[03:00] <ghostnob_> hi everyone
[03:01] <sommer>  yo
[03:02] <ghostnob_> hi sommer
[03:03] <ghostnob_> I saw some of your works on ubuntu mail list environment...
[03:03] <sommer> heh, hope they were good works
[03:04] <ghostnob_> yeah... I want to join but I don't what I want to do yet.. they are all interesting projects...
[03:04] <sommer> ah, I'
[03:04] <ghostnob_> I'm a web developer and I love scripting especially using linux is awesome since I started 2005
[03:04] <sommer> I
[03:05] <sommer> I've found that it's best to start with what you like
[03:05] <sommer> new keyboard... keep hitting, enter when I'm not ready... heh
[03:05] <ghostnob_> ok.. I'm thinking of packaging OR mysql
[03:05] <ghostnob_> ahh
[03:06] <sommer> have you checked into MOTU yet?
[03:06] <sommer> that's probably the best place to start with regards to packaging
[03:07] <ghostnob_> ok.. I've been looking into that since thanks for telling me.. I will surely do that for the sake of mentoring... lol
[03:07] <sommer> server's a great place to start as well though!
[03:08] <ghostnob_> cool
[03:11] <sommer> another thing upcoming is the upgrade from dapper to hardy, so help with testing is greatly appreciated :-)
[03:11] <sommer> but again, it's really a matter of what you'd like to do
[03:16] <ghostnob_> thanks sommer... sorry I was seting my evolution mail...
[03:16] <sommer> heh, not a problem, I'm just hangin out
[03:19] <ghostnob_> one quick question:
[03:19] <sommer> sure
[03:20] <ghostnob_> I'm trying to set my ubuntu server as the main mail server; and I want to be able to transfer exchange server 2000 to it. do you thing it's possible...? i know it's dumb...
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes its posible, but may be a bit of work
[03:22] <sommer> heh, ya kind of depends on how you use your exchange server
[03:23] <sommer> IMHO the biggest functionality lack between exchange and Open Source solutions for email is shared calendering
[03:24] <sommer> there are Open Source shared calendars, but as far as shared calendars integrated with email, it's not as integrated as exchange
[03:24] <ghostnob_> ok... gotcha..
[03:25] <ghostnob_> one last question... sorry I ask questions alot..
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> ease of integration isnt huge either, but thats partly because people spend their time making good stand alone apps, not easy to ingtegrate ones.
[03:25] <ghostnob_> I use comcast, but I want to be able to access my computer from outside or work; how do you think I can do it.
[03:25] <sommer> Kamping_Kaiser: I concur
[03:26] <sommer> ghostnob_: ssh
[03:26] <sommer> at least if your workstation is linux :-)
[03:26] <ghostnob_> ok.. so it's possible...... yeh!
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> you could putty if its not
[03:27] <sommer> just need to open port 22, but you should limit access to only the users needed
[03:27] <ghostnob_> as long as I know my IP or do I need to create a new IP for it?
[03:27] <ghostnob_> ok..
[03:28] <sommer> you can port map through your firewall to your workstation
[03:28] <sommer> it's a good idea to make sure you have a strong password though
[03:28] <ghostnob_> ok...
[03:28] <ghostnob_> i'm good at that
[03:29] <ghostnob_> because there is something I'm trying to do and if it works, that would be awesome and I will definitely owe you guys... lol
[03:30] <ghostnob_> but now the problem might be the router. I use a linksys router. do you think it's a problem?
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it can forward ports, you should be ok
[03:30] <sommer> yeppers
[03:31] <ghostnob_> ok.. it's the one with the speedbooster... lol
[03:31] <ghostnob_> I will do everything and create users' access to the port...
[03:32] <ghostnob_> I'll start tonight though if you guys are still online, I will surely exercise your ideas and tutorials...
[03:33] <sommer> I'll probably be around for a while
[03:33] <ghostnob_> ok..
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'tonight' is a very relative concept...
[03:33] <sommer> heh, crazy globalization
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[03:33] <ghostnob_> have you ever noticed that it's difficult to remote desktop to a windows machine.. lol
[03:33] <ghostnob_> I hate windows...
[03:34] <ghostnob_> hehe
[03:34] <sommer> not really, have you seen the rdesktop package?
[03:34] <sommer> but I agree with the windows comment :-)
[03:35] <ghostnob_> not really... let me check...
[03:35]  * Kamping_Kaiser hasnt tried remote desktop on anything (unless xdmcp counts)
[03:35] <sommer> heh, rdesktop is a RDP client for linux... good stuff
[03:35] <ghostnob_> I don't think I have rdesktop
[03:36] <sommer> sudo apt-get install rdesktop, should get you there
[03:36] <ghostnob_> ok... one momnet
[03:37] <sommer> that's the cli, there are gnome and kde integrated apps as well
[03:37] <ghostnob_> I use gnome, I can't find it anywhere... I know I already installed it...
[03:38] <sommer> do you have gnome-rdp?
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> also tsclient does it iiirc
[03:38] <sommer> tsclient is the one I've used
[03:38] <sommer> ya
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder how easy it would be to create a copy of the server used at a place i volunteer at. it would be a good test upgrade system
[03:40] <ghostnob_> i don't think I do... let apt-get it
[03:41] <ghostnob_> I'm installing it now..
[03:42] <ghostnob_> so what does VNC do...?
[03:42] <sommer> basically the same thing as windows terminal server
[03:43] <sommer> it allows access to a gui through a network protocol
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> as oposed to vpn, which i keep confusing it with ;)
[03:44] <sommer> heh, ya not quite the same thing... but can be similar
[03:44] <ghostnob_> cool.. I thought as much..
[03:44] <ghostnob_> is it compulsory for me to provide a domain, because I'm just trying to connect to my laptop...
[03:46] <sommer> you shoud be able to supply that once you connect, if necessary
[03:48] <ghostnob_> I can't connect, it's showing some procedures of connecting
[03:53] <sommer> are you on the local LAN?
[03:53] <ghostnob_> yeah...
[03:53] <ghostnob_> but my laptop is not... my laptop is wireless but on my network...
[03:53] <sommer> and it's a win desktop?  if so have you enabled remote administration?
[03:54] <ghostnob_> yeah...
[03:54] <sommer> ya, that's a different port, which I wouldn't advise opening
[03:55] <sommer> you can tunnel the RDP port through SSH though
[03:55] <ghostnob_> ok...
[03:55] <dthacker> rdesktop is wonderful if you have to windows..
[03:55] <ghostnob_> cool...
[03:55] <sommer> ya, best over VPN or on a LAN though
[03:56] <ghostnob_> so, do I have to open port for my laptop? I can connect to my other windows computers anyway
[03:56] <sommer> at leat that's the only times I've used or enabled it :-)
[03:57] <sommer> a VPN is probably the best, most secure way to go
[03:57] <ghostnob_> ok...
[03:58] <sommer> I'd check your linksys for a vpn option
[03:59] <sommer> then it's all encrypted and all good
[03:59] <ghostnob_> ok....
[04:02] <ghostnob_> I want to get disconnected for a second, I'll be back.. ok
[04:02] <sommer> sure
[04:04] <ghostnob__> hi
[04:04] <ghostnob__> I'm back
[04:06] <sommer> cool
[04:07] <[mbm]> anyone running xen servers with hardy?
[04:10] <dthacker> not me
[04:10] <dthacker> I'm a big chicken
[04:11] <[mbm]> noticing that it doesn't quite work
[04:16] <ghostnob__> not me either
[04:16] <[mbm]> hmm, was hoping someone would know how to fix it
[04:16] <ghostnob__> I don't run XEN server.. you sound like a lazy chicken with a weak egg... do things by writing codes and package things not using a third party thing... lol
[04:16] <ghostnob__> well, let's know..
[04:17] <[mbm]> huh?
[04:17] <ghostnob__> what's the problem, maybe I can help
[04:17] <[mbm]> didn't even understand your last comment
[04:18] <[mbm]> hoping that wasn't intended as some sort of insult
[04:19] <ghostnob__> nope... just some technical humor.. lol
[04:20] <ghostnob__> I'm still learning too.. but I learn through solving problems...
[04:20] <[mbm]> I'm not asking someone to hold my hand; specifically I'm asking why the xen networking stack is broken on the domUs
[04:21] <[mbm]> the tx path (domU -> dom0) works, but the rx path doesn't
[04:21] <[mbm]> seems to be a glitch in the xennet code somewhere
[04:26] <ghostnob__> uhmmm
[04:26] <ghostnob__> let me see...
[04:27] <ghostnob__> what is your result when you <ipconfig>
[04:28] <ghostnob__> sorry, <ifconfig>
[04:30] <[mbm]> let's get past the basics - hardy doesn't configure the initramfs for xenblk or xennet which have moved to modules in the hardy release (previously they were compiled into the kernel), so the first step is to fix the ramdisk to load the xen modules; that gets you the virtual networking interfaces
[04:30] <[mbm]> the interfaces appear normal apart from the fact the data you send out through the interface essentially gets routed to /dev/null
[04:31] <[mbm]> I've run tcpdump on both ends of the virtual interface and watched the packets go mising
[04:32] <ghostnob__> try disabling your firewall, create a domU with a MAC, that could also cause a huge problem...
[04:32] <[mbm]> there is no firewall
[04:32] <[mbm]> the mac is hardcoded
[04:32] <[mbm]> hardy's xennet is broken
[04:32] <[mbm]> thre's already a bug filed against it
[04:32] <ghostnob__> ok
[04:32] <ghostnob__> one second
[04:35] <ghostnob__> sorry talking to my girlfriend online... ok.. sometimes a manual configuration can help...
[04:36] <ghostnob__> I remembered I have this links in my bookmarks maybe they will help...
[04:36] <ghostnob__> http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/13/227
[04:36] <ghostnob__> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0710.1/2002.html
[04:38] <[mbm]> not really related
[04:38] <[mbm]> fwiw - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-3.2/+bug/204010
[04:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204010 in xen-3.2 "networking not working" [Undecided,New]
[04:38] <ghostnob__> http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2007/10/13/337161
[04:39] <ghostnob__> well, the little i know of XEN are thos things... I wish I could help more....
[05:38] <nxvl> ScottLij: is there any reason why zimbra isn't included in ubuntu yet, or is a matter of noone packaging it?
[05:39] <nxvl> ScottK: is there any reason why zimbra isn't included in ubuntu yet, or is a matter of noone packaging it?
[05:39] <nxvl> ScottLij: sorry :$
[05:44] <ScottK> nxvl: Dunno.  I thought it had proprietary bits, but I've never really looked into it.
[06:53] <mitesh> how can one futher stripp off ubuntu server
[07:44] <fromport> mitesh: what are you trying to achieve ? why would you want to strup it further ? do you have space problems ?
[07:45] <J-_> I'm currently looking into setting up an HP officejet 6200 printer on my 6.06 LAMP server. What do I need to install to get it working proper, there's no GUI on the server, and I want to be able to configure the server through the webpage-like interface.
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> J-_, cups UI doesnt help?
[07:46] <fromport> is it connected via USB or ethernet ?
[07:47] <J-_> USB
[07:47] <fromport> install cupsys
[07:47] <fromport> and install webmin: http://www.dth.net/new_machine/webmin
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, dont install webmin
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ffs. why do people insist on recomending it
[07:48] <J-_> hmm, okay I won't
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> cups and hp's driver both come with a web UI
[07:48] <J-_> Should I install cupsys>
[07:48] <fromport> kamping: please tell us why not to install it
[07:48] <J-_> ?
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !webmin
[07:49] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> J-_, yes you should
[07:50] <fromport> kamping: if you want to install ebox it will install apache2 and the lot:  69 newly installed packages
[07:50] <fromport> that's MADNASS
[07:50] <fromport> madness
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think both are crazy. tbh.
[07:51] <fromport> i dont want to install a postgress database just to configure my machine with the aid of UI
[07:52] <J-_> Kamping_Kaiser: Will <server internal ip>:631 work after installing CUPS?
[07:52] <fromport> J: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HOWTO-enable-cups-browsing
[07:53] <fromport> google is your friend ;-)
[07:55] <J-_> =\ I've looked into this a bit, plus, some #u-o discussion, and it seems too hard to follow... Plus that tutorial leaves CUPS unprotected.
[07:57] <fromport> mayby seek help @ #u-cups (if it exists?)
[07:57] <J-_> Nope, doesn't.
[07:59]  * J-_ tries the tutorial. =(
[08:03] <J-_> Ah, great. Adminstrative commands are disabled, and I have no GUI to make a user. =\
[08:36] <mitesh> fromport: can i optimize it even futher as best for my need.. suppose i want to run a http server only, thn what will be the best configuration for it.. rempving the unwanted thing ..
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> you could use something like debfoster to remove unused packages, but you'll find the system extreemaly unflexible
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> *inflexable
[08:40] <mitesh> can i do some thing like travel the dependencies og a http server and keep only it and stipp off the rest?
[08:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> you could write yourself a bash script to do it. or look at debfoster ...
[08:42] <mitesh> ok is there anything close to http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap-userguide.xml this in ubuntu see the goal part..
[08:42] <J-_> hmmm, I used the tutorial, added group, and the user to the group, set the group in cupsd.conf and still doesn't work...
[08:43] <J-_> maybe I should to make a shadow user? i think it is
[08:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> mitesh, is that question related to what you just asked, or is it a second question?
[08:44] <mitesh> you can relate it suppose you have a space constraint
[08:44] <mitesh> and want to set up a server for less than 13 mb
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> *laugh*
[08:45] <mitesh> ?
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> setup a server in < 13 mb.
[08:47] <fromport> mitesh: you clearly dont know what you're talking about.
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> afk dinner
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> back in 60
[08:47] <mitesh> embedded systems
[08:48] <fromport> you are talking on #ubuntu-server
[08:48] <fromport> things that have multiple cpu's terabytes of storage and connected with 10GE
[08:49] <fromport> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu
[08:50] <fromport> ubuntu != gentoo. if you want/are used to do it the gentoo way: use gentoo
[08:50] <fromport> :-)
[08:50] <fromport> a fairly minimum ubunserver install is around 400 megabyte
[08:51] <fromport> it has around 250 packages installed which you can see with " dpkg -l "
[08:51] <fromport> if you're brave enough and know what you are doing you could purge a few of those.
[08:52] <fromport> if you use aptitude you can search/look for packages and it dependancies
[08:52] <fromport> good luck!
[09:45] <J-_> !info hotplug
[09:45] <ubotu> Package hotplug does not exist in gutsy
[09:45] <J-_> !info hotplug=utils
[09:45] <ubotu> Package hotplugutils does not exist in gutsy
[09:45] <J-_> argh
[11:24] <st_iron> hi
[14:34] <XiXaQ> when I install a web application, it's available in http://localhost/appname. Where is that configured?
[14:35] <XiXaQ> I mean, the webapp configuration. I'd like to have them in /home instead, because the root partition is very small.
[14:35] <XiXaQ> well, for other reasons too.
[14:37] <J-_> Does GoDaddy serve Canada as well?
[14:37] <mralphabet> yes
[14:38] <J-_> Cool
[14:38] <J-_> I just noticed no mention of Canadian Currency. =)
[14:39] <mralphabet> hmm . . .perhaps i should say "I believe so"
[14:59] <J-_> What if I have a dynamic IP? My router has a Domain name setting I can use,,(wrt54gs)
[14:59] <J-_> err
[14:59] <J-_> probably a stupid question, but, I don't know
[15:00] <J-_> When I buy a domain name, do I have to contact my ISP and configure it with my DNS?
[15:00] <J-_> there we go
[15:00] <J-_> backwards, but I didn't get any answers in #u-o
[15:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends on your arangement with your isp
[15:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have a static IP?
[15:00] <J-_> No, Dynamic
[15:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need one to have a domain
[15:01] <J-_> serious? =\
[15:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes.
[15:01] <mralphabet> well, "to have a domain hosted at your house"
[15:02] <mralphabet> you could just use something like dyndns.org
[15:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> true
[15:02] <J-_> Wouldn't my router take care of that though since there's an option to type in a Domain in?
[15:02] <mralphabet> which is what that field in your router is made for
[15:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> unles it referes to your network domain, not internet domain
[15:03] <J-_> There's a Host Name, and Domain Name
[15:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> sounds internal to me, but we'd need more info
[15:04] <mralphabet> nod, that sounds like the internal side
[15:04] <mralphabet> there should be something somewhere else that refers to dyndns or a similar service
[16:00] <Kirok> hmm I need a new network naming scheme... any suggestions
[16:10] <mralphabet> I use superman villians
[16:11] <Kirok> Good idea, I'd go gods or mythology but they seem overused
[16:11] <mralphabet> at work we use mountain ranges, dog breeds, LOTR characters
[16:12] <Kirok> Its a home network so its not a big deal, I was using 300 characters but ran out of names
[16:12] <mralphabet> every time I reboot a server and I have to comment it, I put in "<server name> has been bad and Superman taught him a lesson!"
[16:12] <mralphabet> ok, not really, but I thought it was funny
[16:13] <Kirok> heh yeah, you can have epic battles if theres an outage
[16:14] <mralphabet> heh, exactly
[16:20] <peterdv> Planets are also a frequent topic used. Personally I find the Periodic Table funny. One of our servers ra (IP .88) appears to be more stable than the element itself ....
[16:20] <Kirok> Yeah there all good I've considered some of them I just wanted to see what everyone else was using
[16:31] <davebv> hi! I am fighting with ubuntu hardy and ebox
[16:32] <mralphabet> make love, not war
[16:32] <davebv> may somebody please give me a hand?
[16:32] <davebv> hehe, I am fighting softly
[16:32] <davebv> I have a problem, I installed ebox in a virtual machine
[16:33] <davebv> with virtualbox, and ubuntu JEOS (and then, installed ubuntu-desktop)...
[16:34] <davebv> and when I try to enable the "users and groups" module, it gives me an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60560/
[16:36] <davebv> nobody?
[16:38] <Kirok> Sorry no idea, pretty cryptic message with just trace information
[16:38] <Kirok> its worked in the past I take it
[16:39] <davebv> I think it worked in other installation (not in a virtual machine)
[16:39] <davebv> could it be something like the -virtual kernel is doing something strange?
[16:41] <Kirok> I mean it could be, theres some interaction with Apache so it might be work checking that or looking up the line numbers and see what there doing
[16:44] <davebv> it seems to complex  for my knowledge hehe
[16:44] <davebv> I'll give a try with another kernel and see what happens, if it works, I'll fill a bug, if it does not... I don't know then hehe
[16:46] <Kirok> Sorry I couldn't be of more help, maybe someone else will see and reply
[16:48] <davebv> no problem, thank you anyway
[16:56] <davebv> it works with generic kernel
[16:57] <ivoks> what's the problem?
[16:58] <davebv> I tried to enable the "users and groups" module in ebox, in a virtual machine with ubuntu JEOS installed and the linux-virtual kernel running
[16:58] <faulkes-> I prefer to name my servers after alcohol or drinking related topics
[16:58] <davebv> and it failed with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60560/
[16:58] <ivoks> ah, ebox...
[16:58] <davebv> but this module enables ok with generic kernel
[16:59] <ivoks> i don't see how this could be related to kernel
[16:59] <faulkes-> have to agree, I can't see how it would be a kernel issue, just based on the stacktrace
[16:59] <davebv> me neither
[17:00] <davebv> but the point is that the error does not occur with the generic kernel, and it happens with the virtual kernel
[17:00] <faulkes-> what version of ubuntu?
[17:01] <faulkes-> interesting
[17:01] <davebv> hardy JEOS
[17:01] <faulkes-> zul (Chuck Short) has been doing the ebox work for hardy
[17:01] <faulkes-> so you might wish to see if you can poke at him
[17:02] <faulkes-> only thing I can think of is maybe it's a apparmor or selinux issue but that is just a wild guess
[17:02] <davebv> no idea hehe
[17:02] <davebv> maybe some apache module not build quite right for virtual kernel?
[17:03] <ivoks> i will stop using linux if apache compiles with some kernel library :)
[17:03] <ivoks> or apache
[17:03] <davebv> hahaha
[17:03] <davebv> I didn't mean that
[17:03] <davebv> xD
[17:04] <ivoks> faulkes-: apparmor makes sense
[17:07] <faulkes-> ivoks: neither are more forte so, I just figured they might be culprits
[18:30] <themime> i just ran apt-get install vim-full, it looks like its installing some gnome stuff....is it doing a full gnome install?
[18:31] <Nafallo> dependencies and dependencies of dependencis etc...
[18:32] <themime> does that include a full gnome install >.<
[18:33] <Nafallo> you tell me. why would you need the vim-full metapackage to start with?
[18:33] <themime> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p3
[18:33] <themime> cause it says so
[18:33] <Nafallo> ehrm
[18:36]  * Nafallo goes to make a webpage that tell people to kill their families :-P
[18:37] <sommer> lol, only if it's in a nice way
[18:40] <themime> haha, i assumed this site knew what he was talking about
[18:40] <themime> how do i undo the install?
[19:31] <slide> Can anyone point me to guides or something to help me secure my server? I've been recently and just reinstalled and want to make sure it doesnt happen again
[19:35] <Seamus> Hello, anyone tried doing an LTS upgrade yet?
[19:38] <Seamus> I'm running a 6.06 server with vmware, samba, apache2, and sendmail.
[19:38] <Seamus> I was wondering if there are any upgrade issues.
[20:45] <fromport> i've heard a lot of problems with an upgrade. I did it with my laptop, i ended up doing a fresh install
[20:51] <|Nemesis|2|> noooobs
[20:51] <|Nemesis|2|> Laughing Out Loud
[20:55] <kadakas> hi, has anyone run uTorrent on Ubuntu Server ?
[21:01] <slide> Can anyone point me to guides or something to help me secure my server? I've been recently and just reinstalled and want to make sure it doesnt happen again
[21:21] <lamont> kadakas: rtorrent is more common, I think
[21:21] <lamont> slide: there are a number of books and howtos available...
[21:22] <lamont> generally, you want to start with an ubuntu-server install, and then only install services that you actually need, etc.
[21:22] <lamont> and each of those has different considerations to take into account in securing it.
[21:22] <lamont> and many would add "never install php"
[21:23]  * lamont wanders off again
[21:43] <Nafallo> lamont: :-)
[21:49] <lamont> Nafallo: well, it does seem to be the most popular vector for hacking most linux boxen
[21:51] <Nafallo> lamont: I work with managed hosting dude... ;-)
[21:52] <Nafallo> so I can confirm :-)
[21:54] <lamont> of course, the first question to answer before we can help slide out much, other than generally, is "how did they compromise your box?"
[21:54] <lamont> which, I rather expect, is gone without any forensic trail, with the reinstall
[22:21] <eliaskate> buenas tardes, alguien sabe donde puedo buscar la manera de configurar shorewall para una pc con 2 placas de red
[22:22] <eliaskate>  una recibe internet, y la idea es que la otra se encargue de filtrar inet actuando como un firewall para el resto de la red
[22:25] <Nafallo> eliaskate: english channel, sorry.
[22:26] <eliaskate> alright
[22:26] <eliaskate> no problem
[22:27] <eliaskate> i need to configure a sigle pc, who has 2 networks interfaces, one of them its pluged to the internet, the other one y conect to another pc
[22:27] <eliaskate> and i'am trying to navigate from the other pc
[22:27] <eliaskate> but it doesn't work
[22:28] <eliaskate> any idea?
[22:28] <Nafallo> forwarding turned on?
[22:29] <Nafallo> snat in the NAT netfilter?
[22:36] <eliaskate> let me check
[22:37] <eliaskate> ip_forward enabled
[22:37] <eliaskate> dnat configured in shorewall
[22:38] <olie> Hi I have recently setup a ubuntu 7.10 server with apache2 ssl. The problem is that when apache starts it asks me for my pass phrase for ssl and at the same time i get a login prompt which just fucks both ssl pass phrase and the login up. Is there a way to get the server to wait for me to enter the pass phrase before continue with the booting sequense ?
[22:42] <Kirok> olie: Take a look at http://www.debianadmin.com/install-and-configure-apache2-with-php5-and-ssl-support-in-debian-etch.html and http://www.ronanchilvers.com/notes/ssl.html it shouldn't do that
[22:42] <Kirok> Oh crap, should have read your question. Maybe boot into single user mode and try to fix it
[22:45] <olie> how could it fix it ? im not sure what is wrong, I have followed a simular guide as the second link you pasted
[22:46] <Kirok> I mean it works fine for me, so I don't know the first guide is good up until the SSL point then I moved to the second
[22:46] <Kirok> Did you sign the certificates?
[22:48] <olie> i did a self signing thing, no CA signing
[22:48] <Kirok> I mean passphrases are just used for private keys
[22:50] <olie> hmm.. not sure what you mean, i followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/httpd.html#https-configuration
[22:52] <olie> I saw that some other guides uses apache2-ssl-certficate or something simular to generate a certificate but i couldn't find that script so i did it like that guide said instead
[22:54] <Kirok> Yeah the guide you have wants you to enter the passphrase I didn't want that... all I can suggest is restart apache and enter the passphrase then
[22:56] <olie> I have tried to login using another terminal, which works, but i can't restart apache i get a error saying someting about a file already in use or something
[22:56] <Kirok> try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload or have you tried that
[22:56] <Kirok> or try to killall then restart
[22:59] <olie> killing it and restarting it works, thanks... but it will be a hassle to do that every time i boot the server
[23:03] <Kirok> I mean the passphrase can be removed with something like openssl rsa -in ca.key -out ca-new.key
[23:07] <Kirok> Oh and then make the replaces in the apache virtualhost site config
[23:09] <olie> ah ok, great thanks
[23:40] <themime> what is this asking in laymans terms -> "Continue installing libc-client without Maildir support"
[23:50] <themime> ok, i know what maildir is now, just read about it, but how do i know if i need it or not?