalo2 | the live install CD? | 16:05 |
| K4k | ok, so I'm sorta newish to xfce and I'm trying to install a different icon theme, I made a ~/.icons directory and extracted the theme zip file into there, but when I go to change my icon themes, it isn't showing up. I did this on my laptop and it worked just fine with this same theme but my desktop won't do it, anyone have any ideas? | 16:06 |
| theblue | hi all. | 16:08 |
| maxamillion | hello | 16:08 |
| K4k | any ideas what's going on with my icon theme anyone? | 16:08 |
| theunixgeek | K4k: you don't need to do all that | 16:09 |
| maxamillion | K4k: not sure why that didn't work, but you could always just extract it in /usr/share/icons/ as root (make sure to set the permissions to the directory to match the others though) | 16:09 |
| cody-somerville | It should work | 16:09 |
| cody-somerville | !icons-theme | 16:09 |
| cody-somerville | !icons | 16:09 |
| theunixgeek | K4k: open up the theme manager and drag the .tar.gz or whatever into the window. | 16:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about icons-theme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 16:09 |
| * cody-somerville sighs. | 16:09 | |
| ubotu | Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE) | 16:09 |
| K4k | theunixgeek, I tried that and it didn't work... | 16:09 |
| K4k | maxamillion, I put it in there too after it didn't work in ~/.icons | 16:09 |
| theunixgeek | K4k: never mind then | 16:10 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, want to do me a favour? | 16:10 |
| K4k | maxamillion, lemme check the permissions though | 16:10 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: shoot | 16:10 |
| maxamillion | K4k: okies | 16:10 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, Will you see if the the beta for Xubuntu live cd will load with 128mb of ram | 16:10 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: yup, got a url for the download? | 16:10 |
| K4k | maxamillion, it's in there with the same permissions | 16:11 |
| cody-somerville | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/beta/ | 16:11 |
| maxamillion | K4k: interesting .... | 16:12 |
| K4k | maxamillion, yea, do there have to be any special permissions on ~/.icons? | 16:12 |
| maxamillion | K4k: there shouldn't be, if you unpack as your user into a directory your user owns then you should have full permissions on it | 16:13 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: wow that mirror is horribly slow | 16:13 |
| K4k | maxamillion, that's what I thought...hmm | 16:13 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: i'm sitting at about 60k/s ... i pulled an image from mirrors.kernel.org at like 8mb/s an hour ago | 16:13 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, want to try a different mirror? | 16:15 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: sure | 16:15 |
| cody-somerville | what country? | 16:15 |
| K4k | maxamillion, the only thing I saw out of the ordinary was that the directory for the icons was owned by root, so I changed that to my user but it's still not there, I'm going to keep looking though, i think it's a permissions issue | 16:17 |
| maxamillion | hmmm... that is strange | 16:17 |
| K4k | I know why though, I was root when I unpacked it | 16:18 |
| * K4k smacks head | 16:18 | |
| maxamillion | :D | 16:18 |
| * maxamillion has done that before | 16:18 | |
| maxamillion | accept on a server | 16:18 |
| maxamillion | spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong just to find out the process owner couldn't access its config file | 16:19 |
| K4k | haha | 16:19 |
| K4k | can you do chown -r? | 16:19 |
| K4k | to change the owner of the dir and all contents? | 16:19 |
| K4k | o, it's -R, nvm | 16:20 |
| K4k | grrr, still can't see it | 16:20 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, how goes it? | 16:28 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: slow and steady | 16:28 |
| alex_mayorga | hi, is the ISO still overweight? | 16:28 |
| HACKhalo2 | why can't you use the development feature to update to Hardy Beta? | 16:29 |
| maxamillion | alex_mayorga: no | 16:29 |
| cody-somerville | The alternative i386 iso is overweight | 16:30 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: because i don't run xubuntu, i left the project over a year ago ... i just hand out in the channel because i like the community | 16:30 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: my mistake | 16:30 |
| HACKhalo2 | ah | 16:30 |
| HACKhalo2 | i was just saying as if the ISO was overweight, why not do it within Xubuntu | 16:30 |
| HACKhalo2 | instead of using a CD? | 16:31 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: i used to be a contributor to project development, documentation, etc.. but some internal things went wrong and i decided to leave but i still help out when cody-somerville asks me too because he and i are friends | 16:31 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 16:31 |
| maxamillion | :) | 16:31 |
| HACKhalo2 | i get that | 16:32 |
| HACKhalo2 | what im saying is why not update Xubuntu within Xubuntu? | 16:32 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: because i don't have xubuntu, i have to download it first | 16:32 |
| cody-somerville | I'm asking him to try the live cd in a VM limited to 128mb of ram | 16:32 |
| HACKhalo2 | using the development flag when running the update manager | 16:32 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: i think i might be misunderstanding what you are asking of me | 16:33 |
| HACKhalo2 | in general, not towards anyone | 16:33 |
| * cody-somerville is already running Hardy :) | 16:33 | |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: oh, you could just edit you /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and everything would in theory be perfectly fine | 16:33 |
| maxamillion | s/you/your | 16:33 |
| zoredache | are you asking if you can upgrade? The answer should be yes... | 16:34 |
| HACKhalo2 | right | 16:34 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: i wouldn't recommend using the update manager to do it though, i would edit the sources.list and use apt-get .... less possibility of things going wrong | 16:34 |
| HACKhalo2 | basically saying, if the ISO was unsuable, couldn't you just update within Xubuntu | 16:34 |
| HACKhalo2 | ah | 16:34 |
| maxamillion | HACKhalo2: yes, you could | 16:35 |
| cody-somerville | Actually, the update-manager is generally safer | 16:35 |
| cody-somerville | It is "smart" | 16:35 |
| HACKhalo2 | and i'm not that Unix savy in order to use apt-get | 16:35 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 16:35 | |
| cody-somerville | Use the update-manager | 16:35 |
| HACKhalo2 | which i use with the -d flag | 16:36 |
| HACKhalo2 | i just can't update now because my lappy charger took a dump | 16:37 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: accept that its often bug-ridden | 16:37 |
| cody-somerville | update-manager --devel-release will update you to 8.04 | 16:37 |
| HACKhalo2 | i did update-manager -d to update to 8.04a3 | 16:38 |
| cody-somerville | -d is probably short for --devel-release | 16:38 |
| HACKhalo2 | maybe | 16:38 |
| cody-somerville | It is | 16:39 |
| HACKhalo2 | i just did what the wiki told me to | 16:39 |
| cody-somerville | update-manager -d and update-manager --devel-release do the same thing | 16:39 |
| maxamillion | wiki is generally good about sending you in the right direction | 16:39 |
| HACKhalo2 | i just need to figure out how to get the source code for the Xfce4-battery-plugin | 16:40 |
| cody-somerville | why? | 16:40 |
| cody-somerville | the command is apt-get source xfce4-battery-plugin btw | 16:40 |
| HACKhalo2 | i want to dabble in coding | 16:41 |
| cody-somerville | Okay | 16:41 |
| HACKhalo2 | make it like the GNOME counterpart | 16:41 |
| zoredache | there is also links to the source packages from packages.ubuntu.org | 16:42 |
| HACKhalo2 | that confuses the hell outta me | 16:43 |
| HACKhalo2 | lol | 16:43 |
| zoredache | what confuses you? | 16:47 |
| HACKhalo2 | the whole packages part of ubuntu | 16:48 |
| HACKhalo2 | i tried that once | 16:48 |
| zoredache | HACKhalo2: if you are into learning you might take a look at <?php | 16:49 |
| zoredache | ack | 16:49 |
| HACKhalo2 | i already have a decent PHP background | 16:49 |
| zoredache | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFzPrzY2KFM - Anatomy Of A Debian Package | 16:49 |
| HACKhalo2 | oh | 16:50 |
| zoredache | sorry, my clipboard didn't have what I wanted in it | 16:50 |
| zoredache | that was a neat leacture a guy did a google that went over how exactly a package is made and how to work with it | 16:51 |
| HACKhalo2 | ah | 16:52 |
| zoredache | or if learn more by reading, check out the debian new maintainers guide | 16:54 |
| cody-somerville | maxamillion, how goes it? | 17:23 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: only at 29% downloaded | 17:24 |
| cody-somerville | :( | 17:25 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: i have downloaded 2 dvd images while this has been running | 17:25 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: it won't go over 60kb/s | 17:25 |
| cody-somerville | try a different mirror? | 17:25 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: i don't have one | 17:25 |
| cody-somerville | just use the ones from xubuntu.org/get | 17:25 |
| maxamillion | ah ok | 17:30 |
| * cody-somerville ponders. | 18:20 | |
| cody-somerville | Whats with all the clones? | 18:20 |
| * cody-somerville pokes Pumpernickel. | 18:20 | |
| cody-somerville | Must be connection issue | 18:40 |
| Besnik_b | I installed Xubuntu, but it does not start the X server. I changed some settings in xorg.conf, as part of a trying. How do I start X manyally now? | 18:51 |
| alex_mayorga | wow xubuntu 8.04 download is slooow | 18:54 |
| cody-somerville | alex_mayorga, I'll update the list of mirrors | 18:55 |
| alex_mayorga | cody-somerville: even the torrent is slow | 18:56 |
| alex_mayorga | it reports there are 11 hours to go :( | 18:56 |
| slow-motion | hi | 18:58 |
| gaurdro | hello | 19:00 |
| cody-somerville | Okay | 19:07 |
| cody-somerville | Release announcement updated with 15 new mirrors | 19:07 |
| gaurdro | besnik_b: gdm or kdm or startx | 19:20 |
| maxamillion | or xdm or startxfce or startkde or telinit 5 (depending on your distro) | 19:21 |
| cody-somerville | "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"? :) | 19:24 |
| elia_ | hi guys | 19:28 |
| elia_ | could someone help me??? | 19:28 |
| elia_ | could someone help me??? | 19:28 |
| cody-somerville | !ask | 19:28 |
| ubotu | Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 19:28 |
| elia_ | whooo what a chann... | 19:29 |
| Stroganoff | ^^ | 19:29 |
| elia_ | so | 19:29 |
| elia_ | i installed ndiswrapper with my driver's inf file on it but i still dontt have wifi and iyt worked when i had ubuntu | 19:30 |
| gaurdro | how did you install xubuntu? (I'm assuming that's what you have) | 19:31 |
| elia_ | live cd | 19:31 |
| gaurdro | does iwconfig give you any interfaces that have wireless extensions? | 19:33 |
| elia_ | i'll just type iwconfig and copy you what he gives me | 19:33 |
| gaurdro | copy it to pastebin, so you don't flood the channel. | 19:33 |
| gaurdro | http://pastebin.com/ | 19:34 |
| elia_ | elia@elia-laptop:~$ iwconfig | 19:34 |
| elia_ | lo no wireless extensions. | 19:34 |
| elia_ | eth0 no wireless extensions. | 19:34 |
| elia_ | eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:off/any Nickname:"Broadcom 4311" Mode:Managed Access Point: Invalid RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=-256 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 | 19:34 |
| elia_ | elia@elia-laptop:~$ | 19:34 |
| elia_ | woops | 19:34 |
| elia_ | didn't read this before i pasted it | 19:34 |
| elia_ | sorry | 19:34 |
| gaurdro | it's detecting your wireless card, eth1. in your panel do you have the network manager running? | 19:35 |
| elia_ | dunno i'm using the cable right now | 19:36 |
| elia_ | but my wifi light th'ats suposed to beblue isn't | 19:37 |
| gaurdro | it should still show up in your panel. | 19:37 |
| elia_ | it should... | 19:37 |
| elia_ | but i don't see anything | 19:37 |
| gaurdro | in a terminal type 'nm-applet' | 19:37 |
| gaurdro | does anything new show up in your panel? | 19:38 |
| elia_ | i don't have anything | 19:38 |
| elia_ | my nick}@comuter doesn't appear neither after that | 19:39 |
| gaurdro | well, a new instance is running, it's still attached to that terminal so it shouldn't return you to the prompt | 19:40 |
| gaurdro | brb | 19:40 |
| elia_ | uh?? what do i have to do? | 19:41 |
| elia_ | pff tired.. i'll just leave that for tomorow and whatch a stupid thing at the tv to to relax my poor head tht is in hollyday since last weak | 19:44 |
| elia_ | bye | 19:44 |
| douglas | I'm having a problem | 20:03 |
| douglas | I have music cd's | 20:03 |
| douglas | and i get a mount error when i try to put it in and read it | 20:03 |
| douglas | mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only | 20:04 |
| douglas | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, | 20:04 |
| cody-somerville | The Xubuntu alternative cds are now available for 8.04 Beta for testing. | 20:34 |
| cody-somerville | Feel free to help test them out at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all | 20:35 |
| cody-somerville | Once we get enough successful reports, we'll be able to release the alternative image :) | 20:35 |
| cody-somerville | The ISOs can be found at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ | 20:36 |
| gaurdro | I'll see what i can do about install it on my sandbox this evening. | 20:38 |
| alex_mayorga | cody-somerville, when to use alternate? | 20:40 |
| cody-somerville | alex_mayorga, hmm? | 20:41 |
| alex_mayorga | I'm planning to install xubuntu for my mom on and old pentium II machine and I wonder if 8.04 would break for her | 20:43 |
| alex_mayorga | also the downloads from the mirrors are also very slow, so seem I've seetled with the 7.10 torrent | 20:44 |
| gaurdro | !alternate | 20:46 |
| ubotu | The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal | 20:46 |
| alex_mayorga | guardro: are you recommending alternate for my use case | 20:54 |
| gaurdro | I just posted that as what the alternate cd install actually is, I would suggest trying the livecd since it's generally easier to work with. then if that doesn't work try the alternate or minimal cd. | 20:55 |
| alex_mayorga | gaurdro: thanks on your suggestion | 21:00 |
| cody-somerville | You need atleast 192mb of ram to install with the live cd | 21:02 |
| alex_mayorga | we have 256 I believe | 21:04 |
| cody-somerville | Okay. | 21:06 |
| douglas | hm | 21:14 |
| douglas | is there a good app like WMP for Linux | 21:14 |
| douglas | i'd like it to rip music from a CD and store it | 21:14 |
| douglas | and playbakc | 21:14 |
| douglas | playback | 21:14 |
| ant0n | audacius? | 21:14 |
| ant0n | Ah, no idea | 21:14 |
| douglas | That's something they need | 21:15 |
| douglas | a big mainstream one for Linux. | 21:16 |
| ant0n | Ok | 21:17 |
| Stroganoff | douglas, have you tried rythmbox or kaffeine? | 21:17 |
| ant0n | Det var aldeles för enkelt att ta bort panelerna så det blev svårt att göra det :p | 21:17 |
| ant0n | Sorry, posted in wrong channel. | 21:18 |
| slimjimflim | nein | 21:21 |
| slimjimflim | nien | 21:21 |
| slimjimflim | ser gut | 21:21 |
| slimjimflim | einz svie drei | 21:21 |
| ant0n | Nicht deutsch :) | 21:21 |
| slimjimflim | oh | 21:22 |
| ant0n | fier f | 21:22 |
| slimjimflim | sweedish? | 21:22 |
| ant0n | English :) | 21:22 |
| ant0n | Yes, im swedish :P | 21:22 |
| slimjimflim | aha | 21:22 |
| ant0n | But the language here is English :) | 21:22 |
| slimjimflim | ok | 21:22 |
| ant0n | yes | 21:22 |
| slimjimflim | i don't know any swedish words | 21:22 |
| slimjimflim | 'hey lets go down to the fyord' | 21:23 |
| slimjimflim | lol | 21:23 |
| slimjimflim | no? | 21:23 |
| douglas | no | 21:23 |
| ant0n | Okej, here is some: "Hej" = "Hello" , "Hej Då" = "Bye Bye".. | 21:23 |
| TheSheep | douglas: you can rip music with sound juicer | 21:23 |
| ant0n | fyord? | 21:23 |
| slimjimflim | hey i'm in the wrong channel too | 21:24 |
| slimjimflim | no wonder i don't know any of you | 21:24 |
| ant0n | Try | 21:24 |
| ant0n | xubuntu- your country language | 21:24 |
| douglas | TheSheep: RhythmBox seems to do | 21:30 |
| Stroganoff | glad | 21:31 |
| charding | What is the ubuntu site where you can rate the idea to be implemented or have it worked on more in a future release? | 22:17 |
| charding | Basically like 'digging' a story, you can increase or decrease the rating/popularity | 22:19 |
| zoredache_ | charding: I suspect you are thinking of brainstorm http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ | 22:20 |
| charding | zoredache_: yes, thanks | 22:21 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| gerro | sup peoples | 22:44 |
| ant0n | sup? | 22:56 |
| ant0n | Sup as the swedish word for get drunk= | 22:56 |
| Lokian | Hi all | 23:13 |
| Lokian | Can anyone tell me how to set up VNC on my xubuntu machine and be able to connect to it from MS windows? | 23:15 |
| ere4si | !vnc | Lokian | 23:15 |
| ubotu | Lokian: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 23:15 |
| Lokian | Kinky, thanks | 23:16 |
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