| apachelogger | \sh_away: thanks for the revu :) | 00:17 |
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| ScottK2 | awen_: I don't find it in any way superior to apt. The times it can figure out a path that apt can't, I can manage and that's no real benifit compared it aptitude's cache getting confused and insisting my entire kde needs to be removed (has happened to me). | 00:19 |
| awen_ | ScottK2: I use both of them for different purposes... the aptitude safe-upgrade is good when running alpha and an upgraded package with missing dependencies is precent in the archive; and the console interface for looking at packages is also nice | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: gtk-qt-engine-kde4 is in the queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=gtk-qt | 00:22 |
| ScottK | apt-get dist-upgrade gets you the same thing. | 00:22 |
| awen_ | ScottK: you mean that apt-get upgrade = aptitude safe-upgrade ? | 00:23 |
| ScottK | Yes | 00:24 |
| ScottK | It used to be called aptitude dist-upgrade until the aptitued devs changed it for reasons that completely escape me. | 00:25 |
| awen_ | ScottK: aptitude still has dist-upgrade ... {safe|full|dist}-upgrade | 00:26 |
| * awen_ now sees that full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are synonyms | 00:28 | |
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| ForzaPalermo | anyone know how ot get system-config-samba with kde4? | 02:53 |
| nosrednaekim | ForzaPalermo: install the kde3 system settings. | 02:54 |
| ForzaPalermo | nosrednaekim, ? | 02:55 |
| ForzaPalermo | how do i do that? | 02:55 |
| nosrednaekim | wait... is that the kde3 system settings module, or the gnome module? | 02:56 |
| ForzaPalermo | it uses gnome | 02:57 |
| ForzaPalermo | had no problem with kde3 | 02:57 |
| ForzaPalermo | loads fine | 02:57 |
| ForzaPalermo | here it asks for my root password | 02:57 |
| ForzaPalermo | then nothing | 02:57 |
| nosrednaekim | ForzaPalermo: ah.. right, run it from the command line with "kdesudo <appname>" | 02:57 |
| ForzaPalermo | nothin | 02:59 |
| ForzaPalermo | kde 4 has been nothing but headaches :( | 02:59 |
| ForzaPalermo | any other ideas? | 03:01 |
| nosrednaekim | ForzaPalermo: if its a gtk app, try running it with gksu | 03:01 |
| ForzaPalermo | na, wont load | 03:02 |
| ForzaPalermo | there any debs around for the svn kde4.1 | 03:05 |
| nosrednaekim | not yet | 03:05 |
| nosrednaekim | you could go use debian though | 03:05 |
| ForzaPalermo | what do u mean? | 03:05 |
| ForzaPalermo | the distro? | 03:05 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah | 03:05 |
| ScottK2 | Is this Gutsy or Hardy? | 03:05 |
| nosrednaekim | debain has 4.1packages | 03:05 |
| nixternal | debian don't have theirs up yet if they are working on them | 03:05 |
| ForzaPalermo | those packages work with kubuntu? | 03:06 |
| ScottK2 | The Debian 4.1 snapshots aren't actually in Debian yet. | 03:06 |
| nosrednaekim | ForzaPalermo: no, no, i'm just saying that if you want to use 4.1 you will have to use debain | 03:06 |
| ForzaPalermo | alright thanks guys | 03:08 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: only because i'm not there :P | 06:00 |
| nixternal | but you are here :p | 06:26 |
| nixternal | nixternal->sleep(); | 06:27 |
| nixternal | k'nite | 06:27 |
| * Jucato follows suite | 06:27 | |
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| stdin | hmm, why is bug number 1 on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu ? | 08:20 |
| jussio1 | stdin: LOL that very funny | 08:26 |
| Nookie^ | hi someone told me yesterday where i could find kubuntu logos and ubuntu on ubuntupage | 10:39 |
| Nookie^ | does anyone know the link | 10:39 |
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| Noq^ | Riddell: when you come back.. i need to leave now. here is a image for RC i have created.. http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3138/kubuntuboxnookiekw9.png | 11:32 |
| stdin | Noq^: try https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Official | 11:32 |
| Noq^ | stdin: found it but thanx anyway | 11:33 |
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| fregl | after updating to hardy my kde3 splash shows no graphics | 11:55 |
| fregl | and during the update when asked to choose which config file should be used the "Next>>" buttons are irritating as they make the dialog appear sometimes | 11:56 |
| fregl | that made me think it crashed at first | 11:56 |
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| yao_ziyuan | trying kubuntu 8.04 beta in vbox | 13:30 |
| yao_ziyuan | seems the default wallpaper has been replaced | 13:30 |
| yao_ziyuan | probably due to the aspect ratio problem | 13:30 |
| yao_ziyuan | i can't say anything now... | 13:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | the default style and window decoration isn't as good as 7.10's | 13:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | i want polyester back! | 13:34 |
| nosrednaekim | yao_ziyuan: then get it back | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | i think the best combination is polyester style + polyester window | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | and 8.04 beta's wallpaper is too mundane | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | that Tend To Zero is actually a very good and inspiring one | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | it just can't adapt to different screen resolutions | 13:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | there is a workaround: | 13:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | by default, use "Scale & Crop" as the wallpaper drawing option | 13:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | or better: if the current wallpaper is not exactly the same size as the current screen, then automatically set to "Scale & Crop" as the default | 13:37 |
| Dekans | I get an issue with kdm on hardy beta | 13:39 |
| Dekans | if I logout, i get a black screen | 13:40 |
| nosrednaekim | Dekans: do you have an ATI card? | 13:40 |
| Dekans | no it's a nvidia | 13:40 |
| yao_ziyuan | i know you guys want to mimic windows xp... | 13:40 |
| yao_ziyuan | makes it look as dumb as possible | 13:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | so the dumb majority will adopt it... | 13:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | you know, win xp is dumb... | 13:41 |
| nosrednaekim | Dekans: you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1... | 13:41 |
| nosrednaekim | if they can't solve it, file a bug | 13:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | i played with PCLinuxOS 2007. its look is most similar to xp | 13:43 |
| Dekans | okay I'll do it | 13:44 |
| yao_ziyuan | let me tell you guys what looks good: | 13:47 |
| yao_ziyuan | 1. Polyester style + Polyester window + default kubuntu 7.10 color scheme: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/workspace080228.png?gda=eagiskQAAACGqirY5nHUpt9oVyi7lmg1Ryes1Ae_r_26J5OutG9lVGG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDSi_7LkP3M6egTwwyaOk0t9IegfnwZa-Ew6rpGDNRO6hA | 13:48 |
| yao_ziyuan | 2. Polyester style + Polyester window + kubuntu 7.10's "Polyester Orange" color scheme + Tend-To-Zero-(Hot) wallpaper: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/%E6%88%91%E7%9A%84%20%E6%BB%A1%E5%9C%B0%E7%BA%A2%20%E6%A1%8C%E9%9D%A2.png?gda=xDfmN3YAAACGqirY5nHUpt9oVyi7lmg1Ryes1Ae_r_26J5OutG9lVGG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDRuvQL_2aXrHpkK98OZ1RGXS7Uak5YB2GYUdUKhqhlpDB9QO5YuzggilrGxGjW-AoqBnU_2Acz3tqO4i2KXL8AQT4UiRSvtnlU6232iqWRRZQ | 13:49 |
| yao_ziyuan | those who don't think they're beautiful, raise your hands | 13:49 |
| jpatrick | ... | 13:50 |
| Hobbsee | those poly-orange buttons don't look too great. | 13:51 |
| Hobbsee | yao_ziyuan: btw, it's a holiday in most countries, and a wekeend. | 13:52 |
| yao_ziyuan | Hobbsee: buttons? aren't they the same buttons just with a different color scheme | 14:03 |
| Hobbsee | yao_ziyuan: yeah, but it really shows them up as looking quite dirty | 14:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | dirty? i think the window titlebar buttons (minimize, maximize, close) are a little dirty | 14:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | but the pushbuttons are good | 14:03 |
| Hobbsee | wintitle ones were what i meant | 14:04 |
| yao_ziyuan | i think so too | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | too late for hardy, though, and most of the artists don't read irc | 14:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | but after a while i think it's a feature :) | 14:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | not too late | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | you've hit UI freeze. | 14:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | these things can change in the last minute | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | long ago | 14:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | don't be so inflexible | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | .... | 14:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | i agree that Polyester's "Glass window buttons" are dirty | 14:06 |
| yao_ziyuan | but when applied with Kubuntu 7.10's default color scheme, it becomes so good: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/workspace080228.png?gda=eagiskQAAACGqirY5nHUpt9oVyi7lmg1Ryes1Ae_r_26J5OutG9lVGG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDSi_7LkP3M6egTwwyaOk0t9IegfnwZa-Ew6rpGDNRO6hA | 14:07 |
| yao_ziyuan | this one is not dirty, right? | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | .... | 14:07 |
| yao_ziyuan | if only it can have a red version, too | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: speaking of which, you're not planning to put a new default windeco into hardy now, are you? | 14:08 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: or are all the books, etc, not using kubuntu? | 14:10 |
| yao_ziyuan | that ugliness is due to Polyester's "button style". it can be Glass, Gradient, Reverse Gradient, Flat | 14:10 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: he's out till tomorrow | 14:10 |
| yao_ziyuan | Glass causes the dirtiness | 14:10 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: yeah, thought so | 14:10 |
| yao_ziyuan | there is another way: | 14:14 |
| yao_ziyuan | Kubuntu 7.10's Polyester Orange Juice color scheme + Polyester style + Crystal window | 14:14 |
| yao_ziyuan | this creates a red look without ugly window buttons | 14:14 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm, looks like qtcurve is supposed to have gone thru | 14:15 |
| Hobbsee | so much for UI freezes or anything. | 14:15 |
| yao_ziyuan | but Crystal window has its own problems. ignore me. | 14:16 |
| yao_ziyuan | consider this look for 8.04: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/workspace080228.png?gda=eagiskQAAACGqirY5nHUpt9oVyi7lmg1Ryes1Ae_r_26J5OutG9lVGG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDSi_7LkP3M6egTwwyaOk0t9IegfnwZa-Ew6rpGDNRO6hA | 14:19 |
| Hobbsee | yao_ziyuan: have you seen the release schedule? | 14:19 |
| yao_ziyuan | ... | 14:19 |
| yao_ziyuan | the wallpaper is optional | 14:19 |
| yao_ziyuan | it has a meaning for me personally | 14:19 |
| Hobbsee | particularly the part on UI freeze? | 14:20 |
| yao_ziyuan | the day i registered to my college is a rainy day | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | which was...a month ago? | 14:20 |
| yao_ziyuan | let's twist time | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | and notify anyone who's planning to publish books with screenshots of kubuntu hardy, which will now be obsolete. yes. | 14:21 |
| nosrednaekim | sounds like an awesome plan.... so good for our reputation. | 14:21 |
| Hobbsee | exactly. | 14:21 |
| yao_ziyuan | i think people can still understand illustrations in books | 14:22 |
| yao_ziyuan | and they will so appreciate that the actual distro has a better look | 14:22 |
| * Hobbsee decides to walk away, instead of further arguing. | 14:23 | |
| yao_ziyuan | let 7.10 users judge | 14:23 |
| * Hobbsee will likely stamp it with the big rubber "no" stamp, when it gets to the ubuntu release team. | 14:23 | |
| yao_ziyuan | i think many of them will go back with Polyester | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | they needed to have a poll and decide months ago. | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | like, >1 month. | 14:24 |
| yao_ziyuan | was there a poll? | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | did you set one up? | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | did you email the kubuntu-developers ML with these mockups at all, any time in the past 2 months? | 14:25 |
| yao_ziyuan | i thought the alpha 6 look is final | 14:26 |
| yao_ziyuan | sigh | 14:26 |
| yao_ziyuan | i didn't expect someone changed it all | 14:27 |
| yao_ziyuan | probably with evil intention | 14:27 |
| yao_ziyuan | a microsoft spook | 14:27 |
| * Hobbsee is fairly certain those with commit rights are not evil. | 14:27 | |
| yao_ziyuan | if so many developers and testers didn't notice the look change is a regression, then maybe it's acceptable... | 14:28 |
| yao_ziyuan | this sleeping society... only me is waken... :) | 14:29 |
| * nosrednaekim watches the cluebat hit yao_ziyuan | 14:29 | |
| * Hobbsee is still uncertain as to why the licence wasn't checked on the original image, before putting it in... | 14:29 | |
| Hobbsee | nosrednaekim: i've not put on my "i am the release manager" hat yet. | 14:29 |
| nosrednaekim | Hobbsee: :) | 14:30 |
| Hobbsee | well, one of them. | 14:30 |
| * Hobbsee is double checking with the head RM first, but is fairly certain of what he'll say | 14:30 | |
| yao_ziyuan | start a coup | 14:30 |
| yao_ziyuan | overthrow the scheme | 14:30 |
| yao_ziyuan | *schedule | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | there are good reasons for the schedule. it's long been public. it's not my fault that you weren't organised. | 14:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | well, | 14:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | what if it's a bug? | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | then, as it's a UI change, it'll still need a UI exception, which i don't think you'll get at this point. | 14:32 |
| yao_ziyuan | well! | 14:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | there's still something you guys can do | 14:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | put Polyester back to the Styles list and Window Decorations list | 14:35 |
| yao_ziyuan | and add a "Kubuntu 7.10 color scheme" to the Color Schemes list | 14:36 |
| Hobbsee | you should be able to add colour schemes, or make a package of nice kubuntu colour schemes | 14:36 |
| Hobbsee | and stick it in universe, probably | 14:37 |
| yao_ziyuan | actually, i care more about the Languages feature | 14:37 |
| Hobbsee | so, have you gotten that fixed? | 14:37 |
| yao_ziyuan | no | 14:37 |
| yao_ziyuan | i want a simple Languages list | 14:37 |
| yao_ziyuan | where each item is an available language with a checkbox before it | 14:38 |
| Hobbsee | have you emailed the list saying what neesd to be done, and presented a patch? | 14:38 |
| yao_ziyuan | no patch | 14:38 |
| Hobbsee | if not both, have you at least done the first/ | 14:38 |
| yao_ziyuan | i did the first | 14:38 |
| Hobbsee | good. any traction? | 14:39 |
| yao_ziyuan | my bug report is about the scim setup | 14:42 |
| yao_ziyuan | but now i have a new demand: | 14:42 |
| yao_ziyuan | i just want a simple Language Selector like Ubuntu's and Fedora's | 14:42 |
| yao_ziyuan | it is a simple listbox control | 14:42 |
| yao_ziyuan | if the user wants to enable a language (including install if needed), he just checkes the checkbox before that language | 14:43 |
| yao_ziyuan | likewise he can uncheck a language | 14:43 |
| yao_ziyuan | if chinese is checked, scim will be automatically installed and configured and run | 14:43 |
| yao_ziyuan | Ubuntu and Fedora already can do that. i want kubuntu to do it also | 14:43 |
| jpatrick | is he gone? | 14:49 |
| nosrednaekim | seems to be :) | 14:50 |
| nosrednaekim | how do you add tabs to a tab widget in desginer-qt4? | 14:55 |
| jpatrick | right it and I think there's an option | 14:56 |
| nosrednaekim | ah.. its called a "page" | 14:56 |
| nosrednaekim | thanks | 14:56 |
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| davebv | hi! may I get support here for ebox in hardy? | 16:29 |
| ScottK2 | davebv: Try #ubuntu-server | 16:30 |
| davebv | ok! hanks | 16:31 |
| davebv | thanks | 16:31 |
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| jjesse | good afternoon, in kde4 and dolphin when i right click on a folder and select sharing, it is lookin gofr kcm4shell fileshell which can't be found, what is kcmshell4 fileshare | 18:21 |
| nosrednaekim | apparently a kde4 system settings module | 18:23 |
| nosrednaekim | not working here either | 18:23 |
| jjesse | hrmm so what would then be the easiest way to configure a folder for windows sharing? | 18:24 |
| nosrednaekim | and one which isn't installed | 18:24 |
| nosrednaekim | are you on kde4 only? no kde3 stuff around? | 18:25 |
| jjesse | kde4 so far | 18:26 |
| jjesse | fresh install of hardy kde4 | 18:26 |
| jjesse | well besides konversatation | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | hm, no filesharing kcm4 ... that sounds like a missing dependency | 18:26 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: yes but what dependcy and how can i help track it down? | 18:28 |
| * apachelogger diggs in | 18:30 | |
| apachelogger | jjesse: what does `dpkg -s kdebase-data-kde4` say? | 18:32 |
| jjesse | helps if i can spell :0 | 18:33 |
| jjesse | !pastebin | 18:33 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 18:33 |
| jjesse | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60576/ | 18:34 |
| jjesse | priority is optional | 18:34 |
| jjesse | but it is installed | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | ah | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | wrong package :D | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: `dpkg -s kdenetwork-filesharing-kde4` | 18:38 |
| jjesse | not installed and no info is available | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | there is the missing dep :) | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: thanks | 18:40 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: no thank you for helping | 18:40 |
| jjesse | do i have to restart to load that lib? | 18:41 |
| jjesse | cause still getting command not found | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | kbuildsycoca4 should fix it | 18:42 |
| jjesse | nope still gettting file not found | 18:43 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: are you in bug finding mode? :P | 18:45 |
| jjesse | sure why not :) | 18:45 |
| jjesse | anything i can do to help | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kcmshell4 filesharing | 18:46 |
| jjesse | ok let me paste bin as a long output | 18:47 |
| jjesse | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60580/ | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | ah | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | my bad, sorry | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | that should work | 18:48 |
| jjesse | correct that does work | 18:49 |
| jjesse | no worries on that | 18:49 |
| jjesse | however crashwhen i click on add | 18:49 |
| jjesse | would a back trace help or do i need some debugging package addedfirst? | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: you need kdenetwork-dbg-kde4 | 18:51 |
| yuriy | how about kde4libs-dbg? | 18:51 |
| jjesse | how bout both? | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | that is a dep of kdenetwork-dbg | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | dep == both + even more | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: please report this bug on bugs.kde.org if you have time | 18:52 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: sure i will do | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | thanks | 18:52 |
| jjesse | np thanks for the help | 18:52 |
| jjesse | i'll attach everything we did | 18:53 |
| jjesse | be back in a bit | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | who knows in which bzr branch kubuntu-kde4-meta resides? | 18:53 |
| jjesse | back | 19:19 |
| jjesse | filing bug right now | 19:19 |
| jjesse | !kde4 | 19:20 |
| ubotu | KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 | 19:20 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: what package does that go against? | 19:22 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159709 | 19:33 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 159709 in knetwork "unable to use file sharing through dolphin -- file not found" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:33 |
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| mhb | howdy, partners | 21:54 |
| mhb | how's everyone? hope well | 21:55 |
| mhb | happy Easter to everyone | 21:55 |
| mhb | do you know if anyone is going to do anything with the guidance configuration tools? | 21:55 |
| mhb | some new blood, volunteers and the like? | 21:56 |
| jpatrick | mhb: happy easter, mate, hope you're well too :) | 21:56 |
| mhb | or old dogs doing new tricks? | 21:56 |
| jpatrick | I know nosreakin's working on the printer thing | 21:57 |
| mhb | jpatrick: I'm very well, I've passed some small mid-term exams (is that how they're called?) last week, and I've got sunday and monday free | 21:57 |
| mhb | jpatrick: other than that, nobody spoke about pykde4 migration? | 21:57 |
| jpatrick | mid-term exams is the term :) | 21:58 |
| mhb | jpatrick: I think I'm going to check if I can still write some python today, so I'm checking first to avoid duplicating stuff | 21:58 |
| mhb | by the way, what's your opinion on this policykit stuff? | 21:59 |
| jpatrick | mhb: not much in the backlog... and our leader is off till tomorrow | 21:59 |
| mhb | are you seeing it as a neat feature or rather as a useless un-unix principle that worsens performance and complicates code? | 22:00 |
| mhb | (guess what my opinion is) | 22:00 |
| mhb | jpatrick: no opinion on it? | 22:02 |
| * jpatrick isn't up to date with teh policykit stuff | 22:02 | |
| mhb | jpatrick: no gnome on your system, eh? | 22:04 |
| mhb | ah, just the fellow I'd like to meet | 22:04 |
| mhb | hi nosrednaekim | 22:04 |
| mhb | hope you're doing well | 22:04 |
| nosrednaekim | hey mhb... I am kinda... a bit singed right now | 22:04 |
| jpatrick | mhb: no gnome what so ever, apart from the dependencies of vim-full | 22:04 |
| mhb | singed? what's that? | 22:04 |
| mhb | jpatrick: that explains it - the "Unlock" button is all over the gnome UI | 22:05 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: as in burnt..... just put out a mini-forest fire here | 22:05 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: as in wounded? Physically? | 22:05 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: or is it a metaphor I'm not getting? | 22:05 |
| nosrednaekim | uhh yeah.... literally, my hair is burnt and so are my eyebrows | 22:06 |
| jpatrick | .. | 22:07 |
| mhb | sorry | 22:09 |
| mhb | evil connection | 22:09 |
| nixternal | nosrednaekim: wth, don't you listen to Smokey the Bear? | 22:10 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:10 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: talk to my mom 'bout that | 22:10 |
| nixternal | I bet you stink...I hate that singe smell | 22:10 |
| nosrednaekim | threw out hot ashes... | 22:10 |
| nixternal | d'oh | 22:10 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: anyway, are you working on any of the guidance modules? | 22:10 |
| jpatrick | mhb: < nosrednaekim> uhh yeah.... literally, my hair is burnt and so are my eyebrows | 22:10 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: or do you know people are? | 22:10 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: I am working on system-config-printer.... but other than that I am not away of any development of guidance going on | 22:11 |
| nosrednaekim | and thats really not guidance | 22:11 |
| mhb | okay, thanks | 22:11 |
| nosrednaekim | I think only the wine configurator needs to get ported.... and I guess mountconfig | 22:13 |
| mhb | userconfig? | 22:13 |
| mhb | or is there a better tool for that in KDE4? | 22:14 |
| nosrednaekim | hrm... apparently that too. | 22:14 |
| mhb | I'm not really following the recent development there; I've never been attached to the KDE upstream project much. | 22:14 |
| mhb | too much design by committee for me, I guess :o) | 22:15 |
| nosrednaekim | you like benevolent dictator methods? | 22:15 |
| mhb | if I like the dictator, yes | 22:16 |
| nosrednaekim | benevolent or not? :o | 22:16 |
| mhb | non-benevolency has its advantages | 22:17 |
| mhb | people have the tendency to add countless features and overcomplicate | 22:17 |
| mhb | KDE UI is a good example | 22:17 |
| nosrednaekim | yup..... or remove countless feature... | 22:18 |
| mhb | that's me :o) | 22:18 |
| mhb | there's a thin line after which you should say "Stop. Do not add that - if you need stuff like this, it's time to learn Unix administration.: | 22:19 |
| mhb | " | 22:19 |
| mhb | and unix administrations == command line | 22:19 |
| mhb | no GUI tools should ever change that | 22:19 |
| nosrednaekim | yep | 22:19 |
| nosrednaekim | I agree | 22:19 |
| nosrednaekim | try to write a GUI for dpkg... | 22:20 |
| * nosrednaekim shudders | 22:20 | |
| mhb | many have tried, and failed :o) | 22:21 |
| mhb | I'm aiming low today - just port & polish some guidance tools | 22:21 |
| nosrednaekim | cool, the one that I would most like to see is mountconfig | 22:21 |
| nosrednaekim | thats the one which is most used IME | 22:22 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: right-o | 22:22 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: do you know whether gnome has such a tool? | 22:24 |
| mhb | I can't seem to find one | 22:24 |
| mhb | gnome == ubuntu's gnome for me | 22:24 |
| nosrednaekim | I believe they just got one in hardy... i'm not certain | 22:25 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: ah, you have the limited network connection at home, don't you | 22:25 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I can't ask you to take a look then :o) | 22:26 |
| mhb | nevermind | 22:26 |
| nosrednaekim | if I had hardy i'd grab it.... it wouldn't be that big.... but I don't | 22:27 |
| nosrednaekim | !find mount hardy | 22:33 |
| ubotu | Found: gnome-mount, kio-umountwrapper, libpam-mount, mount, asmounter (and 14 others) | 22:33 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: check out gnome-mount.... | 22:34 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: thanks | 22:37 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: that doesn't really configure anything, it's one of the horde of daemons that GNOME uses | 22:39 |
| mhb | it reads information from the registry | 22:39 |
| mhb | and mounts it using HAL | 22:39 |
| nosrednaekim | oh... ok | 22:39 |
| jussio1 | Just a quick word for anyone who is working on kde4, It wold be great to have you also in the official kubuntu kde4 support channel, #kubuntu-kde4 :) | 23:58 |
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