[00:00] <profx> nevermind, doesnt seem like anyone knows
[00:00] <jussio1> profx: you need the koqueror nsplugis installed, see the lik from the bot
[00:00] <Ashex> profoX`, http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[00:00] <Ashex> profx, see above link
[00:00] <Ashex> first result of google
[00:01] <kanadian> profx, you aren't using a livecd are you?
[00:01] <bnex10> adept got 46 packages to remove, and it only done 11 so far.... :/
[00:01]  * bnex10 is away: Gone away for now.
[00:05] <profx> jussi01, I see nothing referencing nsplugins in the URL provided
[00:06] <nonewmsgs> i have been having flash issues recently too bnex10
[00:06] <profx> Ashex, I have no 'plugins' section in 'Settings -> config. Kon.'
[00:06] <bnex-AFK> no
[00:07]  * bnex-AFK is back.
[00:07] <profx> kanadian, no, no LIVE CD
[00:07] <nonewmsgs> flash for some reason just recently stopped working for me.
[00:07] <jussio1> profx: #
[00:07] <jussio1> #
[00:07] <jussio1> Extra Step for Konqueror. In Konqueror, click Settings ? Configure Konqueror. Scroll down the side to Plugins. Click Scan for new plugins
[00:07] <profx> jussi01, please, see above
[00:07] <jussio1> profx: did you scroll down?
[00:07] <profx> did I scroll down
[00:07] <profx> hmmm
[00:08] <Arwen> Kubuntu is fun! God... so many things to compile
[00:08] <jussio1> its right at the bottom
[00:08] <profx> jussi01, as I said twice now, there is no 'plugins'
[00:08] <bnex10> adept removal of gnome crap is at 32% -_-
[00:09] <profx> anyone else have any more suggestions ?
[00:10] <jussio1> !info konqueror-nsplugins
[00:10] <ubotu> konqueror-nsplugins (source: kdebase): Netscape plugin support for Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 170 kB, installed size 452 kB
[00:10] <jussio1> profx: make sure that is installed
[00:13] <profx> haha
[00:13] <profx> ugh
[00:14] <profx> seems as though flash gives js an issue
[00:14] <profx> i have a site with drop downs, im guess via js, and they dont appear in FF nor in Konqueror (now)
[00:15] <profx> after I added konqueror-nsplugins
[00:17] <jussio1> profx: since adding the konq ns plugis, did you go do the scan and find flash?
[00:17] <profx> jussi01, it was already there
[00:17] <profx> as it was installed previously, for use in FF
[00:18] <jussio1> yes, but you still have to get konq to go find it
[00:19] <profx> jussi01, there wasnt anything to addon
[00:19] <profx> it give me the same issues flash was in FF
[00:19] <jussio1> profx: how long ago did you install flash?
[00:19] <profx> about a month ago
[00:19] <profx> during my fresh new install
[00:20] <profx> its not flash thats the issue directly
[00:20] <profx> its what its downing to js on this site
[00:20] <jussio1> !flashissues | profx this is a little old, but may help
[00:20] <ubotu> profx this is a little old, but may help: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[00:20] <profx> jussi01, that is unrelated
[00:20] <profx> as others have said, they too have had flash issues
[00:22] <jussio1> profx: ok, Please reiterate exactly what your issue is?
[00:22] <profx> i would rather not, as I explained it already, flash is doing something with js on a page I am attempting to view
[00:23] <profx> thanks anyways
[00:23] <napoleao> anyone know how can I hide icons that are in virtual desktop 2? If I am in desktop1 it shows the icons that are open in desktop2
[00:24] <jussio1> napoleao: right click panel, configure panel, taskbar, untick the show windows from all desktops
[00:25] <greeg> hi
[00:25] <jussio1> hi greeg
[00:25] <greeg> in openoffice writer, how can i work on my document in a landscape view (the page turned 90 degrees).
[00:25] <napoleao> cool. thanks jussio
[00:25] <jussio1> napoleao: you are welcome
[00:26] <jussio1> !tab > napoleao
[00:28] <jussio1> greeg: format -> page -> page tab -> landscape
[00:30] <greeg> thanx pal
[00:32] <jussio1> greeg: you are most welcome :)
[00:32] <thewhitepelican> how do I install google earth into kubuntu?
[00:32] <LjL-Temp> !medibuntu | thewhitepelican, it's available as a package here
[00:32] <ubotu> thewhitepelican, it's available as a package here: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[00:34] <Frederick> folks does anyone know the plugin I need in swiftweasel to open embedded pdfs?
[00:34] <bnex10> hmmmmmmm......
[00:35] <jussio1> Frederick: ot heard of that program, where did you get it?
[00:35] <kanadian> seems this is a plugin night
[00:35] <Arwen> is the code name for Hardy+1 announced yet?
[00:35] <jussio1> yes
[00:35] <jussio1> intrepid ibex
[00:36] <Arwen> that name sucks >_>
[00:36] <Arwen> and I was so expecting 8.04 to be Hungry Hippo
[00:37] <kanadian> I need to install adobe flash player in konqueror and i've downloaded the tar.gz and ran the terminal code to start installation but it says "
[00:37] <kanadian> ERROR: Your home directory does not have a Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera
[00:37] <kanadian>        browser user directory. Run one of these browsers at least once
[00:37] <kanadian> i tried creating a folder called .plugins in my home dir
[00:38] <jussio1> Arwen: lets discus this in #kubuntu-offtopic shall we?
[00:39] <jussio1> kanadian: is there a reason you are grabbing it from adobe, not the repos?
[00:40] <kanadian> a site asked me to install, I clicked "install adobe flayer" and it brought me to a site, wth a couple of options including tar.gz. yum and rpm so I took tar.gz and followed the instructions
[00:41] <jussio1> !flash | kanadian
[00:41] <ubotu> kanadian: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:41] <nonewmsgs> i too am having issues with this kanadian.  i have flash installed but my system doesnt believe it anymore.  i have tried reinstalling
[00:42] <Apple_Cat> kanadian: move the libflashplayer.so file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[00:42] <kanadian> i don't have firefox installed
[00:43] <duke_> My home network has two vista laptop, I just added a Kubuntu computer on the network and I can see and access both vista laptops from the linux but I cant see the linux computer fron any of the two vista machines.... anyone can help ??
[00:44] <jussio1> !samba | duke_
[00:44] <ubotu> duke_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:52] <Dr_willis> there is a kde samba gui interface tool also.. you may want to look at..
[00:52] <Dr_willis> and the 'samba-doc' packagte has books in html format on the topic. :)
[00:57] <duke_> I cant see the linux computer from the vista computers(2) ..... but linux see's and can access vista computers
[00:58] <kanadian> !samba | duke_
[00:58] <ubotu> duke_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:59] <duke_> i dont want to make a linux server
[01:02] <bnex10> later everyone
[01:02] <osiris> then you wont be able to browse the linux pc from the windows one, unless its a server
[01:03] <duke_> really?
[01:03] <duke_> didn't know that
[01:03] <osiris> even setting up shares in linux makes them samba or nfs shares
[01:04] <m15k> test
[01:04] <osiris> mic chec
[01:06] <duke_> so It would be easier to set the linux as a server and plug the printer in the server ?
[01:06] <p-f> standby has been buggy for the past few days on my inspiron 640m: when I press the standby button, it seemingly goes to sleep properly (with the power light flashing) but, when I reopen the lid, my laptop starts up from scratch; what could be the cause of this?
[01:07] <osiris> duke_, yes
[01:08] <duke_> well I guess I'll have to learn  how to do that then ;p
[01:08] <osiris> read up about samba.  that is what you are looking for
[01:08] <m15k> plasma crash with sigsegv 11 on startup (kde4) anyone knowing this problem?
[01:08] <duke_> will I be able to do that with Kubuntu ?
[01:08] <osiris> yes
[01:08] <duke_> ok
[01:09] <osiris> or you could make a web server, and make the files accessable from anywhere
[01:11] <duke_> well I'm quite good with windows networks but I know absolutely nothing about linux right now so I'll do some reading to learn the basics of linux networking
[01:11] <duke_> thanks for helping me
[01:12] <osiris> no problem.  if you understand networking, picking up the linux way of doing things isnt that tough
[01:12] <osiris> learn to love the command line, and the world is yours
[01:14] <duke_> I know dos basics and thats about it :p
[01:14] <jussio1> !bash
[01:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:15] <kanadian> also check out linuxcommand.org
[01:15] <kanadian> http://www.linuxcommand.org
[01:16] <m15k> :(
[01:19] <scott_> help...  two apps not installing:  limewirelinux and qtella.  grr...
[01:19] <osiris> what would be the syntax to remove every entry for a file recursivly, instead of going through each folder and removing that file name?
[01:19] <osiris> scott_, sudo apt-get install frostwire
[01:19] <scott_> ok  thanks!  I will look for that now!
[01:20] <scott_> d/l frostwire now...  cool!
[01:24] <kmaxtor> hello
[01:25] <kmaxtor> please help me to restore my apt under terminal
[01:25] <jussio1> kmaxtor: whats the issue?
[01:25] <kmaxtor> i can't update my apt is cause error
[01:25] <drbrown> i have just downloaded new drivers for my sis chipset from intel, and I am unsure as to where to put the two files sis_drv.la and  sis_drv.so, any assistance would be appreciated.
[01:26] <jussio1> kmaxtor: database locked?
[01:26] <kmaxtor> yes i am
[01:26] <jussio1> !aptfix | kmaxtor
[01:26] <ubotu> kmaxtor: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:27] <scott_> Adept isn't finding any executable for the decompressed frostwire files.  I also get this: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/frostwire'.
[01:27] <kmaxtor> wha i can do to restore
[01:28] <jussio1> kmaxtor: do the command from ubotu
[01:28] <jussio1> kmaxtor: this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:28] <kmaxtor> my apt is cause error, i can't update my apt
[01:29] <jussio1> kmaxtor: ok, try running the command I just gave you.
[01:30] <kmaxtor> i wait
[01:32] <Kubuntu-noob> Hi all
[01:33] <Kubuntu-noob> I've problem with installation
[01:33] <jussio1> ask away Kubuntu-noob :)
[01:33] <scott_> help... I d/l frost wire and decompressed with ark.  Adept won't find executeable...grr
[01:34] <jussio1> scott_: ummm, I think you can install it via adept... (its in the repositories)
[01:34] <jussio1> !limewire
[01:34] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:35] <scott_> I'll try that...limewirewin had a similar issue...
[01:35] <zaza> #zaza
[01:35] <jussio1> !frostwire
[01:35] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:35] <jussio1> scott_: have a look at that last link from the bot
[01:35] <scott_> Ok, thanks... I am doing both
[01:36] <Kubuntu-noob> When kubuntu want create settings for my hardware(about95% instalation)progress bar is freezing
[01:36] <jussio1> Kubuntu-noob: how long have you left it for?
[01:37] <Kubuntu-noob> Ten to 15 minuts
[01:38] <jussio1> ok. did you try the live cd first?
[01:39] <Kubuntu-noob> Yes,i've no problems with nothing.
[01:40] <Kubuntu-noob> In live session of course
[01:40] <jussio1> yeah, that sounds a little weird.
[01:41] <jussio1> Im not sure of how to fix that one, sorry
[01:42] <Kubuntu-noob> Should help me 6.10, i've tried only 6.4
[01:42] <scott_> argh.  Nothing found by adept... but I can see that frostwire wedged itself into a kde subdirectory
[01:43] <jussio1> Kubuntu-noob: I would grab 7.10
[01:44] <Kubuntu-noob> Jussio:do i've right?
[01:44] <jussio1> !tab | Kubuntu-noob
[01:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu-noob: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:44] <Kubuntu-noob> Ok then i will try tommorrow
[01:45] <jussio1> Alrighty then, Im off to bed.
[01:46] <Kubuntu-noob> Btw i cant use tab when i use mobile phone:)
[01:49] <Kubuntu-noob> Where in kubuntu i can found commercial driver installer
[01:49] <Kubuntu-noob> ?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: systemsettings->advanced
[01:51] <Arwen> wtf, why does all the multimedia cruft in Kubuntu have to suck?
[01:51] <Arwen> ancient ffmpeg, broken vlc, sucky kaffeine, really ancient mplayer...
[01:53] <osiris> arnt we cranky
[01:53] <Arwen> and people wonder why Linux can't compete with Windows...
[01:53] <osiris> funny, vlc works fine, mplayer is great, kmplayer, xine, kaffeine, all good products
[01:53] <Arwen> the hell... and the "bleeding edge" version has YEAR OLD ffmpeg
[01:54] <Arwen> osiris, well, you go keep sipping your kool-aid...
[01:54] <Arwen> ugh..
[01:54] <osiris> no, im going to use what i like, and what is right for the given task
[01:54] <Kubuntu-noob> About compiz fusion:i have legacy nvidia card.when i will install drivers,then what i should do next
[01:55] <Arwen> yes, because BROKEN software is ALWAYS the RIGHT choice
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: you have a TNT2 card?
[01:55] <osiris> just because yours is broken, doesnt mean things dont work
[01:55] <Arwen> osiris, actually, it DOES
[01:55] <Arwen> that's what BROKEN means
[01:56] <osiris> so, why dont you try posting a question, instead of bitching about your "broken" software
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> doesn't !workforme ;)
[01:56] <Kubuntu-noob> No geforce mx 32MB
[01:56] <osiris> you obviously came here for a fight
[01:56] <Arwen> yes, my question is why ffmpeg hasn't been upgraded in an entire year
[01:56] <Arwen> nor mplayer
[01:56] <Arwen> despite major improvements upstream in both
[01:57] <Arwen> and why Ubuntu wants to make users compile their own software
[01:57] <Kanzar> lol
[01:57] <osiris> you shouldnt be compiling software on a binary distro
[01:57] <Arwen> well, guess what, I have to
[01:57] <Arwen> because the distro makes me
[01:57] <Kanzar> i'm going to dual boot until i get the hang of this... ~_~
[01:57] <osiris> but if you HAVE to, its up to you to solve dependencies
[01:57] <Arwen> because the "convenient" version is broken
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: ah, ok, you will need to install xserver-xgl
[01:57] <osiris> broken in what way
[01:58] <Arwen> it's ANCIENT
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> !ot Arwen
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot arwen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <Arwen> and  missing features
[01:58] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, how is this offtopic?
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> !ot | Arwen
[01:58] <ubotu> Arwen: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: if you want to rant please don't do it in the support channe;
[01:59] <Kubuntu-noob> Is not incudet whit drivers?
[02:00] <Frederick> folks does kubuntu has any difference to set up a database in netbeans than the "default" netbeans tutorial
[02:00] <nonewmsgs> i am having much issues with flash these last few days.  despite it supposedly being installed  the browsers act like it isnt.  reinstalling this did not fix.  is it possible if i upgrade to hoary it will fix it?
[02:00] <Kubuntu-noob> Ok,then next step is...
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> log and then back in
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> *log out
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: actually, you need to reboot to get your drivers installed correctly
[02:03] <Kubuntu-noob> I know(ie: ctrl+alt+bckspc)
[02:04] <nonewmsgs> kubuntu-noob i think he means a full restart
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob:well, that actually should do it... but if it doesn't reboot
[02:05] <nonewmsgs> is it possible to not announce my full ip and location when i log in?
[02:06] <osiris> get a cloak
[02:06] <Kubuntu-noob> And after all of this it will be end,i will have my compiz?
[02:07] <kanadian> while running adept I get" no command arguments supplied Usage: kdesude[-u <runas>] <command> KDesudo will not exit...
[02:07] <level1> I want to append to the end of a root-owned file using >>, but just putting sudo in front of a command doesn't sudo the >> part
[02:08] <jorge_> hi every body
[02:08] <nonewmsgs> hi dr nick i mean jorge
[02:08] <jorge_> im really newbie, i just install kubuntu on mi laptop
[02:08] <kgoetz> level1: can you show us what your running? use pastebin if needed
[02:08] <kanadian> and then it says that another instance is running (on a fresh start) and that it sends a signal6 (SIGABRT)
[02:09] <kgoetz> kanadian: have you just booted up
[02:09] <kanadian> no, but upon my boot it had trouble fetching updates and then this all happened
[02:09] <prince_jammys> level1: try sudo bash -c 'echo foo >> filename'
[02:09] <prince_jammys> level1: that will do it
[02:10] <kgoetz> kanadian: what is 'all this'?
[02:10] <kanadian> the singal 6 (SIGABRT)
[02:10] <kanadian> signal*
[02:11] <ren_> is it just me or is getting a scanner to work a bit of an issue
[02:11] <kanadian> seems to think there are two instances
[02:11] <kgoetz> kanadian: how long since you started up?
[02:11] <kanadian> boot was this morning
[02:11] <level1> prince_jammys: thanks a lot
[02:11] <kanadian> maybe 12 hours ago
[02:12] <kgoetz> hm.long enough
[02:12] <level1> prince_jammys: that worked really well
[02:12] <prince_jammys> level1: you're welcome
[02:12] <kgoetz> kanadian: open a terminal an type 'ps aux |grep kdesu'
[02:12] <Kubuntu-noob> Is possible to skip live session and install kubuntu?
[02:12] <kgoetz> use the debian-installer cds?
[02:13] <kanadian> kgoetz: done
[02:13] <kgoetz> kanadian: does it list a few things running?
[02:13] <kgoetz> pastebin if you need us to look at it :0
[02:13] <kgoetz> * :)
[02:13] <Jucato> !adeptfix | kanadian
[02:13] <ubotu> kanadian: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:13] <ren_> is there a way to look for new hardwear such as a scanner?
[02:14] <Jucato> that might help as weel
[02:14] <Jucato> well*
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: yes, use the laternate installer
[02:14] <kanadian> kgoetz: ERROR: Process ID list syntax error.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: also, to have compiz, you will need th package "compiz-kde"
[02:14] <Kubuntu-noob> Please anserw me my computer is slow and sucks
[02:15] <osiris> ktorrent is such a great app.  i LOVE the bandwidth schedule plugin
[02:15] <kgoetz> Kubuntu-noob: which question didnt get answered?
[02:15] <nonewmsgs> osiris agreed
[02:16] <kgoetz> kanadian: try what Jucato suggested first
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: its slow now after restarting X? thats XGL... you might not have enough graphics to run compiz
[02:16] <osiris> its a VERY necessary thing when you run VoIP
[02:16] <Kubuntu-noob> About skippimg live just installing kubuntu
[02:17] <kgoetz> Kubuntu-noob: you got two answers to that
[02:17] <Jucato> Kubuntu-noob: the Live CD installer can only install if you're running live. there's not command line installer from that CD
[02:17] <kgoetz> Kubuntu-noob: 12:44 < nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-noob: yes, use the laternate installer
[02:17] <kgoetz> Jucato: hey mate, btw :)
[02:17] <Jucato> of course he meant "alternate installer"
[02:17] <Jucato> hi kgoetz!
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ooops
[02:18] <kgoetz> hehe
[02:18] <prince_jammys> later, nate
[02:18] <eric__> hola
[02:18] <jorge_> i tried to compile a program, and i got a message, unable to find libncurses, so i did sudo apt-get install libncurses, then i got this message couldn't find package libncurses, some could help me on this one please
[02:18] <eric__> cual es el canal de español
[02:18] <prince_jammys> !es | eric__
[02:18] <ubotu> eric__: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:20] <Kubuntu-noob> How to use alternate installer?
[02:20] <jorge_> ubotu, can u help me ?
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can u help me ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <kgoetz> jorge_: you probably need ncurses-dev (or a similar package)
[02:20] <Jucato> jorge_: libncurses5 but the package you need for compiling something that uses libncurses is libncurses5-dev
[02:20] <kanadian> kgoetz/jucato: the adeptfix worked
[02:20] <jorge_> ok thanks, ill try it
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> !alternate | Kubuntu-noob
[02:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu-noob: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[02:21] <kgoetz> kanadian: cool
[02:21] <kanadian> it cleaned up something and loaded up a new adeptmanager fine
[02:21] <kanadian> thanks for your help!
[02:21] <kgoetz> Jucato: wins again :)
[02:21] <Jucato> :P
[02:21] <kanadian> haha, you both helped. thanks
[02:21] <kgoetz> hehe
[02:22] <jorge_> it didn't work
[02:22] <Kubuntu-noob> !minimal
[02:22] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:22] <jorge_> i got the same message, cuoldn't find it
[02:23] <Jucato> jorge_: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[02:23] <jorge_> 7.10
[02:23] <kgoetz> jorge_: if you need more accuracy in answers, your goign to have to give us more details about what went wrong
[02:23] <Kubuntu-noob> Ok,thx, see you tommorow
[02:24] <Jucato> jorge_: well, in Adept Manager or apt-cache search, look for the libncurses package that you need (take note of the full package nam) but install the -dev version of that package
[02:25] <jorge_> i downloaded a tar.gz file, and when i try to compiled it, i got this configure error, unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:25] <kgoetz> jorge_: pastebin the whole error
[02:25] <jorge_> checking for initscr in -lcurses... no
[02:25] <jorge_> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:26] <kgoetz> !error | jorge_
[02:26] <ubotu> jorge_: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
 jorge_: well, in Adept Manager or apt-cache search, look for the libncurses package that you need (take note of the full package nam) but install the -dev version of that package
[02:27] <jorge_> ok, ill do it, thanks
[02:28] <chinamann> hi
[02:28] <chinamann> looking foor help installing my ssh account.
[02:28] <chinamann> tried 100 times ... and i am near to getting crazy.
[02:29] <chinamann> who can help me step by step.
[02:29] <osiris> uhh. whats the problem
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> !ssh
[02:29] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:29] <osiris> are you trying to install ssh server ?
[02:30] <chinamann> @osiris.. i try to get my ssh connecting to a vserver autommatically done.
[02:30] <osiris> then i have no idea what you are trying to do.  sorry
[02:31] <chinamann> login the v-server by private key instead of password.
[02:31] <kgoetz> chinamann: ask the channel for your vserver (eg #xen)
[02:31] <joseluix> hi
[02:32] <kgoetz> (assuming you know how to do keybased auth, and your having vserver issues)
[02:32] <kgoetz> !greet joseluix
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about greet joseluix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <kgoetz> bah
[02:32] <joseluix> Iá m jose luis
[02:32] <joseluix> I'm jose luis
[02:33] <joseluix> I'm joseluix
[02:33] <osiris> so
[02:33] <joseluix> hola kgoets
[02:33] <osiris> want a cookie?
[02:33] <chinamann> @kgoetz.. i just want to log into a v-server by private key..
[02:33] <kgoetz> chinamann: do you know how to setup keybased ssh authentication?
[02:34] <kgoetz> joseluix: can we help with anything? :)
[02:34] <chinamann> sorry, dont know..
[02:34] <joseluix> someone know how to make a .iso with k3b
[02:34] <joseluix> but with a directory
[02:34] <osiris> never tried.  gimme a sec
[02:34] <chinamann> kgoetz: i can log in by manualy way..
[02:34] <chinamann> tried to automize it..
[02:34] <kanadian> !sound | kanadian
[02:35] <kgoetz> !selftell | kanadian
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selftell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <kgoetz> bah. i'm so used to dpkg :|
[02:35] <kaan> hey everyone
[02:35] <kaan> I'm trying to play a DVD with kaffeine
[02:35] <kaan> it shows the first FBI warning and attention screen
[02:36] <chinamann> vlc.. @ kaan
[02:36] <kaan> but then it stops before coming to the menu
[02:36] <chinamann> best player!!
[02:36] <kaan> i should get vlc?
[02:36] <chinamann> try it out.. i love it.
[02:36] <kaan> whats vlc?
[02:36] <kaan> oh ok
[02:36] <Kanzar> ...is it SUPPOSED to come up with 'video mode not supported' when you start up after install...? XD
[02:36] <kaan> thnx i'll check it out
[02:36] <osiris> did you install the packages for DVD playback ?
[02:36] <chinamann> another player
[02:36] <Kanzar> oh wait, it's loading
[02:37] <kaan> i dunno if i did
[02:37] <kaan> i installed win32 package for watching videos, avi and stuff
[02:37] <kgoetz> chinamann: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[02:37] <osiris> guess i dont know how to make an iso in k3b
[02:37] <joseluix> kaan, what say the message
[02:37] <kaan> there is no message
[02:37] <kaan> it just stops :S
[02:37] <chinamann> looking at it @kgoetz
[02:37] <kaan> but i know the DVD's work i can play them on my playstation
[02:38] <joseluix> kaan, if appear a messagebox , you only must close it and forward (a little) tha video
[02:39] <kgoetz> chinamann: you dont need to say @username, simply put their name at the start of the line (like i have here)
[02:39] <chinamann> ok, thx.
[02:39] <joseluix> kaan, do you have installed kaffeine-xine, kaffeine gstreamer
[02:39] <kaan> joseluix i tried forwarding doesnt work :(
[02:39] <kaan> i dont think so
[02:39] <kaan> i'll install those
[02:40] <chinamann> kgoetz: can u help me in a step by step instruction? I did it now for 20 times..
[02:40] <kgoetz> well... no :P
[02:40] <joseluix> someone know how to make a .iso with k3b
[02:41] <joseluix> with a directory, no with a cd
[02:41] <kgoetz> joseluix: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:41] <kgoetz> (i havent, but fwiw...)
[02:42] <joseluix> since now
[02:42] <chinamann> kgoetz: how to check out what's the trouble to poste a error message?
[02:42] <chinamann> i 'm trying, but server still asking for pw...
[02:42] <kgoetz> chinamann: what have you tried?
[02:43] <chinamann> key pair, copy it to server, athorize it on server, and login manually.
[02:43] <kgoetz> what a stupid howto. (the advanced openssh one). it tells you to use a passphrase on the keys
[02:43] <chinamann> i would likle to delete all the done work, but i need someone who telles me step by step how to do.
[02:44] <Kanzar> hey, i can't install gksu @_@
[02:44] <Kanzar> it's saying the package isn't available >_>;;
[02:44] <chinamann> kgoetz: if i check howto's it looks realy easy, but i dont get it done now for 5 day#s
[02:45] <chinamann> in the beginning i deleted all the files on the server in the .ssh folder, also on client in .ssh folder
[02:45] <kgoetz> chinamann: delete your ~/.ssh/id_*pub file (* is eithe dsa or rsa), and on th system you connect to remove your system from its ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[02:45] <chinamann> was there anything wrong?
[02:45] <kgoetz> oh, in that case we can start from scratch :)
[02:46] <chinamann> sorry, dont get u kgoetz..
[02:46] <kgoetz> chinamann: delete all files again in ~/.ssh/
[02:46] <chinamann> server or client?
[02:47] <kgoetz> system you connect from (client)
[02:47] <chinamann> yes.
[02:47]  * Kanzar is ignored D:
[02:47] <kgoetz> then run `ssh-keygen -t rsa`
[02:48] <kgoetz> Kanzar: why do you need it?
[02:48] <Kanzar> i'm trying to set up my wireless usb device
[02:48] <Kanzar> it's not p&p, so... i'm just following the walkthrough
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> a 24 pisel panel is pretty unobtrusive
[02:48] <joseluix> kgoetz th page about k3b doesn't tellme anything...
[02:48] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Hardy beta and there's still an annoying bug that existed in Dapper already: When I click on a file:// link in Konqueror I get "This untrusted page links to file://... Do you want to follow the link?" I always have to click on "Follow", there's no "remember this site" checkbox or something like that. How can I stop this message?
[02:48] <kgoetz> Kanzar: the guide i assume is for gnome?
[02:48] <Kanzar> i'm here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide#check
[02:49] <chinamann> passphrase , yes or no?
[02:49] <kgoetz> chinamann: no
[02:49] <chinamann> ok, done
[02:49] <kgoetz> Kanzar: your trying to run   gksudo gedit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts ?
[02:50] <Kanzar> yeah
[02:50] <kgoetz> Kanzar: wherever it says gksudo gedit you run kdesu kate
[02:50] <Kanzar> ah, ok
[02:50] <Kanzar> thanks
[02:50] <chinamann> kgoetz: what now?
[02:50] <kgoetz> chinamann: now run `ssh-copy-id ~/.ssh/*pub remoteserver` (where remoteserver is your servers name)
[02:50] <kgoetz> Kanzar: np :)
[02:52] <chinamann> kgoetz: do i need to give a folder on the remote server?
[02:52] <kgoetz> chinamann: no
[02:52] <kgoetz> just the servers IP or hostname
[02:53] <chinamann> kgoetz: /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[02:54] <kgoetz> chinamann: pastebin the output of `ls -lh ~/.ssh/` and the command you just ran
[02:55] <Kanzar> hmm...
[02:55] <Kanzar> so if sudo pccardtl ident doesn't work, i'm kind of fcked in trying to install my card?
[02:55] <chinamann> markus@markus-laptop:~/.ssh$ ls -lh /home/markus/.ssh/
[02:55] <chinamann> insgesamt 8,0K
[02:55] <chinamann> -rw------- 1 markus markus 1,7K 2008-03-23 03:49 id
[02:55] <chinamann> -rw-r--r-- 1 markus markus  402 2008-03-23 03:49 id.pub
[02:55] <chinamann> markus@markus-laptop:~/.ssh$
[02:55] <kaan> hey everyone
[02:56] <kaan> when I'm trying to install vlc, adept manager crashes everytime! :(
[02:56] <chinamann> ssh-copy-id /home/markus/.ssh/id.pub xxx@xxx
[02:56] <kaan> signal 11 SIGSEGV
[02:56] <kgoetz> !pastebin | chinamann
[02:56] <ubotu> chinamann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <kaan> can anyone help me why
[02:57] <navetz> can anyone help me, I cant mount my external hard drive or usb drive
[02:57] <wmf> o yes
[02:57] <kgoetz> chinamann: how did you generate that id? whats the command you used?
[02:57] <wmf> 我看不懂英语怎么办？
[02:57] <kgoetz> wmf: english in here please
[02:58] <kgoetz> kaan: try installing with apt, it will hopefully provide more details
[02:58] <Kanzar> lol
[02:58] <Kanzar> wmf doesn't understand english
[02:58] <wmf> yes
[02:58] <Kanzar> @_@
[02:59] <wmf> hehe
[02:59] <chinamann> kgoetz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60680/
[02:59] <chinamann> guys, sorry i'm reaaly new to it.
[02:59] <wmf> I would not say that I am sorry English
[02:59] <chinamann> kgoetz: i used the command what u asked.
[02:59] <kgoetz> !cn | wmf
[02:59] <ubotu> wmf: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[03:00] <Kanzar> DAMMIT
[03:00] <Kanzar> i just googled my usb wireless device... won't work with anything other than windows
[03:00] <Kanzar> time to restore my windows partition then~ and shelve my dreams of having a linux box :<
[03:00] <kaan> kgoetz how would i install vlc using apt help please im new
[03:01] <kgoetz> chinamann: ssh-copy-id -i /home/markus/.ssh/id.pub root@xxx.de (you need the -i)
[03:01] <kgoetz> Kanzar: or replace the wireless dongle
[03:01] <Kanzar> XD
[03:01] <Kanzar> yeah... *pokes at wallet*
[03:01] <kgoetz> kaan: open up konsole, then type in `sudo apt-get intall vlc`
[03:01] <NickPresta> kaan, sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:01] <Kanzar> not gonna happen :P
[03:01] <kgoetz> Kanzar: heh.
[03:02] <Kanzar> :[
[03:02] <chinamann> kgoetz: got it done
[03:02] <kaan> thank you kgoetz!
[03:02] <kgoetz> Kanzar: your only one lottery away from bein free... ;)
[03:02] <kgoetz> chinamann: cool :)
[03:02] <Kanzar> XD
[03:03] <chinamann> still asking :(
[03:03] <Kanzar> well, network admin wants to change to WPA2
[03:03] <Kanzar> and the device i'm using atm doesn't support it
[03:03] <chinamann> i just got the identification done..
[03:03] <Kanzar> so they may be replacing it for me? :D
[03:04] <chinamann> kgoetz: i come back later, forogt my darling and forgto to make breakfast.. :)
[03:04] <kgoetz> chinamann: make sure the server has keybased passwords turned on
[03:04] <kgoetz> chinamann: hehe. catch you then :)
[03:04] <chinamann> how to ensure it?
[03:04] <kgoetz> Kanzar: good luck :)
[03:04] <kgoetz> chinamann: it says how in the advanced ssh guide on the wiki :)
[03:04] <Kanzar> haha
[03:05] <Kanzar> i'll need it :D
[03:05] <chinamann> guys... dont let me die!
[03:05] <Kanzar> well, if i come back in sometime this week, you'll know why ;)
[03:05] <Kanzar> ttyl (hopefully!)
[03:09] <kaan> okay so i installed VLC but it doesn't seem to open up DVDs
[03:10] <kgoetz> !dvd
[03:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:11] <joseluix> kaan, click play, so in th new windows choose DVD, then accept
[03:12] <kaan> nope, not working :(
[03:15] <tronz> hello
[03:16] <tronz> what is a good usenet client
[03:16] <tronz> I installed Klibido
[03:16] <tronz> but I am having some trouble with it and the docs are quite poor
[03:17] <tronz> any better clients or some1 willing to help me get klibido working?
[03:17] <kaan> hey everone whats the command line to activate DVD-decryption?
[03:18] <kaan> ?
[03:18] <kaan> install-css.sh?
[03:20] <kgoetz> !libdvdcss
[03:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:21] <kgoetz> hm. kaan iirc its in /usr/share/doc/libdvdcss2/ somwehrere
[03:23] <joseluix> kaan enter here: http://jantux.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/codecs-para-ubuntu-y-linux/
[03:28] <joseluix> kan, paste this in your terminal :
[03:28] <joseluix> eluix> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-pitfd
 ll libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs libquicktime0 libdvdread3 flashplugin-nonfree totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin unrar
 Paste in the terminal and enter
 those are the codecs, is your problem, with that
[03:35] <nonewmsgs> what is an ugly plugin
[03:36] <kgoetz> nonewmsgs: one that the developers wont promice is stable
[03:38] <matt1728> can someone help me install the java plugin for firefox?
[03:40] <bibek> matt1728: install the sun-java6-plugin
[03:40] <bibek> package
[03:41] <bibek> u can use adept manager to search for the package
[03:41] <matt1728> kk thanks
[03:45] <dennister> ok, i really need some networking assistance here...eg. can lisa and samba co-exist in each of two pc's?
[03:45] <bibek> one weird problem, my kdm starts in very low resolution like 800x600 and after login its 1024x768
[03:45] <kgoetz> !info lisa
[03:45] <ubotu> lisa (source: kdenetwork): LAN information server for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 172 kB, installed size 612 kB
[03:46] <kgoetz> dennister: what problem are you having?
[03:47] <dennister> well, i was using lisa as a stopgap until i could get samba configured properly, but only the lisa works, and i'm wondering if it's preventing the samba from working, like on the same port or...?
[03:47] <dennister> that's one issue :)
[03:47] <kgoetz> i dont kow enough about lisa to comment on that.
[03:48] <kgoetz> although if you ask your samba problem it may become apparent :) (with relevent logs)
[03:48] <dennister> well there aren't errors when i testparm it
[03:50] <dennister> pc A is downstairs (beginnings of a fileserver); i'm on pc B; the modem/router isn't even listing A as a device, although it did a few days ago, and both can surf
[03:50] <dennister> A is also a user of B that shows up when i reboot in the login screen
[03:51] <kgoetz> a isa user of b?
[03:51] <dennister> no, i made A a user of B via samba
[03:52]  * kgoetz doesnt follow, but also doesnt use samba
[03:53] <dennister> what doesn't use samba? lisa?
[03:54] <dennister> i actually know that...i did have samba successfully running about a year ago when I was still living with my son, and he had the windows-only machine
[03:55] <dennister> like i said, i was only using lisa as a temporary stop-gap measure until i could get samba working...but I'm having trouble with the samba and am afraid to remove lisa 'cause it's the only thing that's working so far
[03:55] <kgoetz> i dont use samba
[03:56] <dennister> ok then...would you know why A is not showing up as a device in my modem/router software? it did a few days ago
[03:56] <kaan> okay so I'm still tryin to play a DVD
[03:56] <kaan> and i realized under disk & filesystems my dvd-drive wasn't enabled
[03:56] <kaan> i tried to enable it but it crashed :S
[03:57] <dennister> other pps r having trouble with k3b and dvd-playing today?
[03:59] <dennister> would anyone be able to tell me why pc A is not showing as a device int he modem/router software? even though it can surf as well as pc B?
[04:00] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working? (i get no sound coming out of them)
[04:00] <dennister> are others having trouble with dvd's totally crashing whole pc's?
[04:00] <kaan> question
[04:00] <LimCore> dennister: I dont
[04:01] <kaan> under disk & file systems
[04:01] <kaan> my dvd-burner/player seems to be mounted under
[04:01] <chinamann> kgoetz: still here?
[04:01] <kaan> media/floppy0
[04:01] <kaan> is this right?
[04:01]  * LimCore marks scoponly as foobar and useless
[04:01] <dennister> kaan: no
[04:01]  * LimCore wishes less programs would be totally broken 
[04:01] <dennister> should be under /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom
[04:02] <kaan> how should i modify it?
[04:02] <kaan> ok
[04:02] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scponly/+bug/122715
[04:02] <LimCore> this bug in over half year old.. how can I help to have it fixed finally
[04:03] <dennister> kaan: you may have to edit /etc/fstab...kde's settings is only front end to fstab
[04:03] <nonewmsgs> i think you can also do a manual mount by makinga  directory like /media/dvd  and then mount sometihng to it
[04:04] <kaan> i can't change it dennister
[04:04] <kaan> ugh
[04:04] <kaan> i dunno which way to go for now
[04:04] <kaan> :)
[04:04] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working? (i get no sound coming out of them)
[04:04] <dennister> kaan: yes, as i thought...go to terminal
[04:04] <kaan> ok
[04:04] <kaan> and...
[04:04] <dennister> type in: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:04] <dennister> warning, be very careful!
[04:05] <kaan> hehe ok
[04:05]  * nonewmsgs wonders why everyone prefers nano to kate
[04:05] <kaan> editting
[04:05] <kaan> hm there it is
[04:05] <dennister> yep...the real meat of disks and filesystems
[04:06] <kaan> dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user, atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:06] <kaan> this is the line
[04:06] <kaan> oh but on top of that line
[04:06] <kaan> there is a:
[04:06] <kaan> dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:07] <kaan> but i dont see that one under disk & filesystems
[04:07] <dennister> well that's not a bad line...make sure there's a '/' before 'dev
[04:07] <kaan> yep yep i just couldn't type that here
[04:07] <dennister> ok...got it
[04:08] <kaan> so what should i do? :(
[04:08] <dennister> user will often meet root, especially if you have a 'uid=0'
[04:09] <kaan> im not sure about my user ID but i am the only user of the computer also the admin
[04:09] <dennister> do you have a 'users' group? if you don't know, you can delete the 'user' option and insert 'uid=1000' which is probably you
[04:09] <dennister> then you will be 1000
[04:09] <kaan> okay what should i do then?
[04:10] <kaan> this is the header
[04:10] <kaan> <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:10] <kaan> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[04:10] <dennister> k...just going back to your other options...
[04:11] <kaan> and these are the other lines
[04:11] <kaan> # /dev/sda3
[04:11] <kaan> UUID=12b34419-8645-4395-aecf-3a3450d2dad9 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount$
[04:11] <kaan> # /dev/sda1
[04:11] <kaan> UUID=041427B81427AC1C /media/sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,$
[04:11] <kaan> # /dev/sda2
[04:11] <kaan> UUID=7d4979ac-7b4a-4787-b4de-92debdc3968d none swap sw 0 0
[04:11] <dennister> I have 'users,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid" as my options, but then i know that i'm part of the users group
[04:11] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working? (i get no sound coming out of them)
[04:11] <kaan> those are just the harddrives i think
[04:11] <dennister> kaan: stop...we usually use pastebin to stop flooding the channel with lots of lines
[04:11] <dennister> yes, they are
[04:12] <kaan> ugh i forgot how to login to registration
[04:12] <kaan> sorry :(
[04:12] <dennister> the 'rw' option could be giving you a problem, but i don't think so
[04:13] <kaan> my external harddrive works with rw though
[04:14] <dennister> kaan: yes, that's fine...i just had an issue with being told i couldn't enable my burner through disks & filesystems, tho, because there was an audio cd in the drive
[04:14] <dennister> ok, you've made a small change in your fstab, changing the 'user' to 'uid=1000' right?
[04:14] <kaan> ok i'll do that
[04:15] <kaan> thats the cdrom0 line right?
[04:15] <kaan> change the first 0 to 1000?
[04:15] <dennister> yep
[04:15] <dennister> no
[04:15] <dennister> before you get to the first 0 at the end of the line, you have some options, separated by commas
[04:16] <kaan> yes
[04:16] <dennister> one of thos options is 'user'
[04:16] <kaan> suid?
[04:16] <kaan> oh right
[04:16] <kaan> ok
[04:16] <dennister> delete that, replace it with uid=1000, and make sure there are no spaces after the commas
[04:17] <kaan> it is udf,iso9660 user,atime..... should i delete the whole iso9660 user? or just user?
[04:17] <dennister> just 'user'
[04:17] <kaan> ok done/modified
[04:18] <kaan> should i try changing the mount point now?
[04:18] <dennister> add 'uid=1000' before one of the commas...no, don't change mount point
[04:19] <kaan> okay i deleted user and changed it to uid=1000... for the mount point: When I browsed it automatically changed itself to /proc :S and i cant even find media as a type or folder
[04:21] <dennister> media will always be under the root / directory
[04:21] <dennister> in terminal, go to file, and open up another konsole
[04:22] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working? (i get no sound coming out of them)
[04:22] <dennister> type in 'ls /' and you'll see it listed
[04:22] <dennister> don't worry about /proc:S for now
[04:23] <kaan> what do you mean by file dennister? go to file?
[04:24] <dennister> kaan: what i want you to do now is close the fstab file, saving it's changes, and reboot...the fstab is so important for booting any tiny change should be tested...your problem could be solved
[04:24] <dennister> kaan: sorry...mean 'session'
[04:24] <Strangelet> Is there a KDE port for the GIMP? It's different look PEEVES me!
[04:25] <kaan> okay i modified fstab and saved it... so go to session and open up another konsole window... what do you mean by session sorry im new
[04:26] <dennister> kaan: never mind, if u've saved fstab and closed it, just type in "ls /" without quotes
[04:26] <dennister> do you see 'media' in the list?
[04:26] <kaan> ok now there is media, cdrom, etc, and other folders
[04:26] <kaan> yep
[04:26] <kaan> cd media
[04:26] <dennister> k, good
[04:26] <kaan> ops :)
[04:28] <dennister> yes, you can go "ls /media", and see all sorts of folders within media
[04:28] <dennister> but right now i'd like you to "sudo nano /etc/group' and look carefully at the format of those lines
[04:28] <kaan> hmmm there is a media folder under etc folder as well as root
[04:29] <dennister> kaan: all the folders for your mounted disks will be under root's media, not etc's media
[04:29] <kaan> okay format is root:x:0 and such
[04:29] <dennister> good, do u see a line with 'users'?
[04:30] <kaan> yes users:x:100
[04:31] <dennister> kaan: ok, you want to add your name and root, in the same format used by other lines...hold on
[04:31] <kaan> yes i have kaan:x:1000;   there
[04:31] <kaan> this is my name and root right?
[04:31] <kaan> take ur time dennister, thnx
[04:32] <dennister> kaan: ok, my line says: users:x:100:camus,cathy,root         note that there r no spaces
[04:32] <greeg> hi
[04:33] <greeg> i set up my printer under K->System->HPLIP Tool Box.  a test page came out and looked fine.  but open office cannot see it.
[04:34] <dennister> kaan: have u added yourself and root to the users line?
[04:34] <greeg> gwenview sees it.
[04:34] <greeg> i'll close all instances of open office first.  brb
[04:34] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working? (i get no sound coming out of them)
[04:35] <dennister> poor geju...he's been so patient with his question...sorry i can't help geju
[04:35] <dennister> never done it
[04:35] <geju> its driving me insane...cant figure it out
[04:36] <Nix3r>  how can i install a psybnc on my box. package name?
[04:36] <dennister> join the club...been having some networking issues for awhile that i can't solve either
[04:36] <geju> what kind of networking issues
[04:37] <kaan> dennister i have kaan:x:1000 at the bottom
[04:37] <dennister> oh, why my modem/router can't list pc B as a device, even though it did a few days agao and B can still surf
[04:37] <dennister> kaan: yes, but on your 'users' line, you want to add your 'name,root'
[04:37] <geju> im not sure i follow
[04:38] <kaan> okay on users i have users:x:100
[04:38] <kaan> so i should add my name such as users:x:100,kaan
[04:38] <kaan> ?
[04:38] <dennister> yes, and after 'kaan'...',root'
[04:39] <dennister> so it becomes: users;x:100,kaan,root
[04:39] <dennister> and nooooo spaces after commas
[04:39] <kaan> ok
[04:39] <dennister> geju: never mind my issue now, thx...i just wanna finish with kaan here
[04:39] <kaan> ok
[04:39] <kaan> saved
[04:40] <dennister> kaan: an: now, if you ever edit your fstab again, you can use 'gid=100' as an option, like 'uid=1000'
[04:40] <kaan> hm ok
[04:40] <dennister> and know that both root and yourself, the main user, will be able to mount a drive
[04:40] <kaan> nice
[04:41] <kaan> should i restart?
[04:41] <dennister> or you could use 'users' as an option the way you did have 'user', and achieve the same thing
[04:41] <dennister> kaan: yes, reboot now, and your problem could be solved
[04:41] <kaan> ok i'll be right back pls don't go anywhere :)
[04:41] <dennister> don't count on it, but maybe :)
[04:42] <kaan> i hope the system wont crash....
[04:42] <dennister> k, will do
[04:42] <kaan> since we changed important files :(
[04:42] <kaan> okay brb
[04:42] <dennister> we only made very minor changes, should be fine
[04:42] <dennister> brb in 5...need a cig
[04:43] <infurnus__> any idea on how to hide backup files? e.g. foo~
[04:44] <kaan> dennister im back
[04:45] <maduser> infurnus put a . in front of the file
[04:45] <kaan> disk & file systems is back to normal
[04:46] <kaan> mount point again says /media/floppy0 for the Burner DVD_RW ND-3550A
[04:47] <dennister> kaan: lol...shouldn't be showing that
[04:47] <dennister> ok, stay in disks & filesystems
[04:47] <kaan> haha i dunno why it loves the floppy so much
[04:48] <kaan> but when i modify
[04:48] <kaan> how do i set it up?
[04:48] <dennister> now. modify
[04:48] <kaan> what should i put for the mount point:
[04:48] <dennister> change the dev with the pulldown menu to /media/cdrom0
[04:48] <dennister> oops
[04:49] <dennister>  media/cdrom0 is the mount point
[04:50] <kaan> hm it said /media/cdrom0 is already in use by another entry? Continue?
[04:50] <dennister> but above that, change the dev to dev/ whatever is the correct one
[04:50] <dennister> take a look and find out what is using it
[04:50] <kaan> there is system under the DVD
[04:51] <kaan> then there are 4 harddrives, 1 external and 1 for windows 2 for linux (including swap)
[04:51] <dennister> is your dvd drive an external one?
[04:51] <kaan> no
[04:51] <dennister> ok, think i know what's happening
[04:52] <dennister> modify the burner again
[04:52] <kaan> and under any of those i dont see /media/cdrom0  so i dunno why it said its being used
[04:52] <kaan> ok
[04:52] <kaan> my modify type is automatic right now :S what should i choose?
[04:52] <dennister> right at the very top, where it says type...change that to /dev/sdc0
[04:53] <kaan> oh ok
[04:53] <dennister> dangit...sorry
[04:54] <kaan> there is no such thing however there is iso9660-CD-rom and bdev and couple more dev's
[04:54] <dennister> keep type at automatic...
[04:54] <kaan> lol ok
[04:54] <kaan> just change mount point to /media/cdrom0 ? and hit continue this time?
[04:54] <dennister> under the mount point, which sould be media/cdrom0, click the circle 'by name
[04:55] <dennister> and inside the bar, type in /dev/sdc0
[04:56] <kaan> the mountpoint /dev/sdc0 does not exist. You will not be able to enable it until it is created.\ Should I create the mountpoint?
[04:56] <kaan> This is the error i got
[04:57] <dennister> yes, creat it
[04:57] <kaan> oh one sec
[04:58] <dennister> wait
[04:58] <kaan> do u want me to change the mount point or the name? which kubuntu are you using?
[04:58] <kaan> or i mean linux
[04:58] <dennister> i had to look ^^^^^
[04:58] <kaan> lol ok
[04:58] <dennister> you said earlier your burner is under scd0, right?
[04:59] <kaan> did i? :) i dont think i said that
[04:59] <kaan> however when i wanted to change the mount point to cdrom0  it said its already under use
[04:59] <dennister> ^^^dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660
[05:00] <dennister> so that means, beside the name, you should be typing in /dev/scd0
[05:00] <dennister> disks & filesystems should be matching your fstab
[05:01] <kaan> ohhhhh gotcha
[05:01] <kaan> name or mount point?
[05:01] <dennister> name
[05:01] <kaan> ok changed the name
[05:01] <kaan> what about type and mount point
[05:02] <kaan> type is automatic right now and mount point is /media/floppy0
[05:02] <dennister> mount point should still be /media/cdrom0
[05:02] <kaan> ok
[05:02] <kaan> ok im hitting ok... everything is set?
[05:02] <dennister> almost...what other options are under name
[05:03] <dennister> i'd put an x in 'enable at startup' and 'writeable'
[05:03] <kaan> there is mount point then there is device and under device... u choose by name, by UUID or by label... then there is enable at start up and writable
[05:03] <dennister> put x's in the boxes...not radio circles
[05:04] <kaan> someone told me before though its bad to try enabling the DVD-roms if there is no actual DVDs in
[05:04] <kaan> ok
[05:04] <dennister> that other person was probably right, actually
[05:04] <kaan> yea so i think i should keep enable at start up unchecked
[05:04] <kaan> okay so everything seems fine
[05:04] <kaan> cross fingers :)
[05:04] <dennister> in 'mount permission' make sure
[05:05] <dennister> that root user is not the only person who can enable/disable
[05:05] <kaan> currently it is one user at a time may enable/disable
[05:05] <dennister> then you should be able to hit ok
[05:05] <kaan> allrite
[05:05] <dennister> that should be fine
[05:05] <kaan> same question
[05:05] <kaan> already in use cdrom0
[05:05] <kaan> continue?
[05:06] <dennister> k...can you see any other device that's using cdrom0 in the mount point?
[05:06] <kaan> no
[05:06] <kaan> :(
[05:06] <kaan> maybe i should just say continue?
[05:07] <dennister> try it
[05:07] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  My network isn't starting up after booting.  My "networking" service is marked as starting up on boot in System Settings.
[05:07] <kaan> oh it says it doesnt exist. Should I create the mountpoint..... yes?
[05:07] <dennister> yes
[05:07] <kaan> allrite
[05:07] <kgoetz> Ertain: what is the network, and are you sure your connected to it?
[05:08] <kaan> im gonna try playing this DVD again
[05:08] <Ertain> I mean my network service.
[05:08] <dennister> and you can delete the other /media/sdc0 or what ever you created earlier
[05:08] <Ertain> If I restart my networking service it'll connect (/etc/init.d/networking restart).
[05:08] <kaan> from fstab?
[05:09] <kaan> oh wow dennister.... this is really interesting
[05:09] <kaan> I got this error:
[05:10] <kaan> The source can't be read.
[05:10] <kaan> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[05:10] <kgoetz> Ertain: which doesnt answer my question at all...
[05:10] <dennister> kaan: not from fstab...remember when i told you the wrong dev earlier? b4 i corrected myself?
[05:11] <dennister> in terminal, type in 'ls /media
[05:11] <maduser> you could do it here so we could see
[05:11] <kaan> oh i dont think i ever created that
[05:11] <maduser> eg /cmd ls /media
[05:11] <dennister> ok then...i'm glad you find it interesting :)
[05:12] <kaan> ok i think i need the enough rights to play because the first FBI warning and ATTENTION things show up
[05:12] <maduser> cdrom
[05:12] <maduser> cdrom0
[05:12] <kaan> oh wait
[05:12] <kaan> after all that i didn't enable the DVD
[05:12] <kaan> :D
[05:12] <kaan> ok now its enabled i'll try again
[05:13] <dennister> have u tried sticking the dvd in to see if a popup comes up? asking you what you want to do with it?
[05:13] <dennister> oh, now it's finally enabled?
[05:13] <kaan> yea what program u want to use to open up the media thing pops up
[05:13] <kaan> yep it is
[05:14] <kaan> it wasn't before.... it was crashing
[05:14] <dennister> wonderful :)
[05:14] <kaan> i know we rock
[05:14] <kaan> lol
[05:14] <dennister> not crashing now, eh? try playing it with caffeine
[05:14] <dennister> oops...showing my addiction :)
[05:15] <kaan> okay yea the same not enough rights error popped up
[05:15] <dennister> well now you know a bit about the relationship between users, groups, fstab, disks & filesystems
[05:15] <kaan> yes
[05:15] <dennister> not a problem...we are making progress
[05:15] <kaan> i really appreciate the help
[05:15] <dennister> modify the burner again in d&f
[05:15] <kaan> ok
[05:16] <kaan> i feel i need those rights somehow...
[05:16] <kaan> cause it seems like its going to play it
[05:16] <dennister> good if it plays
[05:17] <kaan> no though i get that error saying i dont have the rights to play this DVD
[05:17] <dennister> actually, i thought the permissions could be set in D&F's 'advanced' but not so...modifying the burner won't help
[05:17] <dennister> open up konqueror
[05:17] <kaan> ok
[05:18] <kaan> opened
[05:19] <dennister> go to /media/cdrom0, and left-click the folder, choose 'properties'
[05:20] <dennister> first tab is 'general' open 'permissions' tab and tell me what you see
[05:20] <kaan> access permissions: owner,group,others: can view content
[05:21] <dennister> who's the owner?
[05:21] <kaan> ownership: kaan, group: 4294967295
[05:21] <dennister> group is what?!?!?!?
[05:21] <chinamann> hi again.
[05:21] <chinamann> kgoetz, are u still here?
[05:21] <kaan> :)
[05:21] <kaan> 4294967295 there is a dropbox next to it
[05:22] <kgoetz> kaan: o_0 wtf?
[05:22] <kgoetz> chinamann: yes i am
[05:22] <kaan> there is video, cdrom, admin
[05:22] <kaan> kaan as the dropbox items
[05:23] <chinamann> kgoetz: after steeling down all with my dear :) i am again on air and have cjhecked out the sshd_config already.
[05:23] <chinamann> no idea what i neccesary...
[05:23] <kaan> what should i set the group to? kaan? :)
[05:23] <dennister> yeah, that should be ok
[05:24] <chinamann> kgoetz: what do i need to check out ???
[05:24] <kgoetz> chinamann: have you looked at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH#head-782ec62d8972acdaa50d6e2e0bef5779264c9f2b
[05:24] <kaan> Could not modify the ownership of file /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS. You have insufficient access to the file to perform the change
[05:24] <chinamann> yes.
[05:24] <kaan> thats what i got
[05:25] <dennister> ok, let's take another look at your group file: in terminal, type in sudo nano /etc/group
[05:25] <kgoetz> chinamann: and you check for these lines? PubkeyAuthentication yes
[05:25] <kgoetz> RSAAuthentication yes
[05:25] <chinamann> in sshd_config or in ssh_config?
[05:26] <kaan> ok
[05:26] <kaan> looking
[05:26] <kaan> what does the nano command do by the way?
[05:26] <kgoetz> chinamann: sshd_config. on the server
[05:27] <dennister> kaan: you want to add your name to cdrom line, audio line, video line...
[05:27] <kgoetz> Kaevik: its a basic text editor
[05:27] <chinamann> i changed them both already, no change..
[05:27] <JapaneseStudent> hello everyone
[05:27] <kgoetz> chinamann: restarted the serverice?
[05:27] <kgoetz> kaan: you should really use gpasswd for group changes
[05:27] <JapaneseStudent> could anyone tell me if the livecd comes with libmtp support in Amarok pre-installed?
[05:28] <kgoetz> !info libmtp
[05:28] <ubotu> Package libmtp does not exist in gutsy
[05:28] <chinamann> kgoetz: yes
[05:28] <kgoetz> JapaneseStudent: sure thats what its called?
[05:28] <dennister> kaan: you also want to make sure your name is in the lines for plugdev, powerdev
[05:28] <kaan> I cannot find audio
[05:29] <kgoetz> chinamann: i'm not sure whats wrong. i havent had that problem before.
[05:29] <dennister> ??? gotta be there
[05:29] <kgoetz> seriously, use gpasswd :)
[05:29] <kaan> i got plugdev and powerdev
[05:29] <kaan> oh ok audio
[05:29] <kaan> yea kaan's there too
[05:29] <dennister> kgoetz: could you take over for me with kaan here? you're actually right
[05:30] <chinamann> kgoetz: i was willing to make data backup by rsync and then key auth, is fine..
[05:30] <kaan> ok everything seems okay here dennister
[05:30] <JapaneseStudent> hmm well I don't know if that is what the package would be be called
[05:30] <dennister> good...other names on the cdrom line should be haldaemon
[05:30] <kgoetz> dennister: where are we up to?
[05:30] <dennister> kgoetz: just a minute
[05:31] <kgoetz> JapaneseStudent: look at packages.ubuntu.com and see if you can find it
[05:31] <kaan> yep
[05:31] <kaan> thats there too
[05:31] <JapaneseStudent> but I do know the protocol is mtp... how about if anyone could tell me if Creative Zen V Plus or other MTP devices work out of the box with Amarok on the livecd
[05:31] <dennister> kaan: add haldaemon to powerdev, plugdev, and floppy, too
[05:32] <chinamann> kgoetz: waht is Identity file in the config?
[05:32] <dennister> i'm just making sure...you want to make sure for these groups that you have the right permissions
[05:32] <kgoetz> chinamann: which file?
[05:32] <kaan> its already there
[05:32] <dennister> good
[05:32] <dennister> ok, close group, save file
[05:33] <kaan> ok
[05:33] <dennister> still in terminal, we're now going to make sure ownership is correct, and permissions are correct
[05:34] <kaan> ok
[05:34] <kaan> lets go
[05:34] <kaan> :)
[05:34] <dennister> type in: sudo chown kaan:kaan /media/cdrom0
[05:34] <chinamann> kgoetz: what means AuthorizedKeysFile ??
[05:34] <dennister> chown means change ownership :)
[05:34] <kaan> ok it changed it to readonly file system
[05:35] <dennister> not to worry just yet
[05:35] <kgoetz> chinamann: check the man page. its a list of hosts that are allowed keybased authentication
[05:35] <dennister> before the colon was the device owner, right after it was the group owner
[05:35] <chinamann> kgoetz do i need RhostsRSAAuthetication?
[05:35] <dennister> now, type in: sudo chmod a+rwx /media/cdrom0
[05:36] <kgoetz> chinamann: check the man page
[05:36] <kaan> oh i don't think these are working
[05:36] <dennister> with 'chmod' being used to change permissions
[05:36] <kaan> last 2 commands
[05:36] <kgoetz> dennister: you shouldnt arbitarily change system directories permissions
[05:36] <kaan> chown: changing ownership of `/media/cdrom0': Read-only file system
[05:36] <kaan> this is what i got
[05:36] <dennister> kgoetz: ur right
[05:37] <dennister> kgoetz: can u help kaan now, he's having trouble with perms in regards to dvd\s
[05:37] <Dr_willis> one normally dozent change owndership/perms of mountpoints  - i thought.
[05:37] <kgoetz> dennister: ok. what have we found out so far?
[05:37] <kgoetz> Dr_willis: correct.
[05:37] <dennister> that was the only or main way i knew how...so far we've been able to enable the bloody burner...which we couldn't before
[05:38] <Dr_willis> but i just got here..:) so i dont know the whole problem here.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Isent there a burner group?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> actually why would BURNING  disk even be using the mountpoint?
[05:38] <dennister> Dr_willis: not always
[05:38] <kgoetz> Dr_willis: i dont know the full story yet either - i'm trying to find it out ;)
[05:38] <dennister> i don't have one
[05:39] <dennister> after we finally got the burner fixed in fstab and such, with right mount points and all, it's working
[05:39] <dennister> kaan put the dvd in and it wanted to play...but he's still being told he didn't have enough permissions
[05:39] <kgoetz> whats not working - burning or playback?
[05:39] <dennister> playback
[05:40] <dennister> kaan: i don't know kgoetz very well yet, but Dr_willis is the bomb! he knows everything way better than i :)
[05:40]  * Dr_willis hides
[05:40] <kaan> lol
[05:40] <kaan> haha
[05:40] <kgoetz> hehe
[05:40] <kgoetz> Dr_willis: your in for it now ;)
[05:41] <kaan> come out dr willis
[05:41] <Dr_willis> I cant rember the last time i actually played an actual dvd video disk.
[05:41] <kaan> :P
[05:41] <kaan> hahaha
[05:41] <kaan> yea they'll go away soon
[05:41] <dennister> now i need to go peeeeee :)
[05:41] <kaan> so whos helping me?
[05:41] <kgoetz> kaan: what are the permissions on your cd/dvd device?
[05:41] <kaan> can view content
[05:42] <kaan> user,group,admin
[05:42] <kgoetz> kaan: pastebin the output of `ls -lh /dev/cdrom` and `ls -lh /dev/dvdrom` (not sure if the latter exists)
[05:42]  * kgoetz isnt running kubuntu, so has to guess at times
[05:43] <kaan> okay how can i login again to pastebin :)
[05:43] <stdin> you don't need to login, just paste there and click send
[05:43] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2008-03-21 17:37 /dev/dvd -> hdc
[05:43] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2008-03-21 17:37 /dev/dvdrw -> hdc
[05:43] <kgoetz> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <kaan> oh gotcha
[05:44] <kgoetz> Dr_willis: hdc? not running a newer ubuntu?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> are mine. :) looks like they are  links to hdc - which is --> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2008-03-21 17:37 /dev/hdc
[05:44] <Dr_willis> kgoetz,  i got some machines that set them to hd## and some use sd##
[05:44] <kgoetz> Dr_willis: funky
[05:44] <kaan> ok pasted
[05:45] <kgoetz> link?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> kgoetz,  actually THIS box is running sidux at the moment. :) but i do have some ubuntu box's that dont use sd#
[05:45] <stdin> kaan: then you post the url here
[05:45] <kaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60696/
[05:45] <slougi> hey all, is there some way to tell the packaging system "I have this package, and will take care of updating it in the future"? Similar to emerge inject in gentoo
[05:45] <kaan> nice way of solving flooding :)
[05:45] <kgoetz> kaan: so run the same command on /dev/scd0?
[05:46] <kgoetz> slougi: look at apt pinning
[05:46] <slougi> kgoetz: right, thanks
[05:46] <kgoetz> slougi: np
[05:46] <dennister> ahhhhh all the real experts are showing their faces now :)
[05:47] <dennister> stdin is another soul i wished was in here earlier, heheheh
[05:47] <kgoetz> i think its experts wake up time
[05:47] <kaan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60698/
[05:47] <stdin> it's still too early for me
[05:47] <slougi> kgoetz: hmm that isn't quite what i was looking for...
[05:47] <dennister> yes, it seems that way...i, unfortunately, sometimes give others a bum steer when i try....going out for a cig, then i need some networking assistance ppl....brb
[05:48] <kgoetz> kaan: if you run `groups` what do you get?
[05:48] <geju> well if all the experts are up...does anyone know how to get headphones working (i get no sound out of them)
[05:48] <kaan> run it from the run command?
[05:48] <kaan> oh termina
[05:48] <kgoetz> from konsole
[05:48] <kaan> this: kaan adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[05:48] <slougi> geju: have you tried playing with all the mixer levels in alsamixer? alsa is a bit wonky that way
[05:49] <kaan> i'll use pastebin if it is actually too long is that ok kgoetz?
[05:49] <kgoetz> kaan: a few lines is ok, more then 3or 4 people get grouchy
[05:49] <kaan> ok
[05:50] <kgoetz> kaan: have you just added yourself to cdrom, or were you in it before?
[05:50] <kaan> i just created the cdrom actually i think :S
[05:50] <kgoetz> its a system group, so you better not have
[05:51] <kgoetz> kaan: if you just got added to cdrom, you'll have to logout before you can access that device
[05:51] <kaan> okay then i guess i just added mysel
[05:51] <re-align> Is there a program for configuring Apache2 and (if needed) PHP using a GUI? Or am I stuck with editing text files?
[05:51] <kaan> oh
[05:51] <kaan> ok i'll logout
[05:51] <kaan> i'll be right back kgoetz
[05:51] <kgoetz> ok
[05:52] <kgoetz> re-align: ebox perhaps, but files are always best
[05:53] <re-align> Don't need anything fancy, just setting one up for localhost use. Can't find a decent free webhost for my GalaxyTool, so I'll host one locally.
[05:54] <dennister> and now jucato...like i said, all the experts are night-owls
[05:54] <kgoetz> if your setting up one site i'd suggest using a text editor
[05:54] <kaan> ok im back
[05:54] <kaan> kgoetz
[05:55] <dennister> Dr_willis: could you help me with my networking issues now?
[05:55] <kaan> im trying again
[05:55] <dennister> pretty pls?
[05:55] <kaan> hm im not getting that permission error anymore
[05:55] <Dr_willis> dennister,  what issue?
[05:55] <kaan> but the DVD playback just stops
[05:56] <dennister> several i'm afraid
[05:56] <kaan> after showing the FBI warning and ATTENTION screens
[05:56] <dennister> story briefly: building a fileserver, started out with lisa, its working, then installed samba
[05:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:56] <kgoetz> kaan: i suspect its not permissions but software problem (which i cant help with, becausei dont use whatever your using to play it)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> kaan,  what player you using?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> you did install the dcss crud?
[05:56] <kaan> kaffeine
[05:56] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[05:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:56] <dennister> samba is not working, even tho it testparms ok on both machines
[05:57] <Dr_willis> run the player from the terminal, see if it says you need dvdcss.
[05:57] <chinamann> kgoetz: i made a debug file. Pls check out and advise .http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60699/
[05:57] <Dr_willis> dennister,  starting with the basics.. You did INSTALL the samba package?
[05:57] <dennister> yes, following this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide?highlight=%28samba%29
[05:58] <Dr_willis> dennister,  you did give your users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[05:58] <dennister> even added the fileserver (camus) to this machine as a user...yes
[05:58] <kaan> okay yea this is the error i get
[05:58] <kaan> The source can't be read.
[05:58] <kaan> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[05:58] <kaan> ops a little too long im sorry
[05:59] <chinamann> anybody a idea where to search for loggin in ?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. that howto is doing a lot of theings ive never had to do. :)
[05:59] <dennister> problem: now my modem/router doesn't even recognize camus as a separate device, altho it did, and i can change the nat stuff on camus
[06:00] <dennister> i have camus temporarily as allowing all applications (dmz mode) in the router/software
[06:01] <dennister> but like i said, camus does *not* show up as a separate computer, unlike this pc, ondaatje
[06:01] <Dr_willis> dennister,   lets clarify your whole setup You have a home lan? or are trying to get to a samba share across the internet?
[06:01] <dennister> home lan
[06:01] <kgoetz> chinamann: it cant find the file it wants - debug1: Trying private key: /home/markus/.ssh/id_rsa
[06:01] <Dr_willis> how i set up my home lan.... :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> apt-get install samba (done )
[06:02] <Dr_willis> give each user a smb password. (sudo smbpasswd -a username)
[06:02] <dennister> done
[06:02] <Dr_willis> edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf - to enable the shares....
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Thats about it...
[06:02] <dennister> done...all testparms well
[06:02] <Dr_willis> takes me all of 2 min. :)
[06:02] <chinamann> kgoetz: that's all i got ..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> does the local machine see the local shares then?
[06:02] <chinamann> what do i need to do?
[06:02] <dennister> which local machine?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> dennister,  one with shares...
[06:03] <Dr_willis> the machines should be seeing theirselfs.
[06:03] <dennister> k, am on ondaatje...its not seeing itself
[06:03] <Dr_willis> You are SURE you enabled/made some shares?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> there are none by default.
[06:04] <kaan> ah i give up for now
[06:04] <Dr_willis> I always uncomment/enable the home shares..
[06:04] <kaan> thanks for the help guys
[06:04] <kaan> bye
[06:05] <dennister> yes, i'm sure i did, and this one, when i hit samba shares, says it can't see any workgroups...'may be caused by an enabled firewall
[06:05] <kgoetz> chinamann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60680/ see where you put in 'id' here? leave that blank and try again
[06:05] <Dr_willis> dennister,  so smb://mshome/  shows nothing eh?
[06:05] <dennister> yep...shows nada...error message
[06:05] <chinamann> sorry kgoetz, dont get u
[06:06] <geju> does anyone know how to get headphones working (i get no sound out of them)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> sudo iptables --list
[06:06] <Dr_willis> should show if any firewall rules are enabled.
[06:06] <kgoetz> afk a while.
[06:07] <dennister> Dr_willis: three chain segments, policy is ACCEPT for all 3
[06:07] <Dr_willis> hain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> target     prot opt source               destination
[06:07] <Dr_willis> rules shiw up under target. :) blank = no tules.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> rules.
[06:07] <dennister> yep, and identical for chain forward and chain output
[06:08] <Dr_willis> SO it seems you ahve no rules setup
[06:08] <dennister> exactly...only firewall is with the modem/router combo device
[06:08] <dennister> to which both machines, camus and ondaatje, are connected via ethernet cables
[06:10] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.ca/953613          is my pastebin of my working samba config file
[06:10] <dennister> Dr_willis: ok, this is wierd: i just took another gander at my smb.conf file, and this time i'm sure workgroup line is missing, although i KNOW i put it in at least twice
[06:11] <Dr_willis> dennister,  :) i never use any gui tools to edit that file
[06:11] <dennister> actually, i didn't :)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> i also like the --> auto services = willis Public homes
[06:11] <smurfslover> !mouse
[06:11] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:11] <Dr_willis> in there. that way it shows my Public share by default.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> default service = Publicfiles
[06:12] <geju> !alsa
[06:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:13] <dennister> Dr_willis: why is my smb.conf losing data I know i have typed in? this has happened at least twice now
[06:14] <Dr_willis> no idea
[06:14] <Dr_willis> save it.. backup the one ya did..
[06:14] <Dr_willis> then keep an eye on it
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i recall ages ago someone else talking about it doing that. but never seen it happen
[06:14] <jorge_> hi guys, again
[06:15] <eternal_p> good evening all, just thought I would give kubuntu 8 a whirl, i'm just wondering..how do I set resolution for my laptop, nvidia is installed properly however it does seem that I am not in my proper resolution
[06:15] <jorge_> does anybody knows why i get this error message
[06:15] <chinamann> anyone used to ssh connections?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> chinamann,  Huh?
[06:16] <jorge_> dependency is not satisfiable, wireshark-common
[06:16] <mhall53> sup
[06:16] <chinamann> Dr_wills, could u help me?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jorge_,  i would update/upgrade and try again...
[06:16] <chinamann> i dont get it done..
[06:16] <jorge_> i did it
[06:16] <Dr_willis> chinamann,  I am not sure what you are even talking about.
[06:16] <jorge_> there's no more updates
[06:16] <chinamann> ssh public key registratiuon at a v-server.
[06:17] <jorge_> 7.10 kubuntu
[06:17] <Dr_willis> chinamann,  thats beyone anything ive done.
[06:17] <eternal_p> KRandRTray seems to hang...?
[06:17] <chinamann> Dr. wills, pls look at this one.http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60680/
[06:18] <chinamann> anybody else used to ssh login?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> i use ssh to login to my remote machines all the time.
[06:18] <chinamann> automated or manualy?
[06:18] <eternal_p> actually, I lied...
[06:18] <Dr_willis> i just ssh to the box and enter my password. :)
[06:19] <eternal_p> I am running 1280x800, but all of the fonts just seem huge...
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i have et up passwordless logins ages ago.. but not recently
[06:19] <dennister> Dr_willis: ok, i saved it, cp'd it for safe-keeping, testparmed, and restarted samba server...still can't see it's own workgroup or it's own shares
[06:19] <chinamann> DR wills i just need pwd. less for backup reasons... with rsync
[06:22] <Dr_willis> chinamann,  you need to make a key with ssh_keygen i thought.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ssh-copy-id  willis@mythbox
[06:22] <Dr_willis> then worked for me
[06:22] <chinamann> DR wills,,,, yes, that all is done...
[06:23] <Dr_willis> it just worked fine for me here.. :) i now dont need to enter a password.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> that was on my TODO list.. thanks chinamann  :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> i did a ssh-keygen on both machines,
[06:24] <chinamann> why on both?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> then ssh-copy-id  willis@mythbox  on the 2nd machime and  ssh-copy-id  willis@black on the first
[06:24] <Dr_willis> so i can ssh either way
[06:24] <chinamann> i am just working on the client..
[06:24] <Dr_willis> now to set up the 3rd machine.
[06:24] <chinamann> remote = v-server in germany.. i am in china actualy.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Perhaps its copying the generated key from the other box? Not sure how its doing it.. just stating what i did.
[06:26] <chinamann> u do it local?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> generate key on local machine with ssh-keygen  ssh-copy-id  willis@REMOTEMACHINE
[06:26] <Dr_willis> worked for me,
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i did have to enter the password the first time.
[06:29] <chinamann> getting carzy here...
[06:30] <dennister> Dr_willis: did a search for smb.conf losing data...found something that says this would only happen if the OS crashed, and mine did earlier...entire system froze after a dvd-burning session went awry...k3b didn't even recognize the burner after the crash & reboot...had to purge and reinstall a few times before device was usable again
[06:32] <dennister> i think there's a bug with recent updates to cdrdao
[06:34] <dennister> as i'm still having probs...latest burn effort resulted in error flushing the cache
[06:35] <dennister> still don't know why camus isn't showing up as a device anymore in my modem/router software...only a mention or two in the firewalls section
[06:35] <dennister> is it possible it's now showing up as a dice there because I made it as a user of ondaatje?
[06:36] <dennister> *device, not dice
[06:38] <Dr_willis> dennister,  thats weird. I dont see how the os crashing would write to the smb.conffile.. and not other places..
[06:38] <dennister> yeah...tell me about it...a few very wierd things happening here
[06:39] <dennister> like a device disappearing in the router interface, but still showing up as a pc in the firewall setion
[06:40] <dennister> the smb.conf file may have been open during the crash, possible i hadn't saved changes yet
[06:40] <dennister> the crash definitely harmed my cdrdao badly
[06:42] <dennister> Jucato: would you know why a  device could be disappearing in the router interface's main lan section/summary, but still showing up as a pc in the firewall setion
[06:44] <dennister> at this rate i think i'm going to have to simply save some of my files, purge/backstep from that howto, and try again from a cleaner system
[06:44] <dennister> see if the pc shows up again in the router interface
[06:45] <dennister> but now it's almost 3 am here, and i need to rest the back...good night all
[06:45] <dennister> Dr_willis: thx for ur help; i've saved your smb.conf for future reference
[07:05] <greeg> all applications, except Dia can see my printer. why.
[07:06] <greeg> the only printer dia sees is lpr.  and when i attempt to print, Dia gives the error, lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[07:08] <chinamann> guys, i got it done... thanks at all of u for support.
[07:14] <greeg> Jesus Christ this linux shit!
[07:17] <Jucato> greeg: please watch your language
[07:24] <romunov> we are all dealing with shortcomings of some sort
[07:27] <dthacker> greeg: I can reproduce that bug.
[07:29] <BunnyRevolution> is there a way in kubuntu to "store" a password for re-entry
[07:29] <posingaspopular> BunnyRevolution: kwallet
[07:30] <BunnyRevolution> beyond kwallet.  something secure, offline, usb key
[07:31] <posingaspopular> in kubuntu...?
[07:31] <posingaspopular> well usb key is outside kubuntu
[07:32] <BunnyRevolution> yes, a software solution that allows pluggin in a usb key for the matching pair before password will work
[07:32] <BunnyRevolution> autoentry upon using usb key
[07:35] <BunnyRevolution> on another note, is there a set of apps that will run on a usb key similar to "portableapps.com" ?
[07:35] <BunnyRevolution> that are kde or linux based?
[07:42] <BunnyRevolution> similar to keepass, but fills in the password if key is available?
[08:10] <re-align> Grr! Anyone know how to get into a newly installed mysql server (installed using Adept). Thing's already running and isn't allowing me to follow the instructions from the docs.
[08:14] <jussio1> !lamp | re-align
[08:14] <ubotu> re-align: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:15] <chalnhubby> ns1
[08:20] <chalnhubby> we have a new HP7780 printer, my husband has Kubuntu Gutsy, i have Feisty,  my husband wants to be able to adjust whether it prints double or single side and whether portrait or landscape (direction) from his computer, easily. Can someone help me figure out how he can do this?
[08:20] <chalnhubby> good morning galorin
[08:20] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi all
[08:20] <chalnhubby> hi noaXess_kubuntu
[08:21] <chalnhubby> Happy Easter, He is risen!
[08:22] <noaXess_kubuntu> for testing i have installed ubuntu-desktop.. now i want remove it.. but if i remove only ubuntu-desktop all the gnome apps still installed
[08:22] <noaXess_kubuntu> chalnhubby: happy eastern to ;)
[08:23] <jussio1> !purekde | noaXess_kubuntu
[08:23] <ubotu> noaXess_kubuntu: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[08:23] <chalnhubby> noaXess_kubuntu, ty
[08:24] <re-align> Hmm. Looks like I'll have to reinstall...and maybe see if there's a more up to date version of that for Kubuntu...
[08:25] <chalnhubby> does anyone know where HP hides printer commands besides the CUPS window?
[08:27] <jussio1> chalnhubby: hang on, he is trying to adjust your printing, or his own?
[08:28] <chalnhubby> jussi01, he needs it worse than i do atm
[08:30] <chalnhubby> greetings
[08:31] <jussio1> chalnhubby: Im missing the point of what you are trying to do? am i correct in assuming he is printing a document to the printer networked on the other pc and needs to adjust the double sided/portrait landscape etc?
[08:31] <chalnhubby> jussio1, networked printer is SHARED
[08:32] <chalnhubby> he wants to print his things the way he wants them
[08:32] <jussio1> yes
[08:32] <chalnhubby> :)
[08:32] <jussio1> ok. all of these things should be able to be adjusted from the print window in whatever program he prints from.
[08:33] <jussio1> chalnhubby ie. in openoffice hit print (ctrl+p) then properties and it is there
[08:34] <chalnhubby> jussio1, my husband can't hear or speak, he can read and communicates with gestures etc. (he had a stroke) he insissts that there must be another way.
[08:36] <jussio1> chalnhubby: ok, I cannot help you there. I would say there are commands you could run, but they would be quite complicated.
[08:37] <chalnhubby> jussio1, he says he wants to control output from both computers from his
[08:37] <chalnhubby> he's got the KDE control  module
[08:37] <kmaxtor> hello
[08:37] <jussio1> ahhh, I understand now.
[08:37] <kmaxtor> my kubuntereros
[08:37] <chalnhubby> Happy Easter, He is risen!
[08:37] <chalnhubby> hi kmaxtor
[08:38] <kmaxtor> kubuntu 8 is available now to update may 7
[08:38] <kmaxtor> what reposirtories to added to update my 7.10 to 8
[08:38] <jussio1> kmaxtor: kubuntu 8.04 is not out yet
[08:38] <kmaxtor> please gave repositories to be added to apt
[08:39] <jussio1> kmaxtor: please go to #ubuntu+1 and read the topic when you enter
[08:39] <kmaxtor> why kdm is not activate
[08:39] <Apple_Cat> I'm having a problem with accessing tty in a different resolution, I'm aware that it a reported bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910, but none of the workarounds - seem to work for me
[08:39] <chalnhubby> jussio1, i sure appreciate your help, before he got sick he was a computer engineer
[08:39] <kmaxtor> is conflict to another os , ubuntu
[08:40] <kmaxtor> i am using different os, kubuntu and ubuntu
[08:40] <jussio1> chalnhubby: Im not sure of the bestway to do it, but as a workaround maybe VNC would be good?
[08:40] <chalnhubby> jussio1, couldn't we declare his computer the print manager ?
[08:41] <jussio1> kmaxtor: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same OS, just different desktop environments
[08:42] <jussio1> chalnhubby: I imagine so. However, I dont have the expertise to be able to help you with that, Im sorry.  :(
[08:43] <xaka> i have problem with Kubuntu 8.04. In installation process nobody ask me about keyboard layout. I can't input login and password :(
[08:43] <chalnhubby> jussio1, thank you very much, maybe somoene else will understand him better or know how to do what he wants later. you are really good to try, thank you :)
[08:44] <xaka> i try to install it in VirtualBox 1.56 (with last updates for Kubuntu 8.04 install)
[08:44] <jussio1> xaka: please use #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions :)
[08:44] <jussio1> chalnhubby: you are welcome :)
[08:49] <romunov> what app do you guys use to draw graphs?
[08:50] <Apple_Cat> inkscape and gimp
[08:50] <romunov> scientific graphs i mean
[08:51] <romunov> something akin to kyplot
[08:51] <kmaxtor> any repositories to be added to my apt?
[08:52] <Apple_Cat> romunov: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience , might help
[08:53] <jussio1> kmaxtor: please visit #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions
[08:53] <jussio1> !info kst | romunov
[08:53] <ubotu> romunov: kst (source: kst): A KDE application used for displaying scientific data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB
[08:54] <marjan> any1 knows how to use aMule
[08:54] <romunov> jussio1: thanks
[08:55] <kmaxtor> why it appear blank screen during booting my kubuntu
[08:55] <romunov> jussio1: i have found RLPlot... looks promising
[08:55] <jussio1> romunov: a note though, I have never used that program, so Im not sure of how good it is
[08:55] <kmaxtor> the logo of booting is disappear?
[08:55] <kmaxtor> to to splash the logo of my kubuntu
[08:56] <marjan> any1 knows how to use aMule
[08:56] <Apple_Cat> hm that reminds me, will removing the quiet line in menu.lst remove splash loading screen and show output ?
[08:57] <Apple_Cat> http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page, marjan
[08:58] <jussio1> Apple_Cat: IIRC that is correct
[08:59] <Apple_Cat> Great , thanks : )
[09:01] <Dekans> how do we proceed to connect to a wpa network with knetwork
[09:01] <Dekans> it only proposes WEP key ...
[09:02] <jussio1> !wpa | Dekans have a look at the link here:
[09:02] <ubotu> Dekans have a look at the link here:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:03] <Dekans> thanks
[09:04] <jussio1> :)
[09:11] <Dekans> I still don't find
[09:11] <Dekans> knetworkmanager doesn't propose me to connect to a wireless network
[09:11] <Dekans> and kde configuration doesn't manage wpa
[09:12] <jussio1> Dekans: did you follow the wpa tutorial? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[09:13] <kmaxtor> hello
[09:13] <kmaxtor> please help to enabled my nvidia
[09:13] <kmaxtor> nvidia drivers
[09:14] <kmaxtor> i can't enabled?
[09:14] <Apple_Cat> hrm i don't think the tty framebuffer problem can be fixed by the workaround stated at Bug #129910, anymore
[09:14] <jussio1> !nvidia | kmaxtor
[09:14] <ubotu> kmaxtor: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:14] <jussio1> Apple_Cat: thats sad. :(
[09:15] <Apple_Cat> yeah, stuck with low resolution in tty1-6
[09:16] <Apple_Cat> I think it's fixed in 8.04, but I've only found a few things on it
[09:23] <tysine> hello, could I please have some help getting wifi working?
[09:23] <Apple_Cat> !wifi
[09:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:24] <Apple_Cat> What problems are you having, tysine ?
[09:25] <tysine> i think it relates to my interfaces file not being right. but in short, i could never connect to the wifi router.
[09:25] <tysine> now, when i rightclick knetmanager, it doesnt even list any wifi a/p
[09:31] <Apple_Cat> can we add https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience link under !science ?
[09:32] <philipp_> how can i make konqueror to my prefered filemanager instead of dolphin?
[09:34] <vignesh> Anyone played Age of Empires 2 on kubuntu ?
[09:36] <Apple_Cat> rightclick on a folder -> click the spanner icon to the right of type Folder -> change order of Dolphin and Konqueror
[09:42] <Apple_Cat> did that work philipp_?
[09:42] <vignesh> that should work :-)
[09:43] <philipp_> apple_cat not realy.... when i use the shortcuts on kde he uses dolphin
[09:44] <tysine> any knetmanager geniuses here?
[09:47] <Apple_Cat> Maybe try making a new folder on your desktop, right click on the folder, click the little spanner icon ( it should be to the right of Type: and Folder)
[09:50] <tysine> most americans dont know what a spanner is, mate
[09:51] <tysine> ya have to say wrench, or else you get weird looks
[09:51] <kgoetz> wtf?
[09:51] <Apple_Cat> sorry bout that : )
[09:52] <kgoetz> how can you not know what a spanner is ;|
[09:52] <tysine> by being american
[09:52] <Apple_Cat> correction, click the little wrench icon
[09:52] <tysine> we can get away with this now, coz they are all asleep
[09:52] <tysine> :)
[09:52] <kgoetz> tysine: :D
[09:53] <kgoetz> and a happy abuse-the-yanks-while-they-sleep evening to you ;)
[09:53] <tysine> hehe
[09:53] <kgoetz> or as my mate puts it - happy zombie jesus day ;)
[10:01] <Apple_Cat> philipp_: get anywhere with that ?
[10:02] <sercik> alt+F2 doesn't work
[10:02] <sercik> after kde4 installed
[10:05] <Apple_Cat> #kubuntu-kde4
[10:24] <Rairor> Hi, can anyone help me with installing Compiz-Fusion? The guide i'm trying doesn't seem to work.
[10:33] <Apple_Cat> !compiz
[10:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:34] <Tm_T> Rairor: without mentioning what guide youre using and what "doesn't work" we cannot help you really, son
[10:35] <Rairor> that is the guide i'm using
[10:36] <Tm_T> and?
[10:38] <Rairor> when I run: sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  (etc etc) I get: E: Couldn't find package compiz
[10:40] <Rairor> it's a virtually new (yesterday) download and install of 7.10
[10:50] <brayner_> alguem do bazil
[10:50] <brayner_> alguem do brasil
[10:52] <stdin> !br | brayner_
[10:52] <ubotu> brayner_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[10:58] <Rairor> worked it out
[10:59] <Rairor> sources.list file was all commented :)
[11:01] <ktulu77> Hi
[11:01] <ktulu77> I've a problem with kubuntu 8.04 beta : http://h2acdc.free.fr/monospace.jpg
[11:11] <mjaime> hello
[11:12] <mjaime> i want to install a game with wine but it doesn't work
[11:12] <mjaime> where can i get help?
[11:16] <nonewmsgs> ktulu77 for issues with the beta you have to go to #kubuntu+1 (i think )
[11:25] <frederik> hi... how can i set my background to a solid color? can i set the taskbar to display the tasks in multiple lines, like in kde3+?
[11:26] <noober> Hi.. can anyone help me set up my wifi card on main pc to allow laptop to connect and share internet using ad-hoc mode?
[11:27] <bibek> my NIC interface id regularly changes
[11:27] <bibek> sometimes its eth0 sometimes its eth1
[11:27] <bibek> hows it happening?
[11:29] <bbt> is there a way to install an unsupported network printer if all i got is the windows driver ?
[11:30] <Dr_willis> bbt,  i imagine it depends on the printer.
[11:30] <Dr_willis> bbt,  you could print to pdf, then have windows print the pdf file. (icky, but doable i guess) not exactly what you want however.
[11:30] <bbt> tallygenicom 8108n
[11:31] <bbt> would cupswrapper do it ?
[11:31] <Dr_willis> check the cups.org site - they may have comercial drivers for it.
[11:43] <Rairor> Adept update crashes when I try apply updates. Any way to fix this?
[11:44] <smurfslover> use apt-get
[11:44] <smurfslover> sudo apt-get install update
[11:44] <smurfslover> sudo apt-get install upgrade to install all available updates
[11:44] <Rairor> thanks
[11:46] <Rairor> couldn't find package update or upgrade
[11:46] <jussio1> Rairor: whats the error message?
[11:47] <Rairor> E:couldn't find package upgrade.
[11:47] <Rairor> same for update, just with update not upgrade.
[11:47] <jussio1> Rairor: no, when adept crashes
[11:48]  * Rairor doesn't see one
[11:48] <Rairor> Just get a crash handler window
[11:48] <jussio1> Rairor: also, those commands should be: sudo apt get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <jussio1> no install
[11:49] <Rairor> "The application Adept Updater (adept_updater) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
[11:49] <jussio1> Rairor: ok. try the commands I just gave you
[11:50] <Rairor> i get a 404 error for everything it tries to get
[11:50] <Rairor> >.<
[11:51] <jussio1> Rairor: ouch. thats the issue
[11:51] <Rairor> how can I fix that?
[11:51] <jussio1> Rairor: try opening adept, manage repositories, and select a different server
[11:54] <Rairor> can't work out how
[11:55] <Rairor> I have adept open, nothing in any of the menu's about repositories
[11:55] <jussio1> yes, in the adept menu
[11:55] <jussio1> first menu on the left
[11:55] <Rairor> just a quit option there
[11:56] <jussio1> are you in adept or add/remove?
[11:56] <jussio1> adept is kmenu-System-adept
[11:58] <jussio1> Rairor: got it now?
[11:59] <Rairor> Think I managed to change it, but I have no net whatsoever of that computer now
[11:59] <jussio1> hmmm
[12:00] <jussio1> gah, I need to run. hope there is someone else around who can help.
[12:01] <StoneNewt> hey am I right in thinking that wit 8.04 I can have KDE4 & 3.5 envoromnets on the came machine??
[12:01] <jussio1> !khardy
[12:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[12:02] <jussio1> StoneNewt: Im just leaving, but yes
[12:02] <jussio1> StoneNewt: you can also hve it in gutsy, go check out the channel topic in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:02]  * jussio1 -> really gone 
[12:02] <StoneNewt> thanks
[12:23] <neopsyche> how do i create ad-hoc internet share?
[12:28] <ere4si> neopsyche: what is the os on the other comp?
[12:29] <galfrid> ok, I'm stuck
[12:30] <galfrid> I have a partial install of vmware workstation... it won't finish the install, won't uninstall it, and won't let me install anything else... would anyone be able to give me some advice?
[12:30] <kgoetz> galfrid: what error do youhave?
[12:31] <galfrid> eh, it's not really descriptive...
[12:31] <galfrid> basically it just tells me there's something wrong and doesn't exactly say what
[12:32] <galfrid> I know it gets stuck on finding a private subnet
[12:32] <kgoetz> galfrid: pastebin the erorr
[12:32] <kgoetz> r*error
[12:32] <galfrid> k, just a sec
[12:33] <Rairor> is there a way to stop my resolv.conf from changing?
[12:33] <Rairor> keeps throwing in my router's IP
[12:34] <pasquiet> bonjour
[12:35] <kgoetz> Rairor: stop using dhcp, and i think the dhclient hooks can be used to stop that happening too
[12:35] <galfrid> oh, ok... it worked this time  -not entirely sure what I did different;y
[12:35] <pasquiet> hello
[12:35] <pasquiet> i have a problem with internet
[12:36] <pasquiet> i'm connected (i'm speaking to you) but i can't connect with kopete or konqueror
[12:36] <pasquiet> and apt-get too
[12:37] <kgoetz> pasquiet: what error do you have?
[12:38] <pasquiet> kgoetz: with konquerror "
[12:38] <pasquiet> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.fr:
[12:38] <pasquiet> Could not connect to host http://www.google.fr/.
[12:39] <pasquiet> may be a problem with the firewall ?
[12:39] <kgoetz> pasquiet: could be. whats the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:39] <neopsyche> ere4si, XP
[12:40] <pasquiet> kgoetz:
[12:40] <pasquiet> nameserver 81.253.149.9
[12:40] <pasquiet> nameserver 80.10.246.132
[12:42] <kgoetz> pasquiet: does `ping -c 4 google.com.au` work?
[12:42] <kgoetz> pasquiet: and what about `ping -c 4 google.fr`
[12:42] <pasquiet> kgoetz:
[12:42] <pasquiet> nameserver 81.253.149.9
[12:42] <pasquiet> nameserver 80.10.246.132
[12:43] <pasquiet> 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
[12:43] <pasquiet> it works
[12:43] <kgoetz> pasquiet: both googles work?
[12:44] <pasquiet> kgoetz: yes both
[12:44] <kgoetz> pasquiet: do you have a gateway , or just a firewall on the local systeM?
[12:45] <pasquiet> kgoetz: what is a gateway ? i'm french and i don't understand everything sorry
[12:46] <kgoetz> thoreauputic: :O
[12:46] <kgoetz> he was here!
[12:46] <kgoetz> pasquiet: sorry. a computer that sits between you and the internet
[12:46] <Rairor> :O
[12:46] <pasquiet> kgoetz: like a proxy ?
[12:46] <kgoetz> pasquiet: yes, exactly :)
[12:47] <pasquiet> kgoetz: no i'm connected with a modem
[12:48] <pasquiet> kgoetz: i installed it with the package speedtouch.deb
[12:48] <kgoetz> pasquiet: so if i understand correctly, http traffic doesnt work, but other things do?
[12:49] <pasquiet> kgoetz: kopete work with http traffic ?
[12:50] <kgoetz> pasquiet: no, kopete is not http
[12:50] <pasquiet> kgoetz: ok, it's quiete strange
[12:52] <kgoetz> pasquiet: is this a new modem?
[12:53] <pasquiet> kgoetz: no i have it since 3 or 4 years
[12:53] <pasquiet> kgoetz: knetworkmanager says me that i'm disconnected
[12:54] <kgoetz> pasquiet: hm. network manager is a monster i've yet to really try out
[12:54] <pasquiet> kgoetz: there is a little red cross on the icone
[12:54] <Rairor> are the nameservers working?
[12:55] <pasquiet> kgoetz: i should quite knetworkmanager ?
[12:55] <kgoetz> Rairor: are you familar with nm?
[12:56] <Rairor> no, new to kubuntu. just that sounds similar to the problems I get when resolv.conf changes
[12:57] <kgoetz> pity, i was hoping you could help out :/
[12:57]  * kgoetz doesnt even have nm installed on systems here
[12:57] <Rairor> i keep having to manually edit openDNS's nameservers into it
[12:59] <pasquiet> kgoetz: i quited knetworkmanager and now konqueror works !
[13:00] <pasquiet> kgoetz: :)
[13:00] <kgoetz> pasquiet: :)
[13:01] <neopsyche> neopsyche: decides that linux is a mission to configure and generally wastes more time at this point.
[13:02]  * Rairor would rather take Linux than be forced onto Vista or buy a Mac
[13:03] <jayaeu> @Rairor: That´s right
[13:04] <jayaeu> I just bought a new FSC P5615 and the first thing it does is install Vista when turned on...
[13:04] <jayaeu> luckily, I had my Kubuntu CD handy and put that in the 2nd time it booted
[13:05] <pasquiet> kgoetz: thank you very much !
[13:05] <kgoetz> FSC P5615?
[13:05] <kgoetz> pasquiet: no worries :) well done with your solving it!
[13:05] <jayaeu> Fujitsu Siemens Computers
[13:05] <kgoetz> ah
[13:05] <jayaeu> P5615 is a midi-tower which is very silent and energy saving
[13:05] <kgoetz> the installs vista *grin*
[13:06] <jayaeu> it does come with an xp cd as well, but who needs it?
[13:06] <kgoetz> they burn really well :D
[13:06] <jayaeu> the only time I´ll need it is when I'll see that PC on ebay or something, so it's complete
[13:07]  * kgoetz goes to find photos
[13:07] <jayaeu> see -> sell
[13:08] <kgoetz> jayaeu: http://www.maincontent.net/cdburning/100_13152.png heres a 2k
[13:08] <jayaeu> nice
[13:08] <kgoetz> jayaeu: not sure, could be xp - http://www.maincontent.net/cdburning/Windows.png
[13:09] <kgoetz> and lastly, the burner: http://www.maincontent.net/cdburning/100_13052.png
[13:09] <jayaeu> hmm, must be either 2k or me
[13:10] <kgoetz> dont remember. i have all the before/after shots somewhere, but not online
[13:10] <pasquiet> kgoetz: it burns very well ? :)
[13:10] <Rairor> I have installed compiz fusion via the instructions here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion, when i type compiz --replace into a shell window I'm told Xgl isn't present, how can I fix that?
[13:10] <jayaeu> depends on what you're lighting  it with
[13:11] <kgoetz> pasquiet: very well :) dvds refuse to burn (amazingly enough), but all cds burn eventually. ubuntu cds took 4/5 tries, but they will cook. the windows ones burn first try
[13:11] <kgoetz> jayaeu: 7,000 volts
[13:12] <kgoetz> (DC)
[13:14] <kgoetz> Rairor: probably not enabled in xorg
[13:14] <leo_rockw> hey
[13:14] <leo_rockw> how do i run knemo after i install it?
[13:14] <kgoetz> i thought there was an ubuntu channel for xgl and stuff
[13:15] <kgoetz> Rairor: try #ubuntu-xgl
[13:17] <jayaeu> @leo_rock: is there a menu entry for it in the K-Menu to the bottom left of your screen?
[13:20] <leo_rockw> jayaeu: nope
[13:20] <jayaeu> strange... can you try opening a Terminal and entering "knemo" in there?
[13:22] <leo_rockw> jayaeu: tried that, doesn't work
[13:22] <Jucato> KNemo? It should be in System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Service Manager -> Startup Services
[13:22] <Jucato> iirc
[13:23] <leo_rockw> Jucato: yup, thank you
[13:24] <mohi> hi
[13:24] <mohi> would anyone here help me please? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6010/
[13:29] <pasquiet> kgoetz: good bye, have fun with burning CDs ;)
[13:30]  * Rairor is confused about the Xgl thing
[13:30] <kgoetz> pasquiet: later mate :)
[13:31] <Rairor> what do I have to enable/where?
[13:31] <Rairor> Xorg reminds me of scary experiences in Sabayon :P
[13:31] <kgoetz> hehe
[13:32] <kgoetz> Rairor: try the #ubuntu-xgl channel incase they can help
[13:32] <Rairor> ok, thanks
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[13:41] <mohi> hi BluesKaj
[13:53] <LimCore> when I use sudo, how to make the system to ask me for some speciall password? Not for root password, not user password, but a speciall user-sudo password?
[13:55] <silverblade> Hi guys, I'm a bit stuck. I've just installed Kubuntu onto some LVM volumes, ensuring that /boot is on a regular partition. It installed fine but when it boots it gets as far as identifying the HDDs and USB devices and then just pauses.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> LimCore, sudo asks for the same pw as your login , that should be sufficient.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> !sudo | LimCore
[13:55] <LimCore> BluesKaj: I want to be asked for other password
[13:55] <ubotu> LimCore: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:55] <LimCore> I know how it works now, I ask how to change that
[13:56] <philipp_> Wie kann man in Krita einen Strich machen oder radieren?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> !de | philipp_
[13:59] <ubotu> philipp_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:04] <silverblade> How long will KDE3 be provided with Kubuntu?
[14:08] <roey> hello
[14:09] <roey> I have an NVidia 9600 and the Kubuntu 8.04 beta; which driver should I install?
[14:10] <roey> hello jessica & Paul2
[14:11] <silverblade> roey, what choice do you have?
[14:12] <roey> I don't know?
[14:12] <roey> this new X won't even let me modprobe nvidia
[14:13] <silverblade> silly question but have you actually installed the driver?
[14:13] <silverblade> (ie, the nvidia one)
[14:14] <roey> (I don't know?)
[14:14] <roey> I've tried the nvidia_glx_new driver but I don't see any logo pop up when I start X
[14:14] <silverblade> hmm
[14:14] <silverblade> im not sure tbh as ve not used 8.04
[14:15] <roey> ok then
[14:18] <ubuntu> test
[14:20] <silverblade> hmm great, i enabled my 2nd monitor and now i cant change any res
[14:29] <silverblade> Argh this is stupid. I can't change resolutions and it won't let me have multi-monitor now...
[14:31]  * silverblade slaps Xorg.conf about a bit
[14:32] <ubuntu> hi
[14:33] <ubuntu> why is it so difficult to install things on kubuntu?
[14:33] <ubuntu> for example
[14:33] <ubuntu> i can't install skype
[14:33] <ubuntu> can anyone help me?
[14:36] <silverblade> WTH is wrong with this thing
[14:36] <silverblade> I have 2 monitors, both run at 1280x1024. yet Kubuntu's display configuration applet tells me this is the case but one of them is running at the wrong res and now it only lets me choose 640x480
[14:37] <LimCore> ubuntu: google ubuntu forum install skype
[14:37] <Paul2> ubuntu>adept manager and type skype>
[14:38] <LimCore> ubuntu: basicly, its just - download binary from skype.com (linux -> dynamic binary)  and then download few libraries and that all. -or- try downlaoding skype.com's .deb or even ubuntu package if provided, then dpkg -i file   or try alien file or sometihng
[14:38] <LimCore> Paul2: oh. oh that lol. Skype is now in repos?
[14:39] <Paul2> estobuntu.org have distro
[14:39] <Paul2> with skype
[14:40] <ubuntu> paul2
[14:40] <ubuntu> it's not showing up skype in adept
[14:40] <ubuntu> i tried that at firest
[14:40] <ubuntu> first
[14:41] <LimCore> ubuntu google ubuntu skype install   this is described on ubuntu forums
[14:49] <eljefe> I have some TrueType Fonts (TTF) that look fine with KFontView, but when I install them none of my KDE apps cn use them. They are just 'normal' fonts in all of my apps, when they're meant to be something crazy.  Why is this?
[14:49] <eljefe> my KDE apps can use them, but yhey're not special, i should say.
[14:51] <emilsedgh> odd, there shouldnt be a problem eljefe, how you installed them?
[14:52] <eljefe> i copied them to konqueror's fonts:/system/
[14:52] <Azzco> Isn't there a font installer in systemsettings/kcontrol?
[14:52] <Pendeta> After installing KDE on a Ubuntu server, the server will no longer boot normally (it can however be booted in recovery mode). Trying to boot normally results in a blank screen with the cursor blinking in the upper left hand corner. Is there any way to fix this?
[14:53] <eljefe> yes same thing i thought; or i can right-click and select Install.  They always show up in a newly-started app's font list, but either as boxes or as a boring font, not as the fun font I spent time digging up.
[14:54] <Azzco> Could it be the DM that is at fault Pendeta, can you switch to a virtual terminal when the screen is black? (ctrl+F1 or something)
[14:54] <eljefe> Pendeta: i've seen this in the past where it does boot, eventually, but there is no splash screen to let you know it is working.  Have you tried waiting a bit longer?
[14:55] <Pendeta> eljefe, I wait about 10 minutes once.
[14:55] <Pendeta> Azzco, I try that and report back.
[14:57] <Pendeta> Azzco, ctrl+F1 doesn't do anything.  What is DM?
[15:00] <Azzco> Pendeta: DM=Display Manager, normaly it's probably KDM in your case. I don't think I cvan help you but at least you know it's the boot proccess and not X that is at fault.
[15:01] <Pendeta> Azzco and eljefe, thanks. I'll try in the Ubuntu forum.
[15:02] <Azzco> Where can I find info about new features for the realese of kubuntu? It seems a bit cloudy in the anouncement compared to ubuntu..
[15:02] <eljefe> Pendeta: yes that seems to be a hang, the boot time in my story was pretty normal, just seemed long without and monitor response.  Is it a kernel version?  or just X isn't starting?  once it's 'booted' can you [ctrl][alt][f2] to get to a login prompt, and [ctrl][alt][f7] to get back to your hung X ?
[15:02] <eljefe> or is it not a hung X ?
[15:03] <Azzco> Oh it was just a little bump in my internet connection ^^
[15:05] <Pendeta> eljefe, x did't install properly. gewnview would not install (using aptitude) even after many tries.
[15:05] <silverblade> When I try to play a WAV File with Amarok, it hangs. This has been a problem on my Gentoo installation also, and has affected XMMS too
[15:08] <Azzco> silverblade: telling weather you use xine or gstreamer as engine might help a bit, you can also try to start amarok from a console and check for outputs when you open a wav
[15:08] <silverblade> i think i use xine
[15:13] <silverblade> Gah, issue number 3: With compiz enabled if i inadvertently do SHIFT+backspace, it kills X
[15:14] <silverblade> ...and now i cant get into administrator mode in System Settings
[15:15] <jussio1> silverblade: which version are you on?
[15:15] <silverblade> Gutsy
[15:15] <silverblade> this is also immediately after having done a full update to all packages
[15:15] <jussio1> silverblade: my apologies, which version of kde are you on?
[15:16] <silverblade> ive rebooted... and at present im trying to use Administrator mode in System Settings. It prompts for a password and then just goes back to saying I need to be admin.
[15:16] <silverblade> oh
[15:16] <silverblade> 3.5.8 apparently
[15:16] <jussio1> ok, great. have you the ccsm package installed?
[15:17] <silverblade> are you aiming to help me with the compiz issue?
[15:17] <silverblade> (sorry i have about 4 problems right now)
[15:18] <silverblade> i assume so, in which case yes i have ccsm
[15:18] <jussio1> yes, the shift+backspace.
[15:18] <silverblade> yeah
[15:18] <silverblade> i have it
[15:18] <jussio1> silverblade: also, you may be interested to check out #compiz-fusion for specialist help
[15:19] <silverblade> good point
[15:24] <silverblade> any ideas on my Administrator Mode not working?
[15:26] <silverblade> hmm ok i managed to fudge it so it works. but the display settings applet still tells me 640x480 is the only choice.
[15:41] <mkargar> what is best Audio Editor For KDE(only KDE(QT),no Gnome(GTK))?(i want it for cut and paste audio file!)
[15:41] <hydrogen> audacity uses qt.. right?
[15:42] <mkargar> no no!audacity using GTK!!
[15:43] <hydrogen> oh
[15:43] <Daisuke_Ido> mkargar, god forbit
[15:43] <Daisuke_Ido> forbid*
[15:43] <squid0> rosegarden uses qt, but I'm not sure it's what you're looking for. rg is more MIDI central
[15:43] <Daisuke_Ido> why is it so incredibly important that it not be a gtk app?  there is absolutely no reason to be so anti-gtk anymore, unless you've been listening to the trolls
[15:44] <maybeway36> gtk-qt-engine is nice if you have to use gtk
[15:44] <vince__> Hello,  I was wondering if someone could tell me how to setup a LAMP Development enviorment in Kubuntu, I already have the system installed but I don't want to have to install and configure the components myself
[15:44] <hydrogen> gtk is horrible
[15:44] <silverblade> Id go with Audacity.
[15:44] <hydrogen> No one should use gtk
[15:44] <maybeway36> I think you can just install ubuntu-server, vince__
[15:44] <hydrogen> unless they like to eat babies with hot sauce
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen, i use gtk, and it's not that horrible
[15:44] <silverblade> Audacity functions well.
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the trolling i'm talking about :P
[15:45] <Dragnslcr> vince__- you're going to have to do some configuring yourself. Apache doesn't do a whole lot with a default configuration
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be like me saying "no one should use kde unless you're prepared to adjust a couple hundred settings just to change your desktop background
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> "
[15:45] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: not quite
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> Couple hundred?
[15:46] <squid0> come now, let's not be drawn into flame-war
[15:46] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: have you ever seen the gtk file dialog??
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> C'mon, it's only something like 150
[15:46] <hydrogen> thats enough to kill a weak hearted man
[15:46] <hydrogen> any file dialog that needs two thirds of my screen is doing something wrong
[15:46] <vince__> Anyone?
[15:46] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you running at, 640x480?
[15:47] <maybeway36> vince__ install ubuntu-server
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> vince__- you can install Apache, PHP, and a database through Adept
[15:47] <vince__> Maybeway36 Thanks
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> I don't think ubuntu-server is what you'd want
[15:47] <vince__> Dragnslcr: I know that but they arn't configured to work with each other that way.
[15:48] <Dragnslcr> Like I said, you'll have to configure something
[15:48] <Dragnslcr> Apache doesn't really do anything without configuration
[15:48] <Dragnslcr> PHP tends to have some fairly stupid default settings, too
[15:48] <mkargar> Audacity is best,but i want a Audio Editor Specially for KDE that writting by QT(or Java!)
[15:49] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: no, 1400x900.. thats why it's such a problem..
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> mkargar, if audacity is best, stop being a twit and use it.
[15:49] <squid0> mkargar, google is your friend
[15:49] <Dragnslcr> And to be honest, you probably shouldn't be running a web server if you don't know how to configure it properly
[15:49] <hydrogen> I seem to remember a kaudiocreator
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> and that you would prefer JAVA over gtk...  that boggles the mind
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> kaudiocreator is for ripping cds
[15:49] <vince__> Dragnslcr: With that logic no one would ever learn.  Besides this isn't for a public server, It's for local development
[15:50] <hydrogen> well, thats well named!
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> very, like a lot of kde's software
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> (and software in general)
[15:50] <hydrogen> well
[15:50] <hydrogen> most software doesn't take one name
[15:50] <hydrogen> and do an entirely different thing
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> klibido - that's most obviously a usenet client
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> this is true
[15:51] <Daisuke_Ido> most are just obscure names, not deliberately misleading
[15:51] <squid0> krandr
[15:51] <Dragnslcr> vince__- okay, I'll amend my statement. You shouldn't be running a web server if you aren't willing to spend time learning how to configure it properly
[15:52] <Dragnslcr> Though I don't remember needing to do much configuration when I installed everything, other than vhosts for Apache and fixing some PHP settings
[15:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i'm one of the strange ones though, i don't care if it's gtk or qt as long as it gets the job done
[15:54] <Dragnslcr> No, that makes you one of the normal ones
[15:54] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I've ever seen anyone so violently opposed to GTK
[15:54] <vince__> Dragnslcr: I would agree.. If I were trying to run a public server
[15:58] <vince__> i'm not.  Therefore I don't understand why someone dosen't just build a simple LAMP type install that would put in a basic LAMP that dosen't accept outside connections.  Such things exist for windows.  Perhaps i'll build a setup and make it avalible.  Thanks for your help though :-)
[15:58] <mkargar> I very very searched in Google!but...!
[15:59] <Daisuke_Ido> but! you'll probably end up using audacity!  because as you yourself said, it's best!
[15:59] <Dragnslcr> Hm, is there no PDF editor kicking around anywhere?
[16:00] <squid0> would be nice
[16:00] <mkargar> Yes,i should use the audacity!!
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> Dragnslcr: no, I don't think there is. It's something I've thought of writing myself but the PDF spec is *very* complicated.
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> just creating a reader must be flippin' difficult
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> though OO.org will export to PDF.
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> All I'm really interested in is placing text fields
[16:02] <Dragnslcr> Filling out forms and stuff
[16:02] <squid0> what about scribus?
[16:02] <squid0> not sure if it can write to pdf
[16:06] <kanadianP> im having a problem with adept thinking there are 2 instances, i tried the adept fix suggest by ubotu and it doesn't work
[16:06] <kanadianP> says "
[16:06] <kanadianP> Cannot stat /car/lib/dpkg/lock: No such file or directory
[16:06] <kanadianP> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> var
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> not car
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[16:07] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> :)
[16:07] <kanadianP> :D
[16:08] <kanadianP> paul@paul-laptop:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:08] <kanadianP>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[16:08] <kanadianP> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5757 F.... adept_updater
[16:08] <kanadianP> Kill process 5757 ? (y/N) y
[16:08] <kanadianP> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[16:10] <kanadianP> i've been having nothing but trouble with adept manager
[16:14] <kanadianP> anywyas, I found the answer if anyone cares
[16:15] <kanadianP> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/13925
[16:15] <kanadianP> post by darkmdbeener
[16:25] <mohi> would someone PLEASE help me? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6020/
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> that is a packaging bug..... ask in #ubuntu-motu
[16:29] <arunkale> hello all
[16:31] <arunkale> anyone here tried out firefox 3 beta 4 on kubuntu yet?
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> nope
[16:34] <bnex10> ummm
[16:34] <bnex10> is there a channel for konversation?
[16:35] <martijn81> yup #konversation
[16:35] <MrUnagi> hello nosrednaekim
[16:35] <MrUnagi> how have you been
[16:35] <martijn81> do a /list otherwise
[16:36] <MrUnagi> do you know anything about tv tuners on kubuntu?
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> i'm doing good
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[16:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:40] <ramzay> ру
[16:40] <ramzay> бот дай ру канал
[16:40] <ramzay> блин
[16:41] <ramzay> привет
[16:41] <ramzay> у вас бот не работает сцуко = )
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> !ru
[16:41] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:48] <matt1728> is anyone having a problem with headphones on kubuntu?
[16:48] <matt1728> and knows how to fix it ?
[16:58] <martijn81> matt1728: what is your problem?
[16:59] <matt1728> when i plug in my headphones the speakers dont turn off
[16:59] <matt1728> any ideas?
[17:00] <fdoving> i belive some sound-drivers have that issue. you might find some usefull info in the forums or the wiki.
[17:00] <martijn81> matt1728: that is expected behaviour, i also have that
[17:00] <matt1728> lol
[17:01] <matt1728> i fixed it for a while and then the same exact thing i did doesnt work
[17:01] <matt1728> :?
[17:01] <matt1728> i had it working till i rebooted
[17:02] <maxym> !fr
[17:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:10] <bnex10> man kde4 looks great
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> bnex10: I know,, huh? I love oxygen
[17:14] <bnex10> well i hope it can run on this pc
[17:14] <bnex10> sysinfo
[17:15] <bnex10> Sysinfo for 'brant-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 548 MHz (1097 bogomips), , RAM: 120/122MB, 112 proc's, 2.19d up
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> hey... give it a shot... it should use about the same amount as kde3
[17:16] <bnex10> nah i'll use the upgrade thing
[17:16] <bnex10> when it comes out
[17:16] <bnex10> takes too long to install/remove packages
[17:20] <silverblade> bnex10, heh, you've never used Gentoo then? :p
[17:20] <silverblade> dedicate 1 weekend to a kde upgrade
[17:20] <bnex10> it's sunday
[17:21] <silverblade> yes i mean in Gentoo you'd have to dedicate a whole w/e
[17:21] <silverblade> i wasnt telling you to :p
[17:23] <manol> hello, I want to install theme-manager for KDE 3.5 in Kubuntu
[17:24] <jhutchins> manol: Ok.
[17:25] <manol> what's the name of the package
[17:32] <ubuntu> hi
[17:33] <ubuntu> aplication
[17:33] <ubuntu> the
[17:33] <ubuntu> kubuntu pls
[17:39] <maxym> !fr
[17:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:42] <gibb_> hola
[18:04] <filicidae> hi all
[18:04] <filicidae> i've just download new version of kubuntu
[18:05] <filicidae> and i have a problem
[18:05] <filicidae> it should includes KDE4
[18:05] <filicidae> but kded -version says its 3.5.9
[18:06] <filicidae> but its not a big issue
[18:06] <filicidae> KDE 3.5 is still fine for me
[18:06] <filicidae> but..
[18:06] <filicidae> when i wanted to install yakuake
[18:06] <filicidae> adept prompt a message
[18:07] <pinepain> AFAIK, u need to add repository and download kde4
[18:07] <filicidae> hmm
[18:07] <smurfslover> filicidae: see www.kubuntu.org
[18:08] <filicidae> weird as i dwonloaded beat 8.04 ;)
[18:08] <filicidae> s**t *downloaded *beta
[18:08] <smurfslover> 8.04 has 2 versions
[18:08] <smurfslover> 8.04 beta with kde3
[18:09] <smurfslover> and kubuntu-kde4 alpha with kde 4.0.2
[18:09] <filicidae> hehe
[18:09] <filicidae> ok
[18:09] <filicidae> now i undesrstand
[18:09] <filicidae> my bad
[18:09] <filicidae> ;)
[18:09] <filicidae> one more question
[18:09] <scott_> Hi... I appreciate the help folks have given me setting up kubuntu.  Limewire/frostwire and Kompozer are still giving me fits to install.
[18:09] <smurfslover> frostwire works for me
[18:09] <filicidae> i've heard that on KDE4 i wont be able to run some apps from KDE 3.x
[18:10] <filicidae> ?
[18:10] <smurfslover> be sure you have jave runtime environment for frostwire
[18:10] <scott_> I d/l and uncompressed frostwire, but it doesn't appear in the repository for kubuntu
[18:10] <smurfslover> you have the .deb package?
[18:11] <scott_> yep...and I am installing jave runtime right now
[18:11] <scott_> java
[18:11] <filicidae> heh.. anyway - thx for an answer
[18:11] <filicidae> ;)
[18:11] <scott_> My goal today:  frostwire, a WYSIWYG html program, and flash
[18:12] <smurfslover> have to run
[18:12] <smurfslover> bbl
[18:19] <czarny> hej
[18:19] <czarny> hello
[18:19] <czarny> My name is Peter.
[18:22] <john> hey im trying to update ny tomtom satnav in ubuntu, can anyone help? its detected as a removable device, I can see the map files, can I just copy over them with new ones?
[18:36] <filicidae> i have an issue with wifi - it's visible in KDE Control Module (wlan 0) but I cannot enable it... :/ (Dell Inspiron E1505/6400)
[18:37] <filicidae> (my FuNction key+WiFi on laptop doesn't work either)
[18:37] <filicidae> any ideas?
[18:43] <Xbehave> how do i find out what program is accessing a file
[18:52] <paule118> hi
[18:53] <rcg1984> hello all, how can I get a list of mounted partitions and unmount a specific partition?
[18:53] <flipstar> Xbehave: http://guichaz.free.fr/misc/#iotop
[18:54] <Xbehave> thx
[18:54] <paule118> >(
[18:55] <paule118> 19:29:16 online
[18:55] <ubuntu> hi. My wifi is not working. I look into restricted drivers and it says this about my wifi: "Enable the Firmware? Firmware for Broadcom 43xx chipset family. While the bcm43xx driver is free, it relies on proprietary firmware. Without that you will not be able to use your wireless card." I'm just wondering is it updating Kubuntu's device driver or updating wifi's hardware driver (like bios update) ?
[18:58] <Xbehave> it installs the closed source firmware drivers, which arnt shiped with the CD
[18:58] <pinepain> leave
[18:58] <paule118> http://freenode.net
[19:00] <ubuntu> Xbehave: After frimware, could there be any problem on windows using this card ?
[19:02] <paule118> http://freenode.net
[19:02] <Xbehave> No, its only updating the firmware drivers (i think, as all the files are on you linux partition, it shouldnt affect the windows install)
[19:02] <caris_mere> I installed kde4, and then uninstalled it today, but now I can't get back into kubuntu...I think because I chose the kde4 session manager and then deleted kde4
[19:03] <caris_mere> How can I change it back so I can use kde3_
[19:17] <paule118> xxx
[19:23] <paule118> http://freenode.net
[19:26] <_Angelus_> guys does the alternet cdrom has that installer that installs from winxp ?
[19:26] <_Angelus_> or thats only on the desktop version?
[19:28] <sercik> hi! happy easter
[19:30] <bnex10> this channel is getting annoying to idle in.......
[19:30] <bnex10> tooo many join/parts.
[19:30] <bnex10> bye
[19:43] <romunov> how do i check my ips?
[19:44] <jussio1> romunov: ifconfog
[19:44] <jussio1> ifconfig evev
[19:44] <jussio1> argh
[19:45] <romunov> would think that ipconfig would be more apt... :)
[19:45] <jussio1> no
[19:45] <jussio1> ifconfig
[19:46] <romunov> everytime i update port forwarding, the damn thing disconnects
[19:47] <jussio1> yeah itll do tat
[19:47] <nuha> hola
[19:50] <silverblade> xorg seems to be using a fair bit of CPU and most of it is in Software Interrupts... why is this
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: are you running compiz?
[19:50] <silverblade> nosrednaekim, i tried to install it but it crashed
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> its probably application refreshing themselves
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: you didn't load XGL did you?
[19:51] <silverblade> er, probably not
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> ok
[19:51] <silverblade> im using nvidia drivers...
[19:51] <silverblade> if thats any help
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> no..... hoe much CPU?
[19:51] <silverblade> 45%
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> and you have what processor? type in /sysinfo to show me...
[19:52] <sigma_1234> whats the best linux tv capture card?
[19:52] <silverblade> Athlon XP 2000+
[19:52] <silverblade> I dont have sysinfo installed
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | sigma_1234
[19:53] <ubotu> sigma_1234: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:54] <jussio1> !tv | sigma_1234
[19:54] <ubotu> sigma_1234: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[19:54] <Jared555> hello, is it possible to make kubuntu display on all video outputs (primarily vga/tv) without installing the nvidia/ati drivers?
[19:54] <Jared555> it shows up on the TV screen up to the point that X kicks on
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> !xinerama
[19:55] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[19:55] <Jared555> thanks
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> Jared555: you should be able to do it without the proprietary drivers...
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[19:56] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> ^^might be more useful
[19:58] <silverblade> Everything seems really unresponsive :/
[19:58] <silverblade> 70% SI in top now
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: run "sudo apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[19:58] <silverblade> copying files from a usb disk seems to antagonize it
[19:58] <silverblade> i would if this terminal window would respond
[19:59] <sigma_1234> !info xmame
[19:59] <ubotu> Package xmame does not exist in gutsy
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: go to ctrl+alt+f2
[19:59] <silverblade> nosrednaekim, its not installed.
[20:00] <silverblade> (got there in the end)
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> wow... wierd. sound like its eating memory too
[20:01] <silverblade> hmm?
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> check what your memory usage is.... "free -m"
[20:01] <silverblade> used:1.6gb
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> is that the second line?
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> the first line doesn't count
[20:02] <silverblade> hmm?
[20:02] <silverblade> this is "mem"
[20:02] <silverblade> total: 2027, used: 1632, free: 395
[20:03] <silverblade> cached is 1286 tho
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> thats fine then...
[20:04] <silverblade> i have been doing a lot of file copying as mentioned
[20:04] <drhawk> when i install kubuntu 8.04 with kde4 and do a
[20:04] <drhawk> apt-get upgrade
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> if you restart X, does the CPU usage go back down, then come back up?
[20:04] <drhawk> my wlan is not working anymore
[20:04] <silverblade> not tried that yet
[20:04] <drhawk> knetwork manager throws an exeception and uses 100% cpu
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> drhawk: hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[20:07] <drhawk> k thx
[20:09] <duval10> bonsoir
[20:09] <duval10> qq pour m'aider à confifurer ma carte graphique
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[20:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:10] <jussio1> !fr | duval10
[20:10] <ubotu> duval10: please see above
[20:10] <jussio1> bah
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> XD
[20:10] <prince_jammys> fr!
[20:24] <silverblade> ok ive done a reboot
[20:24] <silverblade> still being pestered by high % of SI in top
[20:28] <Artimus> Are the .deb files for the nvidia or ATI restricted drivers on the Kubuntu CD's (as in, could someone without an internet connection install them from the CD with the restricted driver manager)?
[20:29] <emilsedgh> no
[20:29] <icewaterman> anyone using links2=
[20:29] <emilsedgh> they are non-free Artimus
[20:30] <silverblade> ...and i also find performance sluggish without compiz on my laptop.
[20:30] <icewaterman> when i try to copy links to clipboard links2 doesnt seem to copy them to the clipboard
[20:30] <emilsedgh> Artimus: so, the answer is a big NO
[20:31] <Artimus> emilsedgh: I know, and that's why the restricted manager is there (even if they legally could be enabled by default, they shouldn't be).  It's just kind of painful for people on dialup to download them every install.
[20:32] <emilsedgh> Artimus: im on dialup and my modem needs restricted drivers and its a pain for me to make it work without a connection (i have to download it using others computers), but i dont want anything non-free on the disc
[20:33] <Artimus> emilsedgh: I don't see the problem with including them on the disk.  They wouldn't be installed as part of core.  Right now, the CDRom is added as an apt-get mirror.  This way, the restricted manager could fetch them from the CD.
[20:34] <dthacker> what's the command to restart networking from the command line?
[20:34] <emilsedgh> Artimus: there are two problems.first is that they couldnt be supported by Ubuntu (and i dont care about this).but main problem (at least from my point of view) is that they are non-free.the official stuff from FOSS should NEVER contain ANYTHING non-free
[20:36] <emilsedgh> Artimus: the hardware vendors are getting better and better.ATI opened up their specs and their 100% Free/Full Functional drivers are coming.NVIDIA will follow them i think (maybe not in near soon, but in a few years...)
[20:36] <Artimus> emilsedgh: I fail to see the difference between "Program automatically pops up saying install this evil driver for better support, download from Ubuntu Servers" and "Program automatically pops up saying install this evil driver for better support, please insert CD"
[20:36] <emilsedgh> also there is a project to create a fully functional driver for nvidia, but i dont know their status
[20:37] <emilsedgh> Artimus: the differrence is that youre distrubuting a non-free thing...
[20:37] <Artimus> They're distributing it regardless.
[20:37] <silverblade> ok this is getting stupid now... i drag a window onto my other monitor and it disappears
[20:37] <emilsedgh> also, people with dialup are not in a high priority
[20:38] <Artimus> What's the difference between putting it on a CD and putting it on your own servers?  Either way, you're offering it to them with the restricted manager
[20:38] <andyt_> any pointers on manual install of sun-java5-jdk?  essentially there's a bug in hardy (and gutsy) java installation that makes it unusable for development.
[20:40] <emilsedgh> Artimus: well, i dindnt understand it too and it was confusing for me, but i dont know what happenned that i changed my mind ;)
[20:40] <Markon> hi all!
[20:40] <emilsedgh> Artimus: but now if a distro gives something non-free, i want it go to hell :D
[20:41] <Artimus> emilsedgh: closed source drivers suck.  But they're not going away anytime soon.  It seems stupid to download them on every box when they're basically there anyway.  Restricted Manager already encourages the install.  That's already against your non-free policy.  Does it really hurt you to have an unused package on a CD?
[20:41] <Markon> Can you tell me why when I try to ping my router it doesn't give me any signals?
[20:42] <Markon> When I 'm on the live-cd and I try to ping the router it works, but when I ping it by kubuntu installed on the machine it doesn't work :/
[20:43] <Markon> (I've set the internet configuration by pppoeconf)
[20:43] <emilsedgh> Artimus: i doubt if there is an unused package on the disc...btw its important for me that my distro is a FOSS enthusiast or no
[20:43] <martijn81> Markon: do you have to dail-in?
[20:44] <martijn81> otherwise, do a sudo  dhclient
[20:44] <Artimus> emilsedgh: So you're saying the difference between FOSS enthusiast and evil is "Do I have  to download it automagically from the internet instead of automagically from a cd"?
[20:45] <emilsedgh> Artimus: no
[20:45] <martijn81> !offtopic
[20:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[20:45] <emilsedgh> Artimus: but i simply dont like my distro to contain something non-free.
[20:46] <ping_luce> hi. how can i know the available space in dev/hdd ??
[20:47] <gokulo> df -h
[20:47] <andyt_> emilsedgh - check out gobuntu
[20:47] <Artimus> ping_luce: at a terminal, df -h will work.  Otherwise, right click on the partition and hit properties.
[20:47] <sayers> Why is doplhin the new defualt filemanager?
[20:48] <Markon> sorry
[20:48] <ping_luce> thnks all
[20:48] <emilsedgh> i know, gobuntu and and other one which is a GNU Project (gnewsys was its name i think).i have no problem with ubuntu now, but i never accept nvidia drivers on it
[20:48] <Markon> martijn81: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60786/
[20:48] <Artimus> sayers: Simplicity, probably.  Konqueror is there as a webbrowser now.
[20:48] <martijn81> emilsedgh: then you' re better off with sidux than kubuntu
[20:48] <Markon> I've done dhclient, and it gave it to me.
[20:48] <Artimus> sayers: They share code, you can still just as easily use Konqueror for file browsing, that's not going away
[20:49] <sayers> Artimus: Well is doplhin have any nice new features?
[20:49] <emilsedgh> maybe, all i want is a working kde :P
[20:49] <Artimus> sayers: Very easy to get to split view, and there's a view similar to Mac OSX Finder.
[20:49] <martijn81> emilsedgh: it comes with debian sid@ rolling release with kde 3.5.9
[20:49] <Artimus> sayers: "Less features" is why it was selected.  For most people, Konqueror was overkill and slightly intimidating at times
[20:49] <martijn81> if you update...
[20:49] <sayers> Artimus: Is it still better than nautilus when it comes to advanced features?
[20:50] <emilsedgh> martijn81: so i have to give it a try ;)
[20:50] <sayers> So is 90% of kde apps then...
[20:50] <martijn81> i would ;)
[20:50] <martijn81> i use it myself
[20:50] <Artimus> sayers: Wouldn't know.  I'm not a GNOME type of person.
[20:50] <emilsedgh> sayers: if you want advanced features, then konqueror is there for you.but what do you mean by advanced features?
[20:50] <sayers> emilsedgh: I'm not sure :)
[20:50] <Artimus> sayers: Konqueror is going to be around and it will be able to do the same file browsing things for a long time
[20:50] <emilsedgh> sayers: it supports multiple protocols (fish, ftp,etc) and has splitting feature
[20:50] <Artimus> sayers: It uses a Dolphin KPart, meaning any changes to Dolphin will work in the Konqueror UI
[20:50] <silverblade> ok this is seriously messed up now... the entire GUI has gone really laggy. it seems a bit more responsive if i use compiz+emerald but i dont see WHY?
[20:51] <martijn81> Markon: page does not load here
[20:51] <emilsedgh> Artimus: thats in 4, in 3 it uses differrent codebase than konqueror i think
[20:51] <sayers> Split view, easy ssh copy , organizng by type
[20:51] <emilsedgh> sayers: yes it does all of them i think
[20:52] <Artimus> emilsedgh: Sayers said dolphin, not d3lphin
[20:52] <emilsedgh> oh, sorry then :)
[20:52] <Artimus> emilsedgh: Still, probably was referring to KDE3's
[20:53] <emilsedgh> dolphin in 4 is a differrent thing.it really rocks, i miss some of its features on konqueror
[20:53]  * martijn81 is eagerly waiting on composite effects in kde4
[20:54] <martijn81> yeah the new kde4 dolphin is nice, but the kde3 version sucks though
[20:54] <prince_jammys> i just use konq
[20:54] <silverblade> nosrednaekim, ok i have Xgl installed now but now that's taking up a lot of CPU time
[20:54] <martijn81> me too, dolphin does not come with sidux
[20:55]  * emilsedgh too
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: XGL isn't going to help anything...
[20:59] <Markon> martijn81:  however I've solved that problem using firestarter. It seems it's a problem of iptables... bah..:/
[20:59] <Markon> thank you ;)
[20:59] <Markon> bye!
[20:59] <martijn81> Markon: iptables should be disabled by default
[21:08] <Kubuntu-user> Hi all
[21:08] <martijn81> hi Kubuntu-user
[21:08] <jussio1> martijn81: iptables is enabled by default
[21:08] <jussio1> !firewall
[21:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:09] <martijn81> jussio1: ok, but the rules are empty right?
[21:10] <jussio1> martijn81: IIRC, it allows things to listen on any port, but all ports start closed otherwise
[21:10] <silverblade> nosrednaekim, ok, xgl now removed... im getting 95% cpu usage by xorg now
[21:10] <Kubuntu-user> My kubuntu is freezing when i try to install it.amount of percentage when it is freezin is about15%this happends when i'm using ver6.10
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: that is so weird..... try moving your .kde to a temporary directory...
[21:11] <Kubuntu-user> What i should do?
[21:11] <jussio1> Kubuntu-user: did you manage to grab a copy of 7.10?
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu-user: I think support for edgy is pretty much up.
[21:13] <martijn81> Kubuntu-user: best is to download 7.10
[21:13] <silverblade> nosrednaekim, done...  problem still there :/
[21:13] <Kubuntu-user> Sorry i mean 7.10
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: you need to log back out...
[21:14] <silverblade> i logged out, moved the directory, then logged back in
[21:14] <silverblade> (ie i got back to the login screen then did ctrl+alt+f1 and logged in there)
[21:20] <Kubuntu-user> Yesterday i was try to install7.04,the problem is that when i've 95%of installation progress my kubuntu was dawn
[21:22] <Kubuntu-user> Today i was try to install once more kubuntu v.7.10 and it was no effect.15%and progress bar stops
[21:23] <jussio1> !repeat
[21:23] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:24] <benbread> Kubuntu-user: Using apt-get?
[21:24] <Kubuntu-user> No.live session creator
[21:25] <swatto> Anyone know what program I can use to create flash things in kubuntu?
[21:27] <benbread> swatto: The only way i know is to use WINE to run macromedia/adobe flash for windows
[21:28] <jussio1> ming comes to mind, but Im not sure if thats what you are after
[21:29] <benbread> swatto: or for browser based maybe use http://osflash.org/ajaxanimator
[21:29] <paulo> boa noite pessoal..
[21:29] <paulo> sou novo por aqui..
[21:29] <LjL-Temp> !br
[21:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[21:29] <paulo> sou novo nomundo liux..
[21:30] <paulo> linux
[21:30] <paulo> mais estou adorando o ubuntu
[21:30] <Kubuntu-user> I can give more details.is anyone who will help me?
[21:30] <K`zan> Hi Folks, looks like k3b or some component thereof is hosed big time.  Been fighting with this for two days now.  Found the drive was ok using nero under wincrap (no problems).  Is there some other alternative to burn DVDs under linux?  Tarring up what I want and sending it to a wincrap drive to burn with nero is kind of embarrasing :-).  TIA!
[21:31] <paulo> estou com problemas para fazer meu compiz-fusion funcionar
[21:31] <paulo> alguem pode me ajudar
[21:31] <paulo> #kubuntu-br
[21:32] <swatto> thanks benbread :)
[21:33] <paulo> tem algum canal em portuguese
[21:34] <paulo> #ubuntu-br
[21:35] <Kubuntu-user> Is somewhere polish irc kubuntu channel?
[21:35] <jussio1> !pl | Kubuntu-user
[21:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu-user: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:37] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to download the sources of a package and create exactly the same .deb package locally?
[21:37] <LjL-Temp> vlt: yup. sudo apt-get source packagename
[21:37] <LjL-Temp> sudo apt-get --build source packagename downloads & builds it
[21:39] <vlt> LjL-Temp: And downloading, modifying and then building is also possible?
[21:39] <LjL-Temp> vlt: yes, although i never remember the command to build :) i think dpkg-buildpackage
[21:41] <vlt> LjL-Temp: Ok, I'll try. Thank you.
[21:41] <vlt> LjL-Temp: Aah, last question: How can I persuade apt to install _my_ deb instead of the one from the official repo?
[21:42] <wayneward> dpkg -i package name
[21:42] <vlt> Thanks
[21:42] <LjL-Temp> vlt: that's complicated :| you can bump the version number, but then packages from the Security repository override even that
[21:42] <LjL-Temp> !pinning
[21:42] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[21:42] <LjL-Temp> this page, also, is quite outdated an inaccurate
[21:43] <wayneward> what version of konact is available for kde 4? is it still kontact 3.5.9?
[21:44] <jco> hi, does anyone here uses KDE to Ipaq (Windows Mobile) syncronization? Is it reliable?
[21:44] <jussio1> wayneward: yes I beleive so. also kde 4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[21:44] <wayneward> ok cheers  idont want support it was a simple question
[21:44] <LjL-Temp> jco: always gave problems to me :| i guess once you manage to make it work... well, it will work one time, then unless you disconnect the ipaq in the proper order, you have to reboot :D
[21:45] <wayneward> ill go to debain irc instead cant be assed with humour
[21:45] <wayneward> exit
[21:46] <jco> LjL-Temp: but is the software there? is it maintained? I'm having big problems in another distro and have to do everything on my own... :(
[21:46] <LjL-Temp> jco: the software is in the official repositories, but it's not any more mantained than in other distributions
[21:48] <jco> LjL-Temp: uhm... I'll give it a try then, otherwise will have to swap Guest/Host with Windows/Linux cause that sync is vital for my work :(((
[21:52] <Respatix_> has anyone here ever installed or used ntfs-3g on kubuntu?
[21:52] <jussio1> yes
[21:52] <Roey> hello... question about kubuntu 8.04 and the NVidia Geforce 9600..  Does it work?  At all?  I tried installing NVidia's beta drivers, but the installer reports errors with finding/removing GLX libs
[21:53] <bnex10> hey
[21:53] <jussio1> Roey: #ubuntu+1 for hardy :)
[21:53] <Roey> also, for some reason, the scroll wheel evokes a horizontal scroll isntead of a vertical one.
[21:53] <Roey> jussio1:  ah, that's it, thanks :)
[21:53] <jussio1> :)
[21:53] <bnex10> i need mp3 codec for the xine engine
[21:54] <jussio1> bnex10: kubuntu-restricted-extras should get you everything you need
[21:54] <bnex10> in what package manager?
[21:54] <bnex10> adept?
[21:54] <jussio1> yes
[21:54] <bnex10> ok.... great
[21:55] <jussio1> bnex10: or: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:55] <bnex10> will that install a bunch of packages
[21:55] <bnex10> ?
[21:55] <Respatix_> anyone know how to install ntfs-3g on kubuntu, I have a knew 1tb ext drive and its formatted ntfs and i cant write to it
[21:56] <ubuntu> How can I add boot loader to my pc ?
[21:56] <jussio1> bnex10: yes
[21:56] <jussio1> !grub | ubuntu
[21:56] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:56] <bnex10> approx how many?
[21:57] <jussio1> !ntfs-3g | Respatix_
[21:57] <jussio1> bnex10: a fair amount
[21:57] <ubotu> Respatix_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:57] <jussio1> bnex10: I dont know off the top of my head
[21:57] <bnex10> jussio1: well i don't want to install uneeded stuff
[21:57] <bnex10> unneeded*
[21:58] <jussio1> bnex10: you can just install libxine1-ffmpeg if you prefer
[21:58] <bnex10> ok
[21:58] <bnex10> ok thx
[21:59] <K`zan> Hi Folks, looks like k3b or some component thereof is hosed big time.  Been fighting with this for two days now.  Found the drive was ok using nero under wincrap (no problems).  Is there some other alternative to burn DVDs under linux?  Tarring up what I want and sending it to a wincrap drive to burn with nero is kind of embarrasing :-).  TIA!
[21:59] <jussio1> K`zan: have you tried purging and reinstalling k3b?
[22:02] <jussio1> K`zan: you could also try brasero, though Im not sure of the dvd qualities of it
[22:03] <Respatix_> jussio1: do i type in terminal "sudo apt-get install !ntfs-3g |" ?
[22:03] <jussio1> Respatix_: no
[22:04] <jussio1> Respatix_: did you see the link from the bot?
[22:04] <Armagguedes> hello
[22:04] <jimjag> Hey, I have a problem with the updater. It says it cannot commit changes
[22:04] <jussio1> Respatix_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:04] <Armagguedes> can i get help for kubuntu-hardy from here or is there a dedicated beta channel?
[22:04] <jussio1> jimjag: in gutsy or hardy?
[22:05] <Respatix_> yes, it sounds like ntfs-3g is already included on 7.10 gutsy but i still cant write to my ntfs drive?
[22:05] <jimjag> I'm not sure i Installed gutsy, but it says i can upgrade to gutsy
[22:05] <jussio1> Armagguedes: #ubuntu+1 :)
[22:05] <Armagguedes> ok cheers mate
[22:05] <jussio1> :)
[22:07] <nemetsk> can anyone recommend software for renaming files in bulk/batch ?
[22:07] <jimjag> Is there anything i can type in terminal to find out which version I have
[22:08] <shulman> nemstsk -- thiat might be better suited for a shell script
[22:08] <blackflag> !md5sum
[22:08] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[22:08] <jussio1> !version
[22:08] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:08] <jussio1> jimjag: ^^
[22:09] <jimjag> thanks
[22:09] <fuhreal> Does anyone know if kopote supports msn webcam ?
[22:09] <jussio1> fuhreal: afaik, yes
[22:10] <fuhreal> jussio1: ty .... amsn seems a little buggie
[22:10] <jussio1> not sound though iirc.
[22:10] <blackflag> Hello all :)
[22:10] <graft> ah! pirates!
[22:10] <Roey> arrr!
[22:11] <blackflag> I want to install md5sum but can not find it via aptitude, using kubuntu 7.10
[22:12] <jimjag> hello, I'm on Gutsy and it wants me to update to version 7.10 but then i stops at the actual install part
[22:12] <jussio1> blackflag: is it not installed already?
[22:12] <blackflag> ohh, shit sorry I have it ;)
[22:12] <jussio1> !ohmy | blackflag
[22:12] <ubotu> blackflag: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:12] <graft> yeah, you could instead say 'ohh, shiver me timbers sorry'
[22:13] <blackflag> ok
[22:13] <shulman> I'm having what I believe is a HW problem and I need to order replacement parts. I've been having frequent system freezes. I tried reinstalling kubuntu and ubuntu, and during the graphical install, both completely freeze (including keyboard lock) -- I was able to install ubuntu using the alternate install CD, but it frequently froze while attempting to update the system. Do you think this could be a power problem or a video card
[22:13] <shulman> problem or something else?
[22:14] <graft> shulman: when it freezes, is it a complete system lock?
[22:14] <graft> can you ssh in?
[22:14] <fuhreal> shulman: hows the temp of ur stuff?
[22:14] <graft> a video card fault wouldn't necessarily be indicated by temperature
[22:14] <graft> although that would probably contribute to failure...
[22:14] <fuhreal> graft: however system freezing would
[22:15] <fuhreal> or could
[22:15] <fuhreal> if auto reboot is off
[22:15] <shulman> graft: system temp appears fine (~23C according ot the BIOS) -- it is a complete system lock as far as I can tell. the system stops entirely and nothing is entered into the error logs
[22:15] <fuhreal> 23C wow!!!!
[22:15] <graft> yeah that's pretty damn cool
[22:15] <graft> shulman: is it onboard video? can you pop in a new video card to test?
[22:15] <fuhreal> shulman: graft is saying, if u can ssh in, it could be video issue ...
[22:16] <Armagguedes> to install XP as a virtual machine, which CD do i get: desktop or alternate ??
[22:16] <graft> no, if you can ssh in it's probably not a hardware fault in the video card
[22:16] <graft> if you can ssh in it's probably a software issue
[22:16] <shulman> hrm... that's a good point. I didn't think about that.
[22:16] <fuhreal> shulman: do all the lights on ur keyboard flash?
[22:17] <graft> shulman: also there are probably some memory test apps in the repository
[22:17] <fuhreal> graft: ur thinking bad ram ?
[22:17] <graft> shulman: e.g. memtest86+
[22:17] <graft> yeah
[22:18] <fuhreal> shulman: do u have all the bios set to defaults ?
[22:18] <graft> i'd test that in console mode, just to eliminate that option
[22:18] <shulman> graft:  --  I ran the memory test on the Ubuntu CD with no problems
[22:18] <fuhreal> shulman: will live CD run without a prob, i.e. you can surf and do whatever...
[22:18] <shulman> I do not have the bios set  to the defaults... I set the system up about a year ago. THe reason I was suspecting power problems was because the system is very drive heavy -- I have 6 SATA drives in there.
[22:18] <graft> ahoo.. well then i'd try to test out your video somehow... i'm not familiar with any specific tools for testing video memory and so on
[22:19] <graft> wow
[22:19] <fuhreal> shulman: easy way to find out is to pull one of the drives power.....
[22:19] <fuhreal> shulman: or pull all except 1
[22:19] <shulman> the Live CD GUIs tend to boot up with problems. They'll fritz out on start up but come back. Both did OK until the actuall installation got halfway throgh
[22:20] <artur_> how to uninstall a program that was installed through a .RUN file, so the program isn't in the Synaptic...
[22:20] <graft> hrm... what kind of power failure would you suspect? The only power failures i've had is fans on the power supply failing
[22:20] <fuhreal> artur_: delete the directory where its installed
[22:20] <graft> which, assuming it's not a dell, you can test just by swapping out the power supply
[22:20] <steven_> how do I make the channel list appear on the side in konversation?
[22:21]  * fuhreal should shut up cuz he's a n00b himself :P
[22:21] <toti> Is it just imagination or are these chicks in "Horrormovies" extremly stupid?
[22:21] <artur_> fuhreal: ok, thanks
[22:22] <steven_> toti: They're "script" stupid, if they were smart they wouldn't be almost dead 50 times
[22:22] <fuhreal> toti: Were you yellin "RUN B*#*H RUN!!!" ?
[22:22] <jussi01> !ot
[22:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:22] <shulman> graft: The main reason I was suspecting power supply was because of the fact that it tends to happen when it's writing to a drive (I've switched out the drive, so I'm fairly sure it's not the disk HW)
[22:22] <silverblade> im trying to burn a dvd using k3b and its writing at 0.70x... this has been the case with 2 dvd writers now. whats the problem
[22:23] <graft> shulman: bad cable wiring?
[22:23] <shulman> graft: what do you mean?
[22:23] <fuhreal> sata cable issues suck ..
[22:23] <graft> dunno exactly, never had that particular problem... but, some sort of mechanical failure in your SATA cable
[22:24] <graft> or, worse, on your MB somewhere en route to that SATA connection
[22:24] <shulman> argh... I hate HW.
[22:24] <graft> yeh
[22:24] <fuhreal> shulman: seriously, if you think its a power issue, you should be able to remove devices (HD's /usb) etc to stop draining power
[22:25] <fuhreal> shulman: your bios "may" have a screen showing your voltages as well....
[22:25] <jussio1> !dma | silverblade, possibly an issue with this
[22:25] <ubotu> silverblade, possibly an issue with this: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[22:25] <shulman> fuhreal: I'll try that... I'll pull 5 drives from the power system. Right now I just installed ssh server and I'll start another install to see if the theory holds.
[22:26] <fuhreal> shulman: before you install, check ur voltages in ur bios
[22:26] <silverblade> jussi01, nope, i checked that already
[22:26] <fuhreal> shulman: if they are horribly wrong, then there is no point trying again until u pop in a new power supply .. rght?
[22:26] <shulman> good point. Luckily I have a laptop, or else I'd really be SoL for this :-)
[22:27] <fuhreal> shulman: hehe .... if ur in the US you can pick up a sweet levno R61 or was it t61 shipped for 499 :P
[22:27] <fuhreal> lenovo i meant
[22:28] <graft> probably the R61
[22:28] <graft> i can't imagine a T61 being that cheap
[22:28] <fuhreal> I grabbed this T42 for $250 ... i'm so happy with the purchase ...
[22:28] <fuhreal> yah i feel u on that one
[22:29] <shulman> I'd switch entirely to laptops if it weren't for my storage needs.
[22:30] <jussio1> !ot
[22:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:30] <fuhreal> How do i turn on open gl support? I installed the open gl screensavers from adept but they won't even test
[22:31] <jussio1> fuhreal: you have which gfx card?
[22:32] <fuhreal> jussio1: radeon mobility 9700
[22:33] <ahmos> !java
[22:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[22:33] <jussio1> fuhreal: you have the binary drivers installed?
[22:33] <khbeta> Kopete (0.12.7 on hardy beta) only shows 3 of my MSN contacts (all listed under "Other Contacts").  Any ideas on how i can get all my contacts to display under "online" or "offline"?
[22:33] <fuhreal> jussio1: no the propriatary
[22:34] <jussio1> fuhreal: proprietary=binary :)
[22:34] <fuhreal> jussio1: oops :P
[22:34] <jussio1> khbeta: setting -> show offline users
[22:35] <khbeta> jussio1: it just shows or hides those three contacts, unfortunately.  All three of them are offline (confirmed under windows)
[22:35] <benbread> khbeta: or ctrl + U
[22:36] <shulman> voltage appears OK (12.9V going to the CPU...) crash during the latest kubuntu install did kill ssh as well.
[22:36] <fuhreal> jussio1: no ideas ?
[22:37] <khbeta> benbread: ctrl+u also just hides the three contacts; there are dozens that should be on the list that don't show up anywhere
[22:37] <jussio1> fuhreal: yes, when you installed, did you follow the tutorial or just install the driver from the manager?
[22:37] <benbread> khbeta: Do you have Pidgin?
[22:37] <benbread> khbeta: IMO it's a lot better than kopete
[22:38] <theo_> 2 questions: 1. at what time of the day/night is doning Keep its backup // 2. Is Keep still the default user backup-app in Hardy or is it replaced???!
[22:38] <khbeta> benbread: i dont have it, prefer to avoid gnome stuff where possible.  didn't want to use kmess either because it lacks webcam support as far as i know
[22:39] <benbread> khbeta: It's not gnome
[22:39] <jeroen-> sorry I had the wrong name: again:
[22:39] <fuhreal> jussio1: just installed from the system manager
[22:39] <jeroen-> 2 questions: 1. at what time of the day/night is doning Keep its backup // 2. Is Keep still the default user backup-app in Hardy or is it replaced???!
[22:39] <jussio1> !ati | fuhreal have a look here :)
[22:39] <ubotu> fuhreal have a look here :): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:40] <jussio1> !repeat | jeroen-
[22:40] <ubotu> jeroen-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:40] <khbeta> benbread: apt seems to want to install a lot of gtk and gnome-style dependencies if i try to install pidgin.  i may be doing something wrong, i'm still very new at this
[22:41] <jeroen-> jussio1: I know, but I changed my name or else I won't find the answer
[22:42] <benbread> khbeta: Failing that if you're just using MSN messenger i'd go with aMSN, it has webcam, custom emoticons, plugins, games, drawing and all sorts - considerably better than both pidgin and kopete
[22:43] <khbeta> benbread: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[22:45] <fuhreal> jussio1: the openGl screensavers that came during the gutsy install work, just the others don't
[22:45] <jussio1> fuhreal: ahh, not sure then. sorry :(
[22:46] <vince__> Hey All,  Quick question.  I have 2 soundcards installed in my Kubuntu system.  When I first set everything up it worked fine with my Skype calls going to my headset and my system sounds going to the main speaker.  When I restarted however it seems to have messed it all up and now everything comes out from the headset.  I've tried looking at the Also Documentation on the WIKI and also checked allmighty google but I can't seem
[22:46] <vince__> to find a clear explination on how to make this stuff stick.  Anyone here that can help?
[22:48] <benbread> vince__: I have exactly the same problem on one of my other machines, so far all i've worked out is you can run alsaconf just to set up the soundcard you want on each boot
[22:48] <tin> vince__: you should be able to direct the system sounds to any sound device in the sound system settings area
[22:49] <tin> and check the system services, there is a script that should run on boot to reset volume levels and such
[22:49] <tin> perhaps it's not running, or it is and doesn't know about multiple sound devices
[22:49] <vince__> tin: The only thing I can find is Sound Devices but all it tells me is ASLA, OSS , NO IN OUT etc
[22:50] <vince__> I can't find anywhere where I can specify a specific device
[22:50] <tin> maybe the override device selection box
[22:50] <tin> device location*
[22:50] <vince__> tin: Right but what do I type in there?
[22:51] <vince__> benbread: I tried to run alsaconf and got a command not found error
[22:52] <benbread> as root
[22:52] <tin> try 'alsactl names'
[22:52] <pucko-> vince__, I've had problems like that when upgrading alsa for example.. I assume you set the sound in skype somewhere, and just need to change the default-sound-card for kde.
[22:52] <vince__> Pucko: Yes sir
[22:52] <vince__> benbread: No joy
[22:53] <tin> pucko-: yeah, problem is that the sound system control panel doesn't know much about alsa, and so doesn't enumerate the devices for you
[22:53] <pucko-> vince__, asoundconf list
[22:53] <tin> ^^
[22:53] <benbread> vince__: That's very weird - sudo apt-get install alsaconf ?
[22:53] <pucko-> vince__, then asoundconf set-default-card <whatever>
[22:53] <vince__> Ok
[22:53] <tin> i knew there was a command to find the names
[22:53] <vince__> Says it has nForce2 UART au8830
[22:53] <vince__> nForce is the card my headset goes too
[22:53] <vince__> au8830 I think is the main card
[22:54] <vince__> dunno what UART is
[22:54] <tin> Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter IIRC
[22:54] <tin> it's the MIDI port most likely
[22:54] <pucko-> doesn't hurt to try. I assume the settings will stick after rebooting, at least for your user. but you might want to read the manpage...
[22:54] <vince__> benbread : couln't find package alsaconf
[22:56] <vince__> Ok Picky I popped that command in
[22:56] <tin> i think alsaconf is in alsa-utils or such, but asoundconf should do the trick and it's past of the base alsa
[22:56] <vince__> Sound is still comming out my headset
[22:56] <vince__> oh wait
[22:56] <vince__> Duh Might help if I told it to use the other sound card LOL
[22:57] <vince__> Still no joy
[22:57] <tin> au8830, that's an oldish card eh? Aureal VortexOrSomething
[22:57] <vince__> tin: Yea... It was working fine before the reboot though
[22:57] <vince__> might I need to reset the sound server?
[22:57] <vlt> Hello. What package do I need to install to enable mounting an nfs share?
[22:57] <tin> so the headset is plugged to the mainboard's onboard plug, and the speakers or on the add-on card
[22:58] <vince__> tin Correct..
[22:58] <tin> vince__: yeah, you might try restarting artsd
[22:58] <vince__> Ok I know this sounds dumb, How do I do that from CLI
[22:58] <vince__> ?
[22:59] <pucko-> vince__, perhaps you could try sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart
[23:00] <ahmos> !java
[23:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[23:01] <vince__> pucko: Done sound still comming from the wrong card
[23:02] <pucko-> oh :/
[23:03] <pucko-> i'd think that should do it. hate to say it, but try rebooting :)
[23:04] <vince__> I don't understand why I can't just go to a system config and select what card I want... The mixer lets me pick between the two
[23:04] <vince__> I love Linux but stuff like this just really puts me off
[23:04] <vince__> alright i'll try rebooting and BRB to let you know what happens :-)
[23:04] <pucko-> me too.
[23:05] <tin> vince__: you may have to restart artsd to get kde's sound system...
[23:05] <tin> nm
[23:05] <pucko-> oh, yeah. i figured he'd try that already
[23:05] <pucko-> tried
[23:09] <vince__> And Back
[23:09] <vince__> All seems good now
[23:09] <vince__> Skypes going out the headset and system junks going out the mains.
[23:09] <pucko-> all good then :)
[23:10] <tin> vince__: good work!
[23:10] <vince__> I wonder why it required a whole system restart though, I woulda figured reloading the sound server woulda realoaded the configs... But oh well.. Can't argue with success LOL
[23:10] <tin> i think you just needed to restart artsd, which a reboot did
[23:10] <vince__> Thanks for your help
[23:10] <pucko-> probably
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> vince__: you the guy I was helping earlier with pclinuxOS?
[23:11] <tin> you reloaded alsa, for the system, but kde runs its own sound server called arts
[23:11] <vince__> norednaekim: Nope... I was in here earlier trying to get a LAMP dev enviorment install but thats it
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> ah, ok ... nother guy called vince;)
[23:11] <vince__> tin: Ahhh that woulda prolly been it thenb
[23:12] <silverblade> ok it seems amarok and kaffeine both cannot play .wav
[23:12] <silverblade> they hang when i try to
[23:12] <tin> thing is, i don't see an easy way to restart artsd being manually sending it a HUP signal or logging off and back
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: fixed your X problem?
[23:13] <silverblade> yep.
[23:13] <vince__> tin: That maybe so but its not any more agrivating than requiring a windows reboot.  Im more irked about the lack of a GUI interface for this kinda thing
[23:13] <silverblade> nvidia driver issue
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> tin: you can restart it in system settings
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: what was the problem?
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> ah
[23:13] <silverblade> i had to upgrade nvidia driver and disable xinerama
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> there was a bug?
[23:13] <silverblade> think so
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: alright, now, for this wav... you sure its good? i.e. does it play elsewhere?
[23:14] <silverblade> ive not had wave playing on linux for a couple of years now
[23:14] <silverblade> both on Gentoo and Kubuntu
[23:15] <silverblade> XMMS didnt work, Amarok and Kaffeine both hang
[23:15] <silverblade> mp3s play fine
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> .wav's have allways worked... are you sure they are good .wav's?
[23:15] <silverblade> definitely.
[23:15] <pucko-> what soundcard?
[23:15] <tin> vince__: yeah, kde's current sound system is a bit dated
[23:16] <silverblade> they play fine in Media Player on Windows, and on my portable media player.
[23:16] <tin> but kde4's phonon system sounds very excellent
[23:16] <silverblade> onboard nvidia nforce chipset one, not sure
[23:16] <ere4si> I can add a second panel but it doesn't show up in the configure panel window - how can I get to use it?
[23:16] <silverblade> and theyre wavs ive created mp3s from
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> ere4si: you need to restart kicker, run "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> ere4si: or just log out and back in
[23:18] <ere4si> ohh - thnx nosrednaekim :)
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> silverblade: thats very weird.... what about trying to create your own wav and playing it?
[23:19] <silverblade> i create my own wavs.
[23:19] <silverblade> thats what im saying.
[23:19] <silverblade> i record a wav, i save it, i cant play it on Linux
[23:19] <silverblade> no wavs at all.
[23:19] <silverblade> regardless of where they have come from
[23:20] <silverblade> they all hang Amarok, Kaffeine and XMMS
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> how do you record them?
[23:20] <silverblade> theyre usually either exported from a music program in Windows, recorded using Audacity, or recorded on a portable audio recorder.
[23:22] <silverblade> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625518   - this person seems to have had similar problem
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> wow.... could you DCC a small one to me (<1MB)
[23:23] <pucko-> me too :)
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> hum, what we need is a nice command line player and see what the gives as errors...
[23:24] <vlt> vlt: You need nfs-common to be installed for mounting NFS shares.
[23:24] <silverblade> i dont have any small ones
[23:24] <silverblade> "playsound" works from command line.
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> and it PLAYS them?
[23:25] <silverblade> yep
[23:25] <silverblade> no problem
[23:25] <silverblade> or at least it did in gentoo, i cant find the package i need for ubuntu
[23:25] <TD-Linux> AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
[23:25] <vlt> Hello. How long do I have to wait before Konqueror shows me the actual content of /mnt/some-nfs-share when something has changed in that folder?
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> very weird....
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> BBL....
[23:26] <TD-Linux> ^^ explanation: I just noticed that strigi's index is 10GB
[23:26] <TD-Linux> this is a 60GB partition
[23:26] <silverblade> rm :D
[23:26] <TD-Linux> yup
[23:26] <TD-Linux> strigi goes bye-bye as well
[23:26] <flipstar> cmus is a nice cli player mplayer works also on cli
[23:27] <vlt> Can I define Konqueror's refresh interval for nfs shares somewhere?
[23:28] <silverblade> ...ok xmms works
[23:28] <vince__> Does anyone know of a good GUI front end for MySQL?  I used HeidiSQL on windows and was hoping for something simmilar.
[23:28] <vlt> To be more correct: Can I define Konqueror's refresh interval for *mounted* nfs shares somewhere?
[23:32] <WeaponX> where is menu.lst located?
[23:32] <TD-Linux> WeaponX, /boot
[23:32] <WeaponX> oh crap
[23:32] <WeaponX> sorry
[23:32] <WeaponX> wrong cahnnel
[23:32] <WeaponX> i wanted to ask in windows
[23:33] <WeaponX> sorry
[23:33] <silverblade> windows has one? O_o
[23:33] <WeaponX> i dont know, apperently grub bootloader installs one
[23:33] <WeaponX> and grub comes default with kubuntu install right
[23:33] <WeaponX> ?
[23:36] <TD-Linux> WeaponX, yeah, but the file is stored on kubuntu partition
[23:39] <k7> hello
[23:42] <osiris> any idea why xmms randomly goes beserk and makes all sounds fast forwarded /
[23:42] <osiris> all sounds play fast now, even kde system sounds
[23:42] <paule118> hi
[23:43] <osiris> it takes a reboot to cure this
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[23:45] <silverblade> ???
[23:48] <asobi> have opened ports in router, set corresponding ports under settings -> file transfers and still unable to receive dcc. i guess i need to open ports in firewall as well. how do i do that in guarddog?
[23:48] <myrtille> !de
[23:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:49] <ahmos> hi ,i've a problem..if i leave my computer turned on with out using it for about 1 hour,it hangs..mouse courser is moving but nothing responds..any ideas?!plz..
[23:50] <graft> ahmos: something hogging memory?
[23:50] <ahmos> i think not the memmory but the processor
[23:51] <graft> top is your best friend, bub
[23:51] <ahmos> top?!
[23:51] <graft> you dunno top? just type top in a shell, it's self explanatory
[23:53] <ahmos> yes,but i don't know what hangs the computer when it hangs because it don't responde to open the shell
[23:53] <ahmos> the only thing that i can do ALT+Ctrl+backspace
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[23:55] <silverblade> !de
[23:55] <ahmos> graft: i don't know how it will be usefull?
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