[00:40] <epi-> hi. what's the right way to report printing bug in 8.04 beta?
[00:43] <epi-> there's no sensible info in /var/log/cups/error_log
[02:42] <druke> ok I'm new to the bug team, does something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/205378 , go straight to wishlist?
[02:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205378 in transmission "Transmission should have a tooltip over the notification icon showing global Up/Down-Speed" [Undecided,New]
[02:50] <Nattgew> yeah, I think so...
[02:57] <persia> Definitely.
[02:58] <druke> I'm unsure of how to file it as such then
[02:59] <persia> druke: According to the upstream bug, it's fixed in r4704.  I'd set it "Triaged" and "Wishlist".
[03:00]  * greg-g nods
[03:00] <persia> Err.  Nevermind.  It needs a new upstream bug: that bug was to have a different tooltip.
[03:00] <persia> So, set "Confirmed" (as long as you don't see the data), "Wishlist", and update the upstream tracker to point to the correct enhancement request (possibly a new one)
[03:00] <greg-g> the one linked in LP is a dupe of one that works though: http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/616
[03:01] <druke> Where in the wiki is the documentation on howto do all that in launchpad (there are like a million wiki pages on this topic)
[03:01] <greg-g> (last comment in the upstream bug report)
[03:01]  * persia looks at the r4704 changes harder
[03:01] <persia> greg-g: Thanks.
[03:02] <persia> druke: Yep.  "Triaged" or "Fix Released" (depending on whether r4704 is in the repos), and "Wishlist".
[03:02] <greg-g> np
[03:03] <druke> ah I see I'm jsut not allowed to set importance
[03:03] <greg-g> appears it will be in 1.10, so not in the repos yet
[03:03] <persia> druke: Click on one of the little arrows next to "New", and you can get it.
[03:03] <greg-g> druke: correct, one of us will do it for you
[03:03] <druke> I confirmed it
[03:03] <persia> druke: Ah.  I'll set it for you now then.
[03:03] <greg-g> you are always welcome to come in here and ask somoene to set importances for you
[03:03] <persia> druke: Could you also update the upstream bug tracker to point at #616?
[03:04] <greg-g> just fyi
[03:04] <druke> thanks greg-g , and persia ; It'llt ake me a second to figure that out but I'll do it
[03:07] <druke> do I just change the 'assigned to' from transmission trac #381 to the url of the new one
[03:07] <persia> druke: If you click the expansion icon for the upstream task, you'll be given the option of entering a URL for the correct upstream bug.
[03:08] <druke> persia, Ok I think I did it correct :D
[03:09] <persia> druke: Works for me.  Thanks.  Time for the next bug :)
[03:09] <druke> indeed
[04:15] <druke> bug #205406 should liely be made a wishlist, its requesting weather applet's details page to be a gtk normal, instead of a gtk dialog.
[04:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205406 in gnome-applets "Weather applet won't minimize on window list click" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205406
[04:16] <druke> likely*
[04:17] <persia> druke: adjusted
[05:44] <druke> bug #205405 and bug #199287 allude to the same thing but a newer (just filed) bug #205418 better adresses the whole issue, should I file the first two as dupes of the new one (even though they are older)
[05:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205405 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu Live CD Beta v8.04 - "Connection preferences" reports a missing shared library" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205405
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199287 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "File Associations Settings Module Broken Under KDE4 (Hardy)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199287
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205418 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "many libraries and programs in KDE4 missing - should include the metapackage "kde4" as dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205418
[06:00] <persia> druke: The liveCD is a somewhat special case.  Rather than using the desktop metapackage, there is typically a separate seed for what gets shipped on the CD.  Given the lack of direct response from a Kubuntu person here, you might check to see if anyone on #kubuntu-devel is aware of the issue, and how they would find it most helpful to have the bugs triaged.
[06:01] <persia> Also, if you use the special text "bug #205405" in a bug comment, launchpad will convert it to a hyperlink to the referenced bug report (this works for any bug number, not just 205405).
[06:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205405 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu Live CD Beta v8.04 - "Connection preferences" reports a missing shared library (dup-of: 205418)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205405
[06:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205418 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "many libraries and programs in KDE4 missing - should include the metapackage "kde4" as dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205418
[06:03] <druke> id on't suppose one can edit comments eh?
[06:04] <druke> i don't*
[06:06] <persia> Nope.
[06:06] <persia> Next time though :)
[08:21] <Iulian> G'morning
[09:34] <Shubo> can someone validate my work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/205221? i'm new to triaging and i really want some feedback about it
[09:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205221 in ubuntu "power off after hibernate does not work" [Undecided,New]
[09:50] <Knightlust> bug #205071
[09:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205071 in ubuntu "[Hardy] unable to connect using wireless after update of 21/03" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205071
[09:56] <Shubo> i worked on bug #205071 too
[09:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205071 in ubuntu "[Hardy] unable to connect using wireless after update of 21/03" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205071
[10:31] <afflux> morning :)
[10:46] <Iulian> Hey afflux
[11:07]  * afflux hits the 5-a-day stats page
[11:07] <afflux> it didn't count my last 40 bugs :(
[12:04] <gggggig> hi
[12:32] <gggggig> iuuu uu?
[12:36] <jeromeg> hello
[12:41] <gggggig> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-actions/+bug/186141
[12:41] <gggggig> Is possible to fix this bug? Is just a folder to rename..
[12:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186141 in nautilus-actions "missing nautilus-actions menu entries" [Low,Confirmed]
[12:43] <jeromeg> gggggig: well it has to be fixed upstream
[12:43] <jeromeg> this is not an ubuntu problem
[12:44] <afflux> jeromeg: it seems like it is.
[12:44] <afflux> debian/rules says "DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --with-nautilus-extdir=/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/", this should propably be "-2.0"
[12:45] <gggggig> currently nautlius-action in hardy is simply trash..
[12:45] <gggggig> it does anything
[12:45] <afflux> gggggig: yes, we got it. Thanks for helping.
[12:45] <jeromeg> afflux: mmm, i thought it was a gvfs problem i'll give it a shot
[12:45] <afflux> jeromeg: looking at the bug reported it is installed at the wrong place
[12:46] <jeromeg> afflux: ok, i'll try to build a new package with your fix
[12:46] <afflux> jeromeg: are you a motu?
[12:46] <jeromeg> gggggig: could you test it if I provide you a package ?
[12:46] <gggggig> it just a problem with names.. extensions-2.0/ instead of 1.0
[12:46] <gggggig> jeromeg: yes
[12:46] <jeromeg> afflux: no but i can still build a package with my ppa :)
[12:46] <afflux> jeromeg: I can do so too.
[12:46] <jeromeg> gggggig: what arch are you running ?
[12:46] <jeromeg> afflux: ok, go for it if you want, no problem :)
[12:46] <gggggig> jeromeg: hardy x86
[12:47] <afflux> jeromeg: thanks :)
[12:47] <jeromeg> o problem :)
[12:47] <jeromeg> afflux: thank you for your help
[12:47] <gggggig> jeromeg: I'm already using nautilus-action with that folder renamed
[12:47] <jeromeg> gggggig: and it still does nothing ?
[12:47] <gggggig> jeromeg: no it works perfectly
[12:48] <jeromeg> gggggig: oh great then, it should be an easy fix
[12:48] <gggggig> jeromeg: it's just for the other users
[12:48] <afflux> gggggig: yes, we're working on it. thanks for your work.
[12:48] <jeromeg> gggggig: of course, such a workaround is really bad
[12:49] <afflux> uploaded to https://edge.launchpad.net/~afflux/+archive, waiting for the buildds. Going to lunch now, cya later
[12:49] <gggggig> jeromeg: the original authour doesn't maintein nact anymore
[12:49] <jeromeg> afflux: see you
[12:49] <jeromeg> gggggig: yep, but in that case it's a packaging problem
[12:50] <jeromeg> something has not been updated with the new version
[12:50] <gggggig> jeromeg: but He is looking for a new mainteiner, for now this fix is enought
[12:52] <gggggig> jeromeg: is possible to have a fixed version of nact before Hardy release?
[12:52] <jeromeg> gggggig: if it's only this little problem of packaging, i think it will be accepted into hardy
[12:53] <gggggig> jeromeg: yes
[13:01] <gggggig> afflux: thanks for committing the fix
[13:28] <afflux> gggggig: the fix for your problem will be available in hardy soon.
[13:30] <gggggig> afflux: I've tried the deb from your rep and it works
[13:31] <afflux> gggggig: perfect, thank you. The fix will be reviewed from the motus and eventually uploaded into hardy.
[14:11] <catterly> hello everyone, what can I do to push this bug up the priority queue, as it seems pretty critical to me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/193617
[14:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193617 in gnome-power-manager "Hardy rhythmbox stops screen from blanking on laptop lid close" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:12] <catterly> I am on BugSquad so I was able to confirm it but as I just applied to BugControl I can't do much more, I don't think.
[14:19] <greg-g> catterly: I'll set the importance for you
[14:19] <greg-g> I'm unsure whether it should be a g-p-m or rhythmbox bug though
[14:19] <greg-g> I'm actually leaning towards rhythmbox
[14:21] <persia> I'd be careful about trying to fix that bug.  From what I understand, when the screen blanks, it starts the sleep timer, which can be annoying for someone listening to music with a lid closed.  From what I understand, the power systems don't identify audio tracking well enough to be sane yet.
[14:21] <catterly> greg-g: yeah, I don't understand if rhythmbox is rejecting the request, or g-p-m has some list of things to auto reject
[14:22] <greg-g> persia: ahh yes, good point
[14:22] <catterly> persia: well the more important issue is the second part which the op mentions and I commented on, how you can't shut down the computer
[14:22] <catterly> which is incredibly important
[14:23] <catterly> maybe it should be split into two bugs, one for screen blanking and one for shutdown/restart requests via a power button etc?
[14:23] <greg-g> yeah, the only reason I set it to High was because this could theoretically effect all laptop users
[14:23] <catterly> yeah High is what I would have gone for
[14:23] <persia> catterly: Hmmm...  I'm not sure which use case (turning off without closing rhythmbox or listening to music with the lid closed) should win in this case.
[14:24] <catterly> persia: you could still listen to music with the lid closed, if you have the lid close option set to none. if you don't, then it is doing what you asked
[14:25] <catterly> persia: on the other hand, it is really annoying to shut down/restart/hibernate/suspend/logoff
[14:25] <greg-g> persia: could you comment on that bug with your concerns?  Just "for the record" so someone doesn't overlook that possibility.
[14:26] <persia> catterly: Good point.  My ideal behaviour isn't possible (allowing screen blank but not sleep with audio output), so either seems a reasonable alternative.
[14:27] <persia> greg-g: catterly has just convinced me that it's not ideal to block it.  I'll pursue my use case with a future interaction.  It shouldn't be rythmbox-specific anyway.
[14:28] <greg-g> persia: ok
[14:32] <catterly> persia: so are you using if I have my lid close option set to "blank screen" and also set to never sleep on inactivity, this sleep timer still occurs
[14:33] <catterly> persia: I am just confused because I listen to music with the lid closed all the time without issue
[14:33] <persia> catterly: I think you're right.  I may be confused by something else.
[14:33] <catterly> but maybe you are thinking some people have it set to sleep after a period of inactivity, and a lid close would trigger that start of inactivity, but you wouldn't want music playing to count as inactivity?
[14:34] <catterly> I guess I can see validity there though how to manage that, I have no idea other than through some additional option or exceptions made available to the user
[14:35] <persia> catterly: That's what I want, but it appears the hack to make that work with rythmbox breaks other things too badly.  Better to wait until the audio system can communicate with the power system, so it also works for other music players.
[14:39] <catterly> by the way has anyone noticed tab completion in apt-get/aptitude for install/remove appears not to work? I couldn't find a bug anywhere so I am wondering if it is just me
[14:42] <persia> catterly: I think bash-completion is disabled by default.  Are you sure it's turned on for your user?
[14:43] <greg-g> I've seen a bug talking about that recently....
[14:44] <catterly> persia: well I can tab-complete normal commands
[14:44] <catterly> and filenames, etc
[14:44] <catterly> I don't know if that is something different?
[14:45] <persia> That would be the internal completion from bash itself, rather than the hinting.
[14:46] <persia> catterly: Check your /etc/bashrc and ~/.bashrc.  If neither of them has the strong ". /etc/bash_completion" or "source /etc/bash_completion", read /usr/share/doc/bash_completion/README.gz
[14:46] <catterly> so did something change from Gutsy->Hardy in regards to this?
[14:47] <persia> I think so.  I believe there was some juggling to get all the completion code in the same place, which might affect a standard install.
[14:48] <catterly> persia: oh okay, do you know if it is a bug or a feature? as in should I have to specifically do something to get it to work, was that the decision, or is something just wrong
[14:49] <persia> I think it is considered a feature.  I'll see if I can find a reference.
[14:54] <persia> The only thing I'm finding is the thread starting https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-October/001939.html, but there may have been a policy decision in Debian
[16:44] <druke> anyone able to confirm Bug #205599 , or bug #205568. I think they're the same bug but it doesn't happen on my system
[16:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205599 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox crashes on Xbox.com's Friends List" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205599
[16:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205568 in firefox "firefox 3 beta crashes accessing web page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205568
[16:47] <charle2> druke: the second one loads just fine for me
[16:47] <druke> right'o then I imagine they're related ( or at least identical)
[16:48] <charle2> druke: the first one gives an "live.xbox.com:443 uses an invalid security certificate" alert
[16:48] <charle2> but otherwise seems fine
[16:50] <druke> ah I see, well then perhaps your in the same boat as myself where they both 'work'
[16:50] <druke> gonna see if I get a different reaction in 32 bit.
[16:51] <charle2> I am on 32bit, fyi
[16:51] <druke> ah hrmm
[17:12] <sroecker> which program sets permissions for /dev/bus/usb ?
[17:14] <james_w> sroecker: udev probably, what problems are you seeing?
[17:15] <sroecker> james_w, I can't access my usb camera anymore
[17:15] <sroecker> #189506
[17:16] <Tuv0k> bug #189506
[17:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 189506 in gphoto2 "Normal user can't access USB camera Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189506
[17:16] <sroecker> all usb devices are in the root group instead of plugdev
[17:16] <sroecker> thx, Tuv0k
[17:16] <Tuv0k> ;)
[17:57] <charle2> greg-g: I see you marked bug #205610 a dup, but is it also a dup of the bug we were previously discussing bug #193617? it seems to me that they are all the same
[17:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205610 in rhythmbox "Rhythmbox prevents sleep (dup-of: 78038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205610
[17:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78038 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox interferes with suspend" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78038
[17:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193617 in gnome-power-manager "Hardy rhythmbox stops screen from blanking on laptop lid close" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193617
[17:58] <greg-g> yeah, they are similar (78038 and 193617) but I'm not certain if they are the same
[18:04] <greg-g> charle2: I am just uncertain, I am of course open to discussion about it, in fact, if others would give their opinion that would be great.  Unfrotunately, right now I must try to ignore the bugs for the day and get some other work done.
[18:06] <charle2> greg-g: I don't know if the cause is the same, but in the bug I referenced the person also mentions the issue of not being able to shutdown, etc, so that is why I suggested it
[18:07] <charle2> either way would you mind, if you agree, bumping the importance of bug #78038 to High as with the other bug, which is the real issue I was referring to
[18:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78038 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox interferes with suspend" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78038
[18:07] <charle2> I commented on that as well explaining my logic
[18:08] <charle2> if they are going to be separate bugs perhaps the other should be Medium and this should be High, or merged as one High
[18:13] <catterly> hmm, they both have the exact same pop up error message, "Request to do policy action-- Music Player has stopped the policy action from taking place: Playing." that seems to indicate to me they are the same issue. I will look into this some more later
[18:15] <greg-g> catterly: yeah, that makes sense.  The only confusing bit now is that in a comment from february of 2007 a developer of g-p-m said the issue was fixed in their dev. version (ie: should be fixed in the next release after Feb. 2007).
[18:16] <greg-g> a comment from the upstream bug report linked to from 78038
[18:24] <catterly> yeah I am making a somewhat long-winded comment in #193617
[18:25] <catterly> greg-g: okay I just left it, would you let me know if you agree with it when you have a minute
[18:27] <greg-g> catterly: I agree (yeah, I'm bad at ignoring bug issues ;) )
[18:35] <catterly> greg-g: haha, well thanks, now get back to work!
[18:38] <greg-g> catterly: :)
[18:38] <JohnPhy1> I could use some help debugging a program/system crash caused in inkscape.  I can reliably reproduce the crash, but would like to know what information is needed (and what steps to take) to inform the devs.
[18:39] <james_w> JohnPhy1: if you can get a backtrace it would help a lot.
[18:39] <james_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[18:39] <james_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[18:40] <JohnPhy1> I followed the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace , but unfortunately I was dumb and didn't install the debugging-symbols for inkscape, and now my systems seems to have completely hung up (I can't find a way to exit gdb)
[18:40] <JohnPhy1> should i just kill the gdb process, install the debugging symbols, and try again?
[18:41] <james_w> sounds good to me
[18:42] <greg-g> JohnPhy1: if you can't get that working, look in the /var/crash directory and see if there is a .crash file with the name of inkscape in it
[18:42] <james_w> CTRL-D should exit gdb
[18:42] <JohnPhy1> I just killed it
[18:42] <JohnPhy1> I couldn't click on the terminal that had gdb running
[18:42] <JohnPhy1> it's a crazy crash
[18:43] <JohnPhy1> is there an apt-key for the debugging symbol reps?
[18:46] <persia> ddebs.ubuntu.com
[18:47] <JohnPhy1> Maybe I asked the wrong question, apt throws an authentication warning when installing packages from ddebs.ubuntu.com, is there a gpg-key to install so the packages can be authenticated?
[18:50] <persia> It used to be pitti's key, but I can't find the wiki page anymore (and the repo location changed since it was that key).
[18:50] <JohnPhy1> ok, thanks
[18:51] <JohnPhy1> so I installed the dbgsym packages for what I thought were the relevant programs, and ran the gdb, but I'm still going to have to kill the program manually
[18:54] <JohnPhy1> should I file the bug against the launchpad tracker for the inkscape project, or for ubuntu hardy?
[18:54] <JohnPhy1> both?
[19:03] <catterly> JohnPhy1: I think it is typically done as both, but I am not positive, I would wait for someone else to chime in
[19:08] <JohnPhy1> ok
[19:13] <JohnPhy1> I'm not sure if anyone is familiar with this, but I seem to have encountered 2 bugs:  LaTeX equations will not render in inkscape (running latest hardy), though ps2edit seems to complete fine.  This seems related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168977 .  If I happen to try using the 3d box tool after that, the entire program crashes, and I don't see any bugs related to that.  Using the 3d box tool without usi
[19:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 168977 in inkscape "LaTeX formula effect not functional" [Medium,Incomplete]
[19:16] <askand> Hi, I think #63352 should be given a higher priority
[19:17] <afflux> bug 63352
[19:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 63352 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63352
[19:19] <afflux> askand: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:19] <askand> afflux: writing this from hardy daily build
[19:19] <afflux> askand: so hardy doesn't work? are you using kernel 2.6.24-12?
[19:20] <askand>  afflux: yes 2.6.24-12-generic
[19:21] <JohnPhy1> Is anyone in here having issues iwth how fonts are rendered on an lcd in gnome terminal or qt apps?
[19:21] <JohnPhy1> on hardy
[19:22] <askand> afflux: aplay -l gives me "aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found..."
[19:24] <afflux> askand: I'm not sure about the importancy, but the affected package is definetly wrong
[19:24] <afflux> I'll fix this
[19:24] <afflux> well, I will not fix the problem, but I'll change the bugreport ;)
[19:24] <askand> afflux: thanks :) need any more info?
[19:25] <afflux> askand: In case someone requests more information, please subscribe to this bug
[19:25] <JohnPhy1> my fonts in gnome-terminal and qt apps (kile, kopete) don't seem to obey the subpixel hinting settings set in System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts
[19:25] <askand> afflux: will do
[19:25] <afflux> askand: thanks
[19:27] <afflux> askand: maybe you should attach lspci-vvnn.log which is generated with the following command: "sudo lspci -vvnn > lspci-vvnn.log", but I'm not good at kernel triaging :)
[19:28] <askand> afflux: ok will do that
[19:28] <afflux> askand: thank you
[19:35] <askand> afflux: Hm i pushed something and somehow the old kernel came back in the report..
[19:35] <catterly> JohnPhy1: you didn't /just/ change it did you? apps need a restart to be affected by that I believe
[19:36] <afflux> askand: right, just closed the task
[19:41] <askand> afflux: thanks :)
[19:42] <askand> can someone assign bug 196021?
[19:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196021 in bash "include bash-completion by default in hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196021
[19:46] <JohnPhy1> catterly:  they're not affected even after a reboot, and the bar (with the applications menu and clock and such) seems to reflect the changes immediately
[19:47] <JohnPhy1> catterly:  I should add that other apps, such as gedit, pidgin, etc. reflect the changes nicely
[19:53] <askand> Hm openoffice splashscreen shows 2.3 in hardy even if it is 2.4, is that a known bug?
[19:53] <ScottK2> askand: I'm fairly sure it is.